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ORDER THE TIME IS SIX 10.

[CALL TO ORDER]

APRIL 22ND, 2024.

UM, I'M GONNA START WITH ROLL, UH, VICE CHAIR MINORS HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER CARROLL.

COMMISSIONER GILES.

HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD? HERE.

COMMISSIONER LADNER.

COMMISSIONER LEE.

HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER LUKINS.

COMMISSIONER MCKINNEY.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER WALLACE.

AND COMMISSIONER, WHICH DRUG? HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION SCHEDULED? NO, THERE'S NOT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE WILL MOVE TO THE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES (Part 1 of 2)]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.

UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE DESIGN COMMISSION FROM A REGULAR MEETING ON MARCH 25TH.

20, UH, 2024.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR FIRST ITEM

[2. Presentation by Lily Rerecich and Heidi Trudell, Travis Audubon Society, regarding bird-safe buildings. ]

FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, BY LILY AK AND HEIDI TRUDEL, UH, THE TRAVIS AUDUBON SOCIETY REGARDING BIRD SAFE BUILDINGS.

AND JUST A REMINDER, UH, YEAH, IF YOU ARE PLANT, IF YOU'RE REMOTING IN, YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON, UH, IN ORDER TO SPEAK WITH THE DESIGN COMMISSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

HELLO TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE DESIGN COMMITTEE AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS LOUIS IC.

I'M A MEMBER OF TRAVIS AUDUBON.

I VOLUNTEER WITH THEM, AND I'M A PART OF THEIR ADVOCACY COMMITTEE.

I ATTEND THE N RICHARD SCHOOL FOR YOUNG WOMEN LEADERS, AND I'M IN THE NINTH GRADE.

I'M ALSO AN AVID BIRD.

THE AUDUBON SOCIETY'S MISSION IS TO PROTECT AND CONSERVE BIRD LIFE.

AUSTIN IS A VERY SPECIAL AREA FOR BIRDS BECAUSE IT LIES DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THE CENTRAL FLYWAY FOR BIRD MIGRATION.

AND OUR AREA PROVIDES A PRIME STOP ON THESE LAIES WITH ITS RIVER HABITAT.

TRAVIS AUDUBON SOCIETY WAS FOUNDED IN THE 1950S WHERE FEARS OF DISAPPEARING HABITAT.

AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE SOCIETY HAS BEEN UNABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE RATE OF DEVELOPMENT SINCE THEN.

IN FACT, IN THE LAST FEW DECADES, BIRD POPULATIONS HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED, AND ALMOST 3 BILLION BIRDS HAVE BEEN LOST.

AT PRESENT, BIRD POPULATIONS ARE VERY FRAGILE.

OUR VERY OWN GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER, WHICH NEST ONLY IN CENTRAL TEXAS, IS ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST.

BECAUSE A BIRD COLLISION STRIKES WITH WINDOWS AND BUILDINGS, WE LOSE MILLIONS OF YEARS, BILLIONS OF BIRDS, SORRY, EVERY YEAR IN NORTH AMERICA, WHO WOULD OTHERWISE SURVIVE BY SIMPLY PERCEIVING GLASS AS A CONCRETE BARRIER.

THIS IS WHY THE TRAVIS OTTAWA SOCIETY HAS ASKED HEIDI TRUDEAU TO UPDATE THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL AND DESIGN COMMISSION ON HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR BUILDINGS MORE SAFE FOR BIRDS.

HEIDI TRUDEAU IS A TEXAS NATIVE.

SHE GREW UP HERE SURROUNDED BY THE UNPARALLELED BIRD LIFE THAT TEXAS OFFERS.

HER WORK WITH BIRD COLLISION, UM, BEGAN IN 2003.

IN OCTOBER OF 2023, HEIDI WAS IN CHICAGO TO PRESENT AT THE FACADE PLUS CONFERENCE.

HER PRESENTATION FOUND THE DAY AFTER THE MOST CATASTROPHIC BIRD COLLISION INCIDENT.

IN RECENT HISTORY, OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL HOURS, MORE THAN 960 SONGBIRDS STRUCK THE GLASS AND DIED AT THE MCCORMICK PLACE CONVENTION CENTER.

THOUSANDS MORE WERE REPORTED AS DEAD OR INJURED ACROSS THE CITY.

WE DO NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN HERE IN AUSTIN.

AUSTIN HAS QUALIFIED AS A BIRD CITY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS A BIRD SAFE.

PARDON ME.

UM, UH, HEIDI TRUDEL NOW LIVES IN ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN, AND SHE HAS RECENTLY BEEN HIRED BY GUARDIAN GLASS AS A TECHNICAL CONSULTANT WHERE SHE HELPS THE COMPANY AND ITS CLIENTS NAVIGATE BIRD SAFE BUILDING CODES AND DESIGN.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER AUDE, PLEASE WELCOME HEIDI TRUDEL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I HOPE Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF ADVANCING SLIDES IS GOING TO WORK ON YOUR END OR MY END.

UH, OH.

THANK YOU, .

SO A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

UM, I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON GEOGRAPHY AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

LILY TOUCHED ON THAT EARLIER, UM, BUT ALSO WHY THAT'S SO RELEVANT TO BIRD CONSERVATION.

AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO WHAT DESIGN AND

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ACTION LOOKS LIKE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL FLYWAY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A DIRECT PATH, SAY, FROM CANADA TO MEXICO AND CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA, UM, BUT DEPENDING ON WEATHER AND GENERAL CLIMATE PATTERNS, UM, YOU HAVE A, A VAST BAND OF BOTH SPECIES WITH DIFFERENT BEHAVIORS AND DIRECTIONS, UM, AND DESTINATIONS, UH, AND OBVIOUSLY LOCAL IMPACTS AT PLAY.

UM, SO TEXAS IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR BIRD CONSERVATION BECAUSE AS THAT PATH, UM, OF MIGRATING BIRDS MOVES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NORTH TO SOUTH AND EAST TO WEST, DEPENDING ON, UM, WEATHER CONDITIONS, TEXAS HAS THE MOST DEVELOPED CITIES IN THE SOUTH AS FAR AS BIRD MIGRATION GOES.

SO HOUSTON, DALLAS AND SAN ANTONIO ARE IN THE TOP THREE MOST DEADLY CITIES FOR BIRDS IN NORTH AMERICA.

CHICAGO'S NUMBER ONE FOR GEOGRAPHIC REASONS, UM, BUT TEXAS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE BIRDS GOING FROM CANADA TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA, UM, OBVIOUSLY SOME DO LINGER IN THE US, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN TO US? IF THESE BIRDS ARE ONLY PASSING THROUGH TEXAS, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF Y'ALL DRINK COFFEE, BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE BIRDS EATS INSECTS FOR A GOOD CHUNK OF ITS LIFE.

YES, EVEN HUMMINGBIRDS.

UM, THIS WAS DURING ONE LUNCH BREAK THAT I HAD ONE DAY AT ONE BUILDING.

SO OUT OF THESE BIRDS, THE ROBIN AND THE HUMMINGBIRD WILL NOT BE EATING, UM, PESTS AND COFFEE PLANTATIONS.

HOWEVER, THE REST OF THE BIRDS IN THIS PHOTO SPEND THEIR WINTERS ON COFFEE FARMS, EATING COFFEE CROP PESTS.

SO EVERY TIME A BIRD HITS YOUR WINDOWS, THERE'S A PRETTY DECENT CHANCE THAT IT IS ONE LESS BIRD.

UM, THAT COULD BE EATING COFFEE PESTS.

SO THE DIRECT CONNECTION THERE FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHY DO WE CARE? UM, THIS IS PESTICIDES IN OUR COFFEE IF WE DON'T ACTUALLY FIX THE PROBLEM.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S AWFUL FOR THE BIRDS TOO.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT AIR QUALITY AND WATER QUALITY ARE GOOD FOR PEOPLE.

IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR BIRDS.

CENTRAL TEXAS IS HOME TO PHENOMENAL NATURE.

THERE'S A REASON THAT EVERYONE LOVES IT.

YOU'VE GOT AMAZING PARKS IN NATURE, UM, AND GOLDEN WARBLERS.

I'M BIASED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND PART OF THAT ABSOLUTE TREASURE OF WHAT MAKES TEXAS SO SPECIAL BRINGS IN SO MUCH MONEY, IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY.

UM, BIRDERS SPEND $1.8 BILLION PER YEAR IN TEXAS.

IF BIRD WATCHERS IN TEXAS WERE A COUNTRY, THEY WOULD HAVE A HIGHER GDP THAN AT LEAST 12 OTHER COUNTRIES.

THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 11 MILLION WILDLIFE WATCHERS IN TEXAS ALONE, WHICH, UH, IS LARGER THAN THE POPULATION OF QUITE A FEW STATES.

SO TEXAS IS AN INCREDIBLY SPECIAL PLACE FOR BIODIVERSITY.

