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RIGHT.

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UH,

[CALL TO ORDER]

JULY 1:00 PM I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER.

OKAY.

WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GOULD AND, UH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, UH, ONLINE.

SO GOOD TO GO.

STEP, UH, PLEASE EMAIL.

I THINK I'VE TEXTED, UH, LAUREN, I THINK.

UH, BUT YEAH, PLEASE EMAIL, UH, SHELBY HERE, UH, ABOUT THE VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE SO IT GETS OFFICIALLY COUNTED.

UH, PLEASE DROP A NOTE.

ALREADY DONE.

ALREADY DONE.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, IF YOU COULD, PLEASE DO THE SAME.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, UM, WELL, WE HAVE LOST SOME, UM, SOME SIGNIFICANT FOLKS FROM THE AUSTIN FAMILY.

UH, UH, COMMISSIONER , COME ON IN.

UM, UH, DR. JAMES POLK, UM, K***Y FRIEDMAN.

UH, WE JUST ABOUT HEARD ABOUT MICHAEL CORCORAN, UM, AND SO JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THESE LOSSES AND, UH, PAY OUR RESPECTS.

UM, IF ANYBODY FROM THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, PLEASE FEEL FREE.

AND THEN, UH, WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA.

UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT MICHAEL CORCORAN, WHO IS A MUSIC CRITTER CRITIC AND MUSIC HISTORIAN IN AUSTIN.

UH, HE WROTE FOR THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, TEXAS MONTHLY, AND THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN, AS WELL AS BEING THE AUTHOR OF, UM, BOOKS ABOUT MUSIC IN TEXAS AND AUSTIN, AND SUCH A, A FORCE IN THAT HE REALLY HELPED ALL OF US IN AUSTIN UNDERSTAND HOW AMAZING IT WAS TO BE PART OF THIS MAGICAL MUSIC VORTEX THAT IS AUSTIN, TEXAS.

WHETHER YOU WERE A MUSICIAN OR WORKED IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS, OR JUST A FAN, YOU REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU WERE A PART OF SOMETHING THAT WAS EXTRAORDINARY.

AND, UM, CHAD, UH, ALSO A WRITER HERE IN AUSTIN CALLED ME THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE NEWS, AND I WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING THAT CHAD, UM, HAD TO SAY ABOUT MICHAEL.

HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE WRITERS EVER, AND ALWAYS TRUSTED HIS CONVICTION ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND LARGER FORCES THAT MADE GREAT MUSIC POSSIBLE, WHETHER THAT MUSIC WAS PUNK, GOSPEL, HOUSTON RAP, OR THE MUSIC HIS SON JACK STARTED MAKING IN RECENT YEARS.

MICHAEL WAS NEVER SHORT ON WORDS OF OPINIONS, BUT WOULD LISTEN AND ARGUE WHENEVER HE COULD IF HE WERE UP TO HIS METAL, WHICH WAS TOUGH.

AUSTIN LOST A TITAN TODAY AND A GOOD MAN WHO WAS A GREAT FRIEND TO MANY PEOPLE, TOO MANY PEOPLE TO COUNT.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU TO CHAD FOR SHARING THOSE BEAUTIFUL WORDS WITH US.

, UH, I ECHO IN CHARLOTTE AND CHAD'S, UM, THOUGHTS.

UH, WHEN I SAW IT, UM, FROM JACK, I WAS JUST TAKEN ABACK BECAUSE HE, MIKE CORCORAN WAS DEFINITELY THIS FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH, UM, A LOT OF POWERFUL MUSIC THAT PEOPLE IN AUSTIN FROM THE OLD SCHOOL.

AND HE IS SOMEONE THAT WAS CAPABLE OF MAKING THEM CRINGE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH HIS SHARP TONGUE AND, AND WORDS.

UM, BUT I WAS HONORED TO KNOW HIM.

I WAS HONORED TO WORK WITH HIS EX-WIFE, VICTORIA CORCORAN, AND TO KNOW WHAT A GREAT CO-PARENTING TEAM THEY WERE TO JACK AND, UM, TEXTED HER EARLIER.

AND, UM, DEFINITELY THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING.

UM, AND I'M, I'M SO GLAD THAT WE'RE TAKING THE TIME TO HONOR HIM AS, AS WELL AS, UM, JAMES POLK, WHAT A LEGEND, UM, IN AUSTIN AND, UM, WAS REALLY A MENTOR TO SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN.

SO, UM, UH, THIS IS A, A POWERFUL MOMENT.

AND, UM, WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT I, I WILL SAY THAT IT, IT DID NOT GO PAST ME THAT WE'RE GONNA SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM AND JUST RECOGNIZING, UM, IT'S BEEN KIND OF A BIT OF A THREAD IN OUR CONVERSATIONS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF MEMORIALIZING AND ARCHIVING, UM, TEXAS MUSIC HISTORY AND MAKING SPACE FOR THE INCREDIBLE JOURNALISTS AND WRITERS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL, TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB.

SO, THANK YOU.

UM, ANYONE ELSE? UH, COMMISSIONER PRICE? UH, YEAH, JUST TO ECHO THAT ON, ON BEHALF OF DR. JAMES POLK, UH, WHERE, WELL, I DIDN'T GET TO INTERFACE A LOT WITH HIM DIRECTLY.

I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH ED HARDIN, WHO WAS THE CO-FOUNDER OF HIS JAMES POLK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND TECHNOLOGY THROUGH MY ORGANIZATION, NOTES FOR NOTES.

AND THE YOUTH THAT CAME THERE JUST CAME WITH

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THIS, THIS SPECIAL SET OF THIS SPECIAL SKILL SET THAT YOU COULD TELL THAT THEY WERE REALLY LEARNING FROM MASTERS OF THE CRAFT LEGENDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, JAMES, DR. JAMES POLK WAS A LEGENDARY JAZZ PIANIST, DE DEDICATED EDUCATOR CHAMPION FOR YOUNG ARTISTS, WHICH BELIEVE WE, MANY OF US, NOT ALL OF US, SHARE THAT SENTIMENT.

UM, MUSICAL DIRECTOR FOR RAY CHARLES, AND THEN ALSO CO-FOUNDED THE AUSTIN JAZZ SOCIETY.

SO, UM, BIG, BIG LOST IN AUSTIN, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY NEVER FORGOTTEN AND IMMORTALIZED IN AUSTIN'S DNA HERE.

SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PRICE.

UH, ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? AND I'LL JUST SAY AND MENTION ABOUT K***Y FRIEDMAN AS WELL.

I THINK WE USE THE TERMS ICONIC AND LARGER THAN LIFE, THAT GETS THROWN AROUND A LOT.

BUT, UM, HE'S TRULY EMBODIES THOSE TWO TERMS. UM, DEFINITELY A LARGER THAN LIFE TEXAN WRITER, MUSICIAN.

UM, FUNNY, IRREVERENT, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO JUST A BIT ANOTHER LOSS TO OUR, UH, TEXAS MUSIC SCENE.

THANK YOU, AL.

UH, UH, ALSO WANNA THANK YOU, UH, I'LL, I'LL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU.

PLEASE GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, UH, COUPLE, TWO THINGS.

UH, NUMBER ONE, UH, CHURCH ON MONDAY, UH, WHICH IS, UH, ONE OF THE BANDS THAT JAMES POLK WAS, WAS A PART OF AT THE CONTINENTAL GALLERY, WAS MY FIRST SHOW.

REMEMBER WHEN I CAME TO AUSTIN, AND I JUST REMEMBER SEEING THAT BAND.

IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE, UH, TAMIKA JONES WAS SET PLAY WHEN SHE HAD A RESIDENCY AT THE GALLERY FOLLOWING, UM, UH, CHURCH ON MONDAY.

UH, OH.

IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY AMAZING, UH, PERFORMANCE.

I JUST, I KNEW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT AUSTIN THAT I HADN'T THAT, THAT I HADN'T SEEN ANYWHERE ELSE, UM, WATCHING, WATCHING THEM PERFORM.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I DO WANNA SAY IS THAT, UH, UH, TIM CURRY IS A HIP HOP ARTIST, AND HE ALSO, UH, JUST RECENTLY PASSED AS WELL.

SO, UM, JUST WANNA, UH, GIVE, SAY, EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES, OUR CONDOLENCES ON BEHALF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, FOR MR. CURRY'S PASSING TOO.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UM,

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

UH, DR.

FOGY, DID YOU, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK AS PART OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, OR, UH, YEAH, YEAH, BUT IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S JUST BEEN A, A BAD TIME LATELY, RIGHT.

WE, WE HAD A WONDERFUL, UM, UH, UH, PROGRAM FOR WC CLARKE, AND THAT WAS, UH, A BAD ONE.

BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW MICHAEL DUKE AT HIS BOOKS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE SO MUCH TOGETHER, LOTS OF MY PROTOTYPE , YOU KNOW, IN MICHAEL'S BOOKS AND STUFF, AND A LOT OF STUFF FROM THE MUSEUM.

OF COURSE, HE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR US.

WE HAVE A, A BEAUTIFUL SIGN FROM MARLIN, TEXAS.

HE WENT THERE, UH, TO LOOK FOR, UH, UM, BLIND WILLIE JOHNSON AND, UH, AND WASHINGTON PHILLIPS, UH, FROM MARLIN.

AND HE BROUGHT BACK THE ONLY PICTURE THAT EXISTS NOW OF WASHINGTON PHILLIPS.

HE FOUND A LADY WHO HAD ONE.

I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF COOL, BUT HE BROUGHT, FOUND A LADY WHO HAD THE SIGN FROM THE, THE, THE, THE CANTINA THAT WHERE BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE USED TO, UH, PERFORM YEARS AGO.

AND THAT HAD GOT TORE DOWN, BUT A LADY KEPT IT.

AND IF YOU COME IN, ONE OF OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS', HUSBANDS, IT'S, UH, PRESERVED REALLY NICE, AND IT'S ON THE WALL, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S .

CAN MICHAEL, UM, ALSO, UH, WOW.

ANYWAY, SO I I'M SORRY, THAT KIND OF, I MEAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.

'CAUSE I, HE WAS, HE JUST CALLED ME AND HE SAID, HEY, CLAY, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE VIDEO OVER IN AT YOUR PLACE AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING ELSE.

WOW.

UH, AND JAMES SPOKE.

JAMES IS SUCH A GOOD FRIEND.

UH, IT'S SO WEIRD.

I KEPT CALLING JAMES BECAUSE, UH, UH, JAY HERE'S DOING A, DID A, WORKING ON A, A INSTAGRAM, UH, ABOUT HIM.

AND, AND HE WASN'T ANSWERING HIS PHONE.

SO I WENT OVER, I'D SAY THAT TWO WEEKS AGO, I WENT OVER TO JAMES HOUSE AND HIS GRANDSON WAS THE ONLY GREAT GRANDSON, WAS THE ONLY ONE THERE.

AND HE SAID, OH, YEAH, JAMES UP HERE.

AND I WENT UP, AND OF COURSE, HE WAS LAYING

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IN BED.

AND, BUT CLAY, HE REMEMBERED ME, .

AND, UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT AND TOOK HIS HAND AND STUFF.

AND I, UH, AGAIN, I SAID, I SAID, WELL, MAYBE I SHOULD TALK TO HIS WIFE.

AND I WENT DOWN, AND OF COURSE, IT'S ONE OF THOSE HOUSES WHERE YOU GROW UP AND DOWN.

I WENT DOWN AND SHE, SHE'S VERY BAD.

SHE COULDN'T TALK TO ME.

AND, UH, THAT'S WOW.

UH, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA DO A, UM, A, UH, MEMORIAL, YOU KNOW, FOR JAMES HOKE SOON.

I GUESS WHAT ONE FOR MICHAEL TOO? MICHAEL WAS, WOW.

HE WAS SUCH A GOOD, SUCH A PART OF OUR , YOU KNOW, PART OF, UH, TEXAS MUSIC HISTORY.

YEAH.

LIKE YOU SAID, ALL THE BOOKS.

ANYWAY, I'M GLAD YOU, LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I KIND OF LIKE ALMOST OUTTA BREATH OF HEARING ABOUT, UH, MICHAEL, THAT I, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.

THANK YOU, .

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DR.

SHARKEY.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, ZACH REGER FROM THE MUSEUM OF, UH, HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT.

THANK YOU.

I'M ZACH.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OVER AT THE MUSEUM OF HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT.

WE'VE BEEN AROUND 12 YEARS.

WE'RE GROUNDED IN PORTABILITY, INCLUSIVITY, AND ACCESS FOR ARTISTS.

UM, I'M GONNA SHARE A LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND, BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL INFORM, UH, WHEN I SAY FANCY NONPROFIT THINGS.

MY BACKGROUND PRIOR TO THIS WAS AS A PIANO TEACHER, UM, AS AN ORGANIZER, AS A JINGLE WRITER, AS A FILM COMPOSER.

I TOURED INTERNATIONALLY, UM, ONE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, I THINK 2016.

I PLAYED 20 SHOWS IN FIVE DAYS.

ONE OF THEM WAS AT WENDY'S.

SO I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN AN ETHOS OF HELPING ONE ANOTHER.

AND IN EDUCATION, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND HERE COMES THE NONPROFIT WORDS IN OUR PROGRAMS OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND FISCAL SPONSORSHIP IS WE'VE BEEN HAVING THESE GRANT, UH, HANGOUTS WHERE WE'RE INVITING MUSICIANS, ARTISTS, ORGANIZERS IN, WE ARE SHARING, WE, UH, CERTAINLY HAVE SNACKS AND MUSIC.

AND THE IDEA IS THAT WITH SOLIDARITY AND WITH, UM, FRIENDSHIP, THAT WE'RE HELPING FOLKS NAVIGATE RESOURCES.

SO THE, THE OUTCOME OF THIS WORK, UH, IN 2023, ACROSS A SERIES OF 20 WORKSHOPS, UH, ABOUT, UH, $1.4 MILLION WAS AWARDED TO PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THESE WORKSHOPS.

AMONGST THOSE ATTENDEES, 80% WERE FIRST TIME APPLICANTS.

THIS IS WORK WE REALLY BELIEVE IN.

WE INTEND TO KEEP DOING IT.

UM, WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY PARTNER WITH COMMISSION OR STAFF, UM, BUT I'M JUST LETTING Y'ALL KNOW, UH, THERE, IT'S GOOD VIBES.

PLEASE COME AT SOME POINT.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU.

MOVING

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ON TO APPROVAL OF, UH, MINUTES.

UM, IF EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, UH, PLEASE, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DAVILA, UH, SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

ALL IN FAVOR.

WE 4, 5, 6.

OKAY.

WELL, UH, WE HAVE, UH, ONE ABSTAIN AND, UH, UH, THE REST OF THE COMMISSION IS VOTED IN FAVOR.

MOTION PASSES.

[2. Presentation on musical performance by Peter Stopschinski, Music Commission Live Performance participant and Shelbi Mitchell, Program Coordinator, Music & Entertainment Divisio]

UM, MOVING ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS.

UH, THE FIRST AGENDA IS PRESENTATION ON MUSICAL PERFORMANCE BY, UH, UH, PETER KY, MUSIC COMMISSION, LIVE PERFORMANCE PARTICIPANT.

AND SHELBY MICHELLE, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

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WELL, I AM SO THRILLED THAT WE CAN DO THIS.

UM, YEAH, .

GOSH.

AND, UM, UM, SHELBY, WOULD YOU, UM, UH, WOULD YOU MIND SHARING LIKE ABSOLUTELY, WHOSE, WHOSE RECOMMENDATION THIS WAS, AND A LITTLE MORE, BIT MORE ABOUT THE ARTIST? SO THIS IS ARM MAYOR APPOINTEES, UM, NOMINATION.

AND I WAS REALLY, YEAH, LOTS OF DISCOVERY HERE.

SO HE, YEAH.

PRACTICES, CLASSICAL AND NOISE MUSIC, WHICH IS THE LAST PIECE IS WHAT YOU SAW AN EXPRESSION OF USING NOISE, QUITE FRANKLY, TO MOVE THROUGH DIFFERENT EMOTIONS.

AND SO THIS IS SUCH A TREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING PETER WITH US.

AND JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL, WE STILL HAVE DAVILA.

LEMME JUST GO AHEAD AND POINT YOUR DAVILA NELSON, DID I EVER GET A, OKAY, WE STILL HAVE SOME ARTISTS THAT WE NEED TO FILL.

I JUST WANNA LINE 'EM UP BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING SO QUICKLY.

JUST SHOT FINGER PISTOL STILL, AND WE GOT YOU.

I GOT YOU.

BUT WE JUST SHOT FINGER PISTOL AND OTIS, UH, THE DESTROYER, THANK YOU, TAMMY AND, AND CHARLOTTE FOR SO MUCH FOR SENDING THOSE ARTISTS.

BUT WE HAVE NO RAY AND DON'T NEED Y'ALL'S NOMINEES.

SO THIS IS, THIS IS GOING REALLY GOOD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF VIDEOS LINED UP, AND LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S STILL AN INTERVIEW.

IT'S STILL A WHOLE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE TO FINISH THAT WILL RE-AIR IN THE FALL.

BUT FOR NOW, WE HAVE THESE PERFORMANCES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SOUND SYSTEM IN HERE JUST DOESN'T QUITE MOVE, LIKE THE ONE, UM, ACROSS IN THE DIETS, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE GOT GOING ON.

SORRY, MY MIND IS A BLUR, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, PETER KY YES, COMMISSIONER ADA, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

UM, SO HONORED TO CALL, UH, PETER A FRIEND, AND ACTUALLY, UH, HE'S KIND OF, IN MY OPINION, A BIT OF A LEGEND IN AUSTIN.

HE'S ONE OF THOSE MUSICIANS THAT'S BEEN IN THE NEW YORK TIMES.

UM, HE ALSO PERFORMS IN MONEY CHICHA.

UH, HE IS AN AMAZING, UM, COMPOSER.

UH, WORKS WITH VALE AUSTIN, WORKED WITH IN THE PAST GRAHAM REYNOLDS.

UM, AND, UH, IT, IT'S, SO FEELS LIKE

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OLD SCHOOL AUSTIN, BUT HE IS ALSO MY NEIGHBOR.

HE, HE LIVED THIS, HE'S WONDERFUL.

MY NEIGHBOR SINCE 2004.

SO 20 YEARS.

WE'VE LIVED RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN BOTH SOUTH AUSTIN.

SO, UM, SO HONORED TO HAVE THIS IMMENSE TALENT IN AUSTIN ALONG WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE DO WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH THIS INCREDIBLE, UM, PLETHORA OF INSANELY TALENTED MUSICIANS IN AUSTIN.

SO, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, SHELBY.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, SHELBY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ADA.

YEAH, AND IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE A TREAT FOR ME.

UH, USUALLY WE ARE GETTING SINGER MOST OF THE TIMES FOR BAND.

YEAH.

SO, UH, SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

ANYONE ELSE? UH, UH, I GOT A CHANCE TO, UH, UH, I WAS ALMOST GONNA WORK WITH PETER, BUT THEN HE RECOMMENDED A ACTUALLY MUTUAL FRIEND OF OURS, UH, ANDY, TY.

SO ME AND PETER, WE DIDN'T GET TO WORK TOGETHER.

IT WAS FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR SHOW A FEW YEARS BACK.

BUT WE TALKED FOR LIKE THREE HOURS ON THE PHONE, I REMEMBER.

AND THEN, AND IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT CONVERSATION.

JUST, SHE WAS LIKE THIS SECOND PETE KNOWLEDGE OF MUSIC, AND IT WAS GREAT.

IT WAS FANTASTIC.

SO, YEAH, GREAT PERFORMANCE AND THANK YOU TO LIST FOR BRINGING WONDERFUL, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UM,

[3. Live Music Fund collections update by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department. ]

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, UPDATE BY KIM MACARON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, EDD.

THANK YOU, KIM.

HELLO, EVERYBODY.

UH, KIM MACARON PROGRAM.

UH, SO I AM GIVING YOU THE, UM, THE UPDATED VERSION OF WHAT I ALWAYS GIVE, UH, EVERY MEETING.

AND THAT'S THE HOT COLLECTIONS, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TAX COLLECTIONS, AND THANKS.

UM, SO LET'S SEE.

GO.

IS THIS THE, THE, THIS ISN'T THE PDF.

OH, THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO, UM, FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, WE, UH, LET'S SEE, $334,088 WAS COLLECTED IN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

AND THAT GIVES US, TO DATE, 3,000,210, UH, THOUSAND 407 IN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TOTAL TO DATE THROUGH MAY.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LAG.

SO THE MAY ARE THE LATEST NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

SO IF YOU CAN COMPARE THE LITTLE, UM, SORT OF REDDISH BROWN BOX THERE AT THE TOP, THAT'S MAY, UM, THE ONE ON, ON YOUR RIGHT IS THIS YEAR.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT IS LAST YEAR.

AND THEY'RE ON, THEY'RE JUST A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS DIFFERENT.

SO IT'S ABOUT THE SAME.

AND THAT'S REALLY IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANKS, EVERYBODY.

I, I DO THINK THAT WE'RE HAVING A EXTREMELY BUSY, ODDLY BUSY SUMMER, SO I, I DON'T ANTICIPATE MUCH DIP LIKE COMING OUT AS, AS WE GO ON.

IT'S GONNA, ARE YOU EXPECTING A BETTER THAN USUAL SUMMARY SET? WHAT YOU SUGGEST? I THINK SO.

I'M, I'M JUST GONNA FORECAST IT.

I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA , I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M PUTTING A STAKE ON IT.

I AM.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KIM? THANK YOU.

MOVING ON.

UM,

[4. Update on the FY24 Austin Live Music Fund by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment Division.]

UPDATE ON THE FI 24 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, BARIKA CHA, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

THANK YOU, ERICA.

HELLO? UM, ROUND TWO.

DONE.

UM, YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE.

YES.

SO, HELLO EVERYONE.

ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.

AND I JUST HAVE TO SA LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, UH, PETER S'S PRAISES.

I GREW UP WITH HIM SINCE PRESCHOOL.

WOW.

WE WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL CHOIR TOGETHER, BIG NERDS TOGETHER.

UM, AND HE WAS IN A PUNK RAP PUNK ROCK BAND CALLED, UH, BROWN HORNET AS WELL.

THAT WAS QUITE GOOD.

SO ANYWAY, SO THIS HAS BEEN FULL CIRCLE WITH QUIRKY, UH, NEWS OF HIS PASSING.

IT'S JUST A REALLY SAD DAY FOR AUSTIN.

NOT ONLY MUSIC, BUT FILM QUIRKY WAS PART OF EVERY PART THAT I'VE BEEN PART OF AUSTIN.

IT'S REALLY SAD NEWS.

AND, UM, AND WITH JAMES POLK AS WELL, IT'S JUST BEEN AN INTERESTING, WEIRD, UH, EMOTIONAL WEEK HERE IN AUSTIN.

SO, BUT TO HAVE PETER PLAY THAT BEAUTIFUL MUSIC, WHICH ALSO KIND OF REMINDS ME OF OUR SOUL AND WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU CELESTE AND SHELBY FOR COORDINATING.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

SO, TO WHAT YOU KNOW IS SOME GOOD NEWS, UH, THE 2024 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND UPDATE, WE CLOSED THE GRANT ON JUNE 18TH.

AND I HAVE TO SAY IT WAS A AMAZING RESPONSE, UM, TO THE, THAT THIS IS WHAT KIM HAD TO DEAL WITH.

WHAT, WHICH ONE DO I DO? I KNOW IT'S NOT ANYTHING THING.

SO WE TOTALLY EXPANDED HOW MANY APPLICATIONS

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THAT WE HAVE.

IT WAS OVER A THOUSAND, 1020 APPLICATIONS.

THAT'S IN COMPARISON TO, I THINK IT WAS 630 LAST YEAR.

SO THAT IS A PRETTY AMAZING INCREASE, UH, WHICH SAYS A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SPREADING THE WORD US REALLY, YOU KNOW, LEARNING OUR LESSONS FROM LAST YEAR AND DOING THIS YEAR DIFFERENTLY IS SO THAT WE COULD REALLY REACH MORE PEOPLE.

AND, UH, SO OF ALL OF THAT, WE HAD, UM, 1014 APPLICATIONS IN ENGLISH, SIX IN SPANISH.

AND SO YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE BETWEEN ALL THE DIFFERENT ELIGIBILITY CATEGORIES, INCLUDING, UH, INCLUDING LIVE MUSIC VENUES, WHICH WAS A VERY FIRST YEAR THAT LIVE MUSIC VENUES WERE INCLUDED.

AND 77 IS AN AMAZING NUMBER.

LEMME JUST TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, UM, FOR AUSTIN.

AND THAT I, THAT'S A CONSISTENT NUMBER I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS THAT SHOWS THAT WHEN THINGS ARE CLOSING, THINGS ARE OPENING UP AS WELL.

I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE ABOUT ELIGIBILITY AROUND ALL OF THOSE VENUES.

UH, IT IS AN EDUCATION EXPERIENCE IF YOU DON'T QUITE FIT THE DEFINITION.

BUT IT'S ALSO AN EDUCATION EXPERIENCE FOR US OF LIKE HOW MANY ACTUAL, UH, LIVE MUSIC VENUES ARE OUT THERE.

AND THAT FITS PERFECTLY WITH MATT'S PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE COMING UP.

SO, UH, IN SPANISH WE HAD FIVE PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AND ONE INDEPENDENT PROMOTER.

AND WE'LL BE SERVICING ALL THOSE SPANISH LANGUAGE APPLICATIONS, UH, IN SPANISH, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS CAN'T BE IN SPANISH BECAUSE IT'S TEXAS.

AND, UH, PART OF THE TEXAS STATE LAW IS THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IN ENGLISH.

