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[CALL TO ORDER]
UH, WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:06 PM AND FIRST, I WILL TAKE ROLE AS STATED IN THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.UM, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND OR STATE HERE.
COMMISSIONER HOWARD IS NOT PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WILL BE ARRIVING LATE THIS EVENING.
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS ALSO ARRIVING LATE THIS EVENING.
COMMISSIONER COX IS NOT PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS NOT PRESENT.
AND THEN I ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE OUR EX OFFICIO MEMBERS, UH, BOARD CHAIR COHEN.
AND WE HAVE A BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEMBER CANDACE HUNTER.
UM, AS USUAL, OUR MEETING WILL BE HYBRID, ALLOWING FOR A VIRTUAL QUORUM AND COMMISSIONERS ONLINE.
WE ARE JUST AT QUORUM, AS YOU CAN SEE.
SO
UM, SO, UH, THOSE ONLINE PLEASE HAVE YOUR YELLOW, GREEN, RED FOR VOTING.
AND REMEMBER TO SIGN, SEND YOUR SIGN IN SHEET TO, UH, MS. GARCIA.
IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION TAKING UP YOUR ITEM AND SPEAKERS CAN DONATE TIME.
BOTH THE SPEAKER DONATING TIME AND THE SPEAKER RECIPIENT MUST BE PRESENT IN PERSON WHEN THE ITEM IS CONSIDERED.
ALRIGHT, MS. GARCIA, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMUNICATION CHAIR? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.UM, WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 23RD AND AUGUST 13TH ARE ON THE, UM, UH, PRESENTED IN OUR BACKUP.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY EDITS TO THOSE MINUTES? HEARING NONE.
UM, THOSE MEETING THE MINUTES WILL BE ADDED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[Consent Agenda]
FIRST ACTIVITY TODAY IS TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEMS THAT ARE CONSENT APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL, POSTPONEMENTS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, OR NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS, VICE CHAIR ZARA WILL READ THE PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AND NON-DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.
YOU'LL ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST CONSENT ITEMS BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
SO, VICE CHAIR THANK YOU CHAIR.
I WILL BE GOING OVER OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS TODAY.
SO THIS IS I NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2023 DASH ONE, 8.0 6 67 25 SHIRLEY AVENUE, DISTRICT FOUR.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR A STAFF POSTPONEMENT DUE SEPTEMBER 24TH.
UM, I, NUMBER THREE IS THE ASSOCIATED REZONING C 14 DASH 2023 DASH 0 1 3 2 67 25 SHIRLEY AVENUE, DISTRICT FOUR.
THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO SEPTEMBER 24TH.
I NUMBER FOUR IS THE PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2023 DASH 0 0 4 0.0 3 43 0 2 KNUCKLES CROSSING DISTRICT TWO.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 22ND BY STAFF I NUMBER FIVE IS ALSO A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2023 DASH 9 2 0 2 HUMANE SOCIETY OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY DISTRICT FOUR.
THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 22ND.
I NUMBER SIX IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2 23 DASH 0 9 4 MERL DISTRICT FIVE.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT I NUMBER SEVEN IS A REZONING C EIGHT 14 DASH 2 23 DASH 0 5 7 200 EAST RIVERSIDE.
BUT THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION I NUMBER EIGHT IS A REZONING C EIGHT 14 DASH 82 DASH 6 0 2 83 LAKE AUSTIN COMMONS, BUT AMENDMENT DISTRICT NINE.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION I NUMBER NINE IS A HISTORIC ZONING C 14 H DASH 2024 DASH ZERO 100 SPL GREENHOUSE DISTRICT NINE.
I NUMBER 10 IS ALSO HISTORIC ZONING, C 14 H 2024 DASH NINE FOUR BROOKS HOUSE DISTRICT 10.
I NUMBER 11 IS ALSO HISTORIC ZONING, UH, C 14 H DASH 20 20 24 DASH NINE EIGHT RES HOUSE DISTRICT NINE.
I NUMBER 12 IS AN LDC AMENDMENT C 20 DASH 2023 DASH 0 2 6 LIVE MUSIC AND CREATIVE SPACE BONUS PHASE TWO.
THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO SEPTEMBER 24TH AND SHARE THAT IS ALL OF OUR LTC ITEMS WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE, WE CAN ADD, UM, ONE OF OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE ACTION RELATING TO THE INTERIM PLANNING COMMISSION RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT WERE SHARED IN, IN ADVANCE.
IF FOLKS ARE WILLING, WE CAN ADD THOSE TO THE CONSENT AS WELL.
VICE CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 15.
SO, UM, WE'LL START WITH MS. GARCIA.
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SIGNED UP FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA CHAIR? WE DO NOT.ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION OR OTHERWISE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.
UM, LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UM, AS STATED MADAM CHAIR DEPARTMENT, ARE WE MOVING 15 OR, UM, OR IS THAT JUST A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION? UH, IF I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OBJECTION FROM MOVING, UH, 15 TO A DISCUSSION TO CONSENT, UM, DID YOU WANT TO STILL DISCUSS THAT ONE? NO, IF I, I JUST HEARD THE SUGGESTION I DIDN'T.
IF, IF THAT'S A OKAY, IF THAT'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I, SO YES, IF I, IF I CAN MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT ONE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION TO FOLKS.
SO, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE SHARED THOSE, UM, LAST TIME AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH, MUCH ARE, THERE'S FIDELITY TO THAT.
AND THEN THE REVISED ONES WERE SENT TO Y'ALL EARLIER AS WELL.
THANK YOU STAFF FOR SHARING THOSE OUT.
UM, WE RECEIVED AMENDMENTS FROM SOME COMMISSIONERS AND THOSE WERE INCLUDED WITH CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
SO WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ON THAT.
SO, AGAIN, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, AND I GUESS WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT TO THE CONSENT AS WELL.
UM, BUT MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD SAY ONE THING, UM, A COUPLE OF TIMES AND, AND I'LL VOTE FOR THE, UH, RULES, UH, APPRECIATE, UH, YOU AND, AND VICE CHAIR AZAR, UH, HEADING THAT UP AND GETTING THOSE DONE.
BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UH, SAY THAT THERE'S A COUPLE INSTANCES THAT IN THE, IN THE DRAFT RULE ARE, ARE NOW THE, THE GONNA BE THE FINAL RULES, UM, WHERE IT'S, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA SAY IT'S GONNA TAKE A TWO THIRDS VOTES TO AMEND THAT OFFER AN AMENDMENTS TO CHANGE THE ORDER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, I, I WISH THEY WERE A MAJORITY VOTE, UH, ESPECIALLY AS A GUY WHO'S BEEN OUTVOTED ONE TIME BEFORE ON THE DICE.
I UNDERSTAND TO GO TO TWO THIRDS, BUT MAJORITY VOTE SEEMS LITTLE DE DEMOCRATIC TO ME, BUT I'M, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE AGAINST TWO THIRDS EITHER.
SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.
AND TO CLARIFY, THESE ARE THE INTERIM RULES, RIGHT? REMEMBER, WE'LL HAVE THE WORKING GROUP THAT CAN SOLIDIFY THOSE AND ADDRESS COMMENTS LIKE THAT.
YES, I CHAIR AND, AND CHAIR, IF I MIGHT MENTION YES.
