Aug 05, 2025 Urban Transportation

TO OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FOR OUR PREVIOUS MEETING ON JULY 1ST.

WELL, WE CAN, UH, ALWAYS COME BACK TO THAT IF WE NEED TO.

UM, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO TESTIFY ON AN AGENDA ITEM OR, UH, TESTIFY ON SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.

THEN WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ON

[1. Approve the minutes of the Urban Transportation Commission REGULAR MEETING on July 1, 2025.]

UM, THIS SHOULD BE IN EVERYONE'S PACKET.

I'LL GIVE EVERYONE A SECOND TO READ IT.

I CAN, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

UH, THANK YOU CHAIR SUMMERS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE, THAT IS UNANIMOUS ON A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.

ON TO OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM.

WE'LL NOW MOVE

[2. Discussion on the Cap Metro Bike Share Expansion. ]

THESE, OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. UH, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON CAT METRO BIKE SHARE AND EXPANSION.

UM, SO WELCOME, UH, MICHAEL KIMBRO AND JACOB BARRETT WITH TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.

AND I THINK WE HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON WHO'S, UH, WELCOME TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

YES, THIS IS JD SIMPSON WITH CAT METRO.

I'M THE, UH, CAT METRO BIKE PROGRAM MANAGER.

ALRIGHT, MAKE SURE THIS IS ON.

UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING US, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME PRESENT ON BIKE SHARE AND BIKE SHARE EXPANSION.

UH, AS, AS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS MIKE KIMBRO.

I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR SHARED MOBILITY SERVICES WITH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORK WORKS, JOINED BY JD SIMPSON WITH CAT METRO AND JACOB BARRETT, ALSO WITH, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, THE AGENDA FOR TODAY, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF TAKE THIS, UH, IN THREE PARTS.

UH, FIRST I'LL COVER A LITTLE BIT OF THE BIKE SHARE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND CAP METRO.

UH, DO A BRIEF CURRENT SYSTEM OVERVIEW.

UH, JD WILL JUMP IN TO TALK ABOUT RIDERSHIP AND AN AUGUST FAIR ADJUSTMENT THAT WE JUST MADE, AND JACOB WILL BACK CLEAN UP AND TALK ABOUT EXPANSION AND SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.

AND THEN WE'LL GET TO NEXT STEPS AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

FIRST OFF, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE BIKE SHARE PARTNERSHIP.

UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, THE CITY ENTERED A THREE YEAR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH CAP METRO.

UM, BOTH PARTIES WILL CONTRIBUTE FINANCIALLY TO THE SYSTEM.

UM, BOTH PARTIES WILL CREATE MONTHLY AND ANNUAL REPORTS ON THE PROGRESS OF THE SYSTEM.

UH, FOR CAP METRO'S PART, THEY WILL ENSURE GRANT FUNDED ACTIVITIES, MEET THE TERMS OF THIRD PARTY AGREEMENTS, UH, CONDUCT BRANDING, MARKETING AND ADVERTISING, MANAGE ALL OF THE BIKE SHARE VENDOR CONTRACTS, UH, SOFTWARE AND ASSOCIATED AGREEMENTS, AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE AND PLANNING.

UH, FOR THE CITY SIDE, UH, THE CITY WILL REIMBURSE CAP METRO FOR GRANT FUNDED EXPENSES.

UH, CITY WILL CONTINUE TO OWN THE PROGRAM EQUIPMENT AND INVENTORY, SO THE STATIONS AND THE BIKES, UH, AND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DESIGNING PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ANY CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL HAPPEN WITHIN CAT METRO RIGHT OF WAY.

SO, UH, PADS, CONCRETE PADS THAT WILL BE BUILT, UH, UH, CO-LOCATED WITH TRANSIT STOPS AND WHATNOT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CAT METRO.

UH, AND FINALLY WE'LL ENSURE ACCESS TO BIKE SHARE DURING SPECIAL EVENTS.

UH, SYSTEM OVERVIEW.

UM, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, UH, LAST YEAR WE, UH, MOVED AWAY FROM THE LEGACY BCYCLE SYSTEM AND REFLATED WITH A 100% ELECTRIC BICYCLE FLEET.

UM, SO THE ENTIRE FLEET IS ALL ELECTRIC.

NO MORE ACOUSTIC BIKES AS OF TOMORROW.

YES.

YEAH, , UH, THE, THE NUMBER IS, UH, 73 EXISTING STATIONS, BUT AS OF TOMORROW, WE WILL HAVE 75, UM, ONE ELECTRIFIED STATION.

THAT NUMBER WILL ALSO GO TO TWO TOMORROW.

UH, WE WERE HOPING THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY INSTALLED TODAY, BUT EVERYTHING IS READY TO GO AT THE, UH, EAST FIFTH AND SHADY STATION.

SO THAT WILL BE ONLINE.

UH, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AND TALK

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MORE ABOUT ELECTRIFIED STATIONS AND HOW THAT RELATES TO OPERATIONAL EXPENSES AND WHATNOT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

UH, AND, UH, FINALLY, UM, USERS ARE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PROGRAM VIA THE CAT METRO APP OR THE, UH, TRANSIT APP.

UM, SO YEAH, SO NOW WE'LL MOVE OVER TO RIDERSHIP AND I'LL LET JD TAKE OVER FROM HERE.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, SO BASICALLY RIDERSHIP SINCE WE'VE CHANGED OVER THE SYSTEM, WE DID LAST SUMMER, AND, UM, THE RIDERSHIP HAS BEEN INCREASING BY ABOUT 10% EVERY MONTH.

UM, OUR HIGHEST RIDE DAY, UM, WAS OBVIOUSLY DURING, UH, SOUTH BY ON THE 12TH WITH OVER 2000 TRIPS.

UH, THE TOP PERFORMING STATION IS OUR, UH, THE LIBRARY ON UT, UH, WITH MORE THAN, UH, 30,000 TRIPS, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR.

AND THAT ACTUALLY IS HIGHER NOW.

THIS WAS, THAT NUMBER WAS TAKEN ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO.

UH, TOP PERFORMING STATIONS ARE IN WEST CAMPUS, AND THE TOP USERS OF THE SYSTEM, UM, HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN THE UT STUDENTS.

UM, AUGUST 1ST, WE DID MAKE, UH, FAIR ADJUSTMENTS.

WE HAD A, UM, NATIONWIDE STUDY, UH, TO LOOK AT FAIRS, UM, AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.

UH, WE LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM IN 2013 AND BASICALLY HAVE NOT CHANGED OUR FAIR STRUCTURE IN ALL OF THAT TIME.

AND SO, UM, WE HAVE OUR CURRENT PRICING AND THEN, UH, FOR THE PAY AS YOU RIDE THE ONE DAY, THE 31 DAY AN ANNUAL, AND THEN WE HAVE A STUDENT, UH, DISCOUNT THAT, UM, IS FOR ANY STUDENT 18 AND OVER.

AND BASICALLY, WE ALSO CHANGED THE STRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT ON THE USAGE FEES.

IT GOT VERY CONFUSING.

IT WAS A 30 MINUTE, YOU KNOW, SET PRICE, UM, TO NOW JUST A 25 CENT A MINUTE CHARGE BECAUSE THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE 30 MINUTE, IT WAS LIKE ANY OF THAT 30 MINUTE YOU WERE GONNA BE CHARGED 4 33, SO IF YOU WENT OVER FIVE MINUTES, YOU WOULD END UP PAYING THE FULL, UH, 4 33.

SO WE WENT TO A PER MINUTE OVER EACH CHARGE.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION, UM, WITH THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT WAS OPERATING WITH THE ONE DAY AND THE 31 DAY PASS.

SO THAT'S BEEN CLEANED UP.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE ARE MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED OUR ANNUAL PASS AND STUDENT DISCOUNT WITH INDUSTRY, UH, BEST PRACTICES.

AND THAT WENT INTO EFFECT AUGUST 1ST.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST KIND OF OUR RIDERSHIP PROPENSITY.

THIS WAS A STUDY THAT WE DID IN 20 13, 20, SORRY, 2023 AND 2024.

UH, WE LOOKED AT BIKE SHARE, UH, EXPANSION AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL COULD BE.

SO WE BROKE IT UP AND WE HAVE KIND OF A HIGH RIDERSHIP PUBLIC NEED.

AND THEN THAT COM, UH, COMBO ON THAT LAST SLIDE, UH, THAT LAST PICTURE TO THE RIGHT THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU, UH, WHAT THE RIDERSHIP PROPENSITY WOULD BE IN AUSTIN.

CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS? MM-HMM .

SO JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF GET OUR BEARINGS, WHAT'S A, UH, GOOD RANGE FOR, UH, AVERAGE VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY RIGHT NOW FOR BY CHAIR? LIKE HOW MANY TRIPS PER DAY? YEAH.

IT, IT DOES VARY A LOT, UM, BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON, UM, OTHER ACTIVITIES.

IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER STUDENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, IN, UH, CLASS, UH, AND IT, IT DOES VARY QUITE SUBSTANTIALLY FROM DAY TO DAY AND TRIPS PER BIKE, PER DAY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, AND THE TRIPS PER BIKE PER DAY OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND SIX TRIPS PER DAY PER BIKE.

SO KIND OF GIVES YOU A, MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER NUMBER TO SURE.

WORK OFF OF MM-HMM .

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, TO EXPAND THAT TO ROUGHLY 232 TO 234 STATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

YEAH, SURE.

AND THEN I THINK JACOB IS GOING TO, OOPS, GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA MOVE IN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE STRATEGIC EXPANSION OF THE BIKE SHARE SYSTEM.

SO AS YOU ALL MAY HAVE HEARD, AS YOU ALL KNOW, OR CURRENTLY, UH, OR TOMORROW WE WILL BE AT 75 STATIONS, BUT WE HAVE A TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE SET-ASIDES GRANT FROM THE TEXAS

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UM, SO, UH, CAP METRO REALLY LED, UM, A THOROUGH BIKE SHARE EXPANSION PLAN.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE, THEY HAVE THEIR CORE MARKET, THEIR MODERATE MARKET, AND THEN THEIR, UM, UH, EMERGING MARKET.

SO, UH, ONE THING THAT THEY ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON IS INCREASING COVERAGE THROUGHOUT AUSTIN, THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AND REALLY BALANCE THE OUTWARD GROWTH WITH CORE CAPACITY.

UM, WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS GOING ON IN CENTRAL TEXAS, SO INTEGRATING BIKE SHARE AS FIRST AND LAST MILE OPTIONS WITH PROJECT CONNECT AND THEIR 2035 TRANSIT PLAN THAT IS UPCOMING.

UM, AND THEN ALSO WE NEED TO ENSURE SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS.

UM, SO MAKING SURE THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULLY ELECTRIFIED BIKE SHARE FLEET, THAT WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO KEEP THAT FLEET CHARGED, UM, TO LOWER OPERATIONAL COSTS.

SO LARGELY THAT IS HAVING THE DOCKS CHARGE THE BIKES, WHICH WE CURRENTLY OR WE WILL HAVE TOMORROW TO STATIONS THAT CHARGED THE BIKES.

WERE AIMING FOR ROUGHLY 50 OR 30 TO 50% OF THE SYSTEM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, GETTING INTO THAT, SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS ARE CRITICAL TO EXPANSION OF THE SYSTEM.

SO OUR PRIMARY O AND M COST FOR BIKE SHARE IS BATTERY SWAPS.

UM, CAP METRO HAS THEIR OPERATIONAL STAFF GOING OUT SWAPPING THOSE BATTERIES.

IT TAKES, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE NEW BIKES ARE ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT MORE SECURE THAN THE OLD BCYCLE SYSTEM, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE SECURE, IT ACTUALLY TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO SWAP THE BIKES OR THE BATTERIES AND THE BIKES.

SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ESSENTIALLY ELECTRIFYING 30 TO 50% OF THE BIKE SHARE SY OR STATIONS SO THAT WE ARE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BATTERY SWAPS THAT THE OPERATIONS TEAM DOES SO THAT WE CAN MORE EFFICIENTLY EXPAND THE SYSTEM, UM, EXPAND CAPACITY AND ALSO FOCUS OPERATIONS ON THINGS LIKE MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, TIRES, UM, CHAINS, ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.

UM, ONE THING TO NOTE IS, UH, THE CURRENT SYSTEM BIKE SHARE AT UT IS THE MAJORITY OF OPERATIONS.

SO ROUGHLY 90% OF TRIPS ON THE BIKE SHARE SYSTEM IS BY IN WEST CAMPUS, UM, AND AROUND UT.

SO STAFF IS LARGELY SPENDING THEIR TIME FOCUSING ON BIKE BALANCING AROUND THE CAMPUS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THERE TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THE SYSTEM BETWEEN UT AND OTHER MARKETS THAT WE WANNA ENTER.

UM, ALSO, UH, ELECTRIFICATION IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE, SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING CONDUIT IN THE GROUND, THAT WE'RE GETTING THE METERING, THAT WE'RE GETTING THE PERMITTING DOWN.

UM, SO WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON MAKING THAT EFFICIENT, UM, AND NOT ONLY ELECTRIFYING NEW STATIONS, BUT ALSO RETROFITTING EXISTING STATIONS THAT ARE HIGH RIDERSHIP HAVE HIGH DOCK END AND DOCK OUT RATES SO THAT WE'RE KEEPING THOSE BIKE BATTERIES TOPPED UP.

UM, SO ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON IS BALANCING O AND M COSTS.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS FOR THIS SYSTEM, SO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING TO REDUCE OPERATIONS COSTS.

UH, AGAIN, ELECTRIFICATION IS A BIG PART OF THAT, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT CAP METRO VEHICLES HAVE READY ACCESS TO STATIONS, SO IF THEY NEED TO DELIVER NEW BIKES OR REBALANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE PRIORITIZED PARKING, UM, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT WHEELING BIKES, YOU KNOW, A BLOCK OR TWO AND SPENDING UNNEEDED TIME DOING THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UM, WE'RE ALSO, AS JD MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, REALLY FOCUSED ON KEEPING THE FARES SUSTAINABLE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE ADDING, UM, BIKE SHARE ADVERTISING THIS YEAR.

UM, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THOSE OPERATING COSTS ARE SHARED BETWEEN THE CITY AND CAP METRO.

SO, UM, WE ARE FOCUSED ON EXPANDING 10 STATIONS, UH, HERE IN 2025, UH, THIS FALL, UM, OR FOCUS OR TRYING TO GET THEM DONE THIS FALL.

SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE A MAP OF THAT.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S, UH, KIND OF A MIX OF INFILL, BUT ALSO EXTENDING OPERATIONS, UH, A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THAT CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN AREA.

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UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO SCALE THIS UP YEAR OVER YEAR, SO 10 THIS YEAR, PERHAPS 20 NEXT YEAR, 40, 44 AND 44 TO GET TO THAT LARGE 232 234 STATION, UH, FOOTPRINT.

AND THEN OUR NEXT STEPS WE'LL BE LAUNCHING BIKE SHARE ADVERTISING.

UM, AGAIN, INSTALLING THOSE 10 EXPANSION LOCATIONS IN 2025, WE'RE FOCUSING ON RETROFITTING A LOT OF LOCATIONS THIS YEAR FOR ELECTRIFICATION TO IMPROVE OPERATIONS.

THE FAIR STRUCTURE HAS BEEN, UH, HAS GONE INTO EFFECT, AND THEN WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT BIKE SHARE RIDERSHIP DATA A LOT MORE VISIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND THEN IN 2028, WE'LL REVISIT OUR ILA WITH CAP METRO TO, UM, DO A REVISIT AND CHECK INTO HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

AND THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

I'LL, UH, OPEN IT UP, UH, IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THEN I DO HAVE A NEW, I THINK COMMISSIONER CHEN WRIGHT, UH, UH, JUST MARKED THAT, UH, HE'S HERE WITH US.

SO WE HAVE SEVEN NOW.

YOU KNOW, I, I'LL START US WITH, START US OFF WITH A QUESTION.

I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU GUYS VIEW, UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT COMPETITION WITH, WITH OTHER MICRO MOBILITY PROVIDERS LIKE LIME AND BIRD, RIGHT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 10 TIMES THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES DEPLOYED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UH, AND MOST OF THEM ARE IN THAT CORE MARKET YOU'RE CHASING AT.

UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, SCOOTER COMPANY'S GOOD IF THEY GET ONE AND A HALF, TWO TRIPS PER VEHICLE PER DAY.

THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THREE TO SIX IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN THEM.

SO HOW DO YOU LOOK AT AN AREA LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN OR MAYBE EVEN PO SALTILLO AREA WHERE YOU COULD SEE MORE DEMAND FOR BIKE SHARE, BUT THERE ALREADY IS DEMAND, UH, OR THERE ALREADY IS SUPPLY OF MICRO MOBILITY THROUGH LYME AND BURDEN PROVIDERS LIKE THAT.

OOPS.

UM, I THINK FROM A CAT METRO POINT OF VIEW, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT MORE AS A, UM, TRANSIT SOLUTION, UM, AS OPPOSED TO LIKE, LOOK, TRYING TO GO HEAD AND HEAD, HEAD TO HEAD COMPETITION WITH SCOOTERS, THAT IT ACTUALLY IS KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT MARKETS.

UM, AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO PROVIDE OUR TRANSIT CUSTOMERS, UM, ALTERNATIVES, AND ALSO TO GET 'EM, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE THAT LAST LITTLE BED, THOSE LAST FEW BLOCKS OR, YOU KNOW, UP THE, WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT FIRST MILE, LAST MILE CONVERSATION.

SO WE'RE TYING INTO LIKE OUR, UH, UPDATED METRO RAPID STATIONS, AND WE'RE PUTTING, UH, BIKE SHARE RIGHT THERE SO THEY CAN GET OFF THE BUS AND, AND TAKE THAT TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION.

UM, AND SINCE WE HAVE A, UM, UH, STATION BASED SYSTEM, THEN YOU, IT'S VERY EASY TO FIND BIKES, UH, AND IT'S EASY TO FIND MORE THAN ONE BIKE.

SO IF YOU'RE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE, SOMETIMES SCOOTERS DON'T REALLY PROVIDE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE CHASING DOWN WHERE THE SCOOTERS ARE WITH THE STATION BASED SYSTEM, YOU CAN ALWAYS SEE, AND AS WE ELECTRIFY THE STATIONS, IT'S GONNA GET EVEN BETTER SO THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE, UH, CHARGED BIKES AT THE STATIONS.

AND, AND LET ME ASK MAYBE A FOLLOW UP TO THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, YOU'VE GOT THE CORE AREA MM-HMM .

YOU'VE GOT THIS EXPANDING AREA.

I, AND I, I LOVE, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE IN THIS MAP, SIX OF THE 10 NEW LOCATIONS ARE RIGHT ALONG A METRO RAPID ROUTE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO EXPANDING OUT OF THAT CORE AREA.

SO I, I, I GUESS, AND IN FACT, I THINK SOME OF THESE MIGHT EVEN BE IN THAT GREENER AREA.

UH, I REALLY THINK CAN HELP ELEVATE CAP METRO'S SERVICE, UM, AND MAKE IT MORE INTUITIVE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TRY THAT, UM, AS AN OPTION.

SO, SO ARE YOU PRIORITIZING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER, BUT ARE YOU PRIORITIZING GOING TO THOSE CORE AND JUST OUTSIDE CORE AREAS SO YOU CAN BUILD RIDERSHIP OR PROVIDING A, A SERVICE THAT ACCOMPANIES NEW TRANSIT ROUTES? YES, , I'LL SAY FROM A TDM PERSPECTIVE, IT'S DEFINITELY A MIX OF BOTH.

I THINK, UM, GETTING PEOPLE TO AND FROM TRANSIT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, FOR THE FIRST AND LAST MILE, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A CONTIGUOUS SYSTEM THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS INTUITIVE.

I THINK ONE OF THE BITS OF FLEXIBILITY THAT SCOOTERS HAVE IS YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN PLACES WHERE BIKE SHARE DOESN'T EXIST YET, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BIKE SHARE REALLY DOES BRING AS A BENEFIT IS IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, A MORE KIND OF ORDERLY, UM, YOU KNOW, PLACEMAKING OPPORTUNITY FOR, TO REALLY ELEVATE TRANSIT AS, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A THING IN A NORMALIZED WAY THAT PEOPLE DO.

UM, MAKING TRANSIT STOPS MORE ROBUST,

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SO, SO LET ME ASK TWO FOLLOW UPS ON THAT, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL STOP THIS END OF THE CONVERSATION.

SO I, I'M CURIOUS, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY STATISTICS ON WHAT PERCENT OF BITE SHARE RIDERS ARE USING IT TO CONNECT TO TRANSIT? I'M SURE YOU DO .

AND THEN, UH, UM, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY INFORMATION ON WHETHER THERE WAS A DROP OFF IN RIDERSHIP WHEN CAT METRO SWITCHED TO THE UMO APP? AND I ASSUME THAT ALSO MEANT SOME MIGRATION FOR METRO BIKE AS WELL, I'LL SAY FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE UNDERWAY IS THE CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A KEY PART OF OUR MEASURES IS THAT FIRST AND LAST MILE FEEDING TRANSIT.

SO RIGHT NOW, SINCE WE'VE MOVED TO THE NEW SYSTEM, THAT DATA ISN'T QUITE LINKED YET, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVE IT SET UP SO THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS OF OUR GRANT, WE CAN REALLY TRACK ESSENTIALLY HOW BIKE SHARE HAS FED TRANSIT SO WE CAN SHOW NOT ONLY TXDOT THAT IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT, BUT ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.

UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY MEASURES OF OUR CPRG GRANT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I'M LOOKING ONLINE AS WELL.

WELL THEN I'LL ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, .

UM, I, I, SINCE WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM CAT METRO HERE, UM, CAN YOU TALK ANY BIT ABOUT, ONE THING THAT I FEEL LIKE HASN'T GOTTEN A LOT OF LOVE, UH, AS METRO BIKE HAS COME ONLINE IS THE, UH, OLD SCHOOL METRO BIKE.

UH, WHERE'S MY CARD? IT'S HERE SOMEWHERE.

OH, OLD SCHOOL.

THE STUDENT DISCOUNT AND STRUCTURE ALSO CHANGED.

THIS OLD METRO BIKE, RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT TO GET A CARD.

THE ONLINE PORTAL DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK.

YOU KNOW, THE, EVERY, EVERY TIME I I PARK MY BIKE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO AN AUSTIN FC GAME, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHERE'D YOU GET THAT? HOW DO YOU DO THIS? UH, CAN YOU TALK ANY BIT ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S ANY PLANS TO KIND OF INCREASE THE MARKETING FOR THAT, OR MAYBE EVEN KIND OF CHANGE THE NAME SO IT'S NOT CONFUSED WITH METRO BIKE ? SO THE C WHAT CARD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

OH, SURE.

THE SHELTER CARDS TO GET TO THE METRO BIKE SHELTER, OH, IT'S SHELTERS.

SO RIGHT NOW, , WE'RE DOING AN EVALUATION OF THE BIKE SHELTERS.

UM, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR LIKE 10 YEARS AND NO LOVE, UH, AT ALL SENT THAT WAY.

SO, UH, MY TEAM RIGHT NOW, WE'RE EVALUATING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER CITIES.

UH, WE'VE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES ABOUT LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO? UH, THEY WERE GRANT FUNDED, SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

ANY KIND OF RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT THAT AGREEMENT HAD, UH, AS TO WHETHER WE CAN MOVE 'EM OR WHAT REPURPOSE THEM OR WHAT CAN WE DO.

UH, WE WILL BE SENDING SURVEYS OUT TO, UM, JUST THE, THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN AUSTIN, UH, PROBABLY IN SEPTEMBER.

UH, SO, AND IT'S PRETTY OPEN-ENDED SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SHARE, UH, THEIR EXPERIENCES AND SUGGESTIONS.

UM, SO HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE, UH, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ALL SHELTERS ALL AT ONCE, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO SAY, HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS THIS? WHERE ARE THE PRIORITIES? UM, BECAUSE IT JUST IS AN OLD, UH, PROGRAM AND IT JUST DOES NOT WORK.

AND, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, SO WE'RE DEDICATING SOME, UH, EFFORT INTO, UH, ADDRESSING THAT IN COMING UP WITH SOME, SOME BETTER SOLUTIONS.

THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

UH, ONE LAST CALL FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, CHAIR, I'LL, YEAH, I'LL ASK A QUICK QUESTION.

I SAW A VERSION OF THIS PRESENTATION LAST MONTH THAT THE PROJECT CONNECT COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ASK MORE QUESTIONS THERE, BUT I'M GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION, WHICH I'VE BEEN KIND OF REFLECTING ON SINCE UNIT IN JULY AT, AT CAC.

UM, SO WE KNOW THAT A HUGE PROPORTION OF THE TOTAL RIDERSHIP OF THIS SYSTEM IS UT STUDENTS.

AND I THINK IT'S, UM, ACTUALLY SOMEWHAT POORLY UNDERSTOOD BY THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, LIKE HOW MUCH IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, TRANSPORTATION AND ACCESS AND DIFFERENT ISSUES HAVE CHANGED IN WEST CAMPUS AND UT IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE ARE USING TRANSIT, HOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING AROUND.

UM, AND SO I KNOW THAT THE FAIR CHANGE IS, IS OBVIOUSLY GONNA VERY MUCH AFFECT THE STUDENTS.

UM,

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SO I WOULD JUST, JUST REALLY REQUEST THE TEAMS TO REALLY BE WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS IN WEST CAMPUS AND ON CAMPUS, AND LIKE, IF WE SEE A DROP IN RIDERSHIP.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS SUCH A IMPORTANT PART OF THE OVERALL ECOSYSTEM IN WEST CAMPUS AND, AND STUDENT LIFE AND TRANSPORTATION.

SO WE JUST NEED TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT.

AND IF WE SEE A DIP IN RIDERSHIP OR SOMETHING CHANGING, I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE DO.

UM, I MEAN, THERE WAS SOME TALK AT THE, UH, THE JULY MEETING OF LIKE THE STUDENTS.

MAYBE THEY, THEY'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH OF A DISCOUNT AS THEY USED TO, I THINK BASICALLY.

SO THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, WHICH I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK, UM, WE WANT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE DO IN THEIR TWENTIES, I, LATE TEENS AND TWENTIES, THEY CARRY WITH THEM INTO LIFE AND IN TERMS OF HOW THEY NAVIGATE THE WORLD.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT'S SUCH SO WONDERFUL THAT IT'S SUCH A PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM THERE, AND IT'S, IT'S SUCH HAS BY SUCH HIGH USAGE AMONG THE STUDENTS, BUT WE, WE WANNA SEE THAT CONTINUE.

SO, UM, JUST, JUST OUTREACH TO THEM IN NOTICING HOW THOSE STATS GO.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE PART OF THE RIDERSHIP DASHBOARD BECOMING PUBLICLY AVAILABLE WILL BE A BIG PART OF THAT AS WELL.

AND I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE, UM, SIGNING OUR AGREEMENT WITH UT AND UT IS SUPPLEMENTING THIS FIRST YEAR, UM, AND SEEING HOW, UM, THAT STUDENT DISCOUNT AND ALSO FACULTY DISCOUNT.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS FIRST YEAR, AND THEN WE WILL REVISIT THAT, BUT THEY ARE, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE SUCH A, A LIFT, UH, FOR THAT, UH, STUDENT POPULATION.

THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS.

YEP.

COMMISSIONER JAMESON.

UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON, UM, IF YOU HAVE NUMBERS OR LIKE PERCENTAGES OF WHAT, WHAT, UM, WHAT AMOUNT OF FARES ARE COVERING THE, LIKE OVERALL OPERATING COSTS AND LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING FOR THE, UM, THE BIKE SHARE ADVERTISING TO BRING IN TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE, TO THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW? UM, THE PERCENTAGE THAT, UM, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE FAIRS, BECAUSE THE STUDENT FAIR WAS SO, UM, SO LOW .

UM, SO THAT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 25%, UH, OF THE OPERATING COSTS.

NOW, THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, IS SHARING THAT.

WE JUST STARTED THE ADVERTISING THIS SUMMER.

UH, SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE SEEN, WE HAD HEB ON SOME OF THE STATIONS.

AND SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF BUILDING THAT ADVERTISING, UM, UH, PLATFORM FOR WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, MOVING FORWARD TO TAKE UP EVEN MORE OF THAT, UM, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPERATING AND REVENUE.

IS THERE LIKE A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR LIKE PLANS FOR LIKE WHAT THAT, WHAT DOES THAT, LIKE, WHAT DOES ADVERTISING BRING IN DOLLAR WISE? I'M NOT SURE.

YEAH, I, I'M, I'M REALLY NOT SURE.

WE'VE JUST DONE THIS FIRST AGREEMENT WITH HEB, SO WE SHOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WHOLE ADVERTISING PROGRAM.

UH, WE ARE DOING IT IN HOUSE.

GOTCHA.

UM, AND SO, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, OF, OF HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THE ADVERTISING AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT, UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS.

I MEAN, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR IT, UM, NEXT YEAR AS TO, UM, HOW THAT'S WORKING.

LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS.

OUR THIRD DISCUSSION ITEM, A DISCUSSION ON EMERGENCY RESPONSE MANAGEMENT.

WELL THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHTY.

AND THEN JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT WE ARE, UH, EXACTLY AT QUORUM RIGHT NOW WITH COMMISSIONER SORIN, UH, NOT AVAILABLE.

SO LET'S TRY TO, IF YOU CAN TRY TO KEEP YOUR CAMERAS ON SO WE CAN STAY TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS AT COMPLIANT.

THAT WOULD BE LOVELY.

UM, I WILL CALL UP

[3. Discussion on Emergency Response Management]

UH, WE HAVE KIMMY MCMINN AND DAN RACK, UH, WITH TPW.

YOU ALL FEEL FREE TO START WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

WE WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WITH TPW.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS DAN RACK.

I'M ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.

I'M JOINED BY, UH, KIMMY MCMAN, WHO'S OUR PROGRAM MANAGER FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND SO TODAY, TODAY

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UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR CURRENT STATE AND HOW WE'RE POISED FOR SUCCESS, UH, SUCCESSFUL EMERGENCY RESPONSE CURRENTLY, UM, SOME OF OUR CURRENT INITIATIVES AND ALSO OUR FUTURE PLANS, UH, AND CITYWIDE COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION.

IF I CAN GET THIS TO WORK.

THERE WE GO.

CLEARING DURING ANY KIND OF STORM OR EVENT, UM, LANE AND ROAD CLOSURES THAT ARE DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO I JUST WANNA START WITH THE STRUCTURE OF OUR EM PROGRAM, UH, EM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR SHORT.

UH, OUR CURRENT PROGRAM TEAM IS COMPRISED OF TWO INDIVIDUALS.

UH, THESE PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT OUR PLANS ARE UPDATED, THAT THEY'RE CURRENT AND THAT THEY'RE ACTIONABLE.

UH, THEY ALSO ENSURE THAT OUR TEAMS ARE TRAINED AND READY FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

UM, THE NEXT PART OF OUR GROUPS THAT RESPOND ARE OUR OPERATIONAL GROUPS.

UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD DURING AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEARING ROADWAYS, TREATING ROADWAYS, UH, TAKING CARE OF DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, ENSURING THAT SIGNALS ARE WORKING AND THAT SIGNS ARE UP.

UH, SO VERY CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS AS A CITY CLEARING CRITICAL PATHWAYS.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE OUR SUPPORT FUNCTIONS.

THESE ARE THE GROUPS KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENE WHO SUPPORT THE EM RESPONSE.

UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TEAMS ABOUT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICES.

ONE OF THEM, THEY ENSURE THAT WE HAVE COORDINATED COLLABORATIVE, UH, INFORMATION SHARING WITH GOOD STATISTICS AND GOOD NUMBERS ABOUT WORK ORDERS.

WE HAVE OUR DTS, OUR DATA TECHNOLOGY SERVICES TEAM THAT ENSURES WE HAVE PROPER GIS MAPPING AND TOOLS READY AND ACCESSIBLE FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL LOGISTICS TO ENSURE SUPPLIES ARE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE, OUR SAFETY TEAM ON HAND TO ENSURE THAT OUR TEAMS ARE SAFE IN THE FIELD AND OPERATING IN A SAFE MANNER.

AND THEN LASTLY, OUR FINANCE TEAM TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE, UH, PROPERLY POISED FOR FEMA REPORTING IF IT COMES TO THAT.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND OFF THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION TO KIMMY.

HI, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS KIMMY MCMAN, AND AS DAN SAID, I AM THE EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.

AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT IN THIS SLIDE ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACTIVATIONS AND EVENTS, INCIDENTS THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY.

SO THIS PAST WINTER SEASON, WE HAD THREE WINTER WEATHER EVENTS.

WE HAD TWO, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AN EOC, THAT'S THE AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER THAT ACTIVATED TWICE.

AND THEN OUR THIRD EVENT IN FEBRUARY, WE OP, UH, ACTIVATED OUR DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS CENTER.

SO JUST OUR DEPARTMENT WAS WORKING ON THAT WINTER WEATHER ACTIVATION, AND WE COORDINATED VIRTUALLY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT TIME.

CURRENTLY, UM, AS WE CAN SEE IN THE NEWS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SEVERE WEATHER AROUND OUR AREA IN CENTRAL TEXAS.

AND SO WE ARE A SUPPORT DEPARTMENT FOR THOSE SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS.

WE WORK ON DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, WORKING WITH, UM, AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY AND OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.

AND THEN WE ALSO ASSIST WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT WITH ADDITIONAL CREWS TO GO OUT OR BARRICADES THAT THEY USE TO SET UP ON LOW WATER CROSSINGS WHEN THOSE ARE DEEMED NECESSARY BY THE FLOOD EARLY WARNING SYSTEM.

SO THIS YEAR SO FAR, AND IN SPRING AND SUMMER, WE'VE HAD THREE SEVERE WEATHER ACTIVATIONS.

AND THEN WE ALSO AS A DEPARTMENT REALLY LOOK AT THE SPECIAL EVENTS.

SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW HOW WE DO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

WE WILL ACTIVATE, UM, AN EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER OR AN EVENT OPERATION CENTER IN ADVANCE OF A LARGE FESTIVAL OR EVENT, OR VIP VISIT.

AND SO OUR DEPARTMENT IS REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT WITH USING THE CCTV CAMERA ACCESS AND ALSO, UM, HAVING AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER REPRESENTATIVE THERE TO COORDINATE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SO ACL F1 SOUTH BY, UM, VIP VISIT, SUCH AS A PRESIDENTIAL VISIT OR VP VISIT.

AND THEN OUR SCALE OF RESPONSE, WE CAN SEE A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS.

A FULL EOC ACTIVATION, THAT'S USUALLY AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY, AND THAT WILL BE MOST OF THE PERTINENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF BOSTON THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT.

ANOTHER TYPE OF ACTIVATION WE CAN HAVE AS A DEPARTMENT OPERATION, UH, CENTER ACTIVATION, WHICH IS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT.

WE COORDINATE BETWEEN PUBLIC WORKS AND THE TRANSPORTATION BRANCHES AND ALL OF THOSE SUPPORT FUNCTIONS THAT DAN TALKED ABOUT.

AND THEN A, A UNIQUE SITUATION IS KIND OF LIKE A, IN BETWEEN , A SITUATIONAL ASSESSMENT TEAM COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN WANTS TO PREPARE AND HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM BEFORE AN EVENT COMES IN.

SO FOR SOME OF THE SEVERE WEATHER THAT WE'VE HAD THIS SPRING AND SUMMER, THEY WOULD ACTIVATE AND CALL IN CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS, USUALLY PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT OUR DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS SUCH A BIG PIECE WITH THE ROADWAYS AND THE SIGNALS THAT WE'RE USUALLY ASKED TO BE PART OF THOSE SITUATIONAL ASSESSMENT TEAMS. FROM THE SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT ACTIONS THAT WE TAKE.

WE DO ROAD TREATMENT DURING WINTER WEATHER DEBRIS

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WE ALSO DO SIGN REPLACEMENTS.

SO IF A STORM KNOCKS IT DOWN, WE HAVE SIGNS AND MARKINGS GO OUT AND PUT UP NEW SIGNS.

AND THEN WE WORK A LOT WITH THE SIGNALS.

SO DURING SOME OF THE ACTIVATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR WINTER STORM URA URI AND, UM, WINTER STORM MARA, WE SAW DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE SIGNALS WHERE THE SIGNALS MIGHT GO INTO FLASH OR THEY GO DARK.

WE, THE DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED REALLY WELL TO COME UP WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO KEEP THOSE SIGNALS WORKING.

SO THEY USE B BATTERY BACKUP UNITS ON SIGNALS NOW, AND ALSO DEPLOYING GENERATORS.

SO IF IT'S A LONGER STORM, THE GENERATORS WILL THEN RUN THE SIGNALS, AND THEN WE HAVE CREWS THAT GO AROUND AND TOP OFF THE FUEL FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE GOOD, REALLY GOOD STEP FOR THE WINTER WEATHER WE'VE TAKEN.

AND THEN CITYWIDE COORDINATED, UM, EFFORTS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, BUT WE ARE REALLY A, AN ACTIVE PART IN COORDINATION CALLS AT THE CITY LEVEL.

WE WILL HAVE THOSE IN ADVANCE.

WE, WE PARTICIPATE THEM, HOMELAND SECURITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PUTS THEM ON, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THE READINESS, HOW OUR DEPARTMENT IS READY FOR AN INCOMING STORM, HAVE A MEETING OR ONE OF THOSE CALLS AGAIN DURING, AND WHAT ARE WE CURRENTLY ACTIVE DURING THE STORM? WHAT ARE WE DOING ON THE STREETS? AND THEN POST-STORM RECOVERY AND DEBRIS MANAGEMENT.

THE, THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS SLIDE IS WE WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW HOW WE LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO ASSIST AND ENHANCE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

AND WE'RE USING ALL PIECES OF INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE AN INFORMED CHOICE FOR, UM, WHAT TYPES OF RESPONSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE.

A COUPLE THINGS WE ARE USING CURRENTLY IS LIKE AN EMERGENCY ON-CALL DASHBOARD.

THIS IS NOT PICTURED HERE, BUT YOU CAN JUST PICTURE A FEW BOXES ACROSS THE TOP WITH LIKE, WHO'S ON CALL FOR OUR SIGNALS OPERATIONS, WHO'S ON CALL AT OUR MOBILITY MANAGEMENT CENTER, WHO'S ON CALL FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WHICH EXECUTIVE IS ON CALL SO THAT IF AN EVENT HAPPENED IN EARLY MORNING OR MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THEN WE KNOW WHO TO CALL DIRECTLY AT 2:00 AM.

WE ALSO HAVE THE CURRENT ROADS CONDITION DASHBOARD.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE CORNER WHERE IT'S GREEN AND IT SAYS DRYING GOOD.

WE HAVE A COUPLE SENSORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE CAN USE THAT INFORMATION DURING A STORM AS WELL.

MAPPING OF OUR CRI CRITICAL ASSETS AND FACILITIES IS THE MAP UP IN THE, IN THE UPPER CORNER WITH THE BLUE AND GREEN.

AND THAT HAS, IS A WONDERFUL TOOL.

IT'S A WINTER WEATHER ROUTES MAP, BUT WE CAN ACCESS AND LOOK AT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED ON WITH MULTIPLE EVERY DEPARTMENT, UM, WHERE A AE SUBSTATIONS ARE, WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, UM, SEWER LIFT STATIONS, CRITICAL HOSPITALS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THAT SIGNAL STATUS.

YOU CAN SEE DOWN IN THE CORNER, WE'LL TELL US HOW MANY WE HAVE IN FLASH SIGNALS THAT MIGHT BE ON A GENERATOR, SIGNALS THAT HAVE SIGNAGE.

AND THEN WE WORK CLOSELY WITH MANY PIECES OF THE DEPARTMENT ON OUR SERVICE REQUEST FROM 3 1 1 OR MAXIMO IS ANOTHER SOFTWARE TO MANAGE WORK ORDERS.

AND THEN UP IN THE CORNER WE HAVE OUR SHAREPOINT SITE, WHICH IS OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATIONS TOOL.

AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MAPS ARE LINKED.

WE LINK TO THE LCRA, UM, HYDRO MAP AND, UH, THE W UH, THE WATERSHED PROTECTION, A TX FLOODS MAP, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT TECHNOLOGY.

OUR CURRENT PRIORITIES ARE BASED ON WHAT THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED AS A WHOLE FOR MAJOR PRIORITIES THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS INVOLVED IN.

WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, A PIECE OF A CITYWIDE COORDINATION WITH HOMELAND SECURITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY, A-F-D-A-P-D AND EMS TO LOOK AT EVACUATION PLANNING.

IT'S AN ALL HAZARDS PLAN, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON OUR PREPARATIONS IN OUR DEPARTMENT FOR HOW WE WOULD ASSIST PUBLIC SAFETY WITH AN EVACUATION FOR WILDFIRE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE TRAILERS, ENCLOSED TRAILERS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, LOOKED AT TRAFFIC DEVICES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, TYPE THREE BARRICADES, CONES, LIGHTS, THAT SORT OF, UM, INFORMATION.

AND THEN WE ARE WORKING ON DETERMINING WHERE THESE TRAILERS WILL BE STAGED AT SO THAT IF THERE WAS AN EVACUATION, OUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BE CALLED UPON TO GET THE TRAILERS AND DEPLOY THEM TO SITE AND ASSIST PUBLIC SAFETY AS REQUESTED.

WE'VE BEEN DOING DIFFERENT EVALUATIONS AND PRA AND PRACTICING WITH A FD AND A PD ON THAT AS WELL.

THE WINTER WEATHER PREPARATIONS IS THE BIG PIECE OF TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS, AND WE HAVE AN OPERATIONAL PLAN FOR WINTER WEATHER SPECIFICALLY.

WE UPDATE THAT YEARLY.

WITHIN THAT, WE ALSO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF WINTER WEATHER READINESS.

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WE PROVIDE THAT TO OUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP AND THEY PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY MANAGEMENT OFFICE.

WE DO DIFFERENT EXERCISES TO PRACTICE WINTER WEATHER AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREW AND THE TRANSPORTATION CREWS DO EQUIPMENT TRAINING.

THEY DO FIELD EXERCISES INCLUDING SAFETY.

HOW DO YOU PUT ON, UH, TIRE CHAINS FOR THE SNOW AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN ONE VERY EXCITING THING IS WE GOT THREE NEW, NEW UNITS FOR A LIQUID APPLICATION SYSTEM.

AND THIS IS JUST A MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT WAY OF THE APPLICATION OF THE BRINE THAT WE'RE PUTTING DOWN THAT WOULD BE USED TO, UM, PREVENT ICE AND THEN ALSO DE-ICE IN WHATEVER SITUATIONS.

IT'S A, IT'LL MAKE OUR SYSTEM MORE, UH, PRECISE WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT TREATMENT.

THE NEXT WE'LL JUST TALK TOUCH BRIEFLY ON A COUPLE OF REALLY IMPORTANT COMPONENTS FOR AN ORGANIZATION'S PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE STRATEGY.

OUR CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLAN IS OF OUR ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE WITHIN TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.

WE HAD SEPARATE WHEN WE WERE SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS, COOP PLANS, AND NOW WE'RE INCORPORATING THEM AND REBUILDING BASED ON ALL THE DIVISIONS.

WE DO QUARTERLY EXERCISES AND REVIEWS WILL BE PERFORMED ON THAT.

AND THEN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN IS REALLY AN ALL HAZARDS PLAN AND IT'LL BE OUR GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT APPENDICES ON FIRE EVACUATION, WINTER WEATHER, FLOOD RESPONSE, AND DEBRIS MANAGEMENT, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR RESPONSES THAT WE DO DURING OUR, OUR ACTIVATIONS CITYWIDE EFFORTS.

UM, TOUCHED ON THIS SO THAT I LET, WE LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE'RE PLANNING WITHIN THE CITY THIS COORDINATION AND WE'RE NOT DOING ALL THIS PLANNING WITHIN A SILO.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT HOMELAND SECURITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, LOTS OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES AND OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS AS WELL.

SO THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, IT'S A STRATEGY TO DECREASE THE IMPACT OF NATURAL DISASTERS AND HUMAN CAUSED DISASTERS AND HAZARDS.

WE WERE WORKING ON UPDATING THAT, UM, WITH HOMELAND SECURITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THEIR CONTRACTOR.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT THIS COMMON OPERATING PICTURE.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE COORDINATING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, PART PARTNERS AND DEBRIS MANAGEMENT BEING ONE OF 'EM, LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO ASSIST IN THAT AS WELL.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A CITYWIDE, UM, APPLICATION OF A PROGRAM CALLED VOC.

IT'S STANDS FOR VIRTUAL EOC, AUSTIN ENERGY, AUSTIN WATER.

OTHER DEPARTMENTS USE THAT AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, COMMUNICATION TOOL.

AND IT'S WONDERFUL.

AND THEN THE, HE SOME SPOCK MEETINGS, OUR COORDINATION MEAN MEETINGS, THAT MEANS JUST THE SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT.

THEY PRESENT INFORMATION FROM A CITYWIDE LEVEL.

ALL THE DEPARTMENT CONTACTS WILL GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND THEN DISSEMINATE IT TO THE PERTINENT PARTS OF THEIR DEPARTMENT.

THOSE MEETINGS ARE, ARE ONCE A MONTH.

THE CAP COG, THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT FOR OUR AREA.

WE, UM, PARTICIPATE USUALLY IN A ONCE A MONTH MEETING TO GO TO THE, UM, HOMELAND SECURITY TASK FORCE MEETING.

AND THAT IS JUST AS AN OBSERVER, BUT THEY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION ABOUT EXERCISES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR REGION.

THEY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TRAININGS ARE AVAILABLE.

AND THEN MASS CARE COORDINATION IS ALSO BIG RIGHT NOW.

AND OUR PART OF IT FOR TPW IS MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP THE RIGHT OF WAY CLEAR SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS SHELTERS SO THAT THEY CAN ACCESS WARMING CENTERS IN THE WINTER IF THERE WAS A SPRING STORM SO THAT WE COULD THEN CLEAR THE ROAD SO THAT PEOPLE COULD GET TO A COOLING CENTER IF THEIR AC IS OUT.

ONE OF THE MAJOR EXCITING TOOLS, I'M A NERD, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE INCIDENT COMMAND SYSTEM TRAINING WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.

IT'S WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY USES TO TRAIN ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES ON MANAGING AN INCIDENT.

WE ARE DOING THIS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THAT TRAINING SO THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL IN OUR MANAGEMENT OF INCIDENTS, BUT ALSO SO WE CAN PLUG AND COORDINATE WITH THAT PUBLIC SAFETY ENTITY TO SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE.

AND THIS IS A REALLY GREAT WAY.

WE'RE STARTING WITH, UH, OPERATIONAL DIVISIONS AND THEN TRAINING SUPPORT STAFF AND OTHER DEPARTMENT STAKEHOLDERS.

YOU CAN SEE THE COURSE PLAN RIGHT THERE.

THE BASICS ARE THE ICS 100, 200, AND THEN THE NIMS IS NATIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

AND THEN 800 IS HOW WE FIT INTO THE FRAMEWORK, THREE HUNDREDS AND ED INTERMEDIATE CLASS.

AND THAT INTER-AGENCY IS REALLY CRITICAL.

THAT COORDINATION IS REALLY CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS AS WELL.

AND FOR THE WHOLE CITY HERE, FOR TPW,

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THIS IS A DRAFT, SO JUST A DRAFT PLAN, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO SET THIS UP.

YOU CAN SEE AN INCIDENT COMMANDER IS SOMEONE IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD RUN THE INCIDENT AND COORDINATE WITH THE OTHER ENTITIES, BUT WE HAVE OTHER PIECES.

THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, THE SAFETY OFFICER, OUR EOC, OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION REP, AND THEN WE HAVE EQUITY ON THERE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN AN EQUITABLE WAY.

THE MAJOR POSITIONS THAT THEY HAVE HERE ARE PLANS.

SECTION CHIEF, YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, OPERATIONS SECTION CHIEF LOGISTICS, WHAT DO WE NEED? AND THEN ADMIN AND FINANCE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT UNDER PLANNING.

ONE OF THE KEY PIECES I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE COORDINATE WITH TXDOT AND HAVE THAT LIAISON SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COORDINATE THAT RESPONSE.

THE PUBLIC DOESN'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WHO OWNS THE ASSET, SO REGARDLESS OF THAT OWNERSHIP, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT SMOOTH FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL? AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT BRANCHES AND WE'RE, AGAIN, THIS IS A DRAFT IN PROGRESS OF BUILDING OUT BETWEEN THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND THE TRANSPORTATION BRANCH.

AND I THINK THAT'S OUR LAST SLIDE.

DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR I'LL OPEN IT UP TO COMMISSIONERS FIRST.

DO THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION IF, UH, IT'S OKAY.

SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS FANTASTIC AND, UH, VERY, VERY HELPFUL AND INSIGHTFUL.

UM, UM, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WERE KIND OF, UH, RAPID RESPONSE, IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO EMERGENCIES.

AND I THINK AS WE'VE SEEN WITH THE MOST RECENT EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS AND FLOODING, WE'RE GONNA EXPECT MORE AND MORE OF THESE THINGS AND THEY'RE GONNA BE KIND OF UNPREDICTABLE.

AND I GUESS I'M WONDERING ABOUT, UM, IN ADDITION TO THESE KIND OF SHORT TERM RESPONSE ACTIONS, WHAT THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING OR WHAT THE THINKING IS AROUND KIND OF LONG TERM INVESTMENTS AND CHANGES THAT YOU MAY BE THINKING ABOUT IN ORDER TO, UM, CREATE, YOU KNOW, MORE RESILIENT SERVICES.

I CAN ANSWER REAL QUICKLY AND THEN PASS IT OVER TO DAN, BUT I THINK A MAJOR PIECE OF THAT FOR, FOR US IS DEBRIS MANAGEMENT.

SO THAT IS A LONGER TERM RECOVERY.

UM, IT, IT WILL WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT ALL HAVE A PIECE AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY AND WATERSHED PROTECTION FOR THE WATERWAYS.

AND SO THAT AFTER THE RECENT MAY MICROBURST, THAT WENT ON FOR WEEKS AFTER THAT IMMEDIATE SHORT TERM RESPONSE.

SO AGAIN, THE TRAINING IS REALLY ESSENTIAL FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO PLUG IN AND COORDINATE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND, AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.

AND BUILDING OUT SOME OF THAT TECHNOLOGY.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT A DASHBOARD THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH A RR AND, UM, AUSTIN FIRE, AUSTIN RESOURCE AND AUSTIN FIRE TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE MAP OUT, MAP OUT THAT DEBRIS MANAGEMENT PIECE BECAUSE THAT IS A ONGOING SITUATION.

YOU CAN SEE WITH THE, WITH THE CURRENT FLOODS, THAT'S GONNA BE A MONTH'S, IF NOT YEARS RECOVERY, ANYTHING THAT, YEAH, AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT REALLY THE FOCUS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS HOW WE RESPOND BETTER AND PROVIDE MORE, MORE RESILIENT RESPONSE EFFORTS, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE RESILIENCY OF OUR NETWORK.

I THINK THAT'S BETTER ANSWERED BY AN ENGINEER OR SOMEONE WORKING ON OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

UM, JIM DALE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.

JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION ABOUT THE RESILIENCY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DEFINITELY ON OUR MIND BESIDES THE, THE SHORT TERM NEED FOR US TO JUMP ON IT AND ACTIVATE AND RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

WE ALSO DO A LOT OF PLANNING WORK AND THAT'S WHAT, UM, KIMMY, UM, TEAM IS LEADING.

AND, AND DAN, HE HAS, HE MANAGES A NUMBER OF OUR STAFF THAT ARE ON THE SUPPORT SERVICES SIDE THAT HELP WITH THAT AS WELL.

BUT JUST REAL QUICK, I WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOME THINGS.

OUR SIGNALS, UH, SYSTEM WE'RE WORKING ON MAKING THAT MORE RESILIENT.

PROVIDING PROVIDING, UM, BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS TO THE SIGNALS.

SO IF WE DO LOSE POWER FOR A SHORT DURATION OF TIME, SAY SIX TO EIGHT HOURS, UM, WE CAN KEEP THE SIGNAL, UM, WORKING NORMAL COLORS.

UM, DURING THAT TIME, WE'RE ALSO INVESTING IN HAVING COMMUNICATION AND WE DO HAVE COMMUNICATION TO ALL OF OUR SIGNALS TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THEM.

UM, SO THOSE, THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AND THEN, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT'S UNIQUE, UM, IN THE COUNTRY AND ONE OF OUR SIGNAL ENGINEERS HAVE WORKED ON THIS WITH OUR VENDORS IS THE ABILITY TO RESET A SIGNAL REMOTELY WITHOUT HAVING TO SEND OUR CREWS OUT WHEN THE SIGNAL'S IN FLASH TO RESET THE SIGNAL.

WE CAN DO THAT FROM OUR MOBILITY MANAGEMENT CENTER.

SO BEEN, UM, A NUMBER OF, UH, A SERIES OF PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE USING BOND DOLLARS THAT WE'VE BEEN BLESSED BY THE COMMUNITY

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TO PROVIDE TO US TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, ALSO, UM, SOME OTHER AREAS THAT WE'RE PLANNING IN.

A LOT OF IT COMES DOWN TO THE PEOPLE SIDE OF THIS.

AND THERE'S ALSO, BESIDES DEPARTMENT COORDINATION, THERE'S INTERAGENCY COORDINATION, COORDINATION, ESPECIALLY DURING, UM, WINTER WEATHER EVENTS.

WE HAVE TEXDOT TRAVIS COUNTY AND THE CITY ALL OUT THERE TREATING ROADWAYS WELL.

SOME FOR TRAVIS COUNTY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CRISSCROSSING.

THE, THE REGION, UM, T.US THERE.

WE DO SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO STREAMLINE THAT TO WHERE WE'RE NOT CROSSING OVER EACH OTHER, BUT MAYBE WE TAKE ON SHARING SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR OUR DIFFERENT ROADWAYS.

IT'S A LONGER CONVERSATION.

WE HAVE SOME, UM, DIFFERENT PRACTICES, BUT THAT COORDINATION'S REALLY RAMPED UP IN THE PAST FEW YEARS AND GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME.

AND THEN, UM, YEAH, THOSE, THOSE WERE THE MAIN ONES.

AND JUST THE LAST ONE I WOULD SAY IS JUST HOW WE'RE ORGANIZED WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT WITH KIMMY COMING ON BOARD AND HER TEAM THAT ARE HELPING US GET ORGANIZED.

UM, IT'S REALLY, IT USED TO FALL TO JUST A COUPLE OF GROUPS THAT WOULD WORK, THE SIGNAL FOLKS AND SIGNS AND MARKINGS AND STREET AND BRIDGE.

BUT WE'VE BEEN BRINGING IN THOSE SUPPORT SERVICES THAT ARE SO DESPERATELY NEEDED WHEN OUR TEAM IS OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, KEEP THEM RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY NEED.

BUT WE HAVE THIS REPORTING THAT WE NEED TO DO, KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT DID WE DO? HOW ARE WE SERVING THE COMMUNITY, WHEN WERE WE OVER HERE DOING THE, UM, ROADWAY TREATMENTS FOR ICE? AND SO WE BROUGHT THAT BACK ON.

I MEAN, WE'VE BROUGHT THAT INTO THE FOLD AND THAT'S REALLY HELPING US BE MORE EFFICIENT AND PROVIDE A BETTER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THERE'S A, A LOT OF PLANNING THAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT YEAR ROUND.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND GLAD TO ANSWER ANY MORE YOU MAY HAVE.

SO I ACTUALLY, I'D LOVE TO ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON DEBRIS.

'CAUSE I ALSO HAD THE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS TOO.

SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN THERE'S DEBRIS ON THE ROADWAY THAT IS AN IMMEDIATE THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY, I'M THINKING A STORM HAPPENS, A TREE FALLS DOWN, OR EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS WAS A YEAR AGO, A TRUCK HAD DROPPED A SOFA ON AIRPORT BOULEVARD AND EVERYONE HAD TO LIKE QUICKLY GET OVER AND IT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF POPPED UP OUT OF NOWHERE.

IS THAT, DOES TPW RESPOND TO THAT? OR IF IT'S AN IMMEDIATE THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY, IS IT POLICE OR FIRE THAT'S RESPONDING TO IT? YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT, JIM? I MEAN, , WHOEVER'S THE FIRST ON THE SCENE, YEAH, SO USUALLY GONNA BE THE POLICE, THEY'RE GONNA BE THERE AND IF NEEDED, UM, TO MOVE THAT OUTTA THE WAY, THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND, UM, WE WOULD BE THE ONES TO RESPOND TO MOVE THAT OUTTA THE ROADWAY.

SO, AND, AND THEN THIS LEADS ME TO ANOTHER QUESTION, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I I AM AN AVID 3 1 1 USER BIG FAN.

I SEND YOU A LOT OF WORK ORDERS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, AFTER A STORM AND I SEE STUFF, I, I TRY TO TAG IT.

UM, BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE MOVE AND I CALL THREE ONE ONE AND WHEN I CALL 3 1 1, THEY ALWAYS TELL ME TO HANG UP AND DIAL 9 1 1 SO THEY CAN GET A POLICE RESPONSE.

THERE IS THAT, WHICH SEEMS TO ME, YOU KNOW, IT IS KIND OF A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, BUT IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE OVERKILL TO CALL 9 1 1 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A TREE FALLING ON THE ROADWAY.

AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY ALSO SCARES A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE DON'T REALLY WANT TO CALL 9 1 1 IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

UM, I, IS THERE A REASON, DOES THAT LEAD TO A SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER RESPONSE? AND IS THAT A TPW POLICY OR, OR A POLICE POLICY? I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR 3 1 1.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WORK FOR THE DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY, SO WE DO MONITOR THOSE WORK ORDERS THAT COME IN, WHETHER THEY'RE, YOU DO IT BY THE APP OR YOU CALL 'EM IN, THEY ROUTE THEM TO THE DEPARTMENT.

SO IF IT'S DEBRIS IN THE WATERWAYS, THEN IT GOES TO WATERSHED.

IF IT'S DEBRIS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE STREETS, THEN IT, THEN IT WILL COME TO US.

UM, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SPECULATE ON WHY THEY TOLD YOU TO DO THAT.

'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T WORK FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.

BUT ANYTHING TO ADD, JIM N NOTHING TO ADD.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN CHECK INTO.

'CAUSE IT, IT'S A LOT MORE EFFICIENT.

IT AND I GUESS IT'S, THEY'RE MAKING THE DECISION ON IS THIS AN EMERGENCY OR NOT.

AND THEN THEY'RE HAVING YOU CALL 9 1 1.

SO IT MAY BE THE DESCRIPTION AND WE'LL, LET'S LOOK INTO IT AND JUST SEE WHAT THAT PROTOCOL IS TO PUSH IT TO 9 1 1.

ALSO, LAST THING I JUST WANNA ADD, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS, BUT THE, UH, THE ROAD DASHBOARD, THERE'S A VERY POPULAR APP IN AUSTIN THAT TELLS YOU WHETHER IT'S SAFE TO WALK YOUR DOG.

UH, AND IT USES THAT DATA SO IT PULLS THE SURFACE TEMPERATURE DATA THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AND IT TELLS YOU IF YOU NEED TO PUT SHOES ON YOUR DOG.

I USE IT EVERY DAY, AT LEAST IN THE SUMMER.

SO THEY'RE COOL USES FOR THAT.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

AND I WILL HAVE TO CHECK IT FOR MY DOGS.

I JUST, THEY'RE LITTLE.

I JUST PICKED THEM UP WHEN IT'S HOT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR COMING.

WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE THESE TOURS OF TPW GETTING TO KNOW WHAT'S NEW AND, AND LEARNING ABOUT DEPARTMENTS WE MAYBE DIDN'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT BEFORE.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH, THIS WAS GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR INVITING US.

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GONNA CALL, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO PROBABLY DO AGENDA ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE TOGETHER.

UM, I'M

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SO, UM, I'M GONNA CALL UP FOR OUR LAST DISCUSSION ITEM, UH, DISCUSSION ON AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, UH, KRISTEN BRAY FROM TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, AND THEN FOR LOGISTICAL PURPOSES, LET'S CONSIDER THIS, UH, BOTH THE, THE DISCUSSION AND THEN, UH, THE DISCUSSION APPROVAL OF, UH, COMMENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION OF MOTOR VEHICLE TRA DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES ON AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE RULES ADOPTION.

UH, SO AGENDA ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE HERE, UM, FEEL FREE TO TAKE IT AWAY.

THANKS FOR COMING.

THANKS.

I'M JUST WAITING FOR MY PRESENTATION.

REQUEST REVIEW OF ANY FINAL DETERMINATION THE STATE MAKES AS WELL AS ESCALATE TO A HEARING.

HI, I AM KRISTEN BRAY.

I AM A BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANT WITH TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS, AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE FOR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

SO WHAT IS STILL TRUE IS THAT CITIES CANNOT REGULATE OR PERMIT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES IN ANY WAY.

UM, IN 2017, THE STATE PASSED AN UPDATE TO ITS TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT PREEMPTED ANY KIND OF REGULATION ANTICIPATING IN THE FUTURE THAT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES WOULD BE OPERATING HERE IN TEXAS.

IN THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE STATE PASSED, UH, SB 28 0 7, WHICH WILL GO INTO EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST THIS YEAR THE RULES ARE STILL BEING FINALIZED AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY BE, YOU KNOW, MORE RELEVANT IN EARLY 2026.

BUT THIS LAW ACTUALLY PROVIDES, UH, SOME REGULATORY AUTHORITY IN TEXAS.

SO, UH, NOW THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PERMIT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE COMPANIES, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY DONE HERE.

UM, SO ANY AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE COMPANY THAT WANTS TO OPERATE COMMERCIALLY IN TEXAS WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET A PERMIT THROUGH THE SYSTEM, AND IT ALSO GIVES THE DMV THE AUTHORITY TO SUSPEND, REVOKE, OR CANCEL THAT PERMIT OF OPERATIONS.

AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UH, AV COMPANIES WILL NEED TO PROVIDE TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY A FIRST RESPONDER PLAN, AND THAT WILL INCLUDE HOW FIRST RESPONDERS CAN COMMUNICATE WITH AV FLEET SUPPORT STAFF WHEN NEEDED, UM, HOW TO SAFELY REMOVE THE AV FROM THE ROAD AND HOW TO TOW IT BECAUSE, UH, SOME OF THEM MAY REQUIRE FLATBED TRUCKS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE ACTUALLY, UH, WINCHED UP BY A NORMAL TOW TRUCK.

AND IT WILL ALSO HAVE, UM, A WAY FOR FIRST RESPONDERS TO RECOGNIZE WHETHER THE AV IS IN AUTONOMOUS MODE, WHICH IS A REALLY BIG DEAL, MEANING YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU'RE COMING IN A SCENE, UH, AN EMERGENCY SCENE AND THERE IS AN AV AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT MIGHT MOVE UNEXPECTEDLY.

THAT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

SO FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, HAVING A WAY TO DETERMINE WHETHER UH, AN AV IS IN AV OR MANUAL MODE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THE DMV HAS PUBLISHED ITS PROPOSED RULES RELATED TO SB 28 0 7 ON THE TEXAS REGISTER AS OF JULY 25TH.

THERE ARE TWO SUB CHAPTERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE THAT WILL BE UPDATED, UH, CHAPTER TWO 20, WHICH IS RELATED, UH, TO AU AUTOMATED MOTOR VEHICLES.

AND THAT IS WHAT THE STATE CALLS AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

UM, AND THIS PORTION DETAILS KIND OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS USING THE STATE'S DESIGNATED SYSTEM FOR, UH, SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION.

AV COMPANIES WILL ALSO NEED TO IDENTIFY AN AUTHORIZATION HOLDER, AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE PERSON, UH, AT THAT AV COMPANY WHO WILL HOLD THE PERMIT FOR OPERATING IN TEXAS.

AND, UH, THE STATE ALSO REQUIRES FOR VEHICLE FLEET INFORMATION, UH, TO BE GIVEN.

SO THE VIN NUMBERS, UM, VINS, UH, MAKE MODEL AND YEAR OF ALL VEHICLES THAT WILL BE OPERATING HERE.

UH, SO THAT IS THE MAJOR PART OF CHAPTER TWO 20 RULES.

UH, CHAPTER 2 24 IS MORE RELATED TO THE ADJUDICATED PRACTICE AND PRO, UH, PROCEDURE THAT, UH, WILL HAPPEN, UH, AND IS MORE REGULATORY.

SO FOR, UH, THE STATE, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SAY SUSPEND OR CANCEL OR REVOKE A PERMIT, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE A NOTICE OF INTENT TO AV COMPANIES, LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT EVIDENCE THEY HAVE, UM, THAT THEIR, UH, VEHICLES ARE EITHER NOT IN SAFE OPERATIONAL CONDITION OR THAT THEY ARE ENDANGERING PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THIS IS TRUE IF THEY WANT TO EITHER, UH, PULL THE PERMIT OR IF THEY WANNA IMPOSE SOME OTHER RESTRICTION ON THEM, THE AV COMPANY WILL THEN HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME TO CORRECT THOSE CONCERNS.

AND THIS CHAPTER ALSO SPECIFIES THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, UM,

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SO AS OF NOW, THERE UH, ARE LESS THAN 30 DAYS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PORTION OF THE PROPOSED RULES.

IT ENDS ON AUGUST 25TH AT 5:00 PM AND THE CITY'S, UH, INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS OFFICE IS COMPILING ALL COMMENTS ON BEHALF OF CITY DEPARTMENTS.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR, UH, COMMENTS TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT, PLEASE EMAIL CARRIE ROGERS.

SO, UH, EVS AND AUSTIN HAVE TYPICALLY OPERATED WITHIN THREE PHASES IN OUR EXPERIENCE.

UH, THERE IS THE MAPPING PHASE, WHICH IS WHERE THE AV IS DRIVEN BY A PERSON ACROSS THE AREA THAT THEY INTEND TO OPERATE IT IN.

AND IT USES, UH, THE SENSORS ON THE VEHICLE TO COLLECT A LOT OF DATA, WHICH IS THEN COMPILED INTO A VERY DETAILED MAP.

UH, WE THEN MOVE ON TO THE TESTING PHASE.

GENERALLY THIS IS THE AV DRIVING ITSELF AUTONOMOUSLY, AND THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE A SAFETY DRIVER OR MONITOR PRESENT IN THE VEHICLE AS A PRECAUTION IN CASE THEY NEED TO TAKE IT OVER.

IF THEY NOTICE SOMETHING, UM, GOING AWRY OR UNEXPECTED, THEN THEY GENERALLY MOVE TO DEPLOYMENT.

AND THIS IS THE, UH, AV OPERATING FULLY AUTONOMOUSLY ON THE ROAD AND ACCEPTING COMMERCIAL PASSENGERS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE FIVE AV COMPANIES THAT ARE, UH, OPERATING IN AUSTIN, TWO OF WHICH WE CONSIDER TO BE DEPLOYED.

UH, THAT'S OF COURSE WAYMO WHO HAS JAGUAR IPACE AND HAS A BIT OVER 100 CARS OPERATING HERE.

AND THEN TESLA, WHO'S HEADQUARTERED HERE, THEY USE A MODEL Y WITH AN UNSUPERVISED FULL SELF-DRIVING, UM, MECHANISM ESSENTIALLY.

AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 20 OF THE ROBO TAXIS, UH, ON AUSTIN STREETS.

WE ALSO HAVE ZOOX, UH, THEIR MAPPING AND TESTING VEHICLE IS THE TOYOTA HIGHLANDER WITH THE COLORFUL WRAP AT THE END.

AND THERE ARE AROUND 20 OF THOSE HERE.

WHEN THEY DEPLOY, THEY'LL ACTUALLY USE THE TEAL, UH, ROBO TAXI THAT YOU SEE.

THIS IS A PURPOSE-BUILT VEHICLE, SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY STEERING, UH, WHEEL OR OTHER HUMAN CONTROL, SO NO PEDALS, UM, AND IS ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES THAT WILL REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF INFORMATION FOR HOW TO TOW IT, HOW TO MOVE IT WHEN THERE ARE NO, UH, HUMAN CONTROLS IN THE CAR.

UH, VOLKSWAGEN, A DMT IS ALSO HEADQUARTERED HERE.

THEY USE THEIR ID BUZZ AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 12 VEHICLES, UH, DRIVING AROUND TOWN.

AND THEN THERE IS A V RIDE THAT USES, UH, HYUNDAI IONIC FIVE, AND THERE ARE AROUND 40 VEHICLES.

BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, CRUISE IN 2023, THE CITY HAD TO BE PRETTY PROACTIVE IN HOW WE RESPOND TO AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

SO WE'VE CREATED A COALITION OF DEPARTMENTS, UH, KNOWN AS OUR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE SAFETY WORKING GROUP.

AND THIS CONSISTS OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, SO FIRE, POLICE, EMS, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.

WE ALSO, UH, WORK WITH OUR AIRPORT, UM, BECAUSE OF COURSE THAT'S A BIG GOAL FOR AV COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THERE.

UH, AND WE REGULARLY CONSULT WITH OUR LAW DEPARTMENT, AND THE GROUP HAS A FEW DIFFERENT GOALS.

WE WANNA PREPARE AND TRAIN FIRST RESPONDERS FOR ANY INCIDENTS THAT MAY INVOLVE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

WE FACILITATE COMMUNICATION AS WELL WITH AV COMPANIES.

UM, AND THIS CAN BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IT A LITTLE, UH, IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, AND WE ALSO COLLECT DATA ABOUT ANY INCIDENTS INVOLVING AVS THAT OCCUR IN AUSTIN.

UH, AND OUR GOAL IS TO STANDARDIZE DOCUMENTATION, HOW THE CITY, YOU KNOW, RESPONDS TO IT, WHAT DEPARTMENTS NEED TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE, UH, STAFF IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, WE ALSO STANDARDIZE THIS WITH OTHER PEER CITIES THAT HAVE AV DEPLOYMENTS.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY AN AV FEDERAL, UH, FRAMEWORK.

SO BEING ABLE TO TRY AND MAKE IT EASY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, WAYMO WHO'S OPERATING MULTIPLE CITIES OR SAY TESLA, THAT WILL BE EXPANDING, UH, IN ZOOX, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ALSO IN THE BAY AREA.

AND MOVING TO SEATTLE, WE WANNA MAKE IT AS EASY FOR THEM AS POSSIBLE BY HAVING VERY SIMILAR, UH, STANDARDS.

WE PROVIDE A LOT OF INFORMATION, UH, PREEMPTIVELY TO HELP SUPPORT THE SAFE OPERATIONS OF ABS HERE.

SO SOME OF THAT, UH, IS RELATED TO OUR EXPERIENCE IN 2023.

WE, UH, ASK FOR AV COMPANIES TO SET UP A GEOFENCE OR AN AV LIKE AVOIDANCE ZONES, UH, FOR CERTAIN VITAL INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND TOWN.

SO WE ASK THAT THEY DON'T BLOCK THE INGRESS OR RESS OF HOSPITALS.

FIRE POLICE AND EMS STATIONS ARE ALSO VERY PROACTIVE ABOUT GIVING THEM INFORMATION RELATED TO SPECIAL EVENTS.

SO ANY ANTICIPATED ROAD CLOSURES FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, WE HAVE A FEW BIG MEETINGS EVERY

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YEAR, UH, IN THE FALL AND THE SPRING BEFORE, UM, SAY, YOU KNOW, SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, UH, AS WELL AS FOR ANY, LIKE, ONE-OFF MEETINGS.

UM, LIKE FOR MLS, WE HAD A PREP MEETING WITH THE DEPLOYED COMPANY SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE TO AVOID IN LIKE THE Q2 AREA OR AT AUDITORIUM SHORES WHERE THERE WERE A LOT OF EVENTS HAPPENING.

AND WE'LL BE HAVING A MEETING, UH, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, UH, ABOUT FALL EVENTS HAPPENING.

SO THAT'LL BE F1, UH, SOCCER AS WELL.

UH, ECL MOVE-IN DAY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, AS WELL AS OF COURSE, UH, FOOTBALL.

ALSO ON THIS MAP IS THE LOCATION OF OUR SCHOOL AND SCHOOL ZONES, SO THAT A B COMPANIES CAN BE AWARE OF THE STREETS WHERE THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION IN SPEED WHEN THOSE SCHOOL ZONES ARE ACTIVE.

UH, ANOTHER WAY THAT WE COMMUNICATE WITH AV COMPANIES IS PROVIDING THEM INFORMATION ABOUT OUR EMERGENCY LOCATIONS.

UH, SO FOR ANY HIGH PRIORITY FIRE DEPARTMENT CALLS, WHICH WILL HAVE MULTIPLE APPARATUSES RESPONDING TO IT, WE SEND THEM AN EMAIL WITH OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM.

AND ESSENTIALLY THAT EMAIL CONTAINS THE INCIDENT TYPE, UM, AS WELL AS THE LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE, AS WELL AS HOW MANY APPARATUSES ARE RESPONDING TO THE VEHICLE.

AND WE ASK THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY SET UP A GEOFENCE AROUND THAT EMERGENCY LOCATION TO AVOID IT, UM, WITH A RADIUS 1000 FEET FOR A DURATION OF ONE HOUR.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE STANDARDIZED WITH SAN FRANCISCO, UH, AND PHOENIX, AS WELL AS LOS ANGELES, WHO ALL, UH, HAVE A B DEPLOYMENTS AS WELL.

FOR EPD HIGH PRIORITY CALLS, WE ACTUALLY ASK FOR THEM TO MONITOR THE A PDX ACCOUNT.

UM, AS THEN WE'LL REGULARLY TWEET OUT ANYTHING THAT MIGHT, UH, AFFECT TRAFFIC OR THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE COLLECT IS, UH, NOT JUST FROM SAY 3 1 1, BUT FROM OUR OWN, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS.

WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE AVS WITH A CITATION FOR ANY MOVING VIOLATIONS THAT THEY COMMIT, BUT IT'S NOT AS EASY AS JUST HANDING THEM A TICKET.

THERE IS A SOMEWHAT CUMBERSOME PROCESS, UH, JUST BASED ON THE WAY OUR TRANSPORTATION CODE IS WRITTEN.

SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY AN OFFICER WILL NEED TO, UH, COMPLETE AN AFFIDAVIT OF WHAT HAPPENED AND PROVIDED TO OUR LIEUTENANT ON OUR AV SAFETY WORKING GROUP.

HE THEN, UM, BINDS THE REGISTERED AGENT FOR THE AV COMPANY, COMPLETES THE AFFIDAVIT, SWEARS TO THE AFFIDAVIT, AND THEN SENDS IT TO MUNICIPAL COURT WHO WILL ACTUALLY PROCESS IT AND THEN SEND TO THE AB COMPANY.

SO WE HAVE, UM, AND A PD OF COURSE, CAN SPEAK BETTER TO THIS, BUT IT IS A VERY CUMBERSOME PROCESS FOR SOMETHING THAT'S USUALLY VERY SIMPLE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A DRIVER, UH, FOR AVS.

WE ARE ABLE TO CITE THEM FOR PARKING, UH, VIOLATIONS, HOWEVER, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST WRITE TO THE CAR AND NOT TO A DRIVER.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS PICTURE HERE.

UH, AND THESE CITATIONS AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING USEFUL DATA AS TO WHERE MAYBE PARKING SIGNS, UH, NO PARKING SIGNS MAY NOT BE AS VISIBLE, OR IF THERE ARE ANY LIKE, CONCERNS HAPPENING, SAY IN A RIGHT OF WAY OR TIMING OF A LIGHT OR SOMETHING.

UH, IT JUST HELPS KEEP AVS ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR, UH, TRAFFIC AND LOCAL LAWS.

THIS IS A SCREEN CAPTURE OF, UH, THE DOCUMENTED AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE INCIDENTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN AUSTIN.

UH, THIS WAS UPDATED AS OF JULY 25TH, SO IT SHOWS 128 INCIDENTS.

I BELIEVE WE'RE AT 130, AND THIS IS, UH, SINCE WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THIS DATA OF IN, UH, JULY, 2023.

SO ALL OF THE INFORMATION ON HERE HAS BEEN DIRECTLY REPORTED TO THE CITY.

WE'RE NOT SCOURING SOCIAL MEDIA TRYING TO FIND VIRAL VIDEOS OF AVS DOING WEIRD THINGS.

WE REALLY ARE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCES FOR THAT, OF COURSE, UH, TO VERIFY ALL INCIDENTS.

UM, BUT WHEN SOMEBODY REPORTS TO US, WE DO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

WE ASK THEM AS WELL TO PROVIDE THE DATE, TIME, AND LOCATION.

UM, AND THAT'S FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE, WE WANNA REACH OUT TO THE AV COMPANY AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT, UH, WAS REPORTED TO US.

AND HAVING THAT INFORMATION HELPS THEM LOCATE WHICH CAR AND, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THEIR FOOTAGE AND DETERMINE ANY CORRECTIVE ACTION THAT THEY MAY NEED TO TAKE.

UH, BUT SECOND, IT'S SO THAT WE, WE CAN POPULATE THIS MAP, AND THIS MAP IS A PRETTY VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR US BECAUSE IT'LL HELP US, UH, FIND IF THERE ARE ANY LIKE HOTSPOTS.

I KNOW, UM, IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE, BUT SOME OF THE BIGGER HOTSPOTS, UH, IN AUSTIN SO FAR HAVE BEEN AROUND LIKE THE MOODY CENTER AND DKR STADIUM, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, UM, AND MAYBE A LOT OF LIKE TRAFFIC DIVERSIONS.

SO, UH, KNOWING THIS INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME JUST HELPS US PLAN BETTER AND

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HELPS AV COMPANIES OPERATE MORE SAFELY.

AND THE TYPE OF INCIDENT COMES FROM THE NARRATIVE OF WHAT THE PERSON REPORTED TO US.

IF THEY SAID, AN AV ALMOST HIT MY DOG, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A NEAR MISS.

IF THEY LET US KNOW THAT AN AV WAS BLOCKING TRAFFIC WHILE IT WAS MAYBE PICKING UP OR LETTING SOMEONE OFF, THEN THAT'S HOW THAT'S CATEGORIZED.

SO MOST OF THEM ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IGNORING A PD IS RELATED TO HAND SIGNALS, AND THAT HAPPENS A LOT AT OUR SPECIAL EVENTS.

UH, THEY MAY NOT, UH, UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT THE OFFICER IS TRYING TO TELL THEM.

UH, WE'VE ALSO NOTICED THIS, IF AN OFFICER IS DIRECTING ANY AVS AGAINST THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AS, UH, MOST AVS WILL NOT GO THROUGH A RED LIGHT, EVEN IF BEING DIRECTED TO DO SO BY A POLICE OFFICER.

SO WE USE THIS DATA IN A COUPLE OF WAYS.

I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE PROVIDE ONGOING FEEDBACK TO AV COMPANIES.

UH, THIS IS A PICTURE OF A WAYMO THAT'S GETTING STUCK IN THE MAY 28TH, UH, FLOOD THAT OCCURRED HERE ON ROSEWOOD AND CONE.

AND OF COURSE, WHEN THAT WAS REPORTED TO US, WE, UH, TALKED TO WAYMO ABOUT IT AND, AND HAD AN ENTIRE MEETING ABOUT THEIR WEATHER PROCESSES AND ENSURING THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING WHAT HAPPENS HERE LOCALLY.

UH, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT NOAH HAS ISSUED THAT KIND OF FLOOD WARNING FOR.

UM, WE USE THE MAP TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE ISSUES ARE OCCURRING AND SEE IF THERE'S A PATTERN AND DETERMINE IF MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO INFRASTRUCTURE WISE THAT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER, NOT JUST FOR AV COMPANIES TO OPERATE THEIR VEHICLES, BUT FOR HUMAN DRIVERS AS WELL.

IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, STRIFE A LANE, OR IF WE CAN REDO A PAVEMENT MARKING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO, UM, OTHER TIMES IT MIGHT BE AN OCCLUDED SIGN.

AND WE'VE HAD, UH, AV COMPANIES ACTUALLY GIVE US SOME OF THIS INFORMATION WHEN THEY NOTICE, UH, IT AS THEIR VEHICLES DRIVE AROUND.

WE ALSO COLLABORATE WITH AV COMPANIES TO RESOLVE CONCERNS WHEN WE RECEIVE THESE KINDS OF, UH, REPORTS.

SOMETIMES IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AVS IDLING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

OTHER TIMES IT MAY BE RELATED TO, UH, RULES AROUND SCHOOL PICKUP AND DROP OFF.

A LOT OF THOSE ARE KIND OF UNOFFICIAL.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, AN AV COMPANY, UH, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT IN A CERTAIN STREET.

THINGS TURN INTO, SAY A, LIKE AN UNOFFICIAL ONE WAY.

SO WE ARE ACTUALLY DOCUMENTING SOME OF THESE PROCESSES TO HELP MAKE IT EASIER FOR AV COMPANIES TO OPERATE SAFELY AROUND LIKE SCHOOL PICKUP AND DROP OFF.

WE SHARE THIS INFORMATION AS WELL WITH FEDERAL AND STATE AGENCIES.

THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY OF TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, OR NHTSA, IS ONE OF OUR, UH, BIGGEST PARTNERS FOR THAT.

THEY HAVE A DIVISION THAT'S SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO, UH, INVESTIGATING AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AND ANY OF THEIR PROBLEMS. SO THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.

WE ALSO REGULARLY SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH T WHO'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PARTNERS.

SO THE COLLABORATION DOESN'T STOP JUST AT THE AGENCY LEVEL.

UH, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE HOSTED AN ANNUAL AB STAKEHOLDER MEETING THAT HAD AN AV, UM, EXHIBIT OR PETTING ZOO.

UH, AND WE INVITED, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

UH, WE INVITED SOME LOCAL AND REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AGENCIES, SOME ADVOCACY GROUPS, AND, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH, INCLUDING A ISD, TEXAS SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND, UH, AND VISUALLY IMPAIRED, AS WELL AS THE TEXAS SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF, UH, AND, UH, OTHER PARTNERS SUCH AS MOVABILITY.

AND THIS JUST HELPS EVERYBODY KIND OF LEARN LIKE WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF AV DEPLOYMENTS HERE IN AUSTIN, HOW THE CITY HAS BEEN RESPONDING, AND ALSO GIVES EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES FROM THE COMPANY.

UM, THEY WILL PROVIDE A VEHICLE AND HAVE STAFF THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE.

WE WORK PRETTY REGULARLY WITH CAP METRO, A ISD AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ON SHARING PROCEDURES AND INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EVENTS.

UH, THEY'RE PART OF OUR, UM, SPRING AND FALL MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, UH, REGARDING THAT.

WE ALSO COMMUNICATE WITH STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS, UM, IN ADDITION TO TXDOT AND NITSA.

WE RECENTLY HELPED THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION PLAN A WORKSHOP EVENT HERE TWO, THREE WEEKS AGO, UH, RELATED ALL TO AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES OPERATING IN TEXAS, UH, AND WHAT IT MAY MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF, YOU KNOW, OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

AND, UH, MY BOSS, RACHEL CASTING NOLI, IS, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THE SOCIETY OF AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERS, WHICH SETS INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR AUTONOMOUS

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VEHICLES.

UM, SHE'S PART OF THE SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE AND IS ALSO, UM, THE CHAIR FOR THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE GROUP, UH, FOR THE NATIONAL, UH, ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION THERE, NOT JUST WITH CITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE A B DEPLOYMENTS, BUT, UH, CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED FOR FUTURE DEPLOYMENTS AS WELL AS, UH, CITIES WHO JUST WANT TO PREPARE AIR.

SO, UM, THANK YOU.

IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO REPORT SOMETHING TO 3 1 1, AS I'VE HEARD YOU'RE A FAN, UH, YOU CAN CALL 3 1 1 OR YOU CAN GO TO THE APP AND NAVIGATE TO NON-EMERGENCY VEHICLE ISSUES.

WE ALSO ACCEPT, UH, REPORTS TO OUR RESOURCE ACCOUNT, COA AV WORKING GROUP@AUSTINTEXAS.GOV, AND OUR WEBPAGE IS WHERE YOU CAN FIND OUR INCIDENT DASHBOARD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

AND I FEEL THE NEED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I WORK A LOT ON THESE ISSUES, AND YOU GUYS ARE VERY MUCH RECOGNIZED ACROSS THE STATE AND FRANKLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR WHAT INCREDIBLE JOB YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AT SETTING UP THIS PROGRAM UNDER A VERY DIFFICULT REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT WITH VERY FEW TOOLS.

UM, SO IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.

UM, I, I'D LIKE TO KICK THINGS OFF WITH SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, UM, DATA.

'CAUSE THAT IS ONE THING, UH, THAT THE NEW STATE LAW DOESN'T CHANGE.

THERE ISN'T REALLY ANY REQUIREMENT FOR ACTIVE DATA SHARING THAT SOME OTHER STATES HAVE.

UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, UH, THE COMPANIES AND YOU REALLY WORK ON BUILDING THOSE OF THE TWO THAT ARE CURRENTLY DEPLOYED.

UM, DID BOTH OF THEM SUBMIT A FIRST RESPONDER INTERACTION PLAN AND DO FIRST RESPONDER TRAINING BEFORE THEY DID FULL DEPLOYMENT? SO, WAYMO ALREADY HAD A PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED AND DID SUBMIT, UH, BEFORE FULLY DEPLOYING.

UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AB COMPANIES WILL COME HERE AND BE PROACTIVE ABOUT REACHING OUT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY WANNA SEE, WELL, THERE WERE NO RULES HERE, , AND WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.

BUT THEY DO WANNA ESTABLISH THAT POINT OF CONTACT, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL NEED AT ANY POINT IN TIME.

UH, TESLA BEFORE DEPLOYING DID ALSO DEVELOP THEIRS, UM, THEIR FIRST RESPONDER PLAN, AND BOTH HAVE POSTED NUMEROUS TRAININGS WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AV COM AVS HAVE DIFFERENT, LIKE CUT POINTS FOR WHERE IT'S SAFE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO CUT INTO JUST BASED ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, LIKE LIDAR AND RADAR AND THINGS THAT ARE LIKE BUILT INTO THE CAR AND WITH THE ELECTRIFICATION OF THE CAR.

SO BOTH OF THEM HAVE PROVIDED WHAT, UH, WE'VE ASKED FOR.

THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

AND THEN, UM, ARE ANY OF THE TWO THAT ARE DEPLOYED, ARE ANY OF THEM VOLUNTARILY SHARING DATA ON COLLISIONS, INCIDENTS OR VEHICLE MILES TRAVEL? THEY DO SHARE INFORMATION WITH US.

UM, IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS.

UH, THEY'LL LET US KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EXPANSIONS ANY CHANGES IN THEIR, UH, OPERATIONAL DESIGN DOMAIN ESSENTIALLY.

SO IF THEY EXPAND TO A NEW AREA, THEY'LL GIVE US A HEADS UP.

THEY'VE ALSO PROVIDED US WITH, UM, GENERAL ESTIMATIONS FOR VEHICLE COUNT, WHICH IS WHAT I PUT ON THE SLIDE.

UH, AND, UH, THEY WILL BE FORTHCOMING ABOUT LIKE CERTAIN, UH, ISSUES THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T BECOME NEWSWORTHY YET.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST TRUE OF THE DEPLOYED COMPANIES, BUT FOR OTHER COMPANIES AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE HAD SOME, UH, DATA SHARING, BUT VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED ISN'T SOMETHING LIKE SPECIFIC THAT THEY'LL GIVE US.

UH, WAYMO PUBLISHES A LOT OF INFORMATION, UH, INCLUDING THEIR COLLISIONS THAT THEY REPORTED TO THE SGO, UH, WELL STANDARD GENERAL ORDER AS, UH, FOR NSA'S REQUIREMENTS MM-HMM .

SO WE ARE ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION THAT WAY.

AND SO, SO WAYMO PROVIDES THE NON REDACTED COPY OF THE, THE NSA REQUIREMENTS THAT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE COLLISION.

THEY SHOW THE GENERAL INTERSECTION OKAY.

OF WHERE IT OCCURRED, AS WELL AS THE SGO NUMBERS.

SO WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD THE SGO REPORT, YOU CAN MATCH IT UP THAT WAY.

AND IT, FUNNY ENOUGH, MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT OPERATIONAL DESIGN DOMAIN.

SO, UM, GOOD TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE SHARING LOCATION.

ARE THEY ALSO SHARING THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH THEY PLAN TO OPERATE AND WON'T OPERATE WHEN, UH, VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, COMPANY BY COMPANY, A LOT OF TIMES THEY MAY REACH OUT AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, TEST IN WET WEATHER OR SOMETHING.

OR SOMETIMES THEY'LL JUST DO IT ANYWAY.

SO IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON, UH, THE COMPANY.

THEY HAVE, UH, A LOT OF TIMES THEY WILL LET US KNOW IF THEY ARE TESTING, SAY, UH, LIKE HIGHER SPEEDS.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY, IT DEPENDS REALLY.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE REPORTED LIKE MINOR COLLISIONS.

AND THEN OF THE, THE THREE COMPANIES THAT ARE, ARE TESTING OR MAPPING, UM, ARE ANY OF THEM PROVIDING YOU WITH ANY DATA ON, UH, COLLISIONS, INCIDENTS, DISENGAGEMENTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THEY'RE NOT SUPER FORTHCOMING ABOUT, UM, EVERY, EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN, UH, I GUESS NOTICING WITH THEIR VEHICLES.

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THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES TO THE STANDARD, UH, GENERAL ORDER.

SO, UH, COLLISION REPORTING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL WILL ALSO, UH, BE CHANGING AND WILL REQUIRE, I BELIEVE IT'S A $1,000 OR MORE, UM, THRESHOLD FOR DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE, UH, OR A PERSON BEING INJURED, WHICH WASN'T THE CASE BEFORE.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE MAY BE LESS COLLISIONS REPORTED OVERALL IN THAT WAY.

WHICH MAY MEAN LESS DATA THAT WE GET.

AND THEN LAST QUESTION.

WHEN TESLA ANNOUNCED ROBO TAXII, THEY LAUNCHED WITH A, I GUESS, SAFETY DRIVER'S IN THE RIGHT WORD, A SAFETY PASSENGER IN THE FRONT SEAT.

DID, DO YOU, ARE THEY TELLING YOU WHETHER THEY'RE OPERATING WITH A SAFETY PASSENGER OR NOT? AND DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL OPERATING THAT WAY? I BELIEVE THEY ARE STILL OPERATING THAT WAY.

THEY HAVE LET US KNOW WHEN, UH, THAT SAFETY MONITOR HAS BEEN REMOVED.

UM, BUT SO FAR THERE IS STILL A PERSON IN MANY OF THE RIDES.

THAT'S ALL FANTASTIC INFORMATION.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS? YEAH, SO THIS IS SORT OF LOOKING AHEAD TO THE ITEM.

UM, I GUESS WE'RE SORT OF DOING FOUR AND FIVE TOGETHER, BUT I'M ON THE FOUR DISCUSSION.

UM, SO I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME RULES, A PROPOSED RULE SET THAT WAS PUBLISHED, UM, UH, FROM THE STATE, UH, DMVI BELIEVE, IS THAT, DID I HAVE THAT RIGHT, KRISTEN? YEAH.

UM, STATE DMV AND, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT IN AUGUST 25TH, WHICH OF COURSE FOR COMMISSIONERS, I'LL NOTE WOULD BE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.

UM, DOES, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, I MEAN, I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THESE RULES RIGHT NOW.

I THINK I'M LOOKING AT THE RULES AND THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF MEATY STUFF IN THERE.

IT'S BASICALLY PROVIDING, UM, THE DOCUMENTS WHICH WERE, UM, DETAILED ON YOUR, I BELIEVE YOUR SECOND OR THIRD SLIDE, UM, OR SECOND SLIDE THAT WOULD, UM, UH, TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD GET THE PERMITS MM-HMM .

AND THEY WOULD PROVIDE THESE DOCUMENTS ABOUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF, HOW TO REMOVE THE VEHICLE, AND HOW TO RECOGNIZE THE VEHICLE AS AUTONOMOUS.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S A LOT, UH, IN THE PROPOSED RULE SETS OTHER THAN THAT IT, WOULD THAT BE YOUR ASSESSMENT? LIKE FOR AS FROM THE CITY, FROM THE CITY SIDE? LIKE HOW DO YOU ASSESS THOSE STATE RULES, DO YOU FEEL? COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL? I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE'S STILL MORE TO BE FLESHED OUT.

AND FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING THERE, UH, MAY BE PROPOSED RULES FOR THE DPS PORTION OF THIS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVED IN ALL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, THE TEXAS DMV BOARD MET IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS JULY 10TH, AND PUBLISHED SOME OF THE SAME INFORMATION BEFORE IT WAS PUBLISHED ON THE REGISTER, WHICH HAS A BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WHAT IS ON THE TEXAS REGISTER IS MORE OF A SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO, RATHER THAN ALL OF THE HARD AND FAST RULES.

WE HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, THAT IT IS STILL, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S IN ITS INFANCY AND THAT IF NEEDED, THERE CAN ALWAYS BE CLARIFICATION FROM, UH, THE STATE LEDGE AS TO, UM, ANY GAPS THAT THERE MIGHT BE.

AND WHY THAT'S NOT, I THINK, MORE FIRM, BUT ALSO I THINK IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT FEELS SOMETIMES LIKE A BIT ONE-SIDED RELATIONSHIP HERE WITH AB COMPANIES.

SO IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN WITH A QUESTION.

I THINK THIS, THIS BUILDS ON, UM, SPENCER'S QUESTIONS, WHICH I THINK WERE REALLY GOOD.

AND I WAS, I WAS GONNA ASK, UH, SIMILAR ONES.

AND I JUST, FIRST OF ALL JUST ECHO THE, THE GRATITUDE FOR THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IN THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH, WHICH WAS, WAS ALSO EXCELLENT.

UM, ONE THING I WAS STRUCK BY IN YOUR PRESENTATION WAS, AND I THINK YOU, YOU ACTUALLY EVEN SAID LIKE, THE, THE PROCESS OF WRITING A TICKET IS LIKE CUMBERSOME, RIGHT? IT BECAUSE 'CAUSE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THAT PROCESS.

AND WHEN YOU WERE KIND OF DESCRIBING ALL THE THINGS THE CITY IS DOING TO TRY AND GET A HANDLE ON THIS AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE AB DEPLOYMENT IS DONE SAFELY.

I, I WAS STRUCK BY I THINK THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND, YOU KNOW, THE ASSOCIATED COSTS THAT THE CITY IS, IS INCURRING TO DO, TO DO THESE THINGS.

AND I GUESS I'M, I'M WONDERING, UM, ON SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE INCIDENTS, YOU KNOW, IN THE REPORTING THAT'S BEING DONE BY CITIZENS, THIS I THINK, BUILDS ON SPENCER'S QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, IS THERE AN UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE HOW THE, HOW THE AB COMPANIES ARE PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION TO YOU? LIKE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S HAPPENING SOMEWHAT AD HOC AND THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY, UH, A FIRM UNDERSTANDING OF THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING PROACTIVELY, LIKE, INFORMATION ON INCIDENTS.

AND I, AND I, I'M INTERESTED IN LIKE, THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY

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UM, I'M CURIOUS IF YOU COULD JUST MAYBE SPEAK TO THAT PERCEPTION, IF THAT'S CORRECT, IF IT'S NOT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW YOU MIGHT FORM A MORE COLLABORATIVE, COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH THE COMPANIES, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THEM IN, IN THE AV WORKING GROUP THAT, THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

WE DO SAFETY WORKING GROUP, RIGHT? UH, WE DO HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE VARIOUS AV COMPANIES WHEN WE NOTICED, YOU KNOW, TRENDS IN BEHAVIOR, UM, ESPECIALLY LIKE AFTER THE FLOODING EVENT, UH, THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE ESCALATED SO THAT WAY WE COULD GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD OCCUR AND HOW WE CAN POTENTIALLY AVOID THAT IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AS TO WHETHER AV COMPANIES ARE BEING, UH, MORE, I GUESS, PROACTIVE ABOUT SHARING SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE, UH, MAYBE NOTICED AS A TREND.

UH, YEAH, THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAPPEN IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.

UH, AND WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY, IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, FORCE THAT WE, INSTEAD WE, WE COLLABORATE, WE WANT THIS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP.

AND THE FACT THAT WE SHARE SO MUCH INFORMATION IS JUST BECAUSE WE, UH, WANNA BE ABLE TO HELP SUPPORT THAT SAFETY.

AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO TRY TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON OR NEAR THE ROAD.

UM, AND HOWEVER WE CAN DO THAT, THAT'S TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, MISSION.

SO FOR THIS GROUP TO OPERATE IN THAT WAY, WE DO PROVIDE A LOT OF RESOURCES, AS DOES, UM, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY WORK THAT WE DO.

SO IT'S, UH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

UM, WE DEFINITELY LOVE THAT THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMUNICATION.

UH, HAVING SAID THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH WHAT WE CAN AND, UM, WE HOPE THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH TO SUPPORT OUR GOALS.

YEAH, AND I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE, UM, RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU'RE WORKING UNDER, AND, UH, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO KIND OF BE GOOD PARTNERS AND TAKE A MORE COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP BASED APPROACH.

UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK, AGAIN, THE THING THAT STRIKES ME IN, IN SOME OF THE CONVERSATION HERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT THE CITY HAS TO GO THROUGH, AND I, I WONDER IF THERE ARE WAYS TO GET THE AB COMPANIES TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT, UH, PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE CERTAIN TOOLS OR INFRASTRUCTURE TO KIND OF MAKE SOME OF THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, EASIER ON THE CITY SO THAT THEY CAN BOTH CONTINUE WITH THE EXPERIMENTS THAT THEY'RE DOING WITH DEPLOYMENT.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT THE CITY'S MEETING ITS GOALS.

UH, AND SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH ON TOP OF THAT.

SO APPRECIATE THE WORK THERE.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONGESTION AND UNSAFE SITUATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEBODY WHO GETS FRUSTRATED AND IS PROBABLY ABOUT TO CUT OFF THE PERSON AND THEN LAYING NEXT TO THEM IN ORDER TO GET OUT FROM BEHIND IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, OH, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY THE ENFORCEMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR THINGS LIKE STOPPING TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY? 'CAUSE THE WAY THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IS THAT AS THE SERVICES CONTINUE TO SCALE, THEY TEND TO SCALE MORE IN THE HIGH DENSITY AREAS OF THE CITY.

AND IF WE'RE ALREADY RUNNING INTO ISSUES WITH THEM, STOPPING TRAFFIC AND INTERRUPTING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AT THE SCALE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE EXACERBATED AS WE GO FORWARD.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE CURRENTLY ENFORCING THAT AND, UM, BASICALLY WHAT WE CAN DO AS CITIZENS AS WELL TO BASICALLY HELP THE CITY MONITOR THAT MORE CLOSELY.

SO IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT, UH, FOR PARKING, IT CAN BE A BIT EASIER.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR PARKING ENFORCEMENT WHO ARE, UH, MONITORING THE HIGH DENSITY AREAS AND ARE ABLE TO CITE PRETTY EASILY SINCE THEY CAN JUST GIVE THAT TO THE VEHICLE.

UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT EPD IS DOING TO EDUCATE ITS OWN, UM, POLICE FORCE, I'M, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

AND, UH, LIEUTENANT WHITE, WHO IS OUR, UH, LIEUTENANT OVER HEIGHT ENFORCEMENT, UH, IS OBVIOUSLY NOT HERE, BUT HE CAN PROBABLY, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH THAT AS TO WHAT A PD MAY BE DOING TO TRAIN ITS OFFICERS ON THE ENFORCEMENT PART, WHEN WE RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC, THOUGH, THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE BEGIN HAVING WITH, YOU KNOW, WAYMO OR TESLA OR WHOMEVER.

UM, ESPECIALLY FOR BLOCKING TRAFFIC, SOMETIMES IT MAY BE THAT IT'S A BAD PICKUP AND DROP OFF SPOT.

UH, ONE HOTSPOT THAT WE HAD, UH, FIGURED OUT RECENTLY WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PALMER EVENT CENTER, AND AV, I WON'T NAME IT, BUT AN AV COMPANY WAS ESSENTIALLY STOPPING AT THE STOP BAR AT THE LIGHT ON, UH, BOWLING CREEK AND BARTON SPRINGS.

AND THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD PICK UP AND DROP OFF PEOPLE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BLOCK TRAFFIC IF THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN.

AND THAT CREATES,

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AND IT CAN TAKE UP TO FIVE MINUTES OR SO BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WAYMO WILL BEGIN MOVING.

UM, ONCE A PERSON IS EITHER, UM, INSIDE THEY HAVE THE WHOLE SAFETY SPIEL, UH, THAT THEY GO THROUGH, UH, OR IF IT'S JUST WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO COME PICK THEM UP.

SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY A CONCERN OF OURS.

UH, AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE COMPANIES TO IDENTIFY OTHER AREAS THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR ITS TRAVERSALS, AS THEY CALL IT.

UM, WE'VE HAD REPORTS FROM EVEN, UH, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE HAD AV COMPANIES USING THEIR PRIVATE LOTS OR THEIR, UH, NO PARKING VALET AREAS, UH, AS THESE DESIGNATED SPOTS.

SO THAT'S WHEN WE TALKED TO THE OPERATION PEOPLE TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP RESOLVE IT.

AND WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THAT.

SO, UH, FOR WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, TO TRY AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH LIEUTENANT WHITE AS TO HOW THEY'RE PREPARING, UH, THEIR OFFICERS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HERE IS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE STILL ADDRESSING THIS ON SORT OF A CASE BY CASE BASIS, WHERE WE, AS THE CITY ARE RESPONDING TO WHEN WAYMO STOPS TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE IN THEIR SYSTEM.

UM, THE PRINCIPLE THAT I'VE COME ACROSS A LOT IN MY ENGINEERING WORK HAS BEEN THAT BASICALLY PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME THE WAY IT'S SCORED, RIGHT? AND WE KNOW THAT COMPANIES BASICALLY SCORE BASED ON MONEY.

SO HAVING CITATIONS FOR TRAFFIC STOPPAGES SEEMS LIKE A MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE WAY OF HELPING THESE COMPANIES SYSTEMATIZE THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING GOOD PICKUP AND DROP OFF SPOTS, RATHER THAN HAVING TO PUT THE BURDEN ON THE CITY AND THE CITIZENS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING WHEN A VEHICLE HAS NOT BEHAVED APPROPRIATELY.

I'LL NOTE TOO, UM, AND YOU TOUCHED ON THIS, UM, THIS IS JUST THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS IN CHARGE OF THE FIRST RESPONDER INTERACTION PLAN, WHICH IN TERMS OF RELEVANCE TO THE CITY, I THINK THAT PART IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE RELEVANT BECAUSE THAT'S A, A KEY PART OF THE CITY'S ABILITY TO RESPOND, UM, TO AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, UNDERSTAND THEIR OPERATIONAL DESIGN DOMAIN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE DISCUSSION PART OF THIS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THE, YOU GUYS ARE DOING SUCH A FANTASTIC JOB.

UH, THANK YOU.

IT, IT IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE VERY FEW TOOLS THAT THE STATE HAS GIVEN YOU.

UM, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, WE ARE POSTED FOR, UH, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION IN A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION CIRCULATED.

NO ONE PREPARED ONE IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.

YES, SPENCER, JUST TO ADD, UM, UM, UH, LISTED AS FACILITATOR FOR THE ITEM, AND, UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE WASN'T ONE WE, UM, UH, PERSONALLY I FELT IT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE OPTIMAL HAD THERE BEEN A 60 OR 90 DAY COMMENT PERIOD ON THE PROPOSED RULES.

'CAUSE I THINK WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, UM, WITH THIS MEETING, AND THEN COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND, UM, UH, SEPTEMBER, UH, THAT COULD HAVE PASSED THIS BODY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, ANYONE CAN MAKE A MOTION AT ANY TIME WHEN WE'RE POSTED FOR ACTION AS WE ARE FOR ITEM FIVE.

SO IF SOMEONE PREPARED SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THIS AFTERNOON AND THEY WANNA EMAIL CIRCULATE OR CIRCULATE IT ON PAPER AND DISCUSS IT, I JUST WANNA, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR NEWER COMMISSIONERS, REMIND YOU THAT LIKE ANYONE CAN MAKE A MOTION AT ANY TIME.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF, IN TERMS OF OUR PROCESS, THERE'S A BIG INCENTIVE TO PRECIATE DRAFT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS SO PEOPLE CAN CONSIDER THEM OR THINK ABOUT AMENDMENTS THAT THEY WOULD MAKE OR CHANGES THAT THEY WOULD MAKE.

I THINK IT DEFINITELY, UM, INCREASES OUR EFFECTIVENESS, INCREASES WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN TERMS OF GOOD POLICY.

AND IT ALSO MAKES IT JUST MORE LIKELY THAT A RECOMMENDATION WILL PASS IF PEOPLE HAVE HAD SOME TIME TO CHEW ON IT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE CASE, ESPECIALLY ON THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE A STRONG CONSENSUS ON.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, LIKE I, I DON'T HAVE A PREPARED DRAFT RECOMMENDATION.

I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE ELSE DOES.

UM, IT DOES SOUND LIKE FROM, UM, WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR PRESENTER TODAY THAT THIS WILL BE AN ONGOING ISSUE AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THERE MAY BE ITERATIONS OF THE RULES, UM, OR ONCE WE SEE HOW IMPLEMENTATION IS GOING, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD COMMENT ON LATER.

BUT, UM, UH, CERTAINLY ANYONE IS WELCOME TO SHARE A RECOMMENDATION OR THOUGHTS ON ACTION THAT WE SHOULD TAKE SINCE WE ARE POSTED FOR ACTION FOR ON ITEM FIVE.

BUT, UM, I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

SO, YEAH, AND KRISTEN, YOU SAID WE CAN EMAIL CARRIE ROGERS IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.

YES.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENT DOESN'T CLOSE UNTIL THE 25TH, AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL COMPILING COMMENTS WITHIN THE CITY TO SUBMIT AS A COHESIVE BODY.

AND, AND I THINK

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UM, YOU KNOW, AND WHILE WE'RE PROPOSED FOR DISCUSSION, I, I THINK I'LL JUST ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ANYONE WHO READ THAT WAS MAYBE READ THE RULES WAS MAYBE A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN HOW CLOSELY THEY STUCK TO THE BILL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOT MUCH IMAGINATION, UH, THEN AGAIN, THE BILL WASN'T, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY, UH, EXPANSIVE ABOUT THEIR RULE MAKING AUTHORITY TO BEGIN WITH.

I THINK THAT WAS ULTIMATELY SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE INDUSTRY THEMSELVES.

I THINK THEY, UH, I MEAN, AS WELL DOCUMENTED, THEY REALLY DO NOT LIKE RULE MAKING, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IN CALIFORNIA AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, THEY WANT STANDARDIZED LAWS THAT, UM, DON'T CHANGE.

UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, CAN BE DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE A TECHNOLOGY THAT, THAT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

I WILL SAY FOR OUR FUTURE ACTION ON HERE, UM, I DO THINK IT'S MAYBE BETTER IF WE DON'T COMMENT ON THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THE CITY HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB AT BUILDING THESE RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY CAN OFFER THOSE, UM, UH, REALLY, UH, NITTY GRITTY, UH, TECHNICAL, UH, THINGS THAT CAN BE ADDED INTO HERE.

I THINK THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE WANT AS A BODY, YOU KNOW, THE DATA, THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY, THE ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, ARE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, WE MAY NOT FIND AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND I THINK, UH, REALLY IT'S PROBABLY MORE INCUMBENT UPON US AS CITIZENS TO REALLY SHAME THOSE COMPANIES THAT AREN'T GOOD CITIZENS.

UM, THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT COME TO THE CITY AND REALLY WANT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS, AND IT'S VERY EVIDENT WHO THEY ARE.

AND THEN THERE ARE THOSE WHO SIMPLY DON'T CARE, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK IF WE AS CITIZENS, UH, REALLY PUT PRESSURE ON COMPANIES THAT WANT TO OPERATE HERE, UH, TO BE GOOD CITIZENS, TO WORK WITH THE CITY, TO PROVIDE DATA, TO BE ACCOUNTABLE, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION.

RATHER THAN US TRYING TO, TO PUSH THE CITY, UH, TO DO MORE WHEN, UH, REALLY THE, THE BEST THING THEY CAN DO IS MAINTAIN THOSE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS.

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? UH, OF COURSE.

UM, JIM DALE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.

JUST A, A QUESTION FOR KRISTEN.

SORRY, KRISTEN.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS, UM, JUST ANOTHER, UM, INDIVIDUALLY YOU CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE RULES AT THE SAME, UM, LOCATION THAT YOU HAD IN THE PRESENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S, UM, ACTUALLY AS AN INDIVIDUAL, THERE IS, UM, AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT YOU CAN, UH, SUBMIT IT TO.

I THINK IT'S LIKE RULES@TEXASDMV.GOV.

BUT I'LL HAVE TO CHECK THAT.

UM, BUT IF ANYBODY IS WANTING TO SUBMIT A COMMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT GRO OR INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS IS HANDLING AND SHOULD DEFINITELY BE SENT TO CARRIE ROGERS.

YOU CAN ALSO SUBMIT YOUR RULES AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO A MAILING ADDRESS.

AND I'M MM-HMM .

HAPPY TO PROVIDE BOTH OF THOSE AS FOLLOW UP.

IF ANYBODY'S WANTS TO DO THAT AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I CAN JUMP IN ON THAT AS WELL.

UM, I HAD EMAILED THOSE EMAIL, THAT EMAIL AND THAT, UH, MAILING ADDRESS TO Y'ALL EARLIER LAST MONTH, UM, AS WELL AS THE MEETING INFORMATION THAT KRISTEN SPOKE ABOUT.

I CAN FORWARD THAT AGAIN, UM, IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN COMMENTING AS PRIVATE CITIZENS, THAT'S WONDERFUL.

AND JUST FOR COMMENTS THAT YOU SUBMIT TO THE CITY, WE'LL STILL GO THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS ABOUT WHAT WE INCLUDE IN THAT SUBMITTAL TO THE STATE.

AND SO IF COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED, THERE'S NOT A GUARANTEE THAT THEY WILL BE IN THERE.

THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

SO JUST WANT, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

AND SO MAKE SURE Y'ALL HAVE A DIRECT WAY TO GET ANY COMMENTS INDIVIDUALLY, YOU MAY WANT TO GET THERE.

OF COURSE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO RECIRCULATE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A TOPIC THAT THE COMMISSION WILL, UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN FUTURE ITEMS, BUT MAY WANT ANOTHER UPDATE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN NEXT QUARTER OR NEXT SIX MONTHS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, ROUGHLY.

'CAUSE THIS IS SUCH A ACTIVE, UM, MOVING, EVOLVING ISSUE ON THE GROUND HERE IN AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, AS THE PRESENTATION CLEARLY SHOWED AS WELL.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK WE TECHNICALLY NEED TO DO THIS SINCE THERE WAS NO, UH, RECOMMENDATION POSTED, BUT FOR JUST FOR CLEANLINESS, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO INDEFINITELY POSTPONE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NINE.

NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION COMMENT TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES ON AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE RULES ADOPTION.

I'LL SECOND A SECOND FROM CHAIR SUMMERS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER BROWNIE WITH US.

WONDERFUL.

UH, SEVEN TO ZERO.

WE INDEFINITELY POSTPONE THAT ITEM.

UH, NEXT, OUR LAST

[6. Discussion and possible action regarding an appointment to the Downtown Commission (one vacancy). ]

ACTION ITEM DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION ONE

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VACANCY.

UM, I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO OUR FACILITATOR, SUSAN, AND THEN I'M ALSO HAPPY TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS RIGHT NOW.

THANKS.

THANKS, SPENCER.

UM, SO, UM, ONE OF THE ONE MANY MAGICAL THINGS ABOUT, UH, SERVING ON CITY COMMISSION IS THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMISSIONS THAT ARE COMPOSED OF APPOINTEES FROM OTHER COMMISSIONS IN SORT OF FRANKENSTEIN FASHION.

AND SO ONE OF THOSE, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, AN APPOINTEE THAT CAN ATTEND THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION MEETINGS.

THOSE DO HAVE A GREAT RELEVANCY TO DOWNTOWN TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE INCLUDED.

I DO WANNA REALLY ESPECIALLY NOTE FOR ANYONE THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, IN SERVING IN THIS ROLE, THAT IT IS A NON-VOTING, UH, IT'S, I GUESS, I DUNNO IF IT'S EX OFFICIO, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEONE WHO CAN GO TO THE COMMISSION MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATE AND LEARN AND THEN YOU REPORT BACK TO US.

BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE A VOTE ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION IN THIS ROLE.

SO, UM, YOU'RE LIMITED, YOU'RE CONSTRAINED IN THAT WAY IF YOU DO ACCEPT THIS ROLE.

SO, UM, I KNOW WE RECENTLY APPOINTED SOME FOLKS TO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

THAT ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT YOU DO HAVE A VOTING ROLE.

THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

UM, I CAN ACTUALLY CHECK, ACTUALLY, SPENCER MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP US.

WHEN IS THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN COMMISSION MEETING CADENCE? UH, IT'S ON WEDNESDAY.

I THINK IT'S THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH OR SECOND WEDNESDAY.

LET'S SEE, WHAT WAS JULY 16TH? YEAH, THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

AND IF YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, UH, GOOGLE THEM, UH, YOU CAN ALSO FIND OUT SORT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.

LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE COMING UP, UM, UH, AUGUST 20TH, SEPTEMBER 17TH, OCTOBER 15TH, NOVEMBER 19TH, DECEMBER 17TH.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THEIR ANNUAL REPORT AND AGENDAS AND DOCUMENTS TO GET A SENSE OF, OF WHAT THE, WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.

SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A VACANCY IN THIS RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND WE NEED TO APPOINT SOMEONE NEW.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THIS ROLE.

ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE LAST ONE.

AND SO I CAN ALSO EXPLAIN, I'VE BEEN OUR DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, UH, APPOINTEE FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

UH, OBVIOUSLY I WORK IN THE LEGISLATURE, SO THOSE LAST, UH, TWO MEETINGS, I, UH, COULDN'T GET OUT IN TIME TO MAKE IT.

AND THEN I WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR ANOTHER ONE.

SO, UH, APPARENTLY IF YOU'RE, UH, AWAY THREE MONTHS IN A ROW, YOUR SEAT IS AUTOMATICALLY VACATED.

THAT WAS CERTAINLY NEWS TO ME.

UH, SO THAT'S WHY THE AGENDA ITEM WAS PLACED ON THERE.

UH, IF NOBODY WANTS IT, I AM HAPPY TO GO BACK AND CONTINUE.

I'M ALSO NOT SUPER, YOU KNOW, ENTHRALLED WITH THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

SO IF THERE'S SOMEONE WHO REALLY WANTS TO SERVE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO HAVE IT.

I SUPPOSE WE COULD ALSO POSTPONE ONE MONTH AND LET PEOPLE REFLECT, I DON'T REALLY WANNA LEAVE THIS.

I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW OUR, UM, COMMISSION, LIKE THERE ARE SOME TIMES OF THE YEAR AROUND ELECTIONS WHERE THE COMMISSION CYCLES THROUGH A LOT OF MEMBERS.

I THINK THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A STATE WHERE OUR MEMBERSHIP'S PROBABLY PRETTY SOLID, UM, FOR A, A LITTLE WHILE HERE.

AND SO I REALLY DON'T WANNA LET THIS GO MONTHS LIKE WE DID WITH THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY KIND OF CAME.

UM, WE JUST HAD SOME PROBLEMS, UH, WITH THAT ONE FOR A LITTLE WHILE THERE ON AND OFF, UH, I GUESS WITH THE ALTERNATE.

AND THEN WE HAD A, WE HAD A MAIN MEMBER, BUT WE HAD PROBLEMS GETTING AN ALTERNATE.

BUT, UM, I'M, I'M, I THINK WE COULD POSTPONE IT ONE MONTH, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO FILL IT NEXT MONTH.

UM, AND THAT IS THE CASE.

GENERALLY, IF YOU HAVE THREE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES ON ANY CITY COMMISSION, YOU CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO, UM, THE, THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY, BASICALLY THE STAFF LIAISON REPORTS THE ATTENDANCE, AND THEN THE CITY CLERK WOULD VACATE YOU IF YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THAT.

UM, HOW EXACTLY THAT OPERATES WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE HAS NEVER BEEN, ADMITTEDLY IT'S NEVER BEEN ENTIRELY CLEAR TO ME.

BUT, UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN VACATE THE ROLE.

SO, UM, I DON DUNNO IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION OR IF ANYONE WANTS TO SERVE, PLEASE SPEAK UP.

UM, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO POSTPONE FOR ONE MONTH IF NO ONE'S INCLINED TODAY.

AND WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST, SO WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS WOULD WORK SINCE I WAS ALREADY ON, IF WE REAPPOINTED ME, WOULD BE LIKE BASICALLY AN ATTENDANCE WAIVER VERSUS IF WE APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE, THEY NEED TO GO DO THE OATH OF OFFICE AND THEN GO BACK AND BE CITY COUNCIL CONFIRMED.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH SOME FOLKS ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, THEY'D REALLY LIKE A MEMBER SOON 'CAUSE I WASN'T

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SO WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS IF, AGAIN, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PLEASE SPEAK UP, IF NOT, I, I WOULD OFFER MYSELF AGAIN AND THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS IT, I'LL STEP DOWN AND LET THEM HAVE IT.

SO I'M POTENTIALLY INTERESTED, BUT I'M NOT READY TO COMMIT TODAY.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO READ SOME OF THE AGENDAS TO JUST SEE IF THAT'S A COMMISSION I WANT TO BE A PART OF.

DOES THIS ROLE COUNT TOWARD THE QUORUM SPENCER? NO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A, THEY JUST LIKE TO GET UPDATES ON UTC STUFF.

YEAH, THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT THEY WOULD.

ALRIGHT, WELL, IF COMMISSIONER CHEN IS INTERESTED BUT NEEDS A MONTH, WHY DON'T WE JUST POSTPONE POSTPONED UNTIL NEXT MONTH? SO I THINK THAT'S, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE JUST RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY, AYE, SEVEN TO ZERO PASSES.

WE'LL GET THAT ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH.

AND I WOULD ALSO JUST OFFER TO COMMISSIONER CHEN IF YOU WANNA TALK TO COMMISSIONER, UH, SCHUMACHER.

YEAH, PLEASE DO.

Y'ALL CAN CONNECT ABOUT WHAT IT'S LIKE TO SERVE ON THAT COMMISSION AND, AND SEE, I KNOW LIKE, JUST BEING ON ONE, JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE BEING ON ONE COMMISSION I THINK IS A BIG, TAKING ON A BIG ROLE.

AND THEN TO BE ASKED TO JOIN A COMMISSION AND THEN JOIN BY, BY VIRTUE OF BEING ON ONE COMMISSION, JOIN ANOTHER COMMISSION IS, UH, IS QUITE A LOT.

I THINK SO.

UM, A LOT IS ASKED OF US, I THINK ON UTC AT TIMES.

UM, SO ANYWAY, THANKS EVERYBODY.

WE'LL GET THAT ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH.

PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

EIGHT, UPDATE FROM COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER ON THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COUNCIL.

WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE US TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS COMMITTEE UPDATES.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UPDATE FROM COMMISSIONER PRASAD FROM THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PRASAD IS NOT HERE.

CORRECT.

OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THAT.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[8. Update from Commissioner Schumacher from the Bicycle Advisory Council regarding actions taken at the July 15, 2025, meeting.]

UH, SO AT THE LAST MEETING, OH, I HAD IT UP AND THEN I PUT IT AWAY.

THERE WE GO.

UM, WE GOT AN UPDATE ON THE A DA TRANSITION PLAN FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AND, UH, ALSO LEARNED HOW SIDEWALKS IS INTEGRATING WITH THE, UH, URBAN TRAILS, UH, UH, GROUP, I GUESS, UH, IN TPW, UH, WE GOT AN UPDATE ON THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM, VERY SIMILAR TO THE UPDATE WE RECEIVED.

UH, WE ALSO GOT AN UPDATE FROM THE GLO CYCLING INITIATIVE ABOUT A, UH, UH, FALSE CYCLOVIA EVENT.

UH, THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO, UH, THEY'LL BE KIND OF AROUND MUELLER CHERRYWOOD AREA.

UH, AND THEN WE DISCUSSED, UH, HOW WE WANT TO SET UP OUR UPCOMING ELECTIONS.

UH, NEXT AN UPDATE

[9. Update from Commissioner Kavelman from the Pedestrian Advisory Council regarding actions taken at the July 7, 2025, meeting.]

FROM COMMISSIONER KAMAN FROM THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COUNCIL REGARDING ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE JULY 7TH MEETING.

UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ACTIONS, A PRESENTATION ON ALWAYS STOPS AND A, UM, BIT ON THE URBAN TRAILS, A DA, THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AND URBAN TRAILS, A DA TRANSITION PLAN FROM THE JULY 7TH MEETING.

ALL RIGHT, AGENDA ITEM

[10. Update from Chair Somers from the City Council Mobility Committee regarding actions taken at the July 17, 2025, meeting.]

NUMBER 10, AN UPDATE FROM CHAIR SUMMERS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MOBILITY COMMITTEE REGARDING ACTIONS TAKEN AT THE JULY 17TH MEETING.

I AM NOT PERSONALLY PREPARED TO GIVE THAT UPDATE BECAUSE YOU ATTENDED CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS TRUE .

IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU TO GIVE THAT UPDATE, THEN I, I WOULD ASK YOU TO, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT HERE? I THINK WE DID THIS BEFORE.

CAN, IT'S ONLY THE PERSON WHO POSTED CAN, UM, OH, THAT WORKS.

SO THERE WAS A UPDATE ON THE, UH, PARKING MODERNIZATION AND SOME OF THE PROBLEMS AND SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HICCUPS THEY'RE EXPERIENCING AND JUST GETTING ALL THAT MOVING, UM, TO, TO THE SPEED THAT I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

AND THERE WAS ALSO, UM, A VERY SIMILAR UPDATE ON THE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

UM, BUT THE RULES HAD NOT YET BEEN POSTED.

SO THAT THE, JUST A, JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THE GUY WHO DID THE UTC UPDATE, DID HE DO A GOOD JOB? WAS HE ALL RIGHT, I'M KIDDING.

AND THEN, YES, FANTASTIC .

ITEM NUMBER 11, UPDATE FROM CHAIR SUMMERS FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD REGARDING ACTIONS THE JULY 10TH MEETING.

AND THEN, UH, AGENDA

[11. Update from Chair Somers from the Community Advisory Committee for Austin Transit Partnership Board regarding actions taken at the July 10, 2025, meeting. ]

YEAH, SO WE HAD THE UPDATE, UH, THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM UPDATE, A, A VERY SIMILAR, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION

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TO THE ONE WE SAW TODAY.

SO WE SAW THAT.

AND THEN WE HAD A UPDATE FROM THE, UM, IT IS, LET ME GET THE NAME OF IT RIGHT, THE, UM, CAP METRO TOD GUIDEBOOK.

SO, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY TO SET FORTH, UH, UH, GUIDELINES, UM, FOR HOW CAP METRO WILL OPERATE WHEN THEY HAVE, UM, A TOD OR ETOD IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO, UM, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.

SO ONE STRATEGY BEING WHEN CAP METRO HAS LAND LIKE, UM, PLAZA SAT, OR NORTH LAMAR TRANSIT CENTER, SOUTH CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER, HOW THEY WILL, UM, HANDLE THE SOLICITATION PROCESS AND SORT OF THE, THE GUIDING PROCESSES AND VALUES TO SORT OF REGULARIZE THOSE, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE AREA FOR THEM IN THE PAST WHERE THEY HAVE, UM, OPERATED DIFFERENTLY EACH TIME.

OR SOMETIMES THEY WANNA PUT OUT A CALL FOR PROPOSALS, BUT THEN SOMETIMES PEOPLE ASK THEM LIKE THE COMMUNITY APPROACHES THEM FOR A PROPOSAL AND THEY DON'T HAVE A RESPONSE STRATEGY.

SO, UM, WORKING THROUGH SOME PROCESSES AND GUIDELINES FOR THAT.

BUT THEN ALSO, UM, DEVELOPING SOME GUIDELINES FOR NON KEPT METRO LAND, LIKE ADJACENT LAND AND HOW CAP METRO WILL OPERATE AS A STAKEHOLDER AND TRANSIT ADVOCATE.

BECAUSE, UM, CAP METRO I THINK IN THE PAST HAS BEEN, THIS IS MY EDITORIAL.

THE PRESENT PRESENTERS DID NOT SAY THIS, BUT, UM, THAT A LITTLE BIT RETICENT TO MAKE, UH, STATEMENTS ON LAND USE OR DEVELOPMENT ISSUES THAT MIGHT AFFECT THEIR SERVICES, BUT IF IT'S NOT DIRECTLY ON THEIR LAND, BUT LIKE THINKING THROUGH SOME STRATEGIES TO ADVOCATE FOR, UM, ETOD AND TRANSIT, UH, ACCESS, UM, TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO WHAT THEY'RE OPERATING.

SO, UM, I THINK, UM, THEY'RE IN THE FAIRLY INITIAL STAGES OF THIS, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VALUES, LIKE WHAT'S GOOD FOR COMMUNITIES, WHAT'S GOOD FOR TRANSIT, UM, AND SO, UM, THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER METRICS TO LOOK AT THIS.

SO LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THE PRESENTATION'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO PULL UP THE, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN TOD, UM, TRANSIT, I, I'M JUST USING ACRONYMS. UH, TOD IS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND ETOD IS EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY'VE PUT TOGETHER A SET OF METRICS THAT THEY'RE, UM, UH, TRYING TO, UH, STUDY TO, UM, TO THINK THROUGH THIS.

AND THEN SORT OF THE FIRST TEST OF THIS, UM, UH, PROCESS IS GOING TO BE THE CRESTVIEW STATION.

THEY'RE DOING, UH, NOW A LONG-TERM AND SHORT-TERM MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY STUDY.

UM, THAT AREA IS PRETTY COMPLEX FOR CAP METRO IN A LOT OF WAYS, INCLUDING THERE'S THE CITY'S RYAN DRIVE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THERE WAS SOME RECENT PURCHASES, UM, OF THE MIDTOWN COMMONS.

UM, SO THOSE ARE NOW SORT OF A PUBLIC, UM, ASSETS.

SO, UM, THERE'S SHOPPING CENTERS, THERE'S JUST A LOT GOING ON.

MULTIPLE, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA BE THE PLACE EVENTUALLY THAT HAS SUCH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TRANSIT SERVICE THERE WITH THE RED LINE BUSES, UM, EVENTUALLY LIGHT RAIL, HOPEFULLY.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WATCH THE PRESENTATION.

I THOUGHT IT WAS QUITE INTERESTING, UM, TO THINK ABOUT HOW CAP METRO IS GONNA SORT OF EVALUATE AND OPERATE GOING FORWARD, UM, TO TRY TO HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC, COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU CHAIR SUMMERS.

AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

FINAL AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, CHAIR SUMMERS.

DO YOU HAVE THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THAT? YEAH, I DO.

I'M GONNA, I'LL WALK US THROUGH THAT.

SO, UM, THIS WAS SENT OUT, UM, AND IT'S LIKE PAGE 40 OF THE BACKUP.

UM, AND IT'S CIRCULATED ON PAPER, I'M SURE IF YOU'RE THERE.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, IF YOU LOOK, SO WE HAVE, COMING UP ON THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, WE WERE GOING TO HEAR THE 25, 20 35, UM, TRANSIT PLAN FROM CAP METRO.

WE HAD HOPED TO HEAR THAT THIS MONTH.

THAT DID GET PUSHED, BUT WE'RE PRETTY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT NOW HAVING THAT IN SEPTEMBER.

UM, WE ALSO, UM, ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE INTEGRATED BOND AND DEVELOPMENT AND DELIVERY PLAN.

I BELIEVE THE BOND MEMO WAS PUBLISHED LIKE YESTERDAY, LIKE VERY RECENTLY.

SO WE'LL GET THAT PRESENTATION.

VERY EXCITED FOR THAT.

WE ALSO LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO, UM, UH, UH, ROE VACATIONS TO HERE.

UM, WE HAVE A-C-P-R-G OVERVIEW AND UPDATE.

UM, I SEEMS LIKE THEY WANT ME TO APPROVE THAT.

I'LL TALK TO NATALIE ABOUT THAT.

I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW.

WHAT IS CPRG? IT'S THE CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT.

IT'S OKAY.

OUR TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT, UM, PROGRAM FOR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL BE HAPPENING.

COOL.

UM, SO, AND THEN

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FOR OCTOBER WE HAVE D CONFIRMED GREAT SPRINGS AND GREEN STREETS PROJECT UPDATES.

UM, SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, ALSO SOME JUST SORT OF FALL THINGS, CITY LEAP, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS, LIVING STREETS.

SOME OF THOSE ARE GONNA BE WHENEVER THE PROGRAM OR ANALYSIS IS READY.

UM, VISION ZERO, 10 YEAR REPORT.

DID WE ACTUALLY GET THAT? I DON'T KNOW, UM, ALREADY.

UM, BUT, UM, AND WE ALSO, ONE THING THAT I REALLY WANNA PRIORITIZE AS WELL, IF WE THINK ABOUT THE TOUR OF, UM, T UH, TPW UNITS AT SOME POINT THIS FALL, THE ROE VACATION PROCESS OVERVIEW AND, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION USER FEE BRIEFING, WHAT IT IS, HOW IT'S USED, THINGS LIKE THAT, HOW IT'S SET, UM, AFTER WE'LL ROLL THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME, UM, REQUESTS FOR THOSE HIGHWAY PRESENTATIONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE.

I WOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT WE NEED TO GET BACK ON, UM, UH, THE ITEM TO, UH, RECONSIDER CONSIDER AGAIN, UM, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION NOW NEEDS TO BE ON THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA.

AND, UM, ALSO WOULD NEED TO THINK ABOUT, I, I WOULD SAY ANOTHER AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

SIX MONTHS MIGHT BE GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE NEXT QUARTER, BUT LIKE MAYBE AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR WE HEAR FROM ABOUT AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AGAIN.

UM, 'CAUSE I JUST THINK THAT'S JUST SUCH A RAPIDLY EVOLVING ISSUE AREA.

UM, ARE THERE OTHERS THAT PEOPLE ARE MISSING? AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE ARE JUST SORT OF LIKE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CARRIED FORWARD FOR A LOT OF TIMES AND THEY MAY POP UP ON THE AGENDA.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUR, WE'VE HAD SOME, I GUESS, ISSUES WITH SORT OF CANCELLATIONS ON OUR AGENDAS A LITTLE UNEXPECTED OR LAST MINUTE.

UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO ACTUALLY MAKE OUR AGENDAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST SO THAT IF WE DO GET CANCELLATIONS, WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO OCCUPY OUR TIME.

IF PEOPLE DON'T CANCEL, THAT COULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF HAVING LONGER MEETINGS.

I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF, OF THE CADENCE THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH PEOPLE CANCELING.

UM, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, UH, THINGS THAT AREN'T ON HERE OR MAYBE EVEN THINGS THAT ARE ON HERE THAT PEOPLE WANNA RE-HIGHLIGHT OR MAKE SURE ARE HEARD SOONER.

I HAVE A, UH, ONE ADDITIONAL ONE QUESTION.

UM, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION THIS MONTH IS GETTING AN UPDATE ON THE GREAT STREETS PROJECT, WHICH IS DISTINCT FROM GREEN STREETS AND GREAT SPRINGS, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE GETTING UPDATES ON, UH, IN OCTOBER.

UM, BUT THE GREAT STREETS UPDATE DOWNTOWN DOES SEEM LIKE SOMETHING WE MAY BE INTERESTED IN.

SO, UH, IF WE GET THEM TO COME AROUND US WHEN THEY, UH, DO THEIR ROUNDS, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, I ALSO WANNA ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE INTEGRATED BOND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.

ONE IS TPW GIVING THAT PRESENTATION.

IT'S GONNA BE THE CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT I'LL GIVE THE PRESENTATION.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE MANAGING THE BOND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY, WHICH MAKES SENSE.

I WAS WONDERING IF, UM, IF WE COULD GET A COPY OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE BOND, UH, ADVISORY TASK FORCE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SHARED, BUT AS WE START CONSIDERING WHAT, UH, UH, A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION WE MIGHT MAKE TO THEM WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF WE HAD THAT AT LEAST, UM, THE TPW AND, AND TRANSPORTATION SIDE OF IT.

UH, AGAIN, IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THAT'S FINE, BUT IF, IF IT IS SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

IF IT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, WE'LL PRO WE'LL PROVIDE IT.

GOTCHA.

UM, AND THEN I, I DIDN'T WANNA VOLUNTEER DANIEL, BUT, UH, I, DANIEL, YOU'RE NO LONGER ON THE PAC, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

I'M NOT, I KNOW IF WE WANT TO, WOULD YOU PREFER SOMEONE ELSE BE THE LIAISON IF IN CASE SOMEONE'S INTERESTED IN GOING INTO THE MEETINGS OR, I DON'T WANNA VOLUNTEER YOU.

I JUST KNOW YOU HAVE A BUSY SCHEDULE.

UM, IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO DO IT, THAT'S FINE.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO VOLUNTEER, BUT OTHERWISE THAT'S FINE.

I, I KNOW SOMEONE ON THE PAC THAT I USUALLY GET UPDATES FROM AND HEAR ABOUT.

WHEN THEY GOT CONTROVERSIAL, WE HAD A STRUCTURE WE COULD FOLLOW.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT WE STATED IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT THAT, UM, UPDATING OUR BYLAWS WAS A GOAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF LIKE, MAYBE, MAYBE THE WINTER MIGHT BE A GOOD TIMEFRAME FOR THAT.

UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, SPENCER, THIS WAS SOMETHING YOU REALLY HAD IN MIND TO DO.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD TIMELINE FOR THAT? YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT AFTER WE GET, UM, UM, AFTER WE GET THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION 1 0 1 PRESENTATION.

'CAUSE ONE THING WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY BEING A PART OF THAT WAS, UH, ADOPTING KIND OF A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR RIGHT-AWAY VACATION SO THAT

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UM, YEAH.

AND THEN I, I THINK THE MAIN CRUX OF THAT WAS IRONING OUT WHAT OUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE BAC AND PAC IS.

SO MAYBE PERHAPS NEXT MONTH WE POST FOR CREATING A WORKING GROUP ON THAT TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE IS INTERESTED.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.

AND THEY COULD START AND WE COULD GIVE THEM A PRETTY LONG, UH, WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT PREPARED.

I THINK SO.

COULD I JUMP IN WITH A COUPLE QUESTIONS? UM, I, I COULD TRY TO GET THE ROE VACATION 1 0 1 NEXT MONTH.

I, I KIND OF HAD IT AS AN IDEA, BUT THEN WHEN WE HAD SO MANY ITEMS POP OVER, UM, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO GET THAT ON FOR NEXT MONTH? SO I IMAGINE THAT THE INTEGRATED BOND AND THE 25, 20 35 PLAN FROM CAP METRO ARE GONNA BE PRETTY ROBUST.

I, I GUESS THE CPRG COULD VERY WELL BE ROW VACATIONS USUALLY ARE NOT UNTIL THEY ARE, AND PEOPLE WANNA GIVE A, LIKE THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO COME AND GIVE US INPUT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF THESE TWO ROE VACATIONS OR IF PEOPLE ARE , UH, EXCITED FOR THEM OR, OR UNEXCITED FOR THEM IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED IF THE ROE VACATION TEAM IS COMING OUT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THAT DOES GIVE US REALLY WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE FOUR ITEMS, WHICH IS A LARGER AGENDA.

UM, UM, IF I TAKE ALL THE ROW ITEMS TOGETHER AND ASSUME THE TWO ROW VACATIONS THEMSELVES ARE LIKELY TO BE CONCISE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CANCELLATIONS AND POSTPONEMENTS, I COULD BE COMFY WITH THAT.

SO I WOULD BE INCLINED TO GO AHEAD AND GET THEM SINCE THEY'RE COMING OUT TO US ANYWAY.

AND SO THEN WE'RE NOT, WE'RE JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM ALREADY BEING THERE.

AND THEN ONE OTHER THING I DO WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF.

UM, WITH THE UPDATE TO TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WE WILL HAVE TO DO A BYLAW UPDATE FOR UTC AND BASICALLY ALL COMMISSIONS ANYWAY, SO WE MIGHT WANNA TRY AND WORK THAT TOGETHER.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT POSTING WINDOW IS GOING TO BE LONGER.

IS THAT, DO I HAVE THAT CORRECTLY, NATALIE? CORRECT.

UM, SO TYPICALLY FOR OUR MEETING, I'LL HAVE TO HAVE THAT POSTED BEFORE, BEFORE THE END OF DAY TO THURSDAY.

UM, PROBABLY GONNA PLAN ON WEDNESDAYS IN CASE THERE'S A MONDAY OR A FRIDAY HOLIDAY, UM, JUST TO, TO TRY AND KEEP IT UNIFORM.

UM, BUT IT, IT WILL KIND OF CHANGE SOME OF WHAT I, WHAT MY REQUIREMENTS FROM Y'ALL WILL BE WHEN IT COMES TO REQUESTING ITEMS TO GO ON THE AGENDA, WHICH I, I DON'T SEE IT TO BE A PROBLEM FOR THIS COMMISSION, WHICH IS THE ONLY COMMISSION I REALLY KNOW HOW IT RUNS.

UM, BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW PRETTY EARLY.

UM, YEAH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE MIGHT BE ASKING TO MOVE THAT TO A SEVEN DAY, UM, DEADLINE INSTEAD OF A FIVE DAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

UM, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ITEMS THERE? OKAY.

IF SOMETHING, UM, REMEMBER THAT, UM, IF YOU, UM, SOMETHING MOVES YOU AFTER THE MEETING AND YOU SEE A NEED FOR ITEM, UM, YOU CAN, UH, EMAIL, UH, NATALIE.

UM, YOU DO NEED TWO PEOPLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.

I'M USUALLY ALMOST ALWAYS WILLING TO HELP YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.

IT'S USUALLY NOT THE, THE NATURE OF YOUR ITEM, BUT IT'S USUALLY THE LENGTH OF THE MEETING.

UM, BUT I DO MEET WITH NATALIE JUST FOR Y'ALL'S INFORMATION.

I, I CONNECT WITH HER USUALLY LIKE THE, NOT LIKE THIS THURSDAY, BUT USUALLY LIKE THE NEXT THURSDAY AFTER OUR MEETING OR THE THURSDAY AFTER OUR MEETING, WE'LL CONNECT.

AND SO, UM, THAT IS REALLY WHEN WE TRY TO GET THE AGENDA CLOSE TO SOLIDIFIED.

SO DO FOLLOW UP QUICKLY WITH ME.

UM, IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT YOU WANT FOR THE NEXT MONTH AFTER, LIKE, AFTER A MEETING, YOU KNOW, DON'T WAIT AROUND.

TELL ME AS SOON AS YOU CAN.

SO THAT WOULD, UH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S TIMELY AND TELL, NO, I SAY ME, BUT ME AND ESPECIALLY NATALIE.

'CAUSE NATALIE'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS PROCESS.

DO I HAVE TO ADJOURN OR DO, CAN YOU STILL DO THAT? UH, I THINK YOU HAVE TO ADJOURN.

I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.