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THERE WAS, UM, SOMEBODY'S NAME THERE.
OH, I COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT WRONG.
[CALL TO ORDER]
ALL RIGHT.IT'S, UH, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH, 6:45 PM UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION
[MUSICAL PERFORMANCE]
TO ORDER.UH, WE'LL START WITH THE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE, OTIS THE DESTROYER.
I WOULD LOVE FOR COMMISSIONER BLEVINS TO MAYBE JUST, UH, PROVIDE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
THEY'RE A GREAT ENERGETIC, STRAIGHT UP ROCK BAND.
THANK YOU, SHELBY AGAIN FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING ALL OF THIS FOR US.
UM, ANY COMMENTS, UH, FROM ANYBODY BEFORE WE MOVE ON? THAT WAS IN JAM.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
UM, MOVING ON.LET'S, UH, LOOK AT APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
UH, IF EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES FROM, UH, THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON OCTOBER 7TH, IF SOMEBODY COULD PLEASE, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.
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MOTION TO APPROVE.WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, VICE CHAIR PATTERSON.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
ALL IN FAVOR? I'M GONNA ABSTAIN BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE LAST MEETING.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE ALSO ABSTAINING OF EIGHT VOTES IN FAVOR.
[2. Live Music Fund collections briefing by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]
PASSES.UH, THEN, UH, MOVING ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS.
WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, BRIEFING BY KIM MC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SO I'VE GOT, UH, THE PRESENTATION UP HERE FOR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE, ON THE SCREEN, THERE'S A SLIGHT, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NUMBER UP THERE FOR THE AMENDED BUDGET THAN WHAT'S ON THE PRINTOUT.
WE MADE THE CORRECTION HERE, UM, ON THE SCREEN.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, ALSO ADD THIS CORRECTED VERSION OF THIS REPORT TO THE, UH, TO THE, UM, UH, UH, TO THE WEBSITE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN, CAN HAVE THAT.
BUT, UM, ANYWAY, SO THE, FOR THE, UM, THE REPORT THROUGH SEPTEMBER, SO THE COLLECTIONS FOR SEPTEMBER, 2024, AND THIS WILL BE THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR 4,573, WHICH BROUGHT US TO AN END OF THE YEAR DATE OR AN, AND, AND, I'M SORRY, YEAR TO DATE, UH, TOTAL OF 4,455,096 FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SORRY.
UM, SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT, COMPARED TO THE BUDGET, AND I'M JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24, AMENDED BUDGET OF 5 MILLION, 5 75 MM-HMM.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE DIDN'T COLLECT AS MUCH AS NO.
SO, UM, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE 5 MILLION 5 75 NUMBER IS WRONG.
OH, I'VE MADE A CORRECTION ON THE SCREEN.
SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE SCREEN, SORRY, ON THE FY 24 AMENDED BUDGET NUMBER, IT'S 4 MILLION 1 15, 1 70.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW, THE OTHER NUMBER CAME FROM SOMEWHERE.
I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
AND THEN, UM, YOU CAN COMPARE THAT TO THE ENCUMBRANCES AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN COMPARISON THERE.
SO THEN IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL.
YEAH, NO, I, I SAW THAT NUMBER AND I STARTED TALKING TO EVERYBODY IN THE STAFF, LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT CAN'T BE WHAT, WHY IS THAT NUMBER THERE? SO WE FIGURED OUT THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT NUMBER.
AND, UH, MADE THE CORRECTION, BUT BEFORE THE MEETING.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF BUDGET? RIGHT.
SO, UM, YEAH, NOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO THIS NUMBER, SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MAYBE IT COULD BE BETTER, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS BASICALLY THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, FOR THE END OF THE YEAR COLLECTION DATE, THIS IS TOTAL COLLECTIONS FOR THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2024.
UM, SO IT IS HIGHER THAN THE BUDGET, SO THAT MONEY GRANTED, YOU KNOW, AWARDS HAVE BEEN MADE.
SO ANYTHING OVER THE BUDGET I BELIEVE WOULD JUST GO TO THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT YEAR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? UH, DIRECTOR RA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? SORRY, YOU, YOU CAME UP, BUT SHE, SHE SAID EVERYTHING CORRECT.
[3. FY24 Austin Live Music Fund briefing by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music and Entertainment Division.]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS F 5 24 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND BRIEFING BY ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE THERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.
I'M A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER.
AND, UH, SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE 2024 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION BECAUSE THINGS ARE GOING QUITE SMOOTHLY, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, GETTING THE AGREEMENTS DONE AND THE PAYMENTS OUT.
UH, THE LONG CENTER HASN'T RUN INTO ANY ISSUES, AND SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE PAYMENTS OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UM, AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION YET ON A SURVEY THAT WILL BE GOING OUT TO, UM, ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AND AWARDEES.
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THE COM UM, UH, MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS TEAM IS WORKING ON THAT.AND SO WE HOPE TO BRING YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT VERY SOON, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IKA COMMISSIONERS, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE TOPIC? OKAY.
I, I, UH, COMMISSIONER CA I'M JUST QUICKLY TAKING A LOOK AT THE, UM, ANECDOTAL, UM, INFO HERE IN THE PACKET, AND I SEE, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, OH, OKAY.
UM, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER CAZADA, WE'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM ON THAT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
[4. Feedback on 2024 Austin Live Music Fund by Pat Buchta, Chief Executive Officer, Austin Texas Musicians (ATXM).]
ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, FEEDBACK ON 2024 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND BY PAT TER, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS.AND, UH, LET ME START JUST BY SAYING, UH, WHAT A PLEASURE IT WAS ON FRIDAY NIGHT TO SHARE THE STAGE WITH SOME OF THEM.
UH, MY WONDERFUL MUSIC COMMISSIONERS HERE, UH, THE DION DF FEST ON FRIDAY, UH, WAS THE MOST DIVERSE BILL I THINK I'VE EVER SEEN IN AUSTIN.
AND THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
UM, IT'S NOT OFTEN I GET TO TAKE OFF MY MUSIC ADVOCACY HAT AND JUST BE A MUSICIAN, SO THAT WAS REALLY NICE FOR ME.
UH, BUT YES, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, UM, I KNOW WE'RE ALL, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UH, I THINK WHEN WE WERE IN THE LIBRARY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, UH, WE VERY BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BUZZ AND A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
UH, I THINK, UH, AS ALWAYS, SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS THING IN 2019, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIAN'S ROLE IS SIMPLY TO, UM, GATHER THE VOICES OF THOSE.
UH, WE SERVE, WE HAVE A AUDIENCE OF ABOUT 6,000, UH, CENTRAL TEXAS MUSICIANS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB HERE REALLY IS TO LISTEN TO THEM AND TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK TO EVERYONE HERE.
UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I DO WANNA REITERATE WHAT I SAID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, DESPITE ANY CRITICISMS OUT THERE, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY THAT DOES NOT EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES.
