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[00:00:04]

OF COURSE, I'LL START OVER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.

HI, I'M SUSAN SUMMERS, UM, I'M CHAIR OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

I'M GONNA CALL THE MEET REGULAR MEETING OF OUR COMMISSION TO ORDER.

IT'S, UH, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024.

UH, CURRENT TIME 5:08 PM.

UM, WITH THAT, THE

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA EVERY MONTH IS, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

UM, SO WE DO ALLOW FOR THE FIRST 10 SPEAKERS WHO ARE SIGNED UP, UM, PRIOR TO THE MEETING, UH, WILL BE ALLOWED A THREE MINUTE ALLOTMENT TO ADDRESS CONCERNS ON ITEMS NOT RELATED TO THE AGENDA.

I DO HAVE A LIST OF, UM, I BELIEVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HERE TODAY.

LOOKS LIKE ALL OF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT THINGS ON THE, UM, ON THE AGENDA.

SO I'LL JUST WORK DOWN MY LIST WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THE FIRST ONE THAT I HAVE IS, UH, RYAN SAUNDERS.

YEAH, PLEASE COME RIGHT UP.

YOU CAN JUST GRAB ONE OF THESE MICS.

MAKE SURE YOU CLICK THE GREEN, CLICK THE BUTTON GREEN BEFORE YOU START.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, YOU JUST TAKE, I THINK, EASIEST USUALLY IF YOU SIT OKAY.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU NATALIE, FOR HELPING ME.

AND HELLO, COMMISSION.

UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK BECAUSE I WANT TO DISCUSS SOME ISSUES WITH PARKING AND THE HOLLY NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I LIVE AT 96TH LYNN STREET ON THE BLOCK BETWEEN EAST CHAVEZ AND WILLOW.

AND, UM, I'VE LIVED THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS.

BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR SIX YEARS, PREDOMINANTLY ALL IN EAST AUSTIN, AND THERE'S FOUR BARS IN DIRECT, UM, PROXIMITY OF MY HOUSE AND THE BARN ACROSS THE STREET IS REGULARLY, UM, TRIED TO GET RID OF THE RESIDENTIAL PERMIT, PARKING ONLY IN THE AREA, AND HE'S LED ME TO BELIEVE THAT HE'S IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DISTRICT THREE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, MR. VELAZQUEZ.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE HERE TO, UM, DRAW SOME LIGHT TO THE ISSUE.

A FEW REASONS WHY I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS, UH, MY HOUSE IS A DUPLEX.

IT'S A HUNDRED YEAR OLD HOUSE.

AND, UH, I PURCHASED IT FROM TWO OUT OF TOWN OWNERS THAT HAVE LET THE HOUSE GO TO PRETTY BIG DISREPAIR.

AND, UH, THE HOUSE COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN TORN DOWN IN A MODERN HOME BUILT IN ITS PLACE.

BUT I INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE HOUSE AND LEFT THE ENTIRE FACADE, UM, AS IT ORIGINALLY WAS JUST IN AN UPGRADED FASHION.

AND I'VE, UH, WORKED WITH OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO OFFER OTHER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY, UM, CONTRIBUTE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN TAKE AWAY FROM IT.

AND THE REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE BAR OWNER NOW HAS LEASED THE LOT FRONTING EAST CESAR CHAVEZ, UM, FROM THE ORIGINAL LAND OWNER, AND HE'S PLANNING TO PUT A FOOD TRUCK PARK THERE.

SO THAT'LL ADD ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONGESTION, UM, ISSUES.

AND JUST A ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN REMOVING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, WHICH I'M IN SUPPORT OF, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, WOULD BE A BAD PRECEDENT TO SET TO ALLOW A BAR OWNER TO INITIATE, UM, GETTING RID OF A PARKING RESTRICTION, WHICH IS THERE TO PROTECT US AS RESIDENTS, UM, FROM THEM.

AND ALSO BECAUSE MY HOME'S A DUPLEX.

IF I LOSE THIS RESIDENTIAL PERMIT, PARKING MY APARTMENT AND THE HOME, WHICH, UH, DUPLEXES, UH, QUADPLEXES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE REALLY, UM, CRITICAL TO HELP KEEP, UM, HOME PRICES DOWN.

SO I FEEL LIKE I'M SETTING A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY MAINTAINING THAT AND, UM, IT WOULD REALLY HURT MY INVESTMENT AND THE PROPERTY VALUE.

AND THEN JUST ANOTHER POINT IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

THEIR CUSTOMERS HAVE LOTS OF OPTIONS ON HOW TO GET TO THE BUSINESS.

THEY CAN RIDE A BIKE, THEY CAN TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AN UBER, BUT IN YOUR HOUSE YOU HAVE NO OTHER SOLUTION.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T HANG YOUR CAR FROM A TREE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PARKING SPOT.

UM, AND THEN I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OF STORIES THAT IT WILL KIND OF FURTHER, UM, SOLIDIFY JUST THE REASON WHY I FELT LIKE THERE SHOULD BE MORE, UM, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE AREA.

SO RECENTLY I HAD A CAR COMPLETELY BLOCKED IN MY DRIVEWAY.

UM, I CALLED 3 1 1.

UM, AND THEY SAID THAT BECAUSE, UM, YOUR PROPERTIES, UH, BLOCKED FROM EMERGENCY VEHICLES, HAVE YOU HAD A SITUATION, THEN YOU NEED TO CALL 9 1 1.

IT'S AN EMERGENCY.

THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THE CAR REMOVED.

SO I CALLED 9 1 1.

UM, IT TOOK ABOUT 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, THE WHOLE SITUATION TO KIND OF UN UNFOLD, THE POLICE OFFICER CAME AND HE WAS NOT GONNA CALL THE TOW TRUCK.

HE WANTED TO LOOK UP THE DRIVER'S, UH, TAG NUMBER AND TRY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE DRIVER.

BUT YEAH, ANYWAY, THE CAR DIDN'T GET TOWED.

AND THERE'S BEEN OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH DRUNK DRIVERS.

I TRIED TO TAKE A GUY'S KEYS AND GIVE IT TO THE BAR OWNER.

AND, UM, THAT'S SOME OF THE SITUATIONS WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

YEAH.

SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO YOU, AND, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF THIS.

I, YOU KNOW, UM, I HEAR ABOUT A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, BUT NOT EVERYTHING.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY DISCUSSION OF LIKE A THANK YOU.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY DISCUSSION

[00:05:01]

OF LIKE A, A PARKING TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN DISCUSSION FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING THAT YOU OR YOUR NEIGHBORS HAVE LOOKED, HAVE TALKED ABOUT AT ALL? SO THE, IT ALREADY IS A RESIDENTIAL PERMITT PARKING ONLY.

AND THE, MY, UH, GOOD FRIEND AND MY NEIGHBOR TOLD ME THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE BLOCK FOUGHT REALLY HARD FOR THAT LIKE OVER 10 YEARS AGO.

AND SO THE BAR OWNER IS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO REMOVE THAT RESTRICTION.

YEAH.

SO, SO WHAT A PARKING TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT DISTRICT DOES IS IT ACTUALLY IS, IS A, UM, A TARGETED SET OF SOLUTIONS THAT CAN, UM, IT'S NOT JUST, IT CAN INCLUDE RPP, IT COULD INCLUDE METERED PARKING, IT COULD INCLUDE, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARKING ENFORCEMENT OR DIFFERENT OTHER TYPES OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT COME INTO PLAY.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION.

UM, WE SEE THOSE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, WEST CAMPUS AND, UM, ALSO, UH, MORE RECENTLY IN THE SOUTH CONGRESS AREA WAS JUST PASSED.

SO THAT, THAT COULD BE, UM, I'M JUST LEARNING ABOUT YOUR ISSUE.

BUT LIKE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR YOU NEIGHBORS AND HOLLY AND CESAR CHAVEZ TO EXPLORE.

BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THAT, YOU GET SOME METERED PARKING AND THAT BRINGS SOME MONEY IN.

