Jul 02, 2025 Historic Landmark

SO THAT REALLY A LOT OF APPRECIATION TO PRESERVATION AUSTIN, BUT I KNOW THERE WERE MANY INDIVIDUALS AND OTHER GROUPS INVOLVED AS WELL.

AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION WHO WROTE TO REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

IT WAS IMPORTANT.

AND HAVE THE AGENDA REVIEW.

ALRIGHT, WELL AT THIS POINT LET ME GO THROUGH

[Consent Agenda]

THANK YOU CHAIR.

TONIGHT'S AGENDA, UH, BEGINS WITH APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 4TH 20, 25 MINUTES, WHICH IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT THIS EVENING.

THEN UP NEXT WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY AND A BRIEFING ON THE CREATIVE RESET FOR THE HERITAGE GRANT PROGRAM.

HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS TONIGHT INCLUDE ITEM FOUR C 14 H 20 25 0 0 2 2 AT 1701 SAN GABRIEL STREET IS AN ITEM THAT IS OFFERED, UH, THAT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT ITEM FIVE C 14 H 20 25 0 0 6 6 AT 2 0 1 AND, UH, THROUGH TWO 17 RED RIVER STREET, UH, WILL BE OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.

CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS TONIGHT BEGIN WITH ITEM SIX, HR 20 25 0 5 7 8 7 4 AT 600 HEARIN STREET.

UH, WE HAVE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, SO IT WILL BE A DISCUSSION CASE.

ITEM SEVEN, HR 20 25 0 7 0 7 1 6 AT FIVE 15 EAST MARY STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM EIGHT, HR 20 25 0 7 1 0 5 5 AT TWO 17.

RED RIVER STREET IS OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION.

AND ITEM NINE, HR 20 25 0 7 1 0 7 4 AT 2 0 1 RED RIVER STREET IS OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL.

AND, UH, WE WILL ASK THE COMMISSION TO TAKE THESE, UH, OUT OF ORDER SO THAT THEY MAY APPEAR, UH, WITH THEIR, UH, COMPANION HISTORIC ZONING.

UH, ON ITEM FIVE, UM, THIS WILL REQUIRE A MOTION.

ITEM 10, HR 20 25 0 6 6 9 2 AT 4 4 1 1 AVENUE B IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 11, HR 20 25 0 5 8 2 8 7 AT 1316 WEST SIXTH STREET AND 6 0 7 PRESLER STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THIS IS A HERITAGE GRANT APPLICATION.

ITEM 12, HR 20 25 0 7 3 7 6 3 AT EIGHT 11 WEST LIVE.

OAK STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THAT LEADS US TO NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT APPLICATIONS, BEGINNING WITH ITEM 13, HR 20 24 1 2 3 AT 1003 STREET.

THIS IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM 14, PR 20 25 0 2 9 9 5 AND HR 20 25 0 5 6 3 4 4 AT 1703 ALAMEDA DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION AS THERE'S A SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION THIS EVENING.

ITEM 15, HR 20 25 0 5 7 1 1 1 AT 1107 EASTERN STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 16, HR 20 25 0 6 0 3 9 7 AT 1607 GASTON AVENUE IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 17, PR 20 25 0 6 1 4 5 0 AT 1210 WEST 12 STREET IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM 18, HR 20 25 0 6 2 4 2 2 AT 1606 WEATHERSFIELD ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

FINALLY, OUR DEMOLITION AND RELOCATIONS

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APP, RELOCATION APPLICATIONS THIS EVENING BEGIN WITH ITEM 19, PR 20 25 0 4 1 6 1 5 AT 6 0 7 EAST 38TH STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM AS THERE'S A SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.

ITEM 20, PR 2 25 5 8 8 81 AT 1606 CEDAR AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 21 DA 20 25, 5 1 8 0 8 AT SIX 11 WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.

BOULEVARD IS A DISCUSSION ITEM THIS EVENING.

I'M SORRY, STAFF.

UM, MS. CONTRERAS, I, I BELIEVE WE HAD SOMEBODY, UM, ON, VIRTUALLY SIGNED UP ON NUMBER 20 TO SPEAK.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS ON THE, THE LIST I HAD.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS AN ERROR.

THAT IS THE PERSON SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION IS ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT.

OH, THEN WE DON'T WANT TO PULL THAT.

THEN THAT WOULD CAN SAY ON THE CONSENT ACT.

ITEM 22, PR 20 25 0 6 7 0 1 6 AT 300 WEST 34TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM 23, PR 2 2 5 0 6 7 2 9.

UH, AT 5,007 DUVAL STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

24 PR 20 25 0 7 1 2 8 3 AT 48 12 MOUNT ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND TO CONCLUDE OUR MEETING THIS EVENING, WE HAVE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. UH, THEY INCLUDE NUMBER 25, UH, WHICH IS, UH, SELECT AND APPROVE MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE OPERATION AND PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEES ITEM 26, UH, WHICH IS THE INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE PALM PARK SHELTER HOUSE.

UM, AND, UH, JUST AS A NOTE, IF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO TAKE THIS OUT OF ORDER WITH THE HISTORIC ZONING CASES AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA, THAT WILL REQUIRE A MOTION.

AND ITEM 27 IS A VOTE TO APPROVE THE 2024 AND 2025 ANNUAL INTERNAL REVIEW AND REPORT.

THAT CONCLUDES THE READING OF THE, OF THE AGENDA.

AND, UH, THAT IS AGAIN, OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

UM, LET ME AT THIS POINT REITERATE WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO IS GO THROUGH EACH OF THE CONSENT ITEMS FIRST, THEN THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED FOR POSTPONEMENT.

AND IN BOTH OF THESE READINGS, IF ANYBODY HERE IS WISHING TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION, IF YOU ARE OPPOSED OR ANY COMMISSIONERS OR ANY MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO HAVE THAT AS A FULL PRESENTATION, PLEASE GET MY ATTENTION AND LET US KNOW.

UH, BUT OTHERWISE, AS I READ THROUGH, UH, FIRST THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE AND THEN THE POSTPONEMENTS AND TAKE A VOTE.

UH, IF, IF THOSE ITEMS ARE, UH, CONTINUE TO STAY ON THOSE, UH, AGENDAS, THEN THEY WILL BE PASSED WITH THE OR OR POSTPONED, DEPENDING ON WHICH THEY ARE, BUT WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF WILL BE WITH THE APPROVAL.

SO WE'LL START, UH, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, THAT IS A CONSENT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO AND THREE ARE BRIEFINGS.

UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE NEXT CONSENT ITEM.

NO, EXCUSE ME, THAT WAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE NEXT CONSENT ITEM.

THIS IS, UH, FIVE 15 EAST MARY STREET AND THE MARY STREET LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND, UH, THIS WILL BE FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A REAR EDITION.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 10.

THAT'S 44 11 AVENUE B.

UH, THIS IS A PROPOSAL FOR A TWO STORY EDITION TO A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY.

UH, AND THAT ALSO, UH, OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 11 13 16 WEST SIXTH STREET AND 6 0 7 PRESLER STREET.

UH, THIS IS, UH, AN ITEM THAT IS COMING TO US AS A, UM, ONE OF THE, THE ELEMENTS OF OUR GRANTS PROGRAM, BUT IT ALSO IS, UH, A CHANCE FOR US TO REVIEW AND GIVE FEEDBACK AS, UH, THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE AS WELL.

AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 12 8 11 WESTLAKE LIVE OAK STREET.

UH, THIS IS A NEW BUILDING ON A HISTORIC SITE.

IT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THESE NEXT ITEMS ARE THOSE ITEMS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.

AND THE FIRST ITEM FOR CONSENT IS 1107, UH, NUMBER 15, 11 0 7 EASTON STREET.

UH, THIS IS A, UH, TWO BUILDINGS TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON A LOT WHERE WE PREVIOUSLY HAD APPROVED A DEMOLITION OR PREVIOUSLY HAD HAD GOTTEN APPROVAL FOR A DEMOLITION ON THE 16 AT 1607 GASTON AVENUE, UH, IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTERED HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, THIS IS A, UH, SIDE EDITION AND ATTACHED POOL HOUSE STRUCTURE.

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THE NEXT CONSENT ITEM IS NUMBER 18 16 0 6 WEATHERSFIELD ROAD.

UH, THIS IS IN, AGAIN, THE WELL OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS TO DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING GARAGE.

I, I WILL SAY IF THE, UH, OWNER HAS THE ABILITY TO KEEP THAT GARAGE, IT, IT'S CONTRIBUTING.

UH, IT'S SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT GONNA FIT IN YOUR POOL, BUT, UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, IT'S GOING TO STILL FUNCTION AS A GARAGE BECAUSE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WOULD NOT MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE.

BUT WE AT LEAST THROW THAT OUT AS A SUGGESTION, EVEN AS, UH, I'M HAPPY TO KEEP IT ON CONSENT IF NOBODY ELSE PULLS THAT.

UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 NOW IN THE DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION PERMITS, UH, THIS IS AT 1606, UH, CEDAR AVENUE.

UM, THIS IS A DEMOLITION REQUEST OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER 22 300 WEST 34TH STREET.

UH, THIS IS, UH, DEMOLITION OF A 1935 BUILDING, UH, A A OR A BUILDING OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 23 50 0 7 DUVAL STREET.

AND THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER DEMOLITION PERMIT OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER 24 48 12 MOUNT BONNE ROAD, AGAIN, OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND THEN, UM, THAT CONCLUDES THOSE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DISCUSS OR PULL HEARING NONE, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION CHAIR.

UH, I SHOULD JUST MENTION THAT, UH, MY OFFICE HAS WORKED ON ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT LIST.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE APPROPRIATE THING FOR ME TO DO IS LIKELY TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE.

AND WOULD YOU, FOR THE RECORD, WHICH ITEM ARE WE, UH, HAVING YOU ABSTAIN FROM? I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

IT WAS 14 PRESSLER, ITEM NUMBER 11 13 16 WEST SIXTH STREET.

AND OF COURSE, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ IS NOW WITH US VIRTUALLY, SO, UH, WE CAN THE RECORD REFLECT THAT.

UH, SO I'M SORRY, WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ, THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER.

WHAT NUMBER? 11.

11.

AND WAS THERE OTHERS? YES.

MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

OH, OKAY.

ANOTHER ABSTENTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER ACTON, UH, ABSTAINING FROM NUMBER 12.

ALL RIGHTY.

UM, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? WHERE WAS THE SECOND? I DIDN'T SEE IT.

ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR THE, UM, CONSENT AGENDA'S APPROVAL WITH NOTING COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ ABSTAINING FROM NUMBER 11 AND COMMISSIONER ACTON ABSTAINING FROM ITEM NUMBER 12.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND I'M NOTING ALL HANDS ARE RAISED AND YOU MAY RAISE YOUR HAND FOR THE ABSTENTIONS AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ, YOU MAY RAISE YOUR HAND AS WELL, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER REASONS NOT TO.

SO THE ONE ABSTENTIONS FOR EACH OF YOU IS NOTED, BUT OTHERWISE YOUR VOTES ARE FOR APPROVAL FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA.

AND IF ANY OF YOU ARE HERE FOR ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, AGAIN, THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMITS, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THAT WILL REQUIRE A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE THAT WILL NEED TO GO, UH, FILED WITH THE CITY FOR THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.

AND THAT IS PRIOR TO THE RELEASE OF ANY DEMOLITION.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR SEEING TO THAT AS WELL.

UH, THE NEXT ITEMS ARE THOSE THAT WE HAVE OFFERED FOR POSTPONEMENT.

AND THE FIRST ITEM IS AN APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT.

UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

AND THIS IS A HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATION.

IT'S 1701 SAN GABRIEL.

UH, AND THE NEXT ITEM FOR POSTPONEMENT HERE, UH, Y'ALL NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ITEM, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ON, OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

WE NEED TO DO THAT.

THAT WAS A NEW ITEM.

EXCUSE ME.

WOULD THE MAKER OF THE MOTION CARE TO RESTATE THE MOTION? UH, BY NOTING THAT YOU'LL ALSO BE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL OF THE CONSENT ITEMS. MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SUBSEQUENT ITEMS. ALRIGHT.

AND WITH THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER RICE SECOND.

YEAH, COMMISSIONER RICE WAS THERE AT THE TRAINING.

YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

WE SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT.

UH, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE RESTATING THE SAME MOTION, BUT JUST SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING.

LET ME ASK FOR A SHOW OF HANDS, UH, BECAUSE IT IS CLARIFYING THE SAME MOTION, BUT JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY OBJECTION AT ALL.

NO, THERE IS NONE.

ALL HANDS ARE RAISED AND THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS PASSED.

THE PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE CLOSED.

POSTPONEMENT REQUEST ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AS WE INDICATED 1701 SAN GABRIEL STREET.

UH, SO NOW WE'LL

[Items 4, 13, & 17]

HAVE THE, UH,

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UH, THE NEXT POSTPONEMENT WAS ITEM NUMBER 13, AND THAT'S 10 0 3 MAL PHRASE STREET.

AND THE LAST ONE IS ITEM NUMBER 17, AND THAT IS AT 1210 WEST 12TH STREET.

AND ALL OF THESE WOULD BE POSTPONED TO OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, IN AUGUST.

SO, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND STAFF.

DO WE NEED TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN ON THOSE WE NEVER DID.

IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE POSTPONED, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO I JUST MOVED TO APPROVE THE POSTPONEMENTS.

GOT IT.

SECOND THAT.

COMMISSIONER LAROSE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ACTON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND AGAIN, I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

AND NOW, COMMISSIONERS, UH, LET ME SUGGEST BEFORE THE, WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THE BRIEFINGS AND THEN WE CAN GO TO THE HISTORIC ZONING CASES.

SO, UH, THE FIRST ITEM UP IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, A BRIEFING ON THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.

GREAT, GOOD EVENING.

KIM MCKNIGHT, DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT, UM, I AM A POOR SUBSTITUTE FOR THE STAFF MEMBER WHO LED THIS PROJECT, SOPHIA WAGNER, WHO UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, SO I'M SO SORRY.

YEAH, WE JUST GOT A BRIEFING ON THIS AND WE'RE STILL NEW, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH US.

HOW DOES IT OPEN THEN? IT OPENS WITH THE MOTION, OR IT OPENS WHEN IT'S POSTED.

UH, WHEN THE AGENDAS ARE POSTED.

WHEN, WHEN NOTICE.

SO WHEN IS IT? YEAH, THAT'S A NEW CLARIFICATION.

SO EACH SECTIONS WOULD NOT TO BE CLOSED INDIVIDUALLY.

MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE, UH, POSTPONEMENTS.

NOW BACK TO THE BRIEFING.

IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

AGAIN, THIS IS A CLARIFYING MOTION WE ALREADY TOOK, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY'S APPROVAL.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND THERE WE, WITH THAT CLARIFICATION, THEN I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED IS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALRIGHT,

[2. Briefing on the Downtown Austin Historic Resource Survey]

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MCKNIGHT.

GOOD.

EXCUSE ME.

COMMISSIONER MCKNIGHT, PLEASE.

STAFF MEMBER .

AREAS OF INTEREST FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ESPECIALLY AREAS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, UH, WELL REPRESENTED IN THE PAST, WHICH CAN BE, UH, UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES OR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

UH, AS I WAS SAYING, SOPHIA WAGNER ON OUR TEAM, UH, LED THIS PROJECT VERY CAPABLY AND DID SUCH AN INCREDIBLE JOB.

AND I'M SORRY THAT SHE'S NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TO PRESENT.

BUT, UM, I WILL, UM, DO MY BEST.

UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.

UM, THIS IS THE FINAL BRIEFING, UM, ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH, UM, I'LL GO THROUGH AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE'VE WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

LET'S SEE.

UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS SPONSORED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AND THE, UH, FIRM HHM AND ASSOCIATES, UH, IS THE FIRM THAT LOCALLY BASED THAT, UH, CONDUCTED THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.

I'M GONNA GO THROUGH, VERY BRIEFLY, I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL OF THIS TO YOU, BUT THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS OF THE AGENDA, ESSENTIALLY EXPLAINING WHAT A SURVEY IS, SOME IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE SURVEY, SOME KIND OF FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS NEXT STEPS.

SO, HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS, UM, ARE REALLY A FOUNDATIONAL TOOL FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

UM, MUNICIPAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAMS. UM, YOU CANNOT PROTECT THINGS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY ARE.

UM, THERE IS A, UH, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT'S VERY METHODICAL AND, UH, VERY STANDARDIZED AND, UM, I'LL GO THROUGH THE SPECIFICS, BUT, UM, THEY'RE INCREDIBLY USEFUL AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR OUR OFFICE.

THEY, UM, HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS, DOCUMENT BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES AND OBJECTS THAT ARE, UM, AT LEAST 50 YEARS OLD.

UM, THEY EVALUATE THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS THROUGH SOME REALLY AMAZING HISTORIC CONTEXTS THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ.

IF YOU HAVE NEVER READ, UM, ANY OF OUR HISTORIC CONTEXTS THAT ARE IN OUR SURVEYS.

THEY'RE ALMOST LIKE MANY HISTORICAL NOVELS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CITY AND ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

UH, WE ALSO GET INCREDIBLE INFORMATION THAT HELPS US, UM, THROUGH OUR WORK HERE WITH THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, SUCH AS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LOCAL LANDMARKING DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER LISTING AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.

WE USE THESE SURVEYS WHEN DEMOLITION PERMITS OR APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC ZONING COME OUR WAY TO HELP GUIDE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, IT HELPS PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SEEKING HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND IT ALSO HELPS US TREMENDOUSLY WITH IDENTIFYING, UM,

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UH, IN TERMS OF A SURVEY BACKGROUND AND METHODOLOGY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A BEST PRACTICE TO UPDATE SURVEYS EVERY 10 YEARS, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN OVER 40 YEARS.

UH, 1984 WAS THE LAST TIME THAT, UM, CITY OF AUSTIN WAS SURVEYED.

UM, THERE ARE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT NEARLY 2000 RESOURCES WERE SURVEYED ON OVER 1500 PARCELS.

UH, THE BOUNDARIES, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WERE MLK AND ENFIELD TO THE NORTH MOPAC TO THE WEST I 35 TO THE EAST AND LADYBIRD LAKE TO THE SOUTH.

IN TERMS OF FIELD WORK, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, AN ESSENTIAL, THIS IS REALLY THE FOUNDATIONAL STEP, WHICH IS TO AGGREGATE EXISTING INFORMATION AND DEVELOP BASE MAPS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE TYPES OF INFORMATION THAT HELP GO INTO DEVELOPING A SURVEY.

IT'S EXISTING HISTORIC SURVEY INFORMATION, APPRAISAL DISTRICT INFORMATION, HISTORIC MAPS, UM, PREVIOUS SURVEY, UH, SURVEYS.

UH, NEXT THE CONSULTANT TEAM GOES INTO THE FIELD AND TAKES A PHOTO OF, UH, ACTUALLY TWO PHOTOS OF EVERY RESOURCE, UH, INCLUDING PRIMARY AND AUXILIARY RESOURCES.

AND THEY DOCUMENT THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER AS WELL AS THE, UM, INTEGRITY OF A PHYSICAL INTEGRITY OF THOSE SITES AND BUILDINGS.

FOLLOWING THAT, THERE'S SORT OF A SYNTHESIZING OF ALL OF THIS DATA TO COMPILE, UM, ALL OF THE FINDINGS AND THE OCCUPANCY HISTORY.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A PRETTY, UM, IMPRESSIVE HISTORIC CONTEXT THAT'S DEVELOPED SO THAT EACH OF THESE RESOURCES CAN BE UNDERSTOOD IN TERMS OF THE ERA THAT THEY DEVELOPED.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, AGAIN, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY INCREDIBLE.

UH, AND THEN THERE'S A PROCESS OF EVALUATING ELIGIBILITY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF DESIGNATIONS AS WELL AS LOOKING AT POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT FOR THE FUTURE.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL RECOMMENDATIONS HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN TERMS OF, UM, HOW THIS, UH, SURVEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE, FOR A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, OVER 50% OF THE, OF THE RESOURCES SURVEYED ARE, UH, WITHIN AN ELIGIBLE OR LOCAL, UH, A LISTED LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THAT'S A LOT.

SO WE HAVE A VERY, UM, A, UM, INCREDIBLY RICH, UH, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE RIGHT HISTORIC LANDMARKS THAT ARE WITHIN LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS, 81% OF THE SURVEYED RESOURCES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

SO EACH OF, AGAIN, THERE'S TWO PHOTOGRAPHS FOR EACH, UH, BUILDING, BUT THIS IS KIND OF A SAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF RESOURCES THAT YOU, THEY'RE JUST A INCREDIBLE VARIETY OF BUILDINGS AND BUILDING TYPES, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, ECCLESIASTICAL, UM, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THIS SURVEY DOES IS PROVIDE RECOMMENDED HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE BAR IS SET QUITE HIGH TO ACHIEVE A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND SO, UM, SHOULD NEIGHBORS AND PROPERTY OWNERS BE INTERESTED IN PURSUING A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, THIS WOULD BE A STARTING PLACE.

AND OFTEN THOSE DISTRICTS THAT WE END UP BEING ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP ARE OFTEN MUCH SMALLER THAN WHAT'S RECOMMENDED.

BUT IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE AT LEAST A STARTING PLACE TO SEE WHERE YOU HAVE THE CONTINUITY OF HISTORIC RESOURCES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ELIGIBLE IN TERMS OF FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE GET OFTEN IS THAT WILL THIS SURVEY RESULT IN ZONING OR TAX CHANGES AUTOMATICALLY? AND THE ANSWER IS NO.

THIS IS JUST ADVISORY, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON HISTORIC RESOURCE ELIGIBILITY.

WILL VOLUNTARY OWNER INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING RESULT IN ZONING OR TAX CHANGES? AND THE ANSWER IS THAT DESIGNATION ON THE LOCAL LEVEL DOES ADD A SORT OF ZONING CATEGORY TO THE BASE ZONING, AND IT CAN UNLOCK PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION INCENTIVES, UM, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT YOU MUST FOLLOW CITY DESIGN STANDARDS DESIGNATION AS A NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT DOES NOT INVOLVE AS ZONING CHANGE.

UM, BUT IT DOES MAKE SOME PROPERTIES ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, REHABILITATION TAX CREDITS.

UH, AND AS YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION DOES PROVIDE ADVISORY REVIEW OF ALTERATIONS, TERMS OF TIMELINE.

AND NEXT STEPS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE GOT TO WORK ON THIS DECEMBER 18TH, 2023 WAS OUR, UH, FIRST IN-PERSON KICKOFF.

AND, UM, WE'VE HAD QUITE A JOURNEY, INCLUDING JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO PRESENTING TO THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE, WHICH I THINK WENT QUITE WELL.

UM, THIS IS OUR FINAL

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BRIEFING AND THE SURVEY WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTED BY OUR DEPARTMENT AND WILL BE PUT TO USE AND HOPEFULLY IN 10 YEARS WE'LL BE ABLE TO UPDATE IT AGAIN.

IN TERMS OF FUTURE SURVEY PROJECTS, UM, I JUST CAN'T EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS WORK, WHICH DOES REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, STAFFING FOR COORDINATION AS WELL AS FUNDING.

WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE TERRIFIC PARTNERS WITH THE HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION, UM, WHO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS, THESE SURVEYS HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO IDENTIFY HERITAGE TOURISM AREAS AND LANDMARKS.

UM, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN TERRIFIC PARTNERS AND HELPING FUND, UM, MANY OF THESE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS.

UM, WE ARE HOPING THAT, UM, PENDING 2026 FISCAL YEAR 2026 FUNDING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO UPDATE THE EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY, WHICH WAS CO COMPLETED IN IN 2016.

UH, IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZING FUTURE SURVEYS BEYOND EAST AUSTIN, UM, YOU CAN EXPECT A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS THAT EMPHASIZES AND, UM, FOCUSES ON AREAS WITH HIGH DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE, AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE FUNDING ANY QUESTIONS? THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

MS. MCKNIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, NOT ONLY COMPLIMENTS TO, UH, STAFF, UH, ALSO OUR CONSULTANTS, BUT, UH, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A LOT OF EXPERTISE THAT'S GOING INTO A LOT OF PARTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKED AT FOR A WHILE, UH, AND YOU KIND OF EXPECT THAT THERE'LL BE NEW DISCOVERIES.

AND WHAT I THINK IS FASCINATING IS NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AND THE ANALYSIS THAT THESE EXPERTS NOW BRING 40 YEARS LATER TO, UH, WHAT'S IMPORTANT SIGNIFICANCE AND HAS POTENTIAL, BUT IT'S ALSO THE DIALOGUING, IT'S ALSO THE BRINGING THE PEOPLE IN THESE AREAS INTO THE CONVERSATION.

AND, UH, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

SO WE'RE HEARING MORE THAN JUST THIS ONE, THIS ONE AND THIS ONE.

WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING A SLICE OF THIS PART OF AUSTIN'S HISTORY IS STILL WELL REPRESENTED HERE IN THESE INTACT OR THESE SUPPORTIVE AREAS.

AND AGAIN, ESSENTIALLY IT'S THROWING DOWN THE, THE ROADMAP FOR US COMMISSIONERS, UH, BECAUSE IT TAKES WORK TO GET LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

UH, AUSTIN HAS A LOT OF NATIONAL DISTRICTS AND IS THE REPORT NOTES THAT'S MORE HONORARY AND, UH, IT'S NICE TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT THE ACTUAL PROTECTIONS, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT IS PART OF OUR ZONING, THAT ALL HAPPENS ONLY IF IT'S A LOCAL DISTRICT AND WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY OF THOSE, AND WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE USING THIS TOOL MORE EFFECTIVELY.

AND IF I COULD JUST ADD, YOU KNOW, I DID MENTION THAT OUR CONSULTANT TEAM WAS HHM, AND I JUST WANNA PUT A SHOUT OUT.

THEY WOULD BE HERE JUST THE, YOU KNOW, WITH SUMMER TRAVEL, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT.

BUT, UM, OUR CONSULTANT TEAM WAS REALLY AMAZING TO WORK WITH AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH TALENTED, UM, FIRMS HERE IN AUSTIN TO WORK WITH.

AND HHM IS IS ONE OF SEVERAL.

UM, AND AGAIN, UM, WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM OUR, UH, COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING TEAM WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT HELD A VERY SUCCESSFUL SERIES OF MEETINGS ON, UM, APRIL 16TH.

UM, AND ANSWERING LOTS OF QUESTIONS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AND SO, UM, WE KNOW WE, WE ARE SUPPORTED BY, UM, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, UH, TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE CORRECTLY AND PROPERLY.

WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING ALL THE PIECES COMPLETE AND THEN HAVING THAT RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO THE STAFF, TO THE PUBLIC, AND TO FUTURE COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSION.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, LET ME GO ON WITH OUR

[3. Briefing on the Creative Reset for the Heritage Grant Program]

NEXT BRIEFING.

UH, THIS IS THE CREATIVE RESET FOR THE HERITAGE GRANT PROGRAM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND MELISSA ALVARADO IS ONLINE.

SHE'LL BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION TODAY.

MS. ALVAREZ, WELCOME.

MY NAME'S CHRISTINA CFOS.

I'M THE PROJECT COORDINATOR WITH THE HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION, UM, WITH THE NEW OFFICE OF, UH, ACME ARTS CULTURAL MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.

MY, UM, DIVISION MANAGER MELISSA ALVARADO, WILL BE TAKING US OFF WITH THE PRESENTATION.

YEP.

MS. ALVARADO IS THERE.

WE SEE, WE SEE SHE'S STARTING TO SIGN IN.

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MY NAME'S MELISSA S. ALVARADO.

AND NOW WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU MS. ALVARADO.

WE'RE NOT, NOT HEARING YOU YET.

NO, STILL MUTED.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? GOT IT, YES.

YAY.

OKAY, WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I'M SORRY I WASN'T ABLE TO JOIN IN PERSON.

I'M A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER AND I HAVE A COUGH DROP TO MY LEFT IN THE EVENT THAT I NEED IT.

UM, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M THE HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION MANAGER, UH, WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S OFFICE OF ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.

THIS.

THERE YOU GO.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN LAUNCHED THE OFFICE OF ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS ACME IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR TO STRENGTHEN THE CREATIVE ECOSYSTEM IN AUSTIN.

ACME HAS BEEN CONDUCTING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CALLED THE CREATIVE RESET TO ESTABLISH THE MISSION, VISION, GOALS, AND MEASURABLE OUTCOMES TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY AT A MINIMUM IN THESE AREAS LISTED HERE.

THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT HELPS PRESERVE HISTORIC SITES WHILE PROMOTING TOURISM USING HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, SORRY, I'M HEARING FEEDBACK USING HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS AS AUTHORIZED BY TEXAS TAX CODE CHAPTER 3 51.

THE GRANT SUPPORTS HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS AND HISTORY FOCUSED ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE THE SITE'S HISTORY TO TOURISTS, EXPANDS ACCESS TO HERITAGE RESOURCES, AND SUPPORTS THE CREATIVE ECONOMY.

THE GRANTS WILL CONTINUE TO OFFER TWO YEAR GRANT TERMS. BE OPEN TO NONPROFITS AND BUSINESSES WHO OWN OR LEASE HISTORIC SITES, REQUIRE NO MATCHING FUNDS.

OFFER A 10% ADMIN AND PROJECT MANAGE MANAGEMENT FEE AND OFFER TOURISM MARKETING TRAINING FOR AWARDEES IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.

WHILE ALL GRANT PROJECTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE MARKETED TO TOURISTS AND OCCUR IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT IN FISCAL YEAR 26, THE GRANT WILL INCLUDE 10 BONUS POINTS IN THE APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC SITES OR DISTRICTS APPROVED AND PURSUING A LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

AND ONLY ONE COMPLETE BID PACKAGE WILL BE REQUIRED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THROUGH THE CREATIVE RESET COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

OVER 1200 RESIDENTS PROVIDED FEEDBACK REQUESTING SIMPLER APPLICATIONS, BETTER ACCESS TO FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, AND MORE SUPPORT FOR DIVERSE VOICES.

IN ADDITION, ACCESS TO CULTURAL SPACES.

IN RESPONSE, ACME HAS REDESIGNED THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT PROGRAM WITH STREAMLINED PROCESSES AND REDUCE THE PROJECT CATEGORIES FROM FOUR TO TWO BEING CAPITAL PROJECTS AND HERITAGE EVENTS.

TOURS, AND PROGRAMS THAT PROMOTE LOCAL HISTORY AND STORYTELLING TO TOURISTS WILL INCLUDE ACTIVITIES.

IN ADDITION, WE HAVE EXPANDED ELIGIBLE HISTORIC INTERIOR PROJECTS TO INCLUDE REPAIRS FOR INTERIOR FLOORING, MASONRY WALLS, AND NON-INTRUSIVE SAFETY, MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. ALL PROJECTS MUST ADHERE, PROTECT INTERIOR STANDARDS AND INCLUDE A PRESERVATION ARCHITECT TEAM.

NEXT SLIDE.

TIERED FUNDING TO SUPPORT EVENTS, EXHIBITS,

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THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO $50,000.

AND IN INSTANCES WHERE THE ORIGINAL SITE CANNOT BE USED OR IS NO LONGER EXISTING, APPLICANTS MAY PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE HISTORIC SITE WITH OR WITHOUT A HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND WITH AN EXPLANATION OF WHY AND HOW THE SITE HELPS TELL THE STORY OF AN IMPORTANT HISTORIC EVENT, PERSON, COMMUNITY GROUP, OR THE CITY AS IDENTIFIED UNDER HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATION, THIS CATEGORY AND ACTIVITIES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO $25,000 IN FUNDING FOR HERITAGE EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.

AT THIS MOMENT, I'D LIKE TO HAND IT OVER TO CHRISTINA CFOS S TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED THROUGH THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT.

WOMEN IN THEIR WORK SHARED THAT THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT WAS ESSENTIAL IN RESTORING THEIR HISTORIC GALLERY AND EDUCATION SPACE IN EAST AUSTIN.

THANKS, MELISSA.

BEFORE WE GO INTO FISCAL YEAR 24, PROJECT UPDATES, A FEW OF THEM, UM, I DID WANT TO GO OVER AS PART OF THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT PROCESS, UM, WHAT GRANT AWARDEES MUST COMPLETE AS PART OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE, UM, GRANT AGREEMENT.

OH, GREAT, THANKS.

SO BEFORE ENTERING INTO CONTRACT AND THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT, AWARDEES ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, UM, PROJECT DETAILS, UM, INCLUDING CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THEIR PROJECT TEAM PRESERVATION ARCHITECTS, CONTRACTORS WHO ARE PERFORMING THE WORK AND, UM, DESIGNATED PROJECT LEADS AS WELL THROUGH ASSESSMENT PORT REPORTING AWARDEES MUST REPORT ON PROJECT PROGRESS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN SOME OF THE SLIDE THE NEXT, UH, SLIDES, INCLUDING THE PHOTOS.

THIS INCLUDES TECHNICAL UPDATES FROM THE PRESERVATION ARCHITECT PHOTO DOCUMENTATION OF THE SITE, SO BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS MUST COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE LOCAL AND OR NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION STANDARDS.

SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY, I CAN, THERE WE GO.

LIKE, TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW, JUST A FEW OF THE COMPLETED PROJECTS AND SOME OF THEM THAT ARE STILL IN PROGRESS.

FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION WAS AWARDED $237,000 FOR THE PRESERVATION OF HENRY G MADISON'S LOG CABIN BASED ON DESIGN DRAWINGS AND SPECIFICATIONS COMPLETED BY PRESERVATION, HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECTS DURING THE PLANNING PHASE.

THE HENRY GG MADISON CABIN WAS BUILT IN APPROXIMATELY 1863 BY PIONEERING AUSTIN CIVIC LEADER HENRY GREEN MADISON, WHO IS NOTABLE FOR BEING AUSTIN'S FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

ORIGINALLY LOCATED AT 8 0 7 EAST 11TH STREET.

THE CABIN WAS THE HOME OF MADISON, HIS WIFE LOUISA GREEN AND THEIR NINE CHILDREN.

THE CABIN WAS RELOCATED TO HISTORIC ROSEWOOD PARK IN THE EARLY 1970S AND WAS DESIGNATED A RECORDED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK IN 1974 AND A CITY OF AUSTIN LANDMARK IN 1976.

YOU CAN SEE IN THESE PHOTOS, UM, THE DETAILED RESTORATION PROCESS AND HOW EACH LOG WAS CAREFULLY NUMBERED FOR ACCURATE DISASSEMBLY AND REASSEMBLY, AN ACCESSIBLE WALKWAY STONEWORK AND THE ORIGINAL FLOOR HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE RECENTLY.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, RECENTLY, MORTAR AND CHINKING SELECTIONS HAVE BEEN FINALIZED AND THE PROJECT IS NEARING COMPLETION WITH WINDOWS, SHUTTERS AND DOOR.

ANOTHER ONE OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS CENTER FOR WOMEN.

AND THEIR WORK RECEIVED OVER $104,000 FOR THE RESTORATION WORK AT JOHNSON AND JOHNSON GROCERY AND HOUSE.

THE WORK CONSISTED OF ROOF WORK, UM, IN ADDITION TO FOUNDATION LEVELING, UM, EXTERIOR WOOD RESTORATION, A GUTTER SYSTEM INSTALLATION AND PRESERVATION OF WINDOWS INDOORS.

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THEY ALSO SHARED THAT AS A NONPROFIT, THE FUNDING MADE THE PROJECT POSSIBLE AND ALLOWED THEM TO CONTINUE SERVING AS A VIBRANT COMMUNITY HUBS FOR EXHIBITIONS, PERFORMANCES, AND PUBLIC PROGRAMS. THEY ALSO EMPHASIZED THAT THE GRANT MAKES PRESERVATION MORE ACCESSIBLE AND HELPS KEEP IT A PRIORITY IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

TWO OTHER PROJECTS, UH, THAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ARE EDUCATIONAL PROJECTS.

ONE OF THEM IS THE BETHANY CEMETERY ASSOCIATION OF TRAVIS COUNTY WAS AWARDED $95,000 TO SUPPORT A MULTIFACETED EDUCATIONAL PROJECT AT AUSTIN'S FIRST BLACK CEMETERY.

ONE KEY COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOS, IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE, WHICH WAS, UM, UNVEILED DURING THIS YEAR'S JUNETEENTH EVENT.

THE SIGNAGE FEATURES A MAP, HISTORICAL TIMELINE AND QR CODES THAT INVITE VISITORS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE INDIVIDUALS, UM, WHO ARE BURIED THERE, THE HISTORY OF THE LAND AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY'S LEGACY.

LEGACY.

THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION ALSO INCLUDED A SPECIAL PROGRAM AND GUIDED TOURS LED BY BLACK AUSTIN TOURS, AND IT OFFERED A DEEPER INSIGHT INTO THIS, THE CEMETERY'S CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

THIS PROJECT REFLECTS THE PASSION, THE STEWARDSHIP, AND THE DEDICATION OF THE BETHANY CEMETERY ASSOCIATION, AND PRESERVING THE HISTORY AND CREATING MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITIES FOR VISITORS AND TOURISTS TO ENGAGE WITH AND LEARN FROM THIS IMPORTANT HERITAGE SITE.

AND THE LAST PROJECT UPDATE I HAVE FOR YOU ALL, DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE WAS AWARDED $250,000 TO SUPPORT HERITAGE EVENTS AT REPUBLIC SQUARE.

UM, THIS SPACE, UH, HAS SERVED AS A CENTRAL GATHERING PLACE FOR MANY MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS AND MEXICAN AMERICANS LIVING IN THE CITY AS EARLY AS THE, UH, LATE 19TH CENTURY.

IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MEXICOTTE MUSEUM AND SISTER SISTER CITIES, SOUTH, SOUTH THEO, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE PRODUCES A SERIES OF HERITAGE EVENTS THAT CELEBRATE AUSTIN'S DIVERSE HISTORY.

THESE EVENTS HONOR AND PRESERVE MEXICAN, MEXICAN AMERICAN, BLACK AND AWA COMMUNITIES THROUGH STORYTELLING AND HELP CONNECT THE CITY'S PAST AND ITS PRESENT.

PRESENT RAISIN WITH D AA SHARED THAT THE GRANT HAS BEEN A TRANSFORMATIVE FORCE IN PRESERVING AND CELEBRATING AUSTIN'S MEXICAN AMERICAN HISTORY.

IT HELPS ENSURE THAT THE VOICES, TRADITIONS, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR COMMUNITIES REMAIN AT THE HEART OF AUSTIN FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION TODAY.

UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, UM, COMMISSIONERS IN PUBLIC.

IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE HAVE OUR EMAIL UP ON THE PRESENTATION AND YOU CAN ALSO CHECK OUT OURGRANT@AUSTINTEXAS.GOV SLASH HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT.

MS. COOPERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. UH, ALVARADO.

AND, UH, DID I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS FROM ACME ARE HERE TONIGHT? I BELIEVE WE MIGHT OH, GO AHEAD, MELISSA.

OH, YES.

WE DO HAVE MORGAN MESSICK AS WELL, WHO IS OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT ACME AND OVERSEES THE HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION.

YEP.

MS. MESSICK, ARE YOU HERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST MAKE A COMMENT? I AM HERE.

I CAN'T TELL IF I'M ON SCREEN THOUGH.

UH, WE DON'T SEE YOUR, WE DON'T SEE YOUR, UH, CAMERA YET.

THERE'S A MOMENT.

APOLOGIES.

IT'S ASKING ME TO CONFIRM IN MY SYSTEM SETTINGS THAT THIS IS, UH, NOT A MALICIOUS CAMERA SITUATION.

GIMME ONE MOMENT, .

AND, UM, REALLY I WANTED TO BRING A PRESENCE TO THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FORMATION OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, OR ANY QUESTIONS AROUND, UM, WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT AND WHAT SOME OF OUR GOALS ARE.

LET'S SEE IF THAT WORKED.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS NOT WORKING.

AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK IF I'M OFF CAMERA? UH, THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING.

I'M SURE YOU CAN, YOU CAN, UH, SHARE, SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE, SIR.

OKAY, WONDERFUL.

MY APOLOGIES.

UM, MY COMPUTER IS AT ODDS WITH MY INTENTIONS FOR THE EVENING.

UM, YES, I AM HERE TO SUPPORT, UH, THE GREAT WORK BEING DONE BY MELISSA AND CHRISTINA.

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UM, AND OF COURSE, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE GRANT THAT WE WILL BE OPENING.

AND, UM, YES, I PREPARED NOTHING, BUT I'M HERE FOR ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS.

I'LL SAY THAT COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF ANY OF, UH, OUR, OUR GUESTS HERE? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE WHAT I'M, I AM GOING TO SAY TO EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, AT THIS POINT LATER IN THE AGENDA, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING BRIEFLY OUR COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.

AND YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT WE ARE NOT POSTED FOR THE GRANTS COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S PARTLY BECAUSE THAT IS AN OUTMODED, UH, LABEL FOR A GROUP THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE REVAMPED JUST AS ACT.

UH, THE ACME GROUP IS REVAMPING AND, UH, IF THERE IS AN INTEREST THAT WE WILL NEED TO POPULATE A COMMITTEE, WHETHER WE CALL IT THE GRANTS COMMITTEE OR THE ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AND WORK WITH ACME COMMITTEE.

UH, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE A VERY INTEGRAL PART OF THIS MULTIDISCIPLINARY NEW OPPORTUNITY, UH, AND WE DO BRING THIS VERY STORIED PROGRAM AND GRANTS, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO THE TABLE, BUT UNLIKE THE PAST, IT WON'T BE JUST ONLY BEING THOUGHT OF OR, OR ADMINISTERED WITHIN THE SILO OF JUST PRESERVATION.

UH, AND THEN IF WE'RE LUCKY, WE CAN TRY TO CONNECT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.

UH, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND WITH THIS NEW INITIATIVE, UH, TO REALLY THINK THROUGH HOW TO LEVERAGE ALL THE DIFFERENT RESOURCES OF THE ARTS, ALL OF OUR CULTURAL RESOURCES HERE AND ADD THAT, UH, VOICE PRESERVATION TO THOSE AS WELL.

AND SO, UH, AS YOU ALL ARE THINKING OF YOUR COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS, PLEASE, UH, I WOULD LIKE AT LEAST THREE OF YOU TO TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY THE IDEA THAT YOU'D BE INVOLVED IN THIS NEW COMMITTEE, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE WON'T BE MAKING THAT ASSIGNMENT SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT.

SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT UNLESS THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS

WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE BRIEFING.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING.

THANK YOU COMMISSION AND, UM, THANK YOU TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE STAFF FOR ALL YOU DO AND YOUR PARTNERSHIP.

WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH AND WE LOVE SEEING THE SUCCESS STORIES.

WE WANT MORE OF THOSE WE'D LIKE TO SEE WILL DO THE, THE ADDED, THE ADDED UH, BENEFIT.

[26. 200 N IH 35 SVRD SB Palm Park Shelter House Council District 9]

AT THIS POINT WE ARE, UH, UP TO THE, UH, HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER 26 OUT OF ORDER.

UH, THIS IS THE REQUEST THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, TUCCI AND I HAVE MADE REGARDING THE PALM PARKS, UH, SHELTER HOUSE.

I KNOW SEVERAL OTHER COMMISSIONERS WERE CONSULTED, SO THERE MAY EVEN BE MORE, UH, SIGN-ONS MORE THAN JUST THE TWO OF US.

BUT, UH, ALL WE'LL NEED IF WE CAN FIRST HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER.

ALRIGHT, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

UH, COMMISSIONER SECOND RO, AND THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER RICE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

NOT ONLY JUST SORT OF INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENTS BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO THROUGH NUMEROUS, UH, CONSULTANT LED STUDIES RELATED TO THE WALLER CREEK TUNNEL AND I 35.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TAKING ITEM NUMBER 26 OUT OF ORDER.

PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.

IT IS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY, WE MAY TAKE THAT ITEM UP.

UH, LET ME CALL ON STAFF.

UH, THIS CAN BE BRIEF, BUT WE HAVE A, UH, LETTER IN SUPPORT AND, UH, IF WE COULD ALSO GET AN IMAGE OF THIS RATHER UNIQUE STRUCTURE, I THINK YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

HELLO, KIM MCKNIGHT, DIVISION MANAGER FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

I JUST START BY ASKING IF WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FROM EITHER PARKS AND REC OR THE WALLER? UH, WATERLOO GREENWAY DOES.

WHY DON'T Y'ALL COME FORWARD JUST BRIEFLY.

OKAY, GREAT.

OH, YOU GOT A DRONE SHOT OF IT.

WOW.

THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

YEAH, IF YOU COULD JUST NEVER SEEN FROM THAT, WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES FOR THE RECORD AND I'LL JUST DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.

SO MY NAME'S GABRIELLE.

OH, HERE, JUST PRESS THAT LITTLE BUTTON THERE.

MY NAME'S GABRIELLE PATRICK.

I'M WITH, UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION AND ACQUISITION WITH PARKS PLANNING.

AND I'M PAUL BOOKS.

I'M A PRINCIPAL PLANNER ALSO WITH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION TEAM HERE TO SUPPORT THE INITIATION OF THE HISTORIC ZONING.

GREAT.

SO PALM PARK IS AMONG THE FIRST PARKS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND THE SHELTER HOUSE IS AMONG THE FIRST PARKS AND RECREATION STRUCTURES, UM, IN THE ENTIRE CITY.

SOME OF YOU KNOW, I WORKED AT PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGING HISTORIC RESOURCES FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS.

AND SO, UM, IT'S VERY EXCITING THAT THIS PARK WILL HAVE A SHOT AT, UM, KIND OF A NEW LEASE ON LIFE AFTER MANY YEARS OF DORMANCY.

AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, SOME EXCITING WORK TO, YOU KNOW, THE PARK AS WELL AS THE SHELTER HOUSE.

UH, THE SHELTER HOUSE IS, BUT ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AS ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC ZONING THROUGH

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UM, SO THERE'S NO QUESTION OF ITS ELIGIBILITY.

UM, THIS PROJECT, UH, THE REHABILITATION OF THIS BUILDING DID RECEIVE A HERITAGE GRANT.

AND AS A CONDITION OF THE HERITAGE GRANT, THE BUILDING MUST BE DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK WITHIN THE SORT OF CYCLE OF THE GRANT.

SO YOU ARE SEEING, UH, TODAY AND INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING AND BY THE COUNCIL, UH, BY THE COMMISSION, UM, INITIATING THAT.

IT DOES HELP KIND OF SPEED THE PROCESS ALONG.

AND THEN, UM, YOU WILL ALSO BE SEEING, UM, IN, WITHIN A MONTH OR SO, I BELIEVE, UM, CERTAINLY THE ARCHITECTURAL VIEW COMMITTEE NEXT MONTH, BUT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION VERY SOON, UM, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT WILL FOR, FOR THE REHABILITATION ITSELF, WHICH IS PART OF A VERY, AGAIN, A, A LARGE PROJECT THAT INCLUDES PALM PARK, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU MANY OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, WATERLOO PARK AND THE AMPHITHEATER THERE, AS WELL AS THE PROJECT THAT'S UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, THE CONFLUENCE.

SO ALL OF IT PART OF KIND OF A GREAT REVITALIZATION OF A SYSTEM OF PARKS.

UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I HAVE, UM, FAILED TO MENTION OR THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, UM, TO THE GREAT DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT IS THAT WE WILL BE BACK HERE ON AUGUST 6TH FOR THE HISTORIC, UH, ZONING REVIEW AS WELL AS THE REVIEW OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE STRUCTURE.

SO JUST WANNA CONFIRM THE TIMELINE.

UH, ASSUMING WE HAVE A MOTION THAT PASSES.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REQUEST? AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, WHEN WE REQUEST A ZONING, UH, INITIATION, THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS TAKING A VOTE ON THE ACTUAL ZONING AND IT, IT CANNOT BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL POSTING, IT'LL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH OF STAFF AND A MORE FORMAL PRESENTATION.

BUT THIS GETS THE BALL ROLLING.

AND IDEALLY AT THE NEXT MEETING, THEN WE'LL SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT.

SO, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, I WILL ENTERTAIN, UH, A MOTION AND COMMISSIONER TANNA GCI, SINCE YOU PUT THIS ON, UH, I'LL LET YOU MAKE THAT MOTION.

UH, YEAH.

I, I MOTION, UM, TO INITIATE THE HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE PALM PARK SHELTER HOUSE AND COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ, I KNOW YOU WERE INVOLVED AS WELL.

UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND THE MOTION? YEP, I WILL.

UH, AND THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT WE'RE JUST ASKING IT TO GET STARTED.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED IS UNANIMOUS.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION AND IT MAY EVEN SOME MORE DRONE PHOTOS.

THOSE ARE COOL.

ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S THE FIRST OF THE, UH, HISTORIC ZONING, UH, ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.

AND THE SECOND WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

AND AS WE NOTED IN THE AGENDA REVIEW, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE ARE BOTH RELATED TO THAT IN THAT SOME OF THESE ALSO ARE, UH, PART OF A COMPLEX THAT HAS BOTH HISTORIC ZONING AS WELL AS, UH, DISTRICT, AS WELL AS, UH, UH, POTENTIAL LANDMARK STATUS BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE BUILDING.

SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE WOULD TAKE EIGHT AND NINE OUT OF ORDER IN ORDER THAT WE WILL HEAR ALL THREE CASES SIMULTANEOUSLY ARE EIGHT, NINE FOLD OR SOME MOVED.

THEY WERE A DISCUSSION.

WE, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T KEEP ON CONSENT.

OH, I SEE.

SO YOU JUST WANNA MOVE TO COMBINE THEM YEAH.

TO TAKE EIGHT TO NINE OUT OF ORDER THERE THEREBY ALLOWING THEM TO BE HEARD WITH FIVE.

WITH FIVE.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED? UH, NONE.

ETSY UNANIM.

TO INTRODUCE THIS, UM, WHILE YOU'RE PULLING UP THE PRESENTATION.

UH, I WILL, UH, I'M GONNA GIVE A COUPLE OF REMARKS JUST

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WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND THE PRESENTATION? ALL RIGHT.

PERFECT.

UM, AGAIN, KIM MCKNIGHT WITH, UH, DIVISION MANAGER, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

UM, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE THIS TOPIC OR THIS, UH, ITEM OR SERIES OF ITEMS BECAUSE, UM, OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN ENGAGED AND WORKING VERY CLOSELY AND COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR, UM, SISTER DEPARTMENT, THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER, AS PART OF THIS HUGE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

UM, THEY CAME TO US, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UM, UH, RILEY, UH, WHO'S BEEN A COLLEAGUE FOR A LONG TIME, RILEY TRIGS, WHO'S A, UH, WITH CAPITAL, UH, PROJECT CAPITAL, WHAT IS YOUR DEPART? CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES, NEW NEW DEPARTMENT NAME.

UM, AND SAID

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THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER'S AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE AND BUDGET CONSTRAINTS.

IT APPEARS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD A CHILLING PLANT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, REPLACING AN EXISTING ONE IN A SITE WHERE WE HAVE TWO HISTORIC HOUSES THAT ARE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND, UM, THEY CAME TO US WITH, YOU KNOW, OPEN MIND AND WERE, UH, VERY, UM, UH, OPEN TO FEEDBACK AND UNDERSTOOD, UM, SERIOUS CONCERNS WE HAD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOSING TWO, POTENTIALLY LOSING TWO HISTORIC STRUCTURES.

UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF KIND OF UPS AND DOWNS, TWISTS AND TURNS IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, KEEP THESE BUILDINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, INTACT.

UM, AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT IDEAS.

UM, THEY'LL TALK ABOUT KIND OF WHERE THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'VE GONE IN, UM, WHICH I THINK IS VERY, VERY EXCITING.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, RILEY TRIGS IN PARTICULAR IS, UM, VERY PRESERVATION MINDED.

AND I, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CONVENTION CENTER IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE SOMEBODY WITH HIS SENSITIVITY TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION WORKING ON THIS.

UM, WE'RE ALSO VERY FORTUNATE TO BE WORKING WITH THE TALENTED CONSULTANT TEAM, UH, LED BY PAGE, WHICH I THINK YOU'VE GOT A DIFFERENT NAME.

EL EL WHAT, WHAT IS IT AGAIN? LN PAGE, EL N PAGE.

I THINK THEY'VE, THEY'VE MERGED AS WELL AS ARCHITECT, A VERY WELL KNOWN AND WELL RESPECTED, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECTURE, UM, UH, FIRM.

SO, UM, VERY EXCITED TO TEE THIS UP.

AND WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND FEEL FREE TO INTRODUCE YOUR FULL TEAM.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE, UM, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE.

STAFF REPORT HAS TO GO FIRST.

OH, YES.

STAFF REPORT HAS TO GO FIRST.

SORRY, KELLEN, YOU GO AHEAD.

UM, AND, UH, JUST A POINT OF ORDER CHAIR, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE MOTION WAS TO, UM, TAKE ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND THEN Y'ALL WILL DELIBERATE ON THAT.

AND THEN ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE WILL BE TAKEN TOGETHER AND THEN DELIBERATED UPON TOGETHER.

IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? UH, BECAUSE THE ACTIONS WILL BE REQUIRED SEPARATE MOTIONS, UH, I, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITHIN YOUR RIGHT TO MAKE ALL PRESENTATIONS AT THE SAME TIME, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

UH, IT REALLY, WHATEVER, WHATEVER BASICALLY HELPS ORGANIZE THE INFORMATION.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SORTING OUT THE MOTIONS, WE CAN DO BASICALLY ALL, ALL OF THEM AT THAT TIME.

THEY'RE FANTASTIC PARTNERS.

I THINK, UM, IT MIGHT BE BEST TO DO THE ZONING PORTION FIRST AND GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY, AND THEN WE CAN DO THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS TOGETHER, UM, BECAUSE THE MOTIONS ARE, ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM HISTORIC ZONING TO THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION STUFF.

SO FOLLOW YOUR LEAD.

GREAT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM FIVE, UH, C 14 H 20 25 0 0 6 6.

UH, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE TRASK HOUSE AND CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE.

UM, THESE PROPERTIES ARE BETWEEN 2 0 1 AND TWO 17 RED RIVER STREET AS WELL AS 6 0 3 EAST THIRD STREET.

UH, THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST INCLUDES A VARIETY.

UH, WE HAVE CBDH TO CBD FOR TRACT ONE, CBD TO CBD FOR TRACT TWO AND THREE AND CBD TO CBDH FOR TRACT FOUR.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO GRANT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES ON JUNE 5TH, 2025.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 25 0 6 0 5 DASH 22, DIRECTING STAFF TO PROCESS THE APPLICATIONS FOR REZONING OF CITY PROPERTY TO RECOMMEND APPROPRIATE REZONING AND TO TAKE NECESSARY STEPS TO ENSURE AN EFFICIENT REZONING PROCESS TO AVOID UNNECESSARY DELAY, UH, THE APPLICATION'S, FOUR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS TO RELOCATE THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE ON THE SAME PROPERTY AT 2 0 1 RED RIVER STREET AND TO RELOCATE THE TRASK HOUSE AND ITS OUTBUILDINGS FROM TWO 17 RED RIVER STREET CLOSER TO THEIR ORIGINAL SITE ON NICHES, UH, WILL BE REVIEWED.

UM, AT THIS MEETING, UM, WITH ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE, THE REZONING APPLICATION SEEKS TO REMOVE HISTORIC ZONING FROM THE TRASK HOUSE LOT SO THAT THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THEREIN MAY BE RELOCATED, STORED AND REPLACED NEAR TO THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATION AT THE CORNER OF RED RIVER AND EAST CESAR CHAVEZ STREETS.

THE BUILDING'S FOOTPRINTS WILL THEN BE ZONED H UH, PER THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND YOUR BACKUP, UH, BETWEEN THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION AND THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER, INTERPRETIVE MATERIAL IS PROPOSED FOR THE BUILDING'S NEW LOCATIONS AND, UH, SHOULD THE RED RIVER AND EAST CAESAR CHAVEZ STREET LOCATION PROVEN FEASIBLE, THE BUILDINGS WILL BE RELOCATED TO PIONEER FARMS. UM, WHO WILL, UH, WHERE, WHERE IT WILL SERVE TO, UH, TO EDUCATE VISITORS ABOUT, UH, EARLY AUSTIN'S BUILDING TYPES DEVELOPMENT AND WAYS OF LIFE.

THE PROPOSAL ALSO SEEKS TO APPLY HISTORIC ZONING TO THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSES PROPOSED LOCATION IN PREPARATION FOR THE HOUSE'S RELOCATION AND REORIENTATION ONTO THE SAME LOT.

UH, THIS IS LABELED AS TRACT FOUR IN YOUR BACKUP.

UH, LOOKS LIKE A TRAPEZOID.

THE HOUSE WILL BE STORED OFFSITE AND REPLACED IN THE SAME RELATIVE LOCATION, BUT ROTATED TO FACE THE WATERLOO GREENWAY TRAILHEAD ENTRANCE, ENTRANCE AT THE, UH, SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE LOT.

AND, UH, THE BASIS FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE, UH, INCLUDES A, UH, PORTIONS

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OF A NARRATIVE RECORDED IN THE LATE 1990S OR EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

UM, THAT DISCUSSES HOW THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE, UH, WHICH WAS THEN REFERRED TO AS A FONTAINE HOUSE, WAS BUILT BY AUSTIN MERCHANT RM CASTLEMAN FOR HIS FAMILY BETWEEN 1869 AND 1873.

THIS MASONRY RESIDENCE WAS HOME TO FOUR, FOUR GENERATIONS OF THE CASTLEMAN FAMILY BEFORE ST.

DAVID'S EPISCOPAL CHURCH ACQUIRED IT IN 1963.

THE HOUSE IS A SURVIVING EXAMPLE OF THE 19TH CENTURY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES ONCE FOUND THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

THE TRASH HOUSE WAS RELOCATED TO ITS CURRENT SITE FROM 1 0 5 CHES AND ZONED AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK IN 1991.

AND IT WAS FULLY REHABILITATED IN 2008.

THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE, UH, ONCE CONNECTED TO ST.

DAVID'S WAS MOVED TO ITS CURRENT SITE AROUND 2004, AND ITS EXTERIOR WAS FULLY REHABILITATED IN 2019.

UH, THE TRASH HOUSE WAS ALSO ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED AS AN RTHL AT ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION ON NICHES IN 1972.

AND THE AGE ZONING TOOK PLACE IN 1977.

UM, HISTORIC ZONING WAS REMOVED FROM 1 0 5 NICHES IN 1989 IN PREPARATION FOR ITS MOVE TO THE CURRENT RED RIVER LOCATION.

UM, AND IT WAS APPLIED TO, UH, TWO 17 RED RIVER, UH, BACK IN 1991.

SO THIS HOUSE WILL, UH, SOMEWHAT REPEAT THIS PROCESS, UH, WITH THE CURRENT PROJECT PROPOSAL.

THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF PRESENTATION FOR THE HISTORIC ZONING, UM, AND REZONING APPLICATION.

UH, SO, UH, WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, THE TEAM HERE.

UH, UNLESS THERE ARE COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTION? NO, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CALLEN.

SO YOU SAID A WHOLE LOT THERE AND WHAT I PICKED UP ON, I HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY WITH THIS BUILDING 'CAUSE I MOVED IT TO ITS CURRENT LOCATION, .

SO WHAT DETERMINES FEASIBILITY OF THE EAST OF THE RED RIVER, EAST CESAR CHAVEZ SITE? I'M GOING TO LET THE, UH, THE FOLKS WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER ANSWER THAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.

IF, IF, UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, SHALL WE PROCEED TO THE PRESENTATION AND THEN ASSUME THAT THAT WILL ALSO BE ADDRESSED? THAT'S ALRIGHT.

THAT, I HOPE THAT WILL BE THE INTENT.

TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MR. TRACE.

THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER SITE.

SO, UM, HAVE A COUPLE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF REALLY EXCELLENT FRAMINGS OF THE SITUATION, SO I'M GONNA ADD ON AND PILE ON TO THAT, UH, TO ADD KIND OF THE, UH, SIGNIFICANCE AND KIND OF THE PEOPLE COMPONENT TO THE EFFORTS BEHIND THIS PROJECT.

SO THIS IS PART OF A VERY LARGE, UH, COMPLEX FAST MOVING CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT, WHICH IS, UH, ONE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, TOP FOUR PROJECTS GOING ON FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS CURRENTLY.

UM, THE TRASK HOUSE AND THE CASMAN BULL HOUSE, UH, HAVE FOUND THEMSELVES, UH, IN THE PATH OF THIS VERY LARGE, FAST MOVING COMPLEX PROJECT.

UM, AND, UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF EFFORTS, UH, WITHIN THE PAST JUST SEVERAL MONTHS IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MOST APPROPRIATELY, UM, UH, SITUATE THESE HISTORIC BUILDINGS, UH, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE CITY.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT OUT THAT, UH, THIS IS IN THE CRITICAL PATH OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

UM, WE'VE HAD A VERY SHORT TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S BEEN A VERY INTENSE AND DELIBERATE PROCESS, UM, HAVING TO DO WITH, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, COMING ON BOARD AND REALLY HELPING US, INCLUDING THIS COMMISSION, ESPECIALLY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AND STAFF, UH, TO PROVIDE REALLY GREAT INPUT AND SUPPORT IN, IN, IN OUR EFFORTS, UH, ESPECIALLY, UH, CALLAN AND KIM AND THEIR TIRELESS EFFORTS TO HELP US LOCATE, UH, PLACES, UH, FOR THESE, UH, BUILDINGS.

UM, AND, AND EXHAUSTIVELY GO THROUGH ALL OF THE OPTIONS IN DOWNTOWN TO TRY TO KEEP THEM WITHIN THEIR, UM, WITHIN THEIR CONTEXT, UH, AS WELL AS HELPING US WITH PIONEER FARMS AND THE POSSIBILITY, UH, OF THAT LOCATION AS WELL.

UH, THERE'S ALSO BEEN HUGE EFFORTS WITH THE, THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN ZONING, UH, CONVENTION CENTER STAFF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, OUR CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES STAFF, OUR LEGAL STAFF, PARKS AND RECREATION, ACME REAL ESTATE, OUR PARTNERS AT WATERLOO GREENWAY CONSERVANCY, PIONEER FARMS. IT'S KINDA LIKE THE OSCARS.

UM, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ARE AMAZING ARCHITECTURAL, UH, AND PRESERVATION CONSULTANTS, UM, WHO HAD THIS, UH, PROBLEM SPRUNG ON THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF A HUGE, COMPLEX, FAST BOOING PROJECT.

I DUNNO IF I'VE MENTIONED THAT.

I, AND HAVE HANDLED THIS WITH, WITH DEFT, UH, WITH CONSIDERATION, UM, AND HAVE ACTED PROFESSIONALLY, QUICKLY, UH, AND HAVE COME UP WITH REALLY GREAT SOLUTION THAT THEY'RE GONNA PROPOSE TO YOU THIS EVENING.

SO THAT'S KIND OF MY REFRAMING OF THE FRAMING OF THE FRAMING AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANTS, UH, TO TAKE US THROUGH THIS.

GREAT, THANK YOU RILEY.

UH, LARRY, YOU'RE SECRET WITH ARCHITECTS.

WE'RE PRESERVATION ARCHITECTS UNDER EL LN PAGE, UM, HELPING WITH THE RELOCATION OF THE TRASH HOUSE IN CASTLE BULL HOUSE.

AND, UM, OOPS.

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LOT OF FANCY HERE.

SAM, CAN YOU GO AHEAD IN ADVANCE? OKAY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, AND I MIGHT MENTION A FEW THINGS THAT CALENDAR ALREADY DID, BUT JUST KEY POINTS.

THE TRASH HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1850 AND AS SHE MENTIONED, IT WAS RELOCATED IN 1990, SO IT IS NOT ON ITS ORIGINAL SITE.

IT WAS THEN RENOVATED IN 1992.

UM, CASTLE AND BULL HOUSE BUILT IN 1873.

SO BOTH VERY EARLY HOMES IN AUSTIN, THE CASTLE AND BULL HOUSE, OH, SORRY, THERE WE GO.

IT'S WORKING NOW.

UM, WAS ALSO RELOCATED IN 2001, UM, WHICH CHUCK WAS INVOLVED IN AND THE EXTERIOR RENOVATED IN 2019.

UM, THE CASTLE BULL HOUSE IS A, UM, PROPOSED FOR A NEW AUSTIN, UM, HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

AND THE TRASH HOUSE IS, UH, CURRENTLY AN RTHL ON THIS SIDE YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE IS RED RIVER, AND TO THE NORTH IS EAST THIRD STREET.

UM, ON THE TOP IS THE TRASH HOUSE WITH THE OUTBUILDING BEHIND IT.

THAT DATES TO THE SAME PERIOD THAT WILL ALSO GET RELOCATED, UM, TO THE SOUTH.

IT'S CASTLE BULL HOUSE IN RED.

AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE TRASH HOUSE IS THE HISTORIC ZONING THAT CALLAN MENTIONED THAT IS LOOKING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE.

UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE'RE INDICATING HERE IS JUST THE FUTURE AUSTIN ENERGY DISTRICT, CHILLED WATER PLANT SUBGRADE FOOTPRINT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN BLUE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE TRASH HOUSE IN ITS OUTBUILDING.

AND THEN THE CASTLE AND BILL HOUSE BULL HOUSE RESIDE OVER.

UM, SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK HERE IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

WE'VE GOT A GREAT MOVER ON BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE SITES IN A LITTLE BIT THAT THOSE ARE GONNA GET TEMPORARILY AND PERMANENTLY PLANNED TO GET RELOCATED TO.

AND AS PART OF THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO TAKE PORTIONS OF THE HOUSES OFF.

UM, WHAT I WANTED TO INDICATE IS WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKEN OFF THE PORCHES ON BOTH HOUSES.

THOSE PORTIONS WILL BE BRACED AND TAKEN OFF INDEPENDENT OF THE HOUSES THEMSELVES.

UM, AT THE BOTTOM YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN, UH, BROWN, THAT'S WHERE THE STONE IS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S GONNA BE ACTUALLY KEYED, LABELED, SALVAGED FOR RECONSTRUCTION WHEN IT GETS TO ITS PERMANENT SITE.

UM, AND IT'S ALSO KIND OF DEMARCATES THE, UM, LIMITS OF THE DECONSTRUCTION WHERE WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY LIFT AND MOVE, UM, THE TRASH HOUSE.

THE CHIMNEYS ALSO WILL BE STABILIZED AT THAT TIME.

AND, UM, OTHER ELEMENTS STABILIZED FOR A SAFE MOVE.

CASTSTONE BULL HOUSE, VERY SIMILAR.

UM, BRACED, STABILIZED AND MOVED THE PORCHES AS WELL, SEPARATE FROM THE HOUSES.

THEY'RE GONNA BE ON THE SAME SITE.

UM, BUT THEY WILL BE DETACHED.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, WE WILL TAKE BRICK AND STONE OFF THE BASE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE LIMITS OF DETACHMENT THERE WITH THE DARKER SHADE ON THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA KEY AND SALVAGE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD BE USED IN THEIR RECONSTRUCTION.

SO FORTUNATELY WITH OUR PLANS RIGHT NOW, THE MOVER AND WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING THEM, THE MOVER CAN KEEP THE HOUSES FULLY INTACT, WHICH IS WONDERFUL 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.

UM, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE, THE MOVE.

UM, IT'S ACTUALLY DO DOTSON HOUSE MOVING.

UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE STABILIZING THE HOMES, UM, LIFTING 'EM UP ON BEAMS. UM, WE ARE GONNA GO ON THE PERMANENT MOVE, NEED TO CROSS THE WALL CREEK BRIDGE, WHICH CAN BE DONE BY, UM, SOME BEAMS THAT WILL SPAN TO, UM, LOAD POINTS AT THE ENDS.

SO THEY WON'T ACTUALLY BE LOADING OVER THOSE BRIDGES.

UM, STABILIZE THE CHIMNEYS.

AND ONE FORTUNATE THING IS BECAUSE THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN MOVED BEFORE, UH, THE FOUNDATIONS THAT THEY'RE ON RIGHT NOW HAVE LEAVE OUTS THAT HAVE BEEN FILLED IN WHERE THE BEAMS ACTUALLY WENT FOR THE INITIAL MOVE.

SO ON THIS MOVE, WE'RE LITERALLY GONNA BE TAKING THOSE LEAVE OUTS OUT AGAIN, PUTTING THE BEAMS IN, DETACHING THE, UM, STRUCTURES FROM THEIR FOUNDATIONS AND LIFTING 'EM AND MOVING 'EM SIMILAR TO HOW YOU SEE IN THIS, UH, THESE IMAGES.

SO I'M GONNA SPEAK TO SOME OF THE MOVE LOGISTICS.

UM, AND THE SCHEDULE FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT AND THE DISTRICT CHILLED WATER PLANT, UM, WILL REQUIRE A TEMPORARY LOCATION.

AND SO THAT LOCATION IS, UM, STILL IN FLUX.

IT HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED, BUT THE POTENTIAL LOCATION RIGHT NOW IS ON THIRD STREET, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF THE CURRENT TRASK HOUSE SITE.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL, BUT THIS IS CURRENTLY THE FRONT RUNNER, UM, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THE TRASK HOUSE AND THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE, BOTH TO THE THIRD STREET LOCATION, FOR THE FINAL MOVE OF THE TRASH HOUSE.

IT THAT O LARRY WAS SPEAKING TO, MOVING ACROSS THE WALLER CREEK BRIDGE, DOWN THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD AND, UH, UP CAESAR CHAVEZ TO ITS FINAL LOCATION ON

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I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

FOR THE RECORD, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME? THANK YOU.

IT, I'M JENNY CHILTON WITH LMN PAIGE.

SO THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE, UH, WOULD ALSO, UM, HAVE A SHORTER ROUTE, UH, BACK TO ITS CURRENT LOCATION, JUST IN A ROTATED .

SO LOOKING AT THE TRASH HOUSE, UM, FINAL LOCATION ON THE SITE, A, UM, OF THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER, IT, IT IS ACTUALLY WITHIN 50 FEET OF THE ORIGINAL LOCATION.

AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL A STORY OF THE, THE TRUST HOUSE AND ITS ASSOCIATED OUTBUILDING IN RELATIONSHIP TO WALLER CREEK, AS WELL AS THE NECHES ALIGNMENT.

UM, AND THE SECOND STREET ALIGNMENT PART OF THE CONVENTION CENTER CONCEPT, UM, IS REALLY TO REOPEN SOME OF THE, THE WALKABILITY OF THE ORIGINAL WALLER CREEK GRID.

AND SO THERE WILL BE A, UM, PROMENADE ALONG NECHES STREET THAT WILL BE OPEN, UH, FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, UM, THAT WOULD REPLICATE THAT NECHES ALIGNMENT.

IT WILL ALSO BE ADJACENT TO THE PRE-FUNCTION SPACE AT THE BALLROOM AND, UM, AN OUTDOOR EVENT PLAZA.

UM, THE CONVENTION CENTER IS WANTING TO GO THROUGH, UH, AN INTERPRETIVE, UM, VISITING PROCESS, UM, TO TELL THE STORY OF THESE TWO HOMES AND ACTIVATE, UM, THESE TWO BUILDINGS, UH, BASED ON THE OUTCOMES OF THAT, UH, VISIONING PROCESS.

AND THIS IS A, UM, A SKETCH OF HOW THE, THE TRASH CAL SHOWN IN ORANGE AND IT'S ASSOCIATED OUTBUILDING WOULD SIT WITHIN THE SITE.

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DESIGN WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN LOOKING AT GRADING AND ACCESS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FAIRMONT BRIDGE THAT IS, UH, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THERE WOULD BE A PASSAGE THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE, UH, THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO THESE TWO BUILDINGS WOULD BE, UM, ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THE, THE PUBLIC COULD CONTINUE TO, OR MAYBE EVEN MORE SO, LEARN ABOUT THE STORIES THAT THESE HOUSES HAVE TO TELL.

THEY WILL NOT BE, UM, MOTHBALLED OR STORAGE, THEY'LL BE FULLY ACTIVATED, UM, ENGAGING PIECE LIVE PIECES OF OUR, UM, OF OUR CITY AGAIN.

AND SO THIS RENDERING IS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, YOU SEE THE BALLROOM IN THE FRONT, UM, AND THE, THE SECOND STREET EO, UH, IN THE BACK WITH THE, THE TWO STORY VOLUME AND THE TRASH HOUSE WOULD REALLY BE PART OF THIS NEW ECOSYSTEM WELCOMING VISITORS TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

I THINK, I THINK YOU'VE GOT IT FROM HERE.

I DO.

THE, THE OBSTACLES THAT WE HAVE TO OVERCOME INCLUDE GETTING THE TRASH HOUSE ONTO THIS PART OF OUR SITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF SAY IN CLOSING, I WANTED TO SAY IN CLOSING TOO, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROJECT, IT WAS, UM, GONNA BE A TEMPORARY RELOCATION ONLY OF THESE HOUSES, UH, WEREN'T SURE WHAT, WHERE THEY WERE GONNA ULTIMATELY END UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF, THE WHOLE TEAM REALLY SCRAMBLED L AND PAIGE, RILEY, UM, KIM, OTHERS AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND, UM, TO TARGET PERMANENT SITES, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE HOMES SO THEY COULD REALLY GET IN AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION AND GET A NEW USE AND HAVE NEW LIFE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THE COMMUNITY FOR DECADES TO COME.

AND SO IT'S REALLY TURNED IN TO ME, HONESTLY FOR, TO A GREAT SUCCESS STORY FOR PRESERVATION IN AUSTIN, AND I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE PROUD OF IT.

AND GLAD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING NEW LIFE TO THESE BUILDINGS THAT YOU KNOW, OTHER SITES.

WELL, I, I CAN ALREADY ASKED THE QUESTION THEN.

MR. ICK, DO YOU HAVE A, A CHECKLIST OR, OR CAN YOU SAY FOR SURE WHEN WE'LL KNOW THAT THE RED RIVER SITE IS IN FACT THE FINAL DESTINATION? NO, BACK TO YOU.

THAT'S THE WAY THIS PROJECT GOES.

YEAH, .

UM, SO WHERE THE, WHEN, WHEN THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE WILL RETURN TO THE RED RIVER LOCATION? WAS THAT THE QUESTION? WHEN WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE NO, WHETHER OR NOT THE TRASK STAYS HERE OR GOES TO, UH, OH.

PIONEER FARM.

AH.

UM, SO, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE WORKED ON OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT, UH, FEW MONTHS.

UM, I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN WE'LL KNOW FOR SURE WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

DO WE HAVE CRITERIA, DO WE KNOW WHAT'S DETERMINING THIS FACTOR? YES.

IT'S NOT JUST WHETHER OR NOT WE LIKE IT, CORRECT? NO, WE ALL LOVE THE IDEA.

UM, THE, UH,

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UH, WE'VE MAPPED OUT THE, THE ROUTE AS JENNY WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THERE ARE SOME GRADE CHALLENGES IN ORDER TO GET THAT HOUSE UP ON ONTO THAT, UH, PLINTH THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.

UM, AND SO I THINK WORKING THAT OUT IS GOING TO BE KIND OF THE KEY AND THE CRITICAL PATH ELEMENT TO KNOWING THAT WE CAN DO THIS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, WORKING ON THE REHABILITATION, UH, EFFORTS, THE NEW FOUNDATION UTILITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, UH, THAT WILL COME AFTER THAT AND NOT BE A DETERMINING FACTOR AND WHETHER THIS CAN BE THERE, THAT, THAT CAN HAPPEN, THAT'S EASY.

THE CITY WITHOUT HAVING A BUILDING PERMIT IN THE NEW LOCATION, WHICH MEANT SOME SCRAMBLING.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT YOU RAISED? COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? IT'S STILL IN THE BLIND, RIGHT? LIKE, YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT CHAIR, WHAT IS THE ASK OF US TONIGHT? AND MAYBE THAT HELPS US.

WELL, AT, AT THIS POINT, UH, WE HAVE A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTIES FIRST THAT THEY ARE SITTING ON.

AND IN ONE, WHEN THAT CHANGE IS MADE, THEN IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE MOVES TO COMMENCE.

THEN WE'RE ALSO BEING ASKED FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHICH WOULD BE THE PROCESS OF THESE MOVES, WHICH WE'D ALSO SAW.

I THINK THAT WOULD COVER ALL OF IT WE'RE BEING ASKED FOR TONIGHT.

IS THAT RIGHT? STAFF? RIGHT CHAIR.

WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF AHEAD OF OURSELVES IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, FIRST THE ZONING, UH, NEEDS TO BE APPROVED.

AND THEN, UM, THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE MOVES THEMSELVES, UH, WOULD BE OUR NEXT ITEMS. AND WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE INTERESTING IS AN, UH, UH, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INSIDE BASEBALL, BUT I HAPPEN TO HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH HOUSE MOVES IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND UNLESS THEY'VE CHANGED THE CODE, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE, YOU CAN'T MOVE A PROPERTY, UH, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN WITHOUT HAVING A BUILDING PERMIT ON THE NEW LOCATION.

NOW, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT WAIVED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT ILLUSTRATION OF WHY THAT IS AN UN IN SOME CASES, AN INFLEXIBILITY THAT PROBABLY HAS COST US HOUSES THAT COULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN SAVED, WHERE WE CAN TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE THREAT, BUT DON'T QUITE HAVE EVERYTHING WORKED OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

AND HAVING A TRANSITION OR A TEMPORARY REP REPRIEVE LOCATION IS BENEFICIAL.

BUT, UH, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF TIMES I'VE TRIED THAT, UH, THE CODE WOULDN'T ALLOW IT, AND I THINK WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ALL RIGHT WITH THAT.

OUR BUILDING PERMIT, UH, GOES IN THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER, UH, TO START THAT PROCESS.

UH, AND SO BY THEN WE WILL, UM, WE WILL KNOW WITH MORE CERTAINTY WHETHER THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE POSSIBLE WITH THE TRASH HOUSE.

SO I THINK IT CAN BE PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

UH, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY MOVE THAT BUILDING, UH, FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW IT FITS IN WITH OUR TIMELINE, MAYBE JENNY HAS AN IDEA THE, THE HOUSES WILL NEED TO COMMENCE MOVING THIS OCTOBER TO DECEMBER TO A TEMPORARY SITE, AND I THINK THAT'S YOUR POINT, RIGHT? UM, AND, UM, WE DO HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT.

IT'S NOT THE FULL BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER CURRENTLY.

UH, SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT BOX THERE.

BUT ON THE DCP UH, SITE, THE WALLER PAVILION SITE, WHERE THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE WILL BE RETURNING TO THAT PERMIT TIMELINE IS DIFFERENT.

UM, IT'S LATER.

SO WE COULD LOOK AT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, HOW THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE IS COMING BACK TO THE SAME LOCATION, WE COULD LOOK AT PERHAPS A SEPARATE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THAT, IF THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT OR IF THERE IS SOME REASON FOR A VARIANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR JUST BASICALLY THE TRANSITION.

UH, CERTAINLY IF YOU NEED IT TO COME BY HERE, WE, YOU KNOW, IT, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

UH, I THINK I'M NOT SPEAKING OUTTA TURN AND SUGGESTING THAT, UH, THE IMMENSE EFFORT THAT YOU'VE MADE TO KEEP THESE BUILDINGS IN THE PROXIMITY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND IN THE CRISIS OF THE TRI HOUSE CLOSE TO ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION IS, IS HUGE.

AND WHATEVER IT TAKES, UH, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT.

BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M JUMPING AHEAD, BUT I JUST, I, I KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE LITTLE QUIRKS OF THE CODE, AND IF YOU HAD DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY YOU ADDRESSED IT, YOU MAY NEED TO EXAMINE EXACTLY THAT PULLING OF THE PERMIT TO MOVE AND THE LOCATION IT'S GOING TO.

UH, IF IT'S NOT A FULL BUILDING PERMIT, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE COVERED WITH SOME BUILDING PERMIT, UM, BECAUSE IT IS, AS I EXPERIENCED IT, I WAS OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE HOUSE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, OUT OF THE CITY WITHOUT A PERMIT FOR ITS NEW LOCATION, BUT I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO RELOCATE IT WITHIN

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SO TO PREVENT POTENTIAL SCRAMBLING FOR YOU ALL, YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.

UH, AGAIN, COMMISSIONS.

I'M SORRY IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS.

I'M BEING TO MONOPOLIZE NO CHAIR.

I, I'M FINE WITH CASMAN BULL.

IT'S THE TRASH HOUSE THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED SITE AND PIONEER FARM'S.

A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND I'M JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE MAKING THE ASK WITHOUT THE CONFIRMATION THAT IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

SO KAYLYN, WALK ME THROUGH MY OPTIONS TONIGHT AS A, SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TWO CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DOING ZONING.

UM, AND KIM, DID YOU HAVE, WELL, I JUST, BIG PICTURE, I JUST, MAYBE IT WILL HELP.

I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY WITH THE TRUST HOUSE, ONE OF THE I ZONING ITEMS, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, IS TO REMOVE THIS HISTORIC ZONING FROM THE EXISTING SITE SO THAT THE, THE DOWNTOWN CHILLER PLANT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED.

IN YOUR BACKUP, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S AN MOU BETWEEN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THAT, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE THAT SAYS THE CONVENTIONS CENTER PLEDGES TO ZONE THIS, UM, THIS, UH, BUILDING HISTORIC IN ITS NEW LOCATION WHEN THAT'S DETERMINED, WE DO HAVE A, IN TERMS OF THE CASTLEMAN BULL, THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY A LANDMARK, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GAINING A LANDMARK IN THIS PROCESS.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS AN INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE FOOTPRINT WHERE THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE WILL GO.

UM, SOMETHING TO BEAR IN MIND IS THAT WE DO HAVE VERY CLEAR DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL'S MEETING JUNE 5TH TO, TO DO WHAT IS EV WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO GET THIS, UM, DEALT WITH IN TERMS OF REMOVING HISTORIC PRES, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION ISSUE AS AN OBSTACLE.

UM, AND SO THE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE VERY BEST WE CAN DO, WHICH IS TO SAY WE'VE GOT TWO VIABLE OPTIONS.

UM, INITIALLY PIONEER FARMS WAS THE LOCATION, AND THAT WAS WHERE THE DIRECTION WE WERE GOING IN THAT IS THE SITE THAT'S ALREADY ZONED HISTORIC.

UM, BUT, UM, AFTER WE HAD, UM, AFTER THE TEAM HAD PRESENTED IN, UM, AT THE MAY, UH, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT'S WHEN THE DESIGN TEAM CAME UP WITH A NEW IDEA, WHICH WAS, COULD WE POTENTIALLY KEEP THIS IN, IN, IN DOWNTOWN? SO THE WAY WE'VE STRUCTURED, UM, WHEN YOU'LL SEE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHICH IS GONNA BE NEXT, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY THAT IS MAYBE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT REQUIRES, GIVEN THE INCREDIBLY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE AND AS WELL AS THE, THE DIRECTION SPECIFICALLY FROM COUNCIL TO GET THIS DEALT WITH.

SO IF HOPE, HOPEFULLY THAT EXPLAINS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

IT IT IS A SITUATION THAT YOU WOULDN'T VERY COMMONLY SEE.

AND I THINK NO, I, I UNDERSTAND.

HOUSE, UH, CAN BE MODIFIED IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE MOVE, UM, WHICH INCLUDES REMOVAL OF THE AGE ZONING WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY SITTING, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCILMAN BULL HOUSE IS GOING TO RETURN TO A HISTORIC ZONED PROPERTY.

IT KIND TELLS ME NOW'S THE TIME WE HAVE LEVERAGE.

SO I I, I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF IT.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO POINT CLEARLY ON IS THAT, SO IF WE, OBVIOUSLY THE HISTORIC ZONING IS SEPARATELY, YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR MIC ON.

SO, ALRIGHT, THE ZONING IS SEPARATELY, BUT LIKE IN THE SECOND PART THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO AND WE RELEASE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, IT SEEMS AT THAT POINT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS THAT, THAT IT WILL NOT COME BEFORE THIS BODY AGAIN.

AND SO IS THAT TRUE OR NOT? 'CAUSE IF IT COMES BEFORE THIS BODY, AGAIN, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON, HEY, WE'VE DECIDED TO JUST SHOVE IT OVER HERE, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S A SEPARATE QUESTION.

THEN WE LOSE ALL OF OUR, AS CHUCK SAID, OUR LEVERAGE IN VOTING THIS TONIGHT, AND THEN YOU GUYS GO AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION THAT I'D LIKE AN ANSWER TO.

HMM.

IF THERE ARE UPDATES, SIGNIFICANT UPDATES TO THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BUILDING IS GOING, IF THERE'S A THIRD OPTION, IT WILL NEED TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY, BUT WE RIGHT NOW IT'S OPEN ENDED ENOUGH, THAT'S CORRECT.

BE TWO, TWO CURRENT OPTIONS.

SO WE'RE VOTING ON ALLOWING IT TO GO TO ONE OR THE OTHER.

RIGHT.

UM, ACTUALLY WE SHOULD CLARIFY, AS I UNDERSTAND, THE ZONING CHANGE IS JUST TO BEGIN OR ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY, THE LEVERAGE QUESTION OR THE LOCATION QUESTION AS I UNDERSTAND WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THE LEVERAGE QUESTION IS AN EIGHT OR NINE NOT RIGHT.

YOU GOT IT.

SO IN ORDER THAT WE COULD PROCEED, IS THAT RIGHT? UNLESS THERE'S MORE CLAR NEED FOR CLARIFICATION.

UH, I BELIEVE THE ZONING REQUEST TO ADD ZONING FOR THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE PROPERTY, WHERE IT'S GONNA BE RELOCATED AND WHERE IT'S ALL SET TO COME BACK TO REMOVE THE ZONING.

SO THE TRASK HOUSE CAN BE NOT ONLY REMOVED, BUT ALSO NON HISTORIC INTERVENTION THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE WITH THE, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION CAN ALSO PROCEED.

AND THEN THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHICH IS WHAT TO DO WITH BOTH OF THOSE STRUCTURES COMES AFTER.

AM I CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, CHAIR.

UH, THE PROCEDURALLY, UH, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE TRASH

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UM, AND WE CAN'T PROCEED WITH THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS UNTIL WE HAVE, UM, THE ZONING FOR THE TRASH HOUSE CLEARED UP AND UNTIL WE HAVE A PENDING HISTORIC ZONING CASE FOR THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE IN PROGRESS PER OUR CODE.

SO, UM, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING, WHICH IS WHY YOU POSTED ITEM NUMBER FIVE SEPARATELY UNDER HISTORIC ZONING.

ALRIGHT, SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, COMMISSIONERS? UH, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE WE CAN, I CAN TAKE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR ZONING CHANGES.

SEVERAL OF THEM, UH, AS NOTED IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, TO BEGIN FACILITATING THESE MOVES, UH, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE OF A REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER TO GET THIS GOING WHERE THE TRASH HOUSE IS CONCERNED PER, PER THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, PER THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND DOES THAT REQUIRE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DO WE NEED TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION IS OPEN.

OH, OKAY.

SO I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

WE DIDN'T ASK IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO SPEAK, WE NEEDED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE COULD REOPEN IT.

I JUMPED AHEAD OF MYSELF.

EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER, IF, RIGHT.

UH, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? AND SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ACTUALLY, DO YOU HAVE ONE QUESTION? YES, PLEASE.

UH, YEAH, UM, MAYBE IT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION, BUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SAYS TO GRANT PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES FROM CBDH TO CBD TRACT ONE, THEN CBD TO CBD TRACKS TWO AND THREE, UH, THAT JUST SAYS CBD TO CBD WAS THERE, I I GUESS I'M MISSING THE DISTINCTION THERE.

UH, AND THEN I DO SEE CBD TO CBDH FOR TRACK FOUR.

UH, YES, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, UH, YOUR ZONING MAP, UM, TRACTS, UH, TWO AND THREE ARE THE VACATED ALLEYWAY AND ALSO THE, UH, THE TRACT, UM, THAT'S AROUND THE, UH, PROPOSED CASTLEMAN BULL SITE.

UM, SO THOSE ARE ALREADY ZONED CBD AND THEY'RE NOT CHANGING.

BUT IN ORDER TO TAKE ALL OF THESE, UM, TOGETHER AS ONE ZONING CASE, THE AREA THAT IS TO BE REZONED NEEDS TO BE CONTIGUOUS.

SO TRACKS TWO AND THREE ARE NOT UNDERGOING ANY ZONING CHANGE, IT'S JUST A PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENT OF THE REZONING PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

OKAY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? UH, ALRIGHT THEN.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, COMMISSIONER UPRIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND THAT? I WILL SECOND THIS.

ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

AGAIN, I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED IS UNANIMOUS.

NOW I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION COMMISSIONER UPRIGHT THAT WE, YOU'RE READY? ALRIGHT.

FOR A MOTION.

ALRIGHT, THEN THAT WE GO AHEAD AND, I'M SORRY.

OH, YOU WERE, YOU WERE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE YES, THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGES.

OH, THANK YOU.

I DO ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, YES, I DO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, MOVE TO REQUEST THE ZONING CHANGES AS, AS, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ON ITEM FIVE.

ALRIGHT, THEN TECHNICAL QUESTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE SECONDS.

ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER FRIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MENTION MOTION, UH, DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? YES.

AND, AND BY THE WAY, YOU WOULD, UM, HAVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER TO MAKE A MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT? FOR HISTORIC ZONING? UH, SO THAT STAYS OKAY.

ALRIGHT, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I'M, I'M JUST VERY, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THESE, THESE TWO PROPERTIES.

WELL, SPECIFICALLY, WELL I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH OF THEM, BUT WITH THE TRASH COWS, UH, I'M SORRY, WHERE WAS IT LOCATED ORIGINALLY? UH, COMMISSIONER THE TRUSTS HOUSE WAS LOCATED AT ONE OH FIVES, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT 50 FEET, I THINK FROM THE PROPOSED, UH, YOU KNOW, PREFERRED OPTION.

I SEE.

THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

THEN IT'S ACTUALLY THE SAME LOCK.

UH, UH, UH, PREDOMINANTLY GERMAN AND SWEDISH, YOU KNOW, SO, YES.

IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME FOOTPRINT QUITE, I SEE, I SEE, I SEE.

YEAH, IT'S A VERY, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IT FIGURES PROMINENTLY IN AUSTIN'S HISTORY AND SO IT, IT WAS IN AN AREA THAT WAS, I THINK,

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AND MR. MCGUIRE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MENTION YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONERS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

I THINK ALL OF US UNDER APPRECIATE, UH, THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK.

THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE HOPEFULLY MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON, BUT AT LEAST, UH, MOVING OFF, ALLOWING IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN BEING ABLE TO RELOCATE ALL OF THAT, UH, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF, AND I CERTAINLY CAN SUPPORT THE MOTION AS WELL.

SO COMMISSIONERS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT YOU'VE HEARD FOR THE ZONING CHANGE, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, SO THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

TO PROCEED NOW WITH THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.

UH, I'LL OPPOSE NONE AND WE WILL BE ABLE

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ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO RELOCATE THE TRASH HOUSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 0 2 5 0 6 0 5 DASH 22, DIRECTING STAFF TO FACILITATE THE REZONING OF THE CONVENTION CENTER PROPERTIES.

UM, AS WE'VE HEARD, THE PROJECT SPECIFIES RELOCATION OF THE TRASH HOUSE AND ITS OUTBUILDING TO THE CONVENTION CENTER PROPERTY NEAR THE CORNER OF RED RIVER STREET IN EAST CESAR CHAVEZ, APPROXIMATELY THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATIONS PER THE SANBORN MAPS, THE BUILDING'S CURRENT SITE WILL BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW UNDERGROUND CHILLER FACILITY AND HISTORIC ZONING, UH, HAS BEEN REMOVED OR WILL BE REMOVED FROM TWO 17 RED RIVER STREET AND REAPPLIED TO THE NEW SITE WHEN THE HOUSE REACHES ITS FINAL LOCATION.

PER THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT FOUND IN YOUR BACKUP, SHOULD LOCATION TO THE CONVENTION CENTER PROPERTY PROVE I POSSIBLE THE BUILDING WILL BE RELOCATED TO PIONEER FARMS, WHICH IS ALREADY ZONED HISTORIC, WHERE IT WILL SERVE TO EDUCATE VISITORS ABOUT EARLY AUSTIN.

UM, THE PROJECT SPECIFICATIONS, UH, FOR THE MOVE INCLUDE PREPARATION OF THE BUILDINGS FOR MOVING, INCLUDING BRACING AND PHOTOGRAPHIC DOCUMENTATION.

AS MR. SIG HAS DESCRIBED.

UM, THE BUILDINGS WILL BE MOVED THEN TO THE TEMPORARY STAGING AREA ON EAST THIRD STREET, UM, FOR STORAGE DURING THE CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION AND MOTHBALL ACCORDING TO BEST PRACTICES OUTLINED BY THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

AND THE BUILDINGS WILL BE FINALLY MOVED, UH, TO THEIR, THEIR, UH, END LOCATION AND THE MASONRY AND PORCH WILL BE REATTACHED.

THE STRUCTURES WILL BE INTEGRATED WITH NEW LANDSCAPING AND INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE WILL BE INSTALLED, UM, AND THE HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE NEW SITE WILL THEN BE REQUESTED AT THAT TIME PER THE MOU.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BASED ON THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION AND ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS AT HISTORIC LANDMARKS.

THE APPLICANTS HAVE EVALUATED MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVES TO RELOCATION AND HAVE DETERMINED THAT MOVING THE HOUSE AND THE OUTBUILDING IS THE ONLY WAY TO PRESERVE THEM.

AS THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANDS BY MOVING THE HOUSE CLOSER TO ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION, THE PROPOSAL WILL RETURN SOME OF ITS ORIGINAL HISTORIC CONTEXT.

A SUITABLE BACKUP SITE AT PIONEER FARMS HAS ALSO BEEN CHOSEN OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES APPROPRIATE MEASURES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE BUILDING BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER RELOCATION AND APPLICANTS HAVE CONFERRED WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS OPTIONS FOR RELOCATION AND MOTHBALLING DURING ANY REQUIRED STORAGE PERIODS.

UH, THE COMMITTEE, UH, RECOMMENDED RELOCATION OF THE BUILDING AS CLOSE TO ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION AS POSSIBLE, AND, UH, NOTED THAT RELOCATION TO EITHER SITE IT WAS APPROPRIATE AS LONG AS BOTH BUILDINGS REMAIN INTACT.

UM, THE COMMITTEE MENTIONED THAT THE BUILDING SHOULD BE STORED CLOSE TO ITS FINAL LOCATION AND THAT THE STRUCTURE ONCE PLACED SHOULD BE ACTIVATED TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO EXPERIENCE THEM INSIDE AND OUT.

UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, THE TRUST HOUSE LOCATED AT TWO 17 RED RIVER STREET IS TO CONCUR WITH THE COMMITTEE'S FEEDBACK AND TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

ITEM NINE, UH, THE, UH, THE PARTNER CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ITEM EIGHT IS 2 0 1 RED RIVER STREET.

THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO RELOCATE THE CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 20 25 0 6 0 5 DASH 22.

UM, THE PROJECT SPECIFICATIONS ARE SIMILAR TO ITEM EIGHT, UM, WHICH IS PREPARING THE BUILDING FOR MOVING, UM, INCLUDING BRACING IN PHOTOGRAPHIC DOCUMENTATION AS SHOWN IN MR. EK'S PRESENTATION AND IN YOUR BACKUP, UM, AND THE MOVE OF THE BUILDING TO THE TEMPORARY STAGING AREA AND BEST PRACTICE MOTHBALLING.

UM, AND FINALLY, THE BUILDING WILL BE MOVED TO ITS FINAL LOCATION WITHIN THE NEWLY AGE ZONED PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, IT'LL BE ROTATED, ROTATED 90 DEGREES TO FACE THE WATERLOO GREENWAY TRAILHEAD.

UM, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THAT TRAP ASITE AREA TRACKED FOUR IN YOUR BACKUP.

UM, AND AGAIN, UM, THIS PROJECT WAS EVALUATED ACCORDING TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, STAFF AND COMMITTEE KNOW THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE EVALUATED MULTIPLE ALTERNATIVES TO RELOCATION AND HAVE DETERMINED THAT MOVING THIS HOUSE AND ROTATING IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO PRESERVE IT.

AS THE CONVENTION CENTER IN THAT CHILLER SITE EXPANDS, UM,

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ROTATING IT, IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED.

UM, IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO FURTHER DAMAGE ITS HISTORIC CONTEXT.

UM, AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE ALREADY CONFERRED WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS OPTIONS FOR RELOCATION AND MOTHBALLING DURING THE REQUIRED STORAGE PERIOD.

UM, THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED, AGAIN, RETENTION OF THE BUILDING ON THE SAME LOT AND WORKING WITH WATERLOO GREENWAY TO REUSE THE PROPERTY AS A COMMUNITY ASSET, ACTIVATING THE STRUCTURE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO EXPERIENCE THEM INSIDE AND OUT, UM, AND TO STORE THE BUILDING CLOSE TO ITS FINAL LOCATION.

UH, AND, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE FEEDBACK, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY OF STAFF THIS MOMENT? UH, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT YOU NEED TO, UH, ELABORATE ON OR EXPAND, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT MAYBE IS NOT ADDRESSED TO STAFF, BUT PERHAPS TO YOU ALL.

UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPLICATION IF WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE ALL OF THIS REQUEST AT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE TRASH HOUSE, BUT AT LEAST AT THIS POINT, HOLD OFF ON THE PIONEER FARM ALTERNATIVE.

UH, THAT RIGHT NOW IS STATED AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF.

I KNOW WHY IT'S THERE.

IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED THAT THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE ONLY OPTION FOR A WHILE, BUT IF IN FACT, THESE PROPERTIES, THE TRASH HOUSE IS GONNA BE IN STORAGE AND SOME OF THIS WORK IS GOING TO PROCEED LONG BEFORE THAT FINAL DECISION COULD BE MADE, IF WE FIND THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON THE PREFERRED LOCATION ISN'T VIABLE, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU AND WE COULD THEN HAVE AN ALTERNATE MOTION AT THAT TIME.

BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER IMPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF.

THAT'S WHY I'M POSING THAT TO YOU ALL AS A QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR CONCERNS WITH PIONEER FARMS THAT MAYBE WE COULD ADDRESS HERE? ONLY THAT, UH, IT HAPPENED, I THINK AS IT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, WITHOUT US REALLY FULLY DIGESTING OR KNOWING THE OPTIONS OR PERHAPS BEING UNCLEAR THAT THESE ARE NOT IN OUR OPINIONS EQUAL CHOICES.

YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S FAIR.

UM, I DON'T KNOW PROCESS WISE WHAT THAT WOULD KIND OF MEAN TO OUR PATH THROUGH ALL OF THIS AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE FOR OUR ACTIONS NOW.

UH, BUT IF WE HAVE A CLEAR PATH FORWARD WITH THE TASK OPTION ON THE COMMISSION CENTER SITE NOW, AND WE CAN KEEP GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, ASSUMING THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THAT NEEDED TO CHANGE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD AS AN UPDATE, UM, UH, TO GET THAT ALTERNATE SITE APPROVED OR OTHER SITES IF THEY MAY COME UP.

I'M PERSONALLY OKAY WITH THAT.

I MEAN, THAT'S VERY FAIR.

UM, DO YOU ALL HAVE SEE ANY NO, I'M TOO, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S NOT ULTIMATELY GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I PROBABLY HAVE TOO MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT I THINK DESIGNATING ONE SITE RIGHT NOW AND TO DESIGNATING ONE SITE RIGHT NOW, NOT TWO, WITH ONE AS A BACKUP, AND THEN IF THERE'S A CHANGE AND IT ENDS UP GOING TO PIONEER FARM TO COME BACK TO, UM, THE COMMISSION AND SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE AND WHAT THE ACTUAL SITE WOULD BE ON THAT, UM, PROPERTY I THINK WOULD BE TOTALLY FINE AND VERY APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.

IF WE, IF THERE'S A CHANGE, IF, YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

UH, THE, THE DESIGN, UM, WHEELS ARE IN MOTION TO MAKE SURE THIS TRASH HOUSE SITE, UM, WILL WORK.

SO IF WE RUN INTO ROADBLOCKS, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

YEAH, FANTASTIC.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, WELL, THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN APPROPRIATE MEASURE.

I, I DO WANT, I WANT TO FULLY UNDERSTAND, SINCE I'M GETTING THE TUTORIAL FROM LEGAL TONIGHT, CAITLIN, I THOUGHT I WOULD PRY THAT BACK A LITTLE FURTHER.

UM, THE MOU THAT YOU DISCUSSED IN OUR BACKUP, IS THAT THE MEMORANDUM THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE JUNE 25TH MEMORANDUM? BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN MOU JUST WANNA MAKE OH, JUST COMMISSIONER, I DON'T HAVE THE BACKUP PULLED UP.

LET ME, THAT'S FINE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.

UH, YES, IT IS A JUNE 25TH, 2025, UM, MEMO FROM DIRECTOR TRICIA TROW, UM, AND THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER DEPARTMENT THAT IS, UH, WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER.

OF BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT.

SO THAT, IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT THAT'S A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING CHAIR, AND IT'S ALSO KIND

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THERE'S AMBIGUITY THERE AS TO THE SITE.

SO I THINK, AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION, SINCE I'M ON A ROLL TONIGHT, KAYLIN, I'M SURE YOU'RE THRILLED THAT I'M BACK.

PROBABLY WISH I WAS GO AWAY AGAIN FOR FIVE MONTHS.

UM, OTHER OPTIONS WE HAVE AT OUR PURVIEW, UH, WE COULD INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING ON THE, OUR, UH, LANDMARK DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY IT'S ON, RIGHT? NO TR TRASK IS ALREADY A LANDMARK PROPERTY, THOUGH OUR PREVIOUS MOTION JUST WENT AHEAD AND REMOVED THAT OR BEGAN THE PROCESS OF REMOVING IT.

UH, THE CASTLEMAN BULL, HOWEVER, IS NOT RIGHT.

AND SO WERE WE TO, OVER THE APPLICANT'S OBJECTION, DECIDE THAT WE WANTED TO ZONE IT, UH, WE WOULD THROW A MONKEY WRENCH IN ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, BUT YES, THAT TECHNICALLY IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN OPTION RIGHT NOW IN THE LONG RUN.

HOWEVER, THE VERY THING YOU'VE MENTIONED, WHICH IS GAINING HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE CASTLE AND BULL HOUSE, THAT ACTUALLY IS WHAT THE INTENT IS AND HAS CERTAINLY BEEN NOTED FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH I THINK YOU CORRECTLY IDENTIFY, UH, WE'RE STILL HAVING TO WORK ON EVERYBODY COOPERATING FOR THAT FINAL ACT TO TAKE PLACE.

WE'RE, WE'VE GOT AS MUCH GUARANTEE AS WE'RE GONNA GET THAT IT COMES BACK TO THE HISTORIC SITE.

WE'VE ALREADY ZONED HISTORIC AND DESIGNATED FOR IT, BUT STILL HAS TO COME BACK.

BUT IF WE TAKE THE ACTION WE'RE DISCUSSING AND PROPOSED, IT HAS TO COME BACK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THE TRASH THE TRASH COLUMN.

THE TRASH HOUSE.

IF THE, UH, IF THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION EXCEPT FOR THE FALLBACK IN PIONEER FARM, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS WHAT THE, WAS CLARIFIED, JUST WOULD, WOULD ACTUALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK.

UH, THEN THAT MOTION WOULD, UH, DEFINITELY INDICATE THAT THE TRASK IS TEMPORARILY OFFSITE FOR THE PURPOSE OF GOING ONCE AGAIN TO A HISTORIC SITE THAT IS BEING PREPARED, BUT THERE STILL WOULD BE NEEDING THAT FINAL DETERMINATION.

UM, AND CERTAINLY IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGE TO THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.

LET ME CLARIFY, JUST, UM, SO, UH, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS MAY COME BACK IF THERE IS A CHANGE.

UM, BUT WE WILL SEE THE TRASH HOUSE COME BACK UNDER A HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATION, UM, FOR THE NEW SITE AT EAST THIRD IN CAESAR CHAVEZ.

UM, IF IT DOES IN FACT GO THERE, WE WILL SEE THAT THAT IS WHAT, UM, THE MEMO PROVIDED TO US, UM, STATES.

SO WE'LL SEE THAT IF THE HOUSE ENDS UP GOING TO PIONEER FARMS, THERE WON'T BE ANY REASON TO DO AN ADDITIONAL ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE PIONEER FARMS PROPERTIES IS ALREADY ZONED AGE.

SO IF IT GOES TO PIONEER FARMS, WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SEE IT AGAIN BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO, UH, THE ZONING WOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.

UM, AND SO MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IN CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED, ITS UNANIMOUS.

I'M SORRY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ACTON.

UH, COMMISSIONER ROCHE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON EITHER, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT OR NINE, OR BOTH? WELL, I'LL TAKE THEM, I'LL TAKE THEM BOTH.

UH, SUPPORTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE LIMIT THE TRASK HOUSE RELOCATION TO THE PREFERRED, UH, LOCATION AS DESIGNATED WITH NO EXCEPTIONS.

SO THIS WOULD BE, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WOULD BE, UH, APPROVAL FOR BOTH THE, UH, ITEM EIGHT AND NINE, THE TRASH HOUSE AND THE CASTLEMAN BOWL HOUSE, UH, AS PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ON ITEM EIGHT, DELETING THE POTENTIAL, UH, ALTERNATE SITE, UH, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, UH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK IF THAT'S THE CASE AND DISCUSS, WELL, DON'T SAY WE HAVE TO HAVE IN LIGHT OF THE FACT IT'S JUST, YEAH, THAT, YEAH.

THAT, THAT WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD BE, THAT, THAT CORRECT ALTERNATE SITE BE BEING DELETED.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER ACTON SECONDS.

UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? WELL, I THINK IT'S BEEN CLEAR AND STATED.

I THINK EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY KINDA UNDERSTANDS

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WHERE I'M NOW COMMISSIONER ACTON.

UH, JUST CLARIFYING THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S DOABLE.

WE CAN VOTE IN IT THAT WAY WITH THAT, WITH REMOVING THAT PIECE.

NO, NO MORE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

AND YOUR MOTION INCLUDED CLOSING REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THAT REQUIRED FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS? YES.

I DO WANNA CLARIFY THOUGH THAT, UM, IF PIONEER FARMS IS DELETED AT THIS POINT, UM, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE OPTION OF PIONEER FARMS, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, IF THIS COMES BACK TO US, UM, WELL, THEY, TO, WELL, THEY'D WANT TO, THEY'D HAVE TO WANT TO IN THE FUTURE.

THEY HAVE TO WANT TO IN THE FUTURE.

AND WE, AND WE CAN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, FORCE THEM TO TAKE A HOUSE.

SO, UM, WE MAY BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE NO LONGER HAVE THE PIONEER FARMS OPTION, UM, IN THE FUTURE, UM, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FUTURE PROBLEM.

OKAY, , IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FURTHER ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, WE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. ALRIGHT, UH, THEN NO MORE DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, SO THEREFORE IT'S UNANIMOUS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S LONG AND DRAWN OUT, BUT MY GOSH, THESE FOLKS ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DESERVING LOTS OF STARS FROM US.

UH, THIS IS A LOT OF WORK, BUT WE KNOW THAT AS MUCH AS THE CITY WILL BE BENEFITING FROM ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE CITY WILL ABSOLUTELY BENEFIT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME BECAUSE YOU SAVE BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES, UH, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE MOVED ANYMORE.

SO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

NOW ONTO ITEM NUMBER SIX, 600 HEARIN STREET.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE HAVE FOUR REMAINING DISCUSSION CASES AND I WILL PROCEED

[6. HR-2025-057874 – 600 Harthan St. Harthan Street Local Historic District Council District 9]

AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, ALSO WE PULLED THAT AS THERE IS A, UH, SOMEONE OPPOSED.

SO, STAFF.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, CHAIR.

MOVING BACK TO ITEM SIX, UH, HR 20 25 0 5 7 8 7 4.

THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AT 600 HEARIN STREET, UM, THAT Y'ALL SAW LAST MONTH.

UH, THE PROPOSAL HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM WHAT Y'ALL SAW.

UM, IT IS NOW TO DEMOLISH SECONDARY BUILDINGS AND TO CONSTRUCT AN ADDITION TO A CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND TO REMODEL THE PRESERVE PORTION OF THAT CONTRIBUTING HOUSE.

THE APPLICANT HAS AMENDED THE APPLICATION THAT CAME BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH, UM, AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

UM, AND, UH, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INCLUDED DEMOLITION OF ALL BUILDINGS ON THE LOT, UM, AND NOW IT INCLUDES A, UH, A PARTIAL DEMOLITION RATHER THAN A TOTAL DEMOLITION AND, UM, RETENTION AND REHABILITATION OF THE HISTORIC ZONED OR THE HISTORIC AGE PORTIONS OF THE CONTRIBUTING PRIMARY BUILDING.

UM, COMMISSIONER COOK, UM, WHO REGRETTABLY ISN'T HERE TONIGHT, UM, REQUESTED PROPERTY RESEARCH, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS, UH, NOT SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY DO FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

SO IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, THIS IS GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN USUAL.

UM, THE BUILDINGS AT 600 HEARIN STREET WERE CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS AND 1984.

THE EARLIEST BUILDING OF VICTORIAN HOME ADDRESSED AS 1208 WEST SIXTH STREET.

IT WAS BUILT BY THE HARIN FAMILY AFTER PURCHASING THE LOT FROM THE JERNIGAN WHO OWNED MUCH OF THE AREA PRIOR TO ITS TURN OF THE CENTURY SUBDIVISION.

DR.

HANS HAREN, A GERMAN MUSICIAN AND COMPOSER, WAS THE FIRST DIRECTOR OF THE AUSTIN SYMPHONY AND TAUGHT MUSIC OUT OF HIS HOME STUDIO.

HARIN HAD SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE IMPERIAL CONSERVATORY IN ODESSA, RUSSIA BEFORE IMMIGRATING TO TEXAS AND BEFORE MOVING TO AUSTIN, HE HAD BEEN THE DIRECTOR OF MUSIC AT BAYLOR COLLEGE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.

AROUND 1922, DR. DAVID LANE, A DENTIST PURCHASED THE LARGE PROPERTY.

THE CIRCA 1930 VILLA CONSTRUCTED ON THE ADJACENT LOT WAS DESIGNED BY ROY C. LANE.

AS PART OF HIS THESIS AT MIT, ROY LANE WORKED PRIMARILY AS AN INTERIOR DESIGNER AND HE ALSO VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME AS A CHOIR MASTER FOR VARIOUS CONGREGATIONS.

HE WAS A TALENTED OPERA SINGER AND MUSICIAN WHO APPEARED IN NUMEROUS LOCAL PRODUCTIONS.

LATER IN THE 1930S, THE LANES COMMISSIONED AN APARTMENT BUILDING TO BE CONSTRUCTED NEXT TO THE MAIN HOUSE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF WHAT HAD BEEN THE HEARTH AND RESIDENCE AROUND 1984.

A LARGE ADDITION TO LANES MEDITERRANEAN VIA DESIGNED BY BLACK ATKINSON VERNO, WAS CONSTRUCTED ON THE CORNER OF HEARIN STREET AND WEST SIXTH STREET.

THE HEARTH AND STREET DESIGN STANDARDS ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, THE UPDATED PROPOSAL INCLUDES REMOVAL OF A MODIFIED NON-ORIGINAL GARAGE AT THE FRONT OF THE MAIN HOUSE, WHICH WILL HAVE A MINOR IMPACT ON THE FACADE AND REMOVAL OF THE NON HISTORIC FRONT ENCLOSED PATIO, NON HISTORIC FRONT ADDITION AND MODIFIED SITE WALLS WILL HELP TO UNCOVER THE ORIGINAL FORM AND MASSING OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING.

THE CIRCA 1930 APARTMENT BUILDING AND THE HEAVILY ALTERED VICTORIAN RESIDENCE WILL STILL BE DEMOLISHED PER THIS PROPOSAL.

UH, HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED PROJECT RESURFACES THE MAIN BUILDING'S STUCCO AND REPLACES

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IT IN KIND RARE DETERIORATED BEYOND REPAIR AND REPLACES THE MAIN BUILDING'S TILE ROOF IN KIND.

IT ALSO REPLACES THE MAIN HOUSE'S WINDOWS AND SECONDARY DOORS WITH ELEMENTS THAT MATCH THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND DOORS BASED ON HIS HISTORIC PHOTOS.

AND THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE DOOR WILL BE REPAIRED AND PRESERVED.

THUS, THE PROJECT MEETS THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS FOR THE MAIN BUILDING.

WHILE DEMOLITION OF SOME STRUCTURES ON THE SITE IS PROPOSED, THE APPLICANT HAS MODIFIED THE PROJECT TO INCLUDE REHABILITATION OF AND PRESERVATION OF THE MAIN CONTRIBUTING HOUSE VISIBLE FROM HEARTH AND STREET.

UH, THIS ITEM WENT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THEIR FEEDBACK INCLUDED DO NOT DEMOLISH THE CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

INCORPORATE THE HISTORIC PORTION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING INTO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT MEETING.

THE HEARIN STREET DESIGN STANDARDS REHABILITATE PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING THAT HAVE BEEN INAPPROPRIATELY ALTERED RATHER THAN DEMOLISHING THE HISTORIC BUILDING ALONG WITH NON HISTORIC ACCRETIONS RETURN TO THE COMMISSION WITH SITE PLANS SHOWING WHICH PART OF THE PROPERTY ARE HISTORIC AGE AND WHICH WERE CONSTRUCTED OUTSIDE THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

AND TO SUPPORT THE MODIFIED REQUEST, UH, THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY TO PRESERVE BUILDING D, WHICH IS THE MAIN 1930 HEARIN STREET RESIDENCE.

THUS, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONCUR WITH THE COMMITTEE FEEDBACK AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS THE UPDATED APP.

APPLICANT HAS UPDATED THEIR REQUEST TO BETTER FIT THE DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS AND INCLUDED COMMITTEE FEEDBACK.

AS A REMINDER, NO DEMOLITION PERMITS MAY BE RELEASED UNTIL NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR THE SITE IS APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.

UM, SO THIS IS, UH, THE FIRST OF TWO PARTS.

THIS IS THE DEMOLITION, UH, AND PARTIAL DEMOLITION REQUEST.

AND THIS ITEM WILL NEED TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN FOR A SECOND CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT SHOWCASES THE NEW DESIGN FOR THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

THAT'S RES.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF? ALL RIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.

GOOD EVENING, JULES KANE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

AND I'LL BE BRIEF CALENDAR DOES GOOD JOB, BUT, UM, MIGHT HELP TO HAVE A VISUAL IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, THE BLUE HATCHING THAT YOU SEE ON HERE, I DUNNO IF THE COLOR'S COMING ACROSS, IT'S CLEARLY, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE ADDITIONS THAT WERE DONE IN THE EIGHT 1980S.

UM, THAT'S PROPOSED FOR DEMO AND THE LOT FOUR WHERE YOU SEE THE D IS OUTLINED IN GREEN.

THAT AREA IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PRESERVE EVERYTHING ELSE IT'S PROPOSED FOR DEMO.

UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO ADD.

UH, KELLEN COVERED EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND COMMISSIONERS, YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD A, A MORE THOROUGH PRESENTATION AT OUR PREVIOUS, UH, MEETING.

THIS WAS POSTPONED.

THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, HAS WEIGHED IN.

UH, I MAY ASK, UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT FIRST? UH, I MAY ASK THE TWO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE WHO ARE WITH US VIRTUALLY TO, UH, IF WOULD, WOULD EITHER OF YOU, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ OR COMMISSIONER GROGAN WANNA WEIGH IN ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN THIS PRESENTATION? BECAUSE, UH, THEY DEFINITELY ARE IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE THINGS I KNOW THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE A RC.

UH, I CAN SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THAT.

UM, THIS APPLICATION NOW WAS MODIFIED TO ACTUALLY KEEP, UM, SOME OF THE, UH, MORE HISTORIC FABRIC WITHIN THE SITE.

SO I THINK THAT WAS A WELCOME CHANGE.

COMMISSIONER GROGAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? NO.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? AND I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE VIRTUALLY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, IS THAT CORRECT? WE DO, UH, MS. TERRY MYERS.

MS. MYERS, WHO USED TO SERVE IN, IN THIS POSITION.

SO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER UH, MEYERS, UH, CHAIR MEYERS, UH, WELCOME.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

HI.

UM, HI.

CAN YOU HEAR, UH, WE'RE HEARING YOU BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING YOU.

OKAY, THAT'S OKAY.

I I, I'M TECHNICALLY IMPAIRED AS YOU KNOW, AND SO COULDN'T FIX OUT HOW TO GET ON.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN CALL IN AND WE CAN HEAR YOU AND THAT'S FINE.

NOW WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU.

IT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, BY THE TEXAS STATE BOARD OF REVIEW FOR NATIONAL REGISTER AND BY THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

UM, I'M HERE.

I AM, UH, TERRY MEYERS, AND I'M CALLING, UM, SOMEWHAT IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN MODIFIED, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I DID THE ORIGINAL SURVEY AND ASSESSMENT OF CONTRIBUTING AND NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES IN THE WEST LANE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDED 600 HARON STREET.

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AND IT WAS LISTED, UM, THE WESTLAND HISTORIC DISTRICT DISTRICT WAS LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

WE CAME BACK THEN AT THE REQUEST OF, UH, NEIGHBORS AND I VOLUNTEERED TO DO AUSTIN'S FIRST LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THAT WAS, UM, THE 10 BUILDINGS ON HORIZON STREET.

UM, I, I LOOKED AT MY ORIGINAL ASSESSMENTS AGAIN, AND, UM, THIS WAS, BELIEVE ME, YOU KNOW, OUR THEN PRESERVATION OFFICER, STEVE SADOWSKI, THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION AS THE FIRST ONE COMING ACROSS HIS DESK.

AND, UM, AND HE APPROVED IT FOR THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AGENDA.

IT WAS APPROVED BY THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE OWNER OF 600 HARLAND STREET AT THE TIME SIGNED ON TO THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, IN PREVIOUS APPLICATION PRESENTATION, THEY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, THE NON-CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAS, UM, DETERMINED, NON-CONTRIBUTING, AND IT JUST HAD SOME REPLACED WINDOWS.

BUT OUR CONSIDERATION WAS THAT, THAT, UM, THOSE WINDOWS, THIS, THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET HAD VERY FEW DISTINCTIVE FEATURES.

AND THE LOSS OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS, WHICH WERE CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS OF THE RANCH STYLE, UM, MADE IT SO THAT THE HOUSE DID NOT CONVEY AN ACCURATE OR AUTHENTIC SENSE OF HISTORY THAT WAS AS OPPOSED TO 600 HARTH ON STREET, WHICH STILL HAD NUMEROUS FEATURES, UM, THAT WE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO DETERMINE THAT THE SITE WAS, UM, CONTRIBUTING TO THE ALLEGED, TO THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND THAT IS, UH, HOW THAT PASSED.

I THINK, UM, I'M GLAD THAT THE APPLICANTS CAME BACK WITH, UM, A PROPOSAL TO SAVE THAT ONE PART OF THE BUILDING.

UM, I, I WOULD HESITATE THOUGH, IN ALLOWING THE REST OF IT TO BE DEMOLISHED.

UM, THERE ARE ALSO, THERE ARE OTHER SIGNIFICANT FEATURES THAT WOULD BE LOST.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION THAT, UM, THE VICTORIAN HOUSE THAT WAS ON THE SITE THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN IS STILL, UH, PROPOSED FOR DEMOLITION, UM, CHANGES THAT HAD HAPPENED TO THAT BUILDING.

IF THEY HAPPENED OVER 50 YEARS AGO, THEY MAY HAVE SIGNIFICANCE OF THEIR OWN.

AND SO THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION IN MAKING THOSE DETERMINATIONS.

AND I, UM, I, I GUESS I WOULD SAY I, I HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR 38 YEARS AND HAVE EVALUATED OVER 30,000 HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN SIMILAR WAY.

AND, UM, ALL OF MY NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

I, UM, I JUST SAY THAT JUST TO, I GUESS, SAY THAT I HAVE QUALIFICATIONS IN THIS FIELD AND, UM, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT, THAT YOU CONSIDER MY, UM, MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOSING A CONTRIBUTING STATUS OR, UH, A LARGE PORTION OF A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE A BAD PRECEDENT FOR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN OTHER LOCAL DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKED HARD, UM, SPENT THEIR MONEY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GOT THE SIGN ON AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE, ALL THE HOOPS YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH TO GET LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT STATUS IN AUSTIN.

AND, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN, IN YOUR DELIBERATION.

UH, APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF, UH, MS. MYERS AND HER CONCERN? UM, AND I, I THINK IT IS SIGNIFICANT, UH, TERRY, THAT THEY HAVE FOCUSED ON THE MOST INTACT OF ALL THE STRUCTURES AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTFUL BECAUSE OF ITS STREET FRONTAGE.

AND, UH, IN OUR BACKUP, THE, I THINK THE, IT'S VERY TELLING THAT WE HAVE A 1930S PHOTOGRAPH JUXTAPOSED WITH A VERY, ALMOST IDENTICAL, UH, IMAGE OF WHAT THE BUILDING IS IN

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ITS CURRENT STATE.

AND THE ABILITY, UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, TO, UH, REBUILD OR RECOM, RECONNECT TO THAT MORE THOROUGH THOROUGHLY TO THE PAST.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

UH, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS DO HAVE AT LEAST THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ORIGINAL, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY AS, AS YOU'VE NO DOUBT, HAVE HAVE DOCUMENTED, UH, WERE EXTENSIVELY ALTERED, MOST OF THEM PROBABLY IN THE EIGHTIES.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I, IF I MIGHT, UM, UH, JUST WANT YOU TO , UH, IF, IF THIS PASSES, I, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO IMPRESS UPON THE APPLICANTS THAT THEY DO NEED TO FOLLOW THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND, UM, THAT, THAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED WHEN EMILY LITTLE, UM, DESIGNED AND WORKED, UM, TO BUILD, UH, TOWNHOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DISTRICT, UM, THAT ARE NEW MODERN TOWNHOUSES, BUT REFLECT THE SIZE AND SCALE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENTS OF, OF THE DISTRICT ITSELF.

WELL, WELL PUT.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? UH, ANY, ANY QUESTION OF THE, THE SPEAKER? ALRIGHT, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ACTON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

AND COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.

UH, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO, UH, IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WE'RE BEING ASKED FOR PARTIAL DEMOLITIONS AND ALSO THE, UH, SELECTIVE DEMOLITION ON THE 1930S BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE RETAINED FOR FUTURE PRESERVATION PLANS.

CHAIR, I'M GONNA MOVE TO, UH, APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS AMENDED BY THE APPLICANT AND AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.

AND I'M GOING TO, UH, IN MY MOTION EXPRESS A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FOR THEIR DILIGENCE ON THIS PROJECT.

AND YOU'LL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A SECOND? WHO IS THE SECOND FROM THIS? UH, JUAH RICE, UH, COMMISSIONER RICE.

UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

I THINK I COVERED IT.

COMMISSIONER RICE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR SECOND? UM, NO, OTHER THAN, UM, I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THE DOCUMENTS ON THIS AND I'M, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

UM, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD DEAL THAT'S BEEN WORKED OUT.

UH, AND I'LL JUST MENTION COMMISSIONERS THAT I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT ONE TIME.

UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NEVER ATTENDED ONE, I'D CERTAINLY LET LET STAFF KNOW, BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE A QUORUM.

BUT, UH, ANY ONE OF YOU, UH, I GUESS MAYBE EVEN TWO, COULD MAKE IT AS A VISITOR WITHOUT HAVING TO POST.

BUT, UH, THE WORK THAT OUR COLLEAGUES DO, AND COMMISSIONER COOK'S NOT HERE, SO WE CAN EMBARRASS HIM AS WELL.

BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ AND COMMISSIONER GROGAN, UH, IT'S AMAZING, UH, THE DEPTH AND THE AMOUNT OF, UH, INSIGHT AND IT'S INFORMAL AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY ARCHITECTURAL, BUT THIS WAS PRESENTED AND IT WAS, THERE WAS NOTHING EASY OR SIMPLE ABOUT IT.

UH, WE HAD A VERY SOPHISTICATED, I WILL SAY, UH, UH, AN APPLICANT THAT, UH, WAS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD IN INDICATING WHAT THEIR ANALYSIS WAS, OF WHAT WAS VALUABLE AND HOW IT MAY HAVE DIFFERED FROM SOME OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, DOCUMENTATION IN THE, UH, EVALUATION OF THE ORIGINAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, BUT THEY LISTENED AND HONED IN ON THE 1930S COMPONENTS.

AND, UH, THAT'S, I THINK, AGAIN, THE, THE END RESULT OF SOME VERY, VERY GOOD WORK AND INDICATES WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR VOLUNTEER TIME IS PAYING OFF .

SO, I, I, I HAVE TO SAY, I, I CONCUR THEN, UH, WITH YOUR OBSERVATION, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE AND I CERTAINLY WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

SO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE PARTIAL DEMOLITIONS FOR, UH, I WILL CALL THE QUESTION.

THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND I SEE ALL HANDS ARE RAISED, SO IT IS UNANIMOUS.

UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE LOOK FORWARD NOW TO, WITH ALL THOSE KIND WORDS, SEEING THE

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NEW CONSTRUCTION AND JUST HOW SENSITIVE IT IS TO THIS WONDERFULLY RESTORED BUILDING THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH AS WELL.

UP TO THE NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT PERMIT APPLICATIONS.

A ALRIGHT, UH, THAT'S ITEM NUMBER SIX.

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS AND THAT BRINGS US

[14. PR-2025-029950; HR-2025-056344 – 1703 Alameda Dr. Travis Heights-Fairview Park National Register Historic District Council District 9]

THE ITEM NUMBER 14 17 0 3 ALAMEDA IS, UH, THE NEXT STOP FOR DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1939 HOUSE AND CONSTRUCT A NEW RESIDENCE, UM, ON THE SAME LOT, UH, BUILT IN SIMPLE, UH, MINIMAL TRADITIONAL FORM.

THE HOUSE AT 1703, ELEVATED DRIVE IS SET AT GRAY, SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE STREET AND IT'S RECTANGULAR AND PLAN WITH A SMALL FRONT PORCH CUT OUT AT ONE CORNER.

THE EXTERIOR IS CLAD IN HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING AND OPEN, UH, ORIGINAL SCREENS ARE PRESENT AT THE FOREFRONT WINDOWS, ALONG WITH THE SCREEN DOOR AT THE REAR OF THE PORCH FOR THE MAIN ENTRY.

THERE IS MINIMAL OVERHANG FROM THE HIP ROOF, WHICH IS CLAD AND COMPOSITION TILE.

THE HOUSE FEATURES NUMEROUS WINDOWS ON ALL SIDES, TYPICALLY PAIRED OR ARRANGED IN THREE UNITS SIDE BY SIDE.

APPEAR IN BEAM FOUNDATION SUPPORTS THE ONE STORY STRUCTURE.

THE HOUSE IN GOOD CONDITION IS SEEN AND HAS SEEN MINIMAL ALTERATIONS SINCE CONSTRUCTION AFTER CONSTRUCTION AROUND 1939, THE HOUSE WAS FIRST OWNED BY HIRAM AND DORIS BROWN, WHO WORKED AT LOCAL BUSINESSES SUCH AS TEXAS CLEANERS AND SHOE REPAIR.

THE BROWN'S OWNED THE PROPERTY THROUGH WORLD WAR II AND SHORTLY AFTER WAS SOLD TO CHARLES AND BERT, UH, BERTHA KINNEY.

CHARLES KINNEY WORKED AS A SALESMAN, AND BERTHA WORKED FOR MANY YEARS AS A CLERK AT THE INTERNAL RES REVENUE SERVICE FOR A TIME THEIR ADULT SON LIVED WITH THEM WHILE ATTENDING THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BASED ON THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION AND ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.

THE FOLLOWING STANDARDS APPLIED TO THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UM, AND THE PROJECT MEETS SOME OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS.

UM, UH, PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT AND PROPERTIES MUST MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINE THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA.

UM, THE PROJECT CAME BEFORE THE JUNE 11TH, 2025 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

HOWEVER, THE, UH, APPLICANT WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE, BUT IT WAS DISCUSSED BY COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THEIR FEEDBACK WAS, UH, THE FOLLOWING.

ANY PROPOSED DESIGN SHOULD BE INFLUENCED BY CONTRIBUTING HOUSES ON THE STREET, NOT NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WHERE POSSIBLE DESIGN SHOULD BE MADE MORE COHESIVE ACROSS THE FRONT FACADE.

USE OF ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS MAY BE HELPFUL TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SITE CONTEXT, PARTICULARLY, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO ELEVATION CHANGES ON THE LOT.

UM, I'D ALSO NOTE THAT, UH, REVISED PLANS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICES, UH, EARLIER, UH, TODAY, THIS AFTERNOON, AND HAVE NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF AS OF YET.

UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME IS TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT AND COMMENT ON PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

IMMENSE AND INSPIRATION FROM THE CURRENT HOUSE REFLECTING THE DESIGN PRINCIPLES OF THE ARTS AND CRAFTS PERIOD, UM, PREVALENT IN THE DISTRICT, UH, MIXED MATERIALS.

IS THERE ANY QUESTION OF STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS BRIAN RAND.

I'M THE APPLICANT.

UM, I WANTED TO THANK COMMISSIONERS AND ALSO TO THE A RC BOARD.

UM, WE REVIEWED THE, UH, THE MINUTES OR THE CONVERSATION AND, UH, TOOK THOSE INTO, UH, PRETTY BIG, UH, OUR LARGE, UM, SORRY, NOT A GREAT PUBLIC SPEAKER.

I BUILD, GO AHEAD.

BUILD HOUSES, , UM, ANYWAY, UH, TO THE, OH, I GOT THE SLIDES HERE.

SO, THE GOAL OF OUR PROJECT IS FOR THE OWNERS ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THE DEMOLITION, DEMOLITION TO TRANSFORM THE PROPERTY TO BETTER SUIT THEIR NEEDS AND THOSE OF THEIR AGING FAMILY MEMBERS.

THEY'RE COMMITTED TO MEETING THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN ALAMEDA'S CHARACTERISTICS, ALAMEDA STREETS CHARACTERISTICS, AND, UM, INFLUENCE AS EXISTS AS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE LACKS STRONG ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS.

UM, WE PROPOSE A SOLUTION COMPLIMENT THE DISTRICT'S AESTHETIC AND HERITAGE WHILE MEETING THE HOMEOWNER'S FUNCTIONAL NEEDS.

THESE ARE ALL ITEMS, THE THREE ITEMS THAT CAME UP, UM, FROM THE A RC, ACTUALLY THERE'S TWO THAT WERE IN THE DOCUMENTS, BUT, UM, WE HEARD A THIRD ONE WHEN WE WERE LISTENING TO THE MEETING.

UM, BASICALLY THE FIRST ONE WAS CONSISTENCY AND APPROPRIATENESS IN THE HISTORIC, UM, SETTING.

AND WHAT WE DID TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN WAS UPDATED WITH CRAFTSMAN STYLE,

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THESE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING WE'RE USING MIXED MATERIALS, COMBINATION OF SIDING AND NATURAL WOOD, UM, DECORATIVE TRIM, UM, BOARD AND BATTEN HORIZONTAL SIDING, AND ALSO A LOWER SIDING DETAIL TO REFLECT THE PORCH RAILING OF THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE.

UM, I'M GONNA ADD SOME DECORATIVE BRACKETS.

UM, WE KEPT THE LOW PITCH AND IT'S ACTUALLY A HIP, NOT, UM, G OLD ROOF WITH LARGE OVERHANGING EAVES.

AND WE'RE INCORPORATING THE ONE INSET PORCH, UM, INTO THE CURRENT DESIGN.

AND OF COURSE THE LARGE GROUP GROUPING OF WINDOWS.

SO I KNOW THIS IS QUITE SMALL FOR YOU GUYS.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE THE NEW BACKUP.

UM, BUT THIS WAS THE UPDATED ELEVATIONS.

UM, APOLOGIZE FOR THE LATE SUBMITTAL, BUT IT WAS HARD TO GET EVERYTHING IN WITHIN THE TIME THAT WE HAD AN ARCHITECTURE, UH, ARCHITECT'S DEADLINE.

SO, UM, THE RIGHT PICTURE LOOKING AT IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.

UM, AND AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, I ACTUALLY HAVE A RENDERING OF THE HOUSE WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND THE NEW ONE, AND I BELIEVE YOU'LL LIKE IT QUITE A BIT.

UM, THIS IS THE REAR ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE OTHER, THE SOUTH SIDE ON THE, UH, RIGHT, THIS IS THE, A ROUGH RENDERING.

AGAIN.

WE SENT THIS OUT AND GOT IT BACK THIS MORNING AND ACTUALLY, UM, GOT IT TO THE COMMITTEE AS SOON AS WE COULD.

UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS, AGAIN, WE'RE USING THE VERTICAL SITING, UM, AROUND THE BACK, THE EVERYTHING ABOVE THE HAND HANDRAIL OF THE PORCH AND UP IS ALL BOARD AND BATTEN, WHICH IS VERY PREVALENT ON THE STREET.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO USING, UM, SHINGLE SIDING UNDERNEATH AGAIN TO REPLICATE THE, UH, THE HANDRAIL AROUND AND, AND KIND OF BREAK UP THE OVERALL EFFECT OF THE HOUSE.

UM, DOING SOME DECORATIVE BRACKETS.

WE'VE GOT LOW PITCHED HIP ROOF, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL HOUSES DESIGN AND THE LARGE GROUPING OF WINDOWS.

AND THE, UH, THE ROOF MATERIAL IS A METAL, UM, STANDING SCENE.

THAT'S ANOTHER VIEW.

UM, ANOTHER QUESTION POSED BY THE A RC WAS, UM, THE GARAGE PLACEMENT AND HOW IT WAS, UM, SPLIT LEVEL.

AND THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN IS OF THE VISIBILITY OF THE MAIN LIVING AREA.

AND TO GET THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE NEEDED ONE FLOOR ACROSS THE MAIN, WHICH INCLUDES THE PRIMARY, THE LIVING ROOM, ALL LIVING IN, UH, THE KITCHEN, LAUNDRY, ALL OF THAT WAS A VERY BIG FOCUS.

OH, THAT'S YOUR FIVE MINUTES.

SO WE, THAT WAS FIVE MINUTES.

IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY LAST THING YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT, UM, TO SAY, WE REALLY DID TAKE THE HEART WHAT THE A RC SUGGESTED AND, UM, WE WENT WITH THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE, UM, TO GET IT TO YOUR LEVEL OR TO GET TO YOUR LEVEL TO MAKE IT FIXED.

AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO, UH, AS A SECOND SPEAKER.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO TAKE THREE MINUTES IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD COMMENTS.

OH, I'M SYDNEY SHOTS.

I'M THE OWNER OF 1703.

UH OH.

HELLO.

UM, BASICALLY MY HUSBAND AND I WANNA BUILD A HOUSE FOR OUR PARENTS.

UH, IT WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE MODERN, BUT AFTER LISTENING TO THE LAST COMMITTEE, AFTER LISTENING TO, UH, OPINIONS OF THE OPPOSITION, WANTING IT TO LOOK MORE RELATED AND KIND OF HAVE A HISTORIC ELEMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE REALLY DID TAKE THAT TO HEART.

UH, WE EVEN WENT WITH A BLUE.

THE ORIGINAL HOUSE IS BLUE, SO WE DECIDED TO KEEP THAT AS WELL.

UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MOST PEOPLE ON THE STREET ABOUT THIS.

ALMOST EVERYONE ON THE STREET IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

IN FACT, I SHOWED THIS RENDERING TO OUR NEIGHBORS THIS MORNING WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE STREET.

THEY WERE THE FIRST ONES WHO BOUGHT THEIR HAT ON THE STREET.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS AND THEY LOVED IT.

UM, WHICH WAS VERY EXCITING TO GET THEIR OPINION.

IT MEANS A LOT.

BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW, MOST PEOPLE ON OUR STREET ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

THE HOUSE THAT EXISTS THERE IS NOT IN

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GOOD CONDITION.

I DUNNO WHY THAT KEEPS BEING SAID.

IT IS FALLING APART.

THE CEILING IS FALLING APART WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE HOUSE.

THERE ARE HOLES IN THE BACK WALLS WHERE YOU CAN SEE FROM A BEDROOM INTO THE BACKYARD.

UM, I HAVE NEVER SEEN AN EXTERMINATOR THERE, SO WHO KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON UNDERNEATH.

BUT, UH, WE'RE JUST VERY EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT AND WE DID A LOT OF WORK TO CHANGE THE LOOK OF IT TO, UH, BASICALLY LOOK LIKE IT HAS A PROPER FEEL IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, HEARING DONE, GO AHEAD.

YES, I, I CERTAINLY WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE EFFORT, UH, THE DILIGENCE AND, AND, UH, ATTEMPTING TO LISTEN TO US DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN, , SO THAT'S A PLUS.

UM, I, I THOUGHT YOU WERE, YOU WERE WAY AHEAD UNTIL YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE DETERIORATION OF THE HOME.

JUST BEAR IN MIND THAT ALL OF US RESTORE STRUCTURES FOR A LIVING AND SO WE'VE ALL SEEN FAR WORSE.

SO, , STOP, BLOW YOUR HEAD.

BUT, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS MADE.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND THE ABILITY AS THIS IS IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, AT THE SAME TIME PROPOSING THE NEW, UH, CONSTRUCTION AND SOLICITING OUR COMMENTS, WHICH IS OUR, UH, OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

SO SOMETIMES WE GET THEM SEPARATE, BUT THIS IS BEING PRESENTED TO US TOGETHER.

SO, UM, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT BOTH THE DEMOLITION REQUEST AND THE PRESENTED, UH, NEW, NEW, UH, PROPOSED BUILDING.

UH, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS CLIFTON LADD AND I URGE YOU TO REJECT THIS APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION.

WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, WHICH WE BOTH CO-CHAIR THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

UM, I'VE PREPARED THESE REMARKS BASED ON THE PLANS THAT WERE IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL.

UM, OF COURSE WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING, UM, THAT THE CURRENT IN THE CURRENT PLANS.

UM, ALAMEDA DRIVE IS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT STREETS IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE ONLY HOME IN THIS BLOCK THAT IS NON-CONTRIBUTING IS THE APPLICANT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING HOME.

ALAMEDA IS A HIGHLY VISIBLE STREET AS IT IS OFF WOODLAND, A MAIN EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE THROUGH TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND ALSO THE STREET.

MOST PARENTS DRIVE UP TO DROP OFF THEIR KIDS AT TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RESIDENTS ON THIS BLOCK HAVE EVEN HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BECOMING A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO THIS POTENTIAL DEMOLITION IS FURTHER TROUBLING.

I ASK THE COMMISSION TO DELAY ITS DECISION SO THE APPLICANT CAN FURTHER EXPLORE RENOVATION AND ADDITION POSSIBILITIES AND HELP MAINTAIN THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE STREET.

AS YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT AND DEMOLITIONS IN SUCH DISTRICTS REQUIRE HIGHER SCRUTINY AND REVIEW IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER.

THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE CONSIDERED DEMOLITION ALTERNATIVES.

THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION DESIGN DOES NOT MEET THE NRHD DESIGN STANDARDS.

THE CURRENT DRAWINGS STILL DO NOT MEET THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S DESIGN STANDARDS AFTER ANOTHER MONTH'S OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE, PARTICULARLY THE FRONT FACING GARAGE, THE LARGER DESIGN THAN NEIGHBORING HOMES, EXCEPT THE APPLICANT'S CURRENT HOME OR THE LACK OF A SETBACK OF THE SECOND STORY AS OTHER HOMES ON THE STREET, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY'VE MADE ANY OF THE REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR DESIGN PLANS.

THE APPLICANTS SAY THEY WILL BE SUBMITTING NEW DRAWINGS WITH NEW FEATURES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTS TO SEE THEM BEFORE ANYTHING IS APPROVED.

THE APPLICANTS DID NOT REACH OUT TO OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE PRIOR TO SUBMITTING ITS DEMOLITION PERMIT.

SO THE COMMITTEE HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TRY TO WORK WITH THEM TO EXPLORE ALTERNATIVES TO DEMOLITION.

AND THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO DEMOLITION.

TRAVIS HEIGHTS HAS COUNTLESS GREAT EXAMPLES OF SMALL BUNDLES BEING ADDED TO UP OR IN THE BACK, AND MANY HOMEOWNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO SHARE THEIR HOMES WITH FOLKS INTERESTED IN THOSE POSSIBILITIES.

IN FACT, THERE ARE SEVERAL EXAMPLES ON THIS BLOCK OF ALAMEDA.

NO MATTER THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND HAD

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SOMEONE LIVING IN IT UNTIL LATE LAST YEAR, WE KNOW THAT ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS ARE POSSIBLE.

IN CLOSING, WE HAVE SEEN OTHER INSTANCES OF SIMILAR HOMES BEING REHABILITATED, MUCH MORE AFFORDABLY THAN DEMOLISHING AN EXISTING HOME AND BUILDING AN ENTIRELY NEW ONE.

I WOULD HOPE THAT THE OWNERS WOULD FURTHER CONSIDER THIS OPTION.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR COMMENTS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER, UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

I'M BARBARA SILLY, I'M A CO-CHAIR WITH CLIFF.

UM, I WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS STRUCTURE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY MODEST STRUCTURE.

IT'S 963 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S ONE STORY, BUT IT REPRESENTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD A TIME WHERE THAT WAS OUR STANDARD.

I LIVE IN A HOUSE THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THIS.

MY HOUSE IS ABOUT 1300 SQUARE FEET.

SO I SPENT A LOT OF MY LIFE STUDYING ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIANS NEED TO BE A LOT MORE SENSITIVE TO IS PRESERVING STRUCTURES THAT ARE MORE MODEST IN SCALE.

WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO LOOK AT THE FANCY VICTORIANS WITH THEIR COLUMNS AND THEIR JUST, YOU KNOW, PRESENCE.

BUT IT IS THESE MODEST STRUCTURES THAT WE TEND TO WANT TO DEMOLISH.

UH, AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS A TYPICAL WORK BUNGALOW FOR THIS PERIOD.

IT REPRESENTS A, A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN.

I DO KNOW THAT YOU CAN SUCCESSFULLY REMODEL THESE.

I'VE SPENT SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON MINE DOING JUST THAT.

IT IS A VERY GOOD STRUCTURE FOR OLDER PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S ALL ON ONE LEVEL.

AND THAT'S THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH THIS DESIGN.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE A MODEST ONE STORY BUNGALOW WITH SOMETHING WHOSE SCALE IS APPRECIABLY DIFFERENT.

SO YOU ARE CONTEXTUALLY CHANGING SOMETHING IN A NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT.

SO I WOULD ASK THIS COMMISSION TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE BUILDING IN A BIAS FOR LARGER STRUCTURES WHEN YOU CONTINUALLY DEMOLISH THIS MODEST BUNGALOW, WHICH CAN BE ADAPTED, I THINK, SUCCESSFULLY FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO AGE IN.

I MEAN, I'M DOING IT.

MY STRUCTURES 1300 SQUARE FEET.

I LIVE ON TRAVIS HEIGHTS, WHICH IS JUST OVER THE WAY.

SO I WOULD ASK THIS COMMISSION TO REALLY THINK ABOUT DEMOLISHING A STRUCTURE AS MODEST AS THIS IS, DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CONTEXT OF THIS DISTRICT AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATION ALSO ABOUT MORE MODEST STRUCTURES, UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY AND, AND REACHED READ OUR, UH, EQUITY BASED PRESERVATION PLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE SPEAKERS.

UM, JUST ARE YOU FAMILIAR OFF THE, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? AND I, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK AND I SHARE A LOT OF YOUR, UM, CONCERNS AROUND, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF DEMOLISHING THESE SMALLER STRUCTURES.

I MYSELF GREW UP IN A, UM, IN A SINGLE STORY BUNGALOW INTRA SITES IN THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THOSE, TO THOSE CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO.

UM, BUT I HAD JUST WANTED TO ASK SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS OF YOUR POINT ABOUT A POTENTIAL, UM, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS ON THE AMOUNT OF POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTING, UH, PROPERTIES ON THAT BLOCK OF ALAMEDA? UM, YES.

ALL BUT ONE YEP, GO AHEAD.

JUST YOUR, YOUR MICROPHONE ON? YEP.

UM, YES, IT'S ALL BUT ONE, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE IS OWNED BY THE APPLICANT'S.

IT'S, UH, 17 0, 17 0 5 IS THE HOUSE, I THINK THE HOUSE 1705 ADJACENT TO IT IS A NEW, IS A NEW PROPERTY? YES.

MR. RICE, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THERE HAS BEEN, YES.

SEVERAL, SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DOING A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THAT AREA.

AND, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY ENCOURAGING THAT.

AND, UH, MS. SILLY,

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UH, I, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY, I'M, THIS MY, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.

THIS IS MY FIRST RODEO HERE, GUYS, .

SO YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT MORE OF ME, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A RESOURCE FOR YOU AND, UH, WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEFINITELY SPEAKING A LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, SO THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? UH, I'M SORRY.

DID WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? YES.

ONLINE WE HAVE MR. MURRAY WISE.

YEAH, MURRAY WISE.

WHY, UH, MURRAY WISE, I'M ACTUALLY THE NEIGHBOR AT 1701 ALAMEDA DRIVE.

AND, UM, A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, ACTUALLY, I THINK CLIFF AND BARBARA HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB, UH, MENTIONING.

UH, BUT I WILL ADD TO A BIT OF THAT.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN A BIT, UM, AMBUSHED HERE WITH THE SUDDENLY UPDATED NEW RENDERS OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH HAS TAKEN THE ARCHITECTS A MONTH.

IF SOMEONE ACTUALLY WORKS IN THIS FIELD, THAT SHOULD NOT TAKE THAT LONG.

SO I IDEALLY, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN UPLOADED BEFORE THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION.

JUST ALLOW EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND VIEW.

I KNOW SYDNEY MENTIONED THAT SHE'D WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND HAD SHARED THIS DESIGN.

UH, SHE MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN WHERE I LIVE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT.

AND TO THE POINT EARLY ON, 90% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY WANT TO MAKE THIS HISTORIC, UM, DISTRICT ON THIS STREET IN PARTICULAR.

BUT I THINK ALL THIS ASIDE AND DISTRACTIONS WITH ALL OF THE ARCHITECTURAL KIND OF, UM, BE RAILINGS, I THINK IT STILL COMES BACK TO THE ACTUAL FACTORS THAT ISN'T THE GOAL TO BUILD A KIND OF HOME THAT'S, THAT'S STILL LIVABLE AND FITS AND, AND, AND, AND AN ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND AS MENTIONED BY PAST SPEAKERS, THERE'S ALREADY A HOUSE THERE AT 1703 THAT IS, THAT IS THE COMMISSION ITSELF IS DEEMED IN A GOOD EXAMPLE OF ARCHITECTURE AND PERIOD.

AND THAT THEY HAVE ALSO DEEMED IN GOOD CONDITION, THERE'S SOMEBODY LIVED THERE.

AND, AND KELLY, I KNEW FOR 11 YEARS ALONE LIVED HERE.

AND I DO THINK IT'S A BIT DISRESPECTFUL TO SAY THAT THE HOUSE ISN'T LIVABLE.

THE WHOSE STANDARDS, I MEAN, IN A WAY I THINK IT'S SLIGHTLY INSULTING TO SOME OTHER HOUSES, NOT ON OUR, NOT JUST THE HOUSE STREET, BUT, UM, NOT AS OUR BLOCK, BUT OTHER STREETS IN ALAMEDA.

LET, LET ME, LET ME STEP IN HERE.

UH, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN, UH, DECORUM AND MENTIONING THE, UH, BASICALLY YOUR OPPONENT IN, UH, A WAY ABOUT THEIR MOTIVATION, I THINK IS, I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO REFRAIN FROM THAT.

UH, WHETHER IT'S RESPECTFUL OR DISRESPECTFUL.

I WOULD, I WOULD APPRECIATE THIS.

LET'S, LET'S TRY TO STICK WITH THE FACTS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR OWN OPINION.

YEAH, THAT WAS JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE CLARITY ON THAT, WHICH WAS RISEN BY THE, UH, OTHER PERSON, THE APPLICANT.

UM, YEAH, I MEAN, FOR THAT TIME, AS I SAID, THERE'S MULTIPLE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY ON THIS BLOCK, THERE'S NEARLY FOUR IN TOTAL THAT HAVE KEPT THE PASSADE OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND EXTENDED THEM TO MAKE THEM LIVABLE AND UPGRADABLE AND, UM, MAINTAINS TO STILL KEEP THE AESTHETIC OF THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE THAT.

I THINK ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF WHERE WE LIVE, NOT JUST IN ALAMEDA, BUT IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS, IS THE FACT THAT EVERY HOUSE IS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT, ARCHITECTURALLY, QUIRKED, UM, SINGLE STORIES.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS HERE, WE'RE GETTING A REALLY JUST A, A DUPLICATE OF WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING AT 1705.

AND I, I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE THE KIND OF EROSION OF WHAT MAKES THE PERSONALITY OF THIS, UM, TRAVIS HEIGHTS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO LIVE AND AN EXCITING PLACE TO LIVE AND WHY PEOPLE WANNA LIVE HERE.

ALAMEDA DRIVE AND 1809 ALAMEDA DRIVE.

AND I APOLOGIZE IF I WENT OFF RAILS.

, THANK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? OKAY, UH, IN OPPOSITION AND HEARING NONE, UH, BY TRADITION, UH, IT, WE ALLOW THE APPLICANT A CHANCE FOR A REBUTTAL.

AND SO IF YOU WOULD WISH TO COME BACK AND COMMENT ON THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU'VE JUST HEARD, CAN, CAN I SEE THE, UH, MY SLIDES PLEASE? UM, UH, THE, OKAY, THERE WE GO.

UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS ABOUT THE, UM, FRONT FACING GARAGE.

HERE ARE THREE CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES ON THE SAME STREET, DEALING WITH THE SAME GRADE ISSUES THAT HAVE FRONT FACING GR UH, GARAGES.

1507 ALAMEDA DRIVE 15, SORRY, I CAN'T READ THAT FAR.

I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON.

1517

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UM, AND THOSE, I LOOKED THEM UP IN THE, UH, ON THE, UM, THE WEBSITE AND VERIFIED THAT THEY WERE CONTRIBUTING.

SO WE, WE ARE BEING INFLUENCED BY WHAT IS A CONTRIBUTING HOUSE ON ALAMEDA STREET WITH THE FRONT FACING GARAGE.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, I THINK SYDNEY MAY IS, CAN SHE REBUT AS WELL? JUST, UH, ONE SPEAKER, BUT, UH, WHAT IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE WE'D LIKE TO MENTION? OH, UH, WELL ONE, I WAS GONNA SAY, I JUST SHOWED THIS RENDERING TO ONE NEIGHBOR.

I DID NOT WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOW THEM, SO I APOLOGIZE IF THAT WAS NOT CLEAR.

UM, WHAT, WHAT ELSE? JUST THAT YOU'VE SPOKEN, I, I HAVE SPOKEN TO ALMOST EVERYONE ON OUR STREET, WHICH I DID SAY, UM, I KNOW THAT THIS NEIGHBOR IS IN OPPOSITION, SO I DIDN'T BOTHER THEM SHOWING THEM PLANS.

PERHAPS THAT WAS MY FAULT, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

UH, THIS IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER REPRESENTATION OF OUR CURRENT HOUSE.

WE DID TRY TO KEEP IT MUCH MORE IN LINE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THIS HOUSE IS ALSO ONLY 10% BIGGER THAN THE STRUCTURE THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY.

WE ARE NOT GOING BIG, LIKE FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY FROM, FROM THE, WHICH ONE, SORRY.

IT'S 10% LARGER THAN THE, UM, 1701, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, EXCUSE ME, ON THE, THE STREET.

SO IT IS NOT A LARGE, UM, PROPERTY ON, IT'S NO LARGER THAN BASICALLY THE, UH, SECOND LARGEST HOUSE ON THE NEIGHBOR IN THE, ON THE STREET.

AND I THINK THE LAST POINT WOULD BE SYDNEY AND GER, THE HOMEOWNERS OF 1705 HAS SPOKEN TO MANY, MANY, MANY OF THE NEIGHBORING OF THEIR NEIGHBORS.

AND THAT'S THE VERY FIRST THAT THEY'VE EVER HEARD FROM ANYBODY THAT SAID THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE TALKS OF ANY KIND OF DISTRICT OF THIS ON THIS STREET.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S VERY NEW INFORMATION FOR US.

UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I, WHAT I HAVE.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY, ANY LAST, UH, QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO EVERYONE IS VERY CLEAR.

UH, THIS IS A NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT REVIEW AND WE THEREFORE ARE REVIEWING A DEMOLITION REQUEST.

UH, OUR OPTIONS IN THIS CASE, IF WE ARE NOT IN APPROVAL OF THE DEMOLITION, UH, THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE WHATLEY TOOL WE HAVE WOULD BE TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.

WE HEARD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT WAS NOT, UH, THIS, THIS EXISTING STRUCTURE DID NOT MEET THOSE CRITERIA THAT WOULD OTHERWISE, UH, BEGIN THAT PROCESS.

IN ADDITION, BECAUSE IT IS IN A NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMENT ON THE PLANS AND POTENTIALLY, UH, WE CAN POSTPONE IF WE BELIEVE THERE IS AN, AN ADVANTAGE FOR DOING SO.

BUT THERE IS A LIMIT TO THE NUMBERS OF POSTPONEMENTS.

AND SO FOR CLARIFICATION STAFF, WE POSTPONE THIS ONCE ALREADY, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE, UH, DEMOLITION APPLICATION IS SET THE TIME OUT, UM, AFTER THE SEPTEMBER, UH, HLC MEETING.

SO POTENTIALLY A POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND POSSIBLY A SECOND DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, AND COMMISSIONERS, YOUR NEW COMMISSIONERS MAY NOT HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS.

WE'VE HAD SOME WHERE, YOU KNOW, JUST HOPE AGAINST HOPE.

WE JUST TRIED TO RUN OUT THE CLOCK AS MUCH AS WE COULD.

UH, IN OTHER CASES IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S NECESSARY IF WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO A RESOLUTION AND WE CAN ACT ON THE PERMIT.

BUT, UH, THE MOST WE COULD DO IF WE'RE NOT HISTORIC ZONING IS TO HOLD UP THE PERMIT FOR THIS DELAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF IDEALLY GETTING A BETTER OUTCOME.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE NEW MEMBERS THAT, AND FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THAT'S OUR PURVIEW.

UH, THERE REALLY, THIS, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER REASON, BY THE WAY, FOR A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS DIFFERENT.

THAT IS A YES OR NO.

AND, UH, EVEN NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, WE HAVE ABILITY TO REVIEW THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN A WAY THAT'S DIFFERENT.

BUT A NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT, OF COURSE, UH, WE'RE JUST MAKING OUR COMMENTS.

SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONER LAROSE.

AND SECOND, COMMISSIONER RICE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, CLOSINGS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

ALRIGHT, UNLESS YOU NEED ME TO GO THROUGH THAT WITH OPTIONS, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ, UH, HERE,

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UH, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT'S REVISED DOCUMENTATION.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THE COMMISSION HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY REVIEW ALL OF IT.

UH, ALSO, WE, I GUESS WE INTENDED TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT THIS AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE, SINCE THE APPLICANT WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND PREVIOUSLY TO POSTPONE THIS APPLICATION AND RE-INVITE THE APPLICANT TO NEXT WEEK'S ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, UM, THANKFUL FOR SOME OF THESE MODIFICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

UM, SURE.

I'M SURE MULTIPLE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD PROBABLY STILL COMMENT ON THE PROMINENCE OF THE GARAGE.

MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT SORTED OUT AND, UH, THEN BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AFTER THAT.

SO THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

UH, I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER GROGAN AS A MEMBER OF THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, ELABORATE MORE ON YOUR EMOTION? UH, I THINK THAT CAPTURES MOST OF, UH, I GUESS MY POINTS AND AND CONCERNS, BUT, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I'M THANKFUL TO THE APPLICANT FOR MAKING THE REVISIONS, BUT I, I, I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MAYBE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMISSIONER GROGAN.

UM, I WON'T REPEAT ALL THAT.

IT WAS WELL SAID, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE INVITATION TO THE ARCHITECT TO THE A RC COMMITTEE.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THOSE DEEP CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME TWEAKS TO THE GARAGE AND SOME OTHER ELEMENTS.

COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ANY COMMENT? UH, KAYLIN CAN YOU PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT DATE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING? IT IS NEXT WEDNESDAY, JULY 9TH.

THANK YOU, SAM.

ANY OTHER, I I'M GONNA ADD A COMMENT.

I DID SEE, UH, THIS PRESENT PRESENTATION AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND I AM VERY, UH, HEARTENED BY THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN.

UH, WHEN Y'ALL WEREN'T THERE, THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A QUESTION IN THE ROOM WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE BEING STOOD UP OR WHAT, BUT, UH, CLEARLY YOU LISTEN.

AND I THINK THE SCALE IN PARTICULAR IS SOMETHING THAT THIS NEW DESIGN IS VERY RESPONSIVE, UH, TO, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER BUILDINGS IN THIS VERY, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, WHICH I, I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS ALSO WORKING SO HARD TO DEFEND BECAUSE, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF INSENSITIVE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS NOT TAKEN THE TIME TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW TO MAINTAIN THAT SINGLE STORY SCALE AND TRY TO ADD IN A WAY THAT'S, UH, NOT GONNA STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.

I THINK YOU'RE VERY CLOSE.

UH, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN DESIGN ANYTHING FROM THE D NECESSARILY, BUT A LOT OF BOUNCING GOOD IDEAS, UH, IN A MORE INFORMAL, UH, COMMITTEE STRUCTURE.

I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL, UH, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

UH, AND AGAIN, ASSUMING THAT THAT MOTION WILL PASS, UH, BUT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE UNTIL OUR AUGUST MEETING AND ALSO A REFERRAL OF THIS ITEM TO THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVORS, COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

OKAY, I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER RICE.

UH, I'D LIKE TO BE SHOWN ABSTAINING.

BEG YOUR PARDON? I SAID I'D LIKE TO BE SHOWN ABSTAINING.

AND THEN, UH, ALL THOSE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROCHE, WAS YOUR HAND RAISED AS WELL? YES.

WAS IT WAS.

ANY OF THOSE IN, IN, IN OPPOSITION? UH, WE HAVE NONE.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER RICE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE NOTED AS ABSTAINING.

BUT THAT MOTION PASSES, UH, THIS WILL BE, UH, AN ITEM ON THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND WE'LL HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL IN AUGUST.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS.

THAT BRINGS US UP TO, UH, THE NEXT ITEM IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

AND THAT IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER 18 AT 1606 WEATHERSFIELD ROAD.

AND THIS IS IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

UH, AND THIS IS THE DEMOLITION OF A CONTRIBUTING GARAGE? NO.

WAS THAT, WAS THAT A CONSENT? UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER.

THAT WAS PASSED ON CONSENT.

IT PASSED.

I, I JUST MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE GARAGE.

THAT'S WHY I CIRCLED IT.

AND RELOCATION PERMIT APPLICATIONS.

UM, THEN WE'RE DOWN TO THE DEMOLITION

[19. PR-2025-041615 – 607 E. 38th St. Council District 9]

AND LET'S SEE, ITEM 19, ITEM 19, 6 0, 70 EAST 38TH STREET, DEMOLITION OF A 1935 BUILDING.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

THIS IS, UH, AS YOU SAID, A DEMOLITION OF A CIRCA 1935 HOUSE.

UM, THE HOUSE AT 6 0 7 EAST 38TH STREET IS A SIDE-BY-SIDE DUPLEX SET ON AN ELEVATED FOUNDATION ON A SLIPPING GRADE ADJACENT TO HANCOCK GOLF COURSE.

UNLIKE MANY HOMES IN THE NEARBY HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WERE CONVERTED TO DUPLEXES DURING THE

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GREAT DEPRESSION IN THE 1930S, THIS PROPERTY APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AS TWO UNITS.

THIS CAN BE SEEN IN THE TWO ENTRANCES AT THE FRONT CORNERS, WHICH ARE COVERED BY SMALL DECORATED GABLES OVERHANGING, THEIR RESPECTIVE STOOPS.

THE WALLS ARE CLAD IN A NARROW TEARDROP SIDING, UH, AND WINDOWS ALL APPEAR TO BE ORIGINAL, ONE OVER ONE HUNG UNITS.

A SHORT METAL RAIL IS PRESENT AT THE PERIMETER OF EACH STOOP, WHICH ARE A ACCESSED BY STAIRS ORIENTED PARALLEL TO THE FRONT ELEVATION.

A MODERATELY PITCHED SIDE GABLE ROOF COVERS THE HOUSE WITH VISIBLE RAFTER TAILS AT THE FRONT.

THROUGHOUT ITS EARLY HISTORY, THE PROPERTY WAS INHABITED BY A SERIES OF RENTERS, NONE OF WHOM APPEAR TO HAVE LIVED AT THE ADDRESS FOR LONGER THAN A FEW YEARS.

RECORDS INDICATE THAT THE NORTH HALF OF THE PROPERTY WAS LARGELY VACANT FOR MOST OF THE 1940S, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY INDICATE THAT BOTH SIDES WERE O OCCUPIED BY THE SAME TENANT.

THE HOUSE CONSISTENTLY HAD STUDENTS LIVING THERE THROUGHOUT THE DECADES, GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO UNIVERSITIES NEAR TO THE SOUTH.

UH, DEPARTMENT.

COMMENTS INCLUDE, UH, CASE HISTORY ON THIS.

UH, PREVIOUS DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THIS ADDRESS WAS HEARD BY THE HISTORIC LAND COM LANDMARK COMMISSION AT THE JANUARY 24TH, 2022 MEETING.

AT THAT MEETING, THE COMMISSION VOTED TO RELEASE THE PERMIT PENDING A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

HOWEVER, THAT DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE WAS NEVER SUBMITTED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, AND THE PERMIT WAS NEVER RELEASED DUE TO THE APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS NOT BEING MET.

UH, THE 2019 NORTH LOOP HANCOCK BAGGE CREEK HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY LISTS THE PROPERTY AS A MEDIUM PRIORITY.

PROPERTIES MUST MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OR RELOCATION THAN MATERIAL SALVAGE AND REUSE, BUT RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON THE COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

IS THERE ANY QUESTION? STAFF, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

UM, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE? THE APPLICANT? NOT HERE.

WE HAD SOMEBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS THE APPLICANT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT ONLINE.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED? WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO TO BE OPPOSED.

FIRST, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? SO, AND THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I'LL REMIND YOU, THIS IS FROM LAST MEETING.

WE POSTPONED THIS, UH, THE APPLICANT WAS NOT HERE AND THE APPLICANT'S STILL NOT HERE.

BUT, UH, NOW I WILL OPEN UP, UH, CALL, CALL.

IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK OPPOSED, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

GO AHEAD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHARLES DARD.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

UH, I WAS, AND, AND YOUR EXPERTISE.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY HOW MUCH YOU KNOW THE PROPERTY AND HOW MUCH AND THE RESEARCH YOU'VE DONE.

UM, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE ASSOCIATION HAS VOTED TO OPPOSE THIS DEVOLUTION AND TO ASK YOU IF YOU COULD, UH, POSTPONE IT WHILE WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO TALK TO THE OWNERS.

SO I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AT, UH, OR I COULD GIVE DETAILS ABOUT THAT AT QUESTION TIME.

THE PROPERTY HAS A, A, A LOT OF SPACE AT THE BACK, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONVINCE THEM TO DO A GOOD DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT, UH, DEMOLITION OF THE, THE DUPLEX IN THE FRONT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH THEM AND HAVE, HAVE, UH, WE WERE ALMOST SUCCESSFUL, BUT HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL SO FAR.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, IF, IF A POSTPONEMENT IS NOT POSSIBLE, WE'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, YOU TO ENSURE THAT THEY PROVIDE THE AUSTIN CITY DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE REQUIRED FOR THIS.

SO WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UH, ABOUT THE PROPERTY, ABOUT THE, SO WE MAINTAIN INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, THIS INTERESTING BUILDING.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE.

MR. HORT.

UM, I, I TAKE IT THAT YOU HAVEN'T HAD MUCH TIME TO RESPOND YET.

UH, WERE, WERE YOU NOTIFIED, UH, HOW WERE YOU NOTIFIED FOR OF THIS MEETING? SO I RECEIVED, I RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION, UH, BEFORE THE FIRST MEETING IN, UH, IN, UH, IN JUNE.

RIGHT.

BEFORE THE FIRST DISCUSSION, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION FOR, FOR TODAY'S MEETING.

I KNOW.

NO.

AND THERE WOULD NOT BE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

AND THEN THEY SAID WASN'T THEIR POSITION TO DO THAT, SO THEY WOULD JUST PASS ON OUR INFORMATION THAT WAS YESTERDAY, PASS ON OUR INFORMATION TO THE OWNER AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE OWNER SINCE.

SO YOU, YOU WERE PROPERLY NOTIFIED YOU, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NOW CONVENED, UH, TO WORK ON THIS? YES.

AT, AT THE TIME OF THE LAST MEETING, WE HADN'T HAD, UH, UH, A REGULAR MEMBERSHIP MEETING.

AND WE HAD THAT MEETING, UH, A FEW DAYS LATER.

AND WE DISCUSSED THE PROPERTY AND REACHING OUT TO THE OWNER AND WE'VE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE OWNER THROUGH THEIR AGENT.

AND AT FIRST THEY SAID THEY COULD PUT US IN CONTACT

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE, OF THE, OF THE SPEAKER? UH, YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IT APPEARS THE SPEAKER HAS INFORMATION, UH, I GUESS THAT'S LET THEM KNOW THAT THE INTENT IS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WITH A DUPLEX.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO, CURRENT.

SORRY, I MEANT DUPLEX.

THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT IT'S TWO, TWO UNITS.

OH, SIDE, SIDE UNITS.

THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE EXACT TERM OF DUPLEX, BUT YEAH.

AND IT'S SINGLE FAMILY OWNED, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S AN SF ZONING.

IT'S AN SF THREE, YES.

SF THREE.

SO UNDER THE HOME ORDINANCE, UM, THEY COULD ADD ANOTHER ABSOLUTELY.

THEY COULD KEEP THE DUPLEX IN FRONT AND ADD ANOTHER IN THE BACK AND BE FINE.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND WE HAVE HAD INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSAL, WHICH IS TO BASICALLY, UH, I, I FORGOT THE EXACT SIZE, BUT SOMEWHERE AROUND 2300 SQUARE FEET, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, UH, WHICH WOULD NOT BE IN KEEPING WITH THE, THE OTHER PROP, THE OTHER OLDER PROPERTIES ON THE STREET.

ANY OTHER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YES.

ONLINE WE HAVE MS. BARBARA EPSTEIN.

MS. EPSTEIN, WELCOME.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP, YOU'RE ON.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M A NEARBY NEIGHBOR AND I WAS, UH, UH, INVOLVED IN THE EARLIER APPLICATION FOR THIS.

UM, SO I HAVE A, A FAIR AMOUNT OF, UH, EXPOSURE TO TALKING TO THE OWNER.

UM, BUT AS A NEARBY NEIGHBOR, I USE THE STIMULATION APPLICATION AT 6 0 7 EAST 38TH STREET BECAUSE IT MEETS AT LEAST TWO OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

IT IS MORE THAN 60 YEARS OLD.

IT RETAINS DISTINCT ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTERISTICS OF AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE SINCE IT WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY AS A CRAFTSMAN STYLE DUPLEX, UNLIKE OTHER STRUCTURES CONVERTED INTO DUPLEXES, MOST NOTABLY 6 0 7 EAST 38TH STREET HAS COMMUNITY VALUE BECAUSE ITS LOCATION ON A HIGHLY VISIBLE STREET, ALONG WITH OTHER INTACT ORIGINAL STRUCTURES ALONG 38TH STREET, SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE CHARACTER AND IMAGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE 38TH STREET IS A GATEWAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS HISTORIC EVENTS AND RESIDENCE.

THE APPLICANT DID NOT APPEAR AT THE PREVIOUS HEARING, DID NOT APPEAR TONIGHT, AND HAS NOT INDICATED AN INTENT TO BUILD ANYTHING ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF THIS APPLICATION IS GRANTED AND IS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED WHEN THEY HAD A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT STRUCTURE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD THE PROPERTIES ALONG 38TH STREET WILL LIKELY DOMINO ONE BY ONE, AND OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD WILL DISAPPEAR FOREVER.

SO WE DEPEND ON YOU, THE MEMBERS OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, TO VALUE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF OUR HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVEN IF THE STRUCTURE IN QUESTION IS NOT A MANSION OR THE PRIOR RESIDENCE IS THE SAME AS PERSON AND HEARING THE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE, AND I REALIZE IT WAS A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES HERE IN TERMS OF INTEGRITY OF ARCHITECTURE.

AND I I WILL NOTE THAT A FEW YEARS AGO WE DID A SURVEY OF THIS AREA AND THE AREA BETWEEN 38TH AND UH, 32ND AND RED RIVER TO DUVAL WAS, UH, CONSIDERED HISTORICALLY 80% INTACT.

AND TERRY, TERRY MYERS WAS INVOLVED IN THAT SURVEY.

CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? NO.

MS. SINE, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

APPRECIATE IT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER'S.

HEARING NONE.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVE.

MOTION CLOSE.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ACTON.

UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WARD SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

OKAY, I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, UH, IS UNANIMOUS COMMISSIONERS.

I WILL POINT OUT, UH, AND I GUESS STAFF, YOU CAN HELP ME.

THIS IS NOW A, UH, DEMOLITION REQUEST.

WE HAVE A 75 DAY WINDOW IN THIS SITUATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE, UH, APPLICATION SET THE TIME OUT ON THE 18TH OF AUGUST.

SO WE HAVE ONE MORE, UH, COMMISSION.

SO TECHNICALLY IF WE DO MORE THAN JUST DELAY IT TO THE LAST, UH, MEETING IN AUGUST, WE WOULD HAVE TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING TONIGHT FOR THERE TO THEN BE A CASE PRESENTED AT OUR AUGUST MEETING FOR ACTION.

AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

IT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS A BUILDING TYPE, AND IT REPRESENTS A VERY UNIQUE, UH, COMMUNITY ASSET, UH, FROM THAT ERA, UH, WHERE IT'S NOT JUST A BUNGALOW, BUT IT WAS A BUNGALOW, DUPLEX, UH, BUILT FOR THAT PURPOSE AND SERVING THAT PURPOSE QUITE WELL FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

AND THIS IS, UH, AS MS. EPSTEIN MENTIONED, UH, I'VE, I'VE PASSED THIS FOR YEARS AND THIS IS CERTAINLY A VERY WELL INTACT BUILDING AND COMMISSIONERS, YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT QUESTION OF, EVEN IF

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SO, UH, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, SHOT AT HISTORIC ZONING, UH, EVEN IF IT'S OVER, UH, OWNER'S OBJECTIONS, IT WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO BE, UH, A, A A MOTION MADE TONIGHT AS OPPOSED TO JUST A, UH, UH, UH, A MOTION TO POSTPONE AND, AND TO CLARIFY.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, IN THAT CASE, IT, IT WOULD BE INITIATING OVER NUMBER'S.

OBJECTIONS.

SO WE'D NEED THE THREE QUARTERS MAJORITY BOTH ON THIS COMMISSION AND ON CITY COUNCIL.

UH, YES.

IN ORDER IT ONCE, ONCE THE ACTION WAS, ONCE THE ACTUAL, UH, MOTION WAS BROUGHT TO US, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE THREE, THE, THE, THE TWO, THE, THE, THE MAJORITY, SUPER MAJORITY.

OH, BUT JUST TO INITIATE DOES NOT OKAY, I HEAR YOU.

AND, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT I'M GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WHAT WE DO BY INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING IS ASK STAFF TO DIG MORE DEEPLY INTO THEIR RESEARCH AND ESSENTIALLY MAKE THE CASE FOR WHETHER IT FURTHER MEETS SOME OF THESE CRITERIA.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THE OWNER WOULD BE AWARE THAT, UH, WE ARE TAKING THIS QUESTION VERY SERIOUSLY, UH, MIGHT MEAN THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE HERE AT SUCH A MEETING.

UH, AND THEN WHETHER, WHETHER WE PROCEEDED AT THAT POINT OR NOT TO GET THE SUPER MAJORITY WOULD BE A MATTER OF WHAT HAPPENS IN AUGUST.

SURE.

BUT IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE'LL JUST DELAY IT.

AND BY AUGUST ALL WE COULD DO IS ASK FOR A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

CHAIR I, SETH, I'LL MOVE TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.

COMMISSIONER RICE.

I'M SORRY, WHO WAS THE SECOND? UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ AND ME BOTH, UH, COMMISSIONER RICE WILL LET COMMISSIONER RICE BE THE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? NO, I, I I THINK IT'S, THE OWNER IS PRETTY MUCH FORCING OUR HAND HERE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE TOOLS WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND I WANT TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE.

COMMISSIONER RICE? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS, I'M, I DON'T LIKE, UM, USING THIS, THIS TOOL.

UM, I'VE WISHED THE OWNER HAD BEEN HERE.

UM, BUT I THINK GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND GIVEN, UM, WHAT, WHAT'S ALL AT STAKE IN THE TIMELINES AT HAND, I THINK THINK THIS IS THE BEST OPTION, UM, FOR THIS COMMISSION TO TAKE, UH, WITH THIS PROPERTY POINT OF ORDER.

COULD THE, UH, MOTION MAKER AND OR SECONDER, PLEASE CLARIFY WHICH CRITERIA, UM, THIS PROPERTY FULFILLS FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, UH, FOR ME IS THE ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AND IT WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY VALUE? CORRECT.

AND THE SECONDER WOULD AGREE? YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH, WITH BOTH OF THOSE POINTS.

DO WE NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER TO DO THIS? DOES THAT HAVE TO BE ADDED TO THE MOTION? I THINK JUST FOR CLEANLINESS SAKE, LET'S DO THAT.

WOULD THE MAKER OF THE MOTION ADD THAT AS WELL? YES.

I, I MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CLEANLINESS AS WELL.

UH, AND ADD THAT TO, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER RICE, YOU AGREE THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE MOTION? YEP.

YOU CAN DO IT IN TWO MOTIONS, BUT, AND WE JUST DID IT.

IT'S, IT'S A MOTION.

WE JUST NEED AN AUTOMATIC, BUT , IT'S A LITTLE STICKER.

WE JUST PUT IT ON AT THE RIGHT TIME.

EXIST ALL OVER EAST AND WEST AUSTIN STILL.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? UH, I'M ABOUT TO SAY QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS, SO, OKAY.

I, I KNOW THIS BUILDING, I LIVED VERY CLOSE BY IN HYDE PARK.

AS I SAID, I PASSED IT A VERY LONG TIME.

'CAUSE I DO, EVEN BEFORE WE MOVED TO EAST AUSTIN, I'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN EAST AUSTIN AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT I KNOW OF IN THE CITY THAT IS LIKE THIS BUILDING.

IN FACT, I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A CHU UH, PREFAB, WHICH IS ANOTHER MM-HMM .

RATHER INTERESTING, UH, VERY AUSTIN UNIQUE, UH, ELEMENT WHERE PEOPLE PROBABLY AREN'T AWARE THAT WE HAD, UH, MODULAR HOUSING DOWN TO A SCIENCE THANKS TO SOME VERY ENTREPRENEURIAL FOLKS IN THE 19 TEENS, TWENTIES AND THIRTIES.

AND THERE ARE PIECES OF THAT, UH, ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAT

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MM-HMM.

UH, SOME OF THEM ARE IN OUR PROGRAM.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A CONNECTION THAT CAN BE MADE WITH THIS STRUCTURE.

UH, IT DOES HAVE SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CALCA SHOE LINE, BUT NOT THE SPECIFIC DISTINCTIVE DORMER STYLES.

SO IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S CALCA SHOE LIKE, SHALL WE SAY.

BUT AGAIN, IT WAS PUT TOGETHER AS A DUPLEX, AND IT, IT NOT ONLY SERVED ITS PURPOSE WELL, BUT I THINK IT ALSO SERVED THE COMMUNITY WELL BY ALLOWING FOR, UH, THAT TYPE OF USE AND DENSITY IN THIS AREA.

UH, AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I THINK AS THE, UH, NEIGHBORS WHO POINTED OUT, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM IN THE BACK, SO THERE IS A STRUCTURE IN THE BACK THAT I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO GIVE UP.

IT'S A GARAGE.

UH, BUT IF THAT WAS THE TRADE OFF FOR THIS BUILDING, UH, AND IF THE OWNER, IN FACT WERE TO WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF A HISTORIC BUILDING AND THEN BUILD SENSITIVELY, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, UH, I THINK THEY COULD MEET THEIR GOALS AND HAVE A REAL WIN-WIN, UH, WITH A RESTORED BUILDING.

THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE.

DUPLEX, UH, FOR THE CONTINUATION, I, IT'S, IT, IT WORKED WELL FOR 90 YEARS.

IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE FINE FOR ANOTHER 90.

ANYWAY, I, I'M SORRY.

UH, Y'ALL HAVE TO GET ME ON THE SOAPBOX FOR THIS ONE, BUT IT, I ENCOURAGE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE A MOMENT, JUST GO AHEAD AND PARK AROUND THE BLOCK, WALK AROUND THIS BLOCK, WALK AROUND THIS PROPERTY.

I THINK YOU'LL BE VERY IMPRESSED.

MOST PEOPLE JUST BREEZE PAST 38TH STREET AND NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.

BUT, UH, IT, IT IS, IT IS DEFINITELY A PIECE OF WHAT MAKES AUSTIN SPECIAL AND MAKES AUSTIN WEIRD.

IF, IF I MAY SAY THAT I TOO AM ONE OF THOSE WHO, UH, JUST GENERALLY JUST BREEZES PAST THAT PROPERTY TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND HAVE NOT REALLY PAID ATTENTION TO IT.

WELL, I AM NOW WILLING TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT PROPERTY AND EXAMINE IT AND PUT IT IN THE HISTORIC CONTEXT OF THAT PERIOD AS WELL.

OF THE 1930S.

AND AS ONE WHO REMEMBERS CAL CASU LUMBER COMPANY, UM, UM, AMONG MANY LOCAL, LOCALLY OWNED LUMBER COMPANIES THAT ARE NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE.

I'M, I'M CURIOUS NOW.

AND, UM, AND, AND I, AND I'M ALSO FRANKLY, UM, CONCERNED THAT THE PERSON WHO HAS PROPOSED THIS, UM, DEMOLITION, UH, HAS NOT BOTHERED TO SHOW AT ANY TIME.

MAYBE WE'LL CHARITABLY SAY THEY, THEY WEREN'T AS AWARE OF ITS OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY MIGHT BE NOW.

WELL THANK YOU THEN.

WE, WE WILL SAY IT THAT WAY.

I DON'T MEAN TO BE MALICIOUS OR ANYTHING, SO SORRY IF IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF, IF THEY CAME ACROSS AS BEING THAT WAY.

SO, YEAH.

YEP.

COMMISSION.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHAIR.

SURE.

UM, IS, ARE YOU AWARE, UM, IF THIS PROPERTY, UM, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE UNDER THE PRESERVATION BONUS IN HOME, UM, SINCE THERE'S TWO, CURRENTLY TWO UNITS IN IT'S ZONE FOR THREE? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

AND, UH, I, I CAN'T SAY THAT I'M FULLY VERSED IN THE PRESERVATION BONUS COMPONENT, BUT IT SEEMS ON THE FACE THAT THIS WOULD MEET CERTAINLY THE SPIRIT OF THAT AND THAT MAY VERY WELL QUALIFY FOR ANOTHER, UH, UH, ANOTHER UNIT.

YEAH, I MEAN, JUST 'CAUSE I MEAN, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT AND, AND, AND KNOWING THAT ONCE AGAIN, NOT BEING SUPER WELL VERSED IN LIKE, THE MINUTIA OF HOW THAT THAT BONUS WORKS.

IT DOES FEEL LIKE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT AS AN OPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD ONCE AGAIN BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE.

SO COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE CONVERSATION? DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, HEARD FROM THE, UH, FROM THE, THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT.

UH, I WILL CALL THE QUESTION THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

IS THERE NO, I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS.

IT'S ALL, IT'S UNANIMOUS.

SO WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STAFF FOR YOUR GOOD WORK AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO KNOWING A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE SEE YOU IN AUGUST.

ALRIGHT, THE LAST DISCUSSION ITEM

[21. DA-2025-051808 – 611 W Martin Luther King Jr Blvd. Council District 9]

IS ITEM NUMBER 21.

UH, THIS IS SIX 11 WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING,

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JR BOULEVARD.

AND THIS IS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND IT'S, UM, WAS RELATED TO OUR CASE LAST, UH, MONTH, BUT WE HAD TO POSTPONE AND THAT THERE WAS SOME COMPLICATION WITH THE SIGHTING.

AND SO NOW IT IS PROPERLY, UH, SUBMITTED AS A, UH, DEMOLITION PERMIT.

UH, YES CHAIR.

THIS ITEM WAS, UH, SUPPOSED TO APPEAR LAST MONTH WITH A SLEW OF RELATED ITEMS, BUT THE, UH, THE NOTIFICATION MAP WAS INCORRECT DUE TO THE SITE'S COMPLEXITY.

UM, SO NOW THE MAP HAS BEEN IRONED OUT AND, UH, WE CAN CONTINUE WITH OUR LAST CASE OF THE EVENING.

UH, THIS IS ITEM 21, UH, WHICH IS 6 0 7, 6 11, AND SIX 19 WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD.

AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO DEMOLISH A COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL COMPLEX, INCLUDING A CIRCA 1939 WAREHOUSE BUILDING AND CIRCA 1954 BUILDINGS DESIGNED BY AUSTIN ARCHITECT AUGUST WATKINS HARRIS.

THE EARLIEST PART OF THE BUILDING IS A ONE STORY MASONRY WEAR WAREHOUSE WITH STUCCO SLIP COVER, LARGE MULTI PANE WINDOWS AND MINIMALISTIC DETAILING, SUGGESTING MODERN AND STYLISTIC INFLUENCES BENEATH THE STUCCO.

THE ADJACENT 19 54 2 STORY PORTION OF THE BUILDING ORIGINALLY DESIGNED BY A WATKINS HARRIS IS A FLAT ROOFED MODERN TWO PART COMMERCIAL BLOCK WITH METAL HOPPER AND MULTI LIGHT PICTURE WINDOWS, A SUSPENSION CANOPY WITH THE ORIGINAL SIGN AND STUCCO OVER MASON RE CLADDING THE 1954.

ONE SET STORY SECTION OF THE BUILDING ALSO DESIGNED BY HARRIS IS A FLAT ROOFED MODERN, ONE PART COMMERCIAL BLOCK CONSTRUCTED WITH CONCRETE UNDER STUCCO, UH, AND A METAL AND GLASS STOREFRONT ASSEMBLY.

THE ORIGINAL 1939 LAUNDRY FACILITY, UH, WAS COMMISSIONED BY CHARLES A. BURTON, A DRY CLEANER WHO SLOWLY PURCHASED AND DEMOLISHED THE EARLIER HOUSES ON THE BLOCK TO CREATE A LARGE DRY CLEANING COMPLEX.

OVER THE COURSE OF 15 YEARS.

BURTON'S LAUNDRY AND CLEANERS WAS AN INITIAL SUCCESS, THOUGH LABOR SHORTAGES DURING AND AFTER WORLD WAR II CAUSED A GOOD DEAL OF UPHEAVAL IN THE INDUSTRY.

THUS, BURTON INVESTED HEAVILY IN NEW TEXTILE CLEANING TECHNOLOGY.

BY 1954, HE HAD COMMISSIONED ARCHITECT AUGUST WATKINS HARRIS TO DESIGN A NEW FACILITY FOR HIS FULLY MODERN BUSINESS.

PRIOR TO WORLD WAR II, HARRIS HAD BEEN A PRINCIPAL OF G CKI AND HARRIS, A PROLIFIC FIRM WHOSE PWA FUNDED PROJECTS SPAN THE STATE.

DURING THE GREAT DEPRESSION, HIS MODERN DESIGNS OF THE 1950S FEATURED DRAMATIC GEOMETRIC MASSING AND STRONG HORIZONTAL ELEPHANT ELEMENTS, UH, WHICH ARE ON DISPLAY IN THE ONE AND TWO STORY BUILDINGS HE DESIGNED ADJACENT TO THE ORIGINAL BURTON'S LAUNDRY.

HARRISON BURTON ALSO SHARED AN INTEREST IN CIVIC SERVICE THROUGH THEIR MEMBERSHIP IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND VARIOUS CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

BURTON LEASED THE ONE STORY PORTION OF HIS COMPLEX TO OPERATORS OF A SEVEN 11 CONVENIENCE STORE, AND THEY EVENT EVENTUALLY SOLD THE ENTIRE FACILITY TO JACK BROWN CLEANERS WHO ARE STILL IN OPERATION TODAY.

THE 2025 DOWNTOWN AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY LISTS THE TWO STORY BUILDING AS ELIGIBLE FOR LOCAL LANDMARK LISTING.

IT LISTS ALL THREE ADDRESSES AS CONTRIBUTING TO POTENTIAL LOCAL AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.

AND ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, THE BUILDING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF 20TH CENTURY ONE IN TWO PART COMMERCIAL SPACE DISPLAYING MID-CENTURY MODERN AND ART DECO STYLISTIC INFLUENCES.

UH, IT ALSO HAS SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY, UH, WITH COMM COMMERCE DEVELOPMENT IN CENTRAL AUSTIN AND AS A LEGACY BUSINESS.

THUS, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING PER DOWNTOWN AUSTIN SURVEY RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE STAFF DOES UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A CHALLENGING AND EXPANSIVE SITE, THUS, SHOULD THE COMMISSION DECIDE AGAINST HISTORIC ZONING STAFF STRONGLY ENCOURAGES ADAPTIVE REUSE AND INTEGRATION OF THESE PEDESTRIAN SCALE STRUCTURES INTO FUTURE SITE DEVELOPMENT, THEN ENCOURAGEMENT OF DECONSTRUCTION AND MATERIAL SALVAGE, BUT TO ULTIMATELY RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

THANK YOU STAFF.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF? OKAY.

HEARING NONE, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE? I HAVE MS. LEO BOJO ONLINE.

OKAY, MS. BOJO, WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU YET.

COMMISSIONERS, MRS. LI BOJO WITH JENNIFER GROUP APPEAR ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

GOTCHA.

IS MY PRESENTATION UP? UH, YES, THE PRESENTATION IS NOW UP.

OKAY, GREAT.

CAN SEE THE OTHER DEMOLITION PERMITS, UM, THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROJECT.

I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME, LETTING ME DIAL IN.

UM, SO AGAIN, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, UM, FOR THESE ADDRESSES, WHICH WOULD BE PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT WE AS, AS MS. CONTRERAS MENTIONED, UM, PRESENTED TO YOU LAST MONTH.

UM, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE TWO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS PROJECT SITE IS, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT JUDGES HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, IF YOU GO ON TO SLIDE THREE, YOU

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IT WOULD ACTUALLY, THIS, THESE ARE THE PORTION OF PERMITS THAT WERE HERE, THAT ARE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, AND THEN THE, THE REST OF THE BLOCK WOULD BE PART OF THE LARGER DEVELOPMENT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, UM, IS NUMBER FOUR.

UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE WE'RE LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SURVEY.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS AREA IS QUITE A BIT LARGER THAN THE JUDGE, THE CURRENT JUDGES HILL DISTRICT.

AND IF YOU GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE FIVE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, ALSO THAT THERE'S A VERY EXPANSIVE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE DISTRICT RANGING FROM 1855 TO 1973.

UM, THIS, THIS BUILDING IS, UM, IS FROM THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY, UM, OR THESE BUILDINGS I SHOULD SAY.

SO IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE SIX, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS ARE OBVIOUSLY, UM, AT LEAST 50 YEARS OLD.

UM, THEY RANGE FROM BEING 70 TO 86 YEARS OLD BY, BY ADDRESS.

BUT I THINK ONE OF THE BIG CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS THE DEGREE OF INTEGRITY, UM, THAT'S REQUIRED TO CONVEY THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, WHICH I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE SEVEN.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE HERE THAT, UM, THE OTHER, THE OTHER, UH, CRITERIA THAT IS POTENTIALLY POINTED OUT AS HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, UM, WHICH I WILL ALSO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

UM, IF WE MOVE ON TO SLIDE EIGHT, UM, I, I WON'T MAKE, I WON'T JUST REDO THE SLIDE, BUT I'LL JUST SAY FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, I THINK IT'S CHALLENGING TO SAY THAT THIS REALLY MEET, UM, THE LEVEL OF INTEGRITY THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

UM, THE FIRST PORTION OF THE BUILDING, SIX 19 WAS BUILT IN 1939, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL LAUNDRY AND CLEANING BUILDING.

SIX 11 WAS BUILT IN 1955, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT, OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANTLY LATER.

AND 6 0 7 WAS BUILT IN 1954, WHICH IS ORIGINALLY A SEVEN 11 STORE.

UM, SO I THINK THESE DISTINCT PARTS DO SORT OF, UM, MUDDY THE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY A BIT HERE AND SORT OF SPAN, UM, A PRETTY LONG, UM, A PRETTY OR A PRETTY WIDE RANGE OF USES AND, AND TIME.

UM, IF YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, NUMBER NINE, YOU CAN SEE KIND OF ON THE MAP WHERE THESE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS ARE.

UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE CHANGE EVEN FROM 1940 TO 1958.

SO THAT OLDEST BUILDING IS FROM 1939, AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE SITE WAS, WAS REALLY IN FLUX OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

UM, THEN IF WE MOVE ON TO SLIDE 10, I THINK THE OTHER CHALLENGING PIECE OF THIS WOULD BE THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION.

UM, IT IS TRUE THAT IT WAS A LAUNDROMAT, OF COURSE, UM, AND IT WAS EVENTUALLY PURCHASED BY JACK BROWN CLEANERS.

UM, BUT SOME OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS, UM, ABOUT JACK, LIKE THIS WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF JACK BROWN CLEANERS WAS ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY IN MIDLAND.

AND, AND IT'S NOT EVEN THE ORIGINAL LOCATION IN AUSTIN.

UM, IT'S ALSO NOT THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF THE BURTON'S LAUNDRY AND CLEANERS, WHICH WAS THE, WHICH WAS THE FIRST DRY CLEANER THAT WAS THERE.

UM, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF MANY LOCATIONS, BUT NOT REALLY, UH, A CONTINUOUS KIND OF USE THERE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE STAFF REPORT TALKED ABOUT, UM, MARTINIZING, I THINK IS THE WAY YOU SAY IT, WHICH IS A, A DRY CLEANING PROCESS.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT PROCESS IS JUST, WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS, THAT JACK BROWN CLEANERS OR EVEN BURTON CLEANERS CAME UP WITH.

IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY, UM, USED AND, AND SORT OF TOOK, TOOK ON IN THIS LOCATION.

UM, IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE 11, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS WHAT SIX 11 LOOKED LIKE ORIGINALLY.

SO OBVIOUSLY VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE BUILDING THAT WAS THERE TODAY.

UM, THIS IS FROM THE JACK BROWN CLEANERS WEBSITE.

AND THEN IF YOU MOVE ON AFTER THAT, YOU CAN, UM, THE SLIDES JUST KIND OF LOOK THROUGH THE, WHAT THE SITE LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE EXTENT OF THE, UM, ALTERATION.

UM, IF YOU LOOK ON AT SLIDE 13, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MLK SIDE, UM, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT IT REALLY IS THREE SEPARATE BUILDINGS, NOT IN GREAT CONDITION, UM, HERE IN THIS LOCATION, I THINK WITH THAT INTEGRITY LOSS.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD, UM, MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTION.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MS. POJO.

QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS? NO.

COMMISSIONER CANNA GUCCI.

UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST? OKAY.

UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, COMMISSIONER REPORTER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, UM, YOU HEARD STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

UM, WHAT IS YOUR,

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WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROPOSE? WHAT ACTION WOULD YOU LIKE US TO TAKE? I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER, UH, INITIATION OF HISTON HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN SURVEY.

ARE YOU MAKING THAT AS A MOTION? I'M MAKING THAT AS, AS, AS AS A MOTION, YES.

COMMISSIONER FRIGHT.

IS THERE A SECOND? SI DON'T IF WE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.

IF WE'RE JUST DOING INITIATION, CAN WE DISCUSS BEFORE VOTING? OH, WE'LL HAVE TO, OH, YES.

EVEN THE DISCUSSION FOR SURE.

THERE'LL BE A DISCUSSION EVEN ABOUT THE INITIATION.

GOTCHA.

SO THAT HAS TO PASS FOR THE MAJORITY VOTE? MM-HMM .

JUST, JUST TO EVEN GET THE BALL ROLLING.

SO, UH, EVEN JUST SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT, I WILL NEED A SECOND.

IS ANYONE WILLING TO SECOND THE MOTION? OKAY.

IF NOT, THEN NO PROBLEM.

WE'LL NEED ANOTHER MOTION.

AND WE CAN EITHER HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST OR TO, UM, POSTPONE I'D MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE REQUEST.

UM, YOU KNOW, STRONGLY ENCOURAGING, UM, REUSE AND INTEGRATION OF, UH, PEDESTRIAN SCALE STRUCTURES.

UM, BUT OVERALL, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, WE CAN'T GET THERE, UH, RELEASE THE, THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE MM-HMM .

AND DOES THAT REQUIRE THAT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE REOPENED? DOES IT? THIS MOTION THAT ONE DOES NOT.

SO YOU'RE FINE.

IS THERE A SECOND TO TAN SECOND? COMMISSIONER FRIGHT? UH, SECOND.

UH, COMMISSIONER TAN GCI, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND ON YOUR MOTION? UM, YEAH, SURE.

I'M, I'M JUST NOT CONVINCED THAT, UM, I GUESS, UH, THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION OF A, UM, DRY CLEANER THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF IT.

UM, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THAT HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION IS STRONG ENOUGH IN ORDER TO, I GUESS, IMPLEMENT OR INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.

UM, AND SO THAT'S HOW I GOT THERE.

COMMISSIONER UPRIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, THE REASON WHY I MADE THAT MOTION IS, UH, LOOKING, LOOKING AT THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ARCHITECTURE AND OF THE 1939 BUILDING AS WELL AS THE MID-CENTURY, UH, BUILDINGS FROM THE 1950S THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS, UM, THAT IT, IT WAS, IT WAS A LOGICAL, A LOGICAL, UH, REASON TO DO THIS.

I, I DO AGREE WITH, WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, THE ENCOURAGEMENT TO REUSE AND THE INTEGRATION OF THESE, UH, PEDESTRIAN SCALE STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, INTO FUTURE SITE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THERE ARE SO MANY ALREADY.

I MEAN, THIS IS THEN A UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AREA, A UNIVERSITY AREA WHERE YOU HAVE STUDENTS AND, AND THERE ARE ALREADY SOME GIGANTIC BUILDINGS ALONG, UH, WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

BOULEVARD THAT ARE, I THINK, TOTALLY OUT OF SCALE WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU'LL FIND ALONG WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING.

AND TO BE IN A UNIVERSITY, AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE LOTS OF STUDENTS AND MANY STUDENTS WHO, WHO DO IN FACT ARE, ARE PEDESTRIANS.

THIS ALSO BE A WAY OF PERHAPS ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS AND, AND WALK.

OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I'LL MAKE A COMMENT.

I, I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A STRONG ENOUGH STRUCTURE TO, TO IMPLEMENT ANY KIND OF A, UM, CHANGE.

BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LOSE THAT TYPE OF A SCALE.

DO YOU HAVE YOUR MICROPHONE ON? SORRY.

UM, IT'D BE A SHAME TO KEEP LOSE, TO KEEP LOSING THAT KIND OF SCALE ON CERTAIN, CERTAIN OF THESE MAJOR ROADS IN, IN AREAS OF THE CITY WHEN EVERYTHING IS GONNA POP UP TO BE, YOU KNOW, SUDDENLY SIX STORIES OR WHATEVER.

SO MM-HMM .

YEAH, I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO, UH, WITH A, PARTICULARLY WITH OUR NEW DOWNTOWN SURVEY, BE ABLE TO HAVE A, A,

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A PROJECT THAT WE COULD KIND OF WALK THROUGH AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THANKS TO SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, NOW THIS WILL, THIS WILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN THAT WOULDN'T PERHAPS HAVE OTHERWISE.

BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, UH, EVEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, I, I, WE PROBABLY COULD MAKE THE CASE FOR ASSOCIATION, BUT I THINK THE NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE TO THE STRUCTURE, UH, THE PERIOD THAT REALLY WOULD BE OF SIGNIFICANCE, UH, I THINK AS MS. BOGGIO SHOWED US, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING.

SO THAT SAID, UM, IT IS ADJACENT TO THE JUDGES HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, UH, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND THE SCALE OF MLK AS A WALKABLE STREET IS AT RISK IF ALL WE'RE BUILDING ARE MEGA TOWERS.

AND SO WHETHER THIS APPLICANT WERE TO, AS STAFF RECOMMENDS MAINTAIN SOME, OR SOME PORTION OF THIS AS HISTORIC FABRIC, WE WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THAT.

BUT EVEN IF NOT, UH, WHAT REPLACES IT, HAVING THAT ONE TO TWO STORY SCALE VERY CLEARLY DELINEATED AT THE STREET LEVEL, I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT FOR THE CONTINUITY OF THE INTEGRITY OF MLK.

SO I, I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD.

BUT I WILL ALSO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, UH, WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE QUE OF THE MOTION, UH, TO SUPPORT DEMOLITION, UH, AND WITH THE CAVEATS AS INDICATED BY STAFF, UH, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND MM-HMM .

AND I SEE ALMOST ALL HANDS RAISED, UH, BUT ALL THOSE OPPOSED MM-HMM .

AND I SEE COMMISSIONER UPRIGHT IS OPPOSED, BUT ALL THE REST ARE PRESENT.

JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M, UM, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN, I'M SORRY.

UH, SO THIS IS A, UH, THE, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE, UH, AS WAS MADE BY TANA GCI, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER UPRIGHT MM-HMM .

UH, IS TO, UH, RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, PENDING THE, UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, AND THEN WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR POTENTIAL REUSE OR PARTIAL REUSE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.

SO, UH, WITH THAT CLARIFICATION, LET ME TAKE THE VOTE AGAIN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

IS FOR THE SELECTION AND THE APPROVAL OF MEMBERS TO OUR OPERATIONS AND PRESERVATION PLANS, COMMITTEES.

AND NOW I DO SEE ALL HANDS RAISED.

IT IS UNANIMOUS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, THAT IS OUR LAST DISCUSSION CASE.

THE NEXT ITEM

[25. Select and approve members to serve on the Operations and Preservation Plan committees.]

UH, AND NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT POPULATING THE GRANTS COMMITTEE, HOWEVER, IN ALL THE COMMITTEES CASES, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, UH, AND FIRST OFF, THE COMPLIMENTS TO THE STAFF IN PUTTING TOGETHER AN EXCELLENT, UH, PRESENTATION FOR OUR ORIENTATION AND ALL THE NEW MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO ATTEND AND THE NUMBER OF THE EXISTING MEMBERS.

AND I KNOW WE ALL GOT A LOT OUT OF IT.

SO, UH, NOW AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT A DATE FOR A RETREAT AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT COMMITTEES, COMMITTEE ROLES, AND POSSIBLY REPOPULATING THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE.

SO JUST BECAUSE YOU VOLUNTEER FOR SOMETHING NOW, YOU COULD TRY IT OUT, DECIDE YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GET TO THE RETREAT, RETHINK IT.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO MIX AND MATCH, BUT THESE ARE COMMITTEES THAT NEED TO MEET, THEY NEED TO BE POPULATED.

SO, WITH THAT, KARA, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? I DO HAVE SOME, YES.

OH, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE A TIME LIMIT, SO I WILL HAVE TO STEP OFF TO DI OKAY.

I DON'T THINK I'M COVERED WITH THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

YOU, YOU ALREADY HAVE A COMMITTEE, SO YOU YEAH.

COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPOINTMENTS

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR.

KARA BERTRAN WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

GOOD TO BE HERE WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT.

UM, AND AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, THIS IS, WE FINALLY HAVE A FULL DAIS.

SO WE ARE AT THE REALLY EXCITING MOMENT, THE THRILLING MOMENT, POSSIBLY OF COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS.

UM, AND AS YOU, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND OTHERS FROM CLOSE OBSERVATION COMMITTEES PLAY A REALLY VITAL ROLE IN THE COMMISSION'S WORK.

UM, DO, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE TIME, THERE'S MORE SPACE, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AND KIND OF ROLLING UP YOUR SLEEVES AND WADING INTO BOTH, UH, DETAILS AND THE BIG PICTURE.

SO, UM, UH, WE ARE, THE SLIDE SHOWS THREE, UH, WELL ALL FOUR COMMITTEES AS OUTLINED IN THE BYLAWS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A FULL ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH IS GREAT.

AND, UH, TONIGHT IS THE CHAIR MENTIONED.

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TO THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AND THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.

AND WE'VE SUMMARIZED HERE IN SOME VERY QUICK BULLET POINTS WHAT THOSE COMMITTEES DO.

UM, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN, UH, MORE ABUNDANT FOR A VERY LONG TIME WITH VERY OCCASIONAL MEETINGS.

UM, BUT WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE IT MEET MORE REGULARLY.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT COMMITTEE AS WE, AS WE STRIDE INTO IMPLEMENTING THE EQUITY BASED PRESERVATION PLAN.

ITS ROLES, ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS, ARE TO LOOK AT CODE CHANGES, TO THINK ABOUT EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE, UH, REALLY THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF, OF HOW WE, HOW WE DO PRESERVATION WORK.

SO THIS WOULD BE WORKING IN, UH, WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH STAFF, WITH, WITH ANNIE AND I, UH, ANNIE AND ME.

AND, UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE WOULD MEET VERY REGULARLY.

I'D LIKE TO START OFF MEETING MONTHLY, POSSIBLY TALK ABOUT AN EVERY OTHER MONTH'S SCHEDULE, BUT IT WOULD BE A PRETTY REGULAR COMMITMENT.

UM, THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE PLAYED AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN FORMING THE EQUITY BASED PRESERVATION PLAN AND GETTING IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

UH, THE COMMISSION'S BYLAWS, UM, PUT THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE AT A BIGGER PICTURE LEVEL.

SO WE SEE THAT THAT COMMITTEE'S ROLE AS BEING, UM, THE, THE FREQUENCY AS BEING MORE PERIODIC, UM, AND THE ROLE AS, AS LOOKING AT, AT LOOKING AT, SAY, THE BUDGET OR THE, AND THE ANNUAL REPORT.

SO BEING LESS INVOLVED WITH THE DETAILS OF IMPLEMENTING, UH, PROCESS CHANGES OR, OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, DO WE HAVE TO WORK AS HARD AS YOU DO ? YES.

40 HOURS A WEEK IN THE OFFICE? YES.

NOT POSSIBLE.

WELL, I, I, I SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PRESERVATION PLANNING COMMITTEE AND ALL YOUR DEDICATION, COMMITMENT, AND WORK.

COULD YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? YEAH.

YOU HAVE TO COMMISSIONER LORI TO TURN YOUR MIC ON SO WE CAN NO, I'M JUST SAYING GET YOUR COMPLIMENTS FOR THE, RECORD HER ON WHAT A TREMENDOUS EFFORT THAT WAS.

AND LET ME JUST SUPPLEMENT WHAT, UH, MS. PERRAN IS TELLING US, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO HELPING STAFF WITH THESE REGULAR MEETINGS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE WE AS VOLUNTEERS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPLEMENT OR HELP, OR IN SOME CASES, REINFORCE WHAT STAFF'S DOING IN PUBLIC MEETINGS.

UH, SOMETIMES IN PRESENTATIONS, AND EVEN SPECIFICALLY AT COUNCIL, UH, AND THOSE REGULAR MEETINGS, I CAN SAY THAT THE HEAVY LIFTING THAT WAS DONE BY SOME OF YOU HERE AND SOME OF YOUR PREDECESSORS, UH, WAS WAY BEYOND JUST MEETING WITH STAFF ON A MONTHLY BASIS OR, OR EVERY OTHER WEEK, UH, UH, I MEAN EVERY, EVERY SIX WEEKS.

BUT IT WAS ALSO, UM, AND, AND KEEP IN MIND THAT BOTH THE PRESERVATION PLAN AND THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, THAT, THAT HELPING TO MAKE CONNECTIONS, HELPING WITH THE OUTREACH, HELPING TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE IN, UH, CAN EXIST BEYOND JUST THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURED MEETINGS AS WELL.

AND THEN COMMUNICATING BACK TO YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS CHAIR, I'LL JUST REFER, DEFER TO YOUR DISCRETION ON MY APPOINTMENT TO COMMITTEE .

AND YOU'RE ALREADY SERVING AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I'LL, I'LL LET YOUR CONSCIENCE BE YOUR GUY.

LET ME DO THIS.

UH, I THINK THERE'S NOT A GOOD WAY, UNLESS THEY'RE QUESTIONS.

I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE, WE GET PEOPLE'S PREFERENCE THAT WE ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, PARTICULARLY YOUR NEW, THE NEW MEMBERS.

BUT WHAT I'M GONNA PROPOSE IS THE, THE GRANTS SLASH ACME LIAISON COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IF YOU HEARD THE EARLIER PRESENTATION OR EXCITED BY THAT, JUST PUT YOURSELF ON HOLD OR LET US KNOW.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE RETREAT.

IF, AS WE PROCEED, MEMBERS MIGHT FEEL THEMSELVES.

AND BY THE WAY, UH, THE A RC MEMBERS, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK ALVAREZ, WHO JUST HAD TO LEAVE, AND COMMISSIONER GROGAN, UH, I'M ASSUMING ALL OF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND WE HAVEN'T CHASED ANY OF YOU OFF YET.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO REAPPOINT ANYBODY ON THE A RC AM.

AM I JUST MAKE SURE I'M STATING THAT CORRECTLY.

COMMISSIONER GROGAN.

SO WE'RE TALKING CORRECT.

I'LL, I'LL STAY WHERE I AM.

PERFECT.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE POSITIONS.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE REASON IT'S NOT FOUR IS BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR THESE COMMITTEES TO MEET, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM.

IF THERE WERE FOUR MEMBERS, THEN IT WOULD TAKE THREE MEMBERS TO HAVE A QUORUM.

THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH BAR FOR THE KIND OF WORK THE COMMITTEES DO.

AND AS MANY OF YOU WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE RECOGNIZE YOU CAN PARTICIPATE, BE ACTIVE, ATTEND MEETINGS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER.

AND I, I HAPPEN TO HAVE ALSO JUST RECENTLY ATTENDED AN A RC MEETING.

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JUST TELL STAFF YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT.

THAT'S ALL.

SO YOU DON'T FREAK 'EM OUT ABOUT QUORUM.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CERTAINLY ATTEND EVEN IF YOU AREN'T OFFICIALLY ON THE COMMITTEE.

I SEE.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, AS I MENTIONED, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, IF ANY OF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT MAY BE WHERE YOU BELONG, LET'S SEE A RAISE OF HANDS AND THEN POSSIBLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

IF THERE'S MORE THAN THREE, IF THERE'S FOUR OF YOU, THEN WE MAY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO AT LEAST FOR NOW, IS WILLING TO DROP OFF.

AND THEN I'LL DO THE SAME FOR THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.

AND NOW EVERYBODY WILL BE SERVING ON A COMMITTEE.

SO YOU CAN'T JUST HOLD ON AND SIT ON YOUR HANDS AND DECIDE YOU'RE NOT GONNA SERVE ON A COMMITTEE THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.

BUT IF EITHER OF THESE TWO APPEAL TO YOU, LET'S GO ONE AT A TIME AND FIGURE OUT WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT WANNA BE.

AND SO, JUST A SHOW OF HANDS, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, POTENTIAL MEMBERS, WHO HAS AN INTEREST THERE, AND PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS IF YOU HAVE.

COMMISSIONER ACTON.

UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MCR.

AND COMMISSIONER RICE.

SO THAT IS FOUR OF YOU.

SO IF, IF ANY ONE OF YOU FEELS LIKE YOU'RE NOT AS CONCERNED, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, REMEMBER WE'RE GONNA RESHUFFLE AFTER OUR RETREAT.

UH, DO YOU, ANY, ANY OF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO COULD STEP BACK AND THE OTHER THREE STAY, WE CAN STEP BACK.

BEG YOUR PARDON? OH, I SAID I CAN, I CAN STEP BACK AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER RICE.

I'M, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA LET COMMISSIONER LAROSE, UH, STEP BACK BECAUSE HE'S, HE, HE KNOWS HIS, HIS HIS BUSINESS AND WILL BE VERY ACTIVE WHERE WE NEED HIM.

AND HE'S ALSO ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

AND SO THAT, THAT MEANS YOU STAY, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO, WORKS FOR ME.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE CAN TAKE A MOTION TO POPULATE THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE WITH COMMISSIONER RICE, COMMISSIONER ACTON, AND COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND, .

ALL RIGHTY.

AND THAT'S DONE.

WE'LL DO THE SAME THING WITH THE PRESERVATION PLAN.

ANYBODY WHO IS MOTIVATED IN THAT AREA, UH, NOT SERVING ON, BEG YOUR PARDON, JUST PERIOD.

I'LL DO THE PERIOD.

COMMISSIONER ROCHE, WHO, WHO ELSE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE PRESERVATION PLAN? OH, COMMISSIONER RY.

YEAH, I, I WILL BE, UH, ONLY BECAUSE I AM ALREADY ON SO MANY COMMITTEES AND SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS AND I'M STILL WORKING FULL TIME, SO I, I I'M WILLING TO START ON SOMETHING LIKE THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.

UH, AND IS THERE ONE MORE? WHOSE HAND IS RAISED? OH, THERE WE GO.

WE NEED TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL INTERNAL REVIEW AND REPORT WITH A HUGE THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER EVANS, WHO DID SOME MAGNIFICENT WORDSMITHING AT THE DROP OF A HAT TO MAKE ALL OF THAT HAPPEN.

UH, COMMISSIONER EVANS.

ALRIGHT, SO THAT GETS US THREE AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER UPRIGHT, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE AND COMMISSIONER EVANS TO SERVE ON THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

DO I GET TO VOTE ON THAT? EVERYBODY DOES.

ALL THOSE ARE, AGAIN, IT'S UNANIMOUS.

AND SO WE HAVE POPULATED THOSE COMMITTEES FOR THE TIME BEING, UH, NOW COMMISSIONERS,

[27. Vote to approve the 2024-2025 Annual Internal Review and Report. ]

SO IT'S IN YOUR BACKUP, UH, BETWEEN THE WORK OF STAFF AND COMMISSIONER EVANS.

I, I DID VERY LITTLE OTHER THAN JUST SAY HELP.

UH, WE GOT THAT IN ON TIME.

UH, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE APPROVED.

SO, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER EVANS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? YES.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, REPORT AND PLAN AS PRESENTED SECOND AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROCHE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, COMMISSIONER GROGAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ON YOUR REPORT? UH, I THINK WE COVERED A LOT IN TODAY'S MEETING.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ANY ADDITIONAL REPORTS, BUT IS THE

[28. Architectural Review Committee – Comments on the June 11, 2025 meeting. Members: Commissioners Koch, Alvarez, Grogan.]

, UM, COVERING A LOT OF CASES THAT CAME BEFORE THE A RC.

UM, I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF FOLKS TO APPEAR OR AT LEAST LISTEN, UH, TO COMMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S ALL GOOD NEWS.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO ATTEND TO? STAFF? ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BOARDER.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

ALRIGHT, FANTASTIC.