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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:02]

GOOD EVENING.

IT'S, UH, 6:42 PM ON DECEMBER 4TH, MONDAY.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION FOR DECEMBER TO ORDER.

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

UM, UNDER PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, WE HAVE JEANNIE RAMIREZ.

IS SHE ONLINE? YEAH, WE'RE GETTING HER ON.

UM, LET, SO SHOULD WE BE BY WAITING OR, UH, IF LIKE, APPROVES THE MINUTES.

THREE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER BARTEL.

COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, COMMISSIONER AGUILAR, VICE CHAIR PATTERSON, COMMISSIONER CASSADA, AND COMMISSIONER DILLA IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.

COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL.

JUST WALKING IN.

WELCOME.

OKAY.

WHAT A GLASSY PURSE.

.

I LOVE IT.

THAT CAME UP.

DO YOU WANNA ADD COMMISSIONER BLEVINS? WERE YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING? IS IT, UH, IS THE SOUND BETTER FOR YOU NOW? UH, I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE.

COMMISSIONER BLEVINS.

OH, IT'S GONE? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

OKAY.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BARTELL, UM, WHEN YOU'RE UNMUTED, THERE IS A LOUD FAN, LIKE SOUND IN THE BACKGROUND.

YES, WE HEAR IT RIGHT NOW.

IT MIGHT BE A CONNECTION ISSUE.

LET'S, UH, LET'S, LET'S TRY THAT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP.

IS THAT BETTER? MUCH BETTER.

OKAY, COOL.

LIKE, 300% BETTER.

ARE WE, UH, STILL LOOKING TO GET MS. RAMIZ RAMIREZ ON THE CALL? YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

WE'LL, HOLD, UH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

UH, UH, JEANIE.

THANK YOU.

[00:05:08]

OKAY.

HELLO? YES.

HELLO.

YES, WE HEAR YOU.

HI.

OKAY.

I'M SO SORRY, GUYS.

OKAY, I'LL START THEN.

HELLO EVERYONE.

I'M JEANNIE RAMIREZ AND I'M A LOCAL ROCK SINGER.

UH, PROUD TO SAY, UH, I TURNED 60 NOVEMBER THE FIRST.

UH, AND I'M STILL PERFORMING AND, AND COMPELLING, YOU KNOW, VALUABLE MUSIC.

UM, I'VE BEEN A MUSICIAN FOR 37 YEARS, A FILMMAKER FOR 10, AND I WANT TO PROCLAIM FOR OTHER OLDER FEMALE ARTISTS, OTHER ONES TO FEEL LESS, DON'T FEEL LESS FAT.

UM, WE'RE TOLD AS WOMEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET WRINKLED HAIR, YOU KNOW, YOUR HAIR IS GRAY, THAT YOU'RE TOO OLD TO PERFORM.

AND, UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M MAINLY SPEAKING ON.

UH, DOUBLE STANDARD.

AND YES, WE HAVE HIGH PROFILE ARTISTS LIKE LUCINDA WILLIAMS AND MARSHA BALL, STILL ROCKING IT OUT.

UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR LOWER PROFILE PERFORMERS LIKE MYSELF, I, WE ALL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S A TOUCHY SUBJECT, YOU KNOW, BUT I FEARLESSLY EMBRACE MY AGE.

AND, UM, I'M A LATINA WHO SINGS ROCK, MA'AM.

AND, YOU KNOW, UH, SHIRLEY MANSON FROM THE BAND GARBAGE, UH, SAID IN AN INTERVIEW THAT WOMEN, UH, WHEN THEY DO GET, YOU KNOW, THE GRAY HAIR AND THE WRINKLES THAT THEY, UM, THEY QUIT PERFORMING.

AND SHE OPENED UP FOR DEBBIE HARRY A BLONDIE, UH, WHEN DEBBIE WAS 70.

AND THAT WAS ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.

AND, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THE HEAD CHAIR, NAVAL AND TAMMY BLEVIN, THE MUSIC COMMISSIONER FOR ABSTAINING THREE MONTHS AGO, FOR THE RAISES FOR MUSICIANS, UH, THAT WAS VOTED, UH, IN OCTOBER.

UM, YOU'RE IN THESE POSITIONS OF POWER TO HELP LOCAL MUSICIANS WITH HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND YOUR ABSTAINING IS NOT CONDUCIVE WITH YOUR ROLES ON THIS COMMISSION.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT EQ AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR LATINAS.

UH, WOMEN LIKE MYSELF AND TIM, MCC CARSON AND SHELBY HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER.

AND I WOULD LIKE A CONVERSATION WITH NAGA VALLEY OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE COMMISSION WITH INSIGHT ON EQ.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST MY OPINIONS.

YOU KNOW, I, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PRO HOCKEY TOUR OF, OF SOME SORT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M AN ARTIST AND I, I FEEL THIS IS WHAT I, IT IT IS, IT'S WHAT I FEEL IS WHAT I WANNA EXPRESS.

AND, UM, I WANNA SAY LAST THING IS, MERRY CHRISTMAS, Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, MS. RAMEZ.

UM, UM, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

UM, I JUST WANT TO CORRECT FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, MYSELF AND, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR PATTERSON, WERE THE ONES WHO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE.

UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL.

I, I, I ALSO, THANK YOU, UH, THE, JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU, YOU ALL VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE HIGHER PAY FOR MUSICIANS.

IT WAS JUST THE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

MAY YOU ALL SUPPORT IT, THE, JUST TO, TO GET THAT CLEAR.

UH, SO AGAIN, UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

UH, THE HIGHER PAY FOR MUSICIANS IS FOR CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.

UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, UH, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED IN FAVOR OF.

UH, THIS WAS PARTICULARLY, UH, IN REGARDS TO SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

UH, UH, I JUST WANTED TO, FOR THE RECORD, CLARIFY THAT, UH, UH, CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ABSTAINED.

THANK YOU.

UM, YEAH, YEAH.

UH, MOVING ON.

MAY I SAY SOMETHING, OR AM I, YEAH, I THINK WE, WE, WE CAN'T DO A QUESTION, ANSWER THING THOUGH, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS SECTION.

YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

SO, JUST WANTED TO, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU WANNA SAY, THAT'S FINE.

BUT, UH, NO QUESTION, NOT MUCH INTERACTION QUESTION.

NO QUESTION, NO QUESTION.

BUT, UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR EXPERIENCE, UM, TO THIS MUSIC COMMISSION.

WE ARE ALL VERY ACTIVE, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, UM, TAKING THE TIME TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS AS, UH, THE, THE MEN AND WOMEN HERE, UM, UH, UH, TAKE TO HEART WHAT IT IS THAT YOU SAY.

AND I THINK THAT WE VERY MUCH AGREE AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON DEVELOPING PROGRAMS AND MARKETING, MARKETING INITIATIVES FOR ALL OUR MUSICIANS.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR, FOR COMING TO SPEAK, UM, TO THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA, UM, DEFINITELY AS A, AS A WOMAN MUSICIAN MYSELF, UM, UH, WE, WE ALL ARE, UM, PRI TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BEING IN THE SCENE FOR AN, UH, FOR A LONG TIME.

AND, UH, UM, HOW AGE, IN SOME WAY BECOMES A DISCRIMINATORY FACTOR, UH, IN, IN GETTING OPPORTUNITIES.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF WAYS, WE LOOK UP

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TO ARTISTS.

I'M SURE ARTISTS YOUNGER THAN ME, I'VE BEEN TOLD, LOOK UP TO ME AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THAT FROM SOME ARTISTS AND, AND AGAIN, MYSELF.

UM, I HOLD ARTISTS SUCH AS ELIZA GILKESON AS ROLE MODELS, UH, IN THAT REGARD, AND HAVE HIGH REGARD FOR WOMEN MUSICIANS WHO STAY IN THE GAME AND CONTINUE SETTING AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW WE AS WOMEN PERFORMERS CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK IN THIS SCENE AND, AND, AND, AND NOT GIVE UP.

SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS, UM, ON THAT FRONT.

UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR JOINING.

MOVING ON,

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

UH, TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UM, IF EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST NOVEMBER MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, UH, PLEASE.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER DAVILA.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

UH, COMMISSIONER CASDA, HOW DO YOU VOTE? I WASN'T, I WASN'T HERE, SO, CAN I VOTE? ALRIGHT.

UM, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW, YOU COULD OR YOU COULD STAY YEAH.

WASN'T SURE HOW WORKS.

ALRIGHT.

UM, MOTION IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

MOVING ON TO STAFF

[2. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department. ]

BRIEFINGS.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, UPDATE BY KIM MACARON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

HELLO, KIM MACARON, PROGRAM MANAGER OF MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.

AND I'M GIVING THE BRIEF, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, UH, YOU'LL SEE A COLUMN OF BRIGHT COLORS THAT YOU'VE SEEN EVERY MEETING.

IT'S GETTING TALLER AND TALLER.

AND THAT WAS THE LAST MEETING WAS JUST THAT COLUMN, WHICH WAS THE YEAR OF FY 23.

AND, UH, THE LITTLE BLUE BLOCK NEXT TO IT IS THE FIRST MONTH OF FY 24, WHICH IS OCTOBER COLLECTIONS OF 755,308.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS COLLECTED IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.

SLIGHTLY HIGHER, BUT VERY SIMILAR.

WE DON'T HAVE, UM, A YEAR-END ESTIMATE YET.

IT'S TOO EARLY, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, WHERE THERE'S NOT AN AMENDED BUDGET YET EITHER.

SO I DON'T HAVE NUMBERS FOR THAT.

JUST THE, JUST THE OCTOBER NUMBER FOR THE FY 24.

DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, 1, 1, 1 QUESTION HERE, SCOTT.

YEAH.

YES.

UM, MS. MCCART, EXCUSE ME.

UH, WHAT'S THE, UH, UH, OVERAGE? UH, LAST MONTH WHEN WE DID THIS, IT WAS ABOUT 4,000 EXTRA DOLLARS THAT WAS IN OUR, SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, CAN YOU, CAN WE, YEAH.

SO THIS WAS THE SLIDE Y'ALL SAW LAST MONTH, AND THIS WAS THE FINAL FOR THE YEAR.

AND I PUT THIS ON HERE JUST IN CASE Y'ALL WANTED TO REVIEW THAT AGAIN.

SO YOU HAD THE, UM, THE YEAR TO DATE FINAL TOTAL, WHICH WAS 4 MILLION 4 72 9 73.

AND THEN THE ESTIMATE WAS 4 MILLION 43 1 66.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT 10% ISH, UM, MORE THAN WHAT WAS ESTIMATED.

SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT? IT JUST ROLLS OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR KIND OF THING.

LIKE A YEAH, I THINK IT DOES.

MAYBE IT, DOES IT ROLL OVER LIKE A, SO NOVIA WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YEAH.

PRIME CODE CELL PHONE PLAN OR SOMETHING.

GOOD EVENING.

SO, NOVIA , DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, YOU ARE CORRECT, BUT IT WAS COLLECTED THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

WE WILL SPEND IN THE CURRENT YEAR, AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK, UH, WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS LATER.

AND I BELIEVE, UM, ERICA'S GONNA DO A PRESENTATION ON THAT, SO IT ROLLS OVER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. HOLTRAN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC? ANYONE ONLINE? OKAY, THANK YOU.

MOVING ON.

[3. Live music venue eligibility for 2024 Live Music Fund update, Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]

THE NEXT TOPIC ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, LIVE MUSIC VENUE ELIGIBILITY FOR 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND UPDATE BY RICO SHAMALI, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, EDD.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, KIM.

THANKS, ERICA.

HELLO COMMISSIONERS.

ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE INCLUSION OF LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GOING FORWARD.

SO, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SOME INFORMATION,

[00:15:01]

SOME REMINDERS OF HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE, INCLUDING THE LAST BULLET FOR MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION FROM, UH, FEBRUARY OF 2022, WHERE THE, YOU GUYS, THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDED OPTION TWO TO AMEND GUIDELINES, UM, PRESENTED ON SEPTEMBER 13TH.

ACCORDING TO THE FEEDBACK FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUND STAKEHOLDER WORKING GROUP WAS, WHICH WAS TO INCLUDE LIVE MUSIC VENUES IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, UH, WHICH IS OUR UPCOMING YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THAT TAKES US TO WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY, WHICH IS JUST ELIGIBILITY FOR THE PROGRAM.

SO AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS TO ENCOURAGE, PROMOTE, IMPROVE, SHOWCASE, AUSTIN'S DIVERSE LIVE MUSIC INDUSTRY THROUGH SUPPORTING LIVE AND ONLINE EVENTS, RECORDING STUDIO PRODUCTION, VIDEO PRODUCTION, MERCHANDISE DISTRIBUTION, AND MUSIC BROADCASTING.

AND THEN ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS INCLUDE PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, BANDS THAT MEET THE CITY OF AUSTIN DEFINITION THAT YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY.

INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS THAT MEET THE CITY OF AUSTIN DEFINITION, AGAIN, THAT YOU'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY.

AND THEN LIVE MUSIC VENUES THAT MEET THE CITY OF AUSTIN DEFINITION THAT YOU ALSO HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY, BUT WITHIN THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, APPLICANTS MUST, UM, MEET AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS FOR PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN.

AND THIS HAS NOT CHANGED AT LEAST TWO YEARS OF DOCUMENTATION.

DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THE APPLICANT HAS REGULARLY PERFORMED, OR SIX, UH, RELEASE RECORDINGS OR SIX PROMOTIONALLY RELEASED MUSIC VIDEOS.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE DEFINITION WE USE THROUGH RELIEF RECOVERY AND THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND AGAIN, AS A REMINDER FOR THESE, UM, REQUIREMENTS AROUND ELIGIBILITY, YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE MSA, WHICH IS THAT FIVE COUNTY, UH, AREA OF CENTRAL TEXAS TO, UM, AND PERFORM SOLO, LEAD A BAND, OR HAVE AN EQUAL STAKE IN A BAND.

UM, YOU CAN PERFORM IN MULTIPLE BANDS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT RECEIVE AWARDS.

HOWEVER, THE BAND LEADER OR LEAD APPLICANT CAN ONLY QUALIFY FOR ONE APPLICATION.

UH, THE ACTIVITIES OF THE APPLICANT WHO LIVES IN THE MSA HAS TO TAKE PLACE IN THE ETJ, WHICH IS THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, WHICH INCLUDES FOUR OF THE MAINE COUNTIES, INCLUDING TRA TRAVIS WILLIAMS, HAYES, AND WHAT'S THE FOURTH ONE? WE WERE JUST READING THEM.

BASTROP, BASTROP COUNTY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, SO THOSE ACTIVITIES ACTUALLY HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN A DISTRICT OR WITHIN THE ETJ, UH, BECAUSE WE WANNA SUPPORT THE, THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, SERVE DIRECTLY TO AUSTINITES.

UM, UH, THEN ANOTHER REQUIREMENT OF EVERYONE COMPENSATES PARTICIPATING MUSICIANS AND CREATIVE WORKERS, AT LEAST THE CITY OF AUSTIN, MUSICIAN AND LIVING WAGE STANDARD RATES OF PAY.

SO FOR PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, THAT'S $2,200 PER HOUR PER ARTIST.

AND THEN FOR EVENT SHOW WORKERS, I HAD THE OLD THING, WHAT IS THE, OUR NEW, UH, UH, MINIMUM PAY FOR? IS IT 21 NOW? OKAY, SO I THINK IT'S GONE UP TO ALMOST 21 AN HOUR.

AND WE'LL AMEND THIS ONCE I FIND THAT OUT.

UH, AGAIN, ONLY ONE APPLICATION PER PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN WHO'S LEADING A BAND, OBVIOUSLY, AND MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OLD TO APPLY.

AND WE DID HEAR, UH, SOME QUESTIONS PREVIOUSLY.

CAN YOUNG, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UNDER 18 DO THIS IF SAY THEIR PARENTS OR THEIR MANAGER APPLIES.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, KIM HAS TALKED TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

WE DID CONFER WITH LAW, AND WE CANNOT DO THAT, THE ACTUAL APPLICATION.