AND THEN YOU GET TO THINK ABOUT SOLUTIONS AND BENEFITS THAT YOUR COMMUNITY COULD ALSO RECEIVE FOR THAT.

SO THAT MIGHT BE, UM, A WAY TO ALSO THINK ABOUT SOLVING YOUR SOLUTION.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS.

UH, SPENCER? I SAW SPENCER FIRST.

YEAH.

UM, THIS ISN'T A QUESTION MORE JUST, UH, A THOUGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO YOU OR NOT.

UM, TPW IS STARTING TO ROLL OUT, UH, A NEW SOLUTION CALLED HYBRID PARKING, WHICH IS WHERE YOU HAVE METERED PARKING, BUT YOU AS A RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PROGRAM PARTICIPANT DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

UM, I COULD SEE THAT AS PERHAPS, 'CAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR REMOVING AND RPP, BUT I COULD SEE THAT BEING MOVED OVER FROM REGULAR RPP TO HYBRID AS BEING A SOLUTION THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT.

UM, WHAT I'LL, I WILL SAY IS I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T TO REACH OUT TO THE TPW, UM, PARKING ENTERPRISE GROUP.

'CAUSE THEY ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE.

YEAH, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

I THINK MORE THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE, UM, OVERSIGHT TO WHERE THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT WOULD BE IN THE AREA MORE OFTEN, WHICH I THINK IS NEEDED.

YEAH.

AND IT WOULD BE A, A PARKING TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AS WELL, WHICH MEANS YOUR COMMUNITY WOULD GET TO REINVEST THOSE DOLLARS THAT COME FROM THE METERS BACK INTO LOCAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT WILL BEAUTIFICATION ANYTHING YOU WANT.

OKAY.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY.

I ADD YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

I WAS GONNA GO AHEAD AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE CONTACTS WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO TALK TO OUR PARKING MANAGEMENT FOLKS.

SOMETIMES IT'S TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON COULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

BUT, UM, I HAVE MY EMAIL ADDRESS I CAN GIVE TO YOU AND YOU CAN, UM, DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO ME AND THEN I'LL GET YOU TO THE RIGHT FOLKS.

AWESOME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M GONNA NOW CALL ON, UH, DIANA TER, UM, IS SPEAKING ON ZILKER PARKING.

ARE ARE YOU? YES, THERE WE GO.

UH, YOU HAVE SOME, YOU HAVE VISUALS, I THINK.

YES.

YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

GREETINGS AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

UM, I'M DIANA PROCTOR.

PLEASE CONSIDER REVIEWING THE CURRENT JANUARY 22ND PAR RECOMMENDATION, ASKING FOR THE TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO BE THE LEAD ON TRANSIT SOLUTIONS FOR ZILKER PARKS STARTING IN SUMMER OF 2024.

YOUR DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF A SOLUTION TO REDUCE CONGESTION ON PUBLIC ROADS.

THIS MEANS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT NEEDS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PREVENT CARS FROM QUEUING ON PUBLIC ROADS AS THEY TRY TO ACCESS THE WATER ZONE OF ZILKER PARK.

DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES WILL BE ESSENTIAL.

I'D LIKE TO REVIEW SOME OF THE PAST PROPOSALS FOR A ZILKER PARK SHUTTLE SERVICE.

MY POINT IS, ALL PREVIOUS EFFORTS AT DESIGN AND EXECUTION OF SHUTTLES WERE POOR.

A PROFESSIONAL INTERVENTION IS NEEDED BY YOUR DEPARTMENT AND CAP METRO NEXT.

OH NO, IT'S THE FIRST IMAGE.

PLEASE GO BACK.

ONE.

THIS SCREENSHOT SHOWS TYPICAL SUMMER PEAK DAY TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.

THE CURRENT PARD DESIGNED SUMMER SHUTTLE SERVICE ACTUALLY WORSENS CONGESTION IN THIS ZONE AS IT TURNS LEFT TO ENTER THE POOL.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE ZUCKER PARK VISION PLAN PROPOSED THIS INTERNAL SHUTTLE FOR THE PARK.

IT REQUIRED A NEW ROAD TO BE BUILT ALONG MOPAC AND TWO PARKING GARAGES WITH CAPACITY OF OVER 2000 CARS DESIGNED WITHOUT CONSIDERATION FOR ROADWAY CONGESTION.

AND THE

[00:10:01]

FACT THAT SCHOOL BUSES ON FIELD TRIPS TO THE NATURE CENTER CANNOT PARK INSIDE A PARKING GARAGE WITHOUT THE GARAGES.

THIS DESIGN IS IRRELEVANT.

NEXT, THIS IS THE ZILKER PARK NATION PLANT'S PROPOSED EXTERNAL SHUTTLE.

IT CREATES CONGESTION DOWNTOWN WHILE IGNORING THE FACT THAT MANY VISITORS ARRIVE FROM THE WEST MOPAC SIDE OF THE PARK.

NEXT, THE CIRCLE SHOWS PARTS CURRENT SUMMER SHUTTLE ROUTE.

IT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT PARTS SHUTTLE BUSES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE CONVENIENTLY LOCATED AND SHADED ZUCKER PARK CAT METRO BUS STOPS A BUS STOP THAT ALSO CONNECTS VISITORS TO A MULTIMODAL BIKE SHARE STATION.

NEXT TO EXPLAIN THE PARD DESIGN SHUTTLE SERVICE, THESE TWO BUSES ARE OPERATED ON THE HOUR.

ONE DRIVER HEADS OUT AT 10:00 AM AND THAT SAME DRIVER'S NEXT DEPARTURE WILL NOT BE UNTIL NOON.

THE TWO BUSES CAN OFTEN BE SEEN SITTING EMPTY AND USELESS SIDE BY SIDE AT THE REMOTE PARKING GARAGE.

PHOTO IS SATURDAY MORNING, 10:37 AM THEY DID NOT CIRCULATE.

IT IS A DYSFUNCTIONAL DESIGN.

LAST SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS CAT METRO ROUTE.

TH 32 BUS STOPS NEAR THE POOL, EAST AND WEST ENTRANCES.

IT REDUCES CONGESTION ON BARTON SPRINGS ROAD IN 2019.

IT RAN EVERY 15 MINUTES ON PEAK DAYS AND WAS ADVERTISED ON THE CAT METRO WEBSITE.

I HOPE YOU AGREE THAT TRANSPORTATION OF PUBLIC WORKS AND CAP METRO NEED TO TAKE THE LEAD ON SOLUTIONS FOR ACCESS TO ZILKER PARK IN 2024 AND THE NEED FOR LONG-TERM STUDIES FOR FUTURE ADAPTATIONS AND STRATEGIES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UM, JUST TO OFFER A COMMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, WE, WE HEARD OF COURSE, IN THE MAS MASTER PLANNING PROCESS FOR ZILKER THAT SORT OF, I GUESS FAILED.

I, I GUESS IS FAIR TO SAY OR DIDN'T PASS.

I, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HEARD A LOT OF, UH, INPUT AND, UH, SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE PLANNING AND, AND THE VISIONING THERE.

UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL BE VERY EAGER TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION AS WE SORT OF REIGNITE THAT PROCESS, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

CAN I ON THAT? SURE.

I DID A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST OF THE ZILKER PARK VISION PLANNERS TO ASK IF THEY DID A TRANSPORTATION STUDY.

THEY HIRED THE CONSULTANT NELSON NYGARD, BUT ALL THEY PUT IN THE PLAN WERE CRASH DATA.

AND THEY DID NOT DO A, THEY DID NOT DO A TRANSPORTATION STUDY.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

YEAH.

CAN I JUST ADD SOMETHING? SURE.

UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH PART ON A TRANSPORTATION PLAN OUT THERE, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN BRING BACK TO THE ATION.

YEAH, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN.

I'M GONNA NOTE THAT, BUT I THINK DURING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT.

I'M GONNA PUT THAT ON THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I THINK WE BELIEVE WE DO NOT HAVE THE THIRD SPEAKER HERE, NATALIE, WAS THAT WHAT YOU OR THEY ARE HERE? SO, UH, THE THIRD HAND, THE RECORDER, THE FOURTH IS HERE.

