Jan 08, 2025 Historic Landmark

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AND ARE WE READY? ALRIGHT, WELL,

[CALL TO ORDER]

IT IS 6 0 6 AND THIS IS THE WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 8TH MEETING OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION.

AND I WILL CALL ON STAFF TO, UM, READ THE ATTENDANCE.

BUT FIRST I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, WE HAVE A VERY SAD ANNOUNCEMENT AND AN EMPTY CHAIR HERE REPRESENTED, UH, THE LOSS OF COMMISSIONER, UH, JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO, UH, WHO WAS KILLED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO IN A CAR ACCIDENT.

AND, UH, OUR HEARTS ARE WITH THE FAMILY, AND THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO DISCUSS THAT SHORTLY.

UH, IT'S BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT DAY.

ALSO, MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE F THE FIRES IN CALIFORNIA.

UH, I PERSONALLY HAVE FAMILY THERE, POTENTIALLY IN HARM'S WAY.

SO IT'S, UH, WITH HEAVY HEARTS THAT WE CONVENE THIS MEETING.

BUT, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS OUR CALLING AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

SO WITH THAT, LET ME CALL ON STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, HAVE ATTENDANCE.

YES, WE'LL GET STARTED.

COMMISSIONER HEIM SAFF PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER ROXANNE EVANS.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER KEVIN COOK, PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER CARL LAROCHE.

PRESENT, COMMISSIONER TREY MCWHIRTER.

PRESENT, COMMISSIONER HARMONY GROGAN PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER JAIME ALVAREZ.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER RAYMOND CASTILLO IS NOT HERE TONIGHT.

COMMISSIONER TARA DUDLEY PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, AT THIS POINT, UM, LET'S CALL ON, UH, CALLAN TO, UH, NORMALLY WE WOULD START THE AGENDA, BUT, UM, I THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST.

UH, YES.

THANK YOU CHAIR SETH.

UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH THE READING OF THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TRAGIC LOSS OF COMMISSIONER JUAN JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO, WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AS WE REMEMBER OUR COLLEAGUE AND OUR FRIEND.

I THANK YOU CHAIR, SETH.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'VE ALSO HAD A REQUEST THAT, UH, WE TAKE ITEM OUT OF ORDER.

COMMISSIONER GROGAN.

YEAH.

UM, THANK YOU CHAIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, TAKE OUR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER 17, AT LEAST A PORTION OF THAT OUT OF ORDER.

UM, SO IF ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION WANTS TO, UM, SPEAK, UH, ATTRIBUTE TO JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO, THAT COULD BE DONE NOW.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GROGAN AND COMMISSIONER COOK.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING ITEM NUMBER 17 OUT OF ORDER.

PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.

AND, UH, I WILL

[17. Discussion and possible action on recommendation to honor Commissioner JuanRaymon Rubio and his service to the Historic Landmark Commission. (Part 1 of 2)]

COMMISSIONER GROVE.

UM, YEAH.

OH, I'LL GO FIRST.

UM, SAM, WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING UP, ALL RIGHT.

I'M GONNA TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS, FOLKS.

UM, I RECEIVED THIS TEXT FROM JUAN RAYMOND ON DECEMBER 12TH, THREE DAYS BEFORE HIS TRAGIC PASSING.

I FIND SOLACE IN KNOWING THIS WAS ONE OF HIS LAST ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

OF COURSE, HE BELIEVED WE DID IT, AND THAT WAS THE WAY OF HIM.

HIS PASSION WAS INFECTIOUS AND HIS, AND HE SUCCESSFULLY ENCOURAGED SO MANY TO RALLY FOR WHAT MATTERS.

JUAN RAYMOND LED THE CHARGE, AND NOW 1500 EAST 12TH STREET IS HISTORICALLY

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HE FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.

WE'VE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT JUAN RAYMOND'S RICH AND VAST LIFE RECENTLY.

I'M IN AWE OF HIS ENDLESS ACHIEVEMENTS AND HIS UNRELENTING ENTHUSIASM.

I OFTEN WONDERED HOW HE FOUND THE TIME TO SLEEP WITH HIS MANY PRESERVATION ENDEAVORS.

AND KNOWING MORE ABOUT HIS LIFE CONVINCES ME HE NEVER SLEPT.

THE WORLD WAS TOO EXCITING AND BETTER FOR HAVING KNOWN HIM AND WHAT HE TAUGHT ME.

BE LEAD WITH CONVICTION.

KNOW THERE ARE NO ODDS YOU CAN'T OVERCOME.

I WELCOME HIS SPIRIT AS A GUIDING FORCE, AND I ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO EMBRACE HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVE.

MAKE SURE YOUR OPINION IS PUT ON RECORD.

AND PLEASE, LET'S PULL SOME CASES FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA TO OUR FUTURE LEADERS.

LOOK TO JUAN RAYMOND AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO LEAD WITH HUMOR AND HEART.

HE CHANGED OUR PRESERVATION COMMUNITY AND THE CITY FOR THE BETTER.

THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU.

OTHER COMMISSIONERS? YES.

UM, I'M STILL KIND OF IN DENIAL ABOUT ALL THIS, AND THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST TIME REALLY FEELING HIS ABSENCE AND HOW MUCH WE LEANED ON HIM TO REALLY LEAD THE CHARGE IN TERMS OF FIGHTING FOR PRESERVATION.

WE'RE, WE'RE HERE AS KIND OF FAIR ARBITERS OF THESE CASES, BUT YOU COULD ALWAYS RELY ON HIM TO BE 100% PRESERVATION AND TO FIGHT THE FIGHT.

AND IF WE CAN ALL JUST TAKE ONE 10TH OF THE PASSION THAT HE HAD, MAYBE WE CAN CONTINUE ON.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THE CASE 1500 EAST 12TH AND LOOK AT HIS TESTIMONY.

AND I WISH WE COULD REPLAY IT EVERY SINGLE CASE 'CAUSE IT WAS THE BEST CASE I'D EVER SEEN FOR PRESERVATION IN AUSTIN.

AND WE SHOULD ALL MEMORIZE IT.

