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OH, YES, SIR.

YEAH.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS STEVEN, AKA CALLING TO ORDER THE JULY MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION.

UH, TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, JULY 10TH, 2024.

WE ARE STARTING AT 6:44 PM UM, JUST A REMINDER, UH, SOME BOARD MEMBERS MAY BE PARTICIPATING VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE AND WEBEX.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO JOIN WATCH LIVE ON, UM, AUSTIN TEXAS.GOV ON THE ATX N WEBSITE.

WE WILL START THE MEETING WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE.

I, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST CALL ON FOLKS, UM, AFTER I, AS, JUST TO KEEP THINGS ORDERLY.

UH, MY NAME IS STEVEN APODACA, UM, REPRESENTING DISTRICT TWO.

I'LL MOVE TO VICE CHAIR ATA.

NEXT VICE CHAIR, CARINA ATA, REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE.

PERFECT.

COMMISSIONER PINA VILLA, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME.

COMMISSIONER PINA VILLA, REPRESENTING THE MAYOR OF AUSTIN.

COMMISSIONER ANGA.

COMMISSIONER ANGA, REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE COMMISSIONER RICE COMMISSIONER GRIFFIN RICE, REPRESENTING DISTRICT FIVE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. COMMISSIONER BROWN WILLIAMS REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE.

THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER SUPTA, UH, SUPTA REPRESENTING DISTRICT 10.

THANK YOU.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE HAD ANYONE SIGN UP TODAY.

UH, SO WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR, UM, OUR AGENDA.

UM, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS TODAY.

UM, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, I WANT TO TABLE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND MOVE STRAIGHT INTO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. WANNA LOOK TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYONE, UM, WITH ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? DOESN'T SEEM LIKE

[2. “You’re Being Watched – AI & Surveillance in Public Places” Presentation (Sharon Strover – Director, Technology & Information Policy Institute, Phillip G. Warner Regents Professor of Communication, Moody College of Communications, University of Texas at Austin)]

IT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE IT RIGHT INTO DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, WANTED TO TURN IT OVER TO DR.

SHARON TROOVER FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

DR.

TROOVER, PLEASE.

HI.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HOSTING THIS TALK.

I, UH, I HAVE SHARED SOME OF THE RESEARCH I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT WITH VARIOUS OF YOU IN DIFFERENT MEETINGS ALREADY, BECAUSE THERE WERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S STILL ARE SOME SUBCOMMITTEES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS GROUP.

SO, UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE, HAVE CONSIDERED IT BEFORE AND, AND PERHAPS HAVE SOME NEW QUESTIONS, UH, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, TO AIR THEM AND SHARE THEM AT, AT ANY POINT DURING THIS.

UH, DAN HAS SOME SLIDES, AND DAN, ARE YOU GOING TO SHARE THEM FROM THERE? YEAH, WE, WE CAN PULL 'EM UP ON OUR END.

DR.

STR, GIVE US JUST A MOMENT.

SURE.

WELL, WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, I, I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

AS STEVE SAID, I'M A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN.

I AM ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, AND I'M A PROJECT LEAD FOR A RESEARCH PROJECT ASSOCIATED WITH GOOD SYSTEMS, WHICH IS AN INTERDISCIPLINARY RESEARCH PROJECT AT UT AUSTIN.

THERE ARE MANY FACULTY MEMBERS INVOLVED WITH ABOUT SIX MAJOR RESEARCH PROJECTS, AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER TALKS AND ACTIVITIES THAT INVOLVES STUDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESSES AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY SUMMARIZES SOME EARLY RESULTS FROM SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND WE HAVE A VARIETY OF, OF WAYS IN WHICH WE HAVE TRIED TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE THAT THE CITY TYPICALLY DEPLOYS.

IT'S PROBABLY NO SURPRISE TO EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT THE CITY USES A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY.

UH, AND MANY OF THE TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS ARE THINGS THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF, UH, AND THAT YOU MAY BE UNAWARE OF.

AND, AND INDEED IT HAS SURPRISED ME AS MORE AND MORE CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY REALLY RUN THE WORLD, JUMP ON THE SORT OF SMART CITY BANDWAGON, HOW MANY TECHNOLOGIES, AND THAT INCLUDES HARDWARE AND

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SOFTWARE, HAVE COME TO BE USED AND COME TO BE VERY, A VERY NATURAL PART OF THE REPERTOIRE OF SO-CALLED SMART CITIES.

AUSTIN, OF COURSE, IS VERY PROUD TO WEAR THAT MONIKER, AND IT HAS JOINED THE SMART CITY ASSOCIATIONS AND DOES INDEED CALL ITSELF A SMART CITY.

OUR RESEARCH PROJECT IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE LEGAL AND SOCIAL APPROACHES THAT CAN ENCOURAGE THE BEST, MOST ETHICAL USE OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A TECHNICAL COMPONENT TO OUR PROJECT LED BY DR.

ATLAS WANG, WHO IS A COMPUTER VISIONING ENGINEER, AND HE HAS BEEN EXPLORING WAYS TO WORK WITH CAMERAS IN ORDER TO FACILITATE WHAT WE'RE CALLING DIFFERENTIAL ACCESS.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU DO WANNA TALK ABOUT IT, YOU CAN ASK ABOUT IT AFTER AFTERWARDS.

THE DATE ON THIS HEADLINE SLIDE, I THINK, WAS WHEN I WAS SUPPOSED TO ORIGINALLY TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND IT'S BEEN RESCHEDULED, AND AS I SAID BEFORE, SHARED WITH SOME SUBGROUPS IN, IN DIFFERENT PHASES.

BUT IN, IN ANY CASE, I WAS REALLY GOING TO FOCUS ON THE SOCIAL SCIENCE RESEARCH ASSOCIATED WITH THIS MULTIDISCIPLINARY PROJECT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN, I CAN JUST BASICALLY LET YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND I, I JUST THOUGHT I'D GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW, TALK ABOUT OUR RESEARCH APPROACHES, WHICH ARE SEVERAL, AND, AND SUMMARIZE THE MAJOR ISSUES AND QUESTIONS THAT OUR RESEARCH AND PRELIMINARY FINDINGS RAISE AND, AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS WORK IN THE FUTURE.

SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE OUR, BASICALLY THE FOUR QUADRANTS THAT SUMMARIZE THE THRUST OF THIS RESEARCH.

EACH ONE HAS GENERATED PAPERS AND HAVE, HAS GENERATED TALKS THAT HAVE BEEN AIRED IN A, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT VENUES.

WHAT I WAS GOING TO REALLY TALK ABOUT IS IN THE UPPER LEFT QUADRANT, THE CONCEPTIONS OF PRIVACY, ESPECIALLY AMONG CITIZENS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER COLLEAGUE, DR.

ANITA VARMA, WHO HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON JOURNALISTS AS WELL AND CITY OFFICIALS.

AND THEN YOU SEE BELOW THAT DR.

WANG'S FOCUS AND HIS TEAM MEMBERS ON THE DIFFERENTIAL ACCESS TECHNICAL MODELS.

WE HAVE A GROUP OF DATA SCIENTISTS AND ONE ATTORNEY LOOKING AT OPEN RECORDS LAWS, AND ALL OF US ARE WORKING ON SMART CITI CITIZEN, UH, SMART CITY LITERACY EFFORTS.

SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE A QUICK SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE.

I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THE SURVEY TODAY, BUT WE HAVE, AND I WASN'T GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR DELPHI SURVEY EITHER.

WE'VE DONE A, A DELPHI SURVEY AS A SURVEY OF EXPERTS THAT WE DID VERY EARLY ON TO GET THE EXPERTS TO WEIGH IN ON THE CRITICAL ISSUES AROUND CITY-BASED MONITORING TECHNOLOGY.

WE'VE DONE A LOT OF INTERVIEWS PRIMARILY WITH MEMBERS OF CITY, CITY UNITS.

WE'VE DONE A CASE STUDY OF THE AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND WE INITIATED THAT AFTER WE LEARNED THAT THEY USE A LOT OF CAMERA TECHNOLOGIES IN OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM.

AND I'M MAINLY GONNA FOCUS ON THE FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE HAVE.

ALSO, THAT HAS ALSO BEEN A CRITICAL DATA GATHERING EFFORT ON OUR PART.

WE, LAST FALL, WE INITIATED SOME WORKSHOPS HERE IN AUSTIN.

WE'VE ALSO DONE TWO INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOPS AROUND THIS RESEARCH.

ONE OF OUR TWO WORKSHOPS WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR CITY OF AUSTIN EMPLOYEES.

WE HELD THAT UP AT WHERE I THINK YOU ARE, STEVE, UP AT THE, UH, UP AT THAT CITY FACILITY IN THE OLD, UH, HANCOCK SHOPPING CENTER FACILITIES.

