[CALL TO ORDER]
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WELCOME TO THE REGULAR CALL MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION.
IT IS 3 0 5 AND TODAY'S FRIDAY, MAY 16.
WE'RE MEETING IN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ROOM AT THE AUSTIN CITY HALL.
I'M RYAN ALVAREZ, THE STAFF LIAISON, AND WE HAVE MIA DEMARS.
SHE IS THE BACKUP FOR THE STAFF LIAISON, AND WE HAVE DIRECTOR OF OFFICE POLICE, UH, OVERSIGHT DIRECTOR, GAIL MCCANN.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, NEIL AUGU.
ALRIGHT, LET, LET'S BEGIN WITH ROLL CALL TO FIRM OF QUORUM, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
I'M GONNA CALL YOUR NAME AND IF YOU'RE PRESENT, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.
COMMISSIONER CHRISTOPHER HARRIS.
COMMISSIONER LAURA CORTEZ FRANCO COMMISSIONER MAKA ERO, COMMISSIONER RUBIN DEPA AND COMMISSIONER TERRY FLOOD.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER DEMARS JACKSON, COMMISSIONER KATHY RUSSELL, COMMISSIONER MEKA ERO ARE NOT PRESENT.
AND COMMISSIONER CARLOS GREAVES IS NOT PRESENT AS WELL.
A COR A QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
WE MAY NOW PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA.
THE FIRST, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
[1. Discussion and election of the Chair and Vice Chair. ]
ITEM IS THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE.AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE NOMINATIONS RIGHT NOW FOR THE FIRST CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR? I NOMINATED? I NOMINATE DEREK EUGENE.
COMMISSIONER JOHN BESKI, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? YES.
SEEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR FOR COMMISSIONER JOHN BESKI.
FOR CHAIR CHAIR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
WITH THE 6 0 4, I MEAN THE SIX ZERO.
WITH THE SIX ZERO VOTE, COMMISSIONER JOHN BESKI HAS BEEN ELECTED FOR CHAIR.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA REPEAT THE SAME PROCESS FOR VICE CHAIR.
ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER CORTEZ FRANCO.
COMMISSIONER CORTEZ FRANCO, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR? I, SO, ALRIGHT.
SEEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR FOR COMMISSIONER LAURA CORTEZ FRANCO FOR VICE CHAIR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
WITH THE 6 0 4, I MEAN SIX ZERO VOTE, COMMISSIONER LAURA CORTEZ FRANCO HAS BEEN ELECTED FOR VICE CHAIR.
IS THAT RIGHT? NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON
[2. Discussion and approval of the Community Police Review Commission bylaws.]
TO THE APPROVAL OF CPRC BYLAWS COMMISSION.YOU HAD RECEIVED A DRAFT WITH STAFF EDITS, MARK IN RED.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS TO THE BYLAWS? UH, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THE BYLAWS IF I MAY PROCEED OR BE RECOGNIZED.
UH, SIR, WOULD YOU MIND PULLING MY CLOSER NOW? YES.
YEAH, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON IT.
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UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHO WROTE THIS, IF THAT CAN BE ASKED? THESE ARE THE STANDARD BYLAWS FOR ALL CITY COMMISSIONS AND DOES THE LAW ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CODE TWO 15, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THAT? SO, THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT, CHAPTER TWO 15, SAYS THAT THIS COMMISSION SHALL BE RUN ACCORDING TO CHAPTER TWO ONE, WHICH IS THE CHAPTER THAT, UH, PROVIDES THE PROCEDURES FOR ALL CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.AND THERE'S A PROVISION IN CHAPTER TWO, ONE THAT SAYS, UM, THE STANDARD CITY BYLAWS ARE, UM, PROVIDED YOU CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THEM, BUT ANY CHANGES TO THESE BYLAWS HAVE TO GO TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
UM, I HAVE A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY.
IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS, I JUST DON'T WANNA USE ALL THE TIME.
UM, I SEE THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S LANGUAGES IN TWO 15 THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S IN THE STANDARD BY LAW, YOU KNOW, BUT WE WERE GIVEN, UM, ONE OF 'EM IS, YOU KNOW, APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
HOW DOES THAT CHANGE? BECAUSE THE, THE BYLAW SAYS IT'S APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL, BUT IN TWO 15 IT IS CITY MANAGER.
YOU HIGHLIGHT WHERE IT SAYS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, COMMISSIONER HARRIS.
NUMBER SERVED THAT IT SAYS THAT THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL.
BOYS COMPOSED 11 MINUTES APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
YEAH, WE CAN, WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE.
IT DI IT DIDN'T GET CARRIED OVER INTO THIS VERSION.
IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD SEE THAT VERSION BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT? UM, WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY OFFICE AND ADOPT AND MAKE A DRAFT.
AND, UM, IF Y'ALL WANT TO RECESS WHILE I DO THAT, UM, CAN WE TABLE THIS UNTIL WE, HOW ABOUT WE VOTE ON IT AS IS AND MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS AT THE NEXT MEETING? IS THAT DOABLE? HOW DO YOU WANT, WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE THIS TO CITY MANAGER.
WE CAN CHANGE IT TO CITY MANAGER RIGHT NOW AND JUST INCLUDE THAT AS AN AMENDMENT.
UM, SORRY, I ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
SORRY TO BE SUCH A QUESTIONER, BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA KNOW, UM, SO ARTICLE SEVEN, WAS IT SUBCHAPTER L THAT WOULD BE THE CITY CLERK SHALL RETAIN AGENDAS, APPROVAL MINUTES, AND INTERNAL REVIEW REPORTS.
BYLAWS, THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT SHALL RETAIN ALL THE OTHER BOARD DOCUMENTS.
THE DOCUMENTS ARE PUBLIC RECORD UNDER, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT CODE 5 5 2 TPIA.
IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD CHANGE THAT TO, IT COULD JUST GO TO THE CLERK.
SO THE CLERK IS THE OFFICIAL RECORDS KEEPER FOR THE CITY, UM, AND THEY MAINTAIN THE OFFICIAL RECORDS.
UM, SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND CHANGING THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IS THE, UH, OFFICE OR DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY THAT LIAISONS FOR THIS COMMISSION.
SO ANY OTHER RECORDS WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THAT OFFICE? WELL, I JUST HAVE CONCERNS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE CPRC AS BEST I UNDERSTAND IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHAT INDEPENDENT, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE, INDEPENDENT TO A DEGREE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO EVALUATING THE OPO ON SOME LEVEL.
AND, AND I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE CPRC AND THE OPO AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I WANT THEM TO KEEP THEIR INDEPENDENCE AS WELL.
SO I JUST HAVE, I HATE TO STALL IT FOR SO LONG ON THE VOTE.
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I DO SEE ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT VERSION.UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE HAVE THE, THE CITY MANAGER CHANGE AMENDMENT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT TOO HARD, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS AS WELL THAT, YEAH.
SO I GUESS I'M JUST GONNA YIELD AND LET LET YOU GUYS VOTE ON IT.
UM, YEAH, I HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND.
AND I'M ASSUMING OTHER COMMISSIONERS MIGHT HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS TOO.
SO WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT, THEN YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION, RECEIVE A SECOND, AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE AMENDMENT AND THEN VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
AND IF YOU, UH, WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS, I'LL ANSWER THEM TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
AND THEN I, I DO HAVE SOME SIMILAR TO, UM, COMMISSIONER HARRIS, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THIS BOARD CAN, UH, HAVE ATTENDANCE VIA A VIRTUAL VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE THAT'S NOT PROHIBITED.
UM, IF, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO, THEN UM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH YOUR LIAISON TO ARRANGE FOR THAT.
UM, I AM FAMILIAR THAT OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO ALLOW FOR COMMISSIONS TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.
UM, YOU, YOU JUST NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS, RIGHT.
ACT THAT I GOVERNS THAT THE, THE PROVISION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT IS IF YOU ARE ON A BODY THAT IS, INVOLVES THREE OR MORE COUNTIES, IS THAT THE PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THAT? CORRECT.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY SHOULD LOOK AT THIS IN MORE DETAIL BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING FOR THE A POA AND THIS IS A PIVOTAL POINT.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO, AS A COMMISSIONER, I WANT TO BE THOROUGH AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET SOMETHING SO QUICKLY AND IMMEDIATELY VOTE ON IT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SO PIVOTAL AND I JUST CAN'T, I JUST WANNA SEE THAT'S A DECISION OF THE COMMISSION, HOWEVER YOU ALL WANT TO HANDLE IT.
I, SO, UM, MAYBE A, IF A GOOD PROCESS WOULD BE, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS AND THEN WE COME BACK AND OFFER AMENDMENTS? UH, I HAVE GENERAL QUESTIONS.
UM, MY FIRST GENERAL QUESTION IS I'VE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE OF THIS FORM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO FACILITATE ANY TYPE OF MEETINGS IF WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO MEET ONCE A MONTH.
UM, AND SO HOW DO WE DO OUR WORK IN A DELIBERATE FASHION OR REVIEW ANYTHING OR BEGIN THAT PROCESS? I'M HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS BECAUSE WHAT WAS ARTICULATED TO ME INITIALLY, AND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING NOW IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
AND IT FEELS LIKE I, RIGHT NOW WE ARE EXISTING TO SATISFY WHAT THE VOTERS VOTED FOR, BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY BEING ALLOWED TO DO THE WORK.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE BEING SLOW WALK, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO BEING HAMSTRUNG IN THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING THE DELIVERABLES OR EVEN A SCHEDULE ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE ANSWERS THAT I'M LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE DONE ALL THE PREREQUISITES, BUT WHEN DO WE ACTUALLY GET TO DO THE WORK? AND I BELIEVE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID THEY WERE TRYING TO, UH, GET SOME INFORMATION AND WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO.
