* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] 5:05 PM [CALL TO ORDER] THE AUSTIN CITY HALL BOARDS AND COMMISSION ROOM LOCATED AT, UH, 3 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. AND I'D LIKE TO TRY TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE QUORUM FOR THOSE WHO ARE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY THOUGH, WE, YOU, WE NEED Y'ALL TO MAKE THIS QUORUM. SO IF EITHER OF Y'ALL, UM, TURNS OFF YOUR CAMERA OR IS NOT DROPS OFF, THEN WE WILL LOSE QUORUM AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO RECESS TO TRY TO REGAIN THE QUORUM, UM, AT THAT POINT. SO IT IS IMPORTANT IF YOU'RE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, PLEASE DO LEAVE YOUR CAMERA ON AND SORT OF BE ACCESSIBLE SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT QUORUM. ADDITIONALLY, UM, IF YOU'RE ATTENDING, OH, AND HERE'S COMMISSIONER BUFFO. SO YOU JUST GAVE US A LITTLE BUFFER ON THAT QUORUM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. EXCELLENT. UM, AND, UH, IF YOU'RE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU EMAIL, UM, SHOULD THEY EMAIL YOU, ANDRE IS OR MEREDITH, THAT YOU CAN EMAIL ANDRE AND OR MEREDITH. YOU MUST DO THAT AT THE START OF THE MEETING, UM, TO HAVE YOUR ATTENDANCE COUNT. OKAY? SO IF YOU DO NOT EMAIL, THEN YOUR ATTENDANCE POTENTIALLY COULD BE NOT COUNTED AT PRESENT. SO PLEASE DO EMAIL TO LET THEM KNOW YOUR ATTENDING VIRTUALLY AND IF YOU NEED TO RECUSE AND ANYTHING. IF YOU'RE IN THE ROOM, YOU SIGN A FORM THAT SAYS THAT ON PAPER. BUT IF YOU'RE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT VIA EMAIL, SO YOU SHOULD DO THAT. LIKE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T, EMAIL ANDRE AND MEREDITH, TELL THEM YOU'RE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY AND THAT IF YOU'RE RECUSING ON ANY ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TAKE THE ROLL CALL HERE. COMMISSIONER BFO FROM DISTRICT ONE PRESENT. UH, PRESENT DISTRICT TWO IS VACANT, UH, COMM DISTRICT THREE, COMMISSIONER A ALVAREZ. SHE LET US KNOW SHE WOULDN'T BE ATTENDING TODAY. I'M COMM CHAIR. SUMMERS DISTRICT FOUR. I'M PRESENT. UH, COMMISSIONER KAMAN, DISTRICT FIVE. I'M HERE. UM, COMMISSIONER CHEN FROM DISTRICT SIX, NOT PRESENT. COMMISSIONER PRASAD FROM DISTRICT SEVEN. UH, PRESENT. GREAT. COMMISSIONER JACOBSON FROM DISTRICT EIGHT. PRESENT. PRESENT. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR CHUMA FROM DISTRICT NINE HERE. COMMISSIONER SOREN FROM DISTRICT 10 HERE. WAS THAT HERE? YES. PRESENT. GREAT. WELCOME TO OUR GROUP. WE'RE GLAD FOR YOU TO BE JOINING US. UH, THIS GO ROUND AND COMMISSIONER BROWN, UH, THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEE PRESENT. GREAT. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, WITH THAT, THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ALWAYS A PUBLIC COMMUNICATION ON GENERAL ITEMS OR NOT ON THE AGENDA. I BELIEVE WE DID NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AROUND THE ROOM IF ANYONE'S PRESENT TO GIVE FEEDBACK OR COMMUNICATION. SEE NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE [1. Approve the minutes of the Urban Transportation Commission REGULAR MEETING on May 6, 2025. ] APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, WHICH IS ITEM ONE. SO THIS IS APPROVED THE MINUTES OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION MEET REGULAR MEETING FROM MAY 6TH, 2025. COMMISSIONERS. THIS WAS CIRCULATED AS A EMAIL. IT'S ON THE ONLINE BACKUP AND IT'S ON PAPER. IF YOU'RE HERE, PLEASE TAKE A SECOND TO REVIEW THOSE AND THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER FOR THAT. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION OR REVISION OF THE MINUTES? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE ON THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS CIRCULATE. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE. COMMISSIONER SOREN, ARE YOU VOTING ON THAT? YOU CAN VOTE EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T HERE. YES. GREAT. OKAY. AWESOME. UM, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY OF THOSE PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT [2. Discussion regarding the Urban Transportation Commission Annual Report. ] BRINGS US TO OUR DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. SO, UM, THE, UH, FIRST ITEM IS GOING TO BE, UH, A DISCUSSION ITEM, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTED, UH, URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISS COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT. I'M THE FACILITATOR FOR THAT. THIS IS ITEM TWO. SO, UM, THIS IS REALLY, SHOULD BE QUITE QUICK. WHAT I REALLY NEED, UM, Y'ALL TO LET ME KNOW, AND THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR ANNUAL REPORTS, TO GO TO THE ONE, IF YOU GO TO, UM, OUR COMMISSION WEBSITE AT THE CITY SITE, UM, LAST YEAR'S REPORT SHOULD BE UP THERE. IT'S, UH, A LITTLE CONFUSING. 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT. AND THE REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS GOING TO BE THE 2024, I BELIEVE. DO I HAVE THAT THAT RIGHT? SO THAT'S A LITTLE, COULD BE A LITTLE CONFUSING IF YOU WERE, IT FEELS LIKE 20, THAT'S LIKE 20, 24 IS OVER. RIGHT? BUT, UM, SO I AM TRYING TO GET ON THE WIFI HERE. SO BASICALLY WHAT I REALLY WANT Y'ALL'S HELP WITH IS THERE'S A SECTION OF THE REPORT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, ACTUALLY MIGHT BE HELPFUL. IS IT POSSIBLE TO CALL UP LAST YEAR'S REPORT AND JUST SORT OF SHOW IT TO PEOPLE ON THE SCREEN? COULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO? UM, BUT IT'S THE 2023 ANNUAL [00:05:01] REPORT, AND IF YOU FOLLOW THROUGH THAT REPORT, IT SORT OF TALKS ABOUT THE MISSION OR PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION, WHICH IS FROM CITY CODE. WE DON'T REALLY DECIDE THAT. AND THEN, UM, WE LIST, UM, WE LIST THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE HEARD WITH NO ACTION TAKEN. WE LIST OUT ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MAKE OVER THE YEAR. WE OTHER LIST ANY OTHER ACTIONS TAKEN THAT WEREN'T RECOMMENDATIONS. SO VACATIONS OF RIGHT OF WAY MEETING DATES, CHAIR. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYBODY. SO IF YOU FOLLOW THROUGH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE MISSION AND PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM THE CITY, UH, CODE. AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UM, THESE ARE THE LIST OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HEARD, THAT WERE DISCUSSION ITEMS WHERE NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. UM, THESE ARE THE LIST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PASSED IN THE PRIOR YEAR. THEN YOU SEE OTHER ACTIONS THAT WE TOOK, AND THEN I ASSESS IF OUR ACTIONS COMPLIED WITH OUR CODE AND CHARTER. AND SO I WROTE A STATEMENT ON THAT. UH, I THINK YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW, I DO THINK OUR ACTIONS COMPLY, , UM, AND THEN WE LIST OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE NEW YEAR. AND LAST YEAR WHEN I PREPARED THIS REPORT, I KIND OF DID IT JUST BASED ON WHAT I KNEW FROM WHAT PEOPLE HAD EXPRESSED IN THE MEETINGS. BUT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO ME IF Y'ALL WOULD, UM, SHARE WITH ME ANY PRIORITIES OR ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP IN THE NEW YEAR. AND I COULD INCLUDE THAT IN THE REPORT. SO JUST A LITTLE BRIEF DISCUSSION ON THAT. ANYBODY WHO HAS SOME THOUGHTS ON WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I WILL, UM, JUST WRITE THOSE DOWN AND MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE THOSE. SO I, I THINK I'LL SAY, I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA PUT THESE ANYWAYS, BUT THE TOP TWO WE LISTED LAST TIME, I WOULD SAY SHOULD BE OUR TOP TWO ONCE AGAIN, WHICH IS PROJECT ENACT, INCLUDING THE ONGOING AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ST STUDY. HOPEFULLY THAT'S DONE FAIRLY SOON, BUT MM-HMM . UH, AND THE I 35 CAPITAL EXPRESS PROJECTS AND RELATED CITY OF AUSTIN, OUR FUTURE 35 CAP AND STITCH PROGRAM. THOSE I WOULD SAY PROBABLY COULD, COULD BE TOP TWO GOING FURTHER. UM, I ALSO WANT TO THROW OUT ONE OTHER, WHICH IS, UH, THAT WE DID COMMIT TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE, UH, TO IRON OUT WHAT THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COUNCIL SHOULD BE. YEAH. SO I WOULD INCLUDE THAT AS WELL AS A GENERAL, UH, UH, BYLAWS UPDATE. I THINK OUR BYLAWS NEED A LITTLE TWEAKING. WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THEM IN, I THINK 15 YEARS NOW, . UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME AT LEAST REFERENCES THAT COULD BE UPDATED, YOU KNOW, REFERENCES, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO I THINK THOSE ARE, ARE THREE GOOD GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. AND WE'VE DEFINITELY DISCUSSED THE BYLAWS HERE AS WELL. SO I REALLY LIKE THAT. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING I CAN READ THROUGH THE THINGS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR? SO, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR SCHUMACHER, HIGHLIGHT THE FIRST TWO, WHICH WERE, UH, PROJECT CONNECT WITH INCLUDING AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT I 35 CAPITAL EXPRESS PROJECTS RELATED ICE CITY OF AUSTIN, OUR FUTURE I 35 CAP AND STITCH. AND THEN WE HAD AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, IMPLEMENTATION AND UPDATES, A TX WALK, BIKE ROLL UPDATES, POTENTIAL TRANSPORTATION BOND INVESTMENTS, URBAN TRAILS, AND RED LINE PARKWAY INITIATIVE, CAMPO GOVERNANCE PLANNING AND DECISION MAKING, MICRO MOBILITY REGULATIONS. IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, 10 YEAR REVIEW, AUSTIN CORE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA, MANUAL, EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT, IMP AND IMPLEMENTATION AND TRANSPORTATION SAFETY AND VISION ZERO. SOME OF THOSE, LIKE THAT LAST ONE, TRANSPORTATION AND VISION ZERO, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE WITH US NO MATTER WHAT OTHER THINGS MAYBE WE HAVE SORT OF GONE THROUGH, LIKE MICRO MOBILITY MIGHT BE THE MOMENT. I MEAN, WE JUST MAY HAVE WORKED THROUGH THAT. I DON'T KNOW. SO, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE CARRIED OVER OR IS NOT IN THERE THAT WE SHOULD ADD THAT WE WANNA MAKE OUR GOALS FOR THE NEXT YEAR? UH, CHAIR, SORRY. UM, SO THERE'S SOME REALLY EXCITING STUFF HAPPENING IN THE SIDEWALKS AND URBAN TRAILS, UH, PROGRAM RIGHT NOW WITH VARIOUS LDC AND TCM UPDATES ABOUT, UM, GETTING THAT DRAINAGE A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S SOME CODE UPDATES HAPPENING IN THE URBAN TRAILS PROGRAM, SO, SO WHEN LDC IS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, RIGHT? AND MM-HMM . AND, UH, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL. YEAH. TRANSPORTATION. AND THAT'S THAT YOU'RE SAYING SPECIFICALLY IT RELATES TO SIDEWALKS AND URBAN TRAILS? YEAH. AND SO THEY'RE DOING STAKEHOLDER REVIEW LATER IN THE YEAR WHERE THEY'RE COMING TO US WITH VARIOUS, UM, PROPOSED CODE UPDATES THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY INTERESTED IN AS WELL AS FOLLOWING UP ON, UH, WE HAD A GOOD IDEA ABOUT TRAIL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN THERE. SO I THINK THAT PROGRAM IS GONNA GET A LOT OF FOCUS FROM US IN THE FALL. OKAY. TRAIL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. [00:10:02] UM, AND THEN I HAVE A SEPARATE ONE, WHICH IS WE ARE DEFINITELY GONNA BE WANTING TO WEIGH IN ON THE 2026, UH, COMPREHENSIVE BOND PROGRAM. MM-HMM . ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS PROBABLY A DISCUSSION POINT, BUT SHOULD WE ADD TO THAT, UM, DISCUSSIONS AROUND A, A VOTER APPROVED TAX RATE ELECTION, JUST BECAUSE MAINTENANCE OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS IS SUCH A BIG PART OF, UH, OUR OPERATION MAINTENANCE TAXES. WELL, I THINK THAT ANY ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE OR ALTERNATIVE FUNDING IS GONNA COME FROM THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE, LIKE A PROPORTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE RATHER THAN FROM THE TRE. I'M NOT SURE. WELL, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION. I CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORD THAT TO SORT OF INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN THERE. AND, AND ACTUALLY THAT DOES CIRCLE BACK TO A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION WE HAD ON THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE IN, IN THE BUDGET CYCLE THIS TIME. I, I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD FOLLOW BACK AROUND, MAKING SURE OUR TRANSPORTATION USER FEE IS IN LINE FOR SPECIFICALLY THE MAINTENANCE WE NEED TO DO ON OUR ACTIVE MOBILITY ELEMENTS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. LET'S HAVE A POINT IN THERE JUST ABOUT GENERAL, UH, FUNDING AND OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES FROM VARIOUS SOURCES. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT TOO. UM, ANYTHING ELSE, FOLKS? NOTHING FROM ME AT THIS TIME. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THAT MAY CAP IT OFF. SO, UH, BASICALLY WITH, I WILL COME, UM, AT OUR JULY MEETING WITH THE DRAFT, UM, UH, ANNUAL REPORT, UH, THAT'LL BE IN THE BACKUP AND CIRCULATE, AND THEN Y'ALL CAN REVIEW THAT AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON APPROVING THAT AT THE JULY MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY CLERK. SO WE'LL HAVE OUR OBLIGATION PER CODE TO, UM, DO AN ANNUAL REPORT. SO, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, FOLKS. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOES TAKE US TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, [3. Discussion regarding Vision Zero program updates. ] WHICH IS A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE VISION ZERO PROGRAM UPDATES, AND OUR PRESENTER FROM TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS IS JOEL MEYER. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JOEL MEYER. I AM THE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY OFFICER FOR THE CITY. I OVERSEE THE CITY'S VISION ZERO PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR PROGRAM AND CITY'S POLICY TO ELIMINATE ROADWAY FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES HERE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRAM IN GENERAL, AND THEN A SPECIFIC REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT DISTRACTED DRIVING. SO I HAVE A FEW SLIDES ON THAT AS WELL. SO WE'RE GONNA BE GOING OVER SOME DATA AND TRENDS FOR OUR SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES. UM, BUT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO START OUR PRESENTATIONS OFF TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF ROADWAY FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES ON OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO, SO FAR IN 2025, WE HAVE HAD OVER 1100 YEARS OF LIFE LOST ON OUR ROADWAYS. SO THESE ARE THE POTENTIAL YEARS OF LIFE PEOPLE COULD HAVE LIVED IF THEY HADN'T, IF THEIR LIVES HADN'T BEEN PREMATURELY CUT SHORT IN ROADWAY FATALITIES. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE TRENDS, UH, THROUGH APRIL SO FAR THIS YEAR, THE COMBINED NUMBER OF SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES ON AUSTIN ROADWAYS IS 17% LOWER THAN IT WAS AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, AND IT'S 41% LOWER THAN IT WAS IN THE PRIOR FIVE YEAR AVERAGE FROM 2019 TO 2023. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING SOME POSITIVE TRENDS, UH, ESPECIALLY POST PANDEMIC WHEN WE SAW A PRETTY BIG SPIKE, UM, WHEN WE SAW A LOT OF DANGEROUS DRIVING BEHAVIORS DURING THOSE YEARS. UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT FATALITIES ARE UP THIS YEAR COMPARED WITH LAST YEAR, BUT SERIOUS INJURIES ARE WAY DOWN. SO WE LIKE TO LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS TO REALLY GAUGE WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY. AND WE START THIS TREND IN 2015, THAT'S, THAT'S THE YEAR THAT VISION ZERO WAS OFFICIALLY ADOPTED AS A POLICY IN AUSTIN. AND SO THIS YEAR IS THE 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF VISION ZERO IN AUSTIN. WE ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF MODES IMPACTED BY THESE CRASHES. SO THIS YEAR, SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES ARE DOWN AMONGST MOTORISTS, PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS, AND SCOTER RIDERS, BUT THEY'RE UP, UH, INVOLVING, UH, FOR THOSE INVOLVING MOTORCYCLISTS AND OTHER, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY, UH, UH, PETTY CAPS. UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE BIGGEST DECREASE WE'RE SEEING SORT OF THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IS AMONGST MOTOR VEHICLES. THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO A LOT OF THE OVERALL DECREASES WE'RE SEEING, BUT WE'RE ALSO PLEASED TO SEE THE, THE DECREASES IN PEDESTRIANS, ESPECIALLY. THAT'S A TREND WE'VE BEEN TRACKING LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY, THE INCREASING NUMBER OF PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES ON OUR ROADWAYS. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS [00:15:01] STARTING TO COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT. ANOTHER TREND WE'VE BEEN TRACKING OVER THE LAST, UH, REALLY THE LAST DECADE OR SO, IS THE, THE SHARE OF FATALITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING ON CITY OWNED ROADWAYS VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE OCCURRING ON ROADWAYS CONTROLLED BY OTHERS SUCH AS TDOT OR TRAVIS COUNTY, OR C-T-R-M-A. UM, THE TREND WE'VE BEEN SEEING IS THAT FATALITIES ON CITY OWNED ROADWAYS CONTINUE TO GO DOWN OR, OR REMAIN RELATIVELY FLAT, UM, WHILE THOSE ON NON-CITY OF OWNED ROADWAYS CONTINUE TO RISE. AND SO THIS YEAR, CITY, UH, NON-CITY OWNED ROADWAY FATALITIES ARE UP 73% COMPARED WITH THIS TIME LAST YEAR. WE THINK THIS IS PRIMARILY THE RESULT OF THE SAFETY INVESTMENTS WE'VE BEEN MAKING ON OUR ROADWAYS OVER THE LAST DECADE PLUS, UM, REALLY STARTING TO SEE THOSE, UH, BENEFITS APPEAR IN OUR CRASH DATA. ALL THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE MADE IN SIDEWALKS, BIKEWAYS PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS, ALL THESE KINDS OF TREATMENTS, UM, WE THINK ARE, ARE HAVING AN IMPACT ON OUR ROADWAYS. A FEW PROGRAM UPDATES. UM, YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO WITH VISION ZERO IS REDESIGNING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM FOR SAFETY. UM, SO WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THROUGH THE 20 16 20 18 AND 2020 BONDS TO REALLY IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THESE SAFETY TREATMENTS ACROSS THE CITY. UM, THIS YEAR WE WILL, UH, FULLY SPEND OUR 2018 BOND FUNDING. UH, WE HAVE SOME, UH, STREET LIGHTING PROJECTS THAT, THAT ARE GONNA BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR. UH, SO HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, THAT WE'RE ON TIME WITH THAT BOND DELIVERY. UM, AND SO WE'LL REALLY START RAMPING UP A LOT OF OUR 2020 BOND SPENDING. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING THAT EVER SINCE IT WAS PASSED BACK IN 2020, BUT REALLY GETTING INTO THE HEART OF THE SPENDING THIS YEAR AND THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, UM, FINISHING OUT SOME OF THESE MAJOR INTERSECTION SAFETY PROJECTS, UM, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, STREET LIGHTING, AND THEN SOME LOWER COST THINGS LIKE SIGNAL TIMING ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE CAN DO ACROSS THE CITY. UM, WE KNOW THAT WHERE WE'VE INVESTED IN SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE SEEING POSITIVE SAFETY RESULTS. SO JUST A FEW DATA POINTS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY GREAT TO SHARE. ALMOST 30% DECREASE IN INJURIES AND FATALITIES AT OUR MAJOR INTERSECTION SAFETY PROJECT LOCATIONS. WE'VE COMPLETED OVER TWO DOZEN OF THOSE SINCE 2016. UM, THAT'S TRANSLATING INTO 40 FEWER PEOPLE INJURED OR KILLED AT THESE CRASHES AT THESE INTERSECTIONS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. UH, ALSO SEEING IN PRETTY INCREDIBLE 70% DECREASE IN LEFT TURN CRASHES WHERE WE'VE PROTECTED THOSE, UH, LEFT TURN PHASES AT OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS. WE'VE DONE THAT AT A FEW HUNDRED LOCATIONS, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TREATMENT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY LOW COST WE CAN DO ALL OVER THE CITY. AND THEN SPEEDING. SPEED MANAGEMENT IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO. UM, A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT VISION ZERO HAS SPONSORED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ON BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AND BLUFF SPRINGS ROAD, UM, ARE SEEING REALLY SIGNIFICANT DECREASES, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH END SPEEDING. SO PEOPLE GOING OVER 10 MILES AN HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. AND THAT'S REALLY IMPROVING SAFETY FOR EVERYBODY. UM, AND THEN THIS YEAR AND AND INTO THE NEXT FEW YEARS, WE'RE REALLY GONNA RAMP UP IMPLEMENTATION OF PROJECTS FUNDED THROUGH OUR SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL GRANT. THIS IS A, THE FEDERAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION SAFETY GRANT THAT AUSTIN'S BEEN AWARDED THREE TIMES NOW. UM, AND SO THAT'LL GO TOWARDS MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, SYSTEMIC SAFETY TREATMENTS, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, UM, AND THEN A CITYWIDE LIGHTING PLAN, WHICH I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT HERE IN A SECOND. AND THEN JUST HIGHLIGHTING A, A MAJOR INTERSECTION SAFETY PROJECT HERE ON MARTIN LUTHER KING, UH, JUNIOR BOULEVARD AT SPRINGDALE ROAD IN HEFLIN. THAT'LL BE BREAKING GROUND THIS MONTH. AND, UH, THAT'S AN INTERSECTION THAT'S SEEN QUITE A FEW SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. SO I MENTIONED THE CITYWIDE LIGHTING PLAN. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE ACTUALLY LAUNCHED THIS WEEK, UH, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AUSTIN ENERGY AND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. SO THIS IS BEING FUNDED THROUGH OUR 2022 SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL GRANT. UM, THIS EFFORT REALLY COMES FOLLOWING SOME COORDINATION THAT TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC'S WORK PUBLIC AND WORK PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN HAVING WITH AUSTIN ENERGY OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS TO REALLY IMPROVE STREET LIGHTING ACROSS THE CITY. WE RECOGNIZE THAT LACK OF STREET LIGHTING IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST RISK FACTORS FOR THESE SEVERE CRASHES. AND SO WE'VE, VISION ZERO HAS TAKEN ON A MORE PROMINENT ROLE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, FUNDING AND, UH, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS AND WORKING CLOSER WITH AUSTIN ENERGY. SO WE'RE GONNA USE THIS OPPORTUNITY IN THIS GRANT FUNDING TO REALLY TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK CITYWIDE. UM, WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT SUCCESS IN, IN THE WEST CAMPUS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IMPROVING STREET LIGHTING AND PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING THERE FOR BOTH CRIME AND TRAFFIC SAFETY. AND SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT KIND OF APPROACH TOWARDS, UH, CITYWIDE LIGHTING. SO SOME OF THE PLAN ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'LL BE DOING A CITYWIDE LIGHTING INVENTORY, UM, OF STREET LIGHTING, BUT ALSO PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, TRAIL LIGHTING, PARK LIGHTING, UM, THAT'LL FEED INTO SOME UPDATED DESIGN GUIDANCE, REALLY BASED ON BEST PRACTICES AND COMMUNITY PREFERENCES. AND THEN FOR THE FIRST TIME WE'LL BE DEVELOPING AS A CITY NEW PEDESTRIAN AND TRAIL LIGHTING GUIDELINES. SO CURRENTLY THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A, A STANDARDIZED WAY OF APPROACHING PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, AND WE THINK THAT'S A REALLY BIG OPPORTUNITY TO HELP, UH, BRING DOWN SOME OF THOSE CRASHES AND IMPROVE [00:20:01] PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL. UM, PUBLIC INPUT LAUNCHED THIS WEEK, UM, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A PROJECT WEBSITE. I, I, I CREATED THESE SLIDES BEFORE WE HAD AN OFFICIAL U RL, BUT IT'S PUBLIC INPUT.COM/LIGHTING PLAN, AND SO YOU COULD FIND INFORMATION ABOUT THAT ONLINE. WE'LL HAVE, UH, UH, ONLINE MATERIALS AND A SURVEY OPEN FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, AND THEN SOME IN-PERSON OPEN HOUSES, UH, COMING UP NEXT WEEKEND AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY IN, UH, HOUSTON TILSON. SO REALLY EXCITED TO, UM, KICK OFF THAT PLAN AND GET SOME GOOD INPUT. UM, IN ADDITION TO SORT OF RETROFITTING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, UH, WE ALSO DO A LOT OF INITIATIVES AROUND PROMOTING SAFE BEHAVIORS THROUGH EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT CAMPAIGNS. UM, REALLY ANYTHING WE DO IS REALLY TRYING TO BE DATA DRIVEN. IT'S DRIVEN BY THE CRASH DATA WE SEE AND THOSE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THESE SEVERE CRASHES. AND IN AUSTIN, THERE ARE FOUR BEHAVIORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO MOST OF THOSE SEVERE CRASHES BEING SPEEDING, IMPAIRED, DRIVING, DISTRACTED DRIVING, AND FAILURE TO YIELD. SO ANYTIME WE DO THESE CAMPAIGNS, IT'S GONNA BE FOCUSED ON THOSE AND IT'S GONNA BE FOLLOWING THE DATA. UM, THE, THE PHOTOS YOU SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT ARE, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF A IMPAIRED DRIVING CAMPAIGN THAT WE DID EARLIER THIS SPRING, REALLY TRYING TO STRESS THE IMPACTS THAT THE CHOICES PEOPLE MAKE ON AROUND IMPAIRED DRIVING ARE IMPACTING NOT ONLY THEIR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO THEIR WALLET, AND ALSO GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION BY, YOU KNOW, OFFERING PETTY CAB RIDES DOWNTOWN DURING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST. SO WE ALWAYS TRY TO HAVE KIND OF THESE MULTIFACETED CAMPAIGNS. UM, ON THE ENFORCEMENT FRONT, WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR NO REFUSAL DWI INITIATIVE. UM, THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, PREVIOUSLY THIS WAS FOCUSED ON, UH, WEEKENDS AND MAJOR HOLIDAYS IN 2024, WE EXPANDED THAT TO, UH, 365 DAYS PER YEAR. SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A, A PARTNERSHIP WHERE TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS HELPS TO FUND, UM, A PD STAFFING AND OVERTIME RESOURCES, UH, WITH DRUG RECOGNITION EXPERTS THAT CAN HELP PROCESS THESE DWI CASES AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT, UH, DANGEROUS DRIVERS ARE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. SO WE ARE EXCITED TO, TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT LAST YEAR. AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF, UH, ARRESTS FOR DWI. UM, ON THAT FRONT, WE'VE ALSO FORMED SOME NEW PARTNERSHIPS WITH TRAVIS COUNTY. UH, THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING PARTNERSHIP, UM, LOOKING AT DIVERSION PROGRAMS AROUND PEOPLE ARRESTED FOR DWI, SO GIVING PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRESTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH SOME EDUCATION AND SOME DIFFERENT, UM, UH, FACTORS WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO INSTALL A, UH, IGNITION INTERLOCK DEVICE ON THEIR VEHICLE. UM, REALLY TRYING TO REDUCE THE REC RECIDIVISM AROUND THAT BEHAVIOR. AND SO VISION ZERO IS, UH, ACTIVELY PARTNERING WITH, WITH TRAVIS COUNTY AND PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THAT PROGRAM. UH, ANOTHER BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO WITH THE VISION ZERO PROGRAM IS DATA AND EVALUATION. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WE DO IS TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND DRIVEN BY THE CRASH DATA AND RISK FACTORS WE SEE ON OUR ROADWAYS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, A FEW THINGS WE'RE DOING ON THAT FRONT. I DID MENTION THIS YEAR IS THE 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF VISION ZERO IN AUSTIN. WE'LL BE DEVELOPING A 10 YEAR REPORT LATER THIS FALL TO COINCIDE WITH THAT ANNIVERSARY, REALLY TAKING A DEEP DIVE INTO KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AS A CITY OVER THE LAST DECADE, AND ALSO BEING VERY HONEST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGES THAT REMAIN AND, AND TRYING TO CHART A COURSE FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF VISION ZERO. WE ALSO HAVE A REALLY TALENTED, UH, DEVELOPMENT TEAM, UH, WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPING SOME NEW BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE TOOLS, REALLY HELPING US MEASURE THE SAFETY IMPACTS OF TPW PROJECTS. SO NOT JUST VISION ZERO PROJECTS LIKE THE, SOME OF THE METRICS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT REALLY ALL THE INVESTMENTS WE'VE BEEN MAKING, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILES OF, OF BIKEWAYS, HUNDREDS OF MILES OF SIDEWALKS, WHAT IS THE BEFORE AND AFTER, UH, YOU KNOW, CRASH, UH, EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE SEEING ON OUR ROADWAYS, AND HOW DO WE HELP QUANTIFY THOSE BENEFITS TO THE PUBLIC. UM, ANOTHER EXCITING THING WE'RE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS TRYING TO INCORPORATE EXTERNAL DATA SOURCES INTO OUR CRASH DATABASE. SO NOT JUST RELYING ON, YOU KNOW, POLICE REPORTS TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE CRASHES ARE HAPPENING, BUT ALSO BRINGING IN INFORMATION FROM AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY, EMS, AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND OTHERS TO REALLY HELP TELL A, A DEEPER STORY OF, UH, AND HELP PRIORITIZE SOME OF OUR INITIATIVES. AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL BE UPDATING OUR HIGH INJURY NETWORK IN 2025. IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE WE'VE UPDATED THAT NETWORK. THIS REALLY HELPS US TO KIND OF PRIORITIZE AT A HIGH LEVEL WHERE WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING RESOURCES, UH, TO MOST IMPACT THESE SEVERE CRASHES. SO THAT'S IT FOR THE PROGRAM UPDATES. I'VE GOT A COUPLE SLIDES ON DISTRACTED DRIVING. I KNOW THIS WAS A TOPIC OF INTEREST TO THE, TO THE UTC. UM, SO I'LL JUST START WITH WHAT THE DATA SHOWS IN TERMS OF DISTRACTED DRIVING BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY. SO WE PRIMARILY RELY ON POLICE REPORTS, UH, FOR OFFICERS WHO RESPOND TO CRASHES TO KIND OF GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON OUR ROADWAYS AND [00:25:01] THOSE, AND THAT DATA TELLS US THAT ONLY 13% OF SERIOUS INJURY AND FATAL CRASHES, UM, HAD DISTRACTED DRIVING AS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE OFFICER'S OPINION AT THE TIME OF THE CRASH, IT'S NOT ALWAYS FILLED OUT. SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL UNDER REPORTING. SO A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO RELY ON OTHER DATA SOURCES AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL TO KIND OF GIVE US A BETTER PICTURE OF HOW PREVALENT THIS BEHAVIOR IS. THE NATIONAL SAFETY COUNCIL ESTIMATES THAT, UM, CELL PHONE USE IS LIKELY INVOLVED IN 20% OF ALL CRASHES. AND, UH, A TELEMATICS COMPANY ESTIMATES THAT ALMOST 40% OF TRIPS INVOLVE SOME KIND OF PHONE DISTRACTION. SO I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE KINDS OF BEHAVIORS WE ALL SEE OUT ON THE ROADWAYS EVERY DAY. UM, WE ALSO KNOW THAT YOUNGER DRIVERS ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE LIKELY TO BE INVOLVED IN DISTRACTION AFFECTED CRASHES. UM, OBVIOUSLY RELATED TO SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, RISK TAKING THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE TAKE OUT ON THE ROADWAYS. AND THEN THIS STAT, I THINK IS ALWAYS VERY EYE-OPENING. YOU KNOW, SENDING A, A TEXT, UM, OR READING A TEXT TAKES A DRIVER'S, UH, EYES OFF THE ROADWAY FOR FIVE SECONDS. AND SO AT 55 MILES AN HOUR, THAT'S LIKE DRIVING THE LENGTH OF AN ENTIRE FOOTBALL FIELD WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED. SO I THINK PEOPLE REALLY UNDERESTIMATE THE DANGERS THAT THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR, UM, PRESENTS ON, ON OUR ROADWAYS IN TERMS OF EVIDENCE-BASED COUNTERMEASURES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT BEHAVIOR TO, UM, NOT ONLY MEASURE, BUT ALSO, UH, CHANGE. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE, THE LITERATURE AND THE BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE IN TERMS OF REDUCING DISTRACTED DRIVING, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO IS HANDS FREE LEGISLATION. SO, YOU KNOW, BANNING NOT ONLY TEXTING AND DRIVING, BUT ALSO ANY KIND OF HANDS HANDHELD ELECTRONIC DEVICE IN THE VEHICLE. AUSTIN, UH, DID PASS A HANDS-FREE ORDINANCE IN 2025, OR EXCUSE ME, 2015. STATE OF TEXAS PASSED A, UH, TEXT TEXTING WHILE DRIVING BAN IN 2017. SO OUR ORDINANCE IS A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ORDINANCE IS REALLY ONLY AS GOOD AS AS MUCH AS IT'S ENFORCED. UH, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, FIVE, 10 YEARS OVERALL, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT HAS GONE DOWN, UM, JUST DUE TO STAFFING SHORTAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH A PD, THIS BEHAVIOR IN PARTICULAR IS ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT TO, UH, ENFORCE BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO CATCH PEOPLE IN THE ACT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A CH A CHALLENGE ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE IN TERMS OF EDUCATION PAIRED WITH ENFORCEMENT. UM, THIS IS ANOTHER BEST PRACTICE, BEST PRACTICE, EXCUSE ME, BEST PRACTICE. ANYTIME YOU DO ENFORCEMENT, YOU WANT TO PAIR THAT WITH EDUCATION TO REALLY MAKE SURE YOU'RE HAVING THE BIGGEST IMPACT IN GETTING THE WORD OUT THERE THAT THIS IS A, A BEHAVIOR THAT'S NOT TOLERATED ON OUR ROADWAYS. AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO WITH VISION ZERO. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF THE CAMPAIGNS WE TRY TO RUN EVERY SPRING COINCIDING WITH, UH, DISTRACTED DRIVING AWARENESS MONTH, UM, REALLY TRYING TO RAISE THE AWARENESS OF THAT BEHAVIOR. AND THEN I THINK THERE IS ALSO A ROLE FOR TECHNOLOGY AND SOME OF THESE OPT-IN PROGRAMS LIKE USAGE, USAGE BASED INSURANCE PROGRAMS. SO THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS WHERE PEOPLE CAN WORK WITH THEIR, UM, INSURANCE AGENTS TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY OPT IN AND HAVE THEM TRACK THEIR DRIVING BEHAVIORS TO, UH, POTENTIALLY GET LOWER INSURANCE RATES. THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO REDUCE DISTRACTED DRIVING IN THE VEHICLE. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME INTERESTING, UM, TECHNOLOGY OPTIONS AS WELL. UM, WITH THAT. YEAH, GLAD TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. ALWAYS LIKE TO REMIND FOLKS THAT YOUR PHONE, UH, LIKELY HAS A DO NOT DISTURB ALL DRIVING FUNCTION ON IT. THAT'S ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY BASED, UH, SOLUTION THAT CAN HELP WITH THIS BEHAVIOR. SO THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH. I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'M SURE A LOT OF OTHER COMMISSIONERS DO TOO. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. SO, UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE ACCELERATING THE SPENDING OF THE 2020 BOND. UM, WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE YOUR SPEND THROUGH DATE FOR THAT TO BE, FOR THE VISION ZERO SPENDING OF THAT BOND? YEAH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TARGET TARGETING BEING SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, SPENT BY, YOU KNOW, THE END OF 2026 IN INTO 2027. UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR 2020 BOND FUNDING IS BEING LEVERAGED FOR THOSE SAFE STREETS AND ALL FOR ALL GRANTS. WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET, ESSENTIALLY GET 80 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR FROM THE FEDERAL GRANTS. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY EXTEND IT OUT A LITTLE FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT WE THINK IT'S WELL WORTH KIND OF GETTING THAT EXTRA FUNDING. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, SO, UM, WE'VE HAD, UM, A COMMUNITY MEMBER COME TO SEVERAL OF OUR RECENT MEETINGS, UH, TO SPEAK TO US IN COMMUNITY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION ABOUT DISTRACTED DRIVING. AND HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PASSAGE OF THE DISTRACTED DRIVING HANDS-FREE BILL AND NOT BILL, BUT ORDINANCE IN, IN AUSTIN IN 2015. AND, UM, WE ALL KNOW YOU REFERENCED THIS ALSO THAT SINCE THE PANDEMIC JUST OVERALL TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS DOWN, I THINK THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THIS. I'VE EVEN HAD PEOPLE COMMENT TO ME AROUND THE TOWN, LIKE, OH, NO ONE'S ENFORCING TRAFFIC LAWS, [00:30:01] , YOU KNOW, LIKE IMPLICATION BEING THAT THIS PERSON IS USING THAT AS LIKE THEIR CARTE BLANCHE TO SPEED, I GUESS. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL A LITTLE AWARE OF THAT. UM, I'M, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DELVE A LOT MORE INTO PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. IS IT STAFFING SHORTAGES? IS IT OTHER STUFF? WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT VENUE FOR THAT, BUT I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN THE, THE, WHEN THIS, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN HE CAME TO PRESENT, PRESENT TO US, YOU KNOW, HE KIND OF SHARED WITH US THAT WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PASSED, IT WAS BEING ENFORCED. I MEAN, YES, I DO RECOGNIZE IT'S ONE OF THE MORE DIFFICULT THINGS TO ENFORCE. THIS BODY HAS TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IS TO ENFORCE BIKE LANE PARKING VIOLATIONS 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF EPHEMERAL, LIKE THEY'RE HAPPENING UNTIL THEY'RE NOT HAPPENING. AND THEN HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THAT? BUT, UM, IT, THERE IS A SENSE THAT MAYBE AT THE TIME THIS ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, IT WAS ENFORCED MORE. DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF LIKE, AND HE HAD SOME DATA ON LIKE HOW MANY STOPS AND TICKETS THERE WERE WRITTEN FOR THAT AT THAT, YOU KNOW, 20 16, 20 17 VERSUS NOW. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UM, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT YOU MENTIONED, LIKE THE NO REFUSAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UM, LOOK FOR VISION ZERO TO SORT OF STEP THAT UP, THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH A PD TO TRY TO GET THAT BACK ON TRACK? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I, I'LL JUST, JUST STARTING WITH THE DATA, I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE SEEN, UH, A PRETTY PRECIPITOUS DECLINE IN TRAFFIC CITATIONS OF ALL BEHAVIORS, YOU KNOW, OF ALL CITATIONS OVER THE LAST DECADE. UM, DISTRACTED DRIVING IN PARTICULAR WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T, UH, HEAVILY ENFORCED TO BEGIN WITH AND IT'S EVEN LESS SO NOW JUST GIVEN HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO CATCH PEOPLE IN THE ACT. BUT I MEAN, YOU MAY REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT ORDINANCE WAS FIRST PASSED, A PD WOULD DO THESE OP OPERATIONS WHERE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY GET ON A CAP METRO BUS AND, AND, AND ACTUALLY GO ON ROADWAYS AND IT WOULD GIVE THEM A BETTER VANTAGE POINT TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY COMES DOWN TO A, A STAFFING ISSUE FROM WHAT, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE KINDS OF OPERATIONS THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO RIGHT NOW. UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE'VE HAD SOME VERY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, A PD LATELY JUST GIVEN THE NEW LEADERSHIP. AND, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT ONE OF CHIEF DAVIS'S BIG PRIORITIES IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE'RE ENFORCING TRAFFIC LAWS FOR SAFETY. UM, AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HER COMMANDERS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ENVISIONING IN TERMS OF AS STAFFING COMES BACK ONLINE, WHAT COULD ENFORCEMENT LOOK LIKE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING AS VISION ZERO PROGRAM IS SHARING OUR DATA DIRECTLY WITH A, UH, A PD COMMANDERS. SO WE'VE CREATED A DASHBOARD, WE CAN ACTUALLY SHOW THEM SECTOR BY SECTOR WHERE OUR CRASH HOTSPOTS ARE, WHAT THE MOST DANGEROUS DRIVING BEHAVIORS ARE IN INCLUDING DISTRACTED DRIVING. AND THAT'LL GIVE THEM TOOLS TO KIND OF GO OUT AND DO MORE PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT AS THESE RESOURCES, UH, COME BACK ONLINE. THAT, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. UM, I, I KNOW, I, I REALLY THINK THAT, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A LOT OF THE DATA IS STARTING TO SHOW US TOO, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SORT OF LIKE HABITUAL DANGEROUS DRIVERS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND LIKE, UM, JUST LIKE REALLY EGREGIOUS SITUATIONS. AND SO I THINK THAT LIKE, REALLY LOOKING AT THAT AND HOW WE CAN HONESTLY HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR OR MAYBE IN SOME CASES GET THEM OFF THE ROADS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I THINK IS, UM, I THINK IS ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO FACILITATE THAT. UM, I KNOW THE CONVERSATION WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND TICKETING IS, IS A COMPLEX ONE, BUT, UM, FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY NEED TO GET BACK ON TRACK WITH. AND SO ANYTHING THAT YOUR OFFICE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THEN I'LL ASK, UM, FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. SO I KNOW THAT, UM, IN THE NEWS LATELY, AND THIS IS NOT A CITY FACILITY, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A FACILITY THE CITY HAS A INTEREST IN, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT EVEN JUST FOR THE REPUTATION OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THAT I 35, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE NORTH SECTION OF I 35 THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION HAS HAD SOME PRETTY, SOME OF THE MOST HORRIFIC CRASHES THAT I'VE OBSERVED IN MY TIME IN AUSTIN HAVE RECENTLY HAPPENED WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION. AND THERE'S REALLY JUST NO, I KIND OF LIVE UP NEAR SOME OF THAT AND THERE'S REALLY JUST NO ESCAPE FROM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING'S GOING ON, LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF WALLED IN THERE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE, PROBABLY THE MOST NOTABLE ONE WAS OBVIOUSLY I THINK IT WAS AN IMPAIRED DRIVING SITUATION WITH A TRACTOR TRAILER. SO I MEAN, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY CONCERNING, BUT OVERALL I JUST, IT FEELS DANGEROUS TO DRIVE ON. I'VE TOLD MY HUSBAND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE AVOID DRIVING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT, UM, KNOWING HOW THAT'S GOING, AND I WONDER IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO ANY TRENDS OR THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING OR ANYTHING THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP ADDRESS THAT ONGOING SITUATION. AND THEN WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THAT AS WE POTENTIALLY MOVE INTO THE I 35 CENTRAL PROJECT AND KNOWING THAT THAT'S GONNA BE JUST DRIVING THROUGH RIGHT, THE HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SORT OF, I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE THE UNMITIGATED HORRIBLE SAFETY SITUATION THAT TXDOT HAS FACILITATED ON NORTH I 35 RIGHT NOW. IS THAT GONNA ALSO BE WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WHEN THE CENTRAL SECTION GOES? I MEAN, THIS LOOKS LIKE PRETTY CRAZY, [00:35:01] QUITE HONESTLY, SO I'D LIKE TO JUST HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT AND, AND HOW THE VISION ZERO OFFICE OR CITIZENS CAN ASSIST TO TRY TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THAT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW, I THINK OVER THE NEXT DECADE WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION IN, IN OUR CITY BETWEEN I 35 AND PROJECT CONNECT AND, AND ALL THE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND OUR CITY. UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THOSE IMPACTS, THOSE, THOSE ROADWAY CLOSURES. UM, I KNOW OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT IS DOING A LOT OF WORK REGIONALLY BRINGING TOGETHER DIFFERENT PARTNERS AROUND, UM, EFFORTS TO, TO GET THAT WORD OUT AND REALLY COORDINATE CONSTRUCTION EFFORTS. UM, I'M, I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE, HAVE HAD FOLKS IN TO, TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, AND IF NOT, I'M SURE THEY'D BE GLAD TO COME TALK ABOUT THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL LEAVE THE, THE TRAFFIC CONTROL ASPECTS UP TO, TO OUR, OUR ENG ENGINEERS IN TERMS OF WHAT WORKS BEST. UM, I'LL JUST SAY FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION CAN KIND OF BE A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD FOR, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE ON, ON ONE HAND PEOPLE ARE GOING SLOWER AND IT CAN ACTUALLY REDUCE CRASHES, BUT ON, ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, IT CAN CREATE THESE UNCERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AREN'T AWARE OF IMPACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON. HAVE YOU, UM, AND LET ME, LET ME PUT A POINT ON A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE I 35 NORTH SECTION THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I CAN THINK OF SEVERAL JUST SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WERE VERY NEWSWORTHY THAT HAPPENED. IS THERE AN AN INCREASE IN, UH, HIGH INJURY AND, AND DEADLY CRASHES ON I 35 NORTH DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD? SO FAR, I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. WE HAVEN'T LOOKED SPECIFICALLY INTO THAT, THAT AREA YET. OKAY. I'D, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT ANSWER AND I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE US TO CAPITALIZE ON THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. AND I THINK, UM, I DO THINK WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT I THINK HAVING TECH DOT COME TO TELL US, TALK TO US ABOUT SAFETY IS PROBABLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET ON OUR AGENDA AS WELL. ANYWAY, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I, I RECOGNIZE IT'S NOT A CITY FACILITY, BUT IT'S REALLY CONCERNING QUITE HONESTLY. SO, UM, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR SCHUMACHER. THANK YOU. UM, YOU STOLE MAINLY WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS, UM, I 35. I THINK THE ONE THING I'LL JUST ADD TO WHAT YOU, YOU WOULD SAY IS, UM, I THINK HOPEFULLY VISION ZERO CAN PLAY A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE HERE FROM THE TDM SIDE, THE MANAGING DEMAND. YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WE NEED TO BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS NOT JUST ABOUT ALTERNATIVE ROUTES, BUT TRIPS NOT TAKEN BECAUSE OUR SYSTEM IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE STRAIN WITH I 35, UH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING THERE. UM, AND THAT'S FRANKLY JUST NOT A MESSAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET FROM TXDOT, RIGHT? SO I, I I THINK THE CITY MAY NEED TO BE THE ONES WHO STEPS IN AND, AND BRINGS THAT HARD TRUTH THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A TOUGH DECADE. UM, I DO WANNA GO BACK TO DISTRACTED DRIVING. UM, THERE'S PLENTY OF DATA THAT SHOWS WHEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE ROADWAY ELEMENTS LIKE SPEED BUMPS, CURVES, YOU KNOW, MORE NARROW LANES, RIGHT? WE GET SAFER DRIVERS 'CAUSE THEY'RE MORE ATTENTIVE. IS THERE ANY DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT THAT ALSO REDUCES DISTRACTED DRIVING THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO LOOK AT THEIR PHONES WHEN THEY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, ADJUST TO A CURVE, SLOW DOWN FOR SPEED BUMP, THINGS LIKE THAT. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT DATA, BUT IT SEEMS VERY PLAUSIBLE TO ME. YEAH. OKAY. GREAT. UH, COMMISSIONER . HI. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION. IT'S ALWAYS REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THAT NUMBER. THIS IS, I THINK THE THIRD TIME I'VE BEEN ON, I'VE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION AND THAT NUMBER GETS SMALLER FOR THOSE CITY OWNED FACILITIES EVERY YEAR. SO JUST REALLY, REALLY GREAT WORK AND WE'RE JUST SO EXCITED TO SEE THAT. UM, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A SORT OF NEW PROGRAM WITH THE LIGHTING PLAN HAPPENING HERE, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING. WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF. I THINK A LOT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, UM, ROADWAY ELEMENTS THAT ARE MAKING INTERSECTIONS SAFER, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO A VISION ZERO PROGRAM AND REDUCING TRAFFIC, SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES. WE'RE GOING INTO A NEW CAPITAL FUNDING CYCLE WITH THE 2026 BOND. ARE THERE ANY WISHLIST ITEMS OR IDEAS THAT THE PROGRAM HAS THAT HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO BE FUNDED YET? UH, SOMETHING LIKE, I MEAN, LIGHTING IS ONE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE DOCKET THAT YOU WISH YOU HAD THE CAPACITY TO DO? YEAH. YOU KNOW, AS, AS PART OF THE, THE 2026 BOND DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SUBMITTED A KIND OF OUR, OUR LIST OF NEEDS MM-HMM . AND WANNA LET THAT PROCESS CERTAINLY PLAY OUT. UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK LIGHTING COULD CERTAINLY BE A PART O OF THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FUNDED AND WE ARE FUNDED STREET LIGHTING PROJECTS ON SOME OF OUR HIGH ENTRY NETWORK CURRENTLY WITH BOND FUNDING. SO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FORWARD TO KIND OF BEING ABLE TO DO MORE OF THAT WITH, WITH MORE FUNDING. UM, I THINK THE REALITY IS WITH VISION ZERO AND THE WORK WE DO IS LIKE, THE NEED IS ALWAYS GONNA OUTSTRIP THE, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING WE HAVE. SO I THINK A BIG FOCUS OF OURS IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET THE MOST OUT OF THAT, OUT OF THOSE DOLLARS, AND HOW DO WE MAKE THAT GO THE FURTHEST? UM, AND SO FOR ME THAT'S, IT'S ABOUT NOT JUST THOSE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, WHICH COULD BE KIND OF HIGH, HIGH DOLLAR, BUT ACTUALLY EXPANDING THAT TO MORE KINDS OF TREATMENTS, LIKE THESE LOWER [00:40:01] COST KINDS OF THINGS. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF REALLY IMPRESSIVE SAFETY BENEFITS AND BEING ABLE TO STRETCH THOSE DOLLARS FURTHER. SO, UH, NOT A GREAT AN ANSWER FOR YOU IN TERMS OF OTHER THINGS WE WANNA DO, BUT, UH, I THINK LIGHTING IS, IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE. PERFECT. UM, YES, COMMISSIONER PRASAD, SORRY, I JUST ZONED OUT FOR A SECOND. . NO WORRIES. UM, I JUST, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UM, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE ONE, UM, UH, GRAPH THAT YOU SHOWED US THAT HAD A, A SPIKE IN, UM, UH, ACCIDENTS OR FATALITIES, EXCUSE ME, ON, ON NON-CITY ROADWAYS. UM, UH, COULD YOU EXPLICATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON LIKE, UH, LIKE WHERE'S, LIKE, WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT, OF THAT SPIKE AND LIKE WHERE IS THAT HAPPENING AND, AND TO WHAT EXTENT, UM, CAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN INFLUENCE, UM, THAT, UH, IN YOUR OPINION IN ANY ANYWAY? YEAH, SO FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WAY TOO MANY, IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER. SO THERE, THERE CAN BE FLUCTUATIONS YEAR TO YEAR. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF THE BREAKDOWN ON NON-CITY OWNED FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT, UM, OUR FRONTAGE ROADS AND OUR, OUR MAIN LANES OF, OF OUR FREEWAYS. UM, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR MAJOR ARTERIALS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOUTH CONGRESS OR BURNETT ROAD OR, UH, FM 9 69, LIKE THOSE KINDS OF ROADWAYS THAT PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS THINK OF BUT ARE, ARE OWNED BY ENTITIES, UH, OTHER THAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, I THINK THOSE KINDS OF ROADWAYS ARE WHERE WE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WORKING WITH TXDOT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, UH, FIND DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WE CAN AGREE ON AND ACTUALLY BRING CITY FUNDING TO THE TABLE AT SOME OF THOSE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS. UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN, UH, ON THE, ON THE FREEWAYS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WORKING GROUPS THAT ARE DEEPLY EMBEDDED WITH THE DESIGN TEAMS AT TXDOT ON THINGS LIKE I 35, UM, 180 3, 6 20, YOU KNOW, THESE KINDS OF ROADWAYS THAT ARE MAJOR REGIONAL PROJECTS. THE CITY PROVIDES A LOT OF INPUT AND REALLY TRIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ROADWAYS ARE BEING DESIGNED AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AND INTERACT WITH, WITH, UH, THE CITY NETWORK, UH, EFFICIENTLY AS WELL. UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS, IS DIFFERENT ENTITIES HAVE DIFFERENT DESIGN GUIDELINES. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT POLICY GUIDANCE, UM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A CHALLENGE FOR US AND, AND, AND LOCALLY AND, AND NATIONALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO WE JUST HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO CONTINUE TO, TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER. AND, AND IT'S STILL THE CASE. YOU COULD GO MAP THESE AS WELL, RIGHT? SO I'M ASKING THIS FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER PS A BIT, SO LIKE, IF YOU WANNA SEE LIKE WHERE THESE HAPPENED, THERE'S A VISION ZERO MAP ON THEIR SITE THAT YOU CAN GO CHECK AND SEE ALL THE DATA OF LIKE THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THESE OCCURRED AND ON WHAT ROADWAYS AND CITY FACILITIES AND NON-CITY FACILITIES AND SO ON. SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHECK THAT ALL ONLINE, WHICH IS, UH, PRETTY, PRETTY UNIQUE. I THINK WE'RE A LEAD, WE'RE DEFINITELY A NATIONAL LEADER IN THAT, SO YEAH. YEAH, WE'VE GOT A GREAT DATA TEAM. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE EXCEL AT. YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO YOUR POINT TO KIND OF, I'M, I MEAN, KIND OF A LOT OF, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE LIKE, ARE THESE OCCURRING ON 35 OR WHERE ARE THE, WHERE ARE THESE NON-CITY FACILITY EVENTS OCCURRING? I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT ARE THEY SPIKING IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA? I THINK WE WANNA KNOW THAT IF SO, AND, AND WELL LIKE, IS THE, THE, THE BODY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ROADWAY AWARE THAT THIS SPIKE IS HAPPENING? UM, AND ARE WE SUFFICIENTLY VOICING OUR, YOU KNOW, CONCERN, UH, RELATIVE TO THE, UH, TO THE, TO THE SPIKE? RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS? I'M LOOKING, I THINK THE VIRTUAL PEOPLE ARE BEHIND ME RIGHT NOW. I DID HAVE A QUESTION. UM, AND CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES. UH, SO FIRST OF ALL, JOEL, THANKS FOR THE, THE GREAT PRESENTATION AND, AND ALL THE GREAT WORK. UM, MY QUESTION WAS ALSO ON ONE OF THE GRAPHS. SO, AND IF THIS IS COMING IN, UM, THE 10 YEAR REPORT, THEN THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU SHOWED THE, THE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INDUSTRIES THROUGH APRIL, 2025 FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. UM, I GUESS I'M CURIOUS, LIKE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, WHAT'S LIKE THE ANNUAL TOTAL LOOK LIKE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHERE WE STARTED IN 20 14, 20 15, AND WHERE WE ARE NOW? AGAIN, IF THIS IS GONNA BE, I I, I KNOW THIS WILL BE IN THE TENURE REPORT, BUT I'M CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE A, A VIEW ON THAT. ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SORT OF THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SORT OF JUST TRENDS OVERALL? YEAH, I'M LOOKING, I'M THINKING ABOUT TRENDS. SO THE COMPARISON OF WHERE WE WERE IN 2020, I GUESS IT WOULD BE 2014, UH, TO, TO WHERE WE WERE IN 2024. UH, THE OVERALL TREND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE O THE OVERALL NUMBER OF SERIOUS INJURIES AND FATALITIES HAS [00:45:01] BEEN GOING DOWN, AND ESPECIALLY THESE LAST THREE YEARS, UM, FATALITIES HA HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO, YOU KNOW, BRING DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. THEY FLUCTUATE KIND OF YEAR TO YEAR. UM, BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE, THE KIND OF THE PEAK DURING THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, WILL, THOSE TRENDS WILL KIND OF CONTINUE TO, TO COME DOWN. BUT I THINK, YEAH, THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE TENURE REPORT WITH THIS AND REALLY BREAK IT DOWN BY, YOU KNOW, ROADWAY OWNERSHIP, THE, THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN, THE, THE STREET LEVELS AND, AND REALLY HOW THAT'S CHANGED AND HOW THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED BY THE SAFETY INVESTMENTS WE'VE MADE. GOT IT. AND I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD ONE MORE THING. WE WANT TO, WE ALSO TRY TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS. WE WANNA UNDERSTAND IF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GROUPS THAT ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED IN THE, IN THESE CRASHES ARE BEING SERVED BY THE, BY OUR SAFETY INVESTMENTS. WE'VE MADE A VERY STRONG COMMITMENT TO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND HISTORICAL INVESTMENTS AND HOW VISION ZERO AND HOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP ADDRESS THOSE DISPARITIES. GREAT. THAT'S, THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL. AND, AND JUST MAYBE, UH, ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION JUST FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING ON THAT SAME TREND, UH, SLIDE THAT YOU HAD, WAS THAT ALL CITY, WAS THAT CITY OWNED STREETS AND NON-CITY OWNED STREETS? OR WAS THAT JUST ONE, ONE ON JUST CITY OWNED STREETS? IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT FIRST BAR CHART? YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S COMBINED CITY OWNED AND NON-CITY OWNED. OKAY. YEAH, I'LL BE EAGER TO SEE THE, UM, GIVEN THE, THE OTHER SLIDE THAT YOU HAD SHOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, I'LL BE EAGER TO SEE THAT BREAKDOWN IN THE REPORT. THANK YOU. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? GREAT. OKAY. UM, SCENE NONE. I THINK THAT TAKES US TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE ITEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT TO PRESENT TO US TODAY. REALLY, TRULY APPRECIATE THAT. THAT BRINGS US INTO NOW [4. Discussion and approval of a recommendation on the Director Rules for the Residential Permit Parking program. ] OUR DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS ITEM FOUR, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF A RECOMMENDATION ON THE DIRECTOR RULES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM. UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, LAST MONTH WE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED DIRECTOR'S RULES, WHICH WERE NOT AT THAT TIME PUBLISHED. UM, I BELIEVE THEY WERE PUBLISHED MAY 12TH. UM, AND SO A COUPLE OF US TOOK A REVIEW OF THOSE AND, UH, WROTE A RECOMMENDATION. I'M ACTUALLY GONNA LET COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER, UH, PRESENT THE RECOMMENDATION. UM, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU DON'T MIND. UM, YEAH, THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY, BY COMMITTEE TOO, SO I HAPPENED TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE LAST ONE THERE. YEAH, YEAH. I, I CAME IN AT THE END AND DID A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT, NOT TOO MUCH. BUT, UM, SO THIS IS A PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION, UM, ON THE RESIDENTIAL PERMIT PERMIT, PARKING PAR BLAH WILL BE IN THEIR INPUT PERIOD FOR THAT. AND I WAS GONNA SAY SOMETHING ELSE, AND IT'S KIND OF LOST, BUT, UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST LET YOU TALK ABOUT IT. SURE. WELL, I'LL START BY MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION. I'LL SECOND. UM, AND SO I'LL, I'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP THIS A SHORT MEETING. I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST SKIP THE WHERE AS IS COME BACK TO THAT LATER. UM, SO THE FIRST THING I WANNA NOTE IS THAT, UM, THE PROPOSED RULES AS THEY WERE, UM, SENT OUT AFTER OUR LAST MEETING INCLUDED A LOT OF THE CHANGES, UM, WE WERE KIND OF ASKING FOR, JUST IN THAT DISCUSSION WITH, WITH STAFF, UM, CHANGES TO THE DEFINITIONS, UM, MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT PA OH, UH, BIRD JUST HIT THE WINDOW. OKAY. UM, MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT PA UH, PASSES ARE AVAILABLE. SO, UM, THE FIRST THING, THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, UH, DOES IS HIGHLIGHT THE, THE PARTS THAT ARE, WE THINK ARE REALLY GOOD. UM, OF COURSE, IF YOU THINK SOME OF THESE PROVISIONS ARE NOT GOOD, DEFINITELY VOICE THAT. BUT, UH, HYBRID PARKING REGULATIONS, UH, A BETTER DEFINITION OF RESIDENTS THAT DOESN'T EXCLUDE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS. UH, ALLOWING SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR LARGER MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR DAY PASSES, UH, CREATION OF CONSTRUCTION PASSES, UH, AND THE PROGRAM REEVALUATION CRITERIA, ALL OF WHICH I THINK ARE REALLY STRONG. UM, MOVING ON TO THE, THE CHANGES WE'D LIKE TO SEE. I, I THINK THE FIRST ONE IS A LITTLE BIT BROADER. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THERE WAS REALLY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, UM, TOWARDS THE RPP PROGRAM AS IT STANDS, AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN TO SOME OF THESE, UM, COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, THEY CAN GET REALLY INTENSE. AND I THINK SOME OF THAT STEMS AROUND THE VERY PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM. WHEN WHEN YOU GO TO THOSE MEETINGS, YOU HEAR A LOT OF LANGUAGE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR PARKING RIGHT, THIS IS, THESE ARE OUR STREETS. UM, AND I THINK THAT SENSE OF OWNERSHIP OVER THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY IS ACTUALLY VERY DANGEROUS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CREATES, UH, SOME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND HERE. UM, I THINK CITY STAFF IN THOSE MEETINGS ACTUALLY DO A REALLY GREAT JOB OF BREAKING DOWN WHAT THE REAL PURPOSE IS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A CURB THAT IS OVER PARKED, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A CURB THAT'S OVER PARKED, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE REALLY ONLY TWO SOLUTIONS YOU CAN INTRODUCE PAID PARKING, UM, OR YOU CAN, UH, RESTRICT WHO CAN PARK THERE. AND FOR A RESIDENTIAL STREET MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA EXCLUDE CERTAIN PEOPLE FROM PARKING HERE, UH, AS A WAY TO [00:50:01] MANAGE THAT CURB RATHER THAN INTRODUCING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES WITH, WITH PAID PARKING. UM, SO THE FIRST BE OF FURTHER RESOLVE IS JUST KIND OF, UH, SEEING IF WE CAN FIX THE PURPOSE OF THE RPP PROGRAM TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PURPOSE IS NOT JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S, FRANKLY NOT EVEN TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO PARKING ON THEIR STREETS, UH, BUT RA RATHER AS A METHOD BY WHICH WE CAN REDUCE STRAIN ON AN OVER PARKED CURB. UM, AND I ALSO PULL LANGUAGE THERE FROM SECTION FOUR, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE DUTY OF A TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO REGULATE TRAFFIC IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS AND PROPERTY, AS WELL AS ENSURES SMOOTH AND EFFICIENT FLOW OF TRAFFIC. AND WHEN WE'RE ADDRESSING AN OVER PARKED CURB, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT? THERE ARE, THERE ARE SAFETY DANGERS THAT COME WITH AN OVER PARKED CURB, UH, AND AN OVER PARKED CURB DOES, UH, DISRUPT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. SO I THINK FIXING THAT FOCUS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET US ON A GOOD PATH GOING FORWARD WITH THE RPP PROGRAM. UH, THE SECOND ONE, THIS IS, UH, ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, ON THE LAST MEETING. UH, THE NEW RULES THAT ARE CHANGED FROM WHEN WE, WE FIRST SAW THEM, UH, STATE THAT, UH, MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH SEVEN OR MORE UNITS CAN BE ELIGIBLE FOR VISITOR PASSES. UM, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF YOU'RE HO HOSTING AN EVENT AT YOUR, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT COMPLEX AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 20 PEOPLE COMING OVER, YOU CAN GIVE THEM 20 DAY PASSES. UH, VERY HELPFUL. I PLAN ON TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS ALL THE TIME. HOWEVER, UH, I STILL THINK THERE IS, UH, NO REASON WHY TRUE VISITOR PERMITS CAN'T BE ISSUED FOR, UM, PEOPLE IN, IN MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH MORE THAN SEVEN UNITS. UM, AND WHILE THESE CIRCUMSTANCES DON'T HAPPEN A LOT RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU HAVE RPP PARKING WITH A LARGE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO START HAPPENING MORE WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF HYBRID PARKING. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT IN MUELLER, AND I THINK IT WILL HAPPEN MORE. AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT'S A BAD THING EITHER. I THINK HYBRID PARKING IS A GOOD WAY TO KEEP AN EQUITABLE BALANCE OF ACCESS TO THE CURB. UH, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HOW MULTIFAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL TENANTS, UH, CAN RECEIVE SOME SORT OF BENEFIT FROM THIS. UH, THE THIRD PART IS REALLY AN EXTENSION OF THIS, AND I DO THINK THIS IS PROBABLY OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THESE REGULATIONS, UM, FROM THE DIRECTOR'S RULES, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD VOICE THE UTCS OPINION ON, WHICH IS WHEN WE ARE CREATING AN RPP ZONE THAT IS, UH, NEAR OR INCLUDES MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT CANNOT BE PART OF THE TRADITIONAL PROGRAM, UH, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME LEVEL OF COMMENSURATE BENEFIT, RIGHT? UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE ARE ASKING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTIES TO PAY IN ORDER TO ACCESS THEIR CURB, BUT SAYING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE TO, WELL, OR THEY CAN GET A PASS THROUGH RPP, WHICH WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY CHEAPER THAN THAN PARKING THERE. UM, MORE SO, UH, TWO IDEAS THAT I JUST FLOATED THAT I THINK WOULD BE WORTH, UH, EVALUATING ARE, CAN WE GIVE CERTAIN CODES AND PARK ET X TO GIVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR IF THEY NEED TO DELIVER A A, A COUCH INTO THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEX? AND IT'D BE HELPFUL IF THEY COULD PARK ON THE CURB OR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL LOADING ZONES AND DROP OFF ZONES. SO CAN, CAN KIND OF FIT THAT SAME PURPOSE, HELP WITH, UH, UBER AND LYFT. UM, AND THEN I'LL TURN OVER TO, UH, SUSAN FOR THE LAST ONE. YEAH, SURE. THAT WAS MY, UM, MY LITTLE BE IT RESOLVE THAT I ADDED THERE, WHICH WAS SORT OF, UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN OUR DISCUSSION LAST MONTH ABOUT, UM, HONESTLY, I FEEL LIKE SOME RPPS WERE PUT INTO PLACE TARGETING PATRONS AND EMPLOYEES OF VENUES. SO THIS COULD BE A MUSIC VENUE, A RESTAURANT, DIFFERENT CULTURAL VENUE, LIKE RIGHT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT GOES IN BY YOU THAT'S REALLY COOL. IT'S REALLY COOL TO LIVE NEXT TO A COOL WINE BAR OR A COOL MUSIC, UH, VENUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THEN OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE DO PARK. UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S A CONCERN, UM, ABOUT EMPLOYEE PARKING AND WE'VE SEEN THAT ADDRESSED REALLY, REALLY WELL, WHICH CAME UP IN OUR DISCUSSION DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM. SO, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS A PROGRAM WHERE, UH, EMPLOYEES, UH, OF DOWNTOWN CULTURAL VENUES, UM, GET DISCOUNTED PARKING IN GARAGES THAT OFTEN SIT EMPTY AT NIGHT 'CAUSE THEY'RE SERVING LIKE A BANK OFFICE BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND SO THE CITY HAS PARTNERED WITH THOSE, UH, GARAGES TO OFFER THIS PROGRAM TO THE EMPLOYEES OF CULTURAL VENUES. AND SO I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING AT A PARTICULAR VENUE AND THE EMPLOYEES ARE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN PUTTING IN THAT RPP WITHOUT ANY THOUGHT TO EMPLOYEES ISN'T REALLY FAIR IN MY OPINION, ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY PRIDE OURSELVES ON CULTURAL VENUES IN AUSTIN AND, AND SUPPORTING THOSE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, WHEN PROPOSED RPP GOES IN THAT, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING AT THAT AT THE CULTURAL VENUES TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE TAKEN CARE OF TO HAVE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE OPTIONS FOR PARKING USING THE AFFORDABLE PARKING PROGRAM. AND ALSO TO, THEY DEFINITELY INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE DIRECTOR'S RULES AS WELL, SO THAT POPULACE IS NOT FORGOTTEN. SO THOSE ARE OUR, UM, THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION. [00:55:02] AND IF I COULD ACTUALLY BE RECOGNIZED TO MAKE A QUICK AMENDMENT. YEAH, OF COURSE. OKAY. SO, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND, UH, TWO THINGS. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO STRIKE THE LAST, WHEREAS CLAUSE, WHICH SAYS, WHEREAS EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS A KEY PRIORITY, AND THE UTC BELIEVES THE DIRECTOR'S RULES SHOULD ENSURE THAT RESIDENTS OF LARGER MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES ARE NOT EXCLUDED FROM FI OR PERMANENT ACCESS OR COMPARABLE BENEFITS AFFORDED TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. UH, GOOD STATEMENT. I JUST THINK IT'S A LITTLE POL TOO POLICY BASED FOR A W CLAUSE. UM, I WROTE IT JUST AT THE TIME, IT SOUNDED GOOD. AND NOW LOOKING AT 'EM LIKE THAT SHOULDN'T BE A WAREHOUSE CLAUSE. SO I'D LIKE TO STRIKE THAT. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO FIX A LITTLE BIT OF A TYPO ON THE SECOND, BE IT FOR THE RESOLVED. SO THE ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM STRIKE WHERE IT SAYS, REDUCE OVER PARKED CURB ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND REPLACE IT WITH REDUCE STRAIN ON OVER PARKED CURBS ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. I THINK THAT READS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I WILL, SORRY, COMMISSIONER SMA, I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY IN THAT SECOND CLAUSE YOU JUST REFERRED TO THAT YOU SAID, UM, DUTIES OF A TRAFFIC ENGINE, IT MAY INCLUDE LANGUAGE FROM SECTION FOUR, THE DUTIES ARE TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS, ET CETERA, INSTEAD OF JUST USING THAT LANGUAGE, UM, LEAVING IT UP TO, UH, CITY STAFF TO STRUCTURE THAT HOWEVER THEY WANT. UM, UH, I, I, I THINK YOU COULD SAY IT MORE ELOQUENTLY IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF AN OVER PARKED CURB, BUT THAT SECTION WAS IN THERE, SO I THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE TO REFERENCE IT. I BELIEVE THAT SECTION IS TAKEN FROM CITY CODE ABOUT THE DUTIES OF A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. UM, YEAH. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT MAKES SENSE, THE SUBSTITUTE THERE COULD, UM, BUT SO SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU JUST PROPOSED THEN? FOR SURE. STRIKE THE LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE AND THEN IN THE SECOND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. STRIKE REDUCE STRAIN, NO, SORRY, STRIKE, REDUCE AN OVER PARKED CURB ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND REPLACE IT WITH REDUCE STRAIN ON OVER PARKED CURBS ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. I GUESS THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IS BECAUSE LIKE THE TERM OVER PARKED CURB DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING TO ME. DITTO, I, I WAS GONNA ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE THAT I HAD. WELL, OKAY, SO, SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO ROBERT'S RULES. SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, UM, FOR, TO, TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND IT MM-HMM . AND WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO TAKE THAT UP NOW, BASICALLY. YEAH. SO HERE'S WHAT I'LL DO, SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANT, MAY WANNA AMEND THAT, UM, CLAUSE FURTHER. I WILL SUBSTITUTE MY MOTION JUST TO STRIKE THE LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE SO WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSING THAT. OKAY. OKAY. I'M GONNA SECOND YOUR MOTION TO STRIKE THE LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE. CAN WE QUICKLY TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF STRIKING THE LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE? OKAY, I'M GONNA CALL FOR A VOTE ON THAT. ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT AMENDMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE, THOSE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, COULD YOU LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS OR, OR SPEAK UP AND YOU HAVE TO BE ON CAMERA FOR THE VOTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER SORIN, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T TURN ON YOUR CAMERA FOR THE VOTE, WE CANNOT COUNT YOUR VOTE. SORRY, MY CAMERA IS ON. IT'S JUST, UH, GOING IN AND OUT FOR SOME REASON. OH, I'M SORRY. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL DO OUR BEST THERE. SO I THINK WE'RE PASSING THAT REGARDLESS. THAT WAS, AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BROWN, YOU WERE A, A YES ON THAT AS WELL. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY, GREAT. SO, UM, THAT, THAT AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS STRIKING THE FINAL, WHEREAS DID PASS, WHICH TAKES US BACK TO THE MAIN AMENDMENT WE CAN, OR THE MAIN MOTION WE CAN DISCUSS OR FURTHER AMEND. SO, UM, SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS OF DISCUSSION. YEAH. UH, UH, SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, UH, OR SUGGESTIONS, UH, UH, AS WELL MM-HMM . UM, THE FIRST IS A, IS A KNIT, I'LL GET THAT OUTTA THE WAY. UM, I THINK THE DEFINITION OF RESIDENT IS IN A V SIX, NOT V FIVE, JUST, UM, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE WANNA AMEND. UM, AND, AND THAT TYPE OF, THAT TYPE OF ERROR, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO PASS THE WHOLE AMENDMENT ON THAT, WE CAN JUST CORRECT THAT. LET'S JUST MAKING A CORRECTION, EITHER TYPOGRAPHICAL OR FACTUAL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN JUST CORRECT. OKAY. SO, YES, SOUNDS GREAT. UM, AND SO MY BIGGER CON, MY LARGER CONCERN, UM, IS THAT, UH, I, I THINK THAT WE COULD USE BETTER DATA TO INFORM OUR DECISIONS ON PARKING FOR MULTI-UNIT HOUSING AND RPP. WELL, I HAVE ACTUALLY TWO LARGE CONCERNS. THE FIRST CONCERN IS ABOUT MULTI-UNIT, UM, RPP HOUSING AND THEN THE HALO EFFECT ON BUSINESS PARKING, AS YOU ALLUDED TO, LIKE CULTURAL VENUES AND, AND BUSINESSES THAT, UM, WHERE THERE ARE PATRONS OR VISITORS OVERFLOW INTO RESIDENTIAL PARKING. SO I'LL, I'LL START WITH, UM, UH, UH, I'LL START WITH THE MULTI-UNIT, UM, HOUSING AND RPP ZONES. [01:00:01] IT SEEMS TO ME JUST READING THE, UM, UH, THE, THE PROPOSED, UM, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE, THE RECOMMENDATION? UM, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DIRECTOR'S RULES THEMSELVES OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION? OUR RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. MM-HMM . YES. UM, SO, UH, I AM, UH, SO LET, LET'S START, UH, WITH THE DAY PASS, UM, RECOMMENDATION. UM, WE'RE PROPOSING IN OUR RECOMMENDATION ALLOWING, UH, MULTI-UNIT, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH SEVEN OR MORE UNITS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR DAY PASSES. UM, WHICH, UH, IN MY MATH, UH, MEANS THAT EACH LESSEE AT A LIKE RESIDENTIAL UNIT WHERE SOMEONE IS RENTING, UM, WILL HAVE THE ELIGIBILITY TO GET, UH, UH, 20 PASSES FOR SIX EVENTS A YEAR. IS, IS THAT YEAH. IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE WANT? IT'S FOR ONE DAY. AND, AND THAT'S TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S IN THE, THE DEPARTMENT'S DIRECTOR'S PROPOSED RULES. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE PROPOSING. THEY HAVE PROPOSED THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING THAT PROPOSAL. UH, SO THEY HAVE EXPLICITLY PROPOSED THAT, UH, MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS THAT, THAT EACH RESIDENT IS ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, SIX EVENTS A YEAR WHERE THEY GET 20 PASSES FOR A DAY. UM, FOR, FOR THAT EVENT. THAT THAT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING? CORRECT. OKAY. I MEAN, TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE SOLVING A PROBLEM WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING LIKE THEY'RE PRESENTING A SOLUTION WITHOUT THERE BEING A PROBLEM NECESSARILY, LIKE PRESENTED, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, TO, TO ME IT READS LIKE WE'RE ASKING TO SOLVE BEFORE WE'RE SEEING THE DATA THAT THAT POINTS TO A PARTICULAR PROBLEM. UM, SAME THING WITH, UH, THE VISITOR, UH, PARKING PASSES. UH, JUST TO MY, UH, JUST TO MY EYES, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IF WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, UH, A MULTIUNIT RESIDENTIAL, UM, UH, PROPERTY, UH, ALLOWS ITS RESIDENTS TO HAVE VISITOR PASSES, UH, DOES THAT MEAN THAT EACH LESSEE HAS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY, UM, UH, AND I, I, I, FIRST, I WORRIED THAT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE, UH, AN AFFLUENT, UH, RESIDENT MIGHT HAVE SIX PASSES MM-HMM . BUT THERE'S ALSO A, UM, A PROGRAM WHERE FOLKS WHO, UH, ARE ARE LOW INCOME CAN, UH, CAN QUALIFY WITH THESE PASSES. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY EVERYBODY DOES EVERY LESSEE, UH, AT A RESIDENTIAL MULTI-UNIT PROPERTY HAVE SIX PASSES YEAH. THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR. SO IT'LL, THE WAY IT'LL WORK, UM, THE WAY THE VISITOR PARKING PROGRAM WORKS CURRENTLY AND THE RPP PROGRAM, AND FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S A SET AMOUNT. SO THEY HAVE A SET AMOUNT THAT THEY DETERMINE CAN BE USED ON A GIVEN STREET, UH, TO AVOID OVER PARKING ON THE CURB. SO WHOEVER TAKES UP THOSE FIRST, IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO DANGER OF, UH, THEY'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, THERE BEING A 400 PERSON APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THERE BEING 400 VISITOR PASSES, THEY, THEY WOULD SET A NUMBER THAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, AND THEN WHOEVER CLAIMS THOSE AND PAYS FOR THEM, GETS THEM. I SEE. THE DRAFT, UH, CHANGES DID NOT SUGGEST THAT LI LIMITATION. NO. THAT'S JUST HOW THE, THAT'S JUST HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS UNDER, I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT'S IN THE RULES. I THINK THAT'S JUST HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS. UNDER CURRENT IMPLEMENTATION, WE WOULDN'T ISSUE 20 PASSES TO 400 LEASES OR RESIDENTS OF A MULTIFAMILY UNIT ON THE SAME DAY, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE PROBLEM THAT WOULD CAUSE WITHIN THAT AREA. A HUNDRED PERCENT. UH, UH, WHEN I, WHEN I READ THE PROPOSAL, WHEN I READ OUR RECOMMENDATION, UH, IT, UH, I DUNNO, AS, AS SOMEONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS SPELLED OUT, IT, IT'S NOT THERE. UM, SO IT'D BE GREAT PERHAPS FOR OUR LANGUAGE TO BE CLEAR IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC WILL READ AND WILL TRY TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, WHAT AM I ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO? WHAT, WHAT CAN I NOT DO? UM, AND IT, IT BECOMES LESS CLEAR WHEN IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO THEN ASK THE CITY FOR ADVICE ON. AND IF WE CAN BE CLEAR UP FRONT, I THINK THAT'LL BE BETTER. UM, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING. UM, AND, AND, AND, YEAH, I, I, I WASN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT LIKE, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE PEOPLE COULD START DOING MATH IN THEIR HEADS THE WAY THAT I DID MM-HMM . UM, UH, WOULD, WOULD NOT JUST CREATE RABBIT HOLES, UM, FOR PEOPLE. SO I WONDER IF IT ISN'T WORTH US JUST ASKING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE DATA, UM, ON THE, THE, THE ISSUE OF MULTI-UNIT, UM, UH, ZONES THAT ARE IN MULTI-UNIT HOUSING THAT IS IN RPP ZONES. AND JUST UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE PARADIGMATIC CASES LIKE MUELLER, YOU TALKED ABOUT MAYBE BEING A, A USE CASE WHERE IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING OKAY, OR, YOU KNOW, CASES WHERE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA CALL THEM LIKE BAD, LIKE, UH, BADLY IMPLEMENTED SITUATIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, PLACES WHERE WE COULD LEARN. UM, LIKE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT, WE MIGHT BE BETTER INFORMED IN OUR RECOMMENDATION IF WE WENT WITH A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH TO START WITH. I'M FINE WITH THAT AS LIKE A SEPARATE BE IT FOR THE RESOLVE IF WE WANT, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, SOME MORE DATA ON THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY COMMON THING HAPPENING IN MANY PLACES. [01:05:01] I THINK WHAT, WHAT CURRENTLY YOU SEE HAPPEN IS, UH, THEY WILL DO PAID PARKING IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S MULTIFAMILY AND THEN RPP ON KIND OF THE BACK STREETS WHERE THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE MORE OFTEN. WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO START CHANGING THAT IS THE INTRODUCTION OF HYBRID PARKING WHERE YOU BLEND BOTH THE RPP PROGRAM AND THE PAID PARKING PROGRAM. AND I DO THINK THIS IS A, A PROBLEM IN THE CURRENT, UM, PROGRAM AS WELL, IN THAT IF YOU RESTRICT JUST THE PAID PARKING AREA TO, UH, UH, WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS ARE AND THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ALL HAVE RPP, THEN THE OVER PARK CURBS BECOME WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY PARKING IS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PARK IN THOSE RPP ZONES. SO EVERYONE IS TRYING, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ARE ALL TRYING TO PARK ON THE STREET WHEREVER THE MULTIFAMILY PARKING IS. I THINK HYBRID PARKING, THE INTRODUCTION OF IT CREATES BOTH OPPORTUNITIES TO FIX THAT. AND PROBABLY AN EXPANSION OF THIS HAPPENING. SO THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THAT IS KIND OF WHERE MUELLER IS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF EXPANDING HYBRID PARKING TOWARDS THE WHOLE ZONE. UM, AGAIN, THAT CAN FURTHER THE PROBLEM OF ASKING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS TO PAY FOR PARKING AND HAVE EVERYONE ACCESSING THEIR THEIR STREETS. IT DOES ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK IN RPP ZONES. WHAT I THINK IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR IS US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, ALL RIGHT, PERHAPS WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A TRUE RPP PASS, WHICH IS, YOU CAN PARK HERE WHENEVER YOU WANT, WHEREVER YOU WANT, AND YOU DON'T NEED TO PAY FOR PARKING BEYOND WHAT YOU PAID FOR FOR YOUR PERMIT. BUT LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IS THERE REALLY AN ISSUE WITH THEM HAVING DAY PASSES? IS THERE REALLY AN ISSUE WITH RESIDENTS HAVING VISITOR PASSES? 'CAUSE THERE'S ULTIMATELY NOT A DIFFERENCE AS LONG AS THE NUMBER IS CAPPED BETWEEN IF SOMEONE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLD HAS A DAY PASS VERSUS IF SOMEBODY IN A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLD HAS A DAY PASS. I, I WOULD ALSO JUST VENTURE THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DATA THAT SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE PRETTY UNHAPPY WITH THIS PROGRAM. AND I THINK A LOT OF IT ACTUALLY IS DRIVEN BY PEOPLE EITHER VISITING AREAS, TRYING TO GET TO A RESTAURANT OR GET TO THEIR WORK OR LIVING IN MULTIFAMILY AND NOT HAVING THE ACCESS. AND THE PROGRAM REALLY HAS BEEN PRETTY MUCH DESIGNED TO REALLY CLEAR THE WAY FOR AFFORDABLE, CHEAP, ACCEPT ACCESSIBLE PARKING FOR PEOPLE IN SINGLE FAMILY AND REALLY DEPRIORITIZE OTHER NEEDS. SO I THINK THAT LIKE THE DATA OF THE PROGRAM STRUCTURE AND THE SURVEY FEEDBACK REALLY TELLS US THAT. AND ALSO MY OWN EXPERIENCE IN LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY WATCHING THIS FOR, YOU KNOW, SINCE BASICALLY 10, 10 YEARS OR MORE, TELLS ME THAT. SO, I MEAN, I DO, I ALWAYS THINK THAT DATA IS, IS GOOD TO COLLECT DATA. I THINK IT'S HARD TO COLLECT DATA ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WANNA THROW HOW MANY EVENTS WITH HOW MANY GUESTS. THAT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT THING, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONCE, ONCE YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE YOU HAVE ABILITY FOR A DAY PASS OR A VISITOR PASS, THEN YOU SEE THE DEMAND THAT COMES FROM THE MULTIFAMILY. IT'S ALSO GONNA BE HARD TO GAUGE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW STREETS WITH LARGE MULTIFAMILY GENERALLY HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED WITH RPP. SO THIS IS SORT OF A NEW, NEW VENTURE LIKE SPENCER WAS MENTIONING. IT'S LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT NEW. UM, WE'VE SEEN, CERTAINLY SEEN STREETS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY NEXT TO A QUADPLEX OR SOMETHING. THERE MIGHT BE AN RPP IN THAT, THAT TYPE OF ZONE. BUT LIKE SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S LIKE A PRETTY DENSE MULTIFAMILY A LOT OF TIMES HASN'T HAD A RPP. IT'S LIKE THERE HAD METERED PARKING THERE AND THEN TWO STRAIGHTS OVER WHERE THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY, THERE'S RPP AND THE STREETS ARE TOTALLY CLEARED OF PARKING WITH JUST A FEW RESIDENTS PAYING FOR PARKING ON THAT STREET AND EVERYBODY TRYING TO COMPETE FOR THE METERED PAID PARKING ON THE MULTIFAMILY. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT, LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IN THE RECOMMENDATION A LITTLE BIT, UM, I DUNNO IF I'M HELPING HERE, BUT YEAH, I, WHERE I'M, WHERE I'M A LITTLE STUCK IS WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT KIND OF, UM, UH, SOLVES A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE DATA, UM, TO, TO SUGGEST THAT IT NEEDS SOLVING. LIKE, UM, AND, AND GRANTED, I I A HUNDRED PERCENT TAKE THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK, UM, UH, THAT LIKE THE PROGRAM ISN'T WORKING FOR THEM. LIKE THIS, THEY MENTIONED PROBLEMS OF ENFORCEMENT, WHICH WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED IN OUR RECOMMENDATION. UH, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT MAYBE WE, WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT. UM, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY THE, THE, THE EQUITABLE OWNERSHIP OF THE CURB. UM, I, I I I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND I TAKE THAT, THAT THAT FEEDBACK. I JUST THINK THAT, UM, I WONDER IF MAY LIKE, UH, THE, THE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT, UM, UH, MENTIONS THAT WE SHOULD REVIEW OR, OR WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE, THE TPW REVIEW WHETHER INELIGIBLE, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS IMPACTED BY THE CREATION OF A A PARKING ZONE CAN BE, UH, GIVEN A, A COMMENSURATE BENEFIT. I LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. UM, THE, THE IDEA OF REVIEWING, UM, THE, UH, THE DATA OF, UH, FOLKS IN MULTIFAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, RPP, UH, ZONES, UM, TO EXPLORE THESE OPTIONS, UH, IS, IS GREAT. BUT, UH, I'M, I'M NOT SO SURE, I'M NOT SO SOLD ON THE IDEA OF, UH, OR ROLLING OUT, UM, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS WITH, WITH, WITH NUMBERS WHERE [01:10:01] I CAN, WHERE I CAN RABBIT HOLE KIND OF THING. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? I WOULD, UH, MY AMENDMENT WOULD JUST BE, WELL, I, I I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS THAT, THAT WE COULD CONSIDER. UM, UH, AND THIS IS, WELL, YOU SHOULD, SO IF YOU WANNA MAKE AMENDMENT, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD MAKE A MOTION AND THEN YOU CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THE MOTION. IS THAT SURE. OKAY. UM, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND, UH, TO BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, UH, THAT THE UTC RECOMMENDS THAT THE DIRECTOR'S RULES BE AMENDED TO ALLOW RESIDENTS OF MULTIUNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH SEVEN OR MORE UNITS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR VISITOR PERMITS UNDER SECTION 12 D. UM, SO I WOULD, UH, I MOTION THAT WE, UH, DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE BE IT FOR THE RESOLVED, UH, OF THE COMMENSURATE BENEFITS WHERE IT'S A REVIEW, UM, OF, UH, THE UTILITY OF VISITOR PERMITS OR EVEN OF DAY PASSES, UH, FOR MULTI MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL, UM, FROM THE TPW, I MEAN TO OUR COMMISSION, UH, OR REALLY SO SO TO THE PUBLIC. SO LET ME, LET ME TRY TO HELP YOU HERE 'CAUSE WE NEED A, UM, LIKE A, A MOTION EXPLICITLY. SO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE DIRECTOR'S RULES SORT OF, YOU'RE CHANGING THE LANGUAGE HERE. IF WE'RE LOOKING ON THIS THIRD, BE IT RESOLVED WHERE IT SAYS UTC RECOMMENDS DIRECTOR'S RULES TO BE AMENDED TO ALLOW RESIDENTS OR MULTI RESIDENTIAL MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH SEVEN MORE UNITS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR VISITOR PASS PERMITS. YOU WOULD LIKE THAT TO INSTEAD SAY THAT THE DIRECTORS THAT TPW REVIEW WHETHER RESIDENTS OF MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH SEVEN OR MORE UNITS SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR VISITOR PERMITS. NO. WHETHER MAYBE, UH, WHETHER AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT, UH, THE, A SYSTEM FOR VISITOR AND DAY PASSES FOR MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UM, IN, UH, RPP ZONES. SO THE, THE, THE TPW REVIEW WHETHER AND HOW TO ALLOW AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT EVEN OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF, OF, UH, OF, OF THESE THINGS. IT'S JUST, UH, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A SOLUTION HERE. 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. OKAY. SO I THINK YOU'VE EXPLAINED YOUR MOTION. WE CAN GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT LATER. UM, DOES THIS MOTION HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT. OKAY. WHO WAS THE SECOND? WAS THAT COMMISSIONER SORIN? YES. AND SORRY IF MY VIDEO'S STILL NOT SHOWING UP. I'M TRYING TO RESOLVE IT ON MY END, BUT I I DO HAVE IT ON. CAN WE ALLOW THAT, ANDRE, WOULD SOMEONE ELSE WANT TO SECOND IT IN THIS PRESENT OR ON VIDEO? NO QUESTION. SURE. MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION OF WHAT IN THIS BE IT FURTHER RESOLVE? ARE YOU, ARE YOU WANTING TO PUT IN SOME LANGUAGE HERE THAT IT, BECAUSE I SEE THIS AS LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO INTRODUCE IN THIS PROGRAM ARE LIKE TWO OTHER PROTECTED CLASSES. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WANNA TALK ABOUT WORKERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, I THINK FROM YOURS, WE'RE TALKING TO EXPAND IT TO LARGER MULTI-FAMILY UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT COVERED. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THIS PROGRAM TO INCLUDE TWO NEW PROTECTED CLASSES THAT DON'T EXIST THERE. ARE YOU HESITANT ON MAKING THAT EXPANSION BECAUSE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MORE DATA BEFORE WE GO? UM, 'CAUSE LIKE, AS A VERY SPECIFIC, SOME OF THOSE LARGER, YOU KNOW, 500 UNIT THINGS IN MUELLER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, I COULD SEE HAVING SOME TREPIDATION THERE, BUT THE FOURPLEXES ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THERE COULD BE THAT THEY MIGHT NEED MORE 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ALLEYWAY SPACE. THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE COULD LIVE IN THOSE UNITS. SO LIKE I, I SEE THE DESIRE. I THINK RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT WE, I'M A LITTLE, I DO THINK IT'S JUST BETTER TO EXPAND, EXPAND THESE PROTECTED CLASSES WRIT LARGE IN BOTH CASES. BECAUSE I, I DUNNO FROM MY EXPERIENCE, LIKE THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THE DATA, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S ADDING A LITTLE, IT'S TOO KEEPING IT, I DUNNO, TOO CUMBERSOME, TOO COMPLICATED TO LIKE, MAKE THAT THRESHOLD. I JUST THINK THE NEED IS TO EXPAND THESE PROTECTED CLASSES BEYOND WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW. UM, AND BUT SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING YOU WANT A DATA METRIC TO? YEAH, I MEAN, AND, AND JUST TO, UH, UH, CLARIFY MY THINKING JUST BASED ON THE, THE PRESENTATION WE GOT, UH, IN LA AT LAST MONTH'S SESSION, UH, IT SEEMED LIKE THE INITIAL ROLLOUT OF THE PROGRAM, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WAS CENTERED AROUND THE, THE, THE UT COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RULES KIND OF BUILT OUT, CENTERED TO THEIR NEEDS AND EXPANDED OUT FROM THERE KIND OF THING. AND, AND THIS IS THE UNIQUE MOMENT TO RESHAPE THIS PROGRAM SINCE THEY'RE STARTING KIND OF TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, UM, UH, AS THE SCOPE OF ITS, UH, YOU KNOW, ITS IMPACT, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM TO CONSIDER THEIR RULES MORE, MORE CAREFULLY, UM, BEFORE IMPLEMENTING THEM AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, UM, I DUNNO, JUST THROWING THINGS AT THE WALL, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE THROWING THINGS AT THE WALL. I, I JUST THINK THAT I, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A MORE DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR IN, IN, IN MY, IN THAT PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE, IT [01:15:01] LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER SOREN HAS DROPPED OFF. MAYBE HE'S GONNA TRY TO REJOIN WITH HIS CAMERA ON, I'LL, I'LL SECOND JUST SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. OKAY. AND THIS BASICALLY IS GETTING US TO AN IF SLASH WHETHER OF THIS WHOLE THING OR A REVIEW OR BACKING OFF. YEAH, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE BACKING OFF FROM WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS BE, AMEND IT IN THE CURRENT RULES TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE NOT SURE, STUDY IT AND COME BACK. SO IF I, IF I CAN, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, LET'S ADD A, I'D BE FINE IF WE ADDED A CONSIDER AND JUST LIKE A, CONSIDER ADDING A VISITOR PARKING, IF THAT MAKES EVERYBODY MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD. I FEEL LIKE I WOULD BE ABLE TO, THAT IT WOULDN'T ADDRESS MY CONCERNS. YEAH. I JUST, I HONESTLY DON'T FEEL, I DON'T FEEL CONCERNED ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION AS WRITTEN. SO I, I'M NOT PERSONALLY GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. SO, UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO FACILITATE MORE DISCUSSION FOR, FOR OTHERS. SO I DON'T IF I CAN SAY WHY I DON'T WANT TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION. SO THE FIRST THING IS JUST TIMING WISE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE UPDATED. AND AGAIN, ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE UPDATED THE RPP RULE SINCE 2011. RIGHT? AND WE HAVE THIS MEETING TO COMMENT ON IT, AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT COMING BACK AT LEAST FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. SO I DON'T WANNA SAY SOMETHING, GO STUDY AND CONSIDER IT BEFORE THE JUNE 11TH DEADLINE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GIVE US DATA. THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T SEE, AGAIN, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GIVING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS TRUE RPP, RIGHT? WHERE THEY CAN PARK ON THIS CURB WHENEVER, WHEREVER THEY WANT, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE BOUGHT THIS PASS. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE TREPIDATION THERE, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THERE COULD BE ANY POSSIBLE HARM TO GIVING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO BUY VISITORS PASSES. 'CAUSE THE, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WILL HAVE A SET AMOUNT AND THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHOEVER WANTS THEM GOES, SIGNS UP, BUYS THEM, AND THEN THEY CAN USE THEM. SO I DON'T SEE WHAT IF WE DON'T PUT THIS IN THERE. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE BELIEVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS PRIVILEGE, BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE THAT PRIVILEGE. SO TO GET AS TO WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE CREATING AN INHERENT INEQUITY. WE ARE GIVING A PRIVILEGE TO CERTAIN RESIDENTS, BUT NOT TO OTHER RESIDENTS ON THE SOLE BASIS THAT ONE OF THEM LIVES IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THE OTHER ONE LIVES IN A MULTI-FAMILY HOME. AND SO I THINK THAT'S WORTH RESOLVING. THE SECOND THING IS, I WOULD SAY, AS CHAIR SUMMERS POINTED OUT, I I DO THINK WE HAVE DATA THAT SUGGESTS RENTERS ARE EXTREMELY UNHAPPY WITH THE CURRENT PROCESS. SO I DO THINK WE'RE OBLIGATED TO CHANGE SOMETHING TO HELP RENTERS. AND I THINK VISITOR PASSES ARE A VERY REASONABLE STEP IN THAT RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE I THINK VISITOR PASSES GIVE YOU THE ABILITY FIVE TIMES PER EACH VISITOR PASS TO USE IT. YOU HAVE A LITTLE PUNCH HOLE THAT YOU HAVE TO PUNCH EACH TIME. MAYBE IT'S 10, I MIGHT BE WRONG. UM, RIGHT. BUT THAT IS A, A VERY SMALL BENEFIT WHEN YOU TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT THE MUCH LARGER BENEFIT OF RPP THAT WE ARE NOT SUGGESTING THAT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE. SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY SMALL STEP IN A DIRECTION OF HELPING RENTERS AND, AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS. UM, I THINK IT DOES SOLVE A PROBLEM, WHICH IS INHERENT INEQUITY AND PEOPLE WHO ARE OVERWHELMINGLY UPSET ABOUT THE CURRENT ITERATION OF THIS PROJECT. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM. SO I DON'T WANNA PUT MORE ONUS ON STAFF TO GO BACK AND STUDY THIS AND COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER ROUND OF, OF RULES. I'D RATHER JUST FIX THIS NOW AND TRUST THAT STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO MANAGE THE CURB. THEY HAVE THE TOOLS TO SET A LIMIT AND THEY CAN MAKE THE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD ON HOW TO MANAGE THAT CURB. OKAY. SO IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT? I'M HAPPY TO SECOND THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. I THINK WE GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER THAT LED US INTO DISCUSSING IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE OKAY THERE. UM, UH, AND HOPEFULLY COMMISSIONER SOREN CAN REJOIN US. , I FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THE CLERK'S GUIDANCE. UM, SO, UM, I THINK I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT, UM, TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE. AND WE COULD GET THIS IN WRITING, BUT IT'S BASICALLY, UM, TO CONSIDER THIS RATHER THAN TO JUST MAKE A FULL ON RECOMMENDATION TO DO IT, UM, OF THAT THIRD, BE IT RESOLVED WITH THE VISITOR PASSES FOR MULTIUNIT. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE. OKAY. AND THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE. OKAY. SO THAT DOES FAIL. UM, WHAT, UH, YES, WITH THE COUNT THERE. OKAY. SO IT'S, UH, WHAT IS IT? 1, 2, 3, 1 TO SIX. ONE TO SIX. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, WAS THERE FURTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE RECOMMENDATION? UH, YEAH, I HAD ONE MORE. UM, UH, PERHAPS IT'S A MOTION, UM, UH, REGARDING, UH, AND, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE OVER PARKED CURB, UH, UH, DEFINITION. UM, SO THE, THE, I'D LIKE TO MOTION THAT THE, UH, LANGUAGE AROUND REMOVING PROVISIONS IN SECTION ONE STATING THAT [01:20:01] THE PURPOSE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM IS IN PART TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO FIND AN OPEN PARKING SPOT, UH, AND REPLACE IT WITH LANGUAGE CLARIFYING THAT THE PURPOSE SHOULD BE TO REDUCE AN OVER PARKED CURB ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. UM, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD MOTION THAT WE REMOVE THAT PARTICULAR LANGUAGE. UM, AND, AND, AND I'LL, UH, CAN I MAKE MY CASE AS TO WHY? SO I, I JUST WILL REMIND YOU THAT THAT WAS AMENDED ALREADY. SO AN AMENDMENT DID PASS, WHICH CHANGED THAT I, I TOOK THAT OUT SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO, SO, UM, WE ONLY REMOVED THE FINAL EZ THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER. I NEEDED THAT. SO, UM, YES. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO STRIKE THAT? YES. OKAY. UH, AND, AND SO MY, MY RATIONALE FOR THAT IS, UM, STRIKE FROM WHERE TO WHERE THE ENTIRE BE IT FOR THE RESULT OR JUST THAT SENTENCE? I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT ENTIRE BE IT FOR THE RESULT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME TO JUST, UM, INCLUDE THAT, THAT SECTION LINGUISTICALLY. SO, UM, IT IS THAT ENTIRE, UH, BE IT, UH, RESOLVED, UH, REGARDING, UH, THE PROVISIONS IN SECTION ONE STATING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, UH, YEAH. SO DOES IT NEED A SECOND TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION? OR YOU CAN PRESENT YOUR PROPOSAL, UH, YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT, AND THEN IT NEEDS A SECOND TO CONTINUE FURTHER THE DISCUSSION AFTER THAT. GOT IT. YEAH. UM, UH, I, I MAKE THIS MOTION BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T THINK IT HELPS THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT OVER PARKED CURBS ARE. WHEREAS RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM IS KIND OF MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, OR MAKING IT EASIER TO FIND, UH, AN OPEN PARKING SPOT IS PERHAPS EASIER TO GROK FOR THE AVERAGE, UM, AUSTINITE. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? OKAY. MAY DIE FOR LACK OF SECOND IF NO ONE. SO I, I THINK I CAN OFFER A GOOD COMPROMISE HERE. OH, SORRY. I THINK I CAN OFFER A GOOD COMPROMISE HERE. YOU'RE GONNA OFFER A SUBSTITUTE. YEAH. WELL, I THINK WE CAN LET IT DIE AND THEN I'LL JUST YEAH. OFFER ANOTHER MOTION. GREAT. UM, SO I, I DO THINK IT'S STILL IMPORTANT FOR US TO SAY, I BELIEVE, I THINK THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT MAKING IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO FIND AN OPEN PARKING SPOT LEADS TO THIS CULTURE OF RESIDENTS FEELING LIKE THEY OWN THAT PARKING SPOT. I CAN EVEN TELL YOU IN MUELLER, WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM MANY TIMES WHERE, I'M SORRY, I'M PICKING ON MUELLER SO MUCH. IT'S JUST THAT I, I LIVED THERE, LIVE THERE, SEE IT. UM, BUT THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEM WHERE RESIDENTS PUT UP CONES TO MARK OUT THEIR RPP SPACE, WHICH IS NOT ANYWHERE IN THE RULES DOES IT SAY YOU CAN MARK OUT FROM A CONE TO CONE, THIS IS MY PERSONAL SPACE, BUT IT, IT LEADS TO THAT ATTITUDE. AND I THINK IF YOU READ THE COMMENTS, UM, THAT'S WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE PROGRAM. 'CAUSE IT CREATES THIS ENTITLEMENT THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN TO CREATE THAT, THAT THOSE RESIDENTS OWN THAT SPACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO I THINK WHAT I WOULD OFFER THE, THE TERM OVER PARK CURBS IS KIND OF A TECHNICAL TERM. SO I'M HAPPY TO, UM, CHANGE THAT. SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE LANGUAGE STARTING AT REDUCE. THIS IS IN THE FIR SECOND BEAT, RESOLVE, REDUCE AN OVER PARK CURB ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. AND I'M GOING TO SUBSTITUTE THAT TO REDUCE OVER PARKING ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. I THINK THAT'S A CONCEPT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND. IT BASICALLY MEANS THE SAME THING AS AN OVER PARK CURB. A CURB IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU PARK, WHAT IS, WHAT IS OVER PARKING ON A STREET. UH, WHEN YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE NO ONE CAN FIND A SPOT AND THERE'S NO TURNOVER AND, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A A, A STREET WHERE THERE'S, NOBODY CAN FIND A SPOT, NOBODY CAN PARK AND, AND NOBODY CAN FIND A, A PLACE TO PARK, THAT'S WHEN YOU LEAD TO CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE ARE, ARE BLOCKING A, A FIRE HYDRANT. PEOPLE ARE BLOCKING A, UH, UH, STOP SIGN. THAT'S WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE PULLING IN AND OUT, WHICH CREATES THOSE TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS THAT STOP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC. UH, AND THAT'S ALSO WHEN YOU START HAVING BLIND SPOTS FOR PEDESTRIANS WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T, UH, WE'RE NOT DAYLIGHTING. PEOPLE CAN'T SEE PEDESTRIANS MOVING BECAUSE THE CURB IS SO THOROUGHLY PARKED. UH, WOULD IT, UH, IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF, UH, KEEPING THE LANGUAGE TRANSPARENT FOR AUSTINITES, WOULD IT, UH, JUST A SUGGESTION. UM, SOMETHING LIKE, UH, MAKING IT EASIER FOR AUSTINITES TO FIND AN OPEN PARKING SPOT WHENEVER THEY NEEDED. I, I THINK AS OPPOSED TO RESIDENTS, I, I DON'T KNOW. I'M, I'M, I'M FOCUSED MORE ON THE, THE LAST LINE OF THIS DISPUTE FOR THE RESOLVED. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE CLEAREST, LIKE THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS AND PROPERTY AS WELL AS ENSURE SMOOTH AND EFFICIENT FLOW OF TRAFFIC MAYBE AND PARKING. BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE MISSING THE POINT OF I LIKE I HEAR YOU ON THE POINT BEING, PEOPLE SHOULD NOT FEEL ENTITLED TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT. AND SO RATHER THAN MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO PARK OR NOT PARK OR GET THEIR SPOT WHEN THEY WANT TO, IT'S RATHER MAKING SURE THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS [01:25:01] SAFE FOR EVERYBODY. YEAH. IN AND AROUND IT RESIDENT. I AGREE. SO I REALLY LIKE THIS BE IT RESOLVED AND WOULD HATE TO SEE IT GO BECAUSE I REALLY DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA THAT THE PURPOSE IS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO FIND AN OPEN PARKING SPOT. YEAH. JUST FULL TRANSPARENCY. LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND I'M DISCUSSING, I'M A TEAM PLAYER, BUT I'M LIKE, NOT EVEN REALLY SURE I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF AN RPP, SO LIKE EXISTING. SO, UM, IT'S ALL KIND OF LIKE, UH, SO I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT THE PURPOSE OF THEM IS FOR, FOR RESIDENTS OR IN LET'S SAY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS. 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE AS ELIGIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, NOT THE MULTIFAMILY. SO I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO REFRAME THAT. SO I REALLY LIKE THIS, BE IT RESOLVE EXISTING IN SOME FORM AS FAR AS HOW WE WANT THAT TO BE. I DO THINK THERE'S A PIECE THAT CLEARLY TPW IS THINKING ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY OF PARKING TO RESIDENTS. SO LIKE, UH, OR TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, LIKE WHERE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTING MORE HYBRID SOLUTIONS WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RPP AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PAID PARKING EXISTING IN THE SAME STREETS OR THE SAME ZONES. UM, SO THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FLEX THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY AND TURNOVER FOR EVERYONE. UM, I, I MEAN, LIKE, I THINK WITH THE, THE TALK OF A OVER PARKED CURB, I THINK YOU HIGHLIGHT IT REALLY WELL WITH THE DISADVANTAGES OF AN OVER PARKED CURB ARE, I HEAR A LOT FROM PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL RPP, THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THEY WANTED THE RPP IS BECAUSE IT MADE THEM DRIVE SLOWER ON THEIR STREET. AND I, I'M SORT OF LIKE, BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY CARS PARKED AND THEY HAD TO SORT OF NEGOTIATE THAT IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE, WHICH THEY WERE SORT OF REBELLING AGAINST. THEY WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE FASTER BECAUSE WITH LESS, FEWER STREETS PARKED ON THE CAR. SO I THINK THAT SOMETIMES LIKE STREET PARKING CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECT IF IT MAKES PEOPLE SORT OF SLOW DOWN AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT GONNA HIT SOMETHING. SO LIKE, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT MYSELF ON THAT LEVEL AND THAT OVER PARKING IS ALWAYS ENTIRELY BAD, YOU KNOW? SO WHAT ABOUT INSTEAD OF, UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. NO, YOU'RE FINE. THAT INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE NEGATIVE LANGUAGE THAT'S REDUCING OVER PARKING, WHY DON'T WE REPLACE THAT WITH INCREASED ACCESSIBILITY TO PARKING FOR RESIDENTS SUCH THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS AND PROPERTY AND ENSURING BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. SO HOW ABOUT THIS? LET'S SEE, I LIKE THAT. REPLACE IT WITH LANGUAGE CLARIFYING THAT THE PURPOSE SHOULD BE TO INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY TO PARKING AND AMENITIES FOR, FOR ALL RESIDENTS OR FOR ALL PEOPLE. I SO , STOP DRIVING EVERYBODY. WE WON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. I, I, I, I THINK I CAN GET US THERE, BUT I, I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT LANGUAGE. 'CAUSE I, I ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF RPP IS. YEAH, I HEAR YOU. THE REASON I STRUCTURE IT THIS WAY IS 'CAUSE I WANTED TO KEEP IT IN. I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE DIFFERENT RPP MEETINGS FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS VERY MUCH HOW STAFF TALKS ABOUT, AND I THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR IT. SO I WAS TRYING TO MATCH UP OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THOSE STAFF HAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. OKAY. SO ARE WE THE ONLY ONES CONFUSED BY THE TERM OVER PARKED? NO, I, I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER, IT'S A TECHNICAL TERM. THERE ARE PROBABLY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WHO'VE PROBLEMS WITH IT TOO. SO MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND I CAN, LET ME OFFER MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION, THEN I'LL TOSS OVER TO DANIEL. MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION WILL JUST BE TO STRIKE EVERYTHING AFTER, UH, THE END OF THE QUOTATION ON PARKING SPOT. SO STRIKE AND REPLACE IT WITH LANGUAGE CLARIFYING AND SO FORTH. SO WE JUST SAY MM-HMM . REMOVE THAT LANGUAGE AND WE'LL LEAVE IT TO STAFF TO DEFINE WHAT THE PURPOSE OF RPP IS. BECAUSE I THINK HONESTLY THE THREE OF US AND THE FOUR OF US REALLY HAVE ALL DESCRIBED DIFFERENT PURPOSES OF WHAT RPP SHOULD BE. AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. THERE'S PROBABLY A WEALTH OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHAT RPP SHOULD BE, BUT PERHAPS THAT MEANS WE SHOULDN'T BE THE ONES ENUMERATING THE PURPOSE. I'LL, I'LL THROW IT TO DEAN. UM, JUST FOR A QUICK TEMPERATURE CHECK. UM, I'M PROBABLY, I AM FINE WITH THIS LANGUAGE. I DON'T REALLY LIKE RPP AT ALL. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST MEET HER AT ALL. SO IN TERMS OF HOW WE LIKE DESCRIBE IT ON A NICHE LITTLE WEBSITE WITHIN THE CITY OR THE DIRECTOR'S RULES, I'M NOT SURE IT'S GONNA MAKE THE HUGE DIFFERENCE TO PUBLIC PERCEPTION THAT INVOLVES THE MARKETING OF THE T-P-W-P-I-O TEAM. I'M PROBABLY NOT GONNA VOTE FOR ANYTHING THAT CHANGES THIS. I THINK IT'S FINE. YEAH. SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHERE WE ARE WITH THE, THE COMMISSION AND THE NUMBER OF VOTES NEEDED FOR THIS AMENDMENT, BUT JUST, JUST A TEMPERATURE CHECK HERE. YEAH, I I'M ACTUALLY FINE KEEPING IT AS IS QUITE HONESTLY. I, I WOULD SAY, UM, MY CONCERN ABOUT THE PURPOSE IS LIKE REALLY MORE FOR LIKE FUTURE TPW STAFF IN 10 YEARS. AND THEY GO BACK AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM? AND THEY GO BACK AND LOOK. AND WHEN YOU SAY IT'S MAKING IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO FIND AN OPEN PARKING SPOT, THEN THAT SHOULD CHANGE HOW YOUR STAFF BEHAVES. RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, REALLY IMPORTANT TO STRIKE THAT. UM, I'M FINE LEAVING IT IN THE ORIGINAL FORMAT QUITE HONESTLY AS WELL. SO WHAT'S THE MOTION RIGHT NOW? I MOVE TO, I'LL KEEP MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION [01:30:01] UP THERE IF ANYONE WANTS A SECOND. WHAT WAS THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION? YEAH, CAN YOU WALK US THAT? THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WOULD BE TO STRIKE EVERYTHING AFTER, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO FIND AN OPEN PARKING SPOT END RIGHT THERE. SO THERE'S NO LANGUAGE ABOUT REPLACING THE LANGUAGE. WE'RE JUST SAYING REMOVE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE SHOULD BE. WE CAN LEAVE IT TO THE WONDERFUL STAFF AT TPW TO FIND A GREAT DEFINITION, UH, THAT IS WELL THOUGHT OUT THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THE PURPOSE OF RPP SHOULD BE. OKAY. DO WE, WE HAVE NOT TAKEN A SECOND ON THAT. DO WE HAVE NOT TAKEN A SECOND? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SECOND THAT? OKAY. IF THERE'S A LACK OF THE SECOND, THEN I'M GONNA WITHDRAW MY PREVIOUS MOTION AS WELL. SO THERE'S NO AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE. OKAY. SO WE'RE BACK TO THE, THE ORIGINAL DRAFT LANGUAGE. UM, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR AMENDMENTS TO THIS ITEM? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER JACOBSON. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UH, UM, MOVE FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAST, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, UH, AND WOULD LOVE SOME FEEDBACK ON LIKE THE RIGHT WAY TO, TO PHRASE THIS. I, I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS LIKE NAMES SPECIFICALLY AS FOLKS THAT COULD LIKE A WHOLE LIKE NON-RESIDENT PERMIT HOLDER. LIKE, I'M NOT SEEING THAT IN THE CURRENT RULES. AND I'M HAVING, I'M, I WORK SPECIFICALLY NEXT TO ZILKER AND I, THERE'S NO, I LOVE THE HYBRID PROGRAM FOR DOWNTOWN WORKERS, BUT I DON'T, I'M NOT HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THAT GROUP, THIS CLASS OF PEOPLE NOT BEING INCLUDED IN HERE. YEAH, I DO WANNA SEE THAT. AND I HOPE, I HOPE THIS PIGGY PACKS OFF OUR FIRST BE AS IT RESOLVED FOR THE GREATER, WHEN THEY SEE THESE RULES, THEY SEE IT'S NOT FOR YOU, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY. BUT WE RESPECT THAT YOU LIVE CLOSE BY. WE WANT TO TIP OUR HATS TO YOU. LIKE, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S THIS OTHER PROTECTED CLASS IN THESE RULES THAT THEY HAVE MEANS TO QUALIFY FOR THESE PERMITS BEYOND JUST THE HYBRID PARKING. 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW HYBRID PARKING WOULD APPLY TO WORKING, YOU KNOW, NEAR ZILKER OR BAR, LIKE THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT AFFECTS, WELL, IT'S KIND OF, THERE'S SOME TEMPORARY ONES THAT HAVE BEEN ON 11TH STREET AS WELL. UM, AND I WANNA RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORS. LIKE I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, HOW DO WE, SO ANYWAYS, I MOVE THAT WE ADD, UH, THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER PROTECTED CLASS IN OTHER, UM, UH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE, A DEED TO A PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, WITH THESE, SOME OF THESE MULTI-FAMILY, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE RENTER'S INSURANCE. HOW ARE YOU GONNA PROVE THAT YOU, LIKE, I, I KIND OF WANNA SEE THAT IN THESE RULES. SO I'D LOVE FEEDBACK IF WE CAN DIAL IN THE LANGUAGE, BUT I WANNA, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HYBRID PARKING? SO, SO HYBRID PARKING IS WHERE YOU HAVE BOTH RPP AND A PAID METERED PARKING. SO LIKE, MAYBE RIGHT NOW THEY TEND TO BE SEPARATE AND EXCEPT IN A FEW AREAS WHERE WE HAVE EITHER A PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICT OR PARKING TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AND THOSE AREAS WOULD BE LIKE WEST CAMPUS MUELLER, SOUTH CONGRESS. AND THERE'S AN AREA ALSO OF OFF EAST AND EAST AUSTIN THAT HAS, UH, A PARKING TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT DISTRICT NOW WHERE YOU MAY SEE SOME COMBINATION, A HYBRID OPTION, BUT GENERALLY IT'S REALLY EITHER OR. SO YOU EITHER HAVE METERED PAID PARKING, YOU KNOW, NOWADAYS IT'S LIKE YOU JUST SCAN THE QR CODE AND GO AND YOU PAY YOUR PARKING ON THE APP. YEAH. UM, OR AN, UH, LIKE THAT'S ON THE STREET. OR YOU HAVE RPP ON THE STREET, NOT BOTH. AND SO THE IDEA IS THAT HYBRID, THEY'RE GOING TO GRADUALLY MOVE TO A SITUATION WHERE MAYBE RESIDENTS CAN PARK THERE FOR FREE. BUT IF I'M NOT A RESIDENT, THEN I'M SCANNING THE QR CODE AND DOING THAT. OKAY. SO THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE PLACES WHERE YOU COULD DO EITHER OR OF THOSE. OKAY. I JUST WANT SOMETHING FOR, FOR HABITUAL WORKERS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE YEAR AFTER YEAR, MONTH AFTER MONTH, MORE THAN JUST LIKE A VISITOR PERMIT OR SOME REDUCED RATE PARKING, YOU KNOW, ON, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPELL OUT THE RULES, BUT I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS CLASS OF PEOPLE ARE INCLUDED IN THESE RULES. 'CAUSE LIKE IT'S A COMMUNITY ASSET AND EVERYONE SHOULD BE BENEFITING FROM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE RESTRICTING THIS, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. YEAH. I JUST, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING. DID THEY REVIEW THE EFFECTS? I I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S HERE. LIKE, I LIKE ALL OF THIS. I JUST, I WANT JUST SEE THIS CLASS OF PEOPLE INCLUDED IN THE RULES. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, YOU WANT IT EVEN STRONGER. I WANT IT STRONGER. YEAH. I, I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT LIKE BUSINESS OWNERS, WORKERS, LIKE WE SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE REALLY VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS WHAT THEY ARE LIKE, AND I, IT'S JUST NOT HERE. THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. I, I THINK HYBRID IS, IS WONDERFUL. IT'S GOOD. THAT'S GREAT. BUT IT WORKS FOR A SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK IT WORKS FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IF THEY'RE NOT A PROTECTED CLASS IN HERE THEN, OR LIKE A MENTIONED GROUP OF PEOPLE, UM, THAT I'M JUST, I I FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT SERVING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO PARTICIPATE OR VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT, IT AFFECTS PEOPLE'S LIVES. I KNOW. WHAT LANGUAGE WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN THIS BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED? THE RE EFFECTS WERE NOT, I WOULD ACTUALLY MAYBE SAY, MAYBE WE JUST ADD, UH, ANOTHER BE IT RESOLVED MAYBE BEFORE THIS ONE. SO SAY SOMETHING LIKE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. THE UTC RECOMMENDS THAT TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC [01:35:01] WORKS ADD, UM, OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES OF CULTURAL VENUES AS, UH, INTERESTED PARTIES IN THE, UH, ESTABLISHMENT OF RPPS. YES. PERFECT. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? SO THAT, AND THEN, THEN IT WOULD GO INTO THEN BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED. WE RECOMMEND THAT THEY LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS. UH, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I ALSO CON UH, CONTEMPLATED EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE, UH, YOU WERE PROPOSING AND, AND IN SECTION 10 D WHERE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO STUDY, UH, THE, UH, UH, THE 10 D OF THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DRAFT PROPOSAL, UM, OR NOT THE DRAFT PROPOSAL, SORRY. THE, UH, THE DIRECTOR'S, UH, UH, UM, UH, THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, UH, THE RPP LEGISLATION, WHATEVER IT IS, UM, IN SECTION 10 D THEY TALK ABOUT THE, THE PROCESS BY WHICH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER STUDIES, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RPP WILL BE ROLLED OUT TO. UM, AND I WONDER IF WE COULD ALSO, UM, RECOMMEND THAT THEY, UH, INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES OR, OR CULTURAL VENUES, UM, UH, WHOSE, UH, EMPLOYEES OR PATRONS, UH, OVERFLOW INTO THOSE ZONES AS WELL. SO LIKE IT'S, IT'S CAUGHT ON THE FRONT END OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RPP WHEN IT'S ROLLED OUT TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. SO I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO CRAFT THAT IN WHAT YOU JUST SAID. YEAH. CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID ACTUALLY SO I CAN THAT'S ALWAYS THE TRICK. UM, BE, SO THIS WOULD BE A BE IT FURTHER RESOLVE THAT WE WOULD ADD AS A NEXT TO LAST. YEAH. SO BEFORE THE VERY LAST ONE THAT WE HAVE NOW, AND IT SAYS, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE UTC RECOMMEND THAT TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, UM, ADD OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES OF ADJACENT CULTURAL VENUES AS INTERESTED PARTIES IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RPPS. AND THEN IF WE WANNA REFERENCE SOME LINE OF THE PROPOSED RULES, WE COULD, Y'ALL CAN HELP ME INSERT THAT, BUT, AND COMMISSIONER PADE, YOU YOU WANT TO ADD, DID YOU SAY BUSINESSES AS WELL AS CULTURAL VENUES? YEAH. TO, TO JUSTIN'S. UM, YEAH. I DON'T WE HAVE TO LIMIT IT TO JUSTIN'S POINT, LIKE BUSINESSES AS WELL AS CULTURAL VENUES AND, AND, AND YEAH. IF, IF THEY DO IT, UH, DURING THE, UH, ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RPP IN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER PHASE, THAT'S EVEN BETTER. YOGA STUDIOS. YOGA STUDIOS ALWAYS SEEM TO HAVE PARKING FIGHTS. HAVE Y'ALL NOTICED THIS? THIS IS A WHOLE THING. IT'S A WHOLE THING. . OKAY. WHAT I HAVE TYPED IS BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE UTC RECOMMENDS THAT TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORK AT OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES OF ADJACENT CULTURAL VENUES AND BUSINESSES AS INTERESTED PARTIES IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM ZONES. I BELIEVE THAT'S YOUR MOTION. IT'S HIS MOTION. IT'S . YES. UH, CAN YOU JUST READ THAT ONE MORE TIME? BE A FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE UTC RECOMMENDS THAT TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS ADD OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES OF ADJACENT CULTURAL VENUES AND BUSINESSES AS INTERESTED PARTIES IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM ZONES? SURE. YEAH. OH, WE, I WANNA SAY SOMETHING. I WAS YEAH, THAT, THAT LOOKS GOOD. I AM JUST WANTING TO SAY THEY'RE THERE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT AND SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF LIKE ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THESE AMENITIES LIKE ONCE ESTABLISHED. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TRY THIS ONE MORE TIME. BE OF FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THE UTC RECOMMENDS THAT TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS AT OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES OF ADJACENT CULTURAL VENUES AND BUSINESSES AS INTERESTED PARTIES IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM ZONES, ENSURING THEY MAINTAIN ACCESS UPON THE ZONES ESTABLISHMENT. BEAUTIFUL. GREAT. I WILL SECOND THAT BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE IT. . ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT? NO, WE KIND OF ALREADY DID DISCUSS IT SOME QUITE A BIT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THAT AMENDMENT. ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THAT AT, TO ADD THAT, BE IT RESOLVED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE LOOKS LIKE THAT'S UNANIMOUS OF THOSE. NO, IT IS NOT UNANIMOUS OF THOSE PRESENT. OKAY. WE HAVE, UH, THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY. WE HAVE SIX TO ONE SEVEN, I THINK SE SEVEN. OH YES. 'CAUSE YES. OKAY, GREAT. COUNTING IS HARD. UM, GREAT. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR FURTHER AMENDMENTS? I THINK WE ARE READY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS RECOMMENDATION AND STAFF. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGING, SO WE WILL, I, [01:40:01] I HAVE THAT ALL. WE WILL GET THAT TO YOU. OKAY. UM, GREAT. SO LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THIS RECOMMENDATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION OF THE RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE. GREAT. THAT IS UNANIMOUS OF THOSE PRESENT, THOSE OPPOSED? NO, NO ONE. OKAY. GREAT. GOOD JOB TEAM. YES. IF, IF I COULD JUST HAVE JUST MAYBE A MINUTE OR TWO JUST TO KIND OF COVER, WELL I'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. UM, JIM DALE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS, IT'S SO HARD NOT TO INTERJECT. UM, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR ROLE, UM, UNLESS WE'RE ASKED A QUESTION. UM, BECAUSE THAT, THAT PROCESS THAT Y'ALL GO THROUGH IN WORKING OUT THE WORDING OF THINGS HELPS IT MAKE IT CLEAR TO US WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. AND IT'S NOT ONE OF Y'ALL GIVING THAT, IT'S A WHOLE BODY. AND SO WE LIKE THAT FOR THAT PROCESS TO WORK OUT. AND WHEN Y'ALL ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. BUT THE, UM, SO THE, I WANT TO MAYBE PUT Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT AT EASE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS KIND OF CAPTURES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THAT WE LISTEN TO THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL DIRECT US. THIS GOES TO SEE A COUNCIL. IT MAY OR MAY NOT COME TO US AS DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT WE STILL LISTEN TO THIS. AND THIS SHOULD BE PART OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO THE DIRECTOR'S RULES SO THAT THERE'S, THAT AT LEAST THEY GET IN THERE. UM, BUT I, WHAT IT'S GONNA END UP LOOKING LIKE IS EACH LOCATION'S GONNA BE UNIQUE AND PROVIDING THAT BALANCE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT NEEDS THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE THE, AND FOR THE SAFETY AS WELL THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED IN TRAFFIC FLOW AND FIGURING THAT OUT. SO JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST LET YOU KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE LISTENING AND THERE IS THAT BALANCE, SAY EACH LOCATION AND WE'LL BE TAKEN INTO, DEFINITELY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHAT Y'ALL ARE SHARING WITH US TODAY. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. AND IT'S REALLY A, A REALLY BIG CHANGE, UM, IN THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BACK 10 YEARS AGO IT REALLY WAS ABOUT CLEARING EVERYBODY ELSE OFF THE STREET EXCEPT SINGLE FAMILY, HOME OWNERS, , YOU KNOW. SO, UM, I THINK WE'VE MADE A TON OF PROGRESS ON THIS AS A CITY AND COMMUNITY AND I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CHANGES. I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE IMPROVING WHAT WE HAVE AND OFFERING MORE FLEXIBILITY AND HOPEFULLY GIVING MORE PEOPLE ACCESS, WHICH REALLY IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT. SO THANK YOU. AND IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY, THE REASON WHY I ALWAYS SAY PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS BECAUSE THERE IS, UH, NO ONE I'D RATHER HEAR FROM IN A TRANSPORTATION DISCUSSION THAN JIM DALE. SO , FEEL FREE TO ALWAYS INTERRUPT ME AND CORRECT ME. YES. THAT'S WAY TOO MUCH WEIGHT ON MY SHOULDERS, . GREAT. OKAY, SO WE'RE NEAR THE END OF OUR AGENDA FOLKS. SO WE'RE, UH, AT ITEM FIVE, [5. Discussion and possible action regarding an appointment to the Joint Sustainability Committee (one vacancy). ] WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. SO THIS IS, UM, UH, CITY COUNCIL INFINITE WISDOM HAS ESTABLISHED COMMITTEES THAT ARE COMPOSED OF OTHER COMMITTEES. SO, UM, REALLY FUN FOR US. SO THERE'S, UH, SOMETHING CALLED THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A COMMITTEE OF COMMITTEES. SO BASICALLY IT'S COMPOSED OF OTHER COMMISSION BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINT A MEMBER TO ATTEND YET ANOTHER MONTHLY MEETING, UM, TO HELP WITH OUR CITY'S SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS. AND UTC DOES HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE IN LIGHT OF THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION CHOICE AND TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT DO PLAY IN SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE. AND SO, UM, WE HAD, UH, ONE OF OUR PRIOR UTC MEMBERS WHO JUST ROLLED OFF OF HER TERM SHOWING IN THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE FOR QUITE A LONG TERM AND SHE WAS, I BELIEVE ACTUALLY VICE CHAIR AND VERY ACTIVE ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND NOW THERE IS A VACANCY, SO WE DO NEED TO FILL THIS VACANCY. UM, SO THE COMMITMENT WOULD BE MINIMALLY, UM, TO ATTEND THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE MEETINGS MONTHLY. AND I'LL LOOK UP WHEN THOSE ARE. AND UM, UH, AND THEN YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ANSWER EMAILS AND THEN IF YOU KNOW THE WORKLOAD OF THIS COMMISSION, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR, LIKE YOU CAN DO MORE OR LESS ON UTC, RIGHT? YOU CAN BE WRITING RECOMMENDATIONS EVERY MONTH THAT YOU CAN BE TAKING AN OFFICER ROLE OR YOU CAN BE JUST SORT OF SITTING BACK ATTENDING THE MEETINGS AND OFFERING FEEDBACK AND PARTICIPATING A LITTLE BIT MORE MINI MINIMALLY. SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION JUST FOR AWARENESS MEETS THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT CITY HALL AT 6:00 PM AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE MEETING TIME. UM, CERTAINLY THERE COULD BE WORKING GROUPS OR OTHER THINGS I'M NOT AWARE OF. UM, BUT UM, WE DO NEED TO FILL THIS VACANCY PRETTY RAPIDLY. AND WE ALSO REALLY, THEY'VE ASKED US TO ALSO CHOOSE AN ALTERNATE. I HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY THE ALTERNATE, BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN GOING TO THE MEETING SINCE COMMISSIONER WHEELER ROLLED OFF, SO I'M PROBABLY A BAD ALTERNATE. I DIDN'T REALLY WANNA BE ALTERNATE SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY APPOINT BOTH A COMMITTEE MEMBER AND AN ALTERNATE. I KNOW IT COULD BE A, A BIG COMMITMENT TO FILL [01:45:01] THIS ROLE, BUT I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO IF WE CAN'T DO IT AT THIS MEETING, WE REALLY, REALLY NEED SOMEONE TO FILL THIS ROLE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT UTC IS REPRESENTED AND CITY CODE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE REPRESENTED. SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY MIGHT BE INTERESTED. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A FEW TIMES AND WE WERE GONNA WAIT TILL OUR COMMISSION GREW A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH SOME APPOINTMENTS TO SEE IF SOMEBODY MIGHT BE INTERESTED. IS THERE ANY INTEREST FROM THE COMMISSIONERS YOU'RE INTERESTED? THAT'S AMAZING. I WILL, I WILL MOVE TO COMMI APPOINT COMMISSIONER PRASAD AS OUR APPOINTEE TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. SECOND. GREAT. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT. YAY. YAY SUCCESS. OKAY, SO LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. ALL IN FAVOR OF PR APPOINTING COMMISSIONER PRASAD AS OUR APPOINTEE TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. OKAY, GREAT. THAT IS UNANIMOUS OF THOSE PRESENT. UM, IS ANYONE INTERESTED? IS SERVING AS ALTERNATE. GREAT. AMAZING. I LOVE THIS. OKAY, SO I WILL SECOND THAT. SO, OR YOU I WILL MOVE TO APPOINT YOU. LET ME, SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT THERE WAS ALSO A HAND RAISE. OH, THERE'S AN, OH. OH MY GOODNESS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WE HAVE TWO OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE ALTERNATE ROLE. DO Y'ALL WANNA TALK IT OUT? WAS ME, BUT I'M HAPPY AS I'M A NEWBIE TO THIS COMMISSION. I'M HAPPY TO SEE TO UM, THE OTHER COMMISSIONER. ARE YOU? YEAH. INTERESTED. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. I WILL MOVE TO APPOINT, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOBSON AS THE ALTERNATE. SO BASICALLY YOU WOULD ATTEND, IF COMMISSIONER PRASAD CANNOT ATTEND, HE SHOULD TELL YOU AND THEN YOU COULD ATTEND IN HIS STEAD BECAUSE THIS COMMITTEE IS A FRANKENSTEIN COMMITTEE OF COMMITTEES HAS, UH, HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH QUORUM AT TIMES. SO THIS IS TO TRY TO HELP THEM MAKE QUORUM. SO, UM, I WILL MOVE TO APPOINT YOU AS THE ALTERNATE. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? UH, SECOND. GREAT. UM, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING COMMISSIONER JACOBSON AS OUR ALTERNATE APPOINTEE TO JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY I THAT IS UNANIMOUS OF THOSE APPROVED. THAT'S GREAT. SO WE WILL DEFINITELY SUBMIT YOUR NAMES TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. ANDREA, I MIGHT NEED YOUR, YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH THAT OR WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. AND SO THEN YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION TO START ATTENDING THE MEETINGS. BUT OF COURSE YOU CAN REVIEW ALL THE COMMITTEE INFORMATION AGENDAS, APPROVED MINUTES AND SO ON ONLINE ALSO WITH THAT COMMISSIONER PRASAD, WE, EVERY MONTH WE DO HAVE COMMITTEE UPDATES AND SO YOU WILL BE ADDED AS AN ITEM TO THAT TO GIVE A MONTHLY COMMITTEE UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENED AT THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT THEY DO A LOT, THEY DO A DECENT AMOUNT WITH TRANSPORTATION OVER THERE. SO THEY MAY HAVE SOME TRANSPORTATION ISSUES THAT ARISE THERE, THAT BUBBLE UP THAT YOU CAN BRING TO US AND THEN WE WANT ON OUR AGENDA. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH FLOW WITH THAT SOMETIMES, SO THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. AMAZING. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT TAKES US [6. Update from Commissioner Schumacher from the Downtown Commission regarding actions taken at the May 21, 2025, meeting.] RIGHT INTO OUR COMMITTEE UPDATES. SO UPDATE FROM COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER FROM THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION REGARDING THE, UH, ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE MAY 21ST, 2025 MEETING. NO ACTIONS TAKEN. TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST. UM, WELL ONE WE ALREADY GOT, WHICH WAS THE MICRO MOBILITY ONE, BUT UH, ALSO AN UPDATE ON THE SAFER SIXTH STREET INITIATIVE, WHICH WE MAY ALSO WANNA ADD AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM LEADER. OKAY, GREAT. THAT TAKES US TO ITEM SEVEN, [7. Update from Commissioner Schumacher and Commissioner Kavelman from the Bicycle Advisory Council and the Pedestrian Advisory Council regarding actions taken at the joint May 5, 2025, meeting.] WHICH IS UPDATE FROM COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER AND COMMISSIONER KAMAN FROM THE BICYCLE ADVISORY AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE JOINT MAY 5TH, 2025 MEETING. I THINK WE GAVE THAT LAST TIME. HOLD ON. DID YOU? YEAH, I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID. YES. 'CAUSE IT WAS THE PA YEAH, THIS WOULD BE, WAS THERE A MEETING SINCE THEN? NO, NOT FOR US, BUT I THINK THERE HAS BEEN FOR YOU, BUT IF WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR IT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN. WE CAN'T, WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR IT. SO, SORRY. THE CLERK HAS GOTTEN REALLY OVER THE TOP ABOUT THE COMMITTEE UPDATES. SO ONE, ONE THING I DID WANNA MENTION, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE GERMANE TO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, COMM COMMISSIONER BUFFO IS ALSO ON THE BAC. IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OVER THE BAC UPDATES BECAUSE I HAVE LIKE HALF OF THEM RIGHT NOW, I'M HAPPY TO YIELD THAT, THAT OVER TO YOU. YEP. I FEEL COMPLETELY INDIFFERENT ON THE MATTER. THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SEEM TO MAKE SENSE TO ME. OKAY. IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, WE CAN UPDATE THAT WEEKLY, MONTHLY. SURE. SO I'M DOING ALL OF THEM OR DOING HALF OF THEM. JUST YOUR BAC. JUST B-A-C-B-A-C. NORMALLY THEY WOULD BE TWO. OH YOU MEANT LIKE YOU'RE DOING HALF TWO ITEMS IN THE AGENDA, BUT THEY HAD A JOINT MEETING AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS, WHAT WAS THAT WAS THE SAME THAT WAS LISTED ON OUR LAST, 'CAUSE THIS WAS BEFORE OUR MAY MEETING, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO WE'RE A LITTLE BACKWARDS SO WE CAN'T GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE MEETING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT. WE CAN DO THAT. MAYBE WE CAN CATCH UP NEXT MONTH ON TWO MEETINGS. ANDRE, COULD WE DO THAT? UM, UM, BUT I THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE, UH, TO GIVE THAT TO COMMISSIONER BUFFO JUST TO KIND OF SURE. SHARE [01:50:01] THE LOVE. UM, ALL RIGHT. UH, NEXT ONE IS UPDATES [8. Update from Chair Somers from the City Council Mobility Committee regarding actions taken at the May 15, 2025, meeting. ] FROM ME ON THE CITY COUNCIL MOBILITY COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, UH, FROM MAY 15TH, 2025 MEETING. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I TYPICALLY DO ATTEND THE MAY, UH, THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, TO GIVE PRESENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM UTC. SO I DID ATTEND AND I SHARED WITH THEM, UM, OUR RECENT RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, THEY DID RECEIVE, RECEIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE STATUS OF THE 2012 THROUGH 2020 MOBILITY BONDS. I DO THINK THAT MAY BE USEFUL FOR COMMISSIONERS TO WATCH. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND SORT OF WATCH DOGGING ON AND SOMETHING WE PROBABLY REALLY SHOULD ASK FOR CONTINUED STUDY AND POSTMORTEM ON ON SOME OF THOSE. BUT, UM, I THINK THAT Y'ALL SHOULD, SHOULD CHECK THAT OUT. UM, THEY HAD A BRIEFING ON THE STATUS OF MOBILITY GRANTS, BRIEFING ON THE CAP METRO BIKE SHARE PROGRAM EXPANSION, WHICH MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FUTURE ITEMS TOO. I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY. AND THEN, UM, UPDATES ON CONSTRUCTION AND SERVICE UPDATES, UM, FROM JIM DALE AND, UH, THEIR ANNUAL REPORT FROM TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS AND, UM, SOME RIGHT OF WAY VACATION CAP AND STITCH. THEY HAD A BUSY AGENDA AND THEN THEY HAD, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS. STREET IMPACT FEE STATUS MEMO, SIXTH STREET PILOT. I'M ACTUALLY REALLY WANNA GO WATCH THIS MEETING. THIS IS AMAZING. , I, I LIKE WAS THERE FOR LIKE A FEW MINUTES. UM, SO THERE WAS A MEETING MEETING LAST LAST MONTH. SO I THINK THAT IF YOU LIKE WATCHING TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS IN YOUR SPARE TIME, WHICH ACTUALLY I DO 'CAUSE I'M JUST THAT WAY. YOU MIGHT CHECK IT OUT. SO THAT IS, UM, ITEM UM, EIGHT. I'LL NOW TAKE THIS INTO ITEM [9. Update from Chair Somers from the Community Advisory Committee for Austin Transit Partnership Board regarding actions taken at the May 8, 2025, meeting. ] NINE, WHICH IS UPDATE FROM THE UH, COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP. UM, MEETING FROM THE MAY 8TH, 2025 MEETING. I WAS UNABLE TO FULLY ATTEND THIS MEETING AS I WAS, UM, ATTENDING A CHILD SCHOOL PERFORMANCE, BUT WE DID HAVE OFFICER ELECTIONS. I WAS ELECTED VICE CHAIR. UM, YEAH. UM, AND THEN UM, WE HAD UM, ETOD UPDATES THAT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IN THIS BODY, UM, AS WELL. UM, AND THERE WAS I THINK SOMETHING THAT OUR GROUP WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN WATCHING. THEY HAD AN UPDATE FROM THE CAT METRO EAST FIFTH RAILS AND TRAILS PROJECT. AND I KNOW URBAN TRAILS HAVE BEEN OF KEEN INTEREST TO OUR GROUP, SO YOU MAY REALLY WANNA WATCH THAT. AND, UM, THAT'S REALLY, UM, THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT THEY HAD ON THEIR AGENDA. OKAY. WITH THAT, IT TAKES US IN, WE'RE DONE WITH OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND WE GO INTO [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ] DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'M GONNA, UM, UH, MESSAGE SOME OF THESE. UM, UH, HERE WE HAVE, UM, SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME THINGS FROM THE PAST. WE HAD A, UM, LIVING STREETS AND SHARED STREETS. I KNOW THAT GOT POSTPONED BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME THINGS WITH THAT PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT. I KNOW THAT GOT, THAT WAS GONNA BE ON OUR AGENDA, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WILL BE ON FOR THE JULY. YOU COULD SEE. OKAY. JULY. UM, VISION AND ZERO AND DISTRACTED DRIVING. WE HEARD THIS TIME CITY LEAP GOT, WAS GONNA BE ON OUR AGENDA, BUT I THINK THAT'S GETTING POSTPONED TO JULY. SO WE, UM, WE HAD MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON CITY LEAP PRIOR, SO THAT'S THE STAFF STUDY OF THAT. UM, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH, UM, WE'LL HAVE NEXT MONTH WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE OUR ANNUAL REPORT. I'LL PREPARE THAT FOR A REVIEW, THE DRAFT ANNUAL REPORT AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THAT IN JULY. UM, AND WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT. UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION OF THE 180 3 NORTH MOBILITY PROJECT FROM C-T-R-M-A THAT WE'RE HOPING TO MAYBE GET SOMEONE OUT MAYBE JULY. MAYBE AUGUST. I MEAN, WHENEVER THEY CAN COME I THINK WOULD BE GOOD. WE HAVE, UM, I THINK I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING THAT CAME UP TODAY, WHICH IS TXDOT SAFETY PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION. IF WE COULD GET THE STAFF OUT TO SPEAK ON THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY OKAY BECAUSE I THINK THE VISION ZERO DISCUSSION REALLY SHOWED US TODAY THAT THEY DO FEEL THAT A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE ON THE ARTERIALS THAT ARE IN TXDOT RIGHT OF WAY, BUT A LOT OF MAYBE CHALLENGES STILL IN FRONTAGE ROADS AND FREEWAYS. SO, UM, AND I PERSONALLY, WELL YOU HEARD ME EARLIER, I, I REALLY FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS WITH I 35, SO, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO ADD. WE ALSO HAVE THE, UM, NATO LANE SIZE WIDTH. WE'VE KIND OF BEEN PUNTING THAT ALONG. MAYBE WE, I I WILL CON I WILL COMMIT TO GETTING THAT DONE FOR OUR JULY MEETING. OKAY. AFTER FIVE MONTHS OF, OF PUSHING IT DOWN. OKAY, LET'S DO THAT FOR JULY. I HAVE MY SAFE ROUTE TO PARKS IDEA. I THINK I'M GONNA TRY TO QUEUE THAT UP FOR AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. UM, THE TOUR OF TPW DIVISIONS WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. [01:55:01] I HAVE ASKED AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE. JULY MAY BE GETTING PRETTY FULL IF WE ACTUALLY ARE ABLE TO DELIVER ALL THESE OTHER PRESENTATIONS. BUT MAYBE THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR AUGUST. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION PROCESS AND UM, EDUCATION BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SO MANY OF THOSE THAT COME UP AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHY DO WE REVIEW THESE? HOW DO WE DETERMINE, WE HAD SOME INTERESTING ONES THAT, THAT FILTERED THROUGH A FEW MONTHS BACK. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO, TO GET US UPDATE FROM STAFF ABOUT WHY, HOW, WHAT FOR ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATIONS AND SORT OF EDUCATE US, RIGHT, RIGHT OF WAY. VACATION 1 0 1 MAYBE. UM, SO I'M GONNA REQUEST THAT TO BE THE FIRST OF THOSE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US. CAN CAN I ADD THAT MAYBE WE MAKE THAT A DISCUSSION ITEM SO WE COULD DISCUSS IF WE WANNA SET UP A PROCESS IN OUR BYLAWS SIMILAR LIKE HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION ZAP HAVE FOR CONTENTIOUS ONES WHERE THERE ARE FOR AND AGAINST. SO WE HAVE A PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THAT IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN. SURE. SO A DISCUSSION, NOT ACTION, BUT JUST A DISCUSSION ITEM. YEAH, JUST DISCUSSION. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IF THOSE ARE CHANGES. NOT A BRIEFING BUT A DISCUSSION. YES, EXACTLY. OKAY. GOT YOU. UM, AND THEN PROCESS IMPROVEMENT FOR IMPLEMENTING BOND PROJECTS. THAT MIGHT BE A LONGER TERM FOR THE FALL, BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE STILL NEED TO DO. AND THEN WE'VE DONE OUR JOINT SUSTAINABILITY. I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST FROM LAST MONTH. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THAT I HAVEN'T CAPTURED THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE? ESPECIALLY, I THINK I'VE SAID JULY IS PRETTY FULL. YOU HAD THE, WHAT WAS IT? I'M STILL THE, IT'S THE CAP METRO 2035. I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT ON OUR RADAR FOR WHENEVER WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO WHEN THAT SHOULD BE POPPING UP. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S JULY, MAYBE IT'S AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT. I, I FEEL THAT, I FEEL LIKE IT'S BECOMING ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT IT'S LIKE WE'RE WAITING, WE'RE WAITING, WE'RE WAITING AND THEN SUDDENLY WE'RE, IT'S GONNA LIKE BE TOO LATE. , YOU EVER EXPERIENCED THAT IN CITY POLICY MATTERS, BUT, UM, YES. CAP METRO 2035. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAD ONE EARLIER. CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN? UM, IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING WITH TRAILS, THEY'LL COME TO US. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER ITEMS, AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ON OUR AGENDA SPECIFICALLY? ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR JULY, AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO SORT OF PUT IN OUR DOC. OKAY, GREAT. I THINK WE'VE RECAPPED THAT. ALRIGHT. SORRY, MY ONLY QUESTION IS JUST, IT IS STILL HAPPENING ON JULY 1ST, RIGHT? THERE'S NO IMPACT FROM, THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THAT? NO. OKAY. WE, WE SET THE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, BACK IN NOVEMBER OR WHATEVER. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. AND SO WE DID US, YOU KNOW, USUALLY SOMETIMES WE HAVE MOVED THE JULY MEETING, UM, IN LIGHT OF, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT FALLS REALLY ON OR NEAR JULY 4TH. BUT I THINK WE MADE THE CALL THAT JULY 1ST WE WERE GONNA DO, AND THERE IS THE ABILITY TO ATTEND OTHER THAN ME, WHICH I'LL BE HERE. THERE IS THE ABILITY TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY. IF YOU'RE OUT OF TOWN OR SOMETHING, WE MIGHT DO A SPECIAL QUORUM CHECK 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S A TIME WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE OUT OF TOWN, SO WE CAN TRY TO CHECK ON THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'LL HAVE QUORUM. OKAY. UM, GREAT. OKAY. WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL. UM, WE'VE REACHED THE END OF OUR AGENDA, SO I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING, UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION. UM, OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AT 7:03 PM I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.