* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IT'S 2 0 7 [00:00:01] AND WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? UH, SO WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. I'LL CALL. WE HAVE ANY, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. I'LL JUST CALL REAL, REAL QUICK. COMMISSIONER MCNABB HERE. COMMISSIONER CURRY HERE. COMMISSIONER BYRD. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER DIAZ? HERE. COMMISSIONER DWYER? HERE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. COMMISSIONER LIBEL. COMMISSIONER CORTE. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. HERE. COMMISSIONER STANLEY HERE. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. OKAY. THAT'S AN EASY ONE THEN. [1. Approval of the minutes of the Regular meeting of the Bond Oversight Commission on June 18, 2025. ] SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. UH, I DO. SO. MOTION. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OR RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD. AYE. OKAY. THINK WE GOT IT ALL? YEAH. THE MINUTES WERE SHORT AND SWEET. . OKAY. [2. Staff briefing from Development Services Department on permitting process. ] SO WE HAVE A STAFF BRIEFING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON, Y'ALL. UM, I'M TARA VIRAY AND I'M THE DIVISION MANAGER OVER PUBLIC PROJECTS. AT DSC, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A DIVISION CALLED PUBLIC PROJECTS REVIEW. UM, AND I'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. LEMME GET MY THING. OH, THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OFF, OUR MISSION, OUR MISSION WITH THIS DIVISION IS TO PROPERLY STEWARD FINANCIAL RESOURCES OF CAPITAL AND PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECTS BY PROVIDING A TIMELY AND COLLABORATIVE PERMITTING REVIEW PROCESS. SO WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM IN, UM, 2023, UM, AND WE HAD A PILOT. AND, UM, THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. I'M SORRY, IT'S HARD TO SEE HERE ON THIS SCREEN, BUT, UM, SOME OF Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS QUITE COMPLEX AND IT INVOLVES UP TO 11 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS PROGRAM IS, UM, BRING IN D ONE PERSON FROM EACH DEPARTMENT, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE PEOPLE FROM THE DEPARTMENTS TO COLLABORATE AS ONE EFFECTIVE TEAM, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS. UM, OUR, THE PROJECTS THAT QUALIFY RIGHT NOW, UM, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SCHOOLS, THE A ISD BOND PROGRAM HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CUSTOMERS TO DATE. UH, THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE A US EXPANSION PARKS, AND THEN AUSTIN LIGHT RAIL OR, BUT THEN ALSO ANY CIP PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS ELIGIBLE. UM, SO YEAH, SOME OF OUR BIG GOALS, UH, OUR VISIONS, THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, TO OBTAIN THE MISSION WITH THE PROGRAM. UM, WE FACILITATE COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE DESIGN TEAMS AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN REVIEWERS. UM, WE GET THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THE ROOM. WE WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO THE DESIGN TEAMS AND THE REVIEWERS OF COMMUNICATING, RIGHT. UM, INSTEAD OF IN THE PAST, IT'S BEEN, UM, HERE'S A COMMENT REPORT, FIGURE IT OUT, , AND THEN COME BACK TO US. AND IT'S THIS EXCHANGE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATIONS. AND NOW WE'RE ALL TOGETHER IN A ROOM. UM, SO THAT'S GREAT. UM, WHAT ELSE? OH, WE ARE, INSTEAD OF, UH, HISTORICALLY, UM, THE PROJECTS, THEY COME AT LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR PERMITTING. UM, THEY DESIGN COMPLETELY ALL THE WAY. AND SO WITH THIS PROGRAM, THE BIG CHANGER IS THAT, UM, AND I'M ACTUALLY GONNA GO FORWARD A COUPLE SLIDES AND I'LL COME BACK TO OUR GOALS. OKAY. UM, IS THIS PROCESS FLOWCHART? SO THAT LAST BOX IS, AGAIN, I'M SORRY, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE FORMAL REVIEW. SO HISTORICALLY, THAT'S WHEN YOU COME INTO PERMITTING AND YOU SUBMIT. SO WITH OUR NEW PROCESS WITH PUBLIC PROJECTS IS WE GET WITH THE DESIGN TEAMS EARLY ON, WE WANNA SEE YOUR PROJECT AT PROJECT CONCEPTION. UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING IT CLEAR OF, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS. THIS IS YOUR PERMITTING PATH IN CREATING CLEAR EXPECTATIONS FOR BUDGETS AND TIMELINES SPECIFICALLY. UM, SO THEN WHILE THE DESIGN TEAMS ARE DESIGNING THE PROJECTS, THEY GET TO COME TO US AND AT 30% DESIGN, 60% DESIGN, 90% DESIGN, AND THEN FOR FORMAL REVIEW. AND THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS, WE'RE GUIDING THEM ALONG THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THERE'S NOTHING, NO SURPRISES, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A, WE'VE DESIGNED THIS TO A HUNDRED PERCENT, WE'VE [00:05:01] GIVEN IT TO YOU AND SOMETHING DOESN'T MEET THE CODES AND CRITERIA, AND Y'ALL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, THEREFORE, RESULTING IN ADDITIONAL COST AND DELAYS. UM, SO GOING BACK, SO YOU SAID IT WAS A 30%? YES. UHHUH. , YOU COME 30%, 30%, 60%, 90%. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR FORMAL REVIEW MM-HMM . AND 90%. OKAY. MM-HMM . AND THEN A, UH, YEAH, 102. ALL RIGHT. AND FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS AS I'M GOING THROUGH THIS. I WANT THIS TO BE LIKE COLLABORATIVE. I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON PERMITTING. SO HERE FOR THOSE, UM, WHAT ELSE DO WE DO? WE'RE SETTING CONSISTENT REVIEW EXPECTATIONS AND TIMELINES. UM, WE'RE COLLABORATING ACROSS PARTNER DEPARTMENTS, AND WE HOST INCLUSIVE MEETINGS WITH ALL THE DISCIPLINES. UM, IF THINGS ARISE, LIKE THE POSSIBILITY FOR WAIVERS AND VARIANCES, AM OS, THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, WE HELP GUIDE THOSE CONVERSATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PROCESS IS NOT ALWAYS VERY CLEAR. OH, TOO FAR. AND IN THOSE CONS, CONSULTATIONS, RIGHT? IT'S THE GOAL TO LIKE, TO COME TO A RESOLUTION, RIGHT? NOT JUST HAVE COMMENTS COME BACK AND FORTH, BUT DISCUSS THOSE COMMENTS. MAKE IT CLEAR OF, UM, OKAY, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS. I'M GOING TO DO THIS. AND REDUCING THE BACK AND FORTH COMMUNICATIONS IN A LIVE MEETING SETTING. UM, AGAIN, WORKING THROUGH THE, THE, THE BIG ISSUES, UM, RESPONSES RESOLUTION, REALLY WITH THE GOAL OF, YOU KNOW, BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE PROCESS AND HAVING A FACE TO TALK TO MM-HMM . UM, WE ALSO OFFER, EACH PROJECT IS ASSIGNED A PROJECT COORDINATOR. UM, AND THAT'S A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE PROJECT WHERE IN THE PAST YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN, OH, THAT MIGHT BE A FIRE OR A WATER PERSON, AND POINT THE FINGER TO THEM AND YOU GET LOST WITHIN THAT ORGANIZATION. SO THIS ONE POINT OF CONTACT, UM, WILL, YOU KNOW, HELP THE PROJECT ALONG THE WAY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE PROJECT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. UM, YEAH. I THINK I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT. I'M HAPPY TO QUESTION. I'M CURIOUS, CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW YOU MEASURE YOUR TEAM'S SUCCESS? SURE. YEAH. UM, SO WE LAUNCHED FORMALLY IN 2023. UM, WE'VE HAD UPWARD OF 300 PROJECTS COME TO US. UM, OUR CURRENT NUMBERS ARE HALF OF THE TIMELINE FROM THE HISTORICAL PAST, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 12 TO 13 MONTHS FOR A TRADITIONAL SITE PLAN. AND, UM, OUR NUMBERS 0.2, IT'S TAKING SIX MONTHS WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE APPROVED TO DATE. UM, RIGHT OUT OF THOSE 300 PROJECTS, THOUGH, WE CAUGHT THEM WITHIN THE DESIGN, RIGHT? SO THEY HAVEN'T FORMALLY BEEN SUBMITTED. UM, AND THE DESIGN TEAMS ARE WORKING ON THE DESIGN. BUT, UM, THOSE ARE OUR NUMBERS SO FAR. AND WE CAN, WE'RE ALSO A TEAM OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENTS. SO, UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER, SEVERAL OTHER INITIATIVES GOING ON TO, UM, HELP OTHER PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECTS. UM, FOR INSTANCE, UM, OUR GENERAL PERMIT PROGRAM, OCTOBER 1ST, WERE, AND STEVEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK I WAS WORKING WITH ERIC ON THIS, UM, 60% OF THE CITY'S TOTAL PROJECTS, NOT AMOUNT OF A DOLLAR AMOUNT OF PROJECTS, UM, OUR WORK WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. YEAH. AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE MODIFYING OUR GENERAL PERMIT PROGRAM TO HELP STREAMLINE, UM, 60% OF THOSE PROJECTS. SO REALLY THE WHOLE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE, UM, HAS THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY, ATTENTION OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND, UH, FOCUS FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT TO HELP, UH, THE CITY SPEND ITS TAX DO DOLLARS MORE EFFICIENTLY. THAT'S QUITE AN IMPROVEMENT FROM 13 MONTHS TO SIX MONTHS. . THANK YOU. IT'S HUGE. AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE EMBEDDED IN CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES? WE, I MEAN, WE JUST WORK CLOSELY, RIGHT? OKAY. IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT ABOUT WHO YOU BELONG TO. ONE, ONE CITY, ONE VOICE, . YEAH. I'VE, I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE, UH, PERMITTING. HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT OR TALK TO PRIORITIZE SELF AND SAFETY RELATED PROJECTS, UM, TO KIND OF FAST TRACK GETTING THOSE PERMITS THROUGH? UM, I GUESS, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIMME LIKE AN EXAMPLE PROJECT FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY? FOR EXAMPLE, THE, A NEW FIRE STATION RIGHT. OR A NEW, UM, YOU KNOW, EMS STATION, STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. UM, SO OUR, OUR [00:10:01] TIMELINES WITHIN ARE EMBEDDED WITHIN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, SO WE HAVE THAT WORKING AGAINST US, BUT, UM, WE ARE WORKING ON AN INITIATIVE CALLED EXPEDITED SITE PLAN WHERE PUBLIC PROJECTS AND HOUSING WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE PROJECTS. UM, THE TARGETED, UM, LAUNCH DATE FOR THAT IS OCTOBER 1ST. UM, AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, SHORTER REVIEW TIMELINES, UM, AND RIGHT. FIRE STATIONS WOULD QUALIFY, BUT IDEALLY, RIGHT, FIRE STATIONS ALREADY QUALIFY FOR PUBLIC PROJECTS REVIEW, AND THEY'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE GETTING THE SIX MONTH, I MEAN THE SIX MONTH AVERAGE REVIEW TIMELINE, THAT'S, UM, OUR AVERAGE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . I HAD A, A DUMB QUESTION. ARE YOU THE ONES WHO THEN ACTUALLY ISSUED THE PERMIT? WE ARE. WE ARE. AND WHAT ARE THE DOLLAR SIGNS ON THE CHART? THE DOLLAR SIGNS ARE THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE PHASES OF THE PROJECT? UM, SO DSC IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IT'S A COST OF SERVICE. UM, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REIMBURSED