BUT WE'LL WORK WITH EVERYONE TO BE SURE THAT ALL THOSE CONTRACTS ARE, ARE MET AND THAT ARE UNDERSTOOD.

SO, ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS WHAT WE DID TO GET US TO 1012 APPLICATIONS.

AND, UH, WE HAD A REALLY DYNAMIC, WONDERFUL GROUP OF PEOPLE, UM, OF APPLICANTS, YOU KNOW, COME TO ALMOST ALL OF THESE THINGS AND ASK QUESTIONS OR JUST SIT THERE AND LISTEN.

SO WE HAD TWO VIRTUAL WORKSHOPS AND Q AND A SESSIONS THAT WERE LIVE.

THEY WENT UP TO TWO HOURS, OVER TWO HOURS.

WE RECORDED THEM AND, AND MADE THEM AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

WE ALSO HAD TWO VIRTUAL OPEN OFFICE HOURS WHERE PEOPLE JUST COULD SHOW UP AND ASK QUESTIONS.

IT WAS VERY GOOD.

IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH EVERYBODY.

AND THEN THIS YEAR, FOR THE FIRST TIME, CREATE, AUSTIN WAS OUR FIRST POINT OF CONTACT FOR APPLICATION HELP.

SO THE VERY FIRST, UH, DIVE INTO THE APPLICATION, ANY KIND OF HELP WAS THEM.

THEY WOULD LOG IT, THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, SEND IT OVER TO US IF THEY DIDN'T UNDER, IF THEY COULDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, GUIDELINES AND, AND, AND APPLICATION QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE.

THEY ALSO HAD A DIFFERENT CONNECTION FOR JUST OUR TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR OUR NEW GRANT SYSTEM THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, WE DIDN'T, I HAVE TO SAY IT WAS VERY GOOD.

WE DIDN'T HAVE MANY TECHNICAL ISSUES.

MOSTLY HAD TO DO WITH LIKE, OUT-OF-DATE BROWSERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, SO THERE WAS ALSO A CREATE AUSTIN AT THE LONG CENTER WEBPAGE, AND THAT'S, UM, A SEPARATE WEBPAGE THAT HELPED WITH SUBMITTABLE HELP, JUST INFORMATION ABOUT THE GRANT.

UM, THAT WAS IN TANDEM WITH WHAT WE WERE PROVIDING WITH THE CITY.

AND THEN WE, OUR SECTION OF FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON THE WEBSITE EXPANDED WEEK TO WEEK.

IT STARTED WITH ABOUT 20 FROM LAST YEAR.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE ENDED UP WITH, BUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASKED TWICE, WE PUT IT ON THAT LIST SO THAT EVERYONE HAD ACCESS TO THE ANSWERS THAT WE WERE PROVIDING IN THOSE ADDITIONAL, IN THOSE EVENTS.

I LISTED AT THE BEGINNING, THE NEXT ONE.

THERE WE GO.

SO, NEXT STEPS.

SO ONE THING WE'VE BEEN HEARING, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I SEE MY SCORE.

OH MY GOD.

LIKE THAT'S NOT YOUR SCORE.

AND SO THIS IS JUST A FUNCTION OF SUBMITTABLE, THE GRANT SYSTEM.

IT'S JUST A PRELIMINARY COUNTING.

LIKE IF YOU DID A MULTIPLE CHOICE, THERE WAS A SCORING IN THE BACKEND THAT AUTOMATICALLY ASSIGNED POINTS, AND THAT WASN'T ALL THE POINTS THAT WERE ASSIGNED IN THE ENTIRE GRANT.

AND ALSO, FIRST WE HAVE TO DO ELIGIBILITY.

WE HAVE TO BE SURE YOU'RE ELIGIBLE TO, UH, EVEN BE SCORED.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SHOW US EVIDENCE FOR ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE CHOICE ANSWERS AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS.

SO THEY ARE DOING ALL OF THAT WORK NOW TO VERIFY ELIGIBILITY AND VERIFY THE ANSWERS, UH, WITH THE EVIDENCE.

AND SO NOBODY'S, UH, SCORE IS FINAL.

NO ONE CAN SEE THEIR FINAL SCORE THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL APPLICANTS LATER IN THE SUMMER, UH, WHERE WE WILL LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

UM, SO JUST REMEMBER THE ELIGIBILITY VERIFICATION IS SEPARATE FROM SCORING.

'CAUSE YOU CAN'T EVEN GET SCORED UNTIL YOU'VE BEEN VERIFIED AS ELIGIBLE.

UH, AND THAT'S IT.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IKA.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ANY FIRST THOUGHTS FROM, UH, THE ROLLOUT? UH, AND IF ANYBODY ACTUALLY FILLED THE APPLICATION? I HAVE A, JUST A COMMENT, JUST A SMALL NUMBER.

APPLICATIONS IN SPANISH THAT WAS INTERESTING.

I WONDER IF WE'RE THE OUTREACH FOR, WE HAD A LOT OF ACTUALLY THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, UM,

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OUTREACH MEETINGS.

MM-HMM.

WE HAD A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WERE BILINGUAL AND THEY DECIDED TO APPLY IN ENGLISH, ALTHOUGH THEY COULD HAVE APPLIED IN SPANISH OR ENGLISH.

RIGHT.

AND THEN WE HAD SIX THAT WE MADE, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDED HELP TO MM-HMM.

APPLY IN SPANISH.

RIGHT.

AND SO WE HAD TWO PEOPLE AT THE LONG CENTER THAT COULD HELP IN THAT WAY THAT ARE FLUENT.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE'RE VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY BILINGUAL CITIES.

SO MOST FOLKS DID IN ENGLISH, BUT THAT DOESN'T REPRESENT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHO COULD, WHO DOES SPEAK SPANISH ALSO.

RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SADE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

STAFF AND TEAM.

THAT'S AMAZING.

GREAT.

GREAT JOB.

I KNOW IT'S A HUGE LIFT AND THE WORK IS PAID OFF BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SO MANY MORE APPLICANTS.

SO WELL DONE.

WE'RE SO HAPPY AND PLEASED WITH YOUR WORK IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

WHAT'S A SHAME IS THAT WE'RE THINK OF OVER A THOUSAND APPLICANTS, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE AROUND 135 TO 50 AWARDEES.

YEAH.

THAT'S REALLY TOUGH.

YEAH.

BUT WHAT THAT DOES SHOW IS THE NEED, WHAT IS OUT THERE, WHO'S OUT THERE, AND HOW MUCH MONEY TRULY IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT OUR ECONOMY, OUR MUSIC ECONOMY, AND TO GROW IT.

SO THIS GIVES THE DATA THAT WE NEED.

WE WISH WE COULD FUND EVERYBODY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE WON'T BE ABLE TO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE STAGGERING IT EVERY TWO YEARS, SO THAT IF YOU DIDN'T GET FUNDED THIS YEAR, YOU CAN TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR WHILE THE FOLKS WHO DID GET FUNDED CAN'T THEY HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS.

SO WE'LL TRY TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THE ODDS AS YOU GO FORWARD.

'CAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST PLAY, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT.

WHAT WAS THE NUMBER LAST YEAR COMPARED? I THINK IT WAS AROUND 636 APPLICATIONS AND ALL I 600 SOMETHING.

WOW.

YEAH.

SIX 60, I THINK, RIGHT? I MEAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

POSSIBLY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE HAVE 6 0 3.

YEAH.

AND THERE WAS NO VENUES.

IT WAS ALL PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS.

YEAH.

AND I'LL GET RIGHT TO YOU AFTER THAT.

WELL, PERHAPS, UM, FOR THOSE THAT YOU KNOW, WILL NOT BE SELECTED, THIS GO ROUND, I MEAN, ALL THAT HARD WORK, PERHAPS THEY CAN USE IT FOR THE OTHER GRANTS THAT EXIST, WHETHER IT'S TEXAS COMMISSION ON THE ARTS, OR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING JUST KIND OF GETTING THE WHEELS TURNING FOR LIKE NATIONAL GRANTS WHERE CERTAIN GENRES MAY BE MORE GENRE SPECIFIC.

MM-HMM.

OR WHATEVER.

BUT HOPEFULLY IT WON'T ALL BE IN VAIN.

AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ARTICULATED THEIR THOUGHTS OR THEIR PROJECTS AND IT CAN BE REPURPOSED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

YEAH.

AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPLY FOR THE NEXT PROGRAMS. WE'VE MADE IT FOR THE, THE FIRST NEXUS ROUND MISSED OUT ON THIS.

BUT THE REST OF THE ROUNDS, THERE'S GONNA BE A FINAL DECISION DATE IN LATE SEPTEMBER WHERE YOU CAN APPLY FOR EVERYTHING, FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED, AND DECIDE WHICH ONE YOU WANNA TAKE.

YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE TWO.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO JUST FOR THIS YEAR.

OUR GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR IS TO ROLL IT OUT IN SUCH A WAY WHERE YOU'LL KNOW ALREADY BEFORE YOU HAVE TO APPLY AGAIN.

UH, IT WAS JUST MORE OF A SQUINCHED IN TIMING THIS YEAR, SO WE COULDN'T DO THAT, BUT WE CAN DO THAT.

SO PLEASE APPLY FOR ELEVATE OR THRIVE OR THE SECOND ROUND OF NEXUS IF YOU QUALIFY, IF YOU'RE ELIGIBLE, UH, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF EVERY OPPORTUNITY.

COMMISSIONER ENTAL, ANY THOUGHTS OR OBSERVATIONS ABOUT WORKING AND PARTNERING WITH THE LONG CENTER AS PART OF THIS PROCESS? YEAH, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY GOOD .

YOU KNOW, THEY JUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO QUICKLY, HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE QUICKLY AND DO WHAT WE NEEDED THEM TO DO.

SO CERTAINLY AS THE MANAGER OF THAT CONTRACT OF LIKE, WHAT ARE WE HIRING THEM TO DO, THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S BEEN GREAT.

IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS FOR ALL OF US.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN A CONTRACT LIKE THIS WITH THE CITY FOR A THIRD PARTY FOR CULTURAL ARTS AND, UH, CULTURAL FUNDING.

AND SO IT'S BEEN, BUT A VERY, YOU KNOW, GOOD PROCESS AS YOU CAN SEE FROM YEAR TO YEAR, HOW MUCH IMPROVED IT IS.

UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT OTHER TOOLS AND WE'RE ALL LEARNING AS WE GO TO MAKE IT BETTER AND BETTER.

AND SO CERTAINLY IT'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.

CAN WE STRICKLAND? YES.

A QUESTION.

UM, SO FIRST OFF, THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

LIKE THE, I I FILLED OUT MY APPLICATION AND I PUT IT IN, I THINK IT WAS LIKE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR HOURS.

MM-HMM.

BEFORE THE DEADLINE.

I WAS LIKE IN LONDON DOING THAT IN THE HOTEL, AND IT WAS NOTHING CRASHED.

IT WAS AWESOME.

GREAT.

SO, UM, HATS OFF TO YOU ALL AND THE TEAM.

AND ALSO THERE WERE A FEW TIMES WHERE I TOTALLY FORGOT TO SAVE MY APPLICATION AND IT WAS ACTUALLY ALREADY SAVED.

YEAH.

IT, IT, IT UPDATED ITSELF VERY OFTEN.

SO EVERY 30 SECONDS.

EVERY 30.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

UM, QUESTION ON ELIGIBILITIES FROM, IF SO, SOMEONE WAS AWARDED THE BLAST, THE FIRST LIFE MUSIC FUND GRANT, THEY COULD APPLY FOR THIS ONE, SO OH, YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND POSSIBLY GET IT.

YEAH.

THEY JUST DON'T GET THE EXTRA POINTS FOR NEVER RECEIVING THE FUND BEFORE.

RIGHT.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

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AND I THINK I FORGOT WHAT THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH, WHILE YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.

SO THERE WAS A, WAS THERE A 15 15 15 POINTS, OR 30 OR 15 POINTS? 15 POINTS CUT IF, OR, OR, OR SOMEBODY WHO APPLIED LAST YEAR AND GOT THE GRANT WOULD NOT GET AN ADDITIONAL CUT.

IT'S, THEY WOULDN'T GET 15 POINTS THOUGH.

THEY JUST WOULDN'T GET ADDITIONAL POINTS.

YES.

15 ADDITIONAL POINTS THOUGH.

15.

SOMEBODY WOULD, OR LET'S PUT IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T GET THE GRANT LAST YEAR AND APPLIED FOR THE, THIS TIME THEY HAD 15 POINTS AGAIN, THEY GET 15 POINTS FOR THAT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND IT'LL BE THE SAME FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA DO THE BEST WE CAN BY BOTH STAGGERING THE TERMS LIKE THAT STAGGERING HOW IF YOU DO GET AWARDED, BUT ALSO IF YOU GET EXTRA POINTS IF YOU ARE AWARDED, IF I MAY.

SO IF SOMEBODY GETS A GRANT THIS YEAR, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY CAN'T APPLY FOR NEXT YEAR, NEXT YEAR ANYMORE, RIGHT? NO, THEY CANNOT APPLY.

BUT ARE YOU SAYING LIKE THE YEAR AFTER, THE YEAR AFTER, IF THEY APPLY, THEY WILL STILL, THIS 15 POINTS WOULD STILL APPLY.

YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S, IF, IF YOU LOOK STATISTICALLY AGAIN, OVER A THOUSAND APPLICANTS, THERE'S JUST NO WAY WE'VE AWARDED THEM ALL.

SO OF COURSE I THINK THERE'S OVER A TIME, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WITH GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW? YES.

OF COURSE.

A YEAR, AN HOUR OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW OF LIKE, WHEN DOES THIS NOT COUNT ANYMORE? 'CAUSE EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S KIND OF HOPEFULLY GOTTEN CYCLED THROUGH AND GOTTEN A GRANT OR SOME KIND OF SUPPORT.

SO, BUT WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT NOT YET POINTS LIKE TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE LINE.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

COMMISSIONER, DID YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, UH, FURTHER THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS? I, I THINK THIS IS A, A MUCH BROADER THOUGHT, BUT WE HAVE, UM, 1% BASICALLY OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES GAVE US ACCESS TO AND ALLOW TO HAVE ABOUT SIX GRANTS BETWEEN, UH, COMMISSION, I MEAN FROM ARTS AND MUSIC.

AND WE HAVE ALSO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THAT'S LIKE ONE THAT I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, AND I'M, I MEAN, I HAVE NO BANDWIDTH FOR THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW IT IS THAT WE COULD EXPAND, UH, THE HOT BUDGET, THE POT.

WELL, SO THERE WILL BE A, AN ELEVATED BUDGET FOR, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW.

IT'S NOW A TWO YEAR BUDGET CYCLE.

AND SO THE BUDGET WILL GO UP BY, YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS NEXT YEAR.

AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL HOLD FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THEN WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

RIGHT.

SO WE'LL DO AN INCREMENTAL, YOU KNOW, UNLESS, LIKE, IF, IF YOUR PREDICTION COMES TRUE AND WE JUST KILL IT THIS SUMMER, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, GRAB THAT MONEY DOWN THE LINE, BUT NOT QUITE YET BECAUSE SURE.

RIGHT.

WE WANNA BE CONSERVATIVE.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP, UH, SOME MONEY IN THE TILL SO THAT MM-HMM.

WHAT HAPPENED AT COVID NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.

RIGHT.

UH, SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A FUND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LONG, LONG TIME, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT.

UH, JUST A QUICK, UM, DETOUR HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD, UH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH, UH, IS, IS THE AUDIO FINE RIGHT NOW FOR YOU? UH, SHE HAD JUST MENTIONED SOMETIME BACK THAT, UH, IT WAS CUTTING ON AND OFF ONLINE FOR THEM.

UH, YOU'RE ON MUTE OR WE CAN'T HEAR YOU? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SORRY.

IT AUTOMATICALLY USED A DIFFERENT MICROPHONE.

UM, YEAH, IT WAS JUST DURING PETER'S PERFORMANCE, UNFORTUNATELY.

GO, UH, I DON'T KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, IF IT WAS THAT WAY ON YOUR END TOO.

YEAH, JUST, JUST FYI FOR AV FOLKS ONLINE.

THE AUDIO WAS CUTTING IN AND OUT DURING OKAY.

IT'S FINE HEARING THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION.

IT'S FINE.

YES.

OKAY.

YES.

YEAH, SO THANK YOU.

I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA ASK, I DIDN'T WANNA HOLD UP THE MEETING, BUT I WAS GONNA ASK, IT WAS THE WEBEX, IF YOU'RE ON WEBEX, IT COMES THROUGH DISTORTED, UNFORTUNATELY.

OKAY.

SO MY SUGGESTION IS TO MUTE IT AND WATCH IT ON YOUR PHONE ON, OKAY.

UH, WATCH A TXN, AND SO YOU CAN WATCH IT IN REAL TIME WITH GREAT SOUND, BUT THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE THING THAT ABOUT WEBEX CAN'T DEAL WITH.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER, GO.

SO, UH, BACK TO THE AGENDA.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING, UM, ON THE TOPIC? I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF, IF THERE WAS GONNA BE ACCESS TO THOSE VIDEOS LATER SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY WATCH THEM IN HERE.

OH, YEAH, WELL BE ON YOUTUBE AS WELL AS IN THE SIMULCAST.

YEAH.

THE BEST THING WOULD BE YOUTUBE SO THEY CAN PROMOTE IT, SHARE IT.

GREAT.

BUT WE, IT'S HAPPENING, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

ALRIGHT, COOL.

WELL, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL REQUEST STAFF TO SHARE INFORMATION ON THAT.

YEAH.

IT MAY TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS BECAUSE WE'RE IN A LINE.

THEY DO GREAT WORK.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UH, BACK TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I, I, I THOUGHT THE, THE GRANTS WERE REALLY WELL DONE.

UH, I MEAN, THANK YOU STAFF FOR PUTTING IN, UM, ALL THE EFFORT AND ENERGY AS WELL AS THE LONG CENTER, UH, IN, IN COLLABORATING, UH, WITH, WITH EDD.

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UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THE FACT THAT THE PLATFORM ITSELF WAS SHIFTED TO SUBMITTABLE, I THINK MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE STABILITY OF THE PLATFORM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE SAVING FEATURE AND ALL THAT WAS FANTASTIC.

UM, AND THAT YOU COULD GO BACK AND EVEN EDIT THE APPLICATION TILL THE DUE DATE, UM, WAS, I THINK JUST, JUST VERY USEFUL.

UM, AND, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR ALSO, UH, REALLY KIND OF TAKING THE FEEDBACK FROM LAST YEAR AND, AND IMPLEMENTING SO MUCH OF THAT FEEDBACK.

UH, WHEN IT CAME TO SIMPLIFICATION OF THE GRANT PROCESS, I, I THOUGHT THE, THE PROCESS, AND I'M SURE I APPLIED AS WELL, AND, AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME ACTUALLY, AND, UH, UM, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY SIMPLIFIED.

THE, UM, UH, THE, THE FEEDBACK AROUND THE APPLICATION, NOT BEING PROJECT BASED, BUT REALLY BEING ON, ON WHAT A MUSICIAN IS ALREADY DOING IN THEIR, IN THEIR PROFESSION, UH, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

UM, UH, IT WAS, SO THAT FEEDBACK WAS TAKEN, UH, EXTENDING THE, THE ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, THE USAGE OF THE FUNDS FOR TWO YEARS, UH, SO THAT, UM, THE RECIPIENTS HAD ENOUGH TIME TO, UM, TO USE, USE THE DOLLARS IN A, IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

UM, I MEAN, SO MUCH OF THAT FEEDBACK WAS INCORPORATED THAT CAME FROM THIS COMMISSION THEN FROM, UH, THE COMMUNITY, UM, AFTER THE LAST YEAR'S ROLLOUT, AS WELL AS I'M SURE, UH, WHAT YOU'RE ALSO HEARING FROM YOUR CONSULTANTS.

UH, SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALL OF THAT.

I HAVE, UH, SPECIFIC COMMENTS, AND I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'LL HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, AS THESE, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GRANTS ARE ANNOUNCED, THE AWARDS ARE ANNOUNCED, UH, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, OKAY, THERE'S THIS QUESTION, YOU KNOW, CAN WE TWEAK THAT A BIT? OR, YOU KNOW, CAN WE TWEAK SOMETHING ELSE A BIT? I THINK I, I THINK I CAN HOLD THAT FOR ANOTHER ANOTHER COMMISSION MEETING.

BUT OVERALL, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, UH, THIS ROLLOUT AND HOW SMOOTHLY IT WAS DONE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

WELL, IT'S A GREAT TEAM OF BIG, BIG, HUGE THANK YOU TO KIM MC CARSON, WHO IS THE BACKBONE OF ALL OF OUR FUNDING PROGRAMS. THAT'S WHO MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET MONEY AND THE AGREEMENTS GET DONE.

AND SO I JUST WANNA GIVE HER A BIG, BIG SHOUT OUT.

WONDERFUL.

SO THANK YOU, KEN MCCARTHY, PROGRAM MANAGER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AS WELL AS, AND I WILL SAY ALSO GREG GONZALEZ IS ALSO GONNA BE HELPING OUR AWARDEES WITH THROUGH ADDITIONAL TRAINING, AND WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING SOME GREAT RESOURCES FOR FOLKS WHO LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, UH, TO HELP WITH THAT, SOME REAL GOOD, UH, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR MUSIC INDUSTRY.

SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE LONG CENTER AS WELL ON THAT.

BE SURE THAT WE HAVE VERY QUICK, YOU KNOW, PERTINENT, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVE TYPES OF TRAININGS AVAILABLE TO YOU GUYS, TO ALL OF THE AWARDEES.

UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE TO ALL PEOPLE, LIKE ALL APPLICANTS.

UM, BUT FOR NOW, LOOKING AT THE FUNDS, LET'S FOCUS ON AWARDEES AND THEN I'LL SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

FANTASTIC.

YEAH.

AND, AND I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE A TOPIC FOR, UH, PROBABLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MUSIC OCEAN SESSIONS AS, AS YOU KNOW, THINGS WHERE WE HEAR MORE THINGS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, WHEN THE GRANTS ARE ANNOUNCED.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, I MEAN, WHOEVER'S LISTENING, UH, OR, OR WE CAN REACH OUT PERSONALLY AS WELL IF THERE'S FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

MM-HMM.

, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, UH, THAT FEEDBACK.

I KNOW ZACH WAS HERE AND, AND I CAN REACH BACK, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST PLEASE SHARE FEEDBACK.

UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, UH, PLEASE SHARE IT CONSTRUCTIVELY.

UH, THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST.

AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THESE GRANTS CAN CONTINUE TO BE, UH, TWEAKED AND TO, TO, YOU KNOW, THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES, UH, FOR, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION, JUST GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION WEBSITE FOR EVERYONE'S EMAIL HERE.

AND I'M TALKING TO YOU OUT THERE TO, IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE GIVING YOUR FEEDBACK TO YOUR COMMISSIONER, OR YOU CAN, UH, AND CONTACT US DIRECTLY THROUGH OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.

SO PLEASE, YEAH, WE WANNA GET THAT FEEDBACK.

ANY IN WHICH WAY WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

YES, PLEASE.

AND I WOULD, UH, REQUEST THE SAME THING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

YES.

UH, ONE QUESTION, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I FORGOT.

IS THERE A, A TIMELINE ON WHEN THE AWARDEES WILL BEGIN LATER IN THE SUMMER? LATER IN THE SUMMER? OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER CODA.

I JUST HAD A LOADING LITTLE THOUGHT KIND OF, UM, RIFFING OFF, UM, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND AND THINKING OF THE HOT, UM, TAXES.

UM, DO WE DO ANY MARKETING TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE STAYING IN HOTELS TELLING THEM THAT PART OF WHAT THEY SPEND MONEY ON IS GOING BACK TO THIS FUND? YES.

SO WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ADDITIONAL SPEND THAT WE DO.

AND YOU HEARD FROM OMAR FROM, UH, VISIT AUSTIN.

UM, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A COUPLE YEARS AGO, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

YEAH.

THOSE

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WERE ALL OF OUR COVID TYPE OF WAYS TO DO IT, OF LIKE ACTUALLY PROMOTING INDIVIDUAL MUSICIANS, TICKET LINKS, VENUES.

UM, SO NOW THAT WE HAVE LIKE THE PAST AWARDEES, THESE AWARDEES, WE HAVE ACTUAL WAYS TO CONNECT THEM INTO A VERY TARGETED MARKETING.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, PLAN THAT KIND OF STARTS WHEREVER THEY ARE OUT IN THE WORLD AND FOLLOWS THEM BACK TO AUSTIN ALL THE WAY TO THE HOTELS SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THOSE TICKET LINKS ARE.

THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING BOTH WITH CREATE AUSTIN AND WITH VISIT AUSTIN ON MAKING THAT MORE EASY TO MM-HMM.

FIND WHO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE GRANTEES ARE WHERE THEIR EVENTS MM-HMM.

IF THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING THAT WEEK.

UM, AND THEN ALL, NOT ONLY THROUGH JUST THE CALENDAR THAT A VISIT AUSTIN HAS, BUT UM, ALSO THROUGH TARGETED MARKETING.

YES.

AND I GUESS WHAT I MEAN, ALMOST MORE SPECIFICALLY IS LIKE WITHIN THE HOTELS ARE MM-HMM.

ARE THEY AWARE THAT LIKE, WHEN, YOU KNOW, NOW I AM THINKING OF LIKE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE BIG FISH THESE DAYS SEEMS TO BE THE MOODY THEATER, FOR INSTANCE.

MM-HMM.

.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE YEAR ROUND PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN FOR MM-HMM.

