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AND, UH, WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR APRIL MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER, UM, UNDER PUBLIC
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COMMUNICATIONS.UH, AND THEN ALSO LATER ON THE AGENDA ITEM WE HAVE, UH, MR. AARON LACK.
UM, AARON, IF YOU COULD PLEASE.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE AUSTIN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS, UH, WHICH IS THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.
UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I JUST HAD, UH, WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A, AN UPDATE ON, UH, UM, THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT MY UNION JUST HAD WITH THE, UH, A-M-P-T-P, WHICH, UH, STANDS FOR THE, UH, AMERICAN MOTION PICTURE AND TELEVISION PRODUCERS, I'M SORRY, THE ALLIANCE OF MOTION PICTURE AND TELEVISION PRODUCERS.
UM, AND THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT, THAT THE ACTORS AND THE WRITERS WERE ON STRIKE AGAINST LAST SUMMER.
UM, SO, UH, AUSTIN PARTICIPATED IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, UH, IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, AND GOT THE, THE VOICES OF AUSTIN MUSICIANS, UH, INTO THAT ROOM.
UM, AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS OUR, OUR LOCAL PLUS, OBVIOUSLY THE LOS ANGELES LOCAL, UH, THE NEW YORK LOCAL AND THE NASHVILLE LOCAL, BUT ALSO, UH, CHICAGO, UH, WASHINGTON DC UM, ORANGE COUNTY, UH, SAN FRANCISCO, SEVERAL OTHER LOCALS, UM, THAT HAVE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS GOING ON, UH, IN, IN THEIR JURISDICTION.
UM, WE MADE BREAKTHROUGHS IN RESIDUALS ON MADE FOR STREAMING VIDEO PRODUCTIONS AND TELEVISION FILM, UH, BECAUSE THAT TYPE OF WORK IS, IS HAPPENING HERE IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA AS WELL.
UH, SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.
UM, WE ALSO ESTABLISH CRITICAL GUARDRAILS AGAINST THE MISUSE OF AI, OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE PROCESSING THAT, UH, IS ALREADY HAPPENING, BUT THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE THAT WE, WE KNOW, IS REALLY, WE'RE JUST ON THE CUSP OF, OF SOME REALLY KIND OF SCARY THINGS, UH, THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO WITH OUR MUSICAL PERFORMANCES.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS A BIG, A BIG DEAL AS WELL.
UM, AND WE GAINED MEANINGFUL WAGE AND BENEFIT INCREASES, UH, AND OTHER IMPORTANT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE WE, WE DID IT IN CONCERT WITH OTHER UNIONS.
SO WE, WE HAD THE ACTORS UNION REPRESENTATIVES, UH, WITH US FROM SAG AFTRA, UH, THE WRITERS REPRESENTATIVES FROM WGA, UM, THE, THE STAGE HANDS, UH, THE I-A-T-S-E, UM, AND EVEN THE, THE TEAMSTERS, THE, A LOT OF TIMES THE TRUCK DRIVERS ON THOSE PRODUCTIONS WERE, WERE WITH US.
AND, UH, THAT WAS GREAT TO HAVE THEM IN THERE.
UM, IF YOU THINK MUSICIANS CURSE A LOT, THE MAN, THE TEAMSTERS REALLY CURSE A LOT, BUT IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN THE NEGOTIATIONS.
SO, UM, AND WE ALSO HAD THE, THE LOS ANGELES FEDERATION LABOR, 'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S WHERE THEY, THEY OCCURRED.
UM, THE, THE FULL DETAILS OF THE CONTRACT TERMS, UH, AREN'T, AREN'T, UH, PUBLIC YET.
UM, BUT THE BARGAINING UNIT IS VOTING ON THAT, AND THE, AND THE VOTING ENDS TODAY, ACTUALLY.
SO YOU CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THAT, UM, TODAY, AND PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE IS AT FAIR SHARE FOR MUSICIANS AT, UH, INSTAGRAM, UH, IS WHERE THAT CAMPAIGN'S BEEN, KIND OF SHARING THEIR UPDATES AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT FOR US HERE IN TEXAS, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT TYPE OF WORK HAPPENING WITH SOUNDTRACK CREATION, BUT ALSO WITH WHAT WE CALL SIDELINING, WHICH IS WHERE A MUSICIAN PERFORMS TO A TRACK AND IS, IS FILMED.
AND THAT'S ALL MY TIME, BUT COME SEE US IF YOU'RE DOING TV AND FILM WORK.
UH, MOVING ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS.
WE HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION ON LAND USE BY DONALD JACKSON, BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
DID WE LOOK AT THE MINUTES? UM, YES.
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HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.UM, IF EVERYONE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, UH, PLEASE.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE FROM THE MARCH 4TH, 2024 MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, I HAVE, UM, SECOND, SECOND, UH, OKAY.
MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM, UM, COMMISSIONER DAVILA.
MOTION IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
[2. Staff presentation on land use by Donald Jackson, Business Process Consultant, Economic Development Department.]
BRIEFINGS.UM, STAFF PRESENTATION ON LAND USE BY DONALD JACKSON, BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AND I'M GLAD TO, UH, PRESENT ON THESE ITEMS TONIGHT.
UH, THIS IS THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE AND CREATIVE SPACE REGULATORY INCENTIVES, PHASE
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TWO.UH, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO, THIS IS SPURRED BY THESE TWO PRIMARY RESOLUTIONS HERE FROM 2022, NUMBER 94 THERE, NUMBER 89.
UH, THESE INSTRUCTED US TO THESE INSTRUCTED STAFF, UH, IN DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH CRITERIA TO BE LIVE MUSIC VENUES, TO DEVELOP CLEAR, UH, CREATIVE SPACE, LAND USE DEFINITIONS, UH, AND TO DEVELOP, UH, LIVE MUSIC AND CREATIVE SPACE, UH, BONUS AND INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, REGULATORY BONUS, AND INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, UH, AND TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK FOR ARTS DISTRICTS AND CREATIVE DISTRICTS.
THIS WAS ALSO REINFORCED BY RESOLUTION, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE, UH, THE PALM DISTRICT AND THE PALM DISTRICT, UH, ENABLING ORDINANCE THAT, UH, THAT INCLUDED ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE TO, TO REINFORCE THESE RESOLUTIONS AND TO, AND TO BRING, COME BACK WITH, UM, AMENDMENTS FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES, UH, THIS SPRING INVOLVING INCENTIVES FOR CULTURAL SPACE PRESERVATION AND CREATION.
AND ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT A CULTURAL DISTRICT OVERLAY, UH, UH, PROCESS.
AND ONE IN PARTICULAR FOR RED RIVER.
AND BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL JUST, I JUST WANNA GIVE KIND OF A QUICK, BROAD, BROAD VIEW OF THIS.
UH, THESE WERE VERY LARGE RESOLUTIONS THAT HAD A LOT OF DIRECTION IN THEM.
SO FIRST, WHAT WE DID WAS SPLIT THEM IN TWO.
UH, WE HANDLED KIND OF THE DEFINITIONS AND LAND USE DESCRIPTIONS PART FIRST THAT WE HANDLED LAST YEAR.
SO THOSE OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY PASSED.
AND THAT INVOLVED THE CREATION OF NEW DEFINITIONS FOR, UM, FOR DIFFERENT CREATIVE SPACES, REVISED DEFINITIONS FOR DIFFERENT CREATIVE SPACES, AND THE, AND THE CREATION OF A, OF A NEW LAND USE CATEGORY THAT CAN BE USED BY VENUES, UH, AND, UH, MORE EASILY AND COMMERCIAL SPACES AROUND THE CITY CALLED, UH, PERFORMANCE VENUES.
SO THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN ESTABLISHED.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE KIND OF, THAT'S ONE OF KIND OF THE FOUR THINGS.
UH, THE TWO MAJOR THINGS THAT, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON IN, IN THESE ITEMS ARE THE, THE REST OF THE KIND OF REGULATORY DIRECTION FROM THESE, FROM THESE RESOLUTIONS.
ONE OF THOSE, UH, AS I SAID, IS TO DEVELOP A PROCESS, UH, FOR, UH, REGULATORY INCENTIVES TIED TO CREATIVE DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE USED IN DIFFERENT AREAS AROUND THE CITY.
UH, AND THAT INCLUDES REGULATORY INCENTIVES.
WHEN, WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN DENSITY BONUSES, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT MORE IN A MINUTE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO GUIDANCE TO SPECIFICALLY, UH, DO A, DO A REGULATORY OVERLAY FOR THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, UH, SPECIFICALLY.
AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, UH, A LITTLE BIT DISTINCTLY, UH, ON THE LATER SLIDE, BECAUSE IT IS A DIFFERENT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT, UM, SORT OF SITUATION THAN THE ZONING FRAMEWORK.
UH, AND FINALLY, UH, SOMETHING TO MENTION IS THE, THOSE RESOLUTIONS ALSO TALK, TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, THREE 80 INCENTIVES AND THINGS RELATED TO ECONOMIC INCENTIVES.
AND I JUST WANNA KIND OF CLARIFY THAT THOSE ARE GONNA BE, WE'RE HANDLING THOSE THAT DIFFERENTLY IN A DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, WILL CERTAINLY HOPE TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION ON TO GET YOUR, GET YOUR, UH, FEEDBACK ON AS WELL IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THAT'LL BE HAP HANDLED LATER THIS YEAR.
ECONOMIC INCENTIVES AND REGULATORY INCENTIVES OR INCENTIVES ARE KIND OF HANDLED UNDER DIFFERENT, UH, FRAMEWORKS AND TRACKS IN AUSTIN.
SO WE'RE DOING THE REGULATORY WITH THIS.
UH, AND I SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE QUESTIONS AND THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT MAY, WE MIGHT WANNA TIE TO DIFFERENT INCENTIVES.
UH, WHEN, IF, IF I GET ANY QUESTIONS AROUND THAT, UH, I, I MIGHT NOTE THAT SOME OF THEM MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC INCENTIVES AND FINANCIAL INCENTIVES.
THEN IN TERMS OF REGULATORY INCENTIVES WITH REGULATORY INCENTIVES, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY, KIND OF CLEAR ABOUT CERTAIN LAND USE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A, THAT'S JUST, JUST KIND OF A, A FORWARD SHOT, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE OVERVIEW AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AS WE GO FORWARD.
THIS INCLUDES SOME OF THE REGULATORY ELEMENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THOSE ORIGINAL, UH, RESOLUTIONS.
UH, THE BIG ONES WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT ARE EXPANDED FACILITATION OF AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE IN NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, AND PRIORITIZATION OF MUSIC VENUES AND CREATIVE SPACES AS COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND OVERLAYS.
UH, ALSO TALKING ABOUT, UH, SIMILAR INCREASED FLORIDA AREA RATIO OR OTHER IMPORTANT APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE RELATED TO DEDICATED SPACE, UH, AND, AND THESE, THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
UH, SO THERE'S SOME OTHER ITEMS HERE.
PARKING REQUIREMENTS USED TO BE A VERY BIG DEAL.
I, PARKING REQUIREMENTS HAVE ALL BEEN ELIMINATED IN THE CITY, SO NOT AS MUCH OF A FACTOR.
SO WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON THE AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE, BOTH IN TERMS OF PRESERVATION AND IN TERMS OF, UH, INCENTIVIZING NEW DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF THE, THE GOAL OF WHAT
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WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.WE REALLY, AND, AND I'LL GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, IN A MINUTE, UM, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO DO KIND OF A, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO IS CREATE A PROCESS THAT CAN BE A LITTLE MORE, UH, BOTTOM UP OR HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD DO IN A SHORT TIMELINE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TAKES A LONG TIME.
UH, AND, AND ALSO NEEDS A LOT OF BUY-IN FROM PROPERTY OWNERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE CREATIVE COMMUNITIES.
SO WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING NOW IS CREATING A, UH, WHAT, WHAT CAN BE REFERRED TO AS A PAPER DISTRICT.
THAT MEANS IT'S NOT GONNA BE MAPPED ANYWHERE IN PARTICULAR.
UH, AND THEN THAT, AND, AND WE, AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF KEEP TO THE, THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE AS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THAT, AND IT'LL CREATE A PROCESS, UH, AFTER WHICH OWNERS OF PROPERTIES MAY THEN SORT OF REZONE INTO THIS, WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE CREATIVE DISTRICT, COMBINING DISTRICT CODE, UH, TIMELINE FOR DIFFERENT MILESTONES.
UH, PRESENTED THIS TO THE ARTS COMMISSION ON THE 18TH, UH, PRESENTED TO THE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE ON MARCH 20TH.
AND HAPPY TO SAY, UH, EVERYONE WHO WAS AT THAT, AT THAT MEETING VOTED.
IT WAS NOT EVERYONE WAS AT THE, WAS ON THE, WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE, WAS AT THAT, UH, MEETING, BUT EVERYONE WHO WAS ON THE DAIS, UH, VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO ENDORSE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, GOOD TO HEAR TONIGHT.
UM, PRESENTING TO Y'ALL, UM, OUR COUNCIL'S SET DATE, CURRENTLY, UH, THIS IS THE DATE WHERE WE'LL BE SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FUTURE.
UH, IT'S CURRENTLY SET FOR APRIL 18TH, SO THAT COULD BE REVISED, UH, PLANNING, COMMISSION HEARING.
WE ARE ORIGINALLY GONNA GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON APRIL 23RD, BUT WE FOUND OUT AT THE LAST CODES AND ORDINANCES, UH, JOINT COMMITTEE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, Y'ALL WERE PROBABLY AWARE THERE'S A LOT OF BIG ZONING ITEMS COMING DOWN THE PIKE.
AND, UH, THEY NEEDED TO BASICALLY MOVE US BACK TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
SO, UH, INSTEAD WE'LL BE GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON MAY 28TH, AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, AND THE, THE TARGET IS TO BRING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A HEARING AND ADOPTION ON JULY 18TH.
SO, AS I WAS SAYING, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR THIS.
WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON, UM, HAVING A CREATIVE DISTRICT COMBINE.
AND, AND, AND BY THE WAY, WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE, THE DISTRICT THAT CAN BE APPLIED KIND OF CITYWIDE.
RED RIVER, AGAIN, IS IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY, IT'S INSIDE THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS AREA.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT HERE WOULDN'T WORK DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING THERE.
BUT THIS COULD BE USED IN CREATIVE DISTRICTS FOR, THAT ARE MUSIC FOCUSED OR CREATIVE ARTS FOCUSED ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANT US TO DO FOR THIS WOULD BE HAVE A FO HAVE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY STRONG ENGAGEMENT FROM, UH, CREATIVE SPACE STAKEHOLDERS.
UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'D BE SOME SORT OF PROCESS OF PRIOR COORDINATION AND ORGANIZING.
UH, WE REALLY WANT IT TO BE MORE OF A, A, A TOOL FOR FOLKS TO USE AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPOSED TOP DOWN.
AND, UH, WE WANTED THE PROCESS TO, UH, USE KIND OF NORMAL ZONING PROCESSES AND REZONING PROCESSES WITH, WITH AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK WHEN, WHEN SOMEONE OR A GROUP APPLIES FOR THIS KIND OF DESIGNATION.
UM, AND THE FOCUS, AND, AND AGAIN, THE FOCUS, THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, UH, FRAMEWORK THAT WILL, UH, PROMOTE NEW THE CREATION OF NEW CREATIVE SPACES AND VENUES, AND ALSO PRESERVE EXISTING CREATIVE SPACES AND VENUES.
SO, TO DO THIS BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE, FROM OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE PLANNING AND LEGAL DEPARTMENTS, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A, IS A, UH, A CREATIVE DISTRICT COMBINING DISTRICT THAT IS A DENSITY BONUS DISTRICT, A SPECIAL TYPE OF DENSITY BONUS DISTRICT.
AND WHEN I SAY CREATIVE SPACES, THIS COULD APPLY TO DEFINITELY PERFORMANCE VENUE.
AND, AND, AND BECAUSE THIS IS A ZONING THING, WE HAVE TO USE ZONING, LAND USE DEFINITIONS.
WE CAN'T KIND OF USE OUR KIND OF PROGRAMMATIC DEFINITIONS.
IT'S GOTTA BE STUFF THAT A, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER CAN WALK IN AND TELL EXACTLY WHAT IT'S, UM, BUT THAT'S WHY WE CREATED THAT PERFORMANCE VENUE, UH, DEFINITION LAST YEAR.
SO IT COULD BE A GOOD PERFORMANCE VENUE, UH, OR IT COULD BE A COCKTAIL LOUNGE THAT ALREADY IS EXISTING AS A LIVE MUSIC VENUE, UH, WITH, IT HASN'T GOTTEN KIND OF A REZONING, UH, OR THESE OTHER TYPES OF USES, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S FOCUSED ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARTS, THEATER, UH, WORKSHOPS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO THIS WOULD BE A CREATE, THIS WOULD BE A DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, LIKE I SAID.
AND, AND THE WAY DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS WORK IS YOU PROVIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
YOU PROVIDE SOME GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS, AND IN RETURN FOR DOING THAT, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO
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BUILD LARGER BUILDINGS.AND THAT'S, THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS IT IS.
YOU CAN BUILD A TALLER BUILDING, YOU CAN BUILD BUILDING WITH LOWER FLOOR AREA.
UH, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE GIVE, GIVE.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KIND OF THE PRIORITY TOOLS FOR WHAT A CREATIVE, UH, DISTRICT, COMBINING DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE, UH, UH, FIRST, UH, FIRST ONE WOULD BE A MINIMUM GROUND FLOOR CREATIVE SPACE REQUIREMENT.
SO ALONG AT LEAST 30% OF BUILDING FRONTAGE, UH, THE BUILDING MUST BE RESERVED FOR AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE USES.
UM, AND THEN ON THE GROUND FLOOR ITSELF, UH, AT LEAST 25% OF THE GROSS LEASEABLE AREA SHOULD BE DEDICATED TO AFFORDABLE, UH, CREATIVE SPACE USES THAT.
UM, THAT'S THE HELP CALIBRATE IT FOR, UH, VERY, VERY LARGE BUILDINGS ARE VERY LARGE SITES WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE A LOT OF MASS ON THE BOTTOM, BUT NOT AS MUCH FRONTAGE.
SO, UM, THIS WAY THERE'S A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF, TO BE A CREATIVE DISTRICT, A PORTION OF THE GROUND FLOOR HAS TO BE A CREATIVE USE.
IT HAS TO BE A VENUE, IT HAS TO BE ART WORKSHOPS.
IT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING THAT REALLY FITS THE BILL.
UH, THE MAJOR GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS NOW, UH, ARE BASED ON SOME RULES THAT WERE JUST PASSED, UH, BACK, I BELIEVE, IN, UH, EITHER LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH, UH, IN THE CODE, WHICH IS RELATED TO, UH, PRESERVATION AND RELOCATION FOR, UH, BENEFITS FOR, UH, EXISTING NON RESIDENTIAL SPACE.
WHAT, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO USE THIS DENSITY BONUS, YOU HAVE TO, YOU, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SOME PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IF THERE'S, UH, VENUES OR ART SPACES, ET CETERA, ALREADY IN THE DISTRICT.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD, IT WOULD APPLY TO, FOR ANY CREATIVE SPACE AND OPERATION FOR 12 MONTHS OR LONGER.
UM, THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD INCLUDE, UH, NOTICE, EXTENSIVE NOTICE AND PAYING OF RELOCATION BENEFITS.
WE'RE STILL KIND OF TALKING WITH PLANNING AND LAW ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE RELOCATION BENEFITS WILL LOOK LIKE, UM, TRYING TO, TRYING TO MAKE 'EM, UH, AS, AS GENEROUS AS POSSIBLE.
UH, AND THEN THAT'S FOR DURING DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS IN THE CASE OF LIKE A BUILDING, A LARGER BUILDING ON AN EXISTING SITE.
UM, THEN THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO REPLACE, UH, ALL THE EXISTING SPACE WITH, UH, CREATIVE SPACES OF COMPARABLE SIZE.
SO IF YOU ARE, IF YOU GET A SITE THAT HAS A MUSIC VENUE, UH, WELL, WELL, IT'S, YEAH, LET'S, OR A MUSIC CLUB, UH, OR REHEARSAL SPACE.
MAYBE IF YOU HAVE, IF YOUR SITE HAS, UM, 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF REHEARSAL SPACE, YOU HAVE TO PUT BACK IN 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF SQUARE FEET OF REHEARSAL SPACE IN THE NEW BUILDING.
UM, AND, UH, THERE'S ALSO BASICALLY A, A SORT OF RIGHT TO RETURN ELEMENT WHERE IF THAT CREATIVE SPACE OPERATOR, UH, THAT'S BEEN OPERATING FOR AT LEAST 12 MONTHS AT THE SITE, UH, IF THEY WANT IT, THEY AREN'T FORCED, BUT IF THEY WANT IT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE OPTION TO LEASE CREATIVE SPACE OF COMPARABLE SIZE AND AFFORDABILITY FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF REDEVELOPMENT.
SO NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO PUT THE, SAY AGAIN, 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF REHEARSAL SPACE BACK, IF YOU HAD A TENANT THERE, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM FIRST RIGHTS AND THE, AND THE LEADS HAS TO BE AFFORDABLE.
SO WHEN I GET TO THAT, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THAT SORT OF MEANS.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT BONUS, BASICALLY THERE'D BE A FOUR TO ONE REQUIREMENT FOR EVERY FOUR, UH, ADDITIONAL SQUARE, UH, ADDITIONAL SQUARE FEET OF SPACE YOU BUILD AT LEAST ONE SQUARE FOOT HAS TO BE AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE.
AND, AND RETURN FOR THAT, YOU CAN, AND THAT CAN BE UP TO A, A 50% INCREASE IN THE BASE, UH, FLOOR AREA, OR AN ADDITIONAL TWO STORIES OR 30 FEET, UH, FOR THE BUILDING.
UM, THERE'S ALSO MODIFICATIONS FROM THE COMPATIBILITY CRITERIA TO MAKE THOSE EASIER.
AND SOME SITE AREA REQUIREMENTS ARE WAIVED AS WELL.
UH, WE MODELED, WE'RE JUST MODELING THIS ON, UH, UH, DENSITY BONUS THAT WAS JUST PASSED IN A SIMILAR WAY AS A PAPER DISTRICT.
UH, BASICALLY THE SAME SORTS OF BENEFITS, MORE TARGETED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SOME OTHER TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS THAN THIS.
THIS IS TARGETED TO AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE, UM, BUT OTHERWISE FAIRLY SIMILAR IN THAT REGARD.
