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          [ CALL TO ORDER]
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          THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2025, UM, AT AUSTIN CITY HALL, ROOM 1101. 
          SO I'LL START, UM, WITH ROLL CALL. 
          UH, I'M COMMISSIONER NELSON, AND I AM HERE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER AHMED. 
          I BELIEVE HE'S NOT PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER CLINTON NOT PRESENT CURRENTLY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER TIES, UM, COMMISSIONER DANIEL. 
          SHE'S PRESENT. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER FERGUSON, PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER LINDER, I THINK. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER AHMED AND COMMISSIONER ZAES JUST JOINED AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COMMISSIONER LINDER IS HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER HOLT HERE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER HUDDLESTON. 
          COMMISSIONER LOMAN. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER NEER. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER NORTON HERE. 
          AND COMMISSIONER CLINTON. 
          STILL NOT. 
          SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER AHMED. 
          THEY'RE JOINING. 
          I, I STARTED TOO EARLY. 
          I'M HERE. 
          UH, GREAT. 
          COMMISSIONER TIES. 
          COMMISSIONER HUDDLESTON IS HERE. 
          CAN WE, THE DISPLAYS NETWORKING IN FRONT OF ME. 
          ONLY THE ONE BEHIND ME. 
          HI, COMMISSIONER DSES. 
          THIS IS CHRISTY. 
          IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, IF YOU COULD JUST TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND TEST YOUR AUDIO BY SAYING HERE SO WE CAN COUNT YOU AS PRESENT. 
          AND COMMISSIONER AHMED, IF YOU COULD JUST SEND IN YOUR STATEMENT OF CONFLICT OR SIGN THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST SHEET TO COUNT YOUR PRESENCE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, SO WE'LL START WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UM, FROM THE REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. 
          UM, SORRY. 
          WE'LL START WITH PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. 
          [ PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
UM, SUSIE CHASE. 
          GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, CO-CHAIR, AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS SUSIE CHASE. 
          I'M A DISTRICT 10 CONSTITUENT, AND I'M A FORMER CITY COUNCIL STAFF MEMBER. 
          AND I'VE, FOR THE PAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH ANIMAL ADVOCATES IN AUSTIN, IN MY ROLE AT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE. 
          I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO PROPOSE TO YOU, UM, THERE IS AN ITEM COMING UP IN NOVEMBER ON THE BALLOT, AND THAT IS PROPOSITION Q. 
          AND SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL CAN TAKE UP THE IDEA OF WHAT HAPPENS IF PROPOSITION Q FAILS IF IT DOES FAIL. 
          I'M WONDERING WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE OVERNIGHT EMERGENCY VETERINARY SERVICES THAT WE'RE ALLEGEDLY GOING TO BE RESTORED FOLLOWING THE AUGUST BUDGET VOTE BY MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE 48 HOUR PAUSE PERIOD FOR VISIBLY PREGNANT ANIMALS THAT WERE AT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER TO BE TAKEN, UM, BY ANY OF THE NONPROFITS IN AUSTIN, IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE THOSE VISIBLY PREGNANT ANIMALS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO BEN SBY. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME'S BEN SBY. 
          I'M A RESIDENT OF D FOUR, AND I ALSO AM COMING HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT PROPOSITION. 
          QII HAD NO COORDINATION WITH THIS PERSON, BUT FULLY AGREE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE REALLY SHOULD DWELL ON. 
          I'M COMING HERE SPECIFICALLY TO TALK, UH, TO Y'ALL, AND ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO WATCH. 
          I KNOW THE FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT ANIMALS AND THEIR WELLBEING. 
          PAY ATTENTION TO THIS COMMISSION. 
          AND WHEN YOU PULL UP THE CITY'S PAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE BUDGET THAT WAS PASSED THAT, UH, HAS THAT GOING TO THE VOTERS TO FUND THAT 5 CENTS OUT OF THE, IS IT GONNA BE 52 CENTS, IS GONNA BE 57 CENTS? UH, THERE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS $800,000 IN ONE-TIME FUNDING FOR OFFSITE ANIMAL ADOPTION SERVICES TO HELP RELIEVE THE PRESSURE ON AUSTIN ANIMAL 
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SHELTER. 
          WHEN I REVIEW THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THIS COMMISSION BACK IN MARCH, AND THEN THE UPDATE THAT HAPPENED, UH, ON JUNE 9TH, I THINK THIS FUNDING SPECIFICALLY, UH, UH, REALLY DOVETAILS NICELY WITH THE LIVE RELEASE ASPECT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? UH, EXPAND AND ENHANCE ALL PROGRAMS THAT LEAD TO SUCCESSFUL PLACEMENTS FOR ANIMALS AND PROOF CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, AND INCREASE AWARENESS OF A SO AND BUILDING COMMUNITY TRUST. 
          I KNOW THAT THAT FUNDING WILL LEAD TO THIS. 
          PEOPLE WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, WILL GET THESE ANIMALS PLACED. 
          AND I FEAR THAT IF PROP Q DOES NOT PASS THIS FUNDING SPECIFICALLY WILL BE AT RISK. 
          SO I WANTED TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT ANIMALS AND ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION THAT PROP Q NEEDS TO PASS FOR THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS TO BE SPECIFICALLY FUNDED. 
          ALSO, I WILL ADD TO A BROADER CONTEXT, IF IT DOESN'T PASS, WHEN CUTS ARE FACING THE CITY AND THEY'RE HAVING TO CUT ACROSS ALL ASPECTS, WHO IS MORE LIKELY TO BE CUT SERVICES THAT BENEFIT ANIMALS OR SERVICES THAT, THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT HUMANS? AND I DON'T WANT OUR CITY COUNCIL TO BE PUT INTO THAT CORNER. 
          I DON'T WANT ANYONE HAVING TO MAKE THOSE TOUGH CHOICES. 
          UH, I WANT PROPOSITION Q TO PASS EARLY VOTING STARTS, UH, A WEEK FROM TODAY ON THE 20TH, RUNS THROUGH HALLOWEEN, THE 31ST NOVEMBER 4TH ELECTION DAY. 
          UH, TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, NEXT WE'LL HAVE MAX OLIVER, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. 
          I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT TWO OF THE DOGS THAT A A C LEADERSHIP HAVE DEEMED DANGEROUS AND UNFIT FOR ANYTHING BUT RESCUE OR DEATH. 
          ONE OF THOSE DOGS WHOSE NAME IS MILA, WHOM I'VE PERSONALLY WALKED AND TAKEN ON OUTINGS, WAS PLACED ON THAT LIST. 
          AFTER SHE PANICKED DURING A BATH ON THE VERY FIRST NIGHT SHE WAS HOME. 
          HER ADOPTER TRIED TO PICK HER UP AND SHE PANICKED AND FLAILED HER HEAD AND LEGS. 
          AND THE PROCESS. 
          THE PERSON WOUND UP WITH A MINUSCULE SCRAPE ON THEIR HAND TO SAY THAT MILA BIT THIS PERSON, OR TO SAY THAT SHE POSES A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE OF THIS INCIDENT IS A LIE. 
          ON OTHER CASES, URBAN COWBOY, A VOLUNTEER FAVORITE KNOWN FOR HIS PLAYFUL PERSONALITY, LOVE OF FETCH, AND SWIMMING IN THE POOL. 
          HE WAS RECENTLY ADDED TO THE RESCUE. 
          POLI IS NOW ON THE EUTHANASIA LIST. 
          HIS BITE WAS CLASSIFIED AS A DUNBAR TWO, WHICH IS THE LOWEST LEVEL ON THE DUNBAR BITE SCALE, ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO A SCRATCH. 
          THE EUTHANASIA NOTICE DESCRIBES IT AS UNPROVOKED, BUT IT LEAVES OUT CRUCIAL CONTEXT. 
          THE INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED HAD BEEN HARASSING DOGS AND AGITATED THEM EVEN AFTER BEING ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES BY BOTH STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS TO STOP URBAN COWBOYS. 
          BRIEF MOUTHING OF THAT PERSON WAS A STRESS REACTION, NOT AN ACT OF AGGRESSION. 
          THESE BITES WERE ALL THREE PS PROVOKED, PREDICTABLE, AND PREVENTABLE. 
          I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE DECISION MADE TO EUTHANIZE THESE DOGS WAS NOT MADE BY A QUALIFIED ANIMAL WELFARE EXPERT, BUT IT SHOULD NOT TAKE A QUALIFIED ANIMAL WELFARE EXPERT TO REALIZE THAT THESE DOGS ARE NOT DANGEROUS. 
          IF ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ANY EVIDENCE, I MYSELF WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE MULTIPLE PIECES OF VIDEO AND PHOTO EVIDENCE OF MILA AND URBAN COWBOY BEING NOTHING BUT LOVELY, HIGHLY ADOPTABLE DOGS WITH PLENTY TO OFFER, AND I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS DECISION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WE HAVE JULIE OLIVER. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, I WANNA SHARE TWO MAJOR CONCERNS, UM, TONIGHT. 
          UM, THE FIRST ONE, THE BUDGET, UH, THE SHARP INCREASE IN AACS BUDGET AND STAFFING WHILE INTAKE NUMBERS CONTINUED TO DECLINE. 
          THE SECOND, THE ONGOING PROBLEMS WITH THE RESCUE PULL ONLY LIST, AND THE LACK OF QUALIFIED OVERSIGHT BEHIND THOSE DECISIONS. 
          JUST COMPARING THE FISCAL 2019 BUDGET TO THE ONE THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO HEAD INTO 2026. 
          THE BUDGET, UH, SIX YEARS AGO, SEVEN YEARS AGO, WAS $14 MILLION. 
          18,000 INTAKES, 11,000 OF THOSE WERE DOGS. 
          GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, WE HAVE A BUDGET OF 25 MILLION AND $11 MILLION INCREASE OVER THE, OVER THAT TIME. 
          INSTEAD OF HAVING 18,000 INTAKES, WE HAVE 11,000 INTAKES. 
          INSTEAD OF HAVING 11,000 DOGS COMING INTO THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE 5,000 DOGS COMING INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          SO WITH NEARLY DOUBLE THE FUNDING AND MORE STAFF, THE SHELTER IS TAKING IN OVER, OVER 7,000 FEWER ANIMALS THAN IT DID A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          IT RAISES SERIES OF QUESTIONS ABOUT EFFICIENCY, TRANSPARENCY, AND WHETHER THESE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ARE BEING USED EFFECTIVELY TO SERVE THE CITY'S ANIMALS AND RESIDENTS. 
          MY SECOND CONCERN 
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IS THE RESCUE POOL ONLY MEMO THAT WAS SHARED WITH THIS COMMISSION LAST MONTH. 
          WHEN COMPARED WITH RECORDS OBTAINED THROUGH A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST, IT'S CLEAR THE MEMO LEAVES OUT KEY DETAILS AND DEFINITIONS EVEN MORE CONCERNING. 
          NO ANIMAL WELFARE CONSULTANTS, VOLUNTEERS, RESCUE PARTNERS, OR OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS WERE CONSULTED BEFORE IMPLEMENTING IT. 
          THIS POLICY WAS DE DEVELOPED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BY LEADERSHIP WITHOUT INPUT FROM THOSE WHO WORK MOST CLOSELY WITH ANIMALS. 
          ADDING TO THAT, THE INDIVIDUAL CURRENTLY MAKING BEHAVIORAL AND EUTHANASIA DETERMINATIONS HAS NO FORMAL QUALIFICATIONS IN ANIMAL BEHAVIOR OR ASSESSMENT. 
          A FACT CONFIRMED BY ANOTHER PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST. 
          THESE ARE LIFE AND DEATH DECISIONS BEING MADE WITHOUT PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE, AND THAT THE RESULTS ARE DEVASTATING. 
          THE EUTHANASIA NOTICES THAT WENT OUT TODAY ARE MOST DEFINITELY FOR SPACE, NOT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS. 
          YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT MILA AND URBAN COWBOY. 
          ANOTHER DOG TOASTER STRUDEL WAS ADDED TO THE RESCUE PULL LIST BECAUSE HE GOT OVERSTIMULATED AND JUMPED NOT ON A PERSON JUST IN THE AIR, DIDN'T BITE ANYBODY, JUST JUMPED. 
          THESE CASES SHOW A CLEAR PATTERN OF CONSISTENT POOR JUDGMENT, LACK OF PROFESSIONAL OVERSIGHT, AND SELECTIVE PRESENTATION OF FACTS. 
          WHEN POLICIES ARE WRITTEN AND ENFORCED, WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY, WITHOUT CONSULTATION, WITHOUT EXPERTISE, THE ANIMALS AND THE PUBLIC'S TRUST BOTH SUFFER. 
          SO I URGE THIS COMMISSION TO REQUIRE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BUDGET USE AND ANIMAL OUTCOMES. 
          MANDATE THAT QUALIFIED BEHAVIOR PROFESSIONALS HANDLED BEHAVIORAL AND EUTHANASIA DECISIONS. 
          REVISIT THE RESCUE POOL ONLY LIST, UH, POLICY, EXCUSE ME, WITH PUBLIC INPUT AND EXPERT CONSULTATION. 
          AUSTIN'S NO KILL SUCCESS WAS BUILT ON OPENNESS, COLLABORATION, AND COMPASSION. 
          AND IT'S TIME TO RESTORE THOSE PRINCIPLES TO HOW THE SHELTER OPERATES. 
          THANKS SO MUCH. 
          UM, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW YOU KNOW ABOUT, UM, TOASTER STRUDELS, UH, INCIDENT? UM, YES, I CAN SPEAK TO, TO TOASTER STRUDEL PERSONALLY. 
          UM, I WAS THE VOLUNTEER WALKING TOASTER STRUDEL WHEN HE, UM, STARTED JUMPING. 
          I TOOK HIM IN A PLAY YARD. 
          IT WAS A BUSY DAY. 
          IT WAS THE CLEAR THE SHELTERS DAY. 
          SO HE WAS HOUSED IN THE 500 BUILDING. 
          500 BUILDING IS THE BUILDING THAT'S FURTHEST AWAY FROM THE ENTRY, UM, OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. 
          SO HE IS NOT SEEN BY A LOT OF CUSTOMERS TYPICALLY, BUT THIS WAS A VERY BUSY DAY. 
          I WALKED HIM THAT MORNING AND THEN I WAS GONNA WALK HIM RIGHT AS THE SHELTER WAS CLOSING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK THAT NIGHT AND TOOK HIM IN A PLAY YARD. 
          WHEN WE WERE LEAVING, HE JUST JUMPED LIKE, AND HE'S A TALL DOG GAL. 
          HE'S REALLY TALL AND HE'S JUST JUMPING, JUST JUMPING. 
          HE DIDN'T BITE. 
          HE DIDN'T, UM, JUMP ON ME. 
          HIS FEET DIDN'T COME ON INTO CONTACT WITH ME. 
          HE JUST JUMPED. 
          MY SON CAME AROUND AND HE WAS LIKE, HEY, SHOULD I GO GET THE BEHAVIOR TEAM? 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE IN AN ORANGE.DOG. 
          HE WAS A YELLOW.DOG. 
          THERE'S A DOT SYSTEM THERE. 
          ORANGE DOT FOLKS HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT TOOLS AT THEIR DISPOSAL. 
          THEY HAVE TOYS, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREATS TO HAND TO GIVE A DOG. 
          I DON'T DEAL WITH THE ORANGE.DOG. 
          SO I ONLY HAD ONE TYPE OF TREAT. 
          AND I SAID, YEAH, GO GET THE BEHAVIOR TEAM. 
          BEHAVIOR TEAM DIDN'T COME. 
          THE VETERINARY, UH, TEAM DID THE CATCH, PULLED HIM. 
          THEY STUCK HIM IN THE 600. 
          SO HE NEVER CAME OUT AGAIN. 
          AND ROLANDA PUT HIM ON THE RESCUE POOL ONLY LIST. 
          AND THIS DOG, AGAIN, HAD NO BITE IN HIS HISTORY. 
          HE LITERALLY JUMPED IN THE AIR, NOT ON ME, JUST IN THE AIR. 
          BUT YEAH, I CAN, I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO THAT ONE. 
          MAY I OFFER ONE OTHER THING? IT FELT RETALIATORY. 
          IF I MAKE, MIGHT BE HONEST, BECAUSE I DO SUBMIT A LOT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS ABOUT THE SHELTER. 
          IT FELT LIKE THIS IS A DOG THAT I WALK DAILY. 
          AND HE GOT PULLED BECAUSE I WAS WALKING HIM BECAUSE IF AN ORANGE DOT PERSON WAS WALKING HIM AND HE WAS JUMPY, WE SEE DOGS THAT ARE JUMPY ALL THE TIME AT, AT THE SHELTER ORANGE DOT DOGS. 
          THAT'S TYPICALLY PART OF THEIR BEHAVIOR. 
          NONE OF THEM ARE PULLED AND PUT IN SIX HUNDREDS. 
          THIS ONE DOG, ONE DOG WAS, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON CLARIFICATION, WERE SO WERE YOU HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING HIM OUT OF THE PLAY YARD? SO WE WERE LEAVING THE PLAY YARD. 
          I GRABBED HIS LEASH AND HE JUST STARTED JUMPING. 
          IT'S JUST NOT BEHAVIOR I'M TYPICALLY USED TO SEEING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU WERE TRYING TO LEAVE THE PLAY YARD? YEAH, WE WERE TRYING TO LEAVE THE PLAY YARD. 
          WAS HE COMING WITH YOU? YEAH, HE WAS JUST JUMPING ALONG WITH ME. 
          SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU NEEDED TO STOP AND GET, UH, ORANGE DOT. 
          I WOULDN'T STOP AND GET ORANGE DOT. 
          WELL, DID IS IT, IS THAT WHAT I SAID? DIDN'T YOU? SO, OKAY, THEN PLEASE CLARIFY. 
          WE WERE LEAVING THE PLAY YARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I SAID, LET'S GO. 
          AND HE STARTED GETTING JUMPY, UHHUH AND OVERSTIMULATED. 
          I SAID, NORMALLY AN ORANGE DOT PERSON, IF THEY HAD BEEN THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE ALL THESE TOOLS AT THEIR DISPOSAL. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE ORANGE DOT, UH, TRAINING UHHUH. 
          I'M NOT AN ORANGE DOT TRAINED PERSON. 
          AND IN FACT, THE VERY NEXT DAY, THE BEHAVIOR TEAM MADE HIM AN ORANGE DOT. 
          UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, TYPICALLY, IF YOU'RE AN NOR. 
          SO HOW WERE THEY AWARE OF THE INCIDENT? BECAUSE I REPORTED IT. 
          I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE BEHAVIOR TEAM. 
          SO YOU DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE ANYBODY COME HELP YOU GET HIM OUT OF THE PLAY YARD. 
          AND I WANTED BEHAVIOR TEAM TO COME. 
          VETERINARY SERVICES CAME INSTEAD. 
          WELL, WHAT DID YOU NEED BEHAVIOR TEAM TO COME FOR? BECAUSE USUALLY THEY'LL HAVE MORE, AGAIN, TOOLS AT THEIR DISPOSAL TO DO WHAT? TO HELP. 
          WAS HE COMING WITH YOU EASILY? 
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WHY DID YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TOOLS? WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE BEING REALLY AGGRESSIVE RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M JUST, I I SEEMS YOU WERE GIVING AN IMPORTANT UH, I THINK I WAS SUPER CLEAR ABOUT THE GUY GOT OVER THE DOG, GOT OVERSTIMULATED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THERE ARE TOOLS THAT ORANGE SHOT AND BEHAVIOR TEAM HAS THAT I DON'T HAVE. 
          'CAUSE I'M NOT ORANGE SHOT TRAINED. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ROCHELLE VICKERY. 
          HELLO. 
          BOARD. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A SHOUT OUT FOR JEN OVER THERE BECAUSE I KNOW HER BEST INTEREST IS FOR AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, AND I'VE WORKED WITH HER AND SO I KNOW HER. 
          UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT A SITUATION OVER THERE AT THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER. 
          I DID SAY SOMETHING TO MR. ROLANDO, UH, UH, HERE A WEEK AGO. 
          UH, THE MAN OUT IN ELROY HAD HAD A BUNCH OF PUPPIES. 
          I SHOWED HIM THE PICTURES OF THEM. 
          THAT WAS SIX. 
          THEY WAS LEFT IN A BIG BOX AT THE DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          I GOT APPOINTMENTS WITH, UH, JOHN THE, UH, THE LEAD OVER THERE AT PRC AND GAVE THE, THE, UH, THE 24TH OF OCTOBER. 
          AND THEN THE TWO DAYS IN, IN OCTOBER, ONE OF THE PUPPIES FELL OFF THE PORCH. 
          WE'RE ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 
          AND HE COULDN'T WALK ON HIS, UH, ON HER, ON HER LEFT SIDE. 
          COULDN'T STAND ON IT. 
          IN TURN, HE DOESN'T HAVE A CAR. 
          'CAUSE IT GOT STOLEN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. 
          AND I'VE HELPED HIM WITH CATS. 
          BUT HE, HE, HE TOOK THESE DOGS IN WHEN HE SHOULDN'T HAVE. 
          BUT ANYWAY, UM, I, UH, WENT OUT THERE TO GET HIM, UH, GET HIM AND THE DOG TOOK A CAGE AND TOOK IT, BROUGHT IT IN. 
          WE WERE SITTING THERE, UH, UH, RIGHT STRAIGHT ACROSS FROM PRC. 
          MARISSA CAME OUT. 
          THEN, UH, YOLANDA CAME OUT. 
          SHE SAW US SITTING THERE. 
          NOW, SINCE THE SECOND OF, OF THE 3RD OF JULY, I GOT CANNED. 
          AND THAT FIRST THING THAT I WAS TOLD BY ALYSSA WAS THAT I COULD NOT GO TO PRC. 
          AND I SAYS, OH, YES, I CAN. 
          I'M A TAXPAYER. 
          I CAN GO TO PRC IF I'M NOT WORK ON THE CAP PROGRAM OR WORKING AT THE SHELTER THERE. 
          THEY SAID, NO. 
          WELL, WE GOT THAT SETTLED. 
          ANYWAY, I HAVE A FEELING PERSONALLY THAT BECAUSE I WAS THERE WITH JAMES WITH THIS DOG, THEY FINALLY TOOK IT IN AND HE NEEDED FOOD. 
          HE, HE'S NOT A DOG PERSON. 
          AND WHEN YOU GOT SIX PUPPIES, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY WERE ABOUT THREE, FOUR MONTHS OLD. 
          THEY EAT A LOT. 
          ANYWAY, HE ASKED FOR FOOD AND THE GIRL SAYS, I'LL HAVE TO GO INSIDE AND ASK. 
          SHE CAME OUT AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T HAVE NO FOOD. 
          NOW. 
          I KNOW THAT'S A DAMN LIE. 
          THEY HAVE FOOD AT THAT SHELTER, AND THESE ARE DOGS THAT ARE COMING INTO THEM. 
          AND I SAID, YOU CAN'T TELL ME YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FOOD. 
          AND THEY SAID, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FOOD. 
          IT'S ALL DONATED. 
          SO IN TURN, I SAID, JAMES, THAT'S JUST FINE. 
          AND I SAYS, WE WENT TO, UH, TO A PA AND I ASKED FOR DR. JEFFERSON AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU, DR. JEFFERSON, BECAUSE YOUR GROUP GAVE US A 40 POUND BAG AND SIX CANS. 
          AND THEY, THEY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH A, UH, WITH THE PRC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UM, SHELLY, LIE THEM, YOU'VE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          DO YOU WANNA SPEAK NOW OR WAIT UNTIL IT COMES UP? I'LL SPEAK NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO ADD NO WORDS OF TAYLOR SWIFT A LITTLE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS SHELLY LIEBE. 
          I'VE BEEN A CAT VOLUNTEER AT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER SINCE 2018. 
          I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT AGENDA ITEM FOUR. 
          OUR JULY CLINIC FOR GOOD FIX WAS SO SUCCESSFUL AND WAS SO HAPPY ABOUT IT. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THE INCREASED MARKETING AND THE LOCATION. 
          I WANTED TO THANK, UM, IS IT AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES NOW? IS IT NOT A A C ANY LONGER? GOD, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO SAY. 
          AASS MARKETING TEAM AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN PROMOTING THAT CLINIC. 
          SO THE NEXT CLINIC, NOVEMBER 13TH THROUGH THE 17TH IS CLOSE TO WHERE THE DECEMBER 20, 24 1 1 WAS HELD. 
          AND WE DID 1,066 THERE. 
          SO I'M HOPEFUL WE'LL HAVE A GOOD OUTCOME. 
          I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE PRESENTATION TODAY BY AAS S POSTED IN THE BACK OF THIS AFTERNOON THAT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT OUR WORKING GROUP MADE FOR THE LAST CLINIC, PARTICULARLY WITH COMMUNITY CATS. 
          I VOLUNTEERED AT ANOTHER GREATER GOOD CHARITY SPAN ER CLINIC IN EC WASHINGTON LAST MONTH, AND WE DID ALMOST 300 TRAP CATS IN FOUR DAYS. 
          SO THAT, THAT PRE COORDINATION WITH THE GREATER GOOD CHARITIES TEAM AND THE COMMUNITY CATS PROGRAM AND LOCAL 
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TRAPPERS CAN REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          UM, THEY CAN DO CATS REALLY FAST. 
          WE CAN GET A LOT MORE ANIMALS DONE THAT WAY. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE A WORKING GROUP FOR THIS, UM, CLINIC, BUT I'M SURE ALL OF US WHO WERE MEMBERS OF THE LAST ONE WILL BE POUNDING THE PAVEMENT ONCE WE HAVE SOME FLYERS AVAILABLE, WHICH I HOPE WILL BE VERY SOON. 
          UM, AND I ASK THAT EACH MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION, PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE 
          [ APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
AGENDA FOR THE SEPTEMBER, EXCUSE ME, OF THE MINUTES FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. 
          UM, I DID RE-WATCH THE VIDEO AND LOOK THROUGH THESE, AND I DIDN'T FIND ANY ISSUES. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO PASS THESE? UH, COMMISSIONER LINDER AND, UH, SECONDED. 
          YES. 
          BY, UH, COMMISSIONER. 
          YES. 
          SECOND. 
          ANY, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO, 
          [2. Staff briefing regarding monthly reports provided by Rolando Fernandez, Interim Chief Animal Services Officer, Austin Animal Services. ]
UH, STAFF BRIEFINGS. 
          WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM TWO, STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING MONTHLY REPORTS PROVIDED BY ROLANDO FERNANDEZ, INTERIM CHIEF ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          HEY EVERYONE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          ROLANDA FERNANDEZ. 
          INTERIM. 
          I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY NAME WITH THE NEW TITLE CHANGE, BUT, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, UH, I'M SENDING JASON GARZA, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. 
          UH, WELL WISHES, YOU KNOW, HE WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT, UH, HE'S NOT FEELING TO THE WEATHER, UH, UP TO PAR. 
          SO, UH, HOPEFULLY HE'S AT HOME RECOVERING. 
          UM, BUT, UH, I'LL BE COVERING THE INFORMATION TODAY THAT HE LOVES TO COVER, UH, FOR YOU ALL, EVERY MONTH. 
          I THINK, UH, I'M, I'M BREAKING HIS RECORD TODAY. 
          I THINK HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR QUITE A WHILE, UH, LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          IS THAT BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE, YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO YOU ALL. 
          WE ALSO HAVE SOME POWERPOINT SLIDES TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE HIGH LEVEL ALL OUR INFORMATION FOR TODAY. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          NOT WORKING. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          YEP. 
          YOU RIGHT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          SO OUR LIVE OUTCOME RATE FOR SEPTEMBER IS, UH, 94.57. 
          UH, AND THIS IN SEPTEMBER WE HAD 5 41 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED, UM, AND 81 DOGS AND CATS WERE RETURNED TO, UH, THEIR OWNERS. 
          UM, AND WE ALSO HAD, UH, 1,241 ANIMALS IN OUR INVENTORY. 
          SEPTEMBER THROUGH SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          AND THEN THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER, WE HAD 12 MORE ANIMALS IN OUR INVENTORY. 
          SO 12 1,253 ANIMALS. 
          UM, SO WE FELT LIKE WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD MONTH IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES AND, AND, UH, CERTAINLY SAW A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ANIMALS COMING IN THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR CARE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANIMAL PROTECTION, FIELD DATA, UH, RTOS, WE HAD SEVEN. 
          UH, SO THAT'S A FIELD RETURN TO, UH, RETURN TO OWNER, UH, FENCING APPLICATIONS. 
          WE HAD THREE OF THOSE, UH, IMPOUNDED INJURED, 19 IMPOUNDED, REGULAR SICK, 1 0 8, UM, 38, UH, RAB UH, SPECIMENS WERE TAKEN. 
          AND THEN, UH, INFIELD, ORNA SURRENDERS. 
          WE HAD ONE, UM, A LOT OF COYOTE ACTIVITY, UH, 38, AND YOU'LL SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT COMPRISED OF. 
          WE GOT, UH, GREAT NUMBERS FOR OUR VOLUNTEER ACTIVITY. 
          UH, 521 VOLUNTEERS, UH, OVER 6,000, 600 HOURS, UH, FOR, FOR THEIR TIME. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, UM, UH, JUST REALLY HAPPY TO RECEIVE THAT. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA THANK OUR VOLUNTEERS FOR, UH, FOR EFFORT AND, AND TIME. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE THEM COMING IN, UH, IN THE EVENING, UH, THERE IN THE MORNING, UH, WEEKENDS. 
          AND SO JUST REALLY, UH, FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, YOU BET. 
          UM, SINCE THE VOLUNTEERS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD GET A BREAKDOWN? SO WE COULD SEE THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS, LET'S SAY FOR THE CAT PROGRAM AND HOW MANY HOURS THEY CONTRIBUTE, AND THEN THE NUMBER OF DOG VOLUNTEERS AND HOW MANY HOURS THEY CONTRIBUTE. 
          AND THEN, BECAUSE I'M A BIG TNR PERSON MM-HMM . 
          UM, HOW MANY TRAPPERS DO WE HAVE ACTIVE EACH MONTH, AND HOW MANY NUMBER OR HOW MANY HOURS ARE THEY CONTRIBUTING FOR THEIR TRAPPING ACTIVITIES? IT COULD BE DIVIDED UP FROM OTHER THINGS, BUT SPECIFICALLY TRAVELING ACTIVITIES. 
          UM, AND I THINK YOU ALSO HAVE GREETERS, AND THERE'S SOMEBODY, I WAS RECENTLY BRINGING KITTENS TO THE PRC, AND THERE WAS A LOVELY VOLUNTEER THAT CAME OUT TO MAKE SURE I HAD EVERYTHING I NEEDED AND ALL MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED, AND THAT WAS GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND SO JUST BREAKING DOWN WHO THESE VOLUNTEERS ARE, HOW MANY OF THEM THERE ARE, AND HOW MANY HOURS THEY CONTRIBUTE. 
          SO WE 
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KNOW THE REAL IMPACT IN EACH AREA OF THE SHELTER. 
          NO, FOR SURE. 
          WE'LL DO THAT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL REACH OUT TO EACH DIVISION THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT. 
          SO, COMMUNITY CAST FOR THE T-N-R-S-N-R. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO, UH, LOOK TO CHLOE, UH, OUR VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR MM-HMM . 
          UH, UNDER, UH, MARY, UH, BROWN'S LEADERSHIP TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT BREAKDOWN. 
          UM, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT ON, ON THE WEEKLY BASIS, SO EVERY TUESDAY WE HAVE OUR LEADERSHIP MEETING. 
          AND, UH, THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA, SECOND OR THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA, EXCUSE ME, UH, IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT VOLUNTEERS AND REALLY TALKING TO THE DIVISION MANAGERS ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE ALIGNING, UH, THOSE AREA OF INTEREST VOLUNTEERS, UH, WITH THE SPECIFIC DIVISIONS THAT WE NEED, UH, AND VICE VERSA, RIGHT? WHERE THE NEED IS, UH, UH, HAD FOR OUR DIVISIONS, SHARING THAT BACK WITH MARY SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE DO SOME SPECIFIC OUTREACH, UH, FOR OUR EVENTS JUST LIKE WE DO WITH, UH, TO THE SHELTERS EVENT WHERE WE ACT VOLUNTEERS TO COME IN AND, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DEPLOY THEM ALL, LOWER THE SHELTER, AND REALLY BE THAT. 
          UM, I MEAN, WE'RE ESCORTING EVERY VISITOR, UH, THROUGH THE ENTIRE CAMPUS. 
          AND WHEN WE HAVE THAT LEVERAGE AND COMMITMENT FROM OUR VOLUNTEERS, WE KNOW THAT IT GOES REALLY WELL. 
          AND SO HOW DO WE DO THAT MORE OFTEN? BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT GREETER AND THAT, UM, PERSON THAT KNOWS THE SHELTER IS FAMILIAR WITH THE SHELTER BY VOLUNTEERING, UH, THEIR VALUABLE TIME AND, AND EFFORT, UM, YOU KNOW, GOES A LONG WAY. 
          SO WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON A WEEKLY BASIS SO THAT WE CAN, UH, ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES, MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT. 
          THAT ARE BASED ON OUR NEED THROUGHOUT THE SHELTER. 
          BUT GOING BACK TO YOUR SPECIFIC REQUEST, ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WE HAD FOUR ORIENTATIONS, INTRODUCING 137 POTENTIAL VOLUNTEERS, UH, 15 COMMUNITY SERVICE, UH, RESTITUTION INDIVIDUALS TO REFORM 224.5 HOURS. 
          AND SO A LOT OF THAT REALLY GOES INTO LIKE OUR, OUR LAUNDRY AREA AND OUR, OUR DISH WASHING, UH, SPACE. 
          AND THEN 20 INDIVIDUALS DONATED 56 HOURS TOWARDS GROUP VOLUNTEER SERVICES THROUGH DOG WALKING, UH, AND CAT CARE. 
          UH, ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, YOU KNOW, AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT, UH, WE LEVERAGE THE VOLUNTEERS FOR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR, UH, IN-HOUSE DOG WALKERS, BUT, UM, WE KNOW THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, DO THE LEVEL OF ENRICHMENT THAT WE WANNA PROVIDE FOR, FOR ANIMALS. 