, THOSE SHOWS, UM, THAT, UH, LIKE DO GUESTS IN HOTELS VIA CONCIERGE YES.

OR RESERVATIONS LIKE PRISON.

SO THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO DO IT, AND I DID IT BOTH WAYS.

I'VE DONE IT THROUGH WORKING FOR A VENUE AND GETTING IN CONTACT WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL CONCIERGE, CREATING A, YOU KNOW, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, DON'T FORGET TO TELL YOUR FOLKS.

AND THEN THERE'S A MARKETING PERSON AT EVERY HOTEL WHERE YOU ACTUALLY CAN SPEND MONEY ON PROMOTING YOUR PARTICULAR THINGS WITHIN ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CONNECT WITH GUESTS.

AND THEN THERE IS THE HOTEL MOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION AND THE CONCIERGE ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS AN OFFSHOOT THAT WILL ALSO PROMOTE IT TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT WAYS SO WE CAN DO IT, BUT ALSO WE DO ENCOURAGE THE AWARDEES TO USE THOSE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S PART OF THE TRAINING THAT WE'LL PROVIDE IS USING ALL OF THOSE FACETS TO MEET, TO MEET MORE PEOPLE.

I MEAN, WHEN I WORKED FOR VENUES, UH, BECOMING BEST FRIENDS WITH CONCIERGE, IT'S A GOOD THING, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

AND WE WOULD GIVE TICKETS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ANY KIND OF TICKETS THAT WE WANTED TO JUST, HEY, HERE YOU GO.

THEY LOVED US.

OH, YEAH.

FOUR MM-HMM.

FIVE YEARS WORKING AT THE FOUR SEASONS HOTEL.

MM-HMM.

, UH, BEFORE ANY OTHER HOTELS SEEMED LIKE WERE IN AUSTIN.

UM, THE, I I JUST THINK THAT IT'S SUCH AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM THAT, THAT WE HAVE HERE IN AUSTIN.

AND SO I THINK GUESTS AT HOTELS NOT ONLY GOING TO SEE THE MUSIC, BUT REALLY CONNECTING THE DOTS AND HA AND LIKE SOME CROSS POLLINIZATION OF LIKE, DOES MY CITY DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS? YEAH.

AND FOR THEM TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOMELAND AND BE ABLE TO SAY, AUSTIN HAS THIS REALLY COOL PROGRAM MM-HMM.

, LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND KIND OF PUSH FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR, BECAUSE WE'VE, YOU'VE SPENT BLOOD'S, SWEAT AND TEARS DEVELOPING THIS INCREDIBLE SYSTEM.

MM-HMM.

, AND I HOPE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES CAN LEARN FROM US WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

YEAH.

WE COULD DO A SPIN PROBABLY WITH VISIT AUSTIN INTO ALL THE HOTELS ON THE MARKETING SIDE, SO THAT WE'RE LIKE, IF YOU'RE IN THE ELEVATOR AND THERE'S A SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE A LIST OF SHOWS OR IN THEIR ROOM, OR WHEN THEY'RE CHECK, YOU KNOW, CHECKING IN.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE OTHER WAY WE CAN SPEND THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BESIDES JUST DIGITAL SPENDS TO POTENTIAL FOLKS.

WE CAN ALSO SPEND THAT MONEY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.

THAT IS THE VISIT TO AWESOME WEBSITE IS KIND OF DESIGNED TO BE THAT.

SO WE DO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE VISITING, GO TO THE VISIT AWESOME WEBSITE, LOOK AT THE CALENDAR.

THEY'RE USUALLY TRYING TO CURATE, LIKE, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND PART OF WHAT WE DO IS PART OF THAT DURATION.

UM, OF COURSE, ALL THE AWARDEES NEED TO PUT THEIR INFORMATION IN THE CALENDARS.

YOU KNOW, PLEASE DON'T FORGET HASHTAG AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH.

OH, NO, UH, GO AHEAD.

I'LL, I'LL COMMENT OFF TO YOU.

YEAH.

THE, THE ONE THING THAT I, THAT I, THAT I DO WANNA SAY, AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VISIT AUSTIN, WE HAVE, LIKE THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF VISIT, UM, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS MM-HMM.

THAT ARE AROUND, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

MM-HMM.

THEN THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THOSE THINGS IN, IN DIFFERENT PLACES ALL OVER THE WORLD JUST ABOUT.

AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WELL, NOT WE PER SE, BUT LIKE THIS AT AUSTIN AND TRIBAL TEXAS, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO IS ACTUALLY EXPAND MM-HMM.

INTO ASIA, UM, AND THE COMING YEARS.

SO LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S THAT, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT AND IT'S, I, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ANYWAY.

UH, THE THING IS, IS THAT A LOT OF THE MUNICIPALITIES, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, YOUR WATERMELON FESTIVAL, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR, LIKE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT FESTIVALS THAT HAPPEN AROUND THESE DIFFERENT CITIES, THEY'RE USING TOTAL OCCUPANCY TAX DOLLARS IN SOME CASES TO PUT THESE FESTIVALS TOGETHER, TO BRING TOURISM TO THESE PLACES, WHETHER IT'S CONCERTS OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

AND SO THE THING IS, IS THAT A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, THERE'S BUSINESSES, LOCAL BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS, WHATEVER, THEY

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CAN TAP INTO SOME OF THOSE HOT DOLLARS AND THEY CAN TO, TO PUT ON THEIR, AND SHOWCASE THEIR EVENTS, AND THEY CAN JUSTIFY THAT BY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY BROUGHT IN LAST YEAR.

IF THEY BROUGHT 30,000 PEOPLE TO THIS ONE FESTIVAL OR SOMETHING, THEY'RE, IT'S GONNA BE MORE JUSTIFIABLE FOR THEM TO HAVE MORE OF THAT MONEY.

THE THING IS, IS THAT IN, IN, IN, IN PARTICULAR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT I, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MORE OF THOSE DOLLARS GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE HANDS OF MUSICIANS AND VENUES AND, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS ON A LOCAL GRANULAR SCALE.

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, FOR THE MOST PART, ON A VERY BIG SCALE.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT NONPROFITS OF DIFFERENT GROUPS AND ENTITIES AND FESTIVALS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT GET HOT DOLLARS ALREADY.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW DO WE, WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HOW DO WE PUT MORE OF THOSE DOLLARS INTO THE HANDS OF THE ACTUAL WORKING MUSICIANS THAT JUSTIFY THOSE DOLLARS BEING SPENT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UM, YEAH, I, I, I THINK TO TO, TO INCREASING THE PART, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT'S ALSO HAPPENING IS, OF COURSE THERE ARE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN COMMISSIONS LIKE THIS AND WITHIN COUNCIL AROUND STRS, UH, AND, UH, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S, THEY'RE NON-LICENSED, AND HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT? UH, WHICH IF THAT GETS SOLVED AT SOME LEVEL, I THINK WOULD ALSO BRING IN MORE, UM, HOT TAX, UH, YOU KNOW, DOLLARS INTO, INTO THE MIX, UH, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FOR THE COMMERCIAL MUSIC INDUSTRY, I THINK, UH, AS I, UH, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I KNOW, UM, AUSTIN HAS BEEN QUITE THE PIONEER ON, ON THAT FRONT.

UH, I DON'T THINK THIS QUITE EXISTS, UH, A COMMERCIAL LIVE MUSIC FUND SUCH AS THIS ELSEWHERE.

AND, UH, WE DO, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE EXAMPLES OF OTHER CITIES AND STATES THAT ARE LOOKING AT OUR MODEL AND, UH, LOOKING TO ADOPT THIS AND, AND IMPLEMENT SOMETHING SIMILAR, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT THIS POINT.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

AND THROUGH THE TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE, WE'RE MEETING WITH OUR COHORTS IN OTHER PARTS, OTHER CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES IN OUR REGION.

IN FACT, UH, HIM AND SHELBY JUST HOSTED A COHORT LAST WEDNESDAY.

THERE YOU GO.

AND, UM, TO KIND OF LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND LEARN BEST PRACTICES, AND YES, THE VISIT, WHATEVER THE, THEY USED TO BE CALLED THE AUSTIN, THE VISITOR CONVENTION AND BUREAU, WHATEVER, AND THAT'S EVERYWHERE.

UM, EVERYONE'S REBRANDING TO THINGS LIKE VISIT AUSTIN, UM, WHICH MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

AND SO WE WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS ALL OVER TEXAS BECAUSE IT JUST HELPS US TO PROMOTE EACH OTHER'S CITIES BECAUSE IT BRINGS MORE TOURISM IF WE'RE MORE CONCENTRATED LIKE THAT, AND HOW DO YOU TAKE MUSIC AND USE MUSIC TO DO THAT? AND SO IT WAS A GREAT COHORT.

THEY TOWARD ACL LIVE, THEY HEARD FROM ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF FOLKS HERE IN AUSTIN.

AND, UM, IT WAS REALLY GREAT.

AND SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO BETTER PROMOTE OUR MUSIC, OUR ARTISTS, TO THE FOLKS ALREADY COMING, I MEAN, THIS ALSO HELPS MAKE PEOPLE COME, OBVIOUSLY.

SO, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO USE THESE DOLLARS TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRAIN EVERYONE ON HOW TO SPEND YOUR DOLLARS WELL, SO THAT YOU'RE JUST NOT THROWING MONEY INTO THE VOID.

SOMETIMES IT CAN FEEL THAT WAY.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS PROGRAM TO REALLY GO AND GET SOME GOOD TRAINING ON MUSIC, MARKETING, TOURISM, A MARKETING, UM, AND THEN ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT GREG WILL BE, YOU KNOW, HELPING FOLKS WITH FROM CONTRACTING TO, YOU KNOW, LICENSING, PUBLISHING, YOU NAME IT.

SO, THANK YOU.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT TOPIC? ONE, THE 1, 1, 1 THING I DID WANT TO SAY IS, UM, YOU, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

IT'S WHAT, HOW DO WE GET OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY TO DO WHAT, BASICALLY, HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND THAT'S MY LIFE'S WORK IN TERMS OF A GOAL RIGHT NOW.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, TO JUST TO, TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE FOUR SEASONS.

I MEAN, I GOT MY START AT FOUR SEASONS WITH MY RESIDENCY.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE LIKE A, LIKE A, A CON, LIKE A NOT A CONER THING.

IT'S LIKE A THING WHERE YOU CAN HIRE A LIVE MUSICIAN TO HELP YOU PLAY GUITAR.

LIKE THEY HAVE A GUITAR PROGRAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO FOUR SEASONS IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND AWARE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS A MUSIC CITY AND, AND, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND SO TRYING TO GIVE SOME EDUCATION AND PUT MORE EDUCATION INTO, UH, HOW, UH, WHERE THESE DOLLARS GO WHEN THESE PEOPLE COME HERE.

MM-HMM.

PATRONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME HERE TO MONEY, THAT THAT'S FUTURE AUSTINITES.

YES.

SOMETHING.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UM, THANK YOU, ERICA.

UH, KUDOS AGAIN TO, UM, A DD AND, UH, THE LONG INCENTIVE FOR, UM, THIS, UH, FANTASTIC ROLLOUT.

UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OUTCOMES.

UH, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO

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FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

PLEASE BRING THE GOOD AND THE BAD, UH, THE GOOD AS WELL, , AND, UH, AND, UH, WE, WE CAN, THIS CAN ONLY GET BETTER AND BETTER FROM HERE.

THANK YOU.

UM, MOVING ON,

[5. Discussion on city support for housing the current collection at Texas Music Museum following update from working group and Sylvia Morales, Texas Music Museum.]

UM, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON CITY SUPPORT FOR HOUSING, THE CURRENT COLLECTION AT TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM, FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM WORKING GROUP AND SYLVIA MORALES, TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM.

UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS AS, UM, UM, COMMUNICATION HERE, NOT PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, COMMUNICATION.

THE AGENDA ITEM HERE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, UH, MR. PATRICK BTA.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? HI, PATRICK.

GREAT TO BE HERE.

UH, PAT BTA, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS.

UM, REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANNA SAY KUDOS TO, UH, STAFF AND EDD FOR A GREAT JOB ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

WE'RE HEARING FROM ALL THE MUSICIANS WE REPRESENT THAT OPENED BY AND LARGE, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PROCESS THIS YEAR, AND, AND THEY REALLY, UH, WERE PLEASED WITH IT.

AND FROM ALL THE CITIES WE WORK WITH AROUND THE COUNTRY, THEY'RE JEALOUS.

UH, NEW YORK, LA, CHICAGO, THEY ALL WANT A PIECE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING DOWN HERE.

SO, UH, GOOD STUFF.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE THE THEME THIS EVENING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE LOSING ALL THESE ICONS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT REALLY UNDERLINES, UH, WHY SOMETHING LIKE THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM IS SO IMPORTANT.

UM, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE, UH, LAST WEEK TO, UH, TOUR THE MUSEUM WITH COMMISSIONER DAVILA, UH, STRICKLAND AND PRICE.

AND, UH, I, I WAS JUST, I WAS BLOWN AWAY.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE THIS, UH, IN TEXAS THAT EXISTS, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DEEP, DEEP ARCHIVE THAT UNTIL YOU REALLY SEE IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST HARD TO, TO REALLY GRASP WHAT'S THERE.

UM, I MEAN, COLLECTIONS OF CONJUNTO MUSIC, A WHOLE SECTION ON COMMISSIONER DAVILA, UM, CZE MUSIC FOR, FOR FOLKS LIKE US, KIM.

UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL THERE.

AND I, I, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ABOUT 70% OF THE COLLECTION, UH, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ROOM TO DISPLAY IT IN, IN 2000 SQUARE FEET.

SO, UH, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR TONIGHT, AND WHAT YOU GUYS PROBABLY HEARD A LITTLE BIT A MONTH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IS, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR SPACE.

UM, THEY HAVE OUTGROWN THE SPACE THEY'RE IN.

CERTAINLY, AND I THINK, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SIMPLY INTRODUCE INTO THE CONVERSATION, UM, IS THAT IF WE'RE ASK, IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR 13,000 SQUARE FEET, LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS ALREADY IN PLAY THAT MAY BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS TYPE OF REQUEST AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF, UH, TOURISTS WHERE IT PROPERLY SHOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE.

WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING WITH BLOCK 16 AND 18 WITH A HIGH RISE HAPPENING, AND OTHER BUSINESSES ON THE BOTTOM FLOORS.

CONCEIVABLY, YOU COULD MAKE ROOM FOR 13,000 SQUARE FEET FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

ALSO, I THINK THERE'S A BIG PRESENTATION TONIGHT ON THE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, RIGHT? UH, SO, UH, WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, CORPORATION, UH, THE CULTURAL TRUST WITH ANNE GATLING HAYES, AND TO EXPLORE, UH, WHAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE, UH, PROVIDING THESE GUYS WITH EITHER A NEW HOME OR FORTIFYING WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.

UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT COULD APPEAL TO TOURISM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CITY.

UH, BUT TO SHOW THAT AUSTIN REALLY IS THE HOME OF MUSIC IN TEXAS, AND TEXAS IS ONE OF THE GREAT MUSIC STATES IN THE COUNTRY, IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE.

SO LET'S JUST HELP THEM OUT.

THANK YOU, PAT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO, UM, INVITE, UH, JAY STANLEY.

I JUST QUICKLY, UH, UH, WANTED TO CHECK IN IF, UH, MR. J STANLEY.

HMM.

UH, DID YOU, UH, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK AFTER HIM? HOW YOU ARE LISTED NEXT? THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT I WAS DOING THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN THE REST OF OUR STAFF AND BOARD MEMBERS WERE GONNA, UH, COMMENT AFTER I FINISHED.

BUT, UH, WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S WHY IT SAID THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

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BUT IT SAID SYLVIA, BUT, UH, SYLVIA SET UP THE MEETING FOR US HERE, AND, UH, AND SHE'S, SHE'LL SAY SOMETHING, BUT OKAY.

I'LL, UH, CALL ON THE SPEAKERS AFTER YOU, YOU DID THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

BUT YOU NEED TO SORT OF CHANGE THAT AND SAY, UM, UH, WORK GROUP AND CLAY SHORTLY.

AND SYLVIA'S.

OKAY.

UM, A ACTUALLY, I, I'M STILL KIND OF BLOWN AWAY BY THIS, UM, MICHAEL, UH, I, I HAVE TO ASK YOU, HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHO ARIZONA DRAINS THIS? ARIZONA DRAINS THIS VERY FAMOUS GOSPEL SINGER, UH, AND SHE DID WHAT WAS CALLED SANCTIFIED SINGING.

AND ARIZONA TRAINS WENT TO THE COLOR LINE SCHOOL HERE.

AND, UH, THERE'S ONE ALBUM, YOU KNOW, OF HER MUSIC.

AND ON THAT ALBUM, THERE'S A DRAWING.

MICHAEL FOUND A PICTURE, NOW HAVE A PICTURE OF HER SITTING AT A PIANO WITH A GROUP.

AND THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF, THOUGH, I'M GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, MICHAEL, THIS, UH, WHAT DETECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOSING SOMEBODY WHO IS OUT THERE FINDING REAR STUFF, YOU KNOW? SO I, UH, YEAH.

AND HE DID A, HE DID A BOOK FOR HER TOO, BY THE WAY.

DID YOU EVER WANNA KNOW ABOUT ARIZONA DRAINS? DID A LOOK AT, UH, MICHAEL'S BOOK ON ARIZONA DRAINS.

UH, ANYWAY, I, I, I JUST HAVE TO SAY A LITTLE MORE ABOUT MICHAEL.

IT'S JUST, UH, I, I, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT.

ANYWAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, , IF YOU NOTICE ON THE, ON THE, UH, THE HANDOUT, WHICH HAS A LOT MORE STUFF IN IT THAN WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT.

UM, BUT THE, THE PICTURE, UH, , THAT'S, UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE ENVISION, YOU KNOW, AS THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM EVENTUALLY.

AND WE REALIZE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'LL TAKE TIME, PROBABLY MAYBE $500 MILLION OR SOMETHING EVENTUALLY, BUT IT WILL BRING SO MUCH MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, AND, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE, THERE'S SOME PICTURES IN HERE OF LIKE, THE EXPERIENCE MUSIC MUSEUM NOW CHANGES ITS NAME TO POP, AND IT'S MOSTLY ALL KINDS OF POP.

THERE'S JUST MUSIC AND THE, UM, UH, COUNTRY MUSIC MUSEUM AND, UH, UM, UH, THE ROCK AND ROLL MUSEUM.

THERE'S, UH, INFORMATION IN THERE ON THEM AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY BRING INTO THE CITIES, AND, UH, HOW, HOW LARGE THEY ARE.

YOU KNOW? I MEAN, THE COUNTRY MUSEUM STARTED WITH A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM, UM, UH, A COUNTRY MUSIC MUSICIAN WHO LIVED WHO WERE PART OF THAT COUNTRY MUSIC, UH, ASSOCIATION.

AND OF COURSE THE, THE ROCK AND ROLL WAS FUNDED BY CLEVELAND, BY THE CITY.

AND THE OTHER ONE, OF COURSE, WAS FUNDED BY A, A, UH, A BILLIONAIRE, YOU KNOW.

AND, UH, SO, BUT I KNOW THIS SOUNDS LIKE, SOUNDS A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT WE'RE GONNA, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT.

BUT I, WE NEED THE SEEDS IN HERE OF, UH, TECH.

THE THING I WAS TECH IS MUSIC MUSEUM WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO BE BIGGER THAN ANY OF THESE MUSEUMS, WHICH ARE HUGE BECAUSE THE COUNTRY MUSEUM HAS COUNTRY AND ROCK AND ROLL, HAS ROCK AND ROLL.

AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE I GOT, I GOT A LIST IN HERE OF, UH, LET'S SEE, WHERE IS IT? UH, WE, WE NEED AN AREA FOR NATIVE AMERICAN TEXANS.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN OKLAHOMA.

'CAUSE MOST OF 'EM WERE KICKED OUT, EXCEPT THAT THE NEW ONES WHO WERE BROUGHT IN, 'CAUSE THEY WERE KICKED OUT FROM OTHER PLACES.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL, UH, EXHIBIT, UH, SONGS THAT TEXAS ALL, UH, THEY DON'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH MUSIC.

AND WE HAVE A HUGE COLLECTION.

UM, AF UH, TEXAS AFRICAN AMERICAN EXHIBIT, WHICH WE HAVE IS ZYDECO FUNK SOUL.

WE HAVE A HUGE EXHIBIT ON POP CONJUNTO, ARTISTA PIANO PROFESSORS, UH, TEJANO WOMEN, TEXAS GOSPEL ROCK, GERMAN BLUES, CLASSICAL CZECH, UH, UH, TEXAS COUNTRY MUSIC, WESTERN SWING, JAZZ, UM, HIP HOP RAP.

AND, AND, AND OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT STUFF LIKE INSTRUMENT BUILDERS AND, UH, UM, AND, UH, PUBLISHING COMPANIES AND, YOU KNOW, A A A LOT OF OTHER, IF YOU COME IN, WE'VE GOT A NICE DISPLAY OF A SAMPLE OF, UH, ONE FIRST PUBLISHING COMPANY STARTED BY AN, AN IRISH IMMIGRANT IN 1866.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, UH, AND THAT'S, UM, UM,

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A GERMAN IMMIGRANT STARTED ABOUT 1891.

BUT THAT, IT'S GREAT STUFF.

AND WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT MICHAEL UNDERSTOOD THE IMPORTANCE OF HISTORY AND EVEN RESEARCHING AND CONTINUING TO ADD, AND I, I'M AFRAID NOW, YOU KNOW, UH, SO MUCH NOT HISTORY'S REALLY NOT, NOT, NOT, UH, UH, NOT THOUGHT ABOUT VERY MUCH ANYMORE, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN BUILD ONGOING, UH, GREAT MUSIC, UH, HISTORY OF TEXAS WITHOUT BEING, UH, KNOWING ABOUT A LOT OF, ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL, FANTASTIC, UH, MUSICIANS THAT HAVE KIND OF LAID THE GROUNDWORK AND I MEAN, IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS AND SUCH.

UM, AND, UM, SO, UH, OH, BY THE WAY, ON THAT PICTURE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE ARCHITECTURE ON A COUPLE, SOME OF THESE MUSEUMS, I, I GUESS I'D SAY THEY LOOK LIKE, KIND OF LIKE SOME ARCHITECT'S, UH, FANTASY OR SOMETHING, .

WE, WE NOT ONLY WISH EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM ON THE EAST SIDE OF WATSON BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE, UH, AFRICAN AMERICAN AND, UH, MEXICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS THAT WERE REALLY, UH, PRETTY MUCH, UH, THE MAIN, THE MAIN ONES TO FOR, UH, ABOUT 70 YEARS, YOU KNOW, FROM EARLY 19 HUNDREDS.

UM, BUT ALSO, UH, IT, WE'D LIKE IT TO LOOK LIKE TEXAS, RIGHT? UH, MAYBE LIKE LIMESTONE AND CEDAR AND, WELL, MAYBE EVEN A FEW LOGS OR SOMETHING.

MAYBE.

UH, YEAH.

BUT, UH, A REAL, SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, UH, TEXAS.

ANYWAY, SO IN HERE THERE'S A, UM, UM, A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.

AND, UM, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN PROUD OF IS RECENTLY A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF, A LOT OF AWESOME, BUT WE LIKE THIS ONE THE BEST .

AND, UH, I THINK YOU COME OVER BECAUSE YOU DON'T JUST SEE STUFF, UH, YOU HEAR A LOT OF THE VERY ORIGINAL MUSIC, EVEN ON A LOT, A LOT OF THE VERY ORIGINAL MACHINES, YOU KNOW, GOING WAY BACK TO MAYBE 1902.

ANYWAY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WHAT WE NEED IS AT THIS POINT ABOUT, UH, 7,500, UH, SQUARE FOOT GALLERY AND AN EXHIBIT AREA.

AND EVEN THERE, WE'LL HAVE TO ROTATE AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SQUEEZE STUFF.

BUT, UH, WE NEED A OFFICE AND AREA.

UH, AND OF COURSE, UH, VERY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IS, UH, A CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE.

'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF STUFF THAT'S IN, UH, IN, UH, IN A TEMPORARY STORAGE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AIR CONDITIONED AND IT'S COLD AND IT'S REAL HOT STUFF.

THAT'S, AND A LOT OF IT'S REALLY RARE STUFF I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF.

BUT, UM, AND WE'D LIKE, WE CALL IT MULTIPURPOSE ROOM.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HAVING EVENTS LAST NIGHT.

UH, UH, PAM HART AND, UH, JAY HERE.

WE HAD A WONDERFUL PROGRAM, UH, UH, CALLED, UH, YOUTH, YOUTH JAZZ JAM, , AND, UH, AND SOME WONDERFUL KIDS AND STUFF.

THERE'S GONNA BE TWO MORE LIKE THAT, UH, UH, THIS SUMMER.

AND, UH, UM, YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT MULTI, WE SAY MULTIPORT RIGHT NOW, WE DO THOSE IN THE, UH, AREA.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE, UM, UH, UH, THE, UH, MEETING ROOM, UH, AND, UH, YOU SAY ARCHIVES AND COLLECTION OF, WE HAVE JUST LITERALLY THOUSANDS , UH, AND, UH, YEAH.

YEAH.

YOU WANT ME TO FINISH THE, THE MONEY PART? YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK, I THINK IT'S TOTALLY FINE.

SURE.

I WAS WONDERING IF, UH, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD HIT ON THE, THE KIND OF ALL THE KEY POINTS YOU WANTED TO COVER, UH, QUICKLY, AND THEN I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION TO MM-HMM.

ASK QUESTIONS.

UM, UNLESS YOU HAVE, YEAH.

I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT.

YOU, YOU HAVE A HUGE, UH, MATERIAL.

I'M, AND I WOULD YOU TO, I WOULD JUST DEAL THE COMMISSIONER.

I MEAN, I DON'T MIND.

NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I AM SO THANKFUL FOR THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.

I FEEL THAT, UM, IT WAS VERY TOP LEVEL.

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IT GAVE US A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE, UM, OF THE, THE MUSEUM AND WHAT THE MATERIALS THAT YOU HAD.

AND THEN YOU'VE, UM, YOUR, YOU, YOUR STAFF AND BOARD HERE HAS COME BACK AND PROVIDED THIS, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY THOROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPOSAL.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, I, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE NEEDED TO READ THROUGH THIS TO UNDERSTAND IT MORE, THAT'S GREAT.

I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF LITTLE QUESTIONS AS I WAS, UM, THUMBING THROUGH.

UH, AND, AND I DON'T REALLY EXPECT , UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS ANSWERS AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, WELL THOUGHT OUT ANSWERS MY, MY, BUT GOING THROUGH THE OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR PHASE ONE, IT MAY BEHOOVE YOU TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THE STAFFING BUDGET ON THE OPERATIONAL COST ADDITIONAL.

UM, BECAUSE THE 1 31 500 AS A TOTAL PHASE, YOU DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, HEALTH INSURANCE FOR EMPLOYEES.

BUT IT MAY BE GOOD TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, PUT THE STAFF BUDGET IN THERE AND THEN, UM, WITHIN YOUR STAFFING PROPOSAL, IN ADDITION TO YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SINCE THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE DREAM SCENARIO, RIGHT? I, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND RECOMMEND PUTTING A DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IN THERE BECAUSE, UM, OR ELSE THE BOARD IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REALLY HAVING TO HUSTLE TO RAISE MONEY.

BUT PERHAPS IF YOU JUST HAVE A DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR LINE IN THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT AS WELL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REALLY, REALLY ASKING FOR IN, IN THAT REGARD.

SO THE INFORMATION ON PAGE 10 TO BE INCORPORATED TO PAGE 14, SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE TOTAL PHASE BUDGETS UP TO DATE MAY BE IMPORTANT.

UM, SO JUST KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST KIND OF QUICKLY JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, BUT THEN ONCE YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PERHAPS, UM, MAYBE NOT COMMITMENT, BUT SOME KIND OF LIKE CITY OF AUSTIN, WE ARE BEHIND THE WORK THAT YOU DO, YOU KNOW, I CAN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF AUSTIN JUST SAYING, YES, WE'RE BEHIND THE WORK THAT IT IS THAT YOU DO, BUT YOU, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THIS ON.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND, UM, AND THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM IS, DO YOU ALL FEEL THAT YOU HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO APPROACH LARGER ORGANIZATIONS THAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, SINCE IT IS THE TEXAS MU MUSIC MUSEUM? I MEAN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PERHAPS APPROACH THE, YOU KNOW, TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE OR THE COMMISS, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE ALL OF TEXAS AND NOT LIMIT YOURSELF TO JUST AUSTIN? OF COURSE, IF THIS IS WHERE YOU REALLY WANNA BE BASED, THEN YOU NEED BUY-IN FROM OUR PARTICULAR CITY.

BUT PERHAPS IT'S WORTH, UM, LOOKING AT YOUR FUNDING SOURCES FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.

I, I THINK I MENTIONED LAST TIME THAT WE ARE EXPECTING TWO OF THE, UM, STATE CONGRESS PEOPLE ARE COMING OVER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'LL ACTUALLY, WE, YEARS AGO WE HAD DONE A, UH, UH, A RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS PASSED BY THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, UH, FOR MAKING US THE OFFICIAL TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM.

AND, UH, GOVERNOR PERRY, UH, I THINK, UH, ON THE, UH, ADVICE OF THE, UH, UH, SOMEBODY , UH, YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T SIGN IT AND SAID, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT AGAIN.

'CAUSE OF COURSE, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US IF WE, IF WE, IF WE HAVE THAT, UH, THE TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'VE TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH , THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY INTEREST IN US.

AND I GUESS IT'S, THEY SEE IT MORE AS FOR BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW? AND, UH, AND, UH, YEAH, THAT'S, UH, IT, IT, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING MAYBE NOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER NEW PERSON, UH, MAYBE WE CAN, UH, GET SOME, UH, COMMUNICATION GOING.

BUT, UM, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVEN'T TRIED.

UH, THE, UM, UM, YEAH, AND, AND, AND OF COURSE, IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO FUNDING FROM, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE PLACE.

BUT WE DO KNOW, LIKE IN THE PAST, IT'S THE, LIKE I SAID, THE COUNTRY ONE STARTED MOSTLY WITH WEALTHY COUNTRY MUSICIANS WHO STARTED, WHO REMEMBER THE BIG, UH, THEY HAD, THEY HAVE A BIG ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK TEXAS IS, IT USED TO HAVE ONE THAT WAS CALLED, UH, TEXAS MUSIC THAT WAS, UH, SOME ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS MUSICIANS.

BUT IT, IT, IT KIND OF FADED AWAY.

AND OF COURSE, CLEVELAND UNDERSTOOD HOW IMPORTANT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, THE ROCK AND ROLL WAS, AND THEY, THEY JUST BASICALLY BANKROLLED IT.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UH, IF WE COULD FIND ANOTHER BILLIONAIRE , LIKE, UH, NOW IT, IT IS A LITTLE SAD TO US THAT THAT EXPERIENCED MUSIC PROJECT NOW HAS BECOME JUST POP AND IT, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MUSIC,

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BUT NOW IT'S ALL KINDS OF POP STUFF, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.

.

AND, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, WOULDN'T IT BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME, UH, ABSOLUTELY BILLIONAIRE HERE, BUT, UH, WE'VE TRIED THAT, BY THE WAY, CONTACTING SOME FOLKS.

BUT I THINK IT, ONE, WHAT COMES TO MY MIND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS IN AUSTIN IS BECAUSE WE'RE THE CAPITAL OF TEXAS.

MM-HMM.

AND SO THAT, THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A NATURAL, YOU KNOW, NEXT STEP.

MAY I ASK THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HOW IT, IT, ONCE THIS IS FLESHED OUT WITH PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD TAKE THIS AND LOOK THROUGH AND PENCIL IT UP AND THIS AND THAT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT APPROVED BY THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, LENDING WHATEVER WE CAN TO MAKE THIS MORE SOLID.

WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS, COMMISSIONERS OR, AND OR STAFF TO, IF I, IF I MAY? UM, I WOULD, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD REQUEST, UM, UH, DR.

SHOCK, UM, IF HE COULD JUST HIT ON LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY ELABORATE PRESENTATION.

I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO COVER THIS IN DETAIL AT THE COMMISSION TODAY.

RIGHT.

SO, BUT IF YOU COULD HIT ON THE KEY POINTS ON WHAT, WHAT DID YOU WANNA TOUCH UPON, UH, IF YOU COULD HELP WITH THAT, AND THEN I WOULD, UH, OF COURSE, UM, IT'S MY DUTY TO CALL IN.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THIS OTHER SPEAKERS.

YEAH.

UM, I ALSO WOULD REQUEST A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED ON THE WORKING GROUP, IF, UM, UM, EITHER ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE WORKING GROUP COULD QUICKLY FILL US IN ON THAT.

AND I THINK THIS IS AS TWO, AS TWO, BECAUSE THERE IS, THERE IS A LARGER VISION.

AND, AND THEN WHAT IS, IF WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, IS THE SPECIFIC ASK FOR THE CITY, FROM THE CITY.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

AND, AND, AND THEN OF COURSE, WITH, WITH THE DETAILED DOCUMENTATION, I WOULD REQUEST COMMISSIONERS, SINCE THIS IS UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS TODAY, IT'S NOT INTERACTIONS.

SO, UH, TO REVIEW IT ON THEIR TIME, ON THEIR OWN TIME.

UH, AND, AND, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR FOLKS WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN, IN LOOKING INTO THIS TOPIC AND SUPPORTING IT, UH, JUST REVIEW IT AND, AND THEN, THEN WE WOULD, WE CAN ESTABLISH WHAT THAT NEXT STEP IS.

BUT I THINK WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO REALLY IS WHAT IS THE SPECIFICS ASK FROM THE CITY, OR WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, REQUESTING THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THANK YOU.

IF, IF, IF I, IF, IF, IF I MAY, UH, THE, UH, UH, THIS, THIS PRESENTATION IS, IT'S, IT'S EXTREMELY, I, UM, INVOLVING, AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF DETAIL, AND IT'S BASICALLY THEIR ENTIRE PLAN FOR WHAT IT IS THAT THEY, THAT, THAT THEY WANNA DO, WHERE THEY WANNA SEE THEMSELVES, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OUT, WHICH IS, YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS ON, ON A, ON A GRANULAR LEVEL FROM THE WORKING GROUP, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE MET, UM, COMMISSIONER PRICE, COMMISSIONER DAVIDA, AND MYSELF, UH, PAT , SOME TEXT MUSICIANS.

WE MET WITH THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE BASICALLY WAS WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS KIND OF STRUCTURE OUT THE ASK FROM THE RECOMME.

WHAT, WHAT SHOULD THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMISSION BE IN TERMS OF HOW IT CAN HELP TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM? WHEN THEY FIRST, THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM FIRST CAME TO US, UM, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, DIVULGED THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DIVULGED TO US WAS THAT, UH, THE RENT FROM TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM MUSIC MUSEUM IS BEING PAID FROM, UM, CLAY HORKEY, SOCIAL SECURITY, AND THAT THEY GOT A THRIVE GRANT THAT, UH, BASICALLY ALLOWED FOR THEM TO HAVE AIR CONDITIONING.

THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AT LEAST, SORRY, CSAP CSAP THINK, SORRY.

UM, THE, THAT THERE WERE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF ARTIFACTS THAT ARE SITTING IN STORAGE THAT, UM, ARE NOT CLIMATE CONTROLLED, THAT NEED TO BE CLIMATE CONTROLLED, THAT THEY'RE BUSTING AT THE SEA, BASICALLY, WHERE THEY ARE.

THEY'RE RENTING A SPACE OUT FROM THE EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH RIGHT NOW.

AND BASICALLY THE, AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS BASICALLY SAY, OKAY, WELL, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY DIFFICULT IF YOU ASK FOR ALL OF THIS MONEY UPFRONT.

UM, BUT WHATEVER THE, THE, THE, THE, THE BIG ASK IS GOING TO BE.

SO HOW ABOUT WE BREAK IT UP INTO SMALLER CHUNKS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME HELP THAT WAY? IT'S GONNA BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR US TO APPROVE, TO APPROVE A PLAN THAT'S IMMEDIATE AND HELP COUNSEL RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT IS MORE IMMEDIATE VERSUS LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S FIVE, SEVEN YEARS OUT, BASICALLY.

SO THE, THE, WHAT WE COOKED UP WAS BASICALLY THIS ASK OF, UM, CAN WE RECOMMEND, BASICALLY THAT WE SUPPORT PHASE ONE OF THIS, WHICH IS BASICALLY GETTING THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM A MOVED INTO A COHESIVE SPACE THAT IS PREFERABLY ONLY EAST SIDE, PREFERABLY BLOCK 16 AND 18.

IF WE CAN DO THAT, POSSIBLY CONVENTION CENTER, MAYBE, BUT WE REALLY WANT THEM TO STAY ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE

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THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE IN.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.

AND IF THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO BE, WE SHOULD ASK FOR THEM, ASK, RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL THAT THEY BE THERE.

TWO THAT, UM, THAT THEY ARE SUPPLIED WITH, UM, FUNDING FROM THE CITY TO, UM, BE RECOGNIZED AS A HISTORIC, UH, MUSEUM.

BECAUSE THEY ARE A HISTORIC MUSEUM.

THEY HAVE LITERAL ARTIFACTS.

THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WAS, WHEN I WAS AT, UM, UH, OVER AT THE MUSEUM, LITERALLY, THERE'S, THERE'S PHONOGRAPHS, I MEAN, LITERALLY PHONOGRAPHS THAT ARE PLAYING THINGS THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

I MEAN, YOU THINK LASER DISC IS SOMETHING LIKE THESE, THESE THINGS ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SERIOUS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY, I MEAN, THEY BELONG AND THEY BELONG WHERE THEY BELONG, BASICALLY.

AND THEY'RE THE FIRST OF THEIR KIND, AND THEY'RE THE OLDEST OF THEIR KIND, AND THEY'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE, YOU KNOW, FOR ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS.

AND SO, IN ORDER FOR US TO PRESERVE THIS HISTORY, THIS IS, UM, ON A GRANULAR SCALE, THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED.

SO WE'VE BASICALLY, AGAIN, BROKEN IT DOWN INTO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE.

I THINK THAT SYLVIA WILL EXPLAIN IN DETAIL WHAT THAT MEANS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT, UM, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE ASKED YOU PERMISSION.

UH, READY? DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I THINK THAT YOU TAPPED ON IT.

UM, FOR THE MOST PART.

I MEAN, AGAIN, THE NEED IS, IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S HUGE.

AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS IDENTIFYING THE SPACE.

AND THEN IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE KENNY DORMS, IS THAT THE SPACE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE, LIKE TRYING TO OCCUPY WITH THAT POSS POSSIBLY KENNY DORMS SOMEWHERE ON THE EAST SIDE, MAYBE BLOCK 16 AND 18, LIKE IS WHAT PAT WAS TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UH, A A DC AND GOT GATLING HAYES.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THERE IS AN OPTION THERE OF SOME SORT AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST PIECE.

AND, AND I THINK, JAY, YOU HAD IDENTIFIED A, IF JAY'S STILL HERE, I THINK YOU HAD IDENTIFIED A VACANT SPOT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE UPDATE IS ON THAT, BUT THAT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR AWAY THAT IS.

ACTUALLY.

IT'S 12TH STREET, RIGHT? ISN'T OFF 12TH STREET.

SO STILL, STILL EAST AUSTIN.

I THINK THAT'D BE FABULOUS FOR WHAT IT IS.

MAYBE NOT THE LIMESTONE THE, UH, DOCTOR JUST YET, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UH, A GREAT OPTION.

UM, AND I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THAT LOCATION IS GONNA BE.

AND THEN I THINK WE KIND OF AGREED MAYBE THAT NOT HAVING IT BE A TEMPORARY SPOT, THE FIRST WORLD ROUND, RIGHT? IF THE FIRST PLACE COULD BE ITS PERMANENT HOME, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.

AND THEN NOT NEED ANOTHER, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE STORAGE SPACE AGAIN? LIKE, CAN WE HOUSE EVERYTHING IN A FACILITY TO BE DISPLAYED? RIGHT.

I, I, I WANNA RESPOND TO A COUPLE THINGS.

NUMBER ONE IS, OF COURSE, UH, WE, WE CERTAINLY WORK WITH HAROLD, YOU KNOW, ON THAT BLOCK.

AND, AND, UH, AND, AND WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED IN THAT.

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, UH, WE AT THE MOST THERE WE MIGHT GET A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

WE ALREADY GOT 2000 WHERE WE ARE.

UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S, UH, ALL KINDS OF STORES AND YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARK, YOU KNOW, SO THO THOSE, I'M GONNA PUSH BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT UHHUH, DR.

HORKEY, BECAUSE THOSE PLANS ARE ACTUALLY GETTING FINALIZED ON THE 18TH OF JULY, UHHUH.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME OKAY.

TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE MATTERS WITH OKAY, ALRIGHT.

WITH, WITH COUNSEL AND FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

THE THING IS, IF THE, THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, US AGREEING THAT, THAT, A, WE WANNA STAY ON THE EAST SIDE.

A THIS IS AN ASS FROM THE CITY BI MEAN, SORRY, C, THAT WE'RE IN PHASE ONE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FUNDING JUST TO KIND OF GET US RIGHT TO, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE HA MARY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TOUCHDOWN.

WE'RE 10 YARDS OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.

FIRST INTENT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE, CAN THE MUSIC COMMISSION DESIGN, UH, RECOMMEND A PLAN, UM, OR THIS PLAN SO THAT, UM, AND WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA DECIDE THAT TODAY, RIGHT? DISCUSSION.

SO CAN THE MUSIC COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION AND COME BACK AND RECOMMEND, UM, WE, THIS HAPPEN, WE ASKED FOR 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN THAT.

BUT THAT WAS CONSIDERED, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT AT ALL DOABLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE WE ARE NOW IS OWNED BY THE CITY.

AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE.

'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF SPACE.

AND I'D LIKE IT IF THE CITY COULD JUST KIND OF HOLD ONTO THAT FOR A MUSIC MUSEUM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETIME LATER MAYBE WHEN THERE'S A BOND PACKAGE AND, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, UM, UH, THE, UH, UM, BUT, UH, UH, LIKE I SAID, UH, I THINK, UH, SYLVIA, LIKE YOU SAID, I'M GONNA LET SYLVIA, UH, WE'VE GOTTA, THE THING IS ALSO, OH, I WANTED TO MENTION, UH, WE'VE BEEN GOING FOR GRANT.

WE, AND, AND THAT GRANT THAT WE

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GOT AIR CONDITIONING WAS, HUH? CREATIVE SPACE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, BECAUSE WE WERE IN THAT BUILDING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

NO AIR CONDITIONING AS THE CHURCH, UH, OWNS IT, AN EAST AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE TOP WAS UT AND THEY PAID RENT, BUT THAT'S GONE NOW.

'CAUSE THAT WAS A DIVERSITY PROGRAM.

AND, UH, UH, ANYWAY, SO THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH MONEY.

SO WE, WE WERE LUCKILY ABLE TO, UH, GET A GRANT THAT ALLOWED US TO PUT, UH, AIR CONDITIONING, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE.

IT ALSO GAVE US A LITTLE MONEY TO, UH, PAY FOR THE, THE MATERIAL TO DO A, A NEW AREA OF ALL, UH, ORA AND JUNTO TE MUSIC.

YEAH.

AND, UM, YEAH, AND WE ALSO, WE APPLIED FOR THAT THRIVE.

UH, UH, BUT, UH, AS PAM HART SAID AT THE, WE, WE FOUND OUT THAT THAT'S OPEN AGAIN.

SO WORKING OUT, WE'LL CERTAINLY TRY.

DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT PAM SAID? PAM SAYS, YOU NEED A FEW MORE BLACK PEOPLE ON YOUR BOARD IN ORDER TO GET THAT.

BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY FOR, IT'S BEEN ONLY FOR MINORITY.

RIGHT? AND WE'RE NOT, ALTHOUGH WE'VE DONE SO MUCH WORK IN TERMS OF PRESERVING, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY IN TERMS OF, UH, BLACK AND UH, UH, AMERICAN, WE WERE NOT CONSIDERED MINORITY, YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT'S HOW WE DIDN'T, UH, WE DIDN'T SCORE, UH, ANYTHING ON THAT.

WE'LL TRY IT AGAIN.

UH, MAYBE THIS TIME THEY WON'T BE SO SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M STILL ON THE BOARD OF CARVER MUSEUM, SO I'M VERY INVOLVED WITH, I, I CERTAINLY WANNA SEE, UH, PROGRAMS FOR ASIAN AND, AND AFRICAN AMERICAN AND AND, YOU KNOW, UM, ALL THOSE PROGRAMS NEED TO BE FUNDED.

CERTAINLY NEED TO BE FUNDED.

BUT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO DO OUR SHARE, YOU KNOW, OF THE RESEARCH AND SUCH.

A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE NOT GONE.

YEAH.

I, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION IF, UH, ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY OVER ON 12TH STREET OKAY.

IS, IS THAT PROPERTY FOR SALE? YEAH.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO SYLVIA AND JAY AND NATASHA AND EMMA, AND, OKAY.

UM, I'M GONNA, YEAH, I COULD WE, UM, COULD WE KIND OF, UM, GET BACK INTO THE PRESENTATION, IF THAT'S OKAY? AND JUST WRAP UP, WRAP THAT UP, AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO CALL HER THE SPEAKER SOON.

UM, AND, AND I'LL ALSO OPEN IT UP FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS.

UH, LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND FINISH THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, SYLVIA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

I'M SYLVIA MORALES.

I DO A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WORK AT THE MUSEUM, AND I'M HELPING DR.

KY AND TEAM TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT LEVEL.

UM, ON OUR PRESENTATION, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE TIMELINE CURRENT.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE AT 2000 SQUARE FEET.

WE ONLY HAVE SPACE FOR THREE MAIN EXHIBITS, AND WE HAVE A SMALL CONFERENCE ROOM THAT WE DO PRESENTATIONS AND PERFORMANCES THAT ONLY FIT ABOUT 60 PEOPLE MAX.

SO FOR OUR PHASE ONE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, WE'RE ASKING, OUR ASK IS 3000 SQUARE FEET, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR HOPEFULLY SOME KIND OF STORAGE.

UM, IF NOT, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE HELP FOR BUDGET FOR, UH, STAFFING AND, UM, WE WERE THINKING TO STAY PRETTY LEAN RIGHT NOW.

JAY AND I DO A LOT OF THE LIFTING.

AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE DOCENTS AND, UM, AND WE WOULD LOVE STIPENDS FOR INTERNS AS WELL.

NATASHA HERE WAS ONE OF OUR INTERNS.

AND, UM, AS FAR AS OPERATING BUDGET, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET RENT, UM, SOME MARKETING NUM, UH, MARKETING MONEY, AND ALSO FOR WEBSITE.

AND, UM, AS FAR AS OUR DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, WE WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO DO THAT IN PHASE TWO, SINCE THIS IS OUR INITIAL ONE, PHASE ONE ASK, BUT WE DO DEFINITELY FEEL THAT NEED FOR A DEVELOPMENT OFFICER IN PHASE TWO GOING FORWARD.

UM, SO I GUESS OUR, OUR ASK RIGHT NOW FOR PHASE ONE IS GONNA BE AT AROUND $330,000 TO KEEP US AFLOAT, TO KEEP US GOING WHERE WE'RE INITIALLY AT RIGHT NOW.

UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, UM, IN PHASE TWO TO EITHER GO INTO SOMEWHERE, UM, LIKE DISCUSSIONS OF LIKE WHERE TO GO NEXT.

UM, THAT'S KIND OF OPEN TO LIKE, DISCUSSION FOR ALL OF US HERE TONIGHT.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PLACE WE'D LIKE TO GO, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE OPEN TO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LEONARD GOT WHATEVER WE, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER WE CAN GO, WE WOULD LOVE SOME KIND OF SPACE AND WE WOULD LOVE TO STAY IN EAST AUSTIN.

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UM, AND AS FAR AS STAFFING, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT LINKED.

BUT IN PHASE TWO IS WHEN WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH OTHERS SUCH AS, UM, MARKETING, UH, DEVELOPMENT OFFICER.

UM, WE WOULD EVEN ALSO LOVE TO HAVE AN EDUCATION DIRECTOR AS WELL TO KEEP GOING FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT STAFFING OR, UM, THE, UH, THE THREE 30 K, UH, MM-HMM.

, THE THREE 30 K, UH, THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF, UH, THE 2 0 1 HERE.

I'M SORRY, SAY THAT ONE.

THE THREE 30 K, UH, IS THAT INCLUSIVE OF THE 2 2 0 1 KU? YES.

OKAY.

IT DOES.

YEAH.

THAT'S ALL INCLUSIVE WITH STAFFING AND OPERATIONS.

GOT IT.

UM, ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, DID, DID, DID THE MUSEUM APPLY FOR, UH, UH, THE A A DC, THE CREATIVE, UH, SPACE BONDS, UH, GRANTS AT ALL? OR HAVE YOU WORKED WITH THE A A DC OR WHAT'S NOW CALLED RALLY AUSTIN? NOT RECENTLY, NO.

BUT WE ARE WORKING TO REAPPLY FOR ELEVATE AND ALSO THE THRIVE GRANT TO SEE, I KNOW THAT WE CAN ONLY PROBABLY, IF WE'RE GRANTED BOTH, WE CAN ONLY CHOOSE ONE, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA JUST DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING TO KEEP GOING.

OKAY.

SO YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THE CREATIVE SPACE BOND, RIGHT? THAT WAS, UH, THAT CAME THROUGH A DC, UH, JUST A FEW YEARS BACK.

AND, UH, THEY HAVE SUPPORTED HOLE IN THE WALL AND THE, UH, PDC AND THERE ARE, I THINK, 13 OR 14 MORE CANDIDATES IN THE LINE, UH, THERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THEY HAVE A PRETTY, YEAH.

SUBSTANTIAL PIPELINE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

YEAH, ON THE FIRST PHASE ONE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, MAYBE THAT ONE.

SO PHASE ONE, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

DID YOU SAY YOU NEEDED 3000 SQUARE FEET OR YOU WANTED 13,000 SQUARE FEET? WE WERE LIKE 13,000 MM-HMM.

, YES, PLEASE.

IF POSSIBLE.

IF NOT, WE ARE, WE CAN STAY WHERE WE'RE AT AND THEN KEEP AFLOAT UNTIL, THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION.

IS THERE A A, A TIME LIMIT ON YOUR CURRENT DWELLING DIG? UM, SO WE'RE, WE DEFINITELY NEED SPACE FOR OUR, UM, STORAGE.

THAT TIMELINE IS JANUARY, LIKE WE'LL NEED TO FIND A SPACE FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HOPING TO GET HELP WITH AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN WE NEED HELP WITH RENT, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT, THAT'S ABOUT 18.