UM, JUST A REMINDER TO FOLKS, THESE ARE INTERIM OR SORT OF PLACEHOLDER RULES THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
THEY'VE REPLACED ALL OF OUR EXISTING SORT OF RULES DOCUMENTS, SO WE'LL CLEAR IT UP, GET RID OF ANY SORT OF CONFUSION.
OUR STAFF WILL WORK ON THAT IN DUE TIME, UM, TO ADDRESS THAT.
BUT, UH, ESSENTIALLY YOU WOULD, UH, REMOVE THESE, BUT THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT ITEM NUMBER 13 WAS THE CREATION OF THAT WORKING GROUP ON GOVERNANCE.
THE WORKING GROUP WILL SORT OF PICK UP THE WORK THERE AND AT, AT THE TIME THAT IT FEELS LIKE IT CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE BODY, WHATEVER THAT GROUP, UM, SUGGESTS, WILL ESSENTIALLY REPLACE THESE RULES.
SO GOING BACK TO, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR OUR YES, COMMISSIONER.
SORRY, I WAS, UH, LATE ONTO THE MEETING.
DID THEY GET CLARIFICATION ON THE, UH, MEETING MINUTES? YES.
OUR STAFF WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE VIDEO AND, UM, IF YOU HAVE A, A QUESTION ON THE DETERMINATION, WE CAN POSTPONE IT AND TABLE THOSE MINUTES UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE STANDING AS, UM, THE ABSTENTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, AND NOT JUST THE MINUTES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT IF, IF WE, YOU WANT TO REVIEW THAT OR TALK WITH STAFF, WE CAN POSTPONE THOSE MINUTES ON CONSENT AS WELL.
SO, UM, TO CLARIFY FOR THE COMMISSION, THE JULY 23RD MINUTES WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, BUT WE ARE STILL MOVING THE AUGUST 13TH MINUTES.
SO WITH THIS, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOTION BY VICE CHAIR, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE.
UM, UNLESS THERE IS OBJECTION, THAT MOTION PASSES.
LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, SO THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEM NUMBER.
COULD YOU RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER AL? I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER AL HAS JOINED.
WE'RE REFLECTING YOUR ATTENDANCE ON THE, THE MEETING TONIGHT.
[7. Rezoning: C814-2023-0057 - 200 E. Riverside PUD; District 9]
ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.THIS IS THE 200 EAST RIVERSIDE HUD, AND WE'LL HEAR FROM MS. ES.
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MENTOR INQUIRY.UM, I'D ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT OF THIS ITEM.
I THOUGHT TYPICALLY WE TOOK UP THE, THE TALK OR WHATEVER, THE POSTPONEMENT FIRST BEFORE WE WENT INTO THE HEARING.
UM, COMMISSIONER HAYES, I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD HEAR, UH, THE, THE A, THE, THE CITY, THE APPLICANT, AND THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION WHICH COULD INCLUDE POSTPONEMENT.
SHERRY CERTI WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS AN INCASE C 8 1 4 20 23 0 0 5 7 200 EAST RIVERSIDE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 200 EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
THE REQUEST IS FROM LIMITED INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, PUD MP, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A REZONING APPLICATION FOR A PROPOSED OFFICE IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON 3.955 ACRES KNOWN AS 200 EAST RIVERSIDE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A 92,892 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY OFFICE, VACANT OFFICE BUILDING WITH SURFACE PARKING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1970.
THIS TRACT LAND HAS A DRIVEWAY TO EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND LEASE LITTLE EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WHICH IS A 60 FOOT WIDE PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT.
ADJACENT TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, THERE ARE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE NORTH AND WEST ZONE, CSV, MP, CS VCO O MP, AND CSCO MP.
THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH AND EAST ARE DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES THAT ARE DEVELOP, THAT ARE ZONED LNP AND PD MP RESPECTIVELY.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED WITH LMP LAKE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DISTRICT ZONING.
BASED ON THE INFORMATION SUBMITTED WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A REZONING TO PUD NP ZONING TO DEVELOP A MULTI-USE PROJECT THAT WOULD INCLUDE TWO HIGH RISE BUILDINGS WITH APPROXIMATELY 1003 OR 1,003,700 377,787 SQUARE FEET.
BOY, THAT WAS INTERESTING OF OFFICE USES AND 29,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FOUR COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 500 FEET AND A MAXIMUM FA OF R OF 14 TO ONE.
THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BUILT IN ONE PHASE AND IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED IN 2026.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE LADY BIRD LAKE AND EAST BOLD CREEK WATERSHEDS, WHICH ARE CLASSIFIED AS URBAN WATERSHEDS.
THE BANKS OF LADY BIRD LAKE ARE APPROXIMATELY 160 FEET TO THE NORTHEAST OF THIS TRACT LAND.
THIS SITE IS WITHIN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT SUBDISTRICT OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY AND IS WITHIN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION FRAMEWORK PLAN DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.
AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE LONG RANGE PLANNING DIVISION IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT REGULATING PLAN AND ACCOMPANYING SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION FRAMEWORK PLAN PER CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
ACCORDING TO THE STAFF REGULATING PLAN IS NOW KNOWN AS THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT COMBINING DISTRICT AND DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM HAS EVOLVED SIGNIFICANTLY AND IS BASED ON THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY CITY BONUS PROGRAM.
THESE CHANGES ARE SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION ON SEPTEMBER 12TH.
THE PUD, THE PUD APPLICATION IS REQUESTING SIX CODE MODIFICATIONS, WHICH ARE LISTED IN EXHIBIT E IN YOUR BACKUP.
THE PROPOSED BENEFITS OF THE PUD ARE AS FOLLOWS, THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT IN THEIR SUBMITTAL MATERIALS THAT THE PROJECT WILL MEET ALL OF THE APPLICABLE TIER ONE PUD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND OFFER ELEMENTS OF SUPERIORITY IN 10 TIER TWO CATEGORIES, WHICH ARE OPEN SPACE PARKLAND, ENVIRONMENTAL DRAINAGE, AUSTIN ENG, ENERGY, GREEN BUILDING ART, COMMUNITY AMENITIES, TRANSPORTATION, BUILDING DESIGN, PARKING STRUCTURE, FRONTAGE ACCESSIBILITY, AND SMALL LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS.
THOSE ARE ALSO IN EXHIBIT D IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL.
THEREFORE, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE 200 EAST RIVERSIDE UNIT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CONDITIONS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF THAT YOU'RE ALSO REFLECTED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD MOTION THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED ONLINE, THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR BACKUP.
THE REASON FOR THE PUD RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF A PUD.
THE PROPOSED ZONING WILL ENABLE THE APPLICANT TO UTILIZE THIS VACANT PROPERTY TO CONSTRUCT A HIGHER DENSITY OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR, EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WILL REMOVE THE EXISTING BUILDING AND SURFACE PARKING AREAS TO CONSTRUCT TWO NEW TOWERS, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE OVERALL IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE PROPERTY BY 9.8%.
