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THERE WAS, UM, SOMEBODY'S NAME THERE.
OH, I COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT WRONG.
[CALL TO ORDER]
ALL RIGHT.IT'S, UH, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH, 6:45 PM UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION
[MUSICAL PERFORMANCE]
TO ORDER.UH, WE'LL START WITH THE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE, OTIS THE DESTROYER.
I WOULD LOVE FOR COMMISSIONER BLEVINS TO MAYBE JUST, UH, PROVIDE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
THEY'RE A GREAT ENERGETIC, STRAIGHT UP ROCK BAND.
THANK YOU, SHELBY AGAIN FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING ALL OF THIS FOR US.
UM, ANY COMMENTS, UH, FROM ANYBODY BEFORE WE MOVE ON? THAT WAS IN JAM.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
UM, MOVING ON.LET'S, UH, LOOK AT APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
UH, IF EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES FROM, UH, THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON OCTOBER 7TH, IF SOMEBODY COULD PLEASE, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.
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MOTION TO APPROVE.WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, VICE CHAIR PATTERSON.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
ALL IN FAVOR? I'M GONNA ABSTAIN BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE LAST MEETING.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE ALSO ABSTAINING OF EIGHT VOTES IN FAVOR.
[2. Live Music Fund collections briefing by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]
PASSES.UH, THEN, UH, MOVING ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS.
WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, BRIEFING BY KIM MC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SO I'VE GOT, UH, THE PRESENTATION UP HERE FOR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE, ON THE SCREEN, THERE'S A SLIGHT, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NUMBER UP THERE FOR THE AMENDED BUDGET THAN WHAT'S ON THE PRINTOUT.
WE MADE THE CORRECTION HERE, UM, ON THE SCREEN.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, ALSO ADD THIS CORRECTED VERSION OF THIS REPORT TO THE, UH, TO THE, UM, UH, UH, TO THE WEBSITE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN, CAN HAVE THAT.
BUT, UM, ANYWAY, SO THE, FOR THE, UM, THE REPORT THROUGH SEPTEMBER, SO THE COLLECTIONS FOR SEPTEMBER, 2024, AND THIS WILL BE THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR 4,573, WHICH BROUGHT US TO AN END OF THE YEAR DATE OR AN, AND, AND, I'M SORRY, YEAR TO DATE, UH, TOTAL OF 4,455,096 FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SORRY.
UM, SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT, COMPARED TO THE BUDGET, AND I'M JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24, AMENDED BUDGET OF 5 MILLION, 5 75 MM-HMM.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE DIDN'T COLLECT AS MUCH AS NO.
SO, UM, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE 5 MILLION 5 75 NUMBER IS WRONG.
OH, I'VE MADE A CORRECTION ON THE SCREEN.
SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE SCREEN, SORRY, ON THE FY 24 AMENDED BUDGET NUMBER, IT'S 4 MILLION 1 15, 1 70.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW, THE OTHER NUMBER CAME FROM SOMEWHERE.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE ENCUMBRANCES AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN COMPARISON THERE.
SO THEN IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL.
YEAH, NO, I, I SAW THAT NUMBER AND I STARTED TALKING TO EVERYBODY IN THE STAFF, LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT CAN'T BE WHAT, WHY IS THAT NUMBER THERE? SO WE FIGURED OUT THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT NUMBER.
AND, UH, MADE THE CORRECTION, BUT BEFORE THE MEETING.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF BUDGET? RIGHT.
SO, UM, YEAH, NOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO THIS NUMBER, SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MAYBE IT COULD BE BETTER, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS BASICALLY THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, FOR THE END OF THE YEAR COLLECTION DATE, THIS IS TOTAL COLLECTIONS FOR THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2024.
UM, SO IT IS HIGHER THAN THE BUDGET, SO THAT MONEY GRANTED, YOU KNOW, AWARDS HAVE BEEN MADE.
SO ANYTHING OVER THE BUDGET I BELIEVE WOULD JUST GO TO THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT YEAR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, DIRECTOR RA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? SORRY, YOU, YOU CAME UP, BUT SHE, SHE SAID EVERYTHING CORRECT.
[3. FY24 Austin Live Music Fund briefing by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music and Entertainment Division.]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS F 5 24 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND BRIEFING BY ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE THERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
I'M A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER.
AND, UH, SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE 2024 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION BECAUSE THINGS ARE GOING QUITE SMOOTHLY, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, GETTING THE AGREEMENTS DONE AND THE PAYMENTS OUT.
UH, THE LONG CENTER HASN'T RUN INTO ANY ISSUES, AND SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE PAYMENTS OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UM, AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION YET ON A SURVEY THAT WILL BE GOING OUT TO, UM, ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AND AWARDEES.
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THE COM UM, UH, MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS WORKING ON THAT.AND SO WE HOPE TO BRING YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT VERY SOON, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IKA COMMISSIONERS, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE TOPIC? OKAY.
I, I, UH, COMMISSIONER CA I'M JUST QUICKLY TAKING A LOOK AT THE, UM, ANECDOTAL, UM, INFO HERE IN THE PACKET, AND I SEE, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, OH, OKAY.
UM, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER CAZADA, WE'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ON THAT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
[4. Feedback on 2024 Austin Live Music Fund by Pat Buchta, Chief Executive Officer, Austin Texas Musicians (ATXM).]
ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, FEEDBACK ON 2024 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND BY PAT TER, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS.AND, UH, LET ME START JUST BY SAYING, UH, WHAT A PLEASURE IT WAS ON FRIDAY NIGHT TO SHARE THE STAGE WITH SOME OF THEM.
UH, MY WONDERFUL MUSIC COMMISSIONERS HERE, UH, THE DION DF FEST ON FRIDAY, UH, WAS THE MOST DIVERSE BILL I THINK I'VE EVER SEEN IN AUSTIN.
AND THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, IT'S NOT OFTEN I GET TO TAKE OFF MY MUSIC ADVOCACY HAT AND JUST BE A MUSICIAN, SO THAT WAS REALLY NICE FOR ME.
UH, BUT YES, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, UM, I KNOW WE'RE ALL, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UH, I THINK WHEN WE WERE IN THE LIBRARY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, UH, WE VERY BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BUZZ AND A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
UH, I THINK, UH, AS ALWAYS, SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS THING IN 2019, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIAN'S ROLE IS SIMPLY TO, UM, GATHER THE VOICES OF THOSE.
UH, WE SERVE, WE HAVE A AUDIENCE OF ABOUT 6,000, UH, CENTRAL TEXAS MUSICIANS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB HERE REALLY IS TO LISTEN TO THEM AND TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK TO EVERYONE HERE.
UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I DO WANNA REITERATE WHAT I SAID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, DESPITE ANY CRITICISMS OUT THERE, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY THAT DOES NOT EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES.
THIS IS THE FIRST EVER SUSTAINABLE PUBLIC FUNDING FOR MUSIC IN THE US, UH, SOURCED BY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS HAS WORKED SO HARD, SO HARD TO GET TO THIS POINT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR AND, UH, GOING INTO THE THIRD YEAR, AND ALL WE CAN DO IS IMPROVE, UH, THIS PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE GONNA SEE IS THAT WE'VE MADE LEAPS AND BOUNDS FROM LAST YEAR, UH, BUT WE MAY, UH, STILL HAVE SOME AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
SO I'M JUST GONNA SHARE, UH, THE FIRST OF A TWO PART PRESENTATION.
TONIGHT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IS JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR WITH THE ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK, THE COMMENTS THAT WE GATHERED FROM OUR PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP, UH, WHAT I WILL PRESENT IN THE SECOND HALF WILL BE THE SURVEY DATA, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE DO HAVE A SURVEY, UH, THAT WE LAUNCHED, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AND NOT TO STEP ON ANY TOES OF THE SURVEY THAT'S GOING OUT FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT, UH, HERE, BUT I THINK WE DID SOME DEEP LISTENING WITHIN OUR, UH, MUSICIAN COMMUNITY TO, UM, COME UP WITH QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANTED, UH, TO ANSWER.
AND SO, UM, WE ARE GONNA KEEP THAT SURVEY OPEN.
I THINK IF, IF THE NEXT MEETING IS ON THE, UH, DECEMBER 2ND, I WILL NOT BE IN TOWN.
SO WE MAY WAIT TILL JANUARY AND KEEP THAT SURVEY OPEN FOR JUST ANOTHER, UH, LITTLE WHILE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A REALLY BIG SAMPLE SIZE.
BUT, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START TO GET INTO IT.
UH, THIS IS THE 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, FEEDBACK.
UH, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST LIKE WE SAY, ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT FACTS, THESE ARE OPINIONS.
THESE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST PERSPECTIVES THAT WE HEARD A LOT OF THE MUSICIANS, UH, SHARE.
AND THIS IS A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE OF EVERYTHING WE GATHERED.
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LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION CLOSED, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS RECEIVED A WIDE RANGE OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR MEMBERS IN FORMING US OF BOTH SHORTFALLS AND BENEFITS TO THE CURRENT FORMAT.WHAT FOLLOWS IS ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT ILLUSTRATES THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE APPLICATION.
AND WE HOPE THAT THIS DATA SET WILL SERVE TO ASSIST STAFF AND COMMISSION IN INFORMING ROUND THREE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
THIS INFORMATION WILL BE PRESENTED IN TWO PARTS.
LIKE I SAID, OUR FIRST PRESENTATION WILL OFFER A SNAPSHOT OF JUST SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK FROM THE MUSICIANS WHO APPLIED OUR SECOND PRESENTATION IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY.
UH, WE'LL INTRODUCE DATA FROM OUR DETAILED 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND FEEDBACK SURVEY, AND THERE IS A LINK TO THAT SURVEY AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.
WE'RE JUST GONNA READ THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.
UH, NUMBER ONE, IT MAKES NO SENSE WHY THE 4.5 MILLION FUND CAN'T SIMPLY BE DIVIDED AND ALLOCATED FOR ALL WORKING MUSICIANS THAT APPLY.
UM, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, I THINK THESE, IT'S JUST GOOD TO MAKE NOTE OF THESE.
THESE ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER, UH, AND MAKE NOTE OF AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, I FOUND THE WHOLE PROCESS OVERWHELMING IN THE DIRECTIONS.
SOME ARE SAYING IF YOU ARE TOO WORDY IN YOUR APP, YOU GET DENIED.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO BACK UP, YOU GET DENIED AFTER READING SOME OF THESE POSTS OF APPLICANTS THAT WON.
I'M HAPPY FOR THEM, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
BUT I'M SAD FOR MUSICIANS LIKE ME WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD FOR OVER 20 YEARS IN BAM DOOR SLAM.
MAYBE NEXT YEAR WILL BE BETTER.
THERE NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENCY ON WHAT OUR SCORES WERE.
THERE WAS A RUBRIC THEY NEED TO PROVIDE OUR SCORES WITH A BREAKDOWN AS IT RELATES TO THE RUBRIC.
NOT PROVIDING OUR ACTUAL SCORES IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
UH, THIS IS QUICKLY AND EASILY SHARED IF YOU APPLY TO ARTS DIVISION FUNDING.
I KNOW THERE'S A FRIENDLY RIVALRY BETWEEN THE TWO DIVISIONS, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND WOULD MEAN COMMUNITY RELATIONS TO USE SOME CAD PROTOCOL WITH LMF.
IN THE FIRST YEAR, WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THE GROWING PAINS AND STILL APPRECIATE THE FACT THIS EXISTS, BUT NOW IT NEEDS TO BE HELD UP TO OTHER CITY OF AUSTIN GRANT PROTOCOL STANDARDS.
ALL OF THIS TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE STAFF IMMENSELY.
I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE A LOT OF THE FOLKS ON THIS THREAD TO GO DOWN TO CITY HALL AND ATTEND MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.
UH, SO GOT A RESPONSE EMAIL BACK SAYING OUR APPS WILL BE USED AS A DATA POINT FOR MORE MONEY THE CITY NEEDS FOR ARTISTS.
BUT DIDN'T ANSWER MY INITIAL QUESTION ABOUT LETTING APPLICANTS KNOW WHERE THEY COULD DO BETTER ON THEIR OWN APPS AS MORE MONEY MEANS NOTHING.
IF ARTISTS KEEP GETTING DENIED BECAUSE OF APP ISSUES, THEY SAID WE COULD TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR, YAY, BUT WITH NO ADDITIONAL INFO ON HOW TO IMPROVE ANYTHING.
SO YEAH, SUCK IT UP AND TRY AGAIN, BASICALLY.
UH, LAST YEAR WAS ALSO 5K AND 10 K GRANTS, AND THIS YEAR WAS 15 AND 30 K GRANTS.
SO IF THEY HAD KEPT THEM, THIS KEPT THE SAME AMOUNT AS LAST YEAR, UH, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND, OR THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO FUND MORE PEOPLE, NOT FEWER.
UH, THEY PENALIZE YOU IF YOU GOT THE GRANT LAST YEAR AND MOVING FORWARD, YOU CAN ONLY GET IT EVERY OTHER YEAR IF YOU WIN.
SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR PROFESSIONALS TO PLAN IN ANY SORT OF MEANINGFUL WAY.
UH, THAT COMBINED WITH HAVING THE SAME STIPULATIONS TIED TO THE ELEVATE, THRIVE AND NEXUS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WINNING ONE DISQUALIFIES YOU FROM THE OTHERS.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE TIMING IS ALL SKEWED.
SO IF YOU LOSE THIS ONE, THEN YOU HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO APPLY FOR THE OTHERS OR SPEND WEEKS OF YOUR TIME APPLYING FOR MORE THAN ONE, KNOWING THAT IF YOU GET ONE, YOU DON'T GET THE OTHER.
AND THE DESIRE TO FUND NEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER GOTTEN GRANTS IS IN CONFLICT WITH A DESIRE TO DO LARGE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS, IN MY OPINION.
UH, AT LEAST WITH THE OLD CULTURAL FUNDING, YOU KNEW IF YOU WON, YOU WERE GOOD FOR TWO YEARS AND YOU COULD MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL PLANS.
NOW IT'S JUST RUNNING FROM GRANT TO GRANT, LIKE A CHICKEN WITH OUR HEADS CUT OFF.
I THINK IT'S NOBLE TO BE SUPPORTING NEW FOLKS, BUT IT DOES COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT FOR A LONG TIME.
UNLESS YOU'RE IN AN INSTITUTIONAL NONPROFIT
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WITH LONG-TERM FUNDING SECURED.AND THOSE ARE FEWER AND FEWER.
IT'S HARD TO BE A MUSICIAN AND A FULL-TIME GRANT WRITER, BUT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
UH, IT'S BAFFLING TO ME TO READ THROUGH THIS THREAD AND SEE SO MANY AMAZING MUSICIANS WHO DIDN'T GET A GRANT.
I WAS ORDERED, AWARDED A GRANT THIS TIME AROUND.
THE APPLICATION PROCESS WAS A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN LAST YEAR.
YES, SOVIA, YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT, BUT WE'RE THROWING OUR HANDS UP.
UH, BUT THE SELECTION PROCESS DOES LOOK, UH, TO BE A BIT DODGY.
I RECEIVED THE GRANT AFTER MISSING OUT LAST YEAR, I WAS DETERMINED TO IMPROVE MY APPROACH.
I ATTENDED THE MOHA GRANT WRITING WORKSHOP, WHICH WAS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE TOP TAKEAWAY WAS TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.
THEY EMPHASIZE WRITING AS IF THE READER MIGHT NOT HAVE AN ADVANCED READING LEVEL.
AND TO USE TOOLS LIKE CHAT GPT TO JU DOUBLE CHECK GRAMMAR, IT'S ALSO CRUCIAL TO PROPERLY NAME YOUR DOCUMENTS AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS CLEAR AND EASY TO FOLLOW.
WITH OVER 1200 APPLICANTS TO REVIEW, THE REVIEWERS APPRECIATE SIMPLICITY.
I FOCUSED ON GIVING THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEEDED, NOTHING EXTRA.
THE APPROACH MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE, AND IT PAID OFF.
NEXT YEAR ATTEND THE MUSEUM OF HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO PAUSE ON THAT ONE AND, AND SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO DEFINITELY GATHER SOME OF THESE SUCCESS STORIES BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOME OF THESE, UH, SUCCESSFUL AWARDEES ARE WILLING, UM, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THEY BROUGHT IT UP.
MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME SORT OF WORKSHOPS, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
SO I APPROACHED IT ONE DAY AT A TIME.
I FOCUSED ON ONE QUESTION, TOOK A BREAK THE NEXT DAY, AND REPEATED THE PROCESS.
I ENDED UP SUBMITTING IT ON THE FINAL DAY.
I REALIZED THAT WE COULD CREATE A, OR I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD CREATE A FACEBOOK GROUP OR ORGANIZE A MEETUP TO SHARE TECHNIQUES ON HOW TO FILL OUT THESE GRANTS PROPERLY.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT WE NOW KNOW WHAT THEY EXPECT FROM BANDS EACH YEAR.
MAKE SURE TO PLAY SHOWS AND GET PHOTO PROOF OF PERFORMING AT A DA COMPLIANT EVENTS OR PROVIDING SERVICES FOR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS.
UH, CONSIDER CREATING FLYERS IN BRAILLE.
GATHER EVIDENCE OF PARTICIPATING IN LATINX SHOWS, HAVE NON-DISCRIMINATION POLICIES, AND DOCUMENT YOUR SUPPORT FOR LOCAL MUSICIANS AND BUSINESSES.
START DOING THESE THINGS NOW SO YOU'LL BE PREPARED FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, WISE WORDS FOR ALL FUTURE APPLICANTS.
UH, THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT APPLIED AND SINCE THEY CHANGED THE FUNDING AMOUNTS TO LARGER SUMS THIS YEAR, LESS PEOPLE PICKED.
THIS JUST MEANS WE ALL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE IN THE FUTURE.
HEART, HEART EMOJI WITH MUSIC NOTES.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ADD.
UH, CONGRATS TO ALL, UH, WHOSE PROJECTS WERE SELECTED.
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL CREATE THIS YEAR.
NO LUCK THIS TIME, BUT APPRECIATE THAT THE OFFER IS EVEN THERE.
WITH THE HIGHER AMOUNTS OF APPLICANTS IN A LARGER PURSE, IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF APPROVAL VERSUS DENIAL WILL BE SMALLER OR GREATER DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT.
UH, READING THE GRANT APPLICATION, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THIS WASN'T GEARED TOWARDS WORKING MUSICIANS, BUT RATHER PROMOTERS, VENUES, AND EVENT COORDINATORS.
QUESTIONS LIKE, I'M PARAPHRASING.
ARE YOU MAKING SURE YOUR VENUES ARE A DA COMPLIANT? UH, I BOOK MY GIGS, I SHOW UP AND I PLAY THE VENUES.
A DA COMPLIANCY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY WORK AS IT PERFORMING MUSICIAN.
UH, THE APPLICATION STRUCK ME AS BEING TOO FOCUSED ON PERSONAL IDENTITY.
IT SHOULDN'T MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE OR WHO YOU SLEEP WITH.
AFTER APPLYING AS A TOURING ACT THAT HAS 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON AUSTIN MUSIC AWARD, NATIONAL RADIO SINGLES, AND AN ESTABLISHED INTERNATIONAL FAN BASE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LIST OF WINNING GRANTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT THEY'RE AWARDING.
THAT ALONE WOULD BE SO CONSTRUCTIVE AND HELPFUL.
A LOT OF NONPROFIT FUNDERS DO THAT.
IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE THE CITY PUTS THE LIST, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT.
UH, WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET OUR MONEY FROM LAST YEAR'S GRANT.
SO MANY HOOPS YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
LAST WE HEARD WE HAD TO REWORD SOMETHING, OR RATHER, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
UH, DENIED BECAUSE I LIVE IN LOCKHART BALONEY.
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I GUESS MY INABILITY TO SHOW PROOF THAT I WAS PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE ALL VENUES AT PLAY WERE A DA COMPLIANT WAS A BIG FACTOR IN BEING DENIED AMONG OTHER FACTORS.I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OR WHEN IT BECAME A PERFORMANCE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO A JOB A CITY INSPECTOR IS SUPPOSED TO DO, OR WHY THE CITY WOULD EXPECT THAT PERFORMERS ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON WHAT IS REQUIRED TO BE A DA COMPLIANT.
UH, I KNOW A PERSON THAT HAS NEVER EVEN PLAYED A GIG THAT GOT 10 K LAST YEAR.
UH, I ATTENDED AN ONLINE CLASS AND A MIDDLE AGED PERSON ASKED IF THEY COULD APPLY IF THEY PLAYED IN A BAND BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL.
AND WERE TOLD AN ENTHUSIASTIC YES, THE BAR WAS INDEED VERY LOW, AND THE BAR IS WHAT'S HURTING THE WORKING MUSICIANS THAT NEED SOME HELP, GETTING NEW RECORDINGS, VIDEOS, ET CETERA.
THERE WERE A TON OF PROMOTERS IN THE CLASS ALSO.
IT WAS NOT JUST FOR MUSICIANS.
UH, AND I THINK THIS IS THE FINAL ONE.
I WANTED TO END ON A POSITIVE NOTE.
I DIDN'T GET IT EITHER BELOW THIS PROGRAM.
ANYWAY, I'M GONNA KEEP TRYING.
UH, AND SO THERE IS THE LINK TO THE, UH, MORE DETAILED, UH, DATA SURVEY.
I THINK IF YOU GUYS GO THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE REALLY, UH, CONSTRUCTED THE QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT THE MUSICIANS FELT LIKE THEY WANTED, UH, INFORMATION AROUND AND WANTED TO ANSWER.
AND WE HOPE IT'S, UH, AS COMPREHENSIVE AS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL CAN REACH OUT TO ME, BUT I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT.
I PRESENT THIS EVIDENCE TODAY SIMPLY WITHOUT ANY BIAS.
THIS IS JUST THE EVIDENCE WE GATHERED FROM OUR MUSICIANS IN THE GROUP.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT TO CHEW ON HERE AND A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, AND AS WE GATHER THE DATA FROM THE SURVEY THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THAT IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AS WELL.
UH, AND I GUESS, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE WORKING GROUP MAY RESUME AROUND THIS TOPIC, BUT WE HOPE THAT THIS INFORMATION, AS ALWAYS, IS INSTRUMENTAL IN GUIDING THAT PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, SHARING, UM, ALL THAT FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THE NEXT, UH, SET OF INFORMATION THAT YOU WILL OFFER US HERE.
UM, AGAIN, UH, ON THE, FROM EDD, UM, WHEN WAS THE SURVEY DATA GONNA BE AVAILABLE? IS THERE, THERE IS A SURVEY THAT GOES OUT, RIGHT? SO I THINK ERICA HAD MENTIONED IT.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, THAT I'M WAITING FOR OUR TEAM WITHIN EDD TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION OF WHEN A SURVEY WILL GO OUT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S GOING OUT ACROSS ALL PROGRAMS, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION OF WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN.
YEAH, I THINK, UM, YEAH, I THINK COLLECTIVELY, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST GRASSROOTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS A FORMAL SURVEY FROM, UH, UH, THE CITY SHOULD YIELD AS PRETTY GOOD, UH, INFORMATION, UH, ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
UH, QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
HEY, PAT, HOW DO YOU, WHAT'S YOU SLEEP BY THE WAY? YOU'RE ALWAYS WORKING.
THIS IS CRAZY, DUDE, MAN, I, AND THANKS FOR LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU DO.
FOR, FOR MUSIC AND MUSICIANS AND THE SCENE IN GENERAL HERE.
AND JUST GRATEFUL TO KNOW YOU AND FOR ALL THE THINGS YOU DO.
UM, I THINK IT'S SO COOL THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS AND THAT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE'S VOICES ARE HEARD THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY PARTICIPATING HERE, AND THAT SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T MAKE IT FOR WHATEVER REASONS, PERSONAL OR OTHERWISE THEY HAVE.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT GOVERNMENT IS FOR.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT.
IT'S JUST TO HAVE PEOPLE'S VOICES HEARD AND, AND DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH THAT INFORMATION.
AND HAPPY TO HEAR IT AND BE A PART OF THAT VOICE TOO.
UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THE COMMENTS WERE PUT INTO THIS AND WAS THIS VETTED IN ANY WAY OR, MM-HMM.
HOW ARE THESE COMMENTS CHOSEN? AND MY FEAR IS THAT IF IT'S NOT VETTED OR FACT CHECKED, THAT IT'S SPREADING MISINFORMATION AND MAYBE EVEN DISINFORMATION AT TIMES.
'CAUSE I DID SEE SOME STUFF THERE THAT I THINK, LIKE, IF THERE WAS SOME FACT CHECKING, IT COULD BE, UH, AMELIORATED OR, OR FIXED.
I I THINK THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, IS VERY, THIS IS UNFILTERED INFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY, AND I THINK SOME OF THE TALKING POINTS, UH, OR RATHER SOME OF THE COMMENTS MAY JUST POINT TO THE FACT THAT SOME ISSUES NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.
YOU KNOW, IF MUSICIANS HAVE THE WRONG IDEA ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S OUR JOB AND AS, AS WELL AS THE JOB OF EVERYONE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT MUSICIANS ARE EDUCATED, UH, ABOUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE GOING FORWARD.
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ANYTHING, THIS IS JUST PRESENTED, UH, TO RAISE AWARENESS OF WHAT, UH, THE OPINIONS ARE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, PERSPECTIVES ARE, AND TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER THEY MAY BE FACTUAL OR NOT.AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THOSE.
UH, COMMISSIONER PRICE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER
JUST FOR THE PROCESS, UM, I WASN'T ONE OF THE MUSICIANS OR PROMOTERS THAT APPLIED THIS GO AROUND, BUT THE A DA QUESTION SEEMS TO, OR THE A DA ISSUE POPS UP A LOT.
WAS THE APPLICATION THE SAME FOR VENUES, PROMOTERS, AND MUSICIANS? AND THEN WHAT WERE MUSICIANS REQUIRED TO DO? AND WAS THE A DA PORTION WEIGHTED MORE HEAVILY THAN ANY OTHER, UM, RUBRIC? I'M GONNA LET ERICA ANSWER THAT.
ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
UH, NO, THERE WERE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS FOR VENUES AND THEN ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR PROMOTERS AND MUSICIANS.
UH, THE A DA SECTION WAS JUST A SMALL SECTION OF, UM, THAT PART OF THE SCORING RUBRIC THAT WAS FOR ACCESSIBILITY.
AND THERE WAS, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF, OBVIOUSLY THE QUESTION AROUND A DA AND VENUES DOESN'T REALLY RELATE TO THE MUSICIANS.
IT WAS THE ADDITIONAL THINGS MUSICIANS WOULD DO, LIKE PROVIDING, UM, A MORE ACCESSIBLE WEBSITE.
UM, OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BEING A MUSICIAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE VENUE THEY'RE PLAYING IN THE VENUES HAD THAT TYPE OF QUESTION.
AND, AND SO IT WAS MORE ABOUT JUST SHOWING US, HEY, IF YOU HIRED AN A SL INTERPRETER, SHOW US EVIDENCE OF THAT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A CANCELED CHECK TO THE INTERPRETER OR A PICTURE.
AND SO IT WAS RELEVANT TO THE A DA, UM, ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS THAT THE MUSICIANS OR THE PROMOTERS WERE ADDING TO, UM, FOR THEIR COMMUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THEIR SHOWS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE SAMPLE SIZE, UH, WE PICKED THE COMMENTS THAT REALLY HAD THE MOST, UH, TEXTUAL INFORMATION.
UH, WE DIDN'T REALLY INCLUDE ALL THE ONE WORD COMMENTS, LIKE DENIED OR BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, YOU KNOW, OR WE, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE ALL THOSE, BUT WE, UH, THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAD ANY SORT OF, UH, GRAVITY TO 'EM.
CARVALHO, COMMISSIONER, UH, PRICE, UH, COMMISSIONER CASDA, YOU HAD, UH, SOME COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER PRICE, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO THE, OKAY.
UM, I, I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THANK YOU, PAT, FOR ALL THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOU DO, UM, WITH YOUR NONPROFIT AND, UM, COLLECTING ALL THIS AMAZING FEEDBACK AND DATA.