AND AUSTIN IS NOT JUST IN THE HEART OF THE STATE GEOGRAPHICALLY, BUT IN TERMS OF ECCO ECOLOGICAL REGIONS, IT'S PERFECT .

UM, DEFINITELY NOT BIASED AT ALL.

UM, BUT BECAUSE YELLOW ALSO COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING A BIRD CITY, UH, DESIGNATION, UM, IT, IT REALLY DOES, UM, MATTER THAT THE CITY PRACTICE WHAT IT PREACHES.

SO, YOU KNOW, ATTAINING STATUS IS A FANTASTIC MOVE.

UM, MAINTAINING IT THOUGH IS ANOTHER THING THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF, UM, CROSS DISCIPLINARY COOPERATION, AS IT WERE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, THE BASICS OF BIRD COLLISIONS ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

BIRDS CAN'T SEE GLASS.

IT'S EITHER CLEAR OR REFLECTIVE, BUT WHAT THAT ULTIMATELY MEANS IS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS TO LITERALLY BILLIONS OF BIRDS DYING EVERY YEAR IN THE US.

SO BIRD SAFE BUILDING STANDARDS ARE NOW POPPING UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UM, AS WELL AS CONTINENT.

CANADA'S DOING SOME, SOME GREAT WORK THERE, UM, BUT IT'S PART OF A MOVEMENT TO HAVE MORE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES.

UM, YES, THIS DOES FACTOR INTO CLIMATE RESILIENCE.

IT DOES MEAN, UM, BY PRESERVING AS MUCH NATURE AS YOU CAN.

UM, WE ARE, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR FUTURES.

SO EVERY BUILDING THAT WE MAKE BIRDS SAFE, BE IT NEW CONSTRUCTION, OR AS A RETROFIT, IS LITERALLY TANGIBLY SAVING DOZENS TO HUNDREDS OF BIRDS PER BUILDING PER YEAR.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.

WE CAN'T CHANGE THE FOOTPRINTS OF COAL PLANTS.

UM, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY GET OUR NEIGHBORS TO KEEP THE CATS INSIDE, BUT

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WE CAN VERY TANGIBLY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FORESIGHT, ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT BIRD CONSERVATION.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO AT THIS POINT, NO CITY IN TEXAS HAS A BIRD SAFE STANDARD.

UH, CALIFORNIA HAS ABOUT A DOZEN OF THEM, UM, MOSTLY IN THE NORTHERN BITS OF CALIFORNIA.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST A WEST COAST THING.

THE EAST COAST IS STARTING TO POP UP WITH ALL KINDS OF CODES, AND CHICAGO JUST RECENTLY PASSED ONE AS WELL.

NEXT, PLEASE.

SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT COSTS, AND YES, THERE IS A TYPO HERE, IT SHOULD BE 0.0021% TO 0.38%, UM, OF A TOTAL PROJECT COST.

WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE INHABITANTS OF THE BUILDING, THOUGH, ONCE IT'S BEEN CONSTRUCTED, IT MEANS THAT THOSE INHABITANTS OR OCCUPANTS OF THE BUILDING, UM, THEY DON'T NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT REHAB OR TO CALL WHEN AN INJURED BIRD IS FLAILING IN FRONT OF 'EM ON THE GROUND.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE DISTRACTED EVERY TIME THERE'S A THUMP AT THE GLASS.

THEY DON'T NEED TO BE REALLY DISTRAUGHT EVERY TIME THEY SEE A DEAD BIRD WALKING INTO THE BUILDING, THE PERSON WALKING INTO THE BUILDING, NOT THE DEAD BIRD WALKING INTO THE BUILDING.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT FACTOR, UH, NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED VERY EARLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE, IDEALLY SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE OR EARLIER, BECAUSE IF IT'S FACTORED IN THAT EARLY, YOU CAN CONSIDER, UM, YOUR THERMAL BENEFITS.

YOU CAN CONSIDER ALL KINDS OF OTHER, UM, GLARE MANAGEMENT, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

UM, BUT IF YOU ADD IT AT THE VERY TAIL END OF CONSTRUCTION, OR WELL CONSTRUCTION TOO, IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO FIX A BUILDING.

BUT, UM, WHEN IT'S END OF THE DESIGN PHASE, YOU END UP WITH LESS AESTHETIC CONTROL.

YOU END UP WITH MUCH HIGHER COSTS.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF GETTING AHEAD OF DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO YEAH, LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES MAKE IT REALLY BURDENSOME AT THE END OF DESIGN, BUT STAYING AHEAD OF IT AS WAY, GO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

COMPREHENSIVE CODES ARE WONDERFUL.

THEY ADDRESS THE SITUATION AT MORE OF A HOLISTIC LEVEL.

UM, THEY IDENTIFY WHAT SPECIFIC FEATURES ABSOLUTELY NEED TO HAVE BIRD SAFE, UM, CONSIDERATIONS, BUT ALSO THEY CAN INCLUDE INCENTIVES LIKE WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CARVE IN STONE WHAT REQUIREMENTS MAY BE.

UM, BUT OFFERING EITHER ADDITIONAL, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE, AN EXTRA FLOOR OR TWO ON A BUILDING, THINGS LIKE THAT TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, UM, CAN BE AN OPTION WHEN THESE CREDITS OR, UM, CODES ARE BEING CONSIDERED.

UM, THE IMPORTANT PART HERE TO LOOK AT IS GROUND LEVEL TO ABOVE MATURE TREE CANOPY HEIGHT, IDEALLY THE FIRST 100 FEET OF A BUILDING, UM, BUT REALLY SKYSCRAPERS, THOSE UPPER FLOORS ARE NOT THE CRITICAL STRIKE ZONE, AND THAT'S A, A VERY COMMON MISCONCEPTION.

SO, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UNFORTUNATELY, MOST CODES HAVE A TON OF LOOPHOLES THAT THEY MAY HAVE THE, THE WORD OF COLLISION PREVENTION, BUT THEY COMPLETELY MISS OUT ON THE SPIRIT OF IT.

UM, HAVING THE CODE ONLY REPLY TO BUILDINGS OF A CERTAIN SIZE, UM, WITHIN A CERTAIN DIS DISTANCE OF HABITAT, ALL OF THESE THINGS UNDERMINE THE ACTUAL EFFECTIVENESS OF ANY GIVEN CODE.

UM, SO BIRDS, BIRDS DON'T FOLLOW WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

INTO SOME OF THE MYTHS HERE.

LOW REFLECTIVITY GLASS IS NOT SAFE.

PEOPLE THINKING THAT PUTTING CLEAR GLASS ON A BUILDING SO BIRDS CAN SEE WHAT'S INSIDE IS NOT ACTUALLY HOW BIRDS OR GLASS WORKS.

PUTTING GLASS, UH, OR PROPORTIONING THE GLASS, UH, ON, ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE OF MIGRATION DIRECTIONS ALSO IS NOT REALLY A THING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO A BUILDING LIKE THIS, IT'S OVER 90% BRICK.

NEXT SLIDE.

BUT IT HAS TINY, TINY WINDOWS.

SO IN THEORY, THIS BIRD, THIS, THIS BUILDING SHOULD BE ENTIRELY BIRD SAFE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THIS BUILDING HAS DONE IS CREATED LITTLE TINY PORTALS THAT THE BIRDS THINK THAT THEY CAN FLY THROUGH.

INSTEAD OF HAVING THE STRIKES

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DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE BUILDING, IF IT HAD, YOU KNOW, REGULAR WINDOWS.

UM, IT JUST, IT HAS THE EXACT SAME NUMBER, UH, OF COLLISIONS AS A REGULAR BUILDING.

THEY'RE JUST CONCENTRATED IN A MUCH SMALLER AREA.

SO LANDSCAPING, UM, MASONRY, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE FACTORS IN HOW MANY BIRDS A BUILDING CAN KILL, BUT IT'S NOT A METHOD OF PREVENTION.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, RESOURCES ARE GETTING SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEY WERE IN 2003.

UM, IN 2003, IT WAS LIKE, HERE'S YOUR HAWK STICKER, HAWK STICKERS DON'T WORK.

UM, THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY IS A PHENOMENAL RESOURCE FOR EVERYTHING.

THEY'VE GOT PRODUCT REVIEWS.

UM, THREAT FACTOR RATINGS ARE KIND OF A COMPLICATED TOPIC, BUT THEY EXPLORE DIFFERENT BUILDING MATERIALS, UM, HOW THEY CAN BE USED ON BUILDINGS.

NOT ALL OF IT IS GLASS, BUT WITH GLASS YOU CAN HAVE ABRASIVE ETCH, ASSET ETCH, LASER ETCH, UH, CERAMIC FRIT.

THERE ARE UV PATTERNS.

