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[CALL TO ORDER]

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UM, IT IS SIX OH THREE.

I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONS FEBRUARY 21ST.

WE'RE HERE AT 63 10 WILHELMINA DELCO DRIVE.

WE'LL GO AROUND THE HORN, UH, MAYBE STARTING REMOTELY IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T, JUST, WOULDN'T MIND.

UH, TURN OFF YOUR MUTE AND, AND, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE.

RICK BRIER.

HERE.

MARIANA KRUGER.

HERE.

COLIN NICHOLS.

HERE.

PERRY BEDFORD.

HERE.

CHRIS, YOU'RE UP.

UH, UP OR HERE? EINHORN.

HERE.

RANDBERG HERE.

CRYSTAL.

ALL HERE.

SHERA HERE.

COFER HERE.

SULLIVAN.

HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU GUYS.

UM, WE HAVE

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

ONE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, I BELIEVE, FROM ADAM, UH, SADLOWSKI.

OKAY.

TRYING.

YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE, SIR.

THANK YOU.

.

YEAH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, HIT THE, HIT THE BUTTON.

UH, AND THE RED LIGHT SHOULD TURN ON UP BY THE, BY THE TOP OF THE MIC.

I'VE GOT GREEN.

IS THAT GOOD? THAT'S GREAT.

IT'S EVEN BETTER.

PERFECT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

COMMISSIONERS, STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANKS FOR HAVING US.

UH, MY NAME IS ADAMSKI.

I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL.

I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO START WITH A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR DR.

MARK AKRE.

OUR RECENT MEDICAL DIRECTOR, DR.

AKRE, LEFT US TRAGICALLY TOO SOON.

LAST WEEKEND, HE WAS A BELOVED FRIEND, BROTHER, SON, MENTOR, AND BRILLIANT HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL, HELPING THE ENTIRETY OF THE AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY COMMUNITY AND THE ENTIRE WORLD.

THANK YOU FOR HELPING US HONOR HIM AT THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL.

WE STRIVE EVERY DAY TO BRING THE BEST OF OURSELVES TO THE WORK THAT WE DO, DEDICATED TO SAFETY, OUTDOORS, AND EDUCATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOS BEHIND US, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF OUR BEST MOMENTS.

OVER THE LAST YEARS, KIM DUDA, FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR, ATTENDED THE MEETING IN JANUARY AND GAVE A LOOK INTO WHAT THAT YEAR ENTAILED FOR US.

IN SUM.

IN 2023, THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL SERVED OVER 870 INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, INDIVIDUALS WITH WHO ARE DEAF OR HEARING IMPAIRED, AND INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE BLIND OR VISUALLY IMPAIRED.

WE CLEANED OVER 14,000 POUNDS OF TRASH, WHICH IS AROUND SIX AND A HALF TONS, AND ONE TON OF RECYCLING FROM THE SHORELINE AND THE, THE WATER OF THE COLORADO RIVER.

WE CONSISTENTLY TESTED THE WATER QUALITY EACH MONTH.

WE LED SEVERAL TRANSFORMATIONAL OUTDOOR PROGRAMS IN COLLABORATION WITH A ISD, SEVERAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR GROUPS.

WE LED CON CONSERVATION PROGRAMS FOCUS TO INSPIRE SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS, AND WE HELPED, HELPED RAISE OVER TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS CENTER IN CRESTED BUTTE, WHO SPECIALIZE IN PROVIDING FREE AND OR AFFORDABLE OUTDOOR PROGRAMS FOR THE ADAPTIVE COMMUNITY WORLDWIDE.

WE WERE VOTED THE TOP TRAINING PROVIDER FOR THE SEVENTH YEAR IN A ROW BY THE AMERICAN RED CROSS FOR OUR COURSES IN WILDERNESS FIRST AID LIFEGUARDING, BASIC WATER RESCUE.

AND WE PROVIDED EMPLOYMENT TO SEVERAL YOUTH AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM THE ADAPTIVE POPULATION AS OUTDOOR GUIDES AND EDUCATORS.

IN OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH GLOBAL NGOS, WE PUT WORLD LEADERS ON THE WATER FOR THE FIRST TIME WHO WERE STUDYING AND OR INTERNING IN AUSTIN WHO CAME FROM THE ENTIRE GLOBE.

WE TAUGHT SEVERAL FIRST TIME PADDLERS HOW TO STAY SAFE ON THE WATER.

AFTER ALL, SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT WITH THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL.

WE'RE PROUD TO REPORT THAT WE REMAIN TO HAVE A PERFECT SAFETY RECORD IN ALL PROGRAMS. AND THE GOOD CONTINUES.

UM, ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE AT THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL, WE HAVE OUR WEEKLY ADAPTIVE PADDLE TOMORROW AT ONE 15, AND WE'D LOVE TO INVITE EVERYONE HERE AND IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL TO COME AND PADDLE WITH US.

UM, AND AS THEY ARE VERY LIKELY TO DO, OUR ADAPTIVE PADDLERS ARE GONNA HAND YOU GUYS TRASH BAGS AND TRASH GRABBERS BECAUSE A, THEY'VE BEEN CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO CLEAN UP AS MUCH FROM THE COLORADO RIVER AS THEY CAN LATELY, ESPECIALLY POST ALL THE RECENT RAINS.

SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE TOMORROW, ONE 15 AT THE EXPEDITION SCHOOL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, ADAM.

THANKS FOR COMING DOWN AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PROVIDE

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THOSE SLIDES TO, UH, ELIZABETH.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, NEXT STEP.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WE'VE GOT, UM, ELIZABETH HAS SENT AROUND THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

HAS ANYONE, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE MINUTES OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION FROM EINHORN SECOND FROM BEDFORD.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN? RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, ALL THOSE ABSTAINING, RIGHT? I GOT YOU.

ONE ABSTENTION AND, AND BRIERS ABSTAINING AS WELL.

TWO ABSTENTIONS.

ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES.

UH, THANK YOU GUYS.

ALRIGHT, UM, DISCUSSION ITEMS. AGENDA ITEM

[2. Presentation of Development Assessment Report for 500 South Congress, located at 500 South Congress Avenue, CD-2023-0001 (District 9). Applicant: Richard T. Suttle, Armbrust & Brown, PLLC. Staff: Sherri Sirwaitis, Planning Department, and Leslie Lilly, Environmental Program Manager, Watershed Protection Department ]

NUMBER TWO, WE'RE GONNA HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM A DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT REPORT FOR 500 SOUTH CONGRESS LOCATED AT 500 SOUTH CONGRESS.

IRONICALLY, UM, CD 2 0 2 3 DASH 0 0 1, DISTRICT NINE.

UM, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT AND STAFF.

IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? YOU? SORRY, STAFF, YOU GONNA GO FIRST? ALRIGHT.

PLEASE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, GET, GET ROLLING.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M SHERRY TIS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEFING ON THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT FOR 500 SOUTH CONGRESS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 500 AND 510 SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE, 1 0 5 WEST RIVERSIDE DRIVE, AND 4 0 7 AND A HALF HAYWOOD AVENUE.

THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT FOR A PROPOSED 6.01 ACRE MIXED USE PROJECT LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE.

FOR REFERENCE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ONE TEXAS CENTER BUILDING IS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE WEST, AND THE TEXAS STATE SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF IS TO THE SOUTH OF THIS SITE.

THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A TWO STORY OFFICE STRUCTURE, A MULTIFAMILY USE, A RESTAURANT, AND A FIVE STORY OFFICE BUILDING THAT ARE ZONED CS ONE MP AND CS ONE VNP.

IT IS DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE BOLD CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

THE PROPOSED PUD CONSISTS OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 800 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 225 KEY HOTEL, 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, 90,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL USE, 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESTAURANT USE, AND A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT GROCERY STORE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH BELOW GRADE PARKING STRUCTURES IN THEIR SUBMITTAL LETTER.

THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THEY'RE SEEKING CS ONE ZONING AS THE BASELINE DISTRICT FOR THE PUD.

THE APPLICANT HAS LISTED THE PROPOSED SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL USES FOR THE SITE ON THE LAND USE PLAN THAT IS ATTACHED IN YOUR BACKUP OF NOTE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT OF 575 FEET AND A MAXIMUM FLORIDA AREA RATIO OF 6.11 TO ONE.

THE PUD PROPOSES ZERO SET FOOT, ZERO FOOT SETBACKS ALONG ALL PROPERTY LINES.

IN ADDITION, THE PUD PROPOSES TO MAINTAIN AN AVERAGE OF A 70 FOOT PRIMARY SETBACK PARALLEL TO THE CENTER LINE OF EAST GIN CREEK.

AND TO REMOVE THE SECONDARY SETBACK LINE, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE LADY BIRD LAKE AND EAST GOLDEN CREEK WATERSHEDS, WHICH ARE CLASSIFIED AS URBAN WATERSHEDS AND IS PART OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT.

THE PROPOSED PUD IS IN AN AREA THAT INCLUDES A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN AND CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

THE PUD WILL SEEK 25 MODIFICATIONS FROM CODE REQUIREMENTS.

THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED IN THE SUBMITTAL MATERIALS THAT THE PROJECT WILL MEET ALL OF THE APPLICABLE TIER ONE SUPERIOR, UH, PUD STANDARDS AND TIER TIER ONE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND OFFER ELEMENTS OF SUPERIORITY IN 11 TIER TWO CATEGORIES.

THE APPLICANT STATES THE PROS.

PUDA WILL IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY ALONG THE PROPERTY BY PROVIDING ELEVATED BOARDWALK AND TRAILS ALONG EAST BE CREEK TO CREATE CONNECTION BETWEEN SOUTH FIRST AVENUE AND SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE AS OF VISIONED IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION FRAMEWORK PLAN, THEREFORE, THE PUD PROPOSES TO REMOVE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS COVERING AND IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND FLOOD PLAIN AND INCORPORATE SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTAL ECOLOGICAL AND ENHANCEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE PUD.

OF COURSE, THERE'S MORE INFORMATION IN YOUR BACKUP ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UM, FOR MODIFICATIONS AND FOR BENEFITS IN THE PUD.

BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, APPLICANT, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO PRESENT OR, UH, DO YOU WANT US JUST TO GET INTO QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, JUST STATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU GET UP TO THE PODIUM AND IF IT'S NOT

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STILL ON, HIT THE BUTTON UNTIL IT TURNS GREEN.

HOW'S THAT WORK? ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.

SO, UM, MY NAME IS, UH, MIKE IONE.

UH, I'M AN EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT WITH, UH, THE RELATED COMPANIES.

AND, UH, I LIVE HERE IN AUSTIN WITH MY WIFE, UH, MY FOUR BOYS AND, UH, MY DOG ROSIE.

UM, SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE REALLY STARTED ORIGINALLY THINKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UM, I THINK WE HAD A A FEW GOALS IN MIND, RIGHT? UM, NUMBER ONE IS TO CREATE A GREAT PLACE FOR PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND TO CREATE KIND OF THE NEW CENTRAL HEART OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT.

AND SO AS WE STARTED KIND OF THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES GREAT PLACES FOR PEOPLE, WE STARTED LOOKING AROUND THE WORLD AND TO CITIES THAT I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM HAVE, HAVE BEEN TO.

AND YOU START THINKING ABOUT THESE PLACES AND YOU START REALIZING THAT A LOT OF THE PLACES THAT WERE, THAT WHEN YOU'RE INHERENTLY THERE AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE AND FEEL GREAT, A LOT OF THESE PLACES ARE ACTUALLY BUILT BEFORE THE ADVENT OF THE MOTOR VEHICLE.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE PLACES WERE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE AROUND PEOPLE PRIOR TO KIND OF THE CAR CAME INTO EXISTENCE.

AND SO WE STARTED TAKING SOME CUES FROM A LOT OF THESE PLACES, WHETHER THEY'RE IN EUROPE.

UM, ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ACTUALLY REALLY KIND OF RESONATED WITH US ACTUALLY WAS IN SHANGHAI OF ALL PLACES.

AND IT WAS AN OLD RETAIL MART, UH, CALLED CHDI THAT GRADUALLY OVER TIME TURNED INTO THIS LIKE VIBRANT MIXED USE DESTINATION.

AND WHAT WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT AND NOTICING ABOUT THOSE SPACES IS THEY WERE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE INTIMATE THAN THE SPACES THAT ARE TYP TYPICALLY DEVELOPED IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND THE STREET AND LIKE THE LEFT BANK OF PARIS, YOU KIND OF LOOK AROUND AND YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T INHERENTLY UNDERSTAND WHY IT FEELS SO GOOD.

BUT THAT INTIMACY OF SPACE IS REALLY WHAT KIND OF CHANGES A PERSON'S VIEW ABOUT THE, THE SURROUNDINGS THAT THEY'RE IN.

SO I THINK THE, THE, THE OTHER KIND OF MAIN PRINCIPLE THAT WE, THAT WE HAD WAS HOW DO WE MAYBE TURN THE, WE CAN, I CAN SING ALONG TO THE MUSIC, UM, , THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING IS HOW DO WE CREATE A PLACE THAT'S SENSITIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT, THAT WE'RE IN? UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT REVOLVES AROUND KIND OF HOW THE DEVELOPMENT INTERACTS WITH THE CREEK.

UM, THIS IS JUST A KIND OF A SHORT VIDEO THAT KIND OF SHOWS, YOU KNOW, THOSE SPACES.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WAS IMPORTANT IS THE CONNECTIVITY ALONG THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE FROM THESE SPACES IS WE'RE NOT BUILDING A, A WALLED GARDEN HERE, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF POROSITY TO BOTH THE CREEK TO, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS, TO RIVERSIDE, AND TO HAYWOOD.

UM, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S ALL PURPOSEFUL BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU GO TO, I THINK A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE POORLY PLANNED IS EVERYBODY'S BUILDING THESE WALLED GARDENS.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT CREATES A KIND OF A WALKABLE, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY PLACE.

AND I THINK, UM, WHAT WE'VE MANAGED TO ACHIEVE HERE, ALONG WITH, UH, KPF AND, AND LAKE PLATO IS REALLY, UH, A DEVELOPMENT THAT I THINK WE ACHIEVES, UH, THE GOALS THAT WE SET OUT IN MAKING A GREAT PLACE OF PEOPLE AND MAKING A GREAT PLACE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO WHAT, AFTER WE KIND OF, WE CAN WATCH THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

UM, DAWOOD, UH, WHO WORKS, UH, AT RELATED ALONGSIDE, UM, IS GONNA KIND OF WALK US THROUGH, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, YOU KNOW, CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE'VE APPLIED TO THE SITE.

WE ALWAYS FIND IT'S HELPFUL TO ACTUALLY SEE SOME THINGS IN 3D IN, IN, IN REAL LIFE TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENTS, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL TEXTUAL AND IT'S SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO KIND OF IMAGINE THE VISION THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

I THINK WE CAN FAST FORWARD JUST TO THE END AND JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHT KIND OF THE, THE, THE CREEK AREA.

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I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL OF THE DEAF I TO CREATE SOME CONNECTIVITY WITH THEIR SITE.

I MEAN, I, I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN THE ROOM ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE SCHOOL, BUT THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 600 BOARDING STUDENTS, AND IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO FIND, UH, INTERNSHIPS, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORTATION.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IS CREATING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE TO CONNECT THE TWO SITES SO THEIR STUDENTS CAN COME AND, UM, GET SOME WORK EXPERIENCE FROM ALL OF THE, THE BUSINESSES, UM, IN, IN, IN THE, UH, 500 SOUTH CONGRESS DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'LL BRING UP DAWOOD AND HE CAN KIND OF WALK US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE.

ALL RIGHT.

NICE TO MEET EVERYONE.

UH, DOWD RUBIN, I WORK WITH MIKE AT RELATED.

UM, WE ARE A GLOBAL REAL ESTATE COMPANY, UM, SPECIALIZING IN DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, OTHER BUSINESSES AS WELL.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY BASED OUTTA NEW YORK, AND WE'VE COME HERE TO AUSTIN TO, UH, 'CAUSE WE BELIEVE IN AUSTIN.

WE BELIEVE IN THE MARKET, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO TRANSFORM AUSTIN, BUT CERTAINLY KEEP ITS SOLE AND CHARACTER INTACT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO WE ARE A WORLD CLASS OPERATOR.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH OVER 60 BILLION IN OUR REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO, WE'VE GOT 67,500 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UH, OF WHICH FIVE, UH, 50,000 OUR, UH, AFFORDABLE UNITS AND, UH, WORKFORCE DEPARTMENTS.

AND WE'VE NEVER TAKEN A SINGLE, UH, AFFORDABLE UNIT OUT OF OUR, UH, PORTFOLIO TO DATE.

WE'RE ALSO A MAJOR DEVELOPER, UH, MAJOR URBAN DEVELOPER.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO NEW YORK RECENTLY, YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD OF HUDSON, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT CERTAINLY HAS, UH, CEMENTED OUR, OUR PLACE AS ONE OF THE FOREMOST, UH, DEVELOPERS, UH, IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO OUR FOCUS IS REALLY, UH, ACTUALLY PREDOMINANTLY IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT.

UM, WE REALLY BELIEVE IN THE EXTENSION OF THE DOWNTOWN, UH, AND THE CONNECTION TO, TO MUSIC LANE AND TO SOKO DOWN TO THE SOUTH, UH, IN SORT OF PRESERVING, BUT ALSO, UH, COMBINING AND STITCHING AUSTIN'S CHARACTER, UH, AND CREATING A, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A SUM THAT'S, OR YEAH, LIKE A WHOLE, A WHOLE, YEAH, A HOLE THAT'S GREATER THAN SOME OF ITS PARTS, I GUESS.

UM, AND, AND WE'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO HELP CREATE AUSTIN'S NEXT GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO IN DOING SO, WE'VE REALLY KIND OF THOUGHT VERY SYSTEMATICALLY AND CAREFULLY ABOUT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SITE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND IF ANY OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, 500 SOUTH CONGRESS, IT'S OBVIOUSLY, UH, GOT EGOS ON IT, RIGHT? WHICH WILL MOST LIKELY BE THE ONLY THING, UH, THAT REMAINS AND, AND GETS, UH, RELOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE THINK IS, UM, A MAINSTAY OF AND, AND STAPLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, HOWEVER, THE, THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY IN ITS CURRENT STATE HA UH, LEAVES LITTLE TO BE DESIRED, RIGHT? YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE, UM, ACCESSIBLE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FRONTAGES, UH, TO THE NORTH OR TO THE EAST, UH, ALONG SOUTH CONGRESS AND, AND WEST RIVERSIDE.

UM, THE CENTER OF THE SITE IS BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, A GLORIFIED PARKING LOT, RIGHT? UM, WITH SOME TREES THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING SO WELL.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, YOU'VE ACTUALLY GOT THE CREEK WHERE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE RE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY RIGHT UP ON IT, UH, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 40 FEET.

UH, THERE'S ALSO A STEEP CONCRETE EMBANKMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY CREATING EROSION ON THE OTHER SIDE.

UM, AND, UH, ALSO ADDING TO SOME OF THE, THE FLOOD ISSUES AND THE FLOOD RESILIENCY ISSUES AS WELL AS THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

UM, BUT, BUT WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, UH, THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER SOCIAL ISSUES THAT ALSO WORK IN TANDEM WITH THESE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

SO BY PLACING SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS BACK IMMEDIATELY TO THE CREEK, YOU'RE ACTUALLY IGNORING IT IN A SENSE, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY CELEBRATING, UH, NATURE.

UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT RIGHT THERE ON TOP OF IT, UM, AND ALMOST DISRESPECTING IT.

SO, UH, NEXT IMAGE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SHOTS, UM, OF THE SITE.

YOU COULD SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF CONCRETE, A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, BUT THERE'S NOT A

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LOT OF ACTIVATION.

AND THAT ALSO MAKES FOR A LACK OF PERIMETER ENGAGEMENT AND A LACK OF SAFETY.

UH, CERTAINLY IT'S NOT A VERY DEFENSIBLE SPACE.

UM, AND SO WE'RE HERE TO, TO BRING BACK SOME OF THAT DEFENSIBILITY, UM, BUT ALSO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT MORE ENGAGING AND IN LINE WITH THE SOUL AND CHARACTER OF AUSTIN AND IN PARTICULAR, SOUTH AUSTIN.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, SWATHS OF PARKING LOT, RIGHT? I THINK THE FUTURE ISN'T GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.

UM, I KNOW IT'S TEXAS, I KNOW EVERYBODY DRIVES THE CAR, UH, BUT CERTAINLY IN SOUTH AUSTIN, UH, AND IN PARTICULAR IN THIS DISTRICT, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHICH IS GREAT.

AND WE'VE ALSO SEEN ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, THAT HAVE CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED TO ITS VIBRANCY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND, AND, AND THIS REALLY GETS TO, UH, THE CRUX OF THE MATTER HERE, WHICH IS THE DISREGARD FOR NATURE, UM, AND CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YEAH.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD AS THE CURRENT OWNER, IF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, UH, SPEAKING TO THE MIC.

SO THE REMOTE, THE REMOTE COMMISSIONERS CAN HEAR THIS FINE.

SORRY.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD AS, UH, AN OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF IS PUBLIC SAFETY IN, IN THE CREEK.

AND WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS FIRES.

UM, THE CREEK IS CONSISTENTLY LITTERED WITH TRASH.

AND ONE OF OUR, AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY INTERESTING IS EVERY TIME IT RAINS, WE ALWAYS GO OUT TO OUR OFFICE IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, BUT WE ALWAYS GO OUT AND WE KIND OF ASSESS AND MEASURE THE AMOUNT OF WATER VOLUME THAT ACTUALLY GOES INTO THAT LITTLE CULVERT THERE.

UM, AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS JUST THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE SO BAD FROM A FLOOD RESILIENCY PERSPECTIVE AND FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE'VE CHALLENGED ALL OF OUR CONSULTANTS TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, HOW DO WE TAKE WHAT EXISTS TODAY, RIGHT? AND ACTUALLY DO IT RIGHT? FORGET ABOUT WHATEVER THE RULES ARE TODAY, TELL US WHAT IS RIGHT.

HOW DO WE ACHIEVE ALL OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, WHICH IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATING THE CREEK EGGS.

HOW DO WE GET INCREDIBLE FLOOD RESILIENCE, AND HOW DO WE ACTUALLY RETURN THAT SPACE TO A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY AND FEEL SAFE, FEEL SAFE AROUND? SO, AND I THINK IF YOU TAKE KIND OF THOSE THREE GOALS, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

UH, YOU COULD SKIP THE NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UH, TO REITERATE WHAT MIKE SAID, IT COMES WITH BALANCING CONSIDERATIONS.

OBVIOUSLY, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, UM, VISION FRAMEWORK PLAN THAT WAS LAST ISSUED, UH, NOT MOST RECENTLY, BUT BEFORE THAT, UH, HAD A LOT OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS IN MIND, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING TRAILS AND CREATING RESPECTABLE, UH, SORT OF TRAIL DISTANCES, BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, AS WELL AS ALLEVIATING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT FROM THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND CREATING SOME KIND OF SYNTHESIS BETWEEN THE TWO, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH GREEN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT THE FLOODPLAIN AND OBVIOUSLY HOW IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS OUR SITE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND BECAUSE OF THE CULVERT THAT'S ACTUALLY THERE, RIGHT UP AGAINST SOUTH CONGRESS, WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOU ACTUALLY GET A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WATER THAT'S ACTUALLY BACKING UP ONTO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT IS, UH, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOVE GRADE PARKING LOT RIGHT NOW.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO DO SOMETHING, UH, AKIN TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE WE ACTUALLY, UH, CREATE AN INCREASE IN THE CAPACITY, UH, OR THE VOLUMETRIC CAPACITY OF THE CREEK, THEREBY DECREASING THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE ON OUR SITE.

SO THAT MEANS LESS POLLUTANTS IN THE WATER, LESS POLLUTANTS IN THE CREEK, UM, AND CERTAINLY BETTER WATER QUALITY OVERALL FOR THE CREEK AND CREEK HEALTH, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, REMOVING OF THE CONCRETE EMBANKMENT, WHICH WOULD MINIMIZE EROSION ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE CREEK.

UM, AND THEREBY ALSO ALLEVIATE, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, THE SORT OF LIKE BACKFLOW, UH, INTO OUR SITE AND INTO THE CREEK WITH WHATEVER POLLUTANTS ARE, ARE BELOW THE CULVERT THERE.

SO, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BUILDING A, A, A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES IN SOME WAYS PRIORITIZE PEOPLE.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO PRIORITIZE PEOPLE IS, IS IN FACT TO PRIORITIZE NATURE AS WELL.

UM, AND SO ANOTHER STRATEGY THAT WE'RE EMPLOYING HERE IS, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANIZE GRADE AND THEN PUTTING ALL OF THE PARKING BELOW GRADE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, AND IN DOING SO, WHAT WE ACTUALLY ARE NOW ABLE TO DO IS ACTUALLY PULL THE CREEK EDGE CLOSER TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND DO SO RESPECTFULLY.

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UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANT TO KIND OF GO BACK TO A SETBACK THAT'S CLOSER TO 60 FEET IS BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT 60 FEET IS ABOUT THE RIGHT DIMENSION, BOTH FROM A VOLUMETRIC CAPACITY STANDPOINT, AS I'VE JUST MENTIONED, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO ILLUMINATE THE CREEK AND CREATE A DEFENSIBLE SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY WALK EAST, WEST AT NIGHT AND FEEL SAFE AND HAVE A CLEAR VISIBLE LINES OF SIGHT TO WHERE IT IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GROW ACROSS THE SITE, AND MULTIPLE MODES OF EVASION OR INGRESS AND EGRESS, DEPENDING ON THAT, UH, WHAT WORD YOU WANT TO USE, UM, THEN WE BELIEVE THAT 60 FEET IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT DIMENSION TO DO SO.

UM, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, ADVANTAGES OF DOING THIS ALSO INCLUDE THE FACT THAT IF WE WANT TO TRA TRAVERSE ALONG THE EDGE OF THE CREEK, YOU'RE GIVING PEOPLE OPTIONALITY.

IT, IT COULD BE BIKE, RIGHT? IT COULD BE PET, UM, IT COULD BE SCOOTER, UM, BUT YOU'RE STILL CREATING A LOT OF PROTECTION FOR THE CREEK.

UM, AND IN DOING SO, AND IN REPATRIATING ITS EDGE, UM, GETTING RID OF THE CONCRETE EMBANKMENT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, AND RID OF THE INVASIVE SPECIES THAT ARE THERE, I THINK WHAT WE WILL ASPIRE TO DO IS ACTUALLY BEAUTIFY THE CREEK BEYOND A LOT OF THE CREEKS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PRESENTLY IN AUSTIN, UH, IN, IN THE SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY DON'T WANT TO NEGLECT IT AND GIVE IT OUR BACK.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL INTERVENTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE, UH, CERTAINLY THE REMOVAL OF 5% IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS COVER BEING REMOVED BETWEEN, BETWEEN THAT A HUNDRED FOOT, UH, SETBACK, UH, WATER QUALITY SETBACK, UM, PROTECTING AND PRESERVING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE HERITAGE TREES.

CERTAINLY, UH, 75% OF CALIPER INCHES ASSOCIATED WITH NATIVE AND PROTECTIVE TREES.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, RAINWATER HARVEST, UH, AND USE THAT IN MOST OF OUR IRRIGATION, ABOUT 50% OF OUR LANDSCAPE AREAS, UH, WITH SOME STORM WATER, ALSO BEING ABLE TO DIRECT TO THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPE INTERVENTIONS.

UH, AND THEN, UH, WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED BELOW GRADE PARKING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT EV CHARGE, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 10% OF EV CHARGING, UH, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT NEW AND EXPANDED ACCESS TO EAST BOLD CREEK, UH, AND MONETIZING IT TO PROVIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, A NATURAL PUBLIC PROMENADE, A CONNECTION TO THE TEXAS SCHOOL OF THE DEAF, A BOARDWALK, UH, POTENTIALLY ALONG, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS, UM, AND, UM, TO INCREASE, UH, BASICALLY THE NATURAL AND LOCAL WILDLIFE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, RIPARIAN RESTORATION IS ACTUALLY AT THE, AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS, RIGHT? UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING TO MAKE THAT EDGE LOOK AS NATURAL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS BEAUTIFUL AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE AESTHETIC EXPERIENCE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS, IS GONNA GO THERE AND ACTUALLY, UH, RESPECT, RIGHT? UM, YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO TAKE PRIDE, UH, IN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.

UM, I THINK THE MANAGEMENT OF INVASIVE SPECIES, BANK, STABILIZATIONS, WE'VE ALL MENTIONED, BUT SOIL ENHANCEMENT IS ANOTHER, UH, THING THAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO DO.

THE SOIL DOWN THERE ISN'T VERY GREAT AT THE MOMENT.

UM, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES AND, AND THAT ARE DYING, AND THERE'S A LOT OF WEEDS IN THERE.

UM, AND WE ALSO BELIEVE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, CREATING A HABITAT FOR LOCAL BEES AND POLLINATORS, UM, USING NATIVE PLANTS.

UM, ON SITE WE WILL CREATE AMPLE TERRACE AND ROOFTOP AMENITY SPACE FOR TENANTS, UH, SOME OF WHICH WILL BE, UH, NATURALIZED TO A DEGREE, UM, BUT WILL ALSO REQUIRE MINIMAL, UM, IRRIGATION.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE ASPIRE TO INCORPORATE, UH, SOME REALLY INTERESTING, UM, SORT OF PUBLIC INTERVENTIONS AS WELL, SUCH AS URBAN GARDENS, VERTICAL GREEN WALLS, UP TO A HUNDRED FEET OF TRAIL.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT AN ENTRANCE TO DEVELOPMENT, UH, ON SOUTH CONGRESS TO THE CREEK, ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF LANDSCAPING AT GRADE, ANYWHERE FROM 200 TO 300 LINEAR FEET OF BIKE PATHS ON SITE, 2000 SQUARE FEET OF RECREATIONAL COURTS AND PLACE SPACES, WHICH WE THINK IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL, UH, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, DARK SKIES, COMPLIANT LIGHTING, UM, JUST SO THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, CREATING A LOT OF NOISE POLLUTION.

UH, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ARE AMBITIOUS, UH, AND TECHNICALLY AMBITIOUS AT THAT.

SO HAVING A LEAD SILVER RATING FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL, UH, PRODUCT AND A GOLD, UH, RATING FOR ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL OFFICE PRODUCT, UH, IS IMPORTANT TO US.

AND WE ASPIRE TO BE THE FIRST PROJECT IN THE US TO PURSUE A SUSTAINABLE SITES PRE-CERTIFICATION, UH, TARGETING A MINIMUM SILVER

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RATING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU GUYS.

UM, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, UM, PROVIDING THOSE SLIDES, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US.

UM, JUST IF, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE EMAILING TO ELIZABETH AND SHE CAN SEND 'EM OUT TO THE COMMISSION, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

UM, I GUESS MAY, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR, OR THE STAFF, BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST KIND OF FRAME UP WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS SO WE ALL GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHERE WE ARE IMMEDIATELY, WHAT'S TO COME.

UM, I, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T THE, THE LAST TIME YOU'LL BE POTENTIALLY TALKING TO US, SO I WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY FRAMEWORK FOR THEIR QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT IS BASICALLY LIKE A LOOK SEAT AT WHAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROPOSING WHEN THEY FILE FOR A ZONING CASE FOR THE ACTUAL PUD ZONING.

SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF PRELIMINARY VIEW OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO ON THE SITE, AND WE BRING IT TO YOU AND TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A BRIEFING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTARY FROM YOU OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, SO THAT THEY WILL KNOW HOW TO BETTER PREPARE THEIR ZONING APPLICATION WHEN THEY FILE FOR THE PUD.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, UM, LET'S START REMOTE, UM, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, BUT, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF ABOUT, UH, THIS FIRST LOOKE THAT WE'VE GOT? IF SO, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

ALL RIGHT, PERRY, YOU'RE UP.

OKAY.

UM, I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS IF YOU COULD, IF YOU KNEW WHAT KIND OF INVASIVE SPECIES THAT YOU HAVE FOR PLANTS.

CHRIS, DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY.

I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IN THAT CREEK TODAY, I, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO, FOR ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM OR REALLY, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ANY ONE OF MY CHILDREN TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

UM, IT IS KIND OF A MESS OF A DEGRADING CONCRETE EMBANKMENT, BUNCH OF DEAD TREES, AND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GARBAGE, WHICH WE, ON A REGULAR BASIS GO OUT AND TRY TO CLEAN UP AND REALLY NEVER GET THROUGH IT.

UM, BUT WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, A FULL SURVEY OF EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, CHRIS JACKSON, I THINK IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS, AND HE WILL ADVISE US AS TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S SHOULDN'T BE THERE, WHAT SHOULD BE THERE, AND WHAT YOU NEED MORE OF.

MM-HMM.

, WE, WE, WE WILL HAVE A FULL LIST FOR, UM, FORMAL PET SUBMISSION.

UM, WE'RE STILL CATALOGING ALL OF THAT NOW.

UH, AND WE'VE GOT SIGLO GROUP, TBG, AND TERRACON, UH, DOING MULTIPLE SURVEYS, UH, OF THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, CREEK BED.

OKAY.

AND ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD, I WAS CURIOUS, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED, UM, POSSIBLE INTERNSHIPS FOR THE STUDENTS AT THE TECH SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF, AND SO I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS, UM, IF THOSE WERE LIKE, ONCE THEY REACHED A CERTAIN, IF IT WAS LIKE WHEN THEY'RE GETTING READY TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT'S WHEN THE INTERNSHIPS WERE, OR IF IT WAS KIND OF AS THEY'RE ATTENDING HIGHS ATTENDING THE SCHOOL, AND, UM, IF THOSE, IF THERE, LIKE, WOULD THEY BE ENVIRONMENTAL INTERNSHIPS OR WOULD IT JUST KIND OF BE WHAT DEPENDS ON WHAT BUSINESSES ARE IN THAT AREA? SO, SO THIS IDEA REALLY KIND OF CAME OUT OF A MEETING THAT WE HAD.

IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WITH THE SCHOOL OF DEAF WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT KIND OF, WE BOTH OBVIOUSLY WERE, WE'RE NEW NEIGHBORS AND WE WERE INTRODUCING OURSELVES, AND WE STARTED ASKING THEM ABOUT KIND OF WHAT THEY WOULD WANT AND WHAT THEY WOULD WANT KIND OF OUT OF A DEVELOPMENT, UH, IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT KIND OF CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING.

AND I THINK THE THOUGHT IS THERE WOULD BE CERTAINLY OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH, UH, KIDS WHO ARE CURRENTLY AT THE SCHOOL AND THEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, POSTGRADUATE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, GET SOME EXPERIENCE IN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORKING WORLD.

AND I THINK, UM, THE PROXIMITY IS REALLY INTERESTING.

AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, THE, THE SCHOOL OF THE DEAF AND, AND, AND CERTAINLY ALL OF THE, THE FACULTY AT THE SCHOOL I THINK APPRECIATE IS, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY TODAY, WHILE YOU CAN GO BY, UM, YOU KNOW, A PAIR OF LIKE LULULEMON PANTS ON SOUTH CONGRESS, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IS EAT LUNCH, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T GET A SANDWICH, RIGHT?

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UM, AND THE IDEA OF OUR, UM, OF OUR DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY CREATE A PLACE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY CAN GATHER AND KIND OF, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE KIND OF BASIC NEEDS THAT ARE MISSING FROM THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, IF YOU WANT, AGAIN, YOU CAN GET A PAIR OF LULULEMON PANTS, YOU CANNOT GET A HEAD OF LETTUCE, RIGHT? YOU CANNOT GET ANY OF YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED.

THERE'S NO LOCAL COFFEE SHOP, RIGHT? ALL OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE COMMUNITY DON'T EXIST THERE TODAY.

AND THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, AT THE 500 SOUTH CONGRESS PROJECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MM-HMM, .

ANYBODY ELSE REMOTE? GOT QUESTIONS? YEAH.

KRUGER, PLEASE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, THE VISUALS WERE REALLY HELPFUL.

I PROBABLY COULD HAVE WATCHED THE WHOLE VIDEO.

IT WAS VERY ENGAGING, SO THANK YOU TO WHOMEVER, UH, PUT THAT TOGETHER.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR US TO ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT TO EXPECT.

UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE VERTICAL GREEN WALLS THAT ARE PLANNED AND WHERE YOU'RE ENVISIONING THOSE WILL BE AND WHAT THOSE WILL LOOK LIKE, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, AGAIN, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TRAVEL, YOU GET, UM, INSPIRED BY, UH, WHAT OTHER FOLKS DO REALLY WELL.

AND ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IS I WAS IN, UH, SCOTTSDALE OF ALL PLACES, AND THERE WAS A DEVELOPER, UH, I BELIEVE THEIR NAME IS OPTIMA, AND THEY CREATED THESE BUILDINGS WHERE, UM, THEY HAVE THESE PLANTERS ON THEIR TERRACES AND THESE GREEN WALL SYSTEMS THAT WERE INCREDIBLY VIBRANT AND SOME OF THE BEST THAT I HAD EVER SEEN.

AND YOU, YOU KNOW, AS A, CERTAINLY AS A DEVELOPER AND ANYBODY IN DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION, YOU KIND OF LEARN THE MOST FROM YOUR FAILURES.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED GREEN WALLS IN CHICAGO, WE'VE TRIED GREEN WALLS IN NEW YORK, AND IN CERTAIN CASES WE WERE SUCCESSFUL.

IN CERTAIN CASES WE WERE NOT.

AND, UH, THESE FOLKS HAVE ACTUALLY CRACKED THE CODE, IN MY OPINION.

UM, AND THERE'S, UH, THERE WAS A PROFESSOR AT ARIZONA STATE WHO ACTUALLY DESIGNED, UM, THESE PLANTERS AND GREEN WALLS FOR THEM.

AND, UH, THEY CREATED A REALLY CLEVER, UM, IRRIGATION SYSTEM WHERE, UM, THEY WERE TAKING OUT OF THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM AND THEN REASONING THEM IN THE PLANTERS.

UM, AND THEN THEY, IT CONNECTED, UH, SOME DRAINAGE AND THEY HAD A NUTRIENT PROGRAM, AND THEY'VE GOT A PLANTING PROGRAM.

AND ACTUALLY WHEN FOLKS MOVE IN, THEY CAN CHOOSE THEIR OWN PLANTS AND THEY KIND OF CREATE THEIR OWN LITTLE GARDEN OUT IN THEIR TERRACE.

UM, AND I THINK THE SAME WALL, SAME THING IS DONE WITH THE GREEN WALL.

SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, UH, AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD WORK HERE.

I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THE EXACT SAME SPECIES OF PLANTS THAT WORK IN ARIZONA WILL WORK IN, UH, IN AUSTIN, BUT MY GUESS IS IT'S PROBABLY RELATIVELY SIMILAR.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE IN TERMS OF THE, LIKE, WHERE THE GREEN WALLS WOULD ACTUALLY BE, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE FAR ENOUGH ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL DESIGN TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, GREEN INTERVENTIONS WILL BE IN PLACES THAT HAVE KIND OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF IMPACT BECAUSE WE DO THINK IT'S A, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY, UM, POWERFUL KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL TOOL TO REALLY CREATE A GREAT ENVIRONMENT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU IN, IN THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOUR PLANNING AND MAXIMIZING, UH, GREEN SPACE PERHAPS FOR THE, THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, IF THERE COULD BE PLACES FOR, UH, A COMMUNITY GARDEN ON THE ROOFTOP, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE ADDITION.

I THINK I SAW IN THE PLANS THAT THERE ARE ROOFTOP PATIOS.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA PUT IN MY 2 CENTS THERE.

UM, I'M ALSO CURIOUS IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT CONTROLS THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THE BRIEFING SUMMARY SHEET.

IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHAT YOU ALL ARE ANTICIPATING WITH THAT.

UH, SO HONESTLY, IT'S STILL EARLY DAYS.

UM, WE'RE STILL KIND OF PUTTING TOGETHER OUR OWN, UH, RESEARCH AND BRIEF AT THE MOMENT WITH, UM, THE SIGLO GROUP IN PARTICULAR.

UM,

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WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THAT, HOPEFULLY FOR OUR FIRST FORMAL PUD SUBMISSION THAT IS OUR TARGET.

UM, BUT UNTIL THEN, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF LIKE GATHERING ALL THE INFORMATION.

SO, UM, WE FOCUS PREDOMINANTLY ON, UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, KEY PROBLEMS AND PARAMETERS AT THE MOMENT, WHICH ARE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SPATIAL ALLOCATIONS ARE CORRECT AND WE'VE GOT ENOUGH, UM, RESIDUAL SPACE, UH, RESIDUAL OPEN SPACE, CERTAINLY, UH, TO, TO PROGRAM AND, AND, UH, EXERCISE SOME OF THESE, UH, GREEN INTERVENTIONS.

UH, BUT UNTIL WE GET TO A POINT IN OUR RESEARCH WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY LIKE COMFORTABLE, UM, GETTING CREATIVE WITH THAT, UH, I THINK WE'D RATHER HOLD OFF ON, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ANY OF THAT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I APPRECIATE YOU USING THE WORD CREATIVE.

UM, I WOULD HOPE, AND THE WORD, YOU KNOW, THE TERM GREEN INTERVENTION, I THINK I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU CAN FIND A CREATIVE GREEN INTERVENTION FOR PEST MANAGEMENT BECAUSE, UM, WHILE I HAVEN'T LIVED IN NEW YORK CITY, I HAVE LIVED IN BOSTON, AND YOU ALL MIGHT BE FAMILIAR THAT THEY UNVEILED A, UH, A POISONOUS RODENTICIDE, UM, PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE BOSTON AREA THAT HAS REALLY HAD, OF COURSE, A CASCADING EFFECT TO OTHER CREATURES WHO THEN, INCLUDING DOMESTIC DOGS WHO COME AND, YOU KNOW, TRY AND EAT THE DEAD RATS THAT HAVE ALL THIS POISON.

SO, UM, I I JUST ASK THAT YOU USE AN ENVIRONMENTAL LENS WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE PEST MANAGEMENT.

A ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WANNA GIVE TIME FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, OR ASK QUESTIONS.

EXCUSE ME.

MY LAST ONE WILL BE, UM, THE RECREATIONAL SPACES THAT YOU MENTIONED.

ARE THOSE ANTICIPATED TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR ONLY FOR RES? WE, WE LIKELY WILL HAVE A, A A MIX OF BOTH.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, IS INTERESTING AS YOU START THINKING ABOUT, UM, PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AND, UM, AND GREEN SPACE IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, HAPPENS IN URBAN PLANNING IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, ALL RIGHT, WELL, THERE, THERE'S AN ARBITRARY THING.

LET'S SAY IT'S 50% OPEN SPACE OR WHATEVER THE KIND OF THE PERCENTAGES THAT SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH.

AND THEN WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS YOU END UP WITH THESE DEVELOPMENT TYPOLOGIES WHERE YOU'VE GOT THIS SQUARE GREEN LAWN WHERE THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNER GOES CRAZY.

UM, AND, AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE TOWERS.

SO YOU HAVE LIKE A TOWERS IN THE PARK, TYPOLOGY AND TOWERS IN THE PARK.

TYPOLOGIES FOR US, ARE KIND OF THE WORST TYPE OF TYPOLOGY BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO INTO THAT CENTER LAWN, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE INHERENTLY SUPPOSED TO DO THERE.

SO MY KIDS, FOR EXAMPLE, FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE THROWING A FOOTBALL IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, FOUR TOWERS ON A NICELY MANICUR MANICURED LAWN.

AND AN ADULT ALSO FEELS KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE LYING DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT FEELS KIND OF LIKE A PUBLIC PARK.

AND YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE EATING LUNCH THERE.

YOU DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THERE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO GREEN SPACE AND, AND OUR, AND ONE OF OUR BIGGEST GOALS IS, IS HOW DO WE MAKE PLACES THAT PEOPLE INHERENTLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THEY GET THERE? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A PLAYGROUND IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A SPACE WHERE YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO EAT LUNCH THERE, OR YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PLAY FOOTBALL THERE.

WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IS PLAY IN THE PLAYGROUND, RIGHT? OR THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE MORE MEANT FOR DINING.

THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE MORE MEANT FOR SITTING WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND HAVING A CONVERSATION.

SO I THINK ALL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS CREATE PLACES WHERE THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE CAN GATHER IN, IN, IN PLACES THAT THEY INHERENTLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

AND WE THINK THAT THOSE TYPES OF PUBLIC PLACES ARE KIND OF THE BEST TYPES OF PUBLIC SPACES IN THE CITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S, THERE'S AREAS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, ZILKER PARK WHERE THEY'RE JUST WIDE OPEN FIELDS, AND IT'S KIND OF, YOU CAN, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT YOU CAN DO THERE.

YOU CAN GO PLAY SOCCER, RIGHT? THERE'S ALL THESE PICKUP GAMES, THERE'S CONCERTS, THERE'S MUSICAL EVENTS, IT'S GREAT.

AND, BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THAT MORE URBAN BUILT ENVIRONMENT, I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE MUCH MORE PURPOSEFUL WITH THE SPACES SO PEOPLE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THERE.

THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE VIEW THOSE.

AND RECREATION MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS AND AGE GROUPS, AND THAT'S

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SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE VERY, VERY CONSIDERATE ABOUT, BECAUSE WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS, DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS PLAY AND ENJOY SPACE ENTIRELY DIFFERENTLY.

UM, SOME PEOPLE WANT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING A LITTLE SLOWER OR A LITTLE SLOWER PACED, AND SOME PEOPLE REALLY WANT KIND OF LIKE AN INTENSE, UH, YOU KNOW, ENGAGING IN ENGROSSING ENVIRONMENT.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, I MEAN, I PLAY SOCCER, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA BE KICKING A BALL AND MAKING PASSERS BY ON THEIR BIKES OR WHATNOT, OR LADIES PLAYING MAHJONG, FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT CHILDREN RUNNING IN TO THE SPACE BETWEEN ME AND THE OTHER PLAYER AND GETTING INJURED.

AND I THINK IT'S THE SAME FOR EACH DEMOGRAPHIC AND HOW IT IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY USE SPACE.

IT MEANS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

SO RECREATION TO ME, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE FAST PACED UNTIL YOU LIKE, TEAR YOUR MENISCUS AND , YOU KNOW, RECREATION TO SOMEBODY ELSE MEANS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AS INCLUSIVE, UM, AS POSSIBLE.

MM-HMM, , THANK YOU.

YEAH.

I THINK MY SALIENT CURIOSITY IS REALLY AROUND, IS THIS GOING TO BE A RECREATIONAL AREA REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S A PLAYGROUND OR MAHJONG OR WHATEVER THAT'S OPENED THAT'S OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC, OR WILL IT ONLY BE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT? NO, I MEAN, THE, LIKE, THE, THE ENTIRE GROUND FLOOR SPACE IS ALL, IS ALL PUBLICLY ACCESS ACCESSIBLE.

UM, AS YOU GO UP IN THE BUILDINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, A TERRACE ON THE 45TH FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IS MOST LIKELY GONNA BE PRIVATE.

OUR GOAL IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SECOND FLOOR AND THIRD FLOOR PUBLIC SPACES, BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT ALL PARKS NEED TO BE AT GROUND PLANE.

AND WE THINK IN A LOT OF CASES, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LITTLE THREE DIMENSIONALITY TO THE PUBLIC REALM IS A LOT MORE INTERESTING THAN HAVING A ONE DIMENSIONAL PUBLIC REALM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'LL LET, I'LL PASS THE BATON ON TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAS QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

PRIMER, GO FOR IT.

YOU'RE ON MUTE.

YOU, YOU MAY, YEAH.

NO, I, I CAN'T MAKE MY COMPUTER WORK.

UH, OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION.

I GUESS RATHER THAN GO INTO THINGS ON A KIND OF A CASE BY CASE BASIS AS, UH, MARIANA MENTIONED AND ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR TIME.

UH, BROADLY SPEAKING, UH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH EXHIBITS F AND G AND WITH REGARD TO F THERE'S A LONG LIST OF ITEMS ON HERE THAT FALL IN THE CATEGORY OF, UH, PERMITTED USES UNDER ZONING.

AND, UH, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING IS THE PUD BE PRIMARILY A RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH SOME OFFICE SPACE, AND THE OFFICE SPACE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, GENERAL PURPOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES, PLUS SOME RESTAURANTS AND SOME OTHER TYPES OF THINGS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS LIST OF PERMITTED USES, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE URBAN FARMS AND, UH, AUTOMOBILE SALES AND THINGS LIKE THIS.

AND SO MY CONCERNS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, I'M JUST SPEAKING MY CONCERNS, MY CONCERNS AS I GO THROUGH THIS, THIS EXTREMELY LONG LIST OF THINGS LIKE AUTOMOTIVE RENTAL, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SERVICES.

IF, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR PURPOSE OF THIS POD IS TO DO CERTAIN SPECIFIC THINGS, IS THERE REALLY A NECESSITY TO HAVE THESE OTHER ITEMS ON HERE? UH, BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE KIND OF EXTRANEOUS THINGS LIKE, UH, UH, INDOOR SPORTS RECREATION, UH, OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, SPORTS STUFF, LIGHT MANUFACTURING.

THESE THINGS SEEM TO BE, UH, LIKE OUTSIDE THE REALM OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

NOW IF YOU GO TO EXHIBIT G, WHICH IS THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, CITY STAFF AS THEY REVIEWED IT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT STUFF, UH, BY THE ARBORIST REVIEW AND THEY MENTIONED THINGS THAT, UH, AND IT MAY BE THE PROBLEM I HAVE MAY BE THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO PROPERLY CROSS REFERENCE SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN ALL OF THIS STUFF.

AND SO IT MAY BE THAT YOU'VE ADEQUATELY ANSWERED IT SOMEWHERE IN HERE, AND I'VE JUST MENTIONED MISSED IT, AND THAT'S OKAY TOO.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, UH, ARBORIST REVIEW SEEMS TO QUESTION THE, UH, ABILITY OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU PLAN TO MEET TIER ONE AND TIER TWO REQUIREMENTS.

UH, THE FLOODPLAIN, THERE'S

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A MENTION ABOUT THE FLOODPLAIN IN HERE, AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

YOU'RE BUILDING WITHIN A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.

AND MY CONCERN IS, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST BROADLY SPEAKING IS FLOODPLAINS.

YEAH, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A REALLY GOOD IDEA, UH, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF FLOODS THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THEIR INCREASING FREQUENCY.

UH, YOU KNOW, LESLIE LILLY, WHO THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICE MENTIONED A NUMBER OF ITEMS HERE, UH, AS WELL.

UH, THE HYDROGEOLOGIST MENTIONED SOME STUFF REGARDING THE SETBACK AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FORMAL, UH, SUBMITTALS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, GOING ON AND ON AND ON.

THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS IN HERE THAT I DON'T SEE THAT HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THE SUBMISSION.

UM, NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS INTERESTING, THE SLIGHT PLAN REVIEW MENTIONED THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR.

AND, UH, IT HAD, IT ASKED ABOUT, UH, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS.

AND I KNOW I'M, I'M ONLY SLIGHTLY FAMILIAR WITH THE CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR REQUIREMENTS, BUT MY VAGUE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS IT LIMITS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE CAPITAL OF VIEW OF, OF THE CAPITAL, UH, FROM VARIOUS ANGLES.

BUT YOU'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, QUESTIONS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, RELATIVE TO THE CAPITAL VIEW.

SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

UM, LET'S SEE.

UH, I'LL TAKE THIS ONE AND THIS ONE.

SO, I MEAN, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO, TO ADDRESS EVERY RESPONSE.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN YOU COME BACK FOR A FORMAL REVIEW, MY EXPECTATION IS THAT THESE ITEMS WILL BE ADDRESSED POINT BY POINT.

UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I MEAN, UH, SHERRY, UH, HAS UH, MENTIONED A NUMBER OF ITEMS IN HERE ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE, UH, BUILDINGS AS WELL.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR, AT SOME POINT WHEN YOU COME BACK FOR A FORMAL REVIEW, ALL THESE ITEMS THEN BROUGHT UP BY CITY STAFF AS WELL AS THE, UH, ZONING ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN, IN, UH, WHAT IS IT EXHIBIT F, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR IN THERE.

SO CAN WE PAIR THESE BACK TO SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE REALITY BASED UPON WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED IN THE VIDEO, UM, THAT YOU'VE SHOWN? 'CAUSE I DON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, THERE'S NO AUTO REPAIR SERVICES AS PART OF YOUR VIDEO THERE.

AND THAT BEING THE CASE, DO WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT AS A PERMITTED USE ON THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PUD, UH, OR CAN WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE DROP THAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ADDRESS EVERY ONE OF THEM RIGHT NOW.

MY EXPECTATION IS WHEN YOU COME BACK FOR APPROVAL THAT UH, YOU'VE ADDRESSED ALL THIS STUFF.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS LONG LIST OF, YOU KNOW, PERMITTED USES PAIRED BACK LIKE 70% BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT AN URBAN FARM ON THAT PLACE.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE INDOOR URBAN CROP PRODUCTION, UH, CUSTOM MANUFACTURING AND VEHICLE STORAGE THERE.

SO I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN PROBABLY DROP THOSE WITHOUT GIVING IT A LOT OF THOUGHT.

AND IF YOU CAN'T DROP 'EM, THEN YOU'RE REALLY KINDA NOT PRESENTING THE ENTIRE PROPOSAL CORRECTLY.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S IT.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANKS.

MAYBE JUST TAKE A, A FEW SECONDS TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ANSWER A FEW OF THE ONES THAT I THINK THAT WE CAN.

UM, SO ON THE USES, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN I, I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A LOT OF THESE USES AS WE'RE USED TO THINKING ABOUT THEM, RIGHT? SO YOU THINK OF A CAR DEALER, RIGHT? YOU THINK OF COVERT WITH LIKE 18,000 F THINK ABOUT THE RIVIAN DEALERSHIP THAT'S ON SOUTH CONGRESS, WHICH IS KIND OF A SHOWROOM FOR THE NEW ELECTRIC CARS.

AND WE ARE FINDING THAT A LOT OF THE ELECTRIC CAR MANUFACTURERS ARE ACTUALLY TAKING RETAIL SPACE IN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS.

SO AS WE START THINKING ABOUT IT, WE SAID, YEAH, ARE WE GONNA BUILD, YOU KNOW, COVERTS F-150 DEALERSHIP ON THIS SITE? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

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BUT AS WE READ THROUGH AND WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, AN URBAN FARM, I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, KIND OF URBAN FARMING AND ROOFTOP GARDENS.

AND THAT KIND OF FELT TO US LIKE AN URBAN FARM.

SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET RID OF IT.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AND WE THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW COMPANIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, WE THINK ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, A CHILDREN'S STORE WHERE THEY 3D PRINT TOYS.

THAT'S TECHNICALLY URBAN MANUFACTURING.

DO I THINK, RIGHT? DO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO MANUFACTURE, YOU KNOW, LIKE BOATS ON THE SITE? NO, BUT THERE ARE I THINK A LOT OF NEW VERSIONS OF WHAT I THINK COULD BE CATEGORIZED WITHIN SOME OF THESE OLD CATEGORIES THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP OPEN THAT I DON'T THINK ARE PARTICULARLY OBJECTIONABLE.

BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

UM, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU THIS.

UH, AND I CLEARLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND NOT ANYONE ELSE.

I'M UNIMPRESSED.

UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT IDEA THAN THAT BECAUSE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN SO YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU RIGHT NOW YOU SAY, OH, WELL I'M GONNA HAVE A RIVIAN DE DEALERSHIP THERE.

I'M AT TWO RIVIAN PARKED THERE.

THAT ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A COVERT BUICK DEALERSHIP THERE TOO.

SO, YOU KNOW, PICK ONE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE WHICH ONE, PICK ONE, YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A CAR DEALERSHIP THERE OR YOU'RE NOT.

EITHER IT'S GOING TO BE A OFFICE COMPLEX WITH SOME HOUSING THERE, OR IT'S GONNA BE A CAR DEALERSHIP AND YOU GET TO PICK ONE.

AND THIS IS MY, NOW I'M GIVING MY PERSONAL FEEDBACK.

I DO NOT SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE, BUT I'M KIND OF EVALUATING THIS BASED UPON WHAT I SEE HERE.

AND WHEN I SEE URBAN FARMING AND INDOOR FARMING AND AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SERVICES AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, I KINDA HAVE TO THINK REALLY WHAT THE POINT, IF THIS IS THE, IF YOU KNOW, THE, THE VIDEO THAT YOU, YOU SHOWED WAS VERY COMPELLING.

IT WAS VERY, VERY SALESY AS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF, UH, PERMITTED SERVICES, UH, IT DIDN'T HAVE A CAR DEALERSHIP, IT DIDN'T HAVE LIGHT MANUFACTURING, IT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THIS OTHER STUFF THERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, OKAY, ALRIGHT, WELL WE, WE, WE WILL, WE WILL COME, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH, UM, SOME REVISIONS TO THE LIST THAT WE THINK WORK.

UM, OKAY.

AND AGAIN, THE OTHER THING WAS THE OTHER EXHIBIT G, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY STAFF FEEDBACK WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THEY PERCEIVED.

THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED AND IT MAY BE ADDRESSED IN SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT YOU PROVIDED IN HERE.

I DIDN'T SEE IT.

THAT MAY BE AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART 'CAUSE I WASN'T DILIGENT ENOUGH IN READING THROUGH IT ALL.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL THESE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN HERE BY MEMBERS OF THE STAFF, UH, ADDRESSED HOWEVER YOU PERCEIVE THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

OKAY.

WHATEVER THAT MEANS.

I, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO THESE THINGS, BUT I NEED TO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 'EM ADDRESSED IN SOME MANNER.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S ALRIGHT.

WE, WE LOOK, WE APP WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND WE WILL, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

ALRIGHT.

NICHOLS, YOU GOT ANYTHING? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

LET'S GO AROUND THE HORN HERE.

KESH, YOU'RE UP IF YOU GOT ANYTHING? YEAH.

UM, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE BIG CITY VACATION, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT A WORD, I'M GONNA USE IT AS A PHRASE OF THE OH FOUR CONTINUES, ALTHOUGH FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, THIS SITE IS KIND OF CURRENTLY A, A CONCRETE HELL HOLE, SO MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT GREENER IS PROBABLY AN IMPROVEMENT.

YOU KNOW, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS COULD NOT STAY A HOME TO, UH, HOOTERS AND CHICKEN FRIED STEAK SHACKS FOR OUR ENTIRE EXISTENCE.

SO I GET IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL QUESTION, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW PEOPLE MOSTLY JUST GO FOR EGOS.

THEY'RE RIGHT.

UNLESS YOU LIVE THERE OR WORK IN ONE OF THE OFFICES FROM THE VIDEO, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN IT INTO LIKE A, BASICALLY LIKE A MUSIC LANE DOMAIN TYPE OF THING.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VALUE PROPOSITION FOR SOUTH AUSTIN HAS KIND OF BEEN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE A, A MORE COUNTRY SOUL THAN MAYBE LIKE THE NORTH SIDE, RIGHT? UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING SPECIAL ATTENTION PAID TO, UH, TO GREEN SPACES IS, IS DEFINITELY SUPER COOL AS FAR AS LIKE THE CREEK AND, YOU KNOW, THE BIKE TRAILS THAT ARE PROPOSED.

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UM, ARE THE BIKE TRAILS GONNA BE ALONG THE CREEK? ARE THEY GOING TO BE SORT OF LIKE IN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, UH, LIKE AROUND THE, THE PARKS OR RECREATION SPACES? UM, WHAT DO Y'ALL SORT OF FORESEE FOR THAT? SO I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE NOTICED IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT KIND OF THE BIKE AND PED INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE CITY, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE LIKE, WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT, RIGHT? WHERE YOU CAN DRIVE LIKE THE, LIKE THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN PAST SILK OR PARK AND THEN THE NEW, UM, UH, SIDEWALKS THAT THEY BUILT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THE BRIDGE.

I MEAN THAT'S SOME WHAT WE THINK IS LIKE INCREDIBLE BIKE AND PET INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE THINK