SO THE, SO THE ARCHIVE ITSELF HAS A DEADLINE OF JANUARY TO BE REHOUSED? YES.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING FREE HOUSING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SPACE.

WE HAVE UNTIL JANUARY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT NEXT STEPS FOR THAT.

WE HAVE, UM, SO MANY EXHIBITS THERE STILL.

WE HAVE TONS OF ARTIFACTS THERE.

SO IF WE CAN FIND A SPOT, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE SO GRATEFUL.

UM, CURRENTLY WHERE WE'RE AT, WE HAVE ALL OUR REFERENCE MATERIALS, AND WE DO HAVE OTHER ARTIFACTS IN OUR OFFICE, BUT, UM, WE'RE PRETTY LIKE JAMMED UP IN THERE, .

SO, UM, BUT WE CAN KEEP AFLOAT AND STAY IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION IF WE CAN GET HELP WITH RENT.

UM, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD IN PHASE TWO, WE WOULD LOVE A SPACE.

'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S GONNA PROBABLY TAKE TIME TO FIND A PLACE FOR 13,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE JANUARY DEADLINE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UNDERSCORED DURING A PRESENTATION WITH, I I THINK THAT'S A UPCOMING, THAT'S A UPCOMING DEADLINE TO MM-HMM.

.

SO, YEAH.

UH, PIGGYBACKING ON, ON, ON COMMISSIONER KA SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE IMMEDIATE NEED RIGHT NOW IS STORAGE.

THE VERY IMMEDIATE NEED IS THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD EARLIER.

I WAS LIKE, IS YOUR IMMEDIATE NEED RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY RENT, YOU NEED HELP WITH RENT, BUT THE, THESE ARCHIVES ARE IN THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, SOME STORAGE FACILITY.

YES.

THEY HAVE A HUGE WAREHOUSE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND SO WE WE'RE OCCUPYING ABOUT A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UM, WE HAVE TO BE OUT OF THERE BY JUNE, 2025.

JUNE, 2025.

SO OUR, IT'S COMING UP.

YEAH.

SO OUR DEADLINE IS JANUARY TO, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO KEEP, TRYING TO FIND A RIGHT AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF AN EX THEN GIVE YOU AN, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU AN EXTENSION.

SO THIS IS, SOUNDS TO ME LIKE AN IMMEDIATE NEED AT THIS POINT.

YES.

POLICE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT.

MM-HMM.

AND YEAH.

ARE, UH, WAREHOUSE.

RIGHT.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USED TO BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF OUR BUILDING.

SO WE DEVELOPED A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

AH, I SEE.

YEARS.

THERE YOU GO.

ACTUALLY, WAY BACK SQUAD WAS ON THE SECOND, UH, SECOND FLOOR.

AND THEN IT BECAME COMMUNITY, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT, MM-HMM.

REMEMBER, IT'S NOT, NOT, UH, UH, CLIMATE, RIGHT? SO A CLIMATE CONTROL FACILITY, I THINK IS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE, THAT'S SOUNDS TO ME AS AN IMMEDIATE NEED RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S QUITE TO THE, TO THE, UH, POINT OF, OF THIS DISCUSSION IS LISTENING IS LIKE,

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WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT GOING BACK TO, UH, COMMISSIONER CASA, LIKE, HIGHLIGHT THESE THINGS.

I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

THIS IS WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH RENT.

AND, AND, UH, THAT'S AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

YEAH.

AND, AND ALSO THE, THE STORAGE FACILITY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANK, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER AL HERE.

YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO ASK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT'S IN STORAGE.

ARE THERE ANY RECORDINGS AT RISK? SO IN PARTICULAR, THE TYPES OF RECORDINGS THAT ARE MOST AT RISK ARE ANY HISTORICAL VIDEOTAPES, AUDIO TAPES, ANYTHING THAT'S TAPED IS, UH, IT'S DEGRADING RAPIDLY.

YEAH.

IF, IF I MAY JUST ADD ONTO HIS QUESTION.

YEAH.

I, I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE PREDOMINANTLY THE NATURE OF THE ARTIFACTS.

WHAT, I DIDN'T GET THAT.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, ACTUALLY IN THE FACILITY WE'RE IN NOW, THERE'S ABOUT WHAT, EIGHT, NINE CABINETS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, ALL THE VIDEOS.

AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN, UH, DIGITIZED BY, UH, IT, UH, IT, UH, I SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THEIR, AND THEN THE NEXT CABINET IS THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST COLLECTIONS OF TEJANO, UH, LPS.

AND, AND, UH, AND, AND ANYWAY, THEN THE CD SECTION AND THEN, UH, COUNTRY CLASSICAL, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE GOING AROUND THE OTHER, THAT'S EIGHT, UH, TEXAS EIGHT TRACKS AND 70 EIGHTS.

AND THEN THE NEXT CABINETS 40, MOSTLY THERE, BASICALLY 45.

SO, YOU KNOW, LOTS AND LOTS.

BUT INCLUDING, UH, UH, THE, UM, IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED NOW.

COMPLETE INTERVIEWS, YOU KNOW, ON, UH, THAT WE'VE DONE WITH, UH, SO MANY THE MUSICIANS AND A LOT OF 'EM ARE, ARE, HAVE PASSED AND SUCH.

AND THOUGH THAT'S IN THERE.

AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT WHAT, 10 FILE CABINETS ACROSS THE BACK, AND THAT HAS ALL OF THE VERTICAL FILES.

AND ACTUALLY, UH, WE HAVE THIS MONSTROUS, UH, OF COLLECTION OF, UH, UH, PHOTOS.

CAN NATASHA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? SHE'S, UH, JUST GRADUATED, GOT HER MASTER'S IN THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON THE, THE, UH, PHOTO.

SURE.

SAY SOMETHING TO, TO BRIEFLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THOUGH.

UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY AV MATERIALS IN OUR OFFSITE STORAGE.

UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON MOSTLY FILM AND PHOTOGRAPHY IN OUR OFFICE, UM, REHOUSING AND TREATING METADATA AND DIGITALLY SCANNING THEM.

UM, AND SO THE REASON THEY'RE NOT IN THE, OUR OFFSITE STORAGE IS BECAUSE OF THE, THE CHANCE OF THEM DEGRADING AND TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN SOMEWHAT OF A STABLE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY MOST OF OUR STORAGE IS, UM, EXHIBIT MATERIALS.

YEAH.

AND THE BIG STORAGE.

WELL, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

LIKE THE FIRST RECORD CUTTING EQUIPMENT FROM THE FIRST RECORD COMPANY, AND, UM, JUST ALL KINDS OF, UH, UH, PIPE ORGAN PIPES FROM, UH, OTTO HOFFMAN WAS THE GREAT PIPE ORGAN BUILDER AND ONE OF HIS CONSOLES.

AND, UM, JUST ALL KINDS OF, WE, UH, BASICALLY THERE'S A PICTURE THERE.

IT'S ALL THOSE COMPLETE EXHIBITS.

YOU COULD PULL THOSE BOXES OUT AND BRING THAT IN HERE, AND THEN PUT UP COUNTRY OR , PUT UP JAZZ OR WHATEVER.

THEY'RE ALL THE, THEY'RE READY TO GO UP, OF COURSE, UH, AS AS WE PUT THEM UP.

YEAH.

THEY HAVE TO BE KIND OF UPDATED, SOME OF THEM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT, UH, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THERE IS THE, UH, YOU SEE THOSE BOXES AND BOXES AND BOXES.

THOSE ARE ALL A COMPLETE EXHIBIT.

THAT GIVES ME A GOOD, THAT GIVES ME A GOOD IDEA.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO, IN ADDITION TO WHAT NELSON SAID, UH, NOT ONLY IS IT VERY IMPORTANT TO GET THE STORAGE RESOLVED, BUT ALSO INVENTORYING WHAT IT IS AND DETERMINING WHAT IS MOST AT RISK.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MAGNETIC TAPES ARE VERY MUCH AT RISK OF DEGRADATION, VINYL, LPS, NOT SO MUCH.

SO THOSE ARE TO, UH, TO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEED IS BEFORE SOMETHING TRULY IRREPLACEABLE YEAH.

GETS LOST.

THAT'S WE THE SAME WAY, UH, LIKE I SAID, AT LEAST ALL OUR RADIOS HAVE BEEN DIGITIZED.

AND, UH, AND, UH, SO WE'VE BEEN REAL TRYING TO BE REAL CAREFUL, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TRYING TO PRESERVE.

IN FACT, WE HAD A, SOMETHING HAPPENED TODAY THAT WE'RE, UH, WORKING ON.

'CAUSE WE HAVE THE ONLY, UH, THE ONLY, UH, CASSETTE OF, UH, JAY, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

YOU, UM, YES, I'M GETTING READY TO DO A, UH, PRESENTATION AND PERFORMANCE ON SOME OF THESE EAST AUSTIN MUSICIANS THIS FRIDAY.

AND WE HAVE A RECORDING OF MISS JEAN AND THE ROLLETTE.

UM,

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IT'S ON THIS TAPE MACHINE, BUT I TOOK IT HOME FOR THE WEEKEND TRYING TO LEARN SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT SHE WAS USING.

UM, SHE WAS THIS FEMALE BLUES GUITARIST IN THIS MALE DOMINATED INDUSTRY, ESPECIALLY BACK DURING THAT TIME, WHICH YOU DIDN'T REALLY SEE A LOT.

AND IT JUST SUCKS THAT, UM, WE DIDN'T DIGITIZE THAT BEFORE I STARTED USING IT LIKE I WAS, BECAUSE NOW THAT HAS A POTENTIAL TO BE LOST IN, WE FOUND THE GUY IS GONNA FIX IT FOR, SO, OKAY.

.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CAAD.

I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND ON THE BUDGET, UM, BECAUSE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, BASICALLY, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS LIKE A PRO BONO RENTAL SCENARIO FROM EITHER A CORPORATION OR A CITY OFFICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO SOMEONE TO HAVE A TAX WRITE OFF BY STORING YOUR MATERIALS AND ARCHIVES.

BUT BEFORE SOMEONE DOES THAT, I SUSPECT THAT EVERYTHING DOES NEED TO BE INVENTORIED AND INSURED.

AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, INSURANCE IN PLACE AND, AND A VALUE.

YES, WE HAVE WHAT'S REQUIRED.

WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR POLICY.

THAT'S GOOD.

DO YOU THINK YOU'VE COVERED, WE EVEN HAVE A, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? A, A MOTOR VEHICLE POLICY.

AND WE HAVE THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

SO I THINK ARTICULATING THOSE WHEN YOU DO MAKE A PRESENTATION, BECAUSE THE TIME SENSITIVE PIECE IS GETTING THE ARCHIVES INTO A CLIMATE CONTROLLED YEAH.

LONG-TERM SCENARIO, BUT BEING ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS INSURED, WE'RE ABLE TO DO A RENTER'S INSURANCE.

THIS IS THE VALUE, THIS IS.

SO SOMEONE CAN SAY, ALL RIGHT, THIS, THIS IS A WORTHY TAX WRITE OFF FOR THE TIME BEING, AND WE CAN COVER YOU.

BUT PERHAPS, UM, DIGGING INTO THAT, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO FIND A SOLUTION BASED ON YOUR TIMELINE.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR OPENING YOURSELVES UP, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL LIKE, UM, NOT, NOT CRITICISMS. IT'S ALL JUST FROM A PLACE OF LIKE, TRYING TO HELP AND, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GET THE HIVE MIND BEHIND YOU TO HELP, UM, UH, PROVIDE SOLUTIONS FOR THE GREAT AMAZING WORK THAT YOU DO.

ALL OF THE, UH, RECORDINGS, THE VIDEOS, ALL THE EVERYTHING'S INVENTORY, OKAY.

AND EVERYTHING IN THE FILE, EVERY CAN, EVERY FILE CABINET, EVERY DRAWER, YOU CAN LOOK AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S IN ALL THE DRAWERS AND STUFF.

THIS, UH, , WE, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE A, WE'VE PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS.

SO THAT, UH, THE COLLECTION IS AMAZING.

AND OF COURSE, THE, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE, UH, THE PHOTOS, I MEAN, WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF PHOTOS, AND WHAT'S PAULA IS THAT, UH, SHE'S CONTINUING TO WORK, BUT THOSE ARE ALL ARCHIVES.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK UP, SEE WHO'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT PHOTOS WE HAVE.

AND YEAH.

JAY, I WANT YOU TO JUST FINALLY SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW.

ARE YOU, UM, IF, IF I MAY QUICKLY, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER VILLA, YOU HAD SOME COMMENTS, I QUICKLY WANNA CHECK IN WITH COMMISSIONERS ONLINE.

AND JAY, I WOULD, I'LL, UH, IF ARE YOU, IS THE PRESENTATION KIND OF WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO COVER COMPLETED? SO THEN I WOULD, I WOULD JUST GO DOWN THE LIST OF SPEAKERS, UH, THAT WE HAD LISTED HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IF YOU SCROLL THROUGH OUR APPENDIX, YOU'LL SEE OUR FACILITIES, HOW THEY LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW, AND HOW JAM PACKED WE ARE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT.

THANK YOU.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, CLAY, WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DISPLAY EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE.

IS THAT CORRECT? EV, EVENTUALLY, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SO MANY MORE MUSICIANS IN SO MANY AREAS THAN LIKE, COUNTRY OR ROCK AND ROLL.

THAT WOULD TAKE, IT'LL TAKE A REALLY BIG MUSEUM, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, UH, IF WE COULD INCREASE THAT, WE COULD CERTAINLY SHOW OFF A WHOLE LOT MORE OF A DIFFERENT EXHIBIT.

YEAH.

BUT YOU, YOU'D LIKE TO DISPLAY, WE STILL MIGHT HAVE TO ROTATE SOME, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT, BUT YOU'D LIKE TO DISPLAY EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE IN STORAGE.

OH, SO, WELL, NOT EVERYTHING, BUT MOST.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE DO THE COUNTRY ONE AND THEN DO BLUES AND THEN DO, YOU KNOW, PUT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH SPACE WE'VE GOT YEAH.

AT ONE TIME, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU DO IS YOU SPACE, WE, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO KEEP THE AUSTIN SECTION BECAUSE OF THAT.

YEAH.

THE ONE ON EAST AUSTIN, AFRICAN AMERICAN, AND THE MEXICAN AMERICAN TEJANO EXHIBIT.

AND, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A NICE LITTLE EXHIBIT THERE ON AUSTIN COUNTRY, BY THE WAY, THAT YOU MIGHT ENJOY.

AND YOU COULD, UH, HEAR ERNEST TUB ONE, HIS ORIGINAL RECORDING ON A 1920 PHOTOGRAPH AND STUFF.

I, WE, WE LIKE TO SHOW OFF A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL MUSIC ON ORIGINAL, UH, EDISON MACHINES AND TALKING MACHINES, THINGS LIKE THAT, PATROLS.

AND, UH,

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BUT, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, IF, IF WE COULD GET THAT LIKE 13,000, UH, AGAIN, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME WORK AND SOME MONEY TO ACTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FIT THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN, UH, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHY I PUT THE LIST OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT EXHIBITS IN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN EITHER DO SOME OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT ONES OR, OR WE COULD DO SOME AND THEN ROTATE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, YEAH, AND THE BUSINESS IS STORAGE.

WHAT WORRIED ME ABOUT THE PRIVATE IS IT'S, LISTEN, IF YOU COME OFF, YOU'LL SEE HOW MUCH THERE'S IN THERE THAT'S, UH, BE, IT'S COULD BE A HUGE MOVING THING.

SO IF WE CAN GET, UH, SPACE, UH, WE GONNA TAKE SOME MONEY TO MOVE ALL THAT STUFF OVER THERE, UH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GET IT THERE AND THEN HAVE THE COMPANY SAY, WELL, THANK YOU.

WE GAVE YOU FREE SPACE FOR A YEAR, AND I GOTTA MOVE AGAIN.

OR SOMETHING.

IT LIKE, OH MY GOD, YOU KNOW, .

THANK YOU.

UM, UM, COMMISSIONER DAVILA, I THINK, I THINK THE NEED, UH, THE NEED ALSO SEEMS TO BE LIKE, UM, LIKE THE MOST SOLID NEED IS ALSO STORAGE, UH, IS WHAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, I THINK SO AS, AS WE WORK IN, IN, IN THE WORKING GROUP AS WELL WITH, UM, UH, WITH, WITH, UM, UH, WITH FOLKS HERE, UH, FROM THE MUSEUM, UH, ONE THING I THINK TO LOOK AT IS, IS, UH, THE, UH, ABSOLUTE MUST HAVES WHAT IS ON THE CRITICAL PATH.

UH, AND THEN, AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE NICE TO HAVES AND OF COURSE, THE MUSEUM YOURSELVES HAVE A, HAVE A LARGER VISION THAT, YEAH, THAT COULD SEE CT SUPPORT, BUT PROBABLY ALSO NEEDS MUCH BROADER SUPPORT OUTSIDE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY AS WELL.

UM, SO I THINK, UM, I THINK IF WE CAN KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN TO SOME LAYERS, I MEAN, THAT WOULD JUST BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

UM, AND, AND THEN, THEN DECIDE ON WHAT KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE TO COUNCIL.

UH, AGAIN, MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO, UH, UH, TO, UM, KEEP IT, KEEP IT, KEEP IT REAL , SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE, UH, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, UH, WHETHER IT'S IN, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, WHICHEVER ENTITIES WITH, WITH, WITH STAFF, WITH, UH, UH, WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

BUT MAYBE THERE IS SOME HOMEWORK THAT CAN BE DONE THERE TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF, UH, UH, ENGAGEMENT HERE THAT THE CITY CAN OFFER.

UH, NOT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD AND SHOOT BEYOND THAT, BUT, UH, AT LEAST GET THAT BASELINE UN UNDERSTANDING SO WE CAN MAKE A, A, A VIABLE RECOMMENDATION.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN OF COURSE, TO EXPLORE FURTHER OPTIONS WITH THE CITY, UM, UH, COMMISSIONERS ONLINE, IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD OR COMMISSIONER BLEVINS? HI.

UH, YEAH, I DID WANNA INVITE YOU.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

UH, WE GOOD COMMISSIONERS ONLINE.

THANK YOU.

NO WORRIES.

GIVE IT A SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER GOULD.

NO WORRIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, UH, THAT THIS IS ALL I, THIS IS ALL VERY BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH WORK YET TO BE DONE, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IN MORE DETAIL IN THE WORKING GROUP.

AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND FOR SHARING, UH, THE INCREDIBLE WORK YOU'RE DOING.

AND LET'S, LET'S, LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT.

LET'S KEEP TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS.

WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY HERE, HERE FOR IT.

SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD.

UM, UM, I, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, ENOUGH DETAIL, I THINK FROM A COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE THAT KIND OF STILL NEEDS TO BE GRAPHS.

AND LIKE I SAID, UH, WHEN WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS VIABLE, WHAT CAN BE ACTIONED, UH, IF WE CAN, UM, LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL, UH, AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

UH, SO, UM, I THINK TAKING IT BACK TO THE WORKING GROUP, UH, IF WE COULD SPEND SOME MORE TIME ON THIS THROUGH THE, THE MONTH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA, I WOULD YIELD TO YOU.

AND THEN, UH, SYLVIA, IF YOU COULD ALSO, UM, WRAP UP, UH, THE, UH, THE TOPIC, AND THEN I, I WOULD STILL DEFINITELY WANNA GO AHEAD AND CALL IN ON ANYBODY THAT WE HAVE NOT CALLED IN TO SPEAK, COMMISSIONER KEDA.

THIS MAY SOUND KIND OF DAUNTING, BUT, AND I'M, IT MAY BE ON THE PUNCH LIST ALREADY, BUT, UM, ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD HAVE AT SOME POINT IS, UM, NOT ONLY JUST THE EXPENSES, BUT THE REVENUE.

LIKE, WHAT IS YOUR IDEAL REVENUE PLAN? LIKE, SAY, FOR INSTANCE, CERTAIN AMOUNT WOULD BE FROM ADMISSIONS TO THE MUSEUM, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE LOCAL GRANTS, STATE GRANTS, FEDERAL GRANTS, OR, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE DONORS.

BUT TO KIND OF START BREAKING UP, JUST SO SOMETHING PEOPLE CAN REACT TO, SOMETHING OF THE, THE MUSEUM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S PROGRAMMING AND THERE'S SPECIAL EVENTS OR THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SO, SO KIND OF START TEASING OUT

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A BUDGET THAT PEOPLE CAN POKE HOLES IN, THAT MAY, THAT MAY BEHOOVE YOU AS WELL.

YOU, YOU HAVE A SECTION? WELL, WE DID, WE DIDN'T PUT IN THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH, WE, WE DID HAVE A SECTION AT SAKE OF TIME, AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, UM, I THINK, JAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANY COMMENTS? UM, YES.

UH, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.

I THINK THE MUSEUM IS A GREAT SPOT FULL OF BLACK HISTORY, MEXICAN HISTORY, TEXAS HISTORY, WHICH THEN ALSO JUST FEEDS INTO AMERICAN HISTORY.

UM, I'M HOLDING A PRESENTATION AND PERFORMANCE THIS FRIDAY IN ANOTHER DATE IN AUGUST.

I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE ON THE SECOND WHERE I'LL BE, UM, PERFORMING AND GIVING A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE MUSICIANS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR EAST AUSTIN, AFRICAN AMERICAN ROOM, MUSICIANS SUCH AS D JOE, UM, THE LATE WC CLARK, JAMES POLK, MARTIN BANKS, ALL UP TO THE GOSPEL GROUPS, LIKE, UH, THE BELLS OF JOYS, AND, AND THERE'S SO MANY OTHER MUSICIANS WHO HAVE WORKED TO HELP THIS CITY LIVE ON WITH THIS TITLE OF LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

UM, NATASHA LIN, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

HI, I'LL BE BRIEF AS WELL.

UM, I, UH, I'M A RECENT GRADUATE OF THE I SCHOOL WITH MY MASTER'S DEGREE IN INFORMATION STUDIES.

AND IN MY LAST SEMESTER, I WORKED WITH THE TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM TO HELP THEM ARCHIVE, UM, SOME OF THEIR FILM AND PHOTOGRAPHY COLLECTIONS.

UM, THIS PROJECT HELPED THE MUSEUM GAIN MORE INTELLECTUAL CONTROL, UH, OVER THEIR COLLECTIONS BY PROVIDING THEM WITH DETAILED METADATA, DIGITAL IMAGES, A CLEAR ORGANIZATION SYSTEM AND WORKFLOWS FOR THEM TO USE IN THE FUTURE.

THE COLLECTIONS I WORKED ON CAN NOW BE EASILY ACCESSED BY MUSEUM STAFF AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE RESEARCHERS, UM, WITH THE SPORT OF THE CITY, THE MUSEUM COULD DO THIS IMPORTANT HISTORICAL WORK, WHICH WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND INSTILL PRIDE AMONG THE RESIDENTS.

A NEW FACILITY AND ACCESS TO MORE STORAGE WOULD HELP THE MUSEUM ORGANIZE THEIR COLLECTIONS SO THAT THEY COULD BE USED WELL INTO THE FUTURE AND CAN CONTINUE TO TELL THE STORY OF TEXAS MUSIC HISTORY.

UM, A LOT OF THE COLLECTIONS, AS YOU KNOW, ARE AT RISK EVEN WHEN THEY'RE SITTING IN OUR, UM, AIR CONDITIONED, UH, OFFICES.

AND SO THIS WORK IS DEFINITELY TIME SENSITIVE AND, AND IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU, UH, DR.

SHOCKEY ALREADY SPOKE.

UM, SYLVIA, I WILL, I'LL, UH, HOLD FOR A MOMENT.

UM, EMMA HAYES, THANK, UH, THANK YOU ALL.

UM, FOR, FOR, UH, WHAT I'M FEELING IS THE ACTUAL REAL SUPPORT.

UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, UH, SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON.

NOT OFTEN YOU'LL FIND, I BELIEVE, MUSEUMS THAT ARE SPRINGING UP FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UH, MANY TIMES THEY'RE COMING FROM MANY PLACES, AND THEY CERTAINLY HAVE NOT BEEN SUPPORTED BY SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE AUSTIN DESERVES IT.

THIS MUSEUM DESERVES IT, AND I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE SUPPORT, I ACTUALLY BELIEVE, AND I'M, I'M SO ENCOURAGED BY WHAT I'M HEARING, THE, THE, THE HELP IN TERMS OF THE, THE VISION WORK, IN TERMS OF BUDGET DEVELOPMENT, IN TERMS OF ALL ASPECTS OF DEVELOPMENT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR VISION IS TREMENDOUS.

YES, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS DONE NEXT YEAR, BUT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THE SPACE ISSUES.

WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A SPACE THAT WE CAN'T UTILIZE ALL OF THAT SPACE.

YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO EVEN OCCUPY MORE OF IT, BUT THAT TAKES RESOURCES AS WELL TO TRY TO, AND, AND, AND HELP US TO GROW.

I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO CONTINUE TO WALK WITH US.

AND AGAIN, REAL, I KNOW EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD EXCITED WITH THE POTENTIAL THAT WE ARE FEELING NOW.

WE'VE NEVER FELT THAT BEFORE, THAT THAT GRAPHIC WORK IS SAW EARLY ON, IT BECOMES EVEN MORE BLAZE BLAZED.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP OVERLAPPING BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT STEPS.

THANK YOU'ALL.

THANK SO MUCH.

AND, UH, I DO, I DO WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE, UH, TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT, UH, I MEAN, YOU'RE VERY WELCOME TO COME AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SPEND TIME WITH US HERE.

UM, IT, UM, I, UH, WE SPENT A GOOD 50, 45, 50 MINUTES ON THIS.

