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[00:00:05]

TODAY IS MONDAY,

[CALL TO ORDER]

APRIL 8TH, 2024.

THIS IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY, AUSTIN ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

UH, IT IS 6:00 PM AND WE HAVE A QUORUM AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.

LET'S SEE.

1, 2, 3.

1, 2, 3, 4.

COMMISSIONER.

YEAH.

WELL, SIX, SEVEN.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE AT SEVEN.

EVEN WITHOUT SEEING COMMISSIONER NEER.

RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M NOT ON THERE, BUT I'M WORKING ON IT.

.

OKAY.

UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO VOTE, I THINK WE DO HAVE TO SEE YOUR FACE, SO, UM, JUST BE, TRY, KEEP WORKING ON THAT.

UM, ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO ROLL CALL.

I AM RYAN CLINTON.

UH, COMMISSIONER, I'M GONNA TRY TO GET TO YOU LAST.

COMMISSIONER EMER SO WE CAN SEE YOUR FACE.

UH, COMMISSIONER S MAGULA.

SHE WAS HERE, BUT WE LOST HER, SO SHE'S NOT AT THE MOMENT.

COMMISSIONER DODI HERE.

COMMISSIONER LINDER.

PRESENT.

DR. NELSON HERE.

COMMISSIONER HOLT.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER HERRERA WAS UNABLE TO, WELL, HE MAY BE LATE.

UH, HE HAD A PERSONAL, UM, CONFLICT.

UH, COMMISSIONER TUCKER IS NOT HERE AT PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER HUDDLESTON IS NOT HERE AT PRESENT.

UH, DR. BRUCE HERE.

UH, AND COMMISSIONER HOKE IS NOT HERE.

UM, COMMISSIONER S MAGULA.

I'M SORRY.

OH, HOKE.

HOKE? YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER SULA, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET.

UH, CAN YOU HEAR US? COMMISSIONER SULA? OKAY, BUT WE DID HAVE SEVEN, RIGHT? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

I'M STILL WORKING ON IT.

OKAY.

WE HAVE SIX UNTIL, UH, WE CAN SEE COMMISSIONER NEER OR HEAR COMMISSIONER MAGILLA .

MAYBE IF COMMISSIONER NEER SNUCK INTO COMMISSIONER SMILLA'S BACKGROUND.

.

I WONDER IF ONE OF YOU COULD TRY LOGGING IN FROM A DIFFERENT DEVICE.

I CAN TRY THAT.

COMMISSIONER S MAGULA, YOU APPEAR TO BE UNMUTED NOW IF YOU WANNA.

COMMISSIONER S MAGULA.

ARE YOU THERE? IT'S NOT, SHE'S NOT REACTING TO ME, SO I'M NOT SURE IF SHE CAN HEAR US.

I BLAME THE ECLIPSE.

I THINK IT WAS THE ECLIPSE'S FAULT FOR ALL OF THIS.

IT'S THE CLOUDY WEATHER.

SO FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, AFTER WE GET OUR SEVENTH, HOPEFULLY SOON, UM, WE'LL GO TO, UM, CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS AND WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST.

IF YOU'VE SIGNED UP FOR MORE THAN ONE, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE THREE MINUTES PER ITEM IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC.

THAT'S THREE MINUTES FOR IT AS WELL.

WE DO HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA TONIGHT SO THAT WE ASK.

THIS IS, THIS IS LOT.

IF, IF YOU GUYS ARE SPEAKING, I, I CAN'T HEAR ANY AUDIO COMING FROM YOU GUYS.

LOVE THAT.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES.

SHE STILL CANNOT HEAR US.

YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT RECEIVING ANY AUDIO.

HAS ANYBODY GOT HER NUMBER? ? IT'S ALL DO.

SO TRY CHAT.

CAN YOU CHAT TO HER IN THE ROOM? UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT TURNED OFF FOR SOME MORE REASONS.

WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY TO HER? UH, I MEAN, I, DOES SOMEONE HAVE A PHONE NUMBER FOR COMMISSIONER SULA? 'CAUSE I CAN, UH, CALL HER AND TRY TO DO TECH SUPPORT.

WE'RE TRYING.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

.

WE'RE TRYING.

I'M ON MY PHONE IF SOMEONE CAN LET ME IN.

OKAY.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

COMMISSIONER NEHMER, BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU.

CAN YOU TURN, UH, VIDEO ON?

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ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO.

GREAT.

SO, COMMISSIONER S MAGULA, WE CAN, UM, UH, APPARENTLY CAN'T HEAR US, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS.

AND SHE CAN'T ACTUALLY HEAR US , BUT FOR THE MOMENT, WE HAVE SEVEN, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

UM, AS I WAS MENTIONING ON

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, YOU DO HAVE THREE MINUTES PER ITEM THAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR IN GENERAL PUBLIC.

HOWEVER, IT'S A VERY, VERY LONG AGENDA ITEM SO THAT WE ASK FOR YOU TO BE CONSIDERATE OF, UM, EVERYONE ELSE'S TIME.

UH, I HAVE KAILYN N UM, KAILYN ME, I'M BEN.

I'D RATHER SPEAK DURING THE WALK SECTION NUMBER.

IS THAT RIGHT? THIS IS HOW WE DO IT, UH, HERE.

UM, NOW'S THE TIME.

UH, SO WE'D PREFER FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW.

THE, AND THE REASON WE DO IT IS 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE AND NOT HAVE TO STAY FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.

UM, I, I PROMISE YOU WE'RE ALL LISTENING.

UM, BUT WE TRY TO BE AS, UM, OPEN TO THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AS POSSIBLE.

SO IT'S UP.

YEAH, IT'S UP TO YOU.

IT'S NOT IF, UM, UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THERE IS A, UH, POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO WAIVE THE ORDINARY RULE AND HAVE YOU BE ABLE TO SPEAK WHENEVER YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, BEFORE THE ITEM.

SO IF IT'S YOUR PREFERENCE TO SPEAK AT THAT POINT RATHER THAN NOW.

UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, UM, THEN WE'LL DO THAT.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO ALLOWING THEM TO SPEAK LATER BEFORE THE ITEM? THAT'S FINE THEN.

NO.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO WAIT, THAT'S FINE.

UM, YEAH, I THINK, OKAY.

SURE.

SO IT'S KAITLYN, BEN, AND PETE.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

JUST REMIND ME LATER.

SOMEBODY HIT ME.

SO, UH, WE'LL REMEMBER TO DO CI CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AGAIN.

UH, ROCHELLE VICKERY.

MY NAME IS ROCHELLE VICKERY.

UH, I NORMALLY COME HERE AND TALK ABOUT SPAY AND NEUTER, BUT I'M COMING HERE BECAUSE I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

FINDERS FOSTER.

UH, ON THE 21ST OF MARCH, I FOUND FOUR DOGS AT THE END OF FALWELL LANE AND I 30, I LIVE OUT THERE IN DELL VALLEY, AND WE DO GET LOTS OF DUMPING OF THE CATS AND DOGS.

I CAME UP ON THEM 'CAUSE I WAS FIXING TO GO PICK UP SOME CATS OVER BY RO OFF BY THE HIGH SCHOOL IN DELL VALLEY.

UH, I CALLED ADRIAN IMMEDIATELY AND SHE GOT 'EM A NUMBER FOR A PICKUP, BUT IT COULD TAKE THREE DAYS.

I WENT TO PICK UP THE CATS, CAME BACK, LOOKED FOR THE DOGS.

I COULDN'T FIND THE DOGS.

AND TURNED, UH, THE NEXT DAY ON FRIDAY, I WENT BACK DOWN THE ROAD THERE BEFORE I DELIVERED MY CATS TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY FOR SPAYED AND NEUTER.

AND, UM, I CALLED AND THEY DIDN'T COME, BUT I LEFT A BIG PILE OF FOOD.

AND YOU CAN'T SAY KITTY, KITTY, KITTY FOR GET A CAT COME, OR THE DOGS DON'T COME, THE DOG, DOG, DOG, YOU KNOW.

SO I'LL CLAP MY HANDS AND HOLLERED AND PUT A BIG PILE OF FOOD OUT.

AND I LEFT TO TAKE THE CATS TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

AND, UH, WHEN I CAME BACK, UH, IT WAS AFTER NINE 30 THE FOOD WAS GONE.

AND I SAID, HALLELUJAH FOR THAT ONE.