AND WE DID ANOTHER WORKSHOP AT UT THAT WAS OPEN TO VARIOUS PEOPLE, SEVERAL CITY PEOPLE, UH, ALSO ATTENDED THAT, THAT PARTICULAR WORKSHOP.

SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT TO MOVE ON TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, IF YOU MOVE THROUGH THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DID WITH OUR FOCUS GROUPS, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST MAJOR DATA GATHERING EFFORTS HERE IN AUSTIN.

WE WANTED TO FEEL, WE WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF HOW

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CITY MEMBERS OF THE CITY RESIDENTS, RES RESIDENTS THINK ABOUT SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES, ESPECIALLY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES THAT THE CITY USES.

SO WE CONVENED SEVEN FOCUS GROUPS WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

WE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED OLDER, TARGETED OLDER PEOPLE IN ONE GROUP, YOUNGER PEOPLE, NAMELY STUDENTS.

AND ANOTHER GROUP WE TARGETED TECH WORKERS IN A THIRD GROUP TECH EXECUTIVES IN A FOURTH GROUP, WE NE WE CONVENED A GROUP OF ADVOCATES FROM, MAINLY FROM AND THROUGH THE ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION.

WE TARGETED LIBRARY USERS.

AND THOSE WERE, UM, AND THEN WE TARGETED SOME, UH, CITY ADVOCATE PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH ADVOCACY GROUPS IN THE CITY.

AND WE QUICKLY FOUND THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT THE CITY IS USING, NOBODY KNEW WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

THERE'S A CRITICAL LACK OF AWARENESS ABOUT WHAT THESE MONITORING OR AKA SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES ARE.

SO WE QUICKLY ADDED A LITTLE MODULE TO OUR FOCUS GROUPS THAT USE THE, SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE RIGHT NOW.

AND THEY'RE SIMPLY ILLUSTRATIONS OF WHAT THE CITY DOES WITH SOME DATA GATHERING TECHNOLOGIES.

THE SLIDE YOU JUST LEFT IS OBVIOUSLY A DRONE.

WE'VE CERTAINLY SEEN A LOT OF DRONES IN THE NEWS USED FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

MANY OF OUR CITY UNITS USE DRONE TECHNOLOGIES, THE POLICE, FIRE, EMERGENCY MEDICAL UTILITIES.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, THERE IS ACTUALLY A CITY WORKING GROUP CENTERED ON DRONES AND HOW, WHAT BEST PRACTICES SHOULD BE AROUND DRONES.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD OF SHOT SPOTTER, BUT THEY, THE LAST TIME WE CHECKED LAST YEAR, THIS WAS NOT, UH, WE, WE CHECKED, UH, WE CHECKED LAST YEAR AND COULD NOT FIND THAT ANY EVIDENCE THAT SHOT SPOTTERS WERE IN USE IN AUSTIN.

THESE ARE VERY CONTROVERSIAL AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT THEY ARE USED ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES IN MANY CITIES.

THEY, AS THE TITLE SUGGEST, THEY DETECT WHAT SOUND LIKE GUNSHOTS, AND TYPICALLY THEY'RE DEPLOYED IN IN REGIONS WHERE POLICE BELIEVE.

THERE MAY BE THAT THAT MAY BE HEAVIER CRIME AREAS, AND THEY CAN ALERT POLICE TO GO TO CERTAIN LOCATIONS IF THEY HEAR SHOTS.

ONE REASON THEY'VE BEEN CONTROVERSIAL IS THEY ARE NOT FAIL SAFE.

THEY, UH, DETECT A LOT OF SOUNDS THAT MAY NOT BE SHOTS AT ALL.

SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CITIZEN OBJECTION TO SHOT SPOTTERS IN NUMEROUS LOCATIONS.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE SOME EXAMPLES OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE USED HERE IN AUSTIN.

AND INDEED SOME OF THESE SHOTS ARE FROM AUSTIN.

THE ONE ON THE UPPER LEFT, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC CAMERAS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THESE ARE PROBABLY THE CAMERAS YOU'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH.

THEY'RE VERY VISIBLE.

THEY'RE AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS.

THEY'RE REALLY ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THE HALO CAMERAS TO THE UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT ARE USED MORE IN DOWNTOWN AREAS AND HEAVY RETAIL AREAS.

THEY ARE USUALLY OPERATED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

AUSTIN USED TO HAVE RED LIGHT CAMERAS.

TEXAS, AS YOU MAY RECALL, GOT RID OF RED LIGHT CAMERAS.

THEY DETECT SPEEDING.

THEY WERE ELIMINATED BECAUSE THEY WERE WILDLY UNPOPULAR WITH THE ELECTORATE HERE IN THIS STATE.

MANY OTHER STATES STILL HAVE THEM.

UH, THEY, THEY TOO HAVE THE PROBLEM OF REPORTING PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH YELLOW LIGHTS AS THEY TURN RED.

AND THAT REALLY IRRITATES A LOT OF DRIVERS.

IN ANY CASE, THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN CCTV CAMERAS ARE STILL EVERYWHERE.

UM, THEY'RE NOT THAT PROMINENT IN THE AUSTIN SETTING.

THEY CAN BE USED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND OFTEN ARE USED BY THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

THESE ARE AMONG THE OLDEST CAMERA TECHNOLOGIES, UH, THAT CITIES HAVE USED AROUND THE WORLD.

MANY OF US ASSOCIATE THOSE WITH LONDON AND WITH WITH BRITAIN, WHICH DEPLOYED THEM VERY, VERY WIDELY BACK IN THE 1980S.

SO IN THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE, UH, ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER ILLUSTRATION OF OUR CITY TECHNOLOGY.

THE CITY TRAFFIC CAMERAS ACTUALLY SEND LIVE FEED VIDEO, LIVE FEED PHOTOS TO A CONTROL CENTER.

AND THAT CONTROL CENTER IS ILLUSTRATED IN THE LOWER RIGHT.

THE, OUR TRAFFIC MONITORING FOLKS DO NOT KEEP ANY OF THE FOOTAGE.

EVERYTHING IS LIVE MONITORED, WHICH WAS SORT OF A SURPRISE TO ME.

THERE

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ARE A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT THAT WE COULD GET INTO, IF YOU LIKE.

THEY HAVE VERY CAPABLE CAMERAS.

THEY'RE ALWAYS UPGRADING THEIR CAMERAS.

THE CAMERAS CAN TILT AND PAN AND ZOOM, AND THERE'S A DESIRE ON THE PART OF THEIR STAFF TO GET EVEN BETTER CAMERAS.

THIS IS THE, YOU SEE, UH, A GOOGLE MAP, GOOGLE STYLE MAP THAT SHOWS MANY OF THE CAMERA LOCATIONS IN AUSTIN.

OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF CAMERAS, A LOT OF TRAFFIC CAMERAS IN AUSTIN.

THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL IN MAJOR CITIES.

UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL ALSO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE LESS TYPICAL, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANTED THIS I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF, AND I WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF AS WELL.

THERE'S A TREND AMONG A LOT OF THE VENDORS WHO ARE SELLING CAMERA TECHNOLOGIES TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT FOR ONE, WHAT I CALL ONE STOP SHOPPING.

AND THE ONE STOP SHOPPING TAKES THE FORM OF UPGRADED STREET LIGHTS THAT HAVE EMBEDDED IN THEM A LOT OF TECHNOLOGICAL CAPABILITY.

THERE IS A VERY WELL KNOWN CASE IN SAN DIEGO, IN WHICH THE PUBLIC UTILITY UNIT FOR THE CITY UPGRADED ITS STREETLIGHTS TO SAVE MONEY AND TO HAVE BETTER LIGHTS.

MANY CITIES HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS.

UM, THEY ADOPTED A TECHNOLOGY THAT DID INDEED HAVE MUCH BETTER LIGHTS, MORE COST EFFICIENT LIGHTS.

THEY ALSO HAD MICROPHONES AND THEY HAD CAMERAS.

EVENTUALLY, AS THE POLICE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE CAMERA FACILITIES IN THESE LIGHTS, THEY BEGAN TO USE THE FOOTAGE AND BEGAN TO TRACK CERTAIN PEOPLE USING THAT CAMERA FOOTAGE WITHOUT REALLY ALERTING THE REST OF THE CITY UNITS OR THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY WERE DOING THIS.

AND ONCE CITIZENS FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, THERE WAS A HUGE BACKLASH IN THAT CITY.

ULTIMATELY, THE CITY, BECAUSE OF THE BACKLASH, THE CITY ACTUALLY ADOPTED A SURVEILLANCE ORDINANCE SO THAT THIS SORT OF THING WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN, SO THAT THE USE OF VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES WOULD BE MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT TO THE CITIZENRY.

UH, THE WAY IN WHICH THESE SLIDES ARE A LITTLE OUT OF DATE NOW IS BECAUSE I HAVE NOT, UM, HAVE NOT ACCESSED SOMETHING THAT I, I SUSPECT EVERYBODY IN THIS GROUP KNOWS ABOUT.