THIS IS THE FIRST EVER SUSTAINABLE PUBLIC FUNDING FOR MUSIC IN THE US, UH, SOURCED BY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS HAS WORKED SO HARD, SO HARD TO GET TO THIS POINT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR AND, UH, GOING INTO THE THIRD YEAR, AND ALL WE CAN DO IS IMPROVE, UH, THIS PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE GONNA SEE IS THAT WE'VE MADE LEAPS AND BOUNDS FROM LAST YEAR, UH, BUT WE MAY, UH, STILL HAVE SOME AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
SO I'M JUST GONNA SHARE, UH, THE FIRST OF A TWO PART PRESENTATION.
TONIGHT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IS JUST LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR WITH THE ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK, THE COMMENTS THAT WE GATHERED FROM OUR PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUP, UH, WHAT I WILL PRESENT IN THE SECOND HALF WILL BE THE SURVEY DATA, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE DO HAVE A SURVEY, UH, THAT WE LAUNCHED, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AND NOT TO STEP ON ANY TOES OF THE SURVEY THAT'S GOING OUT FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT, UH, HERE, BUT I THINK WE DID SOME DEEP LISTENING WITHIN OUR, UH, MUSICIAN COMMUNITY TO, UM, COME UP WITH QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANTED, UH, TO ANSWER.
AND SO, UM, WE ARE GONNA KEEP THAT SURVEY OPEN.
I THINK IF, IF THE NEXT MEETING IS ON THE, UH, DECEMBER 2ND, I WILL NOT BE IN TOWN.
SO WE MAY WAIT TILL JANUARY AND KEEP THAT SURVEY OPEN FOR JUST ANOTHER, UH, LITTLE WHILE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A REALLY BIG SAMPLE SIZE.
BUT, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START TO GET INTO IT.
UH, THIS IS THE 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, FEEDBACK.
UH, AND THIS IS REALLY JUST LIKE WE SAY, ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT FACTS, THESE ARE OPINIONS.
THESE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST PERSPECTIVES THAT WE HEARD A LOT OF THE MUSICIANS, UH, SHARE.
AND THIS IS A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE OF EVERYTHING WE GATHERED.
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LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION CLOSED, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS RECEIVED A WIDE RANGE OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR MEMBERS IN FORMING US OF BOTH SHORTFALLS AND BENEFITS TO THE CURRENT FORMAT.WHAT FOLLOWS IS ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT ILLUSTRATES THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE APPLICATION.
AND WE HOPE THAT THIS DATA SET WILL SERVE TO ASSIST STAFF AND COMMISSION IN INFORMING ROUND THREE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.
THIS INFORMATION WILL BE PRESENTED IN TWO PARTS.
LIKE I SAID, OUR FIRST PRESENTATION WILL OFFER A SNAPSHOT OF JUST SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK FROM THE MUSICIANS WHO APPLIED OUR SECOND PRESENTATION IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY.
UH, WE'LL INTRODUCE DATA FROM OUR DETAILED 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND FEEDBACK SURVEY, AND THERE IS A LINK TO THAT SURVEY AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION.
WE'RE JUST GONNA READ THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.
UH, NUMBER ONE, IT MAKES NO SENSE WHY THE 4.5 MILLION FUND CAN'T SIMPLY BE DIVIDED AND ALLOCATED FOR ALL WORKING MUSICIANS THAT APPLY.
UM, AND AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, I THINK THESE, IT'S JUST GOOD TO MAKE NOTE OF THESE.
THESE ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER, UH, AND MAKE NOTE OF AS WE GO FORWARD.
UH, I FOUND THE WHOLE PROCESS OVERWHELMING IN THE DIRECTIONS.
SOME ARE SAYING IF YOU ARE TOO WORDY IN YOUR APP, YOU GET DENIED.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO BACK UP, YOU GET DENIED AFTER READING SOME OF THESE POSTS OF APPLICANTS THAT WON.
I'M HAPPY FOR THEM, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
BUT I'M SAD FOR MUSICIANS LIKE ME WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD FOR OVER 20 YEARS IN BAM DOOR SLAM.
MAYBE NEXT YEAR WILL BE BETTER.
THERE NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENCY ON WHAT OUR SCORES WERE.
THERE WAS A RUBRIC THEY NEED TO PROVIDE OUR SCORES WITH A BREAKDOWN AS IT RELATES TO THE RUBRIC.
NOT PROVIDING OUR ACTUAL SCORES IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
UH, THIS IS QUICKLY AND EASILY SHARED IF YOU APPLY TO ARTS DIVISION FUNDING.
I KNOW THERE'S A FRIENDLY RIVALRY BETWEEN THE TWO DIVISIONS, BUT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND WOULD MEAN COMMUNITY RELATIONS TO USE SOME CAD PROTOCOL WITH LMF.
IN THE FIRST YEAR, WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THE GROWING PAINS AND STILL APPRECIATE THE FACT THIS EXISTS, BUT NOW IT NEEDS TO BE HELD UP TO OTHER CITY OF AUSTIN GRANT PROTOCOL STANDARDS.
ALL OF THIS TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE STAFF IMMENSELY.
I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE A LOT OF THE FOLKS ON THIS THREAD TO GO DOWN TO CITY HALL AND ATTEND MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS.
UH, SO GOT A RESPONSE EMAIL BACK SAYING OUR APPS WILL BE USED AS A DATA POINT FOR MORE MONEY THE CITY NEEDS FOR ARTISTS.
BUT DIDN'T ANSWER MY INITIAL QUESTION ABOUT LETTING APPLICANTS KNOW WHERE THEY COULD DO BETTER ON THEIR OWN APPS AS MORE MONEY MEANS NOTHING.
IF ARTISTS KEEP GETTING DENIED BECAUSE OF APP ISSUES, THEY SAID WE COULD TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR, YAY, BUT WITH NO ADDITIONAL INFO ON HOW TO IMPROVE ANYTHING.
SO YEAH, SUCK IT UP AND TRY AGAIN, BASICALLY.
UH, LAST YEAR WAS ALSO 5K AND 10 K GRANTS, AND THIS YEAR WAS 15 AND 30 K GRANTS.
SO IF THEY HAD KEPT THEM, THIS KEPT THE SAME AMOUNT AS LAST YEAR, UH, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND, OR THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO FUND MORE PEOPLE, NOT FEWER.
UH, THEY PENALIZE YOU IF YOU GOT THE GRANT LAST YEAR AND MOVING FORWARD, YOU CAN ONLY GET IT EVERY OTHER YEAR IF YOU WIN.
SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR PROFESSIONALS TO PLAN IN ANY SORT OF MEANINGFUL WAY.
UH, THAT COMBINED WITH HAVING THE SAME STIPULATIONS TIED TO THE ELEVATE, THRIVE AND NEXUS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WINNING ONE DISQUALIFIES YOU FROM THE OTHERS.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE TIMING IS ALL SKEWED.
SO IF YOU LOSE THIS ONE, THEN YOU HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO APPLY FOR THE OTHERS OR SPEND WEEKS OF YOUR TIME APPLYING FOR MORE THAN ONE, KNOWING THAT IF YOU GET ONE, YOU DON'T GET THE OTHER.
