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I WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS, UH, CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION.
IT'S NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
WE ARE MEETING IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED IN CITY HALL, WHICH IS 3 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET MEMBERS.
THE, UH, THE WAY WE'RE GONNA PROCEED BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER, WELL, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE HAVE PRESENT AND BECAUSE OF WHO SPONSORS WHAT AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, WHAT WE WILL DO TODAY IS WE WILL TAKE UP THE THREE BRIEF, UH, THE TWO BRIEFINGS, B TWO AND B THREE.
WE WILL NOT BE TAKING UP B ONE UNTIL PROBABLY THURSDAY.
WE WILL TAKE THAT ON THURSDAY.
UM, I'M BEING REMINDED WE'RE NOT POSTED.
SO IT'LL BE POSTPONED, UH, PROB PROBABLY AFTER THANKSGIVING, B TWO AND B THREE, WE WILL TAKE UP THOSE BRIEFINGS.
WE WILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON E ONE, E TWO AND E THREE, BUT WE WILL NOT HAVE THE OTHER E FOUR AND E FIVE UNTIL EE FOUR WILL BE AT A LATER POINT IN TIME TO COINCIDE WITH B WITH THE B ONE.
AND, UM, E FIVE WILL WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL, UM, ANOTHER POINT IN TIME.
MAYOR, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHICH ITEM IS POSTPONED TO NOVEMBER 30TH? YEAH, BECAUSE THAT WAS A VERY UNCLEAR STATEMENT.
THANK YOU FOR
LET ME, LET ME TRY TO START OVER.
AND, AND BY THE WAY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME TO TUESDAY, UM,
AND IF YOU'RE IN THE, IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY HALL, UM, YOU CAN VOTE IN CITY HALL.
LEMME START OVER ON THE AGENDA.
WE WILL, WE ARE POSTPONING ITEM B ONE'S BRIEFING.
WE WILL HEAR B TWO AND B THREE.
WE WILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON E ONE, E TWO AND E THREE, BUT WE ARE POSTPONING E FOUR AND E FIVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTES, CAN I GET CLARIFICATION AS TO WHY WE ARE POSTPONING B ONE AND E FOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION TOPIC ON PROP A? YES.
UM, WELL, I'LL LET THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY COMMENT ON THAT.
MAYOR, I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO THEM ON THURSDAY.
AND, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE GONE.
NOW THAT I'VE COMPLETELY CONFUSED ALL THAT, WE'LL KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND SEE IF, IF WE CAN CONFUSE THE REST OF THE DAY.
[B2. Briefing on I-35 Cap and Stitch project.]
WILL CALL UP, UH, THE PARTIES THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE US THE BRIEFING ON B ITEM B TWO, WHICH IS THE BRIEFING ON THE I 35 CAPTAIN STITCH PROJECT.WHILE, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, UM, TO GET THAT, AND, AND SINCE WE'RE STARTING ON A, A TECH STOP MATTER, I MIGHT JUST MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS QUICKLY.
UM, AND I'M SURE MR. GOODE'S GOING TO MENTION THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL WILL RECALL IS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT OF, UH, AND, AND AT THE REQUEST OF, UH, SEVERAL PROMINENT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE CONCEPT OF BEING ABLE TO CAP AT 11TH AND 12TH STREET.
AND I'LL POINT OUT THAT, UH, TDOT WORKING, DOING THEIR ENGINEERING, THAT THEY HAVE, UH, DETERMINED THAT WE CAN IN FACT AND WILL
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IN FACT, UH, BE IN A POSITION TO PRIORITIZE, UH, 11TH AND 12TH STREET, A CA A CAP ON 11TH AND 12TH STREET.UH, WHAT WHAT IT WILL DO IS IT WILL AFFECT, UH, THE, THE CAPPING, UH, RIGHT, THE ORIGINAL OR WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ORIGINAL MEANS ANYMORE, BUT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT BEFORE WE STARTED LOOKING AT 11TH AND 12TH STREET IN EARNEST WA WAS A CAP THAT WENT UP TO EIGHTH STREET.
UH, WHAT TEX DOT'S ENGINEERING SAYS IS THAT WE CAN DO UP TO SEVENTH STREET AND THEN GO TO 11TH AND 12TH STREET, WHICH WOULD CREATE ABOUT A 2.1 ACRE CAP AT 11TH AND 12TH STREET, WHERE PEOPLE REALLY PRIORITIZE WANTING THAT.
AND WE WILL LOSE ONLY THE ONE AT EIGHTH STREET, SO IT CAN, THEY CAN STILL COME UP TO SEVENTH STREET.
SO THAT'S A, A WONDERFUL, UH, RESULT.
THE 2.1 ACRES, UH, I'M TOLD WOULD COME AT A COST OF ABOUT $43 MILLION.
SO THAT, AS YOU ALL, UH, THINK THROUGH, PARTICULARLY WITH THIS BRIEFING, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT, HOW IT IS, WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT, AT FINANCING, BUT THAT PUTS US IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN, UH, WE CAN PRIORITIZE THAT, UH, VERY WELL.
AND THEN ONE OTHER THING, I'LL, I'LL, AS WE START OFF, AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF TECH OUT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, BUT I, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, UH, I, I'LL JUST SAY, AND I THINK EVERYBODY WILL AGREE WITH ME, WE'LL SEE IF, UH, IF THERE'S OBJECTION, BUT MANY PEOPLE, IT DID NOT GET REPORTED WIDELY.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST, UH, WEEK OR SO IS THAT THE TEXDOT, UH, APPROVED A GRANT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN OF $11.3 MILLION.
THAT WAS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE SET ASIDE GRANT PROGRAM THAT WILL EXPAND AND ENHANCE OUR METRO BIKE SHARE PROGRAM, UM, FOR TRANSITION FOR ELECTRICAL BICYCLES.
UM, THERE WERE 42 JUST IN THE TXDOT AUSTIN DISTRICT.
THERE WERE 42 APPLICATIONS FOR GRANTS FOR THIS, FOR THIS MONEY AND OTHER MONEY.
THE DISTRICT, UM, HAD TO REVIEW ALL OF IT.
UH, AND THEY CAME DOWN WITH GIVING THE CITY OF AUSTIN 11.3 MILLION.
UM, I POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, IT DID NOT GET WIDESPREAD COVERAGE.
COVERAGE TENDS TO BE ABOUT WHAT THERE'S CONFLICT ABOUT OR WHAT THERE'S DISAGREEMENT ABOUT.
BUT HERE IS TDOT DOING SOMETHING THAT REALLY EXPANDS OUR, UM, THE PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO, UH, ELECTRIC BIKES.
AND I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE NOT ONLY RECOGNIZE IT, BUT WE SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, SOMEONE WHO'S ATTEMPTING TO BE A PARTNER.
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT, ASSUMING YOU CAN BE HEARD, UH, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU NOW.
THANK YOU MAYOR FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.
INTERIM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
I'M GONNA BOOK IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
I'M GONNA INTRO IT, SET, UH, UH, PUT THE FOUNDATION IN PLACE, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AT THE END AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME PRIORITIZATION, UM, SUGGESTIONS.
SO TODAY'S PRESENTATION, THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY, IS TO REALLY, IS TO TRY TO FOCUS, UH, THE COUNCIL AND GET FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL IF WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU SOME COSTS TODAY THAT PERHAPS ARE NEW TO YOU IN SOME OF THE AREAS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE IN DECEMBER BASED ON THAT PRIORITIZATION.
WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN DECEMBER TO FUND THE DESIGN OF THOSE PROJECTS.
WE'LL START OFF WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE CAP ANDIT PROJECT, JUST AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE'LL, WE'LL SHOW YOU WHERE ALL THOSE ORIGINAL PROJECTS WERE AND WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT PROJECT COMPONENTS AND OPTIONS, THE PROJECT COMPONENTS.
WHAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IS WHAT TDOT'S GOING TO DO IN THEIR BASELINE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO FUND.
