[CALL TO ORDER]
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UH, LET ME CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION, THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MARCH 6TH, AND IT IS ABOUT 6:04 PM I AM BEN HEIM SETH CHAIR, AND WE WILL REVIEW THE AGENDA.
UH, AFTER WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS, WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR, UH, CONSENT ITEMS, THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR POSTPONEMENT ITEMS, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE UP THE DISCUSSION CASES.
BUT LET ME FIRST, UH, ASK OUR STAFF, UH, SAM, WOULD YOU CALL ROLE? ABSOLUTELY.
COMMISSIONER BEN HEIM, PRESENT, COMMISSIONER WHIT FEATHERSTON PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER KEVIN COOK, PRESENT COMMISSIONER CARL LAROCHE.
PRESENT, COMMISSIONER TREY MCWHORTER.
PRESENT, COMMISSIONER HARMONY GROGAN PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER HEAY ALVAREZ IS ABSENT TODAY.
COMMISSIONER ROXANNE EVANS, RESIDENT COMMISSIONER RAYMOND CASTILLO.
WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT LATE TODAY.
COMMISSIONER JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO IS ABSENT.
COMMISSIONER TARA DUDLEY IS ABSENT.
[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION? THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIC TO, UH, ANY AGENDA ITEM, BUT ARE MORE GENERAL IN NATURE.WE DO HAVE SOME GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS TODAY.
FIRST OFF, WE HAVE SAMANTHA SMOOT.
UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I KNOW, UH, WHIT, YOU HAD, UH, JUST ONE OTHER THING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE.
YEAH, I, I WAS GONNA TACK ALONG AT THE END, BUT I'LL DO IT NOW.
I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PASSING OF ANTON BRADOCK, WHO'S THE ARCHITECT WHO DESIGNED THIS BUILDING WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
IT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, AND I'M NOT, I DON'T GET TO SPEND 40 HOURS A WEEK HERE AS SOME DO, AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A HARSHER CRITICISM OF HIS EFFORTS.
BUT I, FOR ONE, UH, ENJOY COMING HERE EVERY MONTH, AND I APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS VERY MUCH SO.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.
UH, THANK YOU FOR MARKING THAT PASSING.
AND CERTAINLY WE LIVE, WE LIVE WITH THE, UH, GOOD EFFECTS OF THAT CREATIVITY AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO CALL IT?
UH, SO THE FIRST SPEAKER, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND EVERY TIME YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE READ YOUR NAME INTO THE RECORD.
HI, MY NAME IS SAMANTHA SMOOT.
UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING A GROUP OF 17 TRAVIS HEIGHTS NEIGHBORS, AND WE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT OF A HISTORIC PROPERTY THAT THIS COMMISSION A YEAR AGO DENIED A DEMOLITION, UH, PERMIT FOR.
UH, THIS IS 4 0 9 EAST MONROE.
IT'S A HISTORIC COMMANDING TWO STORY HOUSE ON A BUSY INTERSECTION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST AND COMMUNITY INTEREST, UH, IN THIS HOME.
AND OF COURSE, IT'S A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, TWO OR THREE, A NEW OWNER PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM THE ELDERLY COUPLE THAT LIVES ACROSS THE STREET AND TOLD THEM HE INTENDED TO PRESERVE IT.
INSTEAD, HE, UH, ATTEMPTED TO DEMOLISH IT.
HE HIRED A DEMO COMPANY AND LITERALLY NEIGHBORS INTERVENED AS THE BULLDOZERS WERE APPROACHING THE HOUSE.
AND SO, UM, HE THEN FOLLOWED THE PROCESS AND CAME TO THIS COMMISSION TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR HIS DEMOLITION.
UM, THIS WAS IN YOUR JANUARY MEETING LAST YEAR.
YOU DENIED THE DEMOLITION REQUEST AND INSTRUCTED THE OWNER TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF THE ORIGINAL MAIN HOME.
AND AT THE MARCH MEETING, THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
THERE WAS A PLAN TO PRESERVE THE SHELL OF THE STRUCTURE DEMO DEMOLISH THE GARAGE APARTMENT.
UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE THEN, THE HOME HAS BEEN LARGELY UNSECURED AND UNINTENDED.
THE OWNER HAS STOPPED RESPONDING TO COMMUNICATIONS FROM NEIGHBORS AND EVEN FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUED A SERIES OF CITATIONS, UH, LAST FALL, SOME OF WHICH WERE COMPLIED WITH.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, THE HOUSE IS NOT FULLY SECURED.
UH, AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT WHAT WE'RE WATCHING IS DEMOLITION, UH, THROUGH NEGLECT.
AND FURTHER, WE'RE NOW, UH, ALARMED THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS MAY ACTUALLY BE WORKING AGAINST US, UH, BECAUSE THE INSPECTOR, THE SECOND INSPECTOR ASSIGNED TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE HAS INDICATED THAT WE ARE PAST THE POINT OF RECOMMENDING PRESERVATION, UH, FOR WHEN HE BRINGS THIS TO THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION,
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UM, WHICH COULD HAPPEN AS SOON AS MAY.SO, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A CITY DEPARTMENT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT PLANNING TO RECOMMEND DEMOLITION OF AN HISTORIC STRUCTURE AFTER THIS COMMISSION HAS RULED AGAINST DEMOLISHING IT, RATHER THAN ENFORCING THE CITY'S VERY CLEAR RULES, REQUIRING DUTY TO PRESERVE AND REPAIR, AS WELL AS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITING, UH, DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
WE, UH, ARE WRITING YOU AND HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP, UM, FIGURING OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE CITY.
WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, COMMISSIONERS AS AN ITEM FOR, UH, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
UH, THIS IS NOT POSTED FOR DISCUSSION, UH, BECAUSE IT IS, UH, A PUBLIC, UH, PRESENTATION.
HOWEVER, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE AT LEAST SOME QUESTIONS.
IF ANY OF YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER, UM, LET ME JUST SAY IN ADDRESSING YOUR CONCERN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
AND WHAT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND WE DO IS, UH, BECAUSE THIS WAS AN ISSUE, UH, IN A PRIOR PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WERE NOT IN SYNC WITH WHAT THEY WERE ASKING IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
AND IT CAUSED CONFUSION AND IMPACTED SOME PROPERTIES NEGATIVELY.
SO, UH, THIS SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE EARLY ENOUGH THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING.
I'LL RECOMMEND THAT WE POST THIS ON OUR NEXT AGENDA FOR AN UPDATE, UH, IN ADDITION TO POSSIBLY SOME BROADER DISCUSSION WITH THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION ABOUT THEIR PROCESS OF, UH, DEALING WITH THE, UH, DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT ISSUES.
COULD, COULD WE EXTEND AN INVITE TO THE SOMEBODY FROM THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION? ABSOLUTELY.
NO, THAT, UH, WE'LL, I'LL, I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF ON THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL, OR POSSIBLY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
IT HASN'T COME TO BUILDING AND STANDARD YET.
UNTIL MAY AT THE EARLIEST WE, WE YEAH.
BUT THE LANGUAGE THEY USE AND THE WAY THEY APPROACH IT, YEAH.
IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN IN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT ARE NEEDED FOR PRESERVATION.
UM, CALLEN, YOU HAVE SOME, UH, SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THIS? YES, I DID JUST WANNA GIVE A QUICK UPDATE.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UM, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, LEGAL COUNSEL ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN VSC AND THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.
UM, THEY'RE AWARE THAT, UM, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT IS, UH, POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.
UM, SO WE ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF WORKING THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THEM, UM, TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT, UM, HOW THAT WILL WORK, UM, AND IF IT WILL LOOK ANY DIFFERENT THAN OUR NORMAL PROCESS.
UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE AWARE OF AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, AS SOON AS I HEARD ABOUT, I WAS, UM, PRETTY CONCERNED WITH.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT, WE HAVE THE THING IN THE WORKS LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT A POSTED ITEM YET, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A, A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION POSTED FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, AND CAN WE MAYBE GET A MOTION FOR THAT? OH, OKAY.
UM, WE'LL HAVE A, A NOW DO WE NEED A MOTION OR DO WE JUST NEED TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS REQUEST IT? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE, OKAY, I'LL SECOND, SECOND REQUEST.
AGAIN, THANK THE PUBLIC FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS UP TO OUR ATTENTION.
AND, UH, UH, MS. SMOOT, YOUR COMMENTS WERE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER POSTED FOR DISCUSSION? YES.
WE HAVE ROBIN SANDERS, WHO IS ONLINE.
I BELIEVE SHE'S ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT 4 0 9 IN WEST MONROE.
I AM, UH, HERE, UH, REQUESTED TO SPEAK ALSO ON THE 4 0 9 MONROE ISSUE.
UH, IT'S, I JUST WANTED TO SECOND WHAT SAMANTHA SMOOCH HOLDS YOU.
I AM A NEIGHBOR ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
SHE'S ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AND ESPECIALLY THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED.
UH, IT'S, IT'S SAD AS THE RAIN ALLOWED TO GET, THE WINDOWS ARE OPEN, THE RAIN IS ALLOWED TO GET IN.
IT SEEMS LIKE A A, IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG YEAR OF WATCHING THIS, UH, PLACE THAT IS REALLY QUITE BELOVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATES.
SO, BASED ON WHAT I'VE ALREADY HEARD YOU SAY, I WILL JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER AND, UM, ASK YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT AN EXPEDITED SITUATION IT IS AS, AS RAIN CONTINUES TO ENTER
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THE PREMISES.AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YOU BET.
AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.
[Consent Agenda]
THE AGENDA AND I'LL INDICATE THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS.UH, IF THERE ARE ANY THAT ARE POSTED OR RECOMMENDED FOR CONSENT THAT YOU AND THE AUDIENCE OR COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY PULL FOR A DISCUSSION, THEN PLEASE GET MY ATTENTION AND WE'LL NOTE IT ACCORDINGLY.
UH, BUT FIRST ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH IS THE, UH, MINUTES FROM OUR FEBRUARY 7TH MEETING.
THOSE ARE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE, UH, HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATION REQUEST, UH, AT 1206 EAST 13TH STREET AND 1209 BOB HARRISON.
UH, THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP, UH, THAT IS POSTED AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
THE NEXT ITEMS ARE HISTORIC, LANDMARK AND LOCAL DISTRICT APPLICATIONS.
THESE, UH, REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
ITEM NUMBER THREE AT 25 0 6 GIBBONS AVENUE IS, UH, POSTED IN, IN THE ROGERS, WASHINGTON HOLY CROSS LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 4 8 0 4 WALLER STREET, AND THE ROBERTSON STEWART AND MAYOR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UH, THERE'S AN ADDITION AND REMODEL THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 5 42 0 4 AVENUE H IN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THERE'S A PROPOSED REHABILITATE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR DISCUSSION.
ITEM NUMBER 6 4 0 2 WEST 12TH STREET, THE AO WATSON HOUSE.
UH, A PROPOSED EDITION AND REMODEL IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 7 44 11 AVENUE B IN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS IS AN ADDITION AND REMODEL THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 8 32, UH, 300, UH, 320 CONGRESS AVENUE.
THE COUPLE BUILDING, UH, PROPOSAL FOR REPAINTING THE BUILDING AND REPLACING THE AWNING.
STAFF IN THIS CASE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PAINT ONLY FOR THE PREVIOUSLY PAINTED SERVICES SURFACES, AND NOT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NEVER HISTORICALLY BEEN PAINTED.
THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THEN WOULD BE, UH, APPROVED UPON THE CONSENT, AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THE NEXT ITEMS ARE IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, AND THESE ARE PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
AND AN ITEM NUMBER NINE IS 6 0 3 RED RIVER STREET.
THIS IS IN THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER.
HISTORIC DISTRICT REMODEL, REPAINT, AND REPAIR OF BUILDINGS.
THIS WAS POSTPONED FROM OUR FEBRUARY 7TH MEETING, AND THIS IS NOW OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEMS NUMBER 10, 10 10 HARWOOD PLACE AND 11 4 0 2 LOCK LOCKHART DRIVE ARE BOTH ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN ON OUR AGENDA, BUT ARE TIMED OUT AND NO ACTION IS REQUIRED.
UH, CALLEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THAT? UH, YES.
I BELIEVE THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED.
BEG YOUR PARDON? THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
WH WHICH ITEM WAS THIS? 10 10 HARWOOD PLACE AND 4 0 2 LOCKHART DRIVE, HARWOOD PLACE AND LOCKHART DRIVE? THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS WHO WOULD WISHED WHO WISH.
OH, WE HAVE SPEAKERS WHO STILL WISH WOULD, OKAY, SO WE WILL, WE CANNOT TAKE ANY ACTION, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT IT IS A POSTED ITEM, SO WE WILL HEAR A DISCUSSION.
ITEM NUMBER 12 14 0 9 ALTA VISTA AVENUE IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER.
