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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:03]

HAVE A, A QUORUM NOW.

UH, COMMISSIONER FER, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR, UH, CAMERA ON.

HEY.

HELLO.

OKAY.

IT IS NOW A 6:00 PM AT THE REGULAR MEETING, UH, OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

MAY 1ST, 2024.

UM, THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER EVENT CENTER ROOM 1 4 0 5 AT 6 3 1 0.

WILHELMINA DELCO DRIVE, AUSTIN, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT SEVEN FIVE TWO.

UM, LET'S CALL TO ORDER.

COMMISSIONER FER PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER EINHORN PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER BRIMER.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? HERE.

SECRETARY BRISTOL.

HERE.

BEDFORD HERE.

OKAY.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AT ALL? OKAY.

NO.

LET'S SEE.

OH, AND LET'S, DO WE HAVE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UM, THE REGULAR MEETINGS FROM, UH, THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH 20TH? HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT? YEAH.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES.

THE SECOND MOTION BY BRIMER, SECONDED BY SULLIVAN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

FER.

EINHORN, BEDFORD, BRISTOL, SULLIVAN, AND BRIMER.

OH.

AND COMMISSIONER NICHOLS.

WELCOME, COMMISSIONER.

SO THAT'S SEVEN.

OKAY.

NEXT UP, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON MARCH 28TH? HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE MINUTES? YEP.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

OKAY.

MOTION BY EINHORN.

SECONDED BY SULLIVAN AL, THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND WE HAVE BRIMER SULLIVAN.

EINHORN BEDFORD FER.

AND, UM, OH.

OH.

HELLO.

AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER KRUEGER JUST WALKED IN, SO SHE'S NOW ON THE DAAS.

UH, DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING MINUTES? YES.

OKAY.

HIT YOUR MICROPHONE.

YES.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE KRUEGER.

OKAY.

LET'S RAISE OUR HANDS AGAIN.

WE HAVE KRUEGER, BEDFORD, EINHORN, SULLIVAN, BRIMER, AND FER, AND ALL THOSE ABSTAINED.

WE HAVE, UH, NICHOLS AND BRISTOL.

SO WE MOTION PASSES.

SIX TO TWO.

OKAY.

UM,

[4. Election of Environmental Commission Officers for the May 1, 2024 through April 30, 2025 term.]

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, FOR, UH, THE, TO MOVE THE ELECTIONS TO? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE ELECTIONS TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

OKAY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HANDS.

WE HAVE NICHOLS, FER, EINHORN, KRUGER, BEDFORD, BRISTOL, SULLIVAN, AND BRIMER.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, TWO PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, COMMISSIONER OR VICE CHAIR BEDFORD TO BE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER.

FER TO BE VICE CHAIR.

AND, UM, AND MEMBERS.

I'LL MENTION THAT YOU DO NOT NEED TO SECOND NOMINATIONS PER ROBERT'S RULES.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR, UM, SECRETARY BRISTOL'S MOTION? RAISE YOUR HAND.

WELL, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD ASK IF THERE'S ANY MORE NOMINATIONS.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY.

I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA GO BY NOMINATION.

OKAY.

SORRY.

UH, OKAY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, SECRETARY BRISTOL TO BE SECRETARY AGAIN.

JUST DONE AN AMAZING JOB, SO, OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY MORE NOMINATIONS? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THEM.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR SECRETARY BRISTOL? COMING SECRETARY AGAIN? WE HAVE NICKEL VOTE.

YEAH, I DON'T YOU HAVE NICHOLS, FER.

EINHORN, KRUGER, BEDFORD, BRISTOL SULLIVAN AND BRIMER.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ME BECOMING CHAIR AND .

AND, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER COFER BECOMING VICE-CHAIR.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

SHOULD WE JUST AS THE POINT OF ORDER, SHOULD WE NOT DO ONE AT A TIME RATHER THAN TOGETHER? I THINK WE CAN DO 'EM TOGETHER.

IF YOU WANT TO CALL FOR, RIGHT.

IF YOU, IF IF A MEMBER CALLS FOR A DIVISION, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT DIVISION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS IF WE DO A WOMAN ONE AT A TIME OR SO.

WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THEM ONE AT A TIME.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, COMMISSIONER FER FOR VICE CHAIR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

[00:05:01]

WE HAVE EINHORN KRUGER, FER NICHOLS, UH, BEDFORD.

BRISTOL SULLIVAN.

OKAY.

AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR BEDFORD? FOR CHAIR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

WE HAVE NICHOLS, FER, EINHORN, KRUGER, BEDFORD, BRIMER, SULLIVAN, BRISTOL, UH, ELIZABETH FUNK, UH, WATERSHED.

I NOTICED WE ONLY ASKED FOR FOUR FOR ONE OF THEM AND NOT ANY, UH, OR AGAINST OR ABSTAINING.

OH, OKAY.

FOR, UM, COMMISSIONER KO'S ATION.

SO JUST, I APOLOGIZE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

FOR, IS THERE ANYONE ABSTAINING FOR FER? COMMISSIONER BRIMER.

AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT MOTIONS PASS.

SO THANK YOU GUYS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS, EVERYONE.

OKAY, NEXT

[2. Bridle Ridge at Wildhorse Ranch, C8-2023-0259]

UP, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR BRIDAL RIDGE AT WILDHORSE RANCH, C EIGHT DASH 2023 DASH 2 59.

UM, APPLICANT REQUESTS A VARY FROM A 2 5 8 DASH 3 4 1 TO ALLOW CUT OVER, OVER FOUR FEET TO 15 FEET, AND B TWO FIVE DASH EIGHT DASH 3 4 2 TO ALLOW FILL OVER FOUR FEET TO 15 FEET.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION, CORRECT? DO WE HAVE A MICROPHONE FOR THE PODIUM? I JUST NOW NOTICED THAT, UH, OH.

YOU'LL, YOU'LL NEED TO SIT AT THE TABLE.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY.

CAN YOU EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR, I MEAN, CHAIR.

JUST NOW NOTICE.

DON'T WISH THAT UPON IN THIS .

YEAH, RIGHT.

UM, GOOD EVENING, PAMELA AB HERE, UH, TO PRESENT THE, UH, BRIDAL RIDGE, UM, VARIANCE.

AND THIS IS, IS IT GOING BACK? THERE WE GO.

THERE'S THE FRONT.

OKAY.

UH, BRIDAL RIDGE AT WILDHORSE RANCH VARIANCES.

UH, I AM PAMELA AB TOLEY ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND THE, UH, SUBJECT TRACKED IS AT 1 0 5 0 1 AND A HALF BLUE BLUFF ROAD, THE CASE NUMBER C 8 20 23 0 2 5 9.

SO THE PROJECT IS LOCATED, UH, IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF TOWN ON THE VERY EDGE OF THE FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION THERE.

UM, AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE IT'S IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE INTERSECTION OF TWO 90 AND ONE 30.

IT'S IN THE GILLAND CREEK WATERSHED, WHICH HAS A SUBURBAN CLASSIFICATION AND IS IN THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE.

IT'S IN THE AUSTIN'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, AND IT'S PART OF THE WILDHORSE RANCH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AKA PUD.

SO THE PROJECT IS, UM, THE ENTIRE PROJECT INC.

INCLUDES, UH, SINGLE FAMILY AND, AND, UH, AND COMMERCIAL.

BUT THE PART THAT WE HAVE THE VARIANCE FOR IS JUST FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE.

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH ROADWAYS AND STORM STORMWATER PONDS, 21.4 ACRES.

AND, UM, THERE IS A WETLAND UP IN THE, TO THE, WELL, I, I WOULD USE THIS, BUT YOU'RE ALL LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SCREENS, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S, ANYWAY, WHERE IT SAYS CEF, THERE IS A WETLAND UP THERE, THEN THAT'S NOT IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH TODAY, BUT IT IS PART OF THE SITE.

THERE IS THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE ON THE EAST SIDE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THESE ARE THE TWO FOOT CONTOURS, WHICH SHOW YOU THAT IT IS A VERY HILLY SITE.

UH, SO WHILE ZERO TO 15, THE 86% OF THE SITE HAS SLOPES BETWEEN ZERO AND 15%.

UM, NONETHELESS, IT IS VERY HILLY.

AND THIS IS WHAT LEADS TO THE, UH, TO THE VARIANCE NEED BECAUSE, UH, THE HOLINESS MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO MATCH, UH, GRADES, UH, WITH ROADS AND, AND WITH THE, THE, THE LOTS AND EVERYTHING TO, UH, MEET A DA AND TRANSPORTATION REQUIREMENTS.

UM, AS I SAID, THIS HAS A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, AND, UH, THESE, YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRAY, THE SHADES OF GRAY THERE.

UH, AND I APOLOGIZE, MY PICTURES ARE TURNING, BUT THERE IS A LITTLE ARROW IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER THERE TO HELP ORIENT YOU.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, ON THE EAST SIDE THERE,

[00:10:01]

UH, WHERE THE GRAY IS IS WHERE MOST OF THE SLOPES ARE, AND THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE AREA OF DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU CAN SEE.

SO THE VARIANCE REQUEST, AS WAS SAID, IS TO VARY 25 8 3 41.

THE CUT REQUIREMENTS TO, UH, CUT OVER FOUR FEET, UP TO 15 FEET, AND TO VARY 25 8, 3 42, THE FILL REQUIREMENTS TO FILL OVER FOUR FEET TO 15 FEET.

SO THIS, UM, ON, ON THIS SLIDE, I HAVE THE, UH, ELEVATIONS TABLE ON THE TOP RIGHT THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE, THE KIND OF LEVELS OF CUT AND FILL ARE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE RELATIVELY FEW AREAS, UH, IN THE FOUR TO EIGHT, UH, RANGE, FOUR TO EIGHT FEET OF CUT RANGE.

UM, SO, UH, THE VARIANCE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF, UH, THE STAFF FINDS THAT THE VARIANCES FOR GRADING HAVE BEEN GRANTED.

SIMILAR VARIANCES FOR GRADING HAVE BEEN GRANTED TO PROJECTS WITH SIMILAR SITE CONSTRAINTS, SPECIFICALLY TOPOGRAPHICAL CONDITIONS THAT CONSTRAIN THE ABILITY TO COMPLY WITH TRANSPORTATION AND A DA REGULATIONS.

ALSO, THE VARIANCE IS CLEARLY NECESSITATED BY TOPOGRAPHIC FEATURES AND NOT JUST BY THE DESIGN CHOICES OF THE APPLICANT.

WE FEEL IT'S THE MIN MINIMUM DEVIATION FROM CODE TO MAKE IT A DEVELOPABLE SITE, AND IT'S UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN HARMFUL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES.

WATER QUALITY, LIKEWISE WILL BE EQUAL TO WATER QUALITY THAT YOU WOULD GET WITHOUT THE VARI, WITH THE, WITHOUT THE VARIANCE, SORRY.

SO THE VARIANCE CONDITIONS, THERE ARE ACTUALLY FOUR.

AND, UH, THIS, THE ONE THAT I REALLY WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THIS FIRST ONE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE, THE, UH, UH, SLOPES THERE, THERE, THERE'S THE HILL SLOPES DOWN PRECIPITOUSLY AT THE EDGE OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS.

UM, AND BECAUSE IT WAS GRAZED, THERE WAS A LOT OF RUNOFF AND THERE IS, UH, EROSION, UH, WHERE THE LITTLE PEAKS ARE ON THE, ON THE, UM, YEAH, I DUNNO IF YOU CAN.

ANYWAY, THE PEAKS, THE EROSION PEAKS ARE THERE.

AND, UH, SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS WORKING, WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO DO IS TO WORK WITH THE WATERSHED DEPARTMENT, UM, EROSION EXPERTS TO PUT, UH, DEVICES IN PLACE THAT WILL, UH, HELP, UM, UH, MINIMIZE THE EFFECT OF THE ADDED IMPERVIOUS COVER AND, UH, MINIMIZE EROSION IN THE FUTURE.

IN FACT, I'M HOPING IT WILL BE IMPROVED FROM WHAT IT IS NOW.

UM, SO THE, THE, TO, JUST TO READ THE SLIDE, THAT SLOPE STABILIZATION FOR AREAS OF EXISTING, UH, EROSION ADJACENT TO THE LOTS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH EITHER GROUT, EITHER GROUT, SORRY, GROUTED RIP WRAP OR SOMETHING, AN APPROVED EQUIVALENT METHOD.

IT'LL BE IRONED OUT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, UH, COULD SAY WITH THE WATERSHED EROSION EXPERTS, UM, AND APPROVED BY THEM.

SO, UH, VARI THE VARIANCE CONDITION NUMBER TWO, SLOPE STABILIZATION IN AREAS OF CUT OVER EIGHT FEET WILL BE PROVIDED BY TERRACING.

SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LOTS THERE THAT ARE VERY, VERY DEEP, AND THEY SWOOP DOWN.

SO INSTEAD OF JUST COMPLETELY SWOOPING DOWN, THEY WILL, UH, BE ED, UM, AND, UH, VEGETATED, NOT JUST WITH YOUR STANDARD BERMUDA, BUT WITH, UH, WITH THE, UM, UH, NATIVE GRASSES AND FORBES PER 6 0 9, UM, S.

SO, UH, THEN STAFF RECOMMENDS THESE VARIANCES, AS I SAID, WITH TWO MORE CONDITIONS, WHICH IS THE FILL OVER EIGHT FEET WILL BE CONTAINED WITH ENGINEERED WALLS AND THAT WATER QUALITY PONDS, UH, THEY WILL BE DONE AS, AS BIOFILTRATION PONDS, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS A, AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR METHOD.

AND THAT'S IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, OR IF YOU HAVE SITE SPEC SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, YOU, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE.

IS THERE A PRESENTATION FOR THE APPLICANT OR, OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THAT PRESENTATION NEXT.

ALL RIGHTY.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, CAN WE GET THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION UP WHENEVER YOU GET A MOMENT? PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH,

[00:15:01]

CONGRATULATIONS, CHAIR BEDFORD.

UM, MY NAME'S KEVIN BURKES.

I'M THE CEILING ENGINEER AND APPLICANT FOR BRIDAL RIDGE AT WILDHORSE RANCH.

UH, CAMERON TAYLOR, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AT KIMLEY HORN IS HERE WITH ME TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT OUR VARIANCE REQUEST.

UM, WANNA GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

I KNOW PAMELA TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THIS A MOMENT AGO.

WE'RE OUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, BASICALLY AS CLOSE TO MAINOR AS YOU CAN BE WHILE STILL BEING IN AUSTIN'S FULL PURPOSE.

CITY LIMITS, UH, WE ARE WITHIN A SUBURBAN WATERSHED, AND THE DDZ ARE ALSO WITHIN WILDHORSE RANCH, UH, 2000 ACRE PUD CLASSIFIED AS AN IMAGINE AUSTIN TOWN CENTER.

UH, GOT A FEW MORE NOTES ON JUST THE PUD HISTORY, SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUPERIORITY THAT WENT INTO THE ZONING PROCESS.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN MORE DETAIL IN A MOMENT.

THE MAIN THING THAT I WANNA POINT OUT IS OUR SITE IS THAT GREEN SECTION THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.

THOSE TRACKS IN YELLOW ARE SIMILAR PROJECTS WITHIN WILDHORSE RANCH THAT REQUESTED AND ULTIMATELY OBTAINED SIMILAR VARIANCES FOR CUT AND FOR FILL FOR VERY SIMILAR REASONS.

SO, ZOOMING IN ON BRIDAL, IT'S ABOUT 23 ACRES OF SINGLE FAMILY, 76 LOTS, AND THE ASSOCIATED ROADWAYS NEEDED TO SERVE THEM.

OUR PRELIM ESTABLISHES, UH, MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL TRACKS AS WELL, BUT THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF THIS VARIANCE.

