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UM,

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LET'S SEE.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, DO YOU WANNA COME ONLINE? SERGEANT IS UP HERE.

OKAY.

UM, HAVING A QUORUM PRESENT, I NOW CALL THIS

[ Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]

MEETING THE PLANNING COMMISSION ORDER AT 6:12 PM FIRST OFF, WE WILL TAKE ROLL CALL.

UM, SO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.

WE'LL GO IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER LIKE YOU SEE IN THE AGENDA.

COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HERE.

VICE CHAIR AZAR.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER BARRE RAMIREZ.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER COX.

NOT ONLINE YET.

COMMISSIONER HAYNES HERE.

CHAIR HEMPEL, MYSELF PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER HOWARD IS ABSENT THIS EVENING.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS ABSENT THIS EVENING.

COMMISSIONER MAXWELL HERE.

COMMISSIONER MOTALA IS ABSENT THIS EVENING.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, I I SEE YOU GIVEN A THUMBS UP.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE HERE AND COMMISSIONER WOODS IS ABSENT THIS EVENING AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE CHAIR COHEN HERE WITH US AS AN EX OFFICIO.

OOH.

YAY.

ALL RIGHT HERE, .

ALL RIGHT.

PER USUAL, TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE HYBRID , UM, ALLOWING FOR A VIRTUAL QUORUM AS LONG AS THE COMMISSIONER SERVING AS CHAIR IS PRESENT IN CHAMBERS.

SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS HERE IN CHAMBERS AND ONE IN ATTENDANCE VIRTUALLY.

UM, SIMILARLY, SPEAKERS CAN PRESENT FROM THE CHAMBERS OR PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.

SO COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ONLINE, PLEASE REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR SIGN IN SHEET TO OUR STAFF LIAISON AND HAVE YOUR GREEN, RED, AND YELLOW ITEMS FOR VOTING.

AND IF I DON'T HAPPEN TO SEE YOU, JUST COME OFFLINE OR OFF MUTE AND LET ME KNOW, UM, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.

ALL RIGHTY.

UM, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION]

MR. RIVERA, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMUNICATION CHAIR? WE DO.

UM, WE HAVE MS. TIFFANY WASHINGTON, MS. WASHINGTON.

IF YOU COULD, UM, SELECT STAR SIX AND THEN PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HELLO, MY NAME IS TIFFANY WASHINGTON.

I'M THE ONLY BLACK FEMALE FARMER IN DISTRICT ONE AT THE CORNER OF MAINOR ROAD IN ROCKY LANE ON BUS LINE 20.

I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS PLANNING COMMISSION'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEROGATORY NEIGHBORHOODS CONCEPT, ESPECIALLY WHILE PLANNING OUT THE CITY MY FAMILY WAS ENSLAVED IN.

NOT ONLY WAS MY FAMILY ENSLAVED HERE, MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY WERE PROMINENT CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT, PUBLISHED ABOUT, AND WHO ARE NATIONALLY KNOWN.

I WOULD LIKE FOR MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN, AND MY GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN TO HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGE THAT EVERY ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS BEFORE ME WORKED SO HARD FOR THE RIGHT TO BE HERE.

I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE CODES AND LAND USE LAWS.

I DO KNOW THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INVISIBLE PARTICIPANTS IN PLANNING.

WE HAVE BEEN UNWILLING PARTICIPANTS.

WE HAVE BEEN UNKNOWING AND UNINFORMED PARTICIPANTS AND DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE WITHOUT OUR INPUT.

AND I'M HERE TO CHANGE THAT.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE OPPORTUNITIES THAT I MEET THE CRITERIA FOR, AND I REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DEROGATORY AGRI HOODING OF AUSTIN.

WHATEVER OPPORTUNITIES THE CITY HAS AVAILABLE FOR ME AS A TRAINED GRADUATE OF FARM SHARE AUSTIN, WHICH THE CITY SUPPORTS FUNDS AND HAS ALLOWED TO LEAD THIS, THOSE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES I WANT.

WE CAN ALL MAKE AUSTIN A BETTER PLACE BY REVAMPING AND REFOCUSING ON WHAT FRESH FOOD AREAS ARE NEEDED AND WHAT SPACES ARE AVAILABLE.

I AM TRAINED BY FARM SHARE, SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR YOU NOT TO TRUST MY ABILITY OR CAPACITY.

I'M LETTING Y'ALL KNOW THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT SHOULD BE MINE.

FIRST, I SHOULD NOT BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT OR TO THE AFTERMATH OF SLAVERY.

IF I HAVE TO PAY MY MORTGAGE, THEN THE CITY HAS TO PAY FOR THE LAND I'M GONNA FARM ON, AND THE WATER I'M GOING TO USE TO OFFSET THE COST OF BLACK FARMER TO DESERVE MY GENERATIONAL, WHO DESERVE MY GENERATIONAL RIGHT TO STAY HERE.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S LAND JUST SITTING IN THE CITY LIMITS, WHETHER IT BE HALF AN ACRE, TWO ACRES, WHATEVER, THE EXPANSION OF 35, THAT GREEN SPACE THERE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS BORN TO DO, CULTIVATE THIS LAND TO HONOR MY ANCESTORS.

SO SINCE I'M NOT ABLE TO FARM ON THE CORNER OF MANNAR, SINCE MY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS NEGLECTED THE FACT THAT I'M THE ONLY BLACK FARMER IN HER DISTRICT, AND SINCE FARMING HEALTH BENEFIT VETERANS WITH PTSD SUCH AS MYSELF, THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE ENDLESS.

AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW TO DO SOMETHING, PLAN SOMETHING CENTRALIZED AND WALKABLE, NOT HYDROPONIC, BUT SOMETHING GREEN FROM THE SOIL.

UM, AND I WOULD, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THIS PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THE OTHER COMMISSION SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF FARMING IN SMALL SPACES.

I THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MS. WASHINGTON.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS

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FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, LET'S SEE.

MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETINGS OF APRIL 23RD AND THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON APRIL 30TH.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EDITS TO THOSE MINUTES? OKAY, HEARING NONE.

UM, THE MEETINGS, THE MINUTES WILL BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED.

I WANTED TO, UM, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE COMMISSIONER COX IS ONLINE AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS,

[Consent Agenda]

OUR FIRST ACTIVITY TODAY IS TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEMS THAT ARE CONSENT APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL, POSTPONEMENTS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, OR NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. COMMISSIONERS ZA WILL READ THE PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE CONSENT, POSTPONEMENT AND NON-DISCUSSION AND COMMISSIONERS.

YOU'LL ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST ITEM CONSENT ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

VICE CHAIR.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, SO I'M GONNA BE GOING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THIS IS I NUMBER TWO, PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2023 DASH 0 2 0 1 CHRISTCHURCH PLANNING DISTRICT THREE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 11TH.

I NUMBER THREE, PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 1 9 0 1 AL STREET RESIDENCES, DISTRICT NINE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH.

I NUMBER FOUR IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 3 5 AL STREET RESIDENCES, DISTRICT NINE.

THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH.

I'M NUMBER FIVE.

UM, THIS IS A PLAN AMENDMENT AND PA DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 2 OH.

UH, TWO 0.01 INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD, ONTARIO LANE, DISTRICT NINE, DISTRICT THREE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

OH, SORRY, I'M REALLY GETTING THIS WRONG.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2022 DASH 0 0 2 0 0.01 INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD, ONTARIO LANE, DISTRICT THREE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT, THE ASSOCIATED REZONING NUMBER SIX.

UM, THIS IS C 14 DASH 2022 DASH 0 6 2 INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD, ONTARIO LANE, DISTRICT THREE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

I'M NUMBER SEVEN NPA DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 2 3 0 3 SH 6 3 0 4 MAINER ROAD DISTRICT FOUR.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, REZONING C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 26.