AND THAT'S 'CAUSE THE CHECK GOES TO THAT PERSON HAS TO BE 18 YEARS OLD, AND THAT'S FOR TAX PURPOSES AND JUST FOR HOW CITY POLICY IS SET UP.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT, SO INDEPENDENT PROMOTER APPLICANTS MUST MEET ALL THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS.

NO MORE THAN THREE STAFF, AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS CURATED, UH, LIVE SHOWS FEATURING MUSICIANS AND BANDS, AND MUST NOT BE CONTRACTUALLY TIED TO ONE VENUE.

AND SO WE HAD LOTS OF PROMOTERS APPLY THIS LAST TIME.

IT'S VERY EXCITING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO AGAIN, THE INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS HAVE TO LIVE IN THE MSA, THE ACTIVITIES THEY'RE APPLYING FOR HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT OR THE ETJ, UM, AND AGAIN, HAS TO, YOU KNOW, COMPENSATE THE PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AT OUR RATE OF 200 PER ARTIST PER HOUR AND ONLY ONE APPLICATION PER PROMOTER ALLOWED.

AND AGAIN, STILL MUST BE 18 YEARS OLD TO APPLY.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND SO HERE IS OUR LIVE MUSIC VENUE DEFINITION THAT YOU'RE, UH, YOU HAVE SEEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I THINK AROUND FIVE YEARS OR FOUR YEARS WE'VE BEEN USING THIS DEFINITION WITH THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

IT'S ALSO THE SAME DEFINITION THAT IS PART OF THE STATE OF TEXAS REBATE PROGRAM.

SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF PARODY OF KIND OF ACROSS THE STRAI THE STATE IN TERMS OF AN ELIGIBILITY DEFINITION FOR LIVE MUSIC VENUE.

UM, I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

YOU'VE SEEN IT SEVERAL TIMES, BUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, SO THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE REQUIREMENTS, AGAIN,

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THE ACTUAL BUSINESS MUST BE LOCATED IN THE ETJ.

THE, THAT'S WHERE THE ACTIVITIES NEED TO TAKE PLACE AND THE, UM, HAS TO BE APPROPRIATELY ZONED AND ATTENDED USE AS A COMMERCIAL LIVE MUSIC VENUE AND MUST MEET THE DEFINITION THAT YOU JUST SAW.

AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS AROUND ELIGIBILITY? A COUPLE OF, UH, QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM, .

SO THE, THE, FOR FOR ROUND TWO OF THE EL FOR ROUND TWO OF THE ELIGIBILITY FOR, UM, MUS MUSICIANS, UM, PROMOTERS, ALL THOSE THINGS IN ADDITION TO MUSIC VENUES.

I, I BELIEVE IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DURING, LIKE, AFTER OUR INITIAL WORKING GROUP SESSION, THAT WE WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME THINGS AND, UM, LIKE DATA AND WHATNOT, AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU AND RECOMMEND CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD SAY WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE PROGRAM.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UH, IT, I DON'T KNOW, ARE WE ROLLING OUT WITH, WITH ROUND TWO? IS THIS METHING GONNA BE, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING OUT WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK IS FOR IMPROVEMENT.

WE HAVE THOUGHTS.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH A SUITE OF CONSULTANTS WITH AN EDD TO HELP WITH THAT PROCESS.

AND SO WE HAVE NOT SETTLED OR FINALIZED ANY GUIDELINES, UH, FOR THE NEXT ROUND YET.

WE HAVE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS BASED ON TALKING TO ALL OF YOU, TALKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND JUST LEARNING FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCES, UH, WITH THE PROGRAM.

BUT WE'RE NOT READY TO DISCUSS THAT YET.

AND SO NOTHING WILL BE ROLLED OUT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, AND FINALIZED WITHOUT, UH, THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, SEEING A DRAFT AND GIVING US SOME FEEDBACK AS LONG WITH OTHER COMMISSIONS.

OKAY.

SO I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE OF WHEN THAT WILL BE.

THIS WAS JUST THE FIRST ELIGIBILITY, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW YOU.

UM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT COULD GET FUNDED OR IS AS BEFORE, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'LL JUST COME BACK AND PROVIDE MORE DETAILS OKAY.

OF WHAT THAT ALL'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? UM, ERICA HAS THE, UM, HAVE WE DEFINED THE FORMAT OF THE APPLICATIONS, ET CETERA AT THIS POINT? ALL OF THAT, LIKE I SAID, IS UNDER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FIGURING IT ALL OUT AND FINALIZING EVERYTHING AGAIN WITH OUR SISTER DIVISIONS AS A DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE, AND WITH OUR, UH, CONSULTANTS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT ON BOARD.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, ARE WE STILL, UM, LOOKING AT A SEPARATE, UH, BUCKET OF MONEY FROM THE HOT TAXES, BUT SEPARATE FROM WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN USED FOR, UH, MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS? YEAH, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, THIS LAST SUMMER.

AND SO WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT AND FOR, YOU KNOW, VENUE INCLUSION.

AND SO WE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T BE LIKE THE SAME BUDGET JUST WITH LESS, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN TO THE MORE PEOPLE IT WILL BE MORE MONEY, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR.

SORRY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT LAST LINE? IT WILL BE A BIGGER BUDGET, UH, THAT WOULD, THAT APPLICANTS CAN APPLY FOR.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE 3.5 MILLION IN AWARD MONEY.

IT'LL BE MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE MADE SURE IN OUR BUDGET, IN OUR BUDGET REQUEST AND WHAT WAS APPROVED.

AND SO WE WILL, WE MAY EVEN LOOK AT DOING AN AMENDMENT TO SEE ABOUT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT CAME IN OVER OUR EXPECTATIONS.

AND STILL, SO, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ALL OF THAT OUT.

SO YES, THERE IS MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET SO THAT IT'S NOT THAT ANYTHING WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM ANYONE IN GROUP.

THERE WILL BE MORE MONEY SO THAT WE CAN SERVE ALL GROUPS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

YEAH.

SO IS THERE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT THAT, UH, THAT EDD LIKES TO KEEP IN RESERVE? SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUNDS THAN SAY THE CULTURAL ARTS FUND OR THE HERITAGE FUND.

YES, WE'RE GONNA KEEP A RESERVE.

UH, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND SINCE, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS OUR FIRST, UH, FORAY OUT AND WE HAD BEEN COLLECTING FOR A FEW YEARS BEFORE THAT.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A RESERVE, YOU KNOW, TO WORK WITH.

UH, AND SO, BUT WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS, UH, TEAM AND WITH HERITAGE, I THINK THERE'S A STANDARD RESERVE THAT IS USUALLY KEPT THERE.

'CAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE CONFRONTED WITH THE ISSUES OF THE PANDEMIC, AGAIN, OF IT GOING DOWN TO ZERO.

UM, I AM CONSERVATIVE IN THAT WAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY PAD A RESERVE WHILE ALSO INCREASING OUR BUDGETS FOR GRANTS, UH, BUT DO IT IN A, JUST A STEADY WAY.

MM-HMM.

AND I, I, I BELIEVE THE, THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF RESERVE, I THINK I, IF I REMEMBER THIS CORRECTLY, I THINK IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND LIKE ONE SIX OR 2 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IS THAT IT? IT DEPENDS.

IT'S RELATIVE TO THE OVERALL BUDGET.

SO 10%, 10%.

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10%.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

COMMISSIONER , YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? UH, SO WHEN THE, THE VENUES JOINED THE APPLICANT POOL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS AT ANY POINT, BUT WOULD THERE BE LIKE A PERCENTAGE THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR EACH GROUP OR WE, YOU'LL SEE THAT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO SEE HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, WORKING LIVE MUSIC VENUES THAT FIT THE DEFINITION MM-HMM.

COULD APPLY AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, IT'S GONNA BE COMPETITIVE, BUT WE WILL HAVE MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE THAN WHAT CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HAS BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UH, SO I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO PROPERLY FUND OUR VENUES AS WELL AS OUR PROMOTERS AND MUSICIANS.

OKAY.

YEAH, IT WOULD JUST NICE, IT'D BE NICE TO SEE A, A GOOD DIVERSE MIX.

YEAH.

CERTAINLY RECIPIENTS FROM ALL, ALL DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONS AND MM-HMM.

, UM, TYPES OF APPLICANTS.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER KADA, UH, THIS IS JUST LIKE A WILD QUESTION THAT JUST POPPED INTO MY HEAD, BUT ARE THE FUNDS, WE KNOW THAT THE FUNDS MAY EBB AND FLOW DUE TO THE HOTEL GROWTH DOWNTOWN AND CONVENTION CENTER, YADA, YADA.

DOES THE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND JUST SIT IN A SAVINGS ACCOUNT? OR IS IT INVESTED AT ALL? IT SITS IN ACCOUNT THAT EARNS INTEREST.

IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY THAT? BUT ONLY INTEREST ANY, ANY OTHER KIND OF INVESTING? NO, WE FOLLOW THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POLICY, SO WE CAN'T DEVIATE FROM THEIR, UM, REQUIRED INVESTMENT POLICY.

SO.

THANKS.

AND IF I COULD ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, IF ERICA MM-HMM.

, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON OR ANY OF YOU, IS IT YOUR VISION THAT YOU WOULD WANNA SEE A LINE FOR VENUES AND THEN A LINE FOR OTHERS? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? UH, I, MY THINKING ON THAT IS THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO DEFINE IN ADVANCE WHAT WE'D LIKE THOSE PERCENTAGES TO BE.

AND THE REASON I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT IS JUST VENUES BEING LARGER ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT HAVE MORE STAFF THAT CAN HELP WITH AN APPLICATION, WHEREAS A, YOU KNOW, A BAND LEADER MIGHT STRUGGLE MORE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THAT, THAT THE, THERE WERE SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH THE APPLICATION, SO WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THE, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE EXCITED FOR VENUES TO JOIN THAT AND NOT, I'VE BEEN A PROPONENT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING PART OF THE MIX ALL ALONG.

I JUST, I DON'T WANT THE, UM, THE MUSICIAN INDEPENDENT MUSICIANS AND SMALLER GROUPS TO BE ECLIPSED.

UM, I MEAN, NOT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF OUR VENUES ARE VERY SCRAPPY ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA SEE THAT WE HAVE A, A GOOD BALANCE.

DEFINITELY.

AND AS WE ROLL THINGS OUT, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA BE RESPONDING TO THAT.

AND WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF BOTH MAKING GRANTS TO MUSICIANS, PROMOTERS, AND TO VENUES.

AND WE'LL TAKE THAT EXPERIENCE AND USE IT TO OUR BENEFIT AS WELL.

SO JUST KNOW THAT WE'VE LEARNED A LOT, UH, FROM THE LAST FIVE YEARS WITH CSAP, BUT ALSO, UH, THROUGH THIS LAST, THIS FIRST FORAY WITH LIVE MUSIC FUND, LEARN FROM THOSE EXPERIENCES.

AND, UH, WE HEAR YOU, SO WE'LL BE SURE THAT THERE IS, THAT IT MAKES SENSE AND THAT THERE IS EQUAL, YOU KNOW, A SHOT.

SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER PATON, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER, I, I, I DO, I DO THINK, UH, THAT, UH, THAT IF, UH, UM, MAYBE SEPARATING MUSICIANS AND VENUES OUT MIGHT, MIGHT BE, OR, YOU KNOW, THERE A WAY FROM, THERE'S APPLES AND ORANGES.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, AND SO WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE, UH, IN THOSE, IN TERMS OF WHO THE, THE APPLICANTS ARE.

BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE FUNDING AND THE BUDGET AND THE WARDS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, EQUITABLE.

SURE, SURE.

IT'S JUST, YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT THE PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA USE WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, RIGHT.

OF HOW TO RESPOND AND, AND APPLY AND HAVE THESE TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS OR INDIVIDUALS APPLY.

SURE.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

I, IT'S JUST, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO, TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS AT ANY POINT LIKE A VENUE VERSUS A MUSICIAN OR A PROMOTER, THE VENUE'S GONNA WIN BECAUSE THEY'RE AGREED.

OBVIOUSLY WE, WE UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

YES.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GREAT, UM, IF YOU COULD,

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WHEN YOU'RE READY, COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT FRONT MM-HMM.

AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE RECIPIENT BASE LOOKS LIKE, UH, NUMBERS WISE ON IN EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES.

MM-HMM.

, JUST BASED ON YOUR PAST EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN I THINK SOME KIND OF PROPORTIONALITY WOULD MAYBE DO THE TRICK.

I YEAH.

BUT, AND, AND, AND WHEN ALSO BALANCING OUR EXISTING CSAP PROGRAM.

AND SO WE'RE, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS THAT I THINK, UM, COMMUNITY AND COMMISSIONERS WILL BE HAPPY WITH BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE PROGRAMS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE OR ONLINE FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ONE MORE QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

, UH, THE, AND, AND THIS KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, UH, NOW IF I ASKED YOU TO, TO, UH, UH, CLARIFY YOUR, THE, ONE OF YOUR LAST STATEMENTS, I, THE, I THINK THE, THE, THE CLARIFYING PART OF THAT MIGHT BE IS ARE YOU SAYING THAT, THAT THERE'S GOING, LIKE, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE MONEY THAN THE 5,000, $10,000 PER APPLICANT ? I'M NOT READY TO TALK ABOUT THAT YET, BUT LET'S, UH, WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION WE GAVE LAST YEAR WITH LARGER AWARDS AS A BETTER INVESTMENT OKAY.

UH, TO MOVE THE NEEDLE AND, UM, JUST KNOW THIS WAS A LOT OF WORK FOR $5,000 GRANT.

SURE.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT AS A LESSON LEARNED.

OKAY.

AND SO YES, WE WERE, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT EVERY ELEMENT FOR IMPROVEMENT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

GOTCHA.

YEAH.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK, YEAH, I MEAN, UH, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S, IT'S VARIOUS AVENUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EVEN IF, IF, IF THE FUNDS GO TO MUSIC, UH, TO VENUES, THEN THEY'RE GETTING DIRECTED TO PAY MUSICIANS FOR THE MOST PART.

AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

MM-HMM.

.

SO AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE LIKE AN ARRAY OF AVENUES THROUGH WHICH MUSICIANS WOULD EVENTUALLY BENEFIT, UH, YOU KNOW YEAH.

SOME DIRECTLY EITHER THROUGH THE VENUE OR THROUGH THEMSELVES EXACTLY.

AND THROUGH THEMSELVES FIT LARGER PROGRAMMING THAT THEY CAN DO THROUGH VENUES MM-HMM.

, MAYBE THROUGH REGULAR GIGS THAT THEY PLAY AT A VENUE.

SO AS LONG AS WE, I THINK WE HAVE SOME DIVERSE AREA OF OPTIONS, UM, TO, TO SUPPORT MUSICIANS, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT.

IT'S NOT COMPE, IT'S NOT A COMPETITION PER SE, FOR THE DOLLARS.

IT'S A COMPETITIVE GRANT.

SURE.

BUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE BUDGET FOR THE AWARDS IS GONNA HELP MUSICIANS IN VENUES AND MUSIC INDUSTRY BUSINESSES BECAUSE IT COVERS ALL THE PROJECTS AND IT, YOU CAN PAY FOR EACH OTHER AND EVERYONE NEEDS EACH OTHER, MAKE THIS INDUSTRY RUN.

SO THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY ACROSS ALL THE GRANTS TO, FOR EVERY ELEMENT TO BE SUPPORTED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER .

IT, IT SOUNDS, UM, I SO APPRECIATE WHAT EVERYONE'S SAYING, AND I THINK THAT THE OVERALL GOAL IS JUST TRANSPARENCY.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT JUST ALLOWS EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER AND BUILD TRUST IN THE ECOSYSTEM AND ALL THAT.

SO I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, AND IT'S GOOD THAT WE CAN KIND OF POKE HOLES IN EVERYTHING AND SEE THAT, UM, AND COMMUNICATE.

SO EVERYONE'S LEARNING ABOUT THIS HUGE NEW PROGRAM AS WELL.

RIGHT.

AND ONCE THE, AND THE DATA'S STILL COMING IN.

I MEAN, THIS, WE WON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DATA UNTIL NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL.

BUT JUST ANECDOTALLY, WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE WORKING TOGETHER LOTS.

THAT'S GREAT IDEA.

COMMISSIONER ROSEN.

YEAH.

AND I, I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT THE MONEY WILL WORK ITS WAY TO MUSICIANS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

BUT WHAT I HOPE FOR FROM THESE GRANTS IS TO SEE SOME REAL INNOVATION.

MM-HMM.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE A GOOD IDEA, WHO MIGHT SAY, WILL THIS MAKE MONEY OR WILL IT NOT? AND ARE WILLING TO ROLL THE DICE.

THAT'S WHERE GREAT GROWTH HAPPENS.

PEOPLE TAKING A CHANCE, DOING SOMETHING NEW.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE THAT WE WILL HAVE VENUES.

YES.

BUT VENUES HAVE UNCERTAIN WORLDVIEW, AND THEN PROMOTERS HAVE ANOTHER, AND PRODUCERS HAVE ANOTHER, AND MUSICIANS HAVE ANOTHER.

IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE OUT THERE, THEN YEAH.

OUR CHANCES OF REALLY STRIKING YOU RICH BY CREATING SOMETHING THAT WILL, A LOT OF THE RISK IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF WITH THIS SUPPORT AND THIS INVESTMENT, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DO TO HELP, YOU KNOW, BUILD THE INDUSTRY IN A WAY, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S INNOVATIVE AND PEOPLE CAN TAKE MORE CHANCES.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER , PLEASE.

OH GOD.

UH, ONE MORE QUESTION.

I JUST THOUGHT, LIKE, IS THERE, I WONDER IF AS WE'RE BRAINSTORMING AND, AND CLOSING OUT THE YEAR, THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, UM, I WONDER IF WE EVER CONSIDER ANY KIND OF CONSORTIUM GRANTS.

LIKE, IF IT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY FOR A VENUE AND A PRODUCER AND AN ARTIST TO PULL THEIR FUNDS TOGETHER AND CREATE,

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THEY CAN ALREADY DO THAT.

THEY CAN, GRANTS CAN ALREADY DO THAT.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO I'M GLAD I'M LEARNING SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, I THINK YOU HAD YOUR , UM, COMMISSIONER SDA LITERALLY TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUTTA THAT .

YEAH.

SO THAT WAS IT.

THANK YOU.

.

YES.

THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

YOU JUST CAN'T PAY THE SAME EXPENSES WITH TWO GRANTS.

YOU JUST KIND OF SPLIT UP ALL THE EXPENSES OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.

AND THAT'S JUST, WHY IS THAT? BUT THAT ESSENTIALLY COMES THROUGH DIFFERENT FOLKS LIKE PULLING THEIR FUNDS TOGETHER.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THAT'S ABOUT, YEAH.

OKAY.

AND IT CAN HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THEY GOT GRANTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING, A LOT OF TIMES THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE LOCATION YET.

THEY HADN'T, YOU KNOW, CONFIRMED DATES.

UM, THEY COULD COME AFTERWARD.

AS LONG AS IT'S THE EVENT THEY PROPOSED AND WERE SCORED ON, THEY CAN STILL COME TOGETHER.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT ALL PLANNED OUT BEFORE THE APPLICATION.

THEY CAN COME TOGETHER ORGANICALLY AFTER THE AWARDS ARE ANNOUNCED AND, AND LIKE, OH, I SAW THAT YOU DID THIS.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE CONVERSATION STARTS.

AND THE DREAMS COME TRUE WITH IMAGINATION.

UM, AS LONG AS YOU'RE DOING THE PROJECTS THAT WERE, THAT YOU APPLIED FOR, YOU WERE SCORED ON AND AWARDED FOR, AND YOU DON'T PAY THE SAME EXPENSE TWICE.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

I THINK, UM, TO, TO WHAT COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL SAID, UH, EARLIER, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE LARGER VALUE OF THE FUNDS FOR MUSICIANS ALSO COME INTO PICTURE.

AND THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE BENEFICIAL, UH, TO OH, WE'RE SEEING IT JUST ANECDOTALLY.

WE'RE SEEING LOTS OF COLLABORATION.

YES.

THAT'S FANTASTIC.

YEAH.

GREAT.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? I DO HAVE A, A QUESTION, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PART OF THIS AGENDA OR MAYBE IF WE NEED TO ADD ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM OR NOT, BUT THE, THE ADVISORS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, HIRED TO, TO HELP KIND OF STEWARD THE, THE, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND ALL THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT HERE? DO WE NEED TO JUST LIKE, I THINK THERE'S, YEAH.

IT'S NOT LISTED, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT IN A FUTURE AGENDA.

OKAY.

COOL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU.

AND WE SAID LAST WEEK THAT WE WOULD HEAR ABOUT THE CALENDAR, THAT OF WHO'S PLAYING? IT'S ON THE, IT'S, YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA.

YES.

UM, OKAY.

I THINK WE CAN, UH, MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THE NEXT ONE.

UH, THANK YOU, ERICA.

THANK YOU, ERICA.

I THINK YOU'LL BE BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS AGENDA ITEM, UM, UPDATE ON MUSICAL

[4. Update on musical performances at Music Commission meetings, Shelbi Mitchell, Program Coordinator, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]

PERFORMANCES AT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.

SHELBY HEL, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.

ED UM, SO YEAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

UH, JUST, UH, SHELBY MITCHELL HERE, PROGRAM COORDINATOR WITH THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

JUST WANTED TO OFFER AN UPDATE, UM, SINCE WE LAST SPOKE, I KNOW THAT WE TRIED HARD TO GET LIVE PERFORMANCES HERE.

WE WERE WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD ON THAT.

UM, IT CAME DOWN TO US TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH THE LIBRARY, UH, CENTRAL LIBRARY.

THEY WERE ALREADY BOOKED THREE MONTHS OUT, SO WE WERE BEHIND THERE, BUT WE ALSO CONNECTED WITH THE CITY HALL TO LOOK AT 2024.

UM, AND THEY LET US KNOW THAT WE SHOULD NOT ANTICIPATE, UH, TO HAVE STAFF HERE IN THE EVENINGS, UM, AS THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SERVE US THERE.

BUT, UM, I HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE.

UM, I WAS ABLE TO BE CONNECTED WITH A TXN, UM, THE MANAGER THERE, UM, BURTON, UH, FITZSIMMONS.

AND HE WAS REALLY EXCITED TO, UM, EXPLORE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY BUILD CONTENT, CREATE CONTENT.

UM, WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK DISTRICT TO DISTRICT AND FEATURE ARTISTS IN EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS, BUT CREATE ACTUAL CONTENT THAT THEY CAN USE THAT WILL BE EVERGREEN, AND ALSO ALLOW THEM A CHANCE TO HAVE INTERVIEWS AS WELL.

AND SO, BURTON AND I TALKED ABOUT PRE-RECORDING, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SET UP WITH THESE ARTISTS INTENTIONALLY, UM, AND ALSO CREATE ANOTHER SPACE TO DO THAT.

SO IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT LOOK CUTE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.

UM, BUT ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I'M OPEN.

WE'RE OPEN TO, UM, TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN DEVELOP THIS IDEA.

IF YOU HAVE MORE IDEAS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.

UH, WE REALLY WANNA MAKE BRINGING MUSIC, AT LEAST TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.

UM, BUT WHATEVER WE DO, UM, I WANT IN 2024 TO ACTUALLY HAVE PLANS AROUND THIS AND GUIDELINES HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL.

SO, YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING.

ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

THANKS.

UH, FOR THE UPDATE, SHELBY, UM, I, I HAVE, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER.

UH, DAVILA.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, ON THIS LAST SHOW, WELL, THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TODAY, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO GET ALL OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND THEN BOOK THE GROUPS? 'CAUSE LIKE ON THIS LAST ONE, UH, I DIDN'T FIND OUT REALLY, UH, UNTIL LAST WEEK SOMETIME.

AND I HAD ALREADY GOTTEN SOME PEOPLE AND I HAD A MM-HMM.

DEAL WITH THE RADIO STATION WHERE THEY WERE GONNA PROMOTE IT.

AND THEN NOTHING.

YOU KNOW, I, I GET A NOTE THAT IT SAYS THAT IT WAS GONNA, UH, BE RESCHEDULED OR, YEAH.

AND WE'RE SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE JUST DISCOVERED THAT THIS WEEK.

UM, LIKE YOU, WE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE.

YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, WE JUST NEED TO GET EVERYBODY HERE.

UM, I HAD

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ONE MORE CONVERSATION WITH THE MANAGER HERE AT CITY HALL, AND WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WE JUST CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UM, AND SO FOR 2024, WE WANNA PLAN AND GET ALL OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT REALLY DOPE.

THAT'S MY WORD.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND JUST CREATING CONTENT, AND I THINK OUR TEAM HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WE WANT A CALENDAR.

UH, WE WANNA GET PEOPLE IN LINE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, GET THEM PAID, AND ACTUALLY GET, LIKE I SAID, QUALITY CONTENT.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND, WE CAN START THOSE CONVERSATIONS NOW.

BUT I THINK IT WILL ALL FALL ON THE CAPACITY, THE AVAILABILITY, AND THE BANDWIDTH OF THE A TX IN TEAM.

IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IDEA, COULD WE, UM, CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S PREDICTABLE? BECAUSE I MEAN, IF WE, IF EVERY DISTRICT, EVERY COMMISSIONER IS, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST ASSUMING THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND BOOKING SOMEBODY, UM, UH, IT'S JUST A LITTLE ROUGH TO BACK OUT ON ARTISTS AS WELL.

LIKE WE HAD TO THIS WEEK.

YEAH.

UM, BECAUSE EVERY COMMISSIONER HAD REACHED OUT TO ARTISTS ALREADY AND TOLD THEM THAT THEY WERE PLAYING HERE.

SO, YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THERE JUST WASN'T ENOUGH A TX IN STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AT SIX 30 AT NIGHT.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH ALL THE PEOPLE YOU'VE LINED UP, INCLUDING FOR YOU, LEONARD, IS LET'S BOOK THEM AS A TX.

AND IT'S SUGGESTING, AND IT COULD BE AT A DIFFERENT SPACE HERE.

THAT'S REALLY COOL.

AND IT TURNS INTO A REALLY GOOD THING, YOU KNOW, PIECE OF CONTENT LIKE SHELBY WAS SAYING.

AND THEN THEY STILL COME TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION AS A GUEST.

WE PLAY THE, WHAT WAS PRODUCED BY A TXN, AND THEN WE DO A Q AND A WITH THE ARTISTS IN PERSON.

OR THEY CAN BE ONLINE JUST LIKE WE WERE DOING DURING THE PANDEMIC.

SO THAT, AND WE COULD PROBABLY ROLL THAT OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.

IT'S JUST GETTING THE FIRST BAND PRODUCED AND GET THEM IN THE STUDIO TO, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, GET THE LIST OF THE 13.

IT WOULD BE 13, RIGHT? WITH THE MAYOR? CORRECT.

IS IT 12? 12? I'M JUST, IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK ALREADY.

IT'S MONDAY.

UM, ANYWAY.

YEAH.

1111.

THANK YOU.

.

EXCUSE ME.

SO GET, LET'S GET THEM.

UH, GIVE ME, GET SHELBY ALL THE NAMES SO THAT WE CAN START ADVANCING WITH A TX IN ON RECORDING.

AND THEN WE CAN SET UP LIKE, SCHEDULE IN, WHEN THEY DO THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.

ERIC, UM, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE LIBRARY DOWN SO THAT, UH, QUARTERLY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EVENTS UP THERE AT, AT THE, AT THE LIBRARY? I THINK QUARTERLY WOULD BE TOUGH BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR US.

MM-HMM.

TO ADVANCE ALL OF THAT, UH, WITH THE LIBRARY AND PAY THE ADDITIONAL STAFF.

'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ON THE TOP OF A TXN.

BUT MY SUGGESTION, IF WE WANTED TO HAVE ONE BIG LIVE BLOWOUT OF A BUNCH OF BANDS AND SAY WE DO IT ON THE ROOFTOP AT THE LIBRARY, OR ANOTHER COOL LOCATION THAT CITI OWNED, MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT ONCE A YEAR AS AN ANNUAL EVENT WHERE BANDS ARE HIGHLIGHTED FROM ALL 11 DISTRICTS, UH, AND REALLY MAKE IT GOOD.

MAKE IT, UH, AND 'CAUSE I THINK IF QUARTERLY IS JUST TOO, TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO DO IT WELL, UH, BECAUSE WE WANNA SERVE THESE MUSICIANS, UH, IN THE BEST WAY WE POSSIBLY CAN.

SO STILL DO THE CONTENT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT GETS RECORDED AT THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE CONVENIENCE OF BOTH THE BANDS AND A TXN BOOK THEM IN, STILL DO THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS, THEY GET PAID FOR THAT, AND THEN THEY GET PAID FOR THIS ANNUAL BLOWOUT AND THAT WE CAN COORDINATE WITH YOU GUYS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN HELP ASSIST WITH.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLER? YES.

DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? I, I DO.

THIS IS, UH, A WEIRD QUESTION.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO TALK TO THE STAFF THAT'S LIKE RUNNING THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW? IS THAT, IS THAT ALLOWED OR ARE THEY HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT BURTON FITZSIMMONS, WHO'S HIS BOSS, WHO GOT IT, MAKE THE ONE, BUT HE, BUT YOU COULD ASK TO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE BURTON'S DONE SOME AMAZING WORK WITH US UHHUH, UM, BOTH AT THE LIBRARY WITH NOTES AND TIME THAT THAT'S BEEN REVIVED, AND THAT'S, ALL OF THOSE EPISODES ARE IN THE CAN.

OKAY.

AND THEN WITH THE LIBRARY ROOFTOP SERIES, WE DID THAT.

UH, AND SO BUR I WOULD, YOU KNOW, ASK IF BURTON CAN COME AND YOU CAN PEPPER HIM WITH QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS.

OH, I, I, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS.

THE, SO, UH, FROM, FROM A, FROM A LIVE PERFORMANCE STANDPOINT, AND I'M, AND I'M ALL FOR WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.

I'M JUST THINKING LIKE, AND BLESS YOU, IF SOMEONE, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT WAS, , UH, IF, IF, UH, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME KINDA LIVE PERFORMANCE ASPECT AT THE MUSIC COMMISSIONS, WHICH, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL IDEAS CONTINUING THAT, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF A TXN IS, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, CAN I SAY TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM OR SOMETHING? COULD WE LIKE HIRE

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LIKE A LOCAL SOUND COMPANY TO DO SOMETHING? OH, HOLD ON.

COULD WE, UNFORTUNATELY, NO.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HIRE REALLY GREAT QUALIFIED FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR DECADES AND YEARS.

AND SO, UH, THIS IS CITY HALL EQUIPMENT, THIS IS ALL, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS THEIR PURVIEW, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S ABOUT THREE CITY STAFFERS THAT RUN ON THE PRODUCTION TEAMS, RIGHT.

THAT ARE NEEDED TO SURE.

QUICKLY LOAD THEM IN AND LOAD THEM OUT.

UM, SO I, AGAIN, CAN'T SPEAK FOR BURTON MM-HMM.

, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE HIRE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO HAVE THE QUA THOSE YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, LIKE, LIKE, IT WOULD BE LIKE A, LIKE A, LIKE A SOUND BUSINESS THAT MAYBE THEY'RE A VENDOR FOR CITY ALREADY.

WE'VE, FOR OUTSIDE THINGS KIND OF THING.

THINGS YEAH.

WE'VE DONE IT FOR, WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR FOR TO LOAD IN ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS LIGHTS.

YES.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WE HAVE NON-CITY, YOU KNOW, FOLKS ON OUR LIST, OUR MASTER AGREEMENT TO DO THAT.

UHHUH , THAT'S WHAT WE USED AT, WITH OUR SIDEWALK SERIES THAT WE DID, UH, WITH TRAMMELL CROW, UH, THIS LAST YEAR.

UM, AND SO WE HAVE TO USE THAT PARTICULAR GROUP SURE.

THAT LIST.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

BUT FOR HERE IN CITY HALL, THAT THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY'RE USED.

THEY WOULD BE USED WHERE YOU'RE BRINGING IN EVERYTHING.

UM, BUT THEY COULD BE IS ALREADY CITY IF THEY'RE ON THE MASTER LIST, THEY COULD BE USED CITY HALL THOUGH.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

I HAVE NOT, I DO NOT KNOW.

YOU CAN TALK THAT SIMMONS QUESTION FIT SIMMONS.

LET'S JUST SAY I'VE NEVER SEEN, UM, AN OUTSIDE GROUP WORK WITHIN CITY HALL.

OKAY.

AND THE, I THINK, AND THE END OF THAT QUESTION WOULD BE LIKE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST RUN A LINE OUT FROM A BOARD TO A FEED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT THE SOUND THERE? IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A LIVE STREAMING OF THE COMMISSION.

SURE.

AND SO THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF PLAYING DURING A MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

MM-HMM.

OR A CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS THAT IT'S SIMULCAST LIVE ON A TXN.

AND SO THERE ARE IS, YOU KNOW, PROCEDURES.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT SOMEONE IN THE BACK.

YOU HAVE THREE PEOPLE OUT FRONT AND SOMEONE IN THE BACK, IN THEIR, IN THEIR SOUNDBOARD ROOM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

DOING STUFF.

SO IT'S A, JUST LIKE, IT WOULD BE AT ANY PRODUCTION FACILITY.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. PATON.

YOU HAD RAISED YOUR HAND EARLIER.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UH, SO I WANTED TO THANK, I KNOW SHELBY HAS REALLY, UH, RUN AROUND A LOT TO TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AND I KNOW YOU'RE JUST AS DISAPPOINTED AS WE ARE.

SO THANK YOU FOR WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THE LOGISTICS.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF DOING SOME PRE-RECORDED CONTENT, AND I DO THINK THAT CAN BE A, YOU KNOW, A NICE ENVIRONMENT FOR MUSICIANS AND, UH, SO YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT BALL ROLLING.

AND I MEAN, IF IT WORKS FOR THE STAFF TO DO, YOU KNOW, THREE BANDS AT A TIME OR KNOCK IT ALL OUT IN A WEEK OR WHATEVER.

YEAH.

LIKE THE COMMISSIONS, I'M SURE WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HELP FACILITATE ALL OF THAT SCHEDULING.

SO PLEASE LET US KNOW WHAT THEY TELL YOU, AND THEN WE CAN, I MEAN, WHO KNOWS, LIKE MAYBE WE COULD GET EVERYTHING RECORDED IN JANUARY, RIGHT? READY TO KNOCK OUT.

YEP.

UM, HAVE 'EM HANDY.

I'M EQUALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA OF, UH, A SINGLE LIVE EVENT THAT I THINK, UM, IF THAT'S A ROOFTOP EVENT AND IT'S OUTDOORS, WE MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT SPRINGTIME FOR THAT.

MAYBE EARLY MAY.

WELL, IF, IF I MAY, I AM STILL THINKING ABOUT IT AS WELL.

IT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA OF MINE, MY PERSONAL AGENDA.

OKAY.

SO I WILL BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF SOMETHING COULD WORK, BUT I WANTED TO JUST BRING THIS OPPORTUNITY SO WE CAN GET JUST THE HEART OF THE MUSIC HERE AND THE MEETING WHILE STILL HAVING THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

UM, I THINK IT WAS A MATTER OF AVAILABILITY WHEN IT CAME TO THE LIBRARY.

WE WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT SHORT ON THAT, SO MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE LATER IN 2024.

BUT, UM, I'LL STILL BE WORKING ON IT FOR SURE, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK OFFLINE OR JUST MEETING TO MEETING AS WE DISCOVER MORE THINGS.

BUT FEEL FREE TO SEND OVER ALL THE PEOPLE.

UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THEM IN LINE.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S ABOUT THE CAPACITY, AVAILABILITY AND BANDWIDTH.

UM, JANUARY AND THEN SOUTH BY, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, PRETTY BUSY FOR THEM.

BUT IF WE CAN GET THEM THOSE NAMES, WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW.

EX, EXCUSE ME.

UM, MOTION.

AM I ON? OKAY.

UM, WOULD, OKAY.

AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD DO, UH, EACH COMMISSIONER WOULD DO THREE AT A TIME.

SO IS IT GONNA BE ALL YOU CONSIDERING ALL COMMISSION? I THINK WE HAVE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO A TXN TO SEE ALL OF WHAT THEY'RE THINKING AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL CAN COLLABORATE ON.

MM-HMM.

, MAYBE IT'S, UM, IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING INTERVIEWS WITH THESE FOLKS AS WELL, MAYBE WE WANNA GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO ACTUALLY BE DISCOVERED AS ARTISTS, UM, DISTRICT TO DISTRICT, OR IT COULD BE JUST A STRAIGHT MUSIC CONCERT, IF YOU WILL.

UM, FOR THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS WE CHOOSE, UM, TO SHOWCASE AND DISPLAY.

SO I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER

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VILLA.

I THINK IF WE DO PRERECORDED, UH, I, I ACTUALLY LOVE THE IDEA OF DOING A NEW PRERECORDED CONTENT AND, UH, UM, EITHER EVEN HAVING A SMALL INTERVIEW OR HAVING THE ARTISTS HERE.

UM, AND, UM, UM, IF, IF WE ARE DOING PRERECORDED CONTENT, I, I THINK WE COULD EVEN JUST GO ONE, ONE DISTRICT AT A TIME IN BEFORE EACH, UH, COMMISSION MEETING, JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE.

IT'S JUST THAT THIS TIME IT WOULD BE A BRAND NEW CONTENT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY CATERED FOR THIS.

AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

YEAH.

ALSO LOVE, UH, UH, DOING THE, UH, MAYBE ONCE A YEAR CONCERT RIGHT.

UH, WITH 11 ARTISTS MAYBE.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S FANTASTIC.

THE, UH, AN INSPIRATION THAT KIND OF COMES TO MIND THAT'S QUIRKY AND FUN AND CERTAINLY GROWN IS LIKE THE TINY DESK SERIES.

OH, YEAH.

OH YEAH.

TRUE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT IN DIFFERENT PLACES TOO.

UHHUH.

SO, UH, ANOTHER THING IS, LIKE I SAID, WE CAN JOURNEY THROUGH VENUES.

UM, BURTON WAS JUST SO, HE WAS SO RECEPTIVE AND HE JUST GAVE US ALL THOSE IDEAS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL GO BACK AND TALK TO HIM AND SEE EVERY POSSIBLE THING THAT WE COULD DO SO I CAN BRING IT TO Y'ALL AND WE CAN FLESH THIS THING OUT AND MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE ACTUAL LIVE MUSIC AT THE MEETINGS.

BUT YEAH, IT'S, UH, IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND I'LL MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE Y'ALL ALONG THE WAY.

I REALLY THINK THIS IS A, A REALLY DOPE THING, , BUT YEAH, IT'LL BE GOOD FOR Y'ALL AND THE ARTISTS AS WELL.

SO IT'S GOT A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO BE REALLY BENEFICIAL.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT, UH, I LIKE ERICA'S IDEA ABOUT THE END OF THE YEAR, KIND OF BASH AND ALSO SHELBY, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO THAT.

IT'S, UH, OF COURSE I'M EXCITED ABOUT, UH, POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT ARTISTS, UH, GET REPRESENTED AND ALSO THEY GET TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A MUSIC COMMISSION HERE THAT'S THERE TO SUPPORT THEM.

AND I THINK THAT WAS A, THAT'S PART OF THE GOAL, I BELIEVE, TO LET PEOPLE, MUSICIANS KNOW, HEY, WE'RE HERE.

WE'RE, THERE'S A COMMISSION HERE TO HELP YOU OUT.

AND SO I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING THEM BE PRESENT, EVEN NOT MAYBE A PRERECORDED SESSION, A MUSIC, BUT ALSO JUST BEING ABLE TO, UH, COME IN, UH, AND, AND JUST HANG WITH US.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

GONNA SEE HOW THIS, ALL THIS WORKS.

REALLY IMPORTANT.

SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU, COMM.

THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, COMMISSIONERS ONLINE? THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING, SIR.

HARD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION

[5. Discussion on Live Music Fund Event Program following update by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division.]

ITEMS FIRST, AGENDA ITEM IS DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, FOLLOWING UPDATE BY ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, EDD OH MAN.

AGAIN, ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSEUM ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.

SO WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR CURRENT PROGRAM THAT'S RUNNING RIGHT NOW.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 368 AWARDED APPLICATIONS, AND YOU CAN NOW DOWNLOAD THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAMS AWARD LIST FROM OUR WEBPAGE.

UH, HERE'S A LINK AS WELL FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE LIST.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE MOST UPDATED SUMMARY DASHBOARD OF DEMOGRAPHICS ALSO ON THE WEBPAGE.

UH, THAT GIVES YOU NOT JUST DEMOGRAPHICS, BUT A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT TYPE OF AWARDS, WHAT KINDS OF PROJECTS, UH, ACROSS THE 368 AWARDED APPLICATIONS.

UH, THERE'S A PRESS RELEASE SUMMING ALL OF THIS UP THAT WENT OUT, UH, IN NOVEMBER.

AND THERE'S A LINK THERE, UH, THAT LINKS TO THE EDD PRESS SECTION OF THE WEBSITE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO JUST SOMEONE TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE.

MOST OF THE FIRST PAYMENTS ARE OUT.

WE HAVE A FEW STRAGGLERS THAT WE HAVE BEEN BEGGING.

PLEASE GET BACK TO US WITH STUFF, UH, THAT HAPPENS WITH EVERY PROGRAM THEY HAVE BEEN CONTACTED.

IT'S JUST TRYING TO GET THE FOLKS TO SEND US WHAT THEY NEED TO SEND US.

UH, VERY FEW, LIKE FOUR OUT OF 368, 5.

UH, SO MOST OF THE FIRST PAYMENTS ARE OUT.

THAT WAS 50%.

THE SECOND PAYMENT IS 40% OF THE TOTAL AWARD.

SO, SO FAR WE HAVE 42 SECOND PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID.

13 MORE SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER, BUT MORE COMING IN EVERY DAY.

PEOPLE SEND IN THEIR PROJECT BUDGET AND THE STUFF THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO DAILY, AND KIM CHECKS EVERYTHING OUT AND LETS THE LONG CENTER KNOW, OKAY, THEY'RE READY FOR THEIR PAYMENT.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE PROCESSES FOR PAYMENTS, JUST AS A REMINDER TO YOU GUYS AS YOU'RE ADVISING, UH, COMMUNITY AND AS WELL FOR ANYONE WATCHING.

UH, THESE ARE THE STEPS FOR YOUR SECOND PAYMENT.

FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND, YOU HAVE TO COMPLETE THE PROGRESS REPORT TO GOOGLE FORM.

AND THE LINK IS THERE, DOWNLOAD, AND YOU CAN EDIT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO UPDATE THE, UH, THE BUDGET SPREADSHEET.

AND YOU CAN TAKE THINGS AWAY.

YOU CAN CHANGE WORDS, WE DON'T CARE.

JUST SHOW US HOW YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY SO FAR AND USE THE BUDGET TO YOUR BENEFIT TO SEE HOW THESE BUDGETS WORK, HOW MANY TICKETS TO SELL OUT.

YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE WAYS TO ADD OTHER REVENUE STREAMS BESIDES THE GRANT, JUST TO, TO MANAGE THE PROJECT.

WE'RE JUST REALLY CONCERNED WITH HOW YOU'RE SPENDING THE AWARD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO SEE.

BUT

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THAT ALL THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS ARE THERE TO HELP THE AWARDEES, UH, MANAGE THEIR PROJECTS.

AND THEN ALSO, SO ONCE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, DONE THE GOOGLE FORM AND IT JUST IS AUTOMATIC, YOU SEND, UH, KIM THE PROJECT BUDGET AFTER IT'S DONE, SHE CHECKS ANYTHING OVER.

SHE'S BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE THAT DAY OF LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, I STILL NEED THIS OR I NEED THAT.

UM, AS SOON AS WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED, WE LET THE LONG CENTER KNOW, AND THEN THEY START THE PROCESS OF, UH, QUEUING UP THAT PAYMENT.

SINCE THE FIRST PAYMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO GET THE PAYMENT DONE.

SO IT COULD BE VERY QUICK TURNOVER TO GET THAT PAYMENT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SAME THING WITH FINAL, UH, 10% OF THE ABOARD WE'VE HAD 10 SO FAR.

SO 10 FOLKS ARE COMPLETELY DONE WITH THEIR CONTRACT, WITH THEIR AGREEMENT AND THEIR PROJECT.

SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR FINAL PAYMENTS, AGAIN, COMPLETE THE NEXT FORM, WHICH IS THE FINAL REPORT, AND THEN JUST UPDATE THE LAST BUDGET YOU DID WITH MOST UP-TO-DATE NUMBERS.

PEOPLE BEEN SAYING, OH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TICKETS I'VE SOLD YET, OR, I DON'T KNOW.

I WAS LIKE, WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THAT.

THAT'S JUST FOR YOUR BENEFIT TO KEEP TRACK OF THINGS LIKE THAT RELATED TO YOUR PROJECT.

WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS HOW THE FULL, UH, 100% OF THE AWARD WAS SPENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS FINAL PROJECT BUDGET IS FOR.

EVERYTHING IS EXPLAINED IN THE AWARDEE INSTRUCTIONS.

UH, AND THEN ALSO FOR THIS 10%, WE WANNA SEE YOUR FINAL MARKETING PLAN.

VERY EASY TO USE.

JUST FILL IT OUT.

YOU CAN EDIT IT ANY WAY YOU WANT TO MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU.

JUST LET US KNOW HOW YOU PROMOTED THE PROJECT TO POTENTIAL TOURISTS AND AUDIENCE ALL OVER.

UM, AND SO THAT'S BEEN VERY, UH, SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE SENDING THAT TO US.

AGAIN, IT GOES TO KIM.

SHE CHECKS EVERYTHING OVER.

SHE LETS THE LONG CENTER KNOW THEY'RE READY.

AND SO WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD PROCESS OF, UH, GETTING THIS DONE, AND IT'S JUST BEEN KIND OF FLOWING PRETTY WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY.

SO ANY ASSISTANCE, THESE ARE THE THREE CONTACTS.

AS A REMINDER, CONTACT THE LONG CENTER WITH ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR GRANT AGREEMENTS OR PAYMENTS.

CONSIDER THEM KIND OF LIKE THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, OUR ACCOUNTANTS, TO HELP FACILITATE THE AGREEMENTS AND GETTING PAYMENTS OUT.

CONTACT KIM WITH ANY QUESTIONS AROUND GUIDELINES AND REPORTING THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS REQUIRED OF THE GRANTEES.

SHE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, AND THEN GREG GONZALEZ, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO I DO THIS? I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M HAVING A PROBLEM GETTING THIS ONE ELEMENT OF MY PROJECT DONE.

I NEED SOME PROFESSIONAL, JUST SOME ADVICE OF NEXT STEPS.

HOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UH, PLEASE CONTACT GREG GONZALEZ.

HE'S HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU ANY KIND OF BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE USED, UH, IN MUSIC INDUSTRY PROJECTS.

AND SO THOSE ARE YOUR THREE, UH, CONTACTS FOR ASSISTANCE.

UM, AND OF COURSE I'M AVAILABLE ANYTIME AS WELL.

UM, YOU CAN GET TO US THROUGH THE WEBPAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS ERICA@AUSTINTEXAS.GOV AS WELL.

SO, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, IKA.

UM, QUESTIONS, UH, ONE QUESTION.

HOW HAVE, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ALL NIGHT.

UM, HOW HAVE, UH, HELPFUL HAVE THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS BEEN IN ASSISTING WITH THESE APPLICATIONS? SO COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS WORK WITH APPLICANTS, NOT AWARDEES.

SURE.

OKAY.

ONCE THEY'RE AWARDEES, THEY, WE WORK WITH THEM DIRECTLY IF IT'S AROUND THEIR PROGRAM.

AROUND THEIR PROGRAM.

OKAY.

AROUND THEIR PROJECT.

UH, THE LONG CENTER WILL WORK WITH, WITH THEM AROUND JUST GETTING THE NECESSARY MATERIALS IN PLACE FOR AGREEMENTS AND PAYMENTS.

THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS HELP WITH APPLICANTS.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON HOW THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS HELP WITH APPLICANTS? UH, WELL, FOR NEXT YEAR, NO.

FOR THIS YEAR.

UH, WELL, WE, WE HAD SEVERAL THAT DID ASSIST APPLICANTS.

UH, ESPECIALLY, UM, T UH, I FORGOT THE NA NAME.

TALA, TEXAS ACCOUNTANTS LAWYER FOR THE ARTS? NO, NOT TALA.

OH, OKAY.

A RA, YES.

A RA.

OKAY.

UH, AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY.

AUSTIN RESOURCE.

AUSTIN REVITALIZATION AUTHORITY.

I SAID, I TOLD YOU, IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG MONTH OF TWO, FOUR DAYS.

UM, AND SO SHE WAS AMAZING.

SHE HELPED SO MANY OF OUR APPLICANTS WITH, YOU KNOW, JUST GETTING REGISTERED, GETTING INTO THE SYSTEM.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO PROGRAM GUIDELINES, WHETHER IT'S APPLICATIONS OR AWARDEES, WE, YOU COME TO US TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROGRAM, THE REASON, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE LOTS OF, UH, COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS AND ASSISTANCE FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AROUND THE TOOL ITSELF OR THE APPLICATION PORTAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION ACTUALLY, ABOUT THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS.

DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF LIKE, HOW MANY OF THE AWARDEES, UH, USED THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR SERVICES? I'M NOT QUITE SURE.

I, I KNOW WE HAVE A TALLY SOMEWHERE.

IT WASN'T A HUGE AMOUNT.

I MEAN, IT WAS FOR A RA MM-HMM.

, IT WAS A HUGE AMOUNT.

SHE HELPED SO MANY PEOPLE WITH THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF JUST GETTING, YOU KNOW, REGISTERED AND INTO THE SYSTEM.

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UM, IT COULD HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS.

AND THEN WE HELPED HUNDREDS AS WELL WITH THOSE TECHNICAL ASPECTS.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN ANYTHING WITH PROGRAM GUIDELINE ASSISTANCE, IT WAS EITHER KIM OR GREG OR MYSELF.

UH, AND THEN WE MAY HAVE HAD A FEW PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY APPLIED TO COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THAT APPLICATION, WHICH YOU HAD TO APPLY TO BE, YOU KNOW, APPLY TO THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM AND THEN GO APPLY TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR THAT YOU HAD ALREADY APPLIED FOR.

SO THAT WAS A MUCH SMALLER GROUP.

UH, 'CAUSE WE WERE FOCUSED REALLY ON THE TECHNICAL COMPONENTS OF GETTING INTO THE SYSTEM AND THEN JUST EXPLAINING THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

AND HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE BILLING FROM THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS? DO THEY, ARE THEY LIKE ON RETAINER ESSENTIALLY, OR SEPARATE? ARE THEY BILLING BY CONTRACTS? THEY'RE SEPARATE, YEAH.

SEPARATE CONTRACTS WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIED TO IT.

AND THEN THERE'S AN HOURLY RATE THAT JUST GETS SUBTRACTED WITH AS THEY HELP PEOPLE THAT'S LOGGED.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT'S HOW THEIR CONTRACTS ARE SET UP.

OKAY.

SO THEY JUST, I, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE LIKE A SPEC SPECIFIC CONTRACT AMOUNT, AND SO THEN THEY JUST SUBMIT THEIR HOURS.

RIGHT.

FOR THAT.

AND HOW WERE THE, THE, THE APPLICANTS THAT USE THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS, HOW DID THEY BECOME CONNECTED TO THEM? DID THEY FIND THEM ON THEIR OWN OR WERE THEY DIRECTED BY STAFF OR, IT WAS THROUGH OUR WEBSITE.

IT WAS PART OF WHEN THAT INFORMATION, I DON'T THINK IT'S THERE ANYMORE, BUT FOR APPLICANTS, THERE WAS A LIST OF BULLETS TO CHECK, BUT THE MAIN COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR WE, UH, LISTED WAS A RA IN TERMS OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

UM, BUT WE DID MENTION YOU COULD GET A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR TO, FOR APPLICATION ASSISTANCE FOR OTHER TYPE OF ASSISTANCE, JUST MUCH MORE INTENSE.

ONE-ON-ONE ASSISTANCE OF LIKE, HELP ME THROUGH EVERY STEP OF DOING THIS.

AND, UM, AND SO IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PAGE, YOU CAN TELL BY JUST READING ABOUT THEM WHERE YOU KIND OF FIT, LIKE WHICH ONE WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR YOU.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT, UH, APPLICANTS DID WHO WANTED THAT MORE ONE-ON-ONE ASSISTANCE.

AND SO, UM, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON THAT NEXT TIME SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, NOT USE MY MEMORY THAT IS FAULTING, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW.

SO.

AND PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

YEAH.

WHICH WOULD JUST, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE, UH, OR I MEAN, EVEN JUST IN TERMS OF HEARING FROM APPLICANTS, LIKE HOW THEY FELT LIKE THAT IMPROVED THEIR SUCCESS RATE.

OH, YEAH.

AND I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, LIKE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR ANY PROGRAM YOU LEARN AND YOU IMPROVE.

AND THAT'S THE SAME SITUATION WITH ANY NEW ROLLOUT, ANY NEW LAUNCH, UH, WITH OUR COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS, THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS THAT, AND THIS WILL BE PART OF THE DATA COLLECTION THAT WE DO OF LIKE, WHAT WAS HELPFUL, WHAT WASN'T, WHAT COULD BE MORE HELPFUL.

UM, AND COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS ARE PART OF THAT EQUATION OF HOW WE CAN, UH, DEPLOY THEM IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY OR A WAY THAT IS MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST BETTER COMMUNICATION TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO COMMUNITY, THAT THAT'S AN AVAILABLE RESOURCE.

UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO, I MEAN, I, THE CONCEPT OF THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS IS GREAT AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN IT AND ASKING ABOUT PROGRESS ON IT BEFORE.

MM-HMM.

.

SO JUST CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY IS USING THE PROGRAM.

AND THEY'RE STILL AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE TO ALSO ASSIST WITH OTHER GRANTS.

IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST CITY GRANTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LOOK AT THOSE RESOURCES.

UM, YOU COULD GO TO, YOU KNOW, JUST ATX MUSIC.ORG.

I'LL ALWAYS PUSH YOU GUYS BACK THERE.

MM-HMM.

AND CLICK ON RESOURCES ON THE FUNDING RESOURCES.

AND THERE'S A LINK TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESOURCES STILL AVAILABLE BESIDES GRANTS THAT HAVE CLOSED, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

AND THEN I HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION THAN I'LL, I'LL YIELD, SO ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

BUT CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, LIKE, I GUESS JUST ANECDOTALLY ABOUT SOME USES OF THE FUNDS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE AWARDS THAT YOU THINK ARE PARTICULARLY EXCITING OR SURPRISING OR, I, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO NAME NAMES.

I MEAN, I THINK EVENTUALLY WE PROBABLY WILL BE SEEING A LIST OF SEEING SOME GREAT COLLABORATION THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED OTHERWISE.

MM-HMM.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, A CLASSICAL MUSIC, UH, OUTFIT, WORKING WITH AN R AND B ARTIST, FOR INSTANCE, AND CREATING SOMETHING COMPLETELY NEW.

SO WE'RE SEEING RECORDS BEING MADE, WE'RE SEEING, UM, COMMUNITY EVENTS HAPPEN IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN DISTRICTS, AND WE'RE SEEING GOOD OLD FASHIONED VENUE SHOWS.

UM, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, AS WE HAD DISCUSSED EARLIER, THAT THE FACT THAT THE RISK IS KIND OF ALLEVIATED AND THAT THERE'S ACTUAL INVESTMENT IN THIS INDUSTRY'S AN INVESTMENT IN YOUR BUSINESS AND INVESTMENT IN THIS SECTOR, UH, IS BEING USED IN SUCH A WAY, I THINK, SO THAT EVERY DOLLAR IS WELL USED.

UH, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS A FANTASY OF ANY MUSICIAN OR ANY PROMOTER TO BE LIKE, OH, IF I ONLY HAD X AMOUNT OF MONEY, THIS IS WHAT I

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WOULD DO.

AND SO YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF WHAT WOULD THEY DO? AND PEOPLE ARE DOING A LOT OF GREAT STUFF.

UH, AGAIN, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR THEY FEEL LIKE I'M AT A STOPPING POINT, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT, PLEASE CALL US, CALL GREG.

WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU, YOU WITH, TO ACT, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT PRACTICAL ADVICE TO DO THE ADVANCEMENT, LIKE TO ADVANCE THESE PROJECTS SO THAT THEY HAPPEN AND THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL.

SO YOU'RE NOT IN IT ALONE.

WE HAVE LOTS OF SUPPORT TO HELP PROVIDE THE, WHATEVER YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW THIS WORKS OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND IF YOU FEEL STUCK, YOU KNOW, JUST PLEASE CALL US OR EMAIL US.

LET US KNOW.

I THINK THIS WAS ASKED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, BUT WILL, UH, LIKE A CALENDAR OF EVENTS BE PUBLISHED, THAT'S THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM THAT'S ON ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM.

NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT THEN.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION COMMENTS? SO JUST QUICKLY, THE, THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS, THEY, THEY ACTUALLY HELP WITH THE GRANT WRITING PROCESS ITSELF, RIGHT? THEY CAN, YEAH.

IF IT'S WITH LIKE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THAT WAY, BUT YES, IF YOU APPLY TO THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM, AND THEN YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE A NAVIGATOR, ONE WILL BE ASSIGNED TO YOU, THEY WORK WITH YOU VERY ONE-ON-ONE ON ANYTHING YOU NEED.

AND IT COULD BE A GRANT APPLICATION TO THE STATE OF TEXAS OR THE FEDERAL GRANT OR WHATEVER, OR A CITY GRANT.

UM, AND SO I HAVEN'T SEEN EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT THE STEPS ARE, WHAT THAT WORK HAS BEEN, BECAUSE THEY ARE THIRD PARTIES THAT DO THIS WORK.

WE CONTRACT THEM.

WE DON'T TELL THEM HOW TO DO THEIR JOB.

WE JUST TELL THEM WE HIRE, YOU KNOW, WE HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE TO DO THE WORK, UH, IN THEIR SCOPES OF WORK.

SO, YEAH, BECAUSE DEFINITELY, UM, SOME OF, SOME OF MY MUSICIAN FRIENDS, UH, YOU KNOW, OR COLLEAGUES, UH, THEY WERE KIND OF EITHER THEY PARTICIPATED IN SOME GRANT WRITING EXERCISES OR, YOU KNOW, GOT ONE-ON-ONE HELP AND, YOU KNOW, SAID THEY COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT, UH, THAT KIND OF ASSISTANCE.

AND I BELIEVE IT WAS FROM ONE OF THE, UH, NAVIGATOR GROUPS.

IT'S ANECDOTAL, BUT DEFINITELY I'VE I'VE HEARD THAT.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, ONLINE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, ERICA.

UHHUH .

NEXT

[6. Discussion on all ages shows and how we support youth in Austin.]

TOPIC OF THE AGENDA IS, UH, DISCUSSION ON ALL AGE SHOW, ALL AGES SHOWS, AND HOW WE SUPPORT YOUTH IN AUSTIN.

UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA, DID YOU WANNA TAKE THAT? OR COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? I, I HAVE ONE THING.

I HAVE ONE THING.

I HAVE, UM, LIFE HAS GOTTEN THE BEST OF ME AND I, OOPS, LET'S SEE.

LIFE HAS GOTTEN THE BEST OF ME AND I HAVEN'T, UM, FOLLOWED UP ON THIS.

SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND AND I KIND OF TAG TEAMING ON THINGS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THE BATON TO HIM.

I DID ONE NOTE, UM, THAT I, I, THAT THING THAT IS NOTEWORTHY, UH, AS I REFLECT UPON THE FIRST TIME THAT WE DISCUSSED OUT LOUD HOW WE COULD SUPPORT YOUTH IN AUSTIN AND ALL AGES SHOWS, I REALIZED WE'VE HAD PROBABLY FIVE JOURNALISTS, WRITERS, UM, REACH OUT TO EITHER MYSELF OR COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND TO DISCUSS THIS, WHICH I THINK IS VERY INTERESTING WHEN THE PUBLIC AT LARGE OR WRITERS ARE REACHING OUT AND SAYING, LET'S DIG DEEPER ABOUT THIS.

LIKE, SOMETHING OUT THERE IS, UM, KIND OF SHAKING LOOSE AND PEOPLE WANNA, UM, INVESTIGATE THESE ISSUES MORE.

AND SO I I FIND THAT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE MEDIA AND THEY DON'T REALLY WANNA COVER WHAT IT IS THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

SO I, I'M VERY DELIGHTED.

UH, THE, AND I, I THINK, UM, THREE OF THE JOURNALIST, UM, WRITERS WERE ACTUALLY FROM UT AND SO THAT REALLY IS SOMETHING UNIQUE AND SPECIAL THAT, UM, THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, WITH GREAT IDEAS AND FRESH ENERGY ARE, UM, ARE INTERESTED IN THE SUBJECT.

YEP.

SURE.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE ONE KIND OF IMPORTANT THING, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REPORTER, UH, ONE OF THE REPORTERS, UM, THIS, THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, A YOUNG WOMAN, SHE WAS ASKING US A FEW QUESTIONS AND, AND CELESTE KIND OF, UM, WAS, WAS CLARIFYING THIS AND IT, AND IT'S TURNING INTO MORE OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT CULTURE AND, AND, AND, AND CULTIVATING, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, DARE I SAY A, BE A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR, FOR, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER A THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF AUSTIN AS A, AS FOR, FOR THE MOST PART.

AND SO I'VE KIND OF BEEN TAKING THAT BATON AND, UM, I'VE GOTTEN A FEW VAGUE RESPONSES.

WE'VE, WE'VE SET UP A FEW MEETINGS.

UH, I'M NOT GONNA NAME THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO ON, ON AIR, BUT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO THIS.

AND I DO KNOW THAT VISIT

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AUSTIN IS ON MY LIST OF PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO AS WELL.

AND I'VE ALSO, UM, REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT IRONIC, INTERESTING CHURCHES THAT ARE KIND OF INTERESTED IN THIS, THIS WHOLE THING AS WELL.

SO, UM, JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK GET MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO GO TO THEM AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT.

WE WANT TO, WE WANT THEM TO, WE WANNA LISTEN TO THEM.

AND, AND, AND, AND REALLY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A LOT FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL IN AND, YOU KNOW, OR THEY, OR THEY'RE HERE AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THEY WANT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING BOOKED OR, YOU KNOW, OR HAVING BETTER REPRESENTATION AS, AS, AS, AS THIS DEMOGRAPHIC IS MOSTLY REFLECTIVE IN TERMS OF AGE AND, AND, AND WHATNOT.

AND, AND IT'S VERY KIND OF ENLIGHTENING AND IT'S A BRAND NEW AREA TO, TO, UM, UH, JUST TO, JUST TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUNGER THAN US ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE WANTING BECAUSE IT'S VERY, IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT, I THINK, THAN, THAN WE WOULD EXPECT.

AND, UM, SO I, I LOOK, THESE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED.

UH, THEY ARE HAPPENING.

I MEAN, IT'S BEEN THANKSGIVING AND SO I'M HAVING THESE MEETINGS NOW BEFORE SCHOOL IS OUT.

AND SO I'LL HAVE, UM, A LOT MORE TO REPORT ON THAT, UM, COME NEXT MONTH.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, HAS TO DO WITH, UH, THE REPORTERS, BUT, UM, WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR THE STATESMEN WHEN THEY, UH, ARE TALKING ABOUT CD RELEASES AND, UM, 'CAUSE WE HAD CALLED TO TRY TO FIND SOMETHING.

I'VE NEVER GOT, NEVER GOT A RESPONSE.

SEVERAL CALLS.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW, WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR THEM TO RECOGNIZE LOCAL GROUPS? UH, AS FAR AS WHEN THEY HAVE A CD RELEASE OR A ALBUM RELEASE OR, UM, IT, IT COMES OUT IN THE PAPER AND, UH, I JUST DON'T, UH, NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET THEM.

ACTUALLY, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALL ENGLISH , BUT A LOT OF IT HASN'T BEEN BECAUSE OF THE MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET, TRYING TO GET OUR MUSIC RECOGNIZED OR TALKED ABOUT IN, IN, IN THE NEWSPAPER.

IS THERE, UH, SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S HOLDING THAT BACK? COMMISSIONER DILLA? UM, I WOULD REQUEST, WITH ALL YOUR RESPECT TO, UH, UH, STICK TO THE, OKAY, WELL, THE TOPIC.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD, UH, A LINE ITEM FOR THIS? UM, YES, I WOULD THE MEETING, YES.

I WOULD, UH, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS? YEAH.

AND THAT'S THE REASON I ASKED IF I DIDN'T KNOW TO, AND IF IT RELATES TO THIS AGENDA, BY ALL MEANS.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE, UH, CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER , JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I DON'T WANNA OPEN UP, I WANNA STICK TO THE AGENDA AS WELL.

YES, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

UM, UH, I THINK IT IS, UM, WE, WE LIVE IN A CHALLENGING TIME RIGHT NOW, AND I'M, UM, AND, AND IN TERMS OF LISTENING TO THE ALL AGES SHOWS, I THINK THAT OUR, UM, OUR MEDIA AND OUR PRESS OUTLETS ARE, ARE CHANGING.

AND SO, UM, IT IS, UH, EXTREMELY MURKY WATERS TO NAVIGATE IN.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT I IMPLORE EVERY ARTIST AND MUSICIAN, WHATEVER AGE, SPECIFICALLY THE YOUTH TO, UM, TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO, UM, NAVIGATE THROUGH, UM, PRESS IN THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A, IT'S, UM, INTERESTING TIMES THAT WE, WE LIVE IN THERE.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO COVER THINGS.

OFTENTIMES IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO BANDWIDTH AT, AT TIMES.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER .

COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL AGES SHOWS AND GETTING PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDER 21 ACCESS TO MUSIC, BUT IN RESPONSE TO WHAT OUR, UM, COMMUNITY SPEAKER WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, YES.

AGING MUSICIANS.

YES.

NOT HAVING ACCESS TO MARKETS.

YES.

AND YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF SOCIAL MEDIA THESE DAYS.

LIKE HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU, LEONARD, YOU ASKED A VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

YOU'RE A VETERAN.

THE THINGS THAT, THAT IT TOOK FOR YOU TO GET YOUR RECORD HEARD EARLIER ON, DON'T APPLY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL AGES, MAYBE LET'S REALLY TALK ABOUT ALL AGES.

JUST AN I JUST AN IDEA.

NO, IT, IT DEFINITELY STRUCK A CHORD RIGHT IN THE BEGINNING WHEN, UH, UM, MISS EZ, UH, SPOKE TO THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I THINK THE, THE, THE, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S INTERESTING HOW WE DEVELOP AND DEFINE, UM, THE, THE, I LOVE, UM, USING OUR, OUR WORDS AND VOCABULARY TO ARTICULATE WHAT WE TRULY MEAN.

THAT'S SUCH A HEALTHY EXERCISE.

WHAT'S

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FASCINATING IS WHEN SOME AGES ARE NOT ALLOWED, ARE, ARE BASICALLY DISCRIMINATED TO NOT GO TO A SHOW BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL.

SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S MURKY WITH ALCOHOL RULES.

SO, BUT IT'S FASCINATING.

I LOVE DIGGING DEEP INTO THOSE THOUGHTS, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

UH, WELL, I, I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE, ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ALL AGES VERNACULAR THAT WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY GONNA TURN MORE INTO, UH, DARE I SAY LIKE ACCESSIBILITY FOR MUSIC AS, AS, AS A WHOLE.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE CAN THAT IT'S GONNA, THAT, THAT IT'S GONNA OPEN.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHICS BASICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, THAT ARTISTS SUCH AS, LIKE MYSELF OR I MEAN ANYONE THAT, ANY ONE OF OF US HERE, LIKE, I MEAN, WE HAVE THESE, UH, DARE I SAY, IT'S LIKE YOU PLAY WEST OF 35, OR DO YOU PLAY EAST OF 35? JUST, LET'S JUST TAKE THAT FOR, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT? LIKE, IF YOU GO EAST OF 35, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, , YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE EITHER BE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN EMOS OR SOMETHING OR WHATEVER, OR YOU CAN GO WEST AND YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, TRY AND HIT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAXON PUB OR FOREST CENTER OR ANY OF THESE PLACES.

DO YOU WANT A SIT DOWN THING OR DO YOU WANT MORE OF THIS? IT, IT'S, AND, AND THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS, WEST AND EAST ARE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY DIFFERENT.

AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ALL AGES THING, WE HAVE A, AN OLDER DEMOGRAPHIC THAT'S OVER HERE ON THE WEST SIDE.

WE HAVE A MUCH YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC THAT'S OVER HERE ON THE EAST SIDE.

THERE'S PROBLEMS OVER HERE IN TERMS OF ACCESSIBILITY, BUT THERE'S ALSO PROBLEMS OVER HERE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, KIDS LITERALLY CAN'T GET INTO SHOWS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS STUFF THAT'S RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PARAMOUNT AND STATE AND, AND, AND A FEW OF THESE VENUES IN THE MIDDLE WHERE IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF A BAG OF MIXED NUTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE SHOWS ARE OFTENTIMES EXPENSIVE AND THEN THE YOUNGER CROWD CAN'T AFFORD IT.

SO LIKE, THERE'S DEFINITELY LIKE THIS HUGE SORT OF CULTURE DIVIDE THAT'S IN AUSTIN, EVEN THOUGH AS LIBERAL AS AUSTIN IS, AS, AS A, AS A, AS A AS A CITY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THESE, UM, THESE, THESE BARRIERS THAT KEEP, YOU KNOW, THESE COMMUNITIES SEPARATE.

AND I THINK THAT ONE THING THAT WE'RE UNCOVERING AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND ALSO EXPLORING CELESTE AND I IS, IS, UH, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA LIKE SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH A MAGIC WAND OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S, BUT, BUT IT'S, HOW CAN WE, UM, I GUESS MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING SOMETHING OR BRINGING SOMETHING, AT LEAST BRINGING SOMETHING TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT AND SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS? LIKE, WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT T THAT TABC CAN POSSIBLY DO? WHAT IS IT THAT VENUES WOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER? IS, ARE THERE EARLIER SHOWS THAT VENUES COULD HAVE? HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST? IS THAT PART OF A LIVE MUSIC FUND THING? LIKE, I MEAN, ALL THESE, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE WHAT WE'RE SORT OF TALKING ABOUT HERE.

I THINK IT'S AN OVERALL OVERARCHING THING.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, ARE WE TALKING A WORKING GROUP HERE? UH, NOT YET.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

NOT YET.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING ON.

THE

[7. Discussion following update on calendar for Live Music Fund awardee events.]

NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM IS DISCUSSION FOLLOWING UPDATE ON CALENDAR FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND AWARD EVENTS.

UM, DOES STAFF HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE HERE? SHELBY OR KIM? YES.

HELLO AGAIN.

ERIC HAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER.

UH, SO WE ARE WORKING, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, OR IS FOR, IS THE VISIT AUSTIN EVENTS CALENDAR.

THE DEAL IS, IS THAT OBVIOUSLY NOT EVERY LIVE MUSIC FUND PROJECT IS AN EVENT.

SO THE GOAL IS TO GET ONE PLACE WHERE WE CAN TRACK, YOU KNOW, THOSE EVENTS.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING IT THROUGH VISIT AUSTIN.

WE DON'T HAVE A WAY, WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE, VISIT AUSTIN WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR EVENT, THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE A CULTURAL FUNDER UNDER MUSIC, HERITAGE, OR ARTS, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO DO THAT PUBLIC FACING YET.

AND SO THAT'S PART OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH VISIT AUSTIN, UH, IS TO SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE AND THAT INVOLVES SOME CODING AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING, THAT'S OUR FIRST HOPE OF A VERY EASY WAY FOR ANY COMMISSIONER TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN THESE EVENTS ARE COMING.

UM, OUR OTHER THING IS JUST SCRUBBING WHEN THINGS ARE CONFIRMED

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AND TRYING TO FIND THAT FOR YOU.

THEY ARE, UH, REQUIRED TO USE MARKETING MARKS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED BY THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT LOGO.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON A EASIER WAY TO KIND OF COLLECT ALL OF THAT, ALL THOSE EVENTS MONTHLY SO THAT YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH.

AND SO STILL WORKING ON IT.

I KNOW WHAT, UH, KAT HAS AN EASIER TIME BECAUSE TYPICALLY A LOT OF THEIR PROJECTS ARE KNOWN IN TERMS OF THE DATE AND THEY CAN PUT THE DATE ON THEIR APPLICATION.

MUSIC'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY CONFIRM OR PUT HOLDS DOWN UNTIL YOU KNOW YOU HAVE SOME FUNDS.

AND SO IT TAKES TIME TO GET THINGS COMPLETELY LOCKED DOWN AND CONFIRMED.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT NOW IS HOW TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GET REGULAR UPDATES FOR WHEN'S YOUR EVENT, LET US KNOW WHEN YOUR EVENT IS.

UH, AND SO I WISH WE, I HAD SOME BETTER, YOU KNOW, TOOLS FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY WORKING ON IT.

THANK YOU, IKA.

SO MAYBE, UM, REQUESTING AN EVENT DATE WHEN IT GETS FINALIZED COULD BE PART OF JUST THE REQUIREMENTS AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? I MEAN, OH YEAH.

GIVE LIKE THE, OH, WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE SUGGESTED.

WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU PUT IT INTO THE VISIT AUSTIN WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS TEAM.

IT IS A REQUIREMENT AND FOR US, 'CAUSE WE HAD THE BUDGETS AND THE MARKETING AND ALL OF THIS, UH, WE MADE IT A, A REC A STRONG RECOMMENDATION.

AND SO HINDSIGHT'S 2020, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE.

UH, BUT IT'S STILL A LOT OF, BECAUSE THE EVENTS ARE GETTING CONFIRMED ALL OVER THE PLACE IN DIFFERENT WAYS, IT'S STILL KIND OF A BEAR TO BE ABLE TO GO LOOK AND SEE, DID YOU PUT IT INTO THE VISIT AUSTIN BEFORE YOU GET A PAYMENT? AND SO, 'CAUSE WE WERE REALLY MORE FOCUSED ON GET US WHAT WE NEED SO THAT WE CAN GET A PAYMENT TO YOU.

SO.

RIGHT.

I THINK ONCE CONFIRMED, IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO JUST PUT THAT INTO THE SYSTEM, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE, UH, COMMISSIONER KE AND LET US KNOW IT IS TO THEIR BENEFIT TO LET US KNOW ABOUT YOUR EVENTS WHEN THEY'RE CONFIRMED SO WE CAN BLAST IT, NOT JUST YOU GUYS AND US.

SO YEAH, I WONDER AS LIKE A PLACEHOLDER, UM, THAT THERE'S, UM, LIKE A HASHTAG OR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA COULD USE.

JUST, YOU KNOW, AND THEREFORE IF IT'S LIVE MUSIC, YOU KNOW, JUST A HASHTAG OH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

LIKE HASHTAG LIVE MUSIC FUND.

YEAH.

AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, THEN THIS YEAR, THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, SOMETHING, YEAH.

2023 SOMETHING.

AND THEN WE COULD THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

WE'RE ABOUT TO DO A, YOU KNOW, JUST A ANOTHER.

'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE WITH ALL AWARDEES ON A REG ON A SOMEWHAT REGULAR BASIS, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO DO ANOTHER ONE.

SO HAPPY TO ADD THAT IN THERE.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

OKAY.

AND UH, ERIC, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE VISIT AUSTIN SITE RIGHT NOW.

MM-HMM.

AND THERE'S A MUSIC SECTION AND YOU CAN FILTER THINGS MM-HMM.

YOU CAN FILTER BY DATE.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN ATTRIBUTE THAT WOULD ALLOW TO SAY, SHOW ME THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FUNDED.

YEAH.

OR SHOW ME THE CITY OF AUSTIN CULTURAL, YOU KNOW, UH, FUNDERS AND THEN SHOW ME THE MUSIC ONE.

SHOW ME THE ARTS ONE.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING.

BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOU GUYS WOULD WANNA SEE COUNCIL AND SO, BUT IT IS A PROCESS TO GET THOSE TYPES OF WEBSITE CHANGES MADE.

YEAH.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE, THE FACILITY'S ALREADY THERE NOW TO ACTUALLY ALSO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY INPUTTING THEIR DAY, THEIR INFORMATION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, WE'RE IN TECH, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON .

YEAH.

AND WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT THAT HAVEN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR SECOND PAYMENT YET.

WHEN YOU HAVE AROUND 53 THAT HAVE THEIR SECOND PAYMENT AND ONLY 10 THAT HAVE FINISHED.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 300 LEFT THAT, UM, YEAH.

HASHTAG LIVE MUSIC.

AWESOME.

LIVE MUSIC FUND 2023.

UH, ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THIS INTERIM IN THIS YEAR, JUST TO KIND OF GET THE WORD OUT AND GET SOMETHING DONE AND THEN WE WILL, UH, MAKE IT MORE OFFICIAL AS PART OF THE PROCESS NEXT TIME AROUND.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, HIGHLIGHTING, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DONE WITH THESE FUNDS, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE SUCH A WIN.

AND I THINK THAT'S, OH YEAH, THAT'S, UM, AND ALSO, UH, GIVING THEM ALL YOUR EMAIL ADDRESSES, NOT YOUR PERSONAL ONE, YOUR, YOUR COMMISSION EMAIL ADDRESSES, WHICH ARE ON THE WEBSITE, UH, FOR THE MEMBER ROSTER, THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

UM, WE WILL GIVE THE, THAT LIST TO EVERYBODY AND THEN AT LEAST THEY CAN PUT YOU ON EMAIL LISTS OR HOWEVER, IF THEY'RE USING EMAIL, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO DO.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

COMMISSIONER, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YEAH, IT'D BE GREAT TO ANNOUNCE AT THE TOP OF, UH, COMMISSION MEETINGS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, YEAH.

COMING UP.

EVENTS ARE HAPPENING THAT, THAT MONTH COMING.

ALRIGHT, DEFINITELY.

GREAT.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? ERICA? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MM-HMM, .

UM, THE NEXT TOPIC

[8. Discussion on economic impact of and funding for Red River Cultural District following update by Nicole Klepadlo, RRCD Interim Executive Director.]

ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON ECONOMIC IMPACT OF AND FUNDING FOR RRCD.

FOLLOWING UPDATE BY NICOLE , UH, RRCD, INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

UH, SHE,

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UM, COULD NOT, UH, UH, SHE'S, SHE'S NOT WELL AND COULDN'T MAKE IT IN TODAY.

UH, AND CHARLOTTE, DID YOU WANNA YEAH, I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS QUICK CONTEXT AND, UH, YEAH, I'LL, SHE'LL COME BACK IN JANUARY.

YEAH.

SO NICOLE'S GOT ONE OF THE MANY VIRUSES THAT ARE, UH, CIRCULATING THROUGH AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, SO SHE WAS DISAPPOINTED NOT TO BE ABLE TO COME, BUT, UH, I'LL JUST TEE THIS UP AND WE CAN HAVE HER IN JANUARY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S ON HER MIND.

SO RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, UM, IS ONE OF THE CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN AUSTIN.

IT'S A, YOU KNOW, COLLECTION OF LIVE MUSIC VENUES THAT'S UNIQUE, UH, IN THAT SENSE IN AUSTIN.

AND IT'S BEING A DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

UM, IT HAS A, YOU KNOW, SOME SPECIFIC CHALLENGES INCLUDING THE, UH, POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA.

AND, UM, SO THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO PRESERVE LIVE MUSIC VENUES, HOW TO, UM, PROVIDE POTENTIAL FUNDING, UH, FOR THAT DISTRICT.

THE WAY THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER DISTRICTS IN AUSTIN THAT RECEIVE FUNDING, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE CULTURAL ARTS AND LIVE MUSIC FUND GRANTS, THEY RECEIVE FUNDING.

AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC, UM, IMPACT OF THAT DISTRICT.

UH, NICOLE HAS HAD SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COULD WE, COULD THE CITY COMMISSION A A STUDY FOR THAT SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT ON TOURISM AND, UM, HOW THAT IMPACTS, UM, THE HOT FUNDS THAT COME IN AND, UM, TOURISM DOLLARS.

SO THAT'S, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHEN, UH, NICOLE COMES BACK.

SHE DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION, SHE CAN SHARE IT IN THE MEANTIME, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.

UM, SO THAT'S A, WHAT, THAT'S A LIKE A PREVIEW OF, OF WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M, I'M SURE NICOLE WILL WATCH THE MEETING AND OR SHE MAY BE WATCHING, WATCHING NOW, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, ANY SORT OF LIKE SPECIAL STATUS FOR THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT OR HOW THAT WOULD WORK, UM, WHAT'S THE ASK? UH, SO I THINK I'LL, NICOLE WILL COME AND TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT.

SURE.

BUT, UM, THERE IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT'LL BE HAPPENING AND LIKE A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, UHHUH .

SO IT COULD BE, UM, COMMISSIONING A FINANCIAL IMPACT STUDY, OR IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOME SPECIFIC FUNDING FOR THE DISTRICT THAT'S, UM, ALIGNS WITH SOME FUNDING THAT OTHER DISTRICTS RECEIVE.

OKAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL, RIGHT.

AS A, YEAH.

SO I THINK WHAT WE MIGHT WANNA, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A, WE HAVE THIS AS A DISCUSSION ITEM TONIGHT, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THIS AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WE MIGHT MOVE IT INTO AN ACTION ITEM SO WE COULD THINK ABOUT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

UM, SO YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT DISTRICT? DID ANYBODY WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, SHARE HOW THEY FEEL? LIKE? I DON'T KNOW.

I'M, I'M, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE COMMISSION I I, I'M TERRIFIED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN RED RIVER, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I'M ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED ABOUT IT.

I, I, I'VE, I'VE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S AN, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, IT WAS A MEL IT'S A MELTING POT OF CULTURE FOR ONE THING.

AND I MEAN, ALBEIT IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, GENTRIFIED TO ALL GET OUT, IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS HUGE MELTING POT OF CULTURE THAT IF WE LOSE TWO CONDOS AND STARBUCKS AND, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER TARGET AND A WHOLE FOODS AND A WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MUSIC IS JUST GOING TO, I MEAN, CULTURE'S GONNA SUFFER THERE FOR ONE THING, BUT THEN, I MEAN, OUR ALL AGES AGENDA THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS NOT GONNA BE SUSTAINABLE AT ALL.

AND, UM, THOSE VENUES ARE GONNA GO AWAY, WHICH MEANS THAT BANDS THAT ARE JUST STARTING OUT CAN'T PLAY HERE ANYMORE, WHICH MEANS THEY ALL HAVE TO PLAY ELSEWHERE, EITHER OUT OF TOWN OR ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS NOT FULLY SUSTAINABLE AT ALL.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TERRIFYING WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

UH, I CONCUR, UM, THAT IT'S VERY, UM, DISTRESSING WHAT I HEAR FROM CERTAIN INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, COLLEAGUES THAT ARE, UM, CONSIDERING BIRTH BOOKING VENUES, UM, IN THE FUTURE FOR THINGS LIKE SOUTH BY OR SOMETHING.

AND, UM, SO BIG FISH ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH THIS AREA.

AND I THINK, AGAIN, THAT WE NEED MORE, UM, TRANSPARENCY WITH WHAT THE ISSUES ACTUALLY ARE.

AND I THINK WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION OR AGENDA ITEM AND WE CAN REALLY SAY SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME REAL FACTUAL KIND OF, THIS

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IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, THERE'S NO, LIKE, ALMOST LIKE, WHERE'S THE SCIENCE AND THE DATA AND THE FACTS BEHIND, NOT JUST LIKE, I'M GETTING THIS GENERAL SENSE, BUT THE, THE REAL, LIKE, NO, THIS IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN AND IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AS A CITY.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY IN THAT AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE EIGHTIES.

AND SO IT'S DEFINITELY, UM, A CULTURAL AND HISTORIC DISTRICT FOR MANY PEOPLE.

SO I'M VERY, UM, I THANK YOU FOR, UM, SPEAKING TO THIS TONIGHT, DESPITE HER NOT BEING, YOU KNOW, FEELING UNWELL AND LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHERING THE CONVERSATION AND SHEDDING SOME LIGHT AND TRANSPARENCY AS TO EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AL.

THANKS, UH, MR. PATERSON, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, DO YOU HAVE FURTHER COMMENT? 1, 1, 1 OTHER COMMENT? I DO, I JUST, I WANNA MAKE, I JUST, I, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THIS, OUR MUSIC COMMISSION, WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME, UM, BEING VERY, YOU KNOW, REACTIVE TO THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND, AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT NOW, UM, SEEING THAT, I THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TURNING INTO A COMMISSION, THANK GOODNESS THAT THAT IS, THAT IS SORT OF GETTING AHEAD OF THINGS AS, AS, AS THINGS ARE GOING.

AND, UM, AND I, I, I BELIEVE I WOULD NOT PUT IT PAST ME TO, TO BET ON PEOPLE OUT THERE SHORTING THE STOCKS ON WHETHER OR NOT VENUES ARE GOING TO FAIL, OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER PANDEMIC THAT'S COMING, OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER ECONOMIC CRASH THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AND WHAT THOSE PEOPLE WITH THESE BIG DOLLARS ARE GONNA DO WHEN IT DOES.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE DEI, WE'VE BEEN BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT DEI, DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION ALL NIGHT LONG, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT PRESERVATION, INNOVATION AND ELEVATION THAT IS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO MOVE THE, THE, THE BALL FORWARD AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE BETTING ON THE FACT THAT THESE VENUES OR THAT THE SIDE OF TOWN BASICALLY IS GONNA FAIL, THAT HOPEFULLY WE'RE A SAFEGUARD FOR THAT NOT HAPPENING.

WE'RE PROTECTING THESE COMMUNITIES.

AND SO I VERY MUCH AM LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, THIS, THIS TALK ON RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

UH, COMMISSIONER PATON.

YEAH, SO I JUST HAD ONE MORE COMMENT ON THAT, AND I'M SO GLAD THAT COMMISSION'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SO RECEPTIVE TO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.

BUT THAT THIS IS ALSO, UM, IT'S ALSO A ZONING ISSUE AND, UH, THE LAND USE WORKING GROUP WILL HAVE DONALD JACKSON FROM EDD, WHO'S BEEN WORKING ON, UM, ZONING AMENDMENTS THAT COULD HELP, UM, ENCOURAGE CULTURAL DISTRICTS AND SPECIFIC ZONING FOR LIVE MUSIC VENUES.

HE'LL BE GIVING US A PRESENTATION ON DECEMBER 14TH JUST TO THAT WORKING GROUP.

SO I'LL COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE ABOUT THAT.

BUT THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT IS DEFINITELY A, AN AREA LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SIXTH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW VERY, LIKE, THAT, THAT ZONING CATEGORY CAN VERY MUCH HELP DETERMINE AND THE FUTURE OF THAT, UM, THAT DISTRICT AND OTHER AREAS IN TOWN, AND WHAT DEVELOPER INCENTIVES COULD BE OFFERED TO HELP, UH, ENCOURAGE LIVE MUSIC VENUES.

AND THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, STREAM ROYALTY WHO OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTIES ON SIXTH STREET, ALSO OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTIES ALONG RED RIVER.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR REAL ESTATE PLAYERS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO KEEP, UH, LIVE MUSIC IN THOSE AREAS.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SCOTT SPOKE TO THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE, THE BIG PLAYERS, UM, THAT'S GONNA HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE LAND USE PART OF THAT TOO, NEXT WEEK OR NEXT MONTH.

WELL, I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE LEARNING THAT ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER BECAUSE IT'S, UM, I THINK IT SEEMS WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE MADE, LIKE, WELL, THESE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THEY GET THE CONTRACT AND THEN SOMETHING CHANGES AND THEREFORE THEY SCRAP THAT OR THEY SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.

WHAT THE CITY'S ALREADY BLESSED.

AND SO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING, UM, SOLIDIFIED DESPITE WHATEVER THE CHANGES ARE.

LIKE IT HAS TO BECOME KIND OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NUANCE AT ALL.

I'M SO GLAD YOU DO OR LEARNING DIVING IN, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, HITTING IT HEAD ON BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, IT HAS NOT GONE PAST ME THAT, UM, THAT THE WORD STREAM STREAM DEVELOPMENT HAS COME UP IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UM, OFFLINE CONVERSATIONS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, I THINK THERE, THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO THIS IS ONE IS THE

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PRESERVATION ASPECT OF IT, UM, RIGHT, AS TO WHETHER IT'S SIXTH STREET OR RR CD.

UH, AND THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT IS, AS THE CITY GROWS AND SOME OF THE CHANGES INEVITABLY HAPPEN, HOW DO WE KEEP MUSIC AS STRONG OR EVEN GROW MUSIC WITH THE GROWTH, QUOTE UNQUOTE GROWTH, UM, THAT WE ARE SEEING, UM, IN THE CITY, RIGHT? SO I FEEL LIKE IT HAS TO BE A, A TWO-PRONGED THING WHERE THERE'S A PRESERVATION ASPECT, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT MUSIC HAS SPACE AND IT LIVES ON AND IT GROWS, UM, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WILL INEVITABLY SEE.

SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON FOR FILLING IN.

PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR, UH, THE PRESENTATION FROM NICOLE AND, UH, WE'LL, UH, PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR JANUARY.

UM, MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND

[9. Discussion and possible action on recommendation for Austin Record Convention subsidies from the City of Austin.]

POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION FOR AUSTIN RECORD CONVENTION SUBSIDIES FROM THE, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF AN UPDATE HERE, PLEASE FILL IN.

UH, IF NOT, I THINK, UM, WE DID SEE THE NOTE FROM, UH, MR. ERS.

YEAH.

SO, UM, I, NATHAN DID WANT TO COME, I THINK HE'D REACHED OUT TO THE CITY STAFF AND WAS HAVING DIFFICULTY MAKING THE CONNECTION.

AND ERIC, I, YOU WEREN'T HERE AT LAST, LAST MONTH'S MEETING, SO WE NEED TO GET THE TWO OF YOU TOGETHER AND LET'S JUST MOVE HIM FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK.

HE'S DOING SOME REALLY AWESOME THINGS.

HE HAD A FANTASTIC PRESENTATION.

FANTASTIC.

HMM.

I EMAILED HIM TODAY.

GREAT.

AGAIN.

OKAY.

LET'S GET THE TWO OF YOU TOGETHER AND THEN WE CAN GET ONE IN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK, UH, FOR THE JANUARY AGENDA.

UM, AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, NATHAN BACK HERE, UM, MOVING

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

ON TO FUTURE, UM, AGENDA ITEMS. UM, WE'LL, UH, PUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS UPDATE BACK IN FOR JANUARY.

UM, ERICA, WOULD YOU HAVE, UH, UH, ANOTHER UPDATE ON THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE ELIGIBILITY IN JANUARY TO SHARE? SHOULD WE, UH, PUT THAT BACK IN AS WELL? THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW YET.

I MEAN, I, MAYBE WE'LL LEAVE IT ON THERE FOR NOW.

YEAH.

UM, UPDATE ON MUSICAL PERFORMANCES.

WE'LL LEAVE THAT ON, UH, DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM FOLLOWING UPDATE, ERICA, WE'LL LEAVE THAT ON DISCUSSION ON KNOWLEDGES, WE'LL LEAVE THAT ON.

UM, WE'LL LEAVE THE, UH, CALENDAR UPDATE FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENTS, IF THERE ARE.

IS ANYTHING FURTHER THERE TO SHARE? UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, STATES DISCUSSION ON ECONOMIC IMPACT OF, UH, FOR RRCD.

DO WE WANNA MOVE THIS TO POSSIBLE ACTIONS? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.

SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RECOMMENDATION ON RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT ECONOMIC IMPACT AND FUNDING FOLLOWING UPDATE BY NICOLE.

YES.

RRC? YES.

OKAY.

UM, SO THAT MOVES UNDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO LEAVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RECOMMENDATION FOR AUSTIN RECORD CONVENTION SUBSIDIES FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, COMMISSIONER DAVILA, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANY ITEM OR, UH, TABLE IT FOR A FUTURE? YES, YES, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TALK ABOUT, UH, PROBABLY MISS, UH, MISS MISSPOKE OR SAID SOMETHING WRONG BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS THAT EVEN YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE PUTTING OUT MUSIC CANNOT GET ANY TYPE OF COVERAGE, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TO BRING THAT UP.

UM, SO WHY DON'T WE, JUST TO PUT IT IN, UH, AGENDA LANGUAGE.

WE'LL, UH, CALL THAT A DISCUSSION ON MUSIC JOURNALISM AND ACCESS TO MEDIA COVERAGE IN AUSTIN.

GREAT.

WE GOT IT.

, WAIT, YES.

UH, NO.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

AND, AND ALSO I AND, AND WE'RE ALSO, WE'RE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE, BUT ALSO LET'S TALK, LET'S TALK ABOUT, UH, PEOPLE OF MORE ADVANCED AGES, UH, GETTING ACCESS AS WELL.

SO, UM, SO, UM, JUST FOR CLARITY, UM, IS IT ESSENTIALLY ACCESS TO MEDIA BROADLY? THAT'S THE TOPIC, OR MAYBE IT'S, UH, THIS TOPIC IS IRRESPECTIVE OF AGE GROUPS, .

I DO, I DO AGREE.

UM, THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING SLASH YOU KNOW, THERE MEDIA HAS A POINT A A A PLACE CERTAINLY IN, IN JOURNALISM, AND I'M, AT THE END OF THE DAY WITHIN SOCIAL MEDIA, IT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE INFLUENCERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THAT, TO, TO YOUR POINT OF MEDIA,

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IT IS A BROAD SPECTRUM OF, OF EMBRACING NEWS NOW, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS, UM, AND FOR GETTING YOUR, UM, PRODUCT, SO TO SPEAK OUT THERE.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CRAFTY WAYS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JOURNALISM AND, AND, AND, AND CRITICS WRITING ABOUT YOUR MUSIC, BUT THEN YOU'RE, I THINK THAT THERE'S A TONE OF MARKETING EVENTS AS WELL.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S PRODUCT, IT'S IT'S ALBUM PROMOTION AND, AND, AND WHICH EVENTUALLY TRICKLES DOWN TO TICKET SALES, WHICH IS PRO IT'S, IT'S ARTIST PROMOTION IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF, OR IN ADDITION, IT IS THIS MARKETING PIECE I THINK THAT WE'RE, YEAH, THAT COVERS ALL AGES THAT THE TRULY THE ALL AGES OF, UM, THE TECHNOLOGY, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, SKILL SETS THAT ARE INVOLVED.

RIGHT.

UM, I HAVE, PLEASE, YEAH, SORRY, COULD YOU PLEASE JUST REITERATE YOUR MOTION, UH, YOUR, YOUR AGENDA ITEM? YEAH.

GETTING MOTION.

SO JUST, SO, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL I WILL SET ON THE, ON THE DESCRIPTION.

YEAH.

SO I'LL JUST RESTATE IT, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE SOMEBODY TWEAK THE LANGUAGE ON IT.

UH, BUT WHAT I'VE THROWN OUT WAS A DISCUSSION ON MUSIC JOURNALISM AND ACCESS TO MEDIA COVERAGE IN AUSTIN.

MM-HMM.

, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, THAT WORK.

DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THIS? NO TOPIC.

I'M GOOD.

ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ANY OTHER TOPICS? UM, UH, ANY FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ONLINE HERE? ALRIGHT, LET'S, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THE I DO HAVE OTHER, SORRY.

MY APOLOGIES.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

OKAY, SO NUMBER ONE, LET'S, IT'S, IT'S A NEW COMMISSION MEETING IN, IN, IN, IN JANUARY.

IT'S THE BEGINNING OF, WELL, OUR YEAR, BUT OUR CITY YEAR BASICALLY STARTED IN OCTOBER EVERY MARCH.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UM, CHAIRMAN OL.

BUT EVERY MARCH WE, WE HAVE A, A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TURN INTO COUNCIL.

IS THAT RIGHT? SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT THAT? YES.

IN JANUARY, BASICALLY? SURE.

UM, SO DISCUSSION ON, UM, BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING, UM, LIVE MUS, I MEAN, DISCUSSION ON, UM, JUST MUSIC COMMISSION, ONIONS FOR COUNCIL YEAH.

OR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, COMMISSION BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, MUSIC COMMISSION BUDGET RECOMMENDATION, DISCUSSION ON MUSIC COMMISSION, BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY.

FOR COUNCIL, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S GREAT.

AND YOU ITEM THAT'S FANTASTIC.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE, I HAVE, UH, ANOTHER ONE.

UH, SO THE, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND, AND, AND, AND, AND THE LAW DIRECTS THAT WE ONLY SPEND MONEY THAT IS USED FOR, UM, UH, TO, TO, TO PROMOTE, DIRECTLY PROMOTE, UH, TOURISM IN, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THAT'S HOW IT'S DEFINED BY LAW.

WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF $429,807 IN THE HOT MONEY BUCKET.

THAT'S COULD BE THAT IT'S USED FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND MAYBE WE COULD MAYBE FUDGE THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT COULD IS, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD TAKE THIS MONEY AND USE THAT MONEY FOR LOCAL SHOW PROMOTION? LIKE LITERALLY TAKE THAT MONEY AND SAY, HEY, OMO, LAST MOVIES IS PLAYING AT SAXON PUB.

COULD WE GET THAT MONEY FROM THE CITY? OR COULD WE GET THAT MONEY FROM THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION OR SOMETHING TO PROMOTE THAT SHOW? SECOND, UM, HOW DO YOU DEFINE WE, WHEN YOU SAY WE GET THAT MONEY, WHO, UH, THAT WOULD THAT BE THAT, UH, COULD CUOMO'S LOST MOVIES, AND I'M JUST USING YOUR NAME AS A, AS AN EXAMPLE, COULD CUOMO'S LOST MOVIES SOMEHOW, UM, GET FUNDING FROM THE CITY TO ADVERTISE THAT SHOW SEPARATE FROM THE LIVE MUSIC, SOME LIVE REQUEST FUNDS FOR MARKETING REQUEST FUNDS? BECAUSE THE CURRENT GRANT ALREADY INCLUDES MARKETING EXPENSES.

TRUE.

IT DOES.

YES.

YES.

BUT SO THIS IS ALMOST LIKE EXCLUSIVELY FOR MARKETING PURPOSES.

CAN THERE BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION, LITERALLY, RIGHT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, BUT I MEAN, COULD SEPARATE ASK IS WHAT HE'S RECOMMENDING, RIGHT? IT'S A COULD, WE'RE LOOKING AT PO A POSSIBLE BABY GRANT OR A POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW YEAH.

OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT THERE'S $429,000 THAT'S AVAILABLE? COULD THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION POSSIBLY HEAD UP, YOU KNOW, SOME REALLY HUGE ECONOMIC ENGINE, I MEAN, ENGINE FOR PROMOTING LOCAL SHOWS WITH A BARREL OF MONEY TO DO SO? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT THAT IN AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I THINK THAT, SO, UH, HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS,

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UH, COMMISSIONER CLINTON, WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM UPDATE.

ERICA, DO YOU THINK WE COULD, UH, BRING THIS UP WITHIN THAT AGENDA ITEM NEXT ROUND INSTEAD OF HAVING TO ADD A NEW ONE? IT'S STILL, UH, PERTAINING TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

HELLO EVERYONE.

UM, YOU COULD PUT IT IN YOUR BUCKET AROUND BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, BECAUSE THAT MONEY WOULD STILL NEED TO BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO GET ANYTHING.

AND SO THAT DISCUSSION COULD HAPPEN AROUND YOUR BUDGET AMENDMENT RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND JUST NOTE THAT WE DO SPEND MUSICIANS CAN, OR ALL APPLICANTS CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR ALL MARKETING IF THEY WANT.

UM, TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO AN AMENDMENT, WE PUT IT INTO THE OVERALL AWARD BUDGET SO THAT WE HAVE MORE MONEY TO, TO WORK WITH AROUND AWARDS.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, SPEND THAT WE DO WITH VISIT AUSTIN.

AND THOSE ARE NATIONAL DIGITAL CAMPAIGN SPINS WHERE IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WE'LL PROMOTE COMMA LOST MOVIES, UH, YOUR, YOUR TICKET LINK AND SHOW AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND SO, BUT WE DO IT IN NEW YORK OR IN, UH, DIFFERENT MARKETS AROUND UNITED STATES TO HELP REALLY FOCUS ON THAT AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT OF ALL OF THE ARTISTS, UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE JUST PREACHING TO THE CHOIR OF AUSTIN, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO EXPAND THOSE AUDIENCES.

SO WE, WE HAVE A COMMITMENT OF A HUNDRED GRAND A YEAR WITH VISIT AUSTIN TO DO THAT.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

AND, AND, AND I, THE, THE WAY THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT IS IF YOU CAN SPEND ABOUT 400 TO $500 IN ADVERTISING JUST ON SOCIAL MEDIA ALONE, YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO LIKE SELL OUT A PLACE LIKE A 300 OCCUPANCY VENUE OR A ONE 60 OCCUPANCY VENUE, WHICH COULD LOOK REALLY GOOD FOR ATTRACTING OTHER INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS, AGENTS, MANAGERS, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

AND SO IF WE COULD USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO DO THAT.

RIGHT.

AND AS A REMINDER OF TWO, WE ALSO HAVE THOSE MARKETING CLASSES AND YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF THEM, UM, ANY OF THE AWARDEES.

AND WE HAVE ONE ABOUT SEO AND ALSO JUST, UH, OPTIMIZATION AROUND HOW TO GET TO THOSE CONVERSIONS, WHICH IS TICKETS OR T-SHIRTS, THINGS YOU SELL.

UM, SO WE HAVE SOME GREAT CLASSES.

THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO KIND OF PAIR IT WITH THE GRANT SO THAT HERE'S THE MONEY, BUT HERE'S HOW TO USE THE MONEY TO REALLY PROMOTE THAT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND WRAPAROUND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR OUR AWARDEES.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE MORE COULD BE FOCUSED INTO THAT TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO IN YOUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT COULD BE PART OF, LIKE, WE WANNA GET AN AMENDMENT IN PLACE TO FOCUS MORE ON MARKETING, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T BE FOR OUR CURRENT YEAR.

THIS WOULD BE FOR THE NEXT ROUND.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER QUINN.

THANK YOU, ERICA.

UM, SO I THINK, UH, BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE LIVE MUSIC AGENDA ITEM AND THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS ITEM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, UM, DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, UM, WITHOUT, UH, ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE WE VOTE.

UM, ARE, ARE THEY, ARE THEY BRINGING IN, UH, UH, UH, THE, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE WE'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA BRING IN THE, THE ADVISORS OR WHATEVER THE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FACILITATING THE, THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS, NOT THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS.

THE, UM, OH YEAH, THE, UM, THE OUTSIDE.

THE CONSULTANTS.

THE CONSULTANTS, YEAH.

OH, THE CONSULTANTS.

THEY'RE BRINGING THEM IN NEXT MONTH, RIGHT.

UH, ERICA, YOU GUYS, YES.

I WOULD LOVE TO SAY WE'RE NOT BRINGING THEM IN, BUT WELL GO AHEAD.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THEIR WORK, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO, YOU KNOW, YES.

THEIR, THEIR EVALUATION OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

SO COULD THAT BE DISCUSSION, FOLLOWING UPDATE ON, UM, WORK, UH, OR UPDATE ON CONSULTANT WORK? UH, WHY DON'T WE, LET ME, HERE'S A SUGGESTION.

SO I DO THINK MARKETING CAN FALL INTO THE BUDGET ITEM.

YEAH.

SO THAT ITEM I WOULD SAY, WHY DON'T WE, 'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY MAY BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR MID-YEAR, UM, BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

SO LET'S CALL THAT, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON, UM, BUDGET REC MID-YEAR.

LET'S SEE, BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MID-YEAR AMENDMENTS, AS WELL AS PROJECTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25.

AND WE'LL TUCK MARKETING IN THERE AND THEN LIVE IN THIS AGENDA ITEM.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THAT, AND THEN, UM, LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHY DON'T WE CALL THAT DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM? UM, LET'S SEE.

STA WHAT DO WE WANNA CALL THAT? SO YEAH, DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM

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FOLLOWING, WHY DIDN'T WE JUST ADD A SEPARATE ITEM FOR THE CONSULTANTS AND WHERE THEY ARE WITH THE PROCESS? I MEAN, THAT'S FINE.

AGREED.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THIS IS ON THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS WHAT, UH, UH, ERICA IS GIVING US AN UPDATE ON.

SO IF WE CAN JUST TAG ANOTHER ITEM TO THIS DISCUSSION OR, YOU KNOW, STAFF UPDATES, UH, ON, UH, I THINK WE'RE JUST STRUGGLING TO FIND THE RIGHT WORDING FOR IT.

BUT, UH, IF, IF ANYBODY FEEL FREE TO HELP, BUT THIS DISCUSSION ON YEAH.

DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC PROGRAM, UH, DISCUSSION ON LIVE MUSIC EVENT PROGRAM EVALUATION, UH, BY CITY CONSULTANTS.

YEAH.

GOOD.

IS THAT, YEAH.

YEP.

WE'LL, WE'LL GET THE WORDING.

UH, YEAH, WE CAN, AND WE CAN LATER TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT YEAH.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ITEM IS FOR AND, UM, UH, OKAY.

UM, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT MEDIA ACCESS.

THERE WAS STILL AN ITEM AROUND ALL AGES, ESPECIALLY, UM, WITH THE POINT THAT, UM, UH, MS. RAMIREZ RAMIREZ BROUGHT UP IN THE BEGINNING.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WANTED TO ADD TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE TOPIC? OR, OR, UM, SHOULD WE, DO WE WANNA WORK WITH THIS IN JANUARY AND THEN BRING IT BACK IN LATER? UH, WELL, LET'S JUST SEE WHERE THE DISCUSSION LEADS US.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM, RIGHT? YEP.

SO IS THERE A NEW LINE ITEM WE WANT TO ADD WITH THAT? ADD TO THAT? NO, BECAUSE THE ONE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS VERY, UM, I GUESS WE COULD, WE COULD BRING IT IN AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON ALL AGE ISSUES.

IT'S ALL, IT'S ENCOMPASSING THERE, AND THEN WE CAN YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

WORK WITH THAT.

OKAY.

GOOD.

YEAH.

ONLINE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ALRIGHT.

UH, WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO ADD ALL OF THE ABOVE TO THE JANUARY MEETING.

UH, HOW, WELL, HOW MANY IS THAT SO FAR? HOW MANY DID WE COLLECT UP? ABOUT 12, 11, 12.

ANYBODY KEEPING TRACK? I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SHE'S AT.

IT'S ABOUT THAT, THAT AROUND THAT.

THE ITEMS. YEAH, IT'S AROUND THAT.

OKAY.

UH, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE AND I'M SORRY, BUT IT IS GONNA BE A REALLY LONG MEETING NEXT MONTH.

UM, UH, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM.

AND, UM, IT'S, UH, UM, WHO'S IN IT? WHO'S, WHAT'S BEEN SPENT ON IT? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, THE F THE, THE, UH, EFFICIENCY OF THAT? IF YOU COULD JUST WORD THAT IN A WAY THAT YEAH.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE AN ACTION THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S ON THERE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, SO YEAH.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, IS BRING IT, UH, BRING IT UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR JANUARY.

OKAY.

AND IF THERE'S ANY ASSOCIATED ACTION THAT COMES OUT OF IT, WE COULD COME BRING IT BACK IN FEBRUARY SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC ACTION WE WANT TO TAKE.

SURE.

SO DISCUSSION ON COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM CITY AUSTIN.

YEAH.

UM, DISCUSSION ON, YEAH.

FOLLOWING UPDATE, UM, FROM CITY STAFF.

UM, I GUESS FROM, UM, ERICA SHALI.

SURE.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL GET THAT ADDED.

UM, CAN WE MAKE ASATA, OH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UM, ABOUT ALL THE FINAL DATES FOR 2024.

I MEAN, WE KNOW IT'S THE FIRST MONDAY OF EACH MONTH, EXCEPT FOR, FOR INSTANCE, JANUARY IS JANUARY 8TH.

YES.

I THINK SO.

JUST, I JUST WANNA, PERHAPS WE NEED TO POST THAT OR AT SOME POINT WE, I THINK WE AGREED.

WE, IT WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR ONE OF THE PRIOR MEETINGS.

YES.

IT'S ALSO, UH, WE AGREED ON ALL THE DATES, I BELIEVE.

SORRY.

OH, IT, YEAH.

WE SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE POSTED.

I'M USING IT ON THE, I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE WEBSITE 'CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT MY YEAR CALENDAR FOR 2024.

YES.

WELL, IF YOU STILL DON'T SEE IT, JUST REACH OUT TO ME.

I GIVE IT TO YOU.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

I WILL.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

SO THE NEXT MEETING IS, UH, JANUARY 8TH.

MM-HMM, .

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT, WE WILL BE AT CENTRAL PUBLIC LIBRARY.

UM, WE'LL BE IN ONE OF THEIR CONFERENCE ROOMS. NOT AS CUTE AS THE SPECIAL EVENT CENTER, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE WILL MEET NEXT, NEXT MONTH.

SORRY.

MM.

ALRIGHT.

IT'S TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, OKAY.

MOTION THROUGH ASK.

AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE WEBEX, SO YOU, IF YOU WANT TO JOIN, EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY THAT YOU CAN'T OH, YEAH, YEAH.

IT HAS TO BE IN PERSON, SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO STREAM IT LIVE, BUT HAVE THE RECORDINGS AND EVERYTHING TO REFERENCE.

BUT IF YOU WANT BE THERE, BE THERE.

BE SQUARE TO JANUARY 8TH.

JANUARY 8TH.

OKAY.

YES.

UM, THIRD ATTEMPT, UH, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THE ABOUT IS 'CAUSE THE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE JANUARY ALL NEED ALL YOU NEED A SECOND? PARDON ME? ALL YOU NEED IS A SECOND.

AS LONG AS YOU MOTION.

ALL WE NEED IS A SECOND.

YES.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

SECOND.

FROM COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, THE MOTION'S APPROVED.

UH, MOTION TO, WELL, JUST VERY QUICKLY, FIRST OF ALL, I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO, UH, THANK EVERYBODY, UH, FOR THEIR WORK ON THE COMMISSION THIS YEAR.

UH, THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND, UH, FOR THE SUPPORT, UM, FOR MUSIC AND, UH, EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY

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WHO HAS EITHER BEEN FOLLOWING THE ISSUES OR WHO TOOK THE TIME, UH, TO COME HERE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SHARE, UH, UM, THE GOOD AND THE BAD WITH US THROUGH THE YEAR.

UM, AND, UH, SO REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS AGAIN AND STAFF.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, MOTION, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO ADJOURN? I, UM, COMMISSIONER DAVILA? UH, YES.

WHO? SECONDS SECOND.

COMMISSIONER CAZADA SECOND, UH, THE MEETING SESSION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CAN YOU HEAR THE THUNDER? CAN YOU HEAR WIND? WHY YOU BEEN GONE LONG? ME BABY.

WHY YOU'VE BEEN GONE SO LONG.

YOU'VE BEEN GONE SO LONG.

TELL ME BABY, WHY YOU'VE BEEN GONE SO LONG.

NO SCRATCHING AT MY DOOR.

YOU HEAR THAT?