* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] IT IS SIX [CALL TO ORDER] O'CLOCK. I'M GONNA CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION. TONIGHT IS TUESDAY, JULY 15TH. IT IS SIX O'CLOCK. WE ARE IN AUSTIN CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS ROOM 1001. I WILL START BY CALLING THE BOARD, UM, CHAIR HANK SMITH. I'M PRESENT VICE CHAIR BETSY GREENBERG. I SEE HER. BETSY, CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY. UM, SECRETARY RYAN PKI PRESENT. THANK YOU. UH, PARLIAMENTARIAN ALEJANDRA FLORA. SHE EMAILED SAID SHE WAS NOT GONNA MAKE IT. UH, LUIS SLUGO. DO NOT SEE HIM. UH, COMMISSIONER DAVID FS PRESENT. HEY, COMMISSIONER LONNIE STERN. I DO NOT SEE COMMISSIONER LONNIE STERN. UH, COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN SHEPPEY HERE. AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. MAJOR PRESENT. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE SCOTT BOONE JOINED US. DID YOU CALL MY NAME? YES, I DID. THE VERY FIRST. HERE YOU'RE HERE. OKAY. WE'LL MAKE IT OFFICIAL. SO WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. NO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS, UH, PUBLIC [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL ] COMMUNICATION. I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER TO TALK TONIGHT. YES. CHAIR. WE HAVE RYAN SAUNDERS. RYAN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OH, EXCUSE ME. LET'S ACTUALLY USE THAT. YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALRIGHT, IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. UM, SO MY NAME'S RYAN SAUNDERS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE, UH, OFF THE EAST SCISSOR CHAVEZ STREET. UM, HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOME LOOPHOLES AND THE NOISE ORDINANCE. UM, IN ORDER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO GROW RESPONSIBLY, WE, WE NEED TO INCREASE DENSITY. IN ORDER TO HAVE THE RIGHT DENSITY, WE NEED TO BUILD SMALLER. AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO INCLUDE RETAIL AND THESE PROJECTS. BUT ALTHOUGH I'M A HUGE SUPPORTER OF INFILL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, I LIVE IN MIXED USE ZONING AND THERE ARE LOOPHOLES AND REGULATIONS OF SOUND AND INTERACTIONS OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL THAT NEED TO BE FIXED IF WE WERE GONNA GET WIDESPREAD ADOPTION. THE CITY OF AUSTIN REQUIRES COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT USE SOUND EQUIPMENT OUTDOORS IN ANY SPACE, NOT FULLY ENCLOSED BY FOUR SOLID WALLS IN A ROOF TO OBTAIN A OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT. AND THEN FURTHER DEFINES OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WHERE SOUND EQUIPMENT IS USED TO AMPLIFY SOUND THAT IS NOT FULLY ENCLOSED BY PERMANENT SOLID WALLS IN A ROOF. UM, A GARAGE DOOR THAT CAN BE OPENED IS NOT PERMANENT IN A SOLID WALL IN, IN MY OPINION, UH, AMPLIFIED SOUND IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. PROPERTY ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL INTERSECTION 25 2 32 B DOES NOT REQUIRE ELIGIBLE FOR AN OUTDOOR SOUND PERMIT. AUSTIN CITY CODE ALLOWS AMPLIFIED SOUND AND RESIDE CENTRAL PROPERTY FROM 10:00 AM TO 10:00 PM IN A MAXIMUM OF 75 DECIBELS. AND THE AMPLIFIED SOUND MAY NOT BE AUDIBLE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE FROM 10:00 PM TO 10:00 AM UH, DOES NOT STIPULATE WHETHER THAT'S GENERATED INDOORS OR OUTDOORS. THE BARS NEAR MY HOUSE, UH, HAS ONE, HAS THREE WALLS WITH THE FOURTH BEING A GLASS GARAGE DOOR. THE SECOND LEAVES WINDOWS AND DOORS OPEN WITH MUSIC. DJS LIVE MUSIC UNTIL 2:00 AM UH, IF YOU HAVE AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT DURING THE WEEK, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO GO TO 8:00 PM AND ON THE WEEKENDS 10:00 PM BUT IF YOU HAVE NO OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT, YOU'RE NOT, UM, REGULATED BY THE CITY DSD OR CODE ENFORCEMENT. UH, CITY LEGAL DETERMINED THAT THE OPEN GARAGE DOORS AT THE BAR ACROSS FROM MY STREET DOES NOT MAKE IT AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE. WHETHER THE DOORS ARE OPEN OR CLOSED, THE ESTABLISHMENTS PREVENTED TO HAVE MUSIC PLAYING, INCLUDING DJS. UM, SI HAVE AN STR ON ONE SIDE OF MY HOUSE, A FOOD TRUCK PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY HOUSE, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON ANOTHER SIDE, AND THEN A BAR CATTY CORNERED AND EACH HAVE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS. THE RESIDENTIAL CAN'T GO AFTER 10:00 PM THE BAR, IF IT'S INDOORS, CAN GO HOWEVER LATE. THEY WANT DOORS OPEN, GARAGE DOORS OPEN, BUT IF THEY HAVE A SPEAKER OUTSIDE, THEY HAVE TO STOP AT 8:00 PM DURING THE WEEK AND 10:00 PM ON THE WEEKENDS. IF IT'S INDOOR, YOU HAVE TO CALL A PD IF IT'S OUTDOOR. DSD. UH, IF THE VENUE'S TOO CLOSE TO A RESIDENCE, THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT. [00:05:01] IN ORDER TO PROTECT RESIDENTS IF THEY HAVE AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMIT, THEY'RE REGULATED BY CODE DSD AND HAVE TIME LIMITS. BUT WITHOUT, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMITS OR TOO CLOSE TO RESIDENTS TO PROTECT RESIDENTS, THEY WON'T COME OUT TO INSPECT OR REGULATE WITHOUT THE PERMITS. YOU'D STILL HAVE TO CALL A PD AND A PD IS OVER UNDERSTAFFED AND UNDERFUNDED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, RESPOND TO THESE TYPES OF CALLS. THANK YOU. AND CHAIR. THAT CONCLUDES ALL SPEAKERS IN PUBLIC COMMUNICATION CHAIR YOUR MICROPHONE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE COMMENT [APPROVAL OF MINUTES ] ON THE MINUTES? ADAM ONE? IF NOT, THEY'LL BE INCLUDED IN THE, UM, CONSENT AGENDA. SO THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITH THE MINUTES FROM JULY 1ST, 2025. ITEM TWO [PUBLIC HEARINGS ] IS A ZONING CASE, C 14 20 25 DASH 0 5 5 AT 65 12 MCNEIL ESS. IT IS REZONING FROM MY IRR TO CS AND IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 19TH. ITEM THREE IS A ZONING REQUEST C 14 20 25 DASH FOUR FIVE AT 82 34 FERGUSON CUTOFF. IT IS A REZONING CASE OF FROM IRR TO LICO AND IT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. ITEM FOUR IS A REZONING CASE, C 14 20 24 DASH 0 0 0 6 GRADER, WALNUT AREA CENTRALIZED ODOR CONTROL FACILITY. UM, THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN. IT IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM SF THREE TO P PUBLIC AND IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM FIVE IS A REZONING CASE, C 14 20 25 DASH 0 0 6 0 A E MEDICAL AND RETAIL REZONING AT 1 3 6 4 2 NORTH US HIGHWAY 180 3. IT IS A TRACK. ONE IS REZONING FROM GCO AND TRACK TWO IS GOCO AND IS GOING TO FOR TRACK ONE GRCO AND TRACK TWO TO GOCO TO CHANGE A CONDITION OF ZONING, THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 19TH THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. ITEM SIX IS RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TERMINATION C 14 2008 DASH 2024 RCT AE MEDICAL AND RETAIL AMENDMENT AT 1 3 6 4 2 NORTH HIGHWAY 180 3. UH, THE REQUEST TO TERMINATE A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT IMPOSES RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY THAT LIMIT THE OPERATIONAL HOURS BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 10:00 PM AND REQUIRES THE INSTALLATION OF LANDSCAPE VEGETATIVE BUFFERS ALONG INTERIOR PROPERTY LINES ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT REQUEST FROM EIGHT 19 AS THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AS WELL. ITEM SEVEN IS A PUT AMENDMENT CA 14 DASH ZERO FOUR DASH 0 180 7 0 3 SH GOODNIGHT RANCH PUD AMENDMENT THE REQUEST THAT CITY INITIATE A PUT AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE TO AMEND CONDITIONS OF ZONING AND WAIVERS OR MODIFICATIONS TO SEE A CODE REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF GOODNIGHT RANCH PUD. THE APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT REQUEST IS TO AUGUST 19TH AND THAT IS, UM, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. AND SO THAT IS ON THE CONSENTED AGENDA. POSTPONEMENT TO EIGHT 19. ITEM EIGHT IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SPC 2024 DASH 0 8 3 C PFLUGERVILLE ISD SUPPORT SERVICES, PARKING AT 2021 CRYSTAL BEND DRIVE. THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING THE ADDITION OF COVERED PARKING IN A STORAGE BUILDING ON AN EXISTING PARKING FACILITY SITE OWNED BY PFLUGERVILLE ISD. THE SITE PLAN MUST BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS PUBLIC ZONING. IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL, ITEM NINE, SITE PLAN EXTENSION SP 2019 DASH 0 1 0 7 C XT TWO CAMERON RETAIL IS THE SITE PLAN EXTENSION. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A THREE YEAR EXTENSION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR COMMISSION APPROVAL. IT IS RECOMMENDED AND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ? YES. COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, ITEM A, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE CAN DO IT RIGHT. YES. PLANNING COMMISSION BEC YES, PLA PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CAN DO THIS AS WELL. ANY LAND USE COMMISSION CAN DO THIS. SO THE BACKUP DOES SAY PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT WE'RE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. UM, WE CAN'T APPROVE THAT. UM, SO AGAIN, THE APPROVAL, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM ITEM ONE. ITEM TWO IS A POSTPONEMENT TO EIGHT 19. ITEM THREE IS CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM FOUR IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. ITEM FIVE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO EIGHT 19. ITEM SIX IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO EIGHT 19. UH, ITEM SEVEN IS AN APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO EIGHT 19. NUMBER EIGHT IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS NOTED BY THE, IT'LL BE APPROVED BY THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. AND ITEM NINE IS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FOR APPROVAL AS WELL FOR A SITE PLAN EXTENSION. DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? OH, CHAIR. WE DO HAVE, UM, SPEAKERS ONLINE. SORRY, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER. UM, YES. SO, UM, THE APPLICANT, WE HAVE A, THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM TWO. UM, THIS AGAIN IS FOR POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 19TH. [00:10:01] CARL CROWLEY, WHO IS JOINING US VIRTUALLY CARL GOING PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR COMMENTS. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. UH, THIS IS CARL BRAWLEY, UH, 33 33 WEBER, UH, DALLAS, TEXAS. UM, JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA STAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CRYSTAL LIMUS. UH, CRYSTAL IS JOINING US VIRTUALLY PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR COMMENTS. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. UM, GOING ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. UM, IF THEY POP UP, THEY'LL GO BACK. SO FOR ITEM SIX, WE HAVE OUR PRIMARY SPEAKER, UM, MAC HOLDER, WHO IS IN OPPOSITION AGAINST NEIGHBOR POSTPONEMENT FOR EIGHT 19. UM, MAC HAS NINE MINUTES. HE'S ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE POSTPONEMENT, NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THE POSTPONEMENT. OKAY. SO NEXT SPEAKER. HE'S NOT HERE. UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS JANETT TABOR. NEXT SPEAKER. CINDY BARON. OKAY. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FOR ITEM NINE. UM, STEVEN JAMESON, WHO IS THE APPLICANT WHO IS JOINING US. VIRTUALLY STEVEN GOING PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH THEIR, NO, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS CHAIR. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER FOUTS HAS MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND. WHO WAS THAT? THERE WERE MANY. OKAY. I CAN'T, I CAN'T SEE IF THE, THE, THE DAAS. UM, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OKAY. FOR THE SECOND I'M GONNA GO WITH GREENBERG. YOU'RE THE ONE I CAN SEE UP THERE, SO I CAN'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE. , YOU STAND OUT WITH A FLORAL ADDRESS. OKAY. UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM 10, DISCUSSION AND ACTION. TO APPROVE THE 2024 ANNUAL INTERNAL REVIEW AND REPORT. UM, THIS WAS AN ITEM PUT UP BY CHAIRMAN SMITH AND VICE CHAIR GREENBERG AND VICE CHAIR GREENBERG. YOU DID THE YEOMAN'S WORK ON. THIS IS A VERY GOOD ITEM. IT LOOKS A LOT LIKE LAST YEAR'S. UM, , DO I HEAR [DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS ] ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 10, THE INTERNAL REVIEW AND REPORT? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE COMMISSIONER GREENBERG? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. IT IS UNANIMOUS APPROVED. ITEM 11, DISCUSSION IN ACTION TO APPOINT A MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE. UH, THIS WAS SPONSORED BY CHAIR SMITH AND VICE-CHAIR GREENBERG. CURRENTLY THE MEMBERS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR MYSELF, VICE CHAIR GREENBERG AND COMMISSIONER F, WHO IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THAT COMMISSION. DO WE KNOW? WE'RE LOOKING FOR A A POINT A MEMBER, BUT WHOSE SPOT ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE? OH, WE DIDN'T LOSE A MEMBER. WELL, THE MEMBERS ARE, UM, SMITH, GREENBERG AND FOUTS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON THE, I'M READING FROM THE BACKUP. SO IT MAY NOT BE . I DON'T THINK FILES IS ON. THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS ON THE BACKUP. WELL, COMMISSIONER F, IS HE HERE? YES, I'M HERE. HE'S RIGHT HERE. ARE YOU AND I'M JUST AS CONFUSED ARE, HE'S AS CONFUSED AS WE ARE. WE WANNA POSTPONE THIS TO NEXT MONTH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, . WELL IF HE'S, IF THE THREE OF US ARE CURRENTLY ON, WE DON'T NEED AN ITEM TO, WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER MEMBER. RIGHT. WE WERE TOLD BY THE, UM, THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, THAT THERE WAS STILL ONE VACANCY ON THAT, ON THAT JOINT COMMITTEE FROM ZAP AND PLANNING COMMISSION. AND SO WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT ON JUST TO BE SAFE. I THOUGHT PLANNING COMMISSION WAS SHORT ONE PERSON, BUT I DON'T THINK ZAP O IS. WELL, I THINK I LOOKED AND IT SAID THAT THERE WERE TWO MISSING, BUT THERE, THERE ARE CURRENTLY TWO VACANCIES WE SAW FROM THE BACKEND, FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT IT DID SAY THAT THERE WAS ONE FROM ZAP. BUT WE CAN ALSO POSTPONE AND COME BACK TO THIS LATER TIME. OKAY. LET'S POSTPONE BECAUSE THAT WE HAVE THREE AND WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS ON, SO I'M NOT SURE WE CAN BRING THIS UP NEXT TIME. CODES AND ORDERS IS [WORKING GROUP/COMMITTEE UPDATES ] A JOINT COMMITTEE. YOU NEED UPDATE. UM, THERE'S A MEETING TOMORROW TO CONSIDER, UM, REGULATIONS OR CODE RELATED TO DRAINAGE EASEMENTS THAT ARE ON CITY OF AUSTIN PARK PROPERTY TO REDUCE THE TIME AND COST OF THE PROCESS. OKAY. COMPETENCY PLAN TO JOINT COMMITTEE. WE MEETING WAS CANCELED LAST MONTH FOR A LACK OF A QUORUM. , WE NEED MORE MEMBERS. UH, SMALL AREA PLANNING, JOINT COMMITTEE. ANY UPDATE? NO UPDATES, HEARING NONE. LAND USE, COMMISSION ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES, WORK GROUP. SO WE MET, UH, LAST [00:15:01] TUESDAY AND BASICALLY HAD A DISCUSSION AND CAME UP WITH A BROAD FRAMEWORK OKAY. FOR HOW WE MIGHT DECIDE WHAT CASE GOES TO, UM, TO US OR TO PLANNING COMMISSION. DO YOU WANT ME TO SHARE THAT BRIEFLY NOW? SURE. SO REAL GENERAL THINGS THAT ARE SITE SPECIFIC WOULD GO TO US, WHEREAS THINGS THAT ARE PLANNING, PLANNING MORE POLICY BASED WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THINGS LIKE ZONING CASES, SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS, AMEND AMENDMENTS, VARIANCES, DENSITY, BON BONUSES, PLATS, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, UM, COVENANTS, UH, SITE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD AMENDMENTS, WHICH ARE APPARENTLY QUITE COMMON. UM, AND THEN WE'RE STILL KIND OF LOOKING AT PUDS AND PDAS 'CAUSE WE COULDN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCE. , UM, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, THERE'S AN UPDATE TO THEIR, UM, BUT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION GENERALLY BROADER THINGS, MORE POLICY BASED SUCH AS NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS, AREA PLANS, POTENTIALLY THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS, UM, MIGHT BE SOMETHING THEY'D BE INTERESTED TO HANGING ON TO. UM, POLICY LEGISLATION, UM, REVIEWING IT, MAKING IT AND ANALYZING IT. UH, BRAND NEW, UM, ETOS AS OPPOSED TO REVIEWING AMENDMENTS TO CURRENT ONES. UH, CITYWIDE PLAN REVIEWS, UM, AND LAND USE ZONING ZONING BY CATEGORY AS OPPOSED TO LIKE, SUCH AS THINGS THAT WOULD APPLY CITYWIDE MM-HMM . SUCH AS A CHANGE TO A, YOU KNOW, WHAT A PARTICULAR ZONING CATEGORY WOULD MEAN. RIGHT. FOR THE WHOLE CITY. UM, SO THAT'S BROADLY WHAT IT IS. ANYONE ELSE WHO WAS THERE WANNA JUMP IN? YES. COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. I WASN'T, I I WASN'T THERE BUT, UM, AUDIT AND FINANCE, UM, COMMITTEE IS MEETING I THINK THIS WEEK, MAYBE TOMORROW. AND THEY TALK ABOUT CERTAIN, UM, COMMISSIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT AND OURS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. HMM. OKAY. SO YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT THAT. UM, PRESENTATION FROM AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE FROM YESTERDAY. OKAY. NO, NOT YESTERDAY. MAYBE TOMORROW. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? UH, CHAIR, I WOULD SIMPLY ADD THAT, UH, WE HAVE A GOOGLE DOC AND WE'RE COMPILING A LIST OF, UH, REALLY JUST, JUST, JUST PUTTING THE LIST THAT COMMISSIONER FAU JUST WENT THROUGH ON PAPER. OKAY. SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE REST OF ZAP AND THEN KIND OF ONCE ZAP IS OKAY WITH IT, UH, WE'LL PROBABLY REACH OUT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS? UH, BUT, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE JUST WANNA SAY, HEY LIST, HERE ARE THE LIST OF THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT, UH, WE THINK ZAP SHOULD BE 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR. AND THEN OVER TIME IF WE NEED TO ADD THINGS OR REMOVE IT, NO PROBLEM. BUT THAT'S KIND OF OUR STARTING POINT. LIKE, HEY GUYS, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE 100% ZAPS JURISDICTION. WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE FULL ZAP AND ONCE ZAPS OKAY WITH IT, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THE PLANNING FOLKS AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS? AND, AND, AND WORK TOWARDS HAVING BOTH BODIES, UH, PASS THE SAME RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A SPECIFIC LIST OF WORK FOR ZAP BECAUSE AS WE SAW TONIGHT, UH, THERE ARE SOME, SOME DIVISIONS OF LABOR THAT CAN GO TO EITHER EITHER COMMITTEE AND WE WANNA DO OUR BEST TO ASSIST PLANNING COMMISSION SO THEY DON'T HAVE FOUR HOUR MEETINGS EVERY TIME THEY MEET. OKAY. SO IF WE CAN GET THAT DISTRIBUTED BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN DISCUSS IT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM NEXT TIME. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM. WE CAN JUST DISCUSS IT HERE, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. ANY FUTURE AGENDA [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ] ITEMS? YES. COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. IT'S NOT REALLY A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN TO BRING IT UP. UM, GOING OVER THE, UM, AUDIT FOR THIS COMMISSION, WE PASSED NEW RULES AND THE RULES ARE STILL NOT POSTED. THE RULES THAT ARE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE ARE FROM 2018. AND ALSO THE, UM, SPEAKER TIMES ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE RULES SAY BECAUSE IT ON OUR AGENDAS BECAUSE THEY SAY SIX MINUTES FOR THE APPLICANT AND THEN SIX MINUTES FOR THE PERSON IN FAVOR. AND IT'S NOT TWO OF THOSE. RIGHT? IT'S JUST ONE OR THE OTHER. OKAY. SO I THINK THE AGENDA SHOULD BE CORRECTED AND DEFINITELY THE WEBSITE SHOULD BE CORRECTED PROVIDED, COUNCIL APPROVED WHAT OUR, WHAT WE DID THEN YEAH, IF YOU [00:20:01] CAN JUST LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT THE STATUS IS. OKAY. WELL WE DON'T NEED APPROVAL TO CHANGE OUR RULES. OKAY. ONLY IF WE TRIED TO CHANGE THE BYLAWS. BYLAWS. OKAY. SO IF WE, IF WE CAN GET THOSE POSTED STAFF'S NODDING THEIR HEAD THAT THEY WILL LOOK INTO THAT AND GET THAT DONE. THANK YOU FOR LOOKING THAT OVER. ANYTHING ELSE? IF NOT, IT IS SIX 20 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.