PEYTON JANE APARTMENTS DISTRICT FOUR.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER NINE, REZONING C 14 DASH 2 24 DASH 0 0 3 8 2001, 2003 2005 IN 2007 SOUTH LAMAR DB 90 REZONING DISTRICT NINE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

I NUMBER 10 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 2 2 2700 DELTO ROAD, UM, DISTRICT FIVE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT POSTPONED BY JUNE 11TH.

I NUMBER 11 IS A REZONING.

UM, THIS IS C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 5 2 8 21 WOODWARD DISTRICT THREE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

I NUMBER 12 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2022 DASH ZERO SIXTEEN TWO TEN SIX ZERO ONE NORTH LAMAR BOULEVARD, DISTRICT FOUR.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT I NUMBER 13 C EIGHT 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 2 7 311, AND THREE 15 SOUTH CONGRESS.

BUT DISTRICT NINE, UH, THIS ITEM IS UP FOR, UH, CONSENT NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH.

I'M NUMBER 14 OF REZONING, UH, C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 5 9 18 0 9 WEST 35TH STREET, DISTRICT 10.

THIS ITEM IS OF FIRST STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH, I NUMBER 15 C 14 DASH.

THIS IS REZONING C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 5 5 EAST 51ST STREET IN CAMERON ROAD.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

I NUMBER 16 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 4 3 UNIVERSITY PARK SOUTH.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH.

I NUMBER 17 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 4 4 UNIVERSITY PARK NORTH.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

I NUMBER 18 IS A HISTORIC ZONING, A C 14 H DASH 20 20 24 DASH 0 0 1 FASHION AT BEAUTY SHOP MCDONALD JACKSON HOUSE DISTRICT ONE.

THE ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER 19 IS HISTORIC ZONING, C 14 H DASH 2024 DASH 0 0 1 16 RUSSELL AND JEAN LEE HOUSE DISTRICT NINE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 20 IS A RIGHT OF WAY ALLEY VACATION 2022 DASH 15 0 5 4 7 LM 2000 UNIVERSITY DISTRICT NINE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

UM, ITEM NUMBER 21 IS ALSO RIGHT OF WAY ALLEY VACATION 2022 DASH 16 34 60 LM UH, 2015 WHITE IS DISTRICT NINE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 22 IS AN LDC AMENDMENT C 20 DASH 2022 DASH ZERO FIVE D, UH, COLORADO PROTECTION.

THIS ITEM WAS POSTED IN ERROR, SO THERE IS NO ACTION TONIGHT.

I NUMBER 23 IS, UH, RELATED TO IMAGINE AUSTIN.

THIS IS THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION, FY 24 25 CIP.

MEMO OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 20, ITEM NUMBER 24 IS THE LDC AMENDMENT C 20 DASH 2022, UH, DASH 0 2 0 B SITE PLAN, LIGHT PHASE TWO

[00:10:01]

AND INFILL LOTS.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 11TH.

AND THAT IS ALL OF OUR, UM, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE OR ABSTAIN FROM ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? QUESTION CHAIR? YES.

COMMISSIONER COX IS I, IS ITEM 13 DISCUSSION OR CONSENT? IT RIGHT NOW IS ON CONSENT NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH.

OKAY.

AND ESSENTIALLY NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 28TH, BUT FOR NOW, IT'S A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT, NOT A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

CAN, CAN WE PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION? I THAT'S ITEM 13 SOUTH CONGRESS P.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.

AND IT JUST HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DIS A DISCUSSION.

POSTPONEMENT.

OKAY.

CHAIR.

YES.

QUICK COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YES.

SO I, I KNOW ITEM 22 IS POSTED IN ERROR, BUT BEFORE THAT WAS KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC, I RECEIVED A LOT OF PHONE CALLS FROM FOLKS THAT WERE REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT THAT.

AND AS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, LAST TIME IT LOOKED TO IT, IT WAS, IT FELT VERY ILL CONCEIVED LAST TIME WE SAW IT.

SO I HOPE THAT WHEN, AND IF THIS DOES COME BACK, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LEGWORK THAT HAPPENS BEFORE IT COMES TO US.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

ALRIGHT.

UM, MAD CHAIR.

MAYOR RAMIREZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.

UM, I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ITEM NUMBER SIX.

SO I DON'T WANNA PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANNA ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS'S THE RIGHT TIME TO THAT.

YES, GO AHEAD COLEMAN FOR THE APPLICANT.

HI, MR. COLEMAN.

SO MY QUESTION REALLY, AND I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM FOLKS ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD.

CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING CONTACT TEAM AND YOUR EFFORTS TO MEET THEIR NEEDS? YOU SHOULD.

UM, SO WE HAD ORIGINALLY SPOKEN ABOUT DOING SOME FORM OF STRATEGIC AFFORDABLE RETAIL, AND THERE JUST ISN'T ANY PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT TOGETHER.

SO WE'RE BACK ON THE HOUSING CONVERSATION THAT, WHICH MAKES IT PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

TWO ITEMS THERE, WE'VE AGREED TO.

WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH SMART HOUSING AT THIS TIME, GONNA OFFER US UP INTO HAPPILY IN THE SMART HOUSING PROGRAM, UM, AT 10% AFFORDABILITY.

AND OUR, THAT WILL BE OUR, THAT WILL BE OUR PERCENTAGE NUMBER, AND THEN THE INTERNAL NUMBER FROM THERE, WE'RE STARTING A CONVERSATION AT 60% MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME.

AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT MIGHT CHANGE, THAT INTERNAL MIX MIGHT CHANGE AT COUNCIL.

WE'RE VERY FIRM ON THE 10, BUT THE, THE 60 COULD DILATE OR THAT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING.

UM, AND I'M WORKING PRETTY CLOSELY WITH MARIO NEW WRINKLE.

UM, WE'RE ALSO TALKING TO, WE'RE ALSO TALKING TO, UM, UH, CAPITAL A AND, UH, I HAVE A MEETING WITH SET WITH HIM AND AN APPOINTMENT SET WITH HIM FRIDAY, FRIDAY NEXT.

THAT COULD TAKE THINGS IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT IT WILL RESULT IN, BY THIRD READING, WE WILL HAVE A, A BINDING INSTRUMENT OF SOME KIND IN PLACE.

AND I CAN CIRCULATE THAT TO YOU WHEN THE TIME COMES, IF, IF YOU NEED, NEED THAT.

THANK YOU.

.

YES, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

JUST ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION.

CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT NEGOTIATIONS YOU'VE ALL HAD AROUND THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD, AROUND THE AFFORDABILITY? WHAT PERIOD, HOW LONG WILL THE AFFORDABILITY POTENTIALLY LAST? OH, YES.

I WOULD CONSIDER THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH SMART HOUSING AND IT ONLY GOES TO FIVE YEARS.

THERE IS A STATUTE BUBBLING UP, SUPPOSED TO BE ON STAFF'S DESK AND HEADED BACK THIS WAY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS THE SMART HOUSING WHEN Y'ALL PASSED IT.

Y'ALL PASSED IT LIKE IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

WONDERING WHERE THAT IS AND THAT MIGHT SOLVE THAT PROBLEM FOR US.

THE SMART HOUSING PROGRAM ONLY GOES TO FIVE YEARS.

WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE, AS A PART OF OUR NEGOTIATION THAT'S JUST INADEQUATE.

WE WOULD, WE WOULD DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IN A MULTI-FAMILY, FAMILY LIKE THIS IS EASILY 20 IN, IN APPROXIMATELY THREE DECADES.

SO THAT WOULD BE SPELLED OUT IN ANY BINDING INSTRUMENT THAT WE, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH.

SURE.