UH, BUT I WENT BACK TO MY HOUSE 'CAUSE I CALLED AND I COULDN'T GET HIM TO COME BACK UP.

IN TURN, I WAITED UNTIL ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK.

I WENT TO AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, ASKED FOR MR. BLAND, TOLD HIM MY PROBLEM.

HE SAID, I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T TAKE THEM IN.

WE DON'T HAVE ROOM.

IF WE DON'T GET SOME ADOPTIONS THIS WEEKEND, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE SOME DRASTIC MEASURES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT I, YOU CAN KINDA KNOW WHAT HE'S GONNA, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IT.

I SAYS, WELL, I'M GONNA CALL THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

I CALLED THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

AND IMMEDIATELY ASHLEY SAID, I'LL COME GET 'EM.

AND SHE CAME OUT THERE AND I, WE HOLLERED AND CLAPPED OUR HANDS AND THEY CAME UP AND WE, SHE TOOK, SHE SAID, WE'RE FULL, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE 'EM.

AND, AND THEY TOOK 'EM IN.

AND THE FOUR PUPS WAS ADOPTED ALREADY.

AND THE MAMA DOG HASN'T BEEN.

BUT THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE PUT UP WITH OUT THERE.

AND I COULD NEVER HAVE TAKEN THEM IN.

AND I WANNA KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO WHEN A SITUATION IS LIKE THIS? HUMANE SOCIETIES HAS BEEN HERE 75 YEARS

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IN THIS TOWN, AND THEY TAKE NOTHING OFF OF THE CITY EXCEPT FOR THE SPADE AND NEUTER OF THE CATS.

THEY DON'T GET A FREE SHELTER.

THEY DON'T GET A FREE ANYTHING.

BUT YET THEY TOOK OUR DOGS IN AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I WORRIED ALL THAT NIGHT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF COYOTES ON THE RIVER THERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA KNOW.

IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO IF, IF, IF THE HUMANE SOCIETY CAN'T TAKE IN AND I CAN'T TAKE THEM IN.

CHELSEA REMAN.

HI THERE.

UM, I'M THE, I'M CHELSEA REMAN.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE BEHAVIOR PROGRAM AT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.

AND I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS SOME, UH, CONCERNS I HAVE AND SEEK CLARIFICATION ON THE STATUS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM AND RESOLUTION DISCUSSED IN ITEM NUMBER NINE.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ILLUSTRATE MY CONCERNS BY TELLING YOU ABOUT A DOG NAMED SADIE.

AFTER TWO MONTHS OF BEING AT A A C, SADIE WAS PLED AND TRANSFERRED TO A PA AS AN URGENT MEDICAL CASE FOR SUSPECTED LYMPHOMA.

AND IT QUICKLY BECAME APPARENT THAT IN HER POOR CONDITION, OUR SHELTER ENVIRONMENT WAS NOT THE BEST PLACE FOR HER TO HAVE THE HIGHEST CHANCE OF IMPROVEMENT OF HER HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO WITHIN A FEW DAYS OF HER ARRIVAL, I REVIEWED HER A A C PAPERWORK AND THEN BROUGHT HER HOME WITH ME TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF HER RAPID HEALTH DECLINE.

WHAT I DID NOT KNOW IN MAKING THIS DECISION WAS THAT SADIE HAD KILLED ANOTHER DOG IN HER PREVIOUS HOME.

UM, THIS INFORMATION IS ON RECORD AT A A C, ALONG WITH A NOTE THAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE A BEHAVIOR CONSULT TO BE DONE FOR HER DUE TO THIS INCIDENT.

HOWEVER, THIS CRITICAL INFORMATION WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO A PA AT ANY POINT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

IN THE INTEREST OF UPHOLDING SAFETY FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE USE EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION TO HAVE THE FULLEST PICTURE THAT WE CAN TO ADDRESS BEHAVIOR CHALLENGES AS NEEDED, EVALUATE APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SET DOGS AND PEOPLE UP FOR SUCCESS THROUGH COUNSELING AND SUPPORT.

HAVING THIS INFORMATION IS NOT ONLY BE HELPFUL, UM, IN INC IN ENSURING THE SAFETY OF OUR STAFF AND DOGS ON SITE, BUT WOULD ALSO BE USING CONSIDERATION FOR OUR ASSESSMENT AND PLACEMENT PROCESSES TO HELP EVALUATE THE BEST OPTIONS AND COURSE OF ACTION FOR SADIE.

HAD THIS INFORMATION BEEN SHARED, SADIE WOULD'VE BEEN DESIGNATED AS ONLY BEING ALLOWED TO GO TO A DOG FREE HOME.

AND I THEREFORE WOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT HER TO MY HOME IN AN UNKNOWINGLY PLACED SADIE, MY DOGS AND MYSELF IN A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION, A SITUATION THAT WAS EASILY AVOIDABLE.

UNFORTUNATELY, SADIE HAS SINCE PASSED AWAY DUE TO HER MEDICAL CONDITION, BUT HER STORY'S NOT A UNIQUE ONE.

WE CONTINUE TO WITNESS INCONSISTENCIES AND LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE REPORTING PROCESS.

AND DESPITE ASSURANCES OF A SIX MONTH PILOT PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, WE HAVE YET TO SEE ANY TANGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS IN RECORDING ACCURACY OR UPDATES TO BITE SCALE CATEGORIZATION.

WE'RE MOVING CLOSER AND CLOSER TOWARD IMPLEMENTING FATAL CONSEQUENCES FOR THE ANIMALS.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO RECEIVE UNFAIR REPORTING ABOUT AND THEREBY, UH, BEING SET UP TO FAIL.

I FEAR THIS AND WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON COMMUNITY SAFETY AT THIS RATE, AND WILL ONLY RESULT IN MORE UNNECESSARY KILLING OF DOGS.

THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS THAT MY INTENTION IN RELAYING THIS IS BY NO MEANS TO FINGER POINT OR PLACE, UH, PLACE BLAME, BUT FROM MY DESIRE TO HELP FIND A SOLUTION.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT I WOULD LOVE TO COLLABORATE WITH A A C ON SOLUTIONS TO ESTABLISH A MORE ROBUST DATA TRANSFER PROCESS BETWEEN OUR ORGANIZATIONS, UH, PRIORITIZING COMMUNITY SAFETY AND REDUCING UNNECESSARY EUTHANASIA.

AND ADDITIONALLY, I'M SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM AND ITS IMPLEMENTATION, UH, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO ENSURING DATA REPORTING ACCURACY, TIMELINE OF NEW BITE SCALE UTILIZATION AND OVERSIGHT MEASURES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK FOR A FOLLOW UP? SURE.

UH, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU FEEL THAT THERE ARE DOGS FROM A A C WHO BITE HISTORY IS NOT DISCLOSED TO A PA WHEN YOU TAKE THEM.

YES.

OKAY.

INTERESTING.

SO I'VE, OKAY.

UH, DOES A PA ALWAYS DISCLOSE BITE HISTORY OF DOGS TO PEOPLE YOU ADOPT TO YES.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS FIGHT HISTORY THAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO BEING AN A PA.

ANY INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, WE FEEL IS REALLY HELPFUL TO BEST SET EVERYBODY UP FOR SUCCESS.

SO WE DO SHARE ALL THE INFORMATION AND GIVE THEM SUPPORT ON IT.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING YOU GET FROM A A C YES.

YOU PASS ON TO YOUR ADOPTERS.

YES.

ANY HISTORY THAT WE HAVE? I THINK WE'VE MOVED PAST CLARIFICATION OF THE POINTS MADE BY THE SPEAKER.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT'S RELATED TO THE POINT MADE BY THE SPEAKER? OKAY.

NO, I JUST, IT WAS VERY SURPRISING, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS FULLY CLEAR ON THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAROLINE CLAY.

HI.

GOOD EVENING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? HI, MY NAME'S CAROLINE CLAY.

I LIVE IN NORTHEAST AUSTIN WITH MY HUSBAND AND OUR RESCUE PITY MIX CHEDDAR.

I'M ALSO A LOVABLE VOLUNTEER AND WE'RE CURRENTLY FOSTERING PIPPI.

UM, I AM HERE TONIGHT TO, BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH SADIE LAST WEEK, SHE WAS REALLY HELPFUL AND SHE MENTIONED THAT A A C IS MODELING OFF OF KANSAS CITY PET PROJECT AND THAT I SHOULD CHECK IT OUT.