AND WE KNOW THAT, WE KNOW THAT'S AN EFFECTIVE TOOL BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON A ZONING INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT WAS PASSED, UH, ALREADY AND, AND HAD TO GET REVISED A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF, THERE ARE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS ALREADY IN PROCESS USING THAT ONE.
SO WE KNOW IT'S SOMETHING DEVELOPERS WILL RESPOND TO, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE'D BASICALLY BE TRYING TO PIONEER HERE, THESE, THESE TYPES OF CRITERIA, BUT WE'RE RIGHT NOW TRYING TO SAY THAT WILL BE 50% OF THE, UH, RETAIL MARKET, RIGHT? UM,
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OR A STABILIZED LEASE TO REVENUE RATIO BASED ON THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE.WHICH MEANS INSTEAD OF HAVING, LIKE, UH, INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING TRIPLE NET, FOR EXAMPLE, INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER MONTH, UH, IT WOULD BE BASED ON, UH, WHAT A REASONABLE, UH, PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL SALES IS BASED ON TO HAVE A LOT MORE KIND OF RELIABILITY FOR AN OPERATOR.
UH, OR, OR JUST 50% OF MARKET RATE, BASICALLY.
UH, ALSO INCLUDING A 5% RENT, RENT ESCALATION CAP.
SO THAT, UH, WE, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK OVER THE YEARS THAT A LOT OF VENUE OPERATORS HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH, UH, SORT OF RENTS SPIKING ON THEM OR, OR RENTS BEING INCREASED ON THEM.
LIKE SUDDENLY, IF, WHEN THERE'S A NEW YEAR, A NEW LEASE, THIS WOULD BASICALLY SAY, CAN'T DO THAT.
UH, AND THEN THIS WOULD ALSO INVOLVE A MINIMUM 10 YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD.
THAT'S, THAT'S A STANDARD, UH, LENGTH OF TIME AND A STANDARD TERM FOR THE CITY'S OTHER NON-RESIDENTIAL COMPLIANCE ITEMS. UH, MOST OTHER SORT OF DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S NON-RESIDENTIAL, THEY HAD GENERALLY JUST HAVE A 10 YEAR AFFORDABILITY PERIOD TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, FEASIBLE TO KIND OF TRACK AND MONITOR AND, AND HANDLE THE COMPLIANCE FOR.
BUT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED HERE.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE A FEE AND LIE OPTION.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING, LET'S SAY INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE IN THE BUILDING, UM, YOU COULD INSTEAD HAVE A FEE PER SQUARE FOOT THAT'S USED TO CALCULATE THAT.
YOU CAN CALCULATE AND INSTEAD PUT THAT MONEY IN, UH, PUT THAT MONEY INTO A FUND THAT CAN BE USED FOR PRESERVATION OF EXISTING CREATIVE SPACES IN A DISTRICT.
SO, AGAIN, TO MAKE IT MORE CONCRETE, LET'S SAY THIS IS A, A, THIS IS A DISTRICT WHERE THERE IS, UH, EXISTING ESTABLISHED MUSIC VENUE, UH, THAT NEEDS SUPPORT, UH, TRYING TO, FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, LONG, YOU KNOW, SAY BUYING OUT THEIR, BUYING OUT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, SOMETIMES IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT A MUSIC VENUE INSIDE OF A LARGE BUILDING.
SOMETIMES A VENUE SHOULD JUST BE A STANDALONE THING, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PUT THE MUSIC VENUE IN THE BUILDING, UM, THE DEVELOPER CAN PAY AN EQUIVALENT SORT OF FEE INTO A FUND THAT CAN BE USED TO HELP PRESERVE THE MUSIC VENUE NEXT DOOR.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN OPTION IN HERE AND, AND THAT SHOULD BE FINE.
SO THIS GETS TO, UM, THIS IS GETTING TO THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY.
AND, AND THAT'S SORT OF A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
UH, THE, THE, THE CREATIVE DISTRICT PROGRAM I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT IS BASED ON, UH, DENSITY BONUSES IN AREAS THAT DON'T ALREADY HAVE DENSITY BONUSES.
RED RIVER CURRENTLY, UH, IS IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS AREA.
SO WHAT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED, UH, BY OUR COLLEAGUES IN PLANNING AND LAW IS THAT WHAT WE DO FOR REV RIVER IS BASICALLY, UH, IN, WE'D HAVE TO INITIATE A NEW DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS SUBDISTRICT WHILE WE ESTABLISH THIS CREATIVE DISTRICT COMBINED DISTRICT.
SO WE DO THAT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WITH COUNCIL, THEN WE COULD TAILOR SOME OF THE, IT WOULD, IT COULD HAVE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SORT OF ELEMENTS I WAS JUST DESCRIBING.
WE CAN TAILOR IT MORE FOR RED RIVER NEEDS AT THAT POINT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF THE, THAT'S THE SAFEST AND, AND MOST VIABLE, UH, OPTION TO GIVE RED RIVER, UH, A DENSITY OR AN OVERLAY.
UM, AND IT, IT'S ALSO THE, YEAH, IT'S THE MOST ESTABLISHED AND, AND SORT OF FEASIBLE ONE.
THE OTHER OPTION, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, UM, THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, THESE OPTIONS ALL HAVE KIND OF PLUSES AND MINUSES.
THE REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT, UM, RED RIVER IS ALSO CURRENTLY UNDER, UH, HEIGHT CAPS FROM OTHER TYPES OF ZONING OVERLAYS, THE KIND OF MEAN THAT MOST OF THE SITES IN RED RIVER AREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS THEY COULD BE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, THE, THE THINGS THAT ARE, THE THINGS THAT ARE, UH, SORT OF HEIGHT CAPPING THEM ARE TIED TO, UH, PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO SEE THE CAPITAL BUILDING FROM I 35, UH, AND I 35 IS BEING RECONSTRUCTED, SO YOU NEVER KNOW.
BUT AS OF NOW, THAT, THAT CREATES KIND OF A CHALLENGING SITUATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE AREN'T LIKE A LOT OF, THERE AREN'T REALLY MANY GREAT OPTIONS BESIDES THAT.
ANOTHER OPTION, IF, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS SOMETHING, AND, AND WE'RE WE'RE, UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, EMAILS OUT TO BE MEETING RED WITH RED RIVER AND KIND OF BRIEFING THEM ON THIS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR, GETTING THEIR TAKES.
UM, THE OTHER OPTIONS THEY COULD LOOK AT ARE PURSUING HISTORIC DISTRICT PROCESS.
UM, THERE'S, THAT'S AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS WITH CLEAR PARAMETERS.
UH, THERE'S SOME BENEFITS TO DOING THAT.
IT, IT WOULD HAVE, IT WOULD BE A MUCH, IT WOULD BE A STRONGER PRESERVATION TOOL THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE KIND OF TRIGGERING THESE DENSITY BONUS,
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UH, UM, COMPONENTS.UH, THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WOULD BE JUST A, A STRAIGHT REGULATORY OVERLAY THAT LIMITS USES ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
UM, OUR, OUR COLLEAGUES BASED THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS A, THAT IS A RESTRICTION OF EXISTING PROPERTY RIGHTS USES AND EXISTING PROPERTY USES.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INITIATED EXPLICITLY BY COUNCIL IN THAT WAY.
WE'VE GOTTEN DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO KIND OF DO THESE DENSITY BONUS FRAMEWORKS AND THE, THESE SORT OF DENSITY BONUS DISTRICTS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE OUR, WHERE OUR COLLEAGUES FEEL COMFORTABLE ON, UM, SOMETHING MORE, UH, SOMETHING MORE, UM, LIMITING OF EXISTING, UH, SITES WOULD REQUIRE, UH, MORE, MUCH MORE EXPLICIT COUNCIL DIRECTION.
AND THAT'S SORT OF, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE THAT'S AT.
COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? YEAH.
AND THAT'S, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS, DONALD, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS PRESENTATION HERE.
UM, QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER? YES.
UH, JUST HAD A, JUST A COUPLE OF LIKE, PRETTY PROBABLY SIMPLE QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, AS FAR, LIKE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CONVINCE YOUR LANDLORD AND YOU OWN A MUSIC VENUE TO CHANGE THE LAND USE TO MUSIC VENUE AS YOU HAVE IT HERE, A LIVE MUSIC VENUE IN CREATIVE SPACE, UM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE ADDED BONUS TO ALLOW YOUR TENANT TO HAVE THIS IS PREDICATED ON WHETHER OR NOT THE LANDLORD HAS THE ABILITY OR FINANCIAL STAKES TO DEVELOP ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IF THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO KIND OF MAINTAIN AND COLLECT RENT, IS THERE, I MEAN, 'CAUSE YOU'RE ADDING A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO YOUR LAND AT THAT POINT, TOO.
SO IF I OWNED A PIECE OF LAND, YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF ADDING A LOT OF RED TAPE TO THAT LAND AT THAT POINT.
SO IT'D BE A LOT EASIER TO TELL YOUR TENANT TO SAY NO, STAY AS A COCKTAIL LOUNGE, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A RESTRICTED COVENANT ON MY LAND, AND I'M NOT GONNA DEVELOP IT TO THREE TO FOUR STORIES HIGHER ANYWAY.
'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE, WELL, WHATEVER, 10, $50 MILLION TO DO IT.
UM, HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED AT ALL? RIGHT.
WELL, SO, AND JUST TO, SO TO CLARIFY, TO E EVEN, EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE LAND USE TO SOMETHING ELSE, THEY CAN DEF THEY CAN DO THAT, THAT THEY DON'T NEED THIS, THEY DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR THAT.
THIS WOULD CREATE A, A DISTRICT PROCESS AND A DENSITY BONUS PROCESS.
SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE, THIS IS, IF THEY WANT TO GET A REGULATORY INCENTIVE TO DO THIS.
SO IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO GET A REGULATORY INCENTIVE TO, TO PUT, UM, UH, TO, TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THEIR SITE OR SUPPORT IT IN THE DISTRICT THAT THEY'RE IN, THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD BE FOR IN TERMS OF JUST CHANGING THE ZONING THAT'S LIKE, THEY CAN JUST, OR, OR JUST CHANGING THE LAND USE TO, UH, PERFORMANCE VENUE OR TO, YOU KNOW, COCKTAILS OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN JUST, THEY CAN JUST DO.
THIS IS FOR GETTING EXTRA INCENTIVE TO DO THAT IN TERMS OF AN EXISTING, IF YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE GOT AN EXISTING LANDLORD AND YOU, AND, UH, YOU JUST WANT THEM TO KIND OF KEEP THE, KEEP THE TENANT THEY'VE GOT, KEEP THE VENUE THEY'VE GOT, AND POTENTIALLY HAVE A MORE AFFORDABLE SITUATION FOR THEM, THAT WOULDN'T REALLY BE BEST TO ACCOMPLISH THROUGH A REGULATORY INCENTIVE PROCESS.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT BUILDING NEW STUFF, THAT IT'S KIND OF ENOUGH HARD TO DO ANY SORT OF INCENTIVE FOR THAT.
BUT IF, UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT FOR OTHER TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND OTHER TYPES OF INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO HELP, UH, STABILIZE, UH, MUSIC VENUES AND OTHER, AND, AND OTHER ART SPACES IN PLACE.
I, UM, UM, MR. JACKSON, UH, UM, SCOTT STRICKLAND HERE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
THE, UM, THE, UM, FIR FIRST OFF HAVE, HAVE, LIKE, IN, IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, AND, AND, UH, HAVE YOU ALL BEEN IN TALKS WITH ANY REAL ESTATE DEVELOPING COMPANIES ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PLAN THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US TODAY? WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO, UH, ONE OF THE ULI GROUPS ON THIS LATER IN THE MONTH.
AND WE ARE ALSO HAPPY TO KEEP TALKING TO, UH, OTHER DEVELOPERS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT GROUPS ON IT.
UH, SO MY, MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT WOULD BE IS, UH, KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER, THE, THIS WON'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING FOR LIKE A, LIKE A VIDEO THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE
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STUBS ISN'T GONNA BUILD A HIGH RISE ON TOP OF, OF THEIR VENUE.SO WE'RE, I MEAN, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE'RE OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING, UM, AT SOME POINT IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
I'M, I'M, I'M ASSUMING AM AM I, AM I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD SPEAK TO OR, YEAH, DEFINITELY.
SO FOR THIS, FOR THIS AND FOR THIS PROGRAM, THE, THE, THE, THE PLANNING AND THINKING FOR IT IS, IT WOULD BE FOCUSED TO, UH, DISTRICTS OR LARGE SITES, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, UH, IN TERMS OF, YEAH, IF THERE'S NO REDEVELOPMENT AT ALL IN THAT DISTRICT, THIS WOULDN'T, THIS WOULDN'T APPLY BECAUSE THIS IS A DENSITY BONUS.
INCENTIVE, RIGHT? BUT, UH, IF YOU HAVE A DISTRICT THAT HAS SOME SITES, IF, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A DISTRICT AREA THAT IS DOING THIS AND IT HAS A MIX OF SITES, SOME OF THEM YOU WANT TO PRESERVE, OR SOME OF THEM THAT ARE GOING TO STAY THE SAME, AND SOME WHERE THEY WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES OR, UM, IF, OR PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD WANT TO DEVELOP LARGER BUILDINGS ON THEM, UM, THEN THEY COULD USE THAT, LIKE I WAS SAYING, THERE CAN BE THE, THERE'S, THERE WOULD BE THIS FEE AND LOOP COMPONENT.
SO IF YOU HAVE, LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE ONE, ONE DISTRICT THAT'S TWO BLOCKS OR A BLOCK AND ONE PARCEL ON THERE WANTS TO GO UP TO A 90 FOOT BUILDING, AND ANOTHER PARCEL IS A MUSIC VENUE AND JUST WANTS TO STAY THAT WAY.
AND THE LANDLORD'S FINE WITH THAT.
THE FEE IN LIE FROM THAT LARGER BUILDING NEXT DOOR CAN BE USED TO HELP SUBSIDIZE THE VENUE NEXT DOOR.
UH, SO IT, IT, IT SEEMS, SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, STREAM REALTY IS, IS, IS IS A COMPANY THAT BASICALLY HAS BOUGHT UP A LOT OF PROPERTY EAST OF 35 UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR KIND OF THING.
AND, AND, AND WHAT'S, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT IS THAT WHOLE AREA OF EAST OF 35 IS GOING TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, TO WHERE WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA LOSE QUITE A FEW VENUES, MAYBE, UH, GONNA LOSE A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER THERE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING THE WHOLE WHOLE I 35 EXPANSION, UH, CAMPAIGN.
AND SO IT, IT, IT, IT, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE'RE INCENTIVIZING THESE NEW DEVELOPERS TO KIND OF LIKE JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT CREATIVE SPACES IN THESE NEW PLACES.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT AS A COMMISSION ALREADY, BUT, MM-HMM.
BUT THEN IT'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT SEEMS THIS IS KIND OF HAPPENING PRETTY HARD AND FAST, AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE AND, AND ON AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS, UH, BASED ON THE, THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THEM A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, NEEDS HELP.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE SORT OF AT AN, NO PUN INTENDED, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMPASSE HERE WITH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOMETHING THAT'S BRAND NEW, BRINGING SOMETHING NEW IN VERSUS THE PRESERVING THE OLD.
AND, UH, MR. JACKSON, I MEAN, I, I WOULD JUST, I MEAN, IS, IS THERE, COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL? YEAH, DEFINITELY.
SO, SO, UH, AS I, SO THERE ARE A COUPLE ISSUES THERE.
AND, AND, AND, AND, AND TEASING IT APART A LITTLE BIT.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE, THE MAIN, THE MAIN THRUST OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE THIS CREATIVE DISTRICT PROCESS THAT COULD BE APPLIED OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN.
AND, AND THAT MEAN, AND IN, IN THAT SITUATION, FOLKS COULD DO CREATIVE DISTRICT WHERE THAT, THAT HAD BUILT IN, UM, INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE CREATIVE SPACE IN THE NEW, IN NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE COMING IN, UH, OR GENERATING FEES THAT COULD BE USED TO PRESERVE EXISTING CREATIVE SPACES IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
RHETORIC AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS, IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY UNDER THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS BONUS THAT, UM, THAT AND HAS THESE LIMITATIONS.
SO, SO AS I, AS I SAID, I MEAN, THE ONLY, THE ONLY WAY TO, FROM A REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE, THE ONLY WAY TO, UM, IF YOU'VE GOT EXISTING PROPERTIES AND EXISTING VENUES, THE ONLY WAY TO ADDRESS THAT FROM A REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE, IF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS PRESERVE THEM, IS TO HAVE BASICALLY A REGULATORY OVERLAY THAT LIMITS THE USES, UM, ON THOSE SITES TO BEING VENUES.
AND THAT IS, UH, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT IS LEGAL.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT CITY COUNCIL, I'M, WE'RE STAFFERS.
WE CAN'T RECOMMEND THAT THAT'S A LIMITATION OF PROPERTY
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USES.IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY DRAMATIC.
UH, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO PROTEST RIGHTS AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF, THAT'S SORT OF THE, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT CALL.
IF THEY, IF THEY WANT TO INITIATE THAT, THEN, THEN THEY CAN INSTRUCT STAFF TO DO THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, I'LL, I'LL GET RIGHT TO YOU AFTER MR. COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL HERE.
UM, THIS IS DESIGNED TO HAVE CREATIVE SPACE BEING SHARED WITH OTHER USES IN A BUILDING.
AND ARE THOSE OTHER USES GOING TO BE RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL IS RIGHT, BECAUSE I COULD, I CAN FORESEE A REAL PROBLEM THAT IF 30% OF A GROUND FLOOR IS RESERVED FOR A LIVE MUSIC VENUE AND THE REST OF THE BUILDING IS ALL CONDOS, UH, THERE MIGHT BE COM THERE MIGHT BE SOUND COMPLAINTS AND NOISE COMPLAINTS.
AND, UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT OUR VENUES FROM HAVING TO DEAL WITH, UH, ANNOYED NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
UH, WE, AS THE CODE IS, AS IT'S CURRENTLY BEING DESIGNED, THERE'S A LOT OF, WE WANT TO GIVE FOLKS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR THIS, THIS WOULD, THAT BEING SAID, THIS WOULD BE GOING, ANY, ANY APPLICATION OF THIS WOULD GO THROUGH A FULL ZONING REZONING PROCESS.
SO THERE'D BE A LOT OF TIMES TO WORK OUT THOSE KIND OF ISSUES FOR THE SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
UM, THEY WOULDN'T, WE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO, IN THE SITUATION OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF CREATIVE SPACES, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANNA PRESCRIBE, UM, RESIDENTIAL.
IT MIGHT ALSO MAKE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT HAD ART SPACES ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND, UH, UH, HOUSING TARGETED TO ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS ABOVE.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO KIND OF DO A A ONE SIZE FITS ALL ON THAT.
WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE A LEVEL OF, WE WANNA MAINTAIN ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY, UH, AND ENSURE THAT THAT CAN BE WORKED AT WITH SPECIFIC, UH, PROJECTS.
AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, THE INTENT, AND AGAIN, THE, THE INTENT OF THIS IS NOT TO JUST BE SOMETHING THAT ANY BUILDING ANYWHERE CAN JUST DO, OR ANY DEVELOPER CAN JUST DO, UH, AT ANY SITE.
THE INTENT IS TO DO IS TO KIND OF HAVE THIS BE A SITUATION WHERE THERE HAS TO BE PROACTIVE, THE PROACTIVE CREATION OF SOMETHING LIKE A DISTRICT.
UH, THINK IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW KIND OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS WORK, THERE HAS TO BE, I THINK THEY, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT FOR ONE BLOCK FACE.
UH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT SUBSTANTIAL, BUT THE, THE INTENT IS THAT FOR ANYONE BRINGING THIS FORWARD, IT'S NOT JUST A DEVELOPER DOING THIS FOR ONE BUILDING TO, TO GET A, TO GET THIS ONE PARTICULAR BONUS.
IT'S PART OF A COMMUNITY AND A COM A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND A COMMUNITY DRIVEN EFFORT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THIS WOULD BE MORE CREATING THE MECHANISM BY WHICH PEOPLE CAN DO THAT AND CREATING A BONUS THAT CAN BE USED FOR THAT.
UM, AND THOUGH I WILL BE, AND THEN, AND I WILL BE CLEAR, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING OUT WITH LAW HOW BEST TO, TO DO THAT.
UM, THAT IS, THERE'S, WITH ALL THE RECENT LAWSUITS, THE LAST, UM, LAST COUPLE OF YEARS RELATED TO, UH, ZONING AND STUFF THAT THE FOLKS MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT, A LOT OF KIND OF THE FRAMEWORK FOR DOING THIS IS A LITTLE SHAKY.
UM, SO WE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE, THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT CAN JUST BE APPLIED WILLY-NILLY OR APPLIED IN A WAY WHERE YOU PUT OBVIOUS USE CONFLICTS TOGETHER LIKE THAT, BUT THAT THERE'S LIKE AN INTENTIONAL PROCESS WITH LIKE, GOOD REVIEW.
I JUST, I JUST FORESEE A SITUATION WHERE EVERY HIGH-END CONDO COMPLEX THAT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THIS WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A FANCY ART GALLERY ON THE GROUND FLOOR, BUT THEY SURE DON'T WANT A PUNK CLUB THERE.
AND I, YOU KNOW, SO I SEE MUSIC AS, AS BEING, UH, THE, UH, THE LESS DESIRED YEAH.
WELL, THEY'D LOVE TO HAVE SYMPHONY HALL THERE, RIGHT? PROBABLY.
UM, COMMISSIONER ADA, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AL.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'M STILL DEFINITELY ABSORBING A LOT OF, UM, INFORMATION.
I FEEL LIKE I HAVE KIND OF A, UM, SOME ELEMENTARY, UM, QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
BUT IN REGARDS TO RED RIVER, HAS THE PLAN FOR THE EXPANSION OF I 35 BEEN SOLIDIFIED IN THAT AREA? OR IS IT STILL AN ONGOING PROCESS? I ANITA, LIKE A VISUAL OF WHAT IS ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED OR NOT BEEN DETERMINED?
MY DEPARTMENT IS NOT REALLY OVERSEEING THAT.
THAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC
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WORKS DEPARTMENT.UH, OR, AND THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM, IT, IT'S, IT'S SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE KIND OF MANAGING THAT.
UH, WE CAN LOOK AND SEE KIND OF WHAT THE UPDATE, WHAT THE UPDATED STATUS ARE OR WHAT THE UPDATED STATUS IS FOR, FOR THE 35, UM, RECONSTRUCTION IN THE, IN IN THAT AREA.