AND THE DESIRE TO FUND NEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER GOTTEN GRANTS IS IN CONFLICT WITH A DESIRE TO DO LARGE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS, IN MY OPINION.
UH, AT LEAST WITH THE OLD CULTURAL FUNDING, YOU KNEW IF YOU WON, YOU WERE GOOD FOR TWO YEARS AND YOU COULD MAKE SOME MEANINGFUL PLANS.
NOW IT'S JUST RUNNING FROM GRANT TO GRANT, LIKE A CHICKEN WITH OUR HEADS CUT OFF.
I THINK IT'S NOBLE TO BE SUPPORTING NEW FOLKS, BUT IT DOES COME AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO IT FOR A LONG TIME.
UNLESS YOU'RE IN AN INSTITUTIONAL NONPROFIT
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WITH LONG-TERM FUNDING SECURED.AND THOSE ARE FEWER AND FEWER.
IT'S HARD TO BE A MUSICIAN AND A FULL-TIME GRANT WRITER, BUT IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
UH, IT'S BAFFLING TO ME TO READ THROUGH THIS THREAD AND SEE SO MANY AMAZING MUSICIANS WHO DIDN'T GET A GRANT.
I WAS ORDERED, AWARDED A GRANT THIS TIME AROUND.
THE APPLICATION PROCESS WAS A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN LAST YEAR.
YES, SOVIA, YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT, BUT WE'RE THROWING OUR HANDS UP.
UH, BUT THE SELECTION PROCESS DOES LOOK, UH, TO BE A BIT DODGY.
I RECEIVED THE GRANT AFTER MISSING OUT LAST YEAR, I WAS DETERMINED TO IMPROVE MY APPROACH.
I ATTENDED THE MOHA GRANT WRITING WORKSHOP, WHICH WAS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE TOP TAKEAWAY WAS TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.
THEY EMPHASIZE WRITING AS IF THE READER MIGHT NOT HAVE AN ADVANCED READING LEVEL.
AND TO USE TOOLS LIKE CHAT GPT TO JU DOUBLE CHECK GRAMMAR, IT'S ALSO CRUCIAL TO PROPERLY NAME YOUR DOCUMENTS AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS CLEAR AND EASY TO FOLLOW.
WITH OVER 1200 APPLICANTS TO REVIEW, THE REVIEWERS APPRECIATE SIMPLICITY.
I FOCUSED ON GIVING THEM EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEEDED, NOTHING EXTRA.
THE APPROACH MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE, AND IT PAID OFF.
NEXT YEAR ATTEND THE MUSEUM OF HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO PAUSE ON THAT ONE AND, AND SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO DEFINITELY GATHER SOME OF THESE SUCCESS STORIES BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF SOME OF THESE, UH, SUCCESSFUL AWARDEES ARE WILLING, UM, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THEY BROUGHT IT UP.
MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME SORT OF WORKSHOPS, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
SO I APPROACHED IT ONE DAY AT A TIME.
I FOCUSED ON ONE QUESTION, TOOK A BREAK THE NEXT DAY, AND REPEATED THE PROCESS.
I ENDED UP SUBMITTING IT ON THE FINAL DAY.
I REALIZED THAT WE COULD CREATE A, OR I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD CREATE A FACEBOOK GROUP OR ORGANIZE A MEETUP TO SHARE TECHNIQUES ON HOW TO FILL OUT THESE GRANTS PROPERLY.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT WE NOW KNOW WHAT THEY EXPECT FROM BANDS EACH YEAR.
MAKE SURE TO PLAY SHOWS AND GET PHOTO PROOF OF PERFORMING AT A DA COMPLIANT EVENTS OR PROVIDING SERVICES FOR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS.
UH, CONSIDER CREATING FLYERS IN BRAILLE.
GATHER EVIDENCE OF PARTICIPATING IN LATINX SHOWS, HAVE NON-DISCRIMINATION POLICIES, AND DOCUMENT YOUR SUPPORT FOR LOCAL MUSICIANS AND BUSINESSES.
START DOING THESE THINGS NOW SO YOU'LL BE PREPARED FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, WISE WORDS FOR ALL FUTURE APPLICANTS.
UH, THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT APPLIED AND SINCE THEY CHANGED THE FUNDING AMOUNTS TO LARGER SUMS THIS YEAR, LESS PEOPLE PICKED.
THIS JUST MEANS WE ALL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE IN THE FUTURE.
HEART, HEART EMOJI WITH MUSIC NOTES.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ADD.
UH, CONGRATS TO ALL, UH, WHOSE PROJECTS WERE SELECTED.
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL CREATE THIS YEAR.
NO LUCK THIS TIME, BUT APPRECIATE THAT THE OFFER IS EVEN THERE.
WITH THE HIGHER AMOUNTS OF APPLICANTS IN A LARGER PURSE, IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF APPROVAL VERSUS DENIAL WILL BE SMALLER OR GREATER DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT.
UH, READING THE GRANT APPLICATION, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THIS WASN'T GEARED TOWARDS WORKING MUSICIANS, BUT RATHER PROMOTERS, VENUES, AND EVENT COORDINATORS.
QUESTIONS LIKE, I'M PARAPHRASING.
ARE YOU MAKING SURE YOUR VENUES ARE A DA COMPLIANT? UH, I BOOK MY GIGS, I SHOW UP AND I PLAY THE VENUES.
A DA COMPLIANCY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY WORK AS IT PERFORMING MUSICIAN.
UH, THE APPLICATION STRUCK ME AS BEING TOO FOCUSED ON PERSONAL IDENTITY.
IT SHOULDN'T MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE OR WHO YOU SLEEP WITH.
AFTER APPLYING AS A TOURING ACT THAT HAS 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON AUSTIN MUSIC AWARD, NATIONAL RADIO SINGLES, AND AN ESTABLISHED INTERNATIONAL FAN BASE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LIST OF WINNING GRANTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT THEY'RE AWARDING.
THAT ALONE WOULD BE SO CONSTRUCTIVE AND HELPFUL.
A LOT OF NONPROFIT FUNDERS DO THAT.
IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE THE CITY PUTS THE LIST, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT.
UH, WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET OUR MONEY FROM LAST YEAR'S GRANT.
SO MANY HOOPS YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
LAST WE HEARD WE HAD TO REWORD SOMETHING, OR RATHER, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
UH, DENIED BECAUSE I LIVE IN LOCKHART BALONEY.
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I GUESS MY INABILITY TO SHOW PROOF THAT I WAS PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE ALL VENUES AT PLAY WERE A DA COMPLIANT WAS A BIG FACTOR IN BEING DENIED AMONG OTHER FACTORS.I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OR WHEN IT BECAME A PERFORMANCE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO A JOB A CITY INSPECTOR IS SUPPOSED TO DO, OR WHY THE CITY WOULD EXPECT THAT PERFORMERS ARE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON WHAT IS REQUIRED TO BE A DA COMPLIANT.
UH, I KNOW A PERSON THAT HAS NEVER EVEN PLAYED A GIG THAT GOT 10 K LAST YEAR.
