* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
          [CALL TO ORDER]
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          WE'RE GONNA, ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK, UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE 2026 BOND ELECTION ADVISORY TASK FORCE TO ORDER AT 2 0 1. 
          ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS TAKE ROLL CALL. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT ON HERE. 
          CAN WE TAKE ROLL CALL? YEP. 
          GARY MERRIT. 
          PRESENT. 
          NICOLE CONLEY. 
          DEWEY SMITH. 
          PRESENT. 
          LUKE METZKER. 
          PRESENT. 
          FRANCIS JORDAN. 
          HERE. 
          ANA AGUIRE. 
          PRESENT. 
          KABA WHITE. 
          HERE. 
          RACHEL STONE. 
          KENNETH STANLEY. 
          HERE. 
          BENJAMIN SBY. 
          PRESENT. 
          ROBERT DELP. 
          NOLU. 
          TINA CANNON. 
          ROBERT LER. 
          JEREMIAH HENDRICKS. 
          PRESENT. 
          DONALD JACKSON. 
          KATRINA MILLER. 
          JC DWYER. 
          HERE. 
          DAVID SULLIVAN. 
          HERE. 
          HAYDEN WALKER. 
          MARY HAGER PRESENT. 
          CHARLES CURRY HERE. 
          WE 
          [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
WILL START WITH OUR REMOTE SPEAKERS. 
          UM, I HAVE ANDY SMITH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL START WITH ANDY SMITH. 
          OKAY. 
          BRINGING THEM OVER. 
          HI THERE. 
          CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, SIR. 
          YES. 
          GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO MY NAME IS ANDY SMITH, UM, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY FOOD POLICY BOARD. 
          UH, BUT TODAY I'M WANTING TO OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AS AN INTERESTED CITIZEN HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, AS MANY OF YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE, BOTH UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY HAVE INVESTED SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES INTO DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE FOOD PLAN. 
          UM, THAT PLAN WAS DEVELOPED WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITY CONSULTATION AND ENGAGEMENT BEFORE IT WAS ADOPTED BY BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY LAST FALL. 
          UM, TODAY I'D LIKE TO JUST MENTION TO YOU ALL, UM, THE GOAL, ONE OF THE FOOD PLAN, WHICH ADDRESSES FARMLAND PRESERVATION IN THE CAPITAL REGION. 
          AND THIS GOAL RECOGNIZES THAT PRODUCTIVE, AFFORDABLE FARMLAND IS REALLY THE FOUNDATION OF ANY HEALTHY FUNCTIONAL FOOD SYSTEM. 
          AND THAT WITHOUT THAT PROTECTED FARMLAND ARE FOOD SYSTEM WILL REMAIN PRETTY VULNERABLE. 
          A WORKING GROUP FROM THE FOOD POLICY BOARD HAS BEEN CREATING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN CAN INVEST IN FARMLAND PRESERVATION AND STRATEGY. 
          1.2 OF THE FOOD PLAN EXPLICITLY CALLS OUT GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AS A MECHANISM TO FUND LAND CONSERVATION. 
          UM, FUNDS APPROPRIATED, UH, FOR EITHER FEE, SIMPLE PURCHASE OR CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON FARMLAND, UM, WE REALLY THINK WOULD HELP CATALYZE INVESTMENTS FROM USDA OR THE NATURAL AND, AND THE NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION SERVICE, UH, POTENTIALLY OTHER COUNTY GOVERNMENTS IN THE AREA, MUNICIPALITIES AND PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY TO HELP PROTECT PRODUCTIVE FARMLAND AND LAND THAT THE CITY PRESERVES CAN THEN BE LEASED, UH, TO FARM BUSINESSES PROVIDING INDISPENSABLE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR FOOD SYSTEM. 
          AND FARMLAND IS NOT ONLY THE BASE OF THE FOOD SYSTEM PYRAMID, IF, IF IT'S MANAGED PROPERLY. 
          FARMLAND REALLY ADDRESSES A NUMBER OF OTHER CITY PRIORITIES, SUCH AS WATERSHED PROTECTION, UH, FLOOD MITIGATION, CARBON SEQUESTRATION, THE, UM, PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACE HABITAT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR WILDLIFE AND POLLINATORS, AND OF COURSE SUPPORT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND WHEN LAND IS FARMED ACCORDING TO REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE PRINCIPLES, WHICH THE FOOD PLANT ALSO LAYS OUT, UM, UM, UH, GUIDELINES FOR, UH, THE BENEFIT TO THE SURROUNDING ECOSYSTEM AROUND THAT FARM ARE, ARE REALLY IMMENSE AND COMPOUNDING. 
          UM, AND OUR FARMLAND PRESERVATION CHALLENGES HERE IN THE AUSTIN AREA ARE, ARE PRETTY URGENT. 
          UM, FARMLAND IS BEING LOST TO DEVELOPMENT AT A, AN ALARMING RATE. 
          UH, BETWEEN 2007 AND AND 2000 OR 2022. 
          UM, THE NUMBER OF ACRES BEING FARMED DECREASED BY OVER 64,000 ACRES. 
          WERE NEARLY 25%, UM, OF WHAT WAS BEING FARMED IN 2007. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO LOSE OVER 6,000 ACRES PER YEAR TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND MOST OF THAT LAND IS GETTING PAVED OVER. 
          AND, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR MOST PRODUCTIVE SOILS. 
          SO IN ORDER TO AVOID LOSING OUR REMAINING FARMLAND AND WITH IT THE ECOSYSTEM SERVICES THAT THAT LAND PROVIDES, WE NEED STRONG PUBLIC INVESTMENT 
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IN FARMLAND PRESERVATION. 
          SO I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THIS TASK FORCE TO, UM, INCLUDE PLANS IN THE 2026 BOND PACKAGE PROPOSAL THAT PRESERVE, UM, THIS ESSENTIAL AND IRREPLACEABLE FARMLAND. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WE HAVE AURA HOUSTON REMOTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BRING THEM OVER. 
          IT'S JUST ME. 
          MS. HOUSTON, CAN YOU HEAR US? HELLO? ORA HOUSTON, ARE YOU THERE AGAIN? YEAH, RESPOND. 
          SO I SENT A COUPLE REQUESTS FOR, UM, MUTE OR MIC, UH, SO SHE'S NOT RESPONDING AT THE MOMENT THOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING. 
          SHOULD WE TRY THE NEXT ONE TO SEE IF, UM, IS NADIA BARBO, IS SHE ON, UM, WHAT WAS HER NAME AGAIN? NADIA BARBO. 
          I DO HAVE A NUMBER I CAN'T IDENTIFY. 
          I'LL BRING THEM OVER JUST IN CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          HELLO THERE. 
          IS THIS NADIA? OH, THEY ARE GONE, SO MAYBE NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY ARE GONE. 
          SO, UM, IS THAT ALL THE VIRTUAL? THOSE ARE THE TWO, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          COULD YOU TRY THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AGAIN, PLEASE? YEAH, LET'S TRY HER AGAIN. 
          DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S WORKING. 
          SO DO YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO THE PEOPLE IN PERSON? THEN WE CAN COME BACK. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          JEREMY STRIFFLER. 
          ALEXANDRIA ANDERSON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UM, MY NAME IS JEREMY RIFER. 
          I AM A RESIDENT AND I LIKE THE CALLERS COMMON AND INTERESTED CITIZEN. 
          I'LL ECHO THAT AS WELL. 
          UH, WANTED TO SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE KIND OF A UNIQUE ROLE FOR THE AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AS THEIR DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE. 
          AND SO THROUGH THAT WORK OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS, UH, WHERE I HAVE BEEN OVERSEEING THE USE OF EXISTING FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS, AS WELL AS THE REPURPOSING OF UNDERUTILIZED SITES. 
          YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH OUR OVER 10,000 TEACHERS AND STAFF, AND HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO HEAR THEIR NEEDS, WHICH ARE ALWAYS ABOUT FOR FAMILY SIZED, ATTAINABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE, HIGH QUALITY CHILD AND SENIOR CARE, YOU KNOW, REDUCED COMMUTING COSTS. 
          AND IN ADDITION, I GET TO SPEAK WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND ALL THOSE NEEDS ARE ALWAYS ECHOED. 
          BUT IN ADDITION, THE COMMUNITY OFTEN CITES HOW THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ACCESS TO PARKS AND AMENITIES, AFFORDABLE OFFICE AND RETAIL SPACE, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS. 
          AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ABILITY TO LIVE AND THRIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. 
          YOU KNOW, AUSTIN, ISD HAS SERVED AS MORE THAN A SCHOOL SYSTEM, BUT ALSO PLAYS THE ROLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD PARK VOTING, CENTER GATHERING SPACE, REUNIFICATION HUBS, WARMING SHELTERS AND BEYOND. 
          YOU KNOW, IN MY JOB IT'S BEEN CRUCIAL TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THE ASSETS WE HAVE. 
          SO WE CAN THINK STRATEGICALLY AND HOLISTICALLY ABOUT THE SYSTEM. 
          AND AS YOU WORK THROUGH THE BOND PLANNING PROCESS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE CITY CAN BEST LEVERAGE ALL THE EXISTING PUBLIC ASSETS WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          NOT THOSE JUST BY OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE COUNTY CENTRAL HEALTH, AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE, ET CETERA. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOND IS HAVING, IS MAKING DEEP INVESTMENTS TO ENSURE THAT AUSTIN RESIDENTS HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO BEST ADDRESS THE ONGOING CHALLENGES WE FACE AS A CONTINUOUSLY GROWING, EVOLVING CITY. 
          AND 
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I'M SURE YOU'RE MORE THAN AWARE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT IS TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT CONSOLIDATIONS. 
          AND WHILE IT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING, IT WILL PRESENT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US, UH, IN THIS CITY TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE BEST USE THOSE PUBLIC SITES. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NO LONGER GONNA SERVE AS, YOU KNOW, K THROUGH 12 SCHOOLS, WHAT ELSE CAN THEY BE? AND I THINK THE CITY HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY TO LEVERAGE THOSE TYPES OF ASSETS, UM, TO ADDRESS KINDA ALL THESE NEEDS THAT REALLY HELP OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF LIVE AND WORK IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE, BUT ALSO JUST HELP THE COMMUNITY HAVE THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE OFTEN, UM, LACKING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI EVERYONE. 
          OH, THAT'S LOUD. 
           . 
          UH, AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS ALEXANDRIA ANDERSON. 
          I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE EAST MLK CONTACT TEAM, AND ALSO AS CHAIR OF THE MARTIN LUTHER KING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH JEREMY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, EXTENDED AREA AND DISTRICT ONE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AS FAR AS THE REPURPOSING OF SIMS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ONE OF THOSE SCHOOLS THAT WAS RECENTLY CLOSED DOWN AND WELL CONSOLIDATED INTO NORMAN SIMS. UM, AND THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT SIMS IS NOT ONE THAT IS JUST ISOLATED TO THAT AREA. 
          I KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT, AS JEREMY HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT WE CAN SAY, LOOK TO LEVERAGE ON THE STATE AND CITY LEVEL AND HAVE THAT PPP. 
          SO THAT PUBLIC PARTNER, PRIVATE PARTNER, UH, PARTNERSHIP GOING, UM, TRANSFORMING THE SPACE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE SEEING IT AS A MULTICULTURAL OR MULTIFUNCTIONAL, UM, RESILIENCE HUB. 
          SO LEVERAGING THE EXISTING STRUCTURES. 
          ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ALREADY HAVE CLASSROOMS, GYMS, CAFETERIAS, PLAYGROUNDS, AND LIBRARIES THAT CAN BE REPURPOSED IN KEY SPACES FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          FLEXIBLE USE OF ROOMS, SO CLASSROOMS CAN BE BECOME MULTIPURPOSE SPACES FOR WORKSHOPS, TRAINING, HEALTH CLINICS, LARGER SPACES LIKE GYMS AND CAFETERIAS CAN HOST FOOD DISTRIBUTION PROGRAMS, EVENTS AND RESILIENCE PLANNING INITIATIVES. 
          UM, IN OUR AREA WE HAVE FOOD DESERTS, SO ADDRESSING FOOD INSECURITY, SETTING UP A COMMUNITY KITCHEN, USING THE CAFETERIA TO LAUNCH PROGRAMS TO HELP MEAL PREP, NUTRITION EDUCATION, AND FREE AND LOW, LOW COST MEALS FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. 
          CREATING A COMMUNITY CARD GARDEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VIBRANT AND HAS BEEN GROWING IN EAST AUSTIN. 
          AND EVEN I'M A PART OF ANOTHER GROUP WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD UP THE, UH, TREE CANOPY FROM THE RECENT STORMS THAT WE'VE HAD. 
          SO LOOKING TO TRANSFORM OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND SPACES AND GREEN SPACES INTO GARDENS WHERE LOCALS CAN GROW FOR PRODUCE, FOSTER COMMUNITY, UM, FOOD INDEPENDENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY. 
          AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO ESTABLISH A FOOD PANTRY, UTILIZING STORAGE AREAS TO HOUSE DONATED FOOD FOR DISTRIBUTIONS AND EMERGENCIES AND REGULAR COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          UM, SUSTAINABILITY IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT, UM, TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          SO ENERGY USE, UM, ENERGY EFFICIENT UPGRADES, RETROFITTING THE BUILDING TO ENERGY EFFICIENT LIGHTING, HVAC SYSTEMS, WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES TO REDUCE OPERATIONAL COSTS ON RENEWABLE ENERGY FOCUS. 
          SO INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS, PANELS OR OTHER RENEWABLE SYSTEMS TO POWER THE HUB AND SERVE AS A COMMUNITY MODEL FOR SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES. 
          UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS SERVICES, ONSITE CLINICS, UM, REPURPOSING CLASSROOMS INTO SPACES WHERE LOCAL HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS OFFER SCREENING, MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, UM, SUPPORTING MENTAL HEALTH, UM, OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. 
          AND I KNOW WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY NEIGHBORS COMMUNITY, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS IS THE THING I HAVE A LOT. 
          OH MY GOSH, . 
          SO COMMUNITY EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS HIGHLIGHTING. 
          SO I'LL JUST END WITH THIS. 
          BENEFITS OF A COMMUNITY RESILIENCE HUB OR BEING ABLE TO LEVERAGE THESE OPPORTUNITIES OR BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE WOULD BE HEALTHIER NEIGHBORHOODS ADDRESSING FOOD INSECURITY, HEALTH DISPARITIES, YOUTH EMPOWER PEOPLE TO LIVE OVER ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP, RESILIENT COMMUNITY AND SOCIAL THAT CAN GO ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MARIE CAMINO AND JACK NOS. 
          HELLO. 
          OKAY. 
          HI EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS MARIE CAMINO. 
          I'M WITH THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IN TEXAS. 
          UM, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THEM AND AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN. 
          UM, SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TODAY. 
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TNC TEXAS HAS PRESERVED OVER A MILLION ACRES OF LAND AND OVER 200 MILES OVER RIVERS AND STREAMS ACROSS OUR STATE. 
          UM, IN AUSTIN SPECIFICALLY, WE'VE HELPED PRESERVE OVER 40,000 ACRES. 
          UM, A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN, OF COURSE, IN ASSIST FOR LAND TRANSACTIONS AND THINGS LIKE EASEMENTS. 
          UM, AND WHILE THAT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCE, THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY SPECIFICALLY. 
          UM, SO THE NATURE CONSERVANCY STRONGLY ENCOURAGES THE PRI PRIORITIZATION OF NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS, OTHERWISE CALLED NBS IN THE SCORING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ALL BOND PROJECTS. 
          UM, NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS USE OR IMITATE NATURAL FEATURES AND PROCESSES TO INCREASE RESILIENCE WHILE PROVIDING BENEFITS TO PEOPLE IN THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, IT'S KIND OF AN UMBRELLA CONCEPT. 
          IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, UM, GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, NBS HAS BEEN SHOWN TO POSITIVELY IMPACT THINGS LIKE AIR QUALITY, WATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY, HABITAT AND BIODIVERSITY AND MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH OF AUSTIN RESIDENTS. 
          UM, SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS TRADITIONALLY KIND OF LED BY EXAMPLE FOR NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS. 
          THEY'RE INCLUDED IN OUR TECHNICAL GUIDANCE MANUALS AND SUPPORTED BY LAWS LIKE THE 2013 WATERSHED PROTECTION ORDINANCE. 
          UM, THEY'RE ALSO NAMED IN THE 2020 CLIMATE EQUITY PLANS NATURAL SYSTEM GOALS, UM, SPECIFIC, SPECIFICALLY GOAL FOUR. 