I, DOES ANYBODY KNOW IN THIS ROOM IF, IN TERMS OF I 35 IN THE, AND IF THE PLANS HAVE BEEN SOLIDIFIED IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE EXPANSION NEAR THE RED RIVER DISTRICT? OR DO WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW, WHICH MAY BE, I THINK IT, I THINK IT HAS, BUT I'M, UM, OKAY.
I, I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY KIND OF VALUABLE INFORMATION TO JUST KNOW THAT TIMELINE, UM, MM-HMM.
WE, WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, I IF WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BY THE RED RIVER DISTRICT, UM, I THINK THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, IN TERMS OF THE CONS, I DON'T KNOW THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE TYPE THINGS.
I, I CAN SAY THAT NOTHING IN THE I 35 IS NOT EXPANDING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT ANY, ANY VENUES ON RED RIVER DIRECTLY IN TERM IN THE WAY THAT, THAT SOME OF THE SITES THAT YOU'VE, THAT YOU'VE HEARD OF, THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT ARE ADJACENT, LIKE ON I 35 MM-HMM.
THAT'S NOT ON THE, AT LEAST NOT ON THE PUBLIC MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED TO, TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC END OF THE CITY AS, AS, AS FAR AS I'VE SEEN.
SO, UM, THE IMPACTS WOULD BE MORE ABOUT LIKE CONSTRUCTION AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, THAT'S GONNA BE, THAT'S GONNA BE A THING.
WE'RE ALL GONNA BE DEALING WITH THAT FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
WELL, THAT'S JUST HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE SWIRLING CONVERSATIONS OF WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE, AND I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY PRAGMATIC ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY AM NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE, THE, THIS INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, BUT, UM, BUT I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE ON A WHOLE, THAT IT'LL REALLY BENEFIT, UM, THE GROWTH OF AUSTIN.
I DO THINK THAT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UM, WHAT IS A BETTER WORD THAN HISTORIC, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A LOADED TERM, BUT SOME OF THE URBAN CORE, I THINK IS, UM, WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS WILL BE APPLIED AND, AND THE, THE SENSE OF VALUE FROM IT.
SO I GUESS IT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO BE AN ONGOING CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL, UM, REALLY HAVE OUR HEAD IN THE GAME TO DETAILS, OR IT COULD VERY EASILY CHANGE WITHOUT US REALLY KNOWING THE IMPACTS OF THE, UM, DOWNTOWN IDENTITY.
YEAH, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
AND BY THE WAY, I THINK THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE.
I'M JUST, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THESE THINGS PLAY OUT.
SO I NOTICED THERE'S THE FEE IN LIEU OPTION.
AND IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, IF A, UH, DEVELOPER SAYS, OH, THIS, I SHOULDN'T HAVE A VENUE HERE, I WANT TO INSTEAD SUPPORT SOME OTHER VENUE IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, SO THAT'S A BIT OF A LOOPHOLE, AND I COULD SEE THAT A DEVELOPER WHO REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH INTEREST OR CARE FOR MUSIC, THE ARTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT MIGHT SAY, OH, THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO THROW IN A MILLION DOLLARS OR SO INTO THIS FUND AND THEN BUILD MY EXTRA FLOOR AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING, BUT THAT MEANS THAT THIS FEE IN LIEU FUND COULD BE VERY, COULD GET TO BE VERY BIG.
SO HOW BIG DO YOU THINK IT COULD POSSIBLY GET? UH, HOW WOULD IT BE MANAGED AND COULD THIS BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW COULD WE, AS THE MUSIC COMMISSION DRAW UPON THIS FEE IN LIE FUND TO SUPPORT MUSIC, UH, AS ANOTHER, UH, AS ANOTHER RESOURCE? SURE.
YES, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT AND WHAT THAT, HOW, HOW THAT COULD WORK FROM A FEE AND LIE OPTION.
UM, THAT THOUGH, AGAIN, UH, ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY WOULD BE DOING THIS IN SOME, SOMEWHERE THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN SORT OF DESIGNATED A CREATIVE DISTRICT.
SO IT'D BE IN AN, IT'D BE KIND OF A PROCESS OF NEGOTIATION WITH STAKEHOLDERS THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE IT'S
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NOT JUST, THEY'RE NOT PRES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUILD SOMETHING TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT OR SOMETHING THAT CONFLICTS WITH THE VENUES, ET CETERA.UM, IN TERMS OF HOW BIG THE FUND CAN BE, I, I, I, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T WANNA, I HONESTLY WOULDN'T WANNA SPECULATE.
UM, THIS, THIS WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE UTILIZED AS HEAVILY AS SIMILAR FUNDS THAT THE CITY HAS THROUGH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT THAT ARE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE SORT OF CREATED THAT ARE FED BY EVERY DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IN THE CITY.
UM, THIS WOULD BE A MORE LIMITED ONE.
THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT DEFINITELY COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL, UH, AND HOPEFULLY SUB, AND THE INTENT WOULD BE THAT IT COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO HELP PRESERVE EXISTING, UH, VENUES AND EX AND, AND CREATIVE DISTRICTS.
UM, THE WAY IT WOULD BE APPLIED, WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CAN KINDA KEEP WORKING OUT THE DETAILS OF.
UH, IT ISN'T AS, IT ISN'T IMMEDIATELY ESSENTIAL FOR THE CODE, BUT IT WOULD, UH, THE FUNDS WOULD BASICALLY BE DEPOSITED IN A CITY MANAGED FUND, OR A FUND MANAGED BY A CITY, UH, PARTNER, UH, LIKE THE EDC, UM, UH, OR DIRECTLY TO THE CITY LIKE CSAP.
IT, IT COULD JUST, THEY WOULD GO INTO SOME SORT OF FUND THAT COULD BEEN THEN, THEN BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS PRESERVATION PURPOSES.
SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES OF FUNDS THAT THE CITY AND CITY PARTNER, EDC USED TO DO PRESERVATION TYPE WORK FOR, FOR CREATIVE SPACES.
THAT KIND OF THING COULD BE, UH, REPLICATED OR COULD BE DONE THROUGH THOSE FUNDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I THINK SOME OF THOSE ARE KIND OF DETAILS THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE THE OP THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
COMMISSIONER GOUL, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PAPER DISTRICT CONCEPT, UM, AND THEN, BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I AM, I'M WONDERING ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF MAYBE COMMUNITY GROUPS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO, UM, BUT THAT IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE POSSIBLE DOWNTOWN OR IN ANY OF THE EXISTING DISTRICTS.
SO WHEN YOU SAID THE PA, THE THING ABOUT THE PAPER DISTRICT, I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT COULD BE REALLY COOL BECAUSE THEN MAYBE IT OPENS IT UP FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, REGULAR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES AND MONEY TO DO THINGS MAYBE OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, UH, CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WHEREVER.
AND THAT IS, THAT IS A A THOUSAND PERCENT PART OF THE INTENT.
LIKE THE, SO YES, THIS WOULD, THE PAPER DISTRICT MEANS IT, IT'S NOT BEING APPLIED ANYWHERE SPECIFICALLY NOW.
IT'S, IT CREATES A PROCESS THAT, UH, PEOPLE CAN USE TO, TO, TO ADOPT.
AND THAT CAN BE DONE, THAT COULD BE DONE ANYWHERE, BASICALLY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE COMMERCIAL ZONING OR LAND OR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, PROBABLY COULDN'T DO IT IN LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD SUPER EASILY.
UM, TECHNICALLY WE DIDN'T RESTRICT, WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING IT, BUT LIKE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, AGAIN, PEOPLE HAVE TO WANNA DO IT.
UH, IT'S A ZONING THING SO PEOPLE CAN OPPOSE IT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE TO, SO BASICALLY THINKING ABOUT LIKE ANY, ANYWHERE THAT'S GOT COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE OR INDUSTRIAL OR WAREHOUSE OR LIKE LAND, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, YEAH, THEY COULD DEFINITELY DO IT.
THE POINT IS TO MAKE IT CREATE A PROCESS WHERE FOLKS COULD DO EXACTLY THAT.
UM, IT COULDN'T BE DONE AT THE DOWNTOWN, LIKE PARTLY, YOU KNOW, PARTLY LAND-WISE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
ALSO, JUST, AGAIN, YOU CAN'T, THIS, THIS WOULDN'T WORK WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING LIKE MAJOR DENSITY BONUS AND LIKE DOWNTOWN HAS A, HAS THE BIGGEST DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IN THE CITY ALREADY.
SO, UH, IT COULDN'T REALLY CONFLICT WITH THAT, BUT IT COULD BE, IT COULD WORK ANY ANYWHERE ELSE IN AUSTIN.
SO, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE COMMISSION? UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PATTERSON, THANKS SO MUCH, DAWN.
UH, THIS AS YOU KNOW, LIKE IMMENSELY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THIS, AND IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE IT PROGRESS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN, THIS CONCEPT'S BEEN DEVELOPED VERY THOUGHTFULLY, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
COULD CREATIVE SPACE BE DEFINED, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN MENTIONED EARLIER SOME MONTHS AGO, BUT COULD
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CREATIVE SPACE BE DESIGNED AS WORK, LIVE SPACES? LIKE COULD, COULD HOUSING BE FOLDED IN THAT WAY? I THINK WE COULD.SO, SO THIS COULD DEFINITELY ALLOW THAT.
UM, ANYWAY, BUT IN TERMS OF INCLUDING THAT AS PART OF THE BONUS, WHAT WE, WE KEPT, WE KEPT IT TO THE KIND OF STANDARD CREATIVE SPACE USES.
WE DID, WE ARE GONNA, WE ARE RECOMMENDING HAVING A SORT OF, UM, A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY IN THERE FOR OTHER USES IS DEFINED BY THE DIRECTOR.
THAT'S TO ACCOMMODATE THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE WOULDN'T WANNA SAY JUST ANY SORT OF APARTMENTS FOR ANYBODY CAN COUNT TOWARDS YOUR CREATIVE SPACE.
'CAUSE LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LIKE, OKAY, IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN, UH, LIVE WORK UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE AND TARGETED TO, UH, ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS WITH STUDIO SPACE, YEAH.
THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO COUNT IN.
WE JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH, WE JUST NEED TO APPROVE IT IN THAT PROCESS.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, WELL, THIS IS SORT OF A COMBINED QUESTION FOR RIGHT TO RETURN AND THE FEE AND LIE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF A BUSINESS IS TEMPORARILY DISPLACED BY CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN AND SUBSIDIZE RENT, LIKE WHEN THEY GO BACK IN, IF, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE, TAKE THAT HIATUS AND COME BACK IN, I'M WONDERING IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR SOME FUNDING TO GO TO THEM FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR FRESH STARTUP COSTS AS THEY GO BACK INTO THE NEW BUILDING.
UM, SO THAT THEY MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR BOTH THE COMBINATION OF THE SUBSIDING SPACE, BUT ALSO SOME FUNDING FOR LIKE, JUST RE RESTARTING THEIR BUSINESS.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
THAT'S A GREAT, THAT IS A, THAT IS A, THAT IS A REALLY GREAT SUGGESTION.
AND THAT MIGHT BE SOME THAT, THAT MIGHT BE VERY, THAT MIGHT BE TRICKY TO HANDLE FROM THE REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD WRAP INTO OUR ECONOMIC INCENTIVES AS WELL.
AND THE WAY WE'RE DESIGNING THOSE, THEY COULD LAYER, UH, ON TOP OF THIS.
SO TO HAVE EXTRA KIND OF PROTECTION FOR, FOR VENUES, UH, WITH THE REGULATORY ANGLE AS WELL AS THE AS, AS WELL AS A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE.
AND SO IS THERE A RADIUS FOR THE, THE FEE AND LU USE? LIKE, I KNOW FOR PARKLAND FEES, IT'S, THERE'S A SPECIFIC RADIUS.
WOULD THIS BE SIMILAR? WELL, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE DISTRICT THAT IT'S IN.
UM, SO I MEAN, I WOULD ALSO, JUST WHILE I'M SPEAKING, I'D PROPOSE TO THE COMMISSION THAT WE, UH, BRING THIS FORWARD ON OUR NEXT AGENDA AS AN ACTION ITEM SO THAT WE CAN, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, UH, TO SUPPORT THIS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
UM, UH, HI, UH, MR. JACKSON, I HAVE JUST A FEW POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL SET DATE APRIL 18TH IN THE COUNCIL HEARING.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE FOR, UH, FOR ANY SORT OF ZONING CHANGE? YOU HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO YOU HAVE TO DO ONE COUNCIL, BE THE COUNCIL HAS TO, UM, UH, SET THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ONE MEETING, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO, THEN YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT A MONTH, UH, AT, AT LEAST.
AND THEN THEY HAVE TO, UM, SET THE, UH, THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THE REASON IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A, A BIG, A BIG GAP IN, IN THIS NEW TIMELINE IS BECAUSE FOR ANY ZONING THING, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING.
IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST, AND BASICALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SWAMPED UNTIL THE END OF MAY.
SO THEY JUST HAD TO PUSH, THEY HAD TO PUSH BACK OURS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
SO THEN THE NEXT, THE ONLY MEETING THAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED FOR COUNT AND THEN AFTER, AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE, IS THAT THERE HAS TO BE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, A WEEK OR TWO FOR, FOR COUNCIL TO, TO, TO REVIEW IT.
THERE'S ONLY ONE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, AFTER THE, THE, THE, THE ONLY COUNCIL MEETING AVAILABLE AFTER, UH, THE MAY 28TH, UM, DATE OR AFTER THAT END OF MAY IS NOT UNTIL JULY 18TH BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ANY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN JUNE.
UM, AND, UH, THESE, UM, THE, THE, THE PARAMETERS AROUND THE 30% OF THE BUILDING FRONT AGE 25% OF GROUND FLOOR, MM-HMM.
UM, DO THESE APPLY TO EVERY, EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY, UM, THAT, THAT GETS, YOU KNOW, BUILT IN THE, IN, IN THE DISTRICT? AND, UH, AND THEN WHAT, WHAT KIND OF, UM, IF SOMEBODY OPTS OUT, WHAT KIND OF PENALTIES ARE INVOLVED? OR IS IS ESSENTIALLY THE OPT-OUT OPTION IS THE FEE IN LIE? RIGHT.
THAT'S A REALLY, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK IN, IN THEORY, WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER,
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UH, HIGHER PERCENTAGE IN ONE AREA WITH, I BALANCE IT OUT IN ANOTHER, UH, IN THE SAME DISTRICT.BUT I, I THINK PROBABLY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, OF THE DENSITY OF OPERATIONALIZING THE A DENSITY BONUS IN THIS PROGRAM, THAT, THAT JUST MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE.
SO YES, IT WOULD BE A, A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, ANY SITE IN, IN THE DISTRICT.
AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THEY COULD DO THE FEE IN LU INSTEAD.
UM, I THINK, UM, UH, I MADE SOME NOTES HERE.
LET ME AT LEAST, UH, LOOK THROUGH THOSE.
UM, AND, AND THEN, SO THE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF IT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS OR AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND THERE ON, WELL, FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE'RE, UH, AS I SAID, WE'RE TRYING TO REACH OUT TO, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TIME WITH RED RIVER ON THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE DOING ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.
WE STARTED WITH, UH, COMMISSION HEARINGS, SO MUSIC COMMISSION AND THIS COMMISSION, UH, AND ALSO WORKING WITH, UM, DIFFERENT COMMITTEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT SCHEDULED WITH, UH, A ULI TEAM LATER IN THE MONTH.
UH, ALSO BASICALLY BETWEEN NOW AND, UH, SO THROUGHOUT APRIL, MAY, AND JUNE, WE CAN WE'LL BE DOING ADDITIONAL, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.
UH, AND IF FOLKS HAVE SPECIFIC GROUPS THAT THEY'D RECOMMEND THAT WE TALK TO OR PRESENT WITH OR GET FEEDBACK FROM ON SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS, UH, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM MY WAY.
LOVE TO TALK TO FOLKS, AND I CAN TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT THIS, UH, AND, AND, AND HAPPY TO GIVE FEEDBACK.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? I, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT, WHAT ABOUT RED RIVER? LIKE, LIKE MM-HMM.
BUT WHAT ABOUT WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND THAT NEEDS OUR ATTENTION? RIGHT.
WELL, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE CAN'T, UM, BASED ON THE CURRENT GUIDANCE, WHAT WE CAN OFFER IS, IS SOMETHING LIKE A DENSITY BONUS OR THERE, THERE ALSO COULD EXPLORE LOOKING AT HISTORIC ZONING.
THAT'S AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS, RIGHT? UH, MORE, A STRONGER REGULATION WOULD HAVE TO BE EXPLICITLY DIRECTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
UM, BECAUSE AS I SAID, IT'S, IT'S REDUCING EXISTING PROPERTY ENTITLEMENTS.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING STAFF CAN INITIATE.
UM, AND, AND MR. JACKSON, THAT'S, GO AHEAD.
ADDITIONALLY, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE, WE ARE WORKING ON AN, AN, UH, FINANCIAL INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, UH, THAT ARE LIKE FINANCE BASED, NOT, NOT DENSITY, BONUS BASED, THAT COULD BE USED TO HELP STABILIZE VENUES, UH, IN EXISTING SPACES AND EXISTING DISTRICTS.
UM, WITHOUT, WITHOUT, WITHOUT HAVING, WITHOUT NECESSARILY HAVING REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE, UH, ALSO DEFINITELY BRINGING TO THIS COMMISSION TO REVIEW BEFORE IT GOES, UH, TO COUNCIL.
UH, SO JUST, YEAH, JUST STARTING ONTO WHAT UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND IS ASKING ABOUT HERE, WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION OUT TO PROVIDE GAP FUNDING TO OUR RCD.
UH, IS THERE, UM, IS THERE A CLEAR UPDATE ON THAT AT THIS POINT? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING, UH, I CAN GIVE AN UPDATE ON.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT, THIS IS A DIFFERENT PROGRAM.
THIS WOULDN'T BE, THIS IS GAP.
THIS WOULD, THIS IS LIKE DENSITY, BONUS AND INCENTIVE TYPE THINGS FOR, UH, PROJECTS AND, AND SORT OF VENUES AND, AND, AND THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I DON'T, I CAN'T GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE GAP FINANCING FOR RED RIVER'S OPERATIONS AT THIS POINT.
I THINK, UH, AS I SAID, OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT'S STILL TRYING TO SCHEDULE THAT MEETING, AND ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO, WE CAN TALK THROUGH THAT MORE WITH RED RIVER.
COMMISSIONER, I'M, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE ANOTHER REALLY BASIC QUESTION, BUT, UM, I WANTED TO TRY, I'M TRYING TO ABSORB ALL THIS INFORMATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO LIKE, WHAT, WHERE, WHERE DO YOU IMAGINE THESE DISTRICTS TO BE IN AUSTIN? LIKE WHERE, JUST SO I CAN HAVE LIKE A VISUAL AID OF LIKE, WHERE ARE WE THINKING THESE DISTRICTS WOULD EXIST AND THEN MY BRAIN WILL ABSORB THIS INFORMATION, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IN A BETTER SENSE? RIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, AND THAT IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE EASIER TO THINK ABOUT, ABOUT SPATIAL SPACES.
I, I'M HESITANT TO SORT OF TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD BE.
WE WANT THAT TO COME FROM THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY AND, AND FOR PROPERTY OWNERS NOT HAVE US TELL, NOT HAVE THIS, NOT HAVE ME AS A CITY STAFFER, JUST LIKE PICK A SPOT.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU IN THE GUIDANCE FROM THE RESOLUTION, DEFINITELY COUNCIL ENVISIONS HAVING AT LEAST ONE OF THESE IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
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SO THE IDEA THAT THERE'D BE, YOU KNOW, CENTERS FOR, UH, FOR, FOR MUSIC AND CREATIVE SPACE AROUND THE CITY WAS DEFINITELY PART OF THAT.AND CERTAINLY WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
UM, OTHER, OTHER, UH, SORT OF FOLKS HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THEIR OPINIONS ON WHAT AREAS MIGHT BE GOOD FOR IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I KNOW DAVE SULLIVAN PRESENTED, UH, UH, GAVE SOME IN, GAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE, UM, I THINK THE MONITOR A FEW MONTHS AGO.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT SPOTS YOU COULD LOOK, BUT IF YOU JUST, AND JUST BY, JUST BY WAY OF KIND OF EXAMPLE, UM, OF SOMETHING THAT EXISTS, RIGHT? THAT'S SORT OF, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, AND THIS IS MORE KIND OF THE CREATIVE ANGLE THAN A VENUE ANGLE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF THE, THE, THE CANOPY AREA, THE MUSEUM OF HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT AREA, THAT'S LIKE A CONCENTRATION OR COMPLEX OF CREATIVE USES AND CREATIVE SPACE USES SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAVE TO BE THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE, ARE, ARE PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENVISION WITH THIS.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, IN, IN SORT OF SOUTH AUSTIN AND SOUTH MANCHAC ON SOME OF THE VENUES AROUND THERE, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING MORE OF LIKE A DISTRICT, UM, THAT KIND OF THING IS THE SORT OF AREA WHERE THAT COULD WORK.
THAT DOES, AGAIN, BASICALLY THE ONLY REAL RESTRICTION IS THAT IF THERE'S ALREADY A LARGE DENSITY BONUS, LIKE MASTER PLAN IN PLACE, WE CAN'T DO IT THERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, THAT'D BE CUTTING INTO IT.
IT WOULDN'T, IT, YOU JUST CAN'T DO BOTH, UM, ANYWHERE MOST OF THE REST OF THE CITY WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
AND BY THAT I MEAN REALLY KIND OF, UH, COMMERCIAL ARTERIALS AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, WAREHOUSE DISTRICTS, INDUSTRIAL AREAS, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, LAND THAT'S UNDEVELOPED YET, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GDA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, SUCH A THOROUGH AND IN-DEPTH, UH, UH, RESPONSES.
UH, I, I THINK, UH, THIS IS QUITE, QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION TO CHEW ON, SO, UM, UM, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, UH, FEEL FREE TO, UM, DIRECT IT TO STAFF AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE CAN, UM, GET THOSE ADDRESSED, ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK TO THE AGENDA, UH, NEXT MONTH.
UH, I THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, UH, EVERYONE KIND OF SPENDS SOME TIME ON UNDERSTANDING THIS A BIT MORE IN ITS FURTHERMORE, RATHER IN ITS ENTIRETY, BECAUSE WE DID SPEND A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME HERE AND, AND, UH, UH, HAVING A PERSPECTIVE ON IT, UH, UH, BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, OR BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE NEXT, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU MR. JACKSON.