THANK YOU MR. GOLDMAN.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE WISH TO KEEP THAT ON CONSENT OR POLL? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER HANDS, ARE YOU, ARE YOU DONE? I WANT THAT OUT.

UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'VE GOT, UH, I DO NOT WANT TO PULL ANYTHING OFF THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, IN WORKING WITH STAFF, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, ON ITEMS 9 11, 12, 15, AND 17.

THESE ARE ALL VMU TO DB NINETIES CASES.

BA THAT'S, BUT MY BASIC SUMMATION OF THEM, THEM, UH, THAT CONTAIN PROHIBITED USES OF, UH, THE TWO OF THAT THAT ARE OF CONCERN TO ME ARE AUTOMOTIVE, UH, REPAIR AND AUTOMOTIVE

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WASHING.

THIS COMMISSION HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED ITS WILL.

NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT SURVIVES COUNSEL, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S STILL AN OPEN QUESTION AND WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT ON THURSDAY LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

BUT, UH, I WOULD, I WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THOSE TWO ITEMS OFF OF THE, UH, PROHIBITED LIST AND THEN LEAVE THOSE AS, AS, UM, AS, AS USES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR, UH, THESE SITES.

MY JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING THAT IS MOST, UM, PREDOMINANTLY, ESPECIALLY IN THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, UH, INDUSTRY, UH, MOST OF THOSE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES.

UH, MANY OF THEM ARE MINORITY OWNED, UH, AND, UM, UH, OR ARE FRANCHISED, UH, HERE IN AUSTIN.

AND, AND EVEN IF THE, THE PROJECT CONNECT AND THE, AND, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS IN TRANSPORTATION ARE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL, UH, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE CARS AND THOSE CARS NEED TO BE REPAIRED.

AND SO I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PROHIBIT THOSE USES.

OKAY.

WE'LL LOOK FOR A SECOND ON COMMISSIONER HAYNES'S MOTION.

SEE, COMMISSIONER COX IS YOUR SECOND.

ALRIGHT, LET'S, UM, Q AND A, OR SINCE THIS IS ON THE CONSENT TO GO AHEAD, MR. RIVERA CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LA ANN VERSO, UM, IT'S UP TO THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION, HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.

UM, IF, UH, COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL THE ITEM THAT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW, OR IF YOU WANNA KEEP IT ON THE CONSENT, UH, AGENDA AND, UM, UM, JUST, UM, VOTE, UM, WHILE KEEPING IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IF, UH, YOU CAN DO SO AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER HANS, CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT NUMBERS THOUGH THIS PERTAINS TO AGAIN? YES, MA'AM.

UH, 9 11, 12, 15, AND 17.

AND MY AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO REMOVE, UH, AUTOMOTIVE WASHING OF ANY KIND AND AUTO REPAIR.

ACTUALLY, I THINK IT SAYS AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, UH, FROM THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OR THE, UH, PROHIBITED USE ON THE COS.

THERE'S NOTING NUMBER 16 IS ALSO A DB 90 CASE AS WELL'S POSTPONED IT.

OKAY.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE FIVE THAT ARE NOT.

SORRY, THAT ARE, YOU'RE CORRECT.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND IF I, UH, HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, I APPRECIATE YOU CATCH 'EM.

COMMISSIONER, HES YOU'RE SAYING AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS, AUTOMOTIVE OR BEER AND AUTOMOTIVE WASH WASHING OF ANY TIME.

OKAY.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THIS? QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

HEY, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, IN ALL OF AUSTIN, ROUGHLY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF AUSTIN LAND IS ZONED WITH A V OR DB 90 AS THESE CASES LOOK TO ZONE PROPERTIES TOO? BALLPARK IS FINE.

ARE WE TALKING 5% OF AUSTIN, 10% OF AUSTIN, 0.1% OF AUSTIN? A VERY BALLPARK WOULD BE FINE.

I UNDERSTAND JOY HARDEN OF PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THAT CALCULATION RIGHT NOW, BUT WE COULD GET THAT FOR YOU.

OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? MISS HARDEN? YOU KNOW THE CITY BETTER THAN ANYONE YOU WOULD ASK ME THAT I, I DON'T WANNA GUESS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THESE ZONING CATEGORIES, WERE THESE DESIGNED FOR AUTOMOTIVE ABUSES OR WAS THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A FORM MORE FOR PEDESTRIAN AND STREET VIABILITY AND ACTIVITY? WELL, THE LATTER, THE PEDESTRIAN STREET VIABILITY AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THE E TODD IS MOVING FORWARD IN THOSE TYPES OF USES.

AND, UH, THE DB 90 IS TO ADD AL HOUSING.

AND I UNDERSTAND, UM, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER HAYNES LAID OUT ABOUT MINORITY BUSINESSES AND THE LIKE, BUT, UM, I THINK YOUR POINT IS, IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO STILL HAVE THE AUTO USES, SO WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE SUITED FOR AUTO USES.

AND AGAIN, UH, DB 90 OR VM U2 TO DB 90 IS REALLY FOR PEDESTRIANS.

AND WE DON'T TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY, UM, LIKE THESE TYPES OF USES MIXED WITH OUR HOUSING.

TYPICALLY THAT'S NOT, SO THESE ITEMS THAT WERE PROHIBITED, I, I ASSUME THAT CAME AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHY THEY'RE PROHIBITED TODAY? UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE THE CASE MANAGER WOULD HAVE TO HELP ME ON THAT, IF THAT WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR EVEN IF THEY APPLICANT, UM, WE'RE NOT ADDING A LOT OF COS UNLESS IT CAME WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

SO IT COULD BE, UM, AN APPLICANT OR A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND AGAIN, IT WOULD JUST BE FOR THE REASONS LAID OUT.

UM, THESE ARE MORE PEDESTRIAN WALKABILITY TYPES OF WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE MORE WALKABILITY INSTEAD OF OUR AUTO DEPENDENT USES.

AND, UM, AND, UM, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF LAND.

I SUPPORT MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, UM, OUR CITY DOES AS WELL.

UM, SO THAT IS A VERY LEGITIMATE, UH, CONCERN THAT WE, WE DEAL WITH.

UM, BUT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE, UM, LAND OUTSIDE OF OUR DB 90 CASES TO ALLOW THOSE USES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UHHUH.

.

THANK YOU.

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SEE, COMMISSIONER COX, YOU HAD A QUESTION? I WAS JUST TRYING TO, TO CLARIFY THIS.

SO, SO THESE ARE ALL OWNER INITIATED REZONINGS, CORRECT? UM, THESE ARE ALL OWNER, UM, NOW I, SOME OF THESE DB 90 CASES MAY BE REDOS FROM THE VM U2, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OWNER INITIATED VM U2 CASES THAT WE ARE REDOING BECAUSE OF THE INVALIDATED ORDINANCES.

BUT NONE OF THESE ARE STAFF INITIATED? NO.

OKAY.

SO, SO MY UNDERSTANDING AND THE REASON WHY I SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS LARGELY I DON'T WANT TO MAKE EXISTING USES ILLEGAL, PARTICULARLY THOSE TYPE OF, OF USES IF WE CAN HELP IT SINCE THESE ARE OWNER INITIATED REZONINGS AND SOME OF THEM ARE JUST REPLACEMENTS OF THE WHOLE, UH, VMU STUFF, UM, OR, OR DENSITY BONUS, UH, THINGS THAT GOT KNOCKED DOWN THE COURT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THE IMPACT OF THIS AMENDMENT MAY NOT BE SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THESE ARE OWNER INITIATED REZONING.

SO OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, OF OUR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

I, I, I STILL SUPPORT THIS, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF CAR WASHES AND STUFF ON THESE PROPERTIES IS PROBABLY UNFOUNDED.

