Sep 09, 2025 Planning Commission

WE ALSO HAVE VISITING WITH US CHAIR COHEN, OUR EX OFFICIO MEMBER, CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

AND WE'RE GONNA SEE IF MS. HUNTER SHOWS UP TONIGHT.

UH, PER USUAL, TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE HYBRID, ALLOWING FOR, BUT VIRTUAL QUORUM WITH THE CHAIR PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS.

AS SUCH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS HERE IN THE CHAMBERS AND ATTENDANCE VIRTUALLY, SIMILARLY, SPEAKERS CAN PRESENT FROM THE CHAMBERS OR PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY VIRTUAL COMMISSIONERS.

PLEASE SIGN IN AND SEND YOUR SIGN IN SHEET TO OUR STAFF LIAISON.

AND PLEASE HAVE YOUR GREEN, YELLOW, AND RED ITEMS READY.

IF I MISS YOU, PLEASE SPEAK UP.

JUST SHOUT, WAVE, YELL.

AND IF YOU ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION TAKING UP YOUR ITEMS. WE WILL HAVE ASSISTANCE FROM MS. GARCIA.

UH, WE ALL MISS YOUR GRANDFATHER, MS. GARCIA, MAYOR GARCIA, AND IN ANNOUNCING THE PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION; GENERAL]

SPEAKERS.

AND IF WE COULD, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THAT.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

CHAIR, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS FAASI BAEZ.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS FAYE KAZI FOR DISTRICT SEVEN.

UM, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE STEPPED INTO THESE CHAMBERS.

WHEN I STEPPED DOWN FROM PLANNING COMMISSION IN 2020, UH, IT WAS A BITTERSWEET MOMENT FOR ME.

UM, I HAD POURED SO MUCH OF MYSELF INTO THE WORK THAT WE DID ON THE CODE REWRITE AND THE CODE NEXT PRIOR TO THAT.

AND, UM, IF I'M BEING HONEST, I STILL HAVE A LOT OF PTSD FROM THAT PROCESS AND STEPPING INTO THESE CHAMBERS.

UM, MY STOMACH TURNED A LITTLE BIT, UM, BUT I GET TO SIT IN A DIFFERENT SEAT NOW WATCHING TWO COLLEAGUES THAT I RESPECT IMMENSELY.

AVES AND GREG CLOSE THEIR OWN CHAPTERS OF SERVICE ON THIS COMMISSION, AND IT'S A MOMENT WORTH PAUSING TO HONOR FOR MYSELF.

SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT JUST ABOUT CASTING VOTES, IT'S ABOUT HOURS OF PREPARATION, WRESTLING WITH COMPLEX CODE AND POLICY, AND THEN STEPPING INTO THIS CHAMBER TO LISTEN TO TESTIMONY FROM COM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM STAFF, AND TO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER TO WEIGH ALL OF THAT WITH FAIRNESS AND COURAGE.

IT'S NOT GLAMOROUS.

UH, AVIS BROUGHT A SENSE OF PRINCIPLE INTEGRITY TO EVERY CONVERSATION.

UH, I GOT TO KNOW THIS AND GREG AND PATRICK HOWARD VERY CLOSELY DURING THAT PROCESS, AND BOTH OF THEM LEFT AN IMPRINT ON MYSELF AND HAVE GIVEN COUNTLESS HOURS OF THEIR LIVES TO THE CITY.

THEY'VE WRESTLED WITH THE, WITH TOUGH ISSUES AROUND HOUSING, MOBILITY, GROWTH AND EQUITY.

UM, AND AS SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW HEAVY THAT RESPONSIBILITY FEELS, I WANT TO SAY THAT YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS MATTERED.

AND ALL OF THE OTHER PLANNING COMMISSIONS THAT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET AND GET TO KNOW YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS MATTER.

SO ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED BEFORE SERVING NOW AND THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE FUTURE, THANK YOU, GREG, AN AVIS.

UH, YOU HAVE LEFT AUSTIN BETTER THAN YOU FOUND IT, AND THAT IS THE HIGHEST PRAISE THAT I CAN OFFER.

THANK YOU, CHAIR COZY, THE THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF CUMULATIVE WORK THIS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU CHAIR AZI.

THAT WAS GREAT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS EVE AZAR.

AND LET ME ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS, HANEY AND LAN JOINING US AND COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.

HELLO.

OKAY, EVERYBODY, SO, UH, CHAIR ZA, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO US SUSPENDING OUR RULES SO THE CHAIR CAN HAVE A PROPER

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GOODBYE? SEEING NONE.

OKAY, SO CTM, IF YOU WOULD, LET'S SUSPEND OUR RULES FOR THE TIMER FROM THE DAUS AND FROM CHAIR IS ARTIST IS VERY WELL, THANK YOU.

CHAIR ANDERSON, COMMISSIONERS VICE CHAIR WOODS, NOT CHAIR ANYMORE.

AND, AND KIND OF GLAD ABOUT IT.

SO I'LL SAY THAT.

UM, I JUST WANNA, HONESTLY JUST WANTED TO COME AND SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU AND ALL OF OUR STAFF AND SO MANY DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE AND JOY OF WORKING WITH, INCLUDING EVERYBODY ON THIS ICE.

AND ALMOST EVERYONE SITTING BACK HERE, I'LL, YOU KNOW, WRAPPED UP SIX YEARS OF SERVICE AND I WAS TRYING TO THINK THROUGH HOW MANY COMMISSIONERS I SERVED WITH, AND I LOST COUNT AFTER 30 COMMISSIONERS.

SO, HAVING SAID THAT, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF LEARNING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING AZI AND SO MANY OTHER FOLKS WHO WERE ALWAYS THERE.

AND WHETHER FOLKS AGREED WITH ME OR DISAGREED WITH ME, THERE WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING TO LEARN FROM FOLKS.

AND I THINK THAT HAS LEFT A MARK ON ME, JUST IN THE WAY I LIVE MY LIFE, THE WAY I DO MY WORK.

OF COURSE, I HAVE TO THANK THE FOLKS WHO APPOINTED ME, SO BOTH MAYOR ADLER AND MAYOR WATSON FOR CONTINUING THAT AND GIVING ME THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE SERVING IN THAT SEAT.

AND EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I ENDED AS CHAIR, I HAD TAKEN DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND AGAIN, GOT TO WORK IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WITH THE COMMISSION, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COUNT.

BUT I GOT TO MEET HUNDREDS OF NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND FOLKS.

AND THIS WAS DURING THE, ANYTHING FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO SEPARATE CASES.

I GOT TO KNOW SO MANY NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM CHAIRS AND SO MANY FOLKS WHO HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, WERE KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE ME THE TIME TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THEIR COMMUNITIES, TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY SAW AS THE FUTURE OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY CRITICAL.

AND TO ALL OF THOSE FOLKS, I'M THANKFUL I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT THANK OUR STAFF.

I, I WILL ASK PEOPLE TO CLAP FOR OUR STAFF, JUST, AND I WILL SAY I STARTED WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTOR GREY AND THEN SO MANY OTHER FOLKS SINCE, BUT DEFINITELY MS. HARDEN, YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND THE CURRENT DIRECTOR, MIDDLETON, BRAD, JUST HONESTLY, AND IT'S NOT JUST OUR PLANNING STAFF, BUT OUR DST STAFF, OUR HOUSING STAFF, OUR LEGAL STAFF, CLERK'S OFFICE.

I WILL FOREVER BE THANKFUL FOR THESE FOLKS WHO NOT ONLY ENABLED ME TO DO WHAT I NEEDED TO DO ON THAT SIDE OF THE DICE, BUT TODAY CONTINUE TO ENABLE ME TO DO WHAT I'M DOING ON THIS SIDE OF THE DICE, WHICH IS PARTICIPATE IN OUR DEMOCRACY.

AND HONESTLY, JUST THAT IN ITSELF IS SUCH A CRITICAL THING.

AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO ENABLES THAT.

I'LL JUST TRY TO KEEP MY COMMENTS SHORT, BUT I'LL JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ASPECT OF SERVICE THAT COMES WITH THIS.

YOU KNOW, I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE ON THE DICE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BROTHERHOOD SLASH SISTERHOOD THAT YOU HAVE SERVING ON THE COMMISSION.

YOU'VE ALL SEEN ME THROUGH MY WORST.

YOU'VE ALL SEEN ME THROUGH MY BEST.

YOU'VE SEEN ME GRUMPY, CRANKY, HANGRY.

UM, YOU'VE ALSO SEEN ME DO THINGS THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT AND TALK ABOUT IT.

SO I THINK JUST ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT ONE THING THAT I WOULD IMPART TO THIS IS YOUR VIEW FROM THAT SIDE OF THE DA IS DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE, AND IT IS GONNA LEAVE A MARK ON YOU.

AND THE PEOPLE NEXT TO YOU ARE THE FOLKS WHO ARE GONNA REMEMBER WHAT IT'S LIKE AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE IT WITH THEM FOREVER.

WHEN I GO HOME OR USED TO GO HOME, MY HUSBAND WAS LIKE, AH, YOU'RE BACK.

AND THAT WAS ABOUT IT, RIGHT? BUT WHAT THE PEERS SITTING NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, AND HOW MUCH YOU ALL COLLECTIVELY CARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY, REALLY MEANINGFUL.

WORKING WITH JUST NEIGHBORHOODS AND APPLICANTS AND ADVOCATES.

I HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW SO MANY AMAZING PEOPLE WORKING IN THIS CITY ON DEVELOPMENT, ON LAND USE, ON SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

EVERYONE WHO IS COMMITTED TO OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITY, AND OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THE WAY WE FUNCTION.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

ONE TINY THING I'LL JUST SAY IS A REMINDER TO YOU ALL THAT THERE IS A AMOUNT OF TRUST THAT YOUR APPOINTEES HAVE PUT IN YOU TO BE ABLE TO SERVE IN THESE POSITIONS.

I WOULD ALSO SAY THERE'S A TRUST THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS PUT IN YOU ALL.

AND AT ONE POINT HAD PUT IN ME BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE NAVIGATING IS NOT JUST, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS, UH, FA HAS MENTIONED, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF VOTING.

IT'S ABOUT SHAPING THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

WHAT DOES THAT ASPIRATION, VISION OF A FUTURE AUSTIN LOOKS LIKE, AND THE GRAVITY OF THAT.

I KNOW I'M, YOU KNOW, PREACHING TO THE CAR AND YOU ALL KNOW THIS, BUT IT'S NOT LOST IN ME THAT, THAT TRUST THAT OUR COMMUNITY PUTS IN US TO GUIDE US THROUGH THIS IS REALLY HARD AND IMPORTANT.

AND THERE'S A GRAVITY TO IT THAT SHOULD LIVE WITH YOU THROUGH EVERY DECISION THAT YOU'RE MAKING.

I'M NOT GONNA PRETEND THAT ALL THE DECISIONS I MADE WERE RIGHT, BUT IN THE MOMENT I WAS SURE OF WHAT I WAS VOTING ON BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I HAD AND UNDERSTANDING

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I HAD.

AND I THINK JUST TAKING THAT WITH YOU AND DOING WHAT YOU CAN TO MOVE US COLLECTIVELY FORWARD IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO AGAIN, I'LL JUST STOP THERE AND JUST SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF, THANK YOU OF COURSE, TO MAYOR WATSON FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY AND, AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

WELL, DON'T RUN AWAY TOO FAR.

COMMISSIONERS.

DOES ANYONE CARE TO SAY ANYTHING? CHAIR, I'D LOVE TO START VICE CHAIR WOODS.

CHAIR ZA OF ACE.

THERE IS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT YOU AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, BUT ALSO JUST AS A PERSON.

IT HAS BEEN SUCH A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ALONGSIDE YOU ON THIS COMMISSION.

I LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE COMMISSION, AND THEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, GETTING TO BE YOUR VICE CHAIR AND WORK TOGETHER IN THAT CAPACITY HAS BEEN SO INSPIRING AND INSTRUCTIVE FOR ME.

I THINK EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CITY PROCESSES BETTER THAN ANYONE, AND THAT IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION.

YOUR ABILITY TO RUN A MEETING WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY KEEPING TRACK OF COMPLEX LAYERED AMENDMENTS AND STILL MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE FEELS HEARD AND PROCESSES ARE FOLLOWED CORRECTLY IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE.

BUT EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO YOUR INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERTISE IS THE LEADERSHIP, KINDNESS AND EMPATHY YOU SHOW TO EVERYONE YOU ENGAGE WITH FROM YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO CITY STAFF, TO SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

YOU HAVE AN OPEN MIND AND A GENUINE RESPECT FOR EVERYONE.

AND I HAVE REALLY BEEN INSPIRED BY THIS IN YOU AND TRIED TO MODEL THE SAME ATTITUDE AND OPENNESS IN MYSELF.

I'M VERY COMFORTED TO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU WON'T BE SERVING AS CHAIR, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR GUIDANCE ON THIS COMMISSION.

I HOPE WE WILL SEE YOU HERE OFTEN AS AN ADVOCATE AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

I HAVE PERSONALLY LEARNED AND BENEFITED SO MUCH FROM KNOWING YOU AND SERVING ALONGSIDE YOU, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AUSTIN IS A MORE EQUITABLE, SAFE, AFFORDABLE, AND MULTIMODAL PLACE BECAUSE OF YOUR WORK ON THIS COMMISSION.

AND AS AN ADVOCATE, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE COULD NEVER TRULY DESERVE ALL THAT YOU GIVE TO THIS CITY, BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WORK TO IMPROVE AUSTIN.

NONETHELESS.

COMMISSIONER POWELL CHAIRS ARE, I JUST WANT TO VERY BRIEFLY THANK YOU FOR HOW MUCH I'VE LEARNED FROM YOU HONESTLY, TO, TO REGARD MYSELF AS A MENTEE OF YOUR UNBELIEVABLE WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE, ALL THAT YOU'VE TAUGHT ME AND, AND FRANKLY EMPOWERED ME AND SO MANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THE CITY.

I WOULDN'T BE SITTING UP HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR OUR CONNECTION ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.

AND SO PAST THE MENTORSHIP, I'M JUST PROUD TO CALL YOU A FRIEND AND, UH, I'M GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, AVES, I HAVEN'T KNOWN YOU FOR VERY LONG, BUT IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT MENTOR AND I'VE, UH, REACHED OUT TO YOU ON, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, UH, I, I FELT ESPECIALLY THE FIRST COUPLE MONTHS HERE, UH, VERY MUCH OVER MY HEAD AND BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT TO YOU AND ASK YOU TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE CASES, UH, HAS BEEN A REAL BLESSING FOR ME AND HELPED ME, UM, KIND OF GROW INTO MY ROLE AS WELL.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING OUT THE TIME NOT ONLY TO HELP OUT THOSE THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH FOR A WHILE, BUT ALSO NEW COMMISSIONERS LIKE MYSELF THAT HAVE JOINED RECENTLY.