MOVING ON, UM, JUST A TIME CHECK.
WE WILL HAVE TO, UH, MOVE THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, UH, QUICKLY IN THE COUPLE IN THERE THAT, UM, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY JUST, UM, EITHER, UH, GO OFF THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SPEAKERS ON THOSE.
[3. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]
THE AGENDA UNDER STAFF BRIEFINGS IS LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, UPDATE BY KIM MCC, CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, EDD.KIM MCC CARSON PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M GONNA BE GIVING YOU THE UPDATE ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND HOTEL OCCUPANCY COLLECTIONS THUS FAR.
SO OUR, OUR NEW COLUMN HERE GOES UP TILL FEBRUARY.
SO THE COLLECTIONS FOR FEBRUARY ARE 288,304, AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST TO THE LEFT THERE.
UM, THAT'S, UH, THE, THE NUMBER LAST YEAR WAS, UH, AT THIS TIME 323,000, UM, OH 76.
SO THAT'S ABOUT LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, LITTLE BIT LESS, MAYBE 10%.
UM, BUT ABOUT THE SAME AS YOU AS AS LAST TIME, THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COLLECTIONS? COMMISSIONER ROSEN? THE NUMBER IS INCORPORATED IN THE 2 MILLION, UH, 77, 678 FIGURE FOR THE TOTAL TO DATE.
YEAH, I'M, UH, I'M JUST LOOKING AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE WHATEVER THE CITY BROUGHT IN DURING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST UNTIL THAT BIG DARK BLUE SECTION IN THE MIDDLE.
SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE, UH, IT SAYS THAT'S THE APRIL NUMBERS.
SO WE'VE ONLY GOT THE FEBRUARY NUMBERS, SO IN TWO MONTHS WE'LL KNOW HOW MUCH CAME FROM SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.
THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE YEAR OVER THE OVER YEAR.
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THANK YOU FOR, UH, ENLIGHTENING US ON THATUM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT, GOOD.
[4. Update on consultant evaluation of the FY23 Live Music Fund Event Program by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division.]
TOPIC ON THE, UH, AGENDA IS, UM, UPDATE ON CONSULTANT EVALUATION OF THE FI 23 LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM BY SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, EDD.ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC, ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
UH, SO OUR CONSULTANTS, UH, CONTINUE TO DO THEIR WORK OF GETTING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF EVALUATING OUR FY 2023 PROGRAMS. UM, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, FOCUS GROUPS WILL BE FORMED BY MEASURE OS BY MEASURE ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL OUTCOMES OF ALL OF THE PROGRAMS FROM THE GUIDELINES.
AND SO WE'LL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE IN EARLY SUMMER, UH, SINCE THAT WORK IS STILL JUST IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
UH, INTERNALLY, QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION?
THE, SO, SO, SO THE, THE UPDATE, YOU'RE GOING TO UPDATE US ONCE THEY'VE COME BACK WITH THEIR EXACTLY.
SO THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT MUCH OF AN UPDATE FROM LAST MONTH AND THAT WE'RE JUST INTERNALLY WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THESE GROUPS, THESE FOCUS GROUPS TOGETHER.
UM, ERICA, THERE WERE DIFF DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE CONSULTANT FEEDBACK, RIGHT? AND SOME OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN INCORPORATED.
COULD YOU PLEASE THROW SOME LIGHT ON THAT AS TO WHAT, LIKE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK HAS BEEN IN INCORPORATED INTO THE, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, YOU KNOW, 2024 ROLLOUT? NOT CONSULTING FEEDBACK SPECIFICALLY.
WHAT WE'VE INCORPORATED IS THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM APPLICANTS AND AWARDEES OF 2023, AS WELL AS JUST OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED AS WE WENT OF JUST LESSONS LEARNED.
SO MORE OF THAT FEEDBACK IS WHAT WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO DO AS, AS THE PROGRAM WAS ONGOING LAST YEAR, UH, TO IMPROVE IT, UH, IMMEDIATELY.
AND SO ANY NEW, ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THE CONSULTANTS COME TO US WITH, OF COURSE, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT CAREFULLY AND, UH, INCORPORATE AS A DEPARTMENT WITHIN ALL OF THE PROGRAMS. 'CAUSE THE CONSULTANT WORK, AGAIN, ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, IT'S FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. OH, DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. YEAH.
[5. Update on FY24 Austin Live Music Fund guidelines by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division.]
AGENDA ITEM IS ALSO YOURS, UH, UPDATE ON FY 24 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES.ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU GUYS HERE TODAY.
UH, SO THESE ARE OUR DRAFT, UH, PROGRAM GUIDELINES.
I JUST WANNA KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, OUR LAW DEPARTMENT'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT ALL OF THIS.
UH, THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, AS DONALD HAD ALLUDED TO, SO WE WOULD JUST WANNA BE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT FOOTING AND HAVE LAW TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THESE GUIDELINES.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE, AND I'LL GO THROUGH QUICKLY THROUGH THIS, IT'S THE SAME PRESENTATION AS BEFORE WITH THE UPDATES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW OF WHAT WE'RE DOING SO FAR, BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, BASED ON OUR, UM, US THINKING ON THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND FROM HAVING SOME GUIDANCE FROM LAW OF WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO.
AND SO, AGAIN, JUST THE FIRST SLIDES ARE JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THIS WAS ON THE WEBSITE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE KIND OF THE BACKGROUND OF LIVE MUSIC FUND, SO THEY'RE NOT SEEING THESE UPDATES, YOU KNOW, IN A SILO.
UH, SO PLEASE CHECK OUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW WE'VE GOT HERE, HOW THE TIMELINE GOT US HERE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, UH, TOWARDS OUR PILOT PROGRAM LAST YEAR, AND WORKING TOWARDS OUR NEXT PROGRAM FOR 2024.
AGAIN, ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS, PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS IN LIVE MUSIC VENUES.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, DIRECT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU MORE DIRECTLY.
UH, AGAIN, THE PROGRAM PURPOSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO CREATE A MORE EQUITABLE, DIVERSE MUSIC SCENE AND ALSO REALLY LOOK AT THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACROSS INDUSTRY SECTORS IN AUSTIN.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CORE EQUITY PRINCIPLES THAT, UH, FROM A MUS FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROVIDE A PRESERVATION, INNOVATION AND ELEVATION AND COLLABORATION BASIS, THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO CREATE A MORE DIVERSE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.
UH, SO I DO HIGHLY RECOMMEND IF THIS IS NEW TO ANYONE WATCHING AT HOME, PLEASE CLICK ON THOSE LINKS.
YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THIS FROM OUR, FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION WEBSITE SO YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
SO FOR THE, UM, THIS WE ARE, WE WENT DIRECTLY TO INELIGIBLE APPLICANTS.
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HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE RIGHT ORDER.IT SEEMS A LITTLE OUTTA PLACE, BUT, UM, SO AGAIN, APPLICANTS THAT DON'T FIT THE DEFINITION, REQUIREMENTS OF THE MUSICIAN, THE PROMOTER, THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE, THESE ARE THE SAME DEFINITIONS WE'VE USED ONGOING.
UM, THESE ARE THE SAME INELIGIBLE APPLICANT'S, YOU KNOW, STATUS THAT YOU SAW LAST MONTH OR THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS WHAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, PROFESSIONAL AND MUSICIANS.
UH, FOR THIS, JUST FOR THE PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, WHICH HAVE THE BIGGEST PART OF THE BUDGET, THERE'S ALSO A LOT MORE COMPETITIVE FOLKS.
SO WE ARE KEEPING THE 15 OR $30,000, UM, UH, GRANT AWARDS, BUT WE WILL REQUIRE THAT YOU CAN'T RECEIVE TWO CONSECUTIVE AWARDS STARTING IN 2025.
SO IF YOU GET A GRANT IN 2024 OF EITHER 15 OR 30, YOU CAN'T APPLY THE NEXT YEAR.
AND SO, UH, WAS TALKING WITH THE CHAIR ABOUT THIS OF LIKE, WELL THEN WHAT ABOUT 20 UP TO 24 MONTH CONTRACTS FOR THOSE 15 OR 30? AND THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, FOR, UH, LIVE MUSIC VENUES, IT'LL STAY THE SAME, UM, 30 OR 60 DEPENDING ON YOUR OPERATING BUDGET.
UH, AND THEN REQUIREMENTS OF ALL AWARDEES, UH, UPFRONT, 50, 40% WITH YOUR PROGRESS REPORT AND 10% WITH YOUR FINAL REPORT.
SO THESE ARE THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES THAT WE WANNA BE.
SURE, AND I DID LOSE SOME FORMATTING, IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN THIS WENT INTO A PDF.
SO THESE ARE ALL THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES AND WHAT'S NEW, AGAIN, 51, THIS ISN'T NEW.
51% EXPENSES MUST BE SPENT WITHIN THE ETJ.
WE JUST WANNA BE VERY EXPLICIT ABOUT THAT TO, TO ALL OF THE APPLICANTS.
UH, ALSO, UH, WE ARE GIVING MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE PROMOTIONAL TOURS OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN.
AGAIN, THIS MUST INCLUDE AN AUSTIN TOURISM MARKETING PLAN.
AND THE, WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND THE FUNDS ON ARE JUST ALL ANYTHING BUT THE TRAVEL EXPENSES, WHICH ACTUALLY COVERS A FAIR AMOUNT OF YOUR TOUR, SUCH AS REHEARSAL FEES, MARKETING AND PROMOTIONS, MERCHANDISE, TRANSPORT MANAGEMENT, ARTIST, CREW FEES, EQUIPMENT AND TRANSPORT RENTALS, ADMINISTRATIVE ADVANCEMENT AND TOUR RELATED SHIPPING.
AND SO, AS YOU KNOW, THAT IS A BIG CHUNK OF YOUR TOURING BUDGET.
UH, WE CAN'T USE HOT FUNDS TO PAY FOR THOSE TRAVEL EXPENSES OR THOSE HOTELS OUTSIDE OF TEXAS JUST WOULDN'T BE RIGHT.
UH, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO FOCUS THAT FUNDING.
UM, BUT AS YOU SEE ON THE NEXT COLUMN, LODGING AND TRAVEL FOR PARTICIPATING ARTISTS FROM OUTSIDE OF CENTRAL TEXAS COMING TO AUSTIN TO PERFORM AS PART OF AN AWARDED PROJECT.
UH, IT IS AN ACCEPTABLE USE OF THE HOT FUNDS TO PAY FOR THOSE HOTELS IN THAT TRAVEL.
SO, IN AN INELIGIBLE EXPENSES, SO THIS IS WHERE WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FROM OUR LAW DEPARTMENT.
SO, UM, ANY AWARDEE TRAVEL, INCLUDING GAS FLIGHTS, HOTELS, TOLLS, PARKING FERRIES IS INELIGIBLE.
UH, LET'S JUST MAKE IT CLEAN SO THAT WE JUST WON'T, WON'T INCLUDE THOSE THINGS.
BUT YOU CAN, SO YOU CAN FOCUS THOSE FUNDS ON JUST THE PARTS OF ACTUALLY GETTING THE TOUR DONE, UH, AND HAVING THAT REALLY STRONG PROMOTIONAL PLAN, THAT MARKETING PLAN, AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PRESENTS, UH, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT SO THAT WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG TOURING, UM, PROGRAM THAT IS PROMOTING TOURISM AND CONVENTIONS IN AUSTIN.
UH, ALSO INELIGIBLE FOOD AND HOSPITALITY.
AND THEN ALSO THIS IS DIFFERENT, UH, 'CAUSE WE GOT BETTER UNDERSTANDING FROM LAW.
BENEFITS ARE NOT ALLOWED FUNDRAISERS AND BENEFITS, INCLUDING ENTERTAINMENT AND RECEPTIONS IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
WE DO A LOT OF BENEFITS AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE TICKETED AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE FUNDS COULD GO TO SIMS OR TO HIM OR WHATEVER IT IS.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS NOT ALLOWED BY STATUTE.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THE SAME SCORING AS BEFORE.
WE JUST MADE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE WAS REALLY FOCUSED, NOT ON PROJECTS, JUST ON ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, JUST TOOK THAT LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE OF HOW WE'RE SCORING THIS YEAR.
UH, SO THIS IS REALLY FOCUSING ON, AGAIN, WHAT HAS THE PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN, INDEPENDENT PROMOTER BEEN DOING? LIKE HOW, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IN THE PAST? AND WE WILL SCORE YOU FOR THAT.
SAME THING WITH LIVE MUSIC VENUES.
UH, TELL US HOW YOU'VE BEEN OPERATING YOUR BUSINESSES ALREADY, AND WE WILL SCORE YOU FOR THAT NEXT SLIDE.
SO THE AWARDEE COMMITMENTS, JUST TO MAKE IT AGAIN, VERY CLEAR, UM, THAT ANY AWARDEES USING GRANT FUNDS FOR THOSE PUBLIC EVENTS MUST CARRY EVENT INSURANCE.
AND SO THIS, AND THIS IS A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION AROUND VENUE INSURANCE AND THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING THOSE ADDITIONAL ENDORSEMENTS THAT THE CITY REQUIRES, UH, ON A VENUE INSURANCE.
INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, WE'LL JUST SAY, JUST, YOU HAVE TO CARRY EVENT INSURANCE FOR THAT PARTICULAR DATE.
UM, AND JUST MAKE IT MORE EASY.
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BUT THE FUNDING WILL COVER THAT EVENT.INSURANCE, OF COURSE, PROFESSIONAL, UH, MUSICIAN COMPENSATION.
YOU HAVE TO PAY THE CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARD RATE OF PAY FOR ANY, UH, MUSICIANS AND ARTISTS THAT ARE PAID WITH THE GRANT FUNDS.
AND THEN TRAINING WILL BE, UH, REQUIRED BOTH FOR THE EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WILL HAVE A TEMPLATE AND A GUIDE FOR CREATING THAT AND SOME TRAINING AROUND WHAT IS AN EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN IN AUSTIN.
UH, SO THAT, UH, PEOPLE ARE PREPARED AND, UM, CAN ACTUALLY HELP BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES THROUGH THESE STRATEGIC PLANS.
AND THEN ALSO REQUIRED TOURISM MARKETING THAT WE DO, UH, IN COORDINATION WITH VISIT AUSTIN.
IT WAS VERY POPULAR THIS YEAR.
THEY LOVED IT, AND IT'S REALLY HELPFUL.
AND IT DOES HELP BUILD A BETTER MARKETING PLAN AND A BETTER SKILLSET TO PROMOTE THOSE SHOWS, THOSE EVENTS, THOSE RECORDS, WHATEVER YOU'RE PROMOTING TO OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN TO PROMOTE IT IN THE STRONGEST WAY POSSIBLE TO GET TO THAT TOURIST MARKET AND THE CONVENTION MARKET THAT WE WANNA TARGET USING HOT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO USE THE CITY OF AUSTIN MARKETING STATEMENT AND HAVE TO HAVE PROGRESS IN FINAL REPORTS.
AND THAT MARKETING STATEMENT, LIKE SPECIFICALLY IT'S THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PRESENTS THAT THE, FOR ANY KIND OF PUBLIC FACING THING, IF YOU'RE, IF THERE'S A TOUR, JUST LIKE IT WOULD BE FOR ANY BIG SPONSOR, THE TOP OF THE LINE IS AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PRESENTS.
AND ALSO WE WILL HAVE LOGO PLACEMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND MAKE THAT A LOT EASIER FOR ALL OF THE AWARDEES TO GET THAT INFORMATION THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH LONG CENTER.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, ERICA.
UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER
UM, THIS IS REALLY COOL AND IMPROVED, AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOU DID.
THIS IS SUPER HELPFUL TO KNOW ABOUT.
UM, WHEN DOES THE PLANNING FOR 2025 BEGIN FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE WITH THE CONSULTANTS? MM-HMM.
TYPICALLY NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, AS SOON AS WE GET THE INFORMATION BACK FROM THE CONSULTANTS, WE'LL MEET TOGETHER AND WE'LL, ACTUALLY THE WORK STARTS RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY IMPROVING IT.
LIKE WHAT IS POSSIBLE FOR FY 24 AND WHAT WE NEED TO LIKE JUST PUSH OFF FOR FY 25 SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.
UH, SO REALLY IMMEDIATELY, UH, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE'VE LAUNCHED THE APPLICATION AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE SCORING PROCESS, WE'VE LEARNED A LOT ALREADY.
AND SO WE ALREADY START UPDATING EVERYTHING AT THAT POINT.
UH, SO WE'LL DO THAT BASED LIKE WE DID THIS YEAR BASED ON HOW DID IT GO, WHAT DID APPLICANTS SAY TO US? HOW, WHAT IS THE FEEDBACK THAT RECEIVED FROM THE LONG CENTER, FROM THE APPLICANTS, THE AWARDEES, AND FROM YOU GUYS, THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND FROM WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE AS WELL.
SO WE'LL START THAT IMMEDIATELY AND THEN WE'LL ROLL IN ANY IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT WE LEARN FROM THE CONSULTANTS WORK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CELESTE? UM, PLEASE.
THIS, JUST LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS MAKES ME SO PROUD OF OUR CITY AND THE WORK THAT EVERYONE IS DOING TO PULL THIS OFF.
IT REALLY IS SO INCREDIBLY SPECIAL.
UM, I'M JUST SO PROUD OF AUSTIN.
UM, AND ALL THE WORK THAT, UM, STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, HAS DONE AND THE, YOU KNOW, PAST COMMISSIONS AND THE CURRENT ONE AND EVERYTHING, ARE WE, ARE WE SHARING, I WONDER EVEN IF LIKE THE, UM, MAYBE IT'S A QUESTION FOR LIKE COUNCIL OR THE MAYOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ARE WE SHARING ANY OF THIS INFORMATION OTHER THAN OBVIOUSLY ONLINE WITH OTHER CITIES? ACTUALLY, PART OF THE CONSULTANTS' WORK IS TO KIND OF LOOK AT PURE CITIES AS WELL AS LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO HELP INFORM THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING.
BUT ESPECIALLY ON THE MUSIC SIDE, THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF, THERE ARE NO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE A FUND LIKE THIS, SPECIFICALLY TARGETED TO MUSIC THAT USES HOTEL O OCCUPANCY TAX.
TYPICALLY, IT'S YOUR MORE TRADITIONAL CULTURAL ARTS THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN A FOCUS FOR DECADES AND DECADES.
SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR AUSTIN TO LEARN AND SPREAD THE WORD AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SHARE WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED WITH OTHER PURE CITIES.
UH, ESPECIALLY THESE OTHER MUSIC CITIES.
HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS WITH FOLKS OVER SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST MEMPHIS, NASHVILLE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA.
AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, GOODWILL AND OPEN COMMUNICATION ALREADY HAPPENING WITH THESE PEER CITIES.
UH, SO I THINK WE'RE KIND OF ON THE FOREFRONT ON THE MUSIC SIDE.
UH, BUT WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, LEARNING FROM JUST COLLECTIVELY FROM THE HISTORY OF IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING AROUND ALL GRANT MAKING TO THE ARTS, UH, WITH A LENS OF EQUITY AND, UM, BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS SO THAT MORE PEOPLE CAN APPLY, UH, REALLY LOOKING AND EXPANDING OUR IDEAS OF WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE IN TERMS OF ART MAKING OR MUSIC
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MAKING.SO IT'S AN EXCITING TIME TO KIND OF BE WORKING WITH ALL OF THESE AMAZING PEOPLE TO IMPROVE THESE PROGRAMS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
REALLY PROUD TO BE HERE AND EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM RIGHT NOW.
UM, I JUST HAD ONE SMALL QUESTION.
IT JUST SAYS THAT, UM, APPLICATIONS CANNOT RECEIVE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
AND SO IT REALLY IS TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR BROADEST GROUP OF APPLICANTS IS, WHICH IS MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS.
AND THOSE ARE REALLY LARGE, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIAL GRANTS THAT I THINK THAT WE WANNA BE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS GETTING A CHANCE TO GET THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT TO HELP GROW THEIR BUSINESS.
I MEAN, IT IS A TRUE INVESTMENT.
UM, AND THEN ON THE VENUE SIDE, UM, IT'S STILL GONNA BE COMPLETELY OVER-PRESCRIBED, LIKE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS, UH, BUT WE NEED TO WAIT A YEAR AND SEE JUST HOW OVER-PRESCRIBED OR NOT OVER-PRESCRIBED.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT WILL BE A MILLION DOLLAR FUND WHEN BEFORE, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE VENUES WERE COMPETING WITH LOTS OF OTHER ART SPACES FOR THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
SO I WOULD PREFER TO WAIT A YEAR TO SEE HOW IT ALL SHAKES OUT TO SEE IF WE SHOULD PUT A RESTRICTION LIKE THAT, UH, ON THE VENUE SIDE OF IT.
UH, BECAUSE IF WE DO, IF THERE'S ENOUGH, UH, APPLICANTS, AND THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY DO THE SAME THING.
BUT JUST BASED ON WHAT WE LEARNED WITH, UH, THIS FIRST YEAR, IT WAS, IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF APPLICATIONS, AND WE WANNA MAKE IT MORE COMPETITIVE AND THE INVESTMENT MORE MEANINGFUL.
UM, COMMISSIONER GOLD, THANKS.
UM, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THIS UPDATE.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUPER CLEAR FROM, UH, LIKE FROM A MUSICIAN PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN NOW APPLY FOR THIS FUND, NOT FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT NECESSARILY, OR A SPECIFIC EVENT, UH, OR RECORDING PROJECT OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU CAN APPLY FOR IT TO JUST WORK ON WHATEVER YOUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT NEEDS ARE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SPECIFIC PROJECT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED ANECDOTALLY IS THINGS CHANGE IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS ALL THE TIME.
YOU CAN PUT FIVE HOLDS DOWN AND YOU'VE LOST ALL YOUR HOLD HOLDS FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD FROM A CONTRACT, UH, PERSPECTIVE TO TRY TO MANAGE THAT.
SO WE WANNA REALLY BACK UP AND LEAVE IT UP TO THE MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS AND THE VENUES TO DECIDE WHAT, WHERE THAT INVESTMENT IS MOST NEEDED.
THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY THOUGH, IS THAT REALLY AMAZING MARKETING PLAN, THAT TOURISM MARKETING PLAN FOR POTENTIAL TOURISTS AND CONVENTION DELEGATES.
SO ANYTHING, ANY ACTIVITY THAT'S PAID FOR HAS TO HAVE A REALLY STRONG MARKETING PLAN BECAUSE IN OUR BUSINESS, YOU CAN MARKET, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN TO GAIN A FAN BASE, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE JUST LIVE EVENTS.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY GONNA DOUBLE DOWN ON THE TRAINING AND THE SUPPORT FOR THE MARKETING SIDE.
WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THAT IS, THAT IS A GAME CHANGING UPDATE, UM, FOR THE MUSICIAN SIDE BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME, OFTENTIMES THERE'S THIS FINANCIAL BARRIER TO DO TO LIKE, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LEVELING UP ALL OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE DOCU GETTING REALLY GOOD DOCUMENTATION OF ALL OF YOUR BANDS AND, AND JUST REALLY CREATING THIS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HIRING SOME SOMEONE AMAZING LIKE ANNE CHARLOTTE TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, UM, GRAPHICS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE ASPECTS THAT WE ARE ALL JUST TRYING TO DO KIND OF OURSELVES ON THE CHEAP THAT WE NEED TO GROW, UM, AND GET TO A WIDER AUDIENCE.
UM, THERE'S SO, SO MANY TIMES THERE'S FINANCIAL BARRIERS TO US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, SO IF WE CAN USE THESE FUNDS FOR THAT TYPE OF THING AND, AND HELPING US TO, TO GROW AS ARTISTS SO THAT WE CAN THEN YEAH, PROVIDE THAT TOURISM, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THE RICHNESS THAT PE THE TOURISTS EXPECT TO SEE WHEN THEY COME TO TOWN.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S INCREDIBLE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE FOR A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK I KEPT HEARING, UM, IS THAT LIKE THE WAY THE, WITH IT BEING AN EVENT PROGRAM, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE LIKE, OKAY, SO NOW I HAVE TO LIKE, COME UP WITH THIS VERY SPECIAL THING
SO THAT'S REALLY, UM, THAT'S REALLY GREAT.
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THE COMMUNITY WILL, WILL BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.IT'S, UH, NOT UP TO THE CITY TO, UH, CURATE.
WE, WE SHOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD ADVISING THE CURATION OF LIKE, YOU SHOULD BE DOING THIS.
THIS IS TRUE INVESTMENT IN A MUSICIAN'S CAREER, A PROMOTER'S COMPANY, YOUR BUSINESS ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THE RIGHT WAY TO INVEST THESE FUNDS.
JUST REMEMBER, IT HAS TO HAVE A STRONG MARKETING PROMOTIONAL COMPONENT THAT HAS ANALYTICS ON THE BACKEND SO THAT WE REALLY CAN SHOW JUST HOW MUSIC CAN DRIVE TOURISM TO AUSTIN.
IT'S INCREDIBLY, UH, RICH, YOU KNOW, BACKEND, UH, DATA THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT IS KIND OF UNUSUAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER TYPES OF ARTS THAT HAVE USED HOT FUNDS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES.
UH, THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS A BIG DRIVER FOR TOURISM.
AND SO THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE MORE AND MORE OF THAT DATA TO, TO SHOW THAT THAT'S A CAUSE AND EFFECT.
COMMISSIONER GOLD, SORRY, ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT.
UM, AND APOLOGIES IF YOU ANSWERED THIS BEFORE, BUT, UM, WILL THERE BE SOME GUIDANCE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR MUSICIANS WHO APPLY, LIKE INDEPENDENT MUSICIANS WHO APPLY FOR THIS ON HOW TO STRUCTURE THEIR, UM, WORK SO THAT THEY CAN GET THOSE ANALYTICS AND SO THEY CAN GATHER THAT DATA? BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF US MIGHT GO, MIGHT, MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT, UM, MYSTIFIED BY HOW WE'RE GOING TO EXTRACT THAT FROM SO MANY THINGS THAT WE DO THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T END UP WITH THOSE KIND OF DATA.
WE HAVE A CLASS, NOT TICKETED SHOWS, AND LIKE LOTS OF DIFFERENT NEBULOUS THINGS.
WE HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT WE'VE WORKED OUT WITH VISIT AUSTIN.
SO IT'S A SUITE RIGHT NOW, A SUITE OF SIX CLASSES THAT EVERYONE TOOK.
SOME OF THEM TOOK A COUPLE TIMES.
UH, AND ONE OF THOSE IS ON THE BACKEND ANALYTICS, THE SEO OF HOW DO YOU OPTIMIZE WHAT YOU'RE DOING ONLINE AND THEN CAPTURING THAT DATA TO SHOW, UH, THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS WORKING, OR WHAT YOU'RE DOING ISN'T WORKING, SO YOU CAN RESTRUCTURE IT, REFOCUS THOSE DOLLARS.
SO IT'S GREAT TO HAVE ACTUAL MONEY TO PUT BEHIND A MARKETING PLAN, SEE HOW IT'S PERFORMING, AND THEN YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE MIDSTREAM TO MAKE IT DO SOMETHING THAT IT SHOULD BE DOING IF IT'S NOT GETTING YOU WHAT YOU NEED.
UH, AND SO YES, THERE ARE CLASSES TO TEACH ARTISTS, MUSICIANS, ALL, EVERYBODY HOW TO DO THAT.
AND WILL THEY BE OFFERED, UM, MULTIPLE TIMES, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES I'LL, I'LL EVEN FIND OUT ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL BE LIKE, I WISH I COULD MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IT HAPPENS ONE TIME AND THEN IT'S GONE, SO, OH, YEAH.
I MEAN, THE FIRST CLASS IS RECORDED, IT'S LIVE, IT'S ON ZOOM, AND THEN IT'S PUT ONTO A PORTAL THAT VISIT AUSTIN PROVIDES TO US, AND YOU CAN WATCH IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT.
COMMISSIONER GOUL, UH, ERICA, VERY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THE CHANGES, UH, AND THAT IT'S NOT, UH, PROJECT CENTRIC ANYMORE.
UH, ACTUALLY, UH, LOOKS INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT A MUSICIAN IS PUTTING IN DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
AND I WOULD THINK A LOT OF THIS, EVEN THOUGH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S CATEGORIZED AS A DIFFERENT SET OF QUESTIONS ARE FAIRLY, UM, ABSOLUTE, ABSOLUTE, UM, MARK, YOU KNOW, UH, MARKS KIND OF QUESTIONS, RIGHT? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT A, SOME SUBJECTIVITY TO IT, BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY, UH, UH, TO THIS AND JUST, JUST SUPER EXCITED YES.
I THINK, UH, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, UH, THE INDUSTRY, MUSIC INDUSTRY, HAVING SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS OF BRANDING AND, UH, BEING ABLE TO SHOW ANALYTICS ONLINE NOW, UM, IS, IS, IS, IS GOING TO BE FANTASTIC.
I THINK DEFINITELY WE, THAT TRAINING NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE TO MUSICIANS.
BUT, UM, I THINK GIVING SOME KIND OF AN EDUCATION, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT AVAILABLE AROUND, UH, EVEN, EVEN SOME NOTES AROUND THAT, THIS HAS TAX IMPLICATIONS.
UM, AND, AND TO KEEP THAT MONEY ASIDE RIGHT FROM, FROM THE FUNDS, I THINK WOULD BE GREAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE I DID GET A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AROUND THAT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.
WE'RE JUST MAKING THAT, UH, 'CAUSE WE MADE THAT, UH, PEOPLE AWARE IN THE APPLICATION, OKAY, DON'T FORGET.
BUT WE, I WAS LIKE, WE NEED TO PUT THAT FRONT AND CENTER.
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
IT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF AT THE BEGINNING WITH THE OTHER ATTESTATIONS OF YOU UNDERSTAND THIS AND THEN CLICK OFF.
AND WITH OUR NEW SYSTEM, IT'S GONNA BE A LOT EASIER TO KIND OF MAKE THAT MORE USER FRIENDLY AND ADAPT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT KIND OF SINKS IN MORE.
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AND THEN, UH, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LONG CENTER, WITH CREATE AUSTIN AND THEIR NEW WEBSITE AND THE CREATIVE CONSORTIUM THERE, OUR, OUR OUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE LONG CENTER TO BRING ON, YOU KNOW, VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS TO HELP WITH TRAINING AROUND TAX LIABILITIES OF WHAT THIS COULD DO.THE CITY CAN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, BUT THERE IS CERTAINLY, UM, CLASSES, UH, WITH THE TEXAS ACCOUNTANTS AND LAWYERS FOR THE ARTS THAT THEY VERY, VERY MUCH DO A VERY SPECIFIC CLASS ABOUT THIS, ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL OF THE FEDERAL FUNDING WITH THE PANDEMIC.
AND SO, UM, THERE ARE RESOURCES AVAILABLE, BUT WE WANNA BE SURE THAT WE PUT THAT UPFRONT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING AND THEN THROUGH THE LONG CENTER, PROVIDE THOSE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES IN A VERY EASY WAY.
SO, UH, BA SO, SO MOSTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE BASED ON SOME KIND OF MARKETING PLAN THAT'S GONNA DRIVE TOURISM TO AUSTIN.
SO IF I AM GOING IN THE STUDIO AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, A 25, $30,000 PROJECT TO GO IN THE STUDIO, I MEAN, I'M KIND OF LIKE IN THIS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M IN THE STUDIO BASICALLY, AND I'M NOT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, I'M BUILDING THIS THING, AND, AND PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE THE MONEY EARMARKED FOR BEING IN THE STUDIO AND DOING THAT.
AND SO NOW IT'S KINDA LIKE THIS, THIS OPEN GARDEN SORT OF THING WHERE WE CAN USE THE MONEY WHERE WE NEED TO, WHICH IS, I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING.
BUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW DOES IT WORK FROM, FROM, FROM A MARKETING PERSPECTIVE, IF I'M SAYING I'M, I'M IN THE STUDIO AND I'M, YOU KNOW, POURING MY HEART AND SOUL ON THIS RECORD AND THE RELEASE DATES TO BE DETERMINED KIND OF THING, WHEN IT'S GONNA TAKE MAYBE A COUPLE OF YEARS TO, TO MM-HMM.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE, THIS IS A TRAINING OPPORTUNITY FOR MUSICIANS TO BUILD THEIR CAREERS.
AND HOW CAN YOU, YOU JUST CAN'T, LIKE GO INTO A K FOR TWO YEARS.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP ENGAGING WITH YOUR FANS SURE.
IN ORDER TO NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, STAY CONNECTED WITH YOUR CURRENT FANS, BUT TO BUILD YOUR FAN BASE.
AND SO THERE ARE STRATEGIES FOR, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME VIDEOS WHILE YOU'RE IN THE STUDIO AND A LITTLE SNIP, BUT HERE'S A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, SNAPSHOT OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT.
UH, AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO CREATE CREATIVE, INTERESTING CONTENT AROUND THE PRODUCTION ELEMENT AND THEN DO A DIGITAL SPEND TO, TO PUSH THAT OUT.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS SEE THEIR ENGAGEMENT CONTINUE TO GROW, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT PLAYING SHOWS OR, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY OUT THERE TOURING OR PLAYING SHOWS.
AND THERE ARE CREATIVE WAYS TO DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, AS WE LOOK AT THIS MARKETING TRAINING, THAT'S, WE WILL GO INTO SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF IDEAS, CONCEPTS.
I MEAN, IT DEFINITELY FITS WITH KIND OF WHERE, HOW YOUNG PEOPLE TOO ARE, UH, GETTING CONTENT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS THAT USE SHORT FORM CONTENT.
AND SO YOU'VE, IF YOU WANNA KEEP BUILDING YOUR CAREER AND GAIN MORE AUDIENCE AND SPREAD THE WORD OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE WITH THOSE TYPES OF MARKETING, UM, YOU KNOW, PLANS AND BACK IT UP WITH SOME MONEY, UH, BECAUSE IT KEEPS YOU OUT THERE AND IT KEEPS PEOPLE KIND OF INTERESTED IN YOU AND, AND CONNECTING WITH YOU.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT CONNECTION ALIVE WHILE YOU'RE STILL IN THE STUDIO.
UH, SO WE WE'RE RAISING THE GRANT AMOUNT FROM, FROM FIVE TO 10 TO 15 TO 30, WHICH IS GOING TO, WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT'S SET, IS GOING TO CREATE MORE COMPETITION AND FEWER APPLICANT AWARDEES.
THIS IS NEEDS TO BE A MORE, A, A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE FOR FOLKS TO REALLY GET THEIR CAREERS TO GROW.
UM, IF WE, WE'VE SPREAD OUT THE MONEY.
AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM THAT IS NOT ONLY THE FRUSTRATIONS, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, THROUGH JUST HAS TO BE A CERTAIN PROJECT, UM, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE ENOUGH MONEY.
UM, THESE ARE EXPENSIVE PRODUCTIONS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR MUSIC, UH, FOR YOUR CAREER TO GROW AS A MUSICIAN, TO GET THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE RECORDS OUT THERE AND PROMOTED.
UH, SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD INVESTMENT.
AND IF YOU'RE KIND OF MORE, YOU KNOW, STARTING OUT THAT 15,000 MAY BE A MORE COMFORTABLE PLACE FOR YOU TO SAY, WELL, I CAN FIGURE OUT, I COULD USE IT, THIS, THIS, THIS, AND MARKET IT THIS WAY.
WE, AND THEN WE KNOW THERE'S A TON OF MUSICIANS THAT, LIKE 30 GRAND, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD DO.
AND SO WE NEED TO SERVE BOTH SIDES, HAVE IT BE A MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT IN THESE SMALL BUSINESSES, IN OUR CREATIVE BUSINESSES HERE IN AUSTIN, SO THAT WE REALLY CAN DO WHAT MAYOR ADLER AND THE COUNCIL WHO ESTABLISHED A LIVE MUSIC FUND INTENDED, WHICH WAS INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT, MUSIC SECTOR DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'RE, IT'S NOT JUST LIVE MUSIC, IT'S A MUSIC CITY THAT WE ARE A MUSIC CITY.
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YOU.IF I MAY, UM, I, I THINK, UM, THE, THE IDEA OF SPREADING THIS OVER TWO YEARS KIND OF ALLEVIATES SOME CONCERN THERE IN THAT, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NO LONGER JUST LIMITED TO ONE YEAR.
I THINK IT ADDRESSES YOUR OTHER CONCERN THAT YOU HAD EARLIER EXPRESSED, UH, IN, IN THE EARLIER COMMISSION MEETING IS AROUND, YOU KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR SOMEBODY TO NECESSARILY FINISH THE PROJECT WITHIN THE YEAR? AND IT KIND OF GIVES THEM MORE LEEWAY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST OPTIMALLY USE THE FUNDS PERHAPS.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF ALLEVIATES SOME OF THAT THE SAME APPLICANT CANNOT GET THE GRANT IN THE IMMEDIATE YET NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND ALSO I THINK THE IDEA HERE IS NOT TO NOT HAVE A PLAN AT ALL.
I THINK IT IS ALLOWING, UM, UM, SOMEONE TO PLAN ON HOW TO USE THE FUNDS AND LET IT EVOLVE AS THEIR CAREER NEEDS EVOLVE THROUGH THE YEAR, TWO YEARS, UM, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO DETERMINE RIGHT ON TOP.
PERHAPS THAT'S THE WAY I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IT.
UM, BECAUSE IF IT NEEDS A, A TOURISM MARKETING PLAN, YOU STILL NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING CONCRETE TO MARKET.
AND IT COULD BE THREE OR FOUR OF THESE ELEMENTS OR ONE OF THESE ELEMENTS, BUT, UM, THAT'S HOW I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW.
AND JUST AS A REMINDER, LIKE LAST TIME WE'LL BE ASKING PEOPLE, HOW ARE YOU GONNA SPEND THESE FUNDS AT THE APPLICATION? SO THEY HAVE THREE TOUCH POINTS TO KEEP THEM ON, CHECK WITH THEIR BUDGET.
HOW DO YOU PLAN TO SPEND THIS 30,000? AND SO YOU WE'RE NOT GONNA TIE YOU TO THAT.
WE JUST WANT YOU TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN WITH THE PROGRESS REPORT, 'CAUSE THEN YOU'LL GET YOUR FIRST 50% WITH EXECUTION, AND THEN WITH THE PROGRESS REPORT, WE WILL ASK LIKE, BEFORE, HOW DID YOU SPEND IT? HOW ARE YOU GONNA SPEND THE NEXT 40%? DO YOU NEED HELP, UH, TO KIND OF RECONNECT WITH PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM ON TRACK? UH, WE JUST WANNA BE, AND THEN THIS TIME WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, THIS IS WHAT I SAID, MY APPLICATION, THIS IS WHAT I REPORTED IN MY PROGRESS REPORT, AND THIS IS WHERE I AM FOR THE FINAL REPORT.
UH, TO MAKE IT MUCH EASIER FOR THE AWARDEE TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO, WHAT THEY'VE DECIDED TO DO INSTEAD, BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE.
UM, AND YOU LEARN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS TRAINING AND YOU HAVE THIS COHORT AND YOU HAVE SUPPORT, YOU, UH, THE IDEA THAT YOU HAD AT APPLICATION COULD EVOLVE WONDERFULLY, UH, IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
AND WE WANNA MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN, WHEN WE'RE VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS.
[6. Update on SXSW Fair Pay by Aaron Lack, Austin Federation of Musicians Local.]
UH, TIME CHECK.WE ARE AT 8:15 PM UM, MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE HAVE ABOUT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, PROBABLY SIX.
SIX ITEMS, UM, UPDATE ON SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST FAIR PAY BY AARON LACK, AUSTIN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS LOCAL, MR. LACK.
UH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK.
UM, YEAH, I'M AARON LACK, UH, PRESIDENT AUSTIN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS, UH, UH, AMERICAN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS, LOCAL 4 33, UH, HERE IN AUSTIN.
UM, YEAH, I HAVE A BIT OF AN UPDATE.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF UPDATE FROM THE ACTUAL FESTIVAL, OF COURSE.
UM, THE, THE ROOT CAUSE OF, OF THE PROBLEM, UH, REMAINS.
UH, THERE, THERE'S STILL NO MEANINGFUL COMMUNICATION, UH, WITH MUSICIANS AND THE FESTIVAL, UH, AT THIS POINT.
UM, THE, THE MANAGERIAL AND, AND PR BLUNDERS, UM, COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST THAT WE SAW THIS YEAR.
UH, IF IT WAS IN FACT IN COMMUNICATION AND OR NEGOTIATIONS WITH MUSICIANS, UH, THEY, THEY COULD HAVE FOUND OUT HOW MUSICIANS WERE FEELING A LOT FASTER, UH, IN A LOT MORE, UH, IN, IN A LOT MORE CONSTRUCTIVE WAY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, UM, AUSTIN FOR PALESTINE, UH, FEELINGS AND, AND ALSO THE, JUST THE, THE GENERAL COMPENSATION OF THE FESTIVAL, UH, AS WELL, WHICH ARE THE MAIN FACTORS WITH THE, UH, GROUPS DROPPING OUT THIS YEAR? OF COURSE, I'M SURE Y'ALL HEARD ABOUT.
SO THAT, THAT'S, UH, NOT, NOT A LOT HAS CHANGED THERE.
UH, WE, WE HAVE HAD, UH, A BIT OF AN UPDATE FROM, UM, THE ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
AND THAT WAS THE FIRST UPDATE, UH, SINCE ABOUT SEPTEMBER.
UM, SO, UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, THERE, THERE WAS NOT REALLY, UH, A LOT OF ENCOURAGING NEWS ON THAT END.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ENCOURAGING NEWS ON OUR END, OF COURSE, WITH THE MUSICIANS.
UM, I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS, UH, DURING THE FESTIVAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE AFMS BEEN BUILDING COMMUNICATIONS WITH, WITH ALL SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST MUSICIANS, UM, THROUGH JUST BASIC DATA COLLECTION, BUT ALSO TALKING WITH THEM, WHICH IS THE MAIN, THE MAIN THING THAT WE DO.
UM, UH, WE, WE WERE OUT TABLING AND LEAFLETING,
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UH, DURING THE, DURING THE FESTIVAL, UH, AT, AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, UH, OFF OFF FESTIVAL EVENTS, AND THEN ACTUALLY IN THE FESTIVAL WITH, WITH STREET TEAMS. UM, WE DID THAT IN COLLABORATION WITH, UH, SOUND EXCHANGE, WITH WHICH YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT THE A FM HELPED CREATE TO, TO ADMINISTER, UH, ROYALTIES ON NON-INTERACTIVE STREAMING, UH, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.UM, AND, UH, AND ALSO WITH THE MUSIC FIRST COALITION, WHO ARE THE, UM, THE, OH, WHAT SHOULD I SAY? UH, THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, SUPPORTING THE, THE AMERICAN MUSIC FAIRNESS ACT, WHICH YOU MAY BE AWARE OF, HAS TO DO WITH, UH, UH, RADIO RESIDUALS IN THE UNITED STATES, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT PAID FOR, FOR PERFORMANCES IN THE UNITED STATES.
UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
SO THE AFM IS PART OF THAT COALITION AS WELL.
UH, THEY WERE WITH US ON THE STREET, UM, UH, DURING THE FESTIVAL, UM, TALKING WITH MUSICIANS DIRECTLY.
UM, AND THAT WAS A GOOD TIME, AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE PHOTOS.
UM, SO, UH, LET'S SEE, THE TRAVELING MUSICIANS, OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY, OF COURSE, AS, AS WE HAVE DONE THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN YEARS, THE TRAVELING MUSICIANS WE'VE, WE'VE COME INTO CONTACT WITH, WE TRY TO PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH THEIR LOCAL UNIONS, WHERE THEY'RE FROM, OF COURSE.
UH, AND IN THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA, THOSE ARE A FM LOCAL OFFICES.
UM, BUT IN, UH, IN, YOU KNOW, THE UK IT'S THE, THE MU UH, AND IN CONTINENTAL EUROPE, IT'S, UH, THE FIM, FIM.
UH, AND THEN, UH, UH, WE WERE IN TOUCH WITH, UH, SOME, SOME OF THE UNION MEMBERS FROM, UH, RIO DE JANEIRO, UM, IN BRAZIL.
AND, UH, SEVERAL OTHER COUNTRIES, UM, HAVE BURGEONING MUSICIANS, UNIONS, UH, AUSTRALIA AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT, THAT WAS ENCOURAGING.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? UM, WE ARE HAVING A MEMBERSHIP DRIVE HERE IN AUSTIN.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING WITH OUR LOCAL MUSICIANS ABOUT.
SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, SCHEDULING YOUR MEETING TO COINCIDE WITH THE BEGINNING OF OUR MEMBERSHIP DRIVE.
BUT, UH, WE DO REALLY DO APPRECIATE BEING INVITED TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY.
