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          UH, IT'S 
          [CALL TO ORDER ]
A MONDAY, JULY 7TH, 6 88 30 9:00 PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO ORDER. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY UNDER PUBLIC, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TODAY. 
          SO WE WILL MOVE 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          IF EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 2ND MEETING, UH, PLEASE. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          AND ALSO, DO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER BLEVINS ONLINE? I THINK WE SHOULD GET HER IN. 
          THAT WOULD BE A, A FULL HOUSE TODAY. 
          ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE, ARE ON RIGHT NOW ARE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MOTION TO FOR APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JUNE 2ND? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM, UM, COMMISSIONER ENGLAND, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PRICE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? RIGHT? MOTION IS APPROVED. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A QUICK MOTION TO MOVE THE PRESENTATION ON GRANT OPPORTUNITIES WITH NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION HOME, UH, BY MS. HANNAH COFFER, UM, UP ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND, UH, I THINK, UH, SHE NEEDS TO LEAVE A LITTLE EARLY TODAY. 
          SO, UM, IF, UH, WE WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION FOR THAT. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PRICE? ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT, SO 
          [6. Presentation on grant opportunities with non-profit organization, Housing Opportunities  for Musicians & Entertainers (HOME Austin) by Hanna Cofer, Executive Director, HOME.]
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, COVER THE AGENDA. 
          ITEM NUMBER SIX. 
          FIRST ON THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. PRESENTATION ON GRANT OPPORTUNITIES WITH NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSICIANS AND ENTERTAINERS. 
          HOME AUSTIN BY HANNAH COFFER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HOME. 
          THANK YOU, HANNAH. 
          IS THIS LIVE? OKAY. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          I CAN GET STARTED WHILE YOU'RE PULLING THAT UP. 
          UM, YEAH, NO PROBLEM. 
          I PROMISE TO BE VERY BRIEF. 
          Y'ALL SEEM TO HAVE A VERY PACKED AGENDA, SO I APPRECIATE YOU FITTING ME IN. 
          IT'S VERY TIMELY. 
          SO, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS HANNAH FER. 
          I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HOME. 
          IF YOU DON'T KNOW US YET, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. 
          WE'RE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSICIANS AND ENTERTAINERS. 
          UM, I ALSO APPRECIATE EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT, UH, TO THIS COMMISSION AND THIS COMMUNITY. 
          I WAS, I PROMISED THAT I WOULD PLUG THIS. 
          IT IS OUR CURRENT BOARD CHAIR AND PRESIDENT WAS THE FIRST MUSIC COMMISSIONER CHAIR HERE IN AUSTIN . 
          SO I PROMISED TO SAY THAT, UM, ALL TO SAY I VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU ALL SPEND FOR THIS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I ALSO WANNA START BY SAYING THAT I'M NOT HERE TO ASK FOR FUNDING OR PRESENT A PROPOSAL. 
          , UM, HOME DOES NOT RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          WE'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST ANY. 
          WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PRIVATELY FUNDED NONPROFIT BUILT ON THE GENEROSITY OF INDIVIDUALS AND INSTITUTIONS THAT CARE ABOUT THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY. 
          WE ARE FOUNDED BY MUSICIANS FOR MUSICIANS AND SUPPORTED BY PEOPLE THAT LOVE MUSIC VERY SIMPLY. 
          UM, SO AS THAT'S, I'LL JUST KEEP GOING. 
          UH, SO HOME PROVIDES CRITICAL HOUSING SUPPORT TO AUSTIN AGING, AUSTIN MUSICIANS THROUGH RENT AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE, CASE MANAGEMENT AND EMERGENCY GRANTS. 
          SO THE ARTISTS WHO BUILT AUSTIN'S MUSICAL MUSICAL LEGACY CONTINUE TO LIVE HERE WITH DIGNITY AND STABILITY. 
          I WILL NOTE WE HAVE SOME CRITERIA FOR WHAT AN AGING MUSICIAN HERE IS. 
          SO, UM, FOLKS HAVE TO SHOW SOME SORT OF FISCAL NEED. 
          WE HAVE A VERY SIMILAR BAROMETER AS HAM DOES. 
          UM, WE REQUEST THAT FOLKS ARE 55 OR OLDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR OUR GRANT PROGRAMS, UM, AND HAVE AT LEAST A 20 YEAR, UH, HISTORY OF MUSICIANSHIP, BASICALLY, UH, AND LIVE WITHIN A 70 MILE RADIUS OF AUSTIN. 
          IT USED TO JUST BE AUSTIN AND THEN PEOPLE KEPT MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY. 
          SO WE'VE GOTTEN BIGGER GEOGRAPHICALLY. 
          SO FOLKS ARE ALL OVER THE HILL COUNTRY. 
          UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 12 YEARS, UH, FOUNDED BY A GROUP OF MUSICIANS AND MUSIC INDUSTRY LEADERS. 
          UH, MANY OF Y'ALL KNOW MARSHA BALL, NANCY COLAN, SHE KING. 
          AND, AND THAT GROUP, UM, THEY CAME TOGETHER TO HELP ONE OF OUR OWN, THE MISS LALL WHITE. 
          UM, SHE'S A LEGENDARY BLUE SINGER. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GONE. 
          OKAY, ALL GOOD. 
          WHO WAS FACING SOME HOUSING SEC, UH, INSECURITY. 
          UM, THAT BEING SAID, THAT SPARKED REALLY A, A MISSION BUILT BY MUSICIANS FOR MUSICIANS. 
          UM, I WILL ALSO PLUG THAT MISS LAVELLE JUST TURNED 96 THIS WEEK. 
          UM, SO WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE BIRTHDAY PARTY COMPLETE WITH DOUBLE STUFFED OREOS TOMORROW. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU DON'T KNOW HER LEGACY, LOOK HER UP 'CAUSE SHE'S AN INSTITUTION. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, I DON'T, I'M JUST GONNA, I'M JUST GONNA KEEP GOING. 
          Y'ALL ARE GOOD. 
          IT'S FINE THERE. 
          LOOKS LIKE SHE GOT IT. 
          OH, WE GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S GO BACK ONE SIDE. 
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NO, LET'S JUST, DOES THIS WORK? NOPE, I GOT YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO NEXT. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE CRITERIA. 
          NEXT ONE. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS IS, OKAY, THIS IS PERFECT. 
          SO THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY ARE PART OF A BROADER NETWORK OF SUPPORT SYSTEMS IN AUSTIN AND THE NONPROFIT COMMUNITY. 
          UM, WHAT WE FOUND TO BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL FOR THE AGING MUSICIANS WE SERVE AND WHAT CURRENTLY ISN'T OFFERED BY ANY LOCAL MUSIC NONPROFIT HERE IS THE ONGOING HOUSING GRANT PROGRAM. 
          UM, SO IT'S KIND OF DIVIDED INTO TWO, TWO SECTIONS. 
          THERE'S THE ANNUAL GRANT PROGRAM, AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR RENT UTILITIES, WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO AGE WITH DIGNITY IN THEIR OWN HOME, OR IF THEY MOVE INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM STABLE THERE. 
          UM, THOSE ARE PAID ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          WE TYPICALLY DO THEM ON AN ANNUAL CYCLE. 
          UM, SO WE'LL GET TO THIS IN A MINUTE AS WELL, BUT THE ANNUAL CYCLE IS OPEN RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT. 
          EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL HAVE A VERY PACKED AGENDA, AND I'M TRYING TO TALK REALLY QUICKLY. 
          UM, OUR CURRENT GRANT CYCLE IS OPEN UNTIL JULY 11TH. 
          UM, WE KNOW THAT NOT ALL MUSICIANS AND FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, ARE GREAT WITH DEADLINES. 
          SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA EXTEND THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT JUST I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE THE REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT IS IF YOU ALL KNOW SOMEONE THAT HAS IN NEED THAT YOU WILL HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET AHOLD OF US SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM PLUGGED IN. 
          UH, WE ALSO DO EMERGENCY GRANTS. 
          THIS ONE STARTED DURING COVID, UM, BUT REALLY HAS GROWN TO BE SOMETHING REALLY ROBUST IN OUR SORT OF, UM, TOOLKIT. 
          REALLY. 
          UH, THIS IS MORE HELPING FOLKS GET THROUGH AN ACUTE TIME OF NEED. 
          UM, MAYBE THEY WERE INJURED AND THEY COULDN'T GIG FOR A MONTH, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THEY'RE BEHIND ON RENT, AND THAT IS A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND, USUALLY WITHIN A FEW DAYS. 
          UM, A VERY LOW BAROMETER FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE THE HELP THAT THEY NEED, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WHILE WE DON'T DIRECTLY ALIGN WITH HIM, THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE SOME ANONYMIZED NUMBERS SO THAT WE CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED COMING DOWN THE PIKE. 
          AND THIS IS THE REASON FOR OUR GROWTH TRAJECTORY AND WHY WE'VE RECENTLY HIRED STAFF, INCLUDING SOME SOCIAL WORKERS TO HELP OUR FOLKS. 
          UM, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE NEED IS GOING TO AT LEAST DOUBLE IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          UM, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT, IT MAKES US REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 35 FOLKS THAT WE'RE HELPING MONTHLY AND THE, AND THE 300 EMERGENCY GRANTS OR SO ARE, ARE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. 
          AND THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE NEED OUT THERE. 
          UM, SO WE ARE COMMITTED TO, UH, SORRY. 
          YEAH, UH, COMMITTED TO GROWING WITH THAT NEED. 
          UM, SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT GROWTH TRAJECTORY, HOPING TO SERVE ABOUT 150 FOLKS EACH YEAR. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, JUST A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO THE TEAM BECAUSE OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS SO INCREDIBLE. 
          UM, AND MOSTLY FOLKS IN THE MUSIC, EITHER MUSICIANS OR FOLKS, UH, WHO HAVE A LEGACY OF THEIR OWN OR HISTORY IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, WE ARE IN THE SWEET SPOT IN GROWTH WHERE MOST OF OUR FUNDS ARE USED ON PROGRAMS. UM, SO BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BUILT OUT A VERY LARGE STAFF AND DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OVERHEAD, ALMOST, YOU KNOW, 90 CENTS OF EVERY DOLLAR THAT COMES TO HOME AS A NONPROFIT GOES DIRECTLY INTO OUR PROGRAMS. NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, SHOUT OUT TO PARTNERS LIKE A TXM, UH, HAM AND FAMILY ELDER CARE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DECIDED TO DO WHEN WE'RE GROWING IS NOT JUST TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE, BUT TO FORMALIZE THESE PARTNERSHIPS SO THAT AS WE'RE SERVING OUR CLIENTS, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ENROLLED IN HAM, THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT FAMILY ELDER OR THAT, UH, YEAH, FAMILY ELDER CARE AND THAT A TXM PROVIDE AND THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO ALL OF OUR PARTNERS WHEN WE HAVE GRANT OPENINGS. 
          SO THAT YOU ALL, AGAIN, CAN HELP BE THE DELIVERY SYSTEM FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FIND THOSE FOLKS IN CRITICAL NEED. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THIS IS, YEAH, THIS IS THE, THE MEET, UH, JULY 11TH IS THE DUE DATE FOR THE, THE LARGE THAT THOSE ONGOING GRANTS, THE ONES DIRECTLY PAYABLE TO UTILITY PROVIDERS, MORTGAGE, YOU KNOW, LANDLORDS, ET CETERA. 
          THAT BEING SAID, WE WORK WITH ANNUAL GRANTS ON A ROLLING BASIS, AND IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WITH A CRITICAL ACUTE NEED, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO US AT ANY TIME AND WE'LL FIND A WAY TO HELP THEM. 
          UM, MY CONTACT ON HERE AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE CIRCULATING THIS SO THAT YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF US. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR, UH, PRESENTING HERE TODAY AND ALSO FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND THAT HOME DOING. 
          I, I'VE KNOWN OF THE ORGANIZATION FROM THE DAY IT STARTED, PROBABLY I USED TO GO TO THE, YOU KNOW, EARLY ON GARAGE SALES WHEN, UH, UM, MS. WHITE WAS BEING SUPPORTED. 
          UM, SO IT'S JUST BEEN AMAZING TO SEE THE ORGANIZATION SCALE, LIKE THE WAY IT HAS AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UH, SCALING TO HELP SUPPORTING MORE, UM, SENIOR ARTISTS. 
          AND, UM, UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 
          THIS IS WONDERFUL. 
          YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE SURE, AND I'M SURE I CAN SPEAK FOR OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT WILL, WILL, WILL, YOU KNOW, PUT THE WORD OUT ON THIS ONE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER SVA. 
          OKAY, COMMISSIONER. 
          OH, UM, THANK 
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YOU HANNAH, FOR COMING. 
          UH, HANNAH AND I HAD, UM, UH, HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS IN THE PAST. 
          UM, UH, I LOVED THE, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THAT, UM, THAT HER NONPROFIT AND OTHER NONPROFITS, UM, WERE ENGAGING IN, UH, WORKING TOGETHER. 
          UH, SHE HAD DROPPED ME A LINE ABOUT THIS GRANT AND I KNEW IT WAS A REALLY QUICK TURNAROUND, BUT, UM, SO GRATEFUL FOR HER TIME COMING DOWN HERE AND, UM, IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM OF INFORMING THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS OF, UM, SOME REALLY VITAL RESOURCES THAT AUSTIN, THIS AUSTIN NONPROFIT IS, UM, OFFERING. 
          AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN, UM, CONTINUE TO, UM, BE A ME A MECHANISM FOR COLLABORATION AND, UM, SHARING RESOURCES AND INFORMATION. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, DANA. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALL RIGHT, UH, MOVING BACK TO STAFF 
          [2. Formal endorsements of community programs and events briefing by Shelbi Mitchell,  Program Coordinator, Music & Entertainment Division.]
BRIEFINGS. 
          WE HAVE, UH, FORMAL ENDORSEMENTS OF COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND EVENTS BRIEFING BY SHELBY MITCHELL, PROGRAM COORDINATOR, MU, AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          JUST FIRST OFF, WANNA START BY SAYING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE THROUGH, UM, ONE OF OUR NEWEST MEMBERS OF OUR MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU, WHO, HUGO, FOR TAKING CARE OF US WITH OUR TECHNICAL SUPPORT. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IRONED OUT. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. 
          UM, I WANTED TO DIVE INTO FORMAL ENDORSEMENTS. 
          THIS WAS THE GENIUS IDEA OF OUR VICE CHAIR TO CONSIDER WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO GO ON BEHALF OF THEMSELVES IN FRONT OF COMMUNITY, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY VENDORS, UH, PATRONS, AND THEN ALSO PEOPLE DOING THE WORK IN CURATING AND ARTISTS IN BETWEEN. 
          I SPOKE TO OUR COLLECT OFFICE. 
          COME TO FIND OUT FORMAL ENDORSING IS NOT PROHIBITED WITHIN THE WORK THAT WE DO. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT REMEDIES THAT IS RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THERE'S NO IN BETWEEN. 
          AND SO AS WE CONSIDER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO REPRESENT OUR MUSIC COMMISSION, BEING MINDFUL THAT ONE PERSON ALONE CANNOT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR MUSIC COMMISSION AND COMMUNITY ON SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH EMAIL CONVERSATION, THAT IS PROHIBITED AS WELL. 
          SO CONSIDERING HOW WE WANNA SUPPORT COMMUNITY, IT'S EITHER A RECOMMENDATION OR JUST ME FOLLOWING UP WITH THE TOOLS TO SHARE SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR EMAIL YOUR FRIENDS OR YOUR NETWORK ON YOUR PERSONAL BEHALF, BUT NOT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          SO THAT WAS A LITTLE HEARTBREAKING CONSIDERING ALL THE PEOPLE WE LOVE TO SUPPORT. 
          AND IT WOULD JUST BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT EXTRA EDGE, BUT IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT TO COUNCIL. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SHELBY. 
          QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONERS OR COMMENTS? HELLO? SORRY. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER  . 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO THAT. 
          UM, I REALLY EVEN JUST APPRECIATE WHAT HOME WAS ABLE TO DO HERE AND JUST, UM, IN THIS PUBLIC SETTING, BE ABLE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THEIR PROGRAMS. UM, US ASK QUESTIONS FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, MEDIA OR, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC CAN REVIEW THE WORK. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THE COMMISSION IN THIS SETTING AND THE STAFF THAT'S INVOLVED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ADA. 
          UM, ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SHELBY. 
          MOVING ON. 
          UH, 
          [3. Live Music Fund collections briefing by Kim McCarson, Program Manager, Music &  Entertainment Division, Office of Arts, Culture, Music & Entertainment. ]
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS, BRIEFING BY KIM MCC, CARSON, PROGRAM MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, OFFICE OF ARTS, CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO THERE'S A PRESENTATION AND I BELIEVE IT'S TITLED ITEM TWO, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ITEM THREE. 
          OH, YOU'RE FILLING IT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE MY STICK TOO, IF YOU WANT THAT. 
          BUT THEY ALSO HAVE EVERYTHING, EVERYBODY HAS EVERYTHING THAT THEY USE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL THE, THE, UH, IT'S ONE SLIDE, BUT IT'S COMING UP HERE IN A MINUTE. 
          UM, SO THE HOTEL O OCCUPANCY TAX, I'M KIM MACARON, SORRY, KIM MACARON, UH, AND, UH, A PROGRAM MANAGER WITH MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. 
          AND, UM, I WORK WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS, UH, PARTICULAR, UM, PRESENTATION IS ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS. 
          AND WHAT WE DO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO 
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ARE NEW, IS THAT EVERY MONTH WE GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT THOSE COLLECTIONS ARE. 
          NOW GRANTED, THE UPDATE WE'RE GIVING IS A COUPLE OF MONTHS, OFTEN, UM, OLD, UH, BY THE TIME THE THE INCOME IS REPORTED AND THEN IT'S REPORTED THROUGH THE CITY UP TO US. 
          THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NEW NECESSARILY, BUT I'M GIVING YOU TODAY THE MAY UPDATE. 
          UM, AND, AND MAY IS, UM, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY FROM MAY, SO IT'S FROM PROBABLY APRIL. 
          AND THAT NUMBER IS 352,635. 
          IT'S UP SLIGHTLY BY ABOUT 17,000 FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR. 
          UH, WE HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DOWNWARD TREND IN OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX INCOME, VERY SLIGHT BUT DOWNWARD, EXCEPT THIS MONTH IS UP. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NICE. 
          AND THAT GIVES US A TOTAL OF 3,216,593. 
          OH, THERE WE GO. 
          SO IT'S THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN THERE. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER TWO COLUMNS ON THE LEFT REPRESENT THE PAST TWO FISCAL YEARS, JUST FOR COMPARISON'S SAKE. 
          SO LEMME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, KIM. 
          UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE TOPIC? COMMISSIONER SILVA? I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION OR A REQUEST ACTUALLY. 
          UM, I SEE YOU'VE GOT THE YEAR DATE NUMBER FOR FISCAL 25. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE JUST TO ALSO INCLUDE ON THE SLIDE, SORT OF THE PERCENTAGE COMPARISON TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR AT THIS SAME TIME? SHOULD BE LIKE THE RUNNING CHO THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          PERCENTAGE CHANGE FROM MAY LAST YEAR TO MAY THIS YEAR, THE FISCAL YEAR THROUGH MAY COMPARED TO THE FISCAL YEAR THROUGH MAY THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOT THE MONTH, BUT JUST MAYBE THE WHOLE YEAR TO DATE. 
          YEAH, THAT WAY WE HAVE A SENSE OF IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABOUT THE SAME AS WE WERE LAST YEAR OR IF WE'RE FALLING BEHIND OUR HEAD. 
          YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN ADD THAT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I'LL TRY TO SEE WHERE I CAN SQUEEZE THAT IN NEXT TIME. 
          YEAH, SEPARATE SLIDE OR THE SAME SLIDE? NO, NO, JUST ANU ON THE SAME, JUST A NUMBER TO THE SIDE. 
          YEAH, WOULD PROBABLY BE FINE. 
          YEAH, I'M SURE I CAN DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, KIM. 
          THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM 
          [4. FY23 Austin Live Music Fund final reports briefing by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager,  Music & Entertainment Division.]
IS, UH, FY 23, AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, FINAL REPORTS BRIEFING BY ERICA SHAMLEY, DIVISION MANAGER, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION. 
          JUST TO PROVIDE SOME QUICK CONTEXT ON THIS, UM, UH, IT WAS IN THE ARTS COMMISSION AND, UH, UH, THERE WAS AN ASK TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AROUND, UH, UH, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, FUNDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY THE REPORTS HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED, ET CETERA. 
          SO I JUST, UH, AND IT, IT, IT CAME TO LIGHT THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF APPLICANTS, UM, FROM MUSIC, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT WERE STILL, YOU KNOW, PENDING COMPLETION OR RATHER GRANTEES THAT HAD NOT SUBMITTED FINAL REPORTS. 
          SO WE JUST WANT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, WHAT THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE, WHAT MIGHT BE CAUSING THOSE ISSUES, WHAT ACTIONS ARE BEING TAKEN, AND WHAT SUPPORT IS BEING PROVIDED TO OUR COMMUNITY, UM, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE THESE, UH, REPORTS PROPERLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS ERICA. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, ERICA SHAMLEY, MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER AT ACME. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          OKAY, SO THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM WAS OUR PILOT PROGRAM, THE FIRST EVER GRANT PROGRAM OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. 
          AND WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER ON WHAT THOSE GUIDELINES WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, WHAT THOSE GRANT AMOUNTS SHOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND SO WE FOCUSED ON 10,000 AND $5,000 GRANTS. 
          UH, THE APPLICANTS CHOSE WHICH ONE THEY WANTED TO APPLY FOR, AND WE ENDED UP WITH 367 AWARDEES FOR SPECIFIC FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          KEEP IN MIND, WE WERE DIRECTED TO KIND OF DO AS, UM, OUR CULTURAL FUNDING PROGRAMS ARE, WHICH IS TO SCORE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          AND SO WE DID THAT, BUT, UH, AND WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, INTO THE PRESENTATION OF WHY THAT WAS A CHALLENGE. 
          UM, SO GRANT AGREEMENTS WERE EXECUTED IN OCTOBER AND DECEMBER, 2023. 
          AND, UH, TO THIS DATE, GRANT EXTENSIONS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO ENSURE THERE WAS A 12 MONTH TERM AND FOR COMPLIANT AWARDEES NEED MORE TIME FOR THOSE AWARDED SPECIFIC FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          SO IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW THAT SOMETIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, PLANS CHANGE, A VENUE CLOSES OR TALENT, UH, YOU KNOW, CANCELS. 
          AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE SCORED IT FOR SPECIFIC FUTURE PROJECTS WAS 
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SPECIFIC SCORING AROUND THE PIE, THE PRESERVATION, INNOVATION, COLLABORATION FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND IN ORDER TO, IF SOMETHING CANCELS AND YOU COULDN'T DO THAT EVENT, YOU HAD TO KIND OF CREATE THE EXACT SAME SCOPE AT A LATER DATE. 
          AND SO THAT'S REALLY DIFFICULT ON THE MUSIC SIDE, IF YOU ARE, LIKE, I ENVISION A, IT'S A PARK FESTIVAL, YOU KNOW, PRESENTING THIS MANY BLUES ARTISTS OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND IT FALLS THROUGH, MAYBE IT'S WEATHER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A CANCELLATION AND THEN YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RESCHEDULE IT. 
          UH, AND IT'S DIFFICULT. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY TO DO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, OF ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO THESE ARE THE CHALLENGES. 
          TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF GRANT AGREEMENTS, 367. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAD A PORTAL SYSTEM THAT YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WAS FLAWED. 
          UM, IT WAS, UH, BUILT IN-HOUSE AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT PRESENTED A LOT OF PROBLEMS, NOT ONLY FOR OUR APPLICANTS, BUT FOR OUR AWARDEES FOR REPORTING. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF BUGGY STUFF. 
          IN FACT, OUR REPORTING GOT SO BUGGY, UH, THAT THE REPORT TEMPLATES WERE CHANGING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, WE WOULD CHECK AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE REPORTS WOULD BE DIFFERENT. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU NEED VERY STATIC REPORTING IN ORDER TO HAVE ACCURATE REPORTING AND GRANT MAKING. 
          SO WE HAD TO SWITCH FROM THAT SYSTEM TO A GOOGLE FORM. 
          AND SO IMAGINE A VERY COMPLICATED SYSTEM THAT WAS ALREADY VERY, VERY BUGGY, AND THEN YOU HAD TO SWITCH MIDWAY FOR REPORTING INTO A GOOGLE FORM. 
          UM, WE ALSO, I WENT INTO AWARDING SPECIFIC FUTURE PROJECTS, HOW THAT'S PROBLEMATIC IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE HAD A BRAND NEW, UH, GROUP OF INEXPERIENCED AWARDEES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS, UM, OUR SISTER PROGRAMS HAD BEEN RUNNING PROGRAMS FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS FOR, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY USED TO GRANTS. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY WITH THE CITY, BUT ACROSS, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL GRANTS, FOUNDATION GRANTS, INDIVIDUAL GRANTS. 
          SO A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE GRANT MAKING PROCESS. 
          OUR COMMUNITY HAS NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE GRANT MAKING PROCESS. 
          IN FACT, COVID WAS THE VERY FIRST TIME ANY, UH, MUSIC PERSON WAS EVEN ELIGIBLE FOR A GRANT. 
          AND IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, WORLDWIDE EMERGENCY THAT ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN. 
          SO LIVE MUSIC FUND IS A FIRST OF ITS KIND PROGRAM, UH, THAT'S NOT BASED ON AN EMERGENCY, THAT IS A DEDICATED FUND FOR COMMERCIAL MUSIC. 
          AND SO THERE'S A BIG LIFT OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE UP TO SPEED OF WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT A GRANT IS, HOW TO DO COMPLIANCE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL CHALLENGES IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY. 
          I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THERE'S WONDERFUL SUPPORT. 
          A LOT OF THESE ARE NONPROFITS. 
          THEY HAVE A SUPPORT SYSTEM WITHIN THEIR NONPROFIT, WITH THEIR BOARD, WITH THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          THEY HAVE SEVERAL NONPROFITS THEY CAN REACH OUT TO. 
          THERE'S SOME ISSUES FOR TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR, YOU KNOW, REPORTING SUPPORT. 
          AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE DO HAVE WONDERFUL SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS HAM AND SIMS AND A TX MUSICIANS AND LOTS OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NEW, YOU KNOW, BUT STILL, WE ARE ALL LEARNING HOW TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER IN SUCH A WAY THAT OTHER, YOU KNOW, ON THE ARTS AND CULTURE SIDE, YOU HAVE HUNDREDS, LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF, OF FOUNDATIONAL SUPPORT THAT HAD EVOLVED OVER TIME. 
          AND SO, AND I'M GONNA BRING KIM UP A LITTLE BIT HERE TO JUST TALK ABOUT SOME PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS SHE'S HAD JUST TO TALK ABOUT NOT ONLY THE FACT THAT IT WAS SUCH A LARGE NUMBER OF GRANT AWARDEES, WE KIND OF PUT THEM IN A SITUATION WITH A VERY DIFFICULT TOOL THAT KEPT HAVING, THAT MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT WITH THE REPORTING. 
          AND WE, YOU KNOW, THESE SPECIFIC FEATURE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE A COOKIE CUTTER OF AN ARTS AND CULTURE PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          THINGS HAPPEN QUICKLY. 
          WE NEED TO PIVOT. 
          TIME IS MONEY, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTA PIVOT. 
          THE SHOW MUST GO ON AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT HOW WE FIX A LOT OF THIS STUFF FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 PROGRAM. 
          BUT I WANTED KIM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT SHE'S HEARING FROM OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO KIM, MCC CARSON, AGAIN, PROGRAM MANAGER. 
          AND, AND I MENTIONED BEFORE, I WORK WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. 
          IN FACT, I'M THE PERSON, I'M THE STAFF MEMBER WHO GOES THROUGH ALL OF THE REPORTS. 
          SO ANY OF THE REPORTS, WHETHER THEY'RE PROGRESS REPORTS OR FINAL REPORTS, I'M THE PERSON WHO REVIEWS THOSE. 
          AND ANYTIME SOMEBODY GETS STUCK AND CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET A REPORT IN, HAS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW TO FILL IT OUT, WHAT TO DO, WHERE TO GO, I'M THEIR CONTACT PERSON TO GET THEM THROUGH GETTING THROUGH THAT REPORT. 
          UM, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED AS I'VE WORKED WITH MANY, MANY MUSICIANS DOING A GRANT FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          UM, THE ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STANDS OUT TO ME IS THAT, AS ERICA MENTIONED, 
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A LOT OF GRANTS ARE, YOU KNOW, OFTEN FOR ORGANIZATIONS OR NONPROFITS WHO HAVE STAFF TO HANDLE THINGS, TO DO REPORTS, TO FILL THINGS OUT, TO ASK QUESTIONS. 
          THESE ARE MUSICIANS WHO ARE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY MAY BE MANAGING A BAND AND THEY MAY BE FOR THE FIRST TIME PUTTING TOGETHER AN EVENT THAT MAY BE DOING THEIR FIRST EVER RECORDING, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF. 
          AND WHEN THEY GET A LIFE CHALLENGE THAT SUDDENLY OCCURS, AND IT COULD BE A DEATH IN THE FAMILY, IT COULD BE A DEATH OF A BAND MEMBER, IT COULD BE THAT SOMEBODY TOOK THE MONEY AND RAN. 
          IT COULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SOME OTHER FAMILY ISSUES OR LOST A JOB. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IS ONE OR TWO OF THESE KINDS OF, OF LIFE EVENTS TAKES PLACE AND THEY DON'T HAVE A, A BACKUP SYSTEM. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE A SUPPORT GROUP AND THEY DON'T HAVE A STAFF TO COME HANDLE IT. 