THE ONLY REASON I'M, UM, REQUESTING THAT WE MOVE IT BACK TO A WORKING GROUP AND THEN BRING IT BACK AGAIN, IS BECAUSE THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A NEED TO UNDERSTAND, EVEN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE DETAILS MUCH BETTER.

AND WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN SHARED TODAY, AND ALSO IN THE, IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED.

UM, SO, UH, I THINK,

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UH, JUST TO, UH, PRACTICALLY ABSORB ALL OF THAT AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ACT ON IT, UH, MM-HMM, , IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME, I THINK.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND AND SPEND THE TIME ON IT TO UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES.

AND AGAIN, AS I SAID, UM, PRESENT SOMETHING THAT IS VIABLE, BECAUSE IF WE JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP BY ANYBODY, THEN IT'S NOT HELPING US, ANYONE, ANYONE IN ANY WAY.

UH, SO I DEFINITELY WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I, WE HAVE HAD LONGER CONVERSATIONS ON SOME TOPICS THAN THIS IN THE PAST.

SO THIS IS, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS FINE.

UH, BUT, BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO TAKE IT BACK AND, AND SPEND SOME MORE TIME ON THIS.

BUT, UH, SYLVIA, IF I MAY REQUEST YOU TO, UM, UH, COMPLETE THE TOPIC.

YES, THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT OUR EVENTS.

WE HAVE MANY FUN EVENTS.

THEY TALKED ABOUT HIS, UM, JOHN LOMAX.

THE THIRD WILL BE GIVING A SPECIAL PRESENTATION AND PERFORMANCE ON JULY 19TH.

HE IS THE GRANDSON AND SON AND NEPHEW OF ETHNOMUSICOLOGIST WHO ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR WORK WITH THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS.

AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH MORE PROGRAMMING FOR CHILDREN IN TITLE ONE SCHOOLS.

WE ALSO WORK WITH SENIOR CENTERS, UH, AND WE WORK TO HIGHLIGHT PERFORMANCES, UM, REPRESEN, UH, FOR, AND WE HIGHLIGHT UNDERREPRESENTED EAST AUSTIN MUSICIANS AND ALSO TEXAS MUSICIANS ALL OVER THE STATE.

AND THE LAST SCHOOL WE HOSTED WAS, UH, THE BARBARA JORDAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

WE HAD GREAT FUN WITH THEM.

WE HAD MATTHEW ROBINSON IN HIS BAND PLAY FOR THEM.

SO THAT WAS GREAT FUN.

AND, UM, BUT YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CLOSING.

WE'RE IMMENSELY GRATEFUL THAT YOU GUYS HEARD US AGAIN TONIGHT.

AND, UM, WE SU WE WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT YOU SUPPORT US IN CONTINUING, CONTINUING TEXAS MUSIC PRESERVATION EFFORTS.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TOO, TO PROBABLY EVERYONE HERE IN THIS ROOM.

SO, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

I, I, I WANNA APOLOGIZE, , I, I THOUGHT THAT WAS DON JACKSON AND JUAN TORRES.

WELL, BECAUSE I, THEY HAD THE NAMES AND I, I REALLY APOLOGIZE.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST DIDN'T QUITE GET THAT, THAT, THAT LAURA AND, AND, UH, UM, AND ANYWAY, I, I WONDER WHY THEY DIDN'T PUT THEIR NAMES.

THEY PUT SOMEBODY ELSE'S NAMES.

GOT ME CONFUSED.

, THAT'S, THAT'S WEBEX.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

THE .

AND, AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW FOR THE MEMORIAL FOR, UM, UM, JAMES POLK.

AND WE'LL ALSO LET YOU KNOW FOR THE MEMORIAL FOR MICHAEL.

AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF THE FOLKS THAT DO THOSE FOR PEOPLE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AGAIN TODAY.

ALRIGHT, JUST A QUICK TIME CHECK.

IT'S EIGHT 40.

UH, WE GOT A, UH, COUPLE OF OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. UH, PLEASE.

UH, LET'S TRY TO KEEP, UH, THESE AT A CERTAIN PACE SO WE CAN, UH, GET DONE, UH, THROUGH WITH THE AGENDA.

I THINK, UH, I, I THINK THESE WILL MOVE FAST.

UH, NUMBER SIX IS UPDATE

[6. Update regarding the Economic and Cultural District Framework Policy by Matthew Schmidt, Global Business Expansion Division, Program Manager III.]

REGARDING THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT FRAMEWORK POLICY, BUT MATTHEW SCHMIDT, UH, GLOBAL BUSINESS EXPANSION DIVISION PROGRAM MANAGER THREE.

THANK YOU.

HERE WE GO.

HERE WE GO.

UH, GOOD EVENING CHAIR, MATT, CHARLIE, VICE CHAIR PATTERSON AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME'S MATTHEW SCHMIDT.

I'M A PROGRAM MANAGER THREE WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

I OVERSEE OUR CHAPTER THREE 80 INCENTIVE POLICIES, UH, AND OUR ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT INITIATIVES.

UH, TODAY I AM HERE TO PRESENT TO Y'ALL THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT FRAMEWORK POLICY THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

UH, TODAY, I'LL BE STARTING WITH JUST A BRIEF HISTORY ON THE CITY'S APPROACH, OR WHAT I LIKE TO SAY, KIND OF LACK THEREOF, UH, OF OUR APPROACH TO THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS AND HOW WE HAVE BEEN RESOURCING THEM.

UH, SO AS I HAVE SAID, THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS NO UNIFORM APPROACH TO ADDRESSING OUR ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS, UH, AND CONFUSING THAT SITUATION EVEN MORE IS THE, UH, MULTIPURPOSE TERM, UH, OR MULTIPURPOSE USE OF THE TERM DISTRICTS.

UH, IT IS USED, UH, IN SMALL AREA PLANNING, UH, WITH THE PALM DISTRICT PLAN, UTILIZED IN HISTORIC DESIGNATION, WHICH IS REGULATORY INCENTIVES, UH, AROUND ZONING, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, WHICH IS A, A VALUE RECAPTURE TOOL, WHICH IS A SELF-ASSESSMENT OF, UH, TAX ASSESSMENTS, UH, OR EVEN COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT CONFUSES THE, UH, LANGUAGE AROUND HOW DISTRICTS ARE APPLIED, WHO IS ACTUALLY, UH, UTILIZING, UH, DISTRICTS, WHAT ARE THEY, UH, USED FOR, WHAT'S THEIR ROLE, WHAT THEIR IMPACTS

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ARE, AND HOW WE ACTUALLY RESOURCE THEM.

UH, SO THIS, UH, POLICY'S GOAL IS TO DEFINE THOSE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS, UH, DIFFERENTIATE THEM, UH, DEFINE THOSE ROLES AND IMPACTS, UH, AND THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCING, UH, FOR THEM BY DEPARTMENTS.

UH, SO FIRST TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE, UH, CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

OF COURSE, CULTURAL DISTRICTS CAN BE, CAN REP BE REPRESENTED BY A COLLECTION OF CULTURAL ASSETS, UH, OR SPECIFIC HERITAGE.

UH, THE CITY'S HAS APPROACHED CULTURAL DISTRICTS SO FAR BY, UH, THROUGH DISTRICT REC RECOGNITION RESOLUTIONS.

UH, AND ALL THESE HAVE BEEN REALLY ACTIONS, UH, THAT HAVE, UH, REALLY LACKED THE HOLISTIC TOOLS THAT HAVE RESOURCED CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN THEIR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THESE ACTIONS HAVE REALLY JUST BEEN A STEP OF RECOGNIZING THESE SPACES SO THAT THESE, UH, DISTRICTS, UH, ONCE THEY'VE ACHIEVED THEIR DISTRICT MANAGEMENT ENTITY CAN ACHIEVE THEIR RECOGNITION THROUGH THE STATE, UH, DISTRICT, UH, CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION, UH, THROUGH THE TE TEXAS COMMISSION ON THE ARTS.

UH, AND JUST BRIEFLY, THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON THE ARTS IS THE STATE OF TEXAS IS, UH, OFFICIAL DEPARTMENT THAT LEADS THE CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION, UH, PROGRAM.

UH, THEY OFFER A STATE FUNDING, UH, PROGRAM TO THESE CULTURAL DISTRICTS THAT OFFER, UH, A DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDING TO NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE, UH, IN THE DISTRICTS.

AND IT'S CURRENTLY ONE OF THE ONLY FUNDING, UH, MECHANISMS TO SUPPORT DISTRICTS AS WELL AS UNLOCKING THAT OFFICIAL DESIGNATION, UH, FOR DISTRICTS TO PURSUE FUNDING ON A NATIONAL LEVEL AS WELL.

UH, THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON THE ARTS CULTURAL DISTRICTS REALLY FOCUSES ON CULTURAL ASSETS WITHIN A, A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARY, UH, AS WELL AS THE NONPROFITS IN THOSE AREAS.

UH, AND OF COURSE DOESN'T REALLY LOOK AT THE LOST HISTORIES WITHIN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.

SO THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, TRYING TO EXPAND THE DEFINITIONS AROUND THAT.

UH, LOOKING AT THE CULTURAL DISTRICTS, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS DESIGNATED, WE HAVE FOUR RECOGNIZED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, STARTING WITH OUR FIRST ONE BACK IN 2007.

UH, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT, OR NOW THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL, UH, HERITAGE DISTRICT, UH, THAT IS OUR FIRST CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND THEN THEY PURSUED AND, UH, RECEIVED THEIR STATE CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION, I BELIEVE IN 2009.

UH, THE SECOND CULTURAL DISTRICT THAT WAS DESIGNATED WAS THE FIFTH STREET MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE CORRIDOR IN 2011, WHICH STRETCHES FROM REPUBLIC PARK, UH, TO PLAZA SALTILLO.

UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THEM AND DEVELOPING THEIR CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION, OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT ORGANIZATION, UH, WHILE THEY PURSUE THEIR CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION ON A STATE LEVEL.

UH, THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT DE UH, WAS DESIGNATED IN 2013 AND THEY ACHIEVED THEIR STATE DESIGNATION IN 2020.

AND THEN IN THE LATEST CULTURAL DISTRICT THAT WAS DESIGNATED, UH, THAT IS CURRENTLY STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT, IS THE SOUTH SHORE CULTURAL DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY FOR ECONOMIC DISTRICTS.

THESE ARE TYPICALLY IDENTIFIED BY THEIR BUSINESS CHARACTERISTICS.

UH, AND THE CITY'S APPROACH TO THOSE BEGAN SPECIFICALLY IN 2014 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOLI AUSTIN PROGRAM, WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

UH, THIS PROGRAM WAS A PLACE-BASED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, WHICH FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING, UH, VIBRANT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DISTRICTS, UH, THROUGH THE CREATION OF MERCHANTS ASSOCIATIONS.

UH, THE SO AUSTIN PROGRAM HELPED DEVELOP THESE, UH, AREAS THROUGH A THREE-PRONGED APPROACH OF SUPPORTING, UH, THESE AREAS THROUGH COMMUNITY ORGANIZING, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGIC PLANNING.

UH, THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, WE HAVE FOSTERED THE DEVELOPMENT OF SIX, UH, UH, UH, UH, ECONOMIC DISTRICTS.

UH, THE LOGOS OF THOSE AREAS ARE DISPLAYED ON THE, UH, UH, SCREEN ON OUR, OUR SLIDE.

AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH TWO AREAS, UH, UH, RIGHT NOW TO ONBOARD THE SOUTH FIRST STREET DISTRICT IN ALDRICH STREET AT MILLER.

UH, SOME PROGRAM DETAILS WITH THE, WITHIN THAT AREA, UH, WITHIN OUR PROGRAM THAT I'M SHARING.

UH, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL BUDGET THAT WE DO, UH, SUPPORT OUR DISTRICTS WITH 362,000 A YEAR, UH, THAT SUPPORTS ALL OF OUR DISTRICT WORK THAT WE TRY TO ACCOMPLISH.

UH, AND THAT'S PRETTY LIMITED FOR SUPPORTING TYPICALLY ABOUT EIGHT DISTRICTS, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, WHEN TYPICALLY THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS, UH, RANGING AROUND 300,000 ANNUALLY TO SUPPORT ONBOARDING ONE DISTRICT.

UH, SO IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH OUR WORK WHEN, UH, WITH LIMITED FINANCIAL CAPACITY.

SO THERE'S A VERY BIG NEED, UH, FOR US TO COMPLETE THIS POLICY WORK SO THAT WE HAVE ORGANIZED PROCESS, UH, TO SUPPORT OUR ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS AS A WHOLE.

UH, SO OF COURSE, THE POLICY INTENDS TO REFRAME AND ORGANIZE THE CITY'S APPROACH TO THESE SPACES.

SO WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY? IT'S TO PROVIDE

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OUR COMMUNITY AND POLICY MAKERS THE GUIDANCE TO IDENTIFY, ORGANIZE, AND RESOURCE OUR CITY'S ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

SO THE PURPOSE, OF COURSE, IS DES.

UH, THIS WHOLE POLICY WAS DESIGNED BY OUR ECONOMIC AND CULT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND SPECIFICALLY THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT TEAM.

UH, AND THIS POLICY WAS GROUNDED IN OUR BEST PRACTICE RESEARCH OF NATIONWIDE, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DISTRICT PROGRAMS LIKE SAN FRANCISCO, UH, PORTLAND, UH, TACOMA, WASHINGTON HAS A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT PROGRAM THAT WE BASED A LOT OF OUR POLICY WORK ON, UH, PRACTICAL RESEARCH FROM OUR EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE SOLI AUSTIN PROGRAM, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH OUR CULTURAL DISTRICTS, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE CONDUCTED WITH PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS THROUGH OUR PROGRAMS LIKE SOLI AUSTIN, AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL RESEARCH WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS AS WELL.

UH, WE OF COURSE LOOKED AT THE, UH, BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THIS POLICY.

AND OF COURSE, THAT COMES WITH RECOGNITION OF ECONOMIC BENEFITS THROUGH, UH, OUR ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

AND THAT'S, UH, ITEMS LIKE BUSINESS RETENTION AND ATTRACTION, THAT THESE AREAS WILL BRING THE ECONOMIC DIVERSIFICATION THAT CAN BE SEEN THROUGH ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

UH, THESE AREAS CAN BRING HUBS OF ARTISTIC EXPRESSION AND FOSTER INNOVATION, UH, AND OF COURSE, ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND LIVABILITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY.

UH, THE NEED FOR THESE AREAS, OF COURSE, RECOGNIZES THE NEED FOR A UNIFORM, UNIFORM APPROACH FOR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE SUCCESSES.

SO HOW DO WE DEFINE DISTRICTS? UH, BY LOOKING AT THEIR PHYSICAL, GEOGRAPHICAL, AND CULTURAL CHARACTERISTICS, BY KIND OF LOOKING AT HOW THESE, UH, DISTRICTS ARE MADE UP.

AND OF COURSE, THAT IS HOW WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH AN OVERARCHING DEFINITION FOR DISTRICTS.

UH, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO PREFACE THAT WITH DISTRICTS, THEY ALL COME IN DIFFERENT SHAPES AND SIZES.

SO WHILE WE HAVE MADE A DEFINITION, WE ALWAYS RECOGNIZE, RISE, RECOGNIZE, UH, THAT THESE ARE COMMUNITY DRIVEN AREAS, AND THAT WHILE WE HAVE SET A STANDARD DEFINITION, WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO LISTEN TO THE VISION OF COMMUNITY, UH, WHEN THEY COME TO US, AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, UH, THAT WHAT THEY BRING TO US HAS SUSTAINABLE CHARACTERISTICS, UH, OF WHAT AN ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT CAN BE.

UH, AND WE'RE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UH, BUT BASED ON OUR BEST PRACTICE RESEARCH, WE'VE A DEFINED, UH, AN ECONOMIC CULTURAL DISTRICT AS LOOKING AT A COMPACT AREA OF ABOUT ONE FOURTH TO ONE AND A HALF MILES LONG, UH, WITH RICH AND CREATIVE CULTURAL AND COMMERCIAL ASSETS, CONCENTRATIONS OF CREATIVE CULTURAL ENTERTAINMENT, HERITAGE, UH, AGAIN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTIVE COMMERCE, UH, AND MAKING USE OF A VARIETY OF ECONOMIC VALUE CAPTURE AND REGULATORY TOOLS.

AND THEN WE, OF COURSE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE STEWARDED BY A NON-PROFIT OR INDEPENDENT DISTRICT MANAGEMENT ENTITY THAT'S INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, BUT OF COURSE, WE HAVE TOOLS AND RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP LIFT UP THOSE AREAS OR LIFT UP THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO GET TO THAT STATUS.

THE TYPES OF DISTRICTS, AGAIN, THERE'S A VARIETY OF TYPES OF DISTRICTS, UH, THAT CAN BE, THAT FALL UNDER THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

SO THE CASINOS ON YOUR SCREEN, UH, WE LOOK AT ECONOMIC DISTRICTS.

THOSE ARE YOUR TYPICAL BUSINESS DISTRICTS THAT JUST HAVE A HIGH PROPORTION OF COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT OR CULTURAL VALUE IN THEM.

ENTERTAINMENT OR MUSIC DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE, HAVE, HAVE HIGH VALUE OR HIGH PROPORTION OF LIVE MUSIC VENUES.

CULTURAL AND ARTS.

ARTS AND CULTURAL USES, MUSEUMS, HERITAGE, WHICH ARE VERY FOCUSED ON YOUR HERITAGE AND HISTORIC SITES.

AND THEN AGAIN, SMALL BUSINESS, VERY FOCUSED ON YOUR RETAIL, UH, LOCATIONS LIKE YOUR SOUTH CONGRESS, UH, DISTRICTS, UH, AND SOUTH FIRST DISTRICTS.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AN ALL-INCLUSIVE LIST OF TYPES OF DISTRICTS.

WE, AGAIN, WILL ALWAYS LISTEN TO COMMUNITY AS THEY DESIGN AND BUILD UP THEIR OWN TYPES OF DISTRICTS, AND THEY LOOK AT THEIR OWN IDENTITY AND BRING TO US WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE WOULD BE A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL MISSION AND HAS THOSE SUSTAINABLE CHARACTERISTICS, UH, TO BRING TO US, UH, FOR DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A VERY STABLE, UH, UH, POLICY.

WE'D ESTABLISHED SOME REALLY GREAT SETS OF VALUE, UH, VALUES AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

AND THIS, AGAIN, WAS DEVELOPED THROUGH OUR EXPERIENCE AND DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED.

AND THESE HELP US SET THE DIRECTION AND DEVELOPMENT AND RECOGNITION OF THESE RICH AND, UH, CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS.

AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE REALLY ONE FOR ONE, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UH, AND VALUES.

SO OUR FIRST ONE IS COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT AND STEWARDSHIP.

AND THIS IS EMPOWERING LOCAL COMMUNITIES WITH ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN STEWARDSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS, FOSTER GRASSROOTS ENGAGEMENT AND ORGANIZATION TO ENSURE THE RESIDENTS, SMALL BUSINESSES, CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND INSTITUTIONS HAVE A MEANINGFUL VOICE IN SHAPING THE DISTRICT'S FUTURE.

THE SECOND ONE IS PRESERVATION AND PROMOTION OF

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CULTURAL IDENTITY.

PRESERVING AND CELEBRATING THE PROMOTION OR PROMOTE THE UNIQUE CULTURAL HERITAGE AND IDENTITY OF ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS ENSURE THAT CULTURAL ASSETS, TRADITIONS, AND STORIES ARE HONORED AND SHARED WITH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS CONTRIBUTING TO A SENSE OF PRIDE AND BELONGING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

THE THIRD IS EQUITABLE ACCESS TO RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES, PROMOTING THE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, RESOURCES, AND AMENITIES WITHIN THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS, IMPLEMENTING OUT POLICIES AND INITIATIVES THAT ADDRESS SYSTEMIC BARRIERS TO ACCESS, SUCH AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, ENSURING THAT ALL RESIDENTS CAN BENEFIT FROM THE DISTRICT'S DEVELOPMENT.

OUR FOURTH IS SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, PROMOTING SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP WITHIN THE DISTRICTS, INTEGRATING GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, RENEWABLE ENERGY, AND SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES INTO DISTRICT PLANNING AND OPERATIONS TO MINIMIZE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND ENHANCE RESILIENCE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND OUR FINAL IS ECONOMIC CLUSTERING, WHICH PROMOTES COLLABORATION, NETWORKING, AND SHARED RESOURCES, FOSTERING GROWTH AND RESILIENCE WITHIN THE LOCAL ECONOMY, ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO LEVERAGE EACH OTHER'S STRENGTHS, ATTRACT CUSTOMERS, AND COLLECTIVELY CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIBRANCY AND IDENTITY OF NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY.

OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS POLICY IS ROOTED IN ALIGNMENT WITH CITY OF PO, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN.

POLICY AND PLANS, AS LISTED ON YOUR SLIDE IS SEVERAL POLICY ALIGNMENTS THAT WE HAVE NOTED.

I WON'T GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE, BUT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THEM, OF COURSE, WE ALIGN THIS POLICY WITH IMAGINE AUSTIN, UH, WHICH CALLS FOR PROMOTING MUSIC, ART, AND CULTURAL PROGRAMMING AND FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THE CREATION OF COMPLETE COMMUNITIES, UH, THE MUSIC AND CREATIVE ECOSYSTEM AND STABILIZATION RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WHICH CALLS FOR THE CREATION OF AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACES.

UH, THE CULTURAL TOURISM PLAN, WHICH ASKS FOR FOSTERING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND SUPPORTING THE CREATION OF NEIGHBOR OR MERCHANTS ASSOCIATIONS OR DISTRICT MANAGEMENT ENTITIES, UH, AS WELL AS THE THRIVING IN PLACE REPORT, UH, WHICH CALLS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, UH, AND ROLES OF DISTRICTS IN THE CULTURAL CHARACTER AND ENHANCEMENTS OF THE AREA.

UH, AND I WAS JUST AT THE DOWNTOWN, UH, COMMISSION, AND I WAS ASKED TO INCLUDE THE DOWNTOWN ACTION PLAN ON THIS, UH, LIST OF POLICY ALIGNMENT.

SO WE'LL BE INCLUDING THAT IN THE POLICY AS WELL.

UH, ANOTHER KEY PORT PART OF THIS POLICY IS, OF COURSE, ORGANIZING THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO OUR DISTRICTS.

UH, THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES TO OUR DISTRICTS, UH, AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS THE LACK OF TOOLS THAT ARE ORGANIZED FOR THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, SO NOW WE ARE BEING ABLE TO, UH, KIND OF CORRAL THEM INTO A SINGLE POLICY FOR ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS, THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED ALREADY, AND THOSE THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD, UH, TO BE ABLE TO EFFICIENTLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM, UH, AND BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE WHAT THEY CAN TAP INTO FOR THEIR GROWTH AND SUSTAINABILITY.

UH, ON YOUR SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU IS A FOLLOWING, IS A CURRENT IS A LIST OF THE CURRENT AVAILABLE TOOLS FOR ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS TO TAKE, UH, UH, OR TO TAP INTO.

UH, THESE TOOLS, UH, CAN COME IN THE FORM OF ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH IS OUND OMBUDSMAN SUPPORT, UH, FROM OUR ECONOMIC ADULT, UH, CULTURAL DISTRICT TEAM, UH, SUPPORT FROM ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND ANY KIND OF, UH, OTHER ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT THROUGH OUR SO AUSTIN PROGRAMS, UH, FINANCIAL SUPPORT THAT WE PROVIDE THROUGH OUR BUSINESS PARTNERING PROGRAMS OR ANY KIND OF REGULATORY SUPPORT.

AS Y'ALL KNOW, UH, DONALD JACKSON, WHO IS ON THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT TEAM HAS BEEN DOING SOME EXCELLENT WORK, UH, WITH THE CREATIVE DISTRICT OVERLAY.

UH, SO WHEN THOSE, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITIES ARE APPROPRIATE, WE CAN APPLY THOSE SPECIFIC TOOLS, UH, FOR THOSE DISTRICTS.

UH, THE TOOLS WILL BE EVALUATED ON A REGULAR BASIS BY OUR STAFF SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE, UH, FIGURING OUT NEW AND INNOVATIVE WAYS, UH, TO SUSTAIN OUR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT AND PROGRAMMING.

A COUPLE OF THE KEY TOOLS ON OUR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT I LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING, UH, ARE THE EQUITABLE CULTURAL FUNDING MODELS.

UH, THAT IS, UH, A NEW TOOL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PITCHING TO COUNCIL FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR OUR EXISTING CULTURAL DISTRICTS, UH, THAT IS TRYING TO ESTABLISH A FUNDING MODEL FOR THEIR SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS.

UH, THAT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT'LL BE A NEW BUDGET REQUEST, UH, FOR EXISTING DISTRICTS, UH, FOR ORGANIZATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY, UH, AND ACTIVITIES THAT WILL SUSTAIN THEIR PRO, UH, PLACE-BASED ACTIVITIES, UH, FOR THEIR DISTRICT.

UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, DISTRICT IDENTITY AGREEMENTS.

UH, AS Y'ALL DRIVE THROUGH SEVERAL OF OUR DISTRICTS LIKE SOUTH CONGRESS OR RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, UH, YOU'LL SEE, UH, PROJECTS LIKE THE BANNERS OR STREET SIGNS.

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UH, THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, COMPLETED IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS PARTNERS.

UH, AND WE, UH, WORK REALLY WELL WITH THE, UH, THAT DEPARTMENT IN TRYING TO, UH, AGREE TO, UH, VERY REDUCED FEES, UH, TO MINIMALLY IMPACT, UH, THE DISTRICTS, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN DE DISPLAY THEIR IDENTITY AND CHARACTERISTICS, UH, FOR VISITORS AND TOURISTS TO ENJOY.