I THINK I'M ECHOING, UM, PEDRO'S THOUGHTS TOO, LIKE, SO THIS, THESE ARE ANECDOTAL QUOTES AND FEEDBACK FROM A SURVEY THAT YOU, YOUR NONPROFIT PUT TOGETHER, AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIAL, IF YOU WILL, OTHER THAN INDIVIDUAL WORDS OR WHATEVER.
TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS ONE, UH, FACEBOOK POST INSIDE THE GROUP.
AND THESE ARE THE COMMENTS WITHIN THAT POST.
UH, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS IS REALLY MORE DETAILED SURVEY DATA.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE JUDGING THINGS ON A SCALE, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A SMALL SECTION TO, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AT THE END.
BUT REALLY THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL FEEDBACK THAT WAS, THAT WAS PROBABLY HAPPENING WITHIN THE, THE FIRST WEEK OF THE AWARD ANNOUNCEMENTS.
AND SO THEN I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP WOULD BE, UM, AGAIN, SO SOME OF THESE, UM, RESPONSES DON'T SEEM QUITE ACCURATE.
AND SO THEREFORE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ALMOST NEED AN FAQ MM-HMM.
UH, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY IT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I I, I, I THINK I SAID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I DON'T WANT TO STIR THE POT.
WHAT I, WHAT I THINK OUR GOAL REALLY HERE IS, IS TO UNIFY THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF VITRIOL AROUND THE, UH, INITIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, SO IN JUST PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION, I HOPE THAT WE HAVE NOT, UH, SPREAD ANY MISINFORMATION, BUT RATHER JUST RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT SOME POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.
UM, WE ARE REALLY JUST HERE TO HELP.
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YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK, I THINK MISUNDERSTANDING OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A FUNDS COULD JUST, AS WE ALL ARE AWARE, COULD COME FROM BECAUSE OF MULTITUDE OF REASONS, RIGHT? IS, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, EITHER SOME FOLKS, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCESSED MAYBE ADDITIONAL HELP.SOME FOLKS DIDN'T, SOME FOLKS KNEW ADDITIONAL HELP WAS AVAILABLE OR NOT.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF, UH, HOW MUCH WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, UH, ADVERTISING IS HAPPENING.
ALSO, HOW MUCH, UH, MAYBE PERHAPS AN INDIVIDUAL IS REACHING OUT TO GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION, RIGHT? IT'S, BUT I DO AGREE WITH, UH, PAT THAT, UH, THAT THERE IS SOME MISINFORMATION.
IF THERE IS A INCORRECT STATEMENT, I, I THINK IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES US AWARE THAT THAT, UH, THAT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT GAP IS THERE, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON IT MIGHT BE.
AND THAT PROBABLY JUST GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT IN SOME WAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I'LL CONTINUE, BUT PLEASE, YES.
BUT I, I THINK THAT'S COULD BE A DANGEROUS RHETORIC.
IF YOU GO ON THE INTERNET, AGREE, AND YOU LOOK FOR ALL COMMENTS THAT PERTAIN TO THIS, AND YOU PUT 'EM ALL HERE, AND A LOT OF THIS IS NOT THIS, BUT LIKE, COULD BE MISINFORMATION THEN OR DISINFORMATION, AND THEN IT JUST BECOMES DANGEROUS RHETORIC AT SOME POINT.
I FEEL LIKE IF WE STUCK TO LIKE THIS FORMAT, BUT IT'S PEOPLE'S PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND HOW THEY WERE AFFECTED BY THIS PROGRAM AND HOW THEY FELT THEY WENT THROUGH IT, AND THEIR DIFFICULTIES GETTING THROUGH THE, THE APPLICATION, THEN I THINK THEY COULD BE ADDRESSED A LITTLE EASIER.
BUT TO LOOK FOR COMMENTS ON THE INTERNET THAT PERTAIN TO THIS PROGRAM AND PUT IN HERE COULD JUST HONESTLY JUST BE SPREADING MORE, UH, MISINFORMATION THAN, THAN WE NEED IT TO BE.
I, I, I AGREE ALREADY, KIND OF TUMULTUOUS SITUATION.
I, I AGREE THAT, THAT, THAT THAT COULD CREATE AN ISSUE.
UM, UH, NOT DENYING THAT AT ALL.
UM, IT'S JUST, UH, THAT IT IS, IT IS COMING FROM, UH, WHATEVER SOURCE IT IS COMING IN FROM.
UM, END OF THE DAY, THE FACT IS THAT IT, IT, SOMEBODY SAID IT AND IT EXISTS THERE, AND IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, SOMEBODY COULD COME TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND SAY THE SAME THING AND WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IN THAT INFORMATION.
UH, BUT I, IN, IN, IN, BUT WHAT YOU'RE ALSO, I GUESS, IS REQUESTING, MAYBE YOU ARE ASKING PAT TO KIND OF, WHAT IS THE METHODOLOGY TO BRING THAT INFORMATION FORTH? HOW ARE YOU CHOOSING ONE COMMENT VERSUS THE OTHER TO SHARE? NO, I HAVE NO, I HAVE NO SUGGESTION TO PAT.
PAT KNOWS SO MUCH MORE THAN I DO.
IT'S SO HARDWORKING AND IT IS AMAZING.
UM, YEAH, I'M JUST, UH, TAKING THIS INFORMATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THE TIME TO, TO DISSECT IT.
AND, UM, THOSE WERE MY INITIAL REACTIONS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I HAVE NO SUGGESTIONS IN HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO SUCH A GREAT JOB, AND I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
BUT THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT.
UM, COMMISSIONER CAVALO, I, I GOTTA GET USED TO USING Y'S TERMS. GOOD.
BUT, UM, NO, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
AND I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION, IT'S VERY UNFILTERED.
UM, THERE, THERE CAN BE SOME POINTS OF CLARIFICATION TO MAKE.
AND I THINK OUR HOPE, UH, REALLY IN PRESENTING THIS IS, IS TO GET IT ALL OUT THERE, JUST TO KINDA LAY IT OUT ALL, ALL ON THE TABLE SO THAT WE'RE, WE, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS ARE NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM, BUT PART OF THE SOLUTION, IF THERE IS EDUCATION, UH, IF THERE'S POINTS AROUND THESE TO BE MADE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU GUYS, WITH THE CITY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CLARIFY THOSE POINTS TO OUR AUDIENCE.
UM, IF Y'ALL DON'T, I'D LIKE TO CHERRY PICK ONE, UH, ANECDOTE, UM, AND, AND SEE IF, UM, ERICA COULD POSSIBLY ANSWER, UM, THIS DENIED BECAUSE I LIVE IN LOCKHART, AS I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN LIVE IN LOCKHART, BUT YOUR, YOU, UM, YOUR WORK HAS TO BE, UH, EXHIBITED IN AUSTIN.
IS THAT CONFIRM OR DENY? I AM UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.
UM, YOU HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO APPLY TO BE ELIGIBLE, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE MSA AND, UH, 49% OF YOUR EXPENSES CAN TAKE PLACE OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
WHILE 50% NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICTS, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T ALL ABOUT EVENTS, THIS IS ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT MUSIC ACTIVITIES.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS FOR LOCKHART.
KEN CAN TELL US WHETHER OR NOT LOCKHART IS WITHIN THE MSA, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS.
I, AS I UNDERSTAND LAST TIME, THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WAS, THEY LIVED IN LOCKHART, BUT THEY
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CREATED AN EVENT IN AUSTIN, UM, AND I BELIEVE THEY WERE FUNDED.I AM WOULD LOVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT IF, IF IT'S READILY ACCESSIBLE.
I'M ALSO CURIOUS WHO YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH TO GET THE GRANT, BUT THAT'S
WELL, AND THESE ARE EXACTLY THE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS.
I THINK WE WANT THESE COMMENTS TO DISPLAY.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, STRICKLAND, I'LL, I'LL GET YOU RIGHT AFTER.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THOUGH, I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION AROUND, UM, IF, IF THE, IF THE, THE POST SURVEY, IS IT OPEN TO PUBLIC OR IS IT OPEN TO AT XM MUSICIANS ONLY? UH, IT'S ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, INCLUDING WHERE THE COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM.
UH, WELL, EVERYTHING'S ANONYMOUS, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S IDENTITY IS, IS BUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST, IS IT, IS IT LIMITED? IS IT PUBLIC? OH, YEAH.
THAT ONE IS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE GROUP, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTERS, WE WANT TO PROTECT THEIR IDENTITIES.
UM, SO, UH, JUST, JUST JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION AS WELL.
AND, UM, AND, AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, UM, ALL FOR ALL FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, GETTING FEEDBACK.
UM, AND I THINK, UM, I WOULD JUST, UH, JUST ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE, AND, AND, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THIS, IS, I THINK, UM, IT IS, UH, THE ONUS IS ON US AS WELL AS TO HOW WHEN SOMEBODY REACHES OUT TO US ABOUT, UM, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT IS NOT CORRECT, OR, OR IF WE CHOOSE TO RESPOND, UH, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, OR ELSEWHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE, UH, DUE RESPONSIBILITY IN HOW WE ARE RESPONDING, UH, THERE AS COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE, OR EITHER WE HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND WE PROVIDE THAT.
UM, WE CHOOSE NOT TO RESPOND ONLINE.
IT'S, IT'S ALL EVERYBODY'S, UH, OWN WAY OF DOING THIS.
OR IF, IF, OR IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE INFORMATION, PLEASE GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION BEFORE WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROCESS ONLINE.
UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, PLEASE.
O UM, UH, PAT, THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR THAT, FOR THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TO US.
I HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS HOW MANY, UH, PEOPLE WERE SAMPLED, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, FOR THE, FOR WHAT YOU SAW HERE TODAY? THIS IS, UM, I THINK WE HAD A, AROUND 272 COMMENTS.
YOU'RE SEEING A SMALL SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THAT IS.
UH, BUT AGAIN, MOST OF THE, A LOT OF THOSE WERE JUST SIMPLE ONE WORD COMMENTS ON WHETHER THEY, UH, WERE DENIED OR, OR GOT THE AWARD.
UH, WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS THE REAL, REALLY THE BEEF OF, OF THOSE COMMENTS.
SO OUT OF THOSE 200 SOMETHING COMMENTS, I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT CONTINUITY WITH, UM, THAT THAT'S CONCERNING, YOU KNOW, GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS, A DA COMPLIANCE, UH, THERE'S, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME LOCATION THINGS, BUT THEN THE APPLICATION AS WELL.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WARRANTED, UH, TO, TO GIVE THAT FEEDBACK.
AND I THINK IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 200 SOME ODD PEOPLE SAYING BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME THING, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME CREDENCE TO BE GIVEN CONCERNING THAT.
I THINK NUMBER TWO, UH, THE, UM, IT, IT, I THINK TO PAT'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE, I, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO LIKE, PUT THESE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND PUT THEIR FACES OR LIKE TAKE A SCREENSHOT OF THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, COMMENT THAT WAS MADE, OR HAVE THEM LIST THEIR NAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE WANT THEM TO SORT OF REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHEN THEY'RE GIVING THIS FEEDBACK SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEMS OR ISSUES WITH FUTURE APPLICATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF THING OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
UM, AND YOU, I MEAN, THIRDLY, I MEAN, THE CITY DID RELEASE THE LIST AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S, AT LEAST I KNOW AT LEAST, UM, ONE PERSON THAT GOT THE GRANT THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE AT ALL.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON THAT IS ON AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE AT ALL.
SO IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS, I'LL BE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MY OWN FINDINGS AND, AND COMING BACK WITH, WITH, WITH, UM, IMPROVEMENTS I THINK THEY NEED TO MAKE.
BUT GOING, ALSO GOING BACK TO THE ADA, A COMPLIANCE THING, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY, AND, AND, AND, AND SPEAKING TO THAT
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POINT FROM THE MUSICIAN'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE ON THE VENUE.THE OWNER SHOULD BE ON THE VENUE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY PART OF OUR APPLICATION AT ALL.
UM, THE, AND, AND, AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY SCORED HIGHER IF WE DID PROVIDE THE A DA COMPLIANCE, IF WE COULD PROVE THAT WE DID.
SO GIVEN HOW CLOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GRANT APPLICATION WAS 101 MUSICIANS AWARDED, OR BEING APPLICANTS AWARDED VERSUS 1200 PEOPLE THAT APPLIED THAT PERCENTAGE POINT, MAYBE A HUNDREDTH OR A, YOU KNOW, OR A 10TH OF, OF A PERCENTAGE POINT, MAYBE EVEN A THOUSAND OF A PERCENTAGE POINT WHEN IT COMES TO 80 A COMPLIANCE COULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE GETTING ZERO OR 30 OR ZERO AND 15.
SO, UM, I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK TO THE EMPATHY AND WITH THAT IN REGARDS TO, UH, MUSICIANS AND COMMENTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK AGAIN, ON, ON FEEDBACK, I KNOW, UM, THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MIXED FEEDBACK AND WHATNOT.
I, I THINK LET'S JUST BE OPEN TO GETTING FEEDBACK FROM, UM, ANY SECTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN, UM, UM, PAT IS, UH, PRESENTING A, A PICTURE FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A SUBSET OF THE COMMUNITY, I'M SURE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE HEARING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING REACHED OUT TO, UH, BY FOLKS AS WELL.
UM, LET'S ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WITH THE KIND OF INITIAL, UM, KIND OF A BIT OF A TOUGH REACTION THAT WE HAD, ESPECIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THOSE WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE POSITIVE STORIES DIDN'T COME OUT AS WELL BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS OVERWHELMING FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY GOT THE GRANTS TO COME AND CLAIM THAT THEY DID, OR THEY WERE HAPPY ABOUT IT.
SO YOU DIDN'T SEE MUCH A LOT OF THAT.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S, BUT I THINK HE, JUST HEARING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT.
WHICHEVER FORM IT, IT, IT COMES IN.
AND I THINK, SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS VALUABLE.
