* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] STARTED, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS. UH, CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR [CALL TO ORDER] MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. APRIL 16TH, 2025 AT SIX O'CLOCK ON THE DOT, DESPITE TRAFFIC, UH, PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER, UH, PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER, EVENT CENTER. ROOM 14 0 5 63 10 WILHELMINA DELCO DRIVE, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 7 5 2. WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL FOR OUR, UM, REMOTE COMMISSIONER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR AUDIO IS QUITE COMING THROUGH YET. AM I THE ONLY REMOTE COMMISSIONER? OH, YES. YOU'RE THE ONLY REMOTE COMMISSIONER. ALRIGHT, WELL, I'M HERE. OKAY. SULLIVAN HERE, CHEN. OKAY, WE'RE WAIT ON HY UH, FLURRY HERE. OKAY. KRUGER HERE. FER IS HERE. LUKI HERE. GREAT. FIONA HERE. AND BRIER HERE. OKAY. WE QUORUM. ALL RIGHT. UH, FIRST OFF, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION GENERAL, [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL] DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YES, WE HAVE ONE, UH, REMOTE SPEAKER. STEPHANIE SIMMONS. HI, STEPHANIE. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. HI, I'M STEPHANIE SIMMONS. UH, I'M FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT MYSELF. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE RECENT CITY OF AUSTIN ENERGY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE STUDY REGARDING THE VARYING CO THE POWER LINES COSTS. UM, I'VE READ THE REPORT BRIEFLY AND LOOKED, WATCHED THE SLIDE SET AND THE COST TO BURY THE POWER LINES WAS APPROXIMATELY $50 BILLION. BUT THE MODELS USED DID DO JUST A SIMPLE ONE-TO-ONE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR POWER LINES UP AND POWER LINES DOWN. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, COMMISSION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE URBAN CANOPY TO BE INCREASED, ESPECIALLY IN EAST AUSTIN. UM, I RECENTLY RECEIVED A FOOD AND CLIMATE EQUITY GRANT THAT ALLOWED US TO PLANT TREES ALONG, UM, UNSHADED STREETS. AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS POWER LINES IMPEDED OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT. SO, UM, SOMETIMES THE BENEFIT OF BEARING THE POWER LINE ISN'T PURELY ONE-TO-ONE, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN REPLACE THAT POWER LINE WITH A TREE, THE OFFSET OF THE POWER SAVINGS BASED ON THE REDUCED GRID LOAD AND THE BENEFITS CULTURALLY AND, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY THAT A TREE WOULD, UH, PROVIDE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED IN THE MODEL. SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP TO THE COMMISSION, AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THIS FURTHER WITH ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT IT ALL RIGHT. MOVING. DO YOU WANNA GIVE COMMISSIONER FIERRO OH, A CHANCE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF? WE HAVE ANOTHER NEW FACE. WE'RE SO SPOILED HERE. IT'S BEEN THE LAST FEW MEETINGS. WE WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF, WHICH DISTRICT YOU'RE IN, AND WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE. SURE. SO, HI Y'ALL. MY NAME IS, UH, ANNIE FIRO, YOU, SHE HER PRONOUNS. AND I AM IN DISTRICT SEVEN. UM, I, I'M EXCITED ABOUT BEING PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. I'VE BEEN IN CLIMATE ORGANIZER FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS HERE, BASED IN AUSTIN, BUT TRAVELED THROUGHOUT TEXAS. UH, SO I'M EXCITED TO BRING THAT, LIKE, COMMUNITY OUTPUT TO THIS COMMISSION. UM, YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER JOINING THE DAAS IF YOU WANNA JOIN OUR ROLL CALL. RESI. WELL, HEY, HEY, HEY, FOLKS. UH, HERE'S RESI, DISTRICT ONE. I'M HERE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UM, MINUTES. WERE POSTED FOR LAST WEEK, UM, FOR THE APRIL 2ND MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. ANY CHANGES? REQUESTED AT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. GOT A SECOND. MY BRIMER ALL IN FAVOR? HANDS VOTE. GOT SULLIVAN, CH QURESHI, FLURRY, KRUGER, FER, LUKEY, FIRO, AND BRIER. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO PUBLIC [2. Name: Flatz-130 SP-2024-0298D Applicant: Ted McConaghy (Kleinfelder) Location: 7400 Zekelman Blvd, Austin, TX 78724 Council District: Council District does not apply in Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Staff: David Michael, Environmental Review Specialist, Development Services Department, (512) 974-2263, david.michael@ausitntexas.gov Applicant request: Request to vary from a) LDC 25-8-302 to allow up to 600 SF of building on slopes over 25%, and to allow up to 3,000 SF of parking area on slopes over 15%; b) LDC 25-8-341 to allow up to 11 feet of cut, and c) LDC 25-8-342 to allow up to 16 feet of fill. Staff Recommendation: Staff recommends this variance with conditions] HEARINGS. UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE FLATS. ONE 30 SP 2024 DASH 0 2 98 D APPLICANT, TED MCCONAUGHEY, KLEINFELD, DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? SORRY. YES. I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEE YOU AS WELL. UH, WE HAVE DAVID MICHAEL, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, SPECIALIST DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. [00:05:08] GOOD EVENING, AS YOU SAID. I'M, UH, DAVID MICHAEL, I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW SPECIALIST IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND I WAS ASSIGNED THIS SIP PLAN. AND, UH, WE'VE, UH, BEEN WORKING WITH APPLICANT, UH, WHO APPLIED FOR COMMISSION VARIANCE, UH, FOR THREE DIFFERENT COMMISSION VARIANCES, AND WOULD'VE ALL RECEIVED THE PACKET WITH ALL THE INFORMATION. AND SO WHAT I'M PROVIDING NOW IS A VERY, A SIMPLE PRESENTATION, UH, BREAKING IT DOWN BEFORE THE APPLICANT, UH, GIVES THEIR PRESENTATION. UM, WE DO, UH, MAYBE NEED TO PAUSE A MOMENT UNTIL WE CAN GET SUPPORT TO UPLOAD THE PRESENTATION. I OH, WHILE WE WAIT, I CAN, UH, PROVIDE MORE EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT I DO, SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M PRESENTING HERE. SO, I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW SPECIALIST. I'M ONE OF, UH, MANY REVIEWS THAT LOOK AT A SITE PLAN. AND SO, UM, THE KIND OF WHAT WE MAINLY LOOK AT IS, UH, CONSTRUCTION ON SLOPES, UH, CUT AND FILL, UM, ISSUES WITH THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, PROXIMITY TO THE, TO THE, UM, STREAM AND, UM, EROSION CONTROL DURING CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THAT'S MAINLY WHAT WE LOOK AT. AND SO TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONSTRUCTION ON THE SLOPES. CUT AND FILL. HERE WE GO. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO, UM, THIS, THAT'S NOT THE, IS THERE A COVER SHEET? THE BEGINNING SHEET? YEAH. SO THIS IS THE FLATS ONE 30 PROJECT, 7,400 ZUCKERMAN BOULEVARD. UH, IT'S JUST DOWNHILL OF, UH, DECKER LAKE. SO WHEN YOU'RE STANDING ON THE SIDE AND YOU LOOK UP, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DAM. NOW WE CAN GO INTO THE, DO I PUSH A BUTTON TO MAKE IT GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OH, PREVIOUS SLIDE, PLEASE. THANKS. SO THIS IS THE ETJ. IT'S NOT IN THE FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION, UH, THE DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE. IT'S A SUBURBAN CLASSIFICATION, SO IT'S SUBURBAN WATERSHED, WHICH MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE DECKER CREEK WATERSHED. UH, IT'S NOT LOCATED OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, AND, UH, THERE IS A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND WETLANDS ON THE SITE. NEXT, PLEASE. SO THERE YOU ARE. YOU CAN SEE A MAP, THE AREA THAT RED RECTANGLE IS SHOWING YOU WHERE THIS SIDE IS, AGAIN, ON THE JUST DOWNHILL OF DECKER LAKE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THERE YOU SEE IT IN, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF, UH, NINE'S AT 9 73, AND JUST WEST OF THE TOLL ROAD. IT'S UNDEVELOPED RIGHT NOW. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WITH SLOPES, UH, GOING DOWN FROM EAST TO WEST, IT'S ABOUT A 50 55 FOOT, UH, GRADE CHANGE FROM EAST TO WEST WITH THE, UH, CREEK ON THE WEST SIDE OF IT. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING ACROSS THE NORTH AND DOWN THE WEST SIDE OF IT. AND SO IN THE, THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT SLIDE, YOU SEE THAT BUFFER ALONG THE CREEK, UH, SHOWING WHERE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS NEXT. IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SIDE. IT'S POST OAK SAVANNAH, IF I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT. SO IT'S THESE SCATTERED OAKS WITH SORT OF PRAIRIE GRASSES BETWEEN THEM. UH, IT'S A LOVELY SITE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON ONE SIDE, UM, AND THEN THE, THE LAKE LIVING OVER [00:10:01] IT. AND THEN THIS OLD PASTURE LAND REALLY THAT HASN'T BEEN GRAYED IN A LITTLE WHILE. NEXT. SO THEY'RE REQUESTING THREE VARIANCES, REQUEST TO VARY FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 8 3 3 41 TO ALLOW CUT UP TO 11 FEET, REQUEST TO VARY FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 8 3 42 TO ALLOW FILL UP TO 16 FEET AND CONSTRUCT A WATER QUALITY CONTROL FACILITY OVER FOUR FEET ON SLOPES WITH A GRADIENT OF MORE THAN 15%. AND LASTLY, REQUEST A VARY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 25 8 3 0 2 TO ALLOW 600 SQUARE FEET OF BILLING TO BE LOCATED ON SLOPES OVER 25% AND 3000 SQUARE FEET OF PARKING AREA TO BE LOCATED ON THE SLOPES OVER 15%. NEXT, PLEASE. SO, UH, WHAT THIS IS SHOWING YOU HERE, THOSE DIFFERENT COLOR FIELDS ARE SHOWING THE PROPOSED CUT AND FILL. THERE'S AN ELEVATION TABLE TO THE RIGHT, BREAKING THAT DOWN FOR YOU. THIS WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE, UH, APPLICATION PACKET THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED. UM, SO LOOKING AT THAT PLAN VIEW TO THE RIGHT, TO THE EAST SIDE IS THE PROPOSED CUT, AND THE, THE ORANGES, UH, THE DARKER ORANGE IS THE, WHAT THEY NEED A VARIANCE FOR. THE LIGHTER ORANGE IS WHAT I COULD PROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO BETWEEN FOUR AND EIGHT FEET OF CUT. AND THEN THE DARKER, THE ORANGE IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR. ON THE, UH, LEFT SIDE TO THE WEST AREA AT THE SITE IS A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FILL, THE LIGHTER BLUE, WHAT I COULD APPROVE BETWEEN FOUR AND EIGHT FEET. AND THEN THE DARKER BLUE IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR. UM, THE CUT IS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT PRIMARY ENTRANCE COMING DOWN FROM THE NORTH. AND THE FILL IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. IT'S ABOUT 10 BUILDINGS THERE, I THINK. AND, UH, THE ASSOCIATED PARKING THE NEXT, OH, I'M SORRY, IF YOU JUMP BACK REAL QUICK. AND, UH, THE TABLE THERE BREAKS DOWN FOR YOU. SO YOU HAVE IT, THE, THE ELEVATIONS AND THE AREA THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND THE VOLUME. AND I WANT TO NOTE HERE THAT WE DID WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CUT AND FILL, UH, THAT THEY WERE SEEKING WHEN THEY FIRST SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION. NEXT, THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING, AS IT SAYS, THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION ON SLOPES. THEY HAVE THE TOTAL AREA THERE OF THE, OF THE SITE, AND THEN HOW MUCH IT IS UNDER 15% SLOPES OVER, YOU KNOW, 15 TO 25 SLOPES OVER 25%. SO, UH, IN RED ARE THE SLOPES, 15 TO 25%, AND THEN IN BLACK SLOPES ABOVE 25%. IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S ALL ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THESE ARE SORT OF REELS, UM, GO DOWN TO THAT CREEK AND THERE'S KINDA SPACED TO CROSS THE SITE NORTH TO SOUTH, UM, BREAKING IT UP INTO SMALLER DEVELOPABLE AREAS. NEXT. SO THE FINDINGS AND SUMMARY, UH, THIS VARIANCE FOR GRADING HAS BEEN GRANTED FOR SIMILAR PROJECTS. UH, THE REQUESTED GRADING AND CONSTRUCTION ON THE SLOPES ARE NOT DESIGNED DECISIONS, AND THE PROJECT PROVIDES GREATER ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION WITH INCREASED LANDSCAPING. THE PROJECT DOES NOT CREATE A SIGNIFICANT PROBABILITY OF HARMFUL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES, AND THE VARIANCE WILL RESULT IN WATER QUALITY THAT IS AT LEAST EQUAL TO THE WATER QUALITY ACHIEVABLE WITHOUT THE VARIANCE NEXT. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THESE VARIANCES AND HAVE, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE FINDINGS OF FACT HAVE BEEN MET NEXT. SO, UM, THERE'S CONDITIONS ATTACHED TO THESE, UH, VARIANCE REQUESTS. ONE THAT THE NATURAL DRAW ADJACENT TO BILLINGS THREE AND SEVEN IS DESIGNED AS A SUNKEN GARDEN THAT FILTERS RUN OFF THE TRICKLE CHANNEL AND POLLINATOR PLANTINGS. TWO, THE SITE WILL MEET FULL LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AS SPECIFIED BY CODE. DESPITE THE SITE BEING LOCATED IN ETJ WHERE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE DOES NOT APPLY, NOTABLY, ALL PARKING SPACES WILL BE WITHIN 50 FOOT OF RADIUS OF A SHADE TREE. SO TO CLARIFY THAT, IF YOU'RE IN SU IN THE FULL, UH, PURPOSE JURISDICTION, THERE'S LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR A SITE PLAN. AND THEN IN THE ETJ, THERE'S NOT, BUT CONDITIONS OF THIS IS THAT THEY WILL DO FULL LANDSCAPE AS IF IT WAS INSIDE THE CITY. AND LASTLY, ALL NEW THREE TO ONE SLOPES WILL USE, UH, A CODE SPECIFIED UPLAND SEED MIX WITH ADDITIONAL SHRUBS AND TREES PROVIDED NEAR THE BASE OF THE SLOPES TO ASSIST WITH STABILIZATION NEXT. AND SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE, AND I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR PRESENTATION NOW. THANK YOU. YOU OKAY, APPLICANT? OH, ON TOP OF IT. THANK YOU. [00:15:09] HELLO, I'M TED MCCONAUGHY, UH, WITH DOUCETTE KLEINFELTER. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, UH, Z MODULAR. AND, UM, I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE SITE PLAN. UM, WE'VE BEEN IN REVIEW FOR A WHILE AND HAVE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WORKING WITH, UH, STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON DIFFERENT ITERATIONS, UH, COLLABORATING ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE SITE LAYOUT ISSUES, AS WELL AS FINDING WAYS OF ENHANCING THE SITE SO WE CAN ACHIEVE A, YOU KNOW, BETTER ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, YOU KNOW, ENHANCEMENTS FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHILE REQUESTING THE VARIANCE, UM, I'LL WAIT FOR HIM TO COME UP WITH A PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND ALSO THANK CITY STAFF. WE SPENT ABOUT SIX MONTHS GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING VERY CAREFULLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY MADE THE BEST SITE THAT WE COULD. AND I WILL NOTE, UH, WE ARE JOINED BY COMMISSIONER GANGLY. IF YOU'LL WANT US, WANNA DO US A QUICK HERE OR PRESENT INTO YOUR MIC PRESENT. WHILE WE'RE WAITING, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK, UH, INDICATION THAT THIS IS, UH, ONE PART OF A MUCH LARGER PROJECT, UH, CALLED WINDING TRAILS. UH, THE SITE IS LOCATED IN A VERY BEAUTIFUL SPOT, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO IT. WE HAVE LITERALLY SIX OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY PUBLIC WATER, PUBLIC WASTEWATER, UH, PUBLIC LIFT STATION THAT'LL SERVE THIS SITE AND OTHER SITES IN THE AREA, AS WELL AS SOME PRETTY PROFOUND ENHANCEMENTS TO FM 9 73. SO, UH, HE'S BROUGHT UP THE SLIDES. I'LL GO INTO IT. UM, THE LEFT SLIDE, YOU KNOW, WE PRETTY MUCH ALL GOT AN IDEA OF WHERE, THIS IS NORTHEAST TRAVIS COUNTY. IT'S IN THE ETJ, AND IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE ONE 30 CORRIDOR, WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL. UH, JUST A VERY UNDEVELOPED AREA ALONG THE ONE 30 CORRIDOR THERE HISTORICALLY. AND, UM, HOPING TO BRING SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO THAT AREA. UH, THE RIGHT PANEL SHOWS THE SITE IN CONTEXT. UM, IN PARTICULAR, UH, AS DAVID MENTIONED, YOU CAN SEE DECKER LAKE DAM IS IMMEDIATELY UPSTREAM OF THE SITE, UM, MAKING SOME CHALLENGES. UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO I WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION, JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS BASICALLY EXISTING CONDITION, SLOPE MAP AND TOPOGRAPHIC MAP, AND JUST BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH ON THE SITE. UH, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL SITE, BUT IT DOES HAVE SOME CHALLENGES, UM, ALONG THE NORTH SIDE. AND THE WEST SIDE IS OLD DECKER CREEK. UM, SO THAT INCLUDES BOTH A VERY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN AS WELL AS SIGNIFICANT WETLANDS. UM, ALONG WITH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE A VERY LARGE, UH, IMPOUNDMENT, WHICH CREATES THIS, UH, REALLY BEAUTIFUL POOL. SO, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE CEF SET, BASICALLY ALL THE WETLANDS ARE CEFS, UH, CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, UH, BETWEEN THOSE, UH, FEATURES AND THE FLOODPLAIN, UM, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF SETBACK FROM THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT ALONG THE NORTH AND THE WEST. UM, IN ADDITION, YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY, UH, INH. THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF TOPOGRAPHY, UH, FROM THE EAST SIDE, HEADING DOWN WEST, EVEN BEFORE YOU GET TO THE FLOODPLAIN, THERE'S ABOUT, UH, 35 FEET, 40 FEET OF FALL. SO IT'S ABOUT SEVEN TO 12% OF JUST NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY FROM ONE SIDE TO THE NEXT. UH, THIRD IS THE, UH, ALL THE AREAS IN RED AND BLACK ARE THE SLOPES OVER THE, THE RED IS THE SLOPES OVER 15%. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S KIND OF THESE NATURAL LITTLE, YOU KNOW, MINOR DRAWS THAT ARE RUNNING EAST TO WEST ACROSS THE SIDE. AND THEN FINALLY, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING CHARACTERISTICS, IS IF YOU SEE SORT OF CENTRALLY LOCATED, THERE'S A BLUE LINE, UH, BASICALLY STARTS AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT LITTLE POND AND THEN HEADS SOUTH. THAT IS WHAT'S CALLED THE INUNDATION ZONE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WORK WITH TRAVIS COUNTY ON SINCE IT'S IN THE COUNTY. UM, WE WORK WITH TRAVIS COUNTY FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR ON DOING A FLOOD STUDY. AND PART OF THAT FLOOD STUDY, UH, WAS, UH, INCLUDED IDENTIFYING IF THERE WAS A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE DAM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT WATER, AND IT WOULD CLEARLY EXCEED SUBSTANTIALLY THE, UH, EXTENT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. SO WHAT THE DETERMINATION WAS, WAS THAT YOU CAN STILL BUILD IN IT, BUT ANY OCCUPIED BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE TWO FEET ABOVE THAT INUNDATION ZONE. UM, OUR PROJECT WAS REALLY KIND OF THE GUINEA PIG TEST CASE FOR THE COUNTY, AND WE WORKED WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, REALLY CLOSELY ON GETTING THIS FIGURED OUT. WE DID WHAT'S CALLED AN EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN TO, UH, ADDRESS [00:20:01] THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS LIVING NEARBY. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO USE OUR PROJECT AS THE SPRINGBOARD FOR NEW LEGISLATION WITHIN THE COUNTY ON HOW TO DEVELOP IN PROXIMITY TO, UH, TO DAMS LIKE THIS ONE. SO I FEEL LIKE WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH THE WAY WE, UM, YOU KNOW, CHANGED THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT TO FALL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE INUNDATION ZONE. UM, BUT GIVEN ALL THESE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, CONSTRAINTS, THE CEFS, THE FLOODPLAIN, THE INUNDATION ZONE, AND THESE, UH, THE SLOPE AREAS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FAIRLY NARROW WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DEVELOP. UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO, UM, Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS, UH, ALREADY. UH, BASICALLY THIS SORT OF JUST LAYS OUT, UH, THE SITE. THE, THE PROGRAMMING OF THE SITE INCLUDES TEN THREE STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, 396 UNITS TOTAL. UH, SOME WILL BE, UH, AT BELOW MARKET RATE HOUSING. SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. UH, THERE'S A CLUBHOUSE FACILITY WITH A POOL AND PLAZA ON THE SOUTH SIDE THERE. UM, IT INCLUDES THREE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS. THOSE ARE PARTIAL SEDIMENTATION BIOFILTRATION WITH STACKED DETENTION. UM, AND JUST A COUPLE OF, UH, CURIOUS THINGS ABOUT THIS. THE, THE NORTH SOUTH DRIVE THERE, UH, IS CALLED ZEMAN BOULEVARD. THAT IS A PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED STREET, BUT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED TO, UH, PUBLIC STREET STANDARDS. UM, AND THE LOCATION OF THAT ACCESS DRIVE WHERE IT TIES INTO FM 9 73 IS VERY SPECIFIC DUE TO OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WITH TDOT. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A VERY SMALL WINDOW THERE WHERE, UH, SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS ALLOWED THE DRIVEWAY TO BE PLACED. UM, SO THAT IS GONNA BE A SIGNALED INTERSECTION. AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY TALKED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THEY HAVE A MASTER PLAN GOING ON FOR WALTER REED LONG PARK THERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO RELOCATE THEIR NORTHERN DRIVE, GOING TO THE PARK TO, UH, LINE UP WITH OUR, UH, PROPOSED INTERSECTION THERE. SO, UM, I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THE SECONDARY AXIS THERE ON THE, ON THE RIGHT, KIND OF AT THE SOUTH SIDE. AS THAT COME IN, IT GOES UP TO WHAT'S CALLED TRAIL SIDE OF ESTATES BOULEVARD. THAT IS MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR JUST SERVING THE TRAIL SIDE OF STATE'S NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US. THAT IS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT ONLY. WE WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS. UH, WE HAVE A GATE RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'LL, THAT'S JUST FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. UM, BUT IT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF, UH, WE HAVE OVER 200 UNITS. SO YOU NEED TO HAVE A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT THERE. UH, NEXT, UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO DAVID HAS ALREADY, UH, PRETTY MUCH EXPLAINED THE, UH, DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE, UH, THE CUT AREAS AND DARK RED. YOU SEE THE CUT THERE UP AGAINST, UH, ZEKMAN BOULEVARD ON THE RIGHT, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE. AND THEN ON THE WEST, THE DARK BLUE AREAS ARE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE FILL. UM, THERE IS, UH, WE'RE REQUESTING UP TO 16 FOOT OF FILL THAT IS REALLY JUST AT ONE PLACE. UH, IF YOU SEE THE CENTRALLY LOCATED POND THERE, UM, AND THERE'S SORT OF A BIG BULB OF BLUE THERE THAT IS AN EXIST, ONE OF THOSE EXISTING DRAINAGE AREA, UH, LIKE LITTLE DRAINAGE RAILS AND CROSSING OVER THAT, WHICH IT REALLY COULDN'T BE AVOIDED. WE HAVE TO CROSS OVER IT, BUT THAT REQUIRES A FAIR AMOUNT OF, UH, OF FILL AT THAT LOCATION. UH, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL PLANNED FOR THE AREA IMMEDIATELY UPSTREAM OF THERE. UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS DAVID SAID, WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF FOR QUITE SOME TIME TO TRY AND ENHANCE THE SITE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. UH, THE FIRST THING WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING IN 21, UH, EV CHARGERS, UH, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE SITE JUST TO ADDRESS THE OBVIOUS POSSIBILITY THAT, UH, A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES. NEXT SLIDE. UM, AND AS DAVID ALSO SAID, YOU CAN SEE HERE, HERE'S THE, BASICALLY THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE PLAN. UM, UH, AS HE MENTIONED, ALL PARKING SPACES WILL BE WITHIN A 50 FOOT RADIUS OF A SHADE TREE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING NOT REQUIRED BY CODE, BUT IT WILL ADD, OBVIOUSLY A GREAT DEAL OF ENHANCEMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH SHADE TO, UH, AND JUST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL, IT'S JUST A BETTER SITE ENVIRONMENTALLY THAN WOULD'VE BEEN OTHERWISE REQUIRED. UM, THE TWO AREAS THAT ARE BLOCKED OUT THERE, UH, PLAN NORTH IS TO THE WEST, NEXT TO THE CREEK, AND THEN PLAN SOUTH IS EAST ON THE UPSIDE OF THE HILL. THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE WE'RE DOING THE THREE TO 1 6 0 9 S SLOPE ENHANCEMENTS. THOSE ARE THREE TO ONE SLOPES AT THE AREAS OF CUT AND FILL. SO NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS THE ONE ADJACENT TO THE CREEK. UM, THE ENTIRE SLOPE WILL BE ENHANCED WITH, UM, THE 6 0 9 S MIXTURE, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, A GREAT NUMBER OF POLLINATOR PLANTS. UH, I THINK BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS, WE'LL HAVE AROUND 47,000 SQUARE FOOT OF POLLINATOR PLANTS IN THAT SEED MIXTURE. UH, AND THEN AT THE BASE OF [00:25:01] THE HILL, WE'LL PLANT THE ADDITIONAL TREES AND SHRUBS THAT ARE REQUIRED THROUGH THE 6 0 9 S UH, TABLE. UH, YOU DON'T REALLY PLANT THEM ON THE HILL HIMSELF, THAT TENDS TO UNDERMINE THE HILL. UH, SO AT THE BASE OF THE HILL, WE'LL DO THE ADDITIONAL, UH, TREES AND SHRUBS. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS JUST, UH, SORT OF SHOWING THE SAME THING ON THE, UH, AREA ADJACENT TO ZACKIN. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES ALONG ZEMAN ITSELF, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING HERE AT THE SLOPE ENHANCEMENTS TO 6 0 9 S WITH ALL THE POLLINATOR PLANTS. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN FINALLY, THE AREA I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THIS AREA HERE AT FIRST WAS GONNA BE A DOG PARK WITH A GREAT DEAL OF FILL. AND, UM, AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH THE CITY, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH A SUNKEN GARDEN. SO THAT THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ACTUAL SPACE WHERE ONE OF THOSE, UH, SORT OF MAIN DRAINAGE RES WAS. AND SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO KEEP WITHIN THE CHARACTER OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NATURAL CHARACTER OF THE LAND. UM, IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF A COMBINATION ON THE, THE LOWEST SIDE OF IT. YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT'S SORT OF A COLINE, UH, SORT OF ARTIFICIAL CREEK AREA WITH A LOT OF POLLINATOR PLANTS. WE HAVE, UM, 313 POLLINATOR PLANTS, UH, FIVE GALLON POLLINATOR PLANTS THERE. AND THEN THE UPPER AREA WITH THE TREES AND THE GRASS IS GONNA BE MORE OF LIKE A COMMUNITY GARDEN. WE'LL HAVE SOME RAISED, UH, BEDS AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE. AND SO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT PUT TOGETHER THIS RENDERING, UH, RENDERING TO SHOW WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE AT THE END. UM, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT THE LIMESTONE WALLS AROUND IT. UM, ON THE LEFT THERE, UH, THE UPPER RIGHT PANEL YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, SORT OF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AREA IS. AND, UH, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT LITTLE CREEK CHANNEL GOES WITH ALL THE POLLINATOR PLANTS. AND THAT CONVEYS SOME DRAINAGE FROM UPSTREAM AS WELL, WHICH ALL GOES INTO THE PONDS. SO, UH, WE'RE REAL HAPPY ABOUT THE SITE. I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO WORK WITHIN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LIMITED AREA OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, POTENTIAL THAT THE SITE HAS, UH, BUT STILL MEET THE PROGRAMMING REQUIREMENTS AND DO AS MANY, UH, SITE ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENTS AS AS WE COULD. SO THAT, UH, CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. SURE. UH, WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS FROM REMOTE COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN. YEAH, SO YOU'RE DOING ALL THIS AT 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER. UH, THE TOTAL, SO THE ENTIRE SITE IS, UH, 55.83 ACRES. IT STARTED AS 57.98 ACRES. WE DONATED 2.15 ACRES TO TXDOT FOR FM 9 73 IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON THEIR 2045 PLAN. SO OUT OF 55.83 ACRES OF OUR CURRENT GROWTH SITE AREA, WE HAVE UNDER 20 ACRES OF IMPERVIOUS COVER, SO WELL UNDER 50%. OH, NICE. OKAY. AND, UM, YOU MENTIONED, UM, YOU HAVE SOME BELOW MARKET HOUSING. IS THAT LIKE 10% AT 80% FA, MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, OR, UH, ARTHUR, DO YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE VALUES ARE? 80% OF MARKET. IS THAT FOR THE, IS THAT FOR A PERCENTAGE OF THE, UH, UNITS OR A, WELL, WHEN THE, WHEN THE CITY DOES IT, IT'S USUALLY LIKE 10% AT 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. UH, RIGHT RENTAL. YEAH. UH, YEAH, THE, UH, CLIENT REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE. HE INDICATED IT WAS 10% OF THE UNITS AT 80% OF OF MARKET. ALRIGHT, WELL THANKS. THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. THANKS. THANK YOU. I'M DONE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN. WE'LL COME AROUND THE HORN HERE. COMMISSIONER CHEN, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. THANKS RASHI. HEY, Y'ALL APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. UM, ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR LIKE, UH, SOLAR PANELS ON ANY OF THE BUILDINGS? HAVE Y'ALL LOOKED INTO THAT? UM, I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AT FIRST AND HAD AN AREA FOR SOLAR PANELS. UM, IT WAS JUST DETERMINED DURING THE PROGRAMMING THAT THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED, UH, FOR VARIOUS REASONS. I, I'M KIND OF ON BOARD WITH YOU ON THAT, I THINK AS MANY SOLAR PANELS AS POSSIBLE. BUT, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO DO THAT. UH, YEAH. AND THEN ALSO, IS THERE ANY SORT OF, UH, LIKE MASS TRANSIT STOPS NEARBY? I KNOW THAT THE 20 GOES OUT TO THE, OR THE NEW RAPID ROUTE. I FORGET WHAT, IT'S 8 37 MAYBE, UH, SORRY, CAT METRO PEOPLE, IF I MESSED THAT UP. BUT, UH, I THINK IT GOES OUT TO THE EXPO CENTER, BUT I THINK THE EXPO CENTER IS A LITTLE BIT WEST OF THIS SITE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. UH, SO THIS HAS BEEN LOOKED AT, UM, THIS PROJECT IS REALLY SORT OF THE BEGINNING PIECE OF SOMETHING CALLED THE WINDING TRAILS MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY. MM. UM, THAT IS BASICALLY 268 ACRES IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY AND BASICALLY SOUTH OF US AND WEST OF US, KIND OF SURROUNDING DECKER CREEK AND OLD DECKER CREEK. THAT IS LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED BY NOT THIS DEVELOPER. THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA SELL THE PROPERTY AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WILL DO, UH, DESIGN THE REST OF IT. BUT WE HAVE DONE SORT OF SOME BASIC CONCEPTS OF WHAT THAT MASTER PLAN LOOKS LIKE. UM, AND THAT INCLUDES A MASS TRANSIT STOP, UH, THROUGH CA UH, CAP METRO, UH, [00:30:01] AS WELL AS, LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER, THE, UH, CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE PARKS, UH, YOU KNOW, BOTH, UH, VEHICULAR UH, CONNECTIVITY TO THE NORTH SIDE OF 9 73 THERE, SO THEY CAN CONNECT INTO THE PARK, BUT THEY ALSO EXPRESS INTEREST IN PUTTING SOME TRAIL SYSTEMS DOWN THROUGH OUR, OUR CREEK AREAS. 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH AREA OF, OF THE CREEK THAT'S, UH, EITHER FLOODPLAIN OR INUNDATION ZONE. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME TRAILS THERE. AND SO WHEN WE GET TO THE MASTER PLAN, OR THERE, I SHOULD SAY THE REST, REST OF THE PROJECT, WE'LL BE TALKING TO PARKS ABOUT HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE, UH, THOSE CONSIDERATIONS. YEAH. AND THEN, UH, MY APOLOGIES IF I MISSED IT, BUT WHAT'S LIKE THE, THE HEIGHT OF THESE BUILDINGS? LIKE HOW MANY FLOORS ARE YOU LOOKING AT? UH, THEY'RE THREE STORY 34 FEET TOPS. GOTCHA. UM, I THINK THOSE ARE MY ONLY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER FLURY? UH, YEAH, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. UH, FIRST QUESTION MIGHT BE MORE FOR MY WATERSHED COLLEAGUES ON JUST PROCESS. UM, SO WHEN A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT COMES TO SEEK A, A, A VARIANCE TO CODE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL WORK WITH THEM, GO BACK AND FORTH, AND SO THEY'VE, THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE, UM, PLAN MORE OR LESS, UH, THAT, IS THAT HOW, UH, WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT? UH, YEAH, LIST JOHNSTON INTERIM ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER WATERSHED PROTECTION? UH, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. I MEAN, WE DO TALK THROUGH, UM, POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY COULD CONSIDER AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME, UH, GET DISCARDED AFTER WE DECIDED IT WON'T WORK. AND SOME GET ADOPTED. LIKE SOME OF, YOU KNOW, HE MENTIONED SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY'VE MADE TO THE, THE PROJECT TO REDUCE THE IMPACT. BUT, UM, YEAH, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. UM, I THINK I SAW ON PLANS, JUST KINDA CURIOUS, UM, IS THERE SOME PARK LAND SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE AND AND HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT? WELL, UM, CAN YOU, IS THERE A WAY TO BRING THE PRESENTATION BACK UP? YES. UH, GO BACK THREE OR FOUR SLIDES. KEEP GOING. . YEAH, RIGHT. UH, ONE HIGHER. THERE WE GO. SO, UH, YEAH, THAT ONE THERE. THANK YOU. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING IS CONCENTRATED SOUTH OF THAT. SO THERE'S OLD DECKER CREEK ALONG THE NORTH SIDE AND THE WEST SIDE. AND THEN ALL THE HOMES ARE SORT OF CONCENTRATED IN THE CENTER THERE, UH, ALONG ZEMAN BOULEVARD AND THEN IMMEDIATELY WEST OF IT. UM, BUT YOU SEE THAT BIG POOL, FOR INSTANCE, THAT IS AN ENORMOUS IMPOUNDMENT RIGHT THERE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO ALL THE SETBACKS FROM THAT. SO YOU CAN SEE JUST HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLANNING SOME, UH, BASICALLY SOME MODE TRAILS IN THOSE AREAS. BUT ALL THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, UP AROUND THAT POOL AND THEN OUT TO THE WEST, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE OUT TO, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE, ALONG THE CREEK ITSELF, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF UNDEVELOPED LAND, UH, THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO. AND IT'S REALLY NICE. IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, POST OAK SAVANNAH, IT'S THE, THE, THE CREEK ACTUALLY ITSELF IS VERY HEAVILY TREED, AND SINCE THEY'RE POST OAKS, THEY'LL CHANGE COLOR IN THE FALL. RIGHT. SO I THINK FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE UNITS LOOKING DOWN OVER THE CREEK IN NOVEMBER, IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY, PRETTY NICE . COOL. UH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS THAT IF, IF THE RESIDENTS THERE HAD ACCESS TO THE CREEK OR THERE WAS A HARD FENCE, UM, THERE. NOT AT ALL. NO, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ANY FENCING OR ANYTHING. THE ONLY FENCE WILL BE A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE ALONG THE EAST SIDE BETWEEN OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THE TRAIL SIDE OF STATE'S NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT WAY WE PROVIDE SOME PRIVACY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT THERE WON'T BE ANY, UH, FENCES, SO TO SPEAK, WITHIN OUR PRO PROJECT. UM, SO I'M GLAD YOU CALLED OUT THE COLOR OF THE POST OAKS. THEY'RE ONE OF MY FAVORITE TREES, AND I KNOW THIS IS, UH, I BELIEVE JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE THEIR, THEIR HABITAT OR RIGHT ON THE EDGE. SO THEY'RE, UM, UH, UNIQUE. UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY YOU'RE TAKING? ARE YOU REPLANNING MITIGATING FOR THAT AT ALL? WELL, UM, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, THE EXISTING UPLANDS AREA WHERE WE'RE DEVELOPING IS, IT'S KIND OF SCATTERED. IT'S NOT VERY DENSE. UH, THE DENSITY OF THE TREES IS MUCH MORE DOWN ALONG THE CREEK ITSELF. UH, THE AREA WHERE WE'RE TAKING OUT THE TREES, WE'RE PLANTING PROBABLY 50 TO 60% OF THE, THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT WILL BE PLANTING NEW SHADE TREES. SO, AND, UM, JUST TO, UH, POINT OUT THAT BEING IN THE ETJ EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, UM, TREE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT RE OR DO NOT APPLY IN THE ETJ. AND SO THEY ARE, UH, BY PLANTING AND MEETING LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED BY CODE. UM, SO IF IT WAS WITHIN, UH, CITY LIMITS, THEN THE TREE PROTECTION WOULD APPLY. AND ARE THERE, SO ARE THERE LIKELY HERITAGE TREES OUT THERE THAT WE'RE LOSING? UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK THERE. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A HERITAGE TREE BEING 25 INCHES AND ABOVE. YEAH. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING [00:35:01] QUITE THAT LARGE THERE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SCRUBBY THAN THAT. UH, THE POST OAKS, UNLESS THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY OLD, DON'T TEND TO GET TO THAT, TO THAT DIAMETER. UM, RIGHT. YOU'LL SEE THOSE MAINLY WITH THE, THE, THE LIVE OAKS AND, AND PECANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, IT WAS MAINLY, UH, JUST KIND OF A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CHAPARRAL, JUNIPER, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN SOME SCATTERED, UH, POST OAKS IN BETWEEN THEM. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES. I DON'T REMEMBER COMING ACROSS A TREE AND BEING LIKE, OH MY GOD, THIS IS JUST THE MOST AMAZING TREE I'VE EVER SEEN. I MEAN, IT'S, IT IS VERY NICE, BUT NOTHING THAT WOULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF A HERITAGE. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. GREAT COMMISSIONER. LUCKY LUKE. SORRY. THANK YOU. UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR AFFORDABLE, UM, UNITS. YOU SAID THERE'S 396 UNITS TOTAL. CORRECT. THAT MEANS THERE'S GONNA BE MAYBE 40 AFFORDABLE UNITS, BUT WELL, 40 YEAH. AT 80%. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, 80% OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIAN INCOME TO QUALIFY FOR, FOR BEING THERE. RIGHT. UM, ANY IDEA IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF UNITS THEY'RE GONNA BE? ARE, ARE THEY GONNA, ARE THERE GONNA BE ANY THREE BEDROOM UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE? UH, MY COLLEAGUE CAN ANSWER THAT ARTHUR THREE BEDROOM. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? UH, AND STATE YOUR NAME. THANK YOU. YES. MY NAME IS ARTHUR WALSTON. I'M WITH, UH, Z MODULAR, WHO'S THE DEVELOPER, UM, FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS. I KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT WE'LL HAVE STUDIO ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS AVAILABLE AT 80% OF MARKET THREE BEDROOM. I'M NOT CERTAIN, BECAUSE OUR UNIT MIX IS HEAVILY SKEWED TO, TO THE SMALLER UNITS. AND I'D HAVE TO, TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT, BUT I KNOW ALL THE OTHER ONES, WE WILL HAVE, UM, AFFORDABLE UNITS AVAILABLE. I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE, UH, I'M ALSO ON THE MUELLER COMMISSION AND 25% OF OUR, OF OUR, UH, UNITS IN, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE, HAVE ALL BEEN AFFORDABLE. AND THE ONE THING THAT'S MISSING IS ONES THAT FAMILIES CAN LIVE IN THAT MAYBE HAVE TWO OR THREE CHILDREN AND THE THREE BEDROOM UNITS JUST DON'T EXIST ANYWHERE. EVERYBODY IS OVERLOOKING THAT. IT TURNS OUT ALMOST EVERYWHERE. SO I WAS HOPEFUL THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY MIGHT BUILD ONE OR TWO. I'M NOT ASKING FOR MUCH, BUT, UH, THE, I'M CHALLENGING YOU TO THINK LARGER. OKAY. CERTAINLY. AND I CAN, I CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK TO OUR ASSET MANAGER WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, SETS RENTS AND, AND DOES THE UNIT BREAKDOWNS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I DO WANNA POINT OUT THOUGH, WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, UM, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE PURVIEW OVER THAT NECESSARILY. IT'S GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE AND A VERY IMPORTANT, AND I, I, YOU KNOW, AGREE WITH YOU THERE, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONDITION RELATED TO THE TYPE OF UNITS. UH OH, OKAY. ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL LEVEL, WHAT KIND OF SHADE TREES ARE YOU PLANTING? UM, I WISH MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WAS HERE. UM, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE PRIMARILY, UH, JUST OAKS. UH, JUST A MIXTURE OF DECIDUOUS TREES DEPENDING, UM, IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, CANOPIES ALONG, YOU KNOW, LIKE CARPORT, YOU KNOW, CANOPIES. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SHADE TREES THAT CAN FIT BETWEEN TWO CANOPIES ON EITHER SIDE SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR RIDICULOUS 10 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN A SHADE TREE IS JUST LIKE TRYING TO GROW BETWEEN A CANOPY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SURE. YEAH. SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, JUST A MIXTURE OF THE DECIDUOUS TREES. UH, IF YOU COULD BRING BACK, UH, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT HE'S ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE THAT PARTICULAR INFORMATION ON THESE SLIDES HERE. THAT'S JUST PART OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH I DON'T HAVE, UM, HERE, UH, GO TOO FORWARD. YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE, ZOOM IN. UH, NOT THAT ONE. GOING BACK UP TO THE ONE JUST BEFORE THAT. YES. THAT ONE. ZOOM IN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN JUST ANYWHERE JUST IN THE SAND. WELL, THAT'S BEING WORKED OUT. I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT FOR LANDSCAPING, THERE IS A, A LIST OF ACCEPTABLE TREES THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICAL, UH, NATIVE AND ADAPTIVE TREES. SO WHATEVER, UM, WHATEVER THEY'LL PROPOSE WOULD HAVE TO COME OFF OF THAT LIST. SO YEAH, I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT PLANNING, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY PALM TREES OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE GROW GREEN GUIDE, IT OBVIOUSLY WOULD COME FROM THERE. WELL THEN I'LL RECOMMEND A CEDAR ELM TO GO IN BETWEEN THOSE PARKING SPACES. WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD TIME FOR THAT. I MEAN, THIS IS, WE STILL HAVE TIME TO MASSAGE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, RIGHT. WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL A, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME OUT FROM, UH, FROM PERMITTING IT. SO IF THEY TEND TO GROW TALL AND MAYBE ONLY NOT SO 30 FEET WIDE. YEAH. [00:40:01] IT'S ALL NICE SHADED CANOPIES, YOU KNOW, . TRUE. SO, ALRIGHT. NO, WE'LL SEE YOUR ELMS. GOT IT. ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GLI, THAT'S IT. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER THEO, I GOT NO QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT. AND COMMISSIONER PRIMER? I'M FINE, THANK YOU. I CAN THINK SOME UP IF YOU NO, I'M JUST INSIST JUST CHECKING. AND COMMISSIONER KRUGER. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR BEING HERE. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A SHOUT OUT FOR THE EV CHARGING STATIONS. THOSE ARE SO APPRECIATED AND FORWARD LOOKING. ALSO, THE RAISED BEDS AND THE COMMUNITY GARDEN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS COMMISSION AS PART OF THE AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE FOOD PLAN. AND THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT THAT I CAN THINK OF WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING IT HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT. I THINK THAT'LL BE GREAT. UM, ONE THING I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT, WHICH I KNOW ISN'T NECESSARILY GERMANE TO THE CUT AND FILL, BUT, UM, ARE YOU DOING ANY DOWNCAST LIGHTING AND BIRD FRIENDLY BUILDING DESIGN THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? UM, I KNOW THAT ALL THE, THE, UH, FIXTURES FOR THE LIGHTS WILL ALL BE FULLY SHIELDED, CUTOFF FIXTURES, UM, AS YOU KNOW, BOTH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ITSELF IN THE APARTMENT AREA, BUT THEN ESPECIALLY ALONG ZEMAN BOULEVARD, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING THE CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARD, UH, DOWN CUT LIGHTING AS, AS WOULD NORMALLY BE REQUIRED IF YOU WERE DOING A PUBLIC STREET IN THE CITY. UM, AUSTIN ENERGY WOULD, YOU KNOW, USES THOSE FIXTURES AND WE'RE GONNA, WE BASICALLY WANNA MAKE IT LOOK IDENTICAL TO A CITY OF AUSTIN STREET SO THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE THE SAME FIXTURE THAT THEY USE AND USE THAT. SO. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ON THIS COMMISSION IS CREATIVE WAYS TO, UH, BE FRIENDLIER TO BIRDS IN OUR DESIGNS. OF COURSE THERE'S NEW CITY CODE COMING OUT A AROUND THAT AS WELL, SO I APPRECIATE ANY THOUGHT ON THAT AREA. UM, FOR THE CUT AND FILL, HOW MUCH OF THAT IS STAYING ON SITE? WE, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, CUT EITHER TOO MUCH CUT OR TOO MUCH FILL IS AN AMA IS A MASSIVE EXPENSE TO THE DEVELOPER. SO ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS WE DO, OBVIOUSLY IS TO JUST TRY AND BALANCE THOSE. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO, UM, LOOK AT THE TYPE OF CUT MATERIAL THAT YOU HAVE. MAYBE IT HAS TO BE MOISTURE CONDITIONED. CERTAINLY UNDER BUILDING PADS IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK AND YOU HAVE TO BRING IN SELECT FILL FOR THOSE. UH, BUT I THINK WE'VE BALANCED THIS SITE PRETTY WELL. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE CUT AT SECKMAN GOING INTO THE HILL, AND THEN EACH BUILDING IS AT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FINISH FLOOR, AND SO IT SORT OF TERRACES ITSELF DOWN THE HILL UNTIL IT GETS TO THE FILL. IF I HAD TO GUESS, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FILL THAN THERE IS CUT. UM, JUST BECAUSE, UH, LIKE I SAID, THESE LITTLE DRAINAGE AREAS WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO FILL IN, BUT THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF MINOR THERE. SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY WELL BALANCED, I'D SAY WITHIN 10%, YOU KNOW, AT THE MOST. SO YOU MIGHT BE BRINGING A MARGINAL AMOUNT OF FILL ON SITE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I DO JUST WANNA NOTE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOOKS PRETTY EXTENSIVE. UM, SO CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW YOU CALCULATED THAT AND YOUR PLANS? UM, THE PARKING USUALLY, UH, THERE'S A RATIO. WE BASICALLY STARTED WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKING DESIGN, UM, RATIOS AS DESCRIBED IN THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA, MANUAL STUDIOS, POINT FIVES, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE BEDROOM, ONE TWO BEDROOMS, 1.5, UH, YOU KNOW, THREE BEDROOMS, 2.5, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THAT'S WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH OUR COUNT MM-HMM . UM, WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T TRY AND OVER PARK IT. UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE ITERATIVE PROCESS WITH CITY STAFF, UM, EVERYWHERE YOU SEE AN, UH, A SHADE TREE WITHIN THE PARKING AREAS, THAT WAS JUST ANOTHER SPACE. AND SO WE'VE PROBABLY ADDED, I DON'T KNOW, 40, YOU KNOW, TREES AND LOST 40 SPACES THERE. MM-HMM . SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY PROGRAMMATICALLY YOU NEED, I DON'T WANNA SAY AS MUCH PARKING AS POSSIBLE, BUT YOU KIND OF NEED IT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE A PRACTICAL, IT NEEDS TO BE PRACTICAL FOR THE RESIDENTS, OBVIOUSLY. SO, UM, WELL, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY RIGHT IN ABOUT THE CENTER OF WHERE WE SHOULD BE. WE HAD MORE PARKING BEFORE WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH TO GET BY. IF WE HAD TOO MUCH LESS, IT WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PARK MM-HMM . SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE, WE, WE, UH, ENDED UP. OKAY. AND IN THINKING ABOUT THE TREES, ARE YOU ALL CONSIDERING TRANSPLANTING ANY, OR ARE YOU PLANTING NEW FOR THE 50 YOU MENTIONED? NO, IT'S ALL PLANTING NEW. UM, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPLANTS, I'VE HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE WITH TRANSPLANTS OVER THE YEARS AND IT'S REALLY TRICKY. IT TENDS TO SHOCK THE TREE REALLY BADLY. AND THERE'S A, IT KIND OF A, A LOW PERCENTAGE THAT IT'S REALLY GONNA THRIVE IN ITS NEW LOCATION. UM, WE TRY, WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT WITH SOME [00:45:01] HERITAGE TREES THAT WERE SITTING UNDER BIG HOTEL PADS, FOR INSTANCE, AND THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO PUT THE HOTEL. LET'S MOVE THIS TREE AND SEE HOW IT DOES. WE DID THAT WITH THREE TREES, TWO OF THEM DIDN'T LAST TWO YEARS MM-HMM . UM, GENERALLY THEY'RE OKAY, BUT THEN IF THERE'S A FREEZE, FOR INSTANCE, THE TREE, IT'LL JUST SHOCK THE TREE DOWN. RIGHT. OR IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, IT, IT, THERE'S JUST, YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE BY PUTTING IN NEW TREES, UH, THAN YOU CAN OUT OF TRYING TO PRESERVE A TREE. UNLESS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A HERITAGE TREE THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO TRY AND PRESERVE, BUT IT'S BETTER TO JUST TRY AND DESIGN AROUND IT. MM-HMM . I'M CURIOUS. YEAH, MAYBE TO HEAR FROM CITY STAFF. LIZ, I SEE YOU NODDING YOUR HEAD. I KNOW, UH, WHEN THE CITY ARBORIST WAS HERE, I THINK LAST TIME SHE TALKED ABOUT THE HIGH SUCCESS RATE FOR TRANSPLANTS THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN SPECIFIC TO HERITAGE, HERITAGE TREES, BUT WHAT I'VE HEARD AT LEAST ANECDOTALLY FROM TREE FOLKS IS THAT THE VIABILITY AFTER FIVE YEARS OF PLANTING NEW TREES IS ALSO INCREDIBLY LOW. MAYBE AROUND 10%. AND I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT AS A COMMISSION IS, UH, HOW DO WE MEASURE, YOU KNOW, THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM VIABILITY OF PLANTING? BECAUSE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IF YOU CUT DOWN 10 TREES AND PLANT ANOTHER 10, YOU'RE STILL GONNA BE AT A LOSS BECAUSE PROBABLY ONLY ONE OR TWO OF THOSE WILL BE VIABLE AFTER FIVE YEARS. UM, SO ANYWAY, LIZ. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? YEAH, AND, UM, TRANSPLANTING I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR REALLY, UH, HIGH QUALITY AND IMPORTANT SPECIMENS THAT YOU REALLY WANNA TRY TO PRESERVE. THERE'VE BEEN A NUMBER, FOR EXAMPLE, ON UT'S CAMPUS, A REALLY OLD KIND OF HERITAGE OAKS. UM, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF TREE, UM, TRANSPLANTS FOR WATERLOO PARK. UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BIG LIVE OAKS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, UH, STUDY THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE TREE IS EVEN STRUCTURALLY SOUND, UH, ENOUGH TO MOVE. THERE'S ISSUES WITH GETTING, UM, THE REALLY BIG EQUIPMENT THERE TO MOVE IT. THERE'S, UM, AND THEN PLANTING IT AND THEN MAINTAINING IT OVER TIME. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, UM, CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT ARE CITY PROJECTS, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OVER THE MAINTENANCE OF IT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE THIS THAT'S IN THE ETJ. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO ARBORIST REVIEW, FOR EXAMPLE. SO THE CITY ARBORIST HASN'T EVEN LOOKED AT IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED. SO I WOULD SAY IN A, A CASE LIKE THIS, UM, UNLESS WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A TREE THAT WE REALLY, REALLY IT'S SPECIAL AND SHOULD, UM, HAVE THOSE RESOURCES PUT TOWARDS IT, UM, I THINK IT'S BETTER TO SPEND THOSE RESOURCES ON NEW, UH, NEW FOREST. THANK YOU. OH YEAH, I CAN ADD SOMETHING. UH, MY QUALIFICATIONS INCLUDE, I'M A CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL AIST AND I'VE WORKED WITH THREES A LOT IN THE PAST. AND SO, UM, THE, THE POST OAKS HAVE REALLY TEND TO ROOT SYSTEMS, SO THERE'S REAL SENSITIVE OF ANY DEVELOPMENT AROUND THEM AND REALLY WOULD SUGGEST TRANSPLANTING THEM BE HIGHLY UNLIKELY. AND, UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE ABOUT THE CEDAR ELMS JUST TALKING WITH, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY, UM, TREE WORKERS, CEDAR ELMS ARE THEIR LEAST FAVORITE TREE. 'CAUSE YOU MIGHT NOTICE IN THE STORM EVENTS, THEY LOSE AN AWFUL LOT OF BRANCHES. SO ANECDOTAL INFORMATION FOR YOU THERE ABOUT THOSE. BUT THEY ARE CLOSING, INCLUDING CHICO PIN OAKS, I BELIEVE, IN THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH SORT APPROXIMATES POST OAKS. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY DURABLE AND THEY ARE INCLUDING CEDAR ELMS IN, UH, IN THEIR PLANTING PLANT. THANK YOU. I HAVE JUST TWO MORE POINTS. UM, I'M, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT FOLKS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE CREEK, BUT THAT ALSO BRINGS UP FOR ME PET WASTE AND THINKING ABOUT WATER QUALITY. SO ARE YOU ALL GOING TO HAVE PET WASTE DISPOSAL STATIONS AROUND? YES. UM, CAN YOU BRING THE PRESENTATION BACK UP PLEASE? UH, SO GO BACK TWO SLIDES. UM, NO, THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN, YOU CAN LEAVE IT THERE. UH, ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UH, ON THE GRAPHIC. SO YOU SEE THERE. YEAH, THAT'S GOOD RIGHT THERE. UM, YOU SEE THERE AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER THERE'S KIND OF A BIG PARKING AREA AND THEN RIGHT AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT IS OUR DOG PARK. AND SO WE HAVE A, A DEDICATED DOG PARK. IT'LL BE FENCED IN, IT'LL HAVE A LITTLE PAVILION, IT'LL HAVE A LITTLE, UH, YOU KNOW, A HOSE BIB, SO, SO PEOPLE CAN, CAN WATER THEIR DOGS. AS FAR AS SPECIFIC AREAS OUT IN THE CREEK THAT'LL HAVE DOG WASTE DISPOSAL THINGS, I THINK THAT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE MORE UP TO THE RESIDENTS. BUT I GUESS I'D RECOMMEND ARTHUR THAT WE, AS PART OF THE DOG PARK, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE DOG WASTE, UH, YOU KNOW, LITTLE, YOU KNOW, MACHINES THAT WILL, THAT'LL, YOU KNOW, A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GET THEM. AND THEN ALSO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DROP IT OFF AND MAYBE JUST A FEW RECEPTACLES AROUND THE UH, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST AROUND THE COMMUNITY THERE SHOULD BE ADDITIONAL RECEPTACLES AROUND THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. AS DESIGNED. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. OKAY, LAST THING. UM, YEAH, THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE UPLAND SEED MIX. [00:50:01] UM, HERE AGAIN IS WHERE I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT KIND OF VIABILITY. 'CAUSE IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND ORGANIZATIONAL EXPERIENCE, YOU CAN THROW OUT SEED ONE YEAR, BUT IF THE TIMING ISN'T RIGHT, THE CONDITIONS AREN'T RIGHT, YOU KNOW, THOSE MIGHT NOT COME UP. SO IT MIGHT TAKE RE-SEEDING IN THE FALL THE NEXT YEAR. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR COMMITMENT LEVEL TO, TO PUTTING OUT SEEDS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE NATIVE PLANTS GIVE A CHANCE TO GET A CHANCE TO ESTABLISH VERSUS HAVING OTHER NON-NATIVES COME IN. WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO PUT IN THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION NOTES IN THE SITE PLAN ITSELF. SO THERE'S, I GUESS A COUPLE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS HERE. UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DO IS THE KIND OF THE MASS GRADING. AND SO WE'LL DO A BUNCH OF THE SORT OF THE ROUGH CUT AND, UH, THE ROUGH FILL. AND THEN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE THREE TO ONE SLOPE ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE STABILIZED IMMEDIATELY. SO WE PUT DOWN THE EROSION CONTROL MATTING, WHICH IS BASICALLY A, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THIS SORT OF A MAT THAT STAYS OVER THERE. IT'S BIODEGRADABLE, BUT IT'LL KEEP EVERYTHING, UH, YOU PUT THAT DOWN OR, UH, IF YOU KNOW A COMING UP, SOMETIMES YOU'LL PUT STRAW DOWN. BUT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EROSION CONTROL MATTING IS USUALLY A GOOD IDEA. AND THEN FOR THE 6 0 9 S SEEDING, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE SPECIFIC NOTES IN THERE ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TIME OF YEAR. I MEAN, THE CONSTRUCTION IS AT LEAST 12 TO 15 MONTHS, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE SEASONALLY WHEN THAT SEEDING GOES IN, MAKE SURE IT'S PROPERLY IRRIGATED AND ESTABLISHED. AND THEN, UM, IT SHOULD HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF THRIVE OVER TIME. THE IDEA IS TO NOT MOW IT OVER TIME JUST TO ALLOW IT TO GO, JUST KIND OF BE WILD, JUST BE A WILD PRAIRIE SLOPE ESSENTIALLY. UM, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THE, THE CONDITIONS ARE CRITICAL. YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT IN AUGUST BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL JUST DRY OUT. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S GONNA BE ON US TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS, UH, IN THE PLANS AND THEN FOLLOWED DURING CONSTRUCTION, UM, ON YOU AND ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTOR. UM, THEY WILL DO MONTHLY INSPECTIONS AND THEY HAVE, THERE'S STANDARD NOTES THAT, UM, SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE A, A SITE MORE THAN LIKE 10 FEET BY 10 FEET THAT IS NOT VEGETATED BEFORE THEY WILL, UM, DO A FINAL, UM, CO AND GIVE BACK THEIR FISCAL. SO EVERY APPLICANT HAS TO PROVIDE FISCAL POSTING FOR EROSION AND SEDIMENTATION CONTROLS INCLUDING, UM, NATIVE SEEDING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS HELD UNTIL PERMANENT VEGETATIVE STABILIZATION IS REACHED. SO YEAH, THAT, THAT IS ON EVERY PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UM, JUST, I FEEL LIKE I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS. IS THERE, I MEAN, THIS LOOKS LIKE PRETTY HEALTHY POST OAK SAVANNAH, BUT IS THERE ANY OF THE TOPOGRAPHY THAT IS MANMADE FROM DIMMING OF THE LAKE OR FROM THE BUILDING OF, UM, THIS ROAD 9 73? UM, NOT SO MUCH FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF 9 73, YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGE UP THERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT OF THAT IMAGE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS. THAT'S WHERE OLD DECKER CREEK GOES UNDER 9 73. SO IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF NORTHEAST OF OUR PROPERTY. THEN IT'LL GO THROUGH OUR PROPERTY INTO A CULVERT AND THEN GO THROUGH DOWN TO THE DAM. UM, THAT DAM KIND OF HAS AN INTERESTING HISTORY. IF YOU GO BACK 30 YEARS, THAT LAKE WAS ONE FIFTH OF THE SIZE THAT IT IS NOW. AND I THINK SOMETIME JUST OVER THE LAST 10, MAYBE 15 YEARS, THEY, THEY RE, THEY REBUILT THE DAM BUILT IT MUCH BIGGER. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY. IT WASN'T LIKE THEY WERE GRAZING OR SOMETHING OUT THERE. WHO KNEW, WHO KNOWS WHY THEY NEEDED TO DO THAT, BUT THEY DID IT. SO ONCE THEY INCREASED THE SIZE OF THE IMPOUNDMENT, IT CREATED A MUCH BIGGER, MORE PERMANENT LAKE THERE. OH, THANK YOU. UH, I'M SHOWING IN ONE OF THE BACKUP MATERIALS, THE DRIVEWAY NUMBER ONE CROSSING THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S PART OF THE REQUEST. CAN Y'ALL SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND? THANK YOU. UH, MIKE MCDOUGAL, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY PROGRAM MANAGER, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WAS UPDATED A FEW YEARS BACK TO ALLOW AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE FOR A DRIVEWAY, A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, A PRIVATE STREET TO CROSS THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. AND THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND ONE REQUIREMENT IS THAT IT HAS TO BE NECESSARY TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. AND SO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT DAVID AND, AND DAVID, MICHAEL AND LIZ JOHNSON AND I SPOKE ABOUT WITH TED MCCONAUGHEY ABOUT CAN, DOES THE DRIVEWAY NEED TO BE HERE? CAN YOU PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE TO AVOID THE CRITICAL, UM, TURNS OUT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THERE FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS. AND I THINK TED SPOKE TO THAT TO SOME EXTENT AS WELL. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY. SO DOES MUST THE DRIVEWAY BE THERE? MUST IT BE A CERTAIN WIDTH? CAN WE MAKE THE DRIVEWAY NARROWER? SO WE, UH, THE DRIVEWAY DOES NEED TO BE IN THAT LOCATION. UM, AND THE WIDTH IS AS NARROW AS AS UH, IT CAN BE FOR THE PROJECT. AND, UM, AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, CULVERT DESIGNS. UH, TYPICALLY, UH, UH, AN OPEN BOTTOM CULVERT IS REQUIRED TO, TO AVOID, UH, EROSION DOWNSTREAM OF THE CULVERT. SO, UM, THE [00:55:01] PLACEMENT OF THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY ACROSS THE CRITICAL, AS WELL AS THE DESIGN OF THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T APPEAR AS A, UH, VARIANCE REQUEST. BUT IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, . THANK YOU. CAN YOU SPEAK JUST GENERALLY ON THIS, JUST 'CAUSE THIS IS SORT OF NEW TO ME ON UNDERSTANDING WHAT CAN CAUSE A VARIANCE LIKE THIS. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL SORT OF, UM, ECOLOGICAL MITIGATIONS THAT CAN, THAT STAFF WOULD TEND TO PUT FORWARD FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I THINK WE HAVE, UH, I THINK WE'VE ASKED FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. YEAH. SO I THINK, UM, FOR ER, UM, WATERSHED REVIEW STAFF LOOKED AT THAT, UM, JOHN CLEMENT AND THE, UH, WETLAND BIOLOGIST AND THEY, THEY WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH, UH, TED AND HIS TEAM TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE, KIND OF THE LEAST DISRUPTIVE AND, AND IS APPROPRIATELY RE-VEGETATED. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE DISCUSSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ACROSS OUR AGENDAS RECENTLY, UM, CAN STAFF SPEAK TO, AND THIS JUST MIGHT NOT EVEN BE APPLICABLE HERE, BUT IS ANY OF THIS ADDITIONALLY IN THE NEW POTENTIAL EROSION HAZARD ZONE? UM, NO. SO THE EROSION HAZARD ZONE THAT RECENTLY GOT UPDATED WAS, UM, ONLY FOR THE COLORADO RIVER. UM, THIS IS, I MEAN, THERE IS AN EROSION HAZARD ZONE ALONG THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE THAT IS, UM, THE EXISTING 100 FOOT. AND SO THE CROSSING OF, OF THE, THE CREEK IS DESIGNED WITH EROSION HAZARD ZONE IN MIND, SO. GOT IT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OH, COMMISSIONER BRIMER BACK TO YOU. YOU EMBARRASSED ME BY SHAMED ME INTO ASKING, GOING TO THE LAST PHOTO YEAH. INTO ASKING A QUESTION. UH, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT YOU'RE, I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE BASE OF A DAM AND I HEARD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU WORKING WITH TRAVIS COUNTY WITH REGARD TO THIS. UH, COULD YOU REVIEW THAT A LITTLE BIT AGAIN, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS, JUST READ, REDEFINE THE CONCEPT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, FLOOD ZONE WHEN YOU BUILD IT A SO THERE'S DAM. ABSOLUTELY. SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS. UH, I THINK WE'RE ALL BASICALLY AWARE OF A STANDARD A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE IN A FEMA MAP. UM, A LOT OF THOSE FLOODPLAINS ARE BEING REMAPPED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IN 2017 WE HAD HURRICANE HARVEY. SO NOW WHAT YOU DO IS CALLED ATLAS 14, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE ROBUST AND CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATION OF WHAT THE FLOODPLAIN IS. BASICALLY, THEY, THEY'RE TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FLOODPLAIN APPEARS TO BE HIGHER, UM, BECAUSE THE INTENSITIES OF THE RAINFALL. SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHERE YOUR A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN COMES FROM. SINCE WE'RE AT THE BASE OF A DAM, WE HAVE THIS SEPARATE CONSIDERATION, UM, IF THERE WAS TO BE A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF THE DAM. NOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FAILURES IF THE, IF THE DAM LEAKS A LITTLE BIT, THAT NEVER CREATES ANY KIND OF FLOOD PROBLEM. BUT IF IT, UH, ALL OF A SUDDEN JUST AFTER 80 YEARS THERE'S A, A BIG PLACE WHERE IT JUST KIND OF WASHES OUT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DAM, YOU CAN HAVE A VERY, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT RELEASE OF WATER IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. SO THAT CREATES THE, UH, WHAT'S CALLED THE INUNDATION, UH, EVENT. AND THAT'LL BASICALLY JUST BE KIND OF A, A FAIR AMOUNT OF WATER RUSHING DOWN THE CREEK IN A VERY SHORT BUT VERY PROFOUND, UH, YOU KNOW, CONDI CONDITION. SO THE INUNDATION ZONE IS MUCH HIGHER UP THE HILLSIDE THAN THE FLOODPLAIN. UM, NOW A COUPLE THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE. ONE, THE INUNDATION ZONE THAT YOU SAW ON THE EXHIBIT WAS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE. LITERALLY ONE IN A MILLION YEARS IS SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT, UM, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY MODELED, UH, BY AUSTIN. AUSTIN ENERGY ACTUALLY OWNS AND MAINTAINS THAT DAM BACK IN, UH, 1995. AND THEN IN 2007 AND IN AGAIN IN 2012, THEY DID SOME SEPARATE EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN STUDIES TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE DAM WAS GOING TO EVER FAIL. THEY DID THOSE STUDIES AND CREATED MAPS, WHICH SHOWED WHAT THE ELEVATION OF THAT INUNDATION ZONE WAS GONNA BE NOT JUST ON OUR PROPERTY ALL THE WAY FROM THE DAM DOWN TO THE COLORADO RIVER, SO THAT WE'VE GOT THIS REALLY INTERESTING MAP SHOWING THIS INUNDATION ZONE. I MEAN, THE EVENT ONLY LASTS 30 MINUTES OR LESS, BUT THE WATER COMES UP VERY HIGH. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, UH, THIS, OUR PROJECT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WHERE TRAVIS COUNTY REALLY WANTED TO MAKE AN EFFORT AND BE CONSERVATIVE ABOUT IT AND SAY, LOOK, IF WE'RE GONNA BE DEVELOPING AROUND THESE DAMS DOWNSTREAM OF THESE DAMS, WE NEED TO BE CONSERVATIVE AND SAFETY CONSCIOUS AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT LIVING IN AREAS WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THEY'RE LIKELY TO BE FLOODED OUT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THAT SHOWS UP ON THE MAP. HOW MANY ACRE FEET ARE IN THE, UH, WATER IN THE LAKE? UM, I DON'T KNOW. UM, IT'S, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, HOW BIG THE LAKE IS. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE, THERE'S [01:00:01] DIFFERENT WAYS OF STUDYING THE INUNDATION ZONE EVENTS AND THE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS. AND NORMALLY THEY LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT CONDITIONS, THE LAKE AT ITS NORMAL LEVEL, AND THEN THE LAKE DURING A, A LIKE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM. SO YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IF THERE WAS A HUNDRED YEAR STORM AND IT OVERWHELMED THE, THE LAKE. THE THING IS, IT'S VERY STRANGE. THIS PARTICULAR LAKE HAS A VERY SMALL UPSTREAM CONTRIBUTING DRAINAGE AREA, LIKE NOT VERY BIG AT ALL. AND SO THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LAKE'S STANDARD, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S SITTING THERE AT ALL TIME AND WHAT THE MAXIMUM, YOU KNOW, FLOOD EVENT WOULD BE. THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE AS FAR AS THE SIZE. I MEAN, WE'RE ALL RELATIVELY FAMILIAR WITH HOW BIG THE, I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY BIG LAKE. UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL THAT DEEP. IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE, UH, WALTER REED LONG, UH, PARK PLANS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A MASTER PLAN FOR WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE PARK. THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY DRAIN OUT A BUNCH OF THE LAKE TO CREATE MORE LAND THERE, AND SOME LIKE LITTLE ISLANDS THAT WOULD BE AROUND IN THE PARTIALLY DRAINED LAKE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING ON OUR PLAN AND WHAT WE'VE DONE AS FAR AS THE DESIGN TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDINGS ARE OUTSIDE OF IT IS REALLY, REALLY CONSERVATIVE, YOU KNOW? SO IF THE, WHAT TYPE OF DAM IS THAT? IT'S NOT AN EARTH AND DAM, IS IT? YEAH. I BELIEVE IT'S JUST A STRAIGHT EARTH AND DAM. IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, JOE, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW THESE DAMS WORK? UH, LIKE DECKER LAKE DAM, I BELIEVE THEY USUALLY HAVE START WITH LIKE A CLAY GORE OR SOMETHING, AND THEN THEY JUST PUT EARTH ON TOP OF IT. AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT ARE REINFORCED WITH CONCRETE, LIKE IF THE SPILLWAYS ARE REINFORCED. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST A BIG, MASSIVE DAM OF EARTH. THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE TO IT. . YEAH. AS WHAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE REQUIRED TO BE INSPECTED REGULARLY. HAVE THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DAM WAS LAST INSPECTED? I DON'T, BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH AUSTIN ENERGY TO DISCUSS THE DAM AND OUR PROJECT. UH, THEY, THEY WERE ACTUALLY SORT OF STANDOFFISH ABOUT IT. THEY WANTED US TO WORK JUST PRETTY MUCH WITH TRAVIS COUNTY ON OUR OWN INUNDATION ZONE ANALYSIS AND OUR OWN, WHAT'S CALLED THE EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN THAT WE WILL GIVE TO THE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY MOVE IN. AND IT BASICALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT SAFETY FEATURES WE HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE HOMES BEING ABOVE THE INUNDATION ZONE. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF SIGNAGE AROUND, THERE'S A SIREN THAT WILL WARN PEOPLE IF THE DAM, UH, IS, IS IN A CA A STATE OF CATASTROPHIC FAILURE. THE DAM ITSELF HAS WARNING SIRENS THAT WILL GO OFF, OBVIOUSLY EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL OR NOTIFIED. THERE'S A, THERE'S A VERY TIGHT PROTOCOL OF, UH, OF ACTIONS THAT HAPPEN IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE, IF THEY DETECTED A, A, A FAILURE OF THE DAM. SO IF THE DAM FAILS, AND I KNOW IT COULD FAIL AT ANY POINT ALONG THE, THE, THE WIDTH OF THE DAM, BUT YOU'RE PRETTY SURE THAT YOUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WILL NOT BE IMPACTED SHOULD THE DAM FAIL? ABSOLUTELY. BASED, BASED ON THE AVAILABLE MODEL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CIVIL ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, THEHY HYDROLOGIC MODELING THAT WE'VE DONE. WE, WE HAVE A, A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE LOCATED THE BUILDINGS HIGH ENOUGH. IN FACT, FOR INSTANCE, THE, UH, THE, THE FLOOD EL, THE, THE INUNDATION ZONE ELEVATION IS WHAT'S, IS 502 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL. MOST OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE MORE LIKE AT 5 10, 5 12, 5 14. SO WE'RE, WE'RE EVEN MU WE'RE MUCH HIGHER THAN WE EVEN NEEDED TO BE FOR TRAVIS COUNTY'S, UH, CONSIDERATIONS, THEY WANTED US TWO FEET ABOVE. MOST OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE 6, 8, 10 FEET ABOVE. THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU HOW MANY ACRE FEET OF WATER WAS IN THE DAM. ACCORDING TO WIKIPEDIA, IT'S, UH, 1,269. BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, THIS LAND OF QUESTIONING IS INTERESTING, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VARIANCES FOR CUT AND FILL. UM, SO I WANTED MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE BRING IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE'RE CUTTING AND FILLING AND, AND CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE OF THE PROPERTY, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THIS YEAH, SO TRAVIS COUNTY IS THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR, AND SO THEY WILL HAVE TO GET PER PERMITS THROUGH THEM. I'M SURE THEY WILL. UH, OKAY. ARE THERE GONNA BE, UH, EVACUATION PLANS DISTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, RESIDENT? YES. UM, I PREPARED, UH, THE EMERGENCY, UH, ACTION PLAN, UM, BOTH FOR TRAVIS COUNTY, UM, THAT THEY'RE USING NOW AS THEIR TEMPLATE FOR ANYBODY THAT'S COMING IN, BUT THEN ALSO A SPECIAL EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN RESIDENT HANDBOOK. AND SO WHEN ANYONE'S GETTING READY TO MOVE IN THERE, THEY ARE GIVEN A PRESENTATION BY THE PROPERTY MANAGER ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE FACT THAT THE CONDITION EXISTS, WHERE THE SIGNAGE IS, YOU KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, IF CHILDREN ARE PLAYING AROUND IN THE CREEK OR SOMETHING, HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS IT. ALL THESE THINGS ARE PART OF THE EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN RESIDENCE HANDBOOK. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WHILE WE'RE STILL GETTING BACK TO JERMAINE, CAN I ASK FOR MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND, [01:05:01] SECOND. SECOND. FROM COMMISSIONER SEY ON FAVOR, HANDS, PLEASE. Z SULLIVAN CHANG QURESHI FLURY, UH, KRUGER FER. LUKEY. I HAD TO ACTUALLY REMEMBER THESE ALL , UM, SHOOT GANG. IS IT GANGLY OR GANGLY? GANGLY FI AND PRIMER. THANK Y'ALL. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION PREPARED. WE DO. SO THIS IS APRIL 16TH, 2025. THE SUBJECT IS FLATS ONE 30 SP 20 24 2 9 8 D LOCATION 7,400 Z BOULEVARD, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 6 5 3. WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REQUEST TO VARY LDC 25 8 3 41 TO ALLOW UP TO 11 OF CUT REQUEST TO VARY LDC 25 8 342 TO ALLOW UP TO 16 FEET OF FILL REQUEST TO VARY LDC 25 8 3 0 2 TO ALLOW UP TO 600 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING ON SLOPES OVER 25% AND TO ALLOW UP TO 3000 SQUARE FEET OF PARKING AREA ON SLOPES OVER 15%. WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE SITE IS LOCATED ON DECKER CREEK IN DECKER CREEK CREEK WATERSHED SUBURBAN WATERSHED CLASSIFICATION, SUBURBAN DESIRE DEVELOPMENT ZONE. AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THE VARIANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THREE TO ONE SLOPES WILL USE 6 0 9 S UPLAND SEED MIX WITH ADDITIONAL SHRUBS AND TREES PROVIDED NEAR THE BASE OF THE SLOPES TO ASSIST WITH STABILIZATION. THE NATURAL DRAW ADJACENT TO BUILDINGS THREE AND SEVEN IS DESIGNED AS A SUNKEN GARDEN THAT FILTERS RUNOFF WITH A TRICKLE CHANNEL AND POLLINATOR PLANTINGS. THE SITE WILL MEET FULL LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AS SPECIFIED BY CODE. DESPITE THE SITE BEING IN THE ETJ WHERE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES DO NOT APPLY, NOTABLY ALL PARKING SPACES WILL BE WITHIN 50 LF RADIUS OF A SHADE TREE. THEREFORE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS A VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS. ONE, ELIMINATE BUILDING ON SLOPES GREATER THAN 25% WHERE FEASIBLE. TWO, REDUCE PARKING AREA ON SLOPES BY 10%. AND THREE, INCORPORATE BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN AND LIGHTING WHERE FEASIBLE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND BEFORE WE DISCUSS? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BRIMER SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS? ADDITIONS DISCUSSION? YEAH, CAN I ASK WHERE DID THE, UH, WHAT WAS THE PARKING, UH, ELEMENT IN THAT MOTION? SURE. IT READS REDUCED PARKING AREA ON SLOPES BY 10%. SO DO WE HAVE TO SPECIFY WHAT THE SLOPE IS? I WAS JUST THINKING THAT TOO. SO MAYBE ON SLOPES OVER 15% BY 10% , IT MIGHT BE AN A GOOD IDEA TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO MEET THIS CONDITION. CAN YOU BRING THE PRESENTATION BACK UP, PLEASE? UH, GO TO THE ONE BEFORE THAT AND ZOOM IN ON THE CENTER RED AREA. THERE MORE ONE MORE TIME. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE OUR PARKING ENCROACHES INTO THOSE AREAS. UM, UH, THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE, WE'RE ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FOOT OF PARKING ON SLOPES OVER 15%. UM, WE CAN, ARE YOU, HOW MUCH, WHAT'S THE REQUEST TO REDUCE ALL OF THAT? OR JUST A PER A PER OR 10% OF THAT? SO DOWN TO 20 10% OF THE TOTAL 2,700 SQUARE. SO A MAXIMUM OF 2,700 SQUARE FOOT OF ALLOWABLE PARKING ON SLOPES OVER 15%. IS THAT THE ASK? CORRECT. THAT ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN MAKE THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. I DID WANT TO MENTION THOUGH, THAT I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THE REMAINDER OF THE MOTION, THOUGH. I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TO IT. IF I CAN'T, IF I CAN'T, THEN I CAN ASK. UH, , CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF ELIMINATING BUILDING ON SLOPES GREATER THAN 25%? THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE. AS YOU CAN [01:10:01] SEE, THE BUILDINGS, THE, THE DESIGN IS VERY, VERY SPECIFIC. AND, UM, WE, WE'VE, IF YOU KNEW, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ITERATIONS AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AS GOOD AS WE COULD DO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL AREA AND THE LOCATIONS OF THE SLOPES, UH, IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT PRACTICAL TO TRY AND REARRANGE THE BUILDINGS IN A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION TO AVOID THE SLOPES OVER 25%. UM, IT IS A VERY, VERY SMALL SQUARE FOOT. I MEAN, IT'S WHAT, 600 FEET SQUARE FOOT? UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST KIND OF UNAVOIDABLE. UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY, WE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY MAKE THE PARKING WORK WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE DEMOTION. I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE BUILDINGS WORK. STEPH, DID YOU ALL WORK TOGETHER ON OTHER ITERATIONS, LIKE EXPLORING THAT EXACT ISSUE? UH, YES. AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HE MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE WELL BELOW THERE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LOCATION OF THE SLOPES, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT AT THIS STAGE TO REDESIGN THE BUILDING LAYOUT. OKAY. THEN I CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT. UH, SO I'LL MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO REMOVE THE ELIMINATE BUILDING ON SLOPES GREATER THAN 25% WERE FEASIBLE. AND TO CLARIFY, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, UM, REDUCE PARKING AREA BY 10% ON SLOPES OVER 15%. YEAH. I'LL SECOND THAT IF IT NEEDS A SECOND. UH, IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT MOTION AS AMENDED. OKAY. WE'VE GOT COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, COMMISSIONER CHANG, REI FLURRY, KRUGER FER, LUKI GANG FIERRO AND BRIER. UNANIMOUS. GREAT. MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. [3. Discussion and possible action on Environmental Commission committee membership] OH, DO I NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION OVERALL? I THINK WE VOTED ON THE AMENDED MOTION. YEAH. MAGIC. ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE NUMBER THREE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP. THANK YOU, BY THE WAY, TO THE APPLICANT AND STAFF FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS. UM, WE TACKLED THIS ONE LAST TIME, BUT SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO, UM, OPEN THIS UP AGAIN. UH, SO WE HAVE THIS I DON'T THINK WAS IN OUR BACKUP, BUT WE'VE GOT IT HANDY. UM, SO FOR ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION 2025 MEMBERSHIP, WE HAVE THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE, WHICH DURING OUR LAST MEETING, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE COMMISSIONER BRIMER AND KRUEGER AND WE ADDED, UM, COMMISSIONERS, FER AND CHT AS MEMBERS. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER, UM, FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THIS COMMITTEE? WE'RE HOPING FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE. SO THERE'S FIVE. I ACTUALLY WANTED TO JOIN THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER LUCKY COMMITTEE. LUKEY. YEAH. EVERY TIME. NOW, DO YOU FEEL LUCKY TODAY THE ANSWER IS NO FOR DISTRICT FOUR . GREAT. UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE JOINT ENVIRONMENTAL AND PARKS BOARD, UH, CURRENTLY SERVING COMMISSIONER RESI AND MYSELF, COMMISSIONER FER. AND DURING THE LAST MEETING WE ADDED, UH, COMMISSIONER BRIMER. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THAT COMMITTEE OF THE JOINT AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND PARKS BOARD FOR CONTEXT? THEY'RE LIKE BASICALLY NEVER ANY MEETINGS. YEAH, THEY, I HAVEN'T BEEN HAVE IT FOR A YEAR, BUT IT'S A GREAT THING TO PUT ON YOUR RESUME. , ARE THERE REGULAR ? IT'S NOT POSTED. SO THE, THE DUTIES AS IT'S STATED IN THE BYLAWS ARE, UM, TO REVIEW AND RECOMMEND ACTIONS RELATED TO THE BARTON SPRINGS MASTER PLAN, BUT IT HAS NOT MET IN YEARS. SO IT MIGHT BE DUE FOR AN UPDATE TO THE BYLAWS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THAT WILL HAVE TO COME FROM BOTH ENVIRONMENTAL AND PARKS BOARD AS I UNDERSTAND IT. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YEAH, I THINK THE MOTION WOULD BE MUTUALLY ADOPTED AND THEN I THINK COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT. SO, SO THAT WOULD BE THE EFFORT OF THIS, THE AD HOC? YEAH. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD HAVE MORE ACTION TO, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY SPECIFIC TO THE BATHHOUSE, WHICH IS, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. SO PROBABLY NOT LIKELY TO HAVE MANY MEETINGS. WHO, WHO CALLS THE MEETING? I MEAN, WHO, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WHAT NOW? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT UH, WELL, OKAY, THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM 'CAUSE IT WAS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. THE BATHHOUSE, GODS , ELIZABETH FUNK WATERSHED. SO PARD IS THE ONE WHO RUNS THOSE MEETINGS AND SO IN THE PAST THEY HAVE BEEN THE LIAISON FOR THAT. OKAY. THAT'S AN EX EXCELLENT ANSWER. [01:15:04] GREAT. AND THEN, UM, LAST MEETING WE ALSO HAD COMMISSIONER CHEN VOLUNTEER TO BE THE ALTERNATE FOR THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. UM, AND COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN JOINED THE SOUTH REJOINED, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. NO PRESSURE. YES. COMMISSIONER? YEAH. UH, THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE IS WITH BATED BREATH WAITING FOR SUGGESTIONS FOR THE AGENDA FROM THE PROSPECTIVE MEMBERS. SO MARTIN, YES, THE, THE WORLD IS WAITING WITH BATED BREATH FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS. NOT NECESSARILY NOW, BUT VIA EMAIL AND, UH, MARIANA AND, UH, WHOEVER ELSE IS SIGNED UP. VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER . SO ANYWAY, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO DRIVE IT BY SUGGESTING THINGS, SO I'M REALLY KINDA LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO, TO, TO KIND OF DRIVE THE THING. UH, IF NOT, I'LL PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA AND SEND IT OUT AND GET THE, UH, THE STUFF GOING AND THEN PEOPLE CAN FEEL FREE TO ADD THINGS, UH, AND GO FROM THERE IF YOU KNOW Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO BE CREATIVE, SO, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR LEADING THE CHARGE. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOOD ON, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP. THEN MOVING ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] UH, I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S SEEN THE, THE TRAVIS COUNTY TESLA ECOLOGICAL PARADISE PARK. UH, I ASSUME NONE OF THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S JURISDICTION, RIGHT? UH, NOT ANY LONGER, NO. THEY HAVE, UH, REMOVED THEMSELVES FROM THE JURISDICTION. GOTTA LOVE IT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UH, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN AND I HAD ASKED FOR, UH, PRESENTATION FROM THE, UH, CAMPO FOLKS IN URBAN TRANSPORTATION. HAVE YOU HEARD BACK FROM THEM, UH, ELIZABETH BUNK WATERSHED? NO. I HAVE SENT OUT THE EMAIL AND FOLLOWED UP, BUT UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU CAN REQUEST PRESENTATION. STAFF DO NOT HAVE TO. SO I'M GONNA KEEP FOLLOWING UP, BUT WE'LL SEE IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU MA'AM. UM, I HAVE AN IDEA FOR SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE AGENDA, MAYBE NOT NEXT TIME, BUT JUST KIND OF SOON. AND I JUST WANNA GET EVERYONE'S LIKE HEADS IN THE SPACE FOR IT. UM, SO I WATCHED A, UH, SEMINAR OR I HAD LUNCH WITH A SEMINAR SPEAKER A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND PART OF HER RESEARCH IN NORTH CAROLINA IS LOOKING AT, UM, RARE EARTH ELEMENTS AND BIOREMEDIATION THROUGH PLANTS. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT SHE'S ABLE TO DO AND WHAT SHE'S PROVEN IN HER RESEARCH IS THAT, UM, THERE ARE PARTICULAR PLANTS THAT CAN BE PLACED IN WASTE AREAS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SLUDGE ASH. UM, THESE PLANTS CAN GROW IN THAT ENVIRONMENT AND NATURALLY THEY BIOACCUMULATE THE, UM, RARE EARTH ELEMENTS AND THEN THEY CAN, THOSE RARE EARTH ELEMENTS CAN BE EXTRACTED FROM THE PLANTS. UM, SO IT'S SORT OF A GREEN WAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. I'M SURE PEOPLE SAW THE NEWS THIS MORNING ABOUT THE RARE EARTH ELEMENTS FROM CHINA, UM, BEING DISCONTINUED. SO, UH, IT'S SORT OF A SUSTAINABLE WAY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, HARVESTING RARE EARTH ELEMENTS FROM OUR HOME BASE. UM, THE REASON THAT I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN IT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR COAL POWER PLANT AND PART OF THAT, UM, WASTE IS FLY ASH. AND SO HER RESEARCH IS LACKING, UM, VALIDATION THROUGH THE USE OF FLY ASH. AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, AND I HAVE, UM, RESOURCES THAT I CAN GIVE OUT AND I'M HAPPY TO ALSO GIVE LIKE A PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING ON RARE EARTH ELEMENTS AND HOW THIS RESEARCH WOULD BE CONDUCTED. BUT, UM, BASICALLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEND HER [01:20:02] LIKE BUCKETS OF FLY ASH, UM, WHICH RIGHT NOW JUST SITS BY THE, THE POWER PLANT. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS HARMFUL TO HUMANS RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE SHE'LL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE FLY ASH. UM, AND THEN BASED OFF OF THAT WE CAN SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE FOR, UM, HER PLANT BIOREMEDIATION RESEARCH PROJECT, WHICH, UH, RESEARCH IN INSTITUTION IS SHE AFFILIATED WITH. SHE IS WITH NORTH CAROLINA. AND WITH THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC INSTITUTION, WHATEVER THEY FIND, UM, IN TERMS OF ELEMENTS OR COMPOUNDS THAT MAY BE HAZARDOUS WITHIN THE WASTE, UM, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TO GUARANTEE ANONYMITY. SO IF THEY WERE ASKED, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING PUBLICATION, WHERE DID THE FLY ASH COME FROM? UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SAY THE VILLE COAL POWER PLANT. UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE ALSO MAY BE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF THE COAL POWER PLANTS. SO EVEN IF IT DOES HAVE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, THIS MAY BE A GOOD WAY TO, UM, PULL SOME OF THOSE OUT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE AND LIKE GOOD WITH IT. YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THIS IS WORKING. OH, THERE . YEAH, I, I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT LIKE THE PURVIEW OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IN FACILITATING PUBLIC RESEARCH PROJECTS, BUT IT SOUNDS INTERESTING. YEAH, SO I TALKED TO, UM, ONE OF MY BUDDIES, UH, IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND HE HAD SPOKEN TO UM, THE WOMAN THAT RUNS, I'M BLANKING ON HER NAME RIGHT NOW, BUT THE WOMAN THAT RUNS THE, UM, CLIMATE CHANGE AND WHAT IS THAT CALLED? UH, OCAR. SO, YES. YEAH, SO, UH, THE DIRECTOR IS ZACH BOMBER AND THEN, UM, ASSISTANT OR THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS GENESIS GINO. SO MAYBE ONE OF THOSE FOLKS. YEAH. SO THEY HAD, UM, 'CAUSE I WAS REALLY EXCITED BY THIS. UM, AND THEY HAD RECOMMENDED SENDING IT THROUGH THE COMMISSION AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. YEAH, I THINK MAKING A RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE GOOD AND UH, YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO UM, YOU KNOW, SEND ME THE STUFF AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN BRING IT UP TO THE JSC TOO 'CAUSE THAT'S THE COMMISSION THAT OCAR WORKS WITH. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT. AND WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE FAYETTEVILLE, UH, COAL PLANT USUALLY ALL NEGATIVE AND NO, NOTHING POSITIVE. SO, HEY, HERE'S A POSITIVE FOR ONCE, UM, ONE BIT OF, UH, RELEVANCY ABOUT THE, THE COAL PLANT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, IT'S, UM, WE OWN HAVE PART OWNERSHIP OF IT, BUT IT IS OPERATED BY THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ENTITY THAN US. AND SO, UM, I THINK THE FLY WOULD BE PROBABLY CONTROLLED BY THEM, NOT AUSTIN ENERGY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT COUNCIL WOULD, UM, THE LOWER RIVER, COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY IS A DIFFERENT AGENCY AND NOT REALLY OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. SO JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT. SO WHAT, I'M SORRY, DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET THE RESEARCHER TO COME AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT HER RESEARCH? OR WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD YOU BE PROPOSING TO PUT ON THE AGENDA? YEAH, SO SHE, UM, I HAVE AN EMAIL HERE FROM HER. UM, I THINK WHAT I WOULD BE PROPOSING IS JUST KIND OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, POSSIBLE PROS AND CONS AND MAYBE WRITING UP SOME SORT OF RECOMMENDATION. I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW HOW TO DO THAT . UM, BUT I COULD SEE IF SHE, UM, IS AVAILABLE THROUGH ZOOM. I ALSO, UM, FEEL FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE MATERIAL AND I WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, PRESENT SOME OF HER WORK AS WELL. UM, AND YEAH. DO YOU KNOW IF THE, UH, THE PONDS ARE THOSE CONTROLLED BY, I MEAN I ASSUME THE ENTIRE PLANT IS, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE, BUT I THINK AT THE LCRA IS THE OPERATING ENTITY OF THE PLANT. OKAY. WELL I MIGHT SUGGEST THIS THAT YOU EMAIL THROUGH ELIZABETH THE MATERIALS [01:25:01] TO THE REST OF US REVIEW AND THEN SHE CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION REMOTELY. I WOULD SUSPECT THERE COULD BE, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD INVITE THIS INDIVIDUAL TO PRESENT REMOTELY, IT COULD BE POSTED AS A BRIEFING WITH POSSIBLE ACTION. YEAH. THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WOULD SAVE EVERYONE THE MONEY AND, AND STUFF. UH, SO THAT'D BE ONE STRATEGY TO DO IT. THE OTHER THING IS THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, WHICH, UH, COMMISSIONER QURESHI, SHE COULD DO SIMILAR STUFF THERE. AND ACTUALLY YOU ARE THE ALTERNATE AND TECHNICALLY I'M GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN NEXT WEEK, SO MAYBE YOU CAN JUST TAKE MY PLACE AND ACT REALLY IMPORTANT. , WAIT. COOL. . AND, AND JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THE BASES COVERED. UH, SINCE YOU'RE WITH MAYOR'S OFFICE, YOU CAN, UH, TRACK DOWN THE MAYOR'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE AUSTIN ENERGY COMMISSION. OKAY. AND CHITCHAT WITH THEM AND SEE IF YOU CAN'T DO THE SAME TYPE OF THING WITH THEM. AND AGAIN, LIKE, UH, LIZ SAID, YOU KNOW, WE JUST BUY THE POWER FROM 'EM SO WE CAN'T TWIST THEIR ARM AND DO ANYTHING. BUT YOU KNOW, IT, WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. IF AUSTIN ENERGY AND THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE MAKES RES YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE FROM AUSTIN ENERGY CAN GO DOWN THERE AND POUND A TABLE WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR SHOE LIKE CHRIS, JEFF DID AND IF ANYONE REMEMBERS THAT. BUT ANYWAY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, THAT COULD BE THE COURSE OF ACTION IN THE END. SO YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. SO I'LL, UM, GO AHEAD AND COMPILE A LIST OF RESOURCES AND THEN, UM, I CAN SEND THAT OUT AND I'LL SEE IF SHE IS AVAILABLE, UM, DURING OUR TYPICAL MEETING TIME DURING THE PUBLIC PART. DO YOU NEED A SECOND? NO, I WOULD SECOND THAT. OKAY. BREATHING. IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ITEM. GREAT. ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE WE WRAP? ANY OBJECTIONS TO ADJOURNING? NOPE. , I FEEL LIKE THIS IS RECORD TIME AND I CAN'T SEE WHAT TIME IT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE BETTER THAN OUR PREVIOUS CHAIR HEARING NO OBJECTION. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 7:28 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.