          AND, UM, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO WORK ON THIS GRANT. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM HAVE FOUND ME, AND I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO HOLD THEIR HAND AND WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS AND DO AS MUCH AS I CAN TO GET THEM THROUGH IT. 
          THAT WAS ESPECIALLY CONFUSING WITH THE 2023 GRANT BECAUSE WE HAD TO PIVOT FROM THE PORTAL SYSTEM, WHICH WAS WASN'T REALLY WORKABLE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT, THAT CAUSED SOME CONFUSION. 
          SOME PEOPLE THOUGH, I DID ALSO LEARN A SECOND THING, AND THAT IS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF, OF, UM, SORT OF LACK OF FAMILIARITY WITH COMPUTERS, WITH COMPUTER PROGRAMS, WITH EXCEL, WITH BUDGETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH A LOT OF THE MUSICIANS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH. 
          AND, UM, AGAIN, I AM ALWAYS HAPPY TO SHOW SOMEONE HOW TO DOWNLOAD A FILE, HOW TO GET EXCEL, YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SAVE IN IT, YOU KNOW WHERE TO PUT THAT. 
          UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT I'VE, UH, HELPED PEOPLE WITH FIGURING THINGS OUT THAT ARE KIND OF KIND. 
          SOME OF THEM ARE BASIC COMPUTER, SOME OF THEM ARE, YOU KNOW, OTHER TECH ISSUES. 
          I'M NOT A TECH PERSON, BUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THOSE THINGS. 
          AND, UM, SO THERE HAVE BEEN, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          AND IF, IF ANYONE WHO IS WORKING ON A GRANT, UH, RIGHT NOW AND NEEDS HELP, PLEASE DO REACH OUT TO ME AND LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP YOU GET THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO HELP PEOPLE GET THROUGH IT, GET TO THE END OF IT, ANSWER QUESTIONS, UM, NOT TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE ANYTHING AWAY, NOT TO END YOUR GRANT, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR GRANT. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, UM, I HAD ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION THAT I FOUND OUT IN ALL OF THIS. 
          OH, WELL JUST KEEP IN MIND TOO THAT THERE ARE THICK 367 TIMES TWO REPORTS. 
          SO 367 TIMES TWO AND CSAP IS ANOTHER 65, 64 GRANTS LIVE MUSIC FUND 24 COMING THROUGH. 
          AND THERE'S A ONE STAFF DOING THE REPORTS. 
          UM, SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT DOES PRESENT IN IT ON ITSELF A BIG CHALLENGE WHEN YOU'VE GOT THAT MANY, UH, YOU KNOW, GRANTS. 
          IT, IT TAKES AS LONG TO REVIEW, UH, ONE GRANT WHEN THERE'S A POOL OF 300 APPLICANTS AS IT DOES TO REVIEW A REPORT FROM, YOU KNOW, A A A POOL OF 64 APPLICANTS. 
          SO, UM, AND SOME WILL NEED MORE HELP THAN OTHERS ANYWAY. 
          UM, SO THERE IS A, THERE IS A LACK OF SUPPORT OUT THERE FOR OUR MUSICIANS. 
          UM, THEY HAVEN'T HAD EXPERIENCE WITH GRANTS, MOST OF THEM, ALMOST ALL OF THE ONES THAT I'VE WORKED WITH. 
          AND, UM, SO THERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR HAVING SOME KIND OF HELP THERE FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I JUST WANNA THANK KIM WIT FOR ALL OF OUR ONE-ON-ONE SUPPORT OF THOSE APPLICANTS AND AWARDEES. 
          IT WAS A HUGE LIFT BECAUSE OF KIND OF OUR SELF-IMPOSED ISSUES WITH THE PORTAL SYSTEM THAT WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAMS ON IN 2023. 
          AND THE REPORTING THROUGH THAT, HAVING TO PIVOT TO GOOGLE FORMS. SOMETIMES PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE A GMAIL ADDRESS. 
          I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL THIS IS HOW YOU SET UP GMAIL IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO GOOGLE FORMS BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAD EXCEL. 
          AT LEAST IT WAS FREE. 
          YOU JUST HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING A GMAIL ACCOUNT. 
          SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE ONE-ON-ONE THAT YOU DID WITH EACH AND EVERY OF OUR AWARDEES. 
          IT WAS DIFFICULT, BUT WE LEARNED A LOT, UH, FOR OUR NEXT ROUND OF PROGRAMS. ALRIGHT, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO OF THE FY 23 LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE STATS. 
          SO WE HAD FOUR AWARDEES FORFEIT BEFORE RECEIVING ANY FUNDS. 
          THEY JUST DECIDED AGAINST IT. 
          WE HAD ONE AWARDEE THAT DID IT IN A INTERIM REPORT. 
          EV EVIDENCING THE FIRST PAYMENT, THE FIRST 50%, UH, BUT PAID 
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BACK THE SECOND PAYMENT, WHICH WAS 40% AND DID NEVER RECEIVE THE THIRD PAYMENT OF 10% BECAUSE IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH. 
          COULD JUST, COULDN'T DO IT. 
          SO WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE FOR THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL REPORT. 
          WE HAVE THE INTERIM REPORT. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE 56 REMAINING NON-COMPLIANT AWARDEES THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING TOWARDS COMMUNICATION. 
          AND I'LL, THE NEXT SLIDE WILL GO INTO THE DIFFERENT STEPS OF HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING. 
          UM, OF THOSE 56, WE HAVE 33 THAT SUBMITTED AN INTERIM REPORT, WHICH MEANS THEY, ER, THEY EVIDENCE THE F THE FIRST 50% THAT THEY RECEIVED UPON THEIR AGREEMENT GETTING SIGNED, BUT WE STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEIR FINAL REPORT ON HOW THEY SPENT THE REST OF THE FUNDS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE 20 SUBMIT, UH, 23 THAT SUBMITTED NO INTERIM REPORT AND OBVIOUSLY NO FINAL REPORT OUT OF THE WHOLE 376. 
          SO KIM IS STILL WORKING. 
          AND I MEAN, WE HAVE DONE WELL, WE'LL, WE JUST DID A BUNCH OF TEXTS. 
          I'M GONNA GO INTO THE NEXT SLIDE OF WHAT OUR STEPS ARE. 
          SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          STEP ONE. 
          SO THESE ARE THE PROCESSES WE HAVE IN PLACE. 
          WE'RE STILL WITHIN THIS PROCESS FOR FY 23. 
          THE FIRST STEP WILL BE A FIRST NOTICE SENT VIA EMAIL TO THE WARDEE WHO WAS AT LEAST 15 BUSINESS DAYS LATE. 
          BUT WE'RE FLEXIBLE, YOU KNOW, WE GIVE THEM MORE TIME. 
          UH, KIM HAS BEEN, HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE PHONE, ON EMAIL, AND NOW WITH TEXTING TO GET AHOLD OF FOLKS. 
          BUT THEY'VE ALL RECEIVED THESE STEPS. 
          SO THE FIRST STEP NOTICE VIA EMAIL, SECOND NOTICE IS SENT CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE AWARDEE ON WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE. 
          UM, THEY MUST RESPOND IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME IN ORDER TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH KIM IN ORDER TO EXTEND, YOU KNOW, THE EXTENSION FOR THE TERM OR WHATEVER IT IS THEY NEED, WHATEVER SHE CAN DO TO HELP THEM GET THOSE REPORTS IN. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD STEP IS A TERMINATION NOTICE SENT BY CERTIFIED MAIL TO THE AWARDEE. 
          AND A COPY OF THAT IS SENT TO THE DIRECTOR AS WELL. 
          AND SO THIS IS WHEN YOU GET ON THE DELINQUENT LIST, YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY MORE CITY FUNDS IF YOU'VE, IF WE'VE GONE THROUGH THESE THREE STEPS AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU. 
          SO FOR FY 23, THESE WERE 12 YEAR, UH, UH, MONTH, THESE WERE 12 MONTH TERMS. BUT BECAUSE OF THE HAS TO BE THESE FUTURE EVENTS, WE DEFINITELY DID LOTS OF, UH, GRANT AGREEMENT, UM, CHANGES IN ORDER FOR THE SCOPE TO FIT OR EXTENSIONS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ACCOMPLISH THE SCOPE THAT WAS SCORED UPON. 
          AND, UM, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING TO THIS DAY WE'RE WHITTLING THIS NUMBER DOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU SAW OF THE 56, WE'RE WHITTLING THAT NUMBER EVERY DAY, UH, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE REASONS OF WHY WE HAVE THAT NUMBER. 
          UM, IT'S BEEN A LEARNING EXPERIENCE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          BUT WE'D MADE CHANGES FOR FISCAL YEAR 24. 
          LOTS OF CHANGES WE KNEW THAT WE HAD TO DO IN ORDER TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN, FOR INSTANCE. 
          UM, AND I'LL GO INTO WHERE WE ARE. 
          THESE ARE TWO YEAR PROGRAMS AND HERE WE ARE JUST YEAR ONE AND WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE GREAT COMPLIANCE. 
          WE'RE ALMOST COMPLETELY DONE. 
          NOT ONLY DID WE DO LARGER GRANTS, UH, SO WE HAD LESS AWARDEES. 
          UH, GREG HAS BEEN WORKING ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE AWARDEES ON HOW TO MOST, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW TO SPEND THE FUNDS AND FROM A MUSIC INDUSTRY, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE SO THAT THE FUNDS ARE BEST SPENT FOR SUCCESS. 
          UH, WE ALSO, UH, DID TWO YEAR TERMS FOR THE LARGER GRANTS. 
          UM, ANYONE WHO DOES GET THOSE TWO YEAR GRANTS, THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR TWO YEARS IN ORDER TO APPLY AGAIN. 
          SO THE NEXT FUNDING CYCLE, WHICH IS THE VERY NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE. 
          SO THAT KEPT OUR GRANT NUMBER DOWN OF AWARDEES THAT WE COULD WORK VERY HOLISTICALLY WITH ONE-ON-ONE SO THAT THEY HAD THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THEY NEEDED AND THE SUPPORT THEY NEEDED TO BEST SPEND THOSE FUNDS. 
          AND WE'VE HAD, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 100 UH, PERCENT COMPLIANCE HERE, UH, BEFORE THE TWO YEAR TERM IS UP. 
          I CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING. 
          'CAUSE WE LEARNED A LOT. 
          BIGGEST THING WE DO NOT SCORE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS ANYMORE. 
          UM, AND WE SCORE FOR OTHER THINGS, THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST, UH, WITH NOW WHAT WE SCORE FOR. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SPEND THE FUNDS ON ANY FUTURE ACTIVITY THAT FITS THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, THAT FITS WITH WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR CAREER, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU NEED. 
          AGAIN, GREG AND KIM HERE TO TALK TO FOLKS TO HELP THEM ALONG EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. 
          THIS HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE. 
          WE'VE HAD WONDERFUL RESPONSES AND THROUGH THE CREATIVE RESET PROCESS OF HAVING ALL OF THESE MEETINGS AND ADDITIONAL KIND OF ONE-ON-ONES AND LISTENING SESSIONS, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO LOTS OF OUR AWARDEES AND THEY'RE JUST HAD REALLY GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT BOTH GREG AND KIM AND THE SUPPORT THEY'VE RECEIVED, WHICH IS HEARTENING AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA HEAR. 
          UM, SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY ON OUR CURRENT PROGRAM AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT EVEN BETTER FOR FY 25 WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOON WE WILL SHARE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? 
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THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ERICA. 
          COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER? PRICE? YES. 
          TESTING. 
          ALRIGHT, COOL. 
          UM, FIRST QUESTION. 
          YOU HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THERE BEING NO SUCH THING AS A GRANT. 
          IS THAT COMING FROM THE CITY? BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAY, AND I THINK THEY SWITCHED NAMES, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL IN EXISTENCE, BUT IT WAS CALLED BLACK FRAT, I BELIEVE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT MY BROTHER-IN-LAW USED TO PLAY FOR CLIA P MUSICALS AND HE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THEM WAY BACK IN THE DAY. 
          SO WHAT WOULD THAT BE CLASSIFIED AS? THAT'S A PRIVATE GRANT FROM A PRIVATE FOUNDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT A CITY GRANT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT IS DEFINITELY, UM, IT'S INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, DONORS FOCUSED AND SO IT'S A DIFFERENT THING THAN SAY, AN INSTITUTIONAL GRANT. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WHAT IS THE, SO YOU SAID THAT THE CONSEQUENCE FOR ANY APPLICANT THAT DID NOT FULFILL THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND JUST GOT THE FIRST PAYMENT AND THEN WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO SUBMIT A REPORT, THE CONSEQUENCES, THEY'RE JUST NOT LONGER, UH, ELIGIBLE FOR ANY FUNDING. 
          CORRECT. 
          THERE'S NO, LIKE YOU GO INTO COLLECTIONS OR ANYTHING. 
          SO I, MY MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE WHAT IS THAT TO STOP SOMEBODY FROM SAYING, OKAY, I'M GONNA JUST GET MY HALF PAYMENT AND THAT'S GOOD FOR ME TO TAKE IT AND RUN? WELL, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT WITH OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM AND WITH LAW. 
          WE DISCUSSED THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN THIS, YOU KNOW, AS WHAT WOULD WE DO IF SOMEONE WASN'T ABLE TO FULFILL THE OBLIGATIONS? AND SO THE CITY WANTS TO SUPPORT, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANTS, IS TO HELP SUPPORT MUSICIANS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHAT WE WANNA DO AS FAR AS LIKE CLAWING BACK. 
          THAT'S POSSIBLE. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO DISCUSS AND TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS OF ALL OF US OF IS THAT THE RIGHT MOVE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET COMPLIANCE AND WE'RE NOT AT THE END OF THE ROAD YET OF GETTING COMPLIANCE. 
          AND SO KIM IS TALKING TO FOLKS EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          WE JUST DID A BIG TEXT PUSH. 
          WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, MAYBE PEOPLE AREN'T CHECKING THEIR EMAIL OR, YOU KNOW, NO ONE ACTUALLY ANSWERS THEIR PHONE ANYMORE, BUT TEXTING, WE, SHE TEXTED ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE PERSON AND GOT SOME GREAT RESPONSES AND STILL IS. 
          SO WE ARE STILL WORKING TOWARDS COMPLIANCE. 
          THE QUESTION OF WHAT DO WE DO IF WE DON'T GET IT? WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS A COMMISSION, AS A BODY OF WHAT IS THE RIGHT, WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING AS A CITY TO CLAW THAT BACK. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE'VE LEARNED LOTS OF WONDERFUL LESSONS SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE PROGRAM. 
          SO WE DON'T SEE THAT LEVEL OF NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S MY GOAL IS TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          BUT FOR THESE PARTICULAR PILOT AWARDEES, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? UM, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT THAN ANYTHING. 
          UM, I THINK I REALLY WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK TO WHY I WAS SO HAPPY TO BE ASKED TO BE IN THE MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          AND IT'S BECAUSE OF STUFF LIKE THIS AND IT'S HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT THIS IS HAPPENING. 
          AND IT'S SO OFTEN EASY TO BE SO CRITICAL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSEST TO YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSE TO YOU. 
          UM, AND THERE WOULD BE NO GRANT WITH ALL OF THIS AWESOME WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND IT'S SO AMAZING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          UM, AND OUR JOB AS A MUSIC MISSION IS TO BE CRITICAL OF WHAT WE'RE ALL DOING AND TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A WORLD WHERE THESE CRITICISMS ARE NOT REALLY TAX ON WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO COLLECTIVELY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE SAME GOAL. 
          UM, AND IT'S, MY COMMENT WAS MOSTLY I THANK YOU FOR, FOR WHAT YOU DO AND HOW HARD YOU WORK AND HOW MUCH YOU GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I'M ONLY HERE BECAUSE I RESPECT WHAT YOU GUYS DO AND I CAN'T WAIT TO DO MORE AND BE A, KEEP BEING A PART OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          IT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR. 
          AND I JUST HAVE TO REALLY CREDIT THIS GROUP RIGHT HERE, REALLY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S INSANE WORK. 
          SO THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER ENGLAND NEXT, UH, TO KIND OF EXPOUND ON THAT, THAT'S A LOT TO DEAL WITH AND, UH, VERY MUCH SO, BUT WOW, THAT'S A LOT. 
          UM, I'M OBVIOUSLY STEPPING IN. 
          IT'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. 
          I'M HERE AT THE COMMISSION, SO I'VE JUST BEEN KIND OF TAKING MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE AND JUST TRYING TO LISTEN TO, TO WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE I FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WHAT MY EXPERTISE IS AND, UH, THE WORK THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS DONE MUCH MORE PROFOUNDLY, UH, IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAN I'M JUST NOW REALLY BECOMING A PART OF. 
          UM, AND SO IN THAT SAME WAY, UH, UH, BEFORE I 
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I MAKE ANY COMMENTS, I APOLOGIZE AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE MISSED AS I CONTINUE TO EDUCATE MYSELF AND, AND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE COMPLIANCE, UH, ISSUE THAT'S WORKING FROM THE STEPS THAT YOU PUT IN THAT YOU'VE LEARNED, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT LOOKS, THE PROJECTIONS FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE LOOKS FANTASTIC FOR THAT. 
          MY MAIN QUESTION THOUGH IS, UH, THE ASSETS. 
          SO ONCE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A A MUSIC VENUE, UH, A 5 0 1 C3, AN INDIVIDUAL ARTIST, AND THE SCALE OF SUPPORT THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT OTHER TOOLS ARE WE OFFERING, UH, FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? ASIDE FROM THIS ONE LEVEL OF HUMAN BEING THAT ANSWERS ALL OR THREE LEVERAGING MACHINES THAT AGE ALL THESE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, UM, NOT JUST HOW TO NAVIGATE WITH COMPLIANCE FOR REPORTING, BUT ALSO WHAT DOES THAT INCOME LOOK LIKE FOR INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS WITH THEIR TAXES? FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO MUSICIANS, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE VERY SCARED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE, AND IN WHICH CASE THEY KIND OF GET INTO A FIGHT OR FLIGHT MENTALITY OR A SURVIVOR MENTALITY. 
          AND SO I, I GUESS AS SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER PERSONALLY OR WITHIN AN ENTITY THAT I CAME INTO AFTER THEY RECEIVED A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I HAVEN'T REALLY NAVIGATED WHAT THOSE TOOLS DON'T LOOK LIKE. 
          BUT FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM EVERYONE IS THAT THERE COULD BE A LOT MORE SUPPORT AND NOT JUST HOW TO GET IT, BUT HOW TO EFFECTIVELY DO THAT. 
          NOT JUST FROM COMPLIANCE, BUT JUST WITHIN THEIR PERSONAL LIVES AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY HAS CHANGED ASIDE FROM Y'ALL JUST SENDING OUT TEXTS AND ANSWERING A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHERE GREG COMES IN. 
          AND SO BOTH GREG AND KIM, DEPENDING IF IT'S A VENUE OR IF IT'S A MUSICIAN OR A PROMOTER, UH, THEY DO ONE-ON-ONES WITH THE AWARDEES ON BEST PRACTICES FOR SPENDING THE FUNDS. 
          AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAINING AND SUPPORT. 
          BEEN TALKING WITH DIRECTOR MEANS AND WITH MORGAN MESSICK, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, ABOUT A MORE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE BEYOND, SAY THE SMALL BUSINESS DIVISION OR OTHER RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A RESOURCE LIBRARY, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASPIRE TO DO IN 2023, BUT WE HAD JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON WITH THE PORTAL SYSTEM. 
          SO WHAT WE WILL BE DOING FOR THE NEXT ROUND AND FOR OUR CURRENT, UH, AWARDEES AND ANYBODY ELSE, THIS WILL BE FREE AND OPEN TO ANYONE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN AWARDEE AS A RESOURCE LIBRARY OF, UH, CONTRACTS, ARTIST AGREEMENTS, VENUE AGREEMENTS, UM, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE BEST PRACTICES WITHIN OUR INDUSTRY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KNOW THEIR RIGHTS, KNOW HOW THIS WORKS, WHAT ARE THE TAX LIABILITIES. 
          WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOU ADVICE AROUND TAXES BECAUSE YOU SHOULD BE A CONSULTING A TAX PROFESSIONAL. 
          AND SO THAT IS MENTIONED IN THE MATERIALS FOR APPLICATIONS FOR AWARDEES, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN READ OVER THAT AND JUST KIND OF GLOSS OVER. 
          AND SO WE HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT MATT HAS BEEN A PART OF, MATT, MATTHEW SCHMIDT, WHO IS OUR, UM, INTERIM CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION MANAGER OF PROVIDING HOURLY SUPPORT WITH LEGAL LIKE LAWYERS THROUGH ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT HE ADMINISTERS OF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING SOME FUNDS TOWARDS SOME HOURLY SUPPORT FROM A LAWYER OR FROM A PROFESSIONAL LIKE THAT WHERE THEY JUST DRAW DOWN HOURS. 
          WE ACTUALLY DID THAT DURING COVID AS PART OF THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION FUND. 
          WE HAD, WE WORKED WITH TALA AND WE PAID THE LAWYERS TO DO THAT. 
          WERE SPECIFIC TO THE NEEDS THAT THEY NEEDED. 
          AND SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT OTHER FUNDS TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT, PROFESSIONAL SUPPORT, UH, AS WELL AS A LIBRARY OF JUST STUFF BECAUSE YOU CAN GET AN AGREEMENT OR A VENUE AGREEMENT, STILL LOOK AT IT AND IT LOOKS LIKE SWISS CHEESE, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED SOMEONE TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT, EXPLAIN IT AND EXPLAIN WHY IT'S WRITTEN THAT WAY. 
          WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, FOR AN ARTIST AGREEMENT OR FOR ANYTHING WHEN YOU'RE GOING OUT AND GETTING BACK LINE OR YOU'RE RENTING SOMETHING OR YOU'RE RENTING A VENUE OR YOU'RE DOING X, Y, Z, WE, YOU KNOW, LEARN FROM OUR EXPERIENCE, LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE, 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE FROM GREG, BUT ALSO, UM, WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING MORE LIKE ACCOUNTANTS, LAWYERS FOR THE ARTS, TALL AS WONDERFUL. 
          UH, PROVIDING THAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT TO REALLY GIVE THAT SUPPORT TO PEOPLE BECAUSE IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE PERSONAL ISSUES THAT CAN COME UP THAT ARE JUST OVERWHELMING. 
          A FIN A FINANCIAL CRISIS CAN JUST SEND SOMEONE OVER THE EDGE. 
          AND THAT HAPPENS VERY OFTEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHEN WE'RE ALREADY ON THE EDGE IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY AND COST OF LIVING AND, AND WE'RE ARTISTS, WE'RE DOING IT 'CAUSE WE LOVE IT AND WE HAVE TO DO IT. 
          AND SO THAT MAKES FOR, YOU KNOW, CAN BE A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. 
          SO YES, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. 
          ARE THERE ANY OUTSIDE, UM, MORE OF A BROADER SPECTRUM OF, UH, CONSULTANTS AND SORT OF ADVOCATES THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO WHAT THE, 
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THE GRANT AWARDEES ARE TRYING TO DO? I MEAN, A RESOURCE ELABORATE. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          YOU SAID THAT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF NAVIGATE, UH, FOR WHAT IT IS. 
          UM, WE DO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME FUNDING ABOUT $40,000 THAT WE'VE PUT ASIDE FOR, UM, AWARDEES TO TAP INTO FOR WHATEVER, IT'S A MUSIC CERTIFICATE AND WE HAVE A COUPLE VENDORS IN PLACE FOR THAT OR OTHER THINGS LIKE MAYBE THERE'S SOME, UH, CLASSES AT A CC WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A FULL-TIME STUDENT, BUT YOU WANNA TAKE SOME CLASSES. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY PER OF FOR THE 2024, YOU KNOW, AWARDEE TO BE ABLE TO DRAW THAT DOWN. 
          AND SO WE'VE UH, YOU KNOW, GREG'S BEEN WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, UH, TO KIND OF GET THAT ALL LIVE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE ACME FORMED RIGHT AS THAT WAS ABOUT TO GO LIVE. 
          AND SO WE'VE JUST BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO KIND OF INTEGRATE ALL OF THAT IN. 
          AND SO WE WILL, AND THAT THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR GRANT AGREEMENT, IT DOESN'T MATTER, UH, IF YOU WERE A 2024 AWARD, EITHER SOME FUND FUNDING ESTABLISHED THERE AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD RESOURCES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TOO. 
          SO PLEASE, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE SHARE THAT WITH US. 
          THAT'S PART OF WHAT OUR THIRD PARTY DOES WITH THE LONG CENTER IS TO GET, UH, INDUSTRY STANDARD, YOU KNOW, SUBCONTRACTORS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WANTED FROM OUR THIRD PARTY WAS, UH, INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO BRING ON THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO HELP US OUT. 
          AND SO THAT'S ONCE WE KIND OF GET THROUGH THE RESET AND WE GET TOWARDS THE, THE NEXT APPLICATION, WE WILL FORMALIZE ALL OF THAT, UH, NOT ONLY FOR OUR 24 AWARDEES, BUT FOR OUR NEXT GROUP OF PEOPLE. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE AN UPDATE. 
          I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE 1,000,001 DIFFERENT THINGS TO DO AND KNOCK OUT AND GET DONE, PLUS THE SCRUTINY, PLUS GETTING EVERYTHING READY FOR THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I WOULD LOVE, UH, TO FORMALLY ASK FOR AN UPDATE ON WHAT THOSE RESOURCES LOOK LIKE MM-HMM . 
          MOSTLY SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO OPERATES A MUSIC VENUE WHERE I GET QUESTIONS EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH 126 DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING ACTS THAT WE DO A WEEK IN MM-HMM . 
          UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TO POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR, FOR HOW TO GET TO THOSE RESOURCES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK WE DO HAVE A SHAREPOINT EXTERNAL SITE FOR OUR AWARDEES THAT HAVE ALL THE MILES TRAINING, THE MILES PARTNERSHIP. 
          THAT'S ALL OF OUR MARKETING TRAINING. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO YEARS WORTH OF TRAINING NOW THAT THE ANYONE CAN TAKE THAT ANY OF THE AWARDEES CAN TAKE. 
          AND SO MY GOAL IS TO BE LIKE, THAT SHOULDN'T JUST BE FOR AWARDEES. 
          THEY SHOULD HAVE LIKE, YES, YOU KNOW, THAT ACCESS TO THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN IS THAT ALL LIVE THE, WHAT WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE, GREG, I KNOW YOU WERE WORKING, UH, YOU WANT ME TO YEAH, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE IT, UH, AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. 
          HELLO, UH, GREG GONZALEZ, PROGRAM MANAGER ONE, UH, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, OFFICE OF ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. 
          UH, SO YEAH, I'VE BEEN TASKED WITH WORKING ON THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES SPECIFICALLY TO THE GRANT AWARDEES. 
          SO, UH, I CREATED A ONE SHEET AND WORKING WITH OUR COMMS TEAM, I REACHED OUT TO BOTH THE 2023 AND 2024 AWARDEES. 
          AND, UH, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THINGS THAT THE CITY ALREADY OFFERS THAT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR. 
          FOR INSTANCE, THE ARTIST CAREER TRAINING, WHICH IS OFFERED THROUGH OUR SMALL BUSINESS DIVISION. 
          UH, ADDITIONALLY THERE'S A, UH, I WAS ABLE TO SECURE A DISCOUNTED ACADEMIC RATE FOR CHART METRIC. 
          SO ANYBODY WHO'S GOT THESE, UH, AWARDS CAN SIGN UP FOR CHART METRIC. 
          AND SINCE THE SUBSCRIPTION, THAT'S AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BUYING SOMETHING, THEY'RE JUST SUBSCRIBING TO IT. 
          CHART METRIC, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IS LIKE THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, UH, WAY OF TRACKING YOUR DIGITAL IMPACT BASICALLY ACROSS ALL THE PLATFORMS. IT AGGREGATES THEM AND IT SHOWS YOU KIND OF THE TRENDS, THE HOTSPOTS, WHAT OTHER BANDS ARE DOING. 
          YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY FOLLOWERS THEY HAVE, WHAT KIND OF POSTINGS THEY DO, BANDS THAT ARE LIKE YOU, WHAT YOUR FOLLOWERS DEMOGRAPHICS LOOK LIKE. 
          IT'S BASICALLY LIKE THE DATA, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, LIKE THE DATA ANALYSIS PLATFORM THAT'S USED BY THE MAJOR LABELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I LEARNED ABOUT IT WHEN I WAS IN GRADUATE SCHOOL STUDYING MARKETING FOR, FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OFFER. 
          ANOTHER ONE IS, UH, FOR THE STUDENTS, WHICH IS A SIX WEEK CERTIFICATE PROGRAM THROUGH ONE OF, UH, OUR THIRD PARTY VENDORS, UM, WHICH OFFERS MUSIC CAREER TRAINING. 
          UH, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME AND I DON'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT IT, BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, PRESENTED BY, UH, PEOPLE WHO WORK WITHIN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SHOWING THE BEST PRACTICES, EXPLAINING KIND 
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OF THE DIFFERENT ROLES OF PEOPLE ON YOUR TEAM. 
          AND THAT'S FULLY PAID FOR, FOR, UH, AWARDEES OF THE 24 GRANT. 
          SO THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE THAT FOR FREE. 
          IT COMES WITH A CERTIFICATE, BUT THEY ALSO CAN PAY IF THEY WANT FOR ONE-ON-ONE COACHING. 
          UH, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE WAS THERE? I DON'T ALL OUR SMALL BUSINESS CLASSES, OF COURSE. 
          ALL THE SMALL BUSINESS CLASSES. 
          YES. 
          UH, THERE'S ALSO THE A AND R FOUNDATION, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION HERE IN TOWN, WHICH SERVES THE MUSIC COMMUNITY. 
          THEY DO, UH, I GUESS THEY CALL IT LIKE FINANCIAL LITERACY TRAINING. 
          SO THAT'S MORE THE FINANCIAL PIECE OF THINGS LIKE HOW TO SET UP YOUR LLC, HOW TO DO YOUR TAXES, PROPER BOOKKEEPING, HOW TO, UH, TRACK YOUR EXPENSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN USE THAT TO CREATE A, BASICALLY LIKE A TRACK RECORD OF HOW YOU HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS SO THAT THEN LATER YOU COULD GO GET CREDIT, UH, ACQUIRE LOANS FROM A BANK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR BUSINESS. 
          SO THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY THE ONES THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FOR THE STUDENTS. 
          FOR THE STUDENTS. 
          YEAH, I MENTIONED THAT. 
          THANK YOU SHELBY. 
          UH, AND THEN OF COURSE I ALSO DIRECT THEM TO THE TEXAS MUSIC DIRECTORY, WHICH IS HOSTED BY THE TEXAS MUSIC OFFICE. 
          AND IT'S A FULL LIST OF, UH, SERVICES THAT YOU CAN GET WITHIN THE, UH, WITHIN THE STATE, BY CITY AND BY SECTOR OF THE CREATIVE SECTORS. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO ME, I WANNA FIND A BOOKING AGENT, I WANNA FIND A MANAGER, I WANNA FIND A PR FIRM. 
          THEY'RE ALL IN THERE. 
          AND YOU CAN FIND A WHOLE LIST OF ALL THE ONES WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, FIND THEIR WEBSITE, CONTACT THEM, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKEWISE, LAWYERS, ACCOUNTANTS, ANYBODY WITHIN THE INDUSTRY. 
          IT'S ALL THERE ON THE TEXAS MUSIC DIRECTORY. 
          AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE RESOURCES ON OUR WEBSITE, ATX MUSIC.ORG, AND I HELP DIRECT THEM TO THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, NOW, LIKE, LIKE ERICA WAS SAYING, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP BEYOND THE GRANT PROGRAM SO THAT ANYBODY IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY CAN ACCESS THESE, UH, RESOURCES. 
          OBVIOUSLY NOT THE PAID ONES, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WELCOME TO PAY FOR IT IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T HAVE GRANTS AND THEY WANT TO TAKE THOSE CLASSES AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY OUR FIRST PRIORITY WAS HELPING OUR GRANT AWARDEES BE IN A GOOD POSITION TO SUCCEED. 
          AND THEN, UH, FROM THERE, SPREADING IT OUT FURTHER TO THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING THAT WORD OUT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          AND THEY GET A DISCOUNT ON THE CHART METRIC, RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY ALSO CAN GET A DISCOUNT MEMBERSHIP TO CHAR METRIC BECAUSE THE CITY HAS SPONSORED A, LIKE A MAIN GOVERNMENT MEMBERSHIP SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE DISCOUNTS AND IT'S PRETTY INEXPENSIVE. 
          AND THAT'S A, AND THAT AGAIN, SO THAT'S WHAT GREG DOES MOST OF THE DAY. 
          HE MEETS ONE-ON-ONE WITH PEOPLE. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN A WORDY, YOU COULD BE ANYONE JUST TO GET THIS TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT HELP. 
          AND HE WILL SEND STUFF AND, YOU KNOW, DIRECT THEM TO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PLACES ONLINE. 
          UH, JUST ON THE TOPIC, IF I QUICKLY MAY, UM, ARE ALL OF THESE RESOURCES KIND OF AVAILABLE ON A, ON A COMMON SHAREPOINT WHERE IT'S MM-HMM . 
          YOU GO THERE AND YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING? YES. 
          THAT'S AVAILABLE. 
          AND I THINK WE, WE CREATED AN EXTERNAL SHAREPOINT, THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR MARKETING TRAINING IS FOR ALL OFTIES ACROSS ALL OF OUR CULTURAL FUNDING PROGRAMS, AND THEN, UH, LINKS TO THESE OTHER PROGRAMS IN A ONE SHEET. 
          BUT THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB WITH ACME AND THE UMBRELLA COMPONENT OF IT TO MAKE THAT MORE VISIBLE, MAKE IT MORE WHERE IT'S NOT SILOED AND THAT IT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN SERVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          UH, PERHAPS IT'S LIKE, HERE'S AN ACCOUNTING SECTION, A LAWYER SECTION THAT HELPS ALL OF THE AWARDEES, DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S LIVE MUSIC FUND OR NOT, AND THEN HAVE SECTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE DISCIPLINES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THAT ONE-ON-ONE OR THAT MORE SPECIFIC TRAINING THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR PARTICULAR CAREER. 
          YEAH. 
          ALSO LIKE, UM, WORKSHOPS OR CLASSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE DURING A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME AND THEY GET, YOU KNOW, ON SOCIAL MEDIA AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU LET PEOPLE KNOW. 
          I THINK, I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN BE ADOPTED KIND OF TO, WE'VE TALKED TO A SOCIALIZE MUCH MORE ALSO. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'VE TALKED TO A CC, WE'VE TALKED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ABOUT, UH, PROGRAMS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A STUDENT. 
          JUST WHAT CAN WE DO TO LEVERAGE THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN AS GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE SUPPORT. 
          AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF I MAY GO TO, UH, COMMISSIONER KADA FIRST AND THEN I WILL, UH, YIELD TO YOU COMMISSIONER ALDO. 
          UM, OH GOODNESS. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          WE'VE, I KNOW WE HAVE A ROBUST EVENING TONIGHT, BUT, UM, I THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR ALL THIS, UM, GREAT INFO. 
          I TOO AM REALLY, UH, EXCITED ABOUT THE RESOURCE LIBRARY. 
          I MEAN, I REMEMBER BACK IN THE 19 HUNDREDS WHEN I WAS WRITING GRANTS, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO SEE OTHER SAMPLE GRANTS THAT WERE OUT THERE, UM, TO JUST KIND OF WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND THE WIZARDRY OF WRITING A GRANT. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. 
          UM, 
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IN TERMS OF, UM, WHAT TO DO WITH THE FOLKS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE THEIR REPORTS OR WHERE THAT MONEY IS, I SU SUPPOSE THAT THERE'S BEST PRACTICES OUT THERE FROM OTHER FOUNDATIONS AND OTHER GRANT MAKING ENTITIES THAT WE COULD SAY, WHAT DO Y'ALL DO? HOW DO WE, WHAT, HOW DO WE PROCEED? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE WAY TO DO THIS? UM, AND UM, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO REMAIN VERY NURTURING AND, YOU KNOW, COUNT ON EDUCATION WITH THIS. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS SUCH A NEW PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE TO, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE WITH COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION. 
          UM, AND I GUESS ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S 61 APPLICANTS OR AWARDEES FROM 2023 THAT ARE KIND OF FLOATING OUT THERE, 56, 56, BUT FOUR FORFEITED AND ONE DID AN INTERIM RIGHT. 
          BUT PAID IT BACK. 
          SO I WAS KIND OF TOTALLING ALL THOSE UP OUT OF 367 MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR A PILOT YEAR. 
          I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE KNOW LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT? YES. 
          SO THE MONEY THAT HAS, AND THIS IS FOR THE 56, 'CAUSE THE OTHER ONES EITHER DIDN'T TAKE THE MONEY OR SENT THE MONEY BACK. 
          GOTCHA. 
          UH, IT'S, IT'S $394,500 OF MONEY THAT IS, THAT WAS PAID THAT WE NEED REPORTING ON. 
          SO WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID THEY DO WITH IT FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THAT WE DO HAVE REPORTING FOR THE FIRST 50%. 
          AND I THINK THAT WAS 36. 
          AND THEN, UM, OR 33, ACTUALLY IT WAS 33 THAT HAD DONE REPORTING FOR THE FIRST HALF. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE 23 THAT HAVEN'T DONE EITHER THE INITIAL REPORT OR THE FINAL REPORT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, UM, AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING EVERY DAY TO CONTACT THOSE FOLKS ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND BRING THEM IN AND SAY, YOU'RE NOT IN TROUBLE. 
          WE WANT TO HELP YOU TO GET THIS DONE. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE AS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE AS MUCH GRACE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THIS IS SO NEW AND A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, TO MAKE THINGS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO THE 3 94 IS MONEY THAT IS OUT THAT WAS GIVEN OUT AND THE PROJECT ISN'T COMPLETED. 
          THAT THE REPORTS AREN'T COMPLETED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. 
          AND TRUST, WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS WITH THAT. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UM, THAT'S GOOD PUBLIC INFORMATION OF GUYS, WE, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE GOTTA WRAP IT UP, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH. 
          WRAP IT UP. 
          IT'S NOT TOO LATE. 
          YOU'RE NOT IN, IT'S NOT TOO LATE. 
          YOU'RE NOT IN TROUBLE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE IN TROUBLE. 
          WE WANNA HELP YOU. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD WORK IS SHOWN AND A LOT OF THESE FOLKS DID THE WORK. 
          THEY JUST ARE, HONESTLY, WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR LIVES IF WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM AT ALL. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT KIM IS LEARNING, IS THAT IT'S A LOT OF, UH, PERSONAL CHALLENGES OUT THERE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT OF SAY, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER . 
          COMMISSIONER CARVALHO. 
          I'LL KEEP IT PRETTY SHORT. 
          UM, IN OUR INFINITE SEARCH TO STAY AS LOCAL AND CONNECTED AS POSSIBLE. 
          I WORK AT THE FAR OUT ONE HUNDREDS OF MUSIC VENUE SOUTH AUSTIN. 
          AND WE FOUND TOWER AND BRIDGE, WHICH IS A PR STUDENT RUN ORGANIZATION OUT OF UT. 
          AND THEY'RE FAIRLY ACCESSIBLE, NOT SUPER CHEAP, BUT WORTH IT. 
          UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AND IT'S COMPLETELY STUDENT RUN. 
          IT'S A CLASS THAT THEY, SO THE CAMPAIGNS RUN FOR EVERY SEMESTER 'CAUSE IT'S THE, THE CLASS GOES THROUGH AND THE END OF IT IS THEIR DISSERTATION OR WHATEVER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          COOL. 
          IF THERE IS A SPACE WHERE WE CAN MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THINGS THAT WE HAVE USED AS, YOU KNOW, MUSIC COMMISSIONERS OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE RUN MUSIC VENUES. 
          THAT'S A REALLY GREAT ONE. 
          UM, NEVA CONVENTION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I JUST CAME BACK FROM MM-HMM . 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE A MUSIC VENUE PERSON THING ALWAYS, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S, UH, IT'S SUPER EASILY ACCESSIBLE, BUT IT'S KIND OF EXPENSIVE IF MM-HMM . 
          IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO IT. 
          SO MAYBE THERE IS A SPACE WHERE, UH, LOCAL FOLKS IN LOCAL VENUES CAN ACCESS SOME OF THESE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE OTHER THINGS THAT IT'S NOT FREE, IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE, BUT IT IS FOR, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY THAT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THERE'S A NEW VERSION OF POLESTAR 
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MM-HMM . 
          BY PRISM, WHICH IS THE PRISM INSIGHTS. 
          SO I THINK THOSE THREE THINGS, LIKE A LOT OF LIKE LOCAL MUSICIANS AND LOCAL VENUES COULD REALLY TAKE A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM USING, IT'S JUST A UNTENABLE IF, IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE, YOU KNOW, COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THERE ARE A LOT OF GRANTS OUT THERE ACTUALLY FOR MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AS HAS COVID REALLY FACILITATED THE NEED, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULD SEE IT. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT MORE GRANTS OUT THERE THAN YOU REALIZE BEYOND JUST CITY GRANTS FOR, I FEEL LIKE LOT MUSIC INDUSTRY, LIKE, LIKE MUSICIANS DON'T GET TO GO TO NEVA CONVENTIONS OR THEY DON'T GET TO SEE THE TOWER AND BRIDGE LIKE UT KID STUFF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THERE'S PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT GRANTS THEY CAN GET TO GO DO THIS THINGS. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          I I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY, THEY CAN USE IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE IT FEELS SO LIKE, OH, IT'S CORPORATE. 
          THAT'S LIKE BUSINESS SEED. 
          LOCAL MUSICIANS ARE A BUSINESS. 
          YES. 
          AND THEY SHOULD VIEW THEMSELVES AS THAT, I THINK MORE OFTEN THAN THEY DO. 
          AND THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM. 
          IT'D BE COOL TO SEE. 
          I DIDN'T SEE ANY, WELL, NOT THAT MANY MUSICIANS THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF OTHER MUSIC BUSINESS AT NEVA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, WELL, UH, DIRECTOR MEANS WE'LL ACTUALLY BE DISCUSSING OF HOW WE CAN FILL SOME UNMET NEEDS WITH ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS AND OTHER TYPES OF FUNDRAISING FOR THINGS THAT HOT CAN'T COVER. 
          AND SO, UM, SHE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE WHILE. 
          I'LL WAIT. 
          THANKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          COMMISSIONER ST. 
          STICKMAN. 
          ONE. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UH, AND, AND THANK YOU, UH, ERICA FOR, FOR, FOR THE REPORTING. 
          I, I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, KIM AND GREG Y Y'ALL REALLY ARE DOING THE GOOD WORK, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF, I MEAN, IT'S NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED THAT YOU'RE ALSO SERVICING ON BOTH ENDS, LIKE, LIKE THE, IN THE, IN THE STEPS IN THE PROCESS, BUT YOU'RE ALSO DEALING WITH ALL OF THE ANGRY EMAILS AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST KINDA OUT THERE. 
          LIKE, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, I THINK YOU GUYS WERE DOING, UM, SOME REALLY AMAZING WORK AND, UM, EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT HAS APPLIED OR BEEN DENIED OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, YOU'VE LIKE SERVICED THEM. 
          AND I JUST KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING GOOD WORK. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL, UM, FOR THAT. 
          UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF JUST PROCEDURALLY THE, UM, THE, SO WE'RE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE 23, UM, YEAR, FISCAL YEAR, FIVE OF $10,000 GRANTS, UH, WENT OUT TO MUSICIANS IN IT'S INAUGURAL YEAR. 
          AND, UH, THE, I THINK THAT WERE THOSE STEPS, THEY WERE NOT THE 50, 40, 10 STEPS, RIGHT? THEY WERE, WERE THEY, WERE THEY OR WERE THEY YES, THEY WERE. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND SO FOR, FOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, SO BASICALLY WHEN AN APPLICANT IS AWARDED THEIR GRANT, THEY GET 50% OF THEIR MONEY UP FRONT. 
          THEN YOU START WORKING ON YOUR PROJECT, YOU DO THE PROJECT DURING THE PROJECT, YOU GET 40% OF THE MONEY. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO SHOW EVIDENCE THE FIRST 50%. 
          AND THERE'S A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS WE ASK IN THE INITIAL REPORT IN ORDER TO GET THE NEXT, UH, AMOUNT RELEASED, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          AND SO THEN YOU, THAT'S YOUR NEXT CHECKPOINT. 
          AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT, WHEN ONCE ALL OF YOUR WORK IS TURNED IN AND EVERYTHING, YOU GET YOUR LAST 10%. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THE, THEY'RE GETTING HUNG UP. 
          WHERE, WHERE IN THE PROCESS ARE THEY GETTING HUNG UP AT? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IT'S THE REPORTING, JUST THE DEFINE THE REPORTING AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR REPORTING, BECAUSE WE STARTED IN ONE SYSTEM WHERE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO YOUR REPORTING WITHIN THAT EDD PORTAL AND THEN IT BROKE. 
          AND SO THEN WE SWITCHED EVERYONE AND BIG EMAIL, MASS EMAILS TO EVERYONE. 
          ACTUALLY, YOU NEED TO USE THESE GOOGLE FORMS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING OVER HERE. 
          AND SO, HONESTLY, I'M SURE WE LOST PEOPLE THROUGH THAT, THROUGH JUST OUR OWN, UH, NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TO SWITCH THEM TO A DIFFERENT SYSTEM AND GET THEM TRAINED UP FIRST. 
          WE TRAINED THEM ON PORTAL. 
          WE DID A BUNCH OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND ALL THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IN THE WORLD COULDN'T FIX SOME OF THE THINGS JUST JUST BROKE WITHIN THAT SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WE HAD TO PIVOT AS QUICKLY AS WE COULD TO SOME GOOGLE REPORTING AND THEN GET THEM TRAINED THERE AS WELL. 
          SO HONESTLY, WE DO, KIM AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LOT. 
          WE THINK WE JUST LOST PEOPLE DURING THAT UNFORTUNATE TECHNICAL PROCESS. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN IN 50 DIFFERENT WAYS TO JUST KIND OF TRY TO GET THEM BACK AND SAY, HEY, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU TO MAKE THIS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE? OKAY. 
          THE, IS IT, IS IT LIKE DIFFERENT STAGES IN THE REPORTING OR IS IT, IS THAT THE 10%? THERE'S JUST, THERE'S JUST TWO REPORTS. 
          SO YOU SAW, RIGHT, THERE WAS 33 THAT HAD DONE THE INITIAL REPORT AND GAVE US, LIKE, THIS IS HOW WE SPENT THE FIRST 50%, BUT THERE WERE 23 WHO DID NO REPORTING. 
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OKAY. 
          THE IS IS THERE A, THERE, THERE ALSO, BY THE WAY, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M SORT OF REFERENCING, I, I BELIEVE THAT SHELBY CIRCLED AROUND A LETTER THAT WENT TO ELT, WHICH THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM ALSO WENT TO MR. GARZA FOR THE LONG CENTER. 
          UM, I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT OR NOT, BUT I'LL ASK A FEW QUESTIONS FROM THAT. 
          'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT ALL OF THAT OR NOT. 
          BUT THE, UM, BASICALLY WHERE, IS THERE A BREAKDOWN OF WHETHER THEY WERE DOING A LIVE SHOW VERSUS WHETHER THEY WERE IN STUDIO MODE OR LIKE, IS THERE A DIFFERENT BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS? THESE WERE ALL FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          SO ALL THE APPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY PITCHED AN IDEA THAT WAS SCORED ON ACCORDING TO OUR PI PRINCIPLES IN 2023. 
          SO IT WAS A FUTURE PROJECT THAT WAS SPECIFIC. 
          IT WAS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AT A, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, KIND OF LIKE AT A PARK OR AT A COMMUNITY CENTER OR AT A FACILITY OR AT A VENUE WITH THIS TYPE OF TALENT, UH, COLLABORATING WITH THIS TYPE OF TALENT. 
          AND SO IF THAT FELL THROUGH, THEY HAD TO COME UP WITH LIKE THE SAME SCOPE IN ORDER TO FIT THE AGREEMENT OF WHAT THEY HAD SIGNED. 
          THEY'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE EXACT SAME SCOPE AT A DIFFERENT TIME. 
          AND SO THAT'S DIFFICULT. 
          LET'S SAY A VENUE CLOSES OR A PERSON DROPS OUT OF A SHOW AND, AND YOU CAN'T FIND SOMEONE THAT IS EASILY TO REPLACE THAT PERSON THAT YOU HAD COUNTED ON. 
          THAT'S DIFFICULT IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          NOT AS DIFFICULT IN ARTS AND CULTURE BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE NONPROFITS THAT HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT IS PLANNED A YEAR IN ADVANCE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF A REGULAR SCHEDULE OF PROGRAMMING. 
          ON THE MUSIC SIDE, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THAT. 
          SOMETIMES MAGIC HAPPENS AND YOU CAN BOOK A SHOW FOR THE NEXT WEEK. 
          SOMETIMES YOU COULD HAVE BEEN PLANNING IT FOR NINE MONTHS AND IT ALL FALLS, FALLS APART IN THE LAST WEEK BECAUSE OF WEATHER, YOU KNOW? AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO, UH, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE SCORED FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          AND WE LEARNED FROM THAT AND WE CHANGED IT FOR 2024 AND GOING FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK I'M DONE. 
          I THINK I'M DONE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER SILVA. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, ERICA, THANK, THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR, YOU KNOW, THE VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS OF GETTING THROUGH THAT FIRST YEAR, THE FIRST YEAR OF GRANTS. 
          AND YEAH, I'M SURE EVERYBODY CAN APPRECIATE THE DIFFICULTIES THAT MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE HAD TRYING TO, TO WORK THROUGH THE TECHNICAL ISSUES AS FAR AND ALSO THIS, THEIR THINGS THAT COME UP. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I, I, MY QUESTION IS, SO OF THESE 56 GRANTEES, AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN IDEA, BUT BE THINKING ABOUT IT, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU FEEL YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COME TO A FINAL RESOLUTION IN WHICH THEY DO SUBMIT THOSE REPORTS? WELL, I HAVE TO. 
          THAT'S THAT THE FIRST QUESTION. 
          AND, AND MAYBE THE SECOND WILL HELP. 
          AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, AT WHAT POINT WILL STAFF BE COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THESE REMAINING, UM, GRANTEES, OR HOW DO WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD, UM, IN SORT OF CLOSING THE LOOP ON, ON THESE GRANTS? SO I KNOW KIM HAS BEEN DUE DILIGENTLY REACHING OUT TO THESE FOLKS SINCE THE BEGINNING, UH, WITH A EXTRA FOCUS IN THE LAST NINE MONTHS. 
          UH, AND KIND OF LIKE, IT'S, UH, LIKE A LOOKING FOR CLUES OF WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND THEN UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND THEN PIVOTING A LITTLE BIT WITH OUR STRATEGY TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM BECOME MORE, YOU KNOW, HELP THEM WITH THE COMPLIANCE. 
          AND IT'S WORKED. 
          BUT WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT NOW THAT WE'RE NOT SURE. 
          I MEAN, WHAT IF THEY'VE MOVED? UM, WHAT IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED TO THEM, WE JUST DON'T KNOW. 
          UH, IT COULD BE JUST GOING TO A VOICEMAIL BOX THAT IS STILL ACTIVE OR AN EMAIL BOX THAT'S STILL ACTIVE. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA KEEP TRYING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS AS ACME OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO WHEN WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO SEE WHAT ARE NEXT STEPS. 
          WHAT DO WE DO AS A CITY? WHAT DO WE DO AS A COMMISSION, A MUSIC COMMISSION, AND WHAT DO WE DO AS ACME? WHAT IS, WHAT DO OUR VALUES DICTATE WE DO, AND WHAT DOES OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYER DICTATE WE DO. 
          BUT THAT'S A BALANCE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, TO REALLY THINK ABOUT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS A PILOT WHERE WE'VE PREVENTED THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO THINK ON IT. 
          BUT DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHEN, OR DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN YOU'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION? WE CAN GIVE YOU A MONTHLY UPDATE AT EVERY COMMISSION MEETING ON HOW, HOW FAR? IT'S REALLY JUST, YEAH, Y'ALL'S DISCRETION OF WHEN YOU FEEL YOU'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE WORKING ANYMORE. 
          I THINK THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY DECIDE AS ACME 
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OF WHEN THOSE AGREEMENTS NEED TO BE DONE. 
          UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE WILL REPORT TO YOU THAT THE NUMBER THAT GETS HOPEFULLY WHITTLED DOWN, UH, EVERY TIME, EVERY MONTH. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          COMMISSIONER? YEAH. 
          UH, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I FORGOT ACTUALLY. 
          UH, SO THE, WHAT ROLE AND, AND JOB 'CAUSE 'CAUSE THE LONG CENTER IS, IS, IS HELPING TO, UM, FACILITATE, FACILITATE THE, THE, THE, THE DENIALS AND APPROVALS OF THE APPLICATIONS, ALL THAT STUFF. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE, UM, THE, I I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHERE ARE, WHAT, WHAT ROLE IS ALONGSIDE PLAYING IN HELPING YOU ALL FACILITATE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH, UM, THESE AWARDEES THAT ARE JUST FLOATING IN THE ETHER SOMEWHERE? OH, WELL, WE JUST TAG TEAM ON COMMUNICATION. 
          SO ALL COMMUNICATION OBVIOUSLY STARTS WITH SUBMITTABLE SO THAT WE HAVE A RECORD, RIGHT? WITH ALL OF OUR AWARDEES. 
          AND THAT FOR THOSE ONES THAT ARE IN SUBMITTABLE, IF IT'S FY 23, IT'S ALL THROUGH KIM BECAUSE THAT IS A CITY BASED PLATFORM, RIGHT? AND SO THE LONG CENTER WORKS WITH US IN THE TERMS OF LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES MAYBE SOMEONE WILL SEND THEM MONEY BACK OR WILL SEND THEM A REPORT. 
          'CAUSE THEY ARE JUST CONFUSED OF WHO DO I TALK TO AND NOT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT, BUT IT'S JUST HOWEVER THE INFORMATION COMES, WE'LL TAKE IT. 
          AND THE LONG CENTER IS COMMUNICATING WITH US EVERY DAY IF THEY RECEIVE ANYTHING. 
          'CAUSE THAT ALL COMES TO US, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE THE HOLDER OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT, WE ARE THE GRANT MANAGERS. 
          WE'RE THE ONES WHO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK WITH THE AWARDEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WORK IS DONE. 
          UH, THE LONG CENTER JUST FOLLOWS THE GUIDELINES, FOLLOWS THE PROCESSES THAT WE LAY OUT FOR THEM, BUT IT'S UP TO US TO MANAGE EACH AND EVERY AGREEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, BUT I DO, I DO THINK AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO SEE SOME KIND OF IMPACT REPORT OVER WHAT BASICALLY THIS $10 MILLION HAS DONE IN TERMS OF RAISING THE BAR FOR USAGE COST. 
          OH YEAH. 
          NO, WE WILL, ONCE WE, THE FINAL REPORTS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN IT, AND WE ASK THEM, WHAT DID YOU DO WITH IT? AND, AND SHOW US PROOF OF THAT. 
          AND SO YES, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO PROVIDE THAT REPORT TO YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN NOW WITH, WE HAVE A MAJORITY DONE THAT I THINK WE COULD START BUILDING A DATA DASHBOARD OF HOW MANY WERE EVENTS, HOW MANY WERE RECORDS, OR THIS OR THAT. 
          BECAUSE IT WAS ALLOWED, IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE AN EVENT. 
          IT WAS ALL THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION WANTED TO ALLOW. 
          AND SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A REPORT TO YOU GUYS ON THAT, UM, AS, AS WELL AS 2024, EVEN SOONER BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TWO YEARS, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO ALL OF THOSE AGREEMENTS BEING DONE. 
          THANK YOU, ERICA. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST, JUST HAVE ONE, JUST SCENARIO BASED COMMISSIONER PRICE, RIGHT? BECAUSE SHELBY BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT WE CAN'T REPRESENT OURSELVES RIGHT, AS INDIVIDUALS COMMISSIONED. 
          SO WHEN YOU ALL REACH OUT TO INDIVIDUALS, EXCUSE ME, ARE YOU HAVING TO REACH OUT ON BEHALF OF EDD? SO SAY FOR INSTANCE, YOU GO TO A SHOW AND YOU'RE LIKE, WE KNOW THAT THIS PERSON IS SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE GIVING MONEY TO AND NOW THEY'RE PERFORMING. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO APPROACH THEM LEGALLY? ARE THERE RAMIFICATIONS ABOUT THAT OF YOU HAVING TO APPROACH THEM PROFESSIONALLY? WELL, WE'RE STAFF, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBILITY AND ABILITY THAN COMMISSIONERS THAT IS LAID OUT BY, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          UM, I HAVE TO SAY THAT A LOT OF TIMES I GO TO SHOWS AND I FEEL LIKE I'M STILL WORKING, YOU KNOW, JUST, AND IT'S MORE FROM A LIKE, INFORMATION, LIKE, HERE'S MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S COMING UP. 
          NOT, HEY, YOU DIDN'T DO THIS OR THAT OR THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT MY ROLE OUT OUTSIDE OF WORK TO DO THAT. 
          BUT MY ROLE AS ANY, YOU KNOW, AS PERSON WITH ACME OR WITH THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION IS, HEY, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, THE GRANT'S ABOUT TO OPEN POSITIVE STUFF THAT I'LL SHARE ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, BUT IT IS NOT MY ROLE, UH, OUT, OUT AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TO BE DOING THIS. 
          UH, WE DO THAT IN, YOU KNOW, DURING CITY HOURS THROUGH OUR OFFICIAL EMAILS, UH, AND NOT ANY OTHER WAY. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, I, I THINK OVERALL, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE STEPS YOU ALL ARE TAKING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE PILOT YEAR. 
          UM, IT LOOKS LIKE LOOKING AT THE PROGRESS FROM 2024, THINGS ARE PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO RUN INTO THIS KIND OF A SITUATION. 
          UM, THINGS CROSSED, RIGHT? AND, UH, FOR THE PILOT YEAR, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A 15 TO 20% KIND OF QUENT STATUS AT THIS POINT. 
          UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER TO ME, EVEN THOUGH 60 DOES RING LIKE A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER. 
          UM, I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS, UH, VERY NEW TO GRANTS, UH, UNLIKE, UH, FOLKS ON THE ARTS SIDE AND, UH, THAT WE ARE OFFERING DEAR GRACE AND DEAR SUPPORT AND, UH, EDUCATION. 
          UH, THE, THE GOAL IS TO FULFILL THE GRANTS AND, UH, UH, LET PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THE FUNDING AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THOSE FUNDINGS RATHER THAN DRAW LINES AND 
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TRY TO TAKE THE MONEY AWAY BECAUSE, UH, OF COMPLIANCE ISSUES, UH, COMPLIANCE IS IMPORTANT. 
          SO IT'LL BE, IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME OF THE STEPS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE. 
          MAYBE EVENTUALLY THAT SPLIT CAN BE DIFFERENT TOO, THAT, UH, IS MORE COMPELLING TO SUBMIT THE REPORTS. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE, I I'M, THERE ARE DIFFERENT PARAMETERS WE'RE WORKING WITH HERE WITH CITY GRANT, SO COMPLIANCE DOES BECOME IMPORTANT, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE STEPS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN TO JUST, UH, PRODUCTIVELY AND POSITIVELY SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I, UH, AND THAT, THAT'S THE, AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, UH, LIKE TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, JUST A QUICK TIME CHECK. 