UM, AND, UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT MEMBERSHIP DRIVE, UH, BEGINS TODAY AND RUNS THROUGH THE END OF JUNE.
UM, AND IT, UH, BASICALLY WAIVES ALL THE INITIATION FEES, UH, FOR ANYONE JOINING LOCAL 4 33 HERE IN AUSTIN, UM, UH, THROUGH, THROUGH THESE THREE MONTHS.
UM, AND THAT, THAT SAVES, UH, A NEW MEMBER OF THE UNION, UH, ABOUT $105 IN FEES.
UM, SO IT'S A GOOD TIME TO JOIN, UH, FOR SURE.
UM, WHAT ELSE HERE? UM, IT, IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION, UM, TALKING WITH SEVERAL FOLKS FROM, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL AND, AND OTHER CITY OFFICES, UH, THAT, THAT THE, UH, THE CITY PAY OR THE CITY PAY SCALE THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE MEETING TODAY, AND THAT REALLY WAS THE RESULT OF YOUR WORK HERE.
UM, IT, IT'S BEING REFERRED TO IN SOME PARTS OF THE CITY AS A PREMIUM RATE.
AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT, THAT THAT'S REALLY A PROBLEM FOR US.
'CAUSE IT'S REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A MINIMUM RATE, UH, NOT A PREMIUM RATE.
AND SO WE, WE'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT AND, AND I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT, UM, SO THAT YOU COULD COMMUNICATE THAT UP TO YOUR, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DETAIL THERE.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT A PREMIUM RATE.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A, IT'S A, SHOULD BE A MINIMUM RATE.
IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MINIMUM, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, YEAH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WORD SALAD THERE.
UH, YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE, ALL THE WORK Y'ALL ARE DOING.
THE, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE, THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT EVEN.
UM, UH, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIGHTING FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR PROFESSION AS MUSICIANS HERE AS WELL.
UM, AND SO IN THE CONTEXT OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS AS WELL, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, GRANTS ARE, ARE AMAZING AND, AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THEM HERE ARE, IS REALLY AMAZING AS WELL.
BUT THEY, THEY CAN'T BE A SUBSTITUTE FOR BEING PAID BY OUR ACTUAL EMPLOYERS, UM, IN MUSIC.
AND THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S SORT OF EATING AWAY AT OUR PROFESSION, UH, IS, IS OUR, IS IS IS THAT ISSUE.
SO, UM, WE, WE, WE INTEND TO OF COURSE, FOCUS ON THAT, UH, AS WELL.
AND I JUST WANNA FINISH IT WITH A, WITH A REAL QUICK REMINDER THAT, UH, NEA AND NEH, THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS AND NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES, THE, THE FUNDING FROM THOSE SOURCES, UH, ALREADY, ALREADY REQUIRES MEETING PREVAILING WAGE STANDARDS.
UM, SO THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY PLACES IN OUR CITY TO APPLY THAT AS WELL.
AND I, I'D LOVE TO, UH, DISCUSS FURTHER ON THAT AS WELL.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT ON THE SOUTHWEST, SOUTHWEST FAIR PAY INITIATIVE, UH, WHICH IS NOT, NOT OUR, OUR WORD, OUR, UH, UH, TITLE FOR IT, BUT, UH, UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
SO THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
UM, MS. PEDRO CARVALLO, I JUST REALLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOU TRYING YOUR BEST TO UNIFY AND STRENGTHEN THE VOICE OF MUSICIANS THROUGHOUT.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT'D BE COOL TO KNOW WHERE YOU COULD GO TO JOIN THE THIS
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UNION.SINCE TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE, THE DRIVE, I, I WOULD LOVE TO IMPART THAT INFORMATION.
UH, THE, THE, THE WEBSITE IS, UH, ONLY SIX CHARACTERS.
IT'S AFM FOUR THREE THREE.COM.
UM, AND THAT, THAT HAS A, A MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION RIGHT ON IT.
UM, OUR OFFICE IS DOWN ON EAST BEND WHITE, UM, AND A AND A, A BIG BUILDING THAT SAYS IBEW ON IT.
UH, WE RENT OUR OFFICE FROM THE, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT.
IT'S VERY EASY TO SPOT ON THE WESTBOUND SIDE OF, UH, BEN WHITE BOULEVARD.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? SO, UH, WHAT'S THE, YOU SAY YOU WERE COLLECTING SIGNATURES AT, AT, AT SOUTH, BUT CAN YOU RUN US THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE? SURE.
UH, I, WE WEREN'T COLLECTING SIGNATURES.
WE WERE, WE WERE COLLECTING, UH, YEAH.
AND, AND, UH, SOME OTHER DATA AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE WEREN'T ACTUALLY COLLECTING SIGNATURES ON ANY PARTICULAR THING OKAY.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY PUBLICLY RIGHT NOW, BUT OKAY.
BUT THERE, THERE WERE A LOT OF MUSICIANS THERE, AS YOU KNOW,
AND IT WAS, IT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT ENVIRONMENT TO TALK WITH MUSICIANS FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE, UM, WHICH IS ALWAYS GREAT, SO.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. LACK.
THANKS FOR, UH, COMING AND SHARING YOUR, APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.
THE NEXT, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATION ON BAAM MU FESTIVAL BY CIRCUIT OF THE AMERICAS REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ON IT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS, UH, SO WE'LL MOVE PAST, YEAH, WE CHECK IN.
UM, SAME WITH THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, DISCUSSION ON BOOKING FOR LIVE MUSIC VENUES.
UM, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? WE DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER ON THIS, UH, TODAY.
WE'LL MOVE PAST TO THE NEXT ONE.
[9. Update on Downtown Commission recommendations to council on Red River Cultural District Funding and Convention Center expansion community oversight, by Vice Chair Patterson.]
UH, UPDATE ON DOWNTOWN COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT FUNDING AND CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION, COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT BY VICE CHAIR PATTERSON.UH, SO I'M THE MUSIC COMMISSION LIAISON TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.
AND, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS FOR ME TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM UPDATES ABOUT THINGS THAT WE DO THAT ALIGN WITH, UM, THEIR MISSION AS A COMMISSION.
AND, UH, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'VE TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT RECENTLY ARE THE, UM, THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED.
THEY ALSO PASSED, UM, A SIMILAR RESOLUTION.
SO THEY SUPPORTED OUR WORK ON THAT.
AND THEY ALSO, UM, ARE RECOMMENDING FUNDING FOR THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT.
AND, UH, THE DIFFERENCE IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION FROM OURS IS THAT THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT AS A FISCAL YEAR, UM, 24, 25 BUDGET ITEM, AND THEY SPECIFIED A DOLLAR AMOUNT BETWEEN 120,000 TO 300,000.
AND THEN WE WILL, UM, I'M GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT'S COME OUT OF THE, UH, IN A LITTLE BIT THAT'S COME OUT OF THE LAND USE WORKING GROUP, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALSO BEEN DISCUSSED AT DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.
AND, UH, I WILL ALSO BE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT, UH, THE CULTURAL COMBINING DISTRICT, UH, ZONING THAT, UH, DON JACKSON TALKED WITH US ABOUT TODAY.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PATTERSON FOR THE INFORMATION, FOR THE UPDATE.
UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS? UH, YEAH, I DO.
MR. STRICKLAND, UH, I DO HAVE A, UH, QUESTION.
WHAT, WHAT, UH, UM, GOOD TO SEE YOU, BY THE WAY.
MM-HMM,
SO, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.
THAT'S A QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ASKED.
UM, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, UH, WAS VERY DIRECTLY ASKED THAT OF THE, THE, THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION, AND I DON'T THINK WE GOT REALLY AN ANSWER
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AHEAD, LAUREN.WELL, I HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT MY NOTES FROM THAT MEETING 'CAUSE IT WAS A WHILE AGO.
UM, AND WE SHOULD, MAYBE WE SHOULD CHECK BACK IN.
UM, BUT AT THE TIME SHE WAS PRETTY, SHE, SHE SEEMED PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IT WAS NOT GONNA BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED.
SO FROM MY MEMORY OF THAT CONVERSATION, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NO ONE CAN KNOW ANY OF THOSE THINGS 100%.
UM, BUT, UH, I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY NOTES AGAIN AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH HER AGAIN AND CHECK IN TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE LOOKING NOW.
BUT, UM, SHE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE WORRIED ABOUT IT.
UM, OR THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT IT.
UM, FROM MY RECOLLECTION, AGAIN, THAT WAS A WHILE AGO,
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN LIKE A SPECIFIC REPORT RELEASED GIVING FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS ON THE IMPACT ON HOT FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER CLOSURE.
UM, THERE IS A, I THINK A PLAN TO LEVERAGE SOME OTHER SPACES AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER, SOME OF THE HOTEL SPACE AND SO ON FOR CONVENTION, YOU KNOW, SMALLER CONVENTION ACTIVITIES.
UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT ON SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST IS GONNA BE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE, AS WE'VE SEEN FROM THE HOT COLLECTIONS THAT COME IN LIKE THAT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE NOT AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK.
IT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT'S ALL GONNA PLAY OUT.
BUT I WOULD SAY ONE THING I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR US AS A MUSIC COMMISSION, I DO FEEL LIKE MUSIC, UH, IS SUCH A STRONG TOURISM DRIVER AND IS IF THE CITY CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT MUSIC IN A ROBUST WAY, THAT THAT IN TURN SUPPORTS, UM, TOURISM, WHICH IN TURN AGAIN SUPPORTS, UH, THE HOT ELECTION.
[10. Update on live musical performances for Music Commission meetings by Shelbi Mitchell, Program Coordinator, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]
THE NEXT STAGE ITEM IS UPDATE ON LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES FOR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS BY SHELBY MITCHELL, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, EDD.Y'ALL LOOK REALLY GOOD UP THERE.
SHELBY MITCHELL, PROJECT COORDINATOR, PROGRAM COORDINATOR OF MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.
I HAVE A FEW UPDATES, UM, REGARDING THE RECORDINGS AND THE TAPINGS FOR MUSIC COMMISSION.
WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL DATE FOR THAT.
THIS WILL BE OUR TEST AND TRIAL RUN JUST TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
WE HOPE TO, IN THE FUTURE, FIT LIKE MORE THAN ONE BAND IN.
BUT WE WANNA TIME EVERYTHING AND GET SITUATED WITH THIS FIRST ONE.
SO, UH, SHOUT OUT TO COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
WE HAVE OUR FIRST ARTIST, ELIJAH DELGADO.
UM, SO WE'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON THE PROGRESS AND THE PROCESS OF IT ALL.
WE HOPE TO HAVE IT COMPLETED BEFORE SUMMER, BUT I'LL BE SURE TO GIVE YOU UPDATES ON HOW THAT'S GOING.
UM, I'M STILL TAKING, UM, EXCUSE ME, ARTISTS TO INCLUDE.
I HAVE ABOUT FIVE COMMISSIONERS I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ON WHO THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERFORM.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WE NEED TO CONSIDER A NAME FOR THIS AND I WOULD GIVE THAT TO Y'ALL.
IT SOUNDS LIKE AN ACTION ITEM NOW THAT I BRING IT UP.
BUT, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT
AND HE WAS LIKE, WELL, IS THERE A NAME FOR THIS? I WAS, I JUST BEEN CALLING IT MU MUSIC COMMISSION, THINGS IN MY FOLDER,
I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET THAT UP BEFORE.
AND SO MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH.
'CAUSE IT'LL BE LIKE RECORDED THEN, AND POSSIBLY NOT EVEN PUT, I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE READY TO PUT IT OUT.
SO WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO SLAP A NAME ON IT.
SO CONSIDER THAT, UM, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE CALLED.
UH, BUT THAT'S EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE RECORDINGS.
AND THEN I'LL BE MOVING ON TO THE LIVE MUSIC EVENT IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT PROJECT.
UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COMMERS, IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THE PROGRESS.
UM, COMMISSIONER CASADA, I HAVE A, UM, AN ARTIST IN MIND THAT I WANTED TO ASK, UM, IF THEY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE.
UM, IS THERE A WORKING DOCUMENT OF SOMETHING THAT I COULD SCOOT OVER TO AN ARTIST? I THINK WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT LIKE, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE ASKING THESE MUSICIANS KIND OF A UNIVERSAL ASK OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU'LL GET PAID.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS FOR, THIS IS WHAT THIS MEANS, THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IT, SINCE YOU
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HAVE THE FIRST ARTIST, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD SHARE, LIKE, WHAT WAS, UM, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE CASUAL.BUT I THINK FOR ME, I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF THERE'S LIKE A ONE PAGE SHEET THAT WE COULD GIVE TO JUST SAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU'LL GET PAID.
THIS IS, THESE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES, OR TIME, DATES, LENGTH OF SHOW.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INVOLVED WITH.
AND ALSO FOR OUR, WE'RE GOING THROUGH LICENSING AND HOW TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
WE'LL NEED SIGNATURES REGARDLESS.
I THINK A ONE PAGER OR JUST AN EXPLANATION IS GONNA BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.
I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE INFORMATION.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TAKE A STAB AT IT, I CAN SEND SOME THINGS BACK AND FORTH.
UM, BUT WE CAN USE IT MOVING FORWARD AND IT'LL INFORM THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.
A TXN ALREADY HAS LIKE A FORM THAT I CAN SHARE WITH Y'ALL AS WELL TO SEE IF THAT WORKS.
BUT THERE IS A RATE THAT WE WILL BE PAYING MUSICIANS.
AND WE CAN EASILY JUST SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
WE WAS ALMOST GOING TO VOLUNTEER.
AND WE'RE STILL, UM, I MEET WITH, UH, BURTON FROM A TXN TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO GO LOGISTICALLY, BUT AS FAR AS THE PRODUCTION DESIGN, THAT'S THEM, WE'RE GIVING THEM THAT.
UM, THEY, THEY'LL MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, ALL THE OTHER DETAILS, IF Y'ALL CAN INFORM THAT, UM, I'M JUST HERE TO COORDINATE AND MOVE IN BETWEEN AND GIVE WHAT, WHATEVER INFORMATION IS NECESSARY FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
BUT I WILL, LIKE I SAID, I'LL COORDINATE WITH SCOTT.
COORDINATE WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH SO WE CAN GET THIS READY FOR APRIL 11TH.
AND SO, LIVE MUSIC EVENT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING FOR.
A SPECIAL MEETING IS WHAT IT WILL BE.
UM, I HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S OPEN TO, UM, PARTNERING WITH COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND ON FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN BRING THIS TO LIFE.
UH, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY,
UM, THERE IS POSSIBLE, WE COULD HAVE TWO EVENTS THIS YEAR, BUT THE POOL OF MONEY WILL BE SMALLER AS YOU BREAK THOSE INTO.
BUT IF WE DO ONE, THE POOL OF MONEY OBVIOUSLY WILL DOUBLE.
UM, AND I'LL COORDINATE WITH WHOEVER IS WORKING ON THAT TO PROVIDE AND PAY FOR WHOEVER IS INVOLVED.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE COME IN CITY TO PAY FOLKS, BUT ALSO INFORM YOU ON A BUDGET.
BUT AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ELSE HAVE AT IT, LIKE TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS FOR.
I'M GONNA BE GATHERING WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT Y'ALL HAVE DISCUSSED TODAY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I'M AVAILABLE TO COORDINATE AND ALSO PAY FOLKS AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, I KNOW, UH, COMM, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHOME OFFERED HIS SPACE TO BIPOC ARTISTS.
MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER UP TO ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE FIT IN THAT VENUE.
BUT THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION I'VE HAD THUS FAR.
UM, AND COMMISSIONERS, I'M LISTENING TO Y'ALL AND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.
WE COULD, I MEAN, AT, AT I I MEAN, MAYBE JUST DOING ONE EVENT WOULD BE GOOD.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THAT AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE GOOD.
HOWEVER, UM, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF JUST RUN POINT ON THAT AND I SERVE, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE, THAT WE NEED TO DO.
WE COULD JUST TALK ABOUT IT OR SOMETHING.
OR WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT NOW SINCE WE'RE ALL HERE.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I THINK A LOT OF THE DETAILS WE'VE ALL AGREED ON THAT WE'D, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SELECT SOME, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME LIVE MUSIC, HAVE IT POSSIBLY AT THE, YOU KNOW, AN EVENT AT, AT, UH, COMMISSIONER MAHOME SPACE OR AT THE LIBRARY ROOFTOP.
SO, I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE AN ARGUMENT FOR TWO EVENTS.
'CAUSE THOSE ARE TWO GREAT SPACES.
UM, SO, AND IT DOES HAVE TO BE, UM, SO LOGISTICALLY IT DOES HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
UM, AND I THINK WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO ONE A QUARTER.
IS THAT, IS THAT RIGHT? I CAN LOOK INTO IT.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T ONE YET? CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO MARCH, BUT WE COULD DO TWO EVENTS IN THE YEAR AND HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
IF WE ALSO, WE MIGHT ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WITH ARTS WITH ARTS IF WE DO ANOTHER JOINT RETREAT.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT WE'D HAVE TO CO COORDINATE.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO I THINK SCOTT, I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL AND WE CAN WORK OUT SOME OF THE FINE DETAILS AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, WE CAN GET EVERYBODY'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS AND HOPEFULLY APPROVAL ON IT.
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OKAY, COOL.I, I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE'S NO, NO, NO KEG STANDS OR DRINKING OR NO.
YOU DO A KEG STAND, IT JUST CAN'T HAVE BEER ON IT.
FOR AESTHETIC OPTICS, COMM, COMMISSIONER CAR MIGHT BE BAD AS WELL.
OH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION 'CAUSE I'M NEW.
UM, DOES THAT, IF IT'S A MEETING, DOES THAT MEAN IT HAS TO BE OVER BY 10? NO, NO.
IT'S LIMIT ON I, I WOULD BE AFRAID.
I'M AFRAID TO TELL YOU WHAT THE RULES ARE AROUND THAT.
SO I, YOU CAN GO OVER, UM, IF Y'ALL ALL AGREED ON IT, AND I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY WE NEED TO DO, BUT IN REAL LIFE, IN REAL TIME, THIS MEETING COULD GO OVER 10 IF Y'ALL AGREED TO THAT.
SO I CAN, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO THE SPECIAL MEETING AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
I JUST WANTED, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE FOR, UM, UM, SHELBY HERE FROM THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, GETTING ALL THIS WORK DONE.
[11. Discussion regarding all ages shows and how the City of Austin supports youth in Austin.]
ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION REGARDING ALL AGE ISSUES AND HOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN SUPPORTS YOUTH IN AUSTIN.UH, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION WHETHER THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA OR NOT.
SHALL WE CONFIRMED THAT THIS WAS INDEED ON THE AGENDA THIS TIME? UH, ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, CASADA? ANY COMMENTS ON IT? I THINK THERE'S A VERY SMALL UPDATE.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, OKAY.
THE, UM, THE, I, I THINK SOME OF IT IS JUST LIKE, UM, INFORMATION GATHERING OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I, UM, RECENTLY GOT IN TOUCH WITH A COLLEAGUE, UM, THAT I WAS IN THE ALL A TX LEADERSHIP CLASS TOGETHER WITH, UM, SUSAN THOMPSON.
AND SHE'S, UM, AVAILABLE TO COME SPEAK, UM, TO THE COMMISSION, UH, ABOUT THE WORK THAT SHE'S BEEN DOING REGARDING A PROGRAM CALLED WE LOVE AUSTIN MUSIC WEEK, UM, THAT FOCUSES ON, UM, PROGRAMMING FOR KIDS.
AND SO THE, UH, THE, WE LOVE AUSTIN MEET, UH, WEEK, UM, 2024 SUMMARY WAS, THIS WAS YEAR THREE OF PRO OF THE PROGRAM THROUGH THE TEXAS CULTURAL TRUST.
UM, THEY HAD 12 SCHOOLS PARTICIPATE ACROSS A ISD, DELL VALLEY, ISD AND SISD.
THEY HAD THEIR FIRST HIGH SCHOOL, UH, PARTICIPATE THIS YEAR.
UM, BOWIE HIGH SCHOOL, STRAIGHT MUSIC WAS A WONDERFUL SPONSOR AND SET PERFORMERS TO THREE SCHOOLS.
THEY HAD TWO SILENT DISCOS DONATED TO DELL VALLEY SCHOOLS.
UM, AND THEIR GOAL THIS SPRING IS TO MAKE A SHORT VIDEO USING SOME OF THE ENTHUSIASTIC TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT SIGNUPS, UM, THEIR STAKEHOLDER GROUPS OR SUPERINTENDENTS, UH, FINE ART DIRECTORS, MUSIC TEACHERS, HISTORY TEACHERS, PRINCIPALS, BOOSTER CLUBS, ET CETERA.
AND THEY'LL USE THIS VIDEO TO HELP DRIVE PARTICIPATION IN 2025.
UM, SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING, AND HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UM, THAT AUSTIN IS DOING SOME, YOU KNOW, GREAT PROGRAMMING, UH, IN REGARDS TO NOT NECESSARILY ALL AGES SHOWS AT A CLUB, BUT DEFINITELY IN, UM, IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
UM, WHICH I THINK WOULD, UH, CONTINUE TO NURTURE THE ECOSYSTEM FOR YOUNG MUSICIANS OR FOLKS INTERESTED IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.
SO YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR THIS TOPIC.
UH, COMMISSIONER K, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND THERE, UH, WE WILL BRING IT BACK WITH AN ACTION ITEM NEXT TIME.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GOLD, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND Y'ALL THAT HONK TEXAS IS COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, AND IT IS A REALLY INCREDIBLE FAMILY FRIENDLY, ALL AGES FESTIVAL.
UM, AND IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO HAVE, UM, SOMEONE FROM THE HONK BOARD COME AND TALK ABOUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, UM, WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM, UM, THAT WE CAN DO ON THE, ON THE CITY LEVEL.
LIKE, I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, PERMITTING THINGS AND LIKE, THEY DON'T DO A PARADE ANYMORE.
AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO COMPLICATED.
UM, SO IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT, UM, WHAT CHALLENGES THEY FACE, UM, IN PUTTING ON THAT FESTIVAL EVERY YEAR.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THEM, BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER WONDERFUL FAMILY FRIENDLY THING THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.
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AND, AND THIS IS LOCAL.YEAH, IT'S, UM, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I'M SO GLAD THE DIRECTION OF THE CONVERSATION WENT TOWARDS MORE ABOUT KIDS SHOWS AND NOT ALL AGES SHOWS, BECAUSE I THINK MOST MUSIC VENUES IN TOWN ARE ALREADY ALL AGES, BUT THERE'S A REALLY LACK OF REPRESENTATION FOR KIDS SHOWS IN PARTICULAR.