THE PUD WILL ENCOURAGE A PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT BY EXPANDING OPEN SPACE WITH CONNECTIONS TO THE WATERFRONT AT THIS LOCATION ALONG A PROJECT CONNECT BLUE LINE NEAR A PROPOSED FUTURE CAPITAL METRO BARREL STATION.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN THIS AREA WITH THE ANNE AND ROY BUTLER HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY OF THIS TRACK
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CONNECTING TO THE BOARDWALK, THE BOARDWALK TO CONGRESS AVENUE ON LADY BIRD LAKE AND CAPITAL MESSER METRO BUS ROUTES ALONG EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE.AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
AND I DO ALSO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL AND TRANSPORTATION STAFF WITH US TONIGHT.
WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND I'M GUESSING THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON TONIGHT THAT YOU DON'T WANNA STAND HERE AND LISTEN TO ME OR SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO ME.
SO I'M GONNA MAKE IT VERY BRIEF ON THE A ON THE, UH, PRESENTATION PART.
WE ADOPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD RECOMMENDATION IN FAVOR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD, HAS ASKED FOR A FIRE STATION ON THIS SITE.
WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE SITE AT RIVERSIDE, LITTLE RIVERSIDE.
PLUS THE TRAIN IS GONNA COME RIGHT THROUGH HERE AND I'LL SHOW YOU.
I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK.
UM, WE'RE ASKING BASICALLY FOR A, UH, FLEXIBLE PLANNING AND, AND A BUCKET OF DENSITY AND A BUCKET OF OF TRIPS SO THAT WE CAN PLAN THIS.
IT'S TOUGH TO PLAN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE TRAIN'S COMING THROUGH.
WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THE TRAIN FITS.
THE TRAIN STATION WANTS TO BE BASICALLY AT OR NEAR THIS SITE.
UM, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THREE OTHER PUDS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY PASSED IN THE SAME SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT DISTRICT.
THE MOST RECENT BEING THE FIRESTONE P THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND ALL ARE COMMENSURATE TO THE, TO THE OTHER THREE THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY PASSED.
UM, WHY NOT WAIT FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN? THIS IS AN IMPORTANT POINT THAT WILL BECOME VERY CLEAR IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.
THE MAJORITY OF THE LANDOWNERS IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN WILL BE DELIVERING A LETTER TO THE CITY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS THAT SAYS NONE OF THEM ARE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN THE PLAN AS WRITTEN.
AND YOU ASK, HOW CAN THAT BE AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF PLANNING? AND THE KEY COMPONENT IS FINANCIALLY THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS HAVE TOLD US ALL, AND IT'S A WIDE VARIETY OF VERY SOPHISTICATED LANDOWNERS AND DEVELOPERS THAT THEIR MARGIN, THAT THESE UNDER THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN, THEIR PROJECTS CAN BE MARGINALLY FEASIBLE.
AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE'RE JUST BEING GREEDY AND THEY NEED TO ADOPT THE CONSULTANTS PLANS.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, THERE'S, IN MY OFFICE ALONE, THERE'S FOUR MORE PUDS BEING CREATED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN AS IT IS TODAY.
UH, THAT'LL BE DELIVERED IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.
UM, LET ME RUN THROUGH THIS RIGHT QUICK.
THIS IS, YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS? IT'S, IT'S, UH, OFF THE RIVER.
THIS JUST SHOWS THE, THE CURRENT ZONING.
IT'S L IT'S GOT 200 FEET OF HEIGHT TODAY, BUT IT'S CAPPED WITH THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY AT AT 96 FEET, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE, THE DENSITY UNDER THE PUT AND, AND GOING UP TO 500 FEET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS SLIDE IS.
AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE PUT IS SET UP TO WHERE YOU, YOU PICK WHAT YOU WANNA MODIFY.
AND WE'VE GOT SIX PREVIOUS ONES HAVE HAVE HAD MORE THAN THAT.
THESE ARE ALL THE SUPERIORITY ELEMENTS THAT, UH, GARNERED THE STAFF REPORT, OUR STAFF SUPPORT, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION SUPPORT.
SO NOW THESE, THESE THREE SLIDES ARE CONCEPT ONLY, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE PLANNING PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
WHAT THIS SHOWS IS HOW THE TWO TRAIN LINES WANT TO CONVERGE AT OUR SITE.
AND THIS IS A TWO BUILDING SCHEME, BUILDING ONE AND BUILDING TWO.
AND IT, IT SHOWS HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE TRAIN COMING FROM THE EAST AND HEADING NORTH, AND ALSO THE ONE COMING FROM THE SOUTH HEADING NORTH ON CONGRESS.
THIS IS A THREE BUILDING, UH, SCHEME UNDER THIS ONE IS KIND OF THE, THE FAVORITE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE COULD START BUILDINGS TWO AND THREE AND NOT MESS WITH THE TRAIN GUYS PLANNING ON HOW THAT TRAIN STATION OR HOW THAT, UH, TRAIN LINE MAY COME THROUGH.
BUT THIS IS JUST, UH, YET ANOTHER ONE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A A FOUR BUILDING SCHEME.
WE HAVE NOT LANDED ON ANY ONE OF THEM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS SITE WILL ACCOMMODATE A MULTI-BUILDING, MULTI-USE PROJECT, UM, AND STILL ACCOMMODATE THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL SIT DOWN AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
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WE'D PER, WE'D PREFER NOT TO BE POSTPONED BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T THINK THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN IS GONNA GET ADOPTED ANYTIME SOON.AND IF IT IS, WE'RE GONNA PRESS THE PUT ANYWAY, MUCH LIKE THE THREE BEFORE YOU DID, BECAUSE IT JUST FLAT DOESN'T WORK.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
OKAY, MR. SETTLE, DID YOU WANNA USE YOUR, UH, REBUTTAL TIME FOR, FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP? OH, SURE.
I GOT ANOTHER 15 MINUTES TO GO.
ALRIGHT, I'LL, UH, LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A, A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER WOODS SECOND VICE CHAIR.
UNLESS THERE'S OBJECTION, THAT MOTION PASSES AND I'M NOTING COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS HAS, UH, JOINED US.
OKAY, WELL I'LL OPEN IT UP TO, UH, QUESTIONS.
WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTION, MR. OH, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.
IS THAT IN ORDER RIGHT NOW OR SHOULD WE DO THE QUESTIONS? UM, LET'S DO QUESTIONS.
I THINK COMMISSIONER WINS HAVE ONE.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SUBTLE WITHOUT KIND OF, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SEE SOME FLAWS IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN, BUT WITHOUT GETTING INTO THOSE, CAN YOU JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THIS PUD PROPOSAL ALIGNS WITH OR DIFFERS FROM THAT PLAN AS WRITTEN CURRENTLY? SURE.
SO, AND YOU JUST STOP ME WHEN IT GETS TOO, TOO BORING, BUT I'LL, I'LL START WITH THE BASICS.
UNDER THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN, THIS SITE HAS NO HEIGHT LIMITATION.
UH, UNDER OUR PROVISION, WE'RE CAPPING IT AT 500 FEET UNDER THE SOUTH CENTRAL, THE PROPOSED FLORIDA AREA RATIO OF 16 TO ONE, WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, 14 TO ONE.
UM, WE BASICALLY ADOPT AND ENHANCE ALL OF THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN THE TWO.
THIS ONE, WE DID A LOT MORE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF AND A LOT MORE LANDSCAPE STUFF THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN.
AND I CAN GO THROUGH ALL THOSE IN NAUSEATING DETAIL, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT ENHANCED TREE PRESERVATION, TREE SOILS, RAIN GARDENS, UH, POLLINATOR SPOTS, A LOT OF THE SAME THING THAT YOU SAW IN PREVIOUS PUDS AS WELL.