ESSENTIALLY, ALL OF THESE MATERIALS WHEN SPACED APPROPRIATELY, UM, CAN BE USED TO MAKE A BUILDING BIRD SAFE.

STRUCTURAL SHADING IS A FANTASTIC THING BECAUSE IN TEXAS YOU NEED ALL THE SHADE YOU CAN GET, AND THAT CAN BE USED EVEN IF YOU'RE USING REGULAR GLASS.

STRUCTURAL SHADING CAN BE A COMPONENT OF PREVENTING BIRDS BIRD WINDOW STRIKES.

SO HIGHLY SUGGEST PERUSING THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY'S WINDOW COLLISION PAGES, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT ARCHITECTURE AND LEGISLATION.

UM, REALLY PHENOMENAL.

EVERY, EVERY SLIDE IN HERE COULD HAVE BEEN ITS OWN PRESENTATION.

A, B, C COULD BE WEEKS WORTH OF INFORMATION.

IT IS TRULY ONE OF THE MOST PHENOMENAL, UH, ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ONE OF THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST A LOT IS IF IT'S SUCH A CRITICAL THING, WHY AREN'T WE ALREADY DOING IT? AND WHY AREN'T LARGE CORPORATIONS SAVING BIRDS AS PART OF THEIR SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMS? UM, DRAWING THE DIRECT CONNECTION FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND THEN ATTACHING A DOLLAR SIGN TO IT SOUNDS REALLY SCARY UPFRONT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SEEING THE ACTUAL DOLLAR SIGN THAT THEIR CONSERVATION EFFORTS RESULT IN.

AND FROM A BIRDWATCHING PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE ECOTOURISM, UH, RAMIFICATIONS, LIKE THE, THE DOLLAR VALUE OF EVERY BIRD THAT MIGRATES THROUGH TEXAS IS SO MUCH MORE THAN PEOPLE REALIZE.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S BETTER FOR THE BIRDS IF THEY'RE ALIVE AS WELL.

SO GIVING FOLKS THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO MAKE THE DECISIONS IS REALLY CRITICAL, AND THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS POINT.

UM, BUT YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, YEAH, FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO FOLKS, HOW TO GET, UM, THE, THE CRITICAL BITS OF LIKE, IT, IT MIGHT NOT NEED TO BE A MANDATORY THING, BUT YOU CAN'T DO BETTER UNLESS YOU KNOW BETTER LEAD PAINT, ASBESTOS, LEAD PIPES, SMOKING INSIDE SEAT BELTS, LIKE ALL OF THESE THINGS CHANGED OVER TIME.

AND BIRD SAFE BUILDING IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THINGS ARE CHANGING FAST, WE'RE CHANGING IN A GOOD DIRECTION.

WE HAVE AN AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD FOR WILDLIFE ACROSS THE GLOBE, LITERALLY.

UM, AND I HOPE THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE DESIGN COMMISSION REPORT THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS.

AND I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

I THINK I'VE MIGHT HAVE GONE LONG, BUT, UM, IF WE'VE GOT TIME FOR QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE SOME NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, COMMISSIONER, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE OR IS THIS, IS EVERYBODY HERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS ONLINE? OKAY.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WELL, NO QUESTIONS FROM US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

TAKE CARE.

OUR NEXT ITEM, UH, WE IS FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, ONCE THE PRESENTATION, ONCE WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATION OR IT'S BEEN GIVEN

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TO US, UM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MO SOME, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION AND THEN FOR A SECOND, UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO DISCUSSION, DEBATE, UH, OR ANY QUESTIONS.

AND FROM THERE WE'LL DO ANY AMENDMENTS OR A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON IT.

JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE PROCEDURE.

UM, ALRIGHT.

OUR FIRST,

[3. Discussion and action to recommend to City Council the Sound Assessment and Disclosure Requirements Proposal. Presented by Brian Block, Development Services Department.]

UH, ITEM, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION, UH, IS, UH, TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL SOUND ASSESSMENT AND DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS PROPOSAL, UH, PRESENTED BY BRIAN BLOCK, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS, BRIAN.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

UH, AGAIN, MY NAME'S BRIAN BLOCK.

I'M THE NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND, UM, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO PRESENT, UM, THIS PROPOSAL, UH, AND SOUND ASSESSMENT AND DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

FIRST, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR YOU ON KIND OF WHERE THIS CAME FROM, UM, HOW THIS CAME TO BE.

UM, BIG PICTURE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS TOPIC OF IMPROVING COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN LIVE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT AND RESIDENTS FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN A COUPLE DECADES.

UH, MOST RECENTLY, UM, THIS, IT COMES FROM THIS 2018 RESOLUTION, UM, FROM CITY COUNCIL THAT WAS PRETTY OPEN-ENDED AND HAD A LOT OF THINGS IN IT.

THERE'S, UM, SOME THINGS NOT DONE YET, AND STILL ON THE WORK PLAN, THIS IS ONE OF 'EM.

UM, AND WHAT THAT RESOLUTION DID WAS DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PROPOSE PROGRAMS, RULES AND ORDINANCES NECESSARY TO IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN RESIDENTS, LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS, AND MUSIC RELATED BUSINESSES.

AND THEN, JUST AS A CONTEXT, UM, THIS WAS PART OF COUNCIL EFFORTS TO SUPPORT MUSIC AND ARTS AND CULTURE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO MUCH HAS BEEN DONE, UH, SINCE 2018 AND LONG BEFORE 2018 TO ENSURE THAT SOUND LEVELS FOR MUSIC RELATED BUSINESSES ARE REASONABLE AND THAT RESIDENCES MAINTAIN LIVABILITY AND THAT COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCE ENFORCEMENT IS RESPONSIVE AND EFFECTIVE.

WE'VE GOT A VERY ROBUST, UM, ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, A PERMITTING PROGRAM FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC.

UM, WE'VE MADE CHANGES TO COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RESPONSIVE.

UM, BUT POLICY RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RESPONSIBILITY IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DESIRED AND IS STILL OUTSTANDING, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

UM, JUST OVERALL, IN ADDITION TO THE SOUND ORDINANCE AND ENFORCEMENT, THE CITY'S SOUND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SHOULD ALSO ANTICIPATE AND ADDRESS QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES FOR RESIDENCES IN PROXIMITY TO NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS IN DISTRICTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO A BIT ON THE POLICY GOALS.

UM, OF COURSE, IMPROVED COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN ENTERTAINMENT USES WITH AMPLIFIED SOUND AND RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL USES TO ANTICIPATE PLAN FOR AND MINIMIZE COMMON CONFLICTS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL USES AND ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND, UM, THAT HAPPEN WHEN, UM, WE'RE NOT PROACTIVE ABOUT, ABOUT MANAGING IT.

AND THEN TO THE REAL HEART OF IT, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS ENSURE ACCURATE EXPECTATIONS THERE ON THE LEFT.

THAT'S WHAT THESE TWO KIND OF THE MAIN CONTENT ARE ABOUT.

ENSURING RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS UNDERSTAND THE SOUND LEVELS AND THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING SO THEY CAN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING, CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, THOSE CODE COMPLIANT SOUND LEVELS FROM NEARBY ENTERTAINMENT USES.

AND CONSIDERING THAT SOUND IMPACT.

AND THEN ALSO ENSURING EXPECTATIONS BY PROVIDING RESIDENTIAL AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND NEW RESIDENTS MOVING INTO THOSE NEW BUILDINGS WITH ACCURATE EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THE SOUND LEVEL

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THAT WOULD BE PRESENT IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND JUST MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS BEFORE THEY BUY OR LEASE A UNIT OR PROPERTY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, THIS IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE APPROACH AND THEN I'LL, IT'S SLIGHTLY LONGER, BUT NOT MUCH THE DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, WHAT WE THINK THIS IS, IS A COMMON SENSE SOLUTION.

IT'S NOT PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT FOCUSES ON EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.

AND WHAT IT WOULD DO IS REQUIRE RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENTS NEAR OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES AND PERFORMANCE VENUES TO DO TWO THINGS.

ONE IS TO CONDUCT A SOUND ASSESSMENT, AND THE SECOND IS TO DISCLOSE TO FUTURE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY SELL OR LEASE THE UNITS ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF THOSE NEARBY VENUES.

AND JUST THE FACT THAT A SOUND ASSESSMENT WAS CONDUCTED.

NEXT SLIDE.

BEFORE I KIND OF GO INTO THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION, A LITTLE BIT OF JUST BACKGROUND AND MORE INTENT INFORMATION ON IT.

UM, THE INTENT IS TO PROMOTE EDUCATION AND INFORMED DECISIONS.

IT'S NOT TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE, IT DOESN'T MANDATE BUILDING STANDARDS.

INSTEAD, IT REQUIRES RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS TO DOCUMENT THAT THEY'VE STUDIED THE SOUND LEVELS IN THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING.

