Jul 15, 2024 Austin Integrated Water Resource Planning Community Task Force

UM, WHOOPS.

LEMME TURN MY AGENDA OVER.

CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, NOT NONE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP BEFOREHAND.

I HAVE ARICK IN MY NECK.

SO YOU ON THIS SIDE YOU'LL HAVE TO YELL.

TASK FORCE, WE NEED TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE, UM, JUNE 4TH MINUTES.

UM, AND THEN, OKAY, SO FOR THE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

IT'S IN YOUR PACKET ON PAGE TWO, THEY'LL TELL YOU THE MINUTES.

MOTION BY PAUL.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECOND FOR MADELINE.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ABSTAINING.

WHOOP, ABSTAINING.

GO AHEAD TODD.

I, I WAS JUST ABSTAINING 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK I ATTENDED THAT MEETING.

OH YEAH, I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING EITHER.

OH YEAH.

I WAS THINKING IT WAS TOO MANY.

HANEY.

HI.

IN REAL LIFE.

IN REAL LIFE, WELCOME.

I'M TOTALLY DISCOMBOBULATED.

HANEY IS HERE TOO.

AND VANESSA HAS JOINED.

OKAY, WE'RE APPROVING.

LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO IT NOW.

'CAUSE IT'S, TODD AND I ARE ABSTAINING, BUT WE ARE ENTERTAINING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AND WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHO WASN'T THERE AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH I THINK WAS TODD AND I BASICALLY.

UM, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UM, A MOTION FROM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? I.

WELL WAIT, I'M NOT VOTING.

IT REALLY IS.

OH MY GOODNESS.

UM, UH, ANY OPPOSED? ABSTAINING? TODD AND I ARE ABSTAINING 'CAUSE WE WERE NOT AT THE LAST MEETING.

ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL, WE CAN DO THIS.

FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM IS, HEY, YOU HAVE A PACKET AND EVERYTHING.

SO OUR

[2. Update on Lower Colorado River and Highland Lakes water supply conditions]

UM, OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM IS UPDATE ON THE COLORADO RIVER AND HIGHLAND LAKES WATER SUPPLY CONDITIONS.

AND FATIMA ON OUR TEAM WILL BE PROVIDING THAT UPDATE BEFORE WE, FOLKS THAT ARE ONLINE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE USING THE SYSTEM.

UM, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW.

RAISE YOUR HAND, PUT A NOTE IN THE CHAT OR SOMETHING.

BUT LET US KNOW.

THERE'S FIVE OF US HERE IN THE ROOM.

UM, I'M FATIMA WAHE WITH AUSTIN WATER ON THE SYSTEMS PLANNING TEAM.

AND THIS IS THE UPDATE ON THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AND HIGHLAND LAKES WATER SUPPLY CONDITIONS.

IS, UH, PRETTY NORMAL WITH WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE HIGHLAND LAKES INFLOWS.

THE PURPLE BARS ARE THIS YEAR'S INFLOWS, SO JANUARY THROUGH APRIL.

PRETTY LOW INFLOWS LOWER THAN, SOME OF THEM WERE LOWER THAN LAST YEAR, LIKE APRIL.

UM, ALL OF THEM WERE LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE OF 1942 TO PRESENT.

AND 2008 TO 2015 LOW.

UM, MAY WE SAW REALLY HIGH INFLOWS.

UM, JUNE WERE HIGHER THAN AVERAGE, BUT STILL, UH, UM, LOWER THAN THE, UM, LIKE 1942 TO PRESENT AVERAGE.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE MAY WAS LIKE A REALLY WET MONTH.

AND JUNE

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UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS LAKE BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS COMBINED STORAGE.

UM, IT WAS PRETTY STEADY.

THE PERCENTAGE OF FULL WAS PRETTY STEADY FROM JANUARY TO APRIL AT ABOUT 42% MAY BUMPED UP.

I THINK THE PEAK WAS ABOUT 56%.

AND THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE TALKING IN THE ROOM, BUT I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING ONLINE.

VANESSA.

VANESSA, YOU CAN'T HEAR US AT ALL.

HOW ABOUT YOU TODD? AND BILL, CAN YOU HEAR US? I CAN HEAR FINE.

YEAH, I HEAR FINE.

ALSO, TODD AND BILL, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR CAMERAS ON TO BE COUNTER PRESENT.

YEP.

JUST HAD TO RUN TO THE RESTROOM.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WELL, I WILL ALLOW THAT.

UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT VANESSA'S IN 'CAUSE THE OTHER TWO ARE WORKING.

HEATHER, I CAN HEAR IT.

I CAN HEAR NOW.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

OH, I FIXED IT.

WERE Y'ALL TALKING? DID I MISS ANYTHING? WE STARTED, SORRY, WE STARTED THE HU THE HIGHLAND LAKES, UH, THE WATER.

I SAW THE SLIDES MOVING AND I WAS LIKE, I THINK THEY'RE TALKING .

WE'RE DOING THE, THE, THE CURRENT CONDITION.

SO WE'RE ON THE HIGHLAND LAKE LEVEL SLIDE.

UM, IT RAINED A LOT IN MAY AND LESS IN JUNE.

JUST WANNA CHECK.

CAN YOU HEAR ME WHEN I TALK TOO? OKAY.

UM, SO CURRENTLY OUR COMBINED STORAGE IS AT ABOUT 1.08 MILLION ACRE FEET, A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN MAY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, THIS SLIDE IS FROM THE US DROUGHT MONITOR.

SO TRAVIS COUNTY IS THE BOLD OUTLINE ONE KIND OF IN THE CENTER.

AND THE DROUGHT MONITOR PREDICTS THAT FOR THIS MONTH, TRAVIS COUNTY RANGES IN CONDITIONS FROM NONE TO ABNORMALLY DRY.

UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS NOAH'S THREE MONTH OUTLOOK FROM AUGUST TO OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

UH, THE SEASONAL TEMPERATURE OUTLOOK, IT'S LOOKING TO BE 50 TO 60% CHANCE THAT THE TEMPERATURES ARE GONNA BE LIKELY ABOVE AVERAGE.

SO IT'S GONNA BE HOT, IT'S CONTINUE TO BE HOT.

UM, AND THEN THE PRECIPITATION OUTLOOK IS LOOKING TO BE EQUAL CHANCES, THE SAME PRECIPITATION THAT WE WOULD EXPECT.

THIS IS NOAH'S EL NINO SOUTHERN OSCILLATION FORECAST.

SO ENZO NEUTRAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, AND LA NINA IS NOW FAVORED TO EMERGE DURING, UM, AUGUST TO SEPTEMBER.

THERE'S A 70% CHANCE, UM, AND THEN A 79% CHANCE OF IT EMERGING NOVEMBER THROUGH JANUARY.

AND IF IT DOES EMERGE AUGUST TO SEPTEMBER, THEN IT WILL PERSIST INTO THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE THROUGH WINTER.

SORRY, I KEEP FORGETTING TO SAY THAT, UM, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE, UM, CRA'S COMBINED STORAGE PROJECTION, UM, THROUGH JANUARY, 2025.

SO THE DOTTED GREEN LINE AND THE DOTTED BLUE LINE IS WHERE WE'VE BEEN TRACKING FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

UM, MAY, WE DID SEE A JUMP UP JUST BECAUSE IT WAS A PRETTY HEAVY RAIN MONTH, BUT WE'RE STILL TRACKING ALONG THAT DOTTED GREEN LINE IN THE DOTTED BLUE LINE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE.

OUR CURRENT STORAGE IS, IT'S PRETTY MUCH AT THAT SAME HEIGHT ON THE GRAPH AT 1.08 ACRE FEET.

IT'S JUST MOVED OVER A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY NOW, UM, AS OF TODAY.

UM, AND THIS, THIS SLIDE ALSO SHOWS THE L CS DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN STAGE.

AND THEN ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S DROUGHT CONTINGENT DROUGHT, DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN STAGES.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN DCP STAGE TWO.

OH, SO MY QUESTION'S JUST ON THE, UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE FOR NEXT TIME OR FUTURE MEETINGS.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? I HAVE A QUESTION.

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SO ON THE GREEN SLIDE, IT LOOKED, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ON THE GREEN DOTTED LINE ON THE LAST SLIDE, IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE WOULD BE SORT OF SQUEAKING IN ABOVE STAGE ONE.

IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS? OR IN ABOVE STAGE TWO? SO THAT'S IF WE, YES, IF WE HAVE WET CONDITIONS AND IT WOULD, WE WOULD BE ABOVE CRA'S, UM, DCP STAGE ONE.

SO THAT'S THEIR EXIT CONDITION.

THAT PURPLE, THAT TOP PURPLE LINE, RIGHT? SORRY.

BUT COA, UM, CITY OF AUSTIN, AUSTIN WATER WE'RE OUR, OUR, UH, EXIT STAGE IS 1.4 MILLION ACRE FEET.

SO WE'RE STILL BELOW OUR STAGE ONE.

RIGHT.

I GUESS THE THING I WAS GONNA ASK, EXCUSE ME.

UM, JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION TO EXIT STAGE TWO THAT WE'RE IN NOW.

THE, UM, THE EXIT CRITERIA FOR THAT, UH, THERESA LUTS, UM, AUSTIN WATER, UH, EXIT CRITERIA FOR STAGE TWO FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN PLAN IS, UH, TO BE PROJECTED TO BE ABOVE 900,000 ACRE FEET FOR AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS.

SO JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

THE, THE 900,000 ACRE FOOT LINE IS THAT LOWER PURPLE LINE OF LCRA THAT, UH, LCRA HAS SHOWN.

AND WE POINT TO, UM, FOR STAGE TWO, THAT'S THE TRIGGERING, UM, LEVEL.

AND WE, WE WENT BELOW 900,000 ACRE FEET.

UH, AND WHEN WE WERE BELOW THAT, WE TRIGGERED INTO STAGE TWO MM-HMM.

BUT WE WOULDN'T COME OUT OF IT, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ABOVE THE STAGE TWO TRIGGER.

WE WOULDN'T COME OUT OF IT UNTIL WE'RE PREDICTED OR PROJECTED WITH THESE LINES.

EVEN THE LOWEST LINE IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

UH, WE WOULDN'T BE COMING OUT OF STAGE TWO UNTIL THAT, WE WOULD BE OUT OF THAT FOR AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS ABOVE 900,000 ACRE FEET.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO JUST MAKING SURE I'M FOLLOWING, IT SAYS THAT IN, I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE MAY, IT WENT ABOVE 900,000 AND SO MAY, JUNE, JULY IS THREE MONTHS.

RIGHT? THAT, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S THE PROJECTION FROM WHERE, WHERE WE ARE.

SO RIGHT NOW THE PROJECTION IS THAT WITHIN THE, THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, IT COULD BE THAT WE WERE, WOULD BE GOING ABOVE, UM, I MEAN THAT WE WOULD, UH, POTENTIALLY BE BELOW 900.

AND, AND IN MAY WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE JUNE PROJECTION OF LCS, IT WAS GONNA BE AT LEAST, UH, OR THE, UH, THE PROJECTION FOR GOING BELOW 900,000 WAS, UH, THAT IT COULD GO BELOW 900,000 WITHIN THREE MONTHS THEN TOO.

SO WE, WE LOOK AT IT MONTHLY WHEN THEY, UM, RELEASE THEIR PROJECTIONS, UH, WHEN THEY COME OUT TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, FATIMA, THANK YOU.

LEMME GET BACK TO MY AGENDA HERE.

THREE IS UPDATE ON THE REFINED WA UH, WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGY ASSESSMENT AND VULNERABILITY EVALUATION RESULTS AND 50 YEAR PORTFOLIOS.

SO OUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[3. Update on refined Water management strategy Assessment and Vulnerability Evaluation (WAVE) results and 50-year portfolios]

SO, UM, THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE MADE BY HELEN GERLACH ON THE WATER RESOURCES TEAM IN HER SECOND TO LAST TASK FORCE MEETING APPEARANCE.

WHAT? YEAH.

HELLO.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? YEP.

UM, YES, THIS WILL BE MY SECOND TO LAST PENULTIMATE TASK FORCE MEETING UNLESS YOU GUYS SCHEDULE MORE.

SO ULTIMATE.

OH MAN.

WELL, WE'LL DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER.

UM, BUT GLAD WE HAVE YOU FOR TWO MORE TASK FORCE MEETINGS.

WELL, UM, AND THEN TODAY AS MARISA MENTIONED, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, WAVE RESULTS, KIND OF COMBINING ALL OF THAT INTO ONE ACRONYM.

UM, AND I'LL BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE OUR, UM, CONSULTANT RAND, UM, IS JOINING VIRTUALLY AS WELL.

AND SO WE'VE GOT, UM, ROB LEMERT QUEUED UP FOR, UH, QUESTIONS AS WELL IF WE WANNA DIG INTO ANY OF THE RESULTS IN MORE DETAIL.

UM, LOOKS LIKE THE SLIDES WENT AWAY.

OH, GOTCHA.

SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A PROCESS SLIDE TO ORIENT EVERYBODY TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

COULD WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE?

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SO TODAY'S RESULTS, UM, WE GOT IT AT THE TOP THERE.

STEP ONE, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, UM, RESULTS FOR 2080.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS, UH, CREATED A BUNCH OF CANDIDATE PORTFOLIOS, UM, THAT WE EVALUATED AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IN OTHER SLIDES.

ALL OF THOSE WERE DONE FOR 2080.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL OF THOSE FOR FURTHER, UM, ANALYSIS.

AND SO FOR THOSE IDENTIFIED ONES, THE SECOND STEP THEN WILL BE TO, UM, FIGURE OUT WHAT PATHWAY WE WANNA TAKE TO KIND OF ACHIEVE THAT 2080 YIELD.

SO FROM 2030 TO 2070, HOW DO WE WANNA BUILD UP AND LAYER THESE STRATEGIES? UM, ONCE WE DEVELOP THOSE, UH, PATHWAYS TO GET FROM 2030 TO 2070, THAT'LL KIND OF COME ALL TOGETHER IN A 50 YEAR PORTFOLIO WITH ALL THE DECADES BETWEEN 2030 AND 2080.

AND, UM, THAT'LL ALSO BE KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE SAME WAVE ANALYSIS AS WELL.

WE'LL THEN USE THE MULTI-CRITERIA DECISION MAKING ANALYSIS, UM, TO SELECT THE RECOMMENDED PORTFOLIO FOR WATER FORWARD.

SO THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT KIND OF MORE, UM, THE, UH, DEEPER ANALYSIS THAT INCORPORATES SOME OF THOSE LESS QUANTITATIVE ASPECTS, UH, BASED ON THE OBJECTIVES AND MEASURES THAT, UH, THIS TASK FORCE HAD DEVELOPED EARLIER IN THE PROCESS.

AND BASED UPON THAT ANALYSIS RESULT, THERE'LL BE ONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR WATER FORWARD.

AND THEN THAT ONE PORTFOLIO WILL MOVE FORWARD IN STEP THREE TO DEVELOP AN ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN.

AND THAT ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS WHAT CARRIES US FROM 2080 TO 2120 AT THE END OF THE, UM, PLANNING HORIZON.

AND SO AGAIN, TODAY JUST LOOKING AT 2080 RESULTS.

AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT STEP WILL BE KIND OF BUILDING OUT THE 2030 TO 2070.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND, UH, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THESE, UH, 'CAUSE NEXT, UH, TASK FORCE MEETING IN AUGUST, WE'LL BE COMING BACK AND KIND OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THE RESULTS.

BUT THESE ARE THE OBJECTIVES AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WE'LL BE USING FOR THE MULTI-CRITERIA DECISION ANALYSIS.

AND SO THESE WERE DEVELOPED WITH TASK FORCE INPUT, UM, EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, PROBABLY ALMOST A YEAR AGO NOW.

UM, AND COME SOME OF THE KEY OBJECTIVES WERE TO, UM, AVOID SEVERE WATER SHORTAGES, FOCUS ON WATER CONSERVATION, MINIMIZE IMPACTS, UM, DEVELOP STRATEGIES THAT CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, DEVELOP STRATEGIES THAT HAVE A MANAGEABLE LEVEL OF RISK AND STRATEGIES THAT USE LOCALLY CONTROLLED, UM, WATER RESOURCES.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON PERFORMANCE MEASURES TO, UH, NUMERICALLY CAPTURE THOSE DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES.