SO I DID.

AND THIS IS THE NONPROFIT THAT RUNS THE CITY SHELTER IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.

SO WE AGREE, UM, WITHIN THE ANIMAL WELFARE VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS AN AMAZING ORGANIZATION WORTH EMULATING FOR CONTEXT, THEIR

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MOTTO IS SOLUTIONS NOT EXCUSES.

AND THEY HAD A LIVE RELEASE RATE OF 93.4% IN 2023.

DESPITE, LIKE US SEEING A HUGE INCREASE IN INTAKE, THEY PROVIDED CARE FOR OVER 16,000 ANIMALS AND GET 40 TO 60 NEW DOGS AND CATS PER DAY.

SO I SHARED THIS TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR CHALLENGES IN AUSTIN ARE SADLY NOT UNIQUE.

THIS IS HAPPENING NATIONWIDE, BUT I'M HOPEFUL BECAUSE KC PET PROJECT SHOWS THE ACHIEVABLE SOLUTIONS EXIST AND THEY PROVIDE A BLUEPRINT.

SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ONLINE THAT WE COULD USE NOW FOR BEHAVIOR.

AND THEY ATTRIBUTE THEIR SUCCESS TO HAVING ONE OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE DOG BEHAVIOR ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY.

THAT IS A QUOTE FROM THEM.

AND THEY HAVE 14 LOCATIONS FOR ADOPTIONS IN KANSAS AND MISSOURI.

AND THAT IS FOR A POPULATION OF 509,000.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LARGER POPULATION IN AUSTIN PROPER AND MUCH LARGER IN THE AUSTIN METRO AREA.

SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE MODELING AFTER THE CASEY PET PROJECT? WE WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN FOR THE COMMISSION, WE FEEL IT'S CRUCIAL TO REINSTATE THE BEHAVIOR AND ENRICHMENT TEAM AT A A C AND TO LOOK AT FACILITIES TO SUPPORT AUSTIN'S POPULATION GROWTH SINCE THAT FACILITY WAS BUILT MANY YEARS AGO AND DOES NOT MATCH OUR POPULATION.

WE WANNA KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT YOU IN MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN I, OH, UH, YES.

DR. BRUCE HAS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, DOES YOUR, UM, RESCUE HAVE A BEHAVIORIST OR A ENRICHMENT PROGRAM IN PLACE? WE HAVE TRAINING.

OH, MACY IS ON OUR BOARD, SO SHE WOULD BE BETTER TO ANSWER THAT.

BUT WE DO, YEAH, WE DO HAVE TRAINING FOR OUR DOGS AND, UM, WOULD ASSUME BE ENRICHMENT IN OUR PROGRAM IS EVALUATED AND GIVEN AN APPROPRIATE TRAINING PLAN BY BEHAVIORIST THROUGH .

YES.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

COULD YOU HEAR HER? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT, DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION? NOT A QUESTION, JUST A REQUEST FOR THE SPEAKER.

COULD YOU, WOULD YOU MIND EMAILING ME? I'D LOVE TO CHAT WITH YOU A LITTLE MORE.

YES, I WOULD LOVE TO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AWESOME.

AND SORRY FOR LOOKING BACK AT MACY.

I'M A NEWER VOLUNTEER.

YOU'RE FINE.

BUT WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE AND IT'S A GREAT GROUP AND WE WANT TO ASSIST YOU IN HELPING THE ANIMALS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MACY SHARP.

HELLO.

AS CAROLINE SAID, I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT AND TREASURER OF A LOCAL RESCUE CALLED LOVABLE.

MY ASK IS SIMPLE.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY IN THE AGENDA, SO I'D REALLY LOVE FOR US TO PUSH THAT A MONTH DOWN THE ROAD SO THAT EITHER WE CAN SEE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE COMMENTS ON THAT.

OR IF THERE AREN'T RECOMMENDATIONS, I'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP WITH SOME MYSELF TO SUBMIT TO YOU GUYS.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. SHARP.

UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, AT LEAST, I DON'T KNOW OF THE OFFLINE COMMISSIONERS, BUT THE ONLINE COM, THE PERSON, THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE HERE DO NOT HAVE BUDGET RE RECOMMENDATION PROPOSAL TODAY.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S NOT ONE IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS, BUT THAT MAY, THAT MAY CHANGE LATER.

BUT THAT'S AS FAR AS I KNOW AS OF NOW.

UM, YES.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I BELIEVE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN CONTACT US ABOUT BEING ON THE WORKING GROUP.

OKAY.

JUST TO REITERATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

UHHUH .

YES.

AND WE, WE GET SURPRISINGLY FEW EMAILS, SO FEEL FREE TO EMAIL US AS WELL.

UM, PAT V.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CHAIR CLINTON AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS PAT RES AND FOR CLARIFICATION, CAN I JUST ASK, I HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AND THEN CAN I RESERVE TIME FOR SPEAKING ON ITEM 12 LATER WHEN IT COMES UP, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW, OKAY, SO YOU WANT TO USE THREE MINUTES NOW AND THREE MINUTES AT 12? YES, PLEASE.

I ALSO HAVE YOU SIGNED UP ON 10? WHEN DO YOU WANNA USE THOSE MINUTES? UM, I'M GONNA ELIMINATE 10 AND JUST SPEAK OKAY.

DURING GENERAL AND THEN 12.

SURE.

MAY I START? OKAY.

UM, MY COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH THIS AGENDA AND I WANNA JUST COMMEND YOU 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT AGENDA.

AND I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK, UM, OUR CITY CLERK STAFF, UH, ERIC ANDERSON, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME.

THAT'S OKAY.

IT WAS ALL .

OKAY.

SO I WANNA THANK STILL HELPFUL, THANK YOU.

BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, VERY GOOD AGENDA AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF HOW FAR ALONG THIS COMMISSION HAS COME AND THE GOOD WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

UM, AND I'M REALLY WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS OR REQUESTS

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ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT I THINK COULD BE BETTER.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THAT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD POST A DRAFT AGENDA TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING, BECAUSE YOU USUALLY KNOW AT THE END OF YOUR MEETING WHAT'S GONNA BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE EITHER BRING THINGS UP AT THE MEETING OR, YOU KNOW, YOU POSTPONE SOMETHING AT THE MEETING.

SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ALREADY KNOWN TO YOU.

CITY COUNCIL DOES THIS.

THEY POST A DRAFT AGENDA TWO WEEKS BEFORE AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO STICK WITH THAT.

WHEN IT GETS CLOSE TO THE 72 HOUR DEADLINE, YOU CAN ADD TO IT, YOU CAN SUBTRACT, MY GLASSES ARE BROKEN, SO I HAVE TO JUST HOLD ON TO THEM.

.

UM, YOU CAN ADD TO IT, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, TAKE SOMETHING OFF.

HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T TAKE SOMETHING OFF.

'CAUSE IF PEOPLE PREPARE, UM, TO COME FOR THAT, YOU WILL CONSIDER IT.

BUT YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES UP UNTIL, UNTIL THE 72 HOUR DEADLINE.

BUT HAVING THE DRAFT AGENDA EARLY ON WOULD BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

UM, IT WOULD ALSO HELP TO START TO GET, UM, BACKUP DOCUMENTS EARLY ON SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT OR WHAT, WHAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE DRAFT DOCUMENTS AND, AND THE DISCUSSION.

UM, MY OTHER ONE THAT'S ALONG THOSE LINES IS TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE DON'T VOTE ON AN ITEM THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND SUBSTANTIVE THE FIRST TIME YOU DISCUSS IT AT A MEETING.

UH, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF YOU WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO HEAR YOUR DISCUSSION AND THEN COMMENT AGAIN AFTER WE'VE HEARD WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

AND IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD FOR YOU YOURSELVES TO HEAR EACH OTHER, YOUR THOUGHTS, AND THEN COME BACK AND VOTE THE NEXT TIME.

SO, UM, ALONG THOSE LINES, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MENTION ABOUT ITEM 10.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT ITEM 10 BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD THE DISCUSSION YET.

I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION TONIGHT ON THE FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 25 ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET.

AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER AND THE NEW CITY MANAGER IS STARTING, I THINK NEXT MONTH, RIGHT? MAY NEXT WEEK.

MAY 6TH.

MAY 6TH.

SO THAT'S WHEN THE CITY MANAGER'S GONNA START WORKING ON GETTING UP TO SPEED ON WHAT THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN DOING.

SO THAT GIVES YOU PLENTY OF TIME.

THANKS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

MOVE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

TO ITEM NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UM, NUMBER ONE, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2024.

I DID PERSONALLY REVIEW THE MINUTES THEY APPEARED TO BE CORRECT.

UM, THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T REVIEW IS IF SOMEONE STEPPED AWAY, UM, AND WAS LISTED AS A WAY I DIDN'T PERSONALLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT VIDEO.

SO, UM, I'LL MENTION THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF, IF ANY PERSON IS, IS STEPPING AWAY OR, OR IS ONLINE AND MIGHT MISS SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT THAT, UM, UH, YOU WANT TO APPEAR ON THE RECORD, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IT APPEARS CORRECTLY IN THE MINUTES.

'CAUSE I'M PERSONALLY NOT GONNA BE DOUBLE CHECKING, UH, STAFF ON WHO DID WALK IN AND OUT DURING A SESSION.

BUT THAT SAID, UM, THAT IS THE MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A, A, A MOVEMENT COMMISSIONER LINDER MOVES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DR.

NISSEN? UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY I OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

UH, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY OF THOSE HERE.

AND COMMISSIONER SULA, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW? SHE CAN.

YEAH.

IT, IT'S VERY BROKEN.

SORRY, I HAVE A VERY SPOTTY WIFI CONNECTION OUT HERE, SO I, I'M FOLLOWING, BUT I, I'M, I AM NOT GETTING EVERY WORD.

.

YOU MIGHT BE BETTER OFF THAT WAY, UH, ON US, NOT NOT THE PUBLIC, OBVIOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ON NUMBER TWO, STAFF

[2. Staff briefing regarding monthly reports provided by the Animal Service Center]

BRIEFING, UH, STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING MONTHLY REPORTS PROVIDED BY THE ANIMAL SERVICE CENTER.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL AGAIN.

UM, FOR MARCH.

I'M JUST GONNA COVER, UH, I'M GONNA COVER MARCH AND I'LL HAND IT OFF TO DAWN.

SO, LIVE OUTCOME RATE FOR MARCH WAS 97.09%.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 900 ANIMALS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE SHELTER.

UM, 480 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED AND A TOTAL OF 91 DOGS AND CATS WERE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNER, EITHER THROUGH A STRAIGHT UP RTO OR AN RTO ADOPT.

UM, ANIMAL PROJECTION RETURNED 23 ANIMALS TO THEIR OWNERS IN THE FIELD.

WE WERE ABLE TO HAND OUT 36 FENCING APPLICATIONS AND IMPLANTED ONE MICROCHIP.

UH, WE DID IMPOUND 141 INJURED ANIMALS AND DELIVERED APPROXIMATELY 30, APPROXIMATELY 37 ANIMALS TO AUSTIN WILDLIFE RESCUE.

WE DID ENTER 200 AND RA 81 RABIES EXPOSURE CASES, UM, AND YEAH, OF THE, UM, WE ALSO HAD 68 TOTAL COYOTE RELATED ACTIVITIES.

AND SO RIGHT NOW I'LL KICK IT OVER TO DON.

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GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, FAR MARCH, WE HAD, UH, SIX ORIENTATIONS FOR NEW VOLUNTEERS, BRINGING 143 ADDITIONAL VOLUNTEERS TO THE SHELTER.

DURING MARCH, WE HAD A TOTAL OF ALL OF VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS OF 5,722 HOURS.

AND, UM, EXCUSE ME, WE HAD CURRENT, WE HAD CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UM, 11 FULL-TIME POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN, THREE ARE POSTED AND EIGHT ARE IN PROCESS.

UH, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE ONBOARDING PROCESS FROM EITHER INTERVIEWING TO BACKGROUND CHECKS TO, YOU KNOW, HIRING.

SO, UM, AND WE WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE, UH, FOUR TEMPORARIES THAT ARE IN PROCESS AT THE PRO AT THE MOMENT ALSO.

SO, UH, OUR NUMBERS, UH, ARE BEING FILLED VERY QUICKLY, UM, THAT WE HAVE OPENING, BUT IT'S CREATING THAT CHAIN EFFECT BECAUSE WE'RE PULLING, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE FROM ANIMAL CARE GETS THE JOB IN A, IN A MOVING UP.

AND SO THAT OPENS THEIR POSITION.

SO IT'S KINDA LIKE IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT.

SO, UH, BUT WE'RE KEEPING THEM FILLED AND MOVING ALONG REALLY WELL.

SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING.

AND AS OF, UH, LAST WEEK, ALL OUR A PO POSITIONS WERE FILLED, SO WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.

DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THAT PART? COMMISSIONER NEER? I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL LET DON FINISH.

SURE.

WAS THERE MORE THAT YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER NEER, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

UM, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, UH, THERE WAS A SITUATION THAT CAME UP AT MY WORK AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INTAKE OF THE SHELTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE WE HAD SOMEONE WHO FOUND A CAT IN AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE AND WERE TOLD THAT NO ONE COULD COME AND HELP US WITH THAT.

AND THAT WE JUST NEEDED TO LET THE CAT GO IN THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE.

AND I HAD TO TELL THEM WHO, THAT I WAS ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO LISTEN TO ME.

AND THAT CAUSES ME A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR CAN SAY, HEY, I'M ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

CAN I TALK TO DON? OR CAN I TALK TO JASON SO THAT I COULD GET SOMEONE OUT THERE TO GET THIS CAT OUT OF AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE THAT IT WAS CLEARLY NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF? SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT 3 1 1.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESPONSE TO PEOPLE.

NOW, I'VE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED YOU TURNING PEOPLE AWAY WITH FOUND ANIMALS.

AND I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT, WHY WE'RE AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE TURNING PEOPLE AWAY WHEN THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WE COULD HAVE DONE EXCEPT KEEP THAT ANIMAL IN AN OFFICE BUILDING DOWN DOWNTOWN.

WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THE REASON WHY THAT THEY WOULD'VE TOLD YOU THAT.

UH, IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, 3 1 1, IF IT'S A HEALTHY ANIMAL THAT IS NOT SICK OR INJURED, THEY WILL TAKE A REPORT AND TURN THAT IN AND WE, IT GOES IN THE QUEUE AND IT WAS THICK.

AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY I KEPT PUSHING.

AND JASON SHOULD REC SHOULD RECOGNIZE THIS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY TALKED TO JASON AND FINALLY SENT SOMEBODY OUT THERE.

SO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING JASON, TO SAY? SO IF, IF I REMEMBER THIS ONE.

YEAH.

UH, ONE OF OUR SUPERVISORS CAME TO SPEAK ME.

WE DID FIND THE CAT.

UM, WE DID GET IT.

DIDN'T VERIFY.

DID YOU FIND CAT? I HAD THE CAT AND ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT OUT TO Y'ALL.

WELL, YEAH, AS I UNDERSTAND, THEY, THEY LOOKED AT THE CAT AND THEN THEY FOUND ITS OWNERS.

I THINK THEY RETURNED THE OWN, THE CAT IN THE FIELD.

IT DID WIND UP BEING A RETURN TO OWNER, BUT HAD NO ONE COME OUT THERE WITH A MICROCHIP SCANNER TO, FOR US TO, THAT HAD IT UNDERGROUND AND UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE.

THAT CAT WOULD'VE NEVER BEEN RETURNED TO OWNER.

I CAN DO, DO YOU SEE THAT? THE, THE, THE DISCONNECT THERE THAT CAT WOULD'VE WAS I WAS TOLD TO LEAVE THAT CAT IN AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE AND WITHOUT SOMEBODY COMING OUT TO SCAN THAT CAT, WE DIDN'T GET THAT CAT.

WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOT THAT CAT BACK TO AN OWNER.

AND WITHOUT ME BY HAVING TO SAY THAT I AM ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY IT GOT TO YOU.

JASON, WHAT IS A PERSON WHO IS NOT ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION? THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS OUT THERE THAT ARE OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE CITY COUNCIL CONSTITUENTS, WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE ANIMALS THAT WERE SICK? ANIMAL WAS SICK.

AND, AND FROM WHAT I UNDER WITH Y'ALL, I'M SORRY.