'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN REPLAY IT IN OTHER FUTURE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

BUT IT WAS REALLY SOMETHING GAVE ME GOOSEBUMPS JUST TO WATCH IT.

AND I'M GLAD IT'S ON RECORD.

AND THAT TO ME IS GONNA BE HIS, THE PINNACLE OF HIS, UM, MY MEMORY TO HIM.

IF I EVER WANNA GET FIRED UP, I'M GONNA GO WATCH THAT.

SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T KNOW COMMISSIONER RUBIO AS LONG AS, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IT WAS HARD NOT TO BE DRAWN IN BY HIS COURAGE AND HIS PASSION AND HIS DETERMINATION.

AND I LEARNED A LOT IN MY SHORT, UH, EXPOSURE, SHORT RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE LOSS IS I FELT HE WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS GONNA HELP AUSTIN GET IT RIGHT.

AND BY IT, I MEAN SO MANY OF THE SOCIAL JUSTICE INEQUITIES IN THIS CITY.

AND SO I FEEL A LITTLE LOSS OF HOPE.

SO I HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE HE'S BROUGHT ALONG AND MENTORED OVER THE WAY OVER THE YEARS WILL, WILL HELP RESTORE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, I CONCUR WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, IN FEELING THIS LOSS QUITE KEENLY.

UM, I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW COMMISSIONER RUBIO AS LONG AS MANY OF YOU DID, AND I ONLY, UM, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET HIM IN PERSON AND HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SUBSTANTIAL CONVERSATION ONCE.

UM, AND THAT WAS JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO AT THE PRESERVATION AUSTIN AWARD CEREMONY.

UM, TOOK TIME TO CHAT WITH BOTH MY HUSBAND AND MYSELF.

UM, BUT HE CERTAINLY IS, UM, A HERO IN, IN AUSTIN.

AND I HOPE THAT IN OUR CHARGE AS COMMISSIONERS, AS PRESERVATIONISTS AND IN JUST PRESERVING THE STORIES OF, OF SO MANY, UM, ESPECIALLY THOSE UNTOLD VOICES AND, UM, MARGINALIZED VOICES IN COMMUNITIES IN AUSTIN, THAT WE LOOK TO THE LEGACY OF COMMISSIONER RUBIO.

AND IT'S JUST AMAZING TO ME TO UNDERSTAND AND REALIZE HOW SIGNIFICANT THE LEGACY OF ONE SO YOUNG, UM, IS IN OUR CITY.

AND, AND I'VE TOLD A FEW FOLKS RECENTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE LOOKED UP TO AND, AND WANT TO BE WHEN I GROW UP.

UM, AND SO CERTAINLY IN IN MY OWN WORK AND IN IN ENDEAVORS AS A PROFESSOR, AS A PRESERVATIONIST, UM, I WILL DEFINITELY KEEP HIS LIGHT ALIVE AND LOOK TO HIS WORK FOR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO, UM, ON THIS COMMISSION AND IN OUR WORK IN AUSTIN THANK YOU COM.

COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ.

YEAH, I, UH, ONCE ASKED JUAN RAYMOND, SO HOW DO YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, CHASE ALL YOUR

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AND THEN AS I GOT TO KNOW HIM A LITTLE BIT BETTER, I FOUND OUT THAT THAT PROBABLY WAS ONLY ONE THIRD OR MAYBE ONE FOURTH OF, UH, ALL THE THINGS THAT HE WAS CHASING, UH, LEARNED THAT HE WAS ALSO A YOUTH MINISTER.

UM, HE PARTICIPATED IN THE ACE MENTORSHIP PROGRAM FOR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL YOUNG ARCHITECTS.

I REMEMBER A YEAR OR TWO AGO HE WAS AWARDED AN EXHIBIT AT A CREEK SHOW, WHICH TIED IN HISTORY AND PRESERVATION.

WONDERFUL.

I MEAN, SO MANY THINGS HE WAS DOING THAT, I GUESS I JUST HAVE TO AGREE WITH HARMONY THAT HE JUST DIDN'T STOP.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

YEAH.

UH, MY WORDS CERTAINLY CAN'T, UH, EVEN BEGIN TO DO JUSTICE TO THE MAN.

AND HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS SUFFICES TO SAY THAT, UH, IT'S A TREMENDOUS LOSS TO THE, THE CITY TO THIS COMMISSION.

UM, AS STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS, WE OFTEN LOOK AT THINGS MORE BLACK AND WHITE.

AND, UH, WHILE WE DIFFERED MANY TIMES, UH, HE WILL BE THE ONE THAT I WILL MISS THE MOST.

AND HE TAUGHT ME, UH, PASSION AND INSPIRATION THAT I COULD ONLY HOPE TO COME CLOSE TO ACHIEVING IN MY LIFETIME AND MY COMMITMENT ON THIS DIOCESE.

THANK YOU, MR. .

UH, LIKE SOME OF YOU, I, I DIDN'T KNOW JUAN RAYMOND OUTSIDE OF THE CONTEXT OF THIS, THIS GROUP, BUT, UH, OBSERVING HIS PASSION FOR PRESERVATION IN AUSTIN, UH, HERE IN THIS ROOM OR DOWNTOWN, UM, IT COMES AS NO SURPRISE THAT THAT SAME PASSION WAS APPLIED TO MANY AREAS IN HIS LIFE, AND HE ACHIEVED SO MUCH IN SO MANY PLACES.

SO IT IS A, A TERRIBLE LOSS FOR, FOR NOT JUST US IN PRESERVATION, BUT FOR MANY COMMUNITIES IN, IN AUSTIN.

SO THANKS.

THANK YOU.

I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO, UH, HAVE THAT MEMORY OF DECEMBER 12TH.

I WAS AT THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, IF YOU SEE IT ON TAPE, UH, IT WAS EVEN BETTER IN PERSON.

UH, HE WAS IN HIGH, HIGH JUAN RAYMOND FORM, AND YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

UH, AND HE WAS OBVIOUSLY EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE, UM, AND VERY INSPIRING.

UH, HE AND I HAD A LONG, UH, BUT VERY, UH, CLOSE, NOT A VERY LONG, BUT A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP.

UH, HE APPROACHED ME EARLY IN HIS TENURE AND WAS ABLE TO GET UP TO SPEED VERY QUICKLY.

