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6 0 1,

[CALL TO ORDER]

AND YOU'RE AT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THE DATE IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 1ST, AND I THINK THAT, UH, SAM HAS STEPPED AWAY FOR A MOMENT, BUT WHEN HE GETS BACK, WE'LL, WE'LL PROCEED WITH CALLING THE ROLE AND BEGIN THE MEETING.

SAM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS IN ATTENDANCE THAT, UH, CONFIRMED THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.

DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND CALL THE ROLL? LET'S DO IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER HEIM.

SETH IS ABSENT TODAY.

COMMISSIONER WHIT FEATHERSTON PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER KEVIN COOK, PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER CARL LAROCHE.

PRESENT, COMMISSIONER RE, MAY PORTER PRESENT, COMMISSIONER HARMONY GROGAN PRESENT, COMMISSIONER HEMA ALVAREZ.

PRESENT, COMMISSIONER ROXANNE EVANS, PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER RAYMOND CASTILLO IS NOT CURRENTLY HERE.

COMMISSIONER JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO, PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER TARA DUDLEY PRESENT.

THANK YOU, SAM.

UH, I THINK WE'LL GET STARTED WITH,

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION BEFORE WE READ THROUGH THE AGENDA.

THIS IS THE TIME WHEN MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

IF IT'S POSTED ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THAT MOMENT COMES.

UM, SAM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP UNDER PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? WE DO.

FIRST WE HAVE, I THINK ANDREA HILL.

YES.

YES.

GOOD.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, I WAS, WILL YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? MY NAME'S ANDREA HILL, AS SHE JUST SAID.

YEP.

UM, I WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 12, BUT I SEE THAT IT'S BEEN MOVED TO NEXT, NEXT MONTH'S HEARING.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON IS JUST THE GENERAL TOPIC OF HISTORIC VALUE.

THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS GRANTED A DEMO, DEMOLITION PERMIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S BEEN REPLACED BY AN UGLY HALF-BUILT SERIES OF FOUR LITTLE SQUARE BOXES WITH THE WOODEN FRAME AND INSULATION AROUND IT.

APPARENTLY THEY'VE RUN OUTTA MONEY AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA FINISH IT.

IT'S SAT THERE FOR MONTHS.

THERE'S TRASH AND PORTA-POTTIES, AND IT'S A DISRUPTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALTOGETHER.

THIS WAS A DEMOLITION PERMIT YOU GUYS GRANTED FOR 80 AND 82 SAN MARCO STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE ALLEY FROM MY HOUSE.

NOW YOU'RE CONSIDERING NEXT MONTH I'LL SPEAK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 12, WHICH HAS BEEN MOVED.

BUT IN GENERAL TERMS, THIS IS A NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER.

I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THEIR SCHEME OF HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF NATIONAL PEOPLE CONSIDERED IT IMPORTANT, THEN WE SHOULD TOO.

WHETHER IT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN THAT HAS NATIONAL REGISTER, PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T GRANT DEMOLITION PERMITS.

AUSTIN IS BECOMING A SERIES OF UGLY BOX HOUSES AND SKYSCRAPERS.

PLEASE HELP US PRESERVE THE FEW HISTORIC AREAS THAT ARE STILL ALIVE AND STILL IN CENTRAL AUSTIN.

PLEASE DON'T GRANT THESE DEMOLITION PERMITS.

I MEAN, AS I SAY, YOU GRANTED THIS ONE, TWO YEARS AGO, DESPITE THE PROTEST OF THE NEIGHBORS, THEY TOOK AWAY TWO, MAYBE NOT REALLY FABULOUS HOUSES, BUT THEY WERE CLASSIC BUNGALOW HOUSES AND THEY WERE HISTORIC ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.

AND NOW WE'VE GOT UGLY SQUARE BOXES THAT JUST RUINED THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLETELY.

PLEASE, PLEASE HELP ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO KEEP AUSTIN'S HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE ALIVE.

DO NOT JUST GRANT DEMOLITION PERMITS IN HISTORIC REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT'S REALLY DISTURBING AND WE, THE NEIGHBORS GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT IT.

WE'RE PROBABLY THE LAST HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ANYWHERE NEAR DOWNTOWN, AND A LOT OF IT'S TURNED INTO ILLEGAL AIRBNBS, BUT AT LEAST THEY'VE KEPT THE HOUSES AS THEY ARE STRUCTURALLY.

SO PLEASE HONOR THE PEOPLE FROM THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER WHO WENT TO ALL THE TROUBLE TO RATE THIS AS IMPORTANT, AND YOU SHOULD CONSIDER IT AS IMPORTANT AND DO NOT GRANT DEMOLITION PERMITS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR OTHER PARTS OF AUSTIN THAT ARE SIMILARLY

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REGISTERED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.

AND UH, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A COUNTERINTUITIVE THAT A NATIONAL REGISTER, REGISTERED HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE LESS TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL ON A NATIONAL DISTRICT THAN WE DO A LOCAL DISTRICT.

WELL, HERE'S, HERE'S THE THING THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GOTTEN UPSET ABOUT.

AT SOME POINT WHEN WE TESTIFIED ABOUT THIS, THEY SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU REGISTER AS AN AUSTIN LOCAL HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD? THERE'S TWO THINGS STOPPING THAT.

NUMBER ONE IS YOU HAVE TO PAY TWO TO $3,000.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A DETERRENT.

AND NUMBER TWO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENT OF THE NEIGHBORS AGREE TO IT.

AND THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE'S VERY FEW ACTUAL NEIGHBORS WHO OWN AND LIVE IN THEIR HOUSE.

A LOT OF THE HOUSES ARE ILLEGAL.

AIRBNBS, NO, NO.

OWNER IS LIVING IN THEM.

SO WE CAN'T HAVE 60% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREED TO DO IT BECAUSE THERE AREN'T NEIGHBORS LIVING THERE.

JUST A FEW OF US STILL THERE, ACTUALLY OWNER OCCUPIED.

SO EVEN IF WE WANTED TO REGISTER UNDER THE AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS, WE COULD NOT.

BUT REALLY IN MOST EVERYTHING ELSE IN LIFE, NATIONAL RECOGNITION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOCAL.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT CAN'T BE HERE.

AND MY SECOND COMMENT WAS THAT YOU MIGHT, UM, LOOK INTO CALLING CODE ENFORCEMENT ON A, UH, DEAD CONSTRUCTION SITE.

WELL, WE DO, WE'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES.

NO RESPONSE BECAUSE MOST OF THE AIRBNBS ARE RENTED OUT FOR THE WEEKEND AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ONLY WORKS DURING THE WEEK.

OH, I MEANT FOR THE NEGLECTED CONSTRUCTION SITE.

OH, WELL THAT ONE'S ALREADY BEEN CITED FOR SOME WORK VIOLATIONS.

UH, OKAY.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.

IT'S REALLY DISTURBING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE WILL DO THAT.

I DO, I DO HAVE A COUPLE CO COMMENTS.

UM, WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.

THIS IS A BIG ISSUE, UH, IN THE CITY AND MY SHORT TIME BEING HERE, SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO SPEAK UP.

UM, STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

I THINK FOR A LOCAL, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE NEED MINIMUM ONE BLOCK, UM, TO HAVE PROPERTIES, UH, WITHIN ONE BLOCK.

SO IF YOU CAN FIND ONE BLOCK, UH, OF, OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, OWNING OWNERS THAT COME TOGETHER AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN, HAVE ONE BLOCK.

THERE'S ABOUT 10 HOUSES, AND THERE'S THREE ACTUAL OWNER OCCUPIERS .

SO THAT'S NOT ENOUGH PERCENTAGE.

I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH CHALLENGE, UM, BUT ONE BLOCK AND THE, AND THE FEES ARE FRUSTRATING.

I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN CASES WHERE THE COMMISSION CAN INITIATE THINGS AS WELL.

UM, BUT I THINK CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO HEAR THESE WORDS.

WE HAVE A CASE THAT'S GOING AGAIN, UH, TOMORROW AGAINST OWNER WISHES FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND THAT'S PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER.

I THINK IT'S ITEM NUMBER 84, UH, TOMORROW CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SO THIS, YOU'RE KIND OF, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO PREACHING TO THE CHOIR IN SOME CASES.

WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT IN? THAT IS, UH, ON EAST EAST SECOND STREET, EAST SECOND STREET, 1100 EAST SECOND STREET.

SO, SO I THINK CITYWIDE THESE KIND OF ISSUES COME UP AND, UH, IT MAY BE SOMETHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT WHERE WE'RE INITIATING SOMETHING.

WELL, THAT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY.

EAST SECOND IS ONLY A FEW BLOCKS FROM WHERE I AM.

SO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGENDA ITEM.

I THINK CITY COUNCIL SHOULD, SHOULD HEAR FROM MORE CITIZENS.

SO I PROBABLY CAN'T COME TO THAT MEETING BECAUSE OF WORK, BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW.

ALRIGHT, AND SAM, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS ON, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? WE DO.

WE HAVE MR. CLIFTON LED GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS CLIFTON LADD.

I'M A CO-CHAIR OF THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE.

AND, UM, I'M A RESIDENT IN THE TRAVIS SCIENCE FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, JUST ABOUT A HUNDRED YARDS FROM 4 0 9 EAST MONROE, WHICH, UM, Y'ALL HAD PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED.

AND, UM, THEY WERE DENIED A, UH, DEMOLITION PERMIT.

BUT THE HOUSE IS VACANT AND IS FALLING APART.

UH, THIS IS A MATTER THAT I, I KNOW Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT.

I JUST HAD PLANNED TO COME DOWN HERE, UM, TO HEAR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PRESENTATION, WHICH HAS BEEN POSTPONED, UM, A, A SECOND TIME, I GUESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO HEARING THAT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HOPEFULLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS HOUSE PRETTY SOON.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT LONGER TO WAIT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE ADDRESS AGAIN? YEAH, UM, 4 0 9 EAST MONROE.

IT'S AT THE SOUTH WEST CORNER OF, UM, NEWING IN MONROE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT UP WE HAVE MS. SAMANTHA SMOOT.

HI THERE.

MY NAME IS SAMANTHA SMOOT.

I ALSO AM COMING, UH, TO SPEAK VERY QUICKLY ABOUT 4 0 9 EAST MONROE.

I LIVE IN AN ADJOINING PROPERTY.

MANY, MANY

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PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS HOUSE.

WHILE IT IS CERTAINLY STILL, UH, VERY MUCH STRUCTURALLY SOUND, UM, UH, IT IS, UM, UH, UH, KIND OF JUST STUCK BECAUSE WHILE CODE ENFORCEMENT DID ISSUE CITATIONS LAST OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, THERE'S BEEN NO ENFORCEMENT, UH, TAKEN AND THEY'VE HAD SOME STAFF TURNOVER IN THE INSPECTOR POSITIONS.

UM, I WANT TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT I WONDER IF YOU ALL MIGHT CONSIDER, UH, IN YOUR CAPACITY AS COMMISSIONERS SENDING A WORD, UH, TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ASK THEM.

AND I, I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, YOU'VE BEEN EXPECTING A BRIEFING FROM THEM ON THE OVERALL ISSUE OF DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT AND THEIR, THEIR PROCESS IN THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR.

AND I WISH IT WAS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR THEM AND HOPE TO SEE THEM AT YOUR MEETING, UH, NEXT MONTH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A A 20 FOOT PILE OF RUBBLE IN THE SIDE YARD.

THERE'S UPSIDE DOWN FURNITURE IN THE FRONT YARD, AND THE CITY HAS MANY TOOLS AT ITS DISPOSABLE TO, UH, PROTECT THIS HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT AND DECIDED IT'S WORTH PROTECTING.

AND WE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CERTAINLY BELIEVE IT'S PROTECT, WORTH, PROTECTING, AND VERY MUCH SOUND.

AND HOPEFULLY, UH, SINCE IT HAS A COMING SOON FOR SALE SIGN IN FRONT OF IT, WE VERY MUCH HOPE A NEW OWNER, UH, WILL BE IN PLACE SOON, WHO, UH, IS READY TO KEEP THE ENVELOPE OF THE HOUSE, UH, UH, WHILE THEY PUT IN A MONITOR INSIDE, WHICH IS A, A PLAN THAT YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROVED.

SO THAT'S ALL, JUST KEEPING IT ON YOUR RADAR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND WE ARE EXPECTING A PRESENTATION FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AT THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.

UM, IT MIGHT BE WORTH, UH, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT 4 0 9 EAST MONROE, AND IF THEY WANTED TO USE THAT SORT OF AS A CASE STUDY TO TALK ABOUT THE WAY THEY APPROACH PROJECT, THAT MIGHT BE VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, NEXT UP WE HAVE MEGAN KING.

HI EVERYBODY.

UM, MEGAN KING, POLICY AND OUTREACH PLANNER FOR PRESERVATION AUSTIN, UM, WITH YOUR MONTHLY UPDATE.

UM, WANTED TO SHARE, UM, WORDS OF THANKS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO CAME OUT AND SUPPORTED THE HOMES TOUR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

IT WAS OUR BIGGEST ONE YET.

WE HAD LIKE 2000 PLUS TICKETS SOLD OR SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THAT.

UM, SO IT WAS, IT WAS WONDERFUL AND WELL ATTENDED EVENT, SOME GREAT, UM, HOUSES IN, ON THE EAST SIDE AND ALL AROUND TOWN THAT WE WERE REALLY EXCITED TO CELEBRATE.

SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS COMING UP, WALKING TOURS OF UNDERREPRESENTED HERITAGE SITES OVER THE SUMMER.

I'LL SHARE MORE ABOUT THAT, UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS.

AND ALSO OUR, UM, SUMMER GRANT DEADLINE IS COMING UP ON JUNE 15TH.

SO, UM, IT'S FOR PRESERVATION PROJECTS ALL AROUND TOWN.

UM, WE OFFER MATCHED GRANT FUNDING OF UP TO $10,000 IN CATEGORIES OF EDUCATION, BRICKS AND MORTAR AND PLANNING.

SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A HISTORIC DISTRICT LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEY CAN APPLY TO A GRANT, UM, FROM US FOR THAT.

AND YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT@PRESERVATIONAUSTIN.ORG.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, LASTLY, WE HAVE ROBIN SANDERS.

SAM, I ALSO WANTED TO TAG ALONG TO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

SO I'LL BE LAST.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ROBIN SANDERS AND I'M A NEIGHBOR ALSO OF THE 4 0 9 MONROE PROPERTY.

I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO ADD.

I'D LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO SAM, WHO'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING ME UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE PROCEDURALLY WITH THIS, BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DELAYS CONSTITUTING, UH, GRANTING BY DEFAULT BECAUSE OF THE RUNNING OF DEADLINES.

SO WE HAVE CLARIFIED THAT THERE'S NOT ACTUALLY ANYTHING BEFORE YOU, OTHER THAN THIS ISSUE OF CODE VERSUS THE DENIAL OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT AND HOW WE MIGHT GO ABOUT ENFORCING, UM, WHAT THE NEIGHBORS AND I THINK THE COMMISSION AS WELL, UH, WANTS TO SEE COME OUT OF THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE SAM, UH, THE INFORMATION I HAVE IS THAT THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE IS GONNA ADDRESS THIS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ON THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, BUT I HOPE YOU CAN GET IT TOGETHER SOON TO, TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

WE'VE BEEN CONCERNED, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION DENIED THE DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUEST 15 MONTHS AGO AT THE FEBRUARY, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS FEBRUARY, COULD

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HAVE BEEN MARCH, I THINK IT WAS FEBRUARY 23 MEETING.

