* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] SO FOUR. AND [CALL MEETING TO ORDER] WE HAVE QUORUM. SO I'M CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER. UM, WHY DON'T WE START WITH WELCOMING AL, UM, AL'S OUR NEWEST MEMBER. DO YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF? UM, SURE. YEAH. AL BRADY. SO YOU TURN YOUR, UH, PUSH YOUR BUTTON ON YOUR MIC. MIGHT HAVE TO LEARN THE MICROPHONE, AND THEN JUST PULL IT A LITTLE CLOSER SO YOU CAN BREATHE. OKAY. HOW'S THAT? PERFECT. I'M AL BRADEN. I'M IN DISTRICT SEVEN WITH, UH, MIKE SIEGEL. AND, UH, JUST HONORED AND, AND TO BE HERE AND, AND FINALLY HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. SO, VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. I ALSO WANNA SHOUT OUT TO, TO RANDY CHAPMAN, WHO WAS HERE WORKING FOR LESLIE POOLE, THAT HE WAS ALWAYS, UH, VERY MINDFUL OF CONSUMER RATES AND ALL THAT. SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO FORWARD. AND THANK MIKE SIEGEL FOR, FOR THE APPOINTMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON FAYETTE ISSUES FOR A LONG TIME, AND, UH, HOPE WE CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS THERE. SO, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THIS AND I'LL, I'LL DO OUR VERY BEST TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE, COLLABORATIVE AND TRY TO MOVE US FORWARD. ALL RIGHT, THANKS. WELCOME. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR GENERAL COMMUNICATION? WE DO NOT. OKAY. THEN OUR NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. OH. CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL AND HAVE EVERYBODY SAY THAT THEY'RE HERE? YEAH. OKAY. UH, LET'S JUST GET ON THE DAVE TUTTLE. LOOKS LIKE HE'S TRYING TO GET OUT, BUT IT'S NOT ON YET. WE'LL COME BACK AROUND TO DAVE KABA WHITE. I'M HERE. IO NOT HERE. RO HERE. ONLINE? YEP. PRESENT. LAUREN? I'M HERE. CESAR. UH, HE IS GONNA BE AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. OKAY. JONATHAN? HERE. ALL RIGHT. AL HERE. CHRIS? HERE. CYRUS. OKAY. WE GOT YOU. IT SEEMED TO BE ON TWICE. I'M NOT SURE WHY , BUT I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M HERE IN MULTIPLE WAYS. AS LONG AS YOU ONLY VOTE ONCE. YEAH. YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT TWICE. AND JOSHUA PRESENT. OKAY. NOW FOR THE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES ] APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR FEBRUARY MEETING, HAS ANYBODY READ THEM? YEP. YEAH, SORRY. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. OKAY. CHRIS HAS MOVED APPROVAL. I'LL SECOND. AND JOSHUA HAS SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? EDITS? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. MINUTES ARE ADOPTED. THANKS. IS DAVE STILL HAVING TROUBLE? YEAH, BUT HE'S, HE HAS THE OLD LINK, SO I'M WRITING IT TO HIM, SO WE'LL GET HIM ON. OKAY. I'M GONNA JUST PAUSE OKAY. FOR A MOMENT THEN. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS QUESTIONS ON THE OTHER ITEMS. I GUESS MAYBE WHILE WE'RE KIND OF WAITING FOR DAVE, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OF THE ITEMS FROM THE RCAS THAT YOU WANT TO PULL FOR QUESTIONS, WE COULD START A LIST. OKAY. UH, MM-HMM . I HAD A QUESTION ON FIVE. FIVE. OKAY. UH, SIX AND NINE. FIVE. SIX AND NINE. OKAY. I THINK JUST A GENERAL QUESTION ON SOME OF THE EMINENT DOMAIN ONES, WHICH ARE, YEAH, 10, RIGHT? NINE, TEN NINE AND 10. EIGHT. OKAY. 8, 9, 10. [00:05:21] WHAT'S THAT? UH, DAVE. OH, HE'S ON. OKAY. CAN DAVE, WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING ALL THE PULLED ITEMS AND BY WHOM? YEAH, I WILL. UM, DAVE, FOR THE ROLE, CAN YOU JUST SAY PRESENT OR SOMETHING FAIR OR PRESENT? IT IS VERY GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME DAVE. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO, DAVE. UM, WE, UH, HAVE APPROVED THE MINUTES AND ARE NOW TAKING UP THE RCAS. UM, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE ALREADY PULLED FOR QUESTIONS. DID YOU HAVE ANY, ANY THAT YOU WANTED TO PULL FOR QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO WHAT I HAVE IS 5, 6, 8, 9, AND 10. UM, SOME OF THOSE MAY HAVE COMMON QUESTIONS, IT SOUNDS LIKE, BUT MAYBE WE CAN JUST [5. Recommend approval authorizing a contract for service updates and repairs at District Cooling Plant #2 for Austin Energy with Texas Airsystems, LLC d/b/a Texas Airsystems, in an amount not to exceed $3,209,924. Funding: $3,209,924 is available in Austin Energy’s Operating Budget. (Part 1 of 2) ] START AT THE TOP WITH FIVE. THIS IS ON THE DISTRICT COOLING PLANT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. KEN SNIPES, VICE PRESIDENT POWER PRODUCTION. GO AHEAD, AL. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, THIS MIGHT BE A NEWBIE QUESTION, BUT, UH, THE DISTRICT COOLING HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF ATTENTION LATELY, AND THIS ISN'T A CHALLENGE TO, TO FIXING IT UP, BUT MORE A QUESTION OF TRYING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND WHAT IT'S POTENTIALS ARE. UH, THIS APPEARS TO BE MAINTENANCE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND, UH, Y'ALL WERE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION TO RMC, I THINK NEXT MONTH ON THE DISTRICT COOLING. WOULD THAT BE APPLICABLE TO US ALSO AS A WAY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW THE AU THING OPERATES AND HOW IT FITS INTO OUR FUTURE AS STORAGE? WELL, I THINK THIS RCA A, THIS RCA IS ABOUT UPGRADING PLANT TWO. THE PLANT TWO'S BEEN IN SERVICE SINCE 2006. AND SO, UM, THIS IS CLEARLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST UPGRADING THAT. SURE. AS FAR AS THE OVERALL, UM, UM, DEC SYSTEM, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF, UH, ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS THAT HAS BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT MORE RECENTLY? YEAH, NO, I, I'M, I APPRECIATE THAT. I, I'M JUST TRYING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. IT WAS STORAGE BEFORE THERE WAS STORAGE, SO IT WAS VERY INNOVATIVE. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE IT FITS INTO THE OVERALL GENERATION MIX. AND MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S AN EDUCATIONAL THING, NOT A CHALLENGE TO THIS PARTICULAR ORDER. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION FROM THIS PARTICULAR, UM, ITEM MM-HMM . UM, SO THAT WOULD, UH, NOT BE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF, OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ITEM. OKAY. MAYBE WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO THAT IN OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. SO NUMBER SIX. YOU ALSO HAD A QUESTION ON AL. WAIT, SORRY, COULD I, UM, ON, ON THE NUMBER FIVE, SO IS THIS, IS THIS THE FAMOUS PAUL ROBBINS CHILLING STATION? WHICH ONE IS THIS? IS THIS THE DOWNTOWN ONE? NO, THIS IS DCP TWO. UM, THE PLANT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS PLANT ONE. OKAY. SO IS THIS THE ONE CONVENTION CENTER? NO, THAT'S, UH, THAT WOULD BE PLANT FOUR. OH, OKAY. WHERE IS THIS ONE LOCATED? ? UH, I'D HAVE TO GET YOU THE EXACT ADDRESS. UH, THE CROSS STREETS. OKAY. SOMEWHERE BUT SOMEWHERE CENTRAL? YES. OKAY. AND THEN AL, I WAS GONNA JUST MENTION ON THE GEN PLAN, UM, WE DID, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE AND I BELIEVE UPDATE THE GOAL ON CHILLING STATIONS AS, AS ONE OF THEIR RESOURCES TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS, UH, THAT OS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IN, UM, LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YES. UH, WE'VE GENERALLY APPROVED AND, AND WANTED IT TO GROW BIGGER. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT. , LET'S TAKE THAT UP LATER, BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE TOPIC LATER. UM, ARE YOU HERE TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER [6. Recommend approval authorizing amendments to two contracts for continued overhead distribution electrical services for Austin Energy with Linetec Services, LLC, and Renegade Group, LLC, to increase the amounts by $18,000,000 for revised total contract amounts not to exceed $54,000,000, divided between the contractors. Funding: $18,000,000 is available in Austin Energy’s Capital Budget. Funding for the remaining contract term is contingent upon available funding in future budgets. ] SIX? I AM. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, BROCK CARTER, VICE PRESIDENT, ELECTRIC SYSTEM AND FIELD OPERATIONS. AL, UH, TRYING TO GET A SENSE HERE, THIS, UH, HOW, HOW MUCH OF THE DISTRIBUTION MAINTENANCE IS DONE BY AUSTIN ENERGY CREWS VERSUS CONTRACT CREWS, AND IS THIS LIKE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION OR HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT? SO, I, I WOULD HAVE TO GET YOU [00:10:01] AN EXACT NUMBER ON WHAT PERCENTAGE WAS WHAT. MM-HMM . UH, AS FAR AS IS THIS FOR EMERGENCIES, IT, IT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR EMERGENCIES AS WELL AS, UH, MAINTENANCE FOR RESILIENCY PURPOSES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN WE HAD EIGHT, [Items 7 - 10 ] NINE, AND 10, AND I THINK MAYBE SEVEN, I'M GUESSING MIGHT ALSO BE IN THIS BUCKET. GOOD EVENING, C COMMISSIONERS. UH, DAVID, TOM CHEON, VICE PRESIDENT OF ELECTRIC SYSTEM ENGINEERING AND TECHNICAL SERVICES. JOSHUA? YEAH, JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. SO MAYBE, MAYBE SEVEN'S IN, THAT LOOKS LIKE SEVEN'S ONE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE, BUT, UH, EIGHT, NO, SIX, ONE WEEK, ONE WEEK OF PURCHASE. THREE OR GOING THROUGH IMMINENT DO OR TO, TO BEGIN IMMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. OKAY. I WAS JUST, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I WAS LIKE, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME MEMOS AND SOME THINGS COMING OUT AROUND SOME OF THE UNCERTAINTY AROUND THE CAP AND STITCH ISSUE ALTOGETHER. SO IT WAS LIKE, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT DOESN'T GO THROUGH? SURE. LIKE, DO WE STILL NEED THESE, DO WE STILL NEED TO DO THEM DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS? LIKE, OR IF, IF THE PEOPLE MAYBE DON'T WANT TO SELL, BUT WE GO THROUGH THE DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS, BUT THEN THE, THE CABIN STITCH PROGRAM DOESN'T HAPPEN. LIKE WHAT HAPPENS THEN? SURE. UM, SO, SO PART OF IT IS, UM, WE HAVE AN EXISTING EASEMENT RIGHT NOW THAT'S IN THE TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY MM-HMM . AND SO THEY'RE EXPANDING THE ROAD. AND SO PART OF THAT IS, UH, WE WERE REQUIRED TO RELOCATE, BUT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD THE RIGHT TO BE THERE, THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE THE NEW EASEMENT. SO WHILE WE'RE PHYSICALLY GOING OUT TO IT, THEY WILL BE REIMBURSING US FOR THIS EASEMENT. AND WE HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE BETWEEN AUSTIN ENERGY AND, AND UH, UH, TDOT. IS THAT TRUE FOR ALL OF THESE? YES, MA'AM. IT IS. SO IT'S NOT A TAKING OF ANYONE'S LIKE LAND OR ANYTHING? WELL, IT IS, IT IS, IT IS TAKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, BECAUSE WE PHYSICALLY HAVE TO, TO MOVE OUT. SURE. YEAH. UM, SO IT IS TAKING, BUT, UM, BUT YES, ALL, ALL OF THESE WILL BE REIMBURSED BY TXDOT. SO IS TXDOT THE ONE WHO OWNS THE LAND NOW THAT WE'RE, SORRY, I'M JUST CONFUSED. NO. OH, NO, SORRY. UH, SO AS FAR AS OUR, THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE'RE ALLOWED TO BE IN TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY WITH OR WITHOUT AN EASEMENT. BUT IF THEY EVER TELL US TO MOVE, WE HAVE TO MOVE, UH, AT OUR COST UNLESS WE HAVE IT DESIGNATED, UM, UH, EASEMENT, WHICH WE DO, WE ALREADY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE THERE. YEAH. AND SO, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW EXPANDING AND THEY'RE ASKING US TO MOVE, THEY HAVE TO BUY US AN EQUIVALENT EASEMENT, UH, ON THE EDGE OF THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NO, I, I, YEAH. SO I COULD SEE THAT IT WAS LIKE REIMBURSED IN THERE. I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS LIKE IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IMPACTS LIKE OUR ABILITY TO DO CAP AND STITCH, LIKE, UM, WHAT HAPPENS THEN IF, LIKE, I GUESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH A MINUTE DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS, IT MEANS THAT LIKE THE PEOPLE MAYBE NECESSARILY DON'T WANT TO SELL TO US. MAYBE I'M, I'M GETTING CONFUSED AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON. UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND IT. LIKE, SO LISA MARTIN AUSTIN, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, I, I, I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE ASKING A PROCESS QUESTION AND I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH, WITH CAPTAIN STITCH. AND, AND SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PART OF THE PROCESS AND, UM, I GUESS WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY THROUGH THE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDING, SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE WE NO LONGER HAVE TO RELOCATE THAT POLL. BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE COULD WE HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU TODAY. OKAY. AM I ANSWER, AM I UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION CORRECTLY? WELL, I THINK SO. I WAS JUST LIKE, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF, LIKE, IF WHOEVER OWNS THE LAND DOESN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SELL, BUT THEN IT, IT BECOMES, BUT WE GET IT, WE GET IT THROUGH A MINUTE DOMAIN, BUT THEN IT BECOMES CLEAR LATER THAT WE DON'T NEED IT. LIKE DOES IT, IS THERE A PROCESS WHERE IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE LIKE, AND, AND, AND IT'S A, DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER? WELL, WELL, HE IS COMING UP. I GUESS I'M KIND OF WONDERING, AND I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, LIKE, DO YOU NEED THIS? EVEN IF CAP AND STITCH DOESN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE THE EXPANSION'S HAPPENING EITHER WAY, RIGHT? OH, IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN THAT? MAYBE A WELL, RIGHT, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE HAVING TO MOVE THINGS AROUND EXPANSION. YEAH. BUT I THINK THAT THE EXPANSION IS HAPPENING WHETHER WE CAP AND STITCH IT OR NOT. MAY I'M JUST USING THE TERM CAP AND STITCH BECAUSE THAT'S A, A COOL NAME FOR THE HIGHWAY THING OR WHATEVER. BUT IF THAT, IF THAT, IF THAT'S HAPPENING ANYWAYS, THEN I WITHDRAW MY QUESTION. 'CAUSE THAT'S, I WAS JUST, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT I CAN SHARE IS FROM A STANDPOINT IS IF, IF SOME, IF FOR SOME REASON THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MOVE AT SOME POINT IN, YOU KNOW, TIME AND NOTHING HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, WE HAVEN'T MOVED IT'S ORIGINAL PLACE. THERE, THERE IS MECHANISMS TO, YOU KNOW, RETURN THAT BACK. THAT BEING SAID IS, ONCE IT'S PHYSICALLY LOCATED, THAT WILL BE THE NEW EASEMENT AND, AND MOVE BEFORE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. AND MAYBE I'M [00:15:01] JUST CONFUSED ON EXPANSION VERSUS THE STITCH AND WHAT'S MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT AT PLAY WITH THE FEDERAL BEDS. I, OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK, WELL AL YOU HAD ALSO FLAGGED NINE AND 10. WERE THESE, DID YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THEM? NOT A NINE AND 10. I HAD A, OH, QUESTION ON 1111. [11. Recommend approval authorizing an increase in authority to the previously approved interlocal agreement for construction projects involving jointly owned transmission infrastructure project between Austin Energy and the Lower Colorado River Authority and the Lower Colorado River Authority Transmission Services Corporation from an amount not to exceed $24,000,000 to an amount not to exceed $52,000,000. Funding: $52,000,000 is available in the Capital Budget of Austin Energy. ] OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY A NEWBIE QUESTION. IT'S, UH, TRANSMISSION IMPROVEMENTS WITH LCRA, UH, WHICH YOU DO ALL THE TIME. ARE, ARE THESE ANYTHING THAT GIVE US MORE CAPACITY OR IS THESE SIMPLY REQUIRED MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENTS? THIS, THESE PARTICULAR, UH, PROJECTS UNDER HERE. THIS, UM, IS NOT ABOUT, UH, INCREASING CAPACITY. IT'S STORM HARDENING COMING OUT OF URI AND MARA UHHUH. AND SO IT'S BASICALLY JUST REINFORCING THE TRANSMISSION POLES, UM, UH, THROUGH THAT THOROUGHFARE SO THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, WITHSTAND MORE WINDS AND ICE AND SO FORTH. ICE AND ALL THAT. OKAY. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON ITEMS TWO THROUGH 12? OKAY. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO TAKING THEM UP TOGETHER? I'M RECUSING MYSELF ON ITEM FIVE. OKAY. THEN LET'S [Items 2 - 4 & 6 - 12] TAKE UP ITEMS 2, 3, 4, AND THEN SIX THROUGH 12. AND WE'LL WAIT ON FIVE. SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ONES YOU JUST SAID. OKAY. THANKS CYRUS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SECOND CYRUS MOTION. ALL RIGHT. AND AL HAS SECONDED. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEMS, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, AND 12. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS, THOSE ARE APPROVED. NOW WE CAN TAKE [5. Recommend approval authorizing a contract for service updates and repairs at District Cooling Plant #2 for Austin Energy with Texas Airsystems, LLC d/b/a Texas Airsystems, in an amount not to exceed $3,209,924. Funding: $3,209,924 is available in Austin Energy’s Operating Budget. (Part 2 of 2) ] UP ITEM FIVE. I MOVE APPROVAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. I SECOND. AND WAS THAT RAUL SECONDING? WHO WAS THAT? DAVE. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. WITHOUT A VOICE. YEAH, THE VOLUME'S ALSO A LITTLE LOW TODAY. UM, OKAY. WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. ANY ABSTENTIONS? OH, YOU'RE RECUSING. MM-HMM . THAT'S IT. SORRY. SO WE'VE GOT, UH, THAT ITEM FIVE, PASSING WITH ONE MEMBER RECUSING. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE [13. Staff briefing on Austin Energy’s Solar Program Portfolio by Tim Harvey, Manager of Customer Renewable Solutions.] TIM HERE TO DO OUR STAFF BRIEFING ON THE SOLAR PROGRAMS? WELCOME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. RICHARD GENESEE, VICE PRESIDENT OF CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS. BEFORE TIM GETS UP AND DELIVERS HIS PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A VERY BRIEF CONTEXT OF, UH, THE CRS PROGRAMS IN LIGHT OF THE WHOLE CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS PORTFOLIO. SO THE CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS PORTFOLIO CONSISTS OF 37, UH, PROGRAMS ACROSS EVERY SECTOR, UH, THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, LOW INCOME, ET CETERA. UH, TIM'S PORTFOLIO SITS SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, DEMAND RESPONSE OR ENERGY EFFICIENCY SERVICES, UH, PORTFOLIO OF PROGRAMS AND THE GREEN BUILDING, UH, AND, UH, EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES, UH, PORTION OF THE PORTFOLIO, WHICH INCLUDES ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND, UM, ELECTRIFICATION PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S REALLY IT. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT CONTEXT. SO AS YOU'RE LISTENING TO HIM TALK ABOUT THE CRS PORTFOLIO, YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE IT SITS IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. THANKS, RICHARD. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. MY NAME'S TIM HARVEY. I'M THE CUSTOMER RENEWABLE SOLUTIONS MANAGER. UH, SLIDE PLEASE. SO TODAY I'M GOING TO BE GOING OVER, UM, THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER OUR CUSTOMERS FOR, UH, SOLAR AND RENEWABLE ENERGY. UM, NEXT SLIDE. NEXT FIRST AND OLDEST IS OUR, UH, GREEN CHOICE PROGRAM. IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2001. UM, GREEN CHOICE [00:20:01] IS CURRENTLY A WIND PROGRAM. UM, AND, AND IT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL CUSTOMERS. UM, PARTICULARLY HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESS OFFERINGS. UH, SO WE ALLOW, OR WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF GREEN CHOICE BUSINESS OFFERINGS, DEPENDING ON THE COMMITMENT LEVEL OF THE BUSINESS. IT, IT RANGES FROM ANYWHERE FROM BASICALLY NO COMMITMENT THEY'RE IN. THEY CAN GET OUT AT ANY TIME, A YEAR LONG COMMITMENT, AND THEN A FIVE YEAR COMMITMENT. AND THE OFFERING CHANGES A BIT, UM, DEPENDING ON THAT. BUT, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER CAN GREEN UP ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR ENERGY TO BLOCKS OF ENERGY IN A HUNDRED KILOWATT HOUR BLOCKS. UM, AND THEN ALL OF THAT ENERGY IS, ARE, IS, UM, TRACKED BY GREEN E AND CERTIFIED TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, MAKING ANY FALSE CLAIMS OR DOUBLE COUNTING. UM, FOR, FOR BUSINESSES, THESE CAN MEET THEIR LEAD ACCREDITATIONS AND GREEN BUILDING CREDITS, UM, RATINGS. SO, UM, A LOT OF TIMES BUSINESSES WILL PARTICIPATE TO, UM, GET THOSE POINTS. ADVANCE TWO SLIDES PLEASE. AND JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, UM, EACH ONE OF THESE PROGRAM SLIDES HAS A FOLLOW UP SLIDE BEHIND IT THAT HAS ALL OF THE PROGRAM DETAILS. I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO DETAIL HERE, BUT IT'S FOR YOUR REVIEW. UH, TWO SLIDES, PLEASE. OH, SORRY, YOU ALREADY DID THAT. I DIDN'T SEE IT. . OH YEAH. SO GREEN CHOICES ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. UM, AND RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS CAN PARTICIPATE AT, UM, THREE QUARTERS OF A PENNY, UH, PREMIUM PER KILOWATT HOUR, WHICH IS ROUGHLY AROUND $7 AND 50 CENTS A MONTH. AND AGAIN, THIS GREENS 100% OF CUSTOMER OF RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER ENERGY. TWO SLIDES. UM, SO ACTUALLY GO BACK ONE, I THINK. UH, YEAH. SO, UM, WE ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM AS ANOTHER SUBSCRIPTION MODEL PROGRAM FOR AUSTIN ENERGY. SO COMMUNITY SOLAR IS TIED TO LOCAL SOLAR PROJECTS ON THE DISTRIBUTION GRID, OR, UM, AT LEAST IN THE AUSTIN ENERGY LOAD ZONE. UM, THE PROGRAM HAS, UH, IS SPLIT IN HALF. SO HALF OF IT IS DEDICATED TO LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS WHO CAN PARTICIPATE AT NO COST AND GET GREEN ENERGY. UM, AND THE OTHER HALF PARTICIPATE AT A PREMIUM, AT LEAST TO START WITH. UM, FOR ALL OF THE PARTICIP ARE PARTICIPATING CUSTOMERS CURRENTLY, UM, THEY ARE, UM, SINCE THEY'VE LOCKED IN THEIR PRICES FROM THE DATE OF PARTICIPATION, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO HEDGE. SO NOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAYING LESS THAN THAN EVERYONE ELSE. UM, BUT THEY DID PAY A PREMIUM TO BEGIN WITH AT LEAST. UM, THOSE ARE TIED TO, UM, LOCKED IN PRICED, UM, PORTFOLIO PROJECTS CURRENTLY. UH, AND AS WE'RE USING THE STANDARD OFFER PROGRAM TO INCREASE THAT PORTFOLIO, OUR OFFERING FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR, UM, PROBABLY WILL BE CHANGING SOME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO WE'LL BE HAVING STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS TO, UM, GET TO THE NEW OFFERING ON THAT. UH, LET'S GO NEXT SLIDE. AND, UM, MYSELF AND VALERIE PAXTON MANAGE THESE PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE HAVE SAM MCCLENDON AS THE COORDINATOR FOR THOSE. UH, NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. SO SPEAKING OF SOLAR STANDARD OFFER, UM, THIS IS ALL PRETTY FRESH FOR EVERYBODY PROBABLY, BUT, UM, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE RELEASED, UM, RECENTLY IN, IN MID-JANUARY. UH, THE SOLAR STANDARD OFFER PROGRAM HAS GOTTEN OFF TO A REALLY GOOD START. IT, UM, CURRENTLY HAS 20 APPLICATIONS FOR NINE MEGAWATTS. IT'S, UM, SO THE, THE PRODUCTION FROM THAT PROGRAM WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM AND ALLOW US TO EXPAND THAT. AND, UH, THAT THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM HAS BEEN FULLY SUBSCRIBED PRETTY MUCH SINCE DAY ONE. UH, SO THIS WILL HELP US TO, UM, EXPAND THAT PROGRAM, GET MORE SUBSCRIBERS THERE. UM, AND, AND ANOTHER THING THAT THE STANDARD OFFER DOES IS IT HELPS TO, UM, GET PAST A SPLIT INCENTIVE MODEL. SO IF YOU HAVE LIKE A STRIP MALL, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WITH, WITH THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, [00:25:01] NOT BEING AN OCCUPANT OF THE BUILDING OR HOLDING AN ACCOUNT FOR THE BUILDING, THAT OWNER CAN GO OUT, UM, TO A THIRD PARTY, UH, GET A PROJECT DEVELOPED ON THEIR ROOF AND START GETTING INCOME FROM, UM, THAT SOLAR PROJECT. AND AUSTIN ENERGY WILL PAY THE THIRD PARTY OR THE OWNER IF THEY HAPPEN TO OWN THE SOLAR ARRAY, UM, DIRECTLY SO THAT THERE ISN'T A SPLIT INCENTIVE THERE WHERE THE BENEFITS ARE GOING TO THE TENANTS AND THE, THE PERSON WHO INVESTS IN THE SYSTEM DOESN'T HAVE THAT DIRECT PAYBACK INCENTIVE. SO, UM, THIS HAS ALREADY, UM, PROVEN OUT A BIT, AND, UM, WE'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. WE THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM TO GROW THIS PROGRAM, AND SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THESE PROJECTS UNDERWAY. UM, NEXT SLIDE. NEXT, NEXT SLIDE. SO WE OFFER, UH, INCENTIVES FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, AND THESE COME IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT FLAVORS. SO A PERFORMANCE BASED INCENTIVE IS AN INCENTIVE THAT'S PAID OUT OVER FIVE YEARS, AND IT'S BASED ON THE ACTUAL PRODUCTION OF THE PV SYSTEM. UM, AND THEN THAT, UM, SHOWS UP ON THE BILL AS A CREDIT THAT DOES HAVE CASH VALUE ALONGSIDE THE VALUE OF SOLAR CREDIT. SO, UM, THIS HELPS TO INFLUENCE ADOPTION FOR LARGE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ESPECIALLY. AND THEN WE HAVE A CAPACITY BASED INCENTIVE. SO THE CAP, THE CAPACITY BASED INCENTIVE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S ALL, UM, AN UPFRONT PAYMENT TO THE CUSTOMER. CAPACITY BASED INCENTIVES ARE, UM, ELIGIBLE FOR NON-PROFITS AND SMALL BUSINESSES TO, TO UTILIZE. AND, UM, BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE'RE ANTICIPATING A RECORD YEAR IN COMMERCIAL, UM, JUST PROBABLY INSTALLING MORE THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS OR SO. SO, UM, LOTS OF ACTIVITY IN THIS SPACE RIGHT NOW. NEXT SLIDE. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE OFFER INCENTIVES FOR MULTIFAMILY, UH, BUSINESSES, AND WE HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OPTIONS THERE. SO A MULTIFAMILY CAN BE, UM, METERED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. SOME OF THEM ARE MASTER METERED, SOME OF THEM HAVE INDIVIDUAL METERS. UH, FOR EACH TENANT. FOR MULTIFAMILY, WE ALLOW, UM, AN INTERCONNECTION TO BE CITED AT THE UTILITY SIDE OF THE METER, AND WE CAN DO WHAT'S CALLED SHARED SOLAR. AND THAT'S WHERE WE TAKE THAT GENERATION. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIX DIFFERENT MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS WITH SIX DIFFERENT ARRAYS AND SIX INTERCONNECTIONS. WE WOULD TAKE ALL THOSE, ALL THAT GENERATION AND AGGREGATE IT, AND THEN DISAGGREGATE IT AMONGST THE TENANTS SO WE CAN ACTUALLY ALLOCATE A, A PORTION OF THE PRODUCTION TO EACH TENANT BILL. UM, SO THIS HELPS, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR, UM, CERTAIN NONPROFITS AND, AND PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN HUD. UM, WE, WE ALSO, WE HAVE INCENTIVES, UM, UPFRONT AND, OR, SORRY, CAPACITY BASED INCENTIVES FOR MULTIFAMILY AS WELL. AND, UM, , YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR MULTI FOR FOR THIS. WE HAVE SEEN, UM, YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED, BUT WE HAVE SEEN A SHARED SOLAR PROJECT COME THROUGH. IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE HAD ONE, BUT WE'VE SEEN ONE COME THROUGH RECENTLY AND WE HAVE ANOTHER FOUR LINED UP BEHIND IT, SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT PROGRAM STARTING TO TAKE OFF TOO. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. AND WE HAVE INCENTIVES FOR HOMEOWNERS, UM, CURRENTLY THAT IS, UM, BEHIND A SOLAR EDUCATION COURSE. SO THE SOLAR EDUCATION COURSE HELPS THE HOMEOWNER TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS, UM, WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PURCHASING PROCESS, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF SHADING ISSUES AND ORIENTATION, HOW THAT AFFECTS PRODUCTION. UM, GETTING MULTIPLE BIDS, YOU KNOW, COMPARING QUOTES, THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ALL IN THE, UH, CUSTOMER EDUCATION PROGRAM. QUESTIONS THAT THEY CAN ASK THAT THEY SHOULD ASK THEIR CONTRACTOR TO KIND OF HELP THEM EVALUATE, UM, CONTRACTORS ADVISING THEM TO GET MULTIPLE BIDS, ET CETERA. UM, SO AFTER THEY GO THROUGH THAT COURSE, THEY TAKE A VERY SMALL SHORT QUIZ THAT JUST KIND OF HITS THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT, UH, LEARNING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE RETAINED [00:30:01] IT AND THEN THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR $2,500 INCENTIVE. UM, AND ALSO THEY'LL GET THE VALUE OF SOLAR FOR ALL THEIR PRODUCTION MOVING FORWARD. UM, NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. SO AGAIN, UM, VAL AND MYSELF MANAGE THESE PROGRAMS, AND ATHENA IS THE COORDINATING SUPPORT ON THAT ONE. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO, UM, AND THEN UP AND COMING, UH, IS ONE OF OUR NEW PROGRAMS, SOLAR FOR ALL. UM, AND THIS IS THE 30 CLOSE TO $32 MILLION GRANT THAT WE, UM, HAVE WON FROM THE EPA. UM, THAT PROGRAM LOOKS TO INSTALL 18 MEGAWATTS OF SOLAR, 30 MEGAWATTS OF BATTERIES. THAT'S 40 MEGAWATT HOURS, UM, ON 2,500 RESIDENTIAL HOSTS, UH, 50 COMMERCIAL HOSTS. AND THEN IT WILL SERVE 3000 LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS TO RECEIVE 20% BILL SAVINGS FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS. NEXT SLIDE. HEY, TIM, UM, I, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS, BUT CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON, YOU KNOW, HA HAS THE MONEY BEEN DISPERSED TO THE, DOES HARRIS COUNTY HAVE ACCESS TO MONEY? DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE MONEY? WHERE ARE WE ON THAT ISSUE OF THE, OF MONEY FROM THE, UM, IRA BEING FROZEN BY THE NEW ADMINISTRATION? LIKE WHAT MM-HMM . DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? YEAH, SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE HISTORY. THERE WAS A EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WAS INTERPRETED TO SAY THAT IT WOULD, UH, STOP THE FUNDING. UM, SO THEY DID THAT. THEY, THEY HALTED FUNDING. WE DID NOT HAVE ACCESS FOR A LITTLE WHILE. UM, AND THEN, UM, DO FOR VARIOUS REASONS, THEY HAVE ALLOWED ACCESS ONCE MORE. WE DO NOT HAVE THIS MONEY SITTING IN A PROTECTED AREA WHERE, WHERE IT CAN'T BE DRAWN BACK. UM, THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS WE SPEND MONEY, UM, THEN WE GO FOR TO THE FEDS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. AND THE TOOL THAT WE USE TO GET THAT REIMBURSEMENT IS BACK ONLINE, AND WE ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT CLAIMS. SO WE'LL BE KEEPING OUR EYE ON THIS VERY CLOSELY. UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS COULD CHANGE, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE MEASURED APPROACHES, BUT WE ARE CON ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS. WE ARE, WE HAVE PRIORITIZED COMPLYING WITH THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, AT EVERY TURN SO THAT NO ONE CAN SAY THAT WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. UM, AND WE'RE SO FAR SO GOOD. I WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL CONTINUE ON, BUT WE DO SEE IT AS A POTENTIAL RISK. THANKS. MM-HMM . I GOT A QUESTION. UM, SO THIS IS A $32 MILLION GRANT. UM, HOW OFTEN IT, HOW OFTEN DO WE BILL ? LIKE IS IT BASED ON A DOLLAR VALUE OR A QUARTER OR LIKE HOW, LIKE, HOW, HOW LEVERAGED COULD WE POSSIBLY GET? I GUESS WE WILL, UM, BILL EVERY TIME THAT WE, WE GET BILLED. SO WE GET BILLED, WE PAY, AND THEN WE SEND IT STRAIGHT OVER TO GET REIMBURSED. GOOD. OKAY. SO IT'S A PRETTY CONTINUOUS PROCESS. IT IS, YES. AND, AND THAT WILL GO ON FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS OR SO. OKAY. SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CAPTURE THROUGH SOLAR FOR ALL, UM, ARE A, TO BROADEN SOLAR ACCESS. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE RESILIENCY BENEFITS, UM, COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP, LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLD SAVINGS, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS, AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. SO THE, THE FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE, GET THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, UM, PATH SOLIDIFIED. UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE WORKING, UM, WITH THE CITY, WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. UM, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED A, A CHANNEL THERE, THERE'S A NEW STARTUP WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM AT THE CITY THAT AUSTIN WATER AND AUSTIN ENERGY ARE FUNDING. AND THEN THESE GRANT FUNDS ARE GOING TO GO TO SUPPLEMENT THAT AS WELL. THAT'S OUR CURRENT PLAN. UM, SO, AND THEN SECONDLY, WE ARE, UM, STARTING TO DO, UM, STUDIES TO, [00:35:01] FOR TECHNICAL SERVICES, BASICALLY TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE VALUE OF BATTERIES BETTER, UM, AND FOR, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN CONFIGURATION DESIGNS POTENTIALLY. NEXT SLIDE. SO THE WAY THIS WILL WORK IS, UM, WE'LL IDENTIFY CUSTOMERS IN, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE NEW TERM, HANG ON. COMMUNITIES OF, UM, SOMETHING SHOOT COMMUNITIES WITH POVERTY. DON'T USE THE WRONG WORDS. I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY THE WRONG WORD. THAT'S RIGHT. UM, YEAH. SO CC COMMUNITIES OF, UM, SOMETHING POVERTY, IT'S IN THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO THEY, THEY USED TO BE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, UM, BUT WE DON'T CALL THEM THAT ANYMORE. UM, SO BASICALLY COMMUNITIES OF NEED, UM, IS WHERE THESE SYSTEMS WILL BE CITED. UM, ON, ON TARGETING LOW INCOME AND MEDICALLY VULNERABLE. UM, HOMES WILL PUT SOLAR AND BATTERIES ON THOSE HOMES, AND THEN ALL OF THE SOLAR WILL GO INTO A SPECIAL COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM. AND THE BATTERIES WILL OPERATE ON THE MARKET PRETTY MUCH DAILY. UM, IN THE EVENT OF A POWER FAILURE, THAT SOLAR AND BATTERY WILL BE THERE TO PROVIDE RESILIENCE TO THE HOST AT THE END OF THE 15 YEAR PERIOD, THE OWNERSHIP OF THE SOLAR AND THE BATTERY FLIP TO THE CUSTOMER AT NO COST TO THEM. SO THERE'S NEVER A COST TO THE CUSTOMER. UM, IF THERE ARE A LOW INCOME CUSTOMER, THEN THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM AND GET A 20% BILL DISCOUNT. IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN SOMEONE ELSE CAN. A, A LOW INCOME CUSTOMER THAT'S NOT A HOST CAN, UM, PARTICIPATE AND GET THAT 20% BILL DISCOUNT. UM, A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE RESILIENCE. ON THE RESILIENCE, UH, PART OF IT, CAN YOU TALK THROUGH KIND OF HOW THAT, HOW THAT WORKS? LIKE, IS, WOULD IT POWER THEIR WHOLE PLACE OR IS IT LIKE CERTAIN YEAH. CERTAIN SUB CIRCUITS OR REFRIGERATOR OR, YEAH. YEAH. IT, IT'LL BE SET UP TO BE A WHOLE HOME. UM, OKAY. BACK UP. BUT THEY WILL BE, THEY WILL NEED EDUCATION, AND THIS IS PART OF THE GRANT, AND WE'LL PROVIDE THIS TO THEM, BUT THEY'LL NEED EDUCATION TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY STILL NEED TO CONSERVE ENERGY, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S, THEIR ENERGY ISN'T LIMITLESS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LIMITED BY THE AMOUNT OF SOLAR PRODUCTION THAT THEY HAVE IN A DAY AND HOW MUCH IS STORED IN THE BATTERY. AND SO THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT, MONITOR THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, ADJUST THEIR HABITS ACCORDINGLY TO GET LONG-TERM AUTONOMY. BUT THAT'S PART OF THE EDUCATION THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THIS. UM, UH, THEN WE'VE GOT THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES INTO IT, UM, AND, AND LIFTING PEOPLE UP, UM, THROUGH, UM, THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, OF THIS WORKLOAD. AND, UM, SORRY. SO, AND, AND THIS WILL BE LAUNCHING IN 2026. THAT'S WHEN WE WILL START PUTTING THESE IN. TIM. AND THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, YOU, YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE TALKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND FUNDING SOMETHING THAT'S THERE AND WATERSHED, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? NO. WHAT, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE OTHER DEPARTMENT YOU MENTIONED? UM, WELL, IT'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. OKAY. UM, BUT THEY, THEY'RE KICKING UP A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. UM, IS THIS THE ONE THAT, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PIGGYBACKING ONTO. OKAY. IS THIS LIKE THE NEW, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED, THE THING, THE MAYOR'S INITIATIVE? IT IS, AND I'M FORGETTING, I'M FACING IT AT THE MOMENT TOO, LIKE TRYING INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S IT. THERE YOU GO. THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACADEMY. UM, SO IS THERE, I KNOW THERE'S LIKE A, A PIECE WITH A C, C AND THEN SOME OTHER PIECE THAT'S IN DEVELOPMENT ON ACTUAL TRAINING. IS SOMEBODY GONNA ACTUALLY BE TRAINING FOLKS IN SOLAR? THAT'S THE IDEA. WE'LL BE UP UPSKILLING. WHO IS THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE TAKING THE, A MASTER ELECTRICIAN TO THE NEXT LEVEL OR AN APPRENTICE TO THE NEXT LEVEL, OR SOMEONE WITH THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SKILLS CURRENTLY AND GETTING THEM INTO THE ENTRY LEVEL, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT UPSKILLING AND GETTING THEM INTO A JOB. GREAT. AND LONG TIME. WHO'S DOING THAT WORK? PARDON? WHO'S, WHO'S DOING THAT PIECE OF IT? WELL, THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACADEMY, BUT WELL, RIGHT, BUT I MEAN, THEY'RE CONTRACTING OUT WITH VARIOUS ENTITIES, RIGHT? I, I IMAGINE SO, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE PARTICULARS [00:40:01] ON THAT YET. SO YOU, YOU'RE JUST GONNA SEND THEM THE MONEY, OR ARE YOU ALL GONNA CO-CREATE THAT? WE'RE CO-CREATING AND WORKING WITH THEM. YEAH. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE INSTALLATIONS. ARE THOSE, WHAT'S THE, THE SELECTION CRITERIA FOR WHERE THESE INSTALLATIONS GO? DID DOES A HOMEOWNER HAVE TO APPLY? UM, NEXT SLIDE. YEAH. UM, SO THE, THE HOME IS GONNA HAVE TO BE SUITABLE FOR SOLAR, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND HERE YOU CAN SEE CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY. POVERTY, THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO CALL DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. THAT'S WHERE ALL THESE ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE LOCATED IN THOSE YELLOW ZONES. UM, AND THAT'S AS PER THE GRANT. UM, SO WE'LL IDENTIFY THE HOSTS IN THOSE ZONES, BUT AGAIN, IF LIKE, LET, LET'S SAY THE HOST IS A REC CENTER. UM, AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A FEW REC CENTERS THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, PART OF THE, THE RESILIENCY NETWORK. UM, AND SO THE, THE SOLAR FROM THE REC CENTER WILL GO INTO THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM THROUGH WHICH A LOW INCOME QUALIFIED SUBSCRIBER CAN GET THE 20% DISCOUNT AND GREEN ENERGY ON THEIR BILL. SO IT'S, SO THE WHOLE PROGRAM WILL ENABLE 3000 LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS TO GET 20% DISCOUNTS ON THEIR BILL. TIM, ARE YOU ALSO, YOU'RE ALSO PUTTING THEM ON RESIDENT ON HOUSES THOUGH, RIGHT? 2,500 HOUSES AND 50 COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. HOW ARE YOU SELECTING THOSE? UH, ARE YOU PRE-SCREENING FOR GOOD SOLAR OR JUST TAKING APPLICATIONS, OR HOW, HOW DOES THAT GONNA WORK? YEAH, WE'RE, IT'LL BE A PROCESS OF, OF BOTH. UM, WE'LL BE ENGAGING THE COMMUNITIES. UM, WE'LL HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT'S GONNA HAVE THEIR MARK THEIR OWN MARKETING PLANS. UM, WE'LL HAVE OUR MARKETING TO HELP DO THAT. UM, IT WILL BE SOMEWHAT OF AN APPLICATION PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PUT THE SOLAR IN THE SHADE ON A DILAPIDATED ROOF, FOR EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, SO THERE IS SOME CRITERIA THERE. UM, BUT YEAH. AND THEN I, I, I IMAGINE FROM THERE IT'S FIRST COME FIRST OR IS THERE ANY COORDINATION WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THOSE DISTRICTS? OR IS THAT NOT, WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT FAR YET. OKAY. BUT I IMAGINE THAT THERE WILL BE. YEAH. UM, TIM, I'M, I'M NOTICING A, A CHANGE HERE. I THINK LAST TIME I SAW THIS PRESENT OR THIS INFORMATION PRESENTED, IT WAS, I MORE LIKE THE DEFAULT PLAN WAS TO ONLY, UM, GO FOR HOST IN THOSE AREAS OF POVERTY. UM, BUT THE LOW INCOME, THE DOOR WAS OPEN FOR LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA. BUT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE, SO IT GOT CLOSED CLARIFICATION. UM, THE INSTALLATIONS HAVE TO GO IN A CONCENTRATED AREA OF POVERTY, BUT THE SUBSCRIPTIONS CAN BE INCOME QUALIFIED, SO THE CUSTOMERS RECEIVING 20% BILL DISCOUNTS FOR 15 YEARS CAN BE ANYWHERE. OKAY. BUT I ALSO SAW A CHANGE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT, OR MAYBE YOU JUST STATED IT, THAT YOU ARE GONNA TRY TO PUT ALL OF THESE EITHER ON MEDICALLY VULNERABLE OR LOW INCOME. SO WE ARE TARGETING WITHIN THE CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY, LOW INCOME, AND TO ARE IN MEDICALLY VULNERABLE. YES. YEAH. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE HOST. FOR THE HOST. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. THE, THE CONCERN THAT HAD, LIKE BEEN RAISED AT THE JSC WAS, YOU KNOW, WITH GENTRIFICATION, THERE'S PLENTY OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS. PROBABLY THEY DON'T NEED, THE INTENT OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO FOCUS ALL BENEFITS POSSIBLE TO LOW INCOME CUSTOMERS. TIM, THE, THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD RECEIVE 20% DISCOUNT ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE RECEIVING POWER FROM A COMMERCIAL OR COMMUNITY CENTER ROOF AS, AS OPPOSED TO THEIR OWN ROOF. IS THAT, IS THAT A POOL OF POWER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, SO THE, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. THE HOST, IF THEY'RE LOW INCOME, CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM THAT, THAT PROVIDES THE 20% DISCOUNT. ALRIGHT. BUT ANY CUSTOMER THAT'S LOW INCOME CAN APPLY TO THE COMMUNITY. SOLAR PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM THROUGH THIS. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME QUEUE MANAGEMENT AND, AND WHATNOT, BUT, UM, THAT'S HOW [00:45:01] IT WILL WORK. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEED, IF YOU'RE A HOST, YOU'RE NOT, I WOULD SAY YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEED THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET THE 20% BILL DISCOUNT. YOU GET IN THE LIST, YOU GET ON THE LIST FOR IT, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. WE WOULD TRY TO, WE WOULD TRY TO MAKE THAT, BUT LIKE, THERE'S TWO THINGS HAPPENING. THERE'S THE HOST AND THEN THERE'S PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM THAT GETS THE 20% DISCOUNT AND THE HOST GETS THE RESILIENCY BENEFIT. IF THEY'RE LOW INCOME, THEY CAN BE IN BOTH, BUT IT'S NOT GUARANTEED. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THEM FOR HAVING THIS PUT ON THEIR HOUSE. WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE GONNA GET IT. FIRST OF ALL, I FORGOT TO SAY THIS, BUT THEY'LL GET A $500 UPFRONT INCENTIVE JUST FOR HOSTING IT. AND THEN THEY ALSO GET THE RESILIENCY BENEFITS, AND THEY GET THE, AND THEY GET OWNERSHIP AFTER 15 YEARS. OH, OKAY. AND ALL OF THAT IS AT NO COST. SO EVERYBODY WINS. NEXT SLIDE. I THINK THAT'S IT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT LET'S FIRST ANYBODY WHO WAS ON THE SCREEN, 'CAUSE IT WAS HARD TO SEE. YOU DID, DID ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY. JOSHUA, IS THERE A, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT THAT ALL OF THE, ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE DEPLOYED? IS IT WITHIN THE FOUR YEAR? YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY FIVE YEARS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE GRANT, WHICH WAS SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. OH, OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. FIGURE OUT THAT WORKS. UM, BUT, SO LIKE IF, I DON'T KNOW, SHOULD WE HAVE A DISCUSS, LIKE IF THEY'RE, IF IF THEY COULDN'T FIND ENOUGH OF HOMES THAT HAD ROOFS THAT WERE SUITABLE, LIKE WOULD IT GO TO NON, NON LOW INCOME FOLKS IN THOSE AREAS THEN AS WELL? POTENTIALLY, BUT WE THINK WE'LL FIND ENOUGH. OKAY. I'LL JUST, I DON'T, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW, HOW, HOW MANY HOMES THERE WOULD BE WITH . WE WOULDN'T WANNA LEAVE ANY OF THE MONEY ON THE TABLE. RIGHT. YEAH. AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT A LOW INCOME HOST, IT PROVIDES LOW INCOME BENEFITS YEAH. AND RESILIENCY IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK IS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. YEAH. IF YOU ALL GET TO THAT POINT, LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THERE CAN BE DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE HOW TO PRIORITIZE? SO AT LEAST IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, LOWER INCOME OR, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND, AND ONE OUR INTENT IS TO APPROACH THE COMMUNITY, UM, WITH SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AND TRY TO TEASE THAT OUT UPFRONT, RIGHT. AND, UM, BRING ALL THAT POLICY UP FRONT, UM, AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS SO THAT EVERYBODY'S ON. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. I REMEMBER YOU SAYING BEFORE THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AS PART OF THIS. IS THAT STILL THE PLAN OR, YES. YEAH. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS OF ENGAGING THE COMMUNITIES. WE'LL HAVE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS. UM, WE ALSO ARE WORKING TO LINE UP AMBA COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS, UM, THAT CAN GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, AMAZING FACE OF AUSTIN ENERGY STARING AT THEM WHILE THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS. SO, UM, THEN THAT MAY SOLICIT SOME MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, UN UNABASHED FEEDBACK FOR US, SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, WHEN ARE THOSE MEETINGS SCHEDULED TO START? AND ARE THE AMBASSADORS GONNA BE PAID? THE AMBASSADORS WILL BE PAID, AND I, THOSE SHOULD START, UM, EARLY SUMMER. WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY YET, SO WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING YET. UM, SO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UM, WAS PASSED BY COUNSEL AND NOW IT HAS TO BE PASSED BY THE HARRIS COUNTY COMMISSIONS COURT, AND THAT HAPPENS, I BELIEVE, ON THE 27TH OF THIS MONTH. GREAT. AL, ONE QUESTION CIRCLING BACK TO THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY SOLAR AND STANDARD OFFER MM-HMM . WHICH IS A GREAT MARRIAGE, AND IF YOU CAN GET TO NINE MEGAWATTS, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ALMOST FOUR TIMES BIGGER PROGRAM. CAN YOU TALK, MIKE, CAN YOU TALK INTO THE MIC? HELLO, MIKE? UH, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR TIMEFRAME FOR GETTING THE NEW STANDARD OFFER COMMUNITY SOLAR, YOU KNOW, PRICING AND ALL THAT ANNOUNCED AND WORKED OUT AND, AND STARTING TO MARKET IT? YEAH, SO, UM, WE HAVE PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE NOW UNTIL THEY START PRODUCING. WE DON'T HAVE A PRODUCT, AND EVEN THEN WITH STILL A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE CAN START SELLING SUBSCRIPTIONS. UM, BUT IN THE INTERIM, UM, WE'LL HAVE MORE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS SET UP FOR THE RESIDENTIAL STANDARD OFFER. THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE TO START DISCUSSING THAT. MAYBE WE HAVE OUR OWN SEPARATE [00:50:01] STANDARD, UH, MEETINGS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SOLAR OFFERING. UM, BUT WE WILL GET INPUT ON THE, FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT NEEDS A DIFFERENT FORMAT BECAUSE THE, THE WAY THAT THE COSTS ARE HAPPENING WITHIN THE PROGRAM NOW WITH A NEW, THE NEW PORTFOLIO IS DIFFERENT. AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GONNA LOCK IN A PRICE AND THEN SOMEDAY IN THE FUTURE THAT'S GONNA HEDGE BECAUSE STANDARD OFFER DOESN'T LOCK IN A PRICE. IT ALWAYS TIES IT TO THE AVOIDED COSTS. SO WE NEED TO WORK ON OUR APPROACHES, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME IDEAS OUT THERE OF HOW TO DO THIS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL START TEASING THOSE OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO, TO GO BACK. YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR COSTS ARE GONNA BE THOUGH. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A COMMITTED STANDARD OFFER RATE, SO, SO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST YOU, THE RATE CAN CHANGE. RIGHT. SO IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF WHEN, WHEN DO YOU START GENERATING POWER THAT YOU COULD REALLY HOOK PEOPLE UP, BUT WE COULD THINK ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE SURE. KNOWING WHAT THE RATE WOULD, THE STARTING RATE WOULD BE, NOT THE FOREVER RATE, BUT THE FIRST COUPLE YEAR RATE. YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT BEHIND THE SCENES, UH, BUT WE'LL BRING IT TO STAKEHOLDERS SOON, BUT NOT TOO SOON. I ALSO HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THAT. WHAT'S THE CURRENT NUMBER OF INSTALLS AND CAPACITY IN THE 20, THERE'S 20 APPLICATIONS AND NINE MEGAWATTS IS THAT CURRENTLY? AND THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER AC INTEREST BACKING UP, BUT, BUT IT HASN'T, UM, MANIFESTED ITSELF IN APPLICATIONS YET. IS THAT THE DC NUMBER? NINE AC. OH, OKAY. SO SOME MORE MM-HMM . HAVE COME IN. AND HOW MANY COMPANIES ARE PARTICIPATING SO FAR, LIKE WITH PROJECTS, PARTICIPATING COMPANIES? WELL, NOT LIKE APPROVED PARTICIPATING, BUT HOW MANY, AMONGST THOSE 20 PROJECTS, HOW MANY COMPANIES, INSTALLATION COMPANIES OR COMPANIES THAT ARE LIKE HOSTS? HOW MANY HAVE A AGREEMENT WITH AUSTIN ENERGY? TWO. TWO. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE SUBCONTRACTING THOSE WOULD BE PARTICIPATING COMPANIES. TWO PARTICIPATING COMPANIES, RIGHT? THAT, YEAH. OKAY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE FIRST TWO TO THE TABLE. I I WOULD, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY TWO GOING INTO THE FUTURE, BUT YEAH. YEAH. UH, WHAT ARE THE TWO? I DON'T KNOW IF I'M A LIBERTY TO SAY THAT. OKAY. CAN YOU, AM I YOU'RE NOT SURE ON IT? OKAY. CAN YOU FOLLOW UP? YEAH. I MEAN, WE ALWAYS USE TO GET THAT KIND OF INFO. SO, UM, THAT ACTUALLY KIND OF LEADS ME TO A, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PBI. UM, I KNOW WE, UM, SUPPORTED Y'ALL NOT HAVING TO BRING THOSE FORWARD, UM, THROUGH US AND THROUGH COUNCIL, BUT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM STILL POSTED TO OUR, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY TO THERE'VE BEEN NONE TO BRING. YEAH. OKAY. I, I WAS HOPING THAT THERE HAD JUST BEEN A YEAH, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, PROJECTS PENDING RIGHT NOW THOUGH. OKAY. IF THAT HELPS. OKAY. CALL. ANY CONCERNS? YOU DID MENTION ON SHARED SOLAR, BUT I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THE NUMBERS. DID YOU SAY THERE WERE A FEW PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOW MOVED FORWARD RECENTLY OR? YEAH, WE, WE RECENTLY, UM, FI FINALIZED A HAKA PROJECT, UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE FOUR MORE LINED UP BEHIND IT. GREAT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST THOSE WILL COME IN, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN, ARE THOSE PRIVATE SECTOR, I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE ALL STILL, I NOT, UH, LOW INCOME, RESTRICTED UHHUH INCOME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TIM? GO AHEAD. THE, UH, THE SHARED, UH, MULTI-UNIT HOUSING THING, I, I KNOW IT WAS TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS AND IT WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE A BILLING. SO HAVE YOU AUTOMATED THE BILLING SYSTEM SOMEHOW TO, TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT? SO IT'S NOT A MANUAL PROCESS, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. NOW WE JUST HAVE TO SET UP THE ALLOCATIONS IN THE BILLING SYSTEM AND IT TAKES OVER FROM THERE. SO IF I'M A APARTMENT OWNER, I JUST GIVE YOU A LIST OF ALL MY ACCOUNTS AND YOU CONNECT THEM ALL UP. RIGHT. AND YOU CAN DESIGNATE HOW MUCH, WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU WANT TO GO TO DIFFERENT UNITS. LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT ON A SQUARE FOOTAGE BASIS, YOU COULD, OR IF YOU WANTED TO DO IT ON A PER BEDROOM BASIS, YOU COULD. SO WE'RE FLEXIBLE. ALRIGHT. WELL GOOD WORK. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . [00:55:01] THANK YOU TIM. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE [14. Discussion and action on the Electric Utility Commission’s priorities for the Fiscal Year 2025 2026 Budget. (Sponsors: White, Reed) ] JUST ONE MORE ITEM. UM, AND IT'S OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATION. UM, I AM SORRY THAT I DIDN'T SEND IT AROUND AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I DID WRITE UP ONE RECOMMENDATION. DOES ANYBODY ELSE, UM, HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE WE DELVE INTO THIS ONE? AND I DID YOU, UM, THE ONLY THING, UM, WELL I'M RAISING MY HAND. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS RAISING THEIR HAND. GO FOR IT, CYRUS. YEAH, SO, SO THE OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, AND I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST IS JUST, UM, IT'S MORE OF A, UH, DSD ISSUE WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE ENERGY CODE IS, UM, ENFORCED OR THERE'S INSPECTIONS AND I, I CAN'T REMEMBER, I'M SORRY, I'M LESS PREPARED THAN I WANTED TO BE. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST OR WHETHER WE'VE, UM, WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, DSD MORE NEEDS MORE SUPPORT JUST FOR THEIR, THEIR ROLE IN INSPECTION. I KNOW THERE'S A, THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN AUSTIN ENERGY AND DSD ON THE, ON THE CODES, BUT, UM, I DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT THAT'S VERY THOUGHTFUL THAT I'VE WRITTEN OUT THOUGHTFULLY. MORE JUST, I KNOW WE'VE ALWAYS RAISED THAT CONCERN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE RIGHT APPROACH WOULD BE. UH, 'CAUSE WE DON'T REALLY OPINE ON DSDS BUDGET. UM, BUT, BUT MAYBE BECAUSE YOU'RE IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION, YOU'RE BASICALLY ASKING FOR MORE PEOPLE IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE FOLKS IN GREEN BUILDING, MAYBE THAT CAN HELP WITH THAT ISSUE. BUT I, I'M JUST NOT SURE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FROM AUSTIN ENERGY, UH, HAS AN OPINION ON HOW, HOW WE, UM, COORDINATE BETWEEN DSD AND AUSTIN ENERGY AND HOW, HOW WE ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT BUILDINGS ARE MEETING THE, THE LATEST, WHATEVER THE, THE LATEST CODE IS. WELL, SI KNOW WE FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION AT THE RMC, BUT, UM, AND IT DID SORT OF CROSS MY MIND, LIKE, SHOULD I THROW THAT IN HERE TOO? UM, AND I WAS JUST KIND OF IN A HURRY AND, AND DIDN'T, AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT OUR BYLAWS, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE A MINUTE, UM, AND TAKE A PEEK AT THE BYLAWS AND SEE IF IT SEEMS BROAD ENOUGH THAT IT CAN HOLD THAT TOO. OKAY. WILL DO. UM, SO YEAH, THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS HERE BASICALLY JUST TO KIND OF MAKE THE POINT. UM, BUT CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS, I THINK AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, ENCOMPASSES TIM'S WORK AND HIS WHOLE TEAM AS WELL AS ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS AND GREEN BUILDING. AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS WE JUST KEEP KIND OF SENDING THEM MORE WORK. THE UPDATE TO THE RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN, I THINK CONTINUES THAT TREND OF, YOU KNOW, MORE EMPHASIS ON DEMAND SIDE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT IT DOES TAKE PEOPLE TO DO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS WE FREQUENTLY HEAR, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY CAN, BUT STAFF, UM, TIME AND CAPACITY IS, YOU KNOW, A BARRIER. SO, UM, IF WE COULD SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE AND I DID ON MINE. UH, YEAH, THERE'S WHO, WHO'S, YEAH, TO THE BOLD. THANKS. UM, I DID EDIT THAT TO INSTEAD OF SAYING SOLAR TEAM TO SAY, UH, ADDED TO THE CUSTOMER RENEWABLES SOLUTION TEAM AND THREE FTES TO A ADDED TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY SERVICES AND GREEN BUILDING TEAMS. I WASN'T SURE WHAT THE DIVISION REALLY SHOULD BE THERE ON THE LAST TWO, WHICH IS WHY I JUST SAID GIVE THREE BETWEEN THE TWO. UM, BUT THAT'S, IT'S A PRETTY, THERE A LOT OF WORDS, BUT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION IS IS ADDING FTES TO THOSE TEAMS. IS THIS SOMETHING WE VOTE ON IN, IN THE FUTURE OR WHAT? UNFORTUNATELY THE DEADLINE IS AT THE END OF THE MONTH, SO OKAY. WE TECHNICALLY COULD DO IT, BUT IT WON'T BE IN, LIKE IF WE GET IT IN BY THE, IF WE GET [01:00:01] BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS IN BY THE END OF THE MONTH, THEN USUALLY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND I EXPECT THEY'LL HOPEFULLY DO THIS AGAIN. THEY GIVE AN ACTUAL RESPONSE. UH, THERE'S LIKE A BIG DOCUMENT AND THEY RESPOND TO ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. OH, OKAY. RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT ANY TIME, BUT IT, IT'S KIND OF PART OF THE OFFICIAL PROCESS IF WE DO IT BY THE DEADLINE. OKAY. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, DO WE KNOW LIKE WHAT SIZE OF STAFF THESE UNITS HAVE AT THE MOMENT? LIKE HOW MUCH IS THE THREE FTE INCREASE FOR EITHER OF THESE TEAMS, I GUESS, OR WHAT, HOW MUCH DOES THE STAFF GROW PERCENTAGE WISE OR SOMETHING? I THINK WE, WE HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I'M STUART RILEY, DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER OF BUSINESS SERVICES. SO THE CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS TEAM UNDER RICHARD GENESEE, UM, HAS ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE OVERALL. AND, UM, WE ARE, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW AT AUSTIN ENERGY OF LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE TEAMS REQUESTING FTES AND LOOKING HOLISTICALLY AT THE, THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION. UM, I WILL SAY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I THINK, UM, WE HEAR YOU IN TERMS OF THESE POLICY OUTCOMES THAT YOU'RE VERY INTERESTED IN, BUT SAYING ADD THIS MANY FTES AS MORE OF A HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT RATHER THAN A, WE WANT THESE POLICY OUTCOMES AND THESE OUTCOMES ARE IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE, AND I, ME, I SAY THAT ESPECIALLY BECAUSE ANYTIME WE HAVE POSITIONS COME VACANT, WE REALLY LOOK ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE NEED WHAT, WHERE'S OUR BEST USE OF THIS FTE? UM, WHERE DO WE NEED THAT POSITION? WHAT DO OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TELL US ABOUT HOW MUCH HELP IS NEEDED IN CERTAIN AREAS? ARE WE GETTING THE WORK DONE IN THOSE AREAS AND SO FORTH. SO WE CAN ALWAYS REALLOCATE POSITIONS WITHIN AUSTIN ENERGY. AND I'M JUST NOT SURE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS IS GOING TO TELL US, UH, RIGHT NOW, THIS YEAR, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE, UM, NUMBERS, HOW, HOW YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAME UP WITH THESE PARTICULAR FTE AMOUNTS, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY WE HEAR YOU IN TERMS OF THESE PRIORITIES AND THESE ARE PRIORITIES OF OURS AS WELL. AND IT'S UP TO US THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE INTERNAL RESOURCES TO CARRY OUT THESE IMPORTANT INITIATIVES. THANKS. DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS WITHIN THESE TEAMS? I DO NOT. TIM, COULD YOU SPEAK TO YOUR TEAM? YEAH, I HAVE, UM, I HAVE, THANK YOU TIM HARVEY, CUSTOMER SOLUTIONS. I HAVE, UH, 10 FTES, UM, 2D IR CONTRACTORS AND ONE TEMP FTE TO WHAT CONTRACTORS? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, I MEAN CONTRACTORS. IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST CONTRACTORS, IT . UM, AND, AND I WILL SAY ALSO, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS TO DICTATE WHERE THEY SHOULD RESIDE. BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO WE MIGHT NEED FOR BILLING, UM, TO GET THE FUNDS. UH, THEY MIGHT BE OUR GRANTS PEOPLE AND OUR FINANCE GROUP. UM, THEY MIGHT BE, UM, MARKETING PEOPLE TO PROMOTE THESE PROGRAMS OR OUR COMMUNICATION STAFF THAT DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO FIND PEOPLE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, I THINK AGAIN, WE WANT TO GET TO OUTCOMES, AND THIS IS JUST FOR US A LITTLE PRESCRIPTIVE IN TERMS OF IT WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THIS MANY IN THESE SPECIFIC AREAS. YEAH, I HEAR THAT. BUT THAT'S THE CHARGE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS TO MAKE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I, I HEAR YOU, BUT A POLICY RECOMMENDATION WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIVE HERE, RIGHT? WELL, IN TERM THIS, I, I I THINK WE WERE INTERPRETING THIS AS MORE OF A, A HOW WE GET IT DONE RATHER THAN WHAT, WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO GET DONE AND WHAT KIND OF PRIORITIES. YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING LIKE THAT IS, THAT IS LITERALLY THE, UM, THE CHARGE OUT TO ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AT THIS TIME OF YEAR IS TO ASK LIKE WHAT FINANCIAL RESOURCES INCLUDING FOR STAFF ARE NEEDED TO, TO GET IT DONE. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALIGN WITH Y'ALL'S BUDGET. AND, AND I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, IT CAN OR IT CAN, IT DOESN'T. UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S MORE ABOUT THE, UM, THE COMMISSION INDICATING WHAT MIGHT BE A PRIORITY IN TERMS OF AGREED THAT SO. AGREED. TOTALLY. YES. IT'S, IT'S, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, [01:05:01] OR AT LEAST I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE YOUR PROCESS IS ON A DIFFERENT TIMELINE FROM WHEN WE ARE INVITED TO WEIGH IN AND IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. CYRUS. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, RATHER THAN SAY THE NUMBER OF FTES OR WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PLACED, COULD WE JUST SAY WE RECOMMEND THAT ADDITIONAL FTES BE ADDED, UH, TO AUSTIN ENERGY'S, UM, TO AUSTIN ENERGY TO CARRY OUT THESE NEW POLICY INITIATIVES, UH, THAT ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE SOLAR AND, UM, ENERGY EFFICIENCY GREEN BUILDING. UH, YOU KNOW, TO STUART'S POINT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW IF THE PERSON NEED, IF THERE'S A NEED IN BILLING OR THERE'S A NEED IN OUTREACH. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE THE FTS ARE, ARE NEEDED, BUT WE DO THINK THEY'RE GONNA NEED ADDITIONAL FTES FOR ALL THESE PRIORITIES. UM, AND THEN I WAS GONNA SUGGEST, I DID LOOK AT THE BYLAWS AND THERE'S REALLY NOT ANYTHING SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THE SD OR BUILDING CODES, BUT MAYBE WE JUST ADD A SENTENCE IN HERE AND SAY IN ADDITION, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS DEVELOPING NEW IS IS DEVELOPING, IMPLEMENTING NEW ENERGY CODES, WHICH MAY NEED ADDITIONAL, UM, YOU KNOW, FTES TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ADDING SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEW CODE, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE NEW, THE 24 CODE HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED YET, RIGHT? BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. IS THAT TRUE? CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. SO MAYBE WE, WE, WE EXPECT IT WILL AT SOME POINT AND THAT MAY REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL ATTENTION. UM, SO MAYBE JUST ADDING A SENTENCE TO THIS RECOMMENDATION AND THEN NOT SPECIFYING HOW MANY FTES JUST, I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD PUT A RANGE IN. I JUST DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL FOLKS WILL BE NEEDED. WE JUST KIND OF KNOW THAT WE THINK WITH ALL THESE INITIATIVES, THEY'RE GONNA NEED MORE FTES. YEAH. SO I JUST PULLED UP THE BYLAWS AND B SAYS, THE COMMISSION SHALL ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY DA, DA, DA, DA ON ALL POLICY MATTERS RELATING TO THE ELECTRIC UTILITY. I THINK THERE'S A CASE TO BE MADE THAT ENFORCING THE ENERGY CODE RELATES TO THE ELECTRIC UTILITY. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ADDING THAT. CAN YOU WRITE THE SENTENCE, CYRUS, THAT YOU WANT ADDED? YEAH, WHERE DO I, WHERE DO I, WHERE DO I WRITE IT? DO I WRITE IT AS AN EMAIL AND SEND IT TO SOMEBODY OR? SURE, YEAH. I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS THINK ABOUT GENERAL VERSUS SPECIFIC FTES. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A LOW NUMBER PROBABLY COMPARED TO WHAT'S REALLY NEEDED. BUT, UM, WANNA GO WHAT WE CAN GET SUPPORT FOR CYRUS, THIS IS NIKKI HEF. ONCE YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN OUT, IF YOU COULD EMAIL IT TO MYSELF AND COPY AMY EVERHART, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND THEN I'LL, I'LL DO THAT, SEND IT OUT. BUT, UH, YOU'LL WANNA BE ABLE TO CLEARLY STATE IT FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION IF YOU GUYS PROCEED WITH A VOTE. SO YOU'LL NEED TO WRITE IT OUT PRIOR TO VOTING ON IT. AL AND COMMISSIONER WHITE, UH, YEAH, YEAH, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE KIND OF DEMAND SIDE KIND OF PROGRAMS OR DEMAND, DEMAND SIDE MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS. AND I MEAN, AND OBVIOUSLY THE POLICY DIRECTIVE FROM US WAS THE RESOURCE GENERATION PLANS . UH, SO, AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A BIG, WE LEAN VERY HIGHLY ON DEMAND SIDE MANAGEMENT. SO, UH, I GUESS DO WE KNOW LIKE HOW MUCH WE'RE GOOD? YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A 10 YEAR PLAN, RIGHT? SO HOW AMBITIOUS WERE WE IN THE PLAN? I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE, JUST BASED ON WHAT I RECALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS ON THE RESOURCE GENERATION PLAN, IT WAS VERY AMBITIOUS ON THE DEMAND SIDE. SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE DO NEED TO GET WORKING ON THAT AND WE'RE GONNA NEED SOME EXTRA BODIES TO DO SO. AND UM, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER JUST HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE IT WAS, BUT I REMEMBER IT BEING VERY, VERY AMBITIOUS, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO STAFF UP A LOT MORE THAN JUST SIX FTES. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT OR ANYBODY, BUT, YOU KNOW, COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON IT. I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY HAVE, UH, I'M NOT ARE YOU ASKING JUST WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE THAT INCREASED OR KIND OF OVERALL WHAT THE INCREASE? UH, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I HAVE A RESPONSE AND THE RESEARCH GENERATION, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. I, I THINK I PROBABLY STILL JUST HAVE IT THE LAST DRAFT THAT WE VOTED ON, [01:10:01] BUT, UH, THIS, I KNOW CITY COUNCIL DID A BUNCH OF STUFF, UH, FROM THE DAAS, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE. AND, UM, IF VICE CHAIR WHITE, JUST TO REINFORCE WHAT COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCE GENERATION PLAN DID LEAD WITH CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS. I MEAN, IT IT WAS VERY EXPLICIT IN THAT. YEAH. AND SO THAT IS A BIG PRIORITY FOR US, AND AS WE'RE DOING OUR BUDGET PLANNING FOR THE COMING YEAR AND FOR THE COMING FIVE YEAR FORECAST PERIOD, A LOT OF THAT IS REALLY, UM, DICTATED BY WHAT'S IN THAT PLAN. AND SO WHAT YOU ALL WILL SEE THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR AND, AND ESPECIALLY YEARS THAT FOLLOW WILL BE, UM, PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT CARRY OUT ON THAT PLAN. AND SO I THINK FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, THIS, IT, IT LEADS WITH CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS. AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE, UM, THE SOLAR FOR ALL GRANT, UM, HAS THREE, UH, POSITION GRANT FUNDED, FTE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS, UM, WITH IT AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF. HAVE THOSE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED? NO. OKAY. SO WE MIGHT WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT LIKE , THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT, UM, THIS SHOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE DELIVERING JUST ON THAT GRANT. RIGHT? IS THAT THE INTENTION OF THE, THE THREE NEW ONES THAT FOR SOLAR FOR ALL, THEY WILL BE WORKING JUST ON SOLAR FOR ALL, RIGHT. CORRECT. YEAH. I THOUGHT SOLAR FOR ALL WAS REFERENCED IN THIS DOCUMENT. I DI I WASN'T SURE. NO, IT WASN'T. OKAY. MY BAD FOR THAT REASON, BECAUSE I KNEW THERE WERE FTES ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THAT. GOT IT. BUT GOOD POINT. OKAY. LI THINK YOU WERE, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP AT SOME POINT? UH, NO. NO. OKAY. SORRY, I SEE YOUR HAND. HAND. IS YOUR HAND UP FROM BEFORE OR DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING AS WELL? IT, IT'S FROM BEFORE. I DID GO AHEAD AND TRY TO WRITE TWO SENTENCES AND SENT THEM TO, UH, KABA, AMY AND NIKKI. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I WROTE IT CORRECTLY, BUT, UM, AT LEAST IT'S A START. OKAY. WHY DON'T, YEAH, GO AHEAD CHRIS. I, I MEAN THIS, THIS SEEMS KIND OF SUDDEN, UH, AND VERY SPECIFIC, UH, WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT AUSTIN ENERGY'S INTENTIONS ARE IN ORDER TO MEET THE DIRECTIVES THAT ARE IN THE RESOURCE PLAN HERE. AND SO I'M A LITTLE, I'M HESITANT TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S THIS SPECIFIC WITHOUT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHY THE DETAILS ABOUT WHY WE WOULD BE MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT TASKS THESE THREE SPECIFIC FTES IN EACH OF THESE GROUPS ARE GONNA BE? SO THIS COMES OUT OF, YOU KNOW, OVER, I GUESS SAY THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BRINGING NOT JUST MYSELF, BUT WORKING WITH OTHERS THAT MIGHT BRING DIFFERENT IDEAS FORWARD, BE IT IN EFFICIENCY ON SOLAR AND HEARING REPEATEDLY, SOMETIMES IN THESE MEETINGS, SOMETIMES IN STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, DIFFERENT VENUES, THAT ONE OF THE MAIN BARRIERS TO MOVING FORWARD WITH A NEW PROGRAM OR AN EXPANSION OR WHATEVER IS WE'RE WORKING ON X, Y, AND Z. WE, YOU KNOW, DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO DO THIS EXTRA ADDITIONAL THING. UM, SO I WOULDN'T PRESUME TO SAY THIS PERSON SHOULD BE ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY TO ONE PROJECT OR ANOTHER. IT'S JUST MORE HEARING THAT FEEDBACK THAT CAPACITY IS, IS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER TO, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK DEPLOYING MORE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE THESE SAME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOALS. WELL, I GUESS WOULDN'T, WOULD IT BE BETTER TO JUST REC TO MAKE A GENERAL RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COUNCIL SUPPORT ADDITIONAL FTES, ADDITIONAL FTES THAT WILL ALLOW AUSTIN ENERGY TO MEET THE UH, YEAH, I MEAN, PERSONALLY I LIKE TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY ADDITIONAL, THEY CAN GIVE ONE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN ZERO, BUT NOT PROBABLY ANYWHERE CLOSE TO WHAT'S NEEDED. I DON'T THINK THREE'S PROBABLY EVEN WHAT'S NEEDED IN THESE DEPARTMENTS, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO, I MEAN, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I, YOU KNOW, YEAH. IS THE NUMBER THAT AUSTIN ENERGY WOULD LIKE, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THAT, IS THAT A PROCESS WE COULD BE PRIVY TO, OR IS THAT NOT, I THINK THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED AT THIS STAGE, BUT ARE YOU, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE NOT? YEAH, AT THIS POINT WE DON'T KNOW. AND, BUT ALSO, EVEN IF WE DID, I CAN'T, I, I CAN'T GET OUT AHEAD OF WHEN THE CITY [01:15:01] MANAGER, IT'S REALLY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF GETTING VETTED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER, AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER RELEASES HIS BUDGET. AND SO EVEN IF I HAD A, HAD AN ESTIMATE OF THAT RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD REALLY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THAT BUDGET IS RELEASED. YEP. IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE AN AWKWARD REALITY OF THE PROCESS. WE WON'T GET THAT NUMBER UNTIL LIKE, WHAT, LATE JULY WHEN OF COURSE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT'S WRITTEN ON. YEAH. AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THE DAYS FALL THIS YEAR, BUT UM, I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR WE CAME, UH, TO YOU WITH OUR FOR FINANCIAL FORECAST PRESENTATION IN MAY AND WITH OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION IN JULY AND, UH, VICE CHAIR WHITE'S CORRECT THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT DOES KIND OF PUSH IT UP TOWARDS THE TAIL END OF WHEN, YOU KNOW, BUDGET ADOPTION SEASON KIND OF STARTS UP IN EARNEST. WELL, I THINK GIVEN THAT TIMING, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A MORE GENERALIZED RECOMMENDATION OF ADDITIONAL FTES FOR THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMISSION. SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. SO MAYBE JUST EDITING THAT LAST BOLD SENTENCE TO SAY, THE ELECTRIC UTILITY COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT FTES BE ADDED TO THE CUSTOMER RENEWABLE SOLUTIONS TEAM, CUSTOMERS, CUSTOMER RENEWABLE SOLUTIONS, ENERGY EFFICIENCY SERVICES, AND GREEN BUILDINGS TEAMS. OR EVEN INSTEAD OF SPECIFYING TEAMS JUST TO SUPPORT, WE HAD THREE FTES OR ADD, ADD ENOUGH FTES TO, TO MEET THE, UH, SUPPORT THE INITIATIVES REFERENCING OR SUPPORT THE PRIORITIES, ADD ADEQUATELY, ADD THEM TO THE UTILITY AS A WHOLE. DID CYRUS WRITE SOMETHING? IS IT NO, I, WELL, BUT I MEAN, THAT MAKES A QUESTION. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE DOING IT FOR THIS PROGRAM, SHOULD, ARE THERE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT SURE, BUT I DIDN'T DO THAT. YEAH, IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO BRING THAT FORWARD, I'M NOT OPPOSING IT, BUT I DIDN'T, DAVID, TOM CHASON LEFT, BUT I'M SURE HE'S WAITING FOR Y'ALL'S HOW MANY FTES DO YOU WANT FOR GRID HARDENING? SO . YEAH, I MEAN, , DO WE, DID CYRUS SEND SOMETHING AROUND? IS THERE A WAY TO DISPLAY THAT DRAFT? YEAH, I, I JUST SENT SOMETHING SPECIFIC TO THE BUILDING CODE PIECE, BUT, UM, OH YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO GET IT SEND, SEND ABOUT THE, ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE THAT? I'M SENDING THAT DAVID. THANK YOU. I'M SEND IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW. WRITE IT UP QUICK, DAVE. WE CAN GET IT IN . I CAN BARELY TALK. THAT'S OKAY RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YEAH, DAVE, I PROMISE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT IN OUR BUDGET PLANNING. OKAY. YEAH, I DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, GO FOR IT. OH, I TOOK EVERYTHING ELSE OUTTA IT OTHER THAN HIS TEXT. YOU'RE FINE. YOU CAN TALK. OKAY. WELL, I WAS JUST WAITING. I I, I MEAN, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF SENDING RICHARD 50 PEOPLE TO GO GET THIS DONE FASTER, BUT I, I REALLY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SPECIFYING A NUMBER. WE HAVE THE POLICY, WE'VE DELETED THE NUMBERS, NO NUMBERS. OKAY. SO I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT OF, WE HAVE THE POLICY OF THE GEN PLAN. WE HAVE AUSTIN ENERGY COMMITTED TO BUILDING A BUDGET TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. I, I THINK WE SHOULD CERTAINLY SAY WE SUPPORT THEM DOING THAT WITH, WITH NEW FTES AS, AS NEEDED. WELL, THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION TO AUSTIN ENERGY. MM-HMM . THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL. OBVIOUSLY AUSTIN ENERGY WILL SEE IT. DOES IT REQUEST PEOPLE OR, OR BUDGET? WELL, PEOPLE, I MEAN, EQUAL BUDGET, BUT YOU CAN ALSO MAKE ADDITIONAL, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LIKE, YEAH, JUST MONEY FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT MONEY AMOUNT TO, TO OFFER UP EITHER OTHER THAN YEAH. AS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE PLAN. YEAH. OKAY. PHILIPPINE. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS ON DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN ACTUALLY RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL FTS FOR DSDI. I DON'T KNOW IF WE ONLY ARE ALLOWED TO, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF OUR CHARGE. SO MAYBE WE WOULD TAKE OUT, I SAY I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT, CYRUS. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S RELATED. AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE DIVISION OR THE DEPARTMENT DEMAND? WHAT ARE THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES SERVICES DEPARTMENT? [01:20:01] OH, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A SEPARATE, IT'S OH, I SEE, I SEE. YEAH, BUT I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE, YOU SAID IT WAS A COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS TEAM OR, OR WE WERE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL OH, WE'RE NOT SPECIFYING THIS IS RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO. YEAH, THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION. OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. I WAS STILL TRYING TO WORDSMITH THE FIRST ONE. SORRY. YEAH, I THINK I CONFLATED THEM INADVERTENTLY, SO SORRY. OH NO, WE'RE PROBABLY BEING CONFUSED. WE, I MEAN WE COULD PUT THEM ALL AS ONE RECOMMENDATION AND, BUT IT WOULD, YEAH, HE JUST WROTE THIS. YEAH. YEAH, I JUST WROTE THIS. ALRIGHT, SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, THOUGHTS ON WHAT CYRUS HAS PUT HERE? CYRUS, I'M NOT SURE, UM, ABOUT THE OUTREACH. I MEAN, U ISN'T USUALLY THE, I THINK THE NEED IS LIKE IN ENFORCEMENT. I MEANT OUTREACH IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING BUILDERS THAT ONCE THESE CODES GET ADOPTED. UM, SO THIS IS ALL ASSUMING THAT THESE NEW NEW CODES GET ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST MAKING THAT ASSUMPTION HASN'T HAPPENED YET. IS THERE STILL A SHORTAGE OF INSPECTORS? IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET MY SYSTEM WORKING AND THE METER INSTALLED FROM THE TIME IT WAS INSTALLED ON A DAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ENFORCING THE ENERGY CODE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT MOSTLY IS NOT STUFFED. NO, YEAH, IT'S INSTALLATION. RIGHT? IT'S ONE OF THE DISINCENTIVES THAT IT'S CAN TAKE SO LONG TO AFTER YOU INSTALL THE SYSTEM TO GET THE METER INSTALLED. BECAUSE YEAH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS ISN'T ABOUT SOLAR. DAVE, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SOLAR. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT MEETING THE, THE ENERGY CODES. OKAY. UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THIS IS FTES FOR AUSTIN ENERGY BECAUSE IT SAYS AUSTIN ENERGY AND DSD. UM, WELL I, YEAH, I WASN'T SURE , I WASN'T SURE. UM, I MEAN I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AUSTIN ENERGY THAT REALLY DOES THE ENFORCEMENT. IT'S REALLY DSD. YEAH, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD SUGGEST FOR DSD AND JUST FOCUS ON THE ENFORCEMENT SINCE OKAY. WHAT'S THE WAY, DO WE HAVE TO SPECIFY THE DEPARTMENT? CAN WE JUST IDENTIFY THE FUNCTION THAT WE WANT THE FTES TO DO? OH YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. TAKE OUT AUSTIN ENERGY AND DSD AND JUST SAY FOR OUTREACH, IMPLEMENTATION ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW ENERGY CODES AND, AND TAKE OUT THE DON'T SAY AS PART OF THE GREEN BUILDING CODES. 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY A SEPARATE PROGRAM. LET'S, YEAH, LET'S JUST, UM, LET'S JUST KEEP IT TO ENERGY CODES. I THINK THAT'S NOT A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION. THINK THAT'S RECOMMENDATION. I THINK THAT'S SAUCE . UM, LIKE WHY WOULD WE KNOW WHERE THE STAFF ARE FOR THE, OR WOULD BE FOR THIS? WHY ARE WE NOT SAYING WHERE THEY WOULD BE OR ARE? UM, BECAUSE I'M UNCLEAR ON WHETHER WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON DSD BUDGET. 'CAUSE WE'RE ADVISING ON AUSTIN ENERGY. THAT'S WHY . ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? OKAY. UM, SARAH'S DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY EDITS? SO YOU CAN PUT IT BACK ON THE SCREEN AND REALLY YOU CAN JUST SHARE YOUR SCREEN SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO EMAIL IT. CYRUS, ARE YOU THERE? SORRY. UM, UH, CAN SHARE MY SCREEN. OKAY. GIVE ME TALK ABOUT THE OTHER ONE. GIVE ME A FEW, GIVE ME LIKE TWO MINUTES JUST TO, UM, PUT IT IN SOME BIG WORDS. I MEAN BIG FONT, SO THEN I'LL SHARE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'M, I WISH I HAD THE LINK. I [01:25:04] ALL RIGHT. AMY, IF I SEND YOU AN UPDATE, CAN WE GET IT BACK ON THE SCREEN? YES. OKAY. THANKS. I HAVE SOME PROPOSED LANGUAGE. UH, MADAM CHAIR. SORRY, DO YOU WANNA HEAR IT? YEAH, YEAH, GO AHEAD. WELL, THIS IS BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, RIGHT? I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE US FORWARD. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT I, UH, GATHERED BASED ON, UH, THE TENOR OF THE, OF THE CONVERSATION AS THE ELECTRIC UTILITY COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE ALLOCATION OF ADDITIONAL FTES TO AUSTIN ENERGY TO ENSURE THAT THE PROFFER STAFFING IS AVAILABLE TO ADVANCE THE PRIORITIES IN THE RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN 2035. OBVIOUSLY VERY GENERIC, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE ARTICULATED RIGHT, THE POLICY POSITIONS NOW WE'RE SAYING ALLOCATE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY RIGHT. TO IMPLEMENT IT. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TOO GENERIC OR TOO GENERAL, BUT YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT GETS WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION. UM, IF WE COULD AT LEAST SAY LIKE, TO IMPLEMENT THE DEMAND SIDE OR CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS, UM, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE, YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY AMENABLE TO THAT. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT. . I LIKE THE APPROACH THOUGH, OF IDENTIFYING THE POLICY PRIORITY IN A MECHANISM. I'M JUST KIND OF LEAVING IT AT THAT LEVEL. I COULD BE ON, I'LL BE ON BOARD WITH THAT. YEAH, SAME. OKAY. UM, WELL THIS, I PUT IN THE CHAT MY PROPOSAL 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SHARE MY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN. ALL RIGHT. WELL I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, SO MAYBE A BETTER EMAIL IT BACK AROUND. I'LL EMAIL IT. OKAY. SO THIS IS WHAT I HAD WRITTEN WITHOUT THE NUMBERS. UM, I'M HEARING THIS OTHER, UM, POSSIBILITY OF RECOMMENDS THAT FTES BE ADDED TO IMPLEMENT THE CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS GOALS IN THE RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN. OKAY. SO FORGET WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN, ALTHOUGH I THINK I DO HAVE TO READ, DO I HAVE TO READ THIS ALL INTO THE RECORD? YES. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA READ THE ITEM AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT. ONE SECOND. OKAY. I'M GONNA READ FAST 'CAUSE Y'ALL CAN SEE IT. UM, THIS IS, UH, BUDGET RECOMMENDATION FOR FY 25 26, UH, BUDGET DESCRIPTION OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. THE CUSTOMER ENERGY DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AUSTIN ENERGY'S DEMAND SIDE PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDE CUSTOMER SIDE, SOLAR ENERGY, COMMUNITY, SOLAR, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, DEMAND RESPONSE, AND TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION. THE SUCCESS OF THESE PROGRAMS IS ESSENTIAL FOR MEETING THE GOALS OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN IN THE AUSTIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, AND FOR MAINTAINING AFFORDABILITY AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, THE ROLES OF THE TEAMS WITHIN THE CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLU WITHIN CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN EXPANDING AND WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND AS THESE COUNCIL ADAPTED PLANS THAT IMPLEMENTED. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT STAFFING KEEP PACE WITH THE NEED AND DEMAND FOR THIS IMPORTANT WORK. FOR EXAMPLE, THE SOLAR STANDARD OFFER PROGRAM FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS HAS LAUNCHED AN EXPANSION IS BEING DISCUSSED AND IS ENVISIONED IN THE AUSTIN ENERGY RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN. WHILE THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL DO MOST OF THE WORK TO DELIVER ENERGY THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, AUSTIN ENERGY STAFF PLAY IMPORTANT ROLES IN MAKING IT AND OTHER SOLAR PROGRAMS A SUCCESS. THEY RESPOND TO QUESTIONS FROM THE [01:30:01] PUBLIC REVIEW APPLICATIONS, CONDUCT INSPECTIONS AND RUN PAYMENTS. STAFF ARE ALSO WORKING TO IMPLEMENT A DISTRIBUTED ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND WILL ALSO, THAT WILL ALLOW THE UTILITY TO UTILIZE CUSTOMER SIDE BATTERIES AND ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT A PASSIVE HOUSE PILOT PROGRAM TO INCENTIVIZE ENERGY EFFICIENT BUILDING TECHNIQUES. THE TEAMS WITHIN CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS, UM, THAT ARE WORKING TO IMPLEMENT THESE NEW PROGRAMS AS WELL AS THE MANY EXISTING PROGRAMS MUST GROW TO EFFECTIVELY, TO EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY DO THIS IMPORTANT WORK. THE ELECTRIC UTILITY COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE FTES BE ADDED TO IMPLEMENT THE CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS GOALS IN THE AUSTIN ENERGY RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN MOVE APPROVAL. SO MOVED. IS THAT A SECOND? WHO MOVED? OH, SORRY, SECOND TO SECOND. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. THANKS CYRUS. UM, ALL RIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, ACTUALLY HOLD ON. I THINK WE TECHNICALLY, I THINK WE TECHNICALLY HAVE TO ADD YOURS TO THIS CYRUS AND THEN VOTE ON IT. SO CAN WE, CAN WE SEE HIS CHAT? IS IT POSSIBLE TO CLICK ON THE CHAT BUTTON? I ALSO SENT IT AS AN EMAIL TO NIKKI, YOU AND, UM, AMY, SO WITHDRAWING MY MOTION, BUT I'M NOT GONNA REREAD IT. WE CAN AMEND IT. YEAH. OKAY, FINE. I CAN READ WHAT I WROTE JUST, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE SCREEN. IT SAYS, AUSTIN ENERGY IS CHARGED WITH DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND CITY COUNCIL, THE ADOPTION IMPLEMENTATION ENFORCEMENT OF ENERGY CODE. IT IS EXPECTED IN 2025, THE CITY COUNCIL NEW ENERGY CODES. THE EUCU RECOMMENDS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FT. FTES FOR OUTREACH, IMPLEMENTATION, AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE NEW ENERGY CODES. ARE YOU, UH, MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND CYRUS? I'M MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND, UM, YES, BY ADDING THIS SECOND BULLET. OKAY, GREAT. ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT? OKAY, SO AMENDED NOW WE CAN VOTE ON THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. UH, ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S UNANIMOUS. GREAT. UM, THAT WAS OUR LAST ITEM. THANKS FOR . YEAH, I ASKED THAT, THAT GETS EMAILED TO ME, PLEASE. YEAH. UM, AND PLEASE ALSO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE WHAT YOU READ INTO THE RECORD WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU HAD WRITTEN FOR THE HAS AND THE HAVE AND THE WORD IMPLEMENT. SO JUST MAKE SURE I EDIT IT. THAT'S CAPTURED HERE. I'VE GOT IT. AND THEN I'LL ADD CYRUS'S IN AND SEND IT TO YOU. AND PLEASE SEND IT FROM YOUR BBC EMAIL. THANK YOU. UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I THINK, I THINK WE JUST VOTED TO AMEND THE MOTION. WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THE ACTUAL MOTION YET. WELL, WE JUST, UH, I THINK WITH AMENDMENTS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, BUT IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, WE CAN VOTE AGAIN. OH, I SEE. SO YOU'RE SAYING WHEN THERE WAS NO OBJECTION, THE MOTION WAS AMENDED AND THEN WHEN WE VOTED, IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE REVISED AMEND. OKAY. AS LONG AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ACTION WAS, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE APPROVING IT. AMEND. OKAY. WELL THEN, SINCE YOU WERE CONFUSED, I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. UM, SO JUST ONE MORE TIME. WE'VE, WE'VE MADE THE MOTION, WE'VE AMENDED IT WITH THIS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE FROM CYRUS. AND ANYBODY IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. STILL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED. THANK YOU. AND IF I MAY I EVEN MAKE ONE OTHER SUGGESTION THAT YOU IDENTIFY WHO WITHIN THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO GO INTO THE PORTAL AND ENTER THAT IN ONCE IT'S OFFICIALLY OKAY. ENTERED AS DAVE, ARE YOU UP FOR DOING THAT? UM, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, NO. NO. OKAY. UM, I CAN DO IT AND WE CAN COORDINATE ON THE TIMING ON THAT, ON WHEN IT CAN BE DONE BECAUSE CERTAIN THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN [01:35:01] BEHIND THE SCENES, SO LIKE IT HAS TO GET POSTED FIRST. OKAY, THANKS. I WILL START BY SENDING YOU THE FINAL DOCUMENT AND THEN YOU CAN LET ME KNOW. ALL RIGHT. LAST THING [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ] IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AND AL YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING UP EARLIER. UH, WHAT WAS IT? OH, I WAS INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE, UH, SYSTEM, RIGHT, MIKE? THE RC, MIKE. MIKE. MIKE. I WAS INTERESTED IN THE CENTRAL COOLING SYSTEM AND SEEING IF THE, UH, STAFF REPORT THAT'S BEING PUT TOGETHER FOR FAIRLY SOON PRESENTATION OF THE RMC COULD ALSO BE PRESENTED HERE. THAT SEEMS REASONABLE. COULD WE GET THAT SAME PRESENTATION HERE? HI, LISA MARTIN, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER. SO, UM, I WOULD JUST FIRST LIKE TO DIRECT YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU ASKED ABOUT INFORMATIONAL INFORMATION ON THE DISTRICT ENERGY AND COOLING AND ON AUSTIN ENERGY'S WEBSITE UNDER DISTRICT COOLING, THERE'S ACTUALLY A PLETHORA OF INFORMATION, BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM IN GENERAL. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE TO START, COMMISSIONER BRADEN. AND THEN WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OKAY. I WILL, UH, LOOK THAT UP AND START THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS? JE I COULD HAVE A QUICK GO. UM, JOSH, GO AHEAD. I'M A, DO WE, IF WE WANTED FUTURE ITEMS FOR NEXT TIME, DO THEY HAVE TO BE SAID TONIGHT OR IS NO, I FORGET WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, THE TIME LIMIT FOR IT? UM, I, WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SET ONE THIS TIME AROUND WHEN WE DID THE AGENDA, BUT IN GENERAL, IF YOU CAN GET THEM LIKE A WEEK IN ADVANCE, THEN THAT HELPS. OKAY. AND IF YOU WANT A STAFF BRIEFING, THEN YOU SHOULD GIVE IT MORE IN ADVANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO SURE. PREPARE. OKAY. I JUST, IS YOUR ITEM A STAFF BRIEFING OR IS IT IT'S AN ILL-FORMED THING. I'M NOT WHATEVER. YEAH, MAYBE A STAFF BRIEFING, BUT IT'S NOT FULLY FORMED YET. YEAH. OKAY. WELL YOU CAN, I THINK JUST EMAIL, UM, DAVE AND, AND MYSELF AND THE STAFF LIAISONS AND, UM, WE'LL GET IT ON AN AGENDA IF POSSIBLE. UM, DAVE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO FLAG? YEAH, LET ME TRY TO GET CLOSER. YEAH. UM, DISTRIBUTION, HARDENING, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERGROUNDING AND THE ABOVE GROUND. I THINK THAT'S QUEUED UP. I WAS WATCHING LAST MONTH'S EUC MEETING AND IT SEEMED LIKE A, OF ALL THE MEETINGS I SHOULD NOT HAVE MISSED. THAT'S THE ONE. UM, AND THERE ARE I THINK, FOLLOW UPS SCHEDULED MAYBE NEXT MONTH ON THAT. HELLO AGAIN? UM, YES, UH, CHAIR TUTTLE. UM, WE ARE WORKING ON BRINGING THE UNDERGROUNDING FEASIBILITY STUDY RESULTS TO HOPEFULLY TO THE UOC LATER THIS MONTH. AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO THE EUC FOLLOWING THAT. UM, SO SHOULD BE NEXT MONTH. AND THEN OVERHEAD HARDENING, UM, WE'RE AIMING FOR MAY, MAY, JUNE. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHERS? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOT OBJECTION OR ADJOURNED AT 7 42. THANKS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.