AND, UH, AT ONE POINT ASKED ME FOR, UH, I WAS VERY HONORED TO OFFER A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FOR A CITATION THAT HE WAS APPLYING FOR, AND I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT IT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ MY LAST PARAGRAPH OF MY LETTER FROM FEBRUARY, 1920, UH, 2024, THIS LAST YEAR.

UH, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S APP, IT'S APPROPRIATE AND IT CERTAINLY, UM, I DIDN'T WRITE IT THINKING IT WOULD BE A EULOGY BY ANY MEANS.

I SAID, ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, LET ME SAY THAT IT'S FUN AND ENJOYABLE TO WORK WITH JUAN RAYMOND.

HE NOT ONLY ENCOURAGES PARTICIPATION, HIS DEMEANOR AND EXCITEMENT EXEMPLIFY THE BEST QUALITIES OF LEADERSHIP.

I'VE COME TO APPRECIATE THAT JUAN RAYMOND IS NOT ONLY ABLE TO DRAW PEOPLE TO HIS IDEAS, BUT HE'S LEARNING AND EXPANDING HIS OWN UNDERSTANDING FROM EACH EXCHANGE WITH OTHERS.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON HE WAS SO ACCOMPLISHED AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE IS EVERY ENGAGEMENT FOR HIM WAS A CHANCE NOT ONLY TO CONVEY HIS IDEAS, BUT TO LEARN AND TO ABSORB SOMETHING NEW.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT JUAN RAYMOND RUBIO EXEMPLIFIES THE HIGHEST QUALITIES OF LEADERSHIP AND PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE AS AN ASSOCIATE, A I A AMERICAN ASSOCIATION, UH, UH, AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS MEMBER, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED WORK TOGETHER AND HIS CONTINUED PROFESSIONAL AND VOLUNTEER ACHIEVEMENTS.

I KNEW I WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO GET BETTER WITH WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THAT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THAT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAD WOULD BE EIGHT MORE MONTHS.

BUT I TREASURE ALL THAT TIME.

I LEARNED SO MUCH FROM HIM AS WELL.

AND I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ELEVATE, UM, HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT ALSO HIS PERSONALITY AS A MODEL FOR FUTURE, UH, PRESERVATIONISTS, I THINK THAT IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO.

SO, AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, WE HAVE

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I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A VERY HARD ONE FOR ANYONE, ANY ONE OF US TO FILL.

BUT PERHAPS ALL TOGETHER, UH, WE'VE LEARNED SO MUCH AND WITH HIS CONTRIBUTION, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE.

AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE DO HAVE SOME PRESENTATION MATERIALS ABOUT, UM, CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN TO HONOR JUAN RUB JUAN RAYMOND.

BUT I THINK IF WE WAIT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING, WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE IN MORE DETAIL.

SO, UH, JUST AS WE HAD A MOTION TO TAKE THIS OUT OF ORDER, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE FURTHER DISCUSSION TILL LATER IN THE MEETING AND THAT WAY WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA.

SO MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND WITH MS. UH, TREY HORTER.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND LET'S CALL ON

[Consent Agenda]

THANK YOU CHAIR.

ITEM ONE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 4TH, 20, 24 MINUTES.

THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM TWO IS A BRIEFING ON THE A ISD BOND PROGRAM.

ITEM NUMBER THREE C 14 H 20 24 0 1 0 3 13 0 8 SPRINGDALE ROAD IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR C 14 H 20 24 0 1 7 1, UH, IS A HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATION AT SIX 10 BAYLOR STREET.

THIS ITEM IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION AND OUR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.

TONIGHT WE HAVE ITEM FIVE, HR 20 24 0 9 5 1 4 2 AT 25 0 4 BRIDAL PATH.

THIS IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM NUMBER SIX, HR 20 24 1 6 9 8 AT 6 0 4 BRA STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, HR 20 24 1 6 5 8 3 6 AT 4 0 1 6 DUVAL STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT UNDER NATIONAL RE REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT APPLICATIONS.

NUMBER EIGHT, WE HAVE 20 24 1 2 3 0 6 0 AT 1003 MILE ROSE STREET.

THIS IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT, ITEM NINE, HR 20 24 1 4 8 2 7 8 AT 1702 WEST 30TH STREET.

THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 10 DA 2 2 4 0 8 9 5 22 AT EIGHT 10 WEST 11TH STREET WILL BE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT THIS EVENING.

ITEM 10, HR 20 24 1 5 0 504 AT 1113 AND 1115 WESTLAND STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 12, PR 20 24 1 5 9 6 3 2 AT 7 0 5 WESTLAND STREET IS A STAFF REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM 13, HR 20 24 1 6 3 0 9 2 AT 2 4 2 6 HARTFORD ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

IN OUR DEMOLITION RELOCATION APPLICATIONS, WE HAVE ITEM 14 DA 20 24 0 8 8 9 5 2 AT 84 0 1 HATHAWAY DRIVE.

THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM 15, PR 20 24 1 5 9 1 1 1 AT 1606 GARDEN STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND FINALLY, NUMBER 16 DA 20 24 1 6 5 5 2 6 2600 EAST MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

BOULEVARD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM, SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION IF THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SAM.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE READING OF THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 15 16 0 6 GARDEN STREET FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE.

OKAY.

LET'S GO BACK TO 15 AND THAT WILL BE PULLED.

UH, AT THIS POINT WHAT I'LL DO IS LET ME READ THE ITEMS THAT ARE POSTED FOR CONSENT AND ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE ON THIS AGENDA THAT SOMEBODY DOES WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

UH, SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE, YOU CAN GET MY ATTENTION IF IT STAYS ON THE AGENDA WHEN THIS PASSES, THEN THAT WILL BE THE ACTION.

UH, WHATEVER THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THE ACTION THAT WE WILL HAVE TAKEN AT THAT TIME ON YOUR CASE.

UH, PLEASE BE AWARE, UH, IF THERE IS A DEMOLITION AS PART OF THAT, THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR A PACKET OF DOCUMENTATION AND OTHER, OTHER RE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF, UH, AS, AS POSTED ON THE AGENDA.