THESE CAN REALLY BE CALLED, CALLED STITCHES AS WELL.
THEY'RE DIFFERENT, UH, MUCH WIDER, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THAN THEY'VE DONE BEFORE.
SO WE'RE REALLY CALLING THOSE TXDOT STITCHES.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL PAY FOR.
THEN WE WILL HAVE WHAT WE CALL CITY OF AUSTIN STITCHES OR CITY OF AUSTIN CAPS.
THAT'S TO EXPAND THOSE, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE EVEN FURTHER.
WE'RE THEN GONNA SHOW YOU SOME OPTIONS ON PHASING TXDOT.
WE WANNA THANK THEM, THEM BEING VERY FLEXIBLE IN HOW WE CAN FUND THE FUNDING TIMELINES.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TDOT STAFF.
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE.
THEY'VE GIVEN US MORE FLEXIBILITY.
AND WE'RE GONNA SHARE THAT WITH YOU TODAY.
THEN WE'RE GONNA, UH, TALK ABOUT PROJECT COSTS.
YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE PROJECT COSTS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, REALLY THE CONCRETE BOX, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING WILL BE THE AMENITIES, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PUT ON TOP OF THOSE DECKS.
WE'RE GONNA SHARE SOME ESTIMATED VERY, VERY, VERY ROUGH ESTIMATES.
'CAUSE OF COURSE, IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO PUT ON THOSE DECKS ON HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST.
SO WE'RE GONNA SHARE THOSE COSTS TODAY.
THOSE ARE NEW NUMBERS FOR YOU, AND ALSO WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAINTAIN THOSE
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ANNUALLY BASED ON THOSE COSTS.WE'RE GONNA THEN, UH, FS D'S GONNA SHOW SOME FUNDING OPTIONS THAT THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU.
AND THEN I'M GONNA COME BACK AT THE END AND GIVE YOU SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN OVER RICHARD AND MAYBE SWITCH CHAIRS HERE.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
RICHARD MENDOZA, INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.
SO THIS IS THE SLATE OF, OF CAPS AND STITCHES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
THEY STRETCH FROM HOLLY STITCH ON THE SOUTH, UH, WHICH IS THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS POWERPOINT SLIDE, ALL THE WAY TO 51ST STREET, UH, ON THE NORTH.
AND AS THE MAYOR PREVIOUSLY STATED, UH, YOU PLEASE NOTE THAT THE SEVENTH AND NINTH STREET CAPS THAT WERE SHOWN IN EARLIER ILLUSTRATIONS HAVE BEEN REMOVED TO ALLOW FOR THE 11TH AND 12TH CAP.
AND TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE ALSO SHOWN HERE IN ORANGE ARE THE PROPOSED CAPS THAT ARE BEING PURSUED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.
THIS ILLUSTRATION DEPICTS THE TEX DOT BASELINE STITCH DESIGN, OR ENHANCED CROSSINGS OF CENTRAL I 35.
THEY, THEY INCLUDE THE BRIDGE CROSSINGS WITH SHARED USE PATHS ON EITHER SIDE WITH 30 FOOT SEPARATION FROM BACK, A CURB NO CITY OF AUSTIN.
COST PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED, UH, FOR THESE ELEMENTS.
HERE'S A, UH, THREE D RENDERING OF THOSE BASELINE TECH DESIGNS OF THE, UH, TECH DOT BASELINE STITCHES.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THEY DO PROVIDE, UH, SHARED USE PATHS, SHADE STRUCTURES, UH, LANDSCAPING, AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING AND POTENTIAL PUBLIC ART.
I WANNA TALK REAL BRIEFLY ABOUT A DECISION, UH, COUNCIL MADE LAST MONTH REGARDING THE WOODLAND AVENUE, UH, STITCH.
WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO YOU.
YOU ELECTED NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE CITY, UH, UH, STITCH AND STAY WITH THE T STOCK BASELINE STITCH.
AND THIS ILLUSTRATES WHAT THAT BASELINE STITCH COULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A MUCH IMPROVED, UH, PEDESTRIAN BIKE CROSSING AT THE WOODLAND AVENUE THAN ONE EXISTS TODAY.
IT ALSO ALIGNS DIRECTLY WITH A BIKE AND PED NETWORK ON EITHER SIDE OF I 35.
A QUICK REVIEW OF THE CAP AND STITCH DEFINITIONS.
AND SO ON THE LEFT IS THE TEXT THOUGHT BASELINE STITCH DESIGN.
AGAIN, IT'S THE ENHANCED CROSSING 30 FEET BEHIND CURB.
AND THE CENTER ILLUSTRATES WHAT A CITY STITCH, UH, COULD LOOK LIKE.
IT'S BASICALLY THE FREEWAY DECK, UH, PLUS, UH, UP TO 300 FEET OF ENHANCED CROSSING.
AND THESE ARE WIDER, UH, ON THE RIGHT ARE A ILLUSTRATION OF A CAP.
AND CAPS ARE CROSSINGS GREATER THAN 300 FEET IN LENGTH.
THE PRIMARY DISTINCTION BETWEEN CAPS AND STITCHES HERE ARE THAT THE CAPS REQUIRE LIFE SAFETY FAN VENTILATION, WHILE STITCHES DO NOT.
AN OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE POTENTIAL CAP LOCATIONS BETWEEN, UH, FIFTH STREET AND SEVENTH STREET IS SHOWN HERE, TXDOT WOULD STILL PAY FOR THOSE VEHICLE CROSSINGS AS WELL AS THE 30 FOOT BEHIND CURB SHARED USE PATH SHOWN IN DARK GREEN AND PURPLE.
ANY POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IN ADDITIONAL CAPS SHOWN IN THE HATCH GREEN AREA WOULD BE THE COST RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
HERE'S A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS A THREE D RENDERING, UH, OF THOSE POTENTIAL CAP LOCATIONS.
UH, THERE'S ALSO IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND, UH, SLIDE A PICTURE OF A NIGHTTIME VIEW.
SO THERE'S POTENTIAL TO PUT CUSTOM LI CUSTOMIZED LIGHTING, UH, FOR THOSE SPACES.
THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I'M GONNA COVER THE PROJECT COMPONENTS.
THIS, THESE ARE THE COMPONENTS THAT ARE GONNA ALLOW FOR THE CITY IF WE ELECT, UH, TO PHASE IN THE CAP AND STITCH PROJECTS.
THEY CONSIST OF THE ROADWAY ELEMENTS.
THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE CAPS, INCLUDING UPGRADED FOUNDATIONS, THE LOWERED ROADWAY, HAZMAT CA, UH, CATCHMENT AREA FOR THE LIFE SAFETY, FIRE, EXTINGUISHING MATERIAL, AND THE CONCRETE SLAB, UH, TO SUPPORT THE DECK.
CAB TUNNEL ELEMENTS INCLUDE SUPPORT BUILDING, DECK CAP AND JET FANS.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE THIRD COMPONENT ARE THE AMENITIES, WHICH WE WOULD ELECT TO PUT
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ON TOP.THESE COULD BE OPEN, UH, SPACE PARKS, RESTROOMS, PAVILIONS TREES, OR CULTURAL, UH, FACILITIES.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH TXDOT IN MAKING THIS, UH, PHASED APPROACH, UH, AVAILABLE TO US.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ROADWAY ELEMENTS FIRST, FOR THE CAPS THEY'RE SHOWN HERE IN THE YELLOW HATCHED AREAS.
THESE, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE NEEDED TO NOT PRECLUDE US FROM COMING BACK AND CAPPING AT A LATER DATE IF WE CHOOSE TO.
AND THEY'RE SHOWN HERE AGAIN IN HATCH YELLOW.
THEY INCLUDE THE VERTICAL SUPPORT COLUMNS, THE LOWERED ROADWAY.
THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE OVERHEAD JET FANS, HAZMAT CONTAINMENT FOR FIRE LIFE SAFETY SUPPRESSION.