SO WHAT IS THAT PROCESS FOR THEM TO DO THAT? SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ARE BEING DELIBERATE ENOUGH BECAUSE AS I SAID IN THAT EMAIL, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER FLOOD, UM, THE, TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UM, CONDUCTING WORK OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING MM-HMM
UM, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, UM, REQUIRES THAT ANY DELIBERATIONS OF A QUORUM OF THE BODY, UH, TAKE PLACE IN AN OPEN MEETING.
BUT I'M NOT SAYING DELIBERATIONS.
I'M SAYING YOU, I'M SAYING COMMUNICATIONS IN GENERAL.
THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT CONSIDERS COMMUNICATIONS TO BE DELIBERATIONS.
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SO EVEN THROUGH EMAIL, WHICH IS OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS THAT THE TAXPAYERS CAN REQUEST TO FOIA, WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING.A QUORUM OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY CANNOT HAVE DELIBERATIONS OUTSIDE OF A POSTED OPEN MEETING.
COMM IS, IS THE EMAIL YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHERE IT SAID, DO DON'T REPLY ALL? YES.
SO THAT'S A COMMON PRACTICE IN GOVERNMENTAL BODIES.
YOU DON'T REPLY ALL BECAUSE THEN THAT YOU'RE CREATING A QUORUM.
IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME AN EMAIL.
JUST YOU AND I COULD COMMUNICATE VIA EMAIL, BUT YOU CAN'T, IT'S NOT A GOOD PRACTICE TO REPLY TO.
BUT WHAT IS THE LIMIT? THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE I CAN REPLY TO A QUORUM.
A QUORUM OF THIS BODY IS SIX INDIVIDUALS.
SO AS LONG AS I COMMUNICATE WITH LESS THAN SIX INDIVIDUALS, WE CAN COMMUNICATE.
WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF IS, LET'S SAY YOU COMMUNICATE WITH COMMISSIONER CORTEZ FRANCO AND THEN COMMISSIONER CORTEZ FRANCO FORWARDS THAT TO COMMISSIONER DE LA PAAZ, WHO FORWARDS IT TO COMMISSIONER EUGENE, WHO FORWARDS IT TO COMMISSIONER, THEN YOU'VE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM.
AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS, BECAUSE I WAS, UH, UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE VOLUME OF WORK WOULD BE, UH, TO A LEVEL WHERE WE MAY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WORKING BODIES, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CASES SO THAT WE CAN BE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ADJUDICATE OR DO OUR WORK, UM, WITHOUT HAVING SUCH A BACKLOG.
AND SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, HOW DO WE SET THAT UP TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, BUT ALSO TO COMMUNICATE AMONGST EACH OTHER MM-HMM
SO WE'VE PROVIDED CAN YOU MOVE THE PLEASE IN THE BYLAWS? WE HAVE PROVIDED A MECHANISM FOR THE COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH WORKING GROUPS.
WHICH ARE GROUPS SMALLER THAN A QUORUM, WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE POSTING OF AN AGENDA.
AND SO ONCE YOU'VE ADOPTED BYLAWS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, FORM WORKING GROUPS.
AND THEN AT THAT TIME, THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION.
UM, THEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET ACCESS AND START DOING THE ACTUAL WORK? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, I'M HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING IS ONCE WE ESTABLISH THESE PROCEDURES, WE VOTED ON, UM, OUR LEADERSHIP, WHEN WILL WE ACTUALLY START DOING THE WORK? YEAH.
SO TODAY'S MEETING IS TO ESTABLISH YOURSELVES MM-HMM
AND SO ONCE WE'VE ESTABLISHED YOU AS A WORKING BODY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO START YOUR WORK.
AND THEN YOU GUYS WILL SEND OUT CORRESPONDENCE ON HOW THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO GO, OR WE WILL, SIR.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE ANSWERS TO.
AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR.
UH, MAKE SURE IN FRONT WHEN, OKAY.
SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA APOLOGIZE.
THAT MEANS I'M ON, RIGHT? YEAH.
I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SELECTED THE, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO DETERMINE, UH, OUR BYLAWS.
RIGHT? AND FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER HARRIS, I WANNA SECOND THAT IN THAT THE FACT THAT, UM, THE BYLAWS WILL CLEARLY ESTABLISH WHAT WE CANNOT OR CANNOT DO.
BUT FOR MANY PEOPLE READING THIS WILL BE A, A FIRST INTRODUCTION FOR MANY CITIZENS TO WHAT IS THIS COMMISSION, UH, UH, ABOUT.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, IT IS HAVING, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX OR 10 MORE LINES UP FRONT, DETAILING A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT THE COMMISSION IS ABOUT IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID AS WE WERE, UH, UH, PREPARING FOR THIS, I LOOKED AT WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS IN AUSTIN DID.
AND TURNS OUT THAT MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW, BUT THE BYLAWS OF THEM ARE VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL IN MANY RESPECTS.
RIGHT? WHEN I LOOKED AT, FOR INSTANCE, I COMPARED IT TO THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, WHICH CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE I THINK, UM, THEY MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT TAKING TWO YEARS TO GET THIS STARTED.
AND, AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, UH, AUTHORITY THEY HAVE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN SUMMON THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO AND MAYBE OVERLAP.
AND WHAT I SAW IS BASICALLY THEY, VIRTUALLY 90% OF OF
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THEIR BYLAWS ARE IDENTICAL EXCEPT FOR THE TITLE, THE NAME, WHICH IS CLEAR, AND WHERE THE ONLY THE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE WE CAN MAKE IS MAKING SURE WE ARE ARTICLE TWO IS CLEARLY SPECIFIED.AND, AND, AND, AND LIKE COMMISSIONER HARRIS WAS SAYING, ENSURE THAT ANYBODY WHO PICKS THIS UP AND READS THIS UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS, UH, COMMISSION.
UH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ONE LAST THING IS THAT THE, THIS, UH, THE BOARD OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, THEY ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP TO GO AND REVIEW THEIR BYLAWS BECAUSE THEY CONSIDER IT TO BE ANTIQUATED AND LOW, AND WHATEVER'S BEEN SO, SO, UM, WITH THAT IN MIND, I WANNA MAKE SURE AS WE, IF WE START OUT, WE START ON THE RIGHT FOOT AND WE DETAIL AND SPEND THE TIME, THE, YOU KNOW, JUST ELECTRONS, JUST TO PUT A, A COUPLE OF LINES IN HERE TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
AND I ALREADY DRAFTED A, AN INITIAL PROPOSAL OF WHAT I THINK SHOULD BE IN THERE, BUT NEEDS, I'D LIKE THE REST OF YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S, IT'S THE SAME SPEED OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH WE'RE GONNA PUT IN HERE.
SOMETHING THAT, NO, NO ONE, NO CITIZEN OF AUSTIN READING THIS WOULD HAVE A DOUBT WHAT THE DUTIES AND PURPOSE AND AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS COMMISSION ARE.
IF, UH, WELL, IF I CAN GET A SECOND, I'LL MOTION TO TABLE THIS AND WE CAN COME BACK TO IT WHEN WE HAVE MORE, OR, YOU KNOW, OR WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
I MEAN, THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR ARE THE ONES THAT, WELL, WE HAVE THREE HOURS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY JUST, I MEAN, I, IF YOU WANT, I COULD JUST PASS AND SHOW YOU WHAT, WHAT I DID ESSENTIALLY, UM, WHAT I READ HERE, IT JUST, THE FACT THAT JUST MENTIONED SECTION 2 15 1, TO BE HONEST, ANYBODY PICKS IN THIS UP HAVE TO GO AND FIND SOME OTHER DOCUMENT.
GOOD PRACTICE IN MANY OF THESE THINGS TO MAKE THINGS AS, AS SELF-CONTAINED AS POSSIBLE.
IT MEANS IT'S ADDING FIVE OR SIX MORE LINES SO YOU KNOW WHAT TWO 15 DASH ONE IS.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK SECTION TWO 15 DASH FOUR OF THE CITY CODE FURTHER DEFINES THE DUTIES OF THE COM OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION BOARD.
AND I THINK THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CLEARLY IS STATED IN OUR ARTICLE TWO PURPOSE AND DUTIES.
I MEAN, THE, I'M SEEING A LOT OF STUFF IN THE A PO, WELL, I SAY THE A POA, WHAT I I'M TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, CITY CODE TWO 15.
YOU KNOW, AS IT REGARDS TO THE CPRC, AND I'M SEEING A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE THAT IS NOT YOU, IS A COPY IF YOU NEEDED.
AND I'M SEEING A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE THAT'S NOT IN THE BYLAWS, AND THAT'S MORE OR LESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M SEEING THE BYLAWS AND IT SEEMS KIND OF NOT REFLECTIVE OF CITY CODE TWO 15 WITH REGARDS TO THE CPRC.
ACTUALLY, MR. HARRIS, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA IF WE COPIED THIS AND PASSED IT OUT TO EVERYBODY, UH, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.
CAN WE GET COPIES OF THIS, RYAN, WHAT CARLOS JUST WROTE, WROTE, AND JUST SHARE WITH EVERYBODY.
AND THEN, UH, LET'S, LET'S CIRCLE BACK TO THIS AND KEEP MOVING DOWN.
AND IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, WE'LL TABLE THIS FOR THE MOMENT AND THEN COME BACK TO IT.