AND OF COURSE, THIS INCLUDES ASSESSING THE IMPACT OF LEGALLY COMPLIANT SOUND FROM NEARBY MUSIC IN NIGHTLIFE ESTABLISHMENTS.

AND THEN, AS I SAID, ALREADY, DEVELOPERS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THE PRESENCE OF THE NEARBY, UH, VENUES, AND THAT A SOUND ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN CONDUCTED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THE INTENT BEHIND THAT IS THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE DISCLOSURE, POTENTIAL NEW RESIDENTS, UM, WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED.

THEY'RE ENCOURAGED TO ASK QUESTIONS AND BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

UM, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS APPROACH DOESN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES OR PERFORMANCE VENUES.

AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT A ROBUST, UM, ENTERTAINMENT RELATED SOUND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND SYSTEM.

THEIR SOUND LEVEL'S ALREADY REGULATED.

THEY HAVE A FIXED SOUND LEVEL.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN EVALUATED FOR APPROPRIATENESS FOR THEIR CONTEXT, AND IT'S PRE PREDICTABLE.

IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHEN NEW RESIDENTIAL IS BUILT NEARBY.

SO THIS IS MORE ABOUT, UM, RESIDENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE, UM, ACCURATE EXPECTATIONS.

UM, THAT'S THE FOCUS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THESE ARE THE DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, AND THAT IS TO REQUIRE NEW RESIDENTIAL REQUIRING A SITE PLAN AND HOTEL AND LODGING DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITHIN 600 FEET OF AN ESTABLISHMENT WITHIN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT OR, AND OR WITHIN 300 FEET OF A PERFORMANCE VENUE.

TO DO THE TWO THINGS I I'VE MENTIONED, ONE, CONDUCT A SOUND ASSESSMENT THAT AT A MINIMUM DOCUMENTS THE CURRENT SOUND CONDITIONS AT THE SITE AND ASSESSES THE PROJECTED SOUND LEVEL INSIDE THE BUILDING.

UM, AND THEN PROVIDE A DISCLOSURE WHEN UNITS ARE SOLD OR LEASED AND WHEN THE BUILDING IS SOLD REGARDING THE PRESENCE OF THE PERMITTED OMV ESTABLISHMENTS WITHIN 600 FEET AND PERFORMANCE VENUES WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE BUILDING, AND THAT A SOUND ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE A LITTLE BIT ON THE CRITERIA FOR THE SOUND ASSESSMENT.

UM, REALLY IT'S UP TO THE PROJECT OWNER, DEVELOPER OR THE ARCHITECT AND DESIGN TEAM, UM, TO KIND OF HIRE AN ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT.

IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A QUALIFIED ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT, UM, TO DO THE SOUND ASSESSMENT.

IT'S NOT PRESCRIPTIVE BEYOND, UM, YOU KNOW, ASSESSING THE SOUND LEVEL AT THE BUILDING SITE.

UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND ONE WE WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE.

UM, THE SOUND ASSESSMENT SHOULD BE CONDUCTED DURING PEAK HOURS FOR A LIVE PERFORMANCE VENUE.

THAT MEANS DURING A PERFORMANCE FOR A BAR OR A NIGHTCLUB THAT'S NOT CENTERED ON PERFORMANCE, THAT SHOULD BE DURING THEIR PEAK HOURS, OFTEN THAT THAT COULD BE 10:00 PM

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TO 2:00 AM BUT WHATEVER THEY ARE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY, I THINK I'VE POINTED IT OUT, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S REALLY CLEAR.

THIS IS FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENT REQUIRING A SITE PLAN.

THE CHANGES WOULD NOT IMPACT PROJECTS ALREADY SUBMITTED FOR PLAN REVIEW AND THE CHANGES ARE NOT RETROACTIVE AND WOULDN'T APPLY TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BUILDINGS.

THE GOAL HERE IS TO GET THE PROJECT DEVELOPER THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED THAT WILL BE USEFUL AND IMPACTFUL, UM, WHEN IT CAN MAKE AN IMPACT, WHICH IS DURING, UM, THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, AS THEY'RE DOING, UM, DESIGN FOR THE BUILDING.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE WANTED TO BE KIND OF GIVE A LOT MORE BACKGROUND ON IMPLEMENTATION AND THE INTENT ON THE IMPLEMENTATION.

WHAT'S INTENDED IS A SIMPLE CERTIFICATION PROCESS WITH NO STAFF REVIEW DURING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

UM, SO WHAT WE ENVISION IS THE SOUND ASSESSMENT REQUIREMENT BEING ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN CHECKLIST SO THE PROJECT OWNER AND APPLICANT ARE AWARE THAT IT, UM, IS REQUIRED.

UM, AND IT IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT HERE THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE PART OF COMPLETENESS CHECK.

IT'S NOT REQUIRED BEFORE SITE PLAN REVIEW.

IT WOULD BE ANY TIME DURING SITE PLAN REVIEW.

UM, WE'VE CREATED A MAPPING TOOL FOR EASY IDENTIFICATION OF, UM, RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM, WITHIN 600 FEET OF OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES OR 300 FEET OF A PERFORMANCE VENUE.

THE MAPPING TOOL, EASY TO USE BY THE APPLICANT AND STAFF JUST TYPE YOUR ADDRESS INTO THE MAPPING TOOL AND IT WILL POP UP THE VENUES WITHIN 600 FEET.

UM, WHAT THEY ARE, HOW FAR THEY ARE AWAY, WHAT THEIR HOURS ARE, WHAT THEIR SOUND LEVELS THEY'RE APPROVED FOR.

UM, SO IF THE SOUND ASSESSMENT IS REQUIRED, AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT COMPLETES THE SOUND ASSESSMENT DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS ANYTIME DURING IT.

UM, AND THEN THEY SUBMIT A CERTIFICATION THAT THE ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED.

UM, THEY DON'T COM SUBMIT THE ASSESSMENT ITSELF, UM, JUST THE CERTIFICATION THAT IT WAS DONE AND STAFF ENSURES THAT THAT CERTIFICATION'S BEEN SUBMITTED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AS I SAID, WE'RE NOT, STAFF ISN'T GETTING THE SOUND ASSESSMENT AND THERE'S NO STAFF REVIEW OF THE SOUND ASSESSMENT.

THERE'S NO REQUIRED APPLICANT RESPONSES OR MANDATED BUILDING STANDARDS BY THE APPLICANT.

THE GOAL HERE, UM, IS TO HAVE AS LIGHT OF A TOUCH AS POSSIBLE ON THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

SO IT DOES NOT IMPACT, UM, THE LENGTH OF TIME DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TAKES AND ALSO, UM, ENSURING THAT IT DOES NOT IMPACT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.

THOSE ARE GOALS BUILT IN HERE.

UM, SO THAT'S THE, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW SIDE.

UM, THE DISCLOSURE PART, THE APPLICANT PROVIDES THE DISCLOSURE WHEN THE UNITS BEFORE THE UNITS ARE SOLD OR LEASED.

UM, IT'S A WRITTEN, UH, A WRITTEN NOTICE.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC WAY THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT.

UM, IT'S UP TO THEM HOW TO DO IT.

IT'S A, A WRITTEN NOTICE BEFORE THEY EXECUTE THE SALE OR THE LEASE.

UM, AND POINTING OUT HERE THAT IF THE TRIGGERING VENUES ARE NO LONGER PRESENT, UM, THAT DISCLOSURE WOULD NO LONGER BE REQUIRED.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS OUR TIMELINE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE WE HAD TWO PUBLIC INFORMATION FEEDBACK SESSIONS.

ONE WAS IN PERSON AND ONE WAS VIRTUAL.

WE'VE ALREADY PRESENTED TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION, ARTS AND DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

WE'RE HERE WITH YOU AT THE DESIGN COMMISSION.

WE HAVE LEARNED THAT MAY 30TH WAS OUR TARGET DATE.

UM, IT'S LOOKING UNLIKELY THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE ON THAT AGENDA.

UM, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, FIRMING UP WHAT THE ACTUAL COUNCIL DATE WILL BE.

UM, THE CHANGES, UM, WOULDN'T

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GO INTO EFFECT BEFORE OCTOBER ONE, REGARDLESS OF THE COUNCIL DATE.

UM, SO WE ARE HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION.

HOWEVER, UM, GIVEN THE DATE CHANGE AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION HAS ASKED US, UM, TO JUST PRESENT IN APRIL AND COME BACK FOR A RECOMMENDATION AT THEIR NEXT MEETING, WE COULD, UM, DO Q AND A AND DISCUSSION.

WE CAN GET A RECOMMENDATION, BUT IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES IT, WE COULD ALSO COME BACK SINCE OUR COUNCIL DATE HAS BEEN DELAYED AND DOWNTOWN HAS ASKED US TO COME BACK.

UM, SO THAT IS THE PRESENTATION.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND, UM, GO FROM THERE.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP TO FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ACTUALLY, UM, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT? I, SO, ALL RIGHT.

SO I GUESS THE GENERAL QUESTION, IF WE, UH, DON'T GET A MOTION ON THIS AND THEN WE JUST WANNA DISCUSS IT, UH, Q AND A AT, DO WE JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH Q AND A? YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.

YOU CAN ALSO MAKE A MOTION AFTER SOME Q AND A IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT SINCE, UM, SINCE WE DID HAVE THE PRESENTATION.

AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO, UH, FOR DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER MCKINNEY, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, IF YOU, IF THIS MAPPING TOOL, UM, TELLS YOU THE APPROVED SOUND LEVELS FOR THE VENUE PROXIMATE TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT, THEN WHY IS THE SOUND ASSESSMENT REQUIRED? WHY WOULDN'T THE DISCLOSURE JUST STATE THAT THERE IS A VENUE WITHIN 600 FEET OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS APPROVED FOR SOUND LEVELS FROM X DECIBELS TO Y DECIBELS? YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

SO WHY IS THE SOUND ASSESSMENT NECESSARY IF YOU ALREADY KNOW AS THE CITY, WHAT THE APPROVED SOUND LEVELS ARE? SO I GUESS TWOFOLD.

ONE IS THE WAY SOUND TRAVELS AND THE WAY IT IMPACTS DIFFERENT BUILDING SITES, UM, IS VERY SITE SPECIFIC.

AND SO THAT IMPACT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE DIFFERENT AT DIFFERENT SITES BASED ON WHAT'S IN BETWEEN, HOW SOUND IS TRAVELING, HOW IT'S REFLECTING.

UM, AND I GUESS, SO THAT'S KIND OF NUMBER ONE IS THEY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW AT EACH BUILDING SITE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE EXACT IMPACT IS GONNA BE.

AND I GUESS THE SECOND POINT WOULD BE THE GOAL REALLY IS THE, THE KIND OF THE PRIMARY GOAL REALLY IS THAT THE APPLICANT, THE PROJECT OWNER DEVELOPER, UM, WOULD GET REALLY THE INFORMATION THEY NEED AT A TIME WHERE THEY CAN, IF THEY CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, MAKE AN IMPACT, MAKE SOME JUST DESIGN DECISIONS THAT COULD IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE NEARBY VENUE.

MAYBE THERE ARE SIMPLE THINGS THEY CAN DO, MOVE THE BEDROOMS, YOU KNOW, UM, CHANGE THE TYPE OF WINDOWS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE BIRD SAFE, UH, DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS.

BUT IF THEY, AND AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE BIRD, SAFE TO DISCUSSION, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE INFORMATION SO THEY CAN TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT, BUT NOT TO MANDATE WHAT THEY DO WITH IT.

TO KIND OF LEAVE THAT UP TO THE PROJECT DEVELOPER AND APPLICANT.

AND, AND OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND, AND YOU ALL CAN PROBABLY TELL ME IF THIS IS TRUE, UM, A LOT OF PROJECTS, THE ARCHITECT WILL ADD AN ACOUSTICAL CONSULTANT TO THE DESIGN TEAM.

THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACE.

MAYBE THEY'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF MECHANICAL NOISE OR SOUND FROM ROOM TO ROOM INSIDE THE BUILDING.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT, OUR THOUGHT IS THAT THIS WOULD BE A SMALL AD SERVICE.

OKAY.

AND THEN DOES THIS APPLY TO RENOVATIONS OF EXISTING

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HOTELS OR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS? SO THE CRITERIA IS THAT IF A SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED, HOW DOES THIS WORK FOR A, I MEAN, WE AS A COMMISSION FREQUENTLY ENCOURAGE A LIVELY GROUND FLOOR AT A LOT OF OUR DOWNTOWN, UM, DENSITY BONUS PROJECTS.

AND I THINK WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL COME THROUGH WITH SOME SORT OF SMALL MUSIC VENUE.

HOW DOES THE, DOES THE SAME? I MEAN, HOW DOES THIS APPLY TO AN ONSITE VENUE WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO TEST? AND SO THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY FOR A RESIDENTIAL OR HOTEL DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE'S AN EXISTING VENUE NEARBY.

IF IT'S IN THE SAME BUILDING AND THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING BOTH THE VENUE AND THE BUILDING, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT.

AND YEAH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, UM, THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO FURTHER INCENTIVIZE CULTURAL PERFORMANCE SPACES, UM, OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

AND SO THAT'S DESIRED.

AND I GUESS WE DON'T WANNA SUGGEST THAT LIVE MUSIC AND PERFORMANCE SPACES, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE AN ASSET AND SOMETHING THAT ALSO ADDS TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO WE DON'T WANNA SUGGEST THAT THAT'S A NEGATIVE.

UM, JUST THAT THERE BE CONSIDERATION DURING DESIGN, UH, OF THE SOUND IMPACT.

AND THEN HOW DO HOTELS INFORM PATRONS OF THIS? DOES, WHEN I SIGN MY ACCEPT FROM HILTON AND THEY SEND ME THE, THE 900 PAGE, TWO POINT FONT, IS THIS JUST INCLUDED IN THAT? UM, LIKE HOW, HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY GIVING THIS TEETH FOR HOTELS SPECIFICALLY? I MEAN, RESIDENTIAL, IT, IT'S GONNA COME IN THE SAME FORMAT, RIGHT? IN MY DISCLOSURE THAT I IS THAT ALL IT IS IS JUST THE TINY TYPE THAT GETS INCLUDED IN THAT.

FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UP TO THE OWNER OR REALTOR HOW THEY WANNA PROVIDE THE WRITTEN NOTICE.

IT'S UP TO THEM.

IT WOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE SALE OR THE LEASE IS EXECUTED.

FOR HOTELS, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO NOTIFY GUESTS ONLY WHEN THE BUILDING IS SOLD FOR A HOTEL.

I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HOWARD? UM, I'M CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS OVER TIME, UM, IN DISTRICTS THAT, UM, ALLOW, UH, OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUES OR AMPLIFI AMPLIFIED SOUND.

UM, AS NEW VENUES COME ONLINE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SOUND IS SPENT IS KIND OF JUST A SNAPSHOT ON TIME.

WHY HAD YOU GUYS CONSIDERED JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYBE A NOTIFICATION TO, UH, ON SALE OR TO, TO, UH, WITH, WITH LEASE THAT SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, VENUES WITH THIS, THIS ALLOWED LEVEL OF NOISE WOULD, COULD BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE IN, IN THIS DISTRICT AND YOU'RE WITHIN 360 OR 300 TO 600 FEET OF THOSE? SO I GUESS ONE THING TO MAKE SURE, I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.

UM, NEW VENUES, ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH OUTDOOR MUSIC, REQUIRE A PERMIT.

AND SO THEY'RE ASSESSED AND EVALUATED BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, THE CONTEXT, AND IF THERE'S RESIDENTIAL NEARBY, UM, THEY'RE ALREADY EVALUATED AND MAYBE LIMITED BASED ON THAT.

UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, UH, THE CONTEXT MATTERS, IF IT'S, UH, VIBRANT, ROBUST ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT LIKE SIXTH STREET OR THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW RESIDENTIAL ISN'T LIKELY TO IMPACT WHAT VENUES CAN DO.

UM, BUT IN MORE MIXED USE AREAS, AND ESPECIALLY IN MORE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THERE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THE, THAT WOULD BE, UM, A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN WHAT THE VENUE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO.

SO THAT'S ALREADY, THERE'S ALREADY A ROBUST SYSTEM TO MANAGE THAT.

WHAT

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WE DON'T HAVE IS ANYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE NEW VENUE WILL BE EVALUATED AND MAYBE LIMITED BASED ON THAT NEARBY RESIDENTIAL.

YEAH, IT SEEMS, I GUESS THAT, THAT SEEMS A LITTLE STRANGE TO ME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE THESE USES AND POTENTIALLY STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND THESE DISTRICTS AND ALLOW THEM ELSEWHERE, BUT WE'RE NOT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES A PROTECTION FOR THEM.

UM, IF IT, IF IT WERE ABOUT A LOT, YOU KNOW, UH, CLEARING THE WAY FROM THOSE, FROM THOSE KIND OF RESIDENTIAL, UM, BARRIERS TO THESE CULTURAL VENUES, I COULD SEE THAT.

BUT I, I, I GUESS I DON'T REALLY SEE THE, THE BENEFITS PROVIDING TO THE VENUE, TO THOSE CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

I THINK THE BENEFIT IS THAT THE BUILDING WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION IT NEEDS ON SOUND IMPACT AND WILL, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY'RE DESIGNING AND BUILDING AND WILL HAVE A MORE COMPATIBLE AND COHESIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS NEARBY AND THE VENUE.