AND THAT IS THAT AUSTIN HAS PASSED A RESOLUTION IN THE SPRING TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT THESE TECHNOLOGIES AT AI MORE GENERALLY.

AND IT CAN CONVENED A WORKING GROUP, BASICALLY, TO BEGIN TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH THAT WORKING GROUP, AND I'M, I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR GROUP IN THE FUTURE.

SO LET ME TALK THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FINDINGS FROM OUR FOCUS GROUPS.

UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE A SUMMARY OF THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.

WE'RE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON MATTERS OF PRIVACY.

IN THE FACE OF CAMERA TECHNOLOGIES IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, AS, AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW, THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PRIVACY IN THE UNITED STATES.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, PROVISIONS THAT GIVE US PRIVACY IN DIFFERENT SPACES AND UNDER A VARIETY OF OTHER LAWS.

SOME OPERATE AT THE STATE LEVEL.

UM, DEPE AND EVERY STATE HAS DIFFERENT PRIVACY LAWS AND PRIVACY PROTECTIONS.

WE'RE, UH, LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT WE CALL TECH CONTEXTUAL INTEGRITY.

IT'S, IT'S A TERM OF ART WHERE WE DIDN'T ORIGINATE THAT TERM, BUT WE USE IT BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE'RE FACED WITH ARE SO NEW AND ARE EVOLVING SO QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY IN THE FACE OF THE CAPABILITIES OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE THAT WE BELIEVE PRIVACY HAS TO REALLY BE RETHOUGHT.

PRIVACY IS NOT A SIMP A SIMPLE MATTER AS IT WAS A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, OF A PUBLIC SPACE WHERE YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY AND A PRIVATE SPACE WHERE YOU HAVE, WHERE YOU HAVE TOTAL PRIVACY WITH THE OMNIPRESENCE OF SO MANY DEVICES, INCLUDING INTERNET OF THINGS, DEVICES, SOCIAL MEDIA AND PHONES.

THIS, THERE'S A DIFFERENT SET OF CONTEXT NOW IN WHICH WE EXPECT PRIVACY OR IN WHICH WE CAN CONTROL CERTAIN LEVELS OF PRIVACY OR CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTS IN WHICH WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER PRIVACY, EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT BE IN WHAT WE CONSIDER A PRIVATE SPACE.

THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO HIGHLIGHT CONTEXT.

AND TO THAT END, WE'RE INQUIRING OF PEOPLE AROUND THE TYPES OF INFORMATION THAT

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ARE THREATENED WITH RISK THREATENED OR COULD BE BENEFICIAL.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE USE OF CITY CAMERAS, WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE USING CAMERAS AND WHO SHOULD NOT BE USING CAMERAS AND WHAT THE LEVELS OF CONSENT MIGHT BE THAT WOULD, AND ALLOW THEM TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE CITY'S USE OF DIFFERENT CAMERA TECHNOLOGIES.

AND THEN, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE, WE WERE INVESTIGATING THE CONTEXTUAL FACTORS THAT MIGHT CONDITION THEIR RESPONSES.

AND IF, IF THAT SEEMS A LITTLE CONVOLUTED TO YOU, THE SIMPLE BOILED DOWN NOTION IS SIMPLY THAT WE THINK ABOUT CAMERAS VERY DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT USING A DRONE TO MONITOR A BURNING BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO WHEN THE POLICE MIGHT USE DRONE CAMERAS TO MONITOR A PUBLIC PROTEST.

THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT CONTEXTS, EVEN THOUGH THE TECHNOLOGIES ARE THE SAME.

SO, UH, WHEN WE, IF YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, WE SUMMARIZE OUR RESEARCH METHODS, AND I'M REALLY JUST GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THESE FOCUS GROUPS THAT I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

AND IF YOU LIKE, AND IF YOU HAVE TIME, I'LL LEAVE THIS TO YOU STEVE, TO, TO LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANNA HEAR ABOUT OUR CASE STUDY OF THE LIBRARY.

UH, BUT BASICALLY OUR DATA, THE DATA I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT ARE QUALITATIVE.

A LOT OF, BASED ON A LOT OF INTERVIEWS AND ESPECIALLY THESE FOCUS GROUPS.

THE COURSE OF OUR RESEARCH HAS OF COURSE INCLUDED A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH MEMBERS OF CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TRANSPORTATION.

AND WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE CHIEF PRIVACY OFFICER AND MEMBERS OF THE INNOVATION OFFICE AS WELL.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE GETS INTO SOME OF THESE CORE FINDINGS FROM OUR FOCUS GROUPS.

I'LL PREFACE THIS BY SAYING WE REALLY THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN, SAY, YOUNGER PEOPLE AND OLDER PEOPLE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY THOUGHT ABOUT PRIVACY AND TECHNOLOGIES.

WE REALLY THOUGHT THAT CITIZEN ACTIVISTS MIGHT HAVE VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THAN, THAN SAY, THAN, THAN SOME OF OUR, OTHER THAN TECH WORKERS MIGHT.

BUT IN FACT, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERGENCE ACROSS OUR FOCUS GROUPS.

UH, THE, AND I THINK THAT'S A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE SO NEW AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHAT'S INAPPROPRIATE HERE.

ONE OVERARCHING FINDING, HOWEVER, WAS THAT PEOPLE, EVERYBODY APPRECIATED THE SECURITY ASPECTS OF THESE SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES.

YOUNGER PEOPLE, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, ASSUME THAT, THAT THEIR PRIVACY OPTIONS HAVE BEEN LIMITED BECAUSE THEY SHARE SO MUCH ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

BUT THAT SAID, EVERYBODY FEELS AS IF THEY ARE BEING MONITORED IN DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS.

AND THE REFRAIN THAT CAME THROUGH VERY FREQUENTLY WAS THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GIVING UP AND SHARING WHAT THEY MIGHT CONSIDER PERSONAL DATA A LOT, A LOT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE DATA ARE BEING USED FOR GOOD PURPOSES.

THEY DID FEEL, AND I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THAT POINT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT FOR, FOR THE CITY, AS IT BEGINS TO THINK MORE IN A MORE, IN, IN A DEEPER WAY ABOUT DATA GOVERNANCE ISSUES.

THERE ARE COMPLICATIONS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CITED WITH RESPECT TO THE PERSONAL USE OF CAMERAS IN QUASI-PUBLIC SPACES.

THE ISSUE OF RING CAMERAS AND RING CAMERAS CAPTURING NON-PRIVATE SPACE SPACE OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE WAS CLEARLY UNSETTLING TO SOME PEOPLE, AS WAS THE FACT OF PEOPLE'S PERSONAL CAMERAS PERHAPS CAPTURING, UH, THEMSELVES IN THEIR BACKYARD OR ON THE STREET, OR WALKING DOGS ON SIDEWALKS.

THAT GOES TO THE POINT OF THE IDEA OF WHAT'S PRIVATE SPACE AND WHAT, WHAT'S PUBLIC SPACE IS NOT AS CLEAR AS IT PERHAPS ONCE, UH, ONCE WAS.

ANOTHER RESOUNDING ISSUE THAT CAME UP WITH RESPECT TO A DISCUSSION OF BENEFITS AND CONCERNS IN THE FOCUS GROUPS WAS THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO FEEL THAT TECHNOLOGY AND USE OF THESE SYSTEMS WAS NOT JUST A SHORTCUT TO DEALING WITH BIGGER, MORE COMPLEX PROBLEMS. IT MIGHT BE ONE THING TO PUT UP A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC CAMERAS, BUT IF, BUT IF FUNDAMENTAL SOLUTIONS TO TRAFFIC CONGESTION DON'T

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FOLLOW, WHAT GOOD ARE THE CAMERAS REALLY DOING THAT? THAT'S JUST MY EXAMPLE FOR YOU.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER EXAMPLES THAT THAT ONE COULD RECITE.

AND INDEED, A GREAT EXAMPLE CAME UP IN THE CASE OF THE CASE OF THE LIBRARY.

THE, OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM HAS 450 CAMERAS IN IT.

MOST OF THOSE ARE DOWNTOWN, OVER 200 OF THEM ARE DOWNTOWN.

AND THE USE OF THE CAMERAS THERE REALLY TACKLES EXACTLY THIS I, I THINK, GOES TO EXACTLY THIS QUESTION.

A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE DATA.

I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT CAMERAS ARE GENERATING IMAGES.

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS REALLY GOOD AT ANALYZING IMAGE DATA.

IT'S WAY BETTER THAN WE ARE AT ANALYZING DATA WITH OUR SIM WITH SIMPLE SITE.

BUT PEOPLE FELT THAT THERE WAS KIND OF AN UNCERTAIN EXCHANGE IN GIVING UP IMAGES OF THEMSELVES.

THEY WERE NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE GETTING IN RETURN.

SO THIS ISSUE OF A TRANSPARENCY AND OF RECIPROCITY CAME UP REPEATEDLY, AS DID THE ISSUE OF NOT PEOPLE NOT KNOWING WHERE THE DATA GO.

WHO USES THE DATA FROM ALL THESE, ALL THESE CAMERAS.

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE TRAFFIC CAMERA POLICIES ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, NOBODY REALLY KNEW WHAT THE CAMERA DATA POLICY WAS.

AND, AND INDEED THE, AT LEAST THE LIBRARY HAS A POLICY, IT'S KIND OF DEEP, IT, IT'S NOT EXACTLY HIDDEN, BUT IT'S NOT VERY VISIBLE.

UH, BUT ALL THAT BY WAY OF SAYING MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE DATA GO.

AND SO THEY WERE CALLING FOR SOME KIND OF DATA GOVERNANCE HERE, AND THEY EXPRESSED A KEEN INTEREST IN UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.

AND MY TERM FOR THAT WAS ALGORITHMIC LITERACY.

THAT'S MY PHRASE.

THAT IS NOT WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE SAID IN OUR FOCUS GROUPS.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHEN IT COMES TO CONTEXTUAL FEATURES, TWO BIG ISSUES CAME UP.

ONE HAD TO DO WITH THE UNCERTAINTY OF THIS PUBLIC SPACE ISSUE, AND THE OTHER HAD TO DO WITH THE REAL SCENARIOS WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ENCOUNTER TECHNOLOGY.

TO THE FIRST POINT, I'VE ALREADY BROUGHT UP THIS ISSUE OF SA SHARED SPACES.

A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE SHOWED THEM IMAGES OF DRONES, TALKED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT HOW DRONES COMPLICATE THE ISSUE OF PUBLICNESS.

THEY COULD, FOR EXAMPLE, REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT DRONES ARE MONITORING PUBLIC FESTIVALS IN Z OR PARK FOR SAFETY ISSUES.

IF SOMEBODY HAS HEAT STROKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S GREAT IF A DRONE CAMERA COULD SOMEHOW DETECT THAT AND DETECT A LOCATION AND BE ABLE TO CONVEY THAT TO EMS PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN GET THERE TO HELP.

THEY COULD DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THERE WERE OTHER SITUATIONS IN WHICH THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE AND WHAT WASN'T, AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE CONVENTIONS THAT THE CITY FOLLOWED ALREADY IN USING DRONES AND IN CAPTURING DRONE FOOTAGE ON THE SECOND POINT, UM, AS WE WORKED THROUGH DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHERE VARIOUS OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT I SHOWED YOU AT, AT THE BEGINNING TODAY, UM, ARE, ARE USED, THE FOCUS GROUPS REALLY DID SEEM TO CONVERGE ON THE IDEA THAT THERE IS NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL GOVERNANCE APPROACH TO USING THESE TECHNOLOGIES.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS A STATEMENT THAT COULD COVER ALL OF THESE SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES, BUT IT LOOKS TO, IT LOOKED TO THEM, AND IT CERTAINLY LOOKS TO ME AS IF SOMETHING THAT ENTAILS AND CAN APPRECIATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE GRANULAR CIRCUMSTANCES IS REALLY WHAT'S CALLED FOR.

UH, PEOPLE WERE VERY AWARE OF TRADE-OFFS BETWEEN PRIVACY AND SECURITY.

SOME OF THE TECHNICAL INVESTIGATIONS WE'RE DOING ARE, IS GEARED, THOSE INVESTIGATIONS ARE GEARED TO TRYING TO GET BOTH, TRYING TO ACTUALLY PROTECT PRIVACY, BUT ALSO PROTECT SECURITY.

BUT RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S, UH, FOR MANY PEOPLE AN UNCERTAIN KIND OF SEESAW RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PRIVACY AND SECURITY THAT I BELIEVE CI THE CITIES SHOULD BEGIN TO GRAPPLE WITH.

AND THERE ARE SOME WAYS THAT CITIES, OTHER CITIES ARE GRAPPLING WITH THIS.

UM, THERE WAS ALSO AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION THAT FOLKS MADE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN IS

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A TECH CITY.

WE HAVE A TECH INDUSTRY HERE.

LOT OF COMPANIES HERE.

UH, THESE ARE, AND THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT THE CITY USES ARE NOT UNFAMILIAR TO A LOT OF THE WORKFORCE HERE.

CERTAINLY THE DATA THAT THEY PRODUCE THAT'S NOT UNFAMILIAR TO THE WORKFORCE HERE TOO.

SO HAVING A SMART SET OF POLICIES IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP REPEATEDLY, UH, IN THE FOCUS GROUPS.

AND, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WITH RESPECT TO ACTORS USING THAT, THAT THAT FORMULATION I I SHARED WITH YOU EARLIER, WE FOUND THAT PEOPLE'S OWN EXPERIENCES AND THEIR OWN IDENTITY REALLY FIGURED INTO HOW THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THE RISKS OF BEING CAPTURED BY CAMERAS AND THE PROTECTIONS OF CAMERAS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE ISSUE OF ICE AND ICE CAP USING OR ASKING FOR CAMERA FOOTAGE IN ORDER TO INVESTIGATE WHAT WOULD BE I IMMIGRANT, UH, IMMIGRANT POPULATIONS DID COME UP IN OUR FOCUS GROUP DISCUSSIONS.

AND THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT CAMERA IMAGES AND CITY GATHERED DATA SERVING THOSE GOALS WHEN THE POPULATION OF AUSTIN MAY NOT APPROVE OF IT.

UM, SO THOSE, THOSE WERE KIND OF THE HIGH LEVEL POINTS OF OUR FOCUS GROUPS.

STEVE, DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE FOUND IN THE LIBRARY? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST TAKE THIS AS A BITE-SIZED CHUNK OF OUR FINDINGS AT THIS POINT? YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING THE QUESTION.

DR.

TROOVER, I, I SEEM TO REMEMBER YOU, UH, YOU PRESENTED MAYBE LAST YEAR AT SOME POINT ON THE PROJECT YES.

AT THE LIBRARY.

YOU WERE IN A SUBCOMMITTEE YEAH.

WHERE YOU SEE THIS.

UM, AND, AND, AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS GROUP WERE THERE TOO.

SURE, SURE.

YEAH.

UM, I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF, UH, THE TWO OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT ASKING TOO MUCH, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK, UH, MAYBE NEXT MONTH OR, OR THE MONTH AFTER TO TALK THROUGH THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT.

UM, WELL, WE HAVE, I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT EVEN MORE PERTINENT TO THE CONTEMPORARY MOMENT WITH THE RESOLUTION MM-HMM.

AND THE FINDINGS OF THE WORKING GROUP.

WELL, WE, WE ARE WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT, THAT I THINK WOULD BE REALLY OF INTEREST TO THIS COMMITTEE.

WE'VE LOOKED AT, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE 25 CITIES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY ADOPTED ORDINANCES AROUND SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES.

AND I THINK YOU MIGHT BE VERY INTERESTED IN THOSE FINDINGS AND HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE DEALT WITH, WITH THESE, WITH THESE SORTS OF TECHNOLOGIES AND THEIR ROLES IN THEM.

YEAH.

SO I COULD, I COULD DEFINITELY SHARE THAT AND THAT MIGHT BE MORE EXCITING.

YEAH.

THAT, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE, TO SHIFT GEARS A LITTLE BIT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE MY, MY QUESTION TO YOU.

I HEARD YOU, I HEARD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT UPFRONT ABOUT, UH, ONE CITY AND PASSING AN ORDINANCE.

YES.

UH, SO MAYBE TIED TO, TO YOUR COMMENT THERE, I'M CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THINKING TACTICALLY AROUND THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR OUR COMMISSION TO ADVISE CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO AROUND, UM, PERHAPS, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION AROUND AN ORDINANCE? DOES THE CITY OF AUSTIN ALREADY HAVE AN ORDINANCE? COULD COULD IT BE IMPROVED? IT, IT DOES NOT.

WHERE DO WE STACK UP? SO CURIOUS TO GET YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.

YEAH.

RIGHT NOW, AUSTIN DOES NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

WHAT WE LEARNED IN OUR OWN RESEARCH IS DIFFERENT UNITS OF THE CITY HAVE INTERNAL POLICIES ABOUT HOW THEY HANDLE DATA.

UH, JUST AS WE WERE TALKING TO THE TRANSPORTATION, AUSTIN MOBILITY, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY CAME UP WITH AN INTERNAL POLICY FOR THEIR DATA.

THE LIBRARY WE DISCOVER DOES HAVE A DATA POLICY.

THEY KEEP THEIR DATA FROM THEIR CAMERAS FOR TWO WEEKS, AND THEN THEY DELETE IT.

IT IS, UH, DATA THAT COULD BE, UH, OBTAINED WITH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A A A, A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

ANYBODY COULD OBTAIN IT WITHIN THOSE TWO WEEKS, OF COURSE, BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE A POLICY.

OTHER UNITS DO NOT HAVE POLICIES.

SOME OF THE UNITS WE TALKED TO WERE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THIS IS NOT ATYPICAL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE FACT THAT WE'VE LOOKED HIGH AND LOW TO FIND CITIES WITH ORDINANCES.

WE'VE ONLY FOUND 25 THAT TO ME, I, THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE NO POLICIES WHATSOEVER.

GOOD TO, TO KNOW.

SO, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS A TRAIN THAT'S COMING.

GOOD TO KNOW.

UM, YEAH, SO LET, I I, I DO WANT TO KEEP IT MOVING.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SHIFT TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

DR.

TROOVER, UH, I SAW COMMISSIONER DESTA MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION.

GO FOR IT.

SO, UH,

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RELATING TO THESE, UH, TO THIS LAST COMMENT ABOUT 25 CITIES HAVING ORDINANCES OR, UH, SOME CITIES HAVE POLICIES THAT ARE DIFFERENT BY DEPARTMENT, ET CETERA.

IS THIS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF A NATIONAL MANDATE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S SOME NATIONAL STANDARDS WHICH ARE ALWAYS MORE COMPLICATED TO, UH, CREATE? WOULD IT BE THAT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, LET'S SAY THE CONFERENCE OF MAYORS YES.

COME UP WITH A PROJECT YEAH.

THAT, THAT ESSENTIALLY PROMOTES A SET OF STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO THE CITIES.

THIS ISSUE IS BEING TALKED ABOUT AT SORT OF A NATIONAL LEVEL AT, AT AMONG ORGANIZATIONS THAT AGGREGATE, UH, TELECOMMUNICATION STAFF THAT ORG, THAT THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND PROBABLY THE CONFERENCE OF MAYORS AS WELL.

SO IT IS, THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT IS OCCURRING RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? YES, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'LL SAY GO LONGHORNS.

UH, SECOND, UH, I'LL ASK A QUESTION ABOUT MORE SPECIFICS AROUND THE ORDINANCES YOU WERE REFERRING TO THAT THE 25 CITIES HAVE.

YES.

UH, WERE YOU SAYING SPECIFICALLY THAT THOSE ARE LIKE DATA POLICIES SURROUNDING, UH, SURVEILLANCE VIDEO SPECIFICALLY, OR WAS IT LIKE A DATA POLICY IN GENERAL? DATA LIKE POLICIES IS LIKE A CATEGORY.

UH, WHAT DOES ORDINANCES MEAN PER SE? SOME, THERE'S A CLUSTER THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR, AND INDEED THE A CLU HAS PROVIDED SOME TEMPLATE LANGUAGE FOR MANY OF THESE, BUT THERE'S A, A BUNCH THAT ARE QUITE DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE NOT SPECIFIC NECESSARILY TO CAMERAS.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE EARLIEST CITIES TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE WAS SEATTLE.

UH, THEY ADOPTED THEIR FIRST ORDINANCE IN 2013.

THEY REVISED IT BECAUSE THEY FOUND SOME FLAWS IN THEIR FIRST ORDINANCE.

IT WAS THIS, THE FIRST ORDINANCE REFERRED JUST TO TECHNOLOGIES.

AND THE INTERPRETATION OF DATA GATHERING TECHNOLOGIES WAS HARDWARE.

SO CITY UNITS THAT WERE DEPLOYING SOFTWARE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE EXEMPT FROM THE ORDINANCE, , AND THEY WEREN'T, I MEAN, THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE.

SO THEY REVISED IT TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE SPECIFIC IN 2018.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CITIZEN DISCUSSION AND CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN COMING UP WITH THAT.

UH, SEATTLES IS, AND PORTLANDS TOO, ARE VERY FULL BLOWN ORDINANCES.

THEY COVER A LOT OF ELEMENTS OF, OF DATA AND OF TECHNOLOGIES, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO ROUTINELY REPORT BACK TO THE CITIZENS AS WELL.

ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WE'VE TRIED TO FOLLOW UP WITH CITIES TO SEE IF IN FACT, THEY ARE REPORTING, THEY, THEIR ORDINANCES SAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT.

WELL, ALREADY WE FOUND THAT, WELL, THESE REPORTS ARE KIND OF HARD TO GENERATE, AND NOT EVERY CITY HAS EVEN EVEN DONE IT.

SO, WHICH IS ALSO KIND OF INTERESTING.

SO IT, IT SUGGESTS TO ME THAT IF AN ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED SOMEWHERE, MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF REALLY CAN BUY INTO AND CAN FOLLOW UP AS SUITABLY WITH, OR HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT IS EQUIPPED TO DO THE APPROPRIATE AUDITS TO, TO DELIVER THE RESULTS THAT ARE IN THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCE.

AS A FOLLOW UP, IS THERE A WAY TO FIND WHAT THOSE 25 CITIES ARE? I HAVE A, I HAVE A LIST.

I COULD SEND IT.

I MEAN, I HAVE A BIG SPREADSHEET BECAUSE WE'RE ACTIVELY GATHERING DATA ON THAT.

YES.

DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND IT TO YOU? THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

I WOULD LOVE THAT.

YEAH.

DR.

STRO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SENDING THAT TO, TO DAN AND HE CAN DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE, THE ENTIRE COMMISSION.

UM, HAPPY TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YEAH, CERTAINLY SEEING, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, UH, TO ADVISE THE CITY.

SO, UH, YEAH, WE, MAYBE WE CAN HANDLE THIS AT A, UH, SMALLER WORKING GROUP LEVEL, AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU INVOLVED WITH ADVISING US IN SOME CAPACITY, DR.

TROOVER.

SURE.

I'D BE OPEN TO THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DR.

TROOVER? YEAH, WELL, I DO HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION.

MAY I ASK THAT? GO FOR IT.

SO YOU HAD STARTED YOUR PRESENTATION WITH THE DELPHI STUDY, UH, SURVEY.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING DONE MY SHARE OF SURVEYS, HAVING BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF MY MULTIPLE SURVEYS, THERE'S ALWAYS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WILL ACCEPT THE RESULTS AND ALWAYS A GROUP THAT WILL CHALLENGE THE RESULTS.

AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW WIDE THE SURVEY IS.

WHAT IS THE DATA SPACE, WHAT IS THE SAMPLE SPACE, WHAT IS THE POPULATION SPACE YOU'RE TARGETING, ET CETERA.

YES.

SO JUST LIKE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO,

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UH, UH, MONITOR THE USE OR ABUSE OF TECHNOLOGY, WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU MONITOR YOUR USE OF DATA IN THE SURVEY SO THAT IT STANDS ON ITS OWN AS A DEFINITIVE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, STUDY.

WELL IN THAT, ACTUALLY THERE, THERE, THERE'S AN OUT WITH THE DELPHI SURVEY.

A DELPHI SURVEY IS, SURVEY IS NOT A RANDOM SAMPLE.

A DELPHI SURVEY IS A SURVEY OF EXPERTS.

OKAY.

SO WE JUST WENT TO A VARIETY OF SOURCES THAT CLAIMED EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA AND SURVEYED THEM.

UM, I FEEL LIKE A DELPHI SURVEY USUALLY HAS SEVERAL ITERATIONS.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TWO OR THREE ROUNDS OF SURVEYING PEOPLE.

UM, AND WE ONLY DID ONE ROUND.

WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THE SECOND ROUND ON THAT.

SO I ONLY USED THE DELPHI SURVEY RESULTS AS A HEURISTIC.

IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE EXPERTS THOUGHT WERE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL DATA.

AND SHOTSPOTTER, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS RIGHT UP THERE.

OKAY.

AS ONE OF THE CONTROVERSIAL TECHNOLOGIES.

WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, DR.

TROOVER, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION FOR BEING AVAILABLE TO US AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

AND, UH, ONCE WE GET THAT, UH, WORKING GROUP, UH, STOOD UP, FOCUSED ON, UM, ON SURVEILLANCE, WE'LL CERTAINLY CALL ON YOU.

UM, BUT WITH THAT, WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN OUR AGENDA.

SO WE'LL

[3. “AI Coding Makerspace: Youth Creating AI Voice Chatbots for Social Justice and other inclusive AI literacy programs” presentation by community digital inclusion organization, Changing Expectations (Dr. Phillip Eaglin, Founder, Changing Expectations)]

GO AHEAD AND, AND MOVE FORWARD TO AGENDA ITEM THREE.

UH, DR.

ELIN, PLEASE.

WELL, HELLO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE.

WELL, GREAT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

DR.

STROGER'S PRESENTATION.

I MET A YOUNG MAN NAMED, UH, JEFF WITH THE AUTONOMY INSTITUTE HERE IN AUSTIN.