AND I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THE COMMISSIONERS TO, UH, SHARE SIMILAR INFORMATION AS TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, WHAT YOU ARE GATHERING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, SAME AS WHAT WE HEARD FROM HAM, UH, CEO LAST TIME, AND, UH, WHEN THEY WERE HERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, QUESTION AROUND THE INSURANCE BEING OF SOME CONCERN, RIGHT? SO, UH, SOME EDGE CASES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED OUT ON, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE.
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS? I DID, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD, THANK YOU.
UH, YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH, PAT.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO PLACE THESE COMMENTS IN SORT SOME SORT OF CONTEXT.
WHICH I THINK, UM, I'M HOPING YOU'LL GET FROM THE SURVEY THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT OUT.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS IN THE SURVEY, LIKE, I, I WOULD ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS TO THESE COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, LIKE, UM, MISUNDERSTANDING THE, THE A DA COMPONENT OF IT.
UM, I WOULD ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION OF WERE THEY ABLE TO ATTEND ANY OF THE OFFICE HOURS? WERE THEY ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY HOW THIS, UH, PORTION OF THE APPLICATION COULD APPLY TO THEM AS A MUSICIAN? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THERE ARE A TON OF APPLICATIONS AND THERE ARE A TON OF REALLY AMAZING PEOPLE APPLYING FOR THIS FUND, AND YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW, LIKE, HOW TO NARROW IT DOWN IN SOME WAY.
AND SO GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY WHO MAYBE HAVE GONE, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOVE AND BEYOND AND THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN I MAKE MY SHOWS MORE ACCESSIBLE? HOW CAN I DO SOMETHING EXTRA? NOT, NOT ABOUT A DA COMPLIANCY OF THE VENUE NECESSARILY.
I GET THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE SPACE, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO I HAVE A, CAN I HAVE AN A SL INTERPRETER OR CAN I, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME, SOME FRIENDS, AND I PUT ON A SHOW THAT, THAT IT WAS MY FRIEND'S IDEA, BUT I WAS HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT WHERE IT WAS A, IT WAS A LIVE RADIO PLAY, BLINDFOLD RADIO PLAY.
SO WE TOOK THE TIME TO INVITE THE, UH, STUDENTS FROM THE TEXAS SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND TO COME AND, AND, AND, AND ENJOY IT BECAUSE IT WAS AN AUDIO ONLY PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW? AND SO THERE'S LIKE THING, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO BE CREATIVE, AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU NEED TO TALK THROUGH THIS WITH SOMEONE.
AND I'M SURE THAT KEN AND ERICA AND, AND SHELBY AND WHOEVER IN THE OFFICE WAS, YOU KNOW, RUNNING OFFICE HOURS AND HELPING GRANT APPLICANTS, UH, TO TALK THROUGH THESE THINGS.
MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE HELPED THEM TO UNDERSTAND THESE QUESTIONS MORE.
SO I, I AGREE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE BEING VERY CLEAR, UM, THAT, THAT QUESTION, UM, THAT PEOPLE WHO
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ARE LISTENING TO THESE MEETINGS AND, AND ARE, ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS, THAT THEY KNOW THAT, THAT THERE'S MORE NUANCE TO IT, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.SO, LONG STORY SHORT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, OR I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IN YOUR SURVEY YOU INCLUDE MAYBE SOME, UH, FOLLOW UP.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAD THESE PROBLEMS DURING THE APPLICATION, DID YOU, UH, WERE YOU ABLE TO ATTEND THESE OFFICE VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS? WERE YOU ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF? WERE YOU ABLE TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN A TIMELY FASHION? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY OVERWHELMING PROCESS.
IT'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU ALSO, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO BE OPEN AND BE AVAILABLE TO HELP PEOPLE.
AND SO YOU ALSO HAVE TO KNOW LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND I NEED TO TAKE THE STEPS TO HELP MYSELF FIGURE THIS OUT.
I NEED TO TAKE EXTRA STEPS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.
I NEED TO READ ALL OF THE DETAILS VERY CAREFULLY, AND IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM, ASK QUESTIONS.
AND IT'S LIKE, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE RESOURCES, AND THEN YOU ARE UPSET, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU MISUNDERSTOOD, THEN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GIVE THOSE, THAT FEEDBACK AS MUCH WEIGHT AS SOMEONE WHO MAYBE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, GOT, WENT TO THE OFFICE HOURS, TOOK ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER HELP THEY COULD POSSIBLY GET, AND STILL HAD A HARD TIME WITH IT.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO, THIS IS A, THIS IS NOT LIKE AN EVERYBODY GETS A TROPHY KIND OF SITUATION.
IT CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE UNFEELING BECAUSE I, I, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO GET A TROLL IN THIS CASE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS FUND LIKE A LIFE CHANGING THING FOR PEOPLE.
UM, AND IF IT'S JUST DISPERSED TO EVERY SINGLE APPLICANT, IT'S, IT'S LIKE GETTING A, A LITTLE TINY PAYCHECK FROM A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IS IT REALLY GONNA MAKE? SO I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX NOW, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO ADD.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PRICE.
WA WAS IT POSSIBLE TO RECEIVE A GRANT IF YOU A, DID NOT LIVE IN THE CITY AS COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND SAID, OR IF YOU WERE A MUSICIAN AND DID NOT PLAY A GIG? ONE OF THE COMMENTS, SO IF I MAY, YEAH, I CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT.
UH, I THINK, UH, IT'S THE MSAS, UM, AS LONG AS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED WITHIN THE APPLICATION, I WOULD THINK, UH, THAT, THAT MATCHED THE CRITERIA OF, UH, THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA THAT IT COVERS, THEN THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, AS THE, THE, THE, THE HONEST INFORMATION AND, UH, BE PART OF THE GRANT PROCESS.
SO, SO SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, MISSTATE OR, OR MISTYPE, UM, THAT INFORMATION TO BE A PART OF, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.
AND THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, ABOUT A GIG, YES, BECAUSE THERE WERE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR, UH, BEING, UH, FOR BEING ELIGIBLE TO APPLY TO THE GRANTS.
AND THERE WERE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT CRITERIA YOU NEEDED TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SINGLES OR VIDEOS OR, YOU KNOW, HAD, HAD TO HAVE LIKE TWO YEARS OF HISTORY SHOWING, UH, PERFORMANCES.
SO IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THINGS.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR A LIVE MUSIC FUND GRANT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SAID JUST NOW THAT YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO SHOWCASE OF PERFORMANCES.
SO THAT MEANS YOU DID PLAY A GIG.
YOU DID HAVE TO, IT'S ONE OF THE CRITERIA.
THERE WERE OTHER, IT, IT WAS AN OR CRITERIA.
YOU EITHER HAD THIS OR THIS OR THAT.
SO IT WAS NOT NECESSARY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PLAYED LOCAL CAKES BECAUSE, UM, JUST TO REITERATE, THE, THE FUN CAN BE USED FOR PERFORMANCES, FOR RECORDINGS, FOR VIDEOS, A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.
UH, SO THAT YOU HAD TO PERFORM LIVE IN THE CITY AND SHOW SOME HISTORY, THERE WAS NOT, UH, NECESSARY.
YOU COULD HAVE, AS A MUSICIAN, SEVERAL RELEASES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RELEASES AND YOU WOULD STILL QUALIFY.
I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU DIFFERENTLY ON THAT.
I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING ON THAT.
IF, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, COMMISSIONER GOULD'S, UH, QUESTION.
UM, UH, THE APPLICATION, OR, OR RATHER, THE SURVEY HAS BEEN, UH, LIVE FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS NOW.
UM, A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST ASKED IS, IS IN THAT, IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THE DOCUMENT THERE AND OPEN IT UP AND SCROLL THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU, YOU JUST ASKED, UH, REFLECTED THE ONE ABOUT A DA IS NOT IN THERE.
UH, SO LET ME ASK YOU GUYS A QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY BIG
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SAMPLE SIZE OF FOLKS WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SURVEY, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT US TO GO BACK AND ADD SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, I'M OPEN TO IT.UH, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ONCE YOU REVIEW, UH, THE SURVEY THAT'S ALREADY UP AND RUNNING.
COMMISSIONER CARVAL, I, I, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OF THESE COMMENTS THAT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME, AND IF, IF I COULD READ IT REAL QUICK SO WE CAN GO BACK TO IT COLLECTIVELY.
UM, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
IT SAYS WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET OUR MONEY FROM LAST YEAR'S GRANT.
SO MANY HOOPS YOU HAVE TO TRY, YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
LAST WE HEARD WE HAD TO REWORD SOMETHING OR OTHER.
I THINK THIS SHOWS THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMEBODY OVERWHELMED WITH THE PROCESS AND SOME PEOPLE AREN'T GOOD AT TAKING TESTS.
SOME PEOPLE PLAY MUSIC BETTER THAN THEY DO OTHER THINGS, LIKE MYSELF INCLUDED.
RIGHT? SO, SO A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS, IF WE COULD JUST DIRECT THEM TO THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND HELP THESE PEOPLE THROUGH THESE HOOPS, LIKE, I THINK IF YOU JUST SENT THEM, UH, MR. GREG GONZALES'S EMAIL, WHO CAN HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THIS PRESSURE AND ANSWER A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE HE DOES ARTIST DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE PROGRAMS. MM-HMM,
AND I THINK GREG'S AWARE, I'VE, I ALREADY HAVE SENT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HIS WAY, RIGHT? BUT, UM, MAYBE THERE'S A, A MORE OF A SPECIFIC STREAMLINED KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, CONDUIT TO, TO GET THOSE COMMENTS OVER TO THE FOLKS WHO CAN'T ANSWER, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE I'M, I'M CERTAINLY NOT GONNA PROFESS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE EXPERT ON ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ANSWERED IN AN ACCURATE WAY.
UM, AND I THINK, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS FEEDBACK POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME EDUCATION TO BE DONE.
SO JUST WHATEVER, UH, ROLE THAT WE CAN PLAY IN HELPING, UH, YOU KNOW, FACILITATE SOME OF THAT, THAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND MUSICIANS IS, IS REALLY THE ONLY ROLE I THINK WE WE NEED TO SERVE HERE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK, AGAIN, WITH FEEDBACK, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, IT'S, IT'S JUST GETTING AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE, YOU KNOW, UH, CAN AND BE OPEN TO IT.
AND THEN SEEING WHAT THE RECURRING THEMES ARE AND, UH, IF THERE IS A WAY TO ADDRESS THEM, OR IS IF THERE IS MAYBE, UH, IF NOT THERE IS A, UH, THE REASON WHY IT IS THERE AND JUST JUST REITERATE WHY A PARTICULAR, UH, CLAUSE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, CRITERIA IS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, SO IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT GOING AND CHANGING EVERYTHING THAT WE HEAR ABOUT, BUT, BUT JUST GETTING SOME, UH, NUANCED INFORMATION AND, UH, UH, MAKING DECISIONS ON HOW BEST TO IMPROVE, UH, THE NEXT ROUND.
UM, I THINK, UM, ONE OF, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PATON, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
OH, I JUST, UH, STAFF DID WANT US TO, UH, CLARIFY THAT LOCKHART IS IN CALDWELL COUNTY, AND THAT'S PART OF THE FIVE COUNTY MSA.
SO IF SOMEONE LIVES IN LOCKHART, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT.
IT WOULDN'T, LIVING, THERE WOULD NOT BE A REASON FOR DENIAL.
SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS WHERE HE WAS JUST PERTURBED ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE MISSING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT EVERYBODY IN LOCKHART TO BE LIKE, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPLY NEXT YEAR.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WAS GREAT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, SHELBY, AND THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTON FOR THAT, UM, CLARIFICATION.
UM, SO, OKAY, SO, UM, I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF, UM, THOUGHTS HERE.
UM, ONE IS I WANTED TO SHARE, UM, THAT, SO AT THE ARTS COMMISSION THE LAST TIME, THERE WERE, UM, UM, QUESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS AROUND MUSICIANS APPLYING, UM, FOR ARTS GRANTS AND BEING, HAVING THIS ABILITY TO APPLY ON BOTH SIDES AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION AND WHETHER THAT WAS FAIR OR NOT.
SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS THAT CAME UP AROUND THAT, UH, AS THE BROADER GRANTS WERE BEING, UM, DISCUSSED.
AND, UM, UH, I, I HAVE BEEN, UM, TASKED WITH CHAIRING THE NEXT WORKING GROUP ON THE ARTS COMMISSION SIDE, UH, TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ARTS GRANTS FROM THRIVE ON, UM, ELEVATE, UH, NEXUS, UH, TO EDD.
UM, AGAIN, DIRECTOR RA, UM, AND OF THE DAY HAS ASKED FOR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO, UH, WHAT'S THE RECOMME, WHAT OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, WHAT SPECIFIC RECOMME CHANGES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN THE GRANTS IN THE NEXT YEAR'S ROLLOUT? SO I WAS THINKING THAT, UM,
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FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION WORKING GROUP, BECAUSE MUSICIANS AND MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS ALSO APPLY CURRENTLY ARE, ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY, UM, THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION, UM, SOME PARTICIPATION FROM, UH, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST POINT I WANTED TO MAKE IS TO ON, ON THAT WORKING GROUP.SO I WOULD LOVE TO, UM, HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED.
UM, AND, UH, I'M LOOKING AT
AND, UH, UH, DO I HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS? UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY REVIEW WITH, UH, UH, YEAH, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE PART OF THAT.
DO YOU NEED ANYTHING? UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
UH, IF I MAY HOLD JUST FOR ONE MORE THING.
UH, SO THE SECOND THING WAS, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CREATE A WORKING GROUP ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AS WELL.
UH, AND IF WE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK SOMEWHERE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SYNERGIES, UH, BETWEEN THESE, UH, CONVERSATIONS ON THE, AS THE ART SIDE IS LOOKING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR UPDATES ON HOW WE ARE DOING THE GRANTS THERE.
AND, AND THEN, UM, HOW, WHAT KIND OF CHANGES DO WE WANT TO SEE IN LMF? SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, IF I MAY MOTION TO, UM, GET A NEW WORKING GROUP STARTED FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AS WE GET FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS A DXM.
UM, WE WILL GET, UH, SOME SURVEY FEEDBACK FROM EDD AS WELL, AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE ARE HEARING IN OUR OWN IDEAS AROUND HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS BETTER.
SO, UM, WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO SECOND CREATING, UH, UH, UH, AN LMF WORKING GROUP? THAT WAS NOT A MOTION, I'M SORRY.
OR, I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T, THAT WAS, THAT WASN'T A SECOND.
UH, CAN I SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE DO THAT? UH, I COULD, COULD I GET A SECOND AND THEN I CAN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
UH, COMMISSIONER CAN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
UH, SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL EDD COMES BACK WITH THEIR, UM, WITH THEIR FILINGS AS WELL? UM, AND A TXM AS WELL, OR? I MEAN, IT, WE NORMALLY, WELL, I GUESS HOW IT WORKED LAST YEAR WAS WE WAITED, I THINK IT WAS FEBRUARY IS WHEN WE STARTED, UH, THE PROCESS.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE WE, WE COULD GET STARTED.
I THINK, UH, WE, THE, THE OUTCOMES FROM THE LAST, UH, ROLLOUT ARE OUT.
WE, WE KNOW, UH, WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE, UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE GOT THE GRANTS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, THE REASON I'M ALSO SUGGESTING THIS IS I FEEL THAT WE CAN GET SOME SYNERGIES BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE TWO WORKING GROUPS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT SITTING IN THE SAME PLACE.
WE MIGHT HAVE QUORUM AND OTHER ISSUES.
PLUS ALSO, THAT WAS A WORKING GROUP THAT WAS STARTED FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION.
I THINK WE CAN FIND SOME SYNERGIES AND AS WE ARE GETTING, UH, I THINK WE'LL HAVE A PRODUCTIVE MONTH IN NOVEMBER.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE MIGHT JUST HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK IN DECEMBER ANYWAY, SO WE COULD GET STARTED.
UM, AND IF WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK AND RECONVENE IN JANUARY, UH, AS WE GET MORE DATA, BUT JUST TO START GATHERING SOME THOUGHTS AROUND, UH, WHAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS WE MIGHT WANT TO GO BACK TO EDD WITH ON THE LMF.
UM, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN, I FEEL WE ARE READY TO DO A WORKING GROUP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR WE CAN JUST TAKE A VOTE AND GO FROM THE COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? YES.
SO, UH, WHAT ON THE ARC SIDE ARE WE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN, JUST IS IT LIKE, JUST THRIVE NEXT AND ELEVATE, AND HOW MUSICIANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO EITHER PARTAKE IN THAT OR NOT PARTAKE IN THAT, OR IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A MUSICIAN SPECIFIC WORKING GROUP.
IT'S FOR YES, IT'S FOR THE ARTS, ARTS, UH, GROUNDS.
UM, I WILL BE CHAIRING THAT, UH, WORKING GROUP.
SO, AND WITH FOUR OF THE ARTS COMMISSIONERS IN THE MIX.
UM, AND SO WHAT I HAD REQUESTED HERE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SADA AND COMMISSIONER, UH, PATTERSON VOLUNTEERED FOR IS TO MAYBE BE THE VOICE FOR MUSIC ON THAT GROUP.
SO IF WE DO FORM A WORKING GROUP, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS HERE FOR LMF THAT WE CAN DO IS MAYBE HAVE THREE COMMISSIONERS IN THE MIX, UH, THAT WAY ANYTIME.
UH, I THINK, NO, I THINK TWO COMMISSIONERS IN THE MIX, I WOULD THINK.
SO THAT WAY, UM, ANYTIME, UH, WE SHARE SOME INFORMATION, WE WON'T BE BREAKING QUORUM.
IT'S A LITTLE COMPLEX, BUT IT, IT'S WORKABLE UNDER UNDERSTANDABLE.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS.
UH, THE, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A QUALITY
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TO THE ARTS COMMISSION WORKING GROUP REGARDING THEIR GRANT PROCESS.UM, ESPECIALLY ALSO IF I, IF I MAY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY WORK UNDER CAD AND SO THAT'S A WHOLE THING THERE.
AND THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MED, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I I I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE THREADING THAT NEEDLE MUSICIANS AND MUSIC, MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY, THEY DO GET THEIR GRANTEES ON THE OUTSIDE AS WELL.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, ALL I'VE, UH, REQUESTED IS SOME REPRESENTATION FROM HERE SO THAT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VOICE FROM MUSIC AS WELL ON IN THAT, IN THAT MIX.
THERE WILL BE OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT WORKING GROUP.
WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING WAS PARALLELLY, LET'S GET STARTED WITH THE WORKING GROUP FOR, UH, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TO JUST FILTER THE INFORMATION THAT WE ARE GETTING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND JUST, JUST NARROW START NARROWING THINGS DOWN TO WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BROAD SHARING OF IDEAS.
IT'S A BROAD SHARING OF FEEDBACK.
WHAT IS IT, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS THAT EVENTUALLY THAT ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED BY US FOR LIVE MUSIC FUN.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WRAPPED UP, UH, IN ONE MONTH.
UH, WE COULD KEEP IT OPEN FOR TWO, THREE MONTHS, BUT DEFINITELY IN TIME FOR EDD TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, UH, AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR NEXT YEAR'S FUNDS.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN GET A TIMELINE AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEND ON THIS WORKING GROUP SO THAT WE CAN GET INFORMATION OUT ON TIME TO MAKE ANY CHANGES NEXT YEAR.
MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS, FOUR DIFFERENT GRANTS, AND, UH, A WHOLE LOT OF PROCESS AND RIGOR ROLL THAT HAS TO KIND OF ALL WORK ITSELF OUT, UM, BY THE TIME THAT WE COME OUT OF THAT WORKING GROUP.
'CAUSE IF THE TWO WORKING GROUPS ARE CONCURRENT, THEN THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE DECIDING ON A BUNCH OF THINGS TOGETHER.
SO, LET ME LET JUST SEEMS LIKE, GO AHEAD.
THE LIVE MUSIC, FUN WORKING GROUP, I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE START HERE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN ANY WAY PARTICIPATING DIRECTLY IN, IN THE ARTS, AND THEY'RE NOT PARTICIPATING THERE DIRECTLY FOR, FOR NEXUS OR ELEVATE OR THRIVE.
I JUST SAID THAT THROUGH, THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE TWO RUNNING IN PARALLEL.
AND, UH, I'M DEFINITELY A COMMON FACTOR BETWEEN THE TWO WHO MIGHT JUST BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE SOME IDEAS AND SYNERGIES.
BUT THIS LMF GROUP IS GOING TO PURELY FOCUS ON LMF WHILE WORKING CONCURRENTLY WITH ARCS.
I'M NOT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF COMMISSIONER CASADA AND COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, UH, WANT TO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS GROUP AS WELL, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THIS, THIS WORKING GROUP IS, WE ARE AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION.
THIS WORKING GROUP IS ONLY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
MAY I, MAY I JUST MAYBE CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU, YOU BASICALLY, YOU BROUGHT UP TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY WERE SO CLOSELY NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THEY MIGHT'VE GOTTEN INTERTWINED.
YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE START A WORKING GROUP FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND NOW, AND MAYBE THAT'S CONTINGENT UPON IT'S NOVEMBER.
WE'VE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY TAKING UP A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND DELVING INTO ISSUES.
AND WE, DECEMBER PERHAPS COULD BE AWASH WITH THE HOLIDAYS.
BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND START COLLECTING INFORMATION.
NEXT PARAGRAPH IS THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO SIT OR BE A PART OF A WORKING GROUP WITH THIS OTHER YES.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT THEIR PROCESSES ARE AND REPRESENT MUSICIANS, PERHAPS JUST, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT, MY IDEA ON THE ARTS SIDE, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THAT BECAUSE I REALIZE I MIGHT, IT MIGHT GET A LITTLE CONFUSING, IS, IS WE ARE GOING TO GET COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ARTS GROUP.
SO, UM, I JUST, UH, ASKED IF ANYBODY FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO BE PRESENT THERE.
AND, AND I THINK WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS, SO WE CAN WORK WITH THAT.
UH, THERE WILL BE, UH, THERE WILL BE FOLKS FROM OTHER AREAS IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
THERE IS NO, UM, OTHER, LIKE, DIRECT LINK PER SE.
THIS ELEMENT, THIS, THE FIRST ONE THAT COMMISSIONER CASADA MENTIONED IS PURELY
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FORMING, UM, A LIVE MUSIC FUND WORKING GROUP AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.UH, WELL, I THINK THAT'S A, A GREAT IDEA.
SO THE ARTS COMMISSION HAS ALREADY TAKEN A VOTE AND FORMED A WORKING GROUP.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER CASA, AND I'VE VOLUNTEERED TO REPRESENT MUSICIAN PERSPECTIVE ON THAT OR, UM, BUT SO FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, YEAH, I THINK JUST FROM LISTENING TO PAT'S PRESENTATION, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE OTHER DATA IN, LIKE, WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ALREADY, LIKE THROUGH THE GRANT AMOUNTS WORK.
UM, IS THE, OUR MUSICIANS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF TRAINING, WHAT ELSE IS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY? LIKE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MUSEUM OF HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT, YOU KNOW, WAS GETTING PROPS IN THIS.
AND SO IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UM, SO I DO THINK THAT SPECIFIC TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A, A FEW MEETINGS WE COULD MAKE A, A WORKING GROUP.
I'M NOT VOLUNTEERING MYSELF FOR THE SECOND WORKING GROUP, BUT, UM, I DO THINK THAT THE COMMISSION, I MEAN, IT'S ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE THAT WE MAY CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL GO ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS THAT WE CONTINUE TO GUIDE THAT PROCESS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ANNUAL FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP THAT MEETS, YOU KNOW, A FEW TIMES TO REVIEW THAT YEAR'S DATA.
COMMISSIONER CA UH, UH, I, I, YES, I, I AGREE WITH THE ANNUAL FORM FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP.
I, I JUST, I, I, I, I WANNA REMIND, UM, EVERYONE, UM, THAT THE LAST TWO TIMES THAT WE HAVE DONE A WORKING GROUP WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION, THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAVE BASICALLY, THEY SAID THANKS, AND THEN THEY KIND OF JUST DID WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, YOU KNOW, MINUS A FEW THINGS.
THEY MADE A FEW CHANGES HERE AND THERE, BUT BASICALLY ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT WE NORMALLY DO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE FINDINGS AND EVERYTHING, THEY, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL DUE RESPECT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THEIR, THE WORK AND THEIR HARD WORK AND THEIR STAFF.
BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, IT, IT, IT, AND, AND I KNOW THAT I'M BEING VERY BOLD IN SAYING THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF JUST TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THEY COMBINE IT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEN THEY KIND OF DO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
SO MY ARGUMENT IS THAT IF WE START OUR WORKING GROUP TOO SOON, WITHOUT HAVING THE DATA FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO ACTUALLY INFER OUR PROCESS, THAT WE WILL BE PREMATURELY STARTING SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS ON.
AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL GET THOSE FACTS CURRENTLY AS THINGS ROLL IN, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU GUYS HOW CONTENTIOUS THESE, THESE, THESE DEBATES AND, AND, AND, AND THESE ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE WORKING GROUPS.
UM, I WOULD RATHER HAVE ALL OF THE FACTS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS THE WORKING GROUP GOES.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S GONNA TAKE A COUPLE, AT LEAST A MONTH FOR THEM TO DO THAT.
I THINK ONCE THEY PRESENT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, I FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE COMFORTABLE TO START A WORKING GROUP DIRECTLY AFTER THAT.
I THINK STARTING IT NOW IS A LITTLE BIT TOO SOON.
UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, UH, CARVAL.
I JUST WANNA CHIME IN FOR JUST ONE SECOND.
I, MY OPINION IS THAT IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER TOO EARLY TO START WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GOING ON.
AND IF THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, PASSION OR, OR MOVEMENT OR ENERGY OR KINETIC ENERGY BEHIND IT TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD.
AND IF THERE'S A WORKING GROUP THAT WANTS TO DO IT, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE REMEMBER THAT WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE DON'T, WE CAN'T ENACT UPON RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE IN A POSITION WHERE WE WERE PUT IN THIS PLACE BECAUSE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE HEARD.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF WHERE WE ARE HERE.
BUT, UM, THAT'S, WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS.
EVEN THOUGH THAT CAN BE REALLY FRUSTRATING TO WORK ON SOMETHING AND YOU THINK, HERE ARE THE FACTS, YOU HAVE TO ACT UPON IT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S JUST KIND OF PART OF THE HEARTACHE OF BEING IN THE MUSIC COMMISSION, AND I THINK WE NEED TO JUST KIND OF GET USED TO IT.
UM, BUT I, I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT GROUP SHOULD PUT FORTH RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL THERE'S BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL THE, ALL THE SURVEY DATA THAT'S COME IN.
UM, BUT I, I THINK IT'S FINE IF WE VOTE ON THE FORMATION OF THE GROUP TONIGHT.
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YOU KNOW, JUST KNOWING THAT IT KIND OF TAKES THINGS A LITTLE WHILE TO GET ROLLING AND, AND SYNC UP EVERYONE'S SCHEDULES AND SO ON.AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT, THAT THE LENGTH OF THE GROUP IS LONG ENOUGH SO THAT THERE'S TIME TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE SURVEY DATA THAT COMES ON.
SO I THINK MAYBE IT'S NOT A MATTER OF STARTING THE GROUP TOO SOON, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE GROUP DOESN'T, UH, WRAP UP THEIR WORK TOO SOON.
UH, SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, TAKE A VOTE? UM, THERE'S A MOTION FROM ME A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR, BILL 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, UH, IN FAVOR.
UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD AND COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
ARE THEY VOTING OKAY? I I VOTING? NO, ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THAT'SS OUTSTANDING.
SO WE HAVE SEVEN IN, UH, OKAY.
AND HOW ABOUT YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLD? I'D JUST LIKE TO ABSTAIN.
SO WE WANNA ABSTAIN, UH, ONE, NO.
UM, DO I HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS? COMMISSIONER CARVAL? WHO? COMMISSIONER LAR.
UM, SO I CAN, UH, CAN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THIS? UM, PER THE WORKING GROUP THAT WE HAD ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND IS REFERRING TO, UM, EARLIER, IS THAT ONE LIKE DONE? YEAH.
AND SO THIS IS A WHOLE NEW ONE? YEAH.
THAT'S STARTING FRESH FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND SO, BUT ALL THE, THE DIALOGUE THAT WAS TAKING PLACE IN THE PREVIOUS WORKING GROUP IS PUBLIC INFORMATION, OR NO, NO.
WHERE DOES THAT LIVE? I THINK THE OUTCOMES THAT WE PROVIDED AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION, THAT'S PUBLIC HONOR.
JUST TO CLARIFY, A WORKING GROUP IS, IS LESS FORMAL THAN, SAY, LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE OR A COMMITTEE THAT CAN BE FORMED BY COMMISSION.
SO THE, ALL THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT GOES ON, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUBLIC.
I MEAN, IT CAN BE, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE RECORDED.
BUT IT IS GREAT IF YOU TAKE MINUTES, BUT NONE OF THAT'S REQUIRED.
BUT, BUT THEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS DOCUMENT THAT THEN YOU WOULD BRING TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND PRESENT THAT, THAT THAT'S THE PART THAT'S PUBLIC.
IT DOES SEEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO START EARLIER BASED ON VOTING OF DEVELOPING A SOLID BODY OF WORK WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, MEMORIALIZING ALL THE INFORMATION FROM TODAY, ALL THE ANECDOTAL, YOU KNOW, PIECES AND THIS AND THAT.
AND, UM, JUST START ARCHIVING THE INFORMATION AT THE GET GO AND CONTINUING IT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THE SURVEY.
SURVEY, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
YEAH, I'VE USUALLY RECOMMENDED SOME TERM LIMITED WORKING GROUPS, BUT, UH, WELL BY THAT, AT THIS, AT THIS POINT OF TIME, ALL I WOULD NOT MEAN BY THAT IS, UH, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TIMELINE THAT EDD NEEDS FOR US TO GET BACK TO THEM TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACT ON ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, AND THEN JUST BASED THE TIMELINE ON THAT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE, UM, BECAUSE HEARD, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND ON, UH, THAT A, A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS MAY OR MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, AMOUNT TO, UH, TANGIBLE RESULTS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THAT.
UH, THE FACT THAT THE U UH, AVAILABLE USES OR ALLOWABLE USES OF THE GRANT BEING EXPANDED TO, YOU KNOW, VIDEOS AND PERFORMANCES BEYOND, OR VIDEOS AND, AND RECORDINGS AND BEYOND JUST LIVE PERFORMANCES, THAT WAS A DIRECT RESULT FROM THE WORKING GROUP THAT WE DID, UH, PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THE FIRST ROUND OF THE, UH, OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
AND, UM, ALSO THE FACT THAT WE THE FIRST YEAR, UH, DID MUSICIANS ONLY OUR MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PRO PROMOTERS ONLY, AND THEN ADDED THE VENUES IN THE SECOND YEAR.
UM, ALL OF THAT WAS A RESULT OF THE WORK THAT WE DID IN DIALOGUE WITH OTHER MUSICIANS FROM THE COMMUNITY, WITH OTHER VENUE OWNERS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND REPRESENTATIVES AND THE WORKING GROUP.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THAT THOSE WORKING GROUPS, UM, DISCUSSIONS DO
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RESULT IN TANGIBLE, UM, TANGIBLE RESULTS.UM, SO JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY OF THAT, 'CAUSE IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO, SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GOLD FOR, UH, POINTING THAT OUT.
AND I THINK THOSE WERE, UH, I MEAN VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTFUL, UH, UH, ITEMS. I MEAN, IT PRETTY MUCH SET THE PATH FOR HOW THESE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ROLLED OUT, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO, UM, DEFINITELY, UM, ALSO WITH EXTENSION TO TWO YEARS, THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE TAKEN.
UH, TO ECHO COMMISSIONER GOULD'S, UM, FEEDBACK ON THAT.
I DEF AS A NEW COMMISSIONER, I DEFINITELY WAS LIKE, WHERE'S THE OVERALL TIMELINE ON SOME OF THESE DECISIONS? I THINK THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE PUBLIC INFORMATION OF HOW DID WE MAKE ALL THESE DECISIONS? WHERE DID WE COME TO, YOU KNOW, GET US WHERE WE WERE? AND IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME, WHICH BRAVO, A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS WERE ALREADY MADE THAT YOU ALL HAD BEEN DOING THIS WORK FOR A LONG TIME.
SO I THINK NOW SOME OF THIS IS JUST REACTING TO THE FIRST GO ROUND OF THE GRANTS AND WHERE COULD WE IMPROVE AND, AND LOOKING, FOR INSTANCE, ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF THE GRANTS, THIS OR THAT.
BUT THAT INFORMATION, THE TIMELINE INFORMATION IS ON THE WEBSITE.
SO IT'S, IT'S ALL THERE IN STONE ISH.
SO CAN WE LET PAT SIT DOWN?
PAT, WE ARE LIKE, ARE WE MAKING YOU STAND HERE FOR ALL THIS WHILE MY APOLOGIES.
MY BACK HURTS, SO I DON'T MIND.
THAT'S JUST, THANK YOU SO MUCH, PAT.
UM, IF I MAY, UH, ONE FINAL THING.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ALSO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS FEEDBACK LAST YEAR, UH, I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT YOU GUYS ADOPTED, UH, ALMOST EVERY ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, AND A LOT OF THOSE WERE SPECIFIC AROUND THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND HOW TO IMPROVE THAT.
UM, SO I DO WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK TODAY.
UM, AND IF, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS ME HERE AND KNOWS THAT I'M A PRETTY AGREEABLE PERSON, SO I KIND OF HATE THIS PART OF THE JOB
BUT, UH, I DO BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARY.
I DO BELIEVE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, AND I HOPE THAT IT'S WELCOME.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AFTER SIX, ALMOST SIX YEARS OF DOING THIS WORK, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS JUST CONSIDER US PART OF THE TEAM.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY HERE TO HELP, UH, EDD AND TO JUST HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR MUSICIANS, UH, HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE, UH, POSSIBLE.
SO WE ARE SIMPLY HERE TO HELP.
AND, UH, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO DO SO.
UH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, YOU HAD SOME COMMENT EARLIER.
UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO AND COMMISSIONER ALAR VOLUNTEERING.
UM, AND IF ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED, UH, UH, YOU COULD, UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW, OR, OR PLEASE JUST DROP AN EMAIL, UH, TO ME.
AND, UH, UH, WE WILL START THIS AT COMMUNITY
OKAY, SO I THINK, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BE ON THE WORKING GROUP AS WELL.
UM, AND, UH, WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
ANYTHING ELSE? LAST COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALRIGHT, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN, PAT FOR, UH, COMING IN TODAY TO THE COMMISSION.
[5. Update on live musical performances for Music Commission meetings by Vice Chair Patterson.]
TOPIC ON THE DISCUSSION ITEMS IS UPDATE ON LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES FOR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS BY VICE CHAIR PATTERSON, COMMISSIONER PATERSON.YEAH, SO NOT TOO MUCH TO REPORT.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO THE LOGISTICALLY TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC AT THE MEETING.
SO WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH STAFF ON THAT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPE TO HAVE A BETTER UPDATE NEXT TIME.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
[6. Discussion on city support for community / grass-roots organizations such as Sunday Sessions ATX.]
SIX, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, DISCUSSION ON CITY SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS SUNDAY SESSIONS, A PX.UM, WE HAVE, UH, A CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
WE HAVE LARRY AMARO, UH, SPEAKING ON THE TOPIC, AND THEN WE CAN, UH, UH, OPEN THIS UP FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION.
UH, I WAS BORN AND REARED HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, LIFELONG CITIZEN.
UM, AND, UH, I WAS IN, UH, THE BAND MUSIC AND EAST AUSTIN SCHOOLS, UH, AND WENT ON TO COLLEGE AND THE BAND THERE.
SO MUSIC, UH, IS A BIG INTEREST OF MINE.
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AND, UM, I DO, UM, KEEP UP WITH WHAT THE MUSIC MISSION DOES.UH, SO, UM, I'M COMING HERE TODAY JUST, UH, FOR, IN SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
NOW, NOW I SHOULD SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW THE COMMUNITY-BASED, UH, ORGANIZATION, SUNDAY SESSIONS A TX.
SO I'M, I'M, UH, DOING SOMETHING FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT I DO NOT KNOW OF, BUT THE RESOLUTION ITSELF IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AND, AND, UH, IT'S VERY POSITIVE.
UM, I DO JUST WANT TO, UH, POINT OUT A COUPLE OF WORDS THAT, UH, KIND OF JUMPED UP AT ME.
UH, MY BACKGROUND IS IN SOCIAL SERVICES PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATION, UH, AND THE SOCIAL WORK SERVICES COMMUNITY WORK HAS.
AND, UM, SO WHENEVER I SEE SOME RESOLUTIONS AND POLICIES, UH, TAKE A LOOK, THOSE, UH, WORDS THAT ARE ON THERE, UM, ON THAT FIRST, WHEREAS IT HAS A CITY OF AUSTIN CULTURAL IDENTITY.
AND SO I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ONE CULTURE, NOT, UH, ONE IDENTITY THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED AND SAID, HEY, LET'S MAKE THIS OUR CULTURE.
WE ALL HEARD HEAR ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY, UH, IDENTIFIED OR DEFIANT AS SUCH.
SO MY THINKING IS THAT THAT SHOULD SAY A AUSTIN'S UH, MULTICULTURAL IDENTITY.
UM, AND THEN ONE MORE THING AT THE BOTTOM ON, ON THAT, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A ANOTHER WORD THAT KIND OF JUMPS OUT AT ME, AND THAT'S THE, UH, WHERE IT SAYS, UM, AND SIMILAR COMMUNITY OR ORGANIZATIONS TO ENSURE CONTINUED ACCESS IS PRE-OP TO THE PUBLIC EVENTS THAT PROMOTE CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
CULTURAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, CULTURAL INCLUSIVITY.
UH, AND TO ME, UH, THAT SHOULD BE MULTICULTURAL EQUITY BECAUSE, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE KIND OF LOST SIGHT OF WHEN A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE SAY, UH, EQUITY AND, AND, UH, DIVERSITY AND, AND INCLUSIVENESS, BUT EQUITY, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE FIRST WORD IN THE, THOSE THREE WORDS, IT'S REALLY LEFT OUT.
AND WE DON'T, UH, TRY TO, TO, UH, MAKE AN EMPHASIS ON THAT.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE LEAVE OUT PEOPLE.
AND, AND SO IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF AUSTIN AND, AND LOOK AT ALL THOSE NUMBERS THAT, THAT THE CITY PLANNING HAS, UH, THERE'S A PICTURE, YOU'VE SEEN THOSE PIE CHARTS AND THINGS SHOULD ALSO, SHOULD ALWAYS, UH, BE A MIRROR IMAGE OF THAT PIE CHART.
UH, AND LOOKING AT THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND ARE THOSE DIFFERENT GROUPS, UH, BEING, DO WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF ASSURANCE THAT THOSE GROUPS ARE, ARE, HAVE SOME INEQUITY IN TERMS OF REPRESENTATION, IN TERMS OF RESOURCES AND MONIES ALLOCATED AND ALL THAT.
SO, SO AGAIN, SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION, BUT THOSE WORDS, CULTURAL SHOULD BE MULTICULTURAL AND CULTURAL INCLUSIVITY SHOULD BE MULTICULTURAL EQUITY.
UM, UH, DID YOU, DID THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MR. MARROW,
NOW, NOW IT'S EQUITY, DIVERSITY, AND INCLUSION.
WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE IN THE WORD, BECAUSE I THINK THEN INEQUALITY, UH, MEAN LIKE EVERYBODY EQUITY, IS IT INDIVIDUALS? HOW, HOW, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT WORK?
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT OUT.
UH, LET'S JUST GET THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF WHAT IT IS.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARMAL, UH, I JUST LOOKED IT UP.
YEAH, SO THEY'RE PRETTY WELL DEFINED.
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EVERYONE THE SAME, REGARDLESS OF THEIR NEEDS OR CIRCUMSTANCES.EQUALITY ASSUMES THAT EVERYONE STARTS AT THE SAME PLACE AND WILL FACE THE SAME CHALLENGES.
EQUITY IS PROVIDING THE RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT EACH PERSON NEEDS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
EQUITY RECOGNIZES THAT PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES AND ALLOCATES RESOURCES TO HELP ACHIEVE AN EQUAL OUTCOME.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CARVALHO, UM, I THINK THE, THE EQUAL OUTCOMES IS, IS, IS A BIG DIFFERENTIATOR BETWEEN, UH, I THINK THE TWO DEFINITIONS, UH, OF THOSE WORDS.
SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING, UM, A SPEAKER THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY, UM, RELATED TO, OR WORKING WITH SUNDAY SESSIONS HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY'RE REALLY, IT HELPS SHOW THAT THERE'S A BROAD NEED.
AND, UM, SO I, I, UH, I APPRECIATE THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED, AND WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE TONIGHT, BUT THIS WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED BY I THINK ANOTHER ONE OR TWO OTHER COMMISSIONS.
UM, I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCESS OF USING, UH, OUR PARK AND RECREATION SPACES FOR COMMUNITY GROUPS CAN BE STREAMLINED SOMEWHAT.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE LAST MEETING.
UM, SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR, I THINK THE WAY, THE WAY TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ON THIS IS TO HAVE, UM, A STAFF MEMBER FROM PARKS AND REC OR FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THAT HANDLES ACE APPLICATIONS, COME IN, HELP US UNDERSTAND ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR OUR GROUP.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT PARTS OF THAT MAYBE COULD BE MADE EASIER FOR SMALL COMMUNITY GROUPS.
AND I ALSO HAVE A CALL, UM, TOMORROW WITH SOMEONE FROM NATASHA HARPER MADISON'S OFFICE THAT THEIR, THEIR OFFICE, UH, HAD A, WAS ORIGINALLY THE, THE OFFICE THAT HAD LED ON THE BLUES, ON THE GREEN RESOLUTION THAT WAS BROADENED TO, UM, TAKEN SMALLER EVENTS AND HOW, HOW THOSE COULD HELP.
SO I, I WOULD, YEAH, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DECIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS COMMISSION TO PUT FORTH A, A BROAD RECOMMENDATION, UH, NOT JUST FOR, UM, SUNDAY SESSIONS, WHICH IS A, THESE EVENTS SOUND AMAZING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, HOW THEIR ORGANIZER HAS LED ON THIS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR OUR GROUP TO, UM, ULTIMATELY CREATE A, A BROADER RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT SHOULD PROBABLY HAPPEN IN TANDEM WITH THE PARKS BOARD AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, I JUST, UH, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND MUSIC, UH, WHAT'S AVAILABLE HERE, UM, SUNDAY SESSIONS, UM, I, I, I PERSONALLY, I I JUST ABSOLUTELY LOVE, UH, WHAT MS. MADISON IS DOING.
UM, UH, IN THIS CONTEXT, IT IS, UM, PERHAPS WE CAN SEE SUNDAY SESSIONS AS AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER, UH, APPLICANT, RIGHT? AND THE AVENUES THAT ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THROUGH THE CITY, UM, IN OUR CONTEXT AGAIN.
UM, AND, AND, UH, THOSE APPLICATIONS, UH, WILL BE OUT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT IS DEFINITELY AN AVENUE THAT SUNDAY SESSIONS LIKE EVERY OTHER INDEPENDENT, INDEPENDENT PROMOTER CAN GO THROUGH.
UM, AND, AND SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT TURNS OUT.
UM, I THINK WE, WE ALSO PUT THIS BACK UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, UH, UH, BECAUSE, UH, IT, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST THING TO DO TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ONE PARTICULAR INDEPENDENT PROMOTER.
UH, THIS HAS TO BE SEEN IN A BROADER CONTEXT ON WHAT ARE THE, ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, CAN WE HAVE A BROADER DISCUSSION AROUND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS? AND IF THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS OUTSIDE, UM, LIKE, UM, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON SAID BEYOND THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHICH IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN OUR CONTEXT TO, UH, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACE PERMITTING FEES OR ANYTHING ELSE, UH, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH UNDERSTANDING OF THAT WHOLE, UH, PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? RIGHT? SO, AND, AND WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR ONE INDEPENDENT PROMOTER VERSUS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO ELSE IS OUT THERE NEEDING THE SAME, UH, WHO HAS NOT COME TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION? RIGHT? SO WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AT A BROADER CONTEXT.
WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN OUR CONTEXT FOR AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER IS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, ESSENTIALLY AT THIS POINT OF TIME, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? YES.
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ARE, ARE, ARE WE THEN, UM, I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LOOK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING SUNDAY SESSIONS, UM, BE, YOU KNOW, BE AWARDED THEIR PERMITTING OR, OR, OR, OR RECOMMENDING, UM, THEIR PERMITTING.BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO, WITH SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, WE, YOU KNOW, DO THIS KIND OF THING ALL THE TIME.
SO WE WILL BASICALLY KIND OF LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY PAY FOR ALL KINDS OF STUFF, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAIVING PERMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THEM TO BE, UM, AT CITY PARKS.
THE RESOLUTION, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I PUT FORTH, UM, I FORGET WHEN IT WAS AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, UH, IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION AGAINST, UM, SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST ACTUALLY USING CITY PARKS AND LANCES AND, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY ACTUALLY PAY MUSICIANS FAIRLY.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WITH HERE, WE NEED TO KIND OF LIKE LOOK AT SOME MORE DETAILED THINGS AND FIGURE SOME THINGS OUT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE JUDGMENT BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE ORGANIZATION LIKE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST OR US DOING THE EXACT SAME THING WITH BOO AND THE GREEN, VERSUS I'M AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER THAT OF COLOR THAT JUST KIND OF WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO USE, UH, THESE PARKS AND PUBLIC LANDS TO PUT ON HER EVENT, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, IN THESE SPACES.
YEAH, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT, BUT I THINK THAT THE POINT THAT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON WAS MAKING, UM, IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT, THAT THERE ARE OTHER LIKE LITTLE GUYS OUT THERE WHO ARE NOT SOUTH BY WHO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE AUSTIN'S WONDERFUL PUBLIC SPACES.
BUT IT IS, IT'S KIND OF AN ONEROUS PROCESS AND KIND OF PROHIBITIVE FOR SMALLER INDEPENDENT DIY EVENTS.
AND I CAN SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE, UM, DURING THE PANDEMIC, UH, WHEN ONE OF THE, I THINK IT WAS THE DELTA VARIANT OR THE OMICRON VARIANT CAME UP AND WE HAD, WE HAD TO POSTPONE OUR RESUMING OUR WEEKLY RESIDENCY AGAIN.
AND I JUST, I WAS, MY SOUL WAS CRUSHED AND I NEEDED AN OUTLET.
AND SO I SAID, LET'S PUT ON SHOWS OUTDOORS, LET'S FIND SPACES WHERE WE CAN DO IT.
AND IT WAS SO HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT, UM, UH, IN A, IN THE PROPER WAY AND USE THE PROPER CHANNELS AND GET PERMISSION AND EVERYTHING.
ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS SHOW AT UP AT SOME PARKS WITH ACOUSTIC INSTRUMENTS AND MAKE MUSIC AND INVITE PEOPLE TO COME OUT, WORD OF MOUTH.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DECIDED TO, UM, ASK FOR FORGIVENESS RATHER THAN PERMISSION.
AND WE JUST DID POPUP PICNICS.
WE JUST PICKED SPACES WE NEVER GOT IN TROUBLE,
AND WE WERE, WERE ABLE TO PUT ON ALL THESE WONDERFUL LITTLE POP-UP ACOUSTIC SHOWS, UM, WHEN IN THE PANDEMIC WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE WERE VACCINATED, WE COULD GET TOGETHER, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA BE INSIDE.
AND I, I'VE, I'VE SINCE WANTED TO DO MORE OF THAT, BUT IT'S NOW GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT GONNA SHOW UP AND LIKE, GET KICKED OUT AFTER DOING ALL THIS WORK TO PUT THESE SHOWS TOGETHER.
SO, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS THE AUSTIN I GREW UP IN IS THE DIY GRASSROOTS SPIRIT.
LITTLE PEOPLE THAT ARE, I'M NOT AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER.
I MEAN, I PROBABLY TECHNICALLY AM, BUT I'M, I'M A MUSICIAN AND I LIKE TO PUT ON SHOWS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD LOVE FOR MORE OF US OUT HERE TO BE ABLE TO, FOR THAT TO BE EASY, FOR US TO GET AN EASY STAMP OF APPROVAL FROM THE CITY FOR SMALL EVENTS THAT DON'T REQUIRE ANY SOUND, DON'T REQUIRE ANY PORTA POTS, DON'T REQUIRE ANYTHING, JUST PERMISSION.
UM, AND TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO THIS.
SO I THINK MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION MORE BROAD SO THAT, UH, OTHER PEOPLE CAN BENEFIT FROM IT, UM, WOULD BE AMAZING.
AND I REALLY THANK THE, THE PEOPLE PUTTING ON SUNDAY SESSIONS FOR KICK-STARTING THE ISSUE.
AND I THINK I, I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO NOT BE AN EITHER OR, LIKE, I DON'T WANT US TO NOT SUPPORT THEM, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE A CATALYST FOR IT TO SUPPORT THE BROADER COMMUNITY OF, OF, YOU KNOW, SMALLER INDEPENDENT PEOPLE THAT JUST WANNA MAKE BEAUTY AND CONNECTION IN THE WORLD.
I MEAN, AND COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
SO FOR THE POINTS, BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT IS THE IDEA, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS MUCH BROADER COMPARED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PART, RIGHT? SO, BUT THE IDEA WAS TO DEFINITELY HAVE A MORE, UH, UM, DETAILED CONVERSATION AROUND THIS AND ALSO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
LIKE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS TO THEN RECOMMEND WHAT NEEDS TO BE WEIGHED, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT UNDERSTANDING.
'CAUSE UH, COMMISSIONER ALKA, UM, I SO IN FAVOR OF SUNDAY SESSIONS HAPPENING AND MORE OF THESE GRASSROOTS,
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UM, EVENTS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT AUSTIN, THAT'S WHY I MOVED HERE 16 YEARS AGO, 15 YEARS AGO, AND FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CITY.I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO SPECIAL.
UM, I AM ONE OF THOSE LITTLE GUYS THAT APPLIES FOR ACE PERMITS ABOUT TWO, THREE TIMES A MONTH.
AND I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS AND IT IS KIND OF ARDUOUS.
UM, AND, AND BORIS, BUT THERE WAS A MEETING ON AUGUST 28TH THIS YEAR FOR, UM, ACE HOLDERS OR, UH, STAKEHOLDERS FOR ACE EVENT OR ACE PERMITS, AND IT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THAT WIDELY PUBLICIZED, SO I THINK PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS HAPPENING.
BUT IF YOU GOOGLE ACE PERMIT, UH, STAKEHOLDER MEETING, THE FIRST LINK THERE IS THE STAKEHOLDER MEETING AGENDA AND, UH, LIKE A REALLY DETAILED VERSION OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.
AND A LOT OF RESOURCES ON HOW THESE ACE PERMITS, UM, NEED TO BE APPLIED FOR AND WHAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.
AND A LOT OF CONTACTS THAT, UM, YOU CAN, UM, USE FOR YOUR, ON YOUR ROLODEX FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR HOW TO APPLY FOR ACE PERMITS AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
NOT TO SAY, UM, THAT IT'S A, IT'S A FIX OR THAT IT HELPS THIS RECOMMENDATION.
I AM TOTALLY FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTION, UM, AND IF YOU JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THE ACE PROCESS IS, UH, THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD RESOURCE.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO, COULD YOU, UH, SHARE THAT LINK WITH SHELBY AND SO THAT SHE CAN SHARE IT WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK ON THAT.
AND, AND THEN I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO SINCE YOU ARE REALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS, DO YOU FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, I KNOW I'M GONNA SAY MILDLY FAMILIAR REAL QUICK SINCE YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR THAN THE REST OF US WITH THE PROCESS.
UM, I, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF WHAT IS IN PLACE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE, IT, IT'S SAFETY RELATED, IT'S FOR PROTECTION THAT PEOPLE OF THE PARK, OF ALL THE, SO THERE'S A REASON THAT, THAT EACH OF THE REQUIREMENTS AROUND THE ACE APPLICATION ARE THERE.
BUT, UM, LIKE IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE ARE PARTS OF IT THAT COULD BE STREAMLINED FOR SMALLER EVENTS? UH, YES.
I THINK ONE OF THE, ESPECIALLY FOR REOCCURRING EVENTS, UM, ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THE FIRST TIME, AND, AND I'VE ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS UP TO ACE PEOPLE, UM, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON IT, WHICH IS SUPER COOL RIGHT NOW, ONCE YOU APPLY FOR ONE ACE PERMIT AND YOU HAVE THE SAME EVENT, UM, YOU HAVE TO DO THE ENTIRE APPLICATION PROCESS AGAIN.
AND THERE IS NO TEMPLATE THAT YOU CAN JUST KIND OF CLICK AND SAY, HEY, WHY WOULD I DO THIS AGAIN? IT'S LITERALLY THE SAME, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S THE SAME EVENT, SAME SPACE.
THE, THE SITE PLAN IS THE SAME, UM, BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON IT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD.
AND THEY JUST, UH, BUILT A NEW WEBSITE.
THE, THE OLD ONE WAS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT TO USE.
SO THE, THE NEW ONE IS PRETTY USER-FRIENDLY.
UM, I THINK THAT WHERE THE FEES ARE AND WHERE PAYMENT PROCESSING IS, IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED CURRENTLY BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF TO ME ALL OVER THE PLACE.
'CAUSE I'M STILL GETTING USED TO IT.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I APPLIED TO LIKE TWO OR THREE OF THESE EVERY MONTH OR SO.
UM, I THINK IT'S A, HONESTLY, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PROCESS AND IT'S A REALLY COOL THING THAT THE CITY HAS.
AND I WELCOME IT WHEN I USE IT BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL SAFER.
IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I'M, I'M PROVIDING AN EXPERIENCE TO THESE GUESTS THAT THEY WON'T, UM, REGRET GOING TO BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A SAFE EVENT.
IT HAS ENOUGH BATHROOMS, IT, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA POLLUTE OUR WATERWAYS 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONS AND NONE OF IT REALLY SEEMS OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WHILE PUTTING EVENTS.
I THINK MY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT EVEN A COMPLAINT, IT'S JUST SOMETIMES IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE SUNDAY SESSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THESE GRASSROOTS, UH, EVENTS NEED HELP WITH IS HOW DO WE PAY FOR THAT? BECAUSE THEY, IT'S A, IT'S A PROGRAM THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE.
I MEAN, IT KEEPS PEOPLE SAFE, IT KEEPS EVENTS, UH, MOVING IN A, IN A SAFE DIRECTION.
IT KEEPS NEIGHBORHOODS FROM BEING BOTHERED IN A WAY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SOUND IMPACT, THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT PLAN, THERE'S WATER AND UM, AND WASTE.
SO IT'S MOSTLY ENVIRONMENTAL AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT IT IS THERE, BUT THERE IS A, A COST PROHIBITIVE COMPONENT TO IT.
AND WHAT, HOW MUCH IS IT? IT REALLY DEPENDS.
SO, UM, THERE, I THINK IT'S TIERED
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ONE THROUGH FOUR AND IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU, YOU HAVE.SO IT'S, AND THE COST GOES UP, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES YOU'RE EXPECTING, AND AS THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES GOES UP, THE MORE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE.
SO THERE'S MORE BATHROOMS YOU'RE, YOU NEED TO HAVE PER PERSON.
THERE'S A, IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY 50 PEOPLE YOU NEED ONE BATHROOM, I THINK IS THE, UH, THE CALCULATION.
THEY HAVE ALL THESE CALCULATIONS THAT THEY MAKE YOU KIND OF GO THROUGH AND HOW MUCH WATER YOU CAN PROVIDE PER PERSON PER LIKE EVERY FIVE MINUTES.
SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S ALL REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF TO HAVE.
UM, AND THEN ONCE YOU REACH A 2,500 PERSON EVENT OR MORE, MAYBE 3000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE'S A FIRE WATCH AND POLICE ESCORT YOU NEED TO HAVE AND HOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALSO ASKING ABOUT HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA IMPACT YOUR, YOU KNOW, EGRESS, INGRESS AND, UH, THE ROADS AROUND YOUR EVENT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM I THINK 500 BUCKS TO $3,000 OR $2,000.
UM, I THINK, YEAH, UH, IF, IF WE KEEP WANT TO KEEP THIS, UM, TOPIC OPEN, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, DEFINITELY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CAN TAKE THIS ON AND, AND, AND JUST, JUST JUST INFORM US MORE ON, UM, OKAY, THIS IS ONE, ONE IDEA WHAT OTHER WAYS OUTSIDE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHICH IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR CONTEXT AT THIS POINT FOR, UH, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS AND MUSICIANS, CAN, UM, CAN WE RECOMMEND THAT THAT SEEMS VIABLE? UH, WE UNDERSTAND IF WE MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, WHAT, UH, AT LEAST AT SOME LEVEL, WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT WOULD BE.
UM, AND, UH, AND, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
UH, SO THE, THE ONE, MAYBE TWO THINGS.
ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION IS ASKING FOR IS THAT THOSE FEES JUST BE WAIVED, RIGHT? SO THE, UH, WHAT, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT SUNDAY SESSIONS IS ASKING FOR.
THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR IS NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT THE PROCESS, NOT ANY OF THAT STUFF, WHATEVER.
I THINK THEY'RE WILLING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE ACE PERMITTING AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE FEES TO BE WAIVED.
SO ONE THING, TWO, IF WE, I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE KIND OF WANT TO PUT A WIDER LENS ON THIS AND LOOK AT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE LITTLE GUY, YOU KNOW, AS, AS COMMISSIONER GOULD WAS SAYING, AND, AND, UM, GETTING THEM EASIER ACCESS TO PARKS AND THE EVENTS AND THINGS AND, AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF WHERE, I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY KIND OF ASKING, I MEAN, IT FEELS LIKE TO ME THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD TO KIND OF CHANGE UP THE PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS INVOLVING ACE PERMITTING ITSELF, WHICH FEELS LIKE WE JUST IN UP IN BUREAUCRATIC IN, IN, IN, UM, IN A BUREAUCRATIC PLACE THAT WE DON'T WANNA BE IN.
UM, SO, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT THERE WAS THAT PARKING THING THAT WE WERE ALSO TRYING TO DO THAT WAS SPEARHEADING, AND THAT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE BECAUSE OF BUREAUCRACY.
SO LIKE, IT'S, IT'S, UM, UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, THIS RECOMMENDATION SEEMS VERY SIMPLE IN TERMS OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND THAT WE WEIGH THE FEES, GET WITH PARKS, SEE WHAT WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT, AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD TACKLE A BIGGER ISSUE LATER.
UM, OR DO WE WANNA LIKE PUT A WIRE LENS ON IT AND GO DOWN THAT ROAD? UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, UH, WHERE, UM, WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS, AND I HEARD AT LEAST TO AN EXTENT A SIMILAR SENTIMENT, UH, FROM SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL IS, IS, IS, UM, IS END OF THE DAY, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS, UM, WHO, UH, MAY BE ALREADY WANTING TO DO OR MAYBE ALREADY DOING, UH, SIMILAR WORK.
UM, HOW DO WE DIFFERENTIATE? BECAUSE OUR CHANNEL RIGHT NOW TO SUPPORT INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS IS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT'S IN PLACE, UH, THE NEXT ROUND OF THAT THAT PROVIDES FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN 2025, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE REESTABLISH A CRITERIA, UH, FOR ONE VERSUS THE OTHER IS, IS, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH.
SO I, I THINK IF THERE IS JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE CAN MAKE A SLIGHTLY BROADER RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND PART OF WHAT, WHAT THIS RECOMMENDATION HAS SOMETHING A LITTLE BROADER, UM, I THINK THAT TO ME MAKES MORE SENSE,
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UH, BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE, UH, BEING EQUAL OR EQUITABLE OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SAY IT, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD, WE, WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT THIS WITH A WIDER LENS.UH, SO IT'S MORE OF A FRAMEWORK AS OPPOSED TO DEALING WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL SITUATION AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST MY ANALYTICAL BRAIN WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION.
I, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE PERSONALLY WHAT, UH, SUNDAY SESSIONS IS DOING, BUT I THINK, UH, I THINK WE HAVE TO, AS A MUSICAL COMMISSION LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE
UM, I WONDER, AND, AND THIS CAN MAYBE BE A QUESTION FOR SOME OF THE PARKS PEOPLE.
UM, I WONDER IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO KIND OF FOLD THIS INTO, OR MOLD THIS INTO A RECOMMENDATION FOR THEM TO EXPLORE, AND THIS MIGHT BE GETTING TOO FAR INTO THE BUREAU BUREAUCRATIC TERRITORY, BUT, UM, A PROCESS WHERE, WHERE ORGANIZATIONS CAN APPLY TO HAVE THESE FEES WAIVED SO THAT THERE'S AN AVENUE OTHER THAN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
'CAUSE THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC THING, AND THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, LIVE MUSIC FUND IS, THIS IS THIS WONDERFUL UMBRELLA THING, BUT THIS IS LIKE, WE'RE DOING THESE EVENTS, WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS VERY SPECIFIC THING, AND I ALSO HEAR YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, CHAIR CHARLA WHEN ABOUT THE FACT THAT LIKE, IT, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AND IT WOULD BE AMAZING FOR, FOR US TO FIND A WAY FOR WHATEVER THIS RE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPLY TO OTHER PEOPLE.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOOK INTO IF, IF WE CAN INSTITUTE SOME SORT OF, OR THEY CAN INSTITUTE SOME SORT OF APPLICATION PROCESS TO HAVE THESE FEES WAIVED.
MAYBE IT'S LIKE A, I DON'T KNOW, THE EQUIVALENT OF A, OF A SCHOLARSHIP KIND OF SITUATION.
YEAH, IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
WELL, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD CAN, UH, I THINK WE ALSO SUGGESTED, AND THIS WAS JUST A SUGGESTION TO, UM, UH, SUNDAY SESSIONS TO ALSO TAKE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS ITEM TO THE, THE PARKS BOARD AS WELL.
UH, AND BECAUSE THEY MIGHT, UH, HAVE A LITTLE MORE NUANCE INFORMATION AROUND, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT SYSTEM WORKS.
UM, OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? UH, WELL, ONE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD ABOUT THIS IS EVEN MAYBE IF FEES AREN'T WAIVED, BUT IF THEY WERE MUCH LOWER, YOU KNOW, I, BECAUSE I KNOW PARK, YOU KNOW, PARKS HAS BUDGETARY ISSUES ALSO, BUT, YOU KNOW, KNOW IF THERE WERE MORE EVENTS PAYING SMALLER FEES, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT COULD STILL HELP BRING IN MONEY FOR THE PARK SYSTEM AND, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR, I MEAN, HAVING EVENTS DOES, I'M SURE INCUR ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AND SO ON.
BUT YEAH, IF THERE COULD JUST BE, I THINK THAT MAYBE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OF APPLYING FOR A REDUCED FEE, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAME, UH, WAY THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD WAS SUGGESTING.
SO THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S LOTS OF POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS HERE.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY WE, WE, WE KEEP DISCUSSING IT AND, UM, I, WE SHOULD PROBABLY REACH OUT TO SOME ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
UM, SO LIKE I SAID, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK WITH, UH, SOMEONE FROM, UH, NATASHA HARPER MADISON'S OFFICE, UM, AND I CAN REACH OUT TO THE, UH, THE CHAIR OF THE PARK SPORT AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT PARKS FOR THE ACE SYSTEM LIKE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOMEBODY YEAH.
YEAH, I THINK FOR A SPECIFIC, UH, UM, A SPECIFIC ASK FOR, FOR SENTENCE SESSION SHOULD, UH, REACHING OUT TO A COUNCIL MEMBER IS, IS PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD IDEA.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, BRIAN BLOCK WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD CONTACT AT ACE.
OH, PIPELINE, THE CITY, HE KIND OF RUNS THAT PROGRAM IN TANDEM WITH A, WITH A PARTNER THERE.
I'LL REACH OUT TO BRIAN AS WELL.
SO I, I'LL TAKE THAT ON AND JUST TRY TO HELP, UH, PROVIDE SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN GIVE US SOME MORE INFORMATION AND POSSIBLY SPEAK AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN ARRIVE AT A GOOD SOLUTION THAT BENEFITS SUNDAY SESSIONS AND THEN OTHER SIMILAR ORGANIZATIONS.
AND I THINK, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, A GREAT NEXT STEP TO JUST DIG A LITTLE DEEPER OF WHAT, WHAT AVENUES ARE AVAILABLE AND WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITHIN COUNCIL OR COUNCIL MEMBERS' OFFICES, THERE MIGHT BE SOME SUPPORT AS WELL.
UM, AND, AND, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER GUGA, I ALSO REALLY LIKE YOUR IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT IS AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT'S A BROADER FRAMEWORK, UH, THAT I WAS ALLUDING TO AS WELL, TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE THEN NOW THAT IS OPEN TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
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THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL HAVE A RULE OF MINUTES, LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, BRIEFING BY MCC CARSON, UH, 5 24 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND BRIEFING BY RICO CHALY.UM, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SKIP OUT ON, UH, UM, A DXM PRESENTATION NEXT ROUND, AND WE'LL TABLE IT FOR JANUARY, RIGHT? UH, AND THEN UPDATE ON LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES FOR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING BY VICE CHAIR PATTERSON.
AND, UH, THEN SHOULD GET, UH, SKIP SIX FOR A FUTURE DATE.
SKIP FIVE OH, SKIP FIVE, OKAY.
UPDATE ON LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES.
WE'RE TAKING THAT OFF, UM, DISCUSSION ON CITY SUPPORT, COMMUNITY GRASSROOTS LEAVE THIS YEAR FOR THE NEXT ROUND.
YEAH, SO THAT'S, WHY DON'T WE TWEAK THE LANGUAGE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? SO IT'S A DISCUSSION ON CITY SUPPORT FOR THE, OH, LET ME THINK.
YEAH, JUST GET RID OF SOME, I GUESS IT'S, I WANTED TO TALK, MAYBE MAKE IT MORE SPECIFIC TO PARKS, BUT I THINK THAT'S FINE.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT'S, IT'S BROAD ENOUGH FOR NOW WHERE YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD FOCUS ON THAT, UH, STILL.
UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA, YOU WANTED TO ADD AN AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT ROUND UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS? UM, YES.
UH, I AM ON THE BOARD OF THE AUSTIN FILM SOCIETY AND, UM, A COLLEAGUE OF MINE THERE, JULIA RA, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, INTRODUCED ME TO A PROJECT THAT SHE WAS WORKING ON THAT WAS CALLED THE QUILT, WHICH WAS A FILM, UM, THAT SHE EDITED AND IT ENDED UP BEING, UM, UM, LET'S SEE, A, SOME, AN EPISODIC PIECE THAT WAS FOCUSED ON MUSIC.
SO IT WAS A PROJECT OF THE MUSICAL BRIDGES AROUND THE WORLD, A NONPROFIT PERFORMING ARTS ORGANIZATION IN SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND IT KIND OF SEEMED LIKE A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT, UM, PROJECT THAT TOUCHED UPON MANY ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL AGES, UM, ACCESS TO MUSIC.
UM, SO LONG STORY SHORT, THERE IS A, UM, GENTLEMAN NAMED SUE HEIL RASU, UM, WHO SERVES ON THE SAN ANTONIO ARTS COMMISSION, WHICH THAT INCLUDES THE PERFORMING ARTS FILM IN MUSIC IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND HE'D LIKE TO COME SPEAK, UM, TO OUR ORGANIZATION, OUR COMMISSION, UH, IN THE DECEMBER MEETING IN DISCUSS THIS, UM, THE QUILT, UM, PROJECT AND, UM, HIS ORGANIZATION, THE MUSICAL BRIDGES OF AROUND THE WORLD.
UM, HE WAS THE, UH, APPOINTEE, THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEE TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMISSION.
HE SERVES ON A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS AND, UM, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO CONNECT SAN ANTONIO'S, UM, COMMISSION AND OUR OWN COMMISSION AND LEARN MORE ABOUT, UM, THIS PROJECT, UH, THE MUSICAL BRIDGES AROUND THE WORLD, AND SPECIFICALLY THIS FILM, UM, CALLED THE QUILT, WHICH HAS, UH, DEVELOPED SOME, UH, CURRICULUM, UM, THAT IS BEEN SHOWN TO OVER 12,000 STUDENTS.
SO, SO, UH, IS THERE, WOULD YOU, UH, MIND JUST FORMULATING A AGENDA ITEM, UM, PRESENTATION, THE AGENDA, A PRESENTATION BY, UH, SUHAIL RASU WHO IS, UH, WITH THE MUSICAL BRIDGES AROUND THE WORLD, NONPROFIT BASED IN SAN ANTONIO, ON, ON SOUNDS.
WHAT, UH, ON
THE PROJECT NAME IS, UH, UH, MU THE, IT IS A PROJECT, THE QUILT IS A PROJECT OF THE MUSICAL BRIDGES AROUND THE WORLD.
UM, IS THAT HELPFUL? IS THAT GOOD? OKAY, GREAT.
WE HAVE A, A COMPLETE AGENDA ITEM THERE.
UM, ANYTHING, UH, UH, AND YES, UH, LET'S JUST, UH, ADD, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUN WORKING GROUP.
UH, WE AT LEAST, BUT LET'S JUST TO TAKE A CHECKPOINT, UM, IN DECEMBER, UM, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS. AGAIN, NO ACTIONS THERE.
UM, AND, UH, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? ALRIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE
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ALL OF THE ABOVE? YEAH.MOTION TO APPROVE THAT SLATE OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PRICE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT, UH, MOTION IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
OH, NOBODY WANTS TO GO HOME TODAY,
DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GOUL? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? FROM COMMISSIONER DAVILA.
THANKS FOR YOUR, UH, TIME, ENERGY, AND PATIENCE.
UH, THANK YOU STAFF AND THANKS FOR EVERYBODY FROM, UH, THE COMMUNITY WHO CAME IN TODAY.