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IT'S NINE 30

[CALL TO ORDER]

IN THE MORNING ON JULY 16TH, 2025.

AND I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE OF THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL FOR A REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

IT IS, AS I'VE INDICATED, WEDNESDAY, JULY 16TH, 2025.

WE HAVE A QUORUM OF THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE PRESENT IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED AT CITY HALL AT 3 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

UH, THE MEMBERS, THE WAY WE WILL GO IS WE

[Public Communication: General]

WILL START WITH PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, AND I'M GONNA ASK MR. COBB IF HE'LL MAKE HIS WAY TO THE PODIUM.

WHILE HE'S DOING THAT.

UH, WE WILL THEN GO TO, UH, THE ITEMS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE LISTED ON YOUR, ON YOUR AGENDA.

AND, UM, SO JUST BE PREPARED FOR THAT.

MR. COBB.

UH, LET ME RECOGNIZE YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOU RECOGNIZE, UH, MY NAME IS SCOTT COBB.

UM, I WORK FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A REPORT THAT Y'ALL HEARD MY SIX WEEKS OR A COUPLE MONTHS AGO CALLED THE CITY DOES NOT MANAGE ALL DISCRIMINATION, HARASSMENT, AND RETALIATION COMPLAINTS EFFECTIVELY OR CONSISTENTLY.

AND, UH, IT GOES ON IN THE REPORT TO SAY THAT UNTIL THESE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED, EMPLOYEES CANNOT TRUST THAT THE CITY WILL RESERVE, WILL RESOLVE THEIR CONCERNS.

AND I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BEEN PERIPHERALLY ADDRESSED.

I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE THING IN MY THREE MINUTE TIMES, BUT I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH YOU IN YOUR OFFICE.

I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SUSAN SINS AND, UH, SUSANNA CARBO.

WE KNOW, IT TOOK ME OVER AN HOUR TO EXPLAIN TO THEM I SAW HER.

I THOUGHT I SAW HER MINUTE.

OH, SHE WAS BACK IN THE BACK.

YEAH.

SO, UM, ANYHOW, THERE, THERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT THAT SPECIFICALLY OR DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE ISSUES WE'VE BEEN RAISING ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT, SUCH AS THE LACK OF INTERVIEWS OF, UH, POTENTIAL WITNESSES, UH, LACK OF INTERVIEWS OF PEOPLE WHO FILE COMPLAINTS, UH, LACK OF CLOSEOUT MEETINGS.

I KNOW NOT ALL THE COMPLAINTS HAVE TO DO WITH HARASSMENT.

RETALIATION.

I KNOW I PERSONALLY FILED A COMPLAINT DURING COVID ABOUT THE RULES NOT BEING EFFECTIVELY ENFORCED OR FOLLOWED BY OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM RESULTING IN ME GETTING CO AT WORK, TO WHICH I ENDED UP TAKING VARIOUS MEDICATIONS THAT I STILL HAVE TO TAKE.

BUT I WAS NEVER INTERVIEWED, NO WITNESSES WERE EVER INTERVIEWED.

ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS GO TO BARTON SPRINGS AND ASK ANY LIFEGUARD WHO AROUND HERE IS NOT FOLLOWING THE, THE RULES OF THE CITY.

AND THEY WOULD'VE EASILY SAID WHO IT WAS.

BUT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT, UH, CONDUCT ANY INTERVIEWS, THEY DIDN'T INTERVIEW ME AND THE OTHER WITNESSES, THEY FOUND NO SUBSTANTIATION.

NOW IT'S EVEN MORE TRAGIC WHEN IT'S A CASE ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

THERE IS A CASE WITH TWO PEOPLE NAMED IN, UH, OR SEXUAL HARASSMENT COMPLAINT.

AND THE HR INVESTIGATOR SAID, WELL, IN THE ACTUAL REPORT, THEY DIDN'T INTERVIEW THE EITHER OF THOSE TWO POTENTIAL VICTIMS OR THE, BUT IN THE REPORT, THEY, THEY SAID, WELL, WE LOOKED AT THE FILES OF THE TWO PEOPLE WHO SAID, THEY SAID, WERE, DID THIS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS, AND THERE FILES ABOUT THIS, THEREFORE, WE ARE NOT GOING, WE DID NOT INTERVIEW THEM ABOUT THIS COMPLAINT.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S REALLY ABSURD.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE DEFINITELY A LOT MORE TRAINING DONE BY HR ABOUT HOW TO CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MR. COBB.

UH, AND FOR YOUR INTEREST, UM, MEMBERS, THOSE ARE THAT MR. COBB IS THE ONLY ONE THAT SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, SO WE WILL GO

[1. Approve the minutes of the May 19, 2025, Special Called Audit and Finance Committee Meeting.]

TO ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 19TH, 2025 SPECIAL CALL TO AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER MOVES, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER VELA.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION WITHOUT OBJECTION? ITEM NUMBER ONE IS ADOPTED.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

THAT WILL TAKE US TO

[2. Draft sunset review process and update on actions taken relevant to Council Resolution 20241212-133 regarding review of and recommendations to improve the clarity of purpose and efficient operation of current boards and commissions, task forces, council corporations, and intergovernmental bodies. [ Stephanie Hall, Assistant to the City Clerk - Office of the City Clerk; Jessica Ferrari, Assistant to the City Manager - Management Services]]

BRIEFINGS.

THE FIRST BRIEFING IS, UH, WITH REGARD IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, AND THAT'S, UM, GENERALLY REFERRED TO AS THE DRAFT SUNSET REVIEW PROCESS, AND UPDATE.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M STEPHANIE HALL, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, AND WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE PREVIOUS REPORT THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE COMMITTEE BACK IN FEBRUARY.

JUST AS A QUICK RECAP OF WHERE THINGS STAND, OH, LET ME JUST GO TO THE FIRST PAGE THERE.

WE JUST WANNA DO A QUICK REVIEW OF THAT FOR THE FIRST DIRECTIVE

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IN THAT RESOLUTION.

THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED GLADLY LAST YEAR REGARDING THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

WE DID REACH OUT EARLY JANUARY BEFORE WE CAME IN FEBRUARY AND NOTIFIED THE BOARDS THAT REALLY SAW ON THE APPENDIX.

WE RAN A SURVEY THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COMPLETED.

UH, NUMBER TWO IS ACTUALLY KIND OF OUR GOAL TODAY AS PART OF THE DEVELOPING PROCESS.

WE WANNA BRING BACK AN UPDATE AND OUTLINE AND UPDATED FRAMEWORK.

UH, THE THIRD POINT IS ALSO PENDING IN PROCESS, BUT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT'S DRAFTED AND WE'LL BE POSTED FOR AN UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT IS TO KIND OF IDENTIFY AND CODIFY THE PROCESS FOR APPOINTING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO OTHER BODIES AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES.

THE FOURTH POINT WAS TO DEVELOP A WEBSITE THAT HOSTED ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE'VE COMPLETED THAT, AND IT ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH SOME ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS RECENTLY AS WE DID AN UPGRADE FOR ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SEARCH.

AND THEN FINALLY, THERE WAS A TRANSLATION SERVICES PIECE THAT IS SERVICES THAT WE ALREADY DO PROVIDE TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT THERE IS AN UPDATED GUIDANCE OF, UM, PROVIDING LANGUAGE ACCESS THAT WILL BE GOING OUT, THAT INCLUDES MORE DETAILS ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WILL BE GOING OUT LATER THIS MONTH.

THE MAIN THING WE WANTED TO BRING TODAY WAS A REFINED AND PROPOSED FRAMEWORK SO THAT WE CAN START MOVING ON A REVIEW PROCESS.

SO WE'D LIKE TO OUTLINE THOSE STEPS FOR YOU AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

THE FIRST STEP IN OUR FRAMEWORK WOULD, OF COURSE, BE TO IDENTIFY THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING THROUGH THIS VIEW.

AND AS PART OF THAT FIRST STEP, WE WANNA IDENTIFY ARE THEY CONSIDERED ACTIVE OR NOT.

AND TO DO THAT, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN CITY CODE TO GIVE US PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THESE BODIES TO DETERMINE ARE THEY MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS IN THEIR BYLAWS FOR MEETINGS, WHICH IS USUALLY MONTHLY.

NEXT, ARE THEY MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS IN CODE, WHICH IS QUARTERLY.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT IN CODE THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET FOR SIX MONTHS.

SO WE WOULD MAKE SURE BEFORE WE START REVIEWING THOSE, IF THEY'RE CONSIDERED ACTIVE OR INACTIVE BASED ON THIS CRITERIA ALREADY OUTLINED.

THE SECOND STEP WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE IS WE WOULD TAKE A LEGAL REVIEW AT THOSE BODIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, AND DO THEY MEET ANY, DO THEY HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT MEET STATUTORY RULES OR ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER MAINTAINS RULES OF LAW SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP, WHAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN, WHAT'S REGULATED BY THE STATE, OR WHAT'S REGULATED BY FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

THE NEXT STEP, WE WOULD JUMP INTO AN EVALUATION OF EACH BOARD AND COMMISSION.