UH, I ATTENDED AN ONLINE CLASS AND A MIDDLE AGED PERSON ASKED IF THEY COULD APPLY IF THEY PLAYED IN A BAND BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL.
AND WERE TOLD AN ENTHUSIASTIC YES, THE BAR WAS INDEED VERY LOW, AND THE BAR IS WHAT'S HURTING THE WORKING MUSICIANS THAT NEED SOME HELP, GETTING NEW RECORDINGS, VIDEOS, ET CETERA.
THERE WERE A TON OF PROMOTERS IN THE CLASS ALSO.
IT WAS NOT JUST FOR MUSICIANS.
UH, AND I THINK THIS IS THE FINAL ONE.
I WANTED TO END ON A POSITIVE NOTE.
I DIDN'T GET IT EITHER BELOW THIS PROGRAM.
ANYWAY, I'M GONNA KEEP TRYING.
UH, AND SO THERE IS THE LINK TO THE, UH, MORE DETAILED, UH, DATA SURVEY.
I THINK IF YOU GUYS GO THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE REALLY, UH, CONSTRUCTED THE QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT THE MUSICIANS FELT LIKE THEY WANTED, UH, INFORMATION AROUND AND WANTED TO ANSWER.
AND WE HOPE IT'S, UH, AS COMPREHENSIVE AS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL CAN REACH OUT TO ME, BUT I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT.
I PRESENT THIS EVIDENCE TODAY SIMPLY WITHOUT ANY BIAS.
THIS IS JUST THE EVIDENCE WE GATHERED FROM OUR MUSICIANS IN THE GROUP.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT TO CHEW ON HERE AND A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.
UH, AND AS WE GATHER THE DATA FROM THE SURVEY THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THAT IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AS WELL.
UH, AND I GUESS, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE WORKING GROUP MAY RESUME AROUND THIS TOPIC, BUT WE HOPE THAT THIS INFORMATION, AS ALWAYS, IS INSTRUMENTAL IN GUIDING THAT PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, SHARING, UM, ALL THAT FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THE NEXT, UH, SET OF INFORMATION THAT YOU WILL OFFER US HERE.
UM, AGAIN, UH, ON THE, FROM EDD, UM, WHEN WAS THE SURVEY DATA GONNA BE AVAILABLE? IS THERE, THERE IS A SURVEY THAT GOES OUT, RIGHT? SO I THINK ERICA HAD MENTIONED IT.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, THAT I'M WAITING FOR OUR TEAM WITHIN EDD TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION OF WHEN A SURVEY WILL GO OUT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S GOING OUT ACROSS ALL PROGRAMS, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION OF WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN.
YEAH, I THINK, UM, YEAH, I THINK COLLECTIVELY, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST GRASSROOTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS A FORMAL SURVEY FROM, UH, UH, THE CITY SHOULD YIELD AS PRETTY GOOD, UH, INFORMATION, UH, ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
UH, QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS FROM, UH, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
HEY, PAT, HOW DO YOU, WHAT'S YOU SLEEP BY THE WAY? YOU'RE ALWAYS WORKING.
THIS IS CRAZY, DUDE, MAN, I, AND THANKS FOR LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU DO.
FOR, FOR MUSIC AND MUSICIANS AND THE SCENE IN GENERAL HERE.
AND JUST GRATEFUL TO KNOW YOU AND FOR ALL THE THINGS YOU DO.
UM, I THINK IT'S SO COOL THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS AND THAT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE'S VOICES ARE HEARD THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY PARTICIPATING HERE, AND THAT SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T MAKE IT FOR WHATEVER REASONS, PERSONAL OR OTHERWISE THEY HAVE.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT GOVERNMENT IS FOR.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT.
IT'S JUST TO HAVE PEOPLE'S VOICES HEARD AND, AND DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH THAT INFORMATION.
AND HAPPY TO HEAR IT AND BE A PART OF THAT VOICE TOO.
UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THE COMMENTS WERE PUT INTO THIS AND WAS THIS VETTED IN ANY WAY OR, MM-HMM.
HOW ARE THESE COMMENTS CHOSEN? AND MY FEAR IS THAT IF IT'S NOT VETTED OR FACT CHECKED, THAT IT'S SPREADING MISINFORMATION AND MAYBE EVEN DISINFORMATION AT TIMES.
'CAUSE I DID SEE SOME STUFF THERE THAT I THINK, LIKE, IF THERE WAS SOME FACT CHECKING, IT COULD BE, UH, AMELIORATED OR, OR FIXED.
I I THINK THERE, THERE, YOU KNOW, IS VERY, THIS IS UNFILTERED INFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY, AND I THINK SOME OF THE TALKING POINTS, UH, OR RATHER SOME OF THE COMMENTS MAY JUST POINT TO THE FACT THAT SOME ISSUES NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.
YOU KNOW, IF MUSICIANS HAVE THE WRONG IDEA ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S OUR JOB AND AS, AS WELL AS THE JOB OF EVERYONE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT MUSICIANS ARE EDUCATED, UH, ABOUT WHAT THE FACTS ARE GOING FORWARD.
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ANYTHING, THIS IS JUST PRESENTED, UH, TO RAISE AWARENESS OF WHAT, UH, THE OPINIONS ARE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, PERSPECTIVES ARE, AND TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER THEY MAY BE FACTUAL OR NOT.AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THOSE.
UH, COMMISSIONER PRICE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER
JUST FOR THE PROCESS, UM, I WASN'T ONE OF THE MUSICIANS OR PROMOTERS THAT APPLIED THIS GO AROUND, BUT THE A DA QUESTION SEEMS TO, OR THE A DA ISSUE POPS UP A LOT.
WAS THE APPLICATION THE SAME FOR VENUES, PROMOTERS, AND MUSICIANS? AND THEN WHAT WERE MUSICIANS REQUIRED TO DO? AND WAS THE A DA PORTION WEIGHTED MORE HEAVILY THAN ANY OTHER, UM, RUBRIC? I'M GONNA LET ERICA ANSWER THAT.
ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER.
UH, NO, THERE WERE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS FOR VENUES AND THEN ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR PROMOTERS AND MUSICIANS.
UH, THE A DA SECTION WAS JUST A SMALL SECTION OF, UM, THAT PART OF THE SCORING RUBRIC THAT WAS FOR ACCESSIBILITY.
AND THERE WAS, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF, OBVIOUSLY THE QUESTION AROUND A DA AND VENUES DOESN'T REALLY RELATE TO THE MUSICIANS.
IT WAS THE ADDITIONAL THINGS MUSICIANS WOULD DO, LIKE PROVIDING, UM, A MORE ACCESSIBLE WEBSITE.
UM, OTHER THINGS THAT THEY DO THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BEING A MUSICIAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE VENUE THEY'RE PLAYING IN THE VENUES HAD THAT TYPE OF QUESTION.
AND, AND SO IT WAS MORE ABOUT JUST SHOWING US, HEY, IF YOU HIRED AN A SL INTERPRETER, SHOW US EVIDENCE OF THAT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A CANCELED CHECK TO THE INTERPRETER OR A PICTURE.
AND SO IT WAS RELEVANT TO THE A DA, UM, ACCESSIBILITY OPTIONS THAT THE MUSICIANS OR THE PROMOTERS WERE ADDING TO, UM, FOR THEIR COMMUNITY TO EXPERIENCE THEIR SHOWS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE SAMPLE SIZE, UH, WE PICKED THE COMMENTS THAT REALLY HAD THE MOST, UH, TEXTUAL INFORMATION.
UH, WE DIDN'T REALLY INCLUDE ALL THE ONE WORD COMMENTS, LIKE DENIED OR BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, YOU KNOW, OR WE, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE ALL THOSE, BUT WE, UH, THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAD ANY SORT OF, UH, GRAVITY TO 'EM.
CARVALHO, COMMISSIONER, UH, PRICE, UH, COMMISSIONER CASDA, YOU HAD, UH, SOME COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER PRICE, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO THE, OKAY.
UM, I, I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THANK YOU, PAT, FOR ALL THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOU DO, UM, WITH YOUR NONPROFIT AND, UM, COLLECTING ALL THIS AMAZING FEEDBACK AND DATA.
I THINK I'M ECHOING, UM, PEDRO'S THOUGHTS TOO, LIKE, SO THIS, THESE ARE ANECDOTAL QUOTES AND FEEDBACK FROM A SURVEY THAT YOU, YOUR NONPROFIT PUT TOGETHER, AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBSTANTIAL, IF YOU WILL, OTHER THAN INDIVIDUAL WORDS OR WHATEVER.
TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS ONE, UH, FACEBOOK POST INSIDE THE GROUP.
AND THESE ARE THE COMMENTS WITHIN THAT POST.
UH, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS IS REALLY MORE DETAILED SURVEY DATA.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE JUDGING THINGS ON A SCALE, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A SMALL SECTION TO, UH, ADD ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AT THE END.
BUT REALLY THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL FEEDBACK THAT WAS, THAT WAS PROBABLY HAPPENING WITHIN THE, THE FIRST WEEK OF THE AWARD ANNOUNCEMENTS.
AND SO THEN I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP WOULD BE, UM, AGAIN, SO SOME OF THESE, UM, RESPONSES DON'T SEEM QUITE ACCURATE.
AND SO THEREFORE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ALMOST NEED AN FAQ MM-HMM.
UH, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY IT.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I I, I, I THINK I SAID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I DON'T WANT TO STIR THE POT.
WHAT I, WHAT I THINK OUR GOAL REALLY HERE IS, IS TO UNIFY THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF VITRIOL AROUND THE, UH, INITIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, SO IN JUST PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION, I HOPE THAT WE HAVE NOT, UH, SPREAD ANY MISINFORMATION, BUT RATHER JUST RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT SOME POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.
UM, WE ARE REALLY JUST HERE TO HELP.
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YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S, I THINK, I THINK MISUNDERSTANDING OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A FUNDS COULD JUST, AS WE ALL ARE AWARE, COULD COME FROM BECAUSE OF MULTITUDE OF REASONS, RIGHT? IS, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, EITHER SOME FOLKS, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCESSED MAYBE ADDITIONAL HELP.SOME FOLKS DIDN'T, SOME FOLKS KNEW ADDITIONAL HELP WAS AVAILABLE OR NOT.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF, UH, HOW MUCH WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, UH, ADVERTISING IS HAPPENING.
ALSO, HOW MUCH, UH, MAYBE PERHAPS AN INDIVIDUAL IS REACHING OUT TO GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION, RIGHT? IT'S, BUT I DO AGREE WITH, UH, PAT THAT, UH, THAT THERE IS SOME MISINFORMATION.
IF THERE IS A INCORRECT STATEMENT, I, I THINK IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES US AWARE THAT THAT, UH, THAT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT GAP IS THERE, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON IT MIGHT BE.
AND THAT PROBABLY JUST GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT IN SOME WAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I'LL CONTINUE, BUT PLEASE, YES.
BUT I, I THINK THAT'S COULD BE A DANGEROUS RHETORIC.
IF YOU GO ON THE INTERNET, AGREE, AND YOU LOOK FOR ALL COMMENTS THAT PERTAIN TO THIS, AND YOU PUT 'EM ALL HERE, AND A LOT OF THIS IS NOT THIS, BUT LIKE, COULD BE MISINFORMATION THEN OR DISINFORMATION, AND THEN IT JUST BECOMES DANGEROUS RHETORIC AT SOME POINT.
I FEEL LIKE IF WE STUCK TO LIKE THIS FORMAT, BUT IT'S PEOPLE'S PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND HOW THEY WERE AFFECTED BY THIS PROGRAM AND HOW THEY FELT THEY WENT THROUGH IT, AND THEIR DIFFICULTIES GETTING THROUGH THE, THE APPLICATION, THEN I THINK THEY COULD BE ADDRESSED A LITTLE EASIER.
BUT TO LOOK FOR COMMENTS ON THE INTERNET THAT PERTAIN TO THIS PROGRAM AND PUT IN HERE COULD JUST HONESTLY JUST BE SPREADING MORE, UH, MISINFORMATION THAN, THAN WE NEED IT TO BE.
I, I, I AGREE ALREADY, KIND OF TUMULTUOUS SITUATION.
I, I AGREE THAT, THAT, THAT THAT COULD CREATE AN ISSUE.
UM, UH, NOT DENYING THAT AT ALL.
UM, IT'S JUST, UH, THAT IT IS, IT IS COMING FROM, UH, WHATEVER SOURCE IT IS COMING IN FROM.
UM, END OF THE DAY, THE FACT IS THAT IT, IT, SOMEBODY SAID IT AND IT EXISTS THERE, AND IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, SOMEBODY COULD COME TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND SAY THE SAME THING AND WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IN THAT INFORMATION.
UH, BUT I, IN, IN, IN, BUT WHAT YOU'RE ALSO, I GUESS, IS REQUESTING, MAYBE YOU ARE ASKING PAT TO KIND OF, WHAT IS THE METHODOLOGY TO BRING THAT INFORMATION FORTH? HOW ARE YOU CHOOSING ONE COMMENT VERSUS THE OTHER TO SHARE? NO, I HAVE NO, I HAVE NO SUGGESTION TO PAT.
PAT KNOWS SO MUCH MORE THAN I DO.
IT'S SO HARDWORKING AND IT IS AMAZING.
UM, YEAH, I'M JUST, UH, TAKING THIS INFORMATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THE TIME TO, TO DISSECT IT.
AND, UM, THOSE WERE MY INITIAL REACTIONS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I HAVE NO SUGGESTIONS IN HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO SUCH A GREAT JOB, AND I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
BUT THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT.
UM, COMMISSIONER CAVALO, I, I GOTTA GET USED TO USING Y'S TERMS. GOOD.
BUT, UM, NO, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
AND I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION, IT'S VERY UNFILTERED.
UM, THERE, THERE CAN BE SOME POINTS OF CLARIFICATION TO MAKE.
AND I THINK OUR HOPE, UH, REALLY IN PRESENTING THIS IS, IS TO GET IT ALL OUT THERE, JUST TO KINDA LAY IT OUT ALL, ALL ON THE TABLE SO THAT WE'RE, WE, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS ARE NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM, BUT PART OF THE SOLUTION, IF THERE IS EDUCATION, UH, IF THERE'S POINTS AROUND THESE TO BE MADE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU GUYS, WITH THE CITY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CLARIFY THOSE POINTS TO OUR AUDIENCE.
UM, IF Y'ALL DON'T, I'D LIKE TO CHERRY PICK ONE, UH, ANECDOTE, UM, AND, AND SEE IF, UM, ERICA COULD POSSIBLY ANSWER, UM, THIS DENIED BECAUSE I LIVE IN LOCKHART, AS I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN LIVE IN LOCKHART, BUT YOUR, YOU, UM, YOUR WORK HAS TO BE, UH, EXHIBITED IN AUSTIN.
IS THAT CONFIRM OR DENY? I AM UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.
UM, YOU HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO APPLY TO BE ELIGIBLE, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE MSA AND, UH, 49% OF YOUR EXPENSES CAN TAKE PLACE OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
WHILE 50% NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICTS, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T ALL ABOUT EVENTS, THIS IS ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT MUSIC ACTIVITIES.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS FOR LOCKHART.
KEN CAN TELL US WHETHER OR NOT LOCKHART IS WITHIN THE MSA, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS.
I, AS I UNDERSTAND LAST TIME, THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WAS, THEY LIVED IN LOCKHART, BUT THEY
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CREATED AN EVENT IN AUSTIN, UM, AND I BELIEVE THEY WERE FUNDED.I AM WOULD LOVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT IF, IF IT'S READILY ACCESSIBLE.
I'M ALSO CURIOUS WHO YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH TO GET THE GRANT, BUT THAT'S
WELL, AND THESE ARE EXACTLY THE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS.
I THINK WE WANT THESE COMMENTS TO DISPLAY.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, STRICKLAND, I'LL, I'LL GET YOU RIGHT AFTER.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THOUGH, I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION AROUND, UM, IF, IF THE, IF THE, THE POST SURVEY, IS IT OPEN TO PUBLIC OR IS IT OPEN TO AT XM MUSICIANS ONLY? UH, IT'S ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, INCLUDING WHERE THE COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM.
UH, WELL, EVERYTHING'S ANONYMOUS, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S IDENTITY IS, IS BUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST, IS IT, IS IT LIMITED? IS IT PUBLIC? OH, YEAH.
THAT ONE IS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE GROUP, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTERS, WE WANT TO PROTECT THEIR IDENTITIES.
UM, SO, UH, JUST, JUST JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION AS WELL.
AND, UM, AND, AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, UM, ALL FOR ALL FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, GETTING FEEDBACK.
UM, AND I THINK, UM, I WOULD JUST, UH, JUST ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE, AND, AND, AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THIS, IS, I THINK, UM, IT IS, UH, THE ONUS IS ON US AS WELL AS TO HOW WHEN SOMEBODY REACHES OUT TO US ABOUT, UM, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT IS NOT CORRECT, OR, OR IF WE CHOOSE TO RESPOND, UH, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, OR ELSEWHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE, UH, DUE RESPONSIBILITY IN HOW WE ARE RESPONDING, UH, THERE AS COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE, OR EITHER WE HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND WE PROVIDE THAT.
UM, WE CHOOSE NOT TO RESPOND ONLINE.
IT'S, IT'S ALL EVERYBODY'S, UH, OWN WAY OF DOING THIS.
OR IF, IF, OR IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE INFORMATION, PLEASE GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION BEFORE WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROCESS ONLINE.
UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, PLEASE.
O UM, UH, PAT, THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR THAT, FOR THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TO US.
I HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS HOW MANY, UH, PEOPLE WERE SAMPLED, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, FOR THE, FOR WHAT YOU SAW HERE TODAY? THIS IS, UM, I THINK WE HAD A, AROUND 272 COMMENTS.
YOU'RE SEEING A SMALL SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THAT IS.
UH, BUT AGAIN, MOST OF THE, A LOT OF THOSE WERE JUST SIMPLE ONE WORD COMMENTS ON WHETHER THEY, UH, WERE DENIED OR, OR GOT THE AWARD.
UH, WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS THE REAL, REALLY THE BEEF OF, OF THOSE COMMENTS.
SO OUT OF THOSE 200 SOMETHING COMMENTS, I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT CONTINUITY WITH, UM, THAT THAT'S CONCERNING, YOU KNOW, GRANT APPLICATION PROCESS, A DA COMPLIANCE, UH, THERE'S, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME LOCATION THINGS, BUT THEN THE APPLICATION AS WELL.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WARRANTED, UH, TO, TO GIVE THAT FEEDBACK.
AND I THINK IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER 200 SOME ODD PEOPLE SAYING BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME THING, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SOME CREDENCE TO BE GIVEN CONCERNING THAT.
I THINK NUMBER TWO, UH, THE, UM, IT, IT, I THINK TO PAT'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE, I, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO LIKE, PUT THESE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND PUT THEIR FACES OR LIKE TAKE A SCREENSHOT OF THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, COMMENT THAT WAS MADE, OR HAVE THEM LIST THEIR NAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE WANT THEM TO SORT OF REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHEN THEY'RE GIVING THIS FEEDBACK SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEMS OR ISSUES WITH FUTURE APPLICATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF THING OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
UM, AND YOU, I MEAN, THIRDLY, I MEAN, THE CITY DID RELEASE THE LIST AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S, AT LEAST I KNOW AT LEAST, UM, ONE PERSON THAT GOT THE GRANT THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE AT ALL.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON THAT IS ON AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE AT ALL.
SO IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS, I'LL BE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MY OWN FINDINGS AND, AND COMING BACK WITH, WITH, WITH, UM, IMPROVEMENTS I THINK THEY NEED TO MAKE.
BUT GOING, ALSO GOING BACK TO THE ADA, A COMPLIANCE THING, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY, AND, AND, AND, AND SPEAKING TO THAT
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POINT FROM THE MUSICIAN'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE ON THE VENUE.THE OWNER SHOULD BE ON THE VENUE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY PART OF OUR APPLICATION AT ALL.
UM, THE, AND, AND, AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY SCORED HIGHER IF WE DID PROVIDE THE A DA COMPLIANCE, IF WE COULD PROVE THAT WE DID.
SO GIVEN HOW CLOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GRANT APPLICATION WAS 101 MUSICIANS AWARDED, OR BEING APPLICANTS AWARDED VERSUS 1200 PEOPLE THAT APPLIED THAT PERCENTAGE POINT, MAYBE A HUNDREDTH OR A, YOU KNOW, OR A 10TH OF, OF A PERCENTAGE POINT, MAYBE EVEN A THOUSAND OF A PERCENTAGE POINT WHEN IT COMES TO 80 A COMPLIANCE COULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE GETTING ZERO OR 30 OR ZERO AND 15.
SO, UM, I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK TO THE EMPATHY AND WITH THAT IN REGARDS TO, UH, MUSICIANS AND COMMENTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK AGAIN, ON, ON FEEDBACK, I KNOW, UM, THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MIXED FEEDBACK AND WHATNOT.
I, I THINK LET'S JUST BE OPEN TO GETTING FEEDBACK FROM, UM, ANY SECTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN, UM, UM, PAT IS, UH, PRESENTING A, A PICTURE FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A SUBSET OF THE COMMUNITY, I'M SURE, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE HEARING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING REACHED OUT TO, UH, BY FOLKS AS WELL.
UM, LET'S ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WITH THE KIND OF INITIAL, UM, KIND OF A BIT OF A TOUGH REACTION THAT WE HAD, ESPECIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THOSE WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE POSITIVE STORIES DIDN'T COME OUT AS WELL BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS OVERWHELMING FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY GOT THE GRANTS TO COME AND CLAIM THAT THEY DID, OR THEY WERE HAPPY ABOUT IT.
SO YOU DIDN'T SEE MUCH A LOT OF THAT.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S, BUT I THINK HE, JUST HEARING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT.
WHICHEVER FORM IT, IT, IT COMES IN.
AND I THINK, SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS VALUABLE.
AND I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THE COMMISSIONERS TO, UH, SHARE SIMILAR INFORMATION AS TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, WHAT YOU ARE GATHERING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, SAME AS WHAT WE HEARD FROM HAM, UH, CEO LAST TIME, AND, UH, WHEN THEY WERE HERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, QUESTION AROUND THE INSURANCE BEING OF SOME CONCERN, RIGHT? SO, UH, SOME EDGE CASES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED OUT ON, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE.
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS? I DID, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD, THANK YOU.
UH, YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH, PAT.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO PLACE THESE COMMENTS IN SORT SOME SORT OF CONTEXT.
WHICH I THINK, UM, I'M HOPING YOU'LL GET FROM THE SURVEY THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT OUT.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS IN THE SURVEY, LIKE, I, I WOULD ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS TO THESE COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, LIKE, UM, MISUNDERSTANDING THE, THE A DA COMPONENT OF IT.
UM, I WOULD ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION OF WERE THEY ABLE TO ATTEND ANY OF THE OFFICE HOURS? WERE THEY ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY HOW THIS, UH, PORTION OF THE APPLICATION COULD APPLY TO THEM AS A MUSICIAN? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THERE ARE A TON OF APPLICATIONS AND THERE ARE A TON OF REALLY AMAZING PEOPLE APPLYING FOR THIS FUND, AND YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW, LIKE, HOW TO NARROW IT DOWN IN SOME WAY.
AND SO GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY WHO MAYBE HAVE GONE, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOVE AND BEYOND AND THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN I MAKE MY SHOWS MORE ACCESSIBLE? HOW CAN I DO SOMETHING EXTRA? NOT, NOT ABOUT A DA COMPLIANCY OF THE VENUE NECESSARILY.
I GET THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE SPACE, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO I HAVE A, CAN I HAVE AN A SL INTERPRETER OR CAN I, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME, SOME FRIENDS, AND I PUT ON A SHOW THAT, THAT IT WAS MY FRIEND'S IDEA, BUT I WAS HAPPY TO BE A PART OF IT WHERE IT WAS A, IT WAS A LIVE RADIO PLAY, BLINDFOLD RADIO PLAY.
SO WE TOOK THE TIME TO INVITE THE, UH, STUDENTS FROM THE TEXAS SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND TO COME AND, AND, AND, AND ENJOY IT BECAUSE IT WAS AN AUDIO ONLY PERFORMANCE, YOU KNOW? AND SO THERE'S LIKE THING, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO BE CREATIVE, AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU, YOU, YOU NEED TO TALK THROUGH THIS WITH SOMEONE.
AND I'M SURE THAT KEN AND ERICA AND, AND SHELBY AND WHOEVER IN THE OFFICE WAS, YOU KNOW, RUNNING OFFICE HOURS AND HELPING GRANT APPLICANTS, UH, TO TALK THROUGH THESE THINGS.
MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE HELPED THEM TO UNDERSTAND THESE QUESTIONS MORE.
SO I, I AGREE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE BEING VERY CLEAR, UM, THAT, THAT QUESTION, UM, THAT PEOPLE WHO
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ARE LISTENING TO THESE MEETINGS AND, AND ARE, ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS, THAT THEY KNOW THAT, THAT THERE'S MORE NUANCE TO IT, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.SO, LONG STORY SHORT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, OR I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IN YOUR SURVEY YOU INCLUDE MAYBE SOME, UH, FOLLOW UP.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU HAD THESE PROBLEMS DURING THE APPLICATION, DID YOU, UH, WERE YOU ABLE TO ATTEND THESE OFFICE VIRTUAL OFFICE HOURS? WERE YOU ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF? WERE YOU ABLE TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN A TIMELY FASHION? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY OVERWHELMING PROCESS.
IT'S A LOT, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU ALSO, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO BE OPEN AND BE AVAILABLE TO HELP PEOPLE.
AND SO YOU ALSO HAVE TO KNOW LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS A BIG DEAL AND I NEED TO TAKE THE STEPS TO HELP MYSELF FIGURE THIS OUT.
I NEED TO TAKE EXTRA STEPS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.
I NEED TO READ ALL OF THE DETAILS VERY CAREFULLY, AND IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM, ASK QUESTIONS.
AND IT'S LIKE, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE RESOURCES, AND THEN YOU ARE UPSET, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU MISUNDERSTOOD, THEN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GIVE THOSE, THAT FEEDBACK AS MUCH WEIGHT AS SOMEONE WHO MAYBE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, GOT, WENT TO THE OFFICE HOURS, TOOK ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER HELP THEY COULD POSSIBLY GET, AND STILL HAD A HARD TIME WITH IT.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NEED TO, THIS IS A, THIS IS NOT LIKE AN EVERYBODY GETS A TROPHY KIND OF SITUATION.
IT CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE UNFEELING BECAUSE I, I, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO GET A TROLL IN THIS CASE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS FUND LIKE A LIFE CHANGING THING FOR PEOPLE.
UM, AND IF IT'S JUST DISPERSED TO EVERY SINGLE APPLICANT, IT'S, IT'S LIKE GETTING A, A LITTLE TINY PAYCHECK FROM A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IS IT REALLY GONNA MAKE? SO I'LL GET OFF MY SOAPBOX NOW, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO ADD.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PRICE.
WA WAS IT POSSIBLE TO RECEIVE A GRANT IF YOU A, DID NOT LIVE IN THE CITY AS COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND SAID, OR IF YOU WERE A MUSICIAN AND DID NOT PLAY A GIG? ONE OF THE COMMENTS, SO IF I MAY, YEAH, I CAN GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT.
UH, I THINK, UH, IT'S THE MSAS, UM, AS LONG AS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED WITHIN THE APPLICATION, I WOULD THINK, UH, THAT, THAT MATCHED THE CRITERIA OF, UH, THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA THAT IT COVERS, THEN THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, AS THE, THE, THE, THE HONEST INFORMATION AND, UH, BE PART OF THE GRANT PROCESS.
SO, SO SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, MISSTATE OR, OR MISTYPE, UM, THAT INFORMATION TO BE A PART OF, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.
AND THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, ABOUT A GIG, YES, BECAUSE THERE WERE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR, UH, BEING, UH, FOR BEING ELIGIBLE TO APPLY TO THE GRANTS.
AND THERE WERE TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT CRITERIA YOU NEEDED TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SINGLES OR VIDEOS OR, YOU KNOW, HAD, HAD TO HAVE LIKE TWO YEARS OF HISTORY SHOWING, UH, PERFORMANCES.
SO IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THINGS.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR A LIVE MUSIC FUND GRANT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SAID JUST NOW THAT YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO SHOWCASE OF PERFORMANCES.
SO THAT MEANS YOU DID PLAY A GIG.
YOU DID HAVE TO, IT'S ONE OF THE CRITERIA.
THERE WERE OTHER, IT, IT WAS AN OR CRITERIA.
YOU EITHER HAD THIS OR THIS OR THAT.
SO IT WAS NOT NECESSARY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE PLAYED LOCAL CAKES BECAUSE, UM, JUST TO REITERATE, THE, THE FUN CAN BE USED FOR PERFORMANCES, FOR RECORDINGS, FOR VIDEOS, A MULTITUDE OF THINGS.
UH, SO THAT YOU HAD TO PERFORM LIVE IN THE CITY AND SHOW SOME HISTORY, THERE WAS NOT, UH, NECESSARY.
YOU COULD HAVE, AS A MUSICIAN, SEVERAL RELEASES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RELEASES AND YOU WOULD STILL QUALIFY.
I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU DIFFERENTLY ON THAT.
I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING ON THAT.
IF, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, COMMISSIONER GOULD'S, UH, QUESTION.
UM, UH, THE APPLICATION, OR, OR RATHER, THE SURVEY HAS BEEN, UH, LIVE FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS NOW.
UM, A LOT OF WHAT YOU JUST ASKED IS, IS IN THAT, IF YOU GO TO THE END OF THE DOCUMENT THERE AND OPEN IT UP AND SCROLL THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS YOU, YOU JUST ASKED, UH, REFLECTED THE ONE ABOUT A DA IS NOT IN THERE.
UH, SO LET ME ASK YOU GUYS A QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY BIG
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SAMPLE SIZE OF FOLKS WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SURVEY, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT US TO GO BACK AND ADD SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, I'M OPEN TO IT.UH, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ONCE YOU REVIEW, UH, THE SURVEY THAT'S ALREADY UP AND RUNNING.
COMMISSIONER CARVAL, I, I, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OF THESE COMMENTS THAT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME, AND IF, IF I COULD READ IT REAL QUICK SO WE CAN GO BACK TO IT COLLECTIVELY.
UM, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
IT SAYS WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET OUR MONEY FROM LAST YEAR'S GRANT.
SO MANY HOOPS YOU HAVE TO TRY, YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
LAST WE HEARD WE HAD TO REWORD SOMETHING OR OTHER.
I THINK THIS SHOWS THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMEBODY OVERWHELMED WITH THE PROCESS AND SOME PEOPLE AREN'T GOOD AT TAKING TESTS.
SOME PEOPLE PLAY MUSIC BETTER THAN THEY DO OTHER THINGS, LIKE MYSELF INCLUDED.
RIGHT? SO, SO A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS, IF WE COULD JUST DIRECT THEM TO THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AND HELP THESE PEOPLE THROUGH THESE HOOPS, LIKE, I THINK IF YOU JUST SENT THEM, UH, MR. GREG GONZALES'S EMAIL, WHO CAN HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THIS PRESSURE AND ANSWER A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE HE DOES ARTIST DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE PROGRAMS. MM-HMM,
AND I THINK GREG'S AWARE, I'VE, I ALREADY HAVE SENT QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HIS WAY, RIGHT? BUT, UM, MAYBE THERE'S A, A MORE OF A SPECIFIC STREAMLINED KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, CONDUIT TO, TO GET THOSE COMMENTS OVER TO THE FOLKS WHO CAN'T ANSWER, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE I'M, I'M CERTAINLY NOT GONNA PROFESS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE EXPERT ON ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ANSWERED IN AN ACCURATE WAY.
UM, AND I THINK, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS FEEDBACK POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME EDUCATION TO BE DONE.
SO JUST WHATEVER, UH, ROLE THAT WE CAN PLAY IN HELPING, UH, YOU KNOW, FACILITATE SOME OF THAT, THAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND MUSICIANS IS, IS REALLY THE ONLY ROLE I THINK WE WE NEED TO SERVE HERE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO.
YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK, AGAIN, WITH FEEDBACK, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, IT'S, IT'S JUST GETTING AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE, YOU KNOW, UH, CAN AND BE OPEN TO IT.
AND THEN SEEING WHAT THE RECURRING THEMES ARE AND, UH, IF THERE IS A WAY TO ADDRESS THEM, OR IS IF THERE IS MAYBE, UH, IF NOT THERE IS A, UH, THE REASON WHY IT IS THERE AND JUST JUST REITERATE WHY A PARTICULAR, UH, CLAUSE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, CRITERIA IS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UH, SO IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT GOING AND CHANGING EVERYTHING THAT WE HEAR ABOUT, BUT, BUT JUST GETTING SOME, UH, NUANCED INFORMATION AND, UH, UH, MAKING DECISIONS ON HOW BEST TO IMPROVE, UH, THE NEXT ROUND.
UM, I THINK, UM, ONE OF, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PATON, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
OH, I JUST, UH, STAFF DID WANT US TO, UH, CLARIFY THAT LOCKHART IS IN CALDWELL COUNTY, AND THAT'S PART OF THE FIVE COUNTY MSA.
SO IF SOMEONE LIVES IN LOCKHART, THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT.
IT WOULDN'T, LIVING, THERE WOULD NOT BE A REASON FOR DENIAL.
SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS WHERE HE WAS JUST PERTURBED ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE MISSING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE JUST DIDN'T WANT EVERYBODY IN LOCKHART TO BE LIKE, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPLY NEXT YEAR.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WAS GREAT INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, SHELBY, AND THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER PATTON FOR THAT, UM, CLARIFICATION.
UM, SO, OKAY, SO, UM, I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF, UM, THOUGHTS HERE.
UM, ONE IS I WANTED TO SHARE, UM, THAT, SO AT THE ARTS COMMISSION THE LAST TIME, THERE WERE, UM, UM, QUESTIONS AND SOME COMMENTS AROUND MUSICIANS APPLYING, UM, FOR ARTS GRANTS AND BEING, HAVING THIS ABILITY TO APPLY ON BOTH SIDES AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION AND WHETHER THAT WAS FAIR OR NOT.