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[CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

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ORDER AT 6:04 PM WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL.

UH, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER STONE.

HERE, ROBINS HERE.

KARA GOTTI DAVIS.

THERE'S KAREN GOTTI.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER FARMER? HERE.

COMMISSIONER GARY? HERE.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER STI.

COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN.

OKAY.

I SEE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

WE HAVING SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN CONTINUE.

UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COM PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT? NO.

NOPE.

OKAY.

[1. Approve the minutes of the Resource Management Commission Regular Meeting on November 14, 2023.]

MOVING ON THEN.

UH, IN YOUR BOARD PACK, IN YOUR COMMISSION PACKAGE YOU RECEIVED, UH, TODAY, YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN COPIES OF THE MINUTES THAT ARE AWAITING YOUR APPROVAL FROM OUR NOVEMBER 14 MEETING.

UH, UM, TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT THEM AND, UH, I'LL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

SILVERSTEIN.

OKAY.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN.

SECONDED BY, I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER DAVIS THAT GOT IN THERE.

OH, NO, YOU'RE THERE.

HI THERE.

.

HI.

HI, COMMISSIONER GARY.

UM, OKAY.

UH, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? SO MOVED.

OKAY.

ON THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION AND, OH, SORRY.

ITEM NUMBER

[2. Recommend approving issuance of a capacity-based incentive to KMFA Station, for the installation of solar electric systems on their facilities located at 41 Navasota St, Austin, TX, 78702, in an amount not to exceed $80,676.]

TWO, RATHER ON OUR AGENDA RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED APPROVING ISSUANCE OF CAPACITY BASED INCENTIVE FOR KMFA STATION.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION QUESTION? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, A COMMENT IS MY FAVORITE RADIO STATION.

I LISTEN TO IT PRETTY MUCH ALL DAY LONG WHILE I'M WORKING.

UH, SO FOR NO OTHER REASON, WE SHOULD APPROVE IT.

OKAY.

UH, I HOPE, I HOPE THAT WHEN THEY BROADCAST, THEY WILL LET THEIR, UH, LISTENING AUDIENCE KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOW SOLAR POWERED.

DULY NOTED, SIR.

SO I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I SO MOVE.

CAN I CORRECT PLEASE? I'M SORRY.

I COULDN'T HEAR YOU, COMMISSIONER.

SO THE TIME QUESTION.

YES, GO AHEAD.

UM, HOW MUCH THIS SAYS THAT, THAT WE HAVE, THERE ARE A COUPLE PV ITEMS ON HERE AND WE'VE HANDLED SEVERAL MORE RECENTLY.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IF THERE IS A GOAL, AUSTIN ENERGY HAS A GOAL OF 200 MEGAWATTS OF LOCAL DISTRIBUTED PV CAPACITY.

HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TODAY? HEY, TIM.

THANK YOU.

TIM HARVEY, CUSTOMER RENEWABLE SOLUTIONS MANAGER.

UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 128 MEGAWATTS OF, UM, SOLAR INTERCONNECTED TODAY, AND THEN PROBABLY ANOTHER, UH, SEVEN IN THE PIPELINE.

THANK YOU.

AND WHILE YOU'RE STANDING THERE, WHAT'S THE SMALLEST SIZE OF THE PROJECT THAT IS BROUGHT TO THIS COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL? IF THE SPENDING EXCEEDS $74,000, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, AND, AND A YEAR, THEN WE BRING IT, SO A LOT OF THESE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS ARE FIVE YEAR, UM, PBI PAYMENTS BASED ON THE PRODUCTION OF THE SYSTEM.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TOTAL MIGHT BE OVER THAT SPENDING LIMIT OVER THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

WE ONLY BRING THEM TO THIS COMMISSION IF THE ANNUAL SPEND IS OVER THE THRESHOLD OF 74,000.

THANK YOU.

AND LAST QUESTION IS THE, WHAT IS THE DOLLAR VALUE OF THE INCENTIVE TO COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ON A PER KW BASIS? THE SAME AS THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.

FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, UM, RECEIVING THE, UH, PERFORMANCE BASED INCENTIVE, IT'S A PER A CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR VALUE.

AND THAT VARIES BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEM.

UM, SO THAT'S THAT.

I MEAN, YOU COULD BACK INTO AN ESTIMATE FOR WHAT THAT WOULD BE ON A, UM,

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KW BASIS.

UM, FOR CAPACITY BASED INCENTIVES FOR NONPROFITS, IT'S 90 CENTS A WATT.

AND FOR FOR PROFITS FOR SYSTEMS UNDER 75 KW THEY CAN ALSO GET THE CAPACITY BASED INCENTIVE.

UM, AND I'M NOT POSITIVE WHAT THAT IS RIGHT NOW.

IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN ADJUSTED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT ONE, BUT I THINK IT, IT IS 55 CENTS A LOT.

AND DOES AUSTIN ENERGY HAVE AN ANNUAL CAP ON THE POT OF PV INCENTIVE PAYMENTS? WHEN, WHEN WE COMMIT TO A PERFORMANCE BASED INCENTIVE, UM, IT'S FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS.

IT USED TO BE 10 YEARS, NOW IT'S FIVE YEARS.

AND SO WE, UM, COMMIT TO PAYING FOR EACH KILOWATT HOUR AT THE INCENTIVIZED RATE FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF PRODUCTION.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? KIND OF.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF AT SOME POINT, GIVEN ALL THE INCENTIVE APPLICATIONS, Y'ALL ARE GONNA RUN OUTTA BUDGET.

WELL, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, BUDGET FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE EXPECT TO SPEND IN THE PBI AND THE NATURE OF THE PBI IS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME PBIS THAT WE ISSUED ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO THAT ARE ST THAT WE'RE STILL PAYING.

UM, AND WE HAVE PBIS THAT WE ISSUED BEFORE THAT THAT HAVE ROLLED OFF AND, YOU KNOW, NEW ONES.

SO IT'S ALWAYS KIND OF EVOLVING, BUT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS, AND SO WE CAN DO OUR BUDGET PROJE PROJECTIONS BY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ESTIMATING WHAT THAT SPEND WILL BE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TIM, AND THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, AGAIN, I MOVE APPROVAL.

UH, I DID SEE COMMISSIONER DAVIS, I THINK WAIVE A HANDS.

I WANTED TO CHECK WITH HER AND MAKE SURE THAT SHE HAD A QUESTION OR IF I JUST MISSED SAW .

NO QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHTY.

UH, SO THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROBBINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? I DID NOT SEE WHO SECOND.

I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN THAT GOT IN THERE.

YES.

OKAY.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR, WE DO NEED TO HAVE YOUR CAMERAS ON FOR ROLL CALL.

VOTE, UH, COMM, UH, STONE VOTES? YES.

ROBINS? YES.

KARA GOTTI.

YES.

DAVIS? YES.

YES.

FARMER? YES.

GARY? YES.

JOHNSON? YES.

SILVERSTEIN? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

CARRIE'S EIGHT ZERO.

[3. Recommend approving issuance of a capacity-based incentive to Kensington Apartments, LLC, for the installation of solar electric systems on their facility located at 3300 Manor Rd Austin, TX, 78723, in an amount not to exceed $184,802.]

WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE IN THE AGENDA.

RECOMMENDING APPROVED ISSUANCE OF A CAP, CAPA A CAPACITY BASED INITIATIVE TO KENSINGTON APARTMENTS.

UM, YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKAGES IN FRONT OF YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS ONE OR IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITS BEHALF HAVE? IF NOT I AM.

I CAN SPEAK TO IT.

VERY GOOD.

YEAH.

UM, IF NOT, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

SO MOVE.

THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS BY COMMISSIONER ROBBINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND SILVERSTEIN COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN.

SECONDS.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

UH, STONE VOTES.

SNOW? NO.

UH, ROBINS? YES.

KARA GOTTI.

WE SAW HER FACE, BUT WE DID NOT HEAR A VOTE.

I'M HAVING A PROBLEM.

YES.

OKAY.

UH, DAVIS? YES.

YES.

FARMER? YES.

GARY? NO.

JOHNSON? YES.

SILVERSTEIN? YES.

OKAY.

THAT ONE CARRIES ON A VOTE OF FIVE TO THREE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR IN THE AGENDA.

UH, WE HAVE REC, SORRY, FIVE TO THREE? YES.

OKAY.

WHO WERE THE NOS? UH, GARY, YOURSELF AND I DON'T REMEMBER.

I JUST DID A LITTLE HASH MARK.

WHO ELSE WROTE IT? NO, IT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS

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JUST TWO.

OKAY.

AND IF SO, THEN IT DOESN'T PASS.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S THE SECOND THING THAT HIT ME IS THAT IF IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE NUMBER OF QUORUM, RIGHT.

AND SIX WOULD BE THE QUORUM.

CORRECT.

SO IF WE HAVE SEVEN OR EIGHT, SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN.

OKAY.

FIVE COMMISSIONERS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IT DOES NOT PASS.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

SO THAT WOULD MAKE IT, I'VE GOT EIGHT THAT HAVE CHECKED IN EIGHT.

I'VE GOT STONE ROBINS, CAROTTI, DAVIS FARMER, GARY JOHNSON, AND SILVERSTEIN.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO IT DOES PASS FIVE TO THREE.

SIX TWO.

SIX TO TWO.

I STILL THINK I HEARD A THIRD, BUT OKAY.

SIX TO TWO IS FINE.

YOU WANT IT TO FAIL SO BADLY? , I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M ONLY AN ACCOUNTANT.

I'M NOT THAT GOOD.

ACCOUNTING.

THAT'S FINE.

ALRIGHTY.

UM,

[4. Recommend approving issuance of an incentive to the Texas Solar Energy Society for their Pathways Pilot Program to demonstrate how Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program funding can be applied to solar installations in Austin Energy service territory, in an amount not to exceed $90,000.]

SO MOVING ON NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDING APPROVED RECOMMENDED APPROVING ISSUANCE OF AN INCENTIVE TO TEXAS SOLAR ENERGY SOCIETY.

UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THIS ONE? OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND 12TH TIME.

OKAY.

UH, MOTION WAS BY COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROBBINS.

UH, ROLL CALL VOTE.

COMMISSIONER STONE WILL VOTE.

YES.

ROB ROBINS? YES.

KARA GOTTI.

S DAVIS? YES.

FARMER? YES.

GARY? YES.

JOHNSON? YES.

SILVERSTEIN? YES.

OKAY.

UM, I REALIZED THAT WE ARE, WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE HOURS, BUT, UM, WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TEXAS SOLAR ENERGY SOCIETY HERE, AND SINCE THEIR WORK, UH, COINCIDES WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO, UM, WOULD WE HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES THAT SHE COULD JUST TELL US ABOUT THEIR, THEIR WORK IN AUSTIN AND TEXAS? I DID OFFER BEFORE WE TOOK THE VOTE FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ON IT, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT, SHE'S GOOD.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME.

OKAY.

KEEP CALLING.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

[5. Recommend approving issuance of a performance-based incentive to Starwood Capital Group LLC, for the installation of solar electric systems on their facilities shown in the table below, in an amount not to exceed $2,142,861.70.]

MOVING ON TO NUMBER FIVE IN OUR AGENDA.

RECOMMENDED APPROVING ISSUANCE AND PERFORMANCE BASED INCENTIVE FOR STARWOOD CAPITAL GROUP.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS OR IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? THIS IS SILVERSTEIN WITH A QUESTION.

PLEASE.

YES, GO AHEAD.

THE INCENTIVE RATES FOR THE SEVEN PROJECTS DIFFER, AND I'M WONDERING WHY THAT IS.

IT'S BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE VARYING RATES FOR DIFFERENT SYSTEM SIZES IN GENERAL.

UM, THE BIGGER SYSTEMS HAVE A REDUCED RATE BECAUSE CUSTOMERS ARE GETTING ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? MS. DAVIS WAS THE QUESTION? YES.

UM, THIS ONE IS IN QUITE A LARGE AMOUNT, 2.1 MILLION.

UM, IN THE FISCAL NOTE INDICATES THAT THERE'S FUNDING IN THIS FISCAL FOUR 28,572.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ONE FIFTH OF THE TOTAL.

UM, IS IS THE ASSUMPTION THAT EQUIVALENT FUNDING WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE IN THE SUBSEQUENT BUDGETS? THAT'S CORRECT.

WHEN WE'RE FORMING THE COMMERCIAL BUDGET, WE LOOK AT, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE SYSTEMS THAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO PERFORMANCE BASED INCENTIVES ON, AND THEN CALCULATE WHAT THE ESTIMATED SPEND WOULD BE IF THOSE SYSTEMS PERFORM TO FULL EXPECTATION.

UM, SO, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH BUDGETED EVERY YEAR TO COVER THOSE COSTS.

AND THEN, UM, FOR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT MAY COME ON DURING

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THAT YEAR.

THANK YOU.

I WILL RAISE A QUESTION THAT I'VE HAD WHEN I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS ONE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY A COMPANY WITH $115 BILLION UNDER MANAGEMENT FEELS THAT THEY NEED TO COME TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND ITS RATE PAYERS FOR THIS MONEY? MY BEST GUESS IS TO MAKE THE ECONOMICS WORK.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I SEE A RAISED HAND OR SOMETHING THERE.

I CAN'T SEE WHAT THAT TEXT IS.

OH, IT JUST SAYS JOIN THE CALL.

SHE MUST HAVE LOST HER CONNECTION.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD ARGUE THAT OF IN STUDIES THAT I HAVE SEEN, UM, VERY LARGE CORPORATIONS WILL OFTENTIMES NOT MAKE AN INVESTMENT WITH PAYBACK OF MORE THAN A YEAR OR TWO.

UH, IT'S EXTREMELY SHORTSIGHTED, BUT THAT IS THE WAY THEY WORK.

UH, THAT WOULD, IF, IF I REALIZE THAT THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION THAT WOULD, WOULD, UH, UH, ANSWER YOUR CONCERNS, BUT THAT IS, UH, WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED, UH, IN, IN MY OWN RESEARCH.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

I MEAN, MY CONCERN BASICALLY IS, IS AUSTIN HAS HOW MANY CURRENT HOUSEHOLDS TIED INTO THE SYSTEM? IS IT 200, 200,000? WELL, FOUR 80,000.

OKAY.

SO LET'S CALL IT 400 TO KEEP OUR MATH EASY.

SO BASICALLY HUNDRED 60,000.

BUT YOU'RE ASKING EVERY RATE PAYER TO GIVE ABOUT FIVE BUCKS A YEAR TO GO INTO THIS PROJECT FOR PEOPLE THAT OWN A BUNCH OF HOTEL PROPERTIES.

SO I UNDERSTAND I'M A LONE WOLF.

IT IS MY PERSONAL GRIPE AND CROSS TO BEAR, BUT THIS IS WHY I ALWAYS VOTE NO ON THINGS FOR, FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE IT IS TAKING MONEY FROM RATE PAYERS AIMING IT TO PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING OUT OF THEIR OWN SENSE OF CIVIC AND CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY.

THE, UH, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SET .

AND, AND THE THEORY BEHIND, UH, REBATES IS THAT THEY, UH, BUY CAPACITY AT LESS THAN THE COST OF, UH, GETTING IT ELSEWHERE.

UM, WATER TREATMENT PLANTS ARE EXPENSIVE, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

I'M NOT BELITTLING IT.

MM-HMM.

, I'M JUST POINTING OUT THE OTHER SIDE.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER? FURTHERMORE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE ARE GOING TO STAND BEHIND AUSTIN'S AUSTIN ENERGY'S COMMITMENT TO BRING ON AS MUCH SOLAR AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, EVEN RICH GUY'S, PV IS GONNA HELP.

AND, AND THE MORE WE GET, THE SOONER THE BETTER IN TERMS OF MEETING AUSTIN'S GOALS.

SO WHILE I PHILOSOPHICALLY APPRECIATE YOUR RESISTANCE TO GIVING RICH GUYS INCENTIVES TO BUILD PV THAT THEY OUGHT TO BE DOING ANYWAY, IT'S A PRACTICAL MATTER, THEY'LL COME ONLINE QUICKLY.

YEAH.

AND I'M FULLY AWARE OF THAT, WHICH IS WHY I ALWAYS JUST KIND OF PLAY THE LONE WOLF.

NO VOTE.

I'M FINE WITH IT.

WE ALL KNOW OUR ROLES.

.

UH, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, OTHERWISE I'LL BE LOOKING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

SO MOVE.

THERE'S BEEN A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ROBBINS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SILVERSTEIN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN.

SO WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE, UH, STONE VOTE.

SNOW ROBINS? YES.

KARA GOTTI.

ADE DAVIS.

YES.

FARMER? YES.

GARY? NO.

JOHNSON.

VERY RELUCTANTLY VOTE YES.

SILVERSTEIN? YES.

OKAY.

HOLDING MY NOSE ON A FIVE TO TWO.

WHERE, WHERE DID, UH, MCC GOTTI'S OFF THE DESK AS DO WE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES? MM-HMM.

, PARDON ME ABOUT? YES.

OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

ON THE 62 VOTE.

THIS PASSES.

MOVING

[Items 6 & 7 (Part 1 of 2)]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER AMENDING CITY CODE CHAPTER 25 DASH NINE.

UM, I AM GOING TO ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY'S

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ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT TO US OR .

IT WAS A LOT OF READING, SO I'M REALLY HOPING SOMEBODY CAN GIVE ME A CLIFFSNOTES VERSION TO BE ENTIRELY FRANK.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

KEVIN CRITTENDEN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH AUSTIN WATER.

AND, UH, I'LL DO MY BEST.

UM, I GUESS THE SHORT VERSION WOULD BE, UM, THROUGH OUR WATER FORWARD, UM, LONG-TERM, UH, WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

WE HAD ENVISIONED, UH, BRINGING FORWARD A VARIETY OF CODES AND ORDINANCES ASSOCIATED WITH ENHANCING OUR REUSE ONSITE REUSE PROGRAM.

UH, COUNCIL APPROVED THAT INITIAL SET OF CHANGES TO LDC, UM, 25 DASH NINE BACK IN 2001, WHICH SET UP A VOLUNTARY PERIOD FOR PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

THIS PARTICULAR ACTION WILL, UM, FURTHER CLARIFY AND CODIFY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGE DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN 500 FEET OF OUR RECLAIMED SYSTEM TO CONNECT TO THE RECLAIMED SYSTEM OR OTHERWISE BUILD ONSITE REUSE SYSTEMS. IT WILL ALSO CODIFY THE REQUIREMENT TO, FOR SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN 250 FEET OF OUR RECLAIMED SYSTEM TO CONNECT TO THAT SYSTEM AND USE IT.

SO THAT'S IT.

AT A HIGH LEVEL, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY INFORMATION.

UH, I ALSO HAVE, UH, SEVERAL FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE TO HELP ME IF I NEED TO PHONE A FRIEND.

MR. ROBINSON, I, UH, SENT YOU A A FEW QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, CORRECT.

IN THE HOPE THAT, UH, YOU'D BE PREPARED AND WE COULD EXPEDITE IT.

BUT, UM, I AM, UH, CONFUSED BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UH, IF, IF THERE IS AN ORDINANCE IN EFFECT, UH, WHY WOULD WE BE GIVING REBATES? I MEAN, IS THIS JUST LIKE A PILOT AND THEN ONCE PEOPLE GET USED TO IT, IT'S MANDATED? UH, I, I MEAN PLEASE UN CONFUSE ME.

OKAY.

, UM, AGAIN, KEVIN CRITTENDEN, UM, BASICALLY IN OUR POLICY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE HAVE LOOKED AT, UM, THE RELATIVE VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH OUR, TO OUR OVER OUR BENEFIT TO OUR OVERALL WATER SUPPLY AND HAVING THESE PEOPLE CONNECT.

AND SO THEREFORE, WE'RE TAKING A BIT OF A DIFFERENT APPROACH WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY, UM, OFFERING COST PARTICIPATION FOR CERTAIN OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO CONNECT TO OUR SYSTEM.

SO IT BECOMES A BIT OF A PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATION, UM, ABOUT TRYING TO GAIN ADOPTION AND TRYING TO USE, YOU KNOW, UM, CERTAIN FINANCIAL, UM, PARTICIPATION TO GAIN THAT ADOPTION AND TRY TO, UM, INCENTIVIZE FOLKS TO CONNECT.

RIGHT.

BUT THERE'S, UH, AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE WITHIN 500 FEET, AND WE'LL BE VOTING ON THAT.

UH, BUT THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IF YOU'RE NEXT TO RECLAIM WATER, UH, UH, YOU HAVE TO HOOK UP AGAIN IN THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

UM, WE'VE HAD TO WEIGH THAT OUT AGAINST AFFORDABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH FOLKS CONNECTING TO THE SYSTEM AND THE COST IMPACTS OF THAT FOR, UM, HOUSING AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT AFFORDABILITY.

AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN TO, UM, DEVELOP ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES TO HAVE PEOPLE CONNECT.

THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE COMPLEX.

SO THE SPECIFIC ACTION RELATIVE TO ITEM NUMBER, I LOST COUNT NUMBER SIX, I BELIEVE.

THANK YOU.

UM, IS REALLY JUST TO ADOPT THE CHANGES TO 25 DASH NINE.

SO IT'S NOT ABOUT A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PER SE, IT'S ABOUT CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ENABLES THESE REQUIREMENTS.

THERE IS IN THAT LANGUAGE SPECIFIC EXEMPTIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRO PROJECTS.

SO PROJECTS THAT DO MEET, UM, UH, AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED AND PROGRAMMATICALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THOSE WILL BE EXEMPTED UNDER THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, I UNDERSTAND GETTING SOMETHING STARTED AND THERE'S KINKS AND PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS CORRECTLY,

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AND I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT AT SOME POINT, IF THIS IS REQUIRED, UH, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

I WILL TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT.

WELL, I MEAN, IS IT, WILL THIS GO ON INDEFINITELY? I MEAN, IF IT'S IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, I WILL, WILL AUSTIN WATER BE COMING BACK YEAR AFTER YEAR, UH, ASKING THAT THE, THESE, UH, AMOUNTS BE, UH, EXTENDED FOR ANOTHER YEAR? I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THE, UM, ADOPTION AND CONNECTIONS OVER TIME.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE KIND OF THE SUCCESS IN THAT EXERCISE AND CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF OUR OVERALL STRATEGY.

UM, LOU COMMISSIONER STONE, I, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME NOT SIDING WITH YOU ON THIS ONE, .

UM, I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT THIS YEAR, BUT IF I'M HERE A YEAR FROM NOW, OR IF I'M ACTIVE A YEAR FROM NOW, UH, I CAN'T SAY I'LL DO IT AGAIN.

AND IF I MIGHT, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT, JUST TO PUT SOME CONTEXT WITH IT, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

ONE IS TO BASICALLY APPROVE THE SETTING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHANGES TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM THAT I WAS TRYING TO SPEAK TO.

UM, THE SECOND ITEM I THINK SPECIFICALLY GOES TO, UM, COMMISSIONER ROBBINS POINT RELATIVE TO REAUTHORIZING OUR GRANT INCENTIVE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S THE SECOND ACTION ITEM.

AND YOUR THIRD RCA IS RELATED TO, DID I GET THAT RIGHT? UH, I, I, I, LET ME RESTATE THAT.

THE SECOND ITEM IS CHANGES TO, UM, CITY CODE 1513, WHICH IS OUR REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR ONSITE SYSTEMS. SO THAT'S THE SECOND ITEM.

THE THIRD ITEM IS TO REAUTHORIZE THE FINANCIAL PARTICIPATION PIECE.

SO SORRY FOR THAT LACK OF CLARITY.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHERE I WAS GETTING A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE PAUL WAS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT TWO OF THE THREE AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THAT'S WHY I KEPT FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO SEE WHAT IT WAS I WAS LOOKING AT.

AND I'M, AS MUCH AS I'M UNCONFUSED NOW, UM, I STAND BY WHAT I SAID, I WILL VOTE FOR IT THIS YEAR, BUT IF THIS IS REQUIRED, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE REAUTHORIZING THIS EVERY YEAR, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? YES, SILVERSTEIN, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

SO I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, UM, NUMBER SEVEN.

IS IT SIX? WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A, A LARGE DEVELOPMENT CONNECTING, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY ARE CONNECTING TO THE WATER SYSTEM OR IS THIS ALSO REQUIRING, IS THERE SOME CITY RECLAIMED WATER CONNECTION SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE TO CONNECT TO? OR IS THIS SOLELY APPLYING TO REUSE OF WATER ON THE SITE? SO COMMISSIONER WOULD, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY BOTH.

ONE OF THE ASPECTS WOULD BE FOR LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH IS DEFINED AS, UH, DEVELOPMENT OVER 250,000, UM, SQUARE FEET, THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN 500 FEET OF OUR RECLAIM SYSTEM.