AND, UM, WE HOST A LOT OF 'EM AT THE VENUE THAT I RUN.
UH, HONG TEXAS IS A FANTASTIC EXAMPLE, AND SO IS THE BREAKFAST BOOGIE.
AND I THINK PARTNERING WITH SCHOOLS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA, BUT THERE'S ALSO THIS REALLY KIND OF EMPTY SPACE AT VENUES WHERE THEY COULD BE USED.
A LOT OF THESE SHOWS THAT ARE ALL AGES ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY START AT NIGHTTIME.
AND ONE OF THE COOL THINGS IS THAT THESE VENUES DO HAVE JUST MOSTLY AN EMPTY SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED EVERY DAY TO SUPPORT KIDS AND THEIR PARENTS AND, YOU KNOW, YOUTH MUSIC, UM, AND THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE NOT BEING USED.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES THAT COULD BE USED TO HELP THESE KIDS FURTHER THEIR FUTURE CAREERS IN, IN MUSIC IN AUSTIN.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THANKS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UH, I ALSO, I'D LIKE TO MENTION THE FACT THAT, UH, THIS, THIS WEEKEND, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY AT DORIS MILLER, THEY'RE HAVING THE, UH, JUNTO FESTIVAL THAT, UH, AN DOES EVERY YEAR.
AND IT'S GONNA BE A THREE DAY EVENT, AND IT'S FREE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO, UM, JUST ANOTHER EVENT THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENING AROUND, I WILL BE MCN PART OF IT, BUT
YEAH, I THINK, UM, I THINK, UH, WHAT THEY DO ON THE ODD, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS MAYBE, I ALWAYS HAVE AN HH ITEM AT THE END FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SHARE INFORMATION ON ANY EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT MOVING FORWARD.
[12. Approve recommendation for sound assessment and disclosure requirements for residential development near Outdoor Music Venues and Performance Venues by Brian Block, Nightlife & Entertainment Services Manager, Development Services Department.]
TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ITEM HERE IS APPROVE RECOMMENDATION FOR SOUND ASSESSMENT AND DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, NEAR OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES AND PERFORMANCE VENUES BY BRIAN BLOCK, NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES MANAGER, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
AGAIN, I'M BRIAN BLOCK, THE NIGHTLIFE, AN ENTERTAINMENT MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UM, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THE POLICY PROPOSAL.
IT'S ON SOUND ASSESSMENT AND DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN WE WILL BE SEEKING YOUR RECOMMENDATION AFTER THE PRESENTATION AND AFTER Q AND A.
SO FIRST, A BIT ON THE BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE.
WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHERE DID IT COME FROM? UM, I MEAN, BIG PICTURE, THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF DECADES.
THE BIG PURPOSE IS TO IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN RESIDENTS, HOTELS AND MUSIC RELATED BUSINESSES.
UM, MO MORE SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE LATEST KIND OF COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO IS FROM 2018.
IT WAS PRETTY WIDE RANGING, AND THERE'S STILL SOME STUFF LEFT TO BE DONE ON THAT WORK PLAN, INCLUDING THIS, UM, IT SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED STAFF TO PROPOSE PROGRAMS, RULES AND ORDINANCES NECESSARY TO IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN RESIDENTS, LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS, AND MUSIC RELATED BUSINESSES.
APPROPRIATE TO MENTION AT THIS COMMISSION, UM, THIS IS PART OF COUNCIL EFFORTS TO SUPPORT MUSIC, ARTS AND CULTURE.
UM, SO MUCH HAS BEEN DONE TO ENSURE THAT SOUND LEVELS FROM MUSIC RELATED BUSINESSES ARE REASONABLE, THAT RESIDENCE HAS MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN LIVABILITY AND THAT COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCEMENT IS RESPONSIVE AND EFFECTIVE.
WE'VE GOT A VERY ROBUST SYSTEM FOR MANAGING ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND TO ENSURE THAT MUSIC RELATED BUSINESSES ARE VIABLE AND SUSTAINABLE, AND WE MAINTAIN LIVABILITY AND RESIDENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE.
UM, BUT POLICY RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RESPONSIBILITY IS STILL OUTSTANDING.
THAT'S WHAT THIS POLICY IS ABOUT.
UM, JUST BIG PICTURE, IN ADDITION TO THE SOUND ORDINANCE AND ENFORCEMENT, THE SOUND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SHOULD ANTICIPATE AND ADDRESS QUALITY OF LIFE'S ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IN PROXIMITY TO NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS AND DISTRICTS.
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SO, BEFORE I GET INTO DETAILS ON THE RECOMMENDATION, A BIT ON THE POLICY GOALS, AGAIN, THIS FIRST ONE'S REPETITIVE, BUT WORTH SAYING.AGAIN, THE GOAL IS TO IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN ENTERTAINMENT USES THAT HAVE AMPLIFIED SOUND AND MUSIC AND RESIDENTIAL AND HOTELS.
WE WANNA ANTICIPATE AND PLAN FOR AND MINIMIZE COMMON CONFLICTS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN OCCUR BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL USES AND ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND IF YOU'RE NOT PROACTIVE ABOUT 'EM.
UM, GETTING MORE INTO KIND OF THE HEART OF THE CONTENT.
THE POLICY GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS UNDERSTAND THE SOUND LEVELS AND THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING SO THEY CAN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING.
CONSIDERING THE SOUND IMPACT FROM, YOU KNOW, LEGAL AND CODE COMPLIANT ENTERTAINMENT USES, IT'S, I GUESS, WORTH REPEATING, REALLY GETTING THEM AT A TIME, GETTING THIS INFORMATION AND ENSURING ACCURATE EXPECTATIONS AT A TIME DURING DESIGN WHEN THEY HAVE SOME WAY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO, YOU KNOW, UM, LOOK AT THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND, AND MAKE CHANGES IF NEEDED.
SO GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO THEM AT THE RIGHT TIME.
UM, AND THEN, UM, ALSO PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND NEW RESIDENTS THAT ARE MOVING INTO THOSE NEW PROJECTS WITH ACCURATE EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THE SOUND LEVEL THAT WILL BE PRESENT AND, UM, HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS.
SO I'M JUST GONNA HIGHLIGHT THE APPROACH AND THEN I'LL KIND OF GET INTO THE DETAILS OF IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, UM, WE SEE IT AS A COMMON SENSE SOLUTION.
UM, IT'S NOT PRESCRIPTIVE, IT FOCUSES ON EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.
UM, IT REQUIRES RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENTS NEAR OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES AND PERFORMANCE VENUES TO DO TWO THINGS.
ONE, CONDUCT A SOUND ASSESSMENT.
TWO, UM, DISCLOSE TO FUTURE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY SELL OR LEASE THOSE UNITS ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF THOSE NEARBY VENUES AND THE FACT THAT THEY CONDUCTED A SOUND ASSESSMENT.
UM, A BIT ABOUT THE JUST DESCRIPTION AND INTENT MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE KIND OF BACKGROUND ON THAT.
UM, IT PROMOTES EDUCATION AND INFORMED DECISIONS.
IT DOESN'T MANDATE BUILDING STANDARDS.
AGAIN, INSTEAD IT REQUIRES THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER TO DOCUMENT THAT THEY'VE STUDIED THE SOUND LEVELS IN THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING.
UM, THIS INCLUDES, OF COURSE, ASSESSING THE IMPACT OF LEGALLY COMPLIANT SOUND FROM NEARBY VENUES.
UM, THEN THEY'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE TO FUTURE RESIDENTS THE PRESENCE OF THOSE NEARBY VENUES AND THAT A SOUND ASSESSMENT WAS CONDUCTED.
THE THINKING BEHIND THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE DISCLOSURE.
IT'S KIND OF THAT SECOND STEP WHERE THE POTENTIAL NEW RESIDENT IS ENCOURAGED TO ASK QUESTIONS.
UM, THEY KNOW THAT THERE ARE VENUES NEARBY NOW THEY KNOW THAT A SOUND ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED.
THEY'RE ENCOURAGED TO ASK QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO KIND OF MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE TWO OF THEM TO WORK IT OUT.
THERE REALLY ISN'T A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
UM, EVERY SITE IS DIFFERENT AND SOUND IS DIFFERENT AT EVERY SITE.
THIS IS PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION AND INFORMED DECISIONS.
UM, ANOTHER IMPORTANT ELEMENT TO POINT OUT.
UM, THIS APPROACH DOESN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING FURTHER OF OUR, UM, OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES AND PERFORMANCE VENUES.
AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, THEIR SOUND LEVELS ALREADY REGULATED.
UM, OUTDOOR VENUES REQUIRE A PERMIT.
UM, IT'S A FIXED SOUND LEVEL STANDARD THAT'S KIND OF CONTEXT AND CUSTOM CUSTOMIZED FOR THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND ITS CONTEXT AND IT'S PREDICTABLE AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHEN NEW RESIDENTIAL IS BUILT NEAR IT.
UM, THAT'S ALREADY FACTORED IN.
NOW DOWN TO THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, THIS IS REPETITIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH REPEATING.
THIS IS THE SPECIFICS OF, OF WHAT WOULD GO INTO THE ORDINANCE REQUIRE NEW RESIDENTIAL IMPORTANT THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, NEW RESIDENTIAL THAT REQUIRES A SITE PLAN AND HOTEL AND LODGING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IF THEY'RE WITHIN 600 FEET OF AN ESTABLISHMENT WITH AN OUTDOOR MUSIC
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VENUE PERMIT OR 300 FEET OF A PERFORMANCE VENUE.YOU HEARD ABOUT THE NEW PERFORMANCE VENUE LAND USE AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR MEETING TODAY, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT THAT'S ROLLED INTO THIS PROPOSAL.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TRIGGERS.
AND AGAIN, THE TWO THINGS REQUIRED.
FIRST, CONDUCT THAT SOUND ASSESSMENT THAT AT A MINIMUM DOCUMENTS THE CURRENT SOUND CONDITIONS AT THE SITE, AND IT ASSESSES THE PROJECTED SOUND LEVEL INSIDE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
AND THE SECOND STEP IS TO PROVIDE A DISCLOSURE WHEN THOSE UNITS ARE SOLD OR LEASED AND OR WHEN THE BUILDING IS SOLD REGARDING THE PRESENCE OF THOSE NEARBY VENUES.
AND THAT A SOUND ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED.
UM, A LITTLE BIT ON THE CRITERIA.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CRITERIA THEY NEED TO HIRE A QUALIFIED ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT.
UM, BUT A COUPLE OF CRITERIA THAT DO NEED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED ARE THEY NEED TO CONDUCT THE SOUND ASSESSMENT, UM, IF IT'S A LIVE PERFORMANCE VENUE DURING A PERFORMANCE, 'CAUSE THAT'S COMMON SENSE.
BUT, UH, WRITING IT DOWN ANYWAY.
AND FOR A BAR OR NIGHTCLUB THAT'S NOT CENTERED ON A SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE DURING PEAK HOURS.
UM, HOPEFULLY THAT'S ALL COMMON SENSE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF GEARED A BIT MORE TOWARDS THE REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT WORTH TALKING TO EVERYONE ABOUT.
UM, IT'S A SIMPLE CERTIFICATION PROCESS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE A STAFF REVIEW.
THE INTENT IS TO KIND OF HAVE AS LIGHT A TOUCH AS POSSIBLE ON THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, ESPECIALLY WITH HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING SUPPLY BEING SUCH A BIG ISSUE.
THE INTENT IS TO MAKE AN IMPORTANT IMPACTFUL IMPROVEMENT AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIMIT, UM, ANY IMPACT ON, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
SO THE SOUND ASSESSMENT REQUIREMENT WILL BE ADDED TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW CHECKLIST, SO THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT UPFRONT.
UM, WE'VE CREATED A MAPPING TOOL FOR EASY IDENTIFICATION OF WHERE THE VENUES ARE LOCATED.
YOU CAN TYPE, UH, THE ADDRESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT INTO THE TOOL AND IT WILL POP UP AND POPULATE, UM, EVERYTHING WITHIN THOSE BUFFER DISTANCES.
SO IT'S EASY FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR STAFF TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY WHERE, UM, WHEN THE CRITERIA APPLY.
UM, IF THE SOUND ASSESSMENT IS REQUIRED, THE APPLICANT WILL COMPLETE IT DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
THEY'LL SUBMIT A CERTIFICATION THAT THE ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED, AND STAFF WILL ENSURE THAT THAT CERTIFICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
IT'S ON FILE AND IT'S TRACKED.
SO WE KIND OF KNOW WHICH PROJECTS THIS APPLIES TO, CAN RUN REPORTS ON IT LATER.
UM, THERE'S NO STAFF REVIEW OF THE SOUND ASSESSMENT, SO IT DOESN'T LENGTHEN OR IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
THERE'S NO REQUIRED APPLICANT RESPONSES OR MANDATED BUILDING STANDARDS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO DO.
UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM THE INFORMATION, MAKING SURE THAT DISCLOSURE HAPPENS.
SO THE FUTURE RESIDENT IS ENCOURAGED TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE ENCOURAGED TO ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WILL GET THOSE QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN IT'S UP TO THEM TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THEY UTILIZE THAT INFORMATION DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS WHEN THEY CAN IDEALLY MAKE EVEN EASY CHANGES THAT CAN BE A POSITIVE IMPACT TO COMPATIBILITY FOR THEIR RESIDENTS IN THOSE EXISTING VENUES.
UM, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT, UM, WILL PROVIDE THE DISCLOSURE WHEN THE UNITS ARE SOLD OR LEASED.
UM, ONE POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, UH, WAS A GOOD ONE THAT WE WANTED TO INCLUDE HERE IS IF THE TRIGGERING VENUES ARE NO LONGER PRESENT IN THE FUTURE, OF COURSE, THE DISCLOSURES NO LONGER REQUIRED.
THERE'S NOTHING TO DISCLOSE ON ANY LONGER.
UM, OUR TIMELINE, WE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION ON MARCH 27TH.
UM, APRIL 3RD, UM, IS A VIRTUAL PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONS LATER IN THE MONTH.
IT'LL BE ARTS DOWNTOWN AND DESIGN.
AND OUR TARGET DATE IS TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL MAY 30TH.
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AND THE PROPOSAL IS THAT THESE CHANGES IF ADOPTED BY COUNSEL, WOULD GO INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.UM, I THINK I, THIS SLIDE I THINK WAS, SHOULD HAVE BEEN EARLIER.
I THINK I MADE THIS CLARIFICATION, BUT I'LL DO IT AGAIN.
UM, IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
UM, THE INTENT IS TO, UM, HAVE THE IMPACT MADE WHEN THEY'RE BEING DESIGNED SO THAT CAN IMPACT THE DESIGN DECISIONS.
UM, SO THIS IS FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AND THAT TAKES US TO Q AND A AND LATER, UM, SINCE THE PUBLIC INPUT IS STILL OPEN, THIS QR CODE, UM, IS AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO USE TO, IF THEY WANNA PROVIDE FEEDBACK, WE'LL GO TO THE PUBLIC INPUT PAGE.
UM, WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THEN WE WOULD BE SEEKING YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROPOSAL IF THE COMMISSION IS INCLINED.
COMMISSIONER ROSENDO, I'LL GET YOU NEXT, PLEASE.
I WILL, UM, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY LONG MEMORY AS THE MOST TENURED MEMBER OF THIS MUSIC COMMISSION.
UH, I, LET'S TRY AND CATCH THE REST OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION UP ON WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING WITH, UH, SOUND ORDINANCES OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, AND BRIAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THERE WAS AN INITIATIVE CALLED CODE NEXT WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO REWRITE LAND USE.
AND AS PART OF THAT, THIS, THIS WAS, I'M GOING BACK AROUND LIKE 20 17, 20 18.
AS PART OF THAT, UH, THE MUSIC COMMISSION WANTED TO IMPLEMENT SOME CO SOME LAWS THAT WERE CALLED AGENT OF CHANGE, WHERE BASICALLY THE LAW WAS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE.
THE LAW IS THAT IF THERE'S A PLACE WHERE THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED LIVE MUSIC VENUE AND SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL THERE, THEN THEY ARE THE AGENT OF CHANGE AND THE BURDEN OF SOUNDPROOFING AND ALL OF THAT GOES ON THEM.
IF YOU WANNA OPEN UP A MUSIC VENUE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN THE VENUE IS THE AGENT OF CHANGE.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A CONCEPT OF FAIRNESS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE ON THAT.
AND CODE NEXT WAS NOT, UH, ULTIMATELY I THINK IT VIOLATED STATE LAW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IT NEVER GOT PASSED.
SO WHAT I WANNA ASK YOU IS, ARE THESE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO RECOMMEND, DO YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE A FAIR SUBSTITUTE, UH, FOR THAT AGENT OF CHANGE WORK THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET INTO CODE NEXT? THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
SO I WOULD SAY IT HAS, UM, RELATED INTENT.
UM, I THINK IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT, THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING OF THE VENUE, SO IT DOESN'T GO BOTH WAYS.
UM, WE, AS I SAID, WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
SO WE THINK THAT THAT'S ALREADY TAKING PLACE WHERE THAT'S CUSTOMIZED IN CONTEXT SENSITIVE AND APPROPRIATE AND BUILT ON A POLICY FOUNDATION.
THAT GOES BACK REALLY TO 2002 AND 2003, WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, ENSURED THAT WE HAD POLICY THAT ALLOWED LIVE MUSIC AND OUTDOOR LIVE MUSIC, BUT SET SOME TIME CUTOFFS AS KIND OF A BALANCING ACT.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AND BUILT ON OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES SINCE THEN.
SO THIS IS REALLY DIRECTED ONLY AT NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK IT HAS, YOU KNOW, A GOOD BIT IN COMMON WITH, UM, WHAT YOU REFERRED TO.
YOU KNOW, SO THIS GOES BACK TO 2002, 2003, THERE WAS MENTION OF THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTABILITY EVEN BACK THEN.
UM, THEN IN 2013 THERE WERE SOME EFFORTS TO, UM, ADDRESS IT, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESCRIPTIVE AND THROUGH BUILDING STANDARDS AT THAT POINT.
UM, AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED IN 2017, UM, AGAIN, ANOTHER EFFORT TO KIND OF DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
SO I THINK IT'S IN THE SAME VEIN.
UM, IT, IT'S FOCUSED ONLY ON THE NEW RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND IT'S FOCUSED ON GETTING INFORMATION THROUGH THE REQUIRED SOUND ASSESSMENT AND
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THEN THE DISCLOSURE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPACT THE SOUND, THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AT THE RIGHT TIME TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE, THE VENUES NEARBY THAT ARE PERMITTED AND LEGAL AND COMPLIANT IN THEIR SOUND LEVEL.SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EXACTLY AN ANSWER, BUT I THINK THEY'RE CERTAINLY RELATED.
UM, I, I THINK THIS IS A NO-BRAINER TO, UM, RECOMMEND THIS, IT, THE ONLY THING THAT I, YOU KNOW, WHY I THINK IT'S SUCH A NO BRAINER IS THAT, AND MY HOPE IS THAT THIS EVENTUALLY BECOMES A STEP FORWARD TOWARDS A MUCH LONGER RUNWAY OF, UM, FIXING THE KIND OF THE, UH, RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN LOCAL RESIDENTS AND MUSIC VENUES.
UM, AND YOU'VE BEEN SO GOOD AT BEING THE LIAISON FOR ALL OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND I'VE WORKED WITH YOU, LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD WRITE A BOOK ON SOUND IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOODS AT THIS POINT.
UM, I LOVE THE IDEA, IT'S JUST PURELY INFORMATIVE TO THE PEOPLE, TO THE RESIDENTS AND TO BUILDERS AND TO MUSIC VENUES IN THE AREA.
SO I THINK REALLY IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD STEP TOWARDS A MUCH MORE PROSPEROUS FUTURE IN MUSIC AND THE MUSIC ECOSYSTEM IN TOWN.
I JUST REALLY HOPE THAT EVENTUALLY IT TURNS INTO SOMETHING WITH MORE TEETH BEHIND IT.
AND THEN YOU DO HAVE TO NOT FORCE THE HAND OF DEVELOPERS, BUT TO REALLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT, UM, UH, SOUND DETERIORATING MATERIALS THAT THEY HAVE TO USE.
OR, YOU KNOW, HAVING A MORE ROBUST SOUND IMPACT PLAN IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ALREADY HAVE MUSIC VENUES.
UM, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS 'CAUSE IT'S A REALLY COOL STEP TOWARDS THERE AND HOPE THAT IT DOESN'T STOP HERE AND THAT IT KEEPS GOING FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND JUST 'CAUSE IT REALLY DOES HELP THE ECOSYSTEM FOR ALL MUSICIANS AND, AND NEIGHBORS ALIKE.
NO ONE WANTS TO BOTHER SOMEBODY WHILE THEY'RE ASLEEP BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANNA LIVE NEAR, NEAR A MUSIC VENUE AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW, BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE 500 FEET AWAY FROM STUSS.
YOU KNOW, UM, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT.
BUT MAYBE YOU JUST BUY YOUR HOUSE SIGHT UNSEEN.
THANK YOU CONCUR WITH ALL THAT YOU SAID.
UM, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, UH, QUESTIONS FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS OR, UH, WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION? AND SO, SO WHAT F FIRST OFF, MR. BLOCK, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND, AND, AND, AND WAITING.
'CAUSE YOU RAN YOUR OWN SLIDES AND THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME.
NO ONE EVER RUNS THEIR OWN SLIDES.
SO, UM, THE, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS, IS IS BASICALLY JUST, UH, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S, I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE, BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS BEFORE SOMEONE TAKES ON A PROPERTY OR BUYS A PROPERTY OR LEASES A PROPERTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING THEMSELVES INTO, BASICALLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE, UM, UM, PASS A MOTION, LIKE, TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND THIS RECOMMENDATION.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? SORRY.
IT'S, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S UP TO YOU.
BUT HE DID ALREADY SUGGEST RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE NEED TO READ THIS OUT? OH, IT'S ALREADY HERE.
ARE YOU TRYING TO CREATE A RECOMMENDATION? LIKE WHAT, WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN? SO YOU'RE GONNA SEND ME A RECOMMENDATION? UH, I CAN'T, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
SO I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO MOTION, I THINK WE'RE GOOD OR WE NEED TO MOTION THAT WE CAN APPROVE.
SO GO AHEAD AND MOTION THAT YOU CAN FULFILL HIS RECOMMENDATION IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SECOND THAT, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AS USUAL.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT REQUIRE NEW RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND HOTEL LODGING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITHIN 600 FEET OF AN ESTABLISHMENT WITH AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT, OR WITHIN 300 FEET OF A PERFORMANCE VENUE.