YOU ALL MAY KNOW HIM, AND HE IS OF GREAT, UH, INTEREST, HAS GREAT INTEREST IN THIS IDEA OF ADVANCING AI AND EDGE TECHNOLOGY.

AND SO THAT'S WHO CAME TO MIND IN HIS WORK AS I WAS LISTENING TO DR.

TROOVER AND, UH, BEING IN AUSTIN NOW 25 YEARS, I APPRECIATE AUSTIN BEING ON THE FRONT LINE, UH, IN ADVANCING TECHNOLOGY.

UH, AND SO WITH THAT, UH, I THINK I SENT SOME SLIDES OVER TO DAN, AND HE'S GONNA SEE IF WE CAN GET 'EM UP.

UH, WE JUST EXCHANGED A FEW MESSAGES TO SEE.

YEAH.

GIVE US JUST A MOMENT.

I KNOW.

I CAN SEE THEM WORKING ON IT.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

WELL, I'LL JUST SAY SINCE I STARTED WITH, UH, BEING HERE 25 YEARS, I ACTUALLY, UH, MOVED TO AUSTIN TO ADVANCE SIGNS AND MATH EDUCATION THROUGH THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AT THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT LAB THAT YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN OF, CALLED C-L-S-E-D-L, SOUTHWEST EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT LAB SINCE 1968 WAS THE ARM OF THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO IMPROVE, UH, TEACHING AND LEARNING ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY IN OUR FIVE STATE REGION.

UH, AND SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, UH, SHORTLY.

BUT THERE I CAN SEE MY SLIDES.

AND SO I'M WITH A NONPROFIT HERE IN AUSTIN, CHANGING EXPECTATIONS, AND WE WERE SUPPORTED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S G TOP PROGRAM TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT LAST YEAR THE BLACK GIRLS IN AI CODING MAKERSPACE.

IN ADDITION TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WE HAD SUPPORT FROM THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND FROM GOOGLE.

AND I WAS ASKED, UH, A WHILE BACK, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GOOGLE, THE INTERNATIONAL, UH, COMPANY? UH, I SAID, YES, NOT JUST THE LOCAL, UH, OFFICE, BUT THE INTERNATIONAL, UH, ORGANIZATION OR CORPORATION SUPPORTED CHANGING EXPECTATIONS.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR, UH, SPONSORSHIP OVER THE PAST 13 YEARS.

AND SO WITH THAT, YOU CAN SEE MY BACKGROUND.

I LIKE TO START WITH THAT.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M A LONGTIME EDUCATOR OF 34 YEARS.

SO I'VE BEEN AT THIS, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, LONGER THAN MANY PEOPLE STICK AROUND IN EDUCATION.

STARTED AS A SCIENCE TEACHER TEACHING PHYSICS IN THE EARLY NINETIES BEFORE COMPUTERS WERE EVEN IN THE CLASSROOM.

UH, I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE INTRODUCED AROUND 91 OR SO.

AND, UM, AND THAT WAS QUITE AN INNOVATION AND TEACHING SCIENCE, I REALIZED THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL WAS TO HELP STUDENTS ADVANCE, UH, SCIENCE AND CREATE TECHNOLOGY.

AND SO THIS WAS LONG BEFORE WE EVEN UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE INTERNET WAS IN ITS APPLICATION IN, UH, IN MODERN SOCIETY.

AND SO WENT ON TO WORK IN STEM, COMPUTER SCIENCE, EDUCATION, AND NOW AI EDUCATION, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE EDUCATION.

AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF ORGANIZATION CODE.ORG BACK IN 2014, STARTED A INITIATIVE CALLED THE HOUR OF CODE TO ADVANCE COMPUTER SCIENCE AROUND

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THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD.

AND I BECAME A FACILITATOR WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, WORKED WITH THOUSANDS OF TEACHERS, UH, RIGHT HERE IN TEXAS TO ADVANCE COMPUTER SCIENCE.

AND SO FOUND A CHANGING EXPECTATIONS IN 2011.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR MISSION IS TO CREATE STEM COMPUTING AND NOW AI LITERACY TEACHING AND LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE TRADITIONALLY UNDERSERVED IN STEM IN THEIR TEACHERS.

AND SO THAT HAS BEEN THE MISSION FOR 13 YEARS.

UH, AND SO PRIOR TO THAT, AS I SAID, I SPENT 21 YEARS IN EDUCATION.

I'LL JUST JUMPED DOWN, UH, HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE TEACHER, UH, STEM PD PROVIDER FOR THE US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION HERE IN AUSTIN FOR THE EISENHOWER MATH AND SCIENCE CONSORTIUM, THE COMPREHENSIVE CENTERS.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THOSE 21 YEARS FOR THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY, AS AN EDUCATOR PREPARATION SPECIALIST, I ALWAYS TELL THE TEACHERS THAT I WAS THE LAST GOOD GUY AT TEA.

AND SO IF YOU'VE WORKED FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, INCLUDING THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY, THEN YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS TO A TEACHER, UH, TO BE TOLD AT, UM, THE AGENCY, UH, TEA DOES AS MUCH AS IT CAN TO SUPPORT EDUCATION.

BUT LET ME JUST SAY OFF THE RECORD AND ON THE RECORD, UH, WE COULD DO A WHOLE LOT BETTER AT THE STATE LEVEL, AT THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY.

AND SO, UH, DURING THE 13 YEARS, I'LL JUST SAY, I WENT ON TO, UH, DEVELOP THE MY BROTHERS KEEPER CODING MAKERSPACE AND THE BLACK GIRLS AND AI CODING MAKERSPACE.

WE'VE HAD FIVE COHORTS OF THE MY BROTHERS KEEPER CODING MAKER SPACE, AND YOU'LL SEE A SLIDE ABOUT THAT SHORTLY.

AND THEN IN THE PAST SIX YEARS, TWO NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION PROJECTS ON BROADENING PARTICIPATION IN STEM AND COMPUTING, UH, THROUGH CHANGING EXPECTATIONS.

AND I'LL ADD BACK IN 2018, PARTICIPATED IN A GROUP CALLED AI FOR K 12.

SO WE STARTED A LONG TIME AGO THINKING ABOUT HOW TO PREPARE K 12 STUDENTS AND TEACHERS TO TEACH AI AND TO LEARN HOW TO USE AI.

THIS WAS WELL BEFORE GENERATIVE AI.

AND SO THAT WAS AN NSF PROJECT THROUGH CARNEGIE MELLON, UH, THAT WE WERE INVOLVED IN CALLED AI FOR K 12.

AND SO HERE'S THE PROJECT THAT I'M, UH, SHARING WITH YOU, UH, TODAY.

AGAIN, AS I SAID, THE BLACK GIRLS IN AI CODING MAKERSPACE SUPPORTED THIS PAST YEAR BY GTOP S WE HAD 14 BLACK FEMALE STUDENTS IN THE FIRST COHORT WHO DESIGNED AI VOICE CHAT BOTS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

UH, BUT AT THAT LINK THERE, IF YOU'RE ABLE NOW OR LATER TO GO TO THAT LINK, YOU'LL SEE PICTURES OF THOSE, UH, YOUNG LADIES, UH, MEETING THERE AT THE CARVER MUSEUM AND THE CARVER LIBRARY IN EAST AUSTIN SINCE LAST, UH, JULY, UH, AND AUGUST, AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE FALL AND SPRING, UH, THIS PAST SPRING.

SO THERE'S SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROGRAM THERE ON THE FLYER.

YOU CAN SEE WHEN WE MET, UH, AND, UH, THE TOPIC WAS, UH, DESIGNING AI VOICE CHAT BOTS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE.

AND FROM OUR NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION PROJECT, WE LEARNED THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY A SOCIAL JUSTICE TOPIC FOR THE STUDENTS AND TEACHERS TO WORK ON.

SO WE SELECTED THE TOPIC AN ADDRESSING ANTI-BLACK POLICE VIOLENCE AND BRUTALITY.

SO IN THIS PROJECT, THE STUDENTS HAD A CHANCE TO DESIGN THOSE AI VOICE CHATBOTS TO LEARN HOW TO USE A TOOL CALLED IBM WATSON ASSISTANT TO, UH, DESIGN THOSE CHAT BOTS, UH, AND THEN EARN A MICRO CREDENTIAL OR DIGITAL BADGE FROM IBM, UH, THAT INDICATES THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO LEVERAGE THAT TOOL TO DESIGN, UH, AI.

AND SO WE STARTED THIS BACK IN 2019 WITH THE SUPPORT OF IBM RIGHT HERE IN AUSTIN.

SO IF I COULD REITERATE, UH, THAT IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE TECH COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN TO SUPPORT, UH, STEM EDUCATION TO THE, UH, EXTENT THAT THAT NSF PROJECT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF IBM HELPING US UNDERSTAND HOW TO USE IBM WATSON ASSISTANT TO BUILD THAT CHATBOT.

AND SO THAT FLYER IS AT THAT WEBSITE ALSO.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT AND SEE MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHEN WE MET AND WHAT WE DID, UH, DURING THE PROJECT.

BUT I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE WILL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE STUDENTS DID OR HOW THEY BENEFITED IN THIS PROJECT.

SO, AS I SAID, IN 2019, UH, THROUGH A NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION PROJECT, WHICH WAS REALLY ABOUT BROADENING PARTICIPATION IN COMPUTING CALLED A CS FOR ALL

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RESEARCH PRACTITIONER PARTNERSHIP, WHERE WE WERE FOCUSED ON UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEMS OF PRACTICE THAT FACILITATE OR HINDER ACCESS TO COMPUTER SCIENCE FOR BLACK AND HISPANIC STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES, WE NOT ONLY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS OF PRACTICE THAT HINDER ACCESS, WE NEEDED TO DEVELOP A SOLUTION TO FACILITATE ACCESS TO LEARNING COMPUTER SCIENCE.

AND IN THAT CASE, WE DECIDED TO DESIGN, UH, AN AI CURRICULUM THAT MET THE NEEDS AND INTERESTS OF THOSE STUDENTS, BLACK AND HISPANIC STUDENTS.

AND THAT WAS TO DESIGN AN AI VOICE CHAT BOT THAT ADDRESSED A SOCIAL JUSTICE TOPIC THAT THE STUDENTS LEARN.

UM, THEY, THEY COULD COLLECT DATA ON, UH, THE TOPIC AND USE THAT DATA IN TURN TO DESIGN THAT CHAT BOT.

AND AS WE ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE IDEA THAT DATA IS THE ISSUE THAT LEADS, UH, TO A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IN AI, THE DATA'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, UH, INTERESTS AND THE LIVED EXPERIENCES OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, THEN IT WILL NOT BENEFIT, IT WILL HARM THOSE COMMUNITIES.

AND, UH, SO WE INTENDED TO TURN THE TABLE ON THAT DYNAMIC AND TEACH THE KIDS THAT WE COULD USE AI TO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR, UM, FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

AND SO THE KIDS LEARN HOW TO DESIGN INCLUSIVE AI IS WHAT WE CALL IT.

THE SECOND ITEM THERE, INCLUSIVE AI DEVELOPERS, NOT JUST CONSUMERS, AND LEARN HOW TO CONSTRUCT AI KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE 21ST CENTURY.

SO NOT JUST AS WE NOW KNOW, USING GENERATIVE AI TO INCREASE EFFICIENCY, BUT ALSO DEVELOPING AND CHANGING THE DIVERSITY OF THOSE WHO ARE DEVELOPING, UH, AND IN A, IN THE SAME SENSE IMPACTING THE IMPACT OF AI ON UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

AND SO THE THIRD ITEM THERE, YOU SEE THE KIDS, UH, FOCUSED ON LEARNING HOW TO USE, HOW TO DESIGN THE AI VOICE CHAT BOX, AS THEY SAID, BY COLLECTING DATA TO ENSURE THAT BLACK HISTORY LIVED EXPERIENCES AND CULTURES ARE USED TO ADDRESS A SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUE.

IN OTHER WORDS, TO HAVE SOCIAL IMPACT, SOMEONE TOLD ME WE WERE, WE USED AI AS A SOCIAL TECHNICAL SOLUTION TO ADDRESS, UH, SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES.

AND, UH, ALL THESE YEARS LATER, SINCE 2019, JUST THIS WEEK, I LEARNED THAT THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON USING THIS PROCESS CALLED DESIGN JUSTICE TO DESIGN AI.

BUT BACK IN 2019, WE STARTED TO INCORPORATE THAT PROCESS IN THE DESIGN OF OUR AI VOICE CHATBOTS TO, AS IT SAYS THERE, ADDRESS, UH, UH, EXPLICITLY ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES.

UH, AND RATHER THAN REPRODUCE STRUCTURAL INEQUALITIES ARE TO EXPLICITLY CHALLENGE, UH, BIAS INSTEAD OF REPRODUCING STRUCTURAL INEQUALITIES.

AND SO HOPEFULLY THE KIDS ARE, UH, GOING TO GO ON AND, UH, ACTUALLY BECOME PART OF, OF THE CHANGE THAT WE KNOW IS NEEDED IN THE DESIGN OF AI HAVING PARTICIPATED IN THE BLACK GIRLS AND AI CODING MAKER SPACE.

AND SO I KNOW THEY WILL, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS SHORT VIDEO CLIP, IF IT WILL PLAY OF A ACTUAL DEMO OF ONE OF THE AI VOICE CHATBOTS DESIGNED.

MY NAME IS CLARISSA ON ONE OF THE STUDENTS TEAMS. I'M THAT EDUCATES PEOPLE ON POLICE BRUTALITY.

GO RIGHT DOWN TO THE BOTTOM.

THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE FIVE UP PLAY BUTTON.

OKAY, THERE IT GOES.

HI.

WHAT'S UP? WHAT IS POLICE BRUTALITY? LET'S SEE IF YOU HEAR THE SOUND.

I AM NOT QUITE SURE IF THE SOUND IS COMING THROUGH.

NO.

POLICE BRUTALITY REFERS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT'S COMING THROUGH IN THE UNJUSTIFIABLE USE OF PHYSICAL OR VERBAL AGGRESSION, PARTICULARLY TOWARDS INDIVIDUALS OF COLOR.

THIS TREATMENT CONSTITUTES A VIOLATION OF THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS AND AN ABUSE OF POWER.

OKAY.

HOW EVERYONE ONLINE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR IT, UH, BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.

THE STUDENTS DESIGNED THE CONVERSATION, UH, FOR THE CHAT BOT USING, AS I SAID, IBM WATSON ASSISTANT.

THEY CREATED THE DIALOGUE FROM DATA THEY COLLECTED BY INTERVIEWING BLACK FAMILY, FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AROUND THIS SOCIAL JUSTICE TOPIC.

AND THEIR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT FOR FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF

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ANTI-BLACK POLICE VIOLENCE AND BRUTALITY.

AND THESE SLIDES WILL BE SHARED, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT TEAM'S, UH, AI VOICE CHAT BOT.

WE ALSO DESIGNED THIS INTERFACE, UH, USING, AS YOU CAN SEE, A CONTAINER ON AZURE WORKING WITH A LOCAL SOFTWARE ENGINEER WHO VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME TO HELP US DEVELOP THIS, WHAT WE CALL WEB APP AI, VOICE WEB APP TO INTERACT WITH THE CHAT BOT ON WATSON ASSISTANT.

AND SO IN 2019, WE HAD WHAT WE CALL RULES-BASED AI AND NOT GENERATIVE AI, BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD TO INCLUDE DESIGNING GENERATIVE AI VOICE CHAT BOTS IN OUR NEXT COHORT.

AND SO I THANK YOU SO MUCH, DAN, FOR TRYING TO SHOW THAT, UH, WE'LL SHARE THESE SLIDES AND EVERYONE WILL BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO ONE OF THE DEMOS.

WE HAD THREE AI VOICE CHATBOTS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE DEVELOPED BY THE RECENT COHORT OF THE BLACK GIRLS IN AI CODING MAKER SPACE.

AND SO, UM, I WANTED TO MOVE ON FROM, UH, THE CODING MAKER SPACE TO WHAT SOME OF OUR FUTURE PLANS ARE.

AND I SHARED THIS AT A RECENT VETERAN'S, UH, FAMILY AND MILITARY EVENT, UH, THAT NEHEMIAH PITTS, UH, LED WITH A CC, THAT THESE ARE SOME OF OUR PLANS.

WE KNOW THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE CHALLENGED WITH, UH, IMPLEMENTING AI AND TEACHING KIDS TO USE AI.

AND SO MY ONLY AND BEST ADVICE IS THAT WE DO WHAT WE CAN OUTSIDE OF SCHOOLS IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY PARENTS, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE BENEFITS TO AI THAT WE'VE NEVER REACHED IN EDUCATION IN MY 34 YEARS.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE CALL PERSONALIZED LEARNING.

AND SO I HAVE, UH, PERSONALLY OBSERVED AND PRACTICED USING GENERATIVE AI TO, UH, TO LEARN NEW TOPICS AND SEEN A LOT OF THE WHAT'S COMING OUT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF AI AND IMPROVING ACCESS FOR UNDERSERVED KIDS THAT I'M GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN START PROVIDING THESE GENERATIVE AI 1 0 1 WORKSHOPS, SAFETY TOOLKITS, AND PROMPT ENGINEERING WORKSHOPS FOR UNSERVED AND UNDERSERVED, UH, COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY, UH, THE BLACK COMMUNITY HERE IN AUSTIN THROUGH AN EFFORT CALLED THE BLACK CHURCHES FOR AI LITERACY INITIATIVE THAT I JUST EMAILED, UH, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT TO THE DECA COMMUNITY ON YESTERDAY.

SO THESE ARE THREE WORKSHOPS THERE, UH, PRETTY MUCH DEVELOPED.

AND, UH, MY GOAL IS TO WORK WITH, UH, BLACK CHURCH LEADERS AND BLACK PARENTS TO HELP THEM LEARN HOW TO FACILITATE THESE INTERACTIVE WORKSHOPS TO GIVE HANDS-ON, UM, EXPERIENCES FOR, FOR OUR COMMUNITY WHO, WHO'S UNDERSERVED TO LEARN HOW TO USE GENERATIVE AI, UH, TO TO IMPROVE STUDENT ACCESS TO, UH, TO LEARNING THAT, AS I SAID, SO MANY STUDENTS HAVE LEFT, BEEN LEFT BEHIND.

UM, AND, UH, SO I THINK, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON CHANGING EXPECTATIONS.

ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS HAS BEEN THE MY BROTHERS KEEPER CODING MAKERSPACE FIVE COHORTS, UH, SINCE 2014.

AND THIS WAS, UH, LAUNCHED WITH THE NATIONAL EFFORT FROM THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS, UH, MEN OF, UH, YOUNG MEN OF COLOR AND THEIR OPPORTUNITY OR LACK THEREOF IN OUR COUNTRY.

I DECIDED AS A LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBER IN AUSTIN, THAT THROUGH CHANGING EXPECTATIONS, I COULD CREATE THESE SATURDAY PROGRAMS AROUND STEM.

AND IN THE EARLY DAYS, WE FOCUSED ON ROBOTICS AND A MAKER MAKERSPACE DESIGNING THINGS USING, UH, EQUIPMENT LIKE THE RASPBERRY PIE, WHICH SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF.

AND, UH, AND, AND SINCE THEN MOVED INTO TOPICS LIKE WEB VR.

IN 2017, PARTNERED WITH THE MOZILLA FOUNDATION AND GOOGLE FIBER HERE IN AUSTIN TO DESIGN THE MY BROTHERS KEEPER CODING MAKERSPACE ON USING A TOOL CALLED A-FRAME TO DESIGN WEB VR BEFORE THE METAVERSE.

AND HAD THE YOUNG MEN THERE AT THE CARVER MUSEUM, UH, LEARNING HOW TO CREATE VIRTUAL REALITY ON THE WEB AND INTEGRATING, UH, 360 VIDEO OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AROUND THE CARVER MUSEUM.

AND SO WE'VE GONE ON TO HAVE TWO COHORTS, MY BROTHER'S KEEPER FOCUSED ON DESIGNING AI VOICE CHAT BOTS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE.

AND THERE YOU CAN SEE THE FLYER

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FOR OUR MOST RECENT ONE WAS THIS PAST YEAR, UH, APRIL, MAY, AND JUNE JULY OF LAST SUMMER.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF, UH, PHOTOS THERE AT THAT WEBSITE.

UH, WHEN YOU GET THE SLIDES, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT LINK TO GO AND SEE THE YOUNG MEN RIGHT FROM RIGHT HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS, LEARNING ABOUT AI AND HOW TO DESIGN IT.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, I DON'T THINK THIS VIDEO IS GONNA SHOW, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT OUR WEB VR CODING MAKERSPACE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH GOOGLE FIBER AND THE MOZILLA FOUNDATION THERE AT THE CARVER MUSEUM.

ONCE YOU GET THESE SLIDES, YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO WRITE THAT, WATCH THAT SHORT VIDEO CLIP OF US ACTUALLY, UH, WORKING ON OUR WEB VR SCENES.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, SOME TEACHERS LEARN HOW TO DESIGN WEB VR, UH, AS WELL BACK IN 2017.

AND SO WE WON'T ATTEMPT TO SHOW THIS VIDEO.

I'LL JUST ASK YOU TO GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT OF CHANGING EXPECTATIONS WAS IN 2016, THOSE 10 YOUNG MEN RIGHT FROM RIGHT HERE IN THE AUSTIN, TEXAS AREA AND MYSELF AND THEIR PARENTS, WERE INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE, TO THE INCLUSIVE STEM EDUCATION FOR YOUTH OF COLOR, UH, CONFERENCE.

AND, UH, AFTER THAT EVENT, UH, WE WENT ON TO RECEIVE OUR FIRST NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION AWARD, AS I SAID, FOR TWO YEARS FOCUSED ON COMPUTING AND CYBERSECURITY.

FROM THAT DEVELOPED, UH, IT WAS A RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO INCREASE THEIR INTEREST AND PARTICIPATION IN COMPUTING CYBERSECURITY.

WE'VE WORKED ON WHAT WE CALL AND STILL CALL IOT, INTERNET OF THINGS DEVICES, UH, AS YOU KNOW, MAY KNOW THAT INVOLVES THE USE OF PYTHON PROGRAMMING AND INTEGRATED WAYS TO SECURE BOTH HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE, UM, IN THOSE IOT DEVICES.

AND, UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF THE HISTORY OF CHANGING EXPECTATIONS.

AND, UH, I THINK, UH, WE'RE WRAPPING UP.

WE HAVE MAYBE ONE OR TWO MORE SLIDES HERE, SO WAYS YOU COULD SUPPORT OUR UPCOMING EFFORTS WILL BE TO CONTINUE THE BLACK GIRLS IN AI CODING MAKER SPACE THROUGH OUR SECOND YEAR OF GTOP S FUNDING.

UH, AND AGAIN, I THANK THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND, UH, THE COMMISSION FOR SUPPORTING US TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT FOR BLACK GIRLS IN, UH, AUSTIN AREA, AND TO, UH, INTEGRATE THE MY BROTHER'S KEEPER CODING MAKERSPACE IN A CREATIVE WAY OF GETTING THE BLACK GIRLS TO BE MENTORS AND ROLE MODELS FOR THOSE BOYS.

AND TO START THE BLACK CHURCHES FOR AI LITERACY INITIATIVE.

AS I INDICATED, UH, THROUGH CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION, UH, WE WILL BE SUPPORTING BLACK CHURCH LEADERS AND PARENTS TO LEARN HOW TO FACILITATE YOUTH CREATING AI VOICE CHATBOTS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE, PROVIDING THEM A STIPEND AND SUPPORT TO DO THAT, AND WORKING WITH HOUSTON TILLISON STUDENTS TO ALSO BE MENTORS AND SUPPORT FOR UP TO 180 BLACK HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN AUSTIN AND CENTRAL TEXAS AREA TO LEARN HOW TO DESIGN AI, VOICE CHAT BOTS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, NSF SUPPORT WILL ALLOW FOR BLACK CHURCH AI LITERACY WORKSHOPS, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, TO WORK WITH PARENTS AND BLACK CHURCH LEADERS TO USE, LEARN HOW TO USE GENERATIVE AI TO PROVIDE, UM, ACCESS TO PERSONALIZED LEARNING THAT AS, AS I CAN'T REITERATE ENOUGH, SO MANY OF OUR UNDERSERVED KIDS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO AN K TO 12 EDUCATION.

SO I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR AI AND ALL OF ITS POSITIVE IMPACTS AND BENEFITS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE UNSERVED AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES UNDERSTAND THE RISKS AND HARMS POSED BY AI AND HOW, HOW TO NAVIGATE AND PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THOSE.

AND SO WE COULD USE SUPPORT WITH CORPORATE SPONSORS.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP US FUNDRAISE.

NEHEMIAH AND I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK ABOUT FINDING VOLUNTEER FUNDRAISERS, UH, BECAUSE IF THIS WORK IS TO CONTINUE, UH, IT ONLY CONTINUES WITH THE SUPPORT OF, OF, UH, ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, AND LIKE GOOGLE, LIKE AUSTIN COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, AND LIKE THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S GO PROGRAM, THERE'S A PHOTO OF ME AND THE 10 YOUNG LADIES WHO COMPLETED THE BLACK GIRLS IN AI CODING MAKERSPACE THIS PAST APRIL AT THE CARVER LIBRARY.

WE MET WHAT WE CALL THE AI VOICE CHAT BOTS FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE COMMUNITY SHOWCASE,

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WHERE THE THREE TEAMS OF STUDENTS PRESENTED THEIR PROJECTS ALONG WITH DEMONSTRATING THEIR AI, VOICE CHAT BOTS, THEIR PARENTS WERE IN THE ROOM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL AS, UH, SOME CORPORATE, UH, TECH CORPORATE PEOPLE WERE THERE AS WELL.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE.

IF, UH, YEAH, THAT'S IT.

WELL, DR.

ELIN, AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR LISTENING, AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THOSE AMAZING PRESENTATION.

DR.

ELIN, UM, THE COMMUNITY OF AUSTIN REALLY APPRECIATES THE WORK