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YOU ARE WATCHING A MEETING OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR KIRK WATSON, MAYOR PRO, TIM VANESSA FUENTES, COUNCIL MEMBERS NATASHA HARPER, MADISON, JOSE VELAZQUEZ, CHIE, CHEETO, VELA, RYAN ALTER, CRYSTAL LANE, MIKE SIEGEL, PAIGE ELLIS, ZOE CADRE, MARK UCHIN.

INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY DEBRA THOMAS, CITY CLERK MYRNA RIOS, AND CITY MANAGER, TC BROAD N.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

I WILL

[Call to Order]

CALL TO ORDER AT 10:00 AM ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 30TH.

THE MEETING, UH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL.

WE ARE MEETING AT 3 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET, WHICH IS WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE LOCATED, UH, IN AUSTIN CITY HALL.

WE HAVE A QUORUM OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL PRESENT.

UM, I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH QUICKLY THE ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR THE DAY, AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN, UH, THAT ORDER.

UH, THE FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS IN A MOMENT, I WILL READ CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS INTO THE RECORD, AND THEN WE WILL GO TO

[Consent Agenda (Part 1 of 2)]

OUR 10 O'CLOCK, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.

WE WILL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT OR NEAR 10 30.

IT MAY BE A LITTLE AFTER BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE WILL RECESS THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND I WILL CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING OF THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

ONCE THAT BUSINESS IS COMPLETE, WE WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

TWO THAT I, I'M AWARE OF.

ITEM 72 AND ITEM 62, WE WILL TAKE THOSE ITEMS UP.

WE ALSO HAVE AS NON-CONSENT ITEMS PURSUANT TO OUR RULES.

UH, ITEMS COME FROM COUNCIL COMMITTEES.

THOSE ARE ITEMS 81, 82, 83, AND ONE 14.

WE WILL THEN HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, THOSE ARE ITEMS 85 THROUGH 92.

WE AT 12 O'CLOCK, WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN, AND THAT IS PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

WHAT I ANTICIPATE WILL HAPPEN IS WE WILL DO THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION 12 O'CLOCK TIME, CERTAIN THAT WILL BE COMPLETED AROUND 1230 TO 1235 AT, WE WILL RECESS AT THAT POINT UNTIL WE WILL SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AT THAT POINT.

BUT ABOUT ONE 10, UH, WE WILL HAVE LIVE MUSIC DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, TIME.

WE ALSO, AT TWO O'CLOCK, WILL COME BACK FOR OUR TIME, CERTAIN ON ZONING WITH THAT.

NOW LET ME READ CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM NUMBER 18 IS WITHDRAWN.

ITEM NUMBER 52 IS WITHDRAWN AND REPLACED WITH ADDENDUM ITEM NUMBER ONE 12.

ITEM 68, WITHDRAWN AND REPLACED WITH ADDENDUM ITEM NUMBER ONE 13.

ITEM 71 WITHDRAWN.

ITEM NUMBER 73 SHOULD RE READ, APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SUBMITTAL OF THE BERGSTROM SPUR TRAILS TO TRANSIT PROJECT AS A CANDIDATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.

DELETE THE WORDS, REBUILDING AMERICAN INFRASTRUCTURE WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND EQUITY, AND ADD THE WORDS BETTER, UTILIZING INVESTMENTS TO LEVERAGE DEVELOPMENT.

PARENTHESES, BUILD DISCRETIONARY GRANT PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

ITEM NUMBER 78 SHOULD ADD COUNCIL MEMBER PAGE ELLIS AS A SPONSOR.

ITEM NUMBER 80 SHOULD ADD COUNCIL MEMBER KRISTA LANE AND MAYOR PRO TEM VANESSA FUENTES AS SPONSORS.

ITEM NUMBER 85 SHOULD READ WHEN PUBLIC HEARINGS, HEARINGS ARE TAKEN UP.

THIS ITEM WILL BE POSTPONED TO MARCH 6TH, 2025.

ITEM NUMBER 86 SHOULD READ WHEN PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE TAKEN UP.

THIS ITEM WILL BE POSTPONED.

THE FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025.

ITEM NUMBER 92 SHOULD READ, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN APPEAL BY MARCUS SHAFTEL.

AND THEN DELETE THE, THE ADDITIONAL NAMES SO THAT IT READS AN APPEAL BY MARCUS SHAFTEL OF THE ZONING AND PLATTING COMMISSIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION.

AND THEN ON TO, TO THE END OF THAT, THOSE ARE THE ACTION ITEMS THAT HAVE CORRECTIONS.

AS I'VE INDICATED ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED OFF.

THE CONSENT AGENDA

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ARE ITEM 72 AND ITEM 62, AND WE WILL TAKE THOSE UP.

AS I'VE INDICATED MEMBERS, THOSE ARE ALL THE CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD.

SO THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE CONSENT SPEAKERS.

UH, BEFORE, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE THOSE ITEMS OTHER THAN 72 AND 62 THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED, THE NON-CONSENT ITEMS, 81, 82, 83, AND ONE 14, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THAT I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE CONSENT SPEAKERS.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT RELATE TO LEGAL SETTLEMENTS.

AND SO I WILL RECOGNIZE, UM, THE ACTING CITY ATTORNEY WITH REGARD TO THOSE TWO ITEMS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION BEFORE WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE HAVE ASSISTANT, EXCUSE ME, .

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WE HAVE ASSISTANT CITY ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY COMING TO DO THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR, MAYOR, PRO TEM.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, I'M ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY JEREMY THOMPSON.

I'M HERE TODAY TO RECOMMEND, UH, TWO SETTLEMENTS.

ON TWO OF THE AGENDA ITEMS YOU HAVE, UH, ITEMS 54 AND 56, TAKING THEM IN TURN.

ITEM 54, UH, ROBINSON VERSUS CITY OF AUSTIN.

WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE A PAYMENT OF A $100,000 TO SETTLE THE MICHAEL ROBINSON VERSUS CITY OF AUSTIN LAWSUIT.

UH, THIS SUIT RELATES TO A FEBRUARY, 2023 CAR ACCIDENT INVOLVING AN AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT VEHICLE WHERE MR. ROBINSON SEEKS PAYMENT FOR HIS INJURIES.

IN EXCHANGE FOR THE PAYMENT, PLAINTIFF, PLAINTIFF WILL, UH, RELEASE ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY FROM THE ACCIDENT, AND WILL ALSO DISMISS HIS LAWSUIT FILED IN THE DISTRICT COURT FOR TRAVIS COUNTY LAW DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDS THAT YOU APPROVE PAYMENT BASED ON THESE TERMS REGARDING ITEM 56, UH, MCGINNIS VERSUS CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE A PAYMENT OF $150,000 TO SETTLE WILLIAM MCGINNIS VERSUS CITY OF AUSTIN LAWSUIT.

THIS LAWSUIT RELATES TO A FEBRUARY, 2023 RESIDENTIAL FIRE WHERE MR. ROBINSON SEEKS PAYMENT FOR DAMAGE TO HIS PROPERTY ALLEGEDLY CAUSED BY THE ACTS OF AUSTIN ENERGY.

IN EXCHANGE FOR THE PAYMENT, PLAINTIFF WILL RELEASE ANY AND ALL CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY FROM THE INCIDENT AND WILL ALSO DISMISS HIS LAWSUIT FILED IN THE DISTRICT COURT FOR TRAVIS COUNTY.

THE LAW DEPARTMENT ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT YOU APPROVE PAYMENT BASED ON THESE TERMS. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBERS? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF LEGAL ON THE TWO ITEMS THAT WOULD BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO US NOW? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

THANK YOU AND, AND APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION MEMBERS.

ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 53 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WHEN, WHEN I TAKE A, A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AFTER WE'VE HEARD PUBLIC COMMENT, ITEM NUMBER 53 WILL THE, THE MOTION, THE CONSENT AGENDA MOTION WILL BE TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 53.

SO I, I WANT TO CALL THAT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION BEFORE WE START, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 53.

VERY GOOD.

WITH THAT, UH, I'LL TURN TO THE CITY CLERK.

WE WILL START HEARING FROM OUR, UH, PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THE FIRST SPEAKERS ARE FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ELIZABETH MCGREEVY, CRAIG NASER, AND THEN NICO WARD, WHO DOES HAVE TIME DONATION IS BOBBY LEVINSKY AND MONICA GUZMAN HERE.

I SEE MS. GUZMAN.

UM, AND I SEE MR. LEVINSKY NOW.

OKAY, THAT'LL BE FOR NICO.

SO AS COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS, ONE IS, AS SHE CALLS YOUR NAMES, PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE FRONT AND PICK ONE OF THESE, UH, SEATS HERE AT THE FRONT.

SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

WE, AND WE WANT TO BE COURTEOUS TO THOSE, UM, THAT ARE BEHIND YOU.

SO WE'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK.

SO PLEASE COME FORWARD SO THAT YOU'LL BE READY TO SPEAK, UH, ONCE YOU'RE, ONCE YOU HAVE A FREE MICROPHONE.

OH, WHAT ITEMS AM I SPEAKING ON? NUMBER FOUR, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

OKAY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, CRAIG NASER, UH, CONSERVATION CHAIR OF THE LONE STAR CHAPTER SIERRA CLUB.

UM, DOING SOMETHING ABOUT WILDFIRES IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO.

THE QUESTION IS DOING THE RIGHT THING.

I LIVED IN LOUISIANA AND THERE WAS A NATIONAL FORCE THERE, AND IT WAS AN ECOSYSTEM THAT BURNED AND THEY SUPPRESSED FIRE, AND THEY HAD HUGE PROBLEMS WITH THAT, WITH FIRE GOING THROUGH IT.

AND SO YOU HAD TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO BURN AND TO CLEAR AND TO DO THINGS THAT FIRE WOULD DO.

WHAT I AM HAVE FOUND OUT LIVING HERE AND TALKING TO A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE IS THE HILL COUNTRY WAS LARGELY FORESTED, AND IT DIDN'T BURN.

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IF IT BURNED, YOU WOULD SEE THESE DEAD BURNT TRUNKS OF BIG GIANT CEDARS EVERYWHERE BECAUSE FIRE WOULD COME THROUGH REGULARLY AND BURN IT.

YOU DON'T SEE THAT IN LOUISIANA.

YOU SAW LONGLEAF PINE THAT WOULD BURN, AND IT WOULDN'T KILL THEM.

IN FACT, THEY HAD TO BURN TO RELEASE THEIR SEEDS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SIMILAR LIKE THAT IN THE HILL COUNTRY.

SO NUMBER ONE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CALLING IN A SOMEONE FROM OREGON WHO'S A DIFFERENT FOREST SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF GOOD PEOPLE HERE IN TEXAS WHO ARE GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HILL COUNTRY FORESTS, AND WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE GET GOOD PEOPLE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE JUST GOING IN AND CLEARING AND PRESCRIBED BURNS AND ALL THAT, I DON'T THINK MAY BE THE BEST THING TO PREVENT FIRE.

SO IT REALLY HAS TO DO ABOUT SCIENCE.

WHAT'S THE BEST SCIENCE, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS? SO, UM, THAT'S MY OPINION ON ITEM FOUR.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M DISTRICT EIGHT.

UH, I AM ELIZABETH MCGREEVY, A NATURAL RESOURCES CONSULTANT AND E COLLEGES WITH MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH HILL COUNTRY LANDOWNERS.

I'M PROGRAM DIRECTOR OF THE NONPROFIT PROJECT BEDROCK OWNER OF LAND STEWARD TEXAS MANAGEMENT PLANTS, AND AUTHOR OF WANTED MOUNTAIN CEDARS DEAD AND ALIVE AGENDA FOR SUGGESTS PAIN, THE NORTHWEST PACIFIC RESEARCH STATION TO CONDUCT A WILDFIRE ASSESSMENT IN THE REGION.

THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

WHY WOULD YOU BRING IN A GROUP FROM OREGON TO CONDUCT A WILDFIRE ASSESSMENT ON THIS LIMESTONE FLASH, FLOOD PRONE REGION OF TEXAS? THAT'S LIKE HAVING, GETTING A RABBI TO SPEAK ABOUT CATHOLICISM INSTEAD OF A PRIEST.

THE THING IS, WE ALREADY HAVE A PRIEST IS DR. JOSEPH WHITE FROM BAYLOR UNIVERSITY.

IN 2009, THE CITY OF AUSTIN PAID HIS TEAM TO DEVELOP THE AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN THAT THE AUSTIN WILDFIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN USING EVER SINCE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT STUDY, WHITE HAS CONDUCTED MORE THAN A DOZEN FIRE AND UWI RESEARCH PROJECTS ON THE EDWARDS PLATEAU.

HE IS BETTER EQUIPPED AND QUALIFIED, AND HE'S LOCATED JUST UP THE ROAD, NOT 2000 MILES AWAY, PAY HIS TEAM TO UPDATE HIS STUDY INSTEAD OF PAYING A TEAM FROM THE WEST COAST.

BUT IF YOU'RE CONVINCED YOU NEED A GOVERNMENT TEAM, THEN USE, AT LEAST USE THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN RESEARCH STATION, WHICH IS IN COLORADO, AND THEY HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH OF THE REGION.

THANK YOU.

NICO HAS TIME DONATED.

SO SIX MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

I'M NICO HOWARD, UM, OF THE, UM, I'M NOT IN, IN, IN ANYONE'S DISTRICT, UM, BUT LIVE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, AS A SCIENTIST, I'VE WORKED FOR THREE DECADES TO STUDY GROUNDWATER FLOW, RECHARGE WATER QUALITY WORK TO IDENTIFY AND ACQUIRE SITES FOR CITY PRESERVATION.

AND I'VE BEEN AMAZED AT HOW MUCH THE LAND MANAGEMENT PRACTICE IS SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE RECHARGE AT BARTON SPRINGS, PROTECT OUR WATER SUPPLY, BUT THEY, THEY DON'T.

MY BIG CONCERN WITH ITEM THREE IS THE, UM, THE PATTERN OF HIRING A CONSULTANT WHO'S VERY PRO, UM, CLEARING TREES AND PRESCRIBED BURNS, UM, INSTEAD OF GETTING THE ACTUAL SCIENCE.

NOW, UM, THE STUDY THAT OF THIS SCOPE WAS ALREADY CONDUCTED IN 2009 BY BAYLOR UNIVERSITY.

IT FOUND THAT FOREST HAD A LOW WILDFIRE RISK, WHICH CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORICAL RECORD, UM, AND PERHAPS BECAUSE THE CITY'S INVESTED SO MUCH INTO CLEARING THAT THIS IS PROBLEMATIC, AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED A DIFFERENT STUDY.

UM, OTHER SCIENTIFIC STUDIES SHOW THAT TREE CLEARING AND PRESCRIBED BURNING SIMILARLY INCREASE WILDFIRE RISK IN THROUGH SOIL EROSION, THROUGH HEATING, INCREASING THE WIND SPEED DRYING, UM, JUST TO SOME OF THE RECENT HISTORIES OF CITY'S, UM, 20, UH, 2022 AUSTIN WATER, WATER QUALITY PROTECTION LAND PROPOSES CLEARING ABOUT 6,000 ACRES, BURNING 11,000 ACRES, MUCH OF WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN CLEARED IN THE LAST TWO DECADES IN THE 2023 PARKS, RECOMMENDED LAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AND CLIMATE VARIABILITY ANALYSES ANALYSIS PROPOSED CLEARING AND BURNING ACROSS ABOUT 12,000 ACRES OF PARKLAND.

UM, SO I SEE THIS, UM, STUDY IS A STEP FOR THE PROPOSED AUSTIN WATER TO, UM, START INITIATING THE SAME POTENTIALLY, UM, CLEARING AND BURNING OVER 14,000 ACRES OF BALCONES CANYONLAND

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PRESERVES, UM, MUCH OF OUR PEAK SUMMER TEMPERATURES, LACK OF RAINFALL, DIMINISHING WATER RESERVOIRS, AND SPRING FLOWS, AND EXTREME WEATHER, OR FUELED BY LOCAL DEFORESTATION.

UM, SO THIS, UH, MANAGEMENT PRACTICE OF CLEARING AND BURNING IS MAKING THINGS WORSE.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME AUSTIN WATER PURCHASED PRESERVED LAND TO PROTECT OUR WATER SUPPLY? SO RATHER THAN FOCUS ON TREES AS FUEL, WHY NOT WORK TO HARDEN HOMES, REDUCE IGNITION RISKS LIKE ARSON, CAMPFIRE CIGARETTES, FIREWORKS, UTILITY LINES, WELDING, UM, CONTINUE FUNDING AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT'S RAPID RESPONSE, UM, WORK ON BUILDING THE SOILS AND PRESERVING THE FOREST TO MAINTAIN THE WATER SUPPLY.

AND IF YOU'RE GONNA DO A STUDY, WHY NOT FOCUS ON A STUDY ON AIR AND WATER QUALITY BENEFITS OF FOREST, AS WELL AS THE TOXIC WATER AND AIR QUALITY CREATED BY PRESCRIBED BURNS? UM, A 2014 STUDY THAT WASN'T REFERENCED IN ANY OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT PLANS, THE CITY DID CALCULATED THAT IN TRAVIS AND HAYES COUNTY, ABOUT TWO TO FOUR TONS PER SQUARE KILOMETER OF CONTAMINANTS WERE REMOVED BY TREES, AND THAT 96% OF POLLUTION REMOVAL FROM TREES OCCURRED ON THE RURAL LANDS.

UM, SO WHY IS AUSTIN WATER AND PARK SO INVESTED IN PRESCRIBED BURNING AND TREE CLEARING WHEN THEY KNOW THAT BURNING PRODUCES HIGHLY TOXIC AIR IN WATER QUALITY? WHY DON'T CITY MANAGEMENT PLANS REVEAL THAT MERCURY EXOR ABSORBED BY THE SOIL OR LOST BY HEATED SOIL, BURNT VEGETATION AND SMOKE EMISSIONS? IN 2001, WILDFIRES CONTRIBUTED ABOUT 800 TONS PER YEAR OF AIRBORNE MERCURY.

25% OF ALL ANTHROPOGENIC SOURCES OF MERCURY ARE FROM WILDFIRES.

SO MANY STUDIES SHOW THE LOSS OF CARBON NITROGEN PHOSPHORUS FOLLOWING SLASH AND BURN, UM, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO TOXIC ALGAE DOWNSTREAM, AND WE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN HAVING THAT PROBLEM.

UM, BURNING DECREASES, THE RECHARGE INCREASES DOWNSTREAM FLOODING.

UM, WHY ISN'T THE THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF PRESCRIBED BURN EACH YEAR? AND TRAVIS AND HAYES COUNTY MONITOR THE STUDY.

IF IT'S THE CAUSE OF AUSTIN EXCEEDING EPAS, UH, LOWERED AIR QUALITY STANDARDS, THE EROSION THAT FOLLOWS E FOUR STATION UPSTREAM OF AUSTIN IS CAUSING ITS WATER SUPPLY RESERVOIRS TO FILL UP, WHICH IS A FACTOR FOR REDUCING WATER SUPPLY STORAGE.

AS I COMMENTED ON THE AUSTIN FORWARD PLAN, AUSTIN WATER'S FUTURE STRATEGY SEEMS TO ABANDON EARTH AND SEEMS TO DEWATER AQUIFERS FOR WATER SUPPLY, AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY.

IN 2000.

AUSTIN WATER ALSO PROPOSED AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY IN THE NORTHERN EDWARDS AQUIFER.

FORTUNATELY, THEY ABANDONED IT WHEN THEY DISCOVERED THAT I HAD BEEN TRACING AND THAT THE, TO SHOW THAT THE WATER WOULD JUST BE STORED THERE FOR DAYS OR WEEKS.

SO, UM, YOU, THERE'S SOME ALTERNATIVES.

THEY'RE PICKING, UM, THE US FOREST SERVICE FOR CONTRACTORS.

IF YOU WANT TO DO, VISIT THE STUDY AGAIN ONCE YOU PICK DR. JOSEPH, WE, BAYLOR, WHO DID THE FIRST STUDY.

UM, THERE'S OTHER GOOD RESEARCHERS, DR.

CHAD HANSON, DR. JACK COHEN OF MONTANA.

UM, DR.

LINDA MAYOR OF AUSTRALIA'S DONE EXCELLENT WORK AND, AND SHOWED THAT, UM, WILDFIRE RISK INCREASES WITH DEFORESTATION AND LOGGING, UM, IN SOME OF THE LARGEST LOCAL DEFORESTATION PRESCRIBED BURN EFFORTS IN THE LAST TWO DECADES AREN'T DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN AUSTIN, BUT WERE CONDUCTED BY AUSTIN WATER.

UM, PART OF THE, THE AIR QUALITY PROBLEM IS THAT, UM, THAT 40% OF THE, OF THE PARTICULATE MATTER, WHICH AUSTIN IS EXCEEDING EPA STANDARDS FOR US FROM FIRE SMOKE.

UM, THERE'S AN ANNUAL MORTALITY OF ABOUT A THOUSAND TO 28,000 PEOPLE PER YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES.

UH, DEPENDING ON WHICH STUDY YOU ARE LOOKING AT, YOU GET ASTHMA, RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS, LUNG CANCER, HEART MORBIDITY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

NEXT ITEM FOUR WILLIAM BUNCH, BRAD MASSING, ROY WHALEY, AND THEN JENNY GRAYSON.

IF YOUR NAME'S BEEN CALLED, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, BILL BUNCH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE, UM, TAXPAYER RESIDENT VOTER.

UM, PLEASE LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS YOU'VE BEEN HEARING SO FAR ALREADY.

UH, ELIZABETH MCGREEVY WROTE A BOOK ON THIS TOPIC.

DR. HOWARD IS ONE OF THE SCIENTISTS THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY RAN, UH, CHASED OFF.

UM, OTHERS ARE BEING SILENCED, WHO ARE SPEAKING THE REAL SCIENCE RATHER THAN THE JUNK SCIENCE THAT LEADS TO CUTTING TREES

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AND BURNING TREES.

WHEN OUR CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN CALLS FOR YOU, US TO BE GROWING TREES REFORESTING, OUR LANDSCAPE, UM, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO IN THIS ITEM IS GO HIRE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE FORESTERS, WHO COME FROM FORESTRY, MEANING CUTTING TREES DOWN.

THAT IS THEIR BIAS, THAT IS THEIR AGENDA.

AND IT'S, IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS TO YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO RIDE ON THE PANIC OF THE INCREDIBLY UNFORTUNATE FIRES HAPPENING IN LA AND DEMONSTRATING THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE, THE, THE COURSE YOU'RE EMBARKING ON HERE, AS YOU'VE JUST HEARD, WILL INCREASE FIRE RISKS, WILL HURT OUR WATERSHEDS, WILL REDUCE THE WATER THAT WE NEED TO BE INCREASING, REDUCE, RECHARGE, INCREASE SOIL EROSION.

BUT WHAT IT WILL DO IS PUT MORE MONEY IN THE POCKETS OF YOUR STAFF TO HIRE CONTRACTORS AND HIRE MORE STAFF TO CREATE AN IDEAL OF RANCH LAND THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR ENDANGERED SUPPOSED TO BE.

THANK YOU AUDI Y.

MY NAME IS ROY WHALEY.

I'M THE CONSERVATION CHAIR FOR THE LOCAL SIERRA CLUB.

UH, WELCOME TO YOUR INAUGURAL MEETING TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, I WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, NICO HOWARD, DR. HOWARD.

HE KNOWS SOME PRETTY GOOD STUFF.

UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA CORRECT HIM ON THE FEW THINGS HE GOT WRONG, , BUT, BUT, UH, YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO HIM.

FOR ME, IT'S A MORE PERSONAL THING BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN LOS ANGELES.

SHE HAS A HARD TIME TAKING HER DOG OUT FOR A WALK BECAUSE THE AIR QUALITY IS SO BAD, AND IT'S NOT TREES NECESSARILY THAT ARE BURNING IT'S BUILDINGS.

IT'S THE BUILDINGS.

THESE THINGS WEREN'T STARTED, AND THEY STILL DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THESE, THESE GOT STARTED.

THESE FIRES GOT STARTED, BUT BY HUMAN ERROR, A CIGARETTE BUTT THROWN OUT THE WINDOW ARE WORSE ARSON.

AND IF IT IS ARSON, THEN THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP A GUY WITH A GALLON OF GAS AND A BICK LIGHTER.

BUT AS MR. BUNCH JUST SAID, WE'RE BUSY PLANTING TREES, AND AS DR. HOWARD SAID, IT IMPACTS THE INFILTRATION OF OUR WATER.

AND AGAIN, IT'S 43.1% FULL IN LAKE TRAVIS TODAY.

THAT'S OUR WATER SUPPLY.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WATER IN EVERY DECISION.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU IF NOT TO SAY NO.

SO GO BACK AND BRING US MORE INFORMATION, MORE DETAILED INFORMATION, INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE WHO TRULY KNOW THE ISSUE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LAST TWO SPEAKERS ON ITEM FOUR ARE JENNY GRAYSON AND BRAD MASSING.

YOUR NAME'S BEEN CALLED.

PLEASE COME FORWARD.

OKAY, I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM NINE.

CRAIG NASER AND MR. NASER HAS TIME DONATED BY LINDA BAILEY.

LINDA, ARE YOU HERE? I SEE HER.

SO THAT'LL BE FOUR MINUTES, FOLLOWED BY WILLIAM BUNCH.

WHO HAS TIME DONATED BY BOBBY LEVINSKY AND MONICA GUZMAN.

I SEE MONICA BOBBY, ARE YOU HERE STILL? YES, THEY'RE HERE.

OKAY.

AND THEN BRAD MASSING, CRAIG NASER, LONE STAR CHAPTER SIERRA CLUB.

UH, I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN QUITE A WHILE, AND I MUST SAY I RARELY GO TO EVENTS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND MORE AND MORE OFTEN IT'S BECAUSE THESE EVENTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

PARKING IS EXPENSIVE, AND LIKE YOU'LL HAVE THESE EVENTS WHERE YOU HAVE TO BUY A DAY TICKET OR A WEEK TICKET TO EVEN GET IN TO SEE MAYBE A MOVIE YOU WANNA SEE.

AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT THERE BECAUSE THEY LET ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN FIRST WHO'VE PAID HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS, AND MAYBE YOU'LL GET TO SEE YOUR MOVIE OR WHATEVER.

MEANWHILE, WE HAVE, UH, A CLIMATE CHANGE PLAN THAT GOES UNFUNDED AND EVERY DAY OF EVERY SUMMER WHERE IT'S HOT AND WHERE THE RAIN STOPS.

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THAT AFFECTS ME PERSONALLY, CONSTANTLY.

SO I WOULD SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, WHY ARE WE SPENDING $600 MILLION TO REBUILD A FACILITY THAT'S ALREADY FUNCTIONAL, UH, WHEN WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK, IN MY OPINION, ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO THIS CITY AND TO THEIR SURVIVAL OF THE PLANET THAN AN EXPANDED CONVENTION CENTER.

SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA START DOING THINGS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IF WE KEEP DOING THINGS THE SAME, WE'VE DONE ALL THE TIME, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GET THE SAME PROBLEMS WE HAVE.

SO I, I REALLY DON'T WANNA USE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME HERE.

I THANK YOU FOR DONATING THE TIME, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S NOT RIGHT TO SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY ON A CONVENTION CENTER WHEN WE CAN'T AFFORD OUR CLIMATE PLAN INVESTMENT PLAN.

THANK YOU.

MORNING, UH, BILL BUNCH, SPEAKING AS AN INDIVIDUAL VOTER TAXPAYER AND, UH, FORMER MULTI-YEAR MEMBER OF YOUR TOURISM COMMISSION URGING YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS $600 MILLION OF, UH, A DOWN PAYMENT ON WHAT'S THE REPORTED TO BE A $1.6 BILLION CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT.

UM, THIS IS, UH, MOVING FORWARD ON THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

ONE, BEING ON CONSENT.

YOU SHOULD NEVER BE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT'S $600 MILLION ON CONSENT THAT DESERVES FURTHER ATTENTION.

UM, AND NORMALLY YOU MAKE A DOWN PAYMENT ON SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD INFORMATION.

AND THAT'S KINDA LIKE GETTING A LITTLE BIT PREGNANT.

UH, HERE YOU'RE GETTING A LOT PREGNANT.

UH, WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW ON THE CURRENT PLAN, WHAT YOU DO KNOW IS THAT THEY'RE TELLING US THAT RIGHT AFTER SOUTH BY, THEY'RE GONNA INITIATE THE DISH DEMOLITION OF OUR CURRENT PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL AND DECENT, UH, CONVENTION CENTER, UM, AND THAT THEN THEY'RE GONNA BUILD, UH, A NEW ONE.

UM, BUT YOU WERE PROMISED, UM, OF A DETAILED BRIEFING BY STAFF IN DECEMBER AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

YOU DIDN'T GET THAT.

THERE'S NO, THEY PROMISED THAT THERE WERE, OR THEY SAID THERE WERE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS FINISHED IN JULY.

NOBODY SEEN THAT HADN'T BEEN RELEASED.

THEY SAID THERE WAS GONNA BE A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS ON THE ACTUAL DESIGN THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED, AND YOU'RE GIVING THIS 1.6 BILLION FIGURE, BUT THERE'S NO FINANCIAL MODEL OF WHERE THE REVENUE'S COMING FROM AND WHAT'S THE REAL COST? WHAT IS 1.6 BILLION? DOES THAT INCLUDE THE INTEREST PAYMENTS AND DEBT FINANCING OVER 30 YEARS? ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT.

DOES IT INCLUDE, UH, YEAR AFTER YEAR OF MULTI TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN, UH, OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS? ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE TO $5 BILLION HERE.

UM, AND YOU'RE COMPLETELY BLIND AND NOT YOU'RE BLIND AND THE COMMUNITY'S BLIND.

THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A STUDY DONE TO SAY WE SHOULD EXPAND IT, UM, WAS PRE COVID BEFORE, UH, VIRTUAL CONVENTIONS AND BEFORE COMPANY AFTER COMPANY HAVE SAID THEY'RE NOT GONNA COMPLETELY ABANDON CONVENTIONS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA SEND FEWER PEOPLE TO FEWER CONVENTIONS.

THIS INDUSTRY HAS BEEN IN DECLINE SINCE PRE 2008, BUST.

MEANWHILE, A CITY AFTER CITY IS EXPANDING THEIR CONVENTION CENTERS.

UM, SO THE MISMATCH BETWEEN SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS OFF THE CHARTS TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY PEOPLE TO COME USE YOUR FACILITY.

UM, IT'S PUTTING ALMOST NO NEW PEOPLE IN HOTEL ROOMS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE HOTEL TAX IS SUPPOSED TO DO.

MEANWHILE, YOU'RE BASICALLY STEALING THE MONEY THAT BELONGS TO LIVE MUSIC, MUSICIANS, MUSIC VENUES, ARTS PARKS, LADY BIRD LAKE, BARTON SPRINGS, THOSE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY DO BRING VISITORS HERE, UM, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY BENEFIT THE FAIRMONT AND THE ULTRA LUXURY ULTRA RICH HOTELS THAT, THAT DO CAPTURE THE LITTLE TINY BIT OF BENEFIT FROM AN EXPANDED CONVENTION CENTER.

UM, MOST OF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.

YOU'RE BRAND NEW.

YOU AND, AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD YOU NEED TO PUT THIS ON HOLD AND GET SOME REAL INFORMATION.

GOING BACK A LITTLE FURTHER, THE LAST TIME WE EXPANDED THE CONVENTION CENTER, MAYOR WATSON SPONSORED A BALLOT ITEM AND IT WENT TO THE VOTERS.

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AND WE HAD A STUDY THAT TOLD US HOW MANY ROOM NIGHTS, HOW MUCH ATTENDANCE WE WERE GONNA GENERATE IF WE BUILT THE FACILITY.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE PROJECTIONS ENDED UP TELLING US DOUBLE WHAT WE ACTUALLY GOT.

SO NOW WE'RE GONNA ADD A ZERO FROM 140 MILLION EXPANSION TO ALLEGEDLY 1.6 BILLION.

IT'S GONNA BE THREE, AT LEAST, UM, NO ELECTION.

AND THEY'RE SAYING, OH, NOW YOU'LL GET THE ROOM NIGHTS AND ATTENDANCE THAT WE TOLD YOU YOU WERE GONNA GET WITH THE LAST ROUND.

DOUBLE WHAT WE'RE HAVING IT.

THEY NEVER DOUBLE.

BUT THESE VERY INCESTUOUS INSIDER CONSULTANTS SAY THE SAME THING EVERY SINGLE TIME TO EVERY CITY.

EXPAND, EXPAND, EXPAND.

AND THEIR PROJECTIONS NEVER, EVER COME TRUE.

WE'RE DYING.

THIS CITY'S DYING.

THERE'S LOST IN AUSTIN.

IF YOU HADN'T READ THE BOOK YET, THE HOMOGENIZATION, THE LACK OF AFFORDABILITY AND THE PURE LIP SERVICE THAT YOU'RE PAYING TO PROTECTING BARTON SPRINGS, OUR LAKE, OUR MUSICIANS, YOU KNOW, WE SAT, Y'ALL SAT AND FIDDLED YOUR THUMBS WHILE WE LOST LUCY IN DISGUISE THE ORIGINAL THREAD, GILLS THREAD, GILLS WORLD HEADQUARTERS.

WE COULD HAVE SAVED ALL OF THOSE CULTURAL TREASURES FOR WHAT'S BASICALLY A ROUNDING ERROR ON THIS EXPANSION.

THIS IS, THIS IS A DEAD BUSINESS MODEL.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE TOLD, OH, WELL, THE CONVENTION CENTER'S A LOSS LEADER.

IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE US MONEY, BUT HOW MUCH OF A LOSS IT DOESN'T ADD UP ANYMORE.

AND IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS, THIS DECISION WILL LIVE IN INFAMY AND YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RUN AWAY FROM IT.

IT'S GONNA BE THERE EVERY DAY, AND WE'RE GONNA DIG A GIANT BLACK HOLE AND BACK UP DUMP TRUCKS OF MONEY.

THANK YOU, MR. BUNCH.

YOU PUT AN R IP, THANK YOU MR. BUNCH ON TOP OF IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

LAST SPEAKERS FOR ITEM NINE, ROY WHALEY AND JENNY GRAYSON.

HOWDY, Y'ALL.

I'M STILL ROY WHALEY AND I'M STILL THE CONSERVATION CHAIR FOR THE LOCAL SIERRA CLUB.

UM, NOT TO BUILD TOO MUCH OFF OF WHAT MR. BUNCH SAID, BUT YEAH, I I, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME CAMPING IN MY LIFE AND BUILT A LOT OF CAMPFIRES, BUT NEVER WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE MATERIAL AROUND ME FOR THE FIRE, NEVER DUMPING MORE MONEY ONTO A, A MONEY FIRE.

AND AS MY FRIEND CRAIG NASER COSIER, UH, MENTIONED, THE CLIMATE, UH, PLAN IS STILL NOT FUNDED.

IT'S STILL NOT PUT INTO PLACE.

IT'S A LOT OF NICE WORDS, BUT THAT HAS A REAL IMPACT ON ALL OF AUSTIN.

I'M ALSO IN AN INDUSTRY THAT DEALS WITH THESE SORT OF ISSUES, REAL ESTATE, ET CETERA.

UM, AND THERE IS THE, THE CONVENTION CENTER IS SYSTEM IS DYING.

PEOPLE ARE USING ZOOM.

THERE IS A COMBINATION OF HEALTH REASONS AND MONEY.

REAL SIMPLY, THERE'S NO REASON TO TRAVEL TO HOBNOB WITH PEOPLE FROM BISMARCK, NORTH DAKOTA WHEN YOU CAN DO IT BY ZOOM.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON.

IT'S FUNDING THE THINGS THAT REALLY IMPACT OF ALL OF AUSTIN.

ALSO, THIS IS JUST ONE ITEM.

WHAT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH IH 35? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENORMOUS CONSTRUCTION THERE AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAVE ENORMOUS CONSTRUCTION HERE.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE ENORMOUS CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S NOT SOME ITEM IN A VACUUM.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.

I HATE TO SAY POSTPONE IT, BUT I DO AGREE THERE ARE SOME NEW PEOPLE ON THE DAES AND Y'ALL NEED TIME TO, TO TRY TO ABSORB THIS AND DIGEST IT IF IT'S DIGESTIBLE.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME FOR ITEM 10, CRAIG NASER, AND HE HAS TIME DONATED BY LINDA.

LINDA, YOU STILL HERE? OKAY, FOUR MINUTES.

AND THEN WILLIAM BUNCH WITH TIME DONATED BY BOBBY LAVINSKY AND MONICA GUZMAN.

ALL RIGHT.

FOLLOWED BY BRAD MASINGO.

CRAIG NASER, LONE STAR CHAPTER SIERRA CLUB.

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WELL, YOU'RE GONNA GET HAMMERED ABOUT THIS.

I, I APOLOGIZE IN A WAY, IN A WAY.

I DON'T, UH, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, I'M A LIFETIME MUSICIAN AND I HAVE LIVED IN AUSTIN, AND I'VE SEEN THE MUSICIANS DRIVEN OUT OF AUSTIN.

I TAUGHT AT AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR A YEAR, TAUGHT YOUNG MUSICIANS WHO CAME HERE, DIDN'T HAVE MUCH MONEY.

IT WAS FANTASTIC.

I LOVED THE TEACHING.

I LOVED THE STUDENTS.

DIDN'T MAKE MUCH MONEY, BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT JOB.

AND THEY'RE GONE.

NOW.

YOU WONDER WHY IS THAT HAPPENING? BIG CONVENTION CENTER, THIS, THAT, AND EVERYTHING.

WHAT'S HAPPENED IS EVERYTHING HAS GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE WHO YOU'RE RELYING ON TO BRING PEOPLE TO AUSTIN, THEY'RE, IT NOT ALL BOATS HAVE FLOATED.

SOME PEOPLE JUST GOT SUNK AND FELL OFF THE EDGE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A KID IN OHIO, SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, I WAS IN A REALLY GOOD ROCK BAND, OKAY? THE UNION STANDARD, AND WE WERE A UNION BAND.

WE HAD $67 AND 50 CENTS A GIG.

THAT'S IN 1969.

I COME TO AUSTIN AND I'M PLAYING, AND I HAVE A, I GOT A DOCTOR'S DEGREE.

I'M A LOT BETTER THAN I WAS THEN.

AND YOU'RE PLAYING AROUND AND YOU, THEY, THEY'LL PAY YOU $20.

I ACCOMPANIED AT UT, YOU KNOW, FOR DANCE CLASSES AND EVERYTHING WITH $7 AN HOUR.

AND WE JUST GOT ROLLED OFF.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN ARE GETTING ROLLED OFF.

AND THIS IS WHY THIS KIND OF MONEY EXPENDITURE IS WHY, BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR HOMELESS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR A CLIMATE INVESTMENT PLAN.

WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR PARKS.

I GO TO PARKS A LOT.

I LIKE GOOD PARKS, OKAY? AND WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY FOR PARKS ANYMORE.

SO WE GOT ALL THESE CONVENTION PEOPLE THAT ARE WE THE STATE, OKAY? I'LL BE UP AT THE STATE NEXT, UH, NEXT, UH, WEEK, COUPLE MONTHS WORKING WITH SIERRA CLUB TO TRY AND GET 'EM TO DO THINGS A LITTLE BETTER.

THEY COME DOWN ON US, THEY SAY, WE CAN'T SPEND MONEY.

WHAT CAN YOU DO? I I JUST QUESTION THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS KIND OF THING RIGHT NOW.

AND I WILL HOPE YOU'LL THINK ABOUT THAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO MY COMMENTS.

YOU SPEAK, YEAH, BILL BUNCH AGAIN.

UM, YEAH, $600 MILLION TO START ON THIS PROJECT WITHOUT ANY REAL DATA THAT YOU WERE PROMISED.

ALL OF YOU WERE PROMISED BY STAFF AND THE PUBLIC WAS PROMISED, UH, AGAIN, IS WOEFULLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC DEBT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT.

AND SO WE KNOW THE HOT TAX, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX IS A BIG PART OF IT.

UH, BUT HOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE HOT TAX IS BEING DEDICATED TO THIS PROJECT? DO Y'ALL KNOW? I'M GUESSING ALMOST NONE OF YOU KNOW, IF ANY, EVEN ONE OF YOU DOES.

UH, IT KEEPS TAKING A BIGGER BITE.

WHILE WHAT REALLY DRIVES TOURISM VISITORS HERE, WHAT BENEFITS THOSE OF US WHO LIVE HERE IS GETTING A SMALLER AND SMALLER SHARE, UM, WITH THE COLLAPSE IN DOWNTOWN REAL ESTATE, THAT'S NOT GONNA GO AWAY ANYTIME SOON.

ALMOST CERTAINLY, YOU'RE GONNA BE ASKED TO ADD IN AND DIVERT TAXES FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO FEED THIS BEAST.

UM, DO YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION? UM, WE'RE ALSO TOLD, OH, THIS IS GONNA BE CONENT CONVENTION CENTER 4.0.

IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE THIS DEAD ZONE FOR OUTSIDERS COMING TO BIG MEETINGS.

IT'S GONNA INCORPORATE THE COMMUNITY.

WELL, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE? ARE, ARE WE ACTUALLY BUILDING MORE VENUES IN INTO THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER AND HANDING OVER THE TICKETING AND MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL AND PROFITS YET AGAIN OF A PUBLIC ASSET TO LIVE NATION? TICKETMASTER? THAT'S A REAL QUESTION.

I'M NOT KIDDING.

ARE Y'ALL, IS ONE OF Y'ALL GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION BEFORE YOU COMMIT $600 MILLION TO THIS? I'M SERIOUS.

I GUESS THE ANSWER IS NO.

LET'S GO BACK A LITTLE BIT.

WHEN WE STARTED ON THIS PATH PRE COVID, WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS WE HAVE TO EXPAND THE CONVENTION CENTER TO THE WEST SO WE CAN ADD ON NEW STUFF SO WE CAN KEEP OPERATING THE CURRENT FACILITY.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT NEW PIECE, WE'D HAVE A SMALL NEW ONE.

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WE'D TEAR DOWN WHAT WE HAVE AND THEN ADD ON.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE HAVE A BIG ONE.

BECAUSE IF YOU CLOSE IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL DISASTER FOR SOUTH BY FOR DOWNTOWN.

AND WE COULDN'T AFFORD IT.

AND THEN LO AND BEHOLD, WE COULDN'T BUY THAT LAND TO THE WEST SIDE.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, ALL THOSE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE OVER AND OVER ABOUT HOW IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE, WERE JUST SOMEHOW FORGOTTEN.

AND NOW THAT'S THE COURSE WE'RE ON.

AND YOU'VE NEVER GOTTEN AN EXPER EXPLANATION.

THE COMMUNITY'S NOT EVER GOTTEN AN EXPLANATION.

HOW WAS IT IMPOSSIBLE THEN? BUT NOW IT'S LIKE, OF COURSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THEN WHAT WE WERE ALSO PROMISED, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER VELA, I DON'T SEE HIM HERE, AS Y'ALL WERE TOLD A MONTH AGO, WE WERE GONNA GO VERTICAL.

WE WOULD INCORPORATE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, A TOWER FOR HOTELS, CONDOS, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD GENERATE TAX REVENUE, HELP PAY FOR IT, AND EVEN PUT MONEY INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN NOW WE'RE TOLD, OH, SORRY, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

HOW MUCH OF A FINANCIAL HIT TO THIS PROJECT WAS LOSING THAT OPPORTUNITY? YOU WERE NEVER TOLD THAT Y'ALL, NOBODY EVEN ASKED THE QUESTION, HOW MUCH OF THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT WAS THAT INCORPORATED PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR? AND HOW ARE WE FILLING THAT BUDGET HOLE? I MEAN, THIS IS BLIND LEADING THE BLIND, AND IT'S PRETTY SICK.

WHAT IT REALLY IS, IS THE RICH FEEDING OFF OF YOU AND US, THESE ULTRA LUXURY HOTELS GETTING LITERALLY BILLIONS OF SUBSIDIES WHILE WE PAY LIP SERVICE FOR SUPPORTING THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, WHILE ALL OF OUR CULTURAL FACILITIES THAT ARE SPREAD AROUND THE CITY THAT AREN'T DOWNTOWN GET CRUMBS OR THEY GET NOTHING AND THEY SHUT DOWN AND WE LOSE THEM.

I GET IT.

WHY ZOE CADRE'S FOR THIS? IT'S HIS DISTRICT, IT'S DOWNTOWN.

BUT WHY ARE THE REST OF YOU SUPPORTING THIS? WHY ARE THE REST OF YOU NOT EVEN ASKING QUESTIONS? WHY ARE YOU THE REST OF YOU NOT SAYING, HEY, TIME OUT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO PUT 600 BUCKS ON THE LINE.

$600 MILLION ON THE LINE.

CAN ANY OF Y'ALL EVEN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? HAS MAYOR WATSON INTIMIDATED ALL OF YOU TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WON'T EVEN ASK A QUESTION IN PUBLIC OR VOTE NO IN PUBLIC OR POST ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COURTESY.

IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE INFORMATION AND IT'S NOT URGENT, IS THE NEXT MEETING LIKE TOO LONG OF A WAIT? DO WE GOTTA HAVE THE 600 MILLION IN OUR POCKETS TODAY FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LIVE WITH FOR 30 YEARS OF DEBT FINANCING? AND ONCE YOU DIG THAT BIG GIANT BLACK HOLE, YOU CAN'T DIG YOUR WAY OUT OF IT, PLEASE.

BRAD MASSING, ROY WHALEY, BRIAN ROGERS, AND THEN JENNY GRAYSON, Y'ALL.

BRAD MASSENGILL, UM, SOUTH AUSTIN CREEK ALLIANCE IN THE BIRD STREETS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD TO THE GREAT TESTIMONY Y'ALL BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS.

UH, $600 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY.

I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AND WITH THE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA BE GOING ON WITH THE RAIL AND THE, UH, CAP AND STITCH GOING ON WITH THAT, MAKING A BIG H OUT OF THAT CONSTRUCTION MESS, NOBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO GET AROUND TOWN.

UH, YOUR AVERAGE CITIZENS, THEY ALREADY AVOID THE, THE CIVIC CENTER AREA.

AND THIS IS GONNA MAKE IT MUCH WORSE FOR YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN.

THIS IS NOT REALLY SOMETHING ESPECIALLY YOUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

YOU NEED TO POSTPONE THIS AND PUT THIS UP FOR SOME MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION.

THANKS, ROY.

WHALE LEE, AUSTIN SIERRA CLUB.

UM, I'M GONNA SAVE MY VOICE AND SAVE YOUR EARS SINCE YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION ANYWAY.

YOU KNOW, MIGHT AS WELL NOT

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JUST STAND UP HERE AND TALK, BUT MR. BUNCH BROUGHT UP AN IMPORTANT THING.

ALL THE SPEAKERS HAVE BROUGHT UP AN IMPORTANT THING AND THAT Y'ALL, THERE ARE SO MANY NEW PEOPLE SITTING ON THE COUNCIL TODAY THAT NEED MORE TIME TO DIGEST THESE THINGS.

I HADN'T PLANNED ON BRINGING THOSE UP UNTIL LATER ON.

ITEM 92, YOU CAN POSTPONE THINGS.

A NEW MEMBER CAN ASK THAT THIS BE POSTPONED EXISTING MEMBERS.

RETURNING MEMBERS CAN ASK FOR IT TO BE POSTPONED, TO HAVE BETTER CONVERSATIONS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS THAT THIS BE POSTPONED WHEN WE GET TO ITEM, UH, 92, THAT GIFT POSTPONED SO THAT CONVERSATIONS CAN BE HAD.

I PARTICULARLY KNOW ON ITEM 92 THAT A HUGE PART OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE IS OPPOSED TO THIS MOVING THROUGH.

NOW, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A DROUGHT HERE IN, IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A DROUGHT FOR QUITE A WHILE IN CITY COUNCIL OF HAVING DISCUSSIONS OF Y'ALL HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PUBLIC, WITH Y'ALL ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKERS.

AND I THINK THAT'S A SHAME BECAUSE AS I SAY, THROUGH CONVERSATIONS, THAT'S HOW WE COME TO BETTER DECISIONS.

THAT'S HOW YOU HAVE A MORE ROUNDED BASIS FOR YOUR DECISIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR ON THIS.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

I KNOW IT'S SO EASY TO, LET ME JUST STAND HERE AND Y'ALL DO OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT ME.

IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T HERE THAT WANT TO SAY THIS.

THANK YOU MR. WHALEY.

OKAY.

BRIAN ROGERS, JENNY GRAYSON.

OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM 11.

WE HAVE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSTON ON THE LINE, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE ARE ALL EXTREMELY AWARE OF THE POLITICAL SHIFTS IN WASHINGTON DC AND IN THE STATE THAT MAY SLOW OR REVERSE COURSE UPON PROGRESS TOWARD RACIAL BALANCE IN ALL ASPECTS OF AMERICAN SOCIETY, INCLUDING ART AND PUBLIC SPACES.

DR.

YANCY IS A ONE OF A KIND ARTIST WHOSE WORK ELEVATES AND CELEBRATES AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE AND PRIDE.

THAT'S WHY YEARS AGO, THE CITY COMMISSIONED RISKS AND RHYTHMS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER AND COMMITTED TO KEEP DR.

YANCY'S MURAL AS A PERMANENT FIXTURE.

PLEASE ENSURE THAT HIS MURAL IS SAFELY REMOVED, PROPERLY STORED AND PROTECTED.

SO IT CAN BE, AGAIN, BE A PROMINENT PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED IN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, OF THE, OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH, ALLOWING THE DESTRUCTION OF A BLACK ARTIST MURAL WOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, AND THE OPINION OF MANY OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

VERY DISRESPECTFUL AND EMBARRASSING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AME SANKOFA.

UH, GOOD MORNING.

UH, MY NAME IS NYLA AME SANKOFA.

I AM ORIGINALLY FROM CHICAGO.

I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN SINCE 1989, AND WHEN I ARRIVED HERE, I HIT THE GROUND RUNNING TO STAND BESIDE AND EVEN LEAD INITIATIVES, UH, FOR BLACK ART AND CULTURE.

AND IT'S JUST REALLY INTERESTING TO ME THAT WE ARE HERE ONCE AGAIN, UM, DEFENDING, DEMANDING, UH, EXPECTING AND IMPLORING WITH THE CITY TO DO RIGHT BY, UM, THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND THE, ESPECIALLY THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THE BLACK ARTS COMMUNITY.

WE, UM, I AM, I'M DEFINITELY ASKING IMPLORING, INSISTING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL VOTE NO ON THE DE SESSIONING, THE ARTWORK THAT IS IN THE CONVENTION CENTER, ESPECIALLY RIFS AND RHYTHMS BY JOHN YANCY, THE PROFESSOR EMERITUS, UH, UT AND A NATIONALLY KNOWN, UH, VISUAL ARTIST, UH, MURALIST AND PAINTER AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WE, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TIME THE CITY IS EXPECTING THESE ARTISTS, ESPECIALLY JOHN

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AND UM, JJ PRYOR FOR DAMIEN PRYOR'S WORK TO FOOT THE BILL TO REMOVE THEIR WORK.

UM, THAT COULD COST IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO, UM, REMOVE, RECLAIM, AND, UH, RE UH, PRESERVE AND REMOVE THEIR WORK.

UM, OTHER CITIES HAVE DEES PROCESSES TO, UM, PUBLIC ART AND THE ONES THAT I'VE RESEARCHED SO FAR, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT MAJOR CITIES LIKE PHILADELPHIA AND AND SO ON.

UM, THE, THE LAST THING THEY WANNA DO IS DESTROY THE WORK.

JOHN.

THANK YOU.

JOHN YANCY, RUDOLPH GREEN, DONNA CARTER, GERARD KINNEY.

THIS IS FOR ITEM 11, STILL NOW.

GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, MY NAME IS JOHN YANCY, UH, AND I AM AGAINST, UH, OBVIOUSLY , THE RECOMMENDATION BEING PUT FORTH, UH, IN AGENDA ITEM 11.

UH, I AM THE ARTIST OF RISKS AND RHYTHMS. UH, ONE OF THE WORKS BEING RECOMMENDED, UH, TODAY FOR DX SESSION AND DESTRUCTION.

UH, I MOVED TO AUSTIN IN 1993 TO ACCEPT A POSITION, UH, ON THE FACTORY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ART AND ART HISTORY AT UT, AND I SERVED ON NUMEROUS CITY PANELS AND COMMITTEES, INCLUDING SERVING AS CHAIR OF ART AND PUBLIC PLACES FROM 1996 TO 2001.

UH, SHORTLY AFTER MOVING TO AUSTIN, I WAS COMMISSIONED, UH, TO CREATE AND INSTALL THE WORK TITLED RISKS AND RHYTHMS AT, AT THE THEN NEWLY BUILT CONVENTION CENTER WITH COLOR AND VIBRANT PRESENCE.

THIS WORK CELEBRATES THE MULTICULTURAL PHENOMENON OF THE VARIOUS GENRES OF TEXAS MUSIC.

FOR 30 YEARS, IT HAS GREETED MILLIONS OF THE ATTENDEES OF SO BY SOUTHWEST COUNTLESS CONFERENCE AND CONVENTIONS AND OTHER VISITORS TO OUR CITY, UH, OVER THOSE DECADES.

I'M HERE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THREE THINGS, PAUSE, ASSESS, AND PRESERVE.

I URGENTLY REQUEST THAT YOU PAUSE THE ACCESSION BECAUSE THE PO CURRENT POLICY IS OBSOLETE AND NOT APPLICABLE TO CURRENT REALITIES, IT STATES, IN THE CASE OF DEACCESSION, THE ARTIST CAN RECLAIM THE WORK AT HIS OR HER EXPENSE.

FOR THE MAJOR MONUMENTAL WORKS IN AUSTIN'S PUBLIC ART COLLECTION, THIS POLICY IS UNREALISTIC AND UNREASONABLE.

IN MOST CASES, ARTISTS CANNOT POSSIBLY AFFORD TO HIRE THE CONSERVATORS EXPERT CREWS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE TO RECLAIM THEIR WORK AS STATED IN THE OUTDATED POLICY.

HOWEVER, UH, AND MOREOVER, UH, IT IS VERY POSSIBLE, THE CURRENT DEACCESSION POLICY AND THE PROPOSED ACT OF DEACCESSION BEFORE YOU TODAY, UH, MAY BE IN VIOLATION OF THE FEDERAL VISUAL ARTIST PROTECTION ACT OF 1990, OR THE VARA ACT OF 1990.

UH, SECONDLY, I URGE THAT YOU A ASSESS, UH, BY FUNDING MORE THOROUGH ASSESSMENT OF THE DEINS INSTALLATION PROCESS.

THAT WAS TWO MINUTES.

YES, IT WAS.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEND MY, WE WE UNDER, BUT IY YOU, YOU HAVE GOOD, GOOD PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR POSITION IS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MORNING MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RUDY GREEN AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATION AND, UM, AGENDA ITEM, EXCUSE ME.

AGENDA ITEM 11.

I'M AN ATTORNEY AND LONGTIME RESIDENT OF AUSTIN.

AND, UH, DURING MY MORE THAN 40 YEARS OF INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, I'VE ADVISED NUMEROUS ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD OF A NUMBER OF ARTS MUSEUMS AND, UM, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

YOU MAY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT MY COMMITMENT TO PROMOTING THE VISUAL ARTS IN AUSTIN, UH, BY THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, CREATING A GALLERY IN THE NAME OF MYSELF AND MY WIFE, JOYCE CHRISTIAN, IS CALLED THE CHRISTIAN GREEN GALLERY.

FROM MY SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA, I KNOW THAT DEACCESSION AVOIDED BY A MUSEUM OR THE ART COLLECTING INSTITUTION CAN BE QUITE CONTROVERSIAL AND OFTEN GENERATED.

IT IS OFTEN GENERATED LEGAL CHALLENGES BECAUSE THESE INSTITUTIONS RELY ON MAINTAINING THE GOODWILL OF ARTISTS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITIES TO CARRY OUT THEIR COLLECTING MISSION.

THEY MUST ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF COLLECTION MANAGEMENT VERY CAREFULLY.

AS REGARDS THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, I THINK THAT THE CITY HAS, UM, THE CITY'S EFFORTS HAVE BEEN SORELY DEFICIENT.

THE HALF-HEARTED EFFORT AT PRESERVING IMPORTANT CULTURAL OB OBJECTS EMBODIED BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS AGENDA HAS RIGHTFULLY CREATED CONTROVERSY AND MUST BE REJECTED.

I MEAN, THERE ARE CERTAINLY CONTROVERSY WHEN YOU DEMAND THAT AN ARTIST WHO'S WORK IS IN THE CITY'S COLLECTION BEAR THE EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH MANAGING THE COLLECTION.

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WITH RESPECT TO PROFESSOR ANGIE'S WORK, THERE IS CONTROVERSY WHEN YOU SPEAK OF DESTROYING AN EMBLEM, UM, THAT REPRESENTS PROGRESS IN THE EYES OF HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.

THERE'S CONTROVERSY WHEN YOU SPEAK OF DESTROYING A MAJOR WORK OF ART BY A PROMINENT ARTIST, ARTS EDUCATOR AND COMMUNITY ICON AGAINST HIS WISHES, AND WITHOUT HIS CONSENT, YOU CAN QUELL THIS CONTROVERSY AND SHOW APPROPRIATE RESPECT FOR ART BY REJECTING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

PLEASE COME FORWARD.

GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MAYOR.

MY NAME IS DONNA CARTER, AND I'M AN ARCHITECT HERE IN AUSTIN.

I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT DRAFTED THE ORIGINAL A IPP ORDINANCE IN 1985.

AND AS AN ARCHITECT, I HAVE WORKED WITH A IPP SINCE ITS INCEPTION AND FAVORED ARTWORK THAT WAS A PART OF THE BUILDING.

PUBLIC ART IS MEANT TO ENDURE, TO BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR SHARED SPACES, NOT TO BE DISCARDED WHEN INCONVENIENT, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE DEACCESSIONING OF ANY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER ARTWORK, BUT PARTICULARLY RIFFS AND RHYTHMS MOSAIC.

DESPITE A DECADE OF REDEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS AND OVER A BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, THE FATE OF THESE PUBLIC WORKS WAS ADDRESSED LESS THAN A YEAR BEFORE SCHEDULED DEMOLITION, THE CITY IDENTIFIED FOUR PIECES.

THEY DEEMED NOT A CONSERVATOR, THEY DEEMED WERE NOT SALVAGEABLE.

THEY PROVIDED NO ASSESSMENT, COST, ESTIMATES, OR CONSERVATOR'S VIEW ON HOW THEY COULD BE SALVAGED ESSENTIAL STEPS IN ANY PRESERVATION EFFORT.

THIS LACK OF PLANNING CONTRADICTS THE VERY SPIRIT OF A PERMANENT CONNECTION.

AND THIS IS A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP.

AS ALL OF YOU ARE LOOKING DOWN, NOT PAYING ATTENTION, A FAILURE IN LEADERSHIP, THE CITY HAS PLACED AN UNFAIR BURDEN ON ITS ARTISTS REQUIRING THEM TO RECLAIM AND REMOVE THEIR WORK AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE BY MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

IT HAS NOT, THE RIFFS AND RHYTHMS HAS NOT BEEN APPRAISED OR EVALUATED BY EXPERTS FOR CONSERVATION.

WE DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH IT HAS APPRECIATED IN THE LAST 30 YEARS.

THIS IS A FAILURE OF STEWARDSHIP.

THE SITUATION, THE SITTING MUST HALT THIS DIS UM, CENTURY.

UH, IMMEDIATELY WE MUST ENGAGE A CONSERVATORY TO DEVELOP A REMOVAL PLAN AND INCORPORATE THAT REMOVAL INTO THE DECONSTRUCTION OF THIS CENTER.

AND THERE ARE PLACES THAT WILL TAKE THIS PIECE OF ART, INCLUDING THANK, THANK YOU GERARD KENNY, AND THEN ZENOBIA JOSEPH MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I'M GERARD KENNY, LIFELONG AUSTINITE ARCHITECT.

UH, I WANT TO, DONNA CARTER JUST SAID MOST OF THE THINGS I WAS PLANNING TO SAY, TO YOU, SO I DON'T, I WON'T TRY TO REPEAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT I TOO WAS INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL A IPP ORDINANCE AND, AND IT'S THE MODIFICATIONS TO IT.

AND THE INTENT WAS NEVER TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE A PIECE OF ART THAT BECOMES THE CITY'S COLLECTION THEN COULD BE DEMOLISHED WHEN A, WHEN THE BUILDING IT'S IN GETS DEMOLISHED, IT, IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THE ART, THAT THE, THAT THE, UH, BUDGET FOR THE DEMOLITION SHOULD INCLUDE PROTECTING AND SAVING THE, THE, UH, THE ART IN THAT PLACE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. NEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, MY COMMENTS, AS THEY ALWAYS ARE, ARE IN THE CONTEXT OF TITLE VI OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, WHICH PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION BASED ON RACE, COLOR, AND NATIONAL ORIGIN.

I JUST WANNA CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION.

MARCH 4TH, 2021, COUNSEL ACTUALLY PASSED A RESOLUTION APOLOGIZING TO BLACK AUSTINITES.

AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS RHAPSODY.

IT'S ONE OF THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED MURALS IN AUSTIN.

SAME ARTIST, MR. YANCY.

THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON TODAY.

SO I'M AGAINST THE DX SESSION.

I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE MARSHALING YARD IS THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER'S WAREHOUSE.

SO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE COULD ACTUALLY BE STORED THERE.

THAT IS, UNLESS

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OF COURSE YOU PLAN TO LEAVE THE HOMELESS PEOPLE THERE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE AS WELL, ART IN PUBLIC PLACES.

YOUR ORDINANCE FROM 1985 PERMITS 2% OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FOR ART AT PRESENT.

I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY $12 MILLION ALLOCATED.

IT SHOULD BE ABOUT $16 MILLION FOR THE $1.6 BILLION PROJECT.

AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE AS WELL, YOU SET A PRECEDENT AS IT RELATES TO THE MONIES THAT YOU GIVE TO BLACK INDIVIDUALS.

THERE WAS A $2.9 MILLION SOLE SOURCE NO BID CONTRACT GIVEN UNDER THE GUISE OF EQUITY TO JOYCE JAMES.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT IF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS LESS THAN THE $2.9 MILLION THAT YOU IN FACT STORED AT THE MARSHALING YARD, I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE AS WELL THAT THE LANGUAGE USED BY SUE LAMB, WHO IS YOUR EXPERT, WAS ARCHITECTURALLY INTEGRATED.

SO TO DATE, YOU ARE ACTUALLY PAYING 10 ARTISTS, $240,000.

THERE'S ABOUT $12 MILLION ALLOCATED.

SO MAYOR, I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM.

AND SPECIFICALLY I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU HAVE A MEETING AFTER, UH, ON OR ABOUT MARCH 25TH, WHICH IS AFTER SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, UM, IN THE LAST PAGE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT FOR ITEM 25, ELIZABETH MCCREEVY, KATHY MITCHELL, CRAIG NASER, IF YOUR NAME'S BEEN CALLED, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

MR. NASER, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND TALK.

HELLO, CRAIG NASER, UH, UH, LONE STAR CHAPTER SIERRA CLUB.

WE HAVE, UM, WE WERE DOWN HERE, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ABOUT, UM, THE PLAN, THE PART HAD FOR VEGETATIVE MANAGEMENT, AND WE DISAGREED WITH IT AND WE CONTINUED TO DISAGREE WITH IT.

AND SO WE OPPOSE PUTTING MONEY INTO A PLAN WITH WHICH WE DISAGREE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

NOW, I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.

WE RESTORED A, A, A, A LITTLE CREEK UP IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, NORTH STAR GREEN BELT WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION.

AND WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE WONDERING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, SNAKES, MOSQUITOES, THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS STUFF WHEN YOU PLANT PLANTS AND TREES.

AND WHAT WE DID IS WE PLANT A LOT MORE TREES.

AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS WILDFIRE SPREADS MORE RAPIDLY THROUGH GRASSLAND THAN IT DOES THROUGH DENSE FOREST.

UH, AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT MANAGEMENT, AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PART, PART MANAGEMENT AND A LOT OF ISSUES WITH WILD SPACES, BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED WEED EATERS, YOU DON'T NEED LAWNMOWERS.

YOU DON'T NEED CHAINSAWS IF YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE, MANAGE THE EARTH.

I MEAN, THE EARTH WAS MANAGED PRETTY WELL BEFORE WE GOT HERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, PRETTY WELL, PARTICULARLY ECOLOGICALLY.

NOW, IF WE HAD A SYSTEM LIKE CALIFORNIA WHERE FIRES WERE TRADITIONAL AND SPREAD THROUGH, TRADITIONALLY THEY BURNED EVERY COUPLE YEARS, THEN YOU'RE SITTING ON A POWDER KEG.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID AND THEY IGNORED IT AND THEY BUILT, AND IT'S ACTUALLY ALL THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, AS THINGS GET MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE, LET'S BUY MORE, LET'S DO MORE.

WHEREAS THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

IT'S CALLED ECOLOGY, IT'S CALLED ENVIRONMENTALISM, WHERE WE LOOK CLOSELY AT WHAT THE WORTH IS.

OKAY, SO I'M HERE BECAUSE I NOTICED SOMETHING, UH, ODD ABOUT THIS ITEM.

AND I AM AT THIS POINT EXTREMELY MINDFUL ABOUT THE FINANCIAL ISSUES THAT THE CITY WILL BE FACING IN THE COMING YEARS.

AND WHAT I NOTICED IS THAT THIS ITEM IS A CONTRACT AMOUNT OR MULTIPLE CONTRACT AMOUNTS FOR TWO YEARS NOT TO EXCEED $7,500,000.

AND ONLY 200,000 IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE IN THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT OPERATING BUDGET.

SO YOU WERE ABOUT TO APPROVE A PARTICULAR SET OF CONTRACTS FOR $7.5 MILLION, WHICH IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF A LOT OF MONEY.

AND YOU HAVE 200,000 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THIS SEEMS TO ME TO BE A STACKING

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THE DECK ON PARTICULAR PROJECTS AND PARTICULAR VENDORS IN FUTURE YEARS THAT HASN'T YET BEEN DISCUSSED AS A BUDGET ITEM.

I FULLY EXPECT THAT PARKS IS GOING TO BE FACING CUTS THIS COMING YEAR, AND THAT THE MONEY THAT WAS APPROPRIATED FOR PARK MAINTENANCE, THE MORE TRADITIONAL KINDS OF PARK MAINTENANCE THAT PEOPLE EXPECT, LIKE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO EMPTY THE TRASH BINS IN THE REGULARLY USED COMMUNITY PARKS, THAT THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL AGAIN.

SO I WANT YOU TO BE WATCHING THESE ITEMS VERY CAREFULLY.

IF WE ARE GOING TO ADMIT, COMMIT TODAY TO CONTRACTS COSTING $7.5 MILLION THAT YOU DO