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FEBRUARY 5TH REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? SHELBY? ALL RIGHT.NO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION TODAY.
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MINUTES.IF EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY MEETING, UH, UH, SOMEBODY COULD MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYONE'S, UH, BY THE WAY, VIRTUAL TODAY EXCEPT FOR ME HERE.
SO, UH, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO KEEP THIS INTERACTIVE
SO, UM, I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD.
UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
ALL IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER HON.
UH, DID YOU HAVE, UH, DID YOU WANT A VOTE? AYE, YEAH, I'M JUST ABSTAINING.
I, I DIDN'T, UH, HAVE A CHANCE TO WATCH THE MEETING, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAPPENED OR NOT, BUT, GOT IT.
SO, BUT, UH, HOW DOES THAT WORK THOUGH? BECAUSE THAT GIVES US ONLY FIVE VOTES.
SO DO WE, UH, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUSH IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE, UH, TWO SETS OF MINUTES.
UH, SO WE'LL, UH, PUSH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY MEETING TO, UH, THE NEXT, UH, COMMISSION MEETINGS AGENDA, UM, STAFF BRIEFINGS.
[2. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]
UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, UPDATE BY KIM MC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, EDD.HELLO, KIM, MCC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER WITH MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.
AND I'LL BE GIVING AN UPDATE TONIGHT ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE, BUT ABOVE THE ORANGE BAR ON THIS SECOND COLUMN HERE IS A LITTLE GRAY LINE THAT REPRESENTS DECEMBER WITH HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS OF 4,903.
IF YOU'LL LOOK DIRECTLY TO YOUR LEFT AT LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS, THIS LINE, THIS NUMBER, IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT WAS COLLECTED AT THAT TIME LAST YEAR.
SO WE HAVE THE UPDATED YEAR TO DATE ENCUMBRANCES FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 24, NOW AT, UH, 931,943, AND THAT INCLUDES THE 4,903 NUMBER FOR DECEMBER.
SO, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR KIM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
[3. Live music venue eligibility for 2024 Live Music Fund update, Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]
THE AGENDA IS LIVE MUSIC VENUE ELIGIBILITY FOR 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND UPDATE, ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, EDD HELLO COMMISSIONERS.UM, ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
ACTUALLY, IT'S GONNA BE AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.
THAT WAS THE, UM, EXEC THING THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA LAST TIME, BUT IT'S COVERED SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSIONERS AN OVERVIEW OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE, UH, FROM THE INIT FROM OUR PILOT PROGRAM, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM TO THE 2024 PROGRAM, WHICH WE ARE REBRANDING TO AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND.
I MEAN, SO ALL OF THIS NEEDS TO BE MARKETED TO POTENTIAL TOURISTS AND CONVENTION DELEGATES.
SO HAVING THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND AS THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR MARKETING COMPONENT, I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA.
AND THEN WE CAN JUST DELINEATE IT BY YEAR.
SO HERE'S JUST SOME UPDATE INFORMATION.
WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST TIME, BUT AS A REMINDER, YOU'LL BE RECEIVING THIS PRESENTATION.
SO GO AND, UH, CLICK ON ANYTHING TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE HISTORY.
UH, SO WHAT HAS REMAINED THE CORE EQUITY PRINCIPLES OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, AS WELL AS THE PROGRAM PURPOSE? SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS FUND IS TO SHOWCASE AUSTIN'S DIVERSE, UH, MUSIC INDUSTRY AND TO EXPAND ITS ECOSYSTEM AND CREATE NEW AND AUDIENCES NOT ONLY HERE, BUT ALL AROUND THE WORLD FOR AUSTIN'S MUSICIANS AND
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BANDS AND PROMOTERS.AND NOW, LIVE MUSIC VENUES, THE CORE EQUITY PRINCIPLES REMAIN THE SAME.
UM, BUT YOU'LL SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE SCORING LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, HOW WE'RE GOING TO SCORE FOR REALLY WHO YOU ARE, UH, FROM AN ACCESS TO SERVICES AND A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY POINT OF VIEW.
AND THEN WE WILL, UH, REQUIRE OF OUR AWARDEES THAT, UH, EQUITY TRAINING AS WELL AS AN EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN, BE PART OF THEIR DELIVERABLES TO THE CITY.
AND OF COURSE, WE WILL, AS ALWAYS, PROVIDE GREAT TRAINING AND SOME, AND TEMPLATES AND SUPPORT, UH, TO HELP DO THAT WORK.
AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF INTERESTING AND COOL.
AND, UH, MOST OF IT WAS ESTABLISHED DURING THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PRESERVATION PROGRAM DURING RELIEF AND RECOVERY.
GOT TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR VENUES, UH, TO WORK WITH JOYCE JAMES CONSULTING ON OUR EQUITY STRATEGIES.
AGAIN, THE THREE GROUPS OF ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS FOR 2024 IS NOW INCLUSIVE OF LIVE MUSIC VENUES IN ADDITION TO PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS.
UM, UH, THE DEFINITIONS AREN'T HERE SINCE YOU SAW THEM LAST TIME, SO YOU CAN OF COURSE GO TO THIS PRESENTATION AND WE WILL LINK YOU TO THE, UM, GUIDELINES ONCE THEY'RE ON THE WEBSITE.
SO, FOR INELIGIBLE APPLICANTS, UM, IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL TO WHAT YOU SAW LAST YEAR.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE COVERING ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, UH, BASED ON WHAT WE LEARNED, AND JUST THAT, JUST MAKE IT MORE CLEAR ACROSS GUIDELINES OF WHO IS INELIGIBLE.
AND ONE THING WE'VE DECIDED IS THAT APPLICANTS WHO, UM, RECEIVE THE CULTURAL ARTS FUND IN THE SAME YEAR, UM, CANNOT RECEIVE A LIVE MUSIC FUND.
AND SO THAT IS AN ORDINANCE DIFFERENCE.
UH, AND THIS WAS THE CASE FOR LAST YEAR, BUT WE'RE JUST MAKING IT VERY CLEAR.
SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION THAT, UM, WE WOULD LIKE FOR APPLICANTS TO CHOOSE, BECAUSE BY ORDINANCE, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH, UH, YOU CAN'T HAVE GRANTS FROM BOTH FUNDS IN THE SAME YEAR.
UM, LET'S SEE, ALSO THAT, UM, I MEAN, EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, UH, FROM LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF INELIGIBLE APPLICANTS.
AND THIS IS A DIFFERENCE, AND THIS IS EXCITING.
'CAUSE OF COURSE, WE LEARNED A LOT.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF LAST YEAR'S, EITHER FIVE OR $10,000 AWARDS WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO TRY TO SPREAD THE MONEY AS FAR AND WIDE AS POSSIBLE.
UH, BUT FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE RIGORS OF ACTUALLY DOING THE GRANT APPLICATION AND ALSO WHAT INVESTMENT WOULD REALLY HAVE THE MOST IMPACT, WE'D LIKE TO SEE LARGER GRANTS.
SO THE PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS CAN NOW CHOOSE FOR, UM, EITHER 15 OR INTO $30,000.
AND THEN FOR VENUES, IF YOU HAVE AN OPERATING BUDGET BELOW A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU CAN GET 30.
AND FOR VENUES OVER 100,000, YOU CAN GET 60.
UM, AND ANOTHER WAY THAT WE'VE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RESHUFFLED THE SCORING IS THAT SINCE WE'RE NOT SCORING FOR PROJECTS, YOU CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR ANY ELIGIBLE EXPENSES FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE YEAR, AS LONG AS YOU'RE PROMOTING EVERYTHING YOU DO TO POTENTIAL VISITORS AND TO, UH, CONVENTION DELEGATES, AND OF COURSE TO LOCAL AUDIENCES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING MUSIC KNOWS HOW TO DO IS, UH, SPREAD THE WORD OF OF THEIR MUSIC.
SO, AGAIN, HERE ARE THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, UH, THAT CAN BE USED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UH, FOR THE, FOR THE WHOLE GRANT, WE JUST WANNA SEE A COHESIVE MARKETING PLAN, UH, FROM ALL OF THE AWARDEES ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING IS BEING, UM, MARKETED TO TOURISTS AND POTENTIAL, UH, CONVENTION DELEGATES, AS WELL AS TO THE LOCAL AUDIENCES.
AND SO, UM, JUST ANYONE YOU CAN START TALKING TO US ABOUT THIS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, LIKE I SAID, ALL THIS INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.
WE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING SUPPORT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY MAY HAVE.
SO, THE INELIGIBLE EXPENSES, AGAIN, LEARNING FROM THE LAST TIME, MAKING IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE, EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS THE CASE LAST YEAR, WE JUST WANNA BE EXTREMELY CLEAR WITH EVERYONE OF WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THE FUNDS.
SO, PROJECT EXPENSES PAID BEFORE THE APPLICATION DUE DATE.
AND SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE LIKE PAYING A GRANT WRITER TO DO THE GRANT, FOR INSTANCE.
UM, ANY KIND OF CAPITAL COSTS, LIKE FOR CONSTRUCTION, UH, BIG EQUIPMENT PURCHASES STILL NOT ALLOWED.
UM, AND ALSO, UH, FOR APPLICANTS, BECAUSE YOU CAN STILL BE A NONPROFIT VERSION OF A, YOU KNOW, A MUSICIAN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER OR A LIVE MUSIC VENUE, UM, YOU CANNOT, UH, USE THIS MONEY FOR FUNDRAISING EXPENSES, UM, FOR PROFITS, DO FUNDRAISERS, YOU KNOW, A BENEFIT FOR HAM AS FOR INSTANCE.
YOU'LL FIND THAT IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, AND THAT IS ALLOWED.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS WHERE THE SCORING IS DIFFERENT.
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FOR THE MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS, AND ONE FOR THE VENUES.UH, SO WE'RE REALLY GONNA FOCUS ON LIKE WHO, WHO YOU ARE LIMITED, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR ACCESS TO SERVICES, AND IF YOU HAVE A MORE LIMITED ACCESS, UH, THEN YOU GET MORE POINTS.
AND THEN YOUR LOCAL ECONOMIC IMPACT ABOUT HIRING MUSICIANS, CREATIVES, CREATIVE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, FOR MERCH, UH, PRODUCTION, VIDEO PRODUCTION, UM, ALL OF THAT.
THE MORE THAT YOU DO, YOU SUPPORT THAT IN AUSTIN, YOU GET ADDITIONAL POINTS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WE WANNA SEE IN THE PROGRAMMING AND OUTREACH THAT THE GRANT FUNDED ACTIVITIES, WHATEVER THEY ARE, EXPAND THE AUDIENCES AND AMPLIFY AUSTIN'S DIVERSE ARTS AND CULTURE SECTORS.
UH, WE WANNA SEE THE MARKETING STRATEGIES BOTH PAID AND UNPAID TO GAIN THOSE NEW AUDIENCES, INCLUDING TOURISTS AND CONVENTION DELEGATES.
AND AGAIN, AS LIKE LAST TIME, THERE WILL BE TRAINING, YOU KNOW, FOR MARKETING, THAT'S EXCELLENT AND WILL REALLY HELP THE, THE AWARDEES.
AND THEN ALSO A CATEGORY IS ACCESSIBILITY, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU CREATING, UM, FEATURES FOR DISABLED AUDIENCES TO ENJOY PROGRAMMING? UM, HOW ARE YOU, UH, DOING CONTENT IN NON-ENGLISH FOR, FOR NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING COMMUNITIES, LIKE INCLUDING PROGRAMMING OR AT LEAST JUST TRANSLATIONS AT YOUR EVENT OR YOUR PROJECT.
AND THEN WE JUST, YOU WILL GET EXTRA POINTS IF YOUR GRANT FUNDED ACTIVITIES ARE ACTUALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A RECORD STUDIO TIME IS ELIGIBLE HERE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA GET MORE POINTS IF YOU HAVE THAT PUBLIC FACING, UM, ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, IT'S DEFINITELY TRUE TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IN TERMS OF MARKETING TO POTENTIAL TOURISTS.
AND SO NO BETTER WAY TO DO THAT THAN TO OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS TO AUDIENCES.
BUT FROM JUST A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT, UM, WE WANNA SEE MUSICIANS OUT ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO ENJOY WHAT IT IS WE LOVE SO MUCH ABOUT AUSTIN.
SO YOU'LL GET EXTRA POINTS FOR THAT.
AND SO IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE, UH, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM GRANT LAST YEAR, YOU WILL GET A BONUS POINTS OF 15 POINTS.
AND THIS IS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC VENUES.
AGAIN, EXACT SAME CATEGORIES, BUT WITH JUST DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIERS BECAUSE BASICALLY VENUES IS APPLES AND ORANGES.
AND SO WE ASK DIFFERENT TYPES OF QUESTIONS, WE SCORE THEM DIFFERENTLY, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OF HOW TO SET UP THESE SCORING CATEGORIES THAT'S RELEVANT TO VENUES.
SO AGAIN, LIMITED ACCESS TO SERVICES, UM, EITHER THAT YOU JUST HAVE, YOU JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO PROVIDE HEALTHCARE.
YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO GET A LOAN BECAUSE YOU GOTTA HAVE CREDIT TO GET A LOAN.
AND THE CATCH 22 GET, GET, UM, GETS YOU.
AND THEN ALSO ANY VENUES LOCATED IN A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACK, LIKE LAST YEAR, YOU GET EXTRA POINTS FOR THAT.
UM, AGAIN, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, THE VENUES HAVE TO BE LOCATED IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT OR IN THE EXTRA TER UH, TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
UM, UH, AND THAT IS, UH, ONE, BUT IF IT'S IN A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACK, ON TOP OF THAT, YOU GET EXTRA POINTS.
UH, ALSO LOCAL, UM, ECONOMIC IMPACT.
WE WANNA SEE, UM, A CONSISTENT DEDICATION TO HIRING LOCAL MUSICIANS AND OTHER CREATIVES.
UH, IF YOU COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE CO-LOCATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER, UH, CREATIVES TO LIKE, HELP TO RINSE SPACE WITH YOU TO, TO, TO DEFLECT COSTS, UM, OR YOU COULD, UH, PROVIDE YOUR SPACE, UH, UH, FREE OR LOW COST TO OTHER CREATIVES INSIDE OF AUSTIN OR IN AUSTIN.
UM, THEN ALSO JUST HOW MANY PERMANENT JOBS ARE SUPPORTED, WHICH IS LIKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ON THE PAYROLL? UM, THAT IS DEFINITE LOCAL, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT.
UH, THEN ALSO INTERNSHIP, APPRENTICESHIPS.
AND THEN IF YOU HIRE LOCAL BUSINESSES FOR LIKE, AND WHEN WE MEAN BUSINESS OPERATIONS, IT COULD BE YOUR MARKETING MATERIALS, ANY DESIGNER WHEN YOU'RE GETTING YOUR MERCH PRODUCED.
'CAUSE VENUES DO THE SAME AS MUSICIANS.
SO THE MORE WE SEE IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY, THE MORE POINTS YOU GET.
AND SO FOR THE PROGRAMMING AND OUTREACH, AGAIN, GRANT FUNDED ACTIVITIES EXPAND THE AUDIENCES TO, TO AMPLIFY AS THE AUSTIN DIVERSE ARTS AND CULTURE SECTORS.
TONS OF MARKETING STRATEGIES, BOTH PAID UNPAID TO REACH THOSE AUDIENCES AND POTENTIAL TOURISTS.
SAME THING WITH ACCESSIBILITY.
WHAT FEATURES ARE PROVIDED IN THE VENUE AND WHAT PROGRAM IS GEARED TOWARDS NON-ENGLISH SPEAKING COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND IF YOU, AND WE JUST SAID IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, DID NOT RECEIVE CITY OF AUSTIN GRANT FUNDING IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE CSAP CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
AND SO YOU GET AN EXTRA 10 POINTS IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE A GRANT BEFORE.
AND THESE ARE THE AWARDEE COMMITMENTS I WAS, UH, TALKING ABOUT.
UH, BY TAKING THE SHIFT OF THE EQUITY POINTS AND PUTTING IT REALLY MORE ON THE COMMITMENTS OF THE AWARDEES, IT GIVES US A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND WE'VE LEARNED A LOT, UH, THAT IT WORKS REALLY WELL.
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SEEN THAT SEVERAL FUNDING PROGRAMS NOW THAT, UM, IF YOU PROVIDE GREAT TRAINING AND SUPPORT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PUBLIC BENEFIT WE WANNA SEE FROM THESE DOLLARS.UM, SO SINCE AWARDEES WILL BE ENTERING INTO GRANT AGREEMENTS, THEY MUST ACKNOWLEDGE AND AFFIRM THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE FOLLOWING COMMITMENTS, WHICH IS PAYING MUSICIANS, THE CITY OF AUSTIN MUSICIAN, STANDARD RATE OF PAY, AT LEAST AS A MINIMUM, UH, DEI TRAINING NOCO OPTIONS PROVIDED BY THE CITY EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN.
A TEMPLATE IS GONNA BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY, AND THAT IS, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, A DOCUMENT THAT CAME OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY WORKING WITH ONE OF THE BEST CONSULTANTS EVER.
UH, AND IT'S DEFINITELY THESE, THESE STRATEGIES RELEVANT TO AUSTIN.
AND THEN ALSO YOU'VE GOTTA INCLUDE THE CITY OF AUSTIN MARKETING STATEMENT, WHICH IS WHY WE CHANGED, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR WITH THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PRESENTS BEFORE A SHOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME REQUIRED LANGUAGE JUST IN THE COPY, UH, OF, FOR ALL OF THE AWARDEES PROJECTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, PROGRESS AND FINAL REPORTS, WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S DOING WELL, UM, IN ORDER TO GET THEIR PAYMENTS.
AND THEN OPTIONAL, WE'LL PROVIDE MORE MARKETING CLASSES TO ALL AWARDEES.
AND THOSE ARE, AGAIN, FREE AND, UM, ONLINE, SO YOU CAN WATCH THEM ANYTIME.
UM, WE, THEY WERE VERY POPULAR THIS LAST YEAR.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
UM, ERICA, UM, COULD, COULD WE JUST SPEND MAYBE A COUPLE MORE MM-HMM,
JUST REAL QUICK, THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES ARE THE SAME AS BEFORE.
THOSE ARE THE EXPENSES ALLOWED BY THE STATUTE, THE, YOU KNOW, HOT STATUTE.
AND SO WE JUST INCLUDED EVERYTHING IN THERE AS ELIGIBLE EXPENSES.
AND, UM, ONE MORE, CAN YOU GO ONE MORE BACK? THERE WE GO.
SO, ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS HERE FOR NO CHANGES HERE FROM THE LAST TIME? NO, NO.
WE ADDED ADDITIONAL AUSTIN TOURISM, LIKE IF YOU WERE DOING A TOUR, BECAUSE TRAVEL EXPENSES ARE ALLOWED, UM, BY THE STATUTE THAT, UM, IT HAS TO BE ANY TRAVEL EXPENSES HAVE TO BE ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE BEING FUNDED BY THE GRANT.
THE PROMOTIONAL TOURS OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
UH, NO, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UH, SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FROM A VERY PURE STATE, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT, UM, HOT IN TERMS OF STATE OF TEXAS STATUTE FOR HOTEL MOTEL, OCCUPANCY TAX PROMOTING AUSTIN DIRECTLY IN SUCH A WAY WHERE YOU SAY THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PRESENTS.
UM, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE MARKETING TO GO OUT WITH THE SHOW.
AND MUSICIANS ARE VERY ACCOMP, YOU KNOW, USED TO DOING THAT IF THEY GET A SPONSOR.
AND SO THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO PROMOTE AUSTIN AND THE FUND, AND THAT WE'RE HELPING MUSICIANS TO GO PLAY TO MORE AUDIENCES POTENTIAL THAT ARE POTENTIAL TOURISTS TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
YEAH, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THIS.
UM, ERICA, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE OF WHICH IS, UH, ARE THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES THE SAME FOR VENUE APPLICANTS? YES.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE BY STATUTE, SO THESE ARE WHAT'S ALLOWED AND, UH, WITH ANY OF THE HOT FUNDS, OKAY, SO THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CONVERSATION WE HAD BEFORE, WHICH WAS THAT IT WASN'T TOTALLY DIALED IN, BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADDING VENUES INTO THE MIX, THE IDEA WAS THAT THAT MONEY WOULD BE PRIMARILY SPENT TO SUBSIDIZE MUSIC PERFORMANCES AT THESE VENUES TO BASICALLY FUNNEL THAT MONEY, THAT LIVE MUSIC FUND MONEY THROUGH THE VENUES TO THE MUSICIANS PLAYING AT, AT THOSE VENUES, ALLOWING THE VENUES TO BE MUSICIANS A FAIR WAGE.
SO IF ALL OF THESE EXPENSES ARE ALLOWABLE, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO REALLY SPREAD THOSE FUNDS A LOT THINNER.
I MEAN, I SEE YOU'RE GIVING A BIGGER CHUNK, WHICH IS GREAT, UM, TO VENUES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE IT'S YEAH, KIND OF DIFFERENT.
UM, SO, AND I DID NEGLECT TO PUT IN THESE SLIDES.
SO THERE ARE TWO AWARD BUDGETS FOR MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS.
WE'RE HOLDING FAST AT THE $3.5 MILLION DEDICATED TO THAT, THOSE ELIGIBILITY GROUPS.
THEN THERE WILL BE A MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE LIVE MUSIC VENUES WILL APPLY TO FOR THOSE TWO.
SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS, WHICH ALSO CAN USE THE FUNDS TO PAY THEMSELVES AS A PERFORMER,
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AS A, UH, EVENT PRODUCER, AND ALSO TO PAY OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR BAND, UM, FOR THE VENUES, ANY GRANT FUNDS THEY RECEIVE AND THEY'RE PAYING GUARANTEES THEY HAVE TO PAY THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY.AND SO IT'S A GOOD, UH, I THINK VENUES WOULD FIND THIS A GREAT THING TO SPEND THE FUNDS ON IS GUARANTEES, BUT AS WE WANNA SEE THESE FUNDS AS INVESTMENTS IN OUR BUSINESSES, AND WHEN WE REALLY THINK ABOUT WHY THE LIVE MUSIC FUND WAS CREATED, WHICH WAS REALLY ABOUT, UH, GROWING OUR SECTOR, AND, UM, AND SO WE DON'T WANNA DICTATE TOO MUCH IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE AND THEY SCORED HIGH ENOUGH AND THEY CAN GET THIS GRANT, WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO HAVE THE FREEDOM AND THE CONFINES OF THE STATUTE TO SPEND THE MONEY WHERE THEY NEED IT.
BUT IF THEY USE THE FUNDS TO, IF MUSICIANS ARE PLAYING AT THEIR VENUE AND IT'S A GRANT FUNDED EVENT OR PROJECT, YES, THEY MUST BE PAID AT LEAST A STANDARD RATE OF PAY.
MM-HMM,
IF IT'S A VENUE, THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE GONNA BE HIRING A WHOLE LOT OF MUSICIANS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
LIKE, SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO, WELL, A GREAT EXAMPLE WE'LL GIVE, AND WE'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE VENUES IN TERMS OF CASH FLOW AND HOW DOES THIS WORK IF THEY ARE RECEIVING RENT FOR ANY MONTH, ANYONE WHO'S A LOCAL MUSICIAN PLAYING THAT MONTH IS GONNA GET THE, ALSO BE PAID THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY.
I MEAN, WE JUST HAVE TO JUST GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO THE VENUES TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO GET THE EXPENSES DONE SO THAT THERE IS A VENUE FOR MUSICIANS TO PLAY AT.
THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY, I CAN'T, WE DON'T KNOW, UH, UNTIL WE HAVE THE DATA OF EXACTLY HOW IT'S ALL GONNA SHAKE OUT AND IF THAT IS A, A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MUSICIANS, BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT THIS POTENTIALLY IS, IS ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON TOP OF THE FUNDS GOING TO MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS THAT COULD BE USED TO PAY MUSICIANS.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER EXPENSES OF VENUES AND THEY ARE PART OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
AND SO WE WANT AN IMPACTFUL GRANT FOR THIS ELIGIBILITY CATEGORY.
JUST LIKE WE WANT AN IMPACTFUL GRANT FOR MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS.
SO THAT'S, IT'S JUST THE NUMBERS ARE NOT ADDING UP TO ME BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YOU COULD SPEND, IF YOU'RE PAYING, IF YOU HAVE LIKE THREE BAND, A THREE BAND BILL ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, AND EACH BAND IS A FIVE PIECE, RIGHT? AND SAY YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PRO RATING, THEY PAY A PLAY A 45 MINUTE SET, AND YOU'RE PRO RATING THAT TO AN HOUR.
SO THAT'S 200 AN HOUR FOR FIVE MUSICIANS, UH, FOR THAT'S ONE BAND GETTING PAID.
UH, WHAT IS THAT, 200 TIMES FIVE? THAT'S 10,000, RIGHT? TIMES THREE.
SO THEN, SO THEN, SORRY, DECIMALS, ZEROS.
UM, SO THAT, SO THAT'S $3,000 IN ONE NIGHT FOR THREE BANDS.
SO YOU DO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THAT, THAT'S LIKE 10 DAYS OF SHOWS AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE SPENT YOUR $30,000 ON JUST PAYING FEES FOR MUSICIANS.
I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, IF YOU'RE GONNA LIKE, THAT MONEY WILL RUN OUT VERY QUICKLY IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE PAYING THAT STANDARD RATE OF PAY TO ALL THE MUSICIANS WHO ARE PLAYING AT THESE VENUES DURING THIS, WE, WE ALLOTTED.
I MEAN, WE JUST WANNA SAY, IF YOU'RE DESIGNATING, LOOK, LET'S JUST, HOW IT WILL PRACTICALLY WORK.
IF YOU'RE DESIGNATING FUNDS TO PAY MUSICIANS, WE HAVE TO SEE PROOF OF THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY IF YOU'RE USING THE FUNDS FOR YOUR MARKETING PLAN TO PROMOTE ALL OF THE LOCAL SHOWS AND ALL THE SHOWS.
THAT IS JUST, IT IS A BENEFIT TO THE VENUE, BUT ALSO TO THE MUSIC COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THAT THOSE OTHER FUNDS ARE BRAND NEW EXPENSES.
IT'S GONNA BE PAYING FOR EXPENSES THAT EXIST, THAT FREE UP MORE FUNDS.
THIS IS AN INVESTMENT BOTH IN THE MUSICIANS AND THE VENUES.
AND AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND THESE BEING, UM, I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE THESE BE INVESTMENTS SO THAT, UM, THE MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS AS WELL AS THE VENUES CAN USE THE FUNDS AS THEY NEED, AS LONG AS IT'S WHAT'S ALLOWED.
AND THEY'RE PROMOTING, YOU KNOW, THE HECK OUT OF EVERYTHING TO POTENTIAL
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TOURISTS AND TO LOCAL AUDIENCES.SO, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING WHEN IT IS REQUIRED OF THE VENUES IS TO PAY THIS STANDARD RATE OF PAY IF POSITION IF THEY DESIGNATED, YEAH, THEY WILL.
THERE'S A, A FIRST REPORT, PROGRESS REPORT.
THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA USE THE MONEY, AND IT COULD SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PAY MUSICIANS FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE ALL OF OUR GRANT AND THEN WE'LL DO 50%, 40% OF THAT THEY DESIGNATE WITH THE PROGRESS REPORT AND WITH THE FINAL REPORT, AND THEY TELL US WHAT THEY'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY ON AND WHAT THEY JUST SPENT IT ON.
AND SO WE KIND OF KNOW, SO WE ALLOW THEM TO SPEND IN THOSE CATEGORIES.
NOW IS THERE A, UM, A POSSIBILITY THAT A VENUE COULD USE ALL OF IT IN A DIFFERENT SECTION? YES, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT EVERY VENUE'S GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
WE'VE HEARD FROM LOTS OF VENUES THROUGH OUR VENUE SUMMITS THAT THEY WOULD DEFINITELY USE THESE FUNDS TO, UH, PAY LOCAL MUSICIANS THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY.
UM, BUT THIS IS JUST PART OF THE INVESTMENT.
'CAUSE AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GIVING THESE FUNDS TO THE MUSICIANS AS WELL, TO PROMOTE THEIR EVENTS AT VENUES TO ALSO PAY THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY.
UM, AND SO IT IS A COLLECTIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, USE OF THE FUNDS TO, YOU KNOW, LIFT UP OUR COMMUNITY COMMISSIONER GOLD.
UH, JUST IF, IF I MAY AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL YIELD RIGHT BACK TO YOU.
UH, JUST TWO QUESTIONS, RELATED QUESTIONS.
UM, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE SPLIT? RIGHT NOW IT'S 3.5.
RIGHT NOW IT'S 3.5 AND, UH, YOU KNOW, A MILLION YEAH.
SOMETHING SO IS, BUT IS THERE A DESIGNATED SPLIT BETWEEN, UM, WHAT THE MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS BUCKET IS GETTING VERSUS IS IT IT HOW IT BEFORE 75, 25, 70 30, WHAT IS IT? YES, IT'S, IT'S WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR.
SO IT'S JUST THOSE CA CATEGORIES, BUT THE VENUES WERE NOT IN LAST YEAR.
SO IF WE TAKE A, A POOL OF HOT TAXES, WHAT PART OF THAT IS, UM, UH, MUSICIANS AND, UH, INDEPENDENT, 3.5, 3.5 FOR PROMOTERS AND MUSICIANS DEDICATED TO THEM, AND 1 MILLION DEDICATED TO VENUES, PERIOD.
THAT'S ABOUT 75% OR 70 SOMETHING.
IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, I MEAN, BECAUSE WE EXPECT THAT POOL TO CHANGE OVER THE YEARS, IS THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT THE PERCENTAGES VERSUS A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
UM, IT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT THE MOST IMP, IMPACTFUL GRANT IS FOR THAT, THOSE, UH, ELIGIBILITY CATEGORIES.
AND THEN YES, THEY WILL BE BIGGER GRANTS.
UH, ERICA, WHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS THE, THE POOL MIGHT INCREASE OVER THE YEARS, RIGHT? SO, UH, THE HOT TAX, IT COULD BE, YEAH, EVERY YEAR WE'LL HAVE A NEW BUDGET ALLOCATION.
THIS IS JUST FY 24, RIGHT? IS THERE, IS THERE A DETERMINATION ON THE PERCENTAGE RIGHT NOW? OR WAS THIS, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DETERMINED THE, THE SPLIT WAS ONE QUESTION.
AND, AND TO, TO COMMISSIONER GO'S POINT, I THINK IT IS, IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT THE ELIGIBLE USERS FOR THE VENUES HAS EXPANDED FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE BEFORE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ALLUDING TO.
BECAUSE EARLIER WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THE IDEA WAS THAT THE VENUES PREDOMINANTLY USE THE DOLLARS TO BOOK, UH, TO PAY LOCAL ARTISTS.
SO THAT'S WHY, UM, I MEAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT HOW THAT HAS EXPANDED AND, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF, IF THAT'S A GOOD THING OR NOT, OR, OR HOW THAT HELPS THE ECOSYSTEM AS TO HOW WE ARE POINTING OUT.
UH, SO DEFINITELY, UH, I CAN ALSO SEE THE VALUE IN THAT.
BUT WHAT SHE'S CLEARLY ALLUDING TO, AND WHAT I ALSO UNDERSTOOD FROM THE EARLIER RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE PREDOMINANTLY 85, 90% SPENT ON PAYING MUSICIANS AT THE, AT THE CITY RATE.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT AS PROBABLY COMING OUT OF YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE VENUES, UH, HAS EXPANDED.
'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T PRESENTED YOU GUYS A DRAFT WITH THAT.
AND IT IS DIFFERENT FROM HOW WE UNDERSTOOD IT, AND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT HAD INITIALLY WAS OUR FIRST, THIS IS OUR, WE'RE SHOWING THIS TO YOU GUYS FOR THE FIRST TIME, SO YEAH.
AND IT IS BASED ON WHAT DID WE LEARN AND WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED NOT ONLY THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS, BUT ALL FUNDING PROGRAMS OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY IMPACTFUL AND HELPFUL FOR BUSINESSES.
UM, AND TRULY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THE DECISION TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY WHERE THEY NEED IT AND JUST TRUST THAT THEY WILL, I TRUST THAT VENUES WILL USE THIS MONEY TO, TO PAY MUSICIANS AS THEY WILL OTHER THINGS IN ORDER TO HAVE THEIR VENUE STAY OPEN.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY BASING THIS ON TRUST AS WE WOULD WITH INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND, UH, UH, MUSICIANS AS WELL ON THAT.
THEY, THEY SPEND IT ON THE RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND THEY, BUT THERE IS, AGAIN, TO COMMISSIONER GOULD'S POINT, THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE THAT REALLY BINDS THE VENUES TO SPEND THE DOLLAR ON ONLY LIKE, OR ON MUSICIANS AT ANY LEVEL, WHETHER, WHETHER THAT'S 20% OF THE FUNDS
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THAT THEY'RE GETTING, OR 80%, THERE IS NOTHING THAT'S BINDING THERE ANYMORE.I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S OUT, IT'S JUST WE WERE, WE WOULD PREFER TO SEE THE FLEXIBILITY OF THIS AND GET THE DATA AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
UM, I, I MEAN, TO SAY THAT'S OUT OF THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
BECAUSE THIS IS A, A ORGANIC PROGRAM THAT IS EVOLVING YEAR OVER YEAR BASED ON WHAT WE LEARN.
AND, UM, I THINK THERE, IT DEFINITELY A DIALOGUE IS WORTH IT, OF COURSE.
BUT, UM, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THIS VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR ALL OF US IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY, TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT NECESSARY TO REALLY HELP ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES, WHETHER YOU'RE A MUSICIAN OR A VENUE, TO BE ABLE TO REALLY GET AHEAD FINALLY AND CATCH UP AND PAY EACH OTHER WELL.
UH, BECAUSE THIS, THERE ARE VENUE RENTALS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE PROMOTER, UH, AND MUSICIAN BUCKET.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T PUT ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS ON THAT EITHER.
AND SO THIS WAS REALLY TO ALLOW FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A FLEXIBLE INVESTMENT THAT PROMOTES AUSTIN AS A TOURIST DESTINATION, AND, UM, AND ALSO HAVE MORE IMPACTFUL INVESTMENTS THROUGH LARGER GRANTS.
AND SO BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARING, NOT JUST FROM VENUES, BUT FROM MUSICIANS AND LIKE, THIS WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD, WE ALSO DO THIS.
SO GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY ALLOWED IN THE STATUTE, DO THE TRAINING IN TERMS OF THE EQUITY AND WHAT WE WANNA SEE IN THE LONG TERM OF A DIVERSE AUSTIN MUSIC SCENE.
UH, BUT ALSO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
AND THEN START MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON THE DATA THAT COMES IN OF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND TWEAK.
WE ARE TRUSTING THIS TO MORE ORGANICALLY EVOLVE AND SEE WHAT DATA WE GET BASED ON THAT DETERMINE HOW WE WANNA FASHION THIS IN THE FUTURE IS, YEAH.
I, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I THINK, UH, IF IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, UM, AND I, I STILL, UH, IT IS THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED RIGHT NOW, IT'S CONFUSING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT OF PAYING MUSICIANS THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY, BUT THERE'S NOT, IT'S NOT CLARIFIED WHEN THAT'S REQUIRED AND WHEN THAT ISN'T REQUIRED.
AND WHAT I, WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS THAT THE VENUES WILL GET THESE GRANT FUNDING AND WILL HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE TOTALLY LEGITIMATE NEEDS FOR THEIR SPACE, UM, FOR THEIR BUSINESS, UM, FOR THEIR INTERNAL WORKINGS.
UM, AND THEN THEY'LL STILL CONTINUE
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WON'T, THAT THOSE FUNDS WON'T ACTUALLY, THAT NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN TERMS OF, OF MUSICIAN COMPENSATION IN THESE PLACES, WHICH IS AN, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING SO ESSENTIAL THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW? AND I FEEL LIKE IF THERE'S ANOTHER THING IS THAT I THINK PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS, THIS STANDARD RATE OF PAY OF 200 AN HOUR PER MUSICIAN, UM, WHICH IS GREAT.
I WILL NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT.
PLEASE, EVERYBODY COME UP TO THAT LEVEL THAT WILL BE GREAT AND BEYOND, BUT IT IS JUST NOT PRACTICAL FOR MOST VENUE, LIKE PUBLIC FACING VENUES, CLUBS.
IT IS JUST NOT PRACTICAL FOR THEM TO PAY THAT RATE TO EVERY SINGLE MUSICIAN FOR EVERY SINGLE SHOW.
SO, LIKE, CAN WE, IT, IT, I WORRY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE EITHER LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA CHERRY PICK A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, THESE SHOWS ARE, ARE THE GRANT FUNDED SHOWS AND THESE, THESE HANDFUL OF MUSICIANS ARE GONNA GET PAID THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS GREAT RATE, AND THEN THE REST OF THE MUSICIANS ARE GONNA BE OFFERED THIS.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF YOU'RE LUCKY, 200 FOR THE WHOLE BAND, 250 FOR THE WHOLE BAND, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEE.
AND SO THERE'S LIKE THIS LIKE HUGE DISPARITY THAT IN THE WAY THAT MUSICIANS ARE GETTING PAID CONCURRENTLY THAT HA THAT EXISTS.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE EVEN MORE OF THAT.
UM, AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING LIKE, WHAT, HOW CAN WE CLARIFY THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE? HOW CAN WE AVOID CREATING A, A WIDER GULF IN THE WAY MUSICIANS ARE GETTING PAID AND NOW IN PUBLIC VENUES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE USED TO ALL KIND OF BE IN THE SAME BOAT OF LIKE, WELL, WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE GIGS THAT WE DO FOR ALL OF THE OTHER REASONS BESIDES MAKING
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MONEY, YOU KNOW,SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, THE VENUES ARE BASICALLY TELL US WHAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE ASK THEM, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON? AND THAT'S IN THEIR PRO, YOU KNOW, THEIR, WHEN THEY'RE GETTING THE AGREEMENT TOGETHER, THEY HAVE TO KIND OF SAY 50% UPFRONT OR 40%, YOU HAVE TO TELL US WHAT ARE YOU GONNA BE SPENDING IT ON? IF THEY SAY, I'M SPENDING IT ON LOCAL MUSICIANS PAY FOR THE YEAR, THEN THAT'S ALL THEY CAN SHOW US AS THEY GO.
LIKE, OKAY, THIS, THIS TIME I PAID ALL MUSICIANS, AND THE NEXT TIME I'M TELLING YOU HOW I'M GONNA SPEND THE NEXT 40%.
IT COULD BE HALF RENT, HALF MUSICIANS.
AND SO WE WANNA GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADD THAT TO THEIR LIST OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD USE THE GRANT FUND.
SO IF THEY SAY MUSICIANS, WE DON'T LOOK AT THE SHOW DATES.
IT WOULD BE LIKE, SHOW US THE CANCEL CHECKS TO THE MUSICIANS PAYING THE STANDARD RATE UP TO THE POINT OF THE GRANT, YOU KNOW, CEILING.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S JUST PRACTICAL.
THAT'S HOW WE LOOK AT THE GRANTS THAT MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SPENDING THE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD.
UM, AND SO THAT'S HOW IT WOULD RUN IN A PRACTICAL SENSE.
UH, IF WE'RE OF COURSE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS OF HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE VENUES PAY MUSICIANS.
UM, BUT WE HAVE TO ALSO BALANCE THAT, UH, WITH JUST THE NEEDS OF ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF HOW THESE FUNDS COULD BE REALLY IMPACTFUL, WHICH IS TRULY TO LIFT US ALL UP.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WILLING TO DEFINITELY DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION'S IDEAS FOR WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT FROM A, JUST A PERSPECTIVE OF HOW WE SEE A GREAT INVESTMENT GOING FORWARD, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THIS FLEXIBILITY.
AND IF IT DOES END UP WHERE IT'S THAT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANNA SEE, WE HAVE THE DATA TO BACK THAT UP TO REALLY GO AND TWEAK THE GUIDELINES AS WE GO.
UM, BUT MY SENSE IS, AS WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH VENUES, IS THAT THEY ARE EXCITED TO USE THE FUNDS FOR ARTIST GUARANTEES.
AND SO IF THEY LIST THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, THAT'S WHAT THEY SPEND IT ON.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY FURTHER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
THE VENUES ARE DECIDING WHETHER, SO IF THE VENUE SAYS, FOR EXAMPLE, I'D LIKE TO USE ALL OF THESE FUNDS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EXPENSES WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THEIR INTERNAL EXPENSES AND NOT MARKETING WHATEVER, AND NOT FOR MUSICIAN PAY.
SO WE, THERE'S NO PROVISION TO, TO HOLD THEM TO ANY STANDARD OF MUSICIAN PAY.
THEY CAN STILL RECEIVE THESE GRANT FUNDS AND USE IT HOWEVER THEY LIKE WITHIN THOSE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES, AND THEY CAN DIS THEY CAN LEAVE MUSICIAN, UH, GUARANTEES OFF IF THEY WANT.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? AND THERE'S NO WHERE WITHIN THIS CURRENT CREATION, THEY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF, THERE'S NO HOLDING THEM TO A STANDARD.
IT IS THE SAME FLEXIBILITY AS ALL ELIGIBILITY GROUPS.
THIS IS OUR SUGGESTIONS FOR A FIRST, BUT IS IT NOT FOR THE, FOR THE MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS AND ALL THE OTHER GROUPS, YOU HAVE TO PAY ALL OF THE MUSICIANS THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY FOR YOUR PROGRAMS, RIGHT.
FOR THE OTHER OF THE GRANT AMOUNT.
SO IT'D BE THE SAME 'CAUSE A MUSICIAN COULD DO A LOT MORE SHOWS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WITH TONS OF PEOPLE THAT THE GRANT DOESN'T COVER, BECAUSE THE GRANT ONLY COVERS WHATEVER IS AWARDED.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S, THIS IS NOT, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, UH, YOU'RE ASKING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THE MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS THAN YOU ARE FROM THE VENUES, THE MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS WITHIN THEIR, THEIR GRANT USES OF THE GRANT FUNDING.
THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PAY THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY WITHIN THE VENUES.
YOU ARE SAYING THEY CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANNA USE THE MONEY ON THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY OR NOT THEIR CHOICE, WHICH I FEEL IS NOT FAIR.
NO, THEY'RE BOTH, THIS GRANTS, IF YOU ARE USING THE GRANTS TO PAY SOMEBODY, WE NEED TO SEE THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THE GRANTS TO PAY SOMEBODY, COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE SAYING THEY CAN USE THE GRANTS FOR OTHER THINGS.
I THINK, I THINK THERE'S NOTHING BINDING, ESSENTIALLY THAT IS, UH, REQUIRING, UH, VENUES TO PAY MUSICIANS, UH, OR USE ANY PART OF THE FUNDS TO PAY MUSICIANS.
OR IF SAME THING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
'CAUSE UH, MUSICIANS COULD, UH, APPLY TO, I'M GOING TO RECORD MY RECORD AND GET A BUNCH OF RECORDS, UH, PRESSED.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS WE'RE FUNDING THAT, UH, DON'T INVOLVE DIRECT PAYMENTS TO MUSICIANS ALREADY.
AND SO IT, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, COMMISSIONER GOLD AND IT'S, I, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSIONERS TO THINK ON IT AND COME BACK TO US IF YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT.
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THE BROADER, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIMITATIONS LIKE THAT ON THE MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS.THEY COULD SPEND THE MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE MUSICIANS AS WELL.
SO BASICALLY SAYING THAT WE ARE ALLOWING BROAD USERS FOR INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND MUSICIANS.
SO WE HAVE EXPANDED THE USES FOR, UH, FOR VENUES AS WELL AS WE BRING THEM IN.
UH, THEN WHAT OUR PRIOR UNDERSTANDING WAS, I WOULD, I WOULD, UM, YEAH.
UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD, UM, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK, UH, WE, WE CAN, UM, UH, SEE WHAT, WHAT OTHER REACTIONS WE MAY HAVE FROM, UH, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, AND KIND OF REFLECT ON THAT FURTHER.
THERE'S ONE MORE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
I MAY PLEASE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR EVERYBODY ELSE'S THOUGHTS, BUT JUST THE PRIME, THE, THE, THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE I SEE IS MUSIC VENUES ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE HIRING MUSICIANS, BECAUSE THAT IS THE POINT OF A MUSIC VENUE, RIGHT? SO A MUSICIAN CAN BE HAVING THESE PROJECTS, THEY COULD BE DOING ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH IT, BUT A MUSIC VENUE BY DEFINITION IS ALWAYS GONNA BE HIRING MUSICIANS.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE LIKE, THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF WHAT THEY DO.
SO I FEEL LIKE IT IS NOT FAIR TO NOT HOLD THEM TO ANY SORT OF STANDARD RATE OF PAY OR TO GIVE, TO MAKE THAT A CHOICE ON THEIR BEHALF, BECAUSE THEY ARE A MUSIC VENUE.
IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THERE AREN'T ANY MUSICIANS COMING TO PLAY THERE, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS MODEL.
I SPEAK, UM, COULD I, UH, COULD I PLEASE SEE THE SCREEN? I DON'T KNOW.
UH, UH, IS THIS COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? YEAH, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, I'LL, UH, I'LL GET TO YOU NEXT.
UH, SO A, A, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NUMBER NUMBER ONE, UH, THIS IS, I, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY THE LAST FOUR MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE FOR US TO GET IN A WORKING GROUP AND ACTUALLY DISCUSS ALL THESE THINGS EXACTLY THE WAY WE DID WITH THE FIRST ROUND OF LIVE MUSIC FUND WHEN IT ROLLED OUT.
IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S BEING TOLD TO US WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF HAVING TO KIND OF DEAL WITH IT AFTER THE FACT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO SIT HERE AND DISCUSS IT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, BEING IN A WORKING GROUP, BRINGING VENUES TO THE TABLE, ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND, AND COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS AND SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE VENUES ACTUALLY WANT.
IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS CAN'T DO THAT.
IT'S JUST ALSO THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ON YOUR PLATE, AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY HAS THIS COMMISSION ALREADY DONE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO DO.
AND IT, IT SEEMS, UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT, IT PUT, I, I BELIEVE IT PUTS THIS ENTIRE BODY HERE AT A, AT A PRETTY AWKWARD POSITION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KIND OF DISCUSS THIS SORT OF ON THE FLY WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING BEFOREHAND.
NUMBER TWO, THIS SCREWS OVER MUSICIANS FULL STOP.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE ONLY THING, EVEN IF THE VENUES ARE REQUIRED TO PAY THE, THE, THE, THE, THE RATE, I MEAN, EVEN IF THEY DO END UP PAYING IT, IF THEY HAVE THE EXPENSES TO PAY IT OR WHATEVER THE, THE STANDARD RATE FOR MUSICIANS, WELL, I MEAN, IF IT'S A 400 OCCUPANCY VENUE AND 400 PEOPLE SHOW UP AND IT'S $25 A TICKET, WELL THAT'S $10,000.
AND THEN YOU TAKE AN 80% SPLIT ON THAT, THAT'S $8,000.
SO THAT'S $8,000, AND THE VENUE'S ONLY REQUIRED TO PAY $2,000.
IF IT'S $200 AND IT'S, AND IT'S FIVE PEOPLE ON THE STAGE SO THAT THE, THE, WHAT WHAT IT SHOULD BE IS THERE SHOULD BE AN OFFER SHEET THAT'S, THAT LISTS THE SPLIT OR VERSUS DEAL, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR THREE MONTHS, THAT YOU'RE UNDER CONTRACT AND THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
AND IF YOU MAKE THAT MONEY, AND BY BRINGING THESE PEOPLE IN WITH THESE TICKETS, THEN YOU GET THAT MONEY FROM THE VENUE AND YOU GET THE MONEY ON TOP FROM WHAT YOU SHOULD BE PAY WITH YOUR GUARANTEE.
AND THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WHEN, UH, THESE VENUES ARE, YOU KNOW, PROMOTING THE SHOWS.
ALSO, IT'S ALSO REQUIRED THAT, YOU KNOW, ARTISTS HAVE TO PROMOTE THESE SHOWS TOO.
SO IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO, BASED ON WHAT THIS IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S GONNA BE, WELL, WE BROUGHT THESE PEOPLE IN AND SO WE'RE TAKING THE MONEY, OR WE'RE BRINGING THESE PEOPLE IN, SO WE'RE TAKING THE MONEY, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF STANDARD DEAL WITH THESE GRANTS THAT THESE VINEYARDS ARE GETTING THAT
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SAY YOU ARE GETTING THE MONEY THAT FROM THESE TICKETED SHOWS, A PERCENTAGE OF THAT MONEY PLUS THE GUARANTEED GRANT MONEY, PERIOD, FULL STOP, END OF STORY NUMBER TWO OR NUMBER THREE, THE, UM, THERE'S, THAT'S, IT'S TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE AWARDED FOR, UH, FOR, FOR, FOR EVERYBODY, MY OPINION, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M SAYING THIS NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THESE MEETINGS ABOUT THIS, AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST KIND OF TALKING ON THE FLY.IT'S, IT'S THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE TOO MANY MUSICIANS.
THERE'S GONNA BE TOO MANY INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS.
THERE'S GONNA BE TOO MANY SMALLER VENUES THAT ARE LEFT OUT OF THE POT, PERIOD.
NUMBER THREE, THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT VENUES CAN'T JUST TACK ON THESE EXTRA MISCELLANEOUS EXPENSES AND JUSTIFY THEIR EXPENSES AND SAY, HEY, WELL WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A CLEANING FEE AND A THIS FEE AND A THAT FEE AND A, THIS FEE, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, ACT ONTO THAT OFFER SHEET IN PRISM, AND THEN THEY JUST POCKET THAT MONEY.
BUT THEY COULD JUST, THEY CAN LITERALLY JUST MAKE UP ANYTHING THAT THEY WANNA MAKE UP.
AND THERE'S NO OVERHEAD, THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THAT STUFF AT ALL.
FURTHERMORE, NONPROFITS 5 0 1 C THREES SHOULD NOT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS.
5 0 1 C THREES ARE NOT PROMOTERS.
5 0 1 C THREES ARE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE AT A FULL ON ADVANTAGE FROM THE MUSICIAN THAT'S GOING FOR THE EXACT SAME GRANT.
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ACCESS, THEY HAVE GRANT WRITERS, THEY HAVE ACT, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TONS OF MONEY COMING IN.
SOMEONE THAT'S GETTING $150,000 GRANT FROM HEB SHOULD NOT BE APPLYING FOR, YOU KNOW, A LIVE MUSIC FUND ON THE SIDE OF A, OF, OF, OF A MUSICIAN.
THAT'S JUST THAT, THAT THEY'RE, THE MUSICIAN'S GONNA LOSE HANDOVER FIST EVERY SINGLE TIME.
I THINK WE NONPROFITS DRAWING BOARD WITH IT.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, THE COMM, UH, NONPROFITS OF THAT SIZE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO APPLY.
AGAIN, IT'S INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS OF ONLY THREE OR LESS.
UM, AND THERE WE COULD HAVE STAFF OF THREE OR LESS.
AND SO THERE ARE LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF NONPROFITS THAT DO PROMOTION, THAT IT'S JUST ONE PERSON.
UH, ALSO THERE ARE BANDS THAT ARE NONPROFITS A LOT IN CLASSICAL MUSIC, AND SO THEY WERE ELIGIBLE.
I, I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, YOU, YOU CAN HAVE A SINGLE ENTITY NONPROFIT THAT IS ALSO A 5 0 1 C3 WITH A BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON IT.
YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT, AND YOU CAN STILL GO AFTER THOSE EXACT SAME GRANTS.
YOU CAN HIRE SOME GRANT WRITER AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEY CAN GO AFTER THE SAME MONEY THAT THESE VIGOR NONPROFITS CAN GO AFTER, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS THAT THEY CAN JUSTIFY THEM DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THEY SHOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THIS MONEY.
THEY SHOULDN'T BE, THEY SHOULDN'T, I MEAN, OR AT LEAST THIS BUCKET OF MONEY.
IF I MAY, UM, I THINK, UH, SO FAR, IF YOU CAN JUST QUICKLY EXPLAIN THE PROCESS OF EVEN COMING UP WITH THE IDEA WITH THE CRITERIA FOR, UH, VENUE ELIGIBILITY.
I THINK IT'S BEEN IN CONVERSATION MM-HMM.
AND, AND BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, I MEAN, UH, I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE IS INTEREST IN, IN, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, FORMING A SHORT-TERM WORKING GROUP AND, AND HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS CRITERIA THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US TODAY AND HAVING, UH, THE, THE DUE DISCUSSIONS AROUND IT, UH, UH, AND, AND WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM THERE, I THINK, UH, I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEEK FURTHER INTEREST ON THE COMMISSION ON THAT FRONT.
UH, ERICA, IF YOU COULD PLEASE.
SO BASICALLY WE TRY TO MAKE THE GUIDELINES, THEY DON'T CHANGE VERY MUCH.
IT'S JUST REALLY WHAT IS BEING SCORED, AND WE'RE ALLOWING FOR MORE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES AROUND TOURS.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROGRAM FOR PROMOTERS AND MUSICIANS WITH THE SAME POOL.
THE VENUE PORTION IS A SEPARATE NEW PORTION OF THE BUDGET THAT IS DEDICATED TO, UH, THE GRANT.
AND THESE AS APPLES AND ORANGES.
THESE ARE NOT THE SAME TYPES OF ENTITIES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED DIFFERENT TYPES OF IMPACTFUL INVESTMENT.
AND ALSO THE CITY CAN'T REALLY DICTATE TO YOU GUYS WHAT TO DO, LIKE, HOW TO RUN YOUR BUSINESSES IN TERMS OF LIKE, YOU CAN ONLY PLAY THIS MUSIC, UH, FOR VENUES.
WE REALLY DON'T WANNA SAY, THIS IS HOW YOU NEED TO GO AND SET UP YOUR DEALS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, BROAD.
SO IT CAN BE USED THE MOST IMPACTFUL WAY SO THAT WE CAN SEE AN OVERALL MARKETING, UM, COMPONENT TO ALL OF THE SPENDS.
AND SO THAT WE DO SEE MUSICIANS GETTING PAID THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY.
WE HAVE LOTS OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE PAID MUSICIANS THIS LAST YEAR.
WE EXPECT TO, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE ENGAGEMENT WITH VENUES AS STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB IS TO GO TALK TO THE DIFFERENT GROUPS, LEARN FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR TO MAKE AN IMPACTFUL INVESTMENT FOR
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OUR COMMUNITY.AND SO WE'VE HEARD FROM VENUES THAT THEY WOULD PAY MUSICIANS THE STANDARD RATE OF PAY.
NOW, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE TO EVEN DEDICATE ALL OF THE FUNDS TO, YOU KNOW, MUSICIAN GUARANTEES, THAT'S NO, WE CAN'T SAY THAT'S GONNA COVER THEIR ENTIRE YEAR.
AND THAT BECAUSE THEY GOT THAT THEY HAVE TO CHANGE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO IN THEIR BUSINESS.
THESE ARE INVESTMENTS, UM, OF AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE AT THIS TIME WITH WHERE THE BUDGET IS AT, UH, AND PROVIDE THE FLEXIBILITY, UH, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE STATUTE, UH, AND SEE A GREAT MARKETING BLEND.
AND JUST SEE HOW THIS ALL WORKS OUT.
THE DATA IS STILL COMING IN FROM THE FIRST YEAR.
WE'D WANNA GET DATA FROM THIS YEAR, UH, TO SEE HOW THESE INVESTMENTS WORK.
AND I WANNA SAY THAT BY FOCUSING ON WHAT THE APPLICANTS ARE DOING IN TERMS OF SCORING, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE LEARNED OF WHAT'S SO DIFFERENT FROM NON-PROFITS AND THE CULTURAL ARTS FUND FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, IS THAT THINGS CHANGE, DATES GET CANCELED, YOU HAVE TO MOVE VENUES.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE SCORED FOR SPECIFICS THAT WERE PROMISED IN TERMS OF WE'RE GONNA USE THIS MUSICIAN AT THIS VENUE, AND YOU GET SCORED FOR IT.
BUT THINGS CH HAPPEN ALL THE TIME AND THINGS CHANGE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS TO TAKE THE ONUS OF THE SCORING OFF OF WHAT EXACTLY IT IS AND REALLY FOCUS ON THE TRAINING AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE COME BACK TO US AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, WHICH IS THE EQUITY STRATEGIC PLANS, THE GREAT MARKETING PLANS AND INVESTMENT TO PAY WELL TO EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S VENUE RENTAL FEES OR IF IT'S ARTIST GUARANTEES WITH THE VENUES, WITH THE VENUES.
AND OVER TIME EVERYTHING IS LIFTED UP.
SO THOSE, THE PAY GOES UP ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THESE, FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES, DIRECTOR, HOL WRAP.
S NOVI, HOLT WRAP, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND I WANNA THANK ERICA FOR HER WORK, BUT I WOULD ALSO, UH, SUGGEST WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A WORKING GROUP SO THAT WE CAN SIT DOWN AND WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE VENUES, POSSIBLY BRING IN TWO OR THREE KEY SO THAT YOU CAN HEAR FROM THEM, SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOUR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE COULD TWEAK THE GUIDELINES QUICKLY AND THEN BE ABLE TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO ROLL THIS OUT AFTER NEXUS.
SO I APPRECIATE, I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING, LAUREN, I'VE HEARD YOU.
I, I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS, BUT LET US, UM, DEFINITELY DO THAT WORKING GROUP BECAUSE, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS TONIGHT, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE WANNA GET THIS RIGHT AS WE BRING IN THE VENUES IN THIS NEXT ROUND.
UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, IS, IS IT OKAY IF I MOVE TO ANOTHER COMMISSIONER? DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PATTERSON.
SO I, I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE, UH, THE IDEA OF, OF, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION MEETING, POSSIBLY IN A WORKING GROUP MEETING.
UM, BUT I'M TRYING TO, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THE, THE $60,000 AMOUNT, UM, MAXIMUM AMOUNT FOR THE VENUES, HOW THAT WAS ARRIVED AT, UM, IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT VENUES MIGHT SPEND VERSUS, LIKE, I'M THINKING ABOUT AN IN, LIKE AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER WHO'S MAYBE TRYING TO PUT ON A FESTIVAL, I THINK COULD ALSO WOULD INCUR A LOT OF EXPENSES, INCLUDING LIKE VENUE RENTAL.
UM, SO, AND I, I KNOW THESE ARE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE KIND OF, UH, THAT AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER ON WHAT A VENUE MIGHT BE DOING IS DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS.
SO I MEAN, THERE'S LIKE, SO A INDEPENDENT PROMOTER COULD GET UP TO $30,000 AND A VENUE COULD GET UP TO $60,000.
SO I'M JUST MM-HMM,
SO WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
UH, ANY CREATIVE ORGANIZATION THAT ACTUALLY RENTS COMMERCIAL CREATIVE SPACE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME INTO, THERE'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSES INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF RENT, UH, INSURANCE AND OTHER EXPENSES RELATED TO THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IN COMPARISON TO SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A BRICKS AND MORTAR.
AND SO THE CSAP GRANTS HAVE BEEN $50,000 AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
WE ALREADY KNOW IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
WE'VE HEARD THAT FEEDBACK FROM VENUES AND OTHER CREATIVE SPACES FOR YEARS.
UM, AND SO KEEP IN MIND TOO, THAT CSAP IS GOING TO BE ROLLING OVER TO DIFFERENT
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TYPES OF EXPENSES.SO YOU DON'T KIND OF SEE THE OVERLAP OF LIKE, WHAT THIS CAN COVER AND WHAT THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM CAN COVER.
AND PLUS THAT IS A SMALLER BUDGET THAT'S ALSO OPEN TO, FOR-PROFIT, I MEAN, NON-PROFIT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER TYPES OF, FOR-PROFIT CREATIVE SPACES.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA THAT SHOWS WHY, YOU KNOW, 60 IS A GOOD INVESTMENT NUMBER FOR A BUDGET WITH A LARGER BUDGET AND 30 FOR A SMALLER BUDGET.
UM, IT'S SHOCKING TO SEE THE RISE IN COSTS, UH, HAPPENING.
I MEAN, IT'S EVERY QUARTER IT'S A PERCENTAGE UP OF RUNNING A BUSINESS, UH, LIKE A LIVE MUSIC VENUE OR ANY CREATIVE SPACE THAT IS A, UH, PROPERLY ZONED, UH, PUBLIC FACING BRICKS AND MORTAR SPACE.
SO IT'S A LOT OF EXTRA EXPENSES.
WE HAVE THE DATA TO SHOW THAT.
AND WHAT HELPS IN, IN TERMS OF IMPACT.
WE KNOW ALREADY THAT BOTH THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION FUND AS WELL AS THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HAS HELPED TO KEEP VENUES FROM CLOSING.
AND SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT TYPE OF SUPPORT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT VENUE CLOSURES OR DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP, UH, VENUES TO INVEST IN THEIR BUSINESS.
JUST LIKE IN THE SAME WAY, UH, WE'RE USING MUCH BIGGER GRANTS TO INVEST IN THE INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, UH, TO BE MORE IMPACTFUL, UH, WITH THOSE FUNDS, TO PAY MORE MUSICIANS, DO MORE ACTIVITIES, SO THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY BUILDING, UH, THROUGH THESE INVESTMENTS, WE'RE BUILDING THIS MUSIC CITY.
SO, CAN YOU REMIND ME A CSAP, HOW IS C SAP FUNDED? IT'S THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S A $500,000 BUDGET PER YEAR.
IT WAS, UM, WE ROLLED OVER FUNDS THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD A $1.5 MILLION BUDGET LAST YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE 500 THIS YEAR AND 500 NEXT YEAR.
SO THE PLAN WOULD BE, AT THE VERY LEAST TO ROLL IT.
SO THERE'S AN A MILLION DOLLAR, UM, YOU KNOW, BUCKET FOR AWARDS, AND IT WON'T BE THE SAME EXPENSES COVERED BY CULTURAL ARTS FUND OR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE RENT BEING PAID, YOU KNOW, BY TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.
IT'S, UH, A LOT OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE IMPROVEMENTS HERE WITH THESE GUIDELINES IS HOW TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, VERY AUDIT PROOF, EASY TO VERIFY, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT USING THE FUNDS AND COUPLE PLACES FOR KIND OF THE SAME THING AS JUST BEING GOOD FIDUCIARY STEWARDS OF HIS TAXPAYER MONEY.
UH, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, GIVING A, KEEPING IT WHERE THE IMPACT IS UP TO THE VENUE OR THE MUSICIAN OR THE PROMOTER OF HOW THEY'D LIKE TO SPEND THE FUNDS.
'CAUSE THIS IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVES TO, TO BUILD YOUR BUSINESS.
AND SO WE WANT TO SOMEWHAT GET OUT OF THE WAY, BUT ALSO HAVE THESE GUARDRAILS OF, YOU KNOW, THESE EQUITY, THE CORE PRINCIPLES, OUR EQUITY CORE PRINCIPLES STAY IN PLACE, UH, SO THAT THIS CAN BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A, A LIFESAVER FOR A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES ACROSS ALL CATEGORIES.
WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT BROADLY FOR THE MUSIC ECOSYSTEM.
UM, BUT ERICA DID YOU SAY JUST NOW, LIKE C SAP, THE BUDGET, THE ANNUAL BUDGET IS, HAS BEEN REDUCED FOR CSAP.
IT WAS ALWAYS REDUCED BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC IT WAS ROLLING OVER.
IT WAS 500 A YEAR IN GENERAL FUND.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH SOME ARPA FUNDING IN 2022 AND THEN ROLLOVER FUNDS INTO 2023, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD THE 1.5 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND.
SO, UM, THE PANDEMIC HELPED WITH THOSE INCREASED INVESTMENTS IN THOSE GRANT FUNDING PROGRAMS, BUT NOW IT'S BACK DOWN TO 500,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 AND, AND INTO THE FUTURE.
UM, AND SO, WHICH FOR RENT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, IS THAT COME OUT OF, IS THAT A CSAP ELIGIBLE EXPENSE OR THAT'S A LIVE MUSIC FUND ELIGIBLE EXPENSE? YEAH.
SO IF, UH, WE WON'T HAVE IT BE A ELIGIBLE EXPENSE IN THE NEXT ROUND OF CSAP, AND THAT'S FOR ALL ELIGIBILITY CATEGORIES BECAUSE, UM, BOTH IN THE CULTURAL ARTS FUND AND IN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, YOU CAN USE THIS FOR RENT.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THE, AND I MEAN FOR SURE, RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE, UM, REAL ESTATE IS IN AUSTIN.
UM, BUT IT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, THE INTENTION FOR VENUES IS TO,
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IT'S TO LEVERAGE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TO COVER PART OF WHAT CSAP PREVIOUSLY COVERED.IT IS JUST THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR CSAP BECAUSE IT'S ALSO NOT DEDICATED TO JUST LIVE MUSIC FUNDS.
SO THAT, OF THAT 500,000, YOU'RE STILL COMPETING AGAINST NONPROFIT CATEGORY AND TWO OTHER FOR-PROFIT CATEGORIES BESIDES LIVE MUSIC FUND BE BESIDES VENUES.
AND WAS THE I, THE VENUE PRESERVATION FUND, IS THAT ALL ARPA MONEY? YES.
SO, WELL, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW, AS YOU SAID, LIKE HOW TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE HOT FUNDS AND YOU KNOW, HOW TO MAXIMIZE THAT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, AS IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT, THE, YOU KNOW, VENUE REPRESENTATIVES ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SPEND THAT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, MUSICIAN PAY.
BUT, UM, AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO HAVING BUDGET, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS RIGHT NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING GENERALLY, UM, I'M VEERING INTO A BIT OF A DIFFERENT CATEGORY OF, UH, AGENDA ITEM RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING, YOU KNOW, IF THIS COMMISSION SHOULD RECOMMEND THAT MORE, MORE FUNDING GO TO CSAP FROM THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT, UM, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND CAN BE USED MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ORIGINALLY, LIKE, BASICALLY FOR PROGRAMMING AND, AND PRODUCING, UM, YOU KNOW, VIDEOS AND RECORDS AND THINGS.
SO I'M NOT, I, I MEAN, AND I WOULD, I WOULD EVEN RAISE THE CONCERN IS VENUE RENTAL, IS THAT A HEADS AND BEDS? YEAH, THAT'S AN ALLOWABLE EXPENSE A HUNDRED FOR SURE.
OF THE HOT FUNDS, UH, BOTH FOR MUSICIANS THAT ARE RENTING A SPACE FOR THEIR PROJECT, WHETHER IT BE A RECORDING STUDIO, A LIVE MUSIC VENUE, OR ANYTHING, UM, IT'S ALLOWED.
AS LONG AS, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANNA HELP THE VENUES PAY THE RENT 'CAUSE I DO
UM, BUT, UH, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE BROAD PICTURE OF FUNDING AND I DON'T WANNA SORT OF, I GUESS, ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL IN A SENSE AND CANNIBALIZE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IF THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO, TO BRING IN FUNDING, FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND WE WERE THINKING.
SO THAT'S JUST, I'M JUST RAISING THOSE, THOSE QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG DISCUSSION.
SO I'M NOT, MAYBE THIS HAS ALL BEEN MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A, THAN A QUESTION.
FOR THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WE WOULD MAKE, UH, WHAT THAT WOULD FOCUS ON ARE THE CAPITAL EXPENSES, WHICH ARE NOT ALLOWED WITHIN THE HOT STATUTE.
AND SO THAT COULD BE THINGS LIKE ADDING AIR CONDITION FANS, YOU KNOW, THINGS WITH, AS OUR CLIMATE GETS HOTTER AND HOTTER.
THIS LAST SUMMER WAS ONE OF THE WORST SUMMERS ON RECORD AND BUSINESS WAS LOST.
UM, IT IS, WAS, IT'S LIKE ALMOST GOING THROUGH A MINI PANDEMIC EVERY SUMMER AT THIS POINT IN TERMS OF LOSS OF REVENUE.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO PIVOT THE, THOSE DOLLARS, THOSE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, WHICH CAN BE USED ON CAPITAL EXPENSES, UH, ON, ON THAT.
UH, SO THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE REVENUE GENERATING TO AN EXTENT, AND THAT PEOPLE WILL GO SOMEWHERE IF THERE'S AC YOU KNOW, MORE LIKELY TO.
UM, AND SO WE JUST HAVE, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE SPREADING THE DOLLARS.
WE'RE NOT, UH, PAYING THE SAME EXPENSE TWICE WITH DIFFERENT GRANT FUNDS SO THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS AND THAT WE ARE SEEING THE DOLLARS AND THE INVESTMENT GOES AS FAR AS IT POSSIBLY CAN.
I APPRECIATE YOU THE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION.
COMMISSIONER CASADA, YOU HAD RAISED YOUR HAND EARLIER.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UM, THANK YOU.
I'M, I'M STILL MULLING OVER ALL THIS INFORMATION.
IT DOES ULTIMATELY SOUND LIKE A WORKING GROUP WOULD BE VERY, REALLY HELPFUL.
AND IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE, UM, IN ADDITION TO MUSICIANS BEING PAID, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE CITY RATE, AT AT LEAST, THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT I JUST KIND OF GO TOWARDS LIKE WANTING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM, UM, VENUE OWNERS AS TO WHAT THEIR, THEIR ISSUES ARE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER HAVING MORE OF A, UM, CONVERSATION WITH WHAT THEY THINK THAT THEIR
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ISSUES ARE.UM, A LOT OF VENUE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, ARE MUSIC LOVING PEOPLE AND, AND MUSICIAN LOVING PEOPLE.
SO I DON'T, I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO INVESTIGATE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR TRANSPARENCY.
TRANSPARENCY AND, UM, AND TO, TO JUST FEEL THE BEAUTY OF THE ECO ECOSYSTEM A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ARE UNRESTRICTED FUNDS BECAUSE THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS.
UM, BUT ONE THING I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SAY OUT LOUD WAS, UH, AND I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT, UM, FUNDING SOURCE COMING FROM THE HOT FUNDS, BUT AMPLIFY AUSTIN, FOR INSTANCE, WHICH RAISES, YOU KNOW, $12 MILLION A YEAR FOR OVER A HUNDRED, 750 NONPROFITS.
WHAT'S REALLY MAGICAL ABOUT THAT FUND IS THAT THEY'RE UNRESTRICTED FUNDS.
SO IT'S, UM, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NONPROFITS TO RAISE DOLLARS TO GO TOWARDS THINGS THEY KNOW THEY NEED BEST.
UM, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS, THESE, YOU KNOW, TAX PAYING DOLLARS NEED TO GO FOR, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE THERE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE DO NEED TO DIG DEEPER WITHIN A WORKING GROUP.
RIGHT? AND THIS WAS INTENDED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK, DO WHAT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY FORM A GROUP AND TALK THROUGH THIS.
WE HAVE HAD TWO VENUE SUMMITS AND WE HAVE SURVEY RESULTS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU AGAIN, OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE DID GET FROM VENUES.
UM, AND, BUT PLEASE DO FORM, AND YOU CAN ADD AND ASK ANYONE FROM THE VENUE COMMUNITY TO JOIN YOUR WORKING GROUP TO GO THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS.
UM, BUT IN A WAY, IT IS NOT THAT IT'S UNRESTRICTED, IT'S JUST THAT THESE ARE THE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES.
YOU'VE GOTTA MARKET EVERYTHING YOU DO TO POTENTIAL TOURISTS.
IT'S NOT UNRESTRICTED BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE REGISTER RESTRICTIONS.
UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE YOUR PROPOSALS.
IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO START THE WORKING GROUP.
I, I THINK, AND THEN IT'LL ALSO BE INTERESTED TO JUST SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, AND, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SOME MEASUREMENT THERE AND THE DATA THERE.
AND YOU ALREADY HAVE HAD THAT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE VENUES ARE AT A, YOU KNOW, PER WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON JUST SAID, I MEAN, WE JUST HAD THE RED RIVER, YOU KNOW, FOLKS TALK LAST TIME.
AND IT IS, UM, THEY HAVE SOME SERIOUS OVERHEAD RIGHT NOW.
I ALSO LOOK FORWARD, FRANKLY, FOR CERTAIN, CERTAIN VENUES OUT THERE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT MUSICIANS BETTER, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THEIR, THEIR SPACE, WHETHER THAT IS AV COMPONENTS OR, YOU KNOW, MORE RESTROOMS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL COULD BE OUT THERE, BUT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, HIGHLIGHTING THE MUSICIANS IN A REALLY PROFESSIONAL ATMOSPHERE WOULD BE LOVELY AS WELL FOR SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, VENUES.
BUT A AGAIN, JUST CIRCLING BACK AROUND TO LIKE, WORKING GROUP AND, UM, I, I, I'M VERY, UH, CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE PROPOSALS ARE THAT YOU GUYS GET TO, TO VIEW.
UH, UH, CASADA, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, ALSO, UH, WOULD YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR COMMENTS, BUT, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOTION FOR THE FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHO, DO YOU WANNA GO FIRST? COMMISSIONER MAHO? I DIDN'T SEE YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, DID YOU? OKAY.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT, UM, I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I'VE, WHAT I'VE HEARD, THERE'S SOME DEFINITELY GOOD CONVERSATION GOING ON, BUT I WAS ALSO, UM, A COUPLE POSITIVES THAT I WAS TAKING FROM WHAT WAS DELIVERED IS THAT, YOU KNOW, 75% OF THE MONEY IS BEING ALLOCATED TO MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS, AND I STILL THINK THAT'S HEALTHY, UM, ALLOCATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS, BUT, UM, I DO THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.
AND I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING, PUTTING A MICROSCOPE ON THE MILLION, UM, THAT'S GOING TO THE VENUES, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING POSITIVE, UM, THAT TOOK AWAY FROM THAT PRESENTATION.
AND ALSO THE, UM, PART ABOUT THE EXTRA POINTS, IF YOU DIDN'T GET THE MONEY THE PREVIOUS YEAR, I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, POSITIVE ABOUT, UH, THE PRESENTATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER MAHOME, UM, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
AND JUST, JUST, JUST, JUST REAL QUICK AND, AND KIND OF THE DOVETAIL OFF OF COMMISSIONER MAHOME.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT, WE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT A, A LOT OF REALLY GREAT WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND THAT IT'S BEING DONE ON THIS.
I, I DO WANT TO REITERATE THAT, UM, IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK FOR EVERYBODY, AND I, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
I, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, UM, YOU
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KNOW, WITH, WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER GOUL HAS BEEN SAYING, AND, AND, AND SAME THING WITH COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.UH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE SO COMMISSIONER GOULD, WE, THE REASON WHY THIS FUND EXISTS IS TO PAY MUSICIANS.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE HAVE IT.
SO RATHER, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THE VENUE GETS THE MONEY AND THEN THE VENUE PAYS THE MUSICIANS, WELL, THEN THAT'S LESS OVERHEAD FOR THEM FOR THE NIGHT, AND THEY GET TO JUST USE THE MONEY THAT THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN TO PAY.
MUSICIANS, MUSICIANS NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED.
THEY NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED FIRST.
IT NEEDS TO BE LOCAL MUSICIANS THAT ARE PRIORITIZED FIRST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT EASIER OF A, OF, OF A RISK FOR A LOCAL MUSICIAN THAT IT IS FOR TAKING A BET ON SOMEONE THAT'S OUT OF TOWN WITH, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY FOLLOWERS THEY HAVE, THAT YOU'RE JUST GONNA GIVE 'EM AN OFFER AND GIVE 'EM A HOLD AND GUARANTEE THEM THIS MONEY.
AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS BECAUSE OF IT, OR, OR LOW PERFORMANCE, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
IF WE DO NOT INVEST IN OUR LOCAL MUSICIANS THAN OUR, OUR AUSTIN MUSIC SCENE AS IT, AS, AS LITTLE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, DIES.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE LIVE NATION.
IT'S GONNA BE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH ON TOUR BUSES AT, YOU KNOW, AT AT THE SPIRE HOUSE OR WHEREVER, AND WE ARE GOING TO LOSE WHAT'S LEFT OF OUR SCENE.
UH, SECONDLY, AND, AND I DO NOT FAULT THE VENUES FOR THIS AT ALL.
I MEAN, I COULD, I COULD PROBABLY SAVE YOU ALL THE SURVEYS AND THE TALKING POINTS AND THE, AND THE, AND, AND THE THINGS BY SAYING THAT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME, FOR VENUES TO MAKE MONEY, TO MAKE MONEY OR MAKE MORE MONEY, THEY'RE GOING TO WANNA MAKE MORE MONEY.
HOWEVER, THAT IS, NO MATTER HOW THEY HAVE TO DO IT, THEY'RE A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS.
IF I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MORE MONEY, I WOULD TAKE IT.
I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT WE, WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN PLACE FOR HOW THIS MONEY GETS SPENT AND HOW IT GETS AWARDED.
AND YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO SPEND THEIR MONEY, BUT IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST THING.
IF THEY, IF, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE USING CITY DOLLARS, THEN THEY HAVE TO PLAY BY OUR, OUR RULES.
AND WE NEED TO DEFINE, CLEARLY DEFINE THOSE RULES FOR THE NONPROFITS, FOR THE INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, FOR THE, UM, FOR, FOR MUSICIANS WHO ALSO SHOULD BE PAYING A STANDARD RATE FOR ANYONE GOING TO THE STUDIO.
THEY SHOULD BE PAYING A STANDARD RATE FOR THAT.
AND WE CAN TALK TO THE UNION ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THIS IS RIGHT NOW.
UH, I'D LIKE TO BRING A MOTION TO THE FLOOR TO START A WORKING GROUP.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO START A WORKING GROUP FOR, UM, UH, WE CALLING IT THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PROGRAM, JUST AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, ALL AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, UM, ROLLOUT IN 2024.
UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER? DEAR THE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? UH, I THINK WE NEED, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND.
I, I, I COMPLETELY SKIPPED OUT A WHOLE STEP THERE.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I CAN SECOND.
THE, UM, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UH, PARTICIPANTS, PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, AS IN, UH, WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE GROUP? COME ON, GUYS.
I THINK WE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHOOSE ALL THE MEMBERS TONIGHT.
I MEAN, WELL, CAN WE, CAN WE GET A START? CAN WE GET A START ON IT? YEAH.
SO COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, CAN, CAN RECRUIT OFFLINE.
CAN I ASK, WELL, I CAN JUST SAY EVERYBODY THAT'S NOT IN THIS MEETING HAS TO BE, JUST SIGN THEM UP.
UH, BECAUSE SOVIA SAID THAT, UH, Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO ROLL THIS OUT BEFORE NEXUS.
DO YOU HAVE LIKE A, A TIMELINE? BECAUSE FOR ME, MY HESITATION TO JOIN THE GROUP IS JUST THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF FOR ME IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE.
AND I, I UNFORTUNATELY JUST DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH FOR IT RIGHT NOW.
I, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD, AND INTENTIONALLY, PERSONALLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP THIS TERM LIMITED.
THAT WE, WE SAY THAT THIS IS A ONE MONTH, ONE AND A HALF MONTH, WHATEVER.
I THINK A ONE MONTH, REALLY, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD SHOOT FOR.
UH, SO WE CAN COME TO SOME CONCLUSIONS AND NOT, UH, IMPACT THE TIMELINES.
UH, SO IF THERE ARE COMMISSIONERS THAT CAN PARTICIPATE WITHIN THAT,
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UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE MOST PREFERABLE.BUT I OBVIOUSLY DO, DO NOT WANT TO DISCOURAGE ANYBODY FROM PARTICIPATING.
IF I COULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO MEET THIS MONTH SO THAT WE CAN STAY ON TRACK, UM, BECAUSE, UM, COMMUNITY'S WAITING ON THE FUNDS AND WE WANNA HEAR YOUR INPUT, BUT IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN FEBRUARY, SO THEN WHEN WE COME BACK IN MARCH, WE CAN PRESENT SOMETHING.
I KNOW THAT'S AGGRESSIVE, BUT, UM, TIME IS THE ESSENCE.
I, I'D RATHER DO IT THIS, THIS MONTH AND, AND HAVE A MEETING AND, AND, AND KNOCK THIS OUT.
I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS, SO LET'S JUST, LET'S, LET'S DO THIS AND GET IT DONE.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT IS, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU ADVISE DIRECTOR IRA IF, UH, COULD, WE, COULD, COULD, COULD I HAVE, UH, STAFF SEND OUT AN EMAIL AND GET VOLUNTEERS IN THE NEXT WEEK? YOU CAN, AND MY, UH, Y'ALL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU CAN'T HAVE QUORUM, SO IF YOU DO DO THE POLL, IT HAS TO BE LESS THAN QUORUM.
UH, COULD, COULD STAFF DO THE, HAVE THE COMMUNICATION, UH, WITH EVERYBODY? YEAH, WE CAN.
AND, UH, WE WILL NEED FIVE OR LESS, BASICALLY EXACTLY.
UH, SO FIRST, COME FIRST, UH, WHOEVER VOLUNTEERS, THE FIRST FIVE WILL FIRST, FIRST, THE FIRST FIVE THAT VOLUNTEERS WILL TAKE THAT.
AND, UM, WE CAN HAVE ERICA RECOMMEND SOME VENUES THAT CAN PARTICIPATE, BUT IF WE CAN KNOCK IT OUT IN, UM, FEBRUARY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, UM, GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
UH, AND, AND JUST TO WRAP THIS UP, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ERICA, UM, UH, DIRECTOR, RA, EV, EVERYBODY FROM STAFF, I, I REALLY DO WANT TO ECHO, UH, WHAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID AS WELL IS, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN THE WORK TO BRING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO SEE A DRAFT AND THEN RESPOND TO IT THAN TRY TO BUILD THIS FROM SCRATCH, UH, FOR US AT THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO I THINK, UH, HAVING THIS DRAFT IS VERY HELPFUL.
I KNOW THE VENUE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE ALSO COME FROM DUE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VENUES.
UH, AND LIKE COMMISSIONER MAHON POINTED OUT, UH, I, I, UM, DO VERY CLEARLY SEE THAT THAT MUSICIANS ARE BEING PRIORITIZED EVEN IN THE CURRENT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE SIMPLY BY SEEING THE 75 OR 77% SPLIT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN, UH, ALLOCATED IN TERMS OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, WILL, WILL, WILL, WILL RESPOND TO, UH, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND GO FROM THERE.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UPDATE
[4. Update on consultant evaluation of the Live Music Fund program by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division.]
ON CONSULTANT EVALUATION ON THE LIVE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PROGRAM BY SHAMALI, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.UM, EARLIER TODAY, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL ON MY BEHALF ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CONSULTANTS.
AND SO I CLEARLY ARTICULATED AND LAID OUT THE PLAN.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING NEXUS AND THEN LIVE MUSIC FUND WILL ROLL OUT.
UM, SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, DIRECTOR, I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I WAS, I WAS ON A FLIGHT BACK, SO I HAVE NOT, I HAVE NOT REVIEWED, UH, THE, THE DETAILS OF THAT EMAIL.
IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
OR IF YOU COULD JUST SUMMARIZE, SUMMARIZE THAT WE ARE STILL, UH, MOVING.
GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
OH YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT WAS BASIC, UH, I, I, I JUST TELL ME IF I'M PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, UH, UM, MS. HOLT WRAP, BUT, UH, IT, IT, IT, IT'S THE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT EDD FEELS COMFORTABLE SHARING AT THIS CURRENT MOMENT.
BASICALLY LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT, CORRECT.
AND WE WILL HAVE A SURVEY THAT WILL BE DEPLOYED, UH, THIS MONTH SO THAT WE CAN HEAR AGAIN FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE HEARD CONTINUOUSLY THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS FROM COMMUNITY.
BUT WE ARE DOING A FORMAL SURVEY AND WE WILL ASK THAT YOU ALSO, YOU'LL RECEIVE A LINK AND WE ASK THAT YOU ALSO, UM, DISTRIBUTE TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, ASK YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TO PUT IT IN THEIR NEWSLETTER.
WE'LL BE DOING A MASS SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN SO THAT WE CAN HEAR BACK FROM COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY COMMITMENTS.
WE ARE GONNA DO ANOTHER TOUCH POINT, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HEARD FROM, UM, COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
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MOVING[5. Discussion after presentation on ACL 2023 by Emmett Beliveau, Chief Operating Officer, C3Presents.]
ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. UM, DISCUSSION AFTER PRESENTATION ON ACL 2023 BY EMMETT BEVO, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER C3 PRESENCE.HELLO, UM, MY NAME IS EMMETT BEVO.
I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT C3 PRESENTS HERE IN AUSTIN.
UH, I'M ALSO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, UH, OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION ON THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD A, A PRESENTATION FROM ANNE LAST LAST WEEK, UH, WHICH IS EXCITING THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME STUFF MOVING.
UM, I WAS ASKED TO, TO SERVE AS TREASURER OF THE A A DC THIS YEAR, WHICH I ACCEPTED THE UPSIDE FOR, THUS THOSE OF US IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY, AS THAT MEANS, I NOW SERVE ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF A EDC AS WELL.
SO I KNOW THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, SO I PREPARED A, UM, A BRIEF SLIDE, UH, AT NAGA, UH, SLIDE DECK AT NAGA VALLEY'S REQUEST.
UM, THIS IS ALL MAINLY INFORMATION FROM LAST YEAR'S FESTIVAL FROM THE THE 23 FESTIVAL.
UM, AND SO I'LL RUN THROUGH THAT, BUT THEN HAPPY TO TAKE, TAKE QUESTIONS ON, ON ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE.
UM, SO JUST A QUICK WORD ABOUT ABOUT C3 AND WHO WE ARE.
UH, WE ARE AN, UH, AUSTIN BASED COMPANY OF ABOUT 250 EMPLOYEES.
WE'RE NOW TOUCHING, UM, ALMOST 30 MUSIC FESTIVALS AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT THAT ENGINE, UH, LIVES AND BREATHES HERE IN AUSTIN.
UM, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE ARE, ARE MOST PROUD OF AND EXCITED TO WORK ON AS OUR HOMETOWN SHOW.
UH, SO THIS IS OUR AD MAP FROM, FROM LAST YEAR, UM, UH, FROM THE 23 FESTIVAL.
AGAIN, AS FOLKS KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TWO TWO CONSECUTIVE WEEKEND.
THE SHOW RUNS FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, AND THEN REPEATS THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
FOR THE MOST PART, THE LINEUP IS THE SAME, UM, EXCEPT FOR A FEW SCHEDULING CONSTRAINTS.
IF AN ARTIST IS, IS UNABLE TO CONFIRM FOR BOTH WEEKENDS, WHICH IS ALWAYS THE PREFERENCE, UM, THERE'LL BE SOME SUBSTITUTIONS FROM ONE WEEKEND TO THE NEXT.
UH, THIS MAJESTY OF A, OF A LINEUP AND, AND, AND EVERY YEAR'S LINEUP IS CURATED BY AMY CORBIN AND MARGARET GALTON AND THEIR TEAM OF BOOKERS WHO ARE ALL BASED HERE IN AUSTIN.
UM, I DID PULL SOME STATS FOR YOU GUYS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE, THE LOCAL PARTICIPATION LOOKS LIKE, OR THE TEXAS PARTICIPATION.
SO IF THE, IF THE COUNT WAS RIGHT, THERE'S ABOUT 145 TOTAL ARTISTS, UH, OR BAND GROUPS OF ARTISTS THAT PERFORMED LAST YEAR.
UM, 21 OF THEM WERE FROM AUSTIN OF THE 1 45.
AND THEN ANOTHER, UM, 11 ARTISTS WERE FROM, UM, TEXAS, BUT NOT AUSTIN.
SO, IF I JUST DID THE MATH CORRECTLY, IT'S, IT'S AROUND 22, 20 3% OF THE LINEUP WERE FROM, FROM TEXAS, ABOUT 14% OF THE LINEUP LAST YEAR.
UH, WERE FROM AUSTIN, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GONNA FLUCTUATE EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND THESE ARE A FEW SHOTS OF FOLKS FROM FROM LAST YEAR.
I, I THOUGHT I'D TOUCHED JUST BRIEFLY, KIND OF APROPOS OF YOUR DISCUSSION HERE TONIGHT.
UM, IT, IT'S, IT'S LESSER KNOWN THAT DURING THE FESTIVAL WE ALSO DO A SERIES OF, OF LATE NIGHT SHOWS.
THEY WERE CALLED THE ACL FEST NIGHTS LAST YEAR, WHICH IS, WHICH IS OUR ATTEMPT TO ACTIVATE THE CITY AND VENUES OUTSIDE OF THE PARK DURING, DURING ACL.
SO THE VENUES WERE LISTED ON, ON THE SLIDE HERE, THERE WERE NINE VENUES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE AFTER SHOWS LAST YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF 33 SHOWS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE, THESE ARE FESTIVAL ARTISTS THAT, UH, AFTER THEY PLAY IN ZILKER WILL COME AND ON THE SAME NIGHT OR THE NIGHT BEFORE.
UM, THEY'RE USUALLY JUST THE FESTIVAL NIGHTS.
MAYBE THEY START ONE DAY OR SO BEFORE THE FESTIVAL STARTS.
BUT THIS IS A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VENDOR, THE VEN, THE VENUES, UM, AND THEIR STAFF ARE, ARE SHARING IN THE EXCITEMENT, UH, AND REVENUE THAT TAKES PLACE IN TOWN DURING THE ACL FESTIVAL.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING LIKE ON THE TECH SIDE, THEY LOOK GREAT HERE IN THE ROOM.
UM, WELL, CAN YOU GUYS, LET'S BACK UP ONE THEN.
I'LL JUST SHOW YOU GUYS THE, SORRY.
UM, YEAH, THANKS FOR SPEAKING UP.
UH, THIS, THIS IS THE ONLY MISSED ONE.
THIS IS THE AD MAT, THE LINEUP, UM, FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH YOU GUYS CAN, CAN GOOGLE IF YOU WANT TO DIG IN.
UH, AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE HERE WAS THE ONE I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE ACL FEST, UM, NIGHTS.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE STAT FROM LAST YEAR WAS 33 SHOWS, UM, AT, AT NINE VENUES.
AND THOSE ARE BASICALLY CO-PROMOTION BETWEEN, UM, THE FESTIVAL AND THAT VENUE, UM, WITH FESTIVAL ARTISTS WHO ARE PLAYING, UM, ANOTHER SHOW.
SOMETIMES IT'S A, A HUGE UNDERPLAY.
THEY'RE SEPARATELY TICKETED FROM, UH, THE FESTIVAL.
SO THESE ARE ANOTHER CHANCE TO SEE FOLKS FAVORITE ARTISTS WHILE THEY'RE IN TOWN.
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UH, NEXT ONE PLEASE.SO WE RELEASE A, UM, AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY OF THE FESTIVAL'S IMPACT EVERY YEAR.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS THROUGH LAST YEAR.
WE'RE STILL CLOSING OUT, UM, THE 2023 FESTIVAL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT TAKES MONTHS AND AFTER IT'S DONE TO, TO GET THE BILL SQUARED AWAY AND TO GET, UM, EVERYONE PAID.
SO WE WILL RELEASE A, A NEW ECONOMIC IMPACT, UM, STUDY SOMETIME THIS SPRING THAT WILL CAPTURE THE 23 FESTIVAL.
UM, THESE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF CRAZY AND, AND HARD TO, TO COMPREHEND.
SO I PULLED A COUPLE OTHER STATS TO GIVE YOU GUYS A SENSE OF, UM, THE IMPACT IT HAS ON ON AUSTIN.
SO WE, WE CREDENTIAL ABOUT 14,000 PEOPLE PER WEEKEND.
SO THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WORKING AT THE FESTIVAL, UM, EACH YEAR IN EVERY POSSIBLE, UM, UH, SECTOR THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE.
UH, BARTENDERS ALONE, WE HAD, UH, 1,241 BARTENDERS, THE, THE FIRST WEEKEND IN 1,246, UM, THE SECOND WEEKEND.
UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A, A HUGE SECURITY PRESENCE, UH, THAT IS MOSTLY LOCAL.
UM, UH, AND THEN ALL THE, ALL THE SPECIALTY TRADES THAT COME INTO THE FESTIVAL.
UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DATES ON HERE, THIS, THIS MENTIONS SINCE 2006, THE AGGREGATE NUMBER OF, OF OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S BECAUSE 2000, EVEN THOUGH THE FESTIVAL HAD BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE YEARS, WE DIDN'T START DOING THE, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, UH, REPORTS UNTIL 2006.
SO THAT'S AS FAR BACK AS THAT, THAT DATA, UM, GOES.
I THINK ANOTHER PRETTY AMAZING STATISTIC ON HERE IS IF YOU JUST TOOK THE, THE IMPACT OF THE FESTIVAL IN THOSE TWO WEEKENDS, THAT THAT SUPPORTS, UH, ALMOST 3,600 FULL-TIME JOBS IN THE AUSTIN ECONOMY, JUST FROM THAT KIND OF JOLT.
EACH OCTOBER, UH, FOOD IS A BIG PART OF ACL SO I PULLED SOME FOOD STATS FOR YOU GUYS.
UH, THESE ARE RESTAURANTS, UH, CATERING COMPANIES, FOOD TRUCKS THAT COME AND ACTIVATE AT THE FESTIVAL.
UM, 52 OF THOSE 57 WERE FROM AUSTIN LAST YEAR.
SO 91% OF OUR, OF OUR FOOD VENDORS ON SITE ARE COMING FROM THE AUSTIN AREA.
UM, THERE WAS A COTTON CANDY VENDING MACHINE APPARENTLY THAT THAT HAD TO COME FROM CHICAGO, BUT IF ANYONE HAS A COTTON CANDY VENDING MACHINE IN THE AUSTIN AREA, WE'LL WE'LL PUT IT TO WORK.
UM, NEXT YEAR I ASKED FOR ACCOUNT OF TACOS, WHICH SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST, UM, BELOVED, UH, FOOD OFFERINGS EACH YEAR.
THERE WERE, UH, SEVEN VENDORS SERVING TACOS.
SO SEVEN VENDORS OVER SIX DAYS, SERVED 56,029 TACOS, UH, AT ACL LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR, UM, I THINK YOU GUYS, UH, ARE ARE INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP, UH, WITH THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION, WHICH GOES BACK FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS, UM, IN SOME, A, A PORTION OF EVERY TICKET SOLD AND ALL THE FESTIVAL REVENUE GOES, UH, TO THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION.
AGAIN, THIS IS THROUGH THE 22 FESTIVAL.
UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE, UM, A NUMBER IN, IN THAT $7 MILLION RANGE THAT WILL GO TO A PF FROM THE 2023 FESTIVAL AS WELL.
WE JUST NEED TO, TO, TO FINALLY SETTLE THE SHOW SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEIR CUT IS.
UM, I JUST POINT OUT THAT THAT 7.2 MILLION IS IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING THAT WE PAY, UH, THE CITY AND ALL THE WORK THAT WE DO ON ZILKER.
SO THAT IS MONEY THAT'S GOING INTO PARKS ACROSS THE CITY, EXCLUDING, UM, ZILKER PARK.
AND IF YOU LOOK BACK AGAIN, NOT INCLUDING 23 SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PARTNERSHIP, THAT'S, UH, MORE THAN $60 MILLION AT THE FESTIVAL, UM, HAS GENERATED FOR AUSTIN PARKS.
UM, AND THIS IS A, AN EXAMPLE OF, OF A RECENT, UM, RIBBON CUTTING AT A, AT A PLAYGROUND.
UM, A PF HAS TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UM, UH, AUSTIN'S FIRST ALL ABILITIES PLAYGROUND AT ONION CREEK METROPOLITAN PARK, UM, THAT IS A BENEFICIARY OF A LOT OF ACL MONEY CURRENTLY.
UH, NEXT UP, UM, I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A COUPLE OTHER COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE LAUNCHED, REALLY MODELED ON THE SUCCESS WE'VE HAD IN, IN CHICAGO WITH OUR LOLLAPALOOZA FESTIVAL OF, OF ENGAGING WITH STUDENTS AT, AT ALL LEVELS.
UM, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A DAY LONG IMMERSION TOUR THAT WE HOSTED IN ZILKER PARK THE DAY BEFORE THE SITE OPENED THIS PAST FALL WHERE WE HAD, UH, 40 STUDENTS OR SO FROM TEXAS STATE AND HT AND UT AUSTIN THAT CAME IN AND HEARD FROM A DOZEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AT C3 ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
UM, GAVE FOLKS A TOUR, HAD LUNCH.
UH, WE DID TAKE THE HI-VIS BACK SO WE CAN USE THEM AGAIN THIS YEAR.
BUT THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE PART OF THE TEAM FOR THE DAY AS WE WALKED AROUND THE SITE.
AND WITH MOST OF OUR EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH PROGRAMS, THE MESSAGE IS THAT MOST OF THESE JOBS, MOST OF THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN THE SPACE IS NOT NECESSARILY ON THE STAGE, UH, BUT IT'S BEHIND STAGE OR BUILDING THE STAGE OR SERVICING THE GUESTS AT, UM, AT A FESTIVAL.
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EXCITED TO GROW THIS, UM, SOMETHING.WE HAVE TWO NEW INITIATIVES IN ADDITION TO THIS IMMERSION DAY THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, HOPEFULLY A NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH WITH A CC, UM, THAT WE'RE MEETING ON SHORTLY.
AND WE'RE ALSO, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS INTO PLANNING A NEW INITIATIVE WITH A ISD, UH, WITH AUSTIN HIGH AND ANOTHER HIGH SCHOOL THAT WILL GET STUDENTS INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AT C3 C3 THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, LEARNING ABOUT OUR INDUSTRY, WORKING ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AND THEN SEEING THEIR WORK COME TO LIFE AT ACL EACH FALL.
SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UH, NEXT ONE, OH, RELATED TO THIS, YOU GUYS MAY HAVE HEARD THAT, UH, HOUSTON TILLSON LAUNCHED A, UM, A MUSIC BUSINESS CERTIFICATE PROGRAM, UM, IN, IN LATE 2023.
UH, THIS WAS, UM, PRETTY BROAD IN ITS SCOPE.
IT'S OPEN TO HD STUDENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO OPEN TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL.
THIS IS SHOT OF, OF, OF PHILIP PAYNE.
UH, AUSTIN'S, WHO WAS THE, UM, THE LEAD INSTRUCTOR FOR, UM, THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR.
UM, WE WERE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT FINANCIALLY.
UH, WE'RE A NEIGHBOR OF HDR OFFICES ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM, FROM THEIR CAMPUS.
UM, AND WE'RE WORKING TO GET FOLKS, UH, THEY'VE, THE WHOLE GROUP HAS COME TO C3 FOR MEETINGS WITH OUR TALENT TEAM, UM, AND DISCUSS HOW THE BOOKING PROCESS WORKS.
AND THEN WE'RE HOPEFUL TO RECRUIT SOME OF THESE FOLKS INTO, UM, OUR PAID INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AT C3.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON, ON SUSTAINABILITY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP OFTEN.
UM, WE ARE, HAVE WHAT WE THINK IS A GREAT RECORD OF, OF INNOVATING AND, AND LEADING AND EXECUTING SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMS ACROSS OUR PLATFORM, WHICH REALLY GREW UP, UM, AT ACL THAT WE NOW DO ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT WE'RE SUPER PROUD OF.
FROM RECYCLING TO COMPOSTING TO BASIC STUFF.
WE'RE MAKING REAL PROGRESS ON KILLING SINGLE USE PR PLASTIC AT OUR FESTIVALS.
UM, 11 MILLION CUPS AT ACL ALONE LAST YEAR.
PLASTIC CUPS THAT WOULD'VE GONE, UM, INTO THE TRASH, UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO RECYCLE, UM, BECAUSE WE MADE A BIG INVESTMENT IN A REUSABLE CUT PROGRAM, THOSE ARE THEN WASHED AND, AND REUSED AT, UM, AT A FEATURE FESTIVAL.
UM, AND MATERIAL RECOVERY IS A NEW ONE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
WE BRING ON STAFF THAT JUST FOCUSES ON THIS AT EACH FESTIVAL.
THEY'RE LITERALLY CANVASSING THE GROUND SAYING WHAT COULD BE REUSED, UM, AFTER YOU GUYS, UH, TAKE THIS ALL APART LAST WEEK OR, OR AFTER THE FESTIVAL.
UM, AND SOME, YOU SEE SOME OF THE STATS ON THE SLIDE, BUT SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT WERE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THAT IN AUSTIN LAST YEAR WERE THE UPRISE CIRCUS, AUSTIN WILDLIFE RESCUE, AUSTIN, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, SUNSHINE CAMPS, AUSTIN CREATIVE REUSE.
WHAT IS THAT PICTURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT? IT'S A, THAT IS A DRONE SHOT OF, UH, THE ART MARKET, WHICH IS, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GREAT LAWN, UH, THEIR ART VENDORS THAT, UM, ACTIVATE AND, UH, AND SELL STUFF TO FESTIVAL ATTENDEES.
IT'S ON AN ISLAND, AS YOU CAN SEE.
UM, AND WHAT, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT PICTURE, UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE OUT, BUT WE'RE EXCITED THAT THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE MANY, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY PILOTS THAT WE DID, PAIRED DIESEL BURNING GENERATORS THAT ARE REQUIRED, UH, TO POWER STUFF LIKE THIS WITH LARGE BATTERY PACKS.
THE BATTERY PACKS WERE THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT, UM, SIX TESLA MODEL THREES.
AND BY CHARGING THOSE BATTERIES, UM, OFF THE GENERATOR, WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO USE AN AGGREGATE OF 70%, UM, LESS POWER, BECAUSE THOSE JENNIES ARE SO BIG THAT THE GENERATORS HAVE TO RUN, UM, FULL-TIME, WHETHER THEY'RE ACTUALLY PULLING OFF THE SUFFICIENT LOAD OR NOT, BY PAIRING THEM WITH A BATTERY PLANT, WE CAN JUST CHARGE THE BATTERY UP TO WHAT'S NEEDED.
AND THOSE AREAS WERE THEN PRIMARILY SERVED, UH, BY THE BATTERIES.
WE HAD A, A SOLAR TEST INSTALLATION AS WELL.
AND RENEWABLE ENERGY IS A BIG AREA THAT OUR TEAM'S GONNA CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON, UH, AND CONTINUE TO PILOT STUFF LIKE THIS BECAUSE THIS TECH IS SO NEW, UM, THAT WE'RE STILL FIGURING OUT HOW TO, UM, SAFELY, UM, UH, CHECK.
ITS, UH, ITS, ITS, ITS USABILITY AND EFFECTIVENESS.
WE'LL BE BACK, UH, THIS, THIS FALL, TWO WEEKENDS.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, A, A LINEUP ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, PROBABLY IN, UM, EARLY TO MID MAY OR WHENEVER AMY IS DONE WITH IT.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
EMIT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR COMING AND PRESENTING THIS.
UH, IT'S, IT'S, UH, AMAZING TO HAVE, UH, A VERY PROUD FEELING FOR US TO HAVE THIS AMAZING ENTITY, LIKE C3 PRESENCE HOMEGROWN ENTITY HERE IN AUSTIN.
UH, AND, UH, UM, ALSO HAVE YOU REPRESENT US, UM, AT A A DC.
SO THANK YOU FOR, UH, UH, YOUR SERVICE THERE FOR, UH, THE MUSIC COMMUNITY, UM, IN MULTIPLE FORMS. UH, I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE PRESENTATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? YES.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MAYOR CHARLA, UH, EMMETT, UH, FIRST OFF, I JUST WANNA APOLOGIZE.
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WE SAW EACH OTHER AT MOZART'S, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK, AND THEN I JUST COMPLETELY JETTED AND DIDN'T EXACTLY SAY BYE.SO, UM, I DO WANNA APOLOGIZE,
I WAS A LITTLE BIT IN A HURRY, BUT, UM, THAT KIND OF ROLLS OVER INTO MY NEXT THING.
SO, UH, YOU MENTIONED THE FACT THAT YOU, THAT, UH, C3 IS GONNA START PARTNERING WITH, UM, UH, A ISD AND A COUPLE OF OTHER, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICTS AROUND AUSTIN.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, UH, AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, A CC.
WE'RE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT, AND THEY HAVE AN EXISTING MUSIC BUSINESS PROGRAM THERE, UM, A ISD AUSTIN HIGH, AND THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, HIGH SCHOOL THAT, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PULL IN AS WELL, UH, WOULD BE, YEAH, A BRAND NEW PROGRAM.
SO, UM, WE HAVE AN ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, UH, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CASADA, WHO'S KIND OF SPEARHEADING THIS THING ABOUT, AND IT'S CALLED ALL AGES.
BASICALLY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UH, THE IMPACT ON, YOU KNOW, MUSIC AND, AND, AND IN ALL AGES AS IT IS, UM, UM, BASICALLY HOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IMPACTING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE KIDS AND THE FUTURE OF MUSIC IN, IN AUSTIN AND AROUND THE WORLD.
SO, UH, THE REASON WHY I'M SPEAKING RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT, UM, OFFLINE WITH COMMISSIONER CASADA OR JUST MYSELF, AND I CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER CASADA.
AND THIS DIRECTLY IS OF LIKE, I KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CLI KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT WEIRD, UM, BUT NOT TRYING TO GET AHEAD ON THE AGENDA, BUT I JUST WANNA BE VERY INTENTIONAL WHEN I SAY THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, RECONNECT WITH YOU AND, UH, SAY BYE NEXT TIME I SEE YOU.
UH, UH, LOVE TO HAP, HAPPY TO.
UM, AND AS I SAID AT THE TOP, WE'VE GOT A, A COUPLE HUNDRED EMPLOYEES HERE AND, UM, ONE OF 'EM JUST EMAILED ME TODAY SAYING, I HAD, I HAD, I SHARED AT AN ALL STAFF MEETING, THIS EMERGING WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH A ISD, AND HE JUST SAID, HEY, THIS IS WHY I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS STUFF.
I WANNA WORK WITH KIDS, YOU KNOW, SIGN ME UP.
AND SO WE HAVE CAPACITY TO TAKE ON MORE AND WE'D LOVE TO WORK WITH WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON.
UH, ANYONE ELSE EMIT? UH, I WAS, UM, REALLY THRILLED ALSO TO SEE THE UNIVERSITY PROGRAM, UH, WITH THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THAT YOU MENTIONED.
AND I KNOW, UH, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT HERE TODAY, BUT, UH, SHE'S ALSO VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT HAVING, UH, UH, DIVERSE WORKFORCE BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
AND IT, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THAT EFFORT IS KIND OF FEEDING INTO THAT PIPELINE OF FOLKS, NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, OF FOLKS WHO ARE PERFORMING, UH, AS ARTISTS, BUT INDUSTRY WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
IF YOU COULD, UH, TOUCH A LITTLE MORE ON THAT PROGRAM AND ANY, ANY OTHER LIKE, PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND ON.
WE, WE ARE BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT USING OUR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO DIVERSIFY THE, THE, THE PIPELINE OF OUR FULL-TIME HIRES.
SO PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, UM, OUR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM WAS NOT PAID.
SO YOU HAD TO GET COLLEGE CREDIT, RIGHT? WHICH MEANS A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, YOU HAD TO BE IN COLLEGE, RIGHT? TWO, YOU HAD TO HAVE THE, THE, THE LUXURY AND THE PRIVILEGE TO, TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT AN UNPAID INTERNSHIP.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE KIDS WE GOT AND WHAT SCHOOLS THEY CAME FROM.
SO WHEN WE CAME BACK, UH, FROM THE PANDEMIC AND WERE HAD REVENUE AGAIN, UM, WE MADE AN INTENTIONAL CHOICE TO MAKE THAT A PAID INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
UM, AND ACTUALLY TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT TO EVEN BE ENROLLED IN SCHOOL.
SO OUR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, AND I'M HAPPY TO, TO EVANGELIZE ABOUT THIS, WE DO, IT'S THREE, UM, SESSIONS A YEAR, SUMMER, SPRING, AND FALL.
UM, WE AVERAGE ABOUT 12 TO 15, UH, PAID INTERNSHIPS.
YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO BE A STUDENT TO APPLY ALL THE INFORMATION'S ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, AND IT PLAY, IT PAYS, UM, A, A, A SOLID HOURLY WAGE, UH, AND YOU GET A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THESE MUSIC PROFESSIONALS, UM, HERE IN AUSTIN.
AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THIS STUFF TAKES TIME.
UM, BUT, UH, FROM THAT, FROM THAT PIPELINE, WE HAVE ALREADY HAD FULL-TIME, UM, DIVERSE HIRES AT, AT C3.
UM, AND WE ARE CON GONNA CONTINUE TO DEMAND, UM, THAT THAT INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, UH, LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE UNTIL WE DIVERSIFY AND ARE HAPPY WITH WHAT THE REST OF THE COMPANY LOOKS LIKE.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAVE, HAS ACL RECOVERED FROM THE BACK TO THE PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS.
UM, IT IS
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WE DID IT IN 2021, JUST, JUST BARELY, UH, DID IT IN 22.WE ARE SEEING WHAT, UH, WHAT I'M SURE ALL YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IN YOUR DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE BUSINESS IS THAT THE, THE EXPENSE SIDE IS JUST NOT THE SAME.
YOU KNOW, THE EE EVERYTHING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, 30% MORE.
IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT BUSINESS.
UM, BUT WE'RE SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, ACROSS THE INDUSTRY.
LAST CHANCE COMMISSIONERS JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO SPEAK, UM, AT THE, AT OUR COMMISSION MEETING.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
WE'D LOVE TO GET TOGETHER AND, UM, I KNOW MY TEENAGE DAUGHTER'S A BIG FAN OF ACL, UM, AND, UH, UH, AGREE THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THAT'S, THAT'S FABULOUS TO HAVE IN AUSTIN.
AND, UM, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, NOT, NOT TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF THEM BECAUSE THE MEETING HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING TO, TO A CC ABOUT, UM, IS REPLICATING A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IN CHICAGO WHERE WE HAVE AN ANNUAL JOB FAIR THAT'S FOCUSED ON OUR CHICAGO FESTIVALS.
UH, WE DO TWO BIG ONES UP THERE.
UM, SO SIMILARLY IT WOULD BE FO FOCUSED ON ACL AND BE AND, AND BEST MOCHO.
UM, AND OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR SHOWS HERE, BUT WE BRING ALL OF OUR VENDORS AND PARTNERS AS WELL.
AND SO THEY'RE NOT JUST BEING EXPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE JOBS THAT MAY BE OPEN AT, AT C3 THAT WEEK, BUT ALL THE COMPANIES THAT SUPPORT THE MUSIC FESTIVAL INDUSTRY IN THAT TOWN.
AND SO, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THIS THING HAPPENS ONCE WE HAVE A DATE TO PULL IN YOU GUYS AND, AND YOUR CONTACTS AND, AND, AND YOUR, YOU KNOW, COMPANIES YOU MAY HAVE, UM, UH, CONTACTS WITH SO THAT WHEN A, WHEN A KID OR A STUDENT COMES THROUGH A JOB FAIR, THEY'RE SEEING THE, THE BROADEST POSSIBLE SWATH OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AGAIN, ON AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, OFF
OH, I REALIZE I'M TALKING TO SEVERAL MUSICIANS HERE,
[6. Discussion on musical performances for Music Commission meetings following update by Shelbi Mitchell, Program Coordinator, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON MUSICAL PERFORMANCES FOR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS, FOLLOWING UPDATE BY SHELBY MITCHELL, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, EDD HI COMMISSIONER.THANK YOU SHELBY MITCHELL, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAM COORDINATOR WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, JUST HERE TO OFFER AN UPDATE ON GETTING SOME MUSIC TO THESE MEETINGS.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ALONGSIDE COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JUST VOLUNTEERING FOR ONE AND REALLY SPEARHEADING THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND SO I'LL LEAN ON YOU ALSO IF I MISS ANYTHING.
WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING SO WELL.
BUT, UM, ULTIMATELY THIS IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN A TXN, OUR DEPARTMENT, OUR DIVISION, AND THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
AND SO WE'VE LANDED ON DOING PRERECORDING, A TXN HAS BEEN PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, AND THEY HAVE EVERYTHING SET UP TO HELP US AND DO WHAT WE NEED.
UM, ALSO, I'M, I FORGOT AUSTIN PUBLIC ACCESS WILL BE HELPING US BRING THIS TO LIFE AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH A TXN ON WHAT WE CAN EXPECT ABOUT 15 MINUTES OF PROGRAMMING OR OF A VIDEO.
WE'LL GO THROUGH TWO TO THREE SONGS, UM, WITH EVERYBODY REPRESENTED, ALL 10 DISTRICTS, UM, PICKING BANDS AND PERFORMANCE FROM THOSE DISTRICTS.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH THEM AS WELL, HAVING A CHANCE TO LEARN AND SIT AND TALK WITH THOSE BAND MEMBERS WHILE BEING PAID, MOST IMPORTANTLY.
UM, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THIS CONTENT WILL BE SHARED ACROSS A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLKS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR ARTISTS WILL HAVE THAT CONTENT FOR THEM TO USE.
UM, WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO IT, AUSTIN PUBLIC, AUSTIN PUBLIC ACCESS WILL ALSO RUN IT, AND THEN A TXN WILL HAVE IT LIVE ON, UM, ANYTHING.
ALL OF THEIR, UM, THEY HAVE YOUTUBE AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE, SO IT'LL BE IN THEIR HANDS.
BUT LIKE I SAID, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT THIS, OR WE IMAGINE THIS BEING VERY FRUITFUL FOR THE ARTISTS AT, AT THE FRONT OF ALL OF THIS.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CREATE CONTENT, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO USE, NOT JUST US, BUT THESE ARTISTS TO, IF THEY USE IT, RIGHT, UM, IT COULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL WITH US PAYING FOR EVERYTHING AND PROVIDING EVERYTHING FOR THEM TO HAVE QUALITY, UH, PROGRAMMING AND QUALITY VIDEO FOR THEM TO SHARE ON SOCIALS AND BE ON.
AND SO, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS, PLEASE FILL IN ANY BLANK SPOTS AND I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
PLEASE GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
SO, UH, UH, IMAGINE, UM, GUYS, LIKE, UH, IT'S BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME THING AS WE WERE DOING BEFORE.
LIKE WHERE WE WOULD SEE THE ARTISTS WOULD COME IN AND
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WE WOULD SEE A VIDEO OF THEM AND THEY WOULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TALK.UM, IT'S BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME KIND OF FORMAT EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT ON THE BACK END OF THINGS, UM, IT'S BEING, UH, RECORDED.
UM, AT, UM, UH, AUSTIN, NOT, NOT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, BUT, UH, SHELBY, WHERE IS IT? AUSTIN PUBLIC ACCESS, AUSTIN EXCUSE BEING RECORDED.
UM, AND IT, THERE'S A WHOLE, LIKE, I, I BELIEVE IT'S 15 TO 20 MINUTES, I BELIEVE IT'S TWO SONGS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
AND, UM, AND THEN I, THERE MAY BE LIKE A TALK OR SOMETHING IN THERE, BUT BASICALLY THERE'S A FULL ON VERY WELL PRODUCED VIDEO THAT EACH DISTRICT WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, UM, SO SELECT AN ARTIST TO, TO, TO BE ENGAGED IN THAT EVERYONE OBVIOUSLY GETS PAID.
AND THEN DURING THE COMMISSION MEETINGS, THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, GIVE A TALK OR, OR, YOU KNOW, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD WANNA SEE CHANGED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND, UM, UH, WE, WE JUST KIND OF ROLL IT FROM THERE.
THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE, HOW IS IT THAT WE ACTUALLY SELECT THE ARTISTS AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT FAIR? UH, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION HERE.
UM, SO, UM, CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME? I'M SORRY.
I GOT, UM, I THINK, UH, JUST KNOW YOUR VOLUME WENT DOWN.
UH, IS, AM, AM I BACK? IT LOOKS LIKE I'M BACK.
IT'S YET, UH, IT WAS FINE TILL THE WOMAN BACK.
IS THAT BETTER? IS THAT GOOD? YEAH, BETTER.
UM, SO THE, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY DISCUSS WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO, TO DO, HOW WE WANNA DO IT AS FAR AS SELECTING THE ARTISTS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, UM, WE WOULD BASICALLY ROLL ONE ARTIST INTO ACTUALLY GO AND SHOOT THIS AT ALSO PUBLIC ACCESS.
UH, THEY GET KIND OF A FEEL OF HOW THINGS ARE GONNA GO.
AND THEN FROM THEN WE START SCHEDULING TWO BANDS OUT AT A TIME.
AND THEN, UM, WE BASICALLY ROLL THE ENTIRE CALENDAR.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY, I MEAN, THE PRODUCTION MIGHT GO INTO, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR, OR IT WOULD PROBABLY FINISH AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THERE.
THERE WAS ALSO TALK ABOUT THE, FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF US ABOUT THE, UH, UH, A PERFORMANCE LIKE ON THE ROOF OF, UM, THE LI THE TOP OF THE LIBRARY.
UH, WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH, I THINK, NIXED THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO HANDLE.
NOT ENTIRELY, UM, NOT, NOT ENTIRELY, BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A LIVE PERFORMANCE.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS FIRST AND THEN WE CAN DO THAT IF, IF, IF I MAY.
UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE A FIRST, IT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENED TO COME ABOUT FIRST.
THIS WILL STILL BE, WE'LL STILL BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BRING THE LIVE.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL ALL OF THIS GETS DONE, OR MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL FIGURE OUT ALONG THE WAY, JUST BASED ON CAPACITY AND HOW THINGS FALL ON EVERYBODY'S PLATES.
'CAUSE I DO WANNA REMIND YOU ALL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE LED BY YOU, UM, WITH OUR SUPPORT.
UM, AND SO IT'S BASED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT MEASURES OF CAPACITY AND BANDWIDTH.
UM, BUT WE ARE TALKING TO PARTNERS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN, I KNOW, UM, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND AND I, WE TALKED ABOUT HOPEFULLY LIFTING SOMETHING IN FALL, IN THE FALL.
UM, AND MAYBE WE CAN STILL HAVE CONVERSATION AROUND THAT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE BASED ON AVAILABILITY.
AND WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS, UM, YOUR OWN PARTNERSHIPS OR YOUR OWN PEOPLE THAT CAN MAYBE OFFER A VENUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S, LIKE I SAID, SINCE IT'S LED BY Y'ALL, THIS IS, YOU CAN GET AS INVOLVED AS YOU WANT TO AND BRING US WHATEVER WE NEED.
ULTIMATELY, WE ARE READY TO PAY MUSICIANS AT THE VERY, LIKE START.
UM, AND THEN EVERYTHING AFTER THAT CAN BE, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, TO REALLY TRY AND MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN.
THE PRERECORDING JUST HAPPENED TO FALL IN OUR LAP.
'CAUSE A TXN IS JUST SO AMAZING AND THEY OFFERED THEIR TIME TO DO THIS, UM, FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PAY BAND MEMBERS OR MUSICIANS ALIKE.
BUT I DID WANT, I ALWAYS WANNA REMIND Y'ALL THAT, AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I THINK ALL OF THIS IS REALLY GREAT NEWS.
AND IF, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF WE, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, IT'S BEYOND EVEN WHAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY ASKED FOR.
SO IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO OFFER ARTISTS HERE, SO IT'S FANTASTIC.
SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
UM, AND, UH, YES, IF WE CAN STILL PURSUE THE OTHER OPTION AND IT OPENS UP ANOTHER AVENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE MORE
AND IT, THE DOOR'S ALWAYS OPEN.
LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS, ANY, ANYBODY THAT COMES TO MIND, I'M HAPPY TO HOP ON A CALL, WHATEVER, LIKE GET THINGS STRAIGHT, WHATEVER NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
I REALLY WANT TO EMPOWER Y'ALL AND ENCOURAGE YOU AS YOU HAVE TIME.
I KNOW Y'ALL ARE REALLY BUSY, BUT WE CAN,
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IF Y'ALL CAN HELP WITH THAT, THAT MIGHT BE THE THING THAT JUST SHIFTS THIS ENTIRE PROJECT.AND MAYBE WE CAN GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE ARE THINKING ABOUT GETTING PRE-RECORDING SCHEDULED STARTING APRIL.
UM, WE GOTTA GET THROUGH SOME OF THE BUSIEST TIMES OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE HOPE TO AT LEAST START RECORDING.
YEAH, I MEAN, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, JUST WANNA JUMP IN AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, BUT THAT WE, DAO IS DOING ALL THIS CURRENTLY, UM, RECORDING AND PUTTING THINGS LIVE, LIVE STREAMING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO DEFINITELY, UH, GLAD TO BE, YOU KNOW, SERVICE AND LEARN MORE.
WE'RE, WE'RE DOING ALL THAT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY GREAT FOR PRE-RECORDING.
MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT WITH A TXN.
IT'S JUST, UH, AUSTIN PUBLIC JUST WORKED OUT 'CAUSE EVERYTHING WAS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COLLABORATE FREE, LIKE FOR FREE WITH THESE THINGS BASED ON HOW WE'RE FUNDED.
BUT IF THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP THERE WITH PRERECORDING AS WELL, WE CAN DEFINITELY CHOP IT UP.
UM, I THINK, AND IF YOU CAN DO A LIVE CONCERT TOO, MAYBE DAWA CAN HELP WITH HOW WE BRING THAT TO LIFE AS WELL AND CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.
I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING MEETING.
NO, JUST SHARING, JUST SHARING THAT, JUST SHARING THAT WITH Y'ALL THAT, UH, YEAH.
WE, WE CAN DO PRERECORDING, WE CAN DO LIVE, UH, LIVE STREAMING, UM, ALL THAT CURRENTLY AND WOULD LOVE TO, UH, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S, UH, ARTISTS OF COLOR.
WE'RE DOING THAT FOR FREE ON MONDAYS AND TUESDAYS.
UM, ABSOLUTELY FREE OF CHARGE.
UH, COMMISSIONER MAHOME, UM, ANYBODY ELSE, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? SO WE ARE LOOKING TO GET STARTED IN APRIL.
AND IN TERMS OF CRITERIA, I MEAN, UH, WOULD YOU ALL WANNA STICK TO HOW WE WERE DOING THIS BEFORE? IS EVERY COMMISSIONER PICKS AN ARTIST ON AND, AND THAT SPEAKS TO THEM OR SPEAKS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WANT TO, UH, REPRESENT ANY, ANY, ANY, ANY, ANY CRITERIA, BUT KIND OF KEEP IT LOOSE, BUT JUST GO DISTRICT BY DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE DOING, UH, WHEN WE WERE, UH, PRESENTING AT THE, AT THE COMMISSION BEFORE.
UH, DO HAVE HAVING THAT KIND OF A FORMAT.
UH, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT, UH, UH, UH, SHELBY WAS, WAS KIND OF CONCERNED WITH WAS, UM, LIKE JUST IN THE INTEREST OF LIKE FAIRNESS AND, AND HOW WE ACTUALLY DETERMINE IF SOMEONE'S ELIGIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, PERFORMING AND ALL, AND, AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
WHICH I, UH, WHICH I, WHICH I DO AGREE WITH.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DISCUSS NOW AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT.
UM, ARE THE COMMENTS ON CRITERIA SO WE CAN ESTABLISH SOMETHING AND, UH, KIND OF START PUTTING SOME THOUGHT INTO WHO WE WANT TO, UM, BRING IN, IN THIS FIRST ROUND.
OR WE COULD, UM, USE, UH, THE, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND CRITERIA FOR HOW THEY'RE DEFINING, UH, AN ELIGIBLE MUSICIANS USE.
SOMETHING REALLY SIMPLE LIKE THAT.
UH, TWO YEARS OF, UH, PERFORMANCES ON RECORD, OR SIX SINGLE RELEASES, OR I THINK THERE WAS A THIRD ONE.
UH, I, I FORGOT WHAT THAT WAS.
BUT WE COULD USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND, AND USE THAT AS THE, LIKE THE MINIMUM, UM, CRITERIA.
AND, AND AFTER THAT IT'S, IT'S FAIR GAME.
THOUGHTS? THUMBS UP FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER GOULD? ANY OTHER THUMBS UP FROM YOU? SO YOU, YOU WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT TYPE OF CRITERIA FOR US TO SELECT THE ARTIST? YEAH, YEAH.
HOW DO YOU SELECT THE ARTIST? UH, I WAS EARLIER JUST SUGGESTING, LET'S JUST SKIP IT THE SAME WAY.
LEAVE IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS, EACH COMMISSIONER TO DECIDE, UM, IF, IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS AROUND, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A MINIMUM ELIGIBILITY ON WHO YOU WANT TO BRING IN? UM, UM, I'M SUGGESTING MAYBE WE, UM, UH, JUST, JUST USE WHAT ERICA SHARED EARLIER.
UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO HAS PERFORMED A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS OR HAS SIX SINGLE RELEASES AND THERE'S A THIRD ONE THAT I CAN, I CAN SHARE.
ERICA, WHAT WAS THE THIRD ONE? DO YOU REMEMBER?
IT COULD BE SOMEBODY THEY MET THAT DAY AND, OR, YOU KNOW, A WEEK BEFORE THEY HEARD ON THE STREET.
AND IT'S JUST LIKE, YO, I, HE LIVES IN MY DISTRICT OR WHATEVER.
TO ME, THAT MAKES IT INTERESTING.
UM, TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL PERSON AND, AND WHY, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHY THEY'RE PRESENTING HIM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY HAVE A RECORD OUT OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF MUSICIANS AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT INTERESTING.
JUST KEEP IN MIND IT COULD BE TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE 30 YEARS AGO, AND PEOPLE JUST, WHO HAVEN'T PERFORMED IN A LONG TIME FOR WHATEVER REASON.
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PERFORMER OR THAT GENRE.IT NEEDS TO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT, YOU REPRESENT THE COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU, UH, REPRESENT, AND YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, UH, OF IT JUST BEING A WIDE VARIETY OF GENRES, UH, TO REPRESENT ALL OF THE DIVERSE MUSIC COMING OUT OF AUSTIN AND THAT IT WAS BY DISTRICT.
AND, AND VERY HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK WE EVEN STUCK TO, UH, BRINGING AN ARTIST SPECIFICALLY FROM THE DISTRICT BEFORE.
I THINK IT WAS VERY MUCH LEFT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, THE MUSIC COMMISSIONERS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOME FOLKS WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT GENRE, SOME WANTED TO BRING SOMEBODY FROM THEIR DISTRICT, OTHERS WANTED TO, YEAH.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER MAHON IS SAYING IS WHAT SPEAKS TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, BRING THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ARTIST IN.
WE CAN TOTALLY IMPLEMENT THAT.
AND WE CAN ALSO, IF YOU WANT TO THINK MORE ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE FAIR AND TRANSPARENT, I MEAN, THAT WAS A CONCERN OF MINE TO MITIGATE EVERYTHING FOR THE COMMISSION.
UM, BUT, UM, WE CAN THINK ABOUT THIS AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP IT.
UM, MAYBE A NAME, LIKE, I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE GIVE THIS TO MUSICIANS AS WELL.
'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP.
SO WHATEVER YOUR MOTIVATIONS AND INSPIRATIONS ARE, WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT.
WE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DECIDE TONIGHT AS WE CONTINUE TO LOGISTICALLY SET THINGS IN PLACE.
UH, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ARTISTS BY MARCH SO THAT WE CAN START PLUGGING IN SOME DATES AND BE READY FOR A TX IN TO PUT THAT ON THEIR CALENDAR AS WELL.
SO, UM, IF WE MAKE A DECISION ON HOW WE WANT TO DO THIS, UM, IN MARCH, IT MIGHT BE A BIT TOO LATE.
BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS IF YOU CAN'T DECIDE RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I'LL STEP BACK TO LET Y'ALL DO WHAT Y'ALL DO.
WELL, DOES ANYBODY JUST WANT TO, UH, VOLUNTEER TO GO FIRST AND SELECT AN ARTIST? DID, DID, DIDN'T, UH, COMMISSIONER DAVILA ALREADY HAVE SOME ARTISTS SCHEDULED THAT NEEDED TO BE RESCHEDULED? YES.
WE HAD, UH, COMMISSIONER DAVILA AND TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY, UH, WITH, WITH ARTISTS THAT WERE READY TO GO.
COMMISSIONER MAHO WAS ONE OF THEM.
AND THEN, UH, I THINK THERE WAS, UH, ONE MORE I'LL, I'LL, I'LL REMEMBER.
SO WE COULD GET STARTED WITH THEM AND, BUT AGAIN, I AGREE.
LET'S KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE WAS NO HARD AND FAST, YOU KNOW, CRITERIA THERE.
THIS IS COMMISSIONERS MAKING THE, THE SELECTION.
AND, UH, WE CAN DECIDE TO GO WITH THAT.
DO ROUND ONE AND, AND GO FROM THERE.
HOW ABOUT THAT? AND SEE HOW IT PANS OUT.
I THINK WE ARE, WE'RE WE'RE SETTLED.
IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ON WHICH ARTISTS THEY BRING IN, UH, THIS FIRST ROUND.
UH, IT'S AGAIN, UH, THANKS FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
UH, I THINK THIS IS JUST A FANTASTIC, UH, UH, OFFERING ALL AROUND.
THE, SO, UH, IS, IS COMMISSIONER MAHOME, UM, ARE YOU ON DECK OR IS, UH, COMMISSIONER AVIO ON DECK FIRST? SO THERE IS MORE THAN ONE ARTIST RIGHT, THAT WE CAN BRING IN IN APRIL.
UH, WE'LL START WITH ONE, START WITH ONE, ONE WITH THE FIRST DATE, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE ARTISTS LINE UP.
THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO GET AS MANY IDEAS SO WE CAN BOOK THEM.
AND YEAH, IF YOU, IF IF Y'ALL, I MEAN, IF Y'ALL WANT, WE COULD, WE COULD DO MINE A D OR IF YOU AS JUST SUCK IF YOU WANT TO DO A TXM, BUT LIKE WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT AND, AND PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU WANT.
AND THE ARTIST, EVERYTHING YOU JUST MENTIONED.
SO, UM, SO LET'S GO WITH THAT AND I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH COMMISSIONER DAVILA AND, UM, THE THIRD COMMISSIONER.
I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHO THAT WAS.
WAS IT, WAS IT LAURA LAUREN? NO, YOU SKIPPED THAT.
I, I THINK IT WAS WAS WE'LL, COMMISSIONER BARTELL BAR.
BAREL, BAREL, COMMISSIONER BAREL.
UM, AND I'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM SO AT LEAST WE CAN GET THEIR ARTISTS LINED UP, UM, AND TO GO.
THERE, THERE, THERE'S ONE, UM, ONE SMALL UPDATE, UH, THAT I DO WANNA SAY.
UH, SO, UH, I FORGET, UH, THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME, UH, BURTON, I BELIEVE IS EITHER HIS FIRST NAME OR HIS LAST NAME.
AND HE, HE'S, SO, HE'S THE, UH, YOU KNOW, EMMY AWARD-WINNING, UH, PRODUCING GUY.
THE REASON, UM, WHY I'M SAYING THAT PART OF IT IS BECAUSE HE'S ALSO GOING TO REACH OUT, UH, TO AUSTIN.
THE, THE, THE, THE, THE TECH PEOPLE THAT FACILITATE OUR MEETINGS.
AND THERE, APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME BRAND NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY'RE JUST BRINGING IN.
AND SO WHEN WE SEE THESE PERFORMANCES, WE WILL NOT SEE THEM ALL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SCATTERED AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE THEM IN REAL TIME THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SEEING IT ON A TXN.
SO I JUST, WELL HYPE, HOPEFULLY IT ALL WORKS OUT, BUT THAT'S, UM,
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ALSO A, AN UPDATE.UM, YEAH, I KNOW, UM, ESPECIALLY LIKE WHEN WE WERE ALL ONLINE, UH,
WELL, THANK YOU SHELBY, SO MUCH.
[7. Discussion on all ages shows and how we support youth in Austin.]
ITEM.WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON ALL AGES SHOWS AND HOW WE SUPPORT YOUTH IN AUSTIN.
UH, COMMISSIONER ADA OR COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, IF ONE OF YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS.
I THINK COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND MADE MORE HEADWAY THAN I DID, UM, ON THE ALL AGES.
UH, SO YEAH, I CAN, I CAN TAKE THAT TOO.
SO, UH, THE, UH, I WAS FORWARDED TO A COUPLE.
I CONTACTED, UH, A ISD, I'VE, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
I'VE BEEN GETTING A COUPLE OF, UM, PEOPLE THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM.
APPARENTLY THE GENTLEMAN THAT I NEED TO SPEAK WITH, I'M NOT GONNA NAME HIM, UH, BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA LIKE, HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE OR ANYTHING, BUT I HATE TO, UM, TALK WITH HIM.
AND, AND HE IS PROBABLY THE PERSON THAT'S ACTUALLY TALKING TO C3 BASED ON, UM, MR. BEBO'S, UH, COMMENTS EARLIER.
SO, UM, THERE'S SOME FOLLOW THROUGH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.
UM, DID ALSO REACH OUT TO MR. LOZANO, OMAR LOZANO FROM VISIT AUSTIN.
AND I DID END UP ASKING HIM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW BASICALLY ALLS SHOWS ARE CURATED.
AND WHAT WAS AN INTERESTING, UH, POINT THAT HE, THAT THAT, THAT HE SAID WAS, AND IT'S NOT A A BAD THING AT ALL, IS THAT THEY'RE BASICALLY CURATED THE EXACT SAME WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY SHOW IN AUSTIN WOULD BE CURATED.
AND SO, UH, AND, AND, AND SOME OF THE RESEARCH AND THINGS THAT I'VE, I'VE BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, VERY RUDIMENTARY RESEARCH, GRANTED, BUT IT, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH, UM, WITH I GUESS THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND, UH, ALL AGES SHOWS, LIKE SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT IS, UH, IF YOU'RE, UH, IN A 60 PLUS COMMUNITY, OR WHETHER IT IS THAT YOU'RE IN THE 18 TO, OR 16 TO 2 24 COMMUNITY, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE'S NOT REALLY, UM, A, A BUNCH OF ENGAGEMENT BASED AROUND THOSE PARTICULAR GROUPS OF PEOPLE.
IF, IF, IF THAT'S MAKING SENSE.
WHAT, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, UH, IT, WE'RE BASICALLY JUST RUNNING SHOWS AND, AND, AND SOME OF THEM ARE ALL AGENTS AND SOME OF THEM ARE BASICALLY, AND SO WE'RE NOT REALLY BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT, ABOUT CULTURE AND DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY CONCERNING ALL AGENT SHOWS AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT.
AND SO JUST, JUST BASED ON, UH, AGAIN, CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING, I HAD ONE WITH MY YOUTH PASTOR, I HAD ONE WITH, UM, UM, MR. LOZANO AND SOME RESEARCH THAT I'VE BEEN DOING.
I THINK THAT THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE IT TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION AND BASICALLY SEE HOW IT IS, UH, THAT WE CAN BE MORE INTENTIONAL AS, UH, UM, UM, AS A CITY PROGRAM, BASICALLY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BASICALLY KIND OF, I DON'T WANNA SAY TARGETING, UM, THE, THE, THE YOUTH OR TARGETING, YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE SENIORS, BUT AS A WAY OF ENGAGING THEM INTENTIONALLY TO, TO TO, TO, UH, AT LEAST EITHER MAKE THEM COME OUT TO SHOWS OR, OR, OR ALLOW FOR THEM TO COME OUT TO SHOWS OR TO, UM, UM, GET, HOLD ON, I'M SORRY.
UH, EITHER MAKE THEM, OR ASKING THEM TO COME OUT THE SHOWS OR, YOU KNOW, WITH BANDS, CULTURE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS.
BASICALLY WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IS HOW IS IT THAT THE CITY CAN ENGAGE WITH HIGH SCHOOLS, COLLEGES? HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN GET INTO THESE SPACES, KIND OF LIKE A CAREER DAY SORT OF THING OR SOMETHING.
AND MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S A CONCERT, MAYBE IT'S SOME KIND OF, UM, LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE LIKE EMMETT BEVO IS GOING TO SPEAK TO THESE HIGH SCHOOLS AND HAVING SORT OF A CAREER DAY KIND OF THING.
MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER MAHOME, YOU KNOW, LIKE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU, YOU ARE, YOU ARE DOING THIS OR NOT DOING THIS, COMMISSIONER, I'M JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT I'M SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO, UM, HIGH SCHOOLS, MIDDLE SCHOOLS, COLLEGES, GETTING THEM INVOLVED, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING STUDENTS INVOLVED IN, UH, THE ECOSYSTEM THAT IS AUSTIN MUSIC, BASICALLY.
SOME REALLY GREAT IDEAS IN THERE.
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UM, I THINK, YEAH, ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING KIND OF CONCRETE ACTIONABLE THAT WE WANT TO RECOMMEND, WE CAN MOVE THIS TO THE, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. IF WE CAN EVEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVE, HAVE LIKE, OKAY, THESE ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO USING CITY RESOURCES TOWARDS, UH, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR LINE AGENDA, THEN WE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE IT TO THE, UM, THE ACTION ITEMS, UM, OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.UM, ANY, ANY FEEDBACK FROM CITY STAFF IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC.
UM, AND, AND YEAH, WE WILL, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA.
UH, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST REFLECTING ON, UH, THE IDEAS THAT SCOTT HAS BROUGHT FORTH, IF, IF, UM, UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAS FURTHER SUGGESTIONS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE DO BRING THEM IN.
[8. Discussion on music journalism and access to media coverage in Austin.]
ON, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON MUSIC JOURNALISM AND ACCESS TO MEDIA COVERAGE IN AUSTIN.UH, THIS WAS ADDED LAST TIME AND, UH, UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER CASADA, UH, WE'VE BEEN, UH, TALKING ABOUT YOUR, YOUR RECOMMENDATION AROUND POTENTIALLY BRINGING IN SOME MEDIA FOLKS, ESPECIALLY, UH, JOURNALISTS, UH, TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC.
UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SPEAK ON THIS, UH, ITEM WHO WILL, THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE, UH, REST OF THE COMMISSION.
UM, SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH, UM, DEBORAH SING GUPTA, UM, STIFF AND KEVIN CURTIN.
UM, AND THEY'RE BOTH INTERESTED IN COMING, UM, UH, TO THE COMMISSION AND KIND OF SHEDDING SOME LIGHT ON, UM, MAYBE THE STATE OF MUSIC JOURNALISM AND HOW TO PURSUE ACCESS TO MEDIA COVERAGE IN AUSTIN.
UM, THEY, UH, WERE UNAVAILABLE TO MAKE IT FOR THIS MEETING.
UM, DEBRA FELT LIKE SHE WOULD HAVE MORE BANDWIDTH WITH AFTER SOUTH BY, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE KIND OF FEELING IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, IS TO LET THEM KIND OF GET THROUGH MARCH, UH, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, UM, AND THEN TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND.
BUT THEY WERE BOTH VERY INTERESTED IN, UM, UM, MORE DISCUSSION ON THOSE TOPICS.
AND, AND ACTUALLY WE DID, UM, SPEAK ABOUT THE ALL AGES, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THERE, UH, UH, UH, AS WELL.
UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO KIND OF FLESHING THAT OUT, UM, AS SOON AS THEY HAVE MORE BANDWIDTH, PROBABLY AFTER SOUTH BY.
UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA FOR, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, PURSUING THE LEADS AROUND THAT, I THINK, I THINK GETTING SOME PROFESSIONALS FROM THE INDUSTRY TO COME AND SPEAK ON THE TOPIC, UM, I THINK WOULD BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC? AND THANK YOU.
[9. Discussion on music commission budget recommendations.]
UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, DISCUSSION ON MUSIC COMMISSION BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.UH, SO WE GOT AN UPDATE ON THIS, THAT THIS IS DUE AT THE END OF MARCH.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS, UH, TO SEE IF, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY THOUGHTS.
UM, COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR, PATTERSON AND MYSELF WILL PUT A DRAFT TOGETHER.
WE ARE ALSO KIND OF BOUNCING OFF IDEAS, UH, LATER THIS MONTH WITH THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHAIRPERSON CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ON THE, ON THE ART SIDE.
AND WE'LL PUT A DRAFT TOGETHER AND HAVE, UM, THE COMMISSION HERE REACT TO THAT, UM, AGAIN IN, IN MARCH BEFORE WE SUBMIT IT.
BUT TO GET STARTED WITH, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFICS, UM, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UH, LAST YEAR WE, WE HAD, UM, UM, A CONTINGENCY FUND FOR MUSICIANS, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO BAD WEATHER.
UM, WE HAD, UH, A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION FOR A A DC.
UM, WHAT ELSE, UM, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, DO YOU, UH, RECALL? ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAD? I THINK THESE WERE THE, THE MAIN ONES, UH, INCREASING THE, I THINK WE HAD A REQUEST IN FOR INCREASING THE, UM, FUNDING, UH, FOR PERFORMANCES FROM EDD FROM THE CITY.
UH, I THINK IT WAS AROUND SIX 60 AND WE REC REQUESTED 90, OR THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN UPTICK, UH, IN, IN THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO, UH, PERFORMANCES FROM, UH, EDD.
UM, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? UM, WELL,
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WE DID TALK ABOUT CSAP, UM, EARLIER, SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN, A FUNDING AREA THAT WE'D LIKE TO, TO SEE IN THE BUDGET.UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OBVIOUSLY GAP FUNDING FOR RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, UM, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME IF THAT'S GONNA COME TO PASS, UH, OR NOT AS A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT.
UM, BUT WE, SO WE MAY WANNA THINK ABOUT THAT AS A ALSO, UH, A FISCAL YEAR 24, 25, UH, BUDGET ITEM.
ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? YES.
SO, UH, I, I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER MAYOR CHARLIE ALREADY, UH, MENTIONED THE, UH, UM, THE, THE EMERGENCY FUNDING OR THE, THE, THE FUNDING FOR INCLEMENT WHETHER OR CANCELED YES.
BUT THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER GOUL WAS, WAS, WAS, WAS SPONSORING THEIR ART OR PUT ON THE PUT ON THE TABLE.
UM, THE, UH, VERY SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S, UH, A $400,000 SURPLUS IN THE BUCKET FOR, UM, LIFE FROM THE AUSTIN MUSIC FUND.
THAT, AND THIS, I GUESS COULD POSSIBLY BE ITS OWN RECOMMENDATION, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, EITHER ALL OR SOME OF THOSE FUNDS USED FOR VENUES AND, UM, UH, MUSICIANS TO, AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY EVERYONE THAT'S PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM TO ACTUALLY AND USE FOR STRICTLY PROMOTION AND PROMOTING OF THEIR SHOWS.
UH, SO BASICALLY WHAT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS A, UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CHRIS HAWKS FROM THE BAND, DON AND HAWKS ACTUALLY HAD THE IDEA OF, SO I CAN'T TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR THIS, BUT THIS IS BASICALLY WHERE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN, YOU BASICALLY APPLY FOR THE FUNDS EXACTLY LIKE YOU WOULD AUSTIN MUSIC FUND, AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN YOUR POCKET TO BE ABLE TO STRICTLY PROMOTE THE SHOW THAT YOU ARE PUTTING ON.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED BASED ON HOT EXPENSES THAT THAT'S UP TO, THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT ALS, AND IT'S ALSO SPECIFICALLY BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THAT $400,000 SURPLUS TO USE THOSE TO USE AS WE SEE FIT, NOT AS WE SEE FIT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT REMINDS ME, WE ALSO HAD, UH, ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION LAST TIME, I BELIEVE, AROUND, UH, INCREASING, UM, THE MARKETING DOLLARS FOR VISIT AUSTIN.
UM, WE HAD A LINE ITEM FOR THAT.
UM, SO, UM, THIS, IN THIS CASE, YOU ARE TALKING MORE ABOUT ARTISTS BEING ABLE TO DIRECTLY APPLY FOR MARKETING DOLLARS.
AND, AND, AND, AND ALSO, NOTHING, NOTHING AGAINST, UH, UH, VISIT AUSTIN AT ALL.
I THINK THEY DO AMAZING AND GREAT WORK, BUT I, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN GOD.
SO I I, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LIKE NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, I MEAN, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION BASICALLY, UM, WITH A, WITH A TON OF MONEY, AND THEY DON'T REALLY NEED THIS.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ME SAYING IT, BUT I'M, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD NOT, I WOULD NOT LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT VISIT AUSTIN, UH, GETS ANY OF THIS MONEY.
UM, WHO ELSE, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, SO ALLOW, UH, ALLOW ME AND, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON TO COME UP WITH THE DRAFT AND, UH, WE'LL, UH, BRING THE, BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION NEXT TIME TO RESPOND TO, AND, UH, WE'LL SUBMIT IT AFTERWARDS.
AND, AND ALSO, I, I DO WANNA MAKE CLEAR, UH, THAT THOSE MARKETING DOLLARS WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE USED FOR, UM, ANYONE THAT IS PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, UH, PROMOTERS, UH, VENUES, ALL OF IT.
ANY, ANYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN AND, AND, AND GET THOSE DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO BOOST POSTS AND, AND, AND, UM, APPLY THOSE FUNDS AS NEEDED TO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO GET PEOPLE AT THOSE SHOWS.
NO, NO, JUST, JUST MAKING, MAKING SOME NOTES.
[10. Discussion on calendar for Live Music Fund awardee events.]
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON CALENDAR FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND WADI EVENTS.[02:15:01]
UH, ANY UPDATE FROM STAFF ON THIS ONE? ERICA, THANK YOU.HELLO COMMISSIONERS, ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE DO HAVE A SOLUTION THAT WE COULD USE THROUGH A PUBLIC FACING, UH, PUBLIC FACING OPEN DATA PORTAL, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH OUR DATA TEAM TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, FIRST JUST TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT, AND THEN GETTING A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR AWARDEES TO PUT THEIR EVENTS INTO THAT PORTAL.
UH, AND SO IT'S JUST IN PROCESS.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, FOR FY 24 FOR THIS NEXT ROUND OF AWARDEES WE HOPE TO HAVE IN PLACE, UH, SO THAT IT'S EASILY SEARCHABLE OF WHAT EVENTS ARE BEEN FUNDED, YOU KNOW, SO FAR WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
THANKS FOR, UH, FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, ERICA.
SO THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BRAND NEW PORTAL, I'M SORRY? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A BRAND NEW PORTAL? NO, IT'S OUR CURRENT, UH, PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES.
ALL OF THAT GOES INTO OUR PORTAL SYSTEM, AND OUR DATA TEAM IS WORKING ON A PUBLIC FACING VERSION OF THAT.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER OPEN DATA PORTALS YOU'VE SEEN ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN WEBSITE.
SO IT'S A CITY OF AUSTIN TOOL.
UM, AND THIS, THIS WOULD PROVIDE US, UM, IT WOULD PROVIDE US THE DATA IN TERMS OF WHAT IS GETTING FUNDED FROM THE, THE CITY GRANTS.
UM, BUT, UM, WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR GENERAL AUDIENCE WOULD COME AND LOOK FOR INFORMATION AS TO, IT WOULD BE SEARCHABLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOWS ARE HAPPENING, AND THEN YOU HAPPEN TO SEE, OKAY, GREAT, THIS, THIS ALSO GETTING, UH, FUNDED BY THIS PROGRAM.
UH, WOULD THEY BE SEEKING OUT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, USER INTERFACE, LIKE FOR, FOR INFORMATION ON WHAT SHOWS ARE GOING ON IN TOWN? IT WOULD BE A SEARCHABLE DATABASE OF THE DATA THAT IS THERE AND THAT WE CAN ADD FIELDS FOR 2024 EVENTS OR PROJECTS.
SO YOU COULD SEARCH BY AN ARTIST'S NAME, A TYPE OF GENRE, YOU KNOW, AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO CONNECT BACK TO AND DRILL DOWN THE, DO THE DATA, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE A MORE, YOU KNOW, A TRADITIONAL MARKETING CALENDAR THAT YOU WOULD SEE ON A VARIETY OF WEBSITES.
UM, THAT IS, IT'S NOT THAT THIS WOULD BE STILL A PRETTY COOL LOOKING OPEN, YOU KNOW, SEARCHABLE DATA PORTAL.
UH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE CAPACITY OF A SEARCHABLE DATABASE THAT IS PUBLICLY FACING FROM A MARKETING POINT OF VIEW, IS THAT'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER LIFT THAT COSTS MONEY.
AND WE HAVE WONDERFUL ORGANIZATIONS IN AUSTIN THAT DO DO THAT, THAT ARE FOR-PROFITS, NON-PROFITS.
SO IF THERE IS A WAY TO WORK A RELATIONSHIP OUT WHERE FOLKS COULD SUBMIT THEIR LIVE MUSIC FUND PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THOSE THINGS, GREAT.
AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THAT THEMSELVES RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, AS PART OF THEIR COMMITMENTS TO POST THEIR EVENTS INTO, SAY, THE VISIT AUSTIN CALENDAR EVENTS.
UH, BUT ANYTIME THEY'RE POSTING SAY TO 2 5 1 2 OR THE AUSTIN CHRONICLE OR ANY, OR THE STATESMAN, UM, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE THAT MARKETING, YOU KNOW, STATEMENT ABOUT FUNDED BY THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO SEARCH THAT IF IT'S ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL OVER THE DIFFERENT DATABASES.
SO INSTEAD OF CREATING A NEW PORTAL, ISN'T IT, UH, WOULDN'T, OR, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE LOOKED INTO THIS, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE EASIER TO, UM, TO INTEGRATE SOMETHING WITH WHAT ALREADY EXISTS, UH, WITH VISIT AUSTIN, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A, A PORTAL? WE DO.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE VISIT AUSTIN, UH, YOU KNOW, IS EVENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE VISITING AUSTIN CAN SEARCH AND GO TO, IT DOESN'T COVER ALL KINDS OF PROJECTS, AND THEY ARE WORKING ON A WAY TO ADD, LIKE ANOTHER MODIFIER THAT, YOU KNOW, FUNDED BY THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE PROMOTING DIRECTLY OUT, THAT IS NOT THE BIGGEST PRIORITY.
YOU KNOW, IT IS A PRIORITY, YES, BUT IT'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGE AND CODING AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WHEN THEIR MAIN GOAL AND THE PURPOSE OF WHAT THEY DO IS TO PROMOTE AUSTIN AND PROMOTE EVENTS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE VISITING.
SO IT'S JUST A, A CONVERSATION THAT IS TO BE CONTINUED.
UH, WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE WITH A DATA PORTAL IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR APPLICANT POOL.
WE HAVE, HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
THEY PUT THEIR INFORMATION INTO THAT DATABASE, SO IT'S JUST A WAY FOR COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY HAVE A RESOURCE IN ORDER TO GO LOOK AT WHAT PROJECTS WERE FUNDED.
BUT, UH, LOOKING AT A REALLY GREAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC FACING, SEARCHABLE DATABASE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WERE EXPECTING FROM LIKE THE DO 5 1 2 OR AN AUSTIN CHRONICLE, THAT IS A LOT OF INVESTMENT, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT.
UH, AND SO WE, OUR HOPE IS THAT THE MUSICIANS ARE, AND THE PROMOTERS, UM, WILL BE SUBMITTING ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS
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AND PUTTING IN THE APPROPRIATE MARKETING MARKS LIKE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.I'M DEFINITELY NOT, UH, RECOMMENDING REINVENTING THE WHEEL AND LIKE BUILDING A BRAND NEW PORTAL IF THERE ARE OTHER MARKETING PORTALS ALREADY, INCLUDING THE ONE AT VISIT AUSTIN.
UM, I JUST, UH, MY IDEA WAS IF, IF IT'S, UH, ALREADY A, A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE MARKETING PORTAL, UH, WOULD, WOULDN'T IT BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION IN THERE? UM, BUT FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE OFFERING GRANTS, UH, THROUGH THE CITY, UH, IT IS DEFINITELY VALUABLE INFORMATION EVEN ON A CITY PORTAL TO HAVE, UH, AS TO WHO GOT FUNDED, IT'D GREAT AND WHAT'S BEING DONE.
WE NEED TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION SOMEHOW THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF ALL OF THAT FOR THE, FOR TRANS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, OBVIOUSLY.
AND IT'S ALSO VERY HELPFUL, AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL, YOU KNOW, HEAD OVER TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN DATA PORTAL
IT'S A, IT'S A VERY USEFUL TOOL, UH, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME JUST ALL OF OUR AWARDEES GETTING USED TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO DO THAT REBRAND TO THE AWESOME LIVE MUSIC FUND, YOU KNOW, MUCH EASIER TO REMEMBER TO ADD TO HASHTAG.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE, TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER.
IT FITS WITHIN MARKETING BEST PRACTICES AS WELL.
I, I HAVE, WELL, I, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, UH, UH, ERICA, IS IT, UH, UM, THE, SORRY, HOLD ON.
THE, UM, LIVE PERFORMANCES, LIKE THE STREET LIVE PERFORMANCES AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT IS, IS THAT PROGRAM LIVE ALSO YET, OR IS IT STILL ONGOING, UH, FOR, UH, OUR OTHER PROGRAMS, LIKE OUR STREET PERFORMANCE THAT MM-HMM.
SO THOSE ARE OUR PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE'RE GONNA REBRAND THAT STREET PERFORMANCE NAME BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.
WHATEVER YOU, WHENEVER YOU SEE PERFORMANCES, SAY ON SECOND STREET IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TRAMMELL CROW, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN TALKS AGAIN TO RELAUNCH THAT AGAIN FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.
UH, ALSO THE, UM, PERFORMANCES AT THE OLD BAKERY EMPORIUM ON SOUTH CONGRESS, THAT IS ANOTHER LOCATION.
THESE ARE OUR PARTNERED LOCATIONS WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, THEN BRUSH SQUARE WE'RE ADDING, THEY'RE JUST DOING SOME LAST, YOU KNOW, BIT OF ELECTRICITY CAPACITY THERE.
AND SO WE'LL BE ACTUALLY PROGRAMMING THAT SPACE A LOT IN COORDINATION WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WITH A LOT OF MONEY AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO PROGRAM THAT, NOT JUST FROM US, BUT LOOKING AT OTHER, UH, BUDGETS AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE STREET PERFORMANCE IS A CLUNKY NAME.
WE DON'T THINK IT ENCAPSULATES EVERYTHING.
SO SHELBY'S BEEN THINKING ON A WAY TO REBRAND ALL OF THAT THAT WE DO, WHICH IS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE PERFORMANCES OF MUSICIANS THAT ARE HIRED THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH OUR PROCESS, OUR PERFORMANCE OPPORTUNITY PROCESS, UM, AND COMING UP WITH A BETTER NAME FOR THAT.
'CAUSE STREET PERFORMANCE SOUNDS, IT DOESN'T REALLY EXPLAIN IT.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT LIVE YET, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, OR, OR IS YEAH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS.
UH, GREG HAS JUST BOOKED SOMETHING OVER AT THE OLD BAKERY IN IMPORTANT FOR A, UH, GALLERY, YOU KNOW, A GALLERY SHOW.
SO WE'LL WORK WITH THEM EVERY TIME THERE'S A SHOW, A NEW EXHIBITION THERE.
UM, WE'RE, THE BRUSH SQUARE IS GONNA BE THE BIG ONE WHERE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PROGRAM.
AND THEY, THEY'VE DONE SOME BEAUTIFUL WORK IN RESTORING THE BRUSH SQUARE.
YOU SHOULD CHECK IT OUT, UH, WITH A STAGE AND SOME BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT LOOKS GREAT.
AND SO WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THOSE FINAL ELEMENTS OF CAPACITY SO THAT WE CAN START PROGRAMMING PRETTY REGULARLY.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.
[11. Discussion and possible action on recommendation for Austin Record Convention subsidies from the City of Austin.]
UM, UM, ITEM TODAY IS UNDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RECOMMENDATION FOR AUSTIN RECORD CONVENTION SUBSIDIES FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN.SO, UH, STAFF HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THIS.
UH, THIS WAS, UM, AN ITEM THAT WAS BEING PURSUED BY, UM, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL, WHO'S NOT ATTENDING TODAY.
YEAH, WE STILL HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.
UM, WE CAN MAYBE FOLLOW UP AND SEE IF WE CAN GET, UM, ANOTHER TIME, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD COMMUNICATION AND WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE TALKING AS A TEAM AT THE CITY ABOUT THESE TYPE OF, LIKE ONE-OFF, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS FOR, FOR SUPPORT, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WISH WE HAD THE FUNDS TO COVER ALL OF THESE AMAZING PROJECTS AND THESE AMAZING, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN BUSINESSES AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
UH, BUT WE NEED TO BE SURE WE'RE DOING IT
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EQUITABLY AND WITH, AND GOOD ACCESSIBILITY AND, AND IF THERE'S EVEN A BUDGET THERE.SO I, WE, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE THE MEANS OR ANY KIND OF PROCESS TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THESE, THESE REQUESTS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT THIS, THESE ARE REQUESTS BEING MADE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, NOT ONLY TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO WAYS THAT IS, IS THERE A WAY TO OPERATIONALIZE YEAH.
UH, MEETING THOSE REQUESTS? UH, SO TO BE CONTINUED, IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT'S ONGOING AND, UH, TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO.
BUT OF COURSE, UH, BUDGET, YOU KNOW, HAVING FUNDS THERE IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT FOR THESE ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THESE EVENTS AND THESE, THESE PROJECTS.
UH, SO WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE KIND OF TABLE THIS ITEM FOR NOW BECAUSE WE, I MEAN, WE'VE BROUGHT THIS BACK A FEW TIMES, UM, AND, UM, EITHER HERE BACK FROM STAFF ON, ON, YOU KNOW, SOME PROGRESS AROUND, UH, OPERATIONALIZING, LIKE YOU SAID, THESE KIND OF REQUESTS OR, UH, IF COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL COMES BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, REQUESTS AROUND THIS ITEM, WE'LL ADD IT BACK.
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
AGENDA ITEMS, COMMISSIONERS.WE HAVE, UM, GIMME A MOMENT HERE.
WE'LL HAVE, UM, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS UPDATE BY KIM, UH, THE, POTENTIALLY AN UPDATE FROM THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND WORKING GROUP UPDATE ON CONSULTANT EVALUATION OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PROGRAM.
UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, WE WILL, UH, LET'S RETAIN THE DISCUSSION ON MUSICAL PERFORMANCES JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ARE, WE ARE, UH, MAKING PROGRESS THERE.
UH, DISCUSSION ON ALL AGES SHOWS DISCUSSION ON MUSICAL MUSIC JOURNALISM, DISCUSSION ON MUSIC COMMISSION BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT, UH, THAT LAST ONE NEEDS TO FALL UNDER ACTION, POSSIBLE ACTIONS, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTIONS, YES.
ON BUDGET, UM, AND DISCUSSION ON CALENDAR OF, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND BODY EVENTS.
WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE IN CASE THERE IS AN UPDATE.
UM, AND, UM, WHAT ELSE? SO THE ONLY ITEM THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW UNDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS IS THE BUDGET ITEM.
SO ANYTHING ELSE I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT GROUP OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I, UH, HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM I'D LIKE TO ADD.
UH, SO THE, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE FOLLOW UP WITH THE, UH, RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED CONCERNING THE FAIR PAY AND SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SEND TO COUNCIL.
UM, I HAVE NOT, UH, HEARD FROM, UH, MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UM, WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND, UM, APPARENTLY, UH, THERE'S, UH, SOME CHATTER THAT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST HAS NOT RESPONDED TO, UM, TALKS WITH THE UNION.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADD ON THE DISCUSSION SIDE OF THINGS.
UM, FAIR PAY FOR SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST FOLLOW UP, UM, WITH THE, UH, BASICALLY DIS DISCUSSION ABOUT FAIR PAY AND SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.
AND THIS WOULD BE A FOLLOW UP WITH THE AUSTIN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS LOCAL, UH, 33.
UM, SO WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO THEM TO COME AND, UH, SPEAK AT, AT THE COMMISSION NEXT, NEXT MONTH.
UM, NOT SOMEONE AT THE, UH, MUSIC OFFICE, UH, OR ARE Y'ALL DOING THAT PROGRAM AGAIN WITH, UH, AUSTIN BANDS GETTING PAID ON SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST FOR CERTAIN PROGRAM? UM, SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA? UH, HOW, HOW SHOULD WE HANDLE THIS? I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF SOMEONE COULD ANSWER THAT OR NOT, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN ADD IT IF YOU WANT.
UM, WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
WE ARE AGAIN, SUPPORTING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY SHOWCASE, UH, OFFICIAL ARTISTS THAT ARE LOCAL, UH, AS WE HAVE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND MAYBE HOLDING OFF ON ASKING SOUTH BY TO COME TO OUR MARCH MEETING.
THEY MAY JUST MAY BE TOO MUCH, UH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON FOR ADVANCING THE FESTIVAL.
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WE CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S BEING CONFIRMED AND WHERE TO GO FIND THE INFORMATION ON THE SHOWCASES AS, 'CAUSE THEY CONFIRM ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE MUSIC FESTIVAL STARTS, WHICH IS AROUND THE FIF 15TH OR 16TH.AND SO I DON'T WANNA GIVE YOU AN INCOMPLETE PICTURE.
UH, I WOULD RATHER, YOU KNOW, TELL YOU WHERE TO GO FIND THE INFORMATION, TELL YOU WHAT'S CONFIRMED ALREADY, AND THEN, UH, WE CAN WORK WITH SOUTH BY ON A REPORT, UH, AFTER THE FACT ON THAT PROGRAM.
UH, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM YOUR ITEM OF WANTING TO TALK TO SOUTH BY ABOUT OTHER ISSUES.
BUT, UH, AS RELATED TO OUR SOUTH BY PROGRAM.
GOT, IS IT, IS IT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST THAT REACHES OUT TO Y'ALL ABOUT THE SHOWCASES OR, MM-HMM.
YEAH, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM.
SO, UM, IT'S UP TO THE PROMOTERS AGAIN TO WORK WITH SOUTH BY ON CONFIRMING THOSE SHOWCASES.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D RECOMMEND IF THERE'S ANY PROMOTERS OUT THERE DOING THAT.
UH, UH, SO, SO JUST, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY, IT'S BEEN, I THINK IT'S BEEN ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS AND THERE'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO CHATTER AT ALL WITH THIS.
AND, UM, I'M SORRY, BUT I, UM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN COME OR NOT, BUT I'M, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE CAN GET A SECOND, I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE HERE.
MAYBE THE UNION WILL SHOW UP AND WE CAN TALK WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
I THINK, UM, UM, UNLESS, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, UM, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY SPECIFIC OBJECTIONS TO HAVING THE AGENDA ITEM ON, UH, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THE, THE ENTIRE LIST THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED COLLECTIVELY.
AND, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIFIC CON CONCERNS, LET'S ADDRESS IT FROM THERE.
UH, BUT, UH, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE MOTIONS TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? ANY SECOND? SECOND, ALL OF THE ABOVE AGENDA ITEMS, INCLUDING, UH, SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST FAIR PAY? UM, THE, JUST JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN WHAT SHELBY WAS SUGGESTING.
WHAT ERICA WAS SUGGESTING WAS KEEPING, UM, CHAIR MELA, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND CAN'T MOTION HIS OWN, LIKE MOTION, OH, SECOND HIS OWN MOTION.
SORRY, WERE YOU TRYING TO JUST THE, JUST AGENDA ITEMS. ALL OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, SO, OH, YEAH.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR ME.
UM, THAT, UH, SORRY, Y'ALL, I'M IN A DIFFERENT TIME ZONE.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY LATE FOR COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, BUT YES.
SO I'LL RESTATE MY MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THESE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. YEAH.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
YEAH, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CASADA.
MOTION TO ADJOURN? YEAH, I MOTION TO ADJOURN.
UH, I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE.
OH, I HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.
OH, WE DON'T TO END THE MEETING.
THANKS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE FOR BEING HERE.