IT'S REALLY, THE GOAL IS TO THAT, THAT, THAT IDEALLY COMPATIBILITY WILL BE INCREASED AND EVERYONE WILL LIVE IN HARMONY.

THE RESIDENTS WILL ENJOY THE CULTURAL VENUES NEARBY, UM, AND THEIR UNITS WILL BE, UM, LIVABLE AND BE ABLE TO SLEEP IN THEM AND WILL BE WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING, REALLY.

I MEAN, IF THEY'RE EXPECTING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT TO BE, TO HAVE SOUND IN, IN THE, AT THE BUILDING OR IN THE UNIT, THEN, THEN THAT'S FINE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE BEVERLY NEAR STUBBS IN MOHAWK, UM, THEY'RE, I ASSUME EVERYONE VERY WELL AWARE THAT WHILE THOSE VENUES ARE OPERATING, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SIGNIFICANT SOUND IN THEIR UNIT, VICE CHAIR MINORS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THERE A CATALYST FOR THIS AND HOW IS THIS MITIGATED RIGHT NOW? IS IT LIKE A SMALL CLAIMS THING? 3 1 1, LIKE HOW, WHAT IS THIS SOLVING? SO THE, THE CATALYST IS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION ASKING US TO WORK ON THIS.

THERE WAS, THERE'S BEEN PREVIOUS ENGAGEMENTS ON THIS TOPIC.

REALLY, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.

YOU KNOW, THE EARLIEST I SAW WAS IN 2000, LATE NINETIES OR EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WHEN WE WERE FIRST KIND OF CREATING THIS PERMIT REQUIREMENT FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP AS FAR BACK AS THEN THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME RESPONSIBILITY ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

IN 2013, THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO KIND OF WORK ON BUILDING STANDARDS, UM, IN HIN, I GUESS IT, IT PROBABLY WASN'T THE BEST APPROACH, IT WAS A PRESCRIPTIVE APPROACH, IT ASKING FOR LAMINATED WINDOWS, WHICH REALLY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ATTENUATE LOW, UM, KIND OF LOW FREQUENCY SOUND.

IN 2017, THIS KIND OF CAME UP AGAIN AS UNFINISHED WORK, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WASN'T COMPLETED.

AND WE GOT THIS RESOLUTION IN 2018 AND IT'S STILL OUTSTANDING.

UM, THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE EFFORTS TO DO IT THAT THE STATE LEDGE GOT IN THE WAY OF, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LONG, THE LONG HISTORY.

WHAT WAS THE SECOND QUESTION? JUST HOW IS IT CURRENTLY MITIGATED? IS IT LIKE A, LIKE A SMALL CLAIMS TYPE THING? I MEAN, ARE, ARE THERE, I GUESS, UM, RESIDENTIAL OR HOTELS THAT, UH, ARE BEING SUED? LIKE DOES THIS TAKE AWAY THE LIABILITY? LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY, IT ISN'T BECAUSE IF THE VENUE'S IN COMPLIANCE AND IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY COMPLIANCE OR ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.

SO I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT HARM, HARMONIOUS LIVING, COMPATIBILITY, QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, LIVABILITY DOWNTOWN AND IN OUR MIXED USE DISTRICTS, THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL.

AND EVERYONE APPRECIATING THE CULTURAL AND LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND, UM, HOPEFULLY INCREASING HARMONY AND COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN RESIDENTS NEARBY AND THE, THE LIVE MUSIC AND CULTURAL AND NIGHTLIFE VENUES.

COMMISSIONER WALLACE, CAN I MAKE A MOTION JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TRYING TO LIKE GUIDE DIALOGUE IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER? UH, I MOTION THAT WE DO NOT RECOMMEND, UH,

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THIS PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL.

I SECOND THAT.

ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS? ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER, RE CHAIR? THANK YOU.

UM, A, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, FIRST, I DO APPRECIATE THE CARE THAT'S GOING IN TO TRY TO MAKE THIS AS LIGHT A TOUCH AS POSSIBLE AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO IT.

UM, THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, I STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW, UM, HOW WOULD THE ENFORCEMENT HAPPEN FOR THE, THE, THE LANDOWNERS OR THE SALES OR THE, OR THE SALES.

UM, IS THERE ANY, UM, APPARATUS THAT, THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT ENFORCEMENT? YOU SAID THAT HOTELS DON'T, WOULDN'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENT, BUT WHAT, WHAT IS THE ENFORCEMENT, UM, AND ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES? RIGHT.

SO WE DON'T ENVISION, UM, AN APPARATUS TO KIND OF ACTIVELY IN, UH, GO OUT AND MONITOR AND ENFORCE THE DISCLOSURE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN CITY CODE.

UM, IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME PENALTIES AS OTHER THINGS IN CITY CODE.

UM, WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, AS THE PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE THE ASSESSMENT GO THROUGH SITE PLAN REVIEW, WE'LL BE DOCUMENTING THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO PRODUCE A LIST.

UM, SO THAT'S AVAILABLE TO FOLKS.

UM, DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION, THOUGH, ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AND DOES HOW THAT WOULD WORK? IT DOES, YEAH.

AND IT'S SORT OF A PRECURSOR TO THE, THE, MY BIGGER QUESTION IS, ARE THERE, ARE THERE CURRENT ORDINANCES THAT, THAT REQUIRE THESE SORT OF, THIS SORT OF THIS EXTRA STEP OF SITE PLAN FOR SAY, UH, SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLIGHT PATH OF THE AIRPORT? UH, OR ALONG I 35 OR A MAJOR ARTERIAL? IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE BIGGER SOUND ENEMIES, UM, AND, AND POLLUTION SOURCES THAN LIVE MUSIC.

AND IT FEELS A LITTLE ODD TO ME THAT WE'VE CHERRY PICKED THIS ONE, GIVEN THAT THE DECIBEL LEVELS OF OTHERS HAVE LESS, UM, REGULATION.

UH, I THINK, I GUESS THE ANSWER WHY THIS ONE'S BEEN PICKED IS REALLY ON THE SIDE OF SUPPORTING MUSIC, ARTS AND CULTURE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SO THE, UM, MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS THAT THE DESIGN COMMISSION DOES NOT SUPPORT, UH, THE SOUND, UH, ASSESSMENT AND DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS AS PROPOSED, UH, BY THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF NOT SUPPORTING THIS, SAY, AYE, UH, P OF ORDER.

I'M SORRY, SIR.

ARE WE REGARDING TO NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION OR NOT SUPPORT THE, THE RESOLUTION? NO.

TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.

TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

YES.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

IT'S, UH, THE MOTION IS PASSED.

SORRY, MR. BLOCK.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION

[4. Discussion and action to recommend to City Council whether the project Mexic-Arte Museum Renovation, located at 419 Congress Avenue, complies with the City Design and Sustainability Standards. Presented by Matt Catterall, Levy Dykema.]

AND ACTION, UM, IS THE PROJECT MTE, UH, MUSEUM RENOVATION, UH, LOCATED AT FOUR 19 CONGRESS AVENUE, UH, THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY DESIGN AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS, UH, PRESENTED BY MATT CATTERALL OF LEVY DEMA.

MR. CATTERALL? MR. KARO, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'M MATT CATTERALL WITH, UH, LEVY DYMA ARCHITECTS, AND I'M PRESENTING, UH, THE ME CARTE MUSEUM ON THE CORNER OF FIFTH AND CONGRESS.

UH, WE ARE THE LOCAL, UH, ARCHITECTS WORKING

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WITH UHGO ARCHITECTS FROM EL PASO, UM, ALSO HERE.

SO SYLVIA OROZCO, THE DIRECTOR OF THE MUSEUM, IS HERE, AND SHE'LL SPEAK TO SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF OUR ITEMS. UM, AND ALSO HERE IS, UM, THE PROJECT MANAGER FROM CAPITAL DELIVERY, UH, DANIEL YEN, UH, PAUL MENDOZA, THE PROJECT MANAGER, PROJECT MANAGEMENT SUPERVISOR WITH CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES, MARTINE BETA WITH, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ONLINE, UM, PAULINA LAGOS, WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER, WITHO ARCHITECTS AND STEWART, UH, SORRY.

AND YES, STEWART HIRSCH, WHO IS A BOARD MEMBER, UM, WITH, UH, MEXICO CARTOON TWO MUSEUM.

AND, UM, ALSO ONLINE IS, UM, IS, UH, ESTEBAN GONZALEZ, WHO WITH CIVIL MILITUDE, UM, CIVIL ENGINEERS, AND HE CAN SPEAK TO SOME ITEMS AS WELL.

UM, SO WE'RE AT THE, UH, DESIGN COMMISSION BECAUSE THE PROJECT, UM, IS FUNDED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH, UM, VOTER SUPPORTED BOND INITIATIVES IN 2006 AND 2015.

AND SO IT'S REQUIRED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE DESIGN COMMISSION.