BY THE GENERAL FUND, UM, FOR, FOR THIS WORK. SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. UM, THEY'RE DIRECTLY TIED TO THE HOURS PUT INTO THE PROJECT BY THE STAFF. OKAY. THANKS. I WAS WONDERING WHY THEY KEPT JUMPING UP . SO YOU WENT ALONG AND THAT'S, YEAH, WE HAVE A NEW, I THINK, APPROVED BUDGET, UH, FOR OCTOBER 1ST. SO THOSE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE. YES. UM, YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE THAT SEVERAL OF US ALSO SIT ON THE BOND ADVISORY TASK FORCE. OKAY. DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT HAVE ANY PIECE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, OR DO YOU SIT ANYWHERE RELATIVE TO THAT PROCESS, OR YOU'RE ALL AFTER THE FACT? WE'RE ALL AFTER THE FACT. ALTHOUGH, I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE WHO OF THE CITY TO BE MORE INVOLVED. UH, YOU KNOW, CREATING BUDGETS AND UNDERSTANDING OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RESTRAINTS, UM, COMPARABLE TO THE PRICE TAG BEING PUT ON THE PROJECTS. SO HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THAT IF NEEDED. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TERRY. AND I DID PUT MY CONTACT INFORMATION ON THAT LAST SLIDE, SO IF Y'ALL THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT. THANK Y'ALL. OH, I DID HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. SURE. YOU SAID THERE'S A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT MM-HMM . WHERE ARE THEY EMBEDDED WITHIN DSD. OKAY. OKAY. THANKS. THANK Y'ALL. GO . OKAY, THEN WE'RE ON TO [3. Discussion on Commission process and future presentations. ] THE COMMISSION PROCESS AND FUTURE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS. THAT, THAT'S FINE. RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION. UM, I'M GOING TO GO OVER A FEW OF THE IDEAS, UM, LAID OUT ON THIS SLIDE AND THEN OPEN IT UP OR I'LL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UM, THE CHAIRMAN TO KIND OF GUIDE THE DISCUSSION. BUT WE'D, WE'D LIKE TO THINK FORWARD ABOUT OUR, AS WE'RE PLANNING OUR SCHEDULE AND THE, THE COMMISSION, UM, AGENDAS GOING INTO 2026, SOME CONSIDERATIONS ON, UM, BOTH THE FREQUENCY AND THE, THE PRIORITIES FOR WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AS, AS A COMMISSION. SO, UM, LET ME RUN THROUGH A FEW OF THE, THE OBSERVATIONS I GUESS IN, ON THE, IN THE LEFT HAND BOX. AND THEN SOME ITEMS THAT I, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP FOR DISCUSSION. UM, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE BTF IS CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, GOING FULL STEAM AHEAD MM-HMM . AND WE, WE DO HAVE AN OVERLAP. THERE ARE SEVERAL MEMBERS, UM, WHO SERVE ON, IN BOTH OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS. AND WE, WE KNOW THAT IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS MM-HMM . OR CERTAINLY INTO THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR, THE B TS ROLE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE, UM, A HIGHER WILL BE TAKING ON A, A HIGHER ROLE OR HIGHER PRIORITY ROLE AS, UM, AS THAT BOND, UH, PROPOSAL STARTS TO TAKE SHAPE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE CONSIDERATION THAT WE DO HAVE THAT, UM, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT OVERLAP AND WE REALIZE BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS, THAT IS PROBABLY THE PRIORITY IN, CERTAINLY IN THE NEXT HALF YEAR, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAT. UM, AND TWO OF US CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT YES, NOT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE FOLKS DO DUALHEAD. SO THE, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE FACT THAT FOR OUR CALENDAR THIS YEAR, WE CAME INTO THE YEAR, UM, LAYING IN A FEW BREAKS, AND WE JUST CAME OUT OF ONE THIS PAST MONTH WHERE [00:15:01] WE HAD A KIND OF A SPRING BREAK, A A SUMMER, UM, BREAK BETWEEN, UH, COMMISSION MEETINGS. AND THEN WE DON'T PLAN TO HAVE ONE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, IN DECEMBER. SO OUR, OUR FULL SCHEDULE IS ONLY NINE MEETINGS, AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A FEW MEETINGS THAT WERE SCHEDULED THAT WE'VE HAD DIFFICULTY, UM, MAKING QUORUM AND ONE THAT WE HAD TO, UM, CANCEL. WE'VE ALSO HAD, UM, A FEW CHALLENGES IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAD USEFUL OR VALUABLE AGENDA TOPICS TO PRESENT WHEN WE DID HAVE OUR MEETINGS. SO THAT'S, THAT GIVES A LITTLE INSIGHT INTO THE, THE AMOUNT OF, UM, BENEFICIAL MATERIAL WE, WE DO HAVE. AND THE THIRD BULLET SORT OF, UM, COMES AT IT FROM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. THAT CHART THAT YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS A, A KIND OF A BACK OF A NAPKIN ANALYSIS, BUT OUT OF THE, THE BONDS WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, THE 20 16, 18, 20 20 AND 22, UM, BONDS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE BEING, YOU KNOW, IN SOME STAGE OF, UM, EXECUTION, THERE ARE, UH, I DIDN'T, I SHOULD HAVE DONE COUNT, BUT, UH, ABOUT 10 DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MANAGING OR BEING IMPACTED BY THOSE BONDS AND THE PROJECTS THEY'RE GONNA DELIVER IN GENERAL, THE, THEY ARE WELL ON TRACK IN SOME CASES. LIKE, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT WATERSHED, ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT SPENT ON THEIR, THEIR BOND EFFORTS RIGHT NOW. SO EITHER COMPLETE OR ON, ON A TRAJECTORY THAT PUTS THEM, UH, COMPLETE WITHIN THIS YEAR. THERE'S ONLY A HANDFUL OF, UH, DEPARTMENTS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE IN, IN SOME STAGE OF EXECUTION, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE SCHEDULE OR BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING SOME CHALLENGES. SO WHEN WE, WE LOOK AHEAD TO THE, THE AGENDA AND INVITING THOSE DEPARTMENTS TO COME PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION MM-HMM . IN A LOT OF CASES, THE PRESENTATIONS WOULD BE, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY NICE TO HAVE, BUT THEY, THEY'D SHOW US SOME PRETTY GOOD PICTURES. THEY'D SAY, HEY, OUR, WE DID A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENTS. WE MADE THIS HAPPEN, AND HERE, HERE'S THE RESULT. WHICH IS ALWAYS A, CERTAINLY A GOOD THING TO HEAR ABOUT, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T GIVE THE COMMISSION ANYTHING TO, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE THE COUNCIL OR TO DISCUSS OR, OR TRY TO RESOLVE. SO WITH THAT SAID, THE ANALYSIS REALLY ONLY SHOWS, UM, FOUR DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION OR AT LEAST A, A DECISION, UM, A DECISION TYPE UPDATE FROM THEM. SO AGAIN, THAT KINDA LENDS ITSELF TO PROBABLY LESS THAN A FULL 12 MONTH AGENDA. WE'D REALLY PREFER TO FOCUS ON THE, THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT STILL HAD SIGNIFICANT OUTSTANDING DOLLARS. AND LET'S SEE, WE, THAT WOULD ALLOW SOMETHING MORE LIKE A, A QUARTER OR MAYBE FOUR, UM, ANNUAL MEETINGS INSTEAD OF 12. AND WITHIN THOSE MEETINGS, WE COULD ALSO INCLUDE SOME OF THE, UM, THE ANNUAL REQUIREMENTS LIKE THE, THE UPDATE, UM, ON THE BOND SALE THAT WE GET FROM FSD EVERY YEAR, UM, SETTING ASIDE SOME TIME TO HOLD THE ANNUAL ELECTIONS, DOING SOME BUSINESS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT THAT WOULD COMFORTABLY, UM, ALLOW US TO BRING IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS WITH A, A, A MUCH REDUCED SCHEDULE. SO WITH THOSE OBSERVATIONS IN MIND, THE, THE THINGS WE'D LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION ARE, UM, VERY BRIEFLY, AND MAYBE I'LL DEFER, I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH EVERYTHING AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO IT, BUT TO, UM, WE'VE, WE HAVEN'T GOT ANY CLARITY ON A POTENTIAL SUNSET OF OUR COMMISSION OR SOME OTHER COMMISSIONS. WE EXPECT TO GET THAT GUIDANCE IN OCTOBER. UM, WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE, I'LL SKIP AHEAD TO THE THIRD BULLET TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE FREQUENCY OF OUR COMMISSION'S MEETINGS IN THE BYLAWS. THAT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY LENGTHY PROCESS. WE'D BE LOOKING AT REALISTICALLY ABOUT A YEAR TO GO IN AND MAKE THOSE, UM, REVISIONS TO GET IT FORMALLY APPROVED AND TO GO ON THE BOOKS WITH ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THE MONTHLY MEETINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR BYLAWS. BUT GOING BACK TO THE SECOND BULLET, UM, JUST LIKE WE DID THIS YEAR, WE WENT AHEAD AND BUILT A ACTUAL SCHEDULE THAT ONLY LAID IN NINE MEETINGS. WE COULD CERTAINLY PUT TOGETHER OUR SCHEDULE NEXT YEAR WITH A, A REDUCED, UM, MEETING FREQUENCY AND SAY, UNDERSTAND THIS IS A DEVIATION FROM THE, THE BYLAWS, BUT THIS IS OUR, OUR PLAN FOR 2026 BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. YEP. THAT MAKES SENSE. THE FINAL ONE TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS CERTAINLY, UM, LOOKING AHEAD TO NEXT, THE END OF NEXT YEAR. WE KNOW IN NOVEMBER THERE'LL BE AN ELECTION. WE, WE PROBABLY WE'LL FIND OUT IF WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH A NEW BOND. AND THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY THEN TO LOOK AHEAD TO 2027 AND SAY, HOW CAN THIS COMMISSION THEN, UM, RESTRUCTURE HOW IT ASKS FOR UPDATES AND HOW IT THEN FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH THAT NEW BOND FROM ITS INCEPTION. SO KIND OF A CRADLE TO GRAVE WHERE WE STRUCTURE THE 2027 CALENDAR AROUND THAT 2026, UH, MOST LIKELY IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF NEW INFORMATION. UM, AND MAYBE THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON BIF NOW WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THEN TO REFOCUS [00:20:01] INTO A KIND OF A NEW AND UPDATED, UM, BOND OVERSIGHT COMMISSION AT THAT TIME. SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, UM, I'LL DEFER NOW TO, TO THE CHAIRMAN AND JUST, UM, SOLICIT THE GROUP'S INPUTS ON, UM, THE DIRECTION THEY THINK WE COULD GO. I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE CALLING FOR ANY ACTION TODAY, BUT WE WANTED TO GET, UM, THOUGHTS, THOUGHTS ON THAT? YES, SIR. IT SOUNDS VERY REASONABLE, UH, CONSIDERING THE THING IS, AND THEN I LOOK DOWN HERE AND I SEE THE TRANSPORTATION OF PUBLIC WORKS ACTUALLY HAS THREE DIFFERENT BONDS GOING ON, AND I'M WONDERING IF THEY COULD JUST PRESENT ONCE AND TELL US HOW THEY'RE DOING ON ABSOLUTELY. THEY COULD, COULD COVER EVERYTHING IN A, IN A SINGLE UPDATE. YES, SIR. JUST SO IT'S NOT LOST IN THERE. SO ARE YOU PROPOSING WE CHANGE THE REST OF IT THIS YEAR'S SCHEDULE AND NOT THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO BEGINNING NEXT YEAR. YEP. YES. WE, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SCHEDULE FOR 26, ANYTHING, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT PICKING UP ON WHAT YOU SAID AT THE END, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER OUR SUCCESS OR LACK THEREOF. IN THE PAST, UH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS MAKING PRESENTATIONS AND WE'VE LOOKED AT, UM, THEIR FORECAST OF THEIR SPENDING IN AN ATTEMPT TO, YOU KNOW, FULFILL OUR MISSION, WHICH IS TO ADVISE COUNCIL AS THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE BOND PROGRAM. AND THAT HAS JUST NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT ALL, UM, LARGELY BECAUSE THE, THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE FICTION OR TURNED OUT NOT TO BE ACCURATE AT LEAST. UM, SO ONE OF THE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FIRST IS TO REEXAMINE OUR PROCESS. UH, NOW WE MIGHT COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, ADVANTAGE OF THE REST OF THIS YEAR TO DO THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO, UH, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE, WE'VE NEVER, AT LEAST WHILE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, WE'VE NEVER LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE PROCESS. WE'VE NEVER LOOKED AT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WE'VE NEVER LOOKED AT THE CAPITAL BUDGET. WE'VE LOOKED AT INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT PROJECTS THEY HAVE. UM, SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO, UH, START BY LOOKING AT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET, GET A BRIEFING ON HOW THOSE ARE PUT TOGETHER AND WHAT THOSE CONTAIN. UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE IS, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THE, THERE IS A REPORT THAT, UM, SAYS AT THE END OF THE YEAR OF WHAT WE BUDGETED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, HOW MUCH WAS ACTUALLY SPENT. IT'S THE BROADER PICTURE AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S SUCH A, SUCH A REPORT OR NOT. UM, BUT I'D LIKE FOR US TO START BY, BY LOOKING AT THOSE DOCUMENTS. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, I HAVE REPEATEDLY REFERRED TO AN OLD SYSTEM THAT THE CITY HAD, UM, THAT WAS DEVELOPED. THE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE LAST TIME, BUT AT ONE POINT IN THE PAST WHEN THE CITY HAD A SIMILAR PROBLEM, UH, DISCOVERING THAT THEY WERE NOT DELIVERING PROJECTS ON TIME OR ON BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO REDO THE PROCESS, THEY DEVELOPED A SYSTEM THAT'S CALLED CAPRI THAT I THINK STILL EXISTS, BUT HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH. IT WAS NOT USEFUL, I DON'T THINK TO, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WAS IT WAS NOT USED TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE MANAGING PROJECTS. UM, AND AS MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A NEW SYSTEM THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED. SO I'D THEN, I'D LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT THE NEW [00:25:01] SYSTEM THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED TO SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE IN THAT NEW SYSTEM FOR US TO RETHINK HOW WE EVALUATE THE PROGRESS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE MAKING ON THE PROJECTS. AND LIKE I SAID, UM, MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR. UM, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I LOOK TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU THINK , WE ARE AT YOUR DISPOSAL. I MEAN, THE COMMISSION CAN CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN, UM, THAT, THAT TYPE OF PLANNING AND LOOKING AHEAD, THERE'S PROBABLY, THERE'D PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE IMPACT IN LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT BOND AND SAYING, HOW DO WE GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT SO THAT SHOULD THAT BOND SUCCEED AND WE HAVE A PRETTY WELL-DEFINED SCOPE OF THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, WE CAN COME OUT OF THE GATE WITH THAT NEW 2026 BOND AND ACTUALLY MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL OF VISIBILITY THAT I KNOW THIS COMMISSION'S BEEN LOOKING FOR FOR A LONG TIME RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING. BUT I'D LIKE TO, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING THOUGH IS THAT WHILE WE HAVE SOME BREATHING SPACE, SURE, LET'S DESIGN THE NEW PROCESS BEFORE WE GET, UM, THE NEW BONDS DROPPED ON US, UM, BASED ON PAST EXPERIENCE. I THINK ONCE THAT BOND ELECTION, IF IT'S SUCCEEDS, THERE'S GONNA BE A FLURRY OF ACTIVITY AND EVERYBODY PUSHING TO GET THEIR PROJECT UP FRONT IN THE FIRST YEAR. AND, AND I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE THE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION TO THEIR, TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT CIP AND CAPITAL BUDGET PROJECT PROCESS THAT REALLY PUSHES EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE. AND THEN, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WOULD PUSH TO TRY TO DEVELOP A PROCESS BEFORE THE ELECTION INSTEAD OF WAITING TILL AFTER. YEAH. YEAH. IF, IF, IF I COULD ADD, UM, JUST FROM, UM, PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE ON THE COMMISSION, UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN VERY REACTIONARY, RIGHT? SO IT'D BE GOOD TO GO AND REVIEW THE COMMISSION'S PURVIEW, UM, AND LOOK AT SOME, LOOK AT THE VARIOUS KIND OF LEVERS AND OPTIONS WE HAVE AS, AS THE NEW BOND IS BEING DEVELOPED. RIGHT. UM, THINGS LIKE IF WE'RE PROVIDING O OVERSIGHT, DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE REVIEWING THE BOND LANGUAGE, RIGHT? IS IT CLEAR, CONCISE? AND, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE DOING THAT, BUT AS, AS, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, RIGHT. UM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW THAT AND MAKE A SUGGESTION OR TWO IF NEED BE. RIGHT? UM, SORT OF FROM GROUND UP. UM, AS FAR AS THE REPORTING GOES, I KNOW WE'VE ASKED, I MEAN, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UM, IN PREVIOUS TERMS, UH, REALLY FOCUSING ON REPORTING AND WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND STANDARDIZING IT, AND WE'RE STILL NOT GETTING THAT CONSISTENT REPORTING. I THINK THAT HELPS PROVIDE PROPER OVERSIGHT. UM, AND LARGELY, AND, AND I I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION, RIGHT? UM, I, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW TIMES, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE STANDARD REPORTING, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SPIN FORECAST, WHERE IT WAS, WHERE IT IS TODAY, ARE WE MEETING THE VOTER COMMITMENT AS FAR AS DATES GO, UM, ARE PROJECTS ON SCHEDULE, ARE THERE ANY MITIGATING FACTORS, LABOR SHORTAGES, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP OVER THE LAST YEARS THAT HAVE REALLY BEEN IMPACTFUL, UM, UH, JUST TO CREATE THAT AIR OF TRANSPARENCY, RIGHT? FOR, UM, TO HELP US PURSUE OUR CHARGE. I'D LIKE TO, AGAIN, FOLLOW UP ON, ON THAT SANTIAGO, ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS THE, THE TASK FORCE ON TASK FORCE HAS BEEN HEARING PART OF IN PUBLIC COMMENT IS CONCERNS, UM, NOT ABOUT THE PROJECT BEING COMPLETED ON TIME AND ON BUDGET, BUT THAT THE PROJECTS ARE NOT BEING COMPLETED AS THE, AS THE CITIZENS UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WERE PROMISED AT THE BOND ELECTION. AND THAT, THAT GETS BACK TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE REVIEWING THE BOND LANGUAGE, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S ON THE BALLOT, AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE CITY ACTUALLY COMMITTED TO? I MEAN, I THINK THE WHOLE POINT BEHIND, UH, THE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION IS, UH, NOT ONLY TRANSPARENCY, [00:30:01] UH, BUT IN ADDITION TO TRANSPARENCY, MAINTAINING A CREDIBILITY WITH THE PUBLIC, THAT THE BOND PROGRAM, WHEN THEY'RE ASKED TO VOTE ON A BOND PROGRAM, THEY'RE GONNA GET THE PROJECTS THAT THEY VOTE ON, THEY'RE GONNA GET THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER AND AT THE COST THAT THAT, THAT THEY WERE PRESENTED AT. UM, AND THAT IF WE, IF THE CITY LOSES THAT CREDIBILITY, THEY STAND THE CHANCE OF LOSING ACCESS TO FINANCING THROUGH BONDS, WHICH IS, UH, REALLY ESSENTIAL FOR THE CITY'S NOT ONLY GROWTH, BUT JUST OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. UM, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF US HAVING A HIGHER LEVEL OF CONVERSATION AROUND HOW WE PROVIDE THOSE THINGS TO THE PUBLIC WITH A GOOD DEADLINE OF THE, THE 26 BONDS. SO FULL PASSAGE, SO THAT WE'RE SET UP FOR SUCCESS. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF MEETING CADENCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I WAS WONDERING TO WHAT EXTENT THAT CONVERSATION MIGHT DOVETAIL OR NOT WITH THE SUN SETTING REVIEW PROCESS. UM, MY VERY LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS IS THAT THERE'S A PILOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW OF A FRAMEWORK THAT WILL BE EVENTUALLY IF IT, THE PILOT IS SUCCESSFUL, USED TO EVALUATE EVERY COMMISSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD STAY OR BE CONSOLIDATED OR CHANGE IN ITS MAKEUP IN SOME WAY. AND THAT OCTOBER 15TH DEADLINE IS JUST WHEN THAT, THAT PILOT IS, IS DUE. DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION PAST THAT DATE OF SORT OF WHEN CITY COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT OR RATIFY THAT FRAMEWORK AND AT WHAT POINT IT MIGHT HIT US AND WHETHER THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS NOT A SCHEDULE PAST THE PILOT. I MEAN, IN TERMS OF THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMISSION WAS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONS THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL LIST. UM, THEY ARE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THAT PROGRAM ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT BACK TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IN, UM, OCTOBER WITH THE RESULTS OF THE PILOT. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SCHEDULE PASSED THEN. UM, BUT I VERY MUCH THINK THAT GETTING OUR PROCESS, GETTING A, A NEW REFINED PROCESS IN PLACE NOW IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT IN HOW WE RESPOND TO THE, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WE WILL GET AS PART OF THE SUNSET PROVISION. UM, RIGHT NOW WE'D HAVE TO RESPOND BY SAYING, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, BUT IT HASN'T WORKED. AND I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE DID THIS, IT DIDN'T WORK, BUT WE, AND WE RECOGNIZE THIS, AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE PROPOSE TO DO GOING FORWARD. UM, ONE OF THOSE SUGGESTIONS WAS JUST A PRELIMINARY SUGGESTIONS THAT, THAT I THOUGHT OF FOR SOME TIME, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE, THE AUDIT COMMITTEES, UH, ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CAPITAL PROCESS IS THAT I BELIEVE WE OUGHT TO BE REPORTING TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND NOT TO COUNCIL. UH, WE HAVE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, UM, TO MY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE NEVER SEEN A RESPONSE. UM, AND I THINK THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS MORE FOCUSED ON THE PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. UH, AND IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO THAT WE WOULD BE REPORTING TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. WELL, DEPENDING ON THE TIMELINE, HOW MUCH TIME WE ARE GIVEN TO RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS. AND I NOTED THAT THE PILOT DOES INCLUDE A SELF-EVALUATION THAT WE WOULD DO AS A GROUP, AND IT INCLUDES STAKEHOLDER INPUT AS WELL. THOSE MIGHT BE GOOD INPUTS FOR WHATEVER OUR PROCESS ENDS UP BEING, IF THERE'S ENOUGH TIME. UM, IF NOT, MAYBE WE COULD GET OUR HANDS ON A COPY OF THAT SELF-EVALUATION TOOL AHEAD OF THE PILOT BEING OVER SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST SEE WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE QUESTIONED ON. I DON'T THINK THEY'VE FINALIZED THAT YET AS PART OF THEIR PROCESS. HAVE THEY? WELL, IF THEY'RE DOING A PILOT AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING WITH THE PILOTS. BUT I, I CAN ASK. YEAH. DOESN'T HURT. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE CLERK'S OFFICE. YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? NO, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I, I THINK I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT. UM, IT IS HELPFUL AND INSIGHTFUL AND INFORMATIVE TO GET UPDATES AND ON THE TIME AND THE BUDGETS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE, THESE, UM, THESE PUBLIC PROJECTS. BUT I [00:35:01] THINK WHERE WE'RE MISSING, UM, THE MARK HERE IS IN TERMS OF SCOPE. UH, AND I THINK THAT GETS BACK TO SOME OF SANTIAGO'S FEEDBACK AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SOLIDIFY THAT, OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCOPE AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE HOLDING, UM, THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT SCOPE, I THINK WOULD BE A POSITIVE OUTCOME. GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS UP. ABSOLUTELY. SO NOW, NOW, SO NOW WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO. YEAH. NO, I'M KIDDING. TO SEE IF I, I'VE CAPTURED THE ZEITGEIST. UM, IT, IT APPEARS THERE'S A, A CONSENSUS TO LOOK AT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF MM-HMM . MEETINGS IN THE NEW YEAR TO THOSE THAT WOULD BE A BENEFICIAL UPDATE. ESSENTIAL, YEAH. RATHER THAN JUST FILLING, FILLING TIME AND HAVING A KIND OF A, UM, DOG AND PONY SHOW, SO TO SPEAK, OF HERE, HERE'S THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION MM-HMM . BUT THAT WE SHOULD USE THE, THE TIME THAT WE DO HAVE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT FALL TO PLAN OUT A, A MORE, UM, RESPONSIVE OR, OR VALUE ADDED, UM, ROLE FOR THE COMMISSION. AND WE COULD, WE COULD CERTAINLY STRUCTURE THE, THE CALENDAR NEXT YEAR TO HAVE, UH, WHETHER IT'S WORKING SESSIONS OR, UM, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY THINK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND I, I WOULD AGREE WITH CHAIRMAN CURRAN, SOME OF THE, THE SUGGESTIONS YOU MADE, AND I, I THINK THAT, UM, IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR OWN DEPARTMENT'S PLAN FOR HOW WE CAN GET OUT IN FRONT OF, UM, MANAGING THE, THAT BOND EXECUTION AS WELL AS CITY LEADERSHIP. SO I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK THROUGH, BUT LET'S BUILD A SCHEDULE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT AND ALSO BE PROPERLY DEFERENTIAL TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING DOUBLE DUTY ON THE B TTIP. SO THE MM-HMM . THE WORK OF THIS GROUP DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THAT, CERTAINLY IN THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS OR SO. SO I, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL FOR THAT. UM, CHAIRMAN MCNABB TO, TO DISCUSS SOON HOW, HOW THAT COULD PLAY OUT OR HOW WE COULD SET UP SCHEDULE TO DO THOSE THINGS. OKAY. COULD WE START WITH THE CIP AND CAPITAL BUDGET? A BRIEFING ON THE, HOW THE CIP IS PUT TOGETHER, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET. WE'LL REACH OUT TO OUR PARTNERS IN, IN FSD AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SINCE THEY'RE THROUGH WITH ALL THAT. I'M SURE THEY'VE GOT TIME, ESPECIALLY SOON AS THEY GET THE BOND SALE OUT OF THE WAY. OKAY. AND THEN, [4. Discussion on the 2026 Bond Election Advisory Task Force recent meeting items. ] UH, THE NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM HAS TO DO WITH THE BOND ELECTION ADVISORY TASK FORCE, RECENT MEETING TIMES, MEETING ITEMS. ANY UPDATE ON THAT? I HAPPY FOR EITHER OF MY OTHER, UH, TASK FORCE MEMBERS TO CHIME IN. I, WE, UM, HAVE BEEN MEETING IN WORKING GROUPS. WE'VE ONLY JUST RECEIVED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THE FULL STAFF LIST OF VETTED PROJECTS THAT IT'S NOW OUR JOB TO WEIGH AMONG OTHERS. UM, WHAT ELSE AM I MISSING? JUST FOR THE INFORMATION OF THE, OF THE THANK YOU FOR THE COMMISSION. THAT LIST IS AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR THE COMMISSION. IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, YOU HAVE TO GO TO CAPITAL PROJECTS DELIVERY. NICOLE TOLD ME THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO LINK IT WITH THE, YES, WE ARE TRYING TO LINK IT. UM, BUT IF YOU GO TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES WEBSITE, UM, IF YOU GO UNDER PROJECTS AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE 2026 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND, IT'S GOT A LINK, UM, GIVES A LOT OF INFORMATION REGARDING THE WORKING GROUPS. UM, AND THEN AS YOU SCROLL DOWN, THERE'S PERTINENT INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING THE MEMO AND THE LIST THAT WENT OUT, UH, THE END OF JULY. AND THE WORKING GROUPS, ALL OF THE WORKING GROUPS ARE LISTED, UM, ON THE SIDE. AND IF YOU CLICK ON THOSE, UH, YOU'LL SEE THEIR SCHEDULE FOR THEIR, THE, ALL OF THE WORKING GROUPS HAVE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE PROJECTS, THE PART OF THE LIST THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THAT PARTICULAR WORKING GROUP. AND THEY WILL, OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS BE HAVING PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND THOSE, UH, IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON, UH, THE LIST OF THE SCHEDULE IS IN THE INDIVIDUAL WORK GROUPS. SO, UM, THIS ISN'T A PROPOSAL OR ANYTHING, BUT, UH, THIS MORNING AT A WORKING GROUP [00:40:01] MEETING THAT KEN AND I WERE BOTH, UH, AT, THE QUESTION CAME UP AS TO WHICH ITEMS ON THE STAFF LIST, UM, HAD ANTECEDENTS IN PRIOR BONDS. UM, LIKE TO WHAT EXTENT CERTAIN ITEMS WERE EXTENSIONS OR EXPANSIONS OF EXISTING BOND WORK VERSUS ENTIRELY NEW PROJECTS. THAT SEEMS LIKE A NATURAL AREA OF OVERLAP WITH THIS COMMISSION. UM, THOUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD HANDLE THAT. PERHAPS NOT AT ALL. , STEVE, YOU READY? SUGGESTIONS? I, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT THEY GOT A BOND, IT'S SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT, IT PASSED, RIGHT? THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT AND NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, PHASE TWO OF WHATEVER THEY PROPOSED. SO IS THE QUESTION JUST TO BE ABLE, HOW TO IDENTIFY THOSE OR HOW TO PRIORITIZE? YEAH, I THINK FROM THE WORKING GROUP'S, UH, PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS, IT WOULD BE A USEFUL PIECE OF INFORMATION TO KNOW IN OUR, WHEN WE'RE RANKING THESE PROJECTS, WHETHER THEY ARE CONNECTED TO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. OKAY. THROUGH, THROUGH A SO THAT THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED YEAH. AS THAT LIST MOVES FORWARD, I, YEAH, I CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO THAT, TO THE RIGHT PERSON WHO COULD MAKE THAT, UM, WHO COULD MAKE THAT FLAG HAPPEN. SO I'LL PASS THAT ON. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ] MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK WE HAVE ONE, THE CIP AND, AND THE BUDGET FOR THAT. AN INTERESTING COMMENT ABOUT REPORTING TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AS OPPOSED TO THE COUNCIL OR MAYBE TO BOTH. OKAY. ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS BESIDES THE CIP IN THE BUDGET? OKAY. UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, I THINK WE'RE ADJOURNED. SORRY. SORRY. I HAD ONE COMMENT. OH YEAH, PLEASE. DID THE ANNUAL INTERNAL REVIEW, UH, GET COMPLETED AND PUBLISHED? YES. OKAY. YES. IT'S MISSED IT, IT'S SUBMITTED. IT WAS SUBMITTED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUBLISHED IT YET OR NOT. UM, YEAH, IT WAS DUE AND JOHN GOT IT TO THEM ON JULY 31ST. AWESOME. THANK YOU. COMMISSION AND I, AND I HAVE A COPY OF IT IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU'D LIKE. YEAH, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO, I'LL GET, TAKE A LOOK. OKAY. I'LL SEND, I APPRECIATE IT. MM-HMM . THANKS. ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT. WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S SLATED ON OUR NEXT MEETING? SORRY, I KNOW THAT'S TWICE YOU WANT NOT TO DO A CALL, BUT, UH, IT, IT'S SEPTEMBER. WANTED TO SEE WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. YEAH. AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT WE, SO FOR SEPTEMBER I BELIEVE WE HAD FIRE EMS FIRE. EMES? YES. SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY. MM-HMM . OR SEPTEMBER. OKAY. I THINK SO. MM-HMM . THAT'S OUR AUGUST MEETING WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE TBD. UM, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT TIME TO SNAG, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO KIND OF HELP, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THIS GROUP MAY HAVE HAD EDD THAT WAS ECONOMIC. YEAH, WE HAD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, WE HAD HAD THEM, BUT WE FIGURED DEPARTMENT SERVICES HELP US. OKAY. SO FIRE THE SAFETY IS WHAT THE CURRENT FOCUS IS, RIGHT? YES, I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. IN SEPTEMBER THE 17TH. 17TH, YES, SIR. BE OUR NEXT MEET. AND, AND WILL THAT GROUP SPEAK TO ANY, ANY PROJECTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL BOND FUNDING OUT IN THE FUTURE AS OPPOSED TO DOING MORE OF A RETROSPECTIVE? LIKE I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE TYPICALLY SEEN, I, I BELIEVE THEY'D BE OPEN TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS. THEY'RE CERTAINLY PARTICIPATING IN THE, THE FORECAST AND IDENTIFYING REQUIREMENTS FOR FUTURE BONDS. SO THEY'D, THEY'D BE ABLE TO TALK TO THAT. UM, THEY'D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO PREPARE AND UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THEIR CURRENT BONDS, BUT THEY'D CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF NEW REQUIREMENTS. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MEAT OF THEIR PRESENTATION SINCE THEY'RE BOTH MOSTLY SMOOTH OUT. MOST EVERYTHING IS WRAPPING UP. YES, SIR. [00:45:01] OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? AND WE'LL STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. IT'S 2 52. THANK YOU. AND BEFORE THREE O'CLOCK . THANKS EVERYONE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.