AND THEN FOR COMPARISON, YOU CAN SEE THE BASELINE TXDOT STRUCTURES IN, IN DARK BLACK.
THESE ROADWAY ELEMENTS CAN BE CONSTRUCTED FIRST, AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK AT A LATER DATE IF WE ELECT TO, TO CONSTRUCT THE TUNNEL ELEMENTS AND CAPS AND PHASE IN THAT WORK.
AND I'LL HIT ON WHAT THAT COULD MEAN FOR SCHEDULING IN LATER SLIDES.
SECOND ELEMENT ARE THE CAP AND STAGE COMPONENTS THEMSELVES.
THESE ARE, THESE ALSO INCLUDE THE OVERHEAD JET FANS, THE DECK AND THE TUNNEL SUPPORT BUILDING SHOWN IN ADDITIONAL HATCH, UH, YELLOW.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE THIRD COMPONENT ARE THE AMENITIES ON TOP OF THE CAPS.
AND WE REALLY HAVEN'T, UH, BEEN HIGHLIGHTING THE COST OF THESE AMENITIES AS OF YET.
BUT WE WANT TO BEGIN SHOWING THESE SO THAT, UH, WE CAN ESTIMATE THOSE COSTS.
AND COUNSEL GETS THE ENTIRE PICTURE OF WHAT THE PROJECT COULD ENTAIL.
THOSE AMENITIES ARE ILLUSTRATED HERE FROM THE TOP VIEW, UH, BOTH AT 11TH AND 12TH EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY COULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL AS THE CAESAR CHAVEZ TO FOREST STREET EXAMPLE.
OKAY, SO NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED, I'LL GO OVER THE COST IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.
THE FIRST COST, THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR DESIGN COSTS, UH, FOR THE VARIOUS CAP AND STITCH COMPONENTS.
TEXDOT WOULD NEED THE CITY COMMITMENT FOR 30% DESIGN IN THE AMOUNT OF $15 MILLION BY DECEMBER OF 2023, WHICH IS NEXT MONTH.
AND FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN, UM, IN THE AMOUNT OF AN ADDITIONAL 19 MILLION NO LATER THAN DECEMBER OF 2024.
SO THESE ARE THE TOTAL DESIGN COSTS FOR ALL OF THE CAP AND STITCH LOCATIONS, EXCLUDING, UH, THE AMENITIES.
I'LL COVER THESE CONSTRUCTION COSTS IN MORE DETAIL IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, BUT PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE ARE VERY EARLY PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AND THEY CAN CHANGE.
THEY WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE LONGER WE ELECT TO PHASE IN THE, THESE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS DUE TO INFLATION.
AND THEN ALSO FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER ESTIMATIONS OF WHAT THE ANNUAL OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS WOULD BE FOR THE CITY STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS, AS WELL AS THE AMENITIES ON TOP ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, STARTING WITH CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES FOR THE ROADWAY ELEMENTS, WE HAVE THEM BROKEN DOWN HERE BY EACH CAP AND STITCH SEGMENT.
UH, PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE ARE NO ROADWAY ESTIMATES FOR THE STITCHES, AS THOSE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE PHASED IN, UH, ONLY THE CAPS, THE TOTAL CITY COMMITMENT NEEDED FOR ALL POTENTIAL CAP LOCATIONS AS SHOWN HERE AS 165, UH, MILLION DOLLARS, CERTAINLY USING THE SLIDE YOU JUST USED BEFORE COMBINING IT WITH THE, AND IT MAY BE THE NEXT SLIDE, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'VE JUMPED AHEAD.
BUT USING THE SLIDES YOU HAD JUST BEFORE ABOUT THE FUNDING DESIGN OF 30% AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL, AND THEN YOU COME UP WITH A TOTAL OF 165 MILLION, HOW DOES THAT, HOW, HOW DOES, WHAT'S THE PHASING OF THAT AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF TIME? YES, SIR.
SO THE 30% DESIGN COMMITMENT, UH, TXDOT WOULD NEED BY NEXT MONTH.
I'M, I'M NOW, I'M, I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THE PHASE ON THE 1 65.
I'LL COVER THAT IN A, IN THE FOLLOWING SPOT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR JUMPING AHEAD.
AND THAT COST, AGAIN, IS 165, UH, MILLION.
THIS SLIDE SPEAKS TO THE PHASING OPPORTUNITIES.
HERE'S, HERE'S YOUR DATES, MAYOR, UH, FOR THOSE CAPS, THE LEAST EXPENSIVE APPROACHES TO FUND THE ROADWAY ELEMENTS IN THE TEX CONTRACT
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IN 2026.SO THOSE ROADWAY ELEMENTS, AGAIN FOR 1 65, IF WE CHOOSE TO PHASE IT IN, THEY WOULD NEED THAT.
IF WE WANT TO GO WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT BY 2026, THAT'S THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OPTION.
OPTION TWO WOULD BE TO REQUEST THE CAPS IN THE TECH STOCK CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT VIA A CHANGE ORDER.
THAT WOULD BE IN THE YEAR 2027.
IN A LATER SLIDE, I'LL SHOW WHAT THOSE COST DIFFERENTIALS ARE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS.
OPTION THREE WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO REQUEST THE CAPS TO BE CONSTRUCTED, UH, IN A SEPARATE TXDOT CONTRACT IN THE YEAR 2032, WHEN THEY'VE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED, UH, THE HIGHWAY PROJECT.
SO THEN WE WOULD COME BACK AT THAT TIME WITH THE SEPARATE TXDOT CONTRACT AND PUT THE LIDS AND THE CAPS AND THE, UH, LIFE SAFETY FEATURES ON AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE MOST EXTENDED OPTION WOULD BE OPTION FOUR.
WHAT TXDOT HAS ASKED THAT IF WE, UH, MOVE OUTSIDE OF THE YEAR 2032, WHEN THEIR HIGHWAY PROJECT IS STAND SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MORATORIUM ON ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION OVER I 35.
WE COULD WAIT UNTIL 2042 TO COME BACK AND PUT THE CAPS ON TOP.
SO JUST SO THAT I'M FOLLOWING THIS, THE FI HOW IS THE 15 MILLION THAT IS NEEDED THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY CITED FOR THE DESIGN PORTION COMPARED TO THE NOTE ADDITIONAL 19 MILLION DUE CORRECT.
TO COMPLETE DESIGN? SO THE 15 MILLION IS TO TAKE THE DESIGN OF THE CITY STRUCTURAL RESPONSIBLE ELEMENTS HERE THROUGH 30% DESIGN.
AND THERE'S, TXDOT IS INITIATING THAT DESIGN WORK NOW.
AND SO IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT, IN THAT WORK, WE WOULD NEED TO COMMIT, UH, TO GET TO 30% DESIGN BY DECEMBER.
THEY PLAN TO BE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN, UH, NEXT YEAR.
AND SO FOR THOSE ELEMENTS AND CAP AND STITCH SEGMENTS THAT COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, THEY WOULD NEED, IF WE CHOOSE ALL OF 'EM, THAT NUMBER IS $19 MILLION.
WE WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE TEXDOT BY DECEMBER OF 24, SO THEY CAN PROCEED WITH FINAL DESIGN ON THE HIGHWAY PROJECT.
AND THEN FOR CONSTRUCTION, THE FIRST DATE COMING UP FOR US TO MEET, TO MAKE OUR COMMITMENT FOR PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE SELECTED CAPTAIN STITCH LOCATIONS WOULD BE 2026.
THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OPTION.
AND THEY WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR, UH, CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.
THAT'S, THAT'S CLAR THAT HELPS TO CLARIFY THAT.
IF WE WANTED TO FUND ALL OF THE CAPS AS PROPOSED, THE INTENT WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO IDENTIFY 15 MILLION WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 19 MILLION BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
YEAH, THAT WOULD KEEP ALL OF OUR OPTIONS OPEN IF WE GO AHEAD AND FUND THE ENTIRETY FOR THE DESIGN.
NOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PRIORITIZATION AND SELECTION AND ADJUST WHAT WE ACTUALLY DECIDE TO BUILD UP UNTIL 2026.
SO THE DESIGN COSTS ARE SEPARATE FROM THE ONE 65 MILLION? YES, MA'AM.
IT'S, AND THE ONE 65 MILLION ONLY COVERS THE ROAD ELEMENTS.
SO WHAT ARE, MAYBE THAT'S LATER IN THE, IT'S LATER IN THE PRESENTATION WHAT THE OTHER COSTS ARE.
AND CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT WAS PROMISED BY TXDOT THAT THEY WOULD COVER WITH? I THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING THE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CAP.
THEY'RE LOWERING THE ROADWAY AND THEIR BASELINE PROJECT IS SHOWN HERE IN THE BLACK.
AND, AND ALONG WITH THE ENHANCED CROSSINGS, WHICH AN ILLUSTRATION OF THAT WAS THE WOODLAND.
SO THE BASELINE T DOT PROJECT WITH NO CITY PARTICIPATION IS, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE ROADWAY IS A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER ELEVATION THAN IT WOULD BE TO ACCOMMODATE A CAP THAT'S, THEY WOULD NEED TO LOWER IT TO ACCOMMODATE THE OVERHEAD FANS, UH, THE SUPPORT STRUCTURES NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, BASELINE PROJECT.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE AS WIDE OR AS DEEP, UH, FROM A STRUCTURAL, UM, PERSPECTIVE.
UH, AND THAT WOULD BE THE BASELINE TECH STOCK, UH, PROJECT.
I'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER.
ALTER, JUST TO GET AN ABUNDANCE OF CLARIFICATION, IN YOUR BIG YELLOW BOX AT THE TOP
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OF SLIDE 17, IT SAYS, COA COMMITMENT IS NEEDED BY DECEMBER OF 24 TO FUND STRUCTURES.SO THAT'S NOT JUST THE 19 MILLION, THAT'S WHATEVER WE DECIDE.
WHETHER IT'S JUST THE ROAD ELEMENTS, WHETHER IT'S THE, THE CAPS AS WELL.
WE NEED TO, BY DECEMBER OF 24, HAVE A COMMITMENT OF EITHER MAYBE 165 MILLION.
I KNOW THE FUTURE SLIDES TALK ABOUT THE CAP COST, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE 19 MILLION BY DECEMBER OF 24.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, HERE IS A, UH, SPREAD OUT TIMELINE OF THOSE DECISION POINTS THAT WE JUST COVERED BEGINNING NEXT MONTH WITH A COMMITMENT FOR 30% DESIGN.
UH, WE DO SHOW, WE ANTICIPATE A DECISION FROM THE U-S-D-O-T ON OUR GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES.
UH, GRANT FOR THE CAP BETWEEN C CHAVEZ AND FOURTH, UH, AS YOU RECALL, WE APPLIED FOR 105, UH, MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT.
UH, TAKEOUT SHOWS A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGNED BY APRIL, MAY 26, AND THEN THE TARGET FOR THE COMMITMENT OF THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION AND CITY CAPS IN 26 AND 27.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE COST ESTIMATES FOR EACH ELEMENT AND SEGMENT, UH, TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE CAPS AND THE STITCHES TO THIS IS INCLUSIVE OF THE ROADWAY ELEMENTS, THE ONE 65 MILLION SHOWN EARLIER.
THE BOTTOM LINE TO TAKE FROM THIS SLIDE IS THAT THE, UH, ALL IN IS 509 MILLION.
IF WE ELECT TO DO JUST THE CAPS THEMSELVES, THAT NUMBER'S REDUCED TO $478 MILLION.
THESE ARE COST ESTIMATES FOR THE AMENITIES THAT POTENTIALLY WE COULD BUILD ON TOP OF THE CAPS.
THESE COST ESTIMATES ARE TAKING FROM THE EXAMPLE OF THE CLYDE WARREN PARK CAP IN DALLAS, UH, TEXAS.
AND IT ALSO CAPTURES INITIAL ESTIMATES FOR, UH, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.
SO THIS SLIDE WRAPS UP ALL OF THE SEGMENTS WITH THE DIFFERENT COSTS BY SCENARIO.
UM, THE CAP STITCH SEGMENTS ARE ALONG THE LEFT, AND AS YOU GO RIGHT ACROSS THE SLIDE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, UH, LOWEST COST ALTERNATIVE FOR ALL LOCATIONS IS THAT ONE 65 MILLION TO BUILD THE ROADWAY ELEMENTS, PLUS THE 34 MILLION FOR DESIGN.
UH, SO THAT WOULD TOTAL $208 MILLION IF THE CITY ELECTS TO GO WITH SCENARIO TWO TO INCORPORATE INTO THE TEXT STOCK CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE BOTH THE ROADWAY ELEMENTS AND THE TUNNEL ELEMENTS, THEN THAT NUMBER IS SHOWN HERE AS 543 FOR ALL CAP AND STITCH LOCATIONS.
AND THEN THE FINAL NUMBER IS WHEN YOU ADD IN COST ESTIMATES FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS AND AMENITIES, UH, ON TOP.
AND THOSE ARE STILL TO BE DETERMINED.
UH, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE'LL BE GETTING CONTINUOUS FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
UH, ON THE CAPS, THE FAR RIGHT TWO COLUMNS ARE OUR FIRST ESTIMATES AT THE ANNUAL OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, BOTH FOR THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS, UH, FROM TEXT THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, THESE ARE THE ADDITIONS TO THEIR BASE DESIGN, UH, OF 12.7 MILLION.
WE WOULD HAVE TO LIKE, UH, MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE FORCE FAN VENTILATION SYSTEM, ALL THE MECHANICAL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND THEN ON THE FAR RIGHT IS AN ESTIMATION OF ANNUAL, UH, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FOR ANY AMENITIES AND IMPROVEMENTS WE WOULD BUILD ON TOP OF THE CAP AND STITCH LOCATIONS.
AGAIN, WE, UH, WE HOPE TO HEAR NEXT FEBRUARY A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME OF OUR GRANT APPLICATION OF 105 MILLION THAT COULD BE APPLIED TO ANY ONE OF THESE, UH, UM, OPTIONS.
WELL, THE OPTION BETWEEN CA CHAVEZ AND FOURTH, AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO FINANCE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR FUNDING OPTIONS ON HOW WE MIGHT, UH, MEET THOSE COMMITMENTS IF WE ELECT TO GO FORWARD WITH ANY OF THESE CAPTAIN STATE LOCATIONS.
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WHAT WE'VE DONE TO, TO GIVE YOU, UH, THE BIGGEST PICTURE POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES IS FOR THIS PROJECT IS, UM, BASICALLY CREATE A MENU OF THE, ALL THE VARIOUS OPTIONS, UM, BUT ALSO INDICATE WHERE THEY'RE BEST APPLIED OR NOT APPLIED.UM, AND THEN JUST SOME ADDITIONAL NOTES.
SO YOU NOTICE THAT WITH THIS TABLE, AND IT APPEARS ON THE, THE NEXT SLIDE AS WELL, THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE GREEN, YELLOW, RED, UM, TO, TO, TO MAKE IT PRETTY CLEAR AS TO WHERE IT'S BEST, UM, APPLIED, MAYBE OR NOT, NOT RECOMMENDED.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE FUNDING SOURCE ON HERE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A LARGE SCALE PROJECT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO PUT AS MANY OPTIONS FORWARD AS POSSIBLE FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
UM, THE ONE, THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEST UTILIZED FOR THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, NEEDS UPFRONT, UM, ABSOLUTELY INCLUDE THE TIA, THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE AND INNOVATION ACT LOAN, UM, FEDERAL GRANTS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WITH TIA, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A LOAN, IT WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED DEBT ON THE CITY'S BOOKS.
