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AND CALL THIS MEETING TO

[CALL TO ORDER]

ORDER.

IT IS OFFICIALLY 1:01 PM UM, SO LET'S SEE.

WE, UM, LET'S START OFF BY CALLING ROLL FIRST.

SAM, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL FOR US? SURE.

UM, NICOLE CONLEY HERE.

AND IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE.

SORRY.

HERE.

THANK YOU.

GARY MERRIT.

GARY MERRIT.

UH, LUKE METZKER.

HERE.

D WE SMITH.

I BELIEVE SHE'LL BE JOINING US LATER.

UH, ANNA AGUIRE.

HERE.

FRANCIS JORDAN? HERE.

RACHEL STONE? HERE.

KABA WHITE.

OKAY.

KENNETH STANLEY? HERE.

BODEL.

BO BODEL.

OKAY.

DALE GRAY HERE.

THANK YOU.

CARL REYNOLDS.

HERE.

JC DWYER.

HERE.

KATRINA MILLER? HERE.

DAVE SULLIVAN.

HERE.

HAYDEN WALKER.

HERE.

CHARLES CURRY HERE.

AND MARY HAGAR HERE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THANKS EVERYONE.

UH, AS A REMINDER, PLEASE, UH, REMEMBER TO SIGN IN ON THE SIGN IN SHEET IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.

UH, AND THAT SHOULD BE IT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU SAMUEL.

UH, WITH THAT WE CAN MOVE INTO OUR FIRST OFFICIAL AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP ONLINE OR IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT SIGNED IN FOR PUBLIC.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.

SO WITH THAT, UM, WE CAN CLOSE ITEM NUMBER TWO AND MOVE INTO, UH, STAFF BRIEFINGS, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

OH, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR NUMBER TWO, WE DO

[1. Approval of the minutes from the October 21, 2024, regular meeting.]

NEED TO MOVE INTO A NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 21ST MEETING.

UM, SO WE CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR THAT? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

AND THEN ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

THANK YOU WITH THAT.

AND THEN, LET'S SEE, LET'S MOVE INTO NOW STEP

[2. Staff briefing on “Bond 101.” Presented by Financial Services Department, Budget and Performance Manager, Steven Linett and Capital Delivery Services, Assistant Director, Marcus Hammer.]

BRIEFINGS FOR NUMBER THREE.

UM, TODAY WE HAD, WE DO HAVE OUR, OUR BOND 1 0 1 PROGRAM, WHICH WE TALKED A BIT, UH, ABOUT, UH, AT OUR LAST MONTH'S MEETING.

UH, AND FOR THAT WE WILL HAVE STEVEN LYNETTE WITH THE FINANCE SERVICES DEPARTMENT KICK THAT OFF.

WITH THAT.

STEVEN, WE CAN KEEP THE CLICKER OVER TO YOU ALL.

SORRY, I CAN TAKE CARE OF IT FOR IF YOU WANT ME TO.

OKAY.

I WAS TRYING TO GO FORWARD.

CAN YOU SHARE THE, I DUNNO WHERE YOU NEED TO POINT IT.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

HEY, UM, MY NAME'S STEVEN LYNETTE.

I'M A BUDGET AND PERFORMANCE MANAGER WITH, UM, THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M GONNA BE COVERING THE FIRST PART OF THIS PRESENTATION ON BOND PROGRAMS 1 0 1, KIND OF THE FINANCE ANGLE OF IT.

AND THEN, UM, ERIC AND MARCUS WILL BE COVERING THE, UM, CDS SIDE OF WHAT THE BF IS GONNA BE GOING INTO NEXT, SO I CAN ADVANCE WARDS.

ALRIGHT.

SO STARTING FROM THE TOP, UM, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS ARE BACKED BY THE PROPERTY TAXES OF THE CITY, THE ADV VALOREM RATE, AND THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY.

WE TYPICALLY HAVE THREE KINDS OF GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT THAT WE USE HERE.

THE FIRST ONE, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS IS WHAT WE'RE ALL HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.

UM, THESE DO REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL AND IT'S FOR LARGER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND, UM, LAND AND OTHER LARGE PROJECTS LIKE THAT.

UM, TYPICALLY THESE CARRY A 20 YEAR TERM, SO WE'RE PAYING THESE OFF FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.

UM, THE SECOND IS, THE SECOND TWO ARE NON VOTER APPROVED

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TYPES OF DEBT, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

UM, SO THESE ARE ALSO 20 YEAR NOTES.

UM, AND THEY, THEREFORE REAL PROPERTY LAND AND OTHER LARGE PROJECTS, THEY HAVE A FEW MORE RESTRICTIONS ON THEM FROM THE STATE.

SO YOU CAN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS LIKE PUBLIC HEALTH PROJECTS ANYMORE WITH THIS.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS OR PPF COS.

AND THIS IS FOR SMALL, UM, SMALLER EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES.

THOSE ARE SEVEN YEAR NOTES.

AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE NON VOTER APPROVED.

SORRY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? SURE.

WOULD.

LIKE WHERE WOULD TRASH TRUCKS, THEY FALL UNDER THIS.

UM, SO THEY WOULD BE SELF-SUPPORTED DEBT BY THE UTILITY RATES OR CASH? THEY CURRENTLY, THEY'RE CASH FUNDING MOST OF WHAT THEY DO.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO HERE'S SOME TYPICAL BOND PROJECTS.

UM, THERE ARE LARGER DRAINAGE PROJECTS.

SO FOR FLOOD CONTROL AND EROSION CONTROL, UM, LARGER CITY FACILITY PROJECTS.

SO EITHER A COMPLETELY NEW FACILITY OR MAJOR REHABILITATIONS, UM, HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING PROGRAM, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS ARE PART OF OUR GEO.

UM, OUR PIBS, UM, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, REGULAT RELATED ORDINANCES ARE COVERED BY THESE PARKS AND REC FACILITIES.

SO POOLS, REC CENTERS, UM, JUST PARK, LAND DEVELOPMENT, LAND ACQUISITION, UM, EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

SO FIRE STATIONS, EMS STATIONS, UM, POLICE STATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY DO, UM, WITH THE TRAINING FACILITIES.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, LAND PURCHASES.

UM, REAL PROPERTY.

UH, STEVEN, QUICK QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

WITH THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE, IS THAT ONLY THEIR FACILITIES, BE IT A TRAINED FACILITY OR A STATION OR, UM, FOR THE MOST PART OF THE FACILITIES? UM, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? OTHERWISE, JUST ANY OTHER COMPONENTS, WHETHER IT'S VEHICLES OR, NO, SO ANY OTHER STUFF.

YEAH.

THE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT, THOSE ARE LARGE NUMBER OF VEHICLES REPLACED OR NEW VEHICLES PURCHASED EVERY YEAR.

BUT THOSE ARE DONE WITH NON-VOTER APPROVED DEBT.

OKAY.

THROUGH THOSE PCOS.

'CAUSE THOSE ARE SEVEN YEAR NOTES AND THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS ARE 20 YEARS.

SO SIMILAR TO YOUR OWN VEHICLE KIND OF PURCHASE, YOU WOULDN'T WANNA PUT THAT ON A 20 YEAR PAYBACK PERIOD.

SO WE DO THE SAME THING.

UM, SO HERE'S KIND OF LIKE THINGS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED.

SO ANYTHING THAT'S ROUTINE MAINTENANCE WE'RE NOT GONNA DO.

SO SMALL STREET REPAIRS, POTHOLE REPAIRS, UM, FOR PARKS, JUST GENERAL PARK MAINTENANCE, UM, FACILITY SERVICES, THINGS THAT YOU, YOU MIGHT DO.

UM, IF WE'RE OCCUPYING A LEASE SPACE, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DO MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS THERE PROBABLY 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE IN THAT FACILITY FOR THAT 20 YEAR PERIOD.

UM, ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS LIKE EMPLOYEE SALARIES, IF IT'S JUST A GENERAL EMPLOYEE, UM, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE CHARGED TO A BOND PROGRAM IF THERE ARE STAFF THAT ARE DIRECTLY WORKING ON THAT.

