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AH, THANK YOU.

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OKAY.

THIS IS THE RED ROOM MEETING

[CALL TO ORDER]

OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FOR JUNE 5TH, 2024 AT THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER EVENT CENTER.

ROOM 1 4 0 5 AT 6 3 1 0.

WILHELMINA DELCO DRIVE, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 7 5 2.

SO LET'S TAKE ROLL CALL COMMISSIONER, UH, KRUEGER HERE.

COMMISSIONER NICHOLS? HERE.

COMMISSIONER EINHORN? HERE.

COMMISSIONER BRIMER? HERE.

COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? HERE.

SECRETARY BRISTOL.

HERE.

BEDFORD HERE.

UH, OKAY.

OH YEAH, WE HAVE A FORUM.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

COMMUNICATION? LET'S SEE.

YES.

UH, CRAIG NAZER FIRST.

UH, CRAIG NAZER.

UH, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND, UH, ACTUALLY HE'S ON, HE'S ON.

OH, YOU'RE FOR ITEM THREE? SORRY.

YEAH, LET'S GO.

SANTIAGO.

UH, SANTIAGO.

OKAY.

GREENS COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I WAS ATTEMPTING TO GET A SLIDESHOW TOGETHER FOR THIS, UH, TEXT I 35, UM, PRESENTATION.

UM, YEAH, I NOTICED THERE'S NOT A JUNE MEETING, UH, LATER IN JUNE.

THE NEXT ONE IS IN JULY.

UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR A PRESENTATION FROM WATERSHED.

UM, A, A GOOD CON POINT OF CONTACT IS FROM, UM, CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES, A GENTLEMAN NAMED JAMES SNOW, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR.

UM, SHOULD HAVE QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION ON THE TEXT PROJECT AND FAIRLY INFORMATIVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE, UM, I GUESS LIKE SUBPOENA OR WHATEVER POWERS THIS BODY HAS WITH REGARDS TO GETTING, UM, CITY, CITY STAFF HERE.

UM, TO DO A PRESENTATION.

UM, I GUESS I WANTED TO DO LIKE A LITTLE INTRODUCTION JUST IN KIND OF LIKE TANGENT.

UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS ORGANIZATION TOWN CALLED VEST BEACH.

FOOD FOREST.

WE HAVE BEEN NAMED, UH, AS A RECIPIENT OF, UH, A GRANT WRITER.

UM, WE ARE 0.8 ACRES, UM, RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF I 35.

UH, TDO HAS CONCEDED TO PLACE A NOISE WALL, UH, AND HAS GIVEN US A GRANT WRITER, WHICH IS PRETTY EXCITING.

UM, WE MEET WITH THEM QUARTERLY AND, UH, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION, THIS PLACE AS A PLATFORM FOR, UH, ENGAGING WITH THE CITY TO IMAGINE, UH, HOW TO MITIGATE, UH, WHAT IS IN, IN THE BREACH, UM, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

UM, AGAIN, MY BIG CONCERNS ARE THE IMPACTS OF THE COLORADO RIVER ECOSYSTEM, BOTH DOWNSTREAM OF LONGHORN DAM, UM, AS WELL AS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BRIDGE OVER TOP OF THE COLORADO RIVER.

UM, I'VE BEEN LIKE READING INTO JANE JACOBS LOT LATELY, AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, SHE DISCUSSED IS, IS, UH, ROBERT, ROBERT MOSES, I BELIEVE WAS HIS NAME.

AND THAT, UH, HE WOULD OFTEN LIKE, DISCUSS THESE IDEAS OF THIS HIGHWAY EXPANSION AND TOTALLY NEGLECT THE IDEA OF MENTIONING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BRIDGE AT THE END OF THIS.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS CITY HAS REALLY MISSED, IS THERE'S BEEN A HUGE FOCUS ON THE CUT AND CAP.

AND ULTIMATELY THERE HAS BEEN VERY LITTLE INVESTIGATION ON WHAT THIS BRIDGE IS GONNA BE.

AND THEN OTHER THAN THAT, OF COURSE, THE 25 FOOT DIAMETER DRY TUNNEL THAT'S GOING BENEATH CAESAR CHAVEZ, UH, A PUMP, THAT'S, WHO KNOWS WHERE IT'S GOING, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S PUTTING INTO THE COLORADO RIVER.

UM, BUT AGAIN, UH, FESTIVAL BEACH, FOOD FOREST, UH, I'D LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THIS ORGANIZATION OR THIS BODY IF POSSIBLE, AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UH, YEAH.

CREATE UNIMAGINATIVE SOLUTION.

UM, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, I'LL SEE YOU SOON.

THANK YOU, SANTIAGO.

AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO ELIZABETH FUNK OR KAYLA, DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, KATHY MITCHELL.

HI, MY NAME IS KATHY MITCHELL.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF EQUITY ACTION, AND I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE A ENORMOUS COLLABORATION AMONG GRASSROOTS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, MANY OF WHICH YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SECTOR, UH, CAME TOGETHER TO PRODUCE THIS YEAR'S COMMUNITY INVESTMENT BUDGET.

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AND I'M HOPING FOR Y'ALL'S ENDORSEMENT AT A NEAR FUTURE MEETING.

UH, THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT BUDGET COVERS ALL THE THINGS ACROSS A HOST OF ISSUES, BUT THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR WAS CLIMATE YEAR FOR THE DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BUDGET AND WHAT ADDITIONAL THINGS NEED TO BE PAID FOR THROUGH GENERAL REVENUE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE FOOD PLAN AND THE CLIMATE PLAN IN PARTICULAR.

AND THE FOLKS IN OUR COALITION WHO ARE MORE EXPERT THAN I IN, UH, ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ON THE TABLE FOR AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME IDENTIFYING A HANDFUL OF THINGS.

UH, THE CLIMATE EQUITY IMPLEMENTATION PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD IS 1.335 MILLION.

UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT IS LITERALLY JUST TO GET THE THING STARTED.

UH, SIMILARLY FOR THE FOOD PLAN, WE HAVE PROPOSED SOME VERY MODEST ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO, UH, MANAGE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE FOOD PLAN AND COORDINATED ITS IMPLEMENTATION.

THERE ARE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES IN HERE AS WELL.

I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LONG OVERDUE NEED TO START FIXING LEAKY PIPES SO THAT WE HAVE MORE WATER.

WE HAVE SUGGESTED A IMPLEMENTATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.

TOO MUCH TO GO INTO HERE IN THIS MOMENT.

BUT I HAVE, UM, UNFORTUNATELY MY PRINTER CRAPPED OUT ON ME ON MY WAY HERE.

UH, SO I ONLY HAVE THREE COPIES, BUT I WAS PLANNING ON LEAVING THREE COPIES WITH Y'ALL.

UM, AND MY ASK IS THAT WE PUT ON, BE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING FOR AN ACTION ITEM TO ENDORSE ONCE Y'ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW IT'S A DOCUMENT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN YET, SO , YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT MAYBE NEXT TIME.

THANK YOU.

KATHY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU CAN EMAIL THAT, UM, YOUR SUPPORTING DOCS TO, UH, ELIZABETH FUNK OR KAYLA AND THEY COULD DISTRIBUTE IT TO US.

CAN I GET AN EMAIL ADDRESS FROM SOMEONE? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE THE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING.

HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE MINUTES? ARE THERE ANY JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

OKAY.

WELL, SECOND.

OKAY.

MOTION TO APPROVE BY EINHORN.

SECONDED BY RESI.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HANDS.

I WASN'T HERE, SO.

OBJECTION.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE KRUGER NICHOLS, RESI, UH, EINHORN, BEDFORD SULLIVAN, AND BRIMER, ALL THOSE ABSTAINING, UH, COMMISSIONER BRISTOL MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT UP

[2. Discussion and recommendation of Austin Water Capital Improvement Projects located in the Drinking Water Protection Zone for approval to include in the 5-year Capital spending plan as required by Financial Policy #8 – Frida Guo, Financial Manager II, Austin Water]

WE HAVE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION OF AUSTIN WATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LOCATED AT THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE FOR APPROVAL TO INCLUDE THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL SPENDING PLAN AS REQUIRED BY FINANCIAL POLICY NUMBER EIGHT.

AND DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS OR, UM, ACTUALLY IT'S, UH, UM, PRESENT A FILE PAGE MEMO.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE SUBMITTED BEFORE, SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S SHOWING ON THE SCREEN OR, OR NO, IT'S JUST A MEMO.

YES, WE CAN SHARE.

OKAY.

AND I'M SORRY TO TO INTERJECT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A LITTLE HARD FOR ME TO HEAR, UH, THE PERSON SPEAKING AT THE PODIUM.

IT WAS ALSO A BIT HARD TO HEAR DURING COMMENT AS WELL, SO I DUNNO IF OTHER ONLINE QUOTES ARE HAVING THE SAME ISSUE.