ASIDE FROM THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES, UH, THIS POLICY IS NOW ALSO GOING TO GROUND A PROCESS, UH, FOR US TO, UH, TRY AND ACTUALLY RECOGNIZE OUR DISTRICTS, UH, IDENTIFYING IDENTIFICATION AND RECOGNITION FOR OUR DISTRICTS HAS LACKED UNIFORMITY.

UH, SO THIS POLICY IS LOOKING TO SOLVE THAT AND PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND FOR OUR COUNCIL, UH, SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE OUR FUTURE DISTRICTS APPROPRIATELY.

WE'VE BROKEN THIS RECOGNITION PROCESS INTO TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

OF COURSE, OUR ECONOMIC DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE OUR BUSINESS DISTRICTS AND OUR CULTURAL DISTRICTS, UH, THEY HAVE SIMILAR PROCESSES, BUT OUR CULTURAL DISTRICTS ARE LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, HIGHLY SCRUTINIZED JUST BECAUSE OF THE, UH, PROCESS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH AT A STATE LEVEL TO ACHIEVE THEIR, UH, CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION.

UH, SO LOOKING AT THE ECONOMIC DISTRICTS FIRST, UH, THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE ASKING, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO GO THROUGH ONCE THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED A SPECIFIC AREA, OR IF COUNCIL HAS INITIATED AND SOUGHT OUT A SPECIFIC AREA, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO US WITH A LETTER OF INTENT.

UH, AND THEN ALSO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA, IDENTIFYING THE, UH, STAKEHOLDERS OF THAT SPECIFIC AREA, UH, AND GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, AND PROVIDING US A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF SUPPORT IN THAT, UH, IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA.

UH, RIGHT NOW THE POLICY IS CALLING FOR A 51%, UH, SUPPORT OF THAT AREA, WHICH MATCHES OUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT POLICY.

UH, BUT WE'RE OPEN FOR CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE LOOKS LIKE.

UH, OUR SOLELY AUSTIN PROGRAM SETS THE BAR A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND ENSURING THAT BUSINESSES THAT PARTICIPATE IN OUR PROGRAM ARE AT LEAST AT 75%.

UH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT SWEET SPOT OF WHAT IS THE BEST, UH, UH, PARTICIPATION RATE, UH, TO ENSURE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THESE DISTRICTS AND EN ENSURE THEIR OPERATIONAL STATUS, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

UH, OF COURSE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR DEMONSTRATION OF ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, CAPACITY FOR THESE AREAS, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THEY WILL BE SUSTAINABLE DISTRICTS MOVING FORWARD.

UH, AND OF COURSE, IF ANY DISTRICT COMES TO US AND NEEDS ASSISTANCE IN THESE AREAS, UH, OF, OF ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, OF EVEN GETTING COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION TO GET TO THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, THEY CAN COME TO THE CITY AND TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THOSE, UH, SERVICES THROUGH OUR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES LIKE SO AUSTIN, UH, TO SUPPORT THOSE, UH, THAT WORK ONCE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPORT, THE, THE LETTERS OF SUPPORT, THE ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, CAPACITY.

UH, ANOTHER, UH, ITEM THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PROVIDE IS A DISTRICT STRATEGY OR, OR AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

AND I ALSO LIKE TO KIND OF CALL THAT THAT'S YOUR FIVE-YEAR ACTION PLAN, ESSENTIALLY, FOR AN ORGANIZATION, UH, WE NEED THEM TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY HAVE AN IDEA OR A VISION FOR THEIR ORGANIZATION MOVING FORWARD.

UH, SO ONCE THEY'VE BEEN, AND THAT IS ANOTHER, JUST TO KIND OF ASIDE, THAT'S ANOTHER KIND OF TOOL THAT WE HAVE SERVICES FOR WITHIN EDD, THAT IF A DISTRICT COMES TO US AND NEEDS SUPPORT WITH THAT, WE CAN SUPPORT THEM WITH THAT.

UH, WITH OUR SOLELY AUSTIN SERVICES, UH, PENDING RESOURCES, UH, ONCE THEY HAVE ALL OF THOSE ITEMS IN PLACE, UH, THEY CAN SUBMIT THAT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

OUR ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS TEAM WILL REVIEW THAT.

UH, AND AS LONG AS IT MEETS ALL OF OUR CRITERIA, WE'LL SUBMIT OUR RE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

UH, WE'LL ALSO REVIEW THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ALL OF OUR TOOLS, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE APPLY ALL THE APPROPRIATE TOOLS AND RESOURCES TO THE DISTRICT, UH, AND SUBMIT THAT TO OUR DIRECTOR FOR APPROVALS.

AND THAT WILL OFFICIALLY ADOPT THAT SPECIFIC DISTRICT INTO RECOGNITION WITH THE CITY.

ON THE CULTURAL DISTRICT SIDE, THEY'LL GO THROUGH A SIMILAR PROCESS, BUT TO INCREASE THEIR OVERSIGHT, UH, WE'LL BE ASKING THAT THEY PROVIDE US A LITTLE BIT MORE DEMONSTRATION AROUND THE CULTURAL ASSETS OF THEIR AREA.

UH, AND THEN BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE THE ACTUAL ESTABLISHING ORDINANCE FOR THEIR SPECIFIC AREA, THEY'LL BE GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGOROUS PROCESS OF REVIEW BY GOING THROUGH COMMISSION REVIEWS, UH, RELATED TO THEIR SPECIFIC, UH, CHARGE.

UH, SO IF THEY ARE A LIVE MUSIC DISTRICT, WE WOULD, OF COURSE WANT TO BRING THEM IN FRONT OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION SO THAT Y'ALL WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEIR, UH, THEIR, UH, UH, APPLICATION PER SE.

UH, AND THEN THEY WOULD ALSO GO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, AND THEY WOULD, OF COURSE, GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS, UH, OF BEING RECOMMENDED FOR THE TOOLS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR SPECIFIC SPACE.

UH, THIS ALLOWS US FOR A, A, A CLEAN, A CLEANER PROCESS OF RECOGNITION,

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UH, AND ALLOWS US TO, UH, UH, PROVIDE A, A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIFORM PROCESS OF, OF, UH, OF DISTRICT, UH, OF, OF DISTRICT, UH, RECOGNITION AS A WHOLE.

UH, SO ASIDE FROM THE POLICY, I DO WANT TO NOTE THE DISTRICT, THE CURRENT INITIATIVES THAT OUR ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT, UH, UH, TEAM CURRENTLY MANAGES.

UH, OUR TEAM IS VERY SMALL.

UH, WE ARE THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT CURRENTLY STAFF THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT INITIATIVES.

UH, AND I I SAY IT'S THREE OF US, BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY ONE DEDICATED INDIVIDUAL.

UH, THE TWO OTHER INDIVIDUALS ARE, I KNOW ARE ON THE WEBEX AS WELL.

UH, WE HAVE JUANI TORRES, WHO'S OUR PROGRAM MANAGER THAT'S DEDICATED TO OUR SOLI AUSTIN PROGRAM.

UH, SHE OVERSEES THE SIX DISTRICTS, OR ACTUALLY EIGHT DISTRICTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SOLI AUSTIN.

UH, AND THEN DONALD JACKSON IS ALSO ON THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS TEAM.

HE IS, HE DOES IT ALL.

Y'ALL KNOW THAT.

UM, HE WORKS ON ZONING, UH, UH, ITEMS. HE WORKS ON INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, AND HE ALSO DEDICATES HIS TIME TO OUR DISTRICT'S PROGRAMS. AND THEN I OVERSEE OUR INCENTIVES AND DISTRICTS AS WELL.

UH, ON OUR SLIDE HERE, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CURRENT DISTRICT INITIATIVES.

UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT AND SOLVING FOR SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORTS AROUND RESOLUTION 20, UH, FROM A RESOLUTION FROM 2021.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE FIFTH STREET MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE CORRIDOR ON ESTABLISHING THEIR DISTRICT MANAGEMENT ENTITY IN PURSUIT OF THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN, AS WELL AS THEIR CULTURAL DISTRICT DESIGNATION ON STATE LEVEL, WORKING WITH THE, UH, RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY, AS WELL AS ESTABLISHING THEIR NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET PAST IN MAY, UH, WORKING WITH SOUTH SHORE CULTURAL DISTRICT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS THEY BEGIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN CONTINUING WORK WITH OUR SOLELY AUSTIN DISTRICTS, SOUTH FIRST AND ALDRICH STREET THIS YEAR AS WE, UH, COMPLETE FY 19 COMMITMENTS TO THOSE DISTRICTS AS THEY WERE STALLED OUT BY THE COVID PANDEMIC, UH, AND THEIR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, ALL OF OUR EXISTING ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE REPRESENTED BY EAST 12TH STREET, EAST CAESAR CHAVEZ, NORTH LAMAR, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT IN SOUTH CONGRESS.

OF COURSE, I'D LIKE TO NOTE JUST THE ONGOING CHALLENGES THAT WE WILL HAVE IF WE DON'T RECEIVE OR DON'T HAVE THIS POLICY IN PLACE.

UH, WHAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE IS UNFUNDED ITEMS FROM COUNCIL.

UH, THESE RESOLUTIONS THAT WILL JUST COME TO US THAT HAVE NO SUPPORTING, UH, UH, FUNDING OR RESOURCES, UH, TO CONTINUE, UH, THE, THE WORK THAT ARE DONE IN THESE AREAS.

UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO FACE LIMITED FINANCIAL CAPACITY TO ACCOMPLISH OUR WORK.

UH, THE LIMITED STAFFING CAPACITY, AS I NOTED, THREE INDIVIDUALS, UH, ON CITY SIDE.

UH, AND THEN I ALSO SAY LIMITED COMMUNITY CAPACITY.

A LOT OF OUR DISTRICTS ARE, UH, ARE LED BY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE TAPPED OUT.

THEY'RE EXHAUSTED, UH, OR AFRICAN AMERICAN, UH, CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT WAS DESIGNATED IN 2007, AND THEY HAVE LACKED INVESTMENT FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS, AND THEY'RE EXHAUSTED FOR COMING TO THE CITY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, ASKING FOR, UH, SUPPORT.

UH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR THAT AND MAKE PROGRESS IN THESE AREAS.

AND THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THESE, THIS POLICIES TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD, UH, AS WELL AS JUST A LACK OF THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES NEEDED TO, UH, SUSTAINABLY SUPPORT THESE AREAS.

UH, SO IT'S HOPEFUL THAT IN AUGUST, UH, WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS POLICY TO COUNCIL AND GET THIS, UH, FOUNDATIONAL POLICY PASSED.

UH, SO WE'RE, UM, REALLY EXCITED TO TAKE THIS POLICY FORWARD, UH, AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH OUR ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS, UH, AND CONTINUE TO GROW THOSE AREAS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO THAT'S, UH, THE PRESENTATION I HAVE TODAY, AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MATTHEW.

UH, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS FANTASTIC.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SO IMPORTANT AS THE, UH, AS THE, UM, CITY WALLS, UH, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT ONLY, THIS IS ALSO NOT ONLY JUST ABOUT RESERVATION, RIGHT? IT'S ALSO MAYBE AROUND SETTING SOME GUIDANCE AROUND HOW, UM, SOME OF THESE CULTURAL DISTRICTS ARE DEVELOPED IN FUTURE AS WELL.

SO IT'S ALSO HOW THESE DISTRICTS EVOLVE, UH, OVER TIME.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, UH, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER.

YEAH.

OH, GO AHEAD.

I'LL BE BRIEF.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THIS WORKS TOGETHER AND ENDEAVORING TO MAKE A COHESIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE POLICY.

AND WE DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMISSION QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT WOULD ALL COULD AND DOES WORK WHEN, UM, RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT APPROACHED US A FEW MONTHS AGO.

SO THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD.

AND, UM, WE

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WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT YOU IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT WITH WHAT YOU'RE GOING FORWARD, IF YOU'RE TAKING THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE OTHER ACTUALLY RECOMMENDATIONS REPORT RELATED TO THE WORK THAT DON JACKSON HAS PRESENTED TO US.

SO, UM, I MAY FOLLOW UP WITH YOU DIRECTLY AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION TO, TO COUNSEL FROM US WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER CASDA.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATERSON.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS, I DEFINITELY REMEMBER WITH MR. JACKSON KIND OF LIKE, WELL, WHAT IS THE DISTRICT LIKE? WHAT, SO THIS IS VERY, VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

UM, I AM, UH, I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE NORTH LAMAR INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT THAT LOOKS INTERESTING.

UM, THAT'S A KIND OF A VIBRANT COMMUNITY UP THERE.

SO I'M, UM, EXCITED TO, I'LL STUDY UP, I'LL STUDY UP ON THAT ONE.

WHAT, WHAT, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE, I HAVE, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, BUT ONE YOU MENTIONED BRIEFLY, WHAT WAS THE SOUTH FIRST DISTRICT? THE SOUTH FIRST DISTRICT, UH, THEY CAME TO US IN 2019, UH, LED BY SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESS LEADERS IN THAT AREA.

UH, THEIR BOUNDARIES RUN FROM ABOUT TWF ALL THE WAY DOWN ALMOST TO BARTON SPRINGS.

MM-HMM.

.

THEY DIDN'T BRING IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BARTON SPRINGS.

UH, JUST TO KIND OF STOP THEMSELVES FROM, UH, IF YOU KNOW, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ZONE DISTRICT.

MM-HMM.

, THAT'S ANOTHER DISTRICT.

MM-HMM.

.

THEY'RE JUST, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CLASH WITH THOSE BOUNDARIES, SO THEY KIND OF STOPPED IN THAT AREA.

UH, BUT THAT IS ONE AREA THAT THEY HAD BEEN SEEKING DISTRICT DESIGNATION.

UH, THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY, UH, WORKED WITH THE AUSTIN INDEPENDENT BUSINESS ALLIANCE AS AN IBIS DISTRICT, UH, BUT THEY SOUGHT TO FURTHER ORGANIZE THEMSELVES AS A MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION.

SO THEY SOUGHT OUT SUPPORT THROUGH THE SOLELY AUSTIN PROGRAM.

UH, AND IN 2019, WE HAD TURNED INTO A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION PROCESS.

UH, SO THEY WERE ONE OF THE APPLICANTS AND THEY HAD ACHIEVED, UH, THEY WERE ONE OF THE APPLICANTS SELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD.

UH, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM CURRENTLY IN THEIR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

UH, AND THEY ARE, THEY'RE GOING GREAT.

UH, THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UH, KNEE DEEP IN THAT PROCESS, UH, WORKING THROUGH THE BYLAW DEVELOPMENT AND ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

SO HOW OFTEN IS A APPLICATION PROCESS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IDEALLY, WE WOULD BE DOING THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

UH, WE HAD WANTED TO, BASED ON OUR FUNDING, WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS BACK IN 2015, UH, AND BASED ON THE FUNDING OF 362,000, WE HAD INITIALLY IDEATED OUT THAT WE COULD ACHIEVE TWO DISTRICTS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, BASED ON COST RISING.

UH, AND JUST ON THE TIMING OF COVID, THAT REALLY JUST RAN ALL OF OUR TIMELINES OFF.

UH, AND NOW THE COST HAVE RISEN SIGNIFICANTLY.

THE COST OF COMPLETING ONE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT IS AROUND $300,000 PER DISTRICT.

UH, AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE KIND OF PAUSED OUR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

OKAY.

'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING, UH, OUR PROGRAM IS REALLY FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DISTRICTS.

UH, BUT WE'VE NOW BEEN ASSIGNED THE CULTURAL DISTRICTS AS WELL.

UH, SO WE ARE NOW TRYING TO REALLY CATCH UP WITH THE WORK THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE ON CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

OKAY.

UH, AND SO WITH THE CAPACITY OF OUR TEAM, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR A LOT OF THE, UH, PAST WORK THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

UH, LIKE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK WITHIN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK WITHIN THE FIFTH STREET AREA.

MM-HMM.

, UH, SO FORTH WHILE TRYING TO CATCH UP WITH SOME OF THIS ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL OR ECONOMIC DISTRICT WORK.

UH, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, ONCE WE KIND OF CATCH UP WITH OURSELVES, UH, INTO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK WITH OUR CULTURAL DISTRICTS, THAT WE CAN RESTART, UH, SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DISTRICT WORK AND START AGAIN WITH BRINGING ON HOPEFULLY TWO DISTRICTS A YEAR AGAIN.

UH, BUT WITHIN THESE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ONE OF OUR TOOLS THAT WILL BE COMING OUT IS KIND OF A SELF-STARTER TOOLKIT, UH, TO ALLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS THE, UH, POWER TO INDEPENDENTLY START THESE DISTRICT AREAS THEMSELVES, IF THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND CAPACITY TO DO THAT THEMSELVES AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION, UM, IS LIKE A LITTLE BIT TWOFOLD.

UH, THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE, ARE THERE ANY DISTRICTS THAT ARE SOUTH OF BEN WHITE OR 71 IN AUSTIN? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY HAPPENING THERE.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WELL, NOT ONLY LIKE OUR COMMISSIONER AFFILIATED WITH, UM, THE FAR OUT LOUNGE, FOR INSTANCE, IN, IN THOSE AREAS, BUT JUST RECENTLY I BECAME FAMILIAR WITH THE ST.

ELMO ARTS DISTRICT, AND THAT SEEMED TO, THAT, THAT'S BEEN PERCOLATING FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE, I

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JUST DISCOVERED LIKE THEIR OFFICIAL LIKE, BRANDING OF THAT AREA.

UM, SO IT'S DEFINITELY GONE THROUGH SOME INCARNATIONS IT SEEMS. BUT ANY, ANY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OFFICIAL DISTRICTS, UH, DOWN SOUTH OF BEN WHITE YET.

I I LIVE SOUTH OF BEN WHITE, SO I, OF COURSE WOULD LOVE SOME DISTRICTS DOWN THERE AS WELL.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THOSE AREAS PRIOR WHEN WE WERE DOING THE MARKETING, UH, OF THE SOLELY AUSTIN PROGRAM BACK IN 2019.

UH, SO WE DEFINITELY WILL BE HOPING TO, UH, SPREAD OUT THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE INTEREST FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, TO HAVE DISTRICTS IN ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS OR OUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY.

THAT IS ONE OF OUR GOALS.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR, OUR GOALS WHEN WE SET FORTH WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WAS TO MAKE A MORE EQUITABLE PROGRAM TO SPREAD OUR DISTRICTS OUT.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR LIST, YES.

A LOT OF THEM ARE MUCH MORE CONCENTRATED IN OUR DOWNTOWN CORE, UH, WITH NORTH LAMAR INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT BEING OUR ONE DISTRICT THAT IS THE MOST, UH, THE FURTHEST OUT OF OUR DOWNTOWN CORE AT NORTH LAMAR BREAKER.

UH, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE EQUITABLE AND SPREAD THEM ACROSS, UH, THE CITY, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATION ACROSS, ACROSS ALL OF OUR GEOGRAPHIES.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ADA.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, WOULD LIKE TO CHECK IN WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ONLINE AS WELL.

OKAY.

YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES.

I, I, I'VE, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A FEW QUE FEW QUESTIONS HERE.

UH, THE, UH, AND THIS IS, IT'S A VERY IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION, AND I, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

IT, IT, UH, I THINK MAYBE MY FIRST QUESTION IS, AND I WAS ASKING COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL LIKE AN IFC, WHAT IS AN, WHAT IS AN IFC ITEM FROM COUNCIL? I, IT'S AN ITEM FROM COUNCIL.

YES.

OKAY.

AND SO WHEN YOU SAY UNFUNDED IFC, THAT'S LIKE WHEN WE RECEIVED A LOT OF OUR, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED ACTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND, AND ONE OF OUR EXAMPLES IS THE 2021 RESOLUTION FROM THE AFRICAN AMERICAN, UH, CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT ASKING US TO DO STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK, BUT THERE WAS NO FUNDING BEHIND IT.

OKAY.

UH, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY ACTIVITIES, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD NO FUNDING CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY TAKE ON THAT ACTION.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

SO IT LEFT STAFF KIND OF IN A TRICKY SITUATION TO, TO BE ABLE TO, WE'RE TASKED WITH SOMETHING, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH COMPLETING THE TASK BECAUSE THE TASK, THERE'S, THERE'S, SO THERE'S NO FUNDING AVAILABLE YES.

FOR, FOR, FOR THAT TASK.

UH, WHY IS THAT? I, I'D LOVE TO KNOW .

UH, SAME QUESTION I ASK EVERY TIME WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE PASSED, AND IT'S, IT'S THINGS THAT WE ARE ASKED TO SOLVE FOR, AND SO WE LOOK TOWARDS OUR BUDGETS TO TRY AND SOLVE FOR THEM AS BEST AS WE CAN.

AND THAT'S THE SACRIFICES THAT TRULY WE MAKE ON A PROGRAM BUDGETING SIDE.

RIGHT.

AND THAT IS WHY, TO ADA'S POINT, MR. ADA'S POINT, WE ARE, WE ARE SLOWING DOWN THE PACE OF OUR DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT ON OUR ECONOMIC SIDE TO SOLVE FOR PAST RESOLUTION ACTIONS WITH OUR BUDGET, SO THAT WE CAN CATCH UP ON WORK.

OKAY.

UH, RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT LIKE THE, LIKE THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT, LIKE THE, THIS LITTLE THING HERE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LIKE THIS IS, I GUESS WHAT KIND OF FUNDS A DISTRICT SORT OF THING IS THAT THOSE ARE JUST THE SUITE OF TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR DISTRICT SERVICES.

RIGHT.

AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE, THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS CONTROL OVER THOSE SPECIFIC TOOLS.

THOSE ARE ALL SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY.

SO PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS SPECIFIC OVERSIGHT OVER SOME OF THOSE.

UH, THE ONLY BUDGET THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS SPECIFICALLY TO CONTRIBUTE TO ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS WAS SPECIFICALLY THAT $362,500 THAT I HAD ON THAT ONE SLIDE ABOUT SOLELY AUSTIN.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, SO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S DEMONSTRATED ON THAT SLIDE ARE TOOLS THAT WE CAN TAP INTO WITH OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENTS THAT COULD BENEFIT A DISTRICT.

SO ONE THING, UH, THAT WE LOOK TO, SIMILAR TO THE SOUTH CONGRESS AREA IS A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

UH, AND THAT IS A SELF TAX ASSESSMENT THAT AN AREA CAN PARTNER WITH THEIR PUBLIC AND OR PROPERTY OWNERS TO ASSESS OR TO TAX THEMSELVES A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, UH, TO POTENTIALLY INVEST THAT MONEY BACK INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES TO SUPPORT THEIR AREA.

GOTCHA.

UH, THAT ALSO BALANCES A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BUSINESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS COPACETIC ENOUGH TO BENEFIT EACH EACH OTHER.

UH, SO THERE'S ALWAYS THAT KIND OF BALANCING ACT THAT WE MUST MAINTAIN.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

TWO MORE QUESTIONS.

AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE GIVING ME A CIVICS ONE-ON-ONE COURSE RIGHT NOW, SO I I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE, UH, ARE, DO EACH OF THESE THINGS LIKE, LIKE, HAVE LIKE BLOCKS OF FUNDING FOR THEM, LIKE THE OMNI BUSSMAN SHIP OR DISTRICT MANAGEMENT? NO, THEY DON'T, NOT ALL OF THEM.

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OKAY.

UH, BUT SOME DO, SOME DON'T.

I WOULDN'T SAY THAT AT ALL.

OKAY.

LIKE, SOME OF THEM ARE JUST A POLICY, LIKE THE, THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS IS JUST A POLICY, SO IT'S JUST AN ACTION THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN TAKE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THAT.

UH, THE DISTRICT IDENTITY AGREEMENT IS JUST AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE LOOK FOR FUNDING THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AGREEMENT.

UH, THE ONLY FUNDING, LIKE THE FUNDING THAT'S DEDICATED TO SOME OF THOSE TOOLS, REALLY, AGAIN, IT'S OUR 362,000 IS DEDICATED TOWARDS THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT OTHER, I THINK THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

AND THEN I WOULD, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UH, THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE.

THERE IS A COUPLE OF FUNDING BUCKETS THAT ARE, THAT BACK IN 2018, COUNCIL HAD DEDICATED SOME FUNDING TO SOME OF THE CULTURAL DISTRICTS.

THERE ARE SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE THROUGH HOT FUNDS, UH, DEDICATED TO THOSE, BUT THOSE WERE ONE TIME FUNDING ALLOCATIONS.

UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME HERITAGE WAY FINDING MANUAL TO BE COMPLETED THROUGH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO COMPLETE THOSE PROJECTS.

UH, BUT NO, THE, LIKE SPECIFIC PROJECTS DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC FUNDING BUCKETS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM ALL.

GOT IT.

ALL THE, OKAY.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON SOME, IS THAT WHAT, UH, NOT TODAY.

UH, THEY SEND THE DISCUSSION ITEMS, BUT, UH, WE COULD CONSIDER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION IN FUTURE, UM, BEFORE THIS IS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN AUGUST.

WE'RE TAKING THIS TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 29TH.

OKAY.

SO WE COULD DO THIS IN THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

JUST TO, AND WHAT'S, AND FORGIVE ME, LIKE WHAT'S, I KNOW THIS, WE HAVE THE ONGOING CHALLENGES HERE AND, AND LACK OF FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHAT, WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA BE ASKING FOR? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DISCUSS OVERALL? WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS FOUNDATIONAL POLICY TO BE PASSED, UH, BY COUNCIL IN AUGUST.