UH, TO REITERATE, WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM 25 8 3 41 AND 25 8 3 42 TO EXTEND OUR MAXIMUM CUT AND FILL UP TO 15 FEET.

UH, TO PULL THAT CUT FILL EXHIBIT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN, UH, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF LET Y'ALL TAKE THAT IN FOR A MOMENT.

BUT BEFORE WE REALLY DIVE INTO THE WEEDS AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THE CONDITIONS THAT PAMELA MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO WALK YOU THROUGH OUR THOUGHT PROCESS OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLANNING STAGE AND KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO THE DECISION POINT TO PURSUE THIS VARIANCE AND BE CHATTING ABOUT THIS WITH Y'ALL TODAY.

I THINK THE MOST HELPFUL WAY FOR ME TO DO THAT IS TO SHOW A CONCEPTUAL ROADWAY PROFILE THAT TIES WITH THAT EXHIBIT THAT WE'VE BEEN REFERENCING.

THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING JARGON AND SOME LABELS ON THERE THAT'S PRIMARILY FOR ME TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEEN DESIGNED PROPERLY.

THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS THAT I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON ARE THE ACTUAL PROFILES OF THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED GRADE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE EXISTING GRADE IS A LITTLE JAGGED, IT'S A LITTLE ERRATIC AND KIND OF UNPREDICTABLE AT TIMES.

AND SO OUR PROPOSED STREET DESIGN WINDS UP KINDA SPLITTING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT AND KINDA SMOOTHING IT OUT ACROSS THE HOLE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE PRETTY IMPORTANT REASONS FOR THAT.

UM, THE MAIN DRIVER IS JUST SAFETY AND NAVIGABILITY OF THESE ROADS.

UM, THERE'S A TERM IN JUST THE ENGINEERING FIELD CALLED STOPPING SITE DISTANCE THAT DRIVES A LOT OF THESE DESIGNS.

WHAT THAT ULTIMATELY LOOKS LIKE IS WHEN SOMEONE IS DRIVING DOWN THIS STREET AND SOMEONE AHEAD IS BACKING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY, OR A FAMILY IS CROSSING THE STREET AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE VEHICLES HAVE TIME TO REACT, HIT THEIR BRAKES, AND SLOW DOWN BEFORE ANY PROBLEMS OR COLLISIONS OCCUR.

UM, IT'S PRETTY IMPERATIVE.

IT'S CODIFIED VERY RIGIDLY IN THE TCM IN MY OPINION.

IT'S NON-NEGOTIABLE.

UH, AS THE CEILING ENGINEER OF THIS PROJECT, I TAKE THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS VERY SERIOUSLY AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR ROAD DESIGN IS COMPLIANT AND SAFE.

ANOTHER PIECE THAT FACTORS INTO THIS IS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SUBDIVISION IS A DA COMPLIANT.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT EVERY INTERSECTION WE NEED TO BE REALLY, REALLY FLAT.

UH, CODE REQUIRES THAT TO BE AT ABOUT A 2% CROSS SLOPE.

UH, AS PAMELA MENTIONED, THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY IS OFTEN MUCH STEEPER THAN THAT, EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY CLASSIFIED AS STEEP SLOPES BY CODE.

SO IN KIND OF THREADING THAT NEEDLE OF TRYING TO FOLLOW THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY AS WELL AS WE CAN, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SAFE AND NAVIGABLE AND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE EQUITABLE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ACROSS THE BOARD TO ENJOY THIS PARKLAND THAT'S COMING IN NEXT TO THE SUBDIVISION TO BE ABLE TO JUST HAVE THE SAME QUALITY OF LIFE.

THOSE TWO THINGS WERE FAIRLY NON-NEGOTIABLE.

AND SO WE DECIDED TO PURSUE A CUT FILL VARIANCE TO HELP FACILITATE THAT AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT MORE SMOOTHLY.

DIVING BACK INTO THE ACTUAL CUT FILL EXHIBIT, I KNOW PAMELA HAS TOUCHED ON THE CONDITIONS.

WE THINK THEY'RE ALL REASONABLE.

WE'RE, WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE STAFF SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT.

UM, GOING INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE COLOR CODING OF THIS, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN WHITE IS, UH, NOT INDICATIVE OF VARIANCE AT ALL.

IT'S EITHER WITHIN A RIGHT OF WAY OR LESS THAN FOUR FEET OF GRADE CHANGE.

UM, THAT KINDA LIGHT BANDING, SO LIKE THE LIGHT BROWN OR THE LIGHT GREEN IS WHAT WOULD BE APPROVABLE WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE.

THE SECTIONS THAT ARE TRIGGERING THE, THE, UH, COMMISSION VARIANCE ARE REALLY JUST THE DARK BROWN AND THE DARK GREEN THAT YOU SEE.

SO OF THE ENTIRE 23 ACRES, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST UNDER AN ACRE AND A HALF, ABOUT

[00:20:01]

SIX AND A HALF PERCENT OF OUR TOTAL SITE AREA THAT'S WARRANTING THIS.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF ITERATIONS AND HAVE WORKSHOPPED THIS EXHIBIT AND THESE IDEAS WITH STAFF OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD GAME PLAN HERE.

UH, AS PAMELA MENTIONED, WE'RE COMMITTING TO USING RETAINING WALLS TO HELP TRUNCATE THAT GRADING AND LIMIT OUR ENCROACHMENT INTO THAT STEEP SLOPE AREA DOWN THAT RAVINE.

WE'RE ALSO USING THAT TERRACING FOR THOSE LOTS THAT HAVE THE EXTRA DEPTH WHERE WE CAN KINDA UTILIZE THAT TO MAKE UP THE GRADE IN A MORE NATURAL WAY.

AND YOU CAN KINDA SEE THAT IN THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF THE POND WHERE WE KIND OF START OFF IN THE DARK BROWN SECTION NEEDING THAT COMMISSION VARIANCE.

BUT BY THE END, AFTER WE'VE UTILIZED THAT TERRACING AT THE REAR OF THE LOT, WE'RE ACTUALLY BACK IN THE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVABLE THRESHOLD.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THESE TECHNIQUES TO HELP KIND OF REDUCE OUR IMPACT.

UM, AND AS PAMELA MENTIONED, WE RECOGNIZE THE CONCERN ABOUT THE STEEP SLOPES.

WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT ON SITE TO GET OUR OWN EYES ON IT AND KIND OF ASSESS IT PERSONALLY.

AND THAT'S KINDA WHERE THIS GROUNDED REP WRAP OR, YOU KNOW, SIMILARLY, UH, A WORKSHOPPED METHOD CAME OUT.

YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT'S A DECENT PROPOSAL FOR RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO THINKING THAT THROUGH WITH WATERSHED AND THE REST OF DST STAFF AT THE FULL DESIGN STAGE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE ISSUES FIVE, 10 YEARS DOWN THE LINE.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS WELL THOUGHT OUT ON THE FRONT END.

UM, THIS SLIDE IS JUST KINDA REITERATING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST MENTIONED AND DISCUSSED.

UM, WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO MINIMIZE OUR CONSTRUCTION ON STEEP, STEEP SLOPES.

I THINK OUR CUT AND FILLS IN EXCESS OF FOUR FEET ARE 0.1 ACRE.

UH, WE COULDN'T QUITE GET IT TO ZERO, BUT WE'RE GETTING AS CLOSE AS WE CAN.

AND THEN LASTLY, UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MIMIC THE NATURAL DRAINAGE PATTERNS.

WE'RE PUTTING PONDS AT NATURAL LOW POINTS, UH, TRYING TO NOT UPEND THE TOPOGRAPHY AS MUCH AS WE CAN HELP IT.

UM, ONE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING IS, SINCE THIS PUD WAS ENTITLED IN 2002, WE TECHNICALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE STANDARD SAID FILL PONDS TO TREAT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S NOT A GOOD LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE TO HAVE.

AND SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO USING BIOFILTRATION PONDS AND OTHER GREEN WATER QUALITY CONTROLS TO HELP TREAT THE PROJECT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION AT THE FULL DESIGN STAGE TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL EROSION CONCERNS OR IMPACTS.

WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES FROM THE SITE WALK THAT WE HAD BACK IN MARCH.

UM, HONESTLY, IT WAS A FANTASTIC DAY.

WE COULDN'T HAVE PICKED A BETTER DAY TO GET OUT THERE.

THE BLUE BONNETS WERE OUT IN FULL FORCE.

IT WAS A PERFECT SPRINGTIME DAY.

IT GOT ME PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS COMING TO LIFE AND BECOMING A PLACE THAT MORE PEOPLE CAN POTENTIALLY ENJOY DOWN THE LINE.

I TRIED TO TAKE SOME PICTURES OF THAT STEEP SLOPES.

UM, APOLOGIES.

I'M A GOOD ENGINEER.

JURY'S STILL OUTTA MY PHOTOGRAPHY CAREER, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS KIND OF FALLING OFF.

UM, SO WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE BALL'S IN OUR COURT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE WELL.

ALSO WANTED TO PROVIDE A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF WHAT PROPOSED LANDSCAPING AND KINDA THAT PROPOSED CONNECTION TO THE FUTURE PARKLAND COULD LOOK LIKE AS WELL AS, UH, PROPOSED STREET SCAPE, STREET TREE OPTIONS.

UH, TO WRAP UP, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SAFE, NAVIGABLE, EQUITABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING THROUGH IT ON A LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THOSE GOALS IS TO RECEIVE THIS VARIANCE FOR CUT AND FILL BEYOND WHAT'S ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVABLE.

THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY, UM, PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

LET'S START WITH REMOTE.

ARE THERE ANY REMOTE COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GROUTED RIP WRAPP AND WHAT MIGHT BE SORT OF APPROVED EQUIVALENT METHODS, ARE THERE OTHER APPROVED EQUIVALENT METHODS? I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN IT COMES TO SORT OF, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SLOPE STABILIZATION OPTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, I THINK, UH, WE OPTED FOR THE GROUTED RIP REP WITH KIND OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PAMELA, BUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY OTHER METHODS THAT WE COULD EXPLORE AND UTILIZE.

ONE THAT I'VE SPECKED OUT ON PAST PROJECTS IS, UH, SOMETHING CALLED ARMOR MAX, UM, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A SOIL RETENTION BLANKET OR KIND OF SYSTEM THAT HELPS KIND OF PROVIDE TIEBACKS AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STABILIZATION BEYOND JUST YOUR STANDARD HYDRO MULCH OR REVEGETATION.

UH, THERE'S KIND OF A VARIETY OF SYSTEMS IN THAT VEIN, YOU KNOW, SOIL RETENTION BLANKETS OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER ENGINEERED PRODUCTS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY SPEC OUT.

ULTIMATELY, IT'S GONNA BE A DECISION AND A CONVERSATION BETWEEN US AND WITH WATERSHED AND DSD,

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WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE USE THE ITEM THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

SO IS IT ULTIMATELY WATERSHED THAT APPROVES THAT? IT'LL BE KIND OF A JOINT CONVERSATION WITH WATERSHED AND DSD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER SHIRA, DID YOU HAVE A, A QUESTION? I I THOUGHT I SAW YOUR HAND FOR A SECOND.

NOPE, YOUR QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO IN-PERSON D THEN COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.

OKAY.

SO CAN WATERSHED STAFF, UH, CITE, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY PROBLEMS ELSEWHERE IN THIS POD THAT WHERE SIMILAR VARIANCES WERE GRANTED SIMILAR VARIANCES? UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY PROBLEMS. UM, THERE PAMELA COULD DISCUSS IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY SIMILAR CASES IN THIS P THERE HAVE BEEN SIMILAR CASES IN THIS PUD, AND ACTUALLY IT WAS IN ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF HIS SLIDES.

IT HAD THE GREEN FOR THIS ONE DOWN IN THE CORNER AND THE TWO YELLOW ONES.

MM-HMM.

OR THOSE ARE IN THE SAME PUD.

UM, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO BEEN SIMILAR CASES IN THIS AREA AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LISTED IN THE, UM, IN THE, IN THE VARIANCE PACKET.

RIGHT? YEAH.

BUT AGAIN, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY PROBLEMS? NOT, I MEAN IF THEY'VE, IF WE'VE ALLOWED 15 FEET CUT AND FILL RIGHT, THEN HAS THAT LED TO ANY EROSION OR DE OF FOUNDATIONS OR ANYTHING? I WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE THAT TO KEVIN TO ANSWER.

NONE SO FAR.

I WILL BE HONEST.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO EARLY TO TELL ON SOME OF THEM.

UM, ONE IS ACTIVELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE OTHER IS STILL MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING WITH DST STAFF AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR PLANS ARE WELL THOUGHT THROUGH AND ADDRESSING CONCERNS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

UH, MS. JOHNSTON WITH WATERSHED, UM, CORRECT.

WHERE WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY PROBLEMS WE WOULD, UM, WANT TO COORDINATE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTORS AND DSD TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON IF THERE ARE ANY.

HOWEVER, IF IT IS AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE, THEY DO HAVE MONTHLY INSPECTIONS AND, UM, TYPICALLY REMEDY THOSE ISSUES THAT COME UP DURING CONSTRUCTION, UM, IN THE FIELD, UH, AS THEY COME UP.

SO.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER QURESHI.

HEY Y'ALL, UM, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

UH, ONE OF THE PICTURES IN THE PROPOSED SLIDES THAT YOU HAD HAD LIKE PICTURES OF LIKE A LITTLE DIRT TRAIL.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, FOR THIS PUD, ARE YOU HAVE ANY PLANS OF PUTTING IN TRAILS FOR THE RESIDENTS? UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED SOME PARKLAND TOO, SO I'M WONDERING HOW IT CONNECTS TO THAT.

APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET MY SLIDES BACK UP ON THE SCREEN? OKAY.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, THERE IS GOING TO BE, UH, 170 ACRE PARKLAND DEDICATION.

WE'RE ACTIVELY IN THE PROCESS OF COORDINATING THAT WITH PARD AND WITH CITY LEGAL.

THERE'S STILL A FEW MORE THINGS TO BUTTON UP BEFORE IT'S OFFICIALLY PROCESSED, BUT IT'S OUR HOPE IN UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WILL BE OFFICIALLY DEDICATED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND AS PART OF THAT PUD DOCUMENTATION, THERE IS A TRAIL NETWORK TO ROUTE OF THE ENTIRE PUD AND CONNECTED TO THAT, WE HAVE KIND OF THE LUXURY OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT OF BEING KINDA RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF IT.

UM, TO GIVE YOU SOME FRAME OF REFERENCE, THE PARKLAND AREA IS GENERALLY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO WHAT'S IN GREEN AND THE YELLOW IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF IT.

SO IT'S KIND OF THAT HEAVILY WOODED AREA AT THE RIGHT EDGE OF THE AERIAL.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER EINHORN, COMMISSIONER KRUEGER, I, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

OH, OH, GO AHEAD.

THAT'S OKAY.

UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IT WHERE YOU, THERE WAS ADDED THOUGHTFULNESS, LIKE WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SHAPE OF THE LANDSCAPE AND PLACING PONDS AT LOWER AREAS.

IT REMINDS ME OF BERMS AND SWALES IN A, IN A PERMACULTURE APPROACH.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I BELIEVE THE STAFF PRESENTATION MENTIONED RE-SEEDING WITH NATIVE GRASSES.

AND I'M CURIOUS, IS THAT GOING TO BE ON PRIVATE HOME PROPERTIES? IN WHICH CASE COULD THAT ULTIMATELY BE PULLED UP AGAIN AND SOMEONE COULD PUT IN INVASIVE BERMUDA GRASS OR SOMETHING ELSE, OR? THAT'S A VERY VALID CONCERN AND A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK, AND PAMELA WATERSHED DEFINITELY CHIME IN IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS FRONT.

IT'S FAIRLY COMMON, ESPECIALLY WHEN GREEN WATER QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE IS, UH, PROPOSED TO DOCUMENT LIKE AN IPM RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER MECHANISM.

UM, SO IF WE NEED TO,

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YOU KNOW, PROCESS SOMETHING TO BASICALLY ENSURE THAT THE NATIVE PLANTINGS ARE PRESERVED LONG TERM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A MECHANISM FOR THAT.

I MAY NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY THAT IS, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT BEFORE PERMITS ARE ISSUED.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEAH, IF THERE'S ANY AMENDMENT OR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD NOW TO INCLUDE THAT, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

MM-HMM, , UM, AND I GUESS I'M STILL NOT CLEAR, WOULD THAT BE ON PRIVATE AREA OR, OR WHERE EXACTLY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ARE, ARE YOU KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THE RECEDING ASPECT? YES, IT WOULD, UM, FOR THE, THE TERRACING CONDITION IT WOULD BE IN THE REAR OF PRIVATE LOTS.

OKAY.

UM, AND PERHAPS MAYBE THE MECHANISM IS THERE'S AN EASEMENT OF SOME KIND IN THAT PARTICULAR SPACE.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, I, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF WORK WITH STAFF AND ROUND TABLE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE THERE, BUT I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN AND WANNA MAKE SURE THE INTENT OF THE VARIANCE CONDITION IS PRESERVED.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

YEAH, LIZ JOHNSON, AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE COULD WORK WITH THEM TO, TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THESE ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS FOR THE MOST PART.

AND SO PEOPLE WILL WANT TO HAVE, UM, THE ABILITY TO USE THEM AS SUCH.

UM, AND SO, UH, TO DETERMINE WHERE, UM, THE NATIVE SEATING OCCURS VERSUS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING WE CAN ENTIRELY CONTROL IF IT'S WITHIN THEIR FENCED AREA, BUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO IT MORE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING A VARIANCE ABOUT THE CUT AND FILL, BUT OF COURSE YOU BRING UP THE PUT AND IT BRINGS UP SO MANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME.

BUT, UM, I'LL, I'LL RESTRICT MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY WITH THE CUL-DE-SAC THAT EXTENDS FARTHER SOUTH, IS THAT TO LEAD TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THERE? YES.

IT'S TO PROVIDE ACCESS FOR SOME OF THOSE MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL TRACKS THAT ARE ALSO COMING ONLINE AS PART OF THIS PRELIM PLAN.

UM, ULTIMATELY THERE IS ACTUALLY A WATER, A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S EVEN FURTHER, UM, SOUTH OR I GUESS PLAN EAST ON THAT PAGE.

SO IT'S ALSO GONNA HELP PROVIDE ACCESS TO THAT OVER THE LONG TERM AS WELL.

SO IT WON'T ALWAYS BE A CUL-DE-SAC.

IT'LL BE CONTINUED TO SOME OTHER ROADWAY NETWORK.

I THINK THE, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WILL LIKELY TERMINATE AT THE END OF THAT CUL-DE-SAC, BUT THERE WILL BE ACCESS DRIVES OR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO THAT TREATMENT PLANT.

OKAY.

AND PRIVATE DRIVES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL TRACKS TOO.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BRIER.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

APPRECIATE IT.

THIS IS KIND OF AN OFF THE WALL QUESTION ONLY BECAUSE 'CAUSE OF SOME OTHER TOPIC WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT.

AND SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU, HOW BIG ARE THESE LOTS? UH, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT THE SIZE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE, BUT APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY, UH, SQUARE FEET IS EACH LOT? YEAH, I WOULD SAY, I THINK THE KIND OF TYPICAL STANDARD THAT WE'RE OPERATING FOR IS 50 FEET WIDE AND ABOUT 120 FEET DEEP, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, CUL-DE-SACS.

IT MAY GET A LITTLE NARROWER AT THE FRONT AND POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER IN THE BACK, BUT GENERALLY I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE ON THE RANGE OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET OR SO.

SO UNDER THE CURRENT, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE HOME AMENDMENT IS AND 'CAUSE THIS IS UNDER THE CURRENT FULL, THIS IS UNDER E THIS IS IT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS? YES, SIR.

SO THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THAT AND THIS COULD BE SUBDIVIDED UNDER THE HOME AMENDMENT? YES.

I BELIEVE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, MY EXPECTATION FOR THE PROCESS IS AS WE KIND OF CLOSE THE LOOP ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, WE WOULD THEN START PROCESSING THE FINAL PLAT IN THE SAME CONFIGURATION, UM, WITH THOSE LOTS KIND OF HONORING THAT SAME LAYOUT THAT'S SHOWN ON THE PAGE RIGHT NOW.

SO, SO ARE YOU GOING TO BE, UH, BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS SEWER AND ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXTRA POTENTIAL, UM, LOAD THAT THAT COULD CARRY BECAUSE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS MAY OPT TO, UH, ADD EXTRA ADUS IN THE BACK OF THE THING? OR ARE YOU JUST GONNA BUILD IT BASED UPON THE HISTORICAL, UH, UTILIZATION OF THE THINGS AS SINGLE FAMILY LOTS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING FORWARD THINKING ABOUT THAT.

OUR, UH, OUR SER APPLICATION AND OUR CURRENT, YOU KNOW, PRELIMINARY CONCEPTUAL UTILITY DESIGN DOES FOLLOW KIND OF THE, THE FORMER STANDARD OF, YOU KNOW, ONE LUE PER LOT.

UM, I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD A FACTOR OF SAFETY OR WORK WITH AUSTIN WATER TO THINK THROUGH WHAT KIND OF FUTURE PROOFING DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, ADUS COMING ON DOWN THE PIPELINE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW OUR PLAN IS TO PLOT IT AS WE HAVE,

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UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE UTILITY SERVICE FOR ALL OF THOSE LOTS.

BUT YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE WE'RE CONSIDERING FUTURE UTILITIES TOO.

SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU CAN PLAN, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN YOU WILL PLAN.

I MEAN, THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE WORD CAN AND WILL.

I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I THINK FOR ME THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERED THE IMPLICATION OF THAT ORDINANCE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO WELL THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAID TO DO.

YEAH, FAIR POINT.

YEAH.

SO I THINK, YEAH, THE, UH, TO GIVE YOU MORE CLARITY, MORE CERTAINTY ON MY ANSWER, YES, I WILL CHAT WITH AUSTIN WATER ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS AND MENTION THAT.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST WATER, THAT'S ELECTRIC UTILIZATION TOO, BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GONNA BE DRAINING THE, UH, THE ELECTRIC WIRES TOO, TO POWER THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEIR LAPTOPS AND BLENDERS AND WHATEVER ELSE THERE IS GOING ON OUT THERE.

YES SIR.

YEAH, WE, UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE WORKING WITH BLUE BOND ELECTRIC.

THEY'RE THE ELECTRIC PROVIDER FOR THIS AREA.

I'D IMAGINE THERE'S GONNA BE THREE PHASE POWER OUT HERE WITH THE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY DEMANDS COMING ONLINE HERE AS WELL.

SO YES, I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE'VE CONSIDERED ALL REDUNDANCY AND FUTURE PROOFING OPTIONS AS WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THIS.

OKAY.

SECRETARY BRISTOL.

HI.

I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

A LOT OF COMMENTS TOO.

SO, UM, FIRST I, UM, I WANNA ADDRESS, UH, DSDS STATEMENT THAT IS UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN HARMFUL, UM, CONSEQUENCES, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES.

ANYTIME YOU BUILD SOMETHING THERE'S HARMFUL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES.

AND SO I I KIND OF, UM, I FEEL A LITTLE RESENTFUL OF THAT STATEMENT.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES, RIGHT? BUT AS FAR AS FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES, THERE WILL BE, THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT.

JUST TO CLARIFY.

SO THERE THE CODE SETS FORTH, UM, THE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT APPLY TO ALL ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES FROM 25 8 AND THAT IS ONE.

SO WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR ONE.

AND I TOTALLY HEAR YOU THAT YES, EVERYTHING COULD HAVE HARMFUL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS THIS GOING TO RESULT IN SOMETHING WORSE THAN SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN WITHOUT THE VARIANCE? AND I THINK WITH THE MITIGATION MEASURES AND THE ENHANCED EROSION CONTROL AND THE REVEGETATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UH, IN THE PAST ON SIMILAR CASES LIKE THIS HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE WE LOOK AT IT.

UM, AND THAT'S HOW WE MEET THE FINDINGS BECAUSE OTHERWISE NO ONE WOULD EVER MEET THE FINDING IF WE, IF WE GAVE THAT SUCH A HIGH BAR.

SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IT'S, UM, YEAH, I THINK STATING THAT DIFFERENTLY IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT IN THE FUTURE.

SO JUST KEEP IN MIND ON THAT ONE.

'CAUSE THAT ONE GOT UN UNDER MY, MY SADDLE A LITTLE BIT THERE.

UM, THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROPERTY IS, UM, AND, AND, AND WILDHORSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE COME FORWARD MULTIPLE TIMES WITH CUT AND FILL VARIANCES AND WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL OF 'EM ON THE MAP THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING IT SEEMS LIKE, OH, OKAY, THIS IS JUST ONE.

BUT IN THIS WHOLE AREA OUT HERE IN IN THE EASTERN QUADRANT, UM, ON THE LINE PRAIRIE, IT IS ONE AFTER THE NEXT, AFTER THE NEXT, AFTER THE NEXT.

AND THE IDEA AND THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE SENDING TO DEVELOPERS IS BUY WHATEVER PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU WANT AND CONTOUR IT HOWEVER YOU WANT.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE EASTERN QUADRANT.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT IN WEST AUSTIN.

WE ARE NOT DOING THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

EAST AUSTIN HAS ALL OF IT.

HOW MANY HAVE WE SEEN NOW? HOW MANY HAVE WE VOTED ON? CUT AND FILL, CUT AND FILL, CUT AND FILL AND NOT JUST A LITTLE CUT AND FILL.

THIS IS 10 FEET OVER WHAT IS NORMAL? THAT'S A LOT.

SO I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WHAT I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS WE ARE PUTTING 80 DA COMPLIANCE ABOVE ENVIRONMENT.

WE JUST ARE, YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER THAT ALL OF THESE HOUSES HAVE TO BE A DA COMPLIANT.

WELL WHY DOES EVERY SINGLE HOUSE HAVE TO BE, WHY NOT HAVE DESIGNATED ONES? AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING JUST FLATTENED OUT IN THIS REALLY EASY DEVELOPABLE WAY AND ACTUALLY RESPECT THE CONTOUR OF THE LAND.

I APPRECIATE YOU RAISING YOUR QUESTIONS AND I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH THAT.

UM, TO CLARIFY ON THE A DA PIECE, IT'S NOT MY INTENTION THAT EVERY SINGLE HOME BE FULLY A DA ACCESSIBLE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WILL WIND UP HAPPENING.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT ALL OF THE AMENITIES THAT THE PUT ARE PROVIDING ARE ACCESSIBLE.

AND SO THAT LEADS TO, YOU KNOW, A

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SAFE NAVIGABLE ROUTE THAT COMPLIES WITH THE A DA SLOPE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO LOGICALLY BE ABLE TO GET TO ONE END OF THE SUBDIVISION ACROSS THE WAY AND DOWN INTO THE PARKLAND OR OVER TO THE AMENITY CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO IT IT'S, IT'S MORE ABOUT LIKE PEDESTRIAN CONVEYANCE AND CAPACITY THAN THE INDIVIDUAL HOMES THEMSELVES.

UM, AND I HEAR YOU THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE VARIANCES FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN WILDHORSE RANCH.

FRANKLY, I THINK THE EXISTING TOPOGRAPHY MAKES WORKING WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVABLE THRESHOLD AND COMPLYING WITH THE TCMA REAL CHALLENGE.

UM, I THINK FOR ALL THREE OF THE PROJECTS THAT I'VE PRESENTED BEFORE THIS SADDLE RIDGE PINNACLE AND NOW BRIDAL RIDGE, I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE JUST NATURAL AREAS WHERE IT JUST COULDN'T PENCIL JUST DUE TO THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY.

AND SO I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THAT WE'RE COMING BACK AND REQUESTING IT AGAIN.

I THINK THAT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LAND ITSELF KIND OF DRIVE THAT DECISION FOR US A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

AND SO THE, THE AREA WHERE THE HOUSES ARE IN THE GREEN, THE DARK GREEN, UM, HOW ABOUT PENCILING THOSE OUT? DOES THAT HELP AND DOES THAT REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CUT AND FILL THAT WE NEED? WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, THIS GRADING DESIGN IS CONCEPTUAL IN NATURE.

WE'VE TRIMMED DOWN THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO UNDER AN ACRE AND A HALF.

WE CAN ABSOLUTELY KEEP SHARPENING OUR PENCIL ON THAT TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN TRIM DOWN, WHAT OTHER EFFICIENCIES WE CAN GAIN.

UM, I'D LIKE TO FIND, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE SOLUTIONS ON THAT FRONT.

UM, BUT, AND KINDA RUN THAT TO GROUND BEFORE WE COMMIT TO LOSING LOTS FIRST, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

MM-HMM, , YEAH, I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ONE SECTION THAT'S REALLY, AND IT'S WHERE THE GREEN IS THAT IS THE HIGHEST SLOPES AND WILL REQUIRE THE MOST CUT AND FILL, UH, IN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING HERE.

AND SO IF THAT WAS TAKEN OUT, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AS MUCH CUT AND FILL.

UM, YOU LEAVE THAT SLOPE GOING DOWN TO THE WATER RETENTION AREA AND YOU KNOW, THEN YOU ONLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, THE RETENTION, UM, WALLS THAT ARE HERE.

YEAH, I, I DEFINITELY HEAR YOUR, YOUR CONCERN THERE.

I THINK THAT'S A FAIR IDEA AND I THINK THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT AND KIND OF ASSESS THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UH, THE OTHER, UM, YOU, YOU MENTIONED IN THERE, AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE BACKUP ALSO, AND IT SAYS BASICALLY WORKING WITH, UM, UH, DSD, UM, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY MENTION THAT IT WOULD BE WORKING WITH WATERSHED.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS STATED SOMEWHERE.

IT IS.

THAT'S HONESTLY A MISS ON MY PART.

I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS I BELIEVE.

IS IT NOT, I, I THINK I, I THOUGHT IT SAID ON THE, ON THE THING ANYWAY THAT THE, THE DEVICES TO PREVENT EROSION IN THE FUTURE WILL BE WORKED OUT WITH THE WATERSHED ENGINEERS WHO DEAL WITH EROSION AND, UH, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SEVERAL PROJECTS WITH US.

AND, UM, SO I, THEY DON'T HAVE DIRECT REVIEW.

THEY GO THROUGH ME, I GO, I, I I PULL THEM IN TO, TO WORK ON THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS.

SO IT'S MY, I MEAN, I'M THE ONE WHO DOES THE FINAL APPROVAL, BUT I DO IT ONLY WHEN THEY APPROVE IT.

SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE SYSTEM KIND OF WORKS PROCESS WISE WITH THIS.

LIKE I SAY, THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY ON THE REVIEW, BUT UM, WE CAN MAKE THAT EXPLICIT IN THE FINDING OR THE, THE CONDITION.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN IS THERE, UM, I ASSUME ONCE THIS IS ALL DONE, THERE'LL BE AN HOA, IS THAT RIGHT? THERE WILL BE, YES.

OKAY.

SO GETTING BACK TO THE NATIVE PLANT PLANTING, UM, YOU CAN DESIGNATE THAT IN THE HOA, BUT IT HAS TO BE NATIVE PLANTS.

I SEE, OKAY.

YEAH, SO THAT, AND BECAUSE CREATING AN EASEMENT ON EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE.

I HEAR YOU.

YEAH, I, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VALID CONCERN THAT, UH, THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP.

I WANNA DO MY BEST TO ADDRESS IT.

AND I THINK, YEAH, THE, THE HOA DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THE RIGHTS AND ENTITLEMENTS THAT GO INTO THERE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IN MY WHEELHOUSE AS MUCH AS THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, BUT IF THAT'S THE MECHANISM THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, I THINK I'D BE ALL FOR THAT.

OKAY.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT Y'ALL COULD FOLLOW UP WITH AS WELL.

ONCE

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IT'S, IT'S FARTHER DOWN.

UM, THE LINE ON THAT, UM, I DIDN'T SEE IN HERE, UM, ANY TREE STUDY.

GIVE ME A MOMENT.

UM, WE HAVE A TREE SURVEY FOR THE PROPERTY AND SINCE THERE ARE GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY USES, WE SURVEYED TREES EIGHT INCHES AND UP FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

NOW IT'S KINDA HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN.

SO I TRIED TO SUMMARIZE GENERAL TRENDS IN THE BOTTOM LEFT.

THE VAST MAJORITY ARE CEDARS AND MESQUITES.

THERE'S NO HERITAGE TREES ON SITE.

I THINK THE LARGEST TREE IS LIKE A 19 INCH, UH, CEDAR ELM, I BELIEVE.

UM, SO, OKAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DIDN'T SEE IT EARLIER, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS OKAY.

NO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

UM, THAT THAT WAS IN THERE.

UM, LET ME SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN HERE ON ONE OF THESE.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR RIGHT NOW.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION I HADN'T BEEN ASKED.

I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS IF THERE'S BEEN NOTICE OF CERTAIN ANIMAL SPECIES IN THE AREA THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED BY THE BUILDING, LIKE A CONSTRUCTION? NOT SO MUCH ON ANY OF MY SIDE VISITS DIRECTLY.

I KNOW THAT THEY, UH, THIS HAS BEEN RANCH LAND IN THE PAST, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CATTLE OUT THERE OR YOU KNOW, CATTLE TRACKS.

UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN TOO MANY OTHER NATIVE SPECIES JUST FROM MY OWN VISUAL OBSERVATIONS OR ANYTHING REALLY DOCUMENTED OUT THERE.

UM, PAMELA, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN RECALL ON TOP OF THAT? THERE WERE LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL BUTTERFLIES WHEN WE WENT OUT, BUT, UM, NO, WE DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT I'M SURE IT'S THE KIND OF TERRAIN WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE FOXES AND PORCUPINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I'M SURE THEY'LL CONTINUE TO LIVE DOWN IN THE DRAINAGE WHERE THE, BUT AS YOU, AS YOU POINTED OUT, ALL DEVELOPMENT AFFECTS THINGS, SO THEY'LL BE AFFECTED.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, ARE WE ABLE TO SEE THE REMOTE, UM, COMMISSIONERS? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT POPPED UP .

OKAY.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS I DO WANNA ASK, UM, COMMISSIONER BRIAR AND COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, UM, OH, I DIDN'T WRITE ANYTHING DOWN, BUT DID Y'ALL HAVE A CONDITION FROM YOUR QUESTIONS EARLIER? INDEED, I DID.

UH, BECAUSE THE HOME AMENDMENT IS ALMOST SURE TO PASS COUNSEL AND THERE IS THE ABILITY, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT TO PUT ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS ON THIS.

MY ASK IS THAT THE CAPACITY FOR SEWER, ELECTRIC AND WATER BE INCREASED BY 50% IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THIS HOUSE OR ON THESE, THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY.

TONS STALE FOLKS.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DENSER HOUSING, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT CHAIR.

YEAH, WELL I POINT OUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU COULD DO THAT NOW WITHOUT HOME BECAUSE ADU ARE ALLOWED, THIS IS A NEW, THIS IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND SO THERE'S NO BETTER TIME TO ADD THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

WHEREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE KNIT PART OF TOWN I LIVE IN, YOU'D HAVE TO TEAR UP EVERY STREET FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AND AT WHAT COST TO DO IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT AND ALL YOU GOT OUT THERE IS DIRT, THE INCREMENTAL COST TO DO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT WIDER PIPE AND A LITTLE BIT THICKER WIRE.

SO THE INCREMENTAL COST IS MARGINAL COMPARED TO DOING IT LATER ON.

RIGHT.

SO, SO NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT.

OKAY, SO LET ME ASK THIS.

AREN'T WE SET UP KNOWING THAT YOU CAN PUT IN AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT ON ANY LOT TO ALREADY ACCOMMODATE THAT? UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO CON YOU KNOW, CONFIRM WITH AUSTIN WATER AND AUSTIN ENERGY, WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS, BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY'RE THINKING OF THAT NOW.

THE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOME ONE DID PASS, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ALREADY.

AND SO YOU ALREADY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UM, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL UNITS TODAY TO EXISTING LOTS.

UM, WELL YOU HAD, YOU HAD, I DON'T MEAN TO, I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO HAVE TO INTERRUPT.

YOU HAD AN ABILITY TO ADD AT LEAST ONE CORRECT UP UNTIL FEBRUARY NOW YOU CAN ADD TWO, CORRECT? RIGHT.

AND SO I I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY NOT WANT TO RECOMMEND A CERTAIN AMOUNT, UM, OVER WHAT

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IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.

UM, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO DEFER TO OUR TECHNICAL EXPERTS IN AUSTIN WATER AND AUSTIN ENERGY, WHO ARE VERY AWARE OF THESE INITIATIVES.

WELL THEN HOW ABOUT IF WE SAY THAT AUSTIN ENERGY AND AUSTIN WATER SHALL REVIEW THE REQUIREMENTS IN LIGHT OF THE HOME INITIATIVE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THEY WILL ACCOMMODATE THE POTENTIAL ADDITION OF OTHER UNITS? COMMISSIONER EINHORN CAN, CAN I, I IN PRINCIPLE AGREE WITH SORT OF FUTURE PROOFING DEVELOPMENT AS WE GO FORWARD, BUT AS TO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER BRISTOL, VICE CHAIR BRISTOL, UH, SECRETARY BRISTOL ASKED IF WE WERE SOMEBODY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SOMEBODY, YOU ARE SOMEBODY, UH, UM, SECRETARY BRISTOL ASKED ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE AN HOA AND THERE IS GONNA BE AN HOA AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, HOAS HAVE VERY, VERY CLEAR RULES ABOUT SUBDIVIDING LOTS.

AND SO THIS MAY BE A MOOT POINT IF IT'S NOT ALLOWABLE UNDER THE SUB, UNDER THE HO A'S RULES ALSO, EXCEPT THAT THERE'S NO HOA NOW IF, EXCUSE ME, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE, IF I, IF I MAY, THE PAMELA ABBY, DSD IF I MAY POINT OUT.

SO THIS IS A PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND IT IN THIS PUD IT'S NOT UNDER CURRENT CODE, IT'S UNDER A CODE OF THE TIME AT WHICH THE PUD WAS SIGNED.

SO I BELIEVE YOU SAID 2009.

2008.

2002.

2002.

SO THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE SUBJECT TO THE HOME REGULATIONS 'CAUSE THAT WILL BE CURRENT CODE, SO THEY'LL BE UNDER THE PREVIOUS CODE.

SO JUST FYI PROBABLY AS FAR AS AS WE CAN TELL RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, YES.

SO, SO WELL, I MEAN THESE ARE ALL QUALIFYING WORDS NOT BE SUBJECT TO CURRENT CODE.

THESE ARE NOT DEFINITIVE WORDS.

YEAH.

AND I LIKE DEFINITIVE WORDS BECAUSE THEY, THEY CLEARLY DELINEATE THE RULES.

IF YOU START USING WORDS THAT ARE QUALIFYING, THEN I HAVE THIS URGE TO LIMIT THINGS.

SURE.

BY ADDING THINGS INTO THE RESOLUTION.

OF COURSE, IT HASN'T PASSED YET.

HOME TWO HASN'T PASSED YET, BUT, OH, BUT, BUT THIS PUD FOLLOWS THE RULES OF 2002.

IF IT'S NEW CODE, IT WILL NOT FOLLOW THOSE RULES.

AND I ALSO WANT TO INTERJECT, I THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING PRETTY FAR OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO GRANT, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO, UH, AUSTIN WATER OR AUSTIN ENERGY'S BUSINESS MODEL.

THEY'RE NOT HERE, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY DON'T KNOW THESE ARE COMING.

SO THEY DO REVIEW SUBDIVISIONS AS WELL.

UM, SO I, I REALLY DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT WE GET INVOLVED IN THEIR BUSINESS.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP ONE MORE NOTE.

UM, I BELIEVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID I, I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU REALLY QUICK.

DO YOU WANNA KEEP THAT CONDITION IN OR CUT IT BASED ON WHAT THEY TOLD YOU? HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IS I WOULD, SORRY, MY HONOR.

NO, THAT'S FINE.

I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP IT IN UNLESS EVERYONE WANTS TO VOTE ON IT AND THEN HOLD IT OUT.

IF WE VOTE ON IT AS A COMMISSION TO HOLD IT OUT, THEN HEY, THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.

YES OR NO? YES.

CAN I CHIME IN ON THE APPLICANT'S SIDE ON THIS? SURE.

YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN.

I ABSOLUTELY WANT THIS TO BE FUTURE PROOFED.

WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAN STAGE RIGHT NOW.

WE STILL HAVE A FINAL PLAN APPLICATION TO PROCESS AND REVIEW, AND THEN SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLANS OF THE ACTUAL UTILITY DESIGNS.

THAT'S AT A VERY CONCEPTUAL NATURE RIGHT NOW.

UM, AUSTIN WATER WILL ULTIMATELY BE REVIEWING OUR PROFILES AND CAPACITY OF THE WASTEWATER MAINS AND SERVICE LAYOUT IN THE STREET.

AND SO I THINK RATHER THAN ADDING A, A BLANKET 50% INCREASE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR KIND OF THE, THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE JASON ENG AT AUSTIN WATER HAS BEEN KIND OF THE, THE PRIMARY REVIEWER FOR AUSTIN WATER'S PIPELINE DIVISION FOR ALL WILD HORSE PROJECTS.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.

YOU KNOW, AS THEY MENTIONED, I'M SURE AUSTIN WA HAS BEEN THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY NEED TO ADAPT THEIR REVIEW, THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS, THEIR PLAN REQUIREMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM BEFORE WE BEGIN THE FULL DESIGN OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WAY WE HAVE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS ON HOW AUSTIN WATER IS GOING TO HANDLE THIS AND WE CAN BUILD IT IN BEFORE ANY PERMITS ARE EVEN CLOSE TO BEING ISSUED.

AND I THINK WE ADJUSTED THAT BECAUSE WHAT I SUGGESTED IN RES WITH REGARD TO SOMEONE ELSE'S COMMENT, MAYBE IT WAS DAVE'S, I THINK, UM, WE S TOOK OUT THE PART WHERE IT MANDATED A SPECIFIC

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AMOUNT AND SUGGESTED THAT THEY REVIEW IT IN LIGHT OF THE HOME INITIATIVE REQUIREMENTS.

SO THERE WAS NOT A REQUEST TO ADD 50%, ALTHOUGH THAT'S WHAT I INITIALLY SAID.

MY RECOMMENDATION SAY, OKAY, IN LIGHT OF THIS, THEY REVIEW THE REQUIREMENT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT NEW COUNCIL INITIATIVE.

SO THEY MAY COME AND SAY, HEY, WHATEVER, IT'S FINE THE WAY IT IS, OR ADD 10% OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS.

SO I GUESS THE WAY WE, I FINALLY AGREED WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, BRISTOL, WHO, I FORGET NAMES, YOU GET OLD, YOU KNOW, UH, SO, UH, IT WAS THAT WE JUST RECOMMEND A REVIEW BY THEM TO ENSURE THAT THE SIZE OF EVERYTHING IS CORRECT.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

THAT REVIEW IS ABSOLUTELY BUILT INTO THE PROCESS.

THEY'LL BE ANALYZING OUR SYSTEM AND REVIEWING OUR PLANS FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR AFTER, YOU KNOW, THIS PRELIM IS, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY CLOSED OUT AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE FULL DESIGN OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

WELL, AND AND I'M, I'M SORRY.

I DO APOLOGIZE.

IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE HOME INITIATIVE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU PROBABLY WOULD'VE SKATED .

SO, WELL, IT'S A VALID POINT AND I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD SHOWED UP LAST, LAST MEETING, YOU WOULD'VE BEEN HOME BY NOW THOUGH.

OKAY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO RAISE OUR AWARENESS TO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES WHERE I BELIEVE YOU SAID 95% OF THE TREES ARE CEDAR AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER SPECIES? MESQUITE.

MESQUITE.

OKAY.

AND THAT MOST ARE EIGHT INCHES OR LESS IN DIAMETER, CORRECT.

UH, I APOLOGIZE IF THAT WASN'T CLEAR.

WE SURVEYED ALL TREES EIGHT INCHES AND UP.

OH, I SEE.

UM, YEAH, TO COVER THE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL PIECE THERE.

YEAH.

OF THE LIKE PROTECTED TREE SPECIES.

THERE ARE NO HERITAGE TREES ON SITE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL CEDAR ELMS, UH, SEVERAL LIVE OAKS, BUT NONE ARE PROMINENT ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED HERITAGE TREES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AT OUR URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE MEETING LAST TIME, BOBBY LEVINSKY, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, RAISED A GREAT POINT ABOUT OUT CONSIDERING PROTECTIONS FOR NATIVE SPECIES AND JUST THINKING BEYOND HERITAGE TREES AND DIAMETERS, GIVEN THAT WHEN SPECIES LIKE MESQUITE AND CEDAR ARE CHOPPED DOWN, THEY'RE OFTEN NOT REPLACED WITH SIMILAR SPECIES AND THAT AFFECTS HABITAT LOSS, ET CETERA.

SO I JUST WANNA KIND OF ERASE OUR, OUR GROUP AWARENESS TO THAT.

I THINK IT WAS AN EXCELLENT POINT.

IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN URBAN FORESTRY, AND I'M CURIOUS IF YOU CAN COMMENT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND HOW IT IS IMPACTING TREES IN THE AREA.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE EXAMINED ALL OF THEM EIGHT INCHES AND UP, AND YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS, BUT JUST FOR OUR OWN EDIFICATION AND OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE IN TERMS OF TREE LOSS.

YES.

I MEAN, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY TO TELL AS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, STOLEN KIND OF THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN STAGE.

UM, I DO KNOW THAT, UM, SINCE WE ARE IN THE FULL PURPOSE CITY LIMITS, EACH LOT WILL NEED TO HAVE, I BELIEVE, TWO TREES PLANTED, UH, AS PART OF THE CODE COMPLIANCE.

I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF ON WHAT THOSE SPECIES NEED TO LOOK LIKE, UM, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS KIND OF THAT HABITAT LOSS CONCERN.

UM, YEAH, I, I FEEL LIKE I'M HAVING TO WEAR A LITTLE BIT OF A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE HAT, WHICH ISN'T MY FORTE.

SO I, I WANT TO GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY WHEELHOUSE.

I MAY NEED TO LEAN ON STAFF AND OTHER CONSULTANTS ON THE DESIGN TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I, I JUST WANNA ALSO SAY, UM, THIS IS BLACKLAND PRAIRIE.

UM, AND SO PRIOR TO US, UM, YOU KNOW, CULTIVATING IT, UM, WITH RANCH LANDS AND OTHERS, THEN IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE CEDAR AND MESQUITE ON THERE.

UM, THE, IT WOULD BE NATO GRASS PRAIRIES, AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO HAVE, UM, IN THE BOTTOM LANDS IS WHERE THE TREES WOULD BE.

SO I THINK AS WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT, THAT'S LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT WOULD NATURALLY BE THERE, WHICH IS HARD TO SAY BECAUSE TREES WOULD NATURALLY BE THERE.

SO KIND