AND WE'LL BE APPLYING THOSE TO THOSE, UH, PORTFOLIOS IN THE NEXT STEP AS JUST DISCUSSED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO FOR TODAY'S MAIN TOPIC, WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ARE THESE CANDIDATE PORTFOLIOS.

AND HOW WE CREATED THESE CANDIDATE PORTFOLIOS FOR 2080 WAS, UH, MIXING AND MATCHING ALL THESE DIFFERENT WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES SHOWN ON THE SCREEN TO DEVELOP, UH, ALMOST 2 MILLION DIFFERENT PORTFOLIO OPTIONS JUST FOR THAT 2080 TIME PERIOD.

AND SO IT LOOKS AT THESE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND THEN DIFFERENT, UH, LEVELS OF YIELDS FROM ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.

AND SO WE SHOW HERE THE SUPPLY STRATEGIES ON THE TOP AND THE DARKER GRAY, AND THEN THE DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES ON THE BOTTOM AND THE LIGHTER GRAY.

AND THE WAY THAT THE DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES ARE INCORPORATED, THIS GO ROUND IS THROUGH, UM, DEMAND REDUCTION PATHWAYS.

UM, AND SO THE SEVEN DIFFERENT DEMAND REDUCTION PATHWAYS ARE SHOWN THERE.

EACH ONE OF THE PATHWAYS CONTAINS ALL THE DIFFERENT DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, UM, AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

AND THEY'RE INCORPORATED THIS WAY SO THAT WE COULD USE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE DISAGGREGATED DEMAND MODEL TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T DOUBLE COUNTING ANY OF THE YIELD FROM THOSE STRATEGIES.

ASK YOUR QUESTION PLEASE.

THIS IS IN THE AREA WHERE I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT, UM, THESE ARE STRATEGIES AND YOU'RE CREATING 2 MILLION COMBINATIONS, WHICH SEEMS LIKE AN AWFULLY HIGH NUMBER BASED ON THIS MANY STRATEGIES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, THIS IS LIKE 15 OR 20 18, 18.

UM, IS IT ? LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT MATH, BUT, UM, SO, SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, I GUESS IT'S LIKE STARTING 'EM AT DIFFERENT TIMES, DIFFERENT DELIVERY, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY'VE, AS, AS WEATHER FACTOR, LIKE HOW DO YOU GET TO 2 MILLION MM-HMM.

FROM THIS.

AND, AND ALSO I WAS JUST TELLING MARISA THE OTHER DAY THAT WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON ALL THIS, AND I THINK I JUST JUMPED RIGHT INTO IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GO FROM 18 TO 2 MILLION.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW, REALLY.

BACKUP THAT WAS SENT OUT, WE HAVE THE MODELING CHARACTERIZATION.

CONCEPTUALLY, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, ? YEAH.

GREAT.

GREAT QUESTION.

SO FOR EACH ONE OF THESE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, AND I THINK THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE

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AND SO IN THAT MODELING CHARACTERIZATION AND FOR EACH OF THE STRATEGIES, WE'VE IDENTIFIED A MAXIMUM AND A MINIMUM FOR THE ANNUAL YIELD IN 2080.

SO IN ADDITION TO SAYING, HEY, YOU CAN HAVE AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY AND BRACKISH GROUNDWATER, IT'S ALSO SELECTING A YIELD OF THAT STRATEGY, UM, BETWEEN A CERTAIN RANGE.

AND THEN FOR OPTIONS THAT HAVE STORAGE, IT'S ALSO SELECTING THE STORAGE.

SO YOU START GETTING LOTS AND LOTS OF COMBINATIONS PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE, UM, EACH ONE OF THESE CAN BE ON AND OFF IN ALL DIFFERENT WAYS, WHICH GETS YOU UP TO PRETTY HIGH NUMBER.

AND THEN EACH ONE CAN ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AN INFINITE, UH, DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF YIELD.

IS THERE LIKE YEAR OF IMPLEMENTATION COULD BE ANOTHER FACTOR TOO.

WE WILL HAVE THAT, THIS IS JUST FOR 2080 BECAUSE WE HAD TO, WE WERE RUNNING UP AGAINST, UH, COMPUTING LIMITS.

IT TOOK, TAKES LIKE TWO DAYS TO RUN THE ANALYSIS FOR THE, UM, OH BOY, THE 2 MILLION OPTIONS.

AND SO IF WE KIND OF RAN IT, EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE, IT WOULD BE, UH, WOULD'VE JUST TAKEN TOO MUCH TIME.

SO JUST THE A YEAR OF IMPLEMENTATION WILL KIND OF BE THE NEXT STEP.

THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT THAT 2080 DECADE, I THINK SOME WEIGHTS FELL IN THE EXERCISE ROOM IS OH, OKAY.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE WAS JUST, OKAY, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL GOOD ENOUGH.

IT'S A JUMPY TIME.

TODD.

YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS BACK WE DEVELOPED A FULL PLAN DOING A DIFFERENT SET OF ANALYSES ON ALL OF THESE TACTICS.

UM, IS THIS, UM, KIND OF A COMPLETE, I REALIZE THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS WE'RE GONNA UPDATE THE PLAN.

IS THIS KIND OF A, WOULD YOU SEE THIS AS AN UPDATE OR A COMPLETE REDO OF THE PLAN? HOW MUCH OF THE PREVIOUS WORK HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING THIS TIME? I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY AN UPDATE AND WE BUILT A LOT ON THE PREVIOUS WORK.

UM, ALL OF THE STRATEGY CHARACTERIZATIONS, SO LIKE THE WAY THAT WE SELECT STRATEGIES ARE BASED ON WHAT WE THINK THEY CAN YIELD AND WHAT WE THINK THEY CAN COST.

AND MUCH OF THAT WAS BASED ON THE WORK.

UM, THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUS, EXCUSE ME, PREVIOUSLY, THE SELECTION OF THE STRATEGIES.

YOU KNOW, THE STUFF THAT'S EVEN ON THIS LIST IS LARGELY BASED ON THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN WATER 40 18.

UM, AND THEN THE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT, UH, WHAT WOULD BE, UH, KIND OF A BASELINE STRATEGY IS ALSO BUILT INTO WATER FORWARD 18.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED, LIKE A MI AND EXPANSION OF THE RECLAIM SYSTEM AND WORKING ON A SR, UH, THAT KIND OF STUFF IS SORT OF ALL BUILT INTO HOW WE, UH, DID THE SELECTION OF THESE DIFFERENT, UM, STRATEGIES WHEN IDENTIFYING THESE CANDIDATE PORTFOLIOS.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL SHOW, SO I HEARD ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, I GET, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS WHY RUN 2 MILLION DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? AND, UM, IN THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF STRATEGIES YOU BRING ONLINE AND THE TYPE OF STRATEGIES YOU BRING ONLINE AND WHEN AND TO WHAT MAGNITUDE.

YOU CAN BE SPENDING DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO GET DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PERFORMANCE.

SO YOU SPEND MORE AND YOU GET BETTER PERFORMANCE.

UM, AND IT DEPENDS ON ALSO KIND OF OUR ANALYSIS OF THE OTHER EVALUATION CRITERIA AS WELL, TO MAKE A SELECTION OF WHAT LEVEL OF RELIABILITY WE'RE WANTING TO GET OUT OF OUR FEATURE, UM, WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGY PORTFOLIO.

UM, FOR WHAT COST OR WHAT RISK.

, WE CAN PROBABLY GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

EVALUATE THEM USING THE DEEPER MULTI-CRITERIA ANALYSIS TO DECIDE WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, UM, TO RECOMMEND AS THE WATER FORWARD PORTFOLIO.

SO THIS KIND OF ILLUSTRATES WHAT MARISA WAS SAYING.

SO WE TOOK THOSE 2 MILLION DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS AND DEVELOPED COST AND PERFORMANCE SCORES, AGAIN, ALL FOR THE 2080, UH, HORIZON.

AND THAT'S SHOWN HERE.

AND FOR CO COST IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

AND THEN WHEN WE SAY PERFORMANCE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS RELIABILITY, RESILIENCY, AND VULNERABILITY, UM, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE TASK FORCE BEFORE.

BUT IN GENERAL, YOU CAN SORT OF THINK OF RELIABILITY AS A MEASURE OF HOW OFTEN THERE'S A SHORTAGE, WHAT THE FREQUENCY IS RESILIENCY WOULD BE, HOW LONG YOU'RE IN THAT SHORTAGE PERIOD.

AND VULNERABILITY IS HOW, UM, DEEP THE SHORTAGE IS.

WHAT'S THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT? AND WE'RE SHOWING IT HERE AS AN AVERAGE PERFORMANCE SCORE.

UM, JUST 'CAUSE SHOWING A FOUR DIMENSIONAL PLOT ON A SLIDE IS KIND OF DIFFICULT.

BUT YOU CAN SEE GENERALLY THAT, UH, IT LOGICALLY FOLLOWS THAT AS YOU START INCREASING YOUR COST SCORE, YOUR PERFORMANCE SCORE ALSO GOES UP SO YOU CAN IMPROVE YOUR PERFORMANCE, BUT IT DOES COME AT A COST.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY GIVEN COST, WHAT PORTFOLIO GETS YOU THE BEST PERFORMANCE, AND PICK, UH, SEVERAL OPTIONS KIND OF ALONG THAT CURVE AS YOU KNOW, THE BEST PERFORMANCE YOU CAN GET FOR THAT COST.

AND THEN

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SORRY, I COULD, A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.

, JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN WE SAY SHORTAGE, DO WE MEAN AN ACTUAL, LIKE THERE ISN'T ENOUGH SUPPLY TO MEET THE DEMAND THAT A LITERAL SHORTAGE OF WATER? SORRY, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE PLEASE? SO FOR THE RELIABILITY AND VULNERABILITY, THE WAY THAT WE MEASURE THOSE IN THE MODELING IS AN ACTUAL SHORTAGE, LIKE THE LAKES GO EMPTY AND THERE'S NO WATER AVAILABLE TO MEET DEMANDS.

THE RESILIENCY IS, UM, WHEN WE'RE MEASURING DURATION IS A MEASURE OF HOW LONG WE WOULD ANTICIPATE BEING IN STAGE NOW FIVE DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS.

AND, UM, ALSO JUST ADD KIND OF FROM AN EARLIER DISCUSSION, WE'VE HAD THESE, UH, HYDROLOGY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE INTENTIONALLY CHOSEN TO STRESS TEST THE SYSTEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF SEVERE DROUGHTS.

UM, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY EXPECT THIS TO BE LIKE THE BASE CASE SCENARIO, UM, RIGHT, I WOULD HOPE NOT.

BUT THEY, THESE ARE SELECTED TO BE DROUGHTS WORSE THAN THE DROUGHT OF RECORD TO BE WORSE THAN THE HISTORICAL DROUGHT.

BUT WE ARE EXPECTING IN THE FUTURE TO SEE DROUGHTS WORSE THAN THE DROUGHT OF RECORD, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS PLAN AND INCORPORATING CLIMATE CHANGE AND OTHER POTENTIAL FUTURES.

THANKS, .

SO THIS KIND OF GETS TO WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE.

SO THOSE DARK BLUE DOTS ARE THE OPTIMAL PORTFOLIOS.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE, FOR A GIVEN COST, THAT'S THE BEST PERFORMANCE YOU CAN GET AND YOU WOULD EXPECT THOSE TO BE SORT OF ON THE OUTER EDGE OF THAT LINE.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SCATTER, JUST AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE AVERAGING THE PERFORMANCE SCORE.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY BEING OPTIMIZED KIND OF IN THREE DIMENSIONS AGAINST THOSE THREE RELIABILITY, RESILIENCY, AND VULNERABILITY.

BUT WHEN YOU CAN PRESS IT DOWN TO A 2D PLOT, YOU JUST GET A LITTLE BIT OF FUZZINESS AT THE EDGES.

AND SO THE, UM, MINIMUM AND THE MAX ARE SHOWN THERE IN ORANGE JUST FOR REFERENCE.

AND SO, UM, KIND OF, UH, GETTING TO THAT QUESTION.

SO THE MINIMUM WOULD BE IF WE DID NOTHING EXCEPT FOR DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AND HAD ALL OF THESE SEVERE HYDROLOGY, YOUR PERFORMANCE WOULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LIKE 76%.

UM, AND THEN AS YOU START BRINGING ON ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES, UM, AND THE MAGENTA DOTS, YOU START IMPROVING YOUR PERFORMANCE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MORE YOU SPEND, THE BETTER YOUR PERFORMANCE GETS AND YOU KIND OF JUST HAVE TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TRADE OFF IS MOST APPROPRIATE.

AND SO WE'VE SELECTED 10 OF THOSE MAGENTA DOTS, UM, THAT SPAN KIND OF A RANGE OF THE COST AND PERFORMANCE, UM, AS RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO DEVELOP FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS.

AND, UM, AGAIN, THAT NEXT STEP, THIS IS ALL FOR 2080 AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THEN BUILDING UP THE 2030 TO 2070 AND THEN RUNNING THIS SIMILAR ANALYSIS ON THE DIFFERENT PATHWAY OPTIONS TO BUILD UP TO THIS 2080 YIELD AND MAKING SURE WE'RE CHOOSING KIND OF THE OPTIMAL, UM, PATHWAYS FOR 2030 TO 2070 AS WELL.

VANESSA, UM, YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT I FEEL LIKE I NEED IT EXPLAINED AGAIN IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, 'CAUSE I MISSED IT.

BUT WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COST AND PERFORMANCE? SO WE DON'T, THERE'S NO DEFINED RELATIONSHIP, BUT GENERALLY AS TO INCREASE YOUR PERFORMANCE, YOU HAVE TO START BRINGING ON ADDITIONAL WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, LIKE FROM THAT LIST WE JUST LOOKED AT.

AND AS YOU BRING ON ADDITIONAL WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, THAT INCREASES YOUR COST.

UM, AND SO WE CALCULATE THE COST BASICALLY AS THE CAPITAL COST PLUS THE O AND M.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE A NEW WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGY COMING IN, THAT YOU GET A KINDA LUMP SUM ADDITION OF THE CAPITAL COST AND THEN IT INCREASES YOUR O AND M COST OVER THE, UM, THE LENGTH OF THE MODELING.

UH, DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY LOOKING AT LIKE INDIVIDUAL, LIKE IT'S NOT COMPARING OR IS IT COSTS OF INDIVIDUAL STRATEGIES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER? IT'S MORE JUST AGAINST HOW THEY AFFECT OUR, THE PERFORMANCE.

I HAVE A QUESTION TOO.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, THEN, UM, IF WE DON'T SPEND ANY MONEY, WE CAN ACTUALLY GET STILL 75% OR MORE OF BASICALLY MITIGATING SHORTAGES.

LIKE WE ALL, ALL THIS RELIABILITY, RESILIENCY AND VULNERABILITY, UM, WE GET THAT THROUGH NOTHING FOR MM-HMM, .

SO EVEN THE MINIMUM PORTFOLIO DOES INCLUDE,

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SO IT'S NOT AS, IT'S ZERO COST ON THIS ACCESS JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE, THE MINIMUM IT'S SCALED.

BUT, UM, AND THEN WHEN WE SAY 75%, IT'S, I GUESS THAT'S SORT OF, I WOULD LOOK AT IT KIND OF THE OTHER WAY WHERE IT WOULD BE 25% OF THE TIME YOU'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE NO WATER.

SO IT'S LESS BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE SHORTAGE? YEAH, BECAUSE THE SHORTAGE IS DEFINED AS SUCH A SEVERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING LIKE, THIS IS TRULY WHEN THERE IS A SHORTAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, 75% THAT'S LIKE NOT SO BAD, IT'S A CC MINUS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THAT A QUARTER OF THE TIME YOU'D BE IN AN EXTREMELY DIRE SITUATION.

SO YES, IT'S TRUE.

THAT'S WHAT THAT'S SHOWING.

UM, IT'S JUST MAYBE NOT AS ROSY, I GUESS AS THE, THE NUMBERS MAY INITIALLY LOOK.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

AND SO THESE ARE THE MAGENTA DOTS.

SO THE MINIMUM AND MAX ARE KIND OF GRAYED OUT JUST TO HELP, UM, CLARIFY THEY'RE THERE FOR REFERENCE.

SO THAT MINIMUM, UH, AS I WAS MENTIONING IS ALL THE DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, UM, AND KIND OF THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF A SR AS A BASELINE AND THEN NO ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES.

AND THEN THE MAXIMUM IS BASICALLY SPEND AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU CAN GET THE HIGHEST, HIGHEST PERFORMANCE.

AND THEN ONE THROUGH 10 ARE THE, UH, KIND OF DOTS IN BETWEEN THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED TO REPRESENT SORT OF A RANGE OF THOSE OPTIONS.

AND THESE, I'M JUST GONNA HOP IN HERE AND SAY ONE MORE TIME.

THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY PORTFOLIOS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING.

THESE ARE PORTFOLIOS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE EVALUATING AS PART OF OUR TRADE OFF ANALYSIS USING THE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOKED AT IN AN EARLIER SLIDE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO SAY.

THESE ARE NOT RECOMMENDED PORTFOLIOS WITHIN WATERFORD.

THIS IS, THESE ARE PORTFOLIOS FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS.

MM-HMM, .

SO, SORRY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STEP 3M CDM ANALYSIS.

MM-HMM, .

WHAT DOES MCDM MEAN? MULTI-CRITERIA DECISION MAKING.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE THE AND WHAT ARE THE, HOW DID THE CRITERIA, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT IS THAT, WHAT CRITERIA DOES THAT REFER TO? UM, IT'S THE OBJECTIVES AND MEASURES THAT ARE ON SLIDE THREE, I THINK.

AND THEY WERE DEVELOPED WITH TASK FORCE INPUT EARLIER, UM, IN THE PROCESS.

SO THOSE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE BASED OFF OF KIND OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES WITH ASSOCIATED PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, SOME OF WHICH ARE QUALITATIVE, SOME QUANTITATIVE.

I SEE.

THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY.

THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT MY QUESTION WAS IS WHEN WE GET TO THAT STAGE, SO THIS, LEMME JUST FOR ONE SECOND, SORRY.

SIDE TWO IS PRETTY HELPFUL, BUT I FEEL LIKE IF THERE WAS LIKE, AND BECAUSE IT SAYS LIKE TODAY, LIKE IF EVERY TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THERE WAS SORT OF LIKE A WHOLE TIMELINE THAT WAS LIKE, YOU ARE HERE SO THAT WE CAN JUST SEE THE PROCESS.

'CAUSE EVEN THIS IS LIKE STEP ONE, STEP TWO, STEP THREE.

I, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

'CAUSE IT IS REALLY HARD TO KEEP IN YOUR HEAD ALL OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER TIME.

I'M HELEN IS SMILING BECAUSE I TOOK THAT SLIDE OUT, UM, OR, BUT BECAUSE WE WE'RE TRYING TO SHORTEN SLIDES AND SHORTEN PRESENTATION, WHICH YOU THINK I, I KNOW EVERY DAY I LEARN.

WELL, WHAT'S HELPFUL IS IF THE GRAPHIC LOOKS THE SAME EVERY TIME, UHHUH, , THEN IT'S LIKE, OKAY, YEAH.

I AM DONE THAN YOU THINK.

NO, I, I NEED THE TI THE TIMELINE.

THANK IF HAVING KIDS HAS TAUGHT ME ONE THING, IT'S EVERY DAY.

I'M NOT AS SMART AS THE DAY BEFORE .

WE'RE ALL SMART.

JUST, YEAH.

LIKE I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, THE MULTI-CRITERIA, BUT OKAY.

MCDM GOT IT.

FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

WELL, I, I WILL SAY THAT IT'S A BALANCE BETWEEN, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS ON THE TASK FORCE THAT, UM, WE'RE GETTING REAL IN THE WEEDS DESCRIBING LIKE THE WAVE MODEL AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH TIME TO KIND OF DISCUSS THE RESULTS.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS GONNA SAY SUBSTANCE, THIS IS ALL REALLY SUB REALLY SUBSTANTIVE STUFF.

SO WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS WITH ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE A COMPLETED PLANS SITTING AT THE DIOCESE WITH CITY COUNCIL AND ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO COVER.

UM, AND KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TWO HOUR MEETINGS LIKE ONCE A MONTH.

SO, UM, AND, AND, UM, AND IF WE NEED TO DIG IN TO SOME OF THE KIND OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON SOME OF THIS AT OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS, THEN FLAG IT AND WE'LL DO IT.

BUT OKAY.

IN THE FUTURE WE MIGHT, SO WE'VE INCLUDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF MATERIAL IN YOUR, IN THE BACKUP THAT WE'RE NOT PRESENTING TODAY.

UM, IN THE FUTURE WE MAY JUST INCLUDE MORE SLIDES IN BACKUP THAT DON'T GET PRESENTED, BUT JUST

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SO CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT AN EXAMPLE? YEAH, PLEASE.

SO MCDM WOULD INCLUDE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW SEAWATER DESALINATION RATES IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING STRATEGIES THAT CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.

MM-HMM, .

SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT, UM, I THINK WE MIGHT'VE SAID ON THERE, THE PERFORMANCE OPERATIONAL ENERGY USE IS AN EXAMPLE PERFORMANCE MEASURE.

EXACTLY.

SO SEAWATER DECEL WOULD PRESUMABLY HAVE A MUCH HIGHER ENERGY USE THAN MANY OF THE OTHER STRATEGIES.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES WERE, UH, NET RETURN FLOWS AND WATER QUALITY IMPACTS FOR THAT, UM, THAT PERFORMANCE.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING THE WAY THIS WOULD PLAY OUT.

AND JUST KIND OF HEAD TO SORT OF CALL OUTS TO POINT OUT HERE.

SO, UM, ALL OF THE, YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED ALL THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME FOR THE DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES FOR ONE THROUGH 10, ALL OF THE PORTFOLIOS, UM, FOR THE 2080 TIME HORIZON CONTAIN THE MOST ROBUST SCENARIO OPTION FOR DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, WHICH INCLUDE EXPANSION OF THE RECLAIMED SYSTEM ONSITE, UM, AND RECLAIMED ORDINANCES AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES.

UM, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE IT JUST ENDED IT, UH, CONSISTENTLY IMPROVED PORTFOLIO PERFORMANCE KIND OF ACROSS ALL OF THE HORIZONS.

UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, UH, THE HIGHER THOSE YIELDS WERE THE CLOSE YOU COULD STAY UNDER, UM, OUR EXISTING CONTRACT AMOUNT.

AND SO THOSE WERE JUST KIND OF VERY FAVORABLE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ALL IN THERE LOOKING IDENTICAL ON THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE HIGHER DEMAND MANAGEMENT, UH, STRATEGY SAVINGS, WE DON'T GO ABOVE OUR EXISTING CONTRACT AMOUNT.

AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A ZERO FOR THE NEW LCRA SUPPLY, UM, ALL FOR 2080 JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NO, UH, NEED FOR THAT WITH THE SAVINGS WE ACHIEVE FROM THE DEMAND MANAGEMENT.

UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THE ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN MOVING FORWARD AS THERE'S ADDITIONAL DEMAND OUT TO 2120.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE EXACT SAME PORTFOLIO PORTFOLIOS JUST SHOWN IN A COLORFUL BAR GRAPH FORMAT.

UM, AND WITH THE TOTAL MAX ANNUAL YIELD AS THE Y AXIS FOR THE BARS.

SO YOU CAN JUST KIND OF GET A COMPARATIVE EXAMPLE OF HOW, YOU KNOW, BRINGING ON ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES AND INCREASING THE YIELD GENERALLY INCREASES YOUR PERFORMANCE, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE DOTS, UM, AND ON THE OTHER Y AXIS.

AND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN STRATEGIES YOU MAYBE DON'T NEED AS MUCH YIELD, UM, FOR THE SAME INCREASE IN PERFORMANCE JUST BECAUSE THEY OPERATE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY OR, OR A NEW SOURCE OF SUPPLY.

HELEN, REMIND US, PERFORMANCE EQUALS SHOWN HERE.

IT'S THE AVERAGE OF THE RELIABILITY, RESILIENCY, AND VULNERABILITY SCORES FROM THE ANALYSIS.

DO FOLKS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ARE WE GOOD? YEP, WE CAN THE LAST SLIDE.

AND THIS IS THE, OH, WHOOPS, THERE BILL.

CATEGORIZED, UH, DIFFERENTLY BEFORE SINCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE USED FOR SORT OF BOTH PURPOSES.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION BILL? I THINK HE'S UNMUTING.

OH, YES.

UM, THE OTHER DAY AT OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT THE COST ESTIMATE FOR THE INDIRECT PORTABLE REUSE PROJECT, WHICH SINCE 2018 HAS ESCALATED FROM 35 MILLION TO 185 MILLION.

AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, ARE WE RECHECKING ALL THE COST ESTIMATES FOR ALL OF THE, UH, PROJECTS? AND DO YOU EXPECT THAT WE WILL BE SEEING A SIXFOLD INCREASE IN THE COSTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN 2018? WE ARE REEVALUATING ALL THE COSTS.

UM, AS WE UPDATE THE CHARACTERIZATIONS, UM, WE DID, AND THEY UPDATED COSTS ARE, WERE EMAILED OUT ON FRIDAY.

ALL OF THE CHARACTERIZATION SHEETS WITH ALL OF THE UNIFIED COSTING MODEL, UM, SHEETS ARE, WERE SENT IN A PDF FORMAT.

AND THEN I WOULD JUST ADD TOO, THAT THE 35, UH, MILLION DOLLARS ESTIMATE FOR IPR LAST TIME DIDN'T INCLUDE THE RECLAIMED LINES.

AND SO THIS TIME WE'VE KIND OF SORTED THE COST SO THAT THE RECLAIMED LINES ASSOCIATED WITH IPR ARE SHOWN WITH THAT PROJECT RATHER THAN INCLUDED IN THE CENTRALIZED RECURRING STRATEGY.

SO I THINK THE COSTS ACTUALLY PROBABLY AREN'T THAT DISSIMILAR.

UM, THEY'RE MAYBE JUST LIKE

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UM, I DIDN'T READ THE EMAIL ON FRIDAY, I'M SORRY.

NO WORRIES.

UM, BUT WHAT ARE WE SEEING IN TERMS OF COST INCREASES ACROSS THE BOARD ON THIS THING? I WOULD SAY THINGS ARE PROBABLY GENERALLY MORE EXPENSIVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF MARISA, YOU HAVE YEAH, I I MEAN GENERALLY YES.

ALL, ALL OF THE COSTS HAVE INCREASED.

UM, UH, I MEAN, WHAT I WAS HOPING TO GET WAS WHAT, WHAT'S THE MULTIPLIER WE'RE DEALING WITH? IS IT, IS IT AS RIDICULOUS? IS IT OUT OF CONTROL? WHAT IS IT? IT'S NOT SIX TIMES WHAT THE COSTS WE'RE IN 2018.

UM, OH, DID YOU? OKAY.

UH, I WOULD SAY ANYWHERE FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE, UH, SOME OF THE MORE RIDICULOUS ONES MIGHT BE A DOUBLING OF COSTS, UM, TWO TO THREE TIMES THE COST.

BUT OFTENTIMES THAT'S ALSO BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS, UM, THAT WE'RE INCLUDED IN THE COSTING ANALYSIS.

UM, THIS TIME AS VERSUS LAST TIME, THERE ARE ALSO SOME, SOME STRATEGIES, UM, AS R IS ONE OF THE STRATEGIES, I'LL JUST MENTION THAT WHERE WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF, UM, THE ACTUAL COST.

WHEREAS IN 2018 WE HAD HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTUAL COST FOR THE STRATEGY AND NOW WE'VE GOTTEN AN ENGINEER ON BOARD WHO'S DONE MORE DETAILED WORK, UM, AND HAS DEVELOPED A PROBABLY A MORE REALISTIC COST FOR THAT STRATEGY.

UM, THAT ONE HAS INCREASED QUITE A BIT.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT TWO TO THREE TIMES THE COST OF THE STRATEGY, UM, OF IN 2024 AS VERSUS 2018.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THE WORST OF IT WILL BE DOUBLING MAYBE SOME TRIPLING? YEP.

I'LL, I'LL ALSO JUST ADD TO THAT TOO, SINCE YOU GUYS RECEIVED THE MODELING CHARACTERIZATIONS, ALL OF THE COSTS WERE DONE FOR THE MAXIMUM 2120 YIELD THAT WE WERE ANALYZING.

AND SO IF WE END UP, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S A RANGE THAT THE PORTFOLIO OPTIMIZER WAS CHOOSING FROM.

SO IF WE END UP GOING WITH A SMALLER YIELD, THAT WOULD SHIFT THE ACTUAL COST OF THE PROJECT DOWN.

UM, AND THAT'LL BE REFLECTED KIND OF IN THE FURTHER ANALYSIS.

SO NEXT STEPS, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING THOSE PATHWAYS FOR 2030 TO 2070.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH OF THOSE 2080 PORTFOLIOS, HOW DO WE GET THERE? THEY'LL BE, UM, SCORING THOSE AS WELL USING A SIMILAR PROCESS TO WHAT WE JUST LOOKED AT TODAY.

ONCE WE HAVE THE WHOLE 50 YEAR PORTFOLIOS FROM 2030 TO 2080, THEN WE'LL WORK ON DEVELOPING DATA FOR THE MULTI-CRITERIA, DECISION MAKING ANALYSIS.

SO GOING THROUGH AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, NUMERICAL NUMBERS TO PUT IN FOR THOSE DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES.

WE'LL, UH, BEGIN THE SCORING PROCESS FOR THOSE IDENTIFIED PORTFOLIOS WITH THE GOAL OF BEING ABLE TO PRESENT THAT SCORING AT THE AUGUST 13TH TASK FORCE MEETING.

UM, AND THEN ONCE WE'VE SELECTED A RECOMMENDED PORTFOLIO FOR WATER FORWARD, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT OF AN ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN TO COVER THAT 2080 TO 21, 21 20 TIMEFRAME.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE, OR NEXT SLIDE IS THE QUESTIONS.

SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, I CAN YOU GO BACK FOR A SECOND? YEAH.

JUST ONE SIDE OR, YEAH.

SO YEAH, MY QUESTION IS, UH, ON BULLET FOUR.

SO THE AUGUST 13TH TASK FORCE MEETING WILL HAVE THE PORTFOLIOS WITH THE MCDM ANALYSIS? YES.

SO THE RESULT OF THE MCDM ANALYSIS WILL BE, I MEAN, ALL THE BACKGROUND AND THEN ULTIMATELY KIND OF ONE, NUMBER ONE SCORE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF PORTFOLIOS OR EACH STRATEGY OR EACH PORTFOLIO.

EACH PORTFOLIO OF THE STRATEGY HAS ALREADY BEEN ANALYZED.

UNDER MCDM.

SO THEY ALREADY HAVE A NUMBER OR SOMETHING.

THE STRATEGY, WE USE THE STRATEGY CHARACTERIZATION TO INFORM THE MULTI-CRITERIA DECISION ANALYSIS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE, UH, ENERGY USE.

SO EACH PORTFOLIO WILL HAVE KIND OF AN AGGREGATE ENERGY USE BASED ON THE ENERGY USE OF EACH OF THE STRATEGIES INCLUDED WITHIN IT.

SO WE HAVE, FOR THE STRATEGIES LIKE THAT, THAT PDF THAT HAS ALL OF THE CHARACTERIZATION SHEETS, IT HAS LIKE THE YIELD IN IT.

INFORMATION LIKE A WHOLE SHEET THAT HAS ALL THE COST COMPONENTS.

IT HAS SOME, UH, A DESCRIPTION OF THE ASSUMPTIONS, UM, THAT WE CREATED TO BE ABLE TO CHARACTERIZE THE STRATEGY.

AND THEN IT HAS THE COST, UM, COST

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SO IN TERM WE CAN USE THE YIELD AND OUR EXPECTATIONS ABOUT HOW THE STRATEGY OR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT HOW THE STRATEGY WOULD OPERATE TO DEVELOP AN ESTIMATE OF POTENTIAL, UM, ENERGY USAGE.

UM, YEAH.

AND THEN FOR OTHER THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM MAY BE QUALITATIVE MEASURES, SOME OF THEM LIKE THE NET RETURN FLOWS, WE'RE GONNA GET THAT FROM THE, UM, WATER AVAILABILITY MODELING RUNS THAT RICHARD WILL DO.