TABLE, JUST TABLE ADDING THIS.
TWOS, WELL, HE HAD SECTION TWO, ONE MADE A MOTION YET, UH, TO AMEND IT.
SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING IN THE TABLE YET.
I SECOND END OF THE MOTION AND I GUESS WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
AND SO, IS ANYBODY SECONDED? COMMISSIONERS? I SECOND.
UM, IF I MAY, UM, I THINK OUR, OUR GOAL FOR YOU TODAY IS TO ESTABLISH YOURSELF AS A COMMISSION, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN BEGIN, UH, WORKING ON THE TASKS THAT THE VOTERS HAVE, UM, LAID UPON YOUR DESK.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN FRONT OF YOU IN TERMS OF THE BYLAWS, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT, UM, YOU ESTABLISH THESE BYLAWS SO THAT WE CAN GET YOU WORKING AS A COMMISSION.
AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE BYLAWS, THEN ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU ARE BRINGING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT THOSE, WE CAN PRESENT A DRAFT IN THE BACKUP FOR, UM, YOUR NEXT MEETING OR WHENEVER YOU WISH TO AMEND THE BYLAWS.
UM, IF WE PASS THIS, OH, AS IT IS WITH THE AMENDMENTS WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, AND IT GOES TO, I FORGET WHAT THE BOARD IS THAT APPROVES IT, DOES IT GET APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD AND THAT CHANGES TWO 15? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? NO.
SO CHAPTER TWO 15 OF CITY CODE
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IS, CANNOT BE, UM, WILL NOT BE CHANGED BY COUNCIL.UH, THERE ARE SPECIFIC RULES THAT ARE IN PLACE UNDER THE CHARTER FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT ACT BECAUSE IT WAS A VOTER APPROVED INITIATIVE.
WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY IS ESTABLISHING AN AGREEMENT AMONG YOURSELVES ABOUT HOW YOU WILL OPERATE AS A COMMISSION.
UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, GRADES, UM, BEFORE YOU ARRIVED, I HAD MENTIONED THAT, UM, THERE ARE STANDARD BYLAWS THAT EVERY BOARDING COMMISSION USES.
THESE ARE REFLECTIVE OF THOSE STANDARD BYLAWS.
ANY SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THESE BYLAWS HAVE TO GO TO A COMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL TO BE APPROVED.
AND THAT'S THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.
AND THAT'S A SMALL, IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, IT'S A SMALLER GROUP OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND SO IF YOU MAKE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THESE, THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THAT COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL.
UM, BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY IS JUST GET YOU FORMED AS A COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN START MOVING FORWARD ON SOME OF THIS WORK.
THERE ARE OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT MAKE CHANGES TO THEIR BYLAWS, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO DO.
WE WANT TO DO THAT IN A TRANSPARENT WAY FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND SO BRINGING, ESTABLISHING A WORKING GROUP THAT MAKES THOROUGH RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT WE CAN THEN POST AS BACKUP TO A MEETING AGENDA, WE'LL GIVE THE PUBLIC NOTICE OF WHAT IT IS YOU'RE PROPOSING.
HAS THE PUBLIC SEEN THESE BYLAWS YET? I BELIEVE THESE ARE POSTED AS BACKUP.
ARE THEY NOT? NO, THEY'RE NOT.
YEAH, THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN POSTED ON THERE, BUT I DO HAVE COPIES THAT I CAN PROVIDE AFTER THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT IF, IF I MAY
AND I CAME HERE PREPARED THINKING THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING WAS PRECISELY TO GO OVER ALL THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE IN RED IN THIS BYLAWS.
AND, AND BEFORE WE LEFT HERE, WE WOULD HAVE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED THAT.
AND SO I CAME PREPARED FOR THAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT MORE APPROVAL, WHAT APPROVAL THERE IS.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D SAY I STRONGLY OBJECT TO WHAT'S THERE PURPOSELY, PARTLY BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS WEAK IS IS A WEAK TERM TO USE, YOU KNOW, VAGUE.
AND IT'S, IS OMNI VAGUE, BARELY MENTIONS THE, THE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, TWO, TWO POINT 14.4, WHICH I CONSIDER IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN THERE.
SO, UM, I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD, WOULD, THE FEW THINGS WE HAD ON THE AGENDA TO DO TODAY, ONE OF THEM WAS TO DECIDE ON WHAT LANGUAGE TO PUT ON THERE.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY ONE OF MY OBJECT, MY, UH, EXPECTATIONS TO WALK OUT HERE CLEARLY KNOWING THAT THE COMMISSION THAT I SIGNED UP TO TO BE ON HAS BEEN CLEARLY DEFINED.
AND WHAT'S ON HERE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT SATISFY THAT BY, BY THE WAY, I, I, I SEEM TO, I GUESS, ASSUME THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THIS ALREADY HAS BEEN APPROVED.
AND I THOUGHT, HOW CAN THAT BE RIGHT? THAT SOMEBODY JUST WROTE YOU TOOK THE STANDARD THING, GREAT.
CHANGE A FEW THINGS IN ARTICLE ONE, THE NAME PERFECT.
ARTICLE TWO IS BASICALLY ALL WE HAVE TO DO HERE IS DECIDE WHAT TO PUT IN THERE.
AND THOSE TWO LINES THAT ARE THERE ARE NOT SUFFICIENT.
AND I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO STRONGLY FEELS THAT WAY.
AND I JUST WANT TO THINK WHAT'S, WHAT'S, WHAT'S TO STOP US FROM ALL SIX OR SEVEN HOURS THAT ARE HERE TODAY READING THIS AND DECIDING WE HAVE THE QUORUM THAT YEAH, AND, AND YOU, AND YOU, WHEN YOU READ WHAT I HAVE HERE, ESSENTIALLY I PRETTY MUCH COPIED THE STATUTE.
INSTEAD OF SAYING REFERENCE TWO 15, LET'S WRITE WHAT TWO 15 SAYS.
IS THERE, AND LIKE I SAID, AS A CITIZEN, SAVE ME TIME.
I WANNA SEE WHAT DOES THIS COMMISSION DO.
NOT JUST HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIND TWO 15 OR TWO 14 OR WHATEVER.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF ROBERT'S RULE OF ENGAGEMENT IF I CAN START TALKING OR DO I HAVE TO ASK TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED.
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZ MAY BE ACKNOWLEDGED.
UM, I, I HEAR, I HEAR YOUR CONCERN.
I, I AGREE WITH, I THINK YOU BRING UP A VERY GOOD POINT THAT, UM, IN THE ESSENCE OF TRANSPARENCY AND OF ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC, IT, UM, IT WOULD BE, UM, UH, AN IMPROVEMENT TO HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DEFINED FOR
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SOMEONE THAT ISN'T UP TO, NOT UP TO SPEED ON ALL THE CODES.UM, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO READ THAT IN A LITTLE MORE PLAIN LANGUAGE.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE POINT THAT YOU HAVE MADE, UM, THAT I, I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS COMMISSION, I, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PURSUE, BUT I, I AM LEANING TOWARDS HIS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WORK ON FORMING OUR COMMISSION, AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE A PRIORITY.
LEMME, LEMME MAKE A SUGGESTION, WHY DON'T WE ADD A HYPERLINK ON ARTICLE TWO TO EXACTLY WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
SO IT'S ON THERE AND WHEN IT'S PRINTED, UH, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE IT ONLINE CAN HIT THE HYPERLINK AND OPENS UP RIGHT TO THE, THE, UH, DOCUMENT IF THE LEGAL TERMS. THAT WAY IT SATISFIES BOTH THINGS, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO FOCUS ON OUR WORK GROUP.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF I MAY BE RECOGNIZED? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE I, I HAD THE SAME EXACT CONCERNS AS COMMISSIONER GRAVES AND, UH, WAS PREPARED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS HERE TODAY.
BUT I THINK A BETTER PROCESS IS THE PROCESS THAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED, AND ALSO I DON'T SEE WHAT WAS PRESENTED AS A CEILING OR A LIMITATION, BUT A SPRINGBOARD FOR US TO BEGIN WITH AND THEN MAKE IT OUR OWN DOCUMENT.
SO I WOULD, I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING IT AS IS TODAY, FORMING A WORK READING GROUP TO COME UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, GATHER INPUT FROM EVERYBODY ON THEIR AMENDMENTS AND THEN COME BACK AND AMEND IT, UM, AT A FUTURE MEETING.
IT'S THIS, IT'S, WE GET TO THE SAME OBJECTIVE.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT PROCESS, PERMISSION TO BE RECOGNIZED.
UH, YES, I AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT YOU MADE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE ATTORNEY, WE ESTABLISHED IT TODAY, WE'RE OPERATING UNDER THE RULES AS IS AS OF TODAY, UNTIL THOSE CHANGES ARE MADE AND THEN PASS THROUGH COUNSEL.
RIGHT? WHEN YOU ADOPT THESE BYLAWS, IF YOU ADOPT THESE BYLAWS TODAY, THEY WILL BE THE BYLAWS OF THE COMMISSION AND UNTIL YOU MAKE ANY, ANY CHANGES.
AND THEN ONCE WE MAKE THOSE CHANGES, THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNCIL AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
AND WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT? UH, I'M NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT HAS ME AT A CROSSROADS, BECAUSE I'M OKAY WITH ADOPTING IT AS IS.
