* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:08] EVERYONE. [CALL TO ORDER] UM, THANKS FOR COMING TO THE MEETING TONIGHT, HAVING A QUORUM PRESENT WITHIN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND ONLINE. I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 6:06 PM SO FIRST WE WILL TAKE ROLL CALL AND I'LL JUST CALL AS I SEE IT. ON IN ORDER OF THE AGENDA, CHAIR HEMPEL PRESENT, VICE-CHAIR ZA HERE. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON IS ABSENT THIS EVENING. COMMISSIONER WOODS IS ABSENT THIS EVENING. COMMISSIONER HOWARD, COMMISSIONER HOWARD. WE'LL COME BACK. CAN'T HEAR. HE'S COMMISSIONER BARRERA ROME. OH, THERE YOU ARE. I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING. I'M SORRY. OH S**T. . UM, COMMISSIONER RERA RAMIREZ IS ON HER WAY. APPARENTLY THERE IS, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON 35 THIS EVENING. UM, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? HERE. COMMISSIONER HANEY? HERE. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? HERE. COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE? HERE. COMMISSIONER COX? HERE. COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS HERE. ALL RIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER HANES. I DON'T SEE HIM HERE YET. UM, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD, CAN YOU HEAR US YET? YES, I CAN. ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT, GREAT. SO, UM, WE MIGHT HAVE A FEW LATE COMERS COMING IN AND WE'LL RECOGNIZE THEM WHEN, WHEN THEY GET HERE. ALRIGHT, SO, AS USUAL, TONIGHT'S MEETING'S HYBRID, ALLOWING FOR A VIRTUAL QUORUM AS LONG AS THE, UH, PERSON SERVING AS CHAIR IS PRESENT IN CHAMBERS. SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE HAVE A FEW OF US HERE IN PERSON AND, UM, VIRTUALLY AND LIKEWISE, OUR SPEAKERS CAN PRESENT FROM EITHER IN CHAMBERS OR VIRTUALLY OUR VIRTUAL COMMISSIONERS. JUST REMEMBER TO SEND YOUR SIGN IN SHEET PER STAFF, UH, THE CLERK'S GUIDELINES AND ALSO HAVE YOUR GREEN, RED, AND YELLOW ITEMS FOR VOTING. ALL RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING OR, UM, CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. CORRECT. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] MOVE ON TO, UM, THE MINUTES. THE MINUTES, UM, WILL NEED TO BE POSTPONED. THESE ARE THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 14TH. SO, UM, WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTPONEMENT TO OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, WHICH WOULD BE FEBRUARY 11TH. ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT [Consent Agenda] WE'LL MOVE ON TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. UM, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE CONSENT, APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL, POSTPONEMENTS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS OR NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. VICE CHAIR ZA WILL READ THE PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AND NON-DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS. YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST CONSENT ITEMS TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. SO I SEE COMMISSIONER BARRE RAMIREZ JUST RECOGNIZING, OH, SHE'S NOT ON. UM, SHE'LL BE ON IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, BEFORE WE GET, UH, WELL, UH, VICE CHAIR, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND READ THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS FOR TONIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 1 24 DASH 2 0 1, 11 0 6, AND 1110 EAST 30TH STREET, DISTRICT NINE. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ASSOCIATED REZONING C 14 DASH 2 24 DASH 0 4 8 11 0 6, AND 1110 EAST 30TH STREET, DISTRICT NINE. THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT I NUMBER FOUR IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2 24 DASH 0 0 9 0.01 RED RIVER DISTRICT NINE. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 11TH. THE ASSOCIATED REZONING IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE C 14 DASH 2 24 DASH 0 21 RED RIVER DISTRICT NINE. THIS ITEM IS ALSO FOR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 11TH. I NUMBER SIX IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2 24 DASH 0 8 0 1, 7 0 3 7 0 5, AND 7 0 7 GUADALUPE STREET REZONE DISTRICT FOUR. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR, UM, APPLICANT, UH, POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 25TH. THE ASSOCIATED REZONING ITEM NUMBER SEVEN C 14 DASH 24 20 24 DASH 0 3 6 7 0 3 7 0 0 5 7 0 0 7 CARPE STREET REZONED DISTRICT FOUR. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MARCH 25TH. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A PLAN AMENDMENT. THIS IS NPA DASH 2 24 DASH 0 0 0 8 0.0 2 2 9 6 7 MANNAR ROAD DIVISION DISTRICTS ONE AND NINE. THE AS ITEM IS UP FOR A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT TONIGHT. THE ASSOCIATE REZONING ITEM NUMBER NINE C 14 DASH 2 24 DASH 0 0 7 MANNAR ROAD REVISION REZONE DISTRICT ONE AND NINE. THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT TONIGHT I, NUMBER 10 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2 24 DASH 0 1 58 2100 POLARIS DISTRICT FOUR. THIS ITEM IS [00:05:01] UP FOR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 25TH. I NUMBER 11 IS A HISTORIC ZONING C 14, THE H DASH 2 24 DASH 0 1 71 PERRY HOUSE, DISTRICT NINE. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT. I NUMBER 12 IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SPC DASH 2 24 DASH 0 2 3 6 A WALL CREEK BOATHOUSE AUSTIN ROWING CLUB DISTRICT NINE. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT. I NUMBER 13 IS AN LDC AMENDMENT C 20 DASH 2 20 22 DASH 0 2 5 COLORADO RIVER PROTECTION. THIS ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 25TH. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS IN LDC AMENDMENT C 20 DASH 2024 DASH 0 21 SAFETY BOLLARDS. THIS ITEM IS WITHDRAWN. THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. ITEM NUMBER 15 IS THERE RIGHT OF WAY. VACATION 2024 DASH 1 2 8 3 9 LM 1 1 1 4 WEST FIFTH STREET, DISTRICT NINE. THE SIGN IS UP FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONE TO FEBRUARY 25TH. IN ADDITION, THERE WAS AN, UM, ITEM THAT WAS UNDER OUR DISCUSSION IN ACTION FOR INITIATION, ITEM NUMBER 16, UM, RELATED TO SAVE OUR SPRINGS. AND THIS ITEM IS WITHDRAWN WITH NO ACTION REQUIRED AS WELL. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS NEED TO RECUSE OR ABSTAIN FROM THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING? CHAIR? YES. UH, I'D LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS ABSTAINING ON, UM, ITEM NUMBER 11 RELATED TO THE LAND OF THE HISTORIC LAND WORK. OKAY. ANY OTHER RECUSALS OR ABSTENTIONS? ALL RIGHT. UM, LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE, UM, ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? NO CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO, UM, CLARIFY THAT, UH, ITEM NUMBER 15, THE, UH, 1114 WEST FIFTH STREET. THAT ONE'S GONNA BE A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 11TH, NOT FEBRUARY 25TH. THANK YOU. THAT'S NOTED. UM, MR. MATT HOLLAND, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THE COLORADO RIVER PROTECTION? WE'RE POSTPONING THAT, BUT I'LL LET YOU SAY A FEW WORDS. YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. LEMME GRAB MY NOTES REAL QUICK. UH, MY, I'M MATT HOLLAND WATERSHED PROTECTION AND I WANT JUST MAKE READ A QUICK STATEMENT INTO THE, INTO THE RECORD HERE. UM, SO WE ARE WORKING ON THE COLORADO RIVER PROTECTIONS ORDINANCE. SORRY. AND THIS IS REGARDING NUMBER 13, JUST TO CLARIFY. YES, THANK YOU. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO ON ITEM NUMBER 13, COLORADO RIVER PROTECTIONS ORDINANCE. SO IT'S, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S BEING POSTPONED UNTIL FEBRUARY 25. UM, AND WE ADDED A, WE STAFF ADDED A THIS NOTE INTO THE, UH, STAFF REPORT. AND I JUST KIND OF WANNA READ IT OUT BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WERE WANTING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THIS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE BACKUP STAFF BACKUP, BUT I'LL READ IT IN. AND, UM, STAFF HEARD FROM MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG RED BLUFF ROAD CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS OF THE ORDINANCE ON THEIR PROPERTIES. STAFF ARE SYMPATHETIC TO THESE CONCERNS. STAFF'S MAIN FOCUS ON IS ON LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, WATER AND WASTEWATER LINES, ET CETERA, AND COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BUILD TOO CLOSE TO THE RIVER WITHOUT SUFFICIENT CONSIDERATION OF EROSION PROTECTIONS. STAFF ARE LESS FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUALS, SINGLE FAMILY PROJECTS, WHICH ALREADY DO HAVE THE EXISTING 100 FOOT EROSION HAZARD REQUIREMENT, ALTHOUGH IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL TO UNDERSTAND THE RISKS OF BUILDING ON HIGH SANDY SOIL RIVER BANKS. SO WE JUST WANTED TO NOTE, UH, IT IS LIKELY, UH, THAT THE, THAT YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER, UH, EXEMPTING SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING PERMIT TYPE TYPE DEVELOPMENT FROM THIS CHANGE IN EROSION HAZARD ZONE PROTECTIONS. AND WE, WE STAFF WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL. UM, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE IN THE STAFF, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD ALSO SUPPORT. SO WE WANTED TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT THAT. 'CAUSE I, I KNOW A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT LIVE ON RED BLUFF OR EAST CASAR CHAVEZ OR OTTS LANE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, WOULD BE THINKING OF THAT. SO ANYWAY, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK MORE EITHER NOW OR OF COURSE, UH, NEXT TIME WHEN WE HAVE THE HEARING ON THE 25TH. ALRIGHT. NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OH, UM, AND THEN COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 11 PERRY HOUSE? I DID. UM, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT I APPRECIATE STAFF'S WORK ON THIS AND THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO PRESERVING THIS BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC STRUCTURE. UM, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT MY CONCERNS, UM, AS WE'VE JUST HAD AN AWARD, OUR, OUR EQUITY PRE PRESERVATION PLAN HAS JUST WON YET ANOTHER NATIONAL AWARD, WHICH CONGRATULATIONS. THAT'S WONDERFUL. ONE OF THE KEY ASKS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WAS FOR US TO START CONSIDERING HOW WE CAN SEPARATE THE TAX INCENTIVES RELATED TO THESE HISTORIC PRESERVATIONS, UM, TO THE ACTUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION DESIGNATION. CITY AUSTIN IS ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT DOES IT THIS WAY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND I JUST WANTED [00:10:01] TO NOTE THAT I APPRECIATE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND DO AND FULLY SUPPORT THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THIS HOUSE, BUT HAVE STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT THE RELATED TAX ABATEMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH AS WE KNOW IS CHRONICALLY UNDERFUNDED AND ALSO CONSTANTLY UNDER ATTACK. SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO FUND OUR A ISD STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR GIVES ME CONCERN, WHICH IS WHY I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS ITEM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR WISH TO PULL ITEMS FROM THE AGENDA? CONSENT AGENDA COMM OR VICE CHAIR? THANK YOU CHAIR. I JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS AN LDC AMENDMENT, UH, FOR SAFETY BOLLARDS. UM, THIS ITEM IS WITHDRAWN OF COURSE, BECAUSE COUNCIL ALREADY TOOK ACTION ON IT AND I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD ITEM FOR US TO THINK OF AS A CITY AND SORT OF MOVE FORWARD. I, I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT IS THIS IS SORT OF SORT OF JUST DIRECTION FOR STAFF IF THEY CAN HELP US THINK THROUGH THIS IN THE FUTURE. IF WE HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE REALLY TIME SENSITIVE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER THEM. I HOPE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RELAYED TO US RATHER THAN SKIPPING PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH WAS DONE IN THIS CASE. AND THIS HAS HAPPENED WITH MULTIPLE ITEMS OVER THE YEARS. I REALLY HOPE THAT, I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT AS A PRACTICE. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A BODY CAN DELIBERATE ON SOMETHING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE SERVE AT THE WILL OF COUNCIL, UM, WHO SERVE AT THE WILL OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO OF COURSE WE WILL MEET ANY DEADLINE THAT COUNCIL PUTS BEFORE US, AND WE WILL TRY OUR BEST TO MEET ANY AND ALL DEADLINES, UM, THAT STAFF HAS AS WELL. AND WE WANNA WORK WITH THEM, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR DUTY AND GIVING ITEMS THE TIME THAT IT DESERVES. THANK YOU CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OTHERWISE, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I SEE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL. YES. WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OH, I'M SO SORRY, . UM, LET'S GO, GO AHEAD. OKAY. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS SIGNED UP ON ITEMS TWO AND THREE. IT, UH, HIS NAME IS GERARD KENNY. GERARD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OH, I THINK YOUR MIC MIGHT BE OFF. IF YOU WANNA HIT THAT BUTTON THAT TURNS IT FROM RED TO GREEN. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS I SAID, I WON'T NEED THE THREE MINUTES. UH, YOU HEARD FROM ME A MONTH AGO ON THE SUBJECT OF BILLBOARDS, AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE COUNCIL AND THIS BODY HAVE IN THE PAST HAD A POLICY THAT EVENTUALLY WE WON'T HAVE BILLBOARDS IN AUSTIN. AND THE STEPS THAT WE TAKE ON THESE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS NEED TO BE STEPS TOWARD THAT OBJECTIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. KINNEY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE. ANDREW SCHULTZ. ANDREW, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UH, THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, UH, HAVE POTENTIALLY SEVERE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, PARTICULARLY EAST 44TH STREET, WHERE I AND SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE IMPACTS OF THIS PROPOSAL. UH, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE POSTPONEMENT, BUT HOPE THAT THE, UH, COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP US INFORMED AND WILL ENGAGE WITH US ON THESE PROJECTS. AND WE HOPE THAT THE APPLICANT WHO THUS FAR HAS UH, DECLINED TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS WILL START DOING SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM 10, GRETCHEN ROBBINS, GRETCHEN WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. GRETCHEN, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI. UM, YES, I'M VOICING MY OPINION FOR WHAT'S GOING ON OVER IN THE MANOR ROAD. UM, REZONING. UM, I'VE OWNED THAT, I'VE OWNED MY HOUSE FOR OVER, FOR CLOSE TO 25 YEARS. I'M NOT NEW TO AUSTIN. UM, I'VE SEEN A LOT CHANGE. I WAS THERE WHEN MUELLER WAS PROPOSED. I WENT TO THE MEETINGS. I HAD A VOICE AND WE HAD INPUT ON WHAT WAS BEING DONE. THIS REZONING DID NOT ALLOW US THAT. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS BUILDING IS. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE CONCEPT IT IS. WE DON'T LIVE IN THE JETS NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU KNOW EAST AUSTIN AND PARTICULARLY THE AIRPORT 35 AREA, IT DOESN'T GO WITH THE CONCEPT OF THE AREA. IT'S A BUNGALOW CRAFTSMAN TYPE AREA, NOT MID-CENTURY MODERN. IF YOU WANT THAT, YOU NEED TO GO SOUTH OF LAMAR, YOU NEED TO GO TOWARDS [00:15:01] LAMAR UP TOWARDS UNIVERSITY HILLS. BUT, UH, THE HEIGHT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. NO ONE WANTS IT, NO ONE'S HAPPY ABOUT IT. IT'S, UM, GOING TO BE MORE OF A BLIGHT. AND ON TOP OF IT, YOU'RE NOT RESOLVING THE PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. THE TOW TRUCKS AND THE, UM, FILLS AND WHAT YOU'RE CALLING A CREEK BED, A CREEK BUFFER, WHICH IS A DRY PIECE OF LAND THAT'S FULL OF GARBAGE AND POISON VY. UM, HOW ABOUT FIXING UP WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND PROPOSING SOME ARCHITECTURE THAT GOES WITH THIS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOES NOT? AND, UM, HOW DO I SAY ? YOU'RE BASICALLY GOING TO BE TOWERING OVER ALL OF OUR HOMES AND NO ONE WANTS IT. NO ONE WANTS IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU GRETCHEN, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER, OUR NEXT FEW SPEAKERS WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM 15. OUR PRIMARY SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS STEVEN GRIFFITH. STEVEN, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. IS HE VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON? HE'S PERSON. OKAY. YOU WANNA CALL THE NAME ONE MORE TIME? STEVEN GHI. ARE YOU PRESENT? OKAY, MOVING ON. OUR NEXT SPEAKER FOR ITEM 15 IS RICHARD SETTLE. RICHARD, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APOLOGIZE FOR SKIPPING OVER THAT EARLIER. UM, BACK TO, UH, SEEING IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OTHERWISE, UM, WE DID HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, UNLESS THERE IS OPPOSITION. THAT MOTION PASSES NOTING COMMISSIONER MAXWELL'S ABSTENTION ON PERRY HOUSE NUMBER 11. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE [Items 8 & 9] ON TO OUR FIRST DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, WHICH IS NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE. THIS IS THE, UM, MAINOR ROAD REVISION 29 67 MAINOR ROAD. UM, AS A REMINDER OF HOW WE HANDLE THESE DISCUSSION CASES. SO WE'RE GOING TO, UM, FIRST, THE, THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FOR FEBRUARY 25TH. THE APPLICANT WISHES FOR FEBRUARY 11TH. SO WE NEED TO, UH, MAKE A DECISION AS A BODY, UM, ON THE DATE OF POSTPONEMENT. SO THIS IS NOT YET A PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DELVE INTO THE MERITS OF THE CASE. UM, NOT, THAT'S NOT UNTIL WE GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE POSTPONEMENT MUST BE WITHIN 60 DAYS FROM TODAY'S MEETING IN WHICH BOTH OF THOSE DATES THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE. UM, AND WE WILL HEAR FIRST FROM THOSE IN FAVOR OF POST POSTPONEMENT. SO THAT WOULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE JIM WALKER, JUST PROCEDURALLY, I THINK OUR FIRST SPEAKER IN FAVOR OF THE, OR IN FAVOR OF THE VOTE. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE, JIM, YOU'RE FREE TO GO. SORRY. YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, AND I'M, I'M HERE, UH, JANE RIVERA, WHO'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT PERSON FOR ROSEWOOD, WHICH IS, THIS PARCEL IS ACTUALLY IN THE ROSEWOOD AREA. SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, SO, BUT WE SPOKE EARLIER TODAY. UH, AND SHE'S ALSO IN FAVOR OF THIS POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 25TH. UM, SO, SO THIS CASE IS, HAS BEEN HAD SOME, UH, CONFLATED OR COMPRESSED NOTIFICATIONS. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, HEARING WAS ONLY ON JANUARY 6TH. THERE'S A RELATED CASE THAT'S ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA THIS THURSDAY THAT STAFF HAS POSTPONED. SO IT, IT'S JUST A VERY COMPRESSED TIMEFRAME TO EXPECT COMMUNITY RESPONSE AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THE CASE. UM, WE WOULD LIKE MORE TIME THE 30 DAYS TO FEBRUARY 25TH SO THAT WE ENSURE THE MOST IMPACTED RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF A DB 90 CASE, UH, IN THIS LOCATION. UH, THIS IS A FIRST CARVE OUT FROM A TODD FROM THE MLK TODD. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRECEDENT THAT I THINK WE NEED FROM A PLANNING POINT OF VIEW. NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE WEIGHT, A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, A LITTLE BIT MORE ITERATIVE, UH, CONVERSATION. AND THEN THIS IS A REALLY KEY INTERSECTION. THIS IS AIRPORT AND MAINOR ROAD. THERE ARE TWO METRO RAPID LINES THAT, THAT COME THROUGH HERE. THIS IS FOUR DIFFERENT PLANNING AREAS THAT CONVERGE ON THIS INTERSECTION. THERE'S A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY HERE THAT COULD PROBABLY BE PUT TO BETTER USE THIS WARRANTS. [00:20:01] LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT AND TIME FOR WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENT WE SET WITH AN INITIAL REZONING OUT OF THE TODD. SO THAT'S THE CASE FOR POSTPONING. OR YOU CAN DO LATER THE FEBRUARY 25TH IF YOU WANT, WITHIN 60 DAYS, . ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NATHAN KENNEDY. NATHAN WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. NATHAN, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. I, HI MASON KENNEDY. I LIVE ON BROWN FREE DRIVE. UH, AND, UH, I'VE LIVED HERE 17 YEARS. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT, UH, TO AS LATE AS POSSIBLE TO, UH, ALLOW, UH, AS, UH, THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE JUST IN FRONT OF ME TO ALLOW EVERYBODY TO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK INTO ALL OF THIS. THIS IS, UM, UH, A REALLY BAD IDEA, UH, CONSIDERING WHAT, WHAT ALL'S GOING ON AROUND HERE AND, UH, THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS NEEDS TO BE BETTER INFORMED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVE HUNT. STEVE, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES, EITHER ONE IF YOU WANNA SIT OR STAND. HI, MY NAME IS STEVE HUNT AND I'VE LIVED ON ROUNDTREE DRIVE FOR THE PAST 18 PLUS YEARS AS A RENTER. UM, THE REASON THAT I'D BE OPPOSED TO A REZONING RESULTING IN A 90 FOOT TALL 81 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING ON THE PROPOSED LOT ARE MANY. THIS INTERSECTION IS ALREADY ONE OF THE BUSIEST AND MOST UN NAVIGABLE IN EAST AUSTIN. BASIC POPULATION INCREASE AS WELL AS A TRAIN CROSSING IN CERTAIN NEWLY BUILT PEDESTRIAN ISLANDS HAVE ELIMINATED TURNING LANES THAT HAVE ELIMINATED TURNING LANES, HAVE MADE THIS INTERSECTION ALMOST COMICALLY CHAOTIC ROUNDTREE, AND ITS FOUR OFFSHOOT STREETS ARE UTILIZED AS SHORTCUTS TO AVOID THE LIGHT. DIRTY PLASTIC POLES MAKE TIGHT TURNS TIGHTER AND THE TRAFFIC LINES ON A STRAIGHT STREET ARE PAINTED CROOKED. LAST YEAR ON A PEDESTRIAN, ON A NARROW PEDESTRIAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'D CALL IT, AN ISLAND LATE AT NIGHT. A PEDESTRIAN WAS FATALLY STRUCK BY A VEHICLE. IT'S A VERY BAD INTERSECTION. IT MAKES NO SENSE. IF YOU LOOK AT A DRONE SHOT, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE PEDESTRIAN THING THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE. UM, TO CREATE AN APARTMENT BUILDING IN THIS SPACE WOULD BE ILLOGICAL AND THE EFFECTS WOULD ONLY MAKE A BAD SITUATION WORSE. NOT ONLY WITH PARKING AND INCREASED TRAFFIC, BUT WITH THE EYESORE FACTOR FOR NOT ONLY THE RESIDENTS OF ROUNDTREE AND MOSS, BUT WITH THE TENANTS OF THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS THEY'D BE OVERLOOKING VIEWS OF A TOW YARD, AN EMPTY LOT, UH, EMPTY LOT, WHICH IS SOMETIMES A USED CAR LOT, A GAS STATION, AND ALL OF OUR BACKYARDS AS WELL AS BLOCKING THE EXISTING NEIGHBOR'S VIEWS OF THE SKYLINE. AUSTIN IS AN EXPANDING CITY, LITERALLY MEANING IT'S NOT LOCKED IN GEOGRAPHICALLY BY PREEXISTING SUBURBS. THERE'S OUTWARD SPACE AND LAND TO GROW INTO. THEREFORE, I FEEL THAT THERE ARE BETTER PLACES FOR A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS THAN THE PROPOSED LOCATION AND THAT CONTINUING TO STACK PEOPLE INTO CRAMMED LOTS IS UNHEALTHY FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS INVOLVED. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSEPH DARINI. JOSEPH WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. JOSEPH, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S NOT CURRENTLY IN OUR QUEUE, BUT WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AROUND TOWARDS THE END. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KRISTEN MALECON. KRISTEN WILL ALSO BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. KRISTEN, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI, MY NAME'S KRISTEN MALAS, OWNER OF THE HOME AT 2 2 0 3 ROUNDTREE DRIVE. UM, WE AND MY HUSBAND JOSEPH DARINI OPPOSE THIS, UH, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT, UH, INCLUDING A NOT LIMITED TO AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC CONGESTION AT THE CROSS SECTION OF MAYNARD AIRPORT AND ALREADY VERY BUSY AND CHAOTIC INTERSECTION, AS WELL AS THE LIKELY INCREASE IN STREET PARKING THAT WILL OVERFLOW INTO THE ROUNDTREE AND MOSS STREET AREA DUE TO THE LACK OF PLANNED PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH A LARGE DEVELOPMENT. AND OF COURSE, THE, UH, NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF A BUILDING, UH, OF SUCH A HEIGHT BACKING UP TO RESIDENTIAL, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK HILTON. MARK WILL ALSO BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. MARK, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. [00:25:06] YEAH. HI, WE'RE HOMEOWNERS THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UH, WE'RE AGAINST THE PROPOSAL TO CHANGE IT OUT OF TDD TO DB 90 FOR FOUR REASONS, UH, FOR COMMISSIONERS TO TAKE THE UNPRECEDENTED ACTION OF SELECTING THIS ONE SLITHER OF AREA FOR ZONING CHANGE THAT SHOULD NOT ONLY BE SUFFICIENT REASON, BUT ALSO SUBSTANTIAL POSITIVE OUTCOME, UH, FOR IT SHOULD ACT AS A BEACON IN THIS OUTCOME. FOR ZONING CHANGES THE PRESENTED APPLICATION, THE 81 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING WITH NO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SANDWICH BETWEEN THE TOW TRUCK BUSINESS IN AN AUTO FINANCE AND B GREAT GAS STATION, WILL NOT PROVIDE THIS GUIDING STAR. THE ACTION WILL PUT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT RISK. THERE IS NO BUILDING LOCATED ON OR NEAR THE MAINOR AIRPORT INTERSECTION THAT IS AT 90 FEET AND BACKS ONTO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. BY LAW DEVELOPERS DON'T NEED TO, AND AS CONFIRMED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT SPOKES SPOKESPERSON, DO NOT INTEND TO PROVIDE AMPLE PARKING FOR THE 81 PROPOSED DWELLINGS. WITH MANY OF FA MANY FAMILIES IN AUSTIN OWNING MORE THAN ONE CAR, ONE CAN EASILY REALIZE THAT THE SURROUNDING STREETS OF MOSS AND ROUNDTREE WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED. IT'D BE IRRESPONSIBLE OF THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL INCREASE PARKING CONGESTION AND DECREASE RESIDENCE RIGHTS TO PARK IN THEIR OWN STREET. THE MANOR AIRPORT INTERSECTION SERVES AS A TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR THAT IS ALREADY CLOGGED WITH TRAFFIC. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITS LESS THAN 30 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM GOOGLE MAPS RESIDENTS TRYING TO ENTER AND EXIT, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT PEAK TIMES WILL LEAD TO BEING IN DISASTER. IT WILL ALSO INCENTIVIZE THE CUT THROUGHS AS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THROUGH MOSS AND ROUNDTREE AS ACCESS TO MENA AND AIRPORT IS FAR, FAR EASIER. I'M NOT SURE HERE WHO REGULARLY WALKS THE CROSSING OF MENA AND AIRPORT, BUT WE URGE COMMISSIONERS TO BEFORE TO BEFORE THEY MAKE THEIR DECISION TO TRY AND CROSS THIS INTERSECTION. THERE'S 10 DIFFERENT LANES WE'RE TO NAVIGATE AND VERY LITTLE SIGNAGE WITH NO VISIBLE PAINTED LINES PER PEDESTRIANS. SIR, WE'RE AT TIME IN DESPERATE NEED OF UPDATING. THANK YOU. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE SPOKEN AT PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE DISCUSSING THE POSTPONEMENT ONLY. WE'RE NOT DIVING INTO THE MERITS. SO THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST IS EITHER FOR FEBRUARY 11TH OR FEBRUARY 25TH. SO JUST A, A FRIENDLY REMINDER ABOUT THAT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YES, CHAIR. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TARA CHAPMAN. TARA WILL ALSO BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. TARA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES JUST RE RECOGNIZING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CHAIR. COHEN HAS, UH, HAS MADE THE MEETING AND BRAVED THAT 35 TRAFFIC SO BAD. IS THERE A STICKER ONLINE? YES, SHE'S ONLINE. UM, TARA, PLEASE PRESS SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO YOU. THERE WE GO. OKAY. UH, APOLOGIES. CAN I PROCEED? YES, YES, PLEASE GO. OH, OKAY. SORRY FOR THAT. IT WAS NOT GOING THROUGH FOR ME. UM, YES, THIS IS TARA CHAPMAN AND I AM CALLING IN WITH MY PARTNER AND I LA FINK. WE HAVE OWNED ON ROUNDTREE SINCE 2016. UM, I REALIZE THAT THIS IS TO ADDRESS THE POSTPONEMENT, SO I WILL JUST SAY THAT OUR, UH, CONCERNS, UM, I I WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE SAID BEFORE ME. UM, AND THAT YES, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE, UM, LATER FEBRUARY, I BELIEVE IT WAS 26TH, 25TH, UH, 25TH. 25TH, RIGHT. THE, THE 25TH. YES, THE 25TH. UM, IN FAVOR OF POSTPONEMENT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GRETCHEN ROBBINS. GRETCHEN WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. GRETCHEN, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. I, ALL RIGHT. IS SHE THERE? YES. UM, MA'AM, IF YOU WANNA PRESS STAR SIX AND COME OFF MUTE. [00:30:06] YES, CHAIR. I BELIEVE SHE SPOKE FOR THIS ITEM. SHE SIGNED UP FOR TWO ITEMS DURING THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE WAS SPEAKING FOR THIS ITEM WHENEVER WE ORIGINALLY CALLED ON HER. SHE ALSO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, 2100 POLARIS. UM, I BELIEVE SHE MAY HAVE GOTTEN CONFUSED, GRETCHEN. IF SO, COULD YOU PLEASE CONFIRM FIRM. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AFTER? YES, CHAIR. WE HAVE ABOUT THREE MORE. WELL, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER AND WE CAN COME BACK. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER ROS. JENNIFER, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. HI THERE. I THOUGHT I HAD ORIGINALLY YIELDED MY TIME, BUT, UM, HERE I AM. SO, UM, DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND I AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING FOR THE MAINOR AIRPORT, UM, AGENDA THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GERARD KENNY GERARD, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, I WAS ACTUALLY THE PERSON WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE BACK WHEN THE TODD BOUNDARIES WERE BEING DEVELOPED TO EXTEND OUT AND GRAB THE INTERSECTIONS AT MAYNARD, AT AIRPORT BOULEVARD OF MAYNARD ROAD AND MLK BECAUSE WE FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THAT ALL BE LOOKED AT THE SAME COMMUNITY BENEFITS BE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES. IT'S A MISTAKE TO CHERRY PICK ONE PROPERTY AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN INSTEAD OF THAT IS THAT THE WHOLE TODD NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND THEN COME BACK TO THIS ALSO, WE, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT INTERSECTION, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE TIME TO LOOK AT THAT. SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO POSTPONE IT LONG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO REALLY CONSIDER THOSE OPTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND CHAIR. IT LOOKS LIKE JOSEPH DARINI IS NOT IN OUR QUEUE AS OF RIGHT NOW. AND SO I'M JUST GONNA CIRCLE BACK ONCE MORE TO GRETCHEN ROBBINS. GRETCHEN, DID YOU HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE CONCLUDE ON THIS ITEM? IF SO, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. HEARING NONE, CHAIR, THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. WE'LL MOVE TO THOSE OPPOSED TO THE, UM, THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST OF THIS WOULD BE TO FEBRUARY 25TH. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS VICTORIA HASI WITH THROWER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNER. UH, WE ARE AMENABLE TO A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT ON THIS CASE TO SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. I WILL SAY AFTER ALL THE COMMENTS I HEARD THIS EVENING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYONE'S MIND IS GOING TO BE CHANGED WITHIN TWO WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS, BUT WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE MORE AND HAVE MORE CONVERSATION. UM, THIS CASE WAS FILED IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, AND NOTICE WENT OUT TO PEOPLE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF. THERE WERE SOME MATTERS RELATED TO NEEDING TO NOTIFY BASED OFF OF THE TOD BOUNDARY, WHICH IS WHY IT TOOK A LITTLE LONGER. BUT ONCE THAT WAS FIGURED OUT BY STAFF AND CITY, LEGAL NOTIFICATION WENT OUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT MEETING THAT HAPPENED, WHICH THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING. UM, AND SINCE THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD, UH, JIM MENTION THAT IT, THIS ITEM IS APPEARING ON THIS THURSDAY'S COUNCIL AGENDA, BUT IT'S ONLY APPEARING BECAUSE THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THESE ITEMS BE POSTED ON AN AGENDA WITH A PERIOD WITHIN A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME TO KEEP THE APPLICATIONS LIVE AND MOVING FORWARD. SO THERE WAS NEVER ANY INTENT FOR THIS PROJECT TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL ON THURSDAY. IT WAS JUST A FORMALITY THAT IT HAD TO, HAD TO HAPPEN THAT WAY. WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE TWO WEEKS, SEE WHERE WE CAN GET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE GREATER DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION. UM, AGAIN, THIS EVENING IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SAID TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT, IT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME TO HEAR. SO WE WE'RE AGREEABLE TO TWO WEEKS. IF WE GET TO TWO WEEKS AND, AND MORE TIME IS NEEDED AND IT'S CLEAR THAT EVERYONE'S MAKING AN EFFORT, PERHAPS [00:35:01] WE POSTPONE AGAIN, BUT WE WOULD, WE'RE, WE'RE AMENABLE TO TWO WEEKS AT THIS POINT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RON THROWER. RON, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. HOW FAST OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JAKE BREN. JAKE WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY. JAKE, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. LOOKS LIKE JAKE IS NOT IN OUR QUEUE AS OF RIGHT NOW. AND SO THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OR, YEAH. UM, WERE THERE ANY, UM, SPEAKERS WHO HAD DROPPED OFF THAT ARE NOW, NOW BACK ON THAT WE NEED TO CIRCLE BACK TO? LOOKS LIKE GRETCHEN IS STILL ONLINE. IF YOU HAD ANY FINAL COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY, MA'AM, AGAIN, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED. BUT IF NOT, THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR ROUND ROBIN. SO COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE EIGHT SPOTS, UH, FIVE MINUTES EACH TO ASK QUESTIONS, UH, TO STAFF, TO THE APPLICANT, TO THE, THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHO HAS OUR FIRST QUESTION? AND REMEMBER, THIS IS JUST ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT, NOT ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE CASE. VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEE FROM THE APPLICANT'S SIDE, WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THIS GOING TO COUNCIL, BUT THERE IS GONNA BE A POSTPONEMENT. CAN WE HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF THE TIME SENSITIVITY FROM THE APPLICANT OR WHAT THEY'RE SORT OF WILLING IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT A POSTPONEMENT? CAN YOU, SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? UH, NO WORRIES. JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT'S PERSPECTIVE OF IS THERE ANY LIABILITY FOR A POSTPONEMENT? TO WHAT DEGREE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TIME SENSITIVITIES AROUND THIS CASE? UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE ISN'T A, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO COUNSEL. I MEAN, IT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT WON'T BE HEARD ON THURSDAY. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE CAN GET IN TWO WEEKS. THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TO BE DONE BY THIS TIME. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S A MATTER OF, THIS CASE HAS BEEN FILED SINCE JULY AND A LOT OF TIME HAS BEEN TAKEN TO, TO FIGURE SOME OF THESE ITEMS OUT IN TERMS OF THE TOD BOUNDARY AND WHATNOT. AND SO WE, WE REALLY DON'T WANNA PROLONG THIS ANY FURTHER THAN IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE. AGAIN, FROM THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD, I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE EVER GOING TO REACH A SPACE THAT, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SUPPORT, BUT I'M GOING TO REMAIN HOPEFUL. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND AS A FOLLOW UP, I, I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT YOU DO FEEL LIKE IN TWO WEEKS YOU WILL MAKE AN ACTIVE EFFORT TO SIT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHOEVER THE FOLKS ARE WHO HAVE CONCERNS. AND AS FAR AS AT LEAST ANSWERING ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS, I UNDERSTAND YOU MIGHT NOT GET TO FULL AGREEMENT, BUT AS LONG AS YOU KNOW, FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MOVING FORWARD AND HEARING OF THOSE CONCERNS. ABSOLUTELY, AND I I WILL SAY THAT AFTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT MEETING IN EARLY JANUARY, UM, THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING CONTACT TEAM WAS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING AND I REACHED OUT TO HER RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING CONCLUDED, SHE EMAILED ME BACK AND SAID THAT SHE WOULD BE IN TOUCH, BUT WE'VE, I'VE NOT HEARD FROM HER SINCE. SO MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE MORE DIALOGUE, MORE CONVERSATION. UM, BUT TWO WEEKS IS, IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOOT FOR. I APPRECI THEN, AND I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT, WHICH IS, I KNOW WE'RE RIGHT AT THE CUSP OF THE YEAR, SO I CAN UNDERSTAND FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDE AS WELL WHY IT'S BEEN HARD. SO HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT GOING AND, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HAPPENS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HOPEFULLY CONVERSATIONS CAN CONTINUE AS THIS GOES TO COUNCIL AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY, YES. UM, CHAIR, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, COMM COMMISSIONER MARIA RAMIREZ. IS THAT YOU? NO, NO, THIS IS GRETCHEN. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU, YOU GUYS DID NOT NOTICE ME. THE ONLY NOTICE I GOT WAS THE DAY OF A MEETING YOU HAD, I'M SORRY. AND I'M TWO HOURS BEHIND AND YOUR MEETING WAS DONE BY THE TIME I OPENED MY MAIL, AND THAT'S THE ONLY NOTICE I'VE GOTTEN AT ALL. SO PLEASE DON'T SAY YOU KNOW THAT YOU'VE NOTIFIED EVERYONE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T. I'M SORRY. WE'RE IN A Q AND A, UH, ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT. NEXT QUESTION. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER COX, UM, I GUESS QUESTION TO STAFF. UM, WE HAVE HEARD A FEW PEOPLE, UH, MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT NOTIFICATION, UM, AND THE SCHEDULE DOES CONFUSE ME A LITTLE BIT WHY IT'S ON THURSDAY'S COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA. AND SO, UM, CAN [00:40:01] YOU JUST ELABORATE FOR THE COMMISSION WHAT NOTIFICATIONS WENT OUT AND WHAT WHAT STAFF SCHEDULE IS? SURE. THIS IS JONATHAN TOMKO, UH, WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UM, THIS CASE WAS DUAL NOTICED, UH, FOR JANUARY 14TH, 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UH, JANUARY 30TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM, THE REASON IT WAS DUAL NOTICE IS BECAUSE THIS CASE REQUIRED A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE MAILING. UM, STA UH, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT INDICATED THAT WE NEEDED TO NOTICE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT TRACT WITHIN THE ENTIRE TOD BOUNDARIES AND WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE TOD BOUNDARIES. SO THAT WAS AN ESTIMATED 3,500 ADDRESSES THIS MAILING HAD TO GO OUT TO. UM, AND SO AS A RESULT, UH, IN TRYING TO BE PRUDENT WITH TAXPAYER RESOURCES, UM, WE WANTED TO DO ONE MAILING IN TERMS OF A DUAL NOTICE. AND SO THOSE DATES, UM, MET THE CODE OF BEING WITHIN 45 DAYS OF THE MAILING DATE, UM, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY CODE. UM, AND THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO POSTPONE THOSE, UH, STAFF WOULD POSTPONE THOSE TO, UM, ADD MORE SPACE IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO MEETINGS. UH, SO THAT WAY WE ONLY HAD TO DO ONE NOTICE. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE INTENTIONALLY SENT OUT NOTICE TO A LARGE GROUP OF CITIZENS AROUND THIS CASE WITH PURPOSELY INCORRECT DATES WITH THE INTENT THAT WE WOULD POSTPONE THIS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ALREADY A VERY COMPLICATED AND CONVOLUTED PROCESS FOR THE AVERAGE CITIZEN TO UNDERSTAND, BUT THEN TO NOTICE A DATE THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE DURING A MEETING. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? I I THINK THAT THE, THE IDEA WAS IF THE CASE WAS READY TO BE HEARD ON THOSE DATES, THE CASE WOULD BE HEARD IF THERE NEEDED TO BE A POSTPONEMENT TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, EITHER FROM THE STAFF OR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN THAT IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY WELL, WELL, BUT THAT, BUT THAT'S THE CASE FOR EVERY CASE, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO THIS CASE. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSTPONE ANY CASE. BUT WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF GIVING ME AN ELABORATE EXPLANATION FOR THE NOTICES BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL KNEW THAT THIS CASE WOULD VERY LIKELY NOT BE READY AND THAT WE WOULD END UP POSTPONING, BUT YOU WANTED TO SAVE SOME MONEY, SO YOU PUT IN LIKELY INCORRECT DATES. NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT. THE, THE CASE WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY STAFF. WE WERE CLOSE TO A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, A STAFF REPORT WAS DEVELOPED, UH, IT WAS NOT READY TO BE HEARD AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. UM, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE, LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS ANY NEFARIOUS INTENT OR THAT THERE WAS ANY GUARANTEE THAT THESE CASES WERE NOT GONNA BE ALONG THAT TIMELINE. THE CASE WAS NOTIFIED PER THE CODE TO WHO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO. AND FOR DAYS THAT WERE WITHIN WHAT'S REQUIRED BY CODE, UM, THE CASE DID NOT EXPIRE FROM THE TIME THAT IT WAS SUBMITTED IN JULY OF 2024. UM, IT WAS CLOSE TO BEING AT, AT THAT EXPIRE EXPIRATION DATE. HOWEVER, THE DUAL NOTICE, UH, WHICH STAFF OPTED TO, TO DO, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS COMMONLY DONE, UM, ALLOWED US TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF MAILINGS, MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING NOTICE TO CITIZENS AND GAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE OPTION FOR THE CASE TO BE. UM, OKAY, SO, SO, NO, NO, NO. I, I, I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, JUST WANNA ASK YOU A FEW MORE QUESTIONS WITHIN MY TIME. UM, I'M BEING TOLD BY A FEW PEOPLE THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMPORTANT CASE BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY REMOVING THIS PROPERTY FROM THE TOD. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COMMONLY DO? IS THAT, I MEAN, HAVE WE ALREADY SET THAT PRECEDENT QUITE A FEW TIMES, REMOVING PROPERTIES FROM TODS? WE HAVE NOT SET A PRECEDENT FOR DOING THAT. HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW THAT OPENING THE DOOR TO THIS PRECEDENT MEANS THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS SAY YES TO, UH, A CASE. WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO WEIGH THE, UH, ASK, UH, WITH OUR PLANNING PRINCIPLES, AND IN THIS CASE THE, UM, AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS, WHETHER THAT BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE MERITS OF THE CASE. I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP THINGS TO THE, THE WELL, NO, NO, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST THINK IT'S KIND OF, I, I I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT YOU'RE SAYING YES, WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT, BUT DON'T WORRY BECAUSE WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO DO THIS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT WITH THIS CASE. THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING TO ME. AND, AND I READ THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT, UH, OBVIOUSLY, AND THERE REALLY ISN'T A WHOLE LOT, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT STAFF COMMISSIONER COX THINKING THAT THE TOD NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, BUT WE'RE AT TIME. OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M RECOGNIZING COMMISSIONER HAYNES, UM, WELL, HE'S NOT ON SCREEN, BUT HAS JOINED THE MEETING. [00:45:03] COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. YEAH, A QUESTION FOR STAFF. SORRY TO HAVE YOU SIT DOWN MR. TOMKO, UM, REGARDING TIMING, AND OBVIOUSLY I DON'T THINK WE'VE REMOVED A A OR REZONED A TOD PROPERTY TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN TOD, BUT IS THERE A PROCEDURE IN THE M-L-K-T-O-D FOR MODIFYING THAT ZONING DESIGNATION, WHETHER IT'S CHANGING SUB-DISTRICTS, AND WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OR HEARD ABOUT YEAH. UH, A LARGER COMPREHENSIVE CHANGE VERSUS A SINGLE SITE. UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE KIND OF TIMEFRAME IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE CITY TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? UH, JONATHAN TOMKO AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON STAFF RESOURCES WITHIN THE TEAM THAT UPDATES THE PLANS. MM-HMM . UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE PROJECT CONNECT AND WE HAVE MANY AREAS AROUND HIGH FREQUENCY TRANSIT THAT HAVE NEVER RECEIVED ANY PLANNING WHATSOEVER. AND SO IT'S REALLY CONCERNING THAT THOSE AREAS WOULD NOT GET THAT FIRST PLAN THAT'S KIND OF CURRENT AND UP TO DATE. THE MLK STATION AREA, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE MERITS OF THE CASE, IS LARGELY BUILT OUT. THERE'S A FEW AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE PERIPHERY THAT HAVE NOT, UM MM-HMM . BEEN BUILT OUT, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE AREAS. SO, UM, THE REQUEST WAS RECEIVED AND STAFF EVALUATED WHETHER, UM, BREAKING A PART OF THE PLAN WOULD BE PRUDENT TO, UH, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . AND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT IN TERMS OF RECEIVING THE REQUEST AND SEEING THAT, UM, THE, THE CASE HAD COME IN AND, AND WE WERE REVIEWING THAT REQUEST, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE RESOURCES OF STAFF TO BE ABLE TO UPDATE A PLAN COMPREHENSIVELY LIKE THAT. AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AT THIS TIME. OKAY. AND SO YOU, TO CLARIFY, AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IN YOUR OPINION OR IN STAFF'S OPINION, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO UPDATE THE M-L-K-T-O-D PLAN BEFORE THIS CASE WOULD EXPIRE. IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS ACCURATE, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST A NOTE TO COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE RIGHT AT QUORUM, SO JUST PLEASE BE AWARE IF YOU'RE GOING ON AND OFF SCREEN, DO A QUICK COUNT TO SEVEN, UH, BEFORE YOU DO SO. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS LIPS? YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR CLAIRE. UM, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, UH, STAFF AND MAYBE THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. GIVEN WHAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT. THERE ARE SOME, UM, LET'S SAY MORE DIFFICULT AND COMPLICATING ISSUES AROUND THE TOD AND, UM, THOSE ISSUES AND NOTICE IS TWO WEEKS SUFFICIENT TIME? DOES EVERY, DOES, DOES EACH PARTY BELIEVE THAT TWO WEEKS TIME IS A GOOD, UH, AMOUNT OF TIME TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES? I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM ALL THREE. JUST A QUICK KIND OF YES OR NO, AND A QUICK WHY. I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT GAVE US A SENSE OF THEY WOULD GO TWO WEEKS AND IF THEY WEREN'T READY, THEY MIGHT CONSIDER, SO MAYBE I DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD REP AND ALSO FROM THE CITY, UH, THANK YOU, UH, JIM WALKER. UM, NUMBER ONE, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY NEFARIOUS INTENT BY STAFF ON THE, ON THE NOTICE, ANYTHING. I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE GOT THERE, BUT THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THEN HAVING ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THE MERITS OF THE CASE AND, AND THE LARGER IMPLICATIONS. SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY KIND OF INTENT BEHIND IT, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. UH, I, KNOWING HOW COMMUNITY WORK GOES, UH, I'D LIKE MORE THAN 30 DAYS, RIGHT? TO GET PEOPLE TOGETHER, TO GET THEM TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. BUT I, I THINK TWO WEEKS IS, IS AWFULLY QUICK TO, TO TRY TO EXPECT BRINGING UP AWARENESS OF WHAT DB 90 IS OR WHAT THE INTERSECTION IS, WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT THE, WHAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THE APPLICANT, UH, IN THAT CONVERSATION. WHAT WOULD BE IN AMENABLE TO CITY STAFF? UM, SO I THINK FOUR WEEKS IS NOT A HUGE ASK. I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S GONNA IMPACT THE APPLICANT'S TIMELINE FOR ANYTHING THEY MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT. SO, UH, HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. I THINK YOU'RE FROM THE CITY. PERHAPS, UM, IF I COULD GET THEIR INPUT ON WHETHER THAT TWO WEEK PERIOD IS TOO MUCH OF A TRUNCATED PERIOD, OR IS IT SUFFICIENT TIME TO WORK DONE THAT JOHN JONATHAN TOMKO WITH PLANNING, JIM WALKER JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, JONATHAN TOMKO WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE'RE STAFF IS NOT REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT ON THIS CASE AND DOESN'T HAVE A POSITION IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH TIME WOULD BE SATISFACTORY, BUT STAFF DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS MATTERS. AND I'M JUST ASKING, [00:50:01] I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE, UM, AN OPINION, BUT IS, IS THAT SOMETHING, ARE THE DYNAMICS HERE SUCH THAT IN YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT YOU'VE HAD IN, IN WORKING THROUGH THESE KINDS OF ISSUES, IS IT WORKABLE? I, I'M NOT CERTAIN. I CAN TELL YOU THAT A NOTICE OF FILING WENT OUT WHEN THIS CASE WAS FILED BACK IN, IN 2024. UM, AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE WENT OUT FOR, FOR NEIGHBORS. I, I THINK I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED, UM, GIVEN THE VOLUME OF, YOU KNOW, NOTICES THAT WENT OUT OVER 3,500 AS I INDICATED, UM, THE LEVEL OF PETITION, UH, PARTICIPATION ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT WAS, UH, VIRTUALLY, UH, MARINES MEETING THE NPA MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE FOLKS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED ON THIS CASE. SO, YOU KNOW, IF FOLKS HAVE CONCERNS, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS THAT'S STANDARD FOR THESE KINDS OF REZONINGS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE HAVE FOUR SPOTS LEFT FOR QUESTIONS, OTHERWISE, UM, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY, WE'RE READY FOR THAT. YEAH. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE APPLICANT REQUEST FOR A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 13TH. IS, OR IS IT? SORRY, I'M FEBRUARY 11TH. FEBRUARY 11TH. SECOND BY VICE CHAIR. DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? UM, YES. I I JUST WANT TO ECHO I THINK WHAT WAS SHARED, WHICH IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN EXTENSIVE NOTIFICATION PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS IN THE TOD, THERE HAS BEEN CAREFUL CONSIDERATIONS BY STAFF, AS WE SAW IN THE BACKUP PROVIDED BY THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE TOD ISSUES. UM, I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT IS HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND THAT THEY WILL BE DOING FULL ENGAGEMENT OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, AND THAT IF WE DID NEED ADDITIONAL TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE OPEN TO THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST PUT THIS BACK ON OUR AGENDA FOR THE FOLLOWING PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. ARE THEY SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSIONER COX? I'LL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR FEBRUARY 25TH. OKAY. I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND ON THAT. COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS YOUR SECOND. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT COMMISSIONER COX? YEAH, FIRST I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR, I DON'T, I DIDN'T USE THE WORD NEFARIOUS . I DON'T, I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING NEFARIOUS GOING ON. WHAT IS OBVIOUS IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A, A, A LOT OF NOTIFICATIONS THAT WENT OUT, UM, THIS WAS NOT AT ALL, UH, A LENGTHY PROCESS FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. AND WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT WITH THIS CASE. AND SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THE SECOND THING IS THAT WHAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FROM THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROPERTY IS NOT WHAT IS BEING REPRESENTED IN THIS ZONING CASE. AND SO WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IN SOME OF OUR PUBLIC FEEDBACK CONFUSION RELATED TO THE THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING WITH A BUNCH OF PARKING THAT IS ON THE APPLICANT'S WEBSITE FOR THIS PROPERTY VERSUS THIS CS DB 90 ZONING CASE THAT, UH, THE LETTERS FROM MR. THROWER TALKS ABOUT, UM, UH, AFFORDABLE UNITS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. AND STAFF TALKS ABOUT AFFORDABLE UNITS THERE. THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE. AND SO I THINK TWO WEEKS IS NOT ENOUGH IN ORDER TO ENGAGE THIS MANY PEOPLE, AND WE SHOULD PROVIDE THE TIME, UH, THAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST OUR VICE CHAIR CHAIR, I'LL JUST, UM, QUICKLY SAY THAT I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER MAXWELL WAS SAYING. I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH DOING A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT SINCE WE SORT OF HAVE A BACK AND FORTH WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT OF COURSE, WE AS IS ALWAYS THE WILL OF THE BODY, WE CAN COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND IF WE FEEL LIKE THE WORK HAS NOT BEEN DONE OR IF THERE'S NEED FOR MORE SPACE AND TIME FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ENGAGE WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT, WE CAN OF COURSE DO THAT. SO AT THIS POINT, I'D RATHER JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEP WITHIN THE SPHERE OF THAT TWO WEEKS AND THEN, UH, RETURN BACK. AND IF THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE TIME, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GRANT THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU, CHAIR SPEAKING FOR, I'LL ACTUALLY SPEAK FOR THIS ONE. I THINK THE, UM, THE FOUR WEEK REQUESTS, NORMALLY I, I WOULD BE IN LINE WITH COMMISSIONERS, MAXWELL AND VICE CHAIRS ARE. UM, BUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A, A GREAT HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THE APPLICANTS AND, AND PUTTING IN, MAKING USE OF THE TIME TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AGREEABLE AND BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S HAD A LOT MORE CONVERSATION AND POTENTIALLY HAVE SUPPORT BEHIND IT. UM, AND I'M ALSO NOTING THAT, UM, AT OUR FEBRUARY 11TH MEETING, UM, [00:55:01] WE WILL BE HEARING SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO WE HAVE OUR JOINT COUNCIL AND, UH, PC MEETING AT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY, AND THEN THE ITEM IS COMING ON FEBRUARY, UM, 11TH. AND SO THAT MEETING POTENTIALLY IS, IS CROWDED. BUT, UM, I THINK MY, MY MAIN REASON FOR VOTING FOR THE FOUR WEEK IS, UM, THAT I FEEL REALLY GOOD THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT APPLICANT CAN, CAN MEET AND MAKE SOME PROGRESS, THOSE SPEAKING AGAINST SPEAKING. FOUR. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. THIS IS FOR THE MOTION TO POSTPONE TO FEBRUARY 25TH. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. THAT'S SIX. UM, THOSE AGAINST 1, 2, 3, 4. AND THEN COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. ABSTAIN. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO THAT'S SIX TO FOUR TO ONE. THAT MOTION FAILS. SO WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION OF POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 11TH. AND, UM, WHERE WE WERE IN SPEAKING WAS ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST THIS MOTION? SPEAKING FOUR CHAIR, CHAIR. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE? UH, SORRY, ONLINE OR TOTAL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION? ONLINE WE HAVE, WE HAVE 12 MEMBERS. 11. WE HAVE 11 TONIGHT. AND ONE, UH, EX OFFICIO AND ONE EX OFFICIO. WE'RE COMM WE'RE MISSING COMMISSIONER WOODSON ANDERSON. YEAH, SORRY. SORRY. YOU'RE CORRECT. YOU'RE CORRECT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. UM, LAST CALL FOR ANY SPEAKERS FOR OR AGAINST A COMMISSIONER? BARRE RAMIREZ. YOU'RE ON MUTE. UM, STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU. OH, . OH, . WELL, WE'LL COME BACK. ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST? CAN WE SKIDMORE, MR. DANIELLE? I'LL SPEAK FOR BRIEFLY. I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION MOVING THAN TO HAVE A, A, A HARD DEADLINE AND OF JUST MY EXPERIENCE IN PROJECT MANAGEMENT IS THAT IF WE PUSH IT OUT FOUR WEEKS, THEN THERE WON'T BE ANY INITIAL CONVERSATIONS UNTIL, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE THE FOUR WEEKS. SO, UM, I DON'T SEE ANY BENEFIT TO GOING BEYOND THE, UH, THE FEBRUARY 11TH DATE. ALRIGHT, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER BARRERA RAMIREZ, DID YOU GET YOUR SOUND FIGURED OUT? NO. OKAY. OTHER SPEAKERS FOR OR AGAINST, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. THIS IS FOR THE FEBRUARY 11TH POSTPONEMENT DATE, THOSE IN FAVOR. AND THEN AGAINST THREE, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OFF. OKAY, SO THAT MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO THREE WITH COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS OFF THE DAIS. UM, SO WE WILL SEE YOU BACK ON FEBRUARY 11TH. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, WITH THAT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. UM, SO WE WILL GO [WORKING GROUP/COMMITTEE UPDATES] INTO OUR, UM, BOARD'S, COMMITTEES, WORKING GROUP UPDATES, AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO I WILL START WITH CODES AND ORDINANCES, JOINT COMMITTEE. UM, WE DID NOT MEET THIS MONTH DUE TO LACK OF ITEMS, BUT WE'LL BE MEETING, UM, NEXT MONTH IN FEBRUARY. THE MOVING ON NUMBER 18, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE. WE DID NOT MEET THIS MONTH DUE TO A LACK OF ITEMS. AND WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE MEETING IN FEBRUARY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. THANKS. COMMISSIONER HAYNES, NUMBER 19 JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. OH, WE HAVE, UM, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS IS OFF. COMMISSIONER WOODS IS ABSENT THIS EVENING. COMMISSIONER. OH, COMMISSIONER PHILLIPS, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE? I DO. UM, JUST LOOKING AT MY NOTES. UM, SO WE MET LAST WEEK AND THE MEETING FOCUSED ON SUSTAINABLE BUILDING INITIATIVES INCLUDING OUTREACH FOR LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALISTS. AND, UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT A STUDY ON REFRIGERANT LEAKAGE AND THE SWITCH TO LOWER, LOWER GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIAL. UM, UH, REFRIGERANTS WAS DISCUSSED, [01:00:01] SO SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE TOOK WAS REACHING OUT TO THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY STAFF AND OTHER CITY STAFF TO GET FEEDBACK ON DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR WORKING GROUPS AND ALSO TO, UH, FORWARD THE EMAIL ABOUT THE FIRST STAKEHOLDER MEETING FOR THE SOLAR STANDARD OFFER PROGRAM EXPANSION, WHICH I THINK I TALKED ABOUT, UM, MAYBE A FEW MONTHS AGO. AND WE ARE GONNA PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE FOOD POLICY BOARD'S LAND ACQUISITION RECOMMENDATION BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE INTENT OF POTENTIALLY ADOPTING IT AS A JOINT RECOMMENDATION. SO THOSE WERE THE, UM, MAIN THINGS THAT WE DID IN THAT MEETING. THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. UM, NUMBER 20, SMALL AREA PLANNING, JOINT COMMITTEE. COMMISSIONER BARRE, RAMEZ OR HOWARD? OH, MAYBE JUST COMMISSIONER HOWARD, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE COMMISSIONER BARR RAMIREZ'S SOUND FIGURED OUT. YEAH, WE, I DON'T HAVE ANY. NO UPDATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NUMBER 21, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. UM, WE DID NOT MEET IN JANUARY, BUT WE WILL BE, UM, CONSIDERING SOME PUDS IN FEBRUARY. VERY EXCITING. NUMBER 22, THE CITY OF AUSTIN BUILDINGS WORKING GROUP CHAIR. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY UPDATE AT THIS TIME. NUMBER 23, THE OUTREACH AND PROCEDURES WORKING GROUP. IT'S COMMISSIONERS, COX HAYNES AND PHILLIPS. UH, NO, NO UPDATE. NO UPDATE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NUMBER 24, THIS IS THE 2024 TECHNICAL BUILDING CODE UPDATES WORKING GROUP. UH, GOOD NEWS THAT TOMORROW IS THE, UM, THE TECHNICAL CODES ARE BEING CONSIDERED BY A DIFFERENT BOARD AND COMMISSION AND WOULD WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ONCE THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN FINALIZED, WHICH WILL BE NEXT WEEK. GREAT. NUMBER 25, THE GOVERNANCE RULES AND PROCEDURES WORKING GROUP. UH, NO UPDATE. WE HAVE NOT MET SINCE, UH, THE LAST ONE. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONERS, THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED BY, UM, ELLA, UM, THAT IS A SURVEY. UM, I THINK IT HAS A DEADLINE ON IT, BUT IT IS TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE EXISTING, UM, COMMITTEES AND, AND, UM, BODIES UNDER COUNCIL. SO JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO ANSWER THAT. YES. COMMISSIONER COX, I WAS WONDERING, UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH ONCE I'M GONE, BUT, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT APPENDIX A. OF ALL THE PROPOSED CHANGES, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT WILL IMPACT THE PLANNING COMMISSION GREATLY. UM, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT SHOULD BE POTENTIALLY A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO, UM, COLLECTIVELY AS, AS A BODY PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IF WE FEEL THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. UM, IT'S JUST THERE'S A LOT OF COMMITTEE REMOVALS REMOVING ZONING FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, MOVING IT TO ZAP THERE. THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT, UH, WE, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD BE CONSIDERING. YES, THANK YOU. THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THERE. SO, UM, THAT'S A NICE SEGUE TO FUTURE [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA ITEMS. AND SO IF WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT, WE CAN GET THAT ON OUR LIST A SECOND BY, UM, VICE CHAIR. UM, OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? CHAIR, CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT AS WELL? I'M SORRY. I'M GONNA BE WALL AND TELLING COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND OTHER FOLKS, INCLUDING MYSELF IN THE GOVERNANCE RULES AND PROCEDURES WORKING GROUP, IF THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO BE MADE ON THIS SUBJECT BY THE BODY, MAYBE THAT WORKING GROUP, SINCE IT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED CAN LOOK AT THIS AND BRING SOMETHING BACK JUST SO WE CAN SUE DO SOME SORT OF DOUBLE-DIPPING HERE. SURE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT MAKES SENSE. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I KNOW IT TAKES AWAY THE WORK FROM THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE IS TRYING TO DO, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS CAN BE JUST LIKE A QUICK CHARGE AND WE CAN BRING BACK IF THERE'S INDEED A RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS BODY WISHES TO MAKE. GOOD SUGGESTION. OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? UH, I HAD ACTUALLY FLAGGED THIS AT THE DECEMBER MEETING AND I HAVE JUST FOLLOW UP, SENT A FOLLOW UP REQUEST TO STAFF, BUT I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT THE WWE, UM, UH, WILD WILDLIFE URBAN INTERFACE CHANGES ARE COMING TO COUNCIL. WE HAVE HEARD IN MARCH AND WE ARE REQUESTING A BRIEFING HERE AT PLANNING COMMISSION SINCE THAT WAS PART OF THE PROCESS IN THE LAST TIME. AND WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THAT AGAIN THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S NOT A NEW ONE THAT WAS ON THE LIST, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER. AND THEN VICE CHAIR, YOU HAD A THOUGHT. THANK YOU CHAIR. IF I, IF I CAN REQUEST AN ITEM, I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS IN OUR AGENDA MEETING. IF WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION EITHER AT OUR NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER, JUST LOOKING AT THE REGULAR SCHEDULE, PROBABLY IN A MONTH, LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT BRIEFING REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE AND A NUMBER OF CODE REQUESTS AND, UM, LONG RANGE PLANNING INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING FROM STAFF AS WELL. SO WE, I, I GUESS JUST TO LET COMMISSIONERS KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A MORE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF, UM, AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, BUT IT'S A PRETTY HEFTY [01:05:01] SET OF ITEMS AND AGENDAS THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS CAN LOOK AT IT ALL TOGETHER SO WE CAN SEE HOW TO BEST ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING. I'LL SECOND THAT ONE. UM, OTHER, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. SEEING NONE. UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR A QUICK MEETING THIS EVENING. I'LL ADJOURN US AT SEVEN 11. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. GOOD NIGHT Y'ALL. SO STRANGE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.