          SO THIS, I MEAN, IT'S GREAT TO GET THAT LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN SOCIAL MEDIA IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE, WE CATCH AND, AND, AND DO A LOT OF THAT UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF, UH, ELIZABETH FERRE, UH, AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS MARKETING STRATEGY PLAN. 
          SO 1.4 MILLION PAGE VIEWS, UM, YOU KNOW, 438,000 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND EVEN I, UH, LOOK AT OUR, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT, WHICH IS LIKE SAYING A LOT. 
          'CAUSE I TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT RASCAL. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THIS EFFORT. 
          WE WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHO WE HAVE AT OUR SHELTER, UH, FOCUS ON SPECIFIC ANIMALS AND, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO DO MORE OF THIS KIND OF STUFF AS, AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GET, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORKING TOGETHER AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM AND REALLY, UH, FOCUSED ON THIS MISSION OF OUTCOMES FOR ALL OF ANIMALS. 
          SO, UM, JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          ROLANDO, UH, THIS IS . 
          I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DO YOU, DO YOU GUYS CORRELATE, UM, THE SOCIAL MEDIA? LIKE, YOU, YOU HAVE THE NUMBER OF PAGE VIEWS, UNIT INDIVIDUALS. 
          DO YOU CORRELATE THAT TO THE OUTCOME WITH ADOPTIONS? I I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE LIKE A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE LIKE A SPECIFIC FORMULA THAT WE LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THIS NOT MUCH OF A ADVERTISEMENT, SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, OUTREACH. 
          AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I, I CAN, I CAN SEE THAT WHEN WE DO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, LIKE, UM, LIKE THE TAYLOR SWIFT TRIBUTE RECENTLY FOR, UH, AND THEN OUR CLEARLY SHELTER SIGNIFICANT EVENTS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF ROBUST, UM, ACTIVITY THAT GOES OUT, UH, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, IN TERMS OF GETTING THE ATTENTION AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SUCCESSFUL EVENTS. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK, SO I THINK OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, UM, WITHOUT LOOKING AT DATA, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT AND THE MORE WE DO THIS AND, AND THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, MAYBE WHEN ELIZABETH GETS UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR, OUR, OUR PLAN FOR A GOOD FIX, WE CAN ASK FOR THAT, BUT, OR WE CAN GET BACK TO Y'ALL, UH, IN WRITING WITH SOME MORE, UH, FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. 
          RIGHT? MAYBE COMPARING WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR ON SOME OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TRADITIONAL EVENTS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR, MAYBE LOOKING BACK AT LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT THOSE RESULTS WERE AND WHAT WE DID MEDIA-WISE. 
          AND IF WE GROW OUR MEDIA PRESENCE, YOU KNOW, DO WE SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, INGROWTH FROM OUR NUMBERS, RIGHT? MAYBE THAT'S ONE WAY TO ANECDOTALLY LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE IMPACT THAT OUR, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA IS HAVING, UH, ON THAT. 
          BUT, UH, I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO RAISE AWARENESS AND, AND RAISE THE NEED THAT WE HAVE OR OUR ANIMALS HAVE IN OUR CARE, UM, AND IT DOESN'T HURT US, RIGHT? AND SO WE, WE WANT TO DO THAT AND DO THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU BET. 
          NEXT SLIDE IS OUR FOSTER AND RESCUE GROUP. 
          UM, IN SEPTEMBER, 20 DIFFERENT RESCUE PARTNERS PULLED A TOTAL OF 2,212 ANIMALS FROM THE AUSTIN ANIMAL SHELTER, UH, 384 DIFFERENT PEOPLE, FAMILIES FOSTERED. 
          UH, CURRENTLY, UH, SINCE OCTOBER 2ND, WE HAVE A 348 ANIMALS IN OUR FOSTER PROGRAM, 
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UH, OF, UH, 35 ANIMALS WHO WERE PART OF THE FINER TO FOSTER, UH, MORE THAN A HUNDRED ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTED DIRECTLY FROM MARCH FOSTER, UH, PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S ONE AREA THAT WE, THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT INTERNALLY, YOU KNOW, RAISE ATTENTION TO AND, AND TRY TO STRIVE FOR MORE. 
          UH, 190 APPLICANTS, UH, WERE PROCESSED AND THEN OVER A THOUSAND, UM, PEOPLE IN OUR PROGRAM ARE, ARE READY TO DO THAT. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR US, YOU KNOW, THAT CHALLENGE IS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET THAT 3 48, RIGHT? UM, MORE AND MORE EVERY, UH, EVERY MONTH KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE A DEEP BENCH. 
          AND, AND WHAT'S THE MISSING LINK? UH, WHAT'S THE MISSING, UM, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF AN ACTION THAT WE CAN GET OUR FO THOSE THAT ARE WAITING ON THE BENCH TO KIND OF STEP IN AND, AND GET SOME PLAYTIME WITH OUR DOGS AND CATS, RIGHT? AND ACTUALLY FOSTER THEM, UH, FROM OUR PROGRAM. 
          AND SO, UH, LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL, UH, VET SERVICES IS OUR NEXT SLIDE, 565 SPAY NEUTER, UH, SURGERIES WERE PERFORMED IN, IN OUR, IN OUR, IN OUR PROGRAM, UH, IN SEPTEMBER, UH, OVER 1600, UH, VACCINATIONS, UM, OR ANIMALS WERE, THAT WERE VACCINATED. 
          UH, WE HAD 38 ANIMALS THAT WERE EUTHANIZED, UH, IN JULY. 
          UM, WAIT, I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE SEPTEMBER, EXCUSE ME, UH, 35 FOR SEVERE INJURY, NEUROLOGICAL, UM, UH, OTHER ITEMS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN ONE FOR QUARTER EUTHANASIA AND TWO FOR AGGRESSION, PUBLIC SAFETY RISK. 
          THAT'S, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT, AT A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY. 
          UH, YOU ALL HAVE THE BACKUP REPORT. 
          UH, THIS IS JUST AN EXTRACTION OF THOSE HIGH LEVEL THINGS. 
          AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PART BEFORE WE TRANSITION OVER TO, UH, THE NEXT TIME ON THE AGENDA. 
          COMMISSIONER LOMAN, UM, CAN I ASK, UM, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UM, RESCUE POOL LIST? YEAH. 
          UM, ARE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE DOGS THAT ARE ON THE RESCUE PULL LIST RIGHT NOW? WHEN YOU SAY THE RESCUE POOL LIST, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RPL? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, POINT OF ORDER. 
          IT'S NOT A ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, SO IT CAN'T BE DISCUSSED, SO I CAN'T ASK ABOUT IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CAN WE, UM, NOW YOU CAN ASK, YOU CAN ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION LIKE HOW MANY ARE ON THE PULL LIST, BUT YOU CAN'T GO INTO A DEEP DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RESCUE PULL LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW DO WE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR GOING ABOUT GETTING THAT POTENTIALLY ADDED FROM NOW ON TO THESE MEETINGS THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT? WE CAN'T KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA AS A REMAINING ITEM, BUT YOU CAN PUT IT ON EVERY MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          AGAIN, JUST REMAIN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANOTHER QUESTION, THIS MAY FALL ON THE SAME THING, BUT I JUST WANT TO GET IT IN THERE, UM, FOR THE SAME REASON, UM, WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, UM, CURRENT SITUATION WITH SHELTER BUDDY. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE, AN AGENDA, BUT IT'S FINE. 
          YOU CAN, IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          YOU CAN, WHAT YOU CAN PERHAPS SAY IS, I NOTICED ON THE REPORT THAT THE DATA IS NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE DUE TO SHELTER. 
          BUDDY. 
          CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA? WELL, MY QUESTIONS ABOUT SHELTER BUDDY ARE CONSIDERABLY MORE INVOLVED IN THERE AND I'D LIKE TO NOT WATER THEM DOWN. 
          SO, OKAY THEN. 
          AND IF WE NEED TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA, THAT'S GREAT. 
          YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          COOL. 
          WE'LL DO THAT. 
          UM, AND I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER DANIEL, I DIDN'T GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 
          THIS IS YOUR FIRST MEETING. 
          THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING AND BEING HERE WITH US. 
          WILL YOU PLEASE GIVE A LITTLE INTRODUCTION? OKAY. 
          I CAN GIVE AN INTRODUCTION. 
          SO MY NAME IS JEN DANIEL, AND, UM, LET'S SEE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? IS IT GREEN? IT IS GREEN. 
          OKAY, EXCELLENT. 
          IS THAT BETTER? UM, SINCE THE PLAN IS TO BE HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS ON THIS COMMISSION, UM, GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UH, STAFF AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND OUR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE A PA AND OF COURSE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO MY PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND IS IN PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          I'VE WORKED LIKE 20 YEARS IN PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, MASTER'S IN PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, DOING LIKE EPIDEMIOLOGY, OUTBREAKS, DATA, UM, RUNNING VACCINATION CLINICS IN SCHOOLS HERE IN TEXAS. 
          SO THE FOCUS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, OF COURSE, IS DATA AND PREVENTION. 
          AND SO THAT IS A LENS THAT I WILL BE LOOKING AT THE ISSUES THAT COME TO THIS, THIS COMMISSION. 
          I'LL BE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, PREVENTION AND, UH, THE DATA FOR THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MY PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND. 
          I AM NOT FROM AUSTIN SHOCKER, UH, OR TEXAS. 
          I'M ACTUALLY FROM A TINY, TINY TOWN IN RURAL OKLAHOMA. 
          UH, MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO AUSTIN IN AUGUST OF 2015. 
          WE LIVED IN EAST AUSTIN, LIKE RIGHT OFF 180 3. 
          A COUPLE EXITS JUST NORTH OF THE SHELTER. 
          AND THEN IN 2019 WE BOUGHT A HOME IN NORTH AUSTIN WHERE WE CURRENTLY RESIDE. 
          SO THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE IN AUSTIN. 
          WASN'T MY FIRST TIME IN TEXAS. 
          I WENT TO UNDERGRAD IN DALLAS AT SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY. 
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SAID I'D NEVER COME BACK TO TEXAS, NEVER SAY NEVER. 
          UM, MY EXPERIENCE WITH ANIMALS, UH, LIKE MANY OF US HERE IN THIS ROOM, UH, GREW UP WITH THEM AND BEING IN, YOU KNOW, DOGS AND CATS AND THEN BEING IN RURAL OKLAHOMA, THE NEIGHBORS HAD HORSES. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR HAD LIKE FIGHTING ROOSTERS AND THERE WERE GOATS RUNNING AROUND SO, YOU KNOW, LIVESTOCK. 
          AND, UH, EVEN HAD A BABY SQUIRREL. 
          MY GRANDFATHER HAD FOUND ABANDONED AND WE RAISED IT. 
          SO I HAD A PET SQUIRREL FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          TELL ME, YOU'RE FROM OKLAHOMA WITHOUT TELLING ME YOU'RE FROM OKLAHOMA. 
          UM, SO JUST EXPERIENCE WITH ANIMALS. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE WERE LIVING IN EAST AUSTIN, TWO LITTLE PUPPIES SHOWED UP AT OUR FRONT DOORSTEP. 
          WE DID ALL THE THINGS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          AND, UM, ONE OF 'EM CAME DOWN WITH PARVO AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          IT WAS PRETTY LATE IN, IN THE DISEASE. 
          AND WE FINALLY GOT APPROVAL TO TAKE HER TO A PA AND SHE PASSED ON THE WAY THERE. 
          A COUPLE DAYS LATER, THE OTHER PUPPY HUDSON CAME DOWN WITH PARVO AND UM, WE TOOK HIM TO AN EC AND WE SAW HIM THROUGH TREATMENT. 
          AND I'M GLAD TO SAY THAT HE'S 95 POUNDS AND SPOILED ROTTEN LIVING WITH MY FATHER-IN-LAW IN ALBUQUERQUE. 
          SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A GOOD SAM TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING WHEN THESE ANIMALS JUST SHOW UP AND WHAT DO YOU DO? AND THE SHELTER WAS LIKE, WE'RE FULL. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT MICROCHIPPED, CAN YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM? AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. 
          BUT REALLY WHAT GOT ME INVOLVED, AND I'M GONNA KEEP GOING 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO KNOW, MY BACKGROUND IS, UM, THE CATS ALL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY KEPT HAVING KITTENS AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON? UM, WHO OWNS THESE CATS? THIS WAS MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH COMMUNITY CATS. 
          UM, SAW SOME NEIGHBORS TRAPPING THEM, SOME OF THE CATS RETURNED. 
          THOSE THAT RETURNED HAD A CLIPPED DEER. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? DID A LITTLE GOOGLE FOUND AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTERS COMMUNITY CATS PROGRAM COORDINATOR AT THE TIME LOANED ME A TRAP. 
          SO I TRAPPED THE MAMAS CRAWLED UNDER THE HOUSE AND COLLECTED ALL THE KITTENS. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM PRETTY SICK, UM, GOT 'EM TO THE SHELTER MOMS WENT THROUGH SNR AND I WAS ASKED, DO YOU WANNA BE A VOLUNTEER? AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, I'M GETTING READY TO MOVE, BUT IF THERE'S CATS IN MY NEW NEIGHBORHOOD, YES I'LL DO IT. 
          BUT I MOVED TO NORTH AUSTIN AND GUESS WHAT? LOTS OF COMMUNITY CATS. 
          SO FOR TWO YEARS I WAS VERY ACTIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I WAS RESEARCHING TNR AND FOUND OUT DOING TARGETED TRAPPING WAS REALLY HOW TO MAKE A BIG IMPACT. 
          SO I FOCUSED ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          COUPLE YEARS LATER, HUNDREDS OF CATS DONE. 
          UH, I ACCEPTED A POSITION TO MANAGE THE COMMUNITY CATS PROGRAM AT A A C AND I DID THAT FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS. 
          GAVE MY HEART AND SOUL TO THAT PROGRAM. 
          UM, LAST SEPTEMBER I HAD TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISION ON WALKING AWAY. 
          UM, IT STILL FOLDS UP MY HEARTSTRINGS 'CAUSE IT WAS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT WORK. 
          UM, BUT IT WAS A CHOICE I HAD TO MAKE FOR MY OWN WELLBEING. 
          SO I STILL BELIEVE IN THE WORK. 
          UM, STILL A CURRENT VOLUNTEER, UM, TRAPPING ON THURSDAY, HELPING MY NEIGHBORS OUT WITH THE COLONY. 
          WE'RE UP AT 15 CATS FIXED RIGHT NOW. 
          AND ALSO DURING THAT TIME I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING AT EVERY SINGLE GOOD FIX CLINIC EVERY ROUND, EVERY DAY FROM FIVE HOURS TO 14 HOURS BECAUSE OUR WAY OF GETTING OUT OF THIS OVERPOPULATION OF PETS, THIS CRISIS SPAY NEUTER. 
          UM, I DO HAVE TO SAY I DIDN'T VOLUNTEER EVERY DAY AT THE FIRST CLINIC BECAUSE I WAS STILL WORKING AT A A C SO I HAD TO DO THE JOB. 
          UM, IN APRIL I WAS GOING THROUGH RADIATION TREATMENT FOR BREAST CANCER. 
          SO I DIDN'T HAVE THE ENERGY TO BE AT EVERY CLINIC. 
          DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT CLINIC BECAUSE IT IS IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS. 
          7, 8, 7, 5 8. 
          UM, SO I WILL BE PASSING OUT FLYERS ONCE WE GET THEM ALL OVER THE FIVE EIGHT AND FIVE THREE. 
          I DON'T THINK PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THAT AREA ENOUGH. 
          THERE ARE LOTS OF ANIMALS, DEFINITELY LOTS OF COMMUNITY CATS. 
          SO I WILL BE ACTIVE WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN JUST ON THE PERSONAL NOTE, UM, 'CAUSE EVERYBODY LIKES TO KNOW WHAT ANIMALS YOU HAVE AT HOME, IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE CAT DISTRIBUTION CENTER, KINDLY LET THEM KNOW I'M AT CAPACITY BECAUSE I HAVE TINY DANCER, PURPLE BONES, SNACKS, MITZI AND COOPER. 
          SO THAT'S SIX CATS THAT I HAVE. 
          UM, BUT I'M NOT JUST A CAT PERSON. 
          I HAVE TWO PETTIES SELMA'S, OUR ELDER GIRL FROM THE ALBUQUERQUE SHELTER AND PIG IS OUR FOSTER FAIL FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER. 
          UM, ALSO HAVE BACKYARD HENS. 
          I'VE BEEN RAISING THOSE OR CHICKENS 'CAUSE I'VE HAD A COUPLE ROOSTERS, UM, SINCE 2012. 
          I'M DOWN TO TWO. 
          ONE OF 'EM IS GONNA BE 10 YEARS OLD IN DECEMBER. 
          SHE'S A OLD LADY. 
          UM, AND I'M ALSO OBSESSED WITH CATERPILLARS. 
          I HAVE A POLLINATOR GARDEN THAT GROWS EVERY YEAR, AND I JUST LIKE TO SEE THE CATERPILLARS AND GIVE THE BUTTERFLIES THAT STARTED WITH MONARCHS, OF COURSE. 
          UM, AND JUST HELPING THEM HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE THEIR LIFECYCLE. 
          AND RIGHT NOW THE MONARCHS STOPPING BY TO TO FUEL UP ON THEIR WAY TO MEXICO. 
          SO THAT IS WHO I AM. 
          THAT IS MY BACKGROUND. 
          UM, I WAS REALLY EXCITED WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER CRYSTAL LANE'S OFFICE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, WE SAW YOUR RESUME. 
          WE THINK YOU WOULD BE 
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GREAT ON THIS COMMISSION. 
          I SAID, SURE, LET'S DO IT. 
          SO I AM HONORED TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION AND MY GOAL IS TO SERVE AND HAVE A, A STRONG VOICE FOR THE ANIMALS AND NOT JUST ANIMALS, BUT THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO CARE ABOUT THEM. 
          AND THAT IS MY GOAL, TO DO MY BEST FOR THAT. 
          SO I'M JEN AND THAT'S MY FULL STORY, . 
          OH, THAT'S AWESOME. 
          BUT MY QUESTION, LET'S SEE, WHAT WAS IT NOW, ROLANDO OF COURSE IT'S . 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UM, FOR THE TRANSFERRED ANIMALS, I SAW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A HS ON THERE, AND OF COURSE THIS IS GONNA BE A-T-N-R-S IN OUR QUESTION. 
          THERE WAS A FOOTNOTE ON ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT SAID INDICATES 44 CATS THAT WENT TO A HS FOR S-N-R-T-N-R SERVICES. 
          I'M ASSUMING TNR IS A TYPO, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S DONE OUTSIDE OF THE SHELTER. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          AND ALSO, CAN WE GET THE TNR NUMBERS IN THE REPORT PLEASE? OKAY. 
          I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY CATS ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE, SORRY. 
          IT WON'T LET ME DO THE RAISE HAND FEATURE THROUGH THE WEBEX. 
          THAT'S, IF IT'S OKAY, FINE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UM, I HAVE A COMMENT AND THEN A, A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          AND I AM KIND OF UNCLEAR ON WHAT IS ALLOWED FOR QUESTIONS. 
          SO IF I ASK ANY THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED, STOP ME AND I'LL, I'LL SAVE IT FOR ANOTHER TIME. 
          UM, MY COMMENT IS, ROLANDA, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO INCREASE FOSTER PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, I KNOW LA TWO YEARS AGO EXPLORED PAYING FOSTERS. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT MONEY IS TIGHT. 
          I AM NOT NECESSARILY ADVOCATING FOR THAT, BUT I AM JUST PRESENTING IT AS AN OPTION FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT THERE IN THE WORLD. 
          AND I'M UNSURE HOW THAT PROGRAM IS BEING IMPLEMENTED OR ANY OF THE DETAILS OF IT. 
          BUT JUST A THING TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, I WAS WONDERING FOR THE DOGS THAT WERE ON, I'M A, I'M ASKING FOR BOTH RPL AND FOR UPL FROM THIS LAST MONTH, HOW MANY DOGS WERE PULLED BY RESCUES? UM, FROM THOSE TWO LISTS FOR THE LAST MONTH? YEAH. 
          ALL OF THEM. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          FOR THE LAST ONE WE HAD. 
          SO THE TWO, WE HAD TWO. 
          YEP. 
          AND WE HAD THREE IN THE RPL UHHUH ONE DID NOT MAKE THE RPL TWO WERE ON THE RPL FOR THE 48 HOUR NOTIFICATION. 
          THEY WERE BOTH PULLED. 
          AND THEN THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE RPL NIKKI WAS ALSO PULLED. 
          MM-HMM. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          UM, HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN, SO WHAT IS OUR, CAN YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT AL INITIAL TO MEAN, WE INTERRUPT. 
          CAN YOU POINT OF ORDER COMMISSIONER DEES PREVIOUSLY TO ME BEING CHAIR, EVERYBODY ALWAYS ASKED FOR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM THE CHAIR BEFORE THEY STARTED SPEAKING. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THAT. 
          WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF COMMISSIONER HOLT'S QUESTION AND COMMENT AND YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND AFTER AND BE CALLED ON AFTER THAT. 
          YES. 
          THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. 
          I NOTICED THE MEETING, NOBODY WAS RAISING THEIR HAND OR, BUT I WILL DEFINITELY ASK FOR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. 
          I JUST HEARING A LOT OF INITIALS ABBREVIATIONS HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. 
          AND SO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'RE TALKING, THIS IS PART OF PRESENTATION ON LAST MONTH'S MEETING. 
          I, I, I KNOW YOU WERE NOT HERE FOR THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THAT MEETING, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, QUITE INFORMATIVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          UM, I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION. 
          SO, AND THIS IS KIND OF RELATED TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY ROCHELLE VICKERY. 
          CAN YOU CLARIFY, OR ROLANDO, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR, UM, UTILIZING THE RESOURCES FROM THE PRC AND FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE PET FOOD PANTRY? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL GIVE IT MY BEST SHOT AND IF I'M LACKING, UH, SOME DETAILS ON THAT ONE, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT BACK AND, AND WRITING TO Y'ALL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO OUR GOAL AT THE PRC UH, PET RESOURCE CENTER, UH, FOR, FOR EXPLAINING THE ACRONYMS IS TO, UH, WHEN WE HAVE A OWNER SURRENDER OR FINDER SURRENDER, OR ANYBODY THAT, UH, SHOWS UP, UH, NEEDING ASSISTANCE IS TO PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE SO THAT WE CAN HELP, UH, THAT PERSON, YOU KNOW, UM, BECOME, UH, KEEP THAT ANIMAL WITH THEM, UH, A LITTLE LONGER OR BECOME THE NEW OWNER OF THAT ANIMAL SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE BEST, UH, THE INTAKE OF, UH, ALL THE ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE COMING UP, WHETHER THEY'RE SCHEDULED OR JUST SHOWING UP TO, UH, TO, UM, TO THE SHELTER. 
          UM, I, I HAD FOLLOWED UP AND I JUST NEEDED TO FOLLOW UP AGAIN AND GET A RESPONSE ON WHY THAT MAYBE WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          I JUST DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS. 
          I, I DID, UH, RUN INTO MS. ROCHELLE THAT EVENING AND THEN, BUT IT WAS LATE 
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IN THE EVENING. 
          AND SO, UM, OUR PRC WAS ALREADY, UH, DONE WITH AT THAT TIME TO YEAH. 
          AND SO I JUST NEED TO GO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          BUT OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES, UH, FOR FOLKS TO MA UH, MAINTAIN THE CARE OF THAT ANIMAL. 
          UM, I WILL SAY IN TALKING TO STAFF PREVIOUSLY THERE, THERE'S THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, UM, ARE THEY, ARE THEY COMING AND ASKING FOR RESOURCE RESOURCES BECAUSE LIKE THEY FOUND THE ANIMAL VERSUS MAYBE THEY'RE A, A BREEDER OR LIKE THEY, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. 
          AND SO, UH, MAKING SURE THAT STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT AND BALANCE IT OUT. 
          BUT, UM, AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, IS TO PROVIDE, UH, RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED BY OTHER PERSON TO HELP US MANAGE THAT INTAKE, RIGHT. 
          OR HELP THAT PERSON BECOME THE NEW OWNER, RIGHT? WHETHER THAT'S FOOD, UH, THAT'S VOUCHERS FOR MEDICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER'S NEEDED. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL. 
          SO, UM, THAT ONE'S ON MY LIST TO FOLLOW BACK ON, AND I'M JUST STILL WAITING THE RESPONSE FROM WHY WAS THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, SO, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          COOL, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S NO EXPLICIT INCOME REQUIREMENT OR DOCUMENTATION JUST HAVING AN ANIMAL AND DEMONSTRATING OR EXPRESSING NEED GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE ASTERISK OF TRYING TO TRACK FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE BREEDERS TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM IN GENERAL. 
          AM I CAPTURING THAT CORRECTLY? YES, MA'AM. 
          AND, AND IF, OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, AND I'LL GO BACK AND JUST COME, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF LEARNING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO THINGS. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I'VE, I'VE, I'VE UNDERSTOOD THAT ONE AND LEARNED THAT ONE. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S HOW WE RUN THE PROCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S HOW WE, THAT'S HOW WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE INTAKE, RIGHT? AND, AND REASONABLY WITH THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE'RE NOT ENDING UP WITH, UM, IF WE, IF PROVIDING THE SERVICE TO SOMEBODY SUCH AS FOOD OR A MEDICAL VOUCHER, YOU KNOW, ALLOWS US TO HAVE, UM, MORE SPACE TO INTAKE THOSE THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, CANNOT DO THAT AND, AND DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          EVEN IF WE OFFER, UM, ASSISTANCE, RIGHT? THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE TO DO THAT WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR CARE AND, AND IT'S NOT IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE KENNEL NOT, YOU KNOW, SPACE THAT WE'RE MAKING UP JUST TO, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT SERVICE. 
          SO. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, SORRY, ONE LAST QUESTION. 
          UM, SO LAST TIME YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE, UM, UPL AND RPL, THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST AND THE RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST, SORRY, I'M GONNA TRY NOT TO BE TOO ACRONYM ME. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE MOST CONSISTENT VOICES OF FEEDBACK THAT I THINK YOU HEARD WAS, UM, AND WE SAW SOME IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, WAS AROUND HAVING BEHAVIORISTS OR PEOPLE WHO WERE LIKE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE SPICIER DOGS, UM, WANE. 
          AND ON THE PROCESS, UH, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO MAKE ANY SORT OF PROGRESS ON THAT? OR, OR, OR ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK TO HOW YOU'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT AND MAYBE TRY TO BRING SOME OF THAT EXPERTISE INTO THE FOLD? OR TH THIS WAS THE QUESTION THAT I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GONNA BE ALLOWED TO ASK. 
          SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, STOP ME. 
          BUT, UM, IF THAT, IF THERE HAS BEEN EFFORTS THERE, I'D LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT DOESN'T SEEM RELATED TO THE STAFF BRIEFING ON THE, BUT I'LL SAVE IT . 
          UM, I THINK WE, I THINK THE DIRECTION WAS MAYBE, UH, THE COMMISSION WANTS TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM NEXT MONTH, AND, UM, WE WERE HAPPY TO REPORT THE PROCESS OF, UM, HOW THAT PROCESS RUNS, QUITE HONESTLY. 
          UM, AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH, UH, WHO'S INVITED TO THAT DECISION MAKING, UM, PROCESS. 
          AND I KNOW THERE'S COMMENTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, UH, MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. 
          AND I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO Y'ALL AT A FUTURE COUN, UH, COMMISSION MEETING. 
          UM, AND THEN JASON, THANK YOU. 
          ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE PRC AND THE, AND THE FOOD FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          THE, UM, THE, THE INVENTORY OF FOOD AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IS SEPARATE FROM THE INVENTORY OF FOOD THE SHELTER HAS FOR THE ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WE HAVE FOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, WE CERTAINLY PROVIDE SORT OF A KICKSTARTER FOR FOSTER PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE FOOD FOR OUR, OUR ANIMALS INSIDE. 
          UH, WE HAVE FOOD THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, DIET SENSITIVE BASED ON THE, THE ANIMALS THAT NEED MEDICAL CARE AND SPECIFIC, UH, RESTRICTIONS TO THEIR DIETS. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE FOOD, UH, FOR THAT'S DONATED EMERGENCY PURPOSES. 
          SO I THINK IT'S A, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT FOOD AND, AND CERTAINLY WE WANNA ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR OUR ANIMALS AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE EXTRA OR DONATED FOOD, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WE'RE ABLE TO PASS IT ON TO MAYBE OTHERS THAT ARE IN BIGGER IN NEED THAN WE ARE. 
          SO IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER ES, DID YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION? , YOU'RE MUTED IF YOU'RE, UM, TRYING TO SPEAK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIR, CHAIR, CHAIR PERSON, OR CHAIRWOMAN? UH, UH, I, 
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MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED. 
          I, I ALSO WENT AND LOOKED AT THE MEMO THAT WAS POSTED FROM LAST, THE LAST MEETING, SO THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          CO COMMISSIONER LINDER. 
          UM, YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, TO CLARIFY FOR COMMISSIONER ZEES AND FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS BETWEEN THE RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST AND THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE FOLKS LISTENING AND THOSE TERMS MAY BE NEW TO, UM, TO SOME OF THE NEW FOLKS. 
          I DON'T WANNA SLOW US DOWN TOO MUCH, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST REALLY QUICKLY REMIND US WHAT THE DISTINCTION IS THERE. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE UPL URGENT PLACEMENT LIST AND THE RPL RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST. 
          I WOULD ALSO ASK, UM, FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE OR FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING ONLINE, YOU CAN GO TO OUR, UH, HOMEPAGE WEBSITE, OUR, UH, AS AN ANIMAL, UM, SERVICES WEBPAGE. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE HEADER BAR, UH, YOU'LL SEE ADOPTION. 
          AND THE NEXT CLICK OFF TO THAT IS, UM, UM, PRIORITY PLACE, PRIORITY PLACEMENT, AND THEN YOU CLICK THAT PRIORITY PLACE. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          YOU'LL SEE, UH, DEFINITION OF THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST. 
          YOU'LL SEE THE MOST CURRENT URGENT PLACEMENT LIST. 
          YOU'LL SEE A DEFINITION FOR THE RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST, AND THEN THE DESCRIPTION OF, UM, THE ANIMALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT, UH, RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST. 
          UM, SO THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST IS A SYSTEM THAT THIS ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN USING FOR A WHILE, I BELIEVE IT DERIVED FROM THE KANSAS CITY, UH, PROJECT THAT JUST BRINGS ATTENTION TO THE ANIMALS IN OUR, IN OUR CARE THAT, UM, UH, NEED ATTENTION, NEED FOCUS FOR, UH, FOR, FOR PLACEMENT, WHETHER THAT'S ADOPTION, UH, FOSTER, UM, RESCUE. 
          AND, UH, THERE'S ALSO NOTATION OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH THESE ANIMALS, WHETHER IT'S BEHAVIOR, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER A, A BITE, UH, PREVIOUS BITE HISTORY. 
          UH, AND ALSO, UM, WE MENTIONED IN THERE, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN, UH, CARING FOR THESE ANIMALS. 
          AND SO THAT, UH, LIST USED TO BE THE LIST THAT THIS DEPARTMENT USED TO, UM, USE TO MANAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE IDENTIFICATION OF THOSE ANIMALS THAT THE DEPARTMENT FELT BASED ON CRITERIA, LOOKING AT, UH, THE DUNBAR SCALE OF ANY, UH, PRIOR BITES. 
          UH, ALSO THE BEHAVIORAL ASSESSMENT COLLECTIVELY INFORMED THE EVALUATION METRICS THAT INFORMED WHICH ANIMALS THAT WE DID NOT FEEL AS A DEPARTMENT THAT, UM, SHOULD NOT BE IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE, UH, OBVIOUSLY AS A MUNICIPAL SHELTER, WE HAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF THINKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO, UM, UH, PREVIOUS, UM, ANNOUNCEMENTS WHERE WE WERE, UH, NOTIFIED THE COMMUNITY, UH, INTERESTED IN STAKEHOLDERS THAT REGISTERED TO BE NOTIFIED WHEN THE DEPARTMENT WAS GONNA BE RELEASING ANY, UH, NOTIFICATION FOR HUMANE EUTHANASIA. 
          UH, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENCY, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU HAVE THIS ANIMAL ON THIS LIST AND STILL HAVE THESE VARIOUS OPTIONS AVAILABLE, AVAILABLE FOR PLACEMENT? UM, YOU KNOW, TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS WHERE WE, UM, LEFT OUT, UH, EXCUSE ME, NOTIFIED THROUGH THIS NOTIFICATION PROCESS. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE FELT THE NEED TO CREATE A, A, A SEPARATE LISTING THAT REALLY SAID, OKAY, UH, IN FULL TRANSPARENCY MODE, THESE ARE THE ANIMALS THAT WE BELIEVE BASED ON ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY FROM THE BITE HISTORY. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND AUDITED THE, UM, DUNBAR ASSESSMENT FOR THAT BITE, THE BEHAVIORAL ASSESSMENT AND THE INFORMED EVALUATION THAT WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, THESE ANIMALS ARE, SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE ADOPTED OR FOSTERED AND SHOULD BE ONLY EITHER RESCUED, UM, BY A RESCUE ORGANIZATION THAT'S, UH, INFORMS OF A PLAN OF WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THAT ANIMAL, UH, OR, UH, THE BEST OPTION IS, UH, HUMANE. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT INFORMED THE PURPOSE OF THE NEW RPO AND AGAIN, ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO GO TO OUR WEBSITE TO LEARN MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT, UH, HOW THOSE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, LISTS FUNCTION AND, UH, HOW WE OPERATE THOSE LISTS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANYONE ELSE? UM, I DID, I DID HAVE A, A QUESTION RELATED TO THAT. 
          I KNOW WHEN YOU CAME AND, UM, SPOKE TO US ABOUT THE NEW, ABOUT THE MEMO AND THE NEW, THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST AND THE RESCUE, UM, PLACEMENT LIST LAST MONTH, THAT AT THAT, AT THAT TIME WHEN IT WAS FIRST PUBLISHED, UM, YOU RELAYED THERE WERE THREE DOGS ON IT AT THAT TIME, THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, AND THEN THERE WERE TWO NOTIFICATIONS SENT OUT IN, UH, SEPTEMBER 22ND AND 23RD, I BELIEVE, POINT OF ORDER , I BELIEVE WE'RE GETTING INTO THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          WELL, BECAUSE I'M ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, I NOTICED IN THE REPORT THIS MONTH THAT THERE WERE TWO DOGS EUTHANIZED FOR BEHAVIOR, BUT THOSE WERE DIFFERENT FROM THE ONES THAT THAT, UH, NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT ON. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, THO? THOSE ARE DIFFERENT. 
          UH, NOTIF, UH, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, ANIMALS. 
          AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, BY OUR CODE, UM, WE ARE TO, UM, NOTIFY RESCUE PLACEMENT OF, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, THOSE DOGS THAT WE'RE, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH HUMANE EU NASIA UNLESS, UH, THEIR, UH, DB THEIR DUMB BAR RATING IS, UH, A DB FOUR OR GREATER. 
          AND SO, UM, I'M 99% SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT THOSE TWO DOGS ARE ARE, OR HUMANE IZE BECAUSE OF THEIR DB UH, RATING AND, AND NOT NO NOTIFICATION REQUIRED. 
          SO THOSE FALL, ALL OF THAT, ALL OUTSIDE 
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OF THAT, UH, RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, I DID LOOK AT YOUR, THE LIST EARLIER TODAY AND AT ONE 30 TODAY THERE WERE SEVEN ON THE RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST AND 38 ON THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST. 
          UM, AGAIN, POINT OF ORDER, THIS IS GOING TO THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, THIS IS SIMILARLY TO, TO MY LAST POINT, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY RELATED. 
          IT'S STILL IMPROPER BECAUSE WE AREN'T, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          MY LAST POINT WAS RELATED. 
          I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TAKE MY TIME. 
          UM, SO, SO, AND THEN ARE, ARE THERE HAVE ANY, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EUTHANASIA NOTICES SENT OUT SO FAR IN OCTOBER, IS THAT CORRECT? SO, UM, LEMME JUST, UM, KIND OF RECAP THE PROCESS FOR THE RPO, THE RESCUE PLACEMENT ONLY LIST. 
          SO, UH, WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF THE MONTH, WE'RE GONNA PUBLISH THE, UM, THE, THE CURRENT LISTING. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WE HAD WHEN WE PUBLISHED THAT LIST, UH, EARLY IN OCTOBER. 
          UM, WHAT WAS PUBLISHED TODAY, WHAT WAS SENT OUT TODAY, UM, WAS THE COMMITMENT PERIOD. 
          SO AFTER WE PUBLISHED THE, THE, UH, GENERAL, THE RPL FOR THE MONTH, UM, AFTER THE FOLLOWING WEEK, AFTER THE THAT NOTIFICATION GOES OUT, WE PROVIDE A FIVE DAY COMMITMENT PERIOD WHERE WE'RE SAYING WE'RE SETTING TIME, UH, TIME ASIDE FOR ALLOWING RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS TO COME IN AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DOGS, ASK QUESTIONS, AND THEY CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT IF THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING FOR THAT ANIMAL. 
          THEY CAN RESCUE, THEY CAN HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT ANIMAL. 
          AND SO, UM, AS OF TODAY, WE, WE SENT OUT A NOTIFICATION FOR, UH, THAT LISTED FIVE DOGS ON THE RPO. 
          AND SO THAT'S JUST THE COMMITMENT PERIOD. 
          UM, AFTER THE COMMITMENT PERIOD IS DONE, THAT FIVE DAY COMMITMENT PERIOD, THEN ANOTHER NOTIFICATION WILL GO OUT, AND THAT'S THE HUMANE EUTHANASIA REQUIREMENT BY THE CODE. 
          AND SO THAT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL 48 HOURS. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS DAYS, RIGHT? SO, UM, THE, THE, THE RPL WILL BE PUBLISHED WITHIN THE FIVE BUS FIRST BUSINESS DAYS OF THE MONTH, THEN A FIVE BUSINESS DAY COMMITMENT PERIOD, AND THEN THE TWO BUSINESS DAYS, 48 HOURS, UH, MEETING THE STATE STA THE, EXCUSE ME, THE CODE, OUR, OUR, UM, OUR CITY CODE REGARDING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S CHAPTER THREE REGARDING A NOTIFICATION FOR EUTHANASIA. 
          AND SO, UM, IF ANY, UH, ANY OF THE ANIMALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE LIST, UH, RIGHT NOW ARE, ARE NOT RESCUED, UM, THEN THAT NOTIFICATION WILL GO OUT ON MONDAY FOR THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY PART OF THE RPO. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, COMMISSIONER NORTON. 
          YEAH, SORRY. 
          UM, JUST ONE, UH, QUICK THING RELATED, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO THE REPORT AND THE FACT THAT YOU HAD THE TWO, UH, EUTHANASIAS ON THERE. 
          UM, I KNOW YOU REPORT A LOT OF INFORMATION TO US AND THANK YOU AND MUCH MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE HAVE TO REPORT PER THE CITY CODE, WHICH IS, UM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPORT ALL THESE THINGS TO US, YOU JUST HAVE TO REPORT WHAT'S IN THERE. 
          BUT, UM, IT MIGHT BE, SINCE THE RPL WORKED SO WELL AND ALL THREE DOGS WERE MOVED ON, WHICH IS THE GOAL, UM, TO GET, TO GET THEM PLACED, UM, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LESS CONFUSING IF WE KNEW ON THE REPORT, SAY, FIVE DOGS OFFERED VIA RPL FIVE DOGS RESCUED, UM, OR MOVED ON, UM, OR FIVE, THREE WERE TAKEN AND TWO WERE EUTHANIZED. 
          I, I THINK THAT WOULD AVOID A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONFUSION THAT'S HAPPENING NOW. 
          UM, APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND I KNOW IT'S ANOTHER THING, BUT , ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS ON THIS PORTION OF THE STAFF PRESENTATION? ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM THREE, STAFF BRIEFING ON UPDATES TO SAFETY PROTOCOLS. 
          UM, PROMA PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS, EMERGENCY VETERINARY SERVICES AND ORTHOPEDIC CONTRACTS BY, UM, INTERIM CHIEF ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, UM, MR. FERNANDEZ. 
          OKAY, LET ME GET, UH, SO WHAT ITEM DO YOU WANT FIRST? I'M SORRY. 
          THE STAFF BRIEFING ON UPDATES TO NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA. 
          YEAH, I JUST, WE'RE READY FOR PRESENTING FOR 
          [4. Staff briefing regarding Good Fix marketing strategies, outreach efforts, and spay/neuter backlogs by Rolando Fernandez, Interim Chief Animal Services Officer, Austin Animal Services. ]
THE GOOD FIX EVENT. 
          DO YOU MIND IF I TAKE THAT FIRST? THAT'S NUMBER FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO SWITCHING THOSE AGENDA ITEMS? YEAH, GET YOU. 
          IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY FOR OKAY. 
          WITHOUT OBJECTION, . 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT SUPPORT. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          I'M ELIZABETH FERRE AND I AM THE MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS PROGRAM MANAGER. 
          AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR, UM, SOON TO COME. 
          GOOD FIX. 
          NO, UH, GOOD FIX SPAY NEUTER CLINIC. 
          THAT'S COMING UP 
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IN NOVEMBER. 
          GO AHEAD AND CHANGE SLIDES PLEASE. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          I FORGOT WE HAVE, WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT. 
          YEAH, SO, UM, IT'S, THE UPCOMING CLINIC IS GOING TO BE NOVEMBER 13TH THROUGH THE 17TH. 
          THOSE ARE FIVE DAYS STARTING WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY. 
          I'M SORRY, STARTING THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY. 
          THE CLINIC WILL BE ON SITE. 
          UM, CLINIC STAFF WILL BE ON SITE STARTING ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH TO SET UP, AND THEY'LL STAY AN EXTRA DAY, NOVEMBER 18TH TO BREAK DOWN THE CLINIC. 
          AND THEY DO THAT VERY EFFICIENTLY AND ON THEIR OWN. 
          THAT'S THE GOOD FIX TEAM DOING THAT WITH SOME HELP FROM OUR LOCAL VOLUNTEERS AS WELL. 
          AND AS, UH, SHELLY, UH, SAID WE WERE AT MAX FOR OUR LAST CLINIC, AND WE WERE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          I THINK IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THINGS. 
          OUR CLINIC HAS STARTED TO BECOME MORE FAMILIAR TO THE PUBLIC. 
          PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO RECOGNIZE IT AS SOMETHING THAT IS HIGH QUALITY, HIGH VOLUME, MORE EFFICIENT THAN WHAT YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF A, A QUICK DAILY SPAY NEUTER CLINIC. 
          WE ALSO, UM, HAD, UM, THE ADDITIONAL EFFORTS OF THE WORKING GROUP TO HELP PROMOTE THE CLINIC AND THE CONVENIENT LOCATION OF BEING IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN. 
          IT AT A LOCATION THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS WELL. 
          CODA IS WELL KNOWN WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN THERE OR NOT, AND IT WAS EASY TO GET TO, ALTHOUGH DRIVING INSIDE OF CODA WAS A LITTLE COMPLICATED. 
          I GOT LOST MY FIRST DAY. 
          AND OUR STRONG PARTNER COLLABORATION, WE HAVE LOTS OF CITY ENTITIES AS WELL AS PARTNERS WITHIN THE, UM, COMMUNITY THAT ARE HELPING US TO PROMOTE THESE CLINICS BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS REALLY RECOGNIZED WHAT THE BENEFIT TO THESE FREE SPAY NEUTER CLINICS ARE. 
          SO WE ARE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO MAX OUT AGAIN, UM, THE SAME, WE ARE AT THE SAME, ALMOST THE SAME LOCATION AS THE ONE THAT WAS IN DECEMBER. 
          THEY ARE, THIS LOCATION IS CLOSER TO A CORNER. 
          THE ADDRESS ACTUALLY TAKES YOU RIGHT TO THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CLINIC. 
          AND I'M JUST REASSURING BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE WERE AT THIS INDUSTRIAL CENTER, IT WAS A LITTLE HARDER TO GET TO THIS TIME. 
          THE ADDRESS GETS YOU RIGHT TO THE BUILDING WHERE THE CLINIC WILL BE AND THE CARS WILL BE LINING UP IN THE ALLEYWAY, BE BEHIND THE FRONT, THE, THE, UH, FRONT OF THIS BUILDING. 
          SO, UM, JUST TO REASSURE, THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET TO JUST IN TERMS OF COMPARING IT TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT WE WERE IN AT THE SECOND CLINIC. 
          SO WHAT OUR MARKETING HAS HAP THE MARKETING THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IS ALSO AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WORKING GROUP, IS CROSS CROSS-PROMOTING WITH OUR, UM, CLINIC PARTNERS, NOT JUST THE HOST. 
          GOOD FIX DOES DO SOME OF THE MARKETING, BUT THIS FALLS PRIMARILY ON OUR LOCAL GROUPS, INCLUDING ME AND WHATEVER ASSISTANCE WE GET FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE, UH, OUR, OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO EXPAND OUR SOCIAL MEDIA IMPACT AND OUR MEDIA COVERAGE. 
          THIS PAST CLINIC MEDIA PICKED UP, PICKED UP THE CLINIC VERY EARLY ON AND HAD IT ON THEIR WEBSITE. 
          AND WE'RE CONTINUALLY RUNNING IT AS ONLINE STORIES ON ALL THE STATIONS, INCLUDING SPANISH MEDIA. 
          WE HAVE. 
          AND WE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH IT. 
          AND, UM, STAFF IS ALSO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS. 
          I HAD SOME MESSAGES WHEN I CAME INTO WORK TODAY FROM OTHER SPANISH SPEAKING, UM, MEDIA OUTLETS HERE LOCALLY THAT HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD, UH, COVER OUR, OUR, OUR CLINIC FLYERS ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED TO SOMEONE'S QUESTION. 
          WE HOPE TO HAVE THE FLYERS PRINTED BY THE END OF THE WEEK, IF NOT BY MONDAY. 
          GOOD FIX IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THOSE FLYERS AND, UM, PR PRODUCING THEM. 
          AND THEN I HAVE THEM PRINTED LOCALLY. 
          AND SO WE ARE FINALIZING ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS INCLUDING THE NEW LOGO CHANGE. 
          WE, UM, ARE ALL GETTING USED TO REFERRING TO OURSELVES AS AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          SOME PEOPLE ARE TAKING THAT WORSE THAN OTHERS. 
          AND WE ARE ALSO GETTING USED TO THE NEW LOGO. 
          AND SO, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, AND YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN IT IN THE, UM, IN THE OPENING SLIDE HERE, WE'LL BE USING THE SILHOUETTE OF THE DOG, RABBIT AND KITTY AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          IT JUST CANNOT BE AFFILIATED TO A LOGO. 
          BUT BECAUSE THAT COLORFUL SILHOUETTE AS WELL KNOWN, WE'LL BE INCORPORATING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          HOWEVER, FOR RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE LAUNCHING THIS BRAND IN, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REST OF THE CITY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT A AUSTIN QUITE A BIT. 
          AND YOU WILL ALSO SOMETIMES SEE IT A AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LETTING US DO THAT. 
          OOPS, GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THE SLIDE. 
          SO, UM, IN IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE ARE STRIVING TO ACHIEVE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, COORDINATING SLOTS FOR COMMUNITY CATS. 
          WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO 
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COORDINATE SLOTS FOR MANY OF OUR FOSTERS WHO STILL HAVE ANIMALS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SPAYED OR NEUTERED AS LONG AS WELL AS WITH COMMUNITY CATS. 
          THE ISSUE BECOMES TRANSPORTATION AND HOW WE COORDINATE ALL OF THAT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO, UH, SET A REALISTIC EXPECTATION THAT, UM, THIS IS AN ONGOING PROCESS. 
          WE LEARN FROM EVERY TIME THAT WE HAVE TO OR NOT HAVE TO EVERY TIME THAT WE WANT TO COORDINATE WITH OUR IN-HOUSE PARTNERS, SUCH AS OUR FOSTERS. 
          AND SO, UM, THEY, WE ARE WORKING WITH GOOD FIX TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SLOTS SET ASIDE FOR OUR IN-HOUSE PARTNERS SUCH AS THE TNR GROUP AND COMMUNITY CATS AND OUR FOSTERS. 
          WE ARE CONTINUING TO HAVE THAT TARGETED OUTREACH VIA OUR FLYERS. 
          UM, STAFF ALWAYS HAS A PILE OF FLYERS INSIDE THE LOBBY, INSIDE THE PRC AND OUR APOS ARE CONSTANTLY DISTRIBUTING FLYERS WHEREVER THEY GO TO. 
          AND, UM, THE REST OF US ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE ALL OF OUR CITY CONNECTIONS TO GET THOSE FLYERS OUT WHEREVER THEY, UH, WHEREVER WE CAN REACH TO THE NORTH SIDE. 
          WHERE, UM, WE MENTIONED THAT THE NEW, UM, AND WHERE JENNIFER SAID SHE'S FROM , UM, I, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THAT SIDE OF TOWN AS I AM MORE WITH THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          SO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHERE WE CAN GET FLYERS, WE WILL ALSO PRINT UP 11 BY 17 POSTERS THAT ARE A LITTLE, UH, MORE VISIBLE AND EASIER TO READ TO BE ABLE TO POST. 
          SO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHERE WE CAN GET THOSE POSTED. 
          BUT WE WILL HAVE THEM AT THE LIBRARIES, AT REC CENTERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND OTHER CITY FACILITIES ENCOURAGING THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MARKETING PARTICIPATION. 
          FOR ME THAT REALLY IS THINGS LIKE HOA WHERE YOU CAN GET THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE HOAS, HOA, PUTTING THEM IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS. 
          WE DO HAVE COUNCIL ALSO INCLUDING THEM IN ALL OF THEIR, UM, BIWEEKLY OR MONTHLY NEWSLETTERS. 
          AND, BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS REALLY THE GRASSROOTS EFFORTS ARE REALLY THE THING THAT HAVE THE MOST IMPACT. 
          SO HAVING, UM, BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS, GOING TO PUBLIC EVENTS IN, IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE FOUND IS REALLY EFFECTIVE. 
          AND SO OUR, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH TEAM IS REALLY JUST TWO PEOPLE AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF GETTING OUT, BUT WHEREVER ELSE WE CAN GET SOME FLYERS PLACED, EVEN IF THEY'RE AT A TABLE WITH SOMEONE ELSE FROM THE CITY THAT IS, UM, PASSING OUT INFORMATION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO, TO REACH OUT TO UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN ANY CREATIVE WAY THAT WE CAN. 
          UM, THE BILINGUAL POPULATION IS SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY HAS CHANGED SINCE I'VE ARRIVED AND SINCE WE HAVE A NEW TEAM MEMBER WHOSE NAME IS VALERIA MORENO, BECAUSE WE BOTH ARE BILINGUAL, WE BOTH, I'M COMFORTABLE ON SPANISH MEDIA. 
          I KNOW A LOT OF SPANISH MEDIA. 
          AND SO BESIDES THE MEDIA IS LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE ABLE TO TARGET SPANISH SPEAKERS THAT REALLY HAS BEEN SHOWN, UM, THROUGH DATA TO BE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          SO VALERIA HAS REALLY DONE A BANG UP JOB OF INCREASING, SHE RESTARTED THE SPANISH FACEBOOK PAGE, UH, WHICH WAS EL CENTRO DE AL, THE AUSTIN, AND WE HAD TO GET ITS CITY APPROVED. 
          IT IS NOW, UM, C CIOS, PARA AL, THE AUSTIN, THAT IS THE NEW NAME ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO, UM, IMPROVE THE INS, THE SPANISH INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT AS WELL. 
          SPEAKING OF THAT, I WAS TELLING, UM, MELISSA, TODAY WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE ENGLISH FACEBOOK PAGE CHANGED TO AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES, BUT FACEBOOK IS NOT LETTING US DO IT EASILY. 
          AND SO WE WE'RE TAKING THAT AS A SIGN THAT IT SHOULD STAY AS AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE HOOPS, THE FACEBOOK HOOPS, CITY HALL IS HELPING US BECAUSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE ALSO HAVING TO CHANGE THEIR NAMES. 
          THIS IS A CITYWIDE INITIATIVE. 
          SO YOU WILL SEE IT RIGHT NOW AS AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER AND THE REMNANTS OF AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO FOR PER, MAINLY DUE TO PERMISSIONS. 
          AND, UM, WE ARE STILL REFINING OUR OUTREACH STRATEGIES. 
          I WORK A LOT WITH CITY HALL AND OUR CITY HALL OUTREACH TEAM AND COMMUNICATIONS TEAM. 
          UM, THEY CALL IT THE NET PIO, THE NETWORK, PIO. 
          AND SO WE HAVE, UM, A CHAT, A TEAMS CHAT WHERE IT'S OVER 200 PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY AND COMMUNICATIONS. 
          WE SHARE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT OUR EVENTS. 
          WE ARE SHARE, WE ASK EACH OTHER TO POST OUR EVENTS. 
          AND SO DOING THINGS LIKE THAT ALSO PROVIDES, UM, A NETWORK TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES ABOUT WHERE WE CAN BE HANDS ON AT CERTAIN PUBLIC EVENTS THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. 
          SO THESE ARE JUST ONE SMALL WAY THAT ARE READILY AVAILABLE TO US AND, 
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UM, REFINING OUR OUTREACH STRATEGIES. 
          BUT AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, OUTREACH AND REACHING TARGETED AUDIENCE, ESPECIALLY UNDERSERVED AUDIENCE, WHETHER IT'S BILINGUAL AUDIENCES OR ECONOMICALLY AT RISK AUDIENCE, IS A CHALLENGE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CITY. 
          AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO IMPROVE ON THROUGH THE NET PIO. 
          AND SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GONNA BE CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW FOR SURE IS THE BRAND NAME IS THE LOGO CHANGE. 
          PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA BE FAMILIAR WITH IT. 
          EVEN, UM, EMPLOYEES ARE NOT QUITE FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH IT YET. 
          AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE'VE WORKED TO INCREASE TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY JUST UNDER THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER LOGO, THIS SHIFT IS GONNA THROW PEOPLE OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND THIS IS ACROSS THE CITY. 
          IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT US. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT THIS LOGO CHANGE ALSO JUST HAS THAT IMPACT OF MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NOT KNOWING WHO IT IS, BUT IT MIGHT ALSO ENCOURAGE SOME IN SOME, UM, INQUIRY AS TO WHO IS THIS AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING AND ALL OF THAT. 
          SO MY GOAL IS NOT JUST ABOUT PROMOTING THE SPAY NEUTER CLINIC, WHICH IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S ALSO TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE ON OUR BRAND RECOGNITION FOR JUST IN GENERAL FOR AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE SLIDE. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          NO. 
          AND SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT OUTREACH AND BEING ABLE TO MEASURE, UM, HOW MUCH IMPACT ANY ONE OF OUR CAMPAIGNS HAVE, THAT REALLY IS A UNIVERSAL MARKETING CHALLENGE. 
          JUST BECAUSE, FOR INSTANCE, FOR OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, WHICH WE HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF FOLLOWERS IN THE CITY OF ANY DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN AUSTIN. 
          WE HAVE A FOLLOWING OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE, THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE PO PET OWNERS THAT HAVE THEIR ANIMAL SPAYED AND NEUTERED. 
          WE COUNT ON THEM TO HELP PASS THE WORD ALONG. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE ALSO, UH, SURVEY VALERIA, MY COWORKER, SURVEYS EVERY PARTICIPANT OF THE SPAY NEUTER CLINIC CAR BY CAR TO ASK WHERE THEY HEARD OF ABOUT THE CLINIC. 
          AND IT'S REALLY AN INTERESTING THING BECAUSE THIS IS A TYPICAL MARKETING, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER, SHE HAS TO KIND OF PROMPT THEM, LIKE, DID YOU SEE A FLYER? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FLYER LOOKS LIKE? AND WHERE DID YOU SEE THE FLYER? DID YOU SEE IT ON FACEBOOK? DID YOU SEE IT AT THE LIBRARY? AND, AND I'M NOT, UM, TRYING TO DISMISS HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. 
          IT'S JUST SAYING THAT SOCIAL MEDIA INDICATORS, ALTHOUGH IMPORTANT, NOT KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT HOW MANY VIEWS WE GET, SOMETIMES JUST THE SHARES. 
          AND FOR EVERY CLINIC THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD OVER A THOUSAND SHARES FROM PEOPLE THAT WE ARE HOPING ARE HELPING US GET THE WORD OUT TO THEIR NETWORKS. 
          UM, BEING ABLE TO, UM, THIS IS JUST A STANDARD PRACTICE, BEING ABLE TO SAY, WELL, IT HAD A THOUSAND VIEWS MORE THAN IT DID LAST TIME, IS GOING TO SAY THAT A THOUSAND MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME TO THE CLINIC. 
          THOSE METRICS ON SOCIAL MEDIA DON'T NECESSARILY TRANSIT TRANSLATE TO ACTION. 
          UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO THIS SURVEY THAT VALERIA UNDERTAKES EVERY SINGLE CLINIC, EVERY SINGLE MORNING. 
          SHE'S THERE TO ASK EVERY VEHICLE WHERE THEY HEARD ABOUT IT. 
          AND EVEN WITH THAT, IT'S, IT'S LIKE PULLING TEETH. 
          SHE'S VERY GOOD AT IT BECAUSE SHE'S BILINGUAL, BUT IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO SAY, POINT BLANK. 
          I SAW IT ON INSTAGRAM. 
          I, MY MOTHER TOLD ME ABOUT IT. 
          AND SO WE ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE THAT. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING QR CODES THAT, UM, ARE TRACEABLE AND THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT WE WANNA EMPLOY. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BEING ABLE TO FIND THE RIGHT, UH, FORMULA THAT WORKS. 
          AND SO THAT'S US. 
          AND JUST REALLY QUICK TO THE YOU, UM, THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST AND THE, UH, RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE THAT MY TEAM MAINTAINS, WE ARE WORKING TO REFINE THE LANGUAGE ON THOSE TWO PAGES. 
          WE WILL BE SEPARATING THE RESCUE PLACEMENT LIST AWAY FROM THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST ON THE WEBSITE AND, UM, THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WE WORK TO REFINE THE LANGUAGE. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO PART OF JUST THE MARKETING ASPECT OF ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON HERE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LEMAN. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, JUST SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE URGENT AND UH, MICROPHONE SEAT PLACEMENT LIST, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE URGENT PLACEMENT LIST AND THE WEBSITE, UM, LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SEEING ANY CONTACT INFORMATION ON THOSE TWO LISTS ON THE WEBSITE FOR HOW TO REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY IF A RESCUE WANTS MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AND CONSIDER. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS THAT WE ARE TACKLING AS A TEAM THIS WEEK. 
          WE HAVE A MEETING FOR THAT, AND YOU'LL BE SEEING THOSE UPDATES AS IT EVOLVES. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, ALSO JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, LOOKING AT THAT, THERE ARE MATRIX SCORES, BUT UNLESS I'M INVOLVED IN CREATING THE MATRIX MM-HMM . 
          I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY MEAN. 
          IT DOESN'T TELL ME IF IT'S GOOD OR BAD OR WHAT'S HIGH OR WHAT'S LOW. 
          SO YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT FEEDBACK AS 
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WELL, AND WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, COMMISSIONER MEMER. 
          HELLO. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING FOR THE UNDERPRIVILEGED OR, UM, UNDERUTILIZED COMMUNITIES. 
          UH, OR UNDER UNDERSERVED, WE SAY UNDERSERVED, UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. 
          UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. 
          Y'ALL HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND I, I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          I DO JUST HAVE ONE. 
          I JUST, I DO JUST HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION THAT IN MY, IN MY MIND IS A LITTLE CONCERNING. 
          AND THAT WAS THAT, UM, YOUR, YOUR MAIN GOAL AND EVERYTHING YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS TO SERVE THESE UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS. 
          AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT SPACES, THOUGH ARE BEING HELD FOR FOSTER ANIMALS, UM, THAT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE OPERATED ON FOR SPAY AND NEUTER BY THE VETS LIKE DR. NIELSEN, UM, WHO WORK AT THE, AT THE AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES DIVISION, AS OPPOSED TO TAKING UP VITAL SPOTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE NEEDED BY THIS UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY. 
          SO COULD YOU TELL ME HOW MANY SPOTS Y'ALL ARE, ARE RESERVING FOR FOSTERS TO BE, UH, SURGICALLY, NEUTERED OR SPAYED? AND THANK FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          THIS IS ROLANDO FERNANDEZ, UH, INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. 
          WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT LIST OF, UH, ANIMALS IN OUR FOSTER PROGRAM THAT NEED TO, UM, BE A SPADE OR NEUTERED. 
          UM, CERTAINLY, UH, ALSO LOOK IN OUR CAPACITY IN INTERNALLY WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ANIMALS IN OUR CARE THAT NEED THE SAME SURGERY. 
          UH, AND THEN ON THE COMMUNITY CAST RESPONDING TO THE DIRECTION FROM THIS COMMISSION REGARDING THE CONSIDERATION, THOSE, THOSE ANIMALS THERE. 
          SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER YET. 
          'CAUSE THAT NUMBER CHANGES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME OF THEM MAY GET ADOPTED FROM THE FOSTER PROGRAM AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE THEM AND GET 'EM INTO OUR, UM, SCHEDULE FOR, FOR SPAY AND NEUTER. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          WE HAVE A, A, A SCHEDULE, A SURGERY LIST, WHAT WE CALL IN-HOUSE THAT LOOKS AT ALL THE ANIMALS IN OUR CARE, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE SHELTER OR IN THE FOSTER PROGRAM. 
          UH, AND WE MANAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEK JUST TO KIND OF SCHEDULE THEM AS MANY AS WE CAN BASED ON OUR CAPACITIES. 
          AND OUR CAPACITY IS DRIVEN BY, UM, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CARE, THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE FOR ALL ANIMALS, NOT JUST THE SURGERY, UM, THE AVAILABILITY OF, OF STAFFING, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE, UH, A FULL-TIME, UM, LEAD A VET, UH, DR. 
          ELLIOT THAT OVERSEES OUR, OUR VET CARE PROGRAM, UH, FOR VETS, UH, THAT WORK UNDER DR UH, ELLIOT, AND THEN OUR VET CARE, OUR VET TECH, UH, TEAM THAT WORKS UNDER, UM, UH, DR. 
          ELLIOT AS WELL, AND THEN TWO SUPERVISORS. 
          AND SO WE, WE LOOK AT THAT, UH, ON A DAILY BASIS TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT OUR CAPACITIES TO PROVIDE, UH, SPAY AND NEUTERING SURGERIES WITHIN, WITHIN HOUSE. 
          AND SO, UM, AS WE LOOK AT SORT OF EVERY PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT, EVERY PROGRAMMING TO DO SPAY NEUTER, THAT'S BOTH IN-HOUSE, UH, AND ALSO, UH, CONTRACTING, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR, OUR FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR, UH, THESE KIND OF SERVICES. 
          WE WANNA LEVERAGE THAT. 
          AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THROUGH, UH, GOOD FIX, RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO GET 1,200, UM, AND WE WANT TO GET THAT AS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME DAYS THAT, UH, THEY EXCEED THAT IN TERMS OF THE, THE DATE COUNT TO GET TO THAT NUMBER. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME DAYS THAT THEY DON'T. 
          AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO, AS I SAID, TO GOOD FIX, RIGHT? WE WANT TO GET EVERY ANIMAL AS POSSIBLE, UH, SPAY NEUTERED. 
          AND SO IF THAT MEANS WE BUILD SOME CAPACITY FOR OUR ANIMALS AND THERE'S THAT CAPACITY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT. 
          AND IF IT'S FULL, THEN WE, WE, WE WON'T DO IT THAT DAY, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE NEXT THING. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE READY TO LEVERAGE EVERYTHING, UH, THAT WE CAN DO WITH, UH, GOOD FIX. 
          IT'S A FLAT RATE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE PAY FOR EVERY EVENT WHETHER WE GET 500, 600, A THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, SO WE WANT TO, IT'S, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, UH, STEWARDS OF OUR, OUR TAX DOLLARS TO, UM, LEVERAGE EVERY SINGLE PENNY THAT WE CAN GET FROM GOOD FIX. 
          SO FORGIVE ME IF I MISUNDERSTOOD. 
          UM, PLEASE, I, I DO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE PRIORITIZING THE FOSTER ANIMALS OVER THE UNDERSERVED POPULATION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UTILIZING CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR SPAY AND NEUTER WHEN THE BUDGET ALREADY HAS THEM IN FOR THE VETERINARIANS. 
          I, I, I, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY, IS WHAT I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          I'M HEARING, I'M HEARING ONE THING FROM ONE PERSON, AND FORGIVE ME FOR ROLON ROLANDA, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONTRADICTING WHAT THIS WONDERFUL PERSON WHO TALKED ABOUT GOOD FIX JUST SAID. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE PRIORITIZING OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND THERE'S, AS THERE'S GAPS AVAILABLE TO THAT CAPACITY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO FILL THAT, AND THAT'S WITH OUR ANIMALS. 
          UM, AND ALSO WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, ASKED TO LOOK, LOOK AT FOR COMMUNITY CATS, UNDERSTOOD. 
          NOT, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE COMMUNITY CATS. 
          I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL OPTION AS WELL. 
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SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING WE DO. 
          SO I, I'D LIKE TO ADD TO WHAT ROLANDO SAID THAT IS EXACTLY ALWAYS WHAT OUR DILEMMA IS. 
          THE GOAL OF OUR, OF OUR SERVICES, JUST IN GENERAL, IS TO SPAY AS MANY NEW, UM, CATS AND DOGS AS WE CAN, SPAY, NEUTER ANY ANIMAL THAT WE CAN. 
          AND SO PART OF THE DECISION MAKING TO THIS WAS BECAUSE WE ALSO, AT THE LAST CLINIC, WE HAD SOME OF OUR, UH, COMMUNITY CATS AND TRAP, UH, TNR GROUPS TURNED AWAY BECAUSE THE, THE CLINIC GOT SO FULL AND WE HAD TO TURN AWAY QUITE A FEW PEOPLE AS WELL, BECAUSE THE CLINIC WAS SO FULL. 
          BUT ON DAY ONE, DAY ONE TRADITIONALLY HASN'T BEEN A TOTALLY FULL DAY EVERY DAY. 
          AND SO TO WHAT ROLANDO WAS SAYING WAS, IF WE ARE ABLE TO HOLD SOME SPOTS, WE WANNA JUST, IT'S ALSO NOT TO, UH, DENY ANYONE A SPOT, BUT IT'S ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE ON DAY ONE THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING ALL 250 SPOTS OF THE SURGERY. 
          BECAUSE DAY ONE, JUST ACROSS THE BOARD SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, TENDS TO BE A, A SLOWER DAY. 
          BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EVALUATING AS A TEAM, AND ESPECIALLY AS WE START TO PRO, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY PROMOTE THIS CLINIC, WHICH WE HAVE, UM, BEEN PROMOTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          BUT WE'LL BE GOING FULL FORCE ONCE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR PRINTED MATERIALS READY IS, UH, MAKING SURE, WE'LL, YOU CAN START TO GAUGE A LITTLE BIT. 
          PE QUESTIONS WILL START TO ROLL IN FROM PEOPLE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SHOULD I COME, WHEN SHOULD I GO? AND IF WE HAVE TO AT THIS CLINIC START TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY, LIKE WE DID AT THE LAST CLINIC THAT STARTED ON DAY TWO, THEN IT'S SOMETHING TO REEVALUATE AGAIN FOR THE FOLLOWING CLINIC IN 2026. 
          SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED, IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND THE BALANCE BETWEEN HOW DO WE SPAY AND NEUTER EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL THAT WE CAN GET INTO THIS CLINIC, BALANCING THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE NEED AS WELL WITH OUR PARTNERS, AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE WORD OUT AND, AND ARE REACHING US WHEN THEY CAN REACH US. 
          AND DAY ONE, TRADITIONALLY, TYPICALLY HAS BEEN A SLOWER, UM, A SLOWER CLIENT DAY, BUT THAT COULD BE DIFFERENT. 
          AND WE, WE'LL ADJUST AS WE NEED TO FOR THAT. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT SOUNDS VERY GOOD. 
          OKAY, COMMISSIONER LINDER, THANKS SO MUCH. 
          UM, THANKS FOR, FOR THIS REALLY HELPFUL OVERVIEW AND, AND FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT AND ESPECIALLY, UM, THE WORK YOU'RE DOING TO, TO REACH OUR SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY, UM, I THINK IS, UH, IS HUGELY ESSENTIAL. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          UM, JUST TO, TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THEN, AND KIND OF PAIR IT BACK TO YOU, WHAT I, WHAT I'M TAKING AWAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FOSTERS WHO ARE KIND OF ON CALL, SHOULD THERE BE SPOTS AVAILABLE, UM, SO THAT THOSE SPOTS DON'T GO TO WASTE, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY HOLDING A SPOT THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE GIVEN TO A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WHO NEEDS THAT SPOT AND SHOWS UP ON THAT DAY. 
          IS IS THAT RIGHT? GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, RIGHT, THERE'S CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY SOME DAYS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I THINK WEDNESDAY'S TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN THE BUSIEST DAY. 
          SO LIKE THE 250 RANGE THAT THAT GOOD FIXX HITS AND OTHER DAYS IT'S BEEN LESS. 
          AND SO HOW DO WE GET THE MOST OUT OF IT? AND OUR DESIRE FOR THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN GOOD FIX AS WELL. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE SHARED THAT IT'S OUR GOAL TO GET AS MANY AS POSSIBLE RIGHT WITHIN THAT ONE WEEK. 
          AND SO, UM, WE, WE WANNA DO THAT. 
          AND SO, YEAH. 
          SO THE MAXIMUM PER DAY IS TWO 50. 
          YEAH, THEY CAN'T VARY. 
          THEY'VE GOT THEIR PROCESS. 
          AND SO TWO 50 IS IT REGARDLESS OF IF ONLY A HUNDRED SHOW UP ON THE FIRST DAY, THEY CAN'T MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE ON THE SECOND OR THIRD DAY. 
          THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEIR PROCESS WORKS. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. 
          AND, UM, SOMETHING ELSE I JUST WANNA THROW OUT IS, YES, THE FOSTERS ARE, YOU KNOW, HOLDING OUR ANIMALS, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT FOR THEM AS WELL. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO ENCOURAGE OUR FOSTERS TO HAVE THEIR ANIMALS, THE ANIMALS THAT THEY'RE HOLDING FOR A S SPADE AND NEUTERED, BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THEM, UM, FIND IT CONVENIENT TO COME TO THE CLINIC. 
          I MEAN, TO COME TO, I'M SORRY, TO OUR SHELTER. 
          THEY DON'T FIND IT CONVENIENT TO GO TO EMANCIPET. 
          SO WE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO OFFER OPTIONS AS WELL TO HELP GET ALL OF OUR ANIMAL SPAYED AND NEUTERED. 
          AND I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT, JUST BECAUSE IT, IT IS AN ISSUE SOMETIMES JUST TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN EVEN TO THE SHELTER. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CAPACITY IS, IS SORT OF BY DAY. 
          AND SO IF ONLY 150 PEOPLE SHOW UP AND YOU CAN FIT IN, THEN A HUNDRED OF YOUR FOSTERS, THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE TO ME. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST ONE OTHER LIKE, QUICK POINT, UM, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE SURVEYS AND ASKING FOLKS, UM, HOW THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CLINIC, I GUESS IT STRIKES ME THAT A LOT OF THESE FOLKS MAY HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CLINIC FROM SOMEONE WHO WENT TO A PREVIOUS CLINIC. 
          UM, SO I KNOW WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE FAR ENOUGH IN ADVANCE TO, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, UM, TO THESE FOLKS. 
          YOU, YOU 
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CAN TELL YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER CLINIC, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME IN JANUARY. 
          UM, BUT EVEN IF WE COULD SORT OF, UM, PLANT THAT SEED WITH THEM WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT SURVEY, IT COULD, COULD BE HELPFUL. 
          'CAUSE I IMAGINE WORD OF MOUTH IS, UH, IS A REALLY, UM, USEFUL VEHICLE HERE AS WELL. 
          SO JUST A THOUGHT THERE. 
          NO, WE ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. 
          WE KNEW THAT THIS CLINIC FOR THE SUMMER, WE KNEW THIS CLINIC WAS COMING UP IN THE FALL. 
          WE, WE DON'T COMMIT TO LIKE A TIME. 
          SO YES, WE, WE WERE TELLING PEOPLE THERE'S ANOTHER ONE IN THE FALL, GET READY TO LOOK OUT FOR IT. 
          IT'S A MYSTERY WHERE IT'S GONNA BE. 
          SO BE READY. 
          AND THEN THE, THE, THE NEXT ONE WILL BE IN EARLY 2026. 
          SO BE READY. 
          IT'LL BE A MYSTERY WHERE WE HAVE IT. 
          AND , I, I SAY THAT JOKINGLY. 
          WE, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, BUT YES, NO, WE TOTALLY ARE SELLING IT TO PEOPLE THAT ANOTHER ONE WILL BE COMING. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER HOLT AND THEN COMMISSIONER NORTON AFTER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS. 
          ALSO QUICK PLUG, ELIZABETH, THE INSTAGRAM IS DOING GREAT. 
          I'M JUST SO EXCITED, UH, FOR THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THERE. 
          BUT, UM, TO THIS ISSUE, UH, ELROY, WE HERE GET BROUGHT UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AT THIS COMMISSION, UM, AT TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          WE GET IT BROUGHT UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          I AM BEGGING YOU  TO MAKE ONE OF THE 20, 26 CLINICS BASED OUT OF ELROY BECAUSE I THINK IT IS ONE OF THE AREAS OF GREATEST NEED, UM, IN TRAVIS COUNTY RIGHT NOW. 
          THE CHALLENGE IS BECAUSE I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRYING TO FIND THE LOCATION IS HAVING A LARGE ENOUGH SPACE, AND I'M JUST, JUST TELLING A LARGE ENOUGH SPACE THAT'S ALMOST GYMNASIUM SI GYMNASIUM, SIDE SIZE, GYMNASIUM SIZE, SORRY, THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR SEVEN FULL DAYS. 
          AND SO I AM NOT DISAGREEING, BUT ANY HINT WE CAN GET ABOUT WHERE WE CAN FIND A SPACE THAT IS FREE OR RELATIVELY CHEAP, WE WILL GO DOWN SOUTH. 
          I MEAN, I WENT THROUGH ALL MY CONTACTS IN THE SOUTH PART OF, UH, AUSTIN AND, UM, TRAVIS COUNTY, AND I MEAN, IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO FIND A SPACE. 
          SO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, WE ARE HAPPY TO PURSUE IT, BUT YES, I AGREE. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES WE WISH WE COULD TARGET. 
          COMMISSIONER NORTON, THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          UM, I'VE, UH, VOLUNTEERED AT THREE OF THE CLINICS. 
          I'M ON THE INTAKE TEAM AND, UM, I SEE THE ANIMALS COMING IN AND SOMETIMES IT'S VERY SAD TO NOT HAVE THE NUMBERS UP WHERE YOU WANT IT. 
          UM, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF COORDINATION TO, UH, TO CALL AROUND AND GET FOSTERS AND ANIMAL PROTECTION. 
          IT WAS EXCITING THE FIRST DAY, UM, OF THE VERY FIRST CLINIC, UM, THAT AN TO SEE ANIMAL PROTECTION COMING IN IN THE AFTERNOON WITH ANIMALS. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE VET. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF CITY MONEY BECAUSE THAT FREES UP OUR VETS TO DO OTHER ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER FASTER, TO MAKE THEM MORE ADOPTABLE. 
          SO I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF WORK IN A LOT OF COORDINATION, BUT I REALLY THANK YOU FOR DOING IT BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO SEE THOSE SLOTS, UM, FILLED UP. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, ELIZABETH, APPRECIATE ALL THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD WORK. 
          UM, ARE YOU PREPARED TODAY TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM THREE? WE'RE GONNA, YES, WE'RE GONNA DO THE BUDGET AND CONTRACTS. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT INFORMS THE, UH, PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS, EMERGENCY VETERINARY SERVICES AND ORTHOPEDIC CONTRACTS, AND KIND OF BACKFILLS A LITTLE BIT WHAT ELIZABETH JUST SHARED. 
          AND THEN WE'LL DO, UH, THE, UH, THE UPDATE ON THE SAFETY PROTOCOL IS AFTER THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING ON TO, UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS PRESENTATION BY, UH, NO, SO YOU WANT, WE'RE, WE'RE, NOW, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX? NO, THROUGH ITEM THREE. 
          THREE. 
          WE'RE STILL ITEM THREE. 
          SO YOU'RE ON ITEM THREE? YES, MA'AM. 
          SORRY, I DIDN'T, I WASN'T CLEAR COMMISSIONER, SO YOU ARE PREPARED TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          ALRIGHT, SO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, STAFF 
          [3. Staff briefing on updates to safety protocols, programmatic needs, emergency veterinary services and orthopedic contracts by Rolando Fernandez, Interim Chief Animal Services Officer, Austin Animal Services. ]
BRIEFING ON UPDATES TO SAFETY PROTOCOLS PROGRAM. 
          GREG PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS EMERGENCY VETERINARY SERVICES AND ORTHOPEDIC CONTRACTS BY INTERIM CHIEF ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER, UM, FERNANDEZ AND MELISSA POOLE, . 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          I'M MELISSA POOLE, UH, INTERIM CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. 
          AND, UM, AS PART OF TALKING ABOUT OUR PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS AND, UH, THE CONTRACTS YOU ASKED US TO DISCUSS, WE WANTED TO JUST GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR BUDGET AND KIND OF WHERE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE. 
          SO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS, UM, A SCREENSHOT REALLY FROM THE APPROVED BUDGET DOCUMENT. 
          AND IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, OUR 
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OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND, UM, OF, UH, OF THE FULL GENERAL FUND AMOUNT. 
          UM, OUR, OUR APPROVED BUDGET AMOUNT FOR FY 26, UH, WAS 25 MILLION, 29,991. 
          BUT YOU'LL NOTE IN THAT DONUT ON THE LEFT THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST WANTED TO TO POINT OUT THAT A LARGE PORTION OF THAT 24% IS FOR, UM, TRANSFERS, DEBT SERVICE, OTHER REQUIREMENTS, AND NOT AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR USE FOR, UM, SHELTER NEEDS WITH REGARD TO, UM, PROGRAMMING. 
          AND THEN THE REMAINDER IS LARGELY THE ANIMAL SERVICES OPERATIONS GROUP. 
          AND THEN ALSO SUPPORT SERVICES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION AND MANAGEMENT PIECE. 
          UM, SO WE, WE CAN, WE'LL SEE IF THIS CLICKER WORKS. 
          MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          IT, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO DO ANYTHING TO THE RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AH, YEAH, THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEN BREAKING IT DOWN A LITTLE MORE AND LOOKING AT, UM, THE ANIMAL SERVICES OPERATING BUDGET, LOOKING AT PERSONNEL CONTRACTUALS AND COMMODITIES, YOU CAN SEE THAT, AND THIS GIVES YOU A GLIMPSE THAT IT REALLY, UH, 20 FY 24 25, AND THEN THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR 26 AND OUR PLAN FOR 2027. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET THERE IS, UH, PERSONNEL, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWED BY CONTRACTUALS FOR BASIC THINGS, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR OUR, OUR OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND COMMODITIES. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY CONTRACTS AND FOOD FOR THE ANIMALS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MEDICINE AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, WE'RE PRETTY LEAN THERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT TO CUT WHEN WE'RE ASKED. 
          AND THE, THE DIRECTIVE FROM THE CITY MANAGER WAS THAT, UM, ALL DEPARTMENTS LOOK AT REDUCING THEIR BUDGETS BY 5%. 
          AND THEN FOR THE SUPPORT SERVICE BUDGET, UM, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, IT EXECUTIVE AND, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT STAFF, INCLUDING FUNCTIONS SUCH, SUCH AS, UH, MARKETING, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, EXECUTIVE SUPPORT, BUT ALSO, UM, IT, UM, UH, OUR, OUR INTERNAL, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PURCHASING COMPONENT. 
          UM, SO FROM THAT, YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SUPPORT SERVICE PORTION OF THE BUDGET, UH, WAS APPROVED AT, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO 2.6. 
          UM, AND YOU'LL YOU'LL NOTE ALSO, AND I'M SORRY, I MEANT TO DO THAT ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE YOU CAN SEE OUR FTE. 
          SO WE HAVE NOT CHANGED. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, WHY WE'RE ADDING POSITIONS IN THIS AREA. 
          AND I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE WHERE, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT ALL THOSE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, BUT WE'VE, UH, REMAINED AT, YOU KNOW, 10 FTES AND THIS PAST BUDGET SEASON WE GREW BY THREE. 
          UM, ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE WE ADDED FOUR POSITIONS. 
          AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL TALK YOU THROUGH THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND WHY WE ADDED THOSE POSITIONS. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S JUST HIGH LEVEL, JUST HOW WE'RE SET UP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THIS, UH, PAGE IS THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, UH, SLIDE, AND IT SHOWS, UH, THE POSITIONS THAT WERE ADDED, UM, SOME OF THE, THE CUTS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAD TO MAKE. 
          UM, I, I'D LIKE TO JUST EXPLAIN SOMETHING FROM THAT IS I THINK CAN BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. 
          UM, WHEN WE GO THROUGH A BUDGET PROCESS AND THERE IS AN, UM, A PROCESS THAT DEPARTMENTS CAN CHOOSE TO GO THROUGH THAT IS FOR ENHANCEMENTS, THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT PROGRAMMING DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT WE FEEL IS NEEDED AND USEFUL TO SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, OUR OPERATIONS. 
          AND THEN THE 5%, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS DIRECTED BY THE CITY MANAGER FOR BUDGET REDUCTION, UM, IS A REQUIREMENT. 
          SO DEPARTMENTS, EVEN IF WE ASKED FOR NOTHING AND WE ASKED FOR NO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, WE STILL WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE TO IDENTIFY, UM, A 5% SAVINGS. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN IT'S NOT A ONE FOUR, WE ASKED FOR THESE POSITIONS. 
          SO THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING TO CUT FUNDING IN ANOTHER AREA. 
          IT JUST, THEY'RE SEPARATE PROCESSES AND THEY, THEY WORK DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO, 
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UM, WE WERE APPROVED FOR TWO ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS, WHICH ARE REALLY NEEDED TO SERVICE THE GROWING AUSTIN AREA AND TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO 3 1 1 CALLS. 
          UM, WE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, AN ALLOCATION FOR, FOR RENT, UM, FOR A POTENTIAL SATELLITE ADOPTION LOCATION. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAD A BUDGET NEUTRAL, UH, THING THAT WE ASKED FOR, WHICH WAS TO CONVERT, UM, TEMPORARY FUNDING TO FUND TWO REGULAR POSITIONS FOR OUR VET SERVICES TEAM. 
          SO TWO ANIMAL HEALTH TECHNICIANS, UM, WHICH WAS JUST REPURPOSING EXISTING BUDGET. 
          AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT TRANSFERRED AN HR ADVISOR POSITION TO US. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THREE, UH, THAT WAS BUDGET NEUTRAL. 
          UM, AND THEN BEFORE I GET TO THE REDUCTIONS, I'LL JUST CONTINUE AND EXPLAIN THE THINGS WE ASKED FOR. 
          UH, WE ALSO ASKED FOR, AND WERE APPROVED FOR A CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER AND A FINANCIAL MANAGER POSITION. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THIS BECAUSE ANIMAL SERVICES WAS AT ONE TIME, AS I, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE, AN OFFICE WITHIN AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, IT WAS A COMPONENT OF AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, I'M SORRY. 
          AND THEN IT BECAME AN OFFICE. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN USING SUPPORT SERVICES FROM AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          AND THIS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS PROBLEMATIC IN THAT NOT TO HAVE THOSE DEDICATED RESOURCES TO OVERSEE SUCH IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS AS, YOU KNOW, YOUR BUDGET. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THIS ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES, OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN MEET OUR NEEDS TO HAVE TIGHTER CONTROLS, YOU KNOW, OVER OUR BUDGET AND WHERE WE'RE SPENDING TO DO MORE ANALYSIS. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RIGHT FINANCIAL CONTROLS IN PLACE. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT IN WENT INTO THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL AND ASKING FOR THESE POSITIONS. 
          WE'VE TRIED TO BE FRUGAL. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, WE GOT A, AN HR POSITION FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'VE ASKED FOR THINGS OVER THE YEARS, SEVERAL YEARS BACK, WE GOT ONE IT POSITION, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT US. 
          UM, SO IT'S, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THESE BASIC SUPPORT POSITIONS IN ORDER FOR THE OPERATIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO SO THAT THEY'RE NOT UNFOCUSED AND HAVING TO HELP OUT IN AREAS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE EXPERTISE IN OR NOBODY'S WATCHING. 
          AND THEN YOU END UP, YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF ISSUES THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KNOW THE, THE REASONING BEHIND THE POSITIONS THAT WE ASKED FOR, UM, IN TERMS OF THE REDUCTIONS. 
          SO AGAIN, SEPARATE PROCESS. 
          THE CITY ASKED US TO IDENTIFY AREAS WE COULD REDUCE. 
          AND IN LOOKING AT THAT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE, WE ARE VERY, MOST OF OUR BUDGET IS PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, OF THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, 75%, THAT'S NOT ALREADY DE YOU KNOW, THAT'S UNUSABLE. 
          REALLY, IT'S FOR, UM, CITYWIDE, UH, FUN, UH, SUPPORT KIND OF SERVICES. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T WANNA LOOK AT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, QUITE HONESTLY, WE'RE, UM, UNDER, YOU KNOW, UNDER-RESOURCED IN MANY WAYS. 
          AND WE NEED OUR STAFF. 
          THEY'RE IMPORTANT THAT WE COULD NOT, THE WORK DEPENDS ON THEM. 
          SO THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WHATEVER ELSE, WE'VE GOTTA KEEP OUR STAFF WHOLE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OUR CONTRACTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR COMMODITIES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR, UM, LINE ITEMS. AND THOUGH THOSE ARE UNPOPULAR AND, UH, YOU KNOW, CHOICES. 
          AND I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND HOW IN LOOKING AT THOSE AND IN IT, IT, YOU KNOW, BEGS QUESTIONS. 
          THEY ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE BASIC SERVICES THAT, YOU KNOW, A SHELTER, UM, TYPICALLY PROVIDES. 
          SO, UM, THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WERE REDUCTION IN FUNDING FOR ANIMAL SPECIALTY SURGERY, UH, THE ANIMAL SPECIALTY SURGERIES CONTRACT, AND THE AMOUNT OF 160,000, SORRY, MY MOUTH IS GETTING VERY DRY. 
          UM, AND WITH THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH, UH, ABSORBING SOME OF WHAT IS LOST AND NOT MAINTAINING THAT CONTRACT. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE REDUCTION IN FUNDING FOR, UM, EMERGENCY, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, ON THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, ALTERNATIVE FUNDING TO SUPPORT EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR OUR OFFICERS, 
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UM, OUTSIDE OF NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. 
          UM, THAT IS ONE WHERE WE WERE PAYING THE FULL COST OF, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC COMING IN AND HAVING AN INJURED ANIMAL. 
          WHEREAS IN MOST, IN MOST CITIES, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PERSON WHO THE FINDER OR THE ANIMAL OWNER WHO IS, UM, IS, IS CHARGED WITH, UH, THESE SERVICES. 
          SO NOT, THERE WERE VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS TO MAKE, UH, BUT WE FELT THAT WE DID THE BEST THAT WE COULD, GIVEN THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAD. 
          AND WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, ALTERNATIVELY TO STILL, YOU KNOW, MEET, YOU KNOW, MEET THOSE NEEDS. 
          SO YOU GOT ONE MORE SLATE? YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO SOME, UH, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SPAY AND NEUTER EARLIER. 
          ELIZABETH DID A FANTASTIC JOB TALKING ABOUT THE GOOD FIX CLINICS. 
          UH, THIS SCREEN JUST SHOWS YOU, UM, THAT WE ARE ALLOCATING OVER $2 MILLION FOR SPAY AND NEUTER SUPPORT. 
          UM, AND WE'RE DOING THAT THROUGH, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT CONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES WITH EMANCIPET, UH, THE HUMANE SOCIETY, GREATER GOOD, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD FIX CLINICS THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, UM, A REFERRAL, UH, LIKE VOUCHER SYSTEM AS A SEPARATE CONTRACT THAT HAD BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAD OFFERED, UH, KIND OF ROLLED UP INTO ANOTHER CONTRACT. 
          SO JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BEST MEET THE NEEDS AND PROVIDE AS MUCH IN THE WAY, YOU KNOW, OF SPAY AND NEUTER SUPPORT, UH, AND, AND WORKING WITH VARIOUS PARTNERS AND MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, WHETHER IT'S COMING INTO THE SHELTER AND US BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE A VOUCHER FOR THEM OR A GOOD FIXED OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, GO TO A, A LOCATION THAT MIGHT BE CLOSER TO THEM IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, OR THROUGH EMANCIPATE AND THEIR MOBILE, UH, ANIMAL STERILIZATION PROGRAM OR THE COMMUNITY CATS PROGRAM WITH AUSTIN HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          SO THOSE ARE OUR PLANS FOR FUNDING FOR FY 26. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT, AND THEN I'LL CALL ON YOU COMMISSIONER TIES. 
          UM, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS ABOUT THE EMANCIPATE CONTRACT THAT EXISTS. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE WAS, UM, ONE OF OUR, UH, SPAY NEUTER WORKING GROUP ITERATIONS THAT WE HAD IN THE PAST. 
          UM, WE KIND OF DID A DEEP DIVE THERE AND I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS WELL THAT, AND HAVING SPOKEN WITH THE PEOPLE WHO RUN EMANCIPATE DIRECTLY, THEY'VE ALSO EXPRESSED THAT THEY, UM, DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE VETS ON STAFF TO MAKE ALL 1 MILLION OF THOSE DOLLARS OR WHATEVER PREVIOUS AMOUNTS OF DOLLARS ACTUALLY GO TO SPAY NEUTER. 
          AND A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO MICROCHIP AND VACCINE OUTREACH, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, UM, BUT IS ARGUABLY NOT, UH, AS MUCH OF A PRIORITY AS THE SPAY NEUTER PRIORITY. 
          SO CAN Y'ALL SPEAK TO, UM, WHAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN THAT CONTRACT AND, UH, ANY GUARANTEES OR SORT OF LIKE REPRIORITIZATION WITHIN THAT CONTRACT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FOCUSED ON SPAY NEUTER? SO THE FOCUS IS ON SPAY NEUTER, BUT THEY DO OFFER OTHER SERVICES, UM, AND PROVIDED YOU SUCH AS MICRO CHIPPING AND IMMUNIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THAT. 
          BUT IT IS, UM, THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THAT CONTRACT IS TO PROVIDE SPAY AND NEUTER SERVICE SERVICES. 
          I DON'T KNOW, ROLANDO, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT OR IF I, I YOU WERE, YOU WERE GETTING SOME, UH, BACKGROUND THEME MUSIC HERE, . 
          YES. 
          I, I CAN ANSWER THAT, THAT QUESTION. 
          UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HALL FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          UM, AND FOR INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE MADE AVAILABLE TO US, UH, REGARDING THOSE, THOSE FUNCTIONALITIES OF, UH, OF THE EMANCIPATE CONTRACT. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE DONE TO DATE IS WE'VE EXTENDED THEIR EXISTING CONTRACT, UH, TO COVER US UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE NEW CONTRACT AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH EMANCIPET, UM, FOR OTHER THINGS, RIGHT, OVERALL, BUT YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, UM, SETTING ASIDE, UM, TIME TO, UH, ANSWER, ASK QUESTIONS AND GET ANSWERS FROM THEM REGARDING THE SCOPE OF SERVICES. 
          AND SO, UH, WHERE WE ARE LANDING WITH THIS NEW, UH, CONTRACT IS A FOCUS OF ABOUT 75% OR MORE ON THE SPAY NEUTER FUNCTION. 
          SO IF WE'RE ALLOCATING A MILLION DOLLAR IS RIGHT, SEVEN 50 AT A MINIMUM, WE'LL GO SPECIFICALLY FOR SPAY NEUTER CONTRACTS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALSO HAVE DONE IS, UM, BECAUSE OF OUR BUDGET IS A, IS A LITTLE LOWER THIS TIME BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SPREAD THAT, UM, $2 MILLION ACROSS SEVERAL, UM, AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY IS, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THAT, UH, 
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THAT TWO DAY, UM, MOBILE CLINIC, UH, SET UP RATHER THAN THE FOUR. 
          UH, AND THAT ALSO ALLOWS EMANCIPET TO SERVE OTHER COMMUNITIES IN, IN OUR REGION, UH, BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT FOCUSED ON OURS. 
          SO REDUCING THAT TIMEFRAME, THAT FOCUS OF 75% AT A MINIMUM FOR SPAIN NEUTER RIGHT, REALLY KIND OF CARRIES US OUT THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE, WELL, WE'RE USING THAT $1 MILLION TO CARRY OVER THEIR CURRENT EXTENSION, BUT WHATEVER BALANCE IS REMAINING, THEN WE'LL UTILIZE THAT FOR THE REMAINING OF THE FISCAL, UH, YEAR FOR 2026. 
          AND SO WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND SPECIFICALLY GIVING THEM DIRECTION THAT AT A MINIMUM, SEVEN 50 GOES FOR A SPAYING NEUTER. 
          AND THEN WE DO, UH, THE, THE MICROCHIPPING, WE DO THE, UM, UH, SHOTS AND THEN WE ALSO DO THE WELLNESS CHECK THAT THEY DO. 
          UM, AND SO UNDERSTANDING ALL THOSE THINGS AND LOOKING AT THE DATA OF, UH, THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR REQUESTS THAT THEY GET FROM FOLKS IS WHERE WE LANDED AT. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          YOU BET. 
          COMMISSIONER ES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, THE BUDGET FOR SPAY NEUTER FOR 2026 FISCAL YEAR IS TWO A TOTAL OF 2 MILLION. 
          WHAT WAS THE BUDGET FOR 2025 OR 2024 FOR SPAY AND NEUTER TOTAL BUDGET. 
          THE, THE BUDGET WAS, IT WAS 19, IT WAS 1,000,900 SOME AMOUNT. 
          I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT IT WAS JUST UNDER 2 MILLION, SO IT WAS OKAY. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE INCREASE WAS MIN MINIMAL, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU'RE SPREADING AMONG DIFFERENT VENDORS OR CONTRACTORS THAT SPAY NEUTER. 
          IS THAT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT? UH, WE, YES. 
          WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT, THAT FOURTH, WHICH WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LIKELY GONNA GO THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS FOR THAT FOURTH CONTRACT, UM, WE, WE ACTUALLY DID A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION IN RFI TO SEE WHAT PROVIDERS WERE OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SUBMITTING, UM, TO A SOLICITATION FOR US FOR THESE TYPES OF SERVICES. 
          AND WITH THAT, WE, THE RESPONSE WE GOT BACK WAS KIND OF SUBSTANTIATED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE WORKING WITH THE PROVIDERS MOST INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA. 
          UM, SO WE HAD CONTRACTS IN PLACE LAST YEAR WITH EMANCIPET WITH GREATER GOOD AND, UH, WITH AUSTIN HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          SO WE, IT'S, WE'RE CONTINUING IN THAT, YOU KNOW, A RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UM, DONE A LITTLE SHUFFLING IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH WE WANNA SPEND WITH EACH AND, AND ADDED THAT FOURTH OPTION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND LASTLY, UM, FOR THE BUDGET, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR THAT NOW'S CONCLUDING FOR 2025 AND THEN COMPARE TO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR OF 2026, WHAT IS THE BASE, UH, LINE OR NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AT AUSTIN ANIMAL? SO WE, WE WENT FROM 128.5 TO 1 35 0.5. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER LINDER, AND THEN I'LL GET YOU. 
          UM, THANKS SO MUCH, UH, FOR, FOR THE UPDATE ON THIS. 
          UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS SORT OF, UH, PIGGYBACKING OFF COMMISSIONER HOLT'S QUESTION, BUT I KNOW ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, UM, SPAY NEUTER WORKING GROUP THAT FOCUSED ON, ON THOSE CONTRACTS, UM, WITH THIRD PARTY VENDORS WAS SORT OF THE NEED TO PRIORITIZE, UM, SPAYS FOR LARGE FEMALE DOGS. 
          UM, AND THAT, UM, THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME SORT OF MISMATCH, UM, FROM, FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, WHERE THERE WAS THE HIGHEST NEED, WHICH, WHICH WAS IN THAT CATEGORY, AND THEN, UM, THE, THE SURGERIES THAT, THAT WERE BEING OFFERED. 
          UM, AND SO I GUESS I'M WONDERING IS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH EMANCIPATE OR OR OTHER VENDORS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT SOME PERCENTAGE OF THAT 75% GOES TOWARDS, UM, THAT, THAT REALLY HIGH NEED CATEGORY OF, OF LARGE, UH, LARGE BREED FEMALE DOGS? YEAH, MY APOLOGIES. 
          I WAS, UM, ANSWERING THE SPECIFIC QUESTION REGARDING THE ALLOCATION OF THE PRIORITIZATION FOR SPAY NEUTERING, BUT UH, I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE, WE DID RAISE THAT, UH, UM, PRIORITIZATION OF, OF DOGS AND, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIUM TO LARGE DOGS AS WELL. 
          UM, AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO MAN, I KNOW, UH, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON BOARD, UH, SIX MONTHS AGO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT DELAY IN SCHEDULING THOSE MEETINGS OF LARGE STOCKS TO EMANCIPATE AND, UH, WE MADE THAT CLEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AND ACTUALLY, UH, HOSTED A MEETING BETWEEN, UH, THE CITY 
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OF AUSTIN, UH, EMANCIPATE AND TRAVIS COUNTY AS WELL. 
          UM, AND, AND, UM, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM FROM EMANCIPATE, AS WE MEET WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS, UH, THEY'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING TO US AND SHOWING US HOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO MINIMIZE THAT, UH, SCHEDULING RIGHT, OF THOSE SURGERIES, UM, BECAUSE OF THEIR PRIORITIZATION FOR THAT. 
          SO THE SAME LEVEL OF DIRECTION THAT WE PROVIDED IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE 75%, UH, MINIMUM THRESHOLD FOR SPAY AND NEUTER, UH, HAVING THAT FOCUS OF THAT RESOURCES FOR THOSE MEETING TO LARGE DOGS. 
          AND SO, UH, THAT'S BEEN REALLY CLEAR. 
          UM, AS MELISSA TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE, THE, THE POSITION THAT WE RE REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, THOSE ARE GONNA HELP US PROVIDE THAT OVERSIGHT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT COMPLIANCE, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT AND, AND WE'RE HAVING, UH, WE MEET REGULARLY WITH EMANCIPATE LEADERSHIP AND, AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS IS LOOKING FOR THOSE THINGS, UH, AND GETTING THOSE REPORT. 
          AND SO WE'VE ALSO ASKED FOR REPORT OUT AS WELL OF THEIR, OF THEIR, UH, ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON THE, ON THE REGULAR BASIS. 
          SO, UM, UH, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION WE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE'RE MONITORING THAT. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY QUESTION, COMMISSIONER LOMAN? UM, THANKS FOR THE REPORT, BY THE WAY. 
          THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING IN TERMS OF THE PERSONNEL AND I, I, ROLANDO AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT VERY SHORTLY BEFORE, SO IT WAS VERY HELPFUL. 
          UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I GOT, IF I'M CONFUSED ON THE NUMBERS, BUT WASN'T, UM, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES PORTION OF THE BUDGET THAT ENDED UP GETTING CUT, WASN'T SOME OF THAT SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED BY THE CHANGE IN THE CODE FOR THE SPAY ABORT? YES. 
          IS THAT STILL A POSSIBILITY? IS THAT, WHERE IS THAT STAND? SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER LANE DID PUT FORWARD A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND, UM, WE, UH, ARE TRYING TO, SO IT, IT, IT ISN'T A, IT, IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FEEL CONFIDENT, I GUESS, THAT THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD INDEED RESULT IN THE SAVINGS THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW US TO FUND AN EMERGENCY SERVICES CONTRACT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOLDING, YOU KNOW, FUNDS IN ANOTHER AREA IN CASE THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT . 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHAT IT WAS WITH, UH, WITH THE, UM, THE CHANGE TO THE CODE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD MEAN WE WOULD HAVE FEWER BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS TO CARE FOR AND, AND THAT THAT AMOUNT COULD THEN BE USED, UH, FOR THESE EMERGENCY SERVICES. 
          BUT, UM, HAVING WORKED, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN ONLY WITH THE SHELTER SINCE APRIL, AND IT JUST, THE MORE SPACE WE HAVE, THE MORE IT FILLS UP , YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS IN, YOU KNOW, AREAS THEY SHOULDN'T BE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EVEN MY STAFF WALK DOGS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY. 
          AND SO WE JUST DIDN'T FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA MONITOR IT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S THE CASE. 
          BUT AS A SAFETY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SET ASIDE OTHER FUNDS TO, TO HELP WITH SOME OF THAT. 
          AND IT'S PRIMARILY FOR OUR ANIMAL PROTECTION TEAM. 
          AND WHEN THEY HAVE, UM, FIND IT'S, IT DOESN'T REPLACE OR WOULDN'T REPLACE THE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO COME IN AND HAVE THOSE, UM, UH, THAT THOSE COSTS COVERED BY THE CITY, IT'S MORE FOR AFTER HOURS IN ROLANDO. 
          IF YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING, FEEL FREE TO, BUT FOR OUR ANIMAL PROTECTION TEAM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE OUT AND THEY HAVE FIND AN INJURED ANIMAL, THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ANIMAL'S CARED FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          IF I CAN ADD JUST SOMETHING REALLY QUICKLY ON THAT, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REQUIREMENT TOO IS THAT WHEN WE GO IN THEIR CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY, SO WHEN WE, THERE WAS NO CONTRACT WITH THE EMERGENCY CARE PROVIDER, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY NOT A GOOD THING, BUT WE'RE BEYOND THAT. 
          AND SO WHEN WE DO THIS SERVICE, IT'LL BE A CONTRACT. 
          YOU HAVE TO, UM, PUT THE MONEY SET ASIDE, YOU KNOW, AND HOLD IT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA COMMIT TO BEING ABLE TO PAY YOU FOR THE SERVICES THAT YOU RENDER ON OUR BEHALF. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE ALSO NEED TO SET THAT PLACEHOLDER AS A, AS A BACKUP IN TERMS OF WE DON'T RECEIVE THAT SAVINGS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, AS MELISSA TALKED ABOUT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY, WE'RE ABLE BE ABLE TO PAY IT FOR THE SERVICE THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO US. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE MADE THE DECISION TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE AROUND THE MONEY, MANAGE THAT AND PROVIDE THAT OVERSIGHT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          NO, I TOTALLY GET THAT PART. 
          AND I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I WAS JUST, 'CAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE WAS A PRETTY CONFIDENT, UM, PLAN THAT THE CHANGE IN THE CODE WAS GONNA SAVE US SAVE THE SHELTER MONEY. 
          UM, SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          YEAH, WE JUST, WE JUST WANNA BE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT IT AND MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, UH, IT, IT MAY, BUT IF NOT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PAY FOR SERVICES 
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PROVIDED BY, YOU KNOW, A VENDOR. 
          I THAT, THANKS, APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ANYBODY HAVE A FIRST QUESTION? UM, COMMISSIONER FERGUSON, UM, AND YOU MIGHT'VE EXPLAINED THIS, SO I'M SORRY IF I MISSED IT, BUT THE PARTIAL FUNDING FOR THE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE THE ADDITIONAL FTES AS WELL? AND WHY IS IT JUST PARTIAL FUNDING? SO THE PARTIAL FUNDING IS BECAUSE THERE'S, UM, SOME, UM, WE, THERE WAS, UM, CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO IT. 
          WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO FILL THE POSITION SO YOU HAVE SOME VACANCY SAVINGS BEFORE YOU DO FILL IT. 
          AND SO IT'S, IT'S PARTIAL FUNDING, BUT IT'S A REGULAR FULL-TIME POSITION, YOU KNOW, FULLY COVERED IN THE FOLLOWING, UH, FISCAL YEAR IN 27. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER HOLT, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND QUESTION? YES. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT MELISSA SAID CORRECTLY. 
          SO, CURRENTLY THE FUNDS THAT ARE ESTIMATED TO BE SAVED BY THE NEW, UM, RULE THAT CAME THROUGH CRYSTAL LANE'S OFFICE IS BEING SET ASIDE AND IS CURRENTLY BEING PRIORITIZED FOR ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS WITH AFTER HOURS EMERGENCIES. 
          BUT IS POTENTIALLY IF THOSE COST SAVINGS ARE ACCUMULATED OVER TIME, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THIS WOULD BRING THIS PROGRAM BACK? OR DID I, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? UM, I, ROLANDO I'M GONNA LET YOU YEAH. 
          ANSWER THAT. 
          I DON'T WANNA GET THAT WRONG. 
          SO OUR, OUR PROGRAM HAS DEFINED FOR THE EMERGENCY CARE, UH, SERVICE CONTRACT IS MOVING FORWARD, UH, ONLY FOR USE FOR ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS FOR THOSE AFTER HOUR CALLS. 
          UM, UM, AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? BUT THAT'S, THAT'S OUR COMMITMENT FOR THIS PROGRAM, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I HAD A, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, MORE LIKE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER CLINTON, TWO MEETINGS AGO, UM, RECOMME MADE WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A VERY ASTUTE OBSERVATION THAT IT MIGHT BE WORTH DOING AN RFP OR AN RFSI FORGET THE PROPER TERMS, UM, TO SEE IF THERE, 'CAUSE I HAVE BEEN TO THAT CLINIC AND IT IS A WONDERFUL CLINIC, AND IT IS ALSO A EXTREMELY PRICEY CLINIC. 
          SO I WONDER IF THERE ARE OTHER CLINICS THAT COULD PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY CARE AND MAYBE STRETCH THOSE DOLLARS FURTHER. 
          SO JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE AS ONE, UH, AVENUE TO EXPLORE. 
          UM, IF, IF IT WASN'T THAT PARTICULAR CLINIC PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, IF MAYBE THERE WAS SOMEWHERE WE COULD FIND, UM, THAT COULD DO IT AND, AND MAKE THE DOLLAR STRETCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER. 
          HOPE WE CAN, WE CAN CONSIDER YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING, JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO DR. 
          UH ELLIOT AND, AND, UH, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR JASON GARZA WAS AT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME THAT THIS CONTRACT IS, WELL, THIS SERVICE WAS PUT TOGETHER, AGREED TO, UM, UM, IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. 
          I BELIEVE THEY WERE THE ONLY, UM, BUSINESS IN TOWN THAT PROVIDED THAT SERVICE. 
          THIS IS 15 PLUS YEARS AGO. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S MORE, UH, OF THOSE SERVICES ALREADY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND SO WE, WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING IS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A OF INTEREST, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF FINDING OURSELVES IN OUR TOUR ALREADY, AND WE JUST HAD SO MUCH GOING ON AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE, UH, MAKE CAPACITY FOR EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN CHALLENGING, BUT, UM, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO GET THE BEST PRICING POSSIBLE AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE FOR OUR STAFF, RIGHT. 
          WHEN OUR, OUR APOS OFFICER. 
          SO WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE SHELTER WAS NEVER PAYING WHAT THE PUBLIC PAYS AT THAT EMERGENCY CLINIC. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, WELL WE WERE, WE WERE USING ALL OF OUR BUDGET, THAT'S FOR SURE. 
          SO, UH, EASY TO DO. 
          YEAH. 
          PRETTY FAST. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BASED ON THAT, UM, PRESENTATION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          CLARIFIED A LOT. 
          AND WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM ON THAT. 
          OH YES, I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS JUST THINKING, UH, MELISSA POOLE FOR HER PRESENTATION AND HER CLARIFICATION ON THE BUDGET. 
          THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BACK TO YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          HI COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED AUGUST 13TH IN SURGERY. 
          UM, ON THAT PARTICULAR WEDNESDAY, THERE WAS A MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE IN PREPARING THE SURGICAL SCRUB. 
          THE PREPARATION PROCESS IS TO FILL A METAL CONT METAL CONTAINER WITH SURGICAL SCRUB CALLED NOVAS SAND IN A SECOND METAL CONTAINER WITH ISOPREL ALCOHOL. 
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A LARGE AMOUNT OF GAUZE IS PLACED IN TWO EACH OF THE METAL CONTAINERS. 
          THESE, SO GAZES ARE USED TO PREPARE THE ANIMAL'S SKIN FOR SURGERY. 
          ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE SURGERY CASELOAD, THE TEXTS MAY NEED TO TOP OFF THE ALCOHOL IN THE CONTAINER. 
          WHEN THIS HAPPENED, ONE OF THE TECHS REACHED FOR THE BOTTLE THAT IS STORED UNDER THE SINK THINKING THEY REACHED FOR THE ALCOHOL. 
          THEY ACTUALLY REACHED FOR THE FORMULA ONE. 
          THIS PERSON DID NOT CONFIRM THAT THE BOTTLE WAS CORRECT, UM, DID NOT CONFIRM THAT THE BOTTLE WAS THE CORRECT BOTTLE BY READING THE MANUFACTURED LABEL ON THE BOTTLE. 
          THE PREVIOUSLY USED EMPTY ALCOHOL BOTTLE WAS IN THE RECYCLE BIN AND WAS NOT RESTOCKED FROM ITS USE. 
          EARLIER THAT MORNING, ONCE THE PATIENTS WERE IN SURGERY, UM, THE VETERINARIAN NOTED THAT HER EYES WERE BURNING WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF THE CAUSE. 
          AT THIS POINT, WE DID GO AHEAD AND CANCEL SURGERY TO TRY TO DECIPHER WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          UM, WITH THAT WE DID CONTACT BUILDING SERVICES AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THE ROOM WAS VACATED. 
          THE TECHNICIANS WENT AHEAD AND REMOVED ALL OF THE ANIMALS THAT WERE IN RECOVERY AT THAT TIME INTO A DIFFERENT ROOM. 
          AND, UM, THE PEOPLE ALSO LEFT THAT ROOM. 
          UM, WE DID, UM, DO SOME FOLLOW-UP CALLS AFTER THE INCIDENT. 
          UM, SO MOST OF THE SURGERY ANIMALS DID WELL UNDER ANESTHESIA AND STUFF, WENT HOME TO THEIR FOSTERS THE FOLLOWING DAY. 
          WE WENT AHEAD AND DID SOME FOLLOW UP CALLS, 'CAUSE IT WAS THE FOLLOWING DAY THAT WE ACTUALLY DISCOVERED IT WAS FORMULA AND THAT HAD CAUSED THIS PROBLEM. 
          IT WASN'T DISCOVERED AT THAT INITIAL TIME WHEN WE WERE, WHEN THE STAFF WAS SEEING SOME, UM, CHANGES TO THEIR EYES AND HAVING SOME DISCOMFORT. 
          SO THE FOLLOWING DAY WE REALIZED IT WAS THIS MISHAP HAD OCCURRED AND WE WENT AHEAD AND CALLED ALL THE SURGERY ANIMALS AND JUST MADE CONTACT WITH THEM, TRIED TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY HAD ANY CLINICAL SIGNS OR ANYTHING. 
          UM, ABOUT THREE DAYS AFTER THE SURGERY, A DOG NAMED LITTLE MAN WAS REPORTED FOR SYMPTOMS OF CONTACT DERMATITIS. 
          SO, UM, WE WENT AHEAD AND, UM, MANAGED THAT CASE. 
          WE TREATED HIM WITH ANTIBIOTICS AS WELL AS PAIN MEDICATION MONITORING HIM. 
          SHE WAS ACTUALLY EMAILING ME EVERY FIVE DAYS JUST TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH HIM. 
          HE HAS, UM, HE HAS HEALED PERFECTLY FINE DURING THAT PROCESS AND IS, UM, LIVING A HAPPY LIFE WITH HIS FAMILY. 
          UM, THE SECOND CASE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, I THINK THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE COMMISSION EITHER LAST MONTH OR THE MONTH BEFORE, WAS A DOG NAMED WALTER, WHO WAS IN FOSTER. 
          UM, WALTER'S PHONE CALL REPORTED THAT THE INCISION WAS DOING WELL, BUT THAT HE WAS SHOWING UPPER RESPIRATORY SIGNS. 
          SO WE DID START HIM ON SOME, UH, UPPER RESPIRATORY MEDICATION ABOUT THREE DAYS AFTER THE SURGERY. 
          UM, HIS UNFORTUNATELY, HIS CONDITION PROGRESSED BEYOND JUST AN UPPER RESPIRATORY INFECTION AND INTO PNEUMONIA AND COUGH, COUGHING AND EPISTASIS AND, AND APPETITE. 
          AT THAT POINT, HE WAS TAKEN TO THE EMERGENCY CLINIC FOR OVERNIGHT CARE, AT WHICH TIME OUR SURGEON DID SPEAK TO THAT ER DOCTOR. 
          UM, HE RETURNED TO THE SHELTER THE FOLLOWING MORNING AND RECEIVED FOLLOW-UP CARE AND MANAGEMENT. 
          HE HAS SINCE RECOVERED FROM PNEUMONIA, IS HAPPILY BACK INTO HIS FOSTER HOME. 
          SO, UM, I DID WANT YOU GUYS TO ALSO KNOW THAT DURING THIS WHOLE INCIDENT WE DID ORDER A, A CHEMICAL BOX FOR STORAGE OF FORMULA IN WHICH YOU CAN SEE THAT BOX. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WAS BETTER THAN CHECKING OUT LITTLE MAN . 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT WAS PURCHASED ALL THE BOTTLES OF FORMULA IN ARE NOW STORED IN THAT BOX, WHICH IS LOCATED IN OUR STORAGE CLOSET. 
          UM, RIGHT AFTER THIS INCIDENT, I DID COMMUNICATE THIS WITH OUR TEAM. 
          I SENT OUT AN EMAIL STATING THAT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR TEAM TO RESPECT ON, REFLECT ON OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          WE HANDLED DRUGS, CHEMICALS, AND ANIMALS. 
          IN THIS SITUATION, ONE MISTAKE AFFECTED MULTIPLE TEAMS, INDIVIDUALS, AND THE ANIMALS. 
          WE MUST ALWAYS CONFIRM WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          PAUSE TO FOCUS AND CONFIRM WHAT YOU'RE USING, POURING, DRAWING UP, ADMINISTERING AND HANDLING THIS EXTRA TIME KEEPS, UM, I WAS RE EMAILING THE STAFF. 
          SO THIS EXTRA TIME KEEPS YOU THOSE AROUND YOU AND EVERY ANIMAL SAFE WE NEED TO WORK WITHOUT DISTRACTION. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I ALSO INDIVIDUALLY DISCUSSED THE ACCIDENT, UM, APPLICATION OF THE ACCIDENTAL APPLICATION OF FORMULA AND BEING USED IN THE SURGICAL PREP CONTAINER WITH EACH MEMBER. 
          UM, I HAD THIS DISCUSSION INDIVIDUALLY WITH THEM. 
          FORMALIN AS YOU, HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T KNOW, HAS A PUNGENT ODOR THAT HARMS ALL OF OUR MUCOCUTANEOUS JUNCTIONS. 
          THOSE INCLUDE THE NOSE, MOUTH, AND EYES. 
          UM, STEPPING OUT OF THE ROOM TO GET INTO THE AREA WITH FRESH AIR IS THE ONLY OPTION TO LESSEN THIS DISCOMFORT. 
          WE DID HEAR THAT SEVERAL OF THE STAFF HAD KIND OF STEPPED OUT, BUT WHEN THEY RETURNED TO THAT ROOM, THEY CONTINUED TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF EXPOSURE. 
          UM, AND THEY DID NOT TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT IT. 
          IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP TO US UNTIL THE VETERINARIAN SAID, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? UM, I ALSO TALKED TO THE TEAM THAT THEY'VE GOTTA 
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TALK TO EACH OTHER. 
          THEY NEED TO NOTIFY THEIR MANAGERS AND SUPERVISORS WHEN THINGS ARE, UM, OUT OF THE NORMAL. 
          SINCE THIS TIME, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING, UH, MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT AREAS OF, UH, VET SERVICES. 
          SO JUST TO HELP KEEP THIS UP ON THE FOREFRONT. 
          UM, AND I DID WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, WE, I AM ASKING OUR STAFF TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND TO, UM, SPEAK UP SO OTHERS DON'T GET INJURED. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          VERY THANK YOU THOROUGH, UM, DISCUSSION OF THAT INCIDENT. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, ON THIS PORTION OF THIS BRIEFING ITEM? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S DONE WITH NUMBER THREE. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ALL THE, BY MY CALCULATION, THAT'S ALL OF THE STAFF BRIEFINGS FOR THIS EVENING. 
          EVERYBODY AGREED? YOU HAVE A NUMBER SEVEN. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO DO WE, SO YOU WOULD LIKE US TO SKIP FIVE AND SIX? IT'S SO IT IS, I, I'M HERE. 
          UH, I I'M HERE UNTIL Y'ALL ARE HERE AND I CAN STAY HERE AND DO THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU CAN BRING IT BACK, BUT IT'S YOUR Y'ALL CALL. 
          I'M SUPPORT. 
          IF IT IS OKAY WITH STAFF, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO, UM, YES, PLEASE. 
          TO APAS PRESENTATION 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN WAITING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON TO 
          [5. Presentation by Austin Pets Alive! regarding license agreement reports. ]
DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PRESENTATION BY A PA REGARDING LICENSE AGREEMENT REPORTS. 
          HELLO. 
          HI, COMMISSION. 
          UH, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE BR. 
          I AM THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE. 
          UM, I AM HERE TO SPEAK TO OUR LICENSE AGREEMENT REPORTS, UM, THAT WE DID SEND IN JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. 
          I'LL BE FOCUSING MOSTLY ON SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, BUT OF COURSE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THEM. 
          UM, WE HAD A VERY BUSY QUARTER BETWEEN FLOOD RESPONSE AND, UM, WE OPENED OUR NEW CLINIC, UM, IN, UH, SUNSET VALLEY. 
          UM, ALSO AT THE BEGINNING OF JULY. 
          UM, WE HAD THE UNFORTUNATE BREAK IN INCIDENT IN AUGUST. 
          UM, AND IN SEPTEMBER, UM, WE HAVE BEEN JUST WORKING ON TRANSITIONING ALL OF OUR SERVICES, UM, AND WORKING OUT THE KINKS AND BEING NOW IN AN ADDITIONAL LOCATION. 
          SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING MISSING FROM THESE , UH, APOLOGIES. 
          UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THAT IS ALSO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO, UM, IN PARTICULAR, UH, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE, OR POINT OUT THE BEHAVIOR POLLS. 
          'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DOGS ON THE RPL, UM, AND ALL OF THOSE. 
          WE DID TAKE THOSE DOGS. 
          THOSE DOGS WENT TO A PA. 
          UM, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, WE'RE THE ONLY PARTNER RIGHT NOW THAT'S PULLING LARGE BEHAVIOR DOGS. 
          UM, THOUGH WE DO WISH THAT MORE RESCUES WOULD BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. 
          UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, HELP SPEAK TO OR EVEN VET ANY OTHER PARTNERS THAT MIGHT COME FORWARD, UM, INTERESTED IN THAT. 
          SO, UM, AND WE'RE, OUR, OUR TEAM IS CURRENTLY WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE A A C TEAM, UM, TO KIND OF SMOOTH OUT THAT PROCESS, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR BEHAVIOR TRANSFERS GOING FORWARD. 
          SO I KNOW NOW THERE'S A, THE TEAM IS GOING OVER WEEKLY AND MEETING DOGS ON THE LIST AND, AND TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT, UM, ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS, UM, WHICH IS A SYSTEM WE HAD IN PLACE MANY YEARS AGO THAT JUST WENT AWAY OVER THE YEARS. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE RE-ENGAGING WITH THAT. 
          UM, AND, AND WORKING WITH THE A A C TEAM TO TRY TO GET THOSE DOGS, UM, THE BEST OUTCOME THAT WE CAN. 
          UM, SO AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, UM, A PA HAD PULLED 1,720 ANIMALS IN TOTAL FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER. 
          UM, THAT IS ABOUT 30% ABOVE THE GOAL. 
          SO FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, OUR CURRENT LICENSE AGREEMENT, WHICH GIVES US THE ABILITY TO USE THE TELAC FACILITY, REQUIRES THAT WE PULL 12% OF, UM, AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER'S INTAKE. 
          IT'S CALCULATED BASED ON THE YEAR BEFORE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T BASE THE NUMBER ON A NUMBER THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET FOR THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO THE GOAL NUMBER WAS 1,330 ANIMALS. 
          UM, AND WE PULLED 1,720 ANIMALS, UM, THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER. 
          UH, IN TOTAL FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, THAT AMOUNTED TO ABOUT 15.5% OF THE PRIOR YEAR INTAKE. 
          UM, AND JUST ABOUT THE SAME AS AS THE CURRENT YEAR INTAKE AS WELL. 
          UM, AS HAS BEEN TYPICAL, THE HAD THE ANIMALS THAT WE TOOK FROM AENA ANIMAL CENTER BEEN EUTHANIZED, UM, OR DIED IN THEIR CARE. 
          THINGS LIKE BOTTLE BABIES AND 
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SUCH THAT, UM, PRESUMABLY NEED TO COME TO US FOR, FOR LIFESAVING CARE. 
          UM, WE HAVE CALCULATED THAT A AACS LIVE RELEASE RATE, AND SORRY, THIS ALL STILL SAYS A A C, UM, WOULD BE ABOUT 80%, UM, IF THOSE ANIMALS WERE NOT COMING TO A PA, UM, AND WERE INSTEAD BEING EUTHANIZED, UM, OR, OR DYING IN CARE. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST FOR A COUPLE END OF YEAR SUMMARY NUMBERS, UM, 94% OF OF THE TRANSFERS THAT WE PULLED WERE DIRECTLY FROM THE AT-RISK LIST. 
          SO THOSE ARE YOUR MEDICALLY COMPROMISED ANIMALS, YOUR BEHAVIOR AT-RISK ANIMALS, UM, REQUIRED POPULATIONS LIKE PARVO POSITIVE DOGS, WHICH WE DO HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING THAT IS PLED TO US, THAT IS PARVO POSITIVE. 
          THERE WERE 101 OF THOSE. 
          THERE WERE ALMOST 750 BOTTLE BABY KITTENS. 
          UM, AND IN TOTAL WE BROUGHT OVER 70 BEHAVIOR PROGRAM DOGS. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE WERE AN ADDITIONAL, UM, 448 MEDICALLY COMPROMISED ANIMALS AND 158 PREGNANT AND NURSING ANIMALS. 
          SO THAT WAS FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR. 
          UM, I THINK THAT IS REALLY IT THAT WE WANTED TO POINT OUT. 
          WE CAN KEEP THIS BRIEF, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS AS WELL HAVE QUESTION. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, I, I JUST HAVE ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          JUST, I SEE HERE THAT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU PUT THE ACTUAL DIRECT TRANSFERS, UM, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL BORN IN CARE ONES FROM ANIMALS TAKEN FROM A A C AND AND PASS DIVERSION. 
          BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU ARE CALCULATING YOUR PERCENTAGE, YOU ONLY USE THE DIRECT TRANSFERS, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT SUPER BRIEF COMMENT. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY THANK Y'ALL FOR MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE TAKING THOSE ANIMALS, UM, PARVO, PUPPIES, BOTTLE BABIES, BEHAVIOR DOGS, THOSE ARE ALL SUPER HIGH NEEDS. 
          AND I JUST, I WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP. 
          SURE. 
          COMMISSIONER DANIEL, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, YOUR BARN CAT PROGRAM AND RETURN TO FIELD MM-HMM . 
          I SEE THERE'S NO ANIMALS THAT ARE RETURNED TO FIELD MM-HMM . 
          UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A TNR PROGRAM, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          UM, SO IF YOU GET LIKE A FERAL CAT THAT COMES OVER THAT'S INJURED, DOES THAT GO INTO YOUR BARN CAT PLACEMENT PROGRAM OR, AND IS THAT LISTED AS ADOPTION OR IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD THE BARN CAT PLACEMENT PROGRAM ON YOUR OUTCOMES? BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF THAT WEIRD. 
          NOT REALLY A TRADITIONAL ADOPTION, BUT IT'S NOT RETURN TO FIELD. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST SO WE CAN SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE CATS, UM, I THINK NINE CATS WERE PULLED FOR BEHAVIOR AND THOSE ARE TRADITIONALLY, UM, LIKE THE SNR CATS THAT COME IN THAT DON'T HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO RETURN, SO THEY GO THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THOSE CATS ARE GOING. 
          YOU'RE, YOU MEAN FOR THE ONES THAT WE'RE PULLING FROM A A C SPECIFICALLY? YES. 
          FROM A C YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE A COUPLE, UM, IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WAS AN OWNER SURRENDER THAT ENDED UP IN BARN CAT AND WE REACHED OUT TO YOU ALL AND SAID MM-HMM  THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          AND YOU MOVED HIM TO REGULAR ADOPTION. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS A COMMUNITY CAT THAT WAS IN THE CACTUS CAT PROGRAM. 
          BOTH THESE CATS YOU GUYS PULLED FOR SPACE POOLS. 
          UM, AND HE ENDED UP BARN CAT AND A A C ENDED UP GETTING HIM BACK AND GETTING HIM ADOPTED INTO A HOME. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, MY HOPE IS THERE'S NOT LIKE OWNER SURRENDERS OR ADOPTABLE CATS THAT ARE GOING INTO THE BARN PLACEMENT. 
          SO JUST TO BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE OUTCOMES FOR TRANSPARENCY WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AND GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE CAN FIGURE OUT, WE DO PROCESS THEM AS ADOPTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND SO, SO MAYBE LIKE A SUBCATEGORY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN SEE, UM, IF WE'RE ABLE TO PULL THAT OUT. 
          AND JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT OUR BARN CAT ADOPTION PROGRAM, UM, PEOPLE, IF, IF THEY'RE COMING FROM A A C AND, AND IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT THERE MAY POTENTIALLY BE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS THAT SPECIFIC CAT BACK MM-HMM . 
          WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO WORK WITH VET SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T COME AND CHOOSE WHICH CATS THEY WANT TYPICALLY FROM THE ADOPTION PROGRAM. 
          SO THE BARN CAT, BECAUSE OUR CATS ACTUALLY LIVE IN BARNS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE WHICH ONES YOU'RE GONNA CATCH THAT DAY. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY COMES AND SAYS, I WANNA ADOPT FOUR CATS FOR MY WAREHOUSE, WE, IT'S LITERALLY JUST THE FOUR, THE FIRST FOUR CATS WE CATCH, THAT'S WHO GOES. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE KNOWN WHERE THEY CAME FROM, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REPORT THAT. 
          BUT, UM, BUT YEAH. 
          AND, AND SO GO AHEAD. 
          ANY CATS THAT COME IN THAT HAVE A KNOWN CAREGIVER MM-HMM . 
          SO COMING FROM A C SAY THEY'RE MEDICAL CASE, HAVE A KNOWN CAREGIVER, HOW DO YOU OUTCOME THEM? IS IT AN ADOPTION OR IS THAT A RETURN TO FIELD? WE WOULD STILL ALWAYS PROCESS IT AS AN ADOPTION. 
          SO YEAH, HAVING THAT LIKE SUBFIELD WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE REASON WE DON'T DO LIKE RETURN TO FIELD OR TNR IS 'CAUSE 
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THAT, I MEAN THAT THE PROGRAM DOESN'T TECHNICALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT CATCHING AND THEN RE-RELEASING THEM AND WE'RE NOT THE ONES TAKING THEM AS SURRENDERS. 
          SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE FASCINATING TOO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A PROPER PLACE TO ASK FOR IT OR IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING MAYBE TO PRESENT ON THE BARN CAT PROGRAM SO PEOPLE CAN LEARN ABOUT IT MORE. 
          I'M SURE. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE AGENDA? COME TALK ABOUT THAT , THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE AND I'M SURE MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW IT IS REALLY A LIFELINE FOR OTHER SHELTERS TOO WHO DON'T HAVE, UM, WHO DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF, THEY WOULD JUST EUTHANIZE ALL OF THOSE CATS ALL OF THE TIME ALL OVER CENTRAL TEXAS. 
          SO. 
          WELL AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. 
          UM, YEAH, IF YOU GUYS JUST WANNA LET US KNOW IF THAT'S NEXT MONTH OR WHEN THAT MIGHT BE IN THE FUTURE, I CAN TAP A COUPLE PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          SO, OH, SORRY, , I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION WITH THIS. 
          I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION SO WE CAN ASK. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT FOR HER. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SORRY ABOUT THE LONG WAIT . 
          LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION BEING SHARED TODAY. 
          YES. 
          UH, CHAIR, I WAS WONDERING, UM, SINCE UM, UH, MR. FERNANDEZ SAID HE WAS GONNA HEAR FOR THE DURATION, IF WE SHOULD MOVE, UM, SEVEN AND EIGHT UP, UM, ON THE BIRD ITEM AND THEN GO BACK TO SIX. 
          YES. 
          ANY, UM, SO DIRECTOR FERNANDEZ OR INTERIM DIRECTOR FERNANDEZ IS NOT OBJECTING ANY OBJECTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS? ALRIGHT, WITHOUT OBJECTION. 
          YES. 
          CAN WE PLEASE MOVE UP TO, UM, DISCUSSION ITEM 
          [7. Presentation regarding Staffs response to Council Resolution 20241121-073 related to Bird-Friendly design by Leslie Lilly, Environmental Conservation Program Manager, Watershed Protection Department. ]
NUMBER SEVEN, PRESENTATION REGARDING STAFF'S RESPONSE TO COUNCIL RESOLUTION 20 24 11 21 DASH OH 73 RELATED TO BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN BY LESLIE LILLY, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION PROGRAM MANAGER, WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          I AM LILY REICH AND I'M HERE WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO THE BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN RESOLUTION PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL LAST NOVEMBER. 
          I, ALONG WITH MY FELLOW WATERSHED PROTECTION INTERNS, CONTRIBUTED TO THE RESEARCH EFFORT FOR THE REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          THIS TOPIC IS PARTICULARLY MEANINGFUL TO ME BECAUSE I LOVE BIRDS AND I FIND APPRECIATING THEM HELPS ME CONNECT TO MY COMMUNITY AND THE NATURAL WORLD AROUND ME BETTER. 
          I WANT TO BE AN ORNITHOLOGIST WHEN I GROW UP AND CONSIDERING HOW MUCH JOY I OWE TO BIRDS, I'M ALL THE MORE GRATEFUL THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS TAKING STEPS TO ADDRESS THE FUTURE OF BIRDS AND THEIR BENEFITS IN THE CITY. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING THIS ISSUE AND I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO LESLIE LILY. 
          THANK YOU LILY SO MUCH. 
          WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF HAVING LILY AS AN INTERN THROUGH THE CITY'S HIGH SCHOOL INTERNSHIP PROGRAM OVER THE SUMMER AND IT WAS WONDERFUL TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SUCH AN INSPIRATIONAL YOUNG VOICE CONTRIBUTE TO THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING ON THIS RESPONSE. 
          SO, UM, HELLO, MY NAME IS LESLIE LILY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONERS FOR, UH, CONSIDERING THIS ISSUE TONIGHT. 
          AND, UM, I AM AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION PROGRAM MANAGER WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION AND I ALSO LOVE BIRDS. 
          SO IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK ON THIS TOPIC. 
          SO I HAVE NOT DONE THIS EFFORT ALONE. 
          WE HAVE BEEN, UM, JOINED WITH SO MANY OTHER STAFF MEMBERS IN LOTS OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, ESPECIALLY OTHER STAFF IN WATERSHED PROTECTION, UH, IN AUSTIN, ENERGY, GREEN BUILDINGS, PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUILDING SERVICES, ANIMAL SERVICES, AND OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF UH, FOLKS HAVE CONTRIBUTED NOT ONLY TO THE RESEARCH THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, BUT ALSO INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF WHAT IT MEANS TO INCORPORATE OR CONSIDER BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN REQUIREMENTS IN AUSTIN. 
          SO WE ARE RESPONDING RIGHT NOW TO A RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED LAST NOVEMBER, AS LILY MENTIONED, AND THAT RESOLUTION DIRECTED STAFF TO DO FOUR THINGS. 
          UM, BUT I DO WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, DESCRIBE THE PAST THAT KIND OF BROUGHT US HERE. 
          SO IN 2021, THE LIGHTS OUT, UH, RESOLUTION WAS PASSED THAT REQUIRE, LIKE, THAT RE DIRECTED THE BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO REQUIRE THAT CITY BUILDINGS, UH, COMPLY WITH, UH, LIGHTS OUT, DARK SKY REQUIREMENTS THAT PRETTY MUCH SHUT LIGHTS OFF DURING PEAK MIGRATION. 
          SO WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE WE'RE IN PEAK MIGRATION RIGHT NOW, UH, IN FALL MIGRATION. 
          AND THEN THIS COMMISSION, ACTUALLY, CHAIR NELSON, I THINK YOU WERE ON THAT, UH, PARTICULAR COMMISSION IN 2022, THIS COMMISSION PASSED A RESOLUTION, 
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UM, OUTLINING AN ORDINANCE TO LOOK AT REQUIRING BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN, UH, ON BUILDINGS IN AUSTIN. 
          AND THEN IN 2023, AUSTIN WAS DESIGNATED AS A BIRD CITY BECAUSE OF ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS. 
          WHILE THAT, UH, MOMENTUM HAS BROUGHT US WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          AND SO WE'RE RESPONDING TO THIS RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED IN NOVEMBER. 
          AND WHAT WE REALLY WERE FOCUSING ON IS FOUR THINGS. 
          ONE IS UPDATING, LIKE AN UPDATE TO THE LIGHTS OUT, UM, UH, ORDINANCE OR THE LIGHTS OUT RESOLUTION. 
          UM, EXPLORING THE INTEGRATION OF BIRD FRIENDLY BUILDING TECHNIQUES IN NEW LOW-RISE, MID-RISE AND HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS, CONDUCTING A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS ON THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS, WHICH WAS VERY INTERESTING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD ACTUALLY BE ROLLED OUT FROM LIKE EVEN A REVIEW PERSPECTIVE, A COST PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN ALSO SEEKING INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS. 
          SO WE'VE DONE LOTS OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THEN RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOK COMING TO THE DIFFERENT, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS TOPIC AND ARE SOLICITING YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN? UH, WHY DOES IT MATTER? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, AUSTIN AND TEXAS IS IN THE CENTRAL FLYWAY. 
          SO WE SEE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF BIRDS FLY THROUGH TEXAS EVERY YEAR. 
          LAST WEDNESDAY, 4.5 MILLION BIRDS FLEW THROUGH TRAVIS COUNTY, UM, WHICH IS AMAZING. 
          IT WAS JUST ONE NIGHT, WHICH 4.5 MILLION BIRDS. 
          UM, IN AUSTIN YOU CAN SEE OVER 400 SPECIES OF BIRDS. 
          SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DIVERSITY HERE. 
          WE'VE GOT ALL THESE AMAZING ECO TYPES, DIFFERENT TYPES OF HABITAT THAT CONVERGE IN AUSTIN. 
          AND SO THERE'S ALL SORTS OF HABITAT THAT SUPPORTS ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF BIRDS. 
          UM, AND IT'S A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR BIRD WATCHERS. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER. 
          PEOPLE HAVE THAT ON THEIR LIFE LIST. 
          THEY WANNA COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO SEE THEM. 
          BIRDING GENERATES MORE THAN TWO, $279 BILLION IN THE UNITED STATES ANNUALLY. 
          US FISH AND WILDLIFE CAME OUT WITH A GREAT ECONOMIC REPORT JUST BREAKING DOWN ALL OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT IT HAS NATIONALLY. 
          AND THAT'S MORE THAN 5 BILLION IN ANNUAL, UM, ECOTOURISM REVENUE IN TEXAS. 
          THAT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT. 
          SO WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT BIRDS? THERE'S SO MANY REASONS, BUT YOU KNOW, MONEY DOES SPEAK LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY IN TEXAS. 
          WELL, WHY IS THERE A PROBLEM? WELL, BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE PHYSIOLOGY OF BIRDS, THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY SEEING GLASS. 
          AND WHAT THEY PERCEIVE INSTEAD IS EITHER EITHER NAVIGABLE SPACE BECAUSE THE GLASS APPEARS CLEAR AND THEY CAN GO AND FLY INTO THAT AREA OR THEY SEE REFLECTED SKY HABITAT, WHATEVER. 
          AND IT ALSO APPEARS LIKE NAVIGABLE AREA, BUT IS ACTUALLY A REFLECTION OF THE BACKGROUND OF THE ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING. 
          AND THIS, UH, THIS PROBLEM WITH THE INABILITY TO PERCEIVE THE GLASS RESULTS IN COLLISIONS WITH GLASS THAT, UH, RESULT IN, YOU KNOW, DEATHS. 
          THERE'S OVER A BILLION DEATHS ESTIMATED ANNUALLY IN NORTH AMERICA DUE TO BIRD COLLISIONS. 
          UM, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT BIRD POPULATIONS. 
          UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE GLASS TWO, IT'S ALSO LIGHT POLLUTION. 
          SO THERE'S THESE TWO COMPONENTS, THE SURFACES OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT THEN ALSO LIGHT POLLUTION, WHICH HAS THE UN UNFORTUNATE IMPACT OF KIND OF, UH, MAKING THE BIRD COLLISIONS WORSE, MIGRATING BIRDS, THEY USUALLY ARE TRAVELING THROUGH THE NIGHT. 
          LIGHT POLLUTION DRAWS THEM INTO URBAN SPACES. 
          IT'S DISORIENTING AND THEY ARE BROUGHT INTO AREAS, DROP OUT FROM THE HIGH ELEVATIONS THAT THEY ARE FLYING WHILE THEY'RE MIGRATING AND COME INTO THESE SPACES AND THEN ENCOUNTER THESE AREAS THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO NAVIGATE BECAUSE IT'S GLASS AND THERE'S THESE COLLISIONS THAT CAUSE DEATH. 
          SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. 
          UM, I THINK THIS IS JUST A PDF, BUT THERE IS IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH BIRD CAST, THIS IS, UH, A GREAT APP, GREAT SOURCE OF DATA THAT USES RADAR TECHNOLOGY TO, UM, LOOK AT MIGRATION PATTERNS, MIGRATION NUMBERS, AND IT ESTIMATES MIGRATION NUMBERS. 
          THAT'S HOW I KNEW THAT LAST WEDNESDAY THERE WAS 4.5 MILLION BIRDS IN TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          'CAUSE I KIND OF LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY. 
          IT'S REALLY COOL. 
          UM, SO WHAT ARE SOME SOLUTIONS TO DEAL WITH THIS TO DETER BIRD COLLISIONS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT, UM, STRATEGY IS USING GLASS THAT'S BIRD FRIENDLY. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU DON'T HAVE GLASS, IF YOU HAVE AN OPAQUE FACADE, THE BIRDS ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THE INTERACTION WITH IT THAT, UH, THEY DO WITH GLASS THAT'S REFLECTIVE OR TRANSPARENT. 
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ALSO, THERE IS, UH, REDUCING GLASS EXPOSURE USING SOLAR SHADING OR EXTERNAL INSECT SCREENS OR OTHER KIND OF SHADING STRUCTURES IN FRONT OF GLASS. 
          AND THEN ALSO THERE'S TREATMENTS THAT CAN BE PUT ONTO GLASS, WHETHER IT'S FR THIS LIKE CERAMIC PIECE THAT CAN BE BAKED ONTO THE GLASS OR UV COATING OR ACID ETCHING THAT CAN PUT PATTERNS ON THE GLASS AS A PART OF THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR BIRDS TO PERCEIVE THE GLASS. 
          AND BECAUSE THEY CAN PERCEIVE THE GLASS, THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, CAN'T GO THERE. 
          I'M NOT GONNA HIT THE GLASS. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO ALL SORTS OF DESIGN STRATEGIES. 
          UM, THIS IS A REALLY AMAZING AVIARY IN UTAH THAT'S HAS ALL OF THESE REALLY NEAT METAL, UH, FEATURES ON THE FACADE. 
          OUR CENTRAL LIBRARY ALSO HAS A LOT OF GREAT EXAMPLES OF LIKE METAL SCREENS AND OTHER THINGS THAT KIND OF LIKE ARE IN FRONT OF THE GLASS AND WOULD PREVENT A BIRD FROM APPROACHING THE GLASS AND DETERRING THE COLLISION WITH IT. 
          THEN THE OTHER KINDS OF SOLUTIONS RELATED TO LIGHTING INCLUDE THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE INCORPORATED, INCLUDING ELIMINATING UP LIGHTING, SHIELDING FIXTURES, YOU KNOW, AVOIDING EVENT SEARCH LIGHTS, HAVING, UM, LIGHT MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS THAT AUTOMATICALLY TURN OFF LIGHTS AT NIGHT, WARMER LIGHT BULBS, UM, AND THOSE WARMER LIGHT BULBS AND THOSE DARK SKY LIGHTING. 
          IT'S BENEFICIAL NOT JUST TO BIRDS, BUT TO BATS AND TO INSECTS AND ALL SORTS OF WILDLIFE ACTUALLY ALSO TO US TOO. 
          UM, AND INTERIOR, INTERIOR LIGHTING, HAVING PROGRAMMED AUTOMATIC CONTROLS WITH TIMERS AND WINDOW TREATMENTS THAT REDUCE THE TRESPASS OF LIGHT FROM INTERIOR SPACES. 
          AND THEN SCHEDULING JANITORIAL SERVICES DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY DO AS A PART OF LIGHTS OUT, UH, THE LIGHTS OUT INITIATIVE WITH OUR BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THAT HAPPENS IN AUSTIN BUILDINGS DURING PEAK MIGRATION. 
          UM, SO THERE'S ALL OF THESE SOLUTIONS AND, AND THERE IS A GREAT HISTORY ALREADY. 
          YOU KNOW, MANY, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, A COUPLE DECADES OF CITIES ALREADY ADOPTING ORDINANCES. 
          UM, WE SPOKE TO, UH, SIX DIFFERENT CITIES. 
          WE TALKED TO THEIR PLANNING, UH, THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENTS THAT WE TALKED TO, THEIR ARCHITECTS, WE TALKED TO THEIR, LIKE ANYBODY THAT IS INVOLVED IN HOW THESE ORDINANCES HAVE PLAYED OUT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, LIKE HOW HAVE THESE THINGS ROLLED OUT WHEN THESE THINGS WERE GOING THROUGH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THROUGH YOUR CITY COUNCILS, LIKE WHAT CAME UP? HOW WERE, HOW WERE THE INSPECTIONS WORKING OUT? HOW WAS THERE ANY PUSHBACK WITH THE COST? YOU KNOW, JUST ASKING ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE COULD THINK OF RELATED TO INTRODUCING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN AUSTIN, UM, AND NEW YORK AND ARLINGTON COUNTY, THEY HAD A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING INFORMATION FOR US. 
          FIRST OF ALL, NEW YORK CITY, THEY PASSED, UM, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE ORDINANCE IN, YOU KNOW, 2021 THAT REQUIRED THAT UP TO 75 FEET, A NEW BUILDINGS FACADE HAD TO HAVE 95, 90% OF THAT FACADE WITH BIRD FRIENDLY MATERIALS. 
          UM, AND ALSO STRUCTURES HAND RAILINGS AND THINGS THAT ARE ALSO, UH, POTENTIAL HAZARDS FOR BIRD COLLISION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S ABOVE 75 FEET AND THEN ALL THOSE MATERIALS HAVE TO HAVE A THREAT FACTOR OF 25 OR LESS. 
          SO WHAT'S A THREAT FACTOR? IT IS THE INDUSTRY STANDARD USED TO DEFINE HOW, UM, A MATERIAL RELATES TO LIKE HOW LIKELY A BIRD IS TO STRIKE THAT MATERIAL RELATED TO OTHER ONES. 
          THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY RUNS TESTS IN THESE WIND TUNNELS AND THEY TEST DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND HAVE BIRDS FLY TOWARDS THEM WITH, UM, CONTROL MATERIALS ON ONE SIDE. 
          AND DEPENDING ON WHICH MATERIAL THEY FLY TOWARDS, IT CREATES THIS RATING. 
          SO EVERY PIECE OF MATERIAL THAT HAS A THREAT FACTOR ASSIGNED TO IT HAS GONE THROUGH THIS TEST. 
          UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF THREAT FACT, THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIALS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS TEST. 
          SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE JUST THE CATALOG OF FACADE MATERIALS, NOT JUST GLASS, BUT OTHER BUILDING MATERIALS HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS TEST. 
          AND YOU CAN HAVE ANY MATERIAL ALSO TESTED, UM, WHEN IF YOU WORK WITH THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY TO DO SO. 
          SO NEW YORK CITY PASSED THIS REQUIREMENT AND THEIR CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IT AND THEY, YOU KNOW, APPLIES TO ALL OF THEIR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. 
          WELL GUESS WHAT? ALL OF THEIR BUILDINGS ARE COMMERCIAL. 
          SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY BUILDING, UM, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A HUGE PROBLEM IMPLEMENTING IT OR, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS REQUIREMENT BE INTEGRATED INTO THEIR REVIEW. 
          UM, THE REVIEW OF THEIR BUILDINGS OR THEIR 
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BUILDING PERMITS. 
          ARLINGTON COUNTY VIRGINIA, ALTERNATIVELY, HAS A REALLY DIFFERENT KIND OF REQUIREMENT, WHICH INCLUDES A VOLUNTARY, UM, A VOLUNTARY DENSITY BONUS INCENTIVES. 
          SO INSTEAD OF THERE BEING REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE BUILDING THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS CAN RECEIVE DENSITY BONUS IN EXCHANGE FOR GREEN BUILDING. 
          AND IT'S A PART OF A WHOLE PROGRAM. 
          UH, IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY NEAT. 
          WE TALKED TO THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION IN THIS BECAUSE THEY GET A LOT OF DENSITY. 
          HONESTLY. 
          IT ALSO INTERACTS WITH THEIR STATE LAW, WHICH IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT IN, IN TEXAS AND WE COULDN'T NECESSARILY USE THIS EXACT STRATEGY. 
          BUT SEEING THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION IN THEIR GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM FOR DENSITY WAS VERY ENCOURAGING TO HEAR, UM, DIFFERENT THAN NEW YORK. 
          THEY LOOK AT THE FACADES OF BUILDINGS FROM EIGHT TO 36 FEET AND THEIR THREAT FACTOR THAT THEY, UH, REQUIRE THE BUILDINGS TO MEET IS 15. 
          UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF MATERIALS THAT KIND OF FALL IN THE DIFFERENT THREAT FACTORS. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A HUGE CATALOG AND IT, YOU KNOW, CHANGES THE, THE, THE AMOUNT OF MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO USE AS YOU GO DOWN IN THREAT FACTOR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT DOES BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN LOOK LIKE IN AUSTIN? WE ALREADY HAVE SOME COMPONENTS OF BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN, INCLUDING OUR AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM. 
          SIMILAR TO LEAD, THERE IS AN ABILITY TO GET RATED WITH THE AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN VOLUNTARILY COMPLY WITH CERTAIN CRITERIA RELATED TO BIRD COLLISION DETERRENTS AND DARK SKY LIGHTING THAT ALLOW YOU TO GET A RATING POINT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE GETTING YOUR GREEN BUILDING RATING, WHICH IS REQUIRED IN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS AND IN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, YOU CAN USE THAT CRITERIA TO GET TOWARDS YOUR RATING. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN USED A WHOLE LOT. 
          UM, THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE IT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED AS A PART OF THE RATING, BUT IT DOES EXIST AND IS INCREASINGLY BECOMING THINGS THAT ARE GETTING ADOPTED IN SOME OF OUR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. 
          ALSO, OUR LIGHTS OUT, UH, INITIATIVE REALLY IS, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON CITY BUILDINGS AND IS, UH, ONLY FOCUSED ON, UH, CITY BUILDINGS MANAGED BY OUR BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH ISN'T ALL THE CITY BUILDINGS THAT EXIST, BUT THE ONES MANAGED BY OUR BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          THERE ARE ALSO GLASS AND LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          SO IT'S NOT UNIQUE FOR US TO REQUIRE OR REGULATE, UH, THE FACADES OF BUILDINGS. 
          AND WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT THE COST ANALYSIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS US GETTING INTO THE FEASIBILITY COMPONENT OF THIS RESEARCH. 
          WE LOOKED AT THE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS OF THE OTHER CITY. 
          SO MADISON, WISCONSIN, THEY SAID TENTATIVELY IT WOULD ESTIMATE TWO TO 3% INCREASE IN A PROJECT'S COST IN NEW YORK. 
          THEIR FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS SAID THAT IT WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT ON REVENUES AND THAT IT WOULD NOT, UH, THERE WOULD BE, UH, NO IMPACT ON EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          I LIKE I THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL. 
          NO IMPACT AT ALL. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT I NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND WHAT WE FOUND DOES NOT NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THAT. 
          BUT BERKELEY, THEY WERE MORE KIND OF ON THE MONEY WHERE IT'S LIKE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE BECAUSE EACH DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT IS GOING TO USE A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF MATERIALS AND IS GONNA BE BUILT IN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT SPECS, DIFFERENT USES. 
          SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ACTUAL IMPACT ON EVERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUILDING WOULD BE BECAUSE EACH ONE IS GOING TO HAVE UNIQUE REQUIREMENTS THAT IT'S TRYING TO MEET. 
          BUT WE DID PUT TOGETHER SOME GENERAL COSTS. 
          SO WITH COMMERCIAL GLASS WE TALKED TO A LOT OF MANUFACTURERS AND WE TALKED TO A LOT OF ARCHITECTS BOTH IN AUSTIN AND REGIONALLY. 
          AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ADDRESS WHAT IS THE PER SQUARE FOOT COST OF THESE DIFFERENT TREATMENTS. 
          NOW THIS IS TALKING WHERE YOU GET THE GLASS MANUFACTURED AHEAD OF TIME, NOT A DIY, GOING BACK AND RETROFITTING A BUILDING. 
          IT'S NEW BUILDING. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE THIS GLASS MANUFACTURED, YOUR STANDARD CUS NON-CUSTOM GLASS IS 12 TO $15 GLASS THAT IS TREATED WITH THE CERAMIC FRITZ, UM, IS 15 TO $25 A SQUARE FOOT. 
          IF IT'S ETCHED, IT GOES UP TO 35 AND ULTRAVIOLET, UH, UV COATING GOES UP TO 45. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THESE TREATMENTS ALSO AREN'T 
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ON EVERY SURFACE OF THE GLASS. 
          SO A LOT OF THE GLASS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WINDOWS ARE MAYBE DOUBLE PANED, POSSIBLY TRIPLE PANED AND ONLY ONE SURFACE WOULD NEED TO BE TREATED. 
          SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE COST WOULD BE, UH, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NEED TRIPLE PANED GLASS AND YOU WOULD ONLY NEED TO TREAT ONE OF THOSE PANES. 
          UH, ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, GLASS IS SOLD IN BULK, SO YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE, UM, THAT MIGHT FACTOR INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE ORDER THAT YOU MAKE. 
          MAYBE THE GLASS THAT YOU'RE ORDERING IS MANUFACTURED AND YOU HAVE TO GET MORE THAT'S TREATED OR LESS. 
          IT JUST, IT DEPENDS FOR EVERY SINGLE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND RELATED TO RETROFIT OPTIONS, THERE IS WHAT WE FOUND A RANGE FROM 12 TO $14 A SQUARE FOOT. 
          AND THAT'S FOR BOTH THE PRODUCT AND INSTALLATION. 
          AND THAT'S LIKE AFTER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE WE TREAT CITY HALL RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD COST ABOUT THAT MUCH AND THAT WARRANTY ENDS UP BEING UP TO 15 YEARS. 
          SO THE MANUFACTURED GLASS DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF WARRANTY. 
          IT'S BAKED INTO THE ACTUAL WINDOW ITSELF, RESIDENTIAL GLASS. 
          SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT RE THERE'S JUST NOT ANY RESIDENTIAL GLASS, UM, PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE UNLIKE NEW YORK, WE ARE REALLY A CITY OF RESIDENTIAL LOW RISE BUILDINGS. 
          WE'RE NOT ALL RESIDE, LIKE, NOT EVERY LOW-RISE BUILDING IS RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY A, A CITY OF LOW RISE BUILDINGS. 
          WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BUILDING DATA, THERE'S ABOUT 800,000 LOW-RISE BUILDINGS AND THEN LIKE 18,000 MID-RISE BUILDINGS AND THEN A COUPLE HUNDRED HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS. 
          WE THINK OF THE HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS AS BEING LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST, MOST IMPORTANT ONE TO TARGET, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE LOW-RISE BUILDINGS. 
          THAT'S WHAT IS PREDOMINANTLY, UH, IN THE AUSTIN LANDSCAPE. 
          SO SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER, THERE ISN'T ANY RESIDENTIAL GLASS OPTIONS RIGHT NOW IN THE MARKET. 
          THERE IS, HOWEVER, A LOT OF COST NEUTRAL STRATEGIES THAT JUST ALREADY EXIST THAT AREN'T FOR BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN, LIKE BUG SCREENS. 
          EXTERIOR BUG SCREENS ARE A GREAT WAY TO DETER BIRD COLLISION. 
          EXTERIOR WINDOW SHADES, HURRICANE SHUTTER SOLAR SCREENS AND SOLAR SCREENS ARE ACTUALLY OFFERED AS AN, UH, THERE'S AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT AUSTIN ENERGY OFFERS FOR SOLAR SHADES FOR THE PURPOSE OF ENERGY SAVINGS. 
          A LOT OF THESE, UH, SOLUTIONS DO PROVIDE ENERGY SAVINGS, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          UH, A GREAT CO-BENEFIT. 
          AND THEN THERE'S SO MANY DIY SOLUTIONS, UM, THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENCES LIGHTING. 
          WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE LIGHTING, IT'S JUST ACTUALLY A INFORMED DECISION. 
          SO MANY LIGHTING FIXTURES CAN BE MADE WITH, YOU KNOW, AUTOMATIC CONTROLS. 
          THEY'RE SHIELDED IF YOU HAVE THE CORRECT BULB TEMPERATURE. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF INFORMED DECISION MAKING AND HAVING EXTERIOR LIGHTING COMPLY WITH DARK SKY STANDARDS. 
          SO WE NOT ONLY LOOKED AT THESE, UH, MATERIALS AND THESE SOLUTIONS, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOK LIKE HOW DOES IT HAPPEN IF YOU PUT A REQUIREMENT IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHO'S GONNA REVIEW IT AND HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK AT ALL? SO WE WORKED WITH DSD BUILDING PLANS EXAMINERS TO SEE AT WHAT POINT DO THEY REVIEW THE FACADE, LIKE GLAZING ON A, ON A BUILDING. 
          AND THEIR COMMERCIAL PLAN REVIEWER SAID THAT AT 10,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THEIR REVIEWERS ALREADY ARE LOOKING AT THE GLASS FACADE. 
          UM, SO WE TALKED TO THEM, WE WALKED THROUGH A COUPLE OF EXERCISES OF HOW YOU WOULD ROLL THIS OUT IF YOU WERE REALLY GONNA REVIEW IT. 
          UM, IF YOU WERE GONNA LOOK AT A PLAN AND SAY WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GLASS TO SEE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THESE REQUIREMENTS AND IT SEEMED, YOU KNOW, COMPLIMENTARY TO WORK THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING. 
          INTERESTINGLY, MADISON, WISCONSIN AND A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ALSO HAVE THIS 10,000 SQUARE FOOT CUTOFF. 
          NOT SURE, THEY DID NOT SAY IT'S FOR THE SAME REASON THAT WE HAVE, BUT THAT'S WHY. 
          BUT THIS IS A PART OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS REQUIREMENTS STARTING AT 10,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          ADDITIONALLY RELATED TO FEASIBILITY, OUR AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING STAFF ALREADY HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH, UM, BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN CRITERIA AND CAN DO SOME REVIEW TRAINING FOR STAFF THAT COULD COME ON, UH, YOU KNOW, ONLINE AT DAY ONE IF THERE WERE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE PASSED, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW. 
          AND AS IT RELATES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS OR YOU KNOW, INSPECTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER CITIES WERE LIKE, ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS ARE COMPLAINT BASED. 
          IF A CITY DECIDES TO REPLACE ITS WINDOWS, THEY RE THEY REQUIRE THAT THE NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THEY ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE CITY WE TALKED TO SAID THAT'S HOW THEY DEALT WITH IT. 
          ONE MADISON, WISCONSIN ACTUALLY DID HAVE SOME, UM, 
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INSPECTION STAFF THAT WENT OUT AT NIGHT ONCE A MONTH TO LOOK FOR DARK SKY LIGHTING, BUT NONE OF THE OTHER CITIES REALLY DID, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST A PART OF THE TRUTH OF THE FEASIBILITY OF REQUIRING CERTAIN THINGS. 
          WE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS WE'RE LIKE, HOW ARE YOU INSPECTING IT? UM, SO SOME CO-BENEFITS, AND I THINK THESE PARTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. 
          ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CO-BENEFITS IS IF IT'S GONNA COST MORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA SAVE MORE. 
          AND THERE WAS A STUDY, A BOX STUDY DONE BY A FIRM IN NEW YORK THAT LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FACADES AND HOW IT AFFECTED ENERGY USAGE. 
          SO YOU ON THE LEFT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR CLEAR GLASS AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR FRITTED GLASS, YOUR UV COATED GLASS, GLASS THAT IS PROTECTED BY THESE KIND OF SOLAR SHADES. 
          AND THEN A BOX THAT HAS SOME OPAQUE MATERIAL. 
          IT'S NOT COMPLETELY OPAQUE, BUT SOME OPAQUE MATERIAL. 
          UH, AND YOU SEE JUST A DECREASE IN THE COST OF ENERGY USE FOR EVERY SINGLE TYPE OF TREATMENT. 
          SO THAT'S, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT THESE MANUFACTURED PROJECTS ARE ALSO HAVING ENERGY SAVINGS. 
          AND, UH, LEAD HAS A GREAT ARTICLE THAT'S LINKED IN THE PRESENTATION ON PROJECTS THAT ARE SAVING ENERGY THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND THEY HAVE DOCUMENTED THE COST SAVINGS ON PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE BUILT WITH BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN, UH, AND BIRD SAFE MATERIALS. 
          SOME OTHER CO-BENEFITS IS BOTH, UH, WILDFIRE PREVENTION AND LIGHTING. 
          SO WILDFIRE PREVENTION AND WHY THAT WORKS IS OUR WWE CODE, OUR WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE CODE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR STRUCTURES THAT ARE IN OUR WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE. 
          AND WHAT IS REQUIRED THERE IS A DEFENSIBLE SPACE. 
          SO YOU CAN'T HAVE VEGETATION RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR STRUCTURE TO PREVENT THE TRANSFER OF WILDFIRE TO THE STRUCTURE. 
          WELL, IF YOU'RE MOVING THAT VEGETATION AWAY FROM THE WINDOWS, THEN YOU'RE ALSO NOT HAVING THE REFLECTION OF THE VEGETATION IN THE WINDOWS. 
          NOW THERE'S A LOT OF CAVEATS AND IT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP REGULATIONS THAT SAY, OH, IT, IT IS ONLY FIVE FEET AWAY AND THEN IT'S PERFECT OR IT'S 10 FEET AWAY. 
          BUT IF YOUR GLASS IS TREATED, IT CAN HELP TO HAVE THE VEGETATION AWAY AND TO FURTHER DETER BIRD COLLISION BEYOND WHAT IS ALREADY ALLOW, LIKE CREATED BY USING THIS BIRD FRIENDLY GLASS. 
          ALSO THERE IS LIGHTING BENEFITS. 
          SO THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS PICTURE IS PRETTY FAMOUS FOR SHOWING THE IMPACT OF, UH, BLINDING FROM UNSHIELDED LIGHT. 
          SO IN THE TOP PICTURE, WHAT YOU SEE IS A, LIKE A BLINDING EXTERIOR LIGHT AND A DARK BACKGROUND AND AN OPEN GATE. 
          AND WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR HAND AND YOU SHIELD THE LIGHT, YOU CAN THEN SEE THE FIGURE IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF HOW SHIELDING LIGHT ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTES TO SAFE OUTDOOR PUBLIC LIGHTING. 
          AND THAT IT'S NOT BRI BRIGHTER DOESN'T MEAN SAFER. 
          UM, THE DELL CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL HAS A DARK SKY CAMPUS AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, LIKE, YOU WANT THAT TO BE THE SAFEST PLACE EVER. 
          AND THAT CAMPUS IS VERY SAFE AND IT'S A DARK SKY AND IT'S, YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE PARKING LOT, UM, OTHER CO-BENEFITS AND THESE ARE ALL REALLY IMPORTANT AND BIG TOPICS, BUT WE KIND OF BUNCH THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS PRESENTATION IS ALREADY FULL OF SO MUCH INFORMATION. 
          BUT THE IMPACT ON CONSERVATION, ON BIODIVERSITY, I MEAN ALL OF THE ECO ECOLOGICAL SERVICES THAT BIRDS PROVIDE, REDUCING AGRICULTURAL PESTS, BEING SERVING AS POLLINATORS. 
          I MEAN HUMMINGBIRDS ARE A GREAT POLLINATOR SOURCE. 
          UM, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT FOLLOWS BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN. 
          YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY SEES DOTS ON A BUILDING, THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT IS THAT FOR? AND THEN A WHOLE CONVERSATION ENSUES ABOUT WHY IT'S NEEDED. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED AT THE TOP OF THE PRESENTATION, ECOTOURISM GENERATES A LOT OF REVENUE IN TEXAS AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 
          SO BEST PRACTICES AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD TO COUNCIL THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON. 
          UM, SO I PUT TOGETHER, UH, GENERAL BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AS REQUESTED IN THIS RESOLUTION. 
          LOOKING AT LOW, MID, AND HIGH RISE BUILDINGS, MOSTLY ADDRESSING THE GLASS TREATMENTS, THE LIGHTING SOLUTIONS AND BEHAVIORAL PRACTICES. 
          THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST DIFFERENT INFORMATION IS REALLY THE LOW RISE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL LOW RISE AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL LOW RISE AND YOU CAN BUILD COMMERCIAL LOW-RISE BUILDINGS 'CAUSE THERE'S COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS, RESIDENTIAL LOW RISE BUILDINGS, UH, WE'RE SUGGESTING A DIFFERENT APPROACH. 
          UM, AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, 
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THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE HUNDRED HUNDRED HUNDRED RULE, WHICH SAYS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE REGULATED HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR FACADE UP TO A HUNDRED FEET BIRD SAFE. 
          SO THAT'S THE HUNDRED HUNDRED HUNDRED RULE. 
          AND ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY KIND OF START AT THAT RULE. 
          AND THEN ALSO, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY SUGGESTS IS USING A THREAT FACTOR OF 30, HOWEVER, NEW YORK WENT WITH A THREAT FACTOR OF 25 AND LEAD. 
          AND OUR AUSTIN, UH, GREEN BUILDING, UH, BIRD COLLISION DETERRENCE CRITERIA GO WITH 15. 
          SO WHAT ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS? THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING AND BRINGING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL AND THIS, SO THIS IS A DRAFT. 
          THIS, THESE ARE OUR DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'RE STILL GETTING FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY FROM YOU GUYS TODAY. 
          AND ONE IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT. 
          UM, AND THAT CODE AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE THAT COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS EXCEEDING 10,000 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET BIRD SAFE DESIGN PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH A THREAT FACTOR OF 20 OR LESS FOR ALL BUILDING SURFACES UP TO A HUNDRED FEET. 
          AND THAT WE IMPLEMENT DARK SKY LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS. 
          AND THAT BECAUSE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANT NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAIVER OPTION FOR DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT AUSTIN IS A PART OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM, THAT WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM STAFF THAT HAVE A PLANNED FULL UPDATE IN 2030 TO PROPOSE BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN AS A CORE MEASURE, WHICH KIND OF ELEVATES THE BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN CRITERIA FROM WHAT IT IS NOW AS AN ELECTIVE MEASURE. 
          AND THAT ALSO WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE, UM, AUSTIN ENERGY ON THE UPDATE OF THEIR GREEN BUILDING POLICY WITH WHICH REGULATES HOW AUSTIN CITY BUILDINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, AND I THINK THIS ONE IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING A PRETTY BIG RESIDENTIAL, UH, EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. 
          SO IN THE REPORT THAT WE DEVELOPED, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF HANDOUTS THAT WE ALREADY CREATED THAT KIND OF SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, DO YOU OWN A HOUSE? DO YOU LIVE IN A HOUSE? DO YOU CARE ABOUT BIRDS? HOPEFULLY YOU DO. 
          AND IF YOU DON'T, YOUR WINDOWS CAN LOOK COOL IF YOU MAKE A BIRD SAFE. 
          UM, AND IT GIVES SOME INFORMATION ON HOW TO RETROFIT YOUR HOUSE, HOW TO IMPLEMENT THESE, UH, THESE STRATEGIES INTO YOUR HOME. 
          SO WHERE ARE WE AT IN OUR PROCESS RIGHT NOW? UM, WE HAVE GONE TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND WE ARE NOW COMING BEFORE YOU TO RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU. 
          WE WILL GO TO DOWNTOWN COMMISSION THIS WEEK, ALSO THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE DESIGN COMMISSION PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          AND THEN WE WILL GO TOWARDS COUNCIL, UM, EARLY 2026. 
          AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 
          YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? TURNING OFF, UM, COMMISSIONER HOLT? UH, FIRST I JUST WANNA SAY THIS WAS AMAZING AND I'M SO INCREDIBLY APPRECIATIVE FOR THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE PUT IN ON THIS. 
          IT'S, I I'M SPEECHLESS, LIKE HOW INCREDIBLY EDUCATED I FEEL AFTER THAT PRESENTATION. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, TO CLARIFY, 'CAUSE I'M NOTICING THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE PRESENTATION, IS THE, THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING A FOCUS ONLY ON CITY OWNED BUILDINGS? OR IS THIS, I I NOTICED YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE CODE, SO YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO ALSO ENCOURAGE NON-CITY OWNED BUILDINGS TO FOLLOW. 
          CAN YOU SPEAK TO JUST LIKE, KIND OF WHERE THE, THE LINE IS ON THAT? SURE. 
          SO WE'VE GOT KIND OF THREE ELEMENTS TO OUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          THE FIRST KIND OF BIG ONE IS THAT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD HAVE A REQUIREMENT AND THAT WOULD AFFECT EVERY COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY NEW CONSTRUCTION OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET, CITY OR PRIVATE. 
          SO THAT IS THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF MORE BROAD IN ITS APPLICABILITY. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION RELATES TO THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM. 
          THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT APPLIES TO CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE GREEN BUILDING POLICY IS A POLICY THAT REQUIRES THAT CITY BUILDINGS HAVE GREEN BUILDING RATING. 
          SO THEY HAVE TO, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM AND THAT POLICY WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WE WORK WITH AUSTIN ENERGY ON THE UPDATE TO THAT. 
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NOW THERE'S SOME FEASIBILITY AND MORE DEEP RESEARCH INTO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WHICH WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND WE WRITE IN OUR BIGGER STAFF REPORT. 
          AND AUSTIN ENERGY IS LIKE, WE, WE DO WANNA WORK WITH THIS. 
          WE JUST WANNA DIG INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF CHANGING THE GREEN BUILDING POLICY TO REQUIRE THAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD BE MUCH MORE WIDE SWEEPING AND WOULD COVER ALL OF THE CITY BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, AWESOME. 
          THE, UH, THE, THE LAST RECOMMENDATION IS JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL, YOU KNOW, BIG EDUCATIONAL PUSH FOR RESIDENTS IS BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. 
          YOU KNOW, THE MORE, THE MORE INTEREST, THE MORE DEMAND, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY START SEEING THOSE COME ON THE MARKET. 
          A LOT OF CITIES ARE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING ADOPTING RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS AND THERE ARE THREE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE ADOPTED RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS AS OF TODAY, AND THAT'S HAPPENED I THINK IN THE LAST YEAR. 
          SO THERE WILL BE DEMAND. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          QUICK PLUG TO ALSO, UM, SPEAK TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER, UM, RECEPTIVE AUDIENCE TO THE POINTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE, UH, JUST PERIOD. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION, COMMISSIONER LINDER. 
          UM, THANKS SO MUCH. 
          I WANNA ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER HOLT SAID. 
          UM, JUST THIS WAS AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF WORK AND, AND THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS. 
          UM, LIKE LILY, I ALSO LOVE BIRDS AND IT'S DARK, BUT IF YOU LOOK BEHIND ME, UH, I HAVE LINES ON MY WINDOWS HERE, UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE RETROFITTING THEM NOW, BUT, UM, JUST A FEW THINGS THAT, UM, THAT I THOUGHT MAY BE WORTH MENTIONING. 
          UM, ONE, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY THE FOCUS OF THIS IS, UH, ON SORT OF BIRD SAFE AUSTIN, UM, BUT I KNOW THAT LIGHT POLLUTION ALSO HAS HARMFUL EFFECTS ON BATS. 
          UH, AND WE HAVE THE LARGEST URBAN BAT COLONY IN THE WORLD HERE IN AUSTIN, WHICH ALSO GENERATES A WHOLE LOT OF TOURISM REVENUE. 
          SO DOWN THE ROAD THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES THERE, UM, TO COLLABORATE AS YOU'RE WORKING ON GETTING THIS THROUGH, THROUGH COUNCIL OR WHATEVER. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, TO, TO PUT A PLUG IN THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EXPERTS IN TOWN, WE'VE GOT MARLON TUTTLE, WE'VE GOT BAP CONSERVATION INTERNATIONAL, UH, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF FOLKS THAT I'M SURE WOULD BE SUPER SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, UM, AND, UH, AND MAYBE HELP YOU TAP INTO TO THEIR NETWORKS AS WELL. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          I NOTICED IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS YOU TALK ABOUT WORK THAT WAS DONE AT YALE UNIVERSITY, UH, AND THAT WAS DONE BY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES. 
          SO IF SHE CAN BE HELPFUL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO PUT YOU ALL IN TOUCH THERE. 
          UH, AND THEN THE LAST THING, WHICH IS JUST A CURIOSITY QUESTION, BUT, UM, EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE WHEN I'M DRIVING DOWN I 35, I SEE THE GIANT LIGHTS OF THE UT TEXAS, UM, FOOTBALL STADIUM THERE. 
          AND I GUESS I'M WONDERING, UM, WHETHER IN YOUR RESEARCH AT ALL, IF YOU CAME ACROSS SORT OF ANY DIFFERENCE IN IMPACT BETWEEN SORT OF LARGE SCALE LIGHTS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE SORT OF ANGLED UPWARDS VERSUS SORT OF, UM, RESIDENTIAL LIGHTS. 
          UM, IS IT SORT OF THE SAME THING THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT OF KIND OF DOWN LIGHTING VERSUS UPLIGHTING? I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE MORE HARMFUL, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN. 
          SO JUST A PLUG TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE COMMISSION IF YOU EVER WANNA TALK TO UT ABOUT THEIR FOOTBALL WHITES. 
          UM, UH, YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M HERE FOR IT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS I GUESS IF, UH, IF THAT CAME UP IN YOUR RESEARCH AT ALL. 
          UH, THAT, THAT DEFINITELY DID. 
          AND I THINK ABOUT IT EVERY TIME I SEE ANY KIND OF RECREATIONAL LIGHTING, EVEN AT LIKE THE LOCAL TENNIS COURT PICKLEBALL QUARTER, YOU KNOW, THAT RECREATIONAL LIGHTING IS DEFINITELY THE KIND OF LIGHTING THAT IS HAVING A BIG, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTION TO LIGHT POLLUTION. 
          UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY DOING A LIGHTING STUDY TO LOOK AT LIGHTING, PUBLIC LIGHTING, SO LIKE STREETS AND PARKS AND RECREATIONAL AMENITIES. 
          UM, SO I KNOW THAT WE, WE'VE TALKED TO THEM A LITTLE BIT, UM, ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, SOME A LITTLE BIT MORE FRIENDLY AND THERE ARE SOME, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT RECREATIONAL LIGHTING THAT'S AT LEAST ON TIMERS. 
          UM, SO WHEN YOU PLAY, YOU KNOW, YOU GO PLAY AT NIGHT AND THEN THE LIGHTS WILL TURN OFF, UM, SOMETIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR GAME AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, WELL THAT'S GOOD FOR THE BIRDS . 
          UH, SO THAT, I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, ON TIMERS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST STRATEGIES THAT I'VE SEEN RELATED TO THAT KIND OF BIG BRIGHT RECREATIONAL LIGHTING. 
          BUT IT'S DEFINITELY THE EVENT SEARCH LIGHTS THAT ARE BRINGING IN A LOT OF BIRDS. 
          WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT WE'RE GONNA DISTRIBUTE TO YOU GUYS THAT OUR INTERNS, INCLUDING LILY WORKED ON, WHICH HAS LIKE A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION, A LOT MORE THAN I SPOKE ABOUT. 
          AND, UH, WE TALKED TO, UM, A PHOTOGRAPHER THAT CAUGHT, UH, THIS 
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FILM OF LIKE HUNDREDS OF BIRDS SWARMING IN A, A SEARCH LIGHT AND IT'S JUST LIKE, OH MAN. 
          YEAH, THOSE BIRDS ARE TRYING, JUST TRYING TO MIGRATE OR YEAH, HAVING A PARTY THAT SEARCH LIGHT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO. 
          IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          COMMISSIONER AHMED. 
          HI, UH, LESLIE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND I SHOULD JUST LIKE LET THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG. 
          LIKE I, I'M OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH AUDUBON AND FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, IN DISCUSSION WITH LIKE THE TEAM WHEN I SAW SOME OF THIS STUFF COME UP ON THE, UH, AGENDA, UH, THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CHLOE, LIKE OUR ENGAGEMENT MANAGER FOR AUDUBON. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SHE HAS ACCESS TO THIS DOCUMENTARY THAT CORNELL PUT TOGETHER, UH, ON LIGHTS OUT THE PROGRAM. 
          WE DID TWO EVENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          ONE, UH, IN DALLAS AT THE PERRO MUSEUM AND ONE IN HOUSTON AT THE ZOO. 
          AND WORKING WITH LIKE LOCAL DELIVERY PARTNERS LIKE PEROT, TEXAS CONSERVATION ALLIANCE, ET CETERA. 
          UM, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRETTY USEFUL WAY TO LIKE, EDUCATE AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND HAD A TON OF RECEPTION. 
          AND IN FACT, WE, THERE WAS A LOVELY WOMAN WHO ASKED A VERY INFORMED QUESTION, UH, THAT WAS MONITORING BIRD CAST EVERY NIGHT. 
          SO , MAYBE EVEN SOME FRIENDS IN THE FLOCK . 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          I DID HEAR ABOUT THE PEROT, UH, EVENT. 
          THAT SOUND SOUNDED LIKE REALLY A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          WE DO WANNA GET THE WORD OUT IN, IN ANY KIND OF EDUCATIONAL WAY, AND WE'VE DONE LIKE SMALL TABLING EVENTS, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO, TO TALKING MORE ABOUT THIS AS, AS I'M SURE YOU ARE VERY ENGAGED WITH DOING THAT TOO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYONE ELSE? SO, YEAH, JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK. 
          SO EXCITED TO SEE ALL THIS. 
          I KIND OF, I FELT LIKE I WAS SCREAMING OUT INTO THE VOID WHEN I BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMISSION IN 2022, BUT I, UM, I'M NOT ABLE TO REMEMBER HER NAME NOW, BUT THE, THE DOCTOR WHO WROTE MOST OF THE SAMPLE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UM, AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY, SPOKE TO US REMOTELY AND DID A LOT OF EDUCATION. 
          AND I'M JUST SO THANKFUL YOU'VE DONE ALL THIS RESEARCH TO MAKING, UH, SOMETHING REAL HAPPEN IN AUSTIN. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PLACE FOR BIRDS AND BATS. 
          I MEAN, EVERYWHERE IS, BUT ALSO RIGHT HERE. 
          SO JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ARE WE GONNA DO THE RECORD? YES. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE ON, 
          [8. Approve a Recommendation to Council related to Bird-Friendly design. ]
UM, TO THE RELATED, UH, DISCUSSION AND ACTION. 
          ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNT TO CITY COUNCIL RELATED TO BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN. 
          UM, THIS WAS POSTED TO BACKUP ON FRIDAY, SO WE SHOULDN'T NEED TO READ IT, UM, INTO THE, INTO THE RECORD. 
          UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO, UH, PASS THIS RECOMMENDATION? UM, UH, LOTS OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL,  COMMISSIONER TY. 
          UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND? YEAH, ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONER HUDDLESTON SECOND. 
           SECOND SIT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, I HAVE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THIS. 
          UM, I JU UM, FOLLOWING THE FOURTH, WHEREAS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL, WHEREAS THAT SAYS, WHEREAS THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT BIODIVERSITY HAS BENEFITS TO OUR COMMUNITY IN ITS OWN RIGHT BEYOND ECONOMIC BENEFIT, I JUST WANT TO, UM, REINFORCE THAT. 
          SO IF THE, UM, MOVEMENT, UH, COMMISSIONER TIES WOULD ACCEPT MY AMENDMENT, OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER, UH, YES, I DO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER NORTON? UH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I, UH, DRAFTED THE RECOMMENDATION AND I HOPE YOU ALL SUPPORT IT. 
          UM, THE MAIN, THE CHANGE I MADE WAS REALLY THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, UM, REFERENCING ALL THE GOOD WORK WE DID, UM, IN 2022. 
          UM, THE REST OF IT ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, AND I THINK THEY DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THIS. 
          SO WE'RE FOLLOWING WITH THAT OTHER DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED PLUS, UM, DR. 
          NELSON'S, UM, AMENDMENT. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK. 
          I'M EXCITED TO PUT THIS FORTH AND, UH, SUPPORT YOUR, UH, UH, INITIATIVE AND TO SEE THAT WHAT WE STARTED IS NOW ACTUALLY, HOPEFULLY 
          [03:00:01]
GONNA BECOME SOMETHING. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WRITING THIS UP AND POSTING IT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I, EVERY TIME, SORRY. 
          UM, EVERY TIME WE PASS A RESOLUTION, I LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT LIVES IN A BUBBLE ONLY OF US, UNLESS WE FOLLOW UP WITH OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT MATTERS TO US. 
          SO JUST A PLUG TO EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL PERSON SO THAT THIS ACTUALLY HAS LEGS. 
          SO . 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN, IN SUPPORT. 
          AS AMENDED. 
          AS AMENDED. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER AHMAD, I CAN'T SEE YOUR HAND. 
          IF YOU HAVE AN OBJECT, WOULD YOU? I FILLED OUT A RECUSAL, I'M SORRY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO, SORRY. 
          UM, OTHER THAN, UH, COMMISSIONER AHAD, WHO'S RECUSING, IT LOOKS TO BE UNANIMOUS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL GO 
          [6. Update on Bond Election Process to improve shelter operations. ]
BACK TO DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER SIX. 
          IS THIS CORRECT? YES. 
          UH, UPDATE ON BOND ELECTION PROCESS TO IMPROVE SHELTER OPERATIONS. 
          WE'LL, WE WILL GET THROUGH IT PRETTY FAST. 
          THIS IS ABOUT 45 SLIDES. 
          , I'M, I'M JOKING. 
          Y'ALL KIDDING? ALRIGHT. 
          YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT THE HECK? , SORRY. 
          GLAD I BROUGHT MY PILLOW. 
          I WANNA SEE IF YOU WERE ALL WHITE. 
          RIGHT? YOU GONNA PUT IT BACK UP THERE? OH, WHICH ONE? IT'S ON THE SAME PLATFORM THAT WE HAD EARLIER TODAY, AND IT'S, UH, SLIDE, UH, 21. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          ROLANDA FERNANDEZ, INTERIM ANIMAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. 
          THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE OUR, UH, BOND PROPOSAL SUBMITTAL FOR THE 2026, UH, BOND PROCESS THAT THE CITY'S GOING THROUGH. 
          UH, AT THIS TIME, UM, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, AND EVEN BEFORE THEN, THERE WAS SOME STAFF WORK ON THIS EFFORT TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE NEEDS THROUGHOUT, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, IN TERMS OF HOW TO BETTER PROVIDE CARE AND SERVICES, UM, TO, UM, THE WORK THAT WE DO. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO THIS IS, I, I CAME IN HERE ALMOST SIX MONTHS AGO, UH, WAS INFORMED BY THE, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN THAT COUNCIL HAD APPROVED, UH, IN THAT PLAN, UH, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SIX FOCUS AREAS, 17 GOALS, AND 67 STRATEGIES, AND SEVERAL OF THOSE FOCUS ON PROVIDING, UM, YOU KNOW, BETTER FACILITIES FOR OUR STAFF AND ALSO FOR OUR ANIMALS. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL TODAY IS TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH, UM, WHAT THAT, UH, SUBMITTAL LOOKS LIKE FOR US. 
          UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A COMPETITIVE PROCESS THAT THE CITY WILL, WILL LEAD FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS ACROSS THE, UH, THE ORGANIZATION. 
          UH, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S ALSO A THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE DEBT CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO BORROW, UH, TO FUND THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, SECOND OF ALL IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE JUST NOT, UH, SHARING WITH YOU, WITH YOU A, UM, BOND PROJECT. 
          WE'RE ALSO SHARING WITH YOU, UH, A VISION FOR THIS BETTER DUNCAN LEAGUE CAMPUS. 
          UH, THIS, THIS CAMPUS RIGHT NOW IS OCCUPIED BOTH BY, UH, AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES AND, UH, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          AND AS WE LOOK AT, UM, HAVING THIS CAMPUS BE, UH, THE, THE CENTER FOCUS OF ANIMAL CARE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE CITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WHAT, UM, EFFORTS DO WE NEED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN MEET OUR NEEDS HERE AS WE ALSO LOOK AT OTHER MODELS, UH, IN TERMS OF PROVIDING CAPACITY FOR OUR, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          UH, EARLIER THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION REGARDING, UH, THE BOND, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE, UM, UM, THE, THE PROCESS THAT THE CITY'S GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW FOR THE TRE TAX ELECTION RATE. 
          THAT'S INFORMING, UH, THE ABILITY TO COVER ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING IN THAT, UH, THERE IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SET ASIDE FOR, UH, A NORTHWEST REGION BASED ADOPTION CENTER. 
          I THINK THAT MODEL REALLY, UM, ALLOWS US TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA BUILD OUT THIS, THIS SHELTER, UH, IN OUR CAMPUS IN A CERTAIN WAY TO MEET OUR PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS, AND THEN START, UH, EXTEND OURSELVES ACROSS THE, UH, THE GREATER AUSTIN AREA, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND JUST BE MORE, UM, APPROACHABLE, UH, RESPONSIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY, UH, TRAVIS 
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COUNTY PROPER, INCLUDING THE INCORPORATED AREA OF TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          SO THAT'S THE GOAL HERE. 
          THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE CAPTURE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA BUILD IN THIS, UH, MASTER PLAN FOR OUR CAMPUS. 
          THIS NEXT SLIDE REALLY LOOKS AT THE, YOU KNOW, OUR ABILITY TO SAY, UH, ARE WE READY TO GO? RIGHT? UH, WHEN, WHEN I SAY, ARE WE READY TO GO IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT SAYS, EH, WE GET SUPPORT FOR THE FUNDING OF THIS BOND PROGRAM, THAT THE PROJECTS ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AND BUILT WITHIN A CERTAIN MILESTONE. 
          UH, IDEALLY WHEN YOU DO A BOND PROGRAM, AND, AND THIS HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY FOR, UH, FOR QUITE SOME TIME BEFORE I CAN MOVE TO THE, UM, ANIMAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT, I WAS AN EXECUTIVE IN THE, UH, AND THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER WORKING ON THE, UM, NEW CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT. 
          AND BEFORE THAT, I OVERSAW ALL THE CONTRACTING PROCUREMENT FOR THE CITY'S CAPITAL PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, COVERING AUSTIN WATER AVIATION, AUSTIN ENERGY, AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. 
          AND SO WHEN WE SAY SHOVEL READY, UH, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE READY TO GO INTO DESIGN, UH, WITH AN ARCHITECT, UM, GET THAT DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, COMPLETED, UH, AND EVEN EARLIER THAT IF POSSIBLE, DEPENDING ON DELIVERY METHOD, START CONSTRUCTION, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO FI START AND FINISH THESE PROJECTS WITHIN THIS TIMEFRAME OF ONE BOND PROGRAM AND THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND, AND THAT'S A STRONG CRITERIA THAT THE CITY LOOKS AT IN TERMS OF SELECTING WHAT PROJECTS TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AT THE HIGH LEVEL, THIS IS SHOWING YOU, UH, WHERE OUR FOCUS AREA IS FOR THIS, UH, 2026 BOND PROGRAM. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT NUMBERS IN HERE. 
          UH, THE NUMBER ONE IS, UH, VETERINARY CLINIC, AND YOU HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHERE THAT'S AT. 
          AND THAT'S IN THE CENTER BOTTOM OF OUR EXISTING FACILITY. 
          SO THIS BOND PROGRAM FOR THE MAJORITY FOCUSES ON CREATING, UM, REVAMP SPACES WITHIN OUR EXISTING SHELTER. 
          UH, THE NUMBER TWO IS A CAT WARD ON THE, UM, TO MY LEFT AND TO, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE SITTING AT, EITHER YOUR RIGHT OR LEFT. 
          UM, SO, AND THEN NUMBER THREE, AND I'LL GO BACK INTO MORE DETAIL ON THIS ONE. 
          IT'S IN THE NORTH PART OF THE CAMPUS THAT'S CREATING A DOG BEHAVIOR KENNEL, UM, UP BY THE H BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          SO AS PUBLIC HEALTH IS LOOKING AT THEIR, UH, THEIR MASTER PLAN FOR HOW THEY'RE GONNA OFFICE, UH, AND STAFF THEIR PEOPLE, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT MOVING THOSE FOLKS TO OTHER PLACES. 
          AND SO WE HAVE PUT OUR NAME ON THE LIST OF OCCUPYING THAT SPACE WHEN THEY VACATE THAT SPACE. 
          AND THAT'S JUST A, A PROCESS THAT'S, UH, A SEPARATE INITIATIVE WHERE, UH, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH IS WORKING WITH BUILDING SERVICES IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          AND THEN NUMBER FOUR IS, UH, SOME BACK OF HOUSE UPGRADES. 
          SO LET ME GO INTO DETAIL ON, ON THESE SPECIFIC ONES. 
          UM, THIS IS, AGAIN, FOR THE MOST PART, THREE OUT OF THE FOUR ARE USING EXISTING SPACE, REVAMPING EXISTING SPACE. 
          AND IT ALL WORKS LIKE THIS. 
          THAT NUMBER TWO, UH, NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST. 
          SO NUMBER TWO IS THAT CATEGORY, THAT'S 6,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF OUR STAFF, UH, CURRENTLY OFFICE AT, INCLUDING, UH, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, UH, SUPPORT TEAM AUSTIN, UH, OUR, OUR, UH, ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS. 
          UH, OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE STAFF FROM THERE, UH, OVER TO THAT FIRST BUILDING TO THE, UH, LEFT ON, ON, ON THIS DIAGRAM. 
          THAT'S THE VITAL RECORDS. 
          CURRENTLY, WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN PEOPLE THERE OFFICES ALREADY, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN OUR SHELTER FOR THOSE FOLKS. 
          AND SO IT WOULD JUST BE OCCUPYING THE REST OF THAT SPACE, UM, AS IS THAT SPACE IS REALLY NICE. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN, UM, UH, THERE'S BEEN AN INVESTMENT OF RESOURCES TO UPGRADE THAT FACILITY. 
          AND SO WE WOULD JUST, UH, INHERIT THAT FACILITY, CREATING THAT SPACE NOW FOR A NEW CAT AREA. 
          BY DOING THEN THAT WE ARE ABLE TO THEN MOVE THE VETERINARY CLINIC OVER FROM ITS CURRENT PLACE INTO THAT H THAT BUILDING WHERE OUR CAT AREA IS AT, MAYBE LOOKING AT EXPANDING IT JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A DOMINO EFFECT, RIGHT? UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          WE WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF MAXED OUT IN OUR CAPACITY WITHIN THIS AREA BY MOVING OVER THE VETERINARY, UH, CLINIC FUNCTIONS INTO THAT, UH, EXISTING CAT AREA. 
          THEN WE'RE ABLE TO DO NUMBER ONE, UH, EXCUSE ME, NUMBER, UM, NUMBER FOUR, RIGHT? WHICH IS TO EXPAND THE EXISTING BACK OF HOUSE AREAS. 
          UM, SO TAKING UP THE CURRENT SPACE THAT'S OCCUPIED BY THE, THE VET SYSTEM. 
          BUT NUMBER THREE IS A BRAND NEW SYSTEM FOR US. 
          THIS IS SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM FOR, UM, THE, THE DOG BEHAVIOR, UH, PROGRAM. 
          SO WE'VE LEARNED, AND WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY FOLKS, IS IT'S HARD TO DO BEHAVIOR SUPPORT SYSTEMS PROGRAMS WITHIN A VERY BUSY, LOUD, UH, OPERATIONAL AREA. 
          SO THEN OCCUPYING THIS BEAUTIFUL PART OF OUR CAMPUS, UH, THAT'S, UH, TREE SHADED, UH, CANOPY. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN SEE THE VISION WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. 
          IT'S JUST NOT THERE YET, BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA THAT WE CAN REALLY, UM, MAKE IT WHAT IT COULD BE IN TERMS OF HAVING A BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT PROGRAM, AND THEN OCCUPYING THAT OFFICE BUILDING FOR STAFF. 
          SO ALL THE BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT WOULD BE IN THAT AREA, UH, OCCUPIED BY A NEW 
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KENNEL. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT OVERARCHING, UH, REVIEW AND THEN KIND OF GO INTO MORE SPECIFICS, UH, SPECIFICS ABOUT EACH SPECIFIC AREA. 
          BUT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. 
          NUMBER TWO HAPPENS BECAUSE STAFF LEAVES CAD AREA BECOMES THERE, CAD AREA MOVES, VETERINARY CLINIC GOES INTO THAT AREA, SUPPORTS, UH, THE BACK OF HOUSE OR IMPROVED BECAUSE WE MOVED THE VETERINARY, THE VETERINARY, UH, AREAS INTO THAT CAD H AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT. 
          AND THEN AS YOU BRING AN ARCHITECT, THIS HAS ALL BEEN DONE BY OUR IN-HOUSE STAFF, WORKING WITH OUR CAPITAL DELIVERY PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          AS WE, AS WE GET A REALLY STRONG ARCHITECT, I MEAN, WE CAN START LEVERAGING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND, AND MAKING THIS SPACE, YOU KNOW, A A LOT BETTER. 
          UH, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MEETING THE DEMANDS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT THERE AND, AND CLEAR DETAIL. 
          UM, AND THEN THIS IS NOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE NE CLINIC AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE, RIGHT? IT'S A STATE-OF-THE-ART CLINIC, UH, SURGICAL SUITES AND TREATMENT STATIONS. 
          UH, THIS HAS BEEN INFORMED BY OUR VET CARE TEAM, SO DR. 
          ELLIOT, ALL THE VETS AND, UH, OUR STAFF IN TERMS OF WHAT DO WE NEED, WHAT DO WE LACK RIGHT NOW, AND HOW CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER? HOW CAN WE GROW OUR CAPACITY WITHIN OUR EXISTING SITE? NOW, WE WOULD HAVE A PHARMACY LABORATORY AND MEDICAL STORAGE. 
          UM, IT WOULD SUPPORT URGENT EMERGENCY CARE AND EXPAND SURGERY CAPACITY. 
          SO WE WOULD LOOK AT, NOW WE HAVE THE SPACE, HOW DO WE ENHANCE OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE DELIVER? YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THIS IS ONE AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY OF FOCUS. 
          AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITIONAL, UH, SUPPORT SYSTEMS THAT NEED TO THEN MAXIMIZE THE SPACE. 
          BUT IT GIVES US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE DOING AS MUNICIPAL SHELTER? AND HOW CAN WE DO IT BEST UTILIZING THIS SPACE? AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN MAKE THE, THE SPACE PLANNING FIT. 
          UH, ONCE WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT ON BOARD, WE WOULD THEN GO INTO GREATER DETAIL TO, TO LOOK AT THIS. 
          BUT WE HAVE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS THAT REALLY INFORM THAT. 
          AND WE, AND, AND MOVE US PRETTY FAST INTO THAT PROCESS. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM A NEW, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, I WANNA EMPHASIZE IS THIS IS WORKING WITH, UH, ARCHITECTS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, DEPARTMENTS, UH, THAT DO THIS FOR A LIVING. 
          SO, UM, A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN PUT INTO, UH, INTO THIS EFFORT WITH EXPERIENCE, UM, PROJECT MANAGERS THAT DO THESE SIGNIFICANT, UM, PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          THIS IS A CAD WORD AGAIN, THIS IS CURRENTLY SPACE THAT WE OCCUPY, UM, BY, THAT IS OCCUPIED BY STAFF, AND WE HAVE A BREAK ROOM IN THIS AREA. 
          UM, OUR, OUR FIELD SERVICES OFFICERS, OUR I PROTECTION OFFICERS ARE HERE, ADMINISTRATIVE KEY ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL. 
          SO IT'S JUST REIMAGINING THIS SPACE TO CREATE THIS, UH, AREA TO FOCUS ON, UH, OUR, THE CATS, UH, SEPARATING IN THIS FROM THE CURRENT AREA, WHICH IS REALLY LOUD, THE BACK OF HOUSE AREA. 
          UH, WE CREATE, UH, A LOWER, UH, UH, NOISE ENVIRONMENT, UH, LOW STRESS. 
          UM, WE WOULD LOOK AT MAXIMIZING, UH, NATURAL LIGHT VENTILATION, VENTILATION, UM, AND REALLY JUST KIND OF MAKING THIS, UH, THE CAT FOCUS AREA AS YOU WALK IN. 
          SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A CAT, YOU'RE GONNA GO STRAIGHT TO THIS AREA, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE CAT RELATED WILL BE HERE. 
          UM, THIS IS, UH, JUST A RENDERING OF OUR DOG BEHAVIOR KENNEL. 
          AND THEN, UH, THIS IS KIND OF DEVELOPING AN ESTIMATE FOR THE SPACE SIZE AND, UH, THE COST ESTIMATE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR NEXT, UH, ASSIGNMENT HERE AND, AND STUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING INTERNALLY WITH STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME RESEARCH, HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF SETUP DO WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE, UH, FOR THIS DOG BEHAVIOR, UH, SUPPORT SYSTEM THAT WE WANT TO CREATE. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, I CAN, I CAN IMAGINE IT'S NOT GONNA BE OUR, OUR, OUR COPYING WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR OUR EXISTING KENNEL SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, CAN WE PROVIDE MORE SPACE, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE, UH, AIR FENCE IN AREA FOR THEM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF, UH, THE CAMP OF THE, OF THE AREA THAT WE HAVE BEHIND THAT H BUILDING, UH, IN OUR CAMPUS. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE, UH, SPECIALIZED KENNELS FOR BEHAVIORAL ASSESSMENT, TRAINING AND REHABILITATION. 
          AGAIN, UH, A LOWER STRESS AND NOISE ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, AND, AND, UH, LEVERAGING, YOU KNOW, THE, JUST THE, THE REALLY NICE, UM, UH, AREA THAT WE HAVE THERE WITH THE TREE CANOPY, UH, JUST A LOT QUIETER, UH, BACK END, UH, ON THAT NORTH SIDE OF THAT, UH, THAT CAMPUS AND THEN BACK OF HOUSE. 
          UM, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US. 
          UM, WE WANT TO INCREASE CAPACITIES FOR BOTH OUR, OUR LAUNDRY ROOM, OUR, OUR DISH WASHING AREA. 
          AND JUST FOR STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SPACE FOR STORAGE. 
          WE HAVE VERY LITTLE STORAGE SPACE. 
          UH, OUR HALLWAYS ARE OCCUPIED NOT JUST BY KENNELS AND ANIMALS IN THOSE KENNELS, BUT, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT WE UTILIZE. 
          AND THEN WE USE THE TRUCK, UH, UH, PORT AREA FOR A LOT OF THAT THING. 
          THOSE ARE, THEY'RE EXPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND SO WE JUST WANNA MAXIMIZE THIS, UH, THIS BACK OF HOUSE AREA TO, UH, JUST MAKE OUR, THE JOB FOR OUR STAFF A LOT EASIER FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS, A LOT EASIER. 
          UM, WE ALSO WANNA SPEND, UH, AS WE DO THIS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE OUR, UM, HVAC SYSTEM. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN I GOT HERE AND LOOKED AT OUR WORK ORDERS, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH OUR HVAC, UH, DIFFICULTY IN MAINTAINING THE TEMPERATURE IN THERE. 
          AND IT'S OLD. 
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AND AS YOU LOOK AT THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, THEY WEREN'T DEFINED. 
          THEY WEREN'T DEFINED IN TERMS OF WHAT ACTUAL TYPE OF FACILITY THAT WE WERE, YOU KNOW, DESIGNING AND BUILDING. 
          AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, ARE REALLY SELECTIVE AND IN TERMS OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE CONFIGURATION OF HOW THE UNITS RUN AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS RUNNING AT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BEST, UH, TEMPERATURES WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR FACILITY. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST EVEN MAKING IT MORE SUSTAINABLE AND DURABLE. 
          UM, IT'S A, A SYSTEM THAT WORKS TOO HARD THAT WE'RE ALWAYS, UH, HAVING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, IN INSERT, UH, WORK ORDERS TO GET REPAIR AND OR BRINGING IN COOLERS JUST BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVEN THAT GOOD CAPACITY. 
          IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, COOL ENOUGH, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT THIS FACILITY THAT WE HAVE, IT ACCEPTS BOTH STAFF, OUR VISITORS, AND OUR ANIMALS THAT WE CARE FOR. 
          AND SO IT'S, UH, IT GETS A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR. 
          UH, SO THAT, THAT'D BE SUPER IMPORTANT, UM, UH, FOR US. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY THOSE FOUR PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE BOND PROGRAM, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30 TO $40 MILLION, UH, IS OUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          UH, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH, UH, COMMISSIONS, UM, WITH, UH, BOND ELECTRIC ADVISORY TASK FORCE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. 
          AND SO AFTER THIS, UH, TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA SEND THIS OVER TO STAFF, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO HOLD LAW ON THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS THAT, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS SET IN PLACE TO, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DISCUSS YOUR, YOUR BOND SUBMITTAL PROJECT. 
          AND THEN THERE, UH, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS, THERE'LL BE SOME, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL, AND KIND OF SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH, UH, WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND KIND OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS. 
          I WANTED TO END THIS PRESENTATION WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DETERMINED THAT ARE, THAT OUR NEEDS FOR US THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND SO AS, AS YOU KIND OF START LAYING, UH, LOOKING AT THE LAY OF THE LAND IN TERMS OF THE CAPACITY THAT THE CITY HAS FOR ISSUING DEBT, AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE AND ALL OF THEIR NEEDS, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY SUBMIT A COMPETITIVE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT SOMETIMES YOU SUBMIT, YOU SUBMIT YOUR PROJECT, AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS MUCH MONEY, AND YOU DON'T GET THAT, YOU GET A LOT LESS. 
          AND SO I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DELIVER ON THESE THINGS IN A TIMELY MANNER AND BE AS COMPETITIVE AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO THESE TWO PROJECTS ARE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON DIFFERENT WAYS TO FUND THESE PROJECTS, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, CREATING CAPITAL CAMPAIGNS FOR, UH, RAISING MONEY. 
          SO THESE ARE TWO PROJECTS, AND I'LL GO INTO EACH ONE SPECIFICALLY THAT, UH, THAT CAME UP IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR STAFF. 
          AND IT CAME UP WITH, AS YOU WALK THROUGH THE SHELTER AND YOU SEE LIKE, WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF OUR RESOURCES BETTER. 
          AND SO THE STORAGE, UH, WAREHOUSE IS ONE THAT WE, UH, HAVE, ARE BEEN CONTEMPLATING ABOUT CREATING. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GO BIG AND STRONG AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I, THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, WILL STEEL, YOU KNOW, PREFAB BUILDING WORK FOR US, RIGHT? UM, DOES IT, DOES IT GET THE JOB DONE? AND IS IT MORE AFFORDABLE? IS IT FASTER TO GET IN THERE? YOU KNOW, THAT TECHNOLOGY IS, HAS ADVANCED PRETTY FAST, AND SO, AND IT'S, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SOLID, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, IS CREATING ANYWHERE BETWEEN A A 2,500 TO A 3000 SQUARE FEET FACILITY, UH, WAREHOUSE. 
          AND THAT, THAT WAREHOUSE WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSE ALL OF OUR, UM, UH, ORDERS THAT WE DO. 
          AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE PLACING ORDERS TOO FREQUENT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO PUT IT, AND THEN WE'RE SCRAMBLING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW UP ON TIME, RIGHT? AND SO WE WANNA SOLVE FOR THAT BY HAVING THIS, THIS WAREHOUSE AND THIS WAREHOUSE. 
          I ENVISION HAVING, UM, A REALLY GOOD STORAGE SYSTEM, A, UH, A DA COMPLIANT, GENERAL NEUTRAL, UH, BATHROOM. 
          AND THEN ANOTHER, UH, SPACE FOR US TO HAVE A BACKUP WASHER AND DRYER. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE FACE ISSUES WHERE OUR CURRENT WASHER AND DRYER, YOU KNOW, THE TWO THAT WE HAVE ARE EITHER BROKEN OR, AND WE DON'T HAVE A BACKUP PLAN. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, BY DOING THIS, WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY SUPPORT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOND PROJECT, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN SHUT IT DOWN AND DO THAT RENOVATION AND STILL HAVE AN AREA TO WASH THE, THE, ALL THE STUFF THAT WE NEED TO WASH TOWELS, BLANKETS. 
          AND SO, UM, AND THIS WILL BE REALLY, UH, LOCATED PRETTY, UH, CLOSE TO OUR EXISTING FACILITY, RIGHT? MAYBE PERHAPS NORTH OF THE CADDY SHACK AREA. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE PLAN THERE. 
          THE LAST ONE IS THE ENCLOSED PLAY YARD. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE REPLACING THE EXISTING PLAY YARD THAT WE HAVE AS YOU ENTER THE FACILITY, UM, UH, STRAIGHT OFF LA VAN LOOP, RIGHT? IT'S, UH, WE HAVE TWO PLAY AREAS THERE. 
          IT'S OUR BUSIEST ONES, AND YOU CERTAINLY SEE IT WHEN IT'S 11 O'CLOCK AND WE'RE HAVING TO STOP, YOU KNOW, AND SLOW DOWN AND ADD EXTRA CANOPIES FOR OUR STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS. 
          UM, SO WE WENT AND CLOSED THIS AREA, UM, CLIMATE PROTECTION, UH, AND THEN USE SOME OF THESE LARGE, UM, YOU KNOW, 15 BY 12, UH, ROLL UP DOORS SO THAT WHEN THE WEATHER GETS NICE, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THAT UP AND, UH, NOT HAVE TO RUN THE SYSTEM RIGHT, OF, UH, PROTECT, UH, CLIMB, UH, COOLING OFF THE, THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE HAVING IN CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW CAN WE, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATE THE NEED FOR THESE AND THEN GET SUPPORT. 
          UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT WAYS CREATIVELY, 
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UH, TO GET THESE PROJECTS, UH, FUNDED, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE BOND PROJECT. 
          SO, UM, YOUR IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO DO THAT AND YOUR PARTICIPATION WOULD BE, UH, GREATLY RECEIVED FROM US. 
          UM, AND I, I, I, WE, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DO IT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE MUCH NEEDED, UM, THINGS THAT SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR, THE, THE, THE CARE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR ANIMALS, UM, WE GET A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT SUPPORT THE, THE BACK OF HOUSE ACTIVITIES, LIKE THE WASHING AND, AND, AND THEY, THEY ALL KNOW THE NEED. 
          UM, AND, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE ENCLOSED PLAY AREA WHEN WE CAN OPERATE, UM, YOU KNOW, PLAY, PLAY TIME THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DAY AND NOT HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW HOT IT IS FOR OUR ANIMALS AND OUR STAFF, THAT'S JUST, THAT'D BE AWESOME FOR US. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE YOU WITH THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONER HOLT, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY IGNORANCE WITH THIS QUESTION. 
          SO, IS THE BOND ELECTION THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THE SAME THING AS LIKE THE TAX RATE ELECTION ALSO THE SAME THING AS PROP Q? OR IS THIS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PLOT OF FUNDING? IT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS. 
          SEPARATE FUNDING. 
          UH, SEPARATE ELECTION. 
          GOT IT. 
          THIS WILL HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO PROP QTRE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THIS LIKE COMING MONTH, THAT IS ONLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE $800,000 FOR THE REGIONAL ADOPTION CENTER, THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROCESS. 
          CORRECT. 
          YOU GOT IT, COMMISSIONER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER LOMAN, UM, SHOCKER OF ALL SHOCKERS, I'M GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          DON'T FORGET YOUR NAME, SIR. 
          SORRY. 
          GOD, I ALWAYS DO THAT. 
          UM, THE, IN IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN BUILD A BUILDING, BUT THAT DOESN'T CREATE A BEHAVIOR PROGRAM, DOESN'T CREATE BEHAVIOR STAFF, IS THAT, WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE THING THAT GOES INTO THE BUDGET ALONGSIDE IT? IS IT CONSIDERED IN THE, IN THE BOND REQUEST? HOW DOES THAT, HOW DO THOSE DOVETAIL INTO EACH OTHER, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? YEAH, SO, UM, THE FUNDING FOR ANY ASSOCIATED STAFF OR PROGRAMMING WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE BOND ELECTION, UH, FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 
          SO WE, AS WE WORK ON DEVELOPING THE PROGRAM, SO WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, START ON SORT OF DEFINING WHAT THAT PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE, HOW DOES IT OPERATE. 
          WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE FACILITY ALREADY, AND I'VE, I'VE ACTUALLY GONE TOWARD IT WITH SOME OF MY STAFF TO KIND OF SAY, JUST RE REIMAGINE THIS PLACE AND HOW CAN WE SET IT UP IN THE WAY THAT IT'D BE THE BEST FOR OUR PROGRAM. 
          AND SO I WOULD WANT TO START KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT PLANNING FOR THAT, WHAT CAN WE START ALREADY NOW, RIGHT? AND THEN KNOWING THAT WE CAN, THAT THE, THE, THE PROGRAM WILL BE BUILT OUT BASED ON THIS FACILITY AND THE CAN BE IN THERE. 
          SO WHATEVER WE CAN START NOW, WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE BUILDING UP THE ENTIRE PROGRAM WITH THE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS FACILITY, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS KENNEL SYSTEM, RIGHT? AND, UM, SO THAT'S HOW I ENVISION THAT COMMISSIONER IS LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM, WRITING THE PROCEDURE, THE PROCESS, CREATING FORMS AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          UM, WHAT CAN WE DO NOW? WHAT CAN WE DO NOW WITH THE STAFF? AND THEN WHAT DO WE NEED WHEN WE BUILD OUT THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM, MAYBE WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR, THE SECOND YEAR, THE THIRD YEAR, AND THEN REQUEST THAT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          'CAUSE THE ONLY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'M, I LOVE THE IDEA OF, OF EXPANDING OUR BEHAVIOR PROGRAM, UM, IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD IS A CONCERN THAT WE END UP WITH A SEPARATE BUILDING WITH DOGS WHO GET LABELED AS HAVING BEHAVIORAL CHALLENGES, AND THEN WE JUST END UP WITH A BUILDING FULL OF DOGS YEAH. 
          WITH BEHAVIORAL CHALLENGES, WHO ACTUALLY DECLINE MORE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THAT PROGRAM TO GO WITH IT. 
          SO THAT'S JUST MY, YEAH, NO, MY, MY HOPE IS THAT, UM, AS WE HAVE THOSE DOGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, AND THEN WE DEVELOP OUR CRITERIA AND WE SAY, OKAY, LIKE, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS DOG CAN BE HELD WITH THIS PROGRAM, THAT THAT DOG WILL NOW BE IN THIS NEW BUILDING, IN THIS NEW KENNEL SYSTEM. 
          AND LET'S SAY WE, WE DEVELOP A 12 WEEK PROGRAM BY WEEK SEVEN, LIKE WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING FOR THE ADOPTER. 
          AND THEN THE ADOPTER COMES IN AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AND THEY'RE ENGAGING WITH THEIR DOG, THEY'RE PROVIDING SUPPORT. 
          UH, WE ARE, WE'RE PROVIDING SUPPORT TO THEM TO LIKE, HEY, LIKE, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. 
          HERE'S ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE A REALLY GOOD PAIRING. 
          AND BY THAT WEEK 12, YOU KNOW, THAT DOG'S ADOPTED, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ONE. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE THE VISION THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND SO NOW IT'S KIND OF CREATING THAT PATHWAY, UH, TO RUN THAT PROGRAM AS IS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER TIES, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UH, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, THE BOND, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 30 MILLION 
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TO $40 MILLION TO RAISE THEIR AMOUNT MONEY TO, TO FINANCE. 
          SO THIS PROJECT YEAH. 
          AS WE DO, UM, I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M GONNA LET YOU FINISH YOUR QUESTION, I APOLOGIZE. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          SO, UH, AND I, I, I, I CAN TELL THERE HAS BEEN PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT, AND WITH THE PHASING, THE CONSTRUCTION, UM, THE WHOLE PROCESS, UM, NICE LOOKING PLACE. 
          MY, MY QUESTION IS WITH THAT INVESTMENT, UM, WHAT THE INCREASE IN CAPACITY OF INTAKE, OF COURSE WE WANT, UH, OUTCOMES OF ANIMALS GETTING ADOPTED. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND OVER 5,000 AND ANIMALS. 
          YEAH. 
          HAVE YOU GUYS PROJECTED WHAT WILL BE THE INCREASE? YEAH. 
          YOU WILL BE A ABLE TO, UH, TO BRING IN MORE ANIMALS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THEN, AND QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH, UH, IN THIS EFFORT. 
          YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING, WE'RE REINVESTING IN OUR EXISTING FACILITY AND, AND, AND BUILDING CAPACITY IN THE CAT AREA. 
          WE'RE BUILDING CAPACITY WITHIN OUR SMALL DOG, UM, UM, POPULATION. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, OUR SMALL DOGS, THEY'RE REALLY IN, UH, THEY'RE REALLY HOUSED IN KENNELS THAT WERE CREATED FOR CATS, AND WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          AND, AND WORKING ON THAT EFFORT, WORKING ON RESOLVING THAT EFFORT WELL BEFORE THIS BOND ELECTION. 
          UM, SO YEAH, THERE'LL BE INCREASED CAPACITY FOR OUR, OUR CATS. 
          THERE'LL BE SOME NEW PROGRAMMING OR ENHANCED PROGRAMMING. 
          THERE'LL BE SOME SPACE FOR, UH, OUR SMALL DOG POPULATION AND, AND MAKING THOSE MORE PRESENTABLE, MORE EASIER ACCESS, YOU KNOW, BY FOLKS COMING INTO OUR CENTER, UM, BEING ABLE TO INCREASE CAPACITY IN HOW WE DO RIGHT NOW, ALL THE MEDICAL CARE FOR OUR ANIMALS, AND THEN JUST INCREASING THE ABILITY TO DO MORE OF OUR BACKHOUSE STUFF, RIGHT? AND THEN JUST CREATING, UM, A BETTER PLACE FOR OUR STAFF TO WORK IN, RIGHT? UM, MORE EFFICIENT. 
          AND, UM, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE RIGHT SPACE TO, TO WORK, UM, IS SIGNIFICANT TO MORALE IS SIGNIFICANT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, THE ENERGY THAT YOU HAVE AND, AND BEING RESOURCEFUL WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU GOTTA DO. 
          UM, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE, THE ADDING CAPACITY FOR OUR, OUR, OUR DOGS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I'VE, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THIS, RIGHT? IS IT, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO KEEP BUILDING MORE AND MORE AND MORE KENNELS AND KENNELS AND KENNELS? AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE ANSWER. 
          WE, WE GOTTA LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND BE MORE EFFICIENT. 
          CERTAINLY, UH, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE IN, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR SIX MONTHS, LIKE WE'VE BEEN IN THAT MULTIPURPOSE ROOM QUITE A BIT OF THAT TIME. 
          AND SO I FEEL LIKE I GOTTA DO SOMETHING. 
          UM, BUT THIS, THIS BOND PROGRAM REALLY ONLY LOOKS AT IT WHEN WE BUILD THAT KENNEL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CAMPUS. 
          IT'S REALLY FOR THE BEHAVIORAL DOGS. 
          SO I THINK BY MOVING THOSE OVER FROM OUR EXISTING KENNELS, THAT'LL CREATE SOME SPACE. 
          SO IF WE BUILD, LET'S SAY 40 TO 50 KENNELS ON THE NORTH SIDE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'LL LOOK AT THE DOGS THAT WE BELIEVE CAN BE GOING THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, AND THAT CREATES SOME, SOME SPACE IN OUR EXISTING KENNEL SYSTEM, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE NOT, ASIDE FROM THAT, WE'RE NOT BUILDING LIKE MORE KENNEL SYSTEM, CREATE MORE SPACE, I THINK, UM, WE WILL CREATE SOME SPACE BY, YOU KNOW, MOVING OVER THOSE BEHAVIOR DOGS SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          UM, BUT THAT SPACE WE'RE PROBABLY JUST BUILDING FILLED UP, YOU KNOW, JUST AS QUICK. 
          AND SO IT'S US, UH, INTERNALLY TALKING TO THE STAFF AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE DO BETTER EVERYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? HOW CAN WE DO MORE OUTCOMES? UH, HOW CAN WE DO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN, UH, ADOPTIONS, THAT'S FOSTERING, THAT'S RESCUE, UM, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD IN MORE AND MORE AND MORE SPACE, AND IF WE DO BUILD IT AND WE'RE BUILDING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE OUTSIDE OF THIS CAMPUS, RIGHT? AND SO TO BE MORE, UM, ACCESSIBLE, REACHABLE BY OUR GROWING POPULATION, BUT ALSO HOW SPREAD IT IS THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR AREA. 
          AND MY HOPE IS THAT IF THE TRE PASSES IN NOVEMBER, WHICH IS ONLY FOR THAT $800,000, THAT MONEY CAN BE USED TO REALLY KIND OF FIGURE OUT THE, HOW, WHEN, AND WHERE, UH, TYPE OF PROGRAMMING THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP SOMEWHERE ELSE OUTSIDE THAT SHELTER. 
          AND THEN WE USE THAT, UH, EFFORT TO KIND OF INFORM THE REMAINING PART OF OUR, OUR, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE GROW AND WHERE DO WE GO AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE SOMEWHERE ELSE? IS THAT A, A FULL SHELTER, A FULL SERVICE SHELTER, OR IS THAT A PARTIAL SHELTER? AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING LIKE BED CARE IS DONE AT THE CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYTHING LIKE, UH, FIELD SERVICES IS DONE AT THIS CENTRAL PLACE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAD JUST HAVE MORE SPACE FOR, I MEAN, REAL ESTATE, EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON REAL ESTATE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST REINVESTING IN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THAT SAVES A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND, AND MONEY 
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AND, AND NOT HAVING TO BUY STUFF RIGHT NOW OR OUR REAL ESTATE, BUT THAT GIVES US TIME TO DO THE REST OF THE STUFF. 
          AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT, UH, HOPEFULLY HAVING THIS $8 AND THEN REALLY KIND OF PUTTING THE PATH ON HOW DO WE, WHAT DO WE NEED NEXT OUTSIDE OF OUR CURRENT CENTRAL SHELTER. 
          ANY, OKAY. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I WOULD JUST SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'VE HEARD, UM, PEOPLE SAY, OR THERE'S BEEN RUMORS ABOUT, OH, EXPANDING THE SHELTER. 
          AND I THINK THAT ALWAYS HIT ME AS JUST LIKE YOU WERE JUST SAYING, CREATING MORE KENNEL SPACE FOR ANIMALS TO GO AND GET STUCK. 
          AND THAT NEVER SOUNDED LIKE AN ANSWER TO ME, BUT SEEING THIS ACTUAL PROJECT, WHAT, WHAT I AM PERSONALLY SEEING WHEN I, WHEN I SEE THESE PLANS, IS I'M SEEING MORE PROGRAMS, SEEING MORE LIFESAVING OPPORTUNITIES AND MORE SPACE IN WHICH TO RUN APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS. AND SO, UM, I FOUND THIS VERY EXCITING AND VERY, UM, PROMISING, UH, I WILL BE TRANSPARENT THAT THERE IS A, A SPACE ON THE PROPERTY THAT I'M JUST KEEPING SET ASIDE IF THERE EVER IS NEED TO, YOU KNOW, DO THAT. 
          IT'S NOT MY, MY GOAL, BUT IF THERE IS, LIKE WE EARMARK, YOU KNOW, A SPACE FOR THAT, UH, THAT SPACE. 
          AND SO I, I ENVISION THIS CAMPUS TO BE, UM, A FULL CAMPUS WHERE WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, AREAS FOR FOLKS TO COME IN, UM, AND TAKE OUT THEIR DOGS THAT THEY WANT TO MEET AND GREET, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST BETTER, RIGHT? UM, CERTAINLY, UH, HOUSING OUR EMANCIPATE PARTNERS, UM, UM, THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY INVESTING IN THEIR, UH, CURRENT MODULAR SETUP. 
          UH, AND THEN WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, UH, AUSTIN WILDLIFE RESCUE TO ALSO PROVIDE SOME SPACE THERE THAT THEY CAN, UM, BRING IN A MODULAR, THEY'RE OUR BATTLE PARTNER OF OURS. 
          AND SO JUST LOOKING AT THIS AS A COMPREHENSIVE SPACE FOR, FOR ALL OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICES NEEDS, BUT RECOGNIZING THAT WE STILL HAVE TO START KIND OF REACHING OUT TO EXTENDED AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, TO BE MORE APPROACHABLE, REACHABLE BY OUR COMMUNITY. 
          YEAH, AND I DID APPRECIATE THAT ON THE, THE MOCKUPS OF THE H BUILDING, YOU COVERED THE HUGE GLASS WINDOW PANES THAT BIRDS FREQUENTLY FLY IN WAS VERY, WE DID THAT, RIGHT? WE DID THAT RIGHT BEFORE THE PRESENTATION EARLIER. 
          I'M SORRY, I'M MESSING THAT. 
          I WAS TO SAY THAT. 
          AND I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT WHEN I HAVE HAD MY, UM, MY CORNELL APP RUNNING THAT RECOGNIZES BIRDS BY THEIR CALL, THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN MORE DIVERSITY THAN WHEN I'M ON THE CAMPUS THERE. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE I WANNA BE MINDFUL OF. 
          AND OUR, IN OUR, UM, UH, THAT PECAN GROVE IS PRETTY AMAZING. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF LIKE THE HOLISTIC VISION THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING, THAT WE CAN MAKE IT A REALLY AWESOME PLACE. 
          YEAH. 
          I I THINK IT'S GONNA BE REALLY COOL SPACE. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 
          YOU BET. 
          Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. 
          DRIVE SAFE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, ACTUALLY YOU GOT SOME WATER , I WANNA SAY. 
          YOU ARE GONNA GET LARGER WASHERS. 
          I WORKED THE LAUNDRY ROOM, SO I KNOW. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL. 
          YES. 
          I WAS THINKING OF YOU WHEN I WAS SEEING THOSE NEW WASHING ROOMS AND NEW MACHINES. 
          I'M, WE WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION 
          [9. Approve the formation of a working group that advocates for renter’s policies for large breed dog owners. ]
AND ACTION ITEM NUMBER NINE, APPROVE THE FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP THAT ADVOCATES FOR RENTER'S POLICIES FOR LARGE BREED DOG OWNERS. 
          THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY, UM, COMMISSIONER HOLT LAST TIME. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT ON IT? UH, KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, BUT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          IT'S LATE. 
          SO THERE'S, YEAH. 
          ARE YOU INTERESTED IN, YOU DON'T NEED TO BELABOR THE POLL. 
          ARE YOU INTERESTED IN SHARING IT OR RUNNING IT? YES, I'M INTERESTED IN CHAIRING IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WOULD LOVE HELP CHAIRING THESE THINGS ALONE IS HARD. 
          SO WOULD LOVE HELP . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I LIKE COMMENT ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANDREW DIRECTOR WANTS TO COMMENT ON IT. 
          YES. 
          I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE A, A NEW, UH, AUSTIN HOUSING DIRECTOR, UM, MS. DOTA DEAN, UM, I, I MET WITH HER RECENTLY. 
          SHE, UH, HAS SOME EXPERIENCE, UH, UH, WORKING WITH ANIMAL SHELTERS IN KANSAS CITY. 
          SO I TALKED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, AS I CAME INTO THE DEPARTMENT, I, I, I, I'VE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO, WELL, I FEEL LIKE I'VE DONE THAT ALREADY. 
          I REACHED OUT TO EVERY DIVISION AND, AND KIND OF LEARNED, HEY, WHAT'S WORKING? WHAT'S, WHAT'S NOT WORKING? WHAT ARE WE MISSING? AND THIS IS AN ITEM THAT CAME UP QUITE FREQUENTLY FOR SOME OF MY, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE STAFF, RIGHT? AND HEARING FROM PEOPLE ABOUT WHY ARE YOU, UH, HAVING THE OWNER SURRENDER AND WHY CAN'T YOU KEEP THIS ANIMAL THAT YOU FOUND IN OUR COMMUNITY? UH, IF YOU HAVE INTEREST IN, AND THIS WAS ONE THAT CAME UP, SO I'VE GIVEN HER THE HEADS UP AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER ON THIS WITH STAFF? AND, AND, AND HERE'S WHY, BECAUSE THE CITY OF AUSTIN THROUGH ITS, UM, AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, UH, WHICH IS AN UMBRELLA OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, WE DO A LOT OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE EITHER ARE PROVIDING MONEY OR PROVIDING LAND, WE'RE BROKERING THE LOAN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE HAVE AN INVESTMENT AND THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S ONE RIGHT NEXT TO OUR, OUR, OUR, 
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UH, CAMPUS, RIGHT? AND SO HOW DO WE START THERE FIRST SET THE EXAMPLE, AND THEN ASK OTHERS TO FOLLOW THAT ARE NOT CITY SUPPORTED. 
          AND SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOW ME TO BE WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY TO, AND THEN MAYBE BRING IN MS. DEAN IN TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH HER STAFF. 
          AND SO, UM, I, 'CAUSE I HAD SHARED THAT WITH HER AND SHE WAS REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH HER BEFORE I SAW THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO, BUT I WOULD LOVE AND APPRECIATE ANY GUIDANCE YOU CAN GIVE. 
          SO IF YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT INTRODUCTION. 
          ALSO, FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THIS MEETING OR ANY PARTICIPANTS, EMAIL ME BC WHITNEY.HOLT@AUSTINTEXAS.GOV. 
          I WOULD LOVE PARTICIPANTS IN THIS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THE HIGH NEED. 
          I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, POTENTIALLY MAYBE FOR THE CHAIR, MAYBE FOR OUR ADVISORS HERE. 
          UM, IF WE WERE TO EXPAND THIS WORKING GROUP, UH, TO PETS AND LIKE PET FRIENDLY RENTER POLICIES IN GENERAL, WOULD THAT, UM, BE A HUGE HEADACHE? WHAT, WHAT IS ALLOWABLE? DO I NEED TO LIKE RENAME THE WORKING GROUP AND COME BACK IN A MONTH? , LIKE I, I SOMETIMES GET CONFUSED BY AGENDAS. 
          RIGIDITY, . 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, IT, IT IS POSTED FOR LARGE BREED DOG OWNERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED. 
          BUT IF YOU WANT TO FORM THE GROUP THAT WAY IT AT LEAST KICKS IT OFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE CAN MM-HMM . 
          ADD IT TO THE AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING IN ORDER TO KIND OF REVISE THE SCOPE OF WORK AND POTENTIALLY MEMBERSHIP. 
          PERFECT. 
          LET'S DO THAT. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND IF I CAN JUST ONE MORE THING. 
          IF, IF YOU NEED SOME, UH, UH, STAFF SUPPORT, UH, I ALSO WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO HAVE JUAN TORRES, UH, FROM OUR TEAM THAT'S WORKING ON STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PLAN REGARDING THIS. 
          AND SO I KNOW YOU'RE REALLY BUSY, BUT IF, UM, I KNOW YOU ALSO HAVE SOME INTEREST IN THIS, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONER HOLT THAT WE ALSO JUST ENGAGE JUAN. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          CAN I, UH, SO COMMISSIONER HOLT, YOU MOVE TO CREATE THE WORKING GROUP? YES. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER LOIN ALL THE, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? UH, IF, IF, IF COMMISSIONER AHMED AND COMMISSIONER TIES ARE VOTING, I CAN'T SEE IF, OH, OKAY. 
          UNANIMOUS . 
          THANK, UH, UM, MOVING ON TO NUMBER 10. 
          [10. Approve the Animal Advisory Commission’s 2026 Regular Meeting Schedule. ]
I'M SORRY, CHAIR. 
          HAVE THE, SO SORRY. 
          HAVE THE MEMBERS OTHER THAN COMMISSIONER HOLT BEEN IDENTIFIED? IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO BE ADDED TO THAT GROUP? UH, I'LL JOIN COMMISSIONER LOY AS WELL. 
          AND COMMISSIONER LOY AND COMMISSIONER HOLT ARE ADDED WITHOUT OBJECTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          APPROVE THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION 2026, UH, REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE. 
          UM, I DID LOOK AT THESE DATES AND THE MARCH ONE DOES NOT FALL IN SPRING BREAK, SO THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          UM, AND I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER REASON NOT, NOT TO HAVE ANY OF THESE. 
          DO I NEED TO READ THESE IN? NO, THEY'RE POSTED TO BACKUP. 
          SO IN JUST A MOTION IN A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN A CALL FOR A VOTE. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WILLING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THESE DATES? ? YEAH, WE, WE WILL MOVE SECOND AND THEN DISCUSS. 
          ANYBODY WILLING TO MOVE? SECOND? OKAY. 
          UH, WHITNEY, COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          MOVED SECOND. 
          SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LOY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? I I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ON MARCH. 
          WE CAN APPROVE IT AND WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS CANCEL IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST WEEKS, SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET INTO THE AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WILL, UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT LATER. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE VOTING. 
          YAY. 
          APPEARS UNANIMOUS. 
          UH, DISCUSSION 
          [11. Approve an update to the membership of the Strategic Plan Working Group. ]
AND ACTION ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 11, APPROVE AND UPDATE TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN WORKING GROUP. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER FERGUSON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE WANTED TO, UM, ON RECORD ADD THREE MEMBERS. 
          JENNIFER, DANIEL, COMMISSIONER JENNIFER, DANIEL, CHRISTY SHEHAN, AND JEFF LIU. 
          LIU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO COMMISSIONER FERGUSON, DO WE NEED TO MOVE AND VOTE? YEAH, YOU DO NEED TO MOVE AND VOTE. 
          AND SECOND AND VOTE TO JUST APPROVE THE UPDATE TO THE MEMBERSHIP. 
          GREAT. 
          [03:40:01]
COMMISSIONER FERGUSON MOVES TO ADD THOSE MEMBERS. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER NORTON SECONDS. 
          ANY DISCUSSION AT, UH, COMMISSIONER NORTON? DO YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? SORRY, COMMISSIONER NEHMER, DO YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? YES. 
          I WANTED TO ALSO THROW MY HAT INTO THE RING TO BE ON THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          CAN YOU OR WORKING GROUP UPDATE US ON WHERE WE ARE ON COMMISSION MEMBERS ON THE WORKING GROUP AT THIS POINT? UM, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE A FORM. 
          1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          OH YEAH, YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE ON. 
          I'M ON IT. 
          1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          WE CAN HAVE SIX, CORRECT? YES, YOU CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN, SO AMENDED TO ADD COMMISSIONER, ER. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? UNANIMOUS. 
          ALL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEN FINALLY 
          [12. Update from the Strategic Plan Working Group on the first group meeting and communications with shelter staff. ]
SECOND TO LAST UPDATE FROM STRATEGIC PLAN WORKING GROUP ON THE FIRST GROUP MEETING AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH SHELTER STAFF, UH, COMMISSIONER FERGUSON. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER NEHMER FOR VOLUNTEERING TO JOIN. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S AWESOME. 
          WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT TEAM. 
          UM, SO WE HAD A MEETING, UM, ON THE FIRST, AND WE DISCUSSED HOW WE WERE GOING TO TACKLE, UM, THE PLAN COLLABORATIVELY, AND WE BROKE OUT THE, THE SIX DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          UM, AND WE SORT OF ASSIGNED OURSELVES LIKE ONE, TWO, OR THREE OF THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA BE REGROUPING WEDNESDAY. 
          UM, WE HAD A REQUEST FROM, UM, ANIMAL SERVICES FROM JUANI TO, UM, PRIORITIZE 10 TO 15 OF THOSE, UM, INDIVIDUAL STRATEGIES. 
          UM, AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE MEET ON WEDNESDAY. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF CRITERIA FOR THAT. 
          UM, JUAN IS PLANNING TO, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TOO MUCH FOR JUAN, UM, BECAUSE I'LL LET HER DO THAT NEXT MONTH, BUT SHE'S PLANNING TO DO A PRESENTATION POTENTIALLY NEXT MONTH ABOUT JUST WHERE THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE THEY ARE WITH THE, THE DASHBOARD THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, PLANNING TO ROLL OUT. 
          UM, I BELIEVE IN JANUARY. 
          SO, UM, YEAH. 
          SO IT'S IN, IT'S IN PROGRESS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERY, UH, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? NO, COMMISSIONER. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          SO FUTURE AGENDA 
          [ FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
ITEMS. SOUNDS LIKE SHOULD TODAY WE, THIS IS A, UM, STAFF BRIEFING FROM JUANIE ON, DID YOU WANNA DO THAT IN NOVEMBER? THAT'S THE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HAVE A STAFF BRIEFING FROM ON, UM, PLAN, STRATEGIC PLAN DASHBOARD. 
          UM, I BELIEVE THERE WAS ALSO A QUEST FOR SHELTER BUDDY DISCUSSION. 
          SHELTER BUDDY. 
          UM, THE UPL AND RPL, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT FORM THAT, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THEM DO A PRESENTATION EVERY TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS YEAH. 
          ABOUT PLACEMENT ON THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST ROUTE TO DO THAT IS. 
          SO, UM, WE CAN, SHALL WE PUT IT ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND ASK IF THEY WANT A PARTICULAR UPDATE? SURE. 
          IF THEY WANNA GIVE A PARTICULAR UPDATE FIRST NEXT TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA THROW MORE REPORTS, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          I THINK WE CAN DO, UH, SORT OF A SET THE FOUNDATION, WHAT THIS IS U-P-O-R-P-O, AND THEN JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE GO, UH, FOR INFORMING THE UPO AND THE, AND THE RPO. 
          I THINK THAT'S, UH, WE CAN DO THAT FOR SURE. 
          AND THEN, SO DID YOU WANT SHELTER BUDDY UPDATE AND DISCUSSION AS A SEPARATE ITEM? YEAH, I, I, I KNOW WE, THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH SHELTER BUDDY. 
          UM, AND THEY DO CROSSOVER INTO THE UPL AND THE RPL SINCE WE'RE PUTTING OBSERVATIONS AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THAT DETERMINATION OF WHO ENDS UP WHERE. 
          SO THAT TO ME, KIND OF DOVETAILS TOGETHER. 
          I DON'T THINK THE SHELTER BUDDY THING NEEDS TO BE A ONGOING AS MUCH, BUT NONE OF THESE WILL BE ONGOING. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK FOR SHELTER BUDDY, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THERE IS JUST HERE WAS OUR, HERE WAS OUR, UH, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT AND HERE'S WHERE IT'S REMAINING. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO SHELTER BUDDY HAS, HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS WELL ON THEIR WAY BEFORE I, I, I CAME IN AND, YOU KNOW, WE LAUNCHED IT, UH, MY FIRST MONTH. 
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AND, UH, SINCE THEN WE HAVE A PRIORITIZATION OF WHAT'S REMAINING AND WHAT ARE WE DOING RIGHT. 
          TO, UM, KIND OF MEET ALL THE NEEDS THAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SAYING LIKE, THIS IS JUST GONNA BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT SYSTEM AND THEN WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO DO SORT OF AN IMPLEMENTATION STATUS. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, IT'S PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO THE, UM, PRESENTATION FROM A PA REGARDING BAR, BARN, CAT PROGRAM. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER FUTURE? YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA, Y'ALL ARE GONNA HATE ME, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A DISCUSSION PRESENTATION OF THE SEARCH FOR THE PERMANENT DIRECTOR. 
          UM, SINCE WE PUT OUT A, A SURVEY TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE MM-HMM . 
          WHAT THEY WANTED, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          SO IS THAT A, A REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE FROM CITY? SOMEONE, SOMEONE AT THE CITY? I WOULDN'T, SO YEAH. 
          WITH THE, POTENTIALLY WITH THE SEARCH GROUP. 
          SO WE CAN REQUEST THAT THEY YEAH, WE CAN, UH, WE, WE SIT DOWN WITH, UH, WELL ACTUALLY WE SIT DOWN WITH THE COMMISSION, LOOK AT THE AGENDA, RIGHT? SO I, I WOULD LOVE HER, WE COULD JUST RAISE IT UP TO THE A CM RIGHT. 
          AND KIND OF SEE WHERE SHE'S AT WITH THAT. 
          SO I'M NOT MAKING A COMMITMENT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH ANA OR A CM AND, UH, SHE CAN MAKE THAT DECISION ABOUT, HEY, I UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST AND WE ARE WHERE WE ARE AND I CAN DO THAT. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE NOT THERE YET AND I'M NOT READY TO DO THAT, BUT MAYBE NEXT TIME. 
          BUT I THINK THE, THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, SIGNS POSTED IN OUR BUILDING, I KNOW THAT SHE HAD WANTED TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S DONE THAT OR NOT, BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT SHE SAID THAT SHE WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK ON. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THANK YOU. 
          BUT YEAH, THAT'S HER, UH, HER PROJECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? UM, COMMISSIONER NEER, I JUST WANTED TO ASK COMMISSIONER LOYN IF IT WOULD BE OKAY TO AMEND, UH, WHAT YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT INITIALLY ABOUT THE RPL AND THE UPL TO INCLUDE A DISCUSSION OF THE MATRICES AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING THE DECISIONS ON THE MATRICES. 
          WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? I WOULD, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WOULD WITH ME JUST SAYING A SO STAFF WORK, I MEAN, . 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOW, JUST BEFORE, SORRY, I, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT COMMISSIONER HOLT DOES WANT TO HAVE AN UPDATE TO THE LANGUAGE FOR THE WORKING GROUP, UM, FOR NEXT MONTH SINCE WE'RE IN THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS SECTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EXPANDING IT TO OTHER ANIMALS. 
          GREAT. 
          AND THEN IF ANYBODY HAS WORKING GROUP UPDATES AND MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW NEXT TIME OR DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ONE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN WORKING GROUP? PROBABLY WILL BECAUSE I THINK, I DUNNO HOW THAT WOULD WORK. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE A SEPARATE ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST KEEP US POSTED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, JUST SO WE KNOW, CAN YOU TELL US THE DEADLINE FOR AGENDA ITEMS FOR NOVEMBER? LET ME, LET ME PULL THAT UP. 
          GIVE ME ONE SECOND. 
          IT'S NORMALLY FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE AGENDA POSTS AND THAT'S PRETTY QUICK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE, UM, AGENDA POSTED THREE BUSINESS DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. 
          SO LET ME GET YOU A DATE ADD. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF MATH INVOLVED, WHICH IS WHY I WAS TRYING TO JUST  ASK YOU WHAT THE DATE IS. 
          YES. 
          SO I HAVE NO FIVE DAYS. 
          SO AGENDA NEEDS TO POST ON THE FOURTH. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          SO OCTOBER 29TH. 
          OCTOBER 29TH YES. 
          IS THE DEADLINE FOR AGENDA ITEMS. SO, UM, JUST EMAIL ME IF WE, IF ANY MORE COME UP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANYBODY WANNA MOVE TO ADJOURN? MOVE TO ADJOURN. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER IAN MOVED. 
          AJOUR. 
          SECONDED. 
          COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU EVERYBODY. 
          THAT WAS A LONG ONE.
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