          UM, BUT THERE IS CURRENTLY NO REQUIREMENT THAT NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS BE PRIORITIZED OR USED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BOND PROJECTS. 
          UM, ALSO IN THE PLAN IS A COMMITMENT TO REGIONAL COLLABORATION. 
          UM, IN 2024, TRAVIS COUNTY PASSED A RESOLUTION AND INCLUDING PROFICIENCY IN NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS AS PART OF THEIR SCORING CRI CRITERIA FOR ALL COUNTY FUNDED PROJECTS. 
          UM, I HAVE THESE COMMENTS AND THAT, UH, RESOLUTION ON NEXT TO THE SIGN-IN SHEET IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE LANGUAGE OF THAT. 
          UM, BUT, UM, SIMILARLY, DALLAS PASS A COMPREHENSIVE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE USE OF NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS IN THEIR 2024 BOND IMPLEMENTATION. 
          UM, SO IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE UPCOMING 2026 BOND, AUSTIN CAN CONTINUE THIS LEADERSHIP AND COLLABORATION WITH SURROUNDING AREAS BY INCLUDING NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS AND THE BOND DESIGN STANDARDS AS A GOAL AND PREFERENCE AND PROJECT SCORING. 
          UM, THE CITY SHOULD LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND SPEARHEAD THE TYPE OF DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT, EXCUSE ME, WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR BY DOING IT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          MR. EXCUSE, ARE THERE ANY MORE? MR. NOS DIDN'T. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL GO BACK TO REMOTE. 
          WHILE WE, WHILE WE CAN'T RESPOND TO CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THAT WE ARE STILL ACCEPTING IDEAS ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE BOND. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WE ARE STILL ACCEPTING IDEAS ON THE BOND WEBSITE IF PEOPLE HAVE IDEAS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS TASK FORCE. 
          SO I DO RECOMMEND THOSE TO PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR IDEAS TO THE, TO THE TASK FORCE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA TRY OUR REMOTES AGAIN TO SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, SOUNDS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          OR HOUSTON FIRST. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE NADIA IS ONLINE. 
          YES, WE GOT NADIA. 
          WELL, I'LL JUST SAYING, I THINK NADIA'S ON IF WE WANNA TRY HER. 
          AND I'M EMAILING WITH MS. HOUSTON. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HI, UH, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, MY NAME IS NADIA BARBO. 
          I AM, UH, A CO-CHAIR OF THE EKAY CONTACT TEAM WITH ALEXANDRIA ANDERSON. 
          UM, AND I'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE SIMS REPURPOSING PROCESS THAT A ISD, UH, REAL ESTATE TEAM LED BY, UH, JEREMY RIFER HAS BEEN, UM, GOING THROUGH IN THE LAST, UM, TWO YEARS. 
          UM, AND I ALSO SERVE AS A SECRETARY OF THE PECAN SPRINGS, SPRINGDALE HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, SO, UM, YEAH, I LOVE THIS IDEA OF, UM, CONNECTING WITH THIS GROUP. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR, UH, QUITE SOME TIME ABOUT THIS BUILDING THAT'S VERY SPECIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD LOTS AND LOTS OF ENGAGEMENT, MORE SO THAN ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY, UH, LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH MONTH AFTER MONTH OF DIFFERENT, HAVING DIFFERENT SPECIAL SPEAKERS WHO KNOW ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, AND ALMOST ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY. 
          LOTS OF QUESTIONS, LOTS OF 
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INTEREST. 
          UM, OF COURSE, EVERYONE REALLY WANTS TO SUPPORT OUR TEACHERS IN A ISD, SO THAT'S A HUGE PRIORITY. 
          I KNOW IT'S A-A-I-S-D PROPERTY ANYWAYS. 
          UM, BUT EVERYTHING THAT, UM, I THINK BOTH OF THEM WERE SHARING, ALL KINDS OF IDEAS ARE SUPPORTED, LIKE COMMUNITY GARDEN, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE CHILDCARE, RESILIENCE HUB, ALL OF THAT STUFF. 
          UM, SOME OF THE KEY POINTS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE BUILDINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO STAY AT SOME SEMBLANCE OF THEIR CURRENT SHAPE, UM, AND SCALE, UM, AND REUSE THEM WHERE POSSIBLE. 
          UM, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT IN THIS AREA ALONG SPRINGDALE OFTEN, UM, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY PLACES TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. 
          UM, PRETTY MUCH LIBRARIES AND CHURCHES, THAT'S ABOUT IT. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH COMMERCIAL SPACE, UM, IN THIS AREA, OR IN SOME CASES, THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT DOES EXIST IS LIKE INCREDIBLY, UM, SORT OF OUT OF REACH, UM, OR KIND OF A COMMUNITY. 
          IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A COMMUNITY TYPE SPACE. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, HAVING SOMETHING LIKE A RESILIENCE HUB OR SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE CAN GATHER WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY GREAT. 
          UM, AND I GUESS THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS, UM, IF ANYONE HERE IS LAND USE PROFESSIONAL OR KNOWS ANY, UM, I JUST WANNA COMMEND THE A ISD REAL ESTATE TEAM AND THE COMMUNITY, UM, INPUT PEOPLE AT A ISD BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A, UH, REMARKABLY DIFFERENT, UM, PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAN IT IS NORMALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO TRADITIONAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS. 
          UM, THEY'VE ALLOWED THE TIMELINE TO GO ON FOR SOME TIME, AND THAT'S SUPER UNIQUE. 
          UM, USUALLY COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ASKED TO MAKE A BUNCH OF DECISIONS WITHIN TWO MONTHS. 
          UM, AND THIS HAS BEEN MUCH LONGER THAN THIS, THAN THAT. 
          SO, UM, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEIR COLLABORATION AND THANKS FOR, UH, ALLOWING US TO TALK TODAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO THE FIRST AGENDA 
          [1. Approval the minutes of the regular meeting of the 2026 Bond Election Advisory Task Force (BEATF) on July 28, 2025.]
ITEM, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, WHICH I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO MOVE, MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED. 
          SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. 
          IT'S MOVE AND SECONDED. 
          ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 28TH MEETING? CORRECTIONS, SEE, SEEING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES. 
          AYE. 
          ONE ABSTENTION. 
          YEAH, ANNA'S GONNA ABSTAIN. 
          ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE 
          [2. Staff briefing from the Office of Climate Action and Resilience on climate and resilience criteria to score projects. ]
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, A STAFF BRIEF BRIEFING FROM THE OFFICE OF CLIMATE ACTION AND RESILIENCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, TASK FORCE. 
          I'M ZACH BALLMER, UH, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF CLIMATE ACTION RESILIENCE. 
          AND I HAVE WITH ME TODAY ALONG WITH ME, BRADEN LATHAM JONES, CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE OFFICE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON TASK, TASK FORCE MEMBERS. 
          GREAT. 
          SO, UH, I WAS CONTACTED BY THE CHAIR, UH, IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS TO COME, UH, AND TALK TO THE TASK FORCE ABOUT CLIMATE AND CRITERIA AND PRIORITIZATION AND HOW THIS IS BEING INTEGRATED INTO THE BOND PROCESS. 
          SO I HAVE A FEW SHORT SLIDES TODAY TO SORT OF WALK THROUGH, UH, WHERE WE ARE IN THIS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE, LET'S SEE. 
          UH, SO FIRST I'M JUST GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, OUR OFFICE AND HOW WE'RE SUPPORTING THE BOND PROCESS. 
          THEN, UH, STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE, THE CAUSES AND, UM, THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          THEN, UH, DEFINITIONS AND THEN THE DRAFT CRITERIA THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES. 
          SO AT THE OFF AT THE OFFICE OF CLIMATE ACTION RESILIENCE, UM, WE FOCUS ON, UH, IMPLEMENTING THE AUSTIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN. 
          SO MITIGATION OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          WE ALSO FOCUS ON RESILIENCE AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE, ADAPTING TO A CHANGING CLIMATE, AND HOW OUR CITY IS PREPARED FOR A CHANGING CLIMATE. 
          WE ALSO WORK ON, UH, THIS LOCAL FOOD SYSTEM, UH, SUSTAINABLE FOOD SYSTEM. 
          UM, AND THEN ACTUALLY STARTING IN OCTOBER, UH, THE URBAN FORESTRY DIVISION FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS COMING TO OUR OFFICE. 
          SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE FOUR MAIN, UM, TOPICS THAT WE FOCUS ON AT, UH, CLIMATE ACTION AND RESILIENCE. 
          AND WE LIKE TO THINK ABOUT OUR WORK KIND OF IN THREE, UM, THREE CATEGORIES. 
          AND THESE CATEGORIES BASICALLY HAVE BEEN, UM, APPLYING TO THIS BOND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          UH, SO FIRST WE DO LEADERSHIP. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE DEVELOPED AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT SUPPORT, UH, CLIMATE ACTION THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTMENT PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN 2024. 
          AND THEN THE COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE IMPLEMENTATION 
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PROGRAM, WHICH WAS RELEASED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE ES EFFORTS HAVE CREATED, CREATED, UM, EXTENSIVE CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL LIST OF PROJECTS, COSTS, BENEFITS, UM, TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          UM, SECOND, WE ADVISE, SO A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE NOT IN THE LEAD, OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE IN THE LEAD AND WE SUPPORT, UM, WITH HOW, UH, DO YOU INCORPORATE CLIMATE AND RESILIENCE THINKING INTO THE WORK THAT THE CITY DOES. 
          UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, SUPPORTING ASSET OWNER DEPARTMENTS, ANSWERING QUESTIONS, DEVELOPING CRITERIA, UH, WORKING TO CREATE THIS INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE TODAY. 
          UH, AND THEN FINALLY, COORDINATION. 
          UM, SO WE COORDINATE AND CONNECT THE DOTS, UM, BECAUSE THESE ISSUES ARE OFTEN CROSS DEPARTMENTAL, CROSS SECTORAL, THEY'RE ADDRESSING LOTS OF DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT SOMETIMES ARE, UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS SORT OF LOSE TRACK OF. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL BOND DEVELOPMENT WORKING GROUP FOR THE LAST YEAR, AND ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO CONNECT THE DOTS ON, ON THIS TOPIC THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE BOND DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WHEN I CAME, I CAME TO THE TASK FORCE FOUR, SIX MONTHS AGO, MULTIPLE MONTHS AGO, AND TALKED ABOUT, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE AND INTEGRATION INTO THE BOND. 
          UM, AND SO WE HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          I KNOW THE WORD CLIMATE BOND AND CLIMATE INTEGRATION INTO THE BOND PROCESS HAVE BEEN USED A LOT. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE, THIS IS SORT OF OUR THINKING AT THE OFFICE AND HOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS ON THIS. 
          SO THE FIRST IS PROJECTS FUNDED BY A BOND THAT MEET ALL THE CRITERIA FOR VOTER APPROVED BONDS THAT DIRECTLY ADDRESS CLIMATE, CLIMATE CHANGE BY EITHER REDUCING EMISSIONS OR ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          SO AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT LIKE THAT WOULD BE LAND PURCHASES TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY ECOSYSTEMS AND CARBON SEQUESTRATION. 
          UM, AND AS YOU SAW THROUGH THE LISTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, PRODUCED OR POTENTIAL PROJECTS, UM, THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE, ARE IN THOSE LISTS. 
          UM, THE SECOND WAY THAT CLIMATE CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO, UM, A BOND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS THROUGH INTEGRATION OF PRINCIPLES, POLICIES AND APPROACHES TO REDUCE EMISSIONS AND INCREASE RESILIENCE TO A CHANGING CLIMATE INTO THE DEPARTMENTAL BOND PROPOSALS, RIGHT? BECAUSE OUR DEPARTMENTS AND ALL OF THIS WORK AT THE CITY, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET WORK DONE IN WITH VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSES. 
          BUT HOW DO YOU INTERSECT CLIMATE ACTION INTO THAT WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, A DEPARTMENT IS FULFILLING THEIR MISSION AND TO DELIVERING, UM, UH, A PRODUCT AND A, UM, A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO INTEGRATING CLIMATE AND MAXIMIZING CLIMATE BENEFITS IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS. 
          SO, AND EX THE EXAMPLE OF THIS IS A NEW LIBRARY IS BUILT BECAUSE A NEW LIBRARY IS NEEDED IN AN AREA, AND THAT LIBRARY ONCE CONSTRUCTED, WOULD ACHIEVE LEAD PLATINUM CERTIFICATION, HAS SOLAR, HAS BATTERIES, UM, SO IT COULD, UM, SUPPORT THE, THE FACILITY IN TIMES OF NEED AND ESSENTIALLY HAVE THE LOWEST, UM, CARBON FOOTPRINT THAT IT COULD ACHIEVE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE SECOND WAY. 
          AND THAT'S MOSTLY, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY. 
          SO IN TERMS OF, UH, DEVELOPING CRITERIA AND WORKING WITH CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES, IN TERMS OF, UM, CRITERIA THAT ARE GONNA GO INTO THEIR, UH, RUBRIC TO ASSESS PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED ACROSS ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, UM, WE STARTED WITH TWO, TWO TOPICS. 
          SO THE FIRST IS CLIMATE MITIGATION, AND THE SECOND IS CLIMATE RESILIENCE. 
          SO JUST TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND HOW THIS APPLIES. 
          SO WHEN WE SAY CLIMATE MITIGATION, WE MEAN ACTIONS THAT AVOID, REDUCE OR CAPTURE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAT ARE CAUSING CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          UM, SO THE KIND OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN A BOND PROCESS ARE WHERE ARE PROJECTS BUILT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHERE IT'S BUILT HAS A BIG IMPACT ON WHO'S DRIVING THERE, UM, HOW FAR THEY'RE DRIVING TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS, HOW IS THE PROJECT BUILT, RIGHT? WHAT STANDARDS IS IT MEETING? IS IT MEETING LEAD STANDARDS, GREEN BUILDING ENVISION, WELL, NET ZERO SITES, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, CLIMATE AND SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED OUT IN THE WORLD. 
          SO HOW ARE WE APPLYING THIS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY? UM, AND THEN THE FINAL ONE IS, ONCE A FACILITY'S BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED, THEN THAT FACILITY IS MEANT TO OPERATE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, RIGHT? MOST OF THE STUFF THAT THE CITY OWNS, WE, WE INTEND FOR IT TO STILL BE THERE 50, A HUNDRED YEARS IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO MUCH OF THE IMPACT THAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY BE SEEN WITH ANY ONE OF THESE GIVEN PROJECTS IS HOW IS IT GONNA BE OPERATED AND MANAGED? SO HOW ARE WE MAX MAXIMIZING ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WATER EFFICIENCY, CARBON SEQUESTRATION, ET CETERA, IN THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS? UM, IT IS, UM, POSSIBLE TO DO QUANTITATIVE COMPARISONS WITH DIFFERENT PROJECTS, UM, USING LIFECYCLE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION ANALYSIS USING LCA, UM, USING COST 
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PER TON OF GREENHOUSE GASES REDUCED. 
          SO THERE IS A QUANTITATIVE ANGLE THAT WE, WE CAN BRING TO THIS, THIS SIDE OF THIS WORK. 
          UH, THEN THE OTHER ANGLE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS CLIMATE RESILIENCE. 
          SO, UH, THESE ARE ACTIONS THAT INCREASE OUR ABILITY TO PREPARE FOR WITHSTAND AND RECOVER FROM SHOCKS AND STRESSORS RELATED TO CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CLIMATE AND THE EFFECTS THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, AND WE'LL BE SEEING MORE FREQUENTLY, MORE FREQUENTLY AND MORE INTENSELY IN THE COMING YEARS, OUR EXTREME HEAT DROUGHT, FLOODING WILDFIRE AND EXTREME COLD WEATHER EVENTS. 
          UM, SO CLIMATE ADAPTED STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THINGS IN, UM, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AS PART OF, UM, A BOND PROCESS. 
          CLIMATE ADAPTED STRUCTURES ARE THOSE THAT ARE PREPARED FOR EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS AND ARE ABLE TO KEEP OPERATING, UM, THROUGH THOSE EVENTS AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN TIMES OF NEED. 
          SO AGAIN, THE QUESTIONS ARE, UH, WHERE IS THE PROJECT BUILT? IS IT BUILT IN A WILDFIRE ZONE, A FLOOD ZONE? UH, WHAT'S THE SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX OF THE AREA WHERE EACH PROJECT IS BEING BUILT? HOW IS IT BEING BUILT? UH, WHAT ARE THE WEATHERIZATION, THE PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES? HOW IS IT ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED? IS IT, AND IS IT, UM, GONNA BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND CHANGES IN CLIMATE? UM, HOW DOES IT INTERACT WITH THE NETWORK, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UM, IN DISASTERS AND IN NON-DISASTER TIMES, PEOPLE'S INTERACTION AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FROM PLACE TO PLACE IS, IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT PART. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, HOW DOES IT SUPPORT PEOPLE? ARE THERE COMMUNITY SPACES, THE SERVICE, THE PROGRAMMING? IS IT OPEN IN A WAY THAT'S, UM, ENGAGING WITH, WITH COMMUNITY? SO THOSE ARE THE TWO KIND OF LENSES THAT WE APPLIED. 
          AND THROUGH OUR WORK WITH, UH, CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES, WE ESSENTIALLY CAME UP WITH FIVE SECTIONS. 
          SO EACH ONE OF THESE FIVE, UH, WE'LL BE GETTING A SCORE. 
          SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, UM, THIS CRITERIA MATRIX, THAT'S A SPREADSHEET THAT HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY THE FIVE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD FOR CLIMATE ACTION AND RESILIENCE. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE FIVE, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE. 
          UH, THE FIRST TWO ARE RELATED TO RESILIENCE, REDUCES VULNERABILITY TO EXTREME WEATHER AND ADAPTIVE CAPACITY OF A PROJECT. 
          THEN GREEN BUILDING POLICY LIFECYCLE CARBON ASSESSMENT, AND SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE IS REDUCES VULNERABILITY TO EXTREME WEATHER. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING, LOOKING AT WITH THIS ONE IS, FOR ANY GIVEN PROJECT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, ARE THERE BUILT-IN STRATEGIES TO REDUCE VULNERABILITY OF THAT PROJECT? SO SUCH AS NOT BUILDING THE, THE PROJECT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, UM, OR A HIGH WILDFIRE RISK AREA, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S CONSTRUCTED IN A DAMAGE RESISTANT WAY. 
          YOU COULD USE DAMAGE RESISTANT BUILDING MATERIALS, UM, AND THINGS LIKE ENERGY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, RIGHT? UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, OTHER CRITERIA THAT YOU CAN INCLUDE. 
          THOSE ARE JUST SORT OF EXAMPLES. 
          UH, SO THE PROJECTS WILL BASICALLY BE GIVEN A SCORE OF ZERO THROUGH FOUR ON HOW MUCH THEY ARE INTEGRATING INTO THE PROJECT PROPOSAL TO REDUCE THE VULNERABILITY TO EXTREME WEATHER. 
          UH, THE SECOND ONE IS ADAPTIVE CAPACITY. 
          SO IN THIS ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILT-IN STRATEGIES TO ADJUST AND MODERATE DAMAGE TO QUICK, QUICKLY RESTORE FUNCTIONS, INCLUDING FEATURES SUCH AS BACKUP POWER, MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS, REDUNDANT COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT. 
          SO WITH THIS ONE WE'RE THINKING, UM, AN EXTREME WEATHER EVENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ANY GIVEN FACILITY. 
          HOW QUICKLY CAN THAT FACILITY BE TURNED BACK ON, BE USEFUL, BE FUNCTIONAL TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN TIMES OF NEED, RIGHT? BECAUSE THOSE, UM, FIRST FEW HOURS AND DAYS ARE, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO AGAIN, SCORES BETWEEN ZERO AND FOUR HERE. 
          SO THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL RESILIENCE FEATURES ADDED. 
          YOU GET ZERO. 
          IF THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE ADAPTIVE DESIGN AND REDUNDANCY STRATEGY INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT DESIGN, IT'D GET FOUR POINTS. 
          UH, THE NEXT STRATEGY IS GREEN BUILDING POLICY. 
          UM, SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN ALL THE WAY BACK TO, UH, 2009. 
          AND THEN IN 2021, UH, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN UPDATE TO OUR, UH, GREEN BUILDING POLICY. 
          SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A GREEN BUILDING POLICY THAT HAS A LOT OF DETAILS IN IT. 
          YOU CAN, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP AND READ THROUGH ALL THE SPECIFICS, BUT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IT REQUIRES LEAD SILVER OR AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING THREE STAR CERTIFICATION FOR NEW BUILDING PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND OR, AND THE SUSTAINABLE SITES CRITERIA APPLIES TO, UH, PAR SPECIFIC PROJECTS OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          SO WE ALREADY HAVE THIS BUILT IN. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY ANY PROJECT BUILDING PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED IN THIS BUILT BOND PROCESS WILL HAVE TO MEET THESE MINIMUM GREEN BUILDING CRITERIA. 
          UM, SO OUR SCORING HERE TAKES THAT 
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INTO ACCOUNT. 
          SO ZERO POINTS IS THE PROJECT'S JUST PROPOSED TO MEET THEIR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE LAID OUT HERE ALL THE WAY TO, THERE'S A VERIFIED PLAN TO ACHIEVE THE HIGHEST SUSTAINABILITY STANDARDS GOING AS HIGH AS, YOU KNOW, LEAD PLATINUM USING ENVISION USING SUSTAINABLE SITES. 
          UM, SO THERE'LL BE A, A SCORING GIVEN BASED ON HOW MUCH IS COMMITTED, UH, TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITMENTS OF ANY, ANY, UH, BUILDING PUT FORWARD. 
          UH, THE NEXT IS LIFECYCLE CARBON ASSESSMENT. 
          SO, UM, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT IS CALLED LCA LIFECYCLE, UH, ASSESSMENT AND THEN LIFECYCLE ASSESSMENT, CARBON ASSESSMENT WHERE, UM, WHEN A BUILDING IS BEING PROPOSED AND DESIGNED, UM, ESSENTIALLY ARCHITECTS AND CONSULTANTS CAN NOW QUANTIFY THE, THE EMISSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUILDING MATERIALS, THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE OPERATION OF ANY GIVEN FACILITY, UM, OVER TIME. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T DO THIS ASSESSMENT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME REDUCING THOSE EMISSIONS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THEM. 
          BUT IF YOU DO THIS LCA CARBON ASSESSMENT, THAT SETS YOU UP FOR SUCCESS. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT BUILDING MATERIALS, YOU COULD, UM, YOU COULD SELECT, YOU CAN DO ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE DESIGN PHASE, ESSENTIALLY TO MINIMIZE THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF A PROJECT, UM, AND MAXIMIZE THE RESILIENCE OF IT. 
          SO AGAIN, ZERO TO FOUR POINTS, ZERO POINTS BEING THERE'S NO LCA GONNA BE COMPLETED, NO CARBON STRATEGY TO ADDRESS LIFECYCLE CARBON EMISSIONS. 
          UM, ALL THE WAY UP TO THERE'S GONNA BE A FULL LIFECYCLE CARBON ASSESSMENT COMPLETED. 
          AND THERE'S A STRONG COMMITMENT TO REDUCE EMBODIED CARBON THROUGHOUT THE LIFECYCLE OF A GIVEN PROJECT. 
          AND THEN THE LAST CRITERIA IS SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE MAJORITY OF MANY PROJECTS, LIFETIME IMPACT OF THEIR ENERGY USAGE, UH, THEIR WATER USAGE, THEIR WASTE CREATION COMES ACTUALLY IN THE OPERATIONAL PHASE. 
          UM, BECAUSE THESE BUILDINGS ARE MEANT TO OPERATE FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. 
          UM, SO ARE THEIR STRATEGIES, OPERATIONAL STRATEGIES BUILT INTO THE PLAN AND THE PROJECT TO MINIMIZE WATER, ENERGY AND WASTE OVER THE LONG TERM. 
          SO THE INVESTMENTS IN THE PLANS BEING MADE UPFRONT RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE LONG TERM IMPACT IS GONNA BE MINIMIZED. 
          SO ZERO POINTS FOR, THERE'S NO STRATEGY. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT UP THE BUILDING AND JUST UP THE BEST, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FOUR POINTS, WHICH IS THERE'S A HOLISTIC MEASURABLE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AND OR SITE DESIGN WITH NATURAL SYSTEMS BUILT INTO IT. 
          UM, THAT'S GONNA BE INCORPORATED AND IMPLEMENTED OVER TIME. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE FIVE AREAS OF CRITERIA THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AND ARE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES NOW ON. 
          UM, ESSENTIALLY TO, UM, AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON WITH THEM OVER THE COMING MONTHS TO, UM, ASSESS ALL OF THE PROJECT PROPOSALS THAT ARE BEING PUT FORWARD, UM, AND GIVE THEM SCORES SO, UM, WE CAN UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW IS ANY, GIVEN ANY GIVEN BOND PROPOSAL, MAXIMIZING CLIMATE AND RESILIENCE BENEFITS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP AND THEN I'LL GO AROUND, ANSWER QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL GET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE VIRTUAL. 
          IS THERE, UH, AN EXPECTED TIMELINE FOR THE SCORES? HAVE YOU ALL JUST, WHAT WAS IT LOOKING LIKE? I MEAN, YOU DON'T, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA HOLD YOU TO IT, BUT JUST TRYING TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING FOR AS WE PREPARE. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE'RE FINISHED HOPEFULLY OCTOBER. 
          OCTOBER, OKAY. 
          THAT OCTOBER, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING INTO PHASE TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO LIE TO US. 
          I JUST WANNA US TO HAVE A GOOD OCTOBER NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR US ALL TO KNOW. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THE SCORES REALLY WILL MATTER. 
          SO, YEP. 
          QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, MAYBE JUST GOING, COULD WE BRING THE PRESENTATION BACK UP? UM, THERE WAS A SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD YOUR POINTS, UH, LAID OUT FOR ONE OF THE RESILIENCE METRICS MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND I JUST SAW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS POINTS JUST FOR LIKE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, I DON'T KNOW THE, THIS IS ADAPTIVE CAPACITY NUMBER ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          ACKNOWLEDGES NEED, BUT LACKS IMPLEMENTATION. 
          I'M WONDERING WHY THAT GETS A POINT AT ALL. 
          THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYTHING. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN ADJUST THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, GREAT. 
          I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN UP THE BAR A LITTLE THERE. 
          AND THEN, UM, ON THE, MAYBE IT WAS THE NEXT ONE, WHEREVER YOU TALKED ABOUT BACKUP POWER. 
          YEP. 
          UM, NOT THIS ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK BACKUP POWER IS PROBABLY PART OF THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S PART OF ADAPTIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
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SO, UM, IT'S IN THIS ONE, I MEAN YEAH. 
          MAKES SENSE THAT BACKUP POWER WOULD BE A PART OF THIS. 
          UM, I GUESS MY, MY COMMENT OR REQUEST WOULD MAYBE BE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ADDING A DIESEL GENERATOR THAT IS BACKUP POWER, IT WILL GIVE YOU RESILIENCE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S MAYBE NOT OUR MOST PREFERRED OPTION. 
          SO SOMEHOW DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN FOSSIL FUEL, UM, AND ESPECIALLY DIESEL, HOPEFULLY IS NOT ON THE, ON THE TABLE, BUT, UM, FOSSIL FUEL BACKUP POWER VERSUS YEP. 
          YEAH. 
          SOLAR AND BATTERIES WOULD BE, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          THE CLEAN OPTION WOULD BE NICE TO DISTINGUISH THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEP. 
          MAYBE THAT CAN BE THE POINT. 
          DIFFERENTIATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          QUESTIONS? YES. 
          UM, JUST MAYBE A COMMENT OR A QUESTION. 
          UM, IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THIS, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS. 
          ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION FIRST RESPONDER ACCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IF, IF WE'RE DEALING WITH A CRISIS, WHETHER IT'S FLOOD, WHETHER WILDFIRE, OUR, OUR FIREFIGHTERS OR POLICE LAW ENFORCEMENT MAY, YOU KNOW, EMS, DO THEY EVEN HAVE ACCESS? YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE ARE WE GONNA PUT THAT PROJECT IN A VERY, THAT NOT EVEN FIRST RESPONDERS CAN GET TO IT? SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE ADAPTIVE CAPACITY SECTION. 
          COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          A COUPLE. 
          UM, FIRST, UH, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME AUSTIN'S DONE SOMETHING THAT THE TURN YOUR MIC ON? OH, SORRY. 
          IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THE CITY HAS APPLIED THIS KIND OF CRITERIA TO, UH, TO HELPING DECIDE UPON BOND PROJECTS? AND DO YOU KNOW OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS REALLY COOL. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'RE DOING THIS AT, AT THE CITY. 
          UM, THE GREEN BUILDING POLICY KIND OF HAS BEEN, HAD US ON THIS ROAD FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, WE LEARNED FROM, WE HAD A LOT OF LEARNING FROM THE CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO ACTUALLY, THAT INCORPORATED A SIMILAR ASSESSMENT INTO THEIR BOND PROCESS. 
          AND WE ACTUALLY GOT THEIR CRITERIA AND, AND HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MODEL SOME OF THIS OFF OF THEM. 
          UM, AND WHAT, WHAT WORKED WELL AND WHAT DIDN'T WORK. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO MY OTHER QUESTION THEN IS, UM, SO I KNOW YOU GET POINTS FOR DOING A, UH, CARBON ASSESSMENT, BUT, UH, WE'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF REQUESTS THAT THE FULL BOND PACKAGE SEEK TO BE CARBON NEGATIVE OR NEUTRAL AT LEAST. 
          AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WITH WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT KIND OF, UH, JUDGMENT OR, OR KIND OF, AND SO I KNOW, UH, AN LCA SOUNDS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY INVOLVED, MAYBE EXPENSIVE. 
          IS THERE SOMETHING SHORT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT USING KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST ROUGH CALCULATORS OR ASSESSMENTS THAT WE COULD USE TO AT LEAST, UH, ATTEMPT TO GET SOMETHING CLOSER TO KIND OF A CARBON NEGATIVE OR CARBON NEUTRAL PACKAGE POTENTIALLY? I THINK IT, I THINK IT DETERMINE, I THINK IT MATTERS HOW MANY PROJECTS WE'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HUNDREDS OF PROJECTS, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY CHALLENGING TO DO THAT. 
          UM, IF IT'S A SHORTER LIST OF PROJECTS, I THINK WE COULD USE SOME SIMPLIFIED METHODS AND DO SOMETHING. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY ABOUT, UM, I THINK WE'D PROBABLY WANT TO TALK WITH LIKE A WORKING GROUP ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HOW THIS WOULD GET DONE. 
          UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE'RE QUANTIFYING, LIKE WHEN WE'RE QUANTIFYING EMISSIONS FROM A PROJECT, YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO COMPARE IT TO SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT? TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF A, OF A PROJECT, RIGHT? DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF A LIBRARY, EXPENSIVE LIBRARY, A CHEAPER LIBRARY, A LARGE LIBRARY, A SMALL LIBRARY. 
          UM, AND JUST KNOWING THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF A LIBRARY TO COMPARE IT TO A POLICE STATION OR A ROAD. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH LIKE, WHAT'S GONNA BE THE USE OF THE QUANTIFICATION AND HOW CAN WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S MOST EFFECTIVE AND MOST EFFICIENT, UM, AND USEFUL FOR THIS PROCESS. 
          SO, AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THE, UH, THE COMPARISON? 'CAUSE THIS, IF THIS IS A NEW BUILDING, IT'S AN ADDITION, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE UN UNLESS IT IS A REPLACEMENT, IN WHICH CASE THEN YOU COULD YEAH. 
          OR EVEN JUST IN COMPARISON, I MEAN, JUST DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF A BUILDING, RIGHT? UM, LIKE A LEAD SILVER BUILDING VERSUS A LEAD PLATINUM BUILDING, RIGHT? UM, AND THEN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN LIKE, THE LOWER IMPACT OF A BETTER OR A MORE EXPENSIVE, HIGHER PERFORMING BUILDING. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          COOL QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HMM. 
          UM, SOME OF THESE QUESTION MIGHT BE SILLY LATE BECAUSE I'M LEARNING, BUT FIRST QUESTION, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? UH, I CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
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CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          UM, SO FIRST QUESTION, THESE CRITERIA, WERE THEY DEVELOPED WITH AN EYE TOWARD BRAND NEW PROJECTS? BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HAS COME TO US WITH IDEAS FOR, IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE RETROFITTING EXISTING BUILDINGS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER. 
          SO DOES THIS LEAN MORE TOWARD BRAND NEW BUILDINGS? TO BUILD ON WHAT LUKE JUST MENTIONED, IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS DEVELOPED WITH AN EYE TOWARDS NEW BUILDINGS. 
          BUT IF THERE WAS AN EXISTING BUILDING PROJECT THAT, LIKE A MAJOR RETROFIT WAS GONNA BE DONE TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT, YOU COULD, YOU COULD APPLY THE CRITERIA. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THE VISION WAS THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN, THIS IS GONNA SOUND STRANGE. 
          DOES THE CLIMATE IMPACT OF THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, LIKE BIG EQUIPMENT KICKS OUT NASTINESS MM-HMM . 
          DOES THAT GET FACTORED IN TO ANY OF THIS? YES. 
          SO WHEN WE, WE TALK ABOUT THAT LIFECYCLE CARBON ASSESSMENT MM-HMM . 
          THE CONSTRUCTION PORTION IS INCLUDED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          GOOD QUESTION. 
          COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE, YOU MENTIONED THE SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX IS USED. 
          IS IT IN MEASURING THE CLIMATE RESILIENCE? COULD YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT'S FINE? YEAH, SO SOCIAL VULNERABILITY INDEX, UM, THERE ARE, UM, MAPS ESSENTIALLY OF, OF OUR CITY AND CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED, UM, TO SHOW THE LEVEL OF SOCIAL SOCIAL VULNERABILITY OF A GIVEN POPULATION IN THE CITY. 
          UM, SO FOR ANY AND ALL OF THE BOND, ANY BOND PROJECT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, IT HAS A LOCATION. 
          SO YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY MAP IT AND SEE WHERE IT'S AT AND SEE IF, UH, THE SURROUNDING AREA EITHER HAS HIGH SOCIAL VULNERABILITY OR LOW SOCIAL VULNERABILITY, UM, IN AREAS WITH HIGH SOCIAL VULNERABILITY. 
          UM, THE PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA WOULD NEED MORE ACCESS TO SERVICES, RIGHT? THEY'RE MORE VULNERABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          THEY'RE MORE VULNERABLE TO, UM, ECONOMIC SHOCKS TO, TO ALL OF THE THINGS IN OUR WORLD. 
          UM, SO PROJECTS THAT ARE IN HIGH SOCIAL VULNERABILITY AREAS, UM, HOPEFULLY WOULD BE GIVEN A HIGHER SCORE BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SERVING MORE SERVING COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH HIGHER NEED. 
          SO THE, THE SCORING WOULD BE BASED ON IF THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN AN AREA THAT HAS A, UH, A LOW SOCIAL VULNERABILITY OR HIGH SOCIAL VULNERABILITY. 
          YEP. 
          BUT IT DOESN'T CONSIDER HOW THE ONE PROJECT VERSUS ANOTHER ADDRESSES THAT SOCIAL VULNERABILITY. 
          NO, NOT YOU. 
          THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER STEP OF WORK TO LIKE BREAK IT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT, LIKE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES IN THAT COMMUNITY AND DOES THE PROPOSED SOLUTION ADDRESS THOSE OR NOT? UM, I THINK MY, OUR POINT WAS JUST MORE BROADLY ADDRESSING INVESTMENTS IN, IN COMMUNITY, NOT SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO US A LITTLE MORE GENERALLY ABOUT THE NEED FOR BOND INVESTMENT, FEDERAL CHANGES IN REDUCTION. 
          WELL, I GUESS I THINK ABOUT THE SOLAR FOR ALL PROJECT AND EV FUNDING OTHER THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WITH THE RECENT, THE PASSAGE OF HR ONE, UM, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, YEAH. 
          MORE AND MORE FUNDS ARE BEING CLAWED BACK, RIGHT? SO SOLAR FOR ALL IS, IS ONE EXAMPLE. 
          UM, SO I GUESS WE COULD, WE COULD IDENTIFY THE, THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. 
          UM, BUT MUCH OF OUR WORK AND MUCH OF THE PROJECTS, UM, THAT HAVE LIKE, THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN DON'T REQUIRE FEDERAL FUNDING. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL FUNDING ASSIST WOULD ASSIST WITH THINGS LIKE SOLAR AND, UM, AND ELECTRIC VEHICLE, ELECTRIC VEHICLE PURCHASES AND ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. 
          UM, LIKE THERE'S KIND OF A NARROW LANE OF WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS ASSISTING ON CLIMATE PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND I'D SAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE NOT SORT OF AFFECTED BY FEDERAL, UM, FEDERAL CHANGES. 
          SO, UM, I MEAN, WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT LIKE, LINE BY LINE WHAT'S AFFECTED, BUT, UM, LIKE ON THE WHOLE, I THINK MOST OF THE THINGS IN OUR CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN AFFECT AND HOLD THE SORT OF LEVERS FOR LOCALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          [00:50:02]
UM, UH, I'M ON THE TRANSPORTATION AND ELECTRIFICATION WORKING GROUP, AND A LOT OF THE, UM, UH, REQUESTS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT HAVE BEEN MORE PROGRAMMATIC IN NATURE, LIKE SIDEWALKS. 
          UM, HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THIS FRAMEWORK, THIS SCORING FRAMEWORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE, WHICH SEEMS MORE GEARED MAYBE TOWARDS SPECIFIC CAPITAL PROJECTS? SO YOU MENTIONED ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BUT THEN ALSO SIDEWALKS. 
          SO, SORRY, OUR TR OUR, OUR WORKING GROUP IS CALLED THE TRANSPORTATION AND ELECTRIFICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALL YY YEAH, IT'S, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE AS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PROGRAMMATIC IN NATURE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ISN'T GONNA TOUCH ON LIKE A GREEN BUILDING, YOU KNOW, CRITERIA OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          JUST KIND OF CURIOUS HOW, HOW WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT YOUR SCORING OF MONEY. 
          LIKE SOMETHING LIKE MONEY FOR SIDEWALK PROJECTS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          UM, WELL, A SIDEWALK PROJECT AND, OR LIKE A BIKE LANE PROJECT IN AND OF ITSELF SORT OF ENABLES GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT ENABLES PEOPLE TO GET OUT OF A CAR. 
          UM, I THINK WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CRITERIA AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS ARE BEING, WOULD BE GIVEN POINTS OR LIKE GIVEN SUPPORT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          'CAUSE ALL THE PROJECTS AREN'T GOING TO BE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT FIT IN HERE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING FOR THOSE PROJECTS. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S KEEP GOING. 
          WE HAVE, WE GOT TO GET THROUGH THESE. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAD SOME QUESTIONS KIND OF ON HOW, UM, WHICH OF WHICH OF THE FIVE CATEGORIES THINGS SLICE INTO. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, ON SLIDE FIVE, UNDER CLIMATE MITIGATION, IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS, LIKE WHERE IT'S BUILT. 
          UH, WOULD THAT FALL INTO, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS OR LIKE, WHERE ARE WE FACTORING THAT INTO LIKE, UM, WHICH, WHICH CRITERIA WOULD YOU KNOW, A PLACE THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO IDENTICAL BUILDINGS, ONE FAR OUT, NOT SERVED BY TRANSIT, ONE CLOSE BY TO, YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBLE? YEAH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD DEFINITELY FALL INTO LIFECYCLE CARBON ASSESSMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IT MIGHT BE CAPTURED IN GREEN BUILDING POLICY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND, AND SIMILAR QUESTION FOR LIKE, IF WE BUILT A BUILDING GOOD, GOOD SOLAR AND BATTERIES, IS THAT LIKE SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS? BECAUSE THE DAY-TO-DAY IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT DRAWN SO MUCH POWER TO COOL IT. 
          AND WHEN THERE ARE GRID SPIKES LIKE THAT, OR IS IT MORE LIKE REDUCES VULNERABILITY TO EXTREME WEATHER? BECAUSE IF THE GRID'S DOWN THIS BUILDING CAN STILL OPERATE AND LIKE A PROJECT LIKE THAT IS GONNA GET POINTS IN MULTIPLE AREAS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO SOLUTIONS THAT ARE BOTH GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCING AND IN INCREASING RESILIENCE TO CLIMATE CHANGE, THOSE ARE GONNA GET LIKE MULTI, THEY'RE GONNA GET MORE POINTS. 
          SO, 'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE BEST KIND. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTIONS ONLINE. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          SORRY, GARY HAS A QUESTION. 
          SORRY. 
          DO I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT? THAT FOR ALL OF THE PROJECTS INCLUDED ON THE LIST, YOUR OFFICE IS GONNA LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS AND PROVIDE THIS SCORE FROM ZERO TO 20 FOR EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS? YES, WE'RE GONNA WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE CDS TEAM AND FOLKS WHO KNOW THE DETAILS ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS AND THEN GIVE SCORING FOR ALL OF THEM. 
          IT CAN JUST TO HELP SET OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR WHEN THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE DELIVERED TO US. 
          BECAUSE HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THAT WOULD BE VERY SIGNIFICANT AND TO OUR EVALUATION OF PARTICULAR PROJECTS. 
          SO DOES THAT INVOLVE ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS? IS IT DRIVEN BY YOUR DEPARTMENT? WHAT, HOW DOES IT, HOW WILL THAT ACTUALLY WORK FOR ANY ONE PROJECT? HOW ARE WE, YOU'RE NOT TO ANSWER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK MARCUS IS PROBABLY OKAY THE RIGHT GUY TO ANSWER. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF ACROSS, THIS IS JUST ONE SECTION IN A MUCH LARGER YEAH. 
          AND GARY MARCUS HAMMER CAPITAL SERVICES, UM, GOOD QUESTION. 
          SO WE ARE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A NUMBER OF CI UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS TO PULL TOGETHER THIS. 
          YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, MATRICE AS PART OF ITEM NUMBER. 
          I THINK IT'S FOUR, BUT IT WAS THE BACKUP. 
          SO THAT'S THE EXAMPLE RUBRIC THAT WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER. 
          SO OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS OBVIOUSLY TO KIND OF HAVE, UM, ALL OF THIS WRAPPED UP BY THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER FROM A SCORING PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE WE WANNA COME BACK TO YOU IN NOVEMBER TIMELINE PROBABLY LATE NOVEMBER, BUT TO DELIVER, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AS OUR INITIAL STARTING POINT OR OUR DRAFT, OUR RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE B TIFF, RIGHT? SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE ALL THIS KIND OF COLLABORATED AND PUT TOGETHER. 
          NOW AGAIN, I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL RIGHT? THIS IS CRITERIA TO HELP LOOK AT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT'S PRIORITIES THAT WERE PUT FORTH. 
          SO WE WERE ASKED TO AS CDS TO LOOK AT A WAY TO GET FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTAL PRIORITIES THAT RANK, YOU KNOW, HIGH, HOW DO WE GET FROM THERE UP TO WHAT IS THE $700 MILLION MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S OUR, OUR OBJECTIVE. 
          OF COURSE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO IT. 
          [00:55:01]
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ARE WE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY ON CERTAIN THINGS? IS IT, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, IS IT A COUNCIL PRIORITY? UM, HOW MANY, THREE ONE ONES ARE WE GETTING ALL THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNIQUE, UH, THINGS HAPPEN, RIGHT? UH, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN JUST THIS SPREADSHEET, BUT IT IS JUST ANOTHER TOOL OR LENS TO KIND OF HELP, HELP US REFLECT AND LOOK AT, AT HOW AND WHAT WE HAVE FROM A DEPARTMENT LEVEL, UH, CITYWIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THEN AS FAR AS PROGRAMS LIKE SIDEWALKS, COMPLETE STREET, UM, WILL THOSE ALSO BE SCORED ON A ZERO TO 20? SO THE, THOSE, THOSE WILL ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LITTLE BIT OF A LENS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS REALLY WORKS WELL ON NAMED PROJECTS. 
          SO INDIVIDUAL NAME PROJECTS, ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTS ARE GREAT PROJECTS, WHICH I THINK WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF COLLABORATION AND, AND KIND OF TALKING THROUGH THAT. 
          BUT WHEN YOU START TO GET INTO, SAY, SIDEWALKS OR THESE BIGGER BUCKETS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SCORE LIKE THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, FROM HISTORICAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WERE THEY FUNDED IN 2018 OR THE 2020 BOND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I'M THINKING TRANSPORTATION SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          LIKE, SO IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, WHAT IS, WHAT HAS BEEN HISTORICAL SPEND? HOW MUCH HAVE THEY SPENT DOWN, RIGHT? AND THEN WHAT DO THEY REALLY NEED TO KEEP, UH, THEIR, THEIR BIGGER VISION OF THEIR PLANS MOVING FORWARD? SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG UNIVERSAL CONVERSATION, RIGHT? LIKE, I THINK Y'ALL MENTIONED THAT EARLY ON, LIKE PERCENTAGES OF BUCKETS. 
          WHAT REALLY STARTS TO MAKE SENSE. 
          UM, AND IN COLLABORATION WITH A LOT OF OTHER TOOLS AND RESOURCES LIKE THIS TO START PULLING ALL OF THESE LAYERS BACK TO TRY TO GET TO THAT FINAL ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT I'M, I'M PICTURING IN MY MIND IS THAT NAME PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, DIFFERENT WAYS OF EVALUATING THEM. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT THIS ZERO TO 20 NUMBER ISN'T GONNA BE JUST A CROSSCUT LOOK AT ALL OF THE THINGS POSSIBLE RANK THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO APPRECIATE SO, BUT NAME PROJECTS IS REALLY THE, WHERE YOU WANNA FOCUS THIS, THIS, THIS RUBRIC OR THIS METRIC WITH. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND THEN IF SOMEONE FROM THE, I'VE GOT TWO MORE QUESTIONS. 
          IF SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY OR THE COMM, THERE'S A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROJECT THAT'S BROUGHT FORWARD, LIKE CONSIDER THIS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO ASK YOU ALL TO OKAY, RUN THIS THROUGH THIS SCORING CRITERIA TO EVALUATE IT ON THIS THAT SAME BASIS AS THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE CITY LIST? WELL, YOU, YOU COULD, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW MUCH TIME WE NEED TO DO THAT? UH, WELL WE'RE OUR END OF CALL FOR PROJECTS IS WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, THIS IS OCTOBER 31ST, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NEEDING THAT MONTH TO REALLY KIND OF PULL OUR HANDS AROUND AND KIND OF PULL THAT LIST TOGETHER AND LOOK AT THESE. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW THIS RUBRIC IS SET UP, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE RUBRIC. 
          IT WAS SENT AS THE BACKUP. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, PART OF THE VISION AND THE COLLABORATION OF THIS RUBRIC IS THE INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLETING THESE PROJECTS WITHIN A SIX YEAR CYCLE. 
          RIGHT? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY DRIVERS OF THAT RUBRIC IS LOOKING AT A LOT OF THESE. 
          ONE, IS IT OWN, IS IT CITY MANDATED? DOES IT TIE BACK TO CITY RALLY SOLUTIONS? YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT AS FAR AS LIKE ALSO BEING SHOVEL READY OR, OR CAN WE GET IT DONE? RIGHT? SO WE'RE LOOKING HEAVILY AT THAT. 
          SO, BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY RUN THOSE SAME KIND OF THINGS PROBABLY AGAINST THIS DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH INFORMATION WE GET. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE, 'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS CERTAINLY FOR WORKING GROUPS AND FOR OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS IS WE HAVE THE CITY PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE'VE GOT PEOPLE SUBMITTING LISTS, BUT JUST TO TREAT THEM ALL FAIRLY, WE NEED TO PUT THEM ALL THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT MARY'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'RE, THAT'S, THAT'S ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I JUST WANNA TALK WITH MARCUS ABOUT THAT NOW IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS TO GO THROUGH THE SAME EVALUATION CRITERIA FROM THE CITY SIDE SO THAT WE'RE LIKE LOOKING AT THE VALUATIONS IN A SIMILAR WAY. 
          AND SO IF OCTOBER IS THE CUTOFF FOR THOSE, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MY UNDERSTANDING IS RIGHT ABOUT WHEN WE NEED TO BE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BE LIKE, OKAY, MAKE SURE YOU GET THESE IN BY THIS DATE BECAUSE WE NEED SOONER THE BETTER. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE COLLECTING 'EM RIGHT NOW OFF THE SPREADSHEET AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          BUT THINK ABOUT IT JUST LIKE AS WE ASK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA TAKE US TIME TO GO THROUGH THEIR KIND OF SCRUB 'EM MM-HMM . 
          AS IT G REALLY GEO BOND ELIGIBLE, LIKE THEY'RE ALL THE CRITERIA, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO WE'VE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF ALL THIS AS WELL AS KIND OF PULLING THAT LIST TOGETHER. 
          SO WE CAN TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND LOOK AT THAT. 
          BUT AGAIN, THE END FOR CALL WOULD BE FOR PROJECTS WOULD BE OCTOBER 31ST. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A FEW WEEKS TO GET THAT LAST KIND OF GROUPING OF THEM AND KIND OF KEEP, KEEP RUNNING THAT ANALYSIS ON, ON EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CRITERIA, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE, THE LEAD PLUS. 
          UM, SO I, I'M, I APPRECIATE THE GREEN BUILDING POLICY AND, AND MAYBE THIS TOUCHES ON WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, BEFORE THAT, THAT A PROJECT THAT WOULD SCORE WELL IN ONE OF THESE FIVE CATEGORIES WOULD ALSO RECEIVE POINTS IN, IN OTHER CATEGORIES. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LEAD OR EVEN ABOVE LEAD, YOU'RE, THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU'LL GET LEAD POINTS IN THE LEAD CATEGORY, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          BUT THEN YOU'LL ALSO LIKELY RECEIVE, UH, CARBON MITIGATION OR CARBON REDUCTION POINTS AND THEN SUSTAINABILITY, SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS POINTS. 
          IS THAT, AM I THINKING ABOUT THAT IN THE RIGHT WAY? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COOL. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO QUICKLY THROUGH ONLINE. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CLIMATE TEAM? DAVID 
          [01:00:01]
OR DAVE? I THINK WE ALL HAD OUR HANDS UP EARLIER, BUT, UM, IT'S ONE THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, BUT CAN'T WE ALSO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT IF YOU DO SOLAR PANELS AND WATER CAPTURE FOR IRRIGATION, THAT THE NET PRESENT VALUE OF COSTS THAT YOU WOULD'VE RUN INTO FOR LATER FOR UTILITY COSTS ARE LOWER. 
          AND THAT'S ANOTHER ARGUMENT TO BE MADE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, USE MORE THAN ONE ARGUMENT TO COM TO, UH, CONVINCE PEOPLE ABOUT THESE THINGS. 
          I THINK THAT IS PART OF THAT OPERATING PIECE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND PART OF THAT RUBRIC. 
          ALRIGHT, THEN THERE WOULD GET POINTS JUST FOR SAVING MONEY IF WE WERE HAVING LOWER UTILITY COSTS BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING A PROJECT THAT USE LESS ENERGY OR LESS WATER. 
          MM. 
          RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ONE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE THOUGH, I DON'T WANNA ARGUE ABOUT THIS, BUT THE UM, POINT THAT, UH, KABA MADE EARLIER ABOUT THE PROJECT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, RECOGNIZED BUT THEY COULDN'T BE IMPLEMENTED. 
          THE POINT FOR THAT IS YOU RECOGNIZED THE NEED, BUT YOU CAN'T IMPLEMENT IT. 
          YOU CAN'T IMPLEMENT IT NOW. 
          AND SO THE POINT WOULD BE THAT YOU DON'T PUT UP BARRIERS TO IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTING IT LATER. 
          SO I THINK YOU SHOULD GET ONE POINT SO LONG AS YOU'RE NOT PUTTING UP BARRIERS TO IMPLEMENTING IT LATER. 
          MAYBE THAT'S HOW YOU CAN CHANGE IT. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          OR CONSIDER IT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS COURSE. 
          WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO US. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WHO'S NEXT? HAYDEN, IS SHE FREEZE? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          YEAH, SORRY. 
          IT WAS FOR SOME REASON IT WASN'T COMING OFF MUTE WHEN I CLICKED ON IT. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK FOR A SECOND AND I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT THE PROGRAM EVALUATION IS PROBABLY GONNA BE DIFFERENT FROM, UM, SPECIFICALLY NAMED PROJECTS, WHICH I THINK IS APPROPRIATE. 
          I WAS WONDERING THAT AS YOU WERE GOING THROUGH THE SLIDES. 
          UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, THE SLIDES WERE GREAT, BUT I THINK THEY APPLY REALLY WELL TO BUILDINGS, PROBABLY NOT SO MUCH TO LAND ACQUISITION , WHICH IS WOULD BE A PROGRAM IN THE BOND. 
          UM, SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST ASK FOR, UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO, BECAUSE OUR BONDING CAPACITY IS RELATIVELY SMALL COMPARED TO THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE OF NEEDS, EVEN THE CURATED DOWN LIST, WHICH IS SMALLER THAN WHERE WE STARTED. 
          UM, MAYBE SOME INFORMATION FROM YOUR OFFICE ABOUT, UM, HOW THOSE PROGRAMMATIC, UM, BOND REQUESTS LIKE SIDEWALKS, LIKE BIKE LANES, LIKE LAND ACQUISITION, UM, ADDRESS CLIMATE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WEIGH SOME OF THOSE NAMED PROJECTS AGAINST BUCKETS PROBABLY, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. 
          ALL RIGHT, MARY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU ZACH. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, UM, CAPTURE THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION AND, AND HOLD ONTO THESE THOUGHTS. 
          OUR DISCUSSION OF THE CRITERIA FOR THE BTIF THAT'S COMING UP LATER IN THE AGENDA. 
          WE'LL MAKE US START TO THINK ABOUT, BECAUSE AS A GROUP, WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD LET THE WORKING GROUPS ESTABLISH CRITERIA BECAUSE OF THE SUBJECT MATTER DIFFERENCES WE'RE, WE'RE BRINGING UP IN THIS RUBRIC. 
          SO KINDA KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE CRITERIA FOR THE WORKING GROUP, LIKE PARKLAND MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM FACILITIES. 
          AND THEN THINK OF BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE THROUGH LINES OR THE TOP THE VALUE STATEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE APPLICABLE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE B TIF CRITERIA, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT EVERYONE SORT OF KEEPS THAT PIN IN IT FOR OUR FUTURE CONVERSATION. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE CLIMATE FOLKS SO WE CAN ONLINE? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK THAT'S ALL. 
          CAN I MAKE A CLARIFICATION? YEAH. 
          SO I JUST, I THINK WHEN LUKE WAS ASKING HIS QUESTION, I, I'M NOT SURE IF IT TOTALLY WAS CLEAR. 
          I THINK WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, UM, SOME OF US AT LEAST THINK ABOUT HERE IS THE NET IMPACT OF THE TOTAL BOND INVESTMENT. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE HAVING THAT GREENHOUSE GAS IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ALL PROJECTS. 
          EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT COMPARING ONE PROJECT TO ANOTHER. 
          I THINK IN SOME CATEGORIES IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE REALLY HELPFUL TO 
          [01:05:01]
BE ABLE TO COMPARE ONE PROJECT TO ANOTHER, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BIKE LANES VERSUS URBAN TRAILS, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN SEE A DIFFERENT IMPACT THERE, RIGHT? YOU'RE LANE CONCRETE IN BOTH THAT'S ON THE INCREASING EMISSIONS, BUT YOU'RE MAYBE TAKING MORE CARS OFF THE ROAD IF IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, ANYWAY, IT'S THAT AGGREGATE THAT I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AT IS LIKE, HOW CAN WE ADD IT ALL UP IN THE END IF WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS? 'CAUSE I THINK SOME OF US FELT LIKE THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF PROJECTS ON THE LIST THAT WE'RE IN THE PURELY MITIGATION CATEGORY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          LIKE THERE WERE VERY FEW, POSSIBLY ZERO THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE LIKE NET NEGATIVE EMISSIONS. 
          UM, TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THAT. 
          YEAH, UNDERSTOOD. 
          I MEAN, I THINK OUR, OUR, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD THAT SAME ASK AS WELL. 
          UM, AND WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THAT RIGHT. 
          I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO BALANCE FEASIBILITY OF LIKE WHAT SIZE OF LIST ARE WE ASKED TO ANALYZE VERSUS WHEN IS IT ALSO MEANINGFUL AND IMPACTFUL TO HAVE THAT LIST SO Y'ALL CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. 
          THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION. 
          WELL, I THINK THE LIST WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE LIST WE WERE GIVEN RIGHT NOW. 
          OBVIOUSLY I THINK THERE WILL BE ADDITIONS TO THAT AS YOU'VE HEARD, BUT I THINK AT MINIMUM UNDERSTANDING THE CARBON IMPACT OF WHAT'S ON THAT LIST OR UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S SO VAGUE THAT IT CAN'T BE QUANTIFIED. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S LEGITIMATE. 
          YEAH, I DON'T, IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT US TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I REALLY, WE REALLY NEED TO GET TO ITEMS THREE AND FOUR ON THE AGENDA AND WE'RE ALREADY PAST THE HOUR, SO, UM, WE'LL KEEP THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, RACHEL, DID YOU HAVE A NEW QUESTION OR DID YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT REALLY QUICK? JUST A NEW QUE QUESTION REALLY QUICK. 
          IF ZACH, IF YOU COULD ALSO DO SOME, UM, GIVE US SOME WAY TO ANA ANALYZE IF FOLKS ARE USING VERY OLD BUILDINGS, UM, AND WOULD BE MOVING INTO A NEW BUILDING. 
          UM, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A CITY BUILDING PROJECT, SO LIKE SOME WAY TO JUST SORT OF UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THE USE. 
          LIKE, BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER KINDS OF, UM, BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T JUST CITY OWNED BUILDINGS THAT ARE COMING INTO THIS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          COULD, COULD WE JUST TALK ABOUT THIS FOR JUST A SECOND, MARK? WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. 
          WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS AND NUMBER FOUR IS GONNA TAKE A GOOD SUBMIT OF TIME. 
          AND I DON'T WANNA GIVE MARY ALL THE TIME SHE NEEDS. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK MORE ABOUT. 
          YEAH, NO, I THINK, I THINK IT WAS GREAT THAT MARY GOT BROUGHT THEM HERE AND I THINK WE CAN HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, MOVING 
          [3. Discussion of BEATF and Working Groups work plans and schedules.]
ON TO, UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE, UM, DISCUSSION OF BT AND WORKING GROUP WORK PLANS AND SCHEDULES. 
          AND SO BOTH OF THESE NEXT TWO AGENDA ITEMS, MARY'S KIND OF PUT THIS WORK TOGETHER, SO I WILL HELP FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION, BUT SHE'LL MOSTLY BE LEADING THE CONVERSATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          SO THE FIRST WORD, DOCUMENT THAT, OR CAN YOU, CAN YOU TURN HER UP JUST A LITTLE BIT? IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE HER LOUDER? I GET CLOSER TO MY MICROPHONE. 
          DOES THAT HELP? THAT HELPS. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE ZOOM IN HERE? I'M SORRY. 
          SORRY, JUST ASKING ABOUT THE DOCUMENT ON THE SCREEN. 
          WE CAN OKAY. 
          ZOOM IN. 
          I WAS HOPING IT WAS GONNA BE PRINTED OUT FOR YOU, BUT UM, MAYBE IT WASN'T. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DOING A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY GETTING STARTED ON OUR WORK NOW, UM, WITH THE LIST. 
          AND SO IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME AND I THINK FOR ALL OF US TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT THE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT'S OUR WORK PLAN, WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE BETWEEN NOW AND MAY, 2026. 
          MAY, 2026 IS WHEN WE WILL MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE. 
          AND SO I'VE TAKEN, I, I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          KEEP GOING. 
          OH, I'VE TAKEN SORT OF EACH MONTH AND PUT SOME BASIC AGENDA ITEMS, BUT THE, THE GIST IS STARTING NOW THROUGH DECEMBER, REALLY THE WORKING GROUPS WILL BE, WE'LL DO BE DOING MOST OF OUR WORK AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL. 
          WE WILL, UM, BE GETTING INFORMATION COMING SHORTLY ON WHAT THE BTIF PRODUCED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS FOR THE FALL WILL LOOK LIKE. 
          AND THEN, UM, AS MARCUS TOLD US IN NOVEMBER, WE WILL BE GETTING SCORING FOR THE CITY FACILITY PROJECTS, UM, AND MORE TO COME ON HOW WE MIGHT NEED TO TWEAK THE SCORING SHEETS FOR PROJECTS THAT DON'T FALL INTO THAT, UM, THAT TYPE, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE. 
          AND THEN IN STARTING IN JANUARY, WE WILL HAVE EACH WORKING 
          [01:10:01]
GROUP, SO BETWEEN JANUARY AND EARLY MARCH, EACH WORKING GROUP WILL COME TO THE FULL BTF MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M IMAGINING AS A PRIORITY LIST THAT OF PROJECTS FROM THE WORKING GROUP, WHICH WILL THEN BE, UH, WE WILL THEN AS A GROUP APPLY WHATEVER CRITERIA WE'VE ESTABLISHED TO, TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND SO IN ORDER TO GET THAT WORK DONE, I HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON HERE. 
          UM, I HAVE PROPOSED ADDING MEETINGS, WHICH, UM, EVERYONE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          BUT INSTEAD OF MEETING MONTHLY, IT'S TWICE A MONTH STARTING IN, I BELIEVE IT'S JANUARY. 
          AND THEN, UM, JUST FOR, UM, TO AVOID CONFLICTS WITH HOLIDAYS, I MOVED THE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER MEETINGS UP A WEEK TO AVOID, UH, CONFLICTS WITH THE HOLIDAYS ON THOSE MEETING DATES. 
          AND SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE WE, PEOPLE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING AT IT. 
          BUT THE THINGS I, WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY ON IF WE'RE, UM, GOING TO DO IT IS IF WE'RE GONNA ADD MEETINGS AND MAYBE WE'RE GONNA ADD MEETINGS AT AFTER HOURS TIMES OR YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHAT TIME WE NEED. 
          WE'VE GOTTA GET THAT ON THE CITY'S RADAR LIKE NOW  SO QUICKLY. 
          UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HAVE THEM GO AHEAD AND START LOOKING AT IT AND, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT FIND THAT WE DON'T NEED THEM, RIGHT? WE MIGHT FIND THAT WE'RE PRO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUR WORK REALLY QUICKLY AND WE DON'T NEED THOSE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM SCHEDULED AND WORK THROUGH THE LOGISTICS OF THEM AND, AND CUT THEM BACK AS OPPOSED TO NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THEM IF WE WAIT TOO LONG. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS SUPER HELPFUL FOR ME AS AN EXERCISE IN WORKING THROUGH HOW WE'RE GONNA GET TO MAY AND I'LL, I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP NOW TO THOSE WHO'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AND ANY QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS, CHANGES, THOUGHTS. 
          AND THE ONLY THING I WANNA ALSO POINT OUT, UM, THAT MARY ADDED TO THIS IS THAT IN THE FALL IT'S KIND OF SUGGESTED TO DO BTF LED PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE WANTED THE, WE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE, WE KIND OF WANTED THE CITY PRODUCE PUBLIC MEETINGS TO HAPPEN IN THE SPRING WHERE WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR WORKING GROUPS AND WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION. 
          AND SO, JUST SO I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THOSE MEETINGS BEING IN THE FALL, BUT WE'RE, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GONNA BE GETTING SO MUCH INFORMATION FROM DEPARTMENTS, WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS GROUP HAD AS MUCH KNOWLEDGE TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS IN THE SPRING. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER, UH, CHANGE TOO THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE WAS ON THE AS WELL. 
          SHE INCLUDED THAT AS WELL. 
          THIS IS HAYDEN. 
          I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT IN CASE YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE SEEING IT ON THE SCREEN, IT WAS IN THE BACKUP THAT WAS SENT OUT. 
          UM, I TRIED TO PUT IT IN THE CHAT, BUT THE CHAT'S DISABLED . 
          SO I KNOW I HAD FEEDBACK, UM, ABOUT IF WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE FLEXIBLE SCHEDULES, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS WEREN'T DURING THE DAY. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT'S JUST SPEAKING FOR ME. 
          UM, SO I THINK, I DO THINK THAT AN EXTRA MEETING A MONTH COULD BE HELPFUL FOR SOME OF THE MONTHS, MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY AT TWO. 
          YEAH, I THINK TO GET, TO GIVE EACH WORKING GROUP ENOUGH TIME TO PRESENT TO US, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE WORKING GROUP PER MEETING. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THE EXTRA MEETINGS IN JANUARY TO EARLY MARCH WERE WERE REQUIRED. 
          MAYBE WE COULD DO TWO A MEETING. 
          THAT'S THE SORT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          GARY, YOU UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS. 
          I, I AGREE WITH THE EXTRA MEETINGS. 
          UM, MY QUESTION IS JUST ABOUT GOING THROUGH MAY, UM, SOMEHOW I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO COUNSEL IN APRIL, SO YEAH, MAYBE THAT CHANGE, JUST WONDERING, IT'S MAY, MARCUS SAID IT'S MAY. 
          ALRIGHT, THIS LOOKS FINE TO ME. 
          IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA, SO I'LL JUST SAY FOR ME IT LOOKS FINE AND I EXPECT PEOPLE JUST PROVIDE INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO MARY AND FRANCIS IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO TALK ABOUT ABOUT IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NO OTHER COMMENTS. 
          ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO, 
          [4. Discussion and possible action on the criteria to be used by the full BEATF to score the projects recommended by the Working Groups.]
UM, ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          AND YOU, UH, YES, THERE'S THE SLIDE DECK. 
          ALL RIGHT, MARY, OH WAIT, CAN HOLD ON. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          ARE WE READY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST A 
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FEW, UM, PRELIMINARY COMMENTS BEFORE WE START THIS. 
          UM, LIKE I'M, I I THINK I'VE BRIEFLY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE AS A GROUP HAD PREVIOUSLY DECIDED THAT WE LIKED THE IDEA OF THE WORKING GROUPS THEMSELVES HAVING A SCORING OR CRITERIA JUST BECAUSE OF THE VIR, THE, THE VIRTUE THAT THESE, THESE PROJECTS CAN BE QUITE DIFFERENT, PARKLAND VERSUS BUILDINGS. 
          UM, SO WHAT OUR FOCUS TODAY REALLY IS, IS ABOUT IS THAT BTF LEVEL CRITERIA OR VALUES OR, UM, THAT WE, WE PREVIOUSLY STARTED THE DISCUSSION ON. 
          UM, SECOND, JUST TO GIVE CONTEXT TO THAT DECISION MAKING POINT. 
          I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH A PROPOSED OR PROCESS OR HOW I SEE THIS POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, HOW WE, THE SERIES OF STEPS WE GET TO THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, THIS IS NOT A PROCESS THAT WE, WE WILL NEED TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT PROCESS, BUT IT'S THE ONE THAT JUST FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY'S CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE, THE B TIFF LEVEL. 
          UM, THERE ARE DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN THESE SLIDES. 
          THEY MEAN NOTHING , THEY'RE ILLUSTRATIVE. 
          SO DON'T, DON'T TAKE THE FACT THAT I USE A BILLION DOLLARS IN HERE TO MEAN I KNOW SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T THINK SO. 
          UM, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I'M ALSO NOT A POWERPOINT EXPERT, SO THESE SLIDES AREN'T PRETTY, BUT I, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL WORK. 
          OKAY, LET'S, UH, LET'S GET STARTED. 
          I HAD TO PLUG MY PHONE IN, SO NOW I'M LEANING DOWN EVEN FARTHER. 
          , JUST SO NICOLE, YOU'RE SENDING IT TO THE P TIFF. 
          YEAH, SO SORRY GUYS, THE SLIDES HAD NOT BEEN SENT, BUT NICOLE IS SITTING THEM NOW. 
          NO, THEY HADN'T BEEN SENT. 
          THAT'S MY FAULT BECAUSE I WAS LITERALLY WORKING ON THEM LAST NIGHT. 
          SO, UM, NOTHING IN HERE OTHER THAN JUST, THIS IS TO START THE CONVERSATION. 
          YOU WON'T BE APPROVING ANYTHING IN THE SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS JUST TELLS US SORT OF WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          WE GOT THE CITY DEVELOPED LIST OF PROJECTS BASED ON THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          YOU SAW IT THROUGH YOUR EMAIL. 
          THE RUBRIC THAT THE CITY HAS PROPOSED, THE DRAFT RUBRIC THAT THEY ARE GOING TO USE TO SCORE THOSE SCORES WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE WORKING GROUPS LATER. 
          SO TO FURTHER REFINE THEIR LIST, THEN WE MOVE TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE BT WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE PRESENTATIONS FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE PUBLIC INPUT THROUGH A SURVEY, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC AT THE PUBLIC PARTLY, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE WORKING GROUP MEETINGS. 
          AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS, EACH OF THE WORKING GROUPS WILL HAVE A CRITERIA THAT THEY USE TO DELIVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL BTIF. 
          OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN THE B TIFF GETS THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I'M IMAGINING A PRIORITY LIST FROM EACH OF THE WORKING GROUPS. 
          AND THEN WE ARE GONNA HAVE A SERIES OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT LED BY THE CITY THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR THE FALL. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET FEEDBACK ON THOSE LISTS THAT THE B THE FULL BTF CAN USE IN, IN THEIR, UH, ANALYSIS. 
          AND THEN WE'LL STILL BE DOING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION GATHERING FROM THE CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS, WE'LL NEED ADDITIONAL DATA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY, SO THIS IS KIND OF MY, I I HIGHLIGHTED BB TIF CRITERIA 'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE SUBJECT MATTER OF TODAY, BUT THIS IS WHERE I FEEL LIKE THAT COMES IN THE PROCESS. 
          SO THE FIRST STEP IS WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE WORKING GROUP PRIORITY LIST, AND WE'RE GOING TO APPLY WHETHER IT'S, UM, UH, VALUES SCORED VALUES ON A CRITERIA THAT MAY OR MAY NOT REPRIORITIZE THE LIST FROM THE WORKING GROUPS. 
          UM, IT MAY SHUFFLE THINGS AROUND. 
          AND THEN STEP TWO, AS YOU RE RECALL, I THINK FROM THE LAST MEETING, THE, UH, PART OF THIS PUBLIC SURVEY WAS TO ASK FOLKS TO TELL US IF THEY HAD A HUNDRED DOLLARS, HOW THEY WOULD USE THOSE A HUNDRED DOLLARS. 
          SO THEY VOTED TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO TRANSPORTATION, A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          MY, UH, SUGGESTION ON PROCESS WOULD BE TO APPLY THOSE PERCENTAGES TO OUR LISTS SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE, WE WOULD GO FROM A LIST OF MAYBE EACH WORKING GROUP HAD 20, AND THEN WE, WE SHRINK THEM AND GROW THEM BASED ON WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ON. 
          AND THEN THE LAST STEP WOULD BE, WELL, HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE TO SPEND? AND THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPING THE BOND PACKAGES BASED ON, AND I'M SAYING VARIOUS BOND PACKAGE VALUES AND THIS WE CAN TALK ABOUT, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE MIGHT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          THIS IS JUST KIND OF STEP ONE. 
          HERE ARE THE FIVE, YOU KNOW, WORKING GROUP LISTS RANKED BY PRIORITY, NEXT SLIDE. 
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AND THEN THE B TTIP APPLIES THEIR CRITERIA, POSSIBLY RESORTS, POSSIBLY REPRIORITIZES ADDS THINGS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THEN WE END UP, AND JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THIS DISCUSSION, I I, I GROUPED EVERYTHING EQUALLY. 
          WE END UP WITH A PIE WITH PERCENTAGES. 
          AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE IS BASED ON A TOTAL BOND OF A BILLION DOLLARS. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE $200 MILLION IN EACH OF THE FIVE WORKING GROUP CATEGORY LISTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THEN WE TAKE THE PUBLIC INPUT. 
          WE, WE, WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES, NOT JUST BASED ON THE SURVEY FROM THE SUMMER, BUT A SURVEY FROM THE FALL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WHERE WE KEEP ASKING THIS QUESTION, WHERE DO YOU WANT YOUR MONEY SPENT? AND THIS ASSUMES I USE THE SAME, ROUGHLY THE PERCENTAGES FROM THE ORIGINAL SURVEY. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT CHANGES THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. 
          NOW WE ARE GONNA PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THE LIST THAT WE HAVE AND SEE HOW WE COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, 41% IS GONNA BE MADE UP OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS JUST THE PIE SHOWING YOU HOW WE'RE SPENDING THE CATEGORIES AND THE PERCENTAGES AT, AT $1 BILLION. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL SLIDE, THIS ASSUMES THE BOND PACKAGE OF 690 MILLION. 
          WE STILL USE THE SAME PERCENTAGES THE PUBLIC HAS INFORMED US ON JUST THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, OBVIOUSLY GET DOWN, GO DOWN, AND WE HAVE TO DELIVER LISTS OF PROJECTS THAT, UM, MEET, MEET THAT DIFFERENT SPENDING LEVEL. 
          OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. 
          THAT'S JUST THE PIE CHART SHOWING THOSE SAME THINGS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY, SO HERE WE ARE. 
          THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A, UH, A POSSIBLE PROCESS. 
          I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT'S THE PROCESS WE HAVE TO USE, BUT IT'S A POSSIBLE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS, INCORPORATING PUBLIC INPUT, INCORPORATING THE B TTIP CRITERIA, ENDING WITH A RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO NOW THE QUESTION IS WHAT CRITERIA WILL WE USE AS THE LARGER GROUP TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS, UM, HOLISTICALLY IN, IN PRE PREVIOUS MEETINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GEOGRAPHICAL BALANCE. 
          IS THAT A VALUE THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE? THERE'S SOME GEOGRAPHICAL BALANCE. 
          IS THERE IS, DO WE HAVE A VALUE THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS UNDERSERVED, UNDER INVESTED COMMUNITIES, UM, CARBON NEUTRAL, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COST TO O AND M, WHAT COULD ONE OF OUR VALUES BE THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO PRIORITIZE THOSE THAT DON'T SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE O AND M GIVEN THE CITY'S BOND, UH, CITY'S, UH, BUDGET ISSUES. 
          I'M GONNA STOP THERE AND JUST SORT OF FRAME THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT, WHEN WE ALL COME BACK TOGETHER AFTER THE WORKING GROUP HAS DONE, THEY'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, TREMENDOUS WORK TO DELIVER LISTS, HOW ARE WE THEN GOING TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT FORTH? SO NOW I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE GROUP TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          CHAY HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST. 
          SORRY, BEFORE WE HAVE THE BIG VALUES CONVERSATION, UM, I JUST HAD A PROCESS QUESTION, MARY. 
          I WAS WONDERING, UM, GIVEN WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, WE HEARD FROM MARCUS EARLIER ABOUT, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE CITY IS GONNA BRING US PUBLICLY SUBMITTED PROJECTS AT SOME POINT AFTER OCTOBER 31ST WITH, UM, THEIR ANALYSIS OF THOSE. 
          HOW DO YOU INTEND TO FOLD THOSE INTO THIS PROCESS AND HOW DO WE DO SO IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T DISADVANTAGE THEM RELATIVE TO THE LIST THE CITY HAS GIVEN US? RIGHT. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S AN ISSUE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS. 
          THE WORKING GROUPS WON'T COME TO THE FULL B TIFF UNTIL STARTING IN JANUARY. 
          AND IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF THE ORDER IN WHICH WE COME TO THE BTF, THAT WE PUT WORKING GROUPS FIRST THAT MAY HAVE FEWER OF THOSE. 
          I'M KIND OF IMAGINING LIKE STORM WATER OR THINGS THAT MAYBE THE PUBLIC ISN'T SUBMITTING ON. 
          NOT TO DIMINISH THE IMPORTANCE OF STORMWATER, BUT WE MIGHT, I I'M HOPING THAT BETWEEN MIDDLE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND THOSE FIRST WORKING GROUP PRESENTATIONS IN FEBRUARY, MARCH, WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE THOSE OTHER PROJECTS DUE DUE PROCESS. 
          YEAH, AND I THINK LIKE THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE LIST, RIGHT, WE'RE UTILIZING THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE EXPERTISE AND THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM THE COM, THE WORKING GROUP. 
          SO I WOULD IMAGINE I WOULD WANT THE WORKING GROUP'S THOUGHTS ABOUT THE SUBMITTED PROJECTS AS WELL, RIGHT? SO I DON'T THINK THE SUBMITTED PROJECTS COME TO THE LARGER B TIFF GROUP BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH THE WORKING GROUPS, RIGHT? SIMILARLY, IS THAT 
          [01:25:01]
WHAT YOU'RE, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT I WAS IMAGINING AS WELL. 
          LIKE THEY'RE NOT TREATED ANY DIFFERENT AND THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE AS WELL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST A TIMING, BUT YES, I AGREE. 
          AND DO YOU, I MEAN, I GUESS MY QUESTION, MARCUS, DO WE HAVE, HOW MANY PROJECTS RIGHT NOW ARE IN THE QUEUE? DO WE KNOW? IS IT LIKE, ARE WE LOOKING AT 30, 40, 50 PROJECTS OR IS IT MORE LIKE 10? BECAUSE I THINK THAT ALSO MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE AS WELL. 
          SO I KNOW RECENTLY WE DID A QUICK CHECK AND WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED IN THE, IN THE QUEUE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO GO AHEAD. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, I MEAN, I DO PERSONALLY WANNA SEE THE LIST REGARDLESS OF PRIORITIZATION, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING THROUGH IT. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT. 
          UM, NOT TOTALLY SURPRISING, UM, IN TERMS OF KIND OF APPLYING THE, UH, PERCENTAGES, I GUESS I'LL JUST SAY I, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE WERE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT WE SAW ON THE SLIDES, MARY, WERE THEY I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T LINE UP. 
          THERE WERE, THEY WERE MORE THAN FIVE PERCENTAGES, BUT THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, PARKLAND, UHHUH, , THOSE PERCENTAGE USED FROM THE SURVEY DATA. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND, AND WE DON'T, I GUESS I WOULDN'T, YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE MAYBE ENCOURAGE US TO USE THOSE AS A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT IS IMPORTANT AND NOT SO MUCH A, UM, TEMPLATE OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WORD IS, BUT DISCRIMINATOR, UM, I, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF PROJECTS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT FALLS INTO WHAT CATEGORY, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, WE QUICKLY BECAME AWARE AND THE FACILITIES AND AS ASSETS WORKING GROUP THAT LIKE, OH BOY, , A LOT OF THESE, UM, PROJECTS GO THERE. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS THAT WAS JUST MY KIND OF GUT REACTION IS LIKE, WELL, I'M NOT SURE THIS IS GONNA END UP IN A PLACE THAT IS TOTALLY LOGICAL. 
          UM, SO WE, WE MIGHT NOT WANNA YEAH. 
          TAKE THAT VERBATIM LUKE AND THEN GARY. 
          YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I MEAN, I TOOK THAT SURVEY AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE CITY THINKS WE NEED, RIGHT? AND SO IT WAS JUST VIBES BASED. 
          AND, UH, SO I DEFINITELY THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER COMMUNITY INPUT AND I THINK THE PRESENTATIONS WE'RE GETTING HERE AND THE OTHER OUTREACH WE'LL BE, THAT'S FAR MORE VALUABLE THAN THE SURVEY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, VERY BLUNT AND, UH, UNUSEFUL, I THINK, UH, INSTRUMENT. 
          AND THEN, UH, BUT I THINK THE, THE RUBRIC, UH, OR THE, UH, THAT THE SIT THE STAFF PUT TOGETHER I THINK IS REALLY LOOKS REALLY GREAT. 
          AND I, I THINK RATHER THAN COME UP WITH A WHOLE SEPARATE PROCESS, WE COULD JUST ASSIGN DIFFERENT VALUES TO THE, TO THINGS OF, UH, RIGHT NOW LOOKS LIKE THE EFFECTIVE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED NEED FOR THE PROJECT, GETS A MAXIMUM OF FOUR POINTS. 
          IF, IF WE WANT TO WEIGH IN COMMUNITY INPUT MORE, LET'S GIVE MORE POINTS TO THAT. 
          UM, OR, UM, THE O AND M IS IN HERE AS WELL, BUT I THINK THAT GETS A MAXIMUM OF FOUR POINTS. 
          SO LET'S JUST TWEAK THE, THIS RUBRIC THEN COME UP WITH A SEPARATE SYSTEM. 
          CAN I ASK LUKE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT? ARE YOU MEANING AT THE, THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL, OR ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE B TIFF, THE B TIFF LEVEL, HAVE THIS CRITERIA THAT WE THEN, WE THEN VOTE, I MEAN, SCORE, THE WORKING GROUP WOULDN'T SCORE IT? OH, BOTH, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A USEFUL FOR BOTH THE WORKING GROUP AND THE FULL AS A, AS A STARTING POINT. 
          AND THEN, UM, YEAH, YEAH, I, I JUST THINK THAT, THAT THAT SCORING MATRIX WON'T BE AS HELPFUL TO LIKE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. 
          SO WE'D HAVE HAVE TO KIND OF COME UP WITH, YEAH, I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE. 
          THAT'S WHY I WISH THE, UM, THE, THE 20 POINTS AVAILABLE FOR, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE RESILIENCE, UH, THAT THERE WAS A, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, CRITERIA THAT CAME UP DON'T, DON'T WORK FOR OPEN SPACE, SO LET'S JUST COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT 20 POINTS THAT, OR MAYBE OPEN SPACE BY, BY, UH, BY NATURE OF THE PROJECT IS A DEFAULT TO GREEN PROJECT, SO IT GETS THE FULL 20 POINTS OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT LET'S COME UP WITH SOME SYSTEMS SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, UM, CLEARLY APPLY THAT. 
          OKAY, JERRY? YEAH. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          AND I'LL JUST ECHO, UH,  AND LUKE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE PUBLIC INPUT. 
          UM, I, I DON'T, I NEVER ENVISIONED THAT THOSE SURVEY RESULTS WOULD BE PLUGGED INTO A FORMULA AND I CERTAINLY TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT, UM, BUT THAT ACTUALLY DO MATH USING THOSE, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS CERTAINLY MY EXPECTATION AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THE SURVEY, IT WAS PART OF 
          [01:30:01]
THE EXPECTATION ALSO THAT THEY DIDN'T, NO ONE KNEW WHAT THE PROJECTS WERE AT THAT TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT THEY WERE RESPONDING TO THAT. 
          UM, AND, AND FINALLY, I GUESS THAT'S OUR, ONE OF OUR JOBS IS WITH THIS TASK FORCE IS TO TAKE ALL THAT INFORMATION AND STRUCTURE IT. 
          I'LL ALSO SAY AS FAR AS OVERALL CRITERIA, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY KEEPING IN MIND THAT AS THE PROJECTS CAME FORWARD ON THE LIST, THEY WERE ALL, UH, RUN THROUGH THE MATRIX OF THE SIX CRITERIA FOR THE CITY THAT WE HEARD ALL THOSE PRESENTATIONS ABOUT HOW EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS APPLIED THOSE, THOSE CRITERIA WITH DIFFERENT WEIGHTS. 
          AND SO THEY ALL GOT THOSE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GET ANOTHER SET OF CRITERIA WITHIN EACH WORKING GROUP. 
          SO IF WE'RE GONNA BE THINKING ABOUT OVERALL TASK FORCE CRITERIA, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAD NOT ALREADY BEEN CONSIDERED AND GIVEN WEIGHT IN THE OTHER EVALUATION PROCESSES THAT THESE PROJECTS WENT THROUGH BEFORE THEY EVEN SHOWED UP, YOU KNOW, TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE FULL TASK FORCE. 
          YEAH, I DID WANNA MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN I SEE RACHEL'S HAND, I, I, 'CAUSE I WASN'T QUITE UNDERSTANDING THE PUBLIC INPUT NOW THAT I'VE SEEN IT AND YOU'VE WALKED THROUGH IT, MARY, I THINK USING THE SURVEY WOULD BE TRICKY MOSTLY. 
          'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE, THE INPUT SURVEY, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LITERALLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE PUBLIC INPUT. 
          I GUESS MY, I THINK THE CONCERN IS IF WE ALL READ THE COMMENTS, THEN WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN JUDGEMENTS ON WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT AND WHAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. 
          AND SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT, WE WANNA CONSIDER PUBLIC INPUT IF WE DON'T WANT TO USE THE, UH, SURVEY PERCENTAGE OVER. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT, MIGHT NEED TO JUST THINK NOODLE ON SOME MORE IS LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO LITERALLY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO SAY, OH, BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD ALL THESE COMMENTS ABOUT X, THAT SHOULD GET MORE PRIORITY IF WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MORE, UM, PARTICIPATION ACROSS THE CITY THAT'S KIND OF LIKE REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT. 
          AND SO THIS LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT TO SOME EXTENT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THOSE JUDGEMENTS AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AND NOT, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE WEIGHT OF THIS GROUP. 
          AND SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO READ THE PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN KIND OF TAKE A STAND AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH ABOUT IT. 
          SO THAT IS MAYBE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO INSTEAD, RACHEL. 
          YEAH, I AGREE. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY, I MEAN, I KNOW THE, MAYBE THE SURVEY WASN'T EXACTLY THE RIGHT, UM, PIECE OF INFORMATION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT US, LIKE RATIONALLY LISTENING TO PEOPLE AND, AND MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON WHO COMES TO TALK TO US. 
          IT IS A VOTER APPROVED BOND. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT WE NEED WAYS TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE WANTING BECAUSE WE CAN'T PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT IS NOT, UM, NOT, NOT WHAT THE PUBLIC NOT GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD BY THE PUBLIC. 
          SO I, I WOULD LIKE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING IT BE, UM, WEIGHTED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS, BUT I, I THINK FINDING THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THAT, I DON'T THINK JUST WEIGHTING THAT CATEGORY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN TERMS OF THIS LARGER RUBRIC IS GONNA GIVE IT THE TRUE, UM, WEIGHT THAT IT NEEDS IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GONNA GO CAST THEIR BALLOT FOR. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          JUST ONE OTHER THOUGHT TO MARY'S POINT, UM, ABOUT MAKING SURE OPEN SPACE, UH, GETS THE, UM, APPROPRIATE DUE, UH, I THINK THE, HOPEFULLY THE CLIMATE ASSESSMENT, UM, WILL, WILL, WOULD BE WHERE, YOU KNOW, UH, AT THE FULL BTF LEVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, OPEN SPACE PROBABLY WOULD GET EXTRA POINTS BECAUSE IT IS, YOU KNOW, A CARBON, YOU KNOW, SINK POTENTIALLY. 
          UM, AND SO PERHAPS ONCE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING GROUPS, UH, PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SAY A BILLION DOLLARS OR, OR SO OF, OF PROJECTS, WE CAN ASK, UH, THE CLIMATE STAFF TO DO AT LEAST THAT ROUGH ESTIMATE AND THEN AT THE B TIFF LEVEL ALONG WITH THESE OTHER FACTORS, UM, CAN, CAN FACTOR THAT IN. 
          I, I, I DO WANNA SAY I FEEL LIKE LUKE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO SUGGESTED A SUGGESTION TO MARY'S ORIGINAL QUESTION AND HE SUGGESTED THAT WE CONSIDER THE CITY'S RUBRIC. 
          I DO WANNA MAKE SURE IF PEOPLE HAVE THINGS THAT THEY WANT THE B TIFF TO CONSIDER AS LIKE THE HIGH LEVEL, LIKE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE KIND OF WHAT THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT IS THIS IDEA OF BTF CRITERIA. 
          I THINK I, WE WANT EVERYONE TO KIND OF RESPOND TO THAT. 
          AND SO I KNOW LUKE ALREADY SAID STARTING WITH THE CITY'S RUBRIC AND MAYBE ADJUSTING IT. 
          AND SO I WANNA JUST MAKE SURE WE GIVE EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AS I'M JUST KINDA LOOKING THROUGH THIS, UH, A COUPLE THINGS COME TO MIND. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, IN THE CONTEXT OF HAVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL INVESTMENT PLAN KIND OF SHELVED AND THEN THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE INCORPORATING THAT, I FEEL LIKE CLIMATE SHOULD HAVE 
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MORE POINTS, UM, AS A CATEGORY. 
          UM, BUT ALSO, UM, THIS RUBRIC SEEMS TO ONLY HAVE CLIMATE MITIGATION AND RESILIENCE IS THE ONLY ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA THAT GET POINTS AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. 
          SO NOT SEEING ANYTHING ABOUT SAY AIR QUALITY OR WATER QUALITY, JUST OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, ASPECTS THAT I THINK WOULD PROBABLY BE FACTORS FOR AT LEAST SOME PROJECTS. 
          SO THOSE, THOSE ARE TWO COMMENTS RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THE INCREASING THE OVERALL POINTS TO CLIMATE, UM, GIVEN THAT PART OF THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A CLIMATE BUNCH, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU CONSIDER AIR QUALITY WATER QUALITY AS EXTRA POINTS? BECAUSE I MEAN, ALL THESE PROJECTS DON'T HAVE THAT STUFF. 
          SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT US CONSIDERING IT, I MEAN, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT 'CAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO CAPTURE ALL THE IDEAS SO THAT WE CAN YEAH. 
          COME BACK WITH THEM OR YOU, OR IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR SUGGESTION? I GUESS I'M SAYING AN ADDITIONAL, UM, SECTION IN HERE OF JUST LIKE EN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS PERHAPS, OR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT I GUESS WOULD BE MORE GARY TO OH, SORRY. 
          NO, TO ADD TO WHAT KATE SAYING IS I'M REALLY, I HOPE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE, BUT I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THIS CITY'S CAPACITY TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH WHEN OUR WATER IS IN DANGER AND, AND ALONG WITH THAT WATER QUALITY. 
          SO YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL THINGS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING, BUT IF WE HAVE NO WATER, THIS CITY IS GONNA BE, YEAH, IT'LL BE A DANGEROUS AREA TO LIVE IN. 
          SO THERE'S SOME BASIC THINGS THAT HAVE TO EXIST AND WHAT ONE OF THEM IS WATER? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CITY, ANY COMMUNITY THAT CAN EXIST WITHOUT WATER. 
          AND SO SOME OF THIS, I KNOW, UM, IT'S SOMEWHAT DISHEARTENING TO SEE THE WHERE STORM WATER LANDED IN THE, IN THE GRAPH THERE. 
          AND I THOUGHT, WHOA, SO SOME PEOPLE, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T SEE IT, IT'S NOT UNTIL SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS THAT PEOPLE THINK, OH, WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I, THIS GROUP IS, HAS THAT CAPACITY TO DO THAT AND BE FORWARD THINKING AND PLANNING APPROPRIATELY FOR THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL THINGS, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE BASICS, THEN WE'RE IN TROUBLE AND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GONNA PRESENT A BAD PRODUCT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL AND FOR OUR, OUR RESIDENTS TO VOTE ON. 
          SO I, I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED IF WE'RE NOT TAKING, YOU KNOW, CARE OF LIKE WATER QUALITY, AIR QUALITY, THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, SO, AND STORM WATER'S TOTALLY TIED INTO THAT. 
          AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT NORTHWEST AUSTIN, WHAT A MONTH AGO WITH THE FLOODING THAT HAPPENED AND ALL, SO IF THAT RAIN BOMB HAD BEEN FURTHER SOUTH, CENTRAL AUSTIN WOULD'VE BEEN FEELING THAT, YOU KNOW, SO IT, SO WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF CLIMATE, YOU KNOW, CHANGE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THE QUESTION ABOUT CRITERIA, UM, THIS ACTUALLY TIES BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS, THE PRESENTATION BEFORE, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE SCORING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OF THE PROJECTS. 
          NONE OF THOSE, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY AN A CARBON ASSESSMENT SCORING THAT'S ABOUT POLICIES. 
          AND, AND SO FOR ME A CRITERIA WOULD BE AN ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, AN IMPACT STATEMENT OR A TRUE CARBON ASSESSMENT OF THE PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO RANK THEM, YOU KNOW, APPLES TO APPLES IN THAT WAY. 
          UNDERSTANDING ALSO YOU'VE GOT PROGRAMS AND NAME PROJECTS. 
          UM, SO I WOULD CERTAINLY BE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN, IN THAT. 
          I, I LIKED OUR, THE CONVERS OR THE PRESENTATION, THE COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS AND YOU KNOW, HOW TO MOVE THOSE FORWARD OR GIVE THOSE SPECIFIC, UM, WEIGHT. 
          SO IF THAT'S THE CORRECT EVALUATION CRITERIA, I'D SURE LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT HOW WE COULD THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN PROJECTS THAT SERVE MULTIPLE BENEFITS. 
          I I THINK EVERYONE HAS HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND OTHERS HAVE AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE MOST, UM, USE OF OF THESE DOLLARS BY FINDING OR PRIORITIZING PROJECTS THAT MEET MULTIPLE, UH, CRITERIA OR PROVIDE MULTIPLE BENEFITS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ONLINE WANNA ADD? MARY RACHEL, ONE OF ONE OF YOUR OLD CHIME JUMP? YEAH. 
          UM, JUST LOOKING OVER, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA USE THE RUBRIC. 
          I, WELL NO, EITHER WAY. 
          I THINK LEVERAGE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I THINK, UM, I SEE ON THE RUBRIC FROM THE 
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CITY, IT JUST, THE HIGHEST CATEGORY IS ONE OTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING. 
          I DON'T, I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD BE THINKING REALISTICALLY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT PROJECTS HAVE, YOU KNOW, ARE ARE ABLE TO BE FUNDED BY OTHER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE BRINGING IN OTHER SOURCES AND ARE NOT, HE LIKE HEAVILY RELYING ON CITY FUNDS AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IF THEY ARE RELYING HEAVILY ON FEDERAL FUNDING AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA COME THROUGH. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, UM, CONSIDERING THOSE FACTORS. 
          UM, AND I'D ALSO, THE TIMELINESS, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IN VERY EARLY PHASES I'D LIKE TO KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE US NOT FUNDING PROJECTS THAT ARE, OR AT LEAST DISCUSSING PROJECTS THAT ARE PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEY'RE IN SUCH AN EARLY PHASE, COULD BE FUNDED AT A DIFFERENT TIME. 
          UM, SO KEEPING IN KEEPING THAT AS PART OF OUR, THE, THE PROJECT TIMELINESS. 
          UM, AND OKAY, I, I'LL STOP THERE. 
          A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROJECT TIMELINESS. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED IN THE WORKING GROUP ONLY? 'CAUSE THAT'S A DE THAT'S A, IN THE WEEDS DETAIL, I'M JUST ASKING IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AS THE BIG BTF DISCUSS? I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT IS, I JUST WANTED TO ASK. 
          UM, I AM, I'M NOT NECESSARILY MEANING THE WHOLE GROUP, BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE THE, THE, THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE EVERYONE WORKING ON, LIKE, I WOULD WANT THAT, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHICH LEVEL WE'RE TALKING ON, BUT I WOULD WANT THAT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS ON IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE GROUP. 
          LIKE IF SOMETHING COMES FORWARD AND IT'S LIKE, WELL THE WORKING GROUP THOUGHT THIS WAS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S A BELOVED PROJECT, BUT WE KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA BE FINISHED IN THIS PHASE. 
          I WOULD HOPE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UM, TALK ABOUT ON THE HIGHER LEVEL. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT EXPLAINS YOUR QUESTION. 
          WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING MARY. 
          YEAH, I'M JUST WONDERING, I I THINK KIND OF WHAT I MIGHT BE HEARING IS THE SUGGESTION THAT WE, WE, AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL START, START WITH THE CITY RUBRIC, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS THAT MIGHT NEED NECESSARY BASED ON THE WORKING GROUP. 
          SO WE ALL START FROM SORT, SORT OF THE SAME PLACE AND WE COME UP WITH A, WITH A RUBRIC AT THE WORKING GROUP BASED ON THAT SAME CITY ONE BECAUSE I I, I DON'T KNOW THE REALLY THE BENEFIT OF REUSING THEIRS IF THERE WERE ALREADY GONNA GET THEIR SCORE. 
          ASSUMING WE DO SOMETHING, WE WEIGHT THEIR SCORE SOMEHOW AND THEN IF EACH WORKING GROUP WHEN THEY COME TO PRESENT TO US, WE GET TO SEE THEIR SCORING, RIGHT? THIS IS THE RUBRIC WE USED AND THEN I, I, I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO THEN I'VE WRITTEN SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES DOWN, WHETHER IT'S AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL OR AT THE B TIFF LEVEL TO THEN APPLY THOSE ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UM, SORT OF THESE ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE AT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO TODAY IS WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT ACROSS PROJECTS, RIGHT? BUT OF THOSE THINGS. 
          BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE WORKING GROUP, STARTING WITH THE CITY RUBRIC. 
          THAT'S KIND OF HELPFUL, BUT I STILL THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE COME ALL BACK TOGETHER, WHAT ARE WE USING? AND I WROTE DOWN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS. 
          LEVERAGE I THOUGHT WAS A REALLY A GOOD ONE ACROSS. 
          UM, ANYWAY, I JUST, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M START. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE MAYBE STARTING TO KIND OF COALESCE AROUND, STARTING WITH THE CITY RUBRIC AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL AND THEN ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS B TIFF LEVEL. 
          JUST ONE COMMENT ON THE, THE TOPIC OF LEVERAGE. 
          I REALLY LIKE THAT LENS OF IF WE SPEND THIS MONEY, IT UNLOCKS THIS LARGER POOL OF MONEY THAT ALLOWS US TO DO SOMETHING. 
          I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, THINK OF IT I THINK BACKWARDS OR A DIFFERENT WAY OF, IF WE DON'T SPEND THIS MONEY, THIS THING HAS NO OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS, UH, AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERSUS, WELL IF WE DON'T SPEND THIS, THIS TYPE OF MONEY ON IT, IT HAS OTHER REVENUE FUNDING, IT CAN BE FUNDED BY OTHER FORMS OF, YOU KNOW, MONEY OUTSIDE OF THIS, THIS PARTICULAR BOND CYCLE. 
          AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I, I'M KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT AS THINGS START FILTERING THROUGH THIS EXAMPLE RUBRIC OR ANY OTHER ONE OF THOSE. 
          SORRY, SORRY IF THAT GIVES YOU ALL MORE WORK, MARCUS? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO TIMELINESS. 
          UM, WHEN WHATEVER IS IN THE BOND ELECTION, IF THE BOND ELECTION PASSES, NOT ALL THE PROJECTS START THE NEXT DAY, THIS IS PHASED OUT OVER SIX YEARS. 
          SO NOT EVERY PROJECT IN THE BOND ELECTION HAS TO BE SHOVEL READY ON DAY ONE. 
          AND IF YOU PUT TOO MUCH WEIGHT ON TIMELINESS, WHAT YOU ARE, WHAT YOU ARE WAITING IS THE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY INVESTED, UH, FUNDING IN PLANNING AND 
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ENGINEERING WORK. 
          SO WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING IS SELECTING THAT IS THAT'S GONNA LEAD YOU TO PRIORITIZING THE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY'S PLACED ON THE LIST AND IT'S GONNA DISADVANTAGE THE PROJECTS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS PLACING ON THE LIST. 
          I THINK THERE, UM, I JUST WANNA, JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THAT 'CAUSE I WAS JUST MEANING LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE SITE WORK, BUT THE REST OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS NOT IN THE PACKAGE. 
          AND SO IT'D BE HELPFUL TO KNOW, IS THAT SITE WORK GONNA GET DONE ON YEAR SIX AND THEN THE EXPECTATION IS IT'S BUILT SOME OTHER WAY OR IS IT LIKE THE SITE WORK IS GETTING DONE NOW AND WE HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER BOND ELECTION TO GET THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT ONE. 
          SO IT'S ACTUALLY A PROJECT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS AWAY, COULD IT WAIT TILL THE NEXT BOND ELECTION TO JUST DO IT ALL AT ONCE? WAS MORE WHAT I MEANT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, BUT THAT THIS THE, THE QUESTION OF TIMELINESS HAS COME UP IN SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, I WANT, I JUST WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE THAT IT IS A SIX YEAR PROGRAM AND NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE READY ON DAY ONE. 
          THERE'S ROOM IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR A PROJECT THAT HASN'T GOTTEN FUNDING ALREADY TO DO ENGINEERING AND BE SHOVEL READY TO STILL BE A VIABLE PROJECT WITHIN THE SIX YEAR PERIOD. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, AND I GUESS I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HAVE SOME, IF, IF IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, QUOTE SHOVEL READY, BUT THE SCOPE IS DEFINED ENOUGH, NARROW ENOUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS PART OF THE CONCERN WAS LIKE THE, THE PRO THE UM, CORRIDOR PROJECTS, THEY WERE VERY FAR REACHING AND NOT REALLY SHOVEL READY. 
          AND SO THINGS JUST DIDN'T QUITE GO AS PLANNED. 
          UM, BUT SOME PROJECTS ARE JUST NARROWER SO THERE'S LIKE LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR THINGS TO GO TOTALLY OFF THE, OFF THE PLANNED BUDGET, I GUESS. 
          UM, SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO INCORPORATE THAT, THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BREADTH OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND I WAS, UM, JUST GONNA MAKE A SUGGESTION, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OTHERS ALSO SUPPORT HAVING OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA THAT MAYBE WE ADD LIKE A WATER SECTION, MAYBE IT'S A, A, A WATER QUALITY SECTION AND A LIKE AN AIR QUALITY SECTION TO WHAT IS RIGHT NOW CALLED CLIMATE RESILIENCE. 
          BUT OF COURSE IS ACTUALLY ALSO CLIMATE MITIGATION. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT YES, ACTUALLY HAVING A LIKE, GREENHOUSE GAS IMPACT. 
          AND SO MAYBE THAT WHOLE SECTION BECOMES MORE POINTS AND IS JUST CALLED LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SECTION, WE JUST ADD SUBSECTIONS TO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I WOULD SAY, AND MARY, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I'M CAPTURING. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'M HEARING A BIG, UH, UH, DESIRE FOR THERE TO BE ELEVATED CLIMATE ITEMS, RIGHT? LIKE I THINK THERE'S A BUCKET FOR THAT. 
          THERE'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE HEARING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT THINGS AND SO WE JUST NEED TO FEEL GOOD AND IDENTIFY THOSE. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONES I FEEL LIKE ARE MORE ABOUT KIND OF LIKE FEASIBILITY AND WHAT WE THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT. 
          AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT INTO NUMBERS OR ARE WE JUST GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS THEM, RIGHT? BECAUSE LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TIMELINESS, LEVERAGE, UM, I REALLY LIKE THE MULTIPLE PROJECT CRITERIA IDEA THAT THEY HAVE MULTIPLE BENEFITS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE, THAT SECOND HALF IS. 
          SO TO ME, MARY, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF REITERATE WHAT I'M HEARING KIND OF LIKE TWO BUCKETS AROUND THIS ENVIRONMENTAL CLIMATE CHANGE AND THIS IDEA OF LIKE WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THE MONEY KIND OF THING. 
          AND PRO LEVERAGE TIMELINESS AND MULTIPLE BENEFITS ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT ELEVATED. 
          DID I MISS ANYTHING? THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          MARY. 
          I, I GUESS I'M JUST A LITTLE, MAYBE I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. 
          YOU KNOW, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT , WERE WE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THOSE TO THE WORKING GROUP RUBRICS? OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BEING, I WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR OUR OVERALL RUBRIC? THE O OKAY. 
          YEAH, THE STUFF THAT I WAS MENTIONING MARY, WAS FOR THE BTF CRITERIA AFTER THE PROJECTS HAVE MADE IT OUT OF, WE'LL HAVE THE, WE'LL ALL HAVE THE PRIORITIZED WORKING GROUP PROJECT LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WE, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE KIND OF HOW TO, YOU KNOW, NEXT STEPS ON THIS. 
          I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD START, BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO START TO DEVELOP IS A SEPARATE, A SECOND RUBRIC IN THE STYLE OF THE CITIES, RIGHT? THAT WE'RE GONNA USE 
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FOR THE BTF AND WE CAN START POPULATING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO SCORE, ET CETERA. 
          I KNOW, UH, MAYBE WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO TRY TO BRING BACK SOMETHING NEXT MONTH? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT MAKING A BIP DECISION TILL WINTER TIME. 
          SO NEXT MONTH WE COULD BRING BACK A A, A DRAFT WITH SOME OF THESE HIGHER LEVEL A B TIFF LEVEL CATEGORIES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RACHEL, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. 
          WELL, AND I STILL THINK IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE ETHOS OF WHAT WE'RE, OF WHAT WE WANT THE WORKING GROUPS TO BE WORKING THROUGH, BUT THE WORKING GROUPS WILL APPLY THEIR OWN CRITERIA 'CAUSE IT IS GONNA MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          IF WE KIND OF LAY OUT THE OVERALL, I WOULD CALL IT MORE LIKE GOALS THAN UM, LIKE SCORING RUBRIC. 
          BUT, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA, I GUESS IF WE HAVE, SO IF WE WERE GONNA HAVE SAY WE WAY WE IDENTIFIED FOUR OVERARCHING GOALS OR VALUES THAT WE WANT THIS BOND PACKAGE TO, TO REFLECT WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT IN TIME WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHICH OF THESE SCORE HIGHER, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A SCORING OR A WAY TO INDIVIDUALLY AS A GROUP VOTE, I WOULD IMAGINE ON WHICH PROJECTS WE THINK SCORE BETTER ON THE GOALS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE SCORING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'M, UH, TOO BAD THAT QUESTION. 
          ARE WE SCORE, WILL WE HAVE SCORING OR WILL WE, WILL THAT JUST, WILL THAT JUST FOCUS OUR CONVERSATION AT THE B TIFF MEETINGS? OR ARE WE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE A SCORING AT THAT LEVEL? YEAH, I THINK WE WILL NEED SCORING. 
          I THINK WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO, AND I, I WISH NICOLE WAS HERE 'CAUSE I KNOW SHE'S DONE THIS AND I, I KNOW MAYBE RACHEL CAN SPEAK TO IT, BUT AT SOME POINT WE ARE ALSO GONNA HAVE TO MAKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO, WE, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO DECIDE. 
          LIKE JUST USING A SCORE IS REALLY HARD TO ULTIMATELY SELECT ALL YOUR PROJECTS. 
          THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A CON I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISCUSS IT. 
          SO THE SCORING IS LIKE PRELIMINARY, BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PICK THE PROJECTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH, I CAN'T REALLY, IMA I CAN IMAGINE HOW ONE COULD DO SCORING WITHIN THEIR WORKING GROUP, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA SCORE THE PROJECTS AGAINST EACH OTHER, THE WORK, THE BUCKETS AGAINST EACH OTHER. 
          UM, UNLESS WE'RE DOING SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE WOULD DO THAT. 
          SO I, I WOULD THINK IT'LL BE A, A DISCUSSION AND BASED ON WHAT WE THINK THE PUBLIC APPETITE IS, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CRITERIA THAT ARE BOTH OBJECTIVELY SCORED AND SUBJECTIVELY SCORED RIGHT FOR US AS A GROUP. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC AND IT'S KIND OF ONE OF OUR TASKS AS A TASK FORCE IS TO DO GO THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS, UM, ON THE, ON THE OBJECTIVE SCORING, JUST TO BRING IT BACK TO THIS, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE IS CARBON ASSESSMENT OR CLIMATE IMPACT STATEMENT. 
          I KNOW LUKE HAS ASKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE KAI HAS ASKED, UH, MARCUS, CAN I ASK YOU, IS THAT EVEN A POSSIBILITY TO GET THOSE AS OBJECTIVE NUMBERS? SO I THINK WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION WITH THAT WITH, WITH ZACH AND HIS TEAM AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK INTO. 
          BUT I MEAN, AS, AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT, I MEAN, SOME OF THIS IS THE TIMING OF THE PROJECT, RIGHT? AND THE SEQUENCING OF SOME OF THIS. 
          UM, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT DESIGN MATERIALS DESIGN, LIKE THOSE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT EVEN INTO THAT PHASE, RIGHT? SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT LIFECYCLE ANALYSIS, IT BECOMES VERY COMPLICATED AS, AS FAR AS DOING THAT. 
          SO THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE REALLY A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS THAT POTENTIALLY HAVE MADE IT THROUGH DESIGN OR, OR IN THAT, THAT PHASE OR SEQUENCE TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SCORE ON THAT RUBRIC. 
          BUT AGAIN, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS LONG TERM AS A CITY, WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR 2026, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE 2032, RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO HAVE OBJECTIVES FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO REACH AND TRY TO MEET, UM, AS THEY CONTINUE TO PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR, THEIR PROJECTS FROM DESIGN ALL THE WAY INTO CONSTRUCTION AND NEXT CYCLES AS WELL. 
          SO YEAH, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 
          TH SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND YOU'VE BEEN REALLY CONSISTENT ABOUT TALKING IN, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE TERMS THE WHOLE WAY. 
          AND SO I THINK FOR ME, I JUST NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S REAL OBJECTIVE CRITERIA THAT, YOU KNOW, I COULD RELY ON FOR THAT. 
          AND IT MAY NOT BE WHAT WE'D HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE CITY IN 2032, RIGHT? SO THIS IS MAYBE A DIFFERENT TIME, BUT UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, MARY, I THOUGHT, OH, I'LL LET DAVE ANSWER THEN. 
          I WAS GONNA, WELL I WAS JUST GONNA POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF THINGS DON'T HAVE TO BE VERY SPECIFICALLY NUMERICAL. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF A NEW LIBRARY WAS NEEDING NEEDED IN NORTHEAST NORTHWEST AUSTIN AND IT WAS TWO MILES OFF OF, UH, 180 3 SOMEPLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, WE WOULD KNOW THAT A BETTER PLACE WOULD BE AT LAKELINE MALL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE RED LINE IS. 
          AND SO AT THAT, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER FOR THAT. 
          WE SIMPLY HAVE TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A MASS TRANSIT AVAILABLE FOR THAT FACILITY. 
          SO, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE PART OF MY OWN 
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RUBRIC THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO REACH THAT PLACE WITHOUT DRIVING THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND SO I DO THINK, MARY, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO TIME, I DO THINK WE COULD START USING, KIND OF CREATE WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED AND I CAN GET WITH YOU, MARY, ABOUT IT AND WE CAN KIND OF MODEL THE PARTS THAT ARE, TO YOUR POINT, UM, WHERE WE CAN PUT A NUMBER TWO, I DO THINK SOME OF THESE THINGS WE COULD PUT A NUMBER TWO AND THEN THE MORE OBJECTIVE THINGS WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THEM DOWN THE ROAD LATER. 
          AND SO I THINK WE CAN START PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AS THE NEXT STEPS IS ACTUALLY PUTTING THIS ON PAPER AND GETTING EVERYONE NODDING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. 
          BUT I, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF WANTING SIMILAR THINGS. 
          AND SO I THINK YOU DIDN'T GET, GET A CHANCE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANNA SPEAK HERE. 
          I DEFINITELY THINK EMAIL IT TO NICOLE OR MARY SO THAT WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE THAT IN THE LARGER THING THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING TOGETHER. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER LASTING THOUGHTS? OH YEAH, SORRY. 
          YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THIS DISCUSSION. 
          I WONDER IF WE COULD EVEN JUST DO SOMETHING REALLY SIMPLE THAT'S JUST LIKE, THIS PROJECT'S LIKELY GONNA HAVE A MAJOR INCREASE IN EMISSIONS, A MINOR INCREASE IN EMISSIONS, NEUTRAL OR MA A MINOR REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS. 
          MAJOR REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THAT AS JUST A ROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, WAY TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE PROJECTS AND THEN WE COULD TRY TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU ADD 'EM ALL TOGETHER, IT'S AT LEAST NEUTRAL. 
          YEAH, I WAS THINKING ON A SIMILAR VEIN THAT LIKE MAYBE USING EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT WERE AT A LEAD LEVEL, WHATEVER'S BEING PROPOSED SIMILAR SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T BE EXACT, BUT SOMETHING TO BALLPARK. 
          I HATE TO ADD ANOTHER DIMENSION TO IT, BUT WOULD, WOULD THEY HIT THAT BREAKING POINT 10 YEARS OUT, 30 YEARS OUT? RIGHT. 
          I ALSO HAVE A, I HAVE A REAL, UM, LIKE I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA USE THOSE KINDS OF NUMBERS FOR EVERY BUILDING. 
          NOT EVERY BUILDING IN THE BOND PACKAGE IS GONNA BE BUILT BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, LIKE ARE WE NOT GONNA ACCEPT ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE FOR ARTIST VENUE SPACE IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE TO A LEAD LEVEL. 
          LIKE THOSE PROJECTS WON'T EVEN BE FATHOM YET UNLESS THEY'RE GONNA GET THE MONEY. 
          SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WILL KNOW, KNOW HOW TO USE THAT UNLESS IT'S VERY SPECIFICALLY CITY BUILT BUILDINGS. 
          WELL THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'LL BE HAVING  ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR US AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I THINK THIS WAS ALL REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          I THINK IT'S 3 58. 
          UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER PRESSING, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. 
          DO YOU WANNA ASK FOR ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OH, ARE THERE ANY FUTURE 
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AGENDA ITEMS? I KNOW WE WON'T BE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BY THE NEXT MEETING, SO I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT ITEM THREE WAS GONNA BE CONTINUED, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO ANYTHING THAT'S ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, I THINK WE, WE HAVE, I THINK ALL THREE WERE, I THINK WE HAVE CONVER, I THINK WE HAVE MORE AGENDA ITEMS FOR ALL THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THERE. 
          I, I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION AND DETERMINE SPECIFIC, IF WE CAN GET TO OBJECTIVE INFORMATION ABOUT CLIMATE, IMPACT OF PROJECTS, WHATEVER IT IS, WHETHER IT'S RANK OF SLIDING SCALE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE EITHER KNOW IT'S A CRITERIA OR IT'S NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? AND THEN ALSO, UH, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK TO THE, THE DOCUMENT THAT MARY CREATED IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION. 
          WHO MOVED? I'LL MOVE. 
          JC MOVED. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. 
          MEETING ADJOURNED AT FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          MY KIND OF MEETING WELL RUN.
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