UM, SO WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE ASKING, UH, FOR A MOTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE DESIGN OF THE MEXICO ART MUSEUM PROJECT IS IN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.

UM, IT HAS BEEN TO A PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW, UM, FOR SITE PLAN, UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING IT TO COMMERCIAL PLAN REVIEW FOR, UH, PRELIMINARY PLAN REVIEW AFTER THIS MEETING.

UM, SO METE IS OCCUPIED THE BILL BUILDING AT FIFTH IN CONGRESS SINCE 1988.

MM-HMM, .

UM, AND CURRENTLY, UM, THE BUILDING IS ONLY TWO THIRDS OCCUPIED.

UM, IT IS STRUCTURALLY ON SOUND IN THE UPPER FLOORS, AND THEY CAN'T OCCUPY THAT FLOOR.

AND IN ADDITION, IT ISN'T SUITABLE FOR A CONTEMPORARY ART MUSEUM, UM, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THE ENVELOPE.

UH, IT AND LIFE SAFETY, FIRE SAFETY, STRUCTURAL, PRETTY MUCH EVERY ASPECT OF IT.

UM, AND, UM, ONE OF THE, UM, REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT IS THAT, UM, MEXICO T ISN'T CURRENTLY ABLE TO GET ACCREDITATION THROUGH, UH, THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF MUSEUMS, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE, THE, THE PRIMARY ACCREDITATION, UM, AGENCY, UM, IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF RAMIFICATIONS FOR THAT.

IN PART, THEY CAN'T GET LOANS FROM OTHER INSTITUTIONS, UH, OF ARTWORK.

UM, AND I'M SURE THERE'S MUCH MORE.

UM, UM, AND SO WOULD YOU GO TO, I GUESS THAT WAS SLIDE ONE, PLEASE.

UM, SO THIS ISN'T, I THINK THIS IS THE APPLICATION DOCUMENT.

I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER DOCUMENT AND I CAN GET IT FOR YOU.

IF YES, WE'LL GET THAT PRESENTATION UP IN A MOMENT.

WHERE IS IT? HMM? WHERE IS IT? OKAY, SO, UM, THIS SLIDE, THIS IS THE CURRENT, UM, MEXICO TEA MUSEUM, UM, FIFTH IN CONGRESS.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.

UM, SO THE ZONING, UM, AT THE SITE IS CBD, UM,

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CONGRESS AVENUE OVERLAY, UH, CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR, UM, GREAT STREETS, CONGRESS AVENUE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

AND IN ADDITION, UM, IT'S A CORNERSTONE PROJECT, UM, FOR THE FIFTH STREET MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE CORRIDOR, UM, WHICH SYLVIA HELPED ESTABLISH.

UM, AND, UH, ESTEBAN WITH, UH, SUDE WILL TALK PROBABLY MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT HOW WE'RE MEETING THE GREAT STREETS REQUIREMENTS, UH, WITH SIDEWALK TREES, UH, SHADE STRUCTURE ON CONGRESS AVENUE, WHICH WAS A HISTORIC SHADE STRUCTURE, UM, WHICH CURRENTLY IS AN, UH, ALTERNATE, UM, DUE TO FUNDING.

UM, AND IN THE SITE PLAN, UM, RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE ON THE CONGRESS AVENUE, UM, IT HAS THE CENTRAL ENTRY.

UM, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THAT ENTRY HAS BEEN MOVED DOWN PLAN SOUTH, UM, BUT IT'S STILL THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE THERE ON CONGRESS.

UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, A, UH, LOADING AREA.

UM, AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, UM, THAT LOADING AREA IS PRIMARILY FOR SCHOOL BUSES.

UM, IT ISN'T PRIMARILY FOR LOADING IN THE, UM, UH, THE ARTWORK.

UM, METE HAS, UM, SCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT THEY RUN WITH A ISD, UM, WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDENTS LOADING AND UNLOADING.

AND, UM, THE SAFETY, UM, FOR THAT IS, UH, IS PRIMARILY, UH, WHY THE LOADING ZONE IS THERE.

UM, AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS A SCHEMATIC SECTION THAT'S JUST SHOWING WHERE THE CAPITAL VIEW COURT IS.

WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

IT'S, IT'S A VERY HIGH UP.

UM, AND ALSO THE CONGRESS AVENUE OVERLAY HAS STEP BACK REQUIREMENTS AND WE'RE, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE STEP BACK REQUIREMENTS.

AND, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE CANOPY, UM, SHOWN THERE IN THAT, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO HERE'S OUR A RENDERED SECTION THAT, UM, IS A GOOD WAY TO SORT OF, UM, ORIENT, UM, EVERYTHING IN THE PROJECT.

UM, THE, UH, THE BUILDING HAS A, A GROSS, UM, AREA OF ABOUT 25,700 SQUARE FEET.

IT IS THREE STORIES, UM, JUST LIKE THE EXISTING BUILDING, EXCEPT THE FLOOR TO FLOOR IS A LOT TALLER, UM, THAN THE EXISTING BUILDING.

UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE, UM, THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF MUSEUMS HAS SPECIFIC CRITERIA ABOUT FLOOR TO FLOOR HEIGHTS FOR EXHIBITION SPACES, UM, TO MAKE IT, UM, FLEXIBLE FOR SHOWING ARTWORK.

UM, SO ON CONGRESS AVENUE, THERE'S A LOBBY THAT YOU CAN SEE.

UM, AND, UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ON THE, UM, ON THE WALL, UM, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIFTH STREET WALL.

INSIDE, THERE ARE TWO MURALS THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THE MUSEUM, UM, RECENTLY THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON A PERMANENT INSTALLATION ON THAT WALL.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S LOADING, UH, TOWARD THE ALLEY, UH, ONE ELEVATOR, UM, WHICH IS BOTH SERVICE, UM, AND, UH, PASSENGER ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, EXHIBITION SPACES PRIMARILY, UM, ON THE CONGRESS AVENUE SIDE, UM, WITH EDUCATION SPACES, UM, TO THE REAR.

AND, UM, AND THEN THE, THE OFFICE, UH, THE MUSEUM'S ADMINISTRATION SPACE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, UM, ON THE WEST SIDE.

AND THEN, UM, SPACES FOR, UH, PREPARING ARTWORK, UM, AND, UM, PREPARING THE RINES COLLECTIONS, UM, AND THOSE KIND OF, UM, SHOP SPACES.

THE, UM, THE ROOF, UM, SO THERE'S A ROOF, THIRD FLOOR AND, OR, SORRY, FOURTH FLOOR.

THERE'S A MECHANICAL, IT'S MECHANICALLY, UH, MECHANICAL SPACES CURRENTLY ON THE ALLEY SIDE.

UH, BUT THE FLOOR IS DESIGNED STRUCTURALLY TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, A FUTURE FOURTH FLOOR AND ALSO A ROOF SPACE.

UM, BOTH OF THOSE ARE NOT IN THE PROJECT, UH, CURRENTLY.

UM, AND

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THOSE WILL BE IN FUTURE PHASES, BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, UM, THE ADMINISTRATION SPACES ON THE THIRD FLOOR ARE GOING TO BECOME, UH, EXHIBITION SPACES AND THOSE ADMINISTRATION, UM, SPACES MOVE TO THE UPPER FLOOR.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR, UM, SOME REASONS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ON THE FIFTH STREET ELEVATION.

UM, ONE THING IS THAT, UM, THE EXHIBITION SPACES REQUIRE, UM, REAL CAREFUL CONTROL OF UV LIGHTING.

UM, SO LIGHTING NOT ONLY FOR HOW ARTWORK IS DISPLAYED, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT'S VERY DAMAGING TO SOME TYPES OF ARTWORK, ESPECIALLY WORKS ON PAPER, UM, PRINTS.

AND THE MUSEUM HAS AN EXTENSIVE PRINT COLLECTION, UM, AND DRAWINGS AND PHOTOGRAPHS AS WELL.

UM, AND SO IT IS REAL, THE, THAT ELEVATION IS BEING CAREFULLY CONTROLLED FOR THAT REASON.

AND FOR MURAL PROGRAMS, UM, WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL, UH, IN A, IN A PRIMARY FUNCTION, UM, WITHIN THE MUSEUM.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, SO THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR, UM, WITH A SHOP THAT'S SHOWN IN THE, UM, NORTHWEST CORNER, THE MUSEUM STORE, UM, WHICH IS, UH, VITAL TO THE MUSEUM'S, UM, FUNCTION FINANCIALLY.

UM, AND THE LOBBY, OR SORRY, ENTRANCE, UH, VESTIBULE SHOWN, UH, PLANNED SOUTH FROM THERE.

UM, AND SO THERE WOULD BE, UH, AN ENTRY DESK AND, UM, AND THEN STAIR TAKING UP TO THE EXHIBITION SPACE.