SO AGAIN, THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THIS POINT, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE ARE DECEMBER 4TH MINUTES.

UH,

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AGAIN, IT OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 7 40 16 DUVAL STREET.

UH, THE REMODELED ATTACHED GARAGE IN A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A CARPORT THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

UH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ALSO IS ITEM NUMBER NINE.

THAT'S 1702 WEST 30TH STREET.

THIS IS NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND POOL AND HAD BEEN POSTPONED PREVIOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS THE NEXT CONSENT ITEM.

UH, THIS IS THE, UH, WEST LINE, UH, EXCUSE ME, UH, 1113 THROUGH 1115 WEST, WEST LYNN STREET IN THE WEST LINE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS THE, UM, UH, THE NOW'S, UH, UM, STORE, THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE WEST FACADE.

THE NEXT ITEM ON CONSENT IS ITEM NUMBER 13.

THAT'S 24 26 HARTFORD ROAD IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN, NOR, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, A NEW CONSTRUCTION.

UH, THE, THAT IS ALL OF THE ITEMS. SO AGAIN, NOBODY HAS ANY FURTHER NEED FOR DISCUSSION.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVE TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA AS NOTED.

OKAY.

WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER LA ROCHE SECONDING, UH, AND COMMISSIONER COOK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? UH, I I DID HAVE A DIS A SHORT DISCUSSION BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH NUMBER 11.

UH, 11 13, 11 15 WEST LYNN, UH, THERE WAS A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS LATER IN THE MEETING REGARDING RETAINING PARKING OFF OF 11TH STREET.

IS THAT APPROPRIATE TO BRING UP SEPARATELY FROM THIS CASE? DOES IT PERTAIN TO ANY ADDITIONAL CASE? UH, IT IS RELATED TO 11 13, 11 15 WESTLAND, BUT IT'S NOT RELATED TO, IT'S NOT CONTINGENT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE PRESENTA OF THE APPLICATION.

SO IT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE SUPPLEMENTAL ISSUE.

WE DO HAVE A PLACE FOR ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? YEAH.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I COULD BRING IT UP THEN.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

DIDN'T NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP IN CONJUNCTION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

MY MIC DOESN'T WORK.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA? IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR APPROVAL.

HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL THE QUESTION THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.

IT IS UNANIMOUS.

UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED IF THAT WAS YOUR CASE.

WHILE YOU'RE HERE.

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE, YOU ARE DONE AND YOU CAN GO.

UH, THE NEXT ITEMS THAT WE

[Items 3, 5, 8, 12 and 14]

SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

UH, ALL OF THESE UNLESS NOTED OTHERWISE, WILL BE TO OUR FEBRUARY MEETING.

UH, SO THAT IS THE, UH, 1308 SPRINGDALE ROAD.

ALSO, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS 25 0 4 BRIDAL PATH.

AGAIN, UH, OFFERED FOR POSTPONEMENT.

AND WE HAVE, UM, ITEM NUMBER 8 10 0 3 MAL PHRASE, UH, OFFERED FOR POSTPONEMENT.

AND LET'S SEE, ITEM NUMBER 12 AT 7 0 5.

WEST LYNN IS OFFERED FOR POSTPONEMENT.

AND ITEM NUMBER 14, UH, 8 4 0 1 HATHAWAY DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR POSTPONEMENT.

I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL OF THE POSTPONEMENTS.

AND UNLESS THERE IS A REASON TO DISCUSS THAT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UH, AND I'LL NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR POSTPONEMENT.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE POSTPONEMENTS AS NOTED.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER GROGAN.

AND THEN BEFORE, UH, WE TAKE THAT VOTE, I WILL NEED TO BE NOTED AS ABSTAINING, UH, ON ITEM NUMBER 14 FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

UH, AND I, THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO PUT IN THE RECORD.

SO OTHERWISE, UH, THERE ANY OTHER CLARIFICATIONS ON THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA? HEARING NONE, I WILL CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.

IT IS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE A DISCUSSION

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UH, THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 10, THE EIGHT 10 WEST 11TH STREET.

AND THAT IS, UM, AGAIN, A TOTAL DEMOLITION.

UH, IF WE GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE THAT TO OUR NEXT MEETING, I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT WILL BE THE LAST CHANCE WE'LL HAVE.

THERE WILL BE A POSSIBILITY THAT AFTER THAT IT WILL TIME OUT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A APPLICANT.

APPLICANT'S NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

SO STAFF, DO YOU WANNA JUST GIVE US

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ONE SECOND, YOUR HONOR.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A, UH, PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY TO THE WEST DOWNTOWN AUSTIN HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, THE APPLICATION IS DUE TO TIMEOUT ON MARCH 3RD.

UM, SO THE FEBRUARY 5TH, HLC IS THE LAST CHANCE TO, UM, UH, MAKE A MOTION ON IT.

UM, IT'S BEEN PRO POSTPONED FOR SEVERAL SESSIONS NOW.

UM, AND, UH, COMMITTEE FEEDBACK IS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT, IF ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION IS PLANNED OR PROPOSED.

IF A DEMOLITION T WANT, UH, WERE TO BE APPROVED, UH, TO STRONGLY CONSIDER A DESIGN THAT RETAINS THE FRONT FACADE, POSSIBLY INCLUDING STEP BACK UPPER FLOORS, CONSIDER THE CITY OF AUSTIN HOME INITIATIVE PRESERVATION INCENTIVE, PUT TOGETHER A DOCUMENTATION PLAN GOING FORWARD TO UNDERSTAND THE BREADTH OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND RECOMMEND THE OWNERSHIP, ENGAGE WITH INTEREST IN NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.

UM, AND THE MOST RECENT PROPOSAL WAS TO, UH, POSTPONE THE APPLICATION TO ALLOW FOR COMMUNITY INPUT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS ONLY THAT OF POSTPONEMENT.

WHETHER WE SHOULD POSTPONE THIS OR HEAR THE CASE TONIGHT.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING OR THE REPRESENTATIVE? YES, SIR.

UH, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WOULD PREFER US NOT TO POSTPONE IT, IS THAT CORRECT? GOOD EVENING.