ONE, CONDUCT A SOUND ASSESSMENT THAT AT A MINIMUM DOCUMENTS THE CURRENT SOUND CONDITIONS AT THE SITE AND SS THE PROJECTED SOUND LEVEL INSIDE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
SECOND, PROVIDE A DISCLOSURE WHEN UNITS ARE SOLD OR LEASED, AND WHEN THE BUILDING IS SOLD REGARDING THE PRESENCE OF PERMITTED OMV ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN 600 FEET AND PERFORMANCE VENUES WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE BUILDING.
AND THAT A SOUND ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED.
THAT'S THE ENTIRE RECOMMENDATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.
UH, LET'S, UH, UH, TAKE COMMISSIONER AGUILAR.
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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YOU, MR. BLOCK.[14. Conduct officer elections for Chair, Vice-Chair and Parliamentarian. ]
RIGHT.MOVING TO THE LAST OF THE, UH, AGENDA ITEMS AND THE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. I WOULD, UH, QUICKLY LIKE TO MOTION TO AMEND THIS TO CONDUCT OFFICER ELECTIONS FOR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR PARLIAMENTARIAN AND SECRETARY.
UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? WE ARE MISSING A SECRETARY ITEM FROM HERE.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UH, CONDUCT.
LET'S START FROM THE CHAIR, UH, CONDUCT, UH, OFFICER ELECTIONS, UH, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I JUST WANNA TAKE A QUICK, UH, MOMENT TO, UH, THANK EVERYBODY HERE, UH, FOR, UH, ALLOWING ME THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THIS YEAR.
UH, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND, UM, UH, JUST BEEN, UH, VERY GRATEFUL TO SERVE WITH ALL OF YOU.
CHAIR, DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? UH, I NOMINATE NAVAL MELA AS CHAIR COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, NOMINATE NALA AS CHAIR.
IS THAT OKAY? SO I TAKE THAT AS A SECOND.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR? UH, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
I, I DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOUR TRUST IN ME TO DO THIS JOB.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE AND CHARLOTTE AS VICE CHAIR? I, I EASILY SECOND THAT.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL IS, UH, PARLIAMENTARIAN.
UM, AND, UM, IS THERE ANY NOMINATION ON THE COMMISSION TODAY FOR THE POSITION? I LIKE TO NOMINATE RESIDENT, THOUGH
UM, ANY SECONDS SECOND? COMMISSIONER DILLA.
UM, SORRY, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMEBODY ONLINE.
UM, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SERVE.
UH, AND SECRETARY, UM, I WAS, UH, STRUGGLING SOMETIMES TO PRONOUNCE THAT WORD CORRECTLY, AND I SAID I WOULD ADD IT ONLY IF I CAN GET IT RIGHT.
UH, UH, SO ANYHOW, UM, YEAH, SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE CURRENTLY ON THE COMMISSION, SO, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE SOME NOMINATIONS AS TO, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, MAY I REQUEST, UM, SHELBY, IF YOU COULD JUST, JUST VERY QUICKLY SPEAK TO WHAT DOES A SECRETARY DO? MM-HMM.
I PROBABLY SAID, READING OFF OF THE BYLAWS, UM, THE SECRETARY SHALL MONITOR THE TIMELY COMPLETION OF MEETING SUMMARIES OF THE BOARD'S MEETINGS.
DID EVERYONE CATCH THAT? SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
I THINK THERE'S JUST SOME PROBLEM WITH THE WALL.
THE SECRETARY SHALL MONITOR THE TIMELY COMPLETION OF MEETING SUMMARIES OF THE BOARD'S MEETING.
SO BASICALLY COLLABORATE WITH ME ON MINUTES.
I THINK THIS ALMOST FEELS LIKE A SECOND PAIR OF EYES BECAUSE STAFF IS ALREADY HELPING US WITH, UM, ALL THE MEETING MINUTES, THE TRANSCRIPT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE.
SO SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE THING TO DO.
UM, ALSO YOU BECOME AN OFFICER.
IS THAT RIGHT? IF YES, WHICH MEANS THAT MY CLOCK STARTS OVER, THOSE ARE THE FOUR, RIGHT? IT WOULD, IT WOULD START OVER IF I WERE TO DO IT OR
WELL, DOES IT START OVER? LIKE HOW DOES THAT WORK? I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS EXACTLY.
THAT THE CLOCK DOESN'T START OVER IF YOU GO FROM OFFICER TO REGULAR PERSON.
AND IT'S A ONE YEAR TERM FOR ANY OFFICER POSITIONS.
ANY, UM, ANY NOMINATIONS, ANY VOLUNTEERS THAT WE CAN QUICKLY NOMINATE YOU? I WILL LIKE TO NOMINATE MYSELF FOR SECRETARY.
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER TAKERS? ALRIGHT.
AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
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FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OH, I DO.YEAH, WE HAVE ANOTHER, WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.
DID YOU SKIP AN ACCIDENT? OH, OH, I MISSED IT.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? UH, THANKS COMMISSIONER PATTISON.
I THOUGHT I WAS DOING WONDERFULLY WELL WITH TIMING.
UH, NO, NO, YOU'RE NOT CURRENTLY NOT.
WE, AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THIS, DO WE? NO.
UM, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, I, I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'M SKIPPING AN ITEM TODAY.
SO ONE AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING.
[13. Approve recommendation for Hotel Occupancy Tax collection from unlicensed Short Term Rentals (STR) and additional cultural funding via STR platforms following update on joint Urban Core Land Use Working Group from Vice Chair Patterson.]
RECOMMENDATION FOR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTION FROM UNLICENSED SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND ADDITIONAL CULTURAL FUNDING VIA STR PLATFORMS. FOLLOWING UPDATE ON JOINT URBAN CORAL LAND USE WORKING GROUP FROM VICE CHAIR PATTERSON.UM, SO I'M GONNA TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DENSE, BUT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IT KIND OF FAST 'CAUSE WE'RE AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
UM, BUT, SO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE URBAN CORE LAND USE WORKING GROUP HAS TAKEN UP IS, UM, UNLICENSED SHORT-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT COLLECT THE CITY PORTION OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES.
AND SO THAT REPRESENTS, YOU KNOW, A DEFICIT TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE CONNECTION, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO MUSIC.
UH, SO, UH, SOME OF US HAVE WORKED ALSO WITH, UH, A WORKING GROUP FROM THE TOURISM COMMISSION THAT WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO THIS ISSUE.
AND SO THE TOURISM THAT WORKING GROUP CREATED A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, UM, OUR WORKING GROUP, THEY'VE INPUT ON TOURISM COMMISSION PASSED IT, UM, A REC A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEY'VE BEEN VISITING COUNCIL OFFICES AND THEY HAVE A MEETING WITH THE MAYOR COMING UP SOON.
SO, UM, I WILL GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS OF ALL THAT REALLY QUICKLY, AND THEN WE CAN FORMULATE OUR OWN RECOMMENDATION AND TAKE A VOTE.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S AN ESTIMATED 11,000 UNLICENSED, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS IN AUSTIN.
AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT.
ENFORCEMENT IS SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT.
UM, IT'S EASY TO LIST AN SDR WITHOUT IT BEING LICENSED.
SO IT, IT'S BEEN, IT ESTI, THERE'S AN ESTIMATED LOSS OF $3 MILLION IN CULTURAL AND MUSIC AND HERITAGE, UH, FUNDING EACH YEAR FROM THESE UNLICENSED STRS AS, AS WELL AS THE LOSS OF PERMITTING FEES.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S, THERE'S COSTS FROM THE, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON, UM, IMPACT ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO REPRESENTS A, A, A LOSS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
UM, SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT THE, UM, THAT WE TOGETHER WITH THE TOURISM COMMISSION, UH, PROPOSE ARE, UM, SO AUTOMATIC HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTION THROUGH THE PLATFORM.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SOME OF THE, UM, SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE AIRBNB TALKED TO US ABOUT, WELL, MAYBE LIKE TWO YEARS AGO NOW.
SO THE, THE, THE PLATFORMS WOULD COLLECT THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES AUTOMATICALLY AND REMIT IT TO THE CITY.
UM, STREAMLINED LICENSING TO ENCOURAGE COMPLIANCE, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE DATABASE OF OWNER AND PROPERTY INFO ON SHORT TERM RENTALS.
UM, AND THIS IS A INTERESTING CONCEPT, UM, BUT FORMING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PLATFORMS THAT CREATES INNOVATIVE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS AN OPT-IN CULTURAL SUSTAINABILITY FEE.
SO WHEN SOMEONE RENTS AN A SHORT-TERM RENTAL HERE IN AUSTIN, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO, WELL, ACTUALLY THEY'D HAVE TO, THEY'D HAVE TO MAKE AN, TAKE AN ACTION TO OPT OUT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, $2, 10%, $5.
LIKE IT COULD BE, THE AMOUNT IS NOT YET DETERMINED, BUT THAT WOULD GO INTO A CULTURAL SUSTAINABILITY FUND, SO THAT THAT WOULD REPRESENT, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR CULTURAL ARTS AND MUSIC IN AUSTIN.
UM, REQUIRING THE PLATFORMS TO SHOW, UH, PROOF OF LICENSING ON THE LISTING, UH, INCLU INCREASING FINES FOR NON-COMPLIANCE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, A CARAT, UH, A BEST PRACTICES, UH, BADGE AND DISCOUNTS, UH,
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ON LICENSE RENEWALS FOR CONSISTENT COMPLIANCE.UM, SO, UH, FIRST OF ALL, DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THAT? I KNOW WE WENT REALLY FAST.
I YOU CAN LET IT SINK IN FOR A SEC.
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WE ARE GETTING YEAH.
SO THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD PUT SOME TEETH IN AND GET MORE OF, MORE OF THAT MONEY, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY CORRECT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD THINK ABOUT A, A MORE STREAMLINED, I MEAN, I DO THINK IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ENCOURAGING COMPLIANCE, LIKE THERE'S BETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST A BETTER SYSTEM IF PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED AND YOU KNOW, THAT IN ITSELF IS GONNA IMPACT, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY COLLECTION ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF THE, THE PLATFORMS ARE, ARE STREAMLINING THE COLLECTION PROCESS AND REMITTING IT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY INSTEAD OF, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE OWNERS TO REMIT THE COLLECTION.
SO THAT STREAMLINES THE PROCESS.
AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS THE, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING WITH THE PLATFORMS TO CREATE THIS CULTURAL SUSTAINABILITY FEE.
SO THOSE WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, UM, I MEAN, TO ME IT MAKES SENSE.
I MEAN, CURRENTLY IT SEEMS LIKE A LOOPHOLE IN THE SYSTEM OF PEOPLE NOT PAYING TAXES.
UM, AND IT, WE, I AM A FAN OF PAYING TAXES PERSONALLY FOR MANY REASONS.
UM, AND, UH, I, SO I DON'T HAVE A PRO, I WOULD, UH, BACK THIS UP.
I ALSO THINK THAT FOR ANY MUSICIANS THAT OWN PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE A STR, THAT INC.
THAT IS SHOWING YOUR PROFIT STATEMENTS, PROFIT AND LOSS BUSINESS STATEMENTS INCREASES THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME.
SO IT'S A GOOD THING TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF IT AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.
I, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOME GO AHEAD, LAUREN.
WELL, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS HOT, FUN, HOT MONEY THAT'S BEING LEFT ON THE TABLE THAT COULD BE FUNDING OUR PROGRAMS, RIGHT? LIKE, SO THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE THE, THE BIGGEST RELEVANCE TO THE WORK THAT WE DO ON OUR COMMISSION, THAT IT'S ALL THIS UNCOLLECTED HOT FUNDS THAT COULD BE ADDED TO, YOU KNOW, KIM'S REPORTS THAT SHE GIVES US EVERY MONTH.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY IT IN A NUTSHELL.
IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY RELEVANT TO THE WORK THAT WE DO.
DIRECT, VERY DIRECTLY RELEVANT.
WELL, THAT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEARLY STATED.
THE, THE, THE, THE, UM, AND I KNOW THAT THIS, THIS CAME UP LAST YEAR, I THINK DURING OUR, DURING OUR JOINTS, ART, ARTS, ARTS MEETING.
AND I, AND I, I HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT IT, MOSTLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I FELT LIKE THIS WAS LIKE MORE OF LIKE A CITY COUNCIL THING THAN, THAN A MUSIC COMMISSION SORT OF, SORT OF THING FOR US TO KIND OF TACKLE.
LIKE THEY NEEDED TO SORT OUT ALL THEIR, WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO FIRST AND THEN KIND OF BRING IT DOWN AND, AND I GUESS US MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO DO THIS, I MEAN, IT'S, WE COULD, I'M JUST, I'M, I'M, I'M, AND I'M NOT A, I'M, YOU KNOW, I I I'M NOT A REALTOR OR A REAL ESTATE AGENT OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
SO I, I I, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS WOULD BE.
I MEAN, TECHNICALLY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN THERE, THESE THINGS AREN'T ENFORCED AND THE MONEY IS UNDER THE TABLE.
TECHNICALLY, THERE IS NO, THERE'S $0 RIGHT NOW.
SO WE WOULD BEGIN TO COLLECT THESE FUNDS IF THIS POLICY WERE TO GO INTO PLACE.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
SO I MEAN, OB YOU'RE CERTAINLY RIGHT, AND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT, BUT THE URGENCY TO ME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TOURISM WORKING GROUP IS, IS MEETING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING THESE MEETINGS RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE GETTING READY TO MEET WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL IN THAT MEETING IF THE, THE MUSIC COMMISSION HAS WEIGHED IN AND SAID, YES, IT IS IMPORTANT TO US THAT, THAT THERE'S A DIRECTIVE TO THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO START TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SURE.
THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ONE THING THAT, AND IT'S NOT, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T LIKE AN EITHER OR, IT'S ALL, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF A BOTH
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END.BUT, UH, IF, IF WE WERE TO, I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE IMPLICATIONS ON IT FROM THE, FROM THE RENTER SIDE AND FROM THE CONSUMER SIDE.
SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE PLATFORMS LIKE AIRBNB OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, TACK ON THESE FEES, WHICH THEY WOULD JUST PASS OFF TO THE CONSUMER POSSIBLY.
BUT THEN ALSO THERE'S, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON WHY SOME OF THESE FEES ARE BEING LEFT, LIKE, WHY SOME OF THESE DEALS ARE BEING LEFT UNDER THE TABLE.
AND I, AND I'VE BEEN SEEING, YOU KNOW, A FEW ARTICLES ABOUT HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY TAKE OUT A SECOND MORTGAGE AND THEY, THEY, THEY DO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL THING AND IT'S NOT QUITE WORKING OUT FOR 'EM SORT OF THING.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY IT'S UNDER THE TABLE.
IT'S, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, I'M IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, IT GETS SUPPORTED AND OF COURSE, TAXES GET PAID, AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATING THAT EVERYTHING JUST GETS UP UNDER THE TABLE.
ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE, I GUESS I AM, BUT IT'S, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE, UM, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS BEHIND THAT ON BOTH SIDES FOR COMPANIES AND PLATFORMS AND CONSUMERS AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT, THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, YES, WE GET 3 MILLION IN HOT MONEY, WHICH IS GREAT, YOU KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IS IT WORTH IT? I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT FOR OR AGAINST IT RIGHT NOW.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING THAT QUESTION.
IS IT WORTH IT? UH, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE.
WELL, I MEAN, I'M, WE'RE, UM, SO I, I, AGAIN, I WOULD SAY LIKE, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT TO BE WORKED OUT, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED OTHER WAYS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME AND WE'VE ASKED, YOU KNOW, THE CITY STAFF, OH, WILL YOU COME AND TALK TO US AND EXPLAIN THIS TO US? AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF LIGHT DECLINES OR, YOU KNOW, UH, HEIDI FROM ARTS AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO MEET WITH SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS A LITTLE BIT, AND IT'S LIKE, I, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE CITY IS NOT REALLY PICKING UP THE SLACK HERE,
LIKE, THERE, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE ENFORCEMENT.
SO, AND I'M, I'M NOT BEING LIKE THE STAFF THAT HANDLES THIS, AND I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE EVEN A LITTLE SHORTHANDED.
BUT THERE JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE, I THINK, A LITTLE MORE PRESSURE ON THE CITY TO REALLY START TO FIX THE PROCESS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A, IT'S BROKEN AND MUSICIANS ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DIRECTLY HURT BY THAT BROKEN PROCESS.
COMMISSIONER CARVAL, AND THANK YOU.
UH, THIS, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A NO-BRAINER TO ME AS WELL, BUT I ALSO AM NEW.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF HOT TECHS THAT GOES TO MUSIC OUT OF THIS $3 MILLION, IF YOU WERE TO FIND ALL $3 MILLION OF IT, HOW MUCH OF THIS GOES HERE? UM, MOST, A BIG CHUNK OF IT GOES, WOULD GO TO THE ARTS CULTURAL GRANTS, BUT MUSICIANS ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS AS WELL.
SO IT, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY LIKE, OH, IT'S THIS SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE.
'CAUSE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, LIKE THAT IS A SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS SAYING, BUT EVEN LIKE THE HISTORIC, LIKE THE PRESERVATION GRANT PART OF IT, THAT COULD DIRECTLY AFFECT MUSIC VENUES.
SO LIKE, WE WOULD HAVE A STAKE, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL OF IT WOULD GO TO MUSIC, BUT ALL OF IT WOULD AFFECT THE CULTURAL AND MUSIC ECOSYSTEM.
UM, DO WE WANNA KEEP DISCUSSING THIS? IS THERE A RECOMMENDATION? UH, IT'S DEFINITELY UNDER DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS TODAY.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, TAKE ON THIS? YEAH, I MEAN, I, IF I CAN MOTION ON MY OWN ITEM, I THINK THAT'S ALLOWED.
YEAH, I'LL, UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOTION THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT CITY COUNCIL, DIRECT CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO, UM, MAKE THE FOLLOWING, UM, TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS OR EXPLORE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS REGARDING UNLICENSED, UH, RENTALS, UH, AUTOMATIC HOT COLLECTION THROUGH THE LI THE HOT, THE SDR PLATFORMS. STREAMLINED LICENSING, INNOVATIVE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS A
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CULTURAL SUSTAINABILITY FEE THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PLATFORMS. UM, AND YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT COULD BE IT.WE COULD JUST SAY THOSE THREE THINGS, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT, THE REST OF THIS IS COVERED IN THE TOURISM RECOMMENDATION, AND I THINK OURS COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC TO MUSIC WITH THOSE THREE THINGS.
UM, THANK YOU COMMISSION FOR THAT.
UM, ALL RIGHT, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
NOW.UM, APPROVAL, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
UH, WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC, UH, COLLECTION UPDATE UNDER STAFF BRIEFINGS.
UM, WE WILL HAVE UPDATE ON CONSULTANT EVALUATION OF THE FY 23, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND PROGRAM, UM, ON THE AGENDA UPDATE ON FY 24 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UH, MAYBE JUST LEAVE IT THERE BY SHALEY, UH, WHATEVER NEXT UPDATE WE HAVE ON THAT.
UM, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, DO WE WANT TO KEEP DISCUSSION ON BOOKING FOR LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND BRING SOMEBODY IN NEXT TIME? I, I FEEL LIKE I, UM, DROP THE BALL ON THAT, AND I'M HAPPY TO FIND SOMEBODY TO TALK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I ALSO THINK THAT FOLKS PROBABLY OTHER THAN US, NEEDED A BREAK FROM SOUTH BY
AND SO MAYBE IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR THE NEXT GO ROUND.
SO WE'LL LEAVE THAT, UM, THEN, UH, UPDATE ON LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES FOR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS BY SHELBY MITCHELL.
WE'LL LEAVE THAT UNDER DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. WE WILL, UH, PUT, UM, UM, APPROVE, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO SPELL OUT THE RECOMMENDATION EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.
UH, BUT FOR NOW, I THINK WE CAN SAY DISCUSSION AND ACTION POST UPDATE ON, UM, ALL AGES SHOWS AND HOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN SUPPORTS YOUTH IN AUSTIN.
WE'LL KEEP, UH, DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON, UH, UH, IT WAS THE, DIDN'T WE WANNA MOVE THE, THE CULTURAL DISTRICT RECOMMENDATION? UH, YEAH.
SO THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON, UM, LAND I WAS LOOKING RELATED TO CULTURAL DISTRICTS.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL KEEP THAT UNDER DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, THEN, UM, UH, WE'LL BE ADDING, UH, A PRESENTATION BY ALISON, OR, UM, I'LL PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON, UH, FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR, UH, MUSIC AND ARTS.
UH, WE'LL ADD THAT TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. UM, ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT? OR WE CAN ALWAYS ADD AGENDA ITEMS LATER WITH ONE SECOND.
UH, NAME FOR THE, UH, OUR, UH, YES, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION PERFORMANCE FULL TIME, I THINK WITH THAT.
YEAH, THAT WE CAN PUT UNDER, I, I GUESS THEN WE MOVE THAT TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. SO DISCUSSION AND, UH, ACTION.
THEN THE LIVE MUSIC, WE CAN SPECIFICALLY HAVE AN, AN AGENDA ITEM TO WORK ON THAT.
WHAT AM I SAYING? YOU CAN HAVE AN UPDATE FOR, FOR THE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES.
I THINK THERE WILL BE MORE TO DEVELOP AROUND THE LIVE EVENT.
AND THEN UNDER POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS WE CAN TALK ABOUT, ABOUT NAMING, UM, THE RECORD, THE PERFORMANCES, THE VIDEOS.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I'D LIKE TO, UM, UM, ADD A, AN ITEM DISCUSSION ON, ON BUDGET RECOMMENDATION FOR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING FOR VENUES AND MUSICIANS.
UH, I THINK WE ADDED THAT TO THE BUDGET THAT WE SUBMITTED ALREADY.
WELL WOULD BE LIKE A, YOU NEED A, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A POST UPDATE? MAYBE? Y WELL, IT WOULD BE BASICALLY A PRESENTA, A PRESENTATION ON WHAT EXACTLY THAT COULD BE FOUR.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING NEW SUBMIT.
WOULD YOU BE PRESENTING IT? UH, NO, IT WOULD BE SOMEONE ELSE.
SO, UM, YEAH, SO IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S AN ITEM THAT WE'VE ALREADY ADDED TO OUR BUDGET PROPOSAL, BUT YEAH.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION'S APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
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NINE O'CLOCK NEXT TIME.