SANTIAGO IS HERE TO SPEAK TO US TODAY.

THANK YOU.

GREETINGS, COMMISSIONERS.

UH, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO HERE.

UM, SHOWING UP.

I FEEL A LITTLE NERVOUS, UM, APPREHENSIVE.

I'M NOT GONNA BE QUITE AS ELEGANT AND PRESENTING.

UM, I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF, UH, RESEARCH LATELY ON TXDOT AND IN PARTICULAR THE BRIDGE, UH, DEMOLITION THAT IS PROPOSED, UH, OVER TOP OF, UH, THE COLORADO RIVER.

UM, AND SO THE QUESTION THAT IS SORT OF IN MY SCRIBBLINGS HERE IS, UH, I'M CURIOUS WHAT REASONABLE AND FEASIBLE ALTERNATIVES WERE EXAMINED WITH REGARDS TO THE DEMOLITION OF THIS BRIDGE.

UM, AND IN PARTICULAR, UH, I'LL KIND OF REWIND AND GO SOME HISTORICAL EVIDENCE OF FOUND IN 1954 EAST AVENUE, UH, PLOWED ITS WAY THROUGH THE WETLANDS.

UM, I'VE BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN THESE LIKE RIVER RESTORATIONS.

UH, SO LIKE, WHAT IS THE COLORADO RIVER AND, UH, WHAT'S IT ITS FUTURE LOOK LIKE? UM, AND, UH, THERE WAS THIS COMPANY CALLED CAPITAL AGGREGATE THAT IN THE FIFTIES DURING THE DROUGHT, THEY MADE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY TO DREDGE THE RIVER OVER THE NEXT 12 YEARS, UM, DOWN TO A DEPTH OF 18 FEET.

UM, AND THEN IN 80.

AND SO, UH, THERE WAS A, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN OF A 200 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, AND IT CURRENTLY, IT'S NEARLY 350 FEET RIGHT OF WAY.

AND 82 2 ADDITIONAL BRIDGES WERE BUILT OVER I OVER TOWN LAKE.

UM, I WENT TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, OR NOT RECENTLY.

AND ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WAS THERE WAS THIS, UH, LOW CARBON CONCRETE.

UM, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS A CARBON REDUCTION FUND FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

UM, AND IN PARTICULAR,

[00:15:01]

WHAT WAS IT GONNA TAKE TO UPDATE THE PLANTS FOR MANUFACTURING LOCALLY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND AN INVESTMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, SUCH AS THIS SCALE? UM, I BELIEVE THE PROJECT FROM, UH, BEN WHITE TO HOLLY, UH, CROSSING THE RIVER, INCLUDING THE BRIDGE IS $400 MILLION.

UM, THERE'S A US ARMY CORPS ENGINEERS NATIONWIDE PERMIT 14, UM, DISCUSSES LIKE A ONE 10TH OF AN ACRE DREDGE AND FILL LIMIT, UM, IN THE, IN THE COLORADO.

UH, AND IT SEEMS TO BE NITPICKY IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THIS AND WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY DISTURBING MORE THAN THAT.

UM, AND SO JUST, I'M LOOKING AT LIKE, OVERSIGHT AND LIKE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE CONTROLS THAT THIS, UH, BODY HAS.

UM, FOR ENHANCEMENT IN MITIGATIONS.

UM, I'VE BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN SPONGE CITIES, UH, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES AND HEARING THE PRESENTATION THE OTHER DAY, LOOKING AT LATENT DEMAND.

UH, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT LIKE JD ABRAMS AND, UH, ALLEGATIONS OF BID RIGGING, BID RIGGING IN THE PAST, AND NOT REALLY SURE WHO'S CAPABLE OF DOING SIMILAR PROJECTS LIKE THIS SCALE.

UM, TEXT IS HAVING A GRANT WRITER AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

I'VE BEEN, UH, UH, ACTING AS A, UH, LISTED CONSULTING PARTY OR WITHIN A CONSULTING PARTY.

UM, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW, UM, WHERE, WHERE I CAN PLUG IN INTO THIS BODY AND WITHIN THE CITY TO HAVE BETTER VISIONS FOR, UM, RESPONSIBLE INNOVATIVE DESIGN.

JUST FOR CLARIFYING QUESTION, THIS IS SORT OF CONNECTED TO THE I 35 PROPOSALS.

WHAT YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BRIDGES AND THE, AND THE RIVER, THAT'S PART OF THAT, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

YES.

WHO WANTS TO TACKLE THAT? .

THANK YOU.

FIGURING OUT HOW TO GA ENGAGE WITH THE I 35 PROCESS IN A, IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY IS A CHALLENGE THAT FACES ALL OF US .

UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, HAVE ANYTHING TO, TO OFFER THERE.

UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, THERE'S A DIDN'T GET ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH.

WE, WE HAVE HAD, UM, THIS BODY HAS HAD A SERIES OF PRETTY VOCIFEROUS RESO RESOLUTIONS ABOUT THE I 35 PROCESS.

UM, ACTUALLY A LOT OF THESE WERE PASSED BEFORE.

WE HAD A LOT OF OUR NEW MEMBERS ON BOARD.

UM, IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO EMAIL ME AT MY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS EMAIL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE THREE OR FOUR RESOLUTIONS WITH YOU.

I THINK THEY'RE VERY, UM, THEY'RE VERY STRONGLY WORDED.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE EFFECTIVE IN THE PROCESS COULD BE DEBATED.

UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT GOING ON WITH CITIZEN ACTIVISM AND VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT.

UM, I DO THINK IT, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY WANNA THINK ABOUT.

UM, I DO SEE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ON OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS UPCOMING, WE HAVE, UH, I 35 IS GONNA BE ON THERE, UH, FOR A FUTURE MEETING.

SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING ANOTHER ROUND OF THAT PRETTY SOON.

UM, AND WE MIGHT GET A SENSE LATER IN THE MEETING OF MAYBE EVEN WHICH MONTH.

SO, UM, YEAH.

UM, PLEASE, PLEASE STAY CONNECTED WITH US AND, YOU KNOW, WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ADVOCATING, I THINK THERE'S STRENGTH IN NUMBERS.

THAT WOULD BE MY ADVICE.

SO, YEAH.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I POINT OUT THAT THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IS THE ONE, HAS THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY OF RE TECH STOCK PROJECTS AND NOBODY SEEMS TO ATTEND THEIR MEETINGS.

AUDIO LEARNED ABOUT IT RECENTLY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE ANY, UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, SPEAKERS ON PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.

SO THAT'S GONNA

[1. Approve the minutes of the Urban Transportation Commission REGULAR MEETING on December 5, 2023. ]

TAKE US TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES.

SO THAT IS OF OUR DECEMBER MINUTES.

WE DID NOT MEET IN JANUARY.

UM, SO, UM, THOSE MEETINGS ARE IN YOUR PACKET OR THEY WERE CIRCULATED BEFOREHAND.

UH, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REFLECT ON THOSE? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? UH, I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

OKAY.

UH, MOTION BY SPENT.

UH, COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER.

I'LL SECOND, SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES ONE DISCUSSION POINT? 'CAUSE UH, WE WERE EMAILING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS.

WE DID APPOINT YOU AS THE ALTERNATE MEMBER FOR JOINT SUSTAINABILITY, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION.

IS THAT ON HERE? YES.

OKAY.

YES.

? YES, I AM.

SO, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, I'M, I'M YOUR ALTERNATE.

SO, UM, ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

ALL APPROVE, UH, APPROVING THE MINUTES.

LOOKS LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, CAN YOU SAY AYE OR RAISE PUT YES.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S

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GONNA TAKE US NOW TO, UM, OUR, UH, DIS DISCUSSION ITEMS. UM, WE ACTUALLY, UM, ARE GOING TO GO A BIT OUT OF ORDER HERE, UM, TO TRY TO GET SOME OF OUR FOLKS WHO ARE, UM, SO KINDLY COMING OUT TO PRESENT TO US, UH, THROUGH SOONER.