OF OUR AMAZING DOCTORS WHO'S PUBLISHED EVERYWHERE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS WAS SITTING NEXT TO ME AND I WAS LIKE, AREN'T WE JUST SO PROUD OF A VEST? AND JUST EVERYTHING HE'S DOING, JUST EVERYTHING HE'S KNOCKING OUT.

I WILL.

PARDON ME, CHAIR COHEN.

I DON'T HAVE A FANCY SPEECH WRITTEN, BUT I WANTED TO SAY SOME OF MY FONDEST MEMORIES WHEN I FIRST TOOK OVER AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WERE WITH YOU IN A DINER WHILE YOU TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS MADNESS TO ME.

AND IS IT JUST ME OR DO THE CHAIRS ALWAYS LOOK HAPPIER AFTER THEY STEP DOWN? I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SMILE THIS MUCH IN MONTHS, MONTHS.

YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST GRACIOUS AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE I HAVE EVER WORKED WITH.

AND I THINK YOUR IMPRINT ON THIS CITY IS GONNA LAST FOR DECADES AND IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU AND YOU'RE NOT GETTING RID OF ME THAT EASY.

I AM GOING TO FIND YOU AFTER THIS AND I'M GONNA FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN KEEP WORKING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING OF US.

THANKS EVERYBODY.

SO, UH, I WILL POSSIBLY WRAP THIS UP WITH, UH, THERE WAS AN EVENT NOT TOO LONG AGO AND ONE

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AND SHE'S LIKE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? HE'S NOT KNOCKING OUT WHAT HE HAS TO DO FOR HIMSELF, HIS DISSERTATION 'CAUSE HE IS WORRIED ABOUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HE'S WORRIED ABOUT THIS AND HE'S RUNNING HOUSING WORKS AND HE'S DOING ALL THESE THINGS.

I'M JUST LIKE, WOW.

AND SO WE HAD TO GET HIS MOM INVOLVED, WE HAD TO GET KEITH INVOLVED, WE HAD TO GET ALL THESE PEOPLE INVOLVED FOR HIM TO FINALLY KNOCK THIS THING OUT.

SO WE ARE EXCITED FOR YOU TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR YOURSELF, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR AUSTIN, AND WE'RE NOT LETTING YOU GO ANYTIME SOON.

SO THANK YOU.

THANKS.

AND OKAY, I HEAR THAT FELICITY, I'D LIKE TO JUMP IN FELICITY, MISS, UH, COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.

YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I'M SO SAD NOT TO BE THERE TODAY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE BY SAYING THAT I THINK THAT EVERYONE HAS REALLY BROUGHT TOGETHER THE WORDS THAT WE THINK OF WHEN WE THINK OF SOMEONE LIKE AZAR LEADERSHIP, UH, FELLOWSHIP MENTORSHIP.

AND I THINK THE THING I ALSO WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND IS THERE WAS NEVER A DUMB QUESTION WHEN IT CAME TO CHIZAR.

AND THAT IS WHY WE ALL LOVE HIM SO MUCH BECAUSE HE'S THE KIND OF COMMUNITY LEADER WE ALL LIKE TO WORK WITH.

THE, THE PERSON WE LOOK UP TO, THE PERSON WE KNOW WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT OUR CITY.

SO THANK YOU CHIZAR FOR BEING SUCH A LEADER, SUCH A MENTOR, SUCH A GOOD FRIEND TO ALL OF US.

GOOD.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE MANY YEARS OF SERVICE.

MAY WE ALL GIVE AS MUCH TO OUR CITY AS YOU HAVE GIVEN TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

IT WAS ALLUDED TO, AND IT WAS CORRECT AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS MY LAST MEETING, BUT I AM NOT FOLLOWING THAT.

SO I I, I DO BELIEVE THAT I HAVE A HOLDOVER MEETING THE NEXT MEETING WHERE I WILL HAPPILY NOT BE CHAIR ANYMORE AND PROBABLY BE A LOT HAPPIER.

SO THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT AS WELL.

WE'LL NOW VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS THAT ARE CONSENT APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL, POSTPONEMENTS OF PUBLIC HEARINGS OR NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. UH, VICE CHAIR WOODS, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE PROPOSED CONSENT AGENDA? YES.

COMMISSIONER ZA AND COMMISSIONER AZI.

ALRIGHT EVERYBODY, SO

[Consent Agenda]

KNUCKLES CROSSING DISTRICT TWO.

CHAIR ITEM TWO IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2025 DASH 8 1 2 4 6 ROSEWOOD AVENUE, DISTRICT ONE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM THREE IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2025 DASH 0 4 9 1 1 6 9 HARGRAVE STREET DISTRICT ONE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM FOUR IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2023 DASH 0 4 0 4 4 3 0 2.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 28.

ITEM FIVE IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2025 HARRIS RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT NINE.

THIS ITEM FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 20.

ITEM SIX IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2025 DASH 0 29 AIRPORT, 38 REZONE DISTRICT ONE.

ITEM SEVEN IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2025 DASH 0 7 2.

SIR SWAN PALM NEIGHBORHOOD PARK REZONING DISTRICT NINE, THE SIGN IS UP FOR CONSENT.

ITEM EIGHT IS A HISTORIC ZONING, C 14 H DASH 2025 DASH 77 PALM PARK SHELTER HOUSE DISTRICT NINE.

ITEM NINE IS A HISTORIC ZONING, C 14 H DASH 2025 DASH 0 0 2 2 STEADMAN GRAVES HOUSE DISTRICT NINE.

ITEM 10 IS A SITE PLAN EXTENSION SP DASH 2 0 1 8 DASH 0 4 9 5 CXT TWO DOMAIN TOWER TWO DISTRICT SEVEN.

ITEM 11 IS A SITE PLAN EX EXTENSION SP 2019 DASH 0 0 2 5 CXT TWO DOMAIN TOWER FOUR DISTRICT SEVEN.

ITEM 12 IS A SITE PLAN EXTENSION SP 2014 DASH 0 71 XT FOUR, ALL SAINTS PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH DISTRICT EIGHT.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT AND ITEM 13 IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT S PC DASH 2025 DASH 0 1 9 0 A 1700 SOUTH CONGRESS DISTRICT NINE.

WITHOUT OBJECTION, THAT PASSES.

VICE CHAIR.

DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANNA PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION OR OTHERWISE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVE? PARDON? YES.

CHAIR ANDERSON.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

WE HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY.

STARTING WITH NUMBER SIX, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT VICTORIA HASSI VICTORIA, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

SHE'S WAIVING HER TIME TO SPEAK.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RON THROWER.

RON, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HE'S WAIVING IS TIME TO SPEAK.

WE'LL NOW BE MOVING TO THOSE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.

OUR PRIMARY SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS GUS NIELSEN.

GUSS WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

GUS, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

MOVING FORWARD TO ITEM SEVEN.

IF MR. NIELSEN JOINS OUR QUEUE, WE'LL BE SURE TO CIRCLE BACK TO HIM.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

OUR, UM, WE'LL FIRST BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT

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PAUL BOOKS.

PAUL, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

MOVING FORWARD TO ITEM EIGHT.

AGAIN, OUR APP WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT, PAUL BOOKS.

MOVING FORWARD TO ITEM 10, THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT.

MICHELLE HOUSEMAN.

MICHELLE, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

TWO AVES ARE RIGHT TO SPEAK.

MICHELLE WILL ALSO BE THE SPEAKER FOR ITEM 11.

ALSO WAIVING MOVING FORWARD TO ITEM 12.

THIS ITEM IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT TAMARIA DAVIS.

SHE'S WAIVING WE'LL NEXT BE HEARING FROM, UH, LEAH BOJO.

LEAH WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

LEAH, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY, MS. BOJO IS NOT IN OUR QUEUE.

AGAIN, IF, SHOULD WE SEE OR JOIN, WE'LL, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK.

MOVING FORWARD TO ITEM 13.

THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE'LL BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT RICHARD SUTTLE.

RICHARD, YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

YOU WAIVED HIS RIGHT TO SPEAK CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU MS. GARCIA.

IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING CHAIR? A MOTION COMMISSIONER POWELL MOTIONS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BEDDA RAMIREZ.

ALL RIGHT.

CONSTRUCTED IN APPROXIMATELY 1939.

THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY, MOVING

[Items 2 and 3]

ON.

ITEM TWO.

UM, FIRST OF WE'LL START WITH A STAFF.

ITEMS TWO AND THREE ITEMS. WE'LL START WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION, MARINE MEREDITH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS NPA, UH, 20 25 0 0 0 8 0.01.

24 0 6 ROSEWOOD AVENUE WITHIN DISTRICT ONE.

PROPERTY ADDRESSES ARE 24 0 6 ROSEWOOD AVENUE, 24 0 7 AND A HALF.

SO WILSON AVENUE 1159 AND A HALF, AND 1169 HARGRAVE STREET.

IT IS WITHIN THE ROSEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MET FROM CIVIC TO MIXED USE LAND USE, AND IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF JONATHAN TOMKO WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2025 DASH 0 0 49.

IT IS A REZONING REQUEST OF 11 59 1 HALF AND 1169 HARGROVE STREET, HARGRAVE STREET, I'M SORRY, UH, AND 24 0 7 AND ONE HALF.

SO WILSON AVENUE FROM SF THREE NP TO C-S-M-U-C-O-N-P STAFF RECOMMENDS GRANTING CSMU.

THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WOULD LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE OR A PORTION OF A BUILDING OF OR STRUCTURE TO NO MORE THAN 40 FEET ABOVE GROUND LEVEL.

THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WOULD ALSO PROHIBIT 27 USES LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND CONDITIONALLY ALLOW THE TWO USES LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

THE SUBJECT TRACT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.62 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY HOME TO THE FORMER ROSEWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING ARE LIKELY ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

THUS, ANY DEMO ADDITIONS OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS INVOLVING REMOVAL OF HISTORIC MATERIALS WOULD NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TO THE NORTH ACROSS SEOUL, WILSON AVENUE AND HARGROVE GRAVE STREET ARE THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ONE SMALL CHURCH TO THE EAST ACROSS BEDFORD STREET ARE TWO THREE STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED AS WELL AS UNDEVELOPED LAND.

AND TO THE SOUTH ACROSS, UH, ROSEWOOD AVENUE IS BOOKER T WASHINGTON TERRACE, A HAKA PROPERTY WITH APPROXIMATELY 216 TWO STORY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING UNITS AND TO THE WEST ACROSS HARGRAVE STREET IS THE MILLENNIUM YOUTH ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX, WHICH IS AN APPROXIMATELY 55,000 SQUARE FOOT INDOOR SPORTS AND RECREATION FACILITY CONSTRUCTED IN 1999 BY THE CITY.

THE LOCATION IS APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND FEET SOUTHEAST OF THE MLK JUNIOR TOD IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CENTER AND APPROXIMATELY 1300 FEET NORTHWEST OF THE SPRINGDALE STATION.

IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CENTER, ROSEWOOD AVENUE IS PART OF THE A SMP TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK.

AND THE BOGGY CREEK GREEN BELT TRAIL IS APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET WEST OF THIS SITE, JUST WEST OF THE MILLENNIUM YOUTH ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX.

THERE IS ALSO A TRANSIT STOP FOR CAP METRO'S ROUTE TWO AND, UH, ROUTE 4 85.

APPROXIMATE TO THIS SITE.

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. TOMKO.

UH, MS. GARCIA, WILL YOU MIND MCING THE PUBLIC HEARING ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, AND ANNOUNCE OF SPEAKERS AND WHEN THEIR SPEAKER TIME HAS ENDED? YES, CHAIR.

CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

WE'LL FIRST BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT RICHARD SU.

RICHARD, YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES

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MY NAME'S RICHARD SU ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

UM, FIRST I WANNA TURN OFF MY PHONE.

UM, FIRST I WANNA THANK, WE'VE HAD RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE HAVEN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT AT ALL, BUT WE'RE HAVING GOOD CONVERSATIONS.

UM, THIS IS A CASE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN NEXT.

DO I HAVE THE CLICKER OR DOES SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE IT? THERE'S A SITE.

IT'S, IT'S THE ROSEWOOD SCHOOL THERE.

IT, UH, MY CLIENT WANTS TO DO AN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.

UM, AND THAT, THAT'S A GIVEN.

IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT SOME DRIVEWAYS, IT'S GOT SOME PARKING.

UM, OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, HAVE RIGHTFULLY SO REVOLVED AROUND WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEBODY ELSE, OTHER THAN MY CLIENT GETS AHOLD OF THIS THING, IT'S OWN CSMU AND THAT PERSON DOESN'T WANT TO USE THE SCHOOL BUILDING.

I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR MY CLIENT FULLY INTENDS TO HAVE AN ADAPTIVE REUSE OF, OF THE EXISTING SCHOOL BUILDING AND MAYBE ADD SOME OTHER SMALLER THINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, RIGHTFULLY SO, UM, HAVE HAD SOME ZONING CASES NOT GO THEIR WAY AND, AND THEY'VE NOT TURNED OUT VERY NICE.

AND THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEBODY BUILDING A HUGE BUILDING ON THIS TRACK, SHOULD MY CLIENT NOT DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING? SO WE'RE, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET TO DO SOME ASSURANCES TO WHERE IF THIS BODY AND THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS THE CSMU IS, IS A GOOD USE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN CAN ASSURE THE NEIGHBORS THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET A HUGE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR HOUSES.

NOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, CAN I GO TO THE NEXT ONE PLEASE? YOU CAN SEE OVER THERE IN THAT THE, THE BLUE IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO REZONE THE PINK C-S-M-U-C-O-N-P BELOW IT.

THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE SITE.

AND ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THIS ENTIRE SITE ZONED THE EXACT SAME WAY.

SO WE'RE KEEPING THE SAME COS EXCEPT FOR I THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR, BE ABLE TO HAVE CUSTOM MANUFACTURING ON OURS.

BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A JEWELRY STORE OR A JEWELRY MAKER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE BUILDING.

BUT THE ZONING LINE GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE BUILDING.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN FOOTPRINT ZONE IT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THE ENTIRE THING ZONED, CONSISTENTLY REUSE THE BUILDING.

UM, POTENTIALLY DO SOME RESIDENTIAL ALONG BEDFORD UNDER THE MU AND BEDFORD IS THE, THE ROAD THAT IS GOING UP AND DOWN AND THEN ALONG.

SO SOL WILSON LEAVE THE EXISTING FACILITIES THERE, WHICH CONSISTS OF A SURFACE PARKING LOT IN THE EXISTING SCHOOL.

THOSE ARE THE SITES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO SINGLE FAMILY.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT CSMU ALL ALL AROUND US AND WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS, UH, TOO MUCH OF A STRETCH TO ASK CSMU ON THIS SITE.

I THINK AT THIS POINT YOU ARE WE THE ONLY CASE TONIGHT? OR SHOULD I JUST KEEP ON TALKING? I WAS GONNA SAY, I'LL STOP HERE AND WAIT FOR QUESTIONS AND, AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME NEIGHBORS HERE THAT WANNA BE HEARD AS WELL.

WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END.

THEMSELVES TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, OUR CITY STAFF AND TO YOU, UH, WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE.

OKAY, WELL I'LL CONCLUDE.

WE'LL NOW BE HEARING FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD, WE HAD A FEW SPEAKERS THAT SIGNED UP VIRTUALLY, BUT WE WERE UNFORTUNATELY UNABLE TO CONNECT WITH THEM.

I'M STILL GONNA CALL THEIR NAMES IN CASE THOSE FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN PERSON, BUT I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD.

BUT STARTING WITH OUR PRIMARY SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION, WE'LL BE HEARING FROM CHRISTOPHER PAGE.

CHRISTOPHER, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

UM, SO I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO AGREE.

UM, WE HAVE HAD HEALTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, AND WE INTEND TO CONTINUE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, INCLUDING OUR, UM, OUR DISTRICT ONE OFFICE AND THEIR STAFF, UM, AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE, UH, UH, NEIGHBORS THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS CHANGE IN LAND USE, UH, TO TRY TO ARRIVE AT THE MOST BALANCED AND, UH, WORKABLE OUTCOME.

SO I'M WIND HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PURSUES, UH, WHAT MARKETS DISBELIEVE, WHICH IS HIGH QUALITY LIVING CONDITIONS ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND INCOME LEVELS WERE FULLY ALIGNED WITH THE INTENT OF THE ROSEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WITH THE WISDOM OF ITS AUTHORS, WHICH HAS ONLY ESCALATED SINCE THE ADOPTION INTO THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ROSEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACHIEVEMENT AND DESERVES RECOGNITION.

AS SUCH, IN RECENT YEARS, APPLICANTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY MISREPRESENTED

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UH, MOST RECENTLY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON 12TH STREET AT SPACE 12 WHERE THERE WAS, UH, A HUGE REZONING KIND OF BROKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY IS A GRAFFITI COVERED BUILDING WITH PILOT TIRES BEHIND IT.

OUR RESIDENTS HAVE SUFFERED FROM THIS.

WE'VE SEEN BUSINESSES PURCHASED AND SHUTTERED AND THEN ACTUALLY TURNED INTO PRIVATE PARKING LOTS.

WE'VE SEEN DAYCARE CENTERS PURCHASED AND SHUTTERED AND RANDOMLY USED AS EVENT SPACES THAT RATTLE NEIGHBORS WINDOWS AS THEY TRY TO PUT THEIR KIDS TO BED.

WE'VE SEEN FAMILIES EVICTED FROM THEIR HOME SO THAT IT COULD BE CONVERTED INTO AN UNREGISTERED SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNTIL GUN VIOLENCE TOOK A YOUNG MAN'S LIFE THERE IN FRONT OF NEIGHBORS.

ALL THIS TO SAY WE'RE JUSTIFIABLY SKEPTICAL OF PITCHES AND DOING OUR BEST NOT TO PROJECT THAT ONTO THIS APPLICANT ACCOUNT.

UH, MR. SU REPRESENTS A PROSPECTIVE BUYER OF A HISTORIC SCHOOL PROPERTY WITH SPLIT ZONING IN THE PRESENCE OF HIS CLIENT.

ON ON, UH, JUNE 17TH, 2025, MR. SUTTLE ASSURED RESIDENCE OF HIS CLIENT'S INTENT TO CREATIVE, UH, CREATIVELY REPURPOSE 40 A 43,000 SQUARE FOOT SCHOOL BUILDING ADD ON A DA RETROFITS AND POTENTIALLY ADD TOWN HOME SCALE RESIDENTIAL.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAILOR THAT IN A GOOD WAY FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN NO DEVIATION IN THOSE REPRESENTATION OVER MULTIPLE STRINGS OF SUBSEQUENT COMMUNICATION.

THE STRUCTURE, UH, WAS HOME TO THE ORIGINAL ROSEWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1930S AND ASSOCIATED WITH SEVERAL INFL INFLUENTIAL BLACK EDUCATORS.

IT'S BEEN WELL MAINTAINED AND WAS OPERATED AS A CHARTER SCHOOL THROUGH JUNE OF THIS YEAR.

THE PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS HAD MINIMAL IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

FAMILIES WITH MULTI-GENERATIONAL TIES TO THE AREA HAVE EXPRESSED A STRONG INTEREST IN HONORING THE HISTORY AND THE MISSION OF FR RICE FOR WHOM THE BUILDING IS NAMED.

12 DAYS AGO, 22 RESIDENTS ATTENDED AN IN-PERSON MEETING AND AFTER THOROUGH DISCUSSION UNANIMOUSLY OPPOSED THE REZONING.

ALTHOUGH WE ARE STILL VERY OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS.

SUBSEQUENT DIGITAL OUTREACH WAS CONDUCTED FOR NEIGHBORS THAT COULD NOT ATTEND IN PERSON.

UM, SO REALLY THIS CASE IS ABOUT THE NORTHERN HALF, WHICH IS A 1.62 ACRE SF THREE ZONE TRACK THAT ABUTS A SMP LEVEL ONE ROADS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THOSE ROADS ARE NOT FOR REALLY HIGH DENSITY, HIGH DENSITY CONSTRUCTION.

UM, EIGHT DAYS AGO, OUR LOCAL REGULATORY LANDSCAPE CHANGED DUE TO THE PASSAGE OF SB EIGHT 40.

STATE LAW ELIMINATES LOCAL CONTROL OVER SPECIFIC ELEMENTS OF COMMERCIAL ZONING, INCLUDING WHAT THE, UH, THE ZONING THAT THE APPLICANT NOW SEEKS ON AN SF THREE ZONE PROPERTY.

THE EFFECTS OF SB EIGHT 40 ARE NOT EXPLAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ALREADY PROPONENTS OF THE BILL ARE THREATENING TO SUE CITIES WHICH PREVENTS CLARITY.

MEMBERS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL HAVE OPENLY DREADED SB EIGHT 40 IMPACT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION THROUGH DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS, WHICH HAVE BEEN THE PRIMARY GENERATOR OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UH, AFTER THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION OF GREATER AUSTIN, THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS AND THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF BUILDERS SECURED A BAN ON INCLUSIONARY ZONING IN 2005 VIA HB 2266.

OUR GOALS ARE FRANKLY, VERY PRACTICAL.

WE'VE LAID THEM OUT, UH, WITH MR. SUBTLE.

WE WANT, UH, TO RESTRICT SOME COMMERCIAL USES SO THAT IT'S NOT TERRIBLY INTRUSIVE TO, FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ADJACENT.

UH, WE WANT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, PARKING, MITIGATION, AND NO CURB CUTS ON AS SMP LEVEL ONE ROADS VERY PRACTICAL.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A BUFFER IF IT GOES TO SF FIVE FOR THE TOWN HOMES THAT THEY HAVE, UH, ASKED FOR.

IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

UH, IT WOULD TEMPER SOME OF THE SCALE.

IT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.

IT WOULD GUARANTEE THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY HOUSING ON SITE WHICH C-S-M-U-C-O-N-P DOES NOT.

UM, AND IT WOULD ALIGN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

WE'VE ALSO ENCOURAGED THE DASH H FOR THE HISTORICAL ZONING TO RESPECT THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE, WHICH WAS FRANKLY A LUMINARY SCHOOL THAT OPERATED DURING SEGREGATION.

AND, UM, WE INTEND TO HAVE AS MANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS OR, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS AS WE CAN WITH THE APPLICANT.

WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS A BALANCED OUTCOME AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS SITE TURN INTO A SHUTTERED BUILDING, WHICH WE HAVE SEEN SO MUCH OF IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, WE'RE ALIGNED ON THAT.

WE'RE HAVING HEALTHY CONVERSATIONS.

UM, IF YOU CAN TEMPER THIS IN A HEALTHY WAY OR COME UP WITH OR OFFER CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS COLLEEN GARCIA.

COLLEEN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TYLER HIGGINS.

TYLER, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, TAYLOR.

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MY APOLOGIES.

HELLO.

UM, MY NAME'S TAYLOR AND YEAH, THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING US HERE TODAY.

THIS IS MY FIRST, UM, ATTEMPT AT SPEAKING TO A PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO, UM, BUT YEAH, MY NAME'S TAYLOR.

I WORK AS A DATA ENGINEER FOR A CLIMATE NGO.

UM, WE CAN BE BASED ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

I WAS ACTUALLY HIRED WHEN I WAS FINISHING MY, UM, MASTER'S DEGREE IN ITALY.

UM, AND I CHOSE TO MOVE TO AUSTIN, TEXAS.

MY SISTER, UM, HAD BEEN LIVING HERE, UH, FOR GRAD SCHOOL.

UM, BUT I GREW UP OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY AND I LIVED THERE MOST OF MY, UM, ADULT LIFE.

I'VE DEFINITELY FOUND A HOME HERE, ESPECIALLY IN ONCE MOVING TO, UM, THE ROSEWOOD AREA IN ON SOL WILSON.

THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED MULTI-GENERATIONS, LIKE OUR PRESIDENT JUST MENTIONED, UM, AND YET IS SO WELCOMING.

UM, I LIVED IN SOME PLACES THAT HAD, UM, FACED SOME GENTRIFICATION AND BIG CHANGES QUICKLY IN NEW YORK CITY AND THE, THE WELCOME WASN'T THE SAME FOR JUSTIFIABLE REASONS.

UM, BUT YEAH, I JUST CAN'T, UM, STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT AND DELICATE, UM, I'D IMAGINE THIS COMMUNITY IS.

UM, AUSTIN IS CHANGING SO MUCH.

I HEAR PEOPLE WANTING TO LEAVE UNFORTUNATELY, OFTEN BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES.

UM, SO YEAH, I JUST SEE THIS AS A REALLY KEY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, MAKE SURE WE ALL, UM, CAN FIND A SOLUTION FOR THIS SCHOOL WHERE, WHERE, YEAH, WE CAN USE IT AND, UM, AND IT, WE ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO BE AN ASSET TO, TO THE CITY AND KEEP AUSTIN STRONG.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOSHUA COLLIER.

JOSHUA, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

I, HELLO.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, UH, MY NAME'S JOSHUA COLLIER.

I WAS BORN IN AUSTIN, GREW UP IN THE AREA, A GREAT GRANDFATHER.

UM, UH, HIS BROTHER ACTUALLY LIVED AT CHALMERS, UM, COURTS AND THEN A GRANDFATHER WAS A PRINCIPAL AT A DIFFERENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS ZAVALA ELEMENTARY ON ROBERT T. MARTINEZ.

SO LONGTIME ROOTS HERE, AND I ALSO LIVE ON SAUL WILSON.

AND SO I'M SPEAKING TODAY IN OPPOSITION.

UM, WE WANT THE EXISTING BUILDING TO TO BE RETAINED AND DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC.

UM, WE WANT THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO REMAIN IN PLACE AND WE, UH, WOULD PREFER THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT HAVE A SPACE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN USE AND IS INCLUSIVE AND LOOK TO YOU FOR IDEAS AND COLLABORATION WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

ON, UM, ON THAT, UM, IN THE MOVING TRIBUTE TO YOUR COLLEAGUE EARLIER, THE, THE WORD EQUITY CAME UP, WHICH I THINK IS RELEVANT IN THE SITUATION.

MANY PEOPLE THINK EAST AUSTIN IS LONG GONE.

UM, THAT IT'S ALL BEEN GENTRIFIED, RIGHT? AND HERE WE HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE A DEVELOPER COMES IN.

SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, WENT TO, UH, MR. AUBREY WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT PROBABLY DUE TO HEALTH CONDITIONS.

UM, HE WENT TO, UM, SCHOOL ON THE EAST SIDE DURING SEGREGATION.

HIS FATHER-IN-LAW GOT HIS HOUSE THROUGH THE GI BILL AND HE'S STILL LIVING THERE WITH HIS FAMILY, AN EXTENDED FAMILY.

THERE'S MULTIPLE EXTENDED FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED ON THAT STREET FOR MANY YEARS, UM, ON SURROUNDING THIS SITE.

SO, UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT DUE TO CURRENT LOSS OF FEDERAL RESOURCES, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CRISES LOOMING.

UM, AND I WOULD SAY HEALTH, BUT IF YOU TAKE HEALTH IN A BROADER SENSE, UM, WE KNOW THAT THE STRATEGY AROUND HOUSING FIRST IS A DATA-DRIVEN STRATEGY FOR HEALTH IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO PROVIDING SOLUTIONS FOR THAT ARE MOST WELCOME.

UM, AND AS A REMINDER, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT REQUIRE ATTENTION TO THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROFIT EARNED THAT SENDS RESOURCES OUTSIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND DOES NOT PROVIDE USEFUL RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITY IS A WASTE OF AN OPPORTUNITY, I HOPE.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CARRY WITH YOU, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR COLLEAGUE WHO YOU SPOKE SO KINDLY OF, UM, DOES ON THE DAILY.

UM, SO IDEAS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN THAT MEETING WHERE AGAIN, IT WAS A UNANIMOUS OPPOSITION WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, PRESERVING THIS, BUILDING A SPACE FOR COWORKING, FOR EXAMPLE, SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING THAT SPACE.

UM, I KNOW FROM USING THE CARVER LIBRARY, THEY JUST CHANGED THEIR KIND OF MEETING ROOMS TO, UM, A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU RESERVE THEM.

AND THAT'S THE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE LAST ROOM IN A LIBRARY IN AUSTIN THAT WAS OPEN.

SO THAT COULD BE A GOOD RESOURCE.

THAT'S AN IDEA.

UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IT'S MY TIMER.

I JUST HAVE 10 SECONDS AND I'LL JUST SAY, UM, THANK YOU AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER CONVERSATION.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS

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KIM BARKER.

KIM, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I SPOKE AT THIS MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO AND DON'T WISH TO BE REPETITIVE, EXCEPT FOR TO SAY THAT I'M STILL WILDLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DEVELOPER'S PLAN TO RETAIN AND ADAPTIVELY REUSE THE HISTORIC ROSEWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND STILL OPPOSE TO THE REZONING APPLICATION.

UM, IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I'VE TALKED WITH APPROXIMATELY 30 NEIGHBORS WHO, UM, AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY ARE UNANIMOUS IN OUR OPPOSITION.

I'M GOING TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION WITH YOU TODAY AS TO WHY THE REZONING OF THE LAND ALONG BEDFORD AND S SO WILSON STREETS TO COMMERCIAL IS INAPPROPRIATE AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

HERE'S AN IMAGE SHOWING THE USES OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND SURROUNDING AREA.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS PUBLIC AND COMMERCIAL USES ON ROSEWOOD AND HARGRAVE STREETS AND ONLY RESIDENTIAL ON BEDFORD, WHICH IS TO THE EAST AND SOL WILKINSON, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING STREET TYPES WITH BEDFORD AND SEOUL WILSON STREETS AS SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS SHOWN IN RED THAT TERMINATE IN DEAD ENDS.

UM, YOU CAN SEE ROSEWOOD AND 12TH STREET TO THE NORTH ARE MUCH MORE MAJOR STREETS THAT HAVE LARGER CAPACITY HAVE PUBLIC TRANSIT ON THEM.

AND HARGRAVE IS ALSO A STREET THAT IS, UM, DESIGNATED AS A SMP LEVEL TWO AND HAS HIGHER CAPACITY.

UH, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU, IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THIS PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE, UM, HERE'S AN IMAGE FACING, UH, WEST SHOWING ROSEWOOD STREET WITH THE, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT.

YOU CAN SEE THIS IS, UM, MUCH, THIS IS A, A CONSIDERABLE STREET THAT COULD HANDLE TRAFFIC.

THIS IS HARGRAVE STREET.

UM, THIS IS BORDERING THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AGAIN, CAPACITY FOR TRAFFIC AND CARS.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE REZONING APPLICATION IS FOR, UM, IT BECOMES A VERY RESIDENTIAL STREET THAT DOES NOT HAVE MUCH CAPACITY.

AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, ANOTHER STREET.

THIS IS BEDFORD STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE.

UM, VERY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER WITH ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES SIMILAR HERE.

THIS IS JUST FACING NORTH, UM, THE TWO STREETS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE BEDFORD.

AND SO WILSON'S TERMINATE AT DEAD ENDS.

WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC COMING DOWN THESE STREETS AND, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO TURN AROUND IN BEFORE, UH, PREVIOUSLY.

UM, SO THIS IS THE, THE ZONING, THE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

WHERE, UM, HOW AM I DOING ON TIME? OH, I HAVE VERY LITTLE LEFT.

SO THIS IS A CURRENT ZONING.

UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED ZONING AND WE FIND THIS INCOMPATIBLE DUE TO ITS PUSHING COMMERCIAL USE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPOSED OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, THE PRESENCE ALONG STREETS THAT DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HOLD THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC.

AND, UM, IT'S UNBALANCED WITH SOUL WILSON TO THE EAST.

THIS IS MY SUGGESTION OF KEEPING SINGLE FAMILY AS CURRENTLY ZONED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, HOMELESS PREVENTION WORK WITH ECHO AND THE GUYS AROUND HERE.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHELSEA MCCULLOUGH.

CHELSEA WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

CHELSEA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES, LOOKS LIKE CHELSEA'S NOT IN OUR QUEUE, BUT WE'LL KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR HER AND COME BACK IF SHE JOINS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER FERRELL.

JENNIFER, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JANINE DIAZ.

JANINE, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARTHA ROMAN.

MARTHA, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SABRINA WOODS TAYLOR, SABRINA WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

SABRINA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KENNETH WALLACE.

KENNETH, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

HOW YOU GUYS DOING? UH, THANKS TO ALL THE CITY LEADERS, COMMISSION CHAIRS, UH, AND THE COMMUNITY FOR SUPPORTING US AND LISTENING.

TODAY, I JUST WANNA SPEAK ON THE, UH, HOMELESSNESS.

UH, I'M A THIRD FOURTH GENERATION OFFICER TONIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, I DO A LOT OF,

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AND, UH, WHAT BRINGS ME HERE TODAY IS MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY AND WE'VE OWNED THAT HOUSE FOR AT LEAST 40 YEARS.

SO WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS TO, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS AND THE CONSTANT CHALLENGES OUR CITY IS FACING.

WE CAN REFER BACK TO THE 1928 MASTER PLAN THAT WAS CARRIED OUT AND HOW THE CITY HAS CONTINUED TO CARRY THESE PLANS OUT INTO 2025 BY ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO REZONE PROPERTIES IN GREATER EAST AUSTIN, RAISING THE PROPERTY TAXES AND PRICING OUT THE COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENTS.

THIS ITEM PASSING WILL NOT ONLY CREATE MORE HOMELESSNESS IN EAST AUSTIN, BUT ALSO DISPLACE THE CHILDREN THAT WERE USING THAT LEARNING CENTER, GIVING THEM NOWHERE TO GO WHILE FORCING THEM INTO THE STREETS, CREATING A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

WHAT TYPES OF MESSAGES ARE WE SENDING TO OUR COMMUNITY? BY ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO USE OUR CHILDREN'S SPACES AS COLLATERAL TO BUILD AN EXCHANGE FOR OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS, WE NEED TO PRIOR PRIORITIZE EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND COMMUNITY PRESERVATION, ALONG WITH PROPERTY TAXES FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN IN THAT COMMUNITY.

INSTEAD, WE CONSTANTLY LINE DEVELOPERS POCKETS AND ALLOW THEM TO USE OUR SPACES AND PUSH US OUT.

THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING YOU GUYS TODAY AND THE CITY TO HELP PROTECT OUR BEST INTERESTS AS COMMUNITY LEADERS AND AS THE COMMUNITY TAXPAYERS OF AUSTIN.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARIELLE TYLER.

MARIELLE, YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SAMUEL GOLEB.

SAMUEL WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY SAMUEL.

PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HEATHER SIEGEL.

HEATHER WILL BE ALS WILL ALSO BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

HEATHER, PLEASE PRESS SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

LIKE GETTING, BECAUSE IT'S, THE CITY REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THE TOOLS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AARON K MINGER.

AARON, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

HELLO EVERYONE.

HI.

UM, DO NOT SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE I LIVE.

UH, MY HOMESTEAD, MY FAMILY'S HOMESTEAD IS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THIS PROPERTY.

UM, I BELIEVE WE BOUGHT IT IN 20 10, 20 10 OR 2011.

THE REASON BEING IS IT WAS CLOSE TO OUR WORK CIRCLES AND IT WAS THE CHEAPEST HOUSE THAT WE COULD MOVE INTO IN THAT REGION, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO, TO MAKE IT LIVABLE.

THE ZONING PROPOSED IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH SF THREE.

IT'S ALSO INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS THAT ARE IN OUR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S TWO DEAD ENDS AND, UM, THE DEAD END THAT I LIVE ON IS NEITHER OF THEM HAVE A CUL-DE-SAC.

UM, THE DEAD END I LIVE ON HAS A STEEP DOWNGRADE GREATER THAN 10% GRADE TO THE DEAD END.

AND AT THE TOP OF THE HILL THERE'S A 45 DEGREE TURN.

SO THERE'S CONSTANT MAYHEM WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO CUT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

INCREASED TRAFFIC WOULD BE A NO GO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THIS IS A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE REPRESENTATION THAT YOU USUALLY GET FROM A LARGER BLOCK OF HOUSES.

UM, WE ALL HAVE SMALL LOTS AND WE ALL HAVE SMALL HOUSES FOR THE, FOR THE MOST PART.

UM, IT'S A WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND UH, I THINK, UH, I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD HONOR THE HISTORY OF NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF, UM, THE CULTURAL LANDSCAPE.

AND, UH, I ENCOURAGE DOING SOMETHING

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GETTING, THAT WAS YOUR TIME, BUT, BUT THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST GET 'EM TO, UH, DO SOMETHING THAT HAS A SOCIAL JUSTICE COMPONENT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BUBBA.

BUBBA, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNY GRAYSON.

JENNY, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PHILIP TOM.

PHILIP WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

PHILIP, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BETH HOYT.

BETH, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TAMMA WYNN TAMMA WILL, JOINING US VIRTUALLY TAMA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DESTINY HARRISON.

DESTINY WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

DESTINY, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LEANNA HANSEN.

LEANNA WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

LEANNA, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.

NONE OF THOSE WHO WE MISSED ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR QUEUE.

SO WE'LL NOW BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT.

RICHARD, SETTLE FOR A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, THE COMMISSION.

MR. GARCIA, IS THERE A CHANCE, IS, IS THE STAFF REPORT SHOW ABLE TO BE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN OR NO? I CAN GET IT PULLED UP VERY QUICKLY.

I'M LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING FOR PAGE NINE.

ZONING WOULD BE PAGE NINE, IF IT'S, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WOULD BE PAGE 23, WHATEVER'S EASIEST ON Y'ALL.

THAT'S PERFECT RIGHT THERE.

RICHARD SU AGAIN, THE REASON I WANTED, UM, THIS PICTURE UP, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

THE COLORS ON THIS MAP SHOW THAT THE ZONING CATEGORY CUTS RIGHT THROUGH THE EXISTING SCHOOL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REUSE.

UM, MY CLIENT WANTS TO REUSE THE BUILDING.

I MEAN, THAT'S, WE'VE SAID THAT OVER AND OVER AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STICKING TO THAT.

COINCIDENTALLY, MY, MY CLIENT DID, UH, A PROJECT CALLED SPRINGDALE GENERAL AND A, AND A REUSE OF A BUILDING CALLED CANOPY.

SO THAT'S THE BUSINESS THEY'RE IN.

BUT WITH THE ZONING THE WAY THIS IS RIGHT NOW WITH SF ON ONE HALF OF THE BUILDING AND CS ON THE OTHER, WE JUST, WE JUST CAN'T, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT.

UM, THIS ZONING WON'T DISPLACE ANYONE.

THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT DISPLACING, WE'RE NOT GENTRIFYING THIS AREA.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET IT CONSISTENT.

WE'RE CAPPING ANY, ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT GOES ON THE SITE, WE'RE WILLING TO CAP IT AT THE SAME RESTRICTION THAT'S ON THERE NOW AT 40 FEET, WHICH WOULD RESPECT THE, UH, EXISTING HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.

AND VERY SIMPLY, ALL WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT IS FOR YOU TO DISCUSS WITH US WHAT KIND OF CONDITIONS YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO, UH, MAKE THE, MAKE THE ZONING CONSISTENT SO THAT WE CAN REMODEL THIS IMPORTANT BUILDING AND, UH, HAVE ADAPTED RE WELL, ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATION ON THIS BUILDING.

IT, IT'S, IT'S A FEDERAL PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW.

WE'RE IN PHASE OR STEP NUMBER TWO ON THAT AND INTEND TO HAVE THAT BUTTONED UP BY THE TIME THE, THE PROJECT'S BEING BUILT.

IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THIS HISTORIC ZONING, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD DESIGNATION AND IT SHOWS THE, THE INTENT OF MY CLIENTS, UH, TO, TO USE THIS BUILDING.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND, AND I WANNA THANK THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEIR, UH, PROFESSIONALISM AND COURTEOUSNESS IN, IN TALKING WITH US IN ALL IN OUR CONVERSATIONS AND IN OUR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

COMMISSIONER BETTER MOVES SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEMS TWO AND THREE? SO MOVED.

OBJECTIONS.

NO OBJECTIONS.

ALL THAT PASSES.

OKAY, LET'S DO ROUND ROBIN COMMISSIONER'S GONNA BE UP TO EIGHT COMMISSIONERS.

FIVE MINUTES EACH.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO START US OFF?

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COMMISSIONER BEDA RAMIREZ? SURE.

UP.

I I CAN START.

I MEAN, I, I THINK I APPLAUD YOU, UM, PURSUING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND THE FEDERAL PROCESS AND I, I CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE IN A PICKLE OF A PROBLEM THAT IT'S, THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, DIVID, YOUR ZONING'S DIVIDING YOUR BUILDING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO DO THE ADAPTIVE REUSE.

I GUESS I NOTE THERE'S KIND OF EIGHT TRACKS OF LAND THAT FRONT ON BEDFORD AND THERE'S ONE ON SOL WILSON.

THEY'RE NOT TRACKS, THEY'RE JUST, YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE LINES ON THE ZONING PROFILE AND, UM, ON THE MAP THAT WE JUST SAW, UM, IS THERE A DIFFERENT, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS ALLOWED, IS THERE A DIFFERENT WAY TO SLICE UP THE PROPERTY SO THAT YOU COULD ZONE THE PIECES THAT ARE, UM, WHERE THE BUILDING IS OR I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, THE BUILDING IS AN IRREGULAR SHAPE AND IT, IT DOES, IT, IT'S BLIND TO THE PROPERTY LINES.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND I GUESS IT'S NOT A PROPERTY LINE THAT I'M SEEING ON THE MAP.

THEY'RE JUST SMALLER TRACKS OR SOMETHING.

METHING, PROBABLY OLD LOT LINES OR SOMETHING OLD.

LOT LINES.

RIGHT.

SO I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS COULD YOU SLICE IT UP A DIFFERENT WAY AND HAVE A MORE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SF THREE, BUT SOME KIND OF MORE RESIDENTIAL USE ON BEDFORD AND SO WILSON AND RETAIN THE ADAPTIVE REUSE PIECE ON WHERE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS.

WELL ON, SO WILSON, THERE'S TWO, TWO COMPONENTS.

ONE IS THE EXISTING PARKING LOT AND THE DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN FROM THE DRIVEWAY OVER, UM, IS WHERE WE WERE THINKING THE RESIDENTIAL OR LIVE WORK UNITS MIGHT GO AND THEN ALONG BED, THEN YOU'RE RIGHT ALONG BEDFORD IT WOULD COME ALONG.

BUT IF YOU START DOING PART OF IT, A DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORY, THEN YOU CAN'T BLEND THE DEVELOPMENT REGS GOTCHA.

ACROSS THE WHOLE SITE.

AND IT JUST BECOMES MORE CHALLENGING.

SO YOU DO INTEND TO KEEP THE DRIVEWAY ON.

SO WILSON AND THE PARKING ON, SO WILSON AS PART OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT, THE PARKING? YES.

NOW THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS INTERESTING.

UM, WE'VE HEARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOUD AND CLEAR.

THEY REALLY DON'T WANT THAT THERE.

UM, IF WE COULD GET OUR DRIVEWAY THAT GOES OUT TO HARGRAVE TO BE A FULL ACCESS DRIVEWAY, THEN THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT WE COULD SOMEHOW CLOSE THE ONE ON SOLE.

THE PROBLEM IS THE ONE ON HARGRAVE IS VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION AND WE'RE NOT SURE IF THE TRAFFIC GUYS WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ON OUR LIST TO EXPLORE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

'CAUSE WE HEARD THE, HEARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOUD AND CLEAR.

THEY PREFER NOT TO HAVE THAT DRIVEWAY THERE.

THE PARKING NEEDS TO STAY THOUGH.

THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

AND MAYBE A MORE APPROPRIATE QUESTION IS, CAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD APPLY FOR RPP TO PREVENT COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC FROM PARKING ALONG? SO WILSON IN BEDFORD, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, THIS IS MATE HERE.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER BRETTON? UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS BOTH FOR THE APPLICANT AND MAYBE FOR STAFF IF THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ILLUMINATE SOME THINGS.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION, BECAUSE THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA.

THERE'S, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR CLIENT TO DEVELOP MIXED USE, NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL, BUT COMMERCIAL.

IS THERE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY ROUGH UNITS, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL AND MAYBE HOW MANY BUSINESSES MAY BE ON THE SITE? SO THIS WILL BE A PREDOMINANTLY, PROBABLY MORE COMMERCIAL THAN RESIDENTIAL.

WE'RE THINKING THE SITE CAN REALLY ONLY TAKE ABOUT 15 TO 20 UNITS BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE USING THE EXISTING BUILDING AND WE'RE LIMITING THE HEIGHT.

UM, THE NATURAL PLACE FOR THE, THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE OVER ALONG BEDFORD.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TOWN HOMES, ROW HOUSES, UM, LIVE WORK UNITS AND PROBABLY WE'RE THINKING ABOUT 15 TO 20.

WE HAVEN'T DONE A SITE PLAN YET, BUT IT WILL BE MIXED.

I MEAN, THERE WILL BE SOME RESIDENTIAL, BUT PREDOMINANTLY, UH, UH, JUST LIKE SPRINGDALE GENERAL AND ALL, IT'LL BE SMALLER TENANTS IN THE EXISTING BUILDING.

UH, SO TO CLARIFY, MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE GONNA BE IN THAT BUILDING.

THAT'S, UH, BOTH ALONG A LITTLE BIT OF ROSEWOOD ALONG, UH, HARGRAVE AND THEN ALSO, SO WILSON TO THE NORTH? YES, THAT'S EXISTING SCHOOL.

UH, I, LET'S SEE, UH, DO YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION? I HEARD THAT THE CHARTER SCHOOL THAT WAS OPERATING OUT OF THIS LOCATION CLOSED IN JUNE.

IS THAT CORRECT? DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT? YES.

I DON'T KNOW THE MONTH, BUT THEY'VE CLOSED.

OKAY, COOL.

UM, I THINK MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR STAFF.

UM, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR RPP? BECAUSE THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WHERE IF THERE IS COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, THEY WANT TO AVOID THAT, UH, PARKING OCCURRING ALONG.

SO WILSON AND BEDFORD WHERE RPP MAY BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM TBW HERE.

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UH, I AM, UH, WITH THE TPW.

UH, SO I, UH, I'LL TRY LIKE, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT CONTEXT, UH, ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THEN I'LL TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS THERE.

SO THIS SIDE, THEY WILL PAY A STREET IMPACT FEE.

SO THIS SUB, UH, SIDE IS SUBJECT TO STREET IMPACT FEE.

THE PROPOSED INTENSITY THAT WE SEE, UH, IT IS, IT'LL COME AROUND 250 K TO 300 K.

THAT IS THE AMOUNT WE ARE EXPECTING FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT ALSO.

UH, SO WE COLLECT THE STREET IMPACT FEE FROM DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS.

WE HAVE 17 SERVICE AREA, UH, IN CITY OF AUSTIN.

IT'S ONE OF THE SERVICE AREA.

AND WE DO HAVE THREE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS WITHIN THOUSAND FEET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE STREET IMPACT FEE, ROAD CAPACITY PLAN THAT WILL HELP, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION.

SO, UH, UM, IS THIS LIKE RPP? CAN YOU ELABORATE? IS IT A PROPORTIONALITY, THIS RP, THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING PROGRAM OR RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMIT? UM, UH, I THINK I, I DON'T HAVE THE FULL DETAILS ABOUT THAT PROGRAM, BUT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU AFTER TALKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

UM, OKAY THEN I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

I THINK, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A BUS STOP RIGHT ALONG THIS PROPERTY ON ROSEWOOD WITH THE HIGH FREQUENCY, UH, ROUTE TWO, WHICH TO ME IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE MAYBE VISITING THIS COMMERCIAL, UH, AREA TO NOT HAVE TO DRIVE TO THIS.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ACROSS THE STREET ON, UH, HARGRAVE IS MILLENNIUM AND THERE'S A HUGE PARKING LOT THERE, WHICH WOULD BE CLOSER DEPENDING ON, UH, HOW YOU DO THIS, UH, AND WHERE THEY PARK THAN SOME OF THE PARKING SPOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I MIGHT EXPECT PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A LOWER LEVEL STREET, TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET PARK AT MILLENNIUM AND YEAH.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER POWELL, A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

FIRST OFF, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, COMMEND Y'ALL FOR SEEKING THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER.

UH, IT WAS SAID IN A LOT OF THE TESTIMONY FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE IMPORTANCE OF HOW HISTORIC THIS SITE IS.

AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY NOT EXAGGERATING.

SO HEARING AND INTENTION FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE IS, IS VERY EXCITING.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, HAVE Y'ALL INTERACTED WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION OR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE? UM, OR IS THERE AN INTENTION TO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS? WELL, THEY'VE, THEY'VE COMMENTED ON THE ZONING THE MINUTE WE DO ANY SORT OF, UH, EXTERIOR DEMOLITION TO THE SITE WE'RE GONNA GET A RIDE THROUGH THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

SO WE INTEND TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

IT'S STILL SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS WE HAVE NOT ENGAGED 'EM SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN YET, BUT THEY'LL DEFINITELY BE INVOLVED.

GOT IT.

COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF OF, AND I'M, YEAH, THANK YOU MR. TOMKO.

I UNDERSTAND THE, THE DESIRE TO HAVE THIS TRACT OF LAND HAVE A SINGLE ZONING DESIGNATION OF, EVEN IF THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT IS TODAY OF, I'M A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS HOW WE GOT THERE.

MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A SCHOOL BUILDING AND IT WAS SORT OF GOVERNMENT USE, IT JUST WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? SO STAFF LOOKED INTO THAT IT WAS, UH, AN ORDINANCE WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS DEVELOPED.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE PLUM IS, UH, CURRENTLY PUBLIC.

UM, BUT FOR SOME REASON WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS ADOPTED, THIS PORTION WOULD RETAIN THE SF THREE AND THE OTHER PORTION IS ZONED WITH THE CURRENT THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY ASKING FOR.

UM, I THINK STAFF IN ATTEMPTING TO BALANCE THAT ON THIS SITE, UH, PROHIBITED SOME ADDITIONAL USES ON THIS, UH, THIS NORTHERN PORTION.

I'M HAPPY TO READ THOSE IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED, BUT THERE'S ABOUT 11 USES THAT WE CHOSE TO PROHIBIT ON TOP OF WHAT WAS ALREADY RESTRICTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE TRACK.

GO AHEAD AND READ THOSE IN.

UM, SO, UH, FROM THE CONDITIONAL USES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, AUTOMOTIVE SALES, EXTERMINATING SERVICES, KENNELS AND MONUMENT RETAIL SERVICES WOULD BE PROHIBITED.

AND ADDITIONAL USES THAT WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY PROHIBITED WOULD BE BAIL BOND SERVICES, AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS, ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL SERVICES, BUILDING MAINTENANCE SERVICES DRIVE THROUGH AS AN ACCESSORY TO ANY USE.

THIS WAS AGAIN, TO TRY AND FOCUS ON LIMITING TRAFFIC, RESPONSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS, UM, FUNERAL SERVICES AND PETTY CAB STORAGE AND DISPATCH.

AND THIS IS MY NAIVETE TO OUR ZONING REGULATIONS OR HOW WE MIGHT CRAFT THEM.

SO I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION, UH, ALSO TO STAFF IS,

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IS IT POSSIBLE TO SOMEHOW WITHIN THIS CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS DESIGNATE A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IE THAT THE SIDE, THE BEDFORD STREET SIDE TO DESIGNATE ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN A GEOGRAPHY OF THIS PARCEL? DOES THAT MAKE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A SINGLE ZONING CATEGORY, CAN WE, 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DESIRE IS TO BUILD SOME RESIDENTIAL SCALE TYPE OF POTENTIAL STRUCTURES THERE, BUT HOW DO WE YEAH, CERTAINLY.

HOW DO WE FORMALIZE THAT? CERTAINLY YOU COULD CERTAINLY HAVE DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS WITHIN THIS TRACT.

IT WOULD JUST BE A DIFFERENT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT ALLOWS, THAT, UH, APPLIES TO A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE TRACK IF YOU WISH TO RESTRICT MORE USES WITHIN THAT, THAT CS BASE, UH, OF A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE TRACT, KIND OF LIKE YOU WOULD DO WITH A HEIGHT SETBACK.

IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, DECREASE THE HEIGHT OVER A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE TRACK, YOU WOULD JUST BE DOING IT WITH USES.

WE WOULD NEED SPECIFICS ON THAT.

AND OF COURSE THAT WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL REQUEST AND THAT WOULD BE, HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT'S AGREEMENT WERE ABLE TO.

AND I THINK MY LAST QUESTION, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND EXPLORE THIS IS THAT THAT WOULD IMPACT THE PARKING USE FOR, 'CAUSE THE WAY RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S PARKING ON A PORTION OF THE TRACK THAT MIGHT POTENTIALLY BE SUITABLE FOR HOUSING IF THAT WERE IN A SEPARATE ZONING CLASS CATEGORY.

I MEAN, SO IF YOU WANTED TO OFFER A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT ALLOWS CERTAIN USES, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE BASE DISTRICT.

SO YOU CAN'T ALLOW USES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE BASE DISTRICT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

UNDERSTOOD.

I THINK SO.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE MOMENT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER LAND.

HI.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR APPLICANT MR. SETTLE.

I'LL GIVE HIM A MINUTE.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS LAUNCHING OFF THAT IDEA.

NO PROBLEM.

UM, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE INTENDED PROGRAMMING OF THE SITE? WE HEARD FROM A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE CONCERNS FOR NOT HAVING A LOT OF PUBLIC ACCESS OR USE.

CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF COMMUNITY USES ARE INTENDED FOR THE SITE AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS WELL? THAT'S, THAT'S A HARD ONE BECAUSE A DEVELOPER LOOKS AT ANYTHING THAT WILL BE A TENANT AND PAY RENT AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT, IT, IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS SCHOOL WAS A, A COMMUNITY USE FOREVER.

IT IS NOW TRANSFORMING TO A COMMERCIAL USE.

SO THE INTENT IS TO HAVE A SERIES OF SMALL TENANTS WITHIN THE SCHOOL BUILDING.

AND THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A SMALL ICE CREAM SHOP, A ART STORE, A JEWELRY STORE, UH, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS SMALL MERCHANTS TYPE THING, MUCH LIKE YOU HAVE AT, AT, UH, SPRINGDALE GENERAL.

SO WHAT I HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY USE, LIKE A COMMUNITY LIKE MILLENNIAL IS A, IS A, IS A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MY CLIENT'S BUSINESS.

THEY'RE, THAT'S NOT THE BUSINESS THEY'RE IN.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF HAVING TENANTS IN THIS BUILDING.

AS A FOLLOW UP, WHAT ABOUT OUTDOOR SPACES? DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR MAKING SMALL, LIKE POCKET SIZE PARKS, PUBLIC PLAZAS? YOU, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET, BUT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

ME GATHERING PLACES AND ALL OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS.

A SORT OF TRANSFORMATIONAL OVER SAY, 10 YEAR PERIOD.

THANKS COMMISSIONER LAN.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? UH, I'M GONNA GO COMMISSIONER MAXWELL AND THEN GO COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, UH, SO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, I THINK SOME OF US WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH CANOPY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY TOOK A SITE THAT NOW HOSTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SMALL BUSINESSES, AS YOU MENTIONED, A HUGE MIX OF SERVICES.

I ASSUME THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THIS BUILDING BECAUSE THEY FEEL THE SAME MODEL WOULD WORK HERE DESPITE ITS HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT'S EXACTLY, I MEAN THAT THAT MODEL FOR THE INTERIOR IS EXACTLY LIKE CANOPY OR, OR SPRINGDALE.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ADDITION TO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO AT THIS SITE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT A BIG ENOUGH SITE, I GUESS IT'S NOT A BIG ENOUGH SITE TO DO A LOT OF IT, BUT IT'S A, A NICE ENOUGH SITE TO DO 15 OR 20 UNITS.

AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S A RELATED QUESTION.

UH, CANOPY HAS BEEN

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AND THAT'S THE SAME IDEA HERE IS THAT YOU WOULD MAYBE DO THIS IN PHASES OR ALL AT ONCE.

I KNOW THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT HAVING EMPTY BUILDINGS AND SORT OF UNUSED SPACE FOR A LONG PERIOD.

THIS BUILDING LENDS ITSELF TO MORE ALL AT ONCE.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU FINISH IT OUT IN PHASES, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AN ALL IT'S, IT'S ONE BUILDING THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE DONE ALL AT ONCE.

THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT NOW IT COULD BE PHASED.

AND, AND JUST A MORE GENERAL QUESTION, UM, I THINK ALL OF US ARE AWARE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN AUSTIN ARE IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION FINANCIALLY.

AND IT COULD BE THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE TYPES OF BUILDINGS COMING AVAILABLE FOR SORT OF REUSE AND, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M CURIOUS, LIKE, THIS SEEMS LIKE A VERY PROMISING WAY TO REUSE SOME SCHOOL FACILITIES IN A WAY THAT REALLY BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR CLIENT SEES THAT VALUE AS WELL.

YES, THAT'S, THAT'S, THIS IS THEIR FASTBALL.

THEY, THEY REALLY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS KIND OF STUFF.

BECAUSE I MEAN, I WILL SAY IF WE DO END UP WITH SCHOOL CLOSURES IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND WE HAVE MORE F FACILITIES LIKE THIS, SEEING AN EXCITING PROJECT THAT TRIES TO RESPECT THE BUILDING AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS AND WORKS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND IS ADAPTED INTO THE SORT OF AREA THAT IT'S SITUATED IN, SEEMS LIKE A WIN-WIN.

THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE .

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VICE CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.

COMMISSIONER HILLER, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND I'M ASKING YOU TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON BEHALF OF THE UM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP IN THIS REGARD.

BUT YOU'VE BROUGHT UP THAT THERE'S BEEN ONGOING CONVERSATIONS AND AN EFFORT TO TRY AND REACH SOME TYPE OF COMPROMISE AND COME UP WITH MAYBE NOVEL SOLUTIONS TO THE, THE GOALS THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE PROJECT REDEVELOPMENT.

TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY, LIKE WHAT STUFF HAVE YOU DISCUSSED BUT RULED OUT LIKE, HEY, THIS, WE KNOW THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK.

BESIDES THE LIMITATIONS DUE TO THE CURRENT SF THREE ZONING? WELL, FIRST LET ME, LET ME BIFURCATE YOUR QUESTION 'CAUSE YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'D RATHER CHRIS COME UP AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT STUFF, BUT WELL, I'M ASKING TO SAY WHAT YOUR SIDE, LIKE, HEY, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, THIS DIDN'T WORK.

YOU TALKED ABOUT LIKE, HEY, THE, THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT WE CAN'T DELIVER, BUT THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT WE CAN'T, I'M WONDERING WHAT, LIKE, YOU, YOU CAME HERE LIKE, HEY, CAN YOU ADD SOME SOLUTIONS TO US? I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE ONES YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY PURSUED AND SAID, HEY, THIS JUST DOESN'T WORK.

SURE.

SO, AND I DON'T HAVE 'EM COMMITTED TO MEMORY, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY OPEN UP THE LIST.

THERE ARE SOME USES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RETAIN, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PROHIBITED USES AND WE HAVEN'T COME TO SHORE YET ON THOSE.

IT'S THAT KIND OF DISAGREEMENT.

UM, ANOTHER DISAGREEMENT THAT I THINK WE HAVE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR IS ALONG, UH, ALONG THE, THE SOLE WILSON, THE ENTIRE DISTANCE ALONG THERE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE EITHER A RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION OR SOMETHING, AND WE HAVE A PARKING LOT AND A DRIVEWAY THERE THAT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T GET RID OF.

AND THEIR IDEA WOULD BE TO GET RID OF THAT PARKING LOT.

UM, CHRIS, WHERE ELSE ARE WE DIFFERING? UM, I THINK THEY, THEY WANT US TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION PROCESS NOW, AND THAT IS A CUMBERSOME PROCESS THAT WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES AT THE RIGHT TIME, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT, BUT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN GOING THROUGH IT RIGHT NOW.

UM, CHRIS, HELP ME OUT HERE.

WHAT ELSE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH, FRANKLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL FRONTS.

UM, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IS HUGE.

CURB CUTS, I THINK, UH, IF ALLOWED WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE.

UH, STRUCTURAL MASSING AND, YOU KNOW, TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT ARE DIRECTLY A BUDDING ASMP, ONE STREETS AND HOMES THAT MATTERS, UH, FOR QUALITY OF LIFE.

KEN, I ONLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

I, IF YOU'LL FORGIVE ME FOR INTERRUPTING YOU.

UM, AND I DON'T WANNA DIG FOR YOUR LAST NAME, SO I'M JUST GONNA CALL YOU CHRIS TOO.

IT'S A LITTLE OVERLY INFORMAL.

I APOLOGIZE.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR PERSONAL, LIKE, IF YOU SAID, HEY, I HAVE ONE MAIN GOAL, I'D LIKE TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC, LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR NUMBER ONE? I, I HONESTLY CAN'T DRILL IT DOWN BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ONE FOR ME, JUST FOR YOU.

JUST FOR YOU.

I JUST WANNA KNOW YOUR OPINION, BUT I'M NOT UP HERE FOR ME.

I'M HERE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

THINGS THAT ARE REALLY, REALLY REASONABLE.

WELL YOU DON'T KNOW THE RESIDENTS TO TAKE THAT QUESTION THEM.

DO YOU KNOW YOURS? AND IF YOU DO KNOW THE RESIDENTS, WHAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THEIRS? I THINK THEY WANT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, UM, TO NOT BE GREATLY, NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.

THEY DON'T WANT IT OVERLY GENTRIFIED.

YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT THEIR STREET TO HAVE A CRAZY TRIP COUNT EVERY DAY TRYING TO ACCESS THE PARKING LOT FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE BUSINESS MAY BE.

THEY DON'T WANT WILD, YOU KNOW, HOURS OF OPERATION THAT ARE TOTALLY DISRUPTIVE,

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AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE SEEN SOME, UH, PROGRESS AND I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE PRODUCTIVE GOING FORWARD.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, TODAY WE'RE NOT IN A, IN A STATE WHERE IT'S SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK FOR GOOD REASON BECAUSE, UM, C-S-M-U-C-L-N-P DOES OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UH, SPECIFICALLY THE NEW STATE LEGISLATION THAT TOOK EFFECT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT DAYS AGO.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

SURE.

COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPOT.

COMMISSIONER AHMED? YEAH, A QUICK QUESTION.

I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UH, THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC ISSUES HERE AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, THERE'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF I WANTED TO MAKE, UH, MAKE SURE I WAS CERTAIN ON THIS.

UM, AT SOME POINT IN THE PROCESS, I'M ASSUMING AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE THERE WILL BE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SEE CONSTRUCTION HERE BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO ANALYZE THAT AND SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE.

UH, THIS IS AGAIN FROM TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, LIKE, SO EVERY JOINING AND SITE PLAN WE DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DETERMINATION AT THE JOINING LEVEL AND SITE PLAN.

YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

SO AT THE JOINING LEVEL, THE PROPOSED LAND USE TYPE AND INTENSITY, WE HAVE SEEN IT DID NOT TRIGGER ANY TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

IF IT REMAINS THE SAME, PROBABLY IT WON'T TRIGGER TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, BUT IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OR THERE IS A CHANGE IN LAND USE TYPE AND INTENSITY AT THE SECOND LEVEL, WE WILL HAVE THE DETERMINATION AND WE WILL KNOW, UH, IF A TI ANALYSIS WILL BE NEEDED AT THE TIME.

THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO OFFER A MOTION, UM, TO, UH, GO WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST HERE.

APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER LAMB.

ALRIGHT, ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER, MAN, YOU MADE THE MOTION.

UH, YES, I'D LOVE TO SPEAK ON THIS.

UM, I HEAR A LOT OF THE FOLKS, UH, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE, UH, AND THEIR CONCERNS.

UH, I PERSONALLY LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THIS LOCATION HERE AND, UH, I SEE A LOT OF POTENTIAL VALUE IN, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THIS LOCATION.

SO FIRST OF ALL, JUST FROM A PHILOSOPHICAL PERSPECTIVE, UH, I THINK GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A BUILDING ALREADY HERE, HAVING JOINT ZONING ACROSS THE ENTIRE LOT, THAT THIS ZONE THAT THIS BUILDING IS ON MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

UM, BUT AS A RESIDENT IN EAST AUSTIN, AS I'VE SEEN CANOPY AND SPRINGDALE GENERAL, UH, THE TWO PROJECTS THAT THIS DEVELOPER'S WORKED ON, THEY'VE BEEN TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, THEY'VE, THEY'VE INCREASED THE QUALITY OF LIFE SUBSTANTIALLY FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN EAST AUSTIN.

UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD IS ABOUT HAVING PUBLIC SPACES.

BOTH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC SPACES AS WELL, UM, OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RETAIL THAT YOU HAVE IN THOSE TWO LOCATIONS.

AND SO I'M HOPEFUL WE'LL SEE THAT IN THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

FINALLY, I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECT HERE, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP SOME OF THE REMNANTS OF THE HISTORY HERE IN, UH, IN THIS PART EAST AUSTIN AS WELL WITH THE ADAPTIVE REUSE PLANTS THAT, UH, THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS.

SO OVERALL, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A HUGE POSITIVE, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT LIVE IN THE AREA WOULD BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SEEING A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

AND COMMISSIONER AHMED IN LAND, THIS IS FOR AN ITEM FOR, UM, APPLICANT REQUEST FOR ITEMS TWO AND THREE? THAT IS CORRECT.

UH, SPEAKER OPPOSED IN FAVOR, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.

OR EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER RUTTON.

UM, I AM VERY EXCITED THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER ARE INTERESTED IN RESPECTING THE HISTORY OF THE SITE, LOOKING TO ADD A VARIETY OF USES.

I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL LOCATION THAT'S WELL CONNECTED TO TRANSIT, VERY CLOSE TO A TRAIL CONNECTION FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE DON'T OWN A CAR AND CAN'T GET TO THAT SPECIFIC BUS LINE.

UH, AND THERE'S GONNA BE NEW HOUSING.

I THINK THIS, UH, LOOKS PRETTY POSITIVE.

I HOPE THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT CONTINUES ON THE PATH THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON.

THINGS AND REALLY EMPHASIZE SOME THINGS I'M HEARING THAT MIX OUT SPECIFICALLY TO KEEP HAVING THESE GREAT CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANYONE SPEAKING OPPOSED IN FAVOR, MR. POWELL? SO I JUST WANT TO, UM, ECHO A FEW

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KEEP THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT.

UM, I AGAIN, THINK IT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD THING THAT THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER IS BEING SOUGHT HERE.

IT'S A VERY ROBUST DESIGNATION, MEANS A LOT BECAUSE AS I SHARED EARLIER, THIS, THIS HISTORY ISN'T UNDERSTATED.

THE HISTORY OF THE ROSEDALE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THIS SITE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

LOCAL HISTORY, SEEING A REUSE THAT HONORS THAT HISTORY IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROCESS.

AND TO THAT END, KIND OF WANNA MENTION TOO, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIRECTLY OVERSEE PLANNING COMMISSION VERSUS HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, HOW THEY INTERACT.

AND SO, UH, THE APPLICANT ALLUDED TO EARLIER, KIND OF SOME TRIGGERS IN THE PROCESS.

SO I WANT TO QUOTE SOMETHING THAT'S IN EXHIBIT E OF THE BACKUP.

UM, FROM MS. CONTRERAS, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER FOR THE CITY THAT SAYS, WHEN SOMEONE FILES A SITE PLAN INVOLVING DEMO, AN APPLICATION FOR PARTIAL DEMO EDITION, OR AN APPLICATION FOR A TOTAL DEMO OF ANY PROPERTY, OVER 45 YEARS OLD DSD ASSIGNS A REVIEW PROCESS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE BECAUSE OF ITS KNOWN SIGNIFICANCE, WE'LL REFER ANY DSD ASSIGNED APPLICATION INVOLVING REMOVAL OF HISTORIC MATERIALS FOR THIS PROPERTY TO THE HLC.

AND SO THERE'S MORE CONTEXT BROUGHT IN THERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT CLEARLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T INTERACT WITH AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, BUT KNOWING THIS PROPERTY, KNOWING ITS AGE AND KNOWING THE PROCESS, IT'S VERY LIKELY IT WILL COME TO THE HLC THERE THROUGH THAT TRIGGER.

SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR HOLD YOUR GREEN CARDS UP.

GREEN ITEMS. COMMISSIONER HANEY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU HAVE THERE? I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT'S GREEN.

ITEMS TWO AND THREE PASSES WITH COMMISSIONER AHMED MAKING THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER LAN SECOND.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S

[14. Discussion and action on a recommendation to City Council to amend the Land Development Code, the City's technical codes, and other housing-related criteria. (Sponsored by Chair Anderson and Secretary Maxwell)]

MOVE ON.

UH, ITEM 14.

MS. GARCIA, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR 14.

IF YOU WANNA START WITH OUR SPEAKERS, THAT'D BE GREAT.

YES, CHAIR.

OUR PRIMARY SPEAKER IS SCOTT TURNER.

SCOTT WILL BE RECEIVING THREE MINUTES OF DONATED TIME FROM BRITTA WALLACE.

BRITTA, ARE YOU PRESENT? SHE'S WAVING.

SCOTT, YOU'LL HAVE EIGHT MINUTES.

UM, I'M SCOTT TURNER.

I'M AN INFILL HOME BUILDER DEVELOPER.

I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN INFILL COALITION AND A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION OF GREATER AUSTIN.

AND, UH, I WANNA START BY JUST LOOKING BACK A LITTLE BIT.

AS Y'ALL ARE AWARE, THE HOME ORDINANCE WAS REALLY A MAJOR CHANGE TO OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UH, REALLY THE FIRST SUCH MAJOR CHANGE SINCE 1984.

SO IT'S BEEN OUT 40 YEARS SINCE WE HAD SUCH A, A SWEEPING CHANGE.

AND, AND GRANTED IT DOES ONLY AFFECT ONE, TWO, AND THREE UNITS PER LOT.

SO IT'S SORT OF THE SMALLEST METRIC OF, OF HOUSING ON A LOT.

BUT NONETHELESS, A VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

UM, IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THERE, BUT, BUT WE DID, UM, IT WAS INTENDED TO MAKE TWO AND THREE UNITS ON A LOT, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS A BUILDING PERMIT FOR ONE HOME, UH, TO TRY AND INCENTIVIZE, UH, FOLKS LIKE, LIKE HOME BUILDERS LIKE MYSELF, TO DO TWO OR THREE UNITS ON A LOT INSTEAD OF JUST ONE, WHICH THE CODE INCENTIVIZED UNDER THE MCMANSION ORDINANCE, FOR EXAMPLE.

UM, AS WITH ANY MAJOR CODE CHANGE AFTER SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, THERE ARE SOME KINKS THAT ARE GONNA NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.

UM, CONFLICTS RESOLVED, OMISSIONS CORRECTED, AND SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

SO, SO THAT IT CAN FUNCTION AS INTENDED.

UM, THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT IS AN IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY FIRST STEP TOWARDS THESE SOLUTIONS, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING IT UP.

UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS ON, ON THE LIST AND THE RESOLUTION WILL REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE LDC.

UM, OTHERS ARE DEPARTMENTAL RULES OR POLICIES THAT ADD COST AND COMPLEXITY TO EVERY HOME PROJECT AND, AND FRANKLY CAN BE JUST AS IMPACTFUL IN TERMS OF THEIR, THEIR IMPACT ON, ON THE VIABILITY OF A PROJECT, UM, DUE TO THEIR COMPLEXITY SORT OF BY NATURE.

UH, THESE ARE ALL THE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS THAT THAT COUNCIL DOESN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND SHOULDN'T LOOK AT.

UM, I'M GONNA TRY AND JUST PROVIDE SOME CLARITY AND CONTEXT ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. OTHER SPEAKERS HERE TONIGHT WILL HAVE SOME MORE EXAMPLES.

UM, SO STARTING WITH THE FIRST ONE THERE, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO, UH, REVIEW THE TECHNICAL CODES AND CRITERIA MANUALS.

UM, THE DEPARTMENTAL CRITERIA MANUALS ARE WRITTEN PRIOR TO HOME, YET NOW APPLY TO IT, JUST SORT OF COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY, HEY, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY INTENDED TO HANDLE THREE UNITS ON A LOT.

UH, THEY NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND MODIFIED TO ENSURE THAT THEY MEET THE CITY'S GOALS FOR BOTH HOME AND FOR OTHER HOUSING POLICIES.

UM, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE TO REMOVE AN EXISTING LOOPHOLE IN THE CODE THAT THAT APPLIES.

SITE PLAN LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AND APPROVALS TO THREE UNIT PROJECTS.

UM, THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE OMISSIONS THAT HAPPEN WITH A MAJOR CODE CHANGE.

A DIFFERENT

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PART OF THE LDC SAYS THAT THREE OR MORE UNITS ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AS A FULL SITE PLAN.

SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TONIGHT, UM, THE CODE PREVIOUSLY WAS BUILT FOR ONE TO TWO UNITS AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO MOVING THAT THIRD UNIT DOWN INTO THE ONE, ONE TO TWO IS, IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE TONIGHT HERE.

UM, AND IT'S CODIFIED.

SO UNLIKE A BUILDING PERMIT, COMPLIANCE WITH THE WAY THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN WOULD REQUIRE A SITE PLAN EXEMPTION, SUBMITTAL, AND REVIEW, ALONG WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND THE COST OF WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENTS ACTUALLY ARE.

SO THE IMPACT ON A, ON A BUILDING PERMIT, IT, IT WOULD TAKE LONGER THAN THE BUILDING PERMIT TO GET APPROVED UNDER TODAY'S RECS.

UM, THAT JUST SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED FOR A HOME PROJECT.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ENCOURAGING YOU ACROSS THE BOARD TO CHANGE THE CODE TO INCLUDE THREE UNITS ALONG WITH ONE TO TWO, WHEREVER POSSIBLE IN THE CODE.

UM, ANOTHER ASPECT THAT COMES UP SOMETIMES ARE, UM, TREES AND LICENSING AGREEMENTS.

UM, THE LICENSE AGREEMENT CURRENTLY PROCESS IS BROKEN.

I, I PERSONALLY SPENT ABOUT $20,000 IN CONSULTING FEES AND, AND AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS OF APPROVAL TIME TO GET FOUR STREET TREES APPROVED FOR A LICENSE AGREEMENT ON A 6,500 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

UM, SO RECENTLY, UH, IT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF LICENSE AGREEMENTS CONSIDERABLY TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE EDGING AND PAVERS AND EVEN FLOWERS ON THE LIST.

UM, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SMALLER PROJECTS BECAUSE THOSE AGREEMENTS ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, AS I THINK MANY OF THE EXPERTS HERE CAN ATTEST OVER TIME.

UM, SO FIX THAT PROCESS FIRST BEFORE STARTING TO EXPAND ITS SCOPE.

UM, SEEMINGLY MINOR ELEMENTS OF THE HOME ORDINANCE OFTEN BECOME COMPLICATED IN PRACTICE.

UM, THIS ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING PORCHES TO PROJECT INTO THE FRONT SETBACK, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THAT GIVES YOU A MORE EX, A MORE ENGAGED STREET SCAPE.

UH, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH MUELLER.

THEY HAVE VERY SMALL FRONT YARDS WITH PORCHES THAT EXTEND IN.

SO I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE.

SO IT MAKES IT OFTEN D DIFFICULT TO COMPLY WITH AND STILL PROVIDE ANY COVERED PARKING FOR MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, SO THE GARAGE PLACEMENT REGULATIONS IN HOME ORIGINATED WITH THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS AND AGAIN, ARE, ARE, ARE COMPLICATED.

UH, SO JUST SIMPLIFYING THIS TO SAY, LOOK, SINGLE CAR GARAGES ARE OKAY, CARPORTS ARE OKAY, AND AVOIDING THIS, THIS COMPLEX PROCESS JUST TO GET A COVERED SPOT FOR EACH UNIT, UM, ISN'T A GOOD IDEA OF JUST, HEY, HOW CAN WE SIMPLIFY THIS? UM, HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, UH, PERHAPS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

UH, AUSTIN ENERGY, UM, PREVIOUSLY PRE HOME HAS A, A CRITERIA MANUAL THAT ALLOWS THEM TO REVIEW THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, PROVIDING POWER TO EVERY PROJECT.

BUT PRIOR TO HOME, ONE TO TWO UNITS OF WHICH I BUILT A LOT OF, UM, DID NOT, WERE NOT REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AT ALL.

THEY WERE EFFECTIVELY EXEMPT.

UM, THAT HAS NOW CHANGED AND NOW EVERY PROJECT, NOT JUST THREE UNITS, BUT TWO UNITS AND EVEN ONE UNIT ARE NOW BEING REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE AUSTIN ENERGY DESIGN PROCESS AND CONSTRUCTION, WHICH TAKES MONTHS TO, TO GET APPROVED AND THEN YEARS TO GET THE TRANSFORMER INSTALLED.

AND, AND THEN ONCE THEY DO, THEY'RE REQUIRING IMPROVEMENTS THAT SERVE MULTIPLE EXISTING HOMES.

AND THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY KIND OF IMPORTANT.

UM, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO DO IS NOT PROPORTIONATE TO OUR INCREASE IN THE LOAD.

WE HAVE TO REPLACE AN OR ADD AN ENTIRE TRANSFORMER THAT MIGHT SERVE SIX, EIGHT, OR 10 OTHER HOMES.

BUT, BUT, BUT THE, THE SINGLE HOME PROJECT IS FORCED TO ABSORB ALL THAT COST IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, SO IT REALLY IS QUITE A BARRIER AND IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE.

UM, NOW THAT ADUS ARE NOT NAMED IN THE CODE, THEY NO LONGER EXIST UNDER THE CODE, UM, WHICH AGAIN IS A TECHNICALITY, AUSTIN WATER IS NOW REQUIRING THAT ALL UNITS, EVEN TINY HOMES INSTALL A SEPARATE WATER METER THAT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S 20, $30,000 FOR EVERY UNIT REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OR ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, SO AS YOU'LL HEAR, THIS NEW POLICY IS EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING AND, AND FRANKLY UNNECESSARY.

A A SUBMETER COSTS A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR COMPARISON.

UM, IT'S STILL NOT CLEAR HOW THOSE ARE GONNA BE ADMINISTERED, BUT, BUT IT'S ALMOST A GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GONNA RAISE COST AND THE TIME FOR APPROVAL FOR TWO AND THREE UNIT HOME PROJECTS THROUGHOUT A HUGE CHUNK OF THE CITY.

UH, SO YET ANOTHER ADDITIONAL REGULATORY BURDEN TO MEET THAT'S RECENT SINCE THE PASSAGE OF HOME.

UM, SO SOME SOLUTIONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ARE REDUCING APPROVAL TIMES BY, BY CONSOLIDATING REVIEWS TO FEWER REVIEWERS.

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UH, WE HAVE NEW REG NEW REVIEWS FROM TRANSIT AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR RIGHT OF WAY FOR EVERY BUILDING PERMIT, UH, FIRE FOR WWE, ET CETERA.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT IT TAKES FOUR PEOPLE TO REVIEW FOUR SETS OF RULES INSTEAD OF ONE PERSON TO REVIEW THE SAME FOUR SETS OF RULES WOULD SEEM TO BE COMMON SENSE.

WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THAT AS WELL, JUST TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE EASIER FOR THESE SMALLER PROJECTS.

UM, WE FEEL LIKE THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, IN TERMS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND IDENTIFYING CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE LDC, WE FEEL LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN BE AN EFFECTIVE MECHANISM FOR THAT.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, TWO UNITS ON A HOME.

TWO SMALL LOT THAT IS A PANACEA FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN AUSTIN.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME AND THAT IS THE HOLY GRAIL IN TERMS OF REALLY UNLOCKING MORE H MORE HOUSING THAT IS MORE AFFORDABLE IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. TURNER.

UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KAI GRAY.

KYLE WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

KAI, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES MOVING FORWARD.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LIZA WIMBERLEY.

LIZA, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

AS MS. WIMBERLEY COMES DOWN, I WANNA RECOGNIZE OUR CRP STUDENTS IN MS. ROSEN BLOOM'S CLASS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

GIVE US A BIG WAVE.

I WAS WONDERING WHO, WHO BACK THERE WAS PAYING MORE ATTENTION THAN EVEN WE WERE UP HERE.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

HEY, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY? HAVE IT GREEN? UH, OKAY.

IT'S, IT'S ALL NEW.

UH, MY NAME IS LISA WIMBERLEY AND I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF AUSTIN INFILL COALITION.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT IT YET.

BETTER.

YES.

I'M LISA WIMBERLEY AND I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF AUSTIN INFILL COALITION.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE A FEW PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH HOME INITIATIVE IN THE HOPE THAT THESE EXAMPLES WILL HELP IMPROVE THE PROCESS.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT.

IT HAS CREATED AN UNNECESSARY BARRIER.

UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.

I HAVE TWO ADJACENT LOTS.

EACH IS 5,600 SQUARE FEET.

UNDER HOME, IT WOULD'VE BEEN EIGHT POSSIBLE TO BUILD SIX HOMES ON THESE TWO LOTS EXCEPT FOR THE 70 57 50 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

THAT NUMBER SEEMS A BIT ARBITRARY TO ME WHEN WE'RE ALREADY REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH FAR IMPERVIOUS COVER SETBACKS AND HEIGHT LIMITS.

IF THE BUILDINGS MEET ALL THOSE STANDARDS, MINIMUM LOT SIZE SHOULD, SHOULDN'T PREVENT ADDITIONAL HOMES.

THE SECOND ONE IS THE GARAGE PLACEMENT TOOL.

UM, IT IS OVERLY COMPLICATED.

UH, THE MEMO ISSUED IN MARCH ONLY ADDED TO CON TO THE CONFUSION ON MY CURRENT PROJECT.

THERE ARE TWO HERITAGE TREES, HERITAGE PECAN TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE MOST PRACTICAL WAY TO PRESERVE THEM IS TO PLACE THE GARAGE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOME AND THE HOME IN THE BACK.

OUR PLAN INCLUDED AN ACCESSORY BUILDING WITH THE CARPORT TO COMPLY WITH THE 50%, UM, THE, UM, THE 50% OF THE FACADE BEING THE GARAGE OR THE CARDBOARD IN THIS CASE.

AND SO WE ALSO HAD A PORCH AND THE FRONT DOOR FOR THE ACCESSORY BUILDING.

BUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T A PRIMARY RESIDENCE, IT WASN'T ALLOWED.

SO THIS LEFT US WITH AN IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE, PRESERVE THE TREES OR BUILD FEWER HOMES.

A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY HERE, COULD PROTECT TREES AND INCREASE THE HOUSING.

UH, FINALLY, HOMES SHOULD APPLY TO ALL SINGLE FAMILY ZONES IN AN ON ANOTHER PROPERTY.

WE ACTUALLY HAD TO DOWN ZONE FROM SF SIX TO SF THREE JUST TO QUALIFY FOR HOME AND BUILD THREE HOMES.

THE MONEY AND TIME SPENT ON REZONING COULD HAVE GONE TO DELIVERING MORE HOUSING.

IN SUMMARY, SMALL ADJUSTMENTS, REMOVING ARBITRARY LOT SIZES, MINIMUMS, SIMPLIFYING GARAGE PLACEMENT RULES AND EXPANDING HOME ACTS ACROSS ALL SINGLE FAMILY ZONES WOULD MAKE THE PROGRAM MORE EFFECTIVE, MORE EFFICIENT, AND MORE RESPONSIVE IN REAL WORLD CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERING THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CODY CARR.

CODY, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

MY NAME IS CODY CARR.

I'M A HOME BUILDER HERE IN AUSTIN.

AND, UH, SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE AUSTIN IN INFO COALITION AND THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.

UH, THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH FOR TAKING UP THIS ITEM TONIGHT.

I'M GONNA TALK OFF THE CUFF JUST VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE.

UM, BUILDING UNDER THE HOME ACT HAS BEEN A, A GOOD JOY.

WE'VE ABLE TO BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE, UH, SEVERAL HOME ACT PROJECTS THAT HAVE GENERATED MORE HOMES THAN OTHERWISE WOULD'VE BEEN AVAILABLE.

SO IT'S REALLY HAD A POSITIVE EFFECT.

UM, AS SCOTT MENTIONED, THERE'S THERE'S CORKS AND KINKS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT, AND THERE'S SORT OF THIS GENERAL FEELING THAT THE DEPARTMENTS THEMSELVES HAVE, UM, CLAMPED DOWN ON ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

SO WHERE, WHEREAS THESE PROJECTS WERE MEANT TO BE SITE PLAN EXEMPT, THERE'S THIS FEELING THAT THE SCOPE CREEP FROM SITE PLAN IS ENTERING THE SMALL PROJECT SPACE.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE A COUPLE QUICK EXAMPLES.

I'M REPLACING A SINGLE HOUSE THAT WAS THERE FOR ABOUT 70 YEARS, BEING SERVED BY AUSTIN ENERGY WITH A SINGLE HOUSE, A

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TH A THREE BEDROOM, MODEST HOUSE UNDER 2000 SQUARE FEET.

AND, UM, I'M BEING ASKED TO INSTALL NEW POLES, NEW TRANSFORMERS.

I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT BECAUSE 13 OTHER HOUSES FEED OFF THE TRANSFORMER AND I'M THE LAST ONE TO JOIN, EVEN THOUGH THE ORIGINAL HOUSE HAD BEEN THERE, THAT THE COST SHOULD BE BORN SOLELY BY ME.

IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT $12,000 LIKELY FOR THAT TRANSFORMER.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WEREN'T EVEN REQUIRING, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE NEW REQUIREMENTS ON THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.

UM, JUST WANNA SAY, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF LOOK AT HOW THINGS HAVE, HAVE PLAYED OUT THROUGH HOME AND, AND RECALIBRATE IT AND JUST MAKE SURE IT'S STILL FUNCTIONING SO THAT BUILDERS ARE INCENTIVIZED TO BUILD TWO OR THREE UNITS INSTEAD OF JUST BUILD A SINGLE HOUSE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID WHITWORTH.

DAVID, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS DAVID WHITWORTH.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN INFO COALITION HOME BUILDER.

UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT PICTURE, UH, THE CCDS, I THINK WHEN HOME GETS REVISED HOME SHOULD SAY THAT IT SUPERSEDES, UM, CCDS.

THE PARTICULARLY CCDS HAVE, UM, THEY CITE THE BASE CODE, BUT INSTEAD OF CITING SECTIONS, THEY CITE THE 57 50 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUM.

THEY CITE THE 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUM FOR TWO UNITS.

UH, SECOND UNIT CAN ONLY BE 850 SQUARE FOOT SETBACKS, PARKING.

THERE'S A LOT OF OLD BASE CODE IN THE NCCS THAT PROHIBITS US FROM, OR PREVENTS US FROM BEING ABLE TO DO HOME IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH CCDS, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS A LOT OF THE SMALL LOT ORIGINAL, UH, URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, THIS DRAWING HERE IS, UH, JUST AN EXAMPLE, A VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF, UM, TAKING ONE LOT ON THE LEFT, SUBDIVIDING IT INTO TWO LOTS ON THE RIGHT AND YOU CAN SORT OF SEE IT, BUT THE WATER AND SEWER SERVING THE ORIGINAL HOUSE FINE.

IT, IT AVOIDS THE HERITAGE TREE, BUT THE WATER AND SEWER SERVING THE UNITS IN THE RIGHT IMAGE.

UM, IN ORDER TO GET AROUND THAT HERITAGE TREE, YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE LOT LINE.

AND THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE DOES ALLOW THIS.

YOU, WHEN YOU'RE SUBDIVIDING, YOU JUST PUT AN EASEMENT OVER THAT AND YOU CITE THE HERITAGE TREE AS YOUR, UH, PROPER CAUSE I THINK IT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED.

BUT, UH, CIRCLED IN RED YOU CAN JUST SEE SUBDIVISION COMMENTS SAYING YOU CAN'T, UH, CROSS LOT LINES A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, UM, THIS IS THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE FOR WATER THAT SAYS YOU CAN CROSS LOT LINES WITH PROPER CAUSE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AN EASEMENT.

AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE FOR SEWER.

UM, SAYING YOU CAN CROSS LOT LINES.

SO WE HAVE ALL THESE TOOLS THAT ARE IN THE CODE THAT WE ADOPTED, AND THAT LINK AT THE BOTTOM WAS JUST THAT WE HAVE AN AMENDED, UH, THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE LOCALLY, BUT WE DON'T ALLOW IT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TAYLOR JACKSON.

TAYLOR WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

TAYLOR, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.

OR UH, WE ARE GROWING AND IF WE WANT TO GROW, THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REGULATIONS AND THE POLICIES THAT WE PLACE GIVE LESS FRICTION AND PROVIDE A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR US TO BUILD MORE DENSITY SO THAT WE CAN EVEN REDUCE POLLUTION AND PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARROD MUDDLE SHIRAN, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SHARED AL.

I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF AUSTIN INFILL COALITION AND I'M A HOME BUILDER.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU'RE GIVING US TODAY.

UM, ALL MY COLLEAGUES, THEY'VE SPOKEN ABOUT VERY MANY SPECIFIC, UH, ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING AS THIS, UH, HOME ACT IS BEING, UH, ROLLED OUT.

I WANNA TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND SPEAK TO A BROADER, BIGGER PICTURE HERE.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF FEES AND PERMIT FEES AND INSPECTION FEES AND ALL THAT WE PAY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, EVEN COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS, WE ARE PROBABLY EIGHT TO NINE TIMES MORE THAN OTHER COMPARABLE CITIES, INCLUDING DALLAS AND HOUSTON.

THEN IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THEY'RE AGAIN, TYPICALLY 30 TO 50% MORE THAN HOUSTON AND DALLAS, UH, COST PER SQUARE FOOT.

A LOT OF THIS, SOME OF THIS YOU CAN SAY COMES THROUGH MATERIAL COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT EVEN THAT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE.

BUT A LOT OF IT IS THE REGULATION THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND THE AMOUNT OF OBSTACLES THAT ARE PLACED.

AUSTIN IS A CITY THAT IS GROWING AND, UH, WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH.

CITIES EITHER GROW OR CONTRACT.

THERE'S VERY FEW CITIES THAT REMAIN STAGNANT AND REMAIN STABLE.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A THING THAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS.

SO EITHER WE ARE CONTRACTING AS A CITY

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AND HERE IS WHERE YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF, UH, POWER AND DISCRETION TO REDUCE SOME OF THESE POLICIES AND PROCESSES THAT MAKE VERY LITTLE SENSE.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GLENN COLEMAN.

GLENN, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU KINDLY AND, UH, THANK ALL OF YOU FOR TAKING THIS ITEM UP.

WE'RE NOT ASKING GLEN COLEMAN WITH THE AUSTINVILLE COALITION, I WON'T NEED TWO MINUTES.

WE'RE NOT ASKING ALL OF YOU TO TACKLE THESE EXAMPLES, UH, THIS EVENING.

I THINK WHAT, UM, WHAT THESE MEMBERS ARE TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT AS A, UH, AS AFTER WE ADOPTED HOME, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A CASCADE OF CHANGES THAT INFECTED, THAT INFECTED, OKAY, I'LL, I'LL KEEP IT.

THAT IMPACTED OUR TECHNICAL CODES SUCH AS THE PLUMBING CODE OR THE FIRE CODE, OUR CRITERIA MANUALS, SUCH AS THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL AND THE CODE ITSELF, WHICH IS THE MATERIAL THAT Y'ALL SEE.

PRIMARILY THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE RELATIVE ISOLATION.

AND NOW WE HAVE CROSSFIRE.

WE HAVE A CHANGE IN ONE PIECE OF THE CODE THAT IM, THAT IMPACTS, UH, AN LDC CHANGE AND THE TWO ARE NOT COMPATIBLE.

AND THE VICTIM OF THAT IS, IS LIVABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO THIS RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS SIMPLY SAYING, COUNSEL, PLEASE HELP, PLEASE ASK STAFF TO HARMONIZE THESE VARIOUS CHANGES AND TO DO SO WORKING TOGETHER INSTEAD OF MAKING THOSE CHANGES IN SILOS, UH, DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT AS IT WOULD APPEAR, UH, THAT YOU HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY.

SO, THAT'S IT, THAT'S OUR REQUEST THIS EVENING, AND I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THESE ITEMS OR THIS ITEM.

ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER AHMED SECONDS.

THANKS MS. GARCIA.

OKAY, SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE, THE SMALL TWO PAGE LETTER AND BACKUP.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PASSED HOME AS A BODY AND THEN CITY COUNCIL COMMISS, UH, PASSED IT AS WELL.

AND IT KIND OF APPEARS THAT AS IT WAS GETTING ADOPTED AND GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS THAT IT GETS ADOPTED, THERE WAS A BIT OF A STAFF GRAB BAG GOING ON WHERE JUST A LOT OF NEW THINGS WERE ADDED.

AND OF COURSE, THE, WITH THE GOAL OF BEING ALLOWING FOR SMALLER, MORE EFFICIENT HOMES TO BE BUILT, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT GOT ADOPTED IN THE PROCESS OF ROLLING OUT HOME KIND OF GO AGAINST THAT.

SO THIS IS JUST IF YOU WOULD, A CLEANING OF HOME.

AND WITH THAT, OPEN IT TO ANY QUESTIONS.

IF NO QUESTIONS, GREAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER WOODS OR VICE CHAIR WOODS MOVES APPROVAL.

ALRIGHT, EVERYONE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR HOLD UP WITH YOUR GREEN ITEM OR POINT AT YOUR SHIRT.

CASEY .

ALRIGHT, AND THAT PASSES IS UNANIMOUSLY.

THANKS EVERYBODY AND THANKS EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TONIGHT.

MORE WORK TO DO THAT JUST GETS IT GOING AS YOU KNOW.

ADAM 15.

[15. Discussion and action to conduct officer elections for the Chair, Vice Chair, Parliamentarian, and Secretary. (Sponsored by Chair Anderson and Commissioner Skidmore)]

OFFICER ELECTIONS.

SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, MS. GARCIA, LEMME KNOW IF YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE NOMINATION FOR EACH ROLE AND NO MORE.

CORRECT.

OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW I HAVE VICE, UH, VICE CHAIR WOODS FOR CHAIR PARLIAMENTARIAN HANEY FOR VICE CHAIR SECRETARY MAXWELL FOR SECRETARY AND COMMISSIONER AHMED FOR PARLIAMENTARIAN.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY, HEARING NONE, I'D LIKE TO GIVE EACH OF YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THE NOMINATION AND HEAR WHETHER OR NOT YOU ACCEPT THE NOD.

LET'S START WITH VICE CHAIR WOODS.

I DO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SPEAK MORE TO THAT? UP TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

WELL, I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE NOMINATION AND RECOGNIZE THAT IN FOLLOWING FORMER CHAIR AZAR AND CURRENT CHAIR ANDERSON, I HAVE VERY BIG SHOES TO FILL AND I TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY AND, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THAT CAPACITY AND WORKING WITH OUR WONDERFUL STAFF.

LOVE IT.

PARLIAMENTARIAN HANEY, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOD? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? YOU JUST, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT AS BIG.

NO, EVERYBODY .

I ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.

I'M GONNA KEEP THIS VERY SHORT BECAUSE I'M IN A HO HOSPITAL ROOM WITH MY MOTHER RIGHT NOW.

BUT, UH, UH, I'M, I'M HUMBLED AND LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING.

COMMISSIONER MAXWELL? YES.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE'RE ALL GLAD YOU'RE THERE.

UM, DELIGHTED TO JOIN THE, UM, P SOME FOURSOME OF THIS LEADERSHIP TEAM AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE EXCELLENT WORK OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALONGSIDE OUR GREAT STAFF.

AND THANK YOU TO BOTH OF THE CURRENT PREVIOUS CHAIRS

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WHO'VE DONE SUCH A GREAT JOB LEADING US THROUGH THIS TRANSITION.

EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT.

COMMISSIONER.

AH, AMEN.

I DO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.

UM, THE LAST SIX MONTHS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION HAVE JUST BEEN SO REWARDING.

UH, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO TAKE ON A LEADERSHIP POSITION.

I FEEL LIKE MY BIGGEST CHALLENGE HAS BEEN FIGURING OUT WHEN TO MAKE MOTIONS.

HOW TO MAKE MOTIONS.

SO I GUESS I'M GONNA BE FORCED TO STUDY UP ON THAT AS PARLIAMENTARIAN, SO, YEP.

LOVE IT.

GOOD JOB.

AND I HEAR VICE CHAIR WOODS HAS A ROBERT'S RULES BOOK OF ORDER THAT SHE'S GONNA GIVE TO YOU, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

TEST NEXT WEEK.

OKAY, I'LL MOVE FORWARD.

THE SLATE.

UM, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER POWELL.

UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS GETTING NOMINATED? UH, DO ANY OF YOU WISH TO ABSTAIN FROM YOUR PARTICULAR ROLE? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND LET ME KNOW.

I'D LIKE TO ABSTAIN FROM CHAIR.

I'M LOOKING COMMISSIONER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE OF PARLIAMENTARIAN OR NOT.

UP TO YOU.

I'LL ABSTAIN FROM IT.

AND COMMISSIONER MAXWELL.

AND COMMISSIONER HANEY, WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO, TO VOTE ON YOUR NOMINATIONS OR TO ABSTAIN FROM YOUR NOMINATIONS? I'M HAPPY TO ABSTAIN.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE.

EXCUSE ME.

LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

OKAY, LET'S START WITH, START WITH ME.

SO FOR THE SLATE OF VICE CHAIR WOODS, FOR CHAIR PARLIAMENTARIAN HANEY FOR VICE CHAIR SECRETARY MAXWELL FOR SECRETARY, COMMISSIONER ED FOR PARLIAMENTARIAN COMMISSIONER ANDERSON VOTES.

YES.

COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR WOODS VOTE YES, BUT ABSTAINING ON CHAIR.

UNDERSTOOD.

I'LL NOTE THAT AT THE END.

UH, SECRETARY MAXWELL VOTING ON THE SENATE.

UH, I, YES, I VOTED SUPPORT.

WONDERFUL.

COMMISSIONER LAN, CAN YOU SPEAK YOUR MIND OR WE'RE TAKING INDIVIDUAL VOTES ON THIS? EVERYBODY HAS, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE SLATE? YES.

COMMISSIONER BARRETT RAMIREZ.

YAY.

COMMISSIONER POWELL? YES.

COMMISSIONER AHMED? YES.

ABSTAINING FOR MYSELF.

COMMISSIONER BRITTON ALSO.

YAY.

COMMISSIONER SKIDMORE? YES.

COMMISSIONER HILLER? YES.

ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH VICE CHAIR WOODS UPSTANDING FROM THE VOTE OF CHAIR PARLIAMENTARIAN HANNEY UPSTANDING FROM THE VOTE OF VICE CHAIR SECRETARY MAXWELL UPSTANDING FROM THE VOTE OF SECRETARY AND COMMISSIONER AHMED UPSTANDING FROM THE VOTE OF PARLIAMENTARIAN.

CONGRATS AND THANK YOU ALL.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT YOU ALL SERVING.

THOSE STUDENTS ARE COMING FOR THESE ROLES.

I CAN SEE IT RIGHT NOW.

GO AHEAD AND COVER BOARDS AND COMMISSION WORKING GROUPS.

LET'S

[WORKING GROUP/COMMITTEE UPDATES]

SO LET'S START WITH 16 CODES AND ORDINANCES.

I CAN GIVE AN UPDATE.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING BUT HAVE NOW A MEETING SCHEDULED, A SPECIAL MEETING ABOUT SB EIGHT 40, SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 24TH.

EXCELLENT.

COMMISSIONER, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 8TH.

JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

I HAVE A VERY EXCITING SLIDE DECK ON, UH, CLIMATE BUDGET AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

ALRIGHT.

SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 1ST.

SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.

NO UPDATE GOVERNANCE RULES AND PROCEDURES WORKING GROUP.

I HAVE NO UPDATE THERE.

ALRIGHT.

FUTURE AGENDA

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

ITEMS. COMM CHARM.

YES.

I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, UH, RELATED TO THE LANGUAGE IN DB 90 AND EAD THAT PROHIBITS NON-RESIDENTIAL SPACE ABOVE CERTAIN FLOORS.

UM, THIS ISSUE WAS DETAILED IN AN EMAIL, UH, BY BAILEY HARRINGTON THAT WAS FORWARDED TO STAFF TO PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ON SEPTEMBER 2ND.

UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS LANGUAGE UNINTENTIONALLY COMPLICATES MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR PROJECTS WITH MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, UM, AND COULD POTENTIALLY DISCOURAGE BENEFICIAL RETAIL.

UH, SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A DISCUSSION IN ACTION, UH, ON THIS TO POTENTIALLY AMEND THE CODE TO MAKE DB 90 AND EO EASIER TO USE.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? I'LL SECOND.

COMMISSIONER POWELL.

AND CAN YOU ALL PROVIDE STAFF WITH SOME POSTING LANGUAGE ROUGHLY OR HELP HELP STAFF COME UP WITH POSTING LANGUAGE BY THE NEXT MEETING? OKAY.