THIS STEP IS TO KIND OF BUILD OFF SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY ALREADY EXISTS.

IT'S REQUIRED IN CODE FOR EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION CALLED THE ANNUAL REVIEW AND REPORT.

IT'S SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE ANNUALLY.

SO WE'RE BOUNCING OFF OF THAT AND BUILDING IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND OUR IDEA WOULD BE TO EXPAND THE, THE SCOPE OF THE ANNUAL REPORT A LITTLE BIT AND INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL MEMBERS ARE ENGAGED, HOW THEY FEEL COMMUNITIES ENGAGED, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS.

BUT THE CORE OF THAT REPORT IS, ARE THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IN COMPLIANCE OR IN INTERACTIVE WITH THEIR MANDATES.

AND THEN TO OUTLINE WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE.

AND TO KIND OF CLARIFY IF THEY ARE IN FURTHERANCE OF THOSE DIRECTIVE, WE DID COME UP WITH LIKE A SAMPLE SURVEY OF HOW WE THINK THIS FORM COULD LOOK LIKE AND WORK.

AND THAT IS ALSO THE BACKUP FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW, COMPLETE THIS, WE ALSO THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE STAFF THAT IS STAFFING THOSE COMMISSIONS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

SO THEY WOULD ALSO BE ASKED TO FILL OUT THE VERY SIMILAR FORM AND GIVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND INSIGHTS ON THESE, ON THESE ASSESSMENT QUESTIONS.

AFTER WE HAVE THAT VIEW OF THE SELF-EVALUATION.

THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS, OF COURSE, WE, WE VALUE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE STAKEHOLDERS AND TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THIS.

INSTEAD OF USING A SURVEY, WE THOUGHT WHAT MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL AND HELPFUL IS FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE UNDER THIS REVIEW PROCESS TO HAVE AN ITEM ON AND A UPCOMING AGENDA WHERE THEY HAVE TIME TO ASK THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND GIVE FEEDBACK TO HOW THEY FEEL THE BORDER COMMISSION IS DOING.

THESE ARE JUST SOME POTENTIAL ASSESSMENT QUESTIONS.

HOW DO STAKEHOLDERS VIEW IT? ARE THERE CONCERNS THE PUBLIC HAS? BUT WE WOULD WORK WITH LAW TO HAVE A POSTING LANGUAGE, SO THERE WAS A, AN OPPORTUNITY OR SOME KIND OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK OR FORUM AT A BOARD OF COMMISSION MEETING FOR THEM TO COLLECT THIS INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC OR STAKEHOLDERS.

AND THEN FOR THE NEXT STEP, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TURN OVER TO JEFF.

OKAY.

THANKS STEPHANIE.

UM, AND GOOD MORNING, MARY AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JESS FERRARI, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND I'VE BEEN SUPPORTING WITH THE RESPONSE TO THIS RESOLUTION SINCE YOUR LAST UPDATE IN FEBRUARY.

SO STEPHANIE JUST WALKED US THROUGH THE FIRST FOUR STEPS OF THE FRAMEWORK, UM, THE DATA COLLECTION ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION IN STEP ONE, THE LEGAL REVIEW IN STEP TWO, THE SELF-ASSESSMENT, UH, FROM THE BOARD AND COMMISSION AND STAFF, STAFF AND EXECUTIVE LIAISONS IN STEP THREE, AND THE PUBLIC INPUT IN STEP FOUR.

AND SO STEP FIVE IS REALLY TO COMPILE THIS DATA INTO A CONDENSED REPORT WHERE EACH SECTION OF THE REPORT WILL BE A SECTION OF THE FRAMEWORK.

UM, AND THEN AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WILL BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT REPORT THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE MAIN DATA POINTS, UH, FROM

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THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED IN THE FRAMEWORK.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPORT IS REALLY, UH, TO SERVE AS A TOOL TO HELP YOU MAKE AN INITIAL RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE BORDER COMMISSION AS IS RECOMMEND A RESTRUCTURING OF THE BORDER COMMISSION, MAYBE CHANGING ITS CHARGE OR MERGING IT WITH ANOTHER BORDER COMMISSION, OR ULTIMATELY DECIDING WHETHER YOU'D LIKE TO SUNSET THAT BORDER COMMISSION.

THE ASSESSMENT QUESTIONS THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT ASK YOURSELVES TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION.

SO DOES THE BORDER COMMISSION HAVE A CLEARLY DEFINED MISSION THAT ALIGNS WITH CURRENT CITY GOALS AND PRIORITIES? ARE THERE ANY NEW OR EMERGING NEEDS THAT THE BORDER COMMISSION SHOULD ADDRESS TO REMAIN RELEVANT? COULD OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS TAKE OVER THE FUNCTIONS OF THIS BORDER COMMISSION? ARE CITY RESOURCES BEING USED EFFICIENTLY TO SUPPORT THIS BODY AND WILL SUNSETTING THIS BOARD OR COMMISSION IMPACT THE COMMUNITY? AND SO ONCE YOU REVIEW THE REPORT AND ANALYZE THE FINDINGS, WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL MAKE AN INITIAL RECOMMENDATION TO EITHER CONTINUE, RESTRUCTURE, OR SUNSET THAT BOARD AND COMMISSION.

AND OF COURSE, THAT INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WILL GO TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION.

AND IN ESSENCE, THAT'S THE PROPOSED FRAMEWORK.

SO SINCE IT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED TO YOU IN FEBRUARY, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME CHANGES.

WE'VE CONDENSED IT A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT A MORE TANGIBLE FRAMEWORK THAT'S COLLECTING THE KIND OF DATA THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT BOARD OR COMMISSION ON ANY GIVEN YEAR.

AND SO WHAT DO OUR NEXT STEPS LOOK LIKE FROM HERE? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS FRAMEWORK.

DO YOU THINK THAT IT WOULD COLLECT THE KIND OF DATA THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE THAT INITIAL RECOMMENDATION? AND IF NOT, WHAT DO YOU FEEL LIKE IS MISSING? THESE ARE YOUR, YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, RIGHT? THEY GIVE YOU POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEY HELP YOU STAY CONNECTED WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO IN THE EVALUATION PROCESS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD BE COLLECTING THE KIND OF DATA THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

AND THEN ONCE WE TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY AND, AND FINALIZE THAT, WE'D LIKE TO CONDUCT A PILOT WITH A SELECTION OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LISTED IN APPENDIX A.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WERE LISTED AS AN ACTIVE IN APPENDIX A.

AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE ON YOUR SCREEN AS WELL AS THE TECHNOLOGY COMMISSION, THE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY COMMISSION, THE M-B-E-W-B-E AND SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE PROCUREMENT PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THAT, THAT ONE'S A MOUTHFUL.

JUST SUNSET THE NAME OF THAT.

YEAH, .

EXACTLY.

UM, AND THESE THREE IN PARTICULAR ARE LISTED BECAUSE YOU MIGHT REMEMBER IN THE RESOLUTION, UH, YOU ASKED STAFF TO COME FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A REGULAR CADENCE OF REVIEW FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

AND WHILE WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY, UM, OUR IDEA IS THAT EVERY, UH, YEAR YOU WOULD BE REVIEWING 5, 6, 7 BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS THAT FOLLOW SIMILAR POLICY AREAS.

AND THAT WAY, IF YOU'D MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MERGE A BOARD OR COMMISSION, YOU WOULD BE REVIEWING THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO THESE THREE IN PARTICULAR WERE LISTED AS POTENTIAL MERGERS IN APPENDIX A.

AND SO WE THINK IT WILL HELP SIMULATE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

AND THEN THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION, UM, IS LISTED FOR VARIETY.

UM, AND SO LASTLY, WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK TO YOU IN OCTOBER WITH THE RESULTS OF THAT PILOT.

AND THE REASON THAT'S NOT, UH, SEPTEMBER OR AUGUST, IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO GET THE PUBLIC INPUT ON THEIR OWN AGENDAS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH A COMPLETE IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROCESS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO DO THAT.

AND WITH THAT, UM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS FRAMEWORK.

AND STEPHANIE AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MEMBERS.

COUNCIL MEMBER CHER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS.

UH, I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT KIND ALL ELEMENTS OF OUR GOVERNMENT.

HOW'S IT WORKING? ARE THERE REDUNDANCIES? ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE AND JUST MAKE MORE EFFECTIVE? UM, I WANT TO REALLY HONE IN ON STEP NUMBER FIVE AND JUST BETTER UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR HAS BEEN THROUGH A NUMBER OF SUNSET PROCESSES, AND WHEN THE SUNSET COMMISSION WOULD REVIEW AN AGENCY, THEY WOULD DO A LOT OF THE REVIEW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN THEY WOULD MAKE A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

YOU KNOW, HERE ARE THE FIVE THINGS THAT WE THINK EITHER THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE OR EVEN ULTIMATELY RECOMMEND SUNSETTING THAT DEPARTMENT.

AND SO IN FRAMEWORK NUMBER OR, UM, STEP NUMBER FIVE, THE EVALUATION, I THINK THESE ARE THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO BE ASKING.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE MISSION? IS THERE OVERLAP? COULD IT BE MERGED? WHAT I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT, I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION ON, IT SAYS THAT

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THE AUDIT FINANCE COMMITTEE IS THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY.

SO WE'LL STAFF ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND BRING IT TO US, AND THEN WE WILL REVIEW THAT.

OR ARE WE THE ONES SAYING, ARE THERE NEW AND EMERGING NEEDS THAT THE BOARD SHOULD ADDRESS BASED ON OTHER INFORMATION? OR IS IT BOTH? OR BOTH? YEAH.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, AND I THINK OUR INITIAL APPROACH WAS THAT STAFF WOULD BE COLLECTING THE, THE DATA THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR YOU TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, AND THAT STAFF WOULDN'T MAKE AN INITIAL RECOMMENDATION.

HOWEVER, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE, THEN WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN THE PROCESS IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU.

BUT I THINK OUR APPROACH WAS, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT HELP YOU WITH YOUR, UH, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND KEEP YOU CONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO IN SOME WAYS, IT MIGHT BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR STAFF TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

'CAUSE IT WILL BE ULTIMATELY UP TO YOU.

BUT AGAIN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU, WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN THE PROCESS.

WELL, I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS.

I PERSONALLY WOULD FIND IT HELPFUL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE THE DIGGING YEAH.

TO SAY, AFTER ALL THIS WORK, THIS IS OUR ANALYSIS.

YOU MIGHT DISAGREE, BUT HERE IS OUR RECOMMENDATION AND OUR ANALYSIS.

YEAH.

MIND IF I INTERRUPT? UM, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT'S BASED, YEAH, I WAS GONNA, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE I, I KNOW HE AND I MAY MIGHT BE BIASED BY EDUCATION THROUGH A PROCESS, RIGHT.

UH, THROUGH THE SUNSET COMMISSION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND MANY YEARS OF SERVICE ON THAT.

BUT OTHERWISE, IT JUST ENDS UP BEING A DATA DUMP.

AND, AND THEN WE'RE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT AND, AND, AND, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DO RELY UPON STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THINGS .

UM, AND SO I, I THINK THAT WHAT WE WANT IS A RECOMMENDATION.

SURE.

AND IF YOU FEEL INSECURE, ULTIMATELY FEEL IN SOMEWHAT INSECURE ABOUT SOMETHING FOR A REASON, LET US KNOW THAT.

RIGHT.

AND, AND THAT'S JUST PART OF THE REPORT BACK TO US.

THEN LET THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MAKE ITS RECOMMENDATIONS BASED UPON THAT.

AND, AND, UH, OTHERWISE WE'RE HAVING TO ANALYZE DATA AND IT JUST, IT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE SAME WAY AND WITH THE SAME ROBUST APPROACH, I THINK.

SURE.

AND YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER VELA? I, I AGREE WITH, UH, BOTH OF, UH, MY COLLEAGUES AND WOULD ALSO SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OVERLAPS ARE.

YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE KIND OF AT THE END OF THE, THE PROCESS AND, AND, AND I COULDN'T TELL YOU NECESSARILY THAT, UH, LET'S SAY THE, THE WHAT IT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE, THE, THE, THE, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE I, YOU ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE HANDLING THE DAY-TO-DAY WORK OF THE COMMISSION, I THINK ARE IN A BETTER POSITION TO SAY THAT THESE COMMISSIONS ARE DOING THE SAME THING AND ABLE TO, TO NOTE THAT AND, AND KICK THAT UP TO US AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE THINK THEY SHOULD BE MERGED, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MY MY SENSE OF IT IS JUST, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE KIND OF RECEIVE EVERYTHING FROM THE COMMISSIONS, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KIND OF WATCH THE SAUSAGE GET MADE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL.

AGAIN, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

UH, AND, AND SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GET THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN, UH, INVOLVED AND ENGAGED WITH THE COMMISSIONS.

YEAH.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK.

AND SO WHAT WE DO PROBABLY THEN IN OUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARIES, PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE DATA FROM EACH OF THOSE SECTIONS.

AND THEN THAT AT THE END OF THAT EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, PROVIDE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER.

AND, AND I WOULD JUST TO TIE BOW ON IT, ULTIMATELY AS Y'ALL FORM THIS, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE LIAISON OR SOMEONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT LIAISON IS OFTEN THAT TRUSTED PERSON BETWEEN, UH, THE COMMISSION OR BOARD AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR OTHER STAFF.

I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY PUT THAT PERSON IN A POSITION WHERE THE BOARD OR COMMISSION DOESN'T TRUST THEM BECAUSE THEY THINK, OH, THIS PERSON IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, DO ONE THING OR ANOTHER.

SO JUST AS, AS THE REVIEWER, WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS, I JUST WANNA BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.

YEAH.

DYNAMIC.

BUT OTHERWISE, THAT'S ALL I GOT.

GREAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YES, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE, UH, SELF-EVALUATION PORTION.

YOU'RE ASKING THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO DO THEMSELVES.

SETTING ASIDE ANY SORT OF OVERALL CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THOSE EVALUATIONS MIGHT WORK? IS THIS THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BOARD DOING IT? IS EVERYBODY DOING IT ON THE COMMISSION? ARE YOU AGGREGATING THE ONE TO 10 SCALES YOU'RE USING? HOW FAR DEVELOPED IN YOUR SORT OF THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT HOW THAT TION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY VALUABLE FOR NOW THAT WE'RE ASKING Y'ALL

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TO GIVE US A KIND OF RECOMMENDATION THAT IT'S USEFUL FOR FUELING WHATEVER THAT RECOMMENDATION IS? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

SO CURRENTLY THEY'RE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE AN ANNUAL REVIEW AND REPORT THAT ASKS THE BOARD AND COMMISSION WITH THE DIRECTOR FROM THE CHAIR.

SO THE CHAIR'S RESPONSIBLE FOR CONDUCTING IT.

WE DO RECOMMEND THAT THEY, AS A BODY APPROVE IT, BUT IT ASKS THEM TO BASICALLY JUSTIFY THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING AND EXPLAIN THAT.

BUT IT'S IN NARRATIVE FORM AND WE COLLECT IT, AND WE FILE IT, AND WE HAVE A LIST OF, YOU DIDN'T FILE IT, AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY BEING UTILIZED.

SO WE TOOK THE START OF THAT AND THE DIRECTIVE THAT ALREADY EXISTS WHERE THE IDEA IS, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US HOW YOU FURTHERED YOUR MISSION AND WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

AND PUT IT IN OUR, TRYING TO PUT IT IN A MORE DIGESTIBLE FORM THAT WE CAN COLLECT, SO SOMETHING THEY'RE ALREADY DOING, AND THEN EXPANDING ON IT.

AND THEN WE ADDED A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT WE USED IN OUR INITIAL FEEDBACK SURVEY IN JANUARY THAT WE THOUGHT WAS, WERE HELPFUL WHEN TALKING ABOUT LIKE, THE SCOPE AND IS THERE OVERLAP TO KIND OF GET FROM THE INSIDER'S PERSPECTIVE, THE COMMISSIONERS THEMSELVES, DO YOU SEE ANY REDUNDANCIES HERE? DO YOU SEE OTHER SIMILAR WORK? AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK FIRST AND THEN PUT THAT IN A, YOU KNOW, A MORE PRESENTABLE AND DIGESTIBLE FORMAT.

OKAY.

MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT THAT IS COMPLETED IDEALLY, OR AT LEAST REQUESTED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE ENTIRE COMMISSION YES.

AS OPPOSED TO THE LEADERSHIP.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY.

YES.

AND I THINK, AND WE CAN FURTHER PUSH THAT CODE RIGHT NOW FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT, JUST AS IS THE CHAIR'S RESPONSIBILITY.

RIGHT.

AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THEY APPROVE IT, BUT I THINK WE CAN PUT THAT ON THERE.

WE WANT THIS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO FILL OUT THE ACTUAL FORM.

OKAY.

I THINK IT'D BE USEFUL TO GET, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BE USEFUL TO GET KIND OF A BROAD CROSS SECTION AND ALSO TO SIMPLY SEE WHO FILLS IT OUT, RIGHT.

WHO ACTUALLY TAKES THE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANCE OF IT AND, AND GO DO THAT.

AND PROBABLY HAS ALSO INDIRECTLY A MEASURE OF PARTICIPATION ON THAT COMMISSION.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES.

UNDERSTOOD.

UH, ALONG THOSE LINES, YOU HAVE SOME, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

OKAY.

LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE PARTICULARLY.

UM, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE A MOTION INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS.

AND SO LOOK AT THE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE SEVEN, UH, IN THE EVALUATION OF BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS, AND, AND I'M JUST, THIS MAY BE NITPICKY AND I TRY NOT TO DO THAT, BUT I JUST, IT SAYS, COULD OTHER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS TAKE OVER THE FUNCTIONS OF THIS BOARD OR COMMISSION? THAT'S HOT LANGUAGE.

UM, COULD OTHERS SERVE THIS SAME PURPOSE, UH, MEET THE SAME NEEDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF I WERE YOU, UH, PARTICULARLY EVEN AS YOU SEND A SELF-EVALUATION, UH, I WOULD REALLY STUDY THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE SENDING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T, UH, GET HOT LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT CHANGES THE POINT OF VIEW OF WHAT YOU OTHERWISE WOULD GET IN TERMS OF THAT DATA.

AND THE LAST BULLET, UH, THERE IS, WILL A SUN SETTING THIS BORDER COMMISSION IMPACT THE COMMUNITY? WELL, I PROMISE YOU PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY IT WILL IMPACT.

I MEAN, MAYBE BRING THE END TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN SOME OF THE INSTANCES IF WE DO DO AWAY WITH THEM.

AND SO PLAY WITH THAT LANGUAGE SO THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE GET A SELF-ASSESSMENT, UH, IT IS A TRUE SELF-ASSESSMENT AND NOT A DEFENSIVE SELF-ASSESSMENT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

UH, THAT, AND THAT'S JUST ONE ASPECT OF IT, BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY ASK YOU TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THERE AND, AND ASK YOURSELVES IF, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, BUT IN AN EMOTIONAL SET SETTING, WHICH THIS TENDS TO BE, UH, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO LOOK AT THAT, UH, COUNCILOR VELA, UH, THAT, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY WELL, WELL GO, UM, ON THE NEXT STEPS.

UH, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OCTOBER 15TH FOR THIS RANGE OF COMMISSIONS, KIND OF A FIRST STEP DRAFT WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE COMMISSIONS THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED HERE, AND THEN THE ONES THAT ARE NOTED AS INACTIVE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PLAN WOULD BE TO DELETE THEM FROM, I MEAN, AGAIN, IF THEY'RE NOT EXISTING AND THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, UH, THE, THE SENSE WOULD BE TO, UH, IS THAT THE CASE? YES, THEY WOULD.

WELL, WE, WE KEEP ALL THEIR INFORMATION.

WE JUST PUT THEM IN KIND OF A NEW TAB THAT MARKS THEM AS AN ACTIVE OKAY.

ON THE WEBSITE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

NEW TAB, UHHUH .

AND THEN ON THE FOUR COMMISSION, YOU MENTIONED IT, THE MERGER, A PROPOSED MERGER, UH, THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY, ECONOMIC AND, AND THE OTHER COMMISSION, UH, THOSE THREE WERE, UH, I GUESS IT WAS, UH, AND I THINK IT WAS IN THAT FIRST DRAFT OF THE, THE, THE, THE RESOLUTION, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND THE RESOLUTION AND APPENDIX A, UM, THE POTENTIAL ACTION OR RECOMMEND DRAFT RECOMMENDED ACTION WAS THAT THEY, THOSE THREE BE MERGED INTO THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION.

AND SO THIS IS JUST A WAY TO SIMULATE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE WHEN WE ACTUALLY PROPOSE A REGULAR SCHEDULE.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO, TO CLARIFY THAT.

AND THEN THROWING IN THE AIRPORT

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AGAIN, JUST TO PUT A STANDING COMMISSION THAT CLEARLY WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST THROUGH THE PROCESS AS WELL.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH KIND OF A LITTLE LEARNING TRIAL PHASE HERE, HUH? YEAH, AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

COUNCIL MEMBER, LIKE AFTER WE CONDUCT THIS PILOT, WE MAY LEARN THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKING THAT WE DIDN'T ASK, OR THAT WE NEED TO AMEND THE PROCESS.

AND SO IT IS A ALERTING OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT'LL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

GREAT.

AND THEN I'LL, I'LL JUST END WITH, UH, A, A COMMENT, UH, SERVED ON THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WORK WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALL THE TIME, UH, AND THE EXISTENCE OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE KIND OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO BOARDS THAT DO RELATIVELY, UH, SIMILAR THINGS.

UH, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A REASON FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, WAY BACK IN THE DAY.

I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS FOR THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND ZAP WAS FOR THE NON NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

THAT WAS 25 YEARS AGO.

UH, AND, AND I, I SOME OF US OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT, TO TAKE .

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN WHEN I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION 2015 KIND OF TIMEFRAME, UM, THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF AN OPEN QUESTION.

LIKE, WHY DO WE HAVE TWO LAND USE COMMISSIONS? YOU KNOW, , UH, AND I, AT THIS POINT, I JUST, I HAVE NO IDEA, UH, WHY WE HAVE, UH, TWO LAND USE COMMISSIONS.

'CAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS ARE, YOU KNOW, OLD AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

UH, UH, IT, IT IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

I KNOW FOR PLANNING STAFF, IT'S DOUBLE THE MEETINGS.

IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, IT'S A LOT OF HEADACHE.

UH, AND, AND I, I REALLY THINK THAT WE JUST NEED TO GO BACK TO ONE, UH, LAND USE COMMISSION THAT, UH, HANDLES, UH, THE ENTIRE CITY.

IT'S A BIG JOB, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE ON THE, ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN PARTICULAR, UH, AND, UH, AND ZAP.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE, UH, SEPARATE.

SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GRAPPLING WITH IT WHENEVER IT'S, IT'S, IT'S READY TO GO.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND I WILL SAY, AFTER WE COME WITH THE PILOT RESULTS IN OCTOBER, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF APPENDIX A AND, UH, THEN ESTABLISH A REGULAR CADENCE.

SO WE'D DO THAT AT THAT TIME.

GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM TWO? REALLY GOOD REPORT.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

LET'S ONWARD.

UM, THANKS.

ITEM

[3. Update on City’s Public Facilities Corporation and projects. [Kim Olivares, Director - Financial Services]]

NUMBER THREE IS VAR.

HMM.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE YOU START? CAN Y'ALL, DO Y'ALL HEAR A HUMMING ON THE MICROPHONES? VERY ECHO.

HUH? VERY ECHO, YEAH.

ECHOEY OR A HUM? DO Y'ALL HEAR THAT? OKAY? YEAH.

WHAT? I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO IT RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF I CAN TAKE IT DOWN.

OKAY.

I WAS WORRIED.

IT MIGHT JUST BE IN MY HEAD, .

AND IT IS NOT HUMMING MUSIC EITHER.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING PRETTY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

DON'T SAY WHATEVER'S IN YOUR MIND.

YEAH.

JUST MOVE ON.

.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M KIM LAVAR, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ON, UH, THE VARIETY OF PROJECTS THAT NOW I HEAR THE HUM.

I HEAR IT.

DO YOU HEAR IT NOW? YES.

YES.

UH, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO, UM, TO Y'ALL REGARDING THE VARIOUS PROJECTS.

THE AUSTIN PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION, UH, IS UNDERTAKING A PFC FOR SHORT.

UM, TODAY WE WILL, UM, BRIEFLY COVER JUST THE BACKGROUND OF THE A PFC AND HOW IT OPERATES, UH, GIVE YOU UPDATES ON FIVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

UM, BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE BENEFITS OF THE A PFC AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

BEFORE WE JUMP INTO, UH, SPECIFICS, THOUGH, I DO WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE ANDY MOORE FROM, UH, MY TEAM WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HE IS.

UH, HE LEADS THE, OUR P THREE PROGRAM AND ALL OF OUR, OUR PROJECTS THROUGH THE A PFC.

SO HE AND HIS TEAM ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING THESE, UH, REALLY HONESTLY TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS, UM, FORWARD INTO LIFE.

SO, WANNA MAKE SURE TO RECOGNIZE HIS WORK.

UM, SO THE, THE BACKGROUND A PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED UNDER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, CODE CHAPTER 3 0 3.

IN JUST A OVER TWO YEARS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CREATION OF OUR A PFC, UH, FOCUSED ON DELIVERING VARIOUS PUBLIC FACILITY INITIATIVES, UM, THROUGH CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION, FEASIBILITY STUDIES, AND THE SORT.

UM, WE TYPICALLY ARE FOCUSING ON MORE UNIQUE PROJECTS, NOT OUR TYPICAL BREAD AND BUTTER TYPE PROJECTS THAT, UM, THE CITY DELIVERS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UM, THERE

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IS ALWAYS A VERY CLEAR, UM, AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS OF ANY WORK.

THE A PFC IS DOING THAT.

IT COMES TO COUNCIL FIRST.

UM, THERE IS AN INTERLOCAL BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE A PFC.

SO COUNCIL MUST APPROVE ANY WORK IT WANTS TO ASSIGN TO THE A PFC TO COMPLETE AS WELL AS FUNDING.

UM, IN ADDITION, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE BOARD MEMBERS AT A PFC, WHICH INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES FROM, UM, VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND ENTERPRISE FUNCTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THE, UH, FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE BOARD MEETS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THOSE ARE ALSO OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS TO APPROVE WORK PLAN, UM, AND ALSO GET UPDATES ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND, AND JUST KEEP THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.

WE ALSO ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE, UH, REAL ESTATE CONSULTING SERVICES, UM, PROVIDED BY CBRE.

UH, WE WENT THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS SOME TIME AGO, UM, TO IDENTIFY THIS CONSULTING, UM, SERVICE, UH, PROVIDER FOR THE A PFC.

THEY INCLUDE THEIR WORK INCLUDES THINGS LIKE MARKET AND FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY.

THEY WILL CONDUCT RF QS RFPS FOR US.

UM, THEY WILL ALSO DO A VARIETY OF FEASIBILITY REPORTS AND PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OWNER REPRESENTATION.

UM, THE, AND, UH, WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE VALUE OF THIS WORK, GOING THROUGH THE A PFC TOWARD THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO THE FIVE PROJECTS THAT I WANNA FOCUS ON, UH, THE NORTHEAST SERVICE CENTER ARE AUSTIN WATER CONTROL CENTER, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY WAREHOUSE, PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS, AND FINALLY, 2,400 GROVE BOULEVARD.

UM, ALSO KNOWN AS THE FORMER TOKYO ELECTRON PROPERTY.

SO IN THE NORTHEAST SERVICE CENTER, THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT ON OUR, UH, TO-DO LIST FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND WE'RE REALLY THRILLED, UH, THAT IT IS, IT IS MOVING FORWARD QUICKLY.

UM, THIS WILL BE THE NEW HOME FOR, UH, A PORTION OF AWESOME RESOURCE RECOVERY AND FLEET MOBILITY SERVICES.

THIS IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT ONE OFF JOHNNY MORRIS ROAD, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, OR VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE'RE DOING THE COLONY PARK DEVELOPMENT, UM, CONSTRUCTION.

IT, WE ARE, WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING THROUGH COMPLETION OF DESIGN CONSTRUCTION WILL ACTUALLY BEGIN IN SEPTEMBER, UH, THIS YEAR.

AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A RIBBON CUTTING ON THIS SOON TO BE BEAUTIFUL NEW, I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M CALLING A SERVICE CENTER BEAUTIFUL.

BUT THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW FACILITY, UH, IN THE FALL OF 27.

UH, THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR THIS IS JUST OVER 253 OR $250 MILLION.

UH, WHEN WE FIRST CAME TO COUNCIL AND AUDIT AND FINANCE SOME TIME AGO, WE WERE THIS, AND THIS WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, PROBABLY, WE WERE ESTIMATING AROUND 250 WHEN WE HAD ALS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE CITY JUST DELIVERING IT AS A NORMAL PROJECT, WE WERE LOOKING IN EXCESS OF $330 MILLION OF BEING THE PRICE TAG.

WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT THE, ACTUALLY THE FACILITY HAS INCREASED IN SIZE SIGNIFICANTLY, AND PROVIDING A, A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL FEATURES AND STILL ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT $250 MILLION BUDGET.

IT WILL SERVE APPROXIMATELY 750 EMPLOYEES, UH, 345,000 SQUARE FEET OF BUILDING SPACE ON 132 ACRES.

SO THIS WILL BE A, A HUB FOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, OFFICES, BUT ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY SPACE.

UM, THAT'S NOT A NORM.

WE WANNA BE ABLE TO INVITE THE COMMUNITY INTO THIS SPACE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF, TO USE IT FOR NEEDS IN THE AREA, BUT ALSO TO SEE KIND OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY.

UM, WE'RE ALSO EXCITED TO, UH, DEVELOP A PARTNERSHIP WITH A ISD FOR INTERNSHIPS AND VOCATIONAL TRAINING, PARTICULARLY WITH OUR, OUR FLEET SERVICES AND THOSE TECHNICIANS.

UM, THIS ALSO CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REDEVELOP THE EXISTING FLEET FACILITY ON HARGRAVE.

ONCE THIS BUILDING IS COMPLETE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, REMOVE OPERATIONS AT THE HARGRAVE FACILITY AND PURSUE, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION AND ULTIMATE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE.

UM, WE'RE ALSO THROUGH THESE PROJECTS, ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, UM, A, A LARGE NUMBER OF COUNCIL PRIORITIES.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS BUILDING WILL BE AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING FOUR STAR.

UH, WE WILL HAVE RECLAIM WATER FEATURES, SOLAR POWER.

UM, THE BUILDING DESIGN IS ALSO PARTICULARLY UNIQUE IN THAT IT CAN BE DECONSTRUCTED AND RECYCLED, UM, WHICH IS VERY MUCH IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE, UH, THE MISSION OF AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY.

WE WILL ALSO HAVE EMERGENCY GENERATORS ON SITE.

GREAT.

AND ONE LAST THING.

THESE, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE, THE STATE OF, UH, CONDITIONS THAT OUR FLEET TECHNICIANS ARE WORKING IN TODAY, THAT COMPARED TO THIS IS JUST OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO, UM, GIVE OUR EMPLOYEES THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN A SPACE SUCH AS THIS, WHERE THEY'RE PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS AND, UH, AND HAVE THE, THE FACILITIES THEY DESERVE.

NEXT IS THE AWESOME WATER

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CONTROL CENTER.

THIS IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT FOUR ON HUNT LAND DRIVE.

IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE, UH, ST.

JOHN REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING.

UM, DESIGN IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETE THIS FALL, AND CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER.

UH, THE BUDGET IS JUST UNDER $42 MILLION.

THIS WILL SERVE THREE APPROXIMATELY 300 EMPLOYEES FOR AUSTIN WATER.

UM, THESE F THE FACILITIES THAT THESE EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY OPERATE IN ARE LARGELY LEASED FACILITIES.

SO THIS FURTHERS OUR EFFORTS TO, UM, GET THE CITY OUT OF LEAVE FACILITIES AND INTO OWN FACILITIES BECAUSE THERE IS AN, AN ULTIMATE COST SAVINGS OVER THE YEARS.

UM, SIMILAR TO THE NORTHEAST SERVICE CENTER THERE, WE WILL HAVE A GREEN BUILDING, UM, GOAL, A THREE STAR MINIMUM ON THIS ONE.

UM, THERE'LL BE RECLAIMED WATER, UH, AT THE SITE, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR AUSTIN WATER FACILITY.

UH, ALSO SOLAR POWER READY.

UM, WE'LL HAVE, WELL BUILDING STANDARDS, EMERGENCY GENERATORS.

AND WE'RE ALSO EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE WEB MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT IS LOCATED JUST NEXT DOOR AS THIS WILL SERVE AS, UH, ALSO THE LAB WHERE TESTING SAMPLES ARE BEING LOOKED AT.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO KIND OF SEE THAT FIRSTHAND AND PERHAPS, UH, INSPIRE, UH, CAREERS IN, IN, WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

NEXT UP, PUBLIC SAFETY WAREHOUSE.

UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR THIS.

UH, THE CURRENT FACILITIES THAT ARE, UM, THAT FORENSIC SCIENCES, HE SO FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, AND EMS ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING OUT OF ARE EITHER LEASE, WELL, THEY'RE EITHER LEASED AND THEY'RE ALL HIGHLY OR, UM, SORELY UNDERSIZED OR, UM, JUST NOT THE RIGHT TYPE OF FACILITY FOR THOSE TYPES OF OPERATIONS.

UM, THIS BUILDING, UH, THE, THE BUILDING WAS ALREADY BUILT BY, UH, ANOTHER DEVELOPER.

WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE BUILDING AND WE ARE NOW DESIGNING THE FULL OUTFIT OF THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.

SO WE EXPECT THAT TO BE COMPLETE.

NEXT MONTH CONSTRUCTION BEGIN THIS FALL.

AND FOR COMPLETION, UM, BASICALLY A YEAR FROM NOW.

UM, THE BUDGET FOR THAT REMODEL WORK IS JUST OVER $32 MILLION.

THIS BUILDING IS HUGE.

IT IS 230,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY FOUR FOOTBALL FIELDS.

IF YOU FIRST WALK INTO IT, IT IS ACTUALLY QUITE OVERWHELMING BECAUSE IT IS SO VOLUMINOUS.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, ACHIEVE AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING STANDARDS, WELL BUILDING, AND ALSO CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO, UM, MAKE SURE EMERGENCY GENERATORS ARE AVAILABLE.

UM, I JUST, I RAN INTO DR.

KAVI YESTERDAY, UM, AT BUDGET, AND SHE'S JUST BEYOND EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FROM THEIR CURRENT FACILITY INTO THIS SPACE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ANTICIPATE WILL LAST US FOR LIKE DECADES UPON DECADES, UM, TO COVER OUR SPACE NEEDS FOR THE STORAGE OF EVIDENCE AND OTHER, UM, ITEMS. WHAT WAS IT USED FOR? IT? THIS IS A BRAND NEW FIT BUILDING, SO IT'S NEVER BEEN USED.

HMM.

YES.

OKAY.

THIS IS ALSO ADJACENT TO ANOTHER PROPERTY WE OWN ON MCGENIS LANE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR.

UM, SO BECAUSE OF ITS SIGHTING ON THIS PROPERTY AND ITS LOCATION RELATIVE TO OUR OWN PROPERTY, IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT EXPANSION OR OTHER PER NEEDS GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

NEXT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS, UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO, UH, MOVE OUR FIRE EMS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS INTO, UM, MODERN AND FUNCTIONING FACILITIES, UH, RELATIVE TO THEIR CURRENT, UH, HOMES.

THIS IS LOCATED, UH, BARTON, UH, BARTON SKYWAY AND MOPAC, UH, IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

WE WILL HAVE SCHEMATIC DESIGN COMPLETE THIS OCTOBER.

UH, WHEN WE BOUGHT, BROUGHT THIS ACQUISITION FORWARD TO COUNCIL, WE COMMITTED AT THAT POINT TO, UM, CARRYING THROUGH ON DESIGN EFFORTS SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE WITH A, UM, MUCH MORE FIRM AND, AND DETAILED COST ESTIMATE FOR THE FINISH OUT, UM, RETROFIT OF THIS BUILDING, UM, TO MEET OUR DEPARTMENT NEEDS.

UM, WE WILL RETURN RETURN COUNCIL LATER THIS YEAR WITH THAT RE THAT BUDGET REQUEST.

UH, DESIGN WORK AS IN A, AS A, IN ITS ENTIRETY, IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETE THIS NEXT APRIL.

UM, AND WE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTION VERY SOON THEREAFTER.

THE DESIGN BUDGET HAS, UH, TO GET US TO THE POINT OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE A, A REALLY, A GOOD NUMBER TO Y'ALL, UM, IS AT 5 MILLION.

SO THIS BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 400,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT WILL HO, UM, BE HOME TO ABOUT 2000 EMPLOYEES.

UM, BECAUSE WE WILL RELOCATE THE THREE DEPARTMENTS FROM THEIR CURRENT HEADQUARTER SITES.

WE NOW CREATE REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WHICH I THINK GOES NICELY WITH THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY ABOUT SPURRING, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND AN INCREASED TAX BASE AND, AND THE SORT RELATIVE TO OUR BUDGET.

UM, THIS WILL ALSO, WE WILL MAKE SURE THIS IS AN ALSO GREEN

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BUILDING THREE STAR.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE SOLAR POWER ON THE ROOFS OF THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING GARAGES.

UM, ALSO RECLAIMED WATER.

WE DO RECOGNIZE THIS IS IN THE BARTON SPRINGS WATERSHED.

WE ARE BEING VERY, VERY, UM, CAREFUL AND, UM, COGNIZANT OF THAT.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING, UM, A, A GOOD, UH, RESIDENT IN THE AREA.

ALSO ACHIEVE WELL BUILDING STANDARDS AND OF COURSE, EMERGENCY GENERATORS.

UH, LAST IS 2,400 GROVE BOULEVARD, UM, UH, ARTISTS KNOWN PREVIOUSLY AS TOKYO ELECTRON.

UH, THE PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, DEPARTMENT WILL BE RELOCATING TO THIS BUILDING.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE A VARIETY OF TECHNOLOGY SERVICES AND OUR CTECH 2.0.

UM, WE EXPECT THIS IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT THREE.

WE EXPECT TO HAVE PROGRAMMING COMPLETE THIS FALL.

UM, AND WE'LL IMMEDIATELY MOVE INTO THE RFQ FOR THIS FULL DESIGN SERVICES IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER AND DESIGN NEXT SPRING.

UH, AND THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, SITUATION WHERE WE WILL COME TO COUNCIL WITH A MUCH HIGHER QUALITY, UM, BUDGET REQUEST, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING.

AND THE REMODEL WOULD TAKE PLACE FROM MARCH, 2027 THROUGH THE VARIOUS FIRST, UH, PART OF THE 2028.

UM, RIGHT NOW, JUST OUR INITIAL PROGRAMMING AND DESIGN WORK IS, UM, JUST A MILLION DOLLAR DESIGN BUDGET.

SO AT 140,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, UM, SPACE AND 48,000 SQUARE FEET FOR CTEC 2.0.

UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO, AGAIN, HAVE AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING AND WELL BUILDING STANDARDS.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING, THERE'S ALSO THE ADJACENT LAND.

SO, UH, WITH THIS PURCHASE, THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 60 ACRES OF LAND, BUT THERE'S ALSO ABOUT 18 ACRES OF A HFC OWNED LAND, UM, IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO IT.

SO WE ARE IN PHASE ONE OF CONDUCTING PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY MARKET ANALYSIS AND, UM, CREATING OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A REALLY SOLID FOUNDATION BASELINE OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE SO WE DON'T, UM, SET EXPECTATIONS BEYOND WHAT THE MARKET COULD ACTUALLY DELIVER LONG TERM.

SO WE WANNA HAVE A REALLY GOOD STARTING POINT WHEN WE GO TO THE COMMUNITY IN PHASE TWO, AND WE START DOING DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS AND TEST FITTING THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO, BENEFITS OF THE A PFC, UM, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE ABLE TO DELIVER ON PRETTY UNIQUE AND LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, UM, AND BRING FOLKS TO THE TABLE, UM, EXPERTS, CONSULTANTS, AND THE SORT THAT THIS IS THE WORK THAT THEY DO, THEY LIVE IN.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP US THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN A, IN A REALLY, UM, EFFECTIVE WAY.

UM, FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THE CITY IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE PATIENT CAPITAL.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PURCHASE BUILDINGS IN A DOWN MARKET.

UM, WE'RE ABLE TO MOBILIZE PROJECTS WHEN OTHERWISE, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE STRUGGLING.

UM, AND, AND, AND SLOW DOWN.

WE'RE ABLE TO HELP, UM, INJECT SOME ACTIVITY ON THAT FRONT.

WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE COUNCIL POLICY OBJECTIVES AROUND BETTER BUILDER PREVAILING LIVING WAGE SUSTAINABILITY AND WELLNESS APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, AND MWBE, UM, UTILIZATION.

UM, FINALLY, THE, THIS IS A WAY FOR THE CITY'S AND EMPLOYER TO MAKE, UH, REALLY MEANINGFUL INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE PROPERTY PROPER FACILITIES TO CONDUCT THE WORK AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE REALLY PLEASED WITH THE WORK THAT THE A PFC HAS BEEN DOING AND, AND, AND LOOKS FORWARD TO DOING, UH, IN THE FUTURE.

UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ITEM ON THE JULY 24TH AGENDA FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF, OF SOME OTHER PROJECTS FOR THE A PFC.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER UCHIN, COULD YOU JUST SHOW ME THE BACK OF YOUR HAND? , NOT INTENTIONALLY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS.

THIS IS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ARE PROJECTS I'VE HEARD ABOUT AND SOME THAT I HAVEN'T.

SO, UH, INCREDIBLY VALUABLE.

I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROJECTS, I'M ASSUMING THE WAREHOUSE IS KIND OF AN OUTLIER.

IF I'M LOOKING AT NUMBERS BASED ON SQUARE FEET AND COST AND DESIGN COST AND SO ON.

UM, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST SORT OF HELP ME FIGURE OUT IS THERE A, WHAT I'M GONNA SAY A MATHEMATICAL WAY, OR HOW DO YOU EVALUATE THE, THE DIFFERENT, WHAT ARE THE GOOD WAYS TO EVALUATE THESE PROJECTS? AND WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN, UM, YOU'VE GOT TWO PROJECTS, THE LAST TWO PROJECTS ON THE LIST HERE.

UM, ONE IS ABOUT HALF THE SIZE, BUT ONE FIFTH THE DESIGN COST, RIGHT? YOU HAVE THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS, YOU'VE GOT TWO PROJECTS THAT, UH, ONE HOUSE IS ABOUT HALF AS MANY PEOPLE AS THE OTHER, BUT IS WHAT, ONE SIX OF THE COST.

SO HOW ARE Y'ALL EVALUATING THE OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PROJECTS? RIGHT? AND, AND WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME TO

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LOOK AT AS A, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN? RIGHT.

SO, UH, WELL, SOME OF THE THINGS I WOULD POINT OUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, 2,400 GROVE BOULEVARD, THAT DESIGN COST, THAT'S JUST INITIAL SPACE PLANNING PROGRAMMING.

IT'S NOT THE FULL DESIGN.

I SEE.

I SEE.

SO IT'S NOT THE FULL DESIGN COST.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE CAN EXPECT SOMETHING ELSE.

YES, YES.

WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THE, THE, THE RFQ, THE, THE, THE REQUEST FOR FUNDS TO DO THE, THE FULL SCALE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND FINISH OUT.

UM, SO IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT OFFICE BUILDINGS VERSUS WAREHOUSES, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE COST OF DOING THOSE, THE, FROM A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE, THE WAREHOUSE MARKET HAS ACTUALLY BEEN CONTINUED TO PERFORM INCREDIBLY STRONG RELATIVE TO THE OFFICE MARKET.

HMM.

UM, SO WHEN WE SAW THAT, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE ACQUISITION OF, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY WAREHOUSE, UM, AND WE WERE WORKING THROUGH APPRAISALS AND LOOKING AT OPTIONS IN THE MARKET, WE, WE CLICK QUICKLY, SAW HOW THAT WAS DOING QUITE WELL RELATIVE TO THE PRICE POINT, WE'RE ABLE TO GET PER SQUARE FOOT ON OFFICE SPACE THAT WE'VE ACQUIRED.

UM, IN ADDITION, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS HAVE A LOT MORE UNIQUE FEATURES.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY WAREHOUSE, IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL JUST YOU HAVE STACKS AND YOU HAVE YOUR BOXES ON THE, ON THE SHELVES AND EVERYTHING.

THERE'S, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH FORENSICS, UM, THEY HAVE TO HAVE, FOR THE BIOLOGICAL EVIDENCE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT, AND WE HAVE THE FOUNDATIONAL SUPPORT TO CARRY THAT EQUIPMENT AND THE SOURCE.

SO IT'S SOME VERY UNIQUE FEATURES ON THAT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO SOME OF THE COSTS THAT YOU WOULDN'T NORMALLY SEE IN ANO ANY TYPICAL OTHER, UH, WAREHOUSE PROJECT.

UM, FOR THE, UM, SIMILARLY WITH THE GROVE BOULEVARD, THERE'S THE OFFICE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT THEN THERE'S LIKE THE CTEC SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT WILL ALSO BE REALLY UNIQUE, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL USE.

UM, AND SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT IT NEEDS FOR SECURITY AND THE SORT KIND OF CONTRIBUTE TO COST.

SO, UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS, LIKE THE NORTHEAST SERVICE CENTER, WE WERE ABLE TO DO A REALLY CLEAR COMPARISON OF WHAT WE WERE ESTIMATING IT MIGHT COST, UM, IF THE CITY WERE TO DELIVER IT, UM, VERSUS THE PFC, WE WERE ABLE TO, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THAT VERY, UM, CLEAR COMPARISON.

UM, SO WE, AND WE ALSO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS, CONSULTANTS, AND EVERYTHING THAT WE WORK WITH IN THE PFC THAT, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO STREAMLINE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE PFC.

SO THEY RECOGNIZE THAT, THEY APPRECIATE THAT THEIR BIDS, THEIR COST ESTIMATES REFLECT THAT.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY THESE MORE UNIQUE, MORE CHALLENGING PROJECTS WE FEEL ARE BEST HANDLED THROUGH THE PFC, UM, SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE WE'RE GETTING THE FREIGHT FOLKS AT THE TABLE TO HELP US THROUGH THAT DELIVERY, BUT ALSO, UM, IDEALLY GET A BETTER PRICE POINT THAN WE WOULD HAVE THROUGH OUR TYPICAL PROCESSES.

SO BASICALLY IT'S A, EACH OF THESE FACILITIES HAS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE FEATURES THAT WOULD SET THEM ASIDE, THAT WOULD THEN BE COVERED AS PART OF WHAT, UM, WHAT A PFC DOES RELATIVE TO DELIVERING FROM SOME OTHER RIGHT.

CAPITAL PROVIDER.

RIGHT? YEAH.

'CAUSE CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES, THEY DO FANTASTIC WORK.

THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH LIKE ROADWAY VERTICAL OR HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THESE ARE KIND OF THESE MORE, UH, GENERATIONAL TYPE OF PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE DON'T SEE SO OFTEN.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING IN THE RIGHT SPECIALTIES, UM, TO HELP US DELIVER UPON THEM AND LET CDS KEEP DOING THE GREAT WORK THEY DO ON OUR REALLY KIND OF STANDARD PROJECTS.

BUT AS A RESULT OF THAT, THERE IS NO KIND OF STANDARD WAY YOU'D BE ABLE TO EVALUATE COSTS OR SQUARE FOOTAGE OR ANY OF THEIR METRICS BECAUSE OF THESE UNIQUE FEATURES.

I GUESS THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE LANDING ON THERE.

THERE'S SOME, WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE THE OFFICE BUILDINGS, UM, WE CAN DO SOME PER SQUARE FOOT COSTS THERE.

UM, WE'RE ABLE TO DO SOME COMPARISONS THERE.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST A ONE SIZE FITS ALL KIND OF SITUATION, BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, WE CAN GENERALLY PULL .

OKAY.

I'LL FOLLOW UP SEPARATELY ABOUT THAT.

THE SECOND QUESTION IS JUST, UH, IS THERE A CONVENIENT INVENTORY, RIGHT? I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A, UM, THERE'S A CATALOG OF, UH, SIMILAR CITY PROPERTIES THAT HAVE EXPECTED LIFE CYCLES, THAT WE ARE IN A PLACE WHERE WE'RE REPLACING THINGS THAT SAY FLEET AND OTHER PLACES NEED, AND THAT'S HOW THIS PROCESS STARTED YEARS AGO.

UH, WHERE DOES THAT EXIST? THAT INVENTORY THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS OF ROLLING OUT, YOU KNOW, NEW FACILITIES WHEN THEY MAYBE DO OR MAYBE BECOME OBSOLETE OR WHEN THEY SEE TECH MIGHT NEED TO HAVE TECHNOLOGY FEATURES UPDATED, WHATEVER THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE, THAT CHANGE OVER TIME.

UM, DOES THAT LIVE SOMEWHERE? YEAH, SO WE HAVE, WE DID COMPLETE SOME YEARS AGO AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE SPACE, UM, STUDY AND ANALYSIS, UM, LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT FACILITIES, OUR, OUR DEPENDENCY ON LEASES AND THE SORT, AND THAT'S BEEN OUR, OUR, UM, OUR DRIVER FOR HOW WE'VE BEEN PURSUING ACQUISITIONS AND, AND SHIFTING FOLKS.

SO THE STRATEGIC FACILITIES

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GOVERNANCE TEAM, BECAUSE WE LOVE A GOOD, UM, ACRONYM AND BUREAUCRATIC NAME, THE SFGT, UM, INCLUDES MYSELF, UM, MY REAL ESTATE OFFICER, OUR BILLING SERVICES DIRECTOR, AND, UM, A MIX OF OTHER STAFF TO SUPPORT.

WE ARE MEETING EVERY WEEK, UM, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND OTHER NEEDS GOING ON.

SO THERE WAS A VERY DEDICATED EFFORT TO, UM, CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE BUILDING NEEDS.

BUT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO STARTING THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE NEXT PHASE OF WHERE, HOW WE'RE MORE, MOST EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY, UM, UTILIZING OUR LAND AND OTHER FACILITIES TO NOT ONLY MEET ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS, BUT COMMUNITY NEEDS, BUT ALSO, UM, LOOKING AT WHERE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT OR MAXIMIZING ASSET TO CREATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS THAT WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO, UH, PROPERTY TAX CAPS AND THE SORT.

SO THAT'S OUR NEXT PHASE.

OKAY.

WELL, I'LL VISIT OFFLINE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE.

I WOULD ASSUME THERE'S KIND OF A SCHEDULE FOR HOW ALL OF THAT PROCEEDS.

UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE LATER.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

CATHERINE , I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT, ONE THING THAT'S NOT ON THIS PRESENTATION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT FALLS WITHIN THE PFC OR IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE TRANSFER STATION FOR A RR, IS THAT COMING THROUGH THE PFC OR IS THAT JUST AN A RR? SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S NOT COMING THROUGH THE PFC, UM, RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE HAVING, UM, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, POTENTIAL PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS TO ADDRESS THE TRANSFER STATION.

SO THAT'S A VERY ACTIVE CONVERSATION, UM, THAT MYSELF, MY FOLKS ARE HAVING WITH A RR.

OKAY.

YES.

THAT'S IT ON THE, UH, THE HUNT LAND, UH, DRIVE PROPERTY, THE, UH, BUDGET IS FOR THE INTERNAL BUILD OUT THEN OF THE, UH, UH, OF THE BUILDING.

IS THAT CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND DO WE ALSO OWN, I KNOW THERE'S THAT HUGE PARKING LOT BEHIND IT, THAT'S PART OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

YEAH.

MY LAW OFFICE WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS, AND I PASSED BY THIS, UH, A ZILLION TIMES.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OTHER UNIQUE BUILDINGS WHERE, BECAUSE THE FINISH OUT INCLUDES LABORATORY SERVICES, IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT MORE UNIQUE AND CREATES SOME DIFFERENT COSTS, UM, THAT YOU WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE IN A REGULAR OFFICE BUILDING.

YEAH.

AND I HAD TALKED TO AUSTIN WATER ABOUT IT.

I KNOW THEY'RE CONSOLIDATING KIND OF ALL THEIR DIFFERENT LABS AND WHATNOT INTO THIS BUILDING, WHICH AGAIN, IT MAKES A WORLD OF SENSE.

I MEAN, FROM A BIG PICTURE PERSPECTIVE, AND LET ME JUST SAY THAT A LOT OF ALL THESE ACQUISITIONS I HAVEN'T SEEN, ONE THAT DOESN'T MAKE A WORLD OF SENSE IN TERMS OF USING PURCHASING, CITY, PURCHASING REAL ESTATE IN A DOWN MARKET AND THEN CONSOLIDATING ITS, UH, LEASED OFFICES INTO THE BUILDING THAT IT JUST PURCHASED MAKES AGAIN, JUST A WORLD OF SENSE.

AND I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO STAFF WHO I THINK HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF, UH, STRATEGICALLY BUYING, UH, REAL ESTATE ASSETS OVER, YOU KNOW, THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

UH, AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF IT IN THIS BUDGET IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, MOVING, UH, FOLKS OUT OF LEASED BUILDINGS AND INTO, UH, PURCHASE BUILDINGS.

UH, UH, SO, UH, WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO WE, WE HAVE TO ASK TOP, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS AND, AND PUSH, BUT OVERALL, Y'ALL ARE DOING, UH, VERY IMPRESSED, AND, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL, ALL THE, THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

UM, THE, UM, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PFC DELIVERY AND CITY DELIVERY? UH, I MEAN, JUST THE MECHANICS OF IT, YOU KNOW, WHY IS, UH, A PFC ABLE TO, TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MOVE, UH, QUICKER, FASTER, CHEAPER THAN, THAN, THAN THE CITY IN? UM, SO THE, THE GOVERNMENT CODE, AND THIS IS WHERE I ALSO, I THINK ONE OF OUR, NO, HE LEFT THE, UM, ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS WAS HERE .

UM, THERE ARE, THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT, UM, PURCHASING REQUIREMENTS, UM, OR, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND RULES MM-HMM .

UM, IN THAT PORTION OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE RELATIVE TO OUR CITY PROCESSES.

UM, WE'RE ALSO BECAUSE WE'RE UTILIZING, UM, FUNCTIONS LIKE BASICALLY HIRING AN AGENT TO CARRY THINGS OUT ON OUR BEHALF, SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO THROUGH ALL THE SAME KIND OF INTERNAL REVIEWS AT OUR TYPICAL PROCESS, BUT WE'RE STILL DOING THEM MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THAT'S THE INTERESTING THING IS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH MWBE, UM, GREEN BUILDING BETTER BUILDER, WE'RE ABLE TO, IN THESE RFPS, THESE RFPS WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT A REQUIREMENT OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE BIDDING.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SIMPLER LITTLE PROCESS.

I THINK IT'D BE BETTER IF I, I CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE SOMETHING OFFLINE THAT KIND OF SURE.

PROVIDES A COMPARISON, UM, BUT IT'S RESULTING IN GOOD IN, IN, IN GOOD NUMBERS.

SO, I MEAN, BASICALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, PROCEDURAL, UH, LEGAL AND PROCEDURAL KIND OF HURDLES THAT THE CITY HAS TO JUMP THROUGH THAT, UH, UH, A PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH.

RIGHT? CORRECT.

YEAH.

MORE FLEXIBILITY, I GUESS IN, UH, RIGHT.

BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR.

WE ARE STILL VERY MUCH HONORING AND FOLLOWING THOSE POLICY DIRECTIVES FROM COUNCIL.

UM, SO IT, IT IS

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NOT A WORKAROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT IS A STREAMLINED EFFORT AND STILL ACHIEVING THOSE POLICY GOALS.

AND, AND WE SEE THAT, I MEAN, CLEARLY THE SUBSTANTIVE POLICY GOALS ARE STILL THERE.

YES.

IN TERMS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, WORKFORCE PROTECTIONS, THE LABOR PROTECTIONS LIKE THAT, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE DON'T WANNA SUBCONTRACT AWAY BY ANY MEANS.

UH, SOME OF THE MORE PROCEDURAL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S A, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORY.

THE, UH, CTECH, UH, THAT IS OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, UH, BUILDING, UH, CORRECT, CORRECT.

SO, CTECH 2.0, IS THAT BASICALLY GONNA BE OUR BACKUP EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS BUILDING? YES.

BACKUP INTO JUST AN ADDITIONAL SPACE IN GENERAL? UM, THE CURRENT C TECH FACILITY IS, IS WONDERFUL, BUT, UH, IT'S BEEN, OH GOSH, WELL OVER NEARLY 25 YEARS SINCE WE, WE BUILT THAT MM-HMM .

UH, AND SO THEY ARE AT THEIR, LIKE, THEIR BUS AT THE, THE SEAMS, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE BACKUP.

I MEAN, WE HAD AN INCIDENT IN ONE OF THE STORMS WHERE THEY HAD SOME FLOODING ISSUES.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING PROPER EMERGENCY BACKUP, BUT ALSO JUST THE SPACE THEY NEED IN GENERAL.

UM, GREAT.

UM, UH, UH, PRE AND HONESTLY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT CTECH WAS 25 YEARS OLD WHEN YOU GO TO THE BUILDING.

IT LOOKED GREAT.

YEAH.

UH, BUT, UH, I, UH, IT WAS BUILT A LONG TIME AGO AND AUSTIN HAS GROWN A LOT SINCE THEN.

AND I KNOW ON THE FLOOR THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PRETTY, UH, UH, PACKED, UH, IN TERMS OF THE NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTER, UH, THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS ROOM, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AGAIN, THE, THE LESS IT'S USED, THE BETTER.

UH, BUT, UH, WHEN IT DOES KICK IN, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A ROBUST OPERATION THAT, THAT I KNOW THEY NEED THEIR SPACE.

UH, FINALLY, I KNOW THIS WASN'T ON HERE, AND I KNOW THIS WAS A MORE RECENT, UH, PURCHASE, BUT THAT, THAT BUILDING THERE ON, UH, RED RIVER 30TH AND IN, IN, IN RED RIVER, DID THAT GO THROUGH AFTER THE, ON RED RIVER? MM-HMM .

I, I'LL ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.

OO OFFLINE, UH, OH, OH, ON 35 AND, AND 33RD.

YES, YES, YES.

MM-HMM.

YES.

THAT, UM, YEAH, SO THAT, THAT'S, THE PURCHASE HAS BEEN MADE.

UM, AND, UM, BUILDING SERVICES IS BEGINNING, UH, TO WORK THROUGH LIKE SPACE PLANNING ASSIGNMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, TO GET FOLKS, UH, SET UP IN THERE.

GREAT.

AND I KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE MORE KIND OF GENERAL OFFICE, UH, UH, YES.

SPACE OR THAT'S MY SENSE OF IT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

UM, WE'RE, BUT WE'RE ALSO, WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO LOOK AT, UM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR NEEDS ORGANIZATION WIDE, NOT JUST OFFICE SPACE, LIKE, UM, SO JUST, WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE SOMETHING ON THE TABLE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.

UM, AND THERE'S ALSO SOME EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE FIRST FLOOR SPACE WHERE SINCE IT IS A MIXED USE, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON HOW WE CAN ACTIVATE THAT SPACE AND, AND PERHAPS ALSO, UH, ADDRESS SOME OTHER COUNCIL PRIORITIES.

YEAH, NO, YOU HAVE A, A REALLY SOLID FIRST FLOOR COMMERCIAL SPACE, UH, IN THAT, UH, BUILDING THAT, UH, REALLY, IT, IT HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVATED THE WAY IT REALLY SHOULD BE.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD GO IN THERE FROM THE CITY, BUT, OKAY.

GREAT.

GLAD TO HEAR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, THAT BEING ALL ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THANKS FOR THAT GOOD REPORT.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK MEMBERS.

ITEM

[4. Identify items to discuss at future meetings.]

NUMBER NINE IS TO IDENTIFY ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED AT FUTURE MEETINGS.

UH, I'LL BREAK THAT OUT INTO TWO PARTS.

ONE IS A REMINDER THAT NEXT ON THE 22ND, UH, NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING AT THE AUDIT FINANCE COMMITTEE MEET, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, THAT IS GEARED TOWARD BUDGET ITEMS, UH, AND POTENTIAL, UH, DISCUSSION AND DISCUSSION OF A POTENTIAL, UH, TAX RATE ELECTION.

SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC AND THE COUNCIL DECIDE THAT IT WANTS TO DO? I'LL ASK IF YOU'VE GOT ANY ITEMS YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS AS WE'RE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW, OR JUST PROVIDE 'EM TO ME AT A LATER POINT IN TIME.

ALRIGHT.

YES, CAPTAIN.

I WANTED TO VOLUNTEER AN ITEM THAT I BROUGHT UP YESTERDAY, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER'S PERFORMANCE, UH, KPI THAT HE'S ADDED TO HIS WEBSITE.

UM, I THINK IT'S PERFORMANCE DOT AUSTIN TEXAS.GOV.

BUT, UH, I'D BE CURIOUS TO START A CONVERSATION HERE ABOUT HOW WE CAN BUILD ON THAT EFFORT.

OKAY.

AND I WANNA SEE IF THERE'S ANY APPETITE FOR DOING THAT.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS, LIKE AFTER THE BUDGET, RIGHT? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SURE.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S WHY, WHY I ASKED.

THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

YOU ALSO HAVE OF COURSE, A, A NUMBER OF MEMOS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THAT AT YOUR OWN LEISURE TAKE A, TAKE A LOOK AT.

UM, I'LL ASK THE AUDITOR IF, UH, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT WITH REGARD TO FUTURE MEETINGS THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD? MR. PANINO? OKAY.

MEMBERS, THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA FOR THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE ON JULY 16TH, 2025.

UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10 30.

THANK YOU ALL.