BUT IF WE DO THE PROCESS, CREATE THE BOARD, UM, THE WORKING GROUP AND PRESENT IT AT OUR NETS MEETING, WE SUBMIT IT, VOTE ON IT, SUBMIT IT, AND IT GOES TO COUNCIL AND WE DON'T SEE IT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, WE REALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF IT IS THAT MUCH OF A DELAY, IF WE DON'T HAVE A, SO I WOULD RATHER VOTE ON THE WAY THAT WE WANTED THE FIRST TIME AND GET IT RIGHT, AS OPPOSED TO VOTING ON SOMETHING TO GET THIS PROCESS STARTED, BUT STILL OPERATING ON THE RULES OR REGULATIONS THAT WE DON'T FEEL ARE SUITABLE FOR THE COMMITTEE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
UM, IF YOU, IF YOU MAKE CHANGES, CODE REQUIRES THAT IF YOU MAKE CHANGES TO THE STANDARD BYLAWS, THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
SO WHETHER YOU MAKE THOSE CHANGES TODAY OR SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, THEY REGARDLESS HAVE TO GO TO THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.
AND MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS CAN YOU DESCRIBE TO ME AFTER VOTE ON THIS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M MISSING, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? WHAT DO WE DO TO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK? WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT? BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART THAT IS NOT BEING COMMUNICATED TO ME OR THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND SO HOW DO WE INTENTIONALLY, TRANSPARENTLY AND DELIBERATELY START DOING OUR WORK ONCE WE APPROVE ON THIS? ARE WE THEN GIVEN LAPTOP? ARE WE, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
YOU, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT LAPTOPS.
YOU WILL BE PROVIDED, LAPTOPS, YOU WILL BE ESTABLISHING YOUR AGENDA IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS THAT YOU, THE WORK THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
SO IN OUR NEXT, IN YOUR NEXT MEETING, YOU WILL IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE AGENDA ITEMS WILL LOOK LIKE
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IN TERMS OF THE WORK.SO, SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A REQUEST FOR, UM, ANY TYPE OF, UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO REVIEW SOMETHING, YOU CAN ASK FOR A REVIEW, UH, FROM THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT FROM THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU WILL DETERMINE WHAT THOSE AGENDA ITEMS WILL LOOK LIKE.
SO HOW WILL WE KNOW WHAT TO REQUEST? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT INFORMATION WOULD COME TO US THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OPO, JUST AS YOU GUYS, UM, WORK WITH THE, UH, INTERNAL POLICE REVIEW AGENCY AT THE SAME TIME.
SO ALL THREE OF US WOULD BE GETTING THE SAME FILES AT THE SAME TIME.
SO LET ME RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE OVERSIGHT APP MM-HMM
WHICH GUIDES YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT THE WORK LOOKS LIKE, AND WOULD HELP YOU IDENTIFY WHAT YOU WOULD BE REQUESTING IN TERMS OF AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE HAVE TO REQUEST WHAT WE WANT TO REVIEW YOU.
IT'S, IT'S YOUR, YOU ARE THE COMMISSION AND YOU'LL MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON YOUR AGENDA.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION.
SO HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK AS FAR AS, LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO REVIEW A CASE, A PARTICULAR CASE, UM, WE WOULD ENSURE THAT YOU HAD ALL THE MATERIALS THAT YOU NEEDED IN ORDER TO REVIEW THAT CASE, THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND THE, AND A PD INTERNAL AFFAIRS, REGARDLESS, WHATEVER CASE THAT IS, WE WOULD ENSURE THAT YOU HAD WHATEVER IT WAS THAT YOU NEEDED TO REVIEW THAT CASE TO MAKE WHATEVER DETERMINATIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ARE WANTING TO MAKE.
BUT HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT CASE? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
LIKE, HOW CAN I ASK FOR SOMETHING IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ASK FOR? YEAH, WELL, THE, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, IF THERE'S A CASE THAT THEY WANNA BRING BEFORE YOU, THEY'LL, THEY'LL DO THAT.
UM, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED A CASE.
UM, THIS IS YOUR FIRST MEETING.
UH, THE GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH THE COMMISSION.
AND ONCE THE COMMISSION IS TO ESTABLISHED AS A, AS A BOARD, THEN WE'LL START TO HAVE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOU IN TERMS OF CASES THAT YOU WANNA REVIEW.
THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC BRING TO YOU THAT THEY WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE LOOKING AT.
YOU WOULD MAKE THOSE PART OF YOUR, UM, AGENDA ITEMS AS YOU GET COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, AND THEN WE WOULD ENSURE AS THE LIAISON OF THIS COMMISSION, THAT YOU ARE PROVIDED ALL THE MATERIALS THAT YOU NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO DO THE WORK.
I THINK THAT'S THE PART OF THE PROCESS.
SO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC TO ASK ME TO FIND A CASE.
SO HOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
HOW, HOW DO I KNOW WHAT CASES? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S HOW THE PROCESS GONNA LOOK.
COMMISSIONER, CAN WE COME BACK TO THE BYLAWS? YEAH, SURE.
CAN I BE RECOGNIZED TO MAKE A MOTION? I CHAIR RECOGNIZES THERE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE BYLAWS AS IS, UM, SUBJECT TO FORMING A WORKING GROUP OF THREE TO SIX MEMBERS TO REVIEW, UM, TO REVIEW AMENDMENTS.
UH, COMMISSIONER RUS, UH, SECOND DISCUSSION.
WE'RE GONNA BE WHERE WE START AGAIN.
UM, BEAR IN MIND THAT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IT'S BEEN OVER TWO YEARS SINCE IT STARTED, THERE IS A CLEAR, UH, VIEW ABOUT IT'S TAKEN LONGER THAN IT SHOULD.
I THINK IT'S, TO ME, PER PERSONALLY, IT'S, I'M ACTUALLY, UH, DISAPPOINTED THAT WITH THE URGENCY THAT WE SHOW HERE ABOUT TRYING TO ACTUALLY START DOING SOMETHING, WE CAN'T GET ARTICLE TWO PURPOSE AND DUTIES ESTABLISHED BEFORE WE LEAVE HERE WITH THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE BYLAWS, UH, TO, TO START WITH.
BECAUSE THE QUESTION, FOR INSTANCE, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU'RE ASKING.
IT STARTS OUT BY MAKING SURE THE BYLAWS ARE AS STRONG AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN WE, AND I, I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, SOMETIMES I WORK IN OTHER BOARDS IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF ASKING QUESTIONS, THAT'S CLEARLY, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THIS BOARD.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THE PROB THE PROBLEM WITH STARTING OUT WEAK.
WHICH, AND WHY? WEAK MEANING WHAT, WHAT WAS DEFINED HERE? AND ONCE AGAIN, UM, IT'S, IT'S A SAD THING THAT I CAN'T GET IN THIS MEETING FOR ALL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO AT LEAST READ THE PROPOSED, UH,
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AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES I WANT.AND I CAN'T GET THE ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT IT TO SEE THAT I'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING BUT TO, TO COPY ALMOST VERBATIM WHAT IS, UH, THE CITY CODE.
AND THAT'S ALL WE ARE ASKING TO MAKE SURE WE PUT CITY CODE ON THERE.
SO I, I, UM, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE HERE TODAY WITHOUT HAVING ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT.
LIKE AT LEAST WALK OUT WITH A DECENT ARTICLE TWO IN OUR BYLAWS, WHICH IS WHERE IT WAS, EVERYTHING STARTS WITH THE BYLAWS.
SO IF WE WERE TO DO WHAT YOU SAID, THOSE BYLAWS CORRECT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE, THE CHANGES WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AND THAT'S GOING TO DELAY THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
AM I UNDER, AM I CORRECT? IF, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE TO THE PURPOSE, PURPOSE AND DUTIES, UH, THAT IS THE, THE RED PORTIONS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE ARE THE PORTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO BE FILLED IN.
THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE STANDARD LANGUAGE.
SO WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE WITHOUT DELAYING THE PROCESS.
MAY I BE RECOGNIZE THAT GIVES ME CLARIFICATION.
I HONESTLY THINK, BASED ON EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THIS REFERENCES IT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREAVES, UH, WHAT HE WROTE KIND OF TIES IT ALL TOGETHER.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM ACCEPTING IT AS IS.
ANYBODY WANT TO SECOND THAT? IF I MAY BE RECOGNIZED? YES.
HAVE YOU HAD EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO JUST LOOK AT IT? SO, UH, I THINK BY NOW EVERYONE'S GOTTEN A CHANCE TO READ THE SUGGESTED PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
AND I AGREE WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER GRES THAT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO SET THE BYLAWS NOW, IT'S GOING TO BE TABLED OVER FOR NEXT MONTH.
AND SO WE CAN ONLY MEET, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT THIS ONE WAY IN THE MEETING.
SO IF WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT NOW, IT'S, WE'RE EVENTUALLY GONNA HAVE TO GET TO IT.
UM, WE SHOULD START ON THE RIGHT FOOT.
AND THAT'S PART OF MY DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE MOTION IS TO VOTE ON THE BYLAWS.
UM, AND IF WE NEED TO GO LINE BY LINE TODAY, WE, WE STILL HAVE TWO HOURS TO GET IT DONE SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE WITH THE WORKING BYLAWS.
I I THINK THAT IS A MORE EFFICIENT ROUTE TO TAKE RATHER THAN JUST GOING WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY I'M, I'M ASSUMING THE PUBLIC IS ALSO GONNA HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS READING THIS.
I, I GET A CHANCE TO READ THE ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE TWO, PURPOSE AND DUTIES OR, UM, LEGAL COUNSEL SAID THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN CHANGE, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A CASE THAT WE, IF WE FORM A WORKING GROUP, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION AND GET MORE INPUT AND GET EVERYONE'S INPUT.
BECAUSE I HAVE CHANGES TO ARTICLE TWO AS WELL THAT I, I WANNA PROPOSE, BUT I WANTED TO DO IT IN A MORE SYSTEMATIC FASHION THEN, YOU KNOW, UH, HIS PROPOSAL, MY PROPOSAL OR PROPOSAL TO HAVE A LINK.
WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP, WE WORK IT OUT, BRING BACK TO THIS BODY, UM, CONSISTENT COORDINATED CHANGES.
IF I MAY BE RECOGNIZED, THIS IS WHAT THIS MEETING IS FOR.
SO WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ONLINE OR INDIVIDUALLY.
WE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE BYLAWS, BREAK IT DOWN.
IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA DO THE EXACT SAME THING NEXT MEETING.
WE EITHER APPROVE 'EM AND MAYBE GET THOSE CHANGES APPROVED THROUGH ALL THE, THE HOOPS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.
OR RIGHT NOW WE GET A CHANCE TO GO LINE BY LINE.
EVERYBODY HAS SOME EDITS IN MIND.
WE HAVE THE TIME TO GO LINE BY LINE.
IF IT TAKES VOTING, COUNTING A MOTION TO EVERY LINE, EVERY SECTION APPROVED OR NOT ADDED AMENDMENTS OR NOT, I THINK THAT IS THE MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO DO.
MAY I HAVE PERMISSION, MR. RECOGNIZE? OH, OKAY.
UH, MY, UH, THE PART THAT I NEED CLARIFICATION ON IS, IS, IS, DO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT WE ARE NOT A FORMED COMMISSION UNTIL WE APPROVE THESE? ARE WE NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE APPROVE THESE? CORRECT.
YOU NEED, YOU NEED BYLAWS IN ORDER TO OPERATE AS A COMMISSION.
UH, SO MAYBE A COMPROMISE HERE.
WHAT IF WE INCLUDE, UM, SOMETHING IN HERE
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THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF SEVERABILITY CLAUSE THAT SAYS, UH, WHERE IT CONFLICTS WITH CITY CODE TWO 15, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOEL AND VOID, MORE OR LESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.UH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS THINKING OF LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT IF WE ADD SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAYS, AND IN COMMON LANGUAGE ADOPT THE PROVISIONS OF TWO 15, UH, WITH, WITH IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER IT RELATES TO THE CPRC, IF I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE IN THERE.
SO IF THERE ARE CONFLICTS WITH THE BYLAWS WITH TWO 15 IN ANY WAY, IT'S STRUCK IN TWO 15 IS WHAT WE GO BY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS VOTED ON, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
THIS IS WHY I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT I GOT FROM THIS WAS ALL THE THINGS IN RED WE CAN DECIDE ON TODAY, AND THEN WE CAN ADOPT, CHANGE, WHATEVER, AND STILL FORM A BOARD.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN ALSO ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP FOR THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN RED TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND SET IT UP THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO BE A FORMAL BOARD AND MAKE THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE HERE AND NOW WHILE ALSO BEING ABLE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC.
LET THE COUNCIL DECIDE ON IT AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD RESOLUTION IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CAPABILITY CORRECTLY.
IS THAT CORRECT, NEIL? WE CAN MAKE THE AMENDMENTS OR THE CHANGES TO EVERYTHING IN RED AND THEN DO THE WORKING GROUP, CORRECT? YES.
TO REVIEW OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT QUITE SO CLEAR? YES.
SO IS ANYBODY GONNA OFFER A MOTION TO AMEND MY MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND YOUR MOTION.
UH, I'D LIKE TO OFFER A MOTION TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS IN RED TODAY, FORM A MO FORMAL WORKING GROUP AND MAKE THE NECESSARY EDITS AND PRESENT IT TO COUNSEL AS APPROPRIATE.
UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PUT A TIMEFRAME ON THAT.
WHO'D LIKE TO BE ON THE WORKING GROUP? A SECOND.
WE GOTTA DISCUSS AND THEN VOTE.
BE RECOGNIZ AND YOU NEED TO VOTE BEFORE YOU START A WORKING RIGHT.
SO, CHAIR, YOU RESTATE THE MOTION.
YOU MAY CALL TO A VOTE, UH, EITHER YES OR HANDS.
OKAY? SO WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON ADOPTING OR MAKING CHANGES IN EVERYTHING IN RED AND THEN VOTING, UH, TO ADOPT EVERYTHING.
AND THEN, UH, CAN I GET A VOTE FOR THAT FIRST? ANYONE? UH, VOTE.
RAISE YOUR HAND TO MAKE THE CHANGES.
UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE ALL, YEAH.
AND THEN SECOND, UH, MOTION WOULD BE TO SET UP A MO A WORKING GROUP.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO, UH, VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THE MO THE WORKING GROUP? OKAY, SO MR. FLOOD AND MR. EUGENE, I THINK, AND MR. GRES.
AND THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN.
SO WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND APPROVED.
UH, ARE WE APPROVED WITH, WITH WHAT CARLOS RES HAS, HAS, UH, SUBMITTED OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THAT AS WELL? YEAH, BEFORE I HAD A QUESTION.
YOU HAD SOME THINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO CHANGE, RIGHT? I WOULD BE DYING TO HEAR WHAT CHANGES YOU WANTED TO DO.
SEE, WHAT, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS JUST INCLUDE FROM 2 15 4, UH, D UM, FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX IN THE PURPOSE.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2 15, 4 D, FOUR FIVE, AND SIX COMMISSIONERS, MAY I RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS
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PROVIDE A MORE EXPANSIVE, FULSOME, EXPANSIVE ARTICLE TWO.RIGHT? SO IF WE CAN READ INTO THE RECORD, UM, EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT IT TO SAY.
UM, SO THE WAY THAT WOULD WORK IS SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE ARTICLE TWO READ IN A SPECIFIC WAY AND READ THAT INTO THE RECORD SO THAT WE CAN THEN GO BACK AND HAVE IT ON THE RECORD SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT INCORPORATED, UH, INTO THE DOCUMENT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO READ SECTION TWO 15 AND, UH, REQUISITE SECTIONS, UH, IDENTIFIED BY DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN INTO THE RECORD.
SO WHAT WE NEED IS WHAT YOU WANT THE ACTUAL TEXT AND ARTICLE TWO TO READ AS I'LL, I'LL READ IT.
AND I YOU STILL HAVE YOURS, COMMISSIONER GRAVES? YEAH.
SO IT WOULD BE, THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD IS TO A FULFILL, FULFILL THE POLICY OF SECTION TWO 15 DASH ONE OF THE CITY CODE BY SUPPORTING A ROBUST SYSTEM OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT.
B, ADVISE THE POLICE CHIEF, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE EFFECTIVENESS AND APPROPRIATENESS OF THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES CONCERNING COMPLAINTS OF POLICE OFFICER MISCONDUCT, POLICE OFFICER TRAINING, USE OF FORCE BY POLICE OFFICERS, COMMUNITY RELATIONS, AND ANY OTHER ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT.
ADDRESS OTHER DEPARTMENT ACTIVITIES OF PUBLIC CONCERN.
D, ASSESS THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IN THIS ORDINANCE AND SUGGEST IMPROVEMENTS.
AND E EMPHASIZE TRANSPARENCY ENCOURAGES ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE OFFICER.
ACCOUNTABILITY OF OFFICER MISCONDUCT ENCOURAGES ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OFFICER MISCONDUCT AND FACILITATES ENACTMENT OF REFORMS THAT SYSTEMATICALLY REDUCE POLICE BRUTALITY AND MISCONDUCT.
WE'VE, I WILL WAIVE UNANIMOUS.
MOTION CARRIES FOR CLARIFICATION.
THIS, UM, WHAT YOU JUST READ, THAT'S FOR PAR ARTICLE TWO.
GOING IT? SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE WAY ARTICLE TWO WILL BE READ.
AND DID YOU CATCH THAT CHANGE I MADE TO THIS ONE? THAT'S GOOD.
THIS LET'S, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THAT.
AND DO WE WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD OF MR. GREEN'S PROPOSAL? IT, I, I OH, YOU ALREADY DID IN MIND.
SO CAN WE MOVE ON TO ARTICLE THREE MEMBERSHIP? AND I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE AMENDMENT APPROVED.
UH, JUST TO STATE, UH, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE CHANGED TO CITY MANAGER.
AND ARTICLE THREE A, UM, HAS THERE BEEN A, A MOTION A SECOND YES.
AND A VOTE TO CHANGE CITY COUNCIL TO CITY MANAGER? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
BUT IF, IF, LET'S DO IT AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE.
ANY, OR DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION FOR CLARIFICATION, THOUGH? THIS IS NOT GONNA CHANGE US FORM IN THE BOARD TODAY.
CHANGE, UH, UH, A THE BOARD IS COMPOSED OF 11 MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO 11 MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THE MOTION.
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WITH ONE WITHHOLD.ALRIGHT, SO MEMBER SERVES THAT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL BE.
UH, C BOARD MEMBERS SERVE FOR TERM FOUR YEARS.
SO, B, SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD ALSO BE CHANGED TO CITY MANAGER SO THAT WE CAN GET A MOTION.
MAY, MAY I BE RECOGNIZED? YES, SIR.
UH, WHAT IF WE JUST CHANGE IT TO, WELL, IT'S GONNA SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY MANAGER.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD SAY.
MORE OR LESS IF WE CHANGE THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE, WHAT IF WE JUST CHANGE IT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY? NO.
PERMISSION TO BE RECOGNIZED? YES.
MR. FLOOD? I'M LOOKING AT ARTICLE THREE C.
ARE WE OKAY WITH ARTICLE THREE C AS FAR AS THE TERM? BECAUSE, 'CAUSE I, I REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS NO TERM LIKE TERM LIMIT.
SO DO WE WANNA ESTABLISH FOUR YEARS AS THE TERM LIMIT AND LEAVE IT AS IS OR SHOULD? DO WE WANT TO DISCUSS THAT, UH, TERMS ARE PROVIDED FOR IN CITY CODE CHAPTER TWO ONE? YEAH.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE IT.
YEAH, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I WENT THROUGH, AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH EXCEPT FOR ARTICLE ONE AND TWO, ALMOST A BULLET PROOF, EXCEPT THERE'S ALSO ON ARTICLE EIGHT WHERE THERE'S COMMISSION, THERE'S COMMITTEES ARE ONLY WORKING GROUPS.
SOME OF THEM HAVE COMMITTEES, SOME OF THEM ONLY HAVE WORKING GROUPS.
CLEARLY OURS, WHEN WE GET TO THERE, WE'LL SEE IT.
BUT, BUT OTHERWISE THERE, IT'S ALMOST ALREADY BY CITY CODE.
ALMOST ALL THESE THINGS ARE SAID.
AS NEIL, CAN WE JUST, UH, MOVE TO ADOPT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S IN HERE? I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY ELSE HAS READ EVERYTHING, OR DO WE WANT TO GO LINE BY LINE? UM, WE STILL WOULD LIKE A VOTE ON ARTICLE THREE B.
I SECOND THE MOTION TO, UH, I SECOND THE MOTION TO, UH, CHANGE THE LANGUAGE OF ARTICLE THREE.
UH, ITEM B, A MEMBER SERVES AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY MANAGER.
NOW CAN WE READ, DO WE NEED TO READ THROUGH EVERY LINE OR CAN WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT OBJECTIONABLE LINE WHERE SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE THIS? I THINK, UH, ARTICLE SEVEN.
UNDER MEETINGS WE HAVE A ARTICLE SEVEN ITEM D.
THE BOARD SHALL MEET MONTHLY IS THE NEXT RED LINE.
AND I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THAT IF YOU THINK WE NEED TO.
SO I GUESS MOTION TO APPROVE EVERYTHING UP TO ARTICLE SEVEN, RIGHT? YEP.
WELL, I THOUGHT WE MOVED THAT.
WE WERE, WE WERE GOING TO AMEND ONLY THE THINGS IN RED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WE'RE DOING NOW.
AND EVERYTHING ELSE EXCEPT, AND THESE, THESE WERE NON SUBSTANTIVE THINGS, REALLY.
CITY COUNCIL, THOSE ARE REALLY NON RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING CAN WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD? YEAH.
AND ACCEPT EVERYTHING UP TO, UH, ITEM ARTICLE SEVEN.
IT ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY ACCEPTED.
RIGHT? SO CAN WE JUMP AHEAD THEN TO, UH, ITEM D OF ARTICLE SEVEN? THE BOARD SHALL MEET MONTHLY PERMISSION TO BE RECOGNIZED.
MR. FLOOD, UM, CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO AT LEAST MONTHLY, BUT AS NEEDED, CITY CODE REQUIRES YOU TO MEET AT LEAST QUARTERLY.
UM, MOST COMMISSIONS HAVE IN THEIR BYLAWS THAT THEY MEET MONTHLY.
IF THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS TO CONDUCT MONTHLY, THEN THEY JUST, UH, FORMALLY CANCELED THEIR MONTHLY MEETING.
UM, SO THE WAY WE HAVE IT DRAFTED HERE IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH FLEXIBILITY IN SCHEDULING.
WHAT ABOUT FOR, UH, VIRTUAL MEETINGS? IS THAT INCLUDED? YEAH, THIS WOULD NOT AFFECT YOUR ABILITY TO MEET VIRTUALLY.
UM, ANY SUGGESTIONS, AMENDMENTS, RECOMMENDATIONS, COMMISSIONERS? SHOULD WE KEEP IT AS MONTHLY? I THINK WE KEEP IT, SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T FORM A QUORUM, WE CAN STILL DO OUR WORK.
AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE A, IF YOU DECIDE TO FORM WORKING GROUPS RIGHT, WHICH ARE SMALLER THAN A QUORUM, THEN YOU CAN MEET, UM, AS OFTEN AS YOU LIKE.
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OKAY.ALRIGHT, MS. EUGENE? I THINK MONTHLY IS FINE.
AND THE NEXT RED LINE IS, UH, L OF THE SAME ARTICLE SEVEN.
THE NEXT RED LINE IS ARTICLE, UH, L OF ARTICLE SEVEN, UH, WHERE IT SAYS THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT SHALL RETAIN ALL OTHER BOARD DOCUMENTS.
DOCUMENTS ARE PUBLIC RECORDS UNDER T TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 5 5 2.
UH, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE THAT.
AND YOU JUST ADDED IT FOR THIS BOARD, CORRECT? OR COMMISSION, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THAT'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT, SO WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THERE.
JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT'S TO KEEP THE LANGUAGE AS IS CORRECT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY.
REMIND IT'S LETTER O AND ARTICLE SEVEN.
COULD YOU GIMME CLARIFICATION ON LETTER O? ARTICLE SEVEN? IT READS, THAT'S A, THAT'S A STANDARD TERM OF, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
IF YOU WISH TO REMOVE IT, THEN UM, YOU COULD, YOU COULD REMOVE IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS IT SAYING THAT THE PUBLIC CANNOT SPEAK AT OUR MEETINGS? NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS.
SO YOU, YOU WILL HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT TYPE OF AGENDA ITEMS AS THEY COME BEFORE YOU.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE, UH, JUST AN ITEM WHERE THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IS COMING TO YOU TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND THERE'S NO ACTION THAT'S NEEDED FROM YOU.
UM, IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STAFF TO PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION AS A GROUP, UM, SO THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH OPEN MEETINGS REQUIREMENTS.
AND THAT'S, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT THAT ADDRESSES.
UH, SO LET'S, LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO, UH, ARTICLE EIGHT COMMITTEES, SUB UH, AND WORKING GROUPS.
UH, CARLOS AND I, AND I BELIEVE A COUPLE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS.
UH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T CLEARLY STATE IT, UH, BUT UNDER WORKING GROUPS, UH, ITEM A, THE BOARD CAN DETERMINE SIZE OF WORKING GROUP, BUT THE NUMBER OF BOARD ME MEMBERS SERVING ON, ON THE WORKING GROUP MUST BE LESS THAN THE QUORUM, WHICH IS SIX.
SO WE SHOULD WE, UH, I JUST ASSUME TWO TO FIVE MAXIMUM MM-HMM
UM, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO MAKE AN ADDENDUM FOR THAT.
UH, WHAT QUESTIONS DO, LEMME I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, I NOTICED AS I WAS GOING THROUGH MULTIPLE OTHER COMMITTEES, UM, SOME OF THEM HAD A COMMITTEE, UM, AND OTHERS ONLY HAD WORKING GROUPS.
RIGHT? AND I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM REQUIRES YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A QUORUM SO THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE OPEN LAWS RULES.
BUT COULD YOU, UH, EXPLAIN TO US WHY IT WAS DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD NOT MESS WITH COMMITTEES AND WE SHOULD JUST HAVE WORKING GROUPS? I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, IF YOU WANT TO MEET IN GROUPS SMALLER THAN THE FULL COMMISSION, THAT YOU DO IT AS WORKING GROUPS.
BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES YOU WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY.
UM, AND THERE ARE FEWER LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO, UH, MEET AND, AND TAKE ACTION.
MS. FLOOD, UH, UNDER WORKING GROUPS, LETTER D, STAFF SUPPORT WILL NOT BE PROVIDED FOR WORKING GROUPS.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF WE HAVE VIDEO FOOTAGE WE NEED TO REVIEW OR ANYTHING ELSE, IS THAT SAYING WE WILL NOT BE PROVIDED THAT OPPORTUNITY UN UNLESS WE ARE OUR FULL QUORUM? IT DOES NOT.
UM, THIS, IF, IF, IF THERE IS MATERIAL THAT YOU ARE REVIEWING AS YOUR SUPPORT TEAM, WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT MATERIAL.
WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE SUPPORT AND THE MATERIAL YOU NEEDED DURING THAT WORKING GROUP MEETING.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT READS, RIGHT?
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BECAUSE IT SAYS IT WILL NOT NO, NO STAFF.WHAT THAT GENERALLY REFERS TO IS, UM, THE PROCESS OF ORGANIZING YOU.
SO THEY WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO DO YOUR WORK.
BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE SCHEDULING YOUR MEETINGS AND, UH, DOING THAT KIND OF WORK, UM, OKAY, SO THE MATERIALS WILL BE AVAILABLE, JUST NOT MATERIALS.
THE MATERIALS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO YOU UNDER CITY CODE? YES.
CITY CODE REQUIRES THAT WE PROVIDE YOU WITH THE MATERIALS.
AND WILL YOU AS THE LAWYER BE AVAILABLE FOR A WORKING GROUP? UM, PROBABLY NOT UNLESS THERE IS SOME LEGAL ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
PERMISSION TO BE RECOGNIZED? YES.
AND IN THE WORKING GROUP, I WOULD WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FURTHER, UH, GOING FORWARD AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
UH, SO FOR INSTANCE, ARTICLE SEVEN G WITH A QUORUM, UM, IF A QUORUM FOR A MEETING DOES NOT CONVENE WITHIN ONE HALF HOUR OF POST MEETING, TIMES MEETING MAY NOT BE HELD.