SO PROJECT MANAGERS, DESIGN TEAMS. IF THOSE ARE HAPPENING IN-HOUSE, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CHARGE THAT TO THE BOND PROGRAM.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE JUST WANTED TO SAY MOST OF THESE UTILITIES, UM, AUSTIN ENERGY, AUSTIN WATER, MOST OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOT GOING TO COME THROUGH GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAMS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN UTILITY RATES AND ISSUE THEIR OWN DEBT, UM, OR CASH FUND THEIR PROJECTS.

SO WHY DO WE DO GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS? FOR ONE, THE BIG CONCEPT OF INTERGENERATIONAL EQUITY, UM, WHEN WE'RE BUILDING A NEW FACILITY, WE EXPECT TO BE THERE FOR DECADES.

SO IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THAT COST TO BE BORN ACROSS MULTIPLE O OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD, UM, PEOPLE 20 YEARS FROM NOW ARE ALSO PAYING FOR THE BENEFITS OF THAT FACILITY.

SO THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF DEBT.

UM, MOST OF OUR PROJECTS ARE NOT CASH FUNDED.

UM, THE CITY DOES.

SOME OF THEM, THE LARGE UTILITIES HAVE MORE CASH FLOW TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

UM, BUT IN GENERAL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS A STANDARD PRACTICE IN THE CITY.

UM, AND LASTLY, BECAUSE MANY OF THE PLANS, LIKE IMAGINE AUSTIN SMALLER, UM, DEPARTMENT VISION PLANS OR ANYTHING ELSE IS REALLY A GENERATIONAL OUTLOOK.

UM, WE NEED SOME KIND OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT WILL BE ABLE TO FUND THOSE LARGER, UM, GENERATIONAL TYPES OF PROJECTS.

AND GEO BONDS ARE WHERE WE FILL THOSE IN.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 2026 BOND, AT LEAST FROM THE FINANCIAL SERVICES ANGLE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT RATED AGENCIES ARE SAYING.

UM, I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ON THAT.

IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY'S CURRENT FINANCIAL CONDITION AND OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES.

WE HAVE A FEW SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT.

SO ONE OF WHICH IS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE MORE THAN TWO YEARS OF AUTHORIZED, BUT UNISSUED

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DEBT.

SO BASICALLY TWO YEARS WORTH OF PROJECTS BEFORE WE DO ANOTHER BOND PROGRAM.

AND THEN THE SECOND, UM, IS WE SHOULD NOT GO OUT WITH PROPOSITIONS THAT TAKE LONGER THAN SIX YEARS TO COMPLETE.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE IN THE FINANCIAL POLICIES.

IN THE BACK OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS.

SO OUR EXISTING DEBT SERVICE, SO PAYING OFF ALL THE CURRENT BONDS FROM 20, UH, 2022 AND PRIOR.

UM, AND ALL THE NON-VOTER APPROVED DEBT AS WELL.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCES.

UM, SO THE CITY ISSUES ITS DEBT ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS IN GENERAL.

SO EVEN IF WE HAD THAT 2022 BOND PROGRAM FOR 350 MILLION IN THE HOUSING BONDS, WE'RE NOT ISSUING ALL THAT DEBT AT ONCE.

WE'RE ONLY ISSUING THAT AFTER THE FACT AS WE SPEND THOSE DOLLARS.

SO YOU'RE NOT PAYING INTEREST BEFORE.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THOSE ASSETS.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPACTS ON TAX RATES.

SO, UM, BECAUSE GEO DEBT COMES THROUGH THE INS PORTION OF THE TAX RATE, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S LIKE THE POLITICAL WILL AND THE COMMUNITY WANTS OR IS WILLING TO ACCEPT A TAX INCREASE FROM BOND ISSUES.

UM, UH, THERE ARE A FEW OTHER KIND OF BENCHMARK INDICATORS.

WE LOOK AT, UH, DEBT SERVICES OF PERCENTAGE OF GENERAL GOVERNMENT EXPENDITURES, THE DEBT TO TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE OF THE CITY.

UM, SO THE FULL VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY IS TAXING, UM, DEBT PER CAPITA, SO HOW MUCH PER PERSON, UM, WE HAVE OUT IN GEO DEBT.

AND THEN AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE BURDEN, DEBT BURDEN THROUGH THE IMPACTS ON TAX RATES.

NEXT UP WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON RATING CRITERIA.

SO CURRENTLY THROUGH THE THREE MAJOR MAJOR CREDIT RATING AGENCIES WE HAVE LIKE AAA FROM S, S AND P, AND THEN AA ONE AND AA PLUS FROM MOODY'S AND FITCH RESPECTIVELY.

SO IN GENERAL, WE HAVE VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY DEBT AND WE WANNA KEEP IT THAT WAY TO KEEP OUR INTEREST RATES LOWER.

UM, SO THINGS THAT OUR RATING AGENCIES LOOKING AT IS THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATE INSTITUTIONS.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT GENERAL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS IN THE CITY.

UM, MANAGEMENT FACTORS WITHIN THE CITY AND ASSORTMENT OF OTHER, UM, UH, CRITERIA THAT, UM, TH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, KEEPING UP A GOOD FINANCIAL CONDITION.

UM, IN THEIR MOST RECENT RATING CALLS.

UM, THE CITY'S DOING GENERALLY WELL AS WE COULD SEE WHAT THE RATINGS UP THERE.

UM, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL GROWTH IS STILL STRONG.

UM, WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOWDOWN ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UM, GROWTH THIS YEAR.

BUT THOSE ARE STILL STRONG INDICATORS FOR THE CITY.

UM, WE HAVE A PRETTY STRONG RESERVES AND HAVE KEPT IN LINE WITH OUR RESERVE POLICIES IN GENERAL AND HAD BEEN INCREASING THEM IN RECENT YEARS.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A FEW OTHERS WITH, UH, LOOKING AT LONG-TERM BURDENS OF THE CITY.

SO OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT, UM, PENSION PROGRAM HEALTH, UM, OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND, UM, THE GROWTH OF, UH, OTHER DEBT OVER TIME.

THEN GONNA GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON OUR BOND PROGRAMS. SO SINCE 1998, UM, THE CITY HAS APPROVED, UH, A SERIES OF BOND PROGRAMS. THE BLUE BARS ON HERE ARE THE COMPREHENSIVE ONES THAT HAVE HIT, UH, KIND OF A LARGE SWATH OF DEPARTMENTS.

THE GREEN ONES ARE PROGRAM SPECIFIC.

SO 2020 10, UH, 2016 AND 2020 WERE ALL TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY FOCUSED.

AND 2022 WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOCUSED.

UM, THOSE IN THE INTERIM IN 98, 2006, 2012 AND 2018, THOSE WERE KIND OF A GENERAL, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD BOND PROGRAM THAT COVERED MANY, UH, TYPES OF ASSETS.

AND YOU COULD SEE THE TWO, UM, RED HATCHED BARS.

THERE WERE THE TWO PACKAGES THAT HAVE FAILED OVER THE PAST, UM, 20 SOME YEARS.

IN 20 UH, 12, THERE WAS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPOSITION THAT FAILED.

AND THEN IN 2014 WE HAD THE RAIL PACKAGE THAT FAILED.

AND LOOKING AS A WHOLE, UM, VOTERS HAVE AUTHORIZED ABOUT THREE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS SINCE 2006.

YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN HERE ABOUT ALMOST HALF OF THAT HAS GONE TO MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION.

UM, 20% FOR HOUSING, ABOUT 10% FOR DRAINAGE AND WATERSHED FACILITIES AND PARKS.

UM, 4% FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, 7% FOR LIBRARIES, MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTERS, AND 1% FOR HEALTH.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS.

IT'S NOT LOOKING AT OTHER SOURCES, BUT, UM, FROM THIS YOU COULD KIND OF SEE AND KIND OF WHAT YOU'D EXPECT WITH THE RECENT BOND, UM, PACKAGES THAT HAVE

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PASSED, WE HAD SPECIFIC ONES FOR TRANSPORTATION THAT PASSED IN 2016 AND 2020.