AND ARE THERE SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF THIS PLAN THAT WOULD NECESSITATE THE PUD REQUEST EVEN IF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN WENT FORWARD? YES, BECAUSE UNDER THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN, THEY HAVE THIS VERY TORTURED DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM THAT, AS YOU RECALL, THIS BODY, I BASICALLY THREW UP YOUR HANDS AND WENT, THIS IS NUTS.
AND YOU, I THINK YOU RECOMMENDED JUST GO TO ONE TRIED AND TRUE.
THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS STAFF DIDN'T LIKE THAT ONE EITHER, SO THEY CAME UP WITH ANOTHER ONE.
AND WE, WE SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THEIR CURRENT ONE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS UNWORKABLE.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, AND LET'S JUST PICK THE ONE THAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL ONE.
THE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT UNDER THE CURRENT PUD ORDINANCE WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO 10% AT 60% ONSITE.
WE HAVE PRESERVED THAT OPTION AS WELL AS WE'VE SOFTENED IT OR HARDENED IT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT TO SAY, OR AN EQUIVALENT OR BETTER THAT MIGHT INCLUDE OFFSITE OR MIGHT INCLUDE FEE IN LIEBE.
SO IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S RESIDENTIAL ON THE SITE, WE ORIGINALLY FILED THIS THING AS AN OFFICE.
IT'S BEEN AROUND SO LONG AND, AND OFFICE IS NOT A VERY GOOD USE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE KEPT THE OPTION TO DO A MULTI-USE PROJECT, BUT IF IT BECOMES RESIDENTIAL, IT WILL EITHER MEET OUR CURRENT HUD REQUIREMENT OR IF THE CITY SAYS WE'D RATHER HAVE IT, UH, HYBRID OR FEE AND LIE, OR THIS PARTICULAR CLIENT THAT I HAVE IS IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUSINESS AND THEY HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT THAT'S NOT VERY MANY MILES FROM THIS TO THE EAST.
WHAT, TWO OR THREE MILES? THREE MILES.
THREE MILES, THAT IS GOING TO ACTUALLY ROLL OVER AND BECOME NOT AFFORDABLE IN 2032.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT ABOUT IS WHAT IF WE TOOK EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EXTENDED THAT OUT RATHER THAN THEN THEN TRY TO BUILD IT ONSITE IN A HIGH RISE? THE POINT HERE IS, IS THAT THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY UNDER OUR PROPOSAL FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FASTER THAN UNDER THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN.
AND SO MY LAST QUESTION IS, WOULD I GUESS WOULD DELAYING THIS CASE UNTIL THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN COULD BE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL
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IMPACT THE PROJECT'S ABILITY TO DELIVER ON SOME OF THOSE PROPOSED SUPERIORITY ELEMENTS IN THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BENEFIT THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED? SO THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE MILL FOR A LONG TIME AND IT'S UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S ON A LAND LEASE.AND SO FOR EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY THAT WE CAN'T PLAN AND BUILD IT, IT STARTS MESSING WITH THE FINANCIALS OF THE PROJECT.
SO IF YOU DELAY THIS ON A HYPOTHETICAL, WHAT IF THE PLAN COMES AROUND, UM, YOU'RE DELAYING PLANNING AND YOU'RE DELAYING OUR ABILITY TO GET SOMETHING ON THE GROUND.
NOW WHAT HAPPENS IF WE'RE MOVING ONTO THE PUD? LET'S JUST SAY YOU APPROVE THE PUD AND THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE PUD AND WE GET PARTIALLY THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THEN SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN COMES AROUND AND WORKS, THEN I THINK WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO SHIFT GEARS, BUT WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE THE PLANNING PROCESS GOING.
RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T PLAN ANYTHING INCLUDING THE TRAIN STATION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PLAN TO.
SHOULD I STAND UP HERE? I'LL JUMP IN WITH THE NEXT QUESTION IF I CAN.
UM, AND I, I'LL START WITH YOU MR. SETTLE.
THE, UM, YOU TOUCHED ON THIS BRIEFLY WITH COMMISSIONER WOODS'S QUESTION, BUT UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S PLANNED FOR GROUND FLOOR RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL AND THEN OFFICE.
UM, AND IT'S TO BE OPEN IN 2026.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS COME TOGETHER AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE SO MANY VACANT SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE RIGHT NOW, WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE RESERVING THE RIGHT FOR POTENTIALLY HOUSING.
UM, BUT IT'S STILL TO BE OPEN IN 2026.
SO I'M GUESSING I'M GONNA GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE AND SAY IT AIN'T GONNA BE OFF.
IT'S THE FIRST THING OUTTA THE BOX.
THAT'S WHY WE START BREAKING THESE BUILDINGS APART.
'CAUSE THOSE EASTERN SIDE BUILDINGS, WE COULD ACTUALLY DO HOUSING OR HOTEL OR SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL USE.
ON THE GROUND FLOOR PIECE THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE THE, THE KEY TO THIS PROJECT, AND IT'S GONNA BE THE CORNERSTONE FOR THE ENTIRE SOUTH CENTRAL AND, AND ALL THE DEVELOPERS ARE IN ON BOARD WITH THIS, WE WANT A VERY POROUS AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED WALKING ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR.
NOT JUST ON THIS SITE BUT ON THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET WITH TURN BRIDGE, THE SIDE OF CAT CORNER WITH RELATED.
AND SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH IS STILL OKAY, RETAIL AND, AND ACTIVE STUFF.
THE SECOND BUILDING OR THIRD BUILDING, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE EITHER HOTEL OR RESIDENTIAL.
THE OFFICE WE'RE JUST HOLDING BACK BECAUSE IT MAY, IT MAY BECOME, ONCE THE TRAIN GETS THERE, OFFICE MAY COME BACK FOR THIS LOCATION.
SO THE THE ENTIRE SITE WOULDN'T BE OPEN IN 2026.
YOU'LL OPEN A BUILDING AND THEN AS THE MARKET CHANGES, YOU'LL ADJUST TO THAT.
THAT, THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE MANAGING THE TRAIN.
YOU KNOW, THE TRAIN IS, IS IFFY, BUT WE'RE HOLDING THAT PLACE HOLDER AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE OFF THE TRAIN AND START.
UM, NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THE FIRE STATION.
AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF WAS HOPING TO GET IN THIS SITE, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SPOTS FOR, AS THE POPULATION GROWS, NEW STATIONS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY THAT WOULDN'T WORK ON THIS SITE? AND THEN MAYBE STAFF, UM, ALSO EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT REQUEST CAN'T BE ACCOMMODATED FOR THIS SITE.
WHERE DOES, WHERE DOES THAT GO? SO CAN WE PULL UP A, CAN WE PULL UP THE UH, WELL LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST KEEP THAT ONE UP.
SO FIRE STATIONS BY THEIR VERY NATURE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.
THEY'LL NEED TO GO EAST, THEY'LL NEED TO GO WEST, NORTH, SOUTH.
YOU CAN TELL IF BEST CASE SCENARIO IS THIS TRAIN IS ELEVATED, BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC HAMPERED TRYING TO GET OUT TO RIVERSIDE OR WHAT'S SHOWN IS LITTLE RIVERSIDE THERE.
IT'S NOT EVEN A PUBLIC STREET AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN, AND THEN IT'S GOTTA COME THE TRAIN, THE FIREMEN WOULD HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE TRAINS AND GO EITHER DIRECTION.
SO IT'S, AND IT'S A SMALL SITE.
I'LL LET THE STAFF TALK ABOUT WHERE IT MIGHT GO EL ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER SITES THAT ARE NOT HEMMED IN BY THE TRAIN STATION.
MR. RA FOR SIRES, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? I'VE GOT ONE MINUTE
ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER, I ASKED FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FOR A FD TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE SOMEONE WITH THIS TO ADDRESS THEIR COMMENTS.
UM, I DID SPEAK TO THEM EARLY ON,
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UM, IN THE PUD PROCESS FOR ALL OF THESE P'S THAT ARE COMING IN, IN THIS AREA OFF OF CONGRESS AND RIVERSIDE.AND THEY HAVE A, A CONCERN ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND THE HIGH RISES THAT ARE COMING IN THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE TRUCKS AND THE CAPABILITY TO HANDLE THOSE IF IN CASE THERE IS AN EMERGENCY.
AND SO THESE WERE THEIR COMMENTS THAT THEY ASKED TO INCLUDE IN THE STAFF BACKUP AS PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND SO, UM, THAT IS BASICALLY THE REASONING IS THEY'RE JUST WORRIED ABOUT HAVING THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THESE NEW LARGER STRUCTURES.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A BROADER, UH, BIGGER PICTURE QUESTION AROUND, UM, WHERE WE CAN LOCATE SOME OF THESE FACILITIES AS OUR DENSITY THAT WE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOES.
YOU WILL SEE SIMILAR COMMENTS AND OTHER PITIES THAT WILL PROBABLY BE COMING BEFORE YOU THAT ARE IN THIS AREA.
MS. VAR, I TRIED TO, TRIED TO SAVE YOU, TRIED TO CATCH YOU.
THANKS FOR YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION AND, UM, YOU WENT REAL QUICK AND I APPRECIATE YOU GOING REAL QUICKLY THROUGH ALL THE, UM, EXCEPTIONAL ITEMS AND UH, SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT, BUT I WILL ADMIT TO, I WAS, I WAS CHECKING MY PHONE AND I APOLOGIZE.
SO I MISSED, UM, THE EXCEPTIONAL ITEM ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WILL YOU RUN DOWN THAT FOR ME? SO BASICALLY BECAUSE THE PUD IS REQUESTING TO SEE EXCEED THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ESTABLISHED IN THE L BASE DISTRICT, UM, THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE BASELINE FOR DETERMINING, UH, DEVELOPMENT BONUSES PORTION OF THE PUD ORDINANCE IN THE CODE.
AND SO BASICALLY THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, WHICH IS DIVISION FIVE OF THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS REQUIREMENTS FOR EXCEEDING THE BASELINE.
AND IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY, THEN THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY.
THESE ARE THE TIER THREE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THE PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, UH, WITH THE IN, IN LIE DONATION REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE.
SO, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE EXCEEDING HEIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE EXCEEDING THEIR FAR BECAUSE THEY'RE EXCEEDING THEIR MAX UH, BUILDING AREA, THAT'S WHY THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THESE, THE TIER THREE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE CODE.
OKAY, SO PUT IT, PUT IT IN PLAIN LANGUAGE FOR ME.
AND SO IT IS 10, IT'S 60 MM-HMM.
IS IT A, IS IT A FACTOR THEN? SO IF THEY DO A HUNDRED THOUSAND A MILLION IT GOES UP? OR IS IT, IS IT, IS THAT A NEGOTIATION? I MEAN, LEMME ASK IT THAT WAY.
UM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT RE REVIEWED.
BECAUSE INITIALLY AS PART OF THIS PUD, THE APPLICANT DIDN'T, UH, RECOGNIZE HOUSING AS PART OF THEIR TIER TWO REQUIREMENTS AS ONE OF THEIR BENEFITS FOR THEIR PUD.
SO THEY DIDN'T SEND A PROPOSAL TO HOUSING FOR THEM TO REVIEW.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT BY HOUSING.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEND A BASELINE PROPOSAL AND THEN HOUSING WOULD HAVE TO GO FROM THERE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? VICE CHAIR AND THEN COMMISSIONER AL.
THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION, UM, MR. SETTLE FOR YOU AS WELL.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, SO LOOKING AT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, YOU'RE FINE WITH THE FULL STAFF RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? THE BULLET NUMBER THREE OR NO, THE BULLET NUMBER THREE IS THE ONE THAT WE CAN'T DO.
THERE'S NO PLACE FOR A FIRE STATION ON IT.
IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY SMALL SITE NOW.
I, I KINDA GET IN TROUBLE 'CAUSE I GOT SO MANY LANDOWNERS OUT HERE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER BIGGER SITES WITH BETTER ACCESS AND THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS ONE TEXAS CENTER, WHICH IS A GREAT SPOT FOR A FIRE STATION BECAUSE YOU GOT SOUTH FIRST, YOU GOT CONGRESS, YOU GOT RIVERSIDE.
AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WE, WE ALL AGREE THERE NEEDS TO BE A FIRE STATION, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT IT AT, AT THE BEND OF A TRAIN STATION.
AND THEN, UM, IN TERMS OF THE OTHER STAFF RECOMMENDATION, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN LISTED.
IT'S REALLY THE BULLET NUMBER THREE.
WHERE THERE IS SOME CONCERN AND YES.
AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S NOT REALLY TO TBD, THE CODE REQUIRES 10% AT 60% MFI OVER THE BASELINE.
AND WE'RE SAYING THAT AT A MINIMUM OR FEE AND LIE OR A HYBRID OR A UNIQUE SITUATION BECAUSE MY CLIENT'S IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUSINESS.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR YOU OR STAFF EITHER WAY, I'M HOPING YOU CAN HELP ME ANSWER.
IF NOT MR. BEES, YOU CAN HELP ME.
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SO FOR THE PARKING STRUCTURE PIECE, IT SAYS 75% OF THE GROUND FLOOR SPACE OF A PARKING GARAGE.IF A COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE BUILDING FRONTING RIVERSIDE OR THE FUTURE METRO RAIL MAY PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES AS DEFINED IN THE SECTION OF THE CODE.
IS THAT MEANT TO BE MADE OR IS IT A SHALL? I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE THE WAY I SEE IT RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS AN OPTION THAT THE OWNER MAY DECIDE TO DO.
I KNOW MS. RES, IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA OR IF WE TRIED MAY, IT'LL BE SHELL IT IT WILL BE.
SO THE IDEA REALLY IS THAT IT WAS MEANT TO BE SHELL, IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED.
AND WOULD Y'ALL HAVE ANY CONCERNS WHICH WE TRIED? I'M SORRY, WHAT WE TRIED IT'LL BE SHELL OKAY.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING THAT I HAD WAS, UM, THIS, DO WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF PRESENT? MM-HMM.
UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE SOIL PIECE THAT WE HAVE.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANT, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AS WELL.
HAVE THOSE ALL BEEN INCORPORATED IN HERE? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MISSING AT THIS POINT? I KNOW IF YOU WANNA COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING.
UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
LESLIE LILY WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION.
ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT, UM, WE PRESENTED AT ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION LAST WEEK WERE AGREED TO BY THE APPLICANT AND THEY WERE APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
SO ALL OF OUR COMMENTS, UH, ALONG WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW STAFF AT DSD AND OUR CITY ARBORISTS STAFF AT DSD, ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS HAVE, UH, BEEN RESOLVED.
AND JUST TO CONFIRM, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE AS LIFTED IN THE LISTED IN THE BACKUP INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS? THAT IS CORRECT.
WE DO NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO INCLUDE THE BACKUP FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
THOSE ARE ALL MR. VEDAS, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I'M OKAY.
I I WOULD SAY I WOULD INCLUDE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MOTION AS YOUR PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION, UH, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME MINOR ELEMENTS THAT CHANGED IN THE STAFF'S BACKUP REPORT BETWEEN THAT AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND IT WAS CLARIFIED AT ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
SO THAT IS LAID OUT IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOTION.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO GO.
AND THEN I GUESS, UH, MY LAST MINUTE I'LL ASK, UH, MR. SUTTLE, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT? I'M SEEING SOME NODS HERE.
ALL, ALL OF THEM IS THE SHORT ANSWER.
REMEMBER THIS PUT HAD NO ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATIONS REQUESTED, BUT WE OVERDID IT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE AND PLUS WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL BOARD DID, WE'RE GOOD WITH ALL OF IT.
I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL MEETING THE SUPERIOR ELEMENTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COURT.
THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONER M AND THEN COMMISSIONER SKIER.
AND WE DO HAVE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL OR WATERSHED AVAILABLE? YES, WE DO.
YEAH, I'D, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF MODELING HAVE WE DONE FOR THE CHANGE IN DENSITY FOR THE PROPERTY AND FOR THE REVISED SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN THAT'S COMING FORWARD? UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE INTERIM ENVIRONMENTAL COM, UH, OFFICER.
UM, SO AT THIS STAGE IT'S A ZONING, UM, UH, PROPOSAL.
THE DRAINAGE AND WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS AND ANY KIND OF FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENTS WILL HAPPEN AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN.
AND SO THE ANSWER IS THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY, UH, CURRENTLY BECAUSE THERE, IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
BUT, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, UH, CONCERNS THAT WILL BE WORKED OUT AT SITE PLAN WITH ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PODS COMING.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE MORE.
WE'VE GOT THE SOUTH CENTRAL REVISION GOING THROUGH COUNCIL.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THE, I I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE EXPONENTIAL FACTOR IS ON THE DENSITY THAT'S COMING IN THIS AREA.
WELL, I WILL SAY ON, ON THIS ONE AND, AND MANY OF THE PUDS GOING FORWARD ARE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AND SO THERE IS ALREADY A HIGH AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER ON A LOT OF THESE SITES.
AND, UM, MANY OF THEM INCLUDING THIS ONE, ARE, ARE REDUCING IMPERVIOUS COVER.
BUT IMPERVIOUS COVER DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DENSITY OF USAGE AND THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES FROM THAT.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE FACTORS? UM, WELL TRAFFIC WOULD NOT BE WATERSHED PROTECTION, BUT, BUT REALLY DENSITY IT, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER IS REALLY WHAT DRIVES DRAINAGE AND UH, UH, INCREASED FLOWS THAT NEED TO BE HANDLED IN SOME WAY.
SO WHETHER IT'S A, A HIGH RISE OR A LOW RISE, IT'S ALL THE SAME AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
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SO THE MODELS DON'T REALLY TAKE IN TO AFFECT, UH, ACCOUNT HEIGHT OR INTENSITY ABUSE.ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OF, I GUESS I'LL START, MR, CAN I ADD ONE MORE POINT TO THAT? OF COURSE.
THIS IS A SITE COMMISSIONER THAT CURRENTLY WE'RE DECREASING THE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND IT'S A SITE THAT HAS ZERO WATER QUALITY ON IT AND WE UPPED THAT TO PUT GREEN WATER QUALITY ON IT ON A SITE THAT HAS NOTHING NOW.
SO IT, IT KIND OF OFFSETS IT AND, AND THE SITE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE REHABBED.
I JUST CONCERN AND IT'S, THIS IS GOES OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR PUD CASE, BUT WITH EVERYTHING WE'RE SEEING ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL CHANGES AND THE INTENSIVE USE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN WELL STUDIED.
THERE'S NOTHING IN LCRA WITH THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT ON THAT.
AND IT CONCERNS ME VERY GREATLY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE LARGE SCALE VERSUS JUST THE PARTICULAR ZONING CASE.
BUT YEAH, I KNOW THAT PROPERTY NEEDS NEEDS, IT, IT, IT CAN STAND TO, TO SERVE US BETTER.
ACTUALLY, MY QUESTIONS WERE AROUND IMPERVIOUS COVER AND WATER QUALITY AND YOU JUST ANSWERED THEM, SO THANK YOU.
BUT OF MOVING ON TO TRANSPORTATION OF, COULD YOU MAYBE PULL UP THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE POTENTIAL ALIGNMENT FOR THE LIGHT RAIL? SURE.
AND JUST UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND ALSO, UH, GET A SENSE OF, I THINK THE DOCUMENT TALKS ABOUT RIDE OF WAY DEDICATION AS REQUIRED.
WOULD THAT INCLUDE THE RIDE OF WAY FOR THE, UM, THE LIGHT RAIL? SO THE ANSWER IS YES, PROBABLY WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GONNA LOOK LIKE BECAUSE THIS, THIS I BELIEVE SHOWS THE ABOVE GRADE ALIGNMENT.
IT'S ABOVE GRADE BY OUR, OUR RIGHT.
THIS IS OUR STAB AT ABOVE GRADE.
KEEP IN MIND THEY'VE NOT SHOWN US THE ALIGNMENT, BUT THE ANSWER IS YES, WE'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION FOR, FOR THE TRAIN AND LITTLE RIVERSIDE, WHILE IT'S NOT ON OUR PROPERTY.
IT COULD BE THAT WE NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT SIDE TOO, BUT IT, IT'S GONNA BE ONCE THEY COME TO A DESIGN, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY LOOKS LIKE.
BUT THEN THAT RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE DEDICATED.
IT WILL, AS LONG AS IT'S ROUGHLY PROPORTIONAL.
NOW WHAT IF THEY SAID THEY HAD TO COME THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF OUR SITE? I CAN'T COMMIT TO YOU THAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE RIGHT OF WAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE.
IT'LL, IT'LL, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA WORK IT OUT.
WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE REASONABLE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND DO YOU SEE HOW THIS LINES UP WHERE IT'S COMING FROM? OKAY.
AND THEN THAT RIGHT OF WAY, THAT APPROXIMATE AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, THERE IS ABOUT 8,800 SQUARE FEET.
IS THAT WHAT IT'S LABELED? BELIEVE? YES.
NOW WHAT'S TRICKY ABOUT THAT, THAT IS ORIGINALLY WHERE WE WERE GONNA PUT OUR RAIN GARDEN.
SO WE MAY NEED TO FIND ANOTHER SPOT FOR THE POLLINATORS IN THE RAIN GARDEN OR WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE TRAIN COMPANY TO FIGURE OUT, MAYBE YOU CAN DO IT UNDER THE TRAIN IF IT'S, IF IT'S IN THE AIR.
ANOTHER BENEFIT FOR ELEVATED RAIL.
WE HAVE TWO MORE SPOTS FOR QUESTIONS.
SORRY I WAS HERE LATE MR. YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, READING THE STAFF REPORT, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE A FD UH, CONDITIONS WAS REQUIREMENT SITE, AND STOP ME IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY ASKED THIS, BUT IS ESSENTIALLY TO GIVE A SMALL FIRE STATION WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE 500 SOUTH CONGRESS PUD DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? IS A FD JUST SIMPLY LOOKING FOR A SITE SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA? ARE THEY ASKING FOR BOTH SITES TO GIVE, UH, SPACE FOR FIRE TRUCKS AND APPARATUSES? UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO, BUT I WILL KIND OF GIVE YOU MY RESPONSE.
YOU ASKED IT BETTER ASK IT BETTER.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A FD WITH ME TONIGHT.
I DID ASK THEM IF THEY COULD ATTEND.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT THEY TOLD ME IS THAT THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ADDING THIS MUCH DENSITY IN THIS HEIGHT IN THESE AREAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE CAPACITY IN THIS AREA TO CO FOR OF COVERAGE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A FIRE STATION SITE WITHIN THIS AREA THAT COULD HANDLE THIS OR THE LADDER TRUCKS COULD HANDLE THESE LEVELS OF HEIGHT THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
SO THESE, YES, YOU ARE SEEING THE SAME COMMENTS THAT YOU WILL SEE IN, IN 500 SOUTH CONGRESS PUD, WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR SITES FROM THE APPLICANT SO THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE, UH, THESE NEW TYPES OF DENSITIES AND STRUCTURES IN THIS AREA.
AND SO GOING ON THAT, UH, TO PICK UP ON SOMETHING MR. SUBTLE
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SAID, THINKING ABOUT ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY IN THE DOCTRINE THAT WE CAN'T JUST ASK FOR EVERYTHING.HOW WOULD THAT FACTOR INTO ANY RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION OR OTHER SORT OF EXACTIONS FROM THIS SITE IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO PROVIDE THAT SPACE OR I DON'T KNOW IF HE AND LOU IS EVEN AN OPTION FOR THE, FOR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE SITE RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAIL, I COULD SEE A FUTURE WHERE WE HAVE AT GRADE RAIL AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A SORT OF SMALL FIRE STATION.
FEEDING ONTO A LIGHT RAIL ALIGNMENT.
AND MR. SETTLE ADDRESS THIS AS WELL OKAY.
ABOUT THIS SITE NOT REALLY BEING FEASIBLE FOR A FIRE STATION SITE.
SO IT MIGHT BE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER SITE IN THIS AREA.
UM, ALL I CAN PASS ALONG IS THAT A FD DID ASK FOR THIS AS A REQUIREMENT IN STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AND SO THAT IS WHY IT IS THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN LAST CLARIFYING QUESTION IS THAT, UM, BACK ON THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, JUST MAYBE MORE GENERALLY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS CONSIDERED AT THE TIME OF ZONING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PUD CASES? IS THE OVERALL TOTAL OF EXACTIONS REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, DEMANDS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UM, FROM AN APPLICANT FOR A PUD ZONING, USUALLY THE APPLICANT IS THE ONE PROPOSING THANKS TO THE STAFF AND WE REVIEW IT AS PART OF THE TIER TWO REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO THAT MAKES THEM SUPERIOR.
AND SO YOU'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE REQUESTS FROM, YOU KNOW, PARKS DEPARTMENT, FROM FIRE, FROM ENVIRONMENTAL SURE.
FROM ALL OF THESE, UH, DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
TRANSPORTATION TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE FOR STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND SO THAT IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO REST PROPORTIONALITY BECAUSE WE DON'T USUALLY LOOK AT IT IN THOSE TERMS WHEN WE'RE DOING IT AS STAFF.
EACH DEPARTMENT LOOKS AT WHAT THEY NEED AND THEN BRINGS THAT TO THE APPLICANT AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE NEGOTIATIONS BACK AND FORTH USUALLY FOR MONTHS OR EVEN SOMETIMES YEARS.
WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DEBATE BACK AND FORTH WHERE THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THINGS TO GIVE THEM BENEFITS TO THE PUD YEAH.
AS FAR AS TO PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS AREA.
COMMISSIONERS LAST SPOT FOR A QUESTION.
IF NONE, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.
WHO'S HAND THOSE OUT FIRST? MR. HAYNES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAYNES.
UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO MY OWN MOTION.
UM, BUT THE FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS ESSENTIALLY TO SAY, UH, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING THE MEMO FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
SEE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? I, I GUESS I'LL JUST START BY SAYING, SO I THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO MOVE ALONG.
I THINK WE'VE HEARD SOME CONVERSATION WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO WAIT FOR THE SOUTH CENTER WATERFRONT.
I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, I REMEMBER IN 2013 GOING ON A TOUR THROUGH THE SOUTH CENTER WATERFRONT, THE SOUTH CENTER WATERFRONT PLANNING AREA WITH CITY STAFF ON THIS WORK THAT WE WERE DOING.
HERE WE ARE OVER 11 YEARS LATER, AND I'LL BE HONEST, THAT PLAN HAS STILL NOT BEEN ADOPTED AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE'RE GETTING TO IT, IF WE'RE GETTING TO IT ALL AND THE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
SO WE'VE ALREADY HAVE ONE PART THAT MOVED AHEAD.
WE HAVE ANOTHER PART THAT HAS COME BEFORE US.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
HOW DO WE INTERLINK WITH OUR PLANNING, UM, DOCUMENTS.
BUT I ALSO WANNA SAY WHEN WE DO HAVE THAT DEGREE OF INACTION, IT DOES MAKE IT VERY HARD TO PUT THAT BURDEN ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
SO I DO THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A PUT WITH THE SUPERIORITY ELEMENTS IN THERE.
WE'VE GOT ENVIRONMENTAL SUPERIORITY ELEMENTS, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE SUPERIORITY IN, UM, ELEMENTS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT IS HAPPENING WITH AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUCCESSFUL PROJECT CONNECT AND OTHER CAP METRO INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.
AND THEN COMBINED WITH THAT, WE HAVE THE AFFORDABILITY AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS BEING PART OF IT AS WELL.
SO ALL THAT SAID, I DO THINK THIS MOVES US FORWARD TO MEETING DIFFERENT SETS OF GOALS OVER HERE WITH DIRECTION FROM OUR STAFF.
AND SO I'M COMFORTABLE AT THIS TIME WITH MOVING THIS AHEAD AND ENSURING THIS, THIS, AT LEAST THIS GOES TO COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IF THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO CONSIDER AS A PART OF IT.
THIS SPEAKING AGAINST MAD CHAIR.
UM, AND I, I APOLOGIZE TO MY VERY GOOD FRIEND, VICE CHAIRMAN AZAR.
I SHOULD HAVE, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS FIRST.
LET ME GET IT OUTTA THE WAY 'CAUSE I, I CAN COUNT.
UH, BUT I, I MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, THIS ITEM UNTIL OCTOBER,
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OR I'M SORRY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, WHATEVER OUR NEXT MEETING IS.UH, COMMISSIONER MOALA SECOND, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, YOUR SUBSTITUTE? SURE.
UM, UH, HAD HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AND, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IF THERE IS, UH, ONGOINGS AT CITY HALL, MR. SETTLE KNOWS ABOUT 'EM AND, UM, HE IS, HE IS AS IN PLUGGED IN AND INTUNE AND I, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT, UM, THINGS ARE GOING TO LAY OUT PRETTY MUCH THE WAY HE, HE OUTLINED THEM TODAY.
HE HAS A PRETTY GOOD KNACK AT PREDICTING, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
BUT ALL THAT HADN'T HAPPENED YET.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO A MAY AND A SUPPOSE ON A POSSIBLE ACTION WITH A PROBABLE.
AND WHEN YOU START COMBINING A POSSIBLE AND A PROBABLE WITH A SUSPECT, YOU GET ME NERVOUS.
AND SO I'D JUST LIKE TO LET A LITTLE BIT OF DUST SETTLE AND THEN TAKE THIS UP IN TWO WEEKS.
ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT VICE CHAIR? UM, I, I APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER HAYNES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT AT THE BASE OF IT, I MEAN PARTIALLY I'LL JUST BE OPPOSED TO THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION IN ADDITION TO SORT OF THE COMMENTS I'VE MADE, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD BY STAFF COUNSEL WILL CONSIDER THIS ON THE 26TH.
SO IF IT COMES BACK ON THE 24TH, WE'RE STILL NOT ACHIEVING WHAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE.
SO I'M NOT SURE, WE'RE JUST POSTPONING FOR TWO WEEKS WITHOUT ACHIEVING ANYTHING AT ALL.
SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.
ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR THE POSTPONEMENT OR AGAINST, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS.
THIS IS THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HAYNES, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MUTAL TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 24TH.
ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, THOSE AGAINST EIGHT.
THAT MOTION FAILS THREE TO EIGHT TO ZERO.
UM, THOSE VOTING FOR THE POSTPONEMENT WERE COMMISSIONERS HAYNES MOLER AND COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS.
DID I GET EVERYBODY'S VOTE? CORRECT.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
CAN I MAKE AN AMENDMENT? YES SIR.
UM, SO I'M GONNA MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT I NUMBER THREE IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
WE REVISE IT AND I'LL READ IT OUT AND THEN I'LL SPEAK TO IT, UM, WHEN I HAVE THE CHANCE.
SO IT'S, IT WOULD SAY, SO THREE AS DRAFTED WOULD BE REPLACED WITH 9,000 TO 11,000 SQUARE FEET UNFINISHED SPACE WITHIN THE LEVEL OF DISCHARGE GROUND FLOOR AND THE FLOOR ABOVE WITH A PRIVATE CONVENIENCE CHAIR.
ADEQUATE SPACE FOR TWO TO THREE APPARATUS BAYS AND APPROPRIATE APRON FOR FIRE SLASH EMS APPARATUS.
AND AN ENTRANCE EGRESS ON A MAJOR ROADWAY MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE SOUTH CENTER WATERFRONT PLANNING AREA IN CONSULTATION WITH THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT, AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY EMS WITH A LEASE EXECUTED OR THE SPACE CONVEYED OR THE SPACE IDENTIFIED PRIOR TO 55% OF CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE 200 EAST RIVERSIDE.
BUT HAVING BEEN ISSUED SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT AMENDMENT? SURE.
SO I THINK THIS ESSENTIALLY, UM, IS MY WAY OF SORT OF MEETING IN THE MIDDLE OF, I THINK WHAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS SAYING AND ALSO I THINK WITH THE DEVELOPER IS VERY CLEARLY INDICATING.
I THINK THIS MAKES SURE THAT AS THE P MOVES FORWARD, AS THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES ARE COMING IN, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL ISSUE ALL THE A HUNDRED PERCENT CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY UNTIL THAT IS DONE.
BUT IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A CITY WITH NOT JUST THIS DEVELOPER, BUT WITHIN THE ENTIRE PLANNING AREA TO HAVE FOUND A PLACE WHETHER IT'S AT LEAST EXECUTED OR SPACE CONVEYED OR SPACE IDENTIFIED.
IT SETS OUT THE PLAN THAT YES, WE'RE WORKING ON IT WHILE ENSURING THAT THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.
SO IT'S A COMPROMISE ON MY PART.
ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST MADAM CHAIR, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BEFORE I KNOW WHICH WAY I'M LEANING ON THIS ONE.
UM, IS THAT, IS THAT APPROPRIATE NOW OR DO YOU I I'LL TAKE ONE OF THE AGAINST BUT YOU POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE AMENDMENT AUTHOR.
UM, UH, VICE CHAIR, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF YOU WOULD TIE THAT TO THE, UM, I THINK YOU SAID THE PASSAGE OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT.
UH, NO, WHAT I, I JUST SAID THAT AS LONG AS SOMETHING IS IDENTIFIED IN THE PLANNING AREA, THE ENTIRE PLANNING AREA, AS LONG AS THE SPACE AS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTS, HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE PLANNING AREA, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES CAN MOVE FORWARD PAST 55%.
AND THEN IF, AS MR. SETTLE HAS PREDICTED HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES A NIGHT THAT THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ZONE DOESN'T MATERIALIZE, WHAT ARE WE GONNA, THE
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PLANNING AREA WAS DEFINED IN THE 2016 VISION PLAN.IT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW OVERLAY THAT'S IN THE VISION.
THE IMAGINE AUSTIN VISION PLAN 2016, THERE WAS A VISION PLAN FOR SOUTH CENTER WATERFRONT, UM, THAT WAS ADOPTED AT THE TIME AND IT WAS AS AN A AS AMENDMENT TO THE IMAGINE OFFICER.
IT WAS A VISION PLAN THAT WAS WORKED ON BY SCHWAB AT THE TIME AND THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN THE BASIS OF THE CONVERSATION.
IF YOU REMEMBER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, I WILL ESSENTIALLY DEFER TO STAFF IF STAFF TELLS US THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE A THING.
BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE CAN SAY REGION AREA, I'M HAPPY TO SAY ONE MILE RADIUS OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO SAY.
THE IDEA IS THAT WITHIN THE PROXIMITY TO THE SITE YOU WOULD HAVE THAT FACILITY AVAILABLE, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT IT HAS TO BE ON THIS SITE.
I'M STILL LEARNING ALL THOSE TERMS. I APPRECIATE YOU ALRIGHT THOUGH, SPEAKING AGAINST THIS MOTION ON THE AMENDMENT.
COMMISSIONER BARARA RAMIREZ, I JUST, CAN YOU, UM, VICE CHAIR, DO YOU MIND STATING YOUR AMENDMENT ONE MORE TIME JUST SO I'M CLEAR? SURE.
SO THIS PARTIALLY, HONESTLY, COMPLETELY BASED ON WHAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD WITH A FEW ADJUSTMENTS.
SO THIS WOULD SAY I WILL GO SLOWLY 9,000 TO 11,000 SQUARE FEET UNFINISHED SPACE WITHIN THE LEVEL OF DISCHARGE GROUND FLOOR AND FLOOR ABOVE WITH A PRIVATE CONVENIENCE STAIR ADEQUATE SPACE FOR TWO TO THREE APPARATUS SPACE IN APPROPRIAT