SO WE'RE GONNA, ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA SKIP ITEM TWO BECAUSE JIM IS GONNA BE OUR PRESENTER AND HE'S STUCK WITH US ANYWAY, SO, UM, .

SO, UM, WE'RE

[3. Update on the Austin Light Rail project ]

GONNA TAKE UP, UH, ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE UPDATE ON THE AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL PROJECT FIRST, IF YOU ARE READY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

UH, WE'LL START BY INTRODUCING OURSELVES.

WE'RE ALL FROM AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP.

UH, I'M JENNIFER PINE.

I'M OVER PLANNING COMMUNITY, UH, AND FEDERAL PROGRAMS. HELLO.

I AM LINDSEY WOOD WITH AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION.

AND I'M JOCELYN VOS WITH PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT FOR AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, SO I'LL START WITH JUST SORT OF AN OVERVIEW ON THE MAIN WORK STREAMS RELATED TO AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL RIGHT NOW.

UM, LET'S, UH, KIND OF GO BACK FOR A MINUTE TO JUNE, 2023.

THAT WAS A BIG MOMENT FOR US AT THAT TIME.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE A TP BOARD AND THE CAP METRO BOARD ALL APPROVED THE LIGHT RAIL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, WHICH, UM, DEFINED THE INITIAL PHASE FOR LIGHT RAIL THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

AND SO SINCE THAT TIME, UH, WE'VE BEEN ADVANCING THE DESIGN WORK, UM, PARTICULARLY TO SUPPORT THE NEPA ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS AND THE STUDIES THAT WE ARE CONDUCTING.

UM, AND WE'RE CONDUCTING THOSE, UM, IT'S PART OF THE FEDERAL PROCESS.

UM, SINCE WE ARE PURSUING GRANT FUNDING FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECT, UM, NEPA IS ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, SO WE HAVE STARTED WITH A SERIES OF SCOPING PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, REALLY THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

UM, AND THEN WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE PUBLIC LATER IN THE YEAR WITH THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT.

UH, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE NEPA PROCESS TO CONCLUDE WITH THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT IN 2025.

MEANWHILE, WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN OTHER ACTIVITIES AND COORDINATION WITH FTA REALLY ALL TOWARDS, UM, PURSUING THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT.

SO THE MEETINGS I MENTIONED, THIS IS JUST A LIST OF WHAT WE'VE HAD ONE, UM, AT UT LAST WEEK.

UM, WE HAVE ONE ON SATURDAY, AND REALLY THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, UM, MOST ARE IN PERSON.

THERE IS ONE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE ON THE 22ND.

UM, SO, AND ALL THIS INFORMATION IS ON THE A TP WEBSITE AS WELL.

SO THE PROJECT ITSELF, UM, SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UM, IS WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE SAME, UM, PHASE ONE PROJECT THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED IN JUNE.

UH, BUT WE HAVE ADVANCED OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORK AND, AND TRIED TO BRING EVERYTHING TO A CONSISTENT LEVEL FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS THAT WE ARE BEGINNING TO CONDUCT.

SO THE PROJECT IS A 9.8 MILE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE, UM, IN STREET, UM, THROUGHOUT, UM, IT WOULD RUN, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE COMPARISON TO THE RED LINE, AND YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THESE DIFFERENT MODES, RIGHT? BUT, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IN THAT IT'S RUNNING IN STREET.

THE STATIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOGETHER, UM, AND, UM, CAN PROVIDE A MORE FREQUENT, UH, STOPS.

SO WE DID IDENTIFY PRIORITY EXTENSIONS, UH, AS PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

UM, SO WE STILL HAVE THOSE ON THE MAP.

UM, WE ARE NOT INCLUDING THE PRIORITY EXTENSIONS AS PART OF THE NEPA ANALYSIS.

UM, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE FUNDED PART.

UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S INTEREST IN, IN BOTH OF THOSE EXTENSIONS.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS IDENTIFIED, WE WOULD PIVOT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE PROJECT.

SO AS PART OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE INTRODUCING AT THIS SET OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, IS, UH, ABOUT A HALF DOZEN DESIGN OPTIONS THAT ARE, THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.

UH, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LINDSAY TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THOSE.

THANK YOU.

SO SINCE JUNE, REALLY HAVING THE ADOPTION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, PROVIDING THAT CLARITY AROUND WHAT AND, AND WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THE FIRST PHASE OF THE WORK WE'VE BEEN ADVANCING, UH, THE, THE BASE DESIGN, AND I CALL IT THE BASE DESIGN BECAUSE IT BECOMES THE BASIS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AS PART OF THE NEPA PROCESS.

AND IT ALSO IS, IS THE PHASE OF WORK WHERE WE ARE REALLY DEFINING THE PROJECT REQUIREMENTS AROUND THINGS LIKE, UH, THE STATIONS, THE, THE NEEDS ON HOW'RE GOING TO POWER

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THIS ELECTRICALLY POWERED SYSTEM.

UH, THE ALIGNMENT ITSELF.

AND REALLY ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT INFORM WHAT THE PROJECT'S FOOTPRINT IS, IS OUR FOCUS IN THIS CURRENT PHASE OF WORK.

THROUGH THAT WORK, AS WELL AS THROUGH LISTENING TO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND PRIOR PLANNING, WE'VE COME TO A SET OF, OF, UH, SIX DESIGN OPTIONS THAT ARE, ARE GENERALLY TARGETING OPTIMIZING THE USER EXPERIENCE OR MAXIMIZING THE USER EXPERIENCE OF THE SYSTEM.

AND THOSE FALL INTO TWO GENERAL CATEGORIES.

ONE IS THE STATIONS, UH, WHERE THE STATIONS MAY BE, UH, POTENTIALLY ADDING STATIONS TO THE SYSTEM AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PLANNING THE STATIONS TO BE WOVEN INTO THE SURROUNDING URBAN FABRIC.

UH, THE, THE SECOND CATEGORY IS REALLY HOW DO TRAINS AND BUSES AND BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS ALL BEST INTERACT TOGETHER KNOWING THAT THE LIGHT RAIL DOES NOT, UM, OPERATE AS WELL AS IT CAN WHEN THOUGHT OF IN A VACUUM, BUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW WE ARE MOVING PEOPLE MOST EFFECTIVELY IN ALL THEIR MODES OF TRAVEL.

ALONG THE ALIGNMENT.

UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT END OF LINE FACILITIES.

SO I MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WANTING TO THINK ABOUT FUTURE PHASES AS WELL, AND, AND HOW DO WE BRING PEOPLE INTO THIS FIRST PHASE THAT MAY NOT LIVE OR, OR WORK OR, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE DIRECT CONNECTIONS RIGHT ALONG THE ALIGNMENT.

SO DIVING A LITTLE FURTHER INTO EACH OF THESE DESIGN OPTIONS, WE'LL WALK THROUGH SECTION BY SECTION OF THE ALIGNMENT.

UH, THE, STARTING FROM THE NORTH, THERE AREN'T REALLY DESIGN OPTIONS HERE, PER SE.

UH, THE, THE STATIONS REMAIN AS, AS PREVIOUSLY IMAGINED, UH, IN THEIR LOCATIONS.

BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PARK AND RIDE FACILITIES AT THE 38TH STREET STATION.

AND I WILL HIGHLIGHT THAT, ALTHOUGH IT, IT'S NOT A, AN OPTION, UH, NOR HAS IT CHANGED SINCE PREVIOUS CONCEPTS IMAGINED AND, AND COMMUNICATED WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS CONTINUES TO CARRY FORWARD, THE DESIGN ALONG GUADALUPE THAT HAS, UH, REALLY PRIORITIZES TRANSIT AND, AND THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND, AND PEDESTRIANS AS WELL IN THE AREA FROM ABOUT 22ND STREET TO 29TH, WHICH INCLUDES REROUTING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO, UM, ADJACENT STREETS AND OTHER NORTH SOUTH THOROUGHFARES.

TAKE THAT DOWNTOWN.

SURE.

UM, SO MOVING SOUTH FROM THE DRAG, UM, THE, THE PROPOSED PROJECT REMAINS ON GUADALUPE.

UM, AND THEN ONCE IT GETS DOWN TO ABOUT THIRD STREET WOULD TURN TO THE EAST.

UM, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF DESIGN OPTIONS THAT, UH, WE'RE JUST CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW.

ONE IS TO ADD A STATION, UH, IN THE VICINITY OF WOOLRIDGE SQUARE.

THIS REALLY CAME OUT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, ESPECIALLY LAST SPRING.

UH, JUST GENERALLY COMMENTING MORE STATIONS, MORE ACCESS DOWNTOWN.

UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE TECHNICAL TEAM IS, IS EXPLORING THE FEASIBILITY OF.

UM, ANOTHER OPTION IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS, UH, CLOSER TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A STATION PROPOSED AT CESAR CHAVEZ, UM, ON TRINITY.

AND SO WHAT THIS OPTION IS WOULD BE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A, A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING AT THE CORNER OF TRINITY AND THIRD, UM, WHERE WE MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CO-LOCATE THE STATION WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT, UH, WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF JUST INTEGRATING THE STATION, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE STREETSCAPE AND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND IT WOULD, RIGHT NOW IT'S A 90 DEGREE TURN THERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ISN'T A PROBLEM FOR OPERATIONS NECESSARILY, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LESS DRAMATIC OF A TURN.

AND MOVING SOUTH ACROSS LADY BIRD LAKE, WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE WATERFRONT STATION.

UH, THIS IS SORT OF A, A SPECIAL MOMENT IN THE SYSTEM IN THAT IT'S WHERE THE THREE BRANCHES COMING FROM NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST ARE ALL COME TOGETHER AND INTERSECT AT THIS JUNCTION.

IT'S ALSO UNIQUE IN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THIS AREA.

UH, THE, THE WATERFRONT STATION IS, IS APPROACHED.

I'M ACTUALLY GONNA, I THINK, GO HERE TO HELP ILLUSTRATE THIS POINT.

THE WATERFRONT STATION HAS A NEW BRIDGE PLANNED COMING OVER LADY BIRD LAKE FROM THE NORTH.

AND IT ALSO HAS TWO HILLS THAT ARE COMING DOWN FROM SOUTH CONGRESS AND ALSO FROM RIVERSIDE.

AND SO IT

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SORT OF BECOMES IN THE LOW POINT OR THE MIDDLE OF A BOWL.

AND SO THINKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO HANDLE THIS, UH, REALLY WHERE WE LAND THE BRIDGE OVER LADY BIRD LAKE, THE FIRST OPTION BEING TO BRING THAT BACK DOWN TO GROUND BEFORE THE WATERFRONT STATION, WHICH WOULD HAVE THE STATION AND THAT LIGHT RAIL JUNCTION THAT I MENTIONED BEING AT STREET LEVEL.

THE SECOND OPTION IS TO MAINTAIN THAT THE BRIDGE COMING OVER LADY BIRD LAKE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE HILLS I MENTIONED, AND, AND HAVING THE STATION AS WELL AS THAT JUNCTION ELEVATED ON THE BRIDGE AND THEN TYING INTO THOSE HILLS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO STUDY THOSE LANDING LOCATIONS AS PART OF OUR WORK IN THE COMING YEAR.

CAN I MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE.

I'M SAYING THIS ON THIS IMAGE LEFT IS THE SOUTH AND RIGHT IS THE NORTH, IS THAT, UH, IT CAN BE, IT CAN ALSO, SO YES, UH, BUT IT ALSO APPLIES TO REALLY RIVERSIDE AS WELL.

SO YOU COULD THINK OF THE RIGHT IS ALWAYS NORTH.

THE LEFT COULD EITHER BE APPROACHING THE SOUTH TOWARDS SOUTH CONGRESS, BUT IT ALSO IS APPROACHING RIVERSIDE TO THE EAST DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING.

UM, SO GOING BACK TO THIS SECTION, THE NEXT DESIGN OPTION, MOVING EASTWARD IS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING CONSIDERING OPTIONS BOTH WITH AND WITHOUT A TRAVIS HEIGHT STATION, PARTICULARLY GIVEN, GIVEN THE UNIQUE SURROUNDINGS OF THAT STATION, UH, BEING, UH, REALLY IN BETWEEN A, A PARK, A HISTORIC DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS AT I 35.

SO ON THE EAST SECTION, UH, THE LIGHT RAIL IS PROPOSED TO OPERATE ALONG EAST RIVERSIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, THIS MAP IS SHOWING FROM ABOUT I 35, I'M SORRY, , UH, SORRY.

THE EAST SECTION, UM, WOULD HAVE LIGHT RAIL OPERATING ON EAST RIVERSIDE, UM, FROM, AND THIS MAP IS SHOWING FROM ABOUT I 35 OUT TO YELLOW JACKET, UM, CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT.

SO ALONG THIS SECTION, UM, AGAIN, LIKE, UM, WELL ACTUALLY LET ME TACKLE THE STATION, UM, OPTION WE HAVE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DESIGN OPTIONS IN HERE.

SO IF THERE ARE STATIONS PROPOSED AT PHARAOH AND MONTOPOLIS, UM, AN OPTION THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION IS TO POTENTIALLY CON CONSOLIDATE THOSE INTO ONE STATION THAT WOULD BE LOCATED AT GROVE.

UM, AND, AND THE REASON FOR THIS SUGGESTION IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS TO, UH, POTENTIALLY BETTER CONNECT WITH, WITH THE BUS SERVICE, UM, THAT SERVES THE A CC RIVERSIDE CAMPUS.

UH, ALSO THERE IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED AT GROVE AND RIVERSIDE THAT THIS, THAT LIGHT RAIL WOULD DIRECTLY SERVE POTENTIALLY.

UM, THE OTHER DESIGN OPTION REALLY PERTAINS TO THE CORRIDOR AND HOW, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT MODES WOULD OPERATE HERE.

UM, OUR BASE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT WOULD BE CENTER RUNNING LIGHT RAIL.

UM, SO YOU WOULD HAVE LIGHT RAIL RUNNING IN, YOU KNOW, TWO LANES ESSENTIALLY IN THE CENTER, AND THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES WOULD BE ON THE CURB.

UM, WITH TRAFFIC RUNNING IN BETWEEN, THAT WOULD BE A VERY TYPICAL CROSS SECTION.

UM, SO THE IDEA, THE OPTION THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION WOULD BASICALLY REARRANGE HOW THOSE MODES ARE OCCURRING ON THE STREET.

YOU WOULD STILL HAVE CENTER RUNNING LIGHT RAIL, BUT UM, IN THIS CONCEPT WOULD MOVE THE BIKE AND THE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES TO BE ALSO CENTER RUNNING NEXT TO THE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM, UM, AND TRAFFIC ON EITHER SIDE.

SO ONE OF THE, THE REASONS THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THIS IS JUST TO HAVE A MORE CONTINUOUS BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN WAY THROUGH THAT AREA, UM, WHICH IS, IT'S LESS CONTINUOUS THAN SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND ANOTHER THING ALONG EAST RIVERSIDE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGHT OF WAY AVAILABLE TO US, WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE CONSIDERING IT HERE AND NOT EVERYWHERE POTENTIALLY.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD ADD TO THAT? UH, IT ALSO MAY INTRODUCE THE OPPORTUNITY OF SORT OF BALANCING THE SOMETIMES COMPETING NEEDS OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND A TREE SHADED, UH, PATHWAY FOR, FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS AND, AND MOVING SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS TO THE CENTER OF THE CORRIDOR, UH, MAY ALLOW FOR FEWER CONFLICTS WITH UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

UH, BUT I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT APPLYING TO ALL OF THESE OPTIONS, WE ARE MAKING NO RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY.

WE ARE NOTING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE STUDYING AND, AND GOING THROUGH A, A THOUGHTFUL PROCESS, INCLUDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY INPUT AND FEEDBACK.

UM, WE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS ON THESE, THAT IS REALLY OUR WORK AHEAD.

SO I'M

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GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.

UM, AGAIN, WE WERE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT TO BE RELEASED LATER IN THE YEAR, UM, AND IT WOULD BE FOLLOWED BY A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

SO, UM, AN EISI MEAN, I KNOW YOU PROBABLY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THEM, BUT IT GENERALLY INCLUDES AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, A BUILD ALTERNATIVE AND A NO ACTION ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD BE COMPARED AGAINST EACH OTHER.

UM, SO THE NO ACTION ALTERNATIVE IS A SCENARIO IN WHICH BASICALLY YOU DON'T BUILD THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

UM, AND THE, THE PURPOSE OF DOING IT THAT WAY, WAY IS REALLY TO SET UP, UM, A DISCUSSION OF WHAT CHANGES OR IMPACTS ARE HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED LIGHT RAIL PROJECT IN THIS CASE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO JUST OTHER TRENDS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ONGOING.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY IT'LL BE STRUCTURED THAT WAY.

UH, AND THAT'S VERY TYPICAL IN NEPA.

UH, ANOTHER POINT WE WANNA MAKE IS THAT WE TALK ABOUT THEM BEING ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES.

AND I, UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GET IS THAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT REALLY THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT, BUT THE ANALYSIS DOES ALSO CONTEMPLATE THE HUMAN ENVIRONMENT, NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CULTURAL ENVIRONMENT, HISTORIC PROPERTIES WE'LL BE DOING, UM, AN ANALYSIS OF POTENTIAL NOISE IMPACTS.

SO IT'S GONNA BE A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE SET OF STUDIES, UM, TO JUST PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND THIS SET OF DESIGN OPTIONS.

SO THE, WE ARE HAVING A SET OF MEETINGS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS SCOPING, THIS IS THE TIME, UM, WHERE IT'S WOULD BE REALLY MEANINGFUL FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND COMMENT ON.

UM, SO THE RANGE OF TOPICS AND ISSUES THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, THE CONCERNS PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT OR THE DESIGN OPTIONS, BECAUSE WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE STUDIES THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

UM, WE WILL BE COMING BACK AGAIN IN THE FALL WITH THE DRAFT EIS, UM, AND THEN ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVE ON THE DRAFT DURING THAT PERIOD, UH, WE WOULD RESPOND TO AND THEN INCORPORATE INTO A FINAL EIS THAT WOULD BE RELEASED IN 2025.

SO THAT IS OUR LAST SLIDE.

WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I, I IMAGINE THERE'S GONNA BE QUITE A FEW BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN HERE ON THIS BUDDY.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I'LL SPENCER, YOU WANNA GO FIRST, COMMISSIONER? YEAH, I'LL KNOW.

I HAVE LIKE A DOZEN QUESTIONS.

I'M GONNA ASSUME A LOT OF THEM ARE GONNA BE ASKED HERE.

SO I'LL ASK A A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE ITEM AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AROUND SO I DON'T MONOPOLIZE TIME.

SURE.

UM, SO MY QUESTION THOUGH, THE QUESTIONS I WANNA START OFF ON ARE ABOUT THE PARK AND RIDES.

UM, AND THOSE ARE TWO, THE, THE 38TH STREET ONE AND THE TRF ONE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE WEREN'T PREVIOUSLY ON THE LIGHT RAIL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SO I, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

I'M, I, I'M KIND OF REALLY STRUGGLING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE TWF ONE AND SPECIFICALLY THE 38TH STREET ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARK AND RIDE FACILITY AT THE TRIANGLE ALREADY THAT HAS 200 SPACES, RIGHT? AND IT DOESN'T GIVE ME A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CONFIDENCE ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO BUILD THOSE PRIORITY EXTENSIONS IF WE'RE ALREADY THINKING WE'RE GONNA NEED AN END OF LINE FACILITY AT 38TH STREET.

BUT ALSO MY KIND OF, MY OTHER PROBLEM IS I, I KNOW HOW WE EVALUATE WHETHER A STATION IS GOING TO HAVE RIDERSHIP.

I DON'T QUITE KNOW HOW WE EVALUATE PARK AND RIDES, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THE PARK AND RIDE IS, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A 20 MINUTE DRIVE FROM THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR.

SO MY QUESTION IS HERE, DOES THIS STUDY MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO BUILD END OF LINE, UM, FACILITIES AT OLTORF AND 38TH STREET, OR COULD A POSSIBLE OUTCOME OF THE STUDY BE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THE PARK AND RIDE? AND THEN SECONDLY, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU DO EVALUATE IF THE PARK AND RIDE WILL BRING THOSE INTENDED BENEFITS? SO LEMME START, THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE.

SO, UM, YEAH, SORRY, THAT'S LIKE FOUR QUESTIONS.

IF WE FORGET ANYTHING.

JUST, JUST TO REMIND, UH, LET ME KINDA START WITH THE KIND OF CONNECTION BETWEEN KIND OF RIDERSHIP AND PARK AND RIDES AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR HOW THING, HOW WE'RE MAKING ASSESSMENTS AT THE END OF LINE.

UM, 'CAUSE AT, AT EACH OF THE END OF LINE LOCATIONS, SO THERE ARE THREE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONTEMPLATING PARKING, UM, BUT ALSO OTHER END OF, END OF LINE OF FACILITIES LIKE MAKING SURE WE HAVE SEAMLESS BUS TRANSFERS.

MM-HMM.

FOR EXAMPLE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING, WE DO MODEL, UM, AND LOOK AT HOW ARE PEOPLE ACCESSING THE SYSTEM.

UM, ARE THEY BEING DROPPED OFF BY A CAR, UM, OR ARE THEY RIDING A BIKE? UM, OR THEY TRANSFERRING FROM A BUS.

UM, SO WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO KIND OF PROJECT, UH, THE, THOSE TYPES WHAT THE MODE OF ACCESS IS.

UM, AND SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE EVALUATION IS WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE CONNECTION THERE.

UM, TO HAVE PARKING AT ENDS OF LINE TYPICALLY DOES DRIVE RIDERSHIP ACTUALLY, JUST AS A TYPICAL, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR TO WALK, BUT IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO TAKE LIGHT RAIL OTHERWISE WOULD, WOULD DO THAT.

UM, BUT I DO TAKE YOUR POINT, UM, ABOUT,

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UM, APPROPRIATE SIZING OF END OF LINE FACILITIES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING TO EXTEND FURTHER MM-HMM.

, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR EVALUATION AND JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA OVERBUILD PARKING BECAUSE IF THE END OF LINE MOVES IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE OVERBUILT IT.

AND SO THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE PART OF THE ANALYSIS, RIGHT? AND, AND FOR THAT REASON, WE'RE ALSO INVESTIGATING POTENTIAL LEASE OPTIONS FOR SOME OF THESE FACILITIES.

IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE BUILDING A, A PARK AND RIDE STRUCTURE.

WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT UNIQUE OPTIONS FOR EACH LOCATION, DEPENDING ON THE AVAILABILITY OF DIFFERENT SITES AND, AND PARKING CAPACITY IN THAT AREA.

AND SO, SO THE, THE ONE PART, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I DID THROW LIKE FOUR QUESTIONS AT YOU, SO APOLOGIES.

UH, ONE PART YOU DIDN'T ANSWER IS NO BUILD AN OPTION.

YES.

OKAY.

THERE, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT OUT OF THIS ANALYSIS, IT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE DEMAND FOR THESE PARKING FACILITIES.

WE'LL ALSO BE GATHERING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AND IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE RESULTS OF THAT COULD SHOW THAT THEY'RE NOT WARRANTED MM-HMM.

, UH, BUT WE, WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE COMPETITIVENESS OF THE PROJECT AS, AS WELL AND MAKING IT, UM, AND OPTIMIZING THE USER EXPERIENCE AND MAKING IT AS ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE.

SO, AND THEN MY, MY OTHER ISSUE, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL HOP OFF OF THIS IS, UH, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE 38TH STREET, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH SEGMENT, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR ETOD, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE REST OF THE NORTH FULMAR SEGMENT AND, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN SEGMENT IS PRETTY BUILT UP.

UM, SO HOW ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT PARK AND RIDES CAN BE BUILT MAYBE ALONGSIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, USING OUR RESOURCES AND BUILDING RIDERSHIP AS BEST WE CAN? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, I, I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT FIRST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE ALSO DO SEE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ETOD AND, AND CONNECTIONS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL.

UH, IN PARTICULAR, RIVERSIDE HAS A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT ARE NOT FULLY DEVELOPED.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THERE'S EVEN A CITY PLANNED AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY THAT JEN HIGHLIGHTED, UM, RIGHT THERE AT GROVE AND, AND POTENTIALLY A NUMBER OF OTHERS THAT MAY BE PLANNED AS WELL.

UH, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DO ONE OF THE, THE PRINCIPLE DESIGN PRINCIPLES IS THAT WE, UM, TRY TO FOCUS THE USE OF RESOURCES AND DOLLARS ON BUILDING THE, THE ASPECTS THAT MAXIMIZE THE, THE USE OF THE SYSTEM.

AND SO MINIMIZING THE USE OF THOSE DOLLARS ON LAND ACQUISITION MM-HMM, AND REAL ESTATE AND ACQUIRING PROPERTY AND BUILDINGS WHERE WE DON'T ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROJECT.

SO WHILE I THINK THAT'S A, A WONDERFUL, UM, ENDEAVOR TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WE, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ACQUIRING MORE LAND, THEN WE, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO, TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF, OF THE DOLLAR.

SO IT'S, IT BECOMES A PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING WITH OTHERS AND, AND UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, PARTNERSHIPS THAT OTHERS MIGHT WANT TO CARRY FORWARD.

AND, AND THAT'S PART OF THE WORK WE DO NOW TO SIGNAL WHERE OUR ENDS OF LINE ARE AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UM, GARNER INTEREST IN SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

YEAH.

UH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER.

I'M ALSO GLAD TO HEAR YOU GUYS ARE, ARE LOOKING AT LEASING.

THAT DEFINITELY EASES SOME OF MY CONCERNS.

I'D ALSO BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THERE ARE SO MANY GREAT PLANNING DECISIONS THAT I CAN ALREADY SEE BEING MADE AND BEING CONSIDERED THROUGHOUT THIS.

UH, WE PROBABLY WON'T TOUCH ON THAT AS MUCH JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND WANT SO MANY OTHER THINGS, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

I'LL DEFINITELY YIELD THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS.

THANKS.

I SEE REEN COMMISSIONER BROOKS.

YEAH, JOHN, UH, JUST TO ADD SOME DATA TO THE CONVERSATION, THE HEAVIEST USE, THE HEAVIEST USED STOPS ON THE EIGHT OH CURRENT 8 0 1 ARE AT THE END OF THE LINES.

SO I WOULD JUST, ON THE BASIS OF THAT DATA ALONE, I WOULD EXPECT SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF RIDERS OF THE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM TO WANT TO START THEIR JOURNEY AT WHATEVER THE END OF THE LINE HAPPENS TO BE.

THEY DO IT NOW, THEY'LL DO IT LATER, AND THERE'S A DANGER WITH NOT PROVIDING SOME KIND OF PLANNED PARKING FACILITIES, WHICH IS YOU GET HIDE AND RIDES AND, AND EXPRESSION, WHICH I LEARNED FROM AN EARLIER SPEAKER TO THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE PEOPLE WILL TRY AND FIND INFORMAL PARKING SPACES AND THIS OBVIOUSLY MOST NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY UNHAPPY WITH THAT.

SO THERE IS, THERE IS A, A DOWNSIDE TO NOT PROVIDING THE FACILITIES.

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AND THEN, UM, I WOULD NOT, I WOULD ALSO URGE NOT WORRYING TOO MUCH ABOUT THE EXISTING POTENTIAL FOR TODS, BECAUSE AT LEAST THE NUMBER THAT CAMPO USES FOR TURNOVER OF PROPERTY IS EVERY 50 YEARS.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT APPEAR TO BE BUILT WELL BUILT UP NOW LONG BEFORE THE LIFETIME OF THE LIGHT RAIL IS REACHED, WILL BE COMING UP FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY THE CITY WILL HAVE APPROPRIATE ZONING TO ENCOURAGE ETO DEVELOPMENT EVEN ON THOSE EXISTING AREAS.

SO THAT'S, YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, ONE OF MY FIRST POINTS IS ACTUALLY I'M, I'M ABSOLUTELY NOT CONCEDING THE IDEA THAT THAT THAT THE PORTION OF THIS LINE NORTH OF CAMPUS HAS NO ETO TOD OPPORTUNITIES.

AND MAYBE THAT'S A INFLAMMATORY STATEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I I'M NOT GONNA CONCEDE THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT SURE.

I THINK WE CAN FIX THAT.

THERE'S MORE AT 38TH STREET THAN THERE WOULD BE IN WEST CAMPUS MAYBE.

WELL I CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER.

, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE LESS, THE AREAS AT THE END OF THE LINE ARE CURRENTLY LESS BUILT UP AND LESS ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS.

YEAH.

SO I I, NOT TO HAMMER THE 38TH STREET TOO MUCH, I LIKE SPENCER.

I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THERE'S LEASING OPPORTUNITIES.

YOU KNOW, I WORK AT UT AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF COLLEAGUES WHO LIVE, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE STAFF AT UT DON'T LIVE IN CENTRAL AUSTIN.

AND SO, UM, THEY DRIVE FROM FARTHER OUT IN AUSTIN AND THEY PARK AT THE TRIANGLE AND THEN THEY TAKE THE BUS IN.

A LOT OF THAT IS CANDIDLY AVOIDING PARKING, PAYING FOR A UT PARKING PERMIT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF GOOD.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S GOOD.

BUT SO I THINK THAT IT'S, UM, ONE THING THAT I THINK IS CAREFUL AND I THINK WE WANT TO COMPARE TO LIKE, TO LIKE, RIGHT? SO LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DRIVE FROM FARTHER OUT OR MAYBE EVEN SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE CITY AND PARK AT A URBAN PARKING GARAGE VERSUS A EX-URBAN PARKING GARAGE LIKE AT TECH RIDGE OR SOMETHING.

I THINK THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT NEEDS AND DIFFERENT POPULATIONS.

SO I THINK WHEN YOU'RE STUDYING LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD PARK HERE, HOW MUCH DO WE WANNA INVEST? YOU REALLY WANNA COMPARE LIKE TO LIKE, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I DO THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME TRANSFORMATION POTENTIAL AT THAT, THAT SITE OVERALL.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKE IN THAT AREA, LIKE PEOPLE LIKE CENTRAL MARKET.

BUT IT WAS ALSO TO ME, ONE OF THAT, THAT SITE WAS ONE OF THE LAST ONES PLANNED THAT WHERE WE BUILT BASICALLY A SUBURBAN STYLE SHOPPING CENTER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.

AND SO LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WEAVING STATIONS INTO URBAN FABRIC, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE, ACTUALLY EVEN THOSE ARE THINGS PEOPLE LIKE ABOUT THAT SITE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF LIKE REMEDIATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT I THINK THAT WE COULD IMAGINE THERE.

UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE WHEN I WAS IN GRAD SCHOOL.

I HAD DATED SOMEONE WHO LIVED RIGHT IN THAT PLACE, SO I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, COMMENT AND I ACTUALLY, I THINK I'VE SEEN THIS IMAGE BEFORE AND SOMEHOW I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT OR WASN'T LEGIBLE TO ME TILL JUST NOW WITH THE BRIDGE COMING OVER THE WATERFRONT.

AND, UM, I DON'T, UM, I'M ALWAYS BEEN ONE WHO'S A LITTLE BIT BEEN MORE OPEN TO ELEVATED OPTIONS.

SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME SAY THAT DURING THE PROCESS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE IMPLE DECIDING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, BUT I DO THINK THAT I HEARD FROM A LOT OF FORUMS DURING THAT PERIOD THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF, UH, SKEPTICISM AROUND ELEVATED OPTIONS.

WE DIDN'T GO WITH THAT OPTION DOWNTOWN.

SO WHEN I SEE IT SORT OF REEMERGING HERE, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AND, AND IN PARTICULAR LIKE IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, LIKE WHY, WHY LIKE, IS IT SAVE US A LOT OF MONEY SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A PRIORITY EXTENSION SOONER? DOES IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT OTHER BENEFITS DO WE SEE ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING AN ELEVATE? DOES IT MAKE THE, DOES IT SLOW US DOWN BY THREE MINUTES TO HAVE TO GO UP AND DOWN A HILL WITH THE LIGHT RAILS? SO LIKE, LIKE REALLY QUANTIFYING THAT TO PEOPLE.

WHAT THE, WHAT ARE THE TRADE OFFS? BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I WASN'T NECESSARILY ON, I MEAN, I WAS KIND OF MORE NEUTRAL, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE PRETTY, MY, MY MEMORY WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF SORT OF AT PEOPLE OPPOSING THE IDEA OF MORE ELEVATED SOLUTIONS, PARTICULARLY IN THE CENTER CITY, WHICH ARGUABLY THIS, THIS IS.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING TO DEFINITELY KEEP IN MIND REGARDING.

UM, AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO JUST SAY TOO, WITH THE, THE RIVERSIDE SECTION, I THINK THIS IS VERY PROMISING WHEN I SEE THIS SORT OF THIS, UM, SCHEMATIC HERE.

I WAS LIKE, WELL, THERE WOULD STILL BE SIDEWALKS ON THE SIDES, RIGHT? AND OF COURSE RIVERSIDE IS CHANGING A LOT RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE SUBURBAN STYLE SHOPPING CENTERS, SO THERE'S THE SIDEWALK A LOT OF TIMES WITH A GIGANTIC ASPHALT PARKING LOT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YARDS AND YARDS AND YARDS AWAY A A, A SHOPPING CENTER.

BUT I DO SEE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN RID OF THE SIDEWALKS ON THE SIDE, SO THAT'S WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WONDERED.

THOSE ARE STILL THERE, SO THAT'S GOOD.

UM, I KIND OF LIKE THIS IDEA.

AND I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE TOO IS, I KNOW THAT, UM, IN THE, THE 26 TEEN

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MOBILITY BONDS, THERE WAS MONEY FOR REWORKING RIVERSIDE.

AND THAT'S ALL SORT OF LIKE, I GUESS KIND OF ON HOLD AS WE ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL.

HOW IS THE COORDINATION AS YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CENTER, CENTER RUNNING BIKE LANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? HOW IS YOUR COORDINATION WITH THE CITY? I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT YOUR COORDINATION WITH THE CITY ON OTHER THINGS, BUT IN TERMS OF THE LIKE BOND FUNDING THAT THEY MAY HAVE THAT COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, BE A REAL ASSET IN THIS PLANNING.

HOW IS THAT LOOKING FOR Y'ALL? UH, WE ARE VERY CLOSELY INTEGRATED WITH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS THROUGH, UH, NOT ONLY THE EVALUATION OF THIS DESIGN OPTION, BUT ACTUALLY THROUGH THE CREATION OF IT AND REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVES AT THE TABLE, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SAFELY DESIGNING THE STREETSCAPE TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, LEFT TURNS AND, AND HOW IT WOULD, UH, BE COORDINATED WITH THE, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM.

AND HOW DO YOU GET INTO AND OUT OF THAT, THAT SORT OF URBAN TRAIL IN THE MIDDLE OF A STREET ESSENTIALLY? MM-HMM.

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UH, SO WE'RE WORKING VERY, VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER ON THAT.

UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIP AND REALLY BRINGING THIS AS, UH, AN AMENITY A A COMMUNITY AMENITY IN A SENSE.

AND, AND SO I WOULD WOULD LOVE TO FIND ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS AS WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE IT.

UH, BUT I DO WANNA NOTE, WE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO US TOO, TO HEAR HOW PEOPLE RESPOND TO IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD, WOULD PEOPLE WANT TO USE IT IS, IS BEING IN THAT AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET SOMETHING THAT'S DESIRABLE, THAT FEELS SEPARATED AND, UH, MAYBE SAFER FROM BEING KIND OF ON THE EDGE AND ALONG THE CURB, OR, UH, DOES IT FEEL LESS SAFE BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE AND YOU HAVE, UH, FAST MOVING CARS? SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A, A LOT OF PERSPECTIVES, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT, IS TO GATHER ALL OF THOSE TO, TO EVALUATE IT.

BUT WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ON THAT ONE.

YEAH.

I, I, I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION AND IT IS ABOUT THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS STATION.

I DO THINK THERE'S, UM, AND YOU DESCRIBED THEM, THERE'S SOME, SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT STATION IN TERMS OF JUST THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.

IT'S SORT OF LIKE THERE'S THE RIVER AND A PARK AND THEN SORT OF ALMOST LIKE VIRTUALLY A CLIFF.

MAYBE NOT EXACTLY A CLIFF, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME DEFINITE GEOGRAPHIC, UM, THINGS, UH, WITH, AND I CERTAINLY COULD NOT, UM, IMAGINE NECESSARILY WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE WOULD THINK.

UM, I ASSUME THAT YOU'RE ENGAGING WITH THEM.

UM, WHAT, I KNOW IT'S VERY EARLY, LIKE DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SAID ABOUT THAT? OR DID THEY WANT A STATION OR, YES, , WE'VE, WE'VE RECEIVED MIXED REVIEWS.

UM, DEFINITELY, UM, A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, SKEPTICISM AS TO WHO WILL USE IT BASED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE RIDERSHIP AT THE, OF THE NUMBER 20 CURRENTLY SERVING THE AREA.

BUT THEN, UM, ALSO SOME EXCITEMENT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T JUST AN EAST WEST CONNECTION, BUT IT ALSO GOES NORTH AND SOUTH.

MM-HMM, .

UM, SO IT'S BEEN VERY BALANCED, UM, FEEDBACK, UH, AND, AND NOW IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, BALANCING LIKE, ARE, ARE WE GONNA TAKE A A LIGHT RAIL THROUGH THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT OFFER A STOP EXCEPT FOR AT WATERFRONT AND LAKE SHORE? SO THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO CONSIDER AND WE'RE JUST SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE THE ACTIVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF EVERYONE ON, ON BOTH SIDES.

SO CERTAINLY.

THANKS.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

I THINK, UH, IDEAS ABOUT MORE HOUSEBOATS ON LAKE LIKE THAT YOU COULDN'T CALL IT THE WALK SHE OF THE STATION ANYMORE.

MAYBE THE SKINNY, SHE, UM, YEAH, I'M, I'LL CALL ON YOU.

SORRY.

SORRY.

UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I HOPE ONE IS REALLY QUICK.

THE, THIS TO ME, WITH THESE TWO HILLS WHERE YOU'RE LIKE GOING DOWN AND GOING BACK UP, I WAS A BIG ON STREET PERSON DURING THE WHOLE DECISION MAKING JUST, YOU KNOW, AESTHETICALLY AND JUST THE WAY THAT IT INTERACTS LIKE, OR WITH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, I'D LIKE IT BETTER, BUT OVER HERE WHERE YOU'RE DIPPING DOWN AND CLIMBING UP, IT KINDA LOOKS GOOFY TO ME.

AND SO I THINK THAT THIS ELEVATED HERE, LIKE MAYBE MIGHT CHANGE MY MIND.

BUT, UM, I WAS WONDERING IS THAT THIS AREA AT WHERE YOU CROSS THE RIVER WHERE THE BRIDGE IS GONNA BE IN AND HIT RIVERSIDE AND SOUTH CONGRESS, IT'S PART OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN.

THERE'S LIKE SOME VERY, VERY LARGE PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE.

I THINK THE STATESMAN PUTT IS LIKE FIVE TOWERS.

UH, ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS THERE AT ALL TO THINK ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT INTERACT WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENTS THERE AND HOW YOU COULD MAYBE MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, REALLY COOL WITH COLLABORATION THERE?

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