SO YES MA'AM, WE DO HAVE A CENTRALIZED RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM THAT, UM, PROVIDES WATER, UM, NON-POTABLE WATER THROUGH CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR CITY.

SO IF YOU'RE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONNECT.

IT ALSO REQUIRES, INSTEAD, IF YOU'RE BEYOND 500 FEET, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, UM, DEVELOP AN ONSITE REUSE SYSTEM INSTEAD.

YEAH.

IS THE GOAL, IF YOU ARE INSIDE THE 500 FEET, IS THE GOAL TO GET THEM TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR RECLAIMED WATER INTO THE CITY SYSTEM? OR IS IT TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF RECLAIMED WATER, THEIR OWN WATER THAT

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THEY'RE RECLAIMING AND USING ON SITE? SEEMS TO ME THAT THE LATTER WOULD BE MORE DESIRABLE.

I'M AFRAID.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO REPEAT YOUR QUESTION.

IF I AM A SAMSUNG AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF RECLAIMED WATER, DO YOU WANT ME THROUGH THIS TO, OR A NEW MEGA HOUSING DEVELOPMENT? ARE YOU ASKING ME TO TAKE MY, TO RE DO YOU HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW MUCH WATER AND WHAT KINDS I HAVE TO RECLAIM AND DOES ALL OF THAT SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THE AUSTIN RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM? OR DO YOU WANT ME TO MAXIMIZE MY USE OF THE RECLAIMED WATER ON MY SITE AND ONLY GIVE YOU THE LEFTOVER OR ONLY CONSUME WHAT I DON'T NEED FOR ON SITE? I WOULD SAY THE HIGHEST LEVEL FIGURE OUT WHETHER THIS IS ABOUT WHAT DO YOU DOING TO, TO MAXIM TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO MAXIMIZE ITS USE OF THEIR OWN RECLAIMED WATER FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES, RATHER THAN IMPLYING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP GROWING THE SYSTEM CITY'S RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM BECAUSE FOLKS HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE, BUT THEY AREN'T DOING ENOUGH ON THEIR OWN SITE.

I, I WOULD ANSWER THAT BY SAYING OUR GOAL IS ULTIMATELY TO TRY TO ADOPT A MORE FIT FOR PURPOSE, FIT FOR USE APPROACH WHEREIN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO ADOPT THE USE OF NON-POTABLE SOURCES FOR NON-POTABLE DEMANDS.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL LONG TERM, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR A HUNDRED YEAR, UH, WATER FORWARD PLAN.

UM, AND SO, UM, I, I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, IN EITHER CASE, IF YOU'RE WITHIN A REASONABLE DISTANCE OF THE RECLAIM SYSTEM, IT MAKES SENSE TO USE THAT AS A RESOURCE AS IT IS AVAILABLE.

UM, IF YOU'RE BEYOND THAT AND YOU ARE A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS TO START TO DEVELOP ONSITE NON-POTABLE SOURCES OF WATER TO OFFSET POTABLE NEEDS.

HAVE YOU ALREADY DEVELOPED THE ENTIRETY OF THE, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR YOUR ONSITE WATER REUSE PROGRAM? SO THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS OUR, UM, UM, ONSITE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, WE ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO IT AS IT'S A FAIRLY NEW PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WANTING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO CHAPTER 1513 TO CODE.

AND THE, IF YOU LOOK ON THE SCREEN AT THE MOMENT, NOVEMBER 9TH, 2023, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE TO DEFER THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR ONSITE WATER REUSE REQUIREMENTS.

DOES THAT, DOES ITEM SEVEN ADDRESS THE NOVEMBER NINE DEFERRAL, OR WHAT ELSE IS REQUIRED TO GET THIS SUCKER BACK IN GEAR? SO THE DEFERRAL IS, I THINK MOST EXPLICITLY RELATED TO ITEM SIX, BUT THERE ARE SOME RELATED CHANGES THAT ARE REFLECTED IN ITEM SEVEN.

AND IF THIS COMMISSION WERE TO VOTE TO APPROVE THESE BOTH SIX AND SEVEN, WOULD THAT FULFILL THE ENTIRETY OF THIS DEFERRAL? I BELIEVE SO.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

I WILL OFFER, THIS IS A BIT AWKWARD IN THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THE, THE PRESENTATION THAT'S ON THE LATER PART OF THE AGENDA THAT MAY HELP ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN.

WE, WE, WE THANK YOU FOR INDULGING THE COMMISSION.

NO, I, MY APOLOGIES.

WILL THESE REBATES, COMMISSIONER ROBBINS, I'M SORRY, WILL THESE REBATES, UH, BE GIVEN TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE 500 FOOT RADIUS AND NOT INSIDE? IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE ON THE SYSTEM AND THEY'RE REQUIRED AT 500 BUT NOT REQUIRED PAST 500, THEN MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE MORE ECONOMIC SENSE TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THAT RADIUS.

UH, ARE THESE REBATES INTENDED FOR THAT? SO AT THIS POINT, THE INCENTIVES ARE ENVISIONED TO APPLY TO BOTH HELP EX TO EITHER HELP EXTEND CONNECTION TO THE RA RECLAIMED SYSTEM OR TO BE USED TO HELP INCENTIVIZE ONSITE REUSE DEVELOPMENT,

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BUT THERE'S NO RADIUS REQUIREMENT, NOT IN THAT CASE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

REGARDING THE, UM, RECLAIMED, UH, THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, UH, TO HAVE ONSITE REUSE, UM, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA WORK IN FIVE YEARS IF THEY'RE CONNECTED TO A, UH, RECLAIMED WATERLINE? UH, AUSTIN WATER'S GONNA KNOW IF IT WORKS OR NOT.

IF THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT TAKE ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE, UH, LET THEIR SYSTEMS LAPSE, UH, HOW ARE WE GONNA KNOW? SO THE PROTOCOL FOR ONSITE SYSTEMS WILL MANDATE IN ESSENCE THAT ONSITE SYSTEM OWNERS AND OPERATORS CONTINUE TO USE THEM AND KEEP THEIR PERMITS ACTIVE.

UM, THAT'S SORT OF THE HIGHEST LEVEL VERSION OF THAT.

IS THERE SOME ONE OR SOME PEOPLE, ARE THERE PEOPLE AT AUSTIN WATER THAT WILL, UH, MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THESE SYSTEMS ARE OPERATING? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE AN ONSITE REUSE TEAM.

ACTUALLY, CATHERINE JASINSKI, WHO WAS WHISPERING THE RIGHT ANSWERS IN MY EAR EARLIER, UM, IS THE SUPERVISOR OVER THAT TEAM.

UM, AND SO YES, THE ANSWER TO THAT, THEY WILL BE, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT REVIEW PERMITS.

THEY ARE THE, THE FOLKS THAT LOOK AT WATER USE, UM, BENCHMARKING CALCULATIONS.

THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE, UH, PERMITTING THE SYSTEMS AND MAKE MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS, UM, MAINTAIN THEIR PERMITS IN GOOD STEAD.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I SEE COMMISSIONER KARA GOTTI'S WAVING A HAND.

HEY THERE.

UH, I JUST HAVE A KIND OF A GENERAL STATEMENT.

SO THIS WHOLE THING, 'CAUSE I'M GOING IN AND OUT TECHNOLOGY HERE, THIS WHOLE PROGRAM TO JUST GET MORE PEOPLE TO, UH, ON THIS PROGRAM FOR USE OF WATER AND WASTEWATER.

ARE WE JUST TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE MORE PEOPLE TO, UH, DO THIS RECLAIMED WATER? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I JUST NEEDED A CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER FARMER.

IS IT, UM, SO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ARE EXEMPTED FROM THIS PROGRAM.

IF YOU'RE, IF THE INTENTION IS TO GET MORE PEOPLE ON IT AND YOU'RE ALREADY OFFERING INCENTIVES, DID YOU LOOK AT OFFERING BETTER INCENTIVES OR LIKE COVERING THE FULL COST OF IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS RATHER THAN DROPPING THEM OR ALLOWING THEM TO DROP THE PROGRAM? SO AT THIS POINT, AND THIS IS THROUGH OUR CONSULTATION WITH, UM, HOUSING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ELECTED AT THIS POINT TO EXEMPT THOSE LARGE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, HOWEVER THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, YOU KNOW, IN OUR GRANT OR, UM, INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE HOPE, THE WAY THAT WE WOULD GET TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE PROCESS.

SO IS THE, IS THE INCENTIVE, I'M ASSUMING THE INCENTIVE WOULDN'T COVER THE FULL COST OF THE SYSTEM? THAT'S CORRECT.

AS IT'S CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED.

OKAY.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? YES, SIR.

SILVERSTEIN, GO AHEAD.

IS THERE, THANK YOU.

IS THERE, GOING BACK TO QUESTIONS THAT, THAT COMMISSIONER ROBBINS WAS ASKING, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, DOES ITEM SIX OR ANY OF THE SUBSEQUENT ITEMS ON THIS TOPIC, UM, COVER, IS THERE A SEPARATE INCENT, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE INCENTIVES FOR AN ONSITE SYSTEM AND THE INCENTIVES FOR CONNECTING TO THE CITY SYSTEM? IF YOU ARE WITHIN RANGE, WHICH AS COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER ROBBINS NOTED CONNECTION, IF YOU ARE WITHIN RANGE, APPEARS TO BE MANDATORY, RIGHT? SO WHY DO WE NEED TO INCENT THAT? IS THAT INCENTIVE IS, IS THERE SUCH AN INCENTIVE FOR CONNECTION? AND IS THAT COVERED UNDER THE SAME TERMS WITHIN THIS OR ANY OF THE OTHER VOTING ITEMS ON THIS TOPIC? SO AT THIS POINT, THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES WOULD BE AUTHORIZED UNDER ITEM NUMBER, HOLD ON, UNDER ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

AND SO THAT DOES ALLOW FOR PAYING FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR EITHER CONNECTION OR, UM, ONSITE REUSE.

SO THEN IS THIS ITEM ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT AND THIS, AND ONE OF THOSE LATER ITEMS IS ABOUT THE MONEY?

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I HAVE.

I'VE, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THESE A COUPLE TIMES AND I STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THESE VARIOUS ITEMS. I'M SORRY TO BE STUPID ON THIS, BUT NO, THAT, THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.

BUT IF I COULD GET YOU TO ASK YOUR QUESTION AGAIN THOUGH, FOR ME, UM, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THESE FOUR VOTING ITEMS ON THE WATER CODE AND, AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER ITEM SIX IS ABOUT CREATING THE REQUIREMENT.

ITEM SEVEN IS ABOUT PAYING INCENTIVES TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENT.

FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN AND EXPLAIN OR CORRECT ME AT ANY POINT HERE.

SO I'LL, I'LL TRY TO NARRATE IT AND I THINK THE DIRECTION YOU WERE HEADED, BUT, UH, JUST ASK AGAIN IF I'M NOT HITTING IT.

ITEM SIX IS SPECIFICALLY TO ADOPT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES NECESSARY TO, UM, CLARIFY THE REQUIREMENTS TO CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM, TO THE RECLAIM SYSTEM AND OR DEVELOP AN ONSITE REUSE SYSTEM FOR LARGE DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT ITEM SIX IS ABOUT.

ITEM SEVEN IS TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO, UH, CITY CODE CHAPTER 1513, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK BY WHICH ONSITE SYSTEMS ARE PERMITTED.

AND ITEM EIGHT

[8. Recommend approval of a resolution authorizing Austin Water (AW) to continue a pilot program and issue incentives on a pilot basis during Fiscal Year 2023-2024 for alternative Onsite Water Reuse Systems or Reclaimed Water Connections for new commercial and multi-family developments under AW’s new regulatory framework in the total aggregate amount of $5,600,000 and not to exceed $500,000 for each project subject to funding availability. (Part 1 of 2)]

IS TO REAUTHORIZE OUR EXISTING PILOT GRANT PROGRAM TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE.

OKAY.

AND IT IS A PILOT AND ONLY A PILOT? YES, MA'AM.

WELL, YES, BUT THIS HAS GONE ON FOR A COUPLE YEARS, HASN'T IT? SO THE PILOT PROGRAM WAS INITIALLY ADOPTED IN 2001 21, EXCUSE ME.

2021.

UM, IT HAS ROLLED FOR 20 21, 20 22.

UM, AND THIS WOULD'VE BEEN THE REAUTHORIZATION FOR THE 2023, BUT WE'RE KIND OF SPANNING TWO YEARS NOW, UM, BECAUSE OF A, A DELAY.

COMMISSIONER DAVIS, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME FOR IT, BUT I'M CONSIDERING A, A MOTION TO TABLE THESE VOTING ITEMS AND ACCELERATE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 13, WHICH MAY PROVIDE BETTER CLARITY ON SOME OF THE REUSE, UM, BACKGROUND TO BETTER INFORM THE, UM, THE VOTING OF THESE THREE ITEMS. SO TO TRANSLATE THAT INTO SOME SORT OF ROBERT'S RULES KIND OF A THING.

YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP ITEM 13 ON THE AGENDA TO RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE WILL JUST LAY THESE ASIDE FOR THE TIME BEING AND COME BACK TO THEM.

YES, THAT SOUNDS AWESOME TO ME.

, SECOND.

.

ALL RIGHT.

IF IT NEEDS ONE, IT, IT MIGHT, BUT , WE'RE A LITTLE INFORMAL IN THIS GROUP, SO IF WE COULD MOVE ITEM 13 UP AND GO ON AHEAD AND HAVE THAT PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY ILLUMINATIVE FOR US.

DO WE WANNA TRY TO RIP THROUGH THE OTHER NON-WATER STUFF AND GET THOSE SPEAKERS AND ISSUES OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE WE GO BACK TO 13? AND THESE THREE ITEMS WE'RE, SO WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE AHEAD OF IT? UH, WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL WEIGHTY ITEMS HERE.

UH, EACH OF THESE COULD TAKE 10 TO 20 MINUTES.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY LET'S STICK WITH PULLING 13 FORWARD AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE

[13. Staff briefing regarding the Water Forward Updates by Kevin Critendon, Assistant Director, Environmental, Planning, and Development Services, Austin Water.]

GONNA TRY IT THIS WAY.

PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, MY NAME'S KEVIN CRIT AND I'M GONNA TRY TO RUN THROUGH THIS WITH SOME SPEEDS SINCE WE'VE ALREADY AT LEAST BROACHED SOME OF THE TOPICS.

I'M HERE REALLY TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT OUR WATER FORWARD PLAN, WHICH IS OUR A HUNDRED YEAR INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SPECIFICALLY, WE'LL BE FOCUSED IN THIS PRESENTATION ON REUSE STRATEGIES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, AGENDA WISE, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING WATER

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FOR, GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT REUSE STRATEGIES, WHICH I THINK WILL HELP AT LEAST ILLUMINATE SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD.

UH, WE'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ADDRESSING AFFORDABILITY IN THESE VARIOUS ITEMS, PLUS OTHER PROGRAMMATIC ITEMS THAT AUSTIN WATER'S WORKING ON, SORT OF OUTSIDE OF THESE PARTICULAR CODE CHANGES.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR KEY 2024 ACTIVITIES TO ADVANCE OUR REUSE SYSTEM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE GENERALLY AWARE.

WATER FORWARD IS OUR A HUNDRED YEAR INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY WITH A GOAL OF MAKING, UM, A HUNDRED YEAR WATER SUPPLY, UH, SUSTAINABLE WATER SUPPLY AVAILABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, IT INCLUDES A FOCUS ON ADAPTATION TO GROWTH, DROUGHT RESISTANCE, CLIMATE CHANGE, UM, EQUITY AFFORDABILITY.

UM, THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN 2018 AND IS SCHEDULED TO BE REVISITED EVERY FIVE YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, WHILE THE 18 PLAN WAS ADOPTED, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING WHAT WE CALL WATER FOUR 2.0.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

JUST TO, UH, ACQUAINT YOU WITH OUR WATER SUPPLY.

AUSTIN WATER GETS ITS, UH, WATER SUPPLY EXCLUSIVELY FROM THE TEXAS, COLORADO RIVER AND THE HINDIN LAKES.

UH, WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF BOTH, UH, RUN OF RIVER WATER RIGHTS, UH, ISSUED TO US FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

AND WE HAVE A, UH, CONTRACT WITH THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY TO BACK UP THAT WATER SUPPLY.

UM, OUR WATER RIGHTS TOTAL ABOUT 325,000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR.

AND, UM, UH, LET'S SEE.

WE ALSO, AS PART OF AN ARRANGEMENT WITH LCRA, UH, PAID A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS BACK IN THE 1990 FRAME TIMEFRAME TO ADVANCE PAYMENT FOR ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLIES AND TO SECURE THOSE WATER SUPPLIES.

UM, THERE'S A TRIGGER BUILT INTO THAT CONTRACT WHERE ONCE WE REACH, UH, 201,000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR IN TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS, WE WILL THEN HAVE TO BEGIN PAYING FOR WATER SUPPLY ON TOP OF THAT.

WE, OKAY, I'M GONNA KEEP MOVING.

ALRIGHT, UM, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN DEVELOPING WATER FORWARD.

IT INCLUDES, UH, TOPICS LIKE RESILIENCY, UH, INCLUSION APPROACH, AND COMMUNITY VALUES DIVERSITY, UH, DIVERSITY STRATEGIES, EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY, PROTECTING OUR COLORADO RIVER SUPPLY, REDUCE OPERATIONAL RISK AND FOCUS ON LOCAL SUPPLIES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OUR WATER FORWARD PLAN, UM, WAS DEVELOPED AND IS CONTINUED TO BE EVALUATED IN THE CONTEXT OF A VARIETY OF OTHER PLANNING INITIATIVES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THAT IN THAT FOCUS ON ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, CLIMATE EQUITY, AFFORDABILITY, RESILIENCE AND RELIABILITY, THOSE PLANS INCLUDE OUR AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, RAIN TO RIVER, UM, UH, OUR AUSTIN CLIMATE PLAN, ET CETERA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

CERTAIN OF THE DRIVERS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN WATER FORWARD, UH, IN THE WATER FORWARD 2018 PLAN INCLUDE PLANNING FOR UNCERTAINTY BOTH AROUND GROWTH AND AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE.

UM, THESE ARE JUST GRAPHICS.

THAT PARTICULAR SLIDE SHOWS A PICTURE OF, UM, THE PARDON RIVER, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR MAIN TRIBUTARIES FEEDING THE COLORADO RIVER, WHICH WAS DRY DURING THE LAST DROUGHT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE SLIDE JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE OF THE CHANGE IN STORAGE IN LAKE BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS LAKES.

BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS ARE THE, THE PRIMARY STORAGE RESERVOIRS THAT BACK UP OUR WATER SUPPLY.

YOU CAN SEE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, THERE WERE TWO SIGNIFICANT DIPS IN COMBINED STORAGE IN THE, UH, LAKE TRAVIS AND BUCHANAN, UM, RESERVOIRS.

ONE IN THE FIFTIES, ONE FOLLOWED IN THE SIXTIES.

UM, HISTORICALLY THE PERIOD OF THE FIFTIES WAS CONSIDERED THE DROUGHT OF RECORD FOR THIS REGION.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGHOUT TIME, THE STORAGE IN LAKES, TRAVIS AND MCCANNON FLUCTUATES QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

UM, MOST NOTABLY, UM, IN THE 20 TO 2008 TO 2016 TIMEFRAME, OUR BASIN, UH, EXPERIENCED AGAIN ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT DROUGHT.

UM, AND IN FACT, THAT DROUGHT HAS NOW SURPASSED THE PRIOR DROUGHT OF THE FIFTIES TO BE OUR NEW DROUGHT OF RECORD, WHICH THAT'S THE PLANNING BENCHMARK THAT HAS HISTORICALLY ESTABLISHED, UM, THE, UM, THE PLANNING PERIOD FOR THE, THE KIND OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DROUGHT THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, IN DEVELOPING WATER FORWARD, WE'VE IDENTIFIED A VARIETY OF STRATEGIES, WHICH THERE'S ABOUT 18 TO

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20 STRATEGIES GENERALLY.

UM, THOSE STRATEGIES ARE IDENTIFIED IN FOUR DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

ONE OF THEM IS REUSE, WHICH AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT JUST GETTING UP TO THIS POINT.

BUT IT INVOLVES EVERYTHING FROM ONSITE REUSE TO, UM, THE USE AND EXTENSION OF OUR CURRENT PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM, WHICH IS OUR CENTRALIZED RECLAIM SYSTEM.

UM, ALSO CONSIDERS THINGS LIKE DISTRICT SCALE REUSE AND OTHER TYPES OF REUSE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, WE TALK A LOT IN WATER FORWARD ABOUT CONTINUING, UM, OUR WATER CONSERVATION EFFORTS.

UM, SO I KNOW, UM, MR. KLUGE IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT, AND HE COMES AND GIVES YOU UPDATES ON OUR WATER CONSERVATION ACTIVITIES, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UM, ALSO WE CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED IN, UM, WATER FORWARD ON WATER SUPPLY AND WATER SUPPLY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, COGNIZANT OF AND PROTECTIVE OF OUR RIGHTS ON THE COLORADO RIVER.

UM, ALSO ENVISIONS THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BE DEVELOPING OTHER SUPPLY ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING, FOR INSTANCE, UM, OUR AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY PROJECT, WHICH IS AN OPTION TO TAKE, UM, HIGHLY TREATED DRINKING WATER AND STORE THAT UNDERGROUND SO THAT IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR USE DURING A DROUGHT OR SYSTEM UPSET.

UM, AND THEN ALSO PARTNERSHIPS.

WE ARE IN CLOSE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY, WHO WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO BACK UP OUR WATER SUPPLY WITH, UM, AS WELL AS REGIONAL PARTNERS LIKE REGION K IN THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD REGIONAL PLANNING PROCESS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE TALK ABOUT WHY NOW AND WHY REUSE.

SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU, THESE TWO SLIDES INDICATE JUST THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN LANDSCAPE THAT'S HAPPENED, PARTICULARLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA OF AUSTIN IN 1999.

THE SLIDE ON YOUR LEFT INDICATES, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT WAS DOWNTOWN.

UM, THERE WAS, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NOTABLY ONE, UM, CONSTRUCTION CRANE IN THAT PICTURE.

IF YOU GO DOWNTOWN NOW, THERE'S LOTS OF CONSTRUCTION CRANES IN THAT AREA.

OBVIOUSLY, 2024 ILLUSTRATES THE NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS OF VARIOUS TYPES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

EACH ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS AT CERTAIN SCALE DOES REPRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DEVELOP ONSITE REUSE, OR AT A MINIMUM LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFSET NON-POTABLE NEEDS WITH NON-POTABLE WATER SUPPLIES.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE AGAIN, IS JUST A REFERENCE TO OUR COLORADO RIVER SYSTEM, BUT IT REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE VALUE AND BENEFIT OF PUSHING OFF OUR TRIGGER WITH THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY.

UM, BY BEING ABLE TO USE, UM, RECLAIMED AND RECYCLE SOURCES OF WATER THAT CONTINUES TO DEFER OUR OBLIGATION TO PAY LCRA FOR ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY.

UM, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN WE STRUCK THE DEAL WITH LCRA IN THE 99 PERIOD, WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, BY THE EARLY 2015 TIMEFRAME, 2020 TIMEFRAME, WE WOULD'VE ALREADY SURPASSED THAT 201,000 ACRE FEET OF WATER SUPPLY.

UM, THROUGH THE GOOD WORK OF THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH THAT OFF THROUGH A VARIETY OF WATER CONSERVATION ACTIVITIES.

WATER REUSE IS JUST ANOTHER OPTION TO CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT TRIGGER OFF TO A LATER DATE.

WE ESTIMATE THAT EVERY DAY, EVERY YEAR THAT WE DELAY THAT TRIGGER, WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE AT A MINIMUM $10 MILLION A YEAR.

UM, AND THAT, OF COURSE, WILL CHANGE OVER TIME.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE REALLY JUST INDICATES, UM, AREAS IN WHICH, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ACTUALLY LEADING THE WAY ON, UM, REUSE AND RECYCLED WATER, UM, DEVELOPMENT.

THIS VERY BUILDING THAT YOU'RE IN HERE, UM, IT'S PART OF OUR, IT'S ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS ON OUR CENTRALIZED RECLAIMED SYSTEM.

SO ALL THE TOILETS AND URINALS IN THIS BUILDING ARE FLUSHED WITH RECLAIMED WATER, WHICH IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF USING, YOU KNOW, A FIT FOR PURPOSE, UH, APPROACH.

OTHER EXAMPLES INCLUDE THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, OUR PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER.

WE'VE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED A GROUNDBREAKING BLACKWATER TREATMENT SYSTEM, UM, AUSTIN ENERGY HEADQUARTERS.

I MENTIONED THERE ARE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING THE AUSTIN PEACE ACADEMY, WATERLOO PARK, RESTROOMS, UH, MUELLER VISITOR CENTER, AND THE TRAVIS COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER.

NEXT SLIDE, AGAIN, I'M GONNA SPEND THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REUSE STRATEGIES, REALLY, WHICH DO REFLECT AND RELATE DIRECTLY TO THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

SO APOLOGIES FOR THIS BEING A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, REALLY WE WANNA TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, REUSE IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER TAKE CENTRALIZED, RECLAIM, TREAT IT TO A VERY HIGH LEVEL, AND USE IT FOR THINGS LIKE TOILET AND URINAL FLUSHING.

USE IT FOR, UM, COOLING WATER, USE IT FOR PROCESS WATER THAT CAN EITHER BE GAINED

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FROM OUR CENTRAL SYSTEM OR CAN BE DEVELOPED ON AN ONSITE BASIS.

AND CERTAINLY LARGER DEVELOPMENTS ARE PARTICULARLY OPPORTUNISTIC BECAUSE THEY DO DEVELOP QUITE A BIT OF, UH, RECLAIMED, UM, UH, WATER THAT WE CAN USE IN THOSE REGARDS.

PLUS THEY HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF, OF NON-POTABLE WATER NEED THAT CAN BE OFFSET BY THAT USE.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONSERVATION.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT WAS NOTABLE THAT COUNCIL DID IN THEIR PASSAGE OF THE 2021, UH, LDC AMENDMENTS WAS TO REQUIRE ONSITE, UH, EXCUSE ME, WATER USE BENCHMARKING, WHICH IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK SITE BY SITE AT HOW WATER IS SUPPLIED AND HOW IT CAN BE DISAGGREGATED AND TO ITS DIFFERENT NEEDS SO THAT WE CAN AGAIN, MATCH PURPOSE AND USE.

NEXT SLIDE.

REALLY, THIS IS A SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE EVOLUTION OF OUR CENTRALIZED RECLAIMED SYSTEM.

AGAIN, THAT RECLAIMED SYSTEM, UM, IS INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE RIGHTS OF WAY OF THE CITY STREETS IN AUSTIN.

IT PRIMARILY FOCUSES ON, UM, BEING ABLE TO SUPPLY, UM, TREATED RECLAIMED WATER PRIMARILY TO OUR CENTRAL AUSTIN AREA.

UM, BASICALLY THAT SYSTEM TAKES WASTEWATER, HIGHLY TREATED WASTEWATER EFFLUENT FROM BOTH OF OUR REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, POLISHES IT FURTHER, AND THEN PUMPS IT THROUGH A SYSTEM OF PIPES, UM, AND ENABLES THAT TO BE USED IN A VARIETY OF LOCATIONS.

THIS SLIDE REALLY JUST REPRESENTS THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT AUSTIN WATER HAS PLACED INTO THE SYSTEM SINCE 1995, STARTING WITH THE FIRST A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS BETWEEN 95 AND 2005.

UM, AGAIN, IN THE 2015 TIMEFRAME, WE'VE INVESTED ANOTHER 94 MILLION.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT NEEDS OF, YOU KNOW, THE $200 MILLION OR MORE TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT SYSTEM SO THAT IT CAN BE AVAILABLE AND READY TO USE FOR SOME OF THESE ONSITE DEMANDS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE GRAPHIC THAT JUST SHOWS THE EXTENT OF THE RECLAIMED SYSTEM, AND I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT WASHED OUT, SO YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT VERY WELL.

BUT, UM, THERE ARE PURPLE PIPE LINES SHOWN ON THAT GRAPHIC.

GENERALLY, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOOP STARTING AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, WHICH IS OUR WALNUT CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT HEADED NORTH AND WEST.

THAT LOOPS BACK AROUND, DROPS SOUTH.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, CONNECT INTO A SYSTEM THAT STARTS FROM THE SOUTH AT OUR SOUTH AUSTIN REGIONAL PLANT AND PUSHES RECLAIMED WATER THE OTHER WAY.

THE IDEA IS TO DEVELOP A, A FULLY INTERCONNECTED NETWORK OF RECLAIMED WATER LINES SO THAT IT CAN HAVE RESILIENCE AND RELIABILITY, MUCH MORE SIMILAR TO OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE REALLY GOES INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON SOME OF THE ITEMS WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHICH ARE REALLY OUR REUSE STRATEGIES.

UM, PRIMARILY WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ADVANCING SOME NEW AFFORDABILITY INITIATIVES, WHICH REALLY IS THE BASIS OF A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT CONTINUING TO INCENTIVIZE CONNECTION TO THE CENTRAL RECLAIMED SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS MANDATED OR PROPOSED TO BE MANDATED BY CODE.

UM, WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT RECLAIM SYSTEM.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S AN INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE COMMUNITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND IS FROM A MASS SCALE, PROBABLY OUR LARGEST OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE LARGE VOLUMES OF RECLAIMED WATER AROUND THE CITY IN A RELIABLE WAY.

UM, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT COMMUNITY SCALE RECLAIMED SYSTEMS, WHICH INCLUDES THE IDEA OF CERTAIN OUTLYING DEVELOPMENTS, BEING ABLE TO RELY ON WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE LOOKED AT AS PACKAGE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS THAT CAN TREAT THAT EFFLUENT TO A HIGH QUALITY AND ALSO MORE LOCALLY BE ABLE TO USE THAT, UM, IN THOSE, UM, CENTRALIZED OR DECENTRALIZED CIRCUMSTANCES.

UM, AND THEN ONSITE, UM, WATER CAPTURE AND REUSE, WHICH AGAIN, ITEM SIX AND SEVEN PARTICULARLY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON ONSITE WATER REUSE AND CAPTURE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING OUR POLICIES AROUND THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE, CONTINUE TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF ADDITIONAL COSTS TO, UM, AFFORDABILITY, AFFORDABILITY AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

UM, AND SO THIS IS WHERE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, AND THE IDEA OF NEEDING

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TO INCREASE OUR INCENTIVES AND GRANTS, UM, HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN RESONATED.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK HERE WITH ITEM NUMBER 7, 8, 8.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, EIGHT TO TALK ABOUT REAUTHORIZING, OUR PILOT INCENTIVE PROGRAM.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ARE NOT, THAT AREN'T ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, WHICH ARE MORE PROGRAMMATIC FROM AUSTIN WATER'S PERSPECTIVE, WHICH INCLUDES REDUCED MONTHLY FIXED CHARGES FOR FOLKS THAT USE RECLAIMED WATER, UM, EXPEDITED BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW PROCESSES FOR THE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A MORE EXTENSIVE, UH, PLUMBING REVIEW.

UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF LOW INTEREST LOAN PROGRAMS TO HELP OFFSET CERTAIN COSTS ASSOCIATED FOR INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT, THAT WANT TO, OR REQUIRED TO USE THIS, UM, COST SHARING, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT THIS EVENING.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THE TRAVIS COUNTY PACE, UH, LOAN PROGRAM, WHICH IS AN, A COMBINED ENERGY, UH, WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALLOW BUILDING OWNERS TO INVEST IN, UM, DIFFERENT SUSTAINABILITY OR WATER, WATER ENERGY CONSERVATION INITIATIVES.

UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE WHOLE WATERFRONT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR IMPROVING AFFORDABILITY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ANOTHER ELEMENT, AND AGAIN, NOT ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT AUSTIN WATER IS CONSIDERING.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT CHARGE.

SO BASICALLY WE WOULD LOOK AT INCREASING OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY BENEFIT CHARGE, SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED TO TRY TO GO AND HELP PAY FOR THE EXTENSION OF OUR RECLAIM SYSTEM IN GENERAL.

UM, AND SO THAT WOULD LOOK AT INCREASING OUR CBC BY ABOUT 15 CENTS A THOUSAND GALLONS SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE A FUNDING STREAM, AN ADDITIONAL FUNDING STREAM TO HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THESE EXPANSIONS.

AND, UM, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WE, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE, UM, SETTING UP A PURPLE CHOICE AND PURPLE CHOICE PLUS PROGRAM, WHICH IS MODEL VERY MUCH AFTER AUSTIN ENERGY'S GREEN CHOICE PROGRAM.

OBVIOUSLY MODIFIED FOR OUR PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, WATER CIRCUMSTANCE, AND THEN THE IDEA OF OF, UH, IMPLEMENTING EXCESS USE CHARGES FOR FOLKS WHEN THEY HAVE A NON-POTABLE ALTERNATIVE.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE GOES INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT I, I THINK PROBABLY I MAY NOT HAVE DONE JUSTICE IN OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, BUT THIS IS A BIT OF A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS SORT OF WHERE AND HOW THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS IN, UM, CHAPTER 25 DASH NINE WOULD, WOULD PLAY OUT AS FAR AS HOW THEY WOULD IMPACT THE REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM.

UM, AGAIN, SMALL DEVELOPMENTS, UM, ARE REQUIRED TO DO, AND AGAIN, SMALL DEVELOPMENTS ARE DEFINED AS DEVELOPMENTS UNDER 250,000 SQUARE FOOT SMALL DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO WATER BENCHMARKING, UM, AND THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO THE, UH, RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM IF THEY ARE WITHIN, UH, 20, UH, 250 FEET.

UM, MOVING UP TO THE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, SO THOSE ARE DEVELOPMENTS OVER 250,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, AND I GOTTA CHECK THE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THIS, SORRY.

SO THE TOP ONE ARE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS WITHOUT A MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT.

UM, AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO WATER BENCHMARKING.

THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO THE CENTRALIZED SYSTEM IF THEY ARE WITHIN, UM, 500 FEET.

THE PROPOSAL IN ITEM SIX ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT WOULD BE TO EXTEND THAT TO, UM, ALSO INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM OR A REQUIREMENT TO DO ONSITE REUSE.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT CLARIFIES ONE OF THE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS.

AND THEN THE NEXT, UM, CATEGORY WOULD BE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT INCLUDE A MULTI-FAMILY COMPONENT.

AND AGAIN, THEY WOULD REQUIRE BE REQUIRED TO DO, UM, WATER BENCHMARKING.

THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONNECT TO THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM SYSTEM IF THEY'RE WITHIN 250 FEET.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE REQUIREMENT AGAIN BY THE CODE REQUIRE THAT, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT TO CONNECT TO CENTRALIZED RECLAIM IF YOU'RE WITHIN 500 FEET OR INSTALL ONSITE REUSE SYSTEM IF YOU'RE, IF YOU ARE, UM, BEYOND 500 FEET.

AND THEN WITH THE SPECIFIC EXCLUSION FOR PROJECTS ACCREDITED FOR AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED OR THE, THE STATE LOW HEALTH, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM.

SO I'M GONNA STOP THERE AND LET Y'ALL LOOK AT THAT AND NOT MUMBLE THROUGH THAT.

MAYBE THAT'S, IT'LL BE EASIER TO SEE IN WRITING.

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I SEE.

COMMISSIONER DAVIS HAS A QUESTION.

HI, THANK YOU.

IF WE'RE DOING QUESTIONS NOW, UM, PERHAPS I MISSED IT.

COULD YOU, WOULD YOU MIND EXPLAINING AGAIN WHAT WATER BENCHMARKING IS AND WHETHER IN THE PROPOSED REQUIREMENTS THESE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE CON REQUIRED TO CONTINUE IT? SO, YES, WATER BENCHMARKING IS, IS BASICALLY, UM, AN, AN ONSITE WATER BALANCE FOR ANY PARTICULAR SITE THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

AND SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE DEVELOPER'S ENGINEER WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT SITE, LOOK AT THEIR PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT SITE, AND RUN THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THROUGH A, UH, WATER BENCHMARK CALCULATOR, WHICH OUR STAFF HAS DEVELOPED.

AND BASICALLY THE GOAL OF THAT EXERCISE IS TO TRY TO IDENTIFY WHERE THERE ARE, UM, ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF WATER AND WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALTERNATIVE USES OF WATER.

SO AGAIN, TRYING TO MATCH FIT FOR PURPOSE, SOURCE TO USE.

AND SO SPECIFICALLY, UM, THAT ACTUALLY THAT REQUIREMENT EXISTS COM CONTINUES TO EXIST.

IT WAS ACTUALLY PASSED IN THE 2021 CODE CHANGES.

SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN, UM, I'LL SAY ENJOYING THAT.

IT'S CERTAINLY CREATED WORKLOAD, BUT IT, IT DOES PROVIDE US WITH A LOT OF GOOD DATA SO THAT AS WE EVOLVE OUR PROGRAM, WE HAVE BETTER, UM, INFORMATION ABOUT HOW SITES ARE DEVELOPED AND OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE ON BOTH THE, THE ONSITE OR OTHERWISE NON-POTABLE DEMANDS FOR PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU.

AND SO THAT, THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD CONTINUE, UH, UNDER THE PROPOSED CHANGES AS WELL? YES, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND, AND JUST TO CONFIRM, THIS IS SAYING THAT THE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS WITH MULTIFAMILY, UM, THE, THE CONNECTION TO THE PURPLE PIPE WOULD BE RELAXED FROM 250 FEET TO 500 FEET.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY MORE, MORE STRENUOUS BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS, IF, IF YOU'RE WITHIN 200, IF YOU'RE BEYOND 250 FEET FOR A SMALL DEVELOPMENT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONNECT FOR LARGE DEVELOPMENTS.

IF YOU'RE BEYOND 250 FEET ALL THE WAY TO 500 FEET, YOU ALSO STILL HAVE TO CONNECT.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK Y'ALL.

I'VE GOT ONE MORE SLIDE ON THIS AND I'LL GET OUT, I'LL AT LEAST OPEN IT BACK UP.

AND I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE COMMISSIONER SILVERSTEIN.

GO AHEAD.

ON THE LAST SLIDE, IF YOU ARE NOT, IF YOU'RE A LARGE OR IF YOU'RE A FACILITY AND NOT WITHIN THE 500 FOOT AREA, DO YOU STILL HAVE TO INSTALL AN ONSITE WATER RESISTANCE? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SURE.

SO THE LAST PAGE OF THIS PRESENTATION, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M HERE ALL NIGHT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF INITIATIVES OR A COUPLE OF ACTIVITIES THAT'LL BE GOING ON.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, MARCH 7TH IS, UH, WE'RE DUBBING IT PURPLE PIPE DAY.

UM, THE, BASICALLY THAT WILL BE THE DAY IN WHICH COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER, UM, THESE THREE ITEMS THAT YOU ARE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

UM, I THINK EVEN ONE OR TWO OTHERS THAT DON'T, AREN'T RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO, UM, WATER RE, EXCUSE ME, RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION.

UM, AND SO, UM, COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER CODE CHANGES RELATED TO ONSITE REUSE REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE'VE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, UM, THEY'LL BE ASKED TO, UM, REAUTHORIZE EXISTING INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WHICH YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT.

UM, THEY'LL ALSO BE CONSIDERING THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT CHARGE PIECE, UH, WHICH IS NOT PART OF TONIGHT'S, UH, REQUIREMENTS HERE.

UM, AND THEN IN AUGUST WE WILL REIFY A LOT OF THIS SAME ACTIVITY THROUGH OUR ANNUAL BUDGET MAKING PROCESS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL CALL THAT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, AND ONCE AGAIN, TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER ROBBINS, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU OR SOMEONE ON STAFF TO CLARIFY, UH, WHAT THE COST IS TO THE CITY AFTER WE REACH THE 201,000 ACRE FOOT THRESHOLD.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT NOW.

I I COULD GENERALLY NARRATE IT FOR YOU AND WE CAN PROVIDE, I, WE DO HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED AND WE CAN GET YOU SPECIFIC ANSWERS, BUT I MEAN, BASICALLY ONCE WE EXCEED 201,000 ACRE FEET AND TWO YEARS IN A ROW, THEN WE START HAVING TO PAY FOR VOLUMES OF WATER OVER

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150,000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR AT L CCRA THEN CURRENT COST.

OKAY.

UM, AND, AND THAT COST RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $155 AN ACRE FOOT.

GOT THAT.

BUT IT IS EXPECTED TO RISE OVER TIME, SO, OKAY.

THIS IS VERY HELPFUL.

YES.

UH, JUST TO GIVE THE COMMISSION OF CONTEXT DECK CITES 10 MILLION AS AN ANNUAL COST.

YEAH, IT'S IN THE SLIDE.

YEAH.

YES.

OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

JUST A POINT.

THE SLIDE DECK INCLUDES, I THINK THAT THE OVERALL COST IMPACT OF DEFERRING THE TRIGGER, WE ESTIMATE TO BE $10 MILLION A YEAR.

SO JUST A REFERENCE TO THAT, I </