LOOKS LIKE NICHOL'S NODDING.

SO HE'S HAVING A SIMILAR ISSUE.

ARE WE ABLE TO, LIKE TECH CHECK THE MICROPHONE AT THE PODIUM? MS. SPEAKERS COULD PLEASE PROJECT INTO THE MICROPHONE.

YES.

FEEDBACK BY PHONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, SO GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS FRED GO.

I'M THE FINANCIAL MANAGER FOR CITY OF AUSTIN IN AUSTIN WATER DEPARTMENT.

AND TONIGHT WE ALSO HAVE, UH, TINA ROMERO IS FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT DIVISION MANAGER, AND ALSO, UM, LAUREN KING, UH, FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT DIVISION, UH, SUPERVISOR HERE WITH ME TOGETHER.

SO ACTUALLY TODAY I WILL PRESENT A FILE PAGE MEMO, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED AS A BACKUP.

SO

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ON THE MEMO AND, UH, THE FIRST PAGE, IT WILL EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHY WE ARE HERE.

SO, UM, IN AUSTIN WATER, UH, FINANCIAL POLICY NUMBER EIGHT, AUSTIN WATER NEEDS TO PRESENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH ALLOCATED IN DRINKING WATER PROTECT ZONE.

SO, PRO UH, PROJECTS INCLUDE THE NEW WATER AND WASTE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, CAPITAL EXPANSION PROJECTS, AND ALSO ANY KIND OF THE GROWTH RELATED PROJECTS.

UM, AS PART OF THE ANNUAL, UM, BUDGET PROCESS, THERE ARE THREE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS WE NEED TO PRESENT EACH YEAR.

UM, THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD AND, UH, UH, RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND WASTEWATER, UH, AND WATER, UH, COMMISSIONS.

AND I ALSO WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT AS PART OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN BOARD APPROVAL PROCESS, AUSTIN WATER SUBMITS A PLAN FOR THE CIP SPENDING FOR THE UPCOMING FIVE YEARS.

UM, THE FIVE YEARS FOR THIS YEAR IS THE PHYSICAL 2025 THROUGH 2029.

IN THE MEMO WE INCLUDED A SUBSIDE CIP PROJECT IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECT ZONE.

THIS PROJECTS REPRESENTS IMPROVEMENT REQUIRES TO AUSTIN WATER STANDARDS FOR O ABILITY AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.

AND WE DID INCLUDE A TABLE OUTLINING EACH OF THESE PROJECTS.

SO THERE ARE TOTAL 10 PROJECTS LISTED ON THE, SO ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE MEMO, UH, ACTUALLY LISTED FIVE WATER PROJECTS AND FIVE WASTEWATER PROJECTS THEY ARE ALL CARRYING OVER FROM LAST FIVE YEARS.

THE CIP PLAN PRESENTED TO YOU BEFORE, ACTUALLY THIS YEAR WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW PROJECT, UH, INCLUDED.

SO THE TOTAL SPENDING PLAN FOR THIS 10 PROJECTS WILL BE $68 MILLION.

UM, THOUSAND NEXT, NEXT FOLLOWING FIVE YEARS.

AND ALSO ON THE LAST PAGE OF THIS MEMO.

AND WE ALSO LISTED THE LOCATION OF ALL THESE 10 PROJECTS, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH AUSTIN WATER FINANCIAL POLICY NUMBER EIGHT.

UH, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, INFORMING YOU OF THIS 10 PROJECTS.

AND ALSO WE'RE OPEN TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROJECTS YOU MAY HAVE HERE.

THANK YOU.

UH, LET'S START UP WITH THE REMOTE COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER KRUEGER.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE, THE SOUND WAS STILL TOUGH.

IT LIKE, GETS REALLY LOUD AND THEN REALLY QUIET.

IT'S, UM, SO THIS, AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M JUST HOPING WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE MIC BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER.

OKAY.

UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THAT TABLE MIC JUST IN CASE FOR FUTURE STUFF.

I WAS ABLE TO HEAR A BIT BETTER, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THIS TIME.

THANKS.

COMMISSIONER NICHOLS.

UM, UH, COMMISSIONER QURESHI.

HEY, Y'ALL APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, UM, FOR THE DAVIS MEDIUM SERVICE WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY SORT OF AFTER THE 2030 FISCAL YEAR.

UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT.

APPRECIATE IT.

WHICH MIC SHOULD I USE? YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

HOW'S THAT? HI, SOUNDS GOOD.

THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

UH, THE DAVIS MEDIATOR, OH, UH, COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO YOU? OH, YES, SORRY.

MY NAME IS LAUREN KING.

I'M THE SUPERVISING ENGINEER OF THE CIP AND ASSET MANAGEMENT GROUP, WHICH IS PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT DIVISION IN AUSTIN WATER.

THE DAVIS MEDIUM SERVICE WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN PROJECT IS A LARGE PROJECT.

YOU SEE $170 MILLION IN THE 10 YEAR.

UM, THIS PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP, STARTS IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE.

THE DAVIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS LOCATED ALONG LAKE AUSTIN, NEAR THE PENNYBACK BRIDGE AND GOES INTO FAR EAST AUSTIN.

THIS WILL INCREASE THE ABILITY FOR THE DAVIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO CONVEY WATER TO THE CENTRAL PRESSURE ZONE, WHICH THEN CAN THEN BE TRANSFERRED TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST PRESSURE ZONES.

RIGHT NOW, THE ULRICH WATER TREATMENT PLANT IS THE MAIN, UH, PROVIDER OF WATER FOR THOSE AREAS.

SO THIS WILL BOTH INCREASE THE CAPACITY AND THE KIND OF RESILIENCY OF OUR WHOLE SYSTEM, GIVING US THE OPTION TO MOVE WATER FROM MORE PLANTS TO MORE AREAS.

IT ALSO SUPPORTS

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GROWTH IN THE EAST AUSTIN AREA, WHICH HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT.

APPRECIATE IT.

COMM UH, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN COMMISSIONERS AT CALEB CHAMPLIN WATERSHED PROTECTION.

IT SOUNDS LIKE BEFORE WE CONTINUE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THE MIC ISSUE IF APPARENTLY IT'S WORSE NOW ON THE, ON THE OTHER MIC, MIC .

SO, UM, WE'VE NOTIFIED IT AND THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, I BELIEVE.

OKAY.

SO SHOULD WE TAKE A RECESS THEN? UM, MAYBE LIKE FIVE MINUTES.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET A THUMBS UP REAL QUICK.

SHOULD WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? IT? SURE.

OKAY.

PLEASE .

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

UM, IT'S NOW SIX 16.

WELL, LET'S JUST COME BACK AT, UH, 6 22.

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THUMBS

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UP.

OKAY.

IT'S, UH, 6 25.

LET'S COME BACK FROM THIS RECESS.

I THINK WE HAVE ALL THE MIC ISSUES HANDLED.

KNOCK ON WOOD.

UM, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION.

ALRIGHT, SO, YOU KNOW THAT VERY RECENTLY THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, UH, HOME TO REDUCE COMPATIBILITY AND ALSO THE EAD, UH, ORDINANCES THAT WILL, WE HOPE WILL INCREASE HOMES WITHIN THE CITY.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THAT UTILITIES WOULD SUFFER FROM THAT.

UM, SO IS YOUR CIP PLAN TAKING INTO ACCOUNT HIGHER, UH, MORE HOMES PER, UH, SQUARE MILE OR, UM, ARE WE GONNA BE WAIT, WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE FROM, UM, REDUCING COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, UM, ALLOWING MORE UNITS PER LOT, ALLOWING SMALLER LOTS, ET CETERA? OKAY, HERE WE GO.

UH, YES.

SO FOR, UH, DENSIFICATION, INFILL, UM, WE, WE DON'T CHASE GROWTH.

YOU KNOW, WE LET GROWTH HAPPEN AND THEN RESPOND TO IT.

WE HAVE, UH, STANDARDS WHERE WE TRY TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CAPACITY IN OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S SOME INFLUENCE THAT GETS IN WHEN IT RAINS, AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE PIPES FULL CAPACITY ALL THE TIME.

AND WE'RE MONITORING THAT WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE STANDARD AREAS TO OVERFLOWS AND EXPANDING THE CAPACITY OF THOSE PIPES AS NEEDED.

UM, IMPACT FEES, OF COURSE, IF METER SIZES GO UP FOR DIFFERENT PIECES OF PROPERTY OR NEW PROPERTIES, IS A WAY THAT WE PAY FOR GROWTH SO THAT WE CAN FUND THOSE PROJECTS WHERE WE SEE THAT WE NEED THEM.

UM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT.

IF YOU, UH, FOR AN EXAMPLE, THE SOUTH AREA LIFT STATION IMPROVEMENTS, UH, BARTON CREEK PLAZA PROJECT, THAT'S A PROJECT THAT IS MOSTLY RESPONDING TO INFILL OF SOUTH AUSTIN IN AN AREA THAT WAS ALREADY DEVELOPED.

AND SO WE SEE A LIFT STATION THAT'S REACHING ITS CAPACITY, AND WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND EXPAND THAT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT ACROSS THE SYSTEM.

GREAT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY.

COMMISSIONER BRIER.

UH, THERE WE GO.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UH, FIRST, UH, ONE, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SPICEWOOD SPRINGS ROAD, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.

I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE GONNA BE ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, UH, WATER PIPES THERE.

ARE YOU JUST RELOCATING THEM AS A RESULT OF THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD? IT IS MOSTLY A RELOCATION PROJECT.

WE ARE ALSO GOING TO UPSIZE THOSE PIPES AS THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, AT CAPACITY AND WE SEE, UH, CONTINUED GROWTH IN THAT AREA.

AND SO WHILE WE'RE IN THE GROUND REPLACING THE PIPES, WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THEM SOMEWHAT.

OKAY.

AND THEN FOLLOWING UP ON COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN'S, UH, QUESTION ABOUT IT.

ARE YOU REQUIRING, UH, OR PLANNING ON TO REQUIRE DEVELOPMENTS TO EVALUATE THEIR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER WASTE WATER REQUIREMENTS, UH, AS THEY PLAN FOR NEW, NEW CONSTRUCTION? KEEPING IN MIND THE, UH, HOME ONE AND HOME TWO.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'VE GOT, UH, EIGHT INCH PIPES ALREADY LAID FOR, FOR THIS STUFF.

UH, SO NOW OUR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT SIZE UP IS, BUT LET'S PRETEND IT'S 12 JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT.

UH, YEAH, WELL, WHATEVER.

UM, SO ARE, NOW, WHEN A NEW DEVELOPER COMES INTO A AREA, ARE YOU NOW REQUIRING THEM TO PUT IN SAY, 12 INCH PIPES TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ANTICIPATED DENSIFICATION? OR ARE YOU GONNA ALLOW THEM TO STAY WITH THE EIGHT INCH PIPES? THAT WOULD BE WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NORMAL A MONTH AGO? YEAH, SO FOR, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT, IF IT'S A, A LARGE DEVELOPMENT, MULTIPLE PROPERTIES BEING DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, THAT ALL GOES THROUGH OUR SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST AND, UH, PROCESSES WHERE WE EVALUATE THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND ITS CAPACITY TO HANDLE THOSE FLOWS.

UM, IF THE CAPACITY IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO BRING THAT DEVELOPMENT ON BOARD AND THE DEVELOPER DOES NEED TO PAY FOR THAT GROWTH, PAYS FOR GROWTH, WE WILL SOMETIMES COST PARTICIPATE TO INCREASE THE SIZE BEYOND THAT IF WE THINK ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, AND THEN RECOUP THAT COST WITH THE IMPACT FEES WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE.

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UH, I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY DISCUSSION OF MOVING, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM THE EIGHT INCH AS BEING REALLY OUR MINIMUM SIZE STANDARD.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL EVALUATE AS WE SEE HOW THIS DENSIFICATION PLAYS OUT.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE TRY NOT TO BEGIN THE BUSINESS OF PREDICTING HOW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND INSTEAD RESPOND TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT HAPPENS.

WELL, I GUESS MORE SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS, AND I FORGET DAVE'S THE GURU ON THIS SORT OF STUFF, UH, BUT THERE'S CERTAIN LOT SIZES THAT CAN ALLOW ADDITIONAL OUTBUILDINGS TO BE BUILT.

AND THE, THE NUMBER OF THEM DEPENDS UPON THE SIZE OF THE LOT.

AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF NORMALLY YOU PUT AN EIGHT INCH PIPE, AND IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SUCH THAT NOW YOU CAN ALL OF A SUDDEN PUT SAY, TWO OR THREE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS BACK THERE, THEN ONE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT EIGHT INCH PIPE MIGHT NOT BE SUFFICIENT GOING FORWARD SHOULD THE RESIDENTS OPT TO GO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE HOME PLANT AT SOME LATER DATE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF NOT ANTICIPATING THIS, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IF THE CITY HAS ESSENTIALLY REZONED, YOU KNOW, A NEW DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BUILD, UH, YOU KNOW, NEW DWELLING THAT INCREASE THE DEMAND ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU MIGHT REQUIRE THEM TO AT THE TIME OF BUILDING WIND'S CHEAPEST, PUT IN A 12 INCH PIPE AS OPPOSED TO AN EIGHT INCH PIPE.

RIGHT.

I, I, I THINK YOUR LOGIC IS SOUND.

I, WE HAVEN'T ENCOUNTERED THAT SITUATION YET.

I THINK THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, CHOOSE TO UPSIZE THE METERS OR PUT IN MULTIPLE METERS PER LOT FOR, UH, TO TRIGGER OUR REQUIREMENTS TO LOOK AT THE PIPE SIZE IF THEY'RE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, SINGLE METERS ON SINGLE LOTS AND THAT, THAT MIGHT BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CONJECTURE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THEN THE DEVELOPER, OR, YOU KNOW, THE HOME OWNERS WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH EITHER HAVING TO UPSIZE THAT PIPE OR NOT BEING ALLOWED TO, UM, UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND ACCOMMODATE A LARGER METER SIZE.

RIGHT.

BUT AT THE TIME, THE DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, PUTS OUT THE, THE LOT SIZE.

THE DEVELOPER HAS NO IDEA OF WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER'S GONNA DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY BUY IT AND THEY HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON IT, AND THEN AT SOME LATER DATE, THEY DECIDE TO BUILD ONE OR MORE, UH, ADUS AND MAYBE ANOTHER HOMEOWNER UP THE STREET AND MAYBE 50 OF THEM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDE TO DO THIS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

AND NOW THE ORIGINAL EIGHT INCH PIPE IS OVERWHELMED WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEMAND FOR WATER WASTEWATER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

AND SO MY QUESTION IS, WOULDN'T IT BE PRUDENT TO HAVE THE MINIMUM PIPE SIZE BE UPPED, YOU KNOW, IN, IN DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE LOTS LARGER THAN WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE, THE HOME AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, ALLOWS PEOPLE TO DO, PUT ADUS ON THEM, YOU KNOW, UPSIZE THAT, UH, PIPE SIZE TO ACCOMMODATE IT, AS OPPOSED TO GOING BACK IN, SAY, 10 YEARS FROM NOW AND RIPPING UP THE STREET AND LAYING NEW PIPE.

IT'D BE REALLY CHEAP JUST TO PUT IN 12 INCH PIPE TOMORROW AS OPPOSED TO RIPPING IT.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF PREDICTING, BUT I CAN REALLY TELL YOU IT'S GONNA BE A LOT CHEAPER PUTTING A 12 INCH PIPE IN TODAY THAN PUTTING A 12 INCH PIPE IN, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

UH, AGREED.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE DEVELOPER CHOSE TO UPSIZE THEIR PIPES IN MAKING THE DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THAT FUTURE GROWTH, WE WOULD CERTAINLY ALLOW THEM TO.

BUT, UM, FOR US TO KIND OF SPECULATE AND CHANGE THE REQUIREMENT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AT THIS MOMENT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A NEW AMENDMENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, GROUPS IN THE UTILITY THAT ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, AMENDMENT CHANGES.

SO I'M SURE THEY'LL BE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY DISCUSSIONS, UH, TO MAKE THAT CHANGE AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT CHANGE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTION? OH, WELL, COMMISSIONER, SECONDARY PERSON, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED.

I'M JUST CHECKING BACK ON THE REMOTE COMMISSIONERS.

DID ANYTHING POP UP? OKAY.

UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? OH, UH, JUST ONE OTHER POINT, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER BRINER WAS MENTIONING.

PERHAPS IN A FUTURE MEETING WE COULD HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY

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SEE.

SURE.

SECOND PATH.

OKAY, WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT LATER.

UNDER FUTURE ITEMS, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT? I'M CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO IT.

NO, NO.

I MEAN, OH, I'M NOT IMPORTANT.

MY BAD.

I MEAN, CITY STAFF, I MEAN, THE POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HOME BUILDERS WOULD HAVE SOME IDEA ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT ARE BEING DRAWN NOW AND WHAT THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE.

I MEAN, MY OWN PERSONAL THOUGHT IS WE'RE GONNA SEE NEW SUBDIVISIONS COME IN AT 1800 SQUARE FOOT LOTS OR THREE UNITS PER LOT, UM, AS OPPOSED TO A VAST AMOUNT OF INFILL, UH, IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE WILL BE SOME, BUT IT'S NOT, I DON'T SEE US WIPING OUT A WHOLE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND REPLACING IT WITH 800 SQUARE FOOT LOT, 1800 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

BUT AGAIN, WE COULD ASK THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION WHAT THEY THINK AND IT'S JUST AN IDEA.

WELL, YEAH, I WOULD AGREE.

IS THAT, I MEAN, STEPPING BACK, YOU KNOW, FURTHER IS, IT'S REALLY BECOMES KIND OF A BUILDING CODE ISSUE, RIGHT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE THAT SAYS YOU DO THESE THINGS, BUT THERE'S LOCAL MODIFICATIONS BASED UPON WHATEVER'S GOING ON IN AUSTIN RELATIVE TO BOISE, IDAHO.

AND WE MAY FIND THAT IT'S IN THIS BEST INTEREST BASED UPON THESE ZONING OF AUSTIN THAT WE ALTERED THE BUILDING CODE TO ACCOMMODATE THE HOME INITIATIVE BY INCREASING, I DUNNO, ELECTRICAL WIRES OR I, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW? AND SO, YES, I WOULD SECOND IT YOUR THING.

YEAH.

SO JUST TO, UM, GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF FALLING OUTTA THE BOUNDS OF THIS, SO, UM, LET'S SAVE THAT FOR ANOTHER TIME.

YEAH.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION, CORRECT? WE DO.

THANKS .

CHAIR, BEFORE WE READ THE MOTION, I JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH OUR REMOTE SPEAKERS.

HOW, HOW'S THE AUDIO SETTING NOW? BETTER COURT.

I, OKAY, SO MAYBE IT'S AN ISSUE WITH MY COMPUTER BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN MOST OF WHAT HE SAID, AND THEN I HEARD HIM SAY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? AND I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HE SAID BEFORE.

SO IS THAT THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T HEAR THAT? HE WAS, HE DID NOT HAVE HIS MIC ON.

SO THAT WAS A, AGAIN, UH, JUST, JUST VERY BRIEFLY THE IDEA.

THE QUESTION IS BRING IN SOME, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT BUILDS HOMES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY PREDICT ABOUT, UH, HOW MUCH INFILL WE WILL EXPECT VERSUS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST BUILDING, UH, DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ON 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

HOW MANY OF THEM EXPECT TO SUBDIVIDE THE SUBDIVIDE THOSE LOTS OR BUILD THREE UNITS ON A 57 50 SQUARE FOOT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY LOT? ALL THAT I HEARD.

OKAY.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I'M GONNA READ THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE.

SO, UH, JUNE 5TH, 2024, SUBJECT DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION FOR AUSTIN WATER, WHICH WE, UH, WE'LL REFER TO AS A W CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LOCATED IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE FOR APPROVAL TO INCLUDE IN THE A W'S FIVE YEAR CAPITAL SPENDING PLAN, UH, AS REQUIRED BY A W FINANCIAL POLICY.

NUMBER EIGHT, WHEREAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN WATER WATER UTILITY PRESENTED AND UPDATED THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION ON NEW GROWTH RELATED CAPITAL, IT SHOULD SAY NEW AND EXISTING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PRO PROGRAMS, UM, LOCATED IN THE DRINKING WATER PROJECTION ZONE.

AND WHEREAS AUSTIN WATER UTILITY PROVIDES ADEQUATE DRINKING WATER AND RELIABLE SYSTEMS FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE CUSTOMERS, THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR THE INCLUSION OF THE CIP PROJECTS IN THE AUSTIN WATER UTILITY FIVE YEAR CAPITAL SPENDING BUDGET.

SECOND.

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WITH THAT? OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

WE HAVE NICHOLS, KRUEGER, RESI, EINHORN, BEDFORD, BRISTOL SULLIVAN, AND BRIMER.

MOTION PASSES IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

UM, NEXT UP WE HAVE A

[3. Presentation, discussion, and recommendation on bird-friendly design and building solutions from Travis Audubon – Heidi Trudell, requested by Commissioner Bristol]

PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION, AND RECOMMENDATION ON BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN AND BUILDING SOLUTIONS FROM TRAVIS AUDUBON.

AND DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? SHE'S REMOTE.

OH, YOU'RE REMOTE.

I SEE YOU NOW.

HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

I'M HERE WITH THE TRAVIS AUDUBON SOCIETY AND A MEMBER OF THE ADVOCACY COMMITTEE.

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I ATTEND THE ANN RICHARD SCHOOL FOR YOUNG WOMEN LEADERS, AND I'M IN THE 10TH GRADE.

I'M ALSO AN AVID BIRDER.

THE MISSION OF THE AUDUBON SOCIETY IS TO PROTECT AND CONSERVE BIRD LIFE.

AUSTIN IS A KEY AREA FOR BIRDS BECAUSE IT IS UNDERNEATH THE CENTRAL FLYWAY OF BIRD MIGRATION.

AND IT, OUR AREA PROVIDES A KEY PRIME STOP DURING THOSE LAW AND MIGRATORY JOURNEYS WITH ITS RIVER HABITAT.

THE TRAVIS AUDUBON SOCIETY WAS FORMED IN THE 1950S OVER FEARS OF DISAPPEARING HABITAT.

AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE TO, I HATE INTERRUPT, BUT INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

I'M LILY .

I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF TRAVIS AUDUBON.

THANK YOU.

I'M HERE TO MA CONTINUE.

YES.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

AS I WAS SAYING, THE TRIATHLON SOCIETY WAS FORMED IN THE 1950S OVER FEARS OF DISAPPEARING HABITAT.

AND AS Y'ALL CAN ALL SEE EVERY DAY, AUSTIN HAS NOT STOPPED GROWING AND THE SOCIETY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE RATE OF DEVELOPMENT.

IN FACT, IN THE PAST FEW DECADES, BIRD POPULATIONS HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED, AND MORE THAN 3 BILLION BIRDS HAVE BEEN LOST.

AT PRESENT, BIRD POPULATIONS ARE VERY FRAGILE.

OUR OWN GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER, WHICH NESTS ONLY IN CENTRAL TEXAS, IS ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST.

BECAUSE WINDOW AND BUILDING COLLISIONS KILL MORE BIRDS THAN ANY OTHER THREAT, EXCEPT OUTDOOR CATS.

WE LOSE MILLIONS OF BIRDS EVERY YEAR WHO WOULD OTHERWISE SURVIVE SIMPLY BY BEING ABLE TO PERCEIVE GLASS AS A BARRIER THEY CANNOT FLY THROUGH.

SO THE TRAVIS OTTAWA SOCIETY HAS ASKED HEIDI TRUDELL AN EXPERT IN BIRD SAFE BUILDING DESIGN TO UPDATE THE CITY OF AUSTIN ON WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PROTECT BIRDS FROM OUR BUILDINGS.

SHE'S A NATIVE TEXAN WHO GREW UP SURROUNDED BY THE UNPARALLELED BIRD LIFE THAT TEXAS OFFERS.

HER BIRD COLLISION WORK BEGAN IN 2003.

IN OCTOBER OF 2023, HEIDI WAS IN CHICAGO TO PRESENT ABOUT BIRD COLLISIONS AT THE FACADES PLUS CONFERENCE.

THE PRESENTATION FELL ON THE DAY AFTER THE MOST CATASTROPHIC BIRD COLLISION INCIDENT.

IN RECENT HISTORY, OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL HOURS, MORE THAN 960 SONGBIRDS STRUCK THE GLASS AND DIED AT THE MCCORMICK PLACE CONVENTION CENTER.

WHILE THOUSANDS MORE WERE DOCUMENTED AS INJURED OR DEAD ACROSS THE CITY, WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN HERE.

AUSTIN HAS QUALIFIED AS A BIRD CITY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS A BIRD SAFE CITY.

RECENTLY, GUARDIAN GLASS HAS HIRED MS. TRUDEL AS A TECHNICAL CONSULTANT, WHERE SHE HELPS THE COMPANY AND ITS CLIENTS NAVIGATE BIRD SAFE CODES AND DESIGN.

SHE CURRENTLY LIVES IN ANN ARB, MICHIGAN.

SO PLEASE, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WELCOME MS. HEIDI TRUDA.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LILY.

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN.

AWESOME.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MARA IS PRESENT IN PERSON.

UM, I THINK SHE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

UM, CAN I CONFIRM THAT ON SITE, HEIDI? HEIDI? WE DO NOT ANY IN PERSON SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU.

SOMEBODY IN THAT CASE.

OH, UH, IS MARA, WE DO, WE, WE DO HAVE SOMEONE FOR ITEM THREE, BUT SHE CAN COME UP AFTER, BUT SHE CAN COME UP AFTER, UM, AFTER YOU PRESENT.

OKAY.

UM, AND LAST TIME Y'ALL HAVE THE PRESENTATION, UH, SHARED ON YOUR END OF THINGS.

UH, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PULL IT UP ON MY END OR DO YOU WANT TO, UH, PULL IT UP ON YOUR END? UH, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? WHAT, EITHER WAY.

UM, I SHOULD JUST SHARE MY SCREEN.

IT'S, IT'S THE BIRD PRESENTATION, THE AUDUBON.

MM-HMM.

HEIDI.

I, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE, WE WERE INFORMED YOU THAT YOU'LL BE PRESENTING IT ON YOUR END.

PERFECT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

FINGERS CROSSED.

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN YET? NO, NOT ON OUR SIDE.

IT IS POSTED, SO WE MAY BE ABLE

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TO SHARE IT, UM, FROM, FROM WHAT HAS BEEN POSTED.

UH, ONE MOMENT.

YES, WE CAN SEE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THIS, UM, IT WAS PRESENTED IN A VERY SIMILAR FORMAT A FEW WEEKS AGO TO YOUR DESIGN COMMISSION.

UH, IT HAS BEEN SLIGHTLY MODIFIED FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

UM, TO JUMP IN REALLY QUICKLY, THE OVERVIEW OF THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO HIT LIGHTLY ON GEOGRAPHY, UH, THE GLASS IMPLICATIONS FOR CONSERVATION, UM, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR DESIGN IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

UH, AND THEN I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL HAVE THE SUMMARY THAT WAS PRESENTED WITH THIS, UH, BOTH FOR THE DESIGN COMMISSION AND FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

SO, AS LILLY MENTIONED, AUSTIN IS IN THE HEART OF A GINORMOUS MIGRATION CORRIDOR.

UH, IT IS THE MAJOR PRIMARY CORRIDOR FOR NORTH AMERICA.

HUNDREDS OF SPECIES USED THIS ROUTE DURING SPRING AND FALL MIGRATION.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, TEXAS IS HOME TO THREE OF THE TOP 10 DEADLIEST CITIES, FOUR BIRDS.

AND AUSTIN'S KIND OF IN THAT TRIANGLE THERE.

UM, IT'S REALLY ALMOST DIRECTLY CORRELATED TO THE AMOUNT OF GLASS PRESENT IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT THAT ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS ARE NECESSARILY SAFE FOR BIRDS.

THEY'RE JUST NOT QUITE AS GLASSY.

NOW.

GLASS IS A VERY STRANGE MATERIAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE IN THIS TOPIC.

AND REALLY, GLASS HASN'T EVEN BEEN PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS BIRDS UNTIL THE LAST A HUNDRED YEARS.

UM, ESSENTIALLY THE ORIGINS OF GLASS STARTED OUT VERY WAVY.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE, HOPEFULLY, UH, IT WAS NOT EXACTLY, UM, THE GIANT PLATE GLASS INSPECTORS THAT WE SEE TODAY.

UM, THE, THE SMALL PANES AND, AND WAVY TEXTURES REALLY DIDN'T MAKE IT MUCH OF A COLLISION RISK FOR BIRDS AT ALL.

NOW, IN 1959, ALL OF THAT CHANGED BECAUSE FLOAT GLASS PRODUCTION MADE HIGH QUALITY GLASS BROADLY AVAILABLE AND MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE PRICES.

SO SUDDENLY THE TECHNOLOGY OUTPACED ANYTHING THAT, UM, IT SEEMED BEFORE IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.

SO IN THE EIGHTIES, WE SAW ANOTHER SHIFT AS WELL, BECAUSE LOW E COATINGS, UH, MAKE BUILDINGS REMARKABLY EFFICIENT, BUT THEY INCREASE THE REFLECTIONS, UM, THAT WINDOWS HAVE.

SO ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY SIGN OF REFLECTION, UH, THAT'S COHERENT FOR PEOPLE OR FOR BIRDS TO SEE.

AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN SO GOOD THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THE GLASS.

NOW IF WE'RE TAKING IT OUT OF CONTEXT, WE'RE SEEING PARTS THAT ARE CLEAR.

WE'RE SEEING PARTS THAT ARE REFLECTIVE.

AND IF WE STRUGGLE TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS WITH OUR OWN EYES, BIRDS DON'T STAND A CHANCE.

AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS WORKING ON THE END AS WELL.

SO MOST PEOPLE THINK OF A BIRD WINDOW STRIKE AS ESSENTIALLY A, A LIGHT BUMP.

AND WHEN YOU SEE THIS, THIS FELLOW DOES LEAVE A NOSE PRINT ON THE GLASS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF BIRD STRIKES DON'T EVEN SO MUCH AS LEAVE A PRINT.

SO WHAT WE END UP BEING AWARE OF IS A TINY FRACTION OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, UNFORTUNATELY, IS MORE LIKE THIS.

IN ORDER FOR BIRDS TO STAY ALOFT IN THE AIR, THEY HAVE TO MOVE AT PRETTY HIGH, PRETTY HIGH SPEEDS.

AND BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO FLYING THROUGH VERY DENSELY VEGETATED AREAS, THEY'RE VERY AGILE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO RELYING ON VISUAL CUES THAT ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES THAT WE USE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE WORDS THAT FLY OUT OF SIGHT END UP DYING OUT OF SIGHT.

UM, SOME OF THOSE INJURIES FROM COLLISIONS MAY NOT KICK IN UNTIL 48 HOURS OR 72 HOURS LATER.

UM, A LOT OF THAT IS BRAIN HEMORRHAGING, INTERNAL BLEEDING.

UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY PROBLEMATIC.

ESSENTIALLY, BIRDS ARE CONCUSSED AT BEST.

UM, WELL, BEST CASE SCENARIO IS THEY DIE QUICKLY ON SITE.

WORST CASE SCENARIO IS THAT CONCUSSION LATER LEADS TO THEIR DEATH.

PLUS THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS, YOU KNOW, AFTER A CONCUSSION, THEY HAVE MEDICAL

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SUPERVISION.

THEY'RE NOT TOLD TO WALK IT OFF OUT THERE WITH CATS AND DOGS AND CARS AND HAWS AND LIONS, AND TIGERS AND BEARS, UM, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO DO.

SO REAL QUICK TO ADDRESS LIGHTING, UH, WHILE IT IS NOT MY PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS, UM, PRESENTATION, UM, OR NECESSARILY MY SPECIALTY, LIGHTING GETS SO MUCH ATTENTION IN THE WORLD BECAUSE IT, IT IS IMPLI IMPLICATED IN SOME OF THE LARGEST AND MOST CATASTROPHIC, UH, CONDITION INSTANCES.

BUT GLASS IS NOT THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF DEATH FOR BIRDS.

UH, IT'S BAD FOR A, A FULL SLEW OF REASONS.

UM, BIRDS ARE MY FIRST LOVE.

MOTHS ARE MY SECOND LOVE AND FATS ARE KIND OF MY MY THIRD.

UM, AND SO LIGHT IS BAD FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS YEAR ROUND.

UM, SO ADDRESSING LIGHT AT APPROPRIATE LEVELS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO IT'S BEST WHEN IT'S NEEDED, WHERE IT'S NEEDED, WHEN IT'S NO BRIGHTER THAN IT'S NEEDED WHEN YOU'RE ELIMINATING UPLIGHTING AND WHEN YOU'VE ELIMINATED AS MUCH IN BLUE SPECTRUM AS POSSIBLE.

SO THERE ARE SOME PRETTY EASY FIXES TO THAT.

SHIELDING DIMMERS TIMERS, MOTION SENSORS, UM, LIGHTING CURFEWS.

YOU SEE THE, THE, THE ALMIGHTY POWER SWITCH.

UM, IF YOU DON'T NEED IT, DON'T USE IT.

WE ARE REALLY GOOD AT OVERLIGHTING THINGS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S SO DISRUPTIVE, BOTH FOR WILDLIFE BEHAVIOR AND WITH HUMAN ENDOCRINE SYSTEM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO KEEP AN EYE ON LIGHTING, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP HEALTHY LAKE SKIES.

PLUS IT SAVES MONEY, IT LOWERS YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT.

LOOKS FANTASTIC YEAR ROUND.

BUT BACK TO GLASS, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WAS ONE MONTH BREAK.

UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I WALKED AROUND ONE BUILDING AND AFTER TAKING THIS PHOTO WALKING BACK TO THE CAR, I PICKED UP TWO MORE COMING BIRDS.

UM, THAT'S KIND OF TYPICAL FOR A BAD BUILDING IN .

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.

WE JUST DON'T SEE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR IT.

UM, WE'RE NOT, UNFORTUNATELY, SQUIRRELS END UP EATING A LOT OF BIRDS TOO.

SO, YOU KNOW, SQUIRRELS ARE OUT THERE MORE OFTEN THAN WE ARE.

UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE.

AND THAT'S THE, THESE BIRDS ARE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, HEADING TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND WE WERE JUST A STOP IN THE MIDDLE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE THEIR LAST STOP.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.

BUT, UM, IN THIS CASE, EVERYBODY EXCEPT THE HUMMINGBIRD AND THE ROBIN WOULD'VE BEEN HEADING TO CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA, WHERE AS INSECT WARS, THEY WOULD BE EATING PESTS, SAY AT COFFEE FARMS. AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD RESEARCH THAT INDICATES, UM, THAT THE MORE BIRDS YOU HAVE ON COFFEE FARMS, THE LESS PESTICIDES YOU NEED.

SO EVERY TIME A BIRD HITS YOUR WINDOW, THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE, MORE PESTICIDE FOR YOUR COFFEE YIELD.

UM, AND BACK TO THE LIGHTING SITUATION, LIGHTS AND TALL BUILDINGS REALLY GET ALL OF THE ATTENTION.

UNFORTUNATELY, IF WE'RE ONLY ADDRESSING THE TALLEST BUILDINGS, WE ARE IGNORING PRETTY MUCH 99% OF THE PROBLEM.

UM, HIGH RISES ARE REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR JUST A TINY FRACTION OF STRIKES, BUT THAT IS MOSTLY BECAUSE HIGH RISES ARE A TINY FRACTION OF BUILDINGS OVERALL.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PORTION OF ANY BUILDING IS THE FIRST 100 FEET, BASICALLY.

UM, SO WITH RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND LOW RISES, THEY KILL ROUGHLY THE SAME NUMBER OF BIRDS, ANYWHERE FROM 23 TO 28 BIRDS PER YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY, WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY AND THE GLASSIER CONSTRUCTION, THOSE NUMBERS JUST KEEP GOING UP.

AND WE REALLY HAVE THIS, RIGHTFULLY SO, THIS LOVE OF PLANTING WITH NATIVE PLANTS.

UM, WE LOVE ATTRACTING POLLINATORS TO OUR AREAS.

UNFORTUNATELY, BY PROVIDING GOOD HABITAT, WE ARE LUING IN BIRDS TO DANGEROUS AREAS.

UM, SO ESPECIALLY COLLEGE CAMPUSES, WE LOVE OUR POLLINATOR GARDENS.

THAT'S YOUR LOW RISES THAT ARE ACTIVELY LUING IN BIRDS TO DANGEROUS AREAS.

SO WHAT'S GOOD FOR BIRDS IS GOOD FOR PEOPLE THOUGH, AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW PHENOMENAL, UM, TEXAS IS FOR BIRDWATCHING.

I CERTAINLY DIDN'T TAKE IT FOR GRANTED WHEN I LIVED THERE, AND I MISS IT EVERY DAY.

BUT A, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF JUST HOW IMPORTANT BIRDWATCHING IS FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.

UM, IF BIRDWATCHING IN TEXAS WAS

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ITS OWN COUNTRY, GDP, IT WOULD BE NUMBER 172 OUT OF 187 COUNTRIES.

THERE ARE MORE WILDLIFE WATCHERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAN THE TOTAL POPULATIONS OF ALL BUT SEVEN STATES.

TEXAS IS FULL OF OUTDOORSY PEOPLE FOR A REASON.

IT WAS A REALLY, UH, AND I WOULD SAY IT'S SECOND TO NONE.

TECHNICALLY, CALIFORNIA HAS REPORTED MORE SPECIES THAN TEXAS .

UH, THAT BEING SAID THOUGH, TRAVIS COUNTY HAS REPORTED 427 SPECIES OF BIRDS, WHICH IS MORE THAN 14 STATES HAVE REPORTED, WHICH IS REMARKABLY IMPRESSIVE AND REALLY SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE, WHICH Y'ALL HAVE DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB OF OBTAINING A BIRD CITY STATUS.

SO, FANTASTIC WORK.

KEEP IT UP.

UM, THAT, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IS A KIND OF JOINT COOPERATION THING WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE IN OTTOMAN, TEXAS.

IT'S NOT EASY TO GET CERTIFIED FOR IT.

UM, BUT IT DOES KIND OF PULL IN A FEW MORE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW IS THE CITY GOING TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS MOVING FORWARD? UM, BEING SAFE FOR BIRDS IS REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ATTRACTING BIRDS TO YOUR AREA.

SO BACK TO THE GLASS STOVE, BIRDS CAN'T SEE IT.

IT'S EITHER REFLECTIVE OR IT'S TRANSPARENT.

THEY CAN'T EVOLVE TO ADAPT TO SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SEE.

SO WINDOW COLLISIONS DO KILL JUST FROM NORTH AMERICA ALONE, BETWEEN 621 MILLION TO 2 BILLION BIRDS PER YEAR.

UM, AS OF FEBRUARY THIS YEAR, THAT NUMBER IS CURRENT.

THE PREVIOUS NUMBERS WERE GUESSTIMATED IN 2014.

THAT RANGE WAS 365 TO 990 MILLION.

UM, SO BASICALLY A BILLION.

BUT THE, THE MORE ACCURATE NUMBERS WE GET, THE THE BIGGER THEY ARE STAGGERING.

UM, BUT BIRD SAFE BUILDING STANDARDS DO ALIGN WITH AUSTIN'S VALUES OF BEING AN ECOLOGICALLY RESILIENT COMMUNITY.

BIODIVERSITY IS CRITICAL IN ANY SORT OF LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.

AND EVERY BIRD, EVERY BUILDING THAT HAS MADE BIRDS SAFE, BE IT NEW CONSTRUCTION OR IS A RETROFIT, WILL LITERALLY TANGIBLY SAVE DOZENS, TECHNIC HUNDREDS OF BIRDS PER YEAR.

UM, KIND OF A SAFE DEFAULT IS JUST ASSUME THAT EVERY BUILDING IS GOING TO KILL A MINIMUM OF TWO DOZEN BIRDS PER YEAR.

THE MORE GLASS THERE IS, THE BETTER THE HABITAT IS, THE MORE THAT EMERGENCE KEEPS GETTING PUSHED UPWARD.

IT'S NOT THAT WE CAN SAY, OH, THIS BUILDING IS BIRDS SAFE UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE, THE DEFAULT IS IT'S DANGEROUS UNLESS IT IS INTENTIONALLY MADE TO NOT BE.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE, I THINK, NINE STATES, UH, AND DC FOR THE US THAT HAVE BIRD SAFE BUILDING CODES, UM, OR MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THEM THAT HAVE BIRD SAFE BUILDING CODES.

AND OFFICIALLY, TEXAS DOES NOT HAVE A MUNICIPALITY THAT HAS ADOPTED AT A BROAD SCALE A BIRD SAFE STANDARD.

UM, IF I HAD INCLUDED EVERY CITY IN, UM, CANADA, ASIDE FROM TORONTO, THIS LIST WOULD'VE BEEN TWICE AS HIGH AS IT CURRENTLY IS.

UH, THIS IS ALL US AND TORONTO, BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE FIRST.

BUT, UM, WE'RE SEEING TRACTION REALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

UM, THERE'S RUMOR IN ARKANSAS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTING A CODE BEAR, OTHERWISE, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IS IN THE GREAT LAKES OUT WEST THE NORTHEAST.

UM, BUT WE'RE GETTING SLOW AND STEADY TRACTION AS MORE PLACES ADOPT ORDINANCES.

THAT BEING SAID, NOT EVERY ORDINANCE IS, UM, SAY, ADEQUATE.

WELL, THIS IS, UM, A, A GOOD INDICATION THAT BIRDS AND BUILDINGS CAN COEXIST.

UM, AND ORDINANCES ARE NOT A MAJOR FINANCIAL BURDEN.

UM, THE ADDITIONAL COST OF BIRD SAFE PRODUCTS BEING ADDED TO A PROJECT MIGHT BE A FRACTION OF A PERCENT.

UH, SO FAR THE HIGHEST NUMBER THAT I'VE SEEN ON A PROJECT WAS 0.38% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST.

UM, BUT THE EARLIER BIRD SAFE DESIGN HAS FACTORED INTO A A PLAN.

THE MORE THAT FEATURE CAN COMPLEMENT THE DESIGN.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL COST.

UM, BIRD SAFE DESIGN FEATURES CAN HELP

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WITH THERMAL COMFORT, WITH VISUAL COMFORT.

UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS THAT IT CAN IMPROVE THE ACTUAL BUILDING DESIGN, BUT THE LATER IN DEVELOPMENT THAT IT'S INCLUDED, UH, THE MORE CHALLENGING IT IS TO BOTH ADDRESS THE AESTHETICS AND THE FINANCES AND THE LOGISTICS OF, UH, INCLUSION.

THAT BEING SAID, WHEN PEOPLE DON'T USE BIRD SAFE DESIGN, FOLKS TAKE IT INTO THEIR OWN HANDS.

AND THIS BEAUTIFUL STUDY IN POLAND, UH, FOUND THAT GRAFFITI, SO ALL STRUCTURES ARE DANGEROUS.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY WERE LOOKING AT BUS SHELTERS.

AND YES, BUS SHELTERS DO ACTUALLY KILL A FAIR NUMBER OF BIRDS.

UM, BUT THEY FOUND THAT BUS SHELTERS WITH GRAFFITI AND DUST WERE REMARKABLY BIRD SAFE.

AND ON SOME CAMPUSES WHERE CLEAR GLASS RAILING HAS BEEN INSTALLED, UM, WITHOUT ANY SORT OF BIRD SAFE VISUAL MARKERS, UM, FOLKS HAVE TAKEN IT INTO THEIR OWN HANDS TO JUST LIKE THE TAPE ALL OVER THE RAILING BECAUSE IT KEEPS BIRDS FROM HITTING IT.

SO INCLUSION IN DESIGN EARLY ON PREVENTS, UM, CREATIVE AFTERMATH AS IT WERE.

UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, YOU CAN ENGAGE LOCAL COMMUNITY ARTISTS TO DO IT IN A MORE INTENTIONAL WAY, IF YOU LIKE.

SO COMPREHENSIVE CODES CAN INCLUDE AND SHOULD INCLUDE GROUND LEVEL TO AT LEAST ABOVE MATURE TREE CANOPY.

ALL HAZARD FEATURES.

SO GLASS WALKWAYS, GLASS RAILINGS, CORNERS, UH, SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.

NEW AND RETROFIT, UM, CONSTRUCTION IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS ALL HABITATS WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.

AND HAVING DEFINED, ACCEPTABLE MEASURES OF COLLISION PREVENTION ARE CRITICAL FOR A GOOD CODE.

SO A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IS NEW YORK CITY'S LOCAL LAW NUMBER 15.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEIR RETROFIT SECTION HAS SOME MAJOR LOOPHOLES.

UM, BUT AS A, AN INCENTIVE FOR VOLUNTARY CODES, UM, THERE ARE SOME CASES WHERE SAY IF THERE'S A, A CERTAIN LIMIT IN A PARTICULAR ZONE TO THE HEIGHT OF A BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MEET THIS CODE, YOU CAN HAVE AN EXTRA FLOOR ON THE BUILDING.

THAT SORT OF THING CAN, CAN BOOST ADOPTION OF THE CODE.

UM, THERE'S AN ASK US DOWN HERE NEXT TO LEAD BECAUSE RIGHT NOW LEAD 4.1 HAS BEEN UPDATED FROM A PILOT CREDIT TO AN INNOVATION CREDIT.

THE INNOVATION CREDIT IS FANTASTIC.

IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF BEING UPDATED TO LEAD 5.0 FROM 4.3.

THE WORDING LAST I SAW WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.

UM, I'M NOT SURE I LIKED THE DIRECTION IT WAS GOING, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW IT IT LANDS, IT MAY END UP BEING A SOLID CODE.

UH, WE'LL SEE.

BUT LEAD 4.3, I'M A FAN BROADLY SPEAKING, BUT MOST LOOPHOLES UNFORTUNATELY DO HAVE A LOT OF LOOPHOLES.

SO, AS I MENTIONED WITH NEW YORK CITY WHERE THEIR RETROFITS, IT ONLY HAS TO BE BIRD SAFE GLASS IF THEY'RE REPLACING 100% OF THE GLASS, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN REPLACE 90% OF THE GLASS AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BIRDS SAFE.

OR YOU CAN DO 50% THIS YEAR AND WAIT A YEAR OR TWO AND THEN DO ANOTHER 50%, WHICH IS REALLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THAT COMPLETELY IGNORES THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING A GOOD SAFE CODE.

UM, SOME OTHER PITFALLS WE SEE, LIKE ALAMEDA, CALIFORNIA BUILDINGS OVER IT'S 32 OR 36 FEET HIGH, WELL, SHORTER THAN 32 FEET DOESN'T MEAN IT'S BIRD SAFE AS WE SAW.

BUS SHELTERS CAN BE QUITE DANGEROUS.

UM, A SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT OR IN SAN FRANCISCO GRANTED LIMITS, THIS CODE WAS WRITTEN.

IT WAS ONE OF THE EARLIEST ONES IN THE NATION.

UM, AND THEY HAD ASSUMED THAT PROXIMITY TO A PARK OR RIPARIAN AREA WOULD INCREASE THE DANGER, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY HOW BIRDS USE THE ENVIRONMENT, UNFORTUNATELY.

SO MOST OF THESE LOOPHOLES, UM, RENDER THE CODES REALLY KIND OF TOOTHLESS.

AND YOU CAN MEET A CODE PRECISELY TO THE T AND STILL HAVE AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS BUILDING BECAUSE THE CODES DON'T ACTUALLY RESULT IN BIRD SAFE CONSTRUCTION.

SO ANOTHER THING WE SEE IS THAT THESE CODES ARE FOCUSED IN CITIES, ON CITIES AND USUALLY HIGH RISES.

UM, AND THAT'S NOT WHERE THE BULK OF THE PROBLEM IS, BUT THAT IS WHERE THE CODE ARE.

SO

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THERE, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THERE.

AND OF COURSE, WE DO LOVE OUR HIGH RISK BUILDING FEATURES.

WE LOVE OUR INDOOR PLANTS.

WE ADORE ATRIUMS CORRIDOR EFFECT IS WHERE WE SEE GLASS WALKWAYS.

WE SEE FROM ONE SIDE OF TWO PANES OF GLASS TO ANOTHER ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UM, STRUCTURAL TRAPS.

BUILDINGS REALLY LOVE U-SHAPED OUTSIDE COURTYARD TYPE SITUATIONS.

AND THEN LANDSCAPE REFLECTIONS.

WE REALLY ENJOY OUR SHINY, SHINY BUILDINGS.

YOU KNOW, THAT BEING SAID, LANDSCAPING IS A RISK FACTOR, BUT IT IS NOT A PREVENTION METHOD.

SO IF ALL OF THESE TREES WERE CUT DOWN, THE BUILDING WOULD NOT BE SAFE.

IT JUST WOULD NOT BE AS HIGH RISK, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

UH, THE FIRST TIME I DROVE PAST THIS BUILDING, I THOUGHT IT WAS SOCCER NET.

IT IS NOT A SOFTER NET.

UM, AND A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT TRIP FOLKS UP, UH, UNDERSTANDABLY SO THIS IS NOT AN INTUITIVE, UM, REALM OF STUDY AT ALL.

SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST MYTHS IS THAT LOW REFLECTIVITY GLASS IS SAFE.

THE PROBLEM IS LOW REFLECTIVITY GLASS.

IT'S STILL ACTUALLY HIGHLY REFLECTIVE DEPENDING ON LIGHTING.

SO WHEN PEOPLE USE GLASS AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE SO THAT BIRDS WILL SEE THAT THERE'S NOTHING INSIDE THE BUILDING FOR THEM TO GO TO, UH, OR THEY USE MINIMAL GLASS ON ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT INTEGRATION IS FROM.

IT REALLY ENDS UP BEING MORE OF A FACTOR OF IMMEDIATE ONSITE VEGETATION RATHER THAN, UM, AND LIGHTING CONDITIONS RATHER THAN THESE ASSUMPTIONS THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD RULE OF THUMB, BUT ARE NOT ACCURATE.

SO IN THIS CASE, UH, THIS IS A NA AUDITORIUM HAS A GIANT POOL ON THE INSIDE, AND IT IS ALMOST ALL BRICK FROM THE OUTSIDE.

AGAIN, THE AVERAGE LOW-RISE BUILDING KILLS BETWEEN 23 AND TWO FIVE BIRDS PER YEAR.

THIS BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ALMOST ENTIRELY BRICK, STILL HAS A FEW TINY WINDOWS.

AND THIS BUILDING KILLS THE SAME NUMBER AS THE AVERAGE LOW-RISE.

IT JUST CONCENTRATES THE BIRDS IN A MUCH SMALLER AREA.

SO THE MORE MASONRY A BUILDING HAS DOES NOT MAKE IT PROPORTIONALLY MORE BIRDS SAFE.

IT JUST FUNNELS BIRDS TO THESE ISOLATED PORTALS THAT THEY THINK IS A PORTAL.

AND AGAIN, IT BOILS DOWN TO LANDSCAPING BEING A RISK, BUT NOT A PREVENTION FACTOR.

UM, AS BIRDS END UP GETTING FUNNELED TO WHERE THEY THINK THEY CAN SEE TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO I KNOW THIS SOUNDS COMPLICATED.

THERE ARE REALLY WONDERFUL RESOURCES OUT THERE.

AND AS THERE'S MORE DEMAND, UM, WITH THE PASSING OF EVERY CODE, UM, COMPANIES ARE TAKING THIS MORE SERIOUSLY.

SO AS WE'VE SEEN WITH LIKE SOLAR PANELS, COSTS DO COME DOWN AS DEMAND INCREASES.

THERE'S MORE PRODUCT DIVERSITY NOW THAN EVER BEFORE.

UM, I BASICALLY HAVE TO UPDATE NEW RESOURCES FOR, FOR PRODUCT GUIDES LIKE EVERY FOUR TO SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH CHANGE IS HAPPENING IN THIS FIELD CONSTANTLY.

SO BEST PRACTICES TEND TO BE UPDATED ABOUT EVERY TWO YEARS.

UM, BUT PRODUCTS ARE JUST CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT COLLISION PREVENTION OPTIONS FOR EVERY AESTHETIC AND BUDGET, AND THE SKY'S THE LIMIT.

UM, I DO ADORE THE SHADE STRUCTURES 'CAUSE IN TEXAS SHADE IS THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO TO REDUCE, UM, TEMPERATURES INSIDE BUILDINGS.

SO STRUCTURAL SHADES THAT'S NOT EVEN LESS.

AND YOU CAN GET CREATIVE WITH, UM, EVEN SHADE SCREENS.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY IS A PHENOMENAL RESOURCE FOR MOST OF THIS INFORMATION.

UM, THEY DO HAVE REALLY EXCELLENT RESOURCES FOR LEGISLATION, UM, PRODUCTS AND THREAT FACTORS.

THERE IS, UH, A BIT OF A COMPLICATED, UM, NUANCE TO THEIR THREAT FACTOR TESTING AND SCORING SYSTEMS. UM, NOT ALL PRODUCTS PERFORM THE SAME ON EVERY BUILDING, SO EVERY BUILDING SHOULD BE ASSESSED KIND OF INDIVIDUALLY ON ITS OWN DESIGN FEATURES.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY WOULD WANT TO PULL IN EXPERTS, UM, TO DISCUSS.

BUT THE, THE BASIC DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT THEY'VE GOT ARE FAIRLY SOLID AND UPDATED EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, AND THERE ARE FOLKS LIKE MYSELF WHO PRIOR TO MARCH OF THIS YEAR, UH, I WAS INDEPENDENTLY CONSULTING ON BIRD SAFE CONSTRUCTION.

NOW I DO WORK FOR GUARDIAN GLASS, UM, AS A TECHNICAL ADVISOR, SO I'M SLIGHTLY BIASED THERE NOW.

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BUT THAT BEING SAID, TRAVIS OTTOMAN THAT AND BIRD CONSERVANCY NATIONAL OTTOMAN, UM, THERE ARE PLENTY OF RESOURCES OUT THERE AND MORE BECOMING AVAILABLE EVERY DAY AS THIS, UH, THIS FIELD DRAMATICALLY DIVERSIFIES.

SO FOR TEXAS IN PARTICULAR, IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

THEY JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THAT OPTION EVEN EXISTS.

UM, TEXAN BY NATURE SAID THIS BEAUTIFULLY.

UM, WHEN THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S HINDERING COMPANIES WHO INVESTING IN CONSERVATION PROJECTS, IT'S LACK OF INFORMATION.

THEY DON'T KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THEIR ACTIONS.

AND WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THIS SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, RESPONSIBILITY, CONSERVATION PROJECTS JUST AREN'T EVEN AN OPTION FOR CORPORATE SUSTAINABILITY PORTFOLIOS FOLIOS.

SO IN CONCLUSION THAT WHAT'S GOOD FOR BIRDS IS GOOD FOR PEOPLE.

UM, PLEASE DO FEEL FREE TO CHECK THE, UH, REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE DESIGN COMMISSION.

UM, I THINK IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE ONLINE AS WELL.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW AND OVER EMAIL.

I'M AN INCREDIBLY HOMESICK TECH WHO WANTS TO HELP ME IN ANY WAY I CAN.

UM, AND I'M HOPING AT SOME POINT TO, TO MAKE IT BACK TO AUSTIN AND, UM, MORE THAN JUST SEE GOLDEN SHE WARBLERS AGAIN.

UM, JUST BE MORE BOOTS IN THE GROUND HANDS ON WITH HELPING HOWEVER I CAN.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN TO, I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TIME FOR.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, LET'S START WITH THE REMOTE COMMISSIONERS.

UM, COMMISSIONER KRUEGER, YOUR PRESENTATION.

THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP ALMOST EVERY MEETING FOR US, SO I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE, UH, CONTEXT AND IDEAS FOR, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO DEVELOPERS ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS.

I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN GO TO, UM, SLIDE 15.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE GRAPH.

UM, THERE'S A RED LINE THAT SAYS TOTAL NUMBER OF BIRD ORDINANCES AND THEN BLUE BARS THAT SAY NUMBER OF BIRD ORDINANCES PASSED.

SO IS THE RED LINE THE NUMBER OF ORDINANCES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, BUT THEN ONLY THE BLUE LINE BLUE BARS, WHAT PASSED? SO THE, THE BLUE BARS ARE THE NUMBER OF CODES BEING PASSED ANNUALLY.

THE RED LINE IS THE CUMULATIVE COUNT THAT'S FILLING UP.

I SEE, I SEE.

THERE HAVE, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CODES.

UM, LIKE DETROIT LAST SPRING, UH, HAD PROPOSED A CODE, IT DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT TO A VOTE WITH CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT, UM, IT WAS CONTRARY TO THE STATE BUILDING CODE.

UM, SO IN 20, I THINK 21 MADISON, WISCONSIN WAS LEGALLY CHALLENGED BY ONE OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY LOBBYING GROUPS, UH, ON THE SAME GROUNDS.

AND THAT WAS UPHELD.

SO I SUSPECT THAT IF DETROIT DID ACTUALLY PUT IT TO A VOTE, IT WOULD BE FINE.

UM, BUT I'M SURE THEY WANT TO, TO CHEW ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE THEY OPEN THEMSELVES UP TO LEGAL RISK LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THOSE ARE JUST ONES THAT HAVE PASSED, BUT THERE, THERE ARE OTHERS IN THE WORKS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE THEM LATER.

GREAT.

UM, YOU REFERENCED A, A NEW YORK CITY LOCAL LAW FOR NEW BUILDINGS THAT YOU SAID COULD BE GOOD FOR US TO LOOK AT AND OF, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT YET, BUT I'M CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DO GO AND LOOK AT LAWS LIKE THAT, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANYTHING IN LIKE THE TEXAS LEGAL LANDSCAPE THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, TRIGGER SOMETHING AT THE STATE LEVEL? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AT THE CITY ENCOUNTER A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATURE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO PASS THINGS.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU HAVE A HANDLE ON YEAH.

STATE LAW THAT WE MIGHT ENCOUNTER.

YEAH.

FOR TEXAS, I'M NOT SURE.

UM, THE ONLY CHALLENGE IS, SO NEW YORK, ODDLY ENOUGH, UM, I THINK MADISON IS THE ONLY CODE THAT HAS BEEN, UH, LEGALLY CHALLENGED TWICE NOW.

UM, IT WAS UPHELD THE FIRST TIME, AND I THINK IT'S JUST SITTING AND STEWING THE SECOND TIME AROUND.

UM, NEW YORK'S CODE WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

AND

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I FEEL LIKE IF THERE WAS ANY PLACE WHERE THERE WAS GOING TO BE PUSHBACK FROM DEVELOPERS, NEW YORK CITY WOULD BE WHERE IT WOULD HAPPEN.

UM, I CAN SEE HOW TEXAS WOULD SEE THAT AS POTENTIAL OVERREACH.

MM-HMM.

, I KNOW PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA HAD PUSHED BACK, BUT IT MORE ON THE LIGHTING SIDE OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD THAT A 10:00 PM CURFEW OR TWO HOURS POST, UM, CLOSURE OF THE BUSINESS WAS WHEN LIGHTS NEEDED TO BE TURNED OUT.

UM, LIKE THAT WAS THE PART THAT WAS CITED AS BEING OFFENSIVE TO PEOPLE.

UM, INTERESTING.

BUT FOR TEXAS IN PARTICULAR, I HAVE NO IDEA.

MM-HMM.

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AND DO YOU HAVE, OR ONE OF THE RESOURCES YOU LISTED IN THE PRESENTATION, DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE NATURE OF THE ORDINANCES? BECAUSE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCES RELATED TO LIGHT LIKE YOU'RE BRINGING UP AND GLASS, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS THINKING ABOUT WHAT APPROACH WOULD BE EFFECTIVE, YOU KNOW, IN AUSTIN DOING IT PIECEMEAL, OR IS THERE A PREPONDERANCE OF DATA THAT SHOWS OKAY, THIS ONE TYPE OF ORDINANCE IS ESPECIALLY LIKELY TO PASS? THAT'S A REALLY EXCELLENT QUESTION.

UM,