UM, AND THEN FEDERAL GRANTS, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE, UM, RICHARD NOTED, WE ARE PURSUING ALL OF THOSE THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE.
UM, AND THEN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS WOULD REQUIRE A BOND ELECTION.
UM, THE, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT, UM, OH, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, ONE QUICK THING.
UM, THERE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.
UM, WE ARE INVESTIGATING WHAT THE POTENTIAL VALUES ARE OF PROPERTIES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THERE'S STILL QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO ON THAT FRONT TO, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A COMPLETE PICTURE, ESPECIALLY RELATIVE TO GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.
UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING CLOSELY AT THAT.
UM, IT WOULDN'T BE THE BEST SOURCE FOR THE UPFRONT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CAP AMENITIES.
SO THAT DOES GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN TERMS OF, OF, UH, THE SCHEDULE.
ONE THING TO NOTE THERE IS, WHILE THERE, IT DOES QUALIFY FOR USE HERE, UM, AND IT DOES NOT REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL, LIKE THE, THE STATE HAS PAID PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO, UM, HOW AND WHEN COS CAN BE USED.
UM, AND IT ALSO, IT DOES CREATE CHALLENGES, UM, FOR YOUR CAP AMENITIES BECAUSE ONCE YOU USE COS, UM, YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T USE COS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
UM, SO AS WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE CAP AMENITIES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCLUDING THE CONVERSATION WITH VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES TO MAKE SURE CUTTING OURSELVES OFF OPTIONS.
CAN I INTERRUPT YOU QUICKLY? COUNCIL MEMBER CADRE? YES, SIR.
AND SORRY, GOD, I CAN'T SPEAK.
UH, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, DOES THE T-I-F-I-A LOAN INQUIRY BOND ELECTION? NO.
SINCE WE'RE ASKING ABOUT TIA, AND, UH, LET ME GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION TOO SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A COMPLETE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
TIA WILL, UH, A TIA LOAN WILL ALLOW US TO BORROW UP TO 33%, AND IN SOME CASES UP TO 49%.
BUT, BUT THAT REQUIRES SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT 33% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT MEMBERS, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE TOTAL PRO, THIS IS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT ON I 35.
UH, IT'S BEING DESIGNED AS PART, IT WOULD BE DESIGNED AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED, UH, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
SO IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, THE, THE COST OF THE OVERALL PROJECT, THE TIA LOAN PROBABLY WOULD BE ABLE TO DE DEPENDING ON WELL, HOW WE, HOW WE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THE TIA LOAN WOULD ALLOW US TO COVER ALL OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
TYPICALLY, UH, IT'S A LOW ENT, A VERY LOW INTEREST RATE BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S DONE SO THAT WE CAN DO, SO THAT CITIES CAN DO THINGS LIKE THIS.
UH, THE SECOND PART THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT YOU TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE TO START PAYING ON IT UNTIL FIVE YEARS AFTER THE LOAN IS MADE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THE CONCEPT OF UTILIZING A TIA LOAN TO OKAY, BECAUSE YOU CAN GET IT ALL AND YOU CAN GET IT, GET IT.
WE COULD GET IT ALL AND WE COULD GET IT DONE AT A LOW INTEREST RATE AND WITH SOME, UH, DEFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE TIME THAT WE'D HAVE TO START PAYING.
DID I SAY ANYTHING YOU DISAGREE WITH? NOPE.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
UM, SO I, I MADE THE NOTE ABOUT THE CEOS, UH, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND GROUND LEASES.
UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY, UM, AN OPTION WE WANNA BE CONSIDERING LONG TERM FOR THE CAP AMENITIES.
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THERE'S SOME, SOME FACTORS WITH TDOT THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT IN TERMS OF, OF GROUND LEASE OPTIONS ON THOSE CAPS.UM, AND THEN FINALLY IS PHILANTHROPY.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THIS IN, IN, IN DALLAS THAT HAVE BENEFITED FROM PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY TO HELP SUPPORT IT.
UM, WE'VE ALSO SEEN SUCCESS WITH OUR WATERLOO GREENWAY CONSERVANCY MODEL ON THIS FRONT.
UM, SO BASED ON ALL OF THOSE FUNDING SOURCES, THAT MENU, UM, WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME HYPOTHETICAL FUNDING STACKS.
NOW, THESE ARE VERY HYPOTHETICAL, THEY'RE VERY, JUST KIND OF JUST TO HOW THIS MIGHT WORK, UM, BECAUSE LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN NOTED BEFORE, THE COST ESTIMATES, PARTICULARLY FOR THE CAP AMENITIES ARE VERY ROUGH ESTIMATES.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WOULD STILL NEED TO OCCUR AS TO WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD, UM, EXIST ON THOSE CAPS.
SO JUST TAKE ALL OF THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT IS, IS WHAT I'M BASICALLY SAYING.
UM, BUT BASICALLY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE PURPOSES, ASSUMING 543 MILLION, UM, WE COULD LOOK AT A STACK CAPITAL STACK OF FEDERAL GRANTS, TIA AND BOND ELECTION, UM, TO COVER THOSE COSTS FOR CAP AMENITIES.
THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR BEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR PHILANTHROPY AND AP THREE AS WELL AS THE, THE TAX COMMITMENT FINANCING, BUT ALSO BOND ELECTION DOLLARS TO TAKE, UH, FOR THAT AND YOUR ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSES.
THOSE COSTS CAN VARY SIGNIFICANTLY TO SPECIFICALLY DEPENDING ON WHAT AMENITIES YOU PUT ON THOSE CAPS, BUT THEY'RE ALL, SOME CERTAIN THINGS LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FANS AND AND WHATNOT.
UM, BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO CREATE A TRUST.
YOU CAN WORK ON GROUND LEASES.
THERE'S VARIOUS FEES DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHAT THOSE CAPS ARE, UH, OR WHAT THE AMENITIES ON THE CAPS MAY BE.
IT CAN CREATE SOME FEE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, SALES TAX REVENUE, VARIOUS OTHER TYPES OF TAX REVENUE.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST HYPOTHETICAL ILLUSTRATIVE.
THIS IS NOT LIKE A A IN WRITTEN, IN IN STONE PLAN.
UM, I'M JUST, I'M GOING OVERBOARD ON MAKING SURE THAT'S CLEAR
UM, SO, UH, AT THIS POINT NOW I'M GONNA PASS IT BACK OVER TO ROBERT.
SO YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ME TO ACCEPT A MOTION ON THAT PLAN? NO, NO.
YEAH,
SO I'M GONNA WRAP IT UP TODAY AND WHAT, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO, TO AT LEAST BEGIN A DIALOGUE ON WHAT YOU WANNA DO FOR PRIORITIZATION, BECAUSE YOU SAW SOME EXPENSES FOR THE FIRST TIME, SOME AMENITY COSTS AND OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT TO CARRY FORWARD THIS DECEMBER.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA GIVE TXDOT THE GO AHEAD TO START DESIGN WORK ON WHAT, AND SO WE WOULDN'T WANT TO TELL THEM TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL PROBABLY WON'T WANT TO EVER BUILD.
SO WE THOUGHT AT LEAST WE'D DO A, A STRAW POLL ON WHAT WE COULD DO.
AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, BASED ON WHAT YOU, ALL THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH WOODLAND, WE SUGGEST YOU JUST, WE JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAPS.
SO DECEMBER OF 23, WE WOULD PUT IN THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, DESIGN COSTS FOR, TO GET TO 30% DESIGN FOR THE CAPS.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER YEAR TO DECEMBER 24 TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO COMMIT TO AS A CITY FOR NOT ONLY THE DESIGN SUN DESIGN FUNDS, BUT THEN WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BUILD, WHAT TDOT'S GIVEN US THE PHASING FOR IS THE TIMING ON WHEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT MONEY.
WE STILL NEED THE COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY ON WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING, WHAT WE WANNA INCLUDE.
IF WE, IF WE PUT FORWARD THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR ALL THE CAPS, THAT KEEPS ALL OUR OPTIONS OPEN, AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER YEAR FOR ALL THE CAPS.
BUT WE DO RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT, WE JUST FOCUS ON THAT AND WE DROP THE STITCHES OFF.
SO WITH THAT, MAYOR, WE SURE APPRECIATE SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU IN DECEMBER.
YEAH, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO TRY TO, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE VOTING ON ANYTHING, COUNSEL, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
UM, SO LOOKING AT THE FUNDING THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO, TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT, I'M JUST CURIOUS, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY FUNDING AVAILABLE CURRENTLY TO PUT TOWARDS THIS ENDEAVOR? NO, IT DOES.
CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT REALLOCATING FUNDING THAT WOULD TAKE COUNCIL ACTION, UM, TO DO SO.
UM, THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME BOND DOLLARS FROM PRIOR, UH, TRANSPORTATION BOND ELECTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SPECIFICALLY PROGRAMMED YET.
THEY HAVE A CATEGORY PER SE, BUT, UM, THEY'VE NOT BEEN PROGRAMMED.
UM, AND, UH, BUT THERE'S LIMITED TO THE DEGREE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY ON HAND.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS, BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU IN THAT FOR MY CLARITY PURPOSES? WHEN YOU SAY
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MONEY FOR THIS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST MONEY WE NEED OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL THE MONEY WE NEED? ANY, ANY PART OF IT.SORRY, I COULD BE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC.
WELL, WELL, IN, IN MY HEAD, JUST, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF HOW WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, IT, IT, AND ROBERT, CORRECT ME IF I SAY SOMETHING WRONG, BUT AS WE AS, AND THIS IS JUST ME AND MY SIMPLISTIC WAY OF TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS, IT SEEMS TO ME WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DECISIONS AND YOUR QUESTION GOES TO MAYBE ALL OF THEM.
SO DECISION NUMBER ONE IS DO WE WANT TO BE PREPARED TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP, WHICH IS THE, THE 15 MILLION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S 15 MILLION BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND PROBABLY HAVE A REALLOCATION OF DOLLARS.
THEN THE SECOND TRANCHE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL 19 MILLION, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO, AND AT LEAST TO THE THIRD, WHICH IS WE HAVE TO BE IN A POSITION TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO DO ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME PRIORITIZATION.
UH, WHAT I THINK I HEARD ROBERT SAY IS THAT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE BY, WE, WE, WE BUY OURSELVES TIME, IF YOU WILL, BY SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE 30% AT 15, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THINGS LIKE, UH, EXPLORE A TIA ALONE AND BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, THAT, THAT WOULD COVER IT ALL.
AND WE DON'T NEED TO THEN PRIORITIZE AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO FIRST HERE.
WE WOULD ALSO KNOW BY FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR WHETHER WE GOT THE GRANT.
SO WE, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE FIRST.
BUT YOU, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I, I BREAK IN MY SIMPLISTIC MIND, I'M BREAKING IT DOWN INTO THREE KIND OF TRANCHES.
SO THAT'S WHY I INTERRUPTED AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT TO ASK THAT QUESTION, I WOULD'VE GOTTEN THERE EVENTUALLY, BUT YOU'RE MORE, MUCH MORE SUCCINCT IN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, I'M SITTING HERE THINKING, AND, AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND MAYBE EVEN MY COLLEAGUES.
I MEAN, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH $15 MILLION BASICALLY BY THE END OF NEXT MONTH.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN JUST PRINT MONEY
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY MAYBE REALLOCATE OR COME UP WITH THAT AS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO SHOW TXDOT WE ARE INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT, AND THEN GET THE ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS FROM OUR PROFESSIONAL CITY STAFF ON THAT.
SO, UH, WE HEAR YOUR MIC'S WELL, I THINK, I THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH ROBERT.
HE GOES OPEN THE MICROPHONE AND GOES DEAD
GOOD MORNING AGAIN, ED MANINO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
SO BASED UPON WHAT WE HEAR FROM COUNCIL TODAY, OUR PLAN WOULD BE TO COME BACK IN DECEMBER WITH A CAPITAL BUDGET AMENDMENT OF $15 MILLION, WHICH WOULD BE BACKED BY DEBT.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY ACTION WE WOULD NEED FROM COUNCIL RIGHT NOW WITH THE FORM OF THAT DEBT.
WHETHER IT WAS REALLOCATING, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BOND FROM VOTERS, OR IF IT WAS THE TIFIA LOAN, OR IF IT WAS A FUTURE BOND ELECTION, UM, IS, IS, IS A MATTER OF HOW THIS PLAYS OUT, OR IT COULD BE EVEN THE, THE FEDERAL GRANT POTENTIALLY.
BUT THE ACTION WE WOULD NEED FROM COUNSEL IN DECEMBER IS SIMPLY A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR $15 MILLION BACKED BY A FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCE.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCE WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S VERY HELPFUL INFORMATION.
I THINK WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY HERE, AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANNA MISS OUT ON THAT.
UM, WE CAN MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT ENHANCEMENTS TO 35 THROUGHOUT THIS CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, AND I THINK THAT'S A HUGE COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CADRE, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER RYAN ALTER.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY MY VOICE DOESN'T GO OUT THIS TIME.
UH, I HAVE, I HAVE THREE SETS OF QUESTIONS.
UH, THE FIRST HAS TO DO WITH TIF FUNDING.
UH, I JUST WANNA TO KNOW WHEN WILL WE SEE THE FINAL REPORT ON USING TO FUNDS FOR THE CAPS? WELL, I, I THINK THAT'S ED AND, AND KIM, BUT THEY, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, SOME CONSULTANTS TO PUT TOGETHER THAT FUNDING STREAM.
I THINK THIS THE RESULTS OF ALL THAT WORK YOU SAW TODAY ON ALL THE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION ON THE OUR FUTURE I 35 PLANNING GRANT.
UM, AND IF THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED IN THE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS THAT I, I DO APOLOGIZE, UH, WHERE ARE WE IN THAT TIMELINE? AND, AND WHEN, WHEN WILL IT BE COMPLETE? WE HOPE TO HEAR IN FEBRUARY.
THAT'S WHY THE MAYOR, I THINK, HIT IT VERY SUCCINCTLY IS WHAT WE, WHAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING TODAY IS A DIRECTION ON SHOULD WE REMOVE A FEW STITCHES, THAT $15 MILLION THEN WOULD BE REDUCED SOME MM-HMM.
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WANNA REDUCE SOME OF THE CAPS GOING FORWARD OR KEEP THEM ALL IN THE BOOKS? SO FEBRUARY OF 24 IS WHEN WE EXPECT TO, TO HEAR BACK ON THAT GRANT, AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY THEN TO, TO COME BACK TO COUNSEL AND TALK ABOUT MOVE GOING FORWARD.COUNCIL MEMBER CONDRE, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU? YES, SIR.
AND JUST ADD, AND AGAIN, IF I SAY SOMETHING WRONG, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP ME QUICKLY.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US, I THINK, SUFFICIENT TIME FOR US TO KNOW WHETHER THE ABILITY TO GET A TIA LOAN AND FOR WHAT WE COULD GET A TIA LOAN.
WE, WE WOULD HAVE, WE'D HAVE GOOD, GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT.
SO THE, IN FEBRUARY, NOT ONLY WOULD WE KNOW ABOUT THE GRANT ON THE CESAR CHAVEZ TO FOURTH, BUT WE WOULD LIKELY KNOW AT LEAST A, A SOLID NOD AND A WINK AND A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD, GOOD JOB KIND OF THING ABOUT A POTENTIAL TIFFY ALONE THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW US, IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO, IF WE DIDN'T WANNA DO A TIA LOAN FOR EVERYTHING, UM, WE COULD, WE COULD START PRIORITIZING, BUT AT LEAST WE'D BE PRIORITIZING IT IN THAT CONTEXT.
ONE OTHER THING, I'LL, I'LL MENTION THAT TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS ON A TIA LOAN IS YOU HAVE 35 YEARS TO PAY IT OFF.
YOU DON'T START FOR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO START FOR FIVE, AND THEN YOU HAVE 35 YEARS TO PAY IT OFF.
SO IT, IT, IT FEELS A LOT LIKE THE CHEAPEST VALUE, THE CHEAPEST VALUE, OR THE CHEAPEST MONEY.
UM, AND WITH, WITH PLENTY OF TIME TO, TO HANDLE THAT.
SO I, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME INTERRUPT, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT AS PART OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, MAYOR.
AND I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, UH, THE, UH, I, I, I HAD SAID THE PLANNING GRANT, RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT YOU HAD YOU LAID OUT FOR THE PLANNING GRANT? NO, THAT'S FOR THE ACTUAL GRANT FOR CAESAR CHAVEZ TO FORD.
AND THAT WOULD BE TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, WE HAD RECEIVED FEDERAL DOLLARS TO COMPLETE THIS PLAN.
UH, ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES IF WE DON'T COMPLETE THIS PLAN AND, AND IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN? UH, DOES, DOES THIS THREATEN IN FUTURE FEDERAL FUNDS? WELL, I THINK FOR THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GRANT, WE APPLIED FOR UHHUH
THAT, THAT DOES IMPACT, I THINK, FUTURE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION ON, AND IT RELATES TO FEDERAL CAPITAL GRANTS, WHAT ARE OUR CHANCES OF RECEIVING FUTURE GRANTS? WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT EVERY GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
THE, THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS TDOT'S ALLOWED US TO PHASE NOT THE COMMITMENT FOR YOU'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA BUILD THEM, BUT AT LEAST FOR HOW WE'RE GONNA THE TIME, THE FUNDING TIMELINE.
SO WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PURSUE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT ED AND, AND, UH, KIM LAID OUT DURING THAT TIME TO CONTINUE TO SEEK FEDERAL GRANTS.
SO WE'D LOOK AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE COULD.
AND THEN I JUST, JUST WANNA THANK STAFF FOR ALL THEIR, ALL THEIR WORK AND ANSWERING ALL OUR QUESTIONS TODAY.
COUNCILMAN CADRE, MEMBER RYAN, ALT ALTER, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON AL ALTER.
I WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOLLY STITCH.
IF WE ELECTED TO NOT MOVE FORWARD ON THAT STITCH, IS THAT A CITY ONLY STITCH, OR WOULD THAT BECOME A CAPITAL OR TXDOT NARROWER OR KINDA LIKE WHAT WE SAW AT WOODLAND? THAT'S RIGHT.
IT, IT WOULD BE A TEXDOT BASELINE STITCH.
SO WE'D STILL HAVE THAT ENHANCED CROSSING THAT 30 FEET ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CURB.
SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE A GOOD, THAT, THAT'S THE BEAUTY AND WHAT THE, THE MAYOR ASKED US TO DO TODAY IS MAKE SURE WE, YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE UNDERSTANDING WHAT TDOT'S PROVIDING THEIR BASELINE.
SO EVEN IF WE, YOU'RE RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER REMOVED THAT HOLLY STITCH, IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT A CONNECTION.
TDOT'S STILL PROVIDING THAT 30 FOOT SECTION.
SO THIS ONE WOULD PRODUCE ABOUT AN ACRE.
SO I'M GUESSING IT'S JUST SHY OF 300 FEET.
UM, AND, AND DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF VISION OF, I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR THE WHY ON HOW WE GOT TO THAT ONE.
UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS, THERE IS SOME VALUE OF, OF, OF CREATING A LARGER, USABLE SPACE FOR, UH, THAT AREA.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY THAT I, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE VERY WELL CONNECTED TO THE CITY AND ALSO, UM, HAS, HAS PROXIMITY TO THE LAKES.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, HOW WE GOT TO THAT DECISION, THE, THE WHY ON HOW WE INCLUDED THOSE.
WE, WE GOT A RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL, I DON'T RECALL THE DATE ON, TRY TO FIND EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN TO PUT CAPS AND STITCHES, SO THAT, THAT'S WHY THAT CAME ABOUT.
THE WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING TODAY IS SIMPLY DO WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ENTIRE MENU OR DO WE WANNA START DOING SOME TRIAGE WORK AND PRIORITIZING BASED ON THE WOODLAND DISCUSSION.
UH, WE'VE HEARD SOME, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS DURING THAT CON DISCUSSION THAT
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LET'S SAVE OUR MONEY TO FOCUS ON CAPS AND NOT THE STITCHES.AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT TODAY.
THE, THE RESOLUTION WAS FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 23RD.
WELL, AS, AS WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION, I PERSONALLY THINK THE HOLLY STITCH HAS SOME, SOME MERIT, UH, WHEN I LOOK AT ALL THE STITCHES.
UM, AND SO AS, AS WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TODAY, I JUST THINK THAT IS AN AREA THAT WOULD REALLY BENEFIT, UH, ITS PROXIMITY TO, TO, TO VARIOUS COMMUNITY, UM, ELEMENTS.
I, I JUST THINK, UH, ME PERSONALLY, I, I, I FIND VALUE IN IT.
ALLISON TER, THEN THE MAYOR PRO TIM, THANK YOU.
I WANNA BUILD OFF OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER OR RYAN AL ALTER WAS ASKING ABOUT THE STITCHES.
SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING ON, UM, SLIDE THREE, THERE'S BLUE SECTIONS THAT ARE JUST STITCHES, AND WERE ALL OF THOSE, WILL ALL OF THOSE STILL BE TEXT DOT STITCHES? THEY JUST WON'T BE ENLARGED ALONG THE LINES OF THE COA STITCH MODEL? THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, AND THEN I WOULD LIKE US TO GET MAYBE IN WRITING SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FUTURE DEBT OPTIONS FOR THE $15 MILLION THAT, UM, ED MANINO WAS DISCUSSING THAT WE HAD MULTIPLE OPTIONS TO FUND THAT.
WE JUST HAVE TO DECLARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION IN WRITING ON WHAT THE DEBT OPTIONS ARE FOR THAT AND WHEN WE WOULD MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN THIS CHART ON PAGE THREE, UM, SHOWS THE UT CAPS.
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THOSE CAPS, UM, IN TERMS OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO THOSE CAPS AND WHETHER THOSE HAPPEN? WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN CLOSE CO COORDINATION WITH UT ON THAT.
I THINK THEY'RE STILL EXPLORING THOSE AS FAR AS I'VE HEARD.
AND, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THE SAME THING THAT UT IS STILL WORKING WITH TDOT ON, ON EXPLORING THOSE, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T HEARD OF A COMMITMENT FROM UT THAT, OKAY.
AND THEN, UM, HAVING BEEN IN THE DISCUSSION SINCE 2020, I'M, I'M, I'M CONFUSED AND A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED BECAUSE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CAPS ARE THE THING THAT ADDRESSED SOME OF THE, UM, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES.
UM, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE CLEARLY NOT IN THE PROPOSAL THAT TEXT THAT'S COMING TO US WITH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
THEY WERE IN ALL OF THE MODELS THAT WERE SHOWN TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET FEEDBACK.
UM, I THINK IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE CONFUSED.
UM, AND I'D BE ASSUMING THAT WE WERE GETTING THOSE, THOSE CAPS AND THAT THERE WAS MUCH MORE OF A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THOSE CAPS THAN WE'RE SEEING FROM TDOT.
UM, SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE THE ECONOMIC JUSTICE ADJUSTMENTS ARE IN THE PLAN, ABSENT THESE CAPS? THAT'D BE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE WIDENING THE HIGHWAY SO MUCH, WE'RE JUST FURTHERING THE DIVIDE IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE CAPS.
UM, AND IT SEEMS TO ALL BE FALLING ON US TO DO THAT, BUT YET I BELIEVE THEIR REQUIREMENTS AS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PROCESSES TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE, HOW, HOW THEIR BASE DOESN'T ADDRESS THESE? AND THAT WOULD BE A TEXT THOUGHT QUESTION.