DREW ELL, UM, REPRESENTING THE OWNER? THAT IS CORRECT.

WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO POSTPONE.

OKAY.

AND THEN HAVE YOU, IN HEARING OUR DISCUSSIONS FROM PAST MEETINGS, HAD ANY, UM, INDICATION FROM THE OWNER THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES OR HAVE YOU BEEN DISCUSSING ANY POSSIBILITY OF ALTERNATIVES TO TOTAL DEMOLITION AT THIS TIME? WE HAVE, UM, MET WITH THE COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SEVERAL TIMES WE'VE COLLECTED, UM, YOUR FEEDBACK AND THE OWNERS CONSIDERING ALL OPTIONS AT THIS TIME.

BUT WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED ANY PLANS.

UM, WE REALLY, THIS IS JUST WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

WE, UM, AGREE WITH WHAT, HOW IT'S OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THAT THE, UM, PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

AND SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST TO RELEASE THE PERMIT AND MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE MAY, UM, MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP AND, AND BEGIN CONSIDERING THOSE ITEMS AND PUTTING TOGETHER PLANS TO BRING BACK TO THE BODY.

AND AS I RECALL, WE ASKED IF THERE WERE PLANS BECAUSE VERY TYPICALLY THE JUSTIFICATION FOR AN DEMOLITION OFTENTIMES IS MADE CLEARER AS WE CONSIDER BOTH THE LOSS OF THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO THE, THE REPLACEMENT.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NO CHANGE FROM THE OWNER.

WE DON'T HAVE AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE PLANS ARE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THERE'S NO CHANGE.

UM, WE HAVE, OR I SHOULD SAY, I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S PRESERVATION AND THE, UM, VALUE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO WE HAVE AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION, MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS SEVERAL TIMES AND WE HAVE AN OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AND HAVE LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO COME TO THEIR MEETING, UM, TO PRESENT TO THEM PLANS WHEN WE HAVE THEM.

BUT AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT.

AND SO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RELEASING THIS PERMIT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE TO THAT NEXT STEP AND BEGIN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

OKAY.

AND THE OWNER IS AWARE THAT BEING IN THE REGISTERED DISTRICT, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE TO REVIEW THE NEW PLANS AS WELL? YES, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK EITHER FOR OR AGAINST? AGAIN, ONLY THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE POSTPONE OR TAKE THIS UP FOR FINAL ACTION TONIGHT.

OKAY.

I SEE NOBODY HERE TO DISCUSS THAT.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UM, WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A POSTPONEMENT AND WE HAVE A, UH, REQUEST FROM THE OWNER NOT TO POSTPONE.

SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

UH, WHAT ACTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE REGARDING THIS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? MOVE TO POSTPONE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GROGAN.

ALRIGHT, UH, YOU'RE, WE CAN DISCUSS THIS IF, UH, THERE IS ANY NEED TO COMMISSIONERS.

I, I, I THINK IT'S WORTH SAYING FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS IS ONE WHERE I THINK

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AND IT IS YET A FAINT HOPE.

BUT, UM, THE FACT IS, IS THAT THERE'S VALUE TO THIS STRUCTURE.

PERHAPS ONE LAST TIME THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD HAPPEN.

UH, AND HOLDING THAT HOPE OUT, UH, I BELIEVE IT IS WORTHY OF TRYING ONE MORE TIME.

UH, BUT THIS WILL BE BACK NEXT MONTH.

IF, IF THIS MOTION PASSES, I'LL, I'LL SAY I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION TO POSTPONE.

UM, IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A DISTRICT WITH A HIGHLY ACTIVE, UH, GROUP OF HIGHLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES WITH.

I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT HAS DISCUSSED, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT ANYTHING'S ACTUALLY COME OUT OF THAT.

SO, UM, THERE ARE OTHER CASES WHERE THERE MAY BE OTHER PLANS IN, IN DISCUSSION.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, JUST A DEMOLITION PERMIT AND WE HAVE AN EAGER AND INVOLVED, UH, COMMUNITY AND I, I'M JUST NOT SEEING ANY PROGRESS, SO I WANT TO GIVE IT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

ANY COMMISSIONERS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, TO OUR FEBRUARY MEETING, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, SO IT IS UNANIMOUS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE MAY

[2. Briefing on the Austin Independent School District Bond Program]

THAT'S ITEM NUMBER TWO, A BRIEFING ON THE AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOND PROGRAM.

WE HAVE DAVE ANDERSON, IS THAT CORRECT? WELCOME CHAIRMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MADAM VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS DAVE ANDERSON AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU A BRIEFING ON THE 2022 A ID BOND PROGRAM AND HOW THAT PROGRAM, YOU MAY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH THAT PROGRAM.

UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, NEXT, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DESCRIBE THE PURPOSE AND THE DRIVERS FOR THE PROGRAM.

I THINK, UH, AT SOME LEVEL, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THOSE DRIVERS ARE.

UM, UH, WE WANNA PROVIDE BACKGROUND FOR HLC EVALUATIONS OF DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUESTS, AND WE WANT TO, UM, REALLY UNDERSCORE THE SIGNIFICANT, UH, SCHEDULE, UH, LIMITATIONS THAT WE'RE OPERATING UNDER.

UH, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL FOR THE EVENING.

UM, I WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME.

EVERYBODY SAYS THAT WHEN THEY GET UP HERE.

BUT, UH, AS A FORMER COMMISSIONER, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE LABOR OF LOVE THAT YOU UNDERTAKE.

SO I'LL BE QUICK.

UM, IF I'M GOING TOO FAST, PLEASE SLOW ME DOWN AND ASK QUESTIONS.

UH, THE AGENDA IS LAID OUT BEFORE YOU.

SO THE BOND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, COUPLE OF THINGS TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT HERE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT FOLKS MAY THINK ON THE SURFACE, THE BOND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, UM, WAS COMPRISED OF NOT ONLY JUST THE PHYSICAL CONDITION OF THE SCHOOLS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, BUT IT ALSO TOOK INTO ACCOUNT SOMETHING CALLED THE EDUCATIONAL SUSTAINABILITY, UH, ASSESSMENT.

HOW FIT ARE THE SCHOOLS TO EFFECTIVELY TEACH OUR KIDDOS? UH, AND THEN, UH, OVERLAID BY A CONCEPT CALLED EQUITY BY DESIGN.

UH, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS.

SO, SO AS THE DISTRICT DETERMINED WHICH SCHOOLS TO PUT ON THE BOND, ALL THREE OF THOSE COMPONENTS WERE A FACTOR.

UM, THE PROCESS BEGAN IN 2021, IT'S NOW 2025, SO IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS.

UM, AND THE BOND STEERING COMMITTEE TOOK ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IN AND PRODUCED THE LIST THAT, UH, THE VOTERS ENDED UP VOTING ON.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

FACILITIES CONDITIONS, CONDITION ASSESSMENT, IT'S FAIRLY SELF-EXPLANATORY.

UM, EVALUATES THE PHYSICAL CONDITION OF THE SCHOOLS.

UM, LOW SCORE INDICATES UNSATISFACTORY FACILITIES, LOOKS AT SITES, CIVIL CRAWLSPACE AREAS, INTERIOR ARCHITECTURE, UM, EXTERIOR COMPONENTS, STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS, ET CETERA.

UH, ON AVERAGE, THE SITE CIVIL SCORE 82 SCHOOLS SCORED UNSATISFACTORY.

SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE REAL QUICK.

UH, ONE MORE, SORRY.

UH, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT.

YOU'RE NOT INTENDED TO READ THIS, BUT THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE, KIND OF, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WENT THAT, UM, THE, THE DISTRICT WENT INTO IN EVALUATING AND MEASURING FACILITY, UH, CONDITIONS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE EDUCATIONAL SUITABILITY ASSESSMENT.

I SEE A TYPO

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APOLOGIES.

HOW WELL DOES A FACILITY SUPPORT TEACHING AND LEARNING? RIGHT? UH, INCLUDES ITEMS SUCH AS EXTERIOR, GENERAL BUILDING, SECURITY, CONTROLLABILITY OF LIGHTING, FURNITURE, ACADEMIC AND ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES, UH, FOOD SERVICES, ATHLETICS, WELLNESS, AND TECHNOLOGY.

HOW WELL CAN EACH OF THESE FACILITIES REALLY, UM, SERVE IN AN EDUCATIONAL, UH, ROLE? UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT, UH, THE SECOND BULLET, THE WORST SCORING.

ESA CATEGORIES ARE ACADEMICS AND LEARNING ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES, FOOD SERVICES AND TECHNOLOGY.

UH, THE BEST SCORING, WHICH IS KIND OF EXCITING TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU, WERE OUTDOOR LEARNING AND ACTIVITY.

ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND FURNITURE FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT.

UH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT INTENDED, THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING.

UH, BUT IT SHOWS AGAIN, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND THE EVALUATION THAT THE DISTRICT UNDERTOOK IN DETERMINING WHAT SCHOOLS WENT INTO THE BOND.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE EQUITY BY DESIGN OVERLAY, THE, THE THIRD LENS BY WHICH SCHOOLS WERE EVALUATED.

SO IT'S NOT JUST IS THE SCHOOL IN A, IN A, UH, IN A STATE THAT IS, UM, SUITABLE FOR, UH, PROPER EDUCATION.

IT'S NOT JUST THAT, UH, THE SCHOOL HAS, UM, THE PHYSICAL INTEGRITY TO, TO SERVE THE STUDENTS, BUT THE DISTRICT ALSO LOOKED DISTRICT-WIDE AT EQUITY ISSUES.

AND SO THOSE, AGAIN, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO YOU'LL SEE HERE, 52 SCHOOLS, UH, WITH HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED STUDENTS OVERLAP WITH HIGH SOCIAL AND VULNERABILITY, UH, CENSUS TRACKS.

NEXT SLIDE, 25 OF THOSE 52 SCHOOLS ALSO HAVE AVERAGE OR WORSE FACILITIES.

SO AGAIN, IT'S REALLY A MIASMA OF ALL OF THE, THOSE FACTORS THAT WENT INTO, UH, WHICH SCHOOLS WERE PUT ON THE BOND LIST.

NEXT SLIDE, COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

AGAIN, I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT THIS BEGAN FOUR YEARS AGO.

AS THE BOND WAS DEVELOPED, FOLKS WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, THE BOND STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, SORRY, FEBRUARY 22, SO THREE YEARS AGO.

BUT IT WAS A ROBUST, AND MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE PARTICIPATED.

I DID, UH, ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, PROGRAM, UM, THAT CULMINATED IN THE NEXT SLIDE, THE LANGUAGE, UH, THAT WA THE VOTERS APPROVED, UH, FOR THE 2022 BALLOT.

NEXT SLIDE.

AS IT APPLIES TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT.

FIRST THING IS THAT THERE IS, UH, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ALLOWS A SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ENTER INTO A SPECIAL, UM, AGREEMENT WITH A MUNICIPALITY, UH, FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

A ISD HAS SUCH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, AND, UH, DEMOLITION PERMITS ARE ADDRESSED SPECIFICALLY IN THAT DOCUMENT.

UM, YOU CAN READ THE, OH, SORRY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE BULLETS.

UM, FIRST BULLET IS JUST STATING THAT THE SECOND BULLET HAS THE DETAILS.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE MAY REVIEW AND RELEASE A DEMOLITION PERMIT ADMINISTRATIVELY WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF A HEARING BEFORE THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION IF THE APPLICABLE PROJECT WAS INCLUDED IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOND APPROVED BY VOTERS.

THIS GIVES THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, UH, BUT, BUT THE OPERATIVE WORD IS MAY, RIGHT? AND SO THERE MAY BE SITUATIONS WHERE, UH, DEMOLITION PERMITS COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE BRIEFING YOU ON THIS.

THE FIRST OF THOSE, UH, THAT BATCH WILL PROBABLY BE NEXT MONTH.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE THIS BACKGROUND.

UM, THE CITY AND THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS SHOULD COLLABORATE TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS, UM, THAT ARE OVER 50 YEARS OF AGE AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU ALL ARE SO FAMILIAR WITH IN 25 2 3 52.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OBVIOUSLY, I DID NOT MEAN FOR YOU TO READ THIS 'CAUSE THE FONT IS TINY AND THIS IS YOUR, UH, OPERATING CREDO FOR, FOR, FOR WHAT YOU DO AS COMMISSIONERS.

I WILL POINT OUT, IF I CAN READ IT, UH, PROPERTIES THE AT LEAST 50 YEARS OLD AND REPRESENTS A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANT, OF, OF SIGNIFICANCE OF AT LEAST, AT LEAST 50 YEARS.

ITEM TWO, THE PROPERTY RETAINS A HIGH DEGREE OF INTEGRITY THAT CLEARLY CONVEYS THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND DOES NOT INCLUDE ADDITION OR ALTERATIONS.

AGAIN, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THIS BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS, BUT, UM, THE DISTRICT FEELS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO, TO RECOGNIZE, UH, WHAT YOUR CHARGE IS AS COMMISSIONERS.

NEXT

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SCHEDULE IMPLICATIONS, UNLIKE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS, UH, THE SCHEDULE ASSOCIATED WITH MODERNIZATION OF SCHOOL BUILDINGS IS VERY INTRICATE.

AND I THINK, AGAIN, THE SLIDE IS NOT INTENDED TO BE READ, BUT TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING IS COORDINATED SO CLOSELY.

NEXT SLIDE, SAM.

UM, THE, THE FOCUS OF THE ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM IS TO MINIMIZE TEMPORARY CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENTS FOR STUDENTS.

AND MAX MAXIMIZE THEIR LEARNING POTENTIAL.

AS I, AS I STARTED TO SAY, AS OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, SCHEDULED DELAYS FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS COULD BUMP YOU WITH SEMESTER, COULD BUMP THOSE KIDS A YEAR, RIGHT? SO SCHEDULE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE STUDENTS.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DOLLAR WE'RE SPENDING IS GOING RIGHT TO THE SCHOOLS.

UH, AND SO, UH, WE WANT YOU TO, TO TRY TO, WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU EVALUATE ANY SCHOOLS THAT MAY BE COMING TO YOU IN THE FUTURE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, HERE IS A, UH, SORRY, WHAT, UH, ONE MORE SLIDE AFTER THAT PROGRAM SUMMARY.

THESE ARE SCHOOLS, UM, THAT ARE ON THE BOND THAT ARE OVER 50 YEARS OF AGE.

UH, JUST A COUPLE, JUST IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF OTHERS.

SOME OF THESE, UH, PROJECTS ARE IMMINENT, SOME OF THEM ARE LESS IMMINENT, BUT THE INTENT IS TO BRING THOSE THAT THE STAFF, AS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE HAS DETERMINED, UM, MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TO REVIEW TO THOSE BEGINNING NEXT MONTH, UH, THE NEXT SLIDE, AND THOSE AFTER IT.

UM, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THESE IN YOUR BACKUP IF YOU WANNA READ, UH, EACH OF THE, BASICALLY SUMMARIES OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT EACH OF THOSE SCHOOLS.

UM, YES.

THANK YOU, SAM.

UH, ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT HOW THE FACILITY DESIGN PROCESS WORKED.

SO AT EACH OF THE SCHOOLS, UH, THERE'S A CAMPUS ARCHITECTURAL TEAM THAT MEETS, UH, AND EVALUATES HOW THE ARCHITECTURE, UM, WILL BE DONE FOR THESE, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE FULL MODERNIZATIONS OR MAYBE THERE'S A PARTIAL DEMOLITION.

UH, AND THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S COMPOSED OF SCHOOL INDIVIDUALS, COMMUNITY INDIVIDUALS, PROFESSIONAL REGISTERED ARCHITECTS, UM, PARENTS, SOME STUDENTS.

UM, AND SO THAT HAPPENS FOR EVERY SCHOOL ON THE BOND.

UM, AND THEY HAVE MET, WHEN DID THEY START MEETING FOLKS? THE CATS? UH, PROBABLY WITHIN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS.

YEAH.

SO THOSE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE IT UNDERSCORE, IT UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF EVALUATING HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF SOME OF THE SCHOOLS.

UH, FINALLY, THE FACILITY, UH, DESIGN PROCESS, AGAIN, THAT INVOLVES, UH, CAMPUS ARCHITECTURAL COMMITTEE, UH, MEETINGS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN AS PART OF THE BOND PROCESS.

UH, AND THEN DEPARTMENT MEETINGS.

SO IN SUMMARY, SKIP TWO SLIDES.

ONE MORE.

THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY SELECTED FOR MODERNIZATION OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS BASED NOT ONLY ON THE PHYSICAL CONDITION, BUT ALSO ON THE EDUCATIONAL SUITABILITY.

AND IT'S ALSO BEEN LOOKED AT, UH, THROUGH A LENS OF EQUITY.

EACH SCHOOL HAS UNDERGONE A DESIGN PROCESS THAT BALANCES THE NEEDS IDENTIFIED ABOVE, WHILE ACCOMMODATING ANY HISTORICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SCHOOL OR THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

IN FEBRUARY, UH, ON MARCH, SO STARTING NEXT MONTH, THE INTENT IS TO, UH, BRING ANY SCHOOLS THAT MAY MEET THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION CRITERIA AS DETERMINED BY STAFF AND ALLOWED BY THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.

UM, THESE IN A PERFECT WORLD WOULD BE PRESENTED IN A SINGLE MEETING SO THAT THE DISTRICT HAS CERTAINTY TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, UNDERSTAND THAT PRACTICALITIES OF THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY DIFFER, BUT THAT'S THE INTENT.

UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN FOR THE 2017 BOND.

UM, AND I JUST WILL, WOULD, WOULD WRAP UP BY SAYING, UM, WE APPRECIATE, UH, THE PRESERVATION, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT THE COMMISSION UNDERTAKES THE DISTRICT FEELS STRONGLY ABOUT, UH, THE HISTORY OF, UM, THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ON THE BOND PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE HERE, UM, TO DO OUR BEST TO, TO CREATE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP HERE AND TO BE TRANSPARENT

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MR. ANDERSON.

THANK YOU.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR PRESENTER? YES, I, I JUST HAD A COMMENT THAT, UM, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

I REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURES AISD IS UNDER WITH THE CHANGING EDUCATION REGULATORY LANDSCAPE AS WELL AS TECHNOLOGY, DEMOGRAPHICS, UM, FINANCES, SECURITY, WE, WE TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT, AND THAT YOU'RE COMING HERE AND ADDRESSING US.

I WAS JUST, UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS ARE CLOSE TO THE HEART OF MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND EVERYONE WOULD THINK THEIR LOCAL SCHOOL HAS HISTORY IN THEIR COMMUNITY, WANNA HAVE COMMUNITY VALUES.

SO I, I DO THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, IS TO, TO ADDRESS THESE PROACTIVELY, WHICH WAS PART OF THE PRESERVATION PLAN, UH, DIRECTIVE.

BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS, WAS HISTORIC VALUE CONSIDERED AT ALL IN ANY OF THESE AS, AS PART OF THE, ARE THERE ANY THAT STICK OUT IN YOUR MIND THAT YOU, YOU WERE PLANNING ON SAVING ANY, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT HAVE BE DISCUSSED NEXT MONTH, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHETHER IT WAS CONSIDERED AMONG ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER.

ABSOLUTELY.

I, I, I, YEAH.

MICHAEL, DO YOU WANNA TAKE THIS? WE HAVE, UH, FOUR FOLKS FROM THE DISTRICT HERE TO ANSWER THE DETAILED QUESTIONS, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MICHAEL MANN.

THANK YOU, MR. MANN.

THANK, THANK YOU.

AND PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.

.

THANK YOU.

MICHAEL MANN.

I AM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FOR AUSTIN, ISD.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DISTRICT FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS, UH, PART, UH, CONSULTANT AND FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS AS A DISTRICT EMPLOYEE, UH, BEEN THROUGH MUCH OF THIS PROCESS.

UM, I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION WAS AROUND WHAT CONSIDERATIONS WERE TAKEN INTO, OR WHAT THINGS WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, EITHER DURING BOND PLANNING OR DURING THE ACTUAL PLANNING OF THE NEW BUILDING OR RENOVATIONS FROM A HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE.

CORRECT.

UM, DURING THE LONG RANGE PLANNING PROCESS THAT, UH, DAVE SO ELOQUENTLY LAID OUT, UM, THERE WERE, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS.

IT WASN'T A PRIMARY TALKING POINT, THOUGH, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

UH, I'LL BE, I'LL ALWAYS BE HONEST WITH YOU.

UM, IT WASN'T ONE OF LIKE A SPECIFIC THING.

MORE DURING THE CAP PROCESS THAT CAMPUS ARCHITECTURAL TEAM PROCESS, IT'S VERY MUCH A DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS, AND THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE TIME, PERHAPS, ALTHOUGH WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT DOING THINGS BETTER.

SO MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE A CONSIDERATION DURING LONG RANGE PLANNING AS WELL, MORE, MORE CONSIDERATELY.

BUT THAT CAMPUS ARCHITECTURAL TEAM PROCESS, ALL OF THAT COMES OUT, WHETHER IT'S, UM, 50 YEARS OLD OR NOT, UH, WHAT IS SIGNIFICANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE STUDENTS, TO THE STAFF.

UM, AND IT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM A MURAL ON THE WALL, UH, SOME SORT OF DEDICATION.

UH, BUT WE DO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT THAT FROM ALL ANGLES.

UM, SO IT IS, IT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND, AND VERY MUCH IMPORTANT TO US.

YEAH, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOCUS ON THAT AS, AS THE COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS, BECAUSE WHEN WE SEE EACH BUILDING IN ISOLATION, IT'S HARD TO GET CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE SAVING, WHAT WE'RE NOT SAVING.

WE'RE JUST FOCUSING ON ONE BUILDING.

SO IF YOU COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU IDENTIFIED AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE IT, IT MAY HELP THE CASE FOR THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY COME FORWARD, WHEN THEY COME FORWARD.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

WELL, I'M ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA, WELL GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

LORI, GO AHEAD.

I, I GUESS I WAS JUST GOING TO THANK, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE TONIGHT AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ADDRESS OUR QUESTIONS.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS, AND I HAVE WORKED ON A NUMBER OF SCHOOL PROJECTS, UH, WITH OUR FIRM, BUT I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE QUITE OFTEN THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHERE PRESERVATION COMES INTO PLAY WHEN YOU DO THAT CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND YOU EVALUATE THE STRUCTURE OF THE MATERIAL TYPES, ET CETERA.

AND DO YOU, I KNOW YOU HAVE A, A GROUP OF CONSULTANTS, DO YOU EDUCATE THEM IN ANY WAY AS TO THE SENSITIVITY OF PRESERVATION WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENTS, BUT BY NATURE, UH, THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT, UM, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL FACILITY OR, OR ANY OTHER BUILDING THAT'S, THAT'S BEING EVALUATED THAT WAY, IT'S A KIND OF AN INDUSTRY STANDARD.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT PART OF IT.

IT'S MORE OF A, UM, IT'S MORE BLACK AND WHITE, YOU KNOW, IS THE STRUCTURE GOOD? ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS GOOD? IS THE PAINT GOOD? IS THE FLOOR FINISHED GOOD? IS THE ROOFING MATERIAL BEYOND ITS USEFUL LIFE? ARE THE HVAC COMPONENTS BEYOND THE ROOF USEFUL LIFE? HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY, UH, WHEN TALKING ABOUT FACILITY CONDITION.

I THINK MAYBE YOU'RE GETTING AT SOMETHING ELSE, THOUGH.

ARE WE EDUCATING OUR EVALUATORS

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IT'S A LITTLE MORE KIND OF OKAY.

BUT I MEAN, IF I, IF I EVALUATE A HOLLOW PLATE TILE ROOF, FOR EXAMPLE MM-HMM .

RIGHT? THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFICULT MATERIAL TO REPLACE.

AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET CHALLENGES THAT THE DISTRICT'S UNDER, AND I'M RESPECTFUL AND I APPRECIATE IT.