AND WE HAVE BEEN A SAMANTHA SAID, STUCK, UH, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY REAL MOVEMENT BY CODE.

IT'S CERTAINLY AN EYESORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M A COUPLE OF HOUSES AWAY AND WE JUST MOSTLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS, BUT REMIND YOU THAT CONTINUING DELAY DOES CONTRIBUTE TO BOTH THE BLIGHT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LACK OF REHABILITATION OF THIS VERY SPECIAL AND STATUES CAST.

SO, UH, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S FALLING APART.

WE FEEL LIKE IT'S STRUCTURALLY SOUND.

WE'VE HAD ASSESSMENTS BY, UH, BUILDERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT AFFIRMED THAT.

SO WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT ON YOUR RADAR.

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT MONTH WITH A BRIEFING FROM CODE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF A RIGHT HAND, LEFT HAND MESHING IN ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND, UH, UNDER PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, MY NAME'S WHIT FEATHERSTON.

I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.

UM, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING THAT I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE IS BOTH A LITTLE BIT WONKY AND PARTIALLY OVERCOME BY EVENTS, BUT, UH, I THINK I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION, THAT WHEN I SUPPORTED THE HOME INITIATIVE, IT WAS CONTINGENT ON THE PRESERVATION BONUS BEING INCLUDED AND BEING INTERPRETED IN A CERTAIN WAY THAT MEANT THAT A THREE UNIT DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE AND ALLOWED FAR OF 0.65, BUT A PRESERVED STRUCTURE ON THAT SITE WOULD BE EXEMPTED FROM THAT 0.65 FAR, THUS, ALLOWING THE TWO ADDITIONAL NEW UNITS TO BE LARGER AND THUS BEING AN INCENTIVE TO PRESERVATION.

UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AS WRITTEN STAFF HAS INTERPRETED THAT SCENARIO TO ACTUALLY BE A TWO UNIT PROJECT, UH, AND THEREFORE ONLY ALLOWING A 0.55 FAR EVEN THOUGH THE EXISTING UNIT WOULD BE EXEMPTED.

IT WOULD ALSO JUST BE NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF, UM, THE PLAN AND THEREFORE IT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA RATIO.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE INCENTIVE IS NO LONGER INCENTIVIZING PRESERVATION.

UM, I THINK THAT WHEN I SAID THIS HAS BEEN PARTIALLY OVERCOME BY EVENTS PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALREADY TAKEN THIS UP AND SENT WORD TO COUNCIL THAT THEY SHOULD CORRECT THIS.

AND SO I'M JUST SORT OF PILING ONTO THAT AND SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, UM, FOR MY INTENT WHEN WE VOTED ON A LETTER TO BE SENT UP TO COMMISSION IN SUPPORT OF THE HOME INITIATIVE, UM, LINDSEY DARRINGTON, THE HEAD OF PRESERVATION AUSTIN, WAS, YOU KNOW, QUOTED RECENTLY AND I'LL, I'LL PARAPHRASE.

BASICALLY THE INCENTIVE IS TO GET PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE INTERESTED IN PRESERVATION TO PARTICIPATE IN PRESERVATION.

SO YOU NEED A LITTLE KICKER TO GET THEM TO ENGAGE.

UM, WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT GETTING PRESERVATIONISTS TO ENGAGE.

WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING THE AVERAGE DEVELOPER WHO MAY NOT THINK OTHERWISE TO ENGAGE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

WITH THAT, I WILL JUMP INTO THE

[Consent Agenda (Part 1 of 2)]

READING OF THE AGENDA.

I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE AS I READ THROUGH THE WHOLE AGENDA WHICH ONES ARE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT AND CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

UM, AND I WILL REITERATE THOSE SEPARATELY AT THE END.

BUT JUST FYI IF THEY ARE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT, UM, THAT IS TO TAKE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SO TAKE A LOOK AT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UM, NUMBER ONE AGENDA ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3RD, 2024 MEETING.

AGENDA ITEM TWO IS A BRIEFING FROM THE CODE DEPARTMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS NOT ACTUALLY HAPPENING TODAY, CORRECT.

AGENDA ITEM THREE IS 21 0 2 4 OAKS LANE.

THAT IS A COMMISSION INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING.

AND THAT IS PROPOSED FOR DISCUSSION.

AGENDA ITEM 4 8 0 1 LYDIA STREET IS A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT, UM, A TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THAT STRUCTURE.

UH, AGENDA ITEM FIVE 1000 BLANCO STREET, UH, BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION OUTBUILDING AND CONCRETE PAD IS AGAIN A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT ITEM, UH, AGENDA ITEM 6 1 0 0 6 CONGRESS AVENUE, UH, TO PAINT A MURAL THAT IS OFFERED UP FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 7 12 0 1 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD.

THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 8 4 1 1 0 AVENUE F THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND ADDITION TO THE MAIN HOUSE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

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UH, AGENDA ITEM 9 1 4 0 9 ALTA VISTA AVENUE, UH, IS A TOTAL DEMOLITION.

WE HAVE A SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION, SO THAT WILL BE PULLED FROM CONSENT AND WE'LL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM TEN TWO FIVE TWO ONE HARRIS BOULEVARD, NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THAT ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 11 5 1 6 EAST EAST SIXTH STREET.

THE ALTERATION AND RENOVATION OF THE PROPERTY IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 12 9 0 0 SPENCE STREET, TOTAL DEMOLITION IS A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT.

AGENDA ITEM 13 3 0 0 7 OAKMONT BOULEVARD.

PARTIAL DEMOLITION, IN ADDITION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 14 1 1 0 2 CHARLOTTE STREET.

NEW CONSTRUCTION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 15, UH, 1 0 0 8 SPENCE STREET, PARTIAL DEMOLITION, ADDITION TO THE MAIN HOUSE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 16 2 3 0 7 WINDSOR ROAD.

NUMBER TWO, THE TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THAT PROJECT, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PULLED BY THE APPLICANT THAT IS THE DEMOLITION PERMIT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, SO IT'LL NO LONGER BE HEARD TONIGHT.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS NOT AN ACTIONABLE ITEM.

DO YOU WANT ME TO, I HAVE, I HAVE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SAY THEM NOW OR SHOULD WE SAY THEM IN ORDER? LIKE AS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16? I THINK NOW, PROBABLY NOW I'M GONNA FINISH READING THE AGENDA AND I'LL COME BACK TO THIS ONE.

OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM 17 3 2 0 5 TOM GREEN STREET.

UM, THAT IS A TOTAL DEMOLITION AND THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 18, 400 WEST LIVE OAK STREET AS A SITE PLAN EXEMPTION.

AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO, COMMISSIONER, I'D LIKE TO PULL NUMBER 18.

GOTCHA.

AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANYTHING THAT I'M READING, YOU CAN JUST HOLLER AND I'LL MARK IT DOWN.

ALSO, IF YOU KNOW WE'VE ALREADY GONE PAST IT, I WILL REREAD THE ITEMS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND AT THAT TIME YOU CAN JUMP BACK IN AND AND PULL ONE.

SO, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

AGENDA ITEM 19 7 3 0 4 KNOX LANE IS A RELOCATION THAT IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION AGENDA.

ITEM 28 0 1 WEST 29TH STREET, A PARTIAL DEMOLITION THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 21 5 0 1 TEXAS AVENUE, A PARTIAL DEMOLITION.

WE HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION.

SO THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 22 8 0 3 RIVER ROAD A TOTAL DEMOLITION.

THAT ONE IS A DISCUSSION AGENDA.

ITEM 23 5 5 1 4 MONT VIEW STREET TOTAL DEMOLITION.

THAT ONE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 24 2 8 0 6 PECO STREET A TOTAL DEMOLITION, THAT ONE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM 25 1 2 0 5 COTTON STREET.

THAT ONE IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AND THEN WE HAVE COMMISSION ITEMS. ITEM 26, APPROVE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FY 24 25.

ITEM 27, VOTE TO APPROVE A LETTER TO COUNSEL ON THE UNIVERSITY JUNIOR HIGH.

ITEM 28, VOTE TO NOMINATE A COMMISSIONER TO SERVE ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION MISSION AGENDA.

ITEM 29 IS AN UPDATE FROM THE GRANTS COMMITTEE.

30 IS AN UPDATE FROM THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.

31 IS THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND 32 IS THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.

SO THOSE ARE OUR AGENDA ITEMS THIS EVENING ON AGENDA

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ITEM 16.

OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA CHIME IN AND, AND SAY MY PIECE ON THIS ONE BRIEFLY.

UM, WE, WE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS ON, ON THAT PROPERTY.

UM, THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, WHO WOULD'VE BEEN THE HISTORIC ASSOCIATION, UH, AT A TIME, I MEAN, HE HAD, HE HAD AN ILLUSTRIOUS CAREER IN THE PUBLIC EYE.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN HE MADE VERY DISPARAGING REMARKS ABOUT NATIVE AMERICANS, SPECIFICALLY THE AWA TRIBE.

AND IT, IT WAS INTERESTING TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT, WOULD WE CONSIDER HIS HISTORIC ASSOCIATION WITH

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THIS STRUCTURE? AND I THINK THAT IT'S ALMOST IN SPITE OF THAT, THAT WE WOULD, THAT HEARING HIS STORY COMPELLED ME TO DO RESEARCH ABOUT THE TOWA AND, AND TO A DEPTH THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE OTHERWISE.

AND OUR HISTORY IS COMPLICATED.

UM, THERE ARE HEROES AND VILLAINS, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME PERSON.

AND I, I READ THIS ARTICLE A LONG TIME AGO BY A POP CULTURE WRITER, CHUCK STERMAN.

HE'S WRITING AN ARTICLE ABOUT A BA UH, A BASKETBALL GAME THAT ONLY HE AND A FEW OTHER DOZEN PEOPLE WITNESSED.

AND IT WAS BETWEEN THE UNITED TRIBES TECHNICAL COLLEGE AND NORTH DAKOTA STATE UNIVERSITY SAID, AND THIS WAS A FOOTNOTE TO THAT STORY, HE SAID, NO, AMERICAN MINORITY IS LESS REPRESENTED IN THE NATIONAL CONSCIOUS THAN NATIVE AMERICANS.

WANT PROOF RECALL OF THE MILITARY MISSION THAT KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN? WHAT CODE NAME DID THE US NAVY SEALS ASSIGNED TO BIN LADEN THE MOST HATED MAN IN THE WORLD? GERONIMO.

THEY REFERRED TO BIN LADEN AS GERONIMO FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER.

NOW, I REALIZE REFERRING TO AN ENEMY TARGET AS GERONIMO IS NOT EXACTLY A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

YET, HOW MANY MEMBERS OF THE MASS MEDIA COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS? HOW MANY OF US EVEN NOTICED CONVERSATIONAL BIAS AGAINST NATIVE AMERICANS IS SO INGRAINED THAT NOBODY EVEN RECOGNIZED WHEN THEY ARE INSULTED? AND MR. O'QUINN, THE MAN WHO HAD HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS WITH THIS PROPERTY, UM, SAID MANY HISTORICALLY INACCURATE AND OFFENSIVE THINGS ABOUT THE KOWA.

BUT THE ONE THAT STRUCK ME WAS, HE SAID, AS FAR AS HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, THEY HAD NONE.

THEY WERE A SMALL, INSIGNIFICANT TRIBE, WHICH IS ALSO INACCURATE.

I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT HE GOT WHAT HE WANTED BY DIMINISHING THEIR HISTORY.

AND I THINK THAT ONE WAY TO RIGHT THAT WRONG IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS MAN AND HIS BIGOTRY TOWARDS THE NATIVE AMERICANS.

UM, AGAIN, THAT'S SORT OF COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO SAY, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS EVEN NO LONGER ON OUR AGENDA.

SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THAT TIME.

OKAY.

[Consent Agenda (Part 2 of 2)]

AGAIN, I WILL, I WILL RE-REVIEW THE CONSENT ITEMS WE HAVE.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER RUBIO, WHICH ONE WAS IT THAT YOU PULLED? 16.

MARKED THAT 18.

18.

OKAY.

AGAIN, TO ALL PRESENT, IF YOU HEAR ONE OF THESE THAT YOU, YOU WANT TO BE DISCUSSED, UH, DO SO NOW.

OTHERWISE THEY WILL PASS ON CONSENT WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO I HAVE ITEM NUMBER 6 1 0 0 6 CONGRESS AVENUE, ITEM 7 12 0 1 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD.

ITEM 8 4 100 0 AVENUE F.

ITEM TEN TWO FIVE TWO ONE HARRIS BOULEVARD, ITEM 11 5 1 6 EAST SIXTH ITEM 13, 3 0 0 7 OAKMONT BOULEVARD.

ITEM 14 1 1 0 2 CHARLOTTE ITEM 15, 1 0 0 8 SPENCE STREET, ITEM 28 0 1 WEST 29TH.

ITEM 23 5 5 1 4 MON VIEW STREET ITEM 24 2 8 0 6 PECO STREET.

DO I HEAR, AND ITEM ONE, THE APRIL 23RD, OR, YEAH, APRIL 20, 24 MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT ETCHING THAT, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND WITH A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE AND A SECOND FROM MCCARTER? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE.

AYE.

UNANIMOUS.

AND THEN WE WILL, UH, RUN THROUGH THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT ITEMS. SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT POSTPONEMENT 8 0 1 LYDIA STREET, ITEM NUMBER 5 1 0 0 0 BLANCO STREET.

AND ITEM NUMBER 12 900 SPENCE ARE ALL OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

POSTPONEMENT, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS? SO MOVED.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE.

AYE.

THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT PASSES AGAIN, IF YOUR AGENDA ITEM WAS ON THE CONSENT OR CONSENT POSTPONEMENT, UM, YOU'RE FREE TO STICK AROUND FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING AND PARTICIPATE IN SOME WONDERFUL CONTENT.

UH, OKAY.

SO OUR FIRST AGENDA

[3. PR-2024-008278 – 2102 Four Oaks Ln.]

ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 3 2 1 0 2 4 OAKS LANE.

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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, UM, IS A COMMISSION INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING, UH, REQUEST, UM, UH, 21 0 2 4 OAKS LANE BLUFF VIEW HOUSE, UH, THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND, OR THE COMMISSION INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING, UM, ON THE BASIS OF ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS AT OUR APRIL 3RD, 2024 MEETING.

UM, THIS BUILDING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF CONTEMPORARY MID-CENTURY DESIGN WITH SPANISH ECLECTIC STYLISTIC INFLUENCES.

IT WAS DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED BY DEVELOPER JACK BROWNING FOR THE 1969 PARADE OF HOMES HOSTED BY THE AUSTIN HOME BUILDER BUILDERS ASSOCIATION IN THE GROWING BARTON HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS A HOME, ESPECIALLY DESIGNED FOR A SPECIFIC SITE, STATES BROWNING IN A 1969 ARTICLE.

THE BUILDING IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BARTON HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD, EMBLEMATIC OF THE CITY'S OVERALL POST-WAR CHANGES AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.

THE BUILDING EXEMPLIFIES THE GOALS OF THE PARADE OF HOMES, A SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN WITH UNIQUE FINISHES AND FEATURES THAT REPRESENTED AN EXCELLENT MARKETING OPPORTUNITY FOR JACK BROWNING'S RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ENDEAVORS.

THE STATESMAN PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE CELEBRATING THE PARADE'S SUCCESS AT SECURING A BUYER FOR THE HOUSE NAMED BLUFF VIEW.

THE NEW HOMEOWNER, JACK MAGNERS WORKED AS AN AERONAUTICAL ENGINEER FOR TRICORE AND HAD MOVED TO AUSTIN WITH HIS FAMILY TWO YEARS PRIOR BY BUILDING MODEL HOUSES.

FOR EVENTS LIKE THE PARADE OF HOMES, BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS COULD HIGHLIGHT THE ATTRACTIVE AND LIVABLE QUALITIES OF THEIR VOLUME BUILT HOUSES AND MARKET NEW SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENTS TO MASSES OF POTENTIAL HOME BUYERS.

ACCORDING TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORDS, THE PROPERTY WAS OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILIES FROM 1994 TO 2023.

AND FROM 1978 TO 1994, THE MASSIVE STECCO FIREPLACE AND MARRIOT ACCENT WHILE DESCRIBED IN THE 1969 BARTON HILLS PARADE OF HOMES ADVERTISEMENTS MARINE REMAIN IN C TWO.

UH, THE BUILDING DISPLAYS HIGH INTEGRITY, THOUGH THE DECORATIVE UPPER FLOOR RAILING HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A SIMPLER WOODEN RAILING AND THE PANELING ABOVE THE DOOR HAS BEEN REPLACED.

A SMALL ADDITION WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1974.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND 'CAUSE THIS IS A INITIATION OF EXOR HISTORIC ZONING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE HISTORIC ZONING? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS OPPOSED TO THE HISTORIC ZONING? DO COMMISSIONERS, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? DO WE HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE MOTION, PROBABLY.

OR, OR SHOULD WE MOVE TO, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? HOW ABOUT THAT? SO MOVED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES.

OKAY.

UH, FIRST BY COMMISSIONER RUBIO AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROCHE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, SAY, AYE.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE, AYE, UH, THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE SO WE CAN OPEN UP DISCUSSION? OKAY.

I, I THINK WE HAVE TO REOPEN IF WE'RE RECOMMENDING.

SO I MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING BASED ON ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS.

AND DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE DISCUSSION.

AND A SECOND FROM COMM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONER RUBIO, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UM, UM, I THINK THE PACKET WAS, WAS FOR ME WAS ENOUGH RESEARCH INFORMATION, UM, TO KIND OF BRING SOME HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO TO THE CITY AND ITS GROWTH AT LARGE.

I THINK THAT IN AND OF ITSELF, UH, ALONG WITH ARCHITECTURE IS, IS WORTHY ENOUGH.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, UM, HOUSES WE SEE IN MAGAZINES OR NEWSPAPERS THAT AREN'T CONSIDERED HISTORIC OR WORTHY OF SOME KIND OF HISTORY.

SO I THINK ALL THAT DOCUMENTATION IN THE PACKET SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE HOPING, I THINK AS WELL AS LAST MONTH BY INITIATING THAT MAYBE WE'D GET SOME OWNER CONTACT.

UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO APPEAR THAT ANYBODY'S HERE TONIGHT, BUT, UM, YEAH.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, DO YOU HAVE A PERSPECTIVE AS THE SECONDER? WELL, I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

YEAH.

I APOLOGIZE.

MR, COULD YOU, CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR, THERE YOU GO.

COULD YOU BRIEF ME AS TO, WE INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING AT THE LAST MEETING.

YEAH, THAT WAS A NINE TO ONE VOTE.

IT SAYS COMMISSIONER MCCARTER OPPOSED THE MOTION NINE TO ONE AND IT PASSED.

AND SO TONIGHT'S ACTION BEFORE US IS RECOMMENDATION.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

YEAH,

[00:35:03]

I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ONE.

I THINK THAT IT COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY FOR ME AND I, I, I WAS HOPING THAT, UM, MOVING IT ALONG IN THE PROCESS WOULD PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION FOR, FOR ME, THAT WOULD MAKE MY DECISION EASIER AND ALSO TIME TO GET ANYBODY HERE FOR OR AGAINST, UM, TO SHED SHED SOME LIGHT ON THEIR POSITIONS.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT, UH, DID NOT HAPPEN.

UM, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THIS BEING A RECOMMENDATION OF HISTORIC ZONING, WE WOULD NEED TO REACH A SUPER MAJORITY, WHICH WOULD BE NINE OF THE 11 SEATED MEMBERS, UM, INDEPENDENT OF WHO'S PRESENT, IT IS THE NUMBER OF SEATED MEMBERS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

UM, OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN WE GET A STAFF TIMELINE UPDATE, UM, FOR HOW MANY MORE MONTHS WE HAVE, OR WEEKS COMMISSIONER MCC QUARTER AS THE, UH, LOAN DISSENTER OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING? DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE? I THINK THAT THE BAR SHOULD BE PRETTY HIGH FOR THIS KIND OF THING, AND I'M, I'M JUST NOT PERSUADED THAT BEING ON THE PARADE TO HOMES IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO MAKE IT WORTH GOING AGAINST AN OWNER'S WISHES.

I WISH THE OWNER WAS HERE, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER.

BUT, UM, I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAD THE VERY FIRST PARADE TO HOMES IN 1956.

UM, MANY OF THOSE HOMES ARE STILL STANDING.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO APPLY THIS LOGIC TO ALL OF THOSE HOMES.

THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF HOMES ON PARADES OVER THE COURSE OF 60, 70 YEARS.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, AND, AND ALL OF THEM GET ARTICLES AND SPOTLIGHTS IN THE STATESMEN OR THE AUSTIN AMERICAN.

SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY THAT THIS HOUSE, JUST BECAUSE, UH, IT'S BEFORE US, UM, IS WORTHY OF THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I STAND ON IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

JUST TO CHIME IN, IT WILL TIME OUT ON JUNE 17TH.

AND IF I MAY, UM, I'M NOT INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS EITHER.

I, I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN THIS, UM, I ATTENDED A, A STATE SALE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND DROVE AROUND, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT, THAT CAUGHT MY EYE.

BUT, UM, I, I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS THE IMPACT EVEN HIGHLY JUSTIFIABLE, UH, DESIGNATION EFFORTS HAVE MADE ON LOCAL AND STATE LEVELS.

AND, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL WITH APPLYING THIS.

I DO AGREE THE OWNER BEING HERE TO SPEAK WOULD'VE DEFINITELY HELPED IN THAT REGARD.

UM, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.

UH, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE FIREPLACE INSIDE IS REALLY INTERESTING, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD EVEN PROTECT.

UM, I, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, IS INDICATIVE OF A MOVEMENT OR A PART OF OUR HISTORY THAT IS RISES TO THE LEVEL OF, UH, THE IMPACT THAT A RECOMMENDATION WOULD CAUSE.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER COMMENT? I WILL CALL THE VOTE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER.

WE GO, UM, ALTHOUGH SUPPOSE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

AND EIGHT AGAINST.

SO THE COMMISSION, THE MOTION DOES NOT PASS.

I YOU'RE ABSTAINING.

OKAY.

SO 1 7 1, DO WE HAVE TO TAKE UP AN ALTERNATE MOTION OR THAT'S WHERE THIS ENDS? WE HAVE TO TAKE UP A MOTION TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO RELEASE A DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE? SO MOVED.

I HAVE A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND, AND I'LL JUST SPEAK TO THIS, THAT, UH, I DO LIKE THIS HOUSE VERY MUCH, AND I LIKE MANY OF THE FEATURES.

AND SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE

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THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S GONNA MEET THE CRITERIA.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, MY, UH, OPPOSITION TO, UH, LANDMARK STATUS IS NOT NECESSARILY MY, UH, ENTHUSIASM FOR DEMOLITION .

THANK YOU.

AND I'LL, I'LL BACK THAT UP.

UM, I MADE THE MOTION BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I WOULD ENJOY PARTICIPATING IN HEROIC EFFORT TO SAVE MORE, UM, I'M BEING PRAGMATIC ABOUT IT.

UH, WHICH ALSO MEANS HAVING TO DO SOME OF THE MORE DISTASTEFUL THINGS THAT WE ARE FORCED TO DO, UH, WHICH INCLUDES RECOMMENDING OR RELEASING DEMOLITION PERMITS WHERE WE DON'T BELIEVE IT RISES TO THE STANDARD OF A LANDMARK, WHICH IS THE CASE HERE.

I THINK THAT WE AS A COMMISSION, UH, AND MAYBE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL, ACKNOWLEDGE THE HEAVY LIFT THAT WOULD BE BEFORE US IF WE WERE TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING AS WE SEND THIS ON TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND ON TO, UM, COUNCIL.

AND WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY OR, OR OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS, IT'S JUST HARD TO SEE THAT, THAT, UM, JUICE WOULD BE WORTH THE SQUEEZE, SO TO SPEAK.

YEAH, AND I'LL, I'LL NOTE THAT, YEAH, COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR AND AGAINST DEFINITELY PLAYS A BIG ROLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY VALUE.

BUT I'VE JUST SEEN A NUMBER OF OUR CASES THAT I THOUGHT WERE INSIGNIFICANT CASES KIND OF COME BACK TO ME IN SOCIAL SETTINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I HEARD THE SO-AND-SO CASE ON, ON THE LISTSERV WHERE THIS HAPPENS AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACTS GET ULTIMATELY TWISTED, WHICH WE CAN'T CONTROL.

BUT ANYTIME WE DO THIS, WE ARE, UH, PUTTING OURSELVES OUT THERE FOR, FOR JUDGMENT IN A FORUM THAT WE CAN'T OFTEN CONTROL.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL TO PICK THE STRONGEST, UH, CASES THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO SAFE.

YEAH.

I'M JUST GONNA ADD FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMUNITY THAT'S HEARING THESE, THESE IDEAS THAT WE NEED YOUR ALL SUPPORT, UM, I THINK WE HAD A THREAT OF ALMOST 70 PEOPLE TO COME ON THIS OTHER MID-CENTURY PROPERTY THAT GOT PULLED.

UM, YOU ALL DID THAT.

THE PUBLIC SPOKE OUT.

THE PUBLIC GATHERED THEIR NEIGHBORS TOGETHER TO MAKE IT A STAND AND OPPOSITION AGAINST THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSES BEING TORN DOWN.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE STRAPPED IN OUR RULES, BUT WE NEED THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT.

WE NEED THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT.

IT'S CRAZY TO ME THAT WE CAN LOOK AT ONE MID-CENTURY HOUSE AND SAY, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

WE WISH WE COULD SAVE IT.

AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, IT HAS A REAL HIGH PROFILE NAME, WE WANT TO KEEP IT, OR IT HAS HISTORY ASSOCIATED WITH THE VERY PROMINENT FIGURE OR L-G-B-T-Q HISTORY, AND WE WANNA KEEP IT.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES THAT DON'T HAVE THAT NAME ASSOCIATION.

AND IT'S, IT'S EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING AND UNFORTUNATE THAT WE CAN BE FOR THESE HOUSES BEING SAVED, BUT WE ARE STRAPPED WITH WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO WE NEED THE PUBLIC TO ACTUALLY COME OUT AND SPEAK UP AGAINST, UH, THESE THINGS.

THAT'S ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A DEMOLITION DI UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE.

THAT WAS 1, 2, 3, 7 4.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE, I JUST HAVE A, I HAVE LIKE A MUSCLE THING TO RAISE MY HAND EVERY TIME I SAY IT OUT LOUD.

UM, AND TOO OPPOSED.

SO MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

ONTO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM I HAVE.

ITEM NUMBER 9 1 4 0 9

[9. PR-2024-033568 – 1409 Alta Vista Ave. Travis Heights-Fairview Park National Register Historic District]

ALTA VISTA.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, 1 4 0 9 ALTA VISTA AVENUE.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1926 HOUSE IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS IS A ONE STORY CRAFTSMAN WITH HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, SCREEN WOOD WINDOWS, DECORATIVE SHUTTERS, A HOODED ENTRYWAY WITH DECORATIVE BRACKETS AND EC CLIPPED GABLE ROOF.

THE HOUSE AT 1409 ALT VISTA WAS BUILT AROUND 1926 UNTIL 1947.

ITS OCCUPANTS WERE MOSTLY SHORT-TERM OWNERS AND RENTERS, INCLUDING AN ENGINEER, A STATE HIGHWAY INSPECTOR, AN OFFICE MANAGER, AND A MECHANIC.

THE HOME WAS THEN PURCHASED BY FRANK AND LAURA CONNOLLY.

FRANK WAS THE EDITOR, OWNER AND PUBLISHER OF THE TEXAS TAX JOURNAL.

WHILE AURORA WORKED AT BOTH AT THE JOURNAL AND AS A RED CROSS NURSE.

THE CONNOLLY SOLD THE HOME IN THE LATE 1950S TO ANNA AND WILLIAM DUNCAN.

WILLIAM DUNCAN WORKED AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER.

THE PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

UM, HOWEVER, STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ADAPTIVE REUSE AND REHABILITATION, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION BET TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

UM, AND JUST A NOTE, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MUST REVIEW PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS BEFORE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT IS RELEASED.

THANK YOU.

[00:45:02]

THANK YOU.

CALL AND BECAUSE THIS IS A, THE PROPOSAL IS A TOTAL DEMOLITION, SPEAKERS IN FAVOR WOULD BE SUPPORTING THAT APPLICATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN FAVOR? SEEING NONE.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS OPPOSED? YES, WE HAVE MR. CLIFTON LEAD.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS CLIFTON LATT AND I'M CO-CHAIR OF THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE IN A RESIDENT OF THE TRIBAL HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT INCLUDES 353 ACRES OF THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.

IT INCLUDES THE CORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOST OF THE OLDEST HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE DISTRICT WAS APPROVED IN JULY, 2021 BECAUSE IT MEETS THE REQUIRED ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR PROTECTION ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

I URGE YOU TO DISAPPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION OF 1409 ALT VISTA.

ALT VISTA IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STREETS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE RECENT PRESERVATION AUSTIN HISTORIC STORE FEATURED THE MABEL DAVIS HOME AT 1308 ALTA VISTA, JUST ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS HOME.

PROPOSED FOR DEMOLITION 1409 ALTA VISTA IS A BEAUTIFUL ONE STORY CRAFTSMAN HOME BUILT IN APPROXIMATELY 1926.

I APPRECIATE THE STAFF REVIEW OF THIS HOME AND THEY FOUND SOME GOOD INFORMATION, THOUGH I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY MAY YET, UH, MEET THREE OF THE REQUIRED DESIGNATION CRITERIA FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK STATUS.

SO I URGE YOU TO EVALUATE THIS FURTHER.

UM, AS CAN BE SEEN IN THE PHOTOS WITH YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL, THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT VISIBLE EVIDENCE OF STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS OR MAJOR MAINTENANCE NEEDS OF THIS HOME.

IN FACT, THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 3RD HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING THAT Y'ALL APPROVED EARLIER TONIGHT STATED THAT THIS HOME WAS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR ADDITION AND REMODEL, NOT DEMOLITION BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL FOR THIS MEETING SHOWING ANY STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS OR PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING THEIR INTENTIONS.

WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT, IF ANYTHING IS WRONG WITH THE EXISTING HOME.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SEPARATE BUT ASSOCIATED GARAGE ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT LISTING AS CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.

AS SUCH, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD NEED SEPARATE APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION PERMIT.

I REQUEST THAT YOU DENY A DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THIS HOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

I DUNNO IF I'VE GOT MY CADENCE DOWN, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? NO.

OKAY.

JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER ALL THE THINGS THAT BEN SAYS.

UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? NOPE.

DO I OR DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER COOK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE CASE TO SO WE CAN OPEN UP DISCUSSION? I'LL MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONE THE CASE TO OUR JUNE MEETING.

SECOND, UH, MOTION TO POSTPONE FROM COMMISSIONER COOK AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER RUBIO.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? COMMISSIONER COOK? YES, I, UH, THIS IS WITH THE INTENT OF STARTING A SIX MONTH DEMOLITION DELAY.

THIS IS REALLY DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE IN I'M PREPARING KIND OF A LIST OF GOOD, UH, EXAMPLES OF ADDITIONS, SENSITIVE ADDITIONS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS WHERE YOU CAN RETAIN CHARACTER AND ADD PLENTY OF ROOM.

THIS WAS ONE OF THEM.

SO I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THAT IT CHANGED FROM A REALLY NICE ADDITION SENSITIVE ADDITION DESIGN THAT YOU USED THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE AND FOLLOWED EVERY ONE OF OUR STANDARDS TO A TOTAL DEMOLITION.

UM, I WAS GONNA COMPARE THIS TO ANOTHER CASE WITH A VERY SIMILAR HOUSE OF SIMILAR SIZE, UM, THAT WAS BEING TORN DOWN TO CREATE A HOUSE OF THE SAME SIZE WITH NO CHARACTER.

AND, UM, NOW THEY'RE BOTH DEMOLITION.

SO YEAH, IT WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTING.

UM, THE, THE CASE PRESENTED TO US IN APRIL IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS HOUSE COULD BE REUSED, UH, TO, TO FULL, FULL USE.

AND, UM, YEAH, IT'S A SHAME.

COMMISSIONER RUBIO? UM, NO, JUST THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED THERE MIGHT BE SOME MORE RESEARCH THAT WE'RE MISSING.

UM, SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER RESEARCH THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN PROVIDE FROM TRAVIS HEIGHTS, UM, YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES

[00:50:01]

A LONG WAY.

SO, UM, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROPERTY COMMISSIONER COOK BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS.

DO I UNDERSTAND? DID, DID WE SEE THIS ONE LAST TIME OR, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN OUR APRIL, UH, WHEN IS THIS PULLED UP? WOW.

THE, UH, JANUARY MEETING, UH, WE HAD, AH, WE PASSED.

WELL THAT MIGHT NULLIFY MY COMMENTS, BUT I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, UM, THIS WOULD'VE BEEN A CANDIDATE THAT I COULD HAVE MADE ALL MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE HOME INITIATIVE HERE INSTEAD OF AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING.

UM, AND THAT I, I SUPPORT THE MOTION TO POSTPONE BECAUSE WITHOUT ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TO IT, I'M NOT SURE IF THE OWNER IS AWARE THAT THERE IS A PRESERVATION INCENTIVE.

AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT ALSO IF WE CAN KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE WE WILL CLEAN UP, UM, THE MECHANICS OF THAT INCENTIVE AND MAKE IT MORE OF AN INCENTIVE.

UH, SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AND WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL CALL A VOTE, UM, TO, TO RESTATE THE MOTION TO, TO POSTPONE TO OUR JUNE MEETING REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING POSTPONE TO OUR JUNE MEETING.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AND THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COMMISSIONER DUDLEY OFF THE DAIS.

THERE'S NOBODY TO OPPOSED.

OKAY.

UM, OUR NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM IS

[17. PR-2024-025110 – 3205 Tom Green St.]

17 32 0 5 TOM GREEN STREET.

ITEM 17 AT 32 0 5.

TOM GREEN STREET IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1937 DUPLEX WITH A DETACHED GARAGE.

THIS IS A TWO STORY SQUARE PLAN DUPLEX WITH HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING.

A SCREENED OR SCREENED ONE OVER ONE AND SIX OVER SIX WOOD WINDOWS AND HIPPED ROOF.

THE DUPLEX AT TOM GREEN WAS BUILT AS A RESI, A RENTAL PROPERTY IN 1937.

ITS PROXIMITY TO THE UNIVERSITY AND TO STATE OFFICES MADE IT AN ATTRACTIVE HOME FOR STUDENTS, STATE OFFICIALS AND BOOKKEEPERS.

SEVERAL INSURANCE INDUSTRY EMPLOYEES ALSO LIVED IN THE HOME.

MOST TENANTS WERE SHORT TERM AND MOST WERE EITHER SINGLE OR LIVED ONLY WITH ONE OTHER PERSON OR THEIR SPOUSE.

THIS TYPE OF BUILDING WAS TYPICAL.

IN AUSTIN'S EARLY YEARS.

AS NEW AND PART-TIME RESIDENTS MOVED INTO THE AREA AND SOUGHT SMALLER APARTMENTS AND DUPLEXES TO GET STARTED IN THE CITY.

THE NORTH CENTRAL AUSTIN SURVEY LISTS THE PROPERTY AS CONTRIBUTING TO A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

PROPERTIES MUST MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINE THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION.

THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF RELEASING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT? THAT'D BE THE APPLICANT.

YEAH.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS DAVID WHITWORTH AND, UM, I'M BACK FROM LAST MONTH.

I MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AT YOUR REQUEST, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, NOBODY THAT WAS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING, UM, SUBSEQUENTLY SENT IN AN OBJECTION OTHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL THAT, UM, REQUEST POSTPONEMENT LAST MONTH.

UM, A COUPLE AT THE MEETING LIVE IN A LANDMARK.

UH, THE, THE AREA HAS 11 LANDMARKS.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY HISTORIC DISTRICTS, ALDRIDGE PLACE AND HYDE PARK.

THERE ARE MANY, UH, THERE ARE MANY, UH, HOMES THAT ARE PROTECTED BY HISTORIC ZONING IN THE AREA.

AND I LOVE THIS AREA.

I THINK IT'S MAGICAL.

I REALLY HOPE WHAT WE PLAN TO DO, UH, BRINGS SOME SOMETHING VALUABLE AND SOMETHING OF INTEREST TO THE AREA.

WE'LL BE REPLACING THE TWO UNITS WITH THREE UNITS.

UH, AND, UH, I REALLY BELIEVE IN THAT.

AND WHILE I DO APPRECIATE THIS STRUCTURE AND WE HOPE TO MOVE IT, AND I THINK WE CAN TO SAVE IT, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS, THIS SITE IS APPROPRIATE NEAR CAMPUS IN A WALKABLE, UH, CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AMENITIES FOR

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WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND.

I DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERN, CHANGE BEING SURPRISED BY SOMETHING IN THE MAIL.

I MET WITH PEOPLE, I SPOKE WITH THEM AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER AND THE WORK DONE BY THE COMMISSION.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP DURING THIS AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? AND IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED TO THE DEMOLITION? GOOD EVENING.

UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MARY INGLE AND I LIVE IN THE NORTH UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS THE OLDEST SUBDIVISION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THE STAFF REPORT SAYS THAT THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, THE 20TH CENTURY DUPLEX AND THE BUILDING APPEARS TO RETAIN HIGH INTEGRITY.

IT'S WELL KEPT IN ITS SPORTS.

TWO STORIES.

MOST OF ALL OF THE REMAINING DUPLEXES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE SINGLE STORIES WITH DOUBLE ENTRANCE IN THE FRONT.

AND THAT'S ONE PHOTO.

OH, THAT'S THE NEXT ONE, .

THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S THE TYPICAL DUPLEX.

THIS ONE HAS TWO STORIES.

IT'S VERY DIFFERENT.

IT'S FANCY THE HOUSE AT, UH, 32 0 5.

TOM GREEN IS UNIQUELY PLACED ON A LOT, RELATIVELY CENTERED ON A SINGLE LOT, WHICH WOULD INDICATE THAT IT'S NOT A SECONDARY STRUCTURE LIKE THE FOUR OR THE THREE OTHER HIP ROOF DUPLEXES, EX EXTANT IN THE GROOM'S ADDITION.

THIS PLACEMENT OF THE DUPLEX ON THE LOT IS UNUSUAL.

IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE SETBACKS TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

UM, NOT ONLY DOES THE BUILDING HAVE RELATIVELY HIGH STYLE, BUT THE FRONT DOOR I NEED THE NEXT PHOTO IS FRAMED WITH DECORATIVE MOLDINGS AND A STYLIZED FLATTENED RENDITION OF COLUMNS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THEM OUTLINED ON THE MOLDING THAT SURROUNDS THE DOOR.

UM, THIS IS HIGHLY STYLIZED FOR, FOR A DUPLEX FROM THE DEPRESS THE DEPRESSION ERA.

AND IT'S NOT USUAL.

IT'S A CLASSY STRUCTURE AND IT HAS STREET PRESENCE AFTER SOME REFLECTION ABOUT THE HISTORY, THE PLACEMENT OF THE HOUSE ON ITS LOT, AND IT'S BEING BUILT DURING A DIFFICULT FINANCIAL TIME IN OUR HISTORY.

OUR AUSTIN HISTORY, THE DEPRESSION.

I THINK THAT THIS RENTAL DUPLEX HOME MAY MERIT A SECOND LOOK FOR LANDMARK STATUS.

IT'S NOT ONLY A ONE OF A KIND, UH, BECAUSE OF ITS CAREFUL PLACEMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S A STRUCTURE THAT REPRESENTS THE DEPRESSION AND THAT'S PART OF AUSTIN'S HISTORY.

NOT MANY OF THESE STRUCTURES ARE LEFT IN THE GROOM'S EDITION BECAUSE OF DEMOLITIONS.

I DID AN INFORMAL COUNT SINCE WE LAST SAW EACH OTHER.

AND THERE ARE FOUR ELIGIBLE DUPLEXES WITH THE SAME ROOF LINE.

HOWEVER, ONLY TWO WERE BUILT DURING THE DEPRESSION.

UM, AND AS I SAID BEFORE, TOM GREEN, UH, THE DUPLEX AT TOM GREEN IS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT AS A PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON A SINGLE LOT.

KEEPING THE STRUCTURE WOULD RETAIN MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR REPURPOSING THE STRUCTURE RATHER THAN ALLOWING A FULL-BLOWN, UH, DEMOLITION REPURPOSING IS MORE, AS YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

AND IT'S THE GREENEST ARCHITECTURE THERE IS.

THIS HOUSE HAS ENOUGH ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY AND CONTRIBUTING HISTORICAL CONTEXT TO BE SAVED AND REPURPOSED INTO A THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? AND MR. WHITWORTH? I THINK YOU'RE OWED A REBUTTAL IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE IT.

NO.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS OPPOSED? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED.

A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER COOK, OR A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER COOK A SECOND.

FROM COMMISSIONER ROCHE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE.

UNANIMOUS AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? I'LL MOVE TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PER PACKAGE, DEMOLITION PERMIT PENDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? IS A MOTION

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FROM COMMISSIONER COOK TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE? AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

COMMISSIONER COOK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE UNPLEASANT THINGS WE HAVE TO DO.

UM, LARGELY I AM MAKING THIS MOTION BECAUSE IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED, UH, IN THE SURVEY.

UM, I AM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE DRAFT PRESERVATION PLAN IS BEING PROACTIVE AND BEING PROACTIVE WITH SURVEYS AND USING SURVEYS TO IDENTIFY WHAT REALLY IS MOST IMPORTANT SO THAT BUYERS, SELLERS, ADVOCATES, EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S KIND OF PRE PREDETERMINED IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE SURVEY WANTS TO BE CHALLENGED, THAT COULD BE A SEPARATE PROCESS.

BUT IT'D BE BEST FOR US TO DE DEFINE NOW WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO SAY.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE CASE UP HERE OUT OF CONTEXT.

YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT TO BE DEFEATIST AND I ESPECIALLY DON'T WANT TO DEFEAT, UH, ADVOCATES.

BUT I'M, AFTER SEVEN YEARS ON THIS COMMISSION, I'VE BECOME A REALIST AND KNOW THAT OUR POLICIES ARE WRITTEN SUCH THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE SEE ARE, ARE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED.

UH, AND THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS BE PROACTIVE WITH OUR SURVEYS ABOUT THE ONES WE WANNA SAVE.

IN THIS CASE, IT WASN'T ON THE SURVEY TO PROTECT.

UM, I DO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE, THE SHOW OF ADVOCACY HERE AND THE RESEARCH, BUT YOU KNOW, IN, AND, AND I LISTEN TO EVERY WORD, BUT YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE INPUT IN THE RESEARCH, THERE ARE TWO SIMILAR DUPLEXES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT DURING THE DEPRESSION THAT ARE NOTED AS ELIGIBLE.

THOSE ARE THE ONES WE SHOULD FOCUS OUR ENERGY ON.

NOT, NOT THIS ONE.

IF, IF THEY DO COME UP, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

MR. LAROCHE, THAT WAS SUBSTANTIAL COMMENTARY.

SO I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ADD TO THAT .

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. WHITWORTH.

IF THERE'S, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE SIGHTING OF THIS IS IN THE, THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT, SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD A UNIT AND, AND UM, USE SOME SORT OF HOME PRESERVATION BONUS.

UH, ALSO I WONDER IF YOU'VE HAVE, I DON'T WANT TO PIN THIS ON YOU IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DIG INTO IT, BUT, UM, AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED WHEN YOU'RE THERE WITH A, ASSUMING THIS MOTION PASSES AN EMPTY LOT, IF THERE'S WAYS TO ADD ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE.

I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA LOSE TWO EXISTING UNITS.

I ASSUME THE THREE NEW WOULD NOT BE AS RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE AS THE TWO EXISTING.

BUT I WONDER IF YOU'VE LOOKED INTO THOSE ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS JUST RECENTLY GIVEN US.

I LOOKED AT THE, I DEFINITELY LOOKED AT THE PRESERVATION BONUS.

UM, THERE IS POTENTIAL SPACE, BUT IT GETS TOO TIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO A FIRST STORY AND SECOND STORY TOP BOTTOM DUPLEX THAT PUSHES THIS SITE INTO AN INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE REVIEW, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL, WHICH WILL REQUIRE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND EXTENSIVE.

AND I, HAVING DONE THIS FOR 20 YEARS, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE SKILLS TO DO A SITE THAT HAS BOTH INTERNATIONAL BUILDING, UH, CODE AND INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE BONUS, MATH IS NOT, DID NOT WORK OUT.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GET FIXED.

THE, I HAVE LOOKED AT AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED BEFORE.

I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WORKS FOR, FOR SALE PRODUCT.

IT'S EASIER TO REACH THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS IN FOR RENT PRODUCTS.

AND AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE SOUNDS OF BOTH OF THOSE, UH, PROGRAMS, I FEEL LIKE I WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THREE UNITS TO MARKET.

THEY'RE GONNA BE 1450 SQUARE FOOT CLOSE TO THE CITY, ALL UNDER THE SAME CODE.

SO YES, I HAVE CONSIDERED THOSE OTHER OPTIONS IN THE PAST AND ON THIS PROJECT, BUT I WOULD PREFER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THREE NEW, UH, PRODUCTS UNDER HOME ONE.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD WAS, UM, JUST GONNA TRY AND BRING UP AS MANY ESOTERIC CODE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS.

UH, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE A TOP DOWN OR TOP BOTTOM DUPLEX.

I ASSUME