TUCKER, COULD YOU RESPOND PLEASE? MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS OF TUCKER FERGUSON, TEXAS, AUSTIN DISTRICT, UM, I WOULD ASK YOU, COULD YOU REPHRASE THE, THE QUESTION? SURE.
HOW IS YOUR PROGRAM FOR I 35 ADDRESSING THE ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES THAT AT LEAST I UNDERSTAND ARE PART OF THIS PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW? ALL OF THAT WAS CONTAINED IN OUR, UH, DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.
AND ULTIMATELY IN THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, WE LOOKED AT MANY DIFFERENT STUDIES AND WHAT, UH, DIFFERENT IMPACTS OUR PROJECT WAS, UH, CAUSING ON, UH, DIFFERENT PARCELS AND COMMUNITIES AND PUT TOGETHER A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, UH, MITIGATION MEASURES.
AND, AND THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE FEIS.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO SOME OF THE MITIGATION MEASURES? SOME OF THOSE? UH, ONE OF, ONE OF THE MAIN ONES THAT WOULD BE THE MOST VISIBLE IS LOWERING THE HIGHWAY.
UH, MANY, MANY, UH, FOLKS BELIEVE THAT THE, THE, UH, ELEVATED SECTIONS IN THE UPPER DECKS HAVE BEEN A, A DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN EAST AND WEST AUSTIN FOR MANY YEARS.
UH, WE AGREED EARLY ON THAT WE WERE LOWERING ALL OF THAT, UM, FROM THE UPPER DECKS AND THE DOWNTOWN SECTION, WHICH ULTIMATELY DOES ALLOW FOR THESE CAPPING AND STITCHING OPPORTUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TODAY.
UH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE MOST VISIBLE, UM, AS FAR AS RIGHT OF WAY RELOCATIONS AND PROPERTIES THAT WE WILL BE ACQUIRING AS, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE ARE OFFERING SOME ENHANCED, UM, RELOCATION BENEFITS TO,
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UH, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES AND SOME OF THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT, UH, THAT PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, WOULDN'T OTHERWISE BE, UH, PART OF THE NORMAL RIGHT OF WAY RELOCATION PACKAGES, UH, EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.UM, SOME ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION TO RENT OR RELOCATE TO, TO PLACES WITHIN, UH, LOOKING FOR WITHIN A MILE OF THE CITY, UH, TO, TO ALLOW THEM TO STAY WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEN DO IT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME ON, UH, USING SOME FUNDS THAT WILL, WILL BE FROM OUR RIGHT OF WAY BUDGETS AND, AND DO THAT.
THOSE ARE A COUPLE THAT, UH, ARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT I CAN THINK OF RIGHT NOW.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL COMMITTED OR ALL DOCUMENTED IN THE FEIS, UH, DOCUMENT OF, OF ALL OF OUR MITIGATION MEASURES.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR FIS YOU DIDN'T REALLY, UM, INVESTIGATE THE IMPACT OF THE CAPS FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT, WE SHOWED THE CAPPING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THE, UH, BUT THE CAPS WERE NOT, UM, AGREED UPON OR, OR PART OF THE PLAN.
SO THE, UH, THE EMISSIONS ANALYSIS AND THE GREENHOUSE GASES THAT WE, UH, MODELED IN INCLUDED IN THE FEIS DID NOT INCLUDE THOSE.
UM, BUT THOSE CAPS, WHEREVER THEY END UP BEING WITH, UH, IN, IN COLLABORATION WITH COUNCIL, UH, THE CAPPING PROJECT, WE WILL DO ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE ON THE CAP LOCATIONS, WHICH WILL, UH, INCORPORATE THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS OR IMPACTS OF, OF THE CAP LOCATIONS ONCE WE, UH, COLLECTIVELY DECIDE ON WHERE THOSE CAPS WILL BE AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, BASED ON THE DECISION THAT WE HEARD THAT WILL BE COMING IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.
SO AT THIS POINT, AFTER ALL OF THESE MANY YEARS, WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF PUTTING THE CAPS WOULD BE.
THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED ONCE THAT PROJECT IN THE CAP PROJECT IS, UH, DEFINED AND, AND AS WE ARE, ARE TODAY, IT'S NOT DEFINED.
SO WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DEFINED PROJECT OF WHERE THOSE CATS WILL GO BEFORE WE CAN DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS ON IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, I MEAN, MAYOR PRO, TIM.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON COMMUNITY INPUT.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE THE, THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHO'S HANDLING THAT? IS THAT TDOT OR IS THAT THE CITY, OR IS IT BOTH COMMUNITY INPUT ON, ON WHAT, ON AS FAR AS, UM, THE, THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THE CAPS AND STITCHES, IS THERE ANY ANALYSIS BEING DONE WITH THE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE CROSSING THE HIGHWAY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES ARE PRIORITY FOR, FOR THOSE FOLKS AND IF THEY WOULD PREFER CAPS AND STITCHES ON ANY OF THESE, UM, PLATFORMS? SO, ON, ON THE BIGGER PICTURE, WE'VE HAD MANY YEARS OF COMMUNITY INPUT AND COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY.
SO THE, THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WE'VE HAD IN, IN THE OUTREACH, UM, ONES THAT WERE REQUIRED AS PART OF OUR EIS PROCESS, UM, WE TEAMED WITH THE CITY AND, AND HAD THOSE, UH, THE MEETINGS, BUT WE HAD A NUMBER OF OTHER OUTREACH IN COMMUNITIES WITH POP-UP MEETINGS AND, UH, WEEKEND MEETINGS WHERE WE INVITED THE COMMUNITY TO SHOW NOT JUST THE CAPPING AND THE STITCHING, BUT THE OVERALL PROJECT, WHICH THE CAPPING AND STITCHING OPPORTUNITIES WERE PART OF THAT.
SO WE RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION.
AND, UM, AND JUST THE, THE, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED TODAY OF, OF NOW BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THE OPPORTUNITY OF A CAP BETWEEN 11TH AND 12TH WAS BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT.
UM, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE, UH, DEVELOPED A, A ST OR A CAPPING OPPORTUNITY, UH, WHAT WE'RE CALLING IN THE AIRPORT AREA FROM AIRPORT, UH, TO THE, TO THE SOUTH OF THAT, WHICH WAS BASED ON, UH, PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND PUBLIC INPUT.
SO IT'S BEEN MANY, MANY YEARS OF PUBLIC INFOR IN, IN INPUT INFORMATION WE'VE GATHERED, AND WE'VE INCLUDED AS MANY OF THOSE, UH, FEATURES IN, INTO THE PROJECT AS WE COULD.
AND WE, WE'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND, UM, AND HAVE DONE THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY.
SO IF FOLKS HAVE AN OPINION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, LET, LET'S SAY WE COME TO A REALIZATION WHERE WE CAN ONLY FUND 80% OF THE CAPS AND STITCHES THAT WE'D IDEALLY LIKE TO SEE.
IS THAT JUST MORE OF AN INFORMAL WAY THEY NEED TO REACH OUT TO US OR REACH OUT TO YOU TO, TO MAKE IT KNOWN IF WE CAN'T GET ALL OF THEM FUNDED? UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE HEARING FROM PEOPLE AND IT'S, IT'S MIGHT BE MORE HELPFUL TO HAVE A FORMALIZED INPUT ON THIS AND PRIORITIZATION.
I KNOW THERE'S A HANDFUL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE CURIOUS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES ARE THE, THE NEED TO HAVES, WHICH ONES ARE THE NICE TO HAVES AND WHICH ONES ARE, HEY, IF WE CAN DO IT, THEN WE'LL TRY, WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR THE CITY ON THAT INPUT.
AND, UM, UM, BUT I, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO THE CITY'S PROCESS FOR GATHERING THAT INPUT, BUT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR THE