Mar 11, 2024 Board of Adjustment

ITEM SIX, DISCUSSION OF THE JANUARY 8TH, 2024 BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ACTIVITY REPORT.

ONE SEC HERE.

AND SINCE WE'RE ALL HERE, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

WE'RE GOING TO SKIP TO THE, UH, DISCUSSION ITEMS.

[6. Discussion of the January 8, 2024, Board of Adjustment activity report.]

GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS, STAFF MEMBERS, WE LOVE YOU.

YAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL DISCUSSION.

NOPE.

WE'RE THINKING ABOUT CANCELING.

[7. Discussion regarding the relocation of Board of Adjustment meetings for June 10, 2024, and July 8, 2024, from City Hall – Council Chambers (due to renovations) to PDC-Event Center (Room 1405).]

ITEM SEVEN.

DISCUSSION REGARDING THE RELOCATION OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING FOR JUNE 10TH, 2024 AND JULY 8TH, 2024.

FROM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, DUE TO RENOVATIONS TO THE PDC, UH, I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE PDC OR MEMBERS.

THERE ARE MEETINGS THERE.

UM, I'M THINKING IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, WHAT DID WE DECIDE ON LATE, WHICH IS BETTER? JUNE OR JULY? SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THE JUNE MEETING.

UM, 'CAUSE WE REALLY CAN'T CANCEL A MEETING UNLESS THERE'S TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO JUNE AND JULY UNLESS THERE'S TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AND WE HAVE TO CANCEL THE JULY MEETING OR SOME ISSUE COMES UP.

I'M FEELING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES GOING FOR JULY 8TH, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GETTING THAT SAME REQUEST LIKE JULY 8TH, THE JULY 8TH MEETING.

WOULD THAT BE MUCH OF A CONFLICT? HOW, HOW ARE, UH, APPLICATIONS LOOKING? WELL, THAT'S TOO FAR.

DON'T SO FAR AHEAD.

LIKE, WE DON'T, I MEAN, I WON'T KNOW UNTIL JUNE.

HOW ARE Y'ALL FEELING ABOUT IT? I LIVE NEARBY, SO I'M FINE EITHER WAY.

WELL, AND FOR NOW, UH, I SAY LET'S KEEP IT AND WE'LL WING IT.

AND IF JUNE IS HORRIBLE, THEN I'LL CANCEL JULY.

BUT THOSE TWO MEETINGS WILL BE AT THE PDC BECAUSE THEY'RE GIVING US NEW CHAIRS, APPARENTLY, AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF.

SO, OKAY.

UH, ELAINE, IF YOU COULD, UH, SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO AREN'T LOGGED INTO WEBEX YET TO LET 'EM KNOW.

WE'LL BE DOING THAT.

[8. Discussion and approval of Board of Adjustment meeting date, Thursday, November 14, 2024, at Council Chambers-Room 1001, 5pm to 10:30pm (due to Monday, Nov 11, 2024, Holiday).]

SO WE'RE PROPOSING THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH.

ITEM EIGHT, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING DATE, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH, 2024, UH, IN COUNCIL CHAMBER'S ROOM 1001 5:00 PM TO 10:30 PM SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS NOVEMBER 11TH IS A HOLIDAY.

SO WE HAVE TO MOVE THE MEETING TO ANOTHER DATE BECAUSE OF THE LAW THAT PASSED LAST YEAR.

UM, IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE LOOK OVER THEIR CALENDARS.

UM, ELAINE, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT? OR ARE YOU OKAY IF WE WAIT TILL NEXT MONTH TO CHOOSE? OR DO WE NEED TO GET THAT BOOKED? I THINK WE HAVE TO DECIDE TONIGHT.

I MEAN, I COULD TRY TO PUSH IT BACK NEXT MONTH, BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS MAKE A MEETING TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE.

IF SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS THAT MEETING ROOM, I HAVE TO LEAVE IT OPEN IF Y'ALL DIDN'T VOTE.

SEEING NONE, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

MAKE A MOTION.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

UM, SECOND.

CAME FROM BOARD MEMBER MAGGIE ANI.

OKAY, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

UH, ANY OBJECTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

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PASSES ON CONSENT.

SO THAT WILL BE HERE AT CITY HALL ON NOVEMBER 14TH, WHICH IS A THURSDAY.

SO A LITTLE ADJUSTMENT THERE.

[9. Discussion and approval of Board of Adjustment FY25 Budget recommendations.]

ITEM NINE, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FISCAL YEAR 25, UH, 2025.

BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, THIS IS JUST, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR THE, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW, TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON THE BUDGET, UM, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.

AND THAT'S REALLY ALL IT IS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS TO DISCUSS ABOUT BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS BUDGET OR THE CITY'S BUDGET? TECHNICALLY BOTH, BUT IT SHOULD KIND OF FOCUS ON BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IF POSSIBLE.

NO COMMENT.

I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE SEND FORWARD A REQUEST FOR A BUDGET FOR THIRD PARTY COUNSEL BECAUSE WE'VE RUN INTO IT A COUPLE OF TIMES HERE WHERE THE ATTORNEY HAS TO LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AS A CLIENT.

AND THAT INCLUDES OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR LEGAL ITSELF.

AND BECAUSE WE'RE A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD, I FEEL SOMETIMES THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

NOT, NOT SAYING ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED BAD BECAUSE OF IT.

IT WOULD JUST BE EASIER, I THINK, IF WE HAD OUR OWN THIRD PARTY.

UH, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST FOR A, A, A NEW OFFICE HERE AT CITY HALL, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR LAND USE.

UH, THAT WOULD BE STAFFED BY PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T DIRECTLY REPORT TO EITHER DSD OR HOUSING, OR, SORRY, PLANNING NOW, UH, THAT WOULD HANDLE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, ZAP BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, ANYTHING LAND USE, BECAUSE WE ARE, ARE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THAT WE ARE SOVEREIGN BOARDS.

QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR? UM, I JUST NEEDED TO MAKE A MAGGIE.

MAGGIE WAS NOT CALLED, UM, IN ATTENDANCE.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

LET'S PAUSE THERE.

UH, IS IS BOARD MEMBER, SHE TON THE ONLY ONE HERE.

I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BOARD MEMBER SHERSTON HAS JOINED THE S VIA WEBEX.

UH, AND I'LL, DO I NEED TO CALL THE WHOLE ROLE AGAIN, ERICA? OKAY.

SO MAGGIE, IF YOU COULD JUST SAY HERE SO WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE.

UH, THAT DOESN'T VOID HER SECOND ON THE LAST MOTION, DOES IT? ERICA LOPEZ, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

UH, IF YOU COULD ACKNOWLEDGE WHEN SHE CAME INTO THE MEETING, I THINK THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FINE.

UH, WE WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BOARD MEMBER STAN JOINED BEFORE ITEM SIX UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS. UH, AND DID, UH, MAKE A VOTE, UH, ON THE NOVEMBER 14TH DATE, OR SHE SECONDED THE MOTION.

SO GOOD TO GO THERE.

SPECIFICALLY FALL UNDER THE, THE CITY MANAGER.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT MY TWO? SO THIS WOULD BE AN OFFICE SPECIFIC TO, UH, LIKE, I GUESS LIAISONS FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION, WHATNOT.

LIAISONS, LEGAL, UH, ADMINISTRATOR OR DIANA, WHAT IS YOUR TITLE? EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATIVE BOARD.

ADMINISTRATIVE.

WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL OFFICIAL TITLE? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ASSIGNED TO THE BOARDS THAT AREN'T LIAISONS, LIKE DIANA, WHO IS AWESOME.

SHE'S THE ONE WHO GETS LIKE ALL OUR AGENDAS AND EVERYTHING DONE.

SO THEM TWO.

GOTCHA.

I'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SEE, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA, BUT I'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SEE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE REALLY THINKING ABOUT THAT.

WELL, WE CAN DISCUSS IT RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE WE STILL ONLY HAVE SEVEN .

JUST, UH, SO YOU WANT TO CREATE A POSITION OR A POSITIONS WITHIN CITY HALL WHERE AN OFFICE, SO TO SPEAK, THE POSITIONS AREN'T NECESSARILY CHANGED, JUST WHO THEY WOULD REPORT TO WOULD CHANGE.

SO THE OFFICE WOULD BE DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE LAND USE BOARD.

SO IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE.

SO THINK OF IT THIS WAY.

THE CLERK'S OFFICE DOESN'T

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THEY FALL UNDER CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE CLERK IS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL.

IT'S NOT A HIRED POSITION, IT'S AN APPOINTED POSITION, LIKE AN APPOINTED JUDGE.

SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THAT WAY THESE FOLKS COULD DEDICATE THEIR TIME JUST TO US AND THEY COULD WORK BETWEEN EACH OTHER AND BE ABLE TO GO UPSTAIRS AND LIAISE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, OR THEIR STAFF SHOULD MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR EVERYONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES THAT EASIER FOR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT OR NOT.

QUESTION FROM ME WHEN THERE, WHEN THERE'S A CHANCE.

OH, SURE.

GO AHEAD.

BOARD MEMBER, SHERIFFS COUNTY.

UM, SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WOULD DO THE VETTING HIRING NO PERSON ON ALL SIDE? NO.

MM-HMM.

NOPE.

THAT'S NOT OUR JOB.

WE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DO.

SO CITY, CITY HALL WOULD STILL DO THAT, BUT THEY WOULD JUST REPORT TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT? WELL, I MEAN TO THE LAND USE THE LAND USE, UH, YES.

COMMITTEE COMMISSIONS, BUT THEY'RE STILL HIRED BY THE CITY.

THEY STILL HAVE TO REPORT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT.

MM-HMM.

IT'S JUST WHERE THEY WOULD BE IN THE HIERARCHY OF THINGS AND IT WOULD BE ALL ACCESSIBLE RIGHT HERE IN CITY HALL.

SO, I'M SORRY, I, I MUST, I THINK I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THE CHANGE.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU ARTICULATE HOW IT WORKS NOW AND THEN HOW IT WOULD CHANGE? YES.

RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, DIANA AND, UH, ELAINE ARE BOTH AT THE PDC.

THEY FALL UNDER, UH, THE DSD, UH, ANDREW RIVERA.

YOU DON'T KNOW HIM.

HE'S THE LIAISON FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN ZAP.

HE FALLS UNDER PLANNING OR PREVIOUSLY HOUSING AND PLANNING.

AND HE'S AT, UH, WHAT'S THE BUILDING ON 11TH STREET, Y'ALL? YEAH, IT'S ON 11TH.

I FORGET IT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER BUILDING THAT HE'S THERE.

SO IT WOULD JUST GET EVERYBODY UNDER KIND OF ONE UMBRELLA FOR THE LAND USE COMMISSIONS.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE HLC FOLKS ARE.

GOTCHA.

SO IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT SORT OF LIKE SYNERGY AND COOPERATION BETWEEN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

AND THAT WAY IT WOULD ALLOW EVERYBODY TO KIND OF BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE OR COMMUNICATE EASIER BETWEEN EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RELY ON TEAMS OR MISSED EMAILS.

AND AGAIN, IT WOULD ALSO SHOW THAT WE ARE SOVEREIGN BOARDS AND KIND OF ICE OR, OR NOT SILO EVERYTHING, BUT PUT IT ALL UNDER ONE ROOF.

MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR EVERYONE.

AT LEAST THAT'S THE GOAL.

I WOULD IT, THAT'S ME AGAIN.

UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE IS RAISING THEIR HAND.

GO AHEAD.

OH, SORRY.

UM, CAN WE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HEAR FROM STAFF AS TO WHETHER THE CURRENT STRUCTURE HAS BEEN POSING A PROBLEM IN ANY WAY? WELL, YOU CAN ASK ELAINE.

UH, WE CAN'T GET A BRIEFING PER SE, I DON'T THINK ON THIS.

WELL, ELAINE, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU CARE TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? WELL, I'M CONFUSED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING OF IT.

, .

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAME UP WITH OVER THE WEEKEND.

LIKE, I, I'M, I'M NOT, SO WHERE I'M AT IS, I'M NOT TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THE IDEA, BUT I, I THINK I FIRST NEED TO HAVE A SENSE FOR WHAT THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IS.

BECAUSE I'M, I'M NOT, I GET IN THEORY THAT THERE'S MAYBE NOT AS MUCH OPERATION AS THERE COULD BE.

NO, NO.

I, I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOME EXAMPLES OF WHERE THAT'S HAPPENED.

I DON'T WANNA FIX A PROBLEM.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WELL, THAT, AND, AND I FEEL LIKE ME PERSONALLY, WHERE I'M AT, I'M GOOD WHERE I'M AT BECAUSE I HAVE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM DSD STAFF THAT I NEED.

AND THEY'RE ALL RIGHT THERE FOR ME, FOR ME TO HAVE TO MOVE AND RELOCATE ONE.

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN TURN HER MIC UP SO IT'S COMING THROUGH THE DAIS? I HEAR THE WEBEX FOLKS JUST FINE, NICE AND LOUD.

BUT HER, I'M ONLY HEARING, LIKE COMING FROM THE FRONT MONITORS, I CAN'T MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE, UH, D SPEAKERS, UH, FROM HERE.

BUT I WILL, UH, FORWARD IT ALONG TO, UM, OUR OTHER ENGINEER.

IF I HAVE QUESTIONS OR NEED, THEY'RE THERE FOR ME.

'CAUSE LIKE I CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE TOO.

YOU'RE COMING OUT OF THESE SPEAKERS, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT.

SO I THINK WHAT ELAINE IS, I'M GONNA PARAPHRASE ELAINE.

SO WHAT, WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS WHERE SHE IS, SHE HAS ALL THE RESIDENTIAL PLANNERS.

AND SO THEREFORE, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S RIGHT THERE INSPECTIONS, THE RESIDENTIAL PLANNERS, THAT THAT THEREFORE THAT IS ACTUALLY EASIER FOR HER.

THAT'S EASIER FOR YOU, IS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME.

WELL, IT'S BETTER FOR ME BECAUSE I, I HAVE ALL THEIR SUPPORT.

LIKE, THEY'RE THERE IF I NEED QUESTION,

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THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

YOU HAD ALL THE ANSWERS, ELAINE.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED SUPPOSED TO KNOW EVERYTHING.

NO, DEFINITELY NOT FOR COMMERCIAL.

I DON'T.

THAT'S FAIR.

UM, AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE WERE TO RELOCATE UNDER LIKE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SOLELY, IT WOULD BE MORE, MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET WHAT I NEED WHEN I NEED IT.

UM, 'CAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS, LIKE I HAVE ACCESS TO WATERSHED.

THEY'RE THERE.

LIKE I HAVE A GUY THAT I JUST GO TO IF I HAVE QUESTIONS.

LIKE THAT'S HOW I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET Y'ALL.

WELL, WHAT IF IT WAS A LAND USE OFFICE AT THE PD C THEN IF IT WAS A PD DC IT WOULD DEFINITELY WORK FOR ME.

MADAM CHAIR.

BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO LIKE BRING ALL THE STAFF FROM, WOW, WHAT WAS THAT? I MOVED THE MIC.

ALL THE STAFF FROM THE SOVEREIGN BOARDS UNDER LIKE ONE LITTLE UMBRELLA IS KIND OF MY GOAL.

WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION FACTOR FOR THIS, THIS DECISION? THE WHOLE THING WITH THE AGENDA IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE? THE, WHAT'S THAT? THE WHOLE THING WITH THE AGENDA IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ALL COMMUNICATE EASIER AND IT WOULD ALL, IT WOULD CHANGE WHO THEY CURRENTLY ANSWER TO, WHICH IS DIFFERENT TO PEOPLE.

IT WOULD CHANGE WHO THE CLERK ANSWERS TO OR WHO, WHO THE STAFF ANSWERS TO STAFF ANSWERS TO.

IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT COULD STILL BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT HAVING TO DEVELOP AN, A WHOLE OFFICE AND EVERYTHING LOCATED HERE.

I MEAN, IT'S, UM, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHERE ELAINE'S COMING FROM, ALL HER RESOURCES, ALL HER INFORMATION, ALL THE BACKUP, EVEN THE PLANS AND, AND WHAT SHE PUTS IN OUR PACKETS ARE RIGHT THERE AT DSCI DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I'M NOT QUITE GRASPING THE MOTIVATION FACTOR FOR, I GUESS IT'S MY, MY OLD CONSTRUCTION MENTALITY OF IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.

I KNOW WE HAVE ISSUES WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

THAT'S DEFINITELY THE, UH, UH, AN ONGOING THING THAT I ASSUME WILL PROBABLY GET BETTER OVER TIME, I HOPE.

BUT, UH, I JUST DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF CREATING A WHOLE OTHER OFFICE FOR THEM IS REALLY AS FAR AS, FOR EXAMPLE, ELAINE AND DIANA ARE CONCERNED, PUTTING THE AGENDAS TOGETHER, GETTING THE INFORMATION AND DOING, I MEAN, THEY WOULD BE RUNNING BACK AND FORTH TO, UH, THE DSC OFFICE.

IF THEY WERE GONNA CREATE AN OFFICE HERE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES HERE.

WELL, WHAT IF THAT OFFICE JUST HAPPENED TO BE A DSD THEN, OR THE PDC? SORRY.

WOULD THAT HELP? WE'D HAVE TO ASK THAT IF SHE SAID IT WOULD BE FINE.

'CAUSE IF SHE'S JUST LOOKING FOR RESOURCES, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS TO LIKE A, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THE, THE BOARD'S SOVEREIGNTY WALL AT THE SAME TIME, MAKING IT EASIER FOR STAFF TO COMMUNICATE WITH OTHER STAFF.

YEAH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE I HAVE MY SUPERVISOR, LIKE MY SUPERIORS, THEIR SUPPORT, AND THEY HELP ME GET THE ANSWERS I NEED.

I DON'T KNOW THAT BEING UNDER SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S SOLELY FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP ME GET WHAT I NEED SOMETIMES.

UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I, I'VE GOT FULL ACCESS TO UPPER MANAGEMENT AND ANY HELP OR SUPPORT THAT I NEED, LIKE, ESPECIALLY WITH COMMERCIAL, UM, PROJECTS, THAT, THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE A LOT BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH COMPATIBILITY OR COMMERCIAL.

SO WHATEVER I NEED MY SUPERVISOR'S ABLE TO GET ME OTHER SUPERVISORS AND HELP ME GET WHATEVER ANSWERS I NEED OR HELP ME, YOU KNOW, HELP THESE CUSTOMERS OUT.

WAIT, IS THAT A LIAISON? LIAISON? WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S A LIAISON LIAISON, BUT OTHER QUESTIONS NOT IGNORING Y'ALL, I PROMISE.

AND I SEE, UH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND QUICKLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER EVES HAS JOINED.

AND IS THAT BOARD MEMBER WHO? MM-HMM.

, YES.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

AND BOARD MEMBER VANETTE JUST JOINED.

AWESOME.

THAT PARTICIPANT.

THAT'S 10.

THAT'S ENOUGH TO GO INTO CASES.

SO, SO WHO IS THE BLACK CASTER? WHO IS THE SQUARE? HE IS A, UH, REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR ITEM TWO.

I CAN MOVE HIM OFF THE LIST IF THAT'LL MAKE THINGS LESS CONFUSING FOR YOU.

I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW WHO IT WAS.

I WAS, YEAH, NO, I THINK CONFUSED.

WE'RE GOOD.

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS THAT PERSON THAT PUTS US AT 10, WHICH MEANS WE CAN GO INTO THE CASES AFTER THIS.

SO I KNOW I CAN LET THE RECOMMENDATION COME FROM PCNZ.

IT'S OKAY.

I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT STRUCTURALLY THAT ACTUALLY WORKS BETTER FOR THEM.

I'M NOT SURE THAT IT DOES FOR US.

UM, THOUGH, IF, IF IT IS SET UP THAT WAY, IT PROBABLY IS A GOOD IDEA THAT WE'RE INCLUDED

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IN THAT.

HAVE TO SEE LIKE AN ORG CHART OF THAT.

THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE'S A LOT MORE.

LIKE IT'S, IT'S THE, THE HIERARCHY OF IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DECIDED BY THE CITY.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE MY WHEELHOUSE.

I I, I THINK THAT WHILE I COULD SEE POTENTIAL IN IT, I, UH, COULD ALSO SEE CONFUSION IN IT.

SO I WOULD PREFER THAT WE TACKLE THE ONE ISSUE AND, AND THAT IF, IF THE LANE USE COMMISSION OFFICE DOES COME TO FRUITION, THAT IT WOULD COME BACK FOR INPUT.

HOW ABOUT THAT? THAT WORKS FOR ME.

DOES EVERYBODY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? OKAY.

UM, IS THE, IS IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WE RECOMMEND IT, BUT THEN ALSO RECOMMEND THAT IT COMES BACK FOR INPUT? NO, IT'S JUST AT THIS TIME SHE WANTS TO WAIT.

SO WE'LL JUST WAIT ON IT.

AND IF IT DOES HAPPEN, WE'LL ASK TO BE ABLE TO DO INPUT.

IF IT COMES FROM ANOTHER, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR ZAP, THEN WE WOULD LIKELY JOIN IN THAT PARTY.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER RECOMMENDATION FROM OTHER YEAH.

WHICH I'M OKAY WITH.

WITH, UH, ITEM TWO C 15 20 24 0 0 0 4.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR OTHER BUDGET SUGGESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW THAT WE HAVE 10, LET'S GO AND JUMP BACK TO THE BEGINNING.

WE'LL START HEARING CASES.

WE'LL START

[2. C15-2024-0004 Leah Peraldo for Paige Mycoskie 3200 Stratford Hills Lane]

LEAH PER GERALDO FOR PAGE.

MIKE KY I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT.

3,200 STRAPPER HILLS LANE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

ELAINE.

HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? HI, MY NAME IS DAX CASTRO.

GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO, UH, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MS. PAIGE MAKOWSKI.

UH, I'M A CONTRACTOR HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS WITH FIVE FOUR CONTRACTORS.

UM, AND BASICALLY WE'RE PROPOSING, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

SORRY.

UH, WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, A PRIVACY FENCE THAT IT WAS ABOUT FOUR FEET TALLER THAN, UH, YOUR CUSTOMARY EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

UM, UH, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

UH, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A, UM, UH, A DIRE SITUATION OR, OR A, UM, I, I DON'T, I FORGOT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU GUYS CALL IT.

UM, BUT IT, IT IS A, UH, A PRIVACY THING.

AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE LADIES OWN A BUSINESS, UH, AT THAT PROPERTY, UH, IN WHICH, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, THEY MAKE APPAREL AND THEY DO A LOT OF PHOTO SHOOTS AND A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF DESIGNS THAT THEY DO.

AND SO THEY WERE LOOKING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVACY BETWEEN THEIR NEIGHBOR'S.

UH, THEIR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE SITS ABOUT 30 FEET ABOVE THE BUILT TENT LINE.

AND SO THEY HAVE TO DIRECT, UH, UH, VIEW INTO THEIR HOME.

UM, AND, UH, WE'RE JUST REQUESTING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MODIFY A FENCE THAT SHE WANTS TO INSTALL TO DIVIDE THE PROPERTY.

ANYTHING ELSE? UH, THAT'S IT.

HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY, SIR, PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM HERE.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

I, I, I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UH, MY NAME IS DAVID CONN.

MY NAME IS DAVID CONN.

I'M THE, UH, I, I'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN SINCE 1983.

MY WIFE AND, AND, UH, MYSELF AND, AND THE THREE KIDS LIVE IN THE HOUSE ADJACENT WHERE, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS FENCE BETWEEN US AND THE, UH, THE NEIGHBOR.

UM, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THEY WERE RUNNING A BUSINESS THERE.

IT'S NOT ZONED FOR A BUSINESS IN THAT LOCATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, WE'VE ONLY MET THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IN PERSON TWICE.

UM, WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO A 12 FOOT FENCE.

WE TRIED TO DISSUADE HIM TO DO A 12 FOOT FENCE.

WE DON'T THINK A 12 FOOT FENCE IS COMPLIANT WITH CITY RULES OR IS, IS NEEDED.

UM, THEY STILL SAID, HEY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUR CHANCES WITH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTERS.

UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THEM.

THEY SEEM LIKE NICE PEOPLE.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ISSUES.

I THINK, UH, WE'VE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP AND I'M REALLY RELUCTANT TO BE HERE SPEAKING AGAINST MY NEIGHBOR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

WE, A 12 FOOT FENCE SEEMS UNNECESSARY, SO WE TRY TO DISSUADE THEM.

UH, THERE ARE 41

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IT'S NOT A GATED NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UH, OUT OF THE 41 HOUSES, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE HOUSE THAT HAS A, UH, 12 FOOT FENCE.

THE LO THE, THE, THE, UM, DISTANCE BETWEEN THEIR HOUSE A WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING THE FENCE IS 275 FEET.

SO THEY'RE PRETTY LARGE LOTS.

AND, UH, WE JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HARDSHIP IS.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE GRANTED A VARIANCE FROM THE CITY CODE THAT'S SUPER CLEAR ON FENCES.

AND SO THEREFORE, WE ARE, WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR.

AND, AND, UH, WE'RE OPPOSING THIS REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE CITY CODE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IF WE DO.

THANKS.

FOR THE APPLICANT, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.

UH, YEAH.

SO I, I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO SELL IT AS A HARDSHIP.

UM, UH, THE, THE ONLY THING THAT THE LADIES ARE REQUESTING IT, IT IS A BUNCH OF YOUNG LADIES WHO ARE HARDWORKING LADIES WHO DO USE SOME OF THEIR PROPERTY TO DO SOME PHO PHOTO SHOOTS HERE AND THERE.

UM, THE OWNER, UM, MRS. UH, MS. MAKI, UH, OWNS A BUSINESS WHERE SHE MAKES APPAREL.

SHE'S, UH, VERY POPULAR.

UM, AND SHE JUST WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVACY.

UM, I, I'M HOPING THAT, THAT THERE COULD BE A, A SECTION OF SOME SORT THAT CAN, UH, BE A 12 FOOTER.

UM, BUT, UM, LIKE, AGAIN, UM, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVACY.

UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE GENTLEMAN NEXT DOOR.

UH, THEY NEVER STATED ANYTHING TO ME.

THEY WERE JUST WANTING TO, TO SEE IF THEY CAN HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVACY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, LET'S GO INTO QUESTIONS.

UH, , BOARD MEMBER VANOLIN, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE NEVER, AT LEAST IN THE HISTORY THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, EVER GRANTED A 12 FOOT FENCE.

GETTING A 12 FOOT FENCE, UH, OR REQUESTING A 12 FOOT FENCE IS, I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LONG STRETCH.

UH, AND EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE A HARDSHIP.

THERE'S NO HARDSHIP REALLY HERE.

UH, THE FACT THAT, UH, THE VIEW AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS NOT A HARDSHIP.

UM, UH, I JUST, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GET THERE.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NO HARDSHIP AT ALL.

AND SECOND OF ALL, UH, IT'S WHAT THEY DO HAVE HERE.

IT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE A HARDSHIP.

AND WE'VE NEVER DONE ONE.

AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO MOVE ONE.

NOW, UH, IF, UH, THEY, THERE'S NO TOPOGRAPHY IN THEIR PACKAGE, THERE'S NO VISUAL SIDE VIEW OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THEY HAVE A CHAIN LINK FENCE THERE NOW THAT THEY CAN REPLACE WITH A EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE THAT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL, YOU KNOW, UM, OR SEVEN FOOT OR SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE.

SO THEY HAVE THAT BY CODE.

AND I THINK, UH, OF COURSE THE CHAIN LINK FENCE ISN'T VERY PRIVATE JUST BY THE NATURAL WAY IT'S MADE.

SO I REALLY CAN'T, I REALLY CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.

I'M GONNA LET MELISSA TALK, BUT I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION SIMPLY BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE DOING DENIALS.

AND THEY CAN PUT IN THEIR STANDARD EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE IF THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

VICE CHAIR, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.

I, I MEAN, A 12 FOOT FENCE IS PRETTY MUCH NOTHING THAT WE HAVE EVER APPROVED.

AND HONESTLY, IF YOU DID AN ORNAMENTAL FENCE WITH PLANTING OR SOME OTHER, I MEAN, CYPRUS TREES, JUNIPER, I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF VEGETATION THAT YOU COULD PLANT THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME PRIVACY.

UM, CHERRY LAURELS.

UH, I MEAN, YOU COULD JUST SIT HERE AND NAME 'EM OFF ALL DAY LONG.

UH, THERE'S NO TOPOGRAPHY IN THE PACKET.

THERE'S NO, I MEAN, SIDE VIEW, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PICTURE THAT IT'S A GREAT DISTANCE AWAY ACTUALLY FROM THE OTHER HOUSE.

UM, SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF HARDSHIP.

SO I, I PUT OUT A MOTION FOR A DENIAL.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION DENY MADE BY VICE CHAIR HAWTHORNE? SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BOWEN.

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I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I RARELY DO THAT.

SO, UH, WHEN I DO, IT'S BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S NOT THE FINDING.

AND EVERY TIME I'VE ALWAYS CHANGED IT TO A MOTION TO APPROVE.

BUT THIS ONE TIME I WILL WITHDRAW MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

YOU CAN, BECAUSE I'M NOT THERE EITHER.

I CAN'T GET THERE ON THIS 12 FOOT FENCE.

I, I, I FEEL THE SAME WAY.

BAD FENCES MAKE BAD NEIGHBORS.

UH, MAYBE ESPECIALLY TO POSTPONEMENT IF THEY WANTED TO GO HASH IT OUT AND GO FIND LIKE AN, IF YOU WANTED TO COME UP WITH IT.

JUST, THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT, YEAH, I CAN'T FIND A HARDSHIP.

I'M, IT, THERE'S NO HARDSHIP.

I, I MEAN, IF IT'S TOPOGRAPHY, THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT SHOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

UM, I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR POSTPONEMENT.

I, I, I'M NOT FEELING IT.

WE CAN DO A RECONSIDERATION IF THEY WANT.

SO WE'LL GO WITH THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO DENY.

ALSO PRO TIP GUYS, DON'T SAY, I'M NOT REALLY SELLING THIS AS A HARDSHIP, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE BOARD IS FOR, TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR HARDSHIP.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY MADE BY VICE CHAIR HAWTHORNE.

SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER BOWEN.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.

JANELLE VAN ZAT? YES.

MICHAEL VAN OLAN? YES.

AND YOUNG JUKE? YES.

ON ITEM THREE C 15 20 24 0 0 0 7.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

YOUR MOTION HAS BEEN DENIED.

YOUR VARIANCE IS NOT GRANTED.

MOVING

[3. C15-2024-0007 Hector Avila for Joel Beder and Joe Yu 1503 Robert Weaver Avenue]

HECTOR AVILA FOR JOEL BETTER, AND JOE U 1 5 0 3 ROBERT WEAVER AVENUE.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS HECTOR AVILA, REPRESENTING THE OWNER.

UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FROM 25 FOOT SETBACK TO 14 FEET.

AND THE HARDSHIP IS THIS HAMMERHEAD THAT THEY, WHEN THEY DID THE SUBDIVISION IN 1968, THEY AFFECTED OUR LOT THE MOST.

WHERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL THAT WE PROVIDED, THE CITY PAVED, OR SOMEBODY PAVED THE FRONT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE, MY OWNER'S DRIVEWAY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT AWAY.

AND THE EDGE OF OUR GARAGE WILL BE ACTUALLY 31 FEET SET BACK FROM THE CURB OF ROBERT THE STREET.

AND, UM, THE OWNER'S A HANDICAPPED VETERAN AND HE WANTS A GARAGE.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT A, A GARAGE 'CAUSE THE HOUSE IS SET BACK THE MOST IT CAN BE.

AND, UH, THAT, AND I TOLD THE BUILDER, SHORTEN IT BY TWO FEET.

THAT WAY IT WOULDN'T BE THAT OBNOXIOUS.

BUT IF WE SHORTEN IT ANY MORE FEET, THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE A CAR AND CLOSE THE DOORS.

AND IF YOU SEE THE, THE SUBDIVISION I SUBMITTED, IT SHOWS THE HAMMER HEAD PART AND THE OBTAINED LETTERS FROM EVERYBODY IN THE DEAD END STREET EXCEPT ONE RENTER.

'CAUSE I TOLD THEM, JUST GET OWNER LETTERS IN, IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'LL BE ENCROACHING THE 25 WHEN YOU SEE THE VISUALS.

'CAUSE UH, I TOLD THE, THE BUILDER TO PUT A STAKE AND TAKE A PICTURE FROM THE CURB.

THE ISSUE OF THE GARAGE IS SITTING WAY BACK THERE.

IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ENCROACHING THE 25 FOOT SETBACK.

AND THAT'S MY, MY STORY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY, SEEING NONE, GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

[00:35:03]

BOARD MEMBER BOWEN.

UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF ROOF IS THIS GONNA BE? JUST BASICALLY FLAT ROOF ON THIS.

'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE PICTURES AND JUST TRYING TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA HOW THAT, WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN TO THAT.

'CAUSE WE NEEDED A VARIANCE.

WE DIDN'T TRY TO HIRE AN ARCHITECT.

'CAUSE ARCHITECTS RIGHT NOW ARE EXPENSIVE AND ENG STRUCTURE ENGINEERS ARE EXPENSIVE.

SO WE JUST HAD THE, THE OUTLINE OF WHERE THE GARAGE WOULD BE ON THE SIDE PLAN.

AND THEN I TOLD THEM TO SHOOT AN ARROW FROM THE EDGE OF THE GARAGE TO THE CURB AND IT'S 31 FEET.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING I HAVE.

WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WERE GONNA TRY TO TIE THAT BACK IN.

WELL, WE, WE CAN HAVE A FLAT ROOF OR WHATEVER.

THEY JUST, HE'S A HANDICAPPED VETERAN AND HE NEEDS IT FOR THE, THE WEATHER, THE ELEMENTS.

SURE.

AND WE PROVIDED THE, THE VETERAN LETTER WHERE IT SAYS THAT HE'S HANDICAPPED.

YES SIR.

VIRTUAL BOARD MEMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE 'CAUSE I'M GONNA ASK THEM TO COME BACK.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING, BUT BRING SOMETHING BACK.

SHOWING ME THE LOCATION OF THE, OF THE GARAGE AND WHAT HE PROJECTS IT TO LOOK LIKE.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, GRAB A RULER AND DECIDE.

IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THE SCALE, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEE.

WE NORMALLY DO NOT PASS VARIANCES WITHOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF RENDERING SHOWING US WHERE THE GARAGE IS GONNA BE PLACED AND WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE IN RELATION TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE THERE.

I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE MADE BY BOARD MEMBER BON OLAND.

DO I? WE'RE FINE IF YOU GUYS WANNA APPLY RULES, IT'S NOT QUESTION ANSWER IN TIME.

WE'RE TAKING A VOTE HERE.

I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO SEE WHERE THE OTHER PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE, HOW THEY SET BACK, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE SETBACK AVERAGING.

THEN YOU'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR, YOUR LOT SHAPE MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE ANY KIND OF ADDITION TO THE HOUSE THAT DOESN'T PROJECT INTO THE, TO THE FRONT SETBACK.

UM, THIS WEIRD TRAPEZOIDAL SHAPED LOT IS, IS A HARDSHIP.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AROUND IN THE HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT ADJACENT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR SETBACK IS.

IT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL FROM GOOGLE EARTH.

YEAH, GOOGLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN AND THERE'S A LOT OF TREE CANOPY WHERE THE PLACEMENT IS.

BOARD MEMBER BOWEN, WAS THAT A SECOND? OKAY.

SO AGAIN, UH, BOARD MEMBER POTI, GO AHEAD.

I MIGHT BE MISSING SOMETHING, BUT ONE OF THE PAGES IN THE APPLICATION SHOWS THE, UH, LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? SHOWS THE PLACEMENT.

IT DOESN'T EVEN SHOW HOW IT, WHAT IT'S VISUALLY GONNA LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT TIES IN.

SO MORE OF A DESIGN DRAWING, NOT A LIKE OVERHEAD CONCEPT, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DONE BY AN ARCHITECT OR ENGINEER.

JUST A LITTLE MORE VIRTUAL BOARD MEMBERS.

SO THIS IS, UH, OH, WHAT DATE DID YOU WANNA POSTPONE TO BOARD MEMBER VAN NOLAN? THIS NEXT MEETING? WHENEVER, WHENEVER HE THINKS THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE, THE INFORMATION.

I MEAN, HECTOR, UH, WHEN, WHEN DO YOU THINK HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST PROVIDE US A DRAWING WITH WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE? MAS WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT ANY KIND OF GARAGE YOU GUYS WANNA GIVE US.

WE'RE NOT , HE'S HANDICAPPED AND HE JUST NEEDS A GARAGE.

IT CAN BE A FLAT ROOF OR WHATEVER.

AND WE'RE NOT, YEAH.

WELL WE CAN'T DESIGN FROM THE DAAS, SO.

AND I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT.

I WAS CONTRACTOR, SO IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

BUT I MEAN, YEAH.

JUST WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING US JUST A, A DRAWING, HAND DRAWING? I AS THE BUILDER, IF HE CAN JUST GET A SCHEMATIC LOCATION.

YEAH, THAT'LL, THAT WOULD WORK.

SOMETHING THAT SHOWS US WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND IT MIGHT HELP ALSO.

YOU HAVE A COUPLE LETTERS THAT CAME IN OUR LATE BACKUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAD CONCERNS ON IT.

YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK IT OUT AND MAYBE GET WITH THEM AND SHOW 'EM THE RENDERING.

WELL, WE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE DEAD END STREET, THEY DIDN'T HAVE NO CONCERNS.

THAT THE PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IT WAS GONNA DO FOR THE CITY'S TEJANO HISTORIC WALKING TRAIL.

UH, BUT I, I SEE IT IN BACKUP HERE THAT THERE WAS A LETTER HERE THAT, AND ON THE STREET, IT'S, LET ME GO BACK TO IT NOW.

IT WAS ONE

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SO, UH, UH, 15 0 0 2 ROBERT WEAVER, A CARMEN AND MIKE SCHOFIELD.

1502.

UH, ROBERT WEAVER.

LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON ROB ROBERT WEAVER.

UH, AN OPPOSITION LETTER.

1502 ROBERT WEAVER.

THEY HAVE CONCERNS WITH WHETHER GARAGE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, IF IT'S GONNA ENCROACH, AND THEN NO, THE DRIVE STILL LOOKS THE SAME.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT IN ORDER TO GET YOU WHERE YOU WANNA BE, I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO.

I'LL HAVE 'EM TALK TO 'EM.

THREE.

LET'S GO.

AND CAN WE HAVE THAT ADDRESS SO WE CAN HAVE, IT'S IN THE LATE BACKUP ON THE WEBSITE.

FOUR C 15, 20 24 0 0 0 9.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS VOTE PLEASE.

I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

WE'LL SAY APRIL 9TH, WHICH IS NEXT MONTH.

30 DAYS, MADAM.

I'M SURE IT'S APRIL 8TH.

MOTION TO POSTPONE TO APRIL 8TH MADE BY BOARD MEMBER.

WE OLAND SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER BOWEN.

OKAY, WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE THAT TILL APRIL 8TH.

MOVING ON ITEM

[4. C15-2024-0009 Victoria Haase for Stephanie & David Goodman 3706 Meadowbank Drive]

VICTORIA HASI FOR STEPHANIE AND DAVID GOODMAN.

3 7 0 6 MEADOWBANK DRIVE.

GOOD EVENING.

BOARD MEMBERS VICTORIA HASI WITH GROWER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNERS.

UM, UM, BOARD MEMBERS, WE ARE HERE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE, UM, TO THE GARAGE PLACEMENT SECTION OF THE CODE FOR A FRONT ENTRY GARAGE.

THIS IS THE SUBJECT TRACTED WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY LINES AS WELL AS IT'S GOT TWO, UM, SIGNIFICANT HERITAGE TREES.

UM, MOST SPECIFICALLY, THE ONE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IS THE, THE TREE THAT WE ARE NEEDING, UH, THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE OF THAT PARTICULAR TREE, BUT ALSO, UH, THE TOPOGRAPHY IN THE BACK OF THE LOT CAUSES FOR THE BUILDABLE AREA TO BE KIND OF IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO TREES.

UM, AND IT LEAVES LESS ROOM FOR THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY TO ACCOMMODATE A SIDE ENTRY GARAGE.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THE BUILDINGS AND AS THEY RELATE TO THE, UH, TWO HERITAGE TREES.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, ALONG WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT AS WELL.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE ABOUT THIS IS THAT, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN, THE, UM, THE EXISTING CURB CUT AND DRIVEWAY APRON CAN BE UTILIZED, UM, WHICH IS A BENEFIT AND, UH, IS FAR WELL OUTSIDE, UH, WELL OUTSIDE THE, UH, CRITICAL ROOT ZONE FOR THAT TREE AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THE PROPOSED DESIGN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS, UM, IN LINE WITH THE CHARACTER OF HOUSES ON THE STREET.

THESE ARE FOUR HOUSES TO TWO PROPERTIES ON EACH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT TRACT.

THEY ALL HAVE, UH, FRONT FACING GARAGES.

AND THIS IS JUST GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT CLOSER PICTURE, A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT THOSE PROPERTIES LOOK LIKE.

THIS IS TWO PROPERTIES, UM, I GUESS NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT TRACT.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT TRACT.

IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, AND NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE RENDERING OF WHAT, UH, THE DESIGN WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THIS PARTICULAR, THE SUBJECT TRACT FOR THE LOT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS ONE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHEAST.

AND NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS THE FINAL PROPERTY, UM, IN THAT STRING OF, OF FIVE PROPERTIES ALONG THE STREET THAT ALL HAVE THE, UM, FRONT FACING GARAGES.

UM, WITH THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF US, UH, WE'D APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR SUPPORT.

ALRIGHT.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE.

LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS OR A MOTION? A MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTY DO NOT ALLOW FOR A REASONABLE USE BECAUSE THERE'S A HERITAGE STREET LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD.

REASONABLE USE THE ZONING

[00:45:01]

SETBACK WITH CRITICAL ROOT ZONE THAT EXTENDS INTO A LARGE PORTION OF THE STREET FACING YARD FRONTAGE, LEAVING LESS AREA AND SPACE FOR MANEUVERABILITY NECESSARY FOR A SIDE ENTRY GARAGE.

THE HARDSHIP FOR WHICH THE VARIANCE IS REQUESTED IS UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY IN THAT THERE ARE TWO HERITAGE TREES THAT IMPACT DEVELOPABLE AREA OF THE LOT BY DICTATING WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT MAY MAY OCCUR.

THE HARDSHIP IS NOT GENERAL TO THE AREA IN WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC SIZE AND LOCATION OF THE HERITAGE TREE ARE UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY AREA CHARACTER.

THE VARIANCE WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.

WILL NOT IMPAIR THE USE OF THE ADJACENT CONFORMING PROPERTY.

WILL NOT IMPAIR THE PURPOSE OF THE REGULATION OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH A PROPERTY IS LOCATED BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY NEARBY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE STREET FACING CARPORTS SLASH CARUS.

THAT'S IT, MADAM CHAIR.

AGAIN, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY A BOARD MEMBER, JUAN OWEN.

UH, SECONDED BY MYSELF.

MICHAEL VAN OLAN? YES.

AND YOUNG JUKI? YES.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

YOUR VARIANCE IS GRANTED.

ITEM FIVE C 15 20 24 0 0 1 0.

MOVING ON.

[5. C15-2024-0010 David Webber for Guadalupe Heights, LLC 5413 Guadalupe Street ]

DAVID WEBER FOR GUADALUPE HEIGHTS, LLC 5 4 1 3 GUADALUPE STREET.

UH, GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MARK HANTA.

I'M, UH, WITH THE ARCHITECT.

UM, WE HAD PRESENTED, UM, THIS VARIANCE, UH, BUT SINCE IT HAD EXPIRED AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY A, UM, UH, PASSING ITEM THAT WE ARE NOW ADDING TO THIS, UH, VARIANCE REQUEST.

UM, ON THE FIRST SLIDE HERE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, UM, A TYPICAL LOT OF THE SAME AREA.

UM, AND OUR PROPERTY AT 54 13 GUADALUPE ON THE RIGHT, UH, SHOWING THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF BUILDABLE AREA DUE TO THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK THAT'S BEEN APPLIED TO BOTH OF THESE, UM, LOTS.

THE ZIP ON THE LEFT AND OURS ON THE RIGHT.

UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT, UH, IF REMOVED WOULD NOT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BE RE UH, REBUILT AS ALL OF THE DARKER ORANGE AREA IS ENCROACHING IN THAT SAME COMPATIBILITY SETBACK I JUST MENTIONED.

THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, UH, WITH THE LANDSCAPING ON THE LEFT, UH, AND JUST THE DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT, SHOWCASING THAT WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE, UH, GRANTED THAT THE VARIANCE IS, UH, APPROVED, UH, FOR THE 44 SPACES.

UM, HERE'S A FURTHER, UH, ANALYSIS, UH, SHOWING THE TYPICAL LOT ON THE LEFT.

UH, OUR LOT ON THE RIGHT, UH, AND THE REQUEST ALONG THE GUADALUPE SIDE, UH, OF A, UH, VARIANCE RELIEF OF 10 FEET TO BASE ZONING, UH, TO ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THE, UH, LIMITED PROPERTY.

UM, UH, FURTHER, UM, NO, NO REQUEST ALONG THE BACKSIDE OR NEIGHBORING, UM, UH, BUILDINGS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, UH, HERE FOR REFERENCE IN A LATER SLIDE, UH, IS THE PARKING LAYOUT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO, UH, SHOWCASE BOTH TO Y'ALL AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW WE WERE PLANNING ON PARKING, UH, ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UH, SO THAT AS NOT TO IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, HOWEVER, UH, SINCE THAT PREVIOUS REQUEST, UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN LIFTED.

UH, AND SO, UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR, UM, UH, A, UM, US TO BE ALLOWED TO PARK, UM, NOT ONLY ON THE PROPERTY BUT IN THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK, WHICH IS NO LONGER, UH, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED, UH, DUE TO THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUILDING.

THEY APPLY ALSO TO THE PARKING, UM, ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, UH, IN QUESTION, UH, ALONG THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WE ARE ALREADY REQUIRED TO, UH, PROVIDE A PRIVACY FENCE, UM, TO SO AS NOT TO HAVE HEADLIGHTS SHINING INTO NEIGHBORS THAT'S BEING BUILT EITHER WAY.

UH, BUT, UH, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THAT COMPELLING SETBACK TO BE ABLE TO BUILD OUT, UH, AND PARK THE, THE, UM, THE OCCUPANTS ON THE PROPERTY AND SO AS NOT TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE SAME, UH, RELATIONSHIP DIAGRAM, THE TYPICAL LOT ON THE LEFT AND OURS ON THE RIGHT, SHOWCASING THAT THE 44 SPOTS WE WOULD NEED TO PARK THE RESIDENCES AND A TYPICAL LOT WOULD BE PROVIDED WITHOUT, WITH EASE.

WHEREAS OUT OURS WE'RE, UH, ONLY, UH, ABLE TO OCCUPY 26 SPACES ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND HERE IS

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UH, HERE ARE THE UPPER LEVELS.

UH, PART OF THE VARIANCE WE HAD PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED, UH, WERE TO, UH, ALSO ALLOW, UH, THREE STORIES IN THE SAME HEIGHT LIMITATION, UM, THAT WE HAD PROPOSED BEFORE.

UH, THE, THE FIRST 25 FEET ALONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE, UH, HAS NO, UH, BUILDING BULL AREA.

THE NEXT 25 FEET IS TWO STORIES AND 30 FEET.

AND SO PART OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS TO PUT THREE STORIES, UH, IN THE 30 FEET.

SINCE THE PARKING LEVEL DOES NOT NEED TO BE 10 FEET, WE THINK WE CAN PUT TWO RESIDENTIAL ABOVE THE, UH, PARKING.

UH, HERE, THE RED OUTLINE SHOWCASES THE BUY RIGHT ALLOWED BASED ON CO VALLEY SETBACKS, BUT WE'RE ONLY BUILDING UP TO THREE STORIES, WHICH IS WHICH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AWARE, UH, AWARE OF, UH, IN SUPPORT OF AND ALREADY USED TO A BLOCK NORTH.

NEXT SLIDE, UH, MORE, UH, DIAGRAMS FROM THE OTHER DIRECTIONS.

UH, UP IN THE RIGHT CORNER YOU CAN SEE AN EXISTING BUILDING A BLOCK NORTH.

UM, AND BELOW IT YOU'RE SHOWING THE THREE STORY BUILDING ON THE LEFT, UH, UH, THE ABOVE AND THE BELOW OF OUR EXISTING LOT.

UM, AND, UH, GOING CIRCLING BACK TO THE FIRST ITEM, A REQUEST OF THE OF RELIEF.

ALONG GUADALUPE, YOU CAN SEE THE 15 FOOT SETBACK THAT GUADALUPE IS ALREADY PLANNED, UH, TO, UM, THAT IS ALL FROM ME.

I DO HAVE A, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, TO SPEAK AS WELL.

ADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS BRIAN BEDRO AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH LOOP NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

MR, SORRY, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU.

ONE SEC.

WHAT WAS THAT? CLOCK UP BECAUSE THEY NEED TO SHARE THEIR TIME.

SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. HINSTA AND HIS OFFICE ON THIS, UH, PROJECT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE SUPPORTED THE LAST TIME THEY CAME FOR THE VARIANCE.

AND OUR SUPPORT REMAINS INTACT.

UH, WE THINK THIS IS A BETTER USE OF THE SITE.

UM, SORRY.

IS THAT IT? YEP, I GOT YOU OFF THERE.

BUT KNOW THAT YOU MIND THOUGH, MADAM CHAIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, CAN YOU FINISH YOUR STATEMENT IN LESS THAN TWO MINUTES? NO, YOU CAN'T BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GIVE EQUAL TIMES TO BOTH PARTIES.

THERE'S NO OPPOSITION.

THEN YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS.

SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION GO TOO FAR? I DON'T, DON'T GO FAR.

SEEING NONE.

LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

AND I BELIEVE VICE CHAIR HAS ONE FOR YOU.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ASK YOU TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WERE GONNA SAY.

SO THE NEIGHBORS, UM, HAVE BEEN ROUNDLY SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.

UM, I THINK THAT THE ADDED DENSITY IT GIVES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, UM, ABILITY TO HAVE UP TO THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING IN THIS, WHICH IS UNIQUE OFFERING ACROSS THE STREET IS 55 55 NORTH LAMAR, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN, IN PROCESS OF BEING REDEVELOPED INTO A MUCH LARGER HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL BE MOSTLY ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS. SO THIS IS A IMPORTANT PIECE FOR US.

IT'LL BE MORE COMPLIANT TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SIDES THAN CURRENT, THAN THE CURRENT BUILDING IS.

IT PROVIDES ALL THE PARKING THAT THE BUILDING NEEDS, WHICH IS BIG FOR US AS WELL AS WE ANTICIPATE THE ORANGE LINE BEING BUILT ADJACENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STATION GOING IN AND THE PARKING BECOMING MORE DIFFICULT.

UM, AND GENERALLY THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT MR. KTA AND HIS OFFICE HAVE SPENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING OUT DETAILS, UM, MAKES IT SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA SUPPORT.

AREA CHARACTER, THE VARIANCE WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, WILL NOT IMPAIR THE USE OF THE ADJACENT PERFORMING PROPERTY, AND WILL NOT IMPAIR THE PURPOSE OF THE REGULATIONS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED BECAUSE ALL RELIEF VARIANCE REQUESTED IS PROPOSED TO BE RESOLVED ON SITE AND PROPOSALS TO HAVE REDUCED IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WHILE STILL CONFORMING TO MANY OF THE COMPATIBILITY AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANKS FOR COMING ALL THE WAY DOWN SO I CAN SEE YOUR FACE WHILE YOU TALK.

UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I SUPPORTED THIS THE FIRST TIME.

I REALLY DON'T SEE ANY MAJOR CHANGES IN THE SECOND TIME.

IF SOMEONE HAS A MOTION TO APPROVE, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR VIRTUAL BOARD MEMBERS? HARDSHIP OR, LET'S GO BACK UP HERE.

REASONABLE USE.

THE REASON THE ZONING REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO THE PROPERTY DO NOT ALLOW REASONABLE USE BECAUSE THE BUYRIGHT BASE OWNING REQUIREMENTS ALONE PROVIDE A VAST REDUCTION TO THE BUILDABLE, BUILDABLE AND REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY HARDSHIP.

THE HARDSHIP FOR WHICH A VARIANCE IS REQUESTED IS UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY IN THAT DUE TO THE UNIQUE SHAPE OF THIS PROPERTY, THEY HAVE ESTIMATED THAT, THAT A MORE TYPICAL LOT OF THAT SIZE WOULD'VE HAD THE SITE UTILIZATION OF ABOUT 50% WITH THE BASE ZONING AND COMPATIBILITY ZONING APPLIED.

WHEREAS THIS PROPERTY HAS A, DUE TO ITS SHAPE AND LOCATION HAS HAS A, UH, IS AT A DEEP, UH, ADV STEEP DISADVANTAGE, IT HAS ABILITY OF ONLY 37%.

THE HARDSHIP IS NOT GENERAL TO THE AREA IN WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED BECAUSE AGAIN, TYPICAL PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO SF LOTS WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO YIELD REASONABLE BUILDABLE AREAS.

HOWEVER, DUE TO THE UNIQUE SHAPE OF THIS LOT, THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO SO.

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THAT'S IT.

AGAIN, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE MADE BY A BOARD MEMBER VO SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR.

VICE CHAIR HAWTHORNE.

LET'S CALL THE RULE OR CALL THE VOTE.

I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS AWAY, SO I'M GONNA ABSTAIN ON THIS ONE.

MAKE THAT IN ABSTENTION.

UH, I'M GONNA ABSTAIN SINCE I WASN'T HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, BUT Y'ALL PASSED THIS SO AT LEAST EIGHT.

AND I COMMEND YOU FOR WORKING SO WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOUNG JU KIM.

THAT'S EIGHT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

YOUR VARIANCE IS GRANTED.

MADAM CHAIR.

I BELIEVE THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING.

IT DOES.

ANNOUNCEMENTS IS INCLUDED IN OUR AGENDA.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THE TIME IS OH, OH.

MARCEL'S GOT HIS HAND OUT.

OH.

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS]

NOW I MAKE SURE THAT HAVE A PHONE NUMBER.

I'LL CALL THIS AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS SINCE WE SAW THAT CASE TIME JUST PULLED OFF.

YEAH, IT FELT LIKE YESTERDAY.

WOW.

BUT BUT YOU DON'T FORGET 'EM WHEN THEY'RE SHAPED LIKE THAT.

THE CURVE HALLWAY BE YOU SAW IT AND YOU WENT I KNOW THAT CASE .

NOW JUST IMAGINE HOW MANY OF THEM ARE UP HERE.

OH, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE 12 AND 16 YEARS.

UH, THE OTHER COMMENT OR ANNOUNCEMENT IS OUR NEXT MEETING, APRIL 8TH IS THE SOLAR ECLIPSE DAY.

OH, THAT TOO.

AND I WILL PROBABLY BE NOT AVAILABLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS JUST WANTED PUT THAT ANNOUNCEMENT OUT THERE.

I THINK I'LL BE BOOKING IN FROM LENO.

THAT'S AND MOCK.

I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM, JESSICA.

I MEAN, OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO CANCEL IT.

WELL, I I MEAN WITH ONE GO.

WE STILL HAVE NINE TO VOTE.

NO, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE MARCEL, MICHAEL AND, UM, YOUNG J KIM.

THAT'S PUTS US UNDER EIGHT THEN AND ME.

THAT'S SEVEN.

YEAH, I MEAN, SO WE JUST POST, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CANCEL THE APRIL MEETING THEN.

SO WE POSTPONED MR. AVILA'S CASE TO APRIL 8TH.

WE DID, DIDN'T WE? SO, UM, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE HIM LONGER TO GIVE.

SO, UH, LET'S, SO CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO RE I THINK WHAT WE'D HAVE TO DO HERE IS DO A MOTION TO RES RESEND RECONSIDER OUR PREVIOUS ACTION.

AND POSTPONE.

THAT WAS FOR ITEM IS THAT MAY HELP ME.

ELAINE.

IT'S ITEM THREE.

I BELIEVE IT'S MAY 13TH.

SO I DIDN'T MAKE THE MAY 13TH.

I DIDN'T MAKE THE FIRST MOTION.

SO DOES SOMEBODY WANNA TIDY THIS UP? MAY 13TH.

SO WHAT WE HAVE, WHO MADE THE ORIGINAL MOTION? OKAY.

SO MICHAEL, I THINK YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO WAIT.

DOES IT HAVE TO THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

SORRY, I QUESTION FOR LEGAL MOTION TO RECONSIDER HAS TO BE MADE BY A PARTY WHO WAS AGAINST, RIGHT.

WHAT IF NOBODY WAS AGAINST, NO ONE WAS AGAINST.

WE NEED TO CHANGE THE DATE.

'CAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE ROBERT, WE'RE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY OVER THE ECLIPSE.

UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ECLIPSE WATCHING PARTIES AND CAMPING AND, OR CAN WE JUST VOTE TO CANCEL THE MEETING AND HE'LL HAVE TO BE PUSHED AND HE'LL BE NOTIFIED THAT HE'S GOING TO BE POSTPONED TO THE NEXT ONE.

PERHAPS WE SHOULD ASK FOR ADVICE FROM LEGAL AT ERICA LOPEZ, ASSISTANT CITY

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ATTORNEY.

I THINK IF YOU RECONSIDER YOUR, UH, YOUR ACTION THAT WAS MADE.

RIGHT.

UM, TAKE JUST A VOTE ON THAT.

THERE'S UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THAT.

AND THEN JUST CHANGE THE DATE ON IT.

UH, 1503 ROBERT WEAVER AVENUE.

SO I'LL MAKE THEM, CAN I MAKE THE MOTION, SINCE WE ALL VOTED FOR IT? YEAH.

DOES IT MATTER? SO I, I MAKE A, A MOTION TO RESCIND OUR PREVIOUS ACTION ON LET'S MAKE IT TWO SEPARATE.

I THINK JUST TO BE SAFE.

RIGHT? BUT I HAVE TO HAVE THE, SO A MOTION TO RESCIND, WHICH I'LL SECOND.

SO LET'S VOTE ON THAT REAL QUICK.

C 15 DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 0 7.

AND I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND OUR PREVIOUS ACTION.

I'LL SECOND.

LET'S CONSIDER THAT RESCINDED.

SO LET'S DO THIS BY, UH, VOTE OF AFFIRMATION.

DOES ANYBODY OBJECT? OKAY.

AND THEN LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO, AND TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE CASE C 15 DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 7 15 0 3.

ROBERT ROBERT WEAVER AVENUE TO THE MAY 13TH.

13TH AGENDA.

I'LL SECOND.

UH, AND THIS ONE WE DO HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON.

SO LET'S JUST DO THIS REAL QUICK.

MICHAEL VAN OWEN? YES.

YOUNG J CHEM? YES.