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[CALL TO ORDER]

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ALL RIGHT.

WELCOME EVERYONE.

UH, LET ME CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION, THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MARCH 6TH, AND IT IS ABOUT 6:04 PM I AM BEN HEIM SETH CHAIR, AND WE WILL REVIEW THE AGENDA.

UH, AFTER WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS, WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR, UH, CONSENT ITEMS, THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR POSTPONEMENT ITEMS, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE UP THE DISCUSSION CASES.

BUT LET ME FIRST, UH, ASK OUR STAFF, UH, SAM, WOULD YOU CALL ROLE? ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BEN HEIM, PRESENT, COMMISSIONER WHIT FEATHERSTON PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER KEVIN COOK, PRESENT COMMISSIONER CARL LAROCHE.

PRESENT, COMMISSIONER TREY MCWHORTER.

PRESENT, COMMISSIONER HARMONY GROGAN PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER HEAY ALVAREZ IS ABSENT TODAY.

COMMISSIONER ROXANNE EVANS, RESIDENT COMMISSIONER RAYMOND CASTILLO.

WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT LATE TODAY.

COMMISSIONER JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO IS ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER TARA DUDLEY IS ABSENT.

THANK YOU.

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION? THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIC TO, UH, ANY AGENDA ITEM, BUT ARE MORE GENERAL IN NATURE.

WE DO HAVE SOME GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS TODAY.

FIRST OFF, WE HAVE SAMANTHA SMOOT.

OKAY.

UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I KNOW, UH, WHIT, YOU HAD, UH, JUST ONE OTHER THING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE.

YEAH, I, I WAS GONNA TACK ALONG AT THE END, BUT I'LL DO IT NOW.

I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PASSING OF ANTON BRADOCK, WHO'S THE ARCHITECT WHO DESIGNED THIS BUILDING WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

IT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, AND I'M NOT, I DON'T GET TO SPEND 40 HOURS A WEEK HERE AS SOME DO, AND MAYBE THEY HAVE A HARSHER CRITICISM OF HIS EFFORTS.

BUT I, FOR ONE, UH, ENJOY COMING HERE EVERY MONTH, AND I APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS VERY MUCH SO.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.

YEAH, WE ABSOLUTELY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR MARKING THAT PASSING.

AND CERTAINLY WE LIVE, WE LIVE WITH THE, UH, GOOD EFFECTS OF THAT CREATIVITY AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO CALL IT? CITY HALL.

ALRIGHT.

UH, SO THE FIRST SPEAKER, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND EVERY TIME YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE READ YOUR NAME INTO THE RECORD.

HI, MY NAME IS SAMANTHA SMOOT.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING A GROUP OF 17 TRAVIS HEIGHTS NEIGHBORS, AND WE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT OF A HISTORIC PROPERTY THAT THIS COMMISSION A YEAR AGO DENIED A DEMOLITION, UH, PERMIT FOR.

UH, THIS IS 4 0 9 EAST MONROE.

IT'S A HISTORIC COMMANDING TWO STORY HOUSE ON A BUSY INTERSECTION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST AND COMMUNITY INTEREST, UH, IN THIS HOME.

AND OF COURSE, IT'S A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, TWO OR THREE, A NEW OWNER PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM THE ELDERLY COUPLE THAT LIVES ACROSS THE STREET AND TOLD THEM HE INTENDED TO PRESERVE IT.

INSTEAD, HE, UH, ATTEMPTED TO DEMOLISH IT.

HE HIRED A DEMO COMPANY AND LITERALLY NEIGHBORS INTERVENED AS THE BULLDOZERS WERE APPROACHING THE HOUSE.

AND SO, UM, HE THEN FOLLOWED THE PROCESS AND CAME TO THIS COMMISSION TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR HIS DEMOLITION.

UM, THIS WAS IN YOUR JANUARY MEETING LAST YEAR.

YOU DENIED THE DEMOLITION REQUEST AND INSTRUCTED THE OWNER TO COME BACK WITH A PLAN TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF THE ORIGINAL MAIN HOME.

AND AT THE MARCH MEETING, THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

THERE WAS A PLAN TO PRESERVE THE SHELL OF THE STRUCTURE DEMO DEMOLISH THE GARAGE APARTMENT.

YOU APPROVE THAT PLAN.

UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE THEN, THE HOME HAS BEEN LARGELY UNSECURED AND UNINTENDED.

THE OWNER HAS STOPPED RESPONDING TO COMMUNICATIONS FROM NEIGHBORS AND EVEN FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.

CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUED A SERIES OF CITATIONS, UH, LAST FALL, SOME OF WHICH WERE COMPLIED WITH.

UM, BUT NONETHELESS, THE HOUSE IS NOT FULLY SECURED.

UH, AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT WHAT WE'RE WATCHING IS DEMOLITION, UH, THROUGH NEGLECT.

AND FURTHER, WE'RE NOW, UH, ALARMED THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS MAY ACTUALLY BE WORKING AGAINST US, UH, BECAUSE THE INSPECTOR, THE SECOND INSPECTOR ASSIGNED TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE HAS INDICATED THAT WE ARE PAST THE POINT OF RECOMMENDING PRESERVATION, UH, FOR WHEN HE BRINGS THIS TO THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION,

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UM, WHICH COULD HAPPEN AS SOON AS MAY.

SO, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A CITY DEPARTMENT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT PLANNING TO RECOMMEND DEMOLITION OF AN HISTORIC STRUCTURE AFTER THIS COMMISSION HAS RULED AGAINST DEMOLISHING IT, RATHER THAN ENFORCING THE CITY'S VERY CLEAR RULES, REQUIRING DUTY TO PRESERVE AND REPAIR, AS WELL AS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITING, UH, DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.

WE, UH, ARE WRITING YOU AND HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP, UM, FIGURING OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE CITY.

WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, COMMISSIONERS AS AN ITEM FOR, UH, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

UH, THIS IS NOT POSTED FOR DISCUSSION, UH, BECAUSE IT IS, UH, A PUBLIC, UH, PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE AT LEAST SOME QUESTIONS.

IF ANY OF YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER, UM, LET ME JUST SAY IN ADDRESSING YOUR CONCERN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

THANK YOU.

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND WE DO IS, UH, BECAUSE THIS WAS AN ISSUE, UH, IN A PRIOR PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WERE NOT IN SYNC WITH WHAT THEY WERE ASKING IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

AND IT CAUSED CONFUSION AND IMPACTED SOME PROPERTIES NEGATIVELY.

SO, UH, THIS SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE EARLY ENOUGH THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

I'LL RECOMMEND THAT WE POST THIS ON OUR NEXT AGENDA FOR AN UPDATE, UH, IN ADDITION TO POSSIBLY SOME BROADER DISCUSSION WITH THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION ABOUT THEIR PROCESS OF, UH, DEALING WITH THE, UH, DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT ISSUES.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

COULD, COULD WE EXTEND AN INVITE TO THE SOMEBODY FROM THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION? ABSOLUTELY.

NO, THAT, UH, WE'LL, I'LL, I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF ON THAT.

OKAY.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL, OR POSSIBLY CODE ENFORCEMENT.

IT HASN'T COME TO BUILDING AND STANDARD YET.

IT WOULD NOT RIGHT.

UNTIL MAY AT THE EARLIEST WE, WE YEAH.

THE INSPECTOR SAYS THANK YOU.

WE UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

BUT THE LANGUAGE THEY USE AND THE WAY THEY APPROACH IT, YEAH.

IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN IN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT ARE NEEDED FOR PRESERVATION.

UM, CALLEN, YOU HAVE SOME, UH, SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THIS? YES, I DID JUST WANNA GIVE A QUICK UPDATE.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UM, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, LEGAL COUNSEL ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN VSC AND THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.

UM, THEY'RE AWARE THAT, UM, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT IS, UH, POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.

UM, SO WE ARE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF WORKING THROUGH A PROCESS WITH THEM, UM, TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT, UM, HOW THAT WILL WORK, UM, AND IF IT WILL LOOK ANY DIFFERENT THAN OUR NORMAL PROCESS.

UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE AWARE OF AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, AS SOON AS I HEARD ABOUT, I WAS, UM, PRETTY CONCERNED WITH.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT, WE HAVE THE THING IN THE WORKS LIKE THAT, IT'S NOT A POSTED ITEM YET, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A, A MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION POSTED FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

UM, AND CAN WE MAYBE GET A MOTION FOR THAT? OH, OKAY.

WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, WE'LL HAVE A, A NOW DO WE NEED A MOTION OR DO WE JUST NEED TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS REQUEST IT? OKAY.

WELL, I'LL BE ONE OF THEM.

DO WE HAVE, OKAY, I'LL SECOND, SECOND REQUEST.

THERE YOU GO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL, .

OKAY.

AGAIN, THANK THE PUBLIC FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS UP TO OUR ATTENTION.

AND, UH, UH, MS. SMOOT, YOUR COMMENTS WERE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER POSTED FOR DISCUSSION? YES.

WE HAVE ROBIN SANDERS, WHO IS ONLINE.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE SHE'S ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT 4 0 9 IN WEST MONROE.

ALRIGHT.

SANDERS.

HELLO.

OH, MS. SANDERS.

EXCUSE ME.

GO AHEAD.

YES, YES.

UM, MY NAME IS ROBIN SANDERS.

I AM, UH, HERE, UH, REQUESTED TO SPEAK ALSO ON THE 4 0 9 MONROE ISSUE.

UH, IT'S, I JUST WANTED TO SECOND WHAT SAMANTHA SMOOCH HOLDS YOU.

I AM A NEIGHBOR ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

SHE'S ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AND ESPECIALLY THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN VERY CONCERNED.

UH, IT'S, IT'S SAD AS THE RAIN ALLOWED TO GET, THE WINDOWS ARE OPEN, THE RAIN IS ALLOWED TO GET IN.

IT SEEMS LIKE A A, IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG YEAR OF WATCHING THIS, UH, PLACE THAT IS REALLY QUITE BELOVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DETERIORATES.

SO, BASED ON WHAT I'VE ALREADY HEARD YOU SAY, I WILL JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER AND, UM, ASK YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT AN EXPEDITED SITUATION IT IS AS, AS RAIN CONTINUES TO ENTER

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THE PREMISES.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YOU BET.

THANK YOU.

WE DO NOT.

WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

ALRIGHT.

AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.

I'M NOW GOING TO REVIEW

[Consent Agenda]

THE AGENDA AND I'LL INDICATE THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS.

UH, IF THERE ARE ANY THAT ARE POSTED OR RECOMMENDED FOR CONSENT THAT YOU AND THE AUDIENCE OR COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY PULL FOR A DISCUSSION, THEN PLEASE GET MY ATTENTION AND WE'LL NOTE IT ACCORDINGLY.

UH, BUT FIRST ITEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH IS THE, UH, MINUTES FROM OUR FEBRUARY 7TH MEETING.

THOSE ARE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE, UH, HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATION REQUEST, UH, AT 1206 EAST 13TH STREET AND 1209 BOB HARRISON.

UH, THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP, UH, THAT IS POSTED AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THE NEXT ITEMS ARE HISTORIC, LANDMARK AND LOCAL DISTRICT APPLICATIONS.

THESE, UH, REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

ITEM NUMBER THREE AT 25 0 6 GIBBONS AVENUE IS, UH, POSTED IN, IN THE ROGERS, WASHINGTON HOLY CROSS LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 4 8 0 4 WALLER STREET, AND THE ROBERTSON STEWART AND MAYOR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UH, THERE'S AN ADDITION AND REMODEL THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 5 42 0 4 AVENUE H IN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THERE'S A PROPOSED REHABILITATE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER 6 4 0 2 WEST 12TH STREET, THE AO WATSON HOUSE.

UH, A PROPOSED EDITION AND REMODEL IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 7 44 11 AVENUE B IN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS AN ADDITION AND REMODEL THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 8 32, UH, 300, UH, 320 CONGRESS AVENUE.

THE COUPLE BUILDING, UH, PROPOSAL FOR REPAINTING THE BUILDING AND REPLACING THE AWNING.

STAFF IN THIS CASE IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PAINT ONLY FOR THE PREVIOUSLY PAINTED SERVICES SURFACES, AND NOT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NEVER HISTORICALLY BEEN PAINTED.

THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THEN WOULD BE, UH, APPROVED UPON THE CONSENT, AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THE NEXT ITEMS ARE IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, AND THESE ARE PERMIT APPLICATIONS.

AND AN ITEM NUMBER NINE IS 6 0 3 RED RIVER STREET.

THIS IS IN THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT REMODEL, REPAINT, AND REPAIR OF BUILDINGS.

THIS WAS POSTPONED FROM OUR FEBRUARY 7TH MEETING, AND THIS IS NOW OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEMS NUMBER 10, 10 10 HARWOOD PLACE AND 11 4 0 2 LOCK LOCKHART DRIVE ARE BOTH ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN ON OUR AGENDA, BUT ARE TIMED OUT AND NO ACTION IS REQUIRED.

UH, CALLEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THAT? UH, YES.

I BELIEVE THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED.

BEG YOUR PARDON? THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

WH WHICH ITEM WAS THIS? 10 10 HARWOOD PLACE AND 4 0 2 LOCKHART DRIVE, HARWOOD PLACE AND LOCKHART DRIVE? THAT'S CORRECT.

NO ACTION REQUIRED.

APPLICATION TIMED OUT.

YES.

BUT WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS WHO WOULD WISHED WHO WISH.

OH, WE HAVE SPEAKERS WHO STILL WISH WOULD, OKAY, SO WE WILL, WE CANNOT TAKE ANY ACTION, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT IT IS A POSTED ITEM, SO WE WILL HEAR A DISCUSSION.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 10 AND 11.

ALRIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 12 14 0 9 ALTA VISTA AVENUE IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IN ADDITION, IN A REMODEL, THIS IS A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT.

ITEM NUMBER 13 17 0 9 WEATHERSFIELD ROAD, THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, THIS IS AN ADDITION REMODEL.

IT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 14, 600 EAST SIXTH STREET AND THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, PROPOSAL TO REHABILITATE THE BUILDING, ADD AWNINGS, AND ADD AND REPLACE WINDOWS.

AGAIN, THIS IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 15, 7 0 9 EAST SIXTH STREET, AND THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT PROPOSAL IS TO RENOVATE BUILDINGS, ADD AN AWNING, AND REPAINT AND REPOINT BRICK THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 16 7 13 EAST SIXTH STREET IN THE SIXTH STREET NATIONAL REGISTER, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO REPAIR AND REPAINT BUILDING AND REPLACE STOREFRONT.

THIS IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 17, 2 0 7 EAST MELTON STREET IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS A, UH, PROPOSED EDITION AND REMODEL THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 18 16 0 6 TRAVIS HEIGHTS

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BOULEVARD.

UH, THIS IS POSTED WITH NO ACTION REQUIRED.

IT HAS BEEN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.

ITEM NUMBER, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION PERMIT, UH, REQUESTS.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 19 AT 28 0 2 PIERCE ROAD.

THIS WAS POSTPONED FROM OUR FEBRUARY 7TH MEETING.

AND THIS IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER 20 25 0 3 BRIDAL PATH.

UH, THIS IS A DEMOLITION REQUEST AND IS POSTED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 21 46 0 1 CHI CHIRO TRAIL.

UH, THIS IS IN, UH, PARTIAL DEMOLITION REQUEST.

UH, IT IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 22 5 0 3 WALSH STREET.

UH, DEMOLITION REQUEST.

TOTAL DEMOLITION, UH, THAT IS POSTED FOR CONSENT NUMBER 23 5 0 5 WALL STREET.

UH, THIS IS PART OF A PACKAGE, UH, ALSO A DEMOLITION REQUEST.

THIS IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 24 5 0 7 WALL STREET, OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND FINALLY, THE, UH, 1135 AND 1143 WEST SIXTH STREET.

UH, THERE'S A DEMOLITION REQUEST THAT IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THE NEXT ITEMS, UH, HAVE TO DO WITH OUR A VALOREM, UH, TAX RELIEF PROGRAM.

AND THE ITEM NUMBER 26 IS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE LIST OF, UH, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, DEEMED, UH, PASSING.

UH, SOME ON THE LIST HAVE NOT, NOT PASSED, BUT THIS IS APPROVING OUR, UH, TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT, UH, BECAUSE THIS HAPPENS SO OFTEN WHERE WE JUST PASS THIS ON CONSENT.

BUT I DO WANNA REMIND MEMBERS, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, THAT IF YOU PULL UP THE LIST ON OUR BACKUP, THEY'RE WELL OVER 620, 630 PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN INSPECTED AND MET OUR STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

NOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE NONPROFITS, SOME OF THEM ARE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, AND SOME OF THEM ARE CHURCHES.

BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE OWNED BY PRIVATE CITIZENS OR PRIVATE ENTITIES.

AND OUR ABATEMENT PROGRAM IS LEVERAGING MANY, MANY TIMES THE DOLLARS THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE ENTITIES ARE SPENDING TO KEEP HISTORIC BUILDINGS UP TO OUR STANDARDS.

UH, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE PROGRAM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BUILD ON, AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT WAYS OF MAKING BETTER.

BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND JUST HOW EFFECTIVE THIS HAS BEEN AS A PUBLIC PART, UH, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

UH, WE JUST DON'T GET A CHANCE TO JUMP UP AND DOWN AND TALK ABOUT IT ENOUGH.

SO, UH, IT'S ON CONSENT, BUT I DID WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF, UH, EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE JUST TO PROMOTE THE PROGRAM AND, AND JUST, UH, REMIND EVERYONE, FIRST OFF ITS EFFECTIVENESS, BUT THEN ALSO THANK THOSE HUNDREDS OF PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO, UH, GO THAT EXTRA MILE TO MAKE SURE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.

THERE ARE ABOUT A DOZEN SCOFF LAWS, YOU KNOW, AND EVERY YEAR WE KIND OF HAVE A LEVERAGE AND WE CAN GO BACK ONE OR TWO MORE TIMES, AND YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF MORE OF THESE WILL COME UP IN THE NEXT MONTH AS THEY, UH, GET NOTICES AND THEN THEY REALIZE THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS THEY NEED TO FIX UP.

UH, AS A FORMER OWNER OF A HISTORIC PROPERTY MYSELF, UH, I CAN REMEMBER BEING, UH, RIGHT AROUND THIS TIME, VERY MINDFUL OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE GONNA PASS INSPECTION.

SO, UH, AGAIN, IT'S A IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND IT'S GOING TO BE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 27, WE'LL BE VOTING ON THE, UH, CERTIFICATION FOR, UH, ABATEMENT APPLICATION, A PARTIAL TAX ABATEMENT APPLICATION AT 2 0 1 MAPLE STREET.

THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS MAKING USE OF, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR LESS, UH, KNOWN, BUT, BUT HOPEFULLY ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'LL MAKE MORE USE OF.

AND SO THAT'S ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

UH, THE OTHER ITEMS ARE REPORTS AND DISCUSSION ITEMS FROM COMMITTEES.

AND SO, UH, WITH THAT I WILL, UM, GO AHEAD AND, AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND I'LL REVIEW IT ONE LAST TIME BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE.

MOVE TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED.

OKAY.

UM, THAT IS, UH, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER COOK AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER QUARTER.

AND JUST TO REVIEW, THAT WILL BE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE MINUTES.

UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, UH, AT 25 0 6 GIBBONS AVENUE NUMBER 4 8 0 4 WALLER STREET NUMBER 6 4 0 2 WEST 12TH STREET NUMBER 7 44 11 AVENUE B NUMBER 9 6 0 3, RED RIVER

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NUMBER 13 17 0 9 WEATHERSFIELD ROAD NUMBER 14, 600 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 15, 7 0 9 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 16.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

NUMBER EIGHT IS ALSO ON THE CONSENTS AGENDA.

DID I MISS EIGHT? I, EXCUSE ME.

NUMBER EIGHT, 320 CONGRESS AVENUE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.

UH, I WAS RIGHT UP TO NUMBER 15, 7 0 9 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 16, 7 13 EAST SIXTH STREET, NUMBER 17, 2 0 7 EAST MILTON STREET, NUMBER 20 25 0 3 BRIDAL PATH 22 5 0 3 WALL STREET, 23 5 0 5.

WALL STREET, 24 5 0 7.

WALL STREET, 25, 11 35, AND 1143 WEST SIXTH STREET.

AND ALSO ITEM NUMBER 26, THE, UH, UH, A VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION LIST.

UH, AND THE, UH, ITEM 27, THE PARTIAL TAX ABATEMENT OF AT 2 0 0 1, UH, MAPLE STREET.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE IS THERE SEVEN? SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

AND ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE HAD YOUR ITEM ON THE CONSENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BASED ON WHAT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

AND SO ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE A DEMOLITION PERMIT, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THAT WILL ALSO REQUIRE A, UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKET FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARDS.

SO, UH, WE THANK YOU AGAIN.

NOW WE'LL TAKE UP THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.

UH, THAT IS ITEM NUMBER.

I HAD IT HERE A SECOND AGO.

ITEM NUMBER 12.

THAT'S 1409 ALTA VISTA AVENUE.

UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, THAT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN, IT'S UNANIMOUS AND THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT BRINGS US UP TO OUR FIRST ITEM

[2. C14H-2024-0011 – 1206 E 13th St./1209 Bob Harrison Fashionette Beauty Shop (Part 1 of 2)]

ON THE AGENDA.

AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

WE ARE AT, UM, 1206 EAST 13TH STREET.

THIS IS A AND, AND 1209 BOB HARRISON.

UH, THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL, UH, OWNER INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING REQUEST.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS CASE C 14 H 20 24 0 0 1 1.

THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP AND THE ELMER AND ETHEL MCDONALD JACKSON HOME AT 1206 EAST 13TH STREET AND 1209 BOB HARRISON STREET.

STAFF CAN RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM FAMILY RESIDENTS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN TO FAMILY RESIDENCE, HISTORIC LANDMARK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY ALSO RECOMMENDS THIS PROPERTY AS CONTRIBUTING TO POTENTIAL LOCAL AND NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

THE BUILDINGS AT 1206 EAST 13TH AND 1209 BOB HARRISON ARE ASSOCIATED WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUSINESSWOMAN AND COSMETOLOGIST ETH ETHEL MCDONALD JACKSON, WHO RAN A SUCCESSFUL HOME-BASED BUSINESS FROM 1944 TO 1974.

AND WHOSE FAMILY SERVED THEIR COMMUNITY AS CIVIC LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE 20TH CENTURY.

MS. BELINDA DAVIS, DAUGHTER OF ELMER AND ETHEL MCDONALD JACKSON DESCRIBES HER MOTHER'S RISE TO ENTREPRENEURSHIP AFTER SHE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AT 1206 EAST 13TH JACKSON PURCHASED THE FAMILY HOMESTEAD AS A SINGLE WOMAN FROM HER SISTER AND BROTHER-IN-LAW ON JULY 20TH, 1944.

ELMER JACKSON MARRIED ETHEL MCDONALD ON JUNE 26TH, 1946 AND 1206.

EAST 13TH BECAME HIS PRIMARY RESIDENCE AS WELL.

ONCE SHE PURCHASED THE 13TH STREET PROPERTY IN 1944, A SMALL ADDITION TO THE HOME WAS BUILT FOR HER OWN FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP OPEN UNTIL NINE JULY OF 1974.

THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP WAS A VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES PATRONIZED MAMA'S BUSINESS.

SHE WAS A LICENSED COSMETOLOGIST FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND REGULARLY RECEIVED NEW CLIENTS FROM REFERENCES FROM THE CLOSE KNIT ROBERTSON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

ELMER JACKSON, LIKE HIS WIFE, WAS A CIVIC LEADER AND WORKED HARD TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY AND ENRICHED HIS COMMUNITY THROUGH SERVICE.

IN SEGREGATION ERA.

AUSTIN IS A NOTARY, UH, ARY AND TAXI SERVICES WERE INVALUABLE TO AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS IN JACKSON'S.

MANY OCCUPATIONS DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTED TO HIS NEIGHBORHOOD'S RESILIENCE.

THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP IS A SIGNIFICANT REMINDER OF THAT RESILIENCE, CREATIVITY, AND THE BUSINESS ACUMEN OF AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS IN SEGREGATION ERA AUSTIN.

MS. DAVIS DESCRIBES THE IMPACT THAT HER MOTHER'S BUSINESS HAD ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

AS SUCH, OUR RESIDENCE WAS SIGNIFICANT AND UNIQUE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ONLY OUR HOME, BUT WAS ALSO MAMA'S PLACE OF BUSINESS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE ROBERTSON HILL FREEDOM COLONY

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WAS ONCE FILLED WITH MANY AFRICAN AMERICAN PIONEERS AND BUSINESSES.

ETHEL AND ELMER JACKSON WERE INFLUENTIAL MEMBERS OF THE HISTORIC EAST AUSTIN COMMUNITY.

THEY CONSISTENTLY PUT THE NEEDS OF OTHERS OVER THEIR PERSONAL NEEDS.

THE FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP WAS A HUB OF ACTIVITY FOR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, A PLACE OF REFUGE, REFUGE COUNSELING TO RECEIVE A WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT, EVEN A PLACE TO RECEIVE PRAYER.

IN ADDITION TO THE SHOP SERVING AS A NEXUS FOR THOSE IN NEED OF COSMETOLOGY SERVICES AND COMMISERATION, THE JACKSONS ALSO OPENED THEIR HOME TO THOSE IN NEED, INCLUDING THOSE WHO COULD NOT FIND ACCOMMODATIONS ELSE ELSEWHERE.

BECAUSE OF AUSTIN SEGREGATION LAWS, THEY BOTH FED THE HUNGRY, HOUSED THE HOMELESS, AND CARED FOR THE SICK RIGHTS DAVIS OF HER PARENTS.

THEY STRIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEEDS OF OTHERS WERE MET, THEY SACRIFICED TO, TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO NEEDED EDUCATION, HOUSING, FOOD, AND LOVE.

OUR NEIGHBOR'S NEW COMPASSIONATE ASSISTANCE WAS AVAILABLE AT OUR HOME, 1206 EAST 13TH STREET, ACCORDING TO THE EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.

UH, THE BUILDING AT 1206 EAST 13TH IS A CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW THAT RETAINS THE BUILT ELEMENTS THAT DEFINE IT NOT ONLY AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, BUT ALSO AS A HOME-BASED BUSINESS WITH DOUBLE ENTRANCES.

AND A SIDE ADDITION.

THE SURVEY DEFINES THE REAR BUILDING AT 1209.

BOB HARRISON STREET, HISTORICALLY USED AS EITHER A RENTAL PROPERTY OR JACKSON FAMILY RESIDENCE AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A CENTER PASSAGE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE BUILDING.

THOSE STRUCTURES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING RESTORED AFTER FIRE DAMAGE WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS ISSUED BY THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY, 2024.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? UM, THERE ISN'T A PRESENTATION, BUT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANTS ARE IN ATTENDANCE AND THEY MIGHT BE ON THE PHONE AS WELL.

OKAY.

WELL, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND LET US HEAR FROM THE APPLICANTS COME ON DOWN.

THEY DO NOT SEEM TO BE ONLINE.

I JUST SENT THEM AN EMAIL TO SEE IF THEY WANNA CALL IN TONIGHT, BUT, UH, THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY HERE.

OKAY.

SO IS, AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TONIGHT, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE FROM THE APPLICANT? DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT.

OKAY.

THAT IS UNUSUAL SINCE THIS WAS AN OWNER INITIATED REQUEST.

UM, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN INDICATION THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH US, BECAUSE IF SO, WE COULD CERTAINLY, UM, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS, AND THEN IF YOU COULD REACH THEM IN THE NEXT LITTLE WHILE, WE COULD PICK IT BACK UP AGAIN.

YEAH, MAYBE WE COULD JUST TABLE THIS FOR LATER AND SEE IF THEY WANNA CALL BACK IN.

I JUST SENT THEM AN EMAIL, UH, SO IF HE DOES NOT RESPOND TO ME WE'LL OKAY.

WELL LET US KNOW.

UH, IF IT COMES UP, UH, I'LL ENTER NAME, A MOTION TO TABLE THIS, UH, TO BE, UH, PICKED UP AT LATER IN THE MEETING IF POSSIBLE.

UH, I MOVE TO, UH, TABLE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO AND PENDING, UH, REACHING THE OWNERS.

WE WILL TAKE IT AFTER ITEM NUMBER 21 ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE MIGHT MOVE THAT AROUND IF WE, WE GET BACK FROM THEM.

YEAH.

LET'S, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY TABLE IT FOR LATER IN THE AGENDA BECAUSE OKAY.

WE MAY HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY MIGHT BE.

I RESCIND MY MOTION.

I I MOVE TO TABLE IT FOR NOW, PERIOD.

MOVE THE TABLE FOR LATER IN, LATER IN THE AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A SECOND? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.

UH, IT'S BEEN MOTION TO TABLE THIS LATER IN THE AGENDA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

IT IS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS 25 0 6 GIVENS AVENUE.

NO, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS A CONSENT ITEM NUMBER

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FIVE.

THE DISCUSSION ITEM IS 42 0 4 AVENUE H, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AND THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR REHABILITATION OF A BUILDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITION.

OKAY.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UM, IS A PROPOSAL IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT AT 42 0 4 AVENUE H.

AND THIS PROPOSAL IS TO CONSTRUCT A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION, REPLACE THE FOUNDATION AND ROOF, RESTORE FRONT WINDOWS, CONSTRUCT A NEW GARAGE, AND TO CONSTRUCT A POOL.

THE EXISTING BUILDING IS A ONE STORY CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW WITH A COVERED ENTRYWAY, HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, ONE OVER ONE WOOD WINDOWS AND TRADITIONAL CRAFTSMAN DETAILING.

THE HYDE PARK DESIGN STANDARDS ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS PROJECT MEETS SOME OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS, BUT NOT ALL.

THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE THE PUBLIC HEARING, TO INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE MARCH MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, TO DISCUSS DESIGN FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

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HELLO, MY NAME IS, UH, STEVE CROCKS.

I AM THE, UH, OWNER AND THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

UM, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION TO THIS AND TO YOUR DEDICATION TO HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

UM, ANYWAYS, I'M REALLY JUST HERE TO, UH, ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS A POSTPONEMENT TO, UH, UH, MOVE IT TO THE NEXT, UM, THE MEETING TO FOR I GUESS A CRITIQUE.

AND SO I'M BASICALLY HERE, JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSE I CAN WHILE I'M HERE.

UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT, UH, MR. K CRACKLES IS, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO, UH, THIS POSTPONEMENT THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING YOU SPEND TIME WITH OUR, UH, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE? AND IT'S IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE A MUCH MORE INFORMAL WAY OF DISCUSSING DESIGN ISSUES AND HISTORIC ISSUES WITH OWNERS AND BE ABLE TO BRING SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OR ITEMS BASED ON OUR CRITERIA, UH, THAT YOU THEN WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSIDER AND, AND, UH, AGAIN, HAVE MORE OF A BACK AND FORTH, UH, INFORMAL TYPE OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROJECT? WELL, YES, SIR.

I, I MUCH PREFER YOU GUYS TO SAY YES NOW, BUT, UH, SINCE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN, I'D BE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND, UM, AND GO OVER ANY OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT YOU RECOMMEND.

YEAH.

UH, I CAN JUST SAY PART OF, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO INTERPRET FOR STAFF, BUT, UH, MY FIRST IMPRESSION LOOKING AT THIS IS THAT I, I SEE THAT YOU HAD A NUMBER OF WAYS OF BEING SENSITIVE TO HISTORIC ELEMENTS, HOW THOSE ARE PUT INTO A VOLUME OF THIS KIND IN ADJACENT TO A BUILDING OF THIS KIND.

UH, I THINK PROBABLY WARRANTS SOME MORE CONSIDERATION AND, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER CLARIFICATIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU CAN BRING, UH, IN DISCUSSING THIS TO WITH THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OR IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, I'LL SAY SOMEWHAT ANECDOTALLY AND, AND MAKING NO PROMISES, BUT, UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, OF INSTANCES IN PREVIOUS MONTHS WHERE THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

AND THEN WHEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE AT THAT MEETING, THE OWNER TAKES THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, THEY OFTEN SHOW UP ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING.

UM, 'CAUSE STAFF IS CONFIDENT THAT THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN INCORPORATED.

MM-HMM.

.

SO AGAIN, JUST TO SAY OUT LOUD, UM, WHEN THE PROCESS GOES REALLY WELL, THAT'S HOW WE SEE IT WORK.

JUST FYI, I JUST WANNA WORK WITH EVERYBODY.

UH, THE LOCAL, UH, DRC THERE IN HYDE PARK.

I MET WITH THEM ON I THINK THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY APPROVED THE PLANS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE APPROPRIATE.

SO, UM, I ALSO, UM, CONSULTED WITH A, UH, HISTORIC ARCHITECT IN FORT WORTH WHO, UH, YOU KNOW, SPECIALIZES IN HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND PRESERVATION.

AND, UH, HE MADE SURE THAT ALL OUR PLANS WERE, UH, MAKING OUR HOUSE LOOK LIKE 1923 APPROPRIATE.

SO, UM, YEAH, ANYTHING I CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR SURE.

YEAH.

AND, AND IF THE LOCAL REVIEW, UH, COMMITTEE IN HYDE PARK HAS ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEND US OR ANY CORRESPONDENCE THAT YOU KNOW OF? UH, I THINK IF THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT, LIKE ON THE, UH, UH, GENDER ON THE WEBSITE.

I THINK THEY'VE SHOWN THERE A LETTER OF APPROVAL.

I THINK DOUBLE CHECK.

THAT'S WHAT MY WIFE TOLD ME, SO I COULD BE WRONG.

UH, AND I MAY, I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER ITEM HERE THAT MAY HAVE GAVE ME YEAH, WE, WE SEE SOME INDIVIDUAL, UH, COMMENTS, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKEN BY THE, BY THE LOCAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT'S ALSO HELPFUL.

IT'S, THAT'S NOT OKAY.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE THE VOTE OF THIS COMMISSION.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT, UM, THE, THERE'S ENOUGH QUESTIONS THAT I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WE TAKE SOME TIME TO WORK WITH YOU.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'LL, UH, INVITE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? SEEING NONE.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE SPEAKING OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, IF NOT, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE, COOK AND COMMISSIONER MCM MORDER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

I SEE ALL SEVEN PRESENT.

UH, HAVE THE HANDS RAISED.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION RECOGNIZING THAT IF IT IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE, WE'LL ALSO NEED

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TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST.

THE CITY CLERK IS HELPING US OUT THAT WAY.

COMMISSIONERS, I'LL MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONE, UH, THE CASE TO OUR APRIL MEETING AND INVITE THE ATTENDEE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? NONE.

OH, FISHER COOK.

GO AHEAD.

I THINK ANNOUNCEMENT SAID.

SAID, YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

OKAY, SO, UM, THIS ONE PASSES THE MOTION TO POSTPONE TO THE APRIL MEETING, UH, HAS PASSED.

AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE APPLICANT VISIT WITH THE, UH, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH THE STAFF ON THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 10.

ITEMS NUMBER.

WELL, I GUESS LET'S START WITH NUMBER 10.

UH, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

THESE ITEMS, UH, THOUGH THEY ARE POSTED, THEY, UH, IT IS NOTED THAT THESE ARE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE TIMED OUT.

SO, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 10.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A STAFF REPORT FOR THESE CHAIR, UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THEM.

SO I'LL JUST, UM, OPEN UP THE FLOOR.

OKAY.

AND THEN, AND I DO HAVE SOME UPDATES ON THEM AFTERWARDS, BUT I'D LIKE TO LET THEM SPEAK FIRST.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS POSTED.

UH, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO BACKUP AND THE WAY IT HAS BEEN POSTED, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN TAKE ANY ACTION IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN TAKE YOUR TESTIMONY.

SO, UH, IF THERE'S A SPEAKER HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AT THE MICROPHONE.

ARE THESE RELATED? SHOULD WE TAKE A MOTION TO TAKE 'EM TOGETHER? ARE THEY BOTH SIMILAR? UH, THE SAME CASES? ARE THEY DIFFERENT? WELL, NEVERMIND, WE'LL LEAVE USE THAT.

OKAY.

ONE AT A TIME.

ALRIGHT.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 10 AT 10 10 HARWOOD PLACE.

UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE HAD SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER.

I BELIEVE I, I SENT HER THE CALL ON INFORMATION, BUT SHE HAS NOT APPEARED ONLINE YET.

AND FOR THE NEXT ONE AS WELL, FOUR TWO LOCKHART DRIVE, CLIFTON LAD WAS ALSO HERE, BUT HE LEFT.

UM, SO I'VE INVITED HIM TO COME BACK IF HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.

UM, BUT AT THE MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE TWO CASES.

OKAY.

CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED, WE ARE TAKING THESE IN ORDER.

IT IS POSSIBLE.

I BELIEVE THAT WE, IF IF WE, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO TABLE THIS ALSO TO TAKE THEM OUT OF ORDER? OKAY.

SO WE HEAR THAT THE APPLICANT FOR NUMBER TWO IS NOW ONLINE AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, IF, UH, YOU'LL ALLOW ME, WE TABLE THIS TO LATER IN THE MOTION, SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE

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THAT WE PICK UP ITEM NUMBER TWO NOW, UH, AND PUT THAT, UH, ON OUR AGENDA.

THERE'S NO OBJECTION.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, STAFF, UH, WE NOW ARE DISCUSSING ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THIS IS 1204 EAST 13TH STREET AND 1209 BOB HARRISON.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF AND WE'VE JUST OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO, TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM? YES.

BARRY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PRESSING STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.

SURE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS BARRY MCBRIDE.

OKAY.

AND I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THESE PROPERTIES, BUT THE OWNERS MAY BE ON THE LINE AS WELL, SAM DAVIS, AS WELL AS BELINDA DAVIS.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE ON THE LINE AS WELL, BUT I AM HERE AS PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS, UH, UH, HISTORIC, UH, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

UH, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

OKAY.

WELL, SIR, YOU ARE THE FIRST SPEAKER AND YOU'RE THE ONE WE HAVE.

SO WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND INDICATE, UH, I'M SORRY, YOUR NAME AGAIN, SIR? BARRY MCBRIDE.

BARRY MCBRIDE.

OKAY.

MR. MCBRIDE, IF YOU WOULD, UH, JUST INDICATE, UH, THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION AND PERHAPS FILL IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, UH, STATUS OF THE PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE AN INTEREST IN.

OKAY.

UH, THE PHOTOGRAPHS WE HAVE SHOW A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT NOT A COMPLETED PROJECT.

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YES.

THIS PROJECT IS, UH, IN PROGRESS, UH, AND WE WILL BE COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

AND THE PROJECT IS HISTORIC AND IT DOES IN ENTAIL TWO PROPERTIES, 1206 EAST 13TH STREET, AS WELL AS 1209 BOB HARRISON STREET.

AND THEY ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER, FACING DIFFERENT STREETS, BUT ON ONE LARGE LOT.

UH, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ONE ADDRESS, UH, LEGALLY.

AND THAT ADDRESS IS 1206 EAST 13TH STREET.

BUT THERE ARE TWO HOUSES ON THAT LARGE LOT, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE 1939 WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT.

THESE PROPERTIES ARE, THESE PROPERTIES ARE BEING, UH, RENOVATED, UH, AND BROUGHT BACK TO THEIR HISTORICAL, UH, STATUS AND THEIR, WELL, KEEPING IN MIND THEIR HISTORICAL STATUS AND THEIR HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE OF THESE PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE FASHION NET BEAUTY SHOP THAT WAS PART OF 1206 EAST EAST 13TH STREET, WHICH IS THE MAIN REASON WHY THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION IS BEING ASKED FOR.

AND IT OPERATED FROM 1946 TO 1973 AT THAT SAME LOCATION.

UH, AND THE MAIN, THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY IS BEING MAINTAINED.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING VERY MUCH ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTIES OTHER THAN WE ARE ADDING A BATHROOM TO 1209 EAST, EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME, 1209 BOB EON STREET, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO HAVE IT, AND IT NEVER DID HAVE ONE, UH, THROUGHOUT ITS PRIOR EXISTENCE.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THE PROPERTIES AND THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE ARE REMAINING THE SAME.

UH, AND WE ARE PREPARING THE PROPERTY TO A DEGREE TO WHERE, UH, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR APPROXIMATELY 75 YEARS.

THE FULL EXTENT OF THE REHABILITATION, THE REHABILITATION WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WILL MAKE IT TO WHERE THESE PROPERTIES WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS.

AND THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE DAVIS FAMILY, UH, WILL OWN THESE PROPERTIES UNTIL THAT TIME AND EVEN FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE.

THERE ARE NO ATTEMPT, THERE ARE NO REASONS WHY, AND THERE ARE NO DESIRES ON THE PART OF ANYONE CONNECTED WITH THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTIES TO EVER SELL THESE PROPERTIES.

THEY WILL BE MAINTAINED AND OWNED WITHIN THE, THE, UH, OWNERSHIP ENTITY THAT OWNS THESE PROPERTIES, UH, UH, BY THE FAMILY FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS.

THAT IS THEIR PLAN.

WELL, THANK YOU.

WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

UH, LET ME ASK YOU, MR. MCBRIDE, UH, YES.

DO THE, WHAT ARE THE, THE INTENDED USES WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT? THE INTENDED USES FOR BOTH PROPERTIES IS, ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED, THEY WILL BE LEASED, PREFERABLY ON LONG-TERM LEASES TO, UH, THE INDIVIDUALS AND PROFESSIONALS WHO TYPICALLY LIKE TO LIVE IN THAT AREA, WHICH, UH, USUALLY ARE FOLKS CONNECTED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, OR THEY IN SOME WAY ARE CONNECTED WITH, UH, THE MEDICAL FACILITIES WHICH ARE NEARBY.

BECAUSE THESE PROPERTIES ARE NEAR, UH, UH, I 35 OR SOMEONE WITHIN THE SENATE OR THE STATE, UH, UH, JUDICIARY, JUDICIARY, OR GOVERNMENTAL OFFICES IN THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN AREA, WE SEE NO REASON AT ALL WHY THESE PROPERTIES WON'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE AT ALL GETTING LEASED UP.

IN FACT, WE'RE BEGINNING THAT PROCESS NOW FROM THE STANDPOINT OF GETTING THE WORD OUT IN TERMS OF THE AVAIL, THE POTENTIAL AVAILABILITY OF THESE PROPERTIES.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH PRIVATELY SEVERAL REAL ESTATE COMPANIES TO GIVE US SOME IDEA OF WHAT THESE PROPERTIES WILL LEASE FOR.

THAT PROCESS IS JUST BEGINNING NOW.

AND I ANTICIPATE, UH, GETTING TO THE MARKET SOMETIME BETWEEN JUNE AND JULY OF THIS YEAR.

THAT'S JUST HOW FAR NEAR COMPLETION WE ARE.

AND KEEP IN MIND, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, BUT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY AND THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO GO FAR AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO HELP RESERVE THESE PROPERTIES, WE WANTED TO TAKE THE NECESSARY TIME TO DO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ALL THAT IS REQUIRED AND NECESSARY, UH, TO MAKE THESE PROPERTIES NOT ONLY, UH, CONTINUE TO BE LIVABLE FOR THAT NUMBER OF YEARS INTO THE FUTURE, BUT THAT, UH, THEY APPEAR TO BE, AND THEY LOOK, UH, FROM THE OUTSIDE AS PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN WELL MAINTAINED AND THAT EVERY OUNCE OF OF WORK THAT WE COULD THINK OF WERE PUT INTO THESE PROPERTIES, TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF LONG OF LONGEVITY AND TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE HISTORICALLY OF THESE PROPERTIES.

AND WE, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UH, STAFF HAS REMINDED US, COMMISSIONERS THAT WE REVIEWED THESE PLANS PRIOR, UH, AND ISSUED, UH, THEM ALREADY, UH, UNDER THE, UM, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, UH, DUE TO THEIR PROXIMITY.

SO, BUT THEY WERE NOT AT THE TIME OF DESIGNATED LANDMARK.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST IS.

AND, UH, AGAIN, YOU'RE CLOSE, BUT NOT COMPLETELY FINISHED, BUT APPRECIATE THE STATUS UPDATE.

THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

OH, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTION OF THIS, UH, SPEAKER?

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OKAY, IF NOT, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL LISTEN TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.

IF, UH, THE DAVIS, UH, SAM OR BELINDA, ARE THEY ONLINE? THEY'RE NOT, NO.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, UH, AVAILABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE.

OH, WAS THERE ANYBODY TO SPEAK AGAINST? IT'S OBVIOUSLY NO ONE'S HERE IN FAVOR.

IS THERE ANYBODY AGAINST, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I MOVE COMMISSIONER COOK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MC MORTER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

ALL SEVEN.

UH, SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

THIS IS A, UH, APPLICANT INITIATED, UH, HISTORIC ZONING REQUEST.

I MOVED TO POSTPONE TO OUR APRIL MEETING.

OKAY.

UH, THERE'S A MOVE TO POSTPONE TO THE APRIL MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER EVANS AND, UH, MR. FEATHERSTON, GO AHEAD.

AND, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO EXPLAIN YOUR RECOMMENDATION, YOUR, YOUR MOTION.

YEAH, I, I MEAN, IS, UM, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION, UH, WE'VE, THIS IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF, UH, ENGAGEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP THAT I'VE SEEN WHEN IT COMES TO A HISTOR HISTORIC ZONING CASE.

AND, UM, NOT THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ISN'T GREAT, BUT AGAIN, IT, IT IS ON THE LIGHTER SIDE OF WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE.

I'D REALLY APPRECIATE THE, SOME REPRESENTATION FROM THE OWNERSHIP THEMSELVES TO, TO TELL US MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MY MOTION.

THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THIS CASE.

COMMISSIONER EVANS, I AGREE, IT APPEARS THE FAMILY HAS VERY DEEP ROOTS IN AUSTIN AND IS VERY COMMITTED TO THIS PROPERTY, BUT, UH, I WOULD JUST FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE HEARING FROM THEM, UH, ABOUT THEIR CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY AND THEIR POTENTIAL FUTURE USES.

OKAY.

AND I, I COULD, I COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE LOGIC, I THINK ALSO, UH, THE CONCERN I HAD WAS THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED AND SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION, UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO GET BY THE SITE, UH, IN ADVANCE OF THIS.

UH, JUST, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROGRESS OF THE WORK, BUT ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE CAN AT LEAST GET AN UPDATE ON, UH, OR REQUEST AN UPDATE ON IF, UH, WE SEE THIS AGAIN IN A MONTH.

UM, ANY, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE REQUEST? I'LL JUST NOTE THERE WAS ALSO, UH, IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, AN INVITATION THAT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE WERE, WERE THERE EITHER IN PERSON OR DIAL IN FOR INPUT.

THERE WAS A COMMENT IN STAFF RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE VINYL WINDOWS.

I THINK, UH, WITH THE DEGREE OF RECONSTRUCTION FROM THE CONDITION OF THESE PROPERTIES IS ADMIRABLE IN A SENSE OF RESTORATION AND, UH, RESTORATION WITHOUT PLOWING 'EM DOWN AND BUILDING SOMETHING NEW.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, PHOTOS OF CONGRESS AVENUE IN THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES, AND WHAT WE HAVE THERE NOW IS LANDMARKS.

YOU'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS A LOT OF RESTORATE, A LOT OF RESTORED LANDMARKS OUT THERE NOW.

SO I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A HIT ON THIS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE, TO BE ACCURATE WITH THE RESTORATION.

I DO HAVE THE ONE ISSUE WITH THE TRIPARTITE WINDOW, UH, ON THE BOB HARRISON SIDE.

UH, OTHERWISE IT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE SIDING WAS RETAINED.

THE, THE ROOF WAS A RIGHT, UM, SCALE.

UM, MASSING, ROOF LINE PROPORTIONS, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME.

THE RESTORATION OF THE, THE PORCH LIT ON THE BOB HARRISON SIDE IS GOOD.

IF I JUST HAVE HAD ONE COMMENT, UH, WOULD BE ABOUT THAT, THAT WINDOW AND WHETHER IT WA IT WAS, UH, HISTORICALLY ACCURATE, OTHERWISE, EVERYTHING I SEE LOOKS GOOD.

BUT, UH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OWNERSHIP IF, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY MAY NOT BE WILLING TO SPEAK BECAUSE THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE SPEAKING IN PUBLIC.

AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FORCE SOMEONE TO, BUT IT, IT REALLY WOULD BE NICE TO, UH, TO SEE THE ENGAGEMENT AT OUR LEVEL AS WELL AS HIGHER LEVELS OF REVIEW.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER TWO TO POSTPONE TO OUR APRIL MEETING AND REQUEST A, UH, I GUESS INFORMALLY WE COULD ADD A REQUEST TO VISIT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS A 7 0 7 0 VOTE.

SO THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, SHOULD BE AWARE, UH, THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS NEXT MONTH.

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ALRIGHT.

IN THE MEANTIME, HAS, UH, THE STATUS OF THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM 10 AND ITEM 11, HAS THAT BEEN RESOLVED? COMMISSIONER, UH, LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER LA ROCHE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

COMMISSIONER LA LAROCHE, PLEASE.

I NEED TO GET MYSELF A FLARE GUN .

UH, MY SUGGESTION RECOMMENDATION CHAIR WOULD BE THAT WE IN, IN, IN INFORM THE, THE TWO SPEAKERS THAT THEY'RE INVITED TO, UH, MAKE THEIR REMARKS AT THE NEXT MEETING UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE MOVE FORWARD.

YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 AND 11? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, THAT, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE AT THIS POINT.

UH, WE ARE, WE HAD THEM POSTED.

THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA.

UH, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A DISCUSSION.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE ABILITY TO DO THAT NEXT MONTH UNLESS THEY'RE, UNLESS THEY'RE THERE CURRENTLY.

THEY'RE BOTH HERE NOW.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, THEY'RE HERE ON RIGHT NOW, SO, UH, WE ARE BACK TO THE REGULAR ORDER, SO WE LET 'EM SPEAK.

YEAH, WE'RE BACK TO THE REGULAR ORDER.

AND SO WE CAN CALL, UH, ITEM NUMBER

[10. HR-2023-122500 – 1010 Harwood Pl. - No action required. Application timed out.]

10, OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

AND SUSAN, IF YOU WANNA PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.

OH, YOU'RE ALL GOOD.

YES.

I'M, I'M WITH COMMISSIONERS.

I WAS HAVING TROUBLE UNMUTING MYSELF, BUT I'M HERE NOW.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SUSAN ARMSTRONG FISHER AND I'M A RESIDENT OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND A MEMBER OF THE SRCC HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT CODE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE TIMED OUT UNTIL MAY OF THIS YEAR.

STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THE DEMOLITION APPLICATION WAS FILED IN APRIL OF 2023, AND THEREFORE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION 75 DAY TIMELINE GOVERNS INSTEAD OF THE 180 DAYS.

HOWEVER, AND I MAY NOT BE SAYING THAT RIGHT, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT OUR REVIEW OF THE SPRING OF 2023 AGENDAS INDICATE THE PROPERTY WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA IN APRIL, MAY, OR JUNE OF 2023.

AND IT IS REQUIRED TO BE POSTED WITHIN 60 DAYS OF THE APPLICATION AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.

IF IT WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA, THEN IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYONE OF THE INTEREST TO REVIEW AND COMMENT.

THE REASON WE HAVE THIS CONCERN, AS YOU KNOW, IS THERE'S VERY LITTLE, VERY FEW TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, AND ONE OF THE ONLY TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US IS THE POSTPONEMENT OF THE 180 DAYS, ESPECIALLY FOR A CONTRIBUTING HOME.

AND SO WE DO REQUEST THAT THE PROPER TIMELINE BE HONORED AND THIS TIMEOUT BE RECONSIDERED AND REOPENED TO THE PUBLIC.

OUR CALCULATION SHOW, IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE UNTIL AT LEAST MAY OF 2024.

UM, AND NOW, SINCE IT WAS NOT HEARD FOR THIS TIME UNTIL JUNE OF 2024.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, PERHAPS STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS? SURE.

THANK COMMISSIONER.

UM, WE HAVE CLEARED THIS ONE WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT.

UM, THEY HAVE, UM, EXPLAINED THAT THE DEMO PERMIT AND THE HISTORICAL REVIEW APPLICATION ARE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS, UH, WITH TWO SEPARATE TIMELINES.

THEREFORE, UM, THE, UM, DEMOLITION APPLICATION, UM, THE EARLIER OF THE TWO, UM, THE TIMELINE BEGAN, UM, BACK IN APRIL.

UM, SO 180 DAYS HAD ELAPSED.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO AMBER'S RECORDS ON THIS, UM, ANYMORE, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE APPLICANT POSTPONED, UM, IN ORDER TO SYNC UP THE DEMOLITION AND HR APPLICATIONS, THE HISTORIC REVIEW APPLICATION, UM, AT ONE MEETING.

UM, WHICH I BELIEVE ACCOUNTS FOR THE MISSING TIME.

UM, BUT WE'VE CLEARED THIS ONE WITH LAW.

UM, THE OTHER ONE I'M STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER FOR.

UM, SO IF I DON'T HAVE ONE BY THE END OF THIS MEETING, THEN I WILL CIRCLE BACK WITH Y'ALL, UM, EITHER ONLINE OR VIA, UM, OUR NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

UM, THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK IS IF THERE'S ALREADY SOME, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A VERY BIG SENSITIVITY TO THIS.

MM-HMM.

, AND I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, JUST IN ADDRESSING THE SPEAKER'S REQUEST, THAT THERE'S MUCH WE AS COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT CAN DO, UH, OTHER THAN ASK YOU TO REPORT ON THE FINDINGS OF THE LAW DEPARTMENT.

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, THIS IS VERY INDICATIVE OF WHAT MAY BE SOME LEVEL OF CONFUSION BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC'S PART, POSSIBLY THE OWNER'S PART, AND MAYBE EVEN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

SO, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE INTO

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AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S A LEVEL OF COORDINATION, MAYBE EVEN JUST THE TERMINOLOGY WE'RE USING CAN BE CONSISTENT AND COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY WHAT'S EXPECTED AT EACH OF THESE BENCHMARKS.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, UM, WITH THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.

THIS IS A VERY CONFUSING SECTION OF CODE WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT TIMELINES FOR A LOT OF VERY SIMILAR PROPERTY TYPES, UM, AND PROJECT TYPES.

AND, UM, IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

SO, UM, I AM ABSOLUTELY, UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS AS OPERATIONS COMMITTEE TO HOPEFULLY GET THIS, UH, SECTION CLARIFIED.

UM, AND, AND JUST BECAUSE AFTER WE'RE ALL SAID AND DONE, WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WE AT LEAST KNOW WHAT EXISTS NOW, UH, WITH THE WORK WE'RE DOING WITH THE PRESERVATION PLAN, UH, AND OTHER EQUITY BASED ELEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THAT.

UH, CERTAINLY SETTING CLEAR EXPECTATIONS AND THEN ALSO GETTING A MORE EFFECTIVE USE OF THEM, UH, WOULD BE IN ORDER AND MAY VERY WELL BECOME PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE MAKE AS WE UPDATE OUR PLAN.

DEFINITELY.

UM, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THE PRESERVATION PLAN, UM, I DEFINITELY WANNA WORK WITH THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE TOO.

UH, THAT'S WHERE IT'LL START.

I IRON EVERYTHING OUT, .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, MS. ARMSTRONG FISHER, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.

UH, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE HEARD WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THIS, UM, WITH STAFF, UH, AS A MORE OF A SYSTEMIC QUESTION, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT WE CAN DO, UM, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT.

AND NOW, BUT YOU ALSO SIGNED, YOU ALSO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON, UH, 4 0 2 LOCKHART DRIVE, THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 11.

UM, WE AREN'T REQUIRED TO TAKE ANY ACTION, SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR ITEM NUMBER 10 ANYWAY, SINCE THERE WAS NO ACTION REQUIRED.

IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

I WILL MENTION THAT MY COLLEAGUE, CLIFF LADD IS SPEAKING ON THAT.

UM, I AM NOT, BUT, UM, IF, IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY OF REVISITING WITH LEGAL, BECAUSE IF THE CODE WAS NOT PROPERLY FOLLOWED, UM, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE PROCESS.

SO, UM, IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD MAKE THAT REQUEST.

UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, UM, IF THAT NEEDS MORE RESOLUTION, YOUR CORRESPONDENCE WITH STAFF AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY WOULD BE CERTAINLY BE AN ORDER AND WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT CAME OUT.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, AND SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 10? OKAY.

HEARING NONE IS, THERE'S NO NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

SO WE STRICTLY GO

[11. HR-2024-001087 – 402 Lockhart Dr. No action required. Application timed out.]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER 11.

WE HAVE A REQUEST TO HAVE A SPEAKER.

UH, AND SO THEREFORE WE CAN OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR 4 0 2 LOCKHART DRIVE.

AND IS THAT SPEAKER AVAILABLE? WE HAVE CLIFF LAD ONLINE.

IF YOU WANNA PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME'S CLIFTON LADD, AND, UH, I'M A RESIDENT IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND MEMBER OF THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.

I HAVE, UH, SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THIS APPLICATION AND, UM, STATED, UM, OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPLICATION, BUT NOW WITH IT BEING POSTED AS IT HAS, I REALLY HAVE TO SAY, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK UP AND SAY THAT I THINK THAT'S AN ERROR.

AS PREVIOUS SPEAKER SAID, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING THIS HAS NOT BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR THE REQUISITE 180 DAYS.

THE FIRST TIME IT WAS POSTED ON THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION AGENDA WAS IN DECEMBER.

UM, THAT BEING THE CASE, I I THINK THAT IT, IT'S AN, AN ERROR TO CONTINUE AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS IT IS NOW.

SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY.

I DID HEAR SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO REPEAT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, TO RAISE MY OBJECTION, UH, TO IT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THANK YOU.

AND MR. LAD, THANK YOU.

AND WE WANT TO ALSO THANK YOU FOR ALERTING US.

IF THERE IS CONFUSION OR MISUNDERSTANDING, OR SOMEBODY'S GOT IT WRONG, UH, CERTAINLY IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

RECOGNIZE, HOWEVER, THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION, NOR WERE WE POSTED.

THIS IS STRICTLY TELLING US THAT AN APPLICATION HAS TIMED OUT.

AND THE MECHANISM AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, IS THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEN INDEPENDENT OF ANYTHING WE'VE DONE, STAFF THEN GOES THROUGH A PROCESS OF RELEASING THESE REQUESTS.

SO

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IT REALLY IS AN ACTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE A