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[CALL TO ORDER]
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION.THIS IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024 AT 6:00 PM WE ARE IN AUSTIN CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, ROOM 1001.
I WILL START WITH A CALL TO BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS.
HANK SMITH, CHAIR, I'M PRESIDENT.
UH, VICE CHAIR BETSY GREENBERG.
PARLIAMENTARIAN ALEJANDRA FLORES.
UH, DAVID F IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? UNMUTE? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU HERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAM FLOYD HERE.
AND COMMISSIONER LONNIE STERN.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE A PERSON IN DISTRICT NINE THAT STILL VACANCY.
THEY MAYBE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEIR REQUIREMENTS.
YEAH, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT.
SO WE HAVE NO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE ALREADY CALLED THE ORDER.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE AUDIENCE BESIDES SPEAKING ON GENERAL ITEMS? SEEING NONE, UH, I'LL CALL
[Consent Agenda]
THE ORDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.UH, ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION FROM AUGUST 20TH, 2024.
ITEM TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING REZONING C 14 20 24 DASH 0 1 0 1 SCOFIELD FARMS REZONING, REZONING FROM GR RCO TO MF TWO.
AND BOTH OF THOSE TWO GR M MU UH, THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT'LL BE CALLED AT THE SAME TIME AS ITEM THREE C 1485.
UM, AND IT IS FOR THE SAME ADDRESS, 1603 AND 1605 WEST PARMER LANE.
IT IS TO AMEND A PREVIOUSLY UNRECORDED RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO REMOVE THE DENSITY LIMITATION OF 15 UNITS PER FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT IS THE DISCUSSION ITEM.
ITEM FOUR IS ALSO DISCUSSION C 14 20 24 0 9 1, FUTURE PROJECT DISTRICT 10.
IT IS A-G-R-M-U-L-O-M-U TO CS.
ONE STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING THAT AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
ITEM FIVE IS A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TERMINATION, C 14 DASH ZERO FIVE DASH 0 51, RCT 84 20 LONGVIEW, UH, RC TERMINATION.
AND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE? NO CHAIR.
SO ITEM FIVE WILL REMAIN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT ONE? SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES DISCUSSION FOR ITEMS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR AND CONSENT APPROVAL FOR ITEM FIVE.
BETSY GREENBERG, BRUCE
AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? AARON? GIVE US A SECOND.
UM, ALL THOSE, IN FACT, WE HAD A VOTE.
SO WE WILL NOW GO TO ITEM TWO.
AND AGAIN, ITEM TWO AND THREE WILL, WILL GO TOGETHER 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE SAME TRACT OF LAND.
ITEM TWO IS C 14 20 24 DASH 0 1 0 1.
SCHOFIELD FARMS REZONING, REZONING FROM GRCO AND MF TWO TO GRMU.
AND THEN ITEM THREE IS C 1485.
1 49 0.702 RCA AS A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT FOR THE SAME ADDRESS.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? YES.
COMMISSIONER SHERRY TIS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS YOU STATED.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS KC 14 2 2 4 0 101 SCOFIELD FARMS REZONING.
IT'S LOCATED AT 1603 AND 1605 WEST PALMER LANE AND 1 2 4 2 4 SCOFIELD FARMS DRIVE.
THEIR REQUEST IS FROM GRCO AND MF TWO TO GRMU AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDS GRMU COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MIXED USE COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.
SO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION CONSISTS OF TWO TRACKS THAT MAKE UP 7.6 ACRES OF LAND.
THAT TRACK ONE IS A 1.85 ACRE UNDEVELOPED AREA THAT IS ZONED GRCO AND THAT RUNS ONTO WEST PALMER.
LANE TRACK TWO IS A 5.75 ACRE LOT THAT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE WITH DETENTION POND AND SURFACE PARKING THAT IS ZONED MF TWO THAT ACCESS ACCESSES.
SCOFIELD FARMS DRIVE THE LOT TO THE NORTH AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PARER LANE IN SCOFIELD DRIVE IS ZONE GR AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A FINANCIAL SERVICES USE FURTHER TO THE NORTH ACROSS WEST PALMER LANE.
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A RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER WITH A FOOD SALES USE THAT IS ZONE GR TO THE SOUTH.THERE IS SF TWO ZONED AREA THAT IS UNDEVELOPED THE LOTS TO THE EAST ACROSS SCOFIELD FARMS DRIVE ARE DEVELOPED WITH ASSISTED LIVING USE ZONED LO AND A PRIMARY PUBLIC SCHOOL THAT IS ZONED MF TWO AND SF ONE.
THE LOTS TO THE WEST CONTAIN DUPLEX RESIDENCES ZONED SF THREE.
IN THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO REZONE BOTH TRACKS TO GRMU TO ALLOW FOR A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR G COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MIXED JUICE COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING.
THE PROPERTY MEETS THE INTENT OF THE DISTRICT AS IT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR MAJOR HIGH ARTERIAL HIGHWAY AND A COLLECTOR ROADWAY.
THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE ZONING DESIGNATIONS TO THE NORTHEAST AND WEST.
GRMU ZONING WILL PERMIT THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP THIS SITE WITH A MIXTURE OF USES, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL USES THAT WILL PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS AREA.
IN SERVICES IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY, THERE IS ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT IN THE VICINITY AS THERE ARE CAPITAL MESS OR METRO BUS ROUTES AND STOPS ALONG METRIC BOULEVARD TO THE WEST.
THE SITE UNDER CONSIDERATION IS ADJACENT TO THE PALM LANE ACTIVITY CORRIDOR AND IS WITHIN 0.5 MILES UP FROM A RECREATION AREA, WALNUT CREEK METROPOLITAN PARK.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
IN THE SPIRIT OF KEEPING THINGS MOVING, THE APPLICANT AGREES TOTALLY WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S MODERNIZING THE ZONING AT THIS INTERSECTION FOR MORE HOUSING AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT FROM THAT? WE'LL HEAR FROM SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION.
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE DEAN OSTER.
ACTUALLY CHAIR, WE HAD ONE VIRTUAL SPEAKER IN FAVOR.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE B BRENDAN IS NOT HERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO DIANE KERNS.
AND DIANE IS GONNA BE RECEIVING THREE MINUTES OF DONATED TIME FROM DEAN OSTER WHEEL.
DIANE, YOU WILL HAVE NINE MINUTES.
WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE US AT? THE D HERE? YES.
IF YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU GET STARTED.
UM, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO LET MY SON, DEAN OSTER, WHILE SPEAK FIRST.
HE HAS A STATEMENT THAT I WILL TAKE THE REST OF HIS TIME.
WE HAVE DEAN DONATING TIME TO YOU.
CORRECT? UM, WE GENERALLY DON'T HAVE THEM DONATE TIME AND TALK, SO IF YOU WANT SO MIND TOTAL IS STILL YEAH.
SO THEN I, I WILL USE MY TIME TO READ THE STATEMENT.
FOR DEAN OSTERWEIL AND DEAN OSTERWEIL WILL STAND NEXT TO ME.
I JUST, I CAN'T HAVE HIM DONATE TIME AND TALK BOTH COM COMPLETELY FINE.
DEAN IS, HAS MULTIPLE DISABILITIES.
WHICH IS WHY I'M GOING TO READ A STATEMENT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO
PUT IT INTO A COMMUNICATION DEVICE SO HE COULD, IT COULD SPEAK FOR HIM.
UM, I'M GOING TO READ A STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF DEAN OAL AND THEN I'LL READ MY STATEMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE, UM, YOU HAVE AN EARLIER VERSION IN, UH, THE DOCUMENTATION.
MY NAME IS DEAN OSTERWEIL AND I LIVE AT 1705 SHAG BARK TRAIL.
I HAVE MULTIPLE DISABILITIES INCLUDING CEREBRAL PALSY AND BLINDNESS.
I HAVE ASKED MY MOTHER TO READ THIS STATEMENT AND THEN I DEFER THE REST OF MY TIME TO HER.
I USE A WHEELCHAIR FOR MOBILITY.
SIDEWALKS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BECAUSE IT KEEPS US SEPARATE AND SAFE FROM MOTOR VEHICLES AND BICYCLES.
THE STREET I LIVE ON HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND NO SIDEWALKS, AND IT IS NOT VERY WIDE.
IF I WANT TO LEAVE MY HOUSE AND TRAVEL DOWN MY STREET IN MY WHEELCHAIR TO GO TO WALNUT CREEK OR TO RESTAURANTS AND STORES, I RISK GETTING INJURED BECAUSE I MUST DRIVE MY WHEELCHAIR IN THE STREET.
ALONG WITH MOTOR VEHICLES, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE WAY FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE I DRIVE SLOW AND I AM BLIND.
THERE ARE NO STREETLIGHTS ON MY STREET.
IF I AM OUT PAST DUSK, THE RISK
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OF ME GETTING HIT IN MY WHEELCHAIR GROW EXPONENTIALLY BECAUSE NO ONE CAN SEE ME.STREET LIGHTS MAKE IT SAFE FOR EVERYONE AND I THINK THEY SHOULD BE INSTALLED ON SHAG BARK TRAIL.
I DO NOT WANT MORE TRAFFIC IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OR ON MY STREET UNLESS THERE ARE SIDEWALKS AND STREETLIGHTS BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE IT EVEN MORE DANGEROUS FOR ME TO LEAVE MY HOUSE.
I DO NOT WANT THIS APARTMENT BUILDING TO BE BUILT ON MY STREET UNLESS CITY GOVERNMENT DOES THEIR PART TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR ME, MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS DIANE KERNS.
I LIVE AT 1705 SHAG BARK TRAIL.
UM, I LIVE THERE WITH MY HUSBAND, MY THREE KIDS, TWO DOGS AND A CAT.
UM, IT'S BORDERED BY RUNNING BIRD LANE ON THE WEST IN SCHOFIELD, UH, SCHOFIELD FARMS DRIVE ON THE EAST.
I DO WANT TO CLARIFY A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE FACT THAT, AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S SHAG BARK TRAIL BECAUSE THAT IS ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY.
IT, IT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DUPLEXES, BUT THERE ARE ALSO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
SO I JUST WANT THAT CLARIFIED.
SHAG BARK TRAIL IS CUT THROUGH STREET.
UH, CARS OFTEN SPEED SIGNIFICANTLY WELL ABOVE THE 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT, ESPECIALLY DURING PEAK TRAFFIC HOURS.
WE ALSO HAVE SIT, UH, SCHOOL BUSES THAT GO INTO RIVER OAKS ELEMENTARY THAT GO DOWN SHAG BARK TRAIL.
IN THE FIVE YEARS WE HAVE LIVED ON THE STREET, THREE CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE WERE HIT.
UM, IN THE DOCUMENTATION, I NOTE THE A PD REPORTS JULY 11TH, 2024.
SO NOT TOO LONG AGO, A CAR SPEEDING DOWN, RUNNING BIRD LANE TURNED RIGHT ONTO SHAG BARK TRAIL AT GOING SUCH A SPEED, IT HIT A CAR FLIPPED OVER ONTO ITS ROOF.
FORTUNATELY, NO ONE WAS INJURED REMARKABLY, UM, AND THERE WAS A, AN ESTATE SALE GOING ON, WHICH IS WHY THE DRIVER WAS DISTRACTED.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT, AT SOME OF THE STUFF ON THE CURB.
SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
SO AGAIN, LOTS OF PEOPLE IN THE STREET, NO SIDEWALKS, AND A SPEEDING CAR THAT FLIPPED OVER ONTO, ITS ONTO ITS ROOF.
SHAG BARK TRAIL WAS DEVELOPED IN THE 1970S BEFORE THE AREA WAS PART OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
MANY CARS ARE PARKED ON THE STREET THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
KIDS AND ADULTS WALK THEIR DOGS RIDE THEIR BIKES DOWN THE MIDDLE OF OUR, OF OUR STREET AS A MEANS TO GET FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SCHOOL OR TO WALNUT CREEK PARK.
OUR STREET DEAD ENDS INTO RIVER OAKS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS ON SCHOFIELD FARMS DRIVE.
AND I I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THAT MAP UP.
I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD REPRESENTATION.
UM, SO THAT SCHOOL IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SO PARENTS VISITING THE SCHOOL SOMETIMES PARK ON SHAG BARK TRAIL IF THE STREET PARKING ON SCHOFIELD FARMS DRIVE IS FULL.
AND THEN THEY'D NEED TO CROSS OVER SCHOFIELD, UM, FARMS DRIVE TO GET TO THE SCHOOL.
THERE ARE NO SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS THAT FLASH A REDUCED SPEED LIMIT DURING DROP OFF AND PICK UP HOURS.
MY ASSUMPTION IS BECAUSE, UM, CEDAR MAN DRIVE AND SCHOFIELD FARMS, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT RED LINE THAT THOSE TWO STREETS WERE RECENTLY CONNECTED, SO IT HAS IS NOT EVEN BEEN A YEAR SINCE THEY WERE CONNECTED.
UM, SHAG BARK TRAILS ARE ALREADY A BUSY STREET LACKING SAFETY STANDARDS LIKE SIDEWALKS AND STREET STREETLIGHTS THAT MOST NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN ARE AFFORDED.
UM, WHEN THE TWO STREETS THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE WERE CONNECTED, UM, DUE TO THE MILESTONE FOXFIELD SUBDIVISION, NOT A SINGLE CROSSWALK ACROSS SCOFIELD FARMS DRIVE WAS INSTALLED.
UM, ALTHOUGH IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.
SO NOW NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE CARS SPEEDING ON SHAG BARK TRAIL, WE HAVE CARS SPEEDING ON CEDAR BEND DRIVE AND SCHOFIELD FARMS. SO ADDING 340 UNITS ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITHOUT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, NOR A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS BEYOND IRRESPONSIBLE.
I FEAR FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN AND THE OTHER CHILDREN THAT USE OUR STREET.
IF AN ADDITIONAL NET TRIPS OF 1,505 PER DAY ARE ADDED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE TRAFFICKED IMPACT ANALYSIS DETERMINATION WORKSHEET NOTED THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE DRIVEWAY PROPOSED FOR THIS 340 UNIT BUILDING.
AND THAT DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE ON SCOFIELD FARMS DRIVE AND THERE ARE NO DRIVEWAYS PLANNED FOR PALMER LANE.
SO THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION AND
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I WOULD LIKE THEM TO GET ANSWERED.UM, AND I, I DID HAVE A MEETING, UM, WITH THE FOLKS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ABOUT PEAK HOUR VOLUME.
UM, THEY ASSURED ME THAT BECAUSE THE PEAK HOUR VOLUME IS LOW ENOUGH, IT DOESN'T MERIT AN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHICH AS A MOTHER AND A RESIDENT, I DON'T REALLY CARE.
UM, NUMBER TWO, UM, DEVELOPERS REQUESTING A ZONING ZONING CHANGE FROM GRMU, UM, WHICH TYPICALLY, I'M SORRY TO GR, RMU, WHICH TYPICALLY REQUIRES LOCATIONS ACCESSIBLE FOR MAT FOR MAJOR TRAFFIC WAYS.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'M WONDERING WHY THERE IS NOT A SECONDARY DRIVEWAY FROM PALMER LANE.
UH, NUMBER THREE, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT'S IN ORDINANCE 9 8 0 5 1 4 C, WHICH RESTRICTS TRAFFIC GENERATION TO 2000 TROOPS PER DAY OR LESS, UM, IS REQUE THERE? THE REQUEST IS TO REMOVE THAT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
I REQUEST THAT IT NOT BE REMOVED.
IF THEY'RE SAYING THAT ONLY 1,575, UM, TRIPS PER DAY ARE PLANNED, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT IF YOU APPROVE THE REMOVAL OF THIS CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UM, THAT SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN TO THAT PLOT OF LAND, WHICH WOULD, UM, INCREASE THE, THE NUMBER OF TRIPS, UM, GREATER THAN THE 1575 THAT THEY'RE SAYING.
NUMBER FOUR, UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE RED LINE, UM, COPY OF THE RESTRICTION COVENANT, UM, C 14 DASH 85 DASH 49 7 OH.
UM, REGARDING THE DENSITY LIMITATION.
SO A AGAIN, THIS GOES TO WHY THERE IS NOT A DRIVEWAY ON PALMER LANE, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, OR I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW IF THE, UM, THAT RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE STRUCK AND IT WOULD THEREBY ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THERE TO BE A DRIVEWAY IN PALMER LANE.
NUMBER FIVE, UM, UH, MO ON THE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THERE IS THE MILESTONE COMMUNITY FOXFIELD, WHICH THIS GOOGLE MAPS PICTURE DOESN'T REFLECT THE, THE STREETS STREETS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT IN THE TWO STREETS, CEDAR BEND DRIVE AND SCHOFIELD FARMS HAVE BEEN CONNECTED.
I WANNA SAY THERE'S ABOUT 10 HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY BEEN BUILT OF THE 137 PLANNED.
I'M WONDERING HOW MANY MINUTES DO I HAVE LEFT? THAT'S TIME.
IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND THAT'S TIME WRAP UP.
GO AHEAD AND WRAP UP REAL QUICK.
SO I JUST, I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC IS ON, ON THE MILESTONE COMMUNITY PLUS THIS, UH, AS A RESIDENT, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.
UM, I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT BIKE LANES.
MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT CROSSWALKS WITH FLASHING LIGHTS, STREET SIGNS, ALL THE APPROPRIATE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO BE IN FRONT OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT DO NOT EXIST.
UM, AND THEN NUMBER SEVEN, JUST IN GENERAL, I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE WE ARE A STREET OF DUPLEXES AND RENTERS, PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND NO ONE WILL SPEAK UP.
WELL, I AM A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNER AND I'M SPEAKING UP AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HEAR US, THAT WE DO NOT WANT THIS UNLESS YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HELP US GET SAFETY, UM, SAFETY ELEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY DIES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M, I'M WELCOME TO ANSWER ANY THANK YOU DIANE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DONALD OSTER WHEEL.
DONALD, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I'M A RESIDENT OF SHAG BARK TRAIL AND, UH, PICKING UP ON A POINT THERE FROM DIANE, UM, WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT FOXFIELD, UH, DEVELOPMENT, AND NOT JUST THAT, THE FACT THAT THOSE ROADS HAVE OPENED UP, WE HAVE PEOPLE ROARING UP SCOFIELD DRIVE NOW, AND A LOT MORE CUT THROUGHS COMING FROM ALL DIRECTIONS CUT.
THEY'RE COMING CUTTING THROUGH FROM LAMAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
JUST THE OPENING UP OF THE AREA HAS GIVEN US A LOT MORE SPEEDERS.
UM, ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO I HAD A, UH, A RETIRED, UM, UH, A PD OFFICER, UH, DO A LITTLE, LITTLE, UM, RADAR GUN TEST.
AND WE COUNTED FOUR CARS GOING 65 MILES AN HOUR ON
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OUR STREET WITHIN ABOUT ONE HOUR.UH, SO THAT WAS KIND OF SCARY.
SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF SIDEWALKS, STREETLIGHTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, NOW YOU ARE A PLANNING COMMISSION.
WELL, IT SEEMS THAT THE CODES DO NOT PLAN FOR MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING AT ONCE.
ONE DEVELOPER APPARENTLY DOES NOT NEED TO, ACCORDING TO, UH, THE LAWYER FOR, UH, THIS DEVELOPER, ONE DEVELOPER NEED NOT FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
SO YOU COULD HAVE MAJOR BUILDINGS BUILT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD AND NO ONE NEEDS TO CONSULT WITH EACH OTHER.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IN FUTURE PLANNING.
UH, SECONDLY, UM, LAST, LAST TIME WE TUNED IN, WE SAW A MEETING HERE.
AND SO, UH, YOUR AV PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO FIGURE THIS OUT BECAUSE THE MEETING WAS BROADCAST AFTER IT WENT TO A PRIVATE MEETING AND THE CAMERAS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TURNED OFF, BUT WE SAW THE WHOLE THING AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT, THAT APARTMENT BUILDING RIGHT ON RICHFIELD RIGHT BY, UH, UH, THE ROSEDALE SCHOOL WHERE ALL OF THEIR TESTIMONY WAS JUST COMPLETELY IGNORED AND YOU GUYS JUST, UH, KIND OF DISMISSED IT AND GOING RIGHT AHEAD.
NO ONE, NO ONE HAD ANYTHING, ANY WORD OF ANY ABOUT ANY OF THE TESTIMONY.
YOU JUST BARRELLED RIGHT AHEAD.
SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN OFF THE CAMERAS SO WE CAN MAYBE NOT SEE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
UM, I HAVE A FURTHER QUESTION.
UM, IF, IF SOMEONE IS KILLED ON SHAG BARK TRAIL, I WONDER IF YOU'LL BE SAD.
WILL YOU SHED A TEAR? WILL YOU FEEL ANY RESPONSIBILITY? OF COURSE.
I WONDER WHY YOU'RE ASKING ME THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HANK SMITH, IF SOMEONE IS KILLED ON SHAG ROCK TRAIL BY A SUBPOENA CAR, WILL YOU BE SAD? WILL YOU SHED A TEAR? WILL YOU FEEL ANY RESPONSIBILITY? YES.
I WOULD LAST LIKE TO ASK, UM, WILLIAM FLOYD, SAME QUESTION.
WILL YOU FEEL SAD? WILL YOU SHED A TEAR? WILL YOU FEEL ANY RESPONSIBILITY POINT OF ORDER SOMEONE IF SOMEONE SAID BY A CAR ON THE STREET POINT OF ORDER? I, I DON'T THINK IT'S FOR YOU TO ASK US QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS CHAIR.
THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM,
UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, DOES MR. SETTLE WANT TO OH, I'M SORRY.
SO IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF, OF, OF TRYING TO COLLABORATE ON THIS, WE CAN ONLY CONTROL THAT WHICH IS ON OUR PROPERTY.
AND WE'VE COMMITTED TO DOING THE, UH, THE LEVEL TWO STREETS, WHICH INCLUDE SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES AND ALL ON SCHOFIELD AND LEVEL ONE ON SHAG BARK TRAIL, WHERE WE FRONT ON THAT AND NO ACCESS ON THE SHAG BARK.
AND THEN ALSO WE WILL DO A PEDESTRIAN BEACON AND CROSSWALK AT THE INTERSECTION OF SHAG BARK AND SCHOFIELD FARMS THERE AT THE SCHOOL.
IF YOU WANNA MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF OUR ZONING, UM, WE, I WILL ADD
IF, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL GET WITH THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AT THE CITY AND ADVOCATE FOR MORE SAFETY FEATURES ON SHAG BART ON LAND THAT WE DON'T OWN, WE WILL JOIN AND LEND OUR VOICES OF SUPPORT.
IS THERE A REASON YOU DON'T TAKE ACCESS ONTO PALMER LANE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? WELL, WE'VE FAR ENOUGH IN THE PLANNING, WE'VE GOT AN ACCESS ON PARER.
IT, IT SHARES IT WITH THE WELLS BRANCH.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP CLOSELY, YOU'LL SEE A WEIRD MM-HMM.
SO WE'VE GOTTA HAVE ACCESS ONTO SCOFIELD AS WELL.
BUT YOU COULD HAVE A WRITE IN, WRITE OUT ON PARMER? YES.
UM, ARE Y'ALL ALREADY ON THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS FOR THIS OR NOT YET? NO, NOT YET.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S ANOTHER LEVEL OF SAFETY FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
OF COURSE, WHEN WE GET INTO THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, THEY'LL GET NOTICE OF THAT.
AND WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE SAFETY THINGS AND THE THINGS THAT I'VE COMMITTED TO TONIGHT THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO MAKE IT PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WE'LL ABIDE BY IT.
UM, IS THERE, IS THERE A A, A A TRAFFIC IMPACT ON ANALYSIS AT ALL FOR THIS? FOR THIS, THERE NOT, WE DON'T HIT THE THRESHOLD THAT THE CITY REQUIRES FOR A TIA.
BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU DON'T HIT THAT THRESHOLD, THEY CAN REQUIRE YOU TO DO SOME THINGS AND WE CAN VOLUNTEER TO DO SOME THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HIT 2000 TRIPS,
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THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T REQUIRE A TIA.SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S BEEN NO PROCESS TO STUDY WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
THERE'S, AND THIS STAFF MAY BE ABLE TO CONFIRM, BUT THERE WILL BE, AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES AROUND, THERE SHOULD BE AN NTA REQUIRED DURING THE SITE PLAN.
SO THERE WOULD BE TWO COUNTS, AND THEN STAFF, UH, LOOKS AT IT AND THEY MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS OR OTHER SAFETY MEASURES.
SO MAYBE CITY STAFF CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
IS THERE, IS THERE A PLAN FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT LAYOUT, THOSE STREETS IN THAT AREA? IS THERE, IS THERE A MASTER PLAN IN, IN THAT AREA? BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT IS LOOKED AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN BY TPW AT THIS TIME.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND A TIA WAS NOT TRIGGERED AS ETA WAS NOT TRIGGERED BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN AUDIT EXCEEDED THE 2000 VEHICLE TRIP LIMIT THAT IS PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THE ACCESS POINTS, THE, YOU KNOW, CIRCULATION, ALL OF THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN BY THE TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER BEKI MOTIONS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER FLORES, I SAW YOU FIRST.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.
WHAT'S THE THOUGHT? WELL, SO, UM, WELL, SO IN, IN TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE KINK OF THE ZONING, UH, YOU KNOW, I I I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED NECESSARILY, UM, BUT I I, I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN A COMPELLING REASON WHY WE NEED TO REMOVE THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
UM, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, IF THE TRAFFIC GENERATION IS GONNA BE BELOW 2000 TRIPS, THEN IT WON'T MATTER.
BUT IF IT DOES GO ABOVE 2000 TRIPS AND THAT WOULD AMELIORATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY WOULD BE A FAIL SAFE THERE.
YOU KNOW, UM, AND, AND THEN SINCE WE'RE ON THE CO WE MIGHT AS WELL THROW THE BONE ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN BEACON AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED A COUPLE OF THE CONCERNS AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT IN, AGAIN, THIS, THIS BODY HAS BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT ABOUT SAYING WE NEED HOUSING.
WE'RE IN A, A HOUSING SHORTAGE.
RIGHT? AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DELIVER IT IN A PLACE THAT IS ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR.
AND WHILE IT DOESN'T HAVE HIGH FREQUENCY SERVICE ON PARMER, NOW IT IS SLATED TO HAVE THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND CURRENTLY IT IS A VERY EASY BIKE RIDE TO GET OVER TO THE 3 25 AS IT IS.
SO SOMEBODY LIVING IN MULTIFAMILY THERE COULD VERY EASILY GET TO A CC OR TO THE TRAIN STATION OR TO BURNETT ROAD OR THE 8 0 1 OR 8 0 3.
SO I, THE, THE LOCATION IS VERY GOOD FOR THAT PURPOSE.
OKAY, SO THE APPLICANT'S, OKAY, LEAVING THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IN PLACE, BUT REMOVING THE DENSITY LIMITATION IN THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, BUT LEAVING THE CRITERIA FOR THE TRIP GENERATION IN THERE.
AND THEN ADDING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FLASHING SIGNAL AND THE CROSSWORK AT THE SCHOOL.
SO CAN I SPEAK AS STAFF? UH, I DID WANNA CLARIFY.
THERE IS A REASON THAT THE STAFF DID NOT RECOMMEND CONTINUING THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR A 2000 VEHICLE TRIP LIMIT.
THAT IS AT THE REQUEST OF TPW, THAT WE NO LONGER PUT THOSE ON ZONING CASES, RIGHT? BECAUSE DO THEY LOOK AT THAT AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN? UH, WHEN THEY HAVE AN IDEA OF THE LAY, LAY OUT NATURAL DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND IF WE DO INCLUDE THE PROVISION ABOUT A PEDESTRIAN BEACON, IT WOULD NOT BE IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
THAT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH THE CITY.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE ELEMENTS, RIGHT? I THINK IN THIS CASE WE WOULDN'T BE ADDING A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR THE 2000 PER DAY.
WE JUST SUDDENLY WOULDN'T BE REMOVING ONE.
SO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SLANT ON THAT.
AND THEN IT'D BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DRIVEWAY, UM, ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL WITH THE FLASHING LIGHT.
WE CAN'T MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT OR AN OVERLAY, BUT WE CAN MAKE IT A SUGGESTION.
SO RECOMMENDING A, SO THAT IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDING A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT DOING THAT.
IT WOULD JUST BE RECOMMENDING NOT NECESSARILY A PUBLIC, WE CAN'T RECOMMEND A PUBLIC RESTRICTION, BUT JUST RECOMMENDING TO STAFF WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO PUT A SIGNAL, FLASHING SIGNAL ACROSS THE STREET AND RETAIN THE 2002 AND, AND AMENDING, I WOULD WORD THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SAY AMENDING THE, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO REMOVE THE DENSITY LIMITATION ONLY.
AND THEN LEAVE THE REST OF THE, JUST LEAVE THE LAST.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ADDING
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IT, WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING.WE'RE JUST SAYING REMOVE THE DENSITY LIMITATION CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
DO I HEAR THAT AS A MOTION?
DOES, DOES STAFF UNDERSTAND THE MOTION AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW? DID YOU READ IT AGAIN? GO AHEAD.
UM, WELL, SO THE, THE MOTION IS TO RE, UM, IS TO REMOVE THE, UM, THE DENSITY LIMITATION LIMITATION, OKAY? SO THAT, THAT'S THE PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE CABINET AMENDMENT NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER THREE, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER THREE, NO APPROVE ITEM TWO AND THREE, LET ME SEE IF I CAN START, SAY THANK YOU.
APPROVE ITEMS TWO AND THREE, REMOVE THE DENSITY LIMITATION IN THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF ITEM THREE, BUT LEAVE THE REST OF THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IN PLACE.
AND THEN RECOMMENDING TO STAFF DURING A SITE PLAN PROCESS, YOU WORK WITH THEM TO INCLUDE A FLASHING SIGNAL LIGHT A ACROSS, UM, WHAT IS BASICALLY SCOFIELD FARMS AT SHAG BARK TRAIL WITH A CROSSWALK AND A FLASHING BEACON.
YOU MAY CLARIFY THIS A LITTLE BIT.
WE'LL SEE MAYBE EVER SO CLOSE.
BUT 15 UNITS IS IN THE COVENANT, RIGHT? THAT'S, THERE'S THE, THE DIFFERENCE, IT'S IN ITEM NUMBER THREE.
IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
OKAY? SO REMOVING THAT FROM THE APPROVING ITEM THREE AS IS LEAVING THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IN ITEM TWO, BUT REDUCING THE DENSITY LIMITATION TO CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
OKAY, SO THAT'S THE MOTION
DO I HEAR A SECOND? THANK COMMISSIONER FLORE SECONDS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
VERY, I THINK WE GOT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTED.
UM, UM, THEY PROBABLY WANT MORE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK THAT CAN COME AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE.
I THINK GETTING ACCESS TO RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ON PRIMER LANE IS VERY VIABLE AT THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
UM, GETTING SIGNAL LIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS ON SHAG, UM, BARK TRAIL IN SCHOFIELD FARMS. AND I THINK APPLICANT WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CON, UH, DEVICES ON SHAG BARK TRAIL.
ESPECIALLY SINCE SCHOFIELD FARMS HAS NOW OPENED UP THROUGH UM, CEDAR BEND CREEK THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF A, A WHOLE PROJECT NOW.
SO WE'D BE KIND OF DIRECTING STAFF TO DO ALL OF THAT.
UH, IT'S A REZONING CASE, C 14 20 24 DASH 0 0 9 1.
FUTURE PROJECT DISTRICT 10 12 530 RESEARCH BOULEVARD IS SOME GRMU TO LOMU OR I'M SORRY, GR RMU AND LOMU TO CS ONE STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING THIS.
UM, SO DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM? YES.
AGAIN, COMMISSIONER SHERRY ES WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS KC 14 20 24 0 0 9 1, WHICH IS KNOWN AS FUTURE PROJECT.
IT'S LOCATED AT 12 5 3 0 RESEARCH BOULEVARD.
THE REQUESTED REZONING IS FROM GRMU AND LOMU TO CS ONE ZONING.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR CS ONE ZONING.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS A 1.41 ACRE SITE THAT CONTAINS A VACANT STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS USED AS A RESTAURANT AND A BIKE SHOP PREVIOUSLY.
UH, THAT FRONTS ONTO RESEARCH BOULEVARD, US HIGHWAY 180 3 GOING TO THE EAST.
THE TRACTOR LAND TO THE WEST CONTAINS AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR USE.
THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH ACROSS JOLLYVILLE ROAD ARE DEVELOPED WITH DUPLEX RESIDENCES.
IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING CS ONE ZONING TO UTILIZE THE SITE WITH A RESTAURANT OR COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED CS ONE ZONING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE US 180 3 JOLLYVILLE ROAD AREA STUDY THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE SITE UNDER CONSIDERATION IS NOT LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAJOR STREETS WHERE CS AND CS ONE ZONING IS INTENDED.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO AN OVER ZONING OF THE COMMERCIAL LIQUOR SALES DISTRICT.
IN THIS AREA IS THERE ARE ALREADY TWO CS ONE PAD SITES ADJACENT TO THIS TRACT IN THE OAK MILL VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER.
ONE OF THESE SUITES IS DEVELOPED WITH THE LIQUOR SALES USE AND THE OTHER IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
THERE IS ALSO CS ONE CO ZONING TO THE SOUTHEAST THAT WAS ZONED THROUGH KC 14 20 22 0 1 68 THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
ASKED JUST RIGHT THE CURRENT GM GRU ZONING ON TRACK ONE AND LOMU ZONING ON TRACK TWO THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2022.
SO VERY RECENTLY PROMOTES CONSISTENTLY CONSISTENCY WITH THE PROMOTED USES DEVELOP WITH THE USES DEVELOPED ADJACENT TO THESE PARCELS.
COMMERCIAL MIXED USE AND OFFICE MIXED
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USE ZONING WILL PERMIT THE APPLICANT TO UTILIZE THE VACANT STRUCTURES TO ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE.THE MORE INTENSIVE GRMU ZONING ON TRACK ONE IS APPROPRIATE FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT FRONTING A MAJOR HIGHWAY WITHIN AN AREA OF CONCENTRATED COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS MAINTAINING THE 120 FOOT BUFFER OF LOMU ZONING ALONG JOLL GOLD ROAD, WHICH IS DEFINED AS TRACK TWO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INTENT OF THE US 180 3 JOLLYVILLE ROAD AREA STUDY, THE POLICY OF 120 FOOT STRIP BUFFER OF LOS ZONING ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF JOLLYVILLE ROAD HAS BEEN APPLIED.
CONS CONSISTENTLY TO DATE TO MAINTAIN A SETBACK FROM THE COMMERCIAL USES FRONTING US HIGHWAY 180 3 TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE USES TO THE WEST ACROSS JOLLYVILLE ROAD.
THE PROPOSED LOMU ZONING FOR TRACK TWO WILL PROVIDE A TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES FRONT RESEARCH BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF JOLLYVILLE ROAD.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SHOULD WE FINISH THE HEARING AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS? UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? OKAY.
UH, I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND I'VE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES IN FACT CONCERNING MY PROPERTY AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR PROPERTY, WHICH LAST YEAR WAS GRANTED CS ONE ZONING WITH CO COMMERCIAL OVERLAY AND I DID SPOKE AGAINST IT.
I THEN WANTED THAT NEXT TO MY PROPERTY.
AND WHEN I SPOKE TO IN HERE, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT WASN'T THE COMMISSION ME, UH, MEETING, IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER MEETINGS AND COUNCIL MEMBER IN MY DISTRICT TOLD ME THAT, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU OPPOSED AND WE WILL TALK.
SO THEY CALLED ME AND I EXPLAINED TO THEM WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY SAID YOU COULD GET CS ONE YOURSELF.
I SAID, I ALREADY PAID FOR MY ZONING LIKE 2022 AND BACK THEN YOU DIDN'T LET ME HAVE IT AND NOW YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SO I TOOK THEIR ADVICE AND I'M HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY BECAUSE I APPLIED FOR CS ONE ZONING BECAUSE I HAVE A ZONING FOR ONE ACRE, DIFFERENT ZONING FOR 0.41 ACRE AND IT IS CONFUSING TO BEGIN WITH.
AND THEN MY PROPERTY, THE ONE, UH, THAT FOUR POINT 0.41 ACRE IS NEXT DOOR TO THE ONE GOT CS ONE LAST YEAR.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST RIGHT THERE.
AND I'M SURROUNDED A LOT OF CS ONE AND UH, CS UH, ZONING IN THE AREA AND UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT US 180 3 AND VILLE CORRIDOR, WHATEVER THINGS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DIDN'T APPLY TO MY NEIGHBOR LAST YEAR.
I MEAN THIS IS VERY, VERY, UH, YOU KNOW,
YOU KNOW, I CAN GET IT, HE CAN GET IT.
AND YOU GUYS, LAST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF YOU WERE THERE IN THAT COMMISSION ROSTER LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, UH, YOU ALL COULDN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION.
SO YOU REFERRED IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN IN CITY COUNCIL THEY AGREED TO GIVE THE GUY WHAT HE WAS ASKING.
AGAIN, I SPOKE TWICE IN THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
I REALLY WAS OPPOSED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE I HAD SOME TYPE OF RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE I WAS, WHICH I RENT, YOU KNOW, A TENANT IN THERE.
AND I WAS AFRAID THAT IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW HURT MY GUYS.
THEY ONE WHO ARE RENTING FROM ME IF THEY OPEN LET'S SAY HOOKAH LOUNGE OR THINGS IN THAT NATURE.
SO I WENT AHEAD AND THAT IS THE, I THINK THAT'S MY VIDEO.
I THOUGHT THEY'RE GONNA PUT AT THE END OF MY CONVERSATION, I MEAN MY TALKING AND IT SHOWS YOU AND I HAVE AUDIO ON IT THAT WHAT IS THE SITUATION UP THERE? THAT IS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
AND THIS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS MY PROPERTY.
I MEAN FENCE IN THERE IS ALL ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I BOUGHT PART OF IT LONG TIME AGO AND HERE WE ARE, THIS IS MY PROPERTY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I CAN'T HAVE THE SAME ZONING THE GUY
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GATHERED RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME IF THEY WANTED THREE AND JO LEVEL, WHATEVER THINGS YOU ALL HAVE APPLIED TO ME, WHY DIDN'T HE APPLY TO THAT GUY? SO I DO APPRECIATE, I WON'T MIND CONDITION ON IT, BUT I WANT, I DON'T WANT TO CONDITION HIM.THERE IS A BUS STOP RIGHT THERE, RIGHT BEFORE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY BUILDING.
AND HOW COMMERCIAL SHOULD IT BE IF A 40 FOOT LONG BUS COULD STOP IN THERE AND THEN I BE LIMITED? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PART OF IT.
SO I, AS I SAID, A WOULDN'T MIND CONDITION FOR 0.41 ACRE FACING THE JOLLYVILLE.
BUT ON THIS SIDE, MY TENANT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE TYPE OF THINGS THEY COULD GO GET THEIR TAVC LICENSE AND MAJORITY OF THEIR CELLS, YOU KNOW, IS ALCOHOL.
THAT'S HOW THEY DO THEIR BUSINESS.
AND UH, EVERYTHING'S IN IN LINE FOR ME TO GET THE CS ONE AT LEAST ON 180 3 SIDE AND THEN CS ONE CONDITIONAL ON THE OTHER SIDE, JUST LIKE MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
AND IF THERE IS ANY QUESTION, I'M HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
IF NOT, IF I HAVE ANY TIME LEFT, I WILL GIVE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? RIGHT.
ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP IN SUPPORT? YES.
SO ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE ON THIS ITEM ARE GONNA BE IN SUPPORT.
SO I WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE? SURE.
WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS MOHAMMED.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GONNA BE DEREK BUNTON.
DEREK, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? I'M DEREK BUNTON, I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT.
I DO GO AROUND THE CORNER TO THE OTHER SPACE THAT GOT THE ZONING.
IT'S LITERALLY 10 STEPS AND I FEEL I SU I SUPER AGREE WITH WE SHOULD BE THE SAME ZONING.
THANK YOU DEREK, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BENNY JEFFERSON.
BENNY WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
BENNY, PLEASE PRESS SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE BENNY IS NOT PRESENT RIGHT NOW, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO GEORGE JONES.
GEORGE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
HELLO, HOW ARE Y'ALL? I'M GEORGE JONES AND UH, I I, I FREQUENTLY USE THE HOOKAH LOUNGE THAT THEY TENANT OF, AND I'M A, I'M IN AGREEANCE OF WHAT HE JUST SAID.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SINA POWELL.
SINA, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I AM ONE OF THE CO-OWNERS OF THE BUILDING AT LEASING, UH, FROM MOHAMED.
AND, UM, I PREPARED A STATEMENT, SO I'M GONNA READ FROM MY PHONE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR A ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW OUR BUSINESS TO THRIVE AND CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO OUR COMMUNITY.
BEFORE SIGNING OUR LEASE, UM, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UH, WE DILIGENTLY RESEARCHED THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OPERATING IN THIS BUILDING.
WE WERE PREPARED TO COMPLY WITH THESE REGULATIONS.
HOWEVER, AFTER TAKING OVER THIS SPACE, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE PREVIOUS TENANTS HAD BEEN GRANTED A LIQUOR PERMIT WITH A MOBILE FOOD PERMIT.
A PROCESS THAT WE WERE LATER INFORMED BY THE CITY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
DESPITE THIS, THE CITY HAS TOLD US THAT WE CANNOT FOLLOW THAT SAME PROCESS THAT THEY TOOK TO GET THEIR LIQUOR PERMIT LEAVING US FACING OVER 60,000 IN UNEXPECTED COSTS JUST TO TRY AND GET OUR DOORS OPEN.
WE'RE STILL NOT OPEN TODAY, MEANING WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE GREASE TRAP THAT'S THERE AND THE SAMPLE PORT AND TRY TO GET RECORDS THAT THE CITY NO LONGER HAS BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS IS OLDER.
UM, SO I REACHED OUT TO PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND
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WE LEARNED THAT THE PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OURS LESS THAN 50 FEET AWAY.OUR ZONE IS CS ONE, ALLOWING THEM GREATER FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR OPERATIONS.
AND GIVEN OUR EQUAL DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IT WAS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT THAT OUR PROPERTY SHOULD ALSO BE ZONED AS CS ONE AND THAT WE SHOULD APPLY.
SO WE WORKED WITH OUR LANDLORD TO GET HERE TODAY.
WE'RE NOT ASKING TO ELIMINATE FOOD SERVICE.
WE FULLY INTEND TO SERVE FOOD.
UM, HOWEVER, THE CURRENT ZONING IMPOSES OUTDATED CONSTRAINTS THAT NO LONGER ALIGN WITH THE NEEDS OF OUR BUSINESS OR THE COMMUNITY.
THE ZONING CHANGE WILL ENABLE US TO OPEN OUR DOORS, CREATE JOBS, PAY TAXES, PROVIDE A SAFE, VIBRANT SOCIAL STATE SPACE WITHIN THE AUSTIN CITY LIMITS, A SPACE THAT REFLECTS THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN IMPROVING IT ZONING CHANGE SO WE CAN MAKE THESE CONTRIBUTIONS AND HELP BUILD A STRONGER, MORE INCLUSIVE AUSTIN.
A LOT OF OUR SPACES IN MANY CITY FREQUENTS OUR HOOKAH LOUNGE, WE HAVE A HOOKAH LOUNGE IN PFLUGERVILLE.
UM, AND A LOT OF BLACK-OWNED SPACES ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.
AND SO WE WANNA CREATE SOMETHING HERE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAD TO SAY.
WAS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BREN MCGRUDER.
BRENNAN, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES SAY GOOD EVENING.
UM, AGAIN, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, UH, I SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, JUST LIKE SHE MENTIONED, IT'LL CREATE A BUNCH OF OPPORTUNITIES, UH, WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS EDGAR POWELL.
EDGAR, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES ACTUALLY, SORRY I'M INCORRECT.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE NICOLE COOPER IS GONNA BE DONATING TIME TO EDGAR POWELL.
NICOLE, ARE YOU PRESENT? SO EDGAR, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE THE TENANTS OF THE PROPERTY AND, UM, CHANGING THE ZONING WILL NOT ONLY ALLOW US TO GET INTO THE SPACE SOONER, IT'LL ALSO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TYPE OF SPACE THAT WE WANT.
'CAUSE THE PLAN IS TO HAVE LIKE BREAKFAST FOOD ALL DAY, RIGHT? SO IT'S A LESS EXPENSIVE FOOD.
SO OUR PER, YOU KNOW, MEAL ITEM IS GONNA BE LIKE $8, $10 AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO ONE INDIVIDUAL IS TO GET TWO DRINKS THAT WILL PUT US OVER THE 51% THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE THAT KEEP OUR TABC LICENSE, RIGHT? IT'LL ALSO HINDER US WITH STAYING OPEN WITH LATE HOURS, RIGHT? WE, SO WE'VE BEEN IN THIS INDUSTRY FOR A FEW YEARS, UH, JUST LIKE DOING EVENTS AT DIFFERENT VENUES AND RENTING THINGS OUT.
SO WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR DEMOGRAPHIC, RIGHT? SO WE BUILT THIS BRAND THAT WE HAVE AND NOW WE HAVE OUR OWN SPACE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE LEASING.
SO, UH, THIS, THIS WOULD DEFINITELY HELP US, YOU KNOW, UM, WE WILLING TO ABIDE BY EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
LIKE MOHAMED SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT WE NEED TO ABIDE BY, WE ARE OKAY WITH NEGOTIATING THAT OR, YOU KNOW, FIGURING SOMETHING OUT.
BUT, UM, IT, IT IS DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, 60,000 IS JUST THE UNEXPECTED COST.
WE'RE ALMOST 200,000 IN WHAT WE PREDICTED IN THE BUDGET OF OUR OWN MONEY, OUR OWN SAVINGS, RIGHT? OUR OWN INVESTORS, EVERYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKING A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW AND WE STILL NOWHERE NEAR OPENING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET A WHOLE GREASE TRAP PULLED OUT THAT CAN TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS, SEVERAL MONTHS, WHO KNOWS, RIGHT? AND THEN WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNATURE, YOU KNOW, IN THE BUILDING THAT COULD TAKE MONTHS.
SO I MEAN, WE PROBABLY COULD BE ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS WAS TO CONTINUE TO HINDER US, RIGHT? AND I DON'T, I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, JUST BEING HONEST, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, I COULD SHOW YOU MENUS, I COULD SHOW YOU PREDICTIONS AND PAST EVENTS, RIGHT? I COULD SHOW YOU PLANNING OF WHAT WE EXPECT TO MAKE FOR LIQUOR, YOU KNOW, UM, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO BE UNDER THAT 51%, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES PEOPLE BUY BOTTLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YOU IMAGINE SOMEONE SPENDS $250 ON A BOTTLE OR CHAMPAGNE AND THEN THEY ONLY WANNA BUY, YOU KNOW, MAKE A OMELET AND CHICKEN AND WAFFLES AND SHRIMP AND GRITS WON'T BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT MEET THAT 60%, 50%, I MEAN, SORRY.
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THANK YOU.OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ARTESIA THOMAS ARTESIA.
MY NAME IS ARTESIA THOMAS AND I, I JUST WANNA START BY SAYING THAT SENA AND EDGAR ARE A PILLAR TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY PROVIDE CULTURE, NEW EXPERIENCE, EVENTS FOR UP AND COMING BUSINESS ENTREPRENEURS TO BUILD CONNECTIONS WHILE ALSO PROVIDING PLENTY OF PEOPLE JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND RESOURCES WHILE GIVING THE BLACK COMMUNITY HOPE THAT THEY, IT IS POSSIBLE TO SUCCEED.
WHEN I STEP INTO ANY OF THEIR EVENTS AND ESTABLISHMENTS, IT PROVIDES ME WITH NOT ONLY A GOOD TIME BUT A SAFETY NET, KNOWING THAT I HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO TO HAVE A GOOD TIME SAFELY.
I AM A FULL-TIME STUDENT AND ALSO A FULL-TIME WORKER.
I SUPPORT MYSELF AND SOMETIMES IT IS JUST NOT ENOUGH.
SENA AND EDGAR HAS PROVIDED ME WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PART-TIME JOB, WHILE ALSO BEING ABLE TO STEP AWAY FROM THE BURDEN OF TRYING TO STAY AFLOAT.
THEY CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO FINDING WAYS TO PROVIDE JOB RESOURCES AND WELCOMING ALL EQUALLY INTO A FRIENDLY, SAFE, FUN COMMUNITY WHILE BEING AFFORDABLE.
FOR PEOPLE OF MY AGE WHO CANNOT AFFORD LIFE, I'VE GROWN EVER SINCE.
I'VE BECOME AN EMPLOYEE FOR THEM.
I'VE BUILT LIFELONG BONDS, GROWN MY CLIENTELE FOR MY PERSONAL SWIMSUIT LINE, AND HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO BROADEN MY WORK, MY WORK ETHIC.
I AM IN TOTAL AGREEANCE TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS YOLANDA KELLY.
YOLANDA WILL BE WITH JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
YOLANDA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS YOLANDA KELLY AND I'M JUST IN, UM, AGREEMENT WITH THE ZONING BEING CHANGED FOR EDGAR AND SHAINA POWELL.
THEY ARE WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL, UM, ENTREPRENEURS AND THIS WILL HELP THEM TO INCREASE THEIR STATUS IN THE AUSTIN AREA.
THANK YOU YOLANDA, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TERRANCE COLLINS.
TERRANCE WILL ALSO BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY TERRANCE.
PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS TERRANCE COLLINS.
UM, AND I'M GONNA AGREEANCE, UH, WITH EVERYONE, UH, THAT HAS SPOKE, UH, PREVIOUSLY BEFORE ME.
UH, AND ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, THE OWNERS ALSO DO OTHER GOOD THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE BUSINESS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU TERRANCE FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
GIVEN THE REST OF OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS ARE NOT CURRENTLY PRESENT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM? YES.
WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT WANTED TO SPEAK? YES.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING, SO I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE DONATING OF THE TIME.
UM, BUT I'M A RECENT, UH, RECENTLY MOVED HERE TO AUSTIN, LIVED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
AND WHEN WE GOT HERE WE FOUND IT VERY HARD TO FIND COMMUNITY, FIND CULTURAL EVENTS AND FIND CONNECTION.
AND IF YOU TRY TO DO YOUR OWN EVENTS HERE, IT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE 'CAUSE YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST ALL THE CORPORATE EVENTS AND PEOPLE WANT MONEY OUT OF THE WAZOO TO DO EVENTS.
EDGAR AND SINA CAME HERE AND THEY PUT THEIR MONEY ON THE LINE TO CREATE VENUES FOR US TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
AND TO BE HONEST, IT'S MERELY IMPOSSIBLE IF THEY DON'T OPEN THESE DOORS TO FIND VENUE USED TO HOST EVENTS.
I PERSONALLY HOST A LOT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS, CULTURAL EVENTS.
WE DO A LOT OF THINGS TO TRY TO CREATE CULTURE IN OUR CITY AND WE NEED MORE FACILITIES AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND SO WE REALLY ARE IN SUPPORT OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR DOING SO.
OKAY, SO I BELIEVE THAT TAKES US ON TO OUR APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL.
HE'S WELCOME TO REBUTTAL, BUT THEY'VE ALL BEEN IN HIS SUPPORT.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? ANY SPEAKERS POSITION?
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NO, UH, IT REALLY DO MAKE NO DIFFERENCE TO ME BECAUSE I DID LIKE THE ZONING I GET PRIOR BECAUSE I HAD PLANNED FOR IT.THE STUFF THEY KNOW HOW HARD I WORK FOR THAT.
BUT WHEN I NOTICED AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS, THESE GUYS ALL FACED WITH THESE HUGE THINGS THAT TABC REQUEST THEM TO DO.
AND THE PREVIOUS GUY AS, UH, SHARIA SAID THEY OBTAINED THEIR LICENSE.
SOMEHOW THEY TURNED OUT IT NOT TO BE TRUE, BUT THEY HAD IT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
BUT THIS GUY WENT IN KNOWING THAT THERE IS A LICENSE AND THEY COULD HAVE DO THE SAME THING.
SO THEY END UP WITH THIS BIG OLD THING SAYING, OH NO, YOU CANNOT STAY OPEN PAST MIDNIGHT.
AND THESE GUYS ARE, HONESTLY, THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN PAYING ME, I'M A LANDLORD, RIGHT? I DON'T CARE ONE WAY THE OTHER, I GOT THE CONTRACT WITH THEM, THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO PAY AND THEY'RE BEING PAINTED.
BUT I DON'T, ON THE OTHER HAND, I REALLY DON'T SEE IT FAIR IF THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS ENTITLED TO THAT.
AND THEY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AS WELL, WHY NOT? I SHOULD HAVE THAT PRIVILEGE TO HAVE IN CS ONE, WHETHER PART OF IT CONDITION, PART OF IT NOT CONDITION.
SAVE EVERY ONE OF US FOR GOING FROM HERE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, DOING IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
THESE PEOPLE HAS A LOT OF MONEY SO FAR FOR THE FRONT AND THEY DESERVE TO BE REWARDED IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
IS THAT ALL THE SPEAKERS? YES.
WHAT IS YOUR NAME AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO UM, BACK UP WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING.
THERE ARE GREAT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AND AUSTIN ALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE IT WAS ALWAYS KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
AND I THINK THAT THIS COULD, UM, HELP BRING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT INITIATIVE BACK AND MAKE IT AUSTIN LIKE CULTURALLY DIVERSE AND OFFER SPACES WHERE, UM, WE NORMALLY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY LIKE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ONE OF THE KEY COMMENTS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME RIGHT NOW IS THAT, UM, WE'RE PUSHED OUT TO THE OUTSKIRTS SO YOU GUYS COULD HELP US AND, AND HELP THEM HELP OUR COMMUNITY ALTOGETHER BY, UM, WE'RE DOING THAT ZONING.
SO WE HAVE A SPACE HERE AND A FOOT IN THE AUSTIN AREA.
IF, IF YOU WOULD DO ME A FAVOR AND GET A FORM AND GO AHEAD AND FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK OKAY.
THAT WAY WE HAVE IT ALL OFFICIAL.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE? WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I I BELIEVE THAT IT, THERE IS A COMPLICATION JUST BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A SURVEY OF THE BUILDING OKAY.
TO PROVIDE FIELD NOTES TO DESCRIBE IT.
IF THEY, IF WE, AND I'M JUST GOING OUT ON A LIMB, IF WE APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD THEY HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN IT GOES TO COUNSEL TO GET THAT THOSE FIELD NOTES TO YOU? UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A SURVEYOR TO DO THAT, BUT OKAY.
THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE NECESSARY BEFORE WE COULD DRAFT AN ORDINANCE BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
IF THAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
I JUST, UM, WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THAT.
SO, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THE, THE LOMU IS FACING JOLLYVILLE ROAD, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND UM, AND SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS HAVING THE CS ONE FACING 180 3 AND MAINTAINING THE LOMU, THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THAT TRACK.
YOU COULD SPOT ZONE JUST THOSE BUILDINGS WITH CS ONE, THE CS ONE IN THAT WAY EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD STAY THE SAME.
STAY THE WAY THIS, SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ON JOLLYVILLE.
UM, BUT THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD THEN BE BROUGHT UP INTO CODE BY THE SPOTS ZONE IN CS ONE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRACK NEXT DOOR, THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE ON THAT ONE.
UH, THERE'S JUST SPOTS WHERE THE ACTUAL LEASE TENANTS WERE AT, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO PROVIDE A SET OF FIELD NOTES FOR THAT SPACE.
BECAUSE THAT, I MEAN THE APPLICANTS MAKE A COMPELLING POINT.
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HEARD A LOT FROM SHADOW OAKS AND BARRINGTON OAKS AND BALCONES OAKS ABOUT JOLLYVILLE ROAD.A LOT AND UM, NO, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS HAVE BEEN HERE TO CRY, UM, AT THE COUNCIL TODAY.
UM, BUT UM, BUT I REALLY LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
IS THAT SOMETHING THE OWNER WOULD, COULD LOOK INTO TO GET A SET OF FIELD NOTES? JUST A BOUNDARY OF THOSE BUILDINGS? UH, THAT, THAT WE COULD SPOT ZONE THOSE BUILDINGS.
CS ONE, LET'S SAY FOOTPRINT ZONE INSTEAD OF F SORRY, FOOT TERM OF ART GOING BACK PROBABLY WAY BEFORE THIS, BUT A FOOTPRINT ZONING
AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING OF MY, MY TALK, I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPE OF ZONING HERE RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, WE GOT CS THREE, NO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE CS ONE.
YOU, YOU WANNA JUST DO THE BUILDING AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE EXPENSES INCLUDING SURVEY.
AND WHEN I WAS DOING MY CHANGE TWO YEARS AGO, I PROVIDED A SURVEY FOR WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR AND UH, WHATEVER HAS TO DO WITH JOLLYVILLE AND WANTED IT TO LEAVE.
CORRIDOR SCHEDULING, I PROVIDED ALL THAT TO THEM, UH, STUFF RIGHT THERE.
AND, UH, I I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I MEAN THIS IS TOO MUCH TROUBLE
THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING WOULD MATCH WHAT WAS DONE ON THE ADJACENT TRACT WHERE JUST THE, THE BUILDING THAT NEEDED THE CS ONE ZONING WHERE ZONE CS ONE AND THE OTHER ZONING REMAINED ON THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T, I REALIZE THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK TABC IS GONNA GO FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA THROW EVENTS IN THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE LATE NIGHT PARTIES.
THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS GONNA BE USED AS PARKING LOT AND THAT'S GONNA THROW US HERE IN THIS SITUATION MAY, YOU KNOW, IT WILL NOT BE DESIRABLE FOR EVERYBODY.
I MEAN YOU COULD LIMIT MY PART OF IT.
THAT 0.41 FACING JAW LEVEL GIVE IT CONDITION LIKE NO, UH UH, LUNG FOR EXAMPLE.
NO STORAGE OF VEHICLES, NO FINANCIAL ALTERNATIVE FINANCING.
THAT'S WHAT THEY ALL PUT ON THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR GUYS.
PROPERTY MINE IS JUST RIGHT THERE.
AS LONG AS I HAVE UNIFIED ZONING.
LEMME GO BACK TO THE STAFF AND SEE ABOUT GO, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF, SO GO AHEAD.
I WAS GONNA CLARIFY WHAT HAPPENED ON THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IF YOU WANT ME TO.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK BECAUSE WE DID NOT GO FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT PROPERTY.
IT WAS A SPLIT VOTE AND IT WENT FORWARD WITHOUT, UM, DID COUNSEL APPROVE MY UNDERSTANDING, MAYBE I'M NOT READING IT RIGHT, BUT IT'S CS ONE BUT IT PROHIBITS COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE IT DOES.
IT ALSO PROHIBITS ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL SERVICES AND VEHICLE STORAGE AND LIMITS THE PROPERTY THERE TO LR SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S AT THE CORNER.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS THE CONDITIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PUT ON THAT PROPERTY.
UM, AND THE OTHER, THE STAFF DID NOT RECOMMEND IT AND THE COMMISSION WAS NOT ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT PROPERTY.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, SORRY.
ARE YOU FINISHED? IF YOU'RE NOT FINISHED, FINISH.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, CONCERNING THIS PROPERTY, IF THERE'S CS ONE THAT DOESN'T PROHIBIT COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS THROUGH SITE PLAN WITH DSD TO DO A COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE.
SO THAT IS ONE MORE STEP THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
AND ARE THERE DIFFICULTIES WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? IF IT'S ONLY THE BUILDING WITH CS ONE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA BE PARKING ON OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN PARK IN GR SO THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.
THE ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION THAT I COULD THINK OF THAT MIGHT SOLVE THE ISSUE OF THE SURVEY WOULD BE JUST TO CONSIDER REZONING TRACK ONE.
IT'S ALMOST THINKING THE SAME THING.
THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR TRACK ONE AND TWO BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS ZONING, RIGHT? WHERE WE DEFINE THOSE.
SO WE COULD DO CS ONE FOR TRACK TWO FOR TRACK ONE AND LEAVE TRACK TWO LOMU.
BUT OFTEN YOU DO DO THAT CS ONE FOOTPRINT.
UM, FOR THE SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S COCKTAIL LOUNGE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN
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WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR DOING THAT AS OPPOSED TO ALL OF TRACK ONE, WHICH IS FAIRLY LARGE.THAT'S WHY IS BECAUSE WE TRY NOT TO SEE THAT VOLUME OF CS ONE WHEN WE KNOW THE ONLY NEED FOR IT IS FOR THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE.
SO, AND KNOWING THAT THEY CAN PARK IN THE GR BECAUSE IT IS A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
SO, UM, IT WOULD JUST BE A UNIFIED SIZE PLAN WITH, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THOSE WITH ALL THE TRACKS COMBINED.
AND THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE DIFFERENT PORTIONS AND THEY WOULD LOOK AT WHERE THE ACTUAL COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE CS ONE PORTION, WHICH WOULD BE A FOOTPRINT, IF THAT IS THE WAY YOU GO.
SO OF THE BUILDING, I THINK THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE BUILDING MAKES SENSE.
THAT'S WHAT'S TYPICALLY DONE FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGE USES.
I PERSONALLY AM OF THE BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD NOT MAKE THE PROCESS OF OPENING A SMALL BUSINESS IN AUSTIN ANY HARDER THAN IT ALREADY IS AND WOULD SUPPORT, UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THE, THE ITEM AS IS TO RECOMMEND THE, THE ZONING REQUESTED.
UM, I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT REZONING THE TRACK ONE IF THAT SOLVED THE PROBLEM.
BUT I SPOT ZONING SEEMS LIKE IT'S, I THINK CREATING MORE PROBLEMS. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
I, I THINK THE COST OF GETTING THE MEETS AND BOUNDS JUST FOR THE BUILDING, IT'S NOT HUGE, BUT IT ALREADY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE CUP PROCESS AND IT, THEY HAVE TO HIRE AN ENGINEER TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS SO THEY DON'T NEED EXTRA COSTS HERE AND THERE.
BUT UH, IF IT WAS TRACKED ONE, THEY WOULD AVOID RESPONSE.
STILL NEED CP, RIGHT? NO, FOR THE CUP YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN.
WELL, SO YOU KNOW, UH, AGAIN, UH, THE TWO OF YOU WERE NOT ON THIS COMMISSION WHEN THESE NEIGHBORS CAME TO US ABOUT JOLLYVILLE ROAD.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING THAT'S HERE, THE EXPERIENCE OF FACING RESEARCH BOULEVARD IN 180 3 IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE EXPERIENCE FACING JOLLYVILLE ROAD.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS AFRAID THAT JOLLYVILLE ROAD WILL BECOME THE ACCESS ROAD OF 180 3.
AND IF WE KEEP ZONING IN THAT AREA LIKE IT IS FACING THE HIGHWAY, THEN THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GET.
AND SO AGREE WITH JOSEPH, RIGHT? SO ZONE THERE, THERE'S A REASON WHY TRACK ONE WE COULD GET AWAY WITH AND JUSTIFY THAT, BUT IF WE START ALLOWING THAT CREEP THERE, THEN SOMEONE ELSE IS GONNA COME AND SAY USE ZONE CS ONE FACING JOLLYVILLE ROAD.
AND SO WHY, WHY CAN'T I DO CS ONE? NO, I AGREE WITH THAT.
WE ALSO DON'T WANT CS ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM SF THREE AND, AND WHILE WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH, I MEAN WHAT IS CLEARLY A TERRIFIC COMMUNITY ORIENTED BUSINESS, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE TONIGHT, SO THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ONE OPTION WOULD BE TO LOOK AT ZONING TRACK ONE CS ONE, WHICH WOULD ENABLE YOU TO KEEP WHAT YOU HAVE OUT THERE.
YOU MAY HAVE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SITE PERMIT, BUT THEN LEAVING THE LOMU FOR THE LOT TWO, WHICH FACES VILLE ROAD, DOES THAT WORK FOR THE OWNER? HE DOESN'T LIKE IT, BUT FOR ME IT DOESN'T WORK.
BUT FOR THEM IT PROBABLY WORKS AGAIN, IS WHAT? CAN YOU COME TO THE D PLEASE? SORRY.
IT COMES, IT BOILS DOWN TO THE, TO THIS X GET IT.
YOU ALL SAW IN FOUR MINUTES VIDEO, RIGHT? THAT IS EXACT SAME THING.
FACING THE SAME NEIGHBORS, SAME HOUSES.
I GOT A DRIVEWAY, HE GOT NOTHING.
THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE ONE ON THE CORNER IS HE FACES OAK.
IT'S A CORNER OF AN INTERSECTION.
SO HE GOT THE CS ONE, WHICH IS IN THE CODE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WRITTEN ANYWHERE IN YOUR OLD CONSTITUTION AS FAR AS CITY OF AUSTIN IS CONCERNED IS NOT IN THERE.
I, I TRY MY BEST TO FIND ANYTHING IN THAT, TO GIVE IT SOME ARGUMENT IS NOT THERE.
I HAVE ONE IDENTICAL CS ONE ZONING FOR MY ENTIRE PROPERTY IT CONDITION AND PART OF IT.
THAT WAY I DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ANY MONEY GOING AFTER SURVEY THIS AND THAT.
BECAUSE EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY NOWADAYS.
AND BELIEVE ME, THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY FOR GUYS UNDERSTAND.
OKAY, SO IF WE, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IF WE ZONE LOT ONE CS ONE AND THEN LOT TWO, THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT LEAVE IT LOMU.
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THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE COCKTAIL LOUNGE ON THE CS ONE ZONING PROPERTY IN THE FRONT.I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CP PROCESS AND THEN THROUGH THE TABC PROCESS.
WHICH OF COURSE IS SEPARATE THAN THE C SEPARATE, SEPARATE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT THIS WOULD ENABLE EVERYTHING FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH AND DO THAT.
NOW I WILL SAY ON THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, UM, ON JOLLYVILLE THAT DOES HAVE CS ONE CO, THEY DID PROHIBIT SOME USES, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL SERVICES, VEHICLE STORAGE, SOME OF THE MAJOR BIG ONES WHICH YOU MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER, UM, JUST IN CS AND IN CS ONE THERE, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION SALES AND SERVICES, THERE ARE SOME INTENSIVE USES.
UM, BUT IF THAT IS UP TO YOU, IT DOES FRONT 180 3.
ONE PUT A BUNCH OF CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS IN THE BACK OR SPLIT IT INTO TWO DIFFERENT SEWING CATEGORIES.
SO IF, IF WE DID THE CO, HOW MUCH IS THAT? IS THAT SAVING TIME MONEY PROCESSES YOU THEY'RE STILL GONNA FOR, FOR THE TENANTS WHO ARE HERE, NO, DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH GET TABC AND GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A COCKTAIL LOUNGE REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, WE ALREADY APPROVED FOR.
IF YOU'VE ALREADY GOT IT THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DONE.
BUT THOSE ARE THE, THE STEPS THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO ZONING WISE.
THE QUESTION IS REALLY THE PIECE OF LAND TRACK TWO, WHICH FRONTS ON JOLLYVILLE, WHICH DOESN'T AFFECT THEIR DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT AFFECTS THE OWNER WHO OWNS EVERYTHING.
UM, HE WOULD PREFER ONE ZONING OVER THE WHOLE TRACK AS OPPOSED TO ONE ZONING AND ONE AND ONE ZONING AND TWO.
WELL I UNDERSTAND THE PREFERENCE, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A SOME FINANCIAL REASON.
IT SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR THE APP FOR THE PERSON WHO'S RENTING IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP, IF THEY WANNA USE THAT BUILDING FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGE, THE PROCESS IS THE SAME.
WELL THERE'S NO, RIGHT NOW THE TRACK FURNISHING ON JOLLYVILLE HAS NOTHING.
THEY COULD DEVELOP WITH LO UNDER LO.
SO, AND CAN WE DO THAT? LIKE CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO, OR COULD WE RECOMMEND THAT CHANGE EVEN THOUGH THE OWNER DOESN'T, IT'S NOT WHAT HE'S DOING.
ZONING IS COMPLETELY DISCRETIONARY.
AND THEN THE COUNCIL CAN ALSO DO AND THEY CAN ALSO CAN TURN AROUND AND DO WHATEVER.
SO WE'RE JUST MAKING A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON WHAT WE FEEL IS THE BEST LAND USE FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO.
UM, TO ME THE CS ONE MAKES SENSE FOR TRACK ONE, TRACK TWO I STRUGGLE WITH BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT ART, THE ARGUMENT ABOUT WANTING EVERYTHING ZONED THE SAME.
BUT THEN I'VE ALSO LISTENED TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO FROM ON JOLLYVILLE ROAD AND REALLY HAVE HEARD TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM THEM, THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING THESE FACILITIES FRONT ON, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM, RIGHT? PLUS THE, WE'RE ALL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING, BUT ONLY TRACK ONE IS NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE SPACE, TO HAVE THIS SPACE WITH THEIR ONE.
IT WOULD BE TRACK ONE, TRACK ONE CS ONE ZONING WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT ARGUMENT.
IT'S REALLY THE OWNER OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY.
WE WANNA TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AND PUT CS ONE IN THE BACK OR LEAVE IT AS IT IS NOW WITH L-O-E-M-U AND HE COULD ALWAYS, I THINK IF WE JUST ZONED TRACK ONE, HE WOULD'VE THE ABILITY TO COME IN AND REQUEST WHAT HE WANTS ON TRACK TWO.
IF, IF WE ONLY RECOMMEND, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF WE ONLY RECOMMEND ZONING ON TRACK ONE AND DON'T RECOMMEND ANYTHING ON TRACK TWO, HE CAN GO TO COUNCIL AND GET, HE CAN GO TO COUNCIL AND GET WHAT HE WANTS.
UH, BUT IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T PROHIBIT HIM FROM COMING IN AND ASKING FOR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE FUTURE IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON TRACK TWO, NO, ANYONE CAN REZONE THEIR PROPERTY AT ANY TIME.
I MEAN APPLY TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY AT ANY TIME.
SO UNLESS THEY'RE DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? UM, THEN YOU HAVE, YES THEN THEY HAVE A TIME LIMIT AS TO WHEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND ASK FOR SOMETHING OR MORE, SOMETHING MORE PERMISSIVE.
UM, BUT NO, I MEAN YOU COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ONE CATEGORY ON TRACK ONE AND ANOTHER CATEGORY ON TRACK TWO, UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD GO FORWARD TO COUNSEL AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH IT.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, DISCUSSION FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT WHAT'S FAIR AND SO IT IS GOOD TO REMEMBER THAT ALTHOUGH THERE WAS CS ONE ZONING TO ALLOW THAT LIQUOR STORE, UM, FOR THE JOLLYVILLE OAK LIQUOR CABINET, THEY ALSO GOT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY PROHIBIT VEHICLE STORAGE, ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THEY WERE LEFT WITH ALSO HAVING TO HAVE LR SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WHICH I'M SURE THE APPLICANT DOESN'T WANT.
BUT I WOULD BE FINE WITH THEM KEEPING,
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I THINK IT'S REASONABLE INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM THE CS SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, KEEP THE GRMU SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND USES PLUS THE, I GUESS WHATEVER RESTAURANT, WHATEVER ELSE IS NEEDED FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE.IT WOULD BASICALLY JUST BE COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY ARE ALLOWED TO DO RESTAURANT AND GR OKAY.
SO THAT, I THINK WHAT'S REASONABLE FOR TRACK ONE IS THE CS ONE ZONING BUT THE GRMU STANDARDS AND USES EXCEPT FOR COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE.
AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK THE COMMISSIONERS, CURRENTLY THEY HAVE GR RMU ON TRACK ONE AND LMU ON TRACK TWO.
WOULD YOU WANNA DO KEEP THE MU WITH TRACK ONE? SO EVEN IF YOU DID CS ONE, IF YOU WANTED TO KEEP THE MU AND IF IT'S UP TO YOU, IF YOU WANNA ADD A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ONTO IT, UM, BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO BE ON BOTH TRACKS.
I WOULD THINK KEEPING THE MU FOR THE FUTURE IF SOMEONE COMES IN DEVELOPS THIS, NEVER KNOW.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
BUT I PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A CS ONE USE AND THEN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE ARE ALL USED CLOTHING STORES.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THE KEEPING THE GR RU ZONING BUT ALLOW, WELL NO, NOT KEEPING THE CSME ZONING, BUT KEEP THE GR MU SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND USES EXCEPT TO ALLOW THAT COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE.
UM, AND THEN ON THE TRACK TWO, KEEP THE ZONING AS IS.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO DO THAT STAFF DOES THAT WORK FOR WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO AND EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I'M HEARING.
I'M HEARING CS ONE UCO FOR TRACK ONE, UH, WITH THE ONLY PERMITTED CS ONE USES COCKTAIL LOUNGE USES A USE YES.
AND THEN ALL OTHER GRMU USES AND GR RMU SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THEN LEAVE TRACK TWO AS LOMU.
THAT'S THE MOTION AS IT STANDS.
SO I THINK EVERYBODY KIND OF GETS WHAT THEY WANT.
THE OWNER, YOU'RE KIND OF THE LOMU.
YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT WITH CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT GOES IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE ABOVE LOMU, BUT I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION, AT LEAST WITH THIS MOTION IS KEEPING THE BACK LO MU FOR THE PIECE FACING ON JOLLYVILLE ROAD.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? GO DOWN TO THE END.
OUR NEW GUY
UM, OKAY, SO THE MOTION WAS BY, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DEPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? DOES THAT ALLOW FOR LATE HOURS? YES.
YES, IT'S, IT'S ZONING THE TRACK CSM UM ONE CS ONE.
SO EVERYTHING YOU NEED, SITE DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS ARE LIMITED DOWN TO GRMU.
UM, SO THAT WOULD JUST LIMIT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
LATE HOURS WILL DEPEND ON A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
WHICH COMES BACK TO US REGARDLESS, YOU'LL HAVE TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
BUT THAT'S NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WE DO, YOU HAVE TO GET THAT CONDITIONAL USE AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOTICE THERE TWO DIRECT, YES.
SO LATE NIGHT PEOPLE, THEY COME TO MAIN BUILDING, THEY AC ROAD, WOULD THERE BE PROBLEMS? NO, NO, NO.
SITE DEVELOPMENT, YES, THAT'S A SITE DEVELOPMENT ISSUE, BUT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE ZONING.
DRIVEWAYS, PARKING, YOU'RE ALLOWED ON ANY ZONING ANY TIME.
THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS THERE.
THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT.
UM, DO WE WANNA TAKE UP ITEM SEVEN FIRST? IT SEEMED TO BE THE EASIEST TO GO THROUGH AS OPPOSED TO SIX.
WELL WE HAVE FEWER SPEAKERS ON ITEM SEVEN AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE AT 7 30, 7 45 ISH.
[DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS]
TAKE UP NEXT DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. I'M GONNA GO INTO REVERSE ORDER, UH, PICK UP ITEM SEVEN, DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL A RESOLUTION TO RESTRICT SOME COMMERCIAL USES ON IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS.UH, THIS WAS A SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER PKI AND COMMISSIONER STERN.
UM, I CAN READ IN THE RESOLUTION IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE IT WAS LATE COMING INTO THE BACKUP.
UM, I'M GONNA READ FAIRLY QUICKLY.
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IT IS A RESOLUTION TO RESTRICT SOME COMMERCIAL USES ON IMAGINE NO AND CORRIDORS, WHEREAS THE IMAGINE NO AND PLIGHT PLAN INCLUDED SEVERAL STATED LIVABILITY OBJECTIVES, INCLUDING ONE, PROMOTE A COMPACT AND CONNECTED CITY DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING IN CONNECTED AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PATTERNS, SUPPORTING TRANSIT AND URBAN LIFESTYLES AND REDUCING SPRAWL WHILE PROTECTING AND ENHANCING NEIGHBORHOODS.BULLET POINT, DEVELOPING DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING ACROSS THE CITY IN A MANNER FRIENDLY TO FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, SENIORS AND INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.
BULLET 0.4, AUSTIN'S UNIQUE CHARACTER AND LOCAL BUSINESSES BEING RECOGNIZED AS A VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
BULLET 0.5, CLEAR GUIDELINES SUPPORTING BOTH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION THAT SUSTAIN AND IMPROVE AUSTIN'S CHARACTER AND PROVIDES CERTAINTY FOR RESIDENTS AND BUS AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AUSTIN'S DIVERSE POPULATION BEING ACTIVE AND HEALTHY WITH ACCESS TO LOCALLY GROWN NOURISHING FOODS AND AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE.
AND WHEREAS THE IMAGINE AUSTIN GROWTH CONCEPT PLAN CONCEPT MAP IS ONE OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN DECISION GUIDELINES INCORPORATING INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE DECISION MAKES, MAKING MATRIX, INCLUDING IN THE ZONING CHANGE REVIEW SHEET PROVIDED BY CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF FOR REVIEW BY THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND WHEREAS THE IMAGINE AUSTIN GROWTH CONCEPT MAP INCLUDES IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDORS, WHICH ARE MEANT TO FACILITATE A LONG TERM SHIFT TOWARDS TRANSIT, WALKING AND BIKING AND ZONING POLICY ALONG THESE CORRIDORS SHOULD ENHANCE TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE USES, ENCOURAGE MORE INTENTIONAL AND EQUITABLE LAND STEWARDSHIP WITH INCREASED BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN TRANSIT CONNECTIVITY, HOUSING OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES, PUBLIC REALM ACTIVATION, AND NEW ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES NEAR PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED AT THE FOLLOWING, OUR PROHIBITED USES ON PROPERTIES LOCATED ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR COMMERCIAL USES AGRICULTURAL SALES AND SERVICES, BUILDING MAINTENANCE SERVICES, CAMPGROUND CARRIAGE, STABLE, CONVENIENT STORAGE, DROP OFF, RECYCLING COLLECTION FACILITY, ELECTRONIC PROTOTYPE ASSEMBLY, ELECTRONIC TESTING, EQUIPMENT REPAIR AND SERVICES, EQUIPMENT SALES, EXTERMINATING SERVICES, FUNERAL SERVICES, MARINA, RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT AND MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE, RECREATIONAL EQUIPMENT, SALES RESEARCH, ASSEMBLY SERVICES, RESEARCH, TESTING SERVICES, RESEARCH, WAREHOUSING SERVICES, SCRAP AND SALVAGE SERVICE STATION STABLES, VEHICLE STORAGE, INDUSTRIAL USES INCLUDING BASIC INDUSTRY GENERAL WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION RECYCLING CENTER RESOURCE EXTRACTION, AGRICULTURAL USES, INCLUDING ANIMAL PRODUCTION, CROP PRODUCTION, INDOOR CROP PRODUCTION.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE FOLLOWING OUR CONDITIONAL USES ON PROPERTIES LOCATED ON AN IMAGINE LOSS AND ACTIVITY CORRIDOR.
ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL SERVICES, AUTOMOTIVE SALES, AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SERVICES, AUTOMOTIVE WASHING PAWN SHOP SERVICES, PEDICAB STORAGE AND DISPATCH, SPECIAL USE, HISTORIC INDUSTRIAL USES, CUSTOM MANUFACTURING, BAIL BOND SERVICES, COMMERCIAL BLOOD PLASMA CENTER, COMMERCIAL OFF STREET PARKING, COMMUNICATION SERVICES, CONSTRUCTION, SALES AND SERVICES, ELECTRONIC VEHICLE CHARGING KENNELS, MONUMENT RETAIL SALES, OFFSITE ACCESSORY PARKING, LIGHT MANUFACTURING, LIMITED WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION AGRICULTURAL USES FOR HORTICULTURE.
UH, AND THIS IS JUST BEGINNING THIS PROCESS.
THIS WOULD BASICALLY KICK THIS FROM HERE TO CODES AND ORDINANCES, UH, AND THEN FROM THERE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO THIS IS NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA APPROVE THIS TONIGHT OR ANYTHING THAT'S SAID AND DONE, THIS IS JUST KIND OF GETTING THE PROCESS STARTED, UM, TO RESTRICT SOME COMMERCIAL USES ON IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA GO FOR THE SPEAKERS.
SO WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM, ANA AGUIRE.
SHE'S GONNA BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
ANA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, MIA, AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ALSO NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL AND IMMEDIATE PASTOR CHAIR OF THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM.
AND THEN SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF THIS EVENING, I'M SPEAKING AGAINST ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN.
I HOPE THIS COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER AT A MINIMUM OF FOLLOWING THESE ITEMS. I HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THESE ITEMS DUE TO THE UNEQUAL IMPACT THESE WILL HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, PARTICULARLY IN VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.
THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT ALL RESIDENTS DO NOT NEED VEHICLES.
THERE ARE MANY CAREERS AND LIFE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT DO REQUIRE A VEHICLE.
THE DIVERSITY OF ALL RESIDENTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND I'M AFRAID THIS IS NOT BEING CAREFULLY CONSIDERED UNDER THESE, THESE CIRCUMSTANCES.
THE IMPACT ON CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WILL RESULTING INEQUITABLE OUTCOMES.
NEIGHBORHOODS THE MOST VULNERABLE ARE THOSE WITHOUT BIG RESTRICTIONS AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
I WAS HOPING THE BACKUP MATERIALS WOULD INCLUDE WHICH AREAS ARE BEING TARGETED AND WHICH AREAS DO NOT HAVE DEEP RESTRICTIONS OR ARE NOT PART OF THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
I LIVE IN DUB SPRINGS AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PROTECTIONS FROM HAVING COMMERCIAL LESS PROPERTIES IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO BE SUBJECTED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOMES JUST BECAUSE WE'RE THE MOST VULNERABLE? AND JUST BECAUSE THIS POLICY WILL RESULT IN DEVELOPERS BEING ALLOWED TO DO WHAT TO DO, THAT TO US COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SHOULD NOT CONTINUE TO BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
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RESULT IN AN INCREASE IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES.WE'RE ALREADY GETTING GENTRIFIED ALONG OUR CORRIDORS AND, AND ALTHOUGH I HAVE ASKED, THERE HAS STILL NOT BEEN ANY REPORT FROM THE CITY DEMONSTRATING HOW THE PROJECT CONNECT ANTI DISPLACEMENT FUNDS HAVE PRESENTED ADDITIONAL GENTRIFICATION.
HOW IS THIS NOT AN EXAMPLE OF INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM WHEN WORKING ON THESE PROPOSED RESOLUTIONS WHERE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WERE CONSULTED AS STAKEHOLDERS? HOW IS THE MEMBER OF THE PROJECT CONNECT CATALYST GROUP THAT HELPED WITH DEVELOPING THE EQUITY TOOL FOR PROJECT CONNECT? HOW HAS THE TOOL ACTUALLY BEEN USED TO HELP COMMUNITIES OF COLOR? IS THE TOOL EVEN BEING USED NOW? I CANNOT TAKE CREDIT FOR THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT AND THE AUTHOR IS UNKNOWN, BUT IT HAS BEEN STATED WHEN THOSE OF US IMPACTED THE MOST ARE NOT AT THE TABLE.
WE'RE DEFINITELY ON THE PLATE.
THOSE OF US THAT ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE ARE ON THE ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN PLACED.
I'M ASKING THAT WE BE INCLUDED AS STAKEHOLDERS IN THE FUTURE IN REGARDS TO THIS PROCESS.
I'M ASKING THAT WE BE INVITED TO THE TABLE.
AGAIN, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SHOULD NOT CONTINUE TO BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CONSIDERATION, AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THE ITEM.
UM, YEAH, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM SEVEN.
MOTION AND SECONDED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, ALTHOUGH IN FAVOR SAY AYE, YOU UNANIMOUS, UM, DISCUSSION? SURE.
UH, I WAS HOPING TO TALK ABOUT ITEM SEVEN.
SO, UM, WELL, SO THIS ITEM CAME UP ACTUALLY.
UH, I HAD BEEN SPEAKING WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG ORIGINALLY BECAUSE, UM, WE REGULARLY ARE PUTTING, WE'RE PUTTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ON ZONING REQUESTS THAT WERE ON HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT CORRIDORS.
AND WE PROVIDED THE LIST THAT'S ATTACHED TO THIS RESOLUTION, UM, TO STAFF WHEN THEY WERE CONSIDERING THE EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
UH, ALL THIS RESOLUTION IS DOING IS EXTENDING THIS CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT, AGAIN, WAS ALREADY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ONTO THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS.
SINCE THEY'RE ALREADY MAPPED AND THEY'RE ALREADY PART OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING PROCESS BECAUSE THEY SHOW UP IN OUR PACKET AS THE IMAGINE AUSTIN DECISION GUIDELINE.
COMPLETE COMMUNITY MEASURES, UH, IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS ARE THE PLACES WHERE HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT IS EITHER CURRENTLY RUNNING OR IS SLATED TO BE DELIVERED OVER THE COMING DECADES.
SO WE DON'T WANNA REINFORCE THE PRIMACY OF AUTOMOBILES ON THESE CORRIDORS.
SO ALL WE DID WAS WE CUT AND PASTE FROM THE E TODD PROPOSAL AND IF THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO AMEND THAT LIST, THAT'S AKAY BY ME
UM, BUT WE THINK THAT THIS LIST DESERVES TO BE APPLIED ANYWHERE THAT THERE'S HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT, NOT JUST WHERE LIGHT RAIL IS BEING BUILT, BECAUSE AS THE SPEAKER IS SAYING, THE LIGHT RAIL IS ONLY GOING TO BE BUILT IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERY, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THE CITY DESERVES, UM, THE SAME SORT OF TREATMENT.
UM, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE A PLACE THAT IS MORE WALKABLE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IN CLOSING, I WOULD SAY WE'RE IN A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILD HOUSING FOR PEOPLE, NOT PERSONAL STORAGE, NOT PARKING LOTS, NOT CAR WASHES, NOT PAWN SHOPS, NOT DRIVE THROUGH FAST FOOD AND NOT SCRAP YARDS ON OUR MAIN CORRIDORS.
AND THAT IS THE INTENTION OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST GETTING THE PROCESS STARTED.
THEY WOULD GO TO CLOSING ORDINANCES AND THEN GO THROUGH A WHOLE LITANY OF PROCESSES BEYOND THAT.
BUT THIS IS BASICALLY SAYING THIS IS THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS THING MOVING AS A, AS A PROCESS.
UM, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION TODAY, IT WOULD SIMPLY BE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE BRING IT TO JOINT CODES AND ORDINANCES.
AND IF WE GOES TO JOINT CODES AND ORDINANCES, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO SEND IT TO CITY COUNCIL TO, UM, SHARE IT WITH STAFF FOR A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT.
AND THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC INPUT DURING THE ENTIRE PROCESS, BUT IT'S GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.
YEAH, I JUST HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
I'M WONDERING WHY IT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE JOINT PLANNING PROCESS, WHICH THE PLAN IS ACTUALLY BEING RECONSIDERED AND THERE IS A COMMITTEE THAT'S DEDICATED TO RECONSIDERING ELEMENTS OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SHEBANG.
SO I'M, I'M WONDERING WHY WE WOULD CIRCUMVENT THAT ENTIRE PROCESS, WHICH IS
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ACTUALLY ACTIVELY IN, YOU KNOW, UNDERWAY.I, I, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S GONNA GO TO A LOT OF PROCESSES.
THIS IS JUST ALLS WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS SAYING, RIGHT? I KNOW WE WANT TO GET IT STARTED.
SHOULD BE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE JOINT PLANNING PROCESS.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY SUGGESTING A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE JOINT PLAN.
BUT SO SHOULDN'T IT START THERE WITH THE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND WITH THE PLANNING TEAM STAFF? IT WOULD GO THERE FOR REVIEW.
IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY START THERE.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY COULD HAVE STARTED IT, BUT WHY WOULDN'T IT START THERE THOUGH? MAYBE IT WILL.
WHY IT START? WHY WOULD IT START THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS OF CODIFYING IT BEFORE IT'S EVEN IN CONSIDERED IN THE PLANNING? I, I'M NOT SURE THE QUESTION.
'CAUSE AGAIN, ALLS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE BALL ROLLING.
IT'S GONNA GO TO A LOT OF, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE BALL STARTS ROLLING IN THE PLANNING, NOT IN THE IMPLEMENTATION.
WE'RE NOT IN THE IMPLEMENTATION, WE'RE IN THE, THIS IS THE PLANNING.
WE'RE, WE'RE WANTING TO GET THE PLANNING RIGHT.
CODES AND ORDINANCES AND THE COUNCIL ARE IMPLEMENTATION OR DECISION MAKING, RIGHT.
VERSUS PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THIS WHOLE PLANNING PROCESS.
AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD START.
UH, HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT THAT PROCESS HAPPEN? UH, HOW, HOW WOULD YOU GET THIS PROPOSAL TO GET THERE? I I MEAN I, WE HAVE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES, UM, ON THIS BODY THAT ARE PARTICIPATING ACTIVELY IN THAT.
SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A HARD, HARD THING.
UM, SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT IF, UM, A PROPOSAL LIKE THIS WERE TO PASS ZONING AND PLATTING, YOU WOULD HAVE AN EASIER CHANCE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS BODY TO SAY THAT, UM, THIS CARRIES THE WEIGHT OF THIS BODY AS A RECOMMENDATION TO THAT COMMITTEE?
SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY THINKING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR HAVE A RESOLUTION.
UM, TO ME, THIS IS, YOU SAID YOU WANNA START THE BALL ROLLING ON THIS IDEA, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD START FOR SOME DISCOURSE AND DISCUSSION AND OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, SOME PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M JUST NOT THAT'S FINE, ISN'T IT? IT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE BYPASSING THE WHOLE IMAGINE AUSTIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING EXCUSE TO IMAGINE AUSTIN AND YOU'RE BYPASSING, WE'RE NOT MAKING THE ENTIRE IMAGINE AUSTIN PROCESS SO THAT, I'M, I'M CONFUSED BY THAT POINT OF POINT OF, UM, CLARIFICATION.
WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGE TO IMAGINE AUSTIN.
WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING THAT IMAGINE AUSTIN, WHICH IS MAPPED, SHOULD BE, UH, THE MAP THAT WE USE FOR THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY RATHER THAN THE PROJECT CONNECT MAP ALONE.
IT WAS JUST LIKE THOSE OVERLAYS DIDN'T CHANGE PROJECT CONNECT, THAT IT WAS THE MAP FOR PROJECT CONNECT THAT WAS USED FOR THE E TODD OVERLAY.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING, IMAGINE AUSTIN, WE'RE SUGGESTING USING THE IMAGINE AUSTIN MAP FOR THIS OVERLAY, RIGHT? AND IT WILL PROBABLY GO BEFORE CODES AND ORDINANCES AND JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION WILL GO BEFORE ALL THE COMMISSIONS FOR THEIR INPUT BEFORE IT EVER GOES TO CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF.
WE'RE JUST GETTING THAT SAYING, HEY, THIS IS AN IDEA.
WE WANNA FOLD OUT THERE AND GET IT STARTED.
IT'S GONNA GO BEFORE ALL THESE COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES BEFORE IT EVER GOES TO STAFF AND COUNCIL.
IT'S JUST GONNA START AT ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, AND THEN GO TO THE COMMITTEES FROM THERE.
IT COULD HAVE STARTED IF SOMEONE HAD BROUGHT IT UP.
IT COULD HAVE STARTED AT A COMMITTEE, BUT IT, IT DIDN'T HAVE STARTED HERE, BUT IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS REGARDLESS.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS WITH THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, THAT THE BACKUP DIDN'T GO UP UNTIL THIS MORNING.
AND SO MOST COMMISSIONERS AND THE PUBLIC DIDN'T SEE THIS UNTIL THIS MORNING.
IT'S KIND OF A LONG LIST OF USES.
IT MIGHT BE COPIED FROM THE EOD LIST, BUT MAYBE THE EOD LIST ISN'T QUITE CORRECT.
UM, I WOULD FEEL LIKE I WANNA LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE USES, FOR EXAMPLE, EQUIPMENT REPAIR WOULD BE PROHIBITED.
WOULD THAT BE APPLE IPHONE STORES OR COMPUTER REPAIR SHOPS OR BICYCLE REPAIR? WOULD THOSE BE, UM, PROHIBITED OR IS IT SOMETHING ELSE? SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT EQUIPMENT REPAIR IS AND I MEAN, THERE WERE OTHER USES THAT I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE HISTORIC SPECIAL USE, WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT? BUT I WOULD WANNA GO THROUGH THAT LIST MORE CAREFULLY.
I THINK A A POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE, UM, APPROPRIATE GIVEN THAT THE BACKUP WENT UP SO LATE.
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UM, IT REALLY, IT'S, IT IS ONE THING TO PUT CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ON NEW ZONING, BUT THIS IS PUTTING A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ONTO EXISTING ZONING AND EXISTING BUSINESSES.AND I WOULD WANNA KNOW HOW MANY EXISTING BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED IN A WAY THAT MAKES THEM NONCONFORMING BECAUSE THAT HAS CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE BUSINESSES.
AND, AND THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS IS A MUCH BIGGER, UM, PIECE THAN JUST THE E TODD.
UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED.
WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON, UM, EXISTING BUSINESSES? GIVE THE PUBLIC A LITTLE MORE TIME AND US TO, TO LOOK REALLY CAREFULLY AT THE LIST.
SO I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE POSTPONE SI DON'T KNOW, PERHAPS A MONTH.
YOU WANNA DO THAT FOR SIX AND SEVEN? UM, SURE.
I'M OKAY WITH DOING THAT FOR SIX.
I THINK WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON SIX THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD RESPECT THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN WAITING AND LET THEM SPEAK.
UM, BUT YES, I, I PROBABLY WOULD PROPOSE A POSTPONEMENT FOR SIX AS WELL.
THE SAME REASON THAT THE, UM, BACKUP DIDN'T GO UP UNTIL THIS MORNING.
I I, I DID WANT, UM, MENTION THAT THE INTENTION OF NUMBER SEVEN IS NOT TO, UM, MAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF BUSINESSES NON-CONFORMING IT'S FORWARD LOOKING.
SO, UM, UH, I DO AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE, THE POSTING OF THIS ITEM AND WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT AS WELL.
'CAUSE WE DID SUBMIT IT IN TIME FOR IT TO BE POSTED ON TIME AND IT, THE BACKUP DID NOT APPEAR IN TIME.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THAT ISSUE.
UM, BUT, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THIS ISSUE, I WOULD ASK, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG TO HELP WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGE THAT WOULD MAKE IT CLEAR, UM, OR STAFF THAT, UM, THIS WOULD BE FORWARD LOOKING NOT, UM, RETROACTIVE.
UM, BECAUSE THE INTENTION IS NOT TO MAKE ANY BUSINESS NONCONFORMING.
IT'S MOVING FORWARD AS ZONING REQUESTS COME THAT WE ARE, UM, UM, UPDATING TO MEET THE INTENTION OF OUR IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I'M NOT SURE HOW I WOULD CERTAINLY TRY TO HELP WITH THAT LANGUAGE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT WE MIGHT NEED PEOPLE THAT KNOW MORE, UM, TO HELP WITH THAT LANGUAGE, BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE TRY COMMISSIONER STERN.
COULD I ASK, ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, YEAH.
I DO REALLY WANNA UNDERSTAND, UM, THE GOAL HERE AND, UM, I, AND YOU KNOW, MY AUTHENTIC REACTION IS THAT LIKE SO MANY OF THESE BUSINESSES ARE, UH, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT, EXACTLY.
THEY'RE KIND OF PART OF THE FABRIC OF SOME OF THESE ARE, ARE BUSINESS TYPES THAT ARE PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND PEOPLE DO WALK TO THEM.
AND SO I'M, I'M JUST A LIT, COULD YOU HELP ME BETTER UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT YOUR THINKING IS ON WHY THESE THINGS SHOULDN'T BE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE? UM, SO IRONICALLY, 'CAUSE UM, THERE ARE TWO PROPOSALS TONIGHT.
UM, THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT ABOUT WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS ABOUT BEING ON OUR CORRIDORS.
THE SECOND PROPOSAL IS ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ITEM NUMBER SIX IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT BUSINESSES WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TALKING ABOUT OUR CORRIDORS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS, THOSE ARE HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT CORRIDORS AND WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, BUT WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THOSE COURT, LIKE PEOPLE ARE LIVING ON THOSE CORRIDORS, RIGHT? LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE, RIGHT? WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THOSE CORRIDORS SHOULD NOT BE, UM, AUTOMOBILE FOCUSED CORRIDORS.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THAT, I'M SURE YOU'VE EXPERIENCED THE SAME FEELING WHERE YOU START SEEING A SITE PREPPED AND YOU GET EXCITED THAT MAYBE THERE'LL BE MORE NEIGHBORS MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN IT TURNS OUT IT'S A STORAGE FACILITY.
UM, OR YOU SEE THE SITE BEING PREPPED AND IT TURNS OUT IT'S A STARBUCKS DRIVE THROUGH AND YOU THINK, UM, THERE COULD BE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE LIVING HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT A PAWN SHOP INSTEAD.
AND SO IT, IT'S NOT THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THERE BEING PERSONAL STORAGE, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA MOVE YOUR BEDROOM FURNITURE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA BRING A CAR.
AND THAT CAN BE ON A ROAD THAT NEEDS CARS WITH IT.
SO IT COULD BE ON A HIGHWAY ACCESS ROAD VERSUS ON A ROAD WHERE A BUS IS COMING EVERY 10 TO 15 MINUTES, THAT'S WHERE SOMEBODY CAN LIVE OR WORK OR A SHOP OR BE IN A HOTEL.
AND IF WE KEEP PUTTING THESE LARGE SURFACE LOTS OR STORAGE UNITS OR DRIVE-THROUGHS ON OUR MAJOR TRANSIT CORRIDORS, WE'RE NOT REALLY CREATING CONDITIONS THAT ARE CONDUCIVE TO BUILDING THE HOUSING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THESE CORRIDORS AND GETTING PEOPLE
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TO WALK AND USE TRANSIT OVER TIME.THAT THAT'S THE ONLY INTENTION THERE.
YEAH, I DO THINK SOME OF THESE USE SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED THOUGH BECAUSE THEY ARE SERVICES THAT, UM, FOLKS CAN, CAN AND NEED TO ACCESS ON FOOT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, I MEAN, I COULD PICK OUT A FEW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MY, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA OFF OF AIRPORT LAMAR AND A LOT OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL KENNEL PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS FOR DAYCARE.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS, THERE ARE THINGS HERE THAT PEOPLE, UM, NEED ACCESS TO IN THEIR CLOSE PROXIMITY.
AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HEARD FROM THE LAST CASE, DON'T WANNA MAKE IT HARDER FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO SUCCEED AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY EITHER.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF, OF THIS PROPOSAL.
IF I CAN BE REAL QUICK, I'VE GOTTA LEAVE THE DAIS.
SO I'M GONNA HAND THE CHAIR OVER TO BETSY AND SHE CAN RUN THE REST OF THE MEETING.
I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'VE GOT A EIGHT O'CLOCK APPOINTMENT.
UM, SO CHAIR, UH, COMMISSIONER DEPORT TO, YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION.
UH, WOULDN'T THE, UH, WOULDN'T THE BUSINESSES THAT EXIST RIGHT NOW, WOULDN'T THEY BE NON-CONFORMING USES? WOULDN'T THEY BE, BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE REGARDLESS OF, OF, OF THIS PLAN? WELL, I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS.
UM, WE CAN, WE CAN STILL HAVE A DISCUSSION EVEN IF WE OKAY, FINE.
YEAH, SO I MEAN, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT ITEM SIX, BUT MAYBE CAN THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO BEING NON-CONFORMING.
YOU MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING FINANCING TO UPGRADE YOUR PROPERTY.
UM, BUT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES AND I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD IGNORE THOSE CONSEQUENCES.
UM, AND THAT ISN'T EVEN THE INTENT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE INTENT IS TO HAVE A LIST OF USES THAT ARE GOING TO PROHIBIT BE PROHIBITED AS WE REZONE IN THE FUTURE.
SO I THINK THIS IS GREAT THOUGH.
I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE AND I AGREE.
I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE BUILDING STORAGE UNITS ALL OVER WAY FASTER THAN WE'RE MOVING.
SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT I AGREE THAT MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO POSTPONE AND TALK ABOUT THESE USES, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AND AT LEAST STARTING ON THIS CONVERSATION, SAME FEELING ON, HEY, SOMETHING'S MOVING HERE.
WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING NICE AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE A STORAGE FACILITY.
IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING OUR LONG AIRPORT BOULEVARD THAT STARBUCKS WON'T HAPPEN TO ME.
SO
I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO REVIEW THE LIST OF THINGS AND CLARIFY THEM, AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVING THE LANGUAGE AND REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS.
BUT ULTIMATELY THIS IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UH, WE DO HAVE A VISION FOR AUSTIN TO BE A PLACE WHERE IT IS SAFE AND CONVENIENT TO GET AROUND REGARDLESS OF THE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION YOU CHOOSE.
BUT WE, IN RESPECT TO WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE SPEAKER, THIS IDEA OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED THEIR CARS, YOU KNOW, NOTHING IN EITHER OF THESE PROPOSALS WOULD HAVE A REALLY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE EFFECT FOR THOSE WHO DRIVE EVERYWHERE.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE'VE INHERITED AND THE DECISIONS WE'VE BEEN MAKING UP UNTIL FAIRLY RECENTLY IN THE CITY OF OUR HISTORY HAVE BASICALLY TREATED THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE A CAR AS TO BE FRANK, SECOND CLASS CITIZENS.
AND THEY'VE BEEN AT BEST AFTERTHOUGHTS, LOOK AT OUR MASSIVE MISSING AMOUNTS OF SIDEWALKS AND, YOU KNOW, THE FATALITIES AND OUR JUST REALLY MESSY GRID THAT MAKES IT SO WE JUST TO MAKE THINGS GETTING KIND OF CLOSE TO E EQUAL IN TERMS OF HAVING EQUITY BETWEEN THOSE WHO CANNOT DRIVE OR CHOOSE NOT TO DRIVE AND THOSE WHO DO MEANS WE HAVE TO DO SO MUCH MORE.
AND THIS I THINK IS A CRUCIAL STEP.
UH, AND IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE SPEAKER ABOUT, UH, EQUITY AND, YOU KNOW, CONS, CONSIDERING OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE, IT'S OUR MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS LIKELY TO HAVE ACCESS TO A PERSONAL VEHICLE.
SO DOING THINGS THAT MAKE IT EASIER TO LIVE AND TO BE PART OF SOCIETY WITHOUT A PERSONAL VEHICLE IS ESSENTIAL.
MY WIFE IS A FAIRLY RECENT IMMIGRANT, DOESN'T HAVE HER DRIVER'S LICENSE YET.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE A WHILE FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS FOR HER TO GET THAT
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RIGHT NOW.SHE CAN TAKE TRANSIT TO, OF SOME PLACES SHE CAN WALK TO SOME PLACES, BUT FOR IN MANY WAYS, LIKE MOST OF THE CITY IS INACCESSIBLE TO HER.
SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE TAKING SERIOUSLY.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, LET'S EXAMINE IT, LET'S WORK ON IT, BUT IT IS VERY MUCH GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
UM, UM, SO CHAIR I, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THE COMMENTS THAT CAME TONIGHT AND, UM, FOLLOW UP.
UM, AND I WOULD HAPPILY, UM, POSTPONE ITEM SEVEN, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, CONTINUE WITH ITEM SIX IF IT'S POSSIBLE THIS EVENING.
AT LEAST HER BE ABLE TO READ IT, UM, INTO THE RECORD.
UM, SO IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM SEVEN, I GUESS, UH, WHEN ARE WE SUPPOSED TO POSTPONE IT TO? UM, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK TO GO THROUGH THE USES AND FIGURE OUT LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS APPLIES TO FUTURE CASES, NOT CURRENT USES.
SO I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT IF I WERE, I AM JUST LOOKING FOR THE DATE.
SO WHEN IS OUR DATE IN? WILL YOU BE HERE? OCTOBER ONE.
SO, UH, MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM SEVEN TO OUR OCTOBER 1ST MEETING.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND.
WAS THERE A SECOND? THE MOTION? I'M SORRY.
WAS THERE A SECOND FLORIS? NO, UM, IT WAS DEPORT TWO.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE POSTPONEMENT? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT.
SO WE WILL POSTPONE ITEM SEVEN TO, UM, OCTOBER 1ST.
AND NOW I HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE THING FOR, THAT'S
UM, I CAN READ IT IF YOU WANT ME.
COMMISSIONER STERN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT AND FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR COMMENTS? DO YOU WANNA READ 'EM? I'LL READ IT.
UH, SO THIS IS, THAT'S A LITTLE SHORTER TOO.
UH, RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW SOME COMMERCIAL USES IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
SO WHEREAS CURRENT CITY OF AUSTIN LAND USE SEPARATES RESIDENTIAL HOMES FROM COMMERCIAL USES, MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR INDIVIDUALS TO ACCESS SERVICES WITHOUT THE USE OF AN AUTOMOBILE.
AND WHEREAS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE TRADITIONALLY AN ATTRACTIVE OPTION FOR FAMILIES, INCLUDING MEMBERS THAT MAY NOT OWN OR BE ABLE TO DRIVE.
AND WHEREAS A MAJORITY OF AUSTIN'S RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BUILT AFTER 1960 AND THEREFORE WERE NOT DESIGNED ON A WALKABLE GRID PATTERN.
AND WHEREAS SOME OF AUSTIN'S MOST BELOVED CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS, IE CLARKSVILLE, HYDE PARK, CRESTVIEW BOLDEN OFFER HISTORIC AND REPLICABLE EXAMPLES OF HOW A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES AND COMMERCIAL USES CAN BE COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LIFE AND ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY.
AND WHEREAS AUTOCENTRIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS DON'T SUPPORT THE SAME KIND OF SOCIAL INTERACTIONS, NEIGHBORHOOD COHESION OR SAFETY VIA EYES ON THE STREET THAT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS DO.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN HAS IDENTIFIED A 50 50 MODE SPLIT GOAL BY 2039.
AND MANY PERSONAL TRIPS ARE WITHIN 2.5 MILES OF THE HOME, WHICH IS BEYOND THE REACH OF WALKING.
AND WHEREAS WALKING OR RIDING A BICYCLE ON MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADS IS AN UNCOMFORTABLE OR UNSAFE OPTION FOR MANY RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY THE YOUNG, THOSE LIVING WITH DISABILITIES AND OLDER ADULTS.
AND WHEREAS MANY RESIDENTS CANNOT ACCESS MEDICAL COUNSELING, PET CONVENIENCE OR PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICES, SERVICES THAT SUPPORT AGING IN PLACE WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF A DRIVER AT PERSONAL EXPENSE OR THE SUPPORT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.
AND WHEREAS MANY PARTS OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN INCLUDE GROCERY STORE DESERTS, TRANSIT DESERTS, AND MEDICAL SERVICE DESERTS WITH NO CURRENT HOSPITAL OPERATING EAST OF IH UH, OF INTERSTATE 35.
AND WHEREAS WE ELIMINATED PARKING MINIMUMS ACROSS THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN ORDER TO, AMONG OTHER GOALS, ALLOW MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.
AND WHEREAS THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN INCLUDED SEVERAL STATED LIVABILITY OBJECTIVES, INCLUDING BULLET 0.1, PROMOTE A COMPACT AND CONNECTED CITY, UH, TWO DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING IN CONNECTED AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PATTERNS, SUPPORTING TRANSIT AND URBAN LIFESTYLES AND REDUCING SPRAWL WHILE PROTECTING AND ENHANCING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THREE, DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING ACROSS THE CITY IN A MANNER FRIENDLY TO FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, SENIORS AND INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.
FOUR, AUSTIN'S UNIQUE CHARACTER AND LOCAL BUSINESSES BEING RECOGNIZED AS A VITAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
FIVE CLEAR GUIDELINES SUPPORTING BOTH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION THAT SUSTAIN AND IMPROVE AUSTIN'S CHARACTER AND PROVIDE CERTAINTY FOR RESIDENTS IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND SIX, AUSTIN'S DIVERSE POPULATION BEING ACTIVE AND HEALTHY WITH ACCESS TO LOCALLY GROWN NOURISHING FOODS AND AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS ALREADY APPROVED DAYCARE SERVICES, GENERAL DAYCARE SERVICES, LIMITED ADULT CARE SERVICES, GENERAL ADULT CARE, SER ADULT CARE SERVICES, LIMITED CHILDCARE
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SERVICES GENERAL AND CHILDCARE SERVICES.LIMITED TO THE LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING CATEGORIES.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE FOLLOWING COMMERCIAL USES BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY ZONING CATEGORIES AS LONG AS THEY A MITIGATE NEW AUTOMOTIVE TRIPS BY EMPLOYING TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT, TDM TECHNIQUES, AUDI OUTLINED IN THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL TCM AND B AGREE TO AN INSPECTION EVERY THREE YEARS TO CONFIRM THAT THE BUSINESS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ITS TDM PLAN OR LOSE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY UNTIL THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
UH, ITEM ONE, COUNSELING SERVICES.
MEDICAL OFFICES NOT EXCEEDING 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR SPACE.
GENERAL RETAIL SALES CONVENIENCE.
PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICES.
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE FOLLOWING USES BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF CONDITIONAL USES IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY AND ALL MULTI-FAMILY ZONING CATEGORIES.
CONSUMER CONVENIENCE SERVICES.
DID YOU, ONE OF YOU WANT TO KICK OFF THE DISCUSSION OR DO WE WANT TO GO STRAIGHT TO POSTPONEMENT? I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO KNOW.
OH, SPEAKERS, YOU HAVE A SPEAKER? SPEAKER.
SO WE HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
OUR PRIMARY SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION IS GONNA BE SUSANNA SARVA.
SUSANNA, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
UM, I HAVE PREPARED SOME SLIDES.
I HAVE EMAILED THOSE AND HAVE RECEIVED EMAIL BACK THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE AND I'M NOT SURE HOW TO, DO I USE THIS THING TO ADVANCE THROUGH THE SLIDES? THE RIGHT BUTTON.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, HELLO, GOOD EVENING.
I AM A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER ON HARVEY STREET, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO OPPOSED TO THE COMMERCIAL USES IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I'M NOT IN A BLANKET OPPOSITION, BUT THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKING AND ENFORCEMENT THAT COME WITH THESE.
I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT TO MAKE PLACES WALKABLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL THE CARS DRIVE INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S NO PARKING, NO ENFORCEMENT AND CHALLENGES WITH INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO TODAY.
UM, SO LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO ZEDS, WHICH IS NEXT DOOR TO MY HOME.
UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEY HAVE 18 PLUS 20 PLUS 25 PLUS PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE.
THEY HAVE RECENTLY EXPANDED THEIR BUSINESS.
UH, THEY HAVE TWO FOOD TRUCKS, 16 BIG PICNIC TABLES.
THEY HAVE ADDED A KIDS' PLAYGROUND AND THEY ONLY FEATURE SIX PARKING SPOTS.
AND THEY HAVE NOT ADDED AS THEY TOOK DOWN A HOME TO CONVERT TO THE PLAYGROUND ANY PARKING SPACES, BUTTONS.
UM, THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS INCREASED TRAFFIC.
UH, THERE ARE MANY, MANY PARKING ISSUES AND THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS DELAYS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THE ENFORCEMENT IS SEVERELY LACKING, UH, TO PROVIDE SAFE ACCESS, UH, TO RESIDENTS.
UM, THIS IS SORT OF, UH, DEMONSTRATING THE WIDTH, UM, OF THE STREET ON HARVEY STREET, WHICH IS, UH, RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF HARVEY AND MLK, SPECIFICALLY FOR D Z'S BUSINESS.
UH, IT'S 30 FEET WIDE AND WITH 16 FEET, UH, FOR TRAVEL LANES BOTH DIRECTION.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR CARS TO SAFELY PASS EACH OTHER.
UM, I'VE LOOKED UP THE ACTUAL WIDTHS, I'VE SEEN THIS IN PERSON, BUT I'VE LOOKED UP THE WIDTH OF CAR.
AND SO TOYOTA CAMRY WITH ITS WIND, UH, UH, MIRRORS IS ABOUT SIX AND A HALF FEET WIDE, BUT IF YOU TAKE A FOUR, THAT ONE 50, IT'S GONNA BE ALMOST 7.5.
AND WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY DRIVES A COMPACT SEDAN IN AUSTIN.
AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL STREETS LIKE THE HARVEY STREET, WERE NOT DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, BUSINESSES, UH, THAT THEY GENERATE.
THIS LEADS TO, UH, CONGESTION AND UNSAFE CONDITIONS FOR RESIDENTS.
UM, I'VE CREATED THIS DIAGRAM, AND IT IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO.
THIS IS A SCENARIO I HAVE WITNESSED MYSELF LIVING RIGHT THERE.
I'M THE NUMBER NINE TRYING TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.
UM, THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE, UH, CARS THAT ARE PASSING EACH OTHER WILL PULL OVER.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO PULL OVER.
THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY CARS PULLING FROM PARKING LOT FROM ADJACENT STREET, SO THEY CAN'T BACK OUT EITHER.
AND SO THEY HAVE TO CAREFULLY WITH JUST INCHES
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TO PASS EACH OTHER TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS CARS PULL NUMBER FOUR OUT OF THE PARKING SPOTS FROM ZEDS, IF YOU TURNING FROM MLK INTO MY OWN HOME, I AM NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY GET ONTO THE STREET SUDDENLY.
AND I AM ENDANGERED BY ONCOMING TRAFFIC ON MLK.
YOU SEE THE NUMBER FIVE OVER THERE, UM, THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN.
BETWEEN THE TIME I DECIDE TO TURN AND START TURNING, THE CAR WILL PULL OUT AND I'M UNABLE TO ACTUALLY GET THERE.
AND I'M JUST WAITING TO BE T-BONED.
UM, THERE'S A VIDEO IN THE APPENDIX THAT SHOWS SORT OF THIS CLUSTER OF CARS COMING THROUGH AND THAT JUST KEEPS COMING AND PEOPLE TRYING TO, UH, PASS EACH OTHER.
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY PARKING ISSUES.
UM, I HAVE COLLECTED ALL OF THE SERVICE AND INCIDENT REQUESTS FROM 3 1 1 AND 9 1 1, UH, PEOPLE PARKING IN NO PARKING ZONES, PARKING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, WHICH CREATES HAZARD WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO PULL OUT OF THE PARKING SPOTS.
UM, BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, FREQUENTLY BLOCKING MY DRIVEWAY.
THESE SERVICE REQUESTS ARE SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR MY DRIVEWAY BEING BLOCKED IN THE TOP CENTER IMAGE.
YOU WILL SEE THAT, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS IN, UH, INSTALLED FLEXI POLES TO TRY TO GENERATE SORT OF THIS IDEA OF DON'T PARK HERE, THERE'S THE LITTLE ELK CORNERS, AND PEOPLE IGNORE IT AND STILL PARK THERE.
THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE THAT'S BEEN ADDED TO MY DRIVEWAY, UM, TO INDICATE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT PARK THERE.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL BUSINESS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UM, HARVEY STREET, THAT'S BIRDIE'S THAT HAS BEEN, UH, THROUGH SIMILAR ISSUES.
THEY HAVE INSTALLED RESIDENT ONLY PARKING.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAS ONLY ALLEVIATED ON THEIR SIDE, PARTIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S LACKING ENFORCEMENT ON ALL OF THE PARKING, ON ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS.
AND SO ULTIMATELY, I THINK THE CITY MUST ADDRESS THE PARKING AND ENFORCEMENT ISSUES BEFORE ALLOWING MORE COMMERCIAL USES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ANY OF THE THINGS IN THE APPENDIX, WE CAN GO INTO THAT, BUT I CAN ALSO STOP HERE AND YOU CAN REVIEW THAT AT YOUR OWN TIME.
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, I'M NOT AGAINST COMMERCIAL USES.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT THE ACTUAL RESULT THAT'S HAPPENING, THAT IS ADVERTISING ALL OVER THE CITY.
IT'S GETTING ON BEST OF ICE CREAM PLACES.
SO PEOPLE ARE DRIVING INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN GETTING PRIMARY TRAFFIC FROM WALKABLE INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE GOING AND GETTING ICE CREAM.
I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSAN MORRISON.
SUSAN WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
SUSAN, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
SUSAN, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
WE, WE CAN HEAR, HEAR YOU NOW.
MY NAME IS SUSAN MORRISON AND I'M SPEAKING AGAINST THIS RECOMMENDATION YOU'RE CALLING IT OR PROPOSAL YOU'RE REFERRING IT TO, BECAUSE AS A BODY OF OF COMMISSIONERS, YOU ARE TO CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH MEANS YOU SIT IN A, UM, UNBIASED POSITION, NO, TO CONSIDER THINGS BASED ON THE FACTS, NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CREATE.
AND YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN THIS BEFORE YOU BECAME COMMISSIONERS.
I'M A RETIRED ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTED SCHOOL BOARDS, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS AND DUE PROCESS.
ONCE YOU, UH, DECIDE AN ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED, YOU ARE DISQUALIFIED FROM SITTING AS A DETERMINER FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED, AND NEITHER SHOULD.
NUMBER SEVEN, THE REASON THAT EVEN THOUGH I WAS A CO-FOUNDER OF THE FIRST CONGRESS FOR NEW URBANISM LOCAL CHAPTER, I'M AGAINST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN, UH, ALLENDALE AND SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE ONCE A COMMERCIAL
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BUILDING COMES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE 24 7 SECURITY LIGHTING.YOU HAVE AIR CONDITIONER NOISE AT 70 DECIBELS, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY ALLOWS.
YOU HAVE EXHAUST FANS BLOWING INTO PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OVER THE FENCE LINE.
YOU HAVE TRASH SMELLS AND COLLECTION NOISE HAPPENING AT 4:00 AM 5:00 AM AND THE CARS ARE BLOCKING THE STREETS.
AS THE OTHER SPEAKER MENTIONED, IF, IF CITIZENS WATCH LAST THURSDAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 29TH, THE COLD SILENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S PLEAS FOR HELP IN RELATION TO THESE PROBLEMS OF SOUND POLLUTION, LIGHT POLLUTION, HEAT POLLUTION INTO THEIR BACKYARDS, LACK OF SLEEP, THE DEAD SILENCE THAT WAS MET BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON APPEAL AND, AND UH, CONTINUED.
UH, THE NUISANCES OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS RIGHT NEXT TO NEIGHBORS SHOWS THAT THIS NEW URBANISM IS NOT WORKING IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.
IT IS A BASTARDIZED VERSION OF WHAT ANDRES DEWANI FIRST PROPOSED WITH CNU CONGRESS FOR NEW URBANISM.
AND IT'S SICKENING THAT THIS IS BEING RAN ROTTED THROUGH WITH THESE KINDS OF PROPOSALS WITH ONE DAY'S NOTICE.
I HEARD ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY ON A HOLIDAY, AND I'VE WAITED TO SPEAK UNTIL, WHAT IS IT, EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
FURTHERMORE, YOUR AUDIO GOES IN AND OUT FOR, FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE LISTENING.
AND SO WE MISS SOME OF THE SPEAKERS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS OPTION, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE QUALITY.
MA'AM, THAT WAS TIME OF NOT LOSING THE ABILITY TO HEAR IF YOU'RE NOT IN PERSON.
WE'LL LOOK IN, ASK THE MEDIA PEOPLE TO LOOK INTO THE AUDIO, WHICH ON OUR END IS SOUNDING PERFECT.
I THINK SHE MIGHT BE REFERRING TO WHEN, UH, THE GENTLEMAN WAS SPEAKING FROM ALL THE WAY OVER THERE AND NOT AT, NOT AT THE DAIS.
NO, IT HAPPENED FOR THE COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AND, UH, SPEAKERS BOTH.
I GUESS WE CAN GO BACK AND SILENCES OF DISCONNECTION.
AND IT'S NOT ON MY END BECAUSE I HAVE PLENTY OF BARS.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE VIDEO ON MY PHONE OR THE VIDEO WILL BE POSTED, AND PERHAPS WE CAN SEE, UM, EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, I WELL, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? NO CHAIR.
THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS AND VOTE ON THEM.
UM, WE DO HAVE A STAFF ATTORNEY, UM, MR. ORTEGA, HAS HE WEIGHED IN ON THIS MATTER? UM, THERE'S A CITY ATTORNEY FOR THIS MEETING.
WE'RE CHECKING WITH HIM RIGHT NOW.
SO, BUT, UM, I THINK IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE WAIT TO HEAR IF THE ATTORNEY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY,
DO WE WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOW? YES, WE'RE DONE WITH SPEAKERS THEN.
LET'S, IS THERE A MOTION TO I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOW? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER STERN AND, UM, COMMISSIONER ZUKI.
SO FIRST FROM STERN SECOND FROM ZUKI TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE A VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
AND DO COMMISSIONERS WANT TO DISCUSS THIS PROPOSAL? YES, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UM, AND IS IT OKAY IF WE KIND OF GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS? UM, SO, UM, I GUESS, UH, YOU ONLY GET THREE MINUTES TOTAL.
UH, WELL, SO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER PKI AND I, UM, WE STARTED, UH, WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A, A MORE WALKABLE CITY.
AND THAT, UM, EVEN IF YOU NEED TO DRIVE TO GET TO WORK, UM, WHEN YOU GET HOME, YOU SHOULDN'T NEED TO DRIVE.
AND THERE'S A MISMATCH BETWEEN THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE EVEN ON OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS AND THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THIS IS REALLY AN ANTI CONGESTION MEASURE.
UH, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE, YOU
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SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO THE STORE.UM, IF YOU NEED A BAG OF ICE, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND, UM, FOR ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE, UM, YOU SHOULD KNOW, I, I LIVED ON 13TH STREET BETWEEN HARVEY AND CLIFFORD.
I I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS TACO X AND THE BARBECUE PLACE, AND IT WASN'T THE SAME AS ZEDS AND BIRDIE.
SO I, I FEEL YOU, I I KNOW, ALTHOUGH I LIVED ACROSS FROM MOUNTS ZION BAPTIST CHURCH.
SO I, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN THE ENTIRE STREET IS FULL OF CARS.
UM, BUT WHY, WHY DO THIS NOW? UM, WELL, IT MAKES SENSE NOW IN THE CONTEXT OF RECENT CITY COUNCIL INITIATIVES, WHICH INCLUDE THE HOME EO ORDINANCE, THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REDUCTIONS, AND ALSO GETTING RID OF MINIMUM PARKING.
IT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE SENSE BEFORE.
AND THIS IS ONE, UH, INCREMENTAL STEP FURTHER TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN SUSTAIN THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF OUR REGION BY MAKING IT MORE WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE AND LIVABLE.
AND SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD, UM, THIS RESOLUTION WAS PARTLY INSPIRED BY THE RECENT DECISION BY AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL TO ALLOW CHILDCARE FACILITIES IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY ZONES ACROSS THE CITY.
AND AS A TRANSPORTATION DEMAND PROFESSIONAL, I KNOW THAT CHILDCARE IS ONE OF THE TOP FIVE REASONS THAT PEOPLE GIVE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO USE AN ACTIVE OR A SHARED MODE TO COMMUTE TO WORK.
AND THAT GOT US THINKING ABOUT WHAT OTHER REASONS MIGHT SOMEONE STILL NEED A CAR ONCE THEY GOT HOME? SO THE A SMP HAS A GOAL TO REDUCE DRIVE ALONE TRIPS TO 50 50 BY 2039, EVEN THOUGH THREE QUARTERS OF PEOPLE DRIVE ALONE, UM, AQUA BY IN 2019.
NOW, PART OF THE REASON PEOPLE DRIVE ALONE IS BECAUSE OF OUR EUCLIDEAN ZONING, WHICH MEANS WE SEPARATE HOUSING FROM ALL COMMERCIAL USES, WHICH MEANS IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, YOU LIKELY HAVE TO GO FURTHER AWAY THAN WALKING OR BIKING TO GET THERE.
SO IF YOU NEED AN EGG, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE PHARMACY, YOU NEED TO GO TO THE PET STORE, YOU WANNA DO YOGA, YOU WANT A QUICK BITE TO EAT OR COFFEE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET IN YOUR CAR.
AND EVEN IF THESE THINGS ARE NEARBY, THEY'RE MOST LIKELY ON A MAJOR CORRIDOR, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE COMFORTABLE OR ACCESSIBLE TO AN ELDER OR A YOUNG PERSON.
I MEAN, JUST THINK, WOULD YOU LET AN 8-YEAR-OLD CROSS SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD UNATTENDED? PROBABLY NOT, BUT YOU MIGHT ALLOW THEM TO CROSS A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.
SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD MADE IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOME BASIC, UH, NECESSITIES INSIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS RATHER THAN BRINGING AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE CORRIDORS.
UM, AND WE THOUGHT THIS IS MUCH LIKE THE CITY WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THE, THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE LIMITED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MIXED INTO THEIR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
UM, YOU'RE THINKING LIKE MADDIE'S OR, UH, TYRES DUN EMBOLDEN OR, YOU KNOW, FIRST LIGHT IN HYDE PARK, UM, THE CEDAR CORNER STORE IN CHESTNUT.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS IN MORE PARTS OF THE CITY RATHER THAN JUST THE, THE SORT OF HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, WE STARTED WITH, UM, LR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND BROUGHT IN A SMALL SUBSET THAT WE THOUGHT WERE LESS DISRUPT DISRUPTIVE TO RESIDENTIAL SETTINGS.
SO WE DIDN'T INCLUDE, UM, LIKE GROUP HOMES OR, UH, LARGE MEDICAL OR LARGE RESTAURANT OR PETTY CAB STORAGE.
UM, YEAH, EVEN ART WORKSHOPS OR GALLERIES.
WE MADE THAT CONDITIONAL SO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT 'CAUSE THEY COULD BRING LARGE AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC.
UM, BUT THE GOAL IS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY BIKER FOOT SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO GET IN THE CAR EVERY TIME THEY NEED EGGS OR ICE OR NEED TO GO TO THE PHARMACY.
SO, UM, WITH, UM, ONE PART THAT IS IN HERE, UM, DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THE ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ARE, ARE DEALING WITH, WITH ENFORCEMENT.
I DIDN'T, I ALSO AGREE, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, UM, JUST LEAVE THIS TO POLICE OR 3 1 1 FOR ENFORCEMENT.
SO WE SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED THE, UM, LANGUAGE ABOUT MITIGATING NEW AUTOMOBILE TRIPS BY EMPLOYING TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES OUTLINED IN THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, AND AGREEING TO AN INSPECTION EVERY THREE YEARS TO CONFIRM THAT THE BUSINESS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS PLAN.
AND THAT WAY, IF THEY DON'T, THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
AND SO THAT KIND OF CIRCUMVENTS THE ENFORCEMENT THING.
NOW, YES, IT COULD BE THREE YEARS BEFORE THAT GETS ENFORCED, UM, BUT ACTUALLY, UM, THAT WOULD STOP IT FROM JUST GOING ON AND ON AND ON IN, UM, PERPETUITY.
AND IT WOULD ALSO MAKE THOSE BUSINESSES ACTUALLY, UM, AWARE THAT IF, IF THEY KEEP DOING THAT, THEY'RE GONNA LOSE THEIR CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY.
UM, AND FINALLY WE'RE, UM, SUGGESTING THIS IN SINGLE FAMILY, IN ALL SINGLE FAMILY AND ALL MULTIFAMILY.
UM, RIGHT NOW, COMMERCIAL USES ARE ONLY EMBEDDED IN MULTIFAMILY WHEN THE PROPERTY IS VMU OR PUD ZONE.
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UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS BASICALLY JUST DEPARTMENTS.SO, UM, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IN THESE AREAS OF TOWN WHERE THESE LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING UP, THAT THEY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE SOMETHING USEFUL IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR IN THEIR, IN THEIR COMPLEX.
AND THEN JUST, UM, SINCE WE'RE HERE, I, I WANNA CLARIFY AGAIN FOR THOSE LISTENING AND THEN EVEN HERE, UM, WE AGREE THAT, UM, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED EARLIER SO THAT THERE WAS MORE TIME TO PARTICIPATE.
AND, UM, I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND WHEN WE GET TO IT THAT THIS BE, UM, PUSHED TO THE OCTOBER 1ST DATE SO THAT THERE'S MORE TIME FOR PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH IT.
BUT, UM, STILL WE WANTED TO PRESENT THIS TONIGHT AND, UM, EVEN, UM, HAVE SOME DISCUSSION SO THAT WAY WHEN WE BRING IT BACK ON OCTOBER 1ST, IT CAN BE IN A BETTER, UM, FORMAT THAN IT IS TODAY.
AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS THAT YOU MIGHT SHARE THEM WITH US TONIGHT.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN, UH, APPROACH YOU SEPARATELY, UM, TO WORK ON MAKING IT A BETTER RESOLUTION.
SO WE RECEIVED WORD BACK FROM OUR ATTORNEY ON DUTY, AND Y'ALL HAD A QUESTION IF THERE WAS ANY INPUT TO THE CONVERSATION.
AND THE RESPONSE WE RECEIVED WAS THAT IT SHOULD BE CLARIFIED FOR ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN, THAT THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS AND NOT RESOLUTIONS.
BUT WE'RE ENTITLED TO DISCUSS THEM.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE TITLED RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, THIS MAY NOT BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I FEEL LIKE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THIS WOULD BE TO INCREASE CONNECTIVITY FOR PEDESTRIANS, NOT NECESSARILY FOR VEHICLES, BUT INCREASE.
THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A FEW NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY THAT ARE JUST MAJOR CUL-DE-SACS, WHERE TRAFFIC JUST KIND OF FUNNELS ALL THE WAY OUT INTO, INTO A MAJOR ARTERIAL.
SO IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN INCREASE THE CONNECTIVITY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT MIGHT BE A, A, A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO MAKING THESE, THESE COMMERCIAL, UM, UH, THESE COMMERCIAL, UH, ZONES WORK BETTER IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT NOT BE, UH,
UH, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE RECOMMENDED IN THERE.
UH, BUT YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE DO SEPARATELY.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A RECOMMENDATION ON IMPROVING CONNECTIVITY A FEW YEARS AGO, AND ONE THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT WE DON'T INITIATE CODE CHANGES, UM, ON THIS COMMISSION, SO WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND IT MAY GO INTO A BLACK HOLE.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS OR QUESTIONS? I, I DON'T HAVE A FULLY, OH, THERE'S SOME BAD SOUND SET OF COMMENTS, BUT I, I, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST FEELS LIKE THERE'S NO END TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO, TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I, I THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MAKE A ONCE IN A LIFETIME PURCHASE, RIGHT? THINKING THAT THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIVING AND, AND WE'RE CHANGING EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE PLACES WITHOUT ANY CONSENT AND, AND WITHOUT ANY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER WHAT'S HAPPENING OR WHERE THEY'RE LIVING ANYMORE.
AND SO IT JUST, IT, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO ABSORB ALL OF THE, THE PAIN
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING UP ENTIRE BLOCKS OF THIS CITY IN THE NAME OF DENSITY WHERE WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY SERVICES.
IT'S FROM, YOU KNOW, GROUND FLOOR TO NINTH FLOOR HOUSING WITH NO SERVICES AND NO PARKING.
AND WE'RE ASKING THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO JUST ABSORB MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
AND, AND IT JUST, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ILL CONCEIVED AND NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT, FRANKLY, JUST AS A, YOU KNOW, A PERSON WHO LONGS FOR COMMUNITY AND WHO HAS HAD COMMUNITY AND HAD COMMUNITY SEVERED BY THESE KIND OF DECISIONS THAT ARE REALLY NOT THINKING THROUGH WHAT MAKES WHAT MAKES A NEIGHBORHOOD A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SOME OF THOSE PLACES YOU'RE CALLING OUT, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY'RE LOVELY.
AND IN A LOT OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE CLUSTERED, RIGHT? IF YOU THINK ABOUT HYDE PARK OR YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, PARTS OF TERRYTOWN OR YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THESE, SOME OF THESE CORRIDORS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES AND DECADES NOW HAVE REALLY RICH AND VITAL SERVICES FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, YOU GO DOWN, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK ALL THE PLACES LIKE NORTH LOOP OR, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL WAYS
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TO CLUSTER THESE KINDS OF SERVICES SO THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS CORRIDOR DENSITY, RIGHT? AND SO TO DO THAT AND THEN TO ALSO DO THIS FEELS DISINGENUOUS.AND I'M SURE I CAN PUT SOME BETTER THOUGHT TOGETHER, BUT I JUST WANT TO REACT TO IT AND, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE IT'S DEEPLY CONCERNING TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAVE YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND BUY A HOUSE, AND THE NEXT DAY, A SEVEN 11 COULD TAKE OVER THE LOT NEXT DOOR.
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AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE VERY DESTRUCTIVE BECAUSE IT'S LEFT TO THE MARKET TO DECIDE WHAT GOES WHERE.
AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE THE MARKET PUTS THINGS, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA BE IN THE LOWER INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES, HOUSES THAT CAN BE DESTROYED, TORN DOWN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO COME TO MEETINGS LIKE THIS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN.
AND SO I, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR FIRST SPEAKER, WHOSE NAME I HAVE MISPLACED, UM,
WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO TELL US? UM, YES.
UM, I WANTED TO REACT TO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, ONE, UH, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE NEIGHBORHOODS WALKABLE.
UH, HOW IS THAT, UM, ENFORCED? HOW IS THAT EXPECTED OF THE BUSINESSES TO NOT ADVERTISE AND BRINGING ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO THAT'S, THAT'S MAYBE ONE QUESTION.
WHAT KIND OF PROVISIONS ARE MADE FOR THAT? AND TWO, YOU'RE SAYING A THREE YEAR ENFORCEMENT, I'M BLOCKED IN MY DRIVEWAY REGULARLY, AS YOU SAW BASED ON THE REPORTS.
A PD TAKES OVER 90 MINUTES TO RESPOND.
I CUT OFF MY FINGER MAKING DINNER.
HOW DO I LEAVE MY HOUSE? THIS IS NOT LIKE ONCE IN FOREVER THAT IT HAPPENS.
THIS HAPPENS MULTIPLE TIMES A MONTH.
IT USUALLY HAPPENS OBVIOUSLY WHEN I NEED TO GO BECAUSE I RUN INTO THAT SITUATION AND MANY MORE TIMES DID, I DID NOT CATCH THAT SITUATION OR DID NOT REPORT IT, OR I WAS WALKING OUT, WAS LOOKING FOR THE PERSON AND THEY HAPPENED TO LEAVE.
BUT THAT'S ALREADY DELAYING ME BEING ABLE TO GET TO PLACES, ME BEING ABLE TO GO SEE A CONCERT, GO TO AN APPOINTMENT THAT I NEED TO BE ON TIME, BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE I CAN'T LEAVE MY HOUSE.
IT IS, IN MY OPINION, UNACCEPTABLE TO SAY IT'S A THREE YEAR WAITING PERIOD.
AGAIN, I LOVE THOSE BUSINESSES TO BE THERE FOR THAT WALKABILITY.
AND WE'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, BUT THEN WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE OUTCOME WE ARE ACTUALLY CREATING AND SAYING WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL OUTCOME AND SAY, ARE WE DOING A THING THAT'S CREATING THE OUTCOME WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE? 'CAUSE I DO AGREE WITH YOUR OUTCOME THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO CREATE.
IT'S JUST WE ARE NOT CREATING THAT.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I WOULD HAVE A COMMENT THAT, UM, YES, I LIKE TO, WELL I ALREADY LIVE A BLOCK FROM GUADALUPE, SO THERE'S PLENTY TO WALK TO.
UM, BUT I DO ENJOY BEING ABLE TO WALK TO, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO Z'S, UM, BUT I DON'T WANT IT NEXT DOOR.
RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE OKAY WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR MOVING AWAY AND LIKE YOU SAID, A SOMEONE A SEVEN 11 OR A ZS MOVING IN BECAUSE YES, PEOPLE MIGHT, IT'D BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THESE SERVICES, BUT WE CAN'T STOP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING TO THEM AS WELL.
AND THEY WILL BE DRIVING TO THEM.
YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT ALL.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM WHEN WE GET A SLEW OF PEOPLE SAYING, YES, I WANT MY NEIGHBOR TO MOVE AWAY AND A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS TO COME IN ITS PLACE.
MAYBE I'LL THINK OTHERWISE, BUT FOR ME, I DON'T WANT MY NEIGHBOR TO MOVE AWAY IN A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS TO COME IN ITS PLACE.
WELL, SO, UM, CHAIR, I WOULD UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST A COUPLE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND.
UM, FIRST, UM, THE BOTH BUSINESSES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TODAY, THEY'RE BOTH ON CORRIDORS.
THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE ON MLK AND THEY'RE ON 12TH STREET, SO THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY, AND THEY STILL HAS PROBLEMS, SO THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY COMPARABLE.
BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS COMPARABLE WOULD BE FOND OF SAN MIGUEL OR RE THAT'S KIND OF A CORRIDOR, HANCOCK OR FIRST LIGHT BOOKSTORE OR THE HERB BAR.
THESE ARE ALL OFF OF CORRIDOR.
THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF I WERE TO TELL YOU THAT LARA, THE HERB BAR AND FOND OF SAN MIGUEL ARE CLOSING BECAUSE
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THEY'RE NONCONFORMING AND THEY'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WOULD TELL ME THAT OLD AUSTIN IS DYING.AND SO I I, IT'S HARD TO RECONCILE THAT WE'RE DESTROYING AUSTIN AND IF WE DO AND WE'RE DESTROYING AUSTIN IF WE DON'T.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.
UH, CAN I JUST SAY IN THE SPIRIT OF, IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, NONE OF THESE USES ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BRING IN A TON OF PEOPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, PET SERVICES FEELS LIKE SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD USE.
MAYBE A RESTAURANT WOULD PROBABLY BRING IN, BRING IN PEOPLE, BUT A LOT OF THESE SERVICES ARE JUST COMMUNITY SERVICES.
WHAT YOU, WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA WOULD, UH, WOULD BE USING.
SO I DON'T, MAYBE THE, MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE REVISED, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT MUCH TRAFFIC FROM, FROM ANY OF THESE USES.
I COULD, I MEAN, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT, AND WE PURPOSELY CHOSE THE, THE GENERAL RETAIL SALES IS NOT THE OVERNIGHT.
RE IF YOU SEE CONSUMER, UM, IF THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF RETAIL SALES FOR CONVENIENCE, WE CHOSE THE LESS INTENSE ONE.
THE SAME THING WITH RESTAURANT.
THERE'S RESTAURANT LIMITED AND RESTAURANT GENERAL, AND WE PUT GENERAL UNDER CONDITIONAL USE IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO APPROVE IT.
BUT, UM, LIMITED, UM, ON PURPOSE.
SO, UM, THAT WAY YOU COULD HAVE A, A TIE FRESH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT LIKE, UH, MATT'S L RANCHO.
AND I THINK, I THINK THOSE, THOSE EXAMPLES YOU'RE GIVING ARE GREAT.
BUT I DO THINK THEY'RE, THEY ARE SORT OF ON CORRIDORS AND THEN THEY'RE ON THE OUTSKIRTS EXTERIOR OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND SO JUST LEAVING IT OPEN TO HAVE BASICALLY NO, NO ZONING CONSIDERATIONS FOR PLACEMENT, I THINK IS WHERE IT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC.
NOT THAT THOSE AREN'T, THOSE ARE WONDERFUL EXAMPLES.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU GET THAT NECESSARILY BY THIS, RIGHT? THIS, THIS IS SORT OF ANYTHING GOES ANYWHERE.
WOULD THESE, WOULD THESE RECOMMENDATIONS JUST KIND OF BLANKET DO IT FOR ALL SINGLE FAMILY OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO REQUEST A REZONING FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR LOT IN, IN ORDER TO DO IT? WELL, THE PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW, ALLOW THESE USES IN SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY ZONING CATEGORIES.
THE REASON, I MEAN, MAYBE, WELL, IN ORDER TO GET THE BUSINESS, YOU'D STILL HAVE TO APPLY AND GET APPROVED FOR THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS.
BUT IT WOULD, UM, BE JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN OUR PACKET WHERE IF YOU ARE ZONED, THEN THESE ARE ALLOWABLE USES.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE, THE BUSINESS LICENSE.
WELL, UM, THAT LEADS ME TO A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
UM, GENERALLY BUSINESSES ARE NOT GOING TO BUILD, UH, BUILD ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IN WAY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE GONNA LOOK FOR, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ARTERIALS WHERE THEY CAN, WHERE THEY CAN GET A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC OR THEY CAN WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH OR WALK THROUGH.
UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUILD IT, YOU KNOW, WAY DEEP INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD UNLESS IT'S LIKE A DAYCARE OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T, I GUESS I DON'T, UM, I GUESS I DON'T ANTICIPATE A, A VERY LOUD OR OBNOXIOUS BUSINESS BEING BUILT DEEP WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL IT IS
I THINK YOU'LL HAVE THE LAST COMMENT AND THEN, WE'LL, WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU CLEARLY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, SO I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? THANK YOU,
THERE'S A HOME SHORTAGE IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE AGAINST, I I, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT SPEAKING AGAINST ZEDS AS BAD.
IT'S NOT THE ENFORCEMENT PARKING AND THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IS JUST UNMONITORED AND UNEXPECTED AND NOT HANDLED BY THE STREET.
WELL, I HAPPEN TO LIVE TOWARDS THE CORNER OF THE STREET.
IF I WAS IN THE INTERIOR, LIKE THE OWNER OF Z'S, HE DOESN'T GET THE SAME PROBLEMS ON HARVEY STREET BECAUSE HE LIVES ON THE CENTER OF THE STREET, NOT ON THE SIDES.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN DOWN A RESIDENTIAL HOME TO EXPAND THE BUSINESS WITHOUT ADDING PARKING.
SO IT KIND OF COUNTERACT SAYING, WE WANT WALKABLE BUSINESSES, WE WANT MORE HOMES WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXPANDING SO THAT THEY CAN MANAGE MORE PEOPLE TRAVELING IN.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXPECTED TO ABSORB THE TRAFFIC ISSUES WITHOUT ANY ENFORCEMENT, WITHOUT ANY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THIS.
AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXPECTED TO PAY FOR RESIDENT ONLY APPLICATIONS AND PARKING WITHOUT ANY ENFORCEMENT ON THAT RESIDENT ONLY PARKING.
'CAUSE NOBODY'S GONNA COME OUT IF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY EVEN PARKS THERE.
AND SO WHY ARE WE EXPECTED TO DO ALL THE WORK, APPLY PAY, AND GET ABSOLUTELY NO ENFORCEMENT? SO WE STILL GET NO RESOLUTION.
WE HAVE NO WAY TO GET ANY, I, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MONTHS,
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PHONE CALLS TO A PD NOTING DOWN, UM, ALL OF THE INCIDENT NUMBERS.AND THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, AUSTIN HAS TRIED, THEY PAINTED THAT THE CORNERS.
IT'S JUST NONE OF THAT IS HELPING BECAUSE WE ARE ASSUMING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OBEY THE SIGNAGE AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T.
IF I SEE THEM PARKING THERE AND ASK THEM NOT TO, THEY WILL FLIP ME OFF.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE LIVING IN TIME WHERE PEOPLE JUST DISRESPECT RULES AND DISRESPECT PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE'RE MAKING THESE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE ARE MAKING GOOD DECISIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OBEY THEM BECAUSE WE PUT UP NO PARKING SIGN.
SO AGAIN, WE JUST NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO REALITY TO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WHEN WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
AND THEN FIGURE OUT ARE THERE DIFFERENT ACCOMMODATIONS WE CAN DO? YES, YOU CAN HAVE A BUSINESS BUT YOU TO PAY FOR CERTAIN ENFORCEMENT.
IF THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES, MAYBE THE BUSINESS NEEDS TO ABSORB IT.
IF THEY WANT TO BRING IN THAT TRAFFIC.
ARE WE MONITORING HOW MUCH OF THAT TRAFFIC IS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW MUCH OF THAT TRAFFIC IS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD USING THE CARS? THERE'S AGAIN, NO MONITORING IN THREE YEAR TIMELINE IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE FOR ME HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT FOR THREE YEARS.
AND THAT UNDERSTANDING WHAT KIND OF RESOLUTION CAN BE MADE.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ACCOMMODATING ALL OF MY COMMENTS FOR LISTENING.
I REALLY HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER NOT ONLY HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE SET OUT, WHICH ARE GREAT, BUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT IN A WAY IT DOESN'T AFFECT NEIGHBORS, HOMEOWNERS LIKE MYSELF.
IS THERE A MOTION FROM A COMMISSIONER ON THIS CASE? I MOVE TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER SIX TO OCTOBER 1ST.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S A STERN AND ZUKI THEIR ITEM, SO I THINK THAT'S FINE.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION OF THE POSTPONEMENT? THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS IN THE INTERIM, IT SHOULD BE THOUGHT REALLY CAREFULLY ABOUT WHETHER THE, WHERE THIS APPLIES, DOES IT ARE HOAS AND CONDO REGIMES PROTECTED FROM THIS KIND OF INTRUSION INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? UM, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT VMU AND POD, BUT I DIDN'T CATCH IT.
DID YOU, UM, SAYING RIGHT NOW THAT, UM, MULTIFAMILY ZONES DO NOT ALLOW CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL WITHOUT THE, THE VMU OR THE DOESN.
OH, UNLESS IT HAS A, UM, COMMERCIAL ZONE.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW AN APARTMENT BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO RIGHT.
WELL NEITHER DOES SINGLE FAMILY, RIGHT? SO IT WAS, YEAH, SO THIS IS A, BUT IT WAS TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THE LARGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT GET BUILT THROUGHOUT THE CITY DON'T HAVE WITHIN THEIR OWN COMPLEXES THE, UNLESS THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO IT WAS KIND OF ADDRESSING ONE OF, UM, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S POINT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET THESE LARGE BUILDINGS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE SERVICES IN THEM.
THERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE THERE, BUT UNLESS IT'S VMU OR PUD, YOU DON'T GET A MIX OF USES OR A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY, UM, USE LIKE THE GROUND FLOOR.
UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, IS IT YEAH.
UM, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UM, I MEAN I SEE THESE BUILDINGS GO UP ALL THE TIME AND I'M ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, PRAYING THAT THEY HAVE BUSINESS AT THE BOTTOM, RETAIL AT THE BOTTOM.
ANY KIND OF SERVICE AT THE BOTTOM.
AND THEY KEEP COMING UP AND THEY'RE JUST ALL APARTMENTS AND I'M, THIS IS JUST A GIGANTIC WASTED OPPORTUNITY AND I JUST DON'T KNOW.
AND BLOCKS AND YOU JUST, DEAD ZONE.
SO YEAH, I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S, THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT.
SO WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE THINGS IN AT OCTOBER 1ST MEETING, OCTOBER 1ST.
WE SHOULD HAVE A VOTE ON, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO POSTPONE TO OCTOBER 1ST.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT.
UM, AND THAT ENDS OUR DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. WE HAVE
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WORKING GROUP COMMITTEE UPDATES, CODES AND ORDINANCES.JOINT COMMITTEE, WE DIDN'T MEET, DIDN'T MEET AND I DON'T KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHETHER THEY CANCEL THAT TOO.
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PLAN.DO WE HAVE A RECORD WE HAVEN'T MET? NO, NO.
SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING SINCE THE LAST UPDATE TWO WEEKS AGO.
UM, ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE? THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED AND IT IS WHATEVER.
WHAT TIME DOES IT SAY ON THERE? WHAT TIME? 8 31.