WE HAD A HOUSING SPECIFIC ONE MOST RECENTLY IN 2022.

SO THOSE THAT HAVE HAD THOSE, UH, PROGRAM SPECIFIC PACKAGES ARE CARRYING MORE OF LIKE THE TOTAL PICTURE OF WHAT VOTERS HAVE APPROVED SINCE 2006.

AND THEN LASTLY, UM, LOOKING AT THE REMAINING AUTHORITY OUT THERE, WE'VE ABOUT 1.26 BILLION THAT'S BEEN UNSPENT.

UM, AND ABOUT 1.38 BILLION THAT HAS YET TO BE ISSUED IN GEO DEBT.

YOU COULD SEE ON THE TABLE BELOW HOW THAT'S SPLIT UP BY PROPOSITION.

SO, UH, ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN HALF, THAT NUMBER IS STILL REMAINING IN MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WITH ABOUT 689 MILLION.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS ABOUT 348, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF THEIR 2022 PROGRAM.

AND THEN IT GOES DOWN FROM THERE ALL THE, WITH HEALTH WITH THE LOWEST, UM, WITH 2 MILLION SINCE THEIR 2018 PROGRAM WAS EXCLUSIVELY FOR DOVE SPRINGS HEALTH CENTER.

STEVE AND I.

YEP.

THIS SLIDE CONFUSED ME A LITTLE BIT.

MM-HMM.

, THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME.

MM-HMM.

REMAINING AUTHORITY VERSUS DEBT TO BE ISSUED.

SURE.

REMAINING AUTHORITY IS JUST LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE NOT SPENT TO DATE.

SO OUT OF THAT THREE AND A HALF BILLION ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE HAVE NOT PUT 1.26 BILLION OF THAT OUT THE DOOR.

GEO DEBT TO BE ISSUED IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE DON'T ISSUE, UM, UNTIL WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT THE DOLLARS.

SO THERE'S USUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG TIME OF ABOUT ONE YEAR.

THE CITY HAS A LARGE ENOUGH CASH POOL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CASH FUND THINGS FOR ABOUT A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF THE INTERIM UNTIL WE DO THAT REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE BOND ISSUANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF THE LINES OVERLAID WITH EACH OTHER.

IT'S PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY ONE YEAR.

UM, WE'LL COVER THE NEGATIVE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE IN CASH.

SO YOU SPEND IT FIRST, THEN ISSUE YES.

FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS.

YEP.

AND ARE THESE EXPECTED TO BE SPENT IN LESS OR? YEAH, SO, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT SPENDING PLAN, ALMOST EVERYTHING IS GONE BY 2028.

UM, JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, UH, LAST YEAR WE SPENT ABOUT $360 MILLION.

OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 4 50, 3 90 AND 2 27.

SO AT THE END OF THOSE NEXT THREE YEARS, IF WE MEET ALL OUR SPENDING PLANS WHILE ABOUT $200 MILLION LEFT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY GOOD PORTION OF THAT SPENT.

UM, AND THEN YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO WITH ANOTHER BOND UNLESS YOU'VE GOT LESS THAN WHAT, 2 BILLION, UH, TWO YEARS WORTH OR TWO YEARS? TWO YEARS WORTH.

SO, SO WE'LL DEFINITELY BE UNDER THAT THRESHOLD BY, BY THE END OF 26.

WE SHOULD BE THERE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO LOOKING AT THAT, IF WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE ABOUT 1.26 BILLION LEFT NOW, WE'RE SPENDING A LITTLE BIT OVER 400 MILLION A YEAR, AROUND 400 MILLION A YEAR IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, WE SHOULD BE THERE.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TO BE SPENT IN SOME AREAS, BUT THERE MIGHT BE NEEDS CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR MIC PLEASE? WE HAVE NO MONEY.

MM-HMM, , SORRY.

YEAH, IF WE COULD JUST TURN ON THE MIC, JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT SINCE IT SEEMS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON SOME THINGS, BUT NO MONEY IN OTHER AREAS.

SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE TWO YEARS OF MONEY, LIKE CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE? YEAH, SO, UM, THE FINANCIAL POLICY IS JUST WRITTEN AS A WHOLE.

SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT JUST THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO OF WHAT WE HAVE OUT THERE NOW.

SO EVEN THOUGH YOU DO SEE, LIKE, HEALTH OBVIOUSLY ONLY HAS $2 MILLION HERE.

UM, THE LAST TWO BOND PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH, UM, 2012 WAS MONTOPOLIS RECREATION AND COMMUNITY CENTER.

2018 WAS DOVE SPRINGS HEALTH CENTER.

IT WAS BASICALLY THEY HAD TWO PROJECTS IN THE LAST TWO IN THE LAST DECADE PLUS.

UM, SO ONCE THAT DOVE SPRINGS HEALTH CENTER PROJECT IS TOTALLY DONE, I MEAN IT'S OPEN NOW.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF IT FOR THEM THROUGH THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS, UM, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY STILL DOING WORK.

SO WE HAVE OTHER SOURCES.

WE USE CITYWIDE.

UM, SO WE HAVE CERTAIN POLICIES ABOUT CAPITAL REHABILITATION THAT A PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET IS TRANSFERRED TO CIP.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS, HEALTH IS ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT HAS KIND OF RUN OUT OF THIS DEBT SOURCE THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT SEEING THEIR BUILDINGS KIND OF DETERIORATE.

WE'RE GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO DO ROOF REPLACEMENTS, HVAC REPLACEMENTS, KIND OF STANDARD SMALLER SCALE REPAIRS.

JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

SO THE SPENDING IS LIKE A, A RUNOFF OF WHAT WAS SORT OF AUTHORIZED.

SO I THINK THE PREVIOUS SLIDE IS TOWARD, KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE ALLOCATIONS BY AREA.

MM-HMM.

AND PRESUMABLY THE SPENDING RIGHT.

TAKES PLACE SUBSEQUENTLY YEARS.

AND

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THERE MAY BE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FULLY EXPENDED.

AND SO I I THINK SLIDE 11 IS REALLY IMPORTANT, SORT OF SEEING HOW THE BOND AUTHOR AUTHORIZATIONS, HOW THEY'VE BEEN PRIORITIZED BY AREA AS WELL.

RIGHT.

SO I I THINK IT'S WOULD BE EXPECTED TO SEE THAT ON HERE.

UM, MOBILITY AND HOUSING IS THE TOP ONES HOUSING AT 350 MILLION APPROVED IN 2022.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING THEY'VE SPENT DOWN PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEIR 2018 OR STARTING ON 22, IT DOESN'T FOLLOW EXACTLY THAT DOLLAR BY DOLLAR, BUT THEY'RE SPENDING THAT THREE 50 NOW THAT THEY JUST WERE AUTHORIZED WITH ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, OR TWO YEARS AGO, I GUESS NOW.

AND THEN MOBILITY AT 450 THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020, UM, ALONG WITH THOSE 2018 AND 2016 WHERE THEY HAD FUNDING COME IN AS WELL.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THE ENTIRE DEBT NEEDS TO BE LESS THAN TWO YEARS BEFORE NOT, IT'S NOT DONE BY YES, YES.

BUCKET.

IT'S JUST GENERAL ACROSS THE BOARD TO MEET THE FINANCIAL POLICIES.

YEAH.

IS THAT LIKE, THAT'S JUST LIKE AN INTERNAL POLICY PREFERENCE THOUGH, RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S NOT LIKE A STATE LAW OR SOMETHING THAT DICTATES THAT.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FINANCIAL POLICIES.

UM, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THEM FOR A REASON, WE WANT TO FOLLOW THEM.

UM, IF WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THEM THEN THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES START TO GET A LITTLE BIT UNEASY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO IF WE HAVE A POLICY, WE'RE GOING TO IDEALLY FOLLOW IT.

UM, EVERY YEAR THERE'S SOME REVIEW, SOME FINANCIAL POLICIES GET CHANGED.

