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MEETING, UH,

[CALL TO ORDER]

THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

IT'S DECEMBER 11TH, 2023 AT 6:00 PM AT AUSTIN CITY HALL.

UM, DO WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION BY ANY CHANCE? DO WE? OKAY.

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

UH, WE HAVE, UH, SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UM, LET'S SEE.

WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS.

ARE ANY OF THESE ON AN AGENDA ITEM? A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM? THAT ONE GOT THAT? ANY OF THE OTHER THREE? SO YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF SPEAKING RIGHT NOW AT GENERAL COMMUNICATION OR GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, OR ON THE, UH, THAT AGENDA ITEM AND CHAIR.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON LINE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I CANNOT SEE IF AN OH, HERE, RIGHT HERE.

WE'RE GOOD.

I CAN SEE THIS ONE.

OKAY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S GO TO, DO WE KNOW WHO THE ONLINE SPEAKER IS? YES, I BELIEVE.

OH, YEAH.

LET'S DO ROLL.

SORRY.

THANK YOU.

UH, RYAN CLINTON.

RYAN CLINTON.

NANCY, ER, NANCY, ER.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL KEEP ON, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE NANCY IS IN PRESENT.

LAUREN LOY.

PRESENT.

LATA S MAGULA.

PRESENT.

BEATRICE ES.

HERE.

ANN LINDER.

PRESENT.

DR.

PAIGE NIELSEN.

PRESENT.

WHITNEY HOLT.

WHITNEY HOLT.

OH, I SEE HER COMING IN.

PRESENT.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

LUIS HERRERA.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES.

I TRY EVERY TIME, BUT I ALWAYS, IT'S NOT, NO BIG DEAL.

ALRIGHT.

UH, KRISTEN HASSEN.

KRISTEN HASSEN.

SARAH HUDDLESTON PRESENT.

DR. AMANDA BRUCE HERE.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY.

UH, DO WE WANNA GO TO THE VIRTUAL SPEAKER FIRST IN GEN, UH, GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION? I DON'T HAVE THE NAME.

OH, PAT RES.

PAT, ARE YOU THERE? HI, I AM HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OH, OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, MY NAME IS PAT RES AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE AT THE RECENT RETREAT LAST MONTH, UM, SPENT AS MUCH TIME AS YOU DID, UH, DISCUSSING THE IMPORTANT ISSUES.

AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, STEPHANIE, HAYDEN HOWARD, UM, CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO HAVE YOU DO THAT.

AND, UM, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A, A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION.

UM, I HOPE YOU ALL CONTINUE TO, UM, COLLABORATE IN THE WAY THAT YOU DID DURING THE RETREAT AND, AND HOPE FOR, UH, GOOD OUTCOME FROM SOME OF THE THINGS YOU DISCUSSED.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AN ISSUE THAT WASN'T DISCUSSED VERY MUCH AT THE RETREAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T HAVE IT ON YOUR AGENDA, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO, UM, CREATE A WORKING GROUP TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET.

AND I'D LIKE YOU TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN JANUARY, UH, TO CREATE A WORKING GROUP THAT THEN YOU'LL APPROVE AND THEN THE WORKING GROUP CAN MEET AND, AND REPORT BACK DURING FEBRUARY.

I, I THINK YOU CANCELED YOUR MARCH MEETING, BUT MAYBE THE WORKING GROUP CAN MEET IN MARCH, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE, THE ADVISORY COMMISSION WON'T MEET IN MARCH AND THEN MEET AGAIN IN, IN APRIL AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BUDGET.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST IS THAT YOU CANNOT MAKE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE DIRECTOR IS REQUESTING, AND THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO REVEAL TO YOU WHAT'S IN THE REQUEST UNTIL THEY APPROVE IT.

AND THAT ONLY GETS APPROVED AT THE END OF JULY FOR COUNCIL VOTE IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME TO REVIEW THE DIRECTOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEREFORE, WHAT I'M REQUESTING IS THAT

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YOU START LOOKING AT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET CATEGORIES SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS, WHAT IS FOR SPAY NEUTER, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CONTRACTS, AND THEN, UM, BE READY TO GO WITH, UH, BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IN APRIL, APRIL, MAY, OR EVEN JUNE.

UM, BUT DON'T WAIT TILL YOU HAVE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET IN JULY BECAUSE IT'S TOO LATE.

MY SECOND REQUEST IS THAT IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO REVIEW THE EMANCIPATE CONTRACT, WHICH IS UP FOR RENEWAL.

IN MARCH LAST YEAR WHEN THE SPAN WORKING GROUP WAS MEETING, WE FOUND OUT THAT WE COULDN'T CHANGE THE EMANCIPATE CONTRACT OR MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES BECAUSE WE WERE IN MID-YEAR.

AND THEN, UM, THIS YEAR THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED WITHOUT CHANGES.

SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO HAVING TO LOOK AT THE EMANCIPET, UM, CONTRACT BEFORE IT'S REVIEWED.

NOW THIS YEAR WE'RE VERY LUCKY IN THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT HAS BEEN, UM, ADDED BY BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND TRAVIS COMMISSIONER'S COURT WILL BE ADDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR .

SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE CITY PAYING IN THE EMANCIPATE CONTRACT, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND I REQUEST THAT YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM IN JANUARY FOR THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU, PAT.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS DAN HAM.

THAT'S ME.

SHALL I ADDRESS YOU? UH, YEAH.

COME ON UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.

AND I HAVE A HANDOUT HERE, WHICH I CAN SHARE WITH YOU.

CAN I PASS THIS AROUND? YES.

JUST A ONE PAGE MAP OF, UH, WHAT I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS I AM DISTURBED RECENTLY BY SEEING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH DOGS OFF LEASH.

THIS IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR A LONG TIME IN PARKS, AND I'M NOT REALLY EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS IS JUST PEOPLE WALKING RIGHT DOWN THE STREET WITH THEIR DOG, NOT LEACHED.

AND, UH, TO BE CLEAR, UM, THESE ARE NOT DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN THREATENING TO ME OR ATTACKED ME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT SETS A REALLY BAD STANDARD.

UM, AND WE DON'T WANT TO FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S NORMALIZED FOR EVERYONE TO JUST LET THEIR DOGS OFF LEASH WHEN THEY WANT TO.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS, BUT I WANTED TO AT LEAST BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

UM, AND THE MAP THAT I'VE HANDED OUT TO YOU GUYS IS, UH, OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF OR 20 MONTHS OR SO, I'VE BEEN, UH, JUST KIND OF KEEPING TRACK OF WHERE I'VE SEEN THIS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, AND I THINK, UH, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AFFECTING THE SUBURBS OR THE INNER NEIGHBORHOODS OR WHAT, BUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH CENTRAL AUSTIN, I FEEL I CAN GO OUT JUST ABOUT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, UH, ESPECIALLY BETWEEN SEVEN AND NINE IN THE MORNING AND SEE THIS HAPPENING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION AND SEE IF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

NEXT IS ROCHELLE VICKERY? YES.

MY NAME IS ROCHELLE.

GOOD MORNING TODAY, NOW.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS ROCHELLE VICKERY.

YOU'VE BEEN SEEING ME FOR A YEAR.

SAME OLD THING, SPADE AND NEUTER.

BUT WHAT I'M VERY UPSET ABOUT IN OCTOBER, A PA WAS GIVEN A REPORT.

I DO NOT KNOW IF IT WAS FOR THE YEAR, THE QUARTER, THE MONTH, BUT I ALMOST FELL OFF THE CHAIR WHEN THEY SAID TO HAVE 400 PREGNANT ANIMALS.

AND SHE GAVE THEIR, GAVE HER LITTLE S SPILL.

MR. TUCKER, YOU ASKED IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS AND DR. NELSON RAISED HER HAND.

I THINK SHE HAS MORE EDUCATION THEN ALL OF Y'ALL, EXCEPT FOR THAT LADY OVER THERE.

AND, AND DR. NELSON BECAUSE THE KNOWING OF OF ANIMALS, SHE'S, THIS IS HER BUSINESS AND Y'ALL SHUT HER UP AND TOLD HER SHE COULDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.

AND IT REALLY UPSET ME BECAUSE I WANNA KNOW, I'VE KNOWN IT THAT A PA WAS GETTING ALL THE PREGNANT ANIMALS.

I DID 200 CATS THIS YEAR ALREADY.

IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT TIMES FIVE, THAT'S A THOUSAND KITTENS I STOPPED AND PUPPY KITTENS THAT I STOPPED FROM BEING BORN.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT, AND WE NEED TO WORK HARD TO, TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL.

AND IT JUST REALLY UPSET ME WHEN YOU SHUT HER UP BECAUSE WE, THERE'S LOTS OF US OUT HERE

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WANNA KNOW WHY THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE PREGNANT ANIMALS.

WE NEED TO RENEW THAT CONTRACT AND TAKE, TAKE CARE OF IT, AND GET THE ANIMALS BACK OUT TO WHERE THEY BELONG OR OUT INTO ADOPTION.

BECAUSE OUT OFF OF FALWELL LANE, WHICH IS NEAR I 30 AND 71 LAST MONTH, A LADY, MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME FOUND A DOG IN A CAGE.

AND IT'S VERY SICKENING.

I KNOW PEOPLE ARE DUMPING, IT'S ALONG THE RIVER THERE, AND THEY, THEY, THEY'RE DUMPING ANIMALS AND THEY'RE DUMPING CATS.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE BEING EATEN BY THE COYOTES, BUT THE POOR LITTLE DOG WAS IN A CAGE.

IT WAS A LAB MIX.

IF SHE WOULDN'T HAVE WENT DOWN THAT ROAD, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN IT.

AND NO TELLING WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ENDING UP WITH BECAUSE OUR CITY CANNOT TAKE IN THE ANIMALS.

IT'S PITIFUL.

I CAN TELL YOU OF A DEAL ON ELROY ROAD THAT JUST HAPPENED AT THANKSGIVING.

I DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, THE MAN ACROSS THE STREET, THESE PEOPLE HAD 12 DOGS.

THERE WAS A DOG, IT MAKES ME WANNA CRY, BUT THE LITTLE DOG WAS SO EMACIATED WITH 12 OTHER DOGS IN THE YARD.

HE WAS WOLFING THE GROUND, TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING TO EAT.

AND OF COURSE, I HAD SOME FOOD IN MY CAR BECAUSE I HELPED THE HOMELESS PEOPLE.

AND I WENT OUT THERE AND I SAYS, COME WITH ME.

AND I SAYS, WE GOT UP AND WE, I HAD A CAN OF FOOD AND OPENED IT UP AND HE ABOUT 10 POUNDS OF DRY FOOD AND WAS GETTING THI IT'S, IT'S JUST PATHETIC THAT WE CAN'T TAKE IN ANIMALS.

AND Y'ALL ARE LETTING IT JUST GET OUTTA HAND.

WE NEED MORE SPAYED AND NEUTER.

THANK YOU.

UH, MISTY VATA.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS MISTY VALENTA AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER IN GEORGETOWN, TEXAS.

OUR SHELTER IS THE OPEN INTAKE SHELTER FOR ROUND ROCK CEDAR PARK, LEANDER HU, AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

LAST YEAR I CAME TO YOU BECAUSE OUR SHELTER WAS SUFFERING A CRISIS BECAUSE CITIZENS WERE BEING TURNED AWAY BY THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.

I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT STATUS.

SINCE MY LAST VISIT, CITIZENS HAVE BECOME MORE DESPERATE FOR SERVICES.

I HAVE CITIZENS REPORTING THAT THEY'RE TOLD BY EMPLOYEES OF AUSTIN OR AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER TO CONTACT US FOR THEIR NEEDS OF SERVICE.

PARTNER SHELTERS HAVE REPORTED CITIZENS BEING COACHED ON HOW TO LIE IN ORDER TO GET AN AUSTIN ANIMAL INTO THEIR SHELTER.

THIS HAS INCREASED THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS IN OUR SHELTER AND DRAMATICALLY INCREASED THE WORKLOAD FOR MY STAFF.

THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER IS NOT THE PRIMARY ORGANIZATION FOR THE ANIMALS OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY.

WE ARE A HUMBLE SHELTER.

LAST YEAR, OUR BUDGET WAS 2.7 MILLION, VASTLY SMALLER THAN AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTERS, 17 MILLION.

ONE OF THE RICHEST SHELTERS IN THE AREA IS SENDING CITIZENS TO ONE OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVELY FUNDED SHELTERS.

SINCE JANUARY 1ST, THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER HAS NEVER CLOSED INTAKE AND HAS TAKEN IN 2,945 DOGS.

ACCORDING TO THE DOWNLOADABLE DATA ON THE AUSTIN SITE, AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER HAS TAKEN IN 4,807 DOGS DURING THE SAME PERIOD.

THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF LESS THAN 2000 DOGS.

AND OUR BUDGETARY DIFFERENCE IS 15 MILLION CITIZENS HAVE BECOME SO DESPERATE FOR SERVICES THAT THEY ARE NOT ONLY LYING TO US, BUT THEY'RE INVADING OUR PRIVACY.

I HAD A CITIZEN CALL MY HOME PHONE NUMBER AND A STAFF MEMBER'S HOME PHONE NUMBER BEGGING FOR HELP.

THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MR. BLAND DIDN'T INFORM ME THAT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER IS HELPING CITIZENS AFFECTED BY EVICTION.

AND I'M GLAD FOR THAT.

THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN NEED MORE AND THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OFF THE HOOK.

MY ASK TONIGHT IS FOR A PUBLIC RECOGNITION THAT THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER IS NOT THE SHELTER SOLELY RESPONSIBLE TO BE, TO BE THE SAFETY NET FOR THE ANIMALS IN AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY.

THE SHELTER RESPONSIBLE IS AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.

MY ASK IS FOR THIS FACT TO BE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF AND CITIZENS ALIKE.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO USE THE MILLIONS BEING SAVED TO REISSUE THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE LIFESAVING IN THE PAST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR,

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FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

THERE'S ONE MORE SPEAKER, BUT THAT'S ON AN AGENDA ITEM.

IS THAT SYNC WITH WHAT YOU HAVE? NO, NO MORE ONLINE OR ANYTHING.

OKAY.

UM, IF YOU COULD PASS US, I ALWAYS FORGET AND THEN TAKE IT HOME WITH ME.

OKAY.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

UH, THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS APPROVAL OF APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING ON NOVEMBER 13TH, 2023.

ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS TO APPROVE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LINDER? SECOND.

IS THERE SECOND? UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HER HERRA, .

GETTING CLOSER.

BETTER.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S A TONGUE TWISTER FOR ME.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? OR IS THERE A DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AND RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.

OKAY.

AND LOOKS LIKE UNANIMOUS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

NEXT

[2. Overview of monthly reports provided by the Animal Service Center. Reports posted in backup materials.]

IS, UH, STAFF BRIEFINGS, OVERVIEW OF MONTHLY REPORTS PROVIDED BY THE ANIMAL SERVICE CENTER.

REPORTS POSTED IN BACKUP MATERIALS.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

DON BLAND.

I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST INTRODUCE, UH, ERIC ANDERSON WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

UH, ERIC IS, UH, OBSERVING FOR THE NEXT FEW MEETINGS, AND THEN HE WILL TAKE OVER THE LIAISON POSITION FROM THE SHELTER.

AND SO YOU'LL START COMMUNICATING AND SEEING MORE FROM THEM.

UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SHARE? SURE.

UH, HI EVERYONE.

FOR THOSE THAT I HAVEN'T MET, I'M ERIC ANDERSON.

I'VE BEEN WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR ABOUT 18 MONTHS, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO BE NEW IN THIS ROLE, WORKING WITH THIS COMMISSION AS WELL AS A FEW OTHERS.

UH, TAKING OVER THAT STAFF LIAISON ROLE AND HELPING Y'ALL TO DO YOUR BUSINESS.

WELL, WE WELCOME YOU AND THANK YOU.

AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HELP.

UH, UP UNTIL THIS POINT IN YOUR PREVIOUS, UH, WELL, YOU STILL HAD THAT POSITION, BUT IN YOUR NEW EXPANDED ROLE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR THAT AND AS WELL AS WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANKS.

WITH THAT, I'M GONNA LET JASON GARZA START.

HI, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

OH, YEAH.

UH, UH, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW BEFORE I HAND IT BACK OVER ON THE LIVE OUTCOME RATE FOR NOVEMBER WAS 96.8%.

UH, WE, UH, IMPOUNDED 763 ANIMALS.

WE WERE ABLE TO ADOPT 571, UH, CATS AND DOGS.

UH, 69 ANIMALS WERE, WERE REUNITED WITH THEIR FAMILY.

UM, WITHIN ANIMAL PROTECTION, WE WERE ABLE TO DO 19 RETURN OWNERS IN THE FIELD.

UH, WE DID IMPOUND 104 INJURED ANIMALS AND DELIVERED APPROXIMATELY 41 WILD ANIMALS, WILDLIFE TO AUSTIN, UH, WILDLIFE RESCUE.

AND WE ENTERED 184 EXPOSURE REPORTS.

UM, WE ALSO DID SEND 18 SPECIMENS FOR RABIES TESTING.

AND THREE, UH, BAT POSITIVE RABIES, OR THREE RABIES POSITIVE BATS.

AND ONE, UH, POSITIVE FOR SKUNK CAME BACK.

AND THEN DON, WE'LL COVER THE REST.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

UH, FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, WE HAD VOLUNTEERS CONTRIBUTE 5,838 VOLUNTEER HOURS.

THERE WERE, UM, 158 NEW FOSTER APPLICATIONS PROCESSED, AND THERE WAS THREE HUN THREE NEW OR ORIENTATIONS FOR VOLUNTEERS INTRODUCING 85 NEW POTENTIAL VOLUNTEERS.

AND 98 VOLUNTEERS ATTENDED THEIR FIRST ANIMAL HANDLING TRAINING OR MENTOR SESSION IN NOVEMBER.

FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, WE HAD 115 EMERGENCY CASES AT THE SHELTER.

DEALT WITH 71 WERE DIRECT CASES AT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, AND 44 WERE TRANSFERS FROM THE EMERGENCY CLINIC.

WE DID 38 SPECIALTY SURGERIES DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.

CURRENTLY, AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN FULL-TIME POSITIONS THAT ARE POSTED.

WE HAVE, I MEAN, FOUR, EXCUSE ME, FOUR FULL-TIME POSITIONS THAT ARE POSTED, SEVEN THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING POSTED.

AND WE HAVE THREE THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING HIRED.

BUT, UH, SEVERAL OF THESE POSITIONS HAVE MULTIPLE OPENINGS IN THAT.

SO WE HAVE 26 TOTAL OPENINGS.

SO LIKE, UH, FOR ANIMAL PROTECTION, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SEVEN OPENINGS, BUT THERE'S ONE POSTING.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE IS.

UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US OVER ANY OF OUR REPORTS? COMMISSION, S MAGULA.

SO, GOOD EVENING, DIRECTOR.

BLAND.

SO ALL THESE POSITIONS THAT YOU JUST SPOKE OF, ARE THEY ALL FULL-TIME POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING? YES.

OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.

SORRY, I WAS JUST MAKING A NOTE.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ON YOUR REPORTS,

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ON YOUR DATA REPORT, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

UM, ON THE ANIMAL DEATHS AT A A C AND FOSTER, UM, BASICALLY I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THESE NUMBERS.

SO YOU'RE, IF I'M LOOKING AT IT, I, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE SIX ANIMALS DIED AT A A C OR IN FOSTER.

THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT THE CHART SHOWS 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 NUMBER OF DEATHS BY REASON.

THERE ARE NINE PIECES OF THE PIE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS ACCURATE.

AND IT'S LIKE THAT LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE AS WELL.

I HAVE, I GUESS I'LL GET WITH YOU AND LOOK AT IT.

'CAUSE THE, THE VERSION I HAVE, I HAVE FIVE, FIVE REASONS.

SO IF YOU SAY YOURS HAS NINE MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

NOW THERE WERE TWO DATA REPORTS POSTED AS BACKUP, NEITHER OF WHICH SAID UPDATED.

SO PERHAPS THIS IS NOT THE MOST, THE MOST CURRENT ONE.

RECENT ONE.

OKAY.

BUT IF THEY'RE NOT LABELED AS AN UPDATE, HOW ARE WE TO KNOW WHICH IS ACCURATE? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL GET WITH YOU.

IT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN UNFOR.

ONCE SOMETHING'S POSTED, WE CAN'T PULL IT OFF, BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PUT THE LABELS UPDATED.

SO I'LL HAVE TO JUST INVESTIGATE.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT HELP.

'CAUSE WHEN THERE WERE TWO REPORTS, I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS THE, WHICH ONE WAS POSTED WHEN AND WHICH ONE'S CURRENT.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU UPDATE A REPORT AND YOU CAN'T TAKE SOMETHING OFF, YOU ADD TO IT.

MM-HMM.

JUST PUT UPDATE VERSION ONE VERSION, HOWEVER, AND THAT WHATEVER'S THE EASIEST, JUST SO THAT AS COMMISSIONERS WE KNOW WHICH REPORT TO LOOK AT AND WHICH REPORT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE SPEAKING ON.

MM-HMM.

.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, SO, UM, I BELIEVE I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, UM, IF IT COULD BE IDENTIFIED, YOU HAVE ONE ANIMAL LISTED AS LOST, STOLEN OR MISSING.

DO YOU KNOW WHICH IT IS? I CAN FIND OUT AND SEND YOU AN UPDATE.

OKAY.

AND THEN ON YOUR INTACT ANIMALS ADOPTED AND RETURNED TO OWNER, UM, IT SAYS 1662 ANIMALS ADOPTED.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THOSE 43 OR IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE 43 RETURN TO OWNER? SO THE, NO, THE, THE RETURN TO OWNER, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT INCLUDES, THOSE ARE THOSE THAT ARE RTO ADOPT.

OKAY.

THE 62 INTACCT ANIMALS ADOPTED WILL BE, THEY'RE ADOPTED AND THEY EITHER HAVE SOME MEDICAL REASON, UM, OR THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, YEAH, FOR SOME REASON THAT THE, THAT THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ADOPT OR WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT WITH A, UH, SPAY NEUTER AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

SO THEN IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF AN INTACT ANIMAL GOES TO BE ADOPTED, IT, IT'S PUT INTO A FOSTER TO ADOPT UNTIL IT COMES BACK FOR THAT SPAY NEUTER.

YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S, AND THEN IT'S, THEN THAT'S ONE THE OPTIONS THAT WE UTILIZE.

BUT WE ALSO CAN, BUT WE CAN ALSO IMPLEMENT A SPAY NEUTER AGREEMENT WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL AGREES TO SPAY OR NEAR THEIR PET WITHIN, I BELIEVE IT'S 30 DAYS.

AND, UM, THEY CAN ADOPT THE ANIMAL, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET THAT, MEET THAT, UH, CRITERIA.

AND SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM JUST TO MAKE SURE.

DID YOU GET IT? WE USUALLY WILL CHARGE A FEE AND THEN WE'LL REFUND THAT FEE TO THEM ONCE THEY HAVE PROOF OF THAT.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S JUST A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH NUMBER OF INTACT ANIMALS ADOPTED OUT.

AND THAT WORRIES ME WITH THE, UM, STRAY SITUATION THAT WE HAVE.

AND WITH ALL THE SPAY AND NEUTER ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO THIS COMMISSION, THAT'S JUST A LOT OF AN INTACT ANIMALS GOING OUT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT END UP SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

SO.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LINDER.

UM, JUST TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

UH, FIRST SORT OF JUMPING OFF THAT POINT, UM, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW OFF THE, THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD WHAT THE COMPLIANCE RATE IS FOR, UM, DOGS THAT ARE SENT OUT, UM, ON A PROMISE TO RETURN THEM WITH A SPAY NEUTER AGREEMENT? LIKE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME, UM, ARE YOU ACTUALLY, DO THOSE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THOSE APPOINTMENTS? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT PERCENTAGE AND GET BACK TO YOU, BUT I KNOW IT, WE HAVE A HIGH, UH, RATE THAT O OF THEM COMING BACK TO DO THEIR SURGERIES.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GET DONE, RIGHT.

, AND WE, WE DO FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND WE DO ASK THOSE THAT AREN'T FOSTERING, UH, TO PAY A DEPOSIT AND THAT'S AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO GET THEIR MONEY BACK AS WELL IF IT'S EASY.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO, TO KNOW WHAT THE, UM, THE NUMBER IS.

WE'LL GET TO, WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU.

OKAY.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, AND THEN JUST TO, UM, TO GO BACK TO A POINT THAT WAS MAJORING THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, UM, I THINK THE NUMBER THERE THAT WAS GIVEN

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AS AN ESTIMATE WAS ABOUT 4,000 DOGS COMING IN, UM, YEAR TO DATE.

JUST LOOKING AT THIS MATH AND EXTRAPOLATING THAT SEEMS ABOUT RIGHT.

DOES THAT FEEL CONSISTENT WITH YOUR, UM, I, I'D HAVE TO VERIFY, JUST TO BE SURE.

MM-HMM.

, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S BBS AND FLOWS.

UM, I WAS TRYING TO PULL UP THE WEBSITE JUST TO GET THE FINAL, JUST TO VERIFY THAT.

UM, BUT YEAH, AND I DIDN'T BRING MY COMPUTER SO I MESSED UP ON THAT ONE, SO, SORRY.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

SORRY.

WE CAN SEND THAT ALONG WITH THE COMPLIANCE.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO, COMMISSIONER, OH, SORRY.

THANK YOU.

WALKER.

YEAH, GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER.

SO, ROSA, THANK YOU.

THE FIRST QUESTION IS FOR JASON.

UM, COMMISSIONER MULA ASKED FOR ASK CERTAIN THINGS AND YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA SEND HER UPDATES.

CAN YOU PLEASE COPY ALL THE COMMISSIONS NURSE SWIFT UPDATES, PLEASE? SURE, I CAN DO THAT.

UH, THAT'S, I APPRECIATE IT.

THE SECOND ITEM, AND MAY, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS THIS THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I, UM, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UPDATES FOR A A C AND ONE THING THAT I, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, UH, DI EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BLAND, IS TO GET, UH, FROM THE AUDIT IN SEPTEMBER.

WHERE, WHERE ARE WE IN ADDRESSING THAT, THE IMPROVEMENTS WHERE YOU ARE AT? IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

WE, UH, SENT A MEMO TO COUNCIL RECENTLY.

UH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND A COPY OF IT TO Y'ALL AS WELL, GIVING AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE WERE.

OKAY.

SO, AND, AND I, I IMAGINE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING ON A MONTH TO MONTH.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO INCLUDE THIS IN OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS? UH, WE CAN, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES, YES, WE CAN UPDATE YOU.

OKAY.

THAT'LL BE WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HASSEN.

THANK YOU.

UM, ACCORDING TO MY, THE DATA FROM THE OPEN DATA PORTAL, THIS WILL BE THE, THIS IS CURRENTLY THE LOWEST NUMBER OF DOGS A A C HAS TAKEN IN, IN RECORDED HISTORY.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL THAT THIS YEAR IS THE LOWEST NUMBER OF DOGS TAKEN IN BY A A C SORRY, FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR? I MEAN, I'M, I'M KIND OF KEEPING A RUNNING TOTAL TOO.

UM, SO FAR THIS YEAR WE'VE TAKEN IN 782 DOGS AND 879 CATS.

UM, NO, FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR.

OH, I HAVEN'T DONE THE CALENDAR YEAR.

I, I'VE JUST BEEN DOING FISCAL YEARS.

UM, SORRY, MY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RUNNING ABOUT 1500 TO 2000 MORE.

WE'RE DONE, UM, EVEN LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS THE LOWEST YEAR.

UM, SO THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, .

AND I CAN, I, I CAN LOOK THROUGH IT THROUGH CALENDAR USUALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, AS, AS A FORMER DEPUTY, YOU REMEMBER THAT WE, UH, RUN THROUGH OUR REPORTS, WENT THROUGH FISCAL.

UM, BUT YEAH, I CAN SEE ABOUT THAT AND CAN SEND IT ALONG WITH THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY, I'M LIKE POINTING.

IT'S MY DR. NELSON.

SO WHEN YOU HAD TO CLOSE, INTAKE WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT TO LOWER THE INTAKE OF DOGS BECAUSE THE SHELTER IS STRESSED BEYOND CAPACITY? THAT IS CORRECT.

WE'VE HAD TO REDUCE INTAKE TO THOSE THAT SICKER INJURED OR BEING EVICTED THAT TRULY NEED OUR HELP BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY ISSUES AND NOT WANTING TO HAVE TO EUTHANIZE FOR SPACE BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE LIVE EXITS THAT WE'VE HAD PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.

YEAH.

SO, SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE SURPRISING THAT THE INTAKE IS LOWER BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD TO DO THAT OUT OF NECESSITY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

LOWER INTAKE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD LOWER OUTCOMES.

YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER ADA, DO YOU STILL HAVE? YES.

CAN, CAN Y'ALL PLEASE ADD TO THAT REPORT, THE QUANTITY OF LONG STAY PETS THAT Y'ALL HAVE AT THE SHELTER, JUST TO HAVE A, A BETTER IDEA AND, AND UNDERSTAND WHY THEY INTAKE.

IT'S, IT'S OPEN BODY, BUT HAS DIFFERENT APPROACHES WITH THE COMMUNITY JUST TO KNOW, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IF Y'ALL ARE RECEIVING LESS PETS, IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE MAYBE MORE AT THE SHELTER.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DOCTOR? OR, UH, CHIEF? CHIEF BLAND, , UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER

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HERRERA IF HE WOULD TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT OUR LARGE EVENT THAT WE'RE HAVING IN JANUARY.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, A VERY GOOD, UH, EVENT THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF.

AND IF COMMISSIONER HERRA, WOULD YOU SHARE WITH US? YES.

UH, HERE'S THE COMMERCIAL.

I LOVE THIS COMMERCIAL.

WE ARE HAVING A MEGA MICROCHIP AND VACCINATION CLINIC ON JANUARY 6TH AT DEL VA HIGH SCHOOL.

WE ARE PARTNERSHIP WITH EMANCIPET WITH DEL VA ISD, WHO THEY ARE AMAZING WITH US WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS RESOURCE CENTER IN DEL.

AND THE IDEA IT'S TO GIVE RADIO VACCINATION AND MICROCHIP AND FEW OTHER VACCINATIONS TO AT LEAST 500 PETS IS GOING TO BE, UH, A DRIVE THROUGH.

FIRST COME FIRST SERVE FROM 8:00 AM TO 2:00 PM PLEASE.

I NEED YOUR HELP TO PROMOTE THESE TO MAKE MORE OF THESE EVENTS.

WE HAVE ALREADY A GOOD LOGISTIC IF ANY OF Y'ALL WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND COME AND TALK AND, AND SEE WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.

Y'ALL ARE COMPLETELY WELCOME.

OF COURSE.

WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A COURTROOM FOR THAT, BUT YES, REMEMBER JANUARY 6TH FROM 8:00 AM TO 2:00 PM DEL HIGH SCHOOL.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, COMMISSIONER LINDER.

UM, ONE LAST ONE HERE.

UM, JUST AS FAR AS THIS, UM, CONCERNED THAT WAS RAISED ABOUT, UM, OFF-LEASH PETS, I KNOW THAT THERE'S AN OFF-LEASH ORDINANCE, UM, THAT'S ENFORCED BY A PO OFFICERS, BUT I ALSO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ORDINANCES THAT THEY'RE TASKED WITH.

UM, AND AS YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UM, A LOT OF PRESSING ISSUES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BALANCE.

COULD YOU JUST, UM, FOR, FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE, UM, WHO RAISED THIS ISSUE, EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS NOW.

IS IT SORT OF, UM, SOMETHING WHERE ONLY IF AN A PO OFFICER HAPPENS TO BE IN THE AREA AND SEE THAT, WOULD THEY DO, DO THEY EVER ISSUE CITATIONS FOR, UM, FOR OFF-LEASH DOGS, OR JUST HELP TO EDUCATE ME ON THIS? THANKS.

IT IT, IF IT IS WITNESS, THEY CAN DO THAT.

UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WITH MOST OF THIS IS, IT'S A LOT OF TIMES WE GET THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE PARKS, UH, WHERE THEY'RE LETTING 'EM OFF LEASH AND NOT AN OFF LEASH PARK.

AND THE RANGERS WILL ASK PEOPLE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

UH, IF WE GET A CALL, BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, THEY'RE GONE.

AND THAT IS LOW PRIORITY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, PUT THEM IN THE, IN THE RANKING OF PRIORITIES.

AND SO MANY TIMES, UH, WE GET THERE AND THEY'RE NOT THERE.

WE HAVE, UH, ALSO PEOPLE THAT, UM, HAVE REPORTED THE NEIGHBORS LEADING DOGS OUT CONTINUALLY.

AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND BASED ON THEIR INFORMATION, WE CAN LEAVE CITATIONS AS WELL.

UH, SO, BUT WE, WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, BUT, UH, THAT IS, IS LOW PRIORITY COMPARED TO ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

THANK YOU.

DR. BRUCE.

UM, SO THESE MICROCHIP VACCINATION IN SPAY NEUTER CLINICS WERE ROUTINE AND OFFERED QUARTERLY PRIOR TO COVID.

IS THE PLAN TO DO ONE OF THESE QUARTERLY? IS THAT ON THE, THE BOOKS FOR THIS YEAR? WE'VE BEEN DOING THEM TRYING TO DO MONTHLY, UH, WITH THE INCLUSION OF SPAY AND NEUTER, THOUGH THEY USED TO BE QUARTERLY.

IS THAT ON THE PLAN FOR THIS YEAR? THAT'S, IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL EMANCIPATE AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE.

YES.

UH, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, OR THE ISSUE WAS EMANCIPATE WAS NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO RUN THE MOBILE CLINICS FOR THIS ONE.

WE ARE COMING BACK NOT WITH A HIGH NUMBER OF SPARE ORDERS, BUT THE IDEA IS TO DO THESE MEGA CLINICS AT LEAST FOUR TIMES PER YEAR WITH THE, WITH THE CLINIC FROM EMANCIPATE AND THE OTHER ONES THAT WE DO MONTH TO MONTH.

AND THE TINY ONES, THE IDEA IS TO OFFER VOUCHERS TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN CONTACT EMANCIPATE AND MOVE ON.

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THE VOUCHERS, AS WE KNOW, UH, CAN BE BETWEEN, THERE'RE GONNA BE EIGHT MONTHS OUT.

SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.

YES, EXACTLY.

SO WE ARE TO BE CLEAR WITH OUR CURRENT CONTRACTS, WE ARE NOT UP BACK UP TO PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS OF SERVICE.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE NUMBERS, BUT WE ARE STILL BEHIND.

THEY, UH, ARE NOT AT PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS.

THEY DO ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO FIVE DAYS THIS FIRST QUARTER.

AND I WAS GOING TO ADD SOMETHING FOR THE LOOSE DOGS.

WE, WE WITH THE COMMISSION, NOT ME.

UH, THEY HAVE A WORKING GROUP FOR LOOSE DOGS AND WAS A LOT OF WORK.

THE TRUTH, THE WORK THAT THE CENTER AND THE APOS, THE REACH THAT THEY CAN DO IS VERY MINIMUM.

IT'S FULL,

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FULL IN IN, IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND WITH US.

NOT A LIE, I JUST RECEIVE A TEXT MESSAGE FROM A CLIENT WHO GET ATTACKED BY TWO DOGS OUTSIDE THE DOG.

ANOTHER DOG IS IN THE HOSPITAL, AND THIS PERSON MAYBE LOSE THEIR FINGER.

AND IT'S AN AREA THAT NORMALLY IS NOT LOOSE DOGS, BUT ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

THIS IS AN INVITATION TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS AMAZING CITY IN THIS COUNTY.

PLEASE PUT YOUR DOGS ON LEASH OR BEHIND PHYSICAL BARRIERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER S MAGULA.

SO, YEAH, SO I, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER LINDERS.

SO IF, UM, ON THESE DOGS THAT ARE BEING WALKED OFF LEASH ON THE CITY STREETS, NOT IN PARKS, DOWN THE STREET IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THEIR OWNERS, IF AN A PO SEES THAT HAPPENING, WILL THEY STOP AND NOT NECESSARILY GIVE A CITATION THE FIRST TIME, BUT GIVE A WARNING AND TELL THEM YOUR DOG HAS TO BE ON LEASH? OR ARE THEY, ARE THEY DIRECTED TO STOP WHEN THEY SEE THAT AND ADDRESS IT? OR DO THEY JUST DRIVE BY? WELL, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP AND, AND EDUCATE THE INDIVIDUAL.

LET 'EM KNOW ABOUT THE LEASH LAWS.

OKAY.

IF THEY, IF THEY ARE PATROLLING AND HAPPEN TO SEE THE INDIVIDUAL AGAIN, YOU DO THAT GOOD FAITH OUT OF EDUCATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR APOS TO, TO SORT OF, UM, BEFORE TRYING TO ISSUE CITATIONS.

MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

.

NOW IF, IF INDIVIDUALS STOP AN APO AND SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON'S BEEN DOING THAT, THEY LIVE IN THAT AREA, THEN WE'LL, WE WILL DO AN ACTIVITY TO TRY AND GO TALK TO THAT INDIVIDUAL.

FIND OUT WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? GIVE THEM LEASHES THAT THEY DO SUPPLY THEIR TRUCKS WITH LEASHES SO THAT THEY CAN HAND THEM OUT JUST IN CASE PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE 'EM, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK TO FOLKS BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT IS AGAINST OUR ORDINANCES.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO.

BUT IF, IF A CALL COMES IN FOR, FOR THIS OR THERE'S A BITE, WE, WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE BITE FIRST BEFORE WE CAN RIGHT.

TRY TO ADDRESS THE, THE LOOSE DOG ISSUE.

OKAY.

THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION ON YOUR, UM, ANIMAL SERVICES REPORT.

ON THE NARRATIVE ONE.

UM, IT SAYS YOU TOOK IN 763 ANIMALS, INCLUDING 3 52 CATS AND 3 76 DOGS, WHICH LEAVES THE DIFFERENCE OF 35.

SO WERE THOSE OTHER RABBITS, GUINEA PIGS, SOMETHING, BIRDS, OTHERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? NOT WILDLIFE? UH, IT, I THINK OTHER CAN BE, CAN BE WILDLIFE.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SUBTYPE AND CHAMELEON IS.

NOT TO GET INTO THE OKAY.

BUT, BUT I CAN FIND THAT OUT AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER? OH, YES.

I, I, SORRY, I REMOVED THAT ITEM FOR JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

OKAY.

YES.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A SECOND ONE DISCUSSION TO CREATE A FINDER TO FOSTER WORKING GROUP.

HELLO? WE CANNOT HEAR WHAT YEAH.

SAYING.

OH, OKAY.

JUST FEW MINUTES DISCUSSION TO CREATE, UM, THE FINDER TO FOSTER WORKING GROUP.

UM, I KNOW, I, I, UM, JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

YEAH.

UM, THAT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, SO WE'LL BE COVERING THAT ON THIS.

WAIT, BUT I NEEDED TO KNOW WHO, WHO MOTIONED.

OH, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T YET.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET TO THAT YET.

NO.

I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH.

OH, LAST MONTH.

YES.

YES.

MY APOLOGIES.

OKAY.

UM, WE WILL, LET ME LOOK THROUGH THESE AND WE, BEFORE THE MEETING ENDS, WE'LL HAVE IT FIGURED OUT.

HOW ABOUT THAT? DOES THAT WORK? YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL CLEAN IT UP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

UM, LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO FOUR DISCUSSION AND UPDATE FROM THE FINDER TO FOSTER WORKING GROUP.

OH, GEEZ.

OKAY.

SORRY.

NUMBER

[3. Discussion and possible action on a Resolution Concerning Euthanizing Injured Deer.]

THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION CONCERNING EUTHANIZING INJURED DEER.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.

HELLO, UH, COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS CRAIG NAZER.

AND I, THIS ITEM IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED, UH, IN, THERE'S, I HAVE A LITTLE BY MY HOUSE, HAVE A LITTLE GREEN BELT THAT RUNS IN WALNUT CREEK METROPOLITAN PARK.

AND AT NIGHT THE DEER COME INTO THE LITTLE GREEN BELT TO EAT.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT DEER DO.

BUT AS THE CITY FILLS UP, THEY HAVE TO CROSS MORE ROADS AND SOONER OR LATER DEER'S GONNA GET HIT.

WELL, I HAD HEARD REPORTS OF A

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DEER BEING INJURED IN THE GREEN BELT, UH, A FEW DAY FOR A FEW DAYS.

AND THEN ONE DAY I GET THIS CALL, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS DEER IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE PATH, IS VERY SERIOUSLY INJURED.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO, THEY GOT MY NUMBER.

THEY CALLED ME UP, THEY SAID, CRAIG, WHAT CAN WE DO HERE NOW? NEXT SLIDE.

THE DEER HAD BEEN HIT, ITS JAW HAD BEEN BROKEN ON BOTH SIDES.

IT WAS HANGING OPEN.

YOU CAN SEE THE INJURIES ON ITS TONGUE.

IT A BIT, ITS TONGUE, AND ITS RIGHT REAR LEG WAS COMPLETELY SNAPPED OFF AND HANGING BY SKIN AND PEOPLE WALKING BY WITH THEIR DOGS LUNGING AT THE DEER.

THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE, AS YOU SAW THERE, TRYING TO GIVE IT WATER.

IT HADN'T EATEN.

IT HADN'T DRANK FOR DAYS.

YOU COULD SEE IT'S DEHYDRATED, BUT IT WAS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE.

SO THEY HAD CALLED 3 1 1.

THIS IS NOT 9 1 1.

THIS DEER WAS NOT ENDANGERING ANYBODY.

AND, UH, APOS DON'T RESPOND TO WILDLIFE CALLS.

AND, UH, AUSTIN WILDLIFE RESCUE DOES NOT, UH, DO, YOU KNOW, GO OUT AND DO CALLS.

AND THEY DON'T HANDLE DEER ANYWAY.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHEN AN ADULT DEER, THEY DON'T HANDLE ANYWAY.

UM, AND THEY HAD MADE A NUMBER OF CALLS AND COULD FIND NO ONE WHO HAD COME TO DO ANYTHING.

SO THEY CALLED ME UP AND, UH, I CALLED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I CALLED ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

I CALLED, UH, TRAVIS, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR MY AREA.

WE CALLED THE GAME WAR.

AND THE GAME WARDEN SAID, UM, IT'S IN A CITY PARK.

UH, CALL UP THE O THE, THE PARK RANGERS.

THEY SAID THEY'D BE THERE IN 14 DAYS.

I HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO HAS GUNS AS A HUNTER, AND I COULD HAVE ASKED HIM TO GO OUT, SHOOT THE DEER, BUT THAT WOULD PROBABLY ILLEGAL THREE WAYS.

IT'S NOT IN SEASON.

UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD A HUNTING LICENSE.

AND THIS DISCHARGEABLE WEAPON IN THE CITY LIMITS.

IT'S, UH, THE THREE ILLEGAL THINGS.

UM, SO FORTUNATELY I HAD JASON'S NUMBER AND JASON, I COULDN'T SEND A VET BECAUSE THOSE DRUGS THAT YOU EUTHANIZE YOU CANNOT TAKE OUT.

THOSE ARE DANGEROUS DRUGS.

I, YOU KNOW, BUT JASON, WITHIN 15 MINUTES HAD TWO YOUNG EXCELLENT POLICE OFFICERS SHOW UP.

THEY WERE REALLY GOOD.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.

BUT THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL THEY HAD GOT IT CLEARED THROUGH THEIR P THE POLICE TO FIRE A WEAPON IN A PARK.

'CAUSE THEY NEEDED A A.

AND SO WE SAT THERE FOR ANOTHER HALF HOUR.

K, CRAIG, CAN I INTERRUPT JUST A MINUTE.

IS IT OKAY IF, IS EVERYBODY AGREE? WE CAN KEEP GOING.

OKAY.

SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND SO THERE WAS JUST NOTHING TO DO.

IF I, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE MY NUMBER AND I HAD JASON'S NUMBER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED.

I JUST, THAT DEER WOULD'VE JUST HAD TO DIE ON ITS OWN THERE.

I, UH, SO I THINK THIS RESOLUTION, I THINK THIS IS A RELATIVELY EASILY SOLVABLE PROBLEM.

I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH THE POLICE.

I DON'T THINK IT THE APOS SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL.

I DON'T SEE HOW THEY COULD REALLY, UH, BUT THE POLICE COULD DO THIS.

THEY COULD HAVE A PROTOCOL FOR CALLS LIKE THIS AND THAT YOU COULD EITHER, WE COULD EITHER ASK CITY COUNCIL OR ASK, UM, UM, THE, THE CITY MANAGER COULD EVEN DO THIS ON HIS OWN.

BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS.

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN.

MAYBE ONLY ONCE A YEAR.

WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I, THIS WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, IT'S PROPER PROTOCOL THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS, WE SECOND THEN DISCUSSION AND THEN WE VOTE.

UM, EVERY, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

BUT WE, USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE DISCUSS, DISCUSS, THEN WE MAKE AN MOTION SECOND, AND THEN WE VOTE THE REVERSE.

SO IS THERE SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION? ME? OKAY.

CAN YOU READ THE MOTION, PLEASE? I LOVE THE IDEA TO HAVE SOME, OH, NO.

UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW IN MY BRAIN.

I LOVE THE IDEA TO, IT IS TOO COMPLICATED RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

YES.

BECAUSE JUST THE DESIGNATION.

YES.

IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION? COMMISSIONER SMLA? I JUST ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

UM, YES.

FROM THE, THE SPEAKER WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONE PER, WE HAVE ONE PERSON, UH, COMMISSIONER SMLA

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FIRST, AND THEN I'LL COME TO YOU.

OH, I'M SORRY.

OH, YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

OKAY, NOW I'M CONFUSED.

SO AM I DOING A MOTION FOR THIS? AND THEN WE VOTE, HAVE DISCUSSION.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU MAKE A MOTION, SOMEBODY SECONDS, AND THEN IT'S DISCUSSION AND THEN WE DISCUSS AND THEN WE VOTE.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE PROPER ORDER.

ALRIGHT.

I MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT THE COMMISSION LOOK INTO PASSING A RESOLUTION TO ALLOW A PD TO PUT SUFFERING WILDLIFE, DEER, IN PARTICULAR ADULT DEER, UM, OUT OF HUMANELY HUMANELY EUTHANIZE OR HUMANELY, HOWEVER YOU WANNA SAY IT.

SORRY.

THANKS.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT DISCUSSION.

UH, I THINK WE HAVE COMMISSIONER HOLT.

YEAH.

THIS IS JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT A PD WOULD BE CALLED AND WOULD USE THEIR FIREARM TO EUTHANIZE SUFFERING ANIMALS.

IS THAT THE, THE GIST OF IT? YES.

I'M SEEING COMM COMMISSIONER NEER NODDING, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YES, YES.

COMMISSIONER HOLT, THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND, AND COMMISSIONER HERRERA? YES.

WE'RE IN DISCUSSION, RIGHT? YES.

I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT IT'S, UH, HUMAN EUTHANASIA, BECAUSE I THINK HUMAN EUTHANASIA, IT'S, IT'S JUST BY, BY INJECTION AND NOT BY FAR IT CAN BE A FIREARM.

OKAY.

AND THE OTHER ONE, IT'S WHAT? IT'S AN INJURED DEER, YOU KNOW, DEFINE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF INJURY CAN THREATEN THE LIFE OF A, OF A DEER.

BECAUSE I THINK, UH, WILDLIFE, DON'T PICK HIM UP.

DEERS FIX THE, THE LEG AND LEAVE IT AROUND AGAIN.

RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER BRUCE, I MEAN, SORRY, DR. BRUCE.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

UM, ARE WE CERTAIN THAT A PD DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING OUTLINING THIS? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME OTHER CITIES I'VE BEEN IN HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

LIKE, SO HAVE WE CHECKED INTO THAT? SO COMMISSIONERS, WE, WE DO HAVE A PROCESS FOR IT.

UM, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK.

SO IF THE PEOPLE DID CALL 3 0 1, 3 0 1 WILL WILL PUT IN A SERVICE TICKET TO APOS.

AND DEPENDING ON, THEY WILL ASSESS THE SITUATION.

IF IT IS A LARGE DEER OR, OR DEER OR, OR, OR LARGE WILDLIFE, THEN WE WILL NOTIFY A PD AND THEN THEY WILL GO OUT AND, AND ASSESS.

AND, AND THEY ARE TASKED WITH, WITH SORT OF EUTHANIZING THE ANIMAL.

AND SO, I MEAN, I, I'M CURIOUS IF THEY HAD CALLED 9 1 1 VERSUS 3 1 1, IF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN PROCESSED IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER.

UH, THIS ISN'T A UNIQUE SITUATION.

AND I GUESS I'M FAMILIAR WITH A PD DISPOSING OF INJURED DEER THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME.

I'M CURIOUS WHY IT FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS.

AND I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL, I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CALL AND FLOWCHART.

THAT IS THE SERVICE, WHATEVER THE SERVICE CALL WITH THREE ONE ONE.

SO IT'S CONVERSATION 3 0 1 A PD.

BUT USUALLY THE WAY THE PROCESS GOES IS 3 0 1 WILL NOTIFY US AND THEN WE WILL NOTIFY A PD.

WE HAVE A A A A, UM, CONNECT OR A CONTACT WITH THEM FOR, FOR THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO THIS ISN'T THE, FOR OTHER INSTANCES IN THE PAST, THIS IS, THIS IS HOW WE'VE HANDLED IT AND WORK WITH THEM TO, FOR THAT TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

SO, AND THIS IS A TYPICAL AFTER HOURS, I MEAN, DEAR ACTIVE DAWN AND DUSK.

YES.

IF THIS IS GONNA OCCUR, IT'S PROBABLY AFTER HOURS.

THERE'S A PRO, THERE IS, UH, A PO AVAILABLE TO TAKE THOSE CALLS SO THAT THIS CAN BE PROCESSED.

SO WE HAVE APOS ON CALL.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND, UM, AND, AND A PD WILL BE DISPATCHED AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESSES, WHICH I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO, BUT THAT DOES SOUND RIGHT.

WHATEVER THE, THE OFFICERS DID, UH, DID, UH, ARTICULATE TO MR. NATURE, THEY PROBABLY DO HAVE TO GET THE APPROVAL BEFORE THEY CAN DISCHARGE THEIR, THEIR FIREARMS AS WELL.

AND THEN WHATEVER SUBSEQUENT, UH, DOCUMENTATION.

SO, SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

I, I HEARD THAT THAT FEAR WAS FOR 14 DAYS.

I THINK SOMEONE COULDN'T RESPOND BEFORE 14 DAYS.

I'M SORRY.

YES.

UH, CRAIG, COULD YOU, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLARIFY? UM, THE PARK RANGERS COULD NOT BE THERE FOR 14 DAYS.

OKAY.

UH, THESE PEOPLE, UH, THE PEOPLE CALLED THREE ONE ONE THREE ONE ONE DID NOT CALL APOS.

THEY TOLD THEM THEY COULDN'T.

UH, THE, THE ISSUE IS WHATEVER WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN DID NOT HAPPEN.

AND THE REASON SOMETHING HAPPENED WAS BECAUSE I HAD JASON'S PHONE NUMBER IN MY PHONE.

NOT EVERYONE'S GONNA HAVE THAT.

BUT IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE THE REASON IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WAS BECAUSE 3 1 1 WASN'T

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FOLLOWING ESTABLISHED PROTOCOLS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JASON? SO, SO AGAIN, WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH 3 1 1 ON THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, WHEN AFTER MR. NASER CALLED ME, I, I FOLLOWED UP WITH MY STAFF, JUST, HEY, MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.

WE CALLED A PD, THEY WERE, THEY, THEY DISPATCHED WHO THEY NEEDED TO.

SO ONCE THE PROCESS WAS, WAS IMPLEMENTED, IT WENT THROUGH THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO.

COMMISSIONER LINDER, THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS WELL.

OKAY.

WHETHER THIS WAS A, UM, A PROCESS PROBLEM OR 3 1 1, IT IS A PROCESS AND WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW UP THAT, UH, THE PROTOCOLS WITH 3 1 1 AND A DEER FOLLOW THE CHAIN AND GO TO A PD DIRECTLY.

SO WE, WE WILL FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS STILL THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SET UP.

UH, COMMISSIONER SULA.

SO, YEAH, SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A PROCESS, IT WAS SIMPLY MISSED IN THIS INCIDENT.

SO A PROCESS IS ALREADY IN PLACE WITH 3 1 1 JUST WASN'T FOLLOWED.

UM, AND YOU'RE GONNA GET WITH 3 1 1 AND WORK ON THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, UM, WHEN THE ANIMAL IS PUT OUT OF ITS SUFFERING, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AT THAT POINT? DOES, DOES A PD TAKE IT OR IS THAT, WOULD THERE A, AN A PO NEED TO BE PRESENT TO TAKE IT? UM, I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY, BUT, YOU KNOW, MY TIME.

CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THEN THEY PUT IN A SERVICE REQUEST TO, UH, AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY.

AND THEN THEY WILL PICK UP THE, THE DECEASED DAM.

IF I MAY MAKE A REQUEST.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT TO BE SETTLED.

VERBIAGE FOR HUMANE EUTHANASIA, UM, HOW THEY'RE EUTHANIZED.

UM, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S LAWS IN PLACE.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST MAYBE A WORKING GROUP AND WE CAN HANDLE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IN TWO WAYS.

WE COULD VOTE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY VOTE NO OR VOTE IT.

VOTE YES.

SUSTAIN OR LET IT DIE.

OR PULL IT BACK.

AND THEN YOU, YOU, YOU AGREE TO THE PULLBACK AND IT GOES AWAY.

AND THEN WE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO FORM A WORKING GROUP, MAYBE.

YES.

SO AT THIS TIME, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION SINCE THE PROCESS IS IN PLACE.

OKAY.

AND I WOULD, YEAH, LIKE TO FORM A WORKING GROUP TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CURRENT PROCESS IS, IF IT NEEDS TO BE EMBELLISHED OR ADDED TO.

OKAY.

AND GO FROM THERE.

AND DO YOU ACCEPT THAT CHANGE? SECOND.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST WANNA, UM, THANK THE CITIZEN WHO TOOK ALL OF THAT TIME.

UM, I KNOW THAT IS EMOTIONAL LABOR AND PHYSICAL LABOR AND NOW IT IS BUREAUCRATIC LABOR.

AND YOU WERE DOING A LOT, UM, TO LOOK OUT, TO REDUCE THE SUFFERING OF ANIMALS.

AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU AND COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF FORMING A WORKING GROUP.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

SAY, AYE.

BOTH ONE OR THE OTHER? UM, IT LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER ZAES.

LONEY.

UH, HOLT HUDDLESTON.

EMER.

R.

YES.

SULA? YES.

NIELSEN? YES.

TUCKER? YES.

HERRERA? YES.

LINDER? YES.

UH, ANY AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED? DR. BRUCE? OPPOSED? OKAY.

THE MOTION PASSES.

UH, FU FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER FOUR.

I ALWAYS TRY TO GET THEM OUT OF ORDER, DON'T I? IT'S THE GLASSES.

I BLAME THE GLASSES.

NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION AND UPDATE

[4. Discussion and Update from the Finder to Foster Working Group.]

FROM FINDER.

FROM THE FINDER TO FOSTER WORKING GROUP.

YEAH, DR. NELSON.

I GUESS THERE'S STILL SOME DEBATE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE OFFICIALLY EXIST AS A WORKING GROUP, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE VIOLATING ANY RULES BY MEETING, UM, IN LESS THAN A QUORUM WITH INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE.

AND, UM, THAT HAS HAPPENED.

UM, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE MET WITH DIRECTOR BLAND TO KIND OF TRY TO CLARIFY WHAT, UM, THE SHELTER'S UNDERSTANDING IS OF THE LEGAL HURDLES THAT ARE PREVENTING THIS.

AND THEN, UM, I MET WITH COMMISSIONERS, UM, SULA AND COMMISSIONER HOLT, AND THEN COURTNEY CLAUDINE, CLAUDINE, SORRY, CLAUDINE, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE ISSUE.

UM, AND ESSENTIALLY, UH, IN THE CITY ORDINANCE THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, UM, WHEN AN ANIMAL IS ADMITTED TO THE SHELTER, IT MUST BE HELD FOR THE STRAY WEIGHT.

THE STRAY HOLD.

AND CITY LEGAL IS INTERPRETING THAT AS IT MUST

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HOLD IT PHYSICALLY AT THE SHELTER FOR THREE DAYS.

UM, SO WITHOUT THE SHELTER BEING A POSITION TO DO THAT, IT CANNOT IMPOUND THE ANIMAL AND CAN'T HAVE THE ANIMAL IN FOSTER.

UM, SO YOU'RE FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I AM MISREPRESENTING THAT AS FAR AS YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

DIRECTOR BLAND, IS THAT A NEW THING? NO.

CAN SHOW IT TO YOU? NO, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.

THE IMPOUNDMENT HAS TO BE PHYSICALLY AT THE SHELTERED ACCOUNT.

HMM.

I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT.

HERE.

IT'S IN THIS, IT'S IN THE ONE YOU PRESENTED IN PAST .

LET'S SEE.

I THINK, AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT'S THIS VIDEO OF AUSTIN ATTORNEYS HAVE TAKEN THAT POSSESSION.

YES, MA'AM.

HOLD AN IMPOUNDED.

OKAY.

SO SECTION, WHAT IS THIS? CAN YOU STATE IT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THIS IS, UM, THIS IS THE AUSTIN TEXAS CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE THREE, ANIMAL REGULATION, CHAPTER THREE, ONE GENERAL PRO PROVISIONS.

UM, ARTICLE TWO ADMINISTRATION, I GUESS.

THEN 3 1 25 SUBSECTION C READS, EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBSECTION D, WHICH DOES NOT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

THE HEALTH AUTHORITY SHALL HOLD AN IMPOUNDED ANIMAL NOT SURRENDERED BY ITS OWNER FOR A PERIOD OF THREE BUSINESS DAYS FOLLOWING IMPOUNDMENT OF THE ANIMAL FOR OWNER RECLAMATION ON THE FOURTH BUSINESS DAY.

THE IMPOUNDED ANIMAL IS THE PROPERTY OF THE HEALTH AUTHORITY.

SO CITY LEGAL READS THAT AS ANY ANIMAL TAKEN INTO THE SHELTER'S CARE MUST INITIALLY BE HELD AT THE SHELTER FOR PHYSICALLY HELD AT THE SHELTER FOR THE STRAY HOLD.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, A FINDER TO FOSTER PROGRAM WOULD BE, WOULDN'T HAVE THIS SAME LEGAL HURDLE IF THIS ORDINANCE WERE MODIFIED TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE THE HEALTH AUTHORITY SHALL HOLD OR MAKE MAINTAIN POSSESSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OR, MM-HMM.

OWNERSHIP OR, OR, OR EVEN JUST SOMETHING LIKE POST OR GUARDIANSHIP MAKE RE REASONABLY AVAILABLE ON A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE WEBSITE.

MM-HMM.

THE IMAGE AND AN INFORMATION.

YES.

DIRECTOR.

BOY, IF YOU MODIFIED IT SO THAT IMPOUNDMENT STARTED WHEN THE ANIMAL WAS PLACED INTO THE DATABASE AND AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING ON THE WEBSITE.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD SOLVE THE ISSUE.

OKAY.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE IN THE WORKING GROUP WANNA COMMENT OR ANY NO, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER IRA? YES.

THE ANIMAL NEEDS TO GO PHYSICALLY TO THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, OR EVERYTHING CAN BE ONLINE.

LIKE IF SOMEONE FIND A DOG AND THEY ARE OKAY, FINE TO FOSTER THE ANIMAL IN THAT MOMENT, BEGIN TO COUNT OR NEEDS TO GO TO THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, TAKE A PICTURE AND UP.

NOW I, I THINK THE SHELTER COULD WORK ON THAT.

OKAY.

IF WE DID SOMETHING TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE, OUR CITY ORDINANCES NO LONGER PREVENTED THE FINDER TO FOSTER FROM HAPPENING.

OKAY.

BECAUSE OF THIS WORDING AND THAT THE SHELTER CAN WORK OUT EXACTLY HOW THEY NEED TO IMPLEMENT IT AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

AND THEN, SO ALONG WITH THIS, I JUST WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT, UM, IF WE ADD ADVOCATE FOR THIS, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING, I THINK IT'S ALSO INCUMBENT ON US TO ADVOCATE FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR STAFFING OF FOSTER COORDINATORS.

'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE ANIMALS, UM, IN THE CARE OF THE SHELTER.

THAT TAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE COORDINATING AND MAKE SURE, MAKING SURE THOSE ANIMALS ARE GETTING PREVENTATIVE CARE.

AND WHEN THEY GET ILL, THEY ARE DEALT WITH.

AND SO, ESPECIALLY FOSTER COORDINATORS AND VET SERVICES, IT, THIS IS GONNA PUT, UM, A HIGHER DEMAND ON THEM AND THAT WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE SUPPORTED.

UM, BUT I, BUT I THINK AT THE VERY, THE, THE INITIAL HURDLE IS

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OUR CITY ORDINANCE IS CAUSING AN OBSTRUCTION.

AND IF WE CAN GET RID OF THAT OBSTRUCTION, THEN THE SHELTER'S FREE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WOULD IMPLEMENT IT.

AND THEN WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM WITH RESOURCES.

SO THAT'S THE UPDATE.

ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOR THE WORKING GROUP? UM, IF WE COULD DO JUST A BIT OF HOUSE CLEANING, KEEP UP OR CLEAN UP FOR ON THIS ISSUE.

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER WHO SECONDED ? WAS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER HOLT.

COMMISSIONER HOLT? DO YOU REMEMBER? SECOND SECONDING COMMISSIONER HOLT? DID YOU SECOND THAT ONE? I THINK I DID.

OKAY.

BUT I AM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAINTY.

.

OKAY.

I CAN RETROACTIVELY SECOND IT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UH, IF THAT IS .

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT SECONDED.

WE BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HOLT SECONDED THE FORMATION OF THE FOSTER FINDER WORKING GROUP.

I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE .

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? QUESTIONS OR, OKAY.

UH, NOW I'M GONNA TRY TO, CAN I ASK, SORRY.

OH, YES.

JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

YES.

'CAUSE I KNOW THAT ORDINANCES DON'T CHANGE JUST BECAUSE WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY DO.

SO, UM, FUNCTIONALLY, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE WAY THAT WE CAN SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS IN FRONT OF COUNSEL OR LEGAL YEAH.

WHOEVER THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE THAT CAN ACTUALLY CHANGE THIS.

YES.

IT, UH, IF SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF, IF IT'S DIFFERENT NOW, BUT IT USED TO BE THAT THE CHAIR WOULD DELIVER THE, A PAPER VERSION TO EVERY COUNSEL OFFICE.

AND I BELIEVE NOW IT IS AN ELECTRONIC PROCESS THAT THE, IF IT PASSES THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION, THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION GOES TO COUNCIL ELECTRONICALLY.

AND I'M NOT SURE THE PROCESS, IT'S AN ELECTRONIC FORMAT, I BELIEVE.

AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO HELP IF YOU CONTACT EACH OF YOUR COUNCIL OFFICES AND ASK FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

ASK FOR THEIR STAFF MEMBERS' SUPPORT, AND NOT JUST THEIR SUPPORT, BUT ASK FOR ONE OF THEM TO CHAMPION IT AND, AND SPONSOR IT.

AND, UH, THEN, UH, CO-SPONSOR A SECOND, OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THEIR OFFICES TO SUPPORT IT.

AND, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY ADVICE.

OTHERS MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS TO SUGGEST.

UH, COMMISSIONER LINDER, UM, THIS IS AN UNRELATED QUESTION.

SO, UM, BUT, UH, I, I, I KNOW SOME STATES HAVE, UM, MANDATORY MINIMUM HOLD PERIODS, BUT WE'RE TEXAS DOES NOT HAVE ONE.

I ASSUME, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY CHANGING STATE LAW IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEAL, BUT THIS IS ONLY CODIFIED IN CITY CODE RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S NO TEXAS STATE LAW.

SO THERE IS A STATE LAW, UM, FOR THREE DAYS THAT AN ANIMAL HAS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE TO RECLAIM IT.

UM, IT IS NOT A STATE LAW THAT THEY HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BE IN A SHELTER.

THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE CARE OF A SHELTER.

UM, AND THAT COULD BE IN A FOSTER HOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID YOU, NO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, WE WILL MOVE

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

ON TO NEXT TIME.

, FUTURE, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. .

AND YOU, JUST TO, AS A REMINDER, YOU CAN ALWAYS PUT AN A, AN, AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA ANYTIME.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RIGHT NOW, IT JUST TAKES TWO PEOPLE TO PUT IT ON.

UM, ANYTHING RIGHT NOW OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED FORWARD.

FOR EXAMPLE, WORKING GROUP, UH, FIND YOUR FOSTER WORKING GROUP OR, RIGHT.

I, I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UM, A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE FINDER TO FOSTER WORKING GROUP IN JANUARY.

OKAY.

THERE'S A MOTION FOR, UH, AGENDA ITEM FOR FINDER TO FOSTER AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, UNDER POSSIBLE ACTION FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, FINDER TO FOSTER WORKING GROUP.

A SECOND.

I SECOND DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR? I GUESS THAT'S IT.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO VOTE.

IT'S TWO TWO ON THERE.

SO IT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU.

UH, YES.

SECONDARY.

UH, YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

.

ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? AND THEN I GUESS PER THE REQUEST OF THE PERSON FOR, FROM THE PUBLIC, I WOULD MOVE TO PUT, UM,

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PUT CONSIDERATION OF A FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET ENGINE ON THE JANUARY AGENDA.

YES, I SECOND.

IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST FOR A REVIEW OF THE EMANCIPATE CONTRACT.

UM, CAN YOU FORM? YES.

UM, MAKE A MOTION? HOW ABOUT, UM, I GUESS WOULD THAT BE ANOTHER WORKING GROUP? UM, WOULD THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE SAME ONE.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE UNDER BUDGET.

OKAY.

BECAUSE SHE BROUGHT THAT UP UNDER THE BUDGET, RIGHT? MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY.

I, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

SECOND LENDER.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND? YES.

OKAY.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.