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SIX O'CLOCK.

[Call to Order]

THIS IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 20TH.

WE ARE THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSION.

WE ARE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

UM, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER BOONE.

I HAVE NOT SEEN HIM.

COMMISSIONER FLORES HERE.

COMMISSIONER FLOYD? HERE.

COMMISSIONER F HERE.

COMMISSIONER GARRETT.

I HAVE NOT SEEN HER.

COMMISSIONER.

UH, VICE CHAIR GREENBERG HERE.

CHAIR SMITH.

I AM HERE.

COMMISSIONER STERN.

NOT SEEN LONNIE LONNIE'S OUTTA TOWN, I THINK.

AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

YOU'RE THE SECRETARY.

OKAY.

SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF SIX PEOPLE PRESENT.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION CHAIR? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION TODAY.

OKAY.

NO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

AND I'LL START.

DOES ANYBODY

[Consent Agenda]

HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? IF NOT, WE WILL HAVE THE MINUTES INCLUDED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024.

ITEM TWO IS A REZONING CASE.

UM, IT IS C 14 20 23 DASH 0 1 2 0 CHAPARRAL 10% BELOW.

UM, AND IT IS AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.

UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR THAT ONE SET.

UM, ITEM THREE IS A REZONING CASE, C 14 20 23 DASH 0 1 21 AT 1 0 8 0 1 BRADSHAW ROAD.

IT IS REZONING FROM INTERIM MRR TO SF THREE AND IT IS RECOMMENDED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM FOUR IS A ZONING CASE, C 14 20 23 DASH 0 1 0 OPTIMIST CLUB RECREATION, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING STAFF IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 5TH.

SO THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT FOR ITEM TWO.

UH, CONSENT AGENDA FOR ITEM THREE APPROVAL AND POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 5TH FOR ITEM FOUR.

PARDON ME, CHAIR SMITH.

UM, JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

UM, ITEM TWO MM-HMM.

IS A APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.

RIGHT? THERE'S NO DATE SET.

SO IT'S AN A.

YEAH.

CORRECT.

THE APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA? IF NOT, DO I HEAR A MOTION? COMMISSIONER GREENBERG MOTIONS.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? DON'T FORGET, COMMISSIONER FOR A SECONDS TO, AND THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AS UNANIMOUS SIX.

OH, GOOD THING.

UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA, ENCLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[5. Equity-Based Preservation Plan]

UH, ITEM FIVE IS A BRIEFING ON EQUITY BASED PRESERVATION.

IS MS. CAR ? COME ON UP.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

KARA BERTRAN WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE, THE EQUITY BASED PRESERVATION PLAN.

I CAN MOVE MY OWN SLIDES.

OKAY.

UM, SO I WANNA START WITH THE PLAN VISION.

THIS WAS CREATED BASED ON A COMMUNITY HERITAGE SURVEY WITH 170 RESPONSES.

THE VISION IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN AUSTIN ACTIVELY ENGAGES COMMUNITIES IN PROTECTING AND SHARING IMPORTANT PLACES AND STORIES.

PRESERVATION USES THE PAST TO CREATE A SHARED SENSE OF BELONGING AND TO SHAPE AN EQUITABLE, INCLUSIVE, SUSTAINABLE, AND ECONOMICALLY VITAL FUTURE FOR ALL.

AND THIS VISION, REALLY LIKE THE PLAN COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT IS THAT PLACES KINDA AT THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF IT, BUT IT'S MUCH MORE ABOUT WHO'S DOING THAT WORK AND WHAT BENEFITS IT HAS FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

THIS IS, UH, SORT OF THE ECOLOGY OF DEVELOPING THE EQUITY BASED PRESERVATION PLAN.

IN A NUTSHELL, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION CREATED A COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP, THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP, A GROUP OF 26 COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT SPENT ONE YEAR CREATING THE DRAFT PLAN.

THEY HEARD FROM LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY HERITAGE SURVEY, THROUGH FOCUS GROUPS, UM, AN URBAN LAND INSTITUTE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PANEL.

UH, ALTOGETHER THEY HEARD FROM THAT 26 PERSON WORKING GROUP HEARD FROM MORE THAN 300 PEOPLE IN SHAPING THE DRAFT PLAN.

SO THEY WERE AT THE CENTER, BUT HEARD FROM LOTS INPUT AND FEEDBACK FROM LOTS OF FOLKS.

THESE ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP.

FROM THAT FIRST PHASE THAT CREATED THE DRAFT PLAN, THE GROUP CAME FROM, UH, 19 ZIP CODES ACROSS THE CITY.

UH, IT WAS REALLY RACIALLY AND ETHNICALLY DIVERSE IN A WAY THAT, UH, GENERALLY MIRRORS THE CITY'S DEMOGRAPHICS.

SOME PEOPLE CAME IN WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH CITY PROCESSES FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

THIS WAS THEIR FIRST TIME.

SOME PEOPLE BROUGHT REALLY DEEP AND, AND LONG EXPERTISE IN HIS, EXCUSE ME, IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

OTHERS BROUGHT, BROUGHT REALLY RICH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS THE

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VERY NUTSHELL VERSION OF THE PLAN CREATION.

UM, I'M GONNA TALK TO Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT THE DRAFT PLAN, ALTHOUGH I WON'T GET INTO DETAILS.

I HOPE Y'ALL WILL REVIEW THE, THE PLAN.

THERE ARE 108 DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN.

UH, AND THOSE ARE ORGANIZED INTO THESE 14 GOALS.

AND I WON'T GO INTO INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS OR GOALS.

UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THESE ARE, ARE BROAD IN A VERY EXCITING WAY.

AND I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE, TAKE THE TIME TO, UM, TO REVIEW THE PLAN.

I'M GONNA SPEND JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES LOOKING AT THREE BUCKETS THAT WE DIVIDED THOSE GOALS INTO.

WHAT WE PRESERVE, WHO PRESERVES AND HOW WE PRESERVE.

SO WHAT WE PRESERVE, I THINK THE, THE THEME HERE IS TO THINK BROADLY TO RECOGNIZE THIS OUR CITY'S RICH AND COMPLEX HISTORY, UM, WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ALSO SOME INTERPRETATION THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DONE TO DATE AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

TO BETTER RECOGNIZE AND PROTECT CULTURAL HERITAGE, LIKE LEGACY BUSINESSES AND MURALS AND CR UH, CREATE NEW TOOLS FOR PRESERVING ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND TO USE PRESERVATION TOOLS TO SUPPORT OTHER COMMUNITY PRIORITIES LIKE DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.

THAT SECOND CATEGORY OR BUCKET, WHO PRESERVES, I WOULD SAY THE OVERARCHING IDEAS ARE TO INVITE AND SUPPORT.

SO TO HELP COMMUNITY MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN, IN DECISION MAKING PROCESSES AND GIVE THEM INFORMATION THEY NEED, UM, TO, TO BE ACTIVE AGENTS IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

TO STREAMLINE AND EXPLAIN WHAT WE DO AS THE CITY IN TERMS OF HISTORIC REVIEW AND DESIGNATION PROCESSES TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE WORK, CRAFTSPEOPLE, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF.

AND TO ENGAGE NEW PARTNERS AND AUDIENCES, BEGINNING WITH TRUSTED COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND HAVE REACHING OUT, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.

AND THE LAST CATEGORY IS HOW WE PRESERVE, I THINK THE THEMES HERE ARE TO BE STRATEGIC AND TO BE EFFECTIVE TO REALLY MODERNIZE OUR DESIGNATION CRITERIA IN A WAY THAT WILL LEAD TO HOPEFULLY MORE EQUITABLE DESIGNATION OF HISTORIC LANDMARKS AND DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY TO SUPPORT THE STEWARDS OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES, MOST OF WHOM ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, THROUGH AN EXPANDED SUITE OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THROUGH, UH, LOWERED FEES, FASTER REVIEW AND MORE INFORMATION, MORE AND BETTER INFORMATION TO BE STRATEGIC WITH THE REVIEW THAT WE ARE DOING AS STAFF TO IMPROVE ENFORCEMENT PROP, UH, PROCESSES AND TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN COLLABORATIVELY.

THAT IS A VERY FAST JOURNEY THROUGH THE DRAFT PLAN.

UM, I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THEN.

HA.

HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

SO WE ARE AT THE BEGINNING OF A FOUR MONTH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WINDOW.

THE PLAN WAS RELEASED FOR COMMUNITY REVIEW AND FEEDBACK ON FEBRUARY 6TH.

WE HAD A COMMUNITY KICKOFF EVENT, UH, LAST WEEK ON THE 13TH.

UM, WE WILL HAVE THREE MORE CITY HOSTED EVENTS THROUGH THE END OF MAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, WE REALLY, AND WE REALLY DO WANT TO HEAR FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THE DRAFT PLAN.

IT IS NOT A FINAL DOCUMENT.

WE'LL DO AN OPEN HOUSE IN MARCH, A BLOCK PARTY AT THE PRESERVATIONIST AUSTIN HOMES TOUR IN LATE APRIL.

AND THEN IN MAY, SORT OF PRESERVATION AND FRIENDS EVENT WHERE WE LOOK AT PRESERVATION AND AFFORDABILITY AND DENSITY AND HOW THEY INTERSECT IN A GROWING CITY.

WE ARE DOING PRESENTATIONS AT EXISTING MEETINGS.

UM, THIS IS ONE OF 14 BOARD AND COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS THAT I'M DOING.

WE ARE ALSO REACHING OUT TO COMMUNITY GROUPS TO PRESENT TO THEM.

UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDER ORGANIZATIONS TO ORGANIZE DEEP DIVES, LOOKING AT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UH, SPECIFICALLY PERTAIN TO THEM AND GETTING FEEDBACK RIGHT THEN.

AND ALSO WE'RE WORKING WITH A ISD TO LET THEIR PARENT SUPPORT SPECIALISTS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON SO THAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH FAMILIES IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND WE ARE ALSO DOING POP-UP OUTREACH AT COMMUNITY EVENTS, UM, EVERY MONTH, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND FOUR EVENTS PER MONTH WHERE WE JUST LIKE, UH, MAYBE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEY'RE INTERESTED TO COME TO A PRESERVATION PLAN EVENT, BUT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PLAN.

THAT IS OUR HOPE.

WE ARE REALLY FORTUNATE AND EXCITED TO BE PARTNERING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.

WE HAVE 10 PAID COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS WHO ARE REACHING OUT TO THEIR NETWORKS AND GETTING BOTH QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE FEEDBACK ON THE PLAN'S GOALS AND THE DRAFT PLAN ITSELF.

AND WE HAVE GIVEN, UH, MANY GRANTS TO FIVE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE THOSE, UH, LOGOS THERE.

UM, EAST AUSTIN CONSERVANCIES, THE ONE THAT'S NOT SPELLED OUT.

BUT THESE ARE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE LONGSTANDING COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY ARE DOING TABLING AND HOSTING EVENTS AND CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE DRAFT PLAN.

THEY'VE, WE HAD A COHORT MEETING THIS MORNING AND, UM, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING OUTREACH AND IT IS VERY EXCITING TO HEAR.

UM, OH, AND I SHOULD SAY THIS.

SO WE ARE, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE CITY.

BUT, UH, THE, THE, THESE PARTICULAR EFFORTS ARE AIMED AT REACHING HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

SO PUT ADDING ADDITIONAL

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RESOURCES TO THAT OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.

PEOPLE CAN GIVE FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT PLAN.

MANY WAYS.

WE HAVE, UM, SORT OF THE HARD COPIES OF THE PLAN.

WE HAVE THESE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AT EVERY BRANCH LIBRARY THAT PEOPLE CAN REVIEW.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A WEBSITE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO.

UM, THEY CAN DOWNLOAD A PDF ONLINE.

I THINK WHAT I THINK IS REALLY EXCITING IS THAT WE'RE USING A PLATFORM THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO JUMP TO THE GOALS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DIRECTLY AND PROVIDE DIRECT FEEDBACK ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YOU CAN SEE A SCREENSHOT FROM ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

PEOPLE CAN SAY, I REALLY SUPPORT THIS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME SHORT ANSWER QUESTIONS, UM, AT THE END OF EACH GOAL WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAY, WHY AREN'T YOU LOOKING AT THIS? YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD MAKE THIS CHANGE.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT MAKING IT EASY AND POSSIBLY FUN FOR PEOPLE TO DO THIS WILL, WILL RESULT IN, UM, IN SOME GOOD FEEDBACK.

WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY SURVEY.

WE HAVE IT IN, IN PAPER, WHICH WE'RE DOING, UM, WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO HAND OUT.

UH, AND IT'S ALSO ONLINE.

IT TAKES ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND IT REALLY LOOKS AT PEOPLE'S PRIORITIES.

IT DOESN'T GET INTO THE WEEDS.

IT USES VERY CLEAR LANGUAGE.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT'S KIND OF, UH, AN ENTRY POINT OR IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE DOING, THEY CAN DO THAT.

UM, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH AUSTIN ENERGY ALSO TO SEND THAT OUT, UM, TO A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY.

SO THAT'LL BE INTERESTING TO COMPARE.

UH, AND PEOPLE CAN ALSO, OF COURSE, COME TO COME TO EVENTS THAT THIS CITY HOSTS OR THAT, UH, THE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS HOST NEXT STEPS.

SO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT RUNS THROUGH THE END OF MAY.

UM, THE, WE WILL WORK WITH THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP IN THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TO REVISE THE DRAFT PLAN OVER THE SUMMER.

AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THE FALL FOR A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, HOPING TO BRING THE PLAN TO COUNCIL BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

ALTHOUGH BEFORE I ASK IF Y'ALL HAVE HAVE QUESTIONS, I JUST WANT TO, UM, EXHORT YOU IN A, UH, A CHEERFUL WAY TO LET, UH, PLEASE CHECK OUT THE DRAFT PLAN YOURSELVES.

PLEASE LET YOUR NETWORKS KNOW.

UM, IF THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE EVENTS YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE TABLING OR MEETINGS WHERE WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD COME AND PRESENT.

I'D BE REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THOSE.

COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.

UM, I GUESS ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, DOES THE PLAN HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT AVOIDING DISPLACEMENT? YES.

ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE PLAN IS TO STABILIZE COMMUNITIES, ONE OF THOSE 14 GOALS.

AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER THAT GOAL.

SOME OF THEM ARE VERY CLEAR, SOME OF THEM SAY, WE DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT, FOR EXAMPLE, SUPPORTING, UM, HEIRS PROPERTY OWNERS.

LIKE THERE'S NOT A CLEAR, UM, SOLUTION FOR THAT ISSUE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO WORK ON.

YEAH.

UM, 'CAUSE I WENT TO THE KICKOFF AND THE PROJECT CONNECT ANTI DISPLACEMENT MONEY WAS MENTIONED AT THE PLAN KICKOFF, AND YET THE WORDS ABOUT AVOIDING INCENTIVES FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WERE REMOVED FROM THE RESOLUTION, INITIATING THE E TODD ZONING ON FEBRUARY 1ST.

UM, WHICH TO ME SAYS THEY'RE FINE WITH DISPLACEMENT.

UM, USING THE WORD EQUITY, BOTH FOR E TODD AND THE EQUITY PRESERVATION PLAN DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING IF THE COUNCIL WON'T IMPLEMENT REAL AND MEANINGFUL CHANGES TO THE PRESERVATION PROCESS.

AND A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SORT OF LIKE, ADD MORE CRITERIA, CHANGE THE NUMBER OF REQUIRED CRITERIA, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU GET TO SAY IF YOU THINK YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE OR STRONGLY, UM, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY WHAT CRITERIA WOULD BE ADDED.

MM-HMM.

, UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S, THE GOALS ARE, YOU KNOW, SOUND GOOD, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY SPECIFY ENOUGH TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

AND OF COURSE IN THE END IT'LL BE UP TO THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHAT TO CHANGE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT IS CONSIDERED IMPORTANT, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET.

AND I WOULD SAY HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN AUSTIN IS WAY UNDERFUNDED.

SO I FEEL LIKE LETTING THE COMMUNITY DO ALL THIS WORK IS FINE.

BUT WHERE, WHERE ARE THE TEETH? YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW IS THIS REALLY GONNA GET IMPLEMENTED IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY CHANGES HOW PRESERVATION IS DONE? I, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO, TO ANSWER TO, UM, IN FULL.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT OUR HOPE IS THAT BY HAVING THIS BE A, A BROAD BASED COMMUNITY PROCESS TO DEVELOP THE DRAFT PLAN, AND HOPEFULLY BY DOING REALLY EFFECTIVE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT, WE ARE TALKING TO MORE PEOPLE ABOUT WHY PRESERVATION MATTERS,

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UM, IN A WAY THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE.

UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT CAN LEAD TO, UM, CHANGE, POTENTIALLY TO CHANGE.

YEAH.

THAT'S, SO THAT IS, THAT IS A HOPE.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, GO AHEAD.

UH, JUST WANNA COMMEND YOU ON WHAT SEEMS TO BE A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

AND UM, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORT.

I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

I I DEFINITELY WILL REVIEW IT.

AND I'M CURIOUS, UH, MAYBE TAILING ON COMMISSIONER GREENBERG'S COMMENTS, WHO ARE THE IMPLEMENTERS OF THE PLAN? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION AS FAR AS, UM, WHO, WHO SHOULD PICK THIS PLAN UP AND ACTUALLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING IT? YEAH, ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.

SO THIS IS A, A CITY OF AUSTIN PLAN.

SO I THINK THAT IS THE, THE PRIMARY IMPLEMENTERS ARE THE CITY.

LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S WHO WE CAN SAY WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS.

I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR, AND THE NEED FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AND IT IS, HAS UM, BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE PLAN.

AND I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT PART OF THE PROCESS OF REACHING OUT AROUND THE PLAN IS TO, TO DEEPEN EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS AND TO BUILD NEW PARTNERSHIPS AROUND ORGANIZATIONS THAT CARE ABOUT PRESERVATION AND ARE MAYBE DOING PRESERVATION WORK THAT IS PERHAPS NOT CALLED PRESERVATION, BUT UM, IN A WAY THAT, THAT WE CAN CAN WORK WITH TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.

EVEN AS WE ARE PRIMARILY SAYING THESE, THIS IS, THIS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE CITY OF AUSTIN PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP OF CITY STAFF THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS THAT INCLUDES, UM, 12 DEPARTMENTS WHOSE WORK TOUCHES PRESERVATION.

SO WELL, OUR HOPE IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM, UM, AND TO STRENGTHEN THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THE ONE COMMENT I HAD IS JUST YOU'D MENTIONED DISTRIBUTING IT OUT THROUGH AWESOME ENERGY.

UM, YOU'VE GOTTA REMEMBER THE NOT ALL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN AUSTIN ENERGY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, NOT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN ARE IN AUSTIN ENERGY.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, BUT MY ELECTRIC PROVIDER IS PEC MM-HMM.

NOT AUSTIN ENERGY.

SO, AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY THAT LIVE IN OTHER CITIES WHO GET ENERGY FROM BOSTON ENERGY.

SO IF YOU DO THAT, I'D ENCOURAGE IT.

GOOD IDEA.

JUST BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.

'CAUSE IT YOU MAY BE REACHING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T IN AUSTIN.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I, I THINK, UM, EVEN WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT A-I-S-D-I, WELL I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN AUSTIN AND SO I THINK WE'RE, WE ARE LOOKING AT AREAS OUT TOWARD THE MARGINS, UM, OUR HOPE IS TO REACH MOST PEOPLE.

UM, YEAH, I'M ABOUT AS MARGIN AS YOU CAN GET .

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE WE EXPECTING THE COMMISSION TO HAVE A RESPONSE.

NOT, NOT TONIGHT.

I'LL BE COMING BACK IN THE FALL FOR FORMAL RECOMMENDATION ON, ON THE REVISED PLAN.

SO REALLY TONIGHT, I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL ARE INTRIGUED, UH, ENOUGH TO LOOK AT THE DRAFT PLAN AND TO, TO TELL YOUR, YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND COLLEAGUES.

RIGHT.

AND AT THAT POINT, WILL SOME OF THE DETAILS BE MORE FLESHED OUT? I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO HEAR QUESTIONS THAT FOLKS HAVE.

NOW THE, THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP LOOKED AT A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION, WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE PLAN WEBSITE UNDER THE PLANNING PROCESS TABS.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS, LOTS OF DETAILS AND WE TRIED TO KEEP THE DRAFT PLAN SOMEWHAT PARED DOWN READABLE.

YEAH.

BUT IT IS HELPFUL TO, I THINK IT, IT, IT WILL BE HELPFUL IN GETTING THAT FEEDBACK TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR MORE OF.

UM, YEAH.

AND I, I THINK LIKE REGARDING YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON CRITERIA, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE ARE, THERE'S LOTS OF DETAIL IN ONE OF THE BACKGROUND BRIEFS.

IT'S JUST LIKE, HERE ARE ALL THE CRI HERE ARE CRITERIA THAT SAY 15 PEER CITIES USE FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE DRAFT PLAN FOR THOSE 26 PEOPLE HAVING HEARD FROM 300 PEOPLE, BUT LIKE IN A PROCESS THAT WAS COVERING A TON OF GROUND TO SAY HERE ARE THE 10 CRITERIA THAT WE NEED MOVING FORWARD.

SO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

UM, THAT MAY BE, UM, PART OF IMPLEMENTATION, MAYBE ANOTHER SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS WITH MORE STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, SO YES, PERHAPS MORE DETAILS, PERHAPS MORE PROCESSES.

PROBABLY A MIX OF BOTH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALRIGHT, ITEM

[6. Discussion and possible action establishing a working group tasked with providing recommendations regarding the Fiscal Year 24-25 Budget. (Sponsors: Vice-Chair Greenberg and Commissioner Stern)]

SIX, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

ESTABLISHING A WORKING GROUP TASKING WITH PROVIDE TASK WITH PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 BUDGET SPONSORS.

WERE VICE CHAIR

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GREENBERG AND COMMISSIONER STERN.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO WITH THIS ONE? UM, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BE PART OF THAT WORKING GROUP.

WE CAN, UM, GET OUT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET RECOMMENDATION, UM, AND SEE IF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE FOLLOWED.

IF WE WANNA REPEAT ANY OF THEM.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

I THINK IT'S STILL WANNA KNOW WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

YOU WANNA SEE HOW THE MONEY'S BEING SPENT.

UM, SO ANYBODY INTERESTED IN SERVING? I TRUST YOU GUYS ON THIS ONE.

YOU MEAN LONNIE? WE'LL, VOLUNTEER LONNIE TO BE ON THE WORKING GROUP.

YES.

RIGHT NOW I'M ASSUMING IT IS YOU AND LONNIE.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE? DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANNA JOIN? ANYBODY? WELL, WE'LL SEND OUT THE DRAFT OR, UM, LAST YEAR'S BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.

RIGHT? AND THEN PEOPLE MAY HAVE MORE TO SAY.

AND THEN, UM, I GUESS LONNIE, IF HE'S WILLING AND I CAN PUT TOGETHER A NEW DRAFT, WHICH AGAIN, UM, THE COMMISSION CAN RIGHT REVISE.

I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ON COMMITTEE REPORTS EACH TIME TOO, TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

YEAH.

I'LL GET WITH ANDREW AND MAKE SURE HE ADDS THAT INTO THE COMMITTEE REPORTS.

BUT I GUESS FOR NOW WE CAN JUST ASK ANDREW TO SHARE THE 20, 23 3 WHATEVER FISCAL YEAR.

YEAH, LAST YEAR'S.

LAST YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

LAST YEAR'S BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.

UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S A STARTING POINT.

OKAY.

PLAGIARIZE, , ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM SIX? WE HAVE TO VOTE TO HAVE? I DON'T THINK SO.

DID WE, DID WE CREATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE LAST TIME? NO.

PARDON ME.

CHAIR.

IF THIS IS A NEW WORKING GROUP, I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE AND ASSIGN MEMBERS TO IT.

I BELIEVE YOU MAKE A MOTION.

MAKE IT.

NO, BUT THAT WAS JUST TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.

A I FOLLOW WITH YOU LAST, BUT IF NOT, WE CAN DO IT THIS TIME.

YEAH.

HERE A SECOND.

ONE SECOND.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FLORES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

IT IS UNANIMOUS.

AND RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT COMMISSIONERS GREENBERG AND STERN ON THE COMMITTEE, AND IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO JOIN, THEY CAN.

AND WE'VE JUST ASKED ANDREW TO PROVIDE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET RESPONSE, UH, TO, TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEY CAN KIND OF START WITH, WITH THAT OR THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE COMMISSION AND THEY CAN START WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? NOT HEARING ANY CODES AND

[COMMITTEE REPORTS]

ORDINANCES.

JOINT COMMITTEE COMMISSIONER FLORES GREENBERGER STERN.

WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW.

THE ITEM WILL BE ON ONSITE WATER REUSE AND RECLAIM WATER CONNECTION REQUIREMENTS.

THAT'LL BE INTERESTING.

UH, COMPETENCY PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR PRESENTATIONS FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE BY CARRIE LANG ON THE BUDGET PROCESS AND INTEGRATED REQUESTS.

WE'RE GONNA HEAR A PRESENTATION BY THE CONSULTANT CDMP ON THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPETENCY PLAN UPDATES.

AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND THE IMAGINE OPTION PLAN TO ATTACH AN EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT EADS APOLOGIES AND MAP FROM ACCEPTED EOD POLICY PLAN.

SO THAT WILL BE ON OUR MEETING TOMORROW.

THAT'S AT FOUR O'CLOCK AT THE, UM, 63 10 WILLAMINA DELCO.

UM, ALL, I DID NOT HAVE THAT ON MY CALENDAR, UH, CHAIR, SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE SEEING THAT.

I, THERE'S BEEN NO FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, BUT I WENT ONLINE AND IT IS POSTED ONLINE FOR TOMORROW.

AND SO IT IS SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW.

I'VE GOT THE AGENDA FEBRUARY 21ST AT 4:00 PM SO, UM, I'M ASSUMING IT'S STILL ON.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE USUAL.

YOU GET A COUPLE OF EMAILS AHEAD OF TIME MAKING SURE THERE'S A CORNER.

I OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IT IS POSTED ONLINE AND SO I'M ASSUMING WE'RE GONNA BE THERE.

OKAY.

, I'M GLAD YOU SAID SO.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE COMMITTEE REPORTS.

? YES.

SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.

FLORES FLOYD IN GREENBURG.

WE HAD A MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO, COUPLE WEEKS AGO, FEBRUARY 7TH, UH, HAD A DISCUSSION AND UPDATE ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT COMBINING DISTRICT AND DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE COMMITTEE REPORTS? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

DON'T REALLY NEED ONE.

NOPE, WE'RE ADJOURN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

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