OKAY.

UH, SO TODAY, I MEAN, OVERALL WE'RE JUST WANTED TO INFORM Y'ALL AND PROVIDE ANY, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK ON THIS POLICY.

IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I'D LOVE THAT.

UM, AND THEN, UH, BEYOND THAT, OF COURSE, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WAYS TO IMPROVE THIS POLICY, UH, AND WAYS TO BEEF UP THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES THAT WE CAN HELP SUSTAINABLY SUPPORT OUR DISTRICTS MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

YEP.

SO I THINK, UH, WE CAN BRING THIS BACK, UH, UH, NEXT ROUND.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, COMMISSIONERS, FEEL FREE TO COME WITH ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS YOU MIGHT HAVE, ANY SUGGESTIONS.

AND, UH, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT, UH, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS TOPIC.

UH, THANK YOU AGAIN.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

MOVING ON TO

[7. Informational update on SXSW economic impact by Chair.]

THE NEXT TOPIC, INFORMATIONAL UPDATE, UH, ON SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, ECONOMIC IMPACT BY CHAIR.

THIS IS INFORMATION NULL ONLY.

UH, SO, UM, BASICALLY THERE IS A WEBSITE.

THE WEBSITE IS SOUTH BY SXSW.COM/IF ANYBODY WANTS TO WRITE IT DOWN, FACTS DASH FIGURES, QUOTES, FACTS, FIGURES, DASH QUOTES, Q-U-O-T-E-S.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE MAIN DOMAIN IS SXS W.COM.

SO, UM, UM, I SAW THAT THIS SIDE BASICALLY HAS REPORTS, UH, ON, UM, UH, EVENT DEMOGRAPHICS.

UH, IT HAS, YOU KNOW, UM, STATS ON LIKE ATTENDANCE, ET CETERA, AND ALSO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, UH, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING.

UH, AND, UH, BUT I, I SAW THAT THE, UH, EVENT, UH, THE ATTENDANCE, ET CETERA, UH, THE DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, THEY ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE, UH, FOR 2024, BUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS ONLY RIGHT AT THIS POINT AVAILABLE FOR 2023.

SO I DID INQUIRE ABOUT WHEN THE, UH, DATA FOR 2024 WOULD BE AVAILABLE, AND I WAS TOLD THAT THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED AND AVAILABLE ONLINE AROUND AUGUST, UM, SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME.

SO IF YOU GO TO THIS SITE, AND IF YOU WANNA DOWNLOAD ANY OF THE REPORTS, ESSENTIALLY YOU JUST PUT IN YOUR EMAIL, YOU HIT DOWNLOAD, AND THE REPORT COMES UP.

AND, UH, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UH, FROM LAST YEAR, I MEAN, UH, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT PILLARS I SAW THAT THEY COLLECT DATA ON.

ONE IS BASED ON ATTENDANCE AND, UH, SORRY, NOT ATTENDANCE, SORRY, AUDIENCE AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOLLARS THEY BROUGHT INTO THE ECONOMY, UH, BROADLY.

THEN THE SECOND IS, UM, UM, OPERATIONAL IMPACT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, WHAT IT SPENDS, UM, IN, IN, IN OPERATIONAL DOLLARS, AND WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS.

SO THERE IS A SECTION, A PILLAR FOR THAT.

AND THE THIRD ONE, IF I REMEMBER IT RIGHT, IS, UH, PARTNER IMPACT, UH, IS AS THEY WORK WITH PARTNERS, WHAT IS THE

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ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT THEY BROUGHT INTO THE, INTO AUSTIN.

SO THAT SUM TOTAL OF THAT WAS AROUND, UM, 3 80, 3 89, 3 80 MILLION, I BELIEVE.

UH, BUT PLEASE LOOK IT UP.

IT'S, IT'S SOMEWHERE UPWARDS FROM THERE, UH, IN 2023.

AND THEN, UM, YEAH, SO THIS YEAR'S REPORT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER.

SO THAT'S A QUICK UPDATE ON THAT.

UM, UH, LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE DATA.

IT'S CUT.

IT'S INTERESTING, UH, TO, TO SEE THE DATA.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE? COMMISSIONER CASADA, I, I COULDN'T HELP BUT JUST NOTICE THAT, UM, SOUTH BY JUST LAID OFF 23 EMPLOYEES, UM, SAW THAT.

SO THAT WAS, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.

AND IT SOUNDS THAT LIKE THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING IN THE UK AS WELL, SO NOT ONLY AUSTRALIA, BUT ALSO UK.

SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING INTERNATIONAL, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY, AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, TEXAS OR AUSTIN.

THREE LOCATIONS.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

SO, I MEAN, JUST NOTEWORTHY, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY LIKE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US, BUT IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR US? AND THEN ALSO, UM, JUST, UH, UH, NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND, AND, AND MARCH AND, AND THIS AND THAT, BUT JUST, UM, THEY DEFINITELY ARE A, WELL-RESPECTED MAJOR POWER PLAYER IN AUSTIN IN THE MUSIC SCENE.

AND IT'S, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE EMPLOYEES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC, YOU KNOW, THEY, IT COULD BE TECHNOLOGY OR FILM OR WHO KNOWS.

BUT WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT, JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTIONED THAT.

YEAH, IT WAS, UM, UM, I, I SAW THAT IN THE CHRONICLE.

YEAH.

TODAY.

TODAY, OR, UM, BUT I DID SEE IT IN THE CHRONICLE.

YEAH.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, THEY, THEY, UH, UH, MY, I HAVE A FEW CO COUPLE OF SOURCES.

THEY TELL ME THAT THE, THE UK EXPANSION ISN'T LIKE ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO AS BIG AS AUSTIN IS, IS GOING TO BE OR ANY OF THAT STUFF.

BUT THEY ARE LOOKING, THEY'RE PLANTING SEED.

UM, THERE, IT'S AT THE START OF SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE EXTREMELY BIG FOR ANYTHING THERE.

UM, BUT ALSO IT IS, IT IS, IT IS NOTABLE THAT, UM, THAT THEY ARE KIND OF MOVING IN THOSE DIFFERENT SPACES THAT I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT.

UM, THE LAYING OFF 29 EMPLOYEES, 2023.

23 EMPLOYEES.

23, YEAH.

UM, AND ALSO THERE, I, I DO WANT TO COMMEND THEM FOR, UM, NOT, UM, TAKING DONOR DONATIONS FROM THE US ARMY OR WEAPONS MANUFACTURERS.

UM, AND, UM, THOSE, THOSE SPONSORS HAVE TO DO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S A PAINFUL DECISION FOR THEM TO HAVE TO MAKE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT SUPPORTS, UM, YOU KNOW, HUMAN RIGHTS AND, AND WHATNOT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY GOOD CALL FOR THEM.

SO I WANT A COMMITMENT FOR THAT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UH, THAT'S TRUE, ACTUALLY, IT WAS IN THE SAME ARTICLE, I BELIEVE, RIGHT WHERE THAT WAS NOTED.

UH, AT LEAST, UH, THAT'S WHERE I SAW IT.

UM, YEAH, THREE LOCATIONS NOW, RIGHT.

UM, AUSTIN, SYDNEY, AND UK.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE STATS, IT ALSO TELLS US, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY FOLKS CAME FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND ALSO INTERNATIONALLY.

SO, UH, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT EVOLVES, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AND ALSO, UH, WHAT'S IMPACT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, BUILT OUT IS GONNA BE, UH, IN THE UPCOMING YEARS.

SO SEE, UM, BUT YEAH, PLEASE LOOK AT THE DATA.

IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE.

UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS IKA ? I'VE NOT REQUESTED THAT.

YEAH, I THINK, UH, WE WANTED, UH, INFORMATION ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

SO, UM, I THINK LAST TIME WHAT I HAD OFFERED TO DO WAS BASICALLY LOOK IT UP.

I THINK SOMEBODY HAD STAFF OR SOMEBODY IN THE COMMISSION HAD MENTIONED THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE ONLINE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THIS TOPIC IS COMING FROM OR THIS AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON.

THANK YOU.

UM, MOVING ON.

[8. Update on live musical performances for Music Commission meetings by Vice Chair Patterson.]

UPDATE ON LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES FOR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING BY VICE CHAIR PATTERSON.

YEAH, JUST, JUST A QUICK UPDATE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD, AS A BODY, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES IN THE MEETING, AND THAT IS NOT FEASIBLE FOR OUR AV TEAMS. AND SO THEN THE SOLUTION WAS TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WHERE THE FOCUS IS MUSIC.

AND SO WE HAD A, WITH SHELBY'S HELP, AND SCOTT AND SCOTT AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE

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FROM THE CITY.

SO WE HAD THE ROOFTOP LINED UP AND, UM, DATE SEPTEMBER 13TH, AND WE WERE GONNA MOVE INTO BANDS AND LOOKING AT CATERING, AND WE HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, AND THEY SAID IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THEN SADLY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE HAS COME BACK AND SAID, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH MUSIC AND NOT ENOUGH MEETING.

SO WE'RE SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S THE UPDATE, JUST KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF A RECORD SCRATCH, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE IT.

YEAH.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK SO FAR.

YEAH.

AND THANK YOU TO, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A BUDGET FROM EDD ON THIS, SO WE APPRECIATE BOTH THE FUNDING AND THE SUPPORT.

SO WE'LL GET IT SORTED AND HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE BETTER NEWS, UH, NEXT MONTH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK ON THIS.

UM, FROM UN STAFF.

UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.

UM, WASN'T THE CARVER DOING SOME DJ SETS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE.

YEAH.

SO THE TRICKY THING IS IF WE WANT, IT'S QUORUM.

SO IF WE ALL WANT WANT TO GO, OR MOST OF US WANT TO GO, WHICH IS KIND OF THE POINT OF US BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE A MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

YES.

SO SHELBY D HAS AN INSIGHT.

SHELBY, ULTIMATELY, AND SHOUT OUT TO YOU VINYL BRUNCH, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

I SPEARHEAD THAT AT THE CARVER LIBRARY.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO, I AM ASKING NOW AT THIS POINT, IF IT'S JUST POSSIBLE TO DO SOMETHING ON YOUR OWN.

UM, THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS, LIKE AUNT CHARLOTTE SAID, GOTTEN BACK WITH US AFTER HAVING A GREAT MEETING, I GUESS ASKING LEGAL AND SOME OTHER FOLKS THERE, THERE'S SOME CONCERN.

SO I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET THE BLACK AND THE WHITES SO I CAN GIVE THAT TO Y'ALL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

BUT I'M ALSO ASKING LIKE, HEY, QUORUM, LIKE, CAN WE FIGURE THAT OUT OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULAR LIVES? LIKE WHAT ARE THE CHANCES IF Y'ALL JUST ALL CAME TOGETHER, WOULD YOU GET IN TROUBLE? SO I'M TRYING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS JUST TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.

UM, AND THEN WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK INTO JUST DRAFTING SOMETHING LIKE A ONE PAGER, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR THE COMMISSION.

AND I'VE TOLD THEM, TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO.

YEAH.

UM, SO I'M WORKING ON THAT.

I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM THEM YET.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT A WEEK.

SO I FOLLOWED UP TODAY.

HOPEFULLY WE HEAR BACK THIS WEEK.

YEAH.

WE SHOULD DISCUSS AN AGENDA ITEM AFTER EVERY PERFORMANCE.

YEAH.

MAYBE WE SHOULD MOVE IT AND MAKE IT MEETING.

WE CAN MOVE IT UP.

YEAH.

LIKE A REALLY SHORT AND SWEET AGENDA ITEM.

, BUT KEEP IT, I MEAN, BUT SERIOUSLY, I MEAN, YEAH.

LET'S SEE WHAT IS, WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US, EVEN IF THAT IS EVEN A POSSIBILITY.

YEAH.

MAYBE WE CAN GO AND SHIFTS, HAVE A EARLY SHIFT AND LATE SHIFT FOR COMMISSIONERS, AND THEN WE WON'T, THIS, THIS, THE WHOLE THING FUNCTIONS OFF OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

RIGHT.

AND THE, AND TOMA, THE TEXT OPEN MEETING ACT.

I MEAN, LIKE, I MEAN, YEAH.

AS LONG AS WE PLAY IN THAT BOX, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT.

.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I JUST GOTTA SAY, I MEAN, IF AN, IF, IF, IF MUSIC IS ON THE AGENDA, PEOPLE ARE SIGNED UP TO GIVE A PRESENTATION FOR AN AGENDA ITEM, AND THEIR PRESENTATION HAPPENS TO BE THEM PLAYING A SET OF MUSIC, , I DON'T SEE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT.

I MEAN, WE, I SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER GOLDA SAY, WE ALREADY HAVE ONE OF THOSE.

WE JUST LIKE INTO 10.

LAST MEETING.

WE HAD SOME MUSIC AT THE END.

.

YEAH.

WE LIKE PUT THE SET LIST AS PART OF THE AGENDA.

WE PUT MEETING TIME OVER, MEETING TIMES, MANY TIMES.

WE ALL DESERVE TO HAVE SOME MUSIC.

YES.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

SO IT'LL BE A PRESENTATION THAT IS SUNG AND ACCOMPANIED BY MUSIC.

JUST DISCUSSION JUST HAPPENED LIKE THAT DISCUSSION ELECTION.

BUT NO, WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW THE RULES.

WE, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANNA GET IN A POSITION WHERE WE, WE FOUND A SKETCHY WORKAROUND AND THEN WE GET IN TROUBLE FOR SPENDING $6,000 AT THE CITY'S MONEY ON IT .

SO DON'T WAY MORE THAN, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY AT THE CITY THAT'S LIKE, WE HATE MUSIC.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE MUSIC.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GOTTA, WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW TO FOLLOW THE, THE RULES AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO THAT'S THAT UPDATE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, THANKS AGAIN FOR THE WORK AND HOPEFULLY WE COME TO A GOOD, UH, GOOD, GOOD SOLUTION FOR THIS.

UM, MOVING ON,

[9. Update from Land Use Working group by Vice Chair Patterson.]

UM, ON, UH, SUGGESTION FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO, WELL I'LL GO AHEAD.

GET, GET MY UPDATE IS ALRIGHT, NO MOTION.

BUT I HAVE AN UPDATE, UH, FROM THE WORKING GROUP, I THINK LAND USE WORKING GROUP.

YEAH.

UH, BUT I AM GONNA GIVE THE PRE PRESENTATION NEXT.

THANK YOU AV FOR HAVING IT READY.

I'M, I'M GONNA PUN IT TO NEXT MEETING.

[02:50:01]

UM, BUT SEE IT'S YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S GONNA BE GORGEOUS.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT.

THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC, UH, COMMISSIONS, URBAN LAND CORE, UH, URBAN CORE.

SEE, I'M SO TIRED, I CAN'T EVEN SAY THE NAME OF THIS WORKING GROUP THAT I CHAIR.

BUT ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.

I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY, THE GROUP WAS FORMED WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IN MIND AND WE'VE TA TAKEN ON OTHER ISSUES AS WELL.

UM, BUT YEAH, SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE IT NEXT, UM, MEETING WHEN WE'RE ALL A LITTLE FRESHER.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

WE ARE MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION

[10. Approve recommendation to create a Placed-Based Enhancement Program to incentivize inclusion of live music venues and other creative sector businesses in new mixed-use development, support development of stand-alone high-impact community development projects including arts and music complexes, and preserve existing music venues, creative spaces, legacy businesses, and nonprofits.]

AND, UH, POSSIBLE ITEMS. UM, COMMISSIONER, I JUST WANNA JUST GIVE A QUICK UPDATE, UH, JUST TO, JUST SET, SET LIKE THE BASELINE FOR THE NEXT TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.

NUMBER 10 IS A NEW RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT, UH, IS COMING FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

NUMBER 11 IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, RRCD FOR A SUBDISTRICT IN CULTURAL DISTRICT OVERLAY THAT WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED IN MAY.

THIS IS PROCEDURAL AT THIS POINT, UH, THAT IT IS BACK ON THE AGENDA.

UM, IT'S NINE 30, SO I WOULDN'T SPEND TIME ON THE PROCEDURE.

THERE ARE SOME USE CASES THAT I MYSELF AM, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH STAFF TO UNDERSTAND BETTER.

SO LET ME GET A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOW WE NEED TO PROPERLY MAKE THOSE MOVING FORWARD.

AND, UH, I'LL SPEND SOME MORE TIME ON SHARING THAT WITH THE COMMISSION HERE NEXT TIME.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT THESE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.

10 IS A NEW ONE.

11 IS A REPEAT OF A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAD ALREADY APPROVED IN MAY.

OKAY.

UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD YIELD TO COMMISSIONER PATTERSON TO, ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 10, APPROVE RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE A PLACE-BASED ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.

UM, PLEASE TAKE OVER COMMISSIONER PATTERSON .

SO THIS, UM, SO THIS IS BASED ON THE PRESENTATION THAT DONALD JACKSON PROVIDED TO US, UH, IN THE LAST MEETING.

UM, AND WHAT IT TACKLES IS HOW, UM, TAX INCENTIVES CAN BE PROVIDED TO CREATIVE BUSINESSES.

AND SO, UM, WE'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE ALL THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS AMAZING.

UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT, UM, IS BEING DONE IN, IN THIS OFFICE.

SO I AM GOING TO, WE THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT PROCEDURE NOW GOING FORWARD, I'M GONNA READ THIS RECOMMENDATION AND THEN I'LL GONNA MOVE THAT WE VOTE ON IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SHELBY.

SO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT THE PLACE-BASED ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM DEVELOPED BY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT STAFF.

UH, THE PLACE-BASED ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM LEVERAGES TAX REIMBURSEMENTS TO INCENTIVIZE THE DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION OF MUSIC VENUES, CREATIVE SPACES, AND OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES, WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE CULTURE AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN AUSTIN.

DOES THIS IN THREE WAYS, AFFORDABLE SPACE, UH, TAX REIMBURSEMENTS WILL BE OFFERED TO DEVELOPERS OF MIXED USE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDING PROJECTS TO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE COMMERCIAL LEASE FOR ARTS AND MUSIC VENUES AND ESTABLISHMENTS, SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

COMMUNITY IMPACT TAX REIMBURSEMENTS WILL SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF STANDALONE HIGH IMPACT COMMUNITY PROJECTS, INCLUDING ARTS AND MUSIC COMPLEXES, GROCERY STORES, AND FOOD DESERT DESERTS, CHILDCARE FACILITIES, AND INDUSTRY HUBS AND INCUBATORS.

SO THAT WOULD COULD INCLUDE CREATIVE INCUBATORS, UH, CULTURAL PRESERVATION, TAX REIMBURSEMENTS, AND POTENTIALLY OTHER PROGRAMS WILL SUPPORT RETENTION AND IMPROVEMENT OF EXISTING VENUES, CREATIVE SPACES AND LEGACY BUSINESSES.

NONPROFITS AND CO-OPS.

RATIONALE STATE CODE CHAPTER THREE 80 STATES THAT A MUNICIPALITY MAY ESTABLISH PROGRAMS FOR PROVISION SERVICES AND GRANTS, PROVISION OF SERVICES AND GRANTS OF PUBLIC MONEY TO PROMOTE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND STIMULATE BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

AN URGENT NEED FOR AFFORDABLE SMALL BUSINESS AND CREATIVE SPACE CONTINUES IN AUSTIN AS SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY MUSIC AND CREATIVE ENTERPRISES COMPETE WITH LUXURY REAL ESTATE AND HIGH-END RETAIL RESTAURANT ENTERPRISES FOR LIMITED COMMERCIAL SPACE.

MUSIC AND CULTURAL ARTS IN AUSTIN ARE A CORE FACTOR IN THE CITY'S QUALITY OF LIFE AND A SIGNIFICANT DRAW FOR TOURISM AND LARGE SCALE EMPLOYERS.

THEREFORE, IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE CITY WORK TO PRESERVE AUSTIN'S CULTURAL LIFEBLOOD THROUGH INVESTMENT IN LOCAL MUSIC AND ARTS ECONOMIES.

SO, UH, I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT IS THE MOST INCREDIBLE RECOMMENDATION.

WELL, SOME OF IT, A LOT OF IT I'M TAKEN STRAIGHT FROM THINGS THAT DON WROTE, SO THAT'S JUST GREAT THOUGH.

THAT'S, I PLAGIARIZED, THAT'S A GREAT WAY OF DOING IT.

THAT, BUT HE'S HERE ON THE CALL, SO HE, I'M JUST, THAT'S FLATTERY.

YEAH.

SO IT WAS GREAT.

AND, UH, BUT THE RA THE RATIONALE IS MINE AND I THINK WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT ALL THAT.

SO, UH, DO YOU WANNA CALL FOR A SECOND? SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER GOUL? DID I HEAR YOU? SORRY,

[02:55:01]

I WASN'T LOOKING UP.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GOLD.

I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP, UH, OPEN THIS UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE AS A QUICK CHECK-IN.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PATERSON.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THAT WAS GREAT.

THANKS.

AND, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF DETAIL THERE, AND, UH, THIS IS A KIND OF A RELATED RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAD FROM, UM, THE MAY MEETING.

UM, WE, THIS IS THE

[11. Approve recommendation to create a Creative Combining District and Development Bonus Program to enhance the development and preservation of live music venues and creative sector businesses, and to initiate a specific Red River Cultural District subdistrict and cultural district overlay.]

NEXT AGENDA ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 11, UNDER DISCUSSION IMPOSSIBLE ITEMS. UM, THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, WHAT I DIDN'T QUITE REALIZE THAT I WAS SO INVOLVED.

, THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDS CREATING A CREATIVE COMBINING DISTRICT AND DEVELOPMENT BONUS PROGRAM TO ENHANCE THE DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION OF LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND CREATIVE SECTOR BUSINESSES.

AND TO INITIATE A SPECIFIC RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, SUB-DISTRICT AND CULTURAL DISTRICT OVERLAY.

UM, THE RATIONALE IS MUSIC IS, UM, IN AUSTIN IS FUNDAMENTAL, UM, TO THE CITY'S IDENTITY, ENHANCING ITS QUALITY OF LIFE AND SERVING AS A SIGNIFICANT DRAW FOR TOURISM AND EMPLOYERS.

THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT SERVES AS A CENTER FOR LIVE MUSIC, AND THE CITY MUST ENSURE THAT MUSIC CONTINUES TO BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF RRCD AS THE DISTRICT EVOLVES IN FUTURE WITH THOUSANDS OF OD HOTEL ROOMS IN THE VICINITY.

PROXIMITY TO THESE LIVE MUSIC VENUES ENHANCES THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE AREA FOR VISITORS SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND BOOSTING THE ECONOMY.

RRCD IS HOME TO SEVERAL LIVE MUSIC VENUES, WHICH NURTURE LOCAL TALENT, CULTURAL AND MUSIC VENUES, PROVIDE SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER, SHARE EXPERIENCES, AND FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

BY INVESTING IN RRCD, THE CITY CAN ENSURE THE CONTINUITY OF ITS VIBRANT MUSIC SCENE, ATTRACT TALENT, BOOST TOURISM, AND ENHANCE THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ITS RESIDENTS.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE, UH, PRE-APPROVE OR APPROVE, UH, THIS, THIS RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

UH, I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT.

THE MOTION IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

OKAY.

FOR FUTURE

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

AGENDA ITEMS, UM, WE'LL HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, PRESENTATION ON MUSICAL PERFORMANCE, UH, UH, BY SHELBY MITCHELL AGAIN NEXT, NEXT MONTH.

ARE WE GOOD TO GO? OKAY.

WE'LL HAVE THAT, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS UPDATE BY KIM MC CARSON UPDATE ON THE F 5 24 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND BY SHAMALI.

UH, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, WE WILL HAVE, UH, A DISCUSSION ON SUPPORT FOR, UM, UH, HOUSING CURRENT COLLECTION OF TEXAS MUSIC MUSEUM.

IT'LL BE BACK.

UM, I HAVE A REQUEST HERE THAT, UH, SINCE WE HAVE HEARD, UM, IN DETAIL IN TWO OF THE COMMISSIONS FROM, UH, COMMISSION MEETINGS, UH, FROM, UH, TEXAS MUSEUM, UH, MUSIC MUSEUM, UH, THAT THIS BE PRESENTED AS A WORKING GROUP UPDATE IN THE NEXT MEETING.

AND OF COURSE, UH, WE CAN HAVE SPEAKERS, UH, COME IN AND, AND SPEAK ON THE TOPIC AS WELL.

UM, THEN, UH, THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE UPDATE ON LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES FOR, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING BY VICE CHAIR PATTISON.

UM, WE'LL ALSO BRING BACK UPDATE FROM, UH, LAND USE WORKING GROUP VICE CHAIR PATTERSON UNDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ITEMS. UH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL DISTRICT FRAMEWORK POLICY THAT MATTHEW PRESENTED TODAY.

GET THE VERBIAGE, UH, TO YOU, UM, TO STAFF BEFORE AND, UH, ANY OTHER, ANYTHING ELSE UNDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ITEMS FOR THE NEXT ROUND.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SLATE OF FUTURE ADD AGENDA ITEMS. A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

THANK YOU.

UM, THAT MOTION'S APPROVED AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO ADJOURN.

ANY TAKERS? SECOND.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

AND I DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ONCE WE WE'RE DONE.

DANIEL, IF COMMISSIONER BLEVINS AND GO COULD STAY ON UNTIL WE SHUT DOWN.

WE GOTTA MAKE

[03:00:01]

SURE THAT WE'RE ROLLING THE CREDITS, BUT YEAH, STAY PUT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

STAFF PLEASE.