* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR, UH, BEING IN THIS MEETING ON THIS CALL. CHILLY DAY, EVENING HERE. UM, FIRST MEETING OF 2025 [CALL TO ORDER] FOR US. UH, UH, IT IS, UH, OUCH. NOT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE STAT I WANTED. UH, 6:40 PM MONDAY, JANUARY 6TH. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER. UH, WE HAVE A MUSICAL [MUSICAL PERFORMANCE] PERFORMANCE, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT IN BY COMMISSIONER GARAL, WHO, IF, UH, YOU WOULD PLEASE LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE ARTIST. YEAH. THEY'RE CALLED BUBBA LUCKY. AND THEY'RE THESE, MIKE, IS THIS NOT ON? SO THAT YOUR COMMISSIONERS CAN HEAR YOU. YEAH. LUCK. I WON'T. NO, IT'S ON. MAKE SURE YOU, AM I GOOD HERE? YOU'RE PERFECT. OKAY. SORRY. IT'S A NEW ROOM ISH. UH, SO THE BAND'S CALLED BUBBA LUCKY. THEY'RE AMAZING PERFORMERS, LOCAL AUSTIN PEOPLE. UM, AND THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE A SUPER GROUP OF A BUNCH OF THESE LIKE REALLY BRAD BANDS THAT GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED TO DO THIS KIND OF MORE FUN, UH, LIGHTHEARTED MUSIC, UH, BUT FILLED WITH REALLY AUTHENTIC, UH, INSTRUMENTS. SO, SUPER COOL. HOPE YOU ENJOY IT. THANK YOU. MY BABY GETS READY. WE'RE GONNA DIE. THE WEIGHT IS SO HEAVY. I'M WAY LINE STEADY. I THINK I'M DOING JUST FINE. I BANG. WILL TAKE IT WILL TAKE IT OVER ME. TIME AWAY. COME IT OVER. WILL TAKE IT OVER. TAKE IT OVER IT. HIGH. MY BABY. READY? WE'RE ALL DIE WEIGHT, SO HEAVY LINE. STEADY. I'M DOING COME IT. [00:05:17] THANK YOU. THANKS TO THE AUTHOR. AND, UH, THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO, AS WELL AS, UH, OF COURSE OUR MUSIC DEPARTMENT AND SHELBY, UH, FOR, UM, UM, BRINGING MUSIC TO US HERE, UH, EVERY TIME AT THE COMMISSION. UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, MORE, UH, THIS YEAR. UH, DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? SHELBY, DID YOU, WERE YOU SAYING SOMETHING? OKAY. THERE WE GO. I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY LOOK LIKE REAL ROCK STARS. THESE ANGLES WERE STRICTLY FOR BUBBLE LUCKY. NOBODY ELSE HAS HAD LIKE THE, THEY WERE REALLY PUTTING IT IN FOR YOUR BAND. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING BUBBLE LUCKY TO US. THAT'S AWESOME. UH, COMMISSIONERS. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES. UH, IF EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER MEETING, IF SOMEBODY COULD MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER CASADA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSENTHAL. UM, ALL IN FAVOR WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER AGUILAR, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD ONLINE. UM, ALRIGHT. THE MOTION'S APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. MOVING ON TO STAFF [2. Live Music Fund collections briefing by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department. ] BRIEFINGS, UH, LIVE MUSIC, FUN COLLECTIONS. BRIEFING BY KIM MC CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, EDD. THANK YOU, KIM. HELLO. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. UM, SO YES, I'M GIVING THE REPORT FOR THE COLLECTIONS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. WE HAVE OUR SECOND MONTH UP HERE, WHICH IS, UM, OH, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND PUT THE PRESENTATION UP THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE? IT SAYS HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX ITEM TWO, ITEM TWO. SO YOU CAN, UH, IF YOU HAVE YOUR HARD COPY IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG. AND, UM, I THINK WE'LL HAVE THIS PRESENTATION UP IN A MINUTE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ONLINE. UM, BUT THE NOVEMBER TAX, UH, AMOUNT WAS, UH, 159,000, UM, 710 FOR A TOTAL FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS SO FAR OF 855,851. HAVE YOU, CAN YOU FIND THAT, UH, PRESENTATION? OH, GREAT. OKAY. JUST A REMINDER, COMMISSIONERS, THE, ALL THE DOCUMENTS FOR THIS EVENING ARE IN YOUR EMAILS AND YOUR INVITATIONS. SO IF YOU'RE JOINING VIRTUALLY, YOU CAN ALSO ACCESS THAT THERE WHILE WE WAIT. THANK YOU. SHELBY . OKAY. YEAH. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER Y LIKE SHELBY SAID, YOU HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE HARD COPY OR TO A PDF COPY. UM, SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COLLECTIONS, UH, DATE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, GIVE ME A FEW, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GIVE A MOMENT. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I CAN'T, I, I COULDN'T RECALL WHAT, WHAT MONTH WAS THE 8 56? 6 0 8. PROBABLY OCTOBER. OKAY. OCTOBER. THANK YOU. OKAY. 9 61. 9 26. 8 53. OKAY. UM, DID YOU, YEAH, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I CAN USE THIS. YEAH, I REALIZE WE DON'T, IT'S HARD TO GET AN ACCURATE COUNT MONTH TO MONTH, AND THERE ARE REVENUES THAT MAY HAVE [00:10:01] COME IN THAT ARE NOT BEING REPORTED, BUT LAST YEAR AT THIS POINT, WE HAD 926 K AFTER THE FIRST TWO MONTHS. AT, AT THIS POINT, WE ARE ONLY HAVE 853 K. SO WE'RE DOWN, UH, UH, 10%, UM, OVER WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. SO JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOMETHING TO WATCH. I HOPE THIS GETS FIXED. I, I, I HOPE NEXT MONTH WE RETURN TO NORMAL. OTHERWISE, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING A TREND OF BEING BELOW WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR. MM-HMM . NO. YEAH, IT, THERE IS A, THERE IS A SLIGHT DECREASE. YOU'RE RIGHT. UM, THERE'S A SLIGHT DECREASE. UM, ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE REPORTS ARE LIKE TWO MONTHS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE PAST. SO BY THE TIME I GET THE NUMBERS AND THEN REPORT THEM TO YOU, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JANUARY AND I'M REPORTING NOVEMBER NUMBERS. SO, YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KIM. ALRIGHT, LET ME GET BACK TO THE AGENDA HERE. THE NEXT TOPIC [3. Austin Live Music Fund briefing by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music and Entertainment Division.] IS AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND BRIEFING BY ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION. HELLO EVERYONE. ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER. SHELBY, ARE WE ABLE TO GET UP THIS PAGE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. OH, NO, BUT I HAVE YOUR, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. OKAY. SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST AN UPDATE OF THIS, OF THE STATISTICS PAGE FOR THE 2024 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND PROGRAM, WHICH EXPLAINS HOW MANY AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN EXECUTED, HOW MANY PAYMENTS, ET CETERA. AND SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT BESIDES THAT, THAT THINGS ARE GOING REALLY WELL. SO OUT OF THE 136 TOTAL GRANT AWARDS, 136 GRANT AWARDS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. 129 AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN SIGNED. UM, 134 COMPLETED GRANT AGREEMENT ORIENTATION SO FAR. UH, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO DO THE ORIENTATION BEFORE YOU CAN SIGN IT. SO IT COULD BE THAT PEOPLE HAVE DONE THE ORIENTATION AND THEY HAVE NOT SIGNED IT YET. AND THEN 129 COMPLETED. FINANCIAL INFORMATION FORMS OUT OF 136 FORMS SENT SO FAR. THAT'S THE BANKING INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE PAYMENTS, UH, PROCESSED. AND SO WE'VE PROCESSED 116 FIRST PAYMENTS AND 23 SECOND PAYMENTS. SO FAR, AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR CADENCE ON THE FIRST AND SECOND PAYMENT. IT'S MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE READY, YOU'RE READY AND YOU DO YOUR PROGRESS REPORT. AND SO, SO FAR WE'VE HAD 23, UM, AWARDEES DO THEIR PROGRESS REPORT FOR THEIR SECOND PAYMENT. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ERICA. COMMISSIONERS. QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, ? ANYBODY ONLINE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, THE NEXT [4. Music Commission Meeting Municipal guidelines and responsibilities briefing by Shelbi Mitchell, Program Coordinator, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department. ] AGENDA ITEM IS MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, MUNICIPAL GUIDELINES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. UH, BRIEFING BY SHELBY MICHELLE, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, EDD. DID WE GET IT SITUATED FOR THE LAST ONE, DAVID? HUH? NO, WE ARE ON FOUR AND IF I NEED TO, I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN. JUST LET ME KNOW. UM, BUT WHILE WE GET THAT SITUATED, I HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY. WE'RE HERE. WE MADE IT TO ANOTHER YEAR. WHICH ITEM? I GOT YOU. I'LL SHARE IT, I'LL SHARE IT. UM, WE'RE HERE IN A NEW YEAR. HAD A PRODUCTIVE ONE LAST YEAR. SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT UNFOLDS IN 2025, ESPECIALLY BECOMING A TIGHTER, MORE PRODUCTIVE, NOT THAT Y'ALL WEREN'T BEFORE, BUT, UM, SO EXCITED TO SEE US COME CLOSER. IT JUST REALLY GETS STUFF DONE THIS YEAR. WITH THAT BEING SAID, NEW ELECTION, WE MAY HAVE SOME NEWCOMERS AND WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT US. UM, SO WE WILL HAVE SOME NEW PEOPLE JOINING US. WITH ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, I WANTED TO PREPARE SOMETHING FOR OUR COMMISSION THAT WE CAN HAVE AS A RESOURCE GOING THROUGH THE YEAR ON PROTOCOL. AND JUST BEST PRACTICE BEING A COMMISSIONER, A PART OF THIS MUSIC COMMISSION, BECAUSE I'M VERY AWARE EVERYBODY DOES IT DIFFERENTLY, BUT WE'VE JUST DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB OF SETTING THAT EXAMPLE AND ALSO JUST A GOOD PRACTICE FOR OURSELVES. SO I HAVE A WOO, EXCUSE ME, I'M HOT. I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I'VE PREPARED, UM, TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY. I'LL EMAIL IT TO YOU. I'M TRYING TO SHARE MY SCREEN. I'M TRYING TO SHARE IT ONE SECOND. HERE WE GO. LET'S SHARE IT. SO I HAVE CREATED SOMETHING THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE HELPFUL AS WE GET THROUGH 2025 AND ALSO GIVE TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS. [00:15:01] AND I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY GO OVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE COVERED IN THIS DOCUMENT. I WILL EMAIL IT TO YOU. BUT THERE ARE POINTS THAT I WANT US TO CONTINUE TO ALWAYS GO BACK TO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS YEAR. IN THIS DOCUMENT, YOU WILL HAVE ALL OF OUR, AS A PART OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU WILL SEE ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS AND ALL OF THE DIVISIONS THAT WE HOUSE HERE, AS WELL AS OUR LEADERSHIP. UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME CHANGES. WE SAY GOODBYE TO AN AMAZING LEADER AND WE SAY WELCOME TO A NEW ONE THAT I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW WE ALL MESH TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER. AND THEN WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MORGAN. SO THIS IS YOUR CREW. AIN'T NOTHING NEW. WE ARE STILL HERE AND WE'RE ROCKING WITH YOU AND OUR WEBPAGE. AND THEN WE GET INTO THINGS THAT OUR COMMISSION SHOULD BE AWARE OF IS IMPORTANT AS THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR MUSIC DIVISION AND WITH OUR STAFF AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME PROGRAMS WE'RE COVERING SO THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS OUT. AND YOU'RE VERY WELL-ROUNDED AROUND INFORMATION THAT IS IN THESE PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS OUR EVENTS, AS WELL AS OUR OTHER INITIATIVES. 'CAUSE WE ARE MORE THAN JUST THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT, BUT WE DO A LOT AS A STAFF. AND YOU SHOULD BE AWARE. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS CRUCIAL TO YOUR MEMBERSHIP OR YOUR TERM. AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMISSION IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOUR ROLE ACTUALLY IS AS A COMMISSIONER, UM, AND YOUR COMMITMENT. SO I'LL LEAVE THESE FOR YOU TO REVIEW 'CAUSE IT IS A LONG DOCUMENT AND I KNOW WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION AROUND THE LIVE MUSIC ON LATER. BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A COMMISSIONER AND YOUR ROLE, YOUR ACTUAL ROLE IN CONNECTION WITH STAFF, AND ALSO CONNECTING THE CITY. YOU ARE A CRUCIAL PART OF BRINGING COMMUNITY AND US AS A CITY TOGETHER. THERE'S HOUSE RULES AND HOW WE DO THINGS. WE LEAD WITH A LOT OF RESPECT AND WE'VE DONE GREAT SO FAR. AND I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO KEEP THAT IN MIND IN HERE. AND THEN WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE IN THE WORLD, Y'ALL ARE AN AMAZING COMMISSION AND WE'VE DONE WELL HERE. SO THIS IS JUST FOR THE NEWCOMERS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT. ATTENDANCE GUIDELINES, REALLY WANNA HONE IN HERE. I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE REALLY BUSY AND YOU HAVE A LOT GOING ON, BUT IT'S SO CRUCIAL AND IMPERATIVE THAT WE, YOU AND I, COMMISSIONER T SHELBY MITCHELL, COMMUNICATE ON WHEN YOU CAN MAKE IT AND WHEN YOU CANNOT MAKE IT. AND IT IS VERY HELPFUL AS A COURTESY AS WELL TO NOT LET ME KNOW THE DAY OF MEETINGS AS I PREPARE THE WEEK BEFORE. SO JUST LOOK OVER THAT AND BECOME VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IT MEANS IF YOU MISS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MEETINGS. THERE ARE TRAININGS, THERE ARE TRAININGS, AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS VERY, VERY INTENTIONAL WITH REMOVING PEOPLE THAT DO NOT DO THEIR TRAININGS. AND I DON'T GET THE REMINDERS AROUND THAT BY, THE ONLY REMINDER I GET IS THAT SO-AND-SO THEIR SEAT IS VACANT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DO THEIR TRAININGS. SO BE MINDFUL OF YOUR EMAILS, PLEASE LOOK AT THEM, PLEASE READ THEM AS FAR AS DEADLINES AND GET THOSE TRAININGS IN BECAUSE IT JUST CATCHES PEOPLE OFF. GUARD YOUR TERM. IF YOU ARE IN A SEASON OR YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT RENEWING OR JUST TRANSITIONING OUT, PLEASE BE SURE TO CONTACT ME, TALK TO ME. I'LL CONNECT YOU WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH WITH THAT PROCESS. AND WHATEVER YOU NEED, I'M HERE TO HELP. BUT BE MINDFUL OF YOUR TERMS, AGENDAS, AGENDAS, AGENDAS. WE GET STARTED ON AGENDAS RIGHT AFTER OUR MEETINGS. SO WHATEVER Y'ALL TALK ABOUT, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, IT'S NOT HARD TO ADD IT TO THE NEXT AGENDA. SO AS SOON AS I WORK ON THAT, I SEND IT TO STAFF, WE REVIEW IT, WE LOOK OVER IT, AND THEN I SEND IT TO YOU ALL. YOU HAVE AT LEAST FIVE DAYS TO LOOK OVER IT. IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING, IF YOU WANT TO AMEND ANYTHING, YOU CAN GET THAT ALL DONE IN YOUR EMAIL. SO ALL THAT NEEDS, ALL THAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS THAT SHELBY NEEDS TO HAVE FINALIZED AGENDAS THE MONDAY BEFORE OUR MEETING. IT, IT'S JUST CRUCIAL TO HAVE, 'CAUSE IT ALLOWS US CUSHION, IF ANYTHING WERE TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE A WHOLE FIVE DAYS OF A REALLY GOOD AGENDA THAT WE'RE CONFIDENT IN. AND IF ANYTHING WERE TO HAPPEN, WE CAN GET IT. WE CAN STICK IT IN THERE. BUT THAT'S WORST CASE SCENARIO. EVERYTHING ELSE, AND WE'LL ADD TO THIS, THIS WILL BE A DOCUMENT THAT IS BREATHING. THINGS WILL CHANGE IN THE CITY. WE WILL GROW, WE WILL ADD THINGS, WE WILL GET RID OF THINGS MAYBE. UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LIVING SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSTANTLY GO BACK TO. I PLAN TO ADD THINGS ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW THOSE ARE CARRIED OUT. I, I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW WE REALLY GET THINGS DONE HERE IN THE MUSIC COMMISSION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE HERE FOR. YOU'RE READY TO GET THINGS DONE. SO IF YOU, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF [00:20:01] YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OR ANYTHING YOU WANT CLARITY ON, OR SOMETHING YOU FEEL LIKE SHOULD GO IN HERE AND SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR AND MOVING FORWARD, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I JUST WANT THIS TO BE A TOOL FOR YOU TO USE TO CARRY US THROUGH THE YEAR, TO HAVE A CERTAIN STANDARD, TO HAVE COURTESY FOR OUR CITY STAFF AND FOR YOU ALL PERSON COMMISSIONER TO COMMISSIONER. SO THAT, I FEEL LIKE I SOUND LIKE A MOM RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S EVERYTHING. AND I JUST WANNA SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AMAZING. I HEAR ABOUT OTHER COMMISSIONS AND THE WORK THAT THEY GET DONE, BUT MAN, TO WORK WITH YOU ALL MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY SUGGESTIONS. THEY'RE ALL WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SHELBY. UM, AND, UH, I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT DOCUMENT TO HAVE AND REVIEW. I THINK, UH, WE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE THIS AGAIN A FEW MONTHS HERE AS WE HAVE, GET SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS. UH, UM, YOU KNOW, I DO WANNA THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US SUPER ORGANIZED. I MEAN, THIS IS, UH, I MEAN, JUST, JUST THE WAY YOU HAVE US, YOU KNOW, GET PREPARED TO GO THROUGH THIS MEETING, UH, WITH DOCUMENTS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S, AND, AND ALSO, UM, HOW WE SHIFTED OR ADJUSTED TO HAVING THE AGENDA FINALIZED AT A MUCH EARLIER TIME NOW COMPARED TO BEFORE, UH, PER THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, EVERYTHING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR HELP IN GETTING US ORGANIZED AND KEEPING US IN LINE, AND, UH, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I WANT TO ALSO QUICKLY, UM, IT WAS NOT ANNOUNCED, UH, FORMALLY HERE THE LAST TIME ROUND, SO I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING IN THE LAST MEETING. UM, BUT, UM, UH, DEFINITELY WANNA THANK, UH, UH, DIRECTOR RA FOR, UM, HER SERVICE, UM, TO THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. AND, UH, OF COURSE FOR HER AND US BEING A MUSIC COMMISSION, UM, OF COURSE FOR HER AND, UH, HER HAVING A TEAM HERE THAT WOULD WORK COLLABORATIVELY, THAT WORKS COLLABORATIVELY WITH US AND CONTINUES TO WORK, UM, COLLABORATIVELY WITH US. AND IT, IT, IT, IT COMES FROM LEADERSHIP AS WELL, AS WELL AS OF COURSE SPEAKS HIGHLY OF THE TEAM THAT SHE HAS PUT TOGETHER HERE FOR, UH, FOR MUSIC. UH, SO I REALLY, AND I'M SURE, UH, I'M SPEAKING FOR EVERYBODY AND, UM, I'LL, I'LL ASK YOU TO COMMENT AS WELL IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY, UH, WANNA THANK, UH, THE DIRECTOR FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAS DONE, UH, FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND, UH, UM, VERY MUCH, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, AGREE WITH, UM, HOW WE WORK WITH EACH OTHER, HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER, UH, WHETHER IT'S INTERACTIONS WITH STAFF AND COMMISSION BETWEEN COMMISSIONERS, BETWEEN US AND THE COMMUNITY. UM, I THINK WE CARRY THE, THE REAL RESPONSIBILITY OF JUST, UH, PROVIDING THE RIGHT INFORMATION. IT'S NOT NECESSARY THAT WE ALL WILL ALWAYS AGREE WITH EACH OTHER. UM, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE SPEAKING TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT WE ARE PRESENTING INFORMATION THAT IS FACTUALLY CORRECT BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS TUNED INTO THE DETAILS AT THE LEVEL AT WHICH WE ARE. SO I THINK THAT JUST PUTS US THAT EXTRA RESPONSIBILITY ON US THAT WE ARE CONVEYING, UM, THE, THE RIGHT INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, OPINIONS CAN DIFFER AND THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. UM, OKAY, I WILL, UM, I WILL YIELD TO THE COMMISSIONERS. UH, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, JUST WANTED TO SAY, I WANT TO THANK, UH, SHELBY FOR THIS WONDERFUL RESOURCE. WE APPRECIATE IT, SHELBY, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. OH, APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. Y'ALL ARE AWESOME. Y'ALL REALLY ARE AWESOME, AND I JUST WANNA HELP YOU. THAT'S WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS FOR. UM, A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN BE VERY OVERWHELMING, AND SO I JUST MADE THIS DOCUMENT TO CONDENSE AND BRING IT BACK TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT SO THAT WE CAN STAY PRODUCTIVE AND NOT FEEL OVERWHELMED. I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP, HELP YOUR TRAIN AS I'M SURE BUSY. JUST MOVE. JUST KEEP ON MOVING. SO, YEAH. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS? UH, EITHER HERE OR ONLINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHELBY. ALSO REMINDER, D THREE IS OPEN. UM, BE MINDFUL THAT YOU CAN PETITION YOUR OWN, INVITE YOUR PEERS, WHATEVER, BUT THAT SEAT IS OPEN. AND BEING MINDFUL OF NEWCOMERS, SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT HOW THEY CAN GET INVOLVED. IF THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY. UH, SHELBY, WHICH DISTRICT AGAIN? D THREE. DISTRICT THREE. YOU MENTIONED D THREE. I SAID D THREE, SORRY, D THREE. OKAY. DISTRICT THREE. YEAH, NO, WE GOT THAT. . THANKS Y'ALL. COOL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, OKAY, UH, JUST VERY QUICKLY, D THREE IS, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS, UH, VELASQUEZ, OR [00:25:02] I'M TRYING TO FILL THAT OUT. IS IT COUNCIL MEMBER VELASQUEZ ON, UH, D THREE? IT'S ON THAT SHEET, ON ROSTER. WE USUALLY EMAIL, SO IT MIGHT NOT HAVE A THAT, SO IF IT'S COUNCIL MEMBER WILL ASK. 'CAUSE I ACTUALLY SAW A NAME ONLINE ALREADY. YEAH. SO MAYBE THEY'VE NOT GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE TRAINING AND STUFF. SO IT HAS NOT FILTERED TO EDD AS YET. THANK Y'ALL. UM, I, I, I THOUGHT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY ONLINE, SO I GUESS, UH, YEAH, IT'S, I, I SAW, UM, CARLA RENDON'S NAME THERE, UM, FIRST TERM. SO I THINK ONCE THEY TAKE THE, UH, TRAINING, PROBABLY THEN THE INFORMATION COMES TO EDD. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT WAS, UH, THE REPLACEMENT FOR COMMISSIONER DAVILA. YEP. OKAY. YEAH, I SAW A NAME ALREADY. SO, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN FOLLOW UP. I WOULD REQUEST EDD TO FOLLOW UP AND SEE, UH, WHERE WE ARE WITH IT. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS SOME NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS COME IN, UM, WE'LL SEE HOW THEY PROCEED WITH, UH, THEIR APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMISSION. OKAY. ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? UH, WONDERFUL. UM, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS, [5. Presentation on 2024 Austin Live Music Fund Survey conducted by Austin Texas Musicians (ATXM) by Pat Buchta, Chief Executive Officer, ATXM.] WE HAVE PRESENTATION ON 2024 AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND SURVEY CONDUCTED BY AUSTIN, TEXAS, MUSICIANS BY PAT UCTA, CHIEF, UH, EXECUTIVE OFFICER, A DXM. HI, PAT. HAPPY NEW YEAR. HI GUYS. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. HAPPY NEW YEAR. AND, UM, YEAH, UH, JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, FOR ANYONE WHO'S NEW HERE, UM, WE, UH, TEXAS MUSICIANS AS AN ADVOCACY NON-PROFIT, WE SERVE, UH, ABOUT 6,000 CENTRAL TEXAS MUSICIANS ON CITY, STATE AND FEDERAL POLICY. AND PROVIDE SOME, UH, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND INCOME OPPORTUNITIES AND PRESERVATION EFFORTS AS WELL. UM, THE, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, WAS THE VERY FIRST PROJECT THAT WE WORKED ON WAY BACK IN 2019. UH, SO WE DO FEEL, UH, VERY, UM, WE, WE, THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE DO FEEL A LOT OF, UM, UH, MY, I'M SO SORRY GUYS. MY BRAIN'S NOT WORKING. I'M SO SICK RIGHT NOW. BUT, UH, WE, WE LOVE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. WE CARE ABOUT IT, AND WE WANT, UH, TO ENSURE, UH, ITS SUCCESS. AND SO I KNOW THIS IS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE SECOND YEAR, UH, OUT THE GATE, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS. AND, UM, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND, UH, HAS CERTAINLY A LOT OF ROOM FOR GROWTH, UH, AS WELL. SO, UH, WITH THAT FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW, UH, WE ARE GONNA PRESENT OUR, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND FEEDBACK, UH, SURVEY RESULTS. OUR SAMPLE SIZE WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN LAST YEAR, UH, BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS STILL A VERY REPRESENTATIVE, UH, SAMPLE SIZE OF OUR, UH, MUSIC COMMUNITY. UM, SO WITH THAT, BEFORE I START COUGHING, I'VE STILL GOT A HUNDRED DEGREE FEVER. UH, I'M GONNA HAND THIS OVER TO THEO, UH, LOVE OUR MUSICIANS ADVISORY PANEL MEMBER TO READ THROUGH THE RESULTS, UH, FOR YOU GUYS. UH, THEO. HI, EVERYONE. HAPPY NEW YEAR. UM, I WANNA START BY SAYING I'M A BIG, UH, PROPONENT OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. UH, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? UM, I RECEIVED THE GRANT IN 2023, AND THAT WAS A GAME CHANGER FOR MYSELF. SO I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND PARTICIPATE WITH THE COMMISSION ON HOW TO JUST GROW THIS PROGRAM AND, YOU KNOW, BEST GET THE FUNDS TO MORE AND MORE MUSICIANS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAD, LIKE HE SAID, JUST UNDER 40 PEOPLE FILL OUT OUR SURVEY. UM, WHEN ASKED, ARE YOU A CENTRAL TEXAS MUSICIAN? 92.1% SAID YES, 2.6% SAID, NO, I'M A PROMOTER. AND ANOTHER 2.6% SAID, NO, I'M A VENUE OPERATOR. IS PER, IS PERFORMANCE OF MUSIC, YOUR MAIN SOURCE OF MUSIC INCOME? 57.9% SAID YES. 42.1% SAID NO. DID YOU APPLY AS A SOLO ARTIST OR A MEMBER OF A BAND? 52.9% SAID SOLO. 47.1% SAID BANNED. DO YOU IDENTIFY AS DISABLED? 92.1% SAID NO. 5.3% SAID YES, 2.6% PREFER NOT TO SAY WHICH, WITH, WHICH GENDER DO YOU MOST CLOSELY IDENTIFY? 68.4%, MAN, [00:30:01] 21.1% WOMEN, 5.3% NON-BINARY AND 5.3% PREFER NOT TO SAY WITH, WITH, WITH WHICH RACE ETHNICITIES YOU MOST CLOSELY IDENTIFY? 71.1% WHITE, 13.2%, BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICAN 7.9. PREFER NOT TO SAY 5.3 LATINO. 2.6. MULTIRACIAL WITH WHICH, WITH WHICH SEXUAL ORIENTATION DO YOU MOST CLOSELY IDENTIFY? 73.7 SAID HETEROSEXUAL, 10.5% SAID NOT TO PREFER NOT TO SAY 7.9% SAID BISEXUAL. 7.9% SAID QUEER. WE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT ZIP CODES ALL OVER THE GREATER AUSTIN AREA. UH, WHAT IS YOUR ZIP CODE? 7 8 7 5 9 7 8 7 2 3. 7 8 7 0 4 7 8 6 4 0. THE LIST GOES ON. I'M NOT GONNA TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME THERE. DO YOU HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT? A HUNDRED PERCENT SAID YES. MAKES SENSE. DO YOU NEED ONE TO GET THE FUND? DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE HEALTHCARE INSURANCE? 87.9% SAID YES. 12.1% SAID NO. WAS THIS YOUR FIRST TIME APPLYING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND? 47.4% SAID YES. 36.8% SAID NO. AND THEN 13.2% SAID, I DID NOT APPLY. DID YOU RECEIVE A LIVE MUSIC FUND AWARD IN 2023? 73% SAID NO. 27% SAID YES. IF YOU RECEIVED A 23 20 23 LIVE MUSIC FUND AWARD, WOULD YOU CHANGE HOW YOU SPENT THE GRANT MONEY? EXPLAIN BELOW. I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY INTERESTING. AT FIRST, NOT AT ALL. IT WAS THE BIGGEST HELP TO BUY THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE COULDN'T AFFORD. UH, COMMUNITY FUNDRAISER, MIXED MEDIUM ART. I WOULD'VE USED THE FUNDS TO GO BACK IN THE STUDIO TO MAKE A RECORD. UM, SOME TALKED ABOUT THE, THE EVENT THEY PRODUCE, INDIE ORCHESTRA PARTNERSHIP WITH KETX AND AUSTIN PBS. UM, NO, I THINK I SPENT THE MONEY WELL, BUT GOING FORWARD, I WOULD, I WOULD'VE, I WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT PROJECT AND WOULD SPEND DIFFERENTLY. UM, ANOTHER PERSON SAID NONE. I WORKED VERY HARD TO DO IT RIGHT, IF ANY, IF I HAD ANY REGRETS, IT MIGHT BE THAT I DIDN'T COMPENSATE MYSELF AS MUCH AS I DESERVE BASED ON THE TIME AND WORK I PUT IN, BUT I DON'T REGRET PAYING MY MUSICIANS ADEQUATELY. SO GENERALLY, ACROSS THE BOARD IN THESE RESPONSES, PEOPLE ARE VERY CONFIDENT IN HOW THEY'RE SPENDING THIS MONEY THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING. DID YOU RECEIVE A LIVE MUSIC FUND AWARD IN 2024? 83.8% SAID NO. 16.2% SAID YES. DID YOU COMPLETE THE 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION? 78% POINT 78.4% SAID, I COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION. 10.8 SAID 10.8% SAID I DID NOT ATTEMPT TO APPLY. AND THEN 10.8% I STARTED, BUT DID NOT COMPLETE THE APPLICATION. THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S WHAT 2020 1% PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY DID NOT ATTEMPT OR STARTED, BUT DID NOT COMPLETE. THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION WAS MADE TO BE EFFICIENT FOR MUSICIANS. YOU GOT 11%. I MEAN, STARTING AT STRONGLY DISAGREE AT ONE, STRONGLY AGREE AT SIX. UM, ONE 11.8%, TWO 14.7%, THREE 11.84. SCORING THE HIGHEST AT 35.3%. 11.8% ON FIVE AND 14.7% ON SIX. SO THE AVERAGE THERE IS 3.6 RATING. THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION, PRIORITIZING PERFORMING MUSICIANS. UH, THERE'S 29.4% SAID STRONGLY DISAGREE, WHICH I FIND VERY INTERESTING. 5.9%, UH, FOR TWO 20.6% FOR THREE 20.6% FOR FOUR, 8.8% FOR THREE AND 14.7% FOR FIVE. THAT STRONGLY AGREE. SO THAT'S A 3.2 AVERAGE RATING. A LITTLE OVER HALF. I HAD ENOUGH TIME TO COMPLETE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION. 0% AT ONE 2.9% AT TWO, 2.9% AT THREE 14.7% AT 4 32 0.4% AT FIVE AND 47.1%, JUST UNDER HALF. STRONGLY AGREED THAT THEY DID HAVE ENOUGH TIME. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO COMPLETE YOUR LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION? ONE TO FIVE HOURS AT 51.5%. [00:35:03] SIX TO 10 HOURS AT 30.3%, 10 TO 15 HOURS AT 9.1% AND 16 OR MORE AT 9.1% I FELT CONFIDENT IN, IN APPLYING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. WE HAVE 5.9% AT ONE. STRONGLY DISAGREE. 5.9%, 2 23 0.5% AT THREE, 5.9% AT FOUR 17.6% AT FIVE AND 41.2% AT SIX. STRONGLY AGREE. SO THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF 4.5% AVERAGE RATING. SO THAT LOOKS GOOD. YOU DID RECEIVE HELP ON YOUR APPLICATION FROM THE FOLLOWING. SO LET'S ALL THAT APPLY. 54.5% SAID I DID NOT RECEIVE ADDITIONAL HELP. 15.2% SAID THE CITY OF AUSTIN MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION HELPED 12.1% SAID LONG CENTER CREATE AUSTIN TEAM HELPED. AND THEN 3% INDEPENDENT GRANT ASSISTANCE AND THEN MUSIC OF HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT. 3% AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER AT 21.2%. AND I BELIEVE DOWN HERE FOR OTHER, SOME OF THOSE OTHER ARE A FRIEND WHO RECEIVED THE AWARD IN 2023. UH, PRO ART GRANTS WRITERS, LAURA NIXON, THEO LOVE AARON INDIVIDUALS, I WOULD ASSUME THAT HAD GOTTEN THE GRANT BEFORE. I KNOW FOR MYSELF THAT WAS THE CASE. I KNEW WHERE TO SEEK ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE WITH MY LIVE MUSIC FUND GRANT APPLICATION. 32.4% STRONGLY DISAGREED. SO WE COULD DO BETTER THERE. 5.9% AT 2 26 0.5% AT THREE 11.8% AT FOUR 14.7% AT FIVE, AND 8.8% AT SIX. SO IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING LIKE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FOR THAT EXISTENCE. ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE WAS HELPFUL IN MY LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION PROCESS. 27.3% SAID THEY STRONGLY DISAGREE. 15.2% AT 2 27 0.3% AT THREE 6.1% AT FOUR 15.2% AT FIVE AND 9.1% AT SIX. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO STRONGLY DISAGREE HERE. THE ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE WASN'T HELPFUL. SO IT MAKES ME WONDER ABOUT THE HELP I GAVE . UH, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES WERE RELEVANT TO MY WORK AS A PERFORMING MUSICIAN. THE AVERAGE RATING IS 2.7 ON THIS ONE. UM, 8.8 AT ONE. STRONGLY DISAGREE. 4.7 AT 14.7 AT 2 26 0.5 AT THREE 17.6% AT FOUR 14.7% AT FIVE AND 17.6%. AT STRONGLY AGREE. THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES ADDRESS MY NEEDS AS A WORKING MUSICIAN, AVERAGING AT 3.7% AT 3.7. SO WE HAVE 15.2% AT STRONGLY DISAGREE. 9.1% OUTTA 2 21 0.2% AT 3 24 0.2% AT FOUR, 9.1% AT FIVE AND 21.2% AT SIX. THE LIVE MUSIC FUND SHOULD HAVE DIFFERENT AWARD TIERS FOR EMERGING ARTISTS AND ESTABLISHED ARTIST. UH, ONE STRONGLY DISAGREE IS 6.1%, 2 6 4 0.1% AT THREE. WE HAVE 15.2% AT 18.2% AT FOUR, 6.1% AT FIVE. AND THEN I VERY STRONGLY AGREE AT 48.5%. SO DIFFERENT TIERS FOR IF YOU GOT IT AND YOU DID NOT, IS STRONGLY AGREED UPON. I WAS ABLE TO FULLY UNDERSTAND MY FINAL LIVE MUSIC FUND GRANT DECISION AND SCORE 54.5%. STRONGLY DISAGREE. UM, 9.1% AT TWO 9.1% AT THREE 9.1% AT FOUR 9.1%, FIVE AND 9.1% AT SIX. SO YES, IT SEEMS LIKE THE SCORING SYSTEM IS CONFUSING. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US OVERALL, I APPROVE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION PROCESS. 17.6% AT ONE. STRONGLY DISAGREE. 29.4% AT TWO 14.7% AT THREE 11.8% AT FOUR, 5.9% AT FIVE AND 20.6% AT SIX. OVERALL, I APPROVE OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES, 23.5% AT STRONGLY DISAGREE. 20.6 AT TWO 20.6% AT THREE 11.8% AT FOUR, 8.8% AT FIVE, AND 14.7% AT SIX. I AM LIKELY TO APPLY FOR [00:40:01] THE NEXT ROUND OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDELINES AND APPLICATION PROCESS. YOU HAVE STRONGLY DISAGREE AT 6.1%, UH, TWO AT 9.1%, 12.1% AT THREE 12.1% AT FOUR 18.2% AT FIVE AND 42.4% AT STRONGLY AGREE. WHY DID YOU ULTIMATELY CHOOSE NOT TO COMPLETE AND SUBMIT YOUR 2024 LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION? I'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF RESPONSES I DID NOT COMPLETE. I DID COMPLETE AND SUBMIT. I SEEMED INELIGIBLE, NOT APPLICABLE. I WAS BETWEEN BANDS. I SUBMITTED, RAN OUT OF TIME. UH, I COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED. I'M VERY CONFUSED ABOUT WHICH FUND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HERE. UM, I DID COMPLETE. I DID COMPLETE, YES. BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS NOT FOR MUSICIANS AT ALL. INTERESTING. SO VARYING INFORMATION THERE. DID YOU EXPERIENCE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH THE APPLICATION PLATFORM? IF SO, PLEASE DESCRIBE BELOW. THERE WERE A LOT OF QUALIFICATIONS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ME AS A MUSICIAN WHEN APPLYING FOR THE GRANT. WAS VERY HARD TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. YES, I HAD SOME ERRORS FILLING OUT THE FIELDS. THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT EMPTY OR NON APPLICABLE APPLIC APPLIC APPLICABLE ANSWERS THERE. YOU'RE, UM, I WASN'T USED TO THE PLATFORM. HAD TO LEARN A NEW ONE, BUT EASY TO LEARN. UM, NO SITE WAS LESS BUGGY THAN LESS BUGGY THIS YEAR. THANK YOU. UM, AND I CAN ATTEST TO THAT. THE SITE WAS MUCH MORE, UM, USER-FRIENDLY JUST ON FOR SOMEONE WHO'S DONE IT TWICE. UH, MOVING ON, DO YOU FEEL THAT THE 15,000 AND 13,000 GRAND AMOUNTS WERE APPROPRIATE? IT PLEASE EXPLAIN BELOW. I FELT THAT THEY WERE APPROPRIATE, YES. NO, THAT'S MORE THAN MOST MUSICIANS IN THE CITY EARN. IF ANYONE APPLIED GOT EVEN A THOUSAND OR 2000 GRANT, THAT WOULD'VE DONE FAR MORE FOR MUSIC. DEFINITELY. I'M A VENUE OPERATOR. YES. YES. TWO LARGE. UH, YES, BUT THERE SHOULD BE DIFFERENT TIERS FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ARTISTS. 30,000 IS TOO MUCH, I THINK. YES. BUT 10 K AND 5K GRANTS IN ADDITION MIGHT TAKE, IT MIGHT MAKE IT FEEL LESS THAN ALL OR NOTHING PROCESS TO PROCESS. SO MANY NON RECIPIENTS HAVE BEEN VOICING. SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT ONE. AND THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY IS WHY I WANTED TO BE ON HERE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IS BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THE GRANTS AMOUNTS WERE TOO BIG. I THINK 5,000 AND 10,000 WERE PLENTY. 10,000, WHICH I RECEIVED IN 23 WAS A GAME CHANGER. AND I'M STILL, IT'S STILL GIVING ME THE MOMENTUM AND THAT WE HAVE NOW AND FURTHER ACCESSIBILITY FOR IT TO GET TO MORE MUSICIANS. UH, WHEN I THINK OF, YOU KNOW, $30,000 AND $15,000 BROKEN DOWN INTO $5,000 AND $10,000 GRANTS, IT'S JUST SO MANY MORE MUSICIANS THAT ARE BEING HIT. UM, AND IT DOES SO MUCH. I DON'T, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, FOR NEW ARTISTS WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO DO WITH $30,000? LIKE, THAT'S A LOT. UM, SO JUST, YOU KNOW, MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION, I FEEL LIKE THE GREAT AMOUNTS WERE GREAT STANDING AT FIVE AND $10,000 MOVING FORWARD. DO YOU FEEL THAT HAVING A BIG ACCOUNT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HAVE AFFECTED YOUR SCORE EXPLAINED BELOW? I THINK HAVING A BANK ACCOUNT SHOULDN'T AFFECT YOUR SCORE. MOST PEOPLE HAVE BIG ACCOUNTS, SO IT'S SILLY TO BE BASED OFF THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT SHOULD, IT SHOULD NOT IMPACT YOUR SCORING. A HUNDRED PERCENT. SHOULD NOT MUSICIANS NEED THE ASSISTANCE AND HOW THEY SPEND IT SHOULDN'T MATTER AT ALL. THAT'S DISCRIM DISCRIM DISCRIMINATORY TOWARDS THE POOR. YES. I THINK IN SHOULD INCOME SHOULD MATTER THERE. THIS ISN'T A GOOD QUESTION. . UM, HOW ELSE WOULD WOMEN GET PAID? NO, THAT WAS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY AND HINDERS MINORITY ARTISTS DOING THE HARD WORK. SO THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME FEEDBACK ON IT BEING DISCRIMINATORY TOWARDS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPOVERISHED IN SOME WAY. WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT YOUR SCORE EXPLAINED BELOW? NO, I HAD NO UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. NOR WAS IT HIGHLIGHTED THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS. NO, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT. SEEMED LIKE IT. HEALTH INSURANCE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE GET THROUGH PROFESSION OR RETIRE, WHICH CAN SPEND FOLLOWING, WHICH WE CAN SPEND FOLLOWING OUR MUSICAL DREAMS. UM, DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY THIS DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS QUESTION. HAD NO IDEA. AND THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY INSANE. NO, I'M NOT ONLY NOW LEARNING THAT THIS IS NEGATIVE THING FOR APPLICANTS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ONE EITHER. I'LL MOVE ON. IN YOUR OPINION, HOW COULD THE LAW MUSIC FUND APPLICATION APPLICATION HAVE SERVED YOU BETTER? FIRST RESPONSE. IT COULD HAVE MADE NEW MUSIC BECOME, BECAUSE STUDIO RECORDINGS ARE EXPENSIVE. COULD HAVE WENT ON TOUR, PAID FOR REHEARSALS, COULD HAVE RESTOCKED MY MERCH, TOOK CARE OF MY BAND NEEDS, UM, [00:45:03] MAKE THE GRANT LESS. THIS PERSON SAYS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. VENUES ARE SUFFERING AND DENIED FUNDS THAT WERE GIVEN TO MUSICIANS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMING FOR YEARS. I WOULD ARGUE AGAINST THAT. MORE TIME TO ANALYZE AND FINISH THE APPLICATION. FEWER GRANT AMOUNTS AND NON-DISCRIMINATION SCORING RUBRIC. I THINK YOU SHOULD FOCUS SPECIFIC. YOU, I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A SPECIFIC SHOW OR PRODUCTION AND, AND HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF VARYING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS MORE GRANT AWARD TIERS WOULD BE GREAT. THOSE OF US WHO DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO DEI TICK BOXES, BUT WHO HAVE LONG TRACK RECORD OF PROMOTING UNDERSERVED UNREPRESENTED ARTISTS AUDIENCE MIGHT BE GIVEN MORE CONSIDERATION BEFORE BEING REJECTED OUTRIGHT. THAT'S A FAIR, FAIR POINT THERE. UM, I'LL MOVE ON. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO READ THIS. IN YOUR OPINION, HOW COULD THE LIVE MUSIC FUND GUIDELINES, HAVE I JUST DO THAT ONE? YEAH. BETTER? YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE A REPEAT. WHAT WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE, WHAT WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPLY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND? AGAIN, MAKE IT MORE FAIR AND TRANSPARENT FOR THE MUSIC MUSICIANS WHO APPLY, I'M GOING TO AGAIN AND POWER THROUGH. IF THEY PROMISE MORE REALISTIC GRANT AMOUNTS AND PROMISE TO AWARD A HIGHER MAJORITY OF APPLICANTS EQUIPMENT CAN BE MEAN. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUCCESS AND FAILURE AND MONEY CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. FUNDING FOR VENUES, UH, BETTER DECISION MAKING. I WOULD APPLY AGAIN TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATION BEFORE APPLYING SO THAT I COULD GET ALL MY LINKS, ET CETERA, TOGETHER AHEAD OF TIME. UH, ITEMS HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE SMALL AND LARGE AWARDS, KEEP IT, KEEP DEI INITIATIVES IN PLACE. LOVE THEM WITHOUT SHUTTING OUT ARTISTS WHO HAVE LONG STANCE, LONG STRONG TRACK, UH, RECORDS IN PARTNERING WITH DIVERSE ARTISTS AND SUPPORTING UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. OKAY, I'LL MOVE ON. AND THEN ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? UH, THERE'S A REALLY, A LOT OF US STRUGGLING TO STAY AFLOAT BY WORKING A FULL-TIME JOB AND TRYING TO SUSTAIN A MUSIC CAREER HERE IN THE CITY. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING BY CHECKING IN ON THESE NOTIONS, THEN MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT. THANK YOU. UH, THIS THING WAS MESSED UP IN EVERY WAY. FEELS LIKE THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE WERE COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE REALITY OF AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY. HOW DID NONE OF THE TOP MUSICIANS IN TOWN, OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 PLUS YEARS GET THE GRANT VENUE NEED VENUES NEED HELP. HOW DOES THIS APPLICATION OR ORGANIZATION INFLUENCE OR SHAPE DECISION MAKING WITH THE PEOPLE WHO MANAGE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND APPLICATION PROCESS? THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT GOT THE GRANTS THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN AUSTIN. THERE ARE PEOPLE CALLING THEMSELVES INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, ONE OF THEM BEING THE MUSIC CHAIR OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION THAT RECEIVED FUNDING AND THEY'RE BARELY DOING ANYTHING TO INDEPENDENTLY PROMOTE OTHER MUSICIANS. THE ENTIRE PROCESS NEEDS TO CHANGE, NOT MY WORDS. UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT IN NOT GETTING THE GRANT, SO THERE'S A LOT OF OUTRAGE RE REGARDING, UH, UH, THE DEI GRANT AMOUNTS. UM, I, UH, SO YEAH, THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA IN THERE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD ALL KIND OF TAKE IN AND TAP IN. UH, PAT DID YOU WANNA YEAH. THANK YOU, THEO. UH, I JUST WANT TO ADD ONCE AGAIN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THIS, UH, FROM A VERY IMPARTIAL BASIS. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS TO, UH, EASY TO DIGEST ALL THIS INFORMATION. UM, CERTAINLY. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU GUYS TAKE TIME TO, UH, LOOK THROUGH THIS AND PROCESS, UH, THE INFORMATION WE'VE GIVEN, WE'RE HERE TO OBVIOUSLY ANSWER QUESTIONS. UH, NEXT MONTH WE WILL COME BACK TO DELIVER OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WHICH REALLY AREN'T THAT DIFFERENT AT ALL THAN THEY WERE LAST YEAR. UM, BUT, UH, IN THE MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT. UM, AND I HOPE IT'S HELPFUL. UH, I HOPE IT'S WELCOME. AND, UH, WE'RE AS ALWAYS JUST HERE TO SERVE. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE, I'M SURE THEO AND I ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU, PAT. THANK YOU, UH, THEO FOR, UH, PRESENTING, UH, THE DATA, UH, THAT YOU ALL HAVE COLLECTED. UH, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, BRING THIS INFORMATION TO US. UM, I WOULD, UM, OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I HAD A QUESTION. PLEASE. GO AHEAD. OH, THANK YOU. UM, SO I, I, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH AND THANK YOU AGAIN, UH, FOR, UH, SHARING THAT WITH US. UM, SO, UH, WHAT I SAW, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS [00:50:01] ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I HAVE ONE AT THIS MOMENT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE APPLICANTS FILLED OUT THE APPLICATIONS ON THEIR OWN, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I SAW 50 SOMETHING PERCENT. DID THEY FILLED OUT THE APPLIC, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. MM-HMM . AND IS THERE, I WONDER HOW MANY OF THOSE APPLICANTS RECEIVED THE AWARD, THE ONES THAT FILLED IT OUT ON THEIR OWN? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF I, UH, AS SOMEONE WHO ALSO, UH, RECEIVED, UH, FUNDS IN, UH, 2023, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, HX, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT OFFICE, AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF, OF SUPPORTING AND HELPING US, YOU KNOW, WHILE WALKING US THROUGH THAT MM-HMM . SO, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT WAS A BIG NUMBER, I BELIEVE OF, OF PEOPLE WHO FILLED OUT THE APPLICATIONS ON THEIR OWN. AND I'M WONDERED HOW WE COULD FIND OUT IF THOSE THAT DID IT ON THEIR OWN, IF THEY ACTUALLY RECEIVED AN AWARD. AND BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING FOLKS DID IT ON THEIR OWN, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY GOT IT OR THEY DON'T. AND, AND WE, WE JUST DON'T KNOW. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IT'S HOW, HOW, WHAT THE CORRELATION IS THERE. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND CERTAINLY THAT'S ONE THAT WE CAN, UH, DRILL DOWN INTO WITH OUR GROUP MM-HMM . UM, AND DELIVER THAT, THAT ANSWER TO YOU NEXT MONTH. I THINK, UM, BY AND LARGE WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, FROM THE SUCCESSFUL APPLICANTS IS THAT THEY DID, YOU KNOW, SEEK HELP. UH, A LOT OF THEM THAT WE'VE SEEN WENT TO THE MUSEUM OF, UH, HUMAN ACHIEVEMENT OR THEY, YOU KNOW, WORKED, YOU KNOW, REALLY CLOSELY WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SERVICES THAT OFFERED, UH, ASSISTANCE. YEAH. I MEAN, THE TECH MUSIC OFFICE, YOU KNOW, DOES OFFER LOTS OF HELP AS WELL. SO, YEAH. AND, AND I KNOW I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT, BUT I WOULD SURPRISE HELP IF THE NUMBER WAS THEY DID IT ON THEIR OWN. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL. JUST A COMMENT WONDERING. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION WE CAN GET ANSWERED. CERTAINLY. AND I, UM, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GONNA BE THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE, UM, MARKETING, UH, AND OUTREACH AROUND THE FACT THAT THESE SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE IS GONNA BE REALLY HELPFUL, UH, IN THE THIRD ROUND. THANK YOU, PAT. THANK YOU FOR YEAH, WARREN COMMISSIONER, GO. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AYE, UH, YEAH. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. ACTUALLY, THIS, THIS MAY BE A STAFF QUESTION, BUT RELATED TO THE SURVEY, UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, ON THE SURVEY THAT SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, DID YOU PERCEIVE, OR DID YOU FEEL THAT HAVING, DID IT SEEM LIKE HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE WOULD HURT YOUR APPLICATION? RIGHT? THAT WAS THE QUESTION. UM, AND IT, AND WAS, WERE THERE ACTUALLY POINTS DEDUCTED FOR RE FOR HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE? OR DID YOU, IF YOU HAD HEALTH INSURANCE, DID THAT ACTUALLY HURT THE APPLICATION OR WAS THE QUESTION JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THAT WAS PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION FILLING OUT THE APPLICATION? UH, WOULD STAFF LIKE TO ANSWER? MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS AROUND, UH, DETERMINING, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUITY ECONOMIC PARITY. SO, UM, ERICA IS GOING UP TO ANSWER, HELLO ERICA SHAMLEY, UH, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, UH, DIVISION, UM, MANAGER. SO THAT'S PART OF OUR ACCESS TO SERVICES SECTION OF SCORING, WHICH IS TO HELP US DIVERSIFY OUR SCORES. UH, SINCE WE DO WANT TO, UH, PRIORITIZE FOLKS THAT, UM, HAVE A HARDER TIME IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH COULD BE NOT HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU GOT POINTS, AND IF YOU HAD HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU DIDN'T GET POINTS. AND THAT WAS PART OF A RUBRIC AROUND ACCESS TO SERVICES THAT SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD GOTTEN A PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN LAW, UH, DEPARTMENT OF, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS YEAR ABOUT CERTAIN QUESTIONS TO, UH, HELP US, UM, PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW, RACIAL EQUITY. UH, THIS WAS A DIFFERENT WAY TO GET THERE THROUGH TALKING ABOUT ACCESS TO SERVICES. SO, UH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T REALLY SCORE FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ON RACE, WHICH WAS THE GUIDANCE FROM LAW. AND SO WE LOOKED AT THESE ACCESS TO SERVICES QUESTIONS THAT HAD BEEN USED QUITE A LOT DURING OUR CO RELIEF AND RECOVERY PROGRAMS, UH, QUITE SUCCESSFULLY. IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY TO GET THERE. AND SO, YEAH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU'VE GOT POINTS WITHIN THE ACCESS TO SERVICES SECTION, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU COULDN'T GET POINTS IN OTHER SECTIONS AROUND YOUR WORK. COOL. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, SORRY, SORRY. UM, YEAH, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THAT. AND I THINK JUST BASED ON PEOPLE'S RESPONSE TO THAT SURVEY QUESTION, IT SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE LIKE, NO, THAT'S CRAZY. THAT SEEMS RIDICULOUS. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE JUST REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ERICA JUST EXPLAINED TO US. [00:55:01] AND ALSO THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT OF, OF THE WAY THIS POINT SYSTEM WORKS BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST AS ANOTHER CASE IN POINT, I RECEIVED THE GRANT AND I DO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE THROUGH HAM, UM, OR THANKS TO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY POSSIBLE TO STILL, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT QUESTION WOULD MAKE OR BREAK YOUR APPLICATION. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE TO YOU GUYS POINT ABOUT WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION LIKELY WILL BE IS LIKE MAYBE WE, IF WE HAVE MORE PSAS THAT ARE, THAT JUST REALLY DISTILL, HERE'S WHAT'S BEING ASKED AND HERE'S WHY, AND HERE'S HOW IT ALL, HERE'S HOW THIS ALL COMES TOGETHER TO FORM THIS COMPLEX TAPESTRY OF EACH PERSON'S APPLICATION AND EACH PERSON, YOU KNOW, THE STORY THAT THEY'RE TELLING BY ANSWERING ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF, UM, THE, THE, THE NEED AND TRYING TO GET AROUND THESE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THE MONEY WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO DESPITE OUR RIDICULOUS LEGAL SITUATION IN TEXAS, UM, AROUND THESE ISSUES. SO I THINK, UH, IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO, UM, HOW, AND ALSO LIKE, UM, COMMISSIONER CHARLA SAID EARLIER IS JUST MAKING SURE WE REALLY ARE GETTING FACTUAL INFORMATION OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE REALLY, TRULY UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS, UM, AND HOW THEY AFFECT THEM. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I GOT. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GOLD. UH, UH, PAT, PLEASE GO AHEAD. AND THEN I WOULD, UH, YEAH, IF I MAY, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, UH, IF I MAY, THAT, UH, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WAS THE IMPETUS ALSO BEHIND THE, UM, UH, BANK ACCOUNT QUESTION, UH, IF I'M CORRECT. AND, UM, I GUESS WITHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT TO, NOT TO, UH, COMPLETE AN, ANY FEAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS, BUT, UM, THERE IS A HOUSE BILL 1 67 THAT'S COMING UP, UM, UH, IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT IS TARGETING, UH, A LOT OF THESE, UM, SORT OF DEI EFFORTS, WHICH IS INSANE TO ME. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT PAXTON VERY SPECIFICALLY IS LOOKING AT, UM, , I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T EVEN SAY THIS ON RECORD, BUT HE'S, HE'S LOOKING AT THESE FUNDS, HE'S LOOKING AT AUSTIN. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANY, UH, OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO BUTTON THINGS UP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T ENDANGER, UH, THESE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE ALL WORKED SO HARD, UH, TO GET ON THE TABLE FOR MUSICIANS, UH, IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, THAT MERITS ATTENTION, UH, FOR THIS NEXT ROUND. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS AWARE OF THIS HOUSE BILL YEAH. UH, COMING UP, BUT IT'S SOMETHING BE AWARE OF. YEAH, DEFINITELY. UM, THANKS, PAT. UM, YEAH, WE, WE ARE AWARE, UH, UH, OF, UH, UH, AT LEAST I'M SURE SOME OF US HERE ARE WELL AWARE OF, UH, UH, THAT AND AS WELL AS, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE THINGS COMING DOWN FROM STATE AND, AND FEDERAL AND, UH, I WOULD, UM, DEPEND ON THE CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, AND COUNCIL AND AS WELL AS IN OUR CONTEXT, EDD TO STEER US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS THEY GET, UH, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL OFFICES, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO I THINK THAT IS, IT'S, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS, IS, UH, CITY, UH, THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT STAYS ON TOP OF WHAT'S COMING DOWN IN THE PIPELINE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MODERATES ACCORDINGLY. UM, AND SO JUST QUICKLY ON THE HEALTH INSURANCE THING, AND, AND NOT TO GET INTO THE MINUTIA OF THINGS, BUT, UH, SOMETHING DEFINITELY THAT CAME UP, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IT IS, THIS IS USE CASING THINGS OUT, RIGHT? AS WHEN YOU PUT A CRITERIA, UH, HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT? AND, AND, UH, THE, THE INTENT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY, UM, TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS EQUITY ALSO THROUGH AN ECONOMIC PARITY, ECONOMIC LENS, REALLY. UH, AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM HIM, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS, UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ENDED UP HEARING THAT THAT MIGHT DISCOURAGE FOLKS FROM GETTING INSURANCE IF IT ACTUALLY DISADVANTAGES, UH, ARTISTS HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING, I MEAN, IT IS SOMETIMES SOME OF THOSE, UM, THOSE KIND OF USE CASES, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN THINK THROUGH AS MUCH AS, UH, YOU CAN, UH, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT JUST COME UP AFTER YOU SEE THE OUTCOMES, AND THEN YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO MAKE IT BETTER FROM THERE. UH, BUT THE INTENT BEHIND THAT IS TO, UH, USE ECONOMICS, UH, I GUESS PARITY AS, AS, AS, AS A CRITERIA FOR EQUITY. AND, AND THAT IS ALSO FOR, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS, IS WHAT, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES THAT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF HOW THEY DO EQUITY SO THAT WE WILL [01:00:01] LOOK FOR, UH, GUIDANCE, UH, FROM THEM. AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A COMMUNITY, UM, AS THE MUSIC INDUSTRY HERE IN AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE WANT TO DO THIS? WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HEAR, UM, LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, ARE ALSO PROVIDING, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK TO EDD AND BACK TO COUNCIL, UH, DO WE, DO WE WANT TO, UH, USE THIS LAYER? UH, SO FAR IN THE PAST CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS, UH, THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY HAS ALSO LEANED VERY HEAVILY ON WANTING TO HAVE EQUITY IN THE MIX. AND THAT'S WHAT IS, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SEEING MANIFESTED IN THE APPLICATIONS. SO, SO, SO WE, WE ALSO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS THE PULSE RIGHT NOW? HOW, HOW DO WE WANT TO, WHAT, WHAT DO WE THINK IS THE BEST WAY, UH, TO, TO DO THIS MOVING FORWARD, UH, TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS? I MEAN, DEFINITELY, UH, I'M A SUPPORTER OF EQUITY. UM, HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT IT? WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO IMPLEMENT IT? THAT'S, THAT'S THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD, UH, COME FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE COMMISSION HERE, UH, AS WELL THAT EDD CAN THEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. UM, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER AL, YOU CAN USE THIS. OKAY, THANKS. UH, YEAH, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT'S A, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU DID THE SURVEY TO ME. I SAW A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING THINGS. UH, FOR ONE THING THAT THE LARGEST GROUP WHO WAS RESPONDING IN THE SURVEY ARE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED FOR THE 2024 GRANT BUT DID NOT GET IT. AND WHAT, UH, WHAT RESPONSES WE SEE FROM THAT GROUP, WHICH MAYBE WE COULD, UH, WE COULD FIND OUT, WE COULD FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE BY FILTERING IT BETWEEN, AS NELSON SAID, THOSE WHO GOT IT AND THOSE WHO DIDN'T, AND DOING THOSE TYPES OF COMPARISONS. BUT EVEN WITH SO MANY OF THEM NOT GETTING IT, MOST OF THEM WERE NOT DISCOURAGED AND SAID THAT THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO APPLY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TERRIBLE THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND THEY SAID IT WAS BETTER THAN LAST YEAR. SO WHAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED TELLS US THAT EVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE REASON TO BE UNHAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME, AT LEAST THE PROCESS IS OKAY AND MM-HMM . NOW, I ALSO WANNA SALUTE YOU GUYS, BECAUSE IF I SAW THE, WAS IT 100% OF PEOPLE HAD A BANK ACCOUNT? WAS THAT RIGHT AND CORRECT, AND THE, AND THE LARGE MAJORITY DID HAVE HEALTHCARE AND MM-HMM . WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR AUSTIN MUSICIANS BY MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE MAKING SENSIBLE ECONOMIC DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THEIR LIVES. YOU KNOW, KUDOS TO YOU FOR AT LEAST MAKING SURE THAT YOUR MEMBERS ARE DOING THE GOOD THINGS. AND I THINK YOU'RE MAKING A VERY GOOD POINT THAT DOING THOSE THINGS RIGHT SHOULD NOT BE, UH, HINDRANCE IN GETTING, UH, IN, IN THE, IN THE SCORING. UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR DOING A GOOD JOB OF TAKING CARE OF YOUR MEMBERS. WELL, THANK YOU, WARREN. AND I, I THINK YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, THAT YOU GUYS DO WANT TO DRILL DOWN INTO, UM, LET ME KNOW, UH, THIS, THIS SURVEY CAN BE ONGOING AND WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, CONTINUE TO PULL ON OUR MEMBERS WITH SOME OF THESE MORE DETAILED, UH, QUESTIONS, UH, OVER THE NEXT MONTH, SO THAT WHEN WE DO COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE, UH, ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU. THANK YOU. UH, UH, COMMISSIONER PRICE, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL JUST QUICK QUESTION. UM, PAT, WHERE DOES THE SURVEY LIVE? I KNOW NORMALLY YOU'LL HAVE LIKE AN ANECDOTE SPREAD OUT IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PRESENT IN PERSON, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE VIA EMAIL? OH, YEAH. YEAH. I THINK YOU GUYS PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE THE LINK. YEAH, I'M GONNA JUST, RIGHT HERE. SORRY. ALL THIS, ALL THESE DOCUMENTS, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING IS ALWAYS IN YOUR INVITATION. SO PAT HAS DONE THE WORK OF MAKING IT A PDF. YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE SHORT ANSWER. IT'S, IT'S REALLY IN DEPTH. I DIDN'T PRINT IT OUT 'CAUSE IT'S 60 PAGES OF GOOD WORK, SO YOU CAN FIND IT IN YOUR INVITATION AND I CAN JUST SHOOT OUT AN EMAIL WITH THE INFORMATION YOU SHARED TODAY. THANKS, PAT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UH, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THAT SURVEY THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THERE. I'M JUST CURIOUS FROM EVERYONE WHO APPLIED FOR THE LIVE MUSIC GRANT, ARE THEY ALL MEMBERS OF A TXM OR WHAT? UH, WELL THAT'S HARD TO SAY. REALLY. THIS WAS, I MEAN, WE, WE'D HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT WE CALL A MEMBER. YOU KNOW, NIKIA STARTED THIS FACEBOOK GROUP BACK IN 2008 AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 6,000 [01:05:01] MEMBERS OF THE GROUP, BUT AS FAR AS OFFICIAL CAPACITY MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T PAY, WE DON'T TAKE DUES, WE DON'T, UM, YOU KNOW, CHARGE ANY SORT OF MONTHLY DUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, UH, WE COULD SAY THEY'RE MEMBERS OF OUR FACEBOOK GROUP AND OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S PROBABLY AS FAR AS IT GOES. OH, OKAY. SO, SO TO BE A PART OF A TXM, IT'S, IT IS A FACEBOOK GROUP. IT'S A FACEBOOK GROUP. UM, MORE FORMALLY WE DO HAVE OUR A TXM PRO, UH, LEVEL, THAT'S A FREE, UH, LEVEL WHERE YOU HAVE TO HIT FOUR OUTTA SIX REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO BE A PRO MEMBER. AND THAT OPENS UP OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LIKE, UH, BOOKING OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, SO WHEN THE, WHEN FOLKS ARE APPLYING FOR THE GRANT, YOU, YOU LET YOUR MEMBERS KNOW THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP THEM COMPLETE THE GRANT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO IT'S, SO THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING FOR THE GRANT TO TRULY KNOW YOUR MEMBERS REALLY NEED TO KNOW THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE LONG CENTER OR THROUGH THE STAFF OR WHATEVER, IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE GRANT. THANK YOU. YES, WE DO SHARE, UH, AS MANY OF THOSE SERVICES THAT WE ARE AWARE OF. OKAY. SO REALLY THE SURVEY, APPROPRIATE, THE SURVEY AND THE FINDINGS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR ALL OF US TO GROW FROM, BECAUSE YOU COULD HELP CLARIFY ANY MISCONCEPTIONS AS WELL AS STAFF, CERTAINLY. MM-HMM . THAT'S EXCITING. YEAH. AND THAT'S EXCITING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. WELL, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO SPREAD TO YOUR, YOUR MEMBERS. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE OVER TIME, WE'VE, WE'VE BECOME A, A, YOU KNOW, A PROXY NEWS ORGANIZATION FOR THE MUSIC COMMUNITY. UM, AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO WORK AS, AS WE HAVE FOR SIX YEARS. WE, WE'D LOVE TO WORK MORE, UH, IN TANDEM WITH THE CITY TO, TO DO THIS TYPE OF OUTREACH AND, UH, AND MARKETING ON THESE CRUCIAL SERVICES. SO, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO BE DONE AND WE CAN CERTAINLY GROW IN A LOT OF, UH, AREAS IN THIS RESPECT. WE, WE CAN DO BETTER. UH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KADA. THANK YOU, PAT. UH, COMMISSIONER GOLD. SO YOU, YOU SAID THERE WERE 40 SOME RESPONDENTS TO THIS SURVEY, RIGHT? YES. UM, AND WE HAD, DO I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT THERE WERE LIKE 1500 APPLICANTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, TOTAL TOTAL WAS A, AROUND 1200 THOUSAND. 1028 PEOPLE APPLY. AND 136 AWARDEES 1028. OKAY, COOL. SO I JUST WANT TO ALSO SAY, UH, JUST THROW OUT FOR PERSPECTIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, SURVEY, I, IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO TAKE A SURVEY. IT'S REALLY HARD. SO, AND KUDOS, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION, AND IT'S TOTALLY VALID. AND ALSO WE JUST NEED TO CONSIDER THAT THAT WAS 40 ANSWERS FROM 40 PEOPLE, AND THERE'S STILL LIKE 1200 OR A 1028 PEOPLE WHO APPLIED. SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DID COMPLETE THE APPLICATION, WHO, UM, HOPEFULLY WILL GET SOME SURVEY RESPONSES FROM THEM FROM THE SURVEY THAT ARE CITY STAFF IS, UH, CONDUCTING, OR THAT THE LONG CENTER IS CONDUCTING. I'M SO SORRY, MY BRAIN'S A LITTLE FOGGY ON THAT NOW, BUT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A SURVEY ALSO. UH, ERIKA, IF YOU QUICKLY MAY. THANK YOU. YES. COR CORRECT. SO IN FEBRUARY WE'LL BE PRESENTING ON OUR NEW VERSION OF SPEAK UP AUSTIN. IT'S NOT SPEAK UP AUSTIN. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT SERVICE THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN USES FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT HAS VERY ROBUST SURVEYING, UH, TOOLS TO CONTINUALLY CONNECT WITH AUDIENCE SO THAT IT'S NOT LIKE A SET TIME. PEOPLE CAN GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AT ANY TIME THAT WILL, UH, IT'S BEEN BUILT. WE'RE JUST KIND OF WORKING THROUGH JUST THE KINKS, MAKING SURE IT ALL LOOKS GOOD. BUT WE'LL BE BACK HERE FEBRUARY MEETING TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS. IT'LL PROBABLY MOST LIKELY BE OPEN AND ALREADY OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE BEFORE THAT. UM, BUT THAT IS COMING. AND SO IT WILL BE A ROBUST, YOU KNOW, WAY OF ASKING WHAT DID YOU THINK? YOU KNOW, HOW DID YOU, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE GREAT QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED IN THIS SURVEY, UH, THAT WE HOPE THAT WILL GET A WIDE AUDIENCE OF PEOPLE WHO ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THE GRANT OR DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE GRANT SO THAT WE CAN GET AS BIG OF A SAMPLE AS POSSIBLE. [01:10:02] THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. UH, PAT THAT, UH, WELL, IF I MAY, I, I, I'LL JUST REMIND YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, BUT IT IS A SMALL, UH, SAMPLE SIZE, CERTAINLY SMALLER THAN, THAN I WOULD'VE LIKED. UM, WE'RE NOT PAID TO DO THIS WORK. I'LL REMIND YOU GUYS. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF THE MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE DO, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO IN THE FUTURE, UM, INCREASE THE SAMPLE SIZE ON THESE TYPES OF SURVEYS, UH, WHICH WILL TAKE A LOT OF INCREASED MARKETING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE-ON-ONE TOUCHES, UH, ON OUR, ON OUR PART. AND I THINK THERE IS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE. SO, AND JUST THANK YOU. JUST WANNA ADD THAT. I, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT AS A EDIT A OH, NO, NO, NO. AT ALL. UM, NO, NO. I JUST WANTED, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PERSPECTIVE WAS THERE IN TERMS OF LIKE, YEP. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS. WE, YOU'RE SO APPRECIATED, . NO, NO, THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. I, I, I DIDN'T TAKE IT THAT WAY AT ALL, JUST FOR CONTEXT, YOU KNOW. NO, NO, THANK YOU BOTH. I, I THINK, I THINK IT IS, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS PEOPLE, UH, UM, HEAR THIS EVEN WITHIN THE COMMISSION AND, AND, AND OUR COMMUNITY TO, TO NOT, NOT, UH, CONFLATE THIS WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, MAYBE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? UH, I THINK WHAT WE ARE ALSO APPRECIATING IS, IS, UH, SOMEBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGING WITH MUSICIANS AND, UH, UH, TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO GET FEEDBACK AND, UH, ANY FEEDBACK IN THIS FORUM IS, UH, INFORMATIVE. UH, IT IS WITH THE SAMPLE SIZE AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IT, IT, IT LIVES WITHIN A CERTAIN PAGE, PERHAPS. I MEAN, YOU CANNOT TAKE THIS AS DEFINITIVE INFORMATION. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALL IT IS, BUT IT STILL GIVES A CERTAIN PERSPECTIVE, LIKE YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER, GO, UM, THAT, THAT IS THIS INFORMATIVE IN, IN, AS WE SIT THROUGH THE WORKING GROUPS AND WE, OR WE DISCUSS THESE, THESE ISSUES, UH, AT, AT THE COMMISSION. SO DEFINITELY, UH, WE ARE, UM, UH, WE APPRECIATE, UH, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND THIS IS ANOTHER WAY, UH, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS COMING TO US. UM, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PAT. AND THE, YOU AGAIN. UH, THANK YOU ERICA. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR, UH, YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. UM, MOVING ON, WORKING GROUP UPDATE, [6. Update from the Austin Live Music Fund Working Group by Chair Nagavalli Medicharla.] UH, UPDATE FROM THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, WORKING GROUP BY CHAIR. UM, SO JUST QUICKLY, WE, WE, UM, WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP NOW TO PROVIDE, UM, SOME SPECIFICS AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, GOING INTO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IN 2025. UM, IT'S BEING SHARED BY, UH, MYSELF. AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER PRICE, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND. UM, I DID, UH, REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND AND, UH, UH, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE WORKING GROUP, EVEN THOUGH HE'S GONNA BE AWAY FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, TILL MARCH. AND THEN WE HAVE COMMISSIONER, UH, CARVALHO IN THE GROUP, UH, THAT WE JUST, UH, QUICKLY, UH, GOT TOGETHER IN, UM, UH, TOWARDS LAST WEEK OF DECEMBER. AND, UH, JUST TO SET LEVEL, SET ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE WANT THIS GROUP TO ADDRESS IN THIS NEXT ROUND? WHAT CADENCE, UH, DO WE WANT TO HAVE FOR THESE MEETINGS? UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE, UM, DEALING WITH IS, IS WITH THE MAY ROLLOUT, UH, IT BECOMES IMPERATIVE THAT WE COME BACK WITH SOME, UH, SPECIFICATIONS FOR THIS YEAR, UH, QUICKLY, RIGHT? UH, MAYBE, MAYBE BY THE FEBRUARY MEETING, UH, IF WE CAN MANAGE, MANAGE THAT OR MARCH. I DON'T KNOW IF MARCH IS ALREADY LATE, BUT, UM, SO THERE IS THAT TIME CONSTRAINT. UH, SO IT'S, IT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT AFTER WHAT IS IT THAT THIS WORKING GROUP IS GOING TO FOCUS ON. AND, UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, THE OTHER THING WAS, UH, THAT WE WILL ADD SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL. UM, WE HAVE, UH, UH, NICOLE FROM, UH, THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT WHO HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST. UH, PAT, UH, PAT BTE WILL BE, UH, JOINING THE GROUP. UH, AND, UH, MARISSA, IF YOU MAY PLEASE TELL ME THE LAST NAME, THE INDEPENDENT, UH, PROMOTER THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER CARVAL WHO HAD RECOMMENDED. UM, WHAT I QUICKLY WANT TO DO, UH, IN THIS MEETING HERE IS, UM, JUST REQUEST THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY, MAYBE ONE NAME IN MIND FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE PERHAPS HAS APPLIED FOR THE GRANTS, HASN'T GOTTEN THE GRANTS, OR MAYBE HAS APPLIED AND NOT GOTTEN THE GRANTS WHICHEVER WAY, BUT HAS SOME FAMILIARITY. DEFINITELY WITH THIS PROCESS WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. AND, UH, IF YOU COULD JUST, UM, SEND ME, UH, OR, OR THROUGH, UH, UH, THROUGH STAFF, JUST SOME, UH, ANYBODY THAT [01:15:01] YOU WOULD LIKE, UH, YOU THINK WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE TO HAVE, UH, ON THIS WORKING GROUP. UH, AND, UH, IN JANUARY, WE WILL HAVE THREE MEETINGS, UH, ON THE 15TH, 22ND. THE WEDNESDAY'S BASICALLY OF, HOPEFULLY, I'M GETTING THE DATES RIGHT, 15, 22ND AND THE 29TH, LIKELY ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF ON WEDNESDAY EVENINGS FROM SIX TO SEVEN 30. AND, UH, THE GOAL HERE, UH, IS, UM, TO KIND OF KEEP A FOCUS ON A, ON, ON, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO ADDRESS, ADDRESS FOR, UM, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, FOR 2025 ROLLOUT. UM, AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE ARE MAKING A DISTINCTION BETWEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 5,000 AND THE $20,000 GRANT. DO WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS FOR STAFF, UM, ON HOW, UH, WE MAY WANT, UH, TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT THOSE CRITERIA, RIGHT? OR, AND THE MORE IMPORTANT THING AGAIN, IS, UM, AS, UH, ERICA HAD ALREADY MENTIONED THE LAST, LAST TIME, WE ARE GOING TO ADD A NEW BUCKET POSSIBLY TO, TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, I MEAN, SOME, TO LIKE FIGURE OUT THE NEXT LEVEL OF ARTISTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF THERE'S AN EMERGING, UM, SET OF ARTISTS, THEN WHAT IS, WHO QUALIFIES FOR? UM, YOU KNOW, THE 10 K, THE 20 K GRANT, BASICALLY RIGHT NOW IT'S A 20 TO A 20 K GRANT. AND, UH, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? AND IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO DEFINE EVERY QUESTION, BUT IF WE CAN GIVE SOME BROAD RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND WHAT KIND OF CRITERIA WOULD WE LIKE TO SEE WITHIN THAT BUCKET, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE THE INDUSTRY EXPERTISE THAT THIS WORKING GROUP BRINGS IN WOULD BE PRETTY USEFUL, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE AN IMPACT THERE THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT IT, IT, THE GRANT IS NOT DIFFERENTIATE ENOUGH, RIGHT? SO, UH, WHAT IS THAT DIFFERENTIATION GONNA LOOK LIKE? I THINK WE CAN, UH, PROVIDE SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND THAT AND ANY OF THE SPECIFICS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE BRING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. BUT AGAIN, KEEP, UH, KEEP, KEEP A FOCUS ON WHAT IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, BANG FOR THE BUCK, RIGHT? I MEAN, SO, UM, AND DELIVER THAT, UH, AS, AS, UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, IN, IN FEBRUARY. SO THE, WE, OUR MEETINGS ARE THE FIRST MONDAY, SO, UH, WE'LL GET TO THAT MEETING PRETTY QUICKLY. SO WE'LL HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS, ESSENTIALLY. SO, BUT AGAIN, MY REQUEST IS PLEASE SEND ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE GROUP. UH, PLEASE SEND ME A NAME. UH, THE, THE OTHER, UM, UH, DID I LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE? COMMUNITY MEMBERS? UH, I THINK, YEAH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE SEND IT IN THE NEXT TWO DAYS SO I CAN GET THE MEETING INVITE OUT. THANK YOU. UM, THEO, DID YOU HAVE, UH, I, I, I'M NOT SURE IF, TAKE HONESTLY COMMENTS FROM, UH, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM. SO I THINK I WOULD JUST REQUEST YOU TO REACH OUT TO STAFF AND, UH, AND, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU. OR YOU COULD REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY. THANK YOU. YEAH, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY. YEAH, THANK YOU. IF YOU NEED ANY INFORMATION ON HOW TO REACH OUT TO HER THOUGH, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME AND I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU SO SHE CAN WITH THE ASSIST. ALL RIGHT. BUT REMINDING FOLKS ABOUT COMMUNITY, UH, FIELD, ALSO, IF YOU DO WANNA GET INVOLVED IN, AS YOU RECRUIT, YOU CAN JOIN VIRTUALLY AS WELL FOR THESE MEETINGS. SO LET'S NOT KEEP PEOPLE OUT OR, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO, THE CONVENIENCE OF THEIR HOME IS WELCOME TO JOIN THESE MEETINGS AS WELL. SO, YEAH. YEAH. SO THE, WHEN WE LAST DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE COMMISSIONER, PRICE AND COMMISSIONER, UH, CARVALHO IN ATTENDANCE, UM, WE WERE LOOKING TO HAVE ONLINE MEETINGS, UH, OVER ZOOM. UM, FOR THE MOST PART, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO ONE MEETING IF WE CAN PULL IT OFF IN PERSON. UH, BUT I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS, UH, WE WOULD, WE'D STILL HAVE A, A ZOOM OR SOMETHING AVAILABLE, BUT I THINK, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT. UH, THE LAST TIME WE RAN A WORKING GROUP, UH, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THE SAME ROOM, UH, TALKING FACE TO FACE. UH, BUT WE ALSO MADE ZOOM AVAILABLE ALONGSIDE, SO WE WILL DO THE SAME THING IF WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE AN IN-PERSON MEETING. UM, I THINK WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, ONE SPOT, UH, FOR A COMMISSIONER. IF, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS FEEL COMPELLED TO JOIN, UM, THE GROUP, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, UM, PLEASE VOLUNTEER, BUT, UH, MAYBE SEND THE NAME OVER TO STAFF OR ME SO THAT WE ARE NOT BREAKING ANY QUORUM THERE. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS. UM, COMMISSIONER SADA. OH, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, UM, WORKING GROUP. IT THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WORKING GROUP, UM, GIVEN [01:20:01] ALL THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND PARTICIPANTS, YOU KNOW, THIS GRANT, THIS GRANT IS HUGE. UM, SO GIVEN THE TIMELINE OF YOUR, THE, THE WORKING GROUP MEETINGS, THIS IS ALL WITH COMING TO GOALS THAT STAFF FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH. THE TIMELINE WORKS FOR STAFF. SO AT THE LAST MEETING FOR THIS WORKING GROUP, IT IT, WHEN IS THE LAST MEETING? 29TH. THE 29TH OF, OF FEBRUARY. JANUARY. JANUARY. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TARGETING. I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT A MAY ROLLOUT OF THE FUNDS MAY, RIGHT? UM, IT IS, IT JUST GIVES THAT MUCH BANDWIDTH TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH ANY SPECIFICATIONS THAT THEN ACTUALLY CAN BE CONSIDERED AND BE TURNED INTO SOMETHING REAL. SURE. SURE. SO THEN THAT IT HAS TO WORK. SO WE HAVE TO WORK BACKWARDS FROM THAT TIME THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE DELIVERABLES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU, YOU, THIS WORKING GROUP IS GONNA BE ABLE TO GIVE STAFF. AND THEN IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE COMMISSIONER CAN JOIN OR CERTAINLY, UM, FOLKS FROM THE PUBLIC CAN JOIN. BUT IT SEEMS THAT, UM, THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE REALLY CRUCIAL, THAT PEOPLE HAVE A REAL SENSE OF THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. YES. AND THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE, AND THAT THERE'S NO MISCOMMUNICATION ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AND THAT THE FACTS ARE ALL CRYSTAL CLEAR, SO THERE CAN BE SOME REALLY IMPORTANT DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE MADE FOR STAFF. SO THERE'S, SO THERE'S NOTHING. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO LIMIT MISINFORMATION OUT IN THE PUBLIC. SO NOTHING IS MISCONSTRUED ABOUT THIS VITAL WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. YEAH. YES, DEFINITELY. UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CASADA. UM, UM, I WOULD, UH, AGAIN, FOR COMMUNITY MEMBER PARTICIPATION, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, OR IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN IN, PLEASE REACH OUT, UM, TO, UH, ONE COMMISSIONER OR THE OTHER. AND, UH, SO WE STILL, THE, THE NUMBER IN THE GROUP STILL HAS TO BE, UH, MANAGEABLE. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UM, FOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, MYSELF, COMMISSIONER PRICE, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO FROM THE COMMISSION. WE HAVE, UH, NICOLE BLO, WE HAVE, UH, UH, PAT ER, WE HAVE, UH, MARISSA, I WOULD GET THE LAST NAME RIGHT ONCE ONCE WE NOW, AND SHE'S AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER, UH, IN THE MIX. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SPACE, IF SOMEBODY FEELS COMPELLED TO JOIN THE, THE CONVERSATION, UH, SPACE FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ADDING A FEW MORE THAT, UH, UH, IF, IF IT, THE NUMBER GETS TOO MUCH, THEN WE WILL COLLECTIVELY, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO TO BRING IN. UH, AND, BUT, BUT I THINK THERE, THERE COULD BE SPACE TO ADD A FEW MORE FOLKS, UH, INTO THE CONVERSATION. AGAIN, WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU HAD ALREADY PARTICIPATED THE PROCESS. IF YOU'VE STUDIED THE PROCESS A BIT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU GOT THE GRANT OR NOT, THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE WE WANT ALL PERSPECTIVES. AGAIN, ALSO A VERY FOCUSED CONVERSATION BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO YIELD ANYTHING AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THEN, THEN I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS WILL HAVE TO BE VERY FOCUSED AND DELIBERATE. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY CHECK IN WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER PRIZE CARVALHO, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING, PLEASE DO. YEAH, I, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH SAID, JUST EXCITED TO GET THIS GOING AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO THE COMMUNITY AND FEEL HONORED TO BE A PART OF IT. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN DO AS GOOD OF WORK AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MUSTER TO GET THE BEST OUTCOME FOR AUSTIN MUSIC SCENE IN GENERAL. AND THANKS FOR ALL THAT YOU GUYS ALL DO. SO JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ALRIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. NO, I JUST, JUST CHECKING IT. . NO, NO PRESSURE. I THINK, I THINK WE'LL HAVE, UH, MUCH MORE UPDATES AS WE, AS WE MOVE ALONG, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME ROUND. UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYONE. UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] WE HAVE, UH, WE'LL HAVE THE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE NEXT WEEK, UH, NEXT, NEXT MONTH. SHELBY? YES. OKAY, GREAT. ALRIGHT. UM, THEN, UH, STAFF BRIEFINGS, WE'LL LEAVE, UH, LIVE MUSIC, FUN COLLECTIONS, UPDATE, UH, WE'LL HAVE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND BRIEFING BY ERICA. WE WILL IN, UM, INCLUDE I THINK ANOTHER, UM, ROUND OF PRESENTATION BY A TXM UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND WE'LL HAVE THE SAME WORKING GROUP UPDATE, UH, FOR, UH, WORKING [01:25:01] GROUP, THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND WORKING GROUP, UM, FROM OUR END. UH, ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. UH, IF WE COULD, SOMEBODY COULD MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THE ABOVE AGENDA ITEMS. I KNOW I JUST TRIED TO SEE IF SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO. OKAY. I'LL MOTION. MOTION TO AGREE. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GOUL MOTIONS FOR IT. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. UH, AND WE ARE GOOD TO GO RIGHT THERE. YES. WE DON'T ADJOURN. YEAH, I MEAN, WE ARE GOOD ON THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE JUST NEED TWO VOTES. AND, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN? UH, DID YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND? NO, LAUREN, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT PUPPY? FIRST OF ALL, SOMEBODY WANTS TO KNOW THE NAME OF THE PUP UNI MOTIONS TO ADJOURN . SHE WANTS, I STILL WANNA MAKE SURE I'M SEEING COMMISSIONER GO'S, UH, HAND THERE SO I DON'T GET INTO TROUBLE. . ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GOUL. WE HAVE A SECOND TO ADJOURN. COMMISSIONER PRICE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. HAPPY NEW YEAR. THANK YOU STAFF. UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, A WONDERFUL, UH, 2025 AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND FOR THE COMMUNITY THIS YEAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WORLD KEEPS FALLING APART, BUT THE WORLD KEEPS FALLING APART. BUT THE FALLING APART, BUT THE FALLING APART. I, BUT THE KEEPS FALLING APART, BUT THE WORLD KEEPS FALLING APART. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.