THE SPACE BEHIND THE STAIR, UM, IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING IS, UM, AN EVENT SPACE AND ALSO AN EXHIBITION SPACE.

UM, AND THEN BACK OF HOUSE SPACES ARE TOWARD THE ALLEY.

UM, THE ALLEY IS REALLY BEING RESERVED FOR, UM, THE MOST BACK OF HOUSE SPACES.

THERE'S, UH, THE REQUIRED, UM, UH, TRANSFORMER VAULT ON THE ALLEY, AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR IT TO BE LOCATED THERE.

UM, TRASH SPACES WILL ALSO BE, UH, ON THAT SIDE.

SO THE LOADING IS SHOWN ON THE FIFTH STREET SIDE, UM, WITH A LARGE OVERHEAD DOOR, UM, AND THEN A SALLY PORT, UM, TO CONTROL, UH, SECURITY AND, UM, AN ENTRY AND EXIT FROM THE BUILDING, UM, TO THE EAST.

UM, FROM THERE, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THE LARGEST AREA OF THAT IS THE EXHIBITION SPACE.

UM, AND THEN WITH, UM, CLASSROOM SPACES, UH, AND, UM, IN SOME OF THOSE CLASSROOMS, IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, FUNCTIONS THAT GO ON THERE.

THERE'S ART MAKING, I THINK, ART EDUCATION, UM, BUT ALSO, UM, THERE IS A PRINT SHOP, UM, ON THAT FLOOR WHERE SILK SCREENING, UM, TAKES PLACE, UM, MAY RUN, UH, PROGRAMS TO TEACH, UM, UH, SILK SCREEN PRINTMAKING, UM, TO STUDENTS.

UM, AND SOME OF THESE SHOP SPACES WILL PROBABLY ALSO BE INVOLVED WITH THE, UH, DAY OF THE DEAD, UH, AND THE MAKING OF, UM, COMPONENTS FOR THE, UM, FOR THAT PARADE THAT GOES ON EVERY YEAR.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE THIRD FLOOR AND THE, UM, NORTHWEST CORNER.

THAT'S THE, UM, ADMINISTRATION OFFICES IN THERE.

UM, AND, UM, SO FULL-TIME STAFF, INTERNS.

UM, AND THEN, UM, A LOT OF, UH, BACK OF HOUSE SPACES.

THERE'S COLLECTION STORAGE ON THIS FLOOR.

UM, AND THERE'S ALSO, UM, UH, SHOPS FOR, UM, FOR CARPENTRY FRAMING WORK AND, UM, BACK OF HOUSE MUSEUM SPACES LIKE THAT.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, THE ROOF SPACE, IT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW.

UM, IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, TO MEX CARTE TO HAVE AN OCCUPIED ROOF FOR EVENTS ON THAT FLOOR.

UM, IT'S STRUCTURED TO ALLOW IT, UM, IT ISN'T IN THE

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BUDGET RIGHT NOW, UM, BUT, UH, THE STAIR WILL, UM, THE STAIR AT THE, UM, SOUTH, UH, WEST CORNER WILL EVENTUALLY WOULD BE EXTENDED UP TO THAT FLOOR, UM, FOR A SECOND EXIT.

AND, UM, AND A ROOF CANOPY, UH, INSTALLED.

UM, AND IN THE FUTURE, UM, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S STRUCTURED FOR FOURTH FLOOR.

UM, AND THE NEXT SLIDE, THE CONGRESS AVENUE, UM, ELEVATION, UM, THE WEST ELEVATION.

AND SO THE MUSEUM IS IN, UM, THE CONGRESS, UM, AVENUE HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

UM, IT'S A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, UH, WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

THERE IS NO OBLIGATION TO PRESERVE ANY OF THE BUILDING.

UM, BUT THE MUSEUM HAS DECIDED THAT THEY WANT TO PRESERVE THAT, UH, FACADE.

UM, AND IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, PRESERVED DURING CONSTRUCTION.

THE REST OF THE BUILDING DEMOLISHED, AND IT'LL BE SUPPORTED DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THEN, UM, UH, RE FABBED OR, OR REHABBED, UM, AFTER THAT, WITH NEW WINDOWS INSTALLED, UM, THE, AND THEN THE, UH, NEW BUILDING WILL BE VISIBLE ABOVE IT.

THE FLOOR TO FLOORS DON'T ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING.

AND SO, UM, THOSE UPPER WINDOWS, UM, WILL NOT BE VIS, WILL NOT HAVE VISIBLE LIGHT.

IT WON'T HAVE THE, IT WON'T MEET THE POINT, UM, SIX, UM, VISIBLE LIGHT TRANSMITTANCE, UM, BECAUSE IN PART THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, THERE'S DEEP, UM, FLOOR STRUCTURES AND PLENUM SPACE BEHIND THE UPPER FLOORS.

AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, THERE ISN'T PROPER ALIGNMENT ALSO.

AND THAT'S THE EXHIBITION SPACE, UM, WHERE THAT WEST BLIGHT WOULD BE, UH, REALLY PROBLEMATIC.

UM, BUT THERE'S CLEAR, UM, GLASS ON, UM, THE STREET LEVEL AND IN THE TRANSOM WINDOWS, UH, ABOVE THAT, AND ALSO CLEAR GLASS IN THE NEW, UM, STRUCTURE THAT'S VISIBLE ABOVE.

UM, THIS ELEVATION DOES MEET THE SUBCHAPTER E 3.2 0.2, UM, A FOR THE AMOUNT OF GLASS, UM, ON THE STREET LEVEL.

AND IT ALSO MEETS THE SECTION E, UM, FOR THE, UM, 50% OF THE GLASS ON THAT FACADE BEING, UH, HAVING THAT 0.6, UM, VISIBLE LIGHT TRANSMITTANCE.

UM, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE, UM, FIFTH STREET ELEVATION.

AND, UM, IT IS, UM, THE, THE PRIMARY MATERIAL IS, UH, STUCCO ON THIS ELEVATION.

AND, UM, IT IS BEING, SO THERE ARE TWO, UH, REASONS FOR THAT.

ONE IS THE, UH, PROTECTION OF THE ARTWORK AND, AND THE MAKING OF A SUITABLE EXHIBITION SPACE FOR IT.

AND THE OTHER IS, UM, THAT IT IS, UH, GOING TO BE PRIMARILY USED FOR MURALS ON THE OUTSIDE.

UM, A IPP, UM, THE MURAL, THE ARTWORK THAT'S BEEN SELECTED FOR THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW, UM, ARE, UH, MURALISTS AND THE PRO, AND WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED IS A MURAL THAT DEPICTS, UM, UM, SOME ASPECT OF MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORY IN AUSTIN.

UM, AND IN ADDITION, THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROTATING MURAL AND ALSO THE MEADOW MURAL PROJECT.

IS THAT RIGHT? MM-HMM, .

SO, SO THAT FACADE IS REALLY GONNA BE ACTIVATED, UM, THROUGH A NUMBER OF MURALS.

UM, AND MURALS HAVE A, UM, LONG HISTORY WITHIN MEXICAN AND MEXICAN AMERICAN, UM, ART, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE, UM, ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS OF MEXICO TWO'S PROGRAM, UM, THERE ON THE GROUND LEVEL.

UM, WHAT YOU SEE SHOWN RIGHT NOW IS, UH,

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THAT A SPACE FOR ADVERTISING THAT'S OVER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE A ADVERTISING, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS ACTUAL ADVERTISING SALES THAT ME CARTE DOES.

THEY LEASE THAT, UM, SPACE OUT TO COMPANIES, AND THAT IS, UM, IT'S ONE OF THEIR, UM, UH, IT'S FINANCIALLY IMPORTANT TO THE MUSEUM.

AND IT WOULD ALSO BE USED FOR, UM, ADVERTISING THEIR OWN, UH, EXHIBITS.

UH, THERE IS AN OVERHEAD DOOR, UM, THAT'S USED FOR THE, UH, FOR MOVING ARTWORK IN AND OUT.

AND THEN, UM, UH, AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT DOOR, UM, THAT YOU SEE, UH, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IS A RENDERING, UM, FROM THE NORTHWEST.

UM, AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE MURALS, UH, THERE AS WELL AS A SIGN.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE EXISTING CONGRESS AVENUE, UM, FACADE, THE HISTORICAL FACADE, THE CANOPY, UM, AND THEN THE NEW BUILDING STEPPING BACK ABOVE, UH, THE EXISTING, UM, FACADE AND THAT ADVERTISING SPACE, UM, ON FIFTH STREET.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, THIS IS SHOWING JUST, UM, AND A REPRESENTATION OF WHERE THOSE OTHER MURALS WOULD BE, UM, THE VARIOUS MURALS AND THAT ADVERTISING SPACE AND, UM, THE SCHOOL BUS LOADING ZONE AND, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE AND ANOTHER VIEW OF ALL OF THAT.

UM, AND WE CAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY