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COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION THE ORDER.
IT IS 3 0 5, UM, OCTOBER 17TH, 2025.
FIRST THING WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, UM, GO THROUGH THE ROLL CALL AND I'LL, UH, PLEASE, UH, DO A SHOW OF HANDS AS YOUR NAME IS MENTIONED.
UM, AND KNOW EUGENE IS GONNA BE ABSENT TODAY.
NO, SHE'S GONNA BE ABSENT TO LAUREN PENA AND RUPA.
NOTE THAT RUPA, KATHY RUSSELL, DEMAR JACKSON, UH, MR. PETERMAN AND DEREK EUGENE ARE NOT PRESENT YET.
SO TO START WITH, UM, I WANT TO GO AND THIS FIRST, UH, ACT, ACT NUMBER ONE IS WE WANNA GO THROUGH AND ANYBODY HAD HAD, IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LAST SEPTEMBER 19, 20, 25 MINUTES AND HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT.
IF NOT, I'LL ASK SOMEBODY TO MOTION FOR APPROVE OF MINUTES.
I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
ANY SECONDS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? SECOND.
SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, SHOW OF HANDS, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
SO, UH, THAT'S ONLY FIVE OF US, SO I GUESS I'M ABSTAIN.
SO THAT'S NOT, UH, WE NEED A QUORUM TO, WE NEED A QUORUM TO PASS SO WE DON'T HAVE QUORUM TO PASS.
UH, LAST MONTH'S MEETING, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.
AND, UH, SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I CAN, UM, UH, WE DON'T HAVE, WE CANNOT REQUEST, SO CARLOS GETS TABLED FOR NEXT MEETING WE CAN PUT TO VOTE AGAIN.
SO YOU WANT, DO WANT A MOTION TO DO THAT? SURE.
UH, MOTION TO TABLE FOR NEXT MEETING.
SO SHOW OF HANDS TO, UH, TABLE THIS APPROVAL OF LAST MONTH'S AGENDA TO NEXT MEETING.
SO THAT MOTION'S APPROVED TO PASS.
UM, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? NO.
NOBODY WAS, NOBODY SIGNED UP TO TALK.
[2. Staff briefing regarding progress on internal drive for commissioners to access cases files and date for commissioners to start reviewing cases.]
GO TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, UM, STAFF.LET SEE, LOOK AT MY CHEAT SHEET.
STAFF BREEDING REGARDING PROCESS, AN INTERNAL DRIVE FOR COMMISSION TO ACCESS CASE FILES AND DATES FOR COMMISSION TO START REVIEWING CASES.
UH, I AM GAIL MCCANN, THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT, OR AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT AND THE EXECUTIVE LAY LIAISON.
UH, WE MET WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT ON YESTERDAY.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING WAS TO DETERMINE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND SECURE METHOD TO PROVIDE THE CPRC MEMBERS WITH READ-ONLY ACCESS TO CASE REVIEW FILES.
AND SO THE PROPOSED SOLUTION NOW IS THAT WE WILL USE OFFICE 365 ENVIRONMENT TO GRANT SECURE ACCESS, UM, TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, THAT YOU WILL USE YOUR EXISTING CITY OF AUSTIN EMAIL FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SWEET COMMISSIONERS WILL PRIMARILY REVIEW THOSE PDF FILES, UM, THOSE AUDIO FILES AND THE BODY WORN CAM FOOTAGE FILES.
SINCE COMMISSIONERS WERE USED ON CITY ISSUED LAPTOPS, IT CAN ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY SOFTWARE THAT YOU NEED INSTALLED PRIOR TO, UH, THE TRANSFER OF THE FIOS.
UM, ONCE TESTING IS COMPLETE, UH, THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT WILL SHARE THE FOLDERS
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VIA A LINK WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, PROVIDE BASIC READ ONLY ACCESS, AND THEN WE NEED TO TEST IT.SO THE NEXT STEPS IS THAT WE WOULD BE REQUESTING THAT EITHER THE CHAIR OR THE CO-CHAIR, UH, HAVE SOME AVAILABILITY.
NEXT MEET WEEK TO MEET WITH, UH, MYSELF, THE IT, UH, PERSONS FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN, JUST SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TEST THE SYSTEM BEFORE WE PUSH IT OUT TO THE, TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
AND SO, UH, AS A CONTINGENCY PLAN, UH, IN THE EVENT WE'RE DOING THE TESTING AND SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING CORRECTLY, WE WILL REVERT BACK, UH, TO THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE, WHICH WAS VIA DROPBOX.
IF YOU RECALL, INITIAL FILES YOU RECEIVED WERE VIA DROPBOX.
SO WE WOULD REVERT BACK TO THE FILE ACCESS VIA DROPBOX IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING WERE TO, TO GO WRONG WITH THAT.
UM, AGAIN, WE WOULD EITHER IDENTIFY SOMEONE FROM THE COMMISSION TO MEET ON NEXT WEEK WITH THE IT PERSON OR IF YOU OR THE CHAIR HAVE AVAILABILITY TO MEET.
SO WE ARE, UH, TESTING THE SHAREPOINT SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GONNA USE.
UM, JUST, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, I THOUGHT DROPBOX WAS, THE CITY HAD DECIDED DROPBOX WAS NO LONGER, UM, OFFICIAL.
WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY AT ALL YOUR ABILITY TO, UM, REVIEW CASE FILES.
WE'VE PUT IN ALL THE SAFEGUARDS THAT WE KNOW TO PUT IN AS IT RELATES TO DROPBOX TO ALLOW FOR THAT.
BUT WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS ONCE WE DO THE TESTING, IT HAS COMMITTED TO US THAT THEY WILL BE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE, THAT SYSTEM IS AVAILABLE AND READY NEXT WEEK.
AND SO WE DO WANNA AVOID, UH, HAVING TO USE THAT, BUT ONCE WE TEST THE SYSTEM, THEY WILL BE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO ENSURE THAT THE SYSTEM IS WORKING NEXT WEEK.
I MEAN, IT'S, UH, I IMAGINE WORKING OUT THE SYSTEMS IS A PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, I IMAGINE THERE'S A LOT OF SYSTEMS THERE TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, GET US IN TO READ ONLY ACCESS.
AND SO I IMAGINE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY.
SO, UM, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN.
COMMISSIONER FLOOD, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN AT A ARD OF THIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, EITHER DON UNDERSTOOD? YEAH, I WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR SURE.
AND IF THERE'S NO OTHER THING, NOTHING ELSE, I THINK WE'LL
[3. Discussion of commissioner’s communication, response to emails, commitment to working group meetings and working group work completion, communicating with each other, with Chair, Vice-Chair and with staff.]
MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION OF ITEMS SECTION DISCUSSION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS WE WANT, WE WANT A ROOM HERE TO DISCUSS, UM, COMMISSIONER'S COMMUNICATION, RESPONSE TO EMAILS, COMMITMENTS TO WORKING GROUP MEETINGS AND WORKING GROUP WORK COMPLETION.UM, COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER AND WITH CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND WITH STAFF.
AND I'M GONNA START THIS OUT 'CAUSE I, I PUT THIS ON HERE.
I KNOW THAT, UH, IN THE PAST, OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE BROUGHT THIS COMMUNICATION, COMMUNICATION, COMMUNICATION, THE, THE FLOOR.
AND I GUESS TO ME, THIS IS A, A A A PERFECT TIME.
LATER ON, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURES, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF THINGS, MAKE A CALL TO ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE YOURSELF PRESENT.
IT'S, UH, DISAPPOINTING THAT WE ONLY HAVE SIX RIGHT NOW WHEN THERE, THERE'S A FULL STAFF OF 11, SO I KNOW, UM, I WANT TO PUT IT ON RECORD.
ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, THE POLICE, UH, SHOW UP.
I ESPECIALLY HAVE STRUGGLED TO TRY TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH TOMA IS LIKE IN MY, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THE INDUSTRY FOR 40, 45 PLUS YEARS, BUT I'VE, I'VE HAD TO WORRY CONFIDENTIAL STUFF, BUT NEVER OPEN, UH, TEXAS OPEN LAW, UM, MEETINGS ACT.
SO I SUSPECT OTHERS HAVE BEEN, UH, FEARFUL OF, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATING TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE FEARFUL OF COMPLIANCE.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT YOU CAN DO, WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.
AND ONE THING I WANNA RECOMMEND, AS I'VE SEEN IS, UH, BEST PRACTICES, UH, RECOMMEND THE BEST PRACTICES.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO GET AHOLD OF, TRY FOLLOW THE PRACTICE OF REQUESTING THE STAFF LIAISON TO MAKE THAT DISTRIBUTION.
AND REMEMBERING, AND MAYBE PUT THE LANGUAGE IS NOT, DO NOT DELIBERATE.
THERE ARE NO DELIBERATIONS IN HERE.
IT'S JUST FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THIS IN TIME AND YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IT SO
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THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DELIBERATE YOU, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE TIME.THAT'S ONE THING I'VE TRIED TO EXERCISE THAT RECENTLY AND SOMETIMES HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH.
I THINK WE'RE CLARIFYING OUR EXPECTATIONS WITH THE, UH, STAFF LIAISON TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THE SAME THING GOES FOR, UM, EMAIL COMMUNICATION.
YOU KNOW, IT'S MY FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS CHAIR, AND WHILE UM, I HEARD OTHER COMMISSIONERS DISCUSS COMMUNICATION ISSUES AND EMAILS NOT BEING RESPONDED FROM DIFFERENT THINGS, AND I WAS A SKEP ADMITTED SKEPTICAL 'CAUSE I HAD NOT HAD THAT EXPERIENCE.
I'VE SHARE SOME OF THOSE EXPERIENCE NOW JUST AFTER WE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN, I'VE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF, ESPECIALLY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR COMPUTER RADIO AND WHATEVER.
I'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR SYSTEM UP AND GOING.
BUT, UM, PLEASE REVIEW YOUR, THIS IS A, IT'S A NEW EMAIL AND I STRUGGLE WITH IT TOO, BUT PUT IT AT THE TOP OF YOUR AGENDA TO LOOK AT YOUR CPRC EMAIL A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK OR SOMETHING, AT LEAST TO SEE IF ANYBODY'S REACHED OUT TO YOU.
UH, IF I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS AND EVERYONE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, AT LEAST THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR HAVING OUR PHONE NUMBER TO TEXT US IF WE AREN'T.
I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S UP TO US COLLECTIVELY WHETHER WE THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO YOUR EMAIL IN LIKE FIVE DAYS.
MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
I THINK SOME PEOPLE MAY CONSIDER THAT PRIVATELY THEY DON'T WANT TO.
I TRY TO PUT IT 'CAUSE I TRY TO FOLLOW ONCE AGAIN, BEST PRACTICE.
SO I HAVE MINE, SO YOU FEEL FREE TO TEXT ME.
TEXTING IS USUALLY A GOOD WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ME, BUT, UM, I'VE TRIED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING.
JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T MIND, PLEASE MAYBE ADD IT TO YOUR SIGNATURE, WHICH IS ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING THAT I BEST PRACTICE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO PUT A LITTLE SIGNATURE, UH, COMPLY WITH THE NEW NICE, BEAUTIFUL LOGO THAT WE HAVE.
UH, COLOR, GREEN AND BLUE LOGO AND SO FORTH.
SO THAT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO ADD TO IT.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I THINK THAT'S IT.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UH, MR. GRIEVE, UH, YOURSELF AND, UH, MS. FRANCO HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD AT COMMUNICATING, UM, TO ALL OF US EVER SINCE YOU ASSUMED THE HELM.
UM, SO THAT IS A SUSTAINED AND AN IMPROVEMENT.
UM, 'CAUSE BASICALLY IT WENT FROM ZERO TO, UM, ABOUT A HUNDRED AS FAR AS COMPLIANT.
AND SO IT'S NOT ON YOU TO DO MORE, IT'S FOR CERTAIN MEMBERS TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE.
AND I KNOW EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN PERSONAL THINGS GOING ON, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE CONSCRIPTED TO TAKE THIS POSITION.
SO I THINK WE ALL CAN MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE, AS YOU SAID, AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK OR SOMETHING, TO JUST DO THE DUE DILIGENCE SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE ROBUST COMMUNICATION AND ROBUST MEETINGS.
AND, UM, IT'S NOT ON JUST YOU, IT'S ON IT'S INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US.
AND WE ALL HAVE ISSUES THAT DO COME UP.
BUT IF IT'S A CONTINUOUS PATTERN, THEN MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S MORE THAN JUST SHOWING UP AND HOLDING CORN BECAUSE WE CAN GET SOME SKELETONS FROM THE LOCAL GRAVEYARD TO DO THAT.
WE NEED ACTUAL PARTICIPATION AND ENGAGEMENT TOO, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVE.
BUT I DO WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL FOR DOING A GREAT JOB THUS FAR, UM, UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.
UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE A POSSIBLE TIMEFRAME FOR THE THREE NEWLY SELECTED COMMISSIONERS BEFORE THEY GET ACCESS TO THEIR EMAILS? YES.
SO I HAVE PUT IN THE REQUEST, THEY SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY GETTING BACK NEXT WEEK AND THEN WE'LL SEND 'EM TO YOU.
UH, SPEAKING ABOUT THAT, I GUESS ABOUT COMMUNICATION, I SHOULD HAVE STARTED BY WELCOMING THE THREE NEW COMMISSIONERS, UH, LAUREN PENA.
UM, UH, WOULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF PLEASE? HI, MY NAME IS LAUREN PENA.
I'M A RESIDENT OF EAST AUSTIN.
I'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN SINCE I WAS 19 YEARS OLD.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY MY BIGGEST PASSION IS
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ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIVE IN, UM, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTIES IN EAST AUSTIN.SO IT IS A LOW INCOME, HIGH CRIME AREA.
AND I THINK THAT I'M THE PERFECT PERSON TO BEGIN TO MEND THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING SO RESPONSIVE WITH ME.
I KNOW I HAVE EMAILED YOU CONSTANTLY AND I FOUGHT HARD TO BE HERE, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK, UM, THE CITY MANAGER FOR APPOINTING ME TO THIS POSITION.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAD, UM, HAL POWELL AND, UH, LEE PETERMAN.
AND I THINK WE HAVE, CAN YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF, PLEASE? OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MUTED.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, UH, ALTHOUGH EVEN, UH, SOME OF MY KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL HERE.
AND SO I SPENT A LOT OF TIME EVEN BEFORE THEN IN AUSTIN.
UH, I'VE HAD A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ROLES THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.
UM, I'M A CHEMICAL ENGINEER, UH, WORKED FOR INTERNATIONAL PAPER, WORKED FOR SEVERAL OTHER COMPANIES MY LAST 15 YEARS I DID, I WAS A PARTNER IN A MANAGEMENT CONSULTING FIRM, AND I RETIRED ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO.
AND KIND OF AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT I DID GET SELECTED.
LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
AND, UH, AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY, MAN, ABOUT THIS, ABOUT COMMUNICATION NETWORK.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND ACKNOWLEDGED, UM, PRIOR COMMISSIONERS, ROBERT CORONA, MICAH RIO, AND JOHN BESKI WHO STARTED, AND, UM, THEY'RE NO LONGER COMMISSIONERS, BUT THEY'RE STILL COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND JUST THOUGHT, REACH OUT TO 'EM, TELL 'EM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS COMMISSION? SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMUNICATE WITH US WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK YOU COULD CONTRIBUTE.
UM, I KNOW IT'S OUT A LITTLE ORDER, BUT THIS PART OF A COMMUNICATION, MAKING SURE WE, WE KNOW EACH OTHER.
SO ONCE AGAIN, UH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS DIFFICULTY HERE.
THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ARE GONNA BE REALLY PUSHING BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THIS TSUNAMI OF CASES SENT OUR WAY.
COMMISSIONER, UH, TEZ VANCO AND FLORIDA, BEEN WORKING ON THE TRIAD AND SO FORTH.
AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SOME, SOME, UH, WORKING GROUPS ON HOW TO HANDLE.
BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO ANSWER YOUR EMAILS, YOU'RE GONNA BE TESTED RIGHT NOW GOING FORWARD.
ANYTHING ELSE? THEN WE'LL MOVE ON
[4. Discussion of commissioner’s key take aways from recent case-review training (2nd group) and potential recommendations on improvements to APD’s Internal Affairs and APO briefing process.]
TO NEXT ITEM.UM, AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A, WE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW TWO, UH, TEST CASES, TWO FORMAL CASES.
THESE WERE CASES THAT WERE ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED, DECIDED, AND IT WAS DECIDED WAS THE, THE COMMISSION WOULD USE IT AS A TEST, UH, TRAINING.
AND SO WE WERE, WE'RE, UH, BROKEN IN TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS AND THE FIRST GROUP HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THOSE TWO CASES OR MAYBE TWO, THREE MONTHS AGO.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK OR INITIAL FEEDBACK.
BUT I FOUND OUT THAT, UH, SINCE THEN, THE SECOND GROUP HAS HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THEIR TRAINING TOO.
AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF YOU THAT WEREN'T AT THAT FIRST, UH, REVIEW WITH ME, BECAUSE THAT WASN'T ONE, THAT FIRST GROUP TO, TO GIVE YOUR FEEDBACKS AND OR INSIGHTS OR ANY OBSERVATIONS YOU MAY HAVE BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS A GREAT CHANCE TO THINK HOW WE ARE GONNA BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT AND A PD GOING FORWARD.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A TEST, A TEST VEHICLE.
I KNOW IT WAS MYSELF AND, UH, I THINK TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE IN THE LAST ROUND.
AND SO IT WAS ENLIGHTENING TO HEAR FROM INTERNAL AFFAIRS, THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON THE CASES, ESPECIALLY IN A CASE THAT THERE'S DIFFERENCE OF, THERE WERE DIFFERENT RESULTS IN, IN, IN HOW TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE, UH, ISSUES FROM THE CASE.
UM, SO IT WAS REALLY NEED TO HEAR THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW I, I ASKED, WELL, AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS, HOW DOES THIS COME TO BE? WHY DID THIS HAPPEN THIS WAY? SO IT WAS, UM, EDUCATIONAL TO HEAR FROM THEIR STANDPOINT.
UM, I STAND WITH THE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
AND SO THIS IS WHY WE HAVE ALL OF THESE CHECKS AND MARKED TO FIGURE OUT INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
WE'RE NOT THE REVIEWERS, I'M SORRY, WE'RE NOT THE INVESTIGATORS.
UM, INVESTIGATORS, THANK YOU, COMM COMMISSIONER CARLOS, CHAIR CARLOS.
YOU KNOW, I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THE CASES.
I APPRECIATED THEIR UNDERSTANDING TO HELP ME BETTER UNDERSTAND FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IN SOME OF THOSE CASES, I WOULD'VE ALSO CITED WITH OPOS RECOMMENDATIONS, EVEN
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THOUGH THEY WERE DIFFERENT.SO I, I APPRECIATED THE, I THINK IT WAS HELPFUL TO LOOK AT THOSE TWO CASES.
SO I, I HOPE THAT THE NEXT ROUND OF COMMISSIONERS ARE ABLE TO ATTEND ONE OF THOSE INTERNAL AFFAIRS SESSIONS SO THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THEY DO THINGS THAT WAY, WHY IT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE A DATE IN WHICH THE NEXT TRAINING WILL BE FOR THAT SO THAT THE NEW COMMISSIONERS CAN GET THAT TRAINING? CURRENTLY WE ARE WORKING ON A TRAINING SCHEDULE.
I THINK THE INITIAL TRAINING WILL BE WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
UH, THAT'LL BE THE INITIAL TRAINING.
AND THEN WE WILL COLLABORATE IN, UM, WITH THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF TRAINING, JUST HAVING TO COORDINATE THE DATES AND THEIR AVAILABILITY TO CONDUCT THOSE TRAININGS.
SO DEFINITELY WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE NEW COMMISSIONERS RELATED TO THE TRAINING.
MY, MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT WAS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE WAS SIMILAR, SIMILAR WAS THAT I FELT THAT BOTH INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND A PO WERE EAGER TO GET FEEDBACK FROM US ON HOW TO CONDUCT THESE BRIEFINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING.
BECAUSE REMEMBER, UH, TO CLARIFY THINGS FOR SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, WE DO NOT DO INVESTIGATIONS.
WE PROFESSIONALS DO THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND A PO PEOPLE WITH SOME EXPERIENCE IN THAT.
WHAT WE DO IS REVIEW THE INVESTIGATION AND HOPEFULLY WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHETHER WE THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE OR NOT SUFFICIENT, ET CETERA.
SO THEY, SINCE THEY'RE WORKING NOW WITH, WITH, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NOT WORKING WITH THEIR CLASSIC EXPERTS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE IN A, IN A KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK TO SEEING HOW BEST COMMUNICATE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT, UH, POLICE OR PROFESSIONALS IN, IN THIS.
SO, UM, WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE AND I HOPE YOU GET TO DO THIS SOON, MR. PENA AND PEARSON, ANYTHING ELSE? I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
UH, MY EXPERIENCE WAS, IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING, BUT IT HELPED ME IDENTIFY A GAP BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE IA IS REALLY NOT FOCUSED ON THE COMMUNICATION ASPECT OF IT.
SO THERE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING, THERE'S DOING THINGS RIGHT, THERE'S POLICY AND THERE'S PROCEDURE, BUT THERE'S ALSO COMMUNICATION AND HELPING THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED.
AND IAS FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER AND THEIR RE AND DID THEY FOLLOW POLICY AND PROCEED.
AND MAYBE THEY DID, BUT IF THE PUBLIC FEELS LIKE SOMETHING WAS VIOLATE IT, AND NO ONE ELSE I HAD A PERSPECTIVE OR INPUT TO EITHER, MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE THE PROCEDURE, MAYBE WE SHOULD UPDATE THE POLICY, MAYBE WE SHOULD DEVELOP NEW GUIDANCE IF WE CAN'T GET THAT INPUT IN A TIMELY MANNER AND HAVE THAT ADOPTED OR CONSIDERED, IT'S LIKE IF A TREE FALLS IN THE WOODS, YOU KNOW, DID IT MAKE A SOUND? AND SO WHAT THAT SHOWED ME BY WATCHING THE VIDEOS AND TALKING TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MECHANISM TO HAVE ALMOST LIKE A TRILATERAL TYPE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OURSELVES.
'CAUSE I AGREE WITH A LOT OF OPOS FINDINGS THAT WERE NOT CONGRUENT WITH WHAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS FOUND AND IA OBO TO HAVE LIKE, ALMOST LIKE A TRILATERAL TYPE OF MEDIAN COMMUNICATION AND THEN BE ABLE TO MESSAGE THAT TO THE PUBLIC.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHO WE'RE SERVING AND REPRESENTING.
UM, WE JUST DID, I, IT JUST ENLIGHTENED ME THAT THERE'S NO CURRENT EXISTING MECHANISM AND WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS THAT TO BRING CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND, UM, IN A WAY THAT CONNECTS WITH PEOPLE.
IF I COULD RECOGNIZE, I, I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, YEAH, I, I THINK A BIG PART OF IT IS, UM, FINDING THAT RIGHT BALANCE OF TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN OFFICER THERE, SORRY, THE, THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, UH, GIVES OUT BRIEFING VIDEOS ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THEY HAVE TO REDACT OUT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY AS, AS IS APPROPRIATE, I THINK IS, IS A GOOD THING.
'CAUSE IT HELPS INFORM THE PUBLIC AS TO WHY OFFICERS DID WHAT THEY DID.
WHETHER WE, WE AGREE OR DISAGREE, AT LEAST THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND MAKE UP THEIR OWN MIND.
BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, NEXT ITEM? OKAY.
I'D JUST LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON MS. PENEZ QUESTION.
THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER WILL BE THE TRAINING, UH, FROM, FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE TRAINING SPECIALIST FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE WILL REACH OUT TO YOU REGARDING THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER'S TRAINING.
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CONTINUE, UH, I KNOW ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE TO STEP OUT IN ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO, AND THAT MEANS WE'LL NO LONGER MEET QUORUM.SO IF THERE ARE ANY PRIORITY ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO DISCUSS FIRST, JUST IN CASE THE TIME COMES, OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO BE TABLED TO NEXT MEETING.
UM, I WAS GONNA ASK, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD ADJOURN FOR 15 MINUTES AND THEN RESUME? 'CAUSE I JUST HAVE TO MAKE A QUICK RUN AND THEN, UH, WE COULD PICK UP.
IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THEN I'LL TRY TO PUSH IT OFF UNTIL, UH, ALL ITEMS ARE ADDRESSED SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN QUORUM.
I AM VERY, UH, FOR, UM, I'M REQUESTING A BREAK, BUT DO YOU WANNA DO THAT RIGHT NOW? OR YOU WANT, OR YOU, YOU, OR DO YOU WANT DO THAT? IN OTHER WORDS, DO YOU WANT THAT? 4:00 PM IS FINE.
SO I WILL WAIT 4:00 PM AND, UH, AND I'LL REQUEST THAT THAT BREAK 15 MINUTES IS, IS SO FOR SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DISCUSS, I THINK A A 15 MINUTE BREAK IS NOT A PROBLEM.
SO IN THIS CASE, I THANK YOU, UH, VICE CHAIR.
[5. Discussion of bylaws working group updates and consideration of dissolving the working group.]
ORDER HERE.THIS, THE FIFTH, UH, ITEM HERE WAS REGARDING, UM, WE HAD, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WERE WORKING ON OUR BYLAWS, WE HAD SET UP A WORKING GROUP TO, UH, I, NO, THE, THE, THE EXPLAIN THINGS BETTER.
WE PASSED, UH, BYLAW, BUT IN THE PROCESS WE HAVE SET UP WORKING GROUP.
AND THE IDEA WAS IF ANY WORKING GROUP WILL CONTINUE, IF THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS MORE WORK TO BE CONTINUED, THEN AT A LATER TIME, THEY COULD ALWAYS CONTINUE THAT WORK ON THE, ANY AMENDMENTS, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
AND WE WILL GO BACK AND CHANGE IT AND RESUBMIT IT TO GET TO FOR SIGNATURE TO THE, UM, CITY.
UH, I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY, I, I WAS TAKEN OVER AS, AS CHAIR.
I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE WORK IN THE BYLAWS WORKING GROUP.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE PRESENT THAT'S IN THAT.
SO, I, I SUSPECT THERE'S NOBODY HERE PRINT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, PASS THIS DISCUSSION OFF TO MAYBE NEXT TIME, NEXT WEEK.
AND I, I WAS ON THAT WORKING GROUP, HUH? I THINK I'LL GO ON THAT WORKING GROUP.
SO THEN IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE AND AS, AS, AS REPRESENTED OF THAT WORKING GROUP, IT'S LITERALLY A MICROCOSM OF WHAT YOU SEE TODAY AT THIS QUORUM.
UM, THERE IS VERY LIMITED PARTICIPATION AS THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT WORKING GROUP ARE NOT HERE TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DISCUSSION ITEMS, BUT TO MAYBE REINVENT OR RESELECT COMMIT MEMBERS OF THAT WORKING GROUP TO MAKE IT A FUNCTIONAL WORKING GROUP.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS SINCE LEARNING FROM LEGAL REGARDING THE BYLAWS THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO.
BUT WE DO NEED THAT DELIBERATIVE EFFORT.
AND SO I WOULD MOTION TO, UH, PUSH THIS TOPIC TO NEXT MONTH WHERE I'LL GIVE YOU MORE FIDELITY ON MY PLAN PROPOSAL.
BUT, UM, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I CAN TELL YOU AT THIS TIME.
IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO PUT, ADD THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM TO, I'M MAKING A NOTE HERE TO ADD THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM.
AND IF, WHEN AT THE END OF THE MEETING WE GO THROUGH THIS, OR IF YOU REMIND ME, BUT I'M MAKING MY NOTE TO MYSELF BECAUSE I, WE'VE LOST TRACK OF THAT.
TO PUT THIS AS AN ACTION ITEM.
AND BY, BY THE WAY, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER PENA, UH, HAS SOME IDEAS ALREADY HAS SOME, SOME SUGGESTIONS.
SO I WANT, I WOULD BE ALSO ADDING TO THAT ACTION TO ADD HER TO THE WORKING GROUP.
YEAH, MORE COLLABORATION THE BETTER.
BUT, WE'LL, WE'LL PUT THAT THE NEXT, THAT IN A ACTION ITEMS FOR NEXT, UH, NOVEMBER MEETING.
[6. Discussion of Case Review Working Group (Commissioners Flood and Cortez-Franco) progress.]
DISCUSSION OF CASE REVIEW WORKING GROUP COMMISSIONER, FLOOD AND CORTEZ.I FOR THE COMMISSIONER CORTEZ BECAUSE SHE'S SMARTER.
SO WE WERE ABLE, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND WE SPENT, UH, QUITE A FEW HOURS STARTING TO TRIAGE SOME OF THESE CASES.
THEY WERE ABOUT, I THINK WE WERE GIVEN ABOUT 90 OR SO CASE SUMMARIES.
OUT OF THOSE, WE GOT I THINK, SUMMARY REVIEWS, WHICH WAS JUST MAYBE A PARAGRAPH OR TWO, SOMEWHERE A LITTLE LENGTHIER DEPENDING ON THE CASE.
AND SO WE STARTED TRIAGING THOSE.
IT IT TOOK US SEVERAL HOURS TO GET HALFWAY THROUGH.
AND SO WE STARTED CREATING A SYSTEM OF, IF IT'S TIME SENSITIVE, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN ALREADY SINCE THIS CASE WAS SUBMITTED? IS IT NEWLY APPOINTED? WE LOOKED AT THE SEVERITY OF
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THE, THE, THE CASE, UH, BASED ON MULTIPLE FACTORS.AND WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, A LIVE EXCEL SHEET THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO FIGURE OUT, WE TALLYING UP SOME OF THESE POINTS, FIGURE OUT IS THERE PUBLIC CONCERN, IS THERE INTEREST? IS IT ABOUT TO EXPIRE? IS IT JUST RECENT? AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PICKING UP AS WE ARE REVIEWING SOME OF THE CASES, SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT ARE REOCCURRING.
AND SO WE'RE JUST STARTING OUT.
WE ARE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH WITH THE NUGGET, GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST OF CASES.
UH, WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM, UM, OPO, WHICH IS AN AMAZING LIST IN KIND OF SEPARATED.
AND SO I KNOW COMMISSIONER CARLOS GAVE US, UM, HELPED US OUT IN GIVEN US SOME OF THOSE THAT OUR CHEAT SHEET TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THESE CODES MEAN AND, AND ALL THE ABBREVIATIONS TO HELP US GET THROUGH, UM, SOME OF THOSE CASES.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH.
UH, WE DO FULLY EXPECT AND WE, WE HAVE IDENTIFY SOME, WHAT WE CALL OUR FIVE POINT VALUE CASES, WHICH ARE THE MOST, UH, MOST IMPORTANT, MORE RELEVANT, THE ONE OR TWO, THEY'RE EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT.
BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE OTHER FACTORS, WE WANT TO ADDRESS THIS SET OF FIVE FOURS AND THREE CASES.
AND ALL OF THIS WILL BE MADE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AS YOU KNOW, HOW WE ITEMIZE THE, THE CASES ONCE WE GET SITUATED AND WE ACTUALLY FINALIZE THE FULL LIST AGAIN, WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH FROM THAT.
WE ARE THINKING AS WE HAVE AT LEAST RIGHT NOW PRESENT SIX FULLY ACTIVE MEMBERS.
WE DO HAVE 11 COMMISSIONERS FOR THE FIRST TWO GROUPS TO PERHAPS ONE GROUP DEAL WITH THE HIGH PRIORITY CASES ARE FIVE FOURS AND THREES.
AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER GROUP START WORKING FROM WHAT WE CALL THE BACK.
SO WE KINDA MEET FORWARD FOR THE CASES THAT ARE ABOUT TO EXPIRE OR RATHER HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY'RE STILL UNDER A REVIEW.
UM, OR AGAIN, WE HAVE CASES FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T YET GOTTEN A CHANCE TO LOOK AT.
SO SOME OF THOSE WILL BE PART OF THE FIVE FOURS.
AND AGAIN, SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO GROUPS RIGHT NOW, UH, UNTIL AT LEAST WE FINALIZE LOOKING AT THE REST OF THE SUMMARY CASES.
AND JUST TO LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW FROM ABOUT 30 CASES THAT WE REVIEWED, WHAT WE DO IS, UH, COMMISSIONER FLOOD AND I WOULD GET TOGETHER, WE READ THROUGH THE SUMMARIES, WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY POINTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW ARE WE PRIORITIZING THESE CASES.
MOST OF THE TIME WE AGREE, SOMETIMES WE DISAGREE.
WE FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY? HMM, MAYBE WE CAN NUDGE A LITTLE BIT TO A THREE.
WE CAN NUDGE A LITTLE BIT TO A FOUR, MAYBE IT'S A TWO.
UH, BUT THIS IS OUR FIRST PASS.
I IMAGINE AFTER WE GET THROUGH ALL OF THE CASES AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME OF THESE RECURRENT PATTERNS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO A CHANCE TO LOOK BACK AND FIGURE OUT, OKAY, NOW THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE ACTIVELY DEALING WITH, WE CAN GO BACK AND REALLY TALLY UP THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE CASES SO THAT WE CAN LATER PASS ON TO THE CASE REVIEW GROUPS.
AND TO THAT POINT, UM, TO TAKE A QUOTE FROM THE MOVIE CASABLANCA, THERE IS GAMBLING IN THIS HOUSE.
UM, WE DID FIND SOME THINGS THAT, UH, WE EXPECTED TO FIND AND THERE'S, UH, SOME PATTERNS AND PRACTICES THAT WE WILL HIGHLIGHT.
UM, THERE'S SOME CASES THAT WE CAN, WE DON'T EVEN LIKE HAVE A ROLODEX GOING, BUT WE JUST, MAN, WE JUST SAW THIS OFFICER'S NAME FOUR OTHER TIMES.
SO, UM, WE ARE PICKING UP ON ALL OF THOSE ALSO.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO TIE NOT JUST THAT ONE CASE THAT MAYBE IS A ONE, BUT ALSO THAT CASE THAT IS MAYBE A FIVE TO THE SAME OFFICER SO THAT IT CAN BE FURTHER INVESTIGATED AND WE CAN ENSURE THAT THERE'S TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
AND, UM, LAURA'S DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB.
I THINK WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET MONDAY, BUT IT WAS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE'S DAY, SO I DID INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ACTIVITIES.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA RESUME ON MONDAY AND IT'S REALLY A REALLY INTENTIONAL AND DELIBERATE PROCESS, AND WE'D LIKE TO MAKE EVERYTHING APPLY, BUT IF EVERYTHING'S A PRIORITY, NOTHING'S A PRIORITY.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BE INTENTIONAL ON WHAT WE DO.
AND, UM, THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC IS ONE OF THE WEIGHING FACTORS.
SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BALANCE, UM, CITIZENS' COMPLAINTS WITH TIME AND URGENCY.
AND SO THANK YOU ALL FOR TRUSTING US IN THIS PROCESS.
I WANNA MAKE A, A FEW COMMENTS JUST TO UPDATE SOME OF THE NEW, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
BASICALLY THE PROCESSES THAT WE, UH, HAD A, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE, OF THE GROUP, BUT THE WORKING GROUP TO DO THE TRIAGING, AND THAT IS THE COMMISSIONER, UH, CORTES FRANCO AND, AND FLOOD.
AND THEN THE IDEA OF THE OTHERS WOULD BE SEPARATED IN SMALLER WORKING GROUP CASE WORKING GROUPS WHERE WE GO TO AND LOOK AT, ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE CASES, MAKE DECISIONS AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY, ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL BRING EVERYTHING TO THE, THE BIGGER FORUM.
WE HAVE TO DECIDE TO DO THAT PERIODICALLY.
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YOU, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WENT, YOU GOT, YOU WERE IN A WORKING GROUP AND YOU WERE REVIEWED A COUPLE OF CASES, YOU GUYS WOULD BE ADVOCATE AND SAY, WE SAW THIS, WE BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE.THE, THE EXISTING, UH, RULING IS FINE, MOVE ON.
BUT THESE, WE WANT TO, TO FOCUS ON WHAT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ET CETERA.
I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE STAFF LIAISON WHERE I, I DISTRIBUTE AND TOLD WHERE I, WHAT WORKING GROUP EACH COMMISSIONER WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON.
AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.
AS YOU COME ON, WE'LL BE ADDING YOU TO THE, UH, TO THE WORKING GROUP.
I STILL, I STILL THINK WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, IN, UH, SINCE BY LAW YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE COMPLETED YOUR TRAINING TO ALREADY START PARTICIPATING.
I'M INCLINED TO PROBABLY ADD YOU, BUT YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA GET LIKE A BAPTISM BY FIRE THROWN INTO THE THING WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE, THE DETAILS.
BUT I'M TRUSTING THAT THE REST, THE OTHER, WE COULD LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND THE OTHER MEMBERS OF YOUR WORKING GROUP WOULD, COULD HELP YOU.
BUT UH, SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE CHANCE, WE'LL ASSIGN YOU TO THE WORKING GROUP.
SO YOU'LL, YOU'RE GONNA GET REALLY, UH, UM, STARTED QUICKLY.
AND, UM, ONE OTHER LAST THING I'LL MENTION ABOUT THAT I AM NOT UNDER WORKING GROUP, BUT SINCE WE HAD THE CASES, I FREELY DECIDE TO GO ON MYSELF AND LOOK AND SEE HOW WOULD I BE DOING THAT TRIUNE AND HOW MUCH WORK IT, IT, IT INVOLVED BECAUSE I, I DID ASK COMMISSIONER FLO AND COR, THAT'S A CA TRACK OF HOW MUCH TIME THIS TAKES.
'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS OR WHATEVER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE WORKING VERY HARD BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO GO THROUGH, READ THESE THINGS, AND THEN MAKE A DECISION IN A, IN AN EXPEDITED WAY.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF, OF CASES IN THERE.
SO I THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH AND THE REST OF YOU BE PREPARED.
WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I, I KNOW I'M NEW.
UM, AND PERHAPS THIS IS PART OF THE TRAINING, BUT ARE THERE CRITERIA SET UP FOR EACH OF THE LEVELS WHEN WE DO THE, WHEN YOU DO THE TRIAGE, YOU TALKED ABOUT FIVES AND THREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, WE, WE SET UP, WE SET UP METRICS AND, UH, WEIGHT AND GAVE WAITING, WEIGHING CRITERIA TO IT.
UM, BOTH, UH, COMMISSIONER FRANCO AND I ARE BOTH, UH, IO RESEARCH PSYCHOLOGIST, SO WE LOVE NUMBERS.
AND SO YEAH, WE REALLY GAVE, UM, DUE DILIGENCE TO CREATING A SYSTEM WHERE WE GAVE, UH, A WE THINK A PRETTY DECENT SCALE TO EACH METRIC SO THAT WE CAN MAKE DELIBERATE DECISIONS AND BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT WHY WE DID IT.
AND, AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF THE TRAINING OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD, ARE YOU GONNA SEND TO THE COMMISSIONERS SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDING GOING WE'LL? YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY.
UM, AND I'LL LET COMMISSIONER FRANCO, 'CAUSE SHE'S REALLY THE ONE INPUTTING ALL THE DATA.
I JUST REACHED UP, BUT SHE, UM, CAN SPEAK ON IT, BUT, WE'LL, I THINK SHE ALREADY CREATED A KEY TO TELL YOU, LIKE, THIS IS A ONE, THIS IS TWO, THIS IS, AND THIS IS, WHY IS THAT? I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I SAW ON THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET, BUT UM, SHE CAN SPEAK FOR HERSELF.
SO SINCE JUST A REMINDER FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSION.
SO WE ARE STARTING FROM SCRATCH, FROM ZERO, NOTHING.
I TOOK US UP UNTIL JUST LAST MONTH, 30 DAYS AGO FOR US TO GET ACTUAL CASE SUMMARIES TO REVIEW.
UM, AND WE CAN LOOK BACK AT THE DATES AND WHEN WE WERE APPOINTED AND EVERYTHING WORKING AND SO ON AND SO, SO FORTH.
WE JUST GOT ACCESS TO THESE CASE LISTS AND ACTUAL SUMMARIES.
AND SO FORTUNATELY WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WITH BACKGROUNDS, WITH RESEARCH, WITH DATA, MYSELF AND INDUSTRIAL PSYCHOLOGISTS, THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THESE SUMMARIES AND HELP START ITEMIZE SOME OF THIS.
AND SO PART OF WHAT WE STARTED DOING THAT IS BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, HEY, THIS IS HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE CASES TO FIGURE OUT WHY IS THIS A PRIORITY? WHY IS THIS 1 0 1, WHY IS THIS ONE A FOUR? AND SO, BUT THIS IS THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING WORK OF HOW WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THESE CASES.
WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH AS WE FINISH THROUGH THE OTHER 30, 35 SUMMARIES, WE'RE LIKELY GONNA GO BACK AGAIN AND SAY, OKAY, THIS NUMBER SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TWO.
THIS ONE, WE CAN LOOK AT A FOUR BASED ON THE REST OF THE CASES.
BUT THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME WE'VE REVIEWED THEM.
VERY FIRST TIME WE'VE LOOKED AT HOW TO ITEMIZE, THIS IS JUST COMMISSIONER LED, THIS IS ALL OF THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IS GONNA BE FROM US AND BY US.
UH, WHICH IS WHY WE RELY ON EACH OTHER FOR EXPERTISE.
EVERYONE HERE HAS A VERY SPECIFIC, VERY NEAT, UM, EXPERTISE AND BACKGROUND THAT CAN REALLY GIVE A LOT TO THE GROUP.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS IN HELPING US, UH, GO THROUGH THAT.
I THINK AT THE END, OR AS WE CONTINUE YOUR, YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMISSION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIGN UP FOR SOME OF THESE WORKING GROUPS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME WE'RE JUST, WE'RE DOING THIS AS WE GO.
BUT WE DID HAVE IN MIND THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING, IS GOING TO WANNA KNOW WHY IS THIS ONE OF FIVE? WHY DID THAT ONE, WHO'S MY SIBLING, WHO'S A, WHO'S SOMEONE THAT I KNOW A THREE INSTEAD OF THIS? AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD
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TO, TO ITEMIZE AND LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO DO IT.INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT, AND, AND BY THE TIME YOU LOOK, YOU REVIEW THE CASES, THE, THE COMMISSION REVIEW WORKING GROUP, I HAD TO LOOK AT THE NAME FROM OUR EXPERIENCE WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
WHEN WE HAD THOSE TWO SAMPLE CASES OR REVIEW CASES, IT TOOK US A COUPLE OF HOURS, COUPLE OF HOURS ON EACH CASE TO REVIEW THE DOZENS OF FILES, DOZENS OF VIDEO FOOTAGES, DOZEN OF DOCUMENTS.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR TWO SAMPLE CASES.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS JUST SUMMARIES.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT THE JUDGES, WE'RE NOT THE LAW, WE'RE NOT THE ENFORCERS.
WE'RE JUST EXCLUSIVELY LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY ON THESE ALLEGATIONS OF THE SUMMARIES, LOOKING AT THE DATA, COMPILING IT.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING AS THOSE COMMISSIONER REVIEW GROUPS IS LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL REVIEW, THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATION.
SO WE CAN REVIEW HOW THEY DID IT.
AND THEN TWO PART OF THAT IS WE CAN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THE SECOND PART IS WE CAN LOOK AT HOW THE REVIEW WAS DONE.
WAS THERE A GAP? WELL, YOU KNOW, WHY DID THIS ONE TAKE FIVE DAYS? WHY DID THAT ONE TAKE THREE MONTHS? WHY IS THAT ONE STILL IN THE BACK BURNER FOR FIVE MONTHS? SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO AS A COMMISSION, BUT THIS IS THE VERY TRUST, TRUST ME, WE WE'RE ALL WANTING TO, TO WORK ON THIS, BUT THIS IS THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF IT AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE PROCESS.
I WOULD LIKE, LIKE I WISH THE JUSTIFICATION WAS LIKE, WELL, IT WAS ON FOX NEWS OR IT WAS ON INSTAGRAM, THAT'S WHY WE PICKED IT.
BUT NO, WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE REALLY DELIBERATE AND WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO BE INTENTIONAL AND TRANSPARENT AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT THANK YOU FOR ASKING COMMISSIONER PENA, I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
IS THERE GONNA BE ANY PRIORITIZATION FOR THE ONES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GOING VIRAL, JUST LIKE THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND, THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CALM THE COMMUNITY DOWN.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THE BACKLOG AND OTHER THINGS HAPPEN, MAYBE WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THE ONES THAT ARE HAPPENING NOW ONCE WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP AND READY TO GO AHEAD AND START WORKING ON THEM.
UM, LITERALLY IN REAL TIME, ONE HOUR AFTER THAT VIDEO WAS RELEASED ON INSTAGRAM, I SENT IT TO COMMISSIONER GREAVES AND UH, TO COMMISSIONER FRANCO, AND I SAID, WE ARE GONNA, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
AND SO WE ARE ALREADY AWARE OF IT, AND WE WILL DEFINITELY, I DON'T EVEN THINK INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAS ACTUALLY BEGUN THEIR ACTUAL REVIEW YET, BUT WE ALREADY LIKE ARE ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
UM, SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING, BUT I'LL LET COMMISSIONER FRANCO SPEAK, FRANK.
AND SO, AND PART OF THAT, AND AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR TRAINING, WE DON'T DO THE INVESTIGATION.
SO WHEN THE PUBLIC SEES SOMETHING, THERE HAS TO BE A REPORT DONE WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
IT, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEN THEY DO THEIR, THEIR INVESTIGATION.
IT GOES TO OPO AT THE SAME TIME IT GOES OVER TO US.
SO IT COULD BE, IF INTERNAL AFFAIRS TAKES A WEEK, WE'LL START GETTING THE SUMMARY.
WE'LL TRY IT, WE WILL SEPARATE IT INTO THOSE, INTO THE CASES.
THERE'S CASES FROM THE 90, ABOUT 30 OF 'EM THAT WE DON'T HAVE YET SUMMARIES BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION.
SO THIS IS EXCLUSIVELY WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS AT THE PACE THAT THEY'RE WORKING, HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.
AND, AND I ACTUALLY COMMUNICATED THIS WITH COMMISSIONER FLOOD AND COMM AND COMMISSIONER, UH, CARLOS, THAT THE ONLY THING WE'RE ABLE TO SAY ON THAT CASE IS THAT IT'S UNDER OUR RADAR.
AS SOON AS WE GET IT FROM INTERNAL AFFAIRS WITH OPO, IT'S GONNA COME TO US.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
IF IT'S A, A CASE WITH EXTREMELY PUBLIC INTEREST, THE PUBLIC WANTS ANSWERS.
I SAW THE COMMENTS, I SAW THOSE VIDEOS, UH, THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL I GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO THAT MEANS SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE THAT FORMAL COMPLAINT, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND EVENTUALLY LEAD TO US SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE INVESTIGATION, HOW THEY DID IT, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION NEED TO BE BASED ON.
UM, AND WE, WE DO HAVE THE SETUP IN OUR, IN OUR WORKING GROUPS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT IF TWO, IF ONE WORKING, UM, I WAS, FORGET THE NAME, THE ONE COMMISSION REVIEW GROUP, SAY TWO OUT OF THREE SAY YES OR NO ON WHATEVER THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS.
THERE'S A SYSTEMS TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WELL THEN THAT MEANS THE OTHER GROUP IS ALSO GONNA REVIEW IT SO THAT WE CAN A CONSENSUS TO FIGURE OUT, YES, THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE, OR NO, THIS CAN'T BE DONE.
SO THIS IS WHY WE SPLIT UP INTO AT LEAST GROUPS OF THREE.
UH, AND THERE'S A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO COME INTO A CONCLUSION? UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS YET.
WE HAVE IT IN THEORY, WE HAVE IT IN OUR BYLAWS, WE HAVE IT IN OUR WORKING GROUPS.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET.
AND TO THAT POINT, UM, WE HAVE LEARNED, AND I THINK OPO EXPERIENCES THIS TOO, WHEN CASES ARE REALLY HIGH PROFILE INTERNAL AFFAIRS ADJUDICATES THOSE CASES LIKE QUICKER THAN WE CAN EVEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AND WE ARE AWARE OF THAT TOO.
AND SO I ASKED HIM, UM, ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WITH THEM A FEW WEEKS AGO.
BUT, UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE AWARE OF AND WE WILL PUSH
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TO GET THOSE, UH, REVIEWED QUICKLY AND GET OUR RECOMMENDATIONS UP QUICKLY.BECAUSE SOME, SOME CASES LINGER FOR ALMOST A YEAR, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE HIGH PRIORITY CASES, UM, ARE ADJUDICATED, UM, RATHER QUICKLY.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO KNOW, YOU ARE SAYING THAT WE CANNOT REVIEW CASES UNLESS SOMEONE ACTUALLY FILES A REPORT OR BRINGS IT TO ATTENTION THEN, CORRECT.
SO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT INVESTIGATORS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE A COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION, WE REVIEW THE INVESTIGATIONS.
AND SO THIS IS WHY WE URGE THE PUBLIC SAY SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, FILE THOSE REPORTS.
THAT'S HOW THERE'S A DOCUMENTED PROCESS FOR, OKAY, INTERNAL AFFAIRS WAS THEIR THING, WHATEVER THE RESULTS ARE, IT GOES TO OP BECAUSE THERE'S A, AN INVESTIGATION.
THEREFORE, IT EVENTUALLY ALSO COMES TO US AS A COMMUNITY WITH NO POLICE BACKGROUND, NO LEGAL BACKGROUND, I'M SORRY, NO POLICE BACKGROUND, MILITARY BACKGROUND, AND, AND THAT SORT THEN WE'RE ABLE TO COME IN WITH A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE OF, HMM, WE, WE THINK THIS, WE THINK THAT HERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO UNLESS THERE IS AN ACTUAL INVESTIGATION, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS LOOKING AT CASES.
RIGHT? WE HAVE OTHER FUNCTIONS, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
AND WE WILL KEEP REPEATING THIS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT'S A, A CASE OF CONFUSION.
FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE, BUT ONCE AGAIN, PART OF OUR OBLIGATION IS TO TRY TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE OF USE THE RESOURCES AND A PO YOU KNOW, FILE COMPLAINTS.
IT'S BEST FOR US TO BE REVIEWING AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON A CASE THAT'S ACTING KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DATA DRIVEN AND SO FORTH.
IT STRENGTHENS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THOSE TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY START LOOKING AT THEM.
SO I APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR MY IGNORANCE, BUT HOW ARE THE RESULTS OF THIS COMMISSION AVAILABLE OR COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC? OR IS IT ON REQUEST? OR IS THERE A SITE OR, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I I MAY BE JUST IGNORANT 'CAUSE I'M JUST JUMPING IN RIGHT NOW.
SO THOSE ARE VERY GOOD, UH, GOOD QUESTIONS.
AND, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY, SO, SO, BUT THE, THE, THE IDEA IS WE ARE OUR OBLIGATIONS TO ACTUALLY MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO A PD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO OPO, WHAT WE BELIEVE, UH, THAT THOSE CASES SHOULD BE THE, THE SORT OF WHETHER THE CASES WERE INAPPROPRIATELY REVIEWED OR NOT.
AND IN THE CASE OF REVIEW WHAT WE THINK THE PUNISHMENT OR WHATEVER IT SHOULD BE, OR WE, OR WHETHER WE AGREE, UH, ON, ON THIS POSITION, RIGHT.
UH, THE EXPECTATION FROM MANY OF US IS THAT, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL GO AND BE CONSIDERED.
BUT OUR, AND THIS, ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT THIS, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AS COMMISSIONER GRAVES NOT AS CHAIR, IS THAT OUR POWER ENDS THERE.
WE MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE CAN GO TO YOU, BUT WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT THERE, THE LOOK, WE HAVE THE, THE, UH, EXPECTATION THAT THE POLICE CHIEF WOULD WAIT FOR THE VIEW OF A PO AND OR THE CPRC BEFORE THESE OFFICIAL, UH, THINGS ARE, ARE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER, IT'S, IT'S DOCUMENTED BY CODE.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE HOW TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS ALSO SO THAT THE POWER, THE LITTLE POWER WE HAVE IN RECOMMENDATIONS GET THERE IN TIME BEFORE A RULING IS MADE PUBLIC.
THE, THE COMMUNITY CANNOT SEE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT'S PURELY BETWEEN THIS COMMISSION AND OPO.
I'M SORRY IF I MEAN OH NO, I'M SORRY IF I DID NOT UNDERSTAND.
NO, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PUBLIC.
WE ARE GOING TO BE LETTING THE, THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT.
AND IF WE, FOR INSTANCE, ARE NOT BEING LISTENED, THAT'S PART OF OUR OBLIGATION TO MAKE THAT BE CLEAR ALSO.
SO YES, THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO SEE RECOMME.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A WEBSITE AND EVERYTHING.
AND, AND RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PUBLISHED.
FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT COMING IN LIKE, OH MY GOSH, SO MANY MOVING PARTS, THE BYLAWS, THE WORKING GROUPS, ALL SO ON AND SO FORTH.
ALL OF OUR ITEMS, ALL OF RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL OF THE VIDEOS, ALL OF THE MINUTES ARE POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC.
ANYONE CAN GO IN THERE, SEE THAT.
UH, RIGHT NOW, LIKE CARLOS MENTIONED, WE HAVEN'T REALLY MADE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET.
WE DO HAVE, AND I'M GONNA LEAN OUR LIAISONS HERE.
I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A YEARLY REPORT DUE AS A COMMISSION.
I'M NOT, I THINK THAT'S COMING UP.
SO WE DO, WE WILL HAVE A YEARLY REPORT, BUT JUST AS, AS YOUR, YOUR BEGINNING, WE ARE STILL GETTING STARTED AND IT'S TAKEN US THIS LONG TO WORK.
ALL OF THE LITTLE DETAILS, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE.
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UM, UH, MEETINGS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE TRYING TO GET STARTED.UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMUNICATION ISSUES, BUT EVERYTHING IS ABSOLUTELY MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO HOST, UM, EVENTS, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO IT, IF THERE IS A BIG CASE, IF WE WANNA SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO.
AND WE, WE RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT THAT IN ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
SO THERE IS MORE ROOM FOR US TO BE MORE PUBLIC FACING IN LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, BUT YEAH, EVERYTHING IS AVAILABLE, AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC.
UM, ONE LAST THING I'LL MENTION, I THINK, UM, ONE SUGGESTION TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS IS GO BACK, YOU KNOW, ON A WEBSITE AND DOWNLOAD SOME OF THE BACKGROUND.
'CAUSE SOME OF THOSE BACKGROUNDS MAY HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU TO BOOTSTRAP YOURSELF.
BUT, UH, ONE THING THAT YOU'LL FIND OUT IS IN THE, THE PLAN THAT COMMISSIONER FLOYD AND, AND CORTES VANCO SET UP, EACH ONE OF US WOULD HAVE CHANCES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DIFFERENT GROUPS.
SO YOU GET THEM TO WORK WITH OTHER GROUPS, AND PLUS YOU GET A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRIAGE AGENT TOO.
SO YOU EVENTUALLY WILL GET A CHANCE TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY DIFFERENT ONE OF IT.
SO IT'S NO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SEE THINGS DONE BY THE PRESENT TRIAGING GROUP, YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO ACT ON THAT TOO, AS, AS WE GET.
BUT YOU SAID WE'RE TRYING TO GET, UH, GET STARTED.
GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WORK GROUP, THE PRIORITIZATION AND THE TRIAGE TODAY, COMMISSIONER FRANKL AND FLOOD AS THE, I GUESS THE ACTIVE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS ON THAT, WE SENT YOU GUYS SOME EMAILS OF CASES THAT HAVE GONE TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, AT LEAST FROM OP APOS PERSPECTIVE, THAT HAVE SHORT TIME PERIODS FOR REVIEW MM-HMM
UH, SO IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION, I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE FROM US IS ON A REGULAR BASIS IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR TRANSFER TO YOU ON A REAL TIME BASIS, THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'D LIKE TO USE TO NOTIFY YOU, HEY, WE HAVE RECEIVED THESE CASES, THEY'VE GONE TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
WE WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THESE SPECIFIC CASES.
WE WANT TO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT WE BELIEVE ARE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF CRITICAL INCIDENT AND OR SERIOUS OFFENSE.
SO THAT'LL MAYBE HELP YOU PRIORITIZE WHAT YOU NEED TO REVIEW IN THAT SHORTER TIME PERIOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MASTERS.
I, I SAW THE EMAIL, I GAVE YOU A THUMBS UP, BUT I WAS LIKE, WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS
AND IF YOU CAN CONTINUE COMMUNICATING WITH US IN THAT WAY, SENDING THOSE, THOSE TYPE OF CASES, THAT WILL HELP US SO MUCH.
MR. MASTERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO I KNOW WE HAVE FEW, FEW MINUTES.
I THINK I'M GONNA, UH, PASS SKIP SEVEN.
UM, I THINK WE'LL BE DONE IN, UH, CHAIR, CHAIR.
WE WILL HAVE QUORUM EVEN IF, UM, IF COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER FLOOD, SO THAT'S TRUE TOO.
YEAH, WE SHOULD, THE PASS JUST JOINED US, SO, BUT I, I WANT COMMISSIONER FLOOD TO HAVE A CHANCE.
THE, THE, THE CHAIRMAN, HE'S BEEN AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN SOME OF THIS AND SOME OF THE STUFF I HAVE TO PRESENT IT WITH.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, I WANT TO, I'M GONNA SKIP SEVEN FOR NOW AND I WANNA DISCUSS EIGHT.
[8. Discussion of commission online message board.]
WE WANNA DISCUSS, UM, DISCUSSION AND COMMISSION ONLINE MESSAGE BOARD.'CAUSE I THINK I KNOW SEVEN'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
SO, UM, BASICALLY I KNOW, UM, COMMISSIONER HARRIS HAS BEEN A CHAMPION OF THIS AND MAYBE YOU GIVE A LITTLE, MAYBE A LITTLE BRIEFING OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
SO THE, UM, ONLINE MESSAGE BOARD IS A MODEL THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT CITY COUNCIL USES.
UH, THE TEXAS LEG LEGISLATURE RECENTLY PASSED A NEW LAW THAT ALLOWS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ON CITIES TO USE THAT MODEL.
UM, AND BASICALLY, UH, WE, I THINK IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT, WE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN ASKING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND, UH, I IMAGINE THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER BACKGROUND PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO DO, UM, SO THAT, UH, WE CAN, WE CAN'T DEL WE CAN'T DELIB, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? WE CAN DELIBERATE, WE CAN TALK, BUT WE CANNOT VOTE ON THINGS.
SO, AND I THINK IT IS PUBLIC FACING, SO ANYTHING SENSITIVE, POLICE RELATED, BE MINDFUL.
IT'S A PUBLIC, IT'S AN ONLINE MESSAGE BOARD.
SO, UM, SO MY THOUGHT IS IT WOULD HELP US COMMUNICATE AND IT'S ALSO TRANSPARENT.
THE PUBLIC'S ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING INSTEAD OF, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT OUR, OUR MEETINGS.
AND I, I THINK A LOT OF IT IS JUST COMMUNICATION, US BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE IN OPEN FORM AND MEETING TOMA.
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YEAH.AND, AND FOR, FOR THE REST OF YOU IN PUBLIC, WE, THIS HAD BEEN HEAVILY RESEARCHED BY SOME TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, LEGAL.
SO WE, BUT WE, WE BELIEVE WE'LL BE SOME OTHER FIRST TO BE TRYING TO EXERCISE THIS.
UM, BUT WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS, UM, I, I'M HOPING TO MAYBE MAKE THIS A ACTION ITEM FOR NEXT, UH, NEXT MEETING.
UH, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY REPORT A DRAFT.
WILL YOU, WERE YOU THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THE DRAFT? YEAH, I CAN PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATION, UH, DRAFT AND EVERYONE CAN LOOK AT IT AND, PERFECT.
WE, SO YEAH, SO I'LL, I'M MAKING A NOTE AGAIN ONCE TO ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK AND ACTIONS TO TRY TO, TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN, DISCUSS THE DRAFT AND THEN ALSO, UM, UH, TRY TO PUSH IT BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT IN THE HANDS OF A CITY.
SO YEAR NA, THEY MAKE THAT DECISION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WELL, UM, IF ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING ITEM EIGHT, THEN I AM GOING TO, IT'S, IT'S 4:00 PM I'M GONNA CALL A RECESS MEETING UNTIL FOUR.
WHAT TIME DO YOU NEED? UH, THE FLOOD, FOUR 30, UH, UH, 4 34, 4 15.
SO I'LL SAY, SAY, WE'LL SAY IT'S A FOUR 20, SO WE'LL BE BREAKING FOR 20 MINUTES.
UM, OCTOBER, UM, 17, 20 25 CPRC, UM, COMMISSION MEETING.
[7. Discussion of commission Internal Operating Procedures.]
WAS AN AGENDA, WAS THE DISCUSSION OF COMMISSION, INTERNAL OPERATION PROCEDURES, UH, CPRC, INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURES.AND, UM, LEMME SEE IF I CAN ORGANIZE THIS, GIVE YOU SOME, UM, I WANT TO STOP BY GIVING SOME TIMELINE ON HOW THIS CAME ABOUT, PURPOSES, ET CETERA.
IN LAST, IN OUR LAST SEPTEMBER CPOC MEETING.
AT THE END, WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, I PROPOSED THAT I WOULD TRY TO HAVE A DRAFT FOR INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURES.
AND PART PART OF THE REASON WAS THAT AS A NEW GROUP, WE WERE HAVING A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES IN GETTING THINGS STARTED AND SO FORTH.
AND EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS, YEAH, WE'LL FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULE OF ORDER, IT'S A LITTLE NICE TO HAVE, I'M ONE OF THOSE THAT BELIEVES, YOU KNOW, LIKE A CHEAT SHEET OR SOMETHING TO HELP US GO STARTED.
AND WHAT I HAD DONE BEFORE, THIS IS NINE 19 NOW, BEFORE THAT I HAD ACTUALLY GONE AND LOOKED AT OTHER ALL CITY OF AUSTIN COMMISSIONS AND SEE HOW THEY'RE OPERATING BECAUSE I SUSPECT THAT THEY MAY HAVE SOME OF THE SAME PROBLEMS AND THEY HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS.
WHY REINVENT THE WHEEL? SO AMONG SOME OF THOSE, I LOOKED AT THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY SAFETY COMMISSION AND SAW THEY HAD ONE, AND I LOOKED AT THEIRS IN DETAIL AND DECIDE TO MODEL R'S FROM THERE.
OKAY, SO ON SEPTEMBER 27TH, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET WITH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THE AUSTIN POLICE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION.
AND THIS PERSON WAS, WENT THROUGH VERY NICELY, WENT THROUGH AND THEIR, UM, OPERATING PROCEDURE LINE BY LINE, EXPLAINED TO ME THINGS THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, WHAT THEY'RE FOR AND SO FORTH.
THEY ALSO POINTED OUT THAT THEIRS IS, UH, DATED 2016, UM, MARCH 7TH, 2016.
SO IT'S VERY OLD, AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT MAY NOT, NOT APPLICABLE, BUT IN GENERAL, THEY FUNCTION FAIRLY WELL.
SO, UM, AFTER HAVING THE BENEFIT OF THIS PERSON DEDICATING IT SEVERAL HOURS, EXPLAINING TO ME THE THINGS THAT WORK, THINGS THAT DIDN'T WORK, ET CETERA, AND ALSO SETTING A SETTING, THE, WHAT I WANT TO DO HERE TO SET THIS UP, LIKE THIS IS A TEMPLATE OF HOW WE SHOULD WORK.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, DON'T, IT HAS TO FOLLOW EXACTLY, BUT IT HOPEFULLY A FUNCTIONAL THING THAT WILL INCREASE OUR CHANCES OPERATION.
SO, UM, I, ON OCTOBER 8TH, AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GONNA UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE POSITIVE PROCESS, I TRIED TO, TO, UH, SHARE IT WITH A POTENTIAL SECOND.
ONE OF THE, THE REQUESTS FROM NOW WOULD BE, IF YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS WOULD BE AS YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION OR A PROPOSAL OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE BURDEN IS ON THE, ON YOU, YOU THE CHAMPION TO GO TRY TO FIND, TO GET A SECOND.
AND THE IDEA BEHIND THAT WAS THAT, HEY, IF YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ONE OTHER PERSON OF THE 11 THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, MAYBE IT'S NOT RIGHT.
SO YOU GET TO START SECOND PERSON WHO YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO ONE AND, AND, AND ONE ON ONE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM, AND THEN YOU HAVE A SECOND.
AND THE, THE, THE EXPECTATION THEN
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WOULD BE IN TRYING TO FOLLOW BEST PRACTICES OF TOMA, WHAT I READ ABOUT THE, THE WAY GROUPS WORK, ONE OF THOSE PRACTICES THAT COMMISSIONER, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO SEE, WILL HAVE STAFF LIAISON DISTRIBUTE THAT TO EVERYBODY ELSE.AND, UM, AND THERE'S SOME, SOME LIMITATIONS IS THAT DOESN'T GUARANTEE WITH A VIOLATION, BUT YOU WILL DO THINGS LIKE THIS IS JUST A DISTRIBUTION.
THERE'S NO, NO, NO PROCEEDING, NO, NO, UH, ARGUMENT, NO DEBATING.
THE DEBATE COULD COME TO LATER.
THE IDEA WAS THAT OCTOBER 10 WILL GIVE US A WEEK SO THAT SOME OF YOU WOULD HAVE THAT INITIAL DRAFT IN HAND SO THAT WHEN WE GOT TOGETHER TODAY, YOU WOULD HAVE SOME IDEAS AND YOU'LL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO ACT ON IT SO THAT YOU GET SOME FEEDBACK.
THE SAME THING WITH THAT, BY THE WAY, THIS DOCUMENT, IT DOES TWO THINGS.
YES, IT GIVE YOU A TEMPLATE, HOW TO RUN A MEETING, HOW TO PRESENT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT ALSO, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A, SOME, A SMALL LITTLE CONTRACT.
BUT THESE ARE THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE ALL HAVE FROM THE STAFF LIAISON.
THESE ARE EXPECTATIONS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU WILL HAVE FROM YOUR CHAIR THE EXPECTATIONS THAT EACH OF US AS A COMMISSIONER HAVE.
IT'S A LITTLE SMALL LITTLE CONTRACT.
AND SO, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE STAFF WAS, UH, EXPECTED TO, TO SEND SOME FEEDBACK.
AND SO TODAY I GOT FEEDBACK BACK FROM WHAT I INTERPRET AS THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY CLERK, AP A PO, AND THE, UH, LIAISON ON SOME PUSHBACK ALSO, UM, COMMISSIONER PENA WAS FORTUNATE TO HAVE, SHE GOT ON THIS MOR TODAY AND SHE WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS THERE, AND SHE ALSO MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT.
SO WHAT I PROPOSED TO DO, BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NEW TO YOU GUYS, I'M GOING TO, THIS IS ALREADY TIME HOW MUCH IT TAKE ME.
I WANT TO GO THROUGH AND READ THE ORIGINAL DRAFT SOME OF WHAT IS PROPOSED SO YOU GET A BIG PICTURE OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND THEN EXPLAIN THE, THE, THE, UH, REASONS FOR IT.
AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH AND DISCUSS THE PUSHBACK BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ARE, ARE, ARE VALID.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY, ONE OF MY PROBLEMS WAS AS A COMMISSIONER AND BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, THIS WAS DRAFTED AS CHAIR.
THIS WAS DRAFTED AS COMMISSIONER GRAVES SEEN PROBLEM THAT HE PERSONALLY HAD IN KEEPING TRACK OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROCEDURES AND WHERE THINGS WERE, AND LOOKING FOR A WAY TO, TO TRACK SOME OF THESE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE GOAL.
UM, SO, UM, SO THE FIRST ONE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PENDING AGENDA, AGENDA ITEMS, RIGHT? STAFF LIAISON.
AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE, UH, THIS IS, THIS DOCUMENT IS SET UP AT, UH, MEMBER RESPONSIBILITY.
SO YOU SEE STAFF LIAISON OR CHAIR OR COMMISSIONER, STAFF LIAISON INCLUDE A LIST OF PENDING AGENDA ITEMS IN BACK UP MATERIAL EACH MONTH.
OKAY? THERE, THERE'S SOME, SOME VALID PUSHBACK ON THAT.
COMMISSIONERS, WHEN REQUESTING THAT AN ITEM BE PLACED IN AN AGENDA, GIVE THE CHAIR STAFF LIAISON AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AS MUCH OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
WHY IS THE PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM IMPORTANT AND TIMELY? WHEN SHOULD THE PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM BE SET ON THE AGENDA? IS THE PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION OR ACTION OR BOTH? ARE YOU REQUESTING A PRESENTATION? IF YOU ARE REQUESTING A PRESENTATION, WHAT NON-CITY STAFF SPEAKER WOULD YOU INVITE? IF YOU WOULD LIKE A, UH, THE CHAIR AND STAFF LIAISON TO ARRANGE FOR A CITY STAFF SPEAKER? WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO YOU WANT THE PRESENTATION TO COVER? G DO YOU INTEND TO OFFER A RESOLUTION OR RECOMMENDATION ON THE TOPIC? H HAVE YOU SECURED A SECOND? AND I DO YOU INTEND TO PROPOSE THE FORMATION OF WORKING GROUPS ON THE SCOPE FOR ITEM THREE COMMISSIONERS? REQUEST AGENDA ITEMS AT THE MONTHLY MEETING OR BETWEEN MEETINGS BY EMAILING THE STAFF LIAISON AND THE CHAIR FROM YOUR CITY OF AUSTIN EMAIL.
SEND THE STAFF LIAISON ANY DOCUMENTS THAT YOU WANT IN DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSION.
OKAY, SO ALL ALL OF THAT IS JUST PENDING AGENDA ITEMS. THE NEXT SUBJECT HERE IS SETTING THE AGENDA.
NOW THE CHAIR CHAIR SCHEDULED TIME AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY MEETING TO REVIEW PREVIOUS MONTH'S AGENDA AND HEAR FOLLOW UPS FROM STAFF LIAISON ON QUESTIONS PENDING IN PREVIOUS MONTHS, MINUTES.
THERE'S BEEN SOME PUSHBACK IN THAT LAST SECOND PART.
OKAY, ITEM TWO OF THE SETTING AGENDA CHAIR.
SCHEDULED TIME AT END OF EVERY MEETING TO DISCUSS PENDING AGENDA ITEMS.
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UM, THREE CHAIR, ALLOCATE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSIONS FOR EACH AGENDA.ITEM FOUR, STAFF LIAISON CIRCULATE THE DRAFT AGENDA AND BACKUP MATERIALS.
AS SOON AS THEY ARE, THEY BECOME AVAILABLE TO FACILITATE BETTER PREPARATION BY COMMISSIONERS.
FIVE, STAFF LIAISON, ARRANGE OF THE CITY STAFF, SPEAKER, AND AGENDA ITEMS WHEN REQUESTED BY AT LEAST TWO COMMISSIONERS.
SO BASICALLY THE BURDEN, IF YOU WANT A SPEAKER, THE CITY STAFF, SPEAKER, THE STAFF AND LIAISON WILL HELP THAT.
BUT COMMISSIONER, IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR A NON-CITY STAFF SPEAKER, THAT'S ON YOU.
OKAY? SO THAT, THAT THE, THE, THE BURDEN OF SECURING A SPEAKER IS, IS SPLIT.
NOW THE LAST ONE, MONTHLY MEETINGS.
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE ATTEND, BE PREPARED AND ENGAGE COMMISSIONERS.
INFORM THE STAFF LIAISON AND CHAIR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WHEN YOU ARE, WHEN YOU CANNOT ATTEND.
STAFF LIAISON INCLUDE IN THE PREVIOUS MONTH'S, MINUTES, A SEPARATE SECTION LISTING COMMISSIONER'S REQUEST FOR FOLLOW UP INFORMATION FOR CITY STAFF.
AND THERE'S SOME VALID PUSHBACKS ON THAT ITEM THERE.
WHEN YOUR ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA, BE PREPARED TO GIVE A SHORT INTRODUCTION BEFORE THE, THE DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATIONS REGARDING WHAT YOU WANT ACCOMPLISHED AND WHY THE AGENDA ITEM IS IMPORTANT AND TIMELY.
BE THE CHAMPION OF YOUR AGENDA.
FIVE COMMISSIONERS, WHEN YOUR YOUR ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA, BE PREPARED TO HEAD A WORKING GROUP ON THAT MATTER, OR TAKE THE LEAD IN DRAFTING A RESOLUTION OR RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THAT MATTER.
COMMISSIONER, IN GENERAL, THE TRAJECTORY OF AN AGENDA ITEM WILL BE AS FOLLOWED, YOU KNOW, MONTH ONE, REQUEST THE ITEM BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
MONTH TWO, PRESENTATION DISCUSSIONS, DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS AND FORMATIONS OF WORKING GROUP, AND HOPEFULLY BY MONTH THREE, WORKING GROUPS PRESENT, DRAFT RESOLUTION AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMISSIONS.
PART OF THIS IS TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN STREAMLINE THAT IN SOME CASES, SEVEN COMMISSIONERS.
WHEN YOUR AGENDA ITEM RESULTS IN A RECOMMENDATION, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
YOU SHOULD CONSIDER YOUR ROLE NOT FULLY COMPLETED UNTIL THE CPRC HAS VERIFIED THAT THE RECOMMENDATION HAS RECEIVED HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY THE APPROPRIATE CITY OF AUSTIN, DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, MANAGER, COUNCIL COMMITTEE, ET CETERA.
RIGHT? YOUR JOB IS NOT DONE UNTIL YOU, WE, WE RECEIVE AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT'S THAT IT'S, IT'S BEEN RECEIVED.
AND THEN EIGHT, UM, STAFF LIAISON, THE COMMISSION NURSE THAT PROPOSED THE RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE COPIED ON EMAILS EXCHANGED REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION.
IF STAFF LIAISON NEEDS ANY ASSISTANCE, WE EXPECT THE COMMISSIONER THAT PROPOSED THE RECOMMENDATION TO HELP THEM.
AND WE SEE, UH, SOME PUSHBACK ON THAT.
THEN AT THE END, VERY, VERY SIMPLE.
THERE IS SOMETHING I CALLED AN AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST FORM.
IT'S SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP BEFORE.
IT'S AN EASY FORM THAT YOU JUST FILL OUT BEFORE YOU PROPOSE SOMETHING AND IT STARTS BY, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS IF YOU COME TO A MEETING AND YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT ON THE BACKUP, THEN YOU COULD JUST MAKE 15 COPIES AND BRING THEM.
AND SOME OF THAT, I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN TOO.
SO THE BEST WAY TO, TO, UH, TO GO THROUGH THIS LAST ONE IS I'M GONNA READ TO YOU WHAT MY AGENDA ITEM REQUEST FORM FOR THIS, UM, INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURE IS, RIGHT? SO WHY IS THE PROPOSAL AGENDA IMPORTANT AND TIMELY? I SAID, WELL, STANDARD OPERATION PROCEDURES, SOPS ARE DOCUMENTS THAT PROVIDE STANDARD GUIDES FOR TEAM MEMBERS TO COMPLETE A GIVEN TASK.
IT WILL SET THE EXPECTATION FOR COMMISSIONER, STAFF LIAISON AND CHAIR REGARDING HOW THE CPRC SHOULD OPERATE.
SOPS SHOULD HELP ACCELERATE THE PROCESS OF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL.
EXAMPLE, CONSISTENCY AND PRODUCTIVITY.
IT SHOULD HELP MINIMIZE VIOLATIONS OF STATE LAW AND CITY CODE, FOR INSTANCE, TOMA SAFETY, AND THEN HELP NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TEAM AND FOLLOW, UH, HELP NEW MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, LEARN AND FOLLOW PARLIAMENTARIAN, THE PARLIAMENTARIAN PROCESS IN OUR WORDS, KNOWLEDGE TRANSFER AND TRAINING.
OKAY, IF SOMEBODY, SOME OF YOU THAT JUST JOINING, IF THIS WAS IN PLACE, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO GO AND READ TO SEE THIS IS HOW THIS OPERATES.
TWO, WHEN SHOULD THE PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM BE SET ON THE AGENDA FROM MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY? AND I, I PROPOSE OCTOBER MEETING, OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IS A PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION OR ACTION OR BOTH? I SAID I HAD BOTH.
OR YOU'RE REQUESTING A PRESENTATION.
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HERE NO PRESENTATION REQUESTED.I AM ACTUALLY MAKING A PRESENTATION NOW, BUT, OKAY.
IF YOU ARE REQUESTING A REPRESENTATION, WHAT NON-CITY STAFF SPEAKER WOULD YOU INVITE? NON-APPLICABLE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THE CHAIR STAFF TO, TO ARRANGE CITY STAFF, SPEAKER, WHAT SPECIFIC, UH, DO YOU WANT? ONCE AGAIN, NON-APPLICABLE IN THIS CASE.
DO YOU INTEND TO OFFER RESOLUTION OR RECOMMENDATION ON A TOPIC? IF I ALREADY HAVE A, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A DRAFT RESOLUTION OR RECOMMENDATION, ATTACH IT TO THE FORM.
AND YES, I DO INTEND TO PRESENT A DRAFT.
AS YOU SEE, I JUST READ IT TO YOU.
HAVE YOU SECURED A SECOND? IN THIS CASE, A SECOND WAS REQUESTED, BUT AS TODAY, NOT YET SECURED.
UM, I, I DID HAVE THE SECOND SAY, THIS IS A FANTASTIC DOCUMENT, BUT, UM, THAT'S, IT WASN'T SECURE.
AND DO YOU INTEND TO PROPOSE THE FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP ON THIS TOPIC? AND MY INITIAL RESPONSE AT THE TIME WAS NO.
SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK, UH, ALL OF YOU HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT THIS WAS FOR.
AND, UH, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, I, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CASES IN WHICH WE HAVE HAD, UM, ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, COME BEFORE THE, THE COMMISSION, EITHER A SPEAKER PRESENTED AND, UH, ASK US TO MAYBE CONSIDER MAKING A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY OR WHATEVER.
AND I FELT THAT SOME OF THESE MAY FALL ON THE CRACK, AND I THOUGHT IF I WERE A, A COMMITTEE MEMBER, AND I DON'T KNOW, DID THEY JUST IGNORED IT OR ARE THEY CONSIDERING IT OR WHATEVER.
AND THERE'S NO, WE, WE SEEM NOT TO HAVE A WAY OF TRACKING SOME OF THIS.
AND A LOT THAT'S PART OF MOST OF THIS IS I WANT TO FIND A WAY OF TRACKING THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE A PLACE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THAT NOTHING FALLS IN A CRACK.
AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE BIG PICTURE ON, UM, WHERE THIS STANDS.
SO FOLLOWING THIS, WHAT I'D LIKE TO REACH IS THE, BECAUSE NONE OF YOU RECEIVED THIS TILL TODAY, THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE CPRC WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANCE AT THIS TO, TO MAYBE PUSH BACK OR HAD THAT CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT WE DID GET A RESPONSE FROM THE STAFF.
I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
AND OF COURSE, AND THEN I, I, UH, COMMISSIONER PEN TO GO AND GIVE US HER, HER, HER, UH, FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THOSE TOO.
SO ON THE FIRST PENDING AGENDA ITEMS WHERE I HAD REQUESTED INCLUDE A LIST OF PENDING AGENDA ITEMS IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL.
EACH MONTH, THE PUSHBACK IS ESTABLISHED.
THIS ESTABLISHES A NEW ADMINISTRATIVE TASK FOR THE LIAISON UNDER THE CITY CODE AND TRAINING.
PENDING OR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ARE TYPICALLY DISCUSSED VERBALLY DURING THE MEETINGS, NOT INCLUDING, NOT INCLUDED AS OFFICIAL BACKGROUND MATERIAL.
UH, DO YOU GUYS WANT A COMMENT? YEAH.
UH, REGARDING THIS ITEM, UM, AS IT'S NOTED, FIRST, FIRST I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, DURING OUR DISCUSSION, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, CIRCLING BACK WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT ANY OF THE REQUESTS WAS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF A LIAISON'S ROLE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHAT WE DID, AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SEEING HERE.
BUT I THINK WE DO HAVE A PATH FORWARD AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
BUT AGAIN, AS NOTED HERE, UH, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT BACKUP MATERIAL.
AND A LOT OF THIS IS ALREADY IN THE MINUTE.
SO ANYTIME YOU ARE HAVING, UH, ANY PENDING FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THEY ARE NOTED ON THE, THE MINUTES, UM, IN THE NEXT MEETING.
SO AS, AS WE END THE MEETING, YOU WILL ASK FOR PENDING AGENDA ITEMS. RYAN WILL DOCUMENT THAT, AND THEN IN THE NEXT MINUTES YOU WILL SEE THOSE PENDING AGENDA ITEMS THERE.
AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON WE WERE NOTING THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TRACKED ON A SEPARATE DOCUMENT, BUT IT WILL BE TRACKED IN THE MINUTES.
WELL, WE'LL RECEIVE ANY, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? ALL THE COMMISSIONERS? YES.
SO THIS WAS ALSO AN ITEM THAT I HAD LISTED SOMETHING ON, AND SO I, I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE THINKING AS WELL IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM PUBLIC AWARE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THINGS.
UM, BUT MINE WAS TO HAVE A LIST OF THE PENDING AGENDA ITEMS THAT SHALL BE PUBLICLY POSTED ONLINE, UM, WITH MEETING AND BACKUP MATERIALS UPDATED MONTHLY.
BUT AFTER REVIEWING WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, I GUESS BROUGHT FORWARD ON THIS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE SOMEONE ON THE COMMISSION COULD JUST BE, I GUESS, APPOINTED AS THE SECRETARY? AND THAT WAY WE CAN INTERNALLY KEEP TRACK OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, AND THEN ON, UH, WHEN YOU'RE ONLINE, ON THE, THE WEBSITE, IT COULD JUST BE A DOCUMENT THAT'S ON THERE, THAT WAY THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT, UM, IN CASE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT A PUBLIC MEMBER REQUESTED SO THAT THEY KNOW, UM, THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THAT ITEM
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THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN.CAN I MAKE A COMMENT THAT, UM, I, I WAS AWARE THAT ON OTHER COMMISSIONS HAVE THAT A SECRETARY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT MY OWN EXPERIENCE AS A COMMISSIONER WAS THAT I WANTED TO BE FOCUSED ON DELIBERATING AND NOT TAKING NOTES.
I, I AM, YOU KNOW, ENGINEER BY HABIT, I TAKE NOTES, YOU KNOW, AND I FOUND THAT IF I DO THAT, I CAN BE DISTRACTED AND NOT BE PAY PAYING ATTENTION TO THE, TO DELIBERATING.
I WANT THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S FOCUS ON THE DELIBERATION.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MEANS OF DOING IT.
AND MY ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS MAYBE A NAIVE WAS THINKING, I KNOW ONE, ONE PERSON IN THIS GROUP GOES THROUGH THE, THE TAPES BECAUSE THEY'RE BILLING THE MINUTES AND MAYBE AS THEY GO, THEY CAN TO, TO JOT THESE THINGS DOWN.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT, AND SO I SAID, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, A SOLUTION TO THIS.
AND, UH, I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO THAT, BUT THAT WAS MAYBE THE THOUGHT I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THE COMMISSIONER AND DOING THAT DOUBLE DUTY.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE HERE? MY FEEDBACK IS, UM, BEING PART OF THIS COMMISSION GOING ON ALMOST A YEAR, WE'RE BARELY GOOD AT SHOWING UP TO THE COMMISSION MEETINGS.
SO TO TRY TO PUT ANOTHER TASK ON US, EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BENEFIT US, THIS, THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME FOR IT, BUT AS, UM, IT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT IF WE DO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, UM, AND IF WE WANT RECOGNITION TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE DID CAPTURE WHAT YOU THEY SAID, OR WE CAN PUT SOME RED STAR, LITTLE THREE RED STARS BESIDE THAT ITEM TO SAY, HEY, PUBLIC, THIS IS WHAT YOU DID.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS WE NEED TO GO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO JUST GET GOOD AT DOING THE LITTLE THINGS.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH WORKING GROUPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON THAT WE DON'T NEED TO ADD ANYTHING.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE CAPACITY OR HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY TO, WE WE'RE LEARNING TO WALK AND CHEW GUM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS TIME.
AND THAT'S JUST AN HONEST, UM, INTROSPECTIVE VIEW OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
NOT SAYING THAT WE WANT EVENTUALLY GET THERE, BUT WE ARE NOT THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO I JUST WANT SOME, SOME CLARITY.
UM, WE'RE, IT APPEARS WE'RE HAVING TWO CONVERSATIONS, SO I'M GUESSING FOR THIS VERY FIRST I ITEM YEAH.
WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO AS YOU LEAVE THE MEETINGS AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR THOSE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT I AM NOTING WILL BE ON THE MINUTES.
NOW, IN TERMS OF FOLLOW UP FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ON, UM, THE MINUTES.
UH, WE'RE NOT DOCUMENTING THAT ON THE MINUTES.
AND I THINK AS WE MOVE FOR FURTHER INTO THIS DOCUMENT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE CREATE A PATH FORWARD TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT ARE BROUGHT BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THE COMMISSION WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH, BUT DON'T HAVE THE TIME DURING THE MEETING KIND OF TO DOCUMENT ALL OF THAT, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT A PATH FORWARD REGARDING THAT.
UM, SO THE, ON THE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR CONFLATING THE TWO.
NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, YEAH.
SO ON THE SETTING THE AGENDA, I HAD THAT, UM, THE CHAIR SCHEDULED TIME FOR BEGINNING OF EVERY MEETING TO REVIEW PREVIOUS MONTH AGENDA AND THEN, AND HERE FOLLOW UP FROM STAFF LIAISON AND QUESTIONS PENDING WITH PREVIEW MONTH.
AND THE VALID PUSHBACK WAS THERE, THEY WERE ASKING, ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU KNOW, CITY CODE STAFF LIAISON TRAINING, THAT'S NOT PART OF LIAISON'S DEFINED ROLE IS ON RECORD, UM, RECORD ACTIONS AND ENSURES LOGISTICAL CONTINUITY, POSTING, SCHEDULING, FACILITATING, BUT TRACKING OR REPORTING ON COMMISSIONER REQUESTS, UH, QUESTIONS OR STAFF FOLLOW UP IS NOT A REQUIRED DUTY UNLESS EXPLICITLY ASSIGNED BY THE EXECUTIVE LIAISON AND DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP.
SO THAT BASICALLY THAT THE VALID PUSHBACK WE HAD FROM THERE.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS QUESTION? THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? NOT THAT.
SO NOW, UH, MOVING ON TO, UM, AT THE MONTHLY MEETINGS, ANOTHER, UH, ITEM THAT WA IS FOR DISCUSSION HERE, WELL, AT LEAST, UM, FROM THE STAFF IS, UM, WAS INCLUDING PREVIOUS MONTH MINUTES, A SEPARATE SECTION LISTING COMMISSIONER'S REQUEST FOR FOLLOW UP INFORMATION FROM CITY STAFF.
AND THAT'S BEEN DRIVEN BECAUSE THERE'S, IN A SECOND OCCASION, SOME PEOPLE SAID, YOU KNOW, CAN WE FIND OUT FROM THE CLERK THIS OR THAT? AND THEN IT SEEMS THAT SOME OF THAT POTENTIALLY FALLS IN A CRACK.
AND, AND, AND THE PUSHBACK WE RECEIVE IS THIS ASSIGNS THE LIAISON AN ONGOING RESPONSIBILITY TO TRACK AND REPORT COMMISSIONER'S
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QUESTIONS, WHICH IS NOT PART OF A STANDARD LIAISON ROLE DESCRIBING CITY TRAINING OR CODE MINUTES SHOULD SUMMARIZE ACTIONS TAKEN, NOT SERVED AS A FOLLOW UP LOG.AND THEN ON THE ITEM EIGHT OF THE MONTHLY MEETING, I HAD, UH, THE STAFF LIAISON COMMISSIONER THAT PROPOSES A RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE COPIED ON EMAILS EXCHANGED REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY CHAMPION.
IF STAFF LIAISON NEEDS ANY ASSISTANCE, WE EXPECT THE COMMISSIONER THAT PROPOSE THE RECOMMENDATION TO HELP THEM.
UH, THIS, UH, THIS DIRECTIVE EXTENDS THE LIAISON'S ROLE INTO STAFF COMMUNICATION AND INTRODUCES ADDITIONAL COORDINATION RESPONSIBILITIES NOT REQUIRED BY CITY CODE OR LIAISON GUIDES.
YOU MAY WANT TO CLARIFY THIS LANGUAGE TO READ AT THE DISCRETION OF LIAISON AS APPROPRIATE TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT WITH CITY POLICY AND STANDARD PRACTICES.
AND I, AND I, I RECEIVED THAT UNDERSTOOD, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE SPIRIT BEHIND THIS WAS, IT WAS REALLY FOR EACH COMMISSIONER TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CHAMPION A, UM, PROPOSAL OR CHAMPION SOMETHING, IT'S NOT DONE UNTIL IT'S DONE.
DON'T CONSIDER, OKAY, GOT VOTED, PEOPLE APPROVE, I'M DONE.
YOU, UNTIL YOU KNOW THAT THE POLICE CHIEF HAS RECEIVED THIS OR SOMEBODY IN A PD, YOUR, YOUR ROLE STAY INVOLVED.
AND I WANTED THAT PERSON TO BE COPIED BECAUSE I FIGURED, YEAH, YOU SHOULD COPY LAURA AND I RIGHT NOW, CHAIRS THAT GOOD, BUT THE PERSON WHO HAS THAT, YOU KNOW, VESTED INTEREST WHO WON A CHAMPIONSHIP BE NO ON AN EMAIL TOO.
ONE THING THAT CAME UP LATER AFTER THIS THAT I REALIZED IS THAT, UH, THE ONE, ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE DID DRAFT A RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE SOME BODY FOOTAGE CAMERA OF AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED WITH ICE A FEW, UM, MONTHS AGO, AND WE DRAFTED IT, RECOMMENDATION WAS DONE.
UH, COMMISSIONER HARRIS CHAMPIONED IT WAS SENT OUT, AND THEN APPROPRIATELY WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED, HE WAS, HE WAS FLAGGED AND TOLD, HEY, WE GOT IT.
BUT IN TALKING TO, FOR INSTANCE, THE VICE CHAIR, SHE DIDN'T NOT KNOW, HEY, IT WAS RECEIVED.
I THOUGHT, WOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A HOLE THERE WHEN THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS DON'T KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE PLUG THAT WE, WE NEED TO, THAT WE NEED TO PLUG BECAUSE I'M SURE COMMISSIONER FLO WOULD LIKE, WOULD'VE LIKED TO KNOW ALSO THAT YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
WE VOTED ON SOMETHING, IT WAS RECEIVED, AND HE CAN HAVE CHECKED.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THESE HOLES THAT WE WANT TO PLUG.
AND I KNOW YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW? WELL, I HAVE A, A COUPLE THAT WE PASSED HERE.
SO BACK ON THE FIRST PAGE UNDER COMMISSIONERS, UM, WHENEVER, I GUESS THE, THE PAPER THAT YOU WANT US TO FILL OUT, IF WE ADD AGENDA ITEMS? YES.
I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT ADDING A J ON THERE TO PROVIDE A SHORT STATEMENT DESCRIBING THE POTENTIAL PUBLIC IMPACT, COMMUNITY BENEFIT, OR DUE PROCESS CONCERNS IMPLICATED BY THE PROPOSAL, THE PROPOSED ITEM.
AND MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE PUT ON HERE ARE KIND OF YES OR NO AND DON'T REALLY GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL.
AND I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO WRITE, YOU KNOW, 10 PARAGRAPHS ON IT, BUT JUST GIVE KIND OF A, A BIGGER EXPLANATION ON WHY YOU THINK THIS SHOULD BE PUT ON THERE.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
SO IN ADDITION TO ITEMS IN IMPORTANT AND TIMELINESS, WHICH IS ITEM ONE, GIVE SOMETHING ON PUBLIC POTENTIAL PUBLIC IMPACT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO, OH, I WENT BACK NOW BECAUSE AN ITEM, OH, I'M SORRY.
SO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, PUBLIC IMPACT OR DUE PROCESS CONCERNS THAT ARE IMPLICATED BY THE PROPOSED ITEM.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.
IF I COULD, I, I'LL ALSO SAY THAT IT, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
UM, I HAVE TO LOOK UP THE EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT, UM, SOME TYPE OF SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD BE IS LIKE IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, WE GET BACK TO THIS AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THAT IT DOESN'T QUITE GO WITH CITY CODE, LIKE ONE THING, RIGHT? UM, IT'LL ALLOW US TO TAKE OUT THAT ONE THING INSTEAD OF NULLIFYING THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO.
THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON THAT AT PRESENT, YOU KNOW, THE ONE, ONE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN IS FROM, UH, LEGAL AND SO FORTH.
SO I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT THERE'S NOTHING, AND BY THE WAY, I, I THINK I TOLD YOU THIS WAS, THIS WAS COPIED IN, UH, MIMIC AND BASICALLY FROM AN EXISTING, UH, COMMISSION.
SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT, UH, AS AS IT IS, EVERYTHING HERE IT SEEMS WOULD PROBABLY MAKE MEET, MEET OUR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
AND I ACTUALLY HAD MORE AMENDMENTS, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS KIND OF ON THERE.
I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST GO THROUGH 'EM ALL AND DISCUSS?
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YEAH, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS A TIME TO DISCUSS THISUM, SO UNDER, AT MONTHLY MEETINGS, UM, AND IT'S KIND OF AN ISSUE NOW.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE.
BUT NUMBER ONE IS COMMISSIONERS ATTEND, BE PREPARED AND BE ENGAGED.
I JUST ADDED ON THERE, FAILURE TO ATTEND THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS WITHOUT REASONABLE CAUSE SHALL BE REPORTED TO THE APPOINTING APPOINTING AUTHORITY.
AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOMEONE IN TROUBLE, JUST MAKING THEM AWARE THAT WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER THAT'S NOT PARTICIPATING.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, A PUNCTUATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN UNDER MONTHLY MEETINGS AGAIN, AND THE, LET'S SEE, MONTH TWO, THE PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION, DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS, AND A FORMATION OF A WORKING GROUP.
UM, I, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO A, LIKE A BRIEF CHARTER OR DEFINITION OF ITS OBJECTIVES, LIKE WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO, UM, ITS DELIVERABLES AND A TERMINATION DATE, JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE LIKE THE OBJECTIVES FOR THE WORKING GROUP, UM, AND THEN IF IT'S GONNA BE TERMINATED.
UM, AND THEN I DID ADD ON TWO, SO FOR NUMBER NINE, IT WAS THE, AN ANNUAL REVIEW REQUIREMENT.
AND THESE OPERATING PROCEDURES SHALL BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY FOR CONSISTENCY WITH CITY POLICY, STATE LAW, AND THE CPRC BYLAWS.
UM, AND AMENDMENTS SHALL BE PROPOSED BY A MAJORITY VOTE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT I JUST ADDED WAS JUST PROTECTION FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMISSION, WHICH IS AN ACCESSIBILITY CLAUSE, AND THAT'S ALL PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AND REPORTS SHALL BE MADE ACCESSIBLE TO PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMER AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT AND THE CITY LANGUAGE ACCESS POLICY.
AND I THREW THAT ON THERE AS WELL BECAUSE, UM, A DDA COMPLIANCE IS REALLY, UM, A PASSION OF MINE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT ON THERE TO PROTECT OURSELVES AS WELL.
AND SO I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD.
AND IF ANYBODY NEEDS A COPY, I THINK I GAVE THEM OUT, BUT IF YOU NEED 'EM, LET ME KNOW.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS REGARDING THIS, UH, CHAIR? I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY YES IN TERMS OF, UH, SOME OF THE, THE, UM, PROVISIONS HERE THAT YOU NOTED AS SOME OF THE PUSHBACK, UM, LEGITIMATE PUSHBACK,
UH, WAS JUST RELATED TO MAKING YOU AWARE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN NOTED THAT LIE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE, THE REGULAR SCOPE OF THE LIAISON ASSIGNED DUTIES.
HOWEVER, IN TERMS OF THE TRACKING, IF YOU'RE OPEN TO IT, WE WERE HOPING TO PROPOSE, UM, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE TRACKING THAT YOU NOTED, THAT MAYBE THE COMMISSION IS OPEN TO A EXECUTIVE LIAISON REPORT DURING EACH MEETING TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE NOTED.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT HAS NOTED SOMETHING THAT WE DOCUMENTED THAT, AND I CAN BRING BACK AS THE EXECUTIVE LIAISON THAT QUESTION, SO AS A REMINDER TO YOU THAT THE, THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBER WAS REQUESTING THIS.
IN, IN ADDITION TO, TO THAT, IF THE COMMISSION IS ASKING SOMETHING OF THE, OF THE, THE STAFF, THE LIAISON STAFF, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, A BUDGET DOCUMENT THAT I CAN COME BACK AND FOLLOW UP WITH THAT REPORT ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT EITHER THE DOCUMENT HAS BEEN PROVIDED OR SOME REASON WHY THE DOCUMENT HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED.
SO JUST PROPOSING THAT MAYBE THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE LIAISON REPORTING, UM, DOING THE MEETING THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TRACK SOME OF THOSE THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE STAFF LIAISON HAVING TO ATTRACT THO UH, UH, TO TRACK THOSE ITEMS RELATED TO THE FORM.
I THINK IT NOTED, UM, WE REALLY WANT TO, AND WHEN WE SAY THAT WE WANT AGENDA ITEMS TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE CHAIR OR THE CO-CHAIR, WE REALLY WANT TO ENSURE THAT COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE THAT THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS MM-HMM
IN TERMS OF WHAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT KIND OF STAYS IN YOUR BUCKET.
I THINK THAT WAS SOME, UH, INDICATION THAT THE FORM HERE THAT YOU NOTED WOULD BE, UM, EMAILED TO THE, TO THE, TO THE LIAISON, YES.
BUT TO CREATE AND CONTINUE SOME CONTINUITY.
WE'D LIKE THAT DOCUMENT TO STAY WITH THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR, AND AS THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR IDENTIFY THOSE, THOSE AGENDA ITEMS, THEN THOSE AGENDA ITEMS WILL GO TO THE LIAISON FOR FORMATTING AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
JUST, JUST WANTED TO, TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE THE SOLE DISCRETION AS IT RELATES TO AGENDA ITEMS, AND DON'T WANNA PUT THE LIAISON IN A POSITION WHERE THE LIAISON DIDN'T GET MY ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
AS OPPOSED TO THIS IS THE AGENDA THAT THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR APPROVED.
AND I, I HARDLY AGREE WITH THAT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I SKIPPED READING IT BECAUSE THIS WAS ON THE DOCUMENT THAT'S
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AGENDA ITEM REQUEST FORM, BUT SHE DOES WHAT, UH, DIRECTOR JUST SAID.YEAH, BASICALLY THIS IS A FORM INTENDED FOR, UM, COMMISSIONERS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I SAW IN EACH OF THESE AGENDA, I WILL USE EXAMPLE OF TODAY'S AGENDA, RIGHT? IF I LOOK AT TODAY'S AGENDA AND YOU SAY, OKAY, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO ACTION ITEMS AND SO FORTH, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL OF CPRC, INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURES, THERE'S NO INDICATION THERE OF WHO WAS THE CHAMPION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? THERE'S NO INDICATION OF THE PURPOSE OF OF, OF SOME OF IT.
AND ONE OF THE, THE ISSUES THAT, THAT HAS HAPPENED TO US BEFORE IS THAT THE PERSON THAT PROPOSED THIS MAY NOT EVEN BE PRESENT THAT DAY.
AND SO WHAT IF YOU HAVE, IF ONE HAS AN AGENDA ITEM REQUEST FORM, THEN THAT'S ACTUALLY DOCUMENTED, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON WHAT, WHAT THE IDEA WAS AND SO FORTH.
IT IS NOT INTENDED TO, FOR A BURDEN ON LIAISON AT ALL.
IT'S OUR INTERNAL, IT WAS OUR INTERNAL THING, IT WAS ATTACHED TO THIS DOCUMENT.
SO YOU HAVE A, 'CAUSE IT'S A WORD DOCUMENT, SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO JUST COPY THAT AND FILL IT IN AND PASS IT ON.
SO THE IDEA, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MAKE, THE DRAFT THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO NEXT WEEK, JUST PUT SOME OF THAT THERE AND MAYBE BY, BY THEN WE CAN ADD SOME OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THERE, YOU KNOW, SO WE MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SOMETHING.
MAY I, MAY I PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THE SURE.
IDEA OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ONLY BEING ABLE TO PUT ITEMS. I, I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA SET US IN A FRAMEWORK TO WHERE IF A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THERE'S A CHAIR, VICE CHAIR THAT ISN'T HELPFUL AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION'S TRYING TO GET STUFF DONE AND THE ROADBLOCK IS THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S YOU GUYS, BUT I'M SAYING LIKE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT COULD SET US UP FOR, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER IS FOR MAJORITY RULE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR TO KIND OF KEEP ORDER, BUT IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THE CHAIR'S DOING THINGS OR VICE CHAIR, WHOEVER IT IS AT THE TIME IS DOING THINGS THAT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION DOESN'T WANT, THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE ABLE TO OVERRIDE A RIDE IF BY A MAJORITY VOTE, UH, IN, IN SOME WAY.
AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TWO OR THREE COMMISSIONERS SAYING, HEY, PLEASE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.
IT GETS IT ON THE AGENDA AS, AND I I HAVE CONFIDENCE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL IN THAT, BUT AS FAR AS YOU GUYS CONTROLLING IT, BUT IF, IF LATER DOWN THE ROAD, I'M JUST SAYING LIKE THAT, I WOULD BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
SO ACTUALLY THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IN THE BYLAWS IN THE PAPER I GAVE YOU.
SO I HAD THAT UNDER, THAT'S UNDER ARTICLE SIX.
BUT I WANTED TO ADD ON THERE THAT ANY TWO OR MORE BOARD MEMBERS MAY PLACE AN ITEM ON THE PROPOSED AGENDA BY WRITING A REQUEST TO THE CHAIR AND LIAISON AT LEAST FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING.
AND THE CHAIR SHALL INCLUDE ITEMS UNLESS THEY'RE CLEARLY OUTSIDE THE COMMISSION'S JURISDICTION.
UM, AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT, MY IDEA WITH THAT IS IF ONE PERSON AND ANOTHER PERSON COME TOGETHER AND WANTS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, THAT THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT WITHOUT THERE BEING THE ISSUE OF IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE THERE IS A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR THAT'S NOT WILLING TO LET THE MEMBERS DO THAT.
SO IF WE COULD LOOK BACK OVER THE BYLAWS AND, AND GET THAT FINAL, I WANT TO, YEAH.
SO THIS, THIS IS THIS, UM, WE'RE DISCUSSING THE INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURES AND THE BYLAWS WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT WEEK.
BUT ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE, I AGREE.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL SEE IS THAT FROM COMMISSION TO COMMISSION, SOME OF THEM THE BYLAWS AND I AND I, UH, INTERNAL OPERATING OR THE, THE GATHER I WENT, I WENT THROUGH MULTIPLE THESE.
SO, UM, UM, SHOULD BE TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR SET THE AGENDA.
AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO SET UP HERE.
UM, UH, AND PART OF THE, THE, THE, THE REASON FOR HAVING EACH ONE OF YOU PROPOSE, AND MAYBE GET A SECOND, IS TO INCREASE THAT, THAT THE, THE POWER BEHIND THAT HAPPENING.
UM, I'M, I, I WANNA TAKE THAT INTO, INTO CONSIDERATION.
I DON'T WANNA MAKE YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST WANTED TO PUT MY THOUGHT FORWARD.
THAT'S THIS WHAT THIS WHAT YI AGREE.
UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER HARRIS.
UM, AND I WILL SAY THAT IT'S NOT EVEN TWO OR THREE YEARS PRIOR, IT LITERALLY HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE YOU ASSUME THE POSITION COMMISSIONER GREECE.
SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN WHERE THERE'S A SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE OR THERE'S A SINGLE SILOED DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
AND BY LETTING THE CHAIR SLASH VICE CHAIR
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ONLY BE THE ONES PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA, THEN OUR ISSUES GET IGNORED.AND THEN WHEN THAT'S BROUGHT UP IN FULL SESSION, EVERYONE WANTS TO THROW ROCKS AND HIDE THEIR HANDS.
I'D RATHER HAVE, IF WE'RE ALREADY GONNA GO OUT AND GET A SECOND ANYWAY, THEN THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO HAVE SOMETHING PUT ONTO THE AGENDA.
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TALKING OUT BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTH.
IF WE SAY, HEY, WE WANT AUTONOMY FROM OPO AT THE SAME TIME, HEY, OPO DO SOME OF THIS WORK FOR US.
AND SO IF WE WANT THAT AUTONOMY, THEN WE NEED TO COLLABORATE AND COMMUNICATE BETTER AND BE ABLE TO PUSH OUT THAT INFORMATION VIA THE VEHICLE LIKE YOU WERE DISCUSSING WHERE YOU JUST SEND OUT A BLAST, BUT THERE'S NO FEEDBACK, UM, REQUIRED.
'CAUSE WE VIOLATE TOMA, BUT, AND SAY, HEY, THESE ITEMS WILL BE ON WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING, UH, AND I SAY THE SAME THING.
IF I BRING UP A TOPIC AND I DO GET A SECOND, I DON'T WANT TO JUST BE THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS THROUGH, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHAT IF I GO ON A VACATION AND I CAN'T MAKE THE MEETING, THE PERSON THAT SECONDED THAT WITH ME SHOULD BE ABLE TO PICK UP THAT TASK AND KEEP THE BALL MOVING.
SO, BECAUSE I, I'M, I REALLY DON'T LIKE SINGLE POINTS OF FAILURE AND I REALLY KNOW THAT LIFE HAPPENS AND THINGS HAPPEN, SO I CAN'T GET PREGNANT.
BUT WHAT IF I HAD A BABY, RIGHT? AND I WAS OUT FOR A MONTH OR TWO, SHOULD EVERYTHING STOP BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING, BUT THEN I SHOW UP AT THE THIRD MEETING AND TRY TO PLAY CATCH UP.
I THINK THAT THIS WOULD MAKE US MORE COLLABORATIVE IF WE WORK INTERNALLY AND DEVELOP THESE MECHANISMS AND NOT JUST HAVE, I DON'T WANT THE CHAIR OR THE VICE CHAIR TO HAVE ALL THE WEIGHT ON THEM OR THE BURDEN ON THEM TO DECIDE WHAT GOES AND WHAT DOESN'T GO.
IF WE DO IT AS A MORE DELIBERATE BODY, IT WILL MAKE ME HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UM, AND THAT WILL INCREASE OUR ENGAGEMENT, OUR INVOLVEMENT, AND OUR INTEREST IN IT IF WE TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY VIEWPOINT.
AND IF I COULD ALSO SAY THAT IT, IF IT'S LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING TO WHERE LIKE THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING THE ACTIVITY OF PUTTING IT ON THE, ON THE AGENDA WHERE IT'S LIKE A DUTY OR SOMETHING, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
IT'S JUST LIKE THE, MY THOUGHT HERE IS, UM, TWO OR MORE COMMISSIONERS CAN START THAT PROCESS.
UM, NOW IF IT'S A, A DEBATE AS TO IS IT STAFF OR IS IT, IS IT CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR THAT ACTUALLY DOES IT? MM-HMM
I THINK THAT'S A SEPARATE THING TOO.
UH, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S KIND OF, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND YOU KNOW, I, SO YEAH, THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
NOT AS FAR AS LIKE, IF IT'S LIKE A, A LOGISTICAL THING WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHO ACTUALLY DOES IT THOUGH? MM-HMM
WHO YOU KNOW, IS THERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, A SHALL LANGUAGE IN THE, UH, IN, WAS IT THE PROCEDURES FOR, YOU KNOW, IF TO OR MORE COMMISSIONERS BRING SOMETHING FORTH FOR THE AGENDA ITEM, THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR SHALL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
YOU KNOW? UM, SO YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY CHAIR.
I, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT AS, AS A, AS A LIAISONS, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE CHAIR HAS FINAL APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
AND I, I WILL SAY, I, I, THIS IS GREAT DISCUSSION FOR ME.
AND IF YOU SEE, AND I ACTUALLY, UM, HAVING RECENTLY BEEN A COMMISSIONER, ONLY IF YOU WANNA SAY THAT, I TOTALLY GET IT.
I, THE REASON YOU SEE SOME RELUCTANCE IS THAT NOT BEING EXACTLY SURE OF, OF THE POWER OF CHAIRMANSHIP, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, MAYBE I GONNA BE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT, EVEN THOUGH I, I KNOW OUR COMMISSIONER, UH, FRANCO DID, WAS FULL TRANSPARENCY.
SHE PUSHED THINGS THROUGH, EVEN IF SHE DISAGREED.
I DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO THIS AND THEN LIMIT A FUTURE CHAIR IF, IF, UH, SO I WANT, I'M RESERVING THE RIGHT TO, TO STUDY THIS AND DECIDE THAT.
BUT BY YOU GUYS, YOUR POINT'S VERY, VERY WELL TAKEN.
AND, UH, AND LIKE I SAID, I, I WANNA THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT TO UNDERSTAND.
I, I'LL, I'LL SAY THIS, AT THE VERY LEAST, HAVE AN OVERRIDE MECHANISM WHERE IT'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE COMMISSIONERS COME FORTH.
REASON, BUT I JUST WANT, I SAID I CAN'T MAKE A, I DON'T, I'M HESITANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT AND YOU GUYS KNOW ME VERY WELL.
'CAUSE I WANT, I DON'T WANNA BE MAKING A DECISION FOR FUTURE CHAIR AND LIMIT THIS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S, THAT, THAT MAKES ANY SENSE TO YOU THOUGH.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND I SAY, LET THAT FUTURE CHAIR HE WORK YEAH.
YOU WORRY ABOUT THE HERE AND NOW AND BE WHERE YOUR FEET ARE.
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HEARD HOW, HOW I CHOSE TO, TO UTE IT.I'M WANT, I WANT TO LOOK AT IT THOUGH.
SO, AND ONE OF THE, I'M SORRY, ONE OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT I HAD ON THERE WAS THAT THESE BE LOOKED OVER AND REVIEWED ONCE A YEAR ANYWAYS, SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY MATTER ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR THE NEXT CHAIR IF THEY HAVE TO BE AMENDED OR REVIEWED ONCE A YEAR ANYWAY.
ANYWAY, THAT'S, YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THAT IS FANTASTIC.
UH, OTHER INPUTS PERHAPS, UH, SUNSET CLAUSES ON IT, THEN IF IT'S GONNA BE, UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW SO THAT WE'RE NOT BAKED INTO THIS FOR SAY, WHAT IF, IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO GIVE US AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, A SUNSET CLAUSE SO THAT LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW IF IT'S, IF I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHT HERE IS, YOU KNOW, A SUNSET CLAUSE ON IT SO THAT, UH, IT'S NOT BAKED INTO THE COMMISSION FOREVER IF THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS OFFENSE YEAH.
AND, AND WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE DID, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE DOING THINGS LIKE EXPECT PUT THOSE IN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE, MAKE WRITE UP THAT THOSE, THOSE CLAUSES.
AND, UH, AND I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD DO, BECAUSE WE'RE CLEARLY, THIS IS NOT, TODAY'S NOT THE DAY WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE IT WASN'T, ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HOPING ONE OF YOU GUYS, WHEN WE GET TO THE ACTIONS THAT ONE OF THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL DO IS WE POSTPONE THE, UH, VOTING ON THIS TILL NEXT TIME.
BUT, UM, ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THE BURDENS ON YOU TO, TO PUT THAT IN, PUT THAT IN A WAY THAT TO WRITE, DON'T, DON'T LEAVE THE BURDEN ON THE CHAIR OR, OR
I FIND THAT THAT WOULD VERY HELPFUL.
MAY I HAVE YOU READ MORE? SURE.
I'M WONDERING, CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO WHATEVER THE WORKING GROUP IS FOR THE BYLAWS TO GO AHEAD AND DO, LIKE YOU SAID, OTHER COMMISSIONS DO AND HAVE THESE BOTH INCLUDED AND THE WORKING GROUP CAN WORK ON BOTH THAT AND THE BYLAWS AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS ARE COVERED IN THE BYLAWS, RIGHT? I THINK THE BYLAWS, WE AGREED THAT NEXT, NEXT MEETING WE, WE, WE WILL HAVE THE, THE DISCUSSION OF BYLAWS.
THAT BYLAWS IS OFF THE, OFF THE TOPIC FOR THIS MEETING, BUT BYLAWS, SO BYLAWS, UH, THE BYLAW, UM, DISCUSSION IS AN ACTION FOR NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, I THINK WHAT SHE'S ASKING IT MAKES SENSE IS WHEN WE GET TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE UPCOMING MEETING, WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA TOO, TO BASICALLY ADDRESS TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE AND LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL OF COMBINING THESE TWO ITEMS WITHIN ONE GROUP, UM, AND CREATING AN EFFECTIVE GROUP.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE CURRENT BYLAWS WORKING GROUP, UM, IS THIS THE NAME ONLY, BUT IT REALLY CONSISTS OF MYSELF.
AND SO, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A RELEVANT DISCUSSION TO HAVE AT THAT TIME.
AS YOU SAID, IT'S TABLED FOR NOW, BUT THAT, THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
NEXT MEETING, WE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE ON THE AGENDA, BYLAWS AND BYLAWS WORKING GROUP AND, UH, THIS INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURES.
THIS IS ACTUALLY, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT A FUNCTIONING COMMISSION SHOULD BE DONE.
I'LL LI YEAH, I'LL LIE TO YOU THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.
SO THAT WAS, I THINK ANYTHING ELSE.
WE ALREADY DISCUSSED ITEM EIGHT.
[9. Discussion of public speaker comments from the Community Police Review Commission meeting on September 19, 2025.]
HERE IN THE DISCUSSION IS I LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS ON PUBLIC SPEAKER COMMENTS FOR THE CPRC ON LAST MONTH.AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE THING THAT CHAIR WAS SAYING.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING UP ANY COMMENTS OR SO OF, OF LAST, LAST, UH, MONTH PRESENTATION THAT WE WANT DOCUMENTED AND, UM, REVIEWED AND IT OPENED UP THE, TO THE REST OF YOU.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW.
I'M TRYING TO, IS IT, I FORGET, IS IT ON OUR MINUTES? IT'S PROBABLY NOT IN OUR MINUTES, IS IT? I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING I KNOW WE HAD WITH MY RECOMMENDATION WE HAD, WE HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT IT.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE HB ONE 15.
UH, THOSE, THOSE WERE THOSE, FORTUNATELY
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THE LEGISLATOR DROPPED ALL THOSE THAT WERE THREAT TO US.AND I KNOW WE HAD ALSO ONE, UH, LADY TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE ARE DOING OUR PRIORITIZATION, WE DO NOT, WE DO NOT, UH, PUT IN A LOW SOBRIETY SOMETHING THAT JUST VERBAL ABUSE NOW, WORDS THAT WE DO, WE DON'T AUTOMATICALLY CLASSIFY VERBAL ABUSE AS A MINOR, MINOR THING.
THAT WAS, UH, AND I THINK SEVERAL OF US ACTUALLY TOLD US THAT, THAT WE TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, I ASK A QUESTION, UH, IS IT NOT CAPTURED WHEN THE PUBLIC DOES GIVE COMMENTS? 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE LIKE A TRANSCRIPT TO GO BACK ON THIS.
REMEMBER WHAT, WHAT WAS SAID AND I SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB OF RECORDING, BUT I DID NOT.
UM, SO, SO THOSE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS AREN'T CAPTURED.
UM, AND IF NOT, THEN I KNOW NOW TO JUST REVIEW THE FOOTAGE OF THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING SO THAT I CAN DO A BETTER JOB IF I MAY, UM, SORRY, CAN I, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
COMMISSIONER FLOOD, UH, WHENEVER WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY ARE CAPTURED AND THEY'RE WRITTEN INTO THE MINUTES.
UH, WE DID HAVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING, UNDER ACTION NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE PETER HUNT, AND THEN FOR NUMBER 10 WE HAVE MARY ELIZABETH.
THANK YOU FOR DIRECTING ME BECAUSE I'M SO, SO THE, YEAH, SO REVIEWING THE MINUTES IS, UM, VERY HELPFUL.
I CAN ACTUALLY SAVE THOSE, UH, FOR MYSELF TOO.
AND, AND JUST TO ADD IN, THERE IS NORMALLY A PLACE, UM, AT THE END OF THE MINUTES WHERE WE ADDRESS THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I THINK LAST MEETING WAS A LITTLE STRANGE AND WE HAD, UM, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SPEAK ON SPECIFIC ITEMS. SO THOSE WERE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED ON, ON OUR MINUTES ON NUMBER TWO, NINE AND 10.
SO THERE WERE THREE COMMENTS MADE ON ITEMS. USUALLY THEY'RE REGULAR COMMENTS AT THE END.
SO I THINK THIS WAS JUST A LITTLE WEIRD AGENDA MINUTES THAT IT WAS AT, BUT YEAH, IT IS ON THE MINUTES.
UM, COMMISSIONER GRISS, UM, SURE.
I JUST WANNA KNOW AS FAR AS, UH, PROCEDURE, SINCE WE DO HAVE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER THAT DID SHOW UP, IS IT, DO WE HAVE TO REVISIT THE, UH, ADOPTING THE MINUTES FROM LAST SESSION IN NOVEMBER? OR CAN WE VOTE ON THAT NOW? OH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, COULD WE GO BACK TO THE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE COMMUN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION? UM, YEAH.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
YEAH, I THINK WE CAN.WE GAVE NOTICE, SO I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT.
I THINK I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO BACK TO THAT.
SO WE WANT TO, UM, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER MEETING AND IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SO I WANNA SHOW OF HANDS FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO WANT TO APPROVE LAST MONTH'S, UH, MEETING AGENDA.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, UM, ALL BUT ONE ABSTAIN.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER FLOOD.
SO NOW I THINK WE FINISHED THE, UH, THE, THE DISCUSSION, UH, SESSION.
[10. Approval of commission Internal Operating Procedures.]
ITEM SECTION.AND THE FIRST ONE, 10 WAS, UH, WAS APPROVAL WHERE I, I LEFT THE, UH, IT SEEMS THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, APPROPRIATE TO MOVE A POSTPONE, UH, CONSIDERATION THAT I'M HOPING THAT ONE OF YOU COULD, UH, MOTION TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL OF CPRC INTERNAL OPERATION PROCEDURE TILL NEXT MONTH.
I, I'LL, UH, I'LL MOTION TO MOVE IT TO NEXT MONTH.
COULD WE HAVE A VOTE ON THAT? OKAY.
LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S UNANIMOUS.
SO WE POSTPONE THE APPROVAL OR, UH, THE CONSIDERATION OF THE CPRC, UM, THAT OPERATING PROCEDURES? YES.
THE CPRC INTERNAL OPERAT PROCEDURES.
[11. Approval of recommendation related to access to case files under City Code.]
AS APPROVAL RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO ACCESS THIS CASE FILES UNDER CITY CODE.UM, THIS ONE, UH, THERE'S NO DRAFT ON THIS.
I WAS HOPING ONCE AGAIN THAT SOMEBODY WOULD, UM, RECOMMEND POSTPONING THAT TILL NEXT MONTH.
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POSTPONE IT TO NEXT MONTH IF WE DON'T HAVE A DRAFT.DO I HAVE A SECOND? NOT A SECOND.
SO SHOW OF HANDS, WHO AGREE TO POSTPONE THAT TILL NEXT MONTH? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNANIMOUS.
[12. Approval of recommendation requesting an online message board for the commission.]
UM, THE THIRD LINE WAS APPROVAL FOR REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND ONLINE MESSAGE BOARD FOR THE CPRC.WE, WELL WHAT'S, BUT, BUT WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING HERE IS TO APPROVE THAT WE WILL, UM, MAKE THAT REQUEST RIGHT? APPROVAL OF RECOMMENDING, REQUESTING AN ONLINE YES.
RECOMMENDING AN ONLINE MESSAGE BOARD FOR THE COMMISSION.
SO WE APPROVE, WE'RE APPROVING THAT.
WE ARE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
WE ALREADY HAVE A, A CHAMPION THAT'S GONNA DRAFT IT.
AND SO ALL THIS, THIS IS FOR APPROVING MAKING A FORMULA, UH, ACTION THAT WE WANT TO SEND THAT, UH, TO, TO, UH, TO DRAFT THAT RECOMMENDATION DRAFTED.
AND THEN FORMALLY IN THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL DECIDE WHEN YOUR DRAFT IS READY.
YEAH, CHAIR, YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
SO IT WOULD GO TO A ACTION ITEM, UM, ONCE CHAIR HARRIS HAS DRAFTED THE DOCUMENT, BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW, AND THEN YOU WOULD MOVE IT TO THE ACTION ITEM FOR APPROVAL.
YEAH, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T MIND JUST DOING A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT TO NEXT MONTH.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE APPROVING.
WE MOTION TO TABLE IT FOR THE, THE NEXT I I'LL MOTION TO POSTPONE TO THE NEXT MONTH, IF I CAN GET A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
SO ONCE AGAIN, LET'S A SHOW OF HANDS ON, ON, ON POSTPONING THIS, UH, THE NEXT MONTH.
OKAY, SO THAT CONCLUDES THE ACTION ITEMS, UH, AREA.
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
AREA IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.AND THIS IS, IT'S WHERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE VERBAL AND, AND AND LOUD BECAUSE WE WANT ACTION.
THOSE, WE ALREADY AGREED THAT, UH, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE INTERNAL OPERATING PROCEDURE AS NEXT MONTH.
WE ALSO WILL BE LOOKING AT, UM, APPROVAL TO, TO LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO ACCESS THE FILES.
10, 11, AND 12, ALL THREE OF THOSE.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT DISCUSSION ON THE BYLAWS.
AND I, IF I CAN JUST, I'M SORRY.
UM, THE APPROVAL AND THE RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO ACCESS OF FILES.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT ME WRITING THAT.
AM I THE APPROVAL TO RECOMMEND REALLY TO, UH, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE WORKING GROUP DID? I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
YEAH, SO I, I THINK THIS WAS SOMETHING FROM THE CASE R WORKING GROUP.
SO BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE SUMMARIES, THERE'S NOTHING FOR US TO RECOMMEND ON CERTAIN CASES.
NOW, UM, I KNOW OPO JUST EMAILED US SIX PRIORITY CASES THAT WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW AND THEN HOPEFULLY ONE OF THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS I PLAN TO SUGGEST IS, AGAIN, DISCUSSION OF THE CASE REVIEW WORKING GROUP FROM OUR PROGRESS AND AS WELL AS ASSIGNMENT OF ANY OTHER MEMBERS FOR THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS OF CASE REVIEW, COMMISSION REVIEW AND BYLAW GROUPS.
UM, WELL, YEAH, WELL MY THOUGHT WAS, UM, FOR ACTION ITEM NUMBER 11, 'CAUSE I KNEW I WAS GOING THROUGH IT, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO, SO THAT'S ALL PART OF WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY?
IT WAS ON AND, AND, AND, AND CORTES, FRANCO
SO AS I WAS GOING THROUGH A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, I MENTIONED THE ONES I REMEMBER I WANT YOU GUYS TO CHIME INTO, RIGHT.
WE WANTED TO BRING IT BACK THE, THE BYLAWS AMENDING.
WHICH BY THE WAY, UM, I AM NOT SURE I KNOW IF THE PRESENT BYLAWS HAVE BEEN SIGNED BY THE CITY.
SO THE, THE PRESENT BYLAWS ARE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA ON NEXT WEEK.
UH, IT WILL BE ITEM NUMBER TWO.
SO YOU'LL GET A FRESH CHANCE TO, BUT A MAN AB BY THAT, THAT JUST GOT FRESHLY PASSED, SO THAT'S FINE.
SO ONE OF THE CRITICAL THINGS WAS TO GET IT DONE AND AMEND IT AND SO FORTH WOULD WORK FINE.
BUT TO BE OFFICIALLY A COMMISSION, WE NEEDED THOSE BYLAWS APPROVED.
THAT'S WHY THAT WAS URGENT TO GET IT THROUGH AS THE FIRST PASS AMENDING IT AND, AND WHAT THINGS THAT YOU WANNA DO, WHICH IS FINE.
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YEAH.AND, AND JUST TO CORRECT CORRECTION, IT WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 58 ON THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGENDA ON NEXT WEEK, AND THAT'S NEXT THURSDAY.
WE'RE TOLD THAT WE HAVE TO, YEAH, I CAN ADD, ADD TO THAT.
WE'RE, WE JUST WANNA GET THE COMMISSION OF IT RUNNING
BUT FOR NOW, I THINK WE'RE, FOR NOW, WE'RE SETTLED.
WE WANNA PASS THE BYLAWS WE WANNA PASS.
OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU WANT ON HERE, GUYS? WE CAPTURED EVERYTHING.
UM, I THINK SO, BUT I DO WANNA, UH, ASK, UM, WHEN WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS, WHAT, UM, WHAT OUTPUTS ARE WE LOOKING FOR REGARDING LIKE THE, THE BYLAWS THEMSELVES? ARE WE LOOKING TO ADD PERSONNEL TO THE WORKING GROUP? OR ARE WE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THAT DISCUSSION GONNA BE ABOUT? UM, RIGHT.
MY EXPECTATION NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA ITEM WILL BE TWO.
WE'LL DISCUSS, UH, MORE DETAIL.
GIVE COMMISSIONER PAT PENA CHANCE TO, TO HER DISCUSS SOME, A LOT OF THINGS THAT SHE, SHE HAS THAT ON THE BYLAWS THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO, UH, THE, THE ADD HER TO ON ONE OF THE WORKING GROUPS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES ACTION ITEM.
AND, AND MAYBE EVEN IF WE, WE, WE REINSTITUTE A WORKING GROUP, DO THAT.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IN YOUR CASE, YOU UNDER, YOU ARE, YOU ARE AN EXISTING WORKING GROUP AND YOU ARE, YOU ARE DESPERATELY ASKING FOR MORE A PERSON THAT REALLY WANTS TO WORK ON IT.
WE, WE HAVE THAT PERSON, BUT IT, YEAH, WE NEED TO, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL DISCUSSED IN THE DISCUSSION.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR IDEAS, BUT THEN IN A, IN THE ITEM ACTION ITEMS, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE RECONSTITUTING OR REFORM.
ANY OTHER THINGS GUYS? BY THE WAY? UH, SO FAR I'VE, I HAVE FOLLOWED COMMISSIONER CORTEZ FRANCOS, UH, PRESIDENT OF PRETTY MUCH PUTTING ON THE BYLAWS, PUTTING ON THE, IN THE, IN THE AGENDA, EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED.
I'VE NOT VETOED ANY OF THAT YET.
BUT, UM, SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, SO, UM, I, ANYTHING AS WE WRAP UP, UM, SO ANYTHING WE'VE MISSED IS WHAT WE'VE MISSED, WHICH WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS FEARFUL THAT, UH, THAT, THAT SOMEBODY HAD SOMETHING AND IT, IT'S IN A CRACK.
SO, UH, SO THESE ARE, THIS, THIS, THIS MOMENT IN OUR MEETING IS A GOOD TIME TO BRING UP ANYTHING.
IF YOU, AS YOU GO THROUGH AND YOU LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND YOU SEE SOMETHING MISSING, BRING BRING IT UP NEXT TIME.
'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE PROBABLY, UH, NOT MISSED.
AND I'LL, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT READY TO DIS UH, DISCUSS IT, BUT IT'S FUTURE, SINCE FUTURE DOESN'T MEAN NECESSARILY NEXT WEEK.
BUT ONE OF YOUR COMMISSIONERS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THE FACT THAT IF THERE IS A CASE THAT THE CPRC OR A PO, UH, IS REVIEWING A CASE AND COMES UP WITH A, CAME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT CASE, BUT BEFORE THEY HAD A CHANCE FOR THAT CASE TO BE REVIEWED BY A PD, THE POLICE CHIEF WENT AND MADE A PUBLIC DECISION.
I THINK THAT WAS VIEWED AS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM, NOT ONLY FOR A PO BUT FOR US.
RIGHT? AND SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT SOMEBODY'S BROUGHT BEFORE AND WE HAVE THOUGHT WE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY, MAY LOOK AT, UH, LATER, BUT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY GUYS REMEMBER, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE FALLING THE CRACK AND I THINK IT'S FUNCTIONALLY IMPORTANT.
'CAUSE I DO NOT WANT THEM IN US GO TO THE TROUBLE MAKING KNOWLEDGE RECOMMENDATION AND A RECOMMENDATION AND REALIZ IN THE MIDDLE OF STUDYING, THERE'S ALREADY A DECISION MADE.
AND THEN HAVING TO GO AND MAKE THE POLICE CHIEF ACCOUNTABLE TO, HEY, WHY DID YOU NOT WAIT FOR US? ET CETERA.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN, UM, FIX BEFOREHAND.
MY, MY THOUGHT, I'M, I'M GONNA BE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE FOR A MINUTE.
I, I GENERALLY AGREE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SITUATION.
I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE, UH, IT'S SO EGREGIOUS.
WHY EVEN KEEP 'EM ON? WE PROBABLY SHOULD LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH, I DO THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT BEFORE.
AND IT WAS ACTUALLY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT WE ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THE CASE.
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT WAS, UH, INTERNAL ISSUE AND SAID, SAID, OH, IT'S FINE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT A CASE OF ABUSE, OF, OF, OF POWER.
BUT I THINK, UH, A PO AT THE TIME, P AT THE TIME HAD A DIFFERENT RULING ON IT.
AND SO I THINK IT WAS ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT SAID, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.
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A PO IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN TO US.WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN? AND SO THAT WAS, THAT, THAT WAS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FALLEN IN THE CRACK THAT WE WANT TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WAY OF, OF TRACKING THAT.
AND TO THAT POINT, UM, I, UM, I THINK I WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THAT UP.
UM, I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO AMEND THE BYLAWS TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
UM, ALMOST LIKE A, A WAY TO PREVENT THAT, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PRESENT THAT ULTIMATELY TO CITY COUNCIL FOR RESOLUTION OR SOMETHING ELSE, THAT WE USE THIS BYLAW WORKING GROUP TO REALLY MAKE SOME, GIVE SOME TEETH TO OUR COMMITTEE.
BECAUSE I THINK, UM, UNDERSTANDING OUR RIGHTS UNDER LEGAL, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SHALLS AND MUSTS IN THERE.
WE HAVE SOME CAN AND SHOULD AND WOOD AND MAYBE, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE.
SO I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF, UM, ENSURING THAT OUR VOICE IS HEARD.
THAT'S LIKE, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE RIGHT.
BRING, BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE NEED TO BE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE OF, OF MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN REMEMBER THESE.
'CAUSE I WILL, OTHERWISE THERE WE FALL IN THE CRACK.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR OUR NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS? IF THE EMAIL WENT OUT, I'M SORRY, I MISSED IT.
UM, BUT I, I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO INTERFACE AND ENGAGE AND, UH, CONTACT AND, YOU KNOW, UM, MEET WITH THEM, UM, AS APPROPRIATE.
I I CAN SAY, I THINK THERE, THERE WILL BE THEIR EMAILS AND SO FORTH ARE ABOUT TO BE SET UP.
WE ARE ESTABLISHING THEIR EMAILS.
AS SOON AS WE HAVE THOSE EMAILS OUT, WE WILL SHARE THEM WITH THE, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.
SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE.
WE ARE ESTABLISHING THEIR EMAIL ACCOUNTS AND ONCE THOSE EMAIL ACCOUNTS ARE ESTABLISHED, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THOSE WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
AND THEN MY PHONE NUMBER IS ALREADY PUBLIC ANYWAY, SO IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE DOWN MY PHONE NUMBER AND YOU CAN TEXT ME.
ANY OTHER ISSUES TO CONSIDER? OKAY.
UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.