UM, UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE THESE ARE OWNER INITIATED, UH, REZONING REQUESTS.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? CAN I JUST MAKE SURE, UM, I THINK I HELPED, UH, GIVE COMMISSIONER HAYNES THESE NUMBERS, BUT I JUST WANNA CORRECT, MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE STATED CORRECTLY.

UH, HIS MOTION WOULD BE TO ITEM NUMBER 9 11 12.

OH, THAT'S OKAY.

SO 9 11 15 AND 17 AND 12, NOT 12.

THAT WAS THE, THAT'S INCORRECT.

UM, WHY NOT, NOT 12 9 11.

SO THAT IS CORRECT.

12 IS NOT A DB 90 CASE.

IT'S A-C-S-B-C-O-N-B.

YES.

SO ITEM NUMBER 9, 11, 15, AND 17.

THANKS FOR THE CATCH.

MM-HMM.

NINE.

YES.

CHAIR 9, 11, 15, AND 17, 9, 11, 15, AND 17.

ALL RIGHT.

OTHER COMMENTS? SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS MOTION? ALL RIGHT.

ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, MOTION FOR ITEMS 9, 11, 15 AND 17, TAKE FOUR.

AGAINST, UH, I'M SORRY.

IS THERE ANYONE FOR OR AGAINST THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? WHAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 1, 2, 3.

OKAY.

THOSE AGAINST 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, AND ABSTAINING CHAIRMAN ABSTENTION.

OKAY.

AND I DID SKIP A, A FOR AND AGAINST, UM, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THEIR VOTE.

I'M SORRY, I TOOK THAT OUT OF ORDER.

OKAY.

SO THAT MOTION FAILS.

UM, TWO TO FIVE TO ONE.

OKAY.

UH, WE ARE GOING TO COMMISSIONER COX, UH, JUST BEFORE I FORGET, UM, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE AND SIX'S DISCUSSION, BUT IF THAT'S REMAINS ON CONSENT, I DON'T NEED TO PULL IT.

BUT IF YOU CAN, UH, SHOW ME AS ABSTAINING ON ITEM SIX, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IN THE CONSENT VOTE.

OKAY.

BUT ON FIVE FIVE, IT'S FINE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL NOTE THAT.

UM, CHAIR, YES.

POINT OF ORDER.

WHAT WAS THAT VOTE COUNT TWO TO FIVE TO ONE.

THAT'S, THAT'S SHORT ONE VOTE.

OKAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS, BUT THERE'S 9 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 COMM SORRY.

THREE.

OKAY.

I WAS, SORRY, I, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, YOU WERE VOTING IN FAVOR, CORRECT? YES.

SO THAT WOULD BE 3, 2, 5 TO ONE.

THANK YOU.

VIBRANT COLORS ONLINE PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT CHAIR.

COHEN, THAT WAS THREE TO FIVE TO ONE OTHER RECUSALS ABSTENTIONS PULLING OF ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY, CAN I REPEAT IT AGAIN? YES, CHAIR.

I THINK IF, IF MY, IT MIGHT HELP.

I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN SO FOLKS CAN NOTE BECAUSE I, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE REMOTE TODAY.

SO I NUMBER TWO, PLAN AMENDMENT STAFF, POSTPONEMENT I NUMBER THREE, PLAN AMENDMENT STAFF, POSTPONEMENT I NUMBER FOUR,

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UM, REZONING STAFF, POSTPONEMENT I NUMBER FIVE AND SIX.

PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING BOTH ON CONSENT.

COMMISSIONER COX ABSTAINING ON I NUMBER SIX, I NUMBER SEVEN, PLAN AMENDMENT STAFF POSTPONEMENT I NUMBER EIGHT.

UM, OF DISCUSSION I NUMBER NINE.

UM, CONSENT AS STATED BY STAFF OR STAFF.

RECOMMENDATION, CONSENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION ITEM NUMBER 10, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 11, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 12, UM, REZONING CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 13, THIS IS POLLED FOR A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 14, UM, IS A REZONING STAFF POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 15, CONSENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION ITEM NUMBER 16, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER 17, UH, CONSENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION ITEM NUMBER 18, DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 19, CONSENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION ITEM NUMBER 20, UH, RIGHT OF WAY ALLEY VACATION CONSENT 21 RIGHT OF WAY ALL VACATION CONSENT 22 LDC AMENDMENT POSTED IN ERROR, NO ACTION.

23 MATCH.

AUSTIN, THIS IS ON CONSENT.

AND 24 LDC WHEN THIS IS STAFF POSTPONEMENT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I I'M SORRY AGAIN.

SO THE IMAGINE AUSTIN AND I THINK WE HAVE AN ERROR IN SOME OF OUR EMAIL TRAFFIC.

THAT'S WHY I'M GETTING CONFUSED.

SO THE SITE PLAN LIGHT PHASE TWO AND INFO LOTS THAT STAFF POSTPONEMENT AND THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CIP REC MEMO RECOMMENDATIONS IS CONSENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT TO MR. COX.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IN THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST TWO MEETINGS? ALL RIGHT.

SORRY, WHO WAS THE FIRST? I'LL GO.

NO, I'M NOT.

SECOND VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER HAYES.

UM, ALL THE, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, MADAM, MADAM CHAIR? I WAS, I WAS MOTIONING.

UH, CAN YOU SHOW ME ABSTAINING FROM 9 11 15 AND 17? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

YES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? YOU'RE IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER HAYES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR

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OUR FIRST DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT CASE, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO NUMBER EIGHT.

UM, REMINDER THAT WE ARE ONLY SPEAKING TO THE MERITS OF THE POSTPONEMENT AND NOT THE CASE ITSELF.

SO NUMBER 13.

LET'S SEE, WHAT DO WE, THANK YOU CHAIR.

SO WE'LL HEAR FROM, UH, THE REQUESTER OF THE POSTPONEMENT.

THAT WOULD BE, UH, MR. RICHARD SU CHAIR, COMM MEMBERS, THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS RICHARD SU.

UM, I REPRESENT SEVERAL LANDOWNERS IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL DISTRICT AND, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS WELL.

THIS, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE VIEWED AS DEVELOPER ON DEVELOPER VIOLENCE, BUT, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THERE BE WE CAN'T FIND, I'M NOT SAYING WE DIDN'T GET IT, BUT WE CAN'T FIND THAT ANYBODY GOT NOTICE OF TONIGHT'S HEARING? SO WE WERE SCRAMBLING TODAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND HOW IT IMPACTS ADJOINING PROPERTIES AND HOW IT RELATES TO THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN.

SO, UH, TALKED TO THE APPLICANT'S AGENT.

WHILE SHE IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE POSTPONEMENT, SHE SAID SHE WOULDN'T FIGHT IT IF IT WAS FOR TWO WEEKS, AND I DON'T THINK IT AFFECTS HER COUNCIL DATE.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR TWO WEEKS TO SORT THROUGH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS IT AFFECTS BOTH THE DISTRICT AND THE ADJOINING LANDOWNERS.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR. SETTLE.

THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOT HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

MS. AMANDA, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS IS THEIR, UM, FIRST REQUEST TO POSTPONEMENT, SO WE WILL NOT OBJECT TO A POSTPONEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THE DISCUSSION POST.

ALRIGHT, UM, WE'LL GO AROUND TO Q AND A ROUND ROBIN FROM OUR COMMISSIONER'S.

FIRST COMMISSIONER WITH A QUESTION, VICE CHAIR.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, STAFF, CAN WE SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE NOTICE? DO, WAS THERE AN ISSUE TO NOTICE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF, UH, JONATHAN TOMKO, I'M THE CASE MANAGER ON THIS CASE.

UH, NO, THERE IS NOT A NOTICING ISSUE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF.

AND, AND DO WE HAVE AN IDEA ON WHAT, WHAT, WHEN THE NOTICE MIGHT HAVE BEEN MAILED, ARE YOU ABLE TO LET US KNOW IF THAT SURE.

