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          [CALL TO ORDER]
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          GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. 
          ARE WE READY TO ROLL? GREAT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. 
          I'M LESLIE POOLE, THE CHAIR OF THE AUSTIN WATER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AND WE ARE MEETING HERE AT CITY HALL ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024 AT ONE 30. 
          CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          AND ON THE DAAS WITH ME ARE MY VICE CHAIR RYAN ALTER, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON ALTER. 
          UH, THE MAYOR IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE AND HE IS OUT OF TOWN TODAY AND UNABLE TO ATTEND. 
          [Public Communication: General]
I THINK WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, MR. GUTIERREZ. 
          ADRIAN GUTIERREZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM AND WE'LL, WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES FOR YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 
          HELLO COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. 
          I'LL BE SHORT. 
          I'M REALLY HERE TO ADDRESS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I BROUGHT FORTH TO THE, UH, COUNCIL, THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE A FEW MEETINGS AGO, PROBABLY LAST YEAR. 
          AND IT REALLY IS ABOUT HOW, UH, THE AUSTIN WATER, UH, TREATS, UH, COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IN REGARDS TO BILL MITIGATION AND REPAIRS VERSUS, UH, RESIDENTIAL. 
          UH, WE HAD AN INCIDENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AT OUR PROPERTY, UH, IN DISTRICT THREE, UH, THAT HAD A, A MAJOR LOSS OF WATER AND STUFF. 
          WE GOT IT REPAIRED RIGHT AWAY. 
          I'VE HAD, UH, VARIOUS, UH, INROADS INTO COUNCIL MEMBER MEETINGS, INCLUDING AIDS, UM, AND PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF THROUGH INVESTIGATIONS AND WHATNOT. 
          THEY'VE RECOMMENDED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT WE TALKED TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE AND REGARDS TO THAT ISSUE. 
          AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT, UH, ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AGAIN AND, AND CONSIDER, UH, HOW WE TREAT, UH, COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS VERSUS RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE BILL MITIGATION AND STUFF. 
          WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION TO THAT. 
          SO THAT REALLY IS WHY I'M HERE, JUST TO ONCE AGAIN, BRING THIS TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. 
          AND I'VE BEEN MAKING EFFORTS TO GET IN WITH THE VARIOUS AIDES AND STUFF AND STILL WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO, BUT HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GUTIERREZ. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE. 
          OUR 
          [1. Approve the minutes of the May 9, 2024, regular meeting of the Austin Water Oversight Committee.]
NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, THE MAY 9TH, 2024 REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUSTIN WATER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. 
          AND I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIR ALTER AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON ALTER. 
          ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS AND ANY OBJECTIONS TO APPROVING THESE? UM, AND SO THESE MINUTES ARE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. 
          [2. Approve the 2025 Austin Water Oversight Committee meeting dates]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPROVE THE 2025 AUSTIN WATER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING DATES. 
          LET ME READ THESE INTO THE RECORD AND THEN STAFF, IF YOU COULD CORRECT ANY OF THE DATES THAT I'VE GOT HERE IN CASE I DON'T HAVE THEM, RIGHT OR IN CASE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME LAST MINUTE UPDATES. 
          THE PROPOSED START TIME FOR ALL MEETINGS OF THE WATER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025 IS 1:30 PM ALL TUESDAYS. 
          AND THE DATES, UH, ESSENTIALLY ARE EVERY OTHER MONTH STARTING IN FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 18, APRIL 15, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD DATE. 
          JUNE 10, IT'S NOT MY BIRTHDAY. 
          JUNE 10, AUGUST 19, OCTOBER 14, AND DECEMBER TWO. 
          SO, UM, ANY CHANGES FROM THE DIOCESE? ALL RIGHT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? COUNCIL MEMBER ALISON ALTER MAKES THE MOTION AND VICE CHAIR RYAN ALTER SECONDS THERE BEING NO AMENDMENTS OR ADJUSTMENTS OR OBJECTIONS TO THIS ITEM. 
          THESE SIX STATES FOR THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR CALENDAR 2025 ARE ADOPTED. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          NUMBER 
          [3. Discussion and possible action on recommendations to Council regarding adoption of Water Forward 2024 (Austin’s Integrated Water Resource Plan) and updates to Austin’s Water Conservation and Drought Contingency Plans.]
THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL REGARDING ADOPTION OF WATER FORWARD 2024, WHICH IS AUSTIN'S INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLAN AND UPDATES TO AUSTIN WATERS, AUSTIN WATER CONSERVATION AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLANS. 
          AND DIRECTOR ROLSON, ARE YOU AT THE PODIUM FOR THIS AND YOUR TEAM? THANK YOU. 
          I UNDERSTAND YOU HAD SOME GOOD, GOOD RESPONSES, UH, WHEN YOU TOOK THIS UPDATE TO THE REQUISITE COMMISSIONS WE DID. 
          SO WE HAVE, UM, PRESENTED THESE PLANS TO THE WATER FORWARD TASK FORCE WHO WORKED WITH US, UM, OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS TO UPDATE THESE PLANS. 
          UM, AND THEY, UH, VOTED TO RECOMMEND THESE PLANS FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          WE WILL TAKE THEM TO, UM, WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION 
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TOMORROW NIGHT AND TO THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION, UM, NEXT WEEK AND THEN COUNCIL ON THURSDAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A FEW UPDATED SLIDES FOR YOU. 
          I KNOW WE GAVE A, UM, A BRIEFING TO THE FULL COUNSEL AND, UM, YOU ALL HAD ASKED US A FEW QUESTIONS, AND SO WE HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT GENERALLY HIT THE HIGH POINTS OF THESE PLANS. 
          AND THEN, UM, WOULD YOU GRAB ME THAT CLIP PLEASE? AND THEN, UM, POINT OUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE PAST PLANS AND THE THESE PROPOSED PLANS AND ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAD AT WORK SESSION. 
          SO, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND FOR THOSE, UH, WHO MAY BE WATCHING AND FOLLOWING ALONG, WATER FORWARD IS OUR, UH, THE CITY'S 100 YEAR INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLAN. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE IMPORTANT PART OF THIS SLIDE IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ADAPTABLE TO CHANGING CONDITIONS, GROWTH, DROUGHT, AND CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          AND WHAT WE REALLY MEAN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADAPTABILITY IS PLANNING FOR UNCERTAINTY, AND THAT'S UNCERTAINTY IN WHEN AND HOW OUR CITY WILL GROW, WHAT LEVEL OF SEVERITY, CLIMATE CHANGE WE MAY BE FACING, AND THEN THE LENGTH AND SEVERITY OF DROUGHTS. 
          UM, AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT DROUGHTS, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT THE COMBINED STORAGE OF LAKES, BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS SINCE THOSE, THE DAMS THAT FORMED THOSE LAKES ON THE TEXAS, COLORADO RIVER WERE BUILT BACK IN THE FORTIES. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE DROUGHT OF THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES, WHICH WAS OUR PREVIOUS DROUGHT OF RECORD THAT WE PLANNED AGAINST. 
          UH, AND THEN A NICE LONG PERIOD OF SEASONAL, UH, LAKES FALLING AND FILLING OVER THE COURSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR SO. 
          AND THEN A REALLY LONG AND DEEP DROUGHT FROM 2008 TO 2016, WHICH IS WHAT PROMPTED US TO PUT TOGETHER THE WATER FORWARD PLAN, WHICH, UH, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED, UH, UNANIMOUSLY IN 2018. 
          SO THIS IS OUR, UH, FIVE YEAR UPDATE TO THAT PLAN, AND WE HAVE REALLY LEANED INTO THE ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PART OF THIS PLAN. 
          UH, THIS PLAN IS FOUNDED FIRST AND FOREMOST ON WATER CONSERVATION REUSE OF OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TAKE WATER OUTTA THE COLORADO RIVER. 
          WE TREAT IT, WE DELIVER IT TO OUR CUSTOMERS, WE COLLECT IT FROM THEM, WE TREAT IT AGAIN, AND WE PUT IT BACK IN THE RIVER. 
          AND THEN A PORTION OF THAT WATER GETS, UH, PUT INTO OUR CENTRALIZED RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM TO USE FOR NON-DRINKING WATER USES, UM, BY OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY FOR US. 
          AND THEN, UH, SINCE WE ARE DEPENDENT ON THE TEXAS COLORADO RIVER FOR OUR FULL SUPPLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES TO STRETCH THOSE SUPPLIES AS WELL AS DEVELOP NEW SUPPLIES. 
          AND THEN WITHIN THE TEXAS, COLORADO RIVER BASIN, UM, WE ARE NOT THE ONLY, UM, COMMUNITY THAT DEPENDS ON THAT RIVER. 
          AND SO OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY AND OTHER, UM, MUNICIPAL AND OTHER USES IN THE BASIN ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          SO, UH, WE DESCRIBED THIS IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AT THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE PUT TOGETHER, UM, 2 MILLION , UH, UH, ANALYSES, UH, WHERE WE CHECKED DIFFERENT, UM, LEVELS OF PORTFOLIOS AGAINST DIFFERENT POSSIBLE FUTURE SCENARIOS. 
          AND, UH, WE CAME UP WITH, UH, 10 PORTFOLIOS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE PINK DOTS HERE THAT ESSENTIALLY ARE FOR ANY, UM, GIVEN PERFORMANCE, UM, HAVE THE LEAST COST. 
          AND SO WE COMPARE THOSE PORTFOLIOS TO ONE ANOTHER. 
          AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT IS ALL OF THESE PORTFOLIOS USE THE FULL SUITE OF CONSERVATION AND REUSE STRATEGIES. 
          AND THEN WE LAYER ON, UM, UH, A VARIABLE, UM, SUPPLY SOURCES NEW SUPPLY AND, AND STRETCHING OUR EXISTING SUPPLY SOURCES. 
          SO THE RECOMMENDED PORTFOLIO IS, UH, PORTFOLIO SIX, AGAIN ON THE LEFT, THE FULL SUITE OF, UM, CONSERVATION AND REUSE STRATEGIES. 
          UH, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK IN ANOTHER PRESENTATION TODAY ABOUT WATER LOSS CONTROL. 
          THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR FUTURE SUPPLY, UM, COORDINATING WITH OUR CUSTOMERS ON WATER USE MANAGEMENT, UM, AND OUR UPDATE TO OUR WATER CONSERVATION PLAN, SHIFTING INTO NATIVE AND EFFICIENT LANDSCAPES. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE, UM, ONSITE WATER REUSE AND CENTRALIZED RECLAIMED SYSTEM UNDER SUPPLIES, STRETCHING OUR EXISTING COLORADO RIVER SUPPLIES. 
          WE HAVE AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY WHERE WE TAKE WATER, TREATED WATER OUT OF OUR SYSTEM AND STORED UNDERGROUND FOR USE LATER. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE, WHICH IS TAKING TREATED WASTEWATER, TREATING IT EVEN FURTHER, PUTTING IT INTO LADY BIRD LAKE, AND THEN TAKING IT OUT, UH, 
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AT THE ULRICH WATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, NEW OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR THAT WOULD USE LAKE WALTER LONG, UM, AT DECKER DAM, UH, TO MOVE WATER FROM THE COLORADO RIVER INTO THAT RESERVOIR AND THEN TREAT IT AND PUT IT INTO OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM FROM THERE. 
          UM, THOSE STRATEGIES ARE ALL RELIANT ON THE COLORADO RIVER. 
          AND THEN FOR NEW WATER SUPPLY STRATEGIES COMING INTO THE PLAN NOW, WE HAVE BRACKISH GR, UH, GROUNDWATER DESALINATION. 
          SO THAT'S TAKING NATURALLY SALTY WATER, DESALINATING IT, AND THEN, UH, DELIVERING IT INTO OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CHANGES BETWEEN 20, THE 2018 PLAN AND THE 2024 PLAN, WE DID A LOT OF WORK AROUND UPDATED CLIMATE AND HYDROLOGY, UM, TO REALLY HELP US BRACKET POSSIBLE FUTURES THAT WE NEED TO PLAN FOR. 
          UM, AND WE LEANED IN ON PLANNING FOR UNCERTAINTY AND THIS 100 YEAR ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PATHWAYS. 
          SO THE OLD WAY OF PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE WAS TO IDENTIFY THE MOST PROBABLE FUTURE AND THEN PLAN FOR THAT. 
          UH, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO HERE IS IDENTIFY THE, THE RANGE, UH, BRACKET, IF YOU WILL, THE POSSIBLE FUTURES. 
          AND THEN IM BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES THAT WORK FOR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF POSSIBLE FUTURES. 
          UM, AND THEN EVERY FIVE YEARS, WE'RE UPDATING THAT ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TRACK AND WE, UM, ADJUST OUR STRATEGIES AS NEEDED. 
          UM, WE UPDATED OUR EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY ROADMAP BECAUSE, UH, THE, THESE, THIS PLAN WILL REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FROM OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UH, AND SO WE WANT TO KEEP, UH, EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY TOP OF MIND AS WE DEVELOP THESE STRATEGIES. 
          MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PLAN FOR A FUTURE THAT IS FAIR AND AFFORDABLE TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, WE CONDUCTED, UH, BEGAN TO CONDUCT THE COLORADO RIVER LAND ANALYSIS. 
          SO THIS IS THE IDEA. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE HAVE BEING WHERE WE ARE ON THE TEXAS, COLORADO RIVER, IS THAT THE, UM, OUR WATER SOURCE UPSTREAM IS VERY WELL PROTECTED BY DECADES OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, INCLUDING THE HIGHLAND LAKES DISCHARGE BAN, WHICH PREVENTS THE DISCHARGE OF POLLUTANTS INTO, UM, INTO THE HIGHLAND LAKES. 
          AND AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN EXTEND THAT INTO THE FUTURE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT AREAS OF OUR WATER SUPPLY BASIN CAN WE PROTECT BY EXTENDING THE LAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES WE ALREADY USE FOR THE WATER QUALITY PROTECTION LANDS AND THE BALCON CANYON LANDS PRESERVE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR WATER QUALITY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR EXPANDED WATER CONSERVATION AND WATER LOSS CONTROL. 
          SO WE HAVE, UM, INTEGRATED, WE HAVE WOVEN INTO THE WATER FORWARD PLAN, ALL OF OUR WATER CONSERVATION AND WATER LOSS CONTROL STRATEGIES, UM, THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE TODAY. 
          AND THEN I MENTIONED THE, THE OFF CHANNEL STORAGE PROJECT ON LAKE WALTER E. LONG. 
          SO THAT, UH, ESSENTIALLY COVERS THE UPDATE TO THE WATER FORWARD PLAN. 
          UM, BACK IN MAY, UH, WE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL UPDATED WATER CONSERVATION AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLANS. 
          THESE PLANS ARE REQUIRED FOR WATER UTILITIES IN TEXAS TO BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          THOSE PLANS WERE DUE IN MAY, AND COUNCIL APPROVED THEM, UH, WITH THE DIRECTION TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE UPDATES TO THE WATER FORWARD PLAN. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT IS WHAT WE DID. 
          AS A REMINDER, THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN IS A PLAN FOR ALL, UH, THE WAY WE USE WATER ALL YEAR ROUND. 
          AND THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN IS, UH, FOCUSES ON WAYS WE CAN REDUCE OUR WATER USE DURING DROUGHT. 
          SO SOME CHANGES IN THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN BETWEEN 2019 AND 2024, UM, WE UPDATED AND, UH, EXPANDED OUR METRICS FOR ALL OUR CONSERVATION ACTIVITIES. 
          UH, WE UPDATED OUR WATER USE GOALS BASED ON A BOTTOM UP ESTIMATE OF POTENTIAL SAVINGS. 
          SO WE, WE STARTED WITH WHAT, BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WHAT CAN WE EXPECT TO ACHIEVE THROUGH WATER CONSERVATION? AND THEN, AND THEN WE SET OUR WATER USE GOALS, UM, BASED ON THE, OUR, UH, OUR REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE WITH THESE STRATEGIES, THE NEW STRATEGIES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED. 
          AND THEN, UH, IT'S KNOWING THAT WE WILL ASSIGN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO STRETCH THOSE GOALS. 
          UM, SO THE GOALS THAT 
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WE HAVE SET, WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA, WE DON'T HAVE STRATEGIES TO FULLY MEET THEM, BUT WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD FOUNDATION THAT WE KNOW WE CAN GET THERE WHEN WE COMMIT THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT. 
          UH, SO SOME OF THE NEW ACTIVITIES ARE THE LANDSCAPE TRANSFORMATION, UM, ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION INCENTIVES FOR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. 
          I'VE TALKED ABOUT WATER LOSS ALREADY COMPLETING THE MY A TX WATER, THAT'S OUR SMART METER ROLLOUT. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS FROM THE MY A TX WATER PROGRAM, UH, IN EMPOWERING OUR CUSTOMERS TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR WATER USE. 
          AND THEN, OF COURSE, PUBLIC OUTREACH AND MARKETING CONTINUES TO BE A FOCUS FOR US. 
          SO SINCE MAY WE'VE MADE ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THE PLAN, INCLUDING, UM, ADDING RESTRICTIONS TO DRIP IRRIGATION. 
          SO DRIP WAS PREVIOUSLY UNRESTRICTED, AND NOW IT WILL BE, UH, TWO DAYS PER WEEK FOR DRIP IRRIGATION. 
          SIMILAR TO HOSE END SPRAY IRRIGATION IS ONE DAY A WEEK. 
          WE INCORPORATED THE EXPECTED SAVINGS FROM THE GO PURPLE PROGRAM, WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED IN MARCH AND WENT INTO EFFECT IN APRIL. 
          UM, WE INCORPORATED THE MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR WATER LOSS THAT CAME OUT OF THE EXTERNAL REVIEW THAT WAS COMPLETED OVER THE SUMMER. 
          UM, AND WE'VE, UH, INTEGRATED THESE FUTURE ACTIVITIES WITH WATER FORWARD, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          SO WATER FORWARD HAS YIELDS ASSOCIATED WITH WATER CONSERVATION THAT COME DIRECTLY OUT OF THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          UM, AND THEN I WOULD REALLY, UM, DRAW YOUR ATTENTION OF THE QUARTERLY AND ANNUAL REPORTING. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THIS YEAR ABOUT, UM, WHERE WE ARE IN WATER CONSERVATION AND IN OUR WATER USE. 
          AND RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS, WHEN WE BRING YOU AN UPDATED PLAN, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT EVERY QUARTER AND EVERY YEAR SO THAT, UM, WE BRING OUR COMMUNITY ALONG WITH US AND UNDERSTANDING HOW WE'RE DOING AND MEETING THESE GOALS . 
          SO, UM, IN THE 2019 PLAN, WE WERE AT A BASELINE OF 126 GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY. 
          SO THAT'S TAKING THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE PRODUCE DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OF HUMANS THAT WE SERVE. 
          UM, AND THAT GETS US TO 126 GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY. 
          WE SET A FIVE YEAR GOAL AT THAT TIME OF GETTING DOWN TO 119 GALLONS PER PERSON, PER DAY. 
          HOWEVER, OUR, UM, AS WE DISCUSSED IN WORK SESSION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, OUR BASELINE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
          AND SO THIS WAS REALLY A YEAR OF UNDERSTANDING THE REASONS BEHIND THAT OF, UM, AS I SAID, A BOTTOMS UP APPROACH TO DEVELOPING OUR STRATEGIES AND UNDERSTANDING, UH, WHAT OUR GOALS COULD BE. 
          AND SO WE RECOMMENDED A GOAL IN MAY OF 120, A FIVE YEAR GOAL OF 123 GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY. 
          AND BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE MAY, WE NOW RECOMMEND A STRETCH GOAL OF 121 GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY AS OUR FIVE YEAR GOAL, AND THEN 114 GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY IN 2034. 
          SHAY, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU TO KIND OF HONE IN ON THOSE NUMBERS. 
          IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT SLIDE BACK UP. 
          WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR GOALS ARE THESE GOALS WHERE THE CITY SAYS THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE, AND IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, THEN THERE'S SOME KIND OF ACTION THAT WE WILL TAKE IN ORDER TO MAKE YOU GET THERE. 
          OR IS THIS REALLY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY VOLUNTARILY LIMITING ITS USE OF WATER? SO THAT AS THAT IS HOW WE GET TO THESE GOALS, LIKE THE RESPONSIBILITY RESTS WITH THE CITY AND AUSTIN WATER, OR IS IT RESTING WITH, UH, THE USERS? THAT'S A, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT THAT WHERE WE, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE USE AS A COMMUNITY IS DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF OUR USERS. 
          IT'S IN THE HANDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT OUR OPPORTUNITY IS TO PROVIDE OUTREACH PROGRAMS, INCENTIVES THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE AND ACTIONABLE TO OUR CUSTOMERS, AND THEN OUR CUSTOMERS, UH, BASED ON THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, THEN HELP US ACHIEVE THIS GOAL. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE THE MOST ROBUST WATER CONSERVATION PLAN THAT WE'VE EVER HAD, AND WE'RE GONNA DO ALL OF THE STRATEGIES THAT ARE IN THAT PLAN. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THESE STRATEGIES, OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE USING THESE STRATEGIES, THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A STRETCH, BUT WHEN WE ADD THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE PLANNED TO ADD, WE BELIEVE, UM, THAT 121 
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GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY IS, IS, UM, IS AN APPROPRIATE STRETCH GOAL TO SET THAT, UH, WE CAN CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CUSTOMERS, SHOW THEM THE PROGRESS THROUGH OUR REPORTING, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THEY, THE ROLE THAT THEY HAVE TO PLAY IN MEETING THIS GOAL. 
          BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A THING THAT WE JUST TAKE AUSTIN WATER STAFF AND GO OUT AND DO THE WORK AND ACHIEVE THE GOAL. 
          IT REALLY REQUIRES COMMUNITY BUY-IN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE COULD ESSENTIALLY PUT THAT GOAL AT ANY NUMBER ALMOST, I WOULD GUESS, AND WE WOULD STILL BE PRESENTED WITH THE SAME ISSUE, WHICH IS HOW DO WE EDUCATE AND SOCIALIZE THE CONCERNS AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN EVERY DAY WHEN THEY TURN ON THE FAUCET AT THEIR HOME OR AT THEIR OFFICE, OR IN A HOTEL ROOM THAT, OR IN A RESTAURANT THAT THEY ARE KEEPING TOP OF MIND, THE PRECIOUS NATURE AND THE LIMITED NATURE OF OUR WATER SUPPLY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THANKS. 
          SO MOVING ON TO THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN CHANGES THAT WE MADE BETWEEN 2016. 
          UH, SO WHEN IN, UM, CORRECT ME KEVIN, BUT IN 2019, WE, UH, WE JUST REISSUED OUR 2016 PLAN, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          AND SO, UM, WHEN, UH, LCRA MOVED THERE, STAGE ONE TRIGGER TO 1.1, WE MAINTAINED OUR TRIGGER AT 1.4 MILLION ACRE FEET. 
          UM, AND THAT 2 MILLION ACRE FEET, YOU MAY REMEMBER, IS FULL LAKE LEVEL. 
          SO FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, WE ARE A, A VERY LARGE USER IN THE RIVER BASIN, WE WANT TO SET THAT, UM, THAT TRIGGERED EARLIER SO THAT WE HAVE TIME TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR WATER USE. 
          UM, AND THEN STAGE TWO IS 900,000 ACRE FEET OF STORAGE. 
          LCRA ADDED AN INFLOW TRIGGER. 
          SO THEY WILL LOOK AT INFLOWS TWICE A YEAR, AND DEPENDING ON CONDITIONS THEY WILL GO INTO, THEY MAY GO INTO STAGE TWO EARLIER THAN 900,000 ACRE FEET. 
          AND SO WE SET OUR TRIGGER TO MATCH THEIRS. 
          UH, AND THEN IN STAGE THREE, WE ADDED, UM, WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO HOW WE HANDLE ATHLETIC FIELDS. 
          UH, SO IT'S AN EXEMPTION RATHER THAN A VARIANCE, WHICH I THINK JUST MEANS THEY HAVE TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT IT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, WE, UH, WE GO INTO A NO WARNING FOR WATERING VIOLATIONS, BUT WE'RE GONNA DISMISS THAT PENALTY IF THEY'LL COMPLETE AN ONLINE IRRIGATION CONSERVATION COURSE. 
          'CAUSE THE GOAL IS EDUCATION. 
          UM, AND THEN IN STAGE FOUR, UH, LCRA HAS REQUIRED, UH, NO IRRIGATION OF NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF, NON-FUNCTIONAL MEANS ALL THE TURF GRASS THAT ISN'T BEING USED FOR SPORTS FIELDS AND, AND GOLF COURSES AND OTHER, UH, COMMUNITY INTERESTS. 
          AND THEN A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON PERMITS FOR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AND SINGLE FAMILY POOL PERMITS. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE A, A NUMBER OF DISCRETIONARY MEASURES TO SAVE WATER THROUGHOUT ALL THE STAGES, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES. 
          UH, WE HAVE A DROUGHT SURCHARGE IN OUR RATES WHEN WE GET TO STAGES THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE. 
          UM, SHAY YES, REAL QUICK ON THAT ITEM, ON THE STAGE THREE, I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE, UM, STAFF COULD CONSIDER SOME ADDITIONAL LEVEL THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOME KIND OF A, A PENALTY SHOULD THE EDUCATION EFFORTS FAIL. 
          SO LIKE WHAT'S BEYOND STAGE THREE? WE, I GET THE IDEA ABOUT THE INCENTIVES AND THE EDUCATION, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME INSTANCES WHERE THAT HASN'T WORKED. 
          THERE, THERE DEFINITELY ARE EVEN IN, WE'RE IN STAGE TWO NOW, AND THERE DEFINITELY ARE, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE RELATIVELY IMMUNE TO THE, UM, OUR ENCOURAGEMENT. 
          UM, AND SO WE DO HAVE AN ESCALATORY PROCESS FOR PENALTIES IN PLACE NOW, SAFE TO SAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANKS. 
          SO SINCE MAY, WE'VE ADDED, UM, THE DRIP IRRIGATION RESTRICTIONS TO OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN, UM, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY FOR WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE, UH, WE'VE ADJUSTED OUR, UM, UH, TWO DAYS PER WEEK, ONE DAY PER WEEK IN THE VARIOUS STAGES AS THE, AS DROUGHTS PROGRESS. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE RESTRICTIONS WITH LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION STAKEHOLDERS TO, AND WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE, UH, EXPERTS. 
          AND WE'VE MADE SOME EXEMPTIONS FOR TREES AND GARDENS. 
          WE KNOW THAT, UM, WE CERTAINLY WANNA PROTECT OUR TREE CANOPY EVEN IN DROUGHT. 
          UM, AND SO WE, WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THOSE ISSUES AS WELL. 
          AS 
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I MENTIONED WHEN WE KICKED OFF, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR, UM, COUNCIL APPOINTED TASK FORCE WATER FORWARD TASK FORCE, UH, AND, UH, LAST WEEK THEY VOTED TO RECOMMEND ALL THREE OF THESE PLANS, UM, TWO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL. 
          AND WE'LL BE TAKING THESE TO COUNSEL NEXT THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT. 
          GREAT. 
          LET'S SEE WHAT QUESTIONS WE HAVE ON THE DI COUNCIL MEMBER RYAN ALTER. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, LOOKING AT SLIDE SIX, THE PORTFOLIO EVALUATIONS, I WAS CURIOUS, AND THIS IS NOT A QUESTION YOU NEED TO ANSWER NOW, BASICALLY I, I HAVE SOME DATA QUESTIONS. 
          I'M HOPING Y'ALL CAN SEND US THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF THE MEETING ON THE 21ST, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SCALED COST AND THE PERFORMANCE SCORE, I WAS HOPING TO GET SOME NUMERICAL, NOT JUST PERCENTAGES, RIGHT? SO LIKE, IF WE'RE TALKING THE DIFFERENCE OF LET'S SAY BETWEEN PORTFOLIO SIX AND PORTFOLIO EIGHT, LOOKS LIKE THAT'S LIKE AN 88% PERFORMANCE SCORE VERSUS A 92% PERFORMANCE SCORE. 
          WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN IN TERMS OF WATER SAVINGS? SAME WITH THE, THE SCALED COST. 
          LIKE WHAT, WHAT SCALE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF COST? UM, SO IF YOU COULD JUST HELP BREAK DOWN FOR US KIND OF HERE'S HOW MUCH WATER SAVINGS AT WHAT COST ON A NUMERICAL ELEMENT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. 
          YEAH, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO FOR EACH OF THOSE MAGENTA DOTS THAT ARE ON THE SLIDE, WE DID A FURTHER EVALUATION, SO BEYOND THIS INITIAL ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY THE, UM, OVERALL UNIT COST FOR THE, UH, PORTFOLIO STRATEGIES AND, UM, ALSO THE ULTIMATE WATER SUPPLY RELIABILITY SCORE, WHICH IS MADE UP OF THE PORTFOLIO'S WATER SUPPLY, RELIABILITY, RESILIENCY, AND, AND VULNERABILITY TO DIFFERENT DROUGHT AND CLIMATE CHANGE SCENARIOS. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME, OH, LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, WE HAVE ON THE BACK FOR THIS PRESENTATION ON SLIDE 36. 
          SLIDE 36, AND WE CAN, THIS IS JUST, THIS WILL JUST SHOW HOW THE SCORES, UM, STACKED UP IN, IN KIND OF A VISUAL WAY. 
          BUT WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE THE RAW SCORES THAT MAKE UP THESE, UM, TOTAL SCORES FOR EACH OF THE 10 PORTFOLIOS. 
          AND THOSE RAW SCORES PROVIDE THE ABSOLUTE VALUE FOR UNIT COSTS AND THEN THE WATER SUPPLY RELIABILITY, UH, COMPONENT. 
          PERFECT. 
          MM-HMM, . 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE STRATEGIES SEEMS TO BE THE, THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THE DECKER OFF LAKE CHANNEL VERSUS THE, THE NEW OFF CHANNEL. 
          UM, WHICH I ASSUME BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LADY BIRD LAKE VERSUS DECKER IN TERMS OF WHERE THAT OFF CHANNEL WOULD BE. 
          SO IN, IN WATER FOUR 18, THERE WAS A NEW OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR THAT WAS INCLUDED, AND THAT WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR SEPARATE FROM THE EXISTING LAKES THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN OWNS OR OPERATES. 
          SO THAT, THAT WAS INCLUDED AS A 2070 STRATEGY QUITE FAR OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          RATHER THAN INCLUDING THAT WITHIN THE WATER 4 24 UPDATE, WE HAVE, UH, ADJUSTED OUR APPROACH TO MAKE USE OF LAKE WALTER ELONG AS AN OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR THAT WOULD TAKE WATER FROM THE COLORADO RIVER, UM, AND OUR EXISTING WATER RIGHTS WHEN THAT WATER IS AVAILABLE. 
          AND THEN STORE THAT, UH, WE WOULD BE OPERATING THAT LAKE WITHIN A LIMITED OPERATING RANGE ABOUT FIVE FEET DURING DROUGHT CONDITIONS, SEEKING TO MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          VERY INTERESTING. 
          UM, SEPARATELY, THE, THE LAST ITEM THERE, THE CONVENTIONAL GROUNDWATER, WOULD THAT JUST BE ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS WITH LCRA TO PURCHASE MORE WATER? THERE'S ANOTHER LINE ITEM IN HERE THAT'S A NEW COLORADO RIVER SUPPLY. 
          IT'S ABOUT, OH YEAH, THERE, IT'S, UH, UH, TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN THAT LIST. 
          THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS WITH THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY FOR WATER. 
          THE BOTTOM ITEM CONVENTIONAL GROUNDWATER WOULD BE, AND IT'S NOT INCLUDED WITHIN OUR WATER 4 24 RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THAT WAS EVALUATED AS, UM, THE USE OF NATIVE GROUNDWATER, EXTRACTION OF NATIVE GROUNDWATER FROM A WELL FIELD SOMEWHERE, UM, WHERE THAT GROUNDWATER WOULD BE AVAILABLE, AND THEN TREATING THAT FOR USE OF PORTABLE DRINKING WATER. 
          AND DO WE HAVE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR STORAGE, WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF, UM, I ASSUME 
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IT'D BE MORE SURFACE LEVEL STORAGE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE AQUIFER STORAGE COMPONENT YET, SO WHAT IS OUR, EITHER BY VOLUME OR, OR I HAVE NO CONCEPT OF OUR CURRENT STORAGE. 
          SURE. 
          CAPACITY. 
          SO WE CURRENTLY, UM, DO NOT HAVE ANY STORAGE RESERVOIRS OR SURFACE WATER RESERVOIRS THAT, UM, WE AS A UTILITY ARE, UM, UH, OWN AND OPERATE BEYOND THE USE OF, UM, LADY BIRD LAKE AND OPERATIONS OF LADY BIRD LAKE TO POTENTIALLY AUGMENT IN THE FUTURE WATER SUPPLIES. 
          AND THAT'LL REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE WATER FROM LADY BIRD LAKE AND MOVE THAT TO A WATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          RIGHT NOW OUR WATER SUPPLIES ARE MADE UP OF, UM, STATE GRANTED WATER RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE TO WATER THAT RUNS THROUGH THE COLORADO RIVER AS WELL AS A CONTRACT FOR STORED WATER WITHIN LAKES, TRAVIS AND BUCHANAN. 
          WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT WITH LCRA. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THE, THE BACKUP TO OUR WATER RIGHTS IS THAT CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH LCRA AND THE STORED WATER IN THE HIGHLAND LAKES. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JUST A COUPLE OTHERS HERE ON, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE WATER CONSERVATION GOALS SIMILAR TO BEFORE, I WAS HOPING YOU COULD PUT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS INTO CONTEXT. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE FROM A 123 TO 121 FOR OUR 2029 GOAL. 
          IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THAT, A 119 GOAL THAT WE HAD FROM 2024, IF Y'ALL COULD JUST PROVIDE, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH MORE WATER WE WOULD BE SAVING? YOU KNOW, IF WE ACHIEVED THAT, HOW MUCH FROM A VOLUMETRIC STANDPOINT WOULD WE BE SAVING? UM, SYSTEMATIC, UH, I, KEVIN KLUGE WATER CONSERVATION MANAGER, UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. 
          WE CAN SEND YOU THE NUMBER IN TERMS OF GALLONS, WHAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE, UM, IF WE WENT FROM 1 21 TO ONE 19? UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT WE CONSIDER WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE GOALS AND WE CONSIDER CHANGING THEM. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE CONSIDERED WHAT WE DIDN'T MAKE LAST TIME, AND THERE IS A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T MAKE THE GOALS FROM LAST TIME THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN SETTING THESE GOALS FORWARD. 
          UM, A COUPLE OTHER POINTS IS, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE NO LONGER INDEPENDENT. 
          UM, THEY'RE NOT JUST IN THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN AS A GOAL. 
          UM, AS, AS, UH, DIRECTOR ROLSON, AND I THINK MARISA MENTIONED, THESE ARE NOW INTEGRATED INTO THE WATER FOR TASK FORCE. 
          SO THOSE VOLUMETRIC NUMBERS FOR 1 1 21 IN FIVE YEARS, WERE PUT INTO THE WATER FORD MODEL AND THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA SAVE GOING OUT INTO THE FUTURE AND WHEN WE NEED TO START BRINGING ON THOSE ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES. 
          SO THEY ARE NOT, UM, THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NO LONGER AN INDEPENDENT NUMBER. 
          IT'S, IT'S ROLLED INTO OUR, OUR LARGER PLANNING. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO AS SHAY MENTIONED, THESE ARE CONSIDERED STRETCH GOALS AND WE WANT TO STRETCH, WE WANT TO TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS WE WANT 'CAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THESE ARE CRITICAL EFFORTS. 
          UM, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE COGNIZANT THAT IN ANY TIME WE HAVE ANY CRITICAL PLANNING, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BRIDGES, TREATMENT PLANS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE DON'T WANNA STRETCH OUR GOALS TOO FAR. 
          UM, WE'RE TAKING THESE VERY SERIOUSLY AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SET AT A LEVEL A, A GOAL THAT WE BELIEVE WE CAN MATCH. 
          SURE. 
          AND I, AND I GET THAT AND APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK ALWAYS WHEN WE'RE SETTING GOALS, RIGHT, WE DO WANT TO PUSH, WE ALSO, THERE IS A BALANCE OF IF, IF YOU HAVE A, A VERY AGGRESSIVE GOAL, RIGHT? THAT MIGHT PUT THINGS ON THE MENU THAT WEREN'T ON THE MENU BEFORE. 
          UH, I JUST GOT BACK FROM SAN ANTONIO LAST WEEKEND, A FRIEND OF MINE WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, NOW WITH THEIR METERS, WHEN SOMEONE'S WATERING THEIR LAWN ON NOT THE RIGHT DAY, THAT METER TELLS THE WATER UTILITY AND THEY'RE OUT THERE EITHER GIVING YOU A FINE OR UM, TAKING CORRECTIVE ACTION. 
          RIGHT? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO FROM A METER PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? WE HAVE OTHER ENFORCEMENT, BUT I THINK WHEN WE START DECIDING HOW HARD WE WANT TO PUSH IT, JUST, YOU KNOW, TO THE MAYOR PRO TEMPS POINT ABOUT THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON HUMAN BEHAVIOR. 
          YOU, WE CAN SAY WHATEVER WE WANT ALL DAY LONG, BUT UNTIL HUMANS CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR, AND I HARKEN BACK TO WHEN I WAS AT UT, UM, ANYBODY FAMILIAR WITH PARKING TRANSPORTATION SERVICES KNOW THEY ARE UNDEFEATED, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU PARK IN A SPOT, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK, THEY'RE GONNA CATCH YOU, THEY'RE GONNA FIND YOU. 
          AND, AND THAT'S JUST PART OF IT. 
          AND SO THAT CHANGES WHERE YOU PARK ON CAMPUS. 
          AND 
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SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO AFFECT HUMAN BEHAVIOR IF WE'RE WILLING TO PUSH TO AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT'S JUST THE BALANCE I'M TRYING TO, TO MAKE IN TERMS OF HOW HARD WE WANNA PUSH, HOW AGGRESSIVE DO WE WANT TO BE PUBLICLY, UH, IN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO DO WHAT WE ALL WANT AND NEED THEM TO DO. 
          AND THAT KIND OF BRINGS ME TO THE, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN, LARGER DOCUMENT, WHEN WE GET TO THE CUSTOMER PROGRAMS AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE UTILIZATION AND WHERE WE'RE HAVING SUCCESS AND WHERE WE'RE MAYBE NOT HAVING SOME SUCCESS. 
          UM, THIS IS A BROADER CONVERSATION THAN TODAY, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS AND REALLY IN SOME INSTANCES DECIDE IF THE JUICE IS WORTH THE SQUEEZE. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU HAVE STAFF ADMINISTERING SOME OF, ADMINISTERING SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OF PARTICIPANTS IN A YEAR. 
          IS THAT WORTH IT? SHOULD WE DEPLOY THAT, THOSE STAFF TO DO OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING MORE, MORE SUCCESSFUL? SHOULD WE RETHINK THESE PROGRAMS? UM, YOU KNOW, I I I LOVE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING NEW THINGS AND, AND PUSHING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. 
          BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE WORTH CONTINUING OR, OR MAYBE EXPLORING NEW OPTIONS. 
          SO, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL THEN HELP US POTENTIALLY GET TO SOME OF THESE GOALS OR, OR EVEN EXCEEDING THEM. 
          I'LL JUST ADD ONE POINT THAT, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE MY TAKES WATER SYSTEM IS BEING FULLY DEPLOYED THIS YEAR AND WE REALLY SEE IT AS MAYBE NOT GOING TOO FAR, ALMOST A PARADIGM SHIFT IN TERMS OF POSSIBILITY. 
          AND WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THIS NEW PLAN, LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN ENGAGE RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS, BOTH FOR NEW INCENTIVES AND HOW THEY MAY SAVE WATER AND REDUCE LEAKS BY SIGNING UP FOR ALERTS, BUT ALSO ENGAGING CUSTOMERS REGARDING THE IRRIGATION AND IRRIGATING OFF SCHEDULE. 
          AND JUST AS EQUALLY, I THINK THERE'S GREAT POTENTIAL IN TERMS OF ENGAGING WITH THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS USING THE MY TX WATER. 
          SO THAT'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          WE'RE HOPING TO GATHER THE DATA AND THE PROCESSES AND EVEN LOOK INTO THE TOPICS OF WATER BUDGETING, UM, AND BENCHMARKING. 
          MM-HMM,  AFTER WE, AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF GATHERING THIS INFORMATION AND THIS EXPERIENCE. 
          SO YOU'RE RIGHT ON THERE. 
          WELL, THANK YOU YOUR HONOR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON ALTER, DID YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS? I DID. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER RYAN ALTER. 
          UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, CONGRATULATIONS FOR GETTING TO THIS POINT. 
          UM, AND THROUGH THE COMMISSIONS, UM, I'M HOPING THE OTHER UTILITY CAN CAN MANAGE THE SAME, THE SAME FEE, UM, FOR OUR OTHER PLAN. 
          UM, SO YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT WATER FORWARD AS A, AS A PLAN IS THE ADAPTIVE ASPECTS OF IT. 
          UM, AND I THINK IN, IN WHAT YOU PRESENTED TODAY AND WHAT IS IN THE PLAN, UM, THIS TIME AROUND, I HAVE A CLEARER SENSE OF WHAT'S ON THE FIVE YEAR HORIZON THAN I DO ON THE LONGER HORIZON. 
          UM, I THINK WHEN WE DID THE FIRST ITERATION, WE HAD A LOT, LOT MORE CHARTS OF LIKE, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING SORT OF WHEN, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, AND, AND THERE'S A BALANCE, BUT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME VERY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT, UM, THAT HAD TO HAVE VERY SPECIFIC TIMETABLES 'CAUSE THEY INVOLVED THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, IS THERE A ANALOG IN THIS FOR THAT LONGER TIME HORIZON? OR IS IT, 'CAUSE IT JUST SEEMS, BUT SO MUCH OF IT IS THE FIVE YEAR PIECE OF IT IS, ARE WE JUST IN A DIFFERENT PLACE NOW 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE IT FOR FIVE YEARS, OR, OR, OR, OR HOW DO I UNDERSTAND THAT SWITCH? SO LAST TIME AROUND, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE 20 YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED. 
          I THINK IT, WITHIN THIS UPDATE TO THE PLAN, WE REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE NEAR TERM, UH, COURSE CORRECTIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON THE SUCCESS OR THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE SEEING FROM VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND POLICIES AND OUR ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHY WE FOCUSED MORE ON THE FIVE YEAR AND THE, UM, MORE REAL TIME TRACKING AND REPORTING AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, SO THAT WE COULD ACHIEVE, YOU KNOW, THE LONGER TERM GOALS. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALSO FIVE YEARS DOWN THE LINE AND MANY OF THE PROJECTS AND STRATEGIES WITHIN THE WATER FORWARD PLAN ARE JUST NOW CLOSER 
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IN TIME. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, THE FUTURE, WELL WE HAVE FUTURE PHASES POTENTIALLY OF THE ONSITE REUSE, UM, STRATEGIES, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          THOSE ARE KIND OF NOW BAKED IN TO SOME OF OUR STRATEGIES AND OUR JUST KIND OF EXPECTATIONS WHERE PREVIOUSLY THE 20 YEAR SCHEDULE HAD US LOOKING, UH, FURTHER OUT AT USE OF THINGS LIKE WATER BUDGETING OR EXPANSION OF OUR ONSITE REUSE REQUIREMENTS. 
          NOW TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS, WE'VE REALLY JUST BAKED IN SOME OF THOSE MORE EXPANSIVE KIND OF VISIONS OF THE STRATEGIES INTO THE BASELINE OF WHAT WE WOULD WANT THOSE STRATEGIES TO. 
          UM, I THINK THAT OUR FIVE YEAR UPDATES, WE'LL JUST KEEP, UH, SETTING THOSE FIVE-YEAR MILESTONES AND, AND REALLY BREAKING UP THIS HUGE PLAN INTO VERY ACTIONABLE GOALS THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE AND MAKE STEADY PROGRESS TOWARDS GETTING IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE STRATEGIES TO WHERE WE NEED THEM TO BE TO ACHIEVE THESE YIELDS. 
          AS YOU MENTIONED, LIKE THESE ARE VERY, UM, BIG GOALS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET. 
          EVEN WITH THE, THE YIELDS, THE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET WITHIN THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ALL OF THE SAVINGS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE WATER FORWARD PLAN TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE KEEPING UP WITH THESE FIVE YEAR UPDATES AND THEN COURSE CORRECTING AS WE NEED TO, BECAUSE IF WE ARE NOT MAKING THOSE, WE HAVE TO MAKE UP THE WATER SOMEHOW. 
          WE'RE GONNA NEED IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          WE'RE GONNA NEED THIS CONSERVATION REUSE AND SUPPLIES SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          UM, SO PART OF THE REASON I WAS THANK YOU. 
          UM, PART OF THE REASON I WAS ASKING IS, UM, UM, I THINK THIS IS PART OF WHERE, WHERE COUNCILMAN ORION OFFICERS FIRST QUESTION CAME FROM WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE SCALE FOR THE COSTS MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, SO LIKE HOW MUCH DOES PLAN THREE OR PORTFOLIO OF SIX, I GUESS IS THE ONE WE LANDED ON, HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST AND WHAT IS THE TIME HORIZON FOR THAT? SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE DETAILS OF HOW MUCH THE OVERALL PORTFOLIO COSTS WERE. 
          I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST BECAUSE THE, UH, THE, WHILE THE CONSERVATION AND REUSE STRATEGIES ARE KIND OF OUR MOST, UH, SOMETIMES OUR MOST AFFORDABLE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AMOUNT OF YIELD THAT YOU GET, THOSE ARE INCLUDED WITHIN ALL OF THE PORTFOLIOS. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT A BIG DIFFERENTIATOR BETWEEN PORTFOLIOS. 
          THE BIGGEST DIFFERENTIATOR IS THE SUPPLY STRATEGIES AND WE'VE TRIED TO BALANCE, FIND A BALANCE BETWEEN RELIABILITY OF SUPPLIES WITH THE ULTIMATE COST OF THE SUPPLIES. 
          UM, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT THE OVERALL TOTAL COST IS, BUT YOU KNOW, OVER THE FULL, LET'S SAY OVER A 50 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON, THE FIRST 50 YEARS IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE SEVERAL BILLION DOLLARS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I'M JUST LIKE, I DON'T, LIKE I HAVE NUMBERS HERE, WHICH I APPRECIATE FOR THE COST MM-HMM. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IF I, IF I GO TO THE ONES THAT ARE NOT THE FUTURE SUPPLY, UM, LEMME JUST PICK ONE. 
          DECENTRALIZED RECLAIM IS A CAPITAL COST OF 138 MILLION WITH LAND IS 215. 
          LIKE ARE WE TALKING THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE FIVE YEARS OR IS THAT OVER? OH, I SEE TIME. 
          LIKE, LIKE MM-HMM. 
          , IF WE AGREE TO THIS AND WE SAY WE LIKE THESE STRATEGIES FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO AND WE'RE ALLOWING YOU TO PLAN FOR THE REST, HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING OVER THE FIVE YEARS? WE CAN DEFINITELY, AND DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT IN ANY SENSE OF WHAT, UM, THIS MEANS FOR RATE PAYERS AND OBVIOUSLY NOT HAVING THE WATERS WORSE, BUT MM-HMM. 
           IT, IT JUST WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE COSTS. 
          YES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY FOLLOW UP ON WHAT THE COSTS LOOK LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE UM, YEARS, AND THEN WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH SOME INFORMATION ON HOW THAT'S INCORPORATED INTO OUR, UM, BUDGET. 
          THANKS. 
          BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA PROVE A PLAN AND BE LIKE, OH, WE CAN'T FUND IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING SIDE OF IT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I'LL SAY TOO THAT, UM, AS MARISA MENTIONED, THE UM, UH, A LOT OF THESE STRATEGIES ARE ONES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON, AND SO THEY, THE COST FOR THOSE ARE BUILT INTO OUR CIP NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK FOR AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE AN ONGOING PROJECT. 
          IT IS BUDGETED, IT IS INCLUDED IN OUR CIP THAT COUNCIL APPROVED, UM, THAT WENT INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER 1ST. 
          AND SO WE'RE CONTINUALLY PROGRAMMING THESE COSTS, UM, INTO OUR CAPITAL BUDGET. 
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OKAY. 
          SO THEN IF, IF YOU CAN, ALONG WITH WHAT YOU THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE COSTS, IF YOU CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT ALREADY CAPTURED IN OUR PLANS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE FIGURING OUT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, PERSPECTIVE. 
          UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE, SO FOR THE WATER CONSERVATION LAND, UM, IT BASICALLY ENDS WITH LIKE BUY THESE LANDS, WHICH I TOTALLY AGREE WITH AND WERE OUT OF MONEY OTHER THAN THE, UM, FUNDING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BRIAN ALTER SECURED, BUT LIKE, WHAT DO WE ESTIMATE IT WOULD COST, LIKE IF WE WERE TO, TO PURCHASE THE LAND THAT WE NEED FOR THE CONSERVATION, THE COLORADO RIVER LAND ANALYSIS? YEAH. 
          DO WE HAVE A COST ESTIMATE FOR THAT, SHERRY? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          SO WE'RE IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF DEVELOPING THE ANALYSIS FOR WHAT PROPERTIES WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL TO CONSERVE, AND THEN THAT WOULD FEED INTO THE, UM, THE, THE BUDGETING FOR THAT LAND ACQUISITION. 
          AND, AND I, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, LAND CONSERVATION, UH, WORK ALREADY UNDERWAY WITH THE WATER QUALITY PROTECTION LANDS AND THE BALCONES CANYON LAND PRESERVE. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT WORK. 
          SO THERE'S NO, UM, WE ABSOLUTELY INTEND TO CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE BOND AND THE CLIMATE PORTION OF THE BOND THAT'S COMING FORWARD. 
          UM, AND THAT AS YOU DEVELOP THAT, YOU ALSO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING THE FOOD PLAN BECAUSE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO THE REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU'RE CONSERVING THESE LANDS. 
          UM, AND WE CAN ACCOMPLISH MULTIPLE THINGS AND YOU MAY HAVE VEHICLES THAT ALLOW US TO PURCHASE IT, BUT, BUT THEY MAY NOT. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE A, A, A USEFUL DIRECTION. 
          AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO ASK IS ABOUT THE, UM, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A NEW ENVIRONMENT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UM, AND WE HAVE A CONTINUING ONE AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          UM, BUT WITH RESPECT TO WATER, MY SENSE IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME STEPS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          WE HAVE THE LOWER COST LOANS, UM, THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE FOR THE ENERGY PIECES. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A WATER, UM, WORKING GROUP, UM, DURING THE OFF SESSION. 
          SO ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA? WE'RE GONNA BE ADOPTING THAT SOON NEXT WEEK. 
          SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THE IGRO, UM, ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT AFFECT WATER. 
          THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST AT THE STATE CAPITAL AROUND, UM, WATER SUPPLY PLANNING AND THE UPCOMING, UM, LEGISLATURE. 
          UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TWICE IN SEPTEMBER TO, UM, TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY TO HOUSE AND SENATE COMMITTEES ON RECLAIMED WATER AND ONSITE WATER REUSE AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SENATE BILL 1289, WHICH I CAN, UM, GET INTO IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          BUT, UH, IS ESSENTIALLY AROUND, UM, PRIVATE SIDE RECLAIMED USE IN OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT THAT. 
          AND, UM, AND SO WE, WE CONTINUE TO, UM, ENGAGE THROUGH THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATION OFFICE OF THE CITY, UM, IN WHAT I THINK ARE REALLY PRODUCTIVE WAYS. 
          UM, WE ALSO, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE WITHIN AUSTIN WATER THAT LOOKS AT THE VARIOUS FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE PRIMARILY LOW INTEREST LOANS PROVIDED EITHER THROUGH THE STATE REVOLVING FUND. 
          UM, WE ARE IN, UM, DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW WITH EPA ON WIA LOAN FOR THE WALNUT CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PROJECT. 
          UH, AND SO WE'RE, UM, CONSTANTLY EVALUATING THOSE LOW INTEREST LOAN OPPORTUNITIES AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH USING THOSE LOANS, UM, AS PART OF OUR PORTFOLIO OF, OF FUNDING STRATEGIES AND UM, AND DEBT MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE HAVE, UM, AN ITEM TO APPROVE IN FRONT OF US, AND IT'S IN THE FORM OF WHAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, A RESOLUTION. 
          IF YOU ALL WOULD JUMP TO THE SECOND PAGE, UH, FOR THE MOTION. 
          UM, AND THIS WILL GO ON TO THE NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024 COUNSEL AGENDA. 
          UM, DIRECTOR ROLSON, THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL ARE 
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LOOKING FOR US TO APPROVE HERE TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT. 
          CAN I JUST ASK THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION, I JUST HAVE THE ITEM. 
          SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL THAT UP AND MAYBE WE CAN DO THE NEXT THING AND COME BACK TO THAT. 
          UNLESS IT'S IN THE PACKET. 
          IS IT IN THE PACKET? WHERE IS IT? UM, WHERE IS IT POSTED? UM, I'LL ASK MS. PHILLIPS TO GET COPIES FOR EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. 
          IT'S, UM, AND THEN I'LL READ THEM WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THEM INTO THE RECORD. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY LONG. 
          SO, UM, IS IT ON THE LOST AND WATER PAGE OR IS IT, YEAH, SO WHILE, UH, OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. 
          UH, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ON THE NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024 COUNCIL AGENDA. 
          UH, AND THEN THE ITEMS ARE NUMBERED AS THEY WILL APPEAR ON, UH, THE AGENDA THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED. 
          SO ITEM NUMBER THREE, APPROVE ADOPTION OF WATER FORWARD 2024 AUSTIN'S INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES CONSERVATION, REUSE, AND SUPPLY STRATEGIES, AND AN ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK TO RESPOND TO CHANGING CONDITIONS TO MEET AUSTIN'S WATER NEEDS FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS. 
          ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION, REPEALING RESOLUTION 20 24 0 5 0 2 DASH OH FIVE, WHICH ADOPTED THE PRIOR WATER CONSERVATION PLAN FOR A MUNICIPAL AND WHOLESALE WATER USE. 
          AND ADOPTING AN UPDATED WATER CONSERVATION PLAN, WHICH DESCRIBES AUSTIN WATER'S ONGOING WATER CONSERVATION STRATEGIES, PROGRAMS AND GOALS AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. 
          ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVE A RESOLUTION, REPEALING RESOLUTION 20 24 0 5 0 2 DASH OH OH FOUR, WHICH ADOPTED REVISED DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN AND ADOPTING AN UPDATED DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES DROUGHT OR EMERGENCY RESPONSE STAGES DUE TO WATER SUPPLY, UH, SHORTAGES, SETS, TARGETS FOR WATER USE REDUCTION AND OTHER ELEMENTS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. 
          AND THE FOURTH ITEM, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA. 
          ITEM NUMBER SIX, APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CITY CODE CHAPTER SIX DASH FOUR WATER CONSERVATION TO PROVIDE FOR NEW WATER RESTRICTIONS FOR DRIP IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. CREATE EXEMPTIONS FROM CERTAIN WATER CONSERVATION AND DROUGHT RESPONSE REGULATIONS RELATED TO DRIP IRRIGATION. 
          PROVIDE FOR THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF SPLASH PADS DURING CERTAIN DROUGHT RESPONSE STAGES AND ENACT OTHER RELATED PROVISIONS. 
          AND COLLEAGUES, YOU'LL RECOGNIZE THESE ITEMS AS HAVING BEEN BRIEFED TO US IN, UH, THE PRESENTATIONS, EXCUSE ME, WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. 
          SO THAT'S THE MOTION. 
          WOULD ONE OF YOU LIKE TO, UM, WELL FIRST WE CAN DISCUSS IT. 
          DOES ANYBODY YOU WANT? OKAY. 
          I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON ALTER WILL SECOND THE MOTION. 
          ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR ADJUSTMENTS, AMENDMENTS OR OBJECTIONS TO THESE FOUR ITEMS? I THINK WE CAN ADOPT ALL FOUR OF THEM AS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL IN ONE MOTION AND SEEING NONE, UH, IT IS SO ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY ON A DAIS AND THIS REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR OUR AUSTIN WATER UTILITY. 
          I WANT TO THANK ALL THE STAFF FOR THE DILIGENCE AND THE, UH, PERSEVERANCE AND FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS. 
          THERE WILL BE MORE QUESTIONS, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE ENGAGEMENT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL ON THE 21ST AND HOPE FOR A POSITIVE RESPONSE. 
          I DID JUST WANNA GET ONE CLARIFICATION, IF I MIGHT. 
          SURE. 
          GO RIGHT AHEAD. 
          IF ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED ABOUT THE COST AND WHATEVER, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THOSE IN ADVANCE OF NEXT WEEK. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT. 
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YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE MADE FOR BETTER PLANS. 
          THIS ONE WAS A LONG TIME. 
          COMING WATER FORWARD HAS BEEN A REALLY IMPORTANT, UH, GOAL FOR THIS COUNCIL AND I'M GLAD, UH, THAT WE'RE CLOSE TO SEEING THE DAY NOVEMBER 21. 
          THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. 
          OKAY, WE WILL GO NOW TO BRIEFINGS. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FOUR BRIEFINGS. 
          IT'S 2 25. 
          HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE THROUGH THESE EXPEDITIOUSLY AND GET, UH, GOOD PRESENTATIONS AND Y'ALL WILL HAVE TIME FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          AND WE'LL KICK 
          [4. Director’s report on Austin Water’s current events, operational readiness, regulatory updates, recognitions and awards, recruiting and retention, and upcoming recommendations for Council action.]
IT OFF WITH, UH, THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT ON AUSTIN WATER'S CURRENT EVENTS, OPERATIONAL READINESS, REGULATORY UPDATES, RECOGNITION AND AWARDS, RECRUITING AND RETENTION, AND UPCOMING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL ACTION DIRECTOR ROLSON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU SOME UPDATES ON ACTIVITIES AT AUSTIN WATER BEYOND THE SPECIFIC ITEMS, UM, WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY ON THE AGENDA. 
          UM, I'LL START WITH A DROUGHT UPDATE. 
          UH, JULY'S RAINS BROUGHT WELCOME RELIEF AND A BUMP IN THE LAKE LEVELS. 
          UM, BUT LEVELS HAVE CONTINUED TO DECLINE SINCE THEN. 
          AS OF YESTERDAY, COMBINED STORAGE IN LAKES BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS IS AT 53% WITH TRAVIS AT 46%. 
          SO WE CONTINUE TO BE IN STAGE TWO DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS AND OUR WATER CONSERVATION TEAM CONTINUES TO EDUCATE AND ALERT CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, LEADING INTO THE CITY'S BUDGET ADOPTION PROCESS, AUSTIN WATER COMPLETED OUR COST OF SERVICE STUDY. 
          THIS IS A PROCESS WE FOLLOW EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS TO UPDATE OUR RATES SPECIFIC TO EACH OF OUR CUSTOMER CLASSES. 
          WE CONDUCTED 10 OPEN HOUSES IN PERSON, ONE VIRTUAL AS WELL AS FOCUS GROUPS. 
          WE HELD A SERIES OF MEETINGS WITH OUR PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED DETAILED DATA-DRIVEN DISCUSSIONS ON OUR RATE DESIGN. 
          WE INCORPORATED FEEDBACK FROM THOSE SESSIONS AND ACHIEVED CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT FOR OUR PROPOSED RATES, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO IMPROVE SYSTEM RESILIENCY, KEEP PACE WITH A GROWING POPULATION, AND OPTIMIZE OUR SYSTEM. 
          UM, WE ADOPTED RATES, UH, THAT COVER COST OF SERVICE FOR ALL RATE CLASSES EXCEPT RESIDENTIAL, WHICH WE'LL SEE RATE INCREASES PHASED IN OVER TIME. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND FUND OUR CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH OFFERS A DISCOUNT OF APPRO APPROXIMATELY HALF. 
          FOR ENROLLED CUSTOMERS. 
          WE CONTINUE TO USE A TIERED RATE STRUCTURE TO ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION. 
          AND THROUGH THE MY A TX WATER PROGRAM, CUSTOMERS HAVE NEAR REALTIME DATA ON THEIR WATER USE AND WE'VE SEEN WATERS, WE'VE SEEN CUSTOMERS ADJUST THEIR WATER USE TO AVOID GOING INTO THE NEXT TIER OF RATES. 
          UM, AND THE RATING AGENCIES RESPONDED FAVORABLY AND AFFIRMED OUR EXCELLENT CREDIT RATINGS. 
          UH, AND WE ALSO HAD SUCCESSFUL BOND SALES AND DEBT DFE TRANSACTIONS PUTTING US IN A VERY GOOD POSITION TO FUND OUR VERY AMBITIOUS CIP PROGRAM. 
          WE CONTINUE TO DELIVER HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO MAINTAIN OUR SERVICE LEVELS. 
          IN FISCAL YEAR 24, WE DELIVERED $305 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS A RECORD INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE RENEWAL AND SYSTEM RESILIENCY. 
          UM, SOME OF THAT COST NUMBER IS DRIVEN BY INFLATION, BUT MOSTLY IT'S A REFLECTION ON THE HIGH PERFORMING TEAMS AT AUSTIN WATER AND THE CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND OUR ON OPERATIONAL READINESS. 
          OUR TEAMS CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON READINESS AND ALL TEAMS ARE REPORTING THAT WINTER WEATHER PREPARATIONS ARE COMPLETE. 
          POWER RESILIENCY IS A MAJOR FOCUS FOR US AND WE CONTINUE TO ADD TO OUR FLEET OF PORTABLE GENERATORS, INCLUDING A NEW PAIR OF 550 KILOWATT GENERATORS AND MATCHING TRAILER MOUNTED TRANSFORMERS THAT CAN BE DEPLOYED SEPARATELY OR PAIRED TO POWER OUR LARGER PUMP STATIONS. 
          AGAIN, THIS WINTER, AS WE DID LAST YEAR, WE ARE DEPLOYING A RENTAL GENERATOR AT THE DAVIS LANE PUMP STATION, WHICH SERVES SOUTHWEST AUSTIN. 
          AND THAT GENERATOR WILL BE IN PLACE FROM DECEMBER THROUGH MARCH. 
          AUSTIN ENERGY IS CONDUCTING A MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT AT THE B CREEK SUBSTATION, WHICH POWERS THE ULRICH WATER TREATMENT PLANT TO SUPPORT THAT WORK. 
          WE HAVE DEPLOYED A FLEET OF RENTAL GENERATORS TO MAINTAIN BACKUP POWER TO ULRICH UNTIL THAT WORK CAN BE COMPLETED. 
          AND OUR ELECTRICAL SERVICES TEAM HAS COMMISSIONED TWO NEW EMERGENCY RESPONSE TRAILERS, WHICH CAN BE QUICKLY DEPLOYED TO POWER AND CONTROL LIFT STATIONS WHEN THEIR GEAR IS DAMAGED BY FLOODING OR EQUIPMENT FAILURES. 
          OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM SUPPORTED SEVERAL ACTIVATIONS OF OUR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM, INCLUDING THE PLANNED ACTIVATION FOR THE REPAIR TO A LEAKING 48 INCH MAINE AT THE DAVIS LANE PUMP STATION, AS WELL AS THE 48 INCH MAIN FAILURE AT SPICEWOOD SPRINGS AND LOOP 360. 
          BOTH OF THESE REPAIRS WERE SUCCESSFUL IN LARGE PART DUE TO OUR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH OUR CUSTOMERS THROUGH THE MY A TX WATER PORTAL AND OUR CUSTOMER'S RESPONSE TO OUR CALLS FOR CONSERVATION ON THE TOPIC OF REGULATORY UPDATES, SIGNIFICANT REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS WENT INTO EFFECT THIS YEAR, INCLUDING THE LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY AFTER A MULTI-YEAR 
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EFFORT TO COMPLETE OUR INVENTORY. 
          AND THANKS TO THE DILIGENT EFFORTS OF OUR PREDECESSORS AT AUSTIN WATER OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, WE HAVE NO LEAD PIPES IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE ABOUT 800 GALVANIZED STEEL PRIVATE SIDE SERVICE LINES THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, AND WE'RE INITIATING OUR PROGRAM, A PROGRAM WITH OUR CUSTOMERS TO HELP THEM DO THAT ON RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS. 
          AUSTIN WATER STAFF CONTINUE TO BE INDUSTRY LEADERS IN NUMEROUS AREAS. 
          A FEW HIGHLIGHTS SINCE THE LAST A WALK MEETING IN MAY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ANNA O'BRIEN BOHA PARTICIPATED IN THE UPDATE TO THE EFFECTIVE UTILITY MANAGEMENT PRIMER. 
          AUSTIN WATER IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE A MI, THE, UH, AUTOMATED METER, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PRIMER, WHICH IS PUBLISHED BY THE ALLIANCE FOR WATER EFFICIENCY EMERGENCY MANAGER, RICK BEMAN HAS BEEN TAPPED TO SERVE ON THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION'S RISK AND RESILIENCY COMMITTEE. 
          OUR WILDLANDS CONSERVATION TEAM PARTICIPATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PRESCRIBED BURN GUIDE BY THE FIRE CONSORTIUM LABORATORY SUPERVISOR. 
          TRINITY O'NEILL AND HER TEAM ORGANIZED AND HOSTED THE FIRST ANNUAL WATER QUALITY LABORATORY CONFERENCE HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          SUPERVISING ENGINEER CATHERINE HINKY AND THE WATER REUSE TEAM HOSTED AND HELPED PLAN THE TEXAS WATER REUSE ANNUAL CONFERENCE AND MADE SEVERAL PRESENTATION AND CONDUCTED TOURS OF OUR FACILITIES AT THAT CONFERENCE. 
          AUSTIN WATER WAS HONORED WITH THE 2024 TEXAS IMPACT AWARD FOR THE GO PURPLE PROGRAM THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED IN APRIL. 
          UM, AND THAT PROGRAM WAS ALSO ACCEPTED FOR A PANEL DISCUSSION AT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST NEXT SPRING. 
          UM, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I PROVIDE TESTIMONY ON OUR RECLAIM PROGRAM TO COMMITTEES OF THE TEXAS HOUSE AND SENATE ON INNOVATION. 
          WE CONTINUE TO PUSH THE BOUNDARIES. 
          UM, COUNCIL APPROVED THE LITTLE BEAR CREEK AQUIFER RECHARGE PROJECT, WHICH WILL DIVERT FLOOD WATER FROM THE CREEK INTO AN OLD QUARRY WHERE IT WILL DIRECTLY RECHARGE BARTON SPRINGS. 
          THIS PROJECT WAS FOUNDED ON MORE THAN TWO DECADES OF RESEARCH BY AUSTIN WATER AND WATERSHED PROTECTION, AND WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE WATER QUALITY PROTECTION LANDS, WHICH PROTECT ABOUT 40% OF THE CONTRIBUTING AREA, UM, SO THAT THE WATER THAT WE'RE DIVERTING INTO THE QUARRY IS CLEAN ENOUGH TO DO SO. 
          UM, WE ARE A LEADING CONTRIBUTOR CONTRIBUTOR FOR A NEW WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM DEVELOPED BY THE TEXAS SECTION OF THE AMERICAN WATERWORKS ASSOCIATION, WHICH WILL PROVIDE CLASSROOM TRAINING TO HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO EARN A CLASS D WATER LICENSE WHEN THEY GRADUATE. 
          UH, WE ARE TAKING, WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROGRAM. 
          WE HELP DEVELOP IT AND WE'RE TAKING IT ONE STEP FURTHER TO PAIR IT WITH AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, UM, TO PROVIDE THESE STUDENTS REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. 
          UH, THE AIRPORT HELD THEIR GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE MIDFIELD TAXIWAY PROJECT, WHICH WE'LL USE RECLAIMED WATER FOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, SAVING EIGHT TO 10 MILLION GALLONS OF DRINKING WATER PER YEAR DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT. 
          ON THE TOPIC OF RECRUITING AND RETENTION, WE ARE SEEING GREAT RESULTS FROM OUR EFFORTS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          OUR VACANCY RATE IS 8.9%, EVEN WITH THE 29 POSITIONS WE ADDED ON OCTOBER 1ST, UH, SEPARATIONS WERE 24% LOWER IN FISCAL YEAR 24 THAN THEY WERE IN FISCAL YEAR 23. 
          AND OUR KEY AREAS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE. 
          UM, OUR ELECTRICIANS AND OUR INSTRUMENTATION AND CONTROL TECHNICIANS ARE A REAL BRIGHT SPOT. 
          AT THE BEGINNING OF 23, THEY WERE AT ABOUT 40% VACANCY, AND TODAY THEY'RE AT 15%. 
          UM, OUR TREATMENT PLANTS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE. 
          UH, ULRICH TODAY IS AT SIX VACANCIES, WHICH IS 14%. 
          UH, DAVIS HAS THREE AND HANCOCK'S HAS ONE. 
          SO THEY'RE UNDER 10 AND 5% AT OUR WASTEWATER PLANTS. 
          UH, HORNSBY BEND HAS OUR, HAS OUR ATTENTION. 
          RIGHT NOW THEY'RE AT SEVEN VACANCIES, WHICH IS 23%. 
          UH, BUT THE OTHER TWO PLANTS, LARGE PLANTS, WALNUT AND SOUTH AUSTIN ARE AT TWO VACANCY AND ONE VACANCY. 
          SO A LOT OF GREAT WORK HAPPENING IN RECRUITING AND RETENTION IN OUR PLANTS, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY SEEING THE BENEFITS OF CONVERTING THE RETENTION STIPEND TO BASE PAY. 
          AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON TRAINING AN ORGANIZATIONAL CULTURE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THESE GAINS. 
          UM, UH, UPCOMING REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION. 
          WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REQUESTS COMING YOUR WAY BEFORE THE WINTER BREAK. 
          UM, WE'LL BE, UH, ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO ACCEPT FEMA GRANT FUNDING THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR A FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT TO PROTECT SOUTH AUSTIN REGIONAL WASTEWATER PLANT AND AUSTIN ENERGY, SANDHILL ENERGY CENTER. 
          THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT CLIMATE RESILIENCY PROJECT THAT'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN AUSTIN WATER, AUSTIN ENERGY TRANSPORTATION, AND PUBLIC WORKS WATERSHED PROTECTION, AND IT'S LED BY THE CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES, UH, DEPARTMENT. 
          WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL TRANSACTIONAL ITEMS RELATED TO CHEMICALS, SUPPLIES, AND SERVICES NEEDED FOR OUR DAILY OPERATIONS, 
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CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS FOR OUR BREAD AND BUTTER WORK OF RENEWING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE CITY, UH, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH OUR RENEWING AUSTIN PROGRAM OR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MOBILITY PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND WE STRIVE TO CLEARLY DEFINE THESE PROJECTS IN THE COUNCIL BACKUP MATERIALS. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR, GOOD REPORT. 
          AND, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING THE PROGRESS YOU'RE MAKING ON RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. 
          THAT'S TREMENDOUS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANKS FOR THE CONTINUED STRONG LEADERSHIP THAT YOU BRING TO YOUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S MY HONOR. 
          THE 
          [5. Proposed updates to Water Forward 2024 (Austin’s Integrated Water Resource Plan) and Austin’s Water Conservation and Drought Contingency Plans.]
NEXT ITEM, PROPOSED UPDATES TO WATER FORWARD 2024, AND AUSTIN'S WATER CONSERVATION AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLANS BRIEFING. 
          I, I BELIEVE WE HAVE MADE THAT PRESENTATION ALREADY, UM, TO SUPPORT YOUR DISCUSSION OF YOUR ACTION ITEMS. VERY GOOD. 
          AND SO ITEM NUMBER 
          [6. Austin Water’s distribution system water loss mitigation strategies]
SIX IS AUSTIN WATERS DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WATER LOSS MITIGATION STRATEGIES. 
          AND THIS WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST FROM A COMMITTEE MEMBER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME'S MATT CULLEN. 
          I'M THE DIVISION MANAGER OF PIPELINE ENGINEERING AND OPERATION SUPPORT AT AUSTIN WATER. 
          AND SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AT AUSTIN WATER, UH, RELATED TO REDUCING WATER LOSS. 
          UM, SO I'LL GO THROUGH WHAT WE DO TO, TO LIMIT WATER LOSS AND HOW WE MEASURE THAT. 
          UH, AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT, WE HAD A REVIEW DONE, UH, BY, UM, EXPERT CONSULTANT ON WATER LOSS. 
          AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE. 
          AND THEN WE'LL SUMMARIZE AND, AND, UH, TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, ANY WATER UTILITY HAS TO DEAL WITH, WITH WATER LOSS. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LEVEL OF WATER LOSS. 
          AND AUSTIN WATER'S BEEN AWARE OF THAT AND TAKEN IT VERY SERIOUSLY FOR A LONG TIME. 
          SO WE TAKE FOLLOW INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES RELATED TO, UH, TRYING TO MINIMIZE WATER LOSS. 
          THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, RESPONDING QUICKLY TO LEAKS. 
          WE, WE REALLY DO VERY WELL ON THAT. 
          WE INVEST IN REPLACING THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, UH, IS THE LUCKIEST. 
          UH, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE A PROACTIVE, UH, LEAK DETECTION PROGRAM. 
          AND SO, DESPITE THIS, DESPITE ALL THOSE GREAT EFFORTS THAT WE HAVE, THIS HERE IS A, A GRAPH OF OUR ILI, WHICH IS, UH, DEPICTS OUR WATER LOSS. 
          AND SO OVER THE LAST DECADE, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT NUMBER INCREASING, OUR WATER LOSS IS GOING UP, UM, NOT INTO A TERRIBLE PLACE, BUT, BUT NOT WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE AND, AND CERTAINLY NOT GOING IN THE DIRECTION WE WANT 'EM TO GO. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE, DESPITE DOING ALL THESE GOOD THINGS, WANTED TO HAVE, UH, AN OUTSIDE EXPERT COME IN AND LOOK AT WHAT WE WERE DOING, UH, AND GIVE US SOME, SOME IDEAS OF, OF HOW TO IMPROVE. 
          AND SO THAT REPORT IS DONE. 
          UM, AND IT HAD ABOUT 32 RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE REPORT. 
          AND THE UTIL UTILITY IS BROUGHT TOGETHER OUR EFFECTIVE UTILITY MANAGEMENT WATER LOSS TEAM, UH, WHICH REALLY GOES ACROSS THE ENTIRE UTILITY. 
          EVERYTHING FROM OPERATIONS AND ENGINEERING TO THE PLANTS AND, AND TREATMENT AND, AND SYSTEMS PLANNING AND, AND EVEN IN FINANCE. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE TEAM TOGETHER WHO'S, UH, FOCUSING ON DELIVERING, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE BY BLACK AND VEATCH. 
          UH, IS, IS WHO DID THE, UH, THE REPORT? SO I'M GONNA HIT ON SOME OF THE, UH, MAJOR RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO LEAK DETECTION IS, IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO REDUCE, UH, WATER LOSS AND IN THEIR REVIEW INDICATED WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, OUR, WE GET THROUGH OUR SYSTEM ABOUT EVERY SIX YEARS, LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR PIPES. 
          UM, AND THROUGH THEIR CALCULATIONS, THAT'S THE RIGHT RATE TO GO THROUGH OUR SYSTEM. 
          AND SO CERTAINLY A RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          UH, IN ADDITION, WE'VE GOT A LARGE DIAMETER PROGRAM, BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS DIFFERENT, IT'S, IT, IT TAKES DIFFERENT STUFF TO, UH, DO THE LEAK DETECTION ON THE LARGE PIPES THAN THE SMALL PIPES. 
          AGAIN, THEIR RECOMMENDATION CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE WERE DOING. 
          REALLY, THE, THE SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, FOR CHANGES ON THE LEAK DETECTION SIDE IS WORKING ON SOME OF OUR CON CONTRACT REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR CONTRACT, UH, CONTRACTORS THAT DO THE LEAK DETECTION AND, UH, MANAGING THAT DATA, KIND OF LEVERAGING THE DATA MORE, MORE ANALYSIS OF THE DATA THAT WE GET FROM THE LEAK DETECTION, UM, ADDITIONAL STAFF TRAINING, UM, KIND OF REFINING WHAT WE DO AND STRENGTHENING, UH, TRAINING FOR OUR STAFF. 
          PILOTING OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH IS REALLY A THING WE ALREADY DO. 
          THE, THE INDUSTRY OF LEAK DETECTION IS 
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SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GROWING AND THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN IT. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE DONE BEFORE, BUT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO, UH, ON, ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT FRONTS. 
          UM, AND BASICALLY ALL OF THIS WRAPS UP INTO, UH, A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE WHERE WE CAN JUST STRENGTHEN WHAT WE'RE DOING RELATED TO LEAK DETECTION AND, UH, AND GET MORE OUT OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          ANOTHER BIG ITEM, OF COURSE, IS SYSTEM AND RENEWAL. 
          AND BEFORE I GET INTO THE, THE DETAILS ON THAT, WANTED TO QUICKLY GO OVER THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, UH, USING THE RIGHT TERMS. SO OUR WATER MAINS ARE THE, THE BIGGER PIPES THAT ARE OUT UNDERNEATH THE STREET AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SERVE A WHOLE BLOCK OR, OR MULTIPLE BUILDINGS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR WATER SERVICE LINES, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY ON THE, UH, ONE TO TWO INCH IN DIAMETER THAT WILL SERVE EITHER ONE HOUSE OR, OR TWO AT A TIME. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MAIN AND A SERVICE LINE. 
          AND THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, UH, FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE, UH, ASSETS. 
          SO AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE AND HAS BEEN MENTIONED SOME ALREADY TODAY, UH, WE'VE GOT OUR, UH, RENEWING AUSTIN PROGRAM THAT'S FOCUSED ON REPLACING OUR LUCKIEST MAINS, UM, PRIMARILY OUR CAST IRON PIPES. 
          UH, AND AS YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT GRAPH, UH, THAT'S UP THERE, THIS, THIS ONE TELLS A REALLY GOOD STORY. 
          UM, EVEN WHEN WE STARTED THAT, UH, WE WERE BETTER THAN THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE AND OUR, OUR BRAKES PER MILE FOR OUR, OUR MAIN LINES. 
          BUT THROUGH OUR EFFORTS AND OUR INVESTMENT IN RENEWING AUSTIN, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN A BETTER E EVEN BETTER THAN, UH, WHAT THE INDUSTRY WOULD SAY, WHERE AN OPTIMIZED UTILITY, UH, OPERATES. 
          AND SO THAT'S BEEN A GOOD STORY AND WE WANNA KEEP THAT UP. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE PIPES AREN'T GETTING YOUNGER, SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA KEEP WORKING ON THIS, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL HERE. 
          SO ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT OUR SERVICE LINES. 
          UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS GRAPH, WE'VE ABOVE THE INDUSTRY AVERAGE IN, UH, SERVICE LINE BREAKS PER THOUSAND SERVICES, UH, AND TRICKLING, UH, UPWARDS, UH, KIND OF IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. 
          UM, AND, AND WE'VE KNOWN THAT SERVICES WERE AN ISSUE AND WE'D BEEN, UH, PUTTING EFFORTS TOWARDS, UH, SOLVING THIS ISSUE. 
          BUT, UH, CLEARLY THERE, THERE HADN'T BEEN ENOUGH INVESTMENT THERE. 
          AND SO THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REPORT IS TO UP OUR INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA, UH, TO, TO GET THESE SERVICES REPLACED, UH, WITH LESS LEAKY SERVICES. 
          AND SO THIS IS DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR CIP PLANNING PROCESS RIGHT NOW, AND THE NEXT ROUND OF, UH, NEXT CIP PLAN WILL WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT, UH, TO RE UH, REPLACED EVEN MORE SERVICES THAN WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING ON REPLACING. 
          AND THEN THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS PREVIOUSLY ABOUT, UH, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE LOSE DUE TO, UH, PIPES THAT ARE HIT DURING CONSTRUCTION AND IMPACTED BY CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, AND SO THIS IS A, A QUICK PIE CHART, DELAYS SOME OUT OF, OF WHERE OUR LOSSES COME FROM. 
          UH, AND SO WHILE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE SPICEWOOD SPRING BREAK DID LOSE, YOU KNOW, UH, SEVERAL MILLION GALLONS, THAT WAS A LARGE LOSS IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS OVER A YEAR. 
          THIS DATA IS FROM OUR 2023 REPORT, UM, JUST ABOUT, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN 1%, UH, OF THE LOSSES THAT WE HAVE ARE FROM THOSE KIND OF, UH, INCIDENCES. 
          AND ABOUT 5% OF THE LOSSES COME FROM, UH, THE REPAIRS THAT WE DO. 
          AND SO, UH, FROM, FROM THOSE BREAKS THAT THEN LEAD TO REPAIRS. 
          AND SO WE TRACK, UM, UH, ALL OF THAT. 
          SO THAT'S THE 5% NUMBER. 
          AND THEN ABOUT A QUARTER, 24% IN, IN THIS DATA OF THE LOSSES ARE WHAT THE INDUSTRY WOULD CALL, UH, UNAVOIDABLE REAL LOSS. 
          THINGS THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, SOME SEEPS AT JOINTS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S PART OF OUR ILI CALCULATION. 
          UH, IT'S THE UNAVOIDABLE REAL LOSS, KIND OF THE NUMERATOR OF THE ILI. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A QUARTER OF WHAT OUR LOSSES ARE. 
          AND THAT LEAVES THIS BIG CHUNK THAT THE 70% THAT ARE UNIDENTIFIED LEAKS, SO LEAKS THAT HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE SURFACE. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T GONE AND MADE, UH, MADE REPAIRS, UH, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVEN'T BEEN FOUND BY LEAK DETECTION. 
          AND SO YOU ATTACK THIS 70% WITH THE TWO THINGS THAT I PREVIOUSLY SPOKE ABOUT, UH, ADDITIONAL LEAK DETECTION AND, UM, LEVERAGING THE DATA THAT WE'VE GOT TO IMPROVE THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE GETTING FOR LEAK DETECTION, UH, AND BY SYSTEM RENEWAL, UH, SO THAT YOU HAVE THE PIPES IN THE GROUND THAT ARE, THAT ARE LEAKING LESS. 
          UM, I WANNA PAUSE ON THIS ONE 'CAUSE I THINK THIS WAS RELATED TO A QUESTION THAT, THAT HAD COME UP IN A PREVIOUS MEETING. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA STOP FOR ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT AT THIS POINT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON ALTER, UM, WE CAN FINISH THE PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN ASK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [01:15:02]
QUESTION. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT? OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, LISTED HERE ARE, UH, GENERAL AREAS OF THE REST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REPORT. 
          THE FIRST TWO THERE ARE THE PROACTIVE LEAK DETECTION AND, AND THE SERVICE LINES. 
          UH, JUST TO TOUCH ON THE OTHERS. 
          UM, THE THIRD ONE THERE IS IMPROVING PRODUCTION METER ACCURACY. 
          UH, WHEN WE CALCULATE OUR WATER LOSSES, UM, IT ALL STARTS WITH THE NUMBERS OF WHAT COMES OUT OF OUR PLANTS. 
          AND SO BEING AS PRECISE AS WE CAN WITH THOSE NUMBERS IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE STAND. 
          AND SO WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME WORK, UH, TO DO THERE. 
          WE'LL STUDY, UH, THAT ADDITIONALLY FIND OUT EXACTLY THE RIGHT THINGS TO DO AND THEN, UM, EXECUTE SOME, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO, UH, UH, IMPROVE, UH, THOSE NUMBERS. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S AN ITEM FOR STRENGTHENING DATA VALIDATION PRACTICES FOR LARGE METERS. 
          SO THIS IS LARGE CUSTOMER METERS. 
          UH, A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF, UH, OUR DEMAND, UH, THAT WE, UH, OF WHAT WE SELL TO OUR CUSTOMERS GO THROUGH THESE LARGE METERS. 
          AND SO WE'VE GOT A CONTRACTOR THAT DOES, UM, THIS TESTING. 
          AND SO THIS, UH, SUGGESTION HERE, OR RECOMMENDATION FROM BLACK AND VEATCH IS THAT, UH, WE DO SOME MORE REVIEW OF THE RESULTS FROM THE CONTRACTOR, UH, AND JUST VALIDATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO, TO STRENGTHEN OUR RESULTS THERE. 
          AND THEN ACROSS THE WATER LOSS PROGRAM, UH, THERE WAS, UH, KIND OF A CONSTANT THEME OF, OF UTILIZING OUR DATA. 
          THAT'S WHAT BLACK AND VEATCH DID. 
          UM, THEY, UH, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD DASHBOARD? THEY USED DASHBOARDS FOR A LOT OF OUR DATA, UH, TO, UH, IDENTIFY AND FIND TRENDS AND FIND WHERE THERE MAY BE ISSUES FOUND. 
          ONE, WITH, WITH SOME OF OUR METERS AT THE PLANTS THAT WE WERE, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ABLE TO, UH, CORRECT SOME ISSUES THERE. 
          UH, AND SO THAT'S THEIR SUGGESTIONS, AGAIN, IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. 
          UH, MANAGE OUR DATA DASHBOARD, THE DATA USING, UH, THINGS LIKE POWER BI TO, UH, TO REVIEW THE DATA AND STRENGTHEN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WE WANNA WORK ON IMPROVING SOME OF OUR ESTIMATES. 
          THIS IS A, A, A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY GAVE US. 
          SO THE UNBILL AUTHORIZED CONSUMPTION ARE, ARE THINGS LIKE FLUSHING OF WATER MAINS, FIGHTING OF FIRES, THINGS OF THAT SORT. 
          UM, WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF THAT, AND WE'RE VERY DETAILED IN HOW WE ESTIMATE THAT. 
          BUT OUR, OUR FORMULAS AND, AND HOW WE DO THAT, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE REVIEWED THOSE. 
          AND SO BLACK AND VEATCH SUGGESTED THAT WE GO BACK AGAIN, UH, AND, AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE, UH, RIGHT ON, UH, ON COURSE THERE MOVING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL, UH, TRAINING FOR THE WATER AUDIT, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT, UH, SPREAD MORE OUT ACROSS THE UTILITY, GET MORE PEOPLE, UM, UH, TRAINED ALONG THOSE LINES, THAT IT'S KIND OF A BROADER BASE WITHIN THE UTILITY OF THOSE THAT ARE, UH, FAMILIAR WITH THAT AUDITING PROCESS. 
          AND THEN THERE'S DISTRICT METERING AREAS. 
          UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S TECHNICALLY CHALLENGING TO DO IN A SYSTEM, UH, LIKE OURS. 
          BUT, UH, WITH THE ADVENT OF A MI, UH, REALLY BE A STRONG TOOL TO HELP US GET THIS DONE. 
          WE'VE GOT TWO, UH, DISTRICT METERED AREAS GOING, GOING LIVE THIS FALL, UH, BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          UH, AND WE'LL BE EXPANDING THAT. 
          AND THAT WILL ALSO HELP US REDUCE OUR WATER LOSSES. 
          UH, SO, UH, ON THE 21ST, WE WILL HAVE AN RCA, UH, COMING BEFORE COUNCIL, UH, FOR OUR LARGE DIAMETER LEAK DETECTION CONTRACT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, AGAIN, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO CONTINUE DOING THAT. 
          SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR ALMOST A DECADE AND A HALF NOW. 
          UH, AND SO THAT'LL BE COMING THROUGH FOR YOUR REVIEW. 
          UH, AS FAR AS, UM, IMPLEMENTING, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE'RE IDENTIFYING THOSE THAT WE CAN GET IMPLEMENTED QUICKLY AND MOVING ON THOSE, AND THEN IDENTIFYING THOSE THAT ARE A LITTLE LONGER TERM AND DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW TO GET THE BALL, UH, ROLLING ON THOSE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN. 
          UH, AND OF COURSE WE'LL BE PROVIDING REGULAR REPORTS TO ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS. 
          SO THAT WAS A QUICK RUN THROUGH. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? GREAT. 
          LET'S SEE ABOUT QUESTIONS. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SORT OF SEEING THE MAIN LINKS IN, IN CONTEXT WITH WHAT THE SERVICE LINE LEAKS I THINK IS REALLY HELPFUL. 
          BUT IT DOES RAISE THE QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT INVESTMENTS ARE WE MAKING IN THOSE SERVICE LINES? UM, ONE OF MY COMMISSIONERS, UH, MENTIONED THE, UM, AND I MAY GET HOW TO PRONOUNCE THIS WRONG, THE POLYBUTYLENE PIPES, UM, THAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE LEAD, BUT WE HAVE THOSE PIPES AND THAT THOSE PIPES ARE ERODING. 
          UM, AND THAT IS LIKELY A BIG PART OF THE SERVICE LINE PROBLEM. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE DEDICATED FUNDING THAT'S ALLOCATED TO REPLACING THOSE AND, AND WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME AND THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT PROJECT? YES. 
          SO, UH, WE DEFINITELY HAVE DEDICATED 
          [01:20:01]
FUNDING TO THAT, KNOWING THAT IT'S THE, THE, THE POLYBUTYLENE. 
          UM, AT OUR, AT OUR CURRENT RATE, WE'D BE REMOVING THOSE BY SAY 2045. 
          AND, AND WE WANNA, WE ARE GONNA MOVE THAT UP. 
          WE'RE GONNA PUT ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA. 
          WE HAVEN'T SETTLED TODAY ON EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CIP PLANNING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT UP AND INVEST MORE TO REPLACE THEM QUICKER. 
          YEAH, I'LL ADD TO THAT A LITTLE BIT THAT WE, UM, POLYBUTYLENE WAS WIDELY USED WHEN AUSTIN WAS BOOMING AND BUILDING. 
          AND SO, UM, SO THAT WE HAVE IT IN A NUMBER OF AREAS AND WE KNOW WHERE IT IS, AND WE HAVE DEVELOPED A RISK BASED APPROACH. 
          'CAUSE WE KNOW IT FAILS MORE AT HIGHER PRESSURES. 
          WE KNOW ONCE IT FAILS, IT DOESN'T STOP FAILING. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF STRATEGIES. 
          ONE IS, UM, WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE POOR PERFORMING AREAS AND PUT OUR MONEY THERE FIRST TO GET THE FASTER BANG FOR OUR BUCK. 
          UM, THE OTHER IS THAT WHEN OUR CREWS GO OUT TO REPAIR AND FIND THAT THE LEAK IS A SERVICE LINE, THEY CAN REPLACE IT RATHER THAN REPAIR IT. 
          UM, AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN, TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX THAT WE CAN USE, UH, TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THIS AREA. 
          AND, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO WE DID A KIND OF A PILOT PROJECT WHERE WE REPLACED A BUNCH OF POLYBUTYLENE SERVICES IN ONE AREA, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, FEWER BREAKS, LESS WATER LOSS IN THAT AREA. 
          AND SO WE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR US TO REDUCE WATER LOSS. 
          ARE THERE ANY FEDERAL OR STATE PROGRAMS TO ASSIST WITH THAT? I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, UM, IN THE, IN THE SCHEME OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THERE IS, FEDERAL MONEY FOR POLYBUTYLENE SERVICES DOES NOT RISE TO THE, UM, TO THE SAME LEVEL OF CONCERN AS SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING AND ABILITY TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS THAT, THAT WE NEED TO. 
          AND, UM, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOW INTEREST LOANS THAT, UM, MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL JUST REGISTER THE, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO SPEED THAT UP FROM 2045 INTEND TO, ESPECIALLY FOR, RIGHT? YES. 
          THAT'S EVEN AS PART OF OUR, YOU KNOW, WATER FORWARD EFFORTS. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS A, IS A IMPORTANT STRATEGY FOR THE WATER CONSERVATION THAT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED. 
          IT, IT IS IMPORTANT. 
          IT IS INCORP, IT IS INCORPORATED AND IT IS PART OF OUR, UM, THE, UH, SUITE OF STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IN ORDER TO REACH OUR WATER CONSERVATION GOALS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATED THIS OVERVIEW. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER RYAN AL ALTER VICE CHAIR RYAN AL ALTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO, DO WE UTILIZE AUTOMATED VALVES IN THE SERVICE PORTION OF THE SYSTEM TO SHUT OFF IF SOMEONE REPORTS A, A LEAK? WE, WE DO NOT USE AUTOMATED VALVES. 
          WE, WE ROLL A TRUCK TO GO CLOSE THAT VALVE. 
          AND IS THAT BECAUSE OF COST? OR WHY? WHY WOULD WE, WHY NOT? UM, I, THE, SO THERE WAS A, UM, UH, I, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT PREDATES ME. 
          AND SO I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. 
          AND I, I ASSUME THE ANSWER IS SIMILAR FOR A METER THAT'S ON THE SERVICE SIDE. 
          YOU KNOW, AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS AND READING THE REPORT, IT, AND MAYBE IT'S OVERKILL, BUT MAYBE NOT. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A METER COMING OFF THE MAIN, YOUR METER AT THE CUSTOMER SIDE, AND IF THOSE TWO FLOWS AREN'T THE SAME, YOU'VE GOT A BREAK IN BETWEEN AND THE VALVE TURNS IT OFF, LIKE THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY INTUITIVE SOLUTION. 
          MAYBE IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE, MAYBE NOT. 
          I'M JUST HERE. 
          WHY DO WE NOT IMPLEMENT THOSE KINDS OF, UH, TOOLS SO THAT WE DON'T LOSE SO MUCH WATER? I, I WOULD SAY THAT HAVING TWO METERS IS NOT A, IS NOT AN INDUSTRY RECOMMENDED, UM, APPROACH IN PART BECAUSE METERS ARE, THE METERS THAT WE HAVE DEPLOYED ARE VERY ACCURATE, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE, THE ACCURACY BETWEEN THOSE TWO METERS, YOU, YOU MAY NOT GET USABLE DATA WHEN YOU COMPARE THOSE TWO METERS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE LEAK ALERTS ON THE PRIVATE, ON THE, ON THE CER PRIVATE SIDE OF THE METER. 
          UM, THAT WILL THROUGH THE MY A TX WATER PROGRAM THAT WILL LET OUR CUSTOMERS KNOW, UH, IN NEAR REAL TIME THAT THEY HAVE A LEAK, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN GO FIND IT AND REPAIR IT. 
          AND WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF REALLY GOOD RESPONSE TO THAT, TO THOSE ALERTS. 
          YEAH. 
          DO, AND LOOKING AT ONE OF THE PICTURES HERE FOR THE SERVICE LINE SLIDE, THAT BLUE PIPING, ARE WE USING, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT SEEMS LIKE A, A FLEXIBLE TYPE OF PIPE. 
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IS THAT WHAT WE USE FOR OUR SERVICE LINES? DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? YEAH, CURRENTLY JUST ABOUT ALL THE SERVICE LINES THAT ARE GOING IN ARE, UH, HTPE HIGH DENSITY POLYETHYLENE. 
          UH, THE POLYETHYLENE WAS A, A BLUE AND SOMETIMES NOT BLACK, UH, BUT IT, IT DIDN'T LAST LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. 
          ALL THE RESULTS WITH THE HDPE HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD, UH, TO THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S MOST OF WHAT OUR SERVICES ARE. 
          AND DID, ARE THEY, ARE THEY RIGID OR FLEXIBLE? AND THEN I ASKED THIS 'CAUSE A NEIGHBOR ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY, WE HAD A BREAK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE HAVE VERY SHIFTY SOILS WHERE I LIVE. 
          AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST BREAK. 
          IT'S NOT THE HUNDREDTH BREAK. 
          AND SHE, WHY DON'T THESE PIPES, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNT FOR THAT? AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WELL, UH, WELL I'LL SAY THE HDP IS MORE, CERTAINLY MORE FLEXIBLE THAN COPPER OR, UH, OR THE OLD POLY, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          THE POLY LENE IS REALLY BRITTLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH MOVEMENT FOR, FOR IT TO FAIL. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S NOT TOTALLY, UH, FLEXIBLE, BUT IT'S MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE THAN, YOU KNOW, THE METAL SERVICES. 
          THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          FOR THE, THE ITEM THAT YOU REFERENCED FOR THE 21ST FOR OUR LEAK DETECTION, IS THAT A KIND OF MAIN MAINTENANCE OF STATUS QUO OR ARE WE ADDING AS THE REPORT TALKS ABOUT ADDITIONAL LEAK DETECTION PERSONNEL TO GO OUT AND TRY TO CATCH SOME OF THAT 70%? THAT'S JUST GOING UNDETECTED RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, UH, THE 21ST RCA IS FOR OUR LARGE DIAMETER LEAK DETECTION. 
          AND SO THAT IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. 
          UM, THE LARGE DIAMETER AND THE SMALL DIAMETER REALLY ARE QUITE DIFFERENT, UH, IN THE LARGE DIAMETER TYPICALLY. 
          SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PIPE ADD, UH, UH, TAPS AND PORTS FOR PUTTING, THIS IS THE SMART BALL THAT FLOATS THROUGH THE PIPE AND THEN GETS CAUGHT, UH, AT THE OTHER END. 
          SO THIS IS GENERALLY CONTINUING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ON THAT END AND, AND WE'VE, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME REAL GOOD RESULTS THERE, IDENTIFYING BOTH ON THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT SIDE, SOME PIPES, THAT WAS THE PICTURE THAT I HAD, WAS A PIPE THAT WE FOUND THAT WAS NEAR FAILURE AND ABLE TO REPAIR IT BEFORE IT, UH, BEFORE IT TOTALLY FAILED. 
          UM, UH, AND THEN THE SMART BALL IS, IS FINDING THE LEAKS AND, AND WE'VE, UH, HAD, UH, GOOD RESULTS WITH WITH BOTH OF THOSE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S FOR. 
          AND DO Y'ALL HAVE PLANS TO COME FORWARD AT SOME POINT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR OR AT SOME POINT TO, TO EXPAND THE LEAK DETECTION TEAM FOR YOUR SMALLER DIAMETER PIPES? GETTING AT WHAT THE REPORT IS DISCUSSING? MOSTLY WHAT THE REPORT SPOKE TO WAS UTILIZING THE DATA THAT WE ARE ALREADY GETTING BACK. 
          'CAUSE THERE, THERE IS A PROCESS FOR CALCULATING, UM, THROUGH THE A WWA STANDARDS OF HOW FREQUENTLY WHAT, WHAT'S THE RIGHT TIMELINE TO GET THROUGH YOUR SYSTEM. 
          AND ABOUT SIX YEARS BASED ON OUR SYSTEM AND THE T TYPE OF SYSTEM WE HAVE SIX YEARS WAS WHAT THE CALCULATION CAME OUT TO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. 
          UM, AND SO THEIR, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO CONTINUE THAT, BUT TO DO THESE OTHER THINGS WITH MORE UTILIZATION OF THE DATA TO FOCUS WHERE WE'RE DOING THE WORK. 
          UM, AND, AND, UM, MORE TRAINING AND, UM, MORE, UM, CHANGING UP SOME OF THE, UH, CONTRACT WORDING, UH, GETTING STRONGER ABOUT THE REPORTS THAT, THAT WE GET BACK FROM THE CONTRACTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THE RATE OF NUMBER OF MILES THAT WE'RE COVERING, NUMBER OF VALVES THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO, LISTENING TO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CONTINUE THAT LOAD, BUT JUST, UH, LEVERAGE WHAT WE'VE GOT TO GET MORE RESULTS. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND THE LASTLY, THE, THERE WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION. 
          IT, IT TALKED ABOUT THE INACCURACIES IN OUR WATER METERS CAUSING 1400 76 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR LOST, AND THAT WAS VALUED AT EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. 
          AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, PART OF THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR OVER TWO INCH METERS WERE NOT BEING REPLACED FOR THE MY ETX WATER PROGRAM. 
          ARE WE CONSIDERING GOING TO LARGER METERS OR WHAT IS KIND OF YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT DISCUSSION ON, UM, WHERE WE ARE REPLACING OUR METERS AND NOT AND, AND HOW THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO OUR OVERALL WATER LOSS? I'M NOT SURE I'M, UM, I THAT, SO THAT'S APPARENT LOSSES I GET, I THINK THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THERE. 
          UH, THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE AND THAT MUST BE THE LARGER METERS. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT OFF AND THAT'S FINE. 
          I JUST, I'M CURIOUS IF, IF WE'RE CONSIDERING IN GROWING THE SCOPE OF OUR METER WATER METER REPLACEMENT TO, TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE METERS WE'RE NOT 'CAUSE OF THEIR SIZE, UM, IN ORDER TO, IN RECAPTURE SOME OF THAT OR, OR PREVENT SOME OF THAT LOSS. 
          SO ONE OF THE, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT, UM, RECOMMENDATION, SO WE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MORE COMPLETELY, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE, UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, ON OUR LIST, THE VALIDATION OF THE LARGE METERS AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE IMPROVE THAT VALIDATION SO THAT WE DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE ACCURACY OF THE LARGE METERS. 
          UM, 
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ALSO, UM, MATT MENTIONED THE PRODUCTION METERS. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE METERS THAT ARE AT OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND PARTICULARLY FOR OUR OLDER PLANTS, UM, ULRICH AND DAVIS, WHEN THOSE PLANTS WERE BUILT AND THOSE, AND THOSE METER VAULTS WERE BUILT, UM, IT, THEY WERE BUILT FOR INTERNAL USE OF THE PLANT TO CONTROL THE, UM, THE PLANT PROCESSES. 
          AND NOW WE ARE ASKING THOSE METERS TO DO A LOT MORE WORK FOR US RELATED TO MORE PRECISION AND HOW MUCH WATER WE'RE PRODUCING AND PUTTING INTO THE SYSTEM EVERY DAY. 
          AND SO IMPROVING THE ACCURACY OF THOSE METERS IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS SWAPPING THEM OUT FOR MORE ACCURATE METERS. 
          THE PIPING CONFIGURATIONS THEMSELVES DO NOT LEND THEMSELVES TO ACCURATE FLOW MEASUREMENT. 
          AND SO, UM, IT, THAT WILL TAKE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE $8 MILLION THAT'S IN THE REPORT, BUT WE'LL LOOK AT IT TO BE SURE. 
          UM, BUT THAT WILL TAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT CIP, UM, AT THE PLANTS IN ORDER TO INSTALL METER VAULTS AND METERS, UM, ON ENOUGH STRAIGHT RUN A PIPE THAT WE CAN GET ACCURATE METER READINGS OFF OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ON PAGE SIX EIGHT JUST TO SAY THANK YOU, WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YES. 
          A LITTLE TIME SIX THUMBING THROUGH. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS BRIEFING. 
          OUR LAST ITEM, 
          [7. Barton Creek Wastewater Interceptor Report in response to Council Resolution No. 20240530-116.]
UH, LAST BRIEFING, BARTON CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR REPORT IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 24 0 5 3 OH DASH ONE 16. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, THE, THIS WAS A RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL FOR US TO GO LOOK AT THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR, UM, AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND THE ABILITY TO SERVE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, UM, BEYOND WHAT, UH, THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR IS CAPABLE OF SERVING NOW. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE DONE, UM, A, UH, AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS OF THIS, UH, OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED IN THE RESOLUTION. 
          AND OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES, CHARLES SORO, IS GOING TO REVIEW THE RESULTS OF THAT ANALYSIS WITH YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHARLES SORO, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES AND TAKE, I ALREADY SAID THAT. 
          SORRY, . 
          UM, LET'S GO. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE AGENDA. 
          WE WILL LOOK AT THE HEALTH OF THE BARTON CREEK STREAM. 
          UH, WE'LL RE WE'LL REVIEW REPRESENTATIVE STAKEHOLDERS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'LL DISCUSS THE CONCEPTUAL MOPAC INTERCEPT AND THE WE'LL REVIEW THE CHALLENGES OF RELOCATING THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR AS WELL. 
          UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR A CAUSE OF THE RESOLUTION PASSED ON MAY 30TH, AS SHEA MENTIONED WAS TO, UH, TO LOOK AT TRYING TO REMOVE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR FROM THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, UH, REVIEW, UM, UH, REPRESENTATIVES OF DEVELOPERS FOR WASTEWATER NEEDS AND COME BACK TO YOU TODAY TO DISCUSS. 
          THIS IS THE STUDY AREA. 
          IT'S ABOUT 2,100 ACRES. 
          IT'S BOUND TO THE SOUTH BY CAPITAL OF TEXAS HIGHWAY LOOP 360 TO THE NORTH BY COLORADO RIVER TO THE EAST BY RAB ROAD, AND TO THE WEST BY LITTLE B CREEK. 
          THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR, WHICH IS SHOWN IN DARK GREEN ON THAT MAP, RUNS PARALLEL AND WEST OF BARTON CREEK. 
          THE STREAM HEALTH, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION APARTMENT REPORTS. 
          THE BARTON CREEK IS ONE OF THE HEALTHIER STREAMS IN AUSTIN. 
          THE 10 YEAR ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRITY IN INDEX, AND THE CONTACT RECREATIONAL SCORE RANKS THE CREEK AS SIX OUT OF 49 CREEKS IN THE AUSTIN AREA. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE PAST 15 YEARS, THE WATER QUALITY SCORE FOR THIS REACH OF BARTON CREEK HAS BETWEEN, BEEN BETWEEN GOOD AND FAIR, AND ALSO OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, ONLY TWO OUT OF THE 23 E COLI SAMPLES HAVE BEEN ABOVE TC TWO THRESHOLD. 
          SO AS WE DISCUSSED THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE AREA, UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURRED BEFORE THE 1992 S, OUR SPRING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WITHIN THIS AREA. 
          IN GENERAL, THE DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THE 1992, UH, NOT UNDERNEATH THAT OSO ORDINANCE GENERALLY HAS HIGHER IMPERVIOUS COVER BELOW STANDARD A NO WATER QUALITY TREATMENT. 
          AND, AND THE DEVELOPMENT TENDS TO BE CLOSER TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE AREAS. 
          IF A REDEVELOPMENT OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT WAS TO RECUR, MOST LIKELY THEY WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH SOS ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE FOR IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITATION, ENHANCED ONSITE WATER QUALITY TREATMENT, AND WE WOULD REDUCE THE IMPACTS TO ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE AREAS. 
          ADDITIONALLY TO, UH, IN THIS AREA IN 1996 AND 1997, 
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THE ROBERT E. LEE ROAD INTERCEPTOR AND THE CONSENSUS GROUP DESIGN FLOW STUDIES WERE COMMISSIONED, AND THAT ESTABLISHED A MAXIMUM WASTEWATER ALLOCATION FOR EACH SECTION OR PARTIAL WITHIN THE CONTRIBUTING AREA OF BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR. 
          AND AUSTIN WATER HAS USED THIS ALLOCATION IN REVIEWING SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT. 
          ADDITIONALLY, IN 2002, THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR WAS MODIFIED AND REDUCED THE CAPACITY WITHIN THE PIPE. 
          WITH THAT, WE TALKED TO THE, UH, UH, SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS. 
          OH, I DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD, SORRY. 
          OH, YOU DID? I'M SORRY. 
          YEP. 
          OH, THERE WE GO. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, UH, WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE SERVICE AREAS, THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF WESTLAKE, THE CITY OF ROLLINGWOOD WOODS, OF BARTON CREEK, SKYWAY, BARTON CREEK MALL, TERRACE POD, AND PALISADES WEST. 
          THESE STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDE COMMERCIAL AND MULTIPLE, UH, MULTIFAMILY, UH, PROPERTIES, AND THE STAKEHOLDER DISCUSS THEIR UTILITY SERVICE NEEDS AND THE OPTION FOR SERVICE PLAN TO PROVIDE WASTEWATER WITH AUSTIN WATER. 
          WITH THAT, THE STAFF STARTED EVALUATING, UM, PLANS FOR, FOR, UH, FOR FUTURE WASTEWATER FLOWS. 
          UM, THE EVALUATION RESULTED IN WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE CONCEPTUAL MOPAC INTERCEPTOR. 
          THE INTERCEPTOR IS ABOUT 13,900 FEET LONG, AND APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE PIPE LENGTH HAS ENCROACHMENT WITHIN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY EROSION HAZARD AND A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. 
          I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT MOST OF ALL THE ENCROACHMENT IS ALONG ACTUALLY S CREEK, WHICH IS WEST OF MOPAC. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING WASTEWATER CAPACITY, UH, WITHIN THE SYSTEM WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS PLANS. 
          AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTED FLOWS ARE LOCATED WEST OF MOPAC TO SERVE THE FUTURE FLOWS. 
          THE, THE CONCEPTUAL MOPAC INTERCEPTOR COULD BE CONSTRUCTED FOR THE EXISTING CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS, THE THOUSAND OAKS INTERCEPTOR FROM B CREEK LIFT STATION TO TREMONT LIFT STATION, AND ULTIMATELY THE CONNECTING TO THE MOPAC, UH, CONCEPTUAL INTERCEPTOR COULD BE CONSTRUCTED. 
          THIS OPTION WOULD REDUCE THE FLOW TO SKUNK HOLLOW. 
          CURRENTLY, THE B CREEK LIFT STATION FORCE MAIN, UH, DISCHARGES INTO THE SKUNK HOLLOW, WHICH IS ORANGE. 
          ON THAT MAP, WOULD ELIMINATE TWO LIFT STATIONS, ELIMINATE THREE MOPAC, UH, WASTEWATER CROSSINGS UNDERNEATH MOPAC. 
          AND WHERE WE REDUCE THE EXISTING FLOWS GOING TO THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR BY 65%, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD, UH, THE REMAINING WASTEWATER FLOWS WITHIN THE SERVICE AREAS WOULD GO TO THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR. 
          UM, AS WE, JUST AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE MOPAC INTERCEPTOR, THE THOUSAND OAKS INTERCEPTOR, IT, IT, IT, IT, UH, IT ADDRESSES MANY QUESTIONS OR MANY REQUESTS IN THE RESOLUTION, BUT DOES NOT MOVE THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR. 
          THE BARTON AIR CREEK SCEPTER TODAY IS ABOUT 11,000 LINEAR FEET OF MOSTLY 24 AND 36 INCH FIBERGLASS REINFORCED CONCRETE PIPE, PLASTIC PIPE, EXCUSE ME. 
          THIS IS A MODERN CORROSIVE, UH, RESISTANT PIPE. 
          A SIGNIFICANT PORTION IS WITHIN THE ENCROACHMENT AREAS, AND THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PIPE HAS BEEN VERY GOOD. 
          OUR DATA SHOWS ONLY ONE SSO IN 2015 RESULTING IN 50 GALLONS DUE TO PIPE BLOCKAGE. 
          WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT MOVING THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR, THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA WERE USED. 
          UH, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO ALL THE CUSTOMERS. 
          WE WANTED TO AVOID DISPLACING HOMES, TO MINIMIZE LIFT STATIONS, PROVIDE ACCESS FOR FUTURE, UH, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, AVOID ENVI ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, AND ACHIEVE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, UH, TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THE EXISTING HOMES. 
          THE LAND TOPOGRAPHY IS A CRUCIAL DESIGN ELEMENT IN EVALUATING ALTERNATIVES. 
          ON THE SCREEN TO THE RIGHT, THERE IS, UH, OR MY GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT, YES, IS A TOPOGRAPHY MAP SHOWING 10 FOOT CONTOUR INTERVALS, AND THAT'S THE ELEVATIONS AT EVERY 10 FEET. 
          THE LIGHTER YELLOW OR THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS AND THE DARKER GREEN ARE THE LOWER ELEVATIONS. 
          AND THIS IS TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE HOW BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTORS IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE VALLEY OF THIS, OF THIS AREA HERE, AND HOW FLOWS GO FROM THE HIGHER DOWN TO THE LOWER, UH, DOWN TO BARTON CREEK. 
          ANOTHER WAY OF SHOWING THIS IS WITH A, UH, CROSS SECTION, UH, CROSS SECTION WOULD REPRESENT IF ONE WHERE IT ACTUALLY CUT THE TOPOGRAPHY 
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MAP TO, THEY COULD LOOK AT IT. 
          AND THIS CROSS SECTION IS FROM THE TOPOGRAPHY MAP THAT YOU LOOKED AT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THE INTERCEPTOR, AGAIN, IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE VALLEY. 
          IF I WERE TO MOVE THE, THE, UH, MARTIN CREEK INTERCEPTOR, THE PROPERTIES OR THE HOMES THAT WOULD BE BELOW THE INTERCEPTOR WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO BE SERVED SERVICE TO THAT LOWER AREA WOULD THEN NEED LIFT STATIONS TO TAKE THE FLOW FROM THE LOWER ELEVATIONS AND PUMP IT BACK UP TO THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. 
          UM, SINCE MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS UP TO BARTON CREEK, MOST OF THOSE LIFT STATIONS WOULD STILL, WELL, MOST OF LIFT STATIONS WOULD BE IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY AND A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. 
          ADDITIONALLY, IF WE DID DECIDE TO RELOCATE THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR TO THE EAST, ADDITIONAL CROSSINGS TO HAVE, UH, THE SERVICES FROM THE WEST GO TO THE EAST WOULD, WOULD NEED TO BE DONE AS WELL. 
          SO TO AVOID ANY KIND OF LIFT STATIONS OR ADDITIONAL WASTEWATER CROSSINGS, THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR WOULD REMAIN FOR LOCAL FLOWS. 
          SO SHOULD CITY COUNCIL DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO SERVE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REVIEW REDEVELOPMENT OF EXISTING PROPERTIES WITHIN THE BARTON CREEK CONTRIBUTING ZONES, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE FLOWS WITHIN THE EXISTING PIPE, CONTINUE THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT OR MONITORING OF THE PIPE. 
          WE WOULD INITIATE THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING OF THE THOUSAND OAKS INTERCEPTOR AND THE CONCEPTUAL MOPAC INTERCEPTOR WITH THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR REMAINING FOR LOCAL FLOWS. 
          AS DISCUSSED, THE EVALUATION OF SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS WITHIN THE AREA WOULD FOLLOW THE CITY'S POLICY RATHER THAN THE CONSENSUAL GROUP STUDY, WHICH ALLOCATES WASTEWATER BY PARCEL OR SECTION, AND THEN CONTINUE ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENTS TO VOLUNTARILY INCORPORATE ONSITE WATER REUSE AND CONSERVATION METHODS. 
          AND THAT WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T RECOMMEND DOING ANYTHING TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE INTERCEPTOR, BUT YOU WOULD LIMIT, UH, THE CONTINUED INFLOWS ONLY TO RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND THEN IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT ANY NEW WASTEWATER CAPACITY WOULD OCCUR ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CREEK AND NOT IN IT? THEY'D BE DIFFERENT LIFT STATIONS AND DIFFERENT PIPES THAT ARE EITHER TO THE EAST OR THE WEST OF THE CREEK. 
          SO I, I SHOULD LET CHARLES ANSWER THIS, BUT, UM, THE, WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN IS, UM, AS YOU SAY, THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPT STAYING WHERE IT IS. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE LIFT STATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW, UM, THAT LOCAL SERVICE AREA TO CONTINUE TO BE, UM, SERVED BY GRAVITY PIPES. 
          AND ANY REDEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS IN THAT AREA WOULD BE GOVERNED BY, UM, THE, THE CITY'S CODES AND ORDINANCES, UM, BY THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS, UM, THE SOS ORDINANCE, UH, AND UM, AND WOULD THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, MEET THOSE, MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR SERVICE. 
          AND IF YOU WERE TO MOVE, OH, GO AHEAD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT ONE THING. 
          THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WEST OF MOPAC, UHHUH , SO THERE MAY BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT STILL GOING TOWARD THE BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR. 
          YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED JUST RESIDENTIAL, BUT THERE IS SOME RIGHT. 
          COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG MOPAC. 
          OKAY. 
          SO COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE THOUSAND OAKS INTERCEPTOR AND, UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE OTHER ONE? SK KALO. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          SK KALO. 
          THAT'S MY FAVORITE ONE. 
          YES, ME TOO. 
          , THAT, THAT PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE, THE GULLY, WHICH IS THE, THE CREEK BED IS WHAT MADE ME THINK THAT WHATEVER WOULD HAPPEN ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CREEK WOULD BE BUILT OR CONTINUE TO BE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CREEK AND WOULD NOT. 
          SO THE ACROSS THE CREEK, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AREA THAT'S IN BLUE, UM, SO THE BLUE LINE WOULD BE THE LOCAL SERVICE AREA. 
          UM, AND IT'S ABOUT 35% OF THE, UM, OF THE EXISTING EXISTING FLOWS. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A THIRD, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE EXISTING FLOWS WOULD BE WHAT WOULD REMAIN IN BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR. 
          AND UM, AND THAT WOULD BE SOME AREAS TO THE WEST, AS CHARLES MENTIONED, THAT, UM, THAT CURRENTLY CROSS THE CREEK. 
          BUT WE WOULDN'T NEED ANY NEW 
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CROSSINGS OF THE CREEK. 
          OH, SORRY, LEMME SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          THE INTERCEPTOR ITSELF IS ON THE WEST. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE CROSSINGS FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST TO SERVE THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO THE EAST. 
          THOSE CROSSINGS WOULD REMAIN, BUT WE WOULDN'T NEED NEW CROSSINGS. 
          AND, AND THAT'S, UM, IMPORTANT TO ME FOR SURE, AND PROBABLY FOR A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO INCREASE THE EFFLUENT THAT MAY BE, UH, RUNNING THROUGH PIPES THAT ARE IN THE CREEK BED BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT PRISTINE NATURE OF THE WATER, UH, OVER THE AQUIFER AREA CONTINUES TO BE AT THE LEVELS THAT IT IS NOW, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT. 
          I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THINGS CHANGE AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT, INCLUDING THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE HAPPENING IN FUTURE YEARS, SO THAT WE ARE POISED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING TO CAUSE DETERIORATION OF THE LEVELS OF THE PRISTINE NATURE OF, AND I KNOW I'M, I'M OVER EMPHASIZING HOW CLEAN THE WATER IS, BUT IT, IT'S ACTUALLY LOOKING PRETTY GOOD AND IT'S GOT A GOOD RECORD, UH, AND I DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING TO, TO MAKE THAT, UH, TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT IT. 
          SO IS THAT KIND OF HOW YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS, THIS SCENARIO HERE? IT, IT IS. 
          SO THE IDEA WITH THE MOPAC INTERCEPTOR IS TO, UM, THAT THAT NEW INTERCEPTOR WOULD CAPTURE THOSE FLOWS TO THE WEST, WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF THE REDEVELOPMENT WOULD BE HAPPENING. 
          UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME REDEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, UM, THE, THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE, UH, SPOKE WITH, SOME REDEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING INSIDE OF THIS LOCAL SERVICE AREA, BUT AT THOSE EXPECTED RATES OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE EXISTING BARTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT, UH, WITHOUT STRESSING THAT SYSTEM. 
          AND SOME OF THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE PULLING SOME OF THE USERS OFF OF IT AND PUTTING THEM IN A NEW INTERCEPTOR. 
          SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO, TO REPLACE THAT REDUCTION AND NOT INCREASE THAT ANY THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I KNOW THE TOPOGRAPHY OVER THERE IS DIFFICULT AND LIFT STATIONS ARE SUPER EXPENSIVE AND, AND I WOULD SAY MORE THAN THE COST OF THE LIFT STATIONS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, LIFT STATIONS, THE, THE WAY WE BUILD LIFT STATIONS NOW, WE ELEVATE EVERYTHING ABOVE THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. 
          WE INSTALL, UM, UH, UH, PERMANENT DIESEL POWERED OR GAS POWERED IF GAS IS AVAILABLE. 
          GENERATORS, UM, ON THOSE SITES, WE, WE FENCE THEM. 
          WE, UM, INSTALL A LOT OF SECURITY. 
          WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THEM. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE, OUR LIFT STATIONS TODAY ARE VERY ROBUST. 
          UM, AND, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ALARMING AND CONTROLS. 
          UM, BUT MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT STILL FAILS. 
          AND SO WHATEVER OUR RESPONSE TIME IS TO GET TO THAT FAILURE, UM, IS, IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL RISK. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF PROTECTING THE CREEK, WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, A GRAVITY SYSTEM IS THE, IS A, A VERY WELL MAINTAINED GRAVITY SYSTEM IS THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY PROTECTIVE. 
          GREAT QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER, ALLISON WALTER. 
          UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS COUNCIL INITIATED. 
          YOU WENT AND DID THE ANALYSIS AND YOU CAME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION. 
          IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT, UM, ARE YOU RECOMMENDING IT? WELL, UM, WHAT I WILL SAY TO THAT IS THAT RIGHT NOW WE TREAT THAT AREA DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO, UH, EVERY OTHER REQUEST FOR REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, CURRENTLY WE LOOK AT THE ALLOCATION, THE FLOW ALLOCATION FOR EACH SECTION OF THIS SERVICE AREA ON THE BASIS OF THAT CONSENSUS STUDY FROM 1998. 
          AND THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF WASTEWATER FLOW THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THE SITE IN THAT AREA CAN SEND US. 
          UM, AND THAT IS NOT HOW, UH, WE MANAGE, UM, WASTEWATER PLANNING AND DELIVERY OF SERVICE IN THE REST OF OUR SERVICE AREA. 
          SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, INDUSTRY STANDARD UTILITY PLANNING PRACTICES, UH, IT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, TO SERVE THIS AREA IN THE WAY THAT, UM, IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR, WITH THE CITY'S, UM, SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST POLICY WITH ALL OF OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES BETWEEN, UM, BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND WATERSHED PROTECTION AND AUSTIN WATER THAT ALL WORKED TOGETHER, UM, COMPREHENSIVELY TO, UH, TO IMPLEMENT 
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CITY'S POLICIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND OUR VOTERS DECIDED THIS AREA WAS NOT LIKE OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. 
          AND THAT HAS SERVED US VERY WELL FOR, FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THIS DECISION ISN'T COMING BEFORE US BEFORE DECEMBER, BUT I, I DO THINK THERE'S A PANDORA'S BOX HERE, AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AT VERY CAREFULLY. 
          UM, YOU COULD EASILY, YOU KNOW, JUST BE ACCELERATING DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN THE SOS AREA, AND THAT MAY NOT BE THE, THE MOST IDEAL THING. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S REDEVELOPMENT THAT CAN HAPPEN THAT CAN BE ENVIRONMENTALLY BETTER, AND MAYBE THAT CANNOT HAPPEN AND, AND WE NEED, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT IT'S, I'M NOT SURE IT'S AS SIMPLE AS YES, LET'S JUST DO IT IN THAT AREA. 
          THE THIS IS, UH, FUNDAMENTALLY A CITY COUNCIL POLICY DECISION AND WE WILL IMPLEMENT CITY COUNCIL POLICY AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE CONSENSUS GROUP STUDY WAS COMPLETED. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT CAN CONTINUE UNTIL CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS OTHERWISE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I, I DO THINK THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT OUGHT TO BE TREND LIGHTLY AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE'RE UNLEASHING ON THOSE OTHER ISSUES, UM, BEYOND JUST WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE WASTEWATER CAPACITY. 
          IT, THAT'S MY VIEW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THE CHANGES DON'T AFFECT THE SOS ORDINANCE. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'S SET 97, 98, UM, AGREEMENT WITH THE HOW MUCH, UH, WASTEWATER IS ABLE TO BE ASSIGNED. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE, THE SOS ORDINANCE APPLIES TO, TO ALL OF THIS AREA. 
          UM, THERE'S JUST AN ADDED LAYER OF ALLOCATION OF WASTEWATER CAPACITY, UM, THAT COMES OUT OF THE CONSENSUS GROUP DESIGN FLOWS, AND THAT'S THE PIECE THAT IS UNIQUE TO THIS LOCATION. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, SOS IS ALSO UNIQUE TO THIS LOCATION, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ALLOCATION OF THE FLOWS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF TAKING IN ON THIS REQUEST FROM THE DIOCESE. 
          IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO KIND OF SET A STANDARD AND A BASELINE AND UPDATE THE INFORMATION THAT EVERYBODY HAS FOR WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST IN, UM, REDEVELOPING AND CHANGING THE ASPECTS OF THE MALL THAT'S ON THE TOP OF THAT HILL, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE SIGNIFICANT REMOVAL OR REMOVAL OF A SIGNIFICANT, UH, PERCENTAGE OF THE ACREAGE THAT RIGHT NOW IS A PARKING LOT AND CREATING, UH, PARKLAND OVER THERE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOING AN AUSTIN THING OVER ON, ON THAT HILLTOP, WHICH I AM VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING HAPPEN. 
          UH, LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL, UH, HISTORY FOR ME, UH, ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN. 
          WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO AUSTIN IN JULY OF 1980, I MOVED INTO AN APARTMENT THAT LOOKED OUT OVER THAT HILLTOP. 
          AND WHEN I MOVED IN IN JULY, IT WAS COVERED WITH TREES. 
          AND BY, I THINK IT WAS THAT FALL OR OR BEFORE A YEAR WAS GONE, UH, THE BULLDOZERS WERE OVER THERE TAKING THE TREES DOWN AND DENUDING THE TOP OF THAT, OF THAT, UH, RISE. 
          AND, UM, IT TOOK ME ALMOST 20 YEARS TO BE WILLING TO STEP FOOT  IN THAT MALL THAT WAS BUILT OVER THERE BECAUSE I WATCHED THE DESTRUCTION OF, UH, THE FOREST AND, AND, AND JUST SAW THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOTS. 
          UH, AND SO IT, IT MATTERS WHAT WE DO. 
          AND, UM, IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO FACILITATE AND CHANGE BACK TO SOME OF WHAT WE HAD BEFORE THAT HILLTOP WAS, UH, UH, ALL THE TREES WERE REMOVED FROM THAT HILLTOP AND THAT MALL WAS BUILT, I, I WOULD BE CHEERING US ON FOR, FOR MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND IF IT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO THEN REALLOCATE SOME OF THE FLOWS FROM THE 97 98 AGREEMENT, THEN I THINK THAT THAT IS A, A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE, SO THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? WHAT IS IT JUST TO, TO HAVE MORE DEVELOPMENT? OR IS IT ACTUALLY TO RETURN SOME SIGNIFICANT ACREAGE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN TO A MORE, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY APPROPRIATE, UM, AND, AND PLEASANT, UH, SITUATION, WHICH I, I'D TOTALLY BE FOR THAT. 
          SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE FUTURE. 
          UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR FOR SURE. 
          BUT I KNOW THAT WAS WHAT WAS, UH, TOP OF MIND FOR ME, UM, WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION 
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THAT THE DAS PASSED BACK IN MAY. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR DOING THAT INVESTIGATION AND, AND PROVIDING US WITH THIS INFORMATION. 
          IT'S REALLY HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM? UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING, UH, AT THIS POINT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH OF COURSE IS GONNA BE IN 2025. 
          LOOKS LIKE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT BEING THE CASE AT 3:25 PM THIS MEETING, UH, THE LAST MEETING OF THE AUSTIN WATER OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR 2024 IS ADJOURNED. 
          AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ALL YEAR. 
          UH, IT IS SO APPRECIATED. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM POOL AND COUNCIL MEMBER ALLISON ALTER. 
          IF I MAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, UM, AND YOUR SUPPORT OF AUSTIN WATER AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER RYAN ALTER, WERE DEPENDING ON YOU TO STICK IT OUT WITH US. 
          . 
          THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. 
          CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS Y'ALL.
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