UM, THE EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY ANALYSIS WE'VE TAKEN, OUR STAFF HAS TAKEN, UM, THE EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY TOOL FRAMEWORK AND, UM, UH, GONE THROUGH AND, AND, UH, INITIALLY ANSWERED ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND DONE A, AN EVALUATION OF EACH OF THE STRATEGIES.

AND THAT'LL BE ROLLED UP TO THE ULTIMATE, UH, THE TOTAL PORTFOLIO.

SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA BE ASKED TO DO AT THE AUGUST 13TH TASK FORCE MEETING TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THAT EVALUATION? AND I'M, BUT AT A PORTFOLIO LEVEL, LIKE A, A GROUP AT, AT THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS OF STRATEGIES, THESE 10 MM-HMM.

AND IF, YOU KNOW, WE YEAH.

THE, ON THE GROUPS OF THE STRATEGIES LAST TIME WE DID KIND OF LOOK AT THE STRATEGIES.

UM, IF YOU'RE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THE, THE LAST TIME WE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT PORTFOLIOS THAT WE EVALUATED AND THEN WE CREATED SEVERAL HYBRIDS.

BUT THE WAY THAT WE'VE DONE THIS, UM, NOW IS JUST TO HAVE KIND OF A BROADER RANGE OF PORTFOLIOS THAT WE'VE ALREADY EVALUATED IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE, UM, AND COST.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO SELECT FROM THOSE, UM, TO IDENTIFY SOME GROUPINGS THAT WILL MEET OUR GOALS.

SO IF WE GIVE FEEDBACK ON THE PORTFOLIOS AT THE AUGUST 13TH MEETING, WHAT ARE WE DOING AFTER THAT? UM, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE, UH, LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING IS NOT, MY QUESTION IS, I GUESS WE WOULD, YOU WOULD BE PROVIDING FEEDBACK ON THOSE PORTFOLIO STRATEGIES THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED, UM, AT THE AUGUST 13TH MEETING.

I ANTICIPATE THAT THERE MAY BE FURTHER FEEDBACK THAT THE TASK FORCE WANTS TO PROVIDE ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT ULTIMATELY WE WOULD BE INCLUDING IN THE PLAN BUILDING OFF OF 2018.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO ASK LIKE WHAT THE DECISION POINTS ARE HERE AND ALSO A COUPLE THINGS LIKE ONE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

LIKE WHEN I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN'S THE BIG DEAL, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ALSO HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS IT GONNA BE, HOW FAR IN ADVANCE CAN WE GET IT SO THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE OVER WEEKEND OR WHATEVER.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW SURE.

LIKE FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS.

AND I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD CONCEPT IN MY MIND OF LIKE WHAT INPUT AND FEEDBACK WE WOULD PROVIDE AND HOW WHEN, LIKE, WHEN WE'RE VOTING, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF UP TO US, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF THE LARGER OH, I SEE.

SO ALSO, I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND FIGURE OUT LIKE, ARE PEOPLE HERE AUGUST 13TH? JUST 'CAUSE IT'S AUGUST AND EVERYBODY'S LIKES TO GO OUTTA TOWN, FRANKLY, LIKE WE ALL KNOW .

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE REFINED PORTFOLIO SCORING IS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT IN ADVANCE IF WE NEED TO BE, IF THAT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY.

DISCUSSION OF, UM, THE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE TASK FORCE ARE AMONGST THE TASK FORCE ON THE WATER 4 24 RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES, AS WELL AS TOPS MEASURES TO INCLUDE IN A REVISED WATER CONSERVATION PLAN AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

SO, UM, OUR, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING, UM, OR KIND OF WORKING TOWARDS AN OCTOBER 8TH DATE OF HAVING THE TASK FORCE VOTE TO RECOMMEND THE PLAN FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS.

SO OCTOBER 8TH, THE TASK FORCE WOULD BE VOTING TO RECOMMEND THE FINAL PLAN FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL.

OCTOBER 9TH, WE WOULD BE TAKING THOSE FINAL PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO TO WATER WASTEWATER COMMISSION.

AND THEN, UM, TRYING TO GET ONTO A NOVEMBER 5TH COUNCIL AGENDA.

SO DO WE HAVE A SEPTEMBER MEETING? UH, WE HAVE A MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.

AND SO SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, I GUESS THIS WILL BE A GOOD TIME TO MENTION THAT I WAS GOING TO, UM, UH, OR WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN TRY TO SCHEDULE SEVERAL SPECIAL CALLED TASK FORCE MEETINGS.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN, UM, EITHER SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALLED TASK FORCE MEETING IN LATE JULY, LATE AUGUST AND LATE SEPTEMBER, UM, OR SEE HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET, UM, COMMITMENTS FROM TASKFORCE MEMBERS TO ATTEND, UM, WORKING GROUP MEETINGS TO HAVE SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SO IN LATE JULY, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT IF WE COULD FURTHER DISCUSS THE INITIAL, UM, EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY EVALUATION THAT WE'VE DONE AT THE WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGY LEVEL AT AUGUST 13TH.

WE WOULD BE PRESENTING THE MULTI-CRITERIA DECISION MAKING ANALYSIS, UH, OF RESULTS, THE EVALUATION RESULTS AT THAT TIME.

WE WOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE, WHAT I'M CALLING BATCH TWO CONSERVATION STRATEGIES BASED ON TASK FORCE MEMBER INPUT THAT PDF THAT HAS THE LIST, UM, WHICH WE, UM, ARE STILL WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

THEN IN LATE AUGUST, A

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THEN ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, UM, WE BY THAT TIME ARE TRYING TO HAVE A DRAFT PLAN REPORT PULLED TOGETHER 40 TO 60 PAGE, UM, DRAFT PLAN REPORT.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, THE MEETING WHERE WE WOULD BE HOPING TO PRESENT THAT.

UM, WE WOULD ALSO BE WORKING TOWARDS, UH, YOU KNOW, FINALIZING WHAT OUR REVISED WATER CONSERVATION PLAN AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN MEASURES WOULD BE AT THE SEPTEMBER 10TH MEETING, LATE SEPTEMBER IF WE'RE ABLE TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, FURTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TASK FORCE TO, UM, UH, PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE PLAN REPORT DOCUMENT.

AND THEN, UH, OCTOBER 8TH IS WHEN WE WOULD BE ACTUALLY ASKING THE TASK FORCE TO VOTE ON THIS.

UM, KEVIN CRITTENDEN CALLED THIS MY BATTLE PLAN .

I THINK THAT WOULD BE HOW WE WOULD GET TO PULLING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER AND TRYING TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL BY NOVEMBER 5TH IN ALIGNMENT WITH COUNCIL'S REQUEST THAT WE BRING THIS TO THEM BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

MAYBE WE CAN THINK OF A MORE LESS CONCILIATORY ELABORATIVE NAME FOR OUR WORK PLAN .

IT CAN BE OUR BATTLE .

I, LET'S HOPE NOT.

LET'S, OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR GOING OVER THAT.

I, I KNOW THAT, UM, THAT DEFINITELY IS ON YOUR MIND.

ARE WE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THAT TODAY AND TAKING ACTION? I DON'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO DO THAT.

IT'S NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

I JUST BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE OF THE QUESTIONS.

PERFECT.

UM, SO EVERYONE JUST KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S COMING.

UM, WE SHOULD PROBABLY, I HAVE TO SNEEZE, BUT, UM, OH, MAYBE NOT.

UM, BUT, UH, THAT, THAT'S COMING AND I KNOW FOLK, WE SHOULD KIND OF TRY TO WORK THROUGH THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

JUST 'CAUSE OF SCHEDULE.

WHATNOT.

UM, I THINK A LOT, I GUESS IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON FOLKS IF THEY WANNA DO FULL TASK FORCE MEETINGS OR IF THEY WANNA DO SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.

UM, AND THAT'S UP TO FOLKS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TAKE A POLL OR SOMETHING, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS WHO ARE PRESENT TODAY.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE COULD GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS ON THEIR PREFERENCE.

LIKE, I, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DO.

I FEEL LIKE , YOU KNOW, IT FEELS LIKE WE JUST RATIFIED A PLAN, BUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO UPDATE IT.

UM, THE EXECUTION, I FEEL LIKE WE AS A TASK FORCE ARE LESS IMPACTFUL, UH, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN WATER AND OTHER FOLKS KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH RESPECT TO EXECUTION.

SO I THINK THE PLAN IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I'M WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, DO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT IN THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN.

THANKS, TODD.

AND, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW COLLABORATIVE AUSTIN WATER IS WITH US.

I MEAN, I'VE SERVED ON OTHER TASK FORCE AND THINGS FOR THE CITY, AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS, NOT ALWAYS THAT WAY.

SO, UM, EVERYBODY'S REALLY LEANING INTO THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I APPRECIATE GETTING THE PREVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT'S COMING UP.

I JUST THINK IT'S SO HELPFUL TO GET IF AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT, IF WE CAN KNOW, LIKE, WHEN TO EXPECT INFORMATION AND HAVING IT WITH ENOUGH TIME TO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REFERRED TODAY TO SEVERAL THINGS THAT I THINK CAME UP FRIDAY THAT WERE QUITE DETAILED, AND THAT'S JUST HARD WHEN YOU'RE A VOLUNTEER.

SO, AND I KNOW IT'S, YOU GUYS ARE WORKING HARD TO JUST GET IT OUT TO US, BUT LIKE, THINKING THROUGH THAT PART OF THE WORD PLAN ALSO.

SO TO BE REALLY VERY HELPFUL IF YOU SEND US THOSE DATES THAT YOU MENTIONED MM-HMM.

SO WE'LL BE AWARE OF THEM AND, AND, UM, UM, PROBABLY IN A MEETING IN BETWEEN BEFORE A AND A, AS YOU KNOW, MENTIONED, UM, AUGUST IS A, IS, UM, A MONTH, UM, OF PEOPLE TAKING VACATION, INCLUDING MYSELF.

SO IT'D PROBABLY BE GOOD THAT WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS.

, UM, AND TRY TO FIND THE BEST TIME THAT WE CAN MAYBE GET TO, UH, TOGETHER FOR, UM, A MEETING IN BETWEEN MM-HMM.

, ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE, UM, UH, LUCKILY WE HAVE THIS ROOM AGAIN AND FINDING A SPACE TO MEET IF WE WERE TO HOLD ADDITIONAL TASK FORCE MEETINGS HAS BEEN OUR GREATEST CHALLENGE.

UM, WE NOW HAVE PRIORITY ON ROOM 1 0 4 IN ADDITION TO WATER WASTEWATER COMMISSION, OBVIOUSLY.

UM, BUT THAT'LL MAKE IT MUCH EASIER FOR US.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, HOLDS

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ON THE CALENDAR ALREADY.

WE'LL EMAIL OUT, I'LL EMAIL OUT, UM, WORK WITH EMILY TO EMAIL OUT A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO BE COVERING AT UPCOMING MEETINGS.

AND WE'LL EMAIL OUT DATE OPTIONS AS WELL TO SEE WHEN, UH, WOULD WORK FOR MOST FOLKS.

PAUL, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY ELEMENTARY, BUT I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I, I AGREE THAT, UM, THE APPROACH OF TRYING TO GET THESE TO BE FULL TASK FORCE MEETINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND, WE DON'T NEED EVERYONE.

IF EVERYONE CAN'T MAKE IT, AS LONG AS WE CAN GET A QUORUM, THEN YEAH, WE SHOULD TRY TO HAVE ALL OF THESE BE PUBLIC FULL TASK FORCE MEETINGS.

ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, I'M SORRY TO HARP ON THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, I'M LOOKING AT MY EMAIL AND THIS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHAT CAME OUT WAS AT FIVE O'CLOCK ON FRIDAY, AND I THINK TODAY'S MONDAY, I'M NOT EVEN SURE.

TODAY'S TUESDAY.

TODAY'S MONDAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HARD TO, RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, THAT WAS IN THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT FRIDAY, I THINK.

I'M NOT TRACKING ALL THE INFORMATION, SO JUST KEEP, YOU KNOW, JUST LITTLE SURE.

CHEER BECAUSE WE COURTESY FOR, WE WANNA BE PREPARED, BUT LIKE, NOT NECESSARILY A, EVERYBODY ABLE TO DIVE IN MM-HMM.

FROM FIVE O'CLOCK FRIDAY TO NOON MONDAY.

THAT'S HARD FOR ME TO SURE.

THING BE ABLE TO GET INTO.

I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT.

THAT THESE ARE THE MORE DETAILED CHARACTERIZATION SHEETS, UM, THAT BUILD OFF OF THE WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGY CHARACTERIZATION WE PRESENTED SOMETIME, BUT WE'LL, UM, STRIVE TO GET MATERIALS OUT TO TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UM, EARLIER IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETINGS.

THANKS.

UM, OKAY.

DID, DID YOU, YOU FINISH THIS SLIDE, RIGHT? YEP.

I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A QUESTION, SO, OKAY.

UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS THE LEAST CONFUSING PRESENTATION WITH THE WORD WAVE AND THE TITLE I'VE SEEN SO FAR.

UM, TO ME, NOT, NOT IN GENERAL, IT'S JUST COMPLICATED.

UM, NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF GOT SOME PORTFOLIOS AND STUFF, IT'S KIND OF COMING TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT.

TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS AN UPDATE ON THE WATER, 4 20 24 DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AND DO A LITTLE SWITCHER.

UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON

[4. Update on Water Forward 2024 demand management strategies]

OH YEAH.

SIT OVER THERE, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN SEE YOU.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, AND WE'RE BEING JOINED BY OUR, UM, MEMBERS OF OUR CONSULTANT TEAM FROM PLUMBER, UH, TO HELP US MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS IS BRIDGET BUFF, WHO IS SERVING AS OUR PROJECT MANAGER ON THE PLUMBER SIDE.

GREAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME.

PACKET THAT'S HANDED OUT.

SO AS, UM, MARISSA MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, A LITTLE BIT AGO ABOUT THE SCHEDULE, SHE HAD REFERRED TO THE BATCH TWO CONSERVATION STRATEGIES.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FOCUS OF THIS SECTION OF THE PRESENTATION IS, IS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE TASK FORCE COMMENTS AND JUST GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON, UM, WHERE WE ARE AT AT EVALUATING AND, UH, ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS.

SO, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF TOWARDS THE END OF THE PACKET.

UM, AND THEN ALSO IN THE PDF THAT WAS SENT OUT, THERE'S GONNA BE A TABLE THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.

UM, SO IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU HAVE THIS TO, TO BRING THIS UP JUST TO, TO REFERENCE IT, BUT IF NOT, THIS IS GOING TO GO OVER IT.

UM, JUST AS WELL, JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER LEVEL.

SO TO KIND OF ORIENT YOU GUYS ON THIS TABLE AND WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, SO THE TASK FORCE COMMENTS WERE ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND PUT INTO, UH, THIS TABLE HERE.

SO, UH, ON COLUMN FOUR, THAT WOULD BE THE RAW COMMENT NUMBERS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS ARE.

WE'VE RECEIVED 78 INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS FROM TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UM, AND IN THE TABLE THAT WAS SUPPLIED AS A PDF, THAT ALSO LISTS OUT THE TASK FORCE MEMBER THAT GAVE IT, WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED, UM, HOW THAT INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED.

SO THIS HAS A ALL THE DETAILS, UM, FOR INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS GONE THROUGH, SO THOSE 78 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS AND KIND OF GROUPED THEM TOGETHER, UM, FOR WHAT WAS SIMILAR, I GUESS SIMILAR VEINS, SIMILAR IDEAS, UM, AND GROUPED THEM INTO 28 STRATEGIES THAT COULD ADDRESS EACH OF THOSE, UH, VARIOUS COMMENTS.

AND AGAIN, THOSE STRATEGIES WERE EVEN, UM, CATEGORIZED FURTHER INTO THIS CATEGORY COLUMN.

SO WE'VE GOT WATER CONSERVATION STRATEGIES, THOSE, UH, RELATED TO EXISTING WATER, UH, FORWARD 24 STRATEGIES, POLICY MATTERS, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

UM, ANY OF THE KIND OF GENERAL COMMENTS.

UM, THERE WAS ONE COMMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING IMPLEMENTED.

BRIDGE, WE HAVE A QUESTION.

SORRY, CAN YOU JUST REPEAT LIKE HOW WE RECEIVED THIS? IT'S ON THE WEBSITE OR WE GOT AN EMAIL THAT THIS, THAT YOU'RE SAYING.

OH, THIS, WELL, THIS IS IN THE BACK OF THE, THE

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AND THEN ALSO THIS WAS A PDF THAT WAS EMAILED OUT ON WEDNESDAY.

I KNOW.

WEDNESDAY.

I WANNA KNOW WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY ON WEDNESDAY.

WEDNESDAY IT WAS WITH THE, UM, THE MINUTES.

AND I THINK THERE WERE THREE, THE MINUTES WERE SENT OFF FRIDAY.

YEAH, THIS WAS A, AN EMAIL THAT CAME FROM EMILY RAFFERTY BY ITSELF ON WEDNESDAY.

IN THE BACK OF THE PACKET WE HAVE HERE.

I KNOW EVERYONE.

I KNOW IT'S IN THE BACK OF THE PACKET, BUT I WANNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT LATER.

, LIKE HAVE IT STORED AND KNOW WHERE IT IS.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO CATCH UP.

I'M SORRY FOR NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

AND SO, YEAH, SO THIS ONE IS FOR, FOR YOUR REFERENCE TO SEE THE INDIVIDUAL BREAKDOWN WHAT THOSE 78 COMMENTS WERE.

SO I'M GONNA BE KIND OF GOING OVER MORE HIGH LEVEL.

IN TERMS OF THE 28, UH, STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE.

SO FOR EACH OF THOSE, UH, CATEGORIES, THEY'VE BEEN GROUPED INTO THREE, KIND OF THREE LEVELS OF WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE.

SO 14 STRATEGIES ARE GOING TO BE EVALUATED FOR POTENTIAL WATER SAVINGS OR COST.

UM, THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY, UH, WHAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED KIND OF AS PART OF THE WATER FORWARD PLAN.

UM, THEN THERE WERE 10 TOTAL, UH, STRATEGIES THAT ARE STILL GOING TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE EVALUATED, UH, FOR POTENTIAL WATER SAVINGS OR COST.

AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, THEY MAY NOT HAVE A COST, A TRUE COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD DO, UM, AS A UTILITY OR THAT OTHERS, UM, RECOMMEND DOING.

AND THEN LASTLY, THERE'S TWO, UH, THERE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM THAT WILL NOT BE EVALUATED FOR WATER SAVINGS OR COST.

AND I'M GONNA GO, UM, BRING EACH OF THESE UP IN, IN THE LATER SLIDES SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHICH ONES OF THOSE FALL INTO WHICH CATEGORY.

AND SO FOR THE NEXT MEETING, OUR INTENT IS THAT FOR THOSE THAT HAVE POTENTIAL WATER SAVINGS OR COSTS, THAT WE WILL PRESENT AN UPDATE ON THOSE, ON WHAT POTENTIAL YIELDS AND COSTS YOU COULD SEE FROM SOME OF THOSE NEWER STRATEGIES THAT YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING FORWARD AND SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THAT COULD HAVE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THAT AS A UTILITY.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON JUST KIND OF THE CATEGORIZATION BEFORE WE BREAK INTO EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES? AND I DID JUST WANNA MENTION, SO WE'VE GOT SOME OF THESE, UM, LIKE THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE WERE NINE STRATEGIES THAT EMERGED FROM THAT CONSOLIDATED, UH, 19 INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS.

AND AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS.

WE DO WANNA HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE TASK FORCE ABOUT OUR PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

SO WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT, OR WE THINK THAT THERE, UM, SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE UTILITY AND THE TASK FORCE ON THOSE THINGS THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN POTENTIALLY A REVISED WATER CONSERVATION PLAN AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN.

JUST A HIGH LEVEL QUESTION THEN.

UM, IS THERE, IS THERE A PLACE FOR, IN THE WATER FORWARD 24 UPDATE? IS THERE A SET ASIDE PLACE FOR BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES? IN ADDITION TO THE RECOMMENDED ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN? WE INCLUDED, UH, A SET OF BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN THE LAST WATER FORWARD PLAN.

THEY WERE, THEY, UH, OFTEN THEY WERE REFERRED TO AS, UM, UH, LIKE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENTS.

YOU'LL SEE THAT PHRASE IN THE LAST PLAN.

THEY'RE THINGS THAT KIND OF HELP OTHER STRATEGIES TO REALIZE THEIR YIELDS.

EVALUATE AND SEE IF THERE'S SPECIFIC PIECES THAT THAT NEED TO BE EXPANDED UPON IN THE PLAN.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, SO FOR THE REST OF THESE, UM, IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE TABLE IN YOUR PACKET, UM, I'M, THESE ARE BASICALLY SUMMARIZING WHAT'S IN THE FIRST THREE COLUMNS, WHICH IS THIS CONSOLIDATED STRATEGY NUMBER.

UH, THEY ARE NUMBERED ONE THROUGH, WHAT WAS IT, 28? 28.

UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN SEE INDIVIDUALLY FOR EACH ONE OF THESE CONSOLIDATED STRATEGIES, WHAT INDIVIDUAL RAW COMMENTS WERE KIND OF LUMPED TOGETHER AND FED INTO THERE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A SPECIFIC COMMENT THAT YOU MAY HAVE MADE PREVIOUSLY.

UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH AND READ DOWN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE.

UM, BUT FOR, FOR THIS SLIDE AND THE NEXT ONE, THESE COVER, UM, NUMBERS ONE THROUGH 11.

THESE ARE THE ONES IN THAT FIRST CATEGORY THAT WILL BE EVALUATED FOR POTENTIAL WATER SAVINGS AND COST.

UH, SOME OF THESE ARE INCLUDED ALREADY IN THE WATER FORWARD, UH, CURRENT 24 PLAN IN DRAFT FORM.

UM, AND THESE WILL BE PRESENTED UPON NEXT TIME WITH ACTUAL COST AND YIELDS.

THEY INCLUDE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME THINGS ABOUT INCREASING OUTDOOR WATER RESTRICTIONS, UM, LIMITING HOURS FOR PATIO, MRS. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LOOKING AT POOL PERMITS, REUSED ORDINANCES.

AND THEN ON THIS SLIDE, AND THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE CONNECTING THE TRAVIS COUNTY COURTHOUSE TO RECLAIMED, UM, CONNECTING THE STATE CAPITAL COMPLEX TO RECLAIMED.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

SO BOTH, BOTH THIS SLIDE AND THE LAST SLIDE ARE BOTH THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE EVALUATED FOR COST AND SAVINGS AND CONNECTING THE UT CAMPUS TO RECLAIMED, UM, EXPANDING VOLUNTARY RECLAIMED.

A LOT OF IT'S ABOUT THE RECLAIMED SYSTEM, SO IT'S THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING LOOKED AT.

IT'S JUST THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FURTHER, ADDITIONAL IDEAS THAT THE TASK FORCE HAS BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO

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UM, AND THEN A FEW, UH, ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, UH, LOOKING AT KIND OF THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND, AND SEEING WAYS THAT THAT CAN BE EXPANDED AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE ONES THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY CURRENTLY IN THE WATER FORWARD 24 PLAN.

AND SO THEY'RE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE EVALUATED AGAIN FOR COST AND SAVINGS.

BUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

UM, MY FELLOW TASK FORCE MEMBERS WILL PROBABLY ROLL THEIR EYES OR A LAUGH BECAUSE I, I'M, I MAKE THIS COMMENT A LOT.

UM, BUT WHEN, WHEN I SEE, UM, TOPICS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTROL THE NUMBER OF POOL PERMITS OR, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CONTROLLING THE PERCENTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S, UH, PROPERTY THAT CAN, THAT CAN HAVE TURF GRASS.

UM, I, I SEE THOSE AS STRATEGIES THAT LIKELY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE, BUT THEY REQUIRE, UM, EVALUATION PERMITTING AND POLICING OR, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT TO CONTROL.

UM, I, I, I STILL BELIEVE THAT, UM, AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE MODEL, UM, CAN, CAN BE USED TO DRIVE BEHAVIOR AS WELL OR BETTER THAN MANDATES.

UM, AND, AND I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE THINK ABOUT THIS, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER PER HOUSEHOLD OR PER CAPITA PER HOUSEHOLD THAT SHOULD BE REALLY AFFORDABLE AND INEXPENSIVE AND AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY IN THE AUSTIN AREA.

AND, AND THEN THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER THAT PEOPLE ARE USING TODAY AND COULD BE USING IN THE FUTURE, WHICH SHOULD BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

UM, IF, IF FOLKS WANT TO CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT IN TURF GRASS AND WATER LARGE YA LAWNS OR PUT IN LARGE POOLS, ET CETERA.

AND, AND I JUST THINK THAT IF WE CAN ALIGN THE INCENTIVES, WE'LL GET MOST OF THE POPULATION TO DO WHAT WANT 'EM TO DO BY THEIR OWN CHOICE.

AND THE REST OF THE POPULATION THAT, THAT FEELS LIKE THEY WANT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, WILL, WILL END UP GIVING US ENOUGH MONEY THAT WE CAN GO DO SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

AND, AND I'M WONDERING IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAVING, ARE BEING HAD ELSEWHERE, OR IF I SHOULD JUST SHUT UP AND NOT BRING THEM UP ANYMORE.

UM, WELL IN SOME OF THE, THE LATER SECTIONS ON, ESPECIALLY THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, IT DOES INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE, SOME OF THOSE KIND OF INCENTIVES, SOME OF THE EDUCATION, SOME OF THE, THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN, IN A POSITIVE WAY, UH, PROVIDE THE CARROT INSTEAD OF THE STICK TO HAVE PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIORS AND PROVIDE SOME OF THAT, UM, THAT DEMAND REDUCTION THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT NECESSARILY ORDINANCE THEM, UM, LEFT AND RIGHT.

SO I THINK SOME OF THAT IS INCORPORATED IN, IN PIECES OF THIS AND AREN'T ALL COMPLETELY ORDINANCE BASED.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, HAVING, UM, THE FINANCIAL SIDE, LIKE ON SOME OF THE REUSE PIECES WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED.

UM, WE'RE GIVING A DEEPER LOOK AT THAT TO SEE KIND OF WHAT IMPACT, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THE FINANCES THAT'S, THAT'S DRIVING THE DECISIONS FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT IT OR NOT.

UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THAT THRESHOLD LOOKS LIKE OF WHERE AN INCENTIVE, AT WHAT POINT IS MONEY NOT IS, IS NOT GOING TO HELP WHAT OTHER OBSTACLES NON-COST OBSTACLES COULD BE IN THE WAY FOR THAT STRATEGY.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE FOLKS, UM, AS THEY BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION AND OR RENOVATE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION, MAKE CHOICES THAT ARE IN LINE WITH USING LESS WATER.

UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE ON WHAT WILL BE EVALUATED FOR ADDITIONAL COST AND SAVINGS, BUT THESE ARE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY PART OF THE EXISTING WATER FORWARD 24 STRATEGIES.

UM, SO THIS IS THE VOLUNTARY WATER BUDGETING, UM, EXPANDING THE WATER LOSS PROGRAM THAT'S ALREADY PART OF, UH, WATER FORWARD 24.

AND WE'VE BEEN IN, UH, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CONSERVATION TEAM, INCLUDING LOOKING AT LIKE STAFFING, UH, AND PROGRAMMING OF, OF THINGS LIKE THAT TO, TO EXPAND THE WATER LOSS PROGRAM.

AND THEN LASTLY, EXPANDING THE ONSITE REUSE ORDINANCES TO INCLUDE SMALLER BUILDINGS, UH, THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE DEMAND REDUCTION PATHWAYS IN THE CURRENT PLAN AS WELL.

ANY QUESTIONS ON WHAT WILL BE EVALUATED AND PRESENTED UPON FURTHER AT THE NEXT MEETING? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

I JUST, I'M NOT SURE WE ANSWERED TODD'S QUESTION FULLY, UH, BECAUSE I DON'T, TODD, IN WHAT YOU'RE SEEM TO BE SUGGESTING IS LIKE A SORT OF TIERED PRICING OR NOT TIERED PRICING.

IT'S LIKE PRICING BASED ON USAGE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ONE OF THE STRATEGIES THAT IS GONNA BE EVALUATED, BUT I'D BE, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'D MAYBE BE INTERESTED IN HEARING HOW IT SHAKES OUT IF WE EVALUATE A MODEL LIKE THAT.

I JUST, I, I THINK THAT YES, THE SHORT ANSWER, UM, AND I THINK AS WE INCREASE OUR POPULATION AND WITHOUT A MASSIVE INCREASE IN OUR WATER SUPPLY,

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AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE IS THERE FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES ON THEIR OWN YET.

YEAH, I MEAN I THINK I, I'M CURIOUS TO SEE THAT TOO.

I MEAN, I'M, LIKE I SAID AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS, I AM ALL ABOUT STICKS AND NOT AS MUCH ABOUT CARROTS 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE CARROTS WE'VE OFFERED HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE SO FAR.

BUT THIS, WHAT TODD'S SUGGESTING SEEMS TO ME LIKE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN A CARROT AND A STICK IF YOU'RE GONNA, BECAUSE THE STICK IS LIKE SUPER HIGH PRICE FOR WATER, IDEALLY, UM, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING OR USING WATER IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T THINK IS SOCIALLY OPTIMAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UM, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN IT AS, UH, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE EFFECTIVE IN REACHING OUR, UH, WATER CONSERVATION GOALS.

SO, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD JUST SECOND THAT I WOULD, I WOULD NOT RELY ON IT ENTIRELY AND I WOULD KEEP ALL OF THE ORDINANCES AND STRENGTHEN ALL OF THE ORDINANCES AS I'VE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.

BUT I LIKE THAT IDEA.

I MEAN, THERE'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WHAT TODD IS TALKING, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASING BLOCK RATES IS SOMETHING THAT AUSTIN DOES PRETTY AGGRESSIVELY, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY LOOKED AT COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, BUT IT HAS BEEN PRETTY AGGRESSIVE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES ALSO WITH A, YOU KNOW, BASIC USE RATE.

BUT, BUT WHAT TODD IS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT, BUT PLUS, YOU KNOW, AND ALMOST THINKING LIKE ABOUT LIKE HOUSEHOLD WATER BUDGETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING, I MEAN, THE THING IS IS, IS THE TYPES OF WATER USES THAT ARE GONNA DRIVE A LOT OF THIS ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT THAT COST TWO AND THREE TIMES WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD SEVERAL YEARS AGO ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULD REALLY BE BANKROLLING IT AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE USING, YOU KNOW, THE BASE WATER SUPPLY, UM, THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF LIKE, IF WE JUST, EVERYBODY USED A REALLY, UM, EFFICIENT BASE WATER SUPPLY IF WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE HAVING ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS ANYWAY, WE'D BE FINE WITH WATER SUPPLY.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

BUT, UM, ANYWAY, I, I DO, UM, I AGREE WITH, WITH, UH, TODD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING, BUT I SEE THAT, THAT MAURICE HAS TURNED HER MIC ON.

WELL, I'VE TURNED MY , I DID.

UM, , NO, MARISSA IS START TIRED OF ME SAYING THIS, SO HERE WE GO.

NO, I'M NOT.

I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT JENNIFER MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE TIERED RATE STRUCTURE THAT DOES HAVE KIND OF A, A, A BASE PORTION OF THE RATE TO ALLOW FOR, UM, FOLKS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, USING A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF HOUSEHOLD USAGE, KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, SUBSISTENCE LEVEL OF HOUSEHOLD USAGE.

AND THEN THE MORE DISCRETIONARY USAGE THAT'S PILED ON YOU, UM, ENTER INTO THOSE HIGHER AND HIGHER TIERS.

SO THAT IS SEEKING TO PROVIDE THAT SORT OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO USE LESS.

UM, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN A PART OF OUR RATES FOR SOME TIME NOW.

UM, AND IS, I THINK A, A PRETTY GOOD FINANCIAL INCENTIVE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A, A PROCESS TO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, THIS COST OF SERVICE PROCESS AND WE ARE, UM, EVALUATING AND, AND PROPOSING RATE INCREASES AT THIS TIME.

I THINK ON, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 9%.

UM, AND THEN, UM, I THINK THE HIGHEST RATE INCREASES, UM, ARE BEING GOING TO BE BORN OR WOULD BE BORN, UM, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THINGS.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND WOULD ALSO POTENTIALLY HAVE A, PROVIDE A FURTHER FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR FOLKS TO USE LESS WATER IN THE FUTURE.

I DUNNO IF OTHERS WANNA ADD TO THAT .

NO, I MEAN THAT ALL, EVERYTHING KEVIN CRIT AND EVERYTHING THAT MARISA SAID IS IN FACT TRUE.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH OUR UPDATE TO OUR COST OF SERVICE STUDY.

I MEAN, WE, I DON'T, I WOULD, I'M START STOPPING SHORT TO SAY THAT WE'VE KIND OF PERHAPS GOTTEN EXACTLY WHAT PAUL OR OR TODD MAY BE REFERENCING.

I MEAN, MAYBE NOT GOING TO A PUNITIVE PLACE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY INCREASING, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT THE COST AND ELASTICITY IS OF WATER, CERTAINLY AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF INCOME IS VERY HARD TO PREDICT FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE.

UM, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, KNOWLEDGE AROUND THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT.

SO THAT'S, UH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S,

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I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

I WILL SAY TOO, THAT THE WATER BUDGETING STRATEGY THAT'S INCLUDED IS THE TEMP.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE IDEA OR THE IDEA OF THE WATER BUDGETING STRATEGY WOULD BE THAT WE'D USE A MI DATA AS WELL AS OTHER DATA BENCHMARKING DATA GATHERED THROUGH, UM, THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE NOW REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED ALONG WITH A DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN.

AND WE WOULD SET BUDGETS FOR WATER USAGE FOR, UM, CUSTOMERS.

AND THOSE BUDGETS WOULD SAY HOW MUCH WATER WOULD BE KIND OF REASONABLE TO BE USED BY THESE DIFFERENT CUSTOMER, UM, SECTORS AND BASED ON DEVELOPMENT TYPOLOGIES.

AND THEN WE, WHAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT WOULD BE THE, THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF STICK ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WHETHER THAT'S A SURCHARGE ON YOUR USAGE, UM, IF YOU EXCEED THAT BUDGET OR WHETHER THERE IS SOME OTHER SORT OF MEASURE TO, UM, ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO STAY WITHIN THEIR BUDGET.

UH, I MEAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, KEVIN, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

UM, KNOW, MY, MY, MY FEAR HERE IS THAT WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT A SERIES OF CAPITALLY INTENSE INTENSIVE PROJECTS.

UM, I THINK I SAW THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS OF EXPENSE.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THE, THE RESULT IS THAT RATES ARE GONNA GO UP ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND SO EVERYBODY IS GONNA BE TAXED, TAXED IS THE WRONG WORD.

EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR THE WATER THAT THEY, THEY NEED IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.

AND, AND ALL I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT, THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING, UM, EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNTS OF WATER AND, AND OPTIONAL DECISIONS AND, AND WE SHOULD EITHER, UM, INCENTIVIZE THOSE DECISIONS TO BE MADE DIFFERENTLY OR, UM, REQUIRE THOSE PEOPLE TO PAY THEIR PAY MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE FOR THE INCREMENTAL COST OF WATER AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.

SO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE ALL ALIGNED ON THE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EVALUATING THOSE, UH, AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD.

YES, I TOTALLY AGREE.

AND THIS IS SUPER HELPFUL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

IT IS A FASCINATING QUESTION.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS THIS, THE DEMAND FOR WATER FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE MONEY TO PAY AT THE HIGHER RATES IS TOTALLY IN ELASTIC.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE WE'VE RUN THE EXPERIMENT.

I MEAN, MAYBE WE JUST TEST IT.

HOW MUCH CAN YOU SQUEEZE OUT OF THOSE HIGHEST USERS IN ORDER TO, TO FUND WHAT'S NECESSARY? THAT'S, UM, THAT, THAT DEFINITELY RELATES TO OUR GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD BEFORE.

IF THOSE ARE BEING DRIVEN UP BY PEOPLE WHO AREN'T RESPONSIVE TO THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE, MAYBE CHANGE THE RATE STRUCTURE TO, UM, GET THE RESULT YOU WANT.

IN MY MIND, THE WAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT OR TRYING TO GET TO THAT, UM, TYPE OF APPROACH IS THROUGH THE WATER BUDGETING STRATEGY THAT'S INCLUDED IN WATERFORD.

AND THEN I THINK WE'LL ALSO GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER TOO IN A COUPLE SLIDES ON, UM, STRATEGY NUMBER 23, WHICH IS EXEMPTING ESSENTIAL HOUSEHOLD USE FROM THE DROUGHT SURCHARGE.

IT'S KIND OF LOOKING AT IT THE OTHER WAY, UM, AS WELL.

OH, BILL HAS A QUESTION.

THANK YOU, BILL.

UH, I'LL WAIT UNTIL THIS IS OVER AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHTY.

REALLY PUT SOME, YOU KNOW, A PATH FORWARD TO EACH OF THOSE.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE COVERED ALL THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, EVALUATED FURTHER IN TERMS OF JUST SAVINGS AND COSTS, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT BY THOSE, THESE WILL ALSO, UM, STILL BE CONSIDERED, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO REALLY PUT SOME, SOME SERIOUS DOLLARS AND COSTS.

OR MAYBE THE YIELDS AREN'T SUBSTANTIAL, BUT THERE'S STILL SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, OR VICE VERSA.

SO IN TERMS OF THESE, UM, CONSOLIDATED STRATEGY NUMBER 12, UM, WE HAVE THAT AS A, AS A POLICY DECISION, UH, LOOKING DEEPER INTO SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS, UM, 16 THROUGH 19 ON THIS PAGE.

ADDITIONAL ONES THAT ARE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

UM, MOST OF THESE, I'D SAY A LARGE PORTION OF THESE DON'T HAVE A TRUE, UH, COST, REALLY ANALYSIS TO BE DONE.

'CAUSE A LOT OF IT'S JUST, UM, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, GETTING, GETTING WORDS OUT THERE, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW AND BEING ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEIR WATERING DAY WAS.

I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT ON THERE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEIR TRASH DAY IS, THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEIR WATERING DAYS ARE, UM, WHAT DROUGHT STAGE YOU'RE IN AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, UM, REACHING OUT TO NURSERIES AND LANDSCAPERS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO INCREASE, TO HELP INCREASE THE, THE, THE WIDESPREAD USE OF THE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS AND TO REALLY GET THE WORD OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THESE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY GREAT IDEAS.

THEY'RE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT A COST TO IT IN TERMS OF JUST MORE STAFF, MORE SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNING.

UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, FRANKLY, PRETTY GOOD IDEAS.

UM, THEY JUST NEED TO BE VETTED OUT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND, AND

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UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, USING THE MY A TX WATER METERS, UH, FOR FOLLOW UP INFORMATION.

UH, GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE'S ONE MORE PAGE OF SOME MORE SIMILAR ONES.

UM, SO FOR STRATEGIES 20 THROUGH 23, THIS IS IN THE SAME CATEGORY.

MORE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.

UH, SO DEVELOPING A PUBLIC FACING SOP FOR INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW NOT ONLY THAT THERE ARE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, BUT HOW TO DO IT AND THAT IT'S NOT SO CUMBERSOME THAT PEOPLE ARE SCARED AWAY FROM DOING IT.

UM, CREATING A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM TO HELP TRAIN UP THOSE LANDSCAPERS, AGAIN, TO HELP, UM, EXPAND SOME OF THOSE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS AS WELL.

UM, MORE OUTREACH.

AND THEN LASTLY, NUMBER 23.

THIS IS KIND OF TOUCHING A LITTLE BIT.

WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND, UM, RATHER THAN CHARGING MORE, THIS IS JUST DURING, YOU KNOW, FOR DROUGHT CONDITIONS, BUT EXEMPTING, UH, ESSENTIAL HOUSEHOLD USE FROM DROUGHT SURCHARGE, UH, ESTABLISHING KIND OF A MINIMUM HOUSEHOLD AMOUNT.

UM, AND JUST FOCUSING ON ESSENTIAL USES.

SO THESE ARE MORE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, BUT WHEN WE COME FORWARD, IT'S NOT GONNA NECESSARILY BE A, A YIELD AND A COST ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THESE.

UM, BUT WE'LL BE LOOKED INTO FURTHER AND, UH, POTENTIALLY RECOMMENDED AS PART OF A BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE IN THE 24 PLAN.

AND THEN ONE, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

THERE'S, UH, THREE MORE CATEGORIES, WHICH ARE, THESE ARE JUST KIND OF THE GENERAL ONES.

SOME OF IT WAS ABOUT REPORTING EDITORIAL COMMENTS AND GENERAL COMMENTS THAT ARE DETAILED IN THE TABLE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE ONES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A COST AND YIELD ASSOCIATED.

THEY'LL JUST, UH, BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN AS NEEDED.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE TWO CATEGORIES, UM, THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE, UH, EVALUATED FOR WATER SAVINGS OR COST.

THE FIRST ONE BEING, UH, COLOR CODED FEEDBACK ON WATER USAGE IN THE PORTAL.

AND THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING IMPLEMENTED RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE, THE LAST ONE, UH, WE DID LOOK INTO DEVELOPING A FOG HARP SYSTEM, UM, BUT IT'S LIKELY TO HAVE INSUBSTANTIAL YEAR YIELD, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE HUMIDITY LEVELS JUST AREN'T QUITE, UM, ENOUGH TO GET WHAT IT NEEDS TO OUT OF THERE.

SO THAT ONE WON'T, WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.

UH, AND THAT COVERS ALL 28 CATEGORIES THAT ARE IN THE TABLE.

AGAIN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NINE PAGES ON THIS TABLE FOR ALL.

HOW MANY WERE THERE TOTAL? 78 TOTAL INDIVIDUAL, UH, RAW COMMENTS.

BUT, UM, THAT IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE 28 GENERAL CATEGORIES, UM, FOR PRESENTATION AND UPDATE NEXT TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CATEGORIZATION OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED? BILL? UM, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE THIS IN ANALYSIS IN ADVANCE TO OUR NEXT WATER FORWARD MEETING? THE NEXT, UH, THE MEETING WE ARE HOPING TO PRESENT, UH, THIS ON WOULD BE AUGUST 13TH.

AND SO OUR TARGET IS TO GET THIS TO THE SAVINGS AND YIELD ESTIMATES TO THE TASK FORCE BY AUGUST 6TH.

UH, THANK YOU.

I WILL WRITE THAT DOWN AND, UH, BE, BE READY TO ANALYZE ALONG WITH YOU.

UH, ONE OTHER THING THAT, UM, WE SHOULD KEEP OUR EYE ON IS THE ISSUE OF IMPACT FEES.

AND THE CITY HAS NEVER REALLY DONE A VERY GOOD JOB OF COLLECTING ALL THE IMPACT FEES THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET.

AND I WILL REMIND ONE OF MY FELLOW WATER WASTEWATER COMMISSIONERS, THE ESTEEMED SARAH FAUST, SHE WILL REMEMBER SOME YEARS AGO WHEN SHE AND OTHERS ON THE WATER WASTEWATER COMMISSION, UH, REQUESTED IN THE NICEST OF WAY THAT THE CITY DISCONTINUE A, A DISCOUNT PROGRAM WHERE THEY WERE DISCOUNTING IMPACT FEES BY AS MUCH AS 75%.

AND I THINK WE GOT RID OF ALL THE DISCOUNTS.

BUT I HOPE IN ALL OF THIS WATER FORWARD STUFF, WE ARE TAKING A MAXIMUM OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THESE COSTS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CREATING GROWTH, CREATING EXPENSE.

I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AUSTIN WATER IS ON TOP OF THIS AND MAKING SURE THOSE IMPACT FEES REPRESENT THE TRUE COST OF PROVIDING THESE SERVICES, NOT ONLY IN WATER FIELD, BUT IN THE WASTEWATER FIELD AS WELL.

AND, UH, THAT WILL TAKE A LOT OF LOAD OFF OF OUR EXISTING RATE PAYERS IF WE CAN GET THE DEVELOPERS TO PAY

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THEIR FAIR SHARE.

INCLUDES MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU, BILL.

UM, DOES ANYBODY WANNA FOLLOW UP OR ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IMPACT FEES ON THAT ONE? OKAY.

UH, KEVIN CRIDEN.

I MEAN, I, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THE ONLY, UM, AREAS WHERE THERE ARE STILL SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPACT FEE WAIVERS, THEY'RE COUNCIL DIRECTED AND THEY ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO OTHERWISE, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, WE ARE APPLYING IMPACT FEES FOR EVERY NEW DEVELOPMENT AND EVERY NEW CONNECTION.

AND WE ARE RECOVERING THOSE IMPACT FEES.

SO THANKS FOR THAT HELP.

IT'S HELPFUL.

AND I DON'T MEAN FOR THIS TO BE ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT IN REGARD TO IMPACT FEES, 'CAUSE I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S SO MUCH CHANGE RIGHT NOW IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE HAVING THESE SMALLER LOTS WHERE IT'S, AND MULTIPLE HOUSES ON SMALLER LOTS, THIS DENSITY INCREASE.

AND SO A LOT OF QUESTIONS I'VE HEARD IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS RELATE TO INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND SIZE EXPANSION.

AND I, WHAT I JUST DON'T KNOW FACTUALLY IS HOW, HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE YOU HAVE TO BE CAUSING TO TRIGGER AN IMPACT FEE IN TERMS OF LIKE, THERE'S THREE UNITS GOING IN ON THIS BLOCK, THERE'S 12 ON THIS BLOCK, AND LIKE, HOW IS THAT ALMOST AD HOC, BUT IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN CAPACITY, HOW IS THAT ADDRESSED WITH IMPACT FEES? AND ARE THOSE, I MEAN, IS IT PER REAL, LIKE AT A RESIDENTIAL PER UNIT, IF YOU'RE NOT DOING A LARGER DEVELOPMENT, I JUST DON'T RECALL.

IS THERE A MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, SIZE TO TRIGGER THAT KIND OF THING? SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE NOT.

UM, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME NUANCES TO THE EXTENT THAT IF AN IMPACT FEE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH A SINGLE LOT, UM, IF A NEW, IF SOMETHING IS KNOCKED DOWN AND REBUILT, THEN UM, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE.

HOWEVER, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING BUILT THAT WAS MORE IMPACTFUL, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES BASED ON THE NUMBER OF METERS THAT WERE OR METER EQUIVALENTS.

UM, SO AT THAT POINT, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S OUR APPROACH AT THIS JUNCTURE.

MM-HMM, , UM, I WILL SAY LIKE YOU, UM, WE'VE HEARD ALL SORTS OF SOLUTIONS TO THAT FROM ADVOCATES THAT ARE ADVOCATING, YOU KNOW, MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT OR MORE INFILL DEVELOPMENTS.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WATCH THAT.

UM, BUT AT THIS POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, BASICALLY THE SIMPLE TERMS IS IF YOU'RE BRINGING NEW METER OR A NEW METER EQUIVALENT TO THE SYSTEM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE.

SO, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, BILL'S POINT IS THERE'S ENOUGH LARGE DEVELOPMENT IN AUSTIN TOO THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE, UM, PAYING FOR THEIR COST OF EXPANSION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK HIS POINT IS WELL TAKEN JUST AS FAR AS SOME OF THE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, LIKE THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BREAKDOWN IS IF THAT, HOW IT'S BEING PAID FOR, BUT IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL COMING IN AT EXISTING RATES.

I DON'T, I'M NOT ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION ANYMORE.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME, HAD A PREVIOUSLY HAD A WHOLE FINANCIAL TASK FORCE.

UM, AGAIN, WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED.

THE MOST RECENT, UM, RECENTLY UPDATED IMPACT FEE, WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UH, WANNA SAY AROUND A YEAR AGO, UM, THAT WENT THROUGH THE WATER WASTEWATER COMMISSION AND COUNCIL.

UM, IT DID INCLUDE, UM, INCREASED FEES ACROSS BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE.

UM, A LARGE DRIVER ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE OR INVESTMENTS, UH, RELATED TO ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AT PRIMARILY WALNUT, UM, IMPACT FEE LAWS SUCH THAT IT KIND OF CONFINES WHAT YOU CAN INCLUDE IN YOUR IMPACT FEE BASIS TO A 10 YEAR PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO, UM, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS AROUND, UH, RATE REVENUE CREDIT CALCULATIONS TO TRY TO LEVELIZE ALL THAT.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SUMMARIZE IT TO SAY THAT WE ARE VERY MINDFUL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR IMPACT FEES ARE KEPT UP TO DATE AND THEY DO IN FACT REFLECT, UM, THE COST AND COST IMPACTS OF KEEPING INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY, UH, TRYING TO ATTRIBUTE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF COST TO NEW DEVELOPMENT.

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SO ONE OF THE, UM, YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK TO US WITH THIS REVIEW FOR WATER SAVINGS FOR THESE STRATEGIES.

IS THERE ALSO GONNA BE, AT THAT TIME SORT OF AN UPDATE TO THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN? WHEN IS THAT COMING? UM, SORRY, ON AUGUST 3RD, I, I, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE UPDATE TO THE OVERALL GOALS ON AUGUST 13TH, UM, JUST YET.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WATER SAVINGS AND THEN THE COSTS ALTOGETHER.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TIME TO LOOK AT KIND OF THE FEASIBILITY OF ACHIEVING MORE REDUCED GOALS BASED ON THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS FROM THESE STRATEGIES.

AND THEN I THINK IN SEPTEMBER, AT SEPTEMBER, UH, THE SEPTEMBER 10TH MEETING IS WHEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT, UM, POTENTIALLY REVISED GPCD GOALS.

SO, UM, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF BASED ON THESE STRATEGIES SUGGESTED BY TASK FORCE MEMBERS, THERE'S A ADDITIONAL WATER SAVINGS SUFFICIENT TO REVISE THE GOALS, THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD, THAT'S THE BASIS ON WHICH YOU WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO REVISE THE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED GOALS? THAT'S WHAT WE WERE THINKING, THAT, YES, THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO FIND ADDITIONAL WAYS TO REDUCE OVERALL WATER USAGE BASED ON THESE STRATEGIES, BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS.

AND THEN, UM, SEE HOW THOSE GOALS MAY CHANGE.

SO I THINK PART OF MY COMMENTS AND WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL ALSO IS IF THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS IF, YOU KNOW, THAT LOOKS AT, AND I GUESS WHAT I, I FEEL LIKE WE STILL HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD IS LIKE, WHY WE'RE NOT MEETING THE GOALS.

LIKE WHAT OF YOUR EXISTING STRATEGIES WERE NOT SUFFICIENT? UM, WHAT ARE THE OTHER CONDITIONS THAT CAUSED US TO BE SO FAR OFF AND WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO HOW WE WOULD GET CLOSER TO THOSE ORIGINAL, THE PREVIOUS GOALS, AND HOW WOULD WE GET THERE? UM, YOU KNOW, AS I THINK I, AS FAR AS LIKE ADDIT, JUST THE ADDITIONAL WATER SAVINGS COMING FROM THE TASK FORCE, THAT'S GREAT IF WE HAVE IDEAS AND THEY RESULT IN ADDITIONAL WATER SAVINGS, BUT I'M NOT A WATER CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT AT A UTILITY AND IT'S NOT MY EXPERTISE.

SO I THINK, LIKE MY QUESTION REALLY ON THE GOALS WAS MORE ALSO LIKE, WHAT, WHAT WENT, WHAT WENT ON AND LIKE, WHAT DO YOU GUYS RECOMMEND? SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THAT CAN BE PART OF YOUR ANALYSIS AS WELL.

I'LL INVITE OTHERS ON STAFF TO, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR OTHERS AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE CONSERVATION DIVISION EITHER AS CONSERVATION DIVISION MANAGER KEVIN KLUGE IS HERE, BUT, UM, I WILL SAY AT LEAST MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT WHERE WE WERE AT, WHAT WE ACHIEVED IN THE PAST, AND THEN WERE MADE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THE PAST AND WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY FEASIBLY ACHIEVE IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF GPC EAGLES.

AGAIN, I THINK WE WOULD EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER CHARACTERIZE, UH, SAVINGS AND YIELD ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE'VE TAKEN BACK.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AND THEN WE'LL BRING BACK TO YOU OUR PERSPECTIVES ON, UM, WHERE WE ARE AT THAT TIME, GIVEN KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE'VE, UM, BEEN PRESENTED AND AT LEAST TRY TO PAINT THE PICTURE OF KIND OF WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IN POTENTIALLY CHANGING THOSE GOALS.

AS I RECALL SOME OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GOALS, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPLANATION THAT LIKE, WELL, MAYBE IT WAS HOT OR DRIER WEATHER, WHICH WHERE YOU SEE INCREASED WATER USE, I GUESS 'CAUSE OF OUTDOOR WATERING, LOOKING AT LIKE THAT TIMEFRAME BETWEEN, UM, THE GOALS BEING SET AND NOW.

AND SO, AND I ADDED IN A COMMENT IN HERE, I SAID LIKE, IF THE RESPONSE IS HOT OR DRIER WEATHER, THEN THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY DURING HOT OR DRYER WEATHER? SO, AND I NOTED IN HERE THAT'S KIND OF UNDER A GENERAL COMMENTS, BUT I MEAN, FOR ME, THAT QUESTION STILL STANDS MM-HMM LIKE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY? COULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY MM-HMM.

IN ORDER TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ON THE GOALS.

SO IF Y'ALL CAN GIVE THAT SOME CONSIDERATION AND TO ADD TO THAT, I MEAN, THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS, NOT JUST, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE, THE REEVALUATION OR THE, THE LOOK AT, AT THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN WAS GONNA BE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU'RE SOLELY BASED ON IDEAS FROM THE TASK FORCE.

HMM.

WELL THAT MAY HAVE BEEN OKAY.

I THINK THIS IS GOOD THEN THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

UM, BECAUSE OUR, OUR, AND

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I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS, UM, NOT INSPIRING NECESSARILY, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DIFFICULTY ULTIMATELY ACHIEVING THE PREVIOUS GPCD GOALS.

UM, I THINK AT LEAST MY THOUGHT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL AND GET YOUR, GET THE TASK FORCE'S FEEDBACK AND BE ABLE TO WORK WITH Y'ALL TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE IDEAS, WHAT YOUR IDEAS WOULD BE FOR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY YIELDING ADDITIONAL SAVINGS AND BEING ABLE TO DRIVE THAT GPCD DOWN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES TO DO THAT.

UM, I THINK WE CAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR THOUGHTS INTO AND WHAT YOU'RE SHARING HERE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE, UM, COMING BACK ON AUGUST 13TH AND WE'LL TRY TO PUT TOGETHER SOME PRESENTATION MATERIALS TO KIND OF BETTER EXPLAIN KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE WERE.

DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? WE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ALREADY WITH KEVIN, RIGHT? YEP.

WE HAD THAT MEETING, BUT I'M RECALLING WE WERE IN THAT ROOM AND IT WASN'T, THE RECORDING WAS THE WE WEIRD.

WE HAD SOME IS TECHNICAL ISSUES ON THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING BACK FOR IT.

UM, IT'S AN AUDIO THING.

THE, WE, AGAIN, LOGISTICS ARE VERY CHALLENGING TRYING TO GET A ROOM THAT RECORDS WELL.

UM, SO WE HAD SOME DIFFICULTY WITH THE AUDIO.

THAT MEETING THOUGH, I THINK WAS A, A, A GREAT RECAP OF KIND OF THE UTILITIES WORK.

UM, YEAH.

TO EVALUATE WHAT WE COULD FEASIBLY ACHIEVE FROM WATER LOSS CONTROL, UM, EXISTING OR EXPANDED CONSERVATION PROGRAMMING, INCENTIVES AND REQUIREMENTS.

UM, UH, DCP STAGE ENFORCEMENT, UM, THE RECLAIMED AND ONSITE REUSE PROGRAMS, ALL OF THOSE PROJECTED SAVINGS WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE GOALS THAT WERE, UM, PROPOSED AND ARE CURRENTLY INCLUDED IN THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN.

THAT, THAT WAS, SORRY, WAS THAT THE APRIL 25TH MEETING THAT KEVIN DID THAT PRESENTATION? I THINK SO, YEP.

YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE I GAVE BIRTH .

YEAH, IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

SO BUT THAT, THAT'S WHERE TALKED ABOUT KIND OF, I MEAN, REALLY GOT INTO SOME OF THE, THE, UM, HOW OUR TAR, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.

OUR AVERAGE, SORRY, MY WORDS ARE NOT WORKING.

THE AVERAGE GPCD AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

, UM, HOW WE GOT IT, IT WAS HIGHER THAN LAST TIME AND MAYBE IT WAS SOME OF THE FACTORS WERE AND STUFF.

SO APRIL 25TH IS A GOOD, GOOD THING TO REVIEW.

AND IT SAYS THERE'S PLAY THERE.

SAYS THAT THERE'S VIDEO.

IS IT JUST AUDIO THERE? I THINK THERE IS VIDEO.

IT JUST WASN'T LIVE.

LIKE IT WASN'T LIVE BEFORE.

OH, OKAY.

RECORDED AND POSTED LATER.

AND THERE IN THAT LITTLE ROOM THERE'S AUDIO AND, AND VIDEO.

IT'S JUST THE AUDIO I THINK AT SOME PARTS IS, UH, A LITTLE CHOPPY.

OH YEAH, I REMEMBER.

'CAUSE WE HAD THE THING, WE WERE MOVING AROUND.

UM, I JUST, WE HAVE 18, 17 MINUTES LEFT, SO WE SHOULD KEEP MOVING.

UM, NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

YOUR SLIDE SAYS QUESTIONS, SO WE GET DONE WITH THAT.

UM, OKAY.

NO MORE QUESTIONS.

UM, WE DID HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, SO, UM, OH, THAT'S GREAT.

UM, DO YOU WANNA MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM? YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO

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THE NEXT ITEM.

UM, WHICH IS, OH, I BURIED MY AGENDA UPDATE ON WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY.

YEP.

UPDATE ON WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY IMPLEMENTATION.

FOCUS ON OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF INDIRECT PORTABLE REUSE, UM, AS AN EMERGENCY SUPPLY STRATEGY.

NOW IT'S RIGHT HERE.

SO, UM, SO MUCH PAPER, I'LL BE GIVING A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR EFFORTS TO IMPLEMENT, UM, WATER SUPPLY STRATEGIES.

IF YOU COULD MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

JUST AS A REMINDER, SINCE, UM, WATERFORD 2018 WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER OF 2018, UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A, A VARIETY OF STRATEGIES, CONSERVATION RIO AND SUPPLY STRATEGIES.

UM, TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS GOING TO

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UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO FINALIZE THE CURRENT PHASE OF OUR A SR PROJECT, AND WE'RE PLANNING TO RETURN TO THE, UM, WATER FORWARD TASK FORCE AS WELL AS WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION IN THE COMING MONTHS WITH AN, UH, ADDITIONAL A SR UPDATE.

SO IF YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, AS I SAID, I'LL BE JUST, I'LL BE FOCUSING ON OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE AS AN EMERGENCY, UH, SUPPLY STRATEGY, UM, AS IT WAS INCLUDED WITHIN WATERFORD 18.

UH, SO NEXT SLIDE.

UH, SO JUST AS A HIGH LEVEL REMINDER OF WHAT INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE IS, UH, INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE IS THE USE OF RECLAIMED WATER FOR POTABLE PURPOSES, UH, BY DISCHARGING TO A WATER SUPPLY SOURCE SUCH AS SURFACE WATER OR GROUNDWATER, THE MIXED RECLAIMED AND NATURAL WATERS THEN RECEIVE ADDITIONAL TREATMENT AT A WATER TREATMENT PLANT BEFORE ENTERING THE DRINKING WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

UH, THERE ARE FIVE INDIRECT PORTABLE REUSE OPERATING FACILITIES IN TEXAS.

THIS LIST IS FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD WEBSITE.

UH, THEY INCLUDE EL PASO, AN IPR FACILITY AT EL PASO WATER UTILITIES, UM, RECHARGING THE HOKU BOLSON AQUIFER SINCE 1985.

SO THE OLDEST, UM, OPERATING IPR FACILITY, UM, ALSO A SURFACE WATER FACILITY AT NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

UH, TARRANT REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT ALSO USES, UM, UH, WETLANDS TO POLISH, RECLAIM WATER AND AUGMENT THE RICHLAND RESERVOIR.

UM, THE CITY OF ABILENE AND THE CITY OF WICHITA FALLS, BOTH HAVE HAD IPR FACILITIES, UM, OPERATING SINCE, UH, THE 20 TEENS.

SEEKING TO PUT INTO PLACE WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS ON A MORE AGGRESSIVE TIMEFRAME, UM, TO BE ABLE TO MEET NEEDS DURING, UH, DROUGHTS WORSE THAN THE DROUGHT OF RECORD.

SO, UM, THIS SLIDE IS DESCRIBING HOW AUSTIN WATER WOULD IMPLEMENT INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE.

UM, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IPR IS AN EMERGENCY WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2018 PLAN.

THIS STRATEGY WOULD ONLY BE UTILIZED, UM, OR OPERATED WHEN COMBINED STORAGE OF LAKES TRAVIS AND BUCHANAN REACHED 400,000 ACRE FEET THAT'S LOWER THAN EMERGENCY LEVELS, UM, WHICH ARE TRIGGERED AT 600,000 ACRE FEET OF COMBINED STORAGE AND IS ALSO LOWER THAN, UM, ANY COMBINED STORAGE LEVEL THAT WE HAVE, UH, SEEN HISTORICALLY.

UH, THE STRATEGY WOULD USE LADY BIRD LAKE AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER AND CONVEY HIGHLY TREATED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EFFLUENT TO ULRICH WATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR USE IN SUPPLEMENTING DRINKING WATER SUPPLIES.

UM, SO AS WE'VE CURRENTLY CONCEPTUALIZED THIS STRATEGY, UM, UH, WASTEWATER EFFLUENT FROM SAR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WOULD GO THROUGH SIDESTREAM UH, TREATMENT FACILITIES, UH, THAT BOX OR THE CIRCLE THAT YOU SEE AS NUMBER ONE IPR ADVANCED TREATMENT TO BE TREATED, UM, UH, TO TYPE ONE RECLAIM WATER STANDARDS AND THEN RECEIVE ADDITIONAL TREATMENT ON TOP OF THAT.

UM, THEN THE WATER WOULD BE CONVEYED TO LADY BIRD LAKE, UM, UPSTREAM OF LONGHORN DAM.

UM, AND THEN JUST DOWNSTREAM OF TOM MILLER DAM, WE WOULD HAVE A NEW INTAKE AND PUMP STATION THAT WOULD PULL WATER FROM LADY BIRD LAKE TO ULRICH WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, WHERE IT WOULD BE TREATED TO POTABLE DRINKING WATER STANDARDS.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE CITY'S, UH, WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

THE STRATEGY WOULD, UM, BE, WOULD BE TURNED ON AT 400,000 ACRE FEET OF COMBINED STORAGE, AND IT WOULD BE USED FOR THE SHORTEST, UH, AMOUNT OF TIME POSSIBLE.

UM, WE HAD SAID, I THINK IN THE PLAN THAT WE WOULD TURN THAT STRATEGY BACK OFF WHEN WE HAD, UM, UH, GONE BACK UP ABOVE, ABOVE 400,000 ACRE FEET.

AT LEAST THAT'S HOW IT'S CONCEPTUALIZED IN THE MODELING RIGHT NOW.

AND WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT YES.

QUESTION UHHUH .

SO IN THIS, UM, MODEL, IT'S NOT LOOKING TO PUT IT THROUGH LIKE ANY KIND OF WETLANDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE GOING INTO LADY BIRD LAKE.

IT WOULD JUST BE FILTERED THROUGH MORE INDUSTRIAL IN THE, THE TREATMENT PLANT, OR IT WOULD GO THROUGH, UH, THE, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE CONVENTIONAL MM-HMM.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS, AND THEN IT WOULD GO THROUGH AN ADVANCED, UM, SIDESTREAM UH, TREATMENT PROCESS TO, UM, BEFORE IT WAS, UH, DISCHARGED INTO LADY BIRD LAKE.

THERE'S NO WETLANDS INVOLVED IN THIS EMERGENCY STRATEGY.

NO.

THIS WOULD BE SOME, A STRATEGY THAT WE WOULD BE, UM, THAT WE'RE

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SO, UM, MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT OF THIS, UH, PREVIOUSLY, THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE CITY OF AUSTIN DROUGHT TRIGGERS, UM, WHEN THE, UH, THESE DCP STAGES WOULD COME ON AND THEN SHOWS THE IPR OPERATIONAL TRIGGER AT, UM, 400,000 ACRE FEET OF COMBINED STORAGE.

UH, WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATED TO REACH 400,000 ACRE FEET OF COMBINED STORAGE THROUGH THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

AND BASED ON MORE UPDATED MODELING THAT WE'VE DONE, UM, WITH OUR, UH, HYDROLOGIST, OUR CONSULTING HYDROLOGIST, DR. RICHARD HOFF POWER, UH, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE REACHING, UM, THAT COMBINED STORAGE LEVEL THROUGH AT LEAST 2028.

AND THAT'S LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY, UM, VERY SEVERE DROUGHT CONDITIONS.

SO, UM, JUST AS A QUICK PROGRESS UPDATE AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THIS STRATEGY, UM, AUSTIN WATER, THIS IS, THIS LANGUAGE IS GONNA SOUND CONFUSING.

UM, WE HAVE AN INTERNAL INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE TASK FORCE THAT'S PROGRESSING ON SEVERAL PROJECT TASKS.

UM, WE USE THE PHRASE TASK FORCE BECAUSE THERE IS A, IT'S TERMINOLOGY THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH, UM, UH, UH, KIND OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PARLANCE.

UM, THIS, UH, INTERNAL TASK FORCE INCLUDES STAFF, UM, FROM THE OPERATIONS, UH, PROGRAM AREA ENGINEERING, OUR SYSTEMS PLANNING DIVISION, AND WATER RESOURCES TEAM, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE.

THAT'S WHAT PIO STANDS FOR, AS WELL AS, UM, GOVERNMENT RELATIONS STAFF AND KEY EXECUTIVES.

UM, SOME OF THE, UH, KEY PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE INCLUDE, UH, INCLUDES THE DECISION ON OUR WATER SUPPLY SOURCE, UM, FOR THIS STRATEGY.

UM, IT WAS DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, WELL, I'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.

UM, UH, AS SAR AS OUR WATER SUPPLY SOURCE.

UM, AND THEN STAFF HAVE ALSO DEVELOPED SCOPES FOR FURTHER ROTATION LIST CONSULTANT SERVICES TO SUPPORT IMPLEMENTATION OF VARIOUS PROJECT COMPONENTS.

AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON CONSULTANT PROCUREMENT FOR, UM, THOSE SCOPES.

SO, UM, I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF, UM, THE WATER SUPPLY SOURCE FOR THIS STRATEGY.

UM, WE HAD BEEN GOING THROUGH A DECISION MAKING PROCESS, UM, TO DECIDE BETWEEN WALNUT, UM, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR SOUTH AUSTIN REGIONAL.

AND, UM, ULTIMATELY SAR HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE SOURCE OF TREATED EFFLUENT FOR EMERGENCY IPR IMPLEMENTATION.

UM, THE CURRENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS TO CONSTRUCT AND SEPARATELY PERMIT, UH, SIDESTREAM INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE TREATMENT FACILITIES TO FURTHER TREAT THIS EFFLUENT BEFORE IT'S DISCHARGED INTO LADY BIRD LAKE.

UM, THIS WAS A KEY DECISION FOR US, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL, UH, PERMITTING TIMEFRAMES OR PERMITTING, UH, DUE DATES THAT, UH, WERE COMING UP.

UM, SOUTH AUSTIN REGIONAL, UM, HAD ITS OWN PER, UH, PERMITTING PROCESS, UM, AS WELL AS WALNUT.

UM, AND SO WE'VE MADE THIS DECISION AND ARE NOW GOING TO BE WORKING WITH A CON, OUR CONSULTANT, WHO IS, UM, CURRENTLY WORKING WITH US ON WATER FORWARD UPDATES PLUMBER, UH, TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR A, UH, UH, PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THESE SIDESTREAM IPR TREATMENT FACILITIES THAT WE'RE PLANNING, UM, TO, UM, SUBMIT TO TCQ FOR THEIR REVIEW IN THE WINTER TIMEFRAME.

PERMITTING, UM, UH, RELATED TO GATHERING INFORMATION AND, UH, DEVELOPING INFORMATION RELATED TO OUR, UM, SIDESTREAM WASTEWATER EFFLUENT TREATMENT FACILITIES.

UH, SO, UH, TO SUMMARIZE OUR PLAN CONSULTANT SUPPORT, WE'LL BE GETTING, UH, SUPPORT THROUGH, UM, OUR ENGINEERING ROTATION LIST TO PROVIDE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, DESIGN CRITERIA AND TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE INTAKE AND PUMP STATION FACILITIES.

THAT WOULD BE, UM, PULLING THE WATER FROM LADYBIRD LAKE TO ULRICH WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

UM, ALSO FOR THE RECLAIM TRANSMISSION MAINE THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO CONVEY, UM, WATER FROM THE, UM, IPR SIDESTREAM TREATMENT FACILITIES AT SAR, UM, TO LADYBIRD LAKE.

UM, THAT RECLAIM TRANSMISSION MAIN IS MULTI BENEFICIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT OUTSIDE OF EMERGENCY DROUGHT SITUATIONS, IT WOULD ALSO, UM, BE USED TO, UM, UH, UH, UM, AS A PART OF OUR CENTRALIZED RECLAIM SYSTEM TO CONVEY RECLAIM WATER TO CUSTOMERS.

UM, AND WE'LL ALSO BE GETTING ASSISTANCE, UM, FROM OUR CONSULTANT PLUMBERS I MENTIONED, TO HELP US WITH

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UM, ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT OUR ROTATION LIST CONSULTANTS WILL BE PREPARING OVER THE COURSE OF THE FALL AND WINTER TIMEFRAME WILL, UM, ROLL UP INTO A DESIGN BUILD PROJECT.

THE, THAT'S THE CURRENT PLAN.

UM, AND THAT DESIGN BUILD PROJECT, UM, WOULD BE, UM, OUR AVENUE FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS PROJECT, GOING THROUGH THE FULL IPR PROJECT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

BUILD APPROACH WAS IDENTIFIED.

UH, AND THIS SLIDE IS SUMMARIZING OUR TIMELINE HERE THROUGH FALL 2024 IS WHEN WE'LL BE DEVELOPING, UH, THAT SCHEMATIC DESIGN, TECHNICAL CRITERIA AND TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS.

UH, WINTER 20 24, 20 25, UM, WE WOULD BEGIN OUR DESIGN BUILD PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

I ALSO MENTIONED WE ARE HOPING TO SUBMIT A PERMIT THROUGH TCQ, UH, SUMMER 2025, UM, PENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL.

WE WOULD BE ISSUING OUR DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT.

UM, AND THEN IN 2028 WOULD BE OUR TARGET FOR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION OF IPR, UM, OF THE IPR PROJECTS CONSTRUCTION.

AND, UM, I REALIZE WE ONLY HAVE SIX MINUTES LEFT, BUT IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE ARE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

YES, SIR.

UM, MARISA, IS THIS INTENDED, ONCE IT'S PUT, ONCE IT'S PUT TOGETHER AN OPERATIONAL AND FINALIZED STUFF, IS IT INTENDED TO BE A ONLY DURING DEEP DROUGHT AND USE THEN AND KIND OF IDLE OTHERWISE? UH, YES.

SO THE PIECE THAT WOULD BE IDLE WOULD BE THOSE ADVANCED TREATMENT FACILITIES, THE IPR TREATMENT FACILITIES.

THE RECLAIMING, LIKE I MENTIONED, WOULD BE USED ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS FOR, UM, CONVEYING WATER TO CUSTOMERS.

AND THEN, UH, THE INTAKE AND THE PUMP STATION ON LADY BIRD LAKE, THAT'S A PART OF A STRA, ANOTHER STRATEGY THAT WAS INCLUDED IN WATER FOUR 18 TO CAPTURE LOCAL INFLOWS TO LADY BIRD LAKE DURING, UH, WET TIMES OR POTENTIALLY AVERAGE CONDITIONS, WE COULD ALSO PULL OUT ADDITIONAL WATER FROM, UH, LADY BIRD LAKE TO SUPPLEMENT DRINKING WATER.

SO I, I'M, I MISSED THE, THE, THE LAST, UM, UM, MEETING, UH, OR THE, THE SPECIAL MEETING.

SO HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN THERE ARE GIVEN CONCERNS OR SOMEBODY HAS LOOKED AT THE CONCERNS ON PFAS COMING FROM SAR, UM, AND POSSIBLE PHOSPHORUS THAT CAN, UM, TRIGGER CYTOXIN BLOOMS, UM, IN, IN LADY BIRD LAKE.

SO, UM, PFAS IS A CONSIDERATION THAT WE'LL BE EVALUATING WITH OUR CONSULTANT, UM, UH, AND DOING FURTHER STUDY ON.

IT'S ALSO A CONSIDERATION THAT WE'RE STILL EVALUATING GET OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

UM, JUST TO CLARIFY THOUGH, UM, WE, THE AUSTIN WATER HAS TESTED OUR DRINKING WATER AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT WE WERE NON-DETECT ON THE DRINKING WATER SIDE.

THIS IS A QUESTION RELATED TO THE WASTEWATER SIDE.

CORRECT.

I'M JUST CLARIFYING BECAUSE WASTEWATER YOU GONNA TURN INTO DRINK.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

I'M JUST CLARIFYING BECAUSE I'VE, I, THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES.

SO THE REASON PFAS IS A CONSIDERATION HERE IS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE USING, UM, WASTEWATER EFFLUENT.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL STILL BE EVALUATING, UM, ON THE, UM, SANO TOIN SIDE.

SO, UM, UH, AUSTIN WATER HAD, UM, HIRED CONSULTANTS TO HELP US EVALUATE, TREAT OUR TREATMENT PROCESSES, AND, UM, TO SEE IF WE CAN EFFECTIVELY REMOVE CYTOTOXINS AND THE RESULTS OF THAT WORK.

BUT TO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT OUR TREATMENT PROCESSES CAN, UM, EFFECTIVELY TREAT THOSE CYTOTOXINS AND THAT THERE ARE PROCESSES, UM, IN PLACE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED TO, UM, ADJUST THE AMOUNT OF CHEMICALS THAT WE USE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ANO TOIN THAT MAY BE PRESENT.

SO WE HAVE A PROTOCOL FOR, UM, SO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS POTENTIAL PHOSPHORUS COMING FROM THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN THAT CAN BE ADDITIONAL TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

MM-HMM, , ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS WHY DESIGN BUILD AND FOR DESIGN BUILD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACTOR, PART OF THE TEAM TO DO WITH, IS THAT THE CONSIDERATION? IS IT A A TIME ISSUE OR THE, UH, SO THE PRIMARY CONSIDERATION WAS THE TIME, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, JUST US TRYING TO GET THIS PROJECT IMPLEMENTED IN A MUCH A QUICKER TIMEFRAME.

EVEN THREE YEARS IS FOR A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE IS, IS VERY AGGRESSIVE.

UM, AND SO TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT, A DESIGN

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UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE CURRENT PLAN.

I WILL SAY THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE FALL TIMEFRAME, AS WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR ROTATION LIST CONSULTANTS, I THINK THAT'LL GIVE US A BETTER IDEA OF, UM, POTENTIALLY CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME WHILE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAMES AND WILL HELP TO INFORM THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT WE ULTIMATELY GO WITH.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANNA ADD TO THAT.

SO ONE OTHER OPTION THAT YOU MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IS WHAT THEY CALL THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD.

AND THAT GIVES THE CITY, UH, AN OPTION THAT THEY CAN STILL GO WITH, UM, WITH DESIGN, BUILD BUILD IF THEY DECIDE TO.

UM, BUT YOU'RE USING THE EXPERTISE OF THE CONTRACTOR, UM, AND PAYING IT, PAYING FOR IT IN THE BEGINNING, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

, ABSOLUTELY.

I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING OUTTA TIME.

THIS IS A QUICK QUESTION AND IT'S A NON-ENGINEER QUESTION, SO YOU'RE GONNA LOVE IT.

UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT AND MONEY TO BUILD THE SIDESTREAM ADVANCED TREATMENT SEGMENT OF THIS, AND WE'RE ADDING THAT ON TO OUR TREATMENT PLAN AT SAR, UM, AND THEN IT'S GONNA SIT IDLE IF WE'RE NOT IN EMERGENCIES, HOPEFULLY WE'RE NOT IN EMERGENCIES TOO OFTEN, WHY DON'T WE USE IT TO THEN IN INCREASE THE QUALITY OF OUR DISCHARGE, OUR EFFLUENT INTO THE COLORADO RIVER NORMALLY? UM, I THINK THIS WOULD BE, WELL, THESE FACILITIES WOULD BE SIZED FOR THIS FIRST, THIS, THESE FACILITIES WOULD BE SIZED FOR THE POTENTIAL YIELD OF THE STRATEGY, UM, OF WHICH IS A, A SMALLER YIELD THAN THE FULL AMOUNT OF AFFLUENT THAT'S COMING FROM OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AS IS ABOUT 20 MGD.

UM, AND IT WOULD BE JUST BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT THOSE DRINKING WATER FACILITIES.

SO IF WE WERE TO TREAT THAT ENTIRE, UM, A VOLUME, UH, COMING FROM THE PLANT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A, A LARGER FACILITY AT GREATER COST.

UM, AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS, UM, RELATED TO THE, UM, TREATMENT PLANT PROCESSES THAT I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO, UM, JUST RIGHT HERE.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE VOLUME ITSELF WAS A, A BIG DRIVER.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT BEING THAT THIS WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE USED FOR THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME FOR A SMALLER VOLUME.

I GUESS I CAN, YEAH, THAT MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD.

I GUESS I, MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD JUST BE LIKE, WELL, COULD WE DO A LITTLE BIT AT A HIGHER TREATMENT LEVEL THAN REDUCE THE EFFLUENT AT THE LOWER QUALITY LEVEL FROM THE, YOU KNOW, JUST USE IT.

IT.

I MEAN, I, I WOULD SAY THAT CERTAINLY BY ADDING A SIZE STRING TREATMENT FACILITY, IT GIVES US OPTIONALITY MM-HMM.

TO DO OTHER THINGS.

SO, I MEAN, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST NOT AT A PLACE WHERE WE CAN REALLY COMMIT OTHER THAN, I MEAN, THIS STRATEGY IS FOR EMERGENCY CASES AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF IT COULD HELP, UM, ADVANCE OTHER OPTIONALITY.

UM, I JUST, I WOULD JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING.

I NOTICED WHAT I HAD A, OH, SORRY, MADELINE, GO AHEAD.

UM, KIND OF GOING ON THE, THE PFAS QUESTION, I REMEMBER IN THE LAST WORKING GROUP MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, YOU SAID THAT, UM, THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING REGULATED FOR WERE NOT DETECTED, BUT AN ADDITIONAL ONE WAS DETECTED IN THE DRINKING WATER, OR THOSE ADDITIONAL ONES BEING EVALUATED AS WELL, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED FEDERALLY YET TO BE TREATED FOR YET.

UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE EVALUATING KIND OF A FULL PANEL OF POTENTIAL, UM, CONSTITUENTS.

Y YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK I WOULD SUMMARIZE, AND I'M NOT A-P-A-S-P-F-O-A EXPERT, UM, I, I THINK SPECIFICALLY AS A UTILITY, WE WERE ABSOLUTELY ENGAGED, UM, IAN EVALUATING THE IMPACTS OF, YOU KNOW, THE VARIOUS PFAS CHEMICALS ON OUR TREATMENT PROCESSES.

UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF IPR AS A STRATEGY, WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO TAKE ON THE, THE NUANCE OF INTRODUCING WASTEWATER, YOU KNOW, INTO THAT PROCESS.

SO, UM, WHILE I DON'T HAVE AN EXPLICIT ANSWER FOR YOU THERE, UM, WE WILL BE, UM, CAUTIOUS IN ALL REGARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

UM, THANKS YOU GUYS.