UH, IT WAS MAILED, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, ON THURSDAY, MAY 2ND, I

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HAVE AN EMAIL, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO SHARE, UM, FROM OUR NOTICING DIVISION, SENDING IT TO THE VENDOR THAT SENDS OUT THE NOTICE.

AND I ALSO HAVE THE LIST OF WHO THE, THE NOTICE WAS MAILED OUT TO.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S APPROXIMATELY 92 ADDRESSES, UH, WITHIN THE 500 FEET.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST TO CONFIRM, SIR, THE NOTICE WOULD'VE BEEN SENT TO, UM, ANY PROPERTY OWNERS UTILITY, UM, HOLDERS WITHIN ESSENTIALLY 500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY, OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU, MR. TOMKO.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? UH, YEAH, I GUESS THIS IS FOR STAFF AS WELL.

SO, UM, ARE THERE ANYONE, NEIGHBORS, UH, THIS SOUNDS BUT FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTING THIS POEM WITH POSTPONEMENT TONIGHT? IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS COMING FROM OTHER SORT OF AGENT, UH, BUILDING OWNERS? IS THAT CORRECT? THAT, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SEE, USUALLY WHEN WE ASK, TALK ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT, THERE'S SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY LIVES IN THE DISTRICT WHO'S REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S ONGOING ISSUES, BUT THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE CASE THIS EVENING.

IS THAT CORRECT? SORRY, THAT QUESTION WAS DIRECTED TO MR. TOMKO AS THE, AS THE, I'M NOT SURE IF HE CAN'T HEAR.

OH, I, I APOLOGIZE.

UH, YES.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS A, UH, ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER, UH, REPRESENTING, UH, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, UH, OWNERS THERE.

OKAY.

AND, AND IF THERE WERE SPECIFIC CONCERNS, THOSE FOLKS AS LANDOWNERS CAN ALSO SIGN UP TO BRING THOSE CONCERNS TO US AS A PLANNING COMMISSION AND SPEAK TO 'EM DIRECTLY VERSUS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT, CORRECT? YES.

RIGHT.

AND THEN JUST, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS, UH, ON THIS CASE, UH, AGAINST OR, OR FOR IT? YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE WORKED THE, THIS P HAS BEEN IN PROCESS FOR A LONG TIME AND HAS WORKED THROUGH NUMEROUS ISSUES AND I HAD NOT HEARD ANY COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA, ARGUS OR THE LANDOWNERS ALL THROUGHOUT THIS CASE BEING POSTED.

SO I JUST WAS WANTING TO CHECK THAT THAT WAS CONFIRMED BY YOU AND THE C CORRESPONDENCE YOU'VE RECEIVED? YES.

UH, AND I BELIEVE THIS CASE CAME IN, UH, IN 2022.

SO IT HAS BEEN, UH, AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S ACTUALLY MY OLDEST CASE.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS CHAIR, MR. COX? UM, YEAH, QUESTION.

I GUESS WHAT, WHAT I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR IS, IS THIS, THIS BORDER IS THE STATESMAN HUD SITE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO I GUESS, UM, I GUESS THE CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE, UH, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPER FOR THE STATESMAN PUT IS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT THIS THEIR, THIS PUD AND THEIR PUD ARE KIND OF COEXISTING.

IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? UM, MR. SUTTLE, IF, IF, IF YOU'RE STILL IN THE, IN THE HALL, HE'S COMING UP.

YES.

YES.

COMMISSIONER ONE OF, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT BARTON SPRINGS ROAD SEPARATES US FROM THIS SITE.

AND THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT TALKS ABOUT IF STATESMAN EVER DEDICATES THE ROAD, THEN ACCESS WILL BE TAKEN.

BUT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OF WHETHER ANY RIGHT OF WAY SHOULD COME OFF THIS SITE FOR BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.

AND IT MAY ALL BE FINE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.

OKAY.

YEAH, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE PS ARE QUITE COMPLICATED AND WE SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THE STATE'S BEEN PUD AND APPARENTLY A WHOLE LOT OF TIMES HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THIS.

SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY COEXIST PROPERLY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, WHEN WOULD THIS BE GOING TO COUNSEL? I, UM, AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE A SET CITY COUNCIL DATE.

WE WOULD ANTICIPATE LIKELY SUMMER, SHORTLY AFTER.

SO IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS? ABSOLUTELY.

THERE WOULD BE AMPLE TIME TO HAVE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS, UM, UH, POSTPONEMENT TO, SORRY, UM, CHAIR, I GUESS WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE A MOTION CORRECT IN ORDER TO PROCEED.

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OKAY.

I AM LOOKING FOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

SO COMMISSIONER, UH, COX'S WOULD BE A MOTION TO MAY 28TH, WHICH WAS THE, WHAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, ARE YOU HOLDING UP? YOU'RE THE SECOND.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS SECOND.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT COMMISSIONER COX? I, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NO HARM IN MAKING SURE THAT THESE COMPLICATED PUDS, UM, UH, ARE COEXISTING TOGETHER, UH, AS, AS THEY NEED TO.

UM, IF THERE'S ANY LANGUAGE THAT WE MISSED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I'M SURE, UM, MR. SU AND HIS TEAM WILL, WILL CATCH IT AND STAFF WILL, WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.

UM, IT'S ALSO VERY CUSTOMARY FOR US TO ALLOW A SINGLE REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT.

AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.

UM, I MEAN, THE BIGGEST RESIDENT IN THE AREA IS THE OR THE BIGGEST PROPERTY ON THE AREA IS THE ONE THAT OWNS THE STATESMAN PUT.

SO, UH, I DO THINK IT'S A VALID REQUEST THAT'S COMING FOR THE FIRST TIME, UM, FOR A POSTPONEMENT.

AND I DON'T THINK A TWO WEEK DELAY, UH, SHOULD CAUSE ANY, UH, ANY UNNECESSARY DELAYS IN THE FINAL APPROVAL, UH, AT COUNCIL.

ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? UM, YEAH, I, I'M JUST DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE , AS WITH SO MANY THINGS IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT FEELS LIKE WE TAKE ONE STEP FORWARD AND TWO STEPS BACK.

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PUT, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO THE MERITS OF IT, BUT I'VE BEEN REALLY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THIS PROJECT FINALLY GETTING SOMEPLACE IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD AND POTENTIALLY COMING TO COUNCIL FOR ACTION.

AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, I WOULD NORMALLY BE HAPPY TO OFFER A POSTPONEMENT AS PER COMMISSIONER COX'S COMMENTS REGARDING NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE IS AMPLE TIME TO STILL DISCUSS THESE ISSUES.

THERE WAS NO SUFFICIENT NOTICE GIVEN AND WE KNOW THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE REVIEWED THESE PUDS EXTENSIVELY, SO I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHY WE'RE GETTING THIS VERY, VERY, VERY LAST MINUTE REQUEST TO POSTPONE AN ITEM THAT CLEARLY HAS MERITS AND IS READY TO GO TO COUNCIL.

ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR THE MOTION TO POSTPONE OR AGAINST, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.

THIS WOULD BE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE HONORING THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST TO MAY, UH, YEAH, MAY 28TH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? 1, 2, 3, THOSE AGAINST 2, 3, 4, 5.

AND THOSE ABSTAINING, THAT MOTION FAILS THREE TO FIVE TO ONE.

SO MR. A CAN, DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT NOW MOVES FORWARD ON THE CONSENT COMM? SHE, IT WILL BE HEARD THIS EVENING.

OKAY.

IT'S A DISCUSSION CASE THEN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO I'M CURIOUS, UM, JUST A POINT OF INQUIRY, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY COMMISSIONERS ATTENDING TONIGHT.