UM, SO IT'S, I I DON'T THINK, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE LAST TIME THE DEBT ONES HAVE BEEN TOUCHED, BUT, UM, YOU'LL SEE RESERVE REQUIREMENTS FOR SOME UTILITIES OR CERTAIN KINDS OF FUNDS FOR AE OR ANY OF THESE OTHERS CHANGE, UM, CHANGE BY THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE KIND OF IN THE SPRINGTIME BEFORE THE BUDGET HAPPENS, PROPOSED BUDGET HAPPENS.

UM, BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE LAW, BUT IT IS OUR PRACTICE THEN WE SHOULD BE MEETING THAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I DON'T, I DON'T, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE HARD TO SHOW, BUT I DUNNO IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.

UM, I WAS THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE CITY SIDEWALK PROGRAM WHERE MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED BY BONDS.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THEY, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALMOST OUTTA MONEY, BUT THEN THERE, THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT GET FUNDING THROUGH BONDS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT BECAUSE EVEN I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME THINGS ARE GETTING FUNDING IN THE BUDGET AND OTHER PROGRAMS ARE, ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON BONDS.

RIGHT.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK UP AT THE SLIDES OR THIS ONE FOR EXAMPLE, UM, PRETTY MUCH WELL OF, FOR THESE GENERAL GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS.

SO KIND OF LIKE HEALTH, UM, HEALTH IS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 90 SOME PERCENT, UM, OF THEIR SPENDING, UM, IS BOND PROGRAM RELATED.

PARKS AND RECREATION IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO TWO THIRDS.

'CAUSE THEY HAVE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES AND IF LIKE A FEW OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THEY USE.

UM, IT JUST KIND OF VARIES BY DEPARTMENT.

UM, TRANSPORTATION HAS A LOT OF GRANTS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING RECENTLY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO, UM, YEAH, YOU, YOU DO KIND OF HAVE TO LOOK AS LIKE A WHOLE PICTURE IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING CITYWIDE.

UM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS IN GENERAL, IT'S A PRETTY MARGINAL PORTION OF THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

WHEN YOU THINK OF AVIATION, THEY'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THIS AND THEY HAVE THREE, THREE, $4 BILLION EXPANSION GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

CONVENTION CENTER AS IT'S $2 BILLION EXPANSION.

AND THAT'S NOT TOUCHING THIS AT ALL.

SO IT'S, IT REALLY IS KIND OF DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING MM-HMM.

, UM, I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD RECREATE A FACILITY LIKE THE ESPERANZA COMMUNITY AND I WAS TOLD THAT WE COULD BUY THE LAND, BUT NOT THE TINY HOMES WITH GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND MONEY.

MM-HMM.

, WHY IS THAT? I'D HAVE TO ASK MORE ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC CASE.

I, I, UM, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT NOW.

YEAH, I I, I I'M NOT AS, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE.

OKAY.

WE COULD FOLLOW UP.

I HAVE A QUESTION IF I MAY.

UM, IS THERE A WAY TO FIND OUT THE LEVEL OF, AND I HOPE I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY, THE LEVEL OF VOTER APPROVAL FOR EACH OF THE BONDS THAT HAVE BEEN VOTED ON IN THE PAST? BECAUSE WHAT WE FOUND OUT THE LAST TIME THAT THIS GROUP ORGANIZED, UM,

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A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SUPPORTING FLOODING AND DRAINAGE MM-HMM.

ISSUES AND, BUT MOST OF THE FOCUS WAS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WHAT WE FOUND OUT IT WAS, THERE WAS A GREATER APPROVAL ON DRAINAGE FLOODING INFRASTRUCTURE THAN THERE WAS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THAT TOLD ME THAT THE GREATER NEED IS IN ONE AREA THAN WHAT WE PERCEIVED WAS THE NEED.

SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE, LOOK, WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITIES AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THE LEVEL OF VOTER APPROVAL WAS FOR EACH OF THOSE BONDS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

WE CAN OF COURSE GET THE, UM, THE HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, VOTER DATA IN TERMS OF APPROVAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON THE PAST BONDS, BUT THAT'S ALSO GONNA BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL PROPOSITIONS AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THEIR APPETITE, UM, FROM A TOTAL DOLLAR SPEND VALUE, UM, THE IMPACTED TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT ALSO PRIORITIZATION OF, YOU KNOW, RANK ONE THROUGH 10, WHAT ARE YOUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THAT WILL BE UPCOMING AS A PART OF THE BOND EFFORT, GETTING THAT, UH, INPUT.

GREAT.

YES.

AND THANK YOU, UM, COM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS.

I'M GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT VERY CLOSELY BECAUSE IF WE AGREE TO MEET ONLY ON A MONDAY, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME, UM, THEN I KNOW WE'RE LEAVING OUT A HUGE GROUP OF THE COMMUNITY AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT IT LOOKS TO HOW THE QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS THAT ACTUALLY TELLS US WHAT WE'RE MEAN IF WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

SO IF I'LL, I'LL BE, YOU KNOW, CAREFULLY GAUGING THAT.

I'M NOT GONNA TOTALLY AGREE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

UN UNLESS WE DO IT QUALITATIVELY.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORT IS GONNA BE SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS GROUP MEETING ON, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE DECIDE TO MEET, IT'S GONNA BE MEETING THE FOLKS, UH, WHERE THEY'RE AT, WHERE THEY CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE INPUT AND PROVIDE THOSE PRIORITIZATIONS.

AND THERE'S, AS YOU KNOW, A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, TIME OF DAY, DAY OF THE WEEK, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

I GUESS I'LL TAKE OVER.

THANK YOU STEVEN.

DOESN'T WORK.

APPRECIATE IT.

DOESN'T WORK.

OKAY.

POINTED AROUND THE ROOM.

UM, MY NAME'S ERIC BAILEY.

I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES.

I'M HERE WITH, UH, MARCUS HAMMER.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT A LITTLE BIT ON THE BOND ELECTION ADVISORY TASK FORCE AND OVERVIEW OF WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY, WHY OR FOR THIS GROUP, WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND, UH, TALK A A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT, UH, COUNCIL, UM, COUNCIL'S RESOLUTIONS AND WHERE WE COME FROM.

SO TO START OFF, UM, REALLY WHY ARE WE HERE? RIGHT? WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE TO, UH, TO STAFF THE FIRST RESOLUTION DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORTH A COMPREHENSIVE BOND PROGRAM WITH A CLIMATE PROPOSITION NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER OF 2026.

SO WHAT IS A COMPREHENSIVE, UH, BOND PROGRAM? RIGHT? AS STEVEN MENTIONED EARLIER, THESE PROJECTS ARE REALLY FROM ALL OF AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S PARKS, IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S MOBILITY, HOUSING, DRAINAGE, LIBRARIES, MUSEUMS, CULTURAL CENTERS, PUBLIC HEALTH, ANIMAL SERVICES, AND YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE.

UM, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE BOND PACKAGE AND INCLUDING A CLIMATE, UH, PROPOSITION IN THAT BOND PACKAGE.

SO THE SECOND RESOLUTION WE HAVE UP HERE, AND IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THESE, UM, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.

WE'RE HAPPY TO SEND YOU ALL COPIES OF 'EM.

THEY'RE VERY INFORMATIVE IN TERMS OF SORT OF THE RULES OF THE ROAD OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, SO THE SECOND RESOLUTION ESTABLISHES THIS GROUP HERE, SERVING AS AN ADVISORY ROLE TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROJECTS AND POTENTIAL BOND FUNDING THAT WILL ADVANCE THE VISION OF THE CITYWIDE STRATEGIC PLANS AND THE VARIOUS OTHER PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CITY.

SO WE'RE HERE TO ENSURE THAT THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDING, UM, CONSIDER, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND THE STAFF NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND PRIORITIZATION, AS WELL AS OBTAIN COMMUNITY INPUT AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL FOR THOSE BOND PROPOSITIONS.

QUESTION? YES, I THINK I READ THESE, BUT IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

DOES INCLUDING A CLIMATE BOND PROPOSITION MEAN THAT SOME UNDETERMINED PORTION OF THE WHOLE THING HAS TO BE IDENTIFIED AS A CLIMATE BOND PROPOSITION? OR DOES THAT MEAN IT'S ALL ABOUT CLIMATE? I I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S A SUBSET OF THE YEP.

SO WHEN WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE BOND, RIGHT, YOU CAN HAVE, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS, BUT IN THE HISTORICALLY RIGHT, WE'VE HAD THINGS LIKE MOBILITY AND DRAINAGE AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ONE OF THE BOND PROPOSITIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE SURROUNDING CLIMATE PER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND COULD, IT COULD IMPLICATE A BUNCH OF OTHER, YOU KNOW YEAH.

WATER AND TREES AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT IT WOULD BE PACKAGED AS A SINGLE PROPOSITION, CORRECT? YES.

AND JUST TO BE, AND WE DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PROPORTION OF THE WHOLE BOND THAT WOULD BE.

THAT'S PARTLY OUR, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

OKAY.

YEP.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR TOO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE PUT FORTH COMPLY WITH ALL

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OF THE CITY'S, UM, YOU KNOW, ADOPTED RULES AND REGULATIONS RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND GREEN BUILDING AND ALL THOSE OTHER GREAT THINGS.

WE'RE NOT PUTTING FORTH JUST A BUNCH OF PROJECTS WILLY-NILLY.

RIGHT.

THE CLIMATE PROP IN ITSELF IS A STANDALONE FROM ALL THE OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPREHENSIVE BOND, UH, PROPOSITIONS THAT WOULD BE IN THERE.

YEAH.

UH, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 20, 26 MM-HMM.

, I NOTICED ON THE CITY'S LANDING PAGE FOR THIS TASK FORCE, IT SAYS 2026 MM-HMM.

, BATF.

AND I WAS, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE KIND OF CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC.

LIKE THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2026 AND NOT 25 MM-HMM.

, BUT I, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S TO MY, HAS ANYONE MADE THAT DECISION ALREADY? THAT'S NOT WHAT THE RESOLUTION SAYS, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION.

? WELL, THE RESOLUTION SAYS NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 26.

RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T MENTION 2025 IN IT.

SO WE'RE, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS THAT I'LL GET INTO, UH, LATER IN THE PRESENTATION TALKING ABOUT WHY WE THINK THAT THAT, UM, NOVEMBER OF 26, IT WOULD BE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD.

A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH, AS STEVEN MENTIONED, THE, YOU KNOW, BOND SPEND DOWN AND THE FINANCIAL RULES THAT WE'RE OPERATING UNDER.

BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME, UM, WE'RE TURNING THE PAGE A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF OUR BOND PLANNING EFFORT HERE AT THE CITY, AND WE'RE UNDERTAKING A NEW EFFORT, UM, THAT I'LL GET TO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN THE SLIDES, AND IF I DON'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, THEN FEEL FREE TO COME BACK TO ME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP.

SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, UM, UM, THE DETAILS THAT WE, WE, WE WE'RE EXPECTING TO UNFOLD, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DETAILED TIMELINE, RIGHT? YES.

THAT SORT OF BACKS US INTO THIS DATE, THE CRITICAL MILESTONES AND JUNCTURES THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLETE AS A TASK FORCE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

YES.

THAT'D BE FANTASTIC.

YEP.

SO, YEP.

OH, GO AHEAD.

CAN I ASK QUICK ONE TOO? UM, SO THEN WE'RE TO PROVIDE A REPORT BY, UH, JULY OF 2025.

IS THAT JUST AN INTERIM REPORT OR THAT'LL BE THE FINAL PRODUCT, EVEN THOUGH THE BALLOT, THE ELECTION WOULDN'T BE TILL A YEAR LATER.

YEP, THAT WOULD BE AN INTERIM REPORT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT A SCHEDULE SLIDE IN HERE THAT WE CAN LOOK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME MORE, SOME MORE DETAIL.

I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE CLIMATE, UM, PROP QUESTION A LITTLE BIT.

SO ANYTHING WE PUT ON THE BALLOT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE AGS OFFICE, SO IT'S NOT REALLY AS SIMPLE.

PROBABLY IT'S JUST SAYING WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CLIMATE PROP.

IT MAY HAVE TO BE SPLIT UP ACROSS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS, UM, ON WHAT THE AGS OFFICE ALLOWS.

BUT YES, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE CLIMATE RELATED PROJECTS INCLUDED FOR SURE.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS BODY HAS A ROLE TO PLAY IN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.

LIKE YOU SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS GONNA BE 2026.

IT SEEMS LIKE STAFF RECOMMENDATION COULD POTENTIALLY BE DIFFERENT FROM THIS BODY'S RECOMMENDATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMING.

LIKE, IS THAT IT? IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE, YES.

SO ARE WE GONNA HAVE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT POSSIBILITY IN TERMS OF MOVING THROUGH OUR WORK? SO IF WE WANNA HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE RECOMMEND FOR 2025 FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE AT A POINT BY JULY THAT WE CAN PUT THAT FORWARD, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BODY WANTS TO CONSIDER, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH Y'ALL ON THAT.

OKAY.

I'LL SAY I'M COMING INTO IT, YOU KNOW, WITH AN OPEN MIND.

I WANNA HEAR WHAT Y'ALL HAVE TO PRESENT AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, SEEN SOME, SOME THINGS TODAY, BUT I WOULD, I PERSONALLY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND, UM, WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THAT.

AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY, ESPECIALLY FOR PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, I GET NOT POURING MORE MONEY IN WHERE THERE'S OR MORE BOND, UM, CAPACITY IN WHERE IT'S NOT NEEDED, BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN HEARING ABOUT AREAS WHERE IT IS NEEDED.

SO I, I WOULD APPRECIATE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

WHO ARE WE? WHO IS CDS? UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY NEW DEPARTMENT WITH THE CITY CREATED IN, UH, 2023, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

SO WE ARE, UH, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, PROJECT MANAGERS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALISTS, UM, AND BASICALLY WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY'S CIP PROGRAM.

RIGHT? SO, UM, WE DIRECTLY MANAGE OVER 500 ACTIVE PROJECTS REPRESENTING AN INVESTMENT OF $7 BILLION.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE INVOLVED IN, UH, PROJECT CONNECT, THE AIRPORT EXPANSION AS WELL AS THE CONVENTION CENTER.

SO WE ARE THE CITY'S, UM, UH, CENTRALIZED PROJECT MANAGEMENT, UH, HUB.

AND WE PROVIDE, LIKE I SAID, ENGINEERING, UH, ARCHITECTURE, PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY WERE, WE CREATED THE INTERIM CITY

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MANAGER IN 2023 CREATED THIS DEPARTMENT, AS STEVEN SHOWED IN HIS PREVIOUS SLIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IN OUTSTANDING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BOND FUNDING AUTHORITY, AND ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES IS EXPEDITING THE SPEND OF THIS MONEY.

SO WE CAN BE SET UP IN A GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION FOR FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS IN TERMS OF OUR FINANCIAL, UH, AND FIDUCIARY DUTIES TO THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THOSE BOND RATINGS STAY AS HIGH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

SO WE'RE PAYING AS LITTLE INTEREST AS AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO, UM, PART OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ALIGNING THOSE EXPENDITURES.

SO WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, DRAWING DOWN THE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE IN TIME FOR A FUTURE BOND PROGRAM WHERE MORE FUNDING WILL BECOME, UH, AVAILABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO HERE'S THE, UM, IMPROVED BOND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SLIDE I WANNA TALK ABOUT.

SO HISTORICALLY, UM, AFTER A BOND PASSES, STAFF SPENDS ABOUT A YEAR, UM, ON PROJECT PLANNING AND OUTREACH TO MEET THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND, AND PROJECT PRIORITIZATION.

SO FOR THIS BOND, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THAT PLANNING PRIORITIZATION AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, AND MAKING THAT HAPPEN BEFORE THE BOND ELECTION SO THAT THE CITY AS A WHOLE, WE CAN DELIVER THE FULL SCOPE SCHEDULE AND BUDGET OF THE PROJECTS IN ORDER TO DELIVER THEM ON TIME AND FULLY SPEND THE BOND PROCEEDS, UH, WITHIN A SIX YEAR WINDOW.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE'RE USING THE CITY STAFF EXPERTISE TO RECOMMEND PROJECTS WITH THE HIGHEST NEED ACCORDING TO THE RELEVANT, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC PLANS.

SO I, TYING ALL OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING WITH A SPECIFIC STRATEGIC PLAN AND HOW IT ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S GOALS OVERALL.

AND THE OTHER THING, THE TRAP THAT WE'VE FALLEN INTO IN THE PAST IS THAT WE COME FORWARD TO A BOND AND A PROJECT ISN'T NECESSARILY FULLY BAKED IN TERMS OF THE FULL SCOPE SCHEDULE AND BUDGET.

SO WE END UP GOING FOR A BOND ELECTION AND LET'S SAY WE HAVE A $10 MILLION LIBRARY.

AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IT'S LIKE, OH WAIT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PROJECT COST ESTIMATE WAS OFF, IT'S REALLY $12 MILLION AND WE DIDN'T DO ESCALATION.

SO THE TIME YOU GET TO ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT, YOUR $10 MILLION LIBRARY THAT THE VOTERS VOTED ON IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE A 15 OR $17 MILLION LIBRARY.

WE WANNA TAKE ALL THAT IN THE VERY BEGINNING, DO THAT PLANNING EFFORT, DO THAT OUTREACH EFFORT BEFORE IT ACTUALLY GOES TO BOND ELECTIONS.

SO THAT WAY WE'RE SAYING, HEY, THIS IS A $20 MILLION LIBRARY, WE'RE GONNA DELIVER IT IN SIX YEARS AND IT'S GONNA COST $20 MILLION.

UM, IS REALLY THE, THE PRIORITY.

AND IN, IN ADDITION, THIS APPROACH ALLOWS FOR, UM, PHASED IMPLEMENTATION OF LARGER PROJECTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW, UM, YOU KNOW, POLICE TRAINING FACILITY OR NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS OR NEW, YOU KNOW, BIG LARGE SCALE FACILITY, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT FULL PROJECT IN SIX YEARS.

SO WE'RE GONNA SAY, ALL RIGHT, IN THIS BOND PROGRAM, WE'RE GONNA FUND THE DESIGN PHASE OF THAT PROJECT AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE GONNA FINISH IT.

SO THAT WAY WHEN WE COME AROUND NEXT TIME IN ABOUT SIX YEARS FOR THE FUTURE BOND PROGRAM, WE CAN FUND THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

SO IT ALLOWS US TO IDENTIFY THOSE LARGER PROJECTS AND FUND THEM OVER MULTIPLE BOND PROGRAMS. UM, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO IMMEDIATELY MOVE FORWARD INTO THE DESIGN, UH, PROCESS, RIGHT? WHEN THAT, UM, RIGHT WHEN THE BOND ELECTION HAS PASSED.

SO THAT WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, BY DECEMBER, JANUARY WE'RE ABLE TO GO TO COUNCIL WITH CONTRACT AWARDS FOR DESIGN CONSULTANTS AND FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME SMALLER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SPEND THE BOND PROGRAM RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION, UH, TOOK PLACE.

SO IN, IN A HIGH LEVEL, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING THAT 12 TO 18 MONTHS THAT WE USE TO SORT OF SET UP THE PROJECTS AND GET THEM GOING, SHIFTING IT FROM AFTER THE BOND ELECTION TAKES PLACE TO, BEFORE THE BOND ELECTION TAKES PLACE, WHICH IN THE END IS GONNA SAVE US TIME, ALLOW US TO DRAW DOWN THE FUNDS QUICKER, UM, AND BE ABLE TO SET US UP FOR THE, YOU KNOW, ANY SUBSEQUENT BOND ELECTIONS.

CAN I ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THAT? SURE.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DESIGN FOR THAT $20 MILLION LIBRARY BEFORE WE GO TO A BOND ELECTION? THE FULL DESIGN WILL NOT BE COMPLETE, BUT WE WILL HAVE, UH, A HIGH LEVEL PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATE AND SOME PRELIMINARY STUDIES DONE.

SO WE KNOW THAT IT IS A $20 MILLION LIBRARY AND IT'S NOT A $10 MILLION LIBRARY BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE.

I'M A LITTLE SKEPTICAL.

I DON'T BLAME YOU.

YEAH.

ABOUT , ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE A $20 MILLION LIBRARY MM-HMM.

WITHOUT A DESIGN.

MM-HMM.

AND HOW YOU CAN PREVENT ADDITIONAL DECISIONS BEING MADE AFTER THE BOND ELECTION.

YEP.

THAT INCREASE THAT $20 MILLION LIBRARY MM-HMM.

TO A $30 MILLION LIBRARY.

MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING NOW ASKED TO MAYBE ADD UNDERGROUND PARKING INTO THE LIBRARY THAT YOU JUST HADN'T PLANNED ON.

I THINK I KNOW THE PROJECT'S AN EXAMPLE .

YEAH.

NO, AND THAT, AND THAT'S PART OF IT TOO, IS IT'S COMING FORTH AND WHEN WE COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL INTO THIS BODY AND OTHERS TO SAY, LOOK, THIS IS A $20 MILLION AND THIS IS THE SCOPE.

IF YOU ADD AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE, WELL THERE'S ANOTHER $10 MILLION THAT'S GONNA GO ON TOP OF IT.

WE CAN'T BUILD $30 MILLION OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR $20 MILLION, CANNOT DO IT.

RIGHT?

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AND SO HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND SAYING, OKAY, WELL UNLESS, UM, UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE RIGHT LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT, MAYBE THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO SIT, OR MAYBE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE APPROPRIATE SCOPE IS.

BUT JUST TACKING ON SCOPE AND SCOPE AND SCOPE AND NOT ADDING DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO.

AND WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

AND WE NEED TO, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CDS HAS, AND ONE OF OUR MORE CHALLENGING THINGS IS STANDING UP AND SAYING, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO GET THE MOST WE CAN FOR OUR MONEY, BUT YOU'RE ADDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SCOPE AND ADDING $0 IN FUNDING, AND IT'S JUST YOU'RE PUTTING STAFF AND OUR CONTRACTORS AND DESIGNERS IN A REALLY CHALLENGING POSITION WHEN, WHEN WE THAT HAPPENS.

SO, AND, AND THE WORK BEFORE THE BOND ELECTION MM-HMM.

IS GONNA BE PAID FOR OUTTA OPERATING FUNDS.

WE HAVE, THERE'S SOME OPERATING FUNDS.

THERE'S ALSO PART OF THE 20, UM, 25 BUDGET, UM, FINANCIAL SERVICES SET ASIDE ABOUT $1.3 MILLION TO FUND, UH, SOME OF THAT WORK.

SO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE RELATIVELY HIGH LEVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATES, BUT IT'S GONNA BE AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN WE'VE EVER DONE IN THE PAST.

THANK YOU.

SO MY QUESTION IS, AND I HOPE I'M NOT GETTING TOO IN THE WEEDS, BUT SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S GONNA BE AN INITIAL RECOMMENDATION LIST THAT WILL BE STAFFED THIS BOARD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BEFORE YOU GO INTO MORE OF THE DETAILS, BECAUSE I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS INITIAL RECOMMENDATION LIST WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET MORE INFORMATION FOR THE BOND PACKAGE, WHICH I'M ALL EXCITED ABOUT 'CAUSE OF PAST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE HOW WE'RE MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC AND US ARE INCLUDED IN THAT.

YEP.

SO STAFF'S WORKING ON A NEEDS ASSESSMENT RIGHT NOW.

SO EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS ARE SAYING, GOING THROUGH THEIR LIST BASED ON THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING DOCUMENTS TO SAY, THIS IS OUR TOTAL LIST OF NEEDS, AND WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THIS IN, IN FUTURE MEETINGS WITH THIS GROUP TALKING ABOUT SCORING CRITERIA, HOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE EVALUATED AGAINST EACH OTHER.

AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD TO THIS GROUP AND SAY, HERE'S THE STAFF NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF RANKED PROJECTS.

RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THROUGH A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC PROCESS, WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC THINK OF THESE PROJECTS? HOW, HOW DO THEY RANK UP? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIZATIONS? AND THEN PART OF THE PIECE IN BETWEEN THERE IS GONNA BE, THERE'S, 'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TIME FROM THE, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT TO THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT THROUGH TO THE FULL, YOU KNOW, BOND ELECTION, UM, SAYING BASICALLY DOING THOSE HIGH LEVEL PRELIMINARY REPORTS SAYING YES, THIS IS A REALISTIC COST ESTIMATE.

RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, TPW WANTS TO BUILD A NEW BRIDGE, RIGHT? AND THEY COME AND SAY, WELL, WE THINK IT'S $10 MILLION BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PAST DATA.

IT'S LIKE, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S FINE AND IT'S PROBABLY RELATIVELY CLOSE, BUT WE NEED TO DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT, RIGHT? ARE THEY USING JUST THE TEXT DOT STANDARD BRIDGE NUMBERS VERSUS WHAT WOULD BE PROBABLY A MORE CUSTOM BRIDGE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT ON A CITY STREET? THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO TRYING TO ALIGN THOSE COST ESTIMATES AND SCHEDULES AND SCOPES TO WHAT'S A REALISTIC EXPECTATION FOR ACTUALLY DELIVERING THAT PROJECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION REALLY QUICKLY, I MEAN, I THINK THIS GROUP IS PROBABLY IS ENGAGED AND MIGHT HAVE IDEAS OF I THAT MIGHT NOT, THE STAFF MIGHT NOT BE CONSIDERING.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING? YOU KNOW, I SIT ON THE, I'M THE CHAIR OF THE MILLENNIUM BOARD.

MM-HMM.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT SITS ONLY IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MEAN, IT'S A HUGE COMMUNITY RESOURCE THAT WOULD LIKE, AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING WHETHER OR NOT I'M RECOMMENDING, BUT I MEAN THAT'S A, LIKE A STAFF CONSIDERING THAT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION ABOUT THINGS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND THINGS THAT WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE.

WHEN DO WE GET TO SHARE THAT IF THERE'S GONNA BE THIS INITIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND PUBLIC PROCESS IS ACTUALLY A CALL FOR PROJECTS FROM FOLKS, FROM COUNCIL OFFICES, FROM THE PUBLIC.

UM, NOW THAT BEING SAID, THE EXAMPLE I ALWAYS USE IS BUILDING A GONDOLA DOWN, YOU KNOW, SOUTH CONGRESS.

IT'S LIKE, WELL THAT'S FINE IF YOU WANNA PRESENT THAT, BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME SCORING CRITERIA AND SOME THINGS LIKE STAFF HAD TO GO THROUGH.

YOU CAN'T JUST THROW A PROJECT AGAINST THE WALL AND WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT IN FULL SERIOUSNESS AND EVALUATE IT.

SO, UM, BUT THERE WILL BE A, A ROBUST ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR FOLKS TO, TO SUBMIT PROJECTS TO US AS WELL.

SO, SO THANK YOU ON THAT.

SORRY, ON THE TIMELINE IT SAYS WE ARE HERE AND IT SAYS, WHICH IMPLIES THAT THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS DONE.

YES.

BUT IT'S NOT IS RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE'RE WAITING TO, FOR YOU TO GIVE THAT TO US, RIGHT? THE, THE STAFF NEEDS.

THE STAFF HAS, WELL, STAFF IS 98% DONE WITH THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED THAT TO Y'ALL YET BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE VETTED BY US INTERNALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE REQUIRED INFORMATION'S THERE.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES FOR, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS NOW ON GATHERING THIS, KNOWING THAT THIS WAS COMING, RIGHT.

WORKING WITH STAFF TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA NEED YOUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

WE'RE GONNA NEED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SCORING CRITERIA, HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE RANKED AND THAT KIND OF THING.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED IT YET, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL COME TO Y'ALL, UM, IN, IN FUTURE MEETINGS HERE.

AND WE CAN THE NEXT MEETING PERHAPS, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'LL BE READY BY THE NEXT MEETING.

WELL, SO THE OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT, IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT US REPORTING OUT IN MAY.

YES.

WHICH IS FOUR MONTHS BEFORE THE RESOLUTION REQUIRES A REPORT.

SO I'M

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WONDERING HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE LOSING THOSE FOUR MONTHS? JUNE, JUNE ONE IS THE, UH, OF 25 IS THE INITIAL, UH, REPORT FROM THE VT IS WHEN THAT'S DUE TO COUNCIL.

OKAY.

JUNE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JULY ONE, SORRY.

JULY.

THERE'S NO MEETINGS IN JULY.

JUNE 5TH IS THE, IS THE ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETING DATE OF 2025 WHEN IT'S DUE.

SO WE'LL GO AROUND THE TABLE HERE, UM, FOR THE SCORING CRITERIA.

AND, AND AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, GIVEN THE COUNCIL'S, UH, DIRECTIVE TO FOCUS ON CLIMATE, I WONDER IF THE STAFF COULD INCLUDE A EMISSIONS, UH, ESTIMATE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY GIVEN PROJECT.

YOU KNOW, SO WE KNOW THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.

YEP.

UH, OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY IS INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE GROUPS THAT WE'VE BEEN BEEN CONVENING, UM, AND INVOLVED IN THE SCORING CRITERIA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE, IT'S, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE SCORING CRITERIA AND HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT DOING THAT IS GONNA BE A VERY LARGE MEETING.

ALL, ALL ON ITS OWN TALKING ABOUT THOSE, UH, CRITERIA AND, AND WHAT GOES INTO THAT.

SO YES, THANK YOU.

UM, I DON'T RECALL MY, REMEMBER MY COLLEAGUES, UM, NAME, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS YOU GO THROUGH SLIDE, UM, 17 AND TALK ABOUT THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BATF MM-HMM.

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UM, CERTAINLY THERE'S AN OVERSIGHT BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE THAT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION COMPONENTS AND MAYBE HIGH LEVEL ON WHAT THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND MAKING SURE THERE'S NO PROJECT SCOPE CREEP AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS.

MM-HMM.

AND THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

YEAH.

UM, I, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING, SO I DID JUST WANNA INTRODUCE MYSELF AND I WAS ON THE 2018, UH, BOND ADVISORY TASK FORCE.

SO HAPPY TO TALK INDIVIDUALLY WITH ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS LIKE.

AND, UM, AND I, I'M RACHEL, UM, YEAH, I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS KIND OF SIMILAR, UH, AROUND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF THAT AND KIND OF, I GUESS IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THAT TIMELINE, I'M HOPING I, I THINK I'M HEARING THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR PROCESS AND I GUESS MAYBE TO YOUR OFFER THAT WAS PART OF Y'ALL'S PROCESS BEFORE, LIKE YOU DID THAT AS PART OF THE TASK FORCE OR I WAS JUST LOOKING ON THE WEBSITE AND SEEING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

YEAH, I MEAN, AND YEAH, SO THE, AND HOW I WOULD CHARACTERIZE WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE PLAN EXACTLY, BUT WE SPLIT UP INTO DIFFERENT GROUPS AND THERE WAS, WE WERE SETTING OUR OWN TIME THAT PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO COME IN AND GIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO OUR SMALLER, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE STACK IS HERE, BUT WE HAD DIFFERENT, UM, COMMITTEES THAT WE EACH HAD THEIR OWN CHAIR AND THEY HAD THEIR OWN TIME THAT THEY WERE RECEIVING PUBLIC INFORMATION.

SO THERE WAS THAT COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS.

AND THEN AFTER THE BOND PACKAGE WAS PUT TOGETHER, THEN IT WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN THERE WAS AN ENTIRE SEPARATE COMMUNITY INPUT PROCESS WHERE WE WERE GOING INTO OUR VARIOUS DISTRICTS AND HAVING PEOPLE COME IN AND LOOK AT WHAT THE PROPOSED PACKAGE WAS AND PEOPLE WERE GIVING FEEDBACK SPECIFICALLY ON THAT.

SO THERE WERE REALLY TWO SEPARATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY IMPACT INPUT, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

I'M, I, I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT.

SO, UM, WE, AND A LOT OF VARIOUS IDEAS FROM WHATEVER CENTER TO GONDOLAS AND ALL THAT.

SO, YEAH.

WELL, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN, UH, JUST IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE IS, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS SOME KIND OF WHAT I WOULD CALL INPUT AND THEN SOME FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, INPUT BEING BEFORE, UH, THE PROPOSAL.

AND I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF MAYBE WHAT YOU WERE GETTING TO.

SO WHEN GL ANTICIPATE, OR WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING TO SCHEDULE THAT IN TERMS OF THE, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? WELL, SPECIFICALLY YES.

COMMUNITY INPUT UHHUH BEFORE THINGS ARE FINALIZED.

YEAH.

SO THAT WOULD BE SEMI FINALIZED RIGHT NOW THAT'S TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR THE SUMMER OF 2025.

UM, AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT, RIGHT, IS WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO, WE DON'T WANT TO GO, WHICH IS LIKE A BLANK SLATE, RIGHT? WE WANT TO GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IS BASED ON THE EXISTING STRATEGIC PLANS, WHICH ALL HAD THEIR OWN LEVEL OF COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WENT INTO THEM AS WELL.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST STAFF IN, IN A ROOM SAYING, OH, I LIKE THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS BASED ON ALL THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER THE MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND PRIORITIZING THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN COMING FORTH WITH IT IS A VERY MUCH INITIAL RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THOSE PLANS FOR THEN INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY Y'ALL, FROM, FROM EVERYONE ELSE.

UM, AND THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, UM, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING THE WORKING GROUP TYPE OF MODEL REALLY SURROUNDED AROUND EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPOSITION LIKELY IS GONNA BE THE, THE WAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

UM, AND THEN HAVING THAT, UM, INPUT, HAVING FOLKS BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON EXISTING PROJECTS AS WELL AS PROPOSE, UH, PROJECTS OF THEIR OWN, IF THEY SEE A NEED OR SEE SOMETHING THAT WE MISSED IN THE, IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT WOULD HAPPEN MORE LIKE IN THE WINTER, SUMMER OF 25, THE, THE WORKING GROUPS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?

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YES.

SO AGAIN, THAT LIKE DOESN'T SEEM TO LEAVE OPEN THE DOOR FOR IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO PUT UP FOR 2025.

THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ARE FULLY VETTED AS WELL AS VETTED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNICAL STAFF TO MAKE SURE IT'S TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE BUT THEN ALSO VETTED BY THE PUBLIC AND THAT THAT DOES TAKE TIME.

YES.

WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE WANNA LEAVE THE, THE DOOR OPEN FOR 2025, WE SHOULD DO SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH MUCH SOONER, LIKE IN THE WINTER, EARLY SPRING.

AND I'M ALL FOR HAVING MORE THAN LESS.

ALRIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO MARCUS TO FINISH OUT THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE SLIDES THAT I WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BRINGING 'EM UP, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE MANY OF THESE SLIDES DO RELATE TO THE EXACT QUESTIONS THAT YOU WERE ASKING AS FAR AS LIKE PROCESSES AND METHODOLOGIES AND HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH CERTAIN PRACTICES HERE.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, THIS IS THE SAME SLIDE THAT WE DID PRESENT AT THE OCTOBER 21ST MEETING, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF TALKING THROUGH THE BTS ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, AND YOU KNOW, KEY, KEY SERVICE FACTORS, RIGHT? JUST SERVING IN AN ADVISORY ROLE, YOU KNOW, AND THE BIG PORTION OF THIS IS REALLY OBTAINING THE COMMUNITY INPUT.

THERE WILL BE A VERY ROBUST, UH, ROBUST, UH, COMMITTEE INPUT PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH THIS.

UM, AND YOU ARE THE SPOKESPERSONS, UM, FOR YOUR COUNCIL DIS RESPECTIVE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY THE TEAM'S OVERALL EFFORT HERE IS PRESENTING THAT PACKAGE.

THAT'S, THAT THAT'S GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING PROPOSING IN 20 20 26.

SO, UM, WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE 22 APPOINTEES, SO A FULL QUORUM AS WE VOTE ON CERTAIN THINGS IS TYPICALLY 12, RIGHT, THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE FOR OUR VOTES.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND THEN WE HAVE TWO, UH, INDIVIDUAL APPOINTEES PER COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME IS THAT THERE'S NO REAL ACTION AFTER THIS IS ALL KIND OF OVER WITH.

THIS COMMITTEE JUST KIND OF DISSOLVE, DISSOLVES ON ITS OWN END, SO THERE'S NO, NO REAL SPECIAL ACTION ON THAT.

UM, BUT REALLY LET'S MOVE INTO THE SLIDES THAT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF MORE ENGAGING WITH THE MEMBERS.

THIS IS EXACTLY KIND OF WHERE EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT AND IT KIND OF ASKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO, UM, PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECT SELECTION, UH, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY A MULTI-CRITERIA DATA-DRIVEN, UM, PROCESS.

AND IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE LITTLE MIDDLE CIRCLE RIGHT THERE, THAT'S REALLY THE KIND OF THE BOND PROGRAM.

AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ANY RANKING AS THESE KIND OF BUBBLES GO AROUND.

BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COUNCIL POLICY, YOU KNOW, THEIR OBJECTIVES, HOW THEY DRIVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT AS STAFF WE WORK TO IMPLEMENT.

SO WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THERE'S LEVERAGING OPPORTUNITIES, OF COURSE FROM THE COUNTIES, FROM THE STATE GRANTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT MAY BE SITTING OUT THERE KIND OF, UH, AVAILABLE FOR US.

AND THEN AGAIN, ERIC TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE PLANS, LIKE IMAGINE AUSTIN, UM, THE DEPARTMENT, STRATEGIC LONG RANGE PLANS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC ENDPOINT METHODOLOGIES FROM BOARDS TO COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCE HEARINGS HERE THAT WE WE'RE DOING TODAY.

UM, OUR DEPARTMENT ASSETS, YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT PLANS, AND OF COURSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL, EVEN JUST CURRENT BOND PROJECTS, WHAT'S OUT THERE? IS THERE A PHASE TWO THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN? UM, PLANNING AROUND ALL THAT DIFFERENT WORK THAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE.

SO, UM, NONE OF THIS IS KIND OF JUST ONE, YOU KNOW, STAFF PERSON KIND OF CREATING THIS IN A SILO, RIGHT? THIS IS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND PROCESSES THAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THIS THAT KIND OF DRIVES AND CREATES THIS, THIS PROJECT AND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND THEN IT'S LIKE WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, KINDA LIKE WHAT IS THE BOND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? I MEAN, YOU HEARD ERIC TALK ABOUT FIRST AND FOREMOST THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS HAVE THAT COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT, RIGHT? WHAT IS THE CITY'S INVENTORY? HOW MUCH CAPITAL NEED IS REALLY OUT THERE? AND THEN WE KIND OF TAKE THAT FROM A HIGHER LEVEL, RIGHT? THE NEXT REALLY THING IS HOW DO WE CREATE THAT METHODOLOGY TO RANK AND PRIORITIZE THESE PROJECTS AND KIND OF COME FORWARD, UM, WITH THIS LIST THAT WE CAN, WE CAN BRING TO THE B TIFF.

UM, AND THEN THE ULTIMATE GOAL THROUGH PUBLIC INPUT IN THAT PROCESS IS AS A B TIFF KIND OF REFINES THAT LIST, RIGHT? AND TAKES THAT BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAYS, HERE'S WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THAT BOND ELECTION.

SO FROM A HIGH LEVEL, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS