* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:05] 4:00 PM WE'RE HERE IN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION ROOM AT AUSTIN CITY HALL, 3 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET IN AUSTIN, TEXAS FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. UM, I'M GOING TO BEGIN BY TAKING ROLL CALL AND COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE, UM, AT QUORUM, SO IF ANYONE LEAVES OR FOR THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, UM, IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO REMAIN ON CAMERA, WE WILL LOSE QUORUM. SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE, UM, I'LL TRY TO BE WATCHING THAT. BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, UM, WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE EXPECTING ANYONE ELSE TO ATTEND TONIGHT. SO WE, TO MAINTAIN QUORUM, WE HAVE TO ALL BE HERE VISUALLY PRESENT. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A ROLL CALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS. SO, UM, COMMISSIONER BUFFO FROM DESK, DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER. OH WOW. THAT WAS LIKE SITCOM WORTHY LEVEL OF ENTERING THIS MEETING. THANK YOU. WE'RE SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE. SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE SEVEN. SO, UH, WE'RE A ONE OVER QUORUM, WHICH IS NICE. UH, SO SOMEBODY CAN GET SICKER, PLEASE DON'T GET SICK, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. UM, I KNOW. SO, UH, DISTRICT TWO IS VACANT. UM, DISTRICT THREE, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ IS, UH, SHE LET US KNOW SHE WOULD NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT. I'M DISTRICT FOUR. SUSAN SUMMERS, I'M THE CHAIR. I'M PRESENT. UH, DISTRICT FIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMAN. THANK YOU. DISTRICT SIX, COMMISSIONER CHEN. THANKS. DISTRICT SEVEN IS OUR NEW COMMISSIONER. HE'S, UH, NOT HERE. LOOKS LIKE, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, COMMISSIONER JACOBSON. THANK YOU. UH, DISTRICT NINE, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER, OUR VICE CHAIR HERE. GREAT. UH, DISTRICT 10 IS VACANT. AND THEN OUR MAYOR, APPOINT MAYOR ORAL APPOINTEE. UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN. DID YOU, I SEE YOU. COULD YOU, UH, LET US KNOW YOU'RE HERE, COMMISSIONER BROWN? VERBALLY? HMM. WELL, WE'RE AT QUORUM, SO, UM, SO THAT'S OKAY FOR THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY A REMINDER THAT YOU NEED TO, IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY, TO EMAIL, UM, OUR STAFF LIAISON, UH, MEREDITH AND ANDRE, TO LET THEM KNOW IN WRITING WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES OF THIS MEETING. THAT MEANS NOW TO LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU ARE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY SO THAT YOU CAN BE COUNTED PRESENT. SO IF YOU'VE NOT ATTENDED TO THAT AND YOU'RE ATTENDED VIRTUALLY, PLEASE UH, UH, ATTEND TO THAT IMMEDIATELY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S OUR CALL TO ORDER. UM, WE DO HAVE, AS OUR FIRST ITEM, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION ON GENERAL ITEMS, NOT IN OUR AGENDA. I UNDERSTAND THAT NO ONE SIGNED UP, BUT I WILL LOOK AROUND THE ROOM. OKAY. UH, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR [1. Approve the minutes of the Urban Transportation Commission REGULAR MEETING on April 1, 2025.] FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. UH, ITEM ONE, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FROM 1ST OF APRIL, 2025. THESE HAVE BEEN CIRCULATED IN THE BACKUP ONLINE. AND THEN IF YOU'RE HERE IN PERSON, YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL. I'LL GIVE A SECOND TO REVIEW AND THEN YOU CAN, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JACOBSON. SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE STILL LOOKING A BIT. THERE'S A LOT IN HERE. WE DID A LOT OF AMENDMENTS. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL THOSE READY TO APPROVE THE, UH, UH, MINUTES. SAYS CIRCULATE IT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BROWN, ARE YOU ABLE TO VOTE FOR IT FOR US? I THINK HE MIGHT BE HAVING AUDIO ISSUES. ALL RIGHT. I CAN HEAR YOU GUYS NOW. OKAY, . THANK YOU. WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. UM, DID YOU, WERE YOU VOTING TO WITH US TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? YES. THANK YOU. GREAT. SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES BRING US TO ACTION I, DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS, WHICH WE HAVE A FULL SLATE TODAY, SO WE'LL TRY TO KEEP IT MOVING HERE. UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS AN ITEM, ITEM TWO [2. Discussion and approval of a possible recommendation on the Equitable Transit-Oriented Development (ETOD) updates from City of Austin and CapMetro.] DISCUSSION APPROVAL OF A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION ON THE EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT OR E TODD UPDATES FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND CAP METRO. AND THERE IS A DRAFT RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEEN CIRCULATED, AND WE ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO RECEIVE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL CALL UP, UH, WARNER COOK AND ANNA VIAL WHO ARE, UH, READY TO PRESENT TO US. AND I THINK ALSO SOMEONE FROM CAP METRO AS WELL. MATTHEW MEJIA. YES. YES, I'M HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. HELLO, GOOD EVENING, URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS WARNER COOK. SHE HER PRONOUNS THAT I'M THE PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITH THE SYSTEM-WIDE [00:05:01] EQUITABLE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE IN THE CITY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT. I'LL BE JOINED BY ANNA, MY COLLEAGUE, WHO WORKS ON STATIONARY PLANNING AND LEADS THAT TEAM FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS MATTHEW, WHO'S VIRTUAL WITH US, WHO IS ON THE TWO OD PLANNING TEAM FOR CAP METRO, THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY. SO I KNOW THIS IS SOME FOLKS FIRST MEETINGS, SOME OF YOU MAYBE HAVEN'T SEEN US, SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN US A LOT, UH, VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS. SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH JUST A VERY BRIEF IF THIS ADVANCES OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS ETOD? THERE WE GO. WAIT, DID I DO THAT OR DID YOU DO OH, OKAY. , WAIT, THIS SHOULD WORK. OKAY. THINK IT'S GOING OKAY. UM, SO, UM, THIS IS AN IMAGE THAT WE LIKE TO USE THAT CAP METRO'S, UH, GRAPHICS, AWESOME GRAPHICS TEAM HELPED DEVELOP FOR US THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS WHAT THE FEELING AND THE GOAL OF AN EQUITABLE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS. AND THIS IS A MULTI-PARTY, KIND OF MULTI-AGENCY COMMUNITY DRIVEN EFFORT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN LIVE NEAR TRANSIT, BUT ALSO KIND OF INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT FOLKS CAN ACCESS VIA TRANSIT. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT JUST FOCUSED ON BUILDINGS, BUT IT'S FOCUSED ON, UM, CREATING ACCESS TO THINGS LIKE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, JOB OPPORTUNITIES, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, DAYCARE, UM, IT'S ABOUT CREATING THE PUBLIC REALM AND URBAN INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THINGS LIKE BICYCLE LANES, UM, SHARED USE PATHS, METRO BIKE SHARE STATIONS, ET CETERA, TO THAT REALLY HELP COMPLETE THAT WALKABLE CITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO JUST AN EXAMPLE WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF GET TO EVERYTHING YOU NEED. NOW, HOW WE DEFINE ETOD, YOU'LL HEAR ME CALL IT THAT MULTIPLE TIMES, IS GOING BEYOND TRADITIONAL TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH AGAIN, OFTEN LOOKS AT, YOU KNOW, MARKET AND REAL ESTATE FACTORS BUILT FORM FACTORS, BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY PUT A HIGH EMPHASIS ON THE PEOPLE OR THE KIND OF MORE QUALITATIVE OUTCOMES THAT RESULT, UH, FROM THE DECISIONS THAT WE OR OTHERS MAKE, UM, IN THE PUBLIC REALM. SO ETOD IS KIND OF GOING BEYOND THAT TRADITIONAL APPROACH OF ENCOURAGING MARKET SUPPORTED DEVELOPMENT TO KIND OF LOOKING AGAIN TO DO NO HARM. SO KIND OF REDUCING THE DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES, OTHER NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT CAN COME WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT AND NEW TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND GOING EVEN BEYOND THAT TO LOOKING AGAIN AT CREATING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND BENEFITS FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, UM, AS WELL AS RESIDENTS THAT WILL BE JOINING THESE COMMUNITIES IN THE FUTURE AS THERE'S MORE ROOM FOR MORE PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE. AND REALLY WITH A FOCUS ON ENSURING THAT EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT RIDE TRANSIT TODAY AND HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED, CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS APPROVED. AND SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PARTNERS CAP METRO AS OUR TRANSIT AUTHORITY. UH, THEY REALLY HELPED KICK OFF THIS WORK WITH THE HELP OF SEVERAL, UM, FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDED STUDIES THAT THEY WERE AWARDED, COMPETITIVE GRANTS THAT THEY WERE AWARDED. UM, AND THEN THE CITY HAS BEEN PARTNERING WITH THEM SINCE NEARLY DAY ONE ON THAT CAP. METRO OPERATES AND DICTATES KIND OF THE SERVICE PATTERNS OF OUR TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, AND THEY ALSO OWN CERTAIN CATALYTIC SITES ALONG OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT THEY OWN AND OPERATE TODAY AS TRANSIT CENTERS OR AS OPERATION CENTERS OR OFFICE BUILDINGS, WHATEVER, WHAT HAVE YOU THAT THEY MAY LOOK IN THE FUTURE TO REDEVELOP THE CITY IS THE LAND USE AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS KIND OF HAVING SOME OF THE PROGRAMMATIC SIDE. SO WE'RE KIND OF POLICY PROGRAMS, REGULATIONS IN CREATING ETU D THAT'S THINGS LIKE ZONING, UM, AND LAND USE, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT KIND OF BEING IN CHARGE OF THOSE ANTI DISPLACEMENT POLICIES AND FUNDINGS, UM, ET CETERA. AND THEN AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP IS FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON THE LIGHT RAIL VERSUS, UM, THE METRO RAPID OR THE COMMUTER RAIL ASPECTS THAT ARE ALSO PART OF PROJECT CONNECT. AND THEY'RE FOCUSED ON DESIGNING ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTING THAT PROJECT. AND THEN CAP METRO WILL TAKE OVER OPERATIONS JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIG PICTURE. BUT THE KEY THERE IS THAT WE NEED COMMUNITY PARTNERS ALONG THE WAY. THAT'S ALL JUST ON THE STAFF KIND OF SIDE OF THINGS. BUT FOLKS LIKE YOU AS THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION PROVIDE REALLY VALUABLE GUIDANCE. WE ALSO HAVE A PROJECT CONNECT COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WE WORK WITH VERY CLOSELY AS WE KIND OF DEVELOP NEW ASPECTS OF IMPLEMENTING ETOD. SO LAUNCHING INTO UPDATES. UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN THIS SPACE FOR A BIT, YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN, BUT LAST MAY WE KIND OF, UM, SORRY, BACKING UP. THIS IS ALL THIS WORK HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2021, SO AGAIN, UH, HAPPY TO GO BACK AND EXPLAIN ANYTHING, BUT I'M JUST GONNA SAY UPDATES IN THE LAST YEAR, UM, SINCE IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS. AND, UM, SO ONE OF THOSE, THE BIG MILESTONES THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UH, HEARD ABOUT LAST SPRING IN MAY, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AMONG MULTIPLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS, A SUITE OF TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE AMENDMENTS THAT [00:10:01] FOCUS ON THE PHASE ONE LIGHT RAIL PROJECT AND ITS PRIORITY EXTENSIONS. SO THEY ADOPTED NEW ZONING COMBINING DISTRICTS THAT RESTRICT USES THAT ARE LESS TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE, THINGS LIKE LARGER WAREHOUSING USES, UM, AUTO ORIENTED USES THAT TYPICALLY DON'T GENERATE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WALKING AND TRANSIT RIDERSHIP KIND OF TRIPS, AS WELL AS CREATED A NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS, UH, PROGRAM THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE LIGHT RAIL. IT, UM, INCREASES THE HEIGHTS UP TO 120 FEET IN SOME CASES THAT DEVELOPMENTS COULD BUILD IN EXCHANGE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CERTAIN TENANT AND BUSINESS RE REDEVELOPMENT PROTECTIONS AND, UM, KIND OF MIXED USE REQUIREMENTS. SO AT THE SAME TIME, THEY REZONED ABOUT 850 ACRES OF LAND INTO THOSE TWO NEW DISTRICTS. SO IT'S ON THE MAP TODAY. UM, JUST AS AN UPDATE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A, A FULL SITE PLAN ALL THE WAY THROUGH YET A YEAR LATER, BUT THAT'S NOT SURPRISING IN OUR CURRENT KIND OF REAL ESTATE MARKET CONDITIONS. WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF SITE PLANS, WHICH ONCE APPROVED HAVE TO BE EXECUTED USUALLY WITHIN ABOUT TWO YEARS. UM, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUILDING HAPPENING ON THE LARGE SCALE RIGHT NOW, MULTIPLE FACTORS. SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN A FULL SITE PLAN APPROVED WITH THIS YET. UM, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST, UH, IN, YOU KNOW, THINGS COMING IN AND KIND OF GETTING INITIAL KIND OF CONSULTS WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR FOLKS THAT ALREADY HAVE THIS SONY LOOKING TO THE FUTURE, WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THE GEOGRAPHIC REACH OF TOOLS LIKE THE ETOD OVERLAY, UH, TO THE FULL SYSTEM OF THE PROJECT CONNECT INITIAL INVESTMENT. AND SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IS A PHASE TWO OF THE ETOD OVERLAY THAT WOULD COVER NOT JUST THE LIGHT RAIL THAT WE DID LAST YEAR, BUT COMMUTER RAIL STATIONS. SO THAT'S THE RED LINE AND FUTURE GREEN LINE STATIONS, AS WELL AS THE TWO NEW, UM, METRO RAPID ROOTS, THE EXPO AND PLEASANT VALLEY ROOTS THAT JUST WENT INTO OPERATION, I BELIEVE TWO MONTHS AGO MAYBE. UM, AND THE GOLD LINE AND THE 8 0 3 EXTENSION, WHICH ARE THE OTHER TWO METRO RAPID ROOTS. SO JUST GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF, THAT'S KIND OF THE GEOGRAPHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR PHASE TWO. UM, STAFF IS WORKING ON DEVELOPING THAT PROPOSAL IN CONCERT WITH KIND OF OTHER UPDATES TO DENSITY BONUSES CITYWIDE. AND WE'D BE HOPING TO BRING THAT BACK, LIKE A FINAL COMMUNITY PROPOSAL FOR Y'ALL AND OTHERS TO LOOK AT IN THE FALL WITH COUNSEL POTENTIALLY ADOPTING IT BY DECEMBER OR EARLY NEXT YEAR. AND WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO ANNA ON THE STATIONARY PLANNING. THANK YOU. UM, MY NAME IS ANNA VIEL AND I'M WITH THE STATIONARY PLANNING TEAM FOR THE RECORD, UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A VERY, VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF TWO PLANS. UM, BUT UM, HOPEFULLY I CAN DIRECT YOU TO WHERE TO GET MORE INFORMATION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THESE. UM, BOTH THE NOR LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER STATION AREA AND THE SOUTH CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER STATION AREA, UM, ARE MOVING FORWARD FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON MAY 22ND. UM, THE NOR LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER STATION AREA IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF, OF US 180 3 AND NORTH LAMAR. AND THEN WE HAVE THE SOUTH CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER STATION AREA THAT IT'S, UM, OFF OF RAD LANE AND SOUTH CONGRESS. UM, THE STATION AREA PLANS, UH, COVER A HALF A MILE BOUNDARY OUTSIDE OF THE TRANSIT CENTERS. SO, UM, THIS PROJECT KICKED OFF IN 2023. UH, WE PARTNERED WITH CAP METRO AND CONDUCTED THREE ROUNDS OF ENGAGEMENT IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS. UM, THE ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN VERY, VERY BOLD. WE HAVE, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THAT INCLUDES DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOCUS GROUPS, SURVEYS, UM, UH, DIFFERENT OPEN HOUSES, COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BOTH ONLINE AND IN PERSON. UH, AND THEY HAVE RESULTED IN THE TWO DRAFT PLANS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. UM, BOTH DRAFT PLANS INCLUDE SECTIONS, UH, SUCH AS THE PROJECT OVERVIEW. WE COVER INFORMATION ABOUT THE WHOLE STATION AREA. UH, THEN WE FOCUS INTO THE ACTUAL TRANSIT CENTER, UM, AND WE PROVIDE SOME, UH, CONCEPTUAL IMAGES OF THE TRANSIT CENTER, UH, DIFFERENT MAPS AND ALSO AN ETOD POLICY TOOLKIT. AND THEN AT THE END YOU WOULD SEE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY THAT DETAILS ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE. UM, THESE TWO PLANS WERE AVAILABLE ON THE SPEAKUP WEBSITE, UH, SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR. UM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO DOWNLOAD AND COMMENT ON. UM, WE ARE STILL TAKING COMMENTS, SO, UH, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, UH, DOWNLOADING THEM AND PROVIDING COMMENTS FOR US TO FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE DO SO. ON THE SCREEN IS THE, UH, SPEAK OF BOSTON WEBSITE. UH, THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO OUR MAIN PAGE. UM, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A DOCUMENT SECTION ON THE RIGHT HAND [00:15:01] SIDE THAT WILL HAVE, UH, BOTH DRAFT PLANS, UH, AVAILABLE, AND THERE'S ALSO A TAB FOR SUBMITTING COMMENTS. SO YOU CAN SUBMIT THOSE, UM, DIRECTLY TO US. BUT THAT WEB WEBSITE WILL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PLANS, NOT ONLY THE DRAFT DOCUMENTS, BUT IT WILL, IT WILL ALSO HAVE, UM, MEETING RECORDINGS, UH, THE TIMELINE AND DIFFERENT INFORMATION, UM, RELATED TO THIS PLANNING PROCESS. UM, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, WE ARE AT THE FINISH LINE ON THESE TWO PLANNING, UH, PROCESSES. UH, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 22ND. UM, AND AGAIN, THIS, THIS KICKED OFF IN 2023, SO IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS FOR THIS PLANNING PROCESS. WE'VE HEARD FROM, UM, MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, THE THREE ROUNDS. UM, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO, UH, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE AS WE MOVE THEM FORWARD. UM, BUT I WILL PASS IT ON TO MATT, MATTHEW, WHO'S GONNA COVER SOME UPDATES RELATED TO THE ETOD PLANNING PROCESS IN CAP METRO. AND THEN WE'LL ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AT THE END. THANK YOU ANNA. AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF BOSTON ETOD TEAM. UH, MY NAME IS MATTHEW MEIA. I'M A PLANNER WITH CAP METRO. UH, AND I'LL BE GIVING SOME BRIEF UPDATES ON WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MOVE E TWO OD FORWARD ON OUR END. UM, WE HAVE FOUR ACTIVE TASKS ACROSS THREE CONTRACTS GOING. UH, TASKS ARE JUST KIND OF A FORMAL TERM FOR WHAT WE CALL PROJECTS WITH A CONSULTANT TEAM SUPPORTING. UM, FIRST IS A CONTRACT THAT COVERS TWO TASKS. ONE IS THE ETOD STRATEGIC PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BE A DOCUMENT THAT PROVIDES CLEAR GUIDANCE AND, UH, TRANSPARENCY FOR SH FOR STAKEHOLDERS. UH, AND IT WILL DETAIL STEPS REQUIRED TO FOSTER COMMUNITY CENTERED DEVELOPMENT AROUND CURRENT AND FUTURE CAP METRO STATIONS. UH, TWO IS THE TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES. IT'S ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT WILL ESTABLISH STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPERS TO INCORPORATE TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE AMENITIES LIKE BUS PADS AND SHELTERS AND BIKESHARE DOCKS, ALL THAT KINDA STUFF. UH, AND THAT'LL BE ALIGNED TO DIFFERENT PROJECT SCALES AS WELL. OUR THIRD TASK, UM, AND SECOND CONTRACT IS OUR E 2D SITE ASSESSMENT, UH, THAT ADVANCES EFFORTS TO IDENTIFY THE MOST PROMISING SITES FOR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ON CAT METRO OWNED PROPERTIES. AND THEN TASK FOUR, UH, THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PROCUREMENT. UM, SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE WHAT EXACTLY THAT PROJECT, UM, WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH AND ALL THAT. UM, THIS IS OUR CRESTVIEW STATION, UH, ETOD STUDY AND IT WILL EXPLORE TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE AND ETOD OPPORTUNITIES FOR CRESTVIEW STATION, UH, WHICH IS OUR ONLY MULTIMODAL HUB THAT WILL INTEGRATE COMMUTER RAIL, FREIGHT, RAIL BUS, EVENTUAL LIGHT RAIL AND MICRO TRANSIT. UH, AND THEN KIND OF BROADLY TASKS ONE THROUGH THREE ARE LARGELY INTERNAL EXERCISES, UH, REALLY GETTING OUR OURSELVES READY INTERNALLY. UH, AND THEN, UH, WE OF COURSE THOUGH THROUGH THAT ARE, ARE WORKING AND COMMUNICATING WITH AND REQUESTING FEEDBACK FROM, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF, UH, AND ANYONE ELSE, UM, AS NEEDED AS APPROPRIATE. UH, TASK FOUR IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER COORDINATED PLANNING EFFORT. SO NEXT SLIDE. TALK ABOUT THAT. SO WE, EXCUSE ME, SORRY. UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE, WE WON AN FTA 2D GRANT IN 2024 TO STUDY THE CRESTVIEW STATION AREA CONNECTIVITY. UH, AND THIS IS GOING TO, UM, LOOK AT PLANS FOR NEAR AND LONG-TERM, UH, MULTIMODAL STATION AREA INTEGRATION. AND BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS ARE LOOKING TO ACCOUNT FOR THE AUSTIN HOUSING, UH, FINANCE CORPORATION'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S, UH, GOING IN ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING PLATFORM. YOU CAN SEE IN THAT IMAGE ON THERE, IT'S THE KIND OF BIG GRASSY FIELD WHERE IT SAYS CRESTVIEW STATION AND RYAN RED DEVELOPMENT, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO THAT DOTTED RED LINE, UM, WHICH IS THE RED LINE, UM, WITH THE RYAN DRIVE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN. UH, THIS STUDY WILL BE LOOKING AT HOW BEST TO CONNECT THOSE FUTURE RESIDENTS TO THE EXISTING STATION, UH, WHICH TODAY WOULD REQUIRE WALKING ALL THE WAY AROUND JUSTIN LANE UP LAMAR, AND THEN BACK OVER TO THE STATION. UH, AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT. UH, AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT HAKA RECENTLY ACQUIRED A MAJORITY SHARE OF MIDTOWN COMMONS JUST NORTH OF THE STATION. SO WE'LL BE, UH, LOOKING TO SEE WHERE STATION AREA CONNECTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE IN COORDINATION WITH THEIR TEAM AS WELL. UH, THIS IS KIND OF THE LARGER COORDINATION, UH, THAT I WAS REFERRING TO IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WORKING WITH THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS. UM, FOR THE LONGER TERM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THE FUTURE AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL EXTENSION TO CRESTVIEW STATION. UH, AND SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE THINK CONSIDERING THIS DURING THE NEAR TERM PHASE REALLY HELPS US MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEAR TERM INVESTMENTS ALSO WORK TOWARDS THAT LONGER TERM VISION. [00:20:01] UH, THAT'S IT FROM CAP CHU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE READY FOR QUESTIONS, . THANKS. AND, UM, I'LL JUST NOTE HERE, COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL, BUT I THINK WE'LL, UM, I THINK WE WANNA HAVE A, SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR PRETTY WIDE RANGING QUESTIONS THAT MAY NOT RELATE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I THINK WE'LL GO THROUGH QUESTIONS AND THEN, UM, WE WILL, UM, TAKE UP THE RECOMMENDATION IF STAFF WANNA STAY FOR THAT DISCUSSION. 'CAUSE THERE MAY BE GERMAINE QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT, BUT I, I KNOW I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. SO I GUESS, UM, ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT, UM, I GUESS THIS IS PROBABLY MOSTLY FOR ANNA, BUT, UM, IT'S ABOUT THE STATION AREA PLANS. I ACTUALLY, UM, AS YOU KNOW, YOU BOTH KNOW THAT I'M ALSO ON THE PROJECT CONNECT COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I'M PART OF THE ETOD WORKING GROUP, SO I'M PROBABLY MORE HIGH INFO ON THIS THAN MOST OF MOST PEOPLE. BUT, UM, I ALSO, UH, TOOK A CHANCE TO WATCH THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, LAST NIGHT. UM, I'M JUST SO COOL WATCHING ALL THESE CITY MEETINGS. UM, SO I, I SAW THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL. ONE QUESTION I HAD IS SORT OF, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH MA AND SOUTH CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER STATION AREA PLANS, THERE ARE THESE AREAS THAT ARE THE TRANSITION ZONES MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT ARE SORT OF, KIND OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY TOUCHED TOO MUCH. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION, PARTICULARLY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, AND ALSO IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY ABOUT DISPLACEMENT AND THE CONCERN THERE. AND I'M VERY COGNIZANT OF, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN, UM, AROUND MANY IN OUR CITY ABOUT REDEVELOPING CURRENTLY AFFORDABLE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, LIKE TEARING DOWN A CURRENTLY AFFORDABLE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND BUILDING A MUCH DENSER APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE THERE. AND I REALLY DO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF CONCERN AROUND THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN IT COMES TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONES, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE THING THAT IS REALLY DRIVING DISPLACEMENT THERE IS NOT ALLOWING SOMEBODY TO BUILD MORE UNITS OR DENSIFY THOSE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. SO I WAS CURIOUS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE TRANSITION ZONES, THOSE MAY BE, THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE DENSER, LIKE THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING FROM COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL OR A, YOU KNOW, DENSER THINGS THERE. BUT, UM, I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS TOO ABOUT FOR THOSE HALF MILE, THOSE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, ZONES, THE RATIONALE FOR NOT TOUCHING THOSE FOR NOW. YEAH. UM, I THINK THE RATIONALE FOR, UM, FOCUSING ON THE CORRIDORS AND FOCUSING, UM, ON ADDING SOME DENSITY ON CERTAIN AREAS, UH, WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE MENTIONING. LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, DISPLACEMENT CONCERNS COMING FROM RESIDENTS. UM, AND WE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS IN BOTH AREAS AND IT, THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE HEARD, UM, THAT FEAR OF NOT WANTING FOR THEIR AREA TO HAVE ANY, UM, DESIGNATION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY DISPLACE THEM. UM, AND SO WE'RE FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS ON AREAS THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO REDEVELOP LIKE LARGER SITES AND SITES THAT ARE, UH, LOCATED WITHIN MAJOR CORRIDORS OF THESE ON THESE TWO STATIONS. YEAH, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. I, I JUST REALLY THINK, ESPECIALLY ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT NOT ALLOWING THOSE TO SORT OF INCREMENTALLY DENSIFY, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT ACTUALLY DOES DRIVE DISPLACEMENT. YEAH. SO, AND, AND I, I DO HAVE TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT ADDING ANY LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT MIGHT, UM, ADD DENSITY, WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT ZONING TOOLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWING FOR THOSE, UM, SITES TO BE REDEVELOPED. AND, AND THERE ARE CURRENTLY OUS AND HOME. YEAH. SO EE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING A SPECIFIC LAND USE DESIGNATION, THEY UM, THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD SOME UNITS ON THOSE PROPERTIES. AND ALSO, UM, ON THE WARNER COOK, AGAIN, SORRY, ON THE SYSTEM-WIDE KIND OF REGULATORY PIECE, SOMETHING I DIDN'T MENTION BUT IS ANOTHER CODE AMENDMENT KIND OF PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON IS CALLED THE NEW ZONING DISTRICT STUDY. AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT CREATING ADDITIONAL BASE ZONES THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR CODE TODAY THAT WOULD BE MORE MISSING MIDDLE SIZE HOUSING. SO TOWN HOMES, ROW, ROW HOMES, MULTIPLEX, YOU KNOW, EIGHT PLEXES, THAT KIND OF THING. THAT IS MORE OF THAT KIND OF TRANSITION THAT YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT TOO. SO THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S, THERE'S A STUDY ONGOING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO RELEASE LATER THIS FALL THAT WOULD THEN FOLLOW WITH NEW, NEW ZONING DISTRICTS SO THAT SOMEBODY COULD TAKE SINGLE FAMILY. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOTHING REALLY BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE MUCH LARGER MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURES. SO IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF MORE GENTLE TRANSITION ONCE WE HAD THOSE TOOLS ADOPTED. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THAT'S A GREAT REMINDER. I THINK I DID KNOW THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, BUT HEARING THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. UM, I THINK MY SECOND, AND THEN I'LL STOP THIS IS MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION, UM, IS FOR MATT AND IT'S AROUND THE CRESTVIEW STATION AREA PLANNING. UM, SO SURE. UM, I KNOW, UM, CONNECTIVITY IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE THERE. I I TELL THIS [00:25:01] STORY A LOT, BUT, UM, WHEN I, I WAS LIVING TWO BLOCKS NORTH OF WHAT'S NOW MIDTOWN COMMONS WHEN IT WAS PASSED ORIGINALLY. AND I SAID, SHOULDN'T WE FIGURE OUT SOME PEDESTRIAN PATHS SO THAT WE CAN GET INTO THE MIDTOWN COMMONS? 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE REALLY COOL. THIS WAS ON A NEIGHBORHOOD LISTSERV, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER NEIGHBORHOOD LISTSERVS, AND EVERYONE WAS LIKE, NO, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW? NOW THE SAME PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE I THINK ARE DISAPPOINTED. THEY CAN'T WALK TO IT MORE EASILY, SO YOU NEVER KNOW HOW COOL SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE. RIGHT. BUT, UM, TRULY, SO, UM, ANYWAY, I I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, SO THE RYAN DRIVE DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS, WHAT IS THE STAT THAT DID PASS? OR WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT CURRENTLY FROM OUR HOUSING STAFF? MAYBE? UM, SO I BELIEVE, AND I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ON THE MOST UPTODATE, BUT I THINK THAT THEY'VE SELECTED A DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, A PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS THAT HAD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT KIND OF INITIAL SITE FEASIBILITY, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR CAPITAL TOGETHER, GETTING THEIR PERMITS AND THINGS. YEAH. SO YEAH. AND THAT'S REALLY THIS, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC OWNED LAND PROPERTY, IT'S LIKE A FORMER AUSTIN ENERGY PROPERTY THERE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S LIKE MIDTOWN COMMONS IS PRIVATELY HELD, RIGHT? YES. UH, IT WAS DEVELOPED AS IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UM, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS ACQUIRED, AS MATTHEW MENTIONED, A A MAJORITY STAKE IN THAT. AND SO THEY'RE PLANNING TO INCOME RESTRICT MORE OF THOSE UNITS. AND THAT'S IN A SPECIFIC COMPLEX YES. LIKE HOUSING COMPLEX THERE. OKAY. GOT, GOT IT. OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. UM, SO THIS WOULD BE TO, TO JUST DO CAT METRO AND CITY OF AUSTIN WORKING TOGETHER TO SORT OF RE RE-LOOK AT THE ENTIRE ZONE AREA AROUND IT, JUST SURE. SO WHAT ARE THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT? YEAH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE PRESENTED WITH A FAIRLY IMMEDIATE PROBLEM, UM, AS A TRANSIT AGENCY WITH CONNECTIVITY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE CURRENT STATION, UM, YOU HAVE THE PLATFORM ON ONE SIDE AND A FENCE ON THE OTHER. AND THAT FENCE IS IN THE WAY OF WHERE THAT NEW, UH, RYAN DRIVE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE GOING IN. THAT'S AT 6 9 0 9 RYAN DRIVE. UM, AND SO THAT, THAT'S SORT OF THE IMPETUS OF, UM, WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. UH, AND THEN WE SAY, UH, WE, THEN WE THEN WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW OPPORTUNITY WITH, UM, HAKA BEING A MAJORITY, UH, SHARE OWNER, I GUESS, OF, UM, THE, THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH. AND SO, UM, THERE'S REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE FOR US TO SAY, HOW CAN WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF PLACEMAKING HERE AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, UM, GOOD CONNECTIVITY. AND SO I THINK FOR OUR PART, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR OWN RIGHT OF WAY. UM, THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ABILITY TO REALLY DO ANYTHING. BUT, UM, FOR ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, WORK WITH THOSE PARTNERS ON EITHER SIDE OF US, OF COURSE THAT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'LL LOOK INTO. AND THEN, UM, AS I KINDA MENTIONED THAT LONGER TERM VISION IS, UH, WHENEVER THE LIGHT RAIL, UM, DOES REACH UP TO CRESTVIEW, UM, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS, UH, SOME THAT THAT'S GONNA REALLY CHANGE THE AREA. UH, AND SO WE, WE ALSO ARE TRYING TO, UM, DO ANYTHING NOW IN A WAY THAT WOULD SPEAK TO WHATEVER THAT, UM, FUTURE STATE WOULD LOOK LIKE, SO THAT WE'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, SPENDING DOLLARS WISELY AND, AND, UM, NOT HAVING TO UNDO WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. SURE. LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. SO IS THE GOAL WITH THE, THIS PLANNING TO COME OUT WITH A, A PLAN SIMILAR TO THOSE FOR NORTH LAMAR AND SOUTH CONGRESS ARE NOT QUITE SOMETHING THAT COMPREHENSIVE AT THIS POINT? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S QUITE THAT. OKAY. YEAH, THE CAP METRO'S TASK THAT THEY'RE LEADING IS REALLY FOCUSED ON KIND OF THE MOBILITY CONNECTIVITY PIECES OF IT AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE TRANSIT PLAZAS SHOULD GO, ALL THAT. BUT IN CONCERT WITH THAT, THE CITY HAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT THE EXISTING PLAN IN THAT AREA NEEDS UPDATING. SO WE'RE WORKING TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT UPDATING THE EXISTING VISION PLAN AND REGULATING PLAN, IS THAT REPLACING IT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE LIKE THE NEWER ETOD VISION PLANS? IS IT SOMETHING ELSE? SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AS WELL, BUT WE WOULD BE LOOKING, WE'RE A PARTNER WITH CAP METRO ON THE LARGER KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. EXCELLENT. THAT'S GREAT THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS. UH, I'M LOOKING AROUND TO SEE IF OTHERS HAVE QUESTIONS. YEAH. COMMISSIONER BUFFO, EXCUSE ME, I AM HEALTHY. JUST IGNORE ME. . UM, UH, JUST TO SOME CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS ON THE ETOD OVERLAY PHASE ONE MAP, UM, THE REASON THAT EAST RIVERSIDE IS BLANK IN TERMS OF INITIATED REZONING IS BECAUSE THAT HASN'T STARTED YET. IS THAT THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR REG PLAN UPDATE? YES. YEAH, IT'S RELATED. SO LAST SPRING WE DID NOT ACTUALLY APPLY THE NEW ZONING TOOL TO EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR KNOWING THAT WE WERE ABOUT TO KICK OFF AND UPDATE TO THAT EXISTING REGULATION PLAN. AND SO ANNA'S TEAM IS ACTUALLY, SINCE THEY'RE WRAPPING UP NORTH MAR AND SOUTH CONGRESS, THEY'RE KICKING OFF EAST RIVERSIDE TOMORROW WITH THE CONSULTANT TEAM [00:30:01] COMING UP. UM, YEAH, SO, SO WE PLANNED THAT THERE WOULD BE REGULATORY CHANGES THERE. WE LEFT THE OPTION OPEN IF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER WANTED TO COME IN. IN THE MEANTIME THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO ASK US, BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA APPLY REGULATIONS AND THEN IMMEDIATELY COME BACK AND LIKE CHANGE THEM AGAIN, SO. GOT IT. GOT IT. OKAY. COOL. AND THEN RELATED TO THAT, I GUESS THE, UM, SORRY IF I'M LIKE READING INTO THESE IMAGES, BUT UM, FOR THE MAP THAT'S LAID OUT HERE, THOSE OBVIOUSLY DON'T OVERLAP WITH THE SOUTH CONGRESS AND NORTH LAMAR STATIONS IN QUESTION. IS THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET THERE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL IN THIS NICE CHART THAT'S . YEAH, THE, UM, THE PHASE TWO WORK ON THE E TODD OVERLAY WOULD EXTEND TO THE TWO TRANSIT CENTERS, UM, ELIGIBILITY THAT'S PART OF THE STUDY AREA. SO YEAH, PHASE ONE JUST FOCUSED ON LIGHT RAIL AND PRIORITY EXTENSIONS. AND FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T SUPER FAMILIAR, THAT GOES FROM, UM, ROUGHLY AIRPORT AND NORTH LAMAR DOWN ALONG NORTH MAR IN GUADALUPE THROUGH DOWNTOWN PAST UT UM, TOWN TO SOUTH CONGRESS ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO ULT WHARF AS THE SOUTHERN, UM, END AND THEN ALONG EAST RIVERSIDE TO, UM, ROUGHLY S SH 71 AND THEN OUT TO THE AIRPORT. OKAY. SO THE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL ROUGHLY BE DONE LIKE THIS TIME NEXT YEAR OR, OR JUNE NEXT YEAR-ISH. THAT'S THE GOAL. OKAY. . YES. YES. I KNOW. I MEAN THAT WE, WE, WITH PLANNING PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO TRY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO CHANGES THAT HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY AS THE PROCESS GOES ON TO COMMUNITY INPUT THAT MAKES US NEED TO SLOW DOWN OR SPEED UP, RIGHT. LIKE IT, IT CAN CHANGE THE STARTING PLACE IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CLOSING IN ON THEM. OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION, I KNOW YOU HATE THIS QUESTION, BUT I HAVE TO ASK IT. WHAT'S THE ETA ON LIKE BREAKING GROUND? DO WE HAVE IT ? I GUESS I WOULD ASK THAT PERFECT FOR ME TO ASK CAP METRO MATTHEW. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE SOME OF THE SITES THAT YOU OWN RIGHT NOW. YEAH, SURE. UM, I, WE DON'T HAVE AN AN ETA UM, NO, BUT THAT THIS IS, UH, ONE OF THOSE TASKS THAT I WAS MENTIONING, UM, IS, IS LOOKING AT, UM, OUR DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT OF COURSE INCLUDES THE NORTH MAR AND SOUTH CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER. UM, TRYING TO HAVE A, A FULLER STRATEGY AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, UH, MAKES SENSE, WHERE AND WHEN AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. SO OF COURSE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, AS WE SAY, WE'RE DOING OUR HOMEWORK ON IT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SPEND DOLLARS WISELY. I SHOULD ALSO ADD, NOT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT UM, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY NORTH LAMAR, UH, IT REALLY HAS BEEN ATTEMPTED BEFORE. THERE WAS, UH, RFP, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LIKE EIGHT OR 10 YEARS AGO THAT THAT DIDN'T, UM, BASICALLY DIDN'T GENERATE ANY PROPOSALS. SO I THINK THAT THIS WORK NOW THAT WE'VE DONE IS MUCH DEEPER. AND I THINK IT ALSO IS ACCOMPANY BY LIKE A LOT MORE THOUGHTFUL ATTENTION TO LIKE THE, THE ZONING, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY ZONING CHANGES 'CAUSE IT'S NOT CHANGES RIGHT NOW. IT'S MORE LIKE, UH, PH FLUBS, WHICH IS INDICATING WHAT WE WANNA DO IN THE FUTURE, RIGHT? NOT ACTIVE CURRENT CHANGES. BUT I THINK, UM, I BELIEVE AND HOPE THAT WITH THESE CHANGES AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WHEN CAP METRO WITH THIS, THE LAND THAT THEY OWN GOES TO RFP OR RFQ AGAIN FOR A DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BETTER RESULT BECAUSE OF ALL THE PLANNING THAT NOW UNDERGIRDS IT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ANSWER, JUST SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN WATCHING THIS A LONG TIME. THANK YOU. YEAH. UH, COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER, SOME QUESTIONS FROM YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR SUMMERS. UM, YEAH, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE, UM, CRESTVIEW, UM, STATION ITEMS. UM, VERY EXCITED TO SEE MORE WORK BEING PUT ON, ON THE UNDERPASS. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST TRENDS INVESTMENT WE CAN MAKE OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, OUR PROJECT CONNECT LIGHT RAIL INVESTMENTS. 'CAUSE IT IS WHAT'S KEEPING US FROM 15 MINUTE FREQUENCIES ON THE RED LINE. UM, SO I THINK I SAW ON THERE THE PLANNING GRANT GETS YOU TO 15% PLANNING ON CURRENT RED LINE CONDITIONS AND THEN 10% PLANNING FOR FUTURE LIGHT RAIL AND RED LINE UNDERPASS. IS THAT YEAH, SO OH, GO AHEAD. OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. YEAH, YEAH. NO, GO AHEAD. YOUR QUESTION. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I'LL LET YOU FINISH. YEAH, WELL, SO I GUESS IS THAT 10% FOR BOTH THE LIGHT RAIL AND THE UNDERPASS? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S BEEN A GOOD BIT OF WORK ALREADY DONE ON THE UNDERPASS. I KNOW THERE'S SOME GEO GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERING THAT WAS DONE A COUPLE YEARS AGO. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT, THAT THE SPECIFIC UNDERPASS PROJECT WAS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN 10 OR 15%. RIGHT NOW IT'S SOME CAT METROS BEEN WORKING ON. YEAH. SORRY, YOU, UM, I THINK I GOT EVERYTHING YOU CUT OFF JUST AT THE END THERE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE I GOT WHAT YOU SAID THE, I GUESS YEAH, YEAH, I THINK YOU GOT IT. I GOT YOU. YEAH. YEAH. UM, SO THE ONE, ONE NOTE, UM, THAT 10 OR 15% PIECE, UM, I MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PRESENTATIONS TO THE ONE THAT I PRESENTED ON. YOU'RE REFERRING TO A PREVIOUS ONE. UM, BUT YEAH, SO I REMOVED THAT BECAUSE, UM, I ADDED THAT NOTE IN THAT WE'RE AN ACTIVE PROCUREMENT ABOUT, UH, THE CRESTVIEW BECAUSE THAT'S A [00:35:01] PLACE WHERE, UM, THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T REALLY SET IN STONE. UH, AND SO I REALIZED THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY A HELPFUL THING TO PUT OUT BECAUSE THOSE THINGS AREN'T ACTUALLY SET AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS WILL HAPPEN, UH, EXACTLY IN THAT WAY. GENERALLY THOUGH, THAT'S THE SHORT AND THE LONG TERM, THAT 15 AND 10. RIGHT. AND THIS IS, UM, NOT, THIS ISN'T LOOKING AT, UH, DOING THE, THE LIKE MAJOR GRADE SEPARATION PROJECTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT STATION AREA CONNECTIVITY. AND SO THAT'S THE WORK WE'RE SAYING. WE HAVE THIS STATION RIGHT NOW AND WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO CONNECTIVITY TO CONNECT TO THIS, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENT GOING IN. AND SO WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK TO, UH, STUDY WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE AND START TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER FOR, UM, HOW TO, HOW TO INCORPORATE THEM, UM, INTO THE STATIONARY IN A BETTER WAY THAT, UH, LONGER TERM ONE SAYS, OKAY, WELL IN THE FUTURE WHEN THERE IS LIGHT RAIL HERE, UM, FOR, FOR OUR, UH, TRANSIT WONGS OUT THERE, UH, TRANSPORTATION WONGS THAT, UH, HEAVY AND LIGHT RAIL, UM, CAN'T REALLY COMMINGLE. AND SO YOU HAVE TO GRADE SEPARATE THEM. UH, AND SO A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE BEFORE I JOINED, UH, CAP METRO TO DETERMINE THAT, UM, THE RIGHT ROUTE TO GO WITH IS TO DROP THE RED LINE BELOW GRADE. UM, AND THAT, UH, INCLUDES SOME JOB TRACKING AND YES, THAT THAT'S FURTHER ALONG THAN THAT. UM, THIS ISN'T, UH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISN'T THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT. UM, BUT WE'RE SAYING HOW DO WE CONNECT PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT'S REALLY OUR FOCUS IS, UM, A, A BETTER, UM, I LIKE TO SAY PLACEMAKING, UM, JUST REALLY IMPROVING THE, THE ABILITY TO MOVE AROUND IN THE AREA. OKAY. THAT, THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE AND VERY MUCH CLEARS IT UP. I GUESS IF, IF I CAN ASK YOU WHERE, WHERE YOU GUYS ARE IN THAT PROCESS, UM, KNOW IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING AS YOU POINT OUT, CAP METRO HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, COME TO THIS CONCLUSION THAT WAS NECESSARY TO DO THIS BEFORE WE EVEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIGHT RAIL, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE LIGHT RAIL WAS APPROVED, UH, TO GO, UH, THEORETICALLY TO, TO CRESTVIEW. UM, SO I GUESS, UM, YEAH, CAN YOU TOUCH ON WHERE THAT IS IN THE PROCESS AND OBVIOUSLY HOW WILL THAT CHANGE HOW YOU THINK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY? 'CAUSE IF, YOU KNOW THIS IS COMING IN FIVE YEARS, THIS COMING IN 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS, THAT DEFINITELY CHANGES HOW, YOU KNOW, UH, SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE GONNA INTERACT WITH THE STATION. UM, I, YEAH, I THINK, UH, THAT'S A, THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS JUST AROUND FUNDING. UM, AND SO THAT, THAT'S, UH, WHERE IT IS IS, IS JUST LOOKING FOR FUNDING TO MOVE ANYTHING ALONG. UM, I DON'T, I COULDN'T BEGIN TO GUESS ON ANSWERS FOR FUNDING FOR THOSE THINGS. SO I, I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING MORE THERE 'CAUSE I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE I, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMAN, UM, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT IS CAP METRO ABLE TO DEVELOP, ITS THE LAND THAT IT OWNS OR BECAUSE I SEE ON THE VISION PLAN THAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT A JOINT DEVELOPMENT. HOW DOES THAT WORK? OH, SURE. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION THERE. UM, NO, WE, WE ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP, BUT THE TERM JOINT DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE AREN'T EXPERTS IN PUTTING TROUBLES ON THE GROUND IN MM-HMM . BUILDING BUILDINGS. RIGHT. SO WE WOULD WORK WITH A DEVELOPER THAT DOES THAT, THAT'S THE JOINT DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD OWN IT AND UH, WE ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT. UH, AND THAT JOINT DEVELOPER WOULD BE A PARTNER IN THAT PROCESS. OKAY. UH, GREAT. AND PLAZA SATIO IS AN EXAMPLE OF OH, OKAY. OF THAT EXACT PROCESS. YEAH. UM, AND THEN TWO MORE QUESTIONS THAT I HOPE ARE QUICK. UM, ONE IS THE BERGSTROM SPUR. I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, THE SOUTH CONGRESS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE HORIZONTAL, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MORE EAST WEST AND THE WAY YOU THINK 'CAUSE IT'S BEING ON SOUTH CONGRESS IS REALLY KIND OF UGLY SOMETIMES AND KIND OF GROSS. SO IT'S NICER TO USE THAT TRAIL, LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THAT BERGHAM STORE TO KIND OF BE THE FRONT DOOR. SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT AT ALL ABOUT WHAT SORT OF FRONTAGES AND UM, HOW YOU CAN MAKE IT LIKE THAT BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE? OR I'M, I'M SORRY IF THIS IS SUPER VAGUE, BUT, UH, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW YOU'RE INTERACTING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT WITH THE TRAIL? AND THEN, UM, MY LAST QUESTION IS HOW ARE YOU PLANNING TO BRING IN THE BASE ZONING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLUM AND IS LIKE, HOW LONG IS THAT GONNA TAKE AND WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? YEAH, SO IN REGARDS TO YOUR F FIRST QUESTION, UH, FOR THE BERGSTROM BIR TRAIL THAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED IN THIS PLANNING PROCESS, [00:40:01] YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S SOME ILLUSTRATIONS, UM, THAT HAVE THE, THE TRAIL AS PART OF, UM, THE VERY ACTIVE, UH, STREET. UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT HAS A, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND MILE LAST MILE MICRO MOBILITY, IT HAS SHADED TREES. AND SO IT, IT, IT, IT DOES, UM, SEEM TO BE ONE OF THE CRITICAL ASPECTS OF THAT RANDOM LANE AND WILL DEFINITELY BE A KEY COMPONENT THAT WOULD, UM, UH, BE CRITICAL FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA. SO YES, IT'S, IT'S A VERY, UH, IMPORTANT PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSIT CENTER. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE REZONING, WE DO HAVE A FUTURE LINE USE MAP THAT IS NOT ZONING, BUT IT WOULD GUIDE ZONING. UM, AND SO, UM, WE ARE PLANNING TO DO REZONING, UM, MAYBE WITHIN 12 TO T 4, 24 MONTHS AFTER. UM, THE NEW TOOL TOOLS, UM, ARE ADOPTED. LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S SOME NEW, UM, ZONING BASED ZONINGS THAT MIGHT BE, UM, UH, ADOPTED BY THE CITY. SO WE'RE HOPING TO, UM, HAVE THOSE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND ALIGN THE ZONING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. BUT MOST OF THE TWO, UH, TRANSIT CENTERS, UM, THE, THE NEW LAND LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR THE MOST PART ARE ALREADY IN ALIGNMENT. SO THERE'S VERY FEW PROPERTIES THAT WE WILL NEED TO GO AND, UM, REZONE. SO. GREAT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY. SEE NONE. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE, UM, TO GET IT ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION, MOVE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION. IT IS, I KNOW IT CIRCULATED THIS MORNING. I THINK IT'S ALSO GOT PUT INTO BACKUP BY BEFORE THIS MEETING, BUT IT'S ALSO ON PAPER IF YOU'RE HERE. SO THIS IS DRAFT RECOMMENDATION 2 0 2 5 0 5 0 6 2 NORTH LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER AND SOUTH, UH, CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER VISION PLANS. UM, SO I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THAT AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IF WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. UM, SO I WROTE THIS LAST NIGHT WITH FULL DISCLOSURE. SO, UM, I JUST WANNA, UM, I FEEL REALLY, REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT ETOD. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE, UM, FEEL LIKE I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND WE'VE HAD, UM, THROUGH BEFORE THIS BODY WE HAD, UM, JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR NEWER MEMBERS, WE DID HEAR THE ETOD POLICY PLAN. I THINK WE ENDED UP NOT PASSING A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. UM, IN 2020 MARCH, 2023, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IF Y'ALL WERE ONE THAT PASSED SOMETHING BEFORE IT OR NOT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE DID. THAT WAS, WE WERE KIND OF LOW ENERGY AT THAT POINT. BUT THEN WE DID PASS A PRETTY ROBUST RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE ETOD PHASE ONE OVERLAY LAST YEAR. UM, AND I DREW ON SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF THAT RECOMMENDATION IN CREATING THIS ONE. SO THIS ONE IS BASICALLY JUST SHORT AND SWEET TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE TWO, UH, VISION PLANS AND THE ASSOCIATED PH FLUS. UM, AND ALSO INCORPORATING THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH I THOUGHT ADDED SOME, SOME USEFUL THINGS ABOUT, UM, CONNECTIVITY, UM, ACROSS SOME OF THESE HIGHWAYS. AND I SORT OF INDICATE HERE TOO, SORT OF HIGHLIGHTING THE TRANSPORTATION REASONS BEHIND THESE. SO THE EZ IS KIND OF ARE LIKE NUMBER ONE. OUR, UH, OUR NORTH STAR, WHICH IS AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN SAYS WE NEED TO GET MORE PEOPLE RIDING TRANSIT, UH, AND COMMUTING VIA TRANSIT AND MORE PEOPLE LIVING AND WORKING WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK IS A KEY INDICATOR OF SUCCESS. UM, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY FROM OUR LAST RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DID. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE TALKS ABOUT HOW IT'S ARE IMPORTANT COMMUNITY HUBS. THEY'RE TRANSIT HUBS FOR THE CITY. THEY PROVIDE VITAL SERVICES TO TRANSIT DEPENDENT IN INDIVIDUALS. THEY INTEGRATE INTO LONG RANGE TRANSIT PLANNING, INCLUDING THE LONG RANGE PLANS WITHIN PROJECT CONNECT FOR AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL EXTENSIONS. AND THEY PRESENT UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE COMMUNITY DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT ON CAP METRO OWNED LAND, INCLUDING DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN I SAY THAT THEY SORT OF ARE ALSO AREAS THAT ARE REALLY CRUCIAL IN NEED FOR REHABILITATION. 'CAUSE BOTH OF THEM TO VARYING EXTENTS ARE DIVIDED BY FREEWAYS. UM, AND SO WE NEED TO REALLY INCREASE SAFETY AND WALKABILITY FOR ALL MODES, WALKING, BIKING, AND ROLLING. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING I REALLY HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY LISTENING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONING MEETING AS WELL. SO, UM, AND THAT IN THE PAST, THIS BODY THE LAST, WHEREAS WE HAVE A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE ETOD PHASE ONE. AND IN THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION THERE, IF YOU'LL, UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE, REMEMBER, OR THOSE OF YOU KNEW ARE LEARNING, WE ACTUALLY SAID DO MORE LIKE A APPLY THIS TO ADDITIONAL PARCELS. AND OBVIOUSLY WE HEARD TODAY ABOUT THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING TO DO MORE AND MORE AND MORE IN DIFFERENT PHASES, BUT, UM, I DIDN'T, I STOPPED SHORT OF SAYING THAT IN THIS WRECK BECAUSE I THOUGHT, UM, I KNEW THAT IT WOULD, SOME OF Y'ALL MAYBE STILL LEARNING ABOUT THE PLANS. UM, SO I'M, I KNOW, UM, I KNOW THAT IT WAS SENT OUT TO SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THROUGH EMAIL AND HOPEFULLY YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT. SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. ANY DISCUSSION, UM, OR AMENDMENTS? HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU. [00:45:03] GREAT, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF THERE IS NO DISCUSSION AMENDMENTS OR QUESTIONS, UM, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE APPROVING THIS RECOMMENDATION. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS UNANIMOUS OF THOSE PRESENT. THAT WAS AN EASY ONE. THANK Y'ALL. AND THANK YOU TO STAFF AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES [3. Discussion and approval of a Right of Way Vacation for 11632 Saint Thomas Drive.] BRING US TO ITEM THREE, UH, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF A RIDE OF WAY VACATION FOR 1 1 6 3 2 ST. THOMAS DRIVE. SO I'M GONNA CALL UP OUR PRESENTERS ON THAT AND ACTUALLY BOTH ITEM THREE AND FOUR, A RIDE OF WAY VACATION, UH, ITEMS. SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE, UM, ONE AT A TIME CONSECUTIVELY, I THINK. THANK YOU. MIGHT NEED TO DO THAT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. HOW ARE WE DOING TODAY? UH, I'M CHRISTOPHER BUGGER, A REAL ESTATE SERVICES AGENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING DIVISION OF TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS HERE TODAY TO PRESENT A STREET RIGHT OF WAY VACATION APPLICATION OF ST. THOMAS DRIVE, UM, AND WILLOW BAY ROAD, ABUTTING 1 1 6 3 2 ST. THOMAS DRIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. THIS GUY, HERE'S A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE SITE OF THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY. AND THAT IS A BUDDING PROPERTY OWNER, UH, MERITAGE HOME OF TEXAS LLC. THE PROPERTY OF 1 1 6 3 2 ST. THOMAS DRIVE IS CURRENTLY UNPAVED, UNDEVELOPED RIGHT OF WAY AND IS COMPOSED OF TWO TRACKS LOOKING FOR A VACATION TRACKED. A IS APPROXIMATELY 1.283 ACRES AND TRACT B IS 0.29 ACRES. UM, 2 9 8 ACRES. HERE'S THE STREET VIEW. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. THIS IS AS CLOSE AS WE CAN GET ON GOOGLE MAPS. THE TOTAL VACATION TRACKS ARE APPROXIMATELY 1.581 ACRES TRACKS OF LAND. UM, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED BEING TWO SEPARATE TRACKS. UH, THE FIRST BEING, UH, 0.98 ACRES AND TRACK TWO BEING APPROXIMATELY 1.283 ACRES. ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE VACATION AREA WERE SENT PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS ON FEBRUARY 14TH, 2025. AND AS OF THIS PRESENTATION, KNOW WHAT PUBLIC OBJECTIONS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, ALL AFFECTED CITY DEPARTMENTS AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS HAVE REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY VACATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS ON THE MASTER COMMENT REPORT SUBMITTED WITH THIS PRESENTATION. UH, AND THE APPLICANT WILL DEDICATE A NEW WASTEWATER LINE EASEMENT AFTER THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN VACATED. HOW DO THEY PLAN TO DEVELOP THE AREA? UH, IT'LL BECOME PART OF THE REPL PHASE FOUR. THERE IS NO CURRENT SITE PLAN THAT IS ACTIVE AND, AND THE OWNER WILL DEDICATE NEW RIGHT OF WAY IN THE REPL CASE NUMBER C EIGHT J DASH ZERO THREE DASH 0 1 1 1 A SH I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE REGARDING THE RIGHT OF AWAY PROCESS AND THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE, UH, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. SO THIS ONE WAS INITIALLY A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR ME BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE I'M LOOKING DOWN ON A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S JUST PLATTED AND THERE'S NOTHING ACTUALLY BUILT ON THESE LOTS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, IT'S JUST A GRASS, YES. OKAY, THAT'S HELPFUL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? SO THE INTENTION IS TO, TO REPL AND DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY, BUT JUST IN A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING? IS THAT KIND OF THE INTENT HERE? YEAH. UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I BELIEVE THE CURRENT PLAT, THERE'S A SECTION OF IT WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN. SO IN ORDER TO RECORRECT THAT THERE IS A REPL THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING TO DEDICATE NEW RIGHT OF WAY AFTER THE VACATION OF THE SELECTED TRACKS THAT ARE TO BE VACATED. GOT IT. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? [00:50:05] ALL RIGHT, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. VACATION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER. I'LL TAKE A QUICK VOTE ON THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS VACATION, PLEASE, UH, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SIX THERE. IS THAT MY NUMBERS? I CAN'T WANT TWO ONLINE. ONE. YES. AND THEN TWO, UH, ARE TWO, ARE Y'ALL TWO VOTING OR I HAVE QUESTIONS. OH, YEAH. OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I'M SORRY. YOU YEAH, JUST SPEAK UP. LET ME KNOW IF I, IF I OVERLOOK YOU. JUST LET, JUST HOLLER AT ME. GO AHEAD. YEAH, SORRY. UH, UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE PROXIMITY OF THE, THERE'S A BODY OF WATER I'M SEEING ON GOOGLE MAPS KIND OF PROXIMATE TO THE SITE. UH, MAYBE I'M, UH, I HAVE THE ADDRESS WRONG ON GOOGLE MAPS. IT'S 1 1 6 3 2 ST. THOMAS DRIVE. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. UM, UH, IS THAT LIKE, UH, DO YOU KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THAT BODY OF WATER OR LIKE, IS THAT I I DO NOT, UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH, YEAH. I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT 'CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING, UH, THE DEVELOPER WISHES TO, UH, EXTEND A WASTEWATER, UH, EASEMENT TO THIS PLANT WITHIN THE NEW RIGHT OF WAY THAT WILL BE DEDICATED. OKAY. GOT IT. UM, YEAH, I, I JUST, UH, JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT, UH, RUNNING NEXT TO THIS BODY OF WATER AND WHAT IF THAT BODY OF WATER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY'S DRINKING OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, OR IF IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO USE OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND, AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE AND WHAT, WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD YOU, IF ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I, I, I DO NOT KNOW. I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD FALL INTO THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT I, I DO NOT KNOW. OKAY. OH YEAH. IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW. YES SIR. STEVE JAMESON JAMESON CIVIL ENGINEERING. I'M THE ENGINEER BRICKER ON THIS ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHITE POND. IT'S THE WATER QUALITY TREATMENT FOR OUR SUBDIVISION AND THEN THE SITELINE NEXT TO US. OKAY. SO, SORRY, COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT? IT'S A WET POND. IT'S A WATER QUALITY FEATURE. OKAY. SO ALL THE STORM WATER GOES INTO THE, TO THE WET POND AND GETS TREATED BEFORE IT GOES DOWN. THERE'S ALSO A TRAVIS COUNTY DETENTION POND THAT'S DOWNSTREAM. OKAY, GOT IT. SO YOU'RE ANTICIPATION LIKE IT'LL BE TREATED BEFORE IT GOES INTO THIS BODY WALL? YES. IT'S ALL GONNA GO TO PER CITY CODE. OKAY. GOT IT. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ASK. THANKS. WERE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. MY PARLIAMENTARIANS MAY NEED TO HELP ME WITH, UH, MY WAY I A ABORTED THE VOTE, WHICH PROBABLY WASN'T ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S RULES, BUT, UM, I WANNA HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR QUESTIONS SHOULD I THINK WE HAD OUR MOTION. AND SECOND, I THINK IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO ATTEMPT THE VOTE AGAIN IF, IF THAT'S IN ORDER. OKAY. HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE RIDE OF WAY VACATION AS MOTIONED. GREAT. SO WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY IS IN FAVOR. GREAT, THANK YOU. THAT PASSES. THAT DOES TAKE [4. Discussion and approval of a Right of Way Vacation for 21 Julieanna Cove.] US TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF A RIDE OF WAY VACATION FOR 21 JULIANA COVE. HELLO AGAIN. AND I'M BACK STILL. CHRISTOPHER BUCHAR HERE, UH, PRESENTING ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR A STREET RIGHTAWAY VACATION OF JULIANA STREET THAT IS ABUTTING 21 JULIANA COVE. IN DISTRICT THREE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC JULIANNA COVE ADJACENT TO LAVENDER ROOF. UH, THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER IS PROJECT LCI BELIEVE LAND LTD 21. JULIANA COVE IS A PAVED, DEVELOPED RIGHT OF WAY CALLED SAC. UM, THE VACATION TRACKS ARE APPROXIMATELY TWO PARTS, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UH, PART ONE IS 6,221 SQUARE FEET WITH PART TWO BEING 4,193 SQUARE FEET. HERE WE HAVE A STREET VIEW OF THE CUL-DE-SAC RIGHT OF WAY. THE TOTAL VACATION AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 10,414 SQUARE FEET, UH, ABOUT 0.2391 ACRES. IT'S A PORTION TRACT OF LAND AS PREVIOUSLY STATED BEING TWO PARTS, PART ONE BEING APPROXIMATELY 6,221 SQUARE FEET AND PART TWO BEING APPROXIMATELY 4,193 SQUARE FEET. UH, [00:55:01] THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING HAS CONFIRMED THE ONLY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN 300 FEET OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY VACATION AREA WAS THE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNER PROJECT LLC LAND LDT, UH, WHICH IS ON THIS APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS WERE NOT REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. UM, AND AS OF THIS PRESENTATION, NO OBJECTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. ALL AFFECTED CITY DEPARTMENTS AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS HAVE REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY VACATION. THAT IS ALSO SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS ON THE MASTER COMMENT REPORT. SUBJECT, UH, SUBMITTED WITH THIS PRESENTATION. AND THE CITY WILL RETAIN A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT AS WELL AS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT WITH REQUIRED MAINTENANCE. HOW YOU PLAN TO DEVELOP THE AREA, THE SUBJECT, UH, IS TO THE APPROVAL OF THE PARTIAL VACATION. UH, THE AREA COULD BE DEVELOPED, UH, WITHIN AND WILL BE INCORPORATED WITHIN THE PROJECT, EXCUSE ME. AND THERE IS CURRENTLY NO ACTIVE SITE PLAN. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION PROCESS AND THE APPLICANT. APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, I DID HAVE A QUESTION. 'CAUSE IT SAYS, HOW DO YOU PLAN TO DEVELOP THE AREA? IT SAID IT'LL BE DEVELOPED, INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT. THAT'S A LITTLE, I WOULD, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF YOU CAN TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD BE. UH, HOPEFULLY, YEAH. I GOTTA TURN IT OFF. YES, SIR. HI, I'M RICHARD SUTTLE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT, WHAT THE CUL-DE-SAC DOESN'T WORK TO GET INTERNAL CIRCULATION. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TURN IT INTO A ROAD, BRING IT AROUND IN A U AND CONNECT IT UP TO STRAND COVE ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THERE'LL BE STRAND COVE, JULIANA, AND A, AND A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY IN BETWEEN THE U YOU. BUT BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR ALONG IN THE PLANNING PROCESS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL DIDN'T CARE THAT WE VACATED THE LITTLE WINGS OFF THE CUL-DE-SAC. THAT'S EXTREMELY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? FOR STAFF OR FOR THE, UM, DEVELOPER? DEVELOPER'S? AGENT, PROPERTY OWNER'S AGENT I SHOULD SAY. SO SORRY. SO WHEN YOU SAY, YOU MEAN TO GO BEHIND THAT BUILDING THAT'S ON LA VANDER LOOP? WELL, THAT BUILDING WILL COME DOWN. OKAY. IF YOU CAN, UM, THAT'S THE PROJECT. PULL UP THE PRESENTATION. I COULD MAYBE VISUALLY SHOW IT. I THINK I WELL MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT, YOU COULD PULL UP, GO BACK TO THE STREET. P UH, YEAH, I GUESS IT'S THE SECOND SLIDE. YES, MA'AM. BACK ONE MORE MAYBE. YEAH, IT WAS A LITTLE CLEARER ON THE OTHER ONE. OKAY. SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THIS IS 'CAUSE HE SAID STRAND MAN AND THIS IS JULIANA. THAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A STREET THAT YEAH, YEAH. USED STREET THERE. THERE YOU GO. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. BE PRIVATE BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT IT'S, IT'LL BE A CIRCULATION ROUTE. OKAY. SO BUT THE PROJECT IN QUESTION IS THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THAT BUILDING? WELL, NO, THAT BUILDING WILL COME DOWN. IT'LL BE ALL NEW BUILDINGS IN THERE. RIGHT. DEVELOPMENT OF THAT BUILDING INTO SOMETHING ELSE. YES. YES. OKAY. GOT IT. I'M SUCH A NERD THAT, THAT, THAT LENDS YOU BELIEVE THAT BUILDING WILL STAY, BUT IT WON'T . IT'S AN OLD MILK FACTORY. OH, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL OF THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY, I'LL TAKE, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOBSON. I HAD A COUPLE COMPETITORS FOR THAT ONE. UM, I'M SORRY. NO, IT'S OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. UH, SO I'LL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE ON THAT ONE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE VACATION THAT IS UNANIMOUS OF THOSE HERE. GREAT. THANK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES BRING [5. Discussion and approval of a possible recommendation on the Director Rules for the Residential Permit Parking program] US TO ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION ON THE DIRECTOR RULES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING, RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PARKING PROGRAM. I ALWAYS WANNA REVERSE THOSE TWO. WE HAVE A COUPLE PRESENTERS UP HERE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I'M LEWIS LEFT. I'M AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS. WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING ON THE PROPOSED RULES FOR RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PARKING. [01:00:01] UH, COUPLE OF THINGS TO START. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A RESULT OF CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION IN FEBRUARY, UH, ENABLING US TO DEVELOP FORMAL RULES FOR THIS PROGRAM. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE UNDER, UH, GENERAL GUIDELINES, I THINK BACK TO 1997, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND SO THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MORE FORMALLY DEVELOP RULES THAT WE CAN THEN APPLY CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, ESPECIALLY AS WE SEE A LOT OF CHANGES AROUND POLICIES REGARDING, UH, DEVELOPMENTS AND, AND PARKING WITHIN DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT ON STREET PARKING AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JOSEPH, WHO'S GONNA LEAD THE PRESENTATION TODAY. GOOD EVENING, UH, COMMISSIONERS. UH, JOSEPH HORY, PARKING ENTERPRISE MANAGER, UH, TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS. UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING ME, UH, THIS EVENING. UM, I'M GONNA KIND OF GO THROUGH THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS. I KNOW THAT WE DID, UM, THE SIMILAR PRESENTATION AT MOBILITY COMMITTEE ON APRIL 17TH. SO A LOT OF IT'S PROBABLY FAMILIAR, UM, REALLY FOCUSING ON SOME OF, UH, THE LATTER PART OF IT, WHICH IS OUR, UM, CHANGES TO PROPOSED DIRECTOR'S RULES, UM, IN, IN RELATION. IT USED TO BE A GUIDELINE THAT WE'VE NOW PROMULGATED INTO A RULE SET. UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. UM, SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF GET QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF, UM, WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, PROGRAM SNAPSHOTS LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU KNOW IN, IN SURVEY RESULTS, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO DIRECTOR'S RULES. UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THE RPP PROGRAM. LIKE LEWIS MENTIONED, UH, IT WAS CREATED IN 1997, UM, DUE TO OVERFLOW PARKING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS STUDENTS. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ZONE ONE, UH, AROUND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE NORTH UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND THEN IT'S KIND OF GROWN FROM THAT POINT. WE HAD THE FIRST SET OF RULES THAT, UH, I'M SORRY, THE FIRST, UH, SET OF GUIDELINES THAT WERE CREATED IN 1997. UM, AND THEN, UM, EVENTUALLY, UH, UPDATED IN 2011. CURRENTLY, THERE'S 52 DIFFERENT ZONES WITHIN THE CITY. THEY'RE KIND OF SCATTERED. THERE'S NO REALLY, UM, ORDER TO THEM ITSELF. UM, WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZE 'EM BASED OFF OF AREA IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, UM, BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FOLLOW IT A TYPICAL ORDER. UM, AND CURRENTLY THIS, AND THIS IS APPROXIMATE NUMBER, ABOUT 6,000 RPP SPACES CITYWIDE. SO QUICKLY JUST OVERVIEW OF THE, THE CURRENT PROCESS. UM, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT IS SUBMITTED BY, UH, SOMEONE THAT LIVES, UH, ON THE STREET, A RESIDENT ON THE STREET, UM, UH, STAFF REVIEWS THAT, UM, AND, AND, AND DETERMINES WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS, UH, THE, THE CRITERIA THAT IT, IT, IT FITS. UM, AT THAT POINT, WE CREATE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS THAT GO TO, UM, THOSE, THE APPLICANT ITSELF, THAT IT'S THE PETITION ITSELF THAT GOES TO EACH RESIDENT ON THAT STREET. UM, IT HAS TO MEET 60% SUPPORT. UM, IF IT MEETS THAT SUPPORT. UM, THEN WE MOVE ON TO A, UM, PARKING SURVEY. UM, IT'S, IT'S DONE OVER A TWO WEEK PERIOD. UM, AND IT MUST MEET A 75%, UM, AVAILABLE LEGAL PARKING SPACE IS OCCUPIED. UM, AND REALLY IT'S ONLY NEEDED FOR TWO DAYS OF THAT WEEK, UH, OF THOSE TWO, UH, TWO WEEKS. SO, LIKE, IT COULD SHOW 75 ON ONE DAY ON ONE OF THE WEEKS, AND 75% ON THE NEXT WEEK ON TWO DIFFERENT DAYS, AND IT WOULD STILL BE APPROVED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. UM, AND THEN WE GO, ONCE IT'S DONE THROUGH THERE, WE GO THROUGH AN ENGINEER REVIEW, UM, FINALIZE THAT, GET LETTERS OUT TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS, PERMIT DISTRIBUTION, AND SIGNS THEN GO UP. UH, I'M GONNA GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF. I WANTED TO ADD SOME MORE CONTEXT OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'VE APPROVED APPLICATIONS OVER THE YEAR. UM, NOW THIS IS JUST APPROVED APPLICATIONS. DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S BEEN OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DENIED OVER TIME. UM, REALLY STARTED DENYING APPLICATIONS HERE AND THERE. I THINK WE'D PROBABLY START, UM, IN 20 14, 20 13. UM, WE SAW SPIKE, UH, OF APPLICATIONS APPROVED IN THAT TIMEFRAME. UM, AND THEN WE'VE SEEN KIND OF A DROP. UM, OF COURSE, WE'VE, DURING COVID, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UM, I HAVE SOME NUMBERS DOWN THERE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU BACK FROM, UH, LAST YEAR. UM, WE'VE ISSUED 3,413 PERMITS. UM, UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE, OF IT BASED OFF OF RESIDENT PERMITS OR HANG TAGS. UM, IT SAYS TOTAL OVERALL PERMITS. UM, WE'VE HAD 300, UM, 19 OVER LITTLE 1900 HUNDRED, UM, 3 0 1 CSRS LOG. THESE ARE, UH, CSRS TO OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT. SO THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS ABOUT PARKING IN GENERAL. UM, WE DON'T, UH, TYPICALLY RECEIVE CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUESTS FOR LIKE PERMIT ISSUANCE OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THESE ARE ALL VIOLATION OR, UM, AND THEN WE ISSUED, UM, A LITTLE UNDER, UH, 6,500, UM, PARKING CITATIONS. UM, WE HAVE A, UH, ELEVATED, UM, UH, PROGRESSIVE, UM, PERMIT COSTS. SO FIRST PERMIT $20 ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SIXTH PERMIT BEING 70. WE ALSO HAVE TWO OTHER TYPES OF PERMITS, WHICH IS A DAY USE PERMIT. THEY'RE $5 EACH, UM, AS WELL AS A CONSTRUCTION PASS PERMIT, UM, WHICH YOU CAN, UH, GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THOSE PASSES BEFORE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT [01:05:01] FOR 45 DAYS AT A TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE, UM, WE, UH, PUT ON A SURVEY, UM, AND OF COURSE WE'VE COLLECTED FEEDBACK OVER THE YEARS, RIGHT? I'VE RUN THIS PROGRAM, UM, BACK SINCE 2013. AND THEN I'VE HAD OTHER POSITIONS, BUT I'VE BEEN OVER THAT PROGRAM FOR A WHILE. SO THERE'S BEEN TONS OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THROUGH OTHER, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGH OTHER PARKING SURVEYS THAT WE'VE DONE, STUDIES, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS STUDY THAT WE DID. UM, SO A LOT OF THAT FEEDBACK HAS COME FROM THOSE. UM, BUT WE ALSO DID AN ONLINE SURVEY RECENTLY THAT WAS, UH, HELD FOR ABOUT THREE AND A HALF WEEKS, AND WE HAD ENORMOUS RESPONSES. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UM, A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND PARTICIPANTS, UM, 9,000, OVER 9,000 RESPONSES, AND CLOSE TO 3000 COMMENTS. UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE PEOPLE WANTING TO, TO COMMENT ON THE RPP PROGRAM. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS OVER IT. THERE WAS ABOUT SEVEN QUESTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY FOCUSED ON THE RELATIONSHIP TO RPP, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKING FREQUENCY, HOW THEY USED IT, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT PRIORITIZATION, UM, WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS NEAR PUBLIC AMENITIES AND HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT. UM, AND THEN OVERALL PARKING MANAGEMENT PREFERENCES. YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS MAYBE A DIFFERENT SOLUTION THAT THEY WOULD, UM, LOOK INTO. LIKE WE HAVE THE HYBRID OPTION IN SOUTH CONGRESS. UM, AND THEN OVERALL SATISFACTION WITH, UM, THE PROGRAM ITSELF. UM, MOST OF THE RESPONDENT, 62% OF 'EM WERE, UH, DO NOT LIVE IN RPP ZONES. SO THEY DON'T TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, INTERACT WITH THE PROGRAM UNLESS THEY'RE VISITING THE AREA. UM, WHICH ABOUT 41% OF THOSE, UH, OR 41% OF THE RESPONDENTS VISIT WERE JUST VISITORS AND COMMUTERS. UM, AND SO THAT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING. UM, OVERALL, UM, 51% OPPOSE RPP NEAR AMENITIES. THEY, OF COURSE, THEY WANT TO SEE OTHER OPTIONS WITHIN JUST THE STRICT RPP PROGRAM. UM, AND THERE'S THIS, THIS OVERALL UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD LOOK AT OTHER CONTEXTUAL FACTORS WHEN IT COMES TO RPP AS A WHOLE. UM, AND SO METERED, UH, PARKING, UM, ALONG WITH RESIDENT ONLY, WHICH WE HAVE A HYBRID OPTION, WHICH IS SOUTH CONGRESS, ABOUT 34%, UM, SAID THAT THEY WOULD PREFER THAT. UM, IT'S STILL KIND OF SPLIT WHERE 32% SAID THEY WOULD ONLY WANT RPP TIMES, UM, UM, REGULAR TIMES. BUT THAT WAS, UM, PRETTY, UM, INTERESTING ITSELF. AND THEN, UM, OVERALL, 48% ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THE, WITH THE PROGRAM. NOW, AGAIN, BEAR IN MIND THAT MAJORITY OF THE RESPONDENTS DON'T LIVE IN ACTUAL RPP ZONE, SO THEY'RE JUST SATISFIED WITH IT. JUST KNOWING THAT THAT ACCESS TO THE STREET HAS BEEN TAKEN, I THINK THERE'S THIS REAL TENSION BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. IT'S OVERALL, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THE COMMENTS RESIDENTS PRIORITIZE LABILITY AND VISITORS SEEK ACCESS. UM, SO REALLY WE'RE TAKING SOME OF THESE, AND I'M GONNA KEEP ON GOING SLIDES. SORRY, I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE KIND OF GO TO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE. UM, AND SO WE'RE REALLY TAKING THESE COMMENTS AND UNDERSTANDING, UM, HOW WE TO I, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT THOSE WITHIN OUR RULES PROCESS. UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPLEMENTING A HYBRID SYSTEM TO FIND METER PARKING FOR VISITORS, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, HOW THAT WORKS, REALLY FOCUS ON CONTEXTUAL FACTORS, RIGHT? HOW DO WE REALLY LOOK AT RPP ZONES? UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY FOCUSED ON PROMOTING EQUITY, REALLY LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS TO OFFER LOW INCOME RESIDENTS AFFORDABLE PERMITS. UM, AND REALLY OVERALL, I THINK THE SENTIMENT IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A BETTER WAY TO REVIEW CONTEXTUAL FACTORS BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT JUST A STRICT RPP ZONE IS WHAT WE'RE GATHERING FROM THE DATA ITSELF. UM, I'M GO KEEP ON GOING. SORRY, I'M KIND OF GETTING, HEADING MYSELF HERE. UM, I SKIPPED A SLIDE. IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THE SATISFIED, UM, UH, PARKING, I'M SORRY, DISSATISFIED OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF, BUT WANTED TO GIVE SOME REALLY QUICK SNAPSHOTS. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, UM, REALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT PEOPLE HAVE, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING OF RPP IS, IS PRIVATIZED IN THE STREET ITSELF, AND THEY HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH IT. UM, AND REALLY WANT US TO REALLY LOOK INTO OTHER WAYS TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND THOSE DRIVERS. UM, REALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMMENTS I GOT, I THINK THAT WAS INTERESTING IS LIKE, RPP IS A STOP GAP FOR BROADER URBAN PLANNING ISSUES, RIGHT? AND SO THIS REALLY HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT TO REALLY TAKE, YOU KNOW, THE RPP DIRECTOR'S RULES, UM, TO IMPLEMENT A, A FOCUSED PROGRAM. SO LET'S GET INTO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO I WANNA FOCUS ON SOME PROPOSED CHANGES, [01:10:01] UM, REALLY KIND OF GOING DOWN. UM, ONE I THINK IS IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, SO RESIDENTS ON THE STREET, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO ELIGIBILITY FOR, UH, REQUEST RPP, UM, THERE WASN'T A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHO WAS ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO, AND THE, AND THE PROPOSED RULES WOULD REQUIRE THE HOMEOWNER OR AN APPROVED TO SIGNEE. SO IF A RESIDENT LIVES THERE TO RENTER, THEY CAN SPEAK WITH THE HOMEOWNER, THEY CAN DO THAT TOGETHER. UM, BUT IT HAS TO BE FROM THE HOMEOWNER ITSELF. UM, UH, I THINK, UH, THIS IS WHERE IT KIND OF GETS IMPORTANT, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT CONTEXTUAL FACTORS. SO REALLY BEFORE, THERE WAS ONLY ONE THING THAT THE RPP PROGRAM WAS, WHICH WAS RPP, YOU KNOW, WE PICKED THE TIMES, WE PUT IT UP, RESTRICT PEOPLE, ONLY RESIDENTS BEING ABLE TO USE THE STREET. UM, SO NOW WE'RE REVIEWING FOR BEST SOLUTION TO MEET THE NEEDS FOR THOSE AREAS. UM, AND THEN THE RULES, UM, WHICH WE GAVE OUT A DRAFT, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SEVERAL CONTEXTUAL FACTORS THAT NOW WE'RE ABLE TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT, UH, DETERMINE WHAT THOSE DRIVERS ARE FOR THE AREA TO WHAT, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION COULD BE, UM, RATHER THAN JUST A STRICT RPP PROCESS. AND JUST TO JUMP INTO, I THINK, I THINK A CRITICAL PIECE HERE IS THAT INITIALLY APPLICATIONS, SOMEONE COULD SAY, WELL, I JUST WANT RPP 24 7. I JUST WANNA HAVE ACCESS TO IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AT ALL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. AND GENERALLY, I THINK THE STAFF RESPONSE WAS, WELL, IF THAT'S DESIRED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT STREET, WE, WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT FOR, FOR A LOT OF YEARS. IN RECENT YEARS, I THINK WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHTFUL ON THE APPROACH OF WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR OTHER PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT PUBLIC AMENITY THAT, THAT STREET, THAT RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S THERE. AND IS IT REALLY A, A PROBLEM THAT'S HAPPENING 24 7 OR IS IT REALLY A PROBLEM ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHTS? IS IT REALLY A, A PARK NEARBY THAT'S GOT WEDNESDAY ACTIVITIES THAT'S REALLY DRIVING THAT PARKING? AND HOW DO WE SOLVE FOR THAT PROBLEM IN A MORE TARGETED WAY BEFORE WE JUST KIND OF SHUT DOWN PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT STREET AS A WHOLE AT ALL TIMES? SO, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, AGAIN, MAYBE CODIFY IS THE WRONG WORD, BUT PUT INTO THE RULES THAT WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT ABOUT HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WHAT DEFINING THAT PROBLEM REALLY WELL WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT, AND THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE INTERESTED AND BE ABLE TO PUT A SOLUTION IN THAT THAT ADDRESSES IT. AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND TWEAK IF NEEDED. RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES OR RULES FOR IT, BUT IT WAS, UM, THE WOODS OF WESTLAKE AREA WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR TRAILHEAD THERE AND THEY NEEDED, THEY APPLIED FOR RP. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION. 'CAUSE WE WOULD, DIDN'T WANNA RESTRICT ACCESS TO A PUBLIC AMENITY. UM, AND SO THIS IS WHERE THE CONTEXTUAL ISSUES, UM, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE USES ARE, UM, AND NOT USE SUCH A RIGID WAY OF LOOKING AT RPP, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE BEST, YOU KNOW, CURB MANAGEMENT SOLUTION FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL AS FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE THE SPACE. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING DOWN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF NOTES THERE I THINK THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, WE USED TO, APPLICANTS USED TO PAY FOR AND INSTALL SIGNS. UM, WE WANNA TAKE, YOU KNOW, UM, OWNERSHIP OF THAT, UM, TO THAT PROCESS. SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, UH, CREATE A GENERAL SIGN THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT OUT THERE ONCE THEY GET THROUGH A CERTAIN PROCESS. UM, WITH OUR PHONE NUMBERS ON IT, WE'VE NOTICED THERE'S SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME, SOME OF THE SURVEY RESPONSES WE RECEIVED THAT, THAT, THAT WAS AN ISSUE. UM, AND THEN OVER LEVEL, LEVEL OF SUPPORT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF MAKE CONSISTENT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF LEVEL SUPPORT REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE CURRENT GUIDELINES. ONE OF THOSE IS 60%. ONE IS THOSE IS 66.72 THIRDS. UM, AND THAT WAS FOR R-P-P-V-M-U THAT IS ESTABLISHED THROUGH AN ORDINANCE. IF YOU LIVE WITHIN A, UM, 600 UH, FEET WITHIN A VME CORRIDOR, UM, YOU'RE AFFORDED AN EXPEDITED PROCESS FOR RPP. UM, BUT IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE EXPEDITED PROCESS, YOU HAD TO GET TWO THIRDS OF, OF, OF THE RESIDENCE TO, UM, APPROVE IT. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS, IS STUDY, UM, THE PARKING STUDY ITSELF. UM, SO REALLY KIND OF GOING, YOU KNOW, MORE UNDERSTANDING OF JUST NOT TWO DAYS, BUT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DRIVER? IS IT AN AVERAGE? SO LOOKING AT THE TWO WEEKS AND IS IT A 75% AVERAGE OVERALL RATHER THAN JUST PICKING TWO DAYS OF THE WEEK, UM, OR TWO, TWO, YOU KNOW, DAYS OF BOTH WEEKS, THAT 75%. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS, UM, 25% OF COMMUTERS AND NON-RESIDENTS ON THE STREET. SO WE, RIGHT NOW, IT CURRENTLY REQUIRES THAT 25% OF THE 75% BE COMMUTERS, MEANING THAT 50% OF 'EM ARE RESIDENTS. SO THE PROBLEM ITSELF, 50% WOULD BE RESIDENTS ON THE STREET CAUSING PARKING PROBLEMS. SO WE'RE GOING , WE, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT MORE. AND SO WE'RE RAISING THAT UP TO 50% COMMUTER, NON-RESIDENT, UM, LOOKING AT PERMIT TYPES, REALLY NOT MAJOR CHANGES HERE. THE REAL FOCUS IS CREATING AN AFFORDABLE, UH, ACCESS TO THE PROGRAM. UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MIRROR, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN JUST CAP, UM, AND, AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO IMPLEMENT SIMILAR, UH, CONTROLS THERE. UM, THAT GOES ACTUALLY THROUGH A DIFFERENT FEE STRUCTURE. UM, [01:15:01] WE HAVE TO GET THAT APPROVED THROUGH, UM, OUR FEE SCHEDULE THROUGH THE BUDGET. UM, IF WE, IF IMPLEMENT THAT. UM, ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, AGAIN, THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR PERMITS. SO PERMIT ELIGIBILITY, UM, RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY IT REQUIRES PROOF OF, UH, RESIDENCY, UM, REGISTRATION WAS REQUIRED. THAT CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY IN WEST CAMPUS WHEN YOU HAVE RENTERS COMING OVER. REGISTRATION, UM, NECESSARILY IS AT MOM AND DAD'S HOUSE. CAN'T REALLY VERIFY THAT. UM, BUT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT A WAY TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WERE USING PERMITS AT THE LOCATION AND, AND FIND A, A STREAMLINED WAY OF, OF HAVING ELIGIBILITY. AND SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS, UH, STATE TEXT REQUIRES, YOU KNOW, UH, YOUR VEHICLE INSURANCE, UM, BE UPDATED TO SHOW THAT IT'S AT THE HOUSE, YOU'RE LIVING YOUR LIVABLE SPACE. UM, SO SOMETHING WE'RE ADDING AS ADD A LAYER TO ELIGIBILITY. UM, I THINK ANOTHER BIG KEY THING IS WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR REEVALUATION. UM, AND SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT UNDERSTANDING HOW TO CREATE A REEVALUATION PROCESS TO LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, LEGACY ZONES THAT WE HAVE. UM, HOW DO WE REVIEW THOSE PROCESS, HOW THEIR USES ARE, UM, DOING PERIODIC PARKING STUDIES TO UNDERSTAND IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING USED. UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UM, NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH PERMITS IF THEY'RE PURCHASING PERMITS OR NOT, UM, AND ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM. UM, AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT KIND OF WHAT WE SAID BEFORE, IS THOSE CONTEXTUAL ISSUES, HAVE THEY CHANGED? UM, THOSE, THOSE DRIVERS, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WITHIN THOSE DEMAND DRIVERS. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, ENFORCEMENT. UM, REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, CREATING A CRITERIA FOR MISUSE IN CHRONIC VIOLATIONS. UH, AND IT, AND IT BEING ABLE TO CREATE AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTER ENFORCEMENT OF ANY TYPE OF MISUSE OR VIOLATIONS ITSELF. IT NEVER REALLY LAID OUT THAT BEFORE. IT WAS A BROAD DIRECTOR'S AUTHORITY. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE SEE IT, UM, OKAY, SHAME ON YOU. WE SHOULDN'T DO IT AGAIN. THIS KIND OF GIVES A BETTER, UM, UH, PROCESS FOR US TO MANAGE THAT AND AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR THOSE THAT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BEING, UM, MISUSED ON, ON THE VIOLATION ITSELF. OKAY. SLIDE HERE. SO THE SLIDE DECK GOES THROUGH A, A LENGTHY REVIEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER ALL THE BASES. AND SO WE, UH, WE CREATED THIS A FEW WEEKS BACK. UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE DID COMMUNICATE AT MOBILITY COMMITTEE. UM, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY PUSHED BACK THIS TIMEFRAME BY ABOUT A WEEK, UH, WITH THE NUMBER OF SURVEY RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED, A LOT OF THE PUBLIC INPUT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAD A CHANCE TO DIGEST ALL OF THAT. WE ALSO KNEW THAT WE WERE BECOMING HERE ON THE SIXTH. AND SO WE HAVE NOT POSTED THE RULES YET, UH, STILL IN DRAFT REVIEW, LEGAL REVIEW, UH, SOME INTERNAL REVIEW AS WELL, SOME OF OUR ENGINEERING TEAMS. SO WE WILL BE AIMING TO POST THESE ON THE 12TH. IT'LL BE JUST A ONE WEEK DELAY, WHICH PUSHES ALL OF THESE BACK BY ONE WEEK. SO THIS RULES PROCESS IS DEFINED IN THE CODE. WE'VE GOTTA FOLLOW, UH, THE TIMEFRAME FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON THE DRAFT RULE ON THE RULES THEMSELVES ONCE THEY'RE PUBLIC. AND THEN WE HAVE ABOUT A MONTH TO TURN THOSE AROUND WITH, WITH COMMENTS ON EACH OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVE AND, AND STATE WHETHER THAT'S, UM, CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE, IN THE RULES THAT WERE POSTED OR, UM, OR WHY WE MIGHT DISAGREE WITH THAT. AND THEN WE'LL BE, UH, ADOPTING THE RULE ITSELF ABOUT A WEEK LATER FROM THE JULY 10TH DATE. SO ABOUT, UH, MID-JULY, JULY 17TH WOULD BE THAT TIMEFRAME. SO THAT ACTUALLY WRAPS UP OUR PRESENTATION, LOOKING FORWARD TO DISCUSSION AND, AND HOPEFULLY ADD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DRAFT, UH, RULES THAT WERE SENT OVER AS WELL. VERY HELPFUL. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO KICK US OFF. SO THE ONE IS JUST A, UM, TIMELINE QUESTION. UM, SO OUR NEXT MEETING OF THIS BODY IS ON JUNE 4TH. AND, UM, I KNOW MYSELF AND A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION ARE REALLY, REALLY INTERESTED IN OUR PP, BUT WITH THE TIMING OF WHEN WE GOT THE INFO AND THE RULE, EVERYTHING, WE'RE NOT READY. BUT WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR YOUR PRESENTATION. BUT, UM, IF WE WERE TO DO A REC AT OUR JUNE 4TH MEETING, WHICH IS YOUR LAST DAY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR OFFICIAL, UH, PROCESS? EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE AFTER 5:00 PM I'M SURE THAT WE WOULD PASS THAT , UH, WITH, WITH THE DATES BEING PUSHED BACK A WEEK, THAT ACTUALLY WON'T BE THE LAST DAY. OH. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF, OH, OKAY. EVEN ONE MORE WEEK. OKAY. GOT PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS. SO YOU SHOULD BE GOOD THERE. OKAY, GREAT. THAT IS GOOD NEWS. SO I THINK YOU CAN ANTICIPATE THAT, UM, A COUPLE OF US ARE INTERESTED IN DOING ERECT, SO I THINK WE COULD ANTICIPATE THAT. UM, I DID HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. SO I REALLY REMEMBER WELL IN 2015 WHEN THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION OF, UH, OF THE RPPS, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, I MEAN, IT REALLY IS QUITE NOTICEABLE OF PARTICULARLY 2015. AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A NEWS ARTICLE AROUND TOWN AT THAT TIME. PEOPLE WERE NOTICING THEM GOING IN AND IN SOME CASES SURPRISED BY THEM. AND ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WAS HAPPENING AT THAT POINT WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE PROGRAM PAID FOR ITSELF. SO LIKE, WHETHER OR NOT THE PERMITS AND THE MAYBE ANYTHING COLLECTED THROUGH FEES FROM VIOLATIONS OR, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WHETHER THAT SORT OF COVERED THE COST OF RUNNING THE PROGRAM. WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS THERE? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE NUMBER OF, UM, PERMIT, UH, RPPS THAT ARE PROPOSED, AND YOUR PROCESSING [01:20:01] CLEARLY HAS SIGNIFICANTLY GONE DOWN SINCE THE, UH, 2010S. BUT, UM, COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THE PROGRAM GENERATE? DOES IT COVER ITS COSTS? I DON'T KNOW HOW INTERESTED I AM IN THAT ANYMORE, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY A BIG CONVERSATION POINT AT THAT POINT, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER QUITE WELL. YES, I DO. UM, APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. I THINK, UM, SO NO, IT SIMPLE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO, IT DOES NOT. UM, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME, THE FOCUS WAS, IS A QUALITY OF LIFE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, WITH RPP. UM, AND WE GENERALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PROCESS CHANGE OVER TIME WHERE, WHERE PERMITS WERE ISSUED BY, UM, ACTUAL, UH, COMMUNITY LEADERS. SO THEY WERE ISSUED OUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN TO THEM. THERE WAS NO REAL ACCOUNTING FOR THAT. UM, WHEN I TOOK OVER THE PROGRAM, WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO BRING THAT BACK IN. SO YES, WE DID RECOUP FUNDS TO GET TO A BETTER POINT WITHIN THE PROGRAM ITSELF, BUT OVER TIME, AS YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY TRIED TO STREAMLINE AND MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE. THAT IS COSTLY, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DIGITAL PERMITS, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, MORE ENFORCEMENT, THE SPREADING OUT OF WHERE RPP ZONES ARE, AS WELL AS JUST IN GENERAL RPP TIMES BEING SO DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT AREAS. BEING ABLE TO COORDINATE THAT OPERATIONALLY AND CREATE THE LOGISTICS TO GET TO THOSE, UM, DEFINITELY CREATE CHALLENGES. SO THE PROGRAM ITSELF, UM, DEFINITELY DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR ITSELF, RIGHT? UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE THAT AROUND AND FIND WAYS TO DO THAT. I THINK THE HYBRID PROGRAM THAT WE IMPLEMENTED IN SOUTH CONGRESS, WE'VE SEEN GREAT RESULTS SO FAR FROM THAT. UM, AND THAT IS JUST ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO REPAY FOR THOSE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING RENDERED AND STILL GIVE THE SAME TYPE OF ACCESS TO RESIDENTS TO, TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE CONSIDERATIONS FOR QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THEY NEED. AND JUST A LITTLE EXTRA CONTEXT TOO, I MEAN, THE, THE PERMITS THEMSELVES, TYPICALLY WE ADJUST OVER TIME TO REFLECT THE COST OF SERVICE MM-HMM . AND SO WHEN YOU'RE IN AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE METERED PARKING, THE, THE COST OF THE SERVICE IS JUST THE COST FOR US TO PROCESS THAT PERMIT. SO WE TAKE THE APPLICATION, WE DO THE PETITION PIECE AND SURVEY, AND SO THAT, THAT HAS ADJUSTED OVER TIME. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WE WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT, AND IT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THE RULES, BUT IT WOULD BE PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, IS TAKING A LOOK AT THE COST OF THOSE PERMITS AND, AND IS IT SUFFICIENTLY COVERING THE ENFORCEMENT ELEMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COVERED IN THE PAST. UM, WHEN WE HAVE A HYBRID RPP AND METERED SITUATION, WE CAN MORE CLEARLY DEFINE THE VALUE OF WHAT THE NUMBER OF HOURS OF, OF PARKING IS TAKING UP AND HOW THAT REFLECTS WHAT THE METERED HOURS WOULD'VE BEEN. SO WE HAVE A MORE QUANTIFIABLE, I THINK, APPROACH THERE BEYOND JUST THE COST OF SERVICE OF THE, OF THE STAFF ITSELF. SO WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. AND, UM, FOR THE ENFORCEMENT, IS IT MAINLY DONE THROUGH COMPLAINTS AND 3 1 1 CALLS, OR IS ARE THEY PATROLLING THIS LIKE WITH, YOU KNOW, REGULARLY? IT'S MORE THROUGH COMPLAINTS? YES. IT'S, IT'S TYPICALLY COMPLAINT DRIVEN. NOW, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE SEE HIGH VOLUME OF COMPLAINTS IN AN AREA, WE WOULD DO MORE REGULAR ROUTINE ENFORCEMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THE OTHER COMPLAINT IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SUNDAY ENFORCEMENT. WE STILL DON'T HAVE SUNDAY ENFORCEMENT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO EXPANDING TO. AND SO A LOT OF THESE RPP ZONES THAT EXPAND INTO SUNDAY, THAT'S WHERE GENERALLY THE COMPLAINTS FROM OR THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT FROM THE SURVEY FOCUSED AROUND THOSE, RIGHT? WE NEED MORE ENFORCEMENT ON SUNDAYS. OH. UM, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH, THE ENFORCEMENT IN SOME AREAS, LIKE IF WE HAVE METERED AREAS THAT ARE CLOSE BY, UM, CAN BE ROUTINELY, YOU KNOW, MONITORED, UM, BUT THEY'RE TYPICALLY COMPLAINT DRIVEN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, 3 1 1 CSR SYSTEM. YEAH. OKAY. I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION, AND MAYBE YOU SAID THIS, BUT IT'S, UH, KIND OF STEMMING FROM THE TABLE, I GUESS, ON SLIDE 11, WHERE IT'S UNDER PERMIT TYPES AND IT SAYS NUMBER OF PERMITS EQUALS ONSITE PARKING AVAILABILITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH, SO MY HUSBAND LIVED IN CHICAGO FOR MANY YEARS. ON THE STREET HE USED TO LIVE IN WAS JUST ROW AF. IT WAS LIKE A FULL STREET OF THREE FLATS THAT HAD NO DRIVEWAYS, AND THERE WAS RPP THERE, RIGHT? BUT THAT WAS LIKE PRETTY DENSE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOUSING THERE WITH NO DRIVEWAYS AND NO PARKING. BUT MOST OF THE PARTS OF AUSTIN THAT HAVE RPPS WERE ACTUALLY BUILT AT TIMES WHERE THEY WERE PROVIDED SOME OFF STREET PARKING, WHETHER IT BE IN A DRIVEWAY, CARPORT GARAGE, OR WHATEVER. SO I THINK THAT LIKE CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW MUCH PARKING IS AVAILABLE TO SOMEONE ON THEIR PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE NOW HAVE ELIMINATED PARKING MINIMUM IS IN PARKING REQUIREMENTS CITYWIDE, BUT I THINK CONSIDERING THAT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE RPP, IS THAT WHAT THAT'S GETTING AT THERE? DID YOU SAY THAT? AND I JUST MISSED THAT, BUT YEAH, I, I, I DID KIND OF, UH, GRAZE OVER IT AND DIDN'T REALLY MENTION IT, BUT YES, IT, IT IS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ABILITY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF PERMITS EQUALING ONSITE PARKING AVAILABILITY, MEANING THAT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S AVAILABLE ON SITE, COULD, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE, COULD DETERMINE HOW MANY PERMITS YOU GET, RIGHT? UM, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT AND HOW TO ADMINISTER OVER TIME. WE STILL HAVE TO, TO REVIEW THAT THROUGH A PERMANENT, UH, PERMANENT DISTRIBUTION PROCESS. UM, BUT OVERALL, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY. SOME OF THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED BACK IN THE SURVEY, UH, REALLY FOCUS AROUND STREETS THAT [01:25:01] HAVE RPP, BUT HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING ON SITE, RIGHT? UM, THOSE ARE, AGAIN, ANOTHER OTHER CONTEXTUAL ISSUES THAT MAYBE WE CATCH ON THE FRONT END, RATHER THAN NOW WE HAVE RPP ZONES THAT ARE LEGACY, THAT CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ACCESS THAT DON'T BUY PERMITS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE LARGE DRIVEWAYS OR HAVE PARKING AVAILABILITY, THINK IT'S REALLY CONTEXT DRIVEN. UM, SO WE'RE REALLY INVESTIGATING HOW TO BEST ADMINISTER THAT, UH, THROUGH THESE DRAFT RULES. THAT MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT. UM, I'M DONE WITH MY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER. YEAH. UM, AND I, YOU ALL ARE BLURRY FOR ME, SO IF I AM CUTTING IN OR OUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, LET ME KNOW. UM, BUT THANK YOU GUYS, AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU SENDING OVER THE DRAFT, UM, BEFORE, EVEN THOUGH I'M SURE IT'S CHANGED. SO PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M SAYING ANYTHING AND YOU, YOU KNOW, IT'S CHANGED SINCE THEN. ONE QUESTION I HAD, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT TO START, I SAW THAT IN THE DEFINITION OF RESIDENT SAID IT MEANS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO LEGALLY RESIDES AT SPECIFIC ADDRESS WITHIN A DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL AREA AND IS ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE PARKING PRIVILEGES UNDER THIS PROGRAM. IS THAT STILL THE DEFINITION YOU GUYS ARE WORKING WITH? UH, YES, I BELIEVE SO. IT HASN'T CHANGED. OKAY. SO, SO HERE'S MY CONCERN. IT IS, I, I THINK RPP MAKES TOTAL SENSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT IS SUFFERING FROM THE IMPACTS OF, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS, RIGHT? LIKE I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS IS CHERRYWOOD, WHERE YOU HAVE MAINOR ROAD WITH VERY LIMITED PARKING. IT'S A HIGH COMMERCIAL AREA. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE RPP IN THAT AREA IN SOME PLACES, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE A PARKING LOT. NOBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE CURB. THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT I HAVE SEEN SOME FOLKS TRY TO WEAPONIZE THIS PROGRAM TO TRY TO GO AFTER CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE SINGLE FAMILY, HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS ARE USING THE PROGRAM TO PREVENT PEOPLE LIVING IN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING FROM PARKING ON THE STREET. AND THAT SEEMS ANTITHETICAL TO THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM AND FRANKLY, THE VALUES OF THE CITY. AND MY CONCERN WITH THAT DEFINITION IS IF THE DEFINITION OF A RESIDENT IS SOMEONE WHO LIVES ON THE STREET AND IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM, I WOULD THEN THINK THE DEFINITION OF A NON-RESIDENT WOULD FOLLOW. THAT'S ANYONE WHO'S NOT A RESIDENT. SO IT, SINCE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN MULTIFAMILY UNITS WITH OVER SIX UNITS ARE EXCLUDED, RIGHT? ANYONE IN A LARGE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING COMPLEX IS CONSIDERED A NON-RESIDENT. SO ANY RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, DEFINED AS, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS IN SIX UNITS OR LESS WHO WANTS TO TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR STREET CAN APPLY. AND ONE OF THE CONTEXTUAL FACTORS IS NON-RESIDENT HIGH DEMAND OF NON-RESIDENT PARKING. SO I GUESS, IS THAT HOW YOU GUYS SEE THAT? IS THAT WHAT THE INTENTION IS? OR IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN WORK TO TIGHTEN THAT UP? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT POINT. I THINK THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE SURVEY RESPONSES THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT AND, AND JUST FEEDBACK OVER THE YEARS IS WHAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, UNITS IN A MULTIFAMILY THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM. AND WHEN YOU GET INTO LIKE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SETTING THAT I THINK WE'RE, WE TYPICALLY THINK OF WITH RPP AND WHERE IT'S BEEN APPLIED FOR IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET TO A 10, 12, 14 UNIT KIND OF PLACE THAT'S RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THAT, THAT COULD VERY EASILY TAKE UP ALL THE PARKING SPACES ON THE STREET, RIGHT? AND, AND THEN IT BECOMES A, WELL, ARE THESE, THEY'RE NOT COMMUTERS BY ANY MEANS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEARBY, BUT THEY COULD TAKE UP ALL THE, UH, SPACES IN FRONT OF ALL THE OTHER HOMES, UH, AND UNITS ON THAT STREET. AND SO THAT, THAT DYNAMIC OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR IS REALLY TRICKY OF WHAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER. I THINK WE'VE STUCK WITH WHAT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN THE SIX UNITS OR LESS IN A MULTIFAMILY. UH, BUT IF THAT'S A DISCUSSION POINT THAT Y'ALL WANNA HAVE AND, AND PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK ON, I THINK WE'D BE OPEN TO THAT. UH, I, I DON'T THINK, UH, AS WE DEFINE RESIDENT IN HERE, IT'S JUST RELATIVE TO THIS DIRECTOR'S RULE SET, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, TO DEFINE A RESIDENT FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN BY ANY MEANS, JUST RELATIVE TO THIS PROGRAM. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? AND THEN, YEAH, I GUESS YOU'RE ACCURATE IN SAYING THAT THAT MEANS IF IF YOU'RE NOT IN THAT DEFINITION, THEN YOU'D BE CONSIDERED NOT A RESIDENT RELATED TO THIS PROGRAM. SO OPEN TO FEEDBACK FOR SURE. YEAH. AND I CAN, IF I, IF I WILL, I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT TO THAT. 'CAUSE I THINK THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO, TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE FRONT LINE OF THIS AND UNDERSTANDING CONTEXTUAL DRIVERS. ONE OF THOSE COULD BE IS HOW MANY MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES ARE ON THIS BLOCK? WHO IS ACTUALLY CAUSING THE PARKING DEMAND? IS IT ACTUALLY NON-COM COMMUTERS OR IS IT RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, FROM NEARBY AREAS? TYPICALLY, IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN THE PROGRAM IN, IN THE APPLICATIONS I DID DENY IN THE PAST WERE, BECAUSE THEY WERE RESIDENTS FIGHTING IT RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . REALLY FOCUSED ON TAKING UP TOO MUCH. AND SO WE WOULD JUST HELP THEM TRY TO DETERMINE HOW TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER AND, AND TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THEMSELVES. SO I THINK REALLY USING THESE CONTEXTUAL UNDERSTANDING, THEN WE WOULD SWITCH TO SAYING, WELL, MAYBE TRADITIONAL RPP IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS FOCUSED FOR THE STREET, AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK INTO AS A HYBRID, RIGHT? WHICH STILL ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO USE THAT STREET. UM, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BECAUSE RESIDENTS FROM THE MULTIFAMILY ARE PARKING AND STAGING VEHICLES FOR TOO LONG, AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO, [01:30:01] UM, MOTIVATE THEM TO MOVE AND, AND FIND BETTER PLACES, UM, STILL GIVEN ACCESS TO THOSE RESIDENTS TO USE THAT STREET IN SOME WAY. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T JUST BE A STRICT RPP SITUATION. YEAH. AND, AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, I, I UNDERSTAND WHY LARGE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS RIGHT, CANNOT TAKE PART IN TRADITIONAL RPP, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD, IT, IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO FIX AN OVERARCH CURVE. UM, I THINK, AGAIN, AND I THINK YOU HIT ON THIS AND YOU, YOU'RE DEFINITELY CORRECT IN THAT I HAVE SEEN TPW REJECT APPLICATIONS WHERE FOLKS ARE DOING THAT. I, I THINK WE MAYBE JUST NEED TO MAKE THOSE CONTEXTUAL FACTORS A LITTLE BIT CLEARER. 'CAUSE THE WAY I'M READING IT, I THINK THERE IS AN OPENING FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BASICALLY DEFINE, UH, UH, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS AS NON-RESIDENTS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE RPP PROGRAM AND KICK THEM OFF OF THE ACCESS TO THEIR OWN STREET. UM, GOING BACK ONTO THAT, AGAIN, I GET WHY WE MULTIFAMILY ON RPP TRADITIONALLY WOULD BE DIFFICULT. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY A MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, UH, DEVELOPMENT, WHY THEY CAN'T HAVE ACCESS TO VISITOR PARKING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE WAY TO DO VISITOR PARKING IS YOU DETERMINE HOW MANY YOU CAN FIT ON THIS STREET, AND THEN IT'S A FREE FOR ALL RIGHT? WHOEVER GETS THE FIRST PERMITS, THEY GET IT FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. I DON'T GET WHY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, LOW RISE RESIDENTS SHOULD GET PRIORITY OVER MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTS IN THOSE INSTANCES. I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT COMMENT. UM, AND I THINK WE CAN TAKE THAT BACK AND, AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SEE HOW THAT FITS INTO THE OVERALL RULE SET. WE TRY, UM, OUR BEST NOT TO PRIORITIZE ONE RESIDENT OVER ANOTHER ON THE STREET SELF. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT AND NOT ALLOWING, UM, MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, UM, TO HAVE VISITOR PERMITS OR TO BE ACCESS TO THEIR PROGRAM COULD BE AN ISSUE. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN ON TO LOOK INTO HOW WE BETTER, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THAT OVER THROUGH DIFFERENT PROCESS, RIGHT. LIKE HYBRID OR OTHER THINGS. RIGHT. UM, BECAUSE I THINK REALLY LOOKING AT THE HYBRID MODEL REALLY ALLOWS US TO UNDERSTAND FOR VISITORS. SO LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN JUST, AND, AND JUST ANECDOTALLY FROM SOUTH CONGRESS IS THAT SOME MAY NOT BUY RESIDENT, UH, VISITOR PERMITS ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER FOR THEM, FOR THEIR RESIDENT JUST TO PAY FOR THE RESIDENTS FOR A COUPLE HOURS FOR METERED PARKING THAN IT IS FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BUY A PERMIT YEAR ROUND. UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE NEED TO EVALUATE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SEEING HOW THAT CREATES MORE ACCESS. UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. I THINK WE CAN REALLY, UM, TAKE THAT BACK AND LEARN FROM IT. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN I, I THINK THE, THE LAST QUESTION I WANT TO ASK IS, I, I THINK YOU SAW A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT RENTERS, RIGHT? NOT FEELING LIKE THEY CAN BE A PART OF THE PROGRAM. UM, AND I, I, THERE DEFINITELY ARE WAVES FOR RENTERS TO, TO PARTICIPATE. UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU ARE LIVING IN A LARGE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX, THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE HERE. HAVE, HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE, ESPECIALLY WITH HYBRID, WHERE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY, THERE'S SOME SORT OF BENEFIT, UH, COMMENSURATE WITH WHAT WE'RE GIVING SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS TO MULTIFAMILY, UH, UH, UH, RESIDENTS ON THEIR STREETS. YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE LOADING ZONES, WHICH ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. UH, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING MULTIFAMILY, UH, YOU KNOW, CODES FOR, FOR CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF PARKING TO GIVE THE VISITORS, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR FREE PARKING THAT YOU CAN USE ONCE A WEEK ON A CODE IN THE APP. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WOULD THESE RULES BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AS TO HOW WE CAN CREATE A COMMENSURATE BENEFIT FOR MULTIFAMILY, UH, UH, RESIDENTS? YEAH, I, I THINK OVERALL IN THE FUTURE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST ITERATION, AND I'M SURE WE'LL BE COMING BACK AT SOME POINT TO, TO MAKE FUTURE CHANGES. UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT THE CURRENT, UH, THE PARK, A TX APP ALLOWS FOR 30 MINUTES FREE DAILY, UM, WITH TWO PARKING CODES. SO THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO USE THOSE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE PARKED IN HYBRID HYBRID ZONES. WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, PILOTING A, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IF IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A HUNTER'S PERMIT, IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, FOR MULTI-FAMILIES, UM, PROPERTIES IN SOUTH CONGRESS, UM, WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN GOOD RESULTS FROM IT YET. WE NEED TO, TO EVALUATE A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, BASED OFF OF OCCUPANCY, CERTAIN NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT'D BE, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED FOR THE, THE COMPLEX TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS THERE, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN MONTHLY COST AND THEN THEY'D BE ABLE TO USE RPP AROUND IT. UM, SO, AND, AND THIS IS IN A HYBRID AREA, BUT WE HAVEN'T, AGAIN, IT'S ONLY BEEN USED A COUPLE TIMES AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY FULLY UNDERSTOOD HOW THAT WORKS. AND THAT COULD BE DEFINITELY INCORPORATED IN FUTURE ITERATIONS OF OUR RULE SETS. AND I'LL, AND I'LL SAY THIS TO COMMISSIONER, THE, THE ABILITY FOR THE DIRECTOR TO PROVIDE A CODE FOR, UM, DISCOUNTED PARKING IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE, THE 12 DASH THREE AND 12 DASH FIVE CODE SECTIONS THAT WE, UH, ADOPTED IN FEBRUARY MM-HMM . AND SO IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE WITHIN THESE RULES, BUT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY ALREADY IN CITY CODE TO DO THAT. UM, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE COST OF PERMITS, THE, THE [01:35:01] FEES FOR, UM, UH, FOR THE PERMITS THEMSELVES AND VISITOR PASSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, ALL OF THOSE HAPPEN WITHIN THE BUDGET CYCLE WITH THE FEE SCHEDULE. AND SO IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THESE RULES, BUT I THINK AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, AND WE DID AS WELL, IT'S, IT'S ALL RELATED, RIGHT? AND HOW DO WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN ENABLE SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THOSE BENEFITS TO BE SHARED AMONG PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT STREET? I THINK IT'S JUST BASED ON THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES OF THE PAST. IT'S PRETTY RARE TO HAVE SUCH A LARGE APARTMENT BUILDING NEARBY WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES JUST 'CAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER TIME. AND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SEE FREQUENTLY THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO SOLVE FOR, UM, IMMEDIATELY, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, MIGHT JUST BE CHANGING OVER TIME AS WE GET MORE AND MORE DENSE AND, AND CODES HAVE CHANGE AND LDC HAS CHANGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YEAH. I I THINK THE LAST THING I'LL ADD IS I ALSO THINK HYBRID PARKING IS GONNA OPEN UP MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR IT TO START HAPPENING, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. CAN WE DEFINE WHAT HYBRID PARKING IS? SORRY, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE TERM MEANS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. SORRY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. IT. SO, HYBRID PARKING, UM, IS A BLEND OF, OF A COUPLE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS. TYPICALLY, IT'S PAID PARKING, THAT IS THE, THE MAIN REGULATION ITSELF. UM, AND THEN WE OVERLAY, UH, OTHER RESTRICTIONS BASED OFF THE NEED AND AREA. IN THIS CASE, IT'D BE RPP. SO, UM, PAID PARKING DURING THE DAY, UM, AND THEN IT'D BE, IT TURNS INTO RESIDENT ONLY AT NIGHT. BUT IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENT PERMIT, YOU CAN PARK THERE ALL DAY LONG WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY THE METER. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE BY. THANK, THANK YOU. THIS WAS A VERY HELPFUL DISCUSSION AND I APPRECIATE HOW THOUGHTFUL YOU GUYS ARE. ARE ARE APPROACHING THIS. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, I'M SEEING A, I THINK I SEE SEVERAL HANDS, SO I KNOW I SAW COMMISSIONER BFO. OH, I THOUGHT, NO, NOT COMMISSIONER. I I'M SEEING YOU OUTTA THE SIDE OF MY EYE. OUR, OUR ATTEND, UH, AUDIENCE MEMBER. I'M SORRY. UM, AND I ALSO SAW COMMISSIONER PRASAD, SO, UM, AND, AND JACOBSON AS WELL. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I DID SEE YOUR HAND. OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT THREE FOLKS IN HERE. I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER BUFFO FIRST. UM, I HAVE TO ASK BEFORE I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS, IF I RUN OUTTA HERE AND USE THE BATHROOM. IS I GONNA LIKE, MESS UP THE WHOLE MEETING? NO, WE'RE OKAY. I'M GONNA DO IT. WE'RE, WE'RE ABOVE COURT. UM, I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. UM, ONE ABOUT THE, ON THE NOTE OF, UM, UH, MULTI-FAMILY HOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. UM, I WONDER IF YOU GUYS HAVE EXPLORED THE, LIKE, NUMBER OF PERMITS PER HOUSEHOLD. UM, I, IT STILL AMAZES ME SOMETIMES WHEN I GO AROUND AUSTIN, I SEE A HOUSE THAT LIKE AT MOST COULD BE A TWO BEDROOM, HAS LIKE SIX CARS ON THE PROPERTY. UM, I, I'M AN, I'M AN OUT ANTI-CAR PERSON IN THE CITY. MM-HMM. I THINK CARS ARE NUISANCE, THEY'RE DANGEROUS, THEY BLOCK VIEWS TO HOMES, YOUR ABILITY TO ACCESS NEIGHBORS. SO, UM, I WONDER IF Y'ALL COULD GET CREATIVE ABOUT WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO, INSTEAD OF APPLYING FOR PARKING PERMITS AND TRYING TO HOG THE PART OF THE STREET OR, YOU KNOW, QUABBLE ABOUT WHO GETS WHAT, UM, INSTEAD, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A REBATE OR REWARD PEOPLE FOR, RATHER THAN USING A PERMIT, LIKE GETTING A METRO PASS, AN ANNUAL METRO PASS OR SOMETHING TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE USING PARKING LESS IN GENERAL. UM, JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CLUTTER OUR STREETS WITH CARS, WHETHER THEY'RE VISITORS OR RESIDENTS. UM, SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, AND I THINK I HAD ANOTHER ONE, BUT I REALLY HAVE TO USE THE BATHROOM, SO I'M GONNA PASS IT TO THE NEXT COMMISSIONER, AND I'LL BE, IF YOU, IF YOU COME BACK AND, AND HAVE THOUGHT OF IT, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU. I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER PRASAD NOW. HI. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR VERY THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, SO FIRST, UH, THE, UH, I HAD SOME, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE PROCESS THAT Y'ALL ARE IMPLEMENTING, THE, THE, THE CHANGES. SO THERE, IN, IN YOUR EARLIER PROCESS, IN THE CURRENT PROCESS FOR, UM, I THINK, UH, UH, RESIDENT APPLYING FOR A PERMIT, UM, UH, YOU'RE PLANNING ON CHANGING IT TO SOMETHING WHERE A DESIGNEE, UM, CAN, UH, APPLY, UH, FOR THE, THE, THE, THE PROCESS, UH, THE RPP ITSELF FOR THE STREET MM-HMM . UM, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT IT WAS APPROVED, UH, AND APPROVED TO DESIGNEE WHO, WHO APPROVES THE DESIGNEE? UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE ACTUAL HOMEOWNER ITSELF. SO SAY IT'S THE RENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM. THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HOMEOWNER. UM, THEY SAY WE'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO APPLY THE HOMEOWNER'S, LIKE, YEAH, GO AHEAD AND APPLY MM-HMM . THEY WOULD SIGN A FORM GIVING THEM THE ABILITY TO OPERATE BASED OFF OF THAT. OKAY. GOT IT. THIS IS AN ALREADY EXISTING TPW LIKE PROCESS THAT Y'ALL HAVE? NO, NO, NO. SO THAT'S NOT CURRENT PROCESS. SO THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, RULES DOESN'T HAVE ANY CLEAR LANGUAGE ABOUT WHO CAN ACTUALLY APPLY. SO RIGHT NOW OKAY. A RESIDENT TECHNICALLY COULD APPLY. WE DO LIKE TO CHECK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS, SO WE'LL TRY OUR BEST TO REACH THE HOMEOWNER ITSELF, UM, BEFORE IT'S ACTUALLY INITIATED, BUT THERE'S NOT CLEAR, UM, GUIDELINES ON THAT CURRENTLY. OKAY. GOT IT. UM, AND, AND YEAH, UM, UH, YOU ALSO MENTIONED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UH, THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT TPWI THINK WILL TAKE ON THE MAINTENANCE. OH, SORRY. WELL, I, THAT'S THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK WAS, WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THE SIGNS? UM, 'CAUSE UH, IN THE CURRENT PROCESS, I GUESS THE, THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SUCCESSFULLY APPLIED FOR AN [01:40:01] RPP, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO INSTALL THE SIGNS. I PRESUME THEM, THEY WOULD MAINTAIN THE SIGNS. NOW, IF TPW IS GONNA TAKE ON THE INSTALLATION OF THE SIGNS, UH, I, I, I UNDERSTAND THE ADVANTAGES OF ALIGNING WITH THE SIGNAGE ACROSS THE, THE WHOLE, UH, CITY. UM, BUT THEN, YEAH, I GUESS TPW IS ALSO TAKING ON THE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE SIGNS. WELL, LET ME BE CLEAR ON THE PROCESS FOR IT. SO, UM, AND, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I WASN'T CLEAR ON IT. SO, WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES FOR THE RPP PROGRAM, ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEY GET THE PETITION, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PUT IN, UM, A COUPLE OF TEMPORARY SIGNS ON THE STREET NOTIFYING THE PUBLIC AND RESIDENCE THAT THE STREET'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR, UH, RPP. MM-HMM. UM, THE CURRENT GUIDELINES REQUIRE THAT THE APPLICANT ITSELF, YOU KNOW, FOOT THAT BILL FOR THOSE MM-HMM . UM, AND WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE RULES THAT SHOWS LIKE HOW THOSE, THOSE SIGNS SHOULD LOOK. AND THEN A PHONE NUMBER GOES ON THAT SIGN. AND, AND, UM, REALLY OVER TIME WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT THE SIGN COMES IN DIFFERENT SI DIFFERENT SIZES. UM, WE GO OUT THERE AND CHECK THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED, UM, YOU KNOW, OR THEY GET PUT UP LATE. UM, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, JUST WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, INCONSISTENCY AS WELL AS THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE APPLYING FOR THE PROGRAM MAY NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO, TO PURCHASE THOSE, UH, SIGNS THAT CAN BE KIND OF COSTLY. THE CORE PLAST, COUPLE OF 'EM, UM, ON EITHER SIDE OF, OF THE STREET. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT ONE POINT SOMEONE SAID IT WAS LIKE CLOSE TO $200 TO GET 'EM, UM, AND THEY HAD TO STAY UP FOR THE TIME OF THE PETITION. SO WE REQUIRE WHAT WE'RE, UH, PROPOSING, AND THE RULE SET IS THAT TPW WILL TAKE THAT ON, UH, WE WILL CREATE THE SIGNS, UM, WE WILL POST THEM ONCE THE PETITION GOES UP, WE WILL DO REGULAR CHECKS TO ENSURE, UM, THAT THOSE SIGNS WILL STAY THERE DURING THAT PETITION PROCESS. OUR PHONE NUMBER, UM, OR UM, QR CODE OR WEBSITE WOULD BE ON THAT FOR PEOPLE TO GO VISIT. YOU KNOW, UM, THAT PETITION, WHICH IS NOW A DIGITAL PETITION, WE MOVED THAT OVER, UH, DURING, UH, RIGHT AFTER COVID. UM, SO THAT'S THE, THE SPECIFIC SIGNS, THE SIGNS THAT GO ON THE STREET ITSELF IS STILL MAINTAINED, UM, BY TPW, THE CITY. GOT IT. OKAY. GREAT. THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT'S VERY CLEAR FOR ME NOW. UM, UH, I, I'D BE CURIOUS, , IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE A PETITIONER HAS APPLIED FOR AN RPP SIGN, UM, OR FOR, YOU KNOW, THE RPP, UM, AND, AND YOU PUT SIGNS SAYING THE RPP IS PENDING, AND IT'S NOT THE PETITIONER'S HOUSE WHO'S, YOU KNOW, WHO YOU PUT THE SIGN IN FRONT OF, WHAT THEY MIGHT THINK ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS AROUND THE CHANGE MANAGEMENT PROCESS THAT YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING, I THINK IMPLICITLY IN, IN YOUR PROPOSED CHANGES WHEN YOU'RE REEVALUATING THE EXISTING RPPS, YOU MENTIONED PERIODIC PARKING STUDIES. UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM MIGHT FIND THAT THE RPP NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE OR IN FACT GO AWAY. UM, IS, IS THE PROCESS FOR MANAGING ANY CHANGES TO EXISTING RPPS SOMETHING THAT, THAT Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY LAID OUT SOMEWHERE THAT I CAN LOOK AT? UM, NOT CURRENTLY. WE'RE STILL EVALUATING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. EVERY, SO REALLY THE RPP PROGRAM AND WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON WITH THE, THE CURRENT DRAFT RULES, UM, REALLY LOOKS AT RPP CONTEXTUALLY GEOGRAPHICALLY. WE KNOW THAT RPP IS DRIVEN BY DIFFERENT FACTORS EVERYWHERE. HMM. UM, SO IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO UNDERSTAND A SPECIFIC PROCESS TO REVIEW THOSE. SO THERE'S DRIVERS, YOU KNOW, FROM 1997 OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO, COULD HAVE CHANGED. AND THEN I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK INTO, WELL, HOW, WHY WAS IT IMPLEMENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE? RIGHT. UM, SO THOSE THINGS WE WILL TAKE OVER TIME. WE'LL LOOK AT WAYS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF TO REEVALUATE LEGACY ONES MM-HMM . UM, BUT MOVING FORWARD, ANY NEW ZONE THAT WE DO, WE'LL PROBABLY PUT INTO PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, REVIEW OVER, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO YEAR MM. AND HAVE A STANDARD PROCESS FOR THAT. OKAY. UM, AND, AND THAT WILL GROW IN TIME. WE'LL UNDERSTAND HOW TO REEVALUATE THOSE. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHANGE TO HYBRID. SO LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IN SOUTH CONGRESS WHEN WE, WE REVAMPED THE AREA, UH, ADDED PAID PARKING, WE CHANGED ALL THE ZONES AT ONE TIME. RIGHT. UM, SO THAT COULD BE A PROCESS THAT WE LOOK AT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING LAID OUT CURRENTLY THE LEAST. YEAH. THERE IS A SECTION WITHIN THE PROPOSED RULES WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE REEVALUATION. UM, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DATA AND INFORMATION WE WOULD GET, AND WE DO SAY WE'D BE NOTIFYING NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE PROCESS AS WE GO THROUGH IT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT COMES UP. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT THERE, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT, WE'D BE OPEN TO IT. YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. I JUST, IN THE BACK OF MY BRAIN, I'M THINKING THAT IT'S HARD TO TAKE PEOPLE'S THINGS AWAY IN GENERAL MM-HMM . UM, AND SO, UH, A CAREFULLY MANAGED PROCESS WOULD BE GOOD. AND THEN IT'D BE GOOD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE I, I, I'M, I'M NOT SO EDUCATED ON THE CURRENT, UH, THE RPP GRANTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET AN RPP ON YOUR STREET, UM, HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY DOES THE CITY HAVE TO UNWIND IT, UM, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE? UH, I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT IS. AND ANYWAY, I NEED TO DIG IN ON THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT. I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER JACOBSON. THANK YOU. UM, THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE, THIS PRESENTATION. I'M JUST CURIOUS, I SEE WE'VE GOT A LOT INS FOR CONSTRUCTION OR VISITOR, BUT WHERE ARE WE ENGAGING, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNERS, WORKERS IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS? I MANAGED A WINE BAR AT OXFORD IN SOUTH LAMAR. UM, I WAS IN, I WORKED IN SOUTH CONGRESS WHEN THIS WAS ALL HAPPENING. UM, AND FOR LIKE, REALLY, HOW CAN WE DO, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE [01:45:01] CURRENT PROCESS LIKE REALLY IS RESPECTING OUR WORKERS AND OUR PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE VIBRANT COMMUNITIES THAT MIGHT BE DRIVING IN, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA WORK A 14 HOUR SHIFT, CAN YOU GET A PERMIT TO PARK LIKE CLOSE BY? HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THAT? BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT PEOPLE'S, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE COMING IN FOR ACL DON'T WANT THEM TO CLOG UP THE STREETS, BUT HOW DO WE RESPECT OUR, OUR WORKERS, OUR MUSICIANS, OUR BARTENDERS THAT ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, PILLARS OF THESE COMMUNITIES THAT MAKE THESE HOME VALUES VERY, UH, HIGH AND UP THERE. LIKE, HOW DO WE ENGAGE THEM BETTER AND ALLOW FOR SOMETHING THAT, LIKE THERE'S QUARTERLY SUBMIT A PAY STUB, LET US KNOW YOU'RE WORKING AT THIS BUSINESS, YOU CAN HAVE A RESIDENT. WHAT, WHERE ARE THOSE KIND OF S YEAH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER. UM, YOU KNOW, SO AGAIN, I WANNA REITERATE THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST ITERATION OF THESE RULES. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO COME AND TO REEVALUATE AND TO UNDERSTAND OVER TIME. UM, TO YOUR POINT, WE, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO, UH, NOT, UM, FOCUS ON OUR SERVICE ENERGY WORKERS THAT DEFINITELY NEED, YOU KNOW, SPACE TO PARK AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, DEFINITELY SOUTH CONGRESS WITH THE WORK I DID THERE AND, AND SPEAKING TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, EVEN EMPLOYEES IN THAT AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS APPARENT THAT WE NEEDED TO FIND A SOLUTION. SO, UM, IN SOUTH CONGRESS, WE'RE CURRENTLY PILOTING A PROGRAM FOR THAT, UM, SIMILAR TO OUR AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM. UM, BUT IT'S AN ON STREET VERSION OF IT WHERE WE ALLOT A NUMBER OF PERMITS, UM, TO MERCHANTS BASED OFF OF OCCUPANCY OF, AND, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO USE THAT DIFFERENT OTHER FACTORS AS WELL. LIKE, DO THEY HAVE A PARKING GARAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ALLOW, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES TO USE OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND THEN THOUGH WE HAVE CERTAIN ZONES, UM, WHICH WE CALL THE FOUR OH ONE ZONES IN SOUTH CONGRESS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES CAN USE THAT PERMIT TO PARK. UM, AND THESE ARE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, OTHER COMPETING NEEDS. SO THIS WOULD BE NOT IN FRONT OF A RESIDENTIAL HOME, IT'D BE LIKE ON THE SIDE STREET OR OTHER FREE STREETS. UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT WAYS TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND EXPAND THAT. AND ONCE WE GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT IS DONE AFTER THIS PILOT, IT COULD BE THAT WE REEVALUATE HOW THAT IS INCORPORATED IN FUTURE, UM, RULES AND, AND GUIDELINES WITHIN, UM, THIS PROCESS. JUST, I MEAN, THE KEY DISTINGUISHING FACTOR THERE IS PRIOR RPP WAS JUST RESIDENT PARKING OR NOT MM-HMM . AND THE HYBRID MODEL ALLOWS US TO HAVE THOSE ZONES. IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE METER PARKING DURING THE DAY OR DURING, WHEN THOSE SHIFTS MIGHT BE HAPPENING. THAT'S, THAT'S NEEDED FOR THAT DEMAND TO ABSORB THAT DEMAND WHEN MAYBE THE HOMEOWNERS AREN'T THERE FOR THE MOST PART. AND THEN WE CAN SWITCH THAT OVER TO RESIDENTIAL OVERNIGHT PARKING. SO IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY TO TRY TO GET TO SOME OF THOSE KIND OF CREATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE. MM-HMM . GREAT QUESTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. I, WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS. I MEAN, ANYONE IS ALWAYS WELCOME TO MAKE A MOTION WHEN WE HAVE AN ITEM POSTED FOR ACTION. UM, BUT I'M ANTICIPATING THEN, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT WE LEARNED FROM Y'ALL TODAY, THAT WE, UM, MAY WANNA COME BACK TO THIS IN THE JUNE MEETING WITH A RECOMMENDATION. AND I THINK WITH ALL THE, UH, VIBRANT DISCUSSION WE HAD TODAY, WE MAY BE ABLE TO KNOCK THAT OUT PRETTY QUICKLY AT THE JUNE MEETING. UM, I, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER AND I TALKED BEFORE THE MEETING AND YOU WERE INTERESTED ON WORKING SOMETHING. I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IF I CAN BE A RESOURCE OR HELP LOOK AT IT, I CAN, UM, I CAN DEFINITELY HELP WITH THAT IF YOU NEED BE. IS ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS FROM UTC? GREAT. UM, COMMISSIONER PRASAD, WE WILL INCLUDE YOU ON THOSE EMAILS WHEN WE GET THAT GOING. SO, UM, AND COMMISSIONER JACOBSON. OKAY. THAT'S NOT A QUORUM. SO WE ARE, WE ARE GOOD THERE. THAT'S A GOOD LITTLE GROUP OF FOLKS TO WORK ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE'LL ANTICIPATE THAT FOR JUNE IF Y'ALL WANNA COME BACK OR NOT. BUT, UM, , WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT ON THERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES BRING US [6. Discussion and approval of a possible recommendation on the Directors Rules and oneyear update on the Shared Micromobility program.] TO ITEM SIX, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION APPROVAL OF A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION ON THE DIRECTOR'S RULES AND ONE YEAR UPDATE ON THE SHARED MICRO MOBILITY PROGRAM. AND I THINK SOME OF OUR STAFF ARE SAYING, ARE Y'ALL SWITCHING OUT? ARE Y'ALL BOTH STAYING? WE'RE GONNA BE HANGING OUT WITH YOU A LITTLE LONGER. Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE SAYING, IF YOU COULD INDULGE ME, I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, Y'ALL MAY REMEMBER IT WAS ABOUT, IT WAS OVER THE SUMMER, LAST SUMMER. I THINK THAT WE, WE HAD, UM, AN UPDATE ON THE DIRECTOR'S RULES AND SHARED MICRO MOBILITY. IF YOU DON'T TRACK WHAT THAT MEANS, IT, IT, I MEAN, IT CAN MEET A LOT OF THINGS, BUT WHAT WE OFTEN THINK OF IT AS, AS SCOOTERS, LIME SCOOTERS, ELECTRIC BIKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA TELL US MORE ABOUT. SO IT WAS A BIG RULE CHANGE LAST YEAR, AND THEN LEADING INTO STUDY OF MORE CHANGES THIS YEAR. SO Y'ALL ARE GONNA SHARE WITH US ON THAT, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. YES. AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, MICHAEL IS OUT SICK TODAY. SO, UH, JOSEPH WILL BE LEADING THIS PRESENTATION. I JUST WANNA GIVE A LITTLE INTRO, AS YOU MENTIONED, CHAIR, THE, THE RULE CHANGES HAPPENED, UH, LAST APRIL, KIND OF IN RESPONSE TO A LOT OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND INPUT ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND HOW MANY DEVICES WERE OUT THERE ON THE STREETS, UH, WHAT WE WERE SEEING WITH PARKING BEHAVIORS OF THOSE DEVICES AND, AND THE IMPACT IT WAS HAVING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S MOBILITY AS THEY WERE TRYING TO USE THOSE DEVICES AS WELL. SO, UH, SOME CHANGES HAPPENED PRETTY QUICKLY. GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK, UH, BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER THOSE CHANGES. SO [01:50:01] WE WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE Y'ALL AS WE HAVE BEEN WITH CITY COUNCIL AS WELL, IS JUST, WHAT'S THE DATA SHOWING US FROM THOSE CHANGES AS WE'VE REDUCED PROVIDERS, AS WE'VE SEEN THE TRIPS PER DEVICE GO UP, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT, UH, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, OUR ABILITY TO MOVE AROUND? PEOPLE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THESE DEVICES, BUT, UH, WE'RE NOT SEEING AS MUCH, UH, CONGREGATION OF THOSE DEVICES IN PARTICULAR AREAS. SO, UH, WE'VE SEEN SOME CHANGES. THEY SEEM POSITIVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND NOW WE'RE COMING BACK TO UPDATE THESE RULES AS WELL. SO IT'LL BE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING OVER THAT LAST KIND OF YEAR PERIOD. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BE POSTING THESE DIRECTORS RULES AS WELL, UM, HOPEFULLY ON MONDAY THE 12TH. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE TIME FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK ON THOSE AS WELL. SO I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO JESS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU LEWIS AND HELLO COMMISSIONERS AGAIN. UM, YEAH, I WOULD DO MY BEST TO, TO MUDDLE THROUGH THIS. UM, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, REALLY JUST, AGAIN, A LOT OF THIS WAS, UH, SEEN AT BILLY COMMITTEE ON APRIL 17TH, SO SOME MIGHT BE FAMILIAR. UM, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE, THE MAIN PORTIONS OF IT AND THEN GET TO THE RULES AND, AND JUST REALLY FOCUS ON Y'ALL'S, UH, QUESTION AND ANSWER, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE RULES. UM, SO WE'LL, YOU KNOW, REALLY QUICKLY JUST KIND OF GO OVER A QUICK PROGRAM UPDATE BASED OFF OF THOSE CHANGES THAT, UM, UH, LUIS HAD JUST SPOKE ABOUT. UM, SO WHAT DID THE DATA KIND OF SAY? UM, AND THEN GO BACK INTO, UH, OUR COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH BOTH THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, ONLINE SURVEYS AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER UPDATES WE'VE DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND IN PER IN PERSON STAKEHOLDER, UM, MEETINGS. AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE RULES. UM, ALL RIGHT, LET'S LOOK A BIT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRIP DATA. SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF THOSE CHANGES TO MICROBIAL PROGRAM IN 2024 REALLY FOCUS AROUND LIMITING DEVICE, UM, DEVICES CITYWIDE, UM, REDUCING DEVICES DOWNTOWN CORE. UM, AND REALLY, UM, WE SEE ALL SOME CHANGES TO OUR, OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUEST, UM, UH, REQUEST REPORTING, AND I'M, I'LL GO OVER THAT A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DETAIL. UM, YOU KNOW, THE DATA THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE IS FROM 2024 APRIL TO, TO 2025. WE SEE SOME DIFFERENCES IN, IN, IN TOTAL TRIPS. BASED OFF THOSE CHANGES, WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE MUCH, UM, OVERALL CHANGE, I WILL SAY THAT IN, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, PRIOR TO THESE CHANGES, WE HAD THREE PROVIDERS THAT ONE OF THE PROVIDERS LEFT DURING THAT TIMEFRAME. UM, WE GOT, UH, LEFT, UM, WITH BIRD AND LYME. UM, AND REALLY THAT HAS, WHEN WE MADE THOSE CHANGES, THAT WAS THE REDUCTION OVERALL. UM, WE DID REDUCE THE TOTAL OVERALL DEVICES DOWNTOWN, UM, IN OUR, IN WHAT WE CALL THE, THE DAP C, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PROJECT COORDINATION ZONE, UH, WHICH INCLUDES OUR DOWNTOWN CORE. UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE OVERALL TOTAL TRIPS, UM, REALLY DIDN'T FLUCTUATE AS MUCH. AND SO THE DEMAND OVERALL, UM, YOU KNOW, IS BEING MET. UM, ALTHOUGH WE COULD PROBABLY SEE INCREASES IN, IN SOME AREAS, UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. UM, UM, REALLY, WE, WE REALLY FOCUS AROUND, YOU KNOW, UM, TRIPS, UM, UH, PER VEHICLE, PER DEVICE. UM, REALLY WANTED TO SEE AN INCREASE IN THOSE OVER TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE CHANGES. THAT'S THE REALLY CORE NUMBER AND WHAT OTHER CITIES, UM, AND THE INDUSTRY USES TO UNDERSTAND USAGE. UM, AND SO WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT, UM, FROM 1.2 TO 1.3. UM, NOW THIS IS THE OVERALL AVERAGE. YOU KNOW, UM, SOME PROVIDERS MIGHT SEE A HIGHER INCREASE, UM, IN OVERALL TRIPS PER DEVICE, UM, ON AVERAGE THAN THE OVERALL SYSTEM ITSELF. UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DOWN OVERALL, THE DOWNTOWN REALLY SAW THAT INCREASE WHEN WE REDUCED DOWN. EACH PROVIDER HAS, UH, 1,250, UH, DEVICES, UM, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DEPLOY IN, IN OUR DOWNTOWN CORE. UM, AND SO, UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT OVERALL INCREASE, AND NOW THAT THEY USED TO HAVE A LOT MORE IN DOWNTOWN, I THINK IT WAS OVER 3000. UM, AND SO WITH THAT REDUCTION DOWN THAT WE REALLY SAW AN INCREASE IN THAT TRIP, UM, PER DEVICE. UM, REALLY FOCUSING ON NOW THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUEST, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. UM, WE CAN'T CONTRIBUTE ALL OF THIS BIG DROP DOWN TO JUST, UM, THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE. UM, WE DID MAKE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES INTERNALLY THAT IT REALLY FOCUSED AROUND WHY WE SEE THIS BIG DROP. UM, OUR PARKING, UM, UM, I'LL SAY PARKING ENFORCEMENT, THAT'S REALLY NOT THE WORD. I SHOULD KNOW THIS BETTER, BUT IT'S MOBILITY SERVICE OFFICERS, WE'VE, WE'VE CHANGED IT FROM PARKING ENFORCEMENT TO MOBILITY SERVICE OFFICERS. THEY, THEY HELP OUT WITH THE ENFORCEMENT. THEY, UM, AND AT THAT TIME, WE WERE, UM, IMPLEMENTED A PROCESS FOR THEM TO SUBMIT 3 0 1, UM, REQUEST IN ORDER TO NOTIFY THE COMPANIES. AND SO WHEN A 3 0 1 REQUEST GOES IN IT, IT PINGS BOTH OUR STAFF AS WELL AS THE PROVIDERS, AND THEY NEED TO RESPOND WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME BASED OFF OF WHAT THE COMPLAINT IS. TYPICALLY, IT'S A SIDEWALK INFRACTION, UM, BLOCKING SIDEWALK. WE REQUIRE THE TWO HOUR, UM, UH, RESPONSE TIME. AND SO, UH, WE MOVED AWAY FROM THAT SYSTEM TO AN INTERNAL, UH, UH, SYSTEM, UM, FOR OUR OFFICERS [01:55:01] TO, UM, REPORT THOSE, UM, WHERE THE, UH, THE PROVIDERS STILL GET THAT, UH, NOTIFICATION TO ENSURE THAT THEY RESPOND. UM, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE A, UH, IT DOESN'T ADD TO WHAT THE ACTUAL, UM, PUBLIC USES FOR THE THREE ONE SYSTEM AND INFLATE THOSE NUMBERS TO SEE THAT, UH, WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SEES, RIGHT? SO YOU SEE THESE LARGE NUMBERS, UM, FROM APRIL 23 TO MARCH 24, UM, AND YOU SEE A DROP, AND THAT IS JUST DUE TO US TURN MOVING INTO THAT INTERNAL SYSTEM. UH, WE'LL GO INTO THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UM, SO, UH, WE'VE DONE, UM, SOME VARIOUS COMMUTER, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, THROUGH DIFFERENT, UM, FEEDBACK. UM, SO SHARED SERVICE AND TP W'S PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE HOST AN OPEN HOUSE ON MARCH 24TH AT THE CARVER BRANCH PUBLIC LIBRARY. UM, REALLY THE GOAL OF THAT WAS JUST TO REALLY GET INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC ON WHERE THEY FELT ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND, AND PARKING LOCATIONS, UM, AND, AND REALLY GET A, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING OF HOW, UH, THEY USE THE SYSTEM AND WHAT IMPROVEMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. UM, WE, WE BOTH, UH, HAD BURDEN LINE THERE, UM, THAT REALLY CONTRIBUTED TO THAT PROCESS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO, UH, DONE SOME OTHER COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR VISION ZERO COMMUNITY BOARD, UM, MAYOR COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. WE'VE DONE SOME OTHER OUTREACH AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS MARKET DAYS. AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR ONLINE SURVEY, WHICH I'LL GO OVER HERE IN A SECOND. UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY FOCUSING ON JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE DO BETTER COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. UM, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE, I HAD THE PROGRAM AT ONE POINT AND I WAS REALLY WORKING ON THIS, AND WE, AND WE WENT THROUGH COVID, AND AT THAT POINT, WE REALLY NEEDED TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO GET COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. AND WE, WE, WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT. AND THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THIS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGH OTHER, UM, PROCESSES TO, TO, TO REALLY FOCUS ON GETTING MORE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THROUGH, UM, THE PROGRAM TO MAKE ENHANCEMENTS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AS WE KIND OF GO ON IN SOME OF THE PROCESS WITHIN THE RULES. UM, SO I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, UM, AND WE'LL GET TO SOME OF THE RESULTS. SO THE SURVEY ITSELF, I THINK WAS, WAS PRETTY INTERESTING. NOT AS MANY RESPONSES AS WE DID AS RPPI WOULD MENTION. UM, AND I THINK IT WAS OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO , UM, PARKING ITSELF. BUT, UM, OVERALL IT WAS REALLY GOOD. WE, WE HAD A, A, YOU KNOW, REALLY PUSHED US OUT IN DIFFERENT CHANNELS, UM, THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH OUR NEWSLETTER. UM, WE ALSO HAD, UH, MULTIPLE CAMPAIGNS. UM, WE, WE ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THE PROVIDER FOR PUSHING THIS OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, THEIR, THEIR USERS. UM, IT REALLY ESCALATED THE NUMBER OF, UM, RESPONSES HERE, UM, OVERALL OVER, YOU KNOW, UH, 8,000 RESPONSES AND 13, OVER 1300 COMMENTS. UM, REALLY THE KEY TAKEAWAYS HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT USE DEVICES ARE DOING IT FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES. UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UM, UM, FOCUS ON JUST THOSE SHORT TRIPS. UM, 49% OF OF PEOPLE CONSIDER DEVICES TO BE SOMEWHAT OR VERY SAFE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A, A VERY GOOD NUMBER, THAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UM, GREAT TO SEE. AND THEN 61% ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BLOCK SIDEWALKS. I THINK THAT'S MAJORITY OF WHAT WE SAW. UM, REALLY, AND I'LL, I'LL KIND OF GET TO MORE SENTIMENTS HERE, UM, ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE, WITH THE PROGRAM OVERALL. UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE RESULTS ITSELF, WE REALLY, IT REALLY FOCUSES AROUND IMPROVED INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ENHANCED PARKING SOLUTIONS, REALLY MORE SAFETY EDUCATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WANTING MORE DEVICE AVAILABILITY, WHETHER THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, E-BIKES, AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT E-BIKES HERE IN A SECOND. UM, AND, AND REALLY, REALLY FOCUS ON THE MAINTENANCE DESIGN OF THE ACTUAL DEVICES ITSELF. UM, BUT REALLY I THINK OVERALL WHAT WE'VE ALSO SEEN IS THE LACK OF DEDICATED PARKING. UM, AND I THINK WHAT WE SAW FROM THE RESULTS IS THAT MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, KNEW ABOUT THERE WAS A PARKING BOX OUT THERE, BUT NEVER REALLY ACTUALLY INTERACTED WITH ONE. UM, AND SO I THINK THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF REALLY PROMOTING WHERE THOSE ARE. AND WE'LL, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE IN A SECOND, IN ANOTHER SLIDE. BUT THAT IS ANOTHER SENTIMENT THAT WE DEFINITELY HEARD. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, REALLY POOR ROAD CONDITIONS AND POOR LIGHTING. THERE'S SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES THAT WE'VE HEARD. UM, I THINK THAT REALLY SAFETY IS ANOTHER BIG ISSUE THAT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE, UM, COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED. UM, AND THIS IS JUST DEPENDING ON AREA AND, AND VARIOUS ISSUES THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE, UH, UM, BROUGHT UP. SO ONE OF THE, THE, UM, ELEMENTS OF THE SURVEY ITSELF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, A COUPLE OF THEM THAT YOU COULD INTERACT WITH, AND ONE OF THOSE WAS [02:00:01] A MAP WHERE YOU CAN PUT A PLACE A PIN WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE, UM, WHERE WE NEED PARKING. UM, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY COOL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET OTHER FEEDBACK. AND TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO FEEDBACK, PEOPLE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, REALLY IT'S KINDA LIKE RVP, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM ACTUALLY USERS OF THE SYSTEM THAT WANNA BENEFIT FROM IT AND WANNA SAY, HEY, WE WANNA SEE THIS OVER HERE. UM, AND SO 40% OF THE RESPONDENTS, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, UM, WE'RE AWARE OF PARKING BOXES, BUT NEVER REALLY, REALLY USED THEM. UM, AND 54% DID, UH, DID NOT FEEL IT WAS CLEAR WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PARK PROPERLY AND SAFELY. UM, IT'S A DOCKLESS SYSTEM, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NATURE OF DOCKLESS IS, AND WE'RE STILL LEARNING. IT'S A NEW INDUSTRY, UM, AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING WAYS TO KEEP THAT NATURE RIGHT. UM, OVERALL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY OUR BEST TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UM, CORRALS OR PARKING BOXES IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS, AND, AND ESPECIALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, HIGH DEMAND OR HIGH PEDESTRIAN AREAS, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO RESTRICT IT JUST TO JUST THOSE AR UM, PARKING BOX AREAS, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD FEEL THAT IT'S NOT A DOCKLESS SYSTEM ANYMORE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DROP OFF. SO THERE'S A BENEFIT TO HAVING DOCKLESS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE RESPONDING TO, TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY ENCOURAGING. BUT I THINK OVERALL, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS 61% THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH BLOCK SIDEWALKS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, OVERALL WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT, YOU KNOW, UH, EFFORTS AND, AND, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, SUBMITTING CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUESTS, WE'VE SEEN OVERALL, UH, BETTER RESPONSE TO THOSE FROM THE PROVIDERS THEMSELVES. UH, BUT WE KNOW WE COULD DO BETTER. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RULES. SO THE RULES, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF WORKED ON FOR A LITTLE BIT. UM, WE'VE, WE TAKEN SOME OF THOSE, THAT FEEDBACK, UM, AND, AND REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE, HOW CAN WE INCORPORATE IT INTO THE RULES. UM, A LOT OF THE RULE, UM, RULE AREAS ARE FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, SAFETY GUIDELINES, UM, UM, THE, THE DEVICE ITSELF, THE, THE BUILD OF DEVICE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, REQUIREMENTS. UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST PART OF IT IS STANDARDIZATION, REPORTING AND ACCOUNTABILITY, REALLY FINDING A WAY TO SCORE, UM, HOW THE PROVIDERS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, USING OUR SYSTEM, UM, WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING ACCESS TO DEVICES. UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT AN INCREASED EMPHASIS ON EQUITY, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE EFFICIENCY, AND REALLY CONSISTENT TERMINOLOGY. WHEN THESE RULES WERE FIRST CREATED BACK IN 2018, UM, INDUSTRY JUST STARTED, WE WERE LOOKING AT DOCK LIST. WE REALLY NEEDED TO FIND A WAY TO STREAMLINE NEW INDUSTRY TERMS THAT WERE, UM, BEING, UM, IMPLEMENTED OVER THE YEARS WITH DIFFERENT CITIES, UM, AS WELL AS WITHIN INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE. SO, UM, I, I FIRST WANNA MAKE A QUICK NOTE, UM, OF, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, RULES HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME. WE'VE MADE SOME, IT'S A DRAFT. UM, UM, SO SECTION FOUR AND SECTION FIVE ON HERE ACTUALLY MERGED. SO, UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDES AFTER THIS, THE, THE ACTUAL SECTIONS DON'T LINE UP WITH WHAT'S IN THE DRAFT RULES THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE RECEIVED. UM, JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK NOTE OF THAT. UM, SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, THE DI WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE, THE UNITS THEMSELVES. UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS, SAFETY STANDARDS, LIKE, UH, MINIMUM WHEEL SIZE. UM, UH, FOR INSTANCE, IT IS A REQUIREMENT, 10 INCHES. UM, WE HAVE AN EQUITY SECTION THAT BREAKS UP CURRENTLY WHAT'S IN THE RULES RIGHT NOW AND MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE REFINED, UM, AND REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH, INCLUDING, UH, THE POTENTIAL OF, OF REQUIRING PROVIDERS TO, UM, UM, PARTICIPATE IN SAFETY EVENTS ANNUALLY. UM, AND THEN REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DEFINES A PERMITTING AMOUNT? AND BEFORE IT WASN'T REALLY CLEAR. AND, AND THE, THE CURRENT RULES, UM, WE'VE, UM, REALLY LOOKED AT THE RULES AND TRY TO GIVE THE DIRECTOR MORE AUTHORITY TO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT DRIVERS, UM, TO ALLOW FOR DEVICE INCREASES, UM, INCLUDING SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, WHEN DEMAND GETS HIGH. UM, REALLY, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE HERE. UM, ANOTHER BIG, UM, POINT THAT WE NEEDED TO REALLY FOCUS ON WAS, UM, A CRASH AND COLLISION REPORTING IN A FORMAT DETERMINED BY THE DIRECTOR. UM, REALLY WORKING THROUGH, UM, OUR VISION ZERO TEAM, UM, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STANDARDS THAT REALLY NEED TO BE SET TO REQUIRE FROM OUR PROVIDERS IN A CONSISTENT FORMAT. SO THAT MATCHES UP WITH WHAT OUR CURRENT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, GOALS ARE HERE FOR THE CITY AND WHAT VISION ZERO IS DOING TO MATCH UP SOME OF THOSE, UH, OTHER CRASH REPORTS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET CONSISTENT REPORTING OVER TIME. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS STILL ONGOING. BUT, UM, WE DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE'RE TAKING THE, THE RIGHT STEP [02:05:01] IN THE DIRECTION TO, TO REALLY CREATE, UH, CONSISTENCY AT, UH, UH, THE FIRST LEVEL, UM, WHERE IT CAN CONTINUE TO GROW UPON. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF BLUE IS ONE IS OKAY. UM, AND THEN I THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT PART IS WE REQUIRED AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO WHEN, UM, WHEN I WAS OVERSEEING THE PROGRAM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD INCUR IS, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY HAPPENS, WHAT DO WE DO? UH, COVID WAS ONE OF THOSE. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, HAD TO, YOU KNOW, COME REALLY QUICKLY AND PUT STUFF IN PLACE, BUT PEOPLE WERE STILL WANTED TO USE DEVICES. UM, SO WE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US THE TIME TO IMPLEMENT A, A CLEANING PRIORITY, UM, AND SHOW HOW THEY WERE DOING THAT. UM, AND, AND SANITIZING DEVICES. SO SIMILARLY, OTHER THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, INCLEMENT WEATHER OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, MAJOR EVENTS THAT WE NEED TO LIMIT DEVICES BASED OFF THOSE NEEDS, WE CAN WORK AND HAVE A, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN PUT INTO PLACE, UM, UNIT, UH, DEPLOYMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, STREET ONLY DEVICES AND ANTICIPATES OF POSSIBLE FUTURE DEVICE TYPES. UM, AND IN REALLY THIS SECTION REALLY FOCUSED ON THE UPDATED AREAS FOR DEPLOYMENT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, WE HAVE HEARD IS THAT OUR CURRENT DOWNTOWN, UH, BOUNDARY, WHICH WE CALL THE DC THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PROJECT COORDINATION ZONE, IS JUST TOO BIG. UM, DEMAND IS DIFFERENT NORTH OF THE RIVER THAN THE SOUTH OF THE RIVER. UM, AND RIGHT NOW THAT INCORPORATES BOTH SOUTH CONGRESS AND URBAN CORE. AND SO THAT 1,250 DEVICE LIMIT IS FOR THAT WHOLE AREA. AND SO REALLY WANNA BE ABLE TO BREAK THAT, UM, APART AND BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT SO THERE'S MORE ACCESS AND MORE AVAILABILITY WITHOUT LIMITING DEVICES FOR ONE SPECIFIC AREA. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT ZONE WILL, WILL CHANGE, UM, UH, WITH THE NEW DIRECTOR'S RULES. UM, AND THEN I SPOKE TO THIS, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, CLEAR COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC, UH, WE DEFINITELY COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THIS ONLINE SURVEY TO GET FEEDBACK. HOW OFTEN DO WE DO THIS? WE WANNA DO SOME MORE INTERCEPT SURVEYS OVER TIME TO COLLECT FEEDBACK IN DIFFERENT AREAS FOR USERS. UM, AND THIS NEEDS TO BE MORE CONSISTENT AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEDICATED TO, UM, AND REALLY FIGURING OUT A WAY TO HAVE A CONSISTENT CYCLE OF COMING, DOING UPDATES TO YOU AT UTC, UM, AND, AND, AND PROVIDING ANNUAL REPORTS ON TRYING TO, UH, UPDATE OUR SYSTEM AND OUR PROGRAM TO ENHANCE, UM, FOR THE NEEDS FOR THE PUBLIC. UM, AND THEN REALLY FOCUSED ON, UM, CONSOLIDATING REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND ADDING CLARITY AND AUTHORIZED, UH, THIRD PARTIES. AND THE THIRD PARTIES IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO, FOR US TO USE THIRD PARTIES LIKE, UH, IN ENRICH OR WRITE REPORT, UM, THAT WE CURRENTLY USE AT BACK OFFICE, UM, TO MANAGE ALL OF OUR DATA, UM, TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, UM, AND TO USE IT TO CREATE POLICIES. UM, WE'LL GO INTO, UM, REALLY INSURANCE PERFORMANCE BONDS. THIS IS REALLY MODIFIED REQUIREMENTS FOR MORE CLARITY, THOSE SIMPLE CHANGES IN THERE. UM, AND THEN, UH, REALLY ANOTHER BIG PIECE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE FORMALIZED AN EVALUATION PROCESS. SO, UH, A, A SCORE SHEET, IF YOU WILL. UM, AND IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT MULTIPLE FACTORS WITHIN THIS, YOU KNOW, DID THE, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDER, THE COMPANY, UH, ANSWER ALL CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUESTS IN A, IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. UM, WHAT DO THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY? DID THEY PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO DEVICES? YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING COMMUNITY EVENTS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING TO, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANTED TO FIND A WAY, UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO, AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, HOLD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RIDERS ACCOUNTABLE, BUT TO CREATE A SYSTEM WHERE, YOU KNOW, IS A BASELINE FOR WHAT WE EXPECT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE PROVIDERS TO PERFORM ON OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, EXPECTS. AND SO THIS GRADING SHEET, IT'LL BE SOMETHING WE'VE LOOKED AT IN DIFFERENT CITIES THAT THEY USE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, REALLY GRADE THOSE PROVIDERS, UM, AND PROVIDE THAT QUALITY SERVICE. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE HEARD FROM THE PAST FROM PROVIDERS THAT THEY REALLY CHAMPION. THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A BASELINE FOR THEM TO, TO REACH. UM, AND THEN VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES, UM, REALLY FOCUS ON IMPROVED TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, TO REALLY FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ENFORCE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN A MATTER OF TIME TO ENSURE THAT, UM, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, CLEARING THOSE SIDEWALK OBSTRUCTIONS OR IN THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD ISSUES, UM, AND, AND, AND DO IT IN A MANNER OF TIME THAT'S, UM, NEEDED. UM, AND I WILL PASS OFF TO LEWIS, OR IF YOU WANT TO, FOR THIS SECTION, , SAME THING AS THE LAST ONE. WE'RE, UH, TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME JUST BASED ON THE, THE SURVEY RESULTS, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL TIME FOR LEGAL REVIEW AND A FEW ELEMENTS WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET, UH, EYES ON. AND THEN JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO ANY DISCUSSION AND FEEDBACK TODAY. AND THAT'LL GIVE US A FEW MORE DAYS TO WORK ON THIS AND HOPEFULLY POST THIS ON MAY 12TH. UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE PUSH BACK A WEEK ON THIS TIMEFRAME. SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSION. ALL. THANKS. [02:10:01] UM, I'M GONNA KICK US OFF WITH A FEW QUESTIONS. SO I DID HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SENT PRIOR. UM, I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME COMMENTING ON IT, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT I'LL SEE THE REAL DRAFT ON MAY 12TH AND, AND I CAN WAIT FOR THAT. I DO FEEL, AND I THINK IT'S, I, MY SENSE IS THAT THE RULES THAT WENT INTO PLACE LAST SPRING, AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE I LIKE MICRO MOBILITY AND DOCKLESS TRANSPORTATION. I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UM, LAST MILE SOLUTION. I DO THINK THAT IT ENABLES PEOPLE TO LIVE CAR FREE LIFESTYLES MORE EASILY, WHICH HELPS US MEET THE GOALS OF AUSTIN'S STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN. SO I DO THINK FOR ME, THEY ARE AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM. OF COURSE, IT'S GREAT FOR US TO MANAGE IT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO KIND OF, FOR ME, I THINK DRAW, WALK A KIND OF CAREFUL LINE OF SORT OF LIKE ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE. AND I DON'T, I, I'M STILL SORTING OUT FOR MYSELF HOW I FEEL A LOT OF ABOUT IT. ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID LAST YEAR WHEN WE, UH, SOME STAFF CAME OUT AND SPOKE TO US WAS ABOUT THE SAFETY. AND WE WERE GIVEN A LOT OF ANECDOTES ABOUT, AND, AND I SEE ALSO, AGAIN IN THE SURVEY DATA, A SENSE OF UNSAFETY ON THESE SCOOTERS. AND CERTAINLY WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE PEOPLE, WE'VE MADE A LOT OF SOCIETAL STRIDES TO PEOPLE WEARING HELMETS WHILE THEY RIDE THEIR BIKES. LIKE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY NORMALIZE WEARING HELMETS OR PROVIDING HELMETS FOR SCOOTERS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY. AND CERTAINLY, UM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE ON RAINY STREET AND YOU'VE JUST HAD A GREAT NIGHT OUT AND YOU'RE GETTING ON A SCOOTER FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY IS DEFINITELY THERE FOR ACCIDENT. THAT COULD TURN TRAGIC, YOU KNOW, A ABSOLUTELY, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE, I THINK MY CONCERN IS WE GET FIXATED ON THE SAFETY OF THIS MICRO MOBILITY SOLUTIONS, AND WE'RE NOT REALLY, UM, I KNOW THAT I'M MAYBE NOT THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, BUT WE AS A CITY ARE NOT FOCUSING ON WHAT IS REALLY THE TRAFFIC SAFETY PROBLEM AND PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, WHICH IS CARS AND CAR VIOLENCE AND CAR CRASHES. AND I ALSO HAVE WONDERED AT TIMES WITH, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANSWERS ABOUT THIS, WHICH IS SOMETHING, ONE THING THAT I'M VERY DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF IS GETTING MORE DATA ON THE SAFETY AND REALLY BEING ABLE TO QUANTIFY THIS RATHER THAN TALK ABOUT OUR SUPPOSITIONS, OUR RUMORS. WE, WE ALL KNOW, IN FACT, MY DAUGHTER'S DAD HAD TO HAVE, HE FELL OFF A SCOOTER AND HAD TO HAVE SURGERY ON HIS ELBOW. SO IN MY OWN FAMILY, WE, WE SAW THAT. SO I DEFINITELY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S SAFETY ISSUES. UM, BUT TO ME, LIKE THE ROOT PROBLEM IS CARS. AND SOME OF 'EM, LIKE SOME OF THE WORST ACCIDENTS THAT WE SEE, BIKERS, PEDESTRIANS, SCOOTERS, SORT OF MORE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION USERS GET INTO IS CONFLICTS WITH CARS. SO LIKE, IS IT REALLY THE SCOOTERS OR IS IT THE CARS IN THOSE SITUATIONS? SO I IT'S REALLY JUST A COMMENT. YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND. BUT, UM, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH IS THAT I REALLY DO THINK THAT THIS IS A REAL BIG PART OF OUR LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS TO MOBILITY IN THE CITY. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. UM, I'M ENCOURAGED, I'M DEFINITELY ENCOURAGED TO SEE THAT WE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY CONCERNED ME LAST YEAR. AND WE BASICALLY HAD PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME NUMBER OF TRIPS. WE JUST, THERE'S MORE TRIPS. WE'RE USING THE DEVICES THAT WE HAVE MORE EFFICIENTLY. THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING DATA THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I ANTICIPATED SEEING THIS YEAR. SO I THINK, UM, IT PROBABLY SPEAKS TO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH THESE PROGRAMS TOO, TRYING TO GET THESE OUT TO, I'VE SEEN, I KNOW THINK WE MAY HAVE SOME AUDIENCE MEMBERS, BUT TRYING TO GET THEM IN THE RIGHT PLACES TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND TO SERVE THE DEMAND THAT WE HAVE. SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THOSE ARE JUST SOME COMMENTS. UM, I THINK WE, I'M NOT AS SURE ABOUT, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE. MAYBE SOME FOLKS WANNA WORK ON A WRECK FOR THIS ONE. THIS ONE ISN'T TO ME A NAUGHTY PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S SO, IT'S JUST HAPPENING UNDER OUR FEET, RIGHT? LIKE, WELL, LITERALLY UNDER OUR, OUR FEET AS WE RIDE SCOOTERS TOO. BUT LIKE, IT'S, IT, I THINK WE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND US AND HOW POLICY INTERVENTIONS MAY HAVE EFFECTS THAT WE DON'T KNOW. I WOULDN'T HAVE PREDICTED THIS EFFECT AT ALL, ACTUALLY. SO, UM, IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE, AND MAYBE WE CAN, MAYBE WE DO KNOW WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY AN EMERGENT SPACE, WHICH I REALLY, THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT REALLY WANTS TO FOSTER THE INNOVATION THERE AND NOT GET TOO RESTRICTIVE. BUT I DO DEFINITELY ACCEPT THE CITIES NEED TO MANAGE THINGS A LITTLE BIT. UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION THERE. I JUST MADE A COMMENT. SO, UH, I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER KAMAN. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANNA REITERATE AGAIN THAT WE DO NEED BETTER SAFETY DATA BECAUSE THE RUMORS, I WAS STARTING TO GET A KIND OF IRRITATED ON THE PERCEIVED, LIKE THE PERCEPTION OF NOT THEM BEING SAFE WITHOUT ANY REAL INFORMATION, BACK IT UP. SO THAT I THINK IS A REALLY CRITICAL ELEMENT FOR HOW WE'RE DECIDING TO, UH, USE REGULATIONS TO SORT OF SOLVE PROBLEMS HERE. UM, THE NEXT THING IS, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THIS EMERGENT SPACE, THIS IS A NEW PROBLEM FOR AUSTIN AND, UH, FOR A LOT OF OTHER CITIES. SO HAVE YOU GUYS [02:15:01] MET WITH OFFICIALS FROM, UH, VARIOUS OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE HAD TONS OF SCOOTERS AND MAYBE FOUND SOLUTIONS THERE? LIKE HAVE, THERE'S PROBABLY TOO EARLY FOR THERE TO BE A SET OF BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON MORE GENERALLY ACROSS CITY-WISE? YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, AND I, IT REALLY IS FOCUSED AROUND US MEETING WITH OTHER CITIES, RIGHT? MM-HMM . I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IN THIS TYPE OF, OF INDUSTRY THAT WE KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, WHAT THEIR FAILURES ARE, UM, WHAT THEIR, YOU KNOW, WINS ARE AND YOU KNOW, AND HOW TO CHAMPION THOSE TOGETHER. AND WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER WITH LIKE THE CITY OF, YOU KNOW, DENVER, SEATTLE, YOU JUST TO NAME A FEW. UM, YOU KNOW, DENVER HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF, OF REALLY FIGURING OUT A WAY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DEVICES, BUT REALLY PICK UP THE NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, TRIPS PER DEVICE, RIGHT? UM, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO DO THE SAME THINGS HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER GUIDELINES THAT HAVE COME OUT ACTO, UM, I ALWAYS FORGET THE ACRONYM, SO MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE CAN HELP ME OUT WITH IT. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY COME OUT WITH DIFFERENT GUIDELINES. UM, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME WE WORK WITH THEM, UH, PROVIDE DATA TO THEM ANNUALLY TO, TO GIVE US REPORTS, UM, ON WHAT BEST, UM, OTHER CITIES ARE DOING AND, AND, AND POTENTIALLY OTHER REGULATIONS THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE. UM, I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE REALLY OVER TIME IS PRIOR OURSELVES TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS A NEW INDUSTRY, TRYING TO GATHER AS MUCH DATA AS POSSIBLE TO START MAKING INFORMED DECISIONS ON IT. AND WE'RE NOW AT THAT PLACE, YOU KNOW, BASED OFF OF WORKING WITH LIKE, UM, OPEN MOBILITY FOUNDATION AND OTHERS, UM, TO REALLY STANDARDIZE THE WAY WE COLLECT DATA. SO NOW THAT WE ARE AT A PLACE TO MERELY MAKE CHANGES OVERALL, UM, STARTING WITH THIS FIRST UPDATE TO THE RULE SET, BUT FUTURE CONSISTENT UPDATES AS WE NEEDED TO WITH THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE, BOTH LEGACY DATA THAT WE BACKED AND, AND MOVING FORWARD, UM, AND WHAT OTHER CITIES DO. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY CITY HAS DIFFERENT CONTEXTS GEOGRAPHICALLY, AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IS IMPLIED THERE, BUT ALSO HOW IT'S APPLIED HERE, BOTH WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT THAT'S AROUND US, UM, AS WELL AS THE GEOGRAPHICAL ENVIRONMENT, HILLS AND OTHER THINGS, RIGHT? UM, ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. AND SO WE'VE TAKEN ALL THOSE THINGS TO INTO ACCOUNT, UM, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE TOWARDS RIGHT DIRECTION, UM, BUT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS CONTINUE LEARNING, UM, WITH THE, THE, THE, THE NEW NEWNESS OF THIS INDUSTRY AND TRYING TO GET TO THAT PLACE. I, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKING AN ITERATIVE APPROACH TO THESE REGULATIONS AND UM, IS PROBABLY GONNA FIND WE'RE GONNA GET THERE EVENTUALLY. YOU KNOW, UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT I FIND ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT, UM, THE LACK OF CLARITY ON EXACTLY WHAT PROBLEMS WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE SOMETIMES. AND I THINK THAT, THAT THE SURVEY IS GREAT TO HAVE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE SORTING, YOU'RE GETTING TO REFINE EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS. 'CAUSE UH, THIS CONVERSATION SOMETIMES OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE 'EM BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T LIKE 'EM AND THEY JUST KIND OF THINK THAT THEY'RE UGLY. BUT LIKE SIDEWALK CLUTTER IS A MAJOR ISSUE. THE THE PERCEPTION OF IT NOT BEING VERY SAFE. AND THEN ALSO THAT, UM, THEY'RE GETTING LIKE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING PUT PLACES VERY WELL. UM, SO I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ONES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT ALL THE TIME. BUT ANOTHER ISSUE THAT CAME UP HERE IS THE EQUITY. UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT, DO PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THE SCOOTER GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION IS NOT EQUITABLE? AND DID, WAS THAT LIKE A MAJOR ISSUE THAT YOU SAW IN THE SURVEY? BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY, THAT DOESN'T RISE TO THE TOP OF MY LIST OF CONCERNS ABOUT MICRO MOBILITY AND ACCESS. UM, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FOUND THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL TAKE A SHOT FIRST AND JUST, WE CAN JUMP IN TOO. I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS IS THESE CAN BE A FIRST AND LAST MILE CONNECTION, AND THAT, THAT LAST MILE OR THAT FIRST MILE SHOULDN'T JUST BE DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING A BUS FROM DOWNTOWN SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU STILL GOTTA GET HOME FROM THAT TRANSIT STOP AS WELL. AND SO THAT GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION IS IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THE, THE TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, LIFESTYLES THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING THROUGH THE POLICY CHOICES AND POLICY DIRECTION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. AND SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. IT'S ACCESS NOT ONLY, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN OR IN THE CORE WHERE THE ACTIVITIES MIGHT BE HAPPENING OR THE JOBS MIGHT BE, BUT ALSO GETTING BACK HOME AT THE END OF THE DAY, OR AT THE START OF THE DAY AS WELL, . UM, I THINK THE OTHER PIECE IS JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PRICING AND THE AVAILABILITY OF DEVICES. AND IF ALL THE DEVICES KEEP COMING TO CERTAIN AREAS AND THEY DON'T GET REBALANCED SO THAT THERE IS ACCESS AND AVAILABILITY OF DEVICES, THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE FOR FOLKS TO RELY ON THIS CONSISTENTLY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO GET THAT RIGHT BALANCE IN THE RULES THEMSELVES, IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE CAN KIND OF ENCOURAGE AND WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE FROM THE PROVIDERS. AND LEMME JUST SAY THAT THEY'RE ALSO OPERATING IN OTHER CITIES AND THEY'RE PROVIDING US FEEDBACK, WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. AND IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT DIRECT COMMUNITY, UH, COMMUNICATION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PROVIDERS. 'CAUSE THEY SEE IT TOO, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THEY'VE GOT ACCESS AND COVERAGE AS WELL. UM, SO FINDING THAT RIGHT BALANCE OF ALL THE THINGS WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY IS IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S TOO MUCH CLUTTER, BUT WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE THERE WHEN WE NEED [02:20:01] IT AND WHERE DO WE PARK IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A, A DOCKLESS SYSTEM, BUT WE ALSO WANT 'EM TO PARK OVER HERE. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT BLOCKING THIS. IT'S, IT'S FINDING ALL THAT BALANCE BETWEEN THE TENSIONS THAT EXIST, I THINK. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE JUST, UH, CONTINUING TO ITERATE ON. UM, AND ALSO JUST BECAUSE THAT THESE ARE PRIVATE COMPANIES, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO PUT THESE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN MAKE MONEY AND THERE IS THAT PROFIT MOTIVE. SO THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THE RIDES, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY HAVE A WAY TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST IN THE ACTIVITY CENTERS OF DOWNTOWN, BUT IF THERE REALLY IS THAT SORT OF DEMAND THAT IT CAN GET YOU HOME FROM THE BUS ON EAST SEVENTH STREET OR DOWN ON SOUTH LAMAR OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY COULD HAVE, THEY'RE ALREADY PRETTY MUCH INCENTIVIZED TO BE PUTTING IT THERE AND JUST, UH, DISTRIBUTING THEM WHERE THERE'S DEMAND. AND I WORRY THAT LIKE BY STRANGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE REGULATIONS AND ENCOURAGING IT OR WHATEVER, THAT, UM, THEY SORT OF LOSE THAT. WE'RE JUST GONNA, BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE FURTHER AWAY, BUT EVEN THAT, THERE'S NOT THE DEMAND TO MATCH IT. AND SO I GUESS MY COMMENT IS THAT I HOPE WE'RE CAREFUL WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TRUST THAT, THAT THIS IS PRIMARILY A MARKET DRIVEN, UH, FORM OF MOBILITY THAT SEEMS TO BE DOING A DECENT JOB OF PROVIDING THEM WHERE THERE IS DEMAND. UH, COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER, THANK YOU GUYS. UM, I THINK I, I FIRST NEED TO START WITH SOME KUDOS BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATION IN MAY AFTER THE ENHANCED MICRO, MICRO MOBILITY, UH, REGULATIONS. AND I THINK IT WAS ONE OF OUR MORE CONTENTIOUS, UH, DISCUSSIONS, BUT WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THAT THE ASK THAT THOSE GET DEVELOPED INTO THE FORMAL DIRECTOR'S RULES, UH, AND THAT THERE BE A ROBUST, UH, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. AND, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. UH, YOU'RE ON. SO, UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT. I THINK THE OTHER THING I GOTTA OWN UP TO IS THAT I WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT WRONG. I, I WAS VERY ADAMANT IN THAT MEETING A YEAR AGO THAT IF WE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SCOOTERS, WE WOULD SEE A REDUCTION IN RIDERSHIP. AND THAT CLEARLY DID NOT HAPPEN. AND I THINK THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE WAY YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH LYMAN BIRD, UH, ON MAKING THIS WORK. UH, I WILL NOTE THOUGH, THAT WE ARE STILL WELL BELOW. WE HAD A DROP IN 20 22, 20 23, UM, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DROP THAT HAPPENED ONCE SUPER PEDESTRIAN LINK LEFT, RIGHT? AND SO WE STILL ARE BELOW OUR NUMBERS FROM TWO YEARS AGO BY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, UM, WHICH I THINK THAT UNDERSCORES THAT IF WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO, UH, UH, RIDE MICRO MOBILITY, PERHAPS THE SOLUTION IS NOT THAT WE NEED MORE VEHICLES, THAT WE NEED MORE OPTIONS AND WE NEED COMPETITION. SO THAT THEN LEADS ME TO MY QUESTION. UH, PART OF THE ENHANCED MICRO MOBILITY REGULATIONS A YEAR AGO WAS, UH, CAPPING THE NUMBER OF VENDORS AT TOOT LYMAN BIRD. UM, I, I READ THE DIRECTOR'S RULES AND I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING IN THERE, UH, THAT I SAW ADDRESSING THAT. I'M CURIOUS, IS THAT IN THERE? DID I MISS IT? AND IS THAT STILL ACTIVE, BUT JUST MAYBE NOT PART OF THE DIRECTOR'S RULES? UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SO THE KURT MORATORIUM IS STILL IN PLACE, UM, THAT IS IN PLACE UNTIL WE GET TO THIS RULE OF PROCESS AND, AND, AND UNDERSTAND, UH, OUR NEXT STEPS. THERE ISN'T AN ANYTHING IN THE DRAFT UPDATE TO THE RULES THAT, UH, PROVIDES INFORMATION ON CAPS. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE ARE EVALUATING OVERALL IS HOW WE DO THAT. UM, OUTSIDE OF THE, THIS PROCESS, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT HARD NUMBERS IN THERE. WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT EVALUATION, BUT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO UNDERSTANDING OUR CONS, OUR SYSTEM CONSTRAINTS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT WITHIN, UH, THIS WHOLE RULES UPDATE IS CHANGING THE BOUNDARIES FOR, UM, THE DAF C, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND REALLY PROVIDING MORE ACCESS TO OTHER AREAS AND WHERE, WHERE WE CAN DO MORE DEMAND DRIVEN NEEDS. AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO HELP PROVIDERS REALLY PUSH THOSE DEVICES OUT FURTHER INTO OTHER AREAS AS WELL AS TRYING TO FIND, UH, WAYS FOR THEM TO PUSH OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, THE LAST MILE SOLUTIONS ALONG DIFFERENT CORRIDORS AND, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT'S THE, THAT, THAT'S THE FIRST STEP IN TRULY UNDERSTANDING OUR SYSTEM. UM, AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T PUT ANYTHING IN THE RULES CURRENTLY THAT CAPS DEVICES. I THINK THAT'S AN EVALUATION PROCESS THAT WE DO, WE DO INTERNALLY WITH, UM, OUR TEAM AND THEN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP US GET TO A POINT OF ADDING OTHER SOLUTIONS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, A MOPED SERVICE. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THE RULES THAT REALLY, UH, LET, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD TRULY LAYS OUT, BUT IT REALLY EXPLAINS TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LICENSE AND PERMIT SYSTEM, UM, WHERE IT'S A LICENSE, UM, TO OPERATE A SHARED MOBILITY SERVICE IN AUSTIN. UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE A PERMIT FOR DEVICE TYPES. YEAH. SO THAT COULD BE A SCOOTER, UM, A MOPED, A BIKE, UM, SO THERE COULD BE OTHER, YOU KNOW, PROVIDERS THAT COME IN THAT JUST WANNA FOCUS ON A MOPED SERVICE. UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY WE LEAVE THAT OPTION OPEN FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, TECHNOLOGIES IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, I, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. [02:25:01] I THINK THE, THE ISSUE THOUGH IS I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE MORATORIUM ENDS AND, AND SOME INFORMATION PEOPLE CAN FIND ABOUT THAT MORATORIUM WITH THE CRITERIA FOR ENDING. IT WOULD BE, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS A BIG PART OF THE, THE CITY AUDITOR'S REPORT TOO, THAT, THAT TALKED ABOUT THE ENHANCED, UH, MICRO MOBILITY REGULATIONS FROM A YEAR AGO IS, IS WE DO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, OUR LICENSEES, OUR PERMITEES HAVE A RIGHT TO UNDERSTAND THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT AND FOR THAT ENVIRONMENT TO BE CONSISTENT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT. I, I THINK I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT HARD CAPS IN THE RULES, UM, BUT I THINK THE CRITERIA FOR DECIDING IF WE'RE GOING TO PLACE SOME MORATORIUM, THE CRITERIA FOR THAT, UM, SHOULD BE IN THE RULES. UM, I I, YOU ARE WELCOME TO RESPOND TO THAT IF YOU WANT, BUT THAT WAS JUST A COMMENT, SO I CAN MOVE ON. OKAY. YEAH. UM, SO, UM, UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK, UM, I REALLY LIKE THE EQUITY RULES, UM, RIGHT. AND, AND I, I, I LIKE THAT THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR, FOR FOLKS, UH, CAPPING AT 50% FOR PEOPLE UNDER 80% FOR THE MFI. UM, I, I THINK COMMISSIONER KAPELMAN KIND OF HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD HERE, WHICH IS, I, I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO APPROACH THIS AS A MARKET DRIVEN, UH, UH, AREA, RIGHT? THEY ARE GOING TO BE INCENTIVIZED BY PROFIT. SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M MISSING IN THOSE RULES IS, IS WHAT IS THE INCENTIVE FOR, FOR LYMAN BIRD TO GET PEOPLE ONTO THESE, YOU KNOW, UH, REDUCED PAYMENT PROGRAMS TO, TO GET PEOPLE RIDING IN, IN, IN LOW INCOME AREAS. UM, THAT'S A GREAT, UH, QUESTION COMMISSIONER. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING THROUGH AND UNDERSTANDING THROUGH, UM, OUR LEGAL REVIEW AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT REQUIREMENTS WE CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, EQUITY AND, AND WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL WITH OUR GRADING SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE. BUT I THINK OVERALL, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES ARE REALLY, ARE REALLY MOTIVATED TO DO THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY WORKING WITH THEM TO, UM, UM, REALLY PROVIDE DEVICES IN THOSE AREAS. UM, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, PROFIT DRIVEN, IF YOU WILL, UM, THEIR FOCUS IS TO, TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO ALL. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT OVERALL. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WITH BIRD AND LIME, THEY'VE REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF, OF WORKING WITH THEM AND, AND FINDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND DIFFERENT AREAS. UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE LAID OUT IN THIS, IN, IN THE RULES THEMSELVES IS HOW DO WE DO THAT? HOW DO WE REQUIRE, UM, POTENTIAL, UM, LOCATIONS FOR OPPORTUNITIES AND HOW DO WE PLAN BETTER FOR THEM, INCLUDING MORE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND, AND PROVIDING THOSE TOOLS, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, BURDEN LIME DO HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND HOW DOES IT GET OUT THERE MORE OFTEN? UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO, BUT WE'RE STILL UNDER, UM, REVIEW OF THESE DRAFT RULES AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE. YEAH. UH, THAT'S TOTALLY FAIR. AND I DEFINITELY DO LIKE THAT YOU, YOU WENT TO THE REQUIREMENT, UM, UH, ASPECT WHEN IT CAME TO DOING THOSE COMMUNITY SAFETY MEETINGS. UM, THE LAST TWO QUESTIONS, UM, FIRST YOU, YOU GUYS DEFINITELY A BIG FOCUS FROM YOU ALL IS, IS MAKING SURE SCOOTERS ARE PARKED WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PARKED. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT NCO, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF, UH, CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS, COMMISSIONER , UM, UH, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THEM. ONE, A LOT OF THEIR GUIDELINES AROUND, UM, UH, UM, DOCKLESS VEHICLES IS THAT, UH, STREET CORRALS ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE THE WAY TO GO, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY REDUCE CONFLICTS WITH, UM, UH, SIDEWALKS. UH, AND THEY PROVIDE A, A CLEAR, UH, AND HEIGHTENED AREA FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PARKING, RIGHT? YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT BY JUST BEING ON THE STREET. YOU DON'T NEED TO GO INTO THE APP AND FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU NEED TO PARK, WHICH I KNOW IS A FRUSTRATION FOR MANY PEOPLE. I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES DEVELOP STREET CORRAL PROGRAMS THROUGH THEIR RULES. A LOT OF THEM ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, THE LICENSEES KICK IN A LITTLE BIT AS PART OF A USER FEE IN ORDER TO FUND THOSE CORRALS. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL CONSIDERED? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S STILL ON THE TABLE? UM, A GREAT, GREAT QUESTION. UH, COMMISSIONER, I THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I THINK THE, THE, THE, UH, VERTICAL ELEMENT WITHIN OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT FOR SOMEONE TO SEE PARKING CORRAL IS IMPORTANT. WE'VE STARTED, YOU KNOW, CONVERTING SOME OF THOSE, UM, UH, CURRENT CORRALS THAT WE HAVE FOR, FOR BICYCLES, EXPANDING THOSE OUT, UM, TO HAVE BOTH SCOOTER AND BICYCLE CORRALS. AND WE'VE STARTED THERE TO UNDERSTAND THOSE USES AND SEEING WHAT OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND, AND AREAS THAT WE CAN AND ENHANCE THAT AS WE REALLY FOCUS ON TRYING TO PUT OUT AS MANY BOXES OR, UH, INTEGRATED CORRALS AS WE CAN. UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE REQUIREMENT FOR PROVIDERS TO KICK IN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO AND, AND, AND, AND DEFINITELY A RECOMMENDATION THAT YA COULD PUT FORTH, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO LOOK INTO. UM, 'CAUSE I, AS, AS YOU SAID, I, WE'VE NOTICED OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. UM, WE JUST, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE, THE, THE LEGALITIES ON THAT CURRENTLY AND WHAT WE CAN DO HERE. SO SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY CAN COME BACK TO. AND I'LL JUST ADD TOO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO RECEIVE SOME GRANT FUNDS, UH, FOR MOBILITY HUBS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY INTEGRATE SCOOTER, UH, DOCKLESS PARKING INTO THOSE AS WELL AS AN OVERALL KIND OF FIRST LAST MILE TRANSIT WITH THE, THE AVAILABILITY OF DEVICES. AND SO, UH, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF, I THINK, DIFFERENT SOURCES THAT [02:30:01] WE CAN TAP INTO CURRENTLY AND WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT SURVEY WAS REALLY HELPFUL IS TO SEE THAT PUBLIC INPUT OF WHERE DO PEOPLE WANT THESE AND WHERE DO THEY NEED THESE AND, AND WHERE'S THE USE? AND WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE VENDORS AND GET SOME, SOME GOOD DATA AS WELL AS FAR AS WHERE TRIPS ARE ENDING AND, AND WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THOSE DEVICE, UM, PARKING BOXES AND CORRALS AND, AND UH, MOBILITY HUBS. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE. WE'VE GOT THE SOME FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE THAT NOW, AND IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY REVISIT THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND I'VE ALSO SEEN SOME CITIES, YOU KNOW, USE THIS AS A TOOL FOR DAYLIGHTING, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD ALSO TAP INTO A LOT OF VISION ZERO FUNDING THAT'S OUT THERE TOO. SO GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING INTO THAT. UM, LAST QUESTION, UM, WHEN I TALKED, UM, UH, WITH LYMAN BIRD, I HAVEN'T CHECKED IN A WHILE, BUT WHEN I TALKED THEM A WHILE BACK ABOUT THE RULES AND, AND WHAT THEY FACE, UM, ONE THING THEY POINTED OUT IS THAT OUR PERFORMANCE BOND IS AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER VEHICLE RIGHT NOW. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S STAYING THE SAME IN THESE RULES, BUT FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT IS, UM, THAT, YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT, UH, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES, AND AS FAR AS I I'VE HEARD FROM PROVIDERS IS PRETTY HIGH FOR, UH, UH, UH, OTHER OUR PEER CITIES. UM, AND I, I THINK FROM LYMAN BIRD'S PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY EVER GIVE THAT BACK AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STILL OPERATING, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SUNKEN COST FOR THEM, BUT IT'S ALSO MONEY THAT THE CITY CAN'T REALLY SPEND UNLESS, UH, YOU KNOW, A A PROVIDED THOSE KAPUTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID HAPPEN. UM, BUT I, I GUESS WHY ARE WE CERTAIN THAT IT NEEDS TO STAY AT A HUNDRED AND, AND HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF LOWERING THAT AND THEN PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO INCREASE THE, THE USER FEE, THE, THE PERMITTING FEE, UH, TO GIVE SOME ACTUAL CASH THAT WE CAN USE TO IMPROVE MICRO MOBILITY? UH, THAT'S GREAT COM. UH, QUESTION COMMISSIONER, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO. UM, IT HAS NOT CHANGED. IT IS STILL A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER UNIT. I KNOW THAT WAS LIKE THE RUNNING COST AT A TIME, UM, FOR OPERATIONAL, LIKE THAT IS WHAT IT COSTS FOR SOMEONE STAFF TO GO PICK UP A DEVICE AND BRING IT BACK, RIGHT? UM, AND SO I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF, IF ANYTHING CHANGES. WE, WE HAVE, UM, UM, USED, UH, AND WENT AGAINST THE PERFORMANCE BONDS IN THE PAST FOR PROVIDERS THAT HAVE LEFT. AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING AS A SAFETY MEASURE FOR THEM TO GET UP AND LEAVE. I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY CHANGE AS THE, THE MARKET AND, YOU KNOW, THE INDUSTRY STABLES A LITTLE BIT, UH, STABILIZES A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE ENSURE AS A SAFETY MEASURE TO ENSURE THAT, UM, IF IT DOES OCCUR OR IF OUR STAFF HAS TO GO OUT THERE AND GET IT, THAT WE HAVE AN OPTION FOR US TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN GET OUR COST RECOVERY FOR THOSE DEVICES, UM, TO PICK UP THOSE DEVICES. AWESOME. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, COMMISSIONER PSAD. UH, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, UM, I THINK, UH, IT'S ALLUDED TO IN, IN THE, THE SLIDES Y'ALL PRESENTED TODAY THAT THERE'S, UH, A, A DATA SET THAT Y'ALL RECEIVE FROM, UH, THE MICRO MOBILITY PROVIDERS, WHICH IS SAY, UM, A LINEMAN, BIRD. UM, UH, COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIMENSIONS OF THAT DATA SET ARE? LIKE WHAT SORTS OF THINGS ARE YOU ABLE TO ANALYZE? I'M, UH, I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED, UM, IN UNDERSTANDING WHETHER YOU ARE ABLE TO, UM, UH, UNDERSTAND THE COST PER RIDE, UM, PER, YOU KNOW, A UNIT OF DISTANCE. INTERESTING. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. UM, I DON'T THINK, UM, WE CAN DO THAT CURRENTLY, BUT SOMETHING I CAN GO BACK AND AND UNDERSTAND, I KNOW THE PROVIDERS, THE COMPANIES THEMSELVES, UM, HAVE THAT INFORMATION. UM, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT DATA, SO WE HAVE TWO, UH, UH, DATA SETS THAT WE REQUIRE OR WAYS THAT WE GET IT. UM, ONE IS THROUGH MANUAL REPORTS THAT THEY SEND US MONTHLY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOOK AT FOR A NUMBER OF TRIPS AND DEVICES DEPLOYED, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, COLLISION CRASHES. UM, AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO HAVE A THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT WE USE, UH, THE MOBILITY DATA SPECIFICATION, UM, THAT PULLS THAT DATA FOR, UH, RIDERSHIP. SO THAT'S INCLUDING WHERE THE DA UH, WHERE DEVICES ARE, UH, ON STREET CURRENTLY, WHICH ONES ARE AVAILABLE, WHICH ONES ARE NOT AVAILABLE, HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN SITTING. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND, UH, DEMAND AND USE ON, ON CERTAIN CORRIDORS AND HOW, UM, DENSE THAT LOOKS LIKE. UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NORMAL DATA THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CROSS TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY TRIPS PER DEVICE AS WELL AS, UM, UH, TRIP DISTANCE AVERAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND DOES THIS DATA SET THEN BECOME AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AS WELL? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO WE HAVE, UM, UH, A WEBSITE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC THAT, UM, ALLOWS FOR THAT DATA TO BE DOWNLOADED, I BELIEVE. UM, OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY JUST VIEW IT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE TO 'EM, UH, TO THE, TO THE CITY, UH, AND TO THE PUBLIC. UM, I, I CAN DEFINITELY, UH, REACH BACK OUT AND PROVIDE THAT, UH, LINK TO EVERYBODY SO THAT THEY HAVE IT. GOT IT. YEAH, I MEAN, UM, INTUITIVELY, UH, WELL ANYWAY, I, I'M A PROLIFIC USER OF MICRO MOBILITY, RIGHT? I JUST PULLED UP THE APPS ON MY PHONE JUST TO LOOK AT THE, MY RIDE HISTORIES. [02:35:01] UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO TRACK THE COST PER RIDE FOR MYSELF AS AN AVERAGE, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY PRESENT, UM, WITHIN THE, THE APPS THEMSELVES. AND SO I JUST DID LIKE A, A, A MIN, YOU KNOW, MEDIAN AND AND MODE KIND OF THING. MM-HMM . UM, AND MY LAZIEST DAY, UM, WHEN I USED, UH, A MICRO MOBILITY, UM, WHERE I WALKED MAYBE FIVE OR SIX BLOCKS COST ME ABOUT $4 AND 35 CENTS. UM, WHICH IS MORE THAN I WOULD'VE PAID IF I HAD RIDDEN A BUS, UM, ANY CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF DISTANCE, UM, IN THE CITY KIND OF THING. SO LIKE, AS A LAST MILE TOOL, EVEN THOUGH I'M A PROLIFIC USER OF IT AND I LOVE THE HECK OUTTA MICRO MOBILITY, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COST IS MEETING ME WHERE, UM, I THINK THE UTILITY NECESSARILY IS. BUT THIS IS JUST ME LOOKING AT MY OWN DATA, UM, AND IT'S A ANECDOTAL SLIVER OF, UH, OF EVIDENCE. I'D LOVE TO ANALYZE THIS, UM, KIND OF LARGER AT SCALE, SORT OF UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE AVERAGE USER TRYING TO GO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISTANCE, DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO ADD THIS AS A LAST MILE SOLUTION? UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, TAKING ON AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO, UM, YADA YADA YADA, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO ANYWAY, JUST, UH, AS FAR AS YOU ARE CONSIDERING THE RULES, UM, AND, AND, AND ADAPTING THEM FOR THE FUTURE, I'D BE CURIOUS, AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, UH, IF I TACKED ON A MICRO MOBILITY SOLUTION TO THE END OF MY RIDE, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO TO MY OVERALL COST? NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR OUR PRESENTERS? YES. JUST ONE THING REAL QUICK IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEAH. UM, JIM DALE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, LEWIS A QUESTION, AND I THINK HE WAS WANTING TO ANSWER IT. UM, UM, CHAIR, BOTH YOU AND COMMISSIONER KAMAN ASKED ABOUT SAFETY AND LEWIS'S PRIOR TEAM UNDER VISION ZERO IS PROBABLY DOING SOME OF THE, UM, MOST CUTTING EDGE OR LEADING WORK IN THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF GETTING DATA ON CRASHES FROM ADDITIONAL SOURCES, BESIDES WHAT'S IN THE TECH DOT REPORTING. AND I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF IT WAS ALL RIGHT FOR LEWIS TO MAYBE TALK A COUPLE MINUTES ABOUT THAT AND, UM, TO HELP MAYBE ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR IN A FUTURE VISION, VISION ZERO PRESENTATION, WE COULD HELP ANSWER THIS QUESTION ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING THROUGH SOME OF THESE UNIQUE SOURCES OF DATA AND, AND SCOOTERS. WE DO. AND I, I JUST, WITH THAT, I WANNA POINT OUT, WE DO HAVE VISION JANERO ON OUR DRAFT AGENDA FOR JUNE. SO, UM, SO I DON'T, WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO RESPOND ABOUT THE MATTERS THAT WE DISCUSSED TODAY, IF YOU LIKE. YEAH, I'LL BE VERY SHORT AND JUST STEAL ALL THEIR THUNDER BEFORE THEY COME HERE, SO THAT'LL BE GOOD. , UH, THE, YEAH, THE VISION ZERO TEAM'S, UM, DONE A GREAT JOB JUST BUILDING OVER YEARS OF TRYING TO GET BETTER ACCESS AND UNDERSTAND THIS DATA. YOU KNOW, THE, THE MOST DETAILED REPORT ABOUT SCOOTER SAFETY WAS DONE PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO AT THIS POINT WITH THE CDC, WORKING WITH AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE EXTENT OF INJURIES, WHAT TYPES OF INJURIES WERE THEY SEEING, UM, THAT REPORT HELPED US 'CAUSE THEY ACTUALLY WENT, YOU KNOW, PERSON BY PERSON. WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? WHAT, HOW WAS IT DOCUMENTED? IT, IT, IT SHOWED A LOT OF LIGHT INTO THE TYPES OF INJURIES THAT WE WERE SEEING. AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I THINK THE MORE SEVERE ONES ARE TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH VEHICLES AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE'VE EVER HAD ACCESS TO DATA WISE. 'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT GET A POLICE CRASH REPORT AND THEY'LL ACTUALLY GO INTO THE CRASH SYSTEM THAT WE USE TO PULL THE DATA EVERY DAY AND, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. VISION ZERO ACROSS THE CITY. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S LEAVING A HUGE GAP IN, HEY, I JUST RODE MY, MYSELF AND I, I HIT A CURB AND I FELL OVER AND I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL WE DON'T HAVE VISIBILITY INTO THAT. USUALLY WE HADN'T FOR YEARS. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I RODE AND IT, IT HURT FOR A LITTLE BIT FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO MY DOCTOR AND WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO DOCTOR RECORDS. LIKE THE PERSONAL INFORMATION ELEMENTS OF HEALTHCARE IS JUST SUCH A BIG BEAST. WE CAN'T REALLY DIVE INTO IT. BUT WE CAN DO IS GET EMERGENCY, UH, MEDICAL SERVICES DATA. AND WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS INTEGRATE THAT INTO OUR CRASH RECORDS DATABASE SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE, DID AN AMBULANCE SHOW UP? YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THE POLICE WON'T SHOW UP UNLESS IT'S SEVERE AND THERE'S A CAR INVOLVED. SO DID AN AMBULANCE SHOW UP? THEY'RE SHOWING UP A LOT MORE FREQUENTLY NOW. WE'VE GOT A, A LOT MORE VISIBILITY INTO THE SCALE OF THE ISSUE AND GETTING TO THE POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, IT, IT, IT'S ALWAYS A RELATIVE CONVERSATION, RIGHT? LIKE PEOPLE, WE KNOW WHAT THE SAFETY IS IN MOTOR VEHICLES AND WE KNOW THE INJURIES AND DEATHS THAT HAPPEN FROM MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A PERSON WALKING OR BIKING OR A SCOOTER INVOLVED OR IT'S JUST A SINGLE VEHICLE. WE'VE REALLY NOT HAD THAT VISIBILITY INTO THE SCALE OF THE ISSUE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING SOME HOSPITAL DATA FROM THE PRIMARY TIER ONE HOSPITAL IN AUSTIN, BUT THEY JUST GIVE US KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THEY'VE SEEN THAT MONTH. AND IF SOMEBODY SAID THEY WERE RELATED TO A SCOOTER INJURY OR NOT. BUT EMS ACTUALLY IS A, IS A REPUTABLE SOURCE, YOU KNOW, CITY SOURCE WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE AND WE'RE TRYING TO INTEGRATE THAT, DO SOME CROSS REFERENCE WITH THE CRASH DATA TO SEE IF THERE WAS A MOTOR VEHICLE INVOLVED OR NOT WHEN THE AMBULANCE SHOWED UP. AND IF THERE ISN'T, THEN WE'VE GOT A MUCH BETTER DATA SET NOW THAT'S BEING LABELED BY A PARAMEDIC ON THE SCENE. HERE'S THE SEVERITY OF INJURY, WHAT THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGE OF SAYING WHAT'S THE SEVERITY OF INJURY? 'CAUSE THE CRASH REPORT [02:40:01] HAS FIVE LEVELS OF SEVERITY. UH, A HOSPITAL USES I THINK 70 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THEIR INJURY SEVERITY SCORE. SO THERE'S JUST A DIFFERENCE OF INTEGRATING THAT DATA, DIFFERENT TYPES OF DATA INTO ONE DATA SET. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT THE DATA FROM EMS COMING REGULARLY AND NOW WE'RE INTEGRATING IT INTO OUR DATABASE TO BE ABLE TO SEE AND CROSS REFERENCE AND UNDERSTAND HOW, WHICH ONES ARE LABELED WITH SCOOTER, WHICH ONES ARE LABELED WITH MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE. CAN WE GET MORE CONSISTENCY THERE AND THEN UNDERSTAND THE SCALE AND NOT ONLY SCALE OF THE INCIDENTS, BUT THE SCALE OF INJURY AS WELL. GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS A MOTION. I MEAN, I GUESS I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT I'M OPENING THE FLOOR IF ANYONE HAS A MOTION. IS THERE, I JUST WANTED TO JUST POLL THE ROOM. IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN WORKING ON A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE JUNE MEETING SIMILARLY TO THE RPP? THIS JUST 'CAUSE I DON'T, HERE, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. IF, IF, IF YOU WANNA BRING IT BACK AND YOU'RE NOT READY TO COMMIT TONIGHT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY, IF WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT WANNA PUT TOGETHER A REC, WE CAN GET IT ON THE, UH, JUNE AGENDA. I THINK WE WILL NEED A PREPARED REC BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, I'M GONNA ABOUT TO TELL YOU WHEN WE GET INTO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BUSY JUNE AS WE HAVE A BUSY MAY APPARENTLY. BUT, UM, I, I THINK, UM, WE'LL NEED SOMETHING PREPARED AND PRECIATE SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY TAKE ACTION ON PRETTY QUICKLY. UM, IDEALLY. SO, UM, UH, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT RIGHT NOW, YOU COULD CERTAINLY TELL ME, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, I THINK PROBABLY I WOULD NEED TO KNOW THAT. SO, UM, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY MEREDITH AND ANDRE AS WELL. SO, UM, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, JUST WAVE YOUR HANDS OR DO WHATEVER. BUT, UM, YOU CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. I'M JUST, I'LL SAY TOO, I, I THINK I CERTAINLY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS. IF IT IS JUST ME ON THE COMMISSION THAT IS INTERESTED, THEN I MIGHT JUST PUT THEM IN AS MY OWN COMMENTS RATHER THAN FORCE US TO DO A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT TO, LET'S CHEW ON IT. I, I THINK IF SPENCER'S INTERESTED, IF ANYONE ELSE IS CONTEMPLATING OR FEELING INTERESTED ON IT, YOU COULD EMAIL SPENCER AND WE COULD GO FROM THERE. I THINK WE GAVE Y'ALL SOME REALLY GOOD ACTIONABLE FEEDBACK JUST IN OUR REMARKS TODAY, EVEN IF WE DON'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE CASE. YEAH. OKAY. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT, WELL WITH THAT [7. Update from Commissioner Schumacher from the Downtown Commission regarding actions taken at the April 16, 2025, meeting.] I'M GONNA MOVE ON INTO OUR COMMITTEE UPDATES SECTION. UH, WE'LL TRY TO KNOCK THESE OUT PRETTY QUICKLY WITH RESPECT TO EVERYBODY'S TIME. SO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WAS UPDATE FROM COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER FROM THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION REGARDING ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE APRIL 16TH, 2025 MEETING. YES, SORRY, LEMME UNMUTE MYSELF. THE, UH, UTC DID PASS A, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON, UH, CAPS, UH, URGING THE CITY COUNCIL TO FULLY FUND ALL ROADWAY ELEMENTS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT FULL CAPS AS DESIGNED ALONG THE I 35 EXPRESS CENTRAL. THAT WAS THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION? YES, YES, YES. DOWNTOWN COMMISSION. OKAY, THAT'S INTERESTING. THANK YOU. UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS UPDATE [8. Update from Commissioner Schumacher from the Bicycle Advisory Council regarding actions taken at the April 15, 2025, meeting] FROM COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER FROM THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE APRIL 15TH, 2025 MEETING. YES. UH, NO ACTIONS TAKEN, SOME INTERESTING, UM, UH, BRIEFINGS FROM, UH, LIVING STREETS AND SHARED STREETS. UM, I DEFINITELY AM EXCITED FOR US TO GET THE SHARED STREETS, UH, BRIEFING, UM, LOT OF STUFF TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES MORE PERMANENT, REALLY GREAT. UM, STUFF ABOUT THE DETOUR FOR THE AUSTIN CENTER EXPANSION, AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER, UM, AND SOME FEDERAL GRANT UPDATES. GREAT, THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NINE, UPDATE FROM [9. Update from Commissioner Kavelman from the Pedestrian Advisory Council regarding actions taken at the April 7, 2025, and May 5, 2025, meetings.] COMMISSIONER KAMAN REGARDING THE PEDESTRIAN FROM THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE APRIL 7TH, 2025 AND MAY 5TH, 2025, MEETING BUSY BEES. YEAH, SO, UM, ON THE 7TH OF APRIL, THEY DID PASS THEIR, UM, CAMPO RTP RECOMMENDATION AND THEN HEARD SOME PRESENTATIONS. I AM NOT GONNA, I'M GONNA BE HONEST HERE, UM, THE MONDAY MAY 5TH, I DID NOT GET A REPORT FROM THE PAC, BUT IT IS A BIKE IMPACT. IT IMPACT, YEAH, IT'S A BACKPACK. SO DO YOU WANT TO HELP ME OUT HERE, SPENCER? IT IT, SAME UPDATES AS THE ONE I JUST GAVE. 'CAUSE IT WAS A JOINT MEETING. YES. OKAY. THERE WE GO. I GOT IT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN UPDATE FROM [10. Update from Chair Somers from the City Council Mobility Committee regarding actions taken at the April 17, 2025, meeting.] CHAIR SUMMERS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MOBILITY COMMITTEE REGARDING ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE APRIL 17TH, 2025 MEETING. SO THAT WAS, UM, ACTUALLY SIMILAR, PRETTY SIMILAR, UH, AGENDA TO WHAT WE HAD TODAY. SO THEY HAD THE, UM, UH, THE RPP AND UM, UH, AND MICRO MOBILITY UPDATES. UH, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVANCED VERSIONS BECAUSE, UM, WE WERE A LITTLE BIT AFTER THEM, BUT THEY DID HAVE THOSE UPDATES AND THAT WAS REALLY MOST OF THEIR MEETING, I THINK. LET ME FIND, I THINK THERE WAS ONE MORE THING. UM, THEY [02:45:01] ALSO HAD, UM, CONSTRUCTION COORDINATION PROJECTS AS IT RELATES TO OUTREACH, SAFETY AND MOBILITY, AND THEN ONGOING, UH, PRO PROGRAMS AND MOBILITY PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS REGION. SORT OF A HIGH LEVEL CONSTRUCTION AND SERVICE UPDATE. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD. UM, THAT BRINGS US, CONCLUDES OUR ITEMS. UM, SO WE'RE INTO FUTURE [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA ITEMS. I AM GONNA, UH, TAKE THE FLOOR HERE AND JUST KIND OF, I DON'T, A LOT OF TIMES WE DO HAVE A PAPER THAT HAS THE AGENDA ITEMS. Y'ALL DON'T HAVE IT TODAY, BUT I HAVE IT IN MY EMAIL. SO I'M GONNA READ YOU WHAT I CURRENTLY HAVE FOR THE JUNE MEETING. UM, SO WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM LIVING STREETS AND MAYBE THAT ALSO INCLUDES SHARED STREETS. I DON'T KNOW, I'LL CHECK ON THAT. UH, SPENCER, UH, VISIONS. OKAY, GREAT. SO UNLESS, UNLESS YOU ALL DON'T WANT IT TO. NO, WE DO. WE DO WANT IT TO. SO COMBINED PRESENTATION HELPFUL. GREAT. YES, I AGREE. THANK YOU. SO LIVING STREETS, SHARED STREETS, PROBABLY JUST A BRIEFING. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM THERE. VISION ZERO AND DISTRACTED DRIVING. WE TALKED MUCH ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT TODAY. UM, WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM CITY LEAP AND ALL OF THOSE HONESTLY MAY JUST BE BRIEFINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ACTION FROM THOSE. I, I'LL TRY TO INVESTIGATE A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, ALSO DISCUSSION OF OUR ANNUAL REPORT. SO THE ANNUAL REPORT WILL PASS AT THE JULY MEETING. I'M GONNA PREPARE IT IN JUNE FOR THE JULY MEETING, BUT I WANNA USE THE OPPORTUNITY IN JUNE TO GET Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK PRIMARILY ABOUT THE GOALS FOR THE COMMISSION FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. UM, SO IF YOU COULD THINK THROUGH THAT AND GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK AT THE JUNE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO I CAN PREPARE THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR JULY, AND THEN A RECOMMENDATION ON RPP FOR SURE. MAYBE MICRO MOBILITY, BUT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT THAT. AND THEN I ALSO HAVE BUBBLING UP, I'M GONNA TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TIME SENSITIVE IS AN, UH, ABOUT 180 3 EXPANSION. IF THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, REMEMBER IN OUR CAMPO RECOMMENDATION, OUR CAMPO 2050 REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WE MADE SOME REMARKS ABOUT, UM, THE EXPANSION OF SEVERAL HIGHWAYS, ONE OF WHICH BEING, UH, 180 3. AND, UM, THERE IS SOME, UM, ACTION BUBBLING UP THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE TAKEN PROBABLY OVER THE SUMMER, BUT IT MAY BE ABLE TO BE JULY. SO I'M GONNA TRY TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT. UM, AND THEN I HAVE SOME THINGS IN THE DOCK. SO THIS IS NTO LANE WIDTH. WE'VE BEEN SITTING ON THAT FOR A WHILE. MY SAFE ROUTE TO PARKS IDEA, MAYBE A BRIEFING ON THE CAP METRO 2035 TRANSIT PLAN THAT'S PRETTY TIMELY, PRETTY SOON, PROBABLY A TOUR OF TPW DIVISIONS, UH, MAYBE A BOND SUPPORTIVE ORDINANCE. AND WE EVENTUALLY NEED TO MAKE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT TO REPLACE COMMISSIONER WHEELER, WHO'S NO LONGER WITH US ON THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. SO THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT I HAVE THAT I KNOW OF, UM, THAT I'M TRACKING. SO ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT I HAVE NOT LISTED? I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GET 'EM IN JUNE UNLESS IT'S LIKE THE HIGHWAYS ARE ON FIRE OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMETHING REALLY TIMELY. UM, I HAVE A, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS MAINLY, UM, WITH THE, OH MY GOD, I'M BLANKING ALREADY. OH, ARE YOU HOPING TO GET C-T-R-M-A STAFF IN HERE FOR THE 180 3 OR WOULD YOU, UM, OR ARE YOU THINKING THAT IT MIGHT BE JUST SOMEONE FROM THE CITY? I, GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T, I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THAT. I THINK THE FIRST THING IS FIGURING OUT WHEN, AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS FIGURING OUT WHO MAYBE OKAY. BUT YES. UM, THAT COULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF THEY'LL COME AND SEE US. WE'VE HAD TROUBLE GETTING, LIKE CAMPO WON'T COME ANYMORE. THEY USED TO COME, I, I REMEMBER THEM COMING IN THE, WHEN I FIRST JOINED THIS COMMISSION, BUT CAMPO WOULDN'T COME THIS TIME. OH MY GOSH. THEY, THEY SAY THAT THEY DEFER TO LIKE CITY STAFF. SO I CAN PUT THAT ON THE DOCKET FOR THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE BOND SUPPORTIVE, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE A NEEDS ASSESSMENT UNTIL JULY OR LIKE AUGUST. SO I FEEL LIKE, UH, THE, EVEN THE BOND ELECTION ADVISORY TASK FORCE IS NOT PUTTING FORTH THEIR RECOMMENDATION UNTIL THE NEW UPDATED IS LIKE APRIL OR MAY OF 26. SO THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THIS IS THE IDEA TO RE SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS FOR APPROVED BOND PROJECTS. IT'S LIKE REDUCING INTERNAL CITY BARRIERS TO ACCOMPLISHING OUR OWN PROJECTS. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. YES. YEAH, , BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF ON OUR LONG TERM 'CAUSE IT'S NOT TIME SENSITIVE. WHENEVER WE HAVE TIME, WE'LL DO IT, I THINK, AND IT'S GONNA REQUIRE SOME THOUGHT TO WRITE IT UP, SO. OKAY. OTHER ITEMS? YEAH. COMMISSIONER BUFFET. OH, CAN YOU JUST REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE, ABOUT CAMPO AND THERE BEING TIME TO DO IT IN JUNE? YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IN, ISN'T THE CAMPO MEETING MAY 12TH? OH, WE ALREADY GOT OUR RECOMMENDATION. WE, WE DID OUR CAMPO RECOMMENDATION IN WE DID DIDN'T LAST MEETING. YES. OKAY. SO I THINK, SORRY, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOR JUNE RELATED TO CAMPO? NOTHING. NOTHING. OKAY. SO, SO HE ASKED IF WE TAKE UP 180 3 EXPANSION IF C-T-R-M-A WILL COME OUT TO SPEAK TO US, AND I SAID WE CAN CERTAINLY INVITE THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW [02:50:01] IF THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE, CAMPO WHO WON'T COME. OH, GOT IT. OKAY. AND C-T-R-R-M-A IS, IT'S, UH, CENTRAL TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY. SO THEY'RE THE CONSTRUCT AND, UH, MAINTAIN TOLL ROAD PROJECTS, INCLUDING LIKE 180 3 NORTH, UM, THE MOPAC EXPRESS LANES, UH, 45, I'M PROBABLY MISSING SOME. OKAY. THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT WOULD BE LIKE THEIR, THEIR ROLE IN RESPONSE TO THIS, THEY'RE THE ONES PROPOSING THIS MASSIVE EXPANSION OR THEY'RE GONNA BE INVOLVED IN THIS MASSIVE EXPANSION OF 180 3 CAMPO. OH YES. OKAY. YES. GOT IT. I'M HERE FOR THAT PROJECT. CAMPO FUNDS IT, BUT C-T-M-R-A IMPLEMENTS. OH, GOT IT, GOT IT, GOT IT. YEAH. THANK YOU. DOES THAT, YEP. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL . UM, OTHER, UH, AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA. AND SO, UH, IF THERE, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 7:55 PM THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.