UM, IF, IF THESE VOTES END UP IN A SIMILAR PATTERN, HOW IS THIS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD? CHAIR COMMISSIONER LEE ON ANDOVER, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE, I'LL MOVE FORWARD TO COUNSEL AS A, UH, NON-AFFIRMATIVE VOTE BY THE COMMISSION.

UH, JUST NON RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST

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DISCUSSION CASE THIS EVENING.

THIS IS NUMBER EIGHT, THE REZONING C 14 DASH 2024 DASH OH TWO SIX PEYTON GEN APARTMENTS.

UM, MR. MADIS.

HELLO, GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONER SHERRY ATU WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS ITEM C 14 20 24, 2 6 PEYTON JEN APARTMENTS.

IT'S LOCATED AT 1706 PEYTON JEN ROAD.

THE REQUEST IS A REZONING FROM LRCO MP ZONING TO GR MP ZONING.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDS GRMP COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING.

THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION CURRENTLY CONTAINS A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE WITH SURFACE PARKING IN AN UNDEVELOPED AREA ALONG GALE WOOD DRIVE.

THAT IS ZONED L-R-C-O-M-P.

THE LOTS TO THE NORTH AND EAST ARE DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY USES THAT ARE ZONED GR MP AND MF TWO MP RESPECTIVELY TO THE WEST THERE IS A RETAIL CENTER ZONE GR RCO MP.

THE ATTRACTIVE LAND TO THE SOUTH ACROSS GA DRIVE IS DEVELOPED WITH AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR USE AND A RETAIL SALES USE THAT ARE ZONED G RMMP AND CSEO MP.

IN THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO REZONE THIS LOT TO GRMP TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY WITH 194 MULTIFAMILY UNIT PROJECT UNDER THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED PROGRAM.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDS GR RMP

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ZONING AT THIS LOCATION AS THE LOT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AS IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ON A LEVEL THREE ARTERIAL ROADWAY.

THE GR DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY NEEDS.

THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE PATTERNS.

THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF A LEVEL THREE ROADWAY AND A HIGHWAY.

THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GROWTH CONCEPT MAP IDENTIFIES THIS PROPERTY IS BEING LOCATED WITHIN 0.1 MILES OF THE NORTH BURNETT GATEWAY REGIONAL CENTER AND 0.35 MILES OF THE SOUTH ROMBERG FERGUSON LANE ACTIVITY CORRIDOR.

THERE IS TRANSIT SERVICE IN THE AREAS THERE ARE CAPITAL ME METRO BEST ROUTE ALONG EAST ALONG GALE WOOD DRIVE AND TO THE WEST ALONG RESEARCH BOULEVARD AND A BUS STOP THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS SITE ON GALE WOOD DRIVE.

AND I'M HERE TO ENTER, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

WHEN I'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, MR. HENRY GILMORE.

MR. GILMORE, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

MADAM CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.

I'M HENRY GILMORE WITH JACKSON WALKER REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

UM, I HAD A POWERPOINT FOR YOU, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S LOADING UP.

AND SO, UM, IF YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME ON THIS HANDOUT THAT WE PASSED OUT, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, AS STAFF MENTIONED, WE'RE REQUESTING THE REZONE FROM L-R-C-O-N-P TO GRNP TO DEVELOP AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCK MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.

THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE ACTUALLY 192, UH, MULTIFAMILY UNITS, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHICH WILL BE AFFORDABLE AS TYPE ONE UNITS UNDER THE PROGRAM.

UM, IF YOU TURN TO PAGE THREE, THE LOCATION IS IDEAL.

IT'S BORDERED BY GR ZONING ON THREE SIDES AND MF TWO ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IT'S NOT INTERIOR TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD AND FRONTS ON PEYTON GIN WITH EASY ACCESS TO HIGHWAY 180 3.

IT'S WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO WOOLDRIDGE AND PADRON ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BURNETT MIDDLE SCHOOL AND NAVARRO EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S CONVENIENT TO WOOLDRIDGE SCHOOL PARK, THE RON RIGSBY POCKET PARK AND THE WOOTEN NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.

IT'S SERVED BY TWO CAPITAL METRO BUS LINES AND IT'S, UH, CONVENIENT TO SHOPPING ALONG 180 3 AND ACROSS 180 3.

SO IT'S AN IDEAL SITE FOR THE PROJECT.

THE SITE IS CURRENTLY LEASED BY A SMALL CHURCH, WHICH IS ON A TWO YEAR LEASE, WHICH IS EXPIRING.

UH, IF YOU TURN TO SLIDE OR PAGES FOUR THROUGH SIX, YOU CAN SEE RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

UM, IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 192 UNITS SPREAD OVER SIX LEVELS, ONE LEVEL OF STRUCTURED PARKING AT GRADE AND ONE LEVEL BELOW GRADE.

THE HEIGHT WILL BE MODEST, APPROXIMATELY 67 FEET.

THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE NUMEROUS AMENITIES INCLUDING A PLAYGROUND, FITNESS CENTER, POOL, COMMUNITY ROOM, BUSINESS CENTER, ACTIVITY ROOM, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, AND AFTERSCHOOL TUTORING.

UH, IF YOU TURN TO SLIDE FIVE, YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT, UH, VIEWING IT FROM GALE WOOD.

YOU TURN TO SLIDE SIX, YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT WITH AN ADDITIONAL VIEW FROM PEYTON.

JEN, UH, SLIDE SEVEN.

THE PROGRAM IS INTENDED TO HELP ADDRESS THE CITY'S CRITICAL NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY PROVIDING ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND OTHER BONUSES.

IN RETURN FOR THE PROVISION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE WILL BE 27 1 BEDROOM UNITS, 88 2 BEDROOM UNITS, 77 3 BEDROOM UNITS.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT DESCRIBES THE PROGRAM WHICH REQUIRES THAT 20% OF THE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 50%.

MFI, UH, AT LEAST 50% OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, SERVE HOUSEHOLDS WITH INCOMES AT OR BELOW 60% MFI.

IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT 25% OF ALL THE UNITS BE TWO BEDROOMS OR MORE, AND IT REQUIRES THAT AFFORDABILITY BEFORE A 40 YEAR PERIOD.

IF YOU TURN TO SLIDE NINE, THE PROJECTED RENTS ROUGHLY 1137 TO 1373 FOR ONE BEDROOM UNITS 1361 AND 1645 FOR TWO BEDROOM UNITS AND 1566 TO 1894 FOR THREE BEDROOM UNITS.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY INITIAL PRESENTATION.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CHURCH IS HERE TO SPEAK.

WE ALSO HAVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. RAMIREZ.

YOU'LL HAVE FIVE

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MINUTES.

MY NAME IS FELIX RAMIREZ.

I'M PASTOR THAT SMALL CHURCH THAT THE GUY JUST SAID, AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR TWO YEARS, UH, TILL NEXT YEAR IS GONNA FINISH MAY THE FIRST.

SO I'M HERE BECAUSE, UH, WE WANT TO STAY IN THAT AREA.

I UNDERSTAND THAT APARTMENTS ARE NECESSARY, BUT CHURCHES TOO.

THAT AREA IS LIKE AROUND A MILE.

IT'S A COUPLE OF CHURCHES AND WE HAVE MORE THAN 10 APARTMENTS IN COMPLEXES AND SEVERAL HOUSES TOO.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE NEED TO BE IN EQUILIBRIUM.

BUT NECESSITY, HOW NECESSITY AND, AND SPIRIT OF NECESSITY.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TO, TO SAY, TO KEEP THAT, UH, SUNNING IN THE SAME, NOT CHANGING.

SO ANYWAY, SO PROPHETS THAT COME FROM TEAR DOWN A HOUSE OF GOD ARE NOT A BLESSING.

DON'T BE PART OF THAT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

THANK YOU COMMISSION.

UM, THE CHURCH IS ON A TWO YEAR LEASE THAT'S EXPIRING.

IT WILL EXPIRE IN APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.

UM, THAT IS A GIVEN, UM, A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR AWAY.

I SAT WHERE YOU SIT.

I USED TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HAVING YOU CHOOSE BETWEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A CHURCH WOULD MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT'S REALLY NOT THE CHOICE.

THE CHURCH IS ON A LEASE.

IT'S NOT THERE PERMANENTLY.

IT NEVER WAS INTENDED TO BE THERE PERMANENTLY.

IT WILL MOVE EITHER AT THE END OF THE LEASE OR IF THE OWNERS WORK OUT, UH, AN EARLY TERMINATION, UH, PROPOSAL.

THEY WILL LEAVE EARLIER.

UM, THE OTHER GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF SPACES IN AUSTIN FOR THE CHURCH TO MOVE TO.

VIRTUALLY EVERY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE CITY ALLOWS RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT UH, THEY HAVE OPTIONS IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT STRUCTURES.

UM, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MOVE INTO A CHURCH STRUCTURE.

I MYSELF ATTEND A HOME CHURCH, NOT FIVE MINUTES FROM HERE.

AND BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE PASTOR'S HOME, WE MET IN A COMMUNITY ROOM AT A NEARBY APARTMENT COMPLEX.

SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA THAT YOU DO HAVE, YOU DO HAVE VARIOUS OPTIONS WHEN CONSIDERING MOVING.

I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU HEAR ABOUT IT EVERY DAY.

COUNCIL'S BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE 192 AFFORDABLE UNITS IN ONE SWAP.

NOT JUST 10 UNITS, NOT JUST 15 UNITS, 192 UNITS, 77 OF WHICH WILL BE THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH LEND ITSELF TO FAMILIES.

SO I'D ASK YOU TO, UH, SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND, UH, RECOMMEND THIS PROJECT FOR, UH, REZONING AND TO, UH, HELP US BRING AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROJECT TO THIS SITE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU.

CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

VICE CHAIR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS IN FAVOR.

OKAY, LET'S GO TO OUR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.

ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH A QUESTION? COMMISSIONER COX? YEAH.

UH, BEING REMOTE, I DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF, OF THE HANDOUTS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS SITE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IS USED AS AS A CHURCH, BUT ALSO A RECREATION SPACE.

UM, THE PICTURES POSTED ON, ON GOOGLE IS, IS HALF CHURCH, HALF SOCCER FIELD, UM, WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY PLAN, UH, TO INCORPORATE COMMUNITY

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SPACES IN, IN THE PROPOSED, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND WHAT THOSE MIGHT OR, OR COULD LOOK LIKE.

YOU HAVE THE APPLICANTS WALKING UP BEING A PLAYGROUND POOL AND, UM, COMMUNITY ROOM, UM, AFTERSCHOOL TUTORING.

UM, MY GUESS IS THAT WOULD BE FOR THE TENANTS, BUT WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, THE DEVELOPER HERE THAT CAN CONFIRM THAT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

MY NAME'S LOGAN SCHMIDT, UH, WITH ROCHE COMPANIES.

UH, 9 3 9 0 RESEARCH BOULEVARD, SUITE 400.

UM, THE CURRENT PLAN IS FOR ALL OF THE, UH, ONSITE AMENITIES WOULD SERVE THE TENANTS, UM, AND BE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, THE BENEFIT OF THE TENANTS USE.

THERE IS A LOT OF, OF, UH, SERVICES THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING IN AND PARTNERING WITH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERS WHERE WE'LL HAVE, UH, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, YOU KNOW, AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS, PARTNER WITH LOCAL GROUPS FOR FINANCIAL LITER LITERACY TRAINING, HEALTH SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, BUT THAT THE CURRENT PLAN IS THAT THAT WILL BE FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE TENANTS WHO LIVE THERE.

AND, AND I THINK THERE WAS A MENTION THAT THE CHURCH WAS ON A SHORT-TERM LEASE.

DID, DID THEY MAKE THESE KIND OF COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES, AND IF SO, ARE THEY BEING MADE WHOLE SOMEHOW? UH, I, I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

UH, I KNOW THE, THE LANDOWNER IS HERE WHO COULD MAYBE ANSWER THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, BUT I, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

IF THE LANDOWNER'S WALKING UP, WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE 'EM WHOLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE 'EM WHOLE ON ANY WORK THAT THEY DID OUT THERE.

UH, THE MAJORITY OF IT, THE PAVED AREA THAT HAS A BASKETBALL GOAL AND WHERE THEY'VE PUT SOCCER GOALS, UM, THAT WAS THERE, THEY MAY HAVE REPLACED THE SOCCER GOALS, UH, THAN THE ONES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY THERE.

UM, BUT THAT FENCE WAS THERE.

UM, WE ACTUALLY, UH, SPENT MONEY TO OPEN IT UP FOR A FUTURE TENANT.

THERE USED TO BE A MOBILE HOME THAT, UH, IT WAS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THAT WE TRIED TO DONATE IT AND IT WAS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE.

THEY SAID, WE WON'T TAKE IT.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND SPENT THE MONEY TO DEMO THAT, TO CREATE A MORE OPEN SPACE FOR WHICHEVER TENANT CAME ALONG TO, TO DO A SHORT TERM LEASE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MARIA RAMIREZ, I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS QUESTION IS FOR, BUT MAYBE FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT DO YOU FORESEE A SCENARIO IN WHICH YOU COULD PARTNER WITH THE CHURCH TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SAME CONGREGATION BE ABLE TO STILL CELEBRATE IN THE SAME SPACE? I'VE, I'VE SPENT SOME TIME THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S A, AS YOU SAY, THERE'S A LOT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE AREA.

I'VE SEEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HANGING OUT AT THE STORE AND IT'S A VERY WALKABLE SPACE.

SO I'M WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD COME BACK.

UH, THE CHURCH IS CURRENTLY UNDER A, A LEASE THAT'S VERY MUCH UNDER MARKET.

UM, I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE A SCENARIO WHERE THEY COULD COME BACK.

UM, THE OWNERS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CHURCH AND, UM, SHOWING THEM DIFFERENT SITES FOR THEM TO CONSIDER, UM, AS PART OF THEIR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE TERMINATION OF THE LEASE.

UM, I SUSPECT THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON.

UH, BUT I DON'T SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO THE SITE.

NO.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, THANK YOU.

AND I DON'T KNOW, UM, WHO THIS QUESTION IS FOR, BUT HOW LONG HAS THE CHURCH BEEN AT THAT LOCATION? YES, ME AGAIN, THAT CHURCH, WHAT BUILDING? 19 70, 54 YEARS FROM NOW.

I MEAN, TILL NOW.

SO WE SPEND ALMOST $30,000 RENEWING ALL THE TEAM.

WE MAKE THE BASKETBALL COURT AGAIN, THEY PUT NEW BOARDS, UH, FOOTBALL, UH, UH, SOCCER FIELD, AND WE PLANNING TO PUT, UH, VOLLEYBALL SAND COURT.

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SO WE TRY TO DO, AT BEST EVEN WE ARE RENTING.

WE TAKE IT AS, UH, OR I MEAN, WE DON'T, WE SPEND THE MONEY.

WHAT NEED WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE WE PRESENT, WE WANT TO PRESENT THE WORLD OF GOD AS WE, WE DON'T, UH, THE GOSPEL IS FOR EVERYBODY IN A GOOD SHAPE BECAUSE THAT BUILDING WAS, WAS, UH, IN OUR WINDS, THE PARKING LOT WAS FULLY ON HOLES, VERY HOLES.

AND YOU CAN SWIM UP THERE WITH RAIN.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE HELP THE COMMUNITY, UH, PEOPLE SURROUND AND SUNDAY AFTERNOON THEY PLAY SOCCER AND BASKETBALL, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND THE TEACHERS HAVE 54 YEARS.

I, I JUST WANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD ON ONE THING.

THIS PARTICULAR CHURCH HAS BEEN THERE FOR LESS THAN TWO YEARS.

THEY, THEY, THEY SIGNED A LEASE, UH, ABOUT ONE YEAR AGO.

UM, THE CHURCH THAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY, UH, DWINDLED DOWN TO LESS THAN FOUR MEMBERS AND THEY BASICALLY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND LEFT.

AND SO THIS PARTICULAR CHURCH HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR.

UH, WHEN YOU SAY THAT, UM, I'M, WELL BECAUSE GIVEN THE HISTORY, ARE THE SAME PEOPLE INVOLVED, WERE THE SAME PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS NEWER CHURCH AS WAS INVOLVED IN, FROM WHAT I HEAR, THE, THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT THEY WERE SIMILAR PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE CHURCH THAT WAS THERE FOR 54 YEARS.

AND THE CHURCH THAT'S THERE HERE NOW, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, THAT IT'S FUNCTIONED AS A CHURCH FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR 54 YEARS UNDER WHATEVER NAME.

YES.

WELL, IF YOU'RE ASKING WHETHER THIS CHURCH, THE SAME PEOPLE WITH THIS CHURCH WERE INVOLVED IN THE PREVIOUS CHURCH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS NO, THEY WERE NOT.

THAT THAT WAS THE DIFFERENT CONGREGATION.

IS THAT WHAT THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, UM, THE OWNER IS A A YEAH.

ATTESTING TO AS WELL.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK SHE MEANS THE PASTOR.

YES, SIR.

RIGHT.

MY SCREEN IS NOT, I'M SORRY.

I, YES, UH, WE ARE THERE SINCE LAST YEAR, LIKE I SAID, UH, WAS A BEAUTIFUL CHURCH THAT WE SAW AT THAT TIME.

BUT, UH, WE TRIED TO DO AT BEST TO PRESENT THE GOSPEL IN A GOOD SHAPE BECAUSE I THINK THIS COUNTRY WAS BASED IN THE BIBLE.

SO, UH, IF WE FORGOT THE FUNDAMENTAL OF THIS COUNTRY, WE'RE GONNA BE LOST AS SOCIETY.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT PROFIT IS OKAY, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE BALANCE.

SO BY NOW, AT THAT TIME, THE OWNERS BUY THAT CHURCH IN A BARGAIN PRICE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS, IT'S A CHURCH.

SO THAT'S WHY WE TRIED TO BUY IT AND HE DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T ALLOW IT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TO TRY TO KEEP THAT BUILDING.

WE, WE CAN DO A DEAL WITH THE OWNERS IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IN A REASONABLE PRICE AS THEY BOUGHT IT, MAYBE WE CAN BUY IT TOO.

ALL RIGHT.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS OF QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? UH, YEAH.

CAN, UM, UM, THIS QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW THE DETAILS OF THIS AND ALSO ASK A QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, WHAT I'M SEEING OUR FAVORITE TOOL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION GOOGLE MAPS.

SO FIRST OF ALL, CAN YOU REVIEW ONE MORE TIME, THIS IS AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, CORRECT.

UH, SO AP APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY APARTMENTS AND PEOPLE SERVED, HOPEFULLY 192 UNITS.

AND, AND A GOOD NUMBER OF THOSE WOULD BE FAMILY SIZE, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

UM, 88, 2 BEDROOMS AND 77 3 BEDROOMS. SO YOU CAN ASSUME THAT A, A, A, A GOOD NUMBER, A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WILL BE OCCUPIED BY FAMILIES.

AND GIVEN THAT IT'S AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SEEKING, I ASSUME, SOME SUPPORTS AND SUBSIDIES TO MAKE THAT PROJECT SORT OF WORK.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

AND, UM, YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT?

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UH, SO THIS PROJECT WILL BE, UH, PART OF THE 4%, UH, LITECH PROGRAM.

UH, SO WE'LL BE APPLYING, UH, TO THE STATE FOR BONDS AS WELL AS TAX CREDITS.

EXCELLENT.

AND THEN I NOTICED IN THE BACKUP, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, GOOGLE MAPS, THAT THERE'S SEVERAL, UM, SCHOOLS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THESE PROPERTIES.

AND SEVERAL, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A PROGRAM, A IC WHERE THERE'S DISCOUNTED RENT FOR CHURCHES AND OTHER NONPROFITS COMMUNITIES TO USE THOSE SPACES ON THE WEEKENDS, WHICH BENEFITS BOTH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THOSE CHURCH COMMUNIC.

IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE AVAILABLE, ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE THOSE ALL SEEM TO BE DIRECTLY ADJACENT.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HIGH SCHOOL, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AS WELL AS A MIDDLE SCHOOL.

I ASSUME THAT THOSE STUDENTS AND FAMILIES WOULD ALL BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT.

EXCELLENT.

AND THEN JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, SORT OF MAKING ALL OF THIS PENCIL FOUR 40, YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE RIGHT LEVEL OF SUBSIDIES TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD IN THIS WAY? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO IF WE WERE, SAY FOR SOME REASON NOT TO HAVE THIS, WE MIGHT NOT GET SUCH A GOOD PROJECT IN THE FUTURE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? UM, FOR THE RECORD, CAN WE GET SOMEONE TO SAY THE LANDOWNER'S NAME? UH, I MISSED THAT EARLIER.

UH, LANDOWNERS ARE JAMES KANE AND MATTHEW BENNETT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

IF NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE, MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF.

A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE? UH, NOT MUCH TO ADD, OTHER THAN WHAT OUR DISCUSSION ALREADY WE'RE.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON A TRANSIT CORRIDOR OR IN A NEAR SCHOOLS.

AND TO TAKE PROPERTY THAT IS OF WHILE IT IS HOME TO A CHURCH PRESENTLY IS ALSO OF REALLY UNDERUTILIZED.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH LIKE IMAGES BACK THROUGH TIME, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A PARKING LOT THAT IS BASICALLY EMPTY EVERY TIME PHOTOS TAKEN.

SO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BUILD MORE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR WORKING FOLKS IN AUSTIN, AND I'M HAPPY TO, TO SEE IT MOVE FORWARD.

ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST, SORRY, DID I, OKAY.

UH, FOUR.

OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, OH, COMMISSIONER COX? YEAH, I, I'LL JUST, UM, I'LL JUST MIRROR THE, THE STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW THIS IS, THIS IS SEEMINGLY A VERY GOOD PROJECT.

I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF, OF, OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE NEED.

IT'S A GREAT LOCATION.

UH, IT'S ACROSS 180 3 FROM MY FAVORITE MEXICAN BAKERY, WHICH IS MAKING ME REALLY HUNGRY RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND IT IS AN UNDERUTILIZED PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK SIMPLY TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THIS PROPERTY OWNER AND THE DEVELOPER.

UM, IT IS A, A DECENTLY LARGE SITE.

I, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AS MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS POSSIBLE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO INCORPORATE COMMUNITY SPACE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE Y'ALL SOME FAVORITE NEIGHBORS.

UM, FOR THOSE WHO WHO UTILIZE THIS, THIS PLACE CURRENTLY.

SO I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THAT CONVERSATION CONTINUES AND THAT MAYBE, UH, INSTEAD OF KIND OF BEING IN THIS BATTLE BETWEEN A CHURCH AND COMMUNITY SPACE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, WE CAN TRY TO FIND A WAY TO, TO MELD BOTH IN, IN A GREAT PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS? SO I JUST WANNA ECHO SOME OF COMMISSIONER COX'S, UM, CONCERNS AND, UH, AND SAY THAT, YEAH,