          WE'RE ABOUT, THANKS EVERYONE. 
          7 55, UH, PM HERE. 
          THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME, UH, HEAVY, UH, TOPICS COMING UP HERE. 
          UH, BUT THIS WAS, UH, THIS DISCUSSION WAS DUE, SO I'M GLAD, UH, WE SPENT THE TIME IN, IN, IN DISCUSSING THIS TOPIC. 
          UM, SO WE MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEMS. 
          [5. Video licensing of local musicians at the airport following presentation by Louie Carr,  Own Path Media and Steve Carlos Kirk, Streak Systems.]
WE HAVE, UH, VIDEO LICENSING OF LOCAL MUSICIANS AT THE AIRPORT, FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY LOUIS CARR OWN PAT MEDIA AND STEVE CARLOS, UH, KIRK, UH, STREET SYSTEMS. THANK YOU LOUIS AND STEVE. 
          I, ONE SECOND. 
          LEMME GET MYSELF VERY POLITE. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          HOW'S EVERYONE DOING TONIGHT? I, UH, APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE. 
          I'M LOUIS CARR, THIS IS STEVE CARLOS, CARLOS KIRK. 
          I WORK AS AN ARTIST MANAGER. 
          CURRENTLY I WORK WITH JACKIE BENSON, BUT IN THE PAST I'VE WORKED WITH GINA CHAVEZ AND TAMIKA JONES KALU IN THE ELECTRIC JOINT. 
          UM, I'VE ALWAYS SEEN MYSELF AS SORT OF A STEWARD FOR ABUNDANTLY TALENTED PEOPLE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS GIVE PEOPLE LIKE THEM A BIGGER PLATFORM IN THIS CITY. 
          ON THE BIGGEST STAGE, WE HAVE THE MOST, CERTAINLY THE MOST VISITED. 
          UM, SO THIS IS ABOUT HOW AUSTIN CAN LEAD WITH INFRASTRUCTURE THAT PAYS ARTISTS, EXPANDS CULTURAL REACH, AND BUILDS A TRULY SUSTAINABLE MUSIC ECONOMY, NOT JUST A SCENE. 
          AND IT'S BASED ON LIVED ARTIST EXPERIENCE, TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, AND A LONG-TERM VIEW OF WHAT CREATIVE EQUITY CAN LOOK LIKE. 
          UH, IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE TWO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT JUST A MUSIC SCENE, WE'RE A MUSIC ECONOMY. 
          I THINK IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          A LOT OF YOU WORK IN THE SCENE VENUES, ARTISTS, UM, SO YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY RUNS ON MUSIC. 
          AND ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES THAT PEOPLE RUN INTO MUSIC IS THE AIRPORT. 
          AND THE AIRPORT WITH HAS A MULTITUDE OF STAGES PUTTING ON A MULTITUDE OF SHOWS. 
          UM, BUT IT ALSO HAS SYSTEMS STATE-OF-THE-ART SYSTEMS THAT MY GOOD FRIEND HERE, STEVE CARLOS KIRK, HELPED DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT, UM, IN A CITY WHERE WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT IT TODAY. 
          I MEAN, THE GRANTS ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO HELP ARTISTS, UM, WHO STRUGGLE WITH AFFORDABILITY OR STRUGGLE WITH GETTING THE FINANCES THEY NEED TO REALIZE A VISION THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE MUSIC OR FOR THEIR EVENTS OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE AS IT PERTAINS TO MUSIC. 
          UM, AT, UM, WE BUILT A FRAMEWORK THAT PAYS ARTISTS, SHOWCASES LOCAL TALENT, AND DOESN'T RELY ON THE PRESENCE OF PHYSICAL AUDIENCE. 
          SO NOT ONLY ARE PEOPLE SEEING THE SHOWS AT STAGES, BUT WITH THE SYSTEMS AND THE CAMERAS, IT'S BROADCAST WHEREVER IT NEEDS TO BE. 
          THE SYSTEM CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE 250 SCREENS THAT ARE AT A BIA, BUT IT CAN ALSO BROADCAST TO ANY CITY GOVERNMENT BOARDS, UH, OR MONITORS TO DISPLAY, UM, THOSE PERFORMANCES HIGH AT A HIGH QUALITY. 
          UM, STEVE, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE THREE? ALL RIGHT. 
          THIS IS WHERE I'LL LET, THIS IS THE TECHNICAL SIDE. 
          SO HERE'S WHAT'S BUILT, WHAT, WHAT WE BUILT AT THE AIRPORT DURING COVID. 
          WHEN WE HAD LOCKDOWN, PEOPLE WEREN'T PERFORMING. 
          IT WAS A HUGE PROBLEM. 
          PEOPLE LOST THEIR GIGS AT THE AIRPORT. 
          HOW DO WE FIRE THIS BACK UP? WE PUT TOGETHER THE JET STREAM FEST. 
          THERE WERE TWO SHOWS, UH, IT REACHED 8.6 MILLION VIEWS, 8.6 MILLION VIEWS. 
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NOW THIS IS GONNA BE IN COORDINATION WITH PIO MARKETING AT THE AIRPORT. 
          8.6 MILLION VIEWS FOR 46 ACTS, I THINK ON THERE. 
          LET'S SEE, 23 PART PARTICIPATING ACTS TWO SHOWS, 46,000 VIEWERS LIVE. 
          AND THAT BLOWS AWAY ANY POST THAT PIO OR MARKETING HAS EVER DONE FOR THE AUSTIN AIRPORT. 
          THE LIVE PERFORMANCE. 
          SO DEXTERITY, VDMS, WHEN I BUILT THE STAGE AT THE AIRPORT, THE THING THAT I DID FIRST WAS SPEC IP CAMERAS. 
          NOW THIS IS 20 17, 20 18, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WAY BEFORE COVID, WHEN WE COMMISSIONED THE STAGE AND WE BROUGHT EVERYBODY UP, I MADE IT A POINT TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, IF WE HAVE AN IP BOX, BASICALLY LIKE AN APPLE TV AT HOME, RIGHT? WE'VE ALL GOT THOSE SLAPPING ON THE BACK OF ANY OF THOSE MONITORS AT THE AIRPORT, WE CAN STREAM THE LIVE PERFORMANCE ANYWHERE. 
          NOW THE CITY CAN ADOPT THIS, THIS CAN BE REMOTE, THIS CAN BE ANYWHERE. 
          THIS IS CALLED AN ENDPOINT. 
          SO DEXTERITY, VDMS, 250 SCREENS AT THE TIME. 
          SO THOSE ARE 250 ENDPOINTS WHERE NOT ONLY THE LIVE PERFORMANCE COULD BE BROADCAST TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THESE AREAS. 
          WE HAVE EIGHT OR NINE STAGES. 
          IT'S MORE THAN ANY OTHER AIRPORT IN THE US. 
          I STILL GET CALLS FROM OTHER AIRPORTS BECAUSE OF THE JET STREAM FEST TO CONSULT WITH THEM ON WHAT TO DO. 
          SO WE HAVE, WE HAD, UH, UP UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, I THINK THE PROGRAM THAT REALLY SET THE STANDARD FOR THE TO WHOLE UNITED STATES HERE, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT I BUILT IN THE STAGE WAS THE ABILITY FOR ME TO REMOTE IN. 
          I CAN REMOTELY MIX A SHOW, ALRIGHT? THIS IS BEFORE COVID BEFORE EVERYTHING STARTS, STARTED SHUTTING DOWN. 
          AND, AND ALL THIS BECAME KIND OF NORMAL, BUT I BUILT IT SO I COULD REMOTELY MIX A SHOW. 
          WE COULD PUT IT LIVE, ANYTHING COULD GO LIVE TO INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK, THAT KIND OF THING, BUT ALSO TO THESE END POINTS. 
          NOW, WHAT THAT ALSO, IT ENABLES FOLKS TO DO IS TO CREATE STINGERS. 
          NOW THE AIRPORT DOES ITS OWN BOOKING. 
          AND SO WHEN IT'S BOOKING THESE ARTISTS, THEY WANNA PUT THE SIGNAGE UP. 
          IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WHEN, WHEN ARTISTS PLAY, IT'S NOT JUST THE INCOME FROM THE GIG, IT'S THE TIPS. 
          HUGELY IMPORTANT. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS PROVIDE SIGNAGE FOR THE ARTIST. 
          HERE'S, HERE'S A VENMO QR CODE. 
          BOOM. 
          DONE. 
          THAT'S SUPER EASY. 
          THIS ALLOWS THAT TO PUSH OUT TO ANY SCREEN AT THE AIRPORT, IN ANY LOCALE, AT ANY STAGE, AT ANY OF THE VENDORS. 
          YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE REAL CUSTOMERS OF, OF THE AIRPORT ARE GONNA BE THE VENDORS, UM, AND THE AIRLINES, YOU KNOW, TO DRAW PEOPLE IN TO SPEND MORE MONEY WITH THE VENDORS. 
          AND DELAWARE NORTH IS WHO I WORKED WITH DIRECTLY TO BUILD THE STAGE. 
          THEY FUNDED IT. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES WHO GOT THE DESIGN DONE, AND THEY'RE WHO I REALLY ANSWERED TO WHEN WE WANTED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT THIS STAGE DOES AND WHAT IT MEANS AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS FOR THE CITY. 
          THEY WERE VERY INVOLVED AND SUPER AWESOME IN THAT. 
          SO INTEGRATED STAGE AND SOCIAL STREAMING, THE SYSTEM ISN'T SILOED, CONNECTS TO MEDIA CHANNELS, PHYSICAL SIGNAGE ACROSS THE AIRPORT, AND IT CREATES A SCALABLE MULTI-PLATFORM SYSTEM. 
          WHAT THIS ALSO DOES IS ALLOW FOR WHEN ANY OF THE NEW GATES ARE BEING OPENED. 
          OKAY? A SMALL PACK OF GEAR CAN BE ADDED TO. 
          AND I, I KNOW THAT THE AIRPORT LIKES TO DO THEIR, YOU KNOW, PRESS RELEASES AND GET CAMERA TIME ON OPENING THESE THINGS AND SPEC SCHEDULE SPECIAL PERFORMANCES FOR OPENING TERMINALS, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          THEY'RE ABLE TO STREAM THAT OPENING THROUGH THE WHOLE AIRPORT. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, BUT DIRECTLY TO INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK, ANYWHERE ELSE LIVE EACH SCREEN IS AN ENDPOINT. 
          ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET CAN BE AN ENDPOINT ALSO. 
          SO IN THAT STAGE, 30 MILLION PEOPLE WALK BY THAT STAGE IN AND OUT EVERY YEAR. 
          AND THAT'S 2023 NUMBERS. 
          THAT IS THE MOST VISITED VENUE IN AUSTIN. 
          BYE. 
          MILE . 
          ALL RIGHT, UH, NEXT. 
          OH NO, YOU'RE ON TOP OF IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO'S WORKING IT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          UM, I GOT TO TALK TO LOU PRIEST. 
          SHE GOES BY KATE PRIESTLEY. 
          I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE KNOW HER. 
          SHE'S AWESOME. 
          SHE PLAYS THE AIRPORT ALL THE TIME. 
          IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON HER. 
          SHE'S NOT ALONE THOUGH. 
          I'VE TALKED TO SO MANY ARTISTS IN THIS PROCESS THAT SEE THAT AS A FORM OF STABILITY. 
          LIKE ERICA SPOKE ABOUT. 
          THERE'S INSTABILITY IN THIS JOB. 
          IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE BEDROCK OF MUSIC. 
          WE'RE JUST BUILT ON SAND, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING. 
          UM, THIS PROVIDES STABILITY IN A TIME WHERE WE'RE STILL COMING OUT OF THE DUST SETTLING FOR COVID. 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO THINK THAT STABILITY HAS RETURNED, BUT IT HASN'T HAPPENED. 
          NOT FOR THE VENUES, NOT FOR THE MUSICIANS, NOT FOR ANYONE IN BETWEEN. 
          BUT THE MUSIC, THE MUSIC AT THE AIRPORT, THAT IS A PLACE OF STABILITY. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA READ THIS, PRETEND LIKE IT'S A BRITISH WOMAN WHO'S VERY COOL. 
          UH, I LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY 
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TO PLAY SHOWS AT THE AIRPORT, HAVING A REGULAR PAYING GIG IN A SPACE WHERE YOU MEET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. 
          TRAVELERS ALWAYS TELL ME AT MY GIGS HOW MUCH THEIR EXPERIENCE HAS AND HAS BEEN ENHANCED FROM HAVING LIVE MUSIC THROUGHOUT THE AIRPORT. 
          IT MAKES PEOPLE HAPPY. 
          IT GETS THEM THROUGH WAITING FOR THEIR FLIGHTS. 
          IT'S A WELCOMING HELLO AND REMINDER OF TIME SPENT HERE IN THIS VIBRANT CITY. 
          A PILOT EVEN TIPPED ME AT MY LAST GIG AT THE AIRPORT. 
          PEOPLE CARE AND THEY REALLY APPRECIATE THE LIVE MUSIC EXPERIENCE. 
          AND AGAIN, KATE'S BEEN HERE FOR OVER A DECADE. 
          SHE'S MADE HER LIVING HERE AND THIS, THIS MEANS A LOT. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SYSTEM OVERVIEW. 
          CUTTING EDGE TOOLS, COMMUNITY DRIVEN CONTENT. 
          UH, MY BUDDY STEVE OVER HERE TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE ABILITY FOR A MIXING ENGINEER TO MIX ANY STAGE AT ANY TIME FROM ANY POSITION IS IMMENSELY HUGE FOR THE INSTABILITY OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          AUDIO ENGINEER CALLS OUT, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? MAYBE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ON CALL, MAYBE YOU DON'T, MAYBE IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          MAYBE SOMEONE LIKE STEVE OVER HERE CAN JUST ZOOM IN, ADJUST THE AUDIO LEVELS AND POP OUT. 
          NO ONE'S THE WISER WE HAVE THAT WHERE OTHERS DON'T. 
          UH, VIDEO SYNC AND SIGNAGE, PROFESSIONAL GRADE EXPERIENCE, UNLIKE CONSUMER GRADE STREAMING SOLUTIONS, THIS SYSTEM ENSURES PERFECT AUDIO AND VIDEO SYNC ACROSS HUNDREDS OF SCREENS. 
          AND THIS, I THINK IS A MILDLY SLEPT ON ASPECT OF THIS, WHERE WE CAN PRESENT THE BEST OF AUSTIN EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED. 
          WE, WE HAVE COMMODITY HERE THAT OTHER CITIES WISH THEY HAD, AND WE DO TRADE ON IN OTHER PLACES LIKE THE, UH, THE HOT TAX, THE CONVENTION CENTER, SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, ALL THESE OTHER MARQUEE EVENTS. 
          BUT WE KIND OF HAVE LIKE A FOREVER FESTIVAL HAPPENING AT THE AIRPORT. 
          AND THIS TECHNOLOGY HELPS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. 
          AND WE CAN ALSO IN THIS SYSTEM RECORD. 
          SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PREVIEW OF WHAT'S COMING NEXT, BUT, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, SO I'M TRYING NOT TO LIKE, GO ON AND ON, YOU KNOW, UM, WHY IT MATTERS NOW. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT, UM, SLIDES. 
          I MEAN, IT'S ALL IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO JUST PULL FROM CERTAIN POOLS WE, WE CAN REACH BEYOND MUSIC FUNDING. 
          THERE'S THE AUSTIN'S $12 MILLION CREATIVE SPACE BONDS. 
          UH, THIS BOND INCLUDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS THAT COULD SUPPORT DISTRIBUTED DIGITAL STAGES. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE BROADCASTING TO OTHER CITY GOVERNMENT FACILITIES, OTHER TEMPORARY SETUPS, POPUPS. 
          WE'RE UTILIZING WHAT'S ALREADY HERE TO BROADCAST AND POTENTIALLY GET FUNDING FOR THAT. 
          UM, THE PROPOSED MODEL ALIGN. 
          OUR PROPOSED MODEL ALIGNS DIRECTLY WITH THIS FUNDING PRIORITY BY ENABLING CREATIVE SPACE BEYOND PHYSICAL BUILDINGS, ON PUBLIC SCREENS, REC CENTERS, LIBRARIES, TRANSIT HUBS, YOU KNOW, UH, MUSICIANS ARE STILL UNDERPAID DESPITE CITY BRANDING. 
          UM, MANY MUSICIANS STRUGGLE WITH MAKING $25,000 A YEAR ANNUALLY. 
          UH, THIS IS A NEW SYSTEM THAT CAN HELP CREATE ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM. 
          UH, AND CULTURAL EQUITY IS A GROWING PRIORITY AS HIGHLIGHTED IN ONGOING CITY EFFORTS. 
          EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION OF AUSTIN'S MULTICULTURAL TALENT IS ESSENTIAL. 
          A DISTRIBUTED DIGITAL PERFORMANCE SYSTEM ENSURES BROAD VISIBILITY AND ECONOMIC INCLUSION FOR ARTISTS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS, INCLUDING WOMEN BY BIPOC, LT, LG, LGBTQ PLUS, AND DISABLED PERFORMERS. 
          THIS ESSENTIALLY LEVELS THE PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYONE. 
          UH, WE NEED SCALABLE TOOLS THAT PAY ARTISTS AND RE RESPECT THE AUDIENCE. 
          UH, UH, DATA FROM DELAWARE NORTH AND OTHER CONCESSIONERS THAT A BIA SHOWS LIVE MUSIC MAKES TRAVELERS STAY LONGER. 
          THEY HAVE STATISTICS THAT SHOW WHEN THERE'S MUSIC PLAYING, UH, PEOPLE SPEND MORE, THEY STAY LONGER AND EVERYONE'S HAPPIER. 
          UM, IT'S AN EPIC, IT'S AN ECONOMIC TOOL. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GREAT TO SUPPORT MUSICIANS, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T JUST AN INVESTMENT THAT GOES NOWHERE. 
          THIS IS AN INVESTMENT THAT HAS A RETURN. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE HEART OF THE CITY. 
          IT'S A FINANCIAL RETURN. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN IT, LIKE THE MONEY WE'RE INVESTING INTO THE CONVENTION CENTER PROVES THAT EVENTS LIKE THIS, MUSICIANS MUSIC, IT PULLS IN MONEY IT'S WORTH INVESTING IN. 
          UM, SLIDE SEVEN FOR ME. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP IN THE WEEDS I NEED TO GET WITH SYNC LICENSING, BUT ESSENTIALLY YOU GET PAID FOR YOUR LIKENESS OR THE MUSIC AS IT'S USED IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. 
          UH, SYN LICENSING CAN BE FOR TV SHOWS, MOVIES, COMMERCIALS, 
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YOUR MUSIC. 
          THESE, THE MUSIC OF THE MUSICIANS GETS USED. 
          THEY GET PAID. 
          IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME CONCEPT HERE. 
          WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A $250 FLAT RATE LICENSE PER VIDEO, DIRECTLY PAID TO ARTISTS. 
          IT COVERS A ONE MONTH NON-EXCLUSIVE PUBLIC PLAYBACK TERM RENEWABLE FOR THE SAME AMOUNT AT A LATER DATE. 
          UH, MUCH SIMPLER THAN TRADITIONAL SYNC, WHICH CAN COST THOUSANDS AND TIE UP RIGHTS. 
          UH, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS WE HAVE IN AUSTIN IS A VERY LARGE BODY OF QUICK CLEARANCE ARTISTS, INDEPENDENT ARTISTS THAT DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A PUBLISHER. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE LABEL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE MANAGER. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO LIKE 50 PEOPLE THAT ARE ALL GETTING A LITTLE PIECE OF THE PIE. 
          AND ANY 50 OF THOSE PEOPLE CAN SAY NO. 
          UH, A LOT OF ARTISTS HERE, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WROTE IT. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES WHO COPYRIGHTED IT. 
          THEY'RE THE, THEY DID EVERYTHING. 
          AND SO WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THEM AND SAY, HERE'S MONEY. 
          YOUR, YOUR, YOUR MUSIC AND YOUR IMAGE IS GONNA BE PLACED IN A PUBLIC SPACE IN A FAVORABLE TIME TO HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. 
          UH, ALSO TO OFFSET THE COST OF THESE LICENSES, WE CAN BAKE IN ADS IN BETWEEN PERFORMANCES. 
          SO, AND THAT CAN BE WITH PARTNERS LIKE VISIT AUSTIN OR ANY OTHER MARKETING ARM OF THE CITY WHERE IT'S SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, SELF-FULFILLING LOOP, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          GO TO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE? UH, THERE'S ONE POINT I DID WANNA HIT REAL QUICK, OR YOU CAN JUST LEAVE IT THERE AND I CAN READ THE POINT. 
          UH, I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          UH, THIS IS ALL LOCAL FIRST. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF I DIDN'T MAKE THAT CLEAR ENOUGH. 
          THIS IS ALL GEARED TOWARDS PROMOTING AUSTIN MUSICIANS. 
          SO THE MONEY GOES TO THEM, THE EXPOSURE GOES TO THEM, AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO HOOK, THERE'S NO CATCH. 
          IT'S PURELY PROMOTION FOR PROMOTION'S SAKE TO GIVE MONEY TO THESE ARTISTS AND PROMOTE AUSTIN FOR WHAT IT'S LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. 
          UM, OUR GUY, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A PANEL THAT ROTATES SIMILAR TO THE COMMISSION OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INVESTED IN THIS SCENE AND ARE FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS. 
          BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE THE ONE PERSON BOOKING THIS. 
          I WANT A PANEL OF PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT MUSICAL GENRES TO, YOU KNOW, HELP, UH, CURATE THIS. 
          UH, ALRIGHT. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE BUDGET CONTEXT, THE MONEY, UM, THERE'S APPRO APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY TO THE MUSIC PROGRAMMING. 
          THIS COVERS PRODUCTION TECH LOGISTICS AND A SIGNIFICANT SHARE. 
          HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, UH, FLOWS DIRECTLY TO ARTISTS, UM, IN 2025. 
          YEP. 
          WITH A PRIORITY ON TEXAS BASED ARTISTS. 
          FOUR OF THE SEVEN MOST RECENT COMMISSIONS WERE AWARDED TO AUSTIN CREATIVES. 
          UM, LARGER PUBLIC ARTS PROJECTS, TOTAL ABOUT 10 MILLION. 
          UM, NATIONAL TREND AND LOCAL BRANDING. 
          INCREASINGLY, US AIRPORTS ARE ADOPTING LIVE MUSIC PROGRAMS. AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH US. 
          WE SET THE STANDARD HERE, YOU KNOW, THE JET STREAM FEST. 
          I STILL GET CALLS ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, IT WAS A GREAT MOMENT TO SHOW WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE CAN SHOW THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS AT THE AIRPORT. 
          YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A KITCHEN FULL OF INGREDIENTS. 
          WE JUST NEED A CHEF . 
          AND SO THAT, THAT SHOW WAS OFFERED AS A LIVE STREAM THAT COORDINATED WITH 23 DIFFERENT AIRPORTS, TWICE DIFFERENT STACKS OF, UH, DIFFERENT LISTS OF AIRPORTS. 
          AND WE STRUNG THESE PERFORMANCES TOGETHER AS IF IT WERE BEING, UH, SHOT LIVE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ACROSS THE NATION. 
          IT WAS AWESOME. 
          IT WAS, AND THESE WERE MUSICIANS WHO GOT PAID IN DIFFERENT LOCALES THAT ALL LOOKED TO AUSTIN TO LEAD THIS THING. 
          AND WE PULLED IT OFF, WE DID, AND WE CLEARED ALL THE, ALL THE LICENSES. 
          NOTHING PULLED DOWN. 
          IT'S STILL UP THERE. 
          THAT WAS THE MONSTER OF IT, UH, FOR THAT ONE PERFORMANCE. 
          UM, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME? UH, THE ECONOMIC MODEL. 
          SO LIKE WE'VE ALREADY SAID, ARTISTS GETTING PAID DIRECTLY THROUGH LICENSING. 
          IT'S ALSO AN EDUCATIONAL THING FOR THE ARTISTS TOO, BECAUSE WHAT'S MENTIONED BEFORE IS NOT EVERY ARTIST IS UP TO SPEED ON ALL OF THE BUSINESS ASPECTS OF THE BUSINESS THEY'RE IN. 
          AND LICENSING IS A PART OF THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF LICENSING IN AUSTIN. 
          IT HAS GOTTEN A LOT BETTER. 
          UM, THERE'S DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS LIKE NATALIE FAN WHO HELPED, UH, NATALIE FAN CLIFFORD, WHO HELPED, UH, FORMAT THIS AND GIVE ME ALL OF MY INSIGHTS ON LICENSING. 
          SHE'S A GENIUS, BUT THERE'S OTHERS TOO THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, THIS WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, UH, THE DIGITAL SIGNAGE AND AD REVENUE CAN BE A BIG BOON TO THIS LIVING ONWARD. 
          I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A ONE TIME THING. 
          I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A SIX MONTH PROGRAM. 
          I WANT THIS TO BE THE MARQUEE 
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THAT'S SET IN STONE AS AN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS CITY THAT'S LEANED ON THE SAME WAY THAT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST IS IN THE SPRING, OR ACL IS IN THE FALL. 
          LIKE THIS IS A ROTATING YEAR ROUND BEACON OF MUSIC AND MONEY, TO PUT IT SIMPLY. 
          . 
          UM, WE'VE TOUCHED ON VIEWERS, VIEWER TIPS, MERCHANT PORTAL, MERCH PORTALS, YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH SOME CONCESSIONERS ABOUT THE IDEA OF GETTING, UH, MUSIC MERCH, YOU KNOW, FROM LOCAL ARTISTS IN ESPECIALLY THE ARTISTS THAT PERFORM. 
          'CAUSE A LOT OF MUSICIANS HAVE CDS. 
          THEY HAVE T-SHIRTS AND PEOPLE LOVE TAKING A LITTLE PIECE OF AUSTIN WITH THEM. 
          SO INSTEAD OF A MAGNET, WHY NOT A COOL SHIRT? YOU KNOW? UM, I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THE SPONSORSHIP, I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          IT CREATES JOBS. 
          YOU KNOW, I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          UH, ONE MORE FOR ME. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, THERE'S A VISION FOR SCALE. 
          NOW, OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TAILORED AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE INPUT. 
          BUT, UH, OUR VISION FOR SCALING IS CO STREAM. 
          NEIGHBORHOOD SHOWS USING SRT EN ENABLED VENUE PACKS, PERFORMANCES AT LOCAL VENUES THAT CAN BE STREAMED LIVE TO PUBLIC SPACES. 
          SO LET'S SAY HOLE IN THE WALL HAS A SHOW THAT'S THEN BROADCAST ACROSS THE CITY OR FAR OUT LOUNGE HAS A FESTIVAL THAT'S ALSO BROADCAST AT THE AIRPORT. 
          IT'S THIS MINGLING OF SILOED CIRCLES THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER, A LOT OF WHICH CAME TOGETHER AFTER POST COVID. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZED WE WERE STRONGER TOGETHER. 
          AND THIS ENABLES US TO DO THAT IN A MODERN STATE-OF-THE-ART WAY. 
          UM, COMMUNITY COM, UH, CURATED CREATIVE SPACES, NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOODS CAN TAKE PART IN CURATING LOCAL VIDEO CONTENT OR ARTISTS SHOWCASES. 
          THIS INVITES ENGAGEMENT FROM HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED AREAS AND CULTIVATES COMMUNITY PRIDE AND OWNERSHIP OF THE CULTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GREAT SPACES THAT CAN BE UTILIZED TO BROADCAST EVENTS. 
          UH, DORIS MILLER, YOU KNOW, MILLENNIUM YOUTH CENTER, YOU KNOW, UNDERUTILIZED SPACES THAT REALLY COULD USE. 
          SO THE MARKETING AND UH, THE MUSIC. 
          ALRIGHT, UH, ONE MORE SLIDE FOR ME. 
          UH, LITTLE CALL TO ACTION. 
          RECOGNIZE THIS MODEL AS A SCALABLE INFRASTRUCTURE VIEW. 
          SOUND SYNC AND VENUE PACKS AS LASTING CULTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT AS A ONE-OFF PROGRAM. 
          UM, TRYING TO FUTURE PROOF THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. 
          THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONCE AGAIN FOR US TO LEAD IN THIS SPACE AND, UH, TO BE THE, UH, MODEL THAT EVERYONE ELSE FOLLOWS. 
          I THINK WE'RE PRETTY GREAT IN THAT ASPECT IN A LOT OF WAYS. 
          AND THIS PUSHES THAT FORWARD. 
          UM, CARLOS, YOU WANNA ADD MORE? A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          SO WE ALL WORK IN PERFORMANCE. 
          WE'VE ALL DONE THIS STUFF FOR A WHILE, WHETHER IT'S BROADCAST, OWNING VENUES, PERFORMING AS A MUSICIAN, WE COME TO THIS ROOM, WE DON'T HAVE THE TECH FOR THE ROOM, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ERICA SAID, SHOW MUST GO ON. 
          SHOWTIME WAS SEVEN MINUTES. 
          DOWNBEAT FOR THIS GIG WAS SEVEN MINUTES PAST. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WERE PRETTY GOOD. 
          'CAUSE WE KNOW HOW TO PULL IT TOGETHER AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN ON TIME. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE DO NOW. 
          WHAT WE HAVE AT THE AIRPORT RIGHT NOW IS THE SHOW NOT GOING ON AT ALL. 
          WE HAVE MUSICIANS WHO ARE NOT GETTING PAID MONEY THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR MUSICIANS TO GET PAID TO PLAY THESE GIGS. 
          THAT'S NOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 
          THE WHOLE THING WAS SHUT DOWN. 
          WHAT THIS PROVIDES IS A SOLUTION. 
          NOW, THIS WAS PROPOSED BEFORE COVID AND DURING THE BEGINNING OF LOCKDOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT ANY SCREEN CAN BE AN ENDPOINT FOR A MUSICIAN TO BE PAID. 
          NOW I'M A HORN PLAYER. 
          I, MY GUILTY PLEASURE IS, UH, CHRISTMAS JAZZ. 
          JUST ADMITTED THAT ON RECORD. 
          AND I'VE PLAYED THE GIGS AT THE MESS METRO BUS STOP IN THE WINTER HERE. 
          I'M FROM MICHIGAN. 
          I KNOW NOT TO WEAR, I KNOW NOT TO USE THE METAL MOUTHPIECE 'CAUSE MY LIPS WILL GO WITH THE HORN IF IT'S TOO COLD. 
          . 
          SO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A GOOD TIME. 
          BUT IT'S LIKE WHEN WE'RE SEARCHING FOR GIGS, AND ESPECIALLY IF, UH, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, IF WE HAVE TO OFFSET BECAUSE SOMETHING DOESN'T GO THROUGH AND WE'VE GOTTA RESET THE SCOPE BECAUSE SOME SHOW'S NOT HAPPENING, SOME SORT OF LIVE PERFORMANCE ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN. 
          THIS REALLY PROVIDES A HUGE SOLUTION FOR THAT. 
          THIS IS MUSICIAN'S CONTENT BEING SUBSCRIBED TO BY THE CITY AND PUSHED OUT ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE, EVEN ONLINE. 
          SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A HUGE SOLUTION. 
          THIS WAS PITCHED TO THE AIRPORT, UM, AND IT CAME IN SECOND. 
          WE ALMOST GOT IT OUT OF 14. 
          AND IT WAS JUST US. 
          YEP. 
          AND THE COMPETING GROUP HAD 30 PEOPLE ON THEIR PRESENTATION, AND THEY WERE ASKED NEVER TO RETURN TO THE AIRPORT. 
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I WAS BROUGHT BACK IN TO PROVIDE COVERAGE AND, UH, THAT COVERAGE WAS ASKED TO CEASE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE MAIN STAGE AT THE AIRPORT THAT IS UNMONITORED BY BOTH INFORMATION SYSTEMS AND THE MUSIC CREW THERE. 
          UM, AND DURING THESE TIMES WHERE WE SEE LIVE PERFORMANCES GO DOWN AND MUSICIANS NOT MAKING MONEY THEY EXPECTED TO MAKE BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY BOOKED AT THAT VENUE, AT ALL THOSE VENUES, THIS IS THE KIND OF SOLUTION THAT WE NEED TO HELP PEOPLE GET PAID AND TO FUNNEL THAT MONEY DIRECTLY TO ARTISTS FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR CONTENT. 
          'CAUSE IF WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO HELP PEOPLE OUT IN NEED IN CRISIS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE CANCELING GIGS AT THE AIRPORT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GET PAID FOR THEIR CONTENT, FOR THEIR CREATIVITY, AND FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE WORLD. 
          AWESOME. 
          UM, I GUESS THIS IS TIME FOR QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, LOUIS, THANK YOU STEVE FOR, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING AND PRESENTING, UM, THIS HERE TODAY. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FANTASTIC TO SEE THAT THIS IS SUCH A, A FUTURE FORWARD WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. 
          UM, AND ALSO YOU'RE NOT IMMEDIATELY THROWING A DEPENDENCY BACK ON A HOT TAX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YOU ARE, YOU ARE KIND OF SHOWING SOLUTIONS THAT ARE, THAT COULD BE SELF-SUSTAINABLE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH THE ADS AND STUFF THAT YOU MENTIONED. 
          SO IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD, UH, I GUESS SUGGEST TO ALL PARTIES TO BE IN CONVERSATIONS AND SEE HOW WE COULD, UH, BRING FORWARD SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LIKE THIS AT THE AIRPORT, UH, OR CONTINUE RATHER IT'S THERE, BUT, BUT ACTUALLY MAINTAIN, UH, CONTINUITY AND BUILD ON IT RATHER THAN GOING BACKWARDS. 
          UM, WE ARE HEARING CONCERNS ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT MUSICIANS BEING, UH, THEIR GIGS BEING DROPPED AT THE AIRPORT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE, UH, AGENDA ITEMS THAT HAD STAFF PRESENTATION HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE NEXT, UH, COMMISSION MEETING, BUT FOR GOOD REASON. 
          UH, WE HAD A LOT OF TOPICS TO COVER TODAY. 
          UH, BUT I DO IN THIS CASE WANT TO COMMENT THAT, UH, IT IS, UH, VERY ESSENTIAL THAT, UH, CITY MAINTAIN BUSINESS AS USUAL AND NOT IMPACT BOOKINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE. 
          UH, WHEN WE ARE GOING THROUGH A, A TRANSITION, UH, OR A REORGANIZATIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONE THING I CAN SAY, I'VE, IN MY OWN LIFE BEEN PART OF A GAZILLION REORGANIZATION,  IN DIFFERENT FORUMS WHERE I'VE WORKED. 
          AND, UH, I WOULD REALLY REQUEST THE LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY TO COLLABORATE. 
          AND, UH, AS THINGS ARE BEING, UH, WORKED OUT FROM A REORGANIZATION PERSPECTIVE, UH, STILL MAINTAIN THE COLLABORATION OR I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY EXACTLY IS. 
          I'M NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW THAT. 
          BUT IT'S VERY ESSENTIAL THAT WE MAINTAIN BUSINESS AS USUAL AND THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT BEING HEARD, UH, BECAUSE OF REORGANIZATION THAT ARE, UH, IN, IN PLAY. 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT IS A REQUEST TO THE LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, OF COURSE, UH, I THINK THIS IS JUST, I MEAN, TO ME IT JUST LOOKS BRILLIANT. 
          UH, WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE AND WHAT, UH, LOOKS LIKE COULD BE DONE, UH, ON A GO FORWARD BASIS. 
          SO I WOULD, UH, REALLY, UH, SUGGEST THAT WE KEEP THE CONVERSATIONS GOING AND ALSO SEE HOW WE CAN BRING THINGS LIKE THIS MORE IN PLAY. 
          UH, IT IS FUTURE FORWARD. 
          TECHNOLOGY IS IMPORTANT. 
          UH, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO USE TECHNOLOGY FOR, UH, UH, BUILDING OUR MUSIC ECONOMY. 
          UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST REVERTING BACK TO OLD MODELS, UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FORWARD. 
          SO THANK YOU, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE. 
          I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO, UH, THE COMMISSION. 
          DON'T BE SURE. 
          NOW, COMMISSIONER, UH, ENGLAND. 
          I LOVE ALL OF THAT. 
          I DON'T NEED THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I LOVE ALL OF THAT. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          UH, I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, AND THE WORK THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY PUT IN BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE IS WONDERFUL. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE I CAN SAY SOMETHING THAT, JUST TO EXPOUND UPON WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW, IS THAT MAYBE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED AND DIDN'T HAPPEN AND NOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE RESIDUAL EFFECTS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, PART OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS THAT DON'T WORK AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED EXACTLY. 
          AND FIXED WITHIN THAT. 
          UM, PEOPLE NOT GETTING PAID IS A PROBLEM, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S THE BASELINE HERE, RIGHT? YES. 
          IS THAT OPERATIONALLY PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING PAID, LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S STABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT. 
          UM, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YEP. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A MODEL, 
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ONE OF WHICH TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO FIX THAT PROBLEM AND OFFER TO A PLATFORM FOR IT TO CONTINUE TO GROW. 
          IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YEP. 
          AND SO THE INSPIRATION FROM THIS, UH, WAS DURING, DURING THE BID PROCESS FOR GETTING THESE BASICALLY APPLE TVS OUT TO THE TV SO WE COULD CAST ALL THIS STUFF OUT THERE, THAT WAS THE SAME TIME THAT A MUSICIANS GROUP IN AUSTIN THAT WAS STARTED BY A REAL ESTATE PERSON, WAS RALLYING MUSICIANS TO CITY HALL, TO, UH, ASK FOR MONEY FOR THE VENUES, WHICH WE NEEDED, UM, RATHER THAN THEMSELVES. 
          SO WHEN WE SAW PEOPLE NOT GETTING PAID WHO WERE EITHER WORKING SHOWS OR PERFORMING SHOWS, HOW CAN WE FIX THIS? YEAH. 
          THAT WAS THE IMPETUS. 
          THE, I, THE HOW CAN WE GET MONEY TO PEOPLE FOR THEIR PERFORMANCES. 
          THIS WAS ALREADY ON DECK. 
          IT WAS A FACE PALM, IT WAS OBVIOUS. 
          THIS IS RIGHT THERE, IT'S IN PLACE, READY TO GO RIGHT NOW AT THE AIRPORT. 
          WE HAVE ALL THE INGREDIENTS. 
          AND WHEN IT WAS, WHEN IT WAS PUT IN, THE, THE DEAL WAS IT'S SO WE CAN EXPAND THROUGH THE TUNNEL INTO THE NEW TERMINAL, BUT THE MASTER PLAN FOR IT, WHEN I PROPOSED IT WAS THE HOPE THAT SOMEDAY THE CITY WOULD PICK IT UP AND USE IT EVERYWHERE. 
          NOW WALLS AND, SORRY, THINK ABOUT THIS. 
          IN ART PUBLIC PLACES, ART PUBLIC PLACES, AS WE GET TO A VIDEO WALL OR ANY SORT OF ENDPOINT, EVEN AS WE LOOK AT THE HOTEL TAX, UM, REQUIREMENTS, MAYBE PROPOSING TO GET SOME OF THESE SCREENS IN THOSE HOTELS, THAT KIND OF THING, TO GET THIS THING OUT THERE AND WORKING WITH VISIT AUSTIN, THERE'S ALL ALL SORTS OF POSSIBILITIES. 
          BUT BEING ABLE TO COMBINE ON A SCREEN, BOTH THE PERFORMANCE INFORMATION FROM PIO, SO THIS WOULD BE PUBLIC INFORMATION MARKETING FROM THE CITY, FROM THE AIRPORT, WHATEVER. 
          THAT'S HUGE. 
          AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE VISUAL ART REPRESENTED AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT WORK TOGETHER THAT CAN BE WORK, THAT CAN BE AN END POINT, A PORTAL TO THE CITY, ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. 
          LIKE I SAID, I, I LOVE IT. 
          UH, BUT, AND PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHY AREN'T PEOPLE GETTING PAID? MM. 
          SO I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S BEING YEP. 
          THAT YOU'RE COMING WITH A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM, WHICH I THINK IS, HOLD ON. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THE QUESTION THERE, AND ALSO GOES LIKE, WHERE'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT? THIS IS A PRESENTATION ABOUT TECHNOLOGY IN THE AIRPORT, . 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THE RECORD ABOUT A REORGANIZATION OR THE PAIN POINTS OF THAT, BUT THAT'S THE SITUATION AS IT IS. 
          UH, GOTCHA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU OFFLINE ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          AND ALSO, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. 
          YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND ONE THING I I DO WANNA SAY IS, UM, NOTHING IS BROKEN PERMANENTLY RIGHT NOW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, NOTHING CAN'T BE UNDONE. 
          NOTHING IS FAR AWAY FROM A SOLUTION. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT. 
          YOU KNOW, THE HARDEST THING IS DONE. 
          THIS TECHNOLOGY IS NOT EASY. 
          THEY DON'T MAKE STEVES ON A, THEY DON'T COME ON A TREE. 
          BUT WE GOT LUCKY. 
          HE CHOSE AUSTIN AND HE CHOSE TO BUILD THIS, AND HE CHOSE TO BUILD THIS WITH PASSION AND MUSIC. 
          WE JUST NEED TO USE IT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND WE KEEP BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A NO BRAINER. 
          WE WANT, THIS IS A TECH CITY. 
          THIS IS A MUSIC CITY. 
          IT REALLY IS. 
          BUT IT'S ALSO A TECH CITY. 
          THIS IS A MARRIAGE OF BOTH, BUT THAT WE WANNA UNLEASH ON THE WORLD IN A VERY NON-THREATENING WAY. 
          AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE TECHNOLOGY, IT'S SUPER EASY. 
          IT'S PLATFORM INDEPENDENT, IT'S AN IDEA. 
          AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TECHNOLOGY STANDARDIZED AT THE AIRPORT. 
          THE CITY COULD EASILY PICK THAT UP. 
          UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER UHLER. 
          UH, HI GUYS. 
          THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          WHERE CAN I SEE THE GESTURING FEST? IS IT ARCHIVED SOMEWHERE? OH, YEAH, WE'VE GOT ALL THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE CAN SET IT TO YOU. 
          CAN I GO ON YOUTUBE OR SOMETHING AND FIND THAT? YEAH. 
          I'M, UH, STEVE AT STREAK SYSTEMS. S-T-R-E-A-K SYSTEMS PLURAL.COM. 
          UH, THAT'S, THAT'LL BE ON THE RECORD A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THAT. 
          WHAT IS, UH, STEVE S-T-E-V-E AT STREAK. 
          S-T-R-E-A-K, SYSTEMS PLURAL.COM. 
          YEAH, WE'VE GOT THE FULL DEMO THAT, UH, WE HAD ORIGINALLY DONE WITH THE AIRPORT. 
          LOOK TO CHECK IT OUT. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY COMMENT ON, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ENGLAND'S, UH, UH, QUESTION. 
          WE DID REQUEST, UH, STAFF TO PRESENT A COMPLETE UPDATE IN AUGUST ON, UH, THE TOPIC, UH, 
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OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S HAPPENING, HAPPENING WITH MUSIC BOOKINGS AT THE AIRPORT. 
          AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE EXPECTING TO HEAR FULLY. 
          I DON'T WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT THEM IN A SPOT RIGHT NOW IN ANSWERING, UH, UH, THAT, TO THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC. 
          BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS, UM, OBVIOUSLY NOT AS DILIGENT AS YOU AND I DID BRING UP THE REORG. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AUGUST IS WHEN, UH, WE ARE HOPING THAT WE WILL HEAR ABOUT SOLUTIONS AND WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE TO, UH, ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, START FROM SCRATCH. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          I BELIEVE STAFF'S ALREADY, AND ACME IS ALREADY WORKING ON THIS ISSUE. 
          UH, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A COMPLETE UPDATE AND, UH, AUGUST. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, GREAT. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? OH, YES. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          THANKS. 
          UH, THANK YOU, UH, BOTH FOR, UH, THE PRESENTATION AS YOU, I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY NO SECRET, BUT I REQUESTED THAT, UH, THEY BE HERE. 
          I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA, UM, FOR JUST ANOTHER STREAM, UH, UH, STREAM, REVENUE STREAM FOR, FOR ARTISTS, UH, PARTICULARLY IN, UH, THE 21ST CENTURY. 
          SO IT'S, IT, IT'S, WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO AS A COMMISSION IS, IS ALLOW FOR ARTISTS TO LICENSE THEIR CONTENT BASICALLY AND GET PAID FOR IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND THE, LIKE, THERE'S NOTHING, AGAIN, THEY'VE ALREADY SAID IT A FEW TIMES, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOTTA, UH, BE BUILT. 
          THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOTTA, IT'S ALREADY THERE. 
          ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW THE MONEY'S GONNA FLOW, GET THE AGREEMENTS TOGETHER, GET AN R-F-P-R-F-Q PROCESS, ALL THAT CITY. 
          I LOVE THE ACRONYM STUFF. 
          UM, AND, UM, FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GREAT, UH, THING. 
          AND THE TECHNOLOGY AT THE AIRPORT IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE. 
          THE AIRPORT IS ALSO INCREDIBLE. 
          I PLATE THERE MYSELF MONTH OVER MONTH FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UM, AND IT WAS JACKIE'S FIRST PAYING GIG YEAH. 
          WHEN SHE WAS 17 YEARS OLD. 
          YEAH. 
          NANCY COPLAN, SHOUT OUT AND IT IS, YEAH. 
          NANCY, THANK YOU NANCY, FOR, FOR, FOR HELPING TO START, UH, THE MUSIC PROGRAM. 
          AND ALSO THANK YOU A BIG, HUGE THANK YOU TO MICHAEL PENNICK FOR, UM, ALL OF THE HARD WORK FOR 13 YEARS THAT HE HAS PUT IN, UM, TO THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, I CAN ALSO SAY THAT FOR TWO YEARS THAT I PLAYED AT THE AIRPORT, THERE WAS NEVER A TIME THAT HE DIDN'T COME AND SHAKE MY HAND. 
          HE WAS NEVER TIRED. 
          UM, AND HE WAS BASICALLY ONE OF THE HARDWORKING WORLD, ONE OF THE MOST HARDWORKING GUYS THAT I KNOW, UM, STILL IS. 
          AND THAT THE TECHNICIANS THAT PRO PROVIDED THE SOUND AT THE AIRPORT, I WAS, THEY WERE ALWAYS WAITING ON ME. 
          SO, UM, FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THEY ARE THE MOST PROFESSIONAL TEAM. 
          UM, ONE OF, WERE THE MOST PROFESSIONAL TEAM THAT, UM, THAT I'VE COME ACROSS AND I'VE DONE SOME PRETTY LEGIT SHOWS. 
          SO, THAT BEING SAID, UM, IS THERE, UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS WANNA ADD? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, THAT YOU, THAT YOU ALL WANNA, UM, SAY, SPEAK FROM THE HEART OF ANYTHING? I'VE, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION FOR LIKE TWO STRAIGHT MONTHS, SO IF THERE'S A DETAIL I LEFT OUT, IT'S DEEP IN MY BRAIN, YOU KNOW, AND, BUT THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE'S A QUESTION THAT POPS UP, UH, I'M AVAILABLE IN MY, MY EMAIL, MY PHONE NUMBER'S ON THE PRESENTATION. 
          I LOVE TALKING ABOUT THIS STUFF. 
          ULTIMATELY, THIS PUSHES US FORWARD. 
          I DON'T WANNA BECOME A CITY THAT ISN'T DEFINED BY MUSIC. 
          I WANT TO BE A CITY THAT DEFINES MUSIC FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND I, I ALSO, THERE, THERE'S, I I DO, UH, OH, THEY'RE CLOSING THE BUILDING ON US. 
           JUST I KNOW, RIGHT? I, I I WANT TO, I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A STAFF UP, UH, BRIEFING UPDATE NEXT MONTH. 
          THE BAROMETER FOR ME IS GOING TO BE HOW MANY MUSICIANS ARE PLAYING MONTHLY AT THE AIRPORT? UM, SO FAR I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE BACK UP TO 20 MUSICIANS A MONTH, AND THE STANDARD BASICALLY IS AROUND 27 TO 30 A MONTH. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, UM, COLLECTIVELY, I HOPE, UH, WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THINGS AND EVEN GO BEYOND THAT WHEN NEW STAGES AND ALL THAT STUFF ARE BUILT. 
          AND THIS IS A HUGE PART OF IT. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, YES, IT'S BEEN A SETBACK, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT SOME SERIOUS EXPANSION AS THINGS CONTINUE TO EXPAND AT THE AIRPORT. 
          SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR, AS THE AIRPORT EXPANDS PHYSICALLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND AND I, I REALLY HOPE THAT THE MUSICIANS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED ARE MADE WHOLE IN SOME WAY OR THE OTHER, UM, AS THE PROGRAM BUILDS BACK UP. 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, LOUIS. 
          AWESOME. 
          STEVE, THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. 
          UM, 
          [7. ACME funding guidelines update by Angela Means, Director and Morgan Messick,  Assistant Director, Office of Arts, Culture, Music & Entertainment (ACME).]
VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT TOPIC FOR US TODAY. 
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UM, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS A CME ACME FUNDING GUIDELINES, UPDATE BY ANGELA MEANS DIRECTOR IN MORGAN MESSICK, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OFFICE. 
          OF, UM, A CME, ARTS, CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? GOOD EVENING. 
          IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. 
          I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE NEWLY CREATED ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          WE ARE FOUR MONTHS IN A COUPLE DAYS AGO. 
          SO IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE BACK WITH YOU ALL. 
          UM, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TODAY IS TO TALK ABOUT A UPDATE ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, AS WELL AS TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR ENHANCED FUNDING PROGRAMS. FIRST, LET ME JUST SAY THIS. 
          I NEED TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS PARTNERED WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, THAT IS ACME STAFF, THAT IS ARTS COMMISSION MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS HAVE REALLY PULLED UP TO THE TABLE AND LOOKED FOR WAYS TO ENHANCE AND IMAGINE WHERE WE'RE GOING WHEN IT COMES TO ARTS, CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          I LOVE THE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, A LOT OF REFERENCE TO LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. 
          WE'RE THE BEST HERE AND WE'RE THE BEST THERE. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE IN AUSTIN FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS AROUND THE COUNTRY. 
          WE ARE KNOWN FOR WHAT WE DO, BUT INTERNALLY, WE KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. 
          AND I AM SO EXCITED THAT THE, UH, CITY CREATED THIS OFFICE BECAUSE OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, INTERNALLY, WE HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE HAVE BEGUN TO IMAGINE WHERE WE'RE GOING IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. 
          AND I AM TRULY EXCITED. 
          SO I COULDN'T EVEN START THE PRESENTATION WITHOUT LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE TRULY AT A STATE HERE IN AUSTIN WHERE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY LIVE UP TO THE NAME THAT WE HAVE PUT OUT THERE FOR DECADES. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF QUICK HANGING FRUITS AS WE LISTEN TO PRESENTATIONS, AS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT. 
          THOSE ARE EASY FIXES, EASY SOLUTIONS, AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS. 
          AND SO AS WE THE DEPARTMENT MOVES THROUGH, YOU ALL WILL BEGIN TO SEE THE IMPACT OF YOUR GREAT WORK. 
          AND IT TRULY HAS BEEN A COMMUNITY-WIDE EFFORT. 
          SO I WANTED TO START WITH A BIG THANK YOU. 
          I WILL SAY THIS. 
          WE ALL KNOW THE ARTS AND CULTURE ARE NOT OPTIONAL. 
          IT'S ESSENTIAL. 
          WE ALL LIVE IT. 
          WE ARE DEDICATED TO THAT. 
          BUT IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT AS TO WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO PRIORITIZE THE ARTS AND CULTURE IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. 
          WE, YOU'LL SEE ON MY SLIDE HERE, I SAY AUSTIN'S CREATIVE HEARTBEAT. 
          WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE. 
          WE ARE THE RHYTHM THAT MOVES US, THE STORIES THAT SHAPE US AND THE SOUL THAT MAKES AUSTIN UNMISTAKABLY. 
          AUSTIN, ARE YOU GONNA HELP ME WITH THIS SLIDE? I GOT TOO EXCITED. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THIS SLIDE IS SOMETHING I LIKE TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT. 
          IT IS REALLY THE PROFOUND IMPACT OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          YOU'LL SEE NATIONALLY, AUSTIN IS RECOGNIZED AS A CULTURAL POWERHOUSE. 
          WE RANK AMONG THE TOP 10 MOST CREATIVE CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES FOR CULTURAL VIBRANCY AND CREATIVE OUTPUT PER CAPITA. 
          THAT IS NOT BY ACCIDENT. 
          IT'S THE RESULT OF DECADES OF VISION, POLICY, GRASSROOTS, CREATIVITY, AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENT. 
          THE NUMBERS TELL A POWERFUL STORY OVER $7 BILLION, 7.3 BILLION. 
          THAT'S THE IMPACT, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE HERE IN TEXAS. 
          THIS IS NOT A SIDE STORY OR A CITY'S FUTURE. 
          IT'S A CORNERSTONE. 
          BUT THE ARTS DO MORE THAN DRIVE OUR ECONOMY. 
          THEY BOOST MENTAL HEALTH, INCREASE GRADUATION RATES, IMPROVE WELLNESS, FOSTER INCLUSION, AND CREATE DEEP CONNECTIONS ACROSS COMMUNITIES. 
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AND WHEN PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH THE ARTS, THEY EXPRESS EXPERIENCES THAT IMPROVE THE PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL WELLBEING, AND THEY HAVE A DEEPER SENSE OF COMMUNITY. 
          I ALWAYS STOP HERE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE ALL GONE THROUGH AS A COMMUNITY THROUGH COVID, WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH OUR, JUST OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THIS NEED TO BE CONNECTED. 
          THE THE NEED TO BE BACK IN A SOCIAL SETTING. 
          ARTS AND CULTURE GIVES OUR COMMUNITY THAT WHEN WE SUPPORT THE ARTS, WE SUPPORT THE WELLBEING OF OUR ENTIRE CITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND I'M TRYING, I'M NOT GONNA GO TOO LONG FOR Y'ALL BECAUSE MORGAN MESSICK IS GOING TO COME, UH, BEHIND ME WITH A LOT OF DETAILS HERE. 
          AS I SAID EARLIER, ACME IS A RESULT OF DECADES OF ADVOCACY. 
          OUR COMMUNITY CALLED LOUDLY  FOR THE ARTS TO BE TREATED AS ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND THE CITY ANSWERED IN 2025 AND FEBRUARY. 
          ACME OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A TOUGH FUNDING CLIMATE. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL WHAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH. 
          THIS HAS BEEN TOUGH. 
          WE'VE MET WITH THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, TRADITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES RATHER THAT BE GRANTS, DONATIONS, PRIVATE INVESTMENTS IN BANKS, THEY ALL BEGIN TO SHRINK. 
          THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS ONE OF THE ONLY FUNDING SOURCES, UH, THAT OUR COMMUNITY RELIES ON. 
          OUR MISSION IS VERY CLEAR, AND THAT'S TO PROTECT, INVEST, AND ELEVATE THE SOUL OF AUSTIN. 
          ART, MUSIC AND CULTURAL REPRESENTS THE HEART OF AUSTIN. 
          AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A UNIQUE VIBE AND IT IS THERE FOR US TO RETAIN NOT ONLY OUR LOCALS, BUT TO ATTRACT OUR VISITORS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS? FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN QUITE A LONG TIME. 
          IT'S BEEN FOUR MONTHS. 
          WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE LISTENED FIRST, ACTED SECOND, BUILD TRUST THROUGHOUT. 
          WE, BECAUSE WE STARTED TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITY, WE KNEW THAT THEY NEEDED US TO LISTEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WERE ALL EXCITED ABOUT, THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. 
          WE ESTABLISHED A COMMUNITY CENTERED APPROACH, PRIORITIZING TRANSPARENCY, ACCESS, ACTIVE LISTENING AND AVAILABILITY. 
          WE STOOD UP FOR THE ARTISTS, I WANNA SAY THAT WAS DAY ONE, ADVOCATING DURING THE AIRPORT EXPANSION IN THE CONVENTION CENTER, REDEVELOPMENT THAT TO PROTECT PUBLIC ART AND CULTURAL LEGACIES. 
          WE DUG INTO RESEARCH ANALYZING LOCAL HISTORICAL DATA, BENCHMARKING NATIONAL STANDARDS TO GUIDE EVERY DECISION WE MADE. 
          AND WE LAUNCHED THE CREATIVE RESET, WHICH IS A YEAR LONG STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORT TO REBUILD OUR ARTS ECOSYSTEM WITH INTENTION AND IMPACT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE CREATIVE RESET IS OUR DEPARTMENT'S SIGNATURE INITIATIVE. 
          THIS YEAR, YOU'LL HEAR US REFERENCE IT OFTEN. 
          IT'S A FULL STRATEGIC REBOOT, AND IT'S TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS, HOW WE FUND, UH, OUR PROGRAMS, HOW WE FUND OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, AND HOW WE SUPPORT THE ECOSYSTEM IN AN EQUITABLE AND SUSTAINABLE WAY. 
          OUR KEY FIRST STEP IN THIS RESET WAS TO ENHANCE THE FUNDING PROGRAMS AND MAKE THEM MORE RESPONSIVE, INCLUSIVE, AND ACCESSIBLE. 
          AND I WILL SAY, THIS SAID IT BEFORE, WE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN TOOK FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS FROM FIVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WE BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER. 
          WE'RE TALKING TODAY ABOUT THE CULTURAL FUNDING, BUT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CULTURAL FACILITIES. 
          WE HAVE ALL OF OUR MUSEUMS. WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS, THE LARGE SPECIAL EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT'S SOUTH BY ACL TRAIL OF LIGHTS. 
          WE HAVE MANY THINGS THAT THE CITY THAT OUR DEPARTMENT NOW IS, UH, STEWARDS OVER. 
          AND AS WE TALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF OUR AREAS, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO LEVERAGE DIFFERENT FUNDING, LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM. 
          LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN CREATIVES NEED IN 2025, WHAT THEY NEEDED BACK IN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS OFFICE IS DIFFERENT, WE'RE A DIFFERENT CITY. 
          AND SO IT IS WHY WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE TRUE NEED IS FOR TODAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE SAID WHAT WE DO. 
          WE  THIS LAST FOUR MONTHS HAS BEEN SOMETHING ELSE. 
          WE HAD A SURVEY OUT THERE THAT WITHIN THE FIRST THREE WEEKS, WE HAD OVER 1200 RESPONSES. 
          THIS IS, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE HAD OVER 10 FOCUS GROUPS. 
          WE HAD TWO 
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CITYWIDE, UH, LISTENING SESSIONS WITH ALMOST 200, UH, ATTENDEES. 
          WE HAVE PERSONALLY SAT DOWN WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE. 
          ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO ACME. 
          WE'VE MADE SPACE, WE'VE LISTENED, WE'VE TAKEN, UM, NOTE AT WHAT'S NEEDED. 
          AS I SAID BEFORE, VERY PROUD OF THIS WORK. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE COMMUNITY WAS INCREDIBLY CLEAR AND HONEST WITH US, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATED. 
          THEY TOLD US WHAT WAS WORKING AND WHAT WAS NOT VERY HONEST ABOUT THAT. 
          THEY ASKED TO TACKLE AFFORDABILITY, ACCESS TO SPACE, AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE, OUR EXISTING PROCESSES. 
          THERE ISN'T A PLACE THAT I GO WHERE I DON'T HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITY THAT SAYS WE NEED TO FIX OUR SYSTEM TO MAKE IT EASIER AT A BETTER EXPERIENCE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. 
          YOU'LL SEE HERE, UM, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT OUR, OUR COMMUNITY STATED. 
          AFFORDABILITY, REMOVING COST BARRIERS, PROCESS BEING MORE TRANSPARENT. 
          TRANSPARENT. 
          FUNDING, SUSTAINABILITY. 
          OUR ARTS, OUR, OUR OUR CREATIVES NEED SUSTAINABILITY. 
          AND SO I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT VENUE ACCESS. 
          WE'RE HEARING A LOT OF NEED OUT THERE. 
          UH, EQUITY AND DIVERSITY IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AWARENESS, COMMUNICATION, AND OUTREACH. 
          SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HEARD THOSE, THIS WAS THE TOP 10, UH, VOICES THAT WE HEARD. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL HONOR CULTURAL, LEGACY, SIMPLIFY APPLICATIONS, ENSURE FAIRNESS, SUPPORT NEW VOICES, AND BUILD TRANSPARENCY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I KNOW THIS IS WHAT Y'ALL REALLY WANNA SEE. 
          THE PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS, WHAT WE LOOKED AT, WE TOOK A LOOK AT OUR THRIVE ELEVATE NEXUS AND OTHERS. 
          FOR THRIVE, WE ENHANCE THE LONG-TERM GROWTH. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE FOCUSED ON THEIR LONG-TERM GROWTH AND EXPANDED A COHORT MODEL FOR ELEVATE COMMUNITY-CENTERED PROJECTS WITH IMPROVED APPLICATION ACCESS. 
          NEXUS NOW INCLUDES MICROGRANTS AND REDUCED ENTRY BARRIERS. 
          UH, I'LL LET MORGAN KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND THESE THREE, UM, GRANTS. 
          NEXT, NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE TOOK A LOOK AT OUR HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANTS. 
          WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE IS THIS, UM, WAS AN OPTION. 
          AND SO WE KNOW WE HAVE WORK TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATING WHAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE OUT THERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          BUT WE LOOKED AT OUR HERITAGE PRESERVATION, OF COURSE, WE LOOKED AT OUR AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND AND OUR CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          ALL OF THIS WORK THAT WE DID OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS STARTED WITH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, BUT WE ALSO PULLED THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS, UM, OF FEEDBACK THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAD ALREADY HEARD FROM OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THAT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE PULLED, THAT WE LOOKED BACK. 
          SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID NOT FORGET THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT PROCESS. 
          SO ALSO WE LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL, IN ADDITION TO THE FOCUS GROUPS, THE ONE-ON-ONES, THE SURVEYS, AND ALL OF THE OTHERS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD. 
          APPLICATIONS ARE SIMPLER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE. 
          WE'RE ADDED, UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, MICROGRANTS AND FLEXIBLE FUNDING TIERS. 
          YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT. 
          WE'VE CREATED CLEARER EVALUATION CRITERIA AND FEEDBACK MECHANISMS. WE'VE MADE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS, NONPROFITS FOR-PROFITS, COLLECTIVES AND PROMOTERS, MENTORSHIP PROGRAM FOR FIRST TIME APPLICANTS, A UNIVERSAL APPEALS PROCESS. 
          AND WE ALSO PRIORITIZE OUR INTERNAL PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. 
          YOU ALL KIND OF TALKED TOUCHED ABOUT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TODAY. 
          THERE IS A NEED FOR US AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS WORK, NOT TO, UH, NOT TO MISS OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE OUR INTERNAL PROCESSES FOR THE FUTURE. 
          NEXT SLIDE HERE. 
          I WANTED TO JUST SHARE. 
          ACME IS COMMITTED TO ACCESS FOR ALL WHO CAN APPLY INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS. 
          AS I SAID EARLIER, COLLECTIVES, MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS, NON-PROFITS AND CREATIVE BUSINESSES, BOTH LEGACY AND IMMERSION ORGANIZATIONS, PROGRAMS, PRIORITIZING INCLUSIVITY, ENSURING ALL COMMUNITIES HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ARTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          HERE'S MY FUNDING SLIDE. 
          IT'S 
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JUST GOOD TO KIND OF TAKE A NOTE ON HOW WE ARE FUNDED. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO OUR PROGRAMS. UH, WE HAVE DIVERSE FUNDING. 
          UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE HOTEL OCCUPANCY, TAX FUNDS, UH, AND THOSE FUNDS ARE NEXUS, ELEVATE, THRIVE, AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND AND HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANTS GENERAL FUND FUNDS, OUR CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND BONDS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS SUPPORT OUR ARTS IN PUBLIC PLACES. 
          PROGRAM. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD? WE STILL GOT QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO. 
          WE, AS EXCITED AS WE ARE TO BE AT THIS POINT. 
          WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT MULTIPLE THINGS. 
          WE'VE BROKEN IT UP INTO FOUR PHASES. 
          AGAIN, STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          WE NEED TO BUILD OUR FIVE YEAR ROADMAP. 
          AS EXCITED AS WE ALL ARE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR AUSTIN. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PARTNER WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND DEVELOP WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          PROGRAM EVALUATION, REVIEWING ALL OF OUR INVESTMENTS, OUR CULTURAL FACILITIES. 
          THEY'RE ALL EXCITED AND THEY'RE WAITING FOR US TO MAKE OUR ROUNDS TO THEM. 
          THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAXIMIZING THOSE WONDERFUL FACILITIES AND MUSEUMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR POSSESSION RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT, SEEKING NEW FUNDING AND PARK PARTNERSHIPS. 
          I'LL TELL YOU, THIS IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE MODEL. 
          WE AS A CITY, WE DO A WONDERFUL JOB PROVIDING SUPPORT, FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WHAT I'M HEARING, AS I SAID EARLIER, IS AUSTIN IS A WONDERFUL CITY. 
          WE'VE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES THAT HAVE MOVED HERE. 
          WE ARE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO LOOK AT WAYS TO SUPPORT THE ARTS HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT. 
          UM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US TO REALLY CREATE THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. 
          SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT OTHER, UH, FUNDING SOURCES. 
          WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT OTHER CITIES. 
          THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO FUND ARTS AND CULTURE, AND WE ARE GOING TO EXPLORE ALL OF THEM. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT WORK. 
          AND OF COURSE, IMPLEMENTATION, ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SAYING. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO OUR VISION IS CLEAR. 
          A CITY WHERE EVERY PERSON IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ACCESS TO CREATIVE OPPORTUNITIES AND CULTURAL EXPRESSION. 
          WE'VE HEARD, WE'VE HEARD OUR COMMUNITY LOUD AND CLEAR. 
          WE'VE ACTED, BUT THE WORK, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IS NOT DONE. 
          PLEASE, LET'S CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER TO BUILD THE MOST VIBRANT, EQUITABLE, AND SUSTAINABLE CREATIVE CAPITAL IN THE WORLD. 
          TOGETHER WE CAN ENSURE THAT ARTS REMAIN NOT JUST A PART OF AUSTIN, BUT THE HEART OF AUSTIN. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK, ALL OF YOUR WORKING GROUP WORK, ALL OF YOUR CALLS, ALL OF THE, UH, ONE-ON-ONES, ALL OF THE FOCUS GROUP WORK, ALL OF THE WORK. 
          IT REALLY DOES IT, IT MATTERED. 
          AND WE ARE TAKING THAT INTO, UM, CONSIDERATION. 
          WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MS. MORGAN SO SHE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS. 
          ALL RIGHT, SHELBY'S GETTING THAT PULLED UP FOR ME. 
          UM, I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF. 
          I'M MORGAN MESSICK. 
          I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, AND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO SHELBY FOR HELPING, UM, BUILD MY SLIDES TODAY AND FOR RUNNING THIS SLIDE DECK. 
          SHE DOES IT ALL MY FRIENDS. 
          OKAY, SO WE JUST HEARD FROM DIRECTOR MEANS ON OUR PATH AS A DEPARTMENT AND OUR PATH TOWARDS ENHANCING OUR FUNDING PROGRAMS. AND I'M GONNA JUST WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE ENHANCED PROGRAMS FOR AUSTIN LIFE MUSIC FUND AND FOR CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY, AS WELL AS SOME HIGH LEVEL LOOKS AT HOW WE ARE BRINGING PARITY ACROSS OUR PROGRAMS WITH A STREAMLINED GUIDELINE DOCUMENT AND THROUGH SOME OF OUR PROCESSES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO OUR FULL DRAFT OF THE, UM, ACME FUNDING PROGRAM GUIDELINES. 
          SHELBY, UH, PRINTED THOSE OUT FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE. 
          THEY ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AS WELL AS, UM, A MORE HIGHER LEVEL EXECUTIVE SUMMARY DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE CALLING WHAT'S NEW. 
          UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AT THE TOP OF THAT. 
          AND THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES A ONE PAGER ON THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT'S NEW, FOLLOWED BY GRANULAR DETAILS ON WHAT WAS THE FORMER VERSION OF EACH PROGRAM AND WHAT'S NEW, AND A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON CHARTS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          BOTH OF THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ONLINE@PUBLICINPUT.COM 
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SLASH THE CREATIVE RESET, WHICH WE'LL SHARE LINKED HERE. 
          UM, THE LINKS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE BACKUP AS WELL. 
          AND, UH, WE'LL JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHERE Y'ALL CAN FIND THOSE TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACCESSIBLE. 
          SHELBY, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST GONNA START WITH THAT. 
          WHAT'S NEW FOR THE FUNDING PROGRAMS? SO, UM, THERE WERE MANY THEMES THAT EMERGED THROUGHOUT OUR PROCESS OF IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DIRECTOR MEANS HIGHLIGHTED A LOT OF THOSE REALLY ELOQUENTLY. 
          WE HAVE BUCKETED THOSE INTO A COUPLE OF, UM, HIGH LEVEL LOOKS FOR THE THINGS THAT HAVE IMPACTED A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE. 
          SO WHAT'S NEW UNIFIED FUNDING GOALS AND IMPROVED USER EXPERIENCE. 
          SO BRINGING OUR PROGRAMS TOGETHER, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SIMILAR APPLICANTS ACROSS ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO INCREASE, UM, CREATE A IMPROVED USER EXPERIENCE, AND ALSO TO JUST MAKE THE INFORMATION MORE DIGESTIBLE. 
          AND AGAIN, TO BRING PARITY TO HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING WHAT ARE THE GOALS OF THE DEPARTMENT, HOW ARE WE MEASURING THOSE GOALS, AND HOW CAN YOU SEE THAT ACROSS THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM INSTEAD OF EMBEDDED INSIDE EACH INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM. 
          UM, SO SOME OF THE WAYS YOU'LL SEE THAT IS THROUGH FAMILIAR GRANT PROGRAMS THAT ARE ENHANCED. 
          YOU WILL SEE A NEW GUIDELINE FORMAT, WHICH CREATES A SET, A SINGLE SET OF FUNDING PROGRAM GUIDELINES FOR THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE APPLICATION IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE LONG CENTER. 
          WE HAVE BOBBY GARZA HERE TODAY, UM, AVAILABLE TO ALSO SUPPORT ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT HOW WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL. 
          WE HAVE CREATED FUNDING PRIORITIES THAT ARE MORE CLEARLY DEFINED TO SHOW THE FOCUS OF OUR WORK. 
          AND WE ARE ENHANCING TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS, BOTH BY GOING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND CREATING A DASHBOARD@PUBLICINPUT.COM SLASH THE CREATIVE RESET, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, AS WELL AS FUTURE INFORMATION AS WE CONTINUE ON THIS RESET AND PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WE ALSO HAVE BUCKETED SOME OF OUR WHAT'S NEW INFORMATION INTO ELIGIBILITY, SCORING, EVALUATION AND GRANT AWARDS. 
          SO THAT'S THE BULK OF OUR PROGRAMS, RIGHT? SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE WE DOING, WHO IS IT FOR? HOW MUCH CAN I HAVE? THIS IS IT. 
          SO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE HAVE CHANGED AS WE WORKED TOWARDS, UH, CREATING PROGRAMS THAT GROUP TOGETHER, SIMILAR APPLICANTS IN AN ELIGIBILITY CATEGORY. 
          AND AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS TO NOT HAVE A NONPROFIT WHO OPERATES A CREATIVE SPACE COMPETING IN THE SAME BUCKET OF MONEY WITH A NONPROFIT WHO DOES NOT OPERATE A CREATIVE SPACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF OVERHEAD THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS A REALLY POPULAR THEME THROUGHOUT OUR ENGAGEMENT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REFLECTED IN THESE NEW GUIDELINES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS ADOPTED A UNIVERSAL APPEALS PROCESS. 
          UM, WE HAD APPEALS PROCESSES IN SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE UNIFYING. 
          WE ARE WORKING TO STRENGTHEN OUR POLICIES TO PREVENT THINGS LIKE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, DOUBLE DIPPING, AND ENSURE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS TO INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS. 
          DIRECTOR MEANS. 
          AND MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESSES THAT WE ARE WORKING ON INTERNALLY. 
          A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SHARING TODAY IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO INTERNALLY BEHIND THE SCENES. 
          WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE HOW ARE WE DOING IT, WHAT ARE WE DOCUMENTING, WHAT ARE WE IMPROVING FOR PROCESSES AND THE OTHER BEHIND THE SCENES THINGS. 
          SO THERE WILL BE MORE TO ROLL OUT OVER THE COMING MONTHS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, AWARD AMOUNTS HAVE CHANGED ACROSS OUR PROGRAMS, UM, TRYING TO TAKE IN DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND FEEDBACK ABOUT THOSE AWARD AMOUNTS. 
          SO THIS, UH, THESE NEW AWARD AMOUNT UPDATES ARE REFLECTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND COMMISSIONED FEEDBACK. 
          AS ALWAYS, IN A PROCESS LIKE THIS, THERE IS A LOT OF COMPROMISE. 
          SO YOU MIGHT NOT SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOUR PERFECT VERSION OF AWARD AMOUNTS LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE CAME TO, UM, SOME EXECUTIVE DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT REFLECTED THE MIDPOINT OF WHAT WE HEARD. 
          AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE@PUBLICINPUT.COM SLASH THE CREATIVE RESET, OH NO, IT'S ON MY SCREEN AND HER SCREEN, BUT NOT ON THE BIG SCREEN. 
          WHY DO THESE THINGS HAPPEN? OKAY, WHILE SHELBY'S PULLING THAT UP, WE'RE LOOKING, UM, AT THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE HEADER MEASURING PROGRAM IMPACTS, AND IF SHE CAN GET THAT UP, WE'LL HAVE IT AVAILABLE HERE. 
          IF SHE CAN'T GET IT UP AGAIN, IT'S AVAILABLE ON PUBLIC INPUT.COM/THE CREATIVE RESET IF YOU'RE WATCHING FROM HOME. 
          SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO ALIGN THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS ACROSS ALL OF THE FUNDING PROGRAMS. SO PREVIOUSLY, UM, WE HAD KIND OF DISPARATE GOALS EACH, UH, ACHIEVING, YOU KNOW, UH, CAPTURING THEIR OWN METRICS, TRACKING THEIR OWN IMPACTS. 
          AND AS A DEPARTMENT, WE FEED INTO A LOT OF CITYWIDE STRATEGIC PLANS, INCLUDING 
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IMAGINE AUSTIN. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WE AS STAFF ARE PHYSICALLY REPORTING INFORMATION OUT TO. 
          AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO OUR PROGRAMS TO HELP ENHANCE THAT PROCESS AND ALSO TO INCLUDE NEW METRICS OF SUCCESS AND PROGRAM IMPACTS TO HELP REFLECT THE, THE CREATIVE VITALITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO THE CATEGORIES THAT WE WILL NOW BE CAPTURING IN, UH, METRICS FOR ACROSS ALL OF OUR REPORTS ARE IN THE CATEGORIES OF REACH AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S US MEASURING COMMUNITY REACH AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. 
          WE WILL BE LOOKING AT PROMOTION, AND THAT IS THE VISIBILITY AND MARKETING EFFORTS OF WHAT WE ARE FUNDING. 
          UM, AND THAT'S DIRECTLY TIED TO OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IMPACT, WHICH IS THE ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL BENEFITS FOR THE CREATIVE WORKFORCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ACCESS AND THIS, UH, IS THE ACCESSIBILITY AND INCLUSION FOR AUDIENCE AND PARTICIPANTS IN THE WORK. 
          A NEW ONE THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF IS WE'RE GONNA BE MEASURING AND LOOKING AT EXPRESSION. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS SUPPORT FOR AUTHENTIC ARTISTIC AND CULTURAL EXPRESSION. 
          UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HEARD A LOT, THAT WE LOOK A LOT AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, THESE KIND OF HARD NUMBERS, BUT WE DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THE CREATIVE IMPACT OF CULTURE AS A WHOLE. 
          AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO MEASURE THAT NOW. 
          AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT RESILIENCY. 
          AND THIS IS LOOKING AT ORGANIZATIONAL GROWTH, ADAPTABILITY, AND LONG-TERM COMMUNITY BENEFIT BEYOND THE CITY FUNDING THAT WE ADMINISTER AND WE'RE BACK IN BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU, SHELBY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF ELIGIBILITY AT A GLANCE, WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE WHAT'S NEW ONE PAGER THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE AND IS AVAILABLE ONLINE. 
          UM, SO WE DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY HAVE A TOOL TO HELP OUR, UH, ECOSYSTEM OF APPLICANTS LOOK IN ONE PLACE AND SEE WHERE MIGHT I FIT IN WITH THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 
          UM, I THINK USING HERITAGE PRESERVATION IS A REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY NICHE PROGRAM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. 
          UM, WE HAVE A MUCH SMALLER NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAN WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE AND THE MUSIC BASED PROGRAMS, BUT IT IS, UH, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN EXPLORE HERITAGE BASED EVENTS THAT CAN INVOLVE MUSIC OR OTHER CREATIVE ASPECTS. 
          AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING LIGHT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS ALSO AN AVENUE FOR SUPPORT THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO. 
          IT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO YOU OR IT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO SOMEBODY YOU KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO I WON'T READ TOO MUCH, BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND COLUMN ALL THE DIFFERENT APPLICANT CATEGORIES. 
          THESE ARE ALL THE KINDS OF WAYS THAT OUR APPLICANTS MIGHT IDENTIFY THEIR SELF WHEN THEY ENTER THE APPLICATION POOL. 
          SO WE DID OUR BEST TO CAPTURE EVERYBODY BASED ON THE GUIDELINES THAT WE DEVELOPED WITH OUR TEAM. 
          UM, AS DIRECTOR MEANS MENTIONED, ALL OF THESE ARE DRAFTS AND WORKING DOCUMENTS. 
          AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO SHARE IT WITH YOU TODAY AND CAPTURE FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY, UM, ALL THE WAY THROUGH JULY 13TH TO HELP IMPROVE THIS, UM, AND GET THIS TO A FINAL VERSION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, SHELBY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL DIVE RIGHT INTO THE DETAILS OF THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND. 
          SO FOR THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT APPLICANT TYPES THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          UNDER, YOU CAN BE A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTER WITH AWARD AMOUNTS OF $20,000. 
          YOU CAN BE A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTER WITH AWARD AMOUNTS OF $5,000, OR YOU CAN BE A LIVE MUSIC VENUE WITH AN OPERATING BUDGET OVER $100,000 PER A $70,000 AWARD AMOUNT. 
          UM, FOR THE AWARDS WE HAVE ONE IN TWO YEAR TERMS, WHICH ARE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF AWARDEES SELECTED IN THEIR APPLICATION AND WHAT MEETS THEIR NEEDS MOST APPROPRIATELY. 
          SO WHENEVER YOU GO IN TO APPLY, UH, YOU SELECT FOR THE FUNDING AMOUNT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, ERICA? YES. 
          SO THAT'S THE WAY WE DID IT PREVIOUSLY. 
          THAT SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SCORING CRITERIA FOR THESE PROGRAMS, UM, FOR PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS. 
          SO THE CATEGORIES WE'LL BE AWARDING POINTS IN IS MUSIC INDUSTRY ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR UP TO 25 AVAILABLE POINTS, ARTIST DEVELOPMENT FOR UP TO 25 AVAILABLE POINTS. 
          AUSTIN MUSIC ECONOMY DEVELOPMENT FOR UP TO 25 POINTS, AND CULTURAL TOURISM, MARKETING AND OUTREACH FOR UP TO 25 POINTS. 
          EACH BULLET POINT THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THE SCORING CATEGORIES ARE DIRECTLY WHERE WE PULL OUT TO, UM, CRAFT QUESTIONS TO SCORE AGAINST THESE. 
          SO WE HAVE THREE BULLET POINTS OF MUSIC INDUSTRY ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          SO, UH, WE WILL HAVE QUESTIONS MIRRORING WHAT THOSE BULLET POINTS ARE TO HELP US SCORE FOR THAT. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY THE MEAT OF THE PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS HOW WE, YOU KNOW, BUILD OUR LIST OF LIKE WHO HAS THE TOP SCORES TO GET THE AWARDS THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY, 
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SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING, BUT FOR THE LIVE MUSIC VENUES, THE AWARD, UM, THE AVAILABLE POINTS, CATEGORIES THAT WE'LL BE SCORING AGAINST ARE AUSTIN MUSIC ECONOMY DEVELOPMENT FOR UP TO 40 POINTS. 
          AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT FOR UP TO 20 POINTS IN CULTURAL TOURISM, MARKETING AND OUTREACH FOR UP TO 40 POINTS. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND LOOK AT THE SAME INFORMATION. 
          SO APPLICANTS FOR CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM MUST HAVE AT LEAST A $120,000 OPERATING BUDGET AND THEY CAN FALL INTO ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES. 
          LIVE MUSIC VENUE, PERFORMANCE VENUE OR THEATER MUSEUM OR ART GALLERY OR MULTI-USE. 
          WE'LL DO FLAT AWARD AMOUNTS OF $60,000 AND THEY WILL BE FOR A ONE YEAR GRANT TERM. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO FOR THE SCORING CRITERIA, THE CATEGORIES WILL AWARD POINTS IN IS NUMBER ONE, COMPELLING NEED FUNDING THAT ADDRESSES A COMPELLING NEED FOR SUSTAINABILITY. 
          THAT'S UP TO 20 POINTS. 
          URGENCY, UH, RANKED IN THREE CATEGORIES FROM MOST URGENT, URGENT TO LESS URGENT, UP TO 50 POINTS. 
          CO-LOCATION UP TO 15 POINTS. 
          COMMUNITY BENEFIT UP TO 25 POINTS. 
          AND WE ARE AWARDING BONUS POINTS IN THIS PROGRAM FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT RECEIVE A PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR C SAP GRANT OR A PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR CULTURAL FUNDING GRANT, UM, TO TRY TO DISTRIBUTE FUNDS TO FOLKS WHO HAVE NOT BENEFITED FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IN THE PAST. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS REALIGNMENT FOR OUR FUNDING PROGRAMS, AND WE ARE HOPING TO BRING ACCESS FOR EVERYBODY. 
          LOOKING BACK AT THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, PROGRAMS THAT YOU CAN APPLY IN. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN SEE THEIR SELF IN ONE OF THOSE BUCKETS, ONE OR MORE OF THOSE BUCKETS. 
          WE ARE ENHANCING TRANSPARENCY FROM THIS PROCESS AND BEYOND, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH Y'ALL ON THAT. 
          AND WE REALLY ARE LOOKING TO BE OF SERVICE. 
          WE WANNA OFFER MORE SUPPORT AND RESOURCES. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK TONIGHT ABOUT HOW CAN WE PROVIDE RESOURCES, HOW CAN WE CONNECT PEOPLE WITH RESOURCES? WE HAD SOMEBODY COME AND DO A PRESENTATION FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT RESOURCES THEY HAVE THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 
          SO REALLY SERVING AS THAT HUB FOR PEOPLE IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT HALLMARK OF WHAT WE HOPE TO DO BETTER AS A NEW DEPARTMENT. 
          SO, FINAL THOUGHTS. 
          UM, WE'VE LISTENED TO A LOT OF FEEDBACK TO GET TO THE VERSION OF THE GUIDELINES AND THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT YOU BOTH, UH, THAT YOU ALL HAVE ACCESS TO RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE ARE HOPING TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS PROCESS AS WE MOVE TOWARDS LAUNCHING IN THE FALL OF 2025. 
          WE WILL ROLL OUT FINALIZED GUIDELINES QUESTIONS, INFORMATION ON TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE APPLICATION WORKSHOPS, AND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. 
          SO EVERYTHING WILL BE AVAILABLE WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL DATE OF THE APPLICATION BEING OPEN. 
          RIGHT NOW, THE WORK WE'RE DOING IS TO GET THE GUIDELINES FINAL SO THEY CAN GET POSTED FIRST AND ALL OF THE OTHER WORK WILL FOLLOW SHORTLY BEHIND THAT. 
          SO OUR CALL TO ACTION TONIGHT IS, UM, TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE GUIDELINES BY JULY 13TH. 
          YOU CAN REVIEW THOSE AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK VIA THAT PUBLIC INPUT LINK THAT I SHARED EARLIER. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, WE HOPE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK TO HELP IMPACT THAT FINAL VERSION THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS. 
          SO, HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS, UM, GET AS GRANULAR AS YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          IF, IF THERE'S A BETTER FORUM TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS OFFLINE AND AN EMAIL IN A MEETING, WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. 
          AND I DO WANNA MAKE ONE MENTION THAT THE PDF THAT'S ONLINE RIGHT NOW, AS FOR THE GUIDELINES THAT'S DATED JULY 2ND, IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU JUST SAW. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THIS HAS MORE UPDATES BASED ON EXECUTIVE TEAM FEEDBACK AND WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE. 
          AND SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF THE, THE, THE SET OF GUIDELINES WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK ON. 
          AND ALL THE GUIDELINES ARE CONSTANTLY BEING UPDATED RIGHT NOW. 
          SO JULY 2ND WAS A MOMENT IN TIME. 
          THIS IS THE NEXT MOMENT IN TIME. 
          AND SO PLEASE PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU JUST SAW. 
          YES, THE, THE EVOLUTION OF FEEDBACK IS ONGOING, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, DIRECTOR LEANS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MORGAN MESSICK. 
          ERICA, THIS IS, UM, UM, I'M A BIT OVERWHELMED ACTUALLY. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS JUST BEEN BRILLIANT TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THE NEW DEPARTMENT HAS PUT IN, IN GETTING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE PROVIDED FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          AND IT'S JUST BEEN A PRETTY BROAD 360 APPROACH TO GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT I'VE SEEN, UH, HAPPEN THROUGH, UH, THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF THE STATS, STATS YOU HAVE PROVIDED AROUND, UH, THE NUMBER OF SURVEY RESPONSES AND, UH, FOCUS GROUPS AND ONE-ON ONE-ON-ONES THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          UM, 
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I THINK IT'S BEEN, ESPECIALLY IN THE SHORT RUN, UH, A TREMENDOUS, UH, AND A VERY POSITIVE, UH, UH, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY TO GET TO THESE CONCLUSIONS. 
          UM, WHAT IS ALSO, I'M VERY ACTUALLY THRILLED TO SEE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, WHAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, IN FEBRUARY AROUND THESE GRANTS. 
          UM, I CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME DIFFERENCE IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE POINTS IN THE DISTRIBUTION. 
          UM, PROBABLY THERE WAS, I I, I SAW SOMETHING AROUND LENDING THAT WAS NOT, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT. 
          AND I, I THINK THE OTHER DIFFERENCE WAS MAYBE, UH, ADDS TO, UH, MAYBE PUBLICATIONS OR ENTITIES THAT, THAT, UH, HAVE ARE LIKE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE. 
          I THINK THAT CAN BE FAIRLY BROADLY INTERPRETED IN MY MIND. 
          BUT, UM, BUT NO, THANK YOU FOR THE AMAZING WORK. 
          UH, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL, UH, KIND OF COMPREHENSIVELY PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER IN, UM, IN A PRETTY, WITH A PRETTY TIGHT DEADLINE. 
          SO I, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE, UM, UH, COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONERS IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER ENGLAND, STILL GETTING USED TO PEOPLE CALLING ME THAT . 
          UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND LIKE I SAID, I'M ALSO, UH, A LITTLE LATE TO THE GAME WHILE I'M STILL FIGURING OUT HOW ALL THIS WORKS. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT ON TIME. 
          UH, THANKS. 
          UM, I MEAN, FIRST OFF, I HOPE YOU ALL ARE VERY PROUD OF YOURSELVES. 
          THIS IS A LOT. 
          SO IT'S A LOT, A LOT. 
          AND SO IF NO ONE SAID THAT, AND THANK YOU. 
          UM, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          UH, ONE, I NOTICED THAT THE, THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH WAS FORMERLY CLOSED, RIGHT? AND AM I DUE, AND IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT AND WHERE THERE WASN'T FUNDING PREVIOUSLY FOR THAT? IS THAT NOT CORRECT? NO. 
          UM, WELL I'LL LET ERICA TAKE IT, BUT WE, ERICA, SO THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM ONLY IS ALLOCATED $500,000 A YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO LET IT ROLL TO CREATE A BIG ENOUGH AWARD BUDGET SO THAT IT'S EFFECTIVE. 
          AND IN THIS PREVIOUS YEAR, THE UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO CONTRIBUTED AN ADDITIONAL $300,000 FROM THE INCENTIVE FROM THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE. 
          WHAT IS RESERVE FUND? YEAH. 
          THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE RESERVE FUND FOR THE PAY FOR THE ACTUAL, UH, PROPERTY TAX, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          SO WE JUST NEED ENOUGH MONEY TO ROLL INTO IT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          IT DOES NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDING FROM THE FEDS OR ANYWHERE ELSE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, COOL. 
          UH, I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S BACK AND THAT'S ROLLING OUT, THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          UM, MY SECOND QUESTION WAS, UH, UH, AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR, UM, PIVOTING TO, UH, ON THE RECORD THAT THIS WAS NOT ACTUALLY WHAT WAS IN PREVIOUS EMAILS, WHICH I HAD BEEN STUDYING OVER THE LAST WEEK. 
          UM, SO I WAS GLAD TO READ THROUGH THIS TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF PIVOT WITH SOME OF THOSE THINGS. 
          AND IT ALREADY ANSWERED SOME OF MY QUESTIONS, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          UM, I NOTICED THAT IN THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE, UH, WITH AN OPERATING BUDGET OVER $100,000 UNDER THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, IT HAS INCREASED FROM $60,000 TO $70,000. 
          UH, MY QUESTION, UH, IS, UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT MEANS THERE ARE LESS AWARDEES, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S A FINITE BUDGET. 
          UH, WHAT WAS THE STRATEGY IN CHANGING THAT? THAT NUMBER DIRECTOR MEANS? YES. 
          SO THAT WAS PART OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD OUR VENUE OWNERS ARE SAYING DUE TO THE COST OF, UH, JUST THE OPERATIONS, THEY FELT THAT THEY WOULD, THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. 
          AND SO THAT CAME FROM ONE OF OUR FOCUS GROUPS THAT WE HAD WHERE WE HAD, UM, SPECIFIC, UH, A FOCUS GROUP FOR THE VENUES. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO. 
          THAT'S JUST FEEDBACK. 
          UM, I, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AS FAR AS THE ASSISTANCE INFLATION, UH, WHAT REVENUE LOOKS LIKE PROPERTY TAX, INSURANCE, LIQUOR LIABILITY. 
          I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, I GUESS THE DECISION THEN WAS MADE THAT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR FEWER SPACES TO RECEIVE THIS, TO HELP THAN TO SPREAD IT ACROSS TO MORE SPACES. 
          UM, AND OUR BUDGET IS ALSO, UM, WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, SO IT WON'T BE EXACTLY APPLES TO APPLES ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED IT LAST YEAR. 
          YOU WON'T SEE LIKE A DIRECT DECREASE JUST BECAUSE THE BUDGETS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FOR THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'LL BE ACTUALLY ADDING OUR FY 25 BUDGETS FOR AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND AND THE CSAT PROGRAM TO OUR FY 26 BUDGETS. 
          COOL. 
          SO KEEP IN MIND, SO THAT DOUBLES OUR BUDGETS FOR BOTH, BUT THEN IT'LL GO BACK DOWN IN 27. 
          BUT THAT IS BECAUSE WE WANNA BE SURE WE HAVE JUST ONE APPLICATION, 
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NOT TWO, WITHIN FOUR MONTHS OF EACH OTHER TO REDUCE THE BARRIERS FOR OUR APPLICANTS AND TO ALSO REDUCE THE BARRIERS FOR STAFF AROUND HOW MANY GRANT AGREEMENTS WE'RE GONNA SEE. 
          SO I THINK THAT IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE KIND OF DOING THAT DOUBLE UP, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE CREATIVE RESET TO SERVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          THAT GIVES US MORE TIME WITH THE ENHANCED WAY WE'D LIKE TO FUNDRAISE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'LL FILL SOME GAPS IN FY 27. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS, AND I WAS UNFORTUNATELY UNAWARE OF THE WORKING GROUP, UH, FOR VENUES. 
          AND SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE HAD I KNOWN ABOUT IT, I WOULD'VE BEEN THERE AND I WOULD'VE HELPED DISCUSS THIS. 
          HOWEVER, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THIS IS MY LAST ATTEMPT TO GO ON PUBLIC RECORD FOR SOMETHING THAT I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR, AS THIS IS AN ADVISORY COUNCIL, UM, BEFORE THE END OF JULY. 
          UH, AND BEFORE, UH, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANYTHING SENT TO MY DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBER FOR, FOR WHATEVER THIS LOOKS LIKE, UM, LOOKING AT THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, THE LIVE MUSIC VENUES, UH, UNDER THE GUIDELINES, UM, I SEE HERE AS SOMEONE WHO OPERATES, UH, UH, A A SMALL, UM, VERY HISTORIC VENUE, UH, AND INDEPENDENT VENUE, AND ALSO OPERATED, UH, AUSTIN'S LARGEST ALONGSIDE COMMISSIONER CARVALLO, UH, AS THE OPERATIONAL MANAGER, AND ALSO BEING A TOURING MUSICIAN WITH INDEPENDENT REPRESENTATION AND SOLO REPRESENTATION AS WELL AS, UH, A PROMOTER ON THAT. 
          AND I'VE KIND OF RUN THE GAMBIT FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON ALL SIDES. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE GUIDELINES HERE FOR LIVE MUSIC VENUES ARE, UH, MAYBE JUST MISREPRESENTED. 
          UH, AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          UM, HIRES AT LEAST 40% IN LOCAL MUSICIANS, UH, THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD IN PRACTICE, BUT IF IT'S NOT PROFITABLE TO KEEP THE PLACE OPEN, PUTTING A PERCENTAGE ON THAT FOR WHAT THE MODEL IS, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT MUSIC VENUES, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM ARE VERY UNIQUE IN DIFFERENT MODELS, RIGHT? IT'S AN AMALGAMATION OF SOCIO-DEMOGRAPHICS, GEODEMOGRAPHICS, WHO'S GOT THE MONEY, WHO'S INVESTING, WHAT PARTNERSHIPS THEY HAVE AS FAR AS PROMOTIONAL AGENCIES ARE CONCERNED. 
          SO, REGIONAL, LOCAL, NATIONAL, UM, THAT FEELS A BIT CONSTRICTIVE TO ME. 
          UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT. 
          I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. 
          UM, MORE THAN 50% OF GROSS INCOME GENERATED FROM MUSIC EVENTS BECAUSE OF THE, THERE ISN'T ONE STRUCTURED MODEL FOR A BUSINESS MODEL FOR HOW INDEPENDENT MUSIC VENUES, UH, SUSTAIN THEMSELVES OR DON'T, UH, IN AUSTIN, UM, 50% OF GROSS INCOME GENERATED FROM MUSIC VENUES. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE CORRECT METRIC. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START WITH THAT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF COST, UH, AS A, A VOCABULARY TERM INSTEAD OF GROSS INCOME. 
          I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, PERFORMANCE TICKET SALES. 
          I'M UNSURE WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS. 
          THAT IS AN ACTUAL QUESTION. 
          HOW IS THAT A GUIDELINE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. 
          IT'S JUST TICKETED SHOWS THAT REINFORCES THE DEFINITION OF THE VENUE, AND THESE ARE DIRECTLY FROM THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          FREE AND LOW COST TEMPORARY SPACES FOR OTHER CREATIVE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          IS THAT IMPLYING, UM, OPENING UP A VENUE FOR, UH, REHEARSAL SPACES FOR ARTISTS? WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY IMPLY? ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE, SAY A LARGE VENUE AND DURING THE DAY YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, SUBLET TO SOMEONE TO USE YOUR SPACE WHILE IT'S NOT IN USE, THAT'S ONE WAY OF DOING IT. 
          MM. 
          YOU COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL SPACE ON YOUR PROPERTY THAT COULD JUST BE SUBLET. 
          SO IT'S ABOUT CO-LOCATION AND PROVIDING MORE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF COMING TOGETHER TO CO-LOCATE TO GET COST DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          MM. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, LOCAL BANDS IS SUPPORT FOR TOURING SHOWS. 
          UH, FRANKLY, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE STRUCK, AND I'LL GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT BECAUSE OFTENTIMES VENUES DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONTROL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          AND I THINK BY MAKING THAT A CRITERIA KIND OF UNDERPLAYS WHAT THE VENUE, THE TALENT BUYER OR THE INTERNAL PROMOTER CAN ACTUALLY DO, UM, YEAH, UNDERSTOOD. 
          JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, UH, WE OFTEN DON'T HAVE THE CONTROL TO DO THAT. 
          I, I KNOW, I, THERE'S, IT'S ONLY CONTROL WHEN YOU HAVE A BAD, WHEN A SHOW ISN'T SELLING THAT YOU CAN SAY, HEY, IF WE PUT SOME SUPPORT ON THAT COULD 
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LEAD TO SOME ADDITIONAL, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, SPECIFICALLY DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CONTRACTS LOOK LIKE FOR RADIUS. 
          AND FOR THOSE TOURING MUSICIANS WHO ARE CREATING A PACKAGE, WHICH I'M SURE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE VENUE DOESN'T HAVE CONTROL. 
          ONCE THE TALENT BUYERS BOUGHT THE SHOW, WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY THAT THAT'S THE ARTISTIC INTENT TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT WHAT THAT SHOW IS. 
          SO IT DIFFERS PER VENUE, PER CONTRACT, PER REGIONAL, PER NATIONAL PROMOTER. 
          UM, I DO THINK THAT UNFAIRLY, UH, REFLECTS THE ACTIONS OF WHAT VENUES CAN ACTUALLY DO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WELL, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT ONE ALONG WITH ON THE GOTCHA. 
          AROUND ALL THE SCORING CRITERIA AROUND LOCAL MUSICIANS. 
          UM, THE NEXT ONE IS ACCESS TO SHOWS FOR ALL AUDIENCES. 
          I SEE THAT THAT WAS CHANGED FROM THE JULY 2ND. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, FROM 18 AND UP. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THE BROADER, UH, VOCABULARY THAT'S IN THERE. 
          UM, MAINLY DUE BECAUSE YOUR LOOK AT LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR UNDER 21 IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, UH, FOR AN ALL AGES VENUE OR EVEN 18 AND UP. 
          UM, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY WAYS TO WORK AROUND THAT AND, UH, WAYS TO, AND THE NEVER ENDING FIGHT FOR WHAT THOSE INSURANCE POLICIES LOOK LIKE AS THEY CONTINUE TO RISE TO MAKE IT MUCH HARDER TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE AN INDEPENDENT MUSIC VENUE, ESPECIALLY IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW IS, SINCE YOU CHANGED IT FROM 18 TO ACCESS TO SHOWS FOR ALL AUDIENCES, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT IMPLY? IT COULD APPLY YOUNG, UM, AUDIENCE MEMBERS, ALL ACCESS SHOWS TO ALL AGES, UH, OR OTHER THINGS, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, TO BE CREATIVE AS THE VENUE TO JUST SAY, OH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, CREATED MORE ACCESS BY FINDING A SPONSOR SO THAT IT'S A FREE SHOW. 
          UM, I FOUND A MARKETING SPONSOR TO HELP PROMOTE FAR AND WIDE TO AN AUDIENCE THAT I DON'T TYPICALLY PROMOTE TO. 
          SO WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THAT INTO THE VENUE'S HAND TO DE TO DEFINE THAT FOR US AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE LAST ONE, UH, UNDER CULTURAL TOURISM MARKETING AND OUTREACH, UH, SPECIFICALLY UNDER MARKETING STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE AUSTIN AS A GLOBAL CULTURE ON TOURIST DESTINATION FOR MUSIC. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S HOT MONEY WE GOT HAS TO BE FOR, FOR TOURISM, UM, FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT. 
          UH, HOWEVER, SOME OF THESE FEEL A LITTLE BIT UNREALISTIC, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE INDEPENDENT VENUES THAT ARE WORKING, UH, ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET, UH, OPERATIONALLY, WHICH, AND GRANTED, UH, IF THERE WAS A BETTER MARGIN OR A BETTER MODEL, IF ANYONE HAS A BETTER IDEA, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR IT. 
          I'M TRYING TO RECREATE ONE AT THE MOMENT AS WELL. 
          UM, COLLABORATING ON VENUE EVENT SPECIFIC TRAVEL PACKAGES, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW LIKELY THAT IS TO EVER HAPPEN. 
          UM, MUCH LESS PARTNERSHIP WITH HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, TRANSPORTATION PROVIDERS TO OFFER BUNDLED EXPERIENCES, MAYBE, UM, IF ANYTHING MORE FOR THE ARTISTS AND THEIR CREW, UH, TO BE ABLE TO BUNDLED IN FOR, FOR TOURING ARTISTS. 
          UM, SURE. 
          FOR COLLABORATION WITH EVENT ORGANIZATIONS ON MAJOR EVENTS AND CONVENTIONS. 
          UH, THE EXTRA WORK FOR TRAVEL PACKAGES BASED ON, UH, HOW IT DRIVES TOURISM SPECIFICALLY TO VENUES IS MOSTLY BASED ON, IN MY EXPERIENCE, BRAND IDENTITY OF THE VENUE OF WHAT ITS MARKETING OUTREACH DOES. 
          AND SO I FEEL LIKE THAT ASPECT OF THE CULTURAL TOURISM MARKETING OUTREACH IS A BIT REDUNDANT BASED ON WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING FOR MARKETING PURPOSES IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          SO, UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, I KNOW THAT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE WORKING GROUP, AND I CAN IDENTIFY AND UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME. 
          UM, BUT ALSO FOR, UH, E EVERYBODY HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS DOES GET VOTED INTO POLICY IN JULY, SO I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT BRING UP EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, ITEM THAT I HAD CONCERN WITH. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER ADE, UM, THAT YOU, YOU DID SOME HOMEWORK THERE. 
          YOU DID SOME HOMEWORK THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'M STILL DIGESTING ALL OF THIS GREAT INFORMATION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE INFORMATION HAS EVEN CHANGED FROM WHAT HAS BEEN FROM LIKE THE FIRST TO, TO NOW. 
          SO THE, THE TIME FOR COMMISSIONERS OR PERHAPS OTHERS TO REALLY, I MEAN, EVEN FROM A PHONE CALL HOURS AGO, UH, DISCUSSING SOME OF THE NUANCE WITH THIS, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY EVOLVED. 
          UM, IS IT, CAN I JUST PUT IT OUT THERE, THAT JULY 13TH IS SUNDAY FOR, FOR FEEDBACK AND WE LITERALLY JUST GOT NEW INFORMATION THAT WE'RE REACTING TO. 
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UM, THIS IS ALMOST, UM, ABOUT OTHERS BECAUSE I, I KIND OF FEEL ON THE SIDELINES TO SOME OF THE, THE DE THE DETAILS. 
          I'M NOT, I DON'T OWN A MUSIC VENUE, BUT CAN WE TEASE THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE? WE, WE HAVE MESSAGED OUT THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, SO WHEN WE STARTED THE CREATIVE RESET, WE HAD, UH, A LIST OF MANY THOUSANDS OF STAKEHOLDERS ACROSS OUR CONVERGING DIVISIONS WHO, WHO NOW MAKE UP OUR DEPARTMENT UHHUH. 
          AND SO WE HAVE REVISITED WITH THOSE LISTS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE HEARD, HERE'S WHAT'S NEXT. 
          UM, AND TOTALLY HEAR YOU ON THE VERY INCREDIBLY TIGHT TIMELINE OF JULY 13TH. 
          UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR A QUICK TURNAROUND ON FINAL FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN IN TURN, SYNTHESIZE THAT FEEDBACK AND GET A FINAL PRODUCT THE FOLLOWING WEEK. 
          UM, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE FOR US TO GET THESE PROGRAMS OUT IN THE FALL. 
          AND WE, WE RECOGNIZE IT'S A LIFT. 
          WE DID MESSAGE THAT OUT LAST WEEK. 
          WE'RE GONNA KEEP PUSHING IT OUT. 
          UM, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHARE IT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, INTERESTED PARTIES. 
          WE KNOW YOU HAVE ACCESS TO, TO PEOPLE AND HOPEFULLY INFLUENCE, YOU CAN ASK THEM TO REVIEW IT. 
          UM, WE HOPE THAT THE CARROT, AS THEY SAY LIKE THE BENEFIT OF WORKING ON THAT TIGHT TIMELINE IS LIKE, IT'S A, IT'S A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD ON THESE PROGRAMS THAT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, WE HOPE THAT THAT'S ENOUGH OF AN INCENTIVE. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT OPEN DOORS AND PHONES AND EMAILS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO TAKE QUESTIONS OR WALK YOU THROUGH IT. 
          UM, I, MYSELF HAVE BEEN WALKING PEOPLE THROUGH IT ONE-ON-ONE AND, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU AT ALL IF, IF THAT COULD EASE YOUR BURDEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATED WHEN, UM, ERICA HAD A FEW, I GUESS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO OR SOMETHING SENT OUT THAT WHEN, WHEN ACME WAS JUST GETTING STARTED, SENT OUT, UM, SOME SOCIAL MEDIA OF LIKE, HERE'S THE INFORMATION, HERE'S THE SURVEY. 
          AND I WAS A GOOD LITTLE COMMISSIONER AND SENT THAT OUT ON MY PERSONAL E MY PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO BEGIN TO SYNTHESIZE THIS IN. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE, COULD WE GIVE YOU SOME TALKING POINTS SO YOU COULD AMPLIFY OR JUST LIKE AN IMAGE? YEAH, AN IMAGE IN WORDS THAT WE CAN PUT, WE'LL CIRCLE UP ON THAT. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THAT IDEA. 
          WE WE'RE WORKING FAST AND FURIOUSLY AND SO PERHAPS THERE'S, UM, POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA ON OUR ACCOUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'VE GOT SOME POSTS UP. 
          MAYBE WE CAN, UH, HIGHLIGHT THOSE LINKS FOR Y'ALL TO RESHARE, IF THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH, YOU COULD EMAIL US. 
          I MEAN, THAT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. 
          AND I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION, SHELBY'S GIVING ME A THUMBS UP, SO WE'LL, YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS SO VERY, VERY HELPFUL THE LAST TIME. 
          I HOPE IT WAS HELPFUL THAT I SHARED IT. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SO, UM, I GUESS IS IT, IS THERE IS THE, WHO IS PARTICIPATING IN THE WORKING GROUP PUBLIC INFORMATION? SO WE THE WORKING, YOU MEAN THE PREVIOUS WORKING GROUP? RIGHT. 
          SO WHEN COMMISSIONER ENGLAND IS JUST LIKE, UH, OH, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, OH, I THINK IT'S FINE. 
          . 
          I MEAN, WELL, I WILL. 
          NO, BUT I WILL SAY, I DON'T KNOW LIKE WHAT THE AGREEMENT WAS WHEN THE WORKING GROUP WAS FORMED. 
          I WAS ON A LEAVE DURING THAT TIME, SO I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          YEAH, THIS WAS THE MUSIC COMMISSION WORKING GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          FROM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          GREAT. 
          YES. 
          SO THERE WERE, SO THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS HAD, UM, EVOLUTION OVER TIME. 
          SO AT ONE POINT THERE WAS THE IDEA OF HAVING A COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP. 
          UM, AND THAT EVOLVED AFTER WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM LAW AND ETHICS AND FROM FOLKS WHO WERE POTENTIALLY GONNA BE ON THE WORKING GROUP. 
          I SEE. 
          AND WE, WE PIVOTED TO TAKING IN ALL OF THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND DOING AN INTERNAL STAFF WORKING GROUP, WHICH WAS MADE UP OF, UM, MYSELF AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM TO JUST SIMPLY SYNTHESIZE, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE GETTING AND TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE GUIDELINES. 
          SO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY WASN'T, UH, CREATED BY AN INTERNAL WORK GROUP OF, UM, ACME STAFF BASED ON FEEDBACK AND BASED ON PREVIOUS FUNDING GUIDELINES AS WELL. 
          AND THOSE LISTENING SESSIONS AND WHAT WE ARE HEARING, I MEAN, WE HAVE A DOCUMENT FULL OF OVER A THOUSAND COMMENTS SINCE JUST JULY. 
          I MEAN FROM JUNE ON, FROM MAY YEAH. 
          STARTING IN MAY. 
          SO WE LOOKED AT THAT COMPILED TO SEE WHAT WAS MOST COMMON, TO PULL OUT THEMES, AND THEN THERE WERE LISTENING SESSIONS, UH, SOME ONE WITH VENUE PEOPLE, UH, BUT MOST OF THEM WERE LIKE A CONFLUENCE OF EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER. 
          AND SO IT'S REALLY, UM, ABOUT WHAT THE WORKING GROUP WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION DID, BUT ALSO WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING. 
          UH, BUT FOR THE MOST PART WE STARTED OFF WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND, UM, I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD JUST SAYING I HAVE FAITH IN THIS PROCESS, IN EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AS A TEAM BECAUSE OF 
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ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING AND THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN DOING. 
          AND I AM, UM, ALSO SO THAT GO, THAT IS JUST HOW I FEEL. 
          I AM A BIG, I, I LOVE THE HARD WORK THAT EVERYONE'S DOING. 
          I BELIEVE EVERYONE'S INCREDIBLY INTELLIGENT AND HAS THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE AND I'VE GOTTA GIVE IT TO COMMISSIONER ENGLAND WITH THOSE, UH, THE NUANCE MM-HMM . 
          THAT AND THERE, AND A LOT OF DETAILS THAT, UM, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED BY. 
          SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, SEEING HOW THIS PROCESS UNFOLDS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I JUST DO WANNA REMIND EVERYONE WITH THE SCORING CRITERIA. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT EVERY CRITERIA IS GOING TO GET POINTS FOR EVERY SINGLE APPLICANT. 
          THE POINT OF THE SCORING CRITERIA IS TO CREATE A DIVERSIFIED APPLIC, YOU KNOW, SCORING POOL. 
          WE CAN'T HAVE EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME SCORE. 
          WE NEED TO PUT THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE SOMEWHAT ASPIRATIONAL IN A WAY. 
          UH, IT'S LIKE, OH, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE COULD WORK ON FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          SO NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET ALL THE POINTS BECAUSE, UH, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY AWARDEES. 
          WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DIVERSITY OF SCORES. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME NUANCE AND SOME DIVERSITY WITHIN THOSE BULLETS SO THAT WE HAVE NUANCE AND DIVERSITY IN OUR SCORES AS LONG AS IT'S REALISTIC. 
          RIGHT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIRMAN CHAR, I'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT QUICK. 
          FIRST OFF, DIRECTOR MEANS WELL WELCOME. 
          UM, AND, UH, THANK YOU MS. MESSICK ALSO FOR, UM, FOR BEING HERE. 
          UM, THE, THE, UH, A COUPLE OF, UH, THINGS, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT, I, YOU SAID FOUR MONTHS AND I WAS JUST LIKE, OH, IT'S BEEN FOUR. 
          IT FEELS LIKE IT'S . 
          IT FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT, UH, JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HARD WORK THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT YOU'VE, THAT THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING. 
          UM, TO, UH, I WANT TO TOUCH ON, UH, SOME OF WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, ENGLAND WAS, WAS, WAS, WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THE, AND JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE. 
          WE DID VOTE ON GUIDELINES. 
          THOSE GUIDELINES WERE APPROVED, WORKING GROUP GUIDELINES, ALL THAT STUFF. 
          THEN EVERYTHING WENT ON PAUSE BECAUSE OF ACME. 
          AND NOW WE'RE BASICALLY LOOKING AT WHAT HAS COME OUT OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT YOUR FEEDBACK IS, IS WELCOME AND ENCOURAGED AND, UM, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS. 
          UM, SO, UM, EITHER ONE-ON-ONE OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. 
          BUT YEAH. 
          UM, VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. 
          A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT ON THE VENUE SIDE OF THINGS. 
          FIRST OFF, IT'S REALLY COOL. 
          I DIDN'T, I WASN'T AWARE THAT WITH CSAP, YOU COULD ALSO DO A, IT COULD ALSO, A LIVE MUSIC VENUE COULD ALSO QUALIFY FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY COOL THING. 
          UH, THE CONCERN THOUGH IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF VENUES WERE A THRESHOLD LAST, LIKE THE, UM, THE BUDGET WISE, IF THAT WAS A THRESHOLD FOR LAST TIME, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THEY'RE, I GUESS LIKE A QUALIFYING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR $70,000 REWARD FOR A VENUE VERSUS A $120,000 FOR C SAP, WHAT, A $60,000 MM-HMM . 
          AWARD. 
          SO WAS THAT, IS THAT NEW OR IS THAT, SO WE HAD UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OPERATING BUDGET FOR $30,000 GRANTS AND NOBODY QUALIFIED BECAUSE EVERYONE IS WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          AND SO WE COULD SAY $120,000 TOO. 
          FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, IT WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE EVERYONE'S OPERATING BUDGETS ARE FAR GREATER THAN THAT. 
          UM, WITH CSAP WE JUST TOOK THE 50% PERCENTAGE AND MADE IT 120,000. 
          AND FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND, WE JUST STUCK TO WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR. 
          UH, KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW IN TERMS OF DATA, WHICH IS MOST PEOPLE ARE WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND NO ONE'S UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT, ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS IF THERE'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE A CHICKEN AND OIL CHANGE PLACE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SCRAPPY LITTLE VENUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY , YOU KNOW, DON'T, THEY WOULDN'T, PROBABLY WOULDN'T QUALIFY, BUT I MEAN, IF NO ONE IS UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND I THINK THAT'S FINE. 
          ONE OF THE CONCERNS THOUGH IS THAT IF IT'S STILL $1 MILLION, LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR, THAT TAKES THE POOL OF AWARDEES FOR VENUES FROM 17 DOWN TO 14. 
          SO THAT'S A CONCERN ON, ON, ON, UM, ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A $2 MILLION BUDGET FOR VENUES THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR A POTENTIAL OF 28 BECAUSE WE ARE COMBINING THE 25 BUDGET WITH THE 26 BUDGET, WHICH IS FLAT. 
          SO WE DO KNOW WHAT OUR BUDGETS ARE FOR HOT FOR THE THROUGH 2027 BASED ON THE TWO YEAR PROJECTION. 
          GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE WE ARE BEING CONSERVATIVE, WE'RE KEEPING IT FLAT AFTER WE HAD ONE, YOU KNOW, BIG BUDGET RAISE BY $300,000 FOR FY 25. 
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SO WE'RE GONNA STICK WITH THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO FOR FY 27, THAT'S WHEN IT COULD GO BACK DOWN, BUT THIS GIVES US SOME TIME TO LOOK AT OUR OTHER EFFORTS OF LOOK OF LOOKING FOR OTHER FUNDS BESIDES HOT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS, THAT'S KIND OF NEW. 
          UH, SO I KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S A TWO YEAR, WE'RE JUST RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO IT MAKES NO SENSE TO LIKE RUN TWO APPLICATIONS. 
          NO, I, I KNOW, I KNOW. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD ALSO VOTE TO EXTEND TIME IF WE NEEDED TO. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR, BUT, UM, THE, OH, SHE MEANT RUNNING OUTTA TIME FOR APPLICATIONS. 
          NOT FOR THE MEETING. 
          YEAH, NOT FOR THE MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          RUNNING OUTTA TIME IN OUR FISCAL YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT, THAT, THAT I HAVE, AND, AND I, AND THIS IS A MAJOR ONE, UM, THE, IS IS THE IMPLICATION OF COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY APPLYING FOR, UM, CITY GRANTS. 
          UM, BASED ON, SO FOR INSTANCE, ANY CITY EMPLOYEE, ANYONE THAT HAS AN AUSTIN TEXAS.GOV EMAIL ADDRESS CAN APPLY FOR CITY GRANTS. 
          THERE'S ALSO, UM, I KNOW ARTS COMMISSION IS NOT ABLE TO CURRENTLY APPLY FOR GRANTS ALSO, IF NOT TRUE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE A, UM, HOW DO I SAY THIS? SO BASICALLY IF I WERE LIKE A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A SENATOR OR SOMETHING, AND I, AND I HAVE A STAKE IN THIS COMPANY, RIGHT. 
          BEING HIS OWN COMPANY OR HER OWN COMPANY, THEIR OWN COMPANY, WHATEVER. 
          AND THEN I'M VOTING FOR THINGS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THAT COMPANY THAT I HAVE A STAKE IN. 
          THAT'S CALLED A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 
          YES. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE AS COMMISSIONERS GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR CITY GRANTS OR NOT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU TO VOTE. 
          UM, CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS, IS A PRIMARY REASON WHY WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO VOTE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE OF YOUR EXPERTISE AND YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. 
          SO, UM, YOU ARE NOT MAKING LIKE A VOTING DECISION TO SAY, I VOTE THAT THIS IS THE FINAL THING. 
          AND THAT'S HOW IT IS. 
          WE ARE GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO INFLUENCE, UM, THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A, A SEAT AT THE TABLE. 
          YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER HAS APPOINTED YOU TO THIS ROLE. 
          UM, AND YOU ARE ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY AS EXPERTS. 
          SO YOU, YOU'RE AT THE TABLE JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAVE OPENED UP THIS FEEDBACK BEYOND THIS ROOM, RIGHT? IT'S AVAILABLE AT PUBLIC INPUT. 
          ANYBODY CAN GO PUT THEIR FEEDBACK IN. 
          UM, YOU JUST HAVE A TELEVISED SEAT BECAUSE OF THE POSITION THAT YOU'RE IN, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY STILL GONNA BE ELIGIBLE. 
          ARTS COMMISSIONERS AS WELL ARE, ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS WITHIN OUR GUIDELINES. 
          THERE IS A SECTION FOR CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AND THERE'S ALSO A SECTION ON ELIGIBILITY. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          FULL-TIME. 
          CITY OF AUSTIN EMPLOYEES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE. 
          BUT THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE WITHIN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, I WILL SAY, AT A COMMISSION LEVEL. 
          UM, AS THINGS ARISE, DEPENDING ON THE PROGRAMS ACROSS THE MANY COMMISSIONS THAT WE STAFF, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COMMISSIONERS TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM VOTES WHERE THEY, THEY MAY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S JUST THE STANDARD. 
          LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF, LIKE, THE DECISIONS WE MAKE HERE TODAY WILL IMPACT YOUR ELIGIBILITY. 
          UM, BUT IF SOMETHING SHOULD COME UP, YOU CAN JUST RECUSE YOURSELF FROM IT. 
          BUT IT, IT SHOULDN'T IMPACT HOW YOU CAN APPLY FOR THIS, BECAUSE THAT WON'T BE, THAT VOTE WON'T BE TAKING PLACE. 
          YEAH. 
          AS A REMINDER, THE MUSIC COMMISSION MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, AND THE RECOMMENDATION ISN'T AN APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE GUIDELINES. 
          IT'S A RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY, WE WANT COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE PART OF THE INDUSTRY, AND, BUT WE ALSO WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE YOU ARE IN NEED JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE INDUSTRY. 
          AND SO BY DOING IT THIS WAY THROUGH RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU KNOW, AS ALSO BEING PART OF THE RESET, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S VOICE IS HEARD AND THEY CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE WHO'S SCORING THE APPLICATIONS? THEY'RE SCORED ACCORDING TO THE GUIDELINES, WHO IS SCORING THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR THIRD PARTY RESPONSIBILITY TO COUNT UP POINTS BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PROVIDED JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. 
          BUT WHO IS SCORING THEM IS THERE. 
          THAT IS OUR THIRD PARTY. 
          WHO'S THE THIRD PARTY? THE LONG CENTER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND, AND SO, BUT YOU GUYS LIKE WORK BACK AND FORTH ON YES. 
          THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR DIRECTIONS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SUBJECTIVE AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER. 
          THEY FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS ACCORDING TO OUR GUIDELINES, AND THEY'VE TRIPLE CHECK IT, AND THEY GIVE US THEIR WORK TO ALSO CHECK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE ARE WORKING IN A WORKING GROUP OR SOMETHING, JUST FOR INSTANCE, AND WE'RE HELPING YOU ALL COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHATNOT, AND THEN WE'RE THEN VOTING ON THOSE GUIDELINES THAT WE HELPED YOU CREATE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A RECOMMENDATION, ISN'T THAT TECHNICALLY A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? AND THEN, AND THEN WE GO AND LIKE, APPLY FOR THAT THING THAT WE JUST HELPED YOU CREATE AND THAT WE, THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I BELIEVE. 
          OR HE'S SAYING VOTING ON A RECOMMENDATION? OH, NO, NO, NO. 
          NOT VOTE. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          NOT VOTING ON A RECOMMENDATION. 
          VOTING ON, UM, IF, IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS VOTED ON, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO GO AND APPLY 
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FOR A GRANT THAT WE HELPED YOU CREATE, BASICALLY FROM THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE WORKING GROUP THAT WE WERE IN. 
          SURE. 
          I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU RECUSE YOURSELF IF SUCH A VOTE WERE TO COME UP. 
          BUT I ALSO WANNA SAY, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CALLING FOR A VOTE TONIGHT, OF COURSE. 
          UM, BUT IF SUCH, UH, A SCENARIO WERE TO HAPPEN, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND RECUSALS FROM ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WHO INTENDED TO APPLY OR SERVED ON THE BOARD OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE TEND TO APPLY. 
          AND WE AIM TO, UM, REMOVE THE GRAY AREA FROM THAT IN OUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST SECTION, WHICH IS IN THE APPENDIX OF, I SAW THAT THIS DOCUMENT. 
          AND SO WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH, UM, ETHICS AND THE LAW DEPARTMENT ON THAT. 
          AND SO WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS WITH THEM. 
          THEY PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, SO THAT'LL CONTINUE TO BE TWEAKED AS WELL. 
          WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM OTHER, UM, FOLKS AT THE CITY AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE READ THE GUIDELINES TO SAY, HEY, HOW MIGHT YOU MITIGATE THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, OUR GOAL IS TO LIKE, REMOVE THE GRAY AND MAKE IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE ABOUT HOW TO AVOID CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. 
          AND SO IF YOU, IF YOU SEE ANYTHING GLARING OR HAVE AN IDEA WHERE, UM, THIS IS THE TIME Y'ALL, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK SO WE CAN GET THAT TIGHTENED UP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC? COMMISSIONER SVA, THANK YOU. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, AS A, UH, RECOVERING BUREAUCRAT, I CAN APPRECIATE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE OVER THE PAST FOUR MONTHS AND, UH, THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES AND THE EFFORT BEHIND THE SCENES TO PRODUCE IT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND IT'S VERY, UH, UM, IMPRESSIVE. 
          UH, I ONLY HAD ONE QUESTION, AND THAT WAS, UH, FOR DIRECTOR ME'S PRESENTATION. 
          I TALKED ABOUT THE, THE CREATIVE RESET ACME'S WROTE AHEAD AND IT HAD THE PHASES YES. 
          UM, THAT YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          DO YOU HAVE TIMELINES ON THOSE? WHAT'S SORT OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I'M SAYING WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS FOR ALL FOUR PHASES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          THANK YOU DIRECTOR MEANS, UH, THANK YOU TO STAFF AS WELL, UH, FOR, UH, ALL THIS WORK AND FOR COMING TO THESE CONCLUSIONS. 
          PLEASE, UH, UH, EVERYONE, UH, PUBLICIZE THE JULY 13 DATE FOR, UH, FEEDBACK. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND THEN WE'LL HOLD OUR PAGE TO SEE THE APPLICATION AND THE OUTCOMES. 
          AND, UM, THIS, I HOPE CONTINUES TO BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS AS WE SEE OUTCOMES AND, UH, SEE HOW IT IS THINGS ARE WORKING FOR THE COMMUNITY THROUGH METRICS. 
          UM, AND WE KEEP IMPROVING THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UH, ALL THE EFFORTS THAT'S GONE INTO THIS SO FAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          QUICK TIME CHECK. 
          WE GOT ABOUT, UH, 19 MINUTES HERE, UH, 10 O'CLOCK. 
          WE HAVE TO CLEAR THE ROOM AS I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE LAST, UH, 
          [8. Approval of recommendation for performance rights organizations and transparency in  licensing revenue distribution practices following presentation by Secretary Strickland.]
AGENDA ITEM UNDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEMS. APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDATION FOR PERFORMANCE RIGHT. 
          ORGANIZATIONS AND TRANSPARENCY IN LICENSING REVENUE DISTRIBUTION PRACTICES, FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY SECRETARY, UH, STRICKLAND COMMISSIONER. 
          HELLO, SECRETARY STRICKLAND HERE. 
          UH, AND, AND I'M NOT, UH, THERE'S NO, AGAIN, THERE'S NO PRESENTATION, UM, FOR THIS. 
          UH, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD. 
          SHELBY, UH, , THE, UH, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A POSSIBLE, UH, VOTE. 
          AND I, UH, WAS ABLE TO, I DID GET A HOLD OF, UH, COMMISSIONER CARVALHO, VICE CHAIR, CARVALHO, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CASADA ON THIS, UH, BASIC, IT'S THE SAME THING AS LAST TIME, LONG AND SHORT. 
          WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IS, UM, BASICALLY RECOMMENDING TO COUNSEL THAT AND, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO COUNSEL THAT BMI AND ASCAP BE LIFTED FROM THEIR CONSENT DECREES. 
          JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU, UH, A BACKSTORY AGAIN OF WHERE, HOW WE GOT HERE. 
          UM, UH, ERICA SHAMLEY, UM, VERY WILLINGLY AND, UH, HAD THIS, UH, AMAZING THING THAT WAS COMING UP, WHICH IS BASICALLY, UM, UH, UH, NOTES THAT WE COULD MAKE TO CONGRESS, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW, LIKE MUSIC WAS IMPACTED, OR, UM, MUSIC WAS BEING IMPACTED IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, PERFORMANCE RIGHTS, UM, PERFORMANCE RIGHTS BEING, STREAMING, PERFORMANCE RIGHTS, BEING, UH, UH, PUBLIC PERFORMANCE, PERFORMANCE RIGHTS, BEING RADIO PLAY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          AND SO BASICALLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WRITE A LETTER TO CONGRESS THAT BASICALLY, UH, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD, UH, GIVE OUR OPINION ON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, UM, AS THEY MAKE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THIS NEXT WAVE, WHICH WOULD COME IN 2028. 
          SO THEY DO THIS, BASICALLY, THEY GO IN AND THEY LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND THEY RESET, UM, THE MECHANICALS, ALL THAT STUFF EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS BASICALLY, UM, 
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UH, WHO ARE THE PROS, UH, AND WE'RE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT BMI AND ASCAP, AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO AS A BODY, AS A COMMUNITY, AS A COMMISSION TO, UM, HELP THE, THE PROS, UH, UM, HAVE MORE LEVERAGE IN, UM, THE, THE GRAND MARKET OF ROYALTY SHARE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          THE, UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY IS ASCAP AND BMI AND, UH, THEY ARE UNDER WHAT'S CALLED A CONSENT DECREE SINCE THE 1940S. 
          THEY'VE BEEN UNDER CONSENT DECREE 1941, TO BE EXACT. 
          AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO, UH, LIKE IF A RADIO STATION'S GONNA PLAY A SONG FROM THE, AND, AND THE LICENSE AND THE ARTIST IS LICENSED TO BMI OR ASCAP, THE RADIO'S GONNA PAY A RATE. 
          THERE'S NO NEGOTIATION, THERE'S NONE OF THAT STUFF THAT HAPPENS AT ALL. 
          SO THEY BASICALLY JUST HAVE TO TAKE THE MONEY AND SAY, PLEASE, AND THANK YOU. 
          WHEREAS SOMEONE LIKE GGMR OR CSAC HAVE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE, UM, THOSE RATES. 
          THEY CAN GO BACK AND FORTH. 
          THEY CAN DECLINE WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY, THAT THEY WANT TO DO. 
          UM, AND, UH, THAT PUTS, UH, BMI AND ASCAP AT A SERIOUS DISADVANTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, BASICALLY, UM, A LIKE OWNERSHIP AND NOT OWNERSHIP IN THE MARKET SHARE, BUT BEING ABLE TO NEGOTIATE RATES, BETTER RATES FOR PERFORMING ARTISTS LONGER. 
          THE SHORT OF IT, YOU COULD THINK OF IT AS LIKE, WE HAVE A MINIMUM WAGE IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AT LIKE $7 AND 15 CENTS, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. 
          BUT, UM, THIS WOULD CONSIDER THIS LIKE A MAXIMUM WAGE. 
          SO BASICALLY, ARTISTS AREN'T PAID MORE THAN EITHER THE RATE THAT IS SET FROM BEING FROM, UM, SPOTIFY, APPLE MUSIC, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          UM, OR A PERFORMANCE ROYALTY FROM A VENUE OR FROM, UM, A RADIO STATION, BASICALLY. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BASICALLY RECOMMENDING TO, UM, COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD THEN HOPEFULLY GO TO OUR STATE LEGISLATURE, UM, THAT WOULD LIFT, UH, WE WOULD MAKING THE POINT THAT THAT, UH, BMI AND NACA BE LIFTED OUTTA THEIR CONSENT DECREES TO GIVE MORE BARGAINING POWER TO THE MAJORITY OF MUSICIANS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, UM, AND HAVE SO THAT MUSICIANS COULD BE PAID BETTER COMPETITIVE RATES. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I MAKING SENSE THERE? ARE THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT? THAT'S A LOT. 
          THIS IS ALSO, AND I, AND I TEXTED, UM, THIS TO COMMISSIONER CASADA. 
          IT IS A MOONSHOT. 
          SO THERE'S, UH, NO GUARANTEE THAT IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS, THAT  BMI WOULD GO WITH THE, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? SHUT THIS DOWN. 
          UM, AND THERE IS NO, UM, GUARANTEE THAT EVEN IF THEY WERE TO GO ALONG WITH THIS, THAT WE WOULD WIN THE FIGHT OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          BUT IT WOULD SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE THAT AUSTIN BEING THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD IS STANDING BEHIND ARTISTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE 21ST CENTURY. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS A POWERFUL AND BOLD STATEMENT. 
          SO I OPEN THE FLOOR UP WITH QUESTIONS. 
          I CAN ALSO, I'M NOT, I CAN READ IT. 
          I REALLY DON'T WANT TO. 
          I, BUT I MEAN, I WILL READ THE WHERE AS IF I, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT'S PART OF IT, BUT I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND PLEASE, WE CAN BE AS CRITICAL AS YOU WANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, SVA, MORE A PROCESS QUESTION. 
          SO IF WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE THIS AT SOME POINT TONIGHT, SHOULD WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE IN A SECOND AND THEN START DISCUSSION? UH, WHICHEVER WAY IS FINE. 
          IT'S GENERALLY THE WE COULD DO THAT. 
          WE COULD DO THAT IF THAT'S HOW WE WANT TO GO, AND THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, LET'S DO THAT. 
          YOU MAKE A MOTION. 
          I HAVE MADAM CHAIR. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          THE MOTION IS TO, UM, APPROVE THIS, UM, THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH IS, CAN YOU READ OUT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION, I MEAN, AT HIGH LEVEL, AT LEAST READ OUT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS? YES. 
          APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDATION FOR PERFORMANCE RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS AND TRANSPARENCY AND LICENSING, REVENUE DISTRIBUTION PRACTICES. 
          FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY SECRETARY STRICKLAND, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RECOMMENDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALRIGHT. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND RIGHT NOW. 
          COULD WE, UH, JUST KEEP, UH, CAN I OPEN THIS UP TO FURTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, NO. 
          OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, ARE WE TRYING TO SAY? WE DON'T WANNA TAKE THE VOTE TODAY? YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND. 
          YES. 
          IN ORDER TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION AND MOVE FORWARD, 
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WE COULD DISCUSS THE TOPIC, RIGHT? COULD, WE COULD DISCUSS THE TOPIC WITHOUT THE SECOND. 
          THERE'S NO VOTE. 
          WE CANNOT TAKE A VOTE WITHOUT THE, UH, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IN ORDER TO MAKE A VOTE, YOU'LL NEED TO, WE'LL NEED A SECOND. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO ASK THE COMMISSION IF WE HAVE, UH, ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATIONS OR QUESTIONS THAT WE WANNA ASK, UH, UM, ON THIS TOPIC TO COMMISSION STRICKLAND OR JUST BROADLY, I MEAN, UH, HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTARY ON THIS. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER ALA THANK YOULAND, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND FOR BRINGING YOUR ATTENTION. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION, SO IF YOU COULD JUST, I THINK I'M STILL, I CAN PROCESS THIS STUFF. 
          I DIDN'T REALLY, UH, I DON'T HAVE ALL INFORMATION ON THIS. 
          I THINK I WAS FOCUSING MORE ON, UH, OTHER ITEMS TODAY. 
          I'LL BE VERY HONEST, BUT IF JUST REALLY QUICK, I THINK FOR AT LEAST FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, VERY BLACK AND WHITE PROS AND CONS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, ASKING OR OF THIS CONSENT DEC FOR, FOR FOLKS, UH, NOT JUST MUSICIANS, BUT ALSO VENUES, RIGHT? SURE. 
          FOR BMI ASK UP OF, I KNOW THEY HAVE THE CONSENT DECREE, AND, AND YOU, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO NEGOTIATE, IT'S WHATEVER, IT'S A FLAT FEE, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY, FOR ARTISTS, RIGHT? SO I THINK IF YOU COULD JUST GIMME A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ME TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT THIS AND, AND, UH, PERHAPS SOMEDAY VOTE ON THIS. 
          SURE. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          SO THE, I I THINK THE PROS OF THIS WOULD BE THAT IT OPENS UP A, UM, UH, A REALITY WHERE, UH, LEGISLATIVELY WE COULD ACTUALLY, UM, FIGHT THIS, UH, THE, THE FACT THAT ARTISTS ARE NOT PAID FOR STREAMING, BARELY. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE PAID NOTHING BASICALLY FOR STREAMING AT ALL. 
          RIGHT? LET'S JUST START WITH THE STREAMING. 
          SO BMI DOESN'T NECESSARILY, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HANDLE, THEY DON'T SET THE RATES, THEY DON'T DO ANY OF THAT STUFF, RIGHT? SO THAT IS DONE BY THE, UH, BY THE, UM, COPYRIGHT ROYALTY BOARD AND THOSE, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THOSE RATES ARE SET. 
          THOSE RATES ARE BASICALLY SET, UM, EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY GONE UP ABOUT 4% EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S NOT REALLY THE PROBLEM. 
          THE PROBLEM IS THAT OTHER COMPETITORS ARE RISING UP AND THEY'RE SELECTING AND CHERRY PICKING THEIR ARTISTS, AND THEY'RE PUTTING THEM, PUTTING THEM ON, UM, THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN PROS. 
          AND THEY'RE BASICALLY AFTER WHAT'S CALLED WHAT, WHAT THEIR PUBLISHING IS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE AFTER. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO BASICALLY IS LEVEL OUT THE PLAYING FIELD AND SAY, WELL, HEY, THESE GUYS ARE GETTING PAID X OVER HERE, WHICH IS WAY MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE GETTING PAID. 
          LET'S DO SOMETHING SO THAT IF LET'S DO SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN ALSO LIKE, START GETTING PAID BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE GETTING PAID, OR AT LEAST ARGUE THAT WE SHOULD BE PAID WHAT THESE OTHER ARTISTS ARE GETTING PAID. 
          UM, THAT'S THE, THE, THE, THE PRO OF THIS IS THAT IF, IF THIS WERE TO WORK, IF THIS WERE TO WORK, AND IT'S GONNA, I MEAN, WE'RE, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE SOWING SEEDS HERE. 
          I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'RE SOWING SEEDS. 
          THIS IS GONNA TAKE A WHILE, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME. 
          AND THERE'S GONNA BE, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY INCREDIBLE, AMAZING THINGS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO LINE UP ALL AT ONCE IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK. 
          BUT IF IT WORKS, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WILL CHANGE THE GAME, PROBABLY, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, WHAT THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE AT THIS TABLE. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, AND THIS IS THE CON, IS THAT IT COULD GET TIED UP IN BUREAUCRATIC HELL FOR, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THAT OR NOT, BUT IT WILL GET TIED UP IN BUREAUCRATIC HELL FOR A WHILE. 
          THE FIGHT WILL BE VERY ARDUOUS. 
          IT PROBABLY, THE FAILURE, THE RATE OF FAILURE FOR THIS IS PROBABLY HIGH. 
          UM, AND THE FACT THAT, AND JUST BEING VERY HONEST, UH, TALKING TO, UM, UM, UH, I WILL JUST SAY THAT THE PS DON'T REALLY HAVE THE, THE, THE, THE APPETITE TO WANT TO EVEN DEAL WITH THIS. 
          BUT I AM ON THE SIDE OF FAITH IN THE SENSE THAT MAYBE THEY DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THIS, IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK. 
          AND SO IF WE SAID THAT WE WERE BEHIND THEM, MAYBE JUST, MAYBE THEY WOULD WANT TO, UM, GET BACK ON THIS HORSE AND FIGHT THIS BATTLE, WHICH NEEDS, I MEAN, SOMEONE'S GONNA DO IT. 
          IT MIGHT AS WELL BE US TO START IT. 
          THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. 
          DOES IT? IT DOES. 
          UH, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, JUST SO WERE YOU ASKING FOR, UH, FROM, UH, THE, THE BOARD BASICALLY, IS THIS, WE, IF WE WERE TO VOTE ON THIS, THIS, TO PLANT THE SEED, IT'S REALLY EXACTLY THIS IDEA OF, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE CALL ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. 
          EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT? AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE 
          [03:15:01]
LOOKING FOR, AT LEAST FOR, UH, FROM THE BOARD, RIGHT? COMMISSION. 
          EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND, AND I WANNA MAKE THIS CLEAR. 
          SO I KNOW THIS, I'M TALKING A LOT ABOUT ARTISTS RIGHT NOW. 
          I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PR OS CHARGE FEES FOR ARTISTS TO PLAY. 
          THAT'S HOW WE GET PAID BASED ON OUR PERFORMANCE. 
          I GET THAT STUFF TOO. 
          WHAT WE DID WITH THE, I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST PROPOSED THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE PAY INCREASE, UM, FOR MUSICIANS, I INITIALLY WANTED TO BE TWO 50. 
          I GOT COVID, I WASN'T HERE THAT NEXT MONTH. 
          STEPHANIE RA AND YOU GUYS DID AN AMAZING JOB. 
          UM, OR THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS DID AN AMAZING JOB AT GETTING IT AT $200. 
          BUT WHAT WE DID ON THE BACKEND IS WORKED IT WITH, UM, UM, COUNCILMAN ALTER'S OFFICE, RYAN ALTER'S OFFICE, WHERE, UM, THERE WAS LIKE A CAP BASICALLY ON HOW MANY THESE, LIKE BASICALLY AT $200 MUSICIANS WOULD BE PAID $200 PER HOUR EACH MUSICIAN UP TO, I THINK IT'S LIKE EIGHT MUSICIANS OR SOMETHING. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WE CAN ALSO DO ON THE BACKEND, UM, AS IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL, UM, TO REPRESENT VENUES IN AN EQUITABLE WAY, UM, AS WELL, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          UM, BUT THIS WOULD BASICALLY, UM, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRING SHOT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS FOR, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONER KADA? COMMISSIONER. 
          OH, I'M SO SORRY. 
          UH, , I MISS THAT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, I'LL, I'LL GO TO, WE LOOK SO MUCH ALIKE. 
          I I'M SURE YOU GOT US MIXED UP, . 
          UM, SO WITH THESE, THIS, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION, I'M, I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED FURTHER SO PEOPLE HAVE A UNDERSTANDING OF EXACTLY HOW PROS WORK, EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES I DON'T THINK THEY QUITE KNOW HOW THEY WORK OR GET PAID. 
          UM, BUT BECAUSE BMI AND, AND ASCAP FOR SO MANY YEARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAME TO RADIO, WHICH IS A DYING, UM, KIND OF MEDIUM, IT SEEMS FOR A LOT OF MUSICIANS RIGHT NOW THAT THE WAY THAT MUSICIANS ARE GETTING PAID FOR WITH STREAMING COMING INTO PLAY IS WHERE THE KIND OF, WHERE THE GAP IS. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE NEED MAYBE TO GET SOMEONE IN HERE THAT CAN GIVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THESE DIFFERENT PROS WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, SOME WRITERS JOIN ONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THINGS IN MOVIES AND SOME JOIN OTHERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR MUSIC, UM, STREAMING. 
          SO JUST TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE PULL VMI OR ASCAP INTO A FIGHT THAT MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CASAD. 
          UM, I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER BLEVINS, UM, SENTIMENTS, UM, AND, UH, WISDOM ON THIS AS WELL. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, I THINK YOU HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF, UM, WANTING TO ULTIMATELY HELP MUSICIANS AND SONGWRITERS, UM, BE PAID FAIRLY AND WHAT THEY, UM, AND YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, UNABASHEDLY UNAFRAID TO GO AFTER THE, THE TOP DOGS. 
          UM, AND I SINCERELY APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, UH, LIKE COMMISSIONER BLEVIN SAID, I WOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE SMALL CALCULATED STEPS IN, IN DOING THIS. 
          AND PERHAPS A GOOD STEP WOULD BE FOR EVEN JUST BMI, SINCE THEY'RE BASED IN AUSTIN OR AN OFFICE IS BASED IN AUSTIN, TO JUST LIKE, CAN YOU COME TALK TO THE COMMISSION? AND MAYBE IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY ABOUT THIS WHOLE ISSUE, BUT IT'S JUST LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US. 
          LIKE WHAT ARE, WHAT, WHAT WORK ARE YOU DOING HERE? AND WE, AND WE OPEN THIS UP. 
          I'M NOT TRYING, I'M NOT TRYING TO, I AM ULTIMATELY KICKING THIS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IT'S TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRATEGIC WITH HOW WE'RE, UM, GOING ABOUT THIS WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF, UM, NOT JUST, I, I THINK THE ULTIMATE, WE'RE TRYING TO, WITHIN THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO DEFEND BMI AND ASCAP, BUT REALLY WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MUSICIANS BEING PAID FAIRLY. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK WHETHER THEY WANT OUR, WE WANT TO, THEY, WE, THEY WANT US TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR 
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SITUATION. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS A, UH, A VERY FASCINATING TIME THAT WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE TO VERY MUCH PROCEED WITH CAUTION WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THE LEGISLATION AND CORPORATIONS AND THE CULTURAL ARTS. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE, THERE'S SOME GREAT PROGRESS BEING MADE IN TEXAS. 
          LIKE I'VE CITED THE FILM INDUSTRY BEFORE, AND I, I THINK THAT THAT'S BEEN AN A, A PERFECT KIND OF BIPARTISAN PUSH, UM, FOR FILM IN, IN TEXAS. 
          UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT, THAT SINCE WE ARE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND COMMISSIONED THAT WE NEED TO PROCEED CAUTIOUSLY AND, AND WISELY GATHERING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CASADA. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUICK COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OTHERWISE, UH, WHILE WE ARE ON TIME, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. 
          THERE'S NO COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          SO, SO WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU ALL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, UM, VOTING FOR THIS? WELL, I MEAN, I, I, I'LL BE STRAIGHT UP THAT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED SOMEONE FROM BMI OR ASCAP TO SAY THEY WANT US TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF TO OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND WE ALSO, EACH OF US HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PRESENT THINGS, BE FOR THE MAYOR, YOU GUYS FOR YOUR OWN CITY COUNCIL, PEOPLE THAT WERE, THAT WERE VERY, VERY INFORMED AND THAT WE'RE REALLY PUTTING TOGETHER A, YOU KNOW, A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY NEED TO GET BEHIND. 
          BUT WE NEED TO REALLY BACK UP WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. 
          AND THAT'S GOTTA START WITH BMI AND ASCAP. 
          I THINK COMMISSIONER SILVER, YOU'RE ASKING WHAT KIND OF MORE INFORMATION I, I WOULD LIKE. 
          SO I, I JUST DON'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS IMPACTS A LOCAL MUSICIAN OR A LOCAL VENUE. 
          AND, AND YOU MAY HAVE STATED IT EARLIER IN SOME, IN SOME OF YOUR INTRODUCTIONS AND I'VE, I'VE JUST MISSED IT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT, UM, WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, LAST COMMENT PLEASE. 
          AND COMMISSION WE HAVE TO WRAP UP IS THE COMMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ARE THERE ANY, UM, STATE LEGISLATORS THAT MAYBE, UH, YOU'VE TALKED TO THAT MAYBE WE CAN, UM, BECAUSE I, LIKE, I, I, I'M DEFINITELY LOVE WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT AND I THINK I, I MENTIONED PLAN TO SEE I HEAR YOU. 
          I JUST, BUT YEAH, I THINK, UH, ONE THING THAT COME TO MIND FOR ME WAS JUST LIKE, IF THERE'S A STATE LEGISLATOR HERE WHO'S, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY ALSO LIKE, HEY, I'LL BACK YOU GUYS UP ON THIS AS WELL. 
          AND SO WHEN WE MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT, VOTE, UH, AND CITY COUNCIL'S LIKE, HEY, LOOK, THERE IS INTEREST AT THE, AT THE LEGISLATURE AS WELL. 
          SO WE'RE NOT JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M, WHERE, WHERE I'M COMING FROM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, BY THE WAY, SIR. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, MAN. 
          THIS IS A LOOK YOU, I'LL JUST THROW IN ONE OTHER THING. 
          UM, WHEN I, YOU KNOW, RESIGNED FROM BEING THE BOSS LADY AT THE AUSTIN MUSIC AWARDS, I WAS VERY, I WAS FLATTERED TO GET A LETTER FROM, UH, LLOYD DOGGETT THAT KNEW THAT I, THAT, THAT I HAD TRANSITIONED AWAY FROM RUNNING THAT FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          AND, UH, THAT MAY BE A GOOD PLACE TO START, IS LLOYD DO. 
          DOGGETT HAS ALWAYS SEEMED TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, EARS TO THE GROUND FOR THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALWAYS, UM, HAD MUSICIANS. 
          I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING, I THINK HE'S VERY MUCH IN TOUCH WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND WE MAY GATHER SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM HIM. 
          SO I GUESS I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT WE WANT THIS TO WORK OR WE WANT THE END RESULT TO PROBABLY WORK, BUT I THINK WE ALL NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, UM, MOVING ON. 
          WE 
          [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
WILL, UH, TALK ABOUT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, WE HAVE, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUND COLLECTIONS BRIEFING, UM, BY KIM MCC CARSON. 
          UH, WE'LL LEAVE, UH, THE 5 23 AUSTRIAN LIVE MUSIC. 
          ONE FINAL REPORTS TOPIC IN FOR AN UPDATE. 
          UM, THEN, UH, I BELIEVE WE WANT TO SEE AN UPDATE ON AIRPORT MUSIC BOOKING, UH, FROM STAFF, UH, NEXT MONTH. 
          UM, UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS WE, WE'LL PROBABLY LEAVE THE FUNDING GUIDELINES UPDATE FOR THE MOMENT. 
          UH, DO WE SEE HOW THEY WRAP UP IN AUGUST? WE PROBABLY WANT THAT IN RIGHT FROM STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND UH, DO WE WANNA KEEP BRING THIS, UH, TOPIC BACK NEXT MONTH? LET'S KEEP IT ON THAT NOW. 
          COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND DO WE, DO WE WANT TO LEAVE THAT UNDER DISCUSSION ACTION ITEMS AGAIN? YES. 
          OR JUST UNDER A DISCUSSION? NOPE. 
          DISCUSSION AND ACTION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
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THANK YOU. 
          UH, ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT. 
          UM, COULD SOMEBODY MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ENGLAND. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PRICE. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CASADA. 
          UM, AND UH, WE GOOD TO GO? MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ALER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PRICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          UH, LONG MEETING. 
          UH, VERY PRODUCTIVE. 
          UH, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FROM STAFF COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS EVERYONE WHO SHOWED UP FROM COMMUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. 
          THANK YOU.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.