EXCUSE ME.

AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YES.

ONCE IT, ONCE WE LEARNED THAT IT WAS SICK, THEN WE HAD A, UH, SOMEONE WAS SENT OUT THERE TO GO VERIFY AND, AND GRAB THE ANIMAL IF THEY COULD AND POUND IT.

THAT'S WHEN THEY WERE ABLE.

SO WE WILL RESPOND TO SICK AND INJURED ANIMALS.

YOU, YOU KNOW, IF IT APPEARS HEALTHY THOUGH, IT, IT DOES BECOME A LOWER PRIORITY.

'CAUSE BY THE TIME WE'RE ABLE TO GET AN A PO OUT THERE, WE USUALLY CAN'T FIND THE ANIMAL.

SO IF IT IS SICK AND INJURED, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO GET THEIR, IT UPS THE PRIORITY FOR US.

SO WHEN THE, WHEN

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THE OFFICER DID, UH, WAS, WAS NOTIFIED THAT IT WAS SICK, HE WENT OUT, FOUND THE, FOUND THE CAT WAS ABLE TO SCAN IT AND THEN GET IT BACK TO ITS DONOR.

I, AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT WHAT WERE WE SUPPOSED TO DO IF I HADN'T SAID THAT? I WAS ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION AND HAD A CAT AND A DOWN IN AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE.

SO WE WERE TOLD TO LEAVE THERE BECAUSE IT WA UNLESS IT WAS SICK OR INJURED.

UH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, UH, CALL THAT CAME INTO THREE ONE ONE AND WHO HANDLED THAT AND GIVE THEM SOME ADDITIONAL EDUCATION.

BECAUSE IF IT WAS, YOU WERE TOLD, IF YOU TOLD THEM THAT IT WAS SICK, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A HIGHER PRIORITY AND THEY SHOULD HAVE ESCALATED THAT.

SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE INCIDENT.

MM-HMM.

.

WELL, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT I DID TELL THEM THAT IT WAS SICK, THAT IT HAD AN UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION.

AND I WAS TOLD THAT THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

THE FACT THAT THE CAT'S EYES ARE, ARE GLUED SHUT AND IT'S GOT AN UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION WAS NOT THE KIND OF SICK THAT, THAT THEY WOULD COME OUT FOR THAT, THAT KIND OF SICK THEY, THEY WOULD COME OUT FOR, WAS LIKE, IF IT WAS INJURED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT AN UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION WHERE THE CAT HAD ITS EYES CRUSTED SHUT, WASN'T SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD DO.

SO I, I WOULD DEFINITELY, THE 3 1 1 REP TOLD YOU THAT.

HUH? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE 3 1 1 REP TOLD YOU THAT NO.

ONE OF YOUR REPS TOLD ME THAT.

OKAY.

ONE, ONE OF THE WOMAN WHO I SPOKE TO WHO WAS WITH, UM, WHO WAS DIRECTING A RC, THE A RC, THE, AN THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, A CO WHO CAME OUT WAS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS AND WAS WONDERFUL.

AND I'VE MET OKAY.

EXCEPT THAT WE NEED MORE ACOS LIKE HIM.

COMMISSIONER NEER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, BUT YOU WERE, UM, WE LOST CONNECTION WITH YOU.

UM, OKAY.

AM I BACK? YES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF, OF TRAVIS AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY WHEN THEY FIND SICK AND INJURED ANIMALS.

WELL, WE CAN FOLLOW UP AND THEN JUST SEND A, A RECAP OF WHAT WE FIND ONCE WE TALK WITH DIFFERENT STAFF.

I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT, JASON.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

COMMISSIONER HOLT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO.

COMMISSIONER SULA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? SORRY.

IT'S HARD TO TELL SOMETIMES.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE.

COMMISSIONER LINDER.

UM, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, UM, WHICH IS MORE A CURIOSITY QUESTION, BUT LOOKING AT THE INTAKES BY ANIMAL, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE 'CAUSE THERE'S TWO, UM, THAT ARE DIFFERENT SHADES OF PURPLE.

ONE IS BIRD AND ONE IS LIVESTOCK.

UM, COULD YOU JUST TELL ME, UM, FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION, WHAT THE SHELTER'S POLICY IS WHEN YOU RECEIVE LIVESTOCK, WHAT KINDS OF CALLS THOSE WOULD BE? AND, UM, HOW DO YOU, UH, UM, DEAL WITH THOSE ANIMALS WHEN THEY COME IN? SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S LIVESTOCK LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, GOAT PIG, UM, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO HOLD IT FOR A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE FIND A PARTNER AND GET IT TO THEM.

IF IT'S A BIGGER LIVESTOCK, LIKE WE, WE HAVE IMPOUNDED A HORSE OR A COW, WE WILL WORK WITH TRAVIS COUNTY AT, UH, SHERIFF'S, SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THEY'LL HOLD THE ANIMAL.

YEAH.

THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE LAND AND BIG PENS THAT, THAT TAKE CARE OF THOSE.

AND WHAT ARE LIKE THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH YOU WOULD INTAKE LIVESTOCK? UM, USUALLY IT'S DONE THROUGH MAINLY LIKE A, A NA UH, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF DISASTER OR STORM.

IT GETS AWAY UNTIL WE CAN FIND THE OWNER.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANKS.

AND, AND THEY DO THE A PD DOES FIND, YOU KNOW, GET A CALL EVERY NOW AND THEN SURE.

FOR A, A STRAY COW THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR SOMETHING OUT THE RURAL AREA, SO.

OKAY.

UH, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S WHEN THOSE WOULD COME IN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS BOTH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS DR. BRUCE? I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, IS ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT STILL OPEN THE VETERINARY POSITION? IT IS.

AND HAVE YOU BEEN RECRUITING FOR THAT OR IT IT WAS POSTED AGAIN RECENTLY.

UH, WE DID INCREASE THE SALARY AND, UH, WE DID POST ON SITES THAT WE HAVEN'T IN THE PAST.

UH, TRYING SOME DIFFERENT AVENUES.

UH, SO, UH, SOME OF THE PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY VETERINARIANS MM-HMM.

, UH, YOU KNOW, HSUS, LET'S SAY THAT, OR, UH, ANIMAL WELFARE ASSOCIATIONS.

SO WE TRIED SOME DIFFERENT AVENUES AS WELL.

SO HAS THERE BEEN DISCUSSION OF ACTUALLY HIRING A RECRUITER FOR THIS POSITION? 'CAUSE IT'S A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL POSITION TO BE ALLOWED TO BE EMPTY WHEN WE'RE IMPLEMENTING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE NEW PROGRAMS ASSOCIATED WITH BEHAVIOR THAT REALLY NEED MORE SPECIALIZED VETERINARY ATTENTION.

I'M, I'M CURIOUS WHAT, WHAT USE OF A RECRUITMENT AGENCY HAS BEEN PURSUED AT THIS POINT? UH, NOTHING.

WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR THAT, SO WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THAT OPTION.

IS THERE EMERGENCY BUDGETING THAT CAN BE DONE? I MEAN, IF YOU WERE TO STEP DOWN OR ONE OF THE EXECUTIVES WERE TO STEP DOWN, WHERE WOULD MONEY FOR RECRUITMENT FOR THOSE HIGH LEVEL POSITIONS COME FROM? PROBABLY FROM CITY HALL BUDGET.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION TOO.

UM, THE

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NUMBER OF TRANSPORT PARTNERS HAS GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A, A BIG DEMAND ON PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PULL ANIMALS AND THAT EVERYBODY IS FULL.

BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS WITH YOUR RECENT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MONETARY INCENTIVE.

UM, I WAS CURIOUS HOW INCENTIVIZING PULL OF LONGER STAY AND LARGE BREED DOGS HAS GONE.

AND IF THAT HAS BEEN, UM, IF YOU'VE MADE, IF WHOEVER'S IN THAT POSITION HAS REACHED OUT AND MADE PERSONAL CONTACT WITH PREVIOUS GROUPS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PULLING FROM THE NORTHERN STATES TO IDENTIFY THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE, EVEN THOUGH THEY TELL US THE SAME THING THAT, UM, THEY'RE GONNA PULL FROM OTHER SHELTERS THAT ARE AT NO KILL STATUS OR, YOU KNOW, IN THE 70 AND 80 PERCENTILES VERSUS OUR 97, WE STILL, WE REACH OUT AND TOUCH BASE WITH THEM, UH, PERIODICALLY JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE FULL.

WE STILL NEED YOUR HELP.

UH, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO? UH, WE DID HAVE, UM, WHEN WE PUT OUT THE NOTIFICATION THAT ANY RESCUE PARTNER THAT PULLED, UH, YOU KNOW, A LARGE KENNEL FROM US, UH, WAS WE WOULD GIVE THEM $150.

WE HAD NO, NO TAKERS.

WE DID UP THAT TO TWO 50 AND WE HAD ONE RESCUE GROUP THAT PULLED FOUR MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALL.

SO I WAS INVOLVED WITH THAT RESCUE PULLING THOSE ANIMALS AND THEY WERE, UM, NEEDED THE PERSONAL EDGE FROM ME TO, TO DO THAT.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS IF WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, JUST CONTACT FROM A-A-C-A-A-C IF MORE RESCUES WOULD PULL WHEN THAT INCENTIVE IS OFFERED.

JUST LIKE I SAID, I, I HAD TO PUSH A LITTLE BIT TO BE INVOLVED IN THOSE, BUT IT DID INCENTIVIZE THAT GROUP AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS MARKETED OR HOW WIDELY IT WAS MARKETED, BUT IT DID ASSIST IN THE POLLS THAT I HELPED WITH.

EVERY ACTIVE PARTNER IN OUR DATABASE RECEIVED THE SAME MESSAGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS A REQUESTED CAN I, SORRY, JUST COMMISSIONER HOLT.

SORRY, JUST SUPER QUICK ABOUT THE TRANSPORT THING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE POLICY.

'CAUSE I'M NOT ON THAT LIST.

IT'S $250 FOR ANY RESCUE PARTNER THAT PULL, THAT PULLS A LARGE DOG.

THIS IS JUST THE FIRST I'M HEARING OF THAT.

THAT'S FANTASTIC NEWS.

I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WIDE WIDESPREAD THAT INFORMATION IS AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO BE PART OF GETTING THE WORD OUT AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE IT CORRECT.

UH, WE, WE PUT OUT, UH, TWO WEEKS FOR THE $150 FOR ALL OUR PARTNERS WITH NO TAKERS.

WE INCREASED IT FOR TWO 50 PER MEDIUM TO LARGE DOG THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKES UP A LARGE KENNEL FOR TWO WEEKS.

AND, UH, WE HAD FOUR THAT LEFT.

I THINK THE TWO WEEKS HAS ENDED LAST WEEK AND WE MAY HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.

AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT OUT ANOTHER NOTIFICATION, UH, THIS WEEK.

SO THAT'S NOT CONTINUED.

IT WAS LIKE A, IT WAS A TWO WEEK, IT WAS A TWO WEEK TRIAL TO HELP BUILD SPACE.

I'LL JUST FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER HOLT, IF YOU GUYS COULD LET US KNOW, UM, WHEN YOU DO THAT CONTEMPORANEOUSLY, WE COULD HELP SPREAD THE WORD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

LET'S MOVE TO

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ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS A REQUESTED STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING FISCAL YEAR 2023 ACTUAL EXPENDITURES, INCLUDING PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR EACH ANIMAL SERVICES PROGRAM.

IE SHELTER SERVICES, FIELD SERVICES AND SPAY UTER.

THE FINANCIAL SERVICES OFFICE, UH, SENT AN ATTACHMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH YOUR PACKET.

UH, I THINK IT SAID A SO INFORMATION REQUEST ON THE TOP OF IT FOR 2023.

IT SHOWED, UH, YOUR EXPENDITURES FOR 2023 IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES OF THE SHELTER SERVICES, FIELD SERVICES AND PREVENTATIVE SERVICES.

AND THEN IT SHOWED OUR TOTAL OVERALL EXPENDITURES.

AND THEN IT LISTED, UH, THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS, UM, IN THE 24 COLUMN.

UH, SO, SO FAR WE ARE AT, UH, APPROACHING 50% AND I THINK WE ARE RIGHT AT 52% IN OUR OVERALL SPEND FOR THE, THE WHOLE BUDGET.

BUT THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS THAT, UH, PREVENTATIVE SERVICES, UM, LIKE THAT IS IN THE SPAY AND NEUTERING AREA.

WE SPENT 1.7 MILLION LAST YEAR.

WE'RE AT 1.3 SO FAR THIS YEAR.

UH, WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS OF COURSE TO SPEND THIS YEAR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE AGENDA, BUT UM, ON THE SPAYING AND NEUTERING, WE ARE, UH, FINALIZING A CONTRACT WITH, UH, GREATER GOOD CHARITIES TO COME IN AND DO MASH STYLE CLINICS, UH, EVERY TWO TO FOUR MONTHS.

THE FIRST ONE WILL BE IN AUGUST.

IT'S THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT'S FINISHING IT UP, AND THEN IT'LL HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

UM, THAT,

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UM, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL START IN AUGUST AND THAT'LL BE A, A CONTRACT FOR A YEAR SERVICE TIME.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE BACKUP MATERIALS, HE ALSO, UH, GAVE YOU THREE DIFFERENT LINKS.

AND IT, YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRILL DOWN TO THAT WHEN YOU PICK ANIMAL SERVICES.

IF YOU GO TO SHELTER SERVICES, THEN IT'LL EVEN BREAK IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER.

SO YOU CAN DRILL DOWN ON, YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S BEING SPENT IN THOSE, THOSE CATEGORIES.

SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE SEND 'EM OUR WAY.

UM, ALSO WE'VE INCLUDED OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES THERE.

THE ONE THING THAT THAT WEBSITE IS NOT DOING IS PUTTING IN THE GOALS.

EVEN THOUGH OUR GOALS ARE, WE PUBLISH THOSE AND THEY'RE PUT, WE, THOSE ARE SENT.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THE DROP IS RIGHT NOW.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU ON OUR, UH, PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR THE, UM, SPAYING AND NEUTERING, OUR GOAL THIS YEAR WAS 8,000 IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO FAR, THE FIRST, UM, FOUR MONTHS, WE'VE DONE 27, 23.

STARTED OFF IN OCTOBER AT 6 58, I THINK THIS IS IN THERE.

AND THEN IT, IT'S NOW 7 82 FOR THE LAST MONTH IN JANUARY.

THAT WAS RECORDED LAST FISCAL YEAR.

UH, WE DID 75 71 FOR THE TOTAL OF 2023 IN-HOUSE.

UH, OUR GOAL THIS YEAR IS 6,500 AND SO FAR, THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS WE'RE AT 1889.

AND LAST YEAR'S 23 TOTAL WAS 53 28.

JUST FOR A PURPOSE OF PUBLIC CLARIFICATION, SORRY, JUST FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE OF PUBLIC CLARIFICATION, WERE YOU ALSO DOING ITEM NUMBERS FOUR AND FIVE ON THE AGENDA? I THINK I JUST DID.

OKAY.

SO THAT WAS ALSO STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND ALSO STAFF BRIEFING ON THE YEAR TO DATE PROGRESS ON SPAY NEUTER.

SO LET'S JUST LUMP THOSE TOGETHER.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ITEMS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE? UM, DR. NELSON, OH, SORRY.

IS THERE ANY WAY IN WHICH, UM, THE IN-HOUSE SPAY AND NEUTER NUMBERS, DOES IT ALSO INCLUDE, LIKE THEORETICALLY IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE IN, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THERE'S A CEILING ON THE, IN-HOUSE SPAY AND NEUTER? YOU COULD DO THAT'S BELOW YOUR GOAL IS DOES MY QUESTION MAKE ANY SENSE? I MIGHT YOU NOT HAVE ENOUGH CATS AND DOGS IN HOUSE THAT NEED SPAY AND NEUTER TO MEET YOUR GOAL.

THAT LAST WEEK WE COULDN'T FILL UP THE SURGICAL SET SCHEDULE BECAUSE EV EVERYTHING THAT WAS AVAILABLE THAT WAS OFF STRAY HOLD, THAT WASN'T SICK.

UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, LET'S SAY THERE WE HAD COULD DO, YOU KNOW, 25 SURGERIES THAT DAY AND THERE WAS TIM ONLY AVAILABLE.

SO YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT IS AVAILABLE.

YES.

UM, AND THE INFORMATION PERSON, YOUR DATA PERSON IS BEING ONBOARDED? YES.

HE STARTED, HE'S, HE'S, UH, BEING ONBOARDED RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

STARTING HIS THIRD WEEK.

OKAY.

THIS SEEMS LIKE AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF DATA.

IF HE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SH TO SH TO SHOW THIS LIKE OF, OF THE NEED OF SPAY AND NEUTER IN-HOUSE, WHAT ARE YOU MEETING? SEEMS LIKE AN IMPORTANT MEASURE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL HAVE, UH, DR.

ELLIOT TALK TO HIM ABOUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW OF OUR POPULATION, HOW MANY ARE AVAILABLE FOR SURGERIES AND HOW MANY ARE NOT AVAILABLE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL ON STRAY HOLD OR THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A URI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE PROBABLY COULD PUT INTO A DASHBOARD.

THANK YOU DR. BRUCE.

I AM CURIOUS WHERE THE GOALS COME FROM FOR SPAY NEUTER BECAUSE WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY ASKING PEOPLE TO PERFORM THOUSANDS MORE SURGERIES THAN THE GOAL IS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EMANCIPET, UM, CONTRACT, IT'S FOR, I DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I THINK FOR 9,000 JUST WITH EMANCIPATE.

AND THEN THE HUMANE SOCIETY IS CONTRACTED FOR ANOTHER LIKE 1200.

SO THAT PUTS US AT 10,000 SURGERIES.

AND HISTORICALLY WE'VE BEEN OVER 10,000.

SO I'M, I'M CONFUSED WHY THE GOAL IS STILL SO LOW FOR THAT.

WELL, THE, THE, THE, THE LAST TIME WE HIT 10,000 WAS IN 2019 AND THE, THEN THEY HAD, UH, YOU KNOW,

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5,900 IN 2020.

AND THEN IN 21 AND 22 THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, FORTY NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN HUNDRED.

AND SO I THINK WE WERE SETTING GOALS THAT WE THOUGHT REALISTICALLY THEY COULD HIT OR, OR GET CLOSE TO.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY RABIES VACCINATIONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN WITH THE CURRENT, UM, CONTRACT? I DO NOT.

BUT UH, THAT INFORMATION WE WOULD HAVE, WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, EMANCIPATE RIGHT NOW TO SET UP A MEETING BECAUSE, UH, SOME OF THE DATA THEY'RE SENDING, IT'S NOT COMING ACROSS, UH, WHERE IT'S EASY TO COMPILE.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AT THE WORKING GROUP OR WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT HERE TOO.

UM, MY IMPRESSION IS THAT WE HAVE AN EMAN A PET CONTRACT FOR SPAY AND NEUTER AND WHEN THEY GO OUT FOR SPAY AND NEUTER, THEY ALSO DO VACCINATIONS.

BUT MY IMPRESSION IS THAT THERE'S BEEN MISSION DRIFT AND THAT THE MOBILE UNIT GOES OUT TO DO VACCINE CLINICS.

IS THAT CORRECT? IN WHICH THERE IS NO SPAY AND NEUTER PERFORMED.

WE DO HAVE RABIES CLINICS THAT, UH, ARE SCHEDULED TO BE DONE.

UH, NOW EMANCIPATE DOES ON THEIR OWN.

THEY ALSO HAVE, UH, WELLNESS VACCINATION CLINICS TOO.

TWO, WHICH IF FULLY STAFFED WOULD BE SPAY AND NEUTER CLINICS.

BUT THEY HAVE DAYS THAT THERE'S NO SPAY NEUTER DONE.

BUT THE CITY PAYS FOR THE WELLNESS CLINIC.

NO, NOT ALL OF THEM.

BUT THAT DOES HAPPEN.

RIGHT? WE, WE PAY FOR RABIES.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, GOING BACK TO THE STAFF BRIEFING ON THE BUDGET PORTION, CAN YOU JUST, UM, EXPLAIN KIND OF WHICH SERVICES FALL UNDER EACH OF THE HEADINGS THAT ARE OUTLINED THERE? THE SHELTER SERVICES, THE FIELD SERVICES, AND THEN THE PREVENTION.

THE PREVENTION SERVICES.

UH, SURE.

UNDER, UM, PREVENTION SERVICES, THAT IS WHERE YOUR SPAYING AND NEUTERING COMES IN, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE DO OUR RABIES CLINICS AS WELL.

UH, SO THAT'S, UH, IF, IF ALSO IF SOMEONE CAME INTO THE SHELTER AND WAS NEEDING SPAYING AND NEUTERING AND WE PROVIDED A VOUCHER, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD COME OUT AS WELL.

OKAY.

UM, FIELD SERVICES, THAT IS YOUR ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS AND THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, AS WELL AS YOUR PUBLIC HEALTH EDUCATORS.

AND THAT SHELTER IN WHAT? IN THAT SHELTER? I CAN'T SAY THAT PART.

WHERE WHERE ARE YOU THAT SERVICES COUNTY FAMILY CARE, UH, VET SERVICES AND SOME KENNELING AS WELL AS SHELTER SERVICES.

BROUGHT SHELTER SERVICES, VET SERVICES, KENNELING, UH, YOUR PET PLACEMENT.

PET PLACEMENT AND UH, PRC.

THOSE RESOURCES FALL UNDER THAT AT AND IF YOU, IF YOU WITH THOSE LINKS THAT DRIVE THE BUDGET, IF YOU CONTINUE TO CLICK ON THOSE, IT'LL KEEP EXPANDING THEM AND IT'LL GO DOWN TO EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.

AND WHAT'S INCLUDING IN THAT DEPARTMENT? DR.

UH, SORRY.

COMMISSIONER LINDER.

HEY, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ALL SORT OF RELATED.

SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS ONE DAY IN WHICH YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO FILL ALL THE SURGERY SLOTS THAT HAD BEEN ALLOCATED.

SO, UM, MY SORT OF OVERARCHING QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL WHEN THAT HAPPENS? AND THEN SORT OF WITHIN THAT, I'M WONDERING, I KNOW, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON A FINDER TO FOSTER PROGRAM.

HOW DO THOSE ANIMALS GET SPAY NEUTERED? IS THERE A MECHANISM TO BRING THOSE ANIMALS INTO THE SHELTER? WE ALSO HAVE A VOUCHER SYSTEM AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING, YOU KNOW, MANY MONTHS FOR SURGERIES.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SLOT THOSE FOLKS IN IF YOU DO EVER HAVE AVAILABILITY, OR COULD YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE SLOTS? I'LL TAKE THE LAST ONE FIRST.

UH, WE CAN'T TAKE IN AS A MUNICIPAL SHELTER, WE CAN'T WORK ON AN OWNED ANIMAL.

SO THOSE DO HAVE TO GO TO EMANCIPATE.

THOSE PEOPLE WE'VE GIVEN VOUCHERS TO, IF THEY'RE OWNED ANIMALS, UM, SO THOSE WOULD, WOULD GO OUT THERE.

THE FINDER TO FOSTER, THEY DO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT FOR THEM TO COME BACK IN AFTER THE ANIMAL HAS BEEN HELD LONG ENOUGH TO BE OFF STRAY HOLD, THEY DO SCHEDULE THE APPOINTMENT FOR THEM TO COME IN AND, AND HAVE THEIR SURGERY DONE.

I THINK IT'S IN TWO WEEKS.

OKAY.

I THINK TWO WEEKS, UH, IS IS WHEN THEY SCHEDULE THOSE TO COME IN.

AND SO WE, UH, TRY TO FILL THESE SLOTS.

IF, UH, WE CAN'T FILL THEM WITH FOSTERS OR INTERNAL, THEN THAT JUST GIVES THOSE VETS SOME TIME TO WORK WITH THE OTHER ANIMALS THAT ARE ON SITE.

SO.

SO IS THERE A, I GUESS, A WAIT LIST OF PEOPLE IN THE FINDER TO FOSTER PROGRAM

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WAITING TO GET THEIR ANIMALS SPIED? OR ARE ALL OF THEM ABLE TO GET IN WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER THAT THEY HAVE THE ANIMAL OR WHAT'S THE AVERAGE WAIT TIME IN THE FINDER TO FOSTER PROGRAM NOW? I, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE HAS, I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT ANYONE'S HAVING TO WAIT LONGER THAN THEIR TWO WEEK PERIOD TO GET IN.

THEY SCHEDULING THEM TO COME IN AT TWO WEEKS AND THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT THAT.

THANKS.

HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, DR. BRUCE.

I HAVE MORE, OH, SORRY.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD SCHEDULE IS JUST REGULAR FOSTERS.

SO IF THERE'S ANY PUPPIES OR WHATNOT, THEY FINALLY REACH HIS AGE AND THEY'RE NOT SICK, THEN WE WILL SCHEDULE THOSE ANIMALS TO TRY TO COME IN.

BUT THOSE ARE USUALLY A SET SCHEDULE BECAUSE OUR FOSTERS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO MAKE TIME TO COME IN AND WHATNOT.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN, HEY IT GUYS, IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK, CAN YOU BRING THE ANIMAL? 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

SO IT, IT'S SORT OF SCHEDULED THAT WAY.

DR. BRUCE, UM, I KNOW HISTORICALLY AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER HAS NOT DONE, UM, SURGERY ON ANIMALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON MEDICATION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY AGAINST THE SPAY NEUTER GUIDELINES.

AND THERE'S BEEN RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PAST TO ACTUALLY DO SURGERY ON THOSE ANIMALS.

UM, SO I'M CURIOUS IF YOUR CURRENT MEDICAL DIRECTOR HAS REVIEWED THOSE BEST PRACTICES AND MADE ANY CHANGES SUCH AS TAGGING THOSE ON AT THE END OF SURGERY OR ACTUALLY ADDING THOSE ONTO SURGERY DAYS WHEN YOU ARE HAVING SLOWER DAYS.

'CAUSE I KNOW THOSE ARE ANIMALS THAT CAN GET CLOGGED UP IN THE SYSTEM.

SO I WAS CURIOUS IF, UM, SINCE HAVING A NEW MEDICAL DIRECTOR, IF THAT'S BEEN READDRESSED IT HAS NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I KNOW THAT IF, IF THEY ARE, UH, SICK AND, UH, IN ISOLATION, THEY'RE NOT BRINGING 'EM INTO THE SURGERY CENTER TO HAVE SURGERY.

COMMISSIONER LINDER LAST ONE, I PROMISE.

UM, I'M CURIOUS, UH, JUST GOING BACK TO THE VOUCHER SYSTEM FOR A SECOND.

UM, DO YOU KNOW, IS THERE A FORMALIZED LIST OF EVERYONE WHO'S RECEIVED A VOUCHER OR SOME SORT OF LIKE ELECTRONIC DATABASE OR QUEUES THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE SYSTEM OR, UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT, THAT WORKS? IS THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE UNIFIED PLACE PEOPLE CAN GO AND, AND SEE THEIR STATUS? MOST OF THE VOUCHERS ARE GIVEN AT EMANCIPET AND I DON'T KNOW THEIR PROCESS ON HOW THEY KEEP UP WITH THOSE, BUT I KNOW WHEN THEY GO OUT TO DO, UH, AN OFFSITE CLINIC AND THEY HAVE 25 SLOTS AND 50 PEOPLE SHOW UP, 25 OF THOSE GET VOUCHERS.

AND HOW THEY KEEP UP WITH THAT, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW THEIR PROCESS.

YOU CAN ASK.

YEAH, WE CAN SURE ASK WHEN WE HAVE THEIR MEETING WITH THEM.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT, COMMISSIONER SM HI, SORRY.

UM, I, I'M NOT CATCHING AT ALL, BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT TWO WEEKS FOR SPAY AND NEUTER FOR BINDER TO FOSTER.

AND SO IF IT, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, STRAY HOLD IS OVER AT 72 HOURS.

WHY ARE YOU WAITING AN ADDITIONAL, UM, 11 DAYS BEFORE THOSE ANIMALS ARE SPAYED AND NEUTERED? I DON'T KNOW.

UH, I HAVE TO VERIFY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS WE, THE DECISION WAS MADE JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE VACCINES THAT WERE GIVEN THE ANIMAL AT FIRST ARE TAKING HOLD SO THAT WAY AND THEY'RE NOT SHOWING ANY SORT OF SICKNESS BEFORE.

SO IT WAS REALLY JUST THAT SORT OF, LET'S BE SURE BEFORE WE, WE PUT THE ANIMAL'S IMMUNE SYSTEM THROUGH A, A HEAVY HIT WITH THE SURGERY WHEN, WHEN WE WERE HAVING DISTEMPER, UH, WE WERE VACCINATING AND SENDING ANIMALS OUT FOR TWO WEEKS BEFORE THEY CAME BACK INTO THE SYSTEM JUST TO GET THOSE VACCINATIONS IN THEIR SYSTEM.

DR. NELSON, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.

WHEN EMANCIPATE GIVES A VOUCHER, IS THAT FOR SPAY AND NEUTER AT A PRIVATE VET CLINIC? NO, IT'S FOR ONE OF THEIR CLINICS.

IT TO COME BACK.

ONE OF THEIR BRICK AND MORTARS? YES.

OKAY.

TO COME TO ONE OF THEIR BRICK AND MORTARS.

CORRECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND I WANTED TO CORRECT SOMETHING.

UM, I THINK THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT AS A SHELTER YOU COULDN'T PERFORM VETERINARY SERVICES ON A OWNED ANIMAL.

THERE'S ACTUALLY AN EXCEPTION FOR, UM, SPAY NEUTER THAT'S IN SECTION 8 28 0.012 B OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.

STATE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.

YES.

OUR VETS, WHEN, WHEN, UH, ARE WE HAVE AN ANIMAL AND THEY'RE RECLAIMING IT, IF THEY WILL SIGN THE, THE CONSENT FORM, WE WILL SPAY A NEW TO THAT OWNED PET.

BUT WE DON'T TAKE 'EM FROM THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IMPOUNDED WITH US.

YEAH.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STATEMENT WAS MADE THAT IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL TO, FOR THE SHELTER TO OPERATE IN UNKNOWN ANIMAL.

SO LONG AS YOU HAVE THE CONSENT OF THE OWNER YES, YOU CAN UNDER 8 28 0 1 2 B.

SO IF THERE WAS SOMEONE WAITING UNDER THE HYPOTHETICAL THAT COMMISSIONER LINDER ASKED ABOUT THE LAW WOULDN'T PROHIBIT YOU

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FROM DOING THAT? I OBJECT.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON

[6. Discussion of the License Agreement Report from Austin Pets Alive]

TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. NUMBER SIX.

AND THIS IS REALLY A BRIEFING WITH QUESTIONS MORE OF A THAN A DISCUSSION ITEM.

UH, WELL MAYBE THIS IS DIFFERENT LICENSING AGREEMENT REPORT FROM AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.

IS THAT WHAT WAS INTENDED TO BE ON HERE? THE LICENSING AGREEMENT? I JUST PUT THE TITLE OF THE REPORT THAT WAS SENT AS THE ITEM AND WE CAN, IT'S THE QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE NORMALLY DO QUARTER.

OKAY.

UM, YOU WANNA PRESENT? YOU READY TO PRESENT? THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN GO AHEAD.

SURE.

MY NAME IS STEPHANIE RO.

IT'S NOT ON OIC.

UM, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE BILBOROUGH.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AT AUSTIN PITS LIVE.

UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ON OUR, UH, REPORTS FROM BOTH FEBRUARY AND MARCH.

SINCE THERE WAS NOT A MEETING LAST MONTH, UM, THEY BOTH WERE PROVIDED IN THE BACKUP, SO HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE THEM.

UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THEM.

BUT IT'S OUR NORMAL LAYOUT, THE FIRST PAGE OF BOTH SHOWS, UM, THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE TRANSFERRED FROM A A C IN THE MONTH, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE COMMUNITY INTAKES THAT WE TOOK IN FROM TRAVIS COUNTY.

UM, SOME INTAKE, ADOPTION, FOSTER NUMBERS, THEY'RE ON THE SECOND PAGE.

UM, WE ALSO ARE MAINTAINING ABOUT A 80 OR 90% SURVIVAL RATE, 30 DAY SURVIVAL RATE OF ALL OF OUR MEDICAL TRANSFERS.

UM, THIS YEAR, UM, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE KITTEN SEASON HITTING.

SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE OUR BOTTLE BABY NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP, UM, PROBABLY THROUGH THE FALL.

SO OUR TEAM IS DEFINITELY PREPARING FOR THAT.

UM,