IN ADDITION, IN A REMODEL, THIS IS A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT.
ITEM NUMBER 13 17 0 9 WEATHERSFIELD ROAD, THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER.
HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, THIS IS AN ADDITION REMODEL.
ITEM NUMBER 14, 600 EAST SIXTH STREET AND THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER.
HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, PROPOSAL TO REHABILITATE THE BUILDING, ADD AWNINGS, AND ADD AND REPLACE WINDOWS.
AGAIN, THIS IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 15, 7 0 9 EAST SIXTH STREET, AND THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER.
HISTORIC DISTRICT PROPOSAL IS TO RENOVATE BUILDINGS, ADD AN AWNING, AND REPAINT AND REPOINT BRICK THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 16 7 13 EAST SIXTH STREET IN THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER, HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO REPAIR AND REPAINT BUILDING AND REPLACE STOREFRONT.
ITEM NUMBER 17, 2 0 7 EAST MELTON STREET IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS IS A, UH, PROPOSED EDITION AND REMODEL THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 18 16 0 6 TRAVIS HEIGHTS
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BOULEVARD.UH, THIS IS POSTED WITH NO ACTION REQUIRED.
IT HAS BEEN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
ITEM NUMBER, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION PERMIT, UH, REQUESTS.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 19 AT 28 0 2 PIERCE ROAD.
THIS WAS POSTPONED FROM OUR FEBRUARY 7TH MEETING.
AND THIS IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.
ITEM NUMBER 20 25 0 3 BRIDAL PATH.
UH, THIS IS A DEMOLITION REQUEST AND IS POSTED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 21 46 0 1 CHI CHIRO TRAIL.
UH, THIS IS IN, UH, PARTIAL DEMOLITION REQUEST.
UH, IT IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 22 5 0 3 WALSH STREET.
TOTAL DEMOLITION, UH, THAT IS POSTED FOR CONSENT NUMBER 23 5 0 5 WALL STREET.
UH, THIS IS PART OF A PACKAGE, UH, ALSO A DEMOLITION REQUEST.
ITEM NUMBER 24 5 0 7 WALL STREET, OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
AND FINALLY, THE, UH, 1135 AND 1143 WEST SIXTH STREET.
UH, THERE'S A DEMOLITION REQUEST THAT IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THE NEXT ITEMS, UH, HAVE TO DO WITH OUR A VALOREM, UH, TAX RELIEF PROGRAM.
AND THE ITEM NUMBER 26 IS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE LIST OF, UH, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, DEEMED, UH, PASSING.
UH, SOME ON THE LIST HAVE NOT, NOT PASSED, BUT THIS IS APPROVING OUR, UH, TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM.
AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT, UH, BECAUSE THIS HAPPENS SO OFTEN WHERE WE JUST PASS THIS ON CONSENT.
BUT I DO WANNA REMIND MEMBERS, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, THAT IF YOU PULL UP THE LIST ON OUR BACKUP, THEY'RE WELL OVER 620, 630 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN INSPECTED AND MET OUR STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
NOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE NONPROFITS, SOME OF THEM ARE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, AND SOME OF THEM ARE CHURCHES.
BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE OWNED BY PRIVATE CITIZENS OR PRIVATE ENTITIES.
AND OUR ABATEMENT PROGRAM IS LEVERAGING MANY, MANY TIMES THE DOLLARS THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE ENTITIES ARE SPENDING TO KEEP HISTORIC BUILDINGS UP TO OUR STANDARDS.
UH, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE PROGRAM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BUILD ON, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT WAYS OF MAKING BETTER.
BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND JUST HOW EFFECTIVE THIS HAS BEEN AS A PUBLIC PART, UH, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
UH, WE JUST DON'T GET A CHANCE TO JUMP UP AND DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT ENOUGH.
SO, UH, IT'S ON CONSENT, BUT I DID WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF, UH, EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE JUST TO PROMOTE THE PROGRAM AND, AND JUST, UH, REMIND EVERYONE, FIRST OFF ITS EFFECTIVENESS, BUT THEN ALSO THANK THOSE HUNDREDS OF PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO, UH, GO THAT EXTRA MILE TO MAKE SURE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.
THERE ARE ABOUT A DOZEN SCOFF LAWS, YOU KNOW, AND EVERY YEAR WE KIND OF HAVE A LEVERAGE AND WE CAN GO BACK ONE OR TWO MORE TIMES, AND YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF MORE OF THESE WILL COME UP IN THE NEXT MONTH AS THEY, UH, GET NOTICES AND THEN THEY REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS THEY NEED TO FIX UP.
UH, AS A FORMER OWNER OF A HISTORIC PROPERTY MYSELF, UH, I CAN REMEMBER BEING, UH, RIGHT AROUND THIS TIME, VERY MINDFUL OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GONNA PASS INSPECTION.
SO, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND IT'S GOING TO BE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER 27, WE'LL BE VOTING ON THE, UH, CERTIFICATION FOR, UH, ABATEMENT APPLICATION, A PARTIAL TAX ABATEMENT APPLICATION AT 2 0 1 MAPLE STREET.
THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS MAKING USE OF, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR LESS, UH, KNOWN, BUT, BUT HOPEFULLY ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'LL MAKE MORE USE OF.
AND SO THAT'S ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
UH, THE OTHER ITEMS ARE REPORTS AND DISCUSSION ITEMS FROM COMMITTEES.
AND SO, UH, WITH THAT I WILL, UM, GO AHEAD AND, AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND I'LL REVIEW IT ONE LAST TIME BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE.
MOVE TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED.
UM, THAT IS, UH, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER COOK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER QUARTER.
AND JUST TO REVIEW, THAT WILL BE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE MINUTES.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, UH, AT 25 0 6 GIBBONS AVENUE NUMBER 4 8 0 4 WALLER STREET NUMBER 6 4 0 2 WEST 12TH STREET NUMBER 7 44 11 AVENUE B NUMBER 9 6 0 3, RED RIVER
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NUMBER 13 17 0 9 WEATHERSFIELD ROAD NUMBER 14, 600 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 15, 7 0 9 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 16.NUMBER EIGHT IS ALSO ON THE CONSENTS AGENDA.
DID I MISS EIGHT? I, EXCUSE ME.
NUMBER EIGHT, 320 CONGRESS AVENUE.
UH, I WAS RIGHT UP TO NUMBER 15, 7 0 9 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 16, 7 13 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 17, 2 0 7 EAST MILTON STREET, NUMBER 20 25 0 3 BRIDAL PATH 22 5 0 3 WALL STREET, 23 5 0 5.
WALL STREET, 25, 11 35, AND 1143 WEST SIXTH STREET.
AND ALSO ITEM NUMBER 26, THE, UH, UH, A VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION LIST.
UH, AND THE, UH, ITEM 27, THE PARTIAL TAX ABATEMENT OF AT 2 0 0 1, UH, MAPLE STREET.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE IS THERE SEVEN? SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE HAD YOUR ITEM ON THE CONSENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BASED ON WHAT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
AND SO ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE A DEMOLITION PERMIT, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THAT WILL ALSO REQUIRE A, UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKET FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARDS.
NOW WE'LL TAKE UP THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.
THAT'S 1409 ALTA VISTA AVENUE.
UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.
UH, THAT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
ONCE AGAIN, IT'S UNANIMOUS AND THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
I THINK THAT BRINGS US UP TO OUR FIRST ITEM
[2. C14H-2024-0011 – 1206 E 13th St./1209 Bob Harrison Fashionette Beauty Shop (Part 1 of 2)]
ON THE AGENDA.WE ARE AT, UM, 1206 EAST 13TH STREET.
THIS IS A AND, AND 1209 BOB HARRISON.
UH, THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP.
THIS IS A PROPOSAL, UH, OWNER INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING REQUEST.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS CASE C 14 H 20 24 0 0 1 1.
THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP AND THE ELMER AND ETHEL MCDONALD JACKSON HOME AT 1206 EAST 13TH STREET AND 1209 BOB HARRISON STREET.
STAFF CAN RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM FAMILY RESIDENTS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN TO FAMILY RESIDENCE, HISTORIC LANDMARK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY ALSO RECOMMENDS THIS PROPERTY AS CONTRIBUTING TO POTENTIAL LOCAL AND NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
THE BUILDINGS AT 1206 EAST 13TH AND 1209 BOB HARRISON ARE ASSOCIATED WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUSINESSWOMAN AND COSMETOLOGIST ETH ETHEL MCDONALD JACKSON, WHO RAN A SUCCESSFUL HOME-BASED BUSINESS FROM 1944 TO 1974.
AND WHOSE FAMILY SERVED THEIR COMMUNITY AS CIVIC LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE 20TH CENTURY.
MS. BELINDA DAVIS, DAUGHTER OF ELMER AND ETHEL MCDONALD JACKSON DESCRIBES HER MOTHER'S RISE TO ENTREPRENEURSHIP AFTER SHE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AT 1206 EAST 13TH JACKSON PURCHASED THE FAMILY HOMESTEAD AS A SINGLE WOMAN FROM HER SISTER AND BROTHER-IN-LAW ON JULY 20TH, 1944.
ELMER JACKSON MARRIED ETHEL MCDONALD ON JUNE 26TH, 1946 AND 1206.
EAST 13TH BECAME HIS PRIMARY RESIDENCE AS WELL.
ONCE SHE PURCHASED THE 13TH STREET PROPERTY IN 1944, A SMALL ADDITION TO THE HOME WAS BUILT FOR HER OWN FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP OPEN UNTIL NINE JULY OF 1974.
THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP WAS A VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES PATRONIZED MAMA'S BUSINESS.
SHE WAS A LICENSED COSMETOLOGIST FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND REGULARLY RECEIVED NEW CLIENTS FROM REFERENCES FROM THE CLOSE KNIT ROBERTSON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
ELMER JACKSON, LIKE HIS WIFE, WAS A CIVIC LEADER AND WORKED HARD TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY AND ENRICHED HIS COMMUNITY THROUGH SERVICE.
AUSTIN IS A NOTARY, UH, ARY AND TAXI SERVICES WERE INVALUABLE TO AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS IN JACKSON'S.
MANY OCCUPATIONS DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTED TO HIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S RESILIENCE.
THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP IS A SIGNIFICANT REMINDER OF THAT RESILIENCE, CREATIVITY, AND THE BUSINESS ACUMEN OF AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS IN SEGREGATION ERA AUSTIN.
MS. DAVIS DESCRIBES THE IMPACT THAT HER MOTHER'S BUSINESS HAD ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
AS SUCH, OUR RESIDENCE WAS SIGNIFICANT AND UNIQUE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ONLY OUR HOME, BUT WAS ALSO MAMA'S PLACE OF BUSINESS.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE ROBERTSON HILL FREEDOM COLONY
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WAS ONCE FILLED WITH MANY AFRICAN AMERICAN PIONEERS AND BUSINESSES.ETHEL AND ELMER JACKSON WERE INFLUENTIAL MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC EAST AUSTIN COMMUNITY.
THEY CONSISTENTLY PUT THE NEEDS OF OTHERS OVER THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS.
THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP WAS A HUB OF ACTIVITY FOR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, A PLACE OF REFUGE, REFUGE COUNSELING TO RECEIVE A WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT, EVEN A PLACE TO RECEIVE PRAYER.
IN ADDITION TO THE SHOP SERVING AS A NEXUS FOR THOSE IN NEED OF COSMETOLOGY SERVICES AND COMMISERATION, THE JACKSONS ALSO OPENED THEIR HOME TO THOSE IN NEED, INCLUDING THOSE WHO COULD NOT FIND ACCOMMODATIONS ELSE ELSEWHERE.
BECAUSE OF AUSTIN SEGREGATION LAWS, THEY BOTH FED THE HUNGRY, HOUSED THE HOMELESS, AND CARED FOR THE SICK RIGHTS DAVIS OF HER PARENTS.
THEY STRIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEEDS OF OTHERS WERE MET, THEY SACRIFICED TO, TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO NEEDED EDUCATION, HOUSING, FOOD, AND LOVE.
OUR NEIGHBOR'S NEW COMPASSIONATE ASSISTANCE WAS AVAILABLE AT OUR HOME, 1206 EAST 13TH STREET, ACCORDING TO THE EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.
UH, THE BUILDING AT 1206 EAST 13TH IS A CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW THAT RETAINS THE BUILT ELEMENTS THAT DEFINE IT NOT ONLY AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, BUT ALSO AS A HOME-BASED BUSINESS WITH DOUBLE ENTRANCES.
THE SURVEY DEFINES THE REAR BUILDING AT 1209.
BOB HARRISON STREET, HISTORICALLY USED AS EITHER A RENTAL PROPERTY OR JACKSON FAMILY RESIDENCE AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A CENTER PASSAGE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE BUILDING.
THOSE STRUCTURES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING RESTORED AFTER FIRE DAMAGE WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS ISSUED BY THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY, 2024.
UH, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? UM, THERE ISN'T A PRESENTATION, BUT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS ARE IN ATTENDANCE AND THEY MIGHT BE ON THE PHONE AS WELL.
WELL, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND LET US HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS COME ON DOWN.
THEY DO NOT SEEM TO BE ONLINE.
I JUST SENT THEM AN EMAIL TO SEE IF THEY WANNA CALL IN TONIGHT, BUT, UH, THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY HERE.
SO IS, AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE APPLICANT? DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT.
THAT IS UNUSUAL SINCE THIS WAS AN OWNER INITIATED REQUEST.
UM, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN INDICATION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH US, BECAUSE IF SO, WE COULD CERTAINLY, UM, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS, AND THEN IF YOU COULD REACH THEM IN THE NEXT LITTLE WHILE, WE COULD PICK IT BACK UP AGAIN.
YEAH, MAYBE WE COULD JUST TABLE THIS FOR LATER AND SEE IF THEY WANNA CALL BACK IN.
I JUST SENT THEM AN EMAIL, UH, SO IF HE DOES NOT RESPOND TO ME WE'LL OKAY.
UH, IF IT COMES UP, UH, I'LL ENTER NAME, A MOTION TO TABLE THIS, UH, TO BE, UH, PICKED UP AT LATER IN THE MEETING IF POSSIBLE.
UH, I MOVE TO, UH, TABLE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO AND PENDING, UH, REACHING THE OWNERS.
WE WILL TAKE IT AFTER ITEM NUMBER 21 ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE MIGHT MOVE THAT AROUND IF WE, WE GET BACK FROM THEM.
LET'S, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY TABLE IT FOR LATER IN THE AGENDA BECAUSE OKAY.
WE MAY HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY MIGHT BE.
I I MOVE TO TABLE IT FOR NOW, PERIOD.
MOVE THE TABLE FOR LATER IN, LATER IN THE AGENDA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, IT'S BEEN MOTION TO TABLE THIS LATER IN THE AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.
NO, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS A CONSENT ITEM NUMBER
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FIVE.THE DISCUSSION ITEM IS 42 0 4 AVENUE H, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AND THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR REHABILITATION OF A BUILDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UM, IS A PROPOSAL IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 42 0 4 AVENUE H.
AND THIS PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION, REPLACE THE FOUNDATION AND ROOF, RESTORE FRONT WINDOWS, CONSTRUCT A NEW GARAGE, AND TO CONSTRUCT A POOL.
THE EXISTING BUILDING IS A ONE STORY CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW WITH A COVERED ENTRYWAY, HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, ONE OVER ONE WOOD WINDOWS AND TRADITIONAL CRAFTSMAN DETAILING.
THE HYDE PARK DESIGN STANDARDS ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS PROJECT MEETS SOME OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS, BUT NOT ALL.
THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING, TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE MARCH MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, TO DISCUSS DESIGN FEEDBACK.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
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HELLO, MY NAME IS, UH, STEVE CROCKS.I AM THE, UH, OWNER AND THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
UM, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION TO THIS AND TO YOUR DEDICATION TO HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
UM, ANYWAYS, I'M REALLY JUST HERE TO, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A POSTPONEMENT TO, UH, UH, MOVE IT TO THE NEXT, UM, THE MEETING TO FOR I GUESS A CRITIQUE.
AND SO I'M BASICALLY HERE, JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSE I CAN WHILE I'M HERE.
UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT, UH, MR. K CRACKLES IS, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO, UH, THIS POSTPONEMENT THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING YOU SPEND TIME WITH OUR, UH, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE? AND IT'S IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE A MUCH MORE INFORMAL WAY OF DISCUSSING DESIGN ISSUES AND HISTORIC ISSUES WITH OWNERS AND BE ABLE TO BRING SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OR ITEMS BASED ON OUR CRITERIA, UH, THAT YOU THEN WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSIDER AND, AND, UH, AGAIN, HAVE MORE OF A BACK AND FORTH, UH, INFORMAL TYPE OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROJECT? WELL, YES, SIR.
I, I MUCH PREFER YOU GUYS TO SAY YES NOW, BUT, UH, SINCE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN, I'D BE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND, UM, AND GO OVER ANY OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT YOU RECOMMEND.
UH, I CAN JUST SAY PART OF, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERPRET FOR STAFF, BUT, UH, MY FIRST IMPRESSION LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT I, I SEE THAT YOU HAD A NUMBER OF WAYS OF BEING SENSITIVE TO HISTORIC ELEMENTS, HOW THOSE ARE PUT INTO A VOLUME OF THIS KIND IN ADJACENT TO A BUILDING OF THIS KIND.
UH, I THINK PROBABLY WARRANTS SOME MORE CONSIDERATION AND, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER CLARIFICATIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU CAN BRING, UH, IN DISCUSSING THIS TO WITH THE COMMITTEE.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OR IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, I'LL SAY SOMEWHAT ANECDOTALLY AND, AND MAKING NO PROMISES, BUT, UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, OF INSTANCES IN PREVIOUS MONTHS WHERE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AND THEN WHEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE AT THAT MEETING, THE OWNER TAKES THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, THEY OFTEN SHOW UP ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, 'CAUSE STAFF IS CONFIDENT THAT THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN INCORPORATED.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO SAY OUT LOUD, UM, WHEN THE PROCESS GOES REALLY WELL, THAT'S HOW WE SEE IT WORK.
JUST FYI, I JUST WANNA WORK WITH EVERYBODY.
UH, THE LOCAL, UH, DRC THERE IN HYDE PARK.
I MET WITH THEM ON I THINK THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY APPROVED THE PLANS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE APPROPRIATE.
SO, UM, I ALSO, UM, CONSULTED WITH A, UH, HISTORIC ARCHITECT IN FORT WORTH WHO, UH, YOU KNOW, SPECIALIZES IN HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND PRESERVATION.
AND, UH, HE MADE SURE THAT ALL OUR PLANS WERE, UH, MAKING OUR HOUSE LOOK LIKE 1923 APPROPRIATE.
SO, UM, YEAH, ANYTHING I CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR SURE.
AND, AND IF THE LOCAL REVIEW, UH, COMMITTEE IN HYDE PARK HAS ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEND US OR ANY CORRESPONDENCE THAT YOU KNOW OF? UH, I THINK IF THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT, LIKE ON THE, UH, UH, GENDER ON THE WEBSITE.
I THINK THEY'VE SHOWN THERE A LETTER OF APPROVAL.
THAT'S WHAT MY WIFE TOLD ME, SO I COULD BE WRONG.
UH, AND I MAY, I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER ITEM HERE THAT MAY HAVE GAVE ME YEAH, WE, WE SEE SOME INDIVIDUAL, UH, COMMENTS, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKEN BY THE, BY THE LOCAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT'S ALSO HELPFUL.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE THE VOTE OF THIS COMMISSION.
BUT, UM, THE, THERE'S ENOUGH QUESTIONS THAT I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WE TAKE SOME TIME TO WORK WITH YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL, UH, INVITE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? SEEING NONE.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE SPEAKING OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, IF NOT, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOVE, COOK AND COMMISSIONER MCM MORDER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION RECOGNIZING THAT IF IT IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE, WE'LL ALSO NEED
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TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.THE CITY CLERK IS HELPING US OUT THAT WAY.
COMMISSIONERS, I'LL MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONE, UH, THE CASE TO OUR APRIL MEETING AND INVITE THE ATTENDEE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? NONE.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.
OKAY, SO, UM, THIS ONE PASSES THE MOTION TO POSTPONE TO THE APRIL MEETING, UH, HAS PASSED.
AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE APPLICANT VISIT WITH THE, UH, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH THE STAFF ON THAT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 10.
WELL, I GUESS LET'S START WITH NUMBER 10.
UH, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
THESE ITEMS, UH, THOUGH THEY ARE POSTED, THEY, UH, IT IS NOTED THAT THESE ARE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE TIMED OUT.
SO, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 10.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A STAFF REPORT FOR THESE CHAIR, UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THEM.
SO I'LL JUST, UM, OPEN UP THE FLOOR.
AND THEN, AND I DO HAVE SOME UPDATES ON THEM AFTERWARDS, BUT I'D LIKE TO LET THEM SPEAK FIRST.
SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO BACKUP AND THE WAY IT HAS BEEN POSTED, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN TAKE ANY ACTION IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN TAKE YOUR TESTIMONY.
SO, UH, IF THERE'S A SPEAKER HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AT THE MICROPHONE.
ARE THESE RELATED? SHOULD WE TAKE A MOTION TO TAKE 'EM TOGETHER? ARE THEY BOTH SIMILAR? UH, THE SAME CASES? ARE THEY DIFFERENT? WELL, NEVERMIND, WE'LL LEAVE USE THAT.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 10 AT 10 10 HARWOOD PLACE.
UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE HAD SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER.
I BELIEVE I, I SENT HER THE CALL ON INFORMATION, BUT SHE HAS NOT APPEARED ONLINE YET.
AND FOR THE NEXT ONE AS WELL, FOUR TWO LOCKHART DRIVE, CLIFTON LAD WAS ALSO HERE, BUT HE LEFT.
UM, SO I'VE INVITED HIM TO COME BACK IF HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT AT THE MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE TWO CASES.
CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED, WE ARE TAKING THESE IN ORDER.
I BELIEVE THAT WE, IF IF WE, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO TABLE THIS ALSO TO TAKE THEM OUT OF ORDER? OKAY.
SO WE HEAR THAT THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER TWO IS NOW ONLINE AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, IF, UH, YOU'LL ALLOW ME, WE TABLE THIS TO LATER IN THE MOTION, SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE
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THAT WE PICK UP ITEM NUMBER TWO NOW, UH, AND PUT THAT, UH, ON OUR AGENDA.ALRIGHT, STAFF, UH, WE NOW ARE DISCUSSING ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THIS IS 1204 EAST 13TH STREET AND 1209 BOB HARRISON.
WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF AND WE'VE JUST OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO, TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM? YES.
BARRY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PRESSING STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
HELLO, MY NAME IS BARRY MCBRIDE.
AND I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THESE PROPERTIES, BUT THE OWNERS MAY BE ON THE LINE AS WELL, SAM DAVIS, AS WELL AS BELINDA DAVIS.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE ON THE LINE AS WELL, BUT I AM HERE AS PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS, UH, UH, HISTORIC, UH, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
UH, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
WELL, SIR, YOU ARE THE FIRST SPEAKER AND YOU'RE THE ONE WE HAVE.
SO WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND INDICATE, UH, I'M SORRY, YOUR NAME AGAIN, SIR? BARRY MCBRIDE.
MR. MCBRIDE, IF YOU WOULD, UH, JUST INDICATE, UH, THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION AND PERHAPS FILL IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, UH, STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE AN INTEREST IN.
UH, THE PHOTOGRAPHS WE HAVE SHOW A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT NOT A COMPLETED PROJECT.
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YES.THIS PROJECT IS, UH, IN PROGRESS, UH, AND WE WILL BE COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
AND THE PROJECT IS HISTORIC AND IT DOES IN ENTAIL TWO PROPERTIES, 1206 EAST 13TH STREET, AS WELL AS 1209 BOB HARRISON STREET.
AND THEY ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER, FACING DIFFERENT STREETS, BUT ON ONE LARGE LOT.
UH, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ONE ADDRESS, UH, LEGALLY.
AND THAT ADDRESS IS 1206 EAST 13TH STREET.
BUT THERE ARE TWO HOUSES ON THAT LARGE LOT, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE 1939 WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT.
THESE PROPERTIES ARE, THESE PROPERTIES ARE BEING, UH, RENOVATED, UH, AND BROUGHT BACK TO THEIR HISTORICAL, UH, STATUS AND THEIR, WELL, KEEPING IN MIND THEIR HISTORICAL STATUS AND THEIR HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE OF THESE PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE FASHION NET BEAUTY SHOP THAT WAS PART OF 1206 EAST EAST 13TH STREET, WHICH IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION IS BEING ASKED FOR.
AND IT OPERATED FROM 1946 TO 1973 AT THAT SAME LOCATION.
UH, AND THE MAIN, THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY IS BEING MAINTAINED.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING VERY MUCH ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTIES OTHER THAN WE ARE ADDING A BATHROOM TO 1209 EAST, EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME, 1209 BOB EON STREET, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO HAVE IT, AND IT NEVER DID HAVE ONE, UH, THROUGHOUT ITS PRIOR EXISTENCE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THE PROPERTIES AND THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE ARE REMAINING THE SAME.
UH, AND WE ARE PREPARING THE PROPERTY TO A DEGREE TO WHERE, UH, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR APPROXIMATELY 75 YEARS.
THE FULL EXTENT OF THE REHABILITATION, THE REHABILITATION WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WILL MAKE IT TO WHERE THESE PROPERTIES WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS.
AND THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE DAVIS FAMILY, UH, WILL OWN THESE PROPERTIES UNTIL THAT TIME AND EVEN FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE.
THERE ARE NO ATTEMPT, THERE ARE NO REASONS WHY, AND THERE ARE NO DESIRES ON THE PART OF ANYONE CONNECTED WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTIES TO EVER SELL THESE PROPERTIES.
THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED AND OWNED WITHIN THE, THE, UH, OWNERSHIP ENTITY THAT OWNS THESE PROPERTIES, UH, UH, BY THE FAMILY FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
UH, LET ME ASK YOU, MR. MCBRIDE, UH, YES.
DO THE, WHAT ARE THE, THE INTENDED USES WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT? THE INTENDED USES FOR BOTH PROPERTIES IS, ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED, THEY WILL BE LEASED, PREFERABLY ON LONG-TERM LEASES TO, UH, THE INDIVIDUALS AND PROFESSIONALS WHO TYPICALLY LIKE TO LIVE IN THAT AREA, WHICH, UH, USUALLY ARE FOLKS CONNECTED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, OR THEY IN SOME WAY ARE CONNECTED WITH, UH, THE MEDICAL FACILITIES WHICH ARE NEARBY.
BECAUSE THESE PROPERTIES ARE NEAR, UH, UH, I 35 OR SOMEONE WITHIN THE SENATE OR THE STATE, UH, UH, JUDICIARY, JUDICIARY, OR GOVERNMENTAL OFFICES IN THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN AREA, WE SEE NO REASON AT ALL WHY THESE PROPERTIES WON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE AT ALL GETTING LEASED UP.
IN FACT, WE'RE BEGINNING THAT PROCESS NOW FROM THE STANDPOINT OF GETTING THE WORD OUT IN TERMS OF THE AVAIL, THE POTENTIAL AVAILABILITY OF THESE PROPERTIES.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH PRIVATELY SEVERAL REAL ESTATE COMPANIES TO GIVE US SOME IDEA OF WHAT THESE PROPERTIES WILL LEASE FOR.
THAT PROCESS IS JUST BEGINNING NOW.
AND I ANTICIPATE, UH, GETTING TO THE MARKET SOMETIME BETWEEN JUNE AND JULY OF THIS YEAR.
THAT'S JUST HOW FAR NEAR COMPLETION WE ARE.
AND KEEP IN MIND, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, BUT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY AND THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO GO FAR AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO HELP RESERVE THESE PROPERTIES, WE WANTED TO TAKE THE NECESSARY TIME TO DO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ALL THAT IS REQUIRED AND NECESSARY, UH, TO MAKE THESE PROPERTIES NOT ONLY, UH, CONTINUE TO BE LIVABLE FOR THAT NUMBER OF YEARS INTO THE FUTURE, BUT THAT, UH, THEY APPEAR TO BE, AND THEY LOOK, UH, FROM THE OUTSIDE AS PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN WELL MAINTAINED AND THAT EVERY OUNCE OF OF WORK THAT WE COULD THINK OF WERE PUT INTO THESE PROPERTIES, TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF LONG OF LONGEVITY AND TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE HISTORICALLY OF THESE PROPERTIES.
AND WE, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND, UH, STAFF HAS REMINDED US, COMMISSIONERS THAT WE REVIEWED THESE PLANS PRIOR, UH, AND ISSUED, UH, THEM ALREADY, UH, UNDER THE, UM, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, UH, DUE TO THEIR PROXIMITY.
SO, BUT THEY WERE NOT AT THE TIME OF DESIGNATED LANDMARK.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST IS.
AND, UH, AGAIN, YOU'RE CLOSE, BUT NOT COMPLETELY FINISHED, BUT APPRECIATE THE STATUS UPDATE.
ANY OTHER QUESTION OF THIS, UH, SPEAKER?
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OKAY, IF NOT, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL LISTEN TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.IF, UH, THE DAVIS, UH, SAM OR BELINDA, ARE THEY ONLINE? THEY'RE NOT, NO.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, UH, AVAILABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE.
OH, WAS THERE ANYBODY TO SPEAK AGAINST? IT'S OBVIOUSLY NO ONE'S HERE IN FAVOR.
IS THERE ANYBODY AGAINST, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE COMMISSIONER COOK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MC MORTER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UH, SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
THIS IS A, UH, APPLICANT INITIATED, UH, HISTORIC ZONING REQUEST.
I MOVED TO POSTPONE TO OUR APRIL MEETING.
UH, THERE'S A MOVE TO POSTPONE TO THE APRIL MEETING.
IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND.
UH, COMMISSIONER EVANS AND, UH, MR. FEATHERSTON, GO AHEAD.
AND, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO EXPLAIN YOUR RECOMMENDATION, YOUR, YOUR MOTION.
YEAH, I, I MEAN, IS, UM, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, UH, WE'VE, THIS IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF, UH, ENGAGEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP THAT I'VE SEEN WHEN IT COMES TO A HISTOR HISTORIC ZONING CASE.
AND, UM, NOT THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ISN'T GREAT, BUT AGAIN, IT, IT IS ON THE LIGHTER SIDE OF WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE.
I'D REALLY APPRECIATE THE, SOME REPRESENTATION FROM THE OWNERSHIP THEMSELVES TO, TO TELL US MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MY MOTION.
THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THIS CASE.
COMMISSIONER EVANS, I AGREE, IT APPEARS THE FAMILY HAS VERY DEEP ROOTS IN AUSTIN AND IS VERY COMMITTED TO THIS PROPERTY, BUT, UH, I WOULD JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE HEARING FROM THEM, UH, ABOUT THEIR CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY AND THEIR POTENTIAL FUTURE USES.
AND I, I COULD, I COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE LOGIC, I THINK ALSO, UH, THE CONCERN I HAD WAS THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED AND SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION, UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET BY THE SITE, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THIS.
UH, JUST, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROGRESS OF THE WORK, BUT ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE CAN AT LEAST GET AN UPDATE ON, UH, OR REQUEST AN UPDATE ON IF, UH, WE SEE THIS AGAIN IN A MONTH.
UM, ANY, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE REQUEST? I'LL JUST NOTE THERE WAS ALSO, UH, IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, AN INVITATION THAT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE WERE, WERE THERE EITHER IN PERSON OR DIAL IN FOR INPUT.
THERE WAS A COMMENT IN STAFF RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE VINYL WINDOWS.
I THINK, UH, WITH THE DEGREE OF RECONSTRUCTION FROM THE CONDITION OF THESE PROPERTIES IS ADMIRABLE IN A SENSE OF RESTORATION AND, UH, RESTORATION WITHOUT PLOWING 'EM DOWN AND BUILDING SOMETHING NEW.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, PHOTOS OF CONGRESS AVENUE IN THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES, AND WHAT WE HAVE THERE NOW IS LANDMARKS.
YOU'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS A LOT OF RESTORATE, A LOT OF RESTORED LANDMARKS OUT THERE NOW.
SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A HIT ON THIS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE, TO BE ACCURATE WITH THE RESTORATION.
I DO HAVE THE ONE ISSUE WITH THE TRIPARTITE WINDOW, UH, ON THE BOB HARRISON SIDE.
UH, OTHERWISE IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE SIDING WAS RETAINED.
THE, THE ROOF WAS A RIGHT, UM, SCALE.
UM, MASSING, ROOF LINE PROPORTIONS, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME.
THE RESTORATION OF THE, THE PORCH LIT ON THE BOB HARRISON SIDE IS GOOD.
IF I JUST HAVE HAD ONE COMMENT, UH, WOULD BE ABOUT THAT, THAT WINDOW AND WHETHER IT WA IT WAS, UH, HISTORICALLY ACCURATE, OTHERWISE, EVERYTHING I SEE LOOKS GOOD.
BUT, UH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OWNERSHIP IF, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY MAY NOT BE WILLING TO SPEAK BECAUSE THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN PUBLIC.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FORCE SOMEONE TO, BUT IT, IT REALLY WOULD BE NICE TO, UH, TO SEE THE ENGAGEMENT AT OUR LEVEL AS WELL AS HIGHER LEVELS OF REVIEW.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER TWO TO POSTPONE TO OUR APRIL MEETING AND REQUEST A, UH, I GUESS INFORMALLY WE COULD ADD A REQUEST TO VISIT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS A 7 0 7 0 VOTE.
SO, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, SHOULD BE AWARE, UH, THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS NEXT MONTH.
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ALRIGHT.IN THE MEANTIME, HAS, UH, THE STATUS OF THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 10 AND ITEM 11, HAS THAT BEEN RESOLVED? COMMISSIONER, UH, LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER LA ROCHE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
COMMISSIONER LA LAROCHE, PLEASE.
I NEED TO GET MYSELF A FLARE GUN
UH, MY SUGGESTION RECOMMENDATION CHAIR WOULD BE THAT WE IN, IN, IN INFORM THE, THE TWO SPEAKERS THAT THEY'RE INVITED TO, UH, MAKE THEIR REMARKS AT THE NEXT MEETING UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE MOVE FORWARD.
YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 AND 11? CORRECT.
UH, THAT, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE AT THIS POINT.
UH, WE ARE, WE HAD THEM POSTED.
UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A DISCUSSION.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE ABILITY TO DO THAT NEXT MONTH UNLESS THEY'RE, UNLESS THEY'RE THERE CURRENTLY.
COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, THEY'RE HERE ON RIGHT NOW, SO, UH, WE ARE BACK TO THE REGULAR ORDER, SO WE LET 'EM SPEAK.
YEAH, WE'RE BACK TO THE REGULAR ORDER.
AND SO WE CAN CALL, UH, ITEM NUMBER
[10. HR-2023-122500 – 1010 Harwood Pl. - No action required. Application timed out.]
10, OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING.AND SUSAN, IF YOU WANNA PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
I WAS HAVING TROUBLE UNMUTING MYSELF, BUT I'M HERE NOW.
MY NAME IS SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER AND I'M A RESIDENT OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND A MEMBER OF THE SRCC HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT CODE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE TIMED OUT UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR.
STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THE DEMOLITION APPLICATION WAS FILED IN APRIL OF 2023, AND THEREFORE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION 75 DAY TIMELINE GOVERNS INSTEAD OF THE 180 DAYS.
HOWEVER, AND I MAY NOT BE SAYING THAT RIGHT, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT OUR REVIEW OF THE SPRING OF 2023 AGENDAS INDICATE THE PROPERTY WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA IN APRIL, MAY, OR JUNE OF 2023.
AND IT IS REQUIRED TO BE POSTED WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE APPLICATION AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
IF IT WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA, THEN IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYONE OF THE INTEREST TO REVIEW AND COMMENT.
THE REASON WE HAVE THIS CONCERN, AS YOU KNOW, IS THERE'S VERY LITTLE, VERY FEW TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, AND ONE OF THE ONLY TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US IS THE POSTPONEMENT OF THE 180 DAYS, ESPECIALLY FOR A CONTRIBUTING HOME.
AND SO WE DO REQUEST THAT THE PROPER TIMELINE BE HONORED AND THIS TIMEOUT BE RECONSIDERED AND REOPENED TO THE PUBLIC.
OUR CALCULATION SHOW, IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE UNTIL AT LEAST MAY OF 2024.
UM, AND NOW, SINCE IT WAS NOT HEARD FOR THIS TIME UNTIL JUNE OF 2024.
UM, PERHAPS STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS? SURE.
UM, WE HAVE CLEARED THIS ONE WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
UM, THEY HAVE, UM, EXPLAINED THAT THE DEMO PERMIT AND THE HISTORICAL REVIEW APPLICATION ARE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS, UH, WITH TWO SEPARATE TIMELINES.
THEREFORE, UM, THE, UM, DEMOLITION APPLICATION, UM, THE EARLIER OF THE TWO, UM, THE TIMELINE BEGAN, UM, BACK IN APRIL.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO AMBER'S RECORDS ON THIS, UM, ANYMORE, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE APPLICANT POSTPONED, UM, IN ORDER TO SYNC UP THE DEMOLITION AND HR APPLICATIONS, THE HISTORIC REVIEW APPLICATION, UM, AT ONE MEETING.
UM, WHICH I BELIEVE ACCOUNTS FOR THE MISSING TIME.
UM, BUT WE'VE CLEARED THIS ONE WITH LAW.
UM, THE OTHER ONE I'M STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER FOR.
UM, SO IF I DON'T HAVE ONE BY THE END OF THIS MEETING, THEN I WILL CIRCLE BACK WITH Y'ALL, UM, EITHER ONLINE OR VIA, UM, OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK IS IF THERE'S ALREADY SOME, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A VERY BIG SENSITIVITY TO THIS.
THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, THIS IS VERY INDICATIVE OF WHAT MAY BE SOME LEVEL OF CONFUSION BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC'S PART, POSSIBLY THE OWNER'S PART, AND MAYBE EVEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE INTO
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AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S A LEVEL OF COORDINATION, MAYBE EVEN JUST THE TERMINOLOGY WE'RE USING CAN BE CONSISTENT AND COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY WHAT'S EXPECTED AT EACH OF THESE BENCHMARKS.AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, UM, WITH THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
THIS IS A VERY CONFUSING SECTION OF CODE WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT TIMELINES FOR A LOT OF VERY SIMILAR PROPERTY TYPES, UM, AND PROJECT TYPES.
AND, UM, IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
SO, UM, I AM ABSOLUTELY, UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS AS OPERATIONS COMMITTEE TO HOPEFULLY GET THIS, UH, SECTION CLARIFIED.
UM, AND, AND JUST BECAUSE AFTER WE'RE ALL SAID AND DONE, WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WE AT LEAST KNOW WHAT EXISTS NOW, UH, WITH THE WORK WE'RE DOING WITH THE PRESERVATION PLAN, UH, AND OTHER EQUITY BASED ELEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THAT.
UH, CERTAINLY SETTING CLEAR EXPECTATIONS AND THEN ALSO GETTING A MORE EFFECTIVE USE OF THEM, UH, WOULD BE IN ORDER AND MAY VERY WELL BECOME PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MAKE AS WE UPDATE OUR PLAN.
UM, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THE PRESERVATION PLAN, UM, I DEFINITELY WANNA WORK WITH THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE TOO.
UH, MS. ARMSTRONG FISHER, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.
UH, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE HEARD WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THIS, UM, WITH STAFF, UH, AS A MORE OF A SYSTEMIC QUESTION, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT WE CAN DO, UM, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
AND NOW, BUT YOU ALSO SIGNED, YOU ALSO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON, UH, 4 0 2 LOCKHART DRIVE, THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 11.
UM, WE AREN'T REQUIRED TO TAKE ANY ACTION, SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR ITEM NUMBER 10 ANYWAY, SINCE THERE WAS NO ACTION REQUIRED.
IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
I WILL MENTION THAT MY COLLEAGUE, CLIFF LADD IS SPEAKING ON THAT.
UM, I AM NOT, BUT, UM, IF, IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY OF REVISITING WITH LEGAL, BECAUSE IF THE CODE WAS NOT PROPERLY FOLLOWED, UM, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD MAKE THAT REQUEST.
UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, UM, IF THAT NEEDS MORE RESOLUTION, YOUR CORRESPONDENCE WITH STAFF AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY WOULD BE CERTAINLY BE AN ORDER AND WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT CAME OUT.
UH, AND SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 10? OKAY.
HEARING NONE IS, THERE'S NO NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
[11. HR-2024-001087 – 402 Lockhart Dr. No action required. Application timed out.]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.WE HAVE A REQUEST TO HAVE A SPEAKER.
UH, AND SO THEREFORE WE CAN OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 4 0 2 LOCKHART DRIVE.
AND IS THAT SPEAKER AVAILABLE? WE HAVE CLIFF LAD ONLINE.
IF YOU WANNA PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
MY NAME'S CLIFTON LADD, AND, UH, I'M A RESIDENT IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND MEMBER OF THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.
I HAVE, UH, SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THIS APPLICATION AND, UM, STATED, UM, OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPLICATION, BUT NOW WITH IT BEING POSTED AS IT HAS, I REALLY HAVE TO SAY, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK UP AND SAY THAT I THINK THAT'S AN ERROR.
AS PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING THIS HAS NOT BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR THE REQUISITE 180 DAYS.
THE FIRST TIME IT WAS POSTED ON THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION AGENDA WAS IN DECEMBER.
UM, THAT BEING THE CASE, I I THINK THAT IT, IT'S AN, AN ERROR TO CONTINUE AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS IT IS NOW.
SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY.
I DID HEAR SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO REPEAT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO RAISE MY OBJECTION, UH, TO IT AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND WE WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU FOR ALERTING US.
IF THERE IS CONFUSION OR MISUNDERSTANDING, OR SOMEBODY'S GOT IT WRONG, UH, CERTAINLY IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
RECOGNIZE, HOWEVER, THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION, NOR WERE WE POSTED.
THIS IS STRICTLY TELLING US THAT AN APPLICATION HAS TIMED OUT.
AND THE MECHANISM AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, IS THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEN INDEPENDENT OF ANYTHING WE'VE DONE, STAFF THEN GOES THROUGH A PROCESS OF RELEASING THESE REQUESTS.
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IT REALLY IS AN ACTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF, UH, THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT OTHER THAN REQUESTING, UH, THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT THE PROCEDURES HAVE BEEN PROPERLY FOLLOWED.AND IF WE HEAR, UH, ADDITIONAL ITEMS, UH, ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE END OF OUR MEETING ON ITEM NUMBER 11, WE CERTAINLY WILL ENTERTAIN A REPORT.
BUT, UH, BECAUSE IT IS CLEARLY AN ITEM OF CONCERN, UH, AND WE WANT TO GET IT AS RIGHT AS WE CAN NOW, AND WE WANNA BE ABLE TO FIX IT IF THERE'S A FIX TO BE DONE.
THAT'S WHY I, I, I DO BELIEVE THIS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT ITEM FOR THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
WE THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING THAT AS WELL.
CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK AN OPEN-ENDED QUESTION? ABSOLUTELY.
I'LL TRY NOT TO THINK OUT LOUD TOO MUCH.
BUT, UH, IS THIS TOTAL COINCIDENCE THAT THESE TWO ARE COMING TO US? IS THERE ANY CONNECTING THREAD BETWEEN THESE TWO OTHER THAN THEY'RE BOTH IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.
THEY, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT APPLICANTS TO.
UH, BUT TRAVIS HEIGHTS HAS HAD, UH, A SERIOUS NUMBER OF ISSUES, AS YOU KNOW, WITH PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO MORE WITH BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
AND SO IT'S A, AN ONGOING CHALLENGE CHAIR, YOU'RE GONNA GET ME THINKING OUT LOUD.
THERE WAS A, THERE WAS SOME OTHER, SOME SORT OF LOOPHOLE HERE THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE, THAT SOME ENTERPRISING INDIVIDUAL HAS DISCOVERED.
IF THEY APPLY FOR TWO THINGS AT ONCE AND THEN START DOING SOME DELAYS, THAT IT GETS AWKWARD AND, BUT, UH, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST TOTAL COINCIDENCE.
SO THANK, THANK YOU TO THE BOTH OF THE PEOPLE WHO, UM, PULLED THIS OFF OF, UH, AND HAD US TALK ABOUT IT.
OKAY, SO THOSE ARE BOTH DISCUSSION ITEMS WITH NO ACTION.
AND SO I WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POSTED
[19. PR-2023-158329 – 2802 Pearce Rd.]
ITEM FOR ACTION.UH, THAT IS A REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION ITEM NUMBER 19.
AND THAT IS 28 0 2 PIERCE ROAD.
UH, THIS WAS, UH, PRESENTED TO US AT OUR FEBRUARY 7TH MEETING AND POSTPONED, UH, TILL THIS MEETING.
THANK YOU, CHAIR ITEM 19 AT 28 0 2.
PIERCE LANE IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A HOUSE CONSTRUCTED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1910 AND 1930, UM, AND AN OUTBUILDING CONSTRUCTED IN 1972.
UH, THIS IS A ONE STORY RUSTIC CABIN WITH A CRAFTSMAN STYLE SHINGLE CLOUD, FRONT GABLE DEEP FRONT PORCH, SUPPORTED BY SIMPLE POSTS ATOP MASSIVE TAPERED STONE PIERS SIX OVER SIX WOOD WINDOWS, A MASSIVE RUBBLE FIREPLACE, AND RUSTIC STONE CLADDING THROUGHOUT THE REAR PORTION OF THE BUILDING APPEARS TO BE A LATER EDITION, AS IS THE SECONDARY STRUCTURE ON THE LOT.
MRS. AMELIA LEE, WIFE OF THE LATE HORSE R LEE, OWNED THE PROPERTY DURING THE FORTIES.
THE LEES LIVED IN GONZALEZ, AND DURING THE FIFTIES THEY LIVED ACROSS THE RIVERBEND ON MOUNT BARKER DRIVE.
IT IS LIKELY THAT THEY USED THE PROPERTY AS A VACATION HOME OR FISHING CABIN, AND THAT IT REPRESENTS ONE OF THE EARLIEST RECREATIONAL USES OF THIS AREA.
AMELIA FREEMAN LEE WAS A FORT WORTH NATIVE AND A BUSINESS WOMAN.
AFTER GRADUATING BUSINESS SCHOOL, SHE MOVED TO AUSTIN AND WORKED FOR THE IRS FOR 10 YEARS.
HE WAS THE FIRST WOMAN TO BE APPOINTED TO THE POSITION OF DEPUTY COLLECTOR OF THE IRS.
SHE MARRIED HORACE REG LEE IN 1946, AND THE FAMILY MOVED TO GONZALEZ, WHERE HR LEE O OPERATED A CAR DEALERSHIP THAT WAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT MAY MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION, THOUGH AS THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED IN 1982.
HISTORIC AGE RESEARCH IS LARGELY UNAVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC SOURCES.
THE BUILDING APPEARS TO BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF TEXAS VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURE AND APPEARS TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH AMELIA F LEE, THE FIRST WOMAN APPOINTED TO THE POSITION OF DEPUTY COLLECTOR OF THE IRS.
HOWEVER, LEE'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY IS A VACATION HOME IS UNCLEAR.
UH, THEREFORE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, IS IF THE COMMISSION FEELS THAT THE LIMITED INFORMATION AVAILABLE ABOUT THE PROPERTY'S HISTORIC USE AND CONSTRUCTION DATE IS SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION, INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.
OTHERWISE, STAFF RECOMMENDS ENCOURAGING REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, BUT RELEASE OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UH, WE CONTINUED THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FROM THE LAST MEETING, BUT WE, UH, ARE NOW ABLE TO HEAR AGAIN FROM THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, AS YOU SHARED, UH, CHAIRMAN, I WAS HERE LAST MONTH AND, AND I GAVE SOME UPDATES.
I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO FOLKS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, MAKE SURE YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
UH, MY WIFE AND I BECAME AWARE OF THIS PROPERTY ON PIERCE OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS.
UH, WE USED TO LIVE IN THE GENERAL NORTHWEST AREA.
UH, WE WOULD GO DOWN TO A SMALL BUSINESS SKI SHORES, UM, ACROSS THE STREET.
THE THING THAT CAUGHT OUR ATTENTION WHERE THE TREES ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH I SPOKE OF AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, THE ARBORIST SAYS THOSE TREES ARE 400 TO 400 50-YEAR-OLD
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OAKS.UM, WE WERE ALWAYS CURIOUS AS TO WHY NOBODY LIVED IN THAT OLD CABIN.
UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, AS WE WOULD WALK DOWN THERE, TOLD US IT HAD BEEN OPEN FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS.
UM, ONE THOUGHT THAT AFTER THE HUSBAND OF THE FAMILY HAD PASSED AWAY IN THE SIXTIES, THE HIS WIFE AND KIDS WOULD VISIT UP TO ONE WEEK A YEAR OVER A COUPLE YEARS, KIND OF AS A SUMMER, UH, COTTAGE.
UH, THE FURNITURE, APPLIANCES AND PERSONAL ITEMS ARE THAT WERE LEFT BEHIND AS IT SITS TODAY, AND THE CHAIRMAN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME OUT AND VIEW THE PROPERTY.
UH, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A FEW PEOPLE THERE SINCE.
THERE WAS A SMALL STORY STRUCTURE THAT ACTUALLY ON THE CONCRETE, ONE OF THE CHILDREN LOOKS LIKE THEY SIGNED IN 1971 OR 72, UH, WHEN THEY BUILT THAT ALSO HAS A LOT OF PERSONAL ITEMS, THEIR BIKES, FURNITURE.
UM, A FRIEND CALLED MY WIFE TO LET US KNOW THAT SHE SAW A SIGN GOING IN THAT YARD LAST YEAR.
UM, AND OF COURSE WE WERE VERY INTERESTED.
WE WERE INTERESTED FOR YEARS, WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE PROPERTY, MAKE SURE THERE WEREN'T ANY LIENS OR CONSTRUCTION RESTRICTIONS.
UH, AS DID RODNEY, OUR ARCHITECT AHEAD OF US PURCHASING.
I MENTIONED MY WIFE HAS HEALTH ISSUES.
UM, BUILDING AN A DA COMPLIANT HOME IMPROVES HER QUALITY OF LIFE AND INCLUDING THE OBVIOUS SHOWER AND BATHROOM SINKS THAT SHE CAN ACCESS.
CABINETS, DRAWERS, CLOSETS, PANTRIES.
UM, RODNEY'S DESIGNED THE HOME TO THAT EXTENT, UH, AS A ZERO SLOPE FLOOR, THE NEW DESIGN TO ALLOW OUR ACCESS IN HER WHEELCHAIR THROUGHOUT THE HOME.
UM, CHAIRMAN NOTED THE LAST REVIEW THAT THE HOME DESIGN'S FAIRLY MODEST FOR THE AREA THAT IT'S IN.
UM, WIDE OPEN SPACES, AGAIN, IMPROVING MY WIFE'S INDEPENDENCE, QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE HAVE A NURSE THAT HELPS US OUT.
UH, LIKEWISE, IT WOULD, UH, MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR HER AS WELL AS MYSELF AND CERTAINLY MY WIFE.
AND THAT'S BEEN THE GOAL FOR, UH, THESE AND OTHER REASONS AND A GENERAL CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE.
UH, WE HAD A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY.
UH, IT JUST DOESN'T MEET OUR NEEDS.
UM, TRYING TO WORK WITH IT TO MEET THE NEEDS.
UM, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY OPTIONS.
WE'VE WORKED TO MEET THE CITY AND, UH, COUNTY CRITERIA AND THE DESIGN MEETING, THOSE CODE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN THERE.
AND I THINK IT'S IN YOUR PACKAGES.
THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME THINGS SHOWING THAT THE PROPERTY'S FAIRLY LIMITED IN WHERE WE CAN BUILD BECAUSE OF THE TREES, THE ZONING, FLOOD PLAINS, ET CETERA.
SO, AND WE THINK WE'VE GOT A HOME THAT WOULD WORK TIME'S.
UH, THE MOST CRITICAL ASPECT FOR US.
I KNOW EVERYBODY IN AUSTIN'S URGENT WITH PROJECTS.
UM, MOST OF THEM ARE TIME CONSTRAINED FOR ECONOMIC REASONS.
OURS IS THE MOTIVATION, UH, FOR MY WIFE'S HEALTH.
SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT TIME TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND HOPEFULLY GET MOVING FORWARD.
OUR GOAL IS TO BECOME THE CARETAKERS OF THOSE TREES AND KEEP THAT IN OUR FAMILY FOR, FOR GENERATIONS.
MR. MCCAIN, I THINK THAT WAS THE, THE BUZZER FOR TIME.
IS THAT CORRECT? I APPRECIATE IT.
SO, UH, JUST A MOMENT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS.
AND I, I WANTED TO NOTE THE DEMO, A PERSON THAT WAS HERE IN JANUARY JUST SAID FOR ME TO SHARE THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS.
HE SAID HE FILED A VALID PETITION, UH, WHEN HE REQUESTED IT INITIALLY.
SO I, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT THAT MEANS, BUT HE SAID TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE.
ARE THERE OTHERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS OR ANYBODY WHO'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS A DEMOLITION REQUEST FOR THE BUILDING.
WE ALSO HAVE RODNEY PALMER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? OKAY.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK, UH, AGAINST THIS REQUEST? OKAY, HEARING NONE.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A SECOND? UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
AND IT'S DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE, UH, AS, UH, THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED I WAS AT THE SITE, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT IT IS IN CURRENT STATE.
UH, IT IS CERTAINLY A, UH, VACATION CABIN.
IT WAS NEVER A FULL-TIME, UH, RESIDENCE.
AND THERE ARE STRUCTURAL ISSUES IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION, UH, WHICH WOULD HAVE
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TO BE ADDRESSED IF THIS WERE TO BE RESTORED ON THE OTHER SIDE.UH, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE RARE EXAMPLES OF A RECREATIONAL USE IN ADVANCE OF ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NOW HAVE ON TOWN LAKE.
UH, SO, UH, IT, IT PREDATES ALMOST ANYTHING ELSE THAT I KNOW OF IN THAT AREA.
SO IT'D BE A, IT'D BE, IT'S A, AN AMAZING THING THAT IT'S HERE.
UH, IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LOSE, BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES ITS CURRENT CONDITION, UH, IT DOESN'T WARRANT A QUICK FIX, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY, AS I COULD TELL.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, I, I'M, I'M GOING ON WITHOUT A MOTION AND THAT'S, I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, AND, AND MAYBE, UH, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN THERE, CHAIR HEIM, SETH, YOU CAN OPINE ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE A LATER ADDITION ON THE REAR OF THE HOME.
YOU MAY ASK THE APPLICANT, UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, GO AHEAD.
UH, WELL, THAT APPEARS TO BE, THAT, IS THERE IN FACT A LATER ADDITION ON THE REAR OF THE HOME THAT'S GLAD AND SIDING AS AS OPPOSED TO STONE.
IS THAT ACCURATE? UH, AGAIN, IT, IT LOOKS TO BE A LATER ADDITION.
I THINK, UH, WHEN THE CHAIRMAN WAS OUT, HE, HE CONCURRED WITH THAT.
UM, UH, THERE'S VERY MUCH, UH, UH, THE, THE ISSUE HERE IS STRICTLY THE BUILDING PORTION, WHICH IS JUST ONE LARGE ROOM, ESSENTIALLY WITH A FIREPLACE IN THE MIDDLE THAT'S HISTORIC.
UH, THE ADDITION ON THE BACK LOOKS LIKE IT PROBABLY WAS SOMETIME MAYBE IN THE FIFTIES OR SIXTIES, BUT IT WAS POORLY DONE.
UH, EVEN THE WAY IT IS ATTACHED, UH, THEY ROUTED OUT AROUND THE OLD STONE AND DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER CHINKING IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S
AND MOST OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU SEE IN THE PACKET, UH, OF DETERIORATION ARE OF THAT BACK WING, WHICH CERTAINLY WOULD, WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, REMOVED.
AND, AND SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION, SIR, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TO TAKE THE TIME TO VISIT WITH US TONIGHT.
MY MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT YOUR LOT SITE AND, AND KNOWING YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM AWAY FROM THE TREES ON ONE SIDE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.
IS THERE NO APPETITE TO KIND OF INCORPORATE THE, THE NEW BUILD INTO THAT PROPERTY? YEAH, I THINK THE CHALLENGE, UH, WHEN WE TALKED WITH RODNEY ON THE ARCHITECTURAL SIDE IS BECAUSE OF MY WIFE'S CONDITION.
UM, STRUCTURALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT STONE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I'M, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS SPACE, BUT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO CONTROL THE CLIMATE OR DO ANYTHING WITH THAT, PROBABLY A CHALLENGE.
UH, THE, THE FLOORS, UH, ARE GOING THROUGH AND, AND LITERALLY WHEN WE, THAT DESIGN THAT'S IN THERE NOW, THERE ARE SIDES OF THAT DESIGN WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE OF THOSE TREES THAT ACTUALLY BECOME PRETTY PROHIBITIVE.
UM, I THINK ON THE FRONT OF THAT DESIGN, THERE'S ACTUALLY, ON THE PATIO, THERE'S A ELEVATED, UH, PATIO ABOVE THE GROUND A FEW INCHES AGAIN, UH, TO MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS.
SO FOR US, STRUCTURALLY, WHEN WE SAW IT AND, AND THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER NOTED SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES OF HOW COULD YOU WORK THIS IN OR WORK IT AROUND, REALLY JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO COME TO ANY CLEAR CONCLUSION THAT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE SPACE WE HAD WOULD SUPPORT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO ON THE A DA SIDE AND INCORPORATE THAT IN.
AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT, UH, WHEN THE CHAIRMAN VISITED HE BROUGHT UP IS, IS THAT A POTENTIAL OPTION? SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE FOUND ONE.
UM, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WOULD MEET THE NEEDS FROM MY WIFE AND I.
AND I, I WILL ADD MAYBE IN RESPONSE TO YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TREES.
UH, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS THAT MAYBE WE COULD HELP THIS APPLICANT AND DO SOMETHING TO, UH, MAYBE ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE OF THE TREE LIMITATIONS ON YOUR LOT.
I SAW THOSE TREES AND THEY ARE HUGE, ANCIENT, MAGNIFICENT OAK TREES.
AND I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY, THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD ARGUE THAT SOMEHOW BUILDING, UH, AND COMPROMISING THE TREES WOULD BE PREFERABLE.
SO, UH, IT IS A DILEMMA JUST BASED ON THE LOCATION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WE ARE GOING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, WE HAVE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL MOVE TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT PENDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
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TO RELEASE THE PERMIT, UH, PENDING A DOCUMENTATION PACKET FROM COMMISSIONER COOK.WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? IT'S A REALLY GREAT, UNIQUE, UH, PROPERTY.
UM, OBVIOUSLY HAS ISSUES WITH FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE RECENTLY VOTED DOWN PROPERTIES IN MUCH BETTER CONDITION FOR THE SAKE OF NOT WANTING TO IMPOSE A RESTORATION UPON AN OWNER.
UH, I THINK THIS DEFINITELY STANDS HERE.
BUT IN ADDITION, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE, UH, HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMUNITY VALUE, ALTHOUGH THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH OTHER VACATION OR, UH, PROPERTIES ON MORE IN THE PERIMETER OF AUSTIN, BUT MUCH CLOSER INTO TOWN ALONG THE LAKE.
UH, COMMUNITY VALUE, I THINK GETS HARDER TO PROVE THE FARTHER A FIELD YOU GET FROM THE CENTER OF TOWN WHERE, UM, IT BRINGS ECONOMIC VALUE AND, UM, AND COMMUNITY VALUE IN TERMS OF MANY PEOPLE GETTING TO SEE IT.
SO I JUST DON'T SEE THIS BEING A STRONG ENOUGH CASE.
UM, I'M SURE THE OWNER WOULD, WOULD SAVE AT LEAST THE FRONT PORCH IF THEY COULD, BUT, UM, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM FEASIBLE AND, UH, NOT EXCITED ABOUT IT.
BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS ONE THAT WE CAN SAVE.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, LAROCHE YOU SECOND? NO, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD THEN.
I JUST WANTED TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE, UH, SAVING AND, AND REUSING AS MUCH OF THAT STONE AS POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE CONFIGURATION OF THE FRONT PORCH OR IN, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THESE WALLS AS THEY CURRENTLY STAND.
BUT TO KEEP THOSE STONES THAT THEY FEEL LIKE, UM, SO MUCH OF THE, THE, THE BONES OF THE HISTORY THERE AND, AND TO PUT THEM BACK ANYWHERE, ANYWHERE, ANYWHERE THAT YOU CAN FIND TO MAKE SENSE WITHIN THE DESIGN WOULD REALLY HELP MAKE A CONNECTION TO THE HISTORY OF THE SITE.
SO, AND I'M, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION IN ORDER TO, UH, ALLOW THE OWNER TO EXPEDITE THEIR PROJECT, BUT I ALSO AM GONNA HAVE A PERSONAL REQUEST.
AND I APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT THIS OWNER HAS BROUGHT FORTH THEIR NEEDS, HAS BEEN OPEN IN THIS ABILITY TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH US, UH, WELCOMED ME IN, SHOWING ME NOT ONLY THEIR SITE, THEIR UH, UH, ALL OF THEIR ISSUES.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HARD DILEMMAS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE, UH, IN HAVING A BUILDING OF THIS KIND, WHICH IS REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A RUSTIC CABIN.
IT WAS JUST THERE AS A, YOU KNOW, VACATION SPOT.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS USED FOR FISHING OR FAMILIES OR SOMETHING LONG BEFORE THAT BECAME FASHIONABLE.
UH, INTERIOR OF THIS HAS THAT WONDERFUL STONE FIREPLACE, AND I WILL ASK THAT AS YOU PUT YOUR DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE TOGETHER.
AND THAT WOULD BE, PHOTOGRAPHS IS REQUIRED, BUT WITH YOUR ARCHITECT'S HELP, I DO BELIEVE YOU COULD EXPAND AND DO A LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION WITH DRAWINGS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR HISTORIC RECORD, SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT BUILDING, EVEN IF IT'S NO LONGER ON THE SITE.
AND IF I COULD JUST AS A PERSONAL REQUEST, ASK YOU TO EXPAND BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS IN YOUR DOCUMENTATION.
UH, WE HAVE A HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL BUILDING SURVEY SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES, HABS DRAWINGS WHERE ELEVATIONS PLANS, AND IN THIS CASE, INTERIORS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE AN UNDUE REQUEST, AND I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN MEMORIALIZING, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BUILDING.
UH, AND I WOULD WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
AGAIN, AS A PERSONAL REQUEST, UM, I'M SEEING A, I'M SEEING A NOD HERE FROM THE AUDIENCE, SO THANK YOU DEB.
AND, UH, MY WIFE WOULD BE A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF THAT AS WELL.
UH, SHE WAS DRAWN TO THAT FIREPLACE, UH, WHEN SHE SAW IT, SO, YEAH, APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I THINK ON THE STONE, UH, SAME TYPE OF DISCUSSION WITH, WITH, UH, PAVERS AND, AND JUST TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO THERE TO MAINTAIN EVERY ASPECT OF IT.
I THINK SOMEBODY HAS A HAND UP BEHIND YOU.
YEAH, I THINK, UH, ONE SUGGESTION I MAY HAVE FOR YOU IS THE, UH, THE PRESERVATION GROUP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.
THAT ARCHITECTURAL GROUP, UH, THOSE STUDENTS YOU COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO, UH, EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO PROFESSORS.
AND THEY PROBABLY DO A REAL NICE JOB ON THE HA SURVEY FOR YOU.
'CAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS LIKE THAT FOR THEIR STUDENTS.
WE CERTAINLY THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD INTRODUCTIONS FOR YOU IF NEEDED.
YEAH, I'LL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT.
IT, I WAS GONNA GO IN THE OTHER DIRECTION WITH
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JUST IDEAS THAT ARE COMING TO MY HEAD.IF, IF YOU COULD TWEAK THE PROPORTIONS OF YOUR GREAT ROOM TO MATCH THIS, JUST ANY TENUOUS LITTLE BIT THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE VISITORS OVER, YOU COULD, IT WOULD COMPEL YOU TO TELL THE STORY OF WHAT USED TO BE THERE.
AND ANOTHER IDEA, JUST, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE LIVING ON THE SIDE OF ONE OF THE FIRST FISHING, FISHING CABINS THAT, UH, YEAH.
GOT PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT, UH, HOW TO USE THE, THE LAKE A LITTLE DIFFERENT OR THE RIVER A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY OTHER OTHERWISE WOULD'VE.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, SIR.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RELEASE THE PERMIT PENDING A, UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND ONE OPPOSED.
AND SO THAT IS A QUORUM VOTE AND THAT WOULD BE APPROVED.
[21. PR-2024-006147 – 4601 Chiappero Trl. ]
ITEM PULLED FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM NUMBER 21.THIS IS 46 0 1 CHIRO TRAIL, AND, UH, THIS IS A PARTIAL DEMOLITION REQUEST.
ITEM 21, UM, IS A FAMILIAR PROPERTY.
UM, THIS NEW PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT A TWO STORY ADDITION TO A ONE STORY, UH, CIRCA 1960 HOUSE AT 46 0 1 CHRO TRAIL, UM, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION OF A DETACHED ACCESSORY BUILDING A POOL AND A PATIO, UM, REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF WINDOWS AND DOORS IS ALSO PROPOSED, AS WELL AS REMOVAL OF EXTERIOR CLADDING, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THE STORING OF THE EXISTING TEARDROP SIDING FOR REUSE IN THE NEW DESIGN.
UH, THIS ITEM CAME TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE AS A NEAR TOTAL DEMOLITION, UH, WITH ONLY THE SLAB REMAINING.
UM, AND THIS IS NOW A, UH, AN ADDITION RATHER THAN A, UM, MOSTLY, MOSTLY TOTAL DEMO.
UH, THE HOUSE AT 46 0 1 CHAPARRO TRAIL IS OF MID-CENTURY MODERN DESIGN, AND WAS CONSTRUCTED AS A FAMILY HOME BY ARCHITECT WARREN, A WILHOIT IN 1960.
UM, WILHOIT LIVED IN THE HOME UNTIL HIS DEATH IN 1995, AND HIS WIFE JULIA, REMAINED THERE UNTIL HER OWN PASSING.
IN 2021 WARREN AUGUST WILHOIT WAS EMPLOYED WITH CH PAGE DURING THE 1950S.
HE BUILT HIS FAMILY HOME ON THE EDGE OF A SIGNIFICANT GROUPING OF SIMILAR HOMES DESIGNED IN THE PREVIOUS DECADE BY HARBERT CREME CROOM AND WIL HOYT BOTH WORKED WITH ARTHUR FAIR AND BOTH MRS. CRUM AND MRS. WIL HOYT SERVED WITH THE WOMEN'S ARCHITECTURAL LEAGUE.
JULIA ELIZABETH ALIANT WILHOIT WAS AN EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION SPECIALIST WHO WORKED AS DIRECTOR OF ALL SAINTS EPISCOPAL SCHOOL AND SERVE TWO TERMS ON THE TEXAS ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.
STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT MAY MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
THEREFORE, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE HOME'S HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS ARE SUFFICIENT FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
AND IF SO, INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.
SHOULD THE COMMISSION DECIDE AGAINST INITIATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDS RELEASE OF THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE AS THE APPLICANT HAS AMENDED THE DESIGN TO RETAIN MORE HISTORIC FABRIC THAN PREVIOUS REMODEL PLANS, UH, THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE HLC.
UM, IS THERE, UH, THE APPLICANT HERE TO, UH, SPEAK TO THEIR REQUEST? OKAY.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MY WIFE EMILY AND I ARE THE OWNERS OF 46 0 1 CHIP ROW.
UM, WE WERE HERE IN OCTOBER AND VISITED WITH YOU ALL ON OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
UM, SINCE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION NEIGHBORS AND, UM, THE FAMILY OF THE ARCHITECTS, UH, WE'VE WORKED SINCE THEN, UH, TO REVISE OUR DESIGN TO, UH, FOLLOW AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE.
THE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR A RENOVATION AND AN ADDITION.
UH, WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO PRESERVE THE PRIMARY FACADES OF THE ORIGINAL ONE STORY HOME, UH, WHILE ADDING ON A SECOND FLOOR ON THE BACK PORTION OF THE HOUSE.
UM, WE MET WITH THE A RC AFTER OUR FIRST VISIT WITH THE COMMISSION, UM, LAST YEAR, AND PRESENTED A COUPLE OPTIONS OF WHAT MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE FOR ALTERATIONS.
UM, THE DESIGN THAT YOU ALL ARE SEEING NOW IS ACTUALLY, UH, SLIGHTLY EVEN MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE A RC.
UM, WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INCORPORATE, YOU KNOW, UH, HVAC SYSTEMS FOR THAT EXISTING PORTION OF THE HOME.
AND WE'VE, UH, WORKED REALLY HARD ON THAT TO TRY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH, UM, OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE STREET VIEW OF THE HOME AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE VISITED WITH, UH, NEIGHBORS ON THE NEW DESIGN, INCLUDING OUR NEIGHBOR, UH, NEXT DOOR,
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WHO'S INTERESTED IN PURSUING A, A DISTRICT DESIGNATION FOR THE CREW HOMES AND THIS ONE, UH, AS WELL AS SHARED THE DESIGN.AND, UH, CORRESPONDED WITH THE SON OF THE ARCHITECT WHO'S BEEN REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US UNDERSTAND HIS FATHER'S INTENT AS, UH, WELL AS UNDERSTANDING MORE OF THE HISTORY OF THE HOME.
UM, SO WE ARE COMING BACK TO YOU NOW WITH A DESIGN WHERE WE'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS BEST WE COULD PRESERVED EVERYTHING ABOUT THE HOUSE THAT YOU SEE FROM THE STREET, MAINTAIN ITS INTEGRITY TO, UH, THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHILE ALSO TRYING TO MAKE IT, UH, ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF OUR FAMILY.
WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS IS OUR FOREVER HOME.
UM, AND SO THAT'S THE INTENT, UH, OF THE, THE PLANS AND THE DESIGN THAT YOU SEE NOW.
UM, COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT? I, I'M NOT SURE IF I MISSED IT JUST NOW, BUT I I DO RECALL PREVIOUSLY YOU AND YOUR WIFE ARE ARCHITECTS YOURSELVES THOUGH.
YES, I, I'M, I'M AN ARCHITECT, UH, WITH MICHAEL SHU OFFICE OF ARCHITECTURE HERE IN TOWN.
MY, MY WIFE IS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
UM, SINCE OUR FIRST MEETING WITH Y'ALL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALSO TEAMED UP WITH MOON TOWER DESIGN BUILD, UM, TO HELP US FURTHER KIND OF TAKE OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN INTENT AND MELD IT WITH THE HISTORIC GUIDELINES TO TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TWO.
I KNOW MOON TOWER, UM, VERY, VERY, VERY WELL, BUT, UH, HAVEN'T BEEN WITH THEM PROFESSIONALLY FOR A FEW YEARS, SO, OKAY.
UM, WELL, NO REASON TO TIME WE'RE YOU'RE ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK, UH, ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
UH, MY NAME IS CLAUDIA DELA VEGA AND I'M PART OF THE MOON TOWER DESIGN BUILD TEAM.
UH, WE ARE THE ARCHITECTS THAT ENTRUSTED DAVID AND EMILY ENTRUSTED US WITH TO UNDERTAKE THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE CHERISH HOME AT 46 0 1 SHAPIRO TRAIL.
UM, OUR GOAL HERE TODAY IS TO OFFER INSIGHT INTO THE EFFORTS TAKEN TO SEAMLESSLY INTEGRATE THE PROPOSED EDITION, UM, TAILORED TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF TUCKER'S GROWING FAMILY WHILE HONORING THE TIMELESS ESSENCE OF THE EXISTING HOME.
IN EVERY STEP OF THE REDESIGN PROCESS, WE HAVE APPROACHED IT WITH UTMOST REVERENCE FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS RESIDENCE TO NOT ONLY THE TUCKERS, BUT TO THE COMMUNITY IT RESIDES IN.
UM, AS ARCHITECTS AND BUILDERS, IT IS OUR PRIVILEGE TO BE STEWARDS OF THE BUILD ENVIRONMENT.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN EMBODIES A COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY AND EFFICIENCY, UM, THROUGH THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF SELECTIONS OF ENERGY EFFICIENT EXTERIOR MATERIALS, STRATEGIC PLACEMENT OF LOW IMPACT BUILDING SYSTEMS AND THOUGHTFUL SOLUTIONS FOR THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.
WE AIM TO ENHANCE THE HOME'S COMFORT, RESILIENCE, AND LONGEVITY.
UM, EVERY ELEMENT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED TO MINIMIZE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND ENSURE THE ENDURANCE OF BOTH THE NEW AND EXISTING MATERIALS.
UM, WITH THE TUCKER'S HOME, WE HAVE EMBRACED THIS RESPONSIBILITY WHOLEHEARTEDLY STRIVING TO CRAFT A DESIGN THAT PROVIDES A BLEND OF TRADITION WITH INNOVATION.
WE STRONGLY FEEL THAT THE PROPOSED REDESIGN OF THE TUCKER'S HOME IS NOT MERELY AN EXTENSION THAT AN EVOLUTION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
UM, OUR DESIGN PHILOSOPHY, AS I'M SURE YOU MIGHT BE AWARE OF, UM, WITH MOONTOWER, HAS ALWAYS BEEN GUIDED BY THEIR PRINCIPLE OF ENHANCING THE FUNCTIONALITY WITH PRESERVING THE CHARACTER AND CHARM THAT MAKES THIS HOUSE WITH SO MUCH HISTORY AT HOME.
UM, AND I'M SURE LIKE, JUST TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT DAVID HAD ALREADY MENTIONED TO YOU ALL, UH, WE WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO REALLY, UM, MODIFY THEIR EX THEIR PROPOSED ORIGINAL DESIGN TO FIT WITHIN THE HISTORICAL GUIDELINES.
UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WE REALLY DID TRY TO PRESERVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OR A BIG MAJORITY OF THAT FRONT FACADE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE, AND REALLY MINIMIZE THE IMPACT IN THAT BACK FOR YOUR END.
UM, WHILE ALSO CONSIDERING THE EXISTING TREES THAT WE HAVE ON SITE, UM, AS WELL AS KIND OF KEEPING THAT LOW PROFILE THAT KIND OF SPEAKS TO A LOT TO THAT, UM, TO THE ORIGINAL STYLE OF THE HOME.
UM, WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED, UM, A QUICK RENDERING WITH, YOU KNOW, SHOWING WHERE THE TREES ARE.
UH, WE'VE GONE TO THE EXTENT OF HAVING AN ARBORIST KIND OF CHECKED OUT THE TREE CANOPY JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OVER TRIMMING THE TREE.
UM, BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTION, UH, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PREVIOUS DESIGN YOU GUYS SAW LAST YEAR.
SO WE HOPE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE GONE TO AS WELL AS THE TIME AND EFFORTS THAT, UH, THE TUCKERS HAVE GONE THROUGH, UH, TO GET US HERE TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE ARCHITECT? NO, THANK YOU.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN FAVOR? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK? OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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AND IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.BY COMMISSIONER COOK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER, UH, FEATHERSTON, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER QUARTER.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, INDICATE BY SAYING, AYE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE ON THIS? WE CERTAINLY HAVE SEEN A GREAT DEAL OF CHANGE, UH, FROM THE STREET.
THERE CERTAINLY IS, UH, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
COMMISSIONER LAROCHE IS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING.
UH, NOW THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I, I DID WANT TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT AND THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM, BUT, AND JUST, JUST SO I CAN SPEAK BEFORE MY ARCHITECTURAL COLLEAGUES, I'M THE ONE ENGINEER IN THE PANEL, AND SO YOU CAN ONLY TAKE WHAT I SAY ARCHITECTURALLY AS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
BUT I, I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AND I COMMEND YOU FOR REALLY DILIGENT WORK IN PRESERVING THAT FRONT FACADE AND THE ACTUAL INTEGRITY AND THE MID MODERN STATURE OF THE HOME.
AND WITH THAT ALL SAID, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE HER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER LA ROCHE, UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND ON YOUR MOTION? COMMISSIONER LA ROCHE? NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR THIS TYPE OF COLLABORATION AND ENDEAVOR IN, IN, UH, REALLY REACHING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MEET THOSE PRESERVATION STANDARDS AND, AND I APPLAUD THEIR EFFORT.
COMMISSIONER COOK? UH, I, I AGREE.
UM, THE TWO STORY EDITION ON WHAT IS A VERY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOW SLUNG NATURE OF THE DESIGN IS DIFFICULT, UH, BALANCE.
AND IF THIS WERE A LANDMARK, IT'D PROBABLY PUSH A LITTLE HARDER BACK.
BUT DEFINITELY THERE'S AN EFFORT TO KEEP THE SPIRIT OF IT.
THE ADDITION WALL TWO STORY HAS MATCHING ROOF LINES AND, AND STYLE.
UH, I BELIEVE IT WOULD STILL CONTRIBUTE TOWARD A LOCAL DISTRICT.
UH, IF WE WERE THE FACT THAT IT'S ONE BUILDING OFF OF, UH, STREET FRONT, WHICH I GUESS YOU COULD CALL A STREET FRONT ON A CUL-DE-SAC, A UM, A STREET, YOU KNOW, BLOCK STREET FRONT, A BLOCK FACE, A CIRCULAR BLOCK FACE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PUSHBACK TO, BUT SINCE IT'S ONE PROPERTY OFF, I THINK IT COULD STILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE DISTRICT, UH, WITHOUT BEING ONE OF THE KEY PROPERTIES.
AND, UH, I REALLY HOPE WHOEVER IS PUTTING THAT LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT TOGETHER CAN GET EVERYONE ON THE CUL-DE-SAC TO AGREE.
'CAUSE THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ONE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, RIGHT? UH, IS APPROVAL IS, UH, WITH THE, UH, CURRENT REVISED PLANS, UH, IS THE MOTION.
AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
AND I SEE SEVEN HANDS, SO IT IS UNANIMOUS.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS NOT EASY.
WE ALSO APPRECIATE THAT WAS A TOUGH SITE TO WORK WITH, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DILIGENCE.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, THAT BRINGS US TO, LET'S SEE.
WE ALSO HAVE A SPEAKER WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON 25 0 3 BRIDAL PATH.
THERE IS A SPEAKER WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON 25 0 3 BRIDAL PATH.
UH, SHE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE SITE.
SHE'D JUST LIKE TO BRING THOSE TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION.
DID THAT BRIDAL PATH ON CONSENT, WE PASSED IT ON CONSENT.
AND I SUPPORT THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
IT'S, UH, I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR AT 25 0 5 BRIDAL PATH.
MY CONCERN, THE REASON I'M HERE, UM, I AM IN SUPPORT OF DEMOING IT AND I'M GLAD THAT'S PASSED.
BUT, UM, IT'S AN OLDER BUILDING THAT'S BUILT IN THE FORTIES OR THE FIFTIES.
IT'S GOT A LOT OF ASBESTOS, UH, SHINGLES ALL OVER IT.
UM, AND MY CONCERN IS REALLY MORE JUST ENVIRONMENTAL.
I, I REALIZE THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU DO HERE IS VERY NARROW.
SO YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THIS AT ALL, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION OR CLARITY ABOUT LIKE NEXT STEPS, HOW DO I PREVENT, I I HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS AROUND ME THAT ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN THEY GO IN WITH BULLDOZERS, IT'S A RATHER LARGE YEP.
AND THEY START MAKING A LOT OF DEATHS.
I'M LIKE 10 FEET AWAY FROM IT, SO, OKAY.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO HOLD YOU UP HERE.
'CAUSE YOU CERTAINLY ARE IN THIS CASE, OUT OF ORDER FOR AN ITEM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PASSED.
HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC PROCEDURES THAT ARE REQUIRED OF A PROPERTY GOING THROUGH DEMOLITION.
IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO OUR STAFF OR OUR, UH, COMMISSION.
BUT AS AN ARCHITECT AND WORKING THROUGH VERY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, YOU SHOULD
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NOT BE CONCERNED BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE HANDLED PROPERLY.AND THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS, UH, AT THE CITY WHO CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
AND I THINK BETWEEN SAM AND CALLAN, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DIRECT YOU SPECIFICALLY TO SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE, UH, IF THEY ARE NOT ADHERED TO, THERE ALSO ARE REMEDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOT EVER A PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO WE, WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.
UM, AND THEN I GUESS AGAIN, PROBABLY NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS, BUT I KEEP HEARING YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE THERE'S A, A TIME PERIOD AFTER SOMETHING IS DI DEMO, THERE'S A DEMO PERMIT.
SO WHEN WOULD I BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WILL BE BUILT THERE OR WHO THE BUILDER IS OR ANY OF THAT STUFF? WILL THAT COME UP AS A HEARING? I DON'T RECALL.
IS THIS A CASE THAT'S IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT? OKAY.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE OKAY.
OF WHAT'S GOING TO REPLACE THE BUILDING.
IF IT'S NOT PART OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEN WE ONLY HAVE THE DEMOLITION REVIEW.
UH, HOWEVER, THERE IS A PROCEDURE, AND AGAIN, YOU CAN WORK WITH SOME OF THE CITY STAFF YES.
AND YOU HAVE ACCESS ONLINE TO ANY OF THE BUILDING PERMITS.
UH, THE PUBLIC HAS ALL OF THAT ACCESSIBLE.
IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO FIGURE OUT, BUT IF YOU'RE DILIGENT, YOU'LL FIND IT.
I'VE DONE IT BEFORE I CAN, I'VE GONE IN AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE, WELL, HOW DO I KNOW? BUT I GUESS THEY DO HAVE A TIMEFRAME THAT THEY HAVE TO, WELL, THE, THE TIMEFRAME YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT IS ENTIRELY A MATTER OF AN APPLICANT WHO WANTS TO DEMOLISH IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM THAT PERMISSION.
THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE CAN HOLD UP ESSENTIALLY A PROJECT UNTIL THEN BY LAW IT JUST TIMES OUT.
WE, WE RECENTLY HAD A PROJECT THAT, UM, WAS IN A DISTRICT THAT WOULD'VE ALLOWED US TO SEE THE REBUILD PLANS.
BUT THOSE ARE NOT REQUIRED AS PART OF THE DEMOLITION PACKAGE.
SO THIS DEMO DEMOLITION, THAT'S A SEPARATE REQUIREMENT.
THE DEMOLITION IS INDEPENDENT OF WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE REBUILT.
AND IT COULD BE A VACANT LOT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR ALL WE KNOW.
UM, BUT JUST KEEP, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO LOOK UP THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
BUT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE FORMALITIES WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU.
YOU'RE STAKING AROUND EVEN AFTER THE ITEM WAS PASSED CONSENT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I YEAH, GOT IT.
MY, MY VOICE HEARD ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THIS.
AND SO I KNOW THAT AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THINGS FROM A HISTORICAL STANDPOINT, A LOT OF TIMES THE MATERIALS THEY USE IN THESE OLDER HOMES ARE YEAH.
THAT, THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN AN OLDER HOME IS DEMOLISHED.
UM, SO WE HAD ANOTHER, WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE GO TO OUR COMMITTEE ITEMS? ALRIGHT, WE WILL THEN GO TO ITEM NUMBER, NUMBER 2028,
[28. Grants Committee]
THE GRANTS COMMITTEE.UH, I KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO GET A MEETING SET UP, UH, WITH MS. ALVARADO.
UH, WHERE DO WE STAND AT THIS POINT? SO JUST GIMME A MOMENT.
I SET UP A DOODLE POLL FOR ALL THE GRANTS COMMITTEE APPLICANTS, OR NOT APPLICANTS, THE COM COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UH, SO I'LL HAVE A LOOK AT THAT REAL QUICK AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
[29. Architectural Review Committee]
ALSO HAVE ITEM NUMBER 29 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.WE HEARD THE NUMBER OF THE SIXTH STREET PROPERTIES, WHICH PASSED ON CONSENT TONIGHT.
UH, WE SAW, UM, IN ADVANCE VISIT ON A LANDMARK ON WESTLAND.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE PEOPLE UTILIZE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, VERY SENSITIVELY DONE.
UM, WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THE STATE THEATER BLADE SIGN, WHICH I'M SOFTENING ON A LITTLE BIT.
UH, STILL WANT MAKE SURE WE HAVE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS LIKE NEON.
UH, BUT THAT IT, IT'S MOVING FORWARD TO BEING FULLY REPLACED.
UH, BUT THEY ALSO WANT TO, UH, THE OWNER WANTS TO REPLACE THE WOODEN DOORS AND TRANSOMS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE PARAMOUNT AS WELL, WHICH WE KIND OF PUSH BACK ON, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE FOCUSING ON RETENTION RATHER THAN REPLACEMENT WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, THOSE WERE THE, THOSE WERE THE HIGHLIGHTS.
[30. Operations Committee]
OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.I, I, UH, REQUEST STAFF TO TRY TO PUT ONE ON THE BOOKS FOR US.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT.
UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE WE DID HAVE, I THOUGHT WE GOT A GOOD START ON A LOT OF THINGS, BUT, UH, WE NEED TO PICK THEM BACK UP.
HAVEN'T MET THIS IN SINCE THE MOST RECENT MEETING.
AND, UM, IN, IN LIGHT OF, UH, COMMISSIONER CASTILLO WHO, UH, LET US KNOW, HE'S GOT TO DEAL WITH HIS KIDS
[31. Preservation Plan Committee]
WILL GO AHEAD AND REPORT FROM THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.[01:40:01]
THINGS ARE GETTING VERY EXCITING.UH, WE HAD A, UH, OFFICIAL KICKOFF, UH, AT, UH, HOUSTON TILLISON THAT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION EXCHANGED ABOUT THE VARIOUS GROUPS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED.
UH, SOME OF THE, UH, UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, ALREADY HAVE BEEN, UH, VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US RE RE-ENVISION OUR PLANNING.
UH, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, UH, LAST WEEK WE HAD A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, CALLED WITH THE WORKING GROUP.
SO REPRESENTATIVES WHO WERE APPOINTED, UH, AS A OFFICIAL REPRESENTATION FROM THIS COMMITTEE, UH, AND APPLIED AND PUT THEIR TIME IN.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING OVER ABOUT THE LAST TWO YEARS IN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THE DETAIL, HELPING WITH THE DRAFTING OF THE, UH, THE TEXTS AND THE REPORT.
AND THEN, UH, ONLINE NOW THE, UH, REPORT IS AVAILABLE IN DRAFT FORM AND WE'RE ACTIVELY SOLICITING COMMENTS.
SO OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, THERE'LL BE A TIME TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. THERE'LL BE MORE PLACES WHERE WE CAN, UH, SHOW THE DRAFT PLAN.
AND THEN AS TIME GOES ON, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH, UH, PRESENTATIONS WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THEN DISTILLING DOWN SOME OF THE SPECIFIC REQUESTS THAT WE WILL HAVE, UH, FOR ACTIONS BY COUNCIL.
SO, UH, GET BUCKLE YOUR SEAT BELTS.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING IN UPDATING THE PLAN.
SO, UH, I SEE THAT THERE'S STILL MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
SO THIS IS THE TIME OF THE MEETING WHERE PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT, WE ASKED PEOPLE WHO HAVE STUCK IT OUT ALL THE WAY TO THE END TO SAY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE,
SO, UH, REAL ESTATE EUREKA GROUP, UH, HAS, HAS ASKED YOU TO COME AND SEE HOW WE OPERATE, SO, WELL, GOOD.
WELL, MYSELF,
THIS IS, THIS ISN'T TOO DIFFICULT.
UM, AND, AND IF WE'D KNOWN YOU WERE HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE WOULD'VE BEHAVED OURSELVES.
SO YOU MAY HAVE, UH, UM, STAYED LONGER PREVIOUSLY, BUT NOT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
WELL, WELCOME AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, COMING.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF COMMISSIONERS, UH, MAYBE INFORMALLY, A FEW OF US MIGHT BE HERE JUST TO SAY HI.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADJOURN.
AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE HAVE A QUORUM VOTE THAT SAYS WE CAN ADJOURN.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH.