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          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
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UH, MAYOR, I WILL CALL THE 
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MEETING OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY UTILITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE TO, UH, ORDER AT 9 0 5. 
          UH, ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ARE PRESENT, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP? NO SPEAKERS. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WELL WITH, UH, NO SPEAKERS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE UH, ITEMS. ITEM ONE 
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IS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 20TH, 2025 MEETING. 
          UH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION FROM COUNCIL, FROM COMMITTEE MEMBER UCHIN SECOND FROM, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, RYAN ALTER. 
          UM, AND, UH, ALL THOSE IN, UH, FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          UH, ITEM TWO 
          [2. General Manager’s Report - Storm Response Overview and After-Action Review Process [Stuart Reilly, Interim General Manager - Austin Energy].]
IS THE GENERAL MANAGER'S REPORT BY INTERIM GENERAL MANAGER STEWART RILEY, UH, GENERAL MANAGER, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, AND LOOKS LIKE WHILE, WHILE THEY'RE PULLING THAT PRESENTATION UP, UH, I'LL JUST GET STARTED. 
          UM, AGAIN, I'M STUART RILEY, AUSTIN ENERGY, INTERIM GENERAL MANAGER. 
          UM, I'LL BE SPEAKING TODAY ABOUT THE MICROBURST STORM THAT AUSTIN ENERGY AND OUR CUSTOMERS EXPERIENCED AT THE END OF MAY, BUT I DO, BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MORE RECENTLY, UH, THE, THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA AND HILL COUNTRY HAVE EXPERIENCED SEVERE AND TRAGIC FLOODING, UM, THAT FLOODING MAKES OUR MAY MICROBURST STORM SEEM MINOR BY COMPARISON. 
          BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AT AUSTIN ENERGY TO IDENTIFY MEASURES THAT WE NEED TO DO AN EVEN BETTER JOB THAN WHAT WE DID IN THIS STORM. 
          BUT I COULDN'T MOVE ON TO THIS MAY MICROBURST STORM AND KIND OF GO BACK FARTHER THAN WHAT, UH, WE'VE EXPERIENCED. 
          UH, WITHOUT STOPPING FOR A MOMENT JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT ALL OF THESE STORMS ARE ANOTHER REMINDER OF THE SEVERE AND IMPORTANT IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, FOR DECADES, AUSTIN ENERGY HAS BEEN AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          WE'RE NOW ALSO RESPONDING TO ITS MANY IMPACTS, RESPONDING WITH OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          AND, UH, THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS BESIDES THIS ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE TODAY ON RESOURCE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, OVERHEAD SYSTEM HARDENING, UM, CUSTOMER WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS, THAT'S ALL DEMONSTRATIVE OF OUR COMMITMENT TO, UH, FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE, RESPONDING TO CLIMATE CHANGE, AND ALSO HELPING OUR CUSTOMERS BE MORE RESILIENT. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL UNPRECEDENTED WEATHER EVENTS HERE IN RECENT YEARS. 
          THIS STORM ON MAY 28TH, WAS THE THIRD WORST STORM IN AUSTIN ENERGY'S HISTORY. 
          UM, FROM A OUTAGE PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS FROM A SYSTEM DAMAGE PERSPECTIVE TO, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF DAMAGE TO AUSTIN ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE SECOND WORST STORM THAT WE'VE EVER HAD. 
          UH, SECOND ONLY TO WINTER STORM MARA IN FEBRUARY OF 2023. 
          WINTER STORM URI IN 2021 HAD MORE OUTAGES, BUT THAT WAS AN ERCOT LOAD SHED EMERGENCY WITH LESS DAMAGE TO THE SYSTEM. 
          AND THIS, THIS STORM, OF COURSE, CAME WITH VERY EXTREME RAINFALL IN A, IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, INTENSE HAIL, HIGH WINDS, UM, A LOT OF LIGHTNING. 
          AND THIS WAS ALL CONCENTRATED IN A BAND ACROSS AUSTIN FROM WEST TO EAST. 
          AND THAT CAME THROUGH IN THE EVENING, EARLY EVENING OF, UH, MAY 28TH. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO THIS GRAPH JUST SHOWS THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT WE HAD AFFECTED STARTING THE EVENING OF MAY 28TH. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WHEN THE STORM CAME THROUGH, ITS INTENSITY CAUSED A VERY, IM, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE PEAK, PEAK, UH, THIS SPIKE IN OUTAGES THAT CAME THROUGH WITHIN MINUTES WHERE WE GOT UP TO 72,500 CUSTOMERS OUT. 
          ADDITIONAL STORMS CREATED OTHER OUTAGES OVER THE COURSE OF THE RESTORATION EVENT. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT A SMOOTH, UH, DOWNWARD SLOPE TO THAT LINE. 
          AS WE HAD OTHER STORMS THAT POPPED UP AND CAME THROUGH OUR AREA. 
          UM, AUSTIN ENERGY CREWS, ALONG WITH MUTUAL AID PROVIDERS RESTORED ALL POWER TO CUSTOMERS BY LATE EVENING. 
          UH, JANUARY 1ST, NEXT SLIDE. 
          AS WITH ANY BIG STORM, OUR CREWS ENCOUNTERED MANY UNIQUE AND UNEXPECTED CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY. 
          AND AT TIMES THAT DELAYED OUR PROGRESS IN RESTORING POWER CREWS REPORTED SEEING HOMES WITH ROOFS RIPPED OFF, UM, TREES UPROOTED AND STUCK BACK IN THE GROUND, UPSIDE DOWN THINGS THAT OUR CREW MEMBERS REPORTED THEY HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE. 
          UH, A LOT OF DAMAGE TO OUR DISTRIBUTION LINES AND COMMUNICATIONS IN INFRASTRUCTURE OF COM TELECOM PROVIDERS. 
          MOST OF THE DAMAGE WAS AT THAT DISTRIBUTION LEVEL TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BUT THERE WAS A, A TRANSMISSION LINE THAT WAS DAMAGED GOING ACROSS LADY BIRD LAKE OVER NEAR LONGHORN DAM WHEN A CONSTRUCTION BARGE CRANE WAS PUSHED INTO OUR LINE FROM THE HIGH WINDS AND THAT CAUSED DAMAGE THAT COULD ONLY BE REPAIRED BY HELICOPTER. 
          SO WE SAW ALL KINDS OF IMPACTS FROM THIS EVENT. 
          WE SET UP MULTIPLE COMMUNITY 
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OUTREACH EVENTS TO ANSWER CUSTOMER QUESTIONS, AND IT ALSO HELPED WITH RESOURCES. 
          AND WE DID OUR BEST TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY INFORMED ALONG THE WAY, WHETHER THAT WAS THROUGH TARGETED TEXT MESSAGES, EMAILS, NEWS, MEDIA ALERTS, OR ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO THIS SLIDE HAS A LOT OF NUMBERS OF WHAT WE EXPERIENCED DURING THIS EVENT. 
          I'VE MENTIONED THAT WE HAD A PEAK OF 72,500 CUSTOMERS AFFECTED, BUT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS AFFECTED WAS 124,000 UNIQUE CUSTOMERS WHO WERE WITHOUT POWER AT ANY GIVEN POINT. 
          DURING THIS EVENT, WE HAD 91 POWER POLES THAT WE REPLACED, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF OF IMPACT THERE. 
          THE TYPICAL POLE REPLACEMENT ON A, ON A NORMAL DAY, JUST YOUR RUN OF THE MILL POLE REPLACEMENT TAKES A LARGER LINE CREW MORE THAN HALF A DAY TO REPLACE A SINGLE POLE. 
          AND SO WE HAD 91 OF THOSE. 
          WE REPLACED 52 TRANSFORMERS, 32,000 FEET OF OVERHEAD CABLE. 
          OUR CALL CENTERS FIELDED OVER 25,000 OUTAGE RELATED INQUIRIES. 
          AND BETWEEN OUR CREWS, OUR CONTRACT CREWS AND MUTUAL AID PROVIDERS, WE HAD NEARLY A THOUSAND PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD RESTORING POWER, NOT INCLUDING OUR DAMAGE ASSESSORS. 
          AND OUR INITIAL COST ESTIMATE FROM THIS RESPONSE IS $6.5 MILLION IN COSTS. 
          FROM THIS RESPONSE, THAT NUMBER IS LIKELY TO GO UP AS WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MUTUAL AID INVOICES COMING IN AS WELL. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO AUSTIN ENERGY IS A CONTINUOUS LEARNING ORGANIZATION, AND EACH TIME MOTHER NATURE THROWS A NEW LEARNING OPPORTUNITY AT US, WE FIND WAYS TO GET, UM, UH, FINDINGS FROM THOSE EVENTS AND LEARN FROM THAT AND IMPROVE WHAT WE DO GOING FORWARD. 
          AND SO WE'VE DONE THOROUGH AFTER ACTION REVIEWS PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING THIS TIME. 
          OUR PRIOR AFTER ACTION REPORTS AND IMPLEMENTATION UPDATES ARE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          AND THERE WE, WE SHOW HOW WE HAVE DOCUMENTED EACH AND EVERY FOLLOW UP ACTION FROM ALL OF THOSE STORMS AND HOW WE HAVE FOLLOWED UP ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE IDENTIFIED ACTION ITEMS. AND DURING THIS FOUR DAY STORM RESPONSE, WE EMPLOYED SEVERAL LESSONS LEARNED FROM PREVIOUS, UH, AFTER ACTION REVIEWS, PARTICULARLY FROM THE WINTER STORM MARA AFTER ACTION REVIEW. 
          AND SO IN THIS OUTAGE RESPONSE, WE, UM, WE IMPLEMENTED OUR NEW DEPARTMENTAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM, UH, THAT PROVIDES ENHANCED COMMUNICATIONS AND COLLABORATION, A NEW DAMAGE ASSESSMENT PROCESS TO MORE QUICKLY UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE AND COMPLEXITY OF OUR RESTORATION NEEDS, OUR PHASED RESTORATION 1, 2, 3 PROCESS THAT FOCUSES RESOURCES WHERE THOSE RESOURCES NEED TO GO, AND ALSO HELPS OUR CUSTOMERS UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, OUR ENHANCED OUTAGE MAP CAPACITY WITH ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING TO THE OUTAGE MAP. 
          UH, IN PREVIOUS STORMS WHEN WE HAD THOSE, THOSE PERIODS, THE, THE, THE WEBSITE COULDN'T HANDLE THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. 
          WE'VE FIXED THAT AS WELL. 
          AND, BUT BETTER MUTUAL AID COORDINATION AND PRE-DRAFT CONTRACTS SO THAT WE CAN BRING IN MUTUAL AID CREWS MORE RAPIDLY. 
          UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE IMPLEMENTED ANY OF THESE NEW CHANGES AND, UM, IT'S OUR ESTIMATION THAT WE'LL ONLY GET BETTER AT THIS GOING FORWARD. 
          AND NOW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR MAY MICROBURST STORM AFTER ACTION REVIEW. 
          AND SO THIS INVOLVES A DISCOVERY PROCESS, ANALYZING FEEDBACK, AND COMING UP WITH IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE IN A REPORT THAT WE EXPECT TO BE COMPLETE IN OCTOBER. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO LASTLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK ALL THE AUSTIN ENERGY TEAM MEMBERS, UM, FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK, WHETHER THAT WAS ON THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM IN THE CALL CENTER, OUT IN THE FIELD, WORKING MANY, MANY LONG HOURS AWAY FROM FAMILIES, UH, TO PROVIDE 24 HOUR COVERAGE. 
          ALSO, OUR PARTNERS AT HESS, AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND SEVERAL OF THE SUPPORT SERVICES DEPARTMENTS, UH, FOR, FOR THE COLLABORATION ON THIS RESPONSE, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR AMPLIFYING OUR MESSAGES THAT WE PUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING US GET WORD OUT TO OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE CUSTOMERS FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR PATIENTS. 
          EVERY OUTAGE EVENT IS A VERY FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE, BUT WE HEARD A LOT OF, OF SUPPORT FOR OUR LINE WORKERS, FOR THE MUTUAL AID PROVIDERS, AND I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, UM, AND, AND, UH, THEIR PATIENTS WITH US AS WE WORKED AS QUICKLY AND SAFELY TO GET THE LIGHTS BACK ON. 
          BUT, UM, AND BEFORE I, BEFORE I FINISH, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO WELL AT RESTORATION IN, IN OUTAGE SCENARIOS, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL THAT WE WANNA BE GOOD AT. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE OUTAGE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          THAT'S WHY OUR RESILIENCY PLAN IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          THAT'S WHY ALL THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO HARDEN OUR SYSTEM AND STUDYING THAT, AND YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO, UM, CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          EXCELLENT, UH, SEGUE THERE TO, UH, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, MOTHER NATURE HAS BEEN SENDING US FAR TOO MANY LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, RECENTLY. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT'LL, UH, SLOW DOWN A BIT. 
          I DID WANT TO JUST ASK ABOUT THAT, THE RESTORATION PROCESS OF THE PHASE 
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ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE APPROACH. 
          UH, MY SENSE FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT IN THE COMMUNICATIONS, UH, WAS THAT THERE WAS MORE CLARITY IN THE COMMUNICATIONS AND THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO BE PATIENT WHEN THEY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIMEFRAME THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT FOR POWER RESTORATION. 
          I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, EXPLAIN THAT, THAT PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE PROCESS A BIT. 
          ABSOLUTELY, YES. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE CALLING RESTORATION 1, 2, 3 OF THE PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE, UM, DURING PHASE ONE, THAT IS THE TIME WHEN WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR RESTORATION ACTIVITIES ON GETTING CRITICAL LOAD CUSTOMERS BACK ONLINE, LIKE HOSPITALS, CRITICAL COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, FIRST RESPONDER LOCATIONS, UM, ALONG WITH THE MAINLINE CIRCUIT. 
          SO GETTING THE BACKBONE OF THE SYSTEM BACK UP AND RUNNING DURING THAT PHASE ONE. 
          SO CRITICAL CUSTOMERS, HOSPITALS AND THINGS, UH, BACKBONE OF THE SYSTEM, UH, PHASE ONCE WE'RE THROUGH WITH THAT. 
          PHASE TWO IS WHEN WE MOVE INTO GETTING OFF OF THAT SYSTEM BACKBONE AND INTO SOME OF THE LATERAL LINES OFF OF THAT BACKBONE. 
          SO GOING INTO A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME OF SOME OF THOSE DISTRIBUTION, UM, LATERALS THAT AFFECT A LARGE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS. 
          AND IN THAT, WE WORK ALWAYS FROM, FROM LARGEST TO SMALLEST AND FROM OLDEST TO NEWEST OUTAGE. 
          UM, AND THEN PHASE THREE IS WHEN WE HAVE THE SMALLEST, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SINGLE OR DOUBLE OUTAGES WHEN YOU JUST HAVE A VERY ISOLATED, IT'S JUST AT THE TRANSFORMER, IT'S A OR IT'S A CUSTOMER SERVICE DROP INTO THEIR PROPERTY WHERE MAYBE THEY NEED AN ELECTRICIAN AND SO FORTH. 
          AND WE, UM, HAVE IMPROVED OUR PROCESSES A LOT IN TERMS OF GETTING WORD TO OUR CUSTOMERS OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF GETTING AN ELECTRICIAN. 
          DSD HAS BEEN GREAT ABOUT EXPEDITING THOSE, UH, THE PERMIT PROCESSES AND DOING, UH, THE INSPECTION AFTER THE FACT. 
          AND, AND SO THAT'S THE RESTORATION. 
          1, 2, 3. 
          AND THEN JUST A FINAL QUESTION, UH, FROM ME, UH, THE OUTAGE MAP. 
          HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF THE, UH, OUTAGE MAP? I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME UPGRADES AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THE OUTAGE MAP OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT IT? UM, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT EACH, EACH TIME THERE'S, THERE'S A VERY LARGE SCALE EVENT. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT MATERIALIZES ON THE OUTAGE MAP THIS TIME. 
          IT WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, LITTLE VERY MINOR THINGS THAT WE WORK WITH. 
          THE CBRA IS THE OUTAGE MAP VENDOR, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS TO REALLY ENHANCE THE CAPABILITIES OF THAT SYSTEM AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS FOR CUSTOMERS. 
          BECAUSE WHAT, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY WHAT WE SAW WAS, IT'S VERY GOOD ON A DAY-TO-DAY OUTAGE OF JUST YOUR NORMAL, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A A, A VERY LARGE, UH, OUTAGE EVENT LIKE THIS, IT'S, IT'S MAYBE NOT BUILT FOR THAT, BUT IT'S GETTING BETTER AT THAT. 
          AND I THINK WE HAD REALLY GOOD PERFORMANCE FROM IT THIS TIME AROUND. 
          GREAT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK, UH, THE, THE TEAM AT AUSTIN ENERGY, THE LINE WORKERS, EVERYBODY. 
          AND I, I THANK THE CUSTOMERS ALSO FOR THEIR PATIENCE. 
          I THINK FOLKS WERE, WERE, WERE PATIENT AND UNDERSTANDING, UH, AND, UH, THAT'S, UH, GREATLY APPRECIATED. 
          AND JUST GOTTA THANK, UH, TAMMY AND AMY 'CAUSE UH, THAT, THAT'S WHO I'M, UH, BLOWING UP THEIR PHONES WHEN, UH, THESE, UH, SITUATIONS  YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE,  AND, UH, MAYOR, I, I JUST WANNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND ON SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, THAT STEWART SAID AND THAT RELATES TO THE COMMUNICATIONS AND MESSAGING, UH, TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, OF COURSE WE'VE JUST COME THROUGH A COUPLE OF REALLY AWFUL, HORRIBLE WEEKS WHERE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON IS, IS COMMUNICATION. 
          AND OF COURSE, UH, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, UH, WE HAD THE BIG STORM AND ONE OF, ONE OF THE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY DID NOT DO A GOOD JOB AT AT ALL WAS COMMUNICATIONS DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND THE, THE LEVEL OF AE WORK TO PROVIDE LOTS OF COMMUNICATIONS AND TO PROVIDE IT AS THE CHAIRMAN HAS INDICATED IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE THAT, THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND AND, AND CAN RELATE TO, UH, I THINK HAS BEEN A, A, A TREMENDOUS UPGRADE. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN IT IN THE LAST TWO REAL INCIDENTS. 
          I THINK, UH, I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU DO, MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF US HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN, UH, GET IT OUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS TO, TO MORE PEOPLE. 
          SO I, I JUST COMMUNICATION I THINK IS KEY IN THESE CONTINUED AND PROBABLY MORE, UH, CRISIS SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, DISASTER SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE. 
          AND, AND THE, THE MOMENTUM THAT Y'ALL HAVE RIGHT NOW IS REALLY PRETTY, PRETTY GREAT. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO, UH, SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND ENCOURAGE IT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE, THE AUSTIN ENERGY CUSTOMERS WHO ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT, UM, AND ARE SIGNING UP TO GET NOTIFICATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND CONTINUE TO E ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          WELL SAID. 
          MAYOR. 
          ANY OTHER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER 
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MEDICINE? THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, NOT A QUESTION SO MUCH AS A COMPLIMENT, AND I'M GLAD AMY'S SITTING RIGHT THERE. 
          UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHO WE TALKED TO THE MOST. 
          SO AMY, THANK YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU THOSE UPDATES AS REGULAR UPDATES, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTDOWN 700 OUT 60 OUT 2010, YOU KNOW, THAT REAL TIME UPDATE IS SO HELPFUL WITH RESPONDING TO CONSTITUENTS IN REAL TIME. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW QUICKLY YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO RESTORE SERVICES, UM, WAS IMPRESSIVE. 
          I MEAN, EVEN JUST DRIVING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO MINE, THE DAMAGE WAS, I, I MEAN, JUST REALLY EXTRAORDINARY. 
          SO I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE EFFORT AND THE HARD WORK. 
          I KNOW IT, IT WAS A LUG, SO THANK YOU. 
          JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THE EFFORT. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          MEMBER LYNN. 
          SO I ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, WELL, STUART AND AMY HAVE, UM, A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT RELIABILITY AND HOW QUICKLY SERVICES ARE RESTORED. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FROM THE MOMENT THAT I TOOK THIS OFFICE. 
          YOU HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE TO MY CONCERNS. 
          UM, AND THIS IS ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF IT. 
          AND THEN DURING THIS PARTICULAR STORM, I ACTUALLY WAS, UM, ON THE UPPER DUCK OF 180 3, UNABLE TO MOVE WHILE IT WAS ALL GOING ON STILL QUITE FAR FROM MY DISTRICT ON MY WAY HOME. 
          SO I DID GET A FIRSTHAND VIEW, AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT IT WAS NOT A BIG EFFECT, BUT, AND YET I STILL GOT EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION IN MY DISTRICT. 
          AND WITH THAT, WE'LL SAY NOTHING ELSE AND LEAVE IT TO ALL REST OF Y ALL WHO WERE MORE IMPACTED. 
          BUT I ALSO WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING ALSO SO FAR AS INTERIM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL . 
          UH, THANK YOU JAY. 
          AND THANKS TO CTM FOR FIXING MY COMPUTER HERE, . 
          UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, I ALSO WANTED TO JOIN, UM, THE CHAIR AND MAYOR AND MY FELLOW PEERS, UH, THANKING AUSTIN ENERGY FOR YOUR POWERFUL RESPONSE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AMY EVERHART, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING A LOT OF YOUR ASSISTANT GMS WE'RE VERY MUCH IN TOUCH WITH MY OFFICE AS WELL. 
          AND, UH, JUST STUART PERSONALLY, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR COMING TO DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WALKING THE LINES WITH ME, KNOCKING ON DOORS. 
          UH, WE EVEN HAD A RARE BIRD, UH, THAT WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, MOVE ALONG AS IT WAS NESTING, UH, WHILE ALSO GETTING THE POWER BACK ON. 
          UH, SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE COORDINATED RESPONSE. 
          AND I KNOW, UM, I HAD, UH, CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT TO ME THAT WERE SEVERAL BLOCKS AWAY FROM WHERE WE WERE WALKING, AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH, WE HEARD THAT AUSTIN ENERGY AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE DISTRICT. 
          AND JUST SHOWING UP LIKE THAT AND SHOWING FACE AND TALKING IT THROUGH WITH PEOPLE, I THINK REALLY MADE A BIG IMPACT ON LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEIR CONCERNS WOULD BE ADDRESSED. 
          UM, I WANNA ALSO ASK, JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT'S COSTING AUSTIN ENERGY TO MAKE REPAIRS FOLLOWING THIS MICROBURST AND GIVING, GIVEN THE INCREASINGLY, UH, FREQUENT SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS, UM, IS AUSTIN ENERGY HAVING TO KIND OF CHANGE ITS PLANS FOR, UH, HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASED FREQUENCY, UH, OF THESE EVENTS AND WHETHER THAT IMPACTS YOUR BUDGET? YEAH, A GREAT QUESTION. 
          TH AND, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, UH, OF COURSE, I THINK YOU ARE ALL AWARE OF THE INCREASING UNCERTAINTY IN TERMS OF FEMA FUNDING AND AID AND REIMBURSEMENTS, UM, ON STORMS. THIS DOESN'T RISE TO THAT THRESHOLD. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE OF FEMA FUNDING IS VERY UNCERTAIN. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, NOR ARE OUR PEERS IN THE PUBLIC POWER SECTOR. 
          AND SO WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, THROUGH THE GROUPS THAT WE'RE A PART OF MAKING OUR CONCERNS HEARD IN WASHINGTON ABOUT THE NECESSITY OF GETTING THESE, THESE KINDS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, FUNDS TO REIMBURSE DISTRIBUTION, OUTAGE RESPONSE EFFORTS. 
          UM, IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE REALLY OF, OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, RUST MANIA SAID IT, UH, RECENTLY, THAT BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN. 
          AND THEY DO. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE FINANCIAL RESILIENCE AS A UTILITY AS WELL, TO JUST BE ABLE TO WEATHER ANY OF THESE KINDS OF STORMS BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING MORE FREQUENT, THEY ARE GETTING MORE SEVERE. 
          AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE THERE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          WE CAN'T SIT ANY OF THEM OUT, AND WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND EVEN IN THE FACE OF UNCERTAIN FEDERAL FUNDING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          BACK TO YOU CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MCCAURY. 
          UM, I'LL KEEP THE, UH, THE THEME GOING. 
          JUST WANT TO THANK Y'ALL AGAIN FOR, UH, AMY AND STEWART FOR Y'ALL'S HELP AND CONSTANT COMMUNICATION. 
          UH, NORMALLY THE LAST TEXT I GET, UH, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHT IS, IS FROM MY MOM SAYING GOODNIGHT, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS FROM Y'ALL ALSO SAYING GOODNIGHT, BUT ALSO GIVING UPDATES. 
          UH, SO REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT AND, AND REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE FOLKS WHO WERE, WHO WERE ON THE GROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE LIGHTS CAME BACK ON. 
          AND THEN ALSO REALLY DO APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH Y'ALL AND DOING THAT POPUP, UH, AT AE HEADQUARTERS, UH, A FEW DAYS AFTER. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER UCHIN. 
          UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UH, AGAIN, TO BUILD ON SOME OTHER COMMENTS HERE. 
          FIRST, GRATEFUL Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS, I THINK IN PARTICULAR, THE EXPECTATIONS OF CUSTOMERS 
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THAT HAD OUTAGES IN THE AREA IN A, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF APPROPRIATE WAY NOT, UM, IN, IN SOME CASES IT, WE WERE ONE OF THE LAST AREAS TO GET POWER BACK FOR FIVE DAYS, AND I THINK, UM, NOT OVERCOMMITTING OR UNDER COMMITTING THERE WAS PROBABLY REALLY HELPFUL FOR MANAGING THAT SITUATION. 
          AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF Y'ALL'S HELP DOING THAT. 
          UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND ONE COMMENT. 
          ONE, ONE QUESTION IS JUST TO UNDERSTAND, IN EVENTS LIKE THESE, WHAT IS REALLY DRIVING THE COSTS THAT Y'ALL EXPERIENCE? IS THE MUTUAL AID, IS IT THE COST OF ACTUALLY REPAIRING THINGS INFRASTRUCTURE? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT FOR A MOMENT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED. 
          UH, A LOT OF IT IS THE MUTUAL AID CREWS THAT WE'RE COMING IN THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, THAT ARE WORKING LONG HOURS. 
          AND, UM, THE 91 POLES THAT I MENTIONED, THE 52 TRANSFORMERS THAT I MENTIONED, ALL THE CONDUCTOR. 
          AND SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF, OF PERSONNEL TIME AND EQUIPMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TOUCH ON WAS, I, I THINK THE, THE MAYOR STARTED THIS WAS, UM, APPRECIATION ON THE COMMUNICATIONS FRONT, UM, NOT JUST WITH THE EXPECTATIONS, BUT, BUT ALSO FLAGGING A COUPLE ISSUES TOO. 
          I THINK WHEN WE TALKED OUT THERE, WE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS A PARTICULAR CHALLENGE WHERE YOU HAD IN, IN SOME CASES LIKE OURS, FOLKS THAT WERE WITHOUT POWER FOR DAYS, AND THEN WE WERE COMMUNICATING VIA TEXT OR ELECTRONICALLY IN SOME WAY. 
          AND THESE FOLKS HAD NO WAY TO CHECK THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN WITHOUT POWER, NOT ABLE TO CHARGE DEVICES. 
          SO I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ABOUT HOW TO CREATE SOME LEVEL OF REDUNDANCY OR MAYBE HOW TO ADVISE, UH, CUSTOMERS TO TAKE PREVENTATIVE ACTION THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN IS IN, IN, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHERS WHERE PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED AND JUST BUY GENERATORS. 
          AND THAT'S THE ANSWER. 
          AND I SUSPECT NOT EVERYBODY CAN DO THAT. 
          AND SO I THINK THERE WE PROBABLY NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE ADDRESS, UH, HOW TO REACH PEOPLE IN A SMART WAY. 
          I KNOW Y'ALL WENT DOOR TO DOOR, I KNOW Y'ALL HAD OTHER STRATEGIES, BUT, UM, MAYBE MAKING SOME ADDITIONAL CHANNELS AVAILABLE OR EFFORTS TO TRY AND CONNECT WITH PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO JUST GET THE COMMUNICATION YOU'RE SENDING BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO POWER. 
          UM, UH, AND THE, AND THE LAST THING IS GRATEFUL THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO WORK ON, UH, SOME SORT OF JOINT EVENT OR TOWN HALL AND I THINK AFTER BUDGET SEASON. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. 
          SO THANKS VIRA, ALL OF YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT WITH GETTING THAT ARRANGED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, AND, AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP, I, THAT IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS AND, UM, CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD ALL ALONG IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING A WORD, GETTING WORD OUT TO CUSTOMERS IN AND OUTAGE EVENT AS IT AS THEIR BATTERIES ARE DEPLETED AND AS THEY'RE LESS AND LESS ABLE TO GET WORD. 
          AND, AND WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT INTO A LOT OF OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS POPUPS THAT WE'VE DONE AT OUR WALK-IN PAYMENT CENTERS WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, BATTERIES AND, YOU KNOW, HAND CRANK RADIOS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          BUT IT'S, IT WHAT WILL CONTINUE IN TERMS OF GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND FIGURING OUT OTHER STRATEGIES OF GETTING WORD OUT AND, AND WE'LL CONTINUE REFINING IT. 
          BUT IT, IT'S A, IT'S A CHALLENGE FOR SURE, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE QUITE SOLVED IT, BUT WE, WE'LL CONTINUE TRYING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE GOT THE ANSWERS EITHER. 
          I MEAN, MY CARRIER PIGEONS AND SMOKE SIGNALS ARE PROBABLY NOT EXACTLY THE THING THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WALTER, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE COST. 
          WHERE IN YOUR BUDGET DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT? DOES THAT COME FROM? SO IN, IN OUR BUDGET, WE, UM, WE, WE PUT, UH, A, A CONTINGENCY, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LEVEL OF CONTINGENCY IN OUR BUDGET. 
          IT'S QUITE SMALL. 
          UM, I BELIEVE IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR A $2 BILLION BUDGET, WE PUT $20 MILLION OF CONTINGENCY IN OUR BUDGET, AND THAT'S FOR EMERGENCY EVENTS LIKE THIS. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 1% CONTINGENCY AT AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          WE'D LIKE THAT TO BE A LITTLE BIT GREATER, BUT THAT'S THE LEVEL WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET TO IN RECENT YEARS. 
          AND SO WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS COME ALONG, UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT BUDGETING FOR IT, BUT WE'RE PUTTING, WE, WE HAVE A CONTINGENCY, UH, SLOT IN THAT, IN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE THINGS. 
          IT IT, UNLESS THEY EXCEED THAT AMOUNT. 
          AND I'M, I'M SURE MARA BLEW WELL PAST THE CONTINGENCY. 
          I'M CURIOUS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, HOW HAS THAT AMOUNT COMPARED TO WHAT WE'VE NEEDED, RIGHT? YES. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THAT CONTINGENCY SOMETIMES ALSO HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR IF YOU HAVE, UM, A CRITICAL FAILURE THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED AT A GENERATION PLANT OR, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF THINGS. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT, THAT CONTINGENCY AMOUNT IS NOT JUST FOR STORM RESPONSE, BUT FOR ANY OF THE UNEXPECTED THINGS THAT COULD GO WRONG. 
          AND YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I, MY RECOLLECTION IS WE, OUR REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE GOT FROM WINTER STORM MARA IS A, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT MUCH 20 MILLION, BUT WE HAVE TO BRIDGE THE 
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GAP. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE MADE WHOLE, EVEN IF THERE IS A REIMBURSEMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH IN THE MEANTIME. 
          AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO, IF IT EXCEEDS THAT AMOUNT, IS IT'S GOING TO CHIP AWAY AT OUR DAY'S CASH ON HAND AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, DEPLETE OUR, OUR CASH RESERVES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND THE CONVERSATION ABOUT RESERVES. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A BACKSTOP, UH, FEMA, OTHER SOURCES THAT CAN COME THROUGH AN EMERGENCY, AND I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S, THAT'S LESS TRUE. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TRUE IT IS, BUT IT'S LESS TRUE TODAY. 
          UH, AND THAT REALLY DOES, UH, PUT A KIND OF AN URGENCY AROUND THE DISCUSSIONS, UH, AROUND NOT JUST AUSTIN ENERGY'S RESERVE AMOUNTS, BUT THE, THE CITIES, UH, AS WELL. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENERAL MANAGER. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, I'M SORRY, ITEM THREE, 
          [3. Briefing (semi-annual) on implementation of Austin Energy’s Resource, Generation and Climate Protection Plan. [Lisa Martin, Deputy General Manager and Chief Operating Officer - Austin Energy].]
THE SEMI-ANNUAL BRIEFING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AUSTIN ENERGY'S RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN BY DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER LISA MARTIN. 
          UH, MS. MARTIN FLOOR IS YOURS, AND WE WERE SO NICE TO HIM. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO BE MEAN. 
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          NO, NO, NO. 
          WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY. 
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          ALL GOOD. 
          GOOD MORNING, CHAIR VELA, VICE CHAIR SEGAL MAYOR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          I'M LISA MARTIN, AUSTIN ENERGY'S CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, AND TODAY I'M PROVIDING A PROGRESS UPDATE ON OUR RESOURCE GENERATION AND CLIMATE PROTECTION PLAN TO 2035. 
          MY SLIDES ARE GONNA COVER TWO MAIN TOPICS. 
          FIRST, I'LL COVER PROGRESS TO HE METRICS, AND THEN WE'LL SWITCH GEARS AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME IMPLEMENTATION PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS, STARTING WITH SOME KEY METRICS. 
          AND I WANNA START WITH THE OVERARCHING GOAL OF THE 2035 PLAN, WHICH IS CARBON FREE BY 2035. 
          SO THE YELLOW BARS YOU SEE HERE ARE THE HISTORICAL DATA, AND WE HAD OUR HIGHEST PERCENTAGE BACK IN 2022. 
          UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY SITTING AT 65% CARBON FREE AS A PERCENTAGE OF LOAD THAT DROP IN RECENT YEARS IS DUE TO MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH DURING THE GENERATION PLAN PROCESS, NAMELY CONGESTION, MEANING TRANSMISSION LINES ARE OVERWHELMED BY TOO MUCH ENERGY FROM WHERE THE GENERATION IS, UH, CREATED AND MOVING IT TO WHERE WE NEED IT CURTAILMENT, WHICH IS WHEN RESOURCES ARE, UH, GO OFFLINE BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH ENERGY IN A PARTICULAR PLACE. 
          AND DEMAND GROWTH SIMPLY DELIVERING MORE ENERGY OVERALL DILUTES OUR PERCENTAGE OF CARBON FREE ENERGY AS A PERCENTAGE OF LOAD. 
          BUT SIMPLY PUT, OUR, OUR CARBON FREE RESOURCES AREN'T GOING AS FAR THESE DAYS DUE TO THOSE FACTORS AND OTHERS. 
          AMONG ALL OF OUR EFFORTS, THOUGH THAT WE'LL HEAR ABOUT TODAY FOR THE RESOURCE GENERATION PLAN IMPLEMENTATION HAVE THIS METRIC IN MIND, AND THEY LOOK FOR WAYS TO BRING THE PERCENTAGE BACK UP. 
          ALSO ON THESE SLIDES, YOU'LL SEE IN THE SIDEBAR, UM, UH, NOTES THAT ARE POINTING TO WAYS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TO REACH THOSE GOALS. 
          SO IN THIS CASE, INCREASING LOCAL SOLAR AND LOCAL BATTERIES CAN HELP COMBAT CONGESTION, SO CAN IMPORT CAPACITY INCREASES, ADDING MORE WIND AND SOLAR IN PLACES WHERE THERE'S LESS CONGESTION. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES, UM, AND PROGRAM AS PART OF OUR CULTURE OF INNOVATION. 
          IN THIS NEXT SERIES OF SLIDES, I'LL FOCUS ON PROGRESS TOWARDS THE GOALS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE PLAN. 
          THE SOLID BAR SHOWS THE PROGRESS TO DATE AND THE HASH BARS SHOW THE REMAINING AMOUNT TO THE GOALS. 
          SO THE CHART ON THE LEFT SPEAKS TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS HAVE HAD FANTASTIC ACHIEVEMENTS SINCE THEY ORIGINATED IN 2007. 
          WE'VE REACHED 844 MEGAWATTS INSTALLED CAPACITY, OR 86% OF THE GOAL AS OF THE END OF LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          THE REMAINING AMOUNT, UH, IS A CHALLENGE AS IT CALLS FOR AN AVERAGE OF 40 MEGAWATTS PER YEAR. 
          AND THE CONSULTANT STUDY FROM DNV ENERGY INSIGHTS REFLECTED IN ACHIEVABLE POTENTIAL OF ABOUT 30 MEGAWATTS ANNUALLY. 
          THIS PLUS, UH, BENEFICIAL ELECTRI ELECTRIFICATION MEANS, UH, LIKE MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, UM, AND MORE ELECTRIC APPLIANCES MEANS THAT OUR MEGAWATTS MAY BE GOING UP. 
          BUT AS WE SHIFT TO GOALS OF AVOIDING GREENHOUSE GASES, WE'LL STILL CONTINUE TO SEE BENEFIT TO THE SYSTEM. 
          THE CHART ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THERMAL ENERGY STORAGE, AND WE ARE AT 28 MEGAWATTS AS OF THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, TOWARDS OUR GOAL OF 40 MEGAWATTS BY 2030. 
          SHIFTING TO DEMAND RESPONSE, WE HAVE A NEAR TERM GOAL IN 2027, AS WELL AS A 2035 LONGER TERM GOAL. 
          DEMAND RESPONSE REFERS TO HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY WE CAN CALL UPON TO REDUCE SUMMER PEAKS WHEN ELECTRICITY IS SCARCEST AND MOST EXPENSIVE. 
          WE CAN CURRENTLY ACHIEVE 48 MEGAWATTS REDUCTION, OR 62% OF OUR NEAR TERM GOAL, WHICH IS 78 MEGAWATTS. 
          AND AS YOU MAY RECALL, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WE ADDED MORE THAN 150 CITY FACILITIES TO COMMERCIAL DEMAND RESPONSE AND ALL, THERE ARE NOW 195 CITY BUILDINGS ENROLLED, WHICH IS AN ESTIMATED 6.4 MEGAWATTS OF DEMAND RESPONSE OVERALL. 
          SWITCHING GEARS TO LOCAL SOLAR, WE HAVE ENORMOUS POSITIVE MOMENTUM WITH THE LAUNCH OF OUR SOLAR STANDARD OFFER AND THE PENDING LAUNCH OF OUR SOLAR FOR ALL PROGRAMS. AND WE HAD THE MOST SUCCESSFUL 
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YEAR IN 20, UH, 24 GENERATING 16 MEGAWATTS OF ADDITIONAL LOCAL SOLAR INSTALLATIONS. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ON TRACK TO EXCEED THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          UM, HOWEVER, THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF 405 MEGAWATTS BY 2035 NECESSITATES EXCEEDING OUR UNPRECEDENTED SUCCESS EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S ALSO RECENT CHANGES TO THE FEDERAL TAX INTENSIVES, WHICH ELIMINATE, UM, RESIDENTIAL SOLAR TAX CREDITS AS SOON AS JANUARY 1ST, 2026. 
          SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES, UH, ON THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, AND LOCAL SOLAR FRONT. 
          NOW I'M GONNA SPEAK MORE ABOUT LOCAL BATTERY STORAGE IN ANOTHER SLIDE, BUT I WANT, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SHARE THAT. 
          UH, WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY TO OUR 125 MEGAWATTS BY 2027 GOAL. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THE 14.6 MEGAWATTS THAT'S CURRENTLY INSTALLED ON OUR SYSTEM, WE ARE, UH, BRINGING TO YOU A CONTRACT FOR, UH, UM, AUTHORIZATION, UM, FOR A HUNDRED MEGAWATTS, UM, PENDING YOUR APPROVAL AND, UH, FINAL NEGOTIATIONS, AND WE'LL BE WELL ON OUR WAY TO THE 125 MEGAWATT GOAL. 
          UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE, UH, CHANGES GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND IN THE RESOURCE PLAN, YOU ALSO ASKED US TO REPORT OUT ON SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT METRICS. 
          ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE, UM, SOME GRAPHS OF PORTFOLIO STACK EMISSIONS. 
          UH, THE TOP IS CARBON DIOXIDE AND THE BOTTOM IS NITROGEN OXIDES. 
          YOU'LL SEE THOSE NUMBERS ARE DECREASING YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          HISTORICALLY, CARBON DIOXIDE HAS BEEN AS HIGH AS 6 MILLION METRIC TONS IN YEARS THAT ARE BEYOND WHAT'S SHOWN HERE ON THE GREEN. 
          UM, IN YELLOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 2024, IT WAS LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF MILLION. 
          WE ALSO MEASURE CARBON INTENSITY THAT'S ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE. 
          CARBON INTENSITY IS A MEASURE OF HOW MUCH EMISSIONS ARE PRODUCED PER AMOUNT OF ENERGY GENERATED, AND THE GUARDRAIL IS SHOWN AS THAT DOTTED LINE. 
          UH, THE GUARDRAIL SETS AN APPROPRIATE UPPER BOUNDARY TO ENSURE EMISSIONS ARE TRENDING DOWNWARD, EVEN IF THE ENERGY GENERATED IS INCREASING DUE TO GROWTH OR OTHER FACTORS. 
          AND SO THE GUARDRAILS THAT WERE SET DURING THE GEN PLAN, OR THE AVERAGE NUMBER FROM 2021 TO 2023, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 2024, OUR ANNUAL, OUR ACTUAL CARBON INTENSITY IS BELOW THE GUARDRAIL, BOTH ACROSS OUR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO, WHICH IS THE TOP BLUE CHART, AND HERE LOCALLY IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM ORANGE CHART. 
          OKAY, NOW WE'LL SHIFT GEARS TO TALK ABOUT SOME UPDATES ON FOUR KEY EFFORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED. 
          AND THE FIRST IS A 2024 INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE, WHICH YOU ADOPTED IN APRIL, AND IT BECAME EFFECTIVE EARLIER THIS MONTH. 
          ADOPTION OF THIS CODE SETS THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN ENERGY BUILDING CODES AND GREEN BUILDING DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S, SO, IT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE LEAD WITH ENERGY EFFICIENCY. 
          THE SECOND UPDATE IS ON THE DNV ENERGY INSIGHTS STUDY. 
          YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE HAD DNV PERFORMING A THIRD PARTY ASSESSMENT OF THE MARKET POTENTIAL FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, DEMAND RESPONSE, AND LOCAL SOLAR. 
          THE REPORT, WHICH IS NOW FINAL INFORMED THE GOALS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE PLAN. 
          ALTHOUGH SOME STRETCH GOALS WERE SET BEYOND THE CURRENT MARKET POTENTIAL STUDY, THE DNV REPORT ALSO SETS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE FUTURE SHIFT TO GREENHOUSE GAS AVOIDANCE GOALS. 
          IN THE CENTER OF THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE SOME COST ESTIMATES AND THE REPORT ESTIMATES YEARLY CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTION PROGRAM SPENDING WILL NEED TO MORE THAN DOUBLE TO MEET ACHIEVABLE MEGAWATT SAVINGS OUTLINED IN THE STUDY FROM 32 MEGAWATT, UH, 32 MILLION IN 2025 TO OVER 69 MILLION IN 2035. 
          THE GEN PLAN, AS YOU KNOW, SET EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE GOALS THAT DIDN'T ALWAYS INCLUDE THE IMPACT ON RATES WHEN ADOPTED. 
          AND AS A REMINDER THOUGH, THE REASON THAT WE SET WE THE GEN PLAN LEADS WITH CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS IS BECAUSE WE KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS. THEY'RE CLEAN AND THEIR CUSTOMER FRIENDLY. 
          THESE GOALS HAVE TO STRIKE THE BALANCE BETWEEN BEING ACHIEVABLE YET COST EFFECTIVE. 
          AND SO SOME OF THESE RESULTS MAY NOT BE COST EFFECTIVE, ESPECIALLY AS WE TRY TO SQUEEZE OUT THE LAST LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT PART OF OUR STRATEGY FOR REACHING GOALS IN AREAS INCLUDES A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF HOW WE'RE MEASURING OUR PROGRAMS, AND WE'RE NEARING THE END OF A SELECTION PROCESS FOR AN EVALUATION MEASUREMENT AND VERIFICATION CONSULTANT WHO WILL KEEP US ALIGNED WITH THE BEST INDUSTRY PRACTICES FOR HOW WE MEASURE THE PORTFOLIO AND IDENTIFY NEW AREAS OF SAVINGS. 
          AND WE PLAN TO BRING IN RCA FOR THAT CONTRACT TO COUNCIL IN THE COMING MONTHS. 
          AND FINALLY, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT CUSTOMERS ARE WILLING TO ADOPT IN THE AREA OF DEMAND RESPONSE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE ENTIRELY DEPENDENT ON CUSTOMER'S WILLINGNESS TO ENROLL IN THOSE PROGRAMS AND THEN TO ENGAGE IN CURTAILMENT WHEN THE DR EVENTS ARE CALLED. 
          SO SOMETIMES THERE ARE SHORTFALLS IN WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE WITH CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE UP FOR THOSE BY THE REST OF THE GENERATION MIX TO, UM, TO MEET OUR CUSTOMER'S NEEDS. 
          AND ONE WAY WE DO THAT IS BY INCREASING OUR, UM, LOCAL UTILITY SCALE, UH, UH, GENERATION INCLUDING, UH, BATTERIES AND RENEWABLES. 
          UM, WE'LL SEE THAT IN A MOMENT WHEN WE GO 
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THERE, BUT I NEED TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND FRAME, UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPLEX COMPLEXITIES THAT WE'RE FACING HERE. 
          UM, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T POINT OUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND UNCERTAINTIES AROUND PROCURING THOSE RENEWABLES AND BATTERIES. 
          THE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL ACT ELIMINATES PRODUCTION TAX CREDITS AND INVESTMENT TAX CREDITS FOR WIND AND SOLAR BEGINNING IN 2028. 
          AND SO TO QUALIFY FOR THOSE CREDITS PRIOR TO ELIMINATION, THE RESOURCE MUST BEGIN SERVICE BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST, 2027, UNLESS ITS BEGINS CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A YEAR OF THE BILL'S ADOPTION. 
          THERE'S ALSO, OF COURSE, GEOPOLITICAL TENSIONS THAT CONTINUE AND THEY'RE IMPACTING SUPPLY CHAIN AND COST FOR MANY COMPONENTS OF RENEWABLE RESOURCES. 
          AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S FOREIGN ENTITY OF CONCERN REQUIREMENTS THAT COME INTO EFFECT FOR ALL PROJECTS AT THE START OF NEXT YEAR. 
          SO A NUMBER OF, OF, UM, UPWARD BATTLES TO, UH, CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS. 
          ALL RIGHT, UM, THAT SAID, WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD, UM, AS BEST WE CAN AND ONTO A BIT OF GOOD NEWS. 
          UM, YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE ISSUED A BATTERY STORAGE RFP IN EARLY FEBRUARY, AND WE MADE QUICK WORK OF THE ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY TOP CANDIDATES. 
          AND SO I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT THERE'S AN ITEM, IT'S NUMBER 16 ON YOUR ACCOUNT AGENDA ON THURSDAY TO AUTHORIZE NEGOTIATION AND EXECUTION OF A UTILITY SCALE BATTERY STORAGE CONTRACT WITH JUPITER POWER. 
          UM, THIS CONTRACT IS UP TO A HUNDRED MEGAWATTS LOCAL BATTERY STORAGE AND UP TO FOUR HOURS IN DURATION. 
          UM, IT IS INTENDED TO BE CITED WITHIN AUSTIN ENERGY SERVICE TERRITORY, ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS. 
          UM, AND THE EXPECTED COMMERCIAL OPERATION DATE IS THE END OF 2026. 
          SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT'LL GO REALLY FAR AWAY IN TOWARDS OUR 125 MEGAWATT GOAL. 
          UM, IF ALL GOES WELL, IT'LL JUST PUT US JUST SHY OF THAT GOAL, BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER ONGOING DISCUSSIONS FOR A SECOND POTENTIAL BATTERY CONTRACT THAT SHOULD HELP US REACH THE FINAL GOAL. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, I'LL END ON SOME MORE GOOD NEWS. 
          THE SOLAR STANDARD OFFER, UH, PROGRAM IS PROVING VERY POPULAR. 
          IT ALLOWS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO LEASE SPACE TO SOLAR DEVELOPERS CREATING A REVENUE STREAM FOR THEM WITHOUT AN UPFRONT CAPITAL INVESTMENT. 
          AND SO WE JUST LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM AROUND THE TURN OF THE YEAR AND THERE ARE ALREADY 10 PROJECTS PENDING INSTALL TOGETHER. 
          THOSE PROJECTS WOULD MORE THAN DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OF OUR COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM. 
          SO IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE OUT ON A GOOD NOTE. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF GOOD NOTES ACTUALLY. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR SEMI-ANNUAL UPDATE. 
          YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK UNDERWAY FOR THE GEN PLAN. 
          UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, UH, VERY MUCH. 
          MS. MARTIN, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER? THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, RIGHT WHERE YOU LEFT OFF ON OUR SOLAR PROGRAMS. UM, DOES I, I READ IN A RECENT IGRO MEMO, THE SOLAR FOR ALL PROGRAM, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RELY ON THAT FUNDING. 
          CAN YOU JUST GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT? YEAH, RICHARD, CAN YOU COME UP AND HELP SUPPORT? UM, I'LL START WITH JUST THE BASICS OF IT. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, THAT FUNDING IS CONTINUING FROM WHAT I'M READING, BUT RICHARD, CAN YOU KEEP ME HONEST HERE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, RICHARD GENESEE, VICE PRESIDENT OF CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS. 
          AND UH, YES, ALL INDICATIONS ARE TO DATE THAT THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO CONTINUE. 
          AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE PART OF A COALITION, UH, FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, THAT HAD, THIS WAS ALL PART OF A $7 BILLION AWARD GRANT. 
          TEXAS GOT 250 MILLION, WE GOT 32 MILLION OF THE 250. 
          HARRIS COUNTY IS THE PRIME, AND WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. 
          UH, WE HAVE NO INDICATIONS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, THERE'S CERTAINLY RISK, BUT WE HAVE NO INDICATIONS THAT THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE, UH, PLAN OR THREAT TO, UH, TAKE AWAY THOSE FUNDS. 
          AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE OR EXPECTATION ON WHEN THOSE FUNDS ARE SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY BE SENT TO US? THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT SENT TO US. 
          IT'S ALL A REIMBURSEMENT MODEL, AND THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT  JUST LOOKING OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS, THAT, UH, GIVES ME PAUSE, BUT WE'LL ALL HOPE FOR THE BEST ON THAT. 
          UH, I WANTED TO ALSO ASK AS IT RELATES TO OUR, UM, SOLAR PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE TAX BILL THAT IS NOW, UH, NOT ONLY JUST GONNA MAKE ENERGY MORE EXPENSIVE FOR EVERYBODY, BUT ONE OF THE CHEAPEST FORMS, YOU KNOW, SOLAR IS LOSING, UH, A REAL APPEAL AS IT RELATES FOR RESIDENTS FOR THAT 30% TAX CREDIT. 
          SO I'M CURIOUS, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT OUR $2,500 INCENTIVE, WHETHER WE MIGHT NEED TO ADJUST THAT TO BE ABLE TO STILL MEET OUR GOALS, RECOGNIZING THAT JUST THAT PAYOFF PERIOD IS CHANGING WHEN SOMEONE GOES TO INSTALL SOLAR WITHOUT THE 30% 
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FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? YES, WE, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY, UH, CONSIDERING THAT, BUT, UH, WE SHOULD ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S BEEN A TREND OF WHICH AUSTIN ENERGY IS EXPERIENCING THE SAME TREND THAT'S HAPPENING NATIONALLY OF A SMALLER AND SMALLER PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTIAL JOBS THAT ARE ACTUALLY BEING INCENTIVIZED. 
          AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS FOR THAT. 
          UH, UH, LARGE PROVIDERS HAVE BEEN PULLING OUT OF PROGRAMS AND WE'RE NO EXCEPTION, UM, I WON'T NAME THE PROVIDERS, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE ALL BEEN PULLING OUT BECAUSE THEY WANT A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH TO HOW TO APPROACH THE SOLAR MARKET AND THEY DON'T WANNA, UH, CUSTOMIZE UTILITY BY UTILITY. 
          SO THERE'S LARGE PROVIDERS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLING OUT. 
          SO WE'VE SEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, A DECREASE, WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 50% RIGHT NOW. 
          50% OF RESIDENTIAL SOLAR IS INCENTIVIZED. 
          UH, 50% IS NOT. 
          AND THAT TREND CONTINUES DOWNWARD. 
          BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY CONSIDERING THAT. 
          THAT'S VERY INTERESTING TREND. 
          UH, WHO ARE YOU RUNNING OR IN CHARGE OF THE DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAM OR, UH, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A, AN ENHANCED PROGRAM OR A REVAMPING THAT PROGRAM, DOES THAT FALL UNDER YOU AS WELL? YES, IT DOES, SIR. 
          WHAT IS THE STATUS OF OUR DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAM AND, AND WHERE WE WANT TO TAKE IT? SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, PLANS IN PLACE FOR EXPANDING OUR DEMAND RESPONSE PROGRAM AND UNDERSTAND THAT DEMAND RESPONSE AND OUR BATTERY PROGRAM GO HAND IN HAND. 
          UM, AND AS SUCH, WE HAVE EVERYTHING, WELL, AS LISA JUST ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM UTILITY SCALE, UM, UH, BATTERIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH CUSTOMER, UH, CITED BATTERIES. 
          AND ON THE DEMAND RESPONSE FRONT, IT IS THE MOST CHALLENGING PORTION OF OUR RESOURCE AND GENERATION PLAN FOR THE REASONS THAT LISA CITED. 
          SO WE, WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON IT. 
          IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR, UM, INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO SPEND DOLLARS, BUT IT IS VERY DEPENDENT ON CUSTOMERS PARTICIPATING. 
          SO A LOT OF OUR ATTENTION AND FOCUS AND THINKING GOES INTO HOW DO WE CONVINCE CUSTOMERS TO PARTICIPATE MORE, AND INCENTIVE IS JUST ONE PORTION OF THAT. 
          SO, ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          COUNCILOR SIEGEL, THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU, UH, DEPUTY GM MARTIN AND, AND VP GENESEE. 
          UM, I HAD A KIND OF A FEW WIDE RANGING QUESTIONS. 
          UM, BUT FIRST, UH, LISA, WOULD YOU MIND, WOULD YOU PREFER IF WE SAVE ON THE BATTERY QUESTIONS UNTIL THURSDAY, OR CAN WE GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT NOW WITH THE BATTERY? RP, YOU'RE FREE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, SO, UH, I UNDERSTAND WE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED MEGAWATTS OF BATTERY STORAGE ON THURSDAY'S AGENDA. 
          I ALSO HEARD THAT THERE MIGHT BE POTENTIALLY A SECOND RESPONDENT, UM, TO THE RFP. 
          COULD YOU SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT TODAY? YEAH, SIMPLY THAT WE ARE, UM, CONTINUING NEGOTIATIONS AND WORKING WITH A SECOND POTENTIAL COUNTERPARTY. 
          UM, AND, UH, THAT, THAT SECOND CONTRACT, IF WE'RE ABLE TO BRING IT TO YOU, IF THINGS GO SUCCESSFULLY, IT WILL ACTUALLY PUT US ABOVE OUR 125 MEGAWATT GOAL BY 2027. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          THAT'S EXCITING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN I UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT BE A, A PILOT GEOTHERMAL FACILITY. 
          I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD SHARE ANY MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT? YEAH, SO, UM, THE PILOT GEOTHERMAL FACILITY IS, UH, ONE THAT WE'VE REPORTED ON A NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR. 
          IT'S FIVE MEGAWATTS. 
          AND, UM, IT, I THINK, UH, GENERAL MANAGER, UH, RILEY MENTIONED THIS DURING ONE OF HIS PREVIOUS UPDATES THAT, UM, IT'S BEEN HIT WITH A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES, UM, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO, UH, TARIFFS AND, UM, AND, AND IN SOME CASES, UM, UH, JUST INCREASED COST SUPPLY CHAIN SITUATIONS. 
          UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE, UH, COUNTERPARTY TO TRY TO RESCUE THAT PROJECT. 
          LAST UPDATE I HEARD WAS THAT IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS MORE ON THE FAVORABLE, UM, SAY STATE. 
          IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S, UH, MAYBE MOVING LOCATIONS FROM EAST TEXAS TO SOUTH TEXAS, BUT ON A PART THAT ISN'T AS CONGESTED, I THINK. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT THE PARTNERSHIPS THEY'RE WORKING ON, INCLUDING WITH AUSTIN ENERGY, UM, ARE LOOKING LIKE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BREAK GROUND LATER THIS YEAR, UM, WITH ENERGY DELIVERY EXPECTED POTENTIALLY LATE, UM, NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. 
          UM, SO A LITTLE LATER THAN WE HAD HOPED, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL, UM, SURVIVING THUS FAR AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO RESCUE IT. 
          RIGHT ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THIS, ON THE THEME OF THESE LIKE TOUGH MARKET CONDITIONS, UM, AS WE TRY TO CONTRACT FOR, UM, RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES LIKE BATTERY AND SOLAR, UH, HAS THE LANDSCAPE CHANGED? IS IT MORE DIFFICULT TO CONTRACT THOSE ENERGY RESOURCES? IT IS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I I IMAGINE THAT WHEN WE DO OUR NEXT, UM, OUR FP WE'RE GONNA SEE, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPOSALS, INCREASED COSTS IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. 
          WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS IN THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE WITH THOSE WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY OFFERED INTO RFPS THAT, UM, COUNTERPARTIES ARE FACING MORE AND MORE UNCERTAINTY 
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AS THE, THE RULES ARE CHANGING AND, UM, AND KIND OF SETTLING. 
          UM, AND SO IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR THEM TO BRING A SOLID OFFER TO US, WHICH MAKES IT HARDER FOR US TO BRING IT TO YOU AND FIND ONE THAT'S, THAT WORKS WELL FOR OUR, UM, ULTIMATE CUSTOMERS, BUT OUR TEAMS CONTINUE TO WORK AS BEST THEY CAN DESPITE THE SITUATION. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION, UM, AND IT MAY BE FOR A SUBSEQUENT BRIEFING, BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THE COUNCIL IS, IS LOOKING AT IS, UH, INCREASING NATURAL GAS PRICES AND WE'RE INVOLVED IN A, A CASE REGARDING THAT. 
          AND I'M WONDERING, UM, IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BENEFICIAL ELECTRIFICATION INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY COULD LOOK AT THAT WOULD HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMERS FIND AN ALTERNATE TO A HIGHER NATURAL GAS PRICES? UM, ON THE BENEFICIAL ELECTRIFICATION FRONT, UM, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR BENEFICIAL ELECTRIFICATION THROUGH COOKING. 
          SO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S COOKING IS AN AREA YET TO BE EXPLORED. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          WE'LL KEEP LOOKING AT THAT. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO A COUPLE OF, UH, UH, QUESTIONS ON THE, THE SOLAR NUMBERS, UH, AND THE BATTERY NUMBERS, UH, FOR THAT MATTER, IN TERMS OF THE LOCAL CAPACITY, THAT INCLUDES PRIVATE, UH, AS WELL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMES THAT HAVE BATTERY STORAGE THAT WE CAN DRAW ON THAT, THAT DISTRIBUTED KIND OF, UH, MODEL THAT D DO THOSE NUMBERS INCLUDE? UH, BOTH, YOU KNOW, OUR KIND OF OWNED AND OR MANAGED GENERATION AND OTHER GENERATION AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN OUR, UH, OUR, OUR AREA, AS LONG AS IT'S IN OUR SERVICE TERRITORY, SPECIFICALLY FOR BATTERY STORAGE, THE, UM, 14.6 MEGAWATTS, A MAJORITY OF THAT IS, UM, INSTALLED ON RESIDENTIALS THAT WE MAY NOT YET HAVE CONTROL OVER. 
          BUT I SEE IT AS A MATURITY MODEL, UM, AS MORE AND MORE CUSTOMERS ADOPT IT. 
          UM, AND AS WE CONTINUE TO ENABLE IT, IT'S, IT'S WITHIN OUR LOCAL SERVICE TERRITORY, IT'S PROVIDING SOME, UM, VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WHETHER IT'S THE THE OWNER OR THE BROADER GRID. 
          YEAH, NO, A ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, IN A CRISIS SITUATION, THOSE BATTERIES ARE THERE TO BE USED AND THAT'S GONNA REDUCE THE OVERALL LOAD THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, TO, TO PROVIDE. 
          UM, AND THE, THE, THE STACK EMISSIONS OF SLIDES, THAT'S ALL, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY SOURCES, WHETHER WITHIN OR OUTSIDE OF OUR, UH, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT STACK EMISSIONS. 
          SO THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THAT IS ACROSS OUR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE FOREIGN ENTITY OF CONCERN. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? THAT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH, UM, CERTAIN COUNTRIES? UM, THE ONE THAT KEEPS COMING UP IN, IN ARTICLES IS, IS CHINA MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND, AND THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN VARIOUS, UH, PROJECTS. 
          AND IF THEY ARE INVOLVED, THEN IT CAN IMPACT THE, UM, TAX CREDITS SOONER THAN SOME OF THESE OTHER DATES. 
          HMM, OKAY. 
          UH, AND I'M SORRY, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS TO THOSE RULES THAT I'M GLOSSING OVER HERE. 
          UM, AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, MEMOS FROM, UH, GOVERNMENT RELATIONS AND WHATNOT REALLY ARE PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE TO, TO GO FOR SOME MORE DETAILS THERE. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND I JUST, I ASK BECAUSE IN MY CAPACITY AS A BOARD MEMBER OF CAPITAL METRO AS WELL, WE, WE RUN JUST SIMILAR CONCERNS. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDING IN, IN, UH, TRANSIT, UH, AND THERE ARE KIND OF BUY AMERICAN PROVISIONS IN IN TRANSIT, WHICH AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND. 
          HOWEVER, THAT REALLY DOES LIMIT, UH, THE TYPES OF, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT CAN BE PURCHASED QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY AND, AND POTENTIALLY RAISE THE COST QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          PRIOR TO THIS, YOU ALL, DOES AUSTIN ENERGY HAVE A LOT OF LIMITATIONS OR CAN YOU ALL KIND OF GLOBALLY SOURCE, YOU KNOW, TRANSFORMERS OR WHATEVER OTHER KIND OF, UH, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT YOU NEED? WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU MENTIONED TRANSFORMERS RIGHT THERE. 
          WE, THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, UM, CAPABILITIES TO SOURCE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, AND IN MANY CASES WE DO. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS, UM, DIFFERENT REGULATIONS, THE LYMPH STAR INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION ACT AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, AND THEN AS THERE BY AMERICAN, UM, PROVISIONS THAT COME INTO PLAY IN DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE SPECIFICS OF THAT I'M NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK TO HERE, BUT, UM, NO PROBLEM, UH, UH, UNDERSTOOD. 
          I, I KNOW THAT, UH, THERE WAS, WHEN THERE WAS A TRANSFORMER SHORTAGE, I, I, I KNOW THAT THAT REALLY KIND OF, WE STARTED TO LOOK, UH, IN EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY TO, THAT'S FOR TRANSFORMERS, AND, AND I KNOW THAT'S A, AN ONGOING, UH, CONCERN. 
          THEN FINALLY TOWARD, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER'S QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE REIMBURSEMENTS. 
          HAVE WE OR ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COALITION, HAVE WE ACTUALLY GOTTEN DOLLARS BACK FROM THAT GRANT YET? NO. 
          OUR FIRST SUBMISSION IS GONNA BE WITH A HIRE THAT WE ARE IN THE FINAL STEPS OF COMPLETING NOW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT WILL ADD UNDER THIS GRANT THAT WILL BE OUR FIRST, UH, EXPENSE THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING FOR REIMBURSEMENT. 
          AND WE TOOK THAT, UH, PATH DELIBERATELY TO GO SLOW. 
          THERE'S THREE FTES THAT ARE PART OF THIS, UH, 
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GRANT, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON ONE, JUST IN THE EVENT THAT IT DOESN'T GET, UH, REIMBURSED, FINGERS CROSSED THAT, UH, WE ACTUALLY GET THE MONEY. 
          UH, THANK YOU, UH, VERY MUCH AND, UH, APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE, THE BRIEFING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN LET'S 
          [4. Briefing on Overhead Distribution Resilience Study. [Lisa Martin, Deputy General Manager and Chief Operating Officer and David Tomczyszyn, Vice President, Electric System Engineering & Technical Services - Austin Energy and Michael Cote, Project Delivery Director - 1898 & Co.].]
GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR, A BRIEFING ON THE OVERHEAD DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCE STUDY, UH, BY OUR COO. 
          AGAIN, LISA MARTIN AND HER TEAM. 
          MS. MARTIN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS AGAIN. 
          WELL, I WILL, UM, GIVE THE FLOOR TO, UM, OUR TWO OTHER PRESENTERS, BUT I'LL JUST SET THE STAGE HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AT A PREVIOUS UTILITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE SHARED WITH YOU BOTH, UM, UH, DAVID TOM, VICE PRESIDENT AUSTIN ENERGY, AND A MEMBER OF 1898, UM, ONE OF MICHAEL CODY'S, UH, COLLEAGUES CAME AND PRESENTED TO YOU ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE UNDERGROUNDING, UM, FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          AND THIS IS A SECOND PART OF, OF THAT TYPE OF WORK, UM, FOCUSING ON OVERHEAD DISTRIBUTION, RESILIENCY. 
          AND, UH, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DAVID AND TO MICHAEL AND, UH, THEY'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU, LISA. 
          UH, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND, AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          AGAIN, MY NAME IS, UH, DAVID TOM CHESON AND VICE PRESIDENT OF ELECTRIC SYSTEM ENGINEERING AND TECHNICAL SERVICES, AND I'M HERE WITH MICHAEL CODY WITH 1898 AND COMPANY. 
          IT'S THE CONSULTING ARM OF BURNS AND MCDONALD'S TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE OVERHEAD HARDENING STUDY. 
          UH, THIS STUDY IS ONE MAJOR STEP IN THE, IN DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PLAN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN THAT WILL GUIDE US OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND BEYOND, AND MAKE OUR ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, MORE RELIABLE AND RESILIENT FOR OUR AGENDA. 
          UH, I I'LL GIVE A BRIEF SYSTEM OVERVIEW AND THEN SOME BACKGROUND, AND THEN MICHAEL WILL PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY. 
          THEN I'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL WRAP IT ALL UP AND DISCUSS NEXT STEPS AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, WITH THAT, UH, I WILL ALSO ASK THAT EVERYONE PLEASE HOLD ANY QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END, UH, BEING WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF, UH, MATERIAL TO COVER HERE TODAY. 
          SO, AS BACKGROUND RECENT EVENTS SUCH AS YURI MARA, AND MOST RECENTLY THE MAY, 2020, UH, FIVE, MICROBURST REINFORCED THE IMPORTANCE OF INVESTMENTS TO STRENGTHEN THE, UH, OUR ELECTRIC GRID. 
          AFTER YURI, WE APPLIED FOR A BRICK GRANT, UH, WHICH IS BUILDING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE IN, IN COMMUNITIES, UH, FROM, UH, FEMA AND TEEM. 
          UH, AND IN 2003, WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT FOR THE, UH, FOR OUR OVERHEAD RESILIENCY STUDY. 
          THE GOAL OF THE STUDY IS TO ASSESS THE CURRENT STATE OF THE OVERHEAD DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO HARDEN, AUTOMATE SECTIONALIZE, TO ENHANCE LOAD SHED, CRITICAL LOAD ISOLATION AND COLD LOAD PICKUP CAPABILITIES DURING BOTH BLUE SKY DAYS AND, UH, SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS TO BRING EVERYBODY BACK UP TO SPEED. 
          SINCE WE, UH, LAST PROVIDED AN UPDATE, UH, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS A COMPREHENSIVE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PLAN. 
          AS YOU SEE THERE IN THE MIDDLE, UH, THIS PLAN WILL MERGE EXISTING, UH, RELIABILITY PROGRAMS SUCH AS CIRCUIT HARDENING, WILDFIRE MITIGATION, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, ET CETERA, WITH BEST PRACTICES IDENTIFIED IN BOTH THE UNDERGROUND AND NOW OVERHEAD HARDENING STUDY RESULTS. 
          UM, UH, AGAIN, AS BACKGROUND, AUSTIN ENERGY HAS APPROXIMATELY 12,000 MILES OF, OF DISTRIBUTION LINES. 
          7,000 OF IT IS ALREADY ABOUT 60% OF IT'S ALREADY UNDERGROUND, AND 5,000 MILES REMAINS OVERHEAD. 
          WE RECENTLY COMPLETED AN UNDERGROUNDING STUDY TO SEE WHAT IT, UH, WOULD COST TO UNDERGROUND, UH, THE REMAINING 5,000 MILES OF LINES, AND THE ESTIMATED COST WAS 50 BILLION WITH A B, UH, AND IT WOULD TAKE DECADES. 
          SO THE OVERHEAD, UH, STUDY, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING TODAY PROVIDES ALTERNATIVES TO MAKE OUR SYSTEM MORE RESILIENT, BUT FASTER AND A FRACTION OF THE COST TO UNDERGROUND. 
          NOW, BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO MICHAEL TO PRESENT THE STUDY, JUST A QUICK NOTE, UM, THE STUDY DID A, A DEEP, DEEP DIVE INTO CRITICAL PROTECTED INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT EQUIPMENT, LOCATIONS, CRITICAL LOADS, CIRCUIT CONFIGURATIONS, UH, CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS BY DEVICE PROTECTION SETTINGS, ET CETERA. 
          SO IT'S A LOT OF DETAIL A ABOUT OUR, OUR, OUR SYSTEM. 
          AND SO MUCH OF THE STUDY ITSELF, WHICH IS OVER 150 PAGES, GOES INTO DETAILS ABOUT THIS CRITICAL PROTECTED INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND AS SUCH, UH, WE, WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO MAKE PUBLIC THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. 
          THIS IS DUE TO CONCERNS THAT THIS INFORMATION FALL IN THE HANDS OF BAD ACTORS. 
          NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MICHAEL TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE OVERHEAD HARDENING STUDY. 
          MICHAEL. 
          THANKS DAVID. 
          YEAH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME. 
          MY NAME'S MICHAEL CODY. 
          UM, SO I WORK WITH 1898 AND CO. 
          WE'RE PART OF BURNS AND MCDONALD. 
          WE'RE THE CONSULTING ARM, LIKE DAVID SAID, BURNS AND MCDONALD. 
          UH, 1898 WAS THE YEAR THAT BURNS AND MCDONALD WAS FOUNDED. 
          SO WE'VE GOT ABOUT 600 CONSULTANTS NATIONALLY, UH, 50 OF WHOM CONTRIBUTED DIRECTLY TO THIS PARTICULAR STUDY. 
          SO AS WE'VE 
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BEEN SPEAKING THIS, THIS MORNING, I MEAN, RESILIENCY IS A THEME HITTING THE WHOLE NATION, BUT PARTICULARLY HERE IN TEXAS, UH, RESILIENCY IS, IS AN EMERGING THEME AND EMERGING TOPIC THAT UTILITIES ARE FOCUSING ON. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RECENT TEXAS EXPERIENCE, UH, WORKING ON RESILIENCY STUDIES, AND WE WERE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO, TO BRING SOME OF THOSE LESSONS LEARNED HERE TO AUSTIN. 
          SO, LIKE DAVID SAID, UH, THIS STUDY FOCUSED ON THE OVERHEAD DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 42% OF THIS SYSTEM, ABOUT 5,000 MILES. 
          IT WAS OVER A YEAR LONG STUDY THAT COMBINED REALLY DETAILED TECHNICAL ANALYSIS WITH ALSO HIGH LEVEL STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          AND IT INCLUDED THREE MAIN TASKS. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE THREE MAIN TASKS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. 
          WE HAVE THE AS IS STATE. 
          UM, SO ASSESSING THE CURRENT SYSTEM, WE HAVE FEEDER COORDINATION STUDIES, SO FEEDER LEVEL PROTECTION AND AUTOMATION. 
          AND THEN TASK THREE IS THE FUTURE STATE, UH, WHERE WE DEFINE A MORE RESILIENT FUTURE STATE, UM, THROUGH INTERVIEWS AND INDUSTRY BENCHMARKING. 
          ALRIGHT, SO FIRST, UM, STARTING WITH WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS THE AS IS STATE OF THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. 
          WE HAVE KIND OF THE FOUR MAIN AREAS OF THIS ANALYSIS. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, THE, AS IS STATE REALLY IS THE FOUNDATION. 
          EVERYTHING WE DO GOING FORWARD, WHETHER IT'S INVESTMENTS OR TECHNOLOGY, IT ALL HAS TO START WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO, FIRST IS, UH, STANDARDS COMPLIANCE. 
          SO WE LOOKED AT AUSTIN ENERGY'S CURRENT SYSTEM, HOW WELL IT ALIGNS WITH THEIR OWN INTERNAL, EXCUSE ME, SIR, JUST ONE SECOND. 
          UH, WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH A LIGHT OVER THERE, AND I BELIEVE THE ELECTRICIANS ARE HERE TO MAKE A QUICK REPAIR. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECESS FOR ABOUT 10 MINUTES OR SO TO LET, UM, FIX IT. 
          SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          WANNA DEAL WITH THIS, UH, VERY QUICKLY. 
          SO THE, UH, COMMITTEE WILL BE IN RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING AGAIN. 
          LET ME GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY UTILITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE BACK TO ORDER AT 10 11. 
          A, UH, QUORUM IS PRESENT. 
          I KNOW, UH, UH, SOME OF THE MEMBERS ARE, ARE DRIFTING BACK IN, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, AND, AND CONTINUE WITH, UH, PRESENTATION. 
          IF YOU WANNA JUST BACK UP A, A, A SLIDE OR, OR OR TWO SO WE CAN ALL KIND OF GET OUR BEARINGS AND, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, MOVE FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE, THE CREW THAT, UH, TOOK CARE OF THAT DANGLING LIGHT. 
          AWESOME. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO BACK IN AT REMINDER, WE'VE GOT THE THREE TASKS, AS IS FEEDER COORDINATION AND FUTURE STATE. 
          NOW GETTING INTO WHAT WE DID IN THE AS IS STATE, WE LOOKED AT THE STANDARDS. 
          HOW COMPLIANT IS AUSTIN ENERGY AND WHAT'S OUT THERE ON THE SYSTEM? CAPACITY ANALYSIS, HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY DO WE HAVE FOR PRESENT LOAD AND FUTURE LOAD LOAD SHED? UM, HOW WELL CAN AUSTIN ENERGY RESPOND TO AN ERCOT LEVEL DIRECTED EVENT? AND THEN DER HOSTING CAPACITY AS WELL. 
          SO GETTING RIGHT INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF ANALYSIS BEHIND THIS, UM, BUT WE'LL JUMP TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WHAT CAME OUT OF IT? PRIORITIZE, UH, REPLACEMENT OF LEGACY OR HIGH RISK INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO WE FOUND OVERALL AUSTIN ENERGY'S DISTRIBUTION EQUIPMENT IS HIGHLY COMPLIANT. 
          UH, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME AGING ASSETS, LIKE WITH ALL UTILITIES, BUT IT, IT JUST POINTS TO THE NEED FOR MORE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS, ASSESSMENTS, AND THEN EVENTUALLY REPLACEMENT PROGRAMS. WE DID FIND 14 SUBSTATIONS THAT WERE NEARING THEIR OPERATIONAL LIMITS, WHICH SHOULD BE TRACKED AND EVALUATED, MAYBE CLOSER. 
          UH, PLANNING AROUND THOSE 14 SUBSTATIONS AND THEN POTENTIAL UPGRADES DOWN THE LINE. 
          UH, WE FOUND OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND LOAD SHE FLEXIBILITY. 
          UM, AUSTIN ENERGY CAN CURRENTLY MEET, UH, THEIR PORTION OF THE ERCOT EMERGENCY LOAD, BUT ENHANCING THROUGH RECLOSERS AND SWITCHES COULD INCREASE THE LOAD SHED CAPABILITY AND THEN MINIMIZE IMPACT TO CUSTOMERS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE FOUND SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR DATA INTEGRATION AND CLEANUP ACROSS THE SYSTEMS OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO IMPROVE DER STANDARDS AND, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC GUIDEBOOK, AND THEN SMALL TWEAKS TO THE HO HOSTING CAPACITY METHODOLOGY. 
          ALL OF THESE ACTIONS TO HELP, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY PREPARE FOR THIS, FOR THEIR FUTURE STATE, UH, FUTURE CHALLENGES. 
          ALRIGHT, SO ONCE WE HAD KIND OF THIS, AS IN AS IS BASELINE, UH, WE ZOOMED IN TO PERFORM FEEDER COORDINATION STUDIES. 
          THESE ARE DETAILED INDIVIDUAL CIRCUIT STUDIES WHERE WE LOOKED AT PLACING MAINLINE RECLOSERS, UH, ON THE BACKBONE AND ALSO LATERAL RECLOSERS ON SOME OF THE BRANCHES. 
          THE GOAL HERE IS HOW CAN WE MAKE EACH FEEDER MORE RESILIENT AND BETTER SEGMENTED FOR FASTER RESPONSE? UH, ESSENTIALLY 
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WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING THE RIGHT DEVICES IN, IN THE RIGHT LOCATION ON INDIVIDUAL OVERHEAD FEEDERS. 
          AND AS A REMINDER HERE, WE'VE GOT RECLOSERS. 
          THEY ACT LIKE, UH, SMART CIRCUIT BREAKERS, BUT INSTEAD OF BEING OUT ON THE SUBSTATION, THEY'RE DOWNLINE ON THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. 
          SO THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY DETECT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE A BRANCH OR A TREE FALLS ON A LINE SHUT OFF. 
          AND, UH, THIS WILL NOT REQUIRE A CREW CREW MEMBER TO GO OUT THERE AND FIX IT. 
          SO MAINLINE RECLOSERS PROTECT KIND OF THE LARGE THREE PHASE TRUNK AND THEN LATERAL RECLOSERS, THE SMALLER BRANCHES, WHICH TOGETHER THEY ALL REDUCED, UH, THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS AFFECTED AND HELP INCREASE RESTORATION TIMES. 
          SO MAINLINE RECLOSERS, WE HAVE THIS POD METHODOLOGY. 
          WE, WE PUT THEM OUT THERE, AGAIN, BEYOND THE BREAKER, UM, TO FURTHER SEGMENT. 
          AND THESE PODS CAN KIND OF ACT LIKE MINI CIRCUITS. 
          AND WHEN THERE IS AN OUTAGE IN ONE OF THE OTHER PODS, THEY CAN THEN THROW OVER TO THE ADJACENT CIRCUIT, ASSUMING THAT THERE'S A STRONG TIE. 
          UM, AND FOR LATERAL RECLOSERS, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT PRIORITIZING BASED ON VEGETATION DENSITY, HISTORICAL OUTAGES, CUSTOMER COUNTS, LINE LENGTH AND LOADS. 
          SO WE DID PRIORITIZE THESE DEVICES WHEN WE PLACE THEM. 
          AND SO THE RESULTS OF THE DEVICE PLACEMENT, THIS IS TASK TWO. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT A DETAILED SET OF DEVICE PLACEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WE IDENTIFIED OVER 600 MAINLINE RECLOSERS AND OVER A THOUSAND LATERAL RECLOSERS, UH, WHICH GIVES AUSTIN ENERGY OPTIONS. 
          UH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, UM, NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED TO NECESSARILY DEPLOY ALL OF THESE DEVICES IMMEDIATELY, BUT AS BUDGETS AND TIME ACCOMMODATE, UM, THIS KIND OF FUTURE STATE OF, OF THESE DEVICES. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, THE OVERALL GOAL HERE IS TO REDUCE FAULT IMPACT, IMPROVE RESTORATION SPEED, AND THEN ENABLE GRID AUTOMATION. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD PRONG OF THIS STUDY, WE LOOKED AT THE FUTURE STATE. 
          SO OUR GOAL HERE WAS TO STEP BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT SPECIFIC INITIATIVES, UH, COULD HELP AUSTIN ENERGY GET CLOSER TO WHERE THEY WANT TO BE. 
          SO WE CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS FROM ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION. 
          WE LOOKED AT, UH, ENGINEERING, FIELD OPERATIONS, ASSET MANAGEMENT, ALL SORTS OF GROUPS WITHIN AUSTIN ENERGY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING, KIND OF WHAT IS ON THEIR WISHLIST FOR BIGGEST OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE HEARD ABOUT LIMITED AUTOMATION, RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS AND VEGETATION CHALLENGES. 
          AND SO THE OUTCOME HERE WAS 24 RESILIENCY INITIATIVES, AND WE GROUPED THEM INTO THESE FIVE, UH, MAJOR THEMES THAT YOU SEE ARE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE. 
          SO WE HAVE IN INFRASTRUCTURE RESILIENCE, HOW DO WE MODERNIZE STANDARDS, MATERIALS AND ASSETS. 
          WE HAVE DATA-DRIVEN OPERATIONS, SO LEVERAGING DATA BETTER TO MAKE MORE INFORMED MAINTENANCE DECISIONS OR VEGETATION MANAGEMENT DECISIONS. 
          GRID CONNECTIVITY, SO EXPANDING AUTOMATION MONITORING AND COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, EMERGENCY READINESS. 
          SO THIS IS THE PEOPLE SIDE OF IT. 
          IMPROVING COORDINATION TRAINING AND, AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. 
          AND THEN OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE, STRENGTHENING GOVERNANCE AND CROSS TEAM COLLABORATION. 
          SO THESE INITIATIVES, UM, WE, WE TRIED TO HIT KIND OF A WHOLE SWATH OF, OF ITEMS THAT, THAT WE THINK ARE CONDUCIVE OF A, OF A, OF A SUCCESSFUL RESILIENCY PLAN. 
          AND SO SOME OF THESE AUSTIN ENERGY, A LOT OF THESE AUSTIN ENERGY IS ALREADY DOING, BUT WE IDENTIFIED ACTIONS THAT WERE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT AUSTIN ENERGY IS CURRENTLY DOING, AND WE RANKED AND SCORED THEM APPROPRIATELY. 
          AND WE ALSO HAD MODERATE AND AGGRESSIVE VERSIONS OF THESE INCLUDED WITH TACTICAL ACTIONS THAT AUSTIN ENERGY CAN TAKE. 
          ALRIGHT, SO AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE FOUND THAT AUSTIN ENERGY HAS A REALLY STRONG FOUNDATION, ESPECIALLY IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND INCIDENT RESPONSE. 
          BUT TO REACH THIS FUTURE STATE, UH, THIS REALLY INDUSTRY LEADING RESILIENT GRID, WE THINK YOU NEED KIND OF A, A STEP CHANGE, WHICH AUSTIN ENERGY, WE THINK WOULD CO WOULD TAKE A COORDINATED ENTERPRISE WIDE ACTION. 
          SO WE RECOMMEND THIS PHASED APPROACH THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, KIND OF AT THE TOP HERE. 
          THERE ARE NEAR TERM INITIATIVES THAT CAN START RIGHT AWAY DELIVERING EARLY IMPACT WHILE PREPARING THE ORGANIZATION FOR A LONGER TRANSFORMATION. 
          AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE IN THE GREEN, SIMULTANEOUSLY, AUSTIN ENERGY CAN BE BUILDING A LONG TERM COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM WITH THINGS LIKE DEDICATED LEADERSHIP, CROSS DEPARTMENT COORDINATION, GOVERNANCE, AND TRACKING. 
          UH, SO WE THINK THIS PARALLEL APPROACH, KIND OF COMBINING THE NEAR TERM WITH THE LONG TERM WILL ENABLE, UH, A MORE COORDINATED, SUSTAINABLE, AND EFFECTIVE RESILIENCY PROGRAM OVER TIME. 
          UM, SO YEAH, THANKS AGAIN TO AUSTIN ENERGY AND, AND TO THEIR TEAM FOR ALL THE TIME THAT IT TOOK, UH, FOR THIS STUDY. 
          WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND I'LL PASS IT. 
          UH, BACK TO DAVID. 
          THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 
          UH, 1898 DID A WONDERFUL JOB AS FAR AS, UM, THE, THE DEPTH AND 
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JUST HOW THOROUGH THE, THE STUDY IS. 
          UM, WITH THAT, UM, I KNOW YOU'RE SEEING THE SLIDE BEFORE, BUT I JUST WANNA KIND OF BRING IT ALL BACK AGAIN. 
          UH, WE NOW HAVE ALL THREE LEGS OF THE STOOL. 
          SO WE HAVE EXISTING RELIABILITY PROGRAMS, UNDERGROUND FEASIBILITY STUDY, AND NOW THE OVERHEAD RESILIENCY STUDY. 
          UH, AND THROUGH ALL THOSE, UH, AND, AND COMBINED WITH BEST PRACTICE, IT, IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PLAN FOR AUSTIN. 
          UH, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE'VE STARTED DRAFTING THE PLAN AND THE WORK FROM 1898 HAS SET THE TABLE SO THAT WE CAN QUICKLY COMPARE UNDERGROUND VERSUS OVERHEAD OPTIONS, AS WELL AS MODERATE VERSUS AGGRESSIVE APPROACHES FOR EACH FEEDER ON OUR SYSTEM. 
          THIS WILL HELP US TO EVALUATE THE BEST OVERALL SOLUTIONS TO IMPROVE RELIABILITY RESILIENCY, WHILE KEEPING OUR RATES LOW. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE OVERHEAD STUDY HIGHLIGHTS BEST PRACTICES AND CONNECTING DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES AND MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UH, INCREASE OUR HOSTING CAPACITY. 
          AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, UH, WE CONTINUE TO ANALYZE THE RESULTS OF THE UNDERGROUNDING STUDY WE'VE RECEIVED AND ARE REVIEWING THE RESULTS OF THE OVERHEAD STUDY PRESENTED TODAY. 
          UH, AND WE ARE, ARE, HAVE STARTED WRITING THE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PLAN. 
          WE WILL BE ENGAGING STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMING MONTHS, UH, TO INFORM BOTH NEAR AND LONG TERM PRIORITIES, UH, IN THE PLAN. 
          AND WE'LL BE BACK LATER THIS YEAR TO PRESENT THE COMPREHENSIVE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PLAN, A LIVING PLAN THAT WILL GUIDE US FOR THE NEXT 10 PLUS YEARS TOWARDS A MORE ROBUST AND RESILIENT FUTURE. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UH, COUNCIL MAYOR COMES COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          LEE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, COMING BACK AROUND ON THIS. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO START BY FOLLOWING UP ON A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED OFFLINE SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE. 
          UM, SO I AM WONDERING, UM, FOR THE AREAS THAT THE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, LIKE THE LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT PRIORITIZED FOR UNDERGROUNDING, UM, WILL BE, WILL WE BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, HOTSPOTS THAT WEREN'T FINANCIALLY, AREN'T FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR UNDERGROUNDING, KIND OF, BUT OUR, THEY STILL CAUGHT ATTENTION, IT'S JUST NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. 
          AND THEN ARE, WILL THERE BE ANY SORT OF RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ALTERNATE APPROACH THAT COULD RESOLVE THE ISSUES THAT'S MORE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE THAN UNDERGROUNDING? WHO WOULD I LOOK TO FOR THAT CONVERSATION IF IT'S NOT YOU? I'M NOT SURE. 
          UH, YES. 
          UH, I, I CAN, UH, EITHER, UH, I CAN SPEAK TO IT HERE AND THEN ALSO OFFLINE AS WELL. 
          UM, FROM THE STANDPOINT IS 1898 DID A GREAT JOB AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS TAKING THE, WHILE THEY WERE DONE INDEPENDENTLY, UM, WE, WE, THEY'VE SET IT UP SUCH THAT WE LITERALLY CAN TAKE THE UNDERGROUND EXAMPLE FEEDER BY FEEDER, SECTION BY SECTION WITH AN ESTIMATED COST, AND THEN THEY'VE NOW GIVEN US AN ALTERNATIVE OVERHEAD SOLUTION AGAIN, UM, THE, THE, WE CAN, WE HAVEN'T, UH, IT DID INCLUDE ALL THE COSTS, BUT IT TALKED ABOUT THE DEVICES, THE PLACEMENT, AND WE VERY QUICKLY CAN COME UP WITH A COST. 
          AND SO EVEN PLACES WHERE UNDERGROUNDING, UH, MAY, MAY MAKE SENSE, WE WANT TO ALSO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, BEST USE OF, OF, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OF RESOURCES YEAH. 
          AND SO FORTH. 
          YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, FOR ECONOMICS PURPOSES AND GET THE BEST OF OUR PRODUCT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS TOO, IS THE OVERHEAD SOLUTIONS IN MANY CASES CAN BE DEPLOYED FASTER MM-HMM . 
          AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE CAN, UH, IMPROVE THE SYSTEM MUCH FASTER OPPOSED TO JUST DOING, YOU KNOW, SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN ONE AREA. 
          AND THEN WE LOOK UP 10 YEARS FROM NOW AND WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. 
          SO, UH, THEY'VE REALLY SET US UP FOR SUCCESS, ALMOST LIKE A LA CARTE THAT WE CAN KIND OF, UH, PICK AND EVALUATE. 
          SO, AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT OFFLINE AS WELL. 
          AND YOU ANTICIPATED MY NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS, UM, WHERE IT CAN BE ADDRESSED MORE QUICKLY, UH, AND IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR UNDERGROUNDING MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, AMY, WILL I HAVE ACCESS TO THE FULL REPORT SO I CAN SKIM THROUGH SOME OF THE, WHAT I HEARD HERE? I THINK, I THINK WE CAN MEET OFF, YEAH, WE CAN MEET OFFLINE TO, TO, UM, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          UM, I'LL GET ON THE SCHEDULE. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER GENERAL QUESTIONS. 
          UM, WE'VE TALKED A LOT TODAY ABOUT THE IMPACT OF WEATHER ON POWER OUTAGES. 
          UM, I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN, BOTH RECENTLY AND OVER THE YEARS, QUITE A FEW CARS CRASHED INTO, UM, POLES ON THE ARTER ARTERIES THAT GO THROUGH MY DISTRICT. 
          UM, ONE WAS VERY RECENTLY ON ANDERSON MILL ROAD PROBLEM AREA FOR CARS HOPPING THE CURB AND GOING THROUGH, UM, HOLMES WALLS AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR TIME IT CRASHED INTO A, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF IT, BUT NOT YOUR LOWEST LEVEL OF POWER LINE, BUT ONE THAT IMPACTED VERY BROADLY. 
          AND SO I AM WONDERING IF IN YOUR ANALYSIS YOU'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED, UM, THE IMPACT OF ACCIDENTS ON POWER RELIABILITY, OR IT'S NOT PART OF WHAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT AS A FACTOR. 
          THE, IT WAS NOT PART OF THIS STUDY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE CARS TO BE OFF THE, THE ROAD. 
          UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID IS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY SITUATION WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S, UH, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO PUT A POLE IN THAT LOCATION TO SERVE A CUSTOMER, BUT THERE, THERE MAY 
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BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ELSEWHERE TO, UM, MOVE POLES OVER AND SO FORTH. 
          BUT I KNOW WHEN OUR DESIGN TEAM GOES OUT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE BEST OVERALL SOLUTION, UM, CONSIDERING ALL FACTORS. 
          UM, I WAS HOPING YEAH, GO AHEAD, STUART. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, LET ME JUST CHIME IN THERE TOO, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WORK THAT'S UNDERWAY WITH THIS STUDY AND, UM, MICHAEL MENTIONED SEXUALIZATION AND RECLOSERS, AND SO WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCE IN WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A CAR HITTING A POLE THAT'S HITTING A MAIN LINE, AND YOU HAVE THIS WHOLE, THE WHOLE CIRCUIT GOING OFFLINE, YOU KNOW, 3000 CUSTOMERS, 2,500 CUSTOMERS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THE MORE WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF SEXUALIZATION THROUGH RECLOSERS, AND WE CAN REROUTE POWER, WE CAN HAVE OUR SYSTEM RESPOND IN SUCH A WAY WHERE THE SMALLEST NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS WHERE YOU CAN SEGMENT THAT FEEDER UP INTO, INTO SECTIONS THIRDS OR EVEN SMALLER TO WHERE YOU HAVE FEWER CUSTOMERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY IMPACTED BY THAT. 
          SO WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL FOR OUR CAR GOING OFF THE ROAD, BUT WE CAN CONTROL FOR HOW POWER IS GETTING REROUTED AND HOW WE HAVE THE FEWEST NUMBERS OF CUSTOMERS IMPACTED SO THAT WHOLE CIRCUIT ISN'T OFFLINE DURING, DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME WHILE THAT POLL'S BEING REPLACED. 
          THAT'S A GREAT EXPLANATION OF LIKE HOW YOU CAN REDUCE THE IMPACT ON PEOPLE. 
          UM, LOOKING ALSO AT THAT IMPORTANCE OF PREVENTING THE OUTAGE TO BEGIN WITH. 
          UM, SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THE, THE AREAS THAT I AM THINKING OF HAVE ALSO BEEN A PART OF CONVERSATION, UH, BETWEEN MY OFFICE AND TPW, AND ALSO Y'ALL HAVE HEARD WAY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT FROM THE DIOCESE ALREADY. 
          UM, AND I'M WONDERING IF I REMEMBER SEEING PREVIOUS SUMMARIES OF WHY POWER OUTAGES ARE HAPPENING PERHAPS IN OFFLINE MEETINGS. 
          UM, AND I AM WONDERING IF WE WANNA PUT HEADS TOGETHER ACROSS THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE PERHAPS WHEN BOTH PEDESTRIAN, WHEN PEDESTRIAN BIKE, UM, DRIVER AND HOMEOWNER SAFETY ARE ALL AT PLAY, AND ON TOP OF IT, WE ARE POTENTIALLY CAUSING THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, MORE OUTAGES THAN MIGHT BE EXPECTED IN THAT AREA, COULD HELP WITH SORT OF JUST ANOTHER FACTOR FOR PRIORITIZING THE UNDERLYING ISSUE. 
          I KEEP LOOKING AT UACM ROGERS, I'M SURE YOU'RE LISTENING AND, AND I CAN, I CAN GIVE YOU THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL NEED TO FOLLOW UP ABOUT, BUT I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE DO COLLABORATE WITH THE VISION ZERO OFFICE AND MM-HMM . 
          UH, TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS ALREADY. 
          SO IF THEY SEE ISSUES WHERE WE'RE AUSTIN ENERGY HAS ANY KIND OF IMPACTS, IF IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF WE ARE SEEING IMPACTS, SIMILARLY, KIND OF TO YOUR EXAMPLE, IF, IF THERE'S A ROAD CONFIGURATION OR SOMETHING, A LOT OF THE TIME WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH THEM ABOUT, UM, LIGHTING, STREET LIGHTING BECAUSE THEY MIGHT SEE SOMETHING AT NIGHT. 
          THAT'S, SO THERE IS THAT COLLABORATION AND, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO KIND OF PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL SHARE WITH BOTH OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS THE MAPS OF THE AREAS WHERE I'VE SEEN REPEATEDLY OVER THE YEARS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, I ASKED ABOUT WILDFIRE RISK IN THE BA COUNTY'S CANYON AND PRESERVE IN THE AREAS WHERE, UM, AUSTIN ENERGY AND PEC BOTH HAVE LINES RUNNING, INCLUDING SOME SHARED POLES MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND I THINK YOU WERE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT LINE OF QUESTION FROM YES. 
          UH, YOU'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY THAT ONE POLE WHERE WE'RE ON THE SAME STRUCTURE, IS THAT, OH, YEAH, THERE WERE TWO LINES THAT GO THAT WAY. 
          AND THE, THE LARGER QUESTION IS, UM, I KNOW YOU HAD LOOKED AT FIRE RISK, WILDFIRE RISK, BUT THEN AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT AREA THAT'S ALONG OLD SPICEWOOD SPRINGS ROAD, THERE ARE ISSUES THAT ARISE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE AUSTIN ENERGY AND PEC SHARING RESOURCES THERE IN SOME CASES. 
          SO I AM WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY UPDATES TO LIKE, HOW YOU ARE APPROACHING THAT AREA? YEAH, SO, UH, WELL, UH, TWO PIECES OF THAT FIRST ONE IS FROM THE WILDFIRE. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED WITH THE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCE PLAN. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, ONGOING EFFORTS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE, UH, GREAT EFFORTS WITHIN, WITHIN ALL ENERGY, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO COME TOGETHER SO THAT WE, WHEN WE VISIT A A PORTION OF TOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO OVERHEAD HARDENING AND THEN, OH WAIT, WE GOTTA COME BACK AND DO WILDFIRE. 
          THAT'S NOT GOOD USE OF FUNDS. 
          AND SO PART OF THAT IS, UM, UH, WHILE THERE IS A STANDALONE WILDFIRE, UH, PLAN, UH, IT IS, IT WILL BE REFERENCED IN, UH, BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS TO COME TOGETHER IN DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PLAN, SO THAT WE GO OUT THERE, WE DO WORK IN AN AREA ONCE, MAKE THE NEEDED UPGRADES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BEST OVERALL UP, YOU KNOW, UPGRADES FOR THE, THE RISKS THAT WE IDENTIFY. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE, TO THE NEXT AREA. 
          UH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE POLLS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THERE ARE A FEW STRUCTURES JUST BECAUSE OF GEOGRAPHICALLY WHERE THEY, THEY SIT THAT THEY DO CROSS AND, AND THEY'RE HIGHLY, HIGHLY, UM, UM, DENOTED ON THE POLE, UH, JUST FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT OF, OF WHO'S ON BOTTOM, WHO'S ON TOP, UM, BEING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PC THEY HAVE, UM, UH, SIMILAR VOLTAGES TO US, BUT, UM, THEY MAY EVEN HAVE A DIFFERENT VOLTAGE AS WELL. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS WE GOTTA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, SAFETY FIRST, BUT THERE ARE A FEW STRUCTURES LIKE THAT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN SEPARATE THOSE. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT TODAY, BUT WE ARE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE INCORPORATING THOSE CONCERNS AND ALSO DEFINITELY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THEM AGAIN, AND I'LL PROVIDE 
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BOTH OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS WITH THE MAPS OF THE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT I CAN THINK OF, AND I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MR. DUCH? COUNCIL MEMBER UCHIN CHAIR? UH, I JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ABOUT THE, UH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THE 24 ACTIONABLE ITEMS, UM, WITHOUT GETTING THE FULL REPORT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT FULL REPORT THAT WE JUST LOOK AT THE WHOLE, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE TIMELINE ON GETTING THE UPDATE TO DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY. 
          ARE YOU THINKING LIKE THAT'S DECEMBER OR NOVEMBER? UH, WE, WE, UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S OFFICIALLY ON THE SCHEDULE YET, BUT IT WOULD BE THIS CALENDAR YEAR WE'RE TARGETING, UH, APPROXIMATELY NOVEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE ITEMS YOU MENTIONED, ONE OF THE CATEGORIES WAS LEARNING FROM, UM, EMERGENCY EVENTS AND RESPONDING TO THEM AND EMERGENCY READINESS. 
          I KNOW ONE THING I'VE DISCUSSED WITH IN THE WAKE OF THE MICROBURST STORM WITH INTERIM DIRECTOR RILEY, IS, UM, POLE HARDENING, AND HE MENTIONED AND, AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON AND WHAT THEY, AND THE WORK THEY'VE DONE IN TERMS OF POLE HARDENING TO PREPARE FOR NOT JUST WIND, BUT ALSO WILDFIRES, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL JUST TOUCHED ON. 
          UM, I'M CURIOUS TO LEVEL THAT YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY YET TO GO INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THIS REPORT, OR IF THAT'S COMING LATER THIS YEAR IN NOVEMBER, WHEN YOU ARE GONNA REPORT BACK THIS, UH, THIS REPORT DOES TOUCH IN ON, UM, THE, AS FAR AS POLE HARDENING, NOT SPECIFICALLY ON, ON WILDFIRE, UM, THAT FEEDS INTO, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PROGRAM WILL BRING IT TOGETHER. 
          BUT WE HAVE AN, WE HAVE AN ONGOING PROGRAM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, UH, MICHAEL HAD REFERENCED, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE WORKS NOW WHERE WE'RE DOING, UH, POLE INSPECTIONS. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING OUT THERE AND, UM, IT USED TO BE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A POLE WAS DEEMED, YOU KNOW, BAD, WELL, WE JUST GO REPLACE IT. 
          UM, TECHNOLOGY'S APPROVED. 
          WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND, AND I CALL IT TRUSTING THE POLE OR SO FORTH IN THE WEAK SPOTS AND CAN GET SIGNI SIGNIFICANT MORE LIFE OUT OF IT. 
          I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE EVALUATING FROM, UM, THE MICROBURST TO SEE, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE IS EVERYONE THAT WAS TRUST, UH, HELD UP DURING, DURING THE, YOU KNOW, STORMS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND, UH, ASSETS. 
          AND THAT CAN BE DONE VERY QUICKLY AND COST EFFECTIVELY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, UM, UH, IT WAS STATED EARLIER TODAY ABOUT TAKING HALF A DAY TO CHANGE OUT A POLE AND ALL THE COST AND GETTING ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN EVERYBODY'S BACKYARDS AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, UH, WE, I THINK WE DID 3000 POLES, UH, LAST YEAR, 8,000 THIS YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH, YOU KNOW, 8,000 A YEAR. 
          UH, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY UNDERWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT'S REPLACING THE POLES WITHOUT THE NON-PAR HOLES. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? UNTIL YOU'RE, THAT THAT IS, THAT IS INSPECTING 'EM, UM, TOP TO BOTTOM? UM, IT IS TRUSTING 'EM, UH, WHERE THAT CAN, UM, EXTEND THE LIFE OF IT. 
          AND THEN IN SOME CASES, I THINK ABOUT 8% OR SOMETHING THAT ARE INSPECTED HAS BEEN COMING BACK TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT VENN DIAGRAM THAT YOU WERE SHOWING WITH UNDERGROUNDING AND THE HARDENING AND THE EXISTING RELIABILITY PROGRAMS. WHAT ARE OUR EXISTING RELIABILITY PROGRAMS? KIND OF WHAT, WHAT GOES IN IN, IN THAT CIRCLE? SO WE HAVE WILDFIRE MITIGATION, WE HAVE, UM, OVERHEAD, UH, WELL, IT'S LIKE IT'S CIRCUIT HARDENING, BUT IT'S OVERHEAD HARDENING, UH, THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, FROM A STANDPOINT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE REMOVING, UM, OPEN WIRE SECONDARY, UH, WE HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, OF COURSE THE POLL, THE POLE INSPECTIONS THAT I, THAT I SPOKE TO VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, WE, WE ALSO UNDERPERFORMING CIRCUITS THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, POLES, BUT, UM, WE'LL GO OUT AND DO COORDINATION STUDIES. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND, UH, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING COORDINATES. 
          I WILL SAY IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THE STUDY IS THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STUDY TO GIVE US THAT UPPER HAND. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE SECTIONALIZING, UM, PORTION AND, AND, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THE SETTINGS ALREADY READY TO GO. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE ABLE TO DEPLOY FASTER, BUT WHEN I SAY PROGRAMS, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT WE WERE FINDING THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DISPARATE AND WE NEED TO BRING IT TOGETHER INTO A COMPREHENSIVE RESILIENCY PLANS. 
          WE'RE ALL AGAINST THE SAME NORTH STAR. 
          GREAT. 
          AND THAT PLAN SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TOWARD THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          BASICALLY, YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THOSE THREE COMPONENTS, UH, UH, INTO A, A RESILIENCY STUDY THAT WILL BE PRESENTED, I GUESS LATER THIS YEAR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          GREAT. 
          AND WILL THAT HAVE COSTS ASSOCIATED ALSO WITH THE, UH, OVERHEAD HARDENING STUDY PORTION OF IT? A ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE, WE'VE ALREADY INCLUDED MONEY, UH, UH, IN THE, IN THE BUDGET THAT Y'ALL WILL BE REVIEWING. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF FORECAST OUT FOR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A ONE YEAR, BUT ULTIMATELY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, UM, AS WE INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, ONE IS WE'RE NOT STOPPING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, EVEN WHILE WE'RE RIDING THE DISTRIBUTION RESILIENCY PLAN, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTIVELY DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE SPOKE ABOUT. 
          UM, BUT WE WANNA DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S, UH, APPROXIMATELY 10, $10 MILLION IN THERE TO KIND OF GET GOING FOR, UH, 26 AND, AND, AND DO MORE. 
          WE THINK ON THE FRONT END IT'S GONNA BE MORE ENGINEERING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP THE JOBS AND SO FORTH TO GO WORK. 
          SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE LIGHTER ON THE FRONT END, 
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BUT, UH, IT DOES, IT DOES GROW TO APPROXIMATELY, I THINK, LIKE 20 MILLION A YEAR, UM, AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OUT. 
          AND THEN AS WE GET INTO IT, WE MAY FIND THAT THINGS ARE MORE ECONOMICAL THAN WE THOUGHT, AND WE'RE, IT'S MOVING FASTER, OR WE MAY FIND THAT IT'S, IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE OR IT MAKES SENSE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, UNDERGROUND SOMEWHERE. 
          UH, AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY I USE THE TERM LIVING PLAN. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPER FUNDING FOR IT. 
          GOT IT. 
          GOT, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS. 
          UH, AND THEN FINALLY ON, I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED, UH, A POSSIBLE LIKE A PILOT PROGRAM FOR THE UNDERGROUNDING. 
          UH, WOULD THAT BE A PART OF THE, UH, RESILIENCE, UH, UH, STUDY THAT'S COMING OUT IN, IN 25? THAT, THAT ABSOLUTELY WILL BE A CONSIDERATION? UM, AND AGAIN, AS IT'S JUST LOOKING AT IS WHAT, WHAT WOULD IT COST UNDERGROUND AND WHAT IS THE BENEFIT? IS THERE AN OVERHEAD ALTERNATIVE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR, YOU KNOW, FRACTION OF COST OR NO, REALLY NEEDS TO BE UNDERGROUND? AND SO, UM, FROM THAT, UH, IT WILL BE LITERALLY SECTION BY SECTION LOOKING AT, SO WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, UH, UP TO INCLUDING, UM, UH, PILOTS. 
          GREAT. 
          IT, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO AT AT LEAST GET A, A PRELIMINARY SENSE OF WHERE IT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO DO SOME KIND OF UNDERGROUNDING, UH, PILOT AND, AND GET SOME KIND OF SENSE OF THE COST AND, AND, AND SCOPE AND WHATNOT AS, AS PART OF THE STUDY. 
          UH, YES, SIR. 
          WELL, THANK YOU, UH, UH, VERY MUCH WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEDICINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, YOUR QUESTION INSPIRED A QUESTION FOR ME. 
          UM, UH, NO STRANGER TO COMPLAINTS ABOUT OVERHEAD, UM, EQUIPMENT APPARATUS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE MINE, UM, WHERE IT'S JUST SO DISTINCT, ALL THE BAZILLIONS OF WIRES AND POLES EVERYWHERE ON A REALLY SMALL STREET. 
          AND SO JUST SORT OF CURIOUS ABOUT, THAT'S PURELY AESTHETIC. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE PRIORITIZATION THAT SOMETHING'S COME, YOU KNOW, FUNCTION PROBABLY COMES BEFORE AESTHETICS, BUT JUST WHEN WE DO THINK ABOUT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, CATEGORIZE THAT IN MY HEAD. 
          CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE SUMMARIZATION OF LIKE, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE? A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SPACES ADJACENT TO THE HIGHWAY, LIKE WHERE DOES IT MAKE SENSE? SO ON THE UNDERGROUNDING STUDY, THERE'S 33 SECTIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WHERE THE BENEFITS, UH, UH, MAY OUTWEIGH THE COST MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND THOSE THREE, THREE BENEFITS WERE NOT WHERE I THINK WHERE MOST PEOPLE WOULD THINK, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE BACKYARDS AND IN NEIGHBORHOODS SO FORTH. 
          UH, IT WAS ALONG THE MAIN LINES, RIGHT? COMING RIGHT OUTTA THE SUBSTATION BECAUSE THE, UH, THE MOST CUSTOMERS ARE IMPACTED IN THAT WAY POSITIVELY MM-HMM . 
          UH, BY, BY DOING SO. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT WAS, UM, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SAW THERE. 
          THAT BEING SAID IS, I, I REALLY DO THINK IS, UH, EVERY, EVERY SITUATION, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          AND WOULD YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT WHEN YOU DO, WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CHALLENGES BECOME IS, UM, PHYSICALLY, UM, CONVERTING IT WHERE ALL THE HOUSES ARE FED OVERHEAD TO UNDERGROUND NOW OF A SUDDEN AS YOU HAVE TO START ADDRESSING, UM, THE HOUSE AND HOW IT'S TAKING SERVICE TO THE HOUSE MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE COSTS ARE SO HIGH. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, UH, THAT BEING SAID IS IN NO WAY ARE WE CLOSING THE DOOR ON THAT. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, IS, IS LITERALLY HAVE SIDE, SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ON, YOU KNOW, ON PARITY, UM, UH, OR THE BENEFITS JUST DRASTICALLY OUTWEIGH. 
          I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE SO RELATIVE, LIKE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT EVERYBODY'S, WHAT MAKES SENSE ISN'T THE SAME, OBVIOUSLY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, AND TO MY POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MY CON MY CONCERNS BEING PURELY AESTHETIC ON 13TH, BUT ON 12TH, WHERE, YOU KNOW, EXPOSED POWER LINES THAT ARE DROOPING AND DRAPING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, CURTAINS. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S A DETERRENT FOR BUSINESS, FOR COMMERCE. 
          AND SO GIVEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING 11TH AND 12TH STREET CAPS AND REDEVELOPMENT ON 12TH STREET SOMETIME IN THE, IN THIS DECADE, I HOPE, UH, THE WORK BEING DONE IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT IN GENERAL, INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, POINTING TOWARDS 7, 8, 7 0 2 IN GENERAL, ALL THE 12TH STREET HAS POWER LINES THAT ARE UGLY AND OUT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITH CAPS AND STITCHES, POTENTIALLY, I WONDER HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR CONSTRUCTION CAP IN THE HIGHWAY AND POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION VARYING POWER LINES. 
          LIKE HOW DO THOSE SYSTEMS NOT DUPLICATE ONE ANOTHER AND GET PLANNED, UM, ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER? SO AS FAR AS CAP AND STITCH, I MEAN, UH, WE'RE VERY EARLY ON ON THE, FROM A, YOU KNOW, A DESIGN STANDPOINT. 
          UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT APPROACHES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER UNDERGROUND AND OVERHEAD. 
          UM, AND IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN ENGINEERING CHALLENGE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING LINES ESSENTIALLY IN A, IN A, IN A BRIDGE. 
          UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TODAY, BUT IT, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS AS THINGS GET MORE AND MORE DENSE, SOMETIMES YOU'RE FORCED TO GO UNDERGROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST 'CAUSE YOU JUST PHYSICALLY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE THE ROOM FOR IT. 
          SO THAT HAS TO BE A CONSIDERATION AS WELL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD EXAMPLE IS ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL DOWNTOWN IS UNDERGROUND. 
          IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHEER AMOUNT, UM, OF WIRES IT WOULD 
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TAKE TO SERVE THAT AREA, SO MM-HMM . 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S A CONSIDERATION AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO BECOME MORE AND MORE DENSE AS A, AS A CITY. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 
          AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL CONT CONTINUE TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE NORTHEAST PLANNING DISTRICT, A LOT OF THAT DISTRICT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. 
          UM, SO IT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE RETROFIT THE WHOLE CITY FOR THE, YOU KNOW, COST OF 1700 BAZILLION DOLLARS OR, YOU KNOW, START FRESH TO SOME DEGREE. 
          AND I THINK IN A LOT OF WAYS, WE'RE STARTING FRESH WITH SOME OF THE AREAS IN THE NORTHEAST PLANNING DISTRICT, SO MAYBE JUST STARTING THE PROJECT WITH ANTICIPATING THAT WILL START UNDERGROUND. 
          I JUST WONDER IF THAT'S THE KIND OF PROTOCOL THAT WE CAN APPROACH FOR PERPETUITY. 
          THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO UNDERGROUND IS FRESH AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE SAYING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          START WITH A, A BLANK SLATE. 
          AND WHEN YOU DO CONVERSIONS, YOU CAN'T JUST CONVERT ONE HOUSE, RIGHT. 
          OR ONE PROPERTY. 
          YOU REALLY GOTTA DO THE WHOLE STREET, UM, TO MAKE THE ECONOMICS, UH, EVEN GET, MAYBE EVEN GET CLOSE. 
          AND EVEN THEN IT'S STILL, UH, VASTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN, UH, THAN OVERHEAD. 
          BUT, UH, UH, THAT BEING SAID IS, UH, IF, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO START FRESH ANYWHERE, UM, THAT, THAT CAN DEFINITELY BE ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS. 
          A LOT OF UNDERGROUND, UH, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS AND SO FORTH, THEY TAKE THAT APPROACH BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE STARTING WITH, YOU KNOW, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, BLANK SLATE. 
          I DON'T THINK A LOT OF US UP HERE CAN SAY THAT I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER FUENTES AND I HAVE A LOT OF START FRESH, UM, LAND IN OUR DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO YEAH. 
          SOMETHING FOR US TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING TO D ONE AND TWO. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR THE REPORT. 
          LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT YEAR END, UH, REPORT THAT BRINGS, UH, EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE BRIEFING ON AUSTIN ENERGY'S WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM, BUT WE ARE AN HOUR AND 45, ALMOST 45 MINUTES INTO THIS. 
          WE HAVE THE WORK SESSION, AND THEN WE HAVE AUDIT AND FINANCE. 
          AND UNLESS THERE'S, UH, OBJECTION, I WOULD SUGGEST POSTPONING THE WEATHERIZATION TO THE NEXT, UH, A-E-U-O-C MEETING SO WE CAN GET ON WITH WHAT MAY BE A A, A LONGER MEETING, UH, TODAY. 
          UH, SEEING NO OBJECTION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE THAT ITEM UNTIL, UH, THE NEXT, UH, MEETING. 
          UM, WE WILL GO 
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AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, IDENTIFY ITEMS TO DISCUSS AT, UH, FUTURE MEETINGS. 
          UH, AGAIN, I THINK WEATHERIZATION WILL BE   AND, AND, UH, AND, BUT AGAIN, HAPPY TO, TO TAKE SUGGESTIONS AND, AND JUST, UH, UH, LET US KNOW, UH, YOUR, UH, THOUGHTS. 
          AND, UH, THEN OF COURSE, LASTLY, UH, THEY ON OUR AGENDA ARE THE PREVIOUS DISTRIBUTED MEMOS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UH, BETWEEN THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, UH, NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN, THAT'S JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES FOR COUNCIL AND FOR THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. 
          UH, AND WITH NO FURTHER, UH, WORK BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN AT, UH, 10 42 AND I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE MAYOR.
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