H TO BE EFFECTIVE, A BOARD ACTION MUST BE ADOPTED BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE A QUORUM.
SO THAT MAY, THAT MAY, THAT MEANS NO MATTER WHO'S IN ATTENDANCE OR HOW MANY WE HAVE, WE AT LEAST SIX HAVE TO VOTE.
SO LET'S SAY, UM, A QUORUM OF THIS BODY IS SIX MEMBERS, RIGHT? SO YOU NEED SIX MEMBERS EVEN TO JUST CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
SO IF YOU HAVE SIX MEMBERS WHO SHOW UP, YOU CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND YOU DON'T GET ANY MORE MEMBERS, YOU STILL NEED SIX, SIX VOTES IN ORDER TO TAKE ACTION ON AN ITEM, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND I WOULD JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT IT WAS SIX, IT WOULD BE SIX VOTES, WHETHER THAT'S CORRECT.
EIGHT PEOPLE ARE THERE, OR SIX PEOPLE.
MR. GRIEVES, ONE SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT, BY THE WAY, GOING BACK TO THE WORKING GROUP, IF YOU ARE IN A WORKING GROUP AND YOU RECOGNIZE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED STAFF, THEN THAT MEANS THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE BRINGING UP TO THE, THE, TO THE BIGGER, UH, GROUP.
AND THEN WE, WE RESOLVE IT THERE.
THAT COULD BE A WORK AROUND IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WISH I HAD SOME STAFF, SOMETHING THEN MEANS IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY ON THE WORKING GROUP.
JUST BRING IT UP TO, TO THE, THE FULL, THE FULL, UH, TEAM.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, FOR NEIL.
UH, IF WE'RE GOING, CAN WE DO WORKING GROUPS ON MS TEAMS OR ZOOM SO WE CAN HAVE EVERYBODY TOGETHER? DOES THAT MATTER FOR THE WORKING GROUPS? YOU CAN CONDUCT THEM HOWEVER YOU WISH TO CONDUCT THEM.
OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE.
ALRIGHT, NOW I, I SORRY, I WOULD ADD THAT IF YOU'RE FORMING A WORKING GROUP TO REVIEW A CASE, THERE MIGHT BE SOME, UH, TECHNICAL LIMITATIONS.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD THE TECHNICAL LIMITATIONS BE IF IT'S, UH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS REPORTS AND WHATNOT.
LIKE, JUST IN TERMS OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE MATERIALS.
SO HOW DO WE DO THAT THEN? IF WE ARE DOING THIS ON A WORK, A WORKING GROUP? WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
MR. FLOOD, I'M GONNA GO WAY BACK TO ARTICLE 3G AND IT'S BECAUSE WE HAD SOME RESIGNATIONS ALREADY.
AND SO SINCE WE HAVE HAD RESIGNATIONS DO, IS CITY COUNCIL GOING TO BACKFILL THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 3G? AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NO PLAN TO BACKFILL THAT, THAT ONE POSITION.
UH, YOU STILL HAVE A WORKING GROUP AND STILL CAN MAKE QUORUM.
SO AT THIS TIME THERE'S NO, NO, UM, PLANS TO REFILL THAT POSITION.
SO IF WE LOSE ANOTHER, WILL YOU REVISIT THAT OR HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? I JUST DON'T WANT US TO ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL RE REVISIT.
CAN WE, UH, CAN WE DIRECT THAT OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT YOU CAN HAVE 11 PERSONS ON A BOARD.
UM, WE WOULD HAVE, AS A, AS A OFFICE, WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN, THAT WE INITIALLY WENT THROUGH, THAT YOU ALL WENT THROUGH, UH, TO FILL THAT POSITION.
UH, BASED ON THAT, DO WE NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE BOARD? IS, UH, FOR ARTICLE THREE A THEN SINCE THE BOARD IS COMPOSED OF 11 MEMBERS AND WHERE IT'S ONLY 10? OR SHOULD WE LEAVE IT AS 11? LEAVE IT AS 11 TO KEEP THE FLEXIBILITY.
WE BE, YEAH, WE SHOULD BE BACK THERE.
YEAH, WE SHOULD LEAVE IT AT 11.
'CAUSE 11 IS WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
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WE SHOULD LEAVE IT.THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST MAKING SURE WE COVERED IT.
SO, SO, SO THE CODE DOES SAYS 11.
SO WE COULD GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE MANAGER WOULD NEED TO APPOINT, UH, AN 11TH PERSON TO THE COMMISSION.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
SO I, I, BECAUSE UM, INITIALLY WE HAD THE 11 PLUS TWO EXTRA FOUR.
SO, SO IF WE, IF WE WANTED TO, WE COULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO GO AHEAD AND APPOINT ANOTHER PERSON.
COULD WE DO THAT? YEAH, YOU COULD DO THAT.
I, I GUESS I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.
I THOUGHT THAT ORIGINALLY THERE WERE 11 AND THERE ARE FOUR ALTER ALTERNATES AND WE LOST A FEW.
I THOUGHT THERE MAY STILL BE ONE EXTRA ALTERNATE, RIGHT? OR WE, NO, SO, SO AT PRESENT, THERE ARE ONLY 10 OF US.
AND NO ALTERNATIVES, NO ALTERNATES.
THAT, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.
I THOUGHT THAT, I THOUGHT THAT G WOULD KICK IN BY DEFAULT BECAUSE THEY SUBMITTED THEIR RESIGNATION AND THEN THERE'S A 30 DAY PERIOD THAT TAKES PLACE AND THEN THAT THE COUNSEL SHOULD APPOINT A NEW PERSON.
THE, THE CITY MANAGER WOULD A, WOULD APPOINT A RIGHT.
I KEEP GETTING MANAGER AND COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S STILL ON THE, BUT YEAH.
BUT, SO THAT'S, THAT SHOULD BE THE STEP THAT WE SHOULD GO INTO NEXT, RIGHT? IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD IF, IF YOU CHOOSE TO.
SO HOW DO WE MAKE THAT DECISION? WE'D HAVE TO, WE'D HAVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION INVITING OR ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPOINT.
SO IS OUR BOARD, WELL, AS SOON AS THE BOARD'S FORMED, CAN WE DO THAT? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU FILE A MOTION THAT'S WELL, YEAH, BUT THE BOARD'S NOT FORMED.
'CAUSE WE'RE STILL REVIEWING THE DOCUMENT.
SO AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT MOTION.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA PASS A RESOLUTION, YOU CAN, BUT THE CITY MANAGER COULD, UH, COULD, YOU KNOW, UH, APPOINT A, A 11TH PERSON TO THE BOARD IDEA TO DO THAT.
ALRIGHT, LET'S FINISH THIS THEN.
LET'S GO BACK AND WE WILL, UH, MAKE THAT MOTION.
UH, LET ARTICLE 10 MEN OF BYLAWS, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON HERE IS THE, UH, MONTH DATE AND YEAR, WHICH IS TODAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND FILL ALL THAT IN.
IF, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DONE MAKING AMENDMENTS, THEN WE JUST NEED A MOTION.
SECOND AND VOTE TO ADOPT THE BYLAWS AS AMENDED.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE MOTION RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT? MR. EUGENE? SO MOVED, ADOPTED, UH, BYLAWS AS AMENDED.
AND IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO, UH, KICK IN, UH, FOR, UH, ARTICLE 3G TWO, IF I MAY.
SO WE CAN'T TAKE THAT OUT IF, IF I MIGHT.
IT POSTED ON, POSTED THE AGENDA, SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT ON THAT.
IF, IF YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE, UH, NEXT AGENDA, STAFF CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.
CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE NEXT, BRIAN? THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION OF PROCEDURE.
SO, UH, HOW DOES THE DOCUMENT GET OFFICIALLY EDITED OR SOMEONE STAFF IT WILL GO AND ADD THE AMENDMENTS? WE DID AND DO THAT? YES.
ALRIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT ON OUR AGENDA? C TO BE LOST HERE? I THINK IT'S ADOPTING A SCHEDULE.
[3. Discussion and approval of the CPRC meeting schedule for the remainder of the year.]
ITEM IN THE PROPOSED MEETING SCHEDULE IS FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2025.AND SO IN YOUR PACKETS, YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO SCHEDULES.
WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING DATES ON HOLD.
UM, BOTH, WE HAVE ONE MEETING LOCATION, WHICH IS GONNA BE HERE AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
WELL, THE AUSTIN CITY HALL HERE IN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ROOM.
AND THEN OUR OTHER MEETING LOCATION THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE GOING NORTHWEST OFF OF WHERE THE HIGHLAND MALL AREA IS AT.
SO THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROPOSALS? THESE ARE TWO SCHEDULES? YES.
SO WE EITHER TECH DO ONE AND MM-HMM
AND IS SCHEDULE AND LOCATION MM-HMM
AND THE TIME DIFFERENCE AS WELL? MAY, MAY WE RECOGNIZE? YEAH.
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THE LOCATION, UM, I LIVE NORTH.UM, SO I MOTION THAT WE, UH, ESTABLISH A LOCATION AT THE NORTHWEST LOCATION NEAR HIGHLAND MALL.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR? DO WE HAVE THE VOTE? WE ASK QUESTION FIRST.
MY QUESTION IS, CAN WE ADOPT THE MEETING LOCATION, BUT KEEP THE TIME FOR ANOTHER LOCATION? LIKE, COULD WE DO A START TIME AT 3:00 PM AT THE HIGHLAND MALL LOCATION? IS THAT FEASIBLE OR DO WE HAVE TO START AT 12? I MEANT ONE O'CLOCK.
SO WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH, UH, THE ASSISTANT, THEY ARE ONLY AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME AND DATE, 1230 TO 1:00 PM THESE ARE THE ESTABLISHED DATES AND TIMES.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE INTERCHANGEABLE.
THAT'S WHY THESE ARE ESTABLISHED DATES BEFORE I VOTED, SO, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
I'M, NOW, I'M UNCLEAR WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DECIDING ARE, DO I HAVE A CHOICE OF THIS OR THIS? YES.
ALRIGHT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, ESTABLISHED THAT AND WE'VE HAD A MOTION.
AND SECOND IT, UH, ANY ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? THREE.
WHAT ABOUT YOU, MR. LEBA? ALL RIGHT.
DON'T HAVE A MAJORITY? MM-HMM.
SO STILL VOTE ON THE OTHER LOCATION TOO, RIGHT? YEP.
SO WHO WANTS TO VOTE AT TWO 30 OR FOR THE, UH, MEETINGS HERE AT CITY HALL? I MOVE TO ADOPT THE SCHEDULE MEETING AT CITY HALL AT TWO 30 ON FRIDAY.
ALL IN FAVOR? YOU FLIP FLOP? NO, THIS SPEAKS TO WHY WE NEED 11 PEOPLE.
ARE THERE ANY, RYAN, IS THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE AS FAR AS TIMES FOR THE, UH, THE NORTHWEST? HOW, HOW? LEMME ASK A QUESTION.
HOW MANY FOR ALL THE, THE COMMISSIONERS.
WHICH, WHICH LOCATION'S EASIER TO GET TO? JUST NORTH.
NEITHER OF THESE LOCATIONS IS CONVENIENT TO ME.
SO CAN I ASK RYAN, UH, IS THERE A PARKING SITUATION AT THE OTHER LOCATION? YES.
THEY HAVE A GARAGE, AND IT'S FREE PARKING FOR THE COMMISSIONERS FOR CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY WHO ATTENDS.
THAT MAY BE RECOGNIZED, BUT GO.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN TO THE, THE ALTERNATIVE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN PERMITTING DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
IT'S A PRETTY OPEN PARKING SPACE.
THAT'S WHY I ORIGINALLY VOTED FOR THIS LOCATION.
I KNOW THAT DAYS ARE KIND OF FUNKY.
UM, AGAIN, AS, AS LONG AS SIX OF US MEET, WE'RE A QUORUM.
SO WE DON'T ALL HAVE TO BE PRESENT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION OF GOING ONLINE, VIRTUALLY MEETING, UM, I'VE BEEN TO VOTE LOCATIONS.
I THINK THE NORTH LOCATION IS MORE OPEN SPACING.
IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE HIGHLAND CAMPUS.
UH, SO THERE'S TONS OF PARKING COMPARED TO THIS PARKING GARAGE, WHICH IS STILL ACCESSIBLE.
UH, WHICH IS WHY I VOTED FOR THIS ONE.
THAT'S JUST MY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER INPUT OR DISCUSSIONS REGARDING ANY OF THE LOCATIONS PERMISSION TO BE RECOGNIZED.
MR. FLOOD, SINCE I'M NOT A COM, UH, ONE OF THE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT, UH, ARE ACTUALLY LEADING THIS, AND I CAN WORK VIRTUALLY, I'M OPEN TO ANY LOCATION ANYWHERE.
COMMISSIONER, YOU RECOGNIZE MS. PETERS.
UM, I, UM, WHILE I, WHILE I WOULD PREFER THAT WE MEET NORTHWEST, UM, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND I WILL GO WHEREVER YOU WANT ME TO GO.
SO IF, IF CITY HALL IS WHERE THE MAJORITY IS, I'LL PROBABLY FLIP FLOP.
SO WHAT, UM, WHAT'S THE RULES OF BRINGING YOU BACK A MOTION THAT'S BEEN HERE? QUESTION.
ARE WE STILL IN DISCUSSION? I GUESS I WANTED TO ADD A FEW THINGS THEN IF WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION.
BECAUSE I, THE, THE, THE ISSUE NOT IS NOT ONLY LOCATION, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND I, AND JUST MAKE, MAKE THINGS ARGUMENT CLEAR.
I WOULD'VE HAPPILY GO NORTH, BUT ONE O'CLOCK I PREFER THREE O'CLOCK.
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SO I WONDER IF ANYBODY ELSE IS MORE TIED TO THE TIME THAN THE LOCATION.AND THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO LOOK FOR CONSENSUS, SEE IF WE CAN GET A MAJORITY HERE.
UH, I WAS WONDERING, UH, THE, DO MOST OF YOU PREFER ONE O'CLOCK? IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, NO.
MY, I, I, I, I, THE LOCATION WAS MORE OF THE DRAW FOR ME.
I'M, I'M IN BETWEEN EMPLOYMENT, SO I CAN GO ANYWHERE YOU AT, DO ANY TIME THAT YOU NEED.
I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT TO BRING CONSENSUS HERE.
'CAUSE IT WAS MORE THE TIME FOR ME AND THE CONSISTENCY OF, OF DATES.
SO I KNOW IT'S EVERY LOOKS LIKE THIRD FRIDAY.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS.
AND THE TIME IS WHAT, WHAT, ANYWAY, SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE THAT IN MIND.
WE CAN, WE HAVE TO GO TO A AND MAYBE A SECOND PASS OF VOTING, ONE OR THE OTHER.
BUT, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT SINCE IT'S VIRTUAL, IT'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE IT, BECAUSE I KNOW ONE OF YOU TWO HAVE TO BE HERE.
SO IT, SHE SAYS IT'S EASIER FOR HER THERE, UH, IS, WHICH ONE'S EASIER FOR YOU? THEY'RE COMING.
IT'S ONLY SIX MILES DIFFERENCE.
I'M COMING FROM CEDAR PARKS MATTER.
I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE SCHEDULE ON FRIDAYS, UH, EVERY THIRD FRIDAY AT THE CITY HALL AT TWO 30.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR FOR ME AND WE CAN STILL DO VIRTUAL BETTER HERE.
MR. MOTION CARRIES SIX TO TWO YOU.
OH, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T RAISE YOUR HAND, BUT I WASN.
UH, SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE, OUR FRIDAY MEETINGS, THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, WE HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN PERSON ONE OF US.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH.
UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA SET SHOULDN'T BE
THAT WAS THE LAST AGENDA ITEM.
THE NEXT WOULD JUST BE THE ADJOURNMENT OF THE MEETING THAT WE RECOGNIZED MR. EUGENE TO, UH, CONGRATULATE ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS AND ESPECIALLY OUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ON A GREAT MEETING AND, UH, WELL EXECUTED PROCESS.
THANK YOU CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
I THINK WE MADE IT THROUGH THE FORMING AND STORMING STAGE.
WE'LL, WE'LL BE PERFORMING IN A COUPLE YEARS.
UH, IF I MAY, IF I'D LIKE TO REQUEST ANY, UH, AGENDA ITEMS BE EMAILED TO, UH, THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, UH, ALL COMMISSIONERS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO, UH, THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE DO SO.
UH, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU'LL NEED TO SEND THAT TO STAFF.
UH, SENDING IT TO ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL BE, UH, IMPROPER COMMUNICATION.
UH, CAN I BE RECOGNIZED, UH, REAL FAST? IS IT YES, MR. HARRIS, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD, UH, GET THE, WHATEVER THE, WHATEVER THE MINUTES BYLAWS WE JUST CREATED, IF WE COULD PUT THAT, MAKE THAT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AS, AS SOON AS PRACTICAL IS POSSIBLE? OF COURSE, YEAH.
EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE SENT AND IT'S GONNA BE UPLOADED INTO THE, UH, BOARD COMMISSIONS WEBPAGE.
JUST MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO MAKE THE, THE AMENDMENTS AS REQUIRED.
SO NOW THAT WE HAVE FORMED, CAN I NOW UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GONNA WORK? YEAH.
I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP FROM HERE? DIFFERENT CASE.
SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU SEND YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEMS TO THE LIAISON FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING.
SO IF, IF, IF THAT IS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO BE, YOU KNOW, BRIEFED ON OR IN TERMS OF NO, NOT THE AGENDA ITEMS. I'M SPEAKING MORE TO THE ACTUAL WORK OF NOW THAT WE ARE A FORM COMMISSION, UH, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING ACCESS TO THE MATERIAL AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA REVIEW AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT I TABLED
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FOR EFFICIENCY EARLIER THAT WE WANTED TO GET TO THAT, THAT'S NOT REALLY A, AN ITEM THAT'S POSTED FOR THIS MEETING.UM, SO WE CAN PER, IF, IF THAT'S A, A, AN ITEM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE BRIEFED ON, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS A, AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT SINCE IT HASN'T BEEN POSTED AS AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS MEETING, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE IMPROPER TO DISCUSS AT THIS TIME.
SO I SHOULD SEND THAT TO THE LIAISON THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO OPERATE AND GET MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHATEVER AGENDA ITEM YOU WANT, YOU CAN SEND TO THE LIAISON AND THEN THE LIAISON WILL WORK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CHAIR TO DEVELOP THE AGENDA.
COMMISSIONER FLOOD, CAN I WORK WITH YOU ON THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, UH, OR YEAH, EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADJOURN.
ALICE, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? YEAH, IT DIDN'T TAKE A MOTION.
MOTION TO, TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
UNANIMOUS, UH, MEETING IS ADJOURNED.