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          [CALL TO ORDER]
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          AT 6 0 5. 
          SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE MEETING. 
          [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
DID WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMUNICATION? JESUS, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          WE GOT FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR SIT PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. 
          YOU'LL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND I'LL CALL YOU AND THEN CALL THE PERSON THAT'S UP NEXT. 
          THE FIRST PERSON WE HAVE IS MARIA LUISA GUTIERREZ, UM, SPEAKING ABOUT PROBLEMS IN THE PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL BE HECTOR OR REGARDING ACME FUNDING. 
           READY? HI. 
          UM, NEXT WE 
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HAVE HECTOR, OR, AND THEN WE HAVE MIKE KIM. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, MY NAME IS , UM, ARTIST WITHIN AUSTIN, HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          BEEN HERE SINCE 1992. 
          ALSO ARTIFICIAL DIRECTOR FOR TRO. 
          AND I WAS COMING TO SPEAK ONCE AGAIN, UH, ABOUT, UM, WELL ACME THE FUNDING MODEL, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, LIKE RIGHT NOW AS IT KIND OF, AS IT AS IT STANDS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, YOU GUYS, SOME OTHER FOLKS, AND IT'S JUST DISHEARTENING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I MEAN, THE, THE, THE QUOTE OF BEING, YOU KNOW, COMING HERE AND SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD IS JUST LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE NEXT LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO PUT MY ENGLISH CAP, ENGLISH SPEAKING CAP ON, BUT JUST DISHEARTENING, DISCOURAGING THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR SINCE LIKE 20 22 1 HAS SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN IN VAIN BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE NOW HERE AT A PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE OR ACME WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OF REDESIGNING, UM, CULTURAL FUNDING AND PROGRAMS. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE. 
          UM, AND I'LL JUST READ VERBATIM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ON THE ACME FUNDING GOAL? LIKE, YOU KNOW, FRONT PAGE UNITED STATES, OUR PROGRAMS SUPPORT ALL AUSTINITES WITH A FOCUS ON HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES IN FUNDING. 
          AND SO WE PUT THE QUESTION THEN WHERE, WHERE IS THAT? BECAUSE AS THE LADY WHO JUST SPOKE BEFORE ME, IT'S THE THIRD YEAR THAT SHE'S BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF APPLYING THIS AND THAT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT SHE WAS PROMISED, YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA BE GUIDED THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS IN SPANISH. 
          YOU'RE GONNA HAVE WORKSHOPS, ASSISTANCE, EVERYTHING YOU NEED IN SPANISH. 
          NOTHING HAPPENED FIRST YEAR, SECOND YEAR, SOME OF IT HAPPENED, BUT ONCE IT GOT TO CERTAIN THINGS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WASH THE HANDS AND BE LIKE, WELL, SORRY, LIKE YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. 
          AND LIKE SHE STATED, YOU KNOW, SHE'S AT A STANDSTILL, UH, OF RECEIVING FUNDING BECAUSE THERE'S NO SPANISH ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE TO NAVIGATE THE CONTRACT. 
          UM, AND SO GOING BACK TO THE GOAL OF ACME, IT'S LIKE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS THAT SUPPORT OF HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES? BECAUSE IF YOU GO ON THE PAGE, THERE'S NOTHING IN ANY OTHER LANGUAGE. 
          NOT, NOT, I'M NOT, NOT JUST HERE ADVOCATING FOR SPANISH BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN, THE ARTISTS IN AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, THERE, IT'S QUITE DIVERSE NOWADAYS. 
          YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF LANGUAGE, ALL KINDS OF RACES, ALL KINDS OF ETHNICITIES. 
          SO IF THE CITY CHOSE TO OPEN THE DOOR AND IT STATES THAT, YOU KNOW, POINT BLANK HERE, LIKE, WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT? YOU KNOW, LIKE, WE SHOULD BE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION SOMEHOW SOME WAY. 
          BUT IT'S LIKE INSTEAD OF PROGRESSING, WE REGRESSING. 
          SO ANOTHER EXAMPLE AS WELL, IT'S, WELL ACTUALLY, I'M NOT TO GO FURTHER INTO THE EXAMPLE, BUT I LIKE TO CITE, LIKE REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THIS STATEMENT AND SEE HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE ALL OF THE SUPPORT THAT SHOULD EXIST. 
          AND IT'S THERE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          BECAUSE THE QUICK EXAMPLE THAT I WAS GONNA MENTION IS THERE'S A, THERE WAS AN ARTIST WHO APPLIED FOR NEXUS GRANT RECEIVED THE 5K AWARD AND THEN APPLIED FOR THE, THE, THE ARTIST ACCESS PROGRAM TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO A SPACE THINKING THAT THIS WAS ALL TIED TOGETHER. 
          WHEN SHE GETS INTO THIS SPACE, SHE REALIZES THAT SHE HAS NO TECH SUPPORT, NO PRODUCTION SUPPORT. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY REDUCED HOURS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T STAFFING AT CULTURAL CENTERS. 
          SO THEN SHE COMES TO A, A POINT OF REALIZATION THAT LIKE, WELL, WHY DID THEY, WHY DID I EVEN APPLY FOR THAT 5K GRANT? NOW I HAVE THIS RESPONSIBILITY TO MY COMMUNITY, TO THE ARTIST, AND SHE'S PUTTING OUT OF POCKET AND COVERING THOSE EXPENSES, WHICH NOW SHE'S IN THE RED. 
          SO GOING BACK, IT'S LIKE WHAT THE LADY MENTIONED AS WELL, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT WE'RE GROWING, THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE GETTING BETTER, THAT WE'RE, UH, PROGRESSING. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S CREATING IMPACTS TO OUR OWN ARTIST WHERE THINGS AREN'T FLUID, THINGS DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER, THE PROGRAMS DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER, AND THEY'RE ALL JUST KIND OF SEPARATE. 
          SO, I MEAN, WE'RE AT A POINT, LIKE I SAID, WHERE WE ARE REDESIGNING, YOU KNOW, ACME, IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN AUSTIN, WHERE IT'S GOT ITS OWN DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, ITS OWN ENTITY TO OVERSEE CULTURE AND ARTS. 
          LIKE, WHY ARE WE NOT MAXIMIZING LIKE THAT POSSIBILITY TO REALLY PUT AUSTIN AND LIKE ARTISTS ON THE MAP. 
          LIKE, IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING. 
          THANK YOU MR. OZ. 
          WE WILL TAKE NOTE OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. 
          NEXT WE HAVE MIKE KIM, AND THEN RAISIN MACINTOSH. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          SORRY. 
          NO, IT'S A NEWBIE THING FOR ME. 
          IT'S A NEWBIE THING FOR YOU. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ON BEHALF PRESIDENT PRESENT. 
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OH, YOU'RE GONNA DO, YOU'RE IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          PUT MY NAME DOWN. 
          I NO CLUE. 
          OKAY, . 
          SO THESE ARE PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE ARE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. 
          UH, NOW IF WE CAN 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]
LOOK AT THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING. 
          SEPTEMBER 22ND. 
          HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? COMMISSIONER HOUSTON, SHOULD WE TAKE ROLE? OH, YES. 
          WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE ROLE FIRST. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          SO I'M GONNA TAKE ROLE. 
          I AM, I AM, UH, JANET HOUSTON CHAIR. 
          UM, A GRAY VICE CHAIR HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER KEYS. 
           COMMISSIONER MALTO. 
          COMMISSIONER GARZA. 
          COMMISSIONER MACH HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER HUSSEINI HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER ZIMAN PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER CHENEY WILL BE ABSENT TODAY. 
          SHE NOTIFIED ME THAT SHE WILL BE OUT, BUT SHE PLANS TO ATTEND NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. 
          PLEASE CONTINUE WITH WELL WISHES FOR HER HEALTH CONCERNS. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON PRESENT AND COMMISSIONER CHARLA. 
          WE DO HAVE QUORUM WITH THOSE PRESENT. 
          SO NOW HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO GO OVER THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE MINUTES. 
          MOTION TO PROOF MOVE BY COMMISSIONER ZISMAN. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GRAY CHAIR. 
          I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE MEETING, SO I'LL RECUSE MYSELF FROM RECRUITING. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON IS ABSTAINING BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT PRESENT FOR THE MEETING. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER. 
          COMMISSIONER HUSSAINI, IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOUR CAMERA'S NOT ON, YOU'RE NOT ON THE DAAS. 
          UM, I WILL NEED A MOMENT. 
          I DON'T HAVE MY SCARF. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          TAKE YOUR TIME. 
          TAKE YOUR TIME. 
          SO COMMISSIONER HUSSEINI IS ABSENT FOR THIS VOTE. 
          ONCE AGAIN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? OH, COMMISSIONER HUSSEINI IS PRESENT FOR THE VOTE. 
          WE HAVE NO ONE OPPOSED. 
          THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          AND DO I NEED TO KEEP MY CAMERA ON ONLY WHEN WE'RE VOTING OR THE WHOLE TIME? YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR CAMERA ON FOR AS MUCH OF THE MEETING AS POSSIBLE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST I'LL BE BACK ON IN A FEW MINUTES AND I'LL STAY ON. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UHHUH. 
          . 
          WHAT AM I DOING NOW? OH, OKAY. 
          UM, BEFORE WE START THE MEETING, I JUST WANNA TAKE A, A MOMENT AS THE CHAIR 
          [Additional Item 1]
TO SAY THAT I FORGOT TO PUT THE REPORT FROM THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION MEETING ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE. 
          THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION IS UP, SO LOTS OF GOOD THINGS. 
          THEY HAVE A WEB, A WEB APP CALLED XO XO THAT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE CLOSURES ARE ON YOUR ROUTE TO A SPECIFIC EVENT DOWNTOWN. 
          SO WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION, THEY'RE FINDING A WAY FOR US TO GET AROUND THAT. 
          UM, THEY HAVE THE DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE SPACE ACTIVATION POPUPS THAT ARE ACTIVATING VACANT SPACES. 
          THEY'RE SPEAKING WITH THE OWNERS OF UNITS THAT AREN'T OCCUPIED AND USING FINDING WAYS TO FIND CREATIVE SPACES FOR ARTISTS IN THE CITY. 
          UM, SOMETIMES AT A DISCOUNT, MANY TIMES AT A DISCOUNT, I THINK LOWER THAN MARKET RATE. 
          AND ANY ARTISTIC EVENT CAN APPLY FOR AN ACTIVATION. 
          THEY ARE SENDING A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, REMOVE THE HEIGHT AND FAR RESTRICTIONS DOWNTOWN WITH A CHARGE TO THE, UH, AUSTIN HOUSING TRUST, AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH PROCEEDS SPECIFICALLY, RATHER THAN NOT SAYING WHAT THE MONEY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST RECEIVES DOES, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY BEEN TWO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS BUILT SINCE THAT TRUST WAS ESTABLISHED. 
          SO THEY'RE CHARGING THEM WITH ACTUALLY BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THEN THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF UNITS DOWNTOWN. 
          THEY HAD A GOAL OF 25,000 DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS BY 2025, AND THEY'RE AT 15,000. 
          SO THEY'RE BELIEVING THAT IT'S A SUPPLY PROBLEM. 
          I ASKED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF ACTUAL RESIDENCE 
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RESIDENTS COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT EXIST, AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE ME THAT PERCENTAGE BECAUSE IF, IF THERE ARE 40,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AVAILABLE AND THERE ARE ONLY 15,000 RESIDENTS, THAT'S NOT A SUPPLY PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S A COST PROBLEM. 
          SO I ASKED THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, AND THAT'S MY UPDATE. 
          NOW I HAVE A QUESTION ON 
          [Additional Item 2]
THE AGENDA. 
          WE'VE GOT A REQUEST FROM THERESA ALVAREZ TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 TO APPROVE THE NOMINATION FOR THE RALLY AUSTIN BOARD UP INTO THE, UP IN THE AGENDA. 
          AND, UM, I SUGGEST PUTTING THAT AFTER ITEM TWO, AFTER THE RALLY. 
          AUSTIN'S ACTUAL, UH, PROPOSAL PRESENTATION. 
          MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 12 TO ITEM NUMBER BEHIND TWO FOR NUMBER THREE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER ZIMAN. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          GOT TWO SECONDS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? SO WE'LL BE MOVING THAT AGENDA ITEM. 
          SO WE ARE INTO THE MEET OF THE AGENDA. 
          UH, SO THIS IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, PRESENTATION 
          [2. Presentation on Rally Austin’s Proposal for the 2026 City of Austin Bond Election by David A. Colligan, Chief Operating Officer, Rally Austin.]
ON RALLY AUSTIN'S PROPOSAL FOR THE 2026 CITY OF AUSTIN BOND ELECTION BY DAVID COLLIGAN, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, RALLY AUSTIN. 
          GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER DAVID COLLIGAN WITH RALLY AUSTIN. 
          JOINED HERE WITH TARA ALVAREZ. 
          WE'LL BE HERE FOR YOUR NEXT TWO ITEMS. SO GETTING COMFORTABLE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TONIGHT. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, UH, THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND THE, THE INPUT, UH, COULD YOU GIMME THE REMOTE THAT WE CAN RECEIVE BY, BY BEING HERE TONIGHT? WE PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION IN ADVANCE. 
          I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD COPIES OF PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE PUBLICLY, UH, SO THAT THIS COULD BE MORE OF AN ITERATIVE PROCESS WITH YOU. 
          WE'VE ALSO, UH, SEEN OTHER PRESENTATIONS FROM THE CITY, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD COPIES OF THAT AND THE ABILITY TO ACCESS IT SO YOU'D HAD CONTEXT FOR THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TODAY. 
          THIS PART OF THE PRESENTATION OR THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, IS REALLY FOCUSED ON FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED AND ARE LOOKING AT THE CITY TO, TO HAVE REFLECTED WITHIN THE 2026 BOND ELECTION. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A CONVERSATION FOCUSED ON NOVEMBER, 2026, NOT NOVEMBER, 2025 FOR THE TAX RATE ELECTION TO VERY DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND, UH, A PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED IN ADVANCE, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION TO OR FROM, UH, CITY STAFF I THINK FROM THIS ACTUAL MEETING. 
          SO IF YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND AT THAT TIME, YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT. 
          RALLY AUSTIN IS THE FIRST MULTIPURPOSE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION CREATED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          THAT WAS BACK IN 2020. 
          AND IT'S MUCH IN PART DUE TO THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER AND REQUESTING THAT A THIRD PARTY BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT AND EXPEDITE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS AND, AND DIFFERENT REAL ESTATE FOCUSED PROJECTS. 
          THE ARTS, THE MUSIC, THE CREATIVE AND CULTURAL COMMUNITY IS REALLY THOSE WHO STARTED THE RALLY TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THIS AGENCY THAT TODAY IS EQUITY FOCUSED, BEING DRIVEN BY A NUMBER OF EXECUTIVES FROM THE, THE CITY ITSELF AND THEN ALSO FROM OTHER MAJOR INSTITUTIONS THAT WE'LL WALK THROUGH. 
          BUT YOU'LL SEE HOW IT IS WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE EXPEDITED SERVICE AND SUPPORT IN REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF FINANCIAL TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO BRING NEW MONEY TO THE TABLE AND THEN COMPLETE MORE OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          OUR VISION AND MISSION VERY FOCUSED ON EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, BEING FOCUSED ON REAL ESTATE, UH, AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE ASSETS AS WELL AS FINANCING. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITIES WHO CALLED FOR OUR CREATION. 
          HERE YOU'LL ALSO SEE OUR WORK BEING DIVIDED INTO THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, JUST SO THE COMMUNITY CAN BETTER HELP, UH, UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS WE'RE LOOKING TO CONNECT WITH ARTS, MUSIC AND CULTURE. 
          HOW IT IS WE SEEK TO CREATE COMPLETE COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT AUSTIN. 
          AND HOW WE'RE LOOKING TO LEVERAGE CATALYTIC PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY ECONOMIC BENEFIT, BUT A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS WELL. 
          OUR BOARD WHO IS VERY HEAVILY AT WORK AND MAKING A LOT OF THIS POSSIBLE, YOU CAN SEE MAJOR PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE A PART OF THOSE REGULAR CONVERSATIONS AND THEN OTHERS WHO ARE NOMINATED, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT WITH YOUR OWN NOMINATION HERE FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION. 
          JUST A QUICK RECAP OF OUR PROGRAM OF WORK AND WHAT IT IS WE'VE ACHIEVED TO DATE SINCE BEING CREATED IN OCTOBER, 2020. 
          YOU CAN SEE HERE THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT ON THE BOARD, UH, AS AFFORDABLE HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          WHILE WE WORK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          WE BREAK OUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE SUCCESS STORIES WITHIN 
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THESE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAT'S GONNA BE COMING LIVE ON EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS, UH, AND WHY IT IS THEY'RE CRITICAL TO THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENTS OF AUSTIN WHENEVER WE LAUNCH OUR NEW WEBSITE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. 
          SO AGAIN, TODAY'S CONVERSATION FOCUSED ON NOVEMBER, 2026. 
          UH, AND I SENT OVER A LOT OF INTRODUCTORY INFORMATION TO CATCH YOU UP TO SPEED REALLY QUICKLY. 
          SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE LINKED, SO WHEN YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION, YOU CAN ALSO CONNECT TO THOSE DOCUMENTS AS WELL. 
          ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THEY WERE A PART OF MY INTRODUCTORY EMAIL. 
          UM, WHERE WE CURRENTLY STAND IS THE CITY HAS A BOND ELECTION ADVISORY TASK FORCE. 
          AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, UH, THEY HAVE BROKEN INTO THEIR WORKING GROUPS AFTER RECEIVING THE FIRST ROUND OF PRESENTATIONS ON EXISTING CAPACITY AND PROJECTS THAT HAVE OR HAVE NOT BEEN DELIVERED FROM PAST BOND ELECTIONS. 
          SO THEY'VE RECEIVED THAT, THEY'VE REVIEWED THE INFORMATION, THEY'RE NOW LOOKING FORWARD TO 2026. 
          THEY'RE DOING SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ALTHOUGH THE SCHEDULE I'M LEARNING HAS CHANGED A BIT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PIVOT AROUND OR THE CONVERSATION FOR THIS NOVEMBER, UH, THE CITY STAFF WILL PUT OUT THEIR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION. 
          THEN THE B TIFF WILL RECONVENE FROM THEIR WORKING GROUPS TO FORMULATE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL GO TO MARIN COUNCIL AROUND MAY. 
          AND THEN CITY STAFF WILL PUT FORWARD A FINAL RECOMMENDATION BEFORE COUNCIL CONSIDERS WHAT IT IS THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE START OUR CONVERSATION WITH STAKEHOLDERS BY FLASHING THIS IMAGE, UH, BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO SEE THE EMOTION THAT THIS IMAGE EVOKES. 
          UH, I THINK MOST OF US ARE AWARE OF WHAT THIS IMAGE COMES FROM OR WHAT IT IT ILLUSTRATES, BUT WE BRING THIS UP AS THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION AROUND OUR VALUES HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD OR ORIGINALLY COINED BY RED WASI ON A RADIO SHOW HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          HE CALLED IN, MADE A DONATION TO KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD. 
          HE AND HIS WIFE THOUGHT THAT WERE CATCHY. 
          THEY CREATED A WEBSITE, CREATED SOME MERCH TO GO ALONG WITH IT, AND REALLY STARTED PROMOTING THE KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD BRAND. 
          IT REALLY DIDN'T GET HEAVY ROTATION UNTIL THE CITY OF AUSTIN WAS LOOKING TO INCENTIVIZE A MAJOR RETAILER TO BE HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES STARTED COMING OUT. 
          THEY GRABBED THAT STICKER AND THEY PUT THE TAGLINE UNDERNEATH THERE THAT SAID, SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS. 
          AND WE THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL MOMENT BECAUSE THAT'S A RALLY FOR OUR VALUES HERE WITHIN AUSTIN, REFLECTING OUR IDENTITY AS A CITY AND HOW OUR LOCAL LEGACY, CULTURAL, CREATIVE, THE THINGS THAT WE'VE CREATED, THOSE ARE OURS BEING A PART OF OUR IDENTITY MOVING FORWARD. 
          NOW, OF COURSE, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE SAY, NOPE, WE IS DEAD. 
          IT'S GONE. 
          WE'RE COOL. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS, YOU KNOW, ON DISPLAY COME AROUND HALLOWEEN, UH, AND YOU CAN EVEN SEE IT IN OUR OWN AIRPORT WHERE YOU CAN PURCHASE THIS ACTUAL T-SHIRT FROM AUSTIN CHRONICLE WHERE IT, IT STATES REST IN PEACE. 
          OLD AUSTIN, RIGHT? ENLISTED ON THAT T-SHIRT ARE A NUMBER OF CREATIVE SPACES, A NUMBER OF LOCAL LEGACY BUSINESSES THAT WE PROBABLY ENJOY THAT ARE A PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND JUST DAY-TO-DAY LIVING HERE, WE SAY ALL OF THIS REALLY TO SHED LIGHT AND, AND HELP FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT OUR LEGACY IS A CREATIVE AND CULTURAL COMMUNITY, IS MORE THAN JUST OUR IDENTITY. 
          IT'S PART OF THESE ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT WE'VE BUILT OVER TIME. 
          AND THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME, AS YOU'VE RALLIED TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT AND BRING RESOURCES TO THE TABLE. 
          WE WANTED TO GIVE MERIT TO THAT CONVERSATION. 
          AND WE SHOW YOU A SERIES OF ARTICLES THAT REALLY DO SCIENTIFICALLY DIP INTO THAT, THAT REALM FOR YOU. 
          BUT WE KNOW THAT COMMERCIAL AFFORDABILITY IS IMPACTING CREATIVES EVERY BIT AS MUCH AS RESIDENTIAL AFFORDABILITY, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO WORK HERE AND CREATE HERE IN AUSTIN, THEN IT'S EVEN HARDER FOR YOU TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 
          RIGHT? AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT'S PLAYING OUT FOR A NUMBER OF OUR CREATIVES HERE IN, IN MARKET. 
          WHAT'S AT LOSS OR WHAT'S AT RISK IS THE POTENTIAL LOSS FOR THIS ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT CONTINUES TO TURN FOR EVERYONE FROM TOURISM TO, TO INDUSTRY GROWTH AND WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          KEEPING THIS PLACE AND ITS IDENTITY IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, AND IF WE DO LOSE THIS SENSE OF IDENTITY, WE'RE WE'RE VULNERABLE, RIGHT? UH, IN BEING ABLE TO NAVIGATE SOME OF THE OTHER GROWTH CHALLENGES AS A MARKET RALLY, AUSTIN BRINGS FORWARD A PROPOSAL TO KEEP AUSTIN HOURS. 
          AND WE DO THIS BY BREAKING OUR WORK INTO THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. 
          UH, OUR FOCUS AREAS THAT ARE A PART OF THIS FULL PROPOSAL, AGAIN, FOCUSING IN ON REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, REAL ESTATE ASSETS, AND HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE THIS WORK TO BRING MORE FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES TO THE TABLE. 
          BUT ESSENTIALLY 
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IT MEANS THIS RALLY AUSTIN IS CONTINUING TO LOOK TO DO THE SAME THREE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, JUST SCALING IT UP AND DOING IT IN A VARIETY OF OTHER SECTORS. 
          FIRST, FOCUSING ON PROPERTY ACQUISITION, BEING IN CONTROL OF REAL ESTATE. 
          SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET THE TERMS FOR THE USE OF THAT REAL ESTATE ON BEHALF OF OUR PARTNERS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ON SITE OR THE, JUST THE WORKING OF THE SITE ITSELF. 
          UH, SO IT IS ENHANCED, UM, ARE SO IT IS A BETTER OR MORE ADAPTIVE SPACE FOR THE BUSINESS THAT'S TAKING PLACE THERE. 
          NOT ONLY INVESTING IN THE SITES THAT WE OWN, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO WORK THROUGH AGREEMENTS LIKE WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK THROUGH IN A LITTLE LATER. 
          AND FINALLY WORKING WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE THEIR LOAN GRANT PROGRAMS, THE SUPPORTS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE WHO ARE STILL IN MARKET WHILE WE BRING ON MORE OF THESE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS. 
          SO I'M GONNA DIVE INTO EACH OF THOSE THREE AREAS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICALLY, UM, OR A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH JUST TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT IT IS IS A PART OF THIS PROPOSAL. 
          FIRST, THE EXPANSION OF THE AUSTIN CULTURAL TRUST IS, IS A PRIORITY FOR US. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE ISSUANCE OF OUR FIRST RFP BROUGHT FORWARD $350 MILLION WORTH OF NEED. 
          AND IF YOU'VE WATCHED THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT WE MADE, TWO BEATS OF FOCUSED ON HOW IT IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH AND LEVERAGE, UH, WHAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS IN 2018, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE STILL HAVE $3 MILLION OF MEASURED NEED, UH, AND, AND, AND THAT'S GROWING RIGHT BY THE DAY. 
          SO WE LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES, AND I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN, BUT PEOPLE REALLY LIKE THE DATA, UH, AND THEY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF THE CAPITAL STACK, UH, AND WHAT'S BEEN ACHIEVED WITH FUNDS BY SOME OF OUR PEER CITIES, SAN FRANCISCO BEING THE, THE BENCHMARK FOR CULTURAL TRUST, NOT JUST ACROSS THE NATION, BUT REALLY ACROSS THE WORLD. 
          YOU CAN SEE TWO OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY RECENTLY HAVE BROUGHT ONLINE, 4 47 MENA, IS THIS, THIS LIKE MULTI-STORY TOWER THAT PROVIDES OFFICE SPACE, REHEARSAL SPACE, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT JUST OPEN SPACES THAT ARE AFFORDABLE FOR ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF CREATIVES OR CREATIVE ORGANIZATIONS TO COME IN AND USE ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          UH, THE SCHOOL OF ARTS AND CULTURE, THE MEXICAN HERITAGE PLAZA IS THE IMAGE BELOW. 
          AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IN OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY WHERE THE CITY CAME FORWARD AND OFFERED THE PROPERTY TO CASTE, THEY WERE THEN ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER THROUGH PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR INVESTMENT BEING LOWER, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE PROPERTY AND BRING OTHER FINANCING SOURCES INTO MAKING THIS AN AFFORDABLE SPACE AND FOR CULTURAL PURPOSES. 
          NOW, IF SAN FRANCISCO IS THE PREMIER ORGANIZATION DOING THIS WORK, AND THERE ARE OTHERS AROUND THE NATION, I DO WANNA POINT OUT FROM THE TOP PARAGRAPH. 
          THEY'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 11 PLUS YEARS NOW. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR INVENTORY OF PROJECTS, THEY'VE DELIVERED AROUND 83,000 PLUS SQUARE FEET OF AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE. 
          THEY'VE SECURED THAT OVER THAT 11 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW IT IS. 
          THEY'VE USED, UH, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. 
          AND HOW RALLY IS LOOKING TO ACT IN THE FUTURE. 
          CHICAGO HAS A TURS THAT'S IN PLACE THAT FOCUSES ON MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF AGREEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE CREATIVE BUSINESSES. 
          PITTSBURGH HYPER-FOCUSED ON A VERY SMALL MORE DISTRICT AREA FOR THEIR CULTURAL TRUST. 
          AND I LEAVE NEW ORLEANS HERE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE HOT DOLLARS, AS YOU WOULD'VE SEEN IN MY FIRST PRESENTATION. 
          UM, NEW ORLEANS IS VERY FOCUSED ON INDIRECTLY SUPPORTING THEIR VENUES WITH THE USE OF THOSE HOT FUNDS SO STRONGLY PROMOTING THOSE VENUES TO GET PEOPLE INTO THEM FOR BUSINESS. 
          YOUR AUSTIN CULTURAL TRUST REPRESENTED $27 MILLION THAT HAS COME DOWN TO RALLY OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND THESE ARE SEVEN OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ANNOUNCED TO DATE WITH MORE COMING IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT AGAIN, IF YOU RECALL WHAT WE JUST LOOKED AT FROM THE PREMIER AGENCY OUT OF SAN FRANCISCO IN THREE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING AND BUILDING THIS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE 53,000 SQUARE FEET WITH JUST THESE SEVEN PROJECTS. 
          AGAIN, MORE COMING, IF WE WERE TO ADD IN THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FEET THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE OR DEVELOP THROUGH OUR WORK ON BLOCK 16 AND 18 ON EAST 11TH, THAT'LL BRING US AROUND 83,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          SO I I SAY THAT TO APPLAUD YOU BECAUSE THIS WAS YOUR RALLY. 
          YOU CHAMPIONED THE WORK OF OUR ORGANIZATION. 
          YOU SUPPORTED US ALONG THE WAY, AND HERE WE ARE. 
          WE'VE BUILT SOMETHING THAT RIVALS A NATIONAL INTERNATIONAL BENCHMARK 
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IN A THREE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. 
          WE KNOW WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO AND THAT'S WHY THE PROPOSAL IS THIS $80 MILLION FOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES. 
          WE CONSERVATIVELY, CONSERVATIVELY BELIEVE THAT CAN GET US SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT TO 10 SITES THAT ARE REQUIRED AND UNDERNEATH RALLY, UH, BRINGING FORWARD ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PLUS SQUARE FEET, AGAIN, BEING A CONSERVATIVE AMOUNT, YOU CAN SEE HERE WITHIN THE CHART, WE BREAK DOWN THOSE POTENTIAL PARTNERS, WHO IT IS AND HOW IT IS WE'LL BE LOOKING TO LEVERAGE THE SITE, UM, WITH THESE POTENTIAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND THEN THE LEVERAGE IMPACT OF THE PROJECT ITSELF. 
          CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE REQUESTING $50 MILLION FOR BEING ABLE TO WORK THROUGH MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AND AGREEMENTS TO SECURE SPACES WHILE MAKING THEM MORE USEFUL. 
          UM, WE BELIEVE EIGHT TO 10 PROJECTS CAN BE SUPPORTED THERE, NOT JUST THE EIGHT TO 10 THAT WE WOULD BE ACQUIRING, BUT OTHERS POTENTIALLY. 
          AND THEN OTHER LOAN AND GRANT PROGRAMS CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN WHILE THEY WORK THROUGH A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS FOR GRANTS OR LOANS. 
          SO WE CAN RETAIN THOSE AGENCIES OR ENTITIES THAT ARE HERE IN AUSTIN AGAIN UNTIL WE HAVE MORE OF THESE LONG-TERM SPACES IN PLACE. 
          NEX IS TO TURN OUR ATTENTION SIMILARLY TO OUR LEGACY BUSINESSES. 
          AND THIS IS VERY, THIS IS DELINEATED RIGHT, NOT JUST OUR CULTURAL AND CREATIVE SPACES, BUT MORE OF OUR LOCAL MOM AND POP SHOPS, THE RESTAURANTS OR RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE A PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES THAT WE REALLY CALL HOME. 
          WE ALIGN WITH THE, THE DEFINITION OF A LEGACY BUSINESS HERE IN AUSTIN WITH PRESERVATION AUSTIN, WHICH IS 20 YEARS WITHIN A LOCATION OR IN OPERATION UNDER THAT NAME. 
          WE KNOW THAT DOLLARS CIRCULATE DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR OWN BUSINESSES, RIGHT? WE'RE SEEKING TO RETAIN THOSE DOLLARS HERE. 
          OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE ESTABLISHING COMMERCIAL TRUST, SO WORKING JUST LIKE WE DO WITHIN THE CULTURAL SPACE, BUT FOCUS ON THIS TYPE OF USER. 
          ALSO, SAN FRANCISCO COMING IN WITH ANOTHER, UH, BENCHMARK PROGRAM. 
          THEY'RE ABLE TO INVENTORY ALL OF THEIR SMALL LEGACY BUSINESSES AND THEN THEY'RE WORKING, UM, SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THIS GRANTING PROGRAM WHERE THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE LANDLORD TO BE ABLE TO SECURE SPACE VIA AN AGREEMENT. 
          AND THEN ALSO WORKING WITH THE LEGACY BUSINESS ALMOST IN LIKE A PER JOBS OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE INCOME ON BOTH ENDS TO SUPPORT AFFORDABILITY CHICAGO, USING THAT TURS AGAIN, MORE IN AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FASHION, HAVING GRANTS UP TO $250,000 TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF WORK. 
          AND A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE INVENTORYING THEIR LEGACY BUSINESSES, BUT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY KEY FINANCING OR PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT MERIT, RIGHT? UH, FOR BEING IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE'RE REQUESTING $20 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO SEED A COMMERCIAL TRUST. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT CAN GET US FIVE TO 10 LEGACY BUSINESS SITES HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          SETTING ASIDE $20 MILLION FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AGAIN, NOT JUST FOR THOSE SPECIFICS LOCATIONS, BUT A NUMBER OF OTHERS HERE WITHIN THE AUSTIN AREA AND WORKING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR OTHER PART DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY FOR LOAN AND GRANT PROGRAMS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT LEGACY BUSINESS. 
          FINALLY, WE LOOK AT ONE MORE PRODUCT, WHICH IS BRINGING AFFORDABLE WORK SPACE AND AFFORDABLE LIVING SPACE TOGETHER. 
          WE'RE SEEING THIS DONE THROUGHOUT THE NATION ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          WE'VE EVEN SEEN ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS LAND HERE AND OPEN HERE RECENTLY. 
          BUT BEING ABLE TO CATALYZE, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING OPTION FOCUS ON OUR CREATIVES STAYING HERE IN MARKET. 
          AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE ISSUE AROUND AFFORDABILITY IS COMPOUNDED WHEN IT IS DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO AFFORD THE PLACE TO CREATE AND, AND BE ABLE TO MARKET THE WORK THAT YOU DO. 
          NOW, WE KNOW NOT ALL CREATIVES CAN LIVE AND WORK IN THE SAME SPACE. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME, UM, BENCHMARKS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW HERE, LIKE FROM PHILADELPHIA, CHICAGO, UH, AND HOW IT IS THEY'RE ABLE TO OFFSET OR HELP BALANCE COSTS FOR BOTH AREAS. 
          BUT SOME REALLY COOL PROJECTS ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS LIKE ARTSPACE, WHO HAS 60 OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ACROSS THE NATION WHERE YOU CAN FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH AFFORDABLE WORKING AMENITIES. 
          NOW, WHETHER IT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, WHICH IS MORE OF AN ARTS LOFT, RIGHT? UH, THERE'S OTHER BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE MORE SHARED AMENITIES AND UNITS. 
          'CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY CAN CREATE THEIR, THEIR CREATIVE STUFF WITHIN ONE PLACE, RIGHT? UM, IT'S ALSO BETTER TO HAVE THOSE FACILITIES SHARED AT CERTAIN TIMES AND IT SUPPORTS CERTAIN LIVING ARRANGEMENTS. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THESE IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT HISTORICAL SPACES, 
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UM, AND, AND REPURPOSED SPACES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY COMMUNITIES WITHIN EACH OF THESE AREAS THAT A DEVELOPER LIKE THIS IS WORKING. 
          WE SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS AND WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS HERE IN MARKET. 
          SO REALLY HAVING THE ABILITY TO BRING FORWARD ACQUISITION FOUR RALLY. 
          THESE ARE LARGER TYPES OF SITES AS YOU CAN SEE. 
          SO WE'RE REQUESTING 45, UH, SORRY, $46.5 MILLION TO ACQUIRE A SMALLER NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE LARGER. 
          THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS. 
          WE WOULD LOOK, UH, TO SECURE AS GAP FINANCING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN THESE PROJECTS WITH OUR, OUR MARKET HERE. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT ALREADY EXIST, UH, AND THE DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR GRANTS SUPPORT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN CREATIVES AND MARKET UNTIL WE HAVE MORE OF THESE LIVING UNITS AND WORKING UNITS IN PLAY. 
           OVERALL, OUR, A COMPLETE PHOTO OF THE PACKAGE HERE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS $259 MILLION. 
          WE WANTED TO SHOW VOTERS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS WE BELIEVE WE CAN ACHIEVE WITH THOSE FUNDS AND WHAT IT DOES LONG TERM FOR BEING ABLE TO NOT JUST PROVIDE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND OUTCOMES THAT ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED NOW, BUT IN THE LONG TERM CREATING ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHICH THEN RETURNS MORE, UH, FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK. 
          259 MILLION SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO I WANNA PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT BY LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY'VE APPROVED. 
          CHICAGO GETS A GOLD STAR HERE. 
          UH, IT'S A $1.25 BILLION PACKAGE THEY APPROVED IN 2024. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF SIMILAR ELEMENTS AROUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CULTURAL AND CREATIVE SPACES THREADED THROUGHOUT THEIR PACKAGE. 
          BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS THOSE TS DISTRICTS THAT I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, THOSE ARE ALL STARTING TO SUNSET. 
          SO AS THOSE TOURS DISTRICT SUNSETS, UH, THIS TAX RATE WILL THEN INCREASE AND VOTERS WON'T NECESSARILY SEE A DIFFERENCE. 
          BUT WHAT'S REALLY GREAT IS THEY WERE ABLE TO TURN INWARD AND LOOK AT THE PROGRAMMING THAT THEY ALREADY OFFER AND DORMANT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS OR, OR BE ABLE TO FOCUS A NUMBER OF THEIR PROGRAMS. SO THEY'RE BRINGING $3 BILLION WORTH OF ACTIVITY FOCUSED ON THESE AREAS THAT WERE VOTED, UH, APPROVED BY VOTERS. 
          SO IT, IT, IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE A COST COMPETITIVE WAY OF DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK. 
          DALLAS, WE LOOKED AT WHAT IT IS THEY WERE DOING OVER 2024. 
          THEY APPROVED A SIMILAR SIZE PACKAGE FOR A LOT OF THE SAME NEEDS. 
          PHILADELPHIA I PUT IN HERE BECAUSE, UH, PHILADELPHIA HAS A LONGSTANDING AGENCY LIKE RALLY AUSTIN. 
          IN FACT, WE WERE MODELED MUCH LIKE THE PHILADELPHIA INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 70 YEARS NOW. 
          SO THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD STRONG CAPACITY WITHIN THAT ORGANIZATION. 
          AND BIG PICTURE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO WITH THIS RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY IN 2020. 
          AS COVID WAS IMPACTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SMALL BUSINESSES AND A NUMBER OF OTHER NEEDS, THEY WERE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY TASK PIDC WITH ISSUING $400 MILLION OF DEBT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF NEEDS. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A BOND, UH, ELECTION TO COME IN. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET VOTERS TO COME OUT WEARING MASKS AND ALL THIS WORK. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO TURN TO THEIR PARTNER WHO WAS ABLE TO SUPPORT VERY QUICKLY IN AN EMERGENCY SETTING FINANCING, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH BUILDING THE CAPACITY OF RALLY SO WE CAN IMMEDIATELY EXECUTE AROUND THE NEEDS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING, BUT WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT IT'S CURRENTLY IN, WE WE LOSE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          I JUST WANTED TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU PROCESS, BECAUSE IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT PROCESS IN EVALUATING EACH OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST. 
          UH, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO LEAVE INFORMATION WITH YOU THAT SHOWS NOT ONLY WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED, BUT HOW WE HAVE EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS WITH SOME OF THESE MAIN PROJECTS THAT WE'VE INITIALLY STARTED WITH. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, AND HAPPY TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOROUGH, UM, UH, INFORMATION. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, SMALL. 
          OH, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I WAS JUST BRUSHING MY HAIR OUTTA MY FACE, BUT SINCE YOU CALLED ME, I'LL ASK MY QUESTION NOW. 
          UM, SO THE, CAN YOU REVIEW WHAT THE PROCESS IS NOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU THINK IS A REASONABLE ASK FOR THE BOND ELECTION IN 2026? LIKE, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? UM, 
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I KNOW THAT THIS, LIKE, WHERE ARE Y'ALL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE, UM, SIGN OFF FROM THE COMMITTEE? CAN, CAN YOU JUST REVIEW? SURE. 
          WE, WE DID HEAR ABOUT THE TOTAL PROCESS LAST MONTH, BUT JUST TO REVIEW SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT THE TIMELINE IS AND WHAT OTHER STEPS HAPPEN IN THE PROCESS. 
          AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY SUPPORT OR WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM, UM, THE COM ARTS COMMISSION AND, AND OTHERS, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY ADVOCATE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS, PARTICULARLY FOR THE CULTURAL TRUST. 
          YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, SO OUR ROLE, WE, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ADVOCATE, RIGHT? WE CAN INFORM THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE BUILT THIS PROPOSAL SO THAT WE CAN BE SURE TO TRY OUR BEST IN MAKING SURE THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED WITHIN THIS LONG-TERM DISCUSSION FOR, UH, FOCUS ON NOVEMBER, 2026. 
          UH, THAT SAID, WE'VE PRESENTED AT A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONS. 
          WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTING TO BE A PART OF WORKING GROUP DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE INVITED INTO THOSE WORKING GROUP DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH ANYONE, UH,  WHO, WHO'S A PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR THE ASSETS WORKING GROUP, UH, WE SURE WOULD LIKE TO GET CALLED ON TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT CAPACITY BUILDING AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR BEING ABLE TO INDEPENDENTLY AND SUSTAINABLY DO THIS TYPE OF WORK IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, SO, SO, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING GROUP PROCESS IS TAKING PLACE. 
          THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME PROCESS THAT CITY STAFF IS GOING TO BE CONDUCTING FOR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OR WHEN, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY WOULD BE REACHING BACK OUT TO YOU FOR, FOR DISTRIBUTION OF INFORMATION. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COME MAY, 2026 B TIFF WILL HAVE RECONVENED AND THEY WILL BE PUTTING FORWARD THEIR RECOMMENDATION. 
          NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EMAIL THAT I PROVIDED FOR INTRODUCTORY INFORMATION, YOU'LL FIND A VERY LONG LIST OF CITY PROPOSALS AND CITY PROJECTS, AND THEN YOU'LL FIND A SECOND EQUALLY AS LONG LIST FROM COMMUNITY PROJECTS BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF CREATIVE SPACES, UH, AND INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE BTIF MEETINGS, UH, TO UTILIZE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AS A FORUM FOR DISCUSSING THE NEEDS OF THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY OVERALL AND THEN SPECIFICALLY FOR THEIR PROJECTS. 
          SO IN TERMS OF ENGAGING, UM, I THINK THAT IS STILL A PRODUCTIVE SPACE WHERE B TIFF CAN HEAR THIS IS, UH, A NEED. 
          UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IN WITH A WORKING GROUP. 
          WE HAVE ALSO BEEN REQUESTING TO MEET WITH THE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH IS A PORTION OF COUNCIL THAT WILL BE CONVENING IN NOVEMBER AND JANUARY, UM, OF THIS, THIS COMING YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE TRYING TO PLUG IN AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, LEADERSHIP IS AWARE OF WHAT IT IS WE'VE PROPOSED, UM, SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS AND BUILD A REALLY STRONG PROPOSAL AS REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY AND OUR NEEDS. 
          IS THAT HELPFUL OR? YEAH, IT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND JUST A FOLLOW UP, UH, IS, UM, LET'S SEE. 
          UM, COULD YOU ALSO, AND THIS MAYBE DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANSWERED NOW, BUT I THINK FOR OUR PURPOSES, SOMETIMES IT'S HELPFUL TO, UM, TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE LIKE WHAT'S AT STAKE IF WE DON'T, YOU, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW RALLIES WORK WILL BE HINDERED. 
          'CAUSE WE UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR PRESENTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THIS TYPE OF CAPACITY THAT WE SEE IN PLACES LIKE SAN FRANCISCO AND PHILADELPHIA IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME. 
          AND I THINK, NOT TO FOCUS ON THE NEGATIVE, BUT IN SOMETIMES IT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE CHALLENGE BY HELPING US ARTICULATE LIKE WHAT MIGHT BE LOST IF YOU, I THINK WE HEARD IN OUR LAST MEETING, UM, THAT THIS LIKE RALLY REALLY IS THE BEST CHANCE FOR STRONG REPRESENTATION OF CULTURAL PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THAT ARE CITY OWNED PROJECTS FOR THE BOND ELECTION SINCE THERE IS SO MUCH NEED AND IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH CHOICES BEING MADE. 
          SO I GUESS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU COULD HELP EQUIP US, UM, SO THAT WE CAN ADVOCATE WHERE WE CAN  WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SPACE TO DO SO, UM, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO, FOR US FOR, FOR THIS PACKAGE TO MAKE IT INTO THE ULTIMATELY TO, TO THE ELECTION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. 
          THAT WAS A LITTLE MUDDLED, BUT WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL FOR US. 
          APOLOGIES FOR SPEAKING OVER YOU. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WE'VE MET WITH, WITH THE COMMISSIONS, OF COURSE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR NEXT STEPS, UH, AS I MENTIONED IN MY PREVIOUS EMAIL, WE'RE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING A NEW WEBSITE. 
          YOU'LL FIND A PAGE DEDICATED, UH, TO THIS INFORMATION. 
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SO IT'S A SPACE YOU CAN COLLECT THINGS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE MATERIALS AVAILABLE FOR, FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO USE AS THEY MOBILIZE. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S HOW THE RALLY STARTED. 
          AND AT SOME POINT, THE COMMUNITY BECOMES BIGGER THAN THE CITY, RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S HOW REAL CHANGE OCCURS. 
          SO WHILE WE CAN'T ADVOCATE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. 
          UH, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THE SEPARATE PROPOSAL. 
          I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COMMISSIONER HUSSEI AND COMMISSIONER MALDONADO ARE BOTH ON THE DAAS. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT IN ADDITION TO THE ARTS COMMISSION AND, UH, THE ENTIRE ARTS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SO BEHIND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THAT YOU UTILIZE, UH, THE CULTURAL TRUST ADVISORY COMMITTEE RATHER THAN DISBAND IT EVEN TEMPORARILY OR PAUSE IT OR WHATEVER. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE, UH, MORE ACTIVE THAN EVER ACTUALLY, AND UTILIZE, UH, NOT ONLY TO KIND OF PROMOTE AND, UH, CREATE EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE BOND, UH, POSSIBILITIES, BUT ALSO TO, UM, PUSH THROUGH WHAT'S REMAINING TO BE DONE BEFORE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ANDERSON FOR SERVING ON THAT. 
          UM, THAT, UH, COUNSEL AND, AND I WANT TO REITERATE, WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO DISBAND, UH, THE WORK FOR THE CULTURAL TRUST ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          WE NEED, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SKILL SETS AND TALENT AND, AND INFORMATION THAT COMES IN THROUGH THAT BODY, UH, INSTRUMENTAL IN THE WORK FOR CREATING THE CULTURAL TRUST AND, AND HOW IT'S BEEN ABLE TO, TO MOBILIZE AROUND PROCESS TO DATE. 
          UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE THOSE EXPERTISE INTO NEW SPACES, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH CTAC AND KEEP IT VERY MUCH ALIVE, UH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          WE'RE SEEKING TO ACQUIRE SPACES, WE'RE SEEKING TO WORK IN MORE OF AN EXPANDED FASHION. 
          WE KNOW NOW MORE THAN EVER, THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST AND EVERYTHING THAT CTAC HELP US TO BUILD, UH, ALONG THE FIRST ROUND OF, YOU KNOW, THE CULTURAL TRUST. 
          SO WE ABSOLUTELY STAND COMMITTED TO  USING OUR VOLUNTEERS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. 
          UM, JUST FROM WHAT I'M HEARING AT, AT, AT THIS MOMENT WITH WHAT THE, WHAT RALLY CURRENTLY HAS, IS THERE, UM, UH, A CLOCK TICKING ON STAFF FUNDING? AND WILL THIS BOND EXTEND STAFF FUNDING? THERE? THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS SET ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM ONGOING. 
          UM, BUT THIS, THE PROGRAMMING VIA THE BOND IS SEPARATE FROM OUR OPERATIONAL FUNDING AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO SUPPORT THE CULTURAL TRUST. 
          SO OPERA, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT OPERATIONAL FUNDS. 
          IS THERE A CLOCK ON THE OPERATIONAL FUNDS OR, OR IS IT FUNDED AS LONG AS RALLY HAS WORKED? I'LL, I'LL TAKE THAT. 
          THE ALVAREZ, CEO OF, OF RALLY AUSTIN. 
          SO THE, UM, EACH YEAR WE BECOME LESS DEPENDENT ON THE CITY FOR OUR OPERATIONAL DOLLARS. 
          SO I WOULD NOT SAY THERE'S A, A CLOCK TICKING. 
          UM, HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR LAST AUDIT, WE WERE ABOUT 80% DEPENDENT ON THE CITY. 
          SO, I MEAN, IN A WAY YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE STILL A STARTUP ORGANIZATION, BUT, BUT THE $12 MILLION BOND FUND AND THE ICONIC VENUE FUND, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THOSE GO TO WHERE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          SO WE, WE ARE KEEPING THE OPERATION DOLLAR SEPARATE. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE A NEW CONTRACT WITH A ISD, SO WE'RE DIVERSIFYING WE'LL BE LESS THAN 80%. 
          UM, WE JUST FINISHED OUR FISCAL YEAR, SAME AS THE CITY, UM, SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          SO WE'RE BECOMING LESS DEPENDENT ON THE CITY EVERY YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ARE THERE, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          DID YOU HAVE TIM BEEN ON THE CALL UP ON THAT NEW CONTRACT WITH A SD ? THAT'S GREAT NEWS. 
          DO TELL, THAT'S WONDERFUL NEWS. 
          UM, HOW MANY OUTSTANDING PROJECTS ARE INCOMPLETE? INCOMPLETE? WELL, AS OF RIGHT NOW, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE, UM, INCOMPLETE, BECAUSE EACH OF THESE PROJECTS REQUIRES A NUMBER OF LEGAL AGREEMENTS. 
          SO THERE'S, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, I DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. 
          BUT THERE'S, EACH OF THESE PROJECTS IS IN DIFFERENT STAGES OF LEGAL AGREEMENTS. 
          AND I WANNA ALSO SHARE THAT BECAUSE OF THE SOURCES OF THE FUNDS, THESE HAVE 20 AND 40 YEAR AGREEMENTS IN PLACE FOR THE, THE SEVEN PROJECTS THAT YOU SAW LISTED OUT. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES TO THESE PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT 20 AND 40 YEARS, DEPENDING ON IF IT'S BOND FUNDS, THAT'S 40 YEARS. 
          AND IF IT'S FROM THE ICONIC VENUE FUND IS A MIX OF GENERAL AND HOT DOLLARS, THERE'S 20 YEAR AGREEMENTS IN PLACE. 
          SO WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE DUTY FOR THE NEXT 20 AND 40 YEARS TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THE MILLENNIUM YOUTH ENTERTAINMENT 
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COMPLEX ONE OF YOUR PROJECTS? IT IS. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE ONLY THING HOLDING UP COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT IS THE ORDERING OF THE THEATER SEATS. 
          CORRECT. 
          HOW CAN WE GET THAT DONE? UM, SO AS OF FRIDAY, I, UM, CHECKED IN WITH ACME TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO TO HELP US ON THAT. 
          UM, THERE WAS A MEMO THAT CAME OUT, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE THAT SAID THAT THOSE SEATS WERE BEING ORDERED IN, UH, SUMMER OF 2026. 
          AND WE SAID, THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE, AND CAN WE PLEASE, CAN WE PLEASE PRIORITIZE THAT? SO, UM, CITY, WE'VE ASKED CITY STAFF TO, TO PRIORITIZE THOSE DOLLARS WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN 20, AT THE DECEMBER, 2022, IT TOOK US NINE MONTHS TO GET THE LEGAL AGREEMENTS IN PLACE. 
          SO THOSE HAVE BEEN SIGNED BY RALLY AND THE CITY. 
          UM, SO THAT TOOK NINE MONTHS. 
          THAT PUTS US INTO 2023. 
          THE DOLLARS BEGAN TO BE SPENT IN 2024, BUT HERE WE ARE IN 2025, AND THE LAST PIECE OF THAT IS THE, THE SEATS. 
          AND WE WERE TOLD THOSE WERE GONNA BE PURCHASED THIS SUMMER, AND IT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK A YEAR. 
          AND I'M NOT REALLY, I DON'T, I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE CITY ON WHY, BUT WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH BOTH THE, UM, WELL ACME TO TALK ABOUT WHY, HOW CAN THEY HELP US PUSH THAT FORWARD. 
          AND SO, UH, DIRECTOR MEANS, AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, UM, CANDACE COOPER ARE LOOKING INTO THAT AS OF FRIDAY. 
          THEY SAID THEY WERE TRYING TO FIND OUT SOMETHING FOR ME. 
          I WAS HOPING TO HAVE AN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT I DON'T. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL, I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, QUESTION ABOUT, IS THE OLD CITY HALL ONE OF THE CULTURAL TRUST PRODUCTS? NOT ON THE SEVEN THAT WE'VE LISTED. 
          THERE WAS A 2022 COUNCIL RESOLUTION, UH, DIRECTING RALLY TO LOOK AT THAT SITE. 
          AND WE HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK. 
          I'M STILL MEETING WITH CITY STAFF ON THAT, BUT THERE'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY. 
          NONE OF THE 20 $18 HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THAT FOR THE, UH, WEST EIGHTH, THE OLD CITY HALL. 
          HOWEVER, WE, WE WOULD STILL LOVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. 
          AND WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO TALK TO CITY STAFF ABOUT HOW, HOW WE CAN DO THAT. 
          SO THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE EIGHT TO 10 ACQUISITIONS. 
          IT COULD BE, OR, OR IT COULD BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE CITY FOR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE OR NOT TRANSFERRED. 
          I, I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF EVALUATING THE SITE MORE IN DEPTH FOR FULL USE FOR CREATIVE SPACE OR OTHER COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS, AS YOU KNOW, UH, ARTICULATED BY THE COMMUNITY ITSELF. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION FOR ASSESSING THE SITE AND, AND ITS UTILIZATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR MONEY TO ACQUIRE SITES, BUT YOU MIGHT NOT BE DOING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ON THOSE SITES, WHAT IS THE POINT OF ACQUIRING PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RENOVATE? YEAH, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THESE IS A UNIQUE SITUATION, RIGHT? UH, WE, WE MAY, IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S THE NEXT SPACE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GO INTO. 
          IT'S WHAT WE WERE INITIALLY EXPLORING THROUGH THE, THE, THE FIRST RFP OF THE CULTURAL TRUST. 
          IT'S JUST THOSE, WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF INTEREST WITHIN THAT SPACE OR SEE THE, THE CONNECTIONS THERE. 
          THERE'S TRUST BUILDING, RIGHT? AND WE WERE A NEW AGENCY AT THE TIME, SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT BEING MORE PROACTIVE WITHIN THE SPACE OF FINDING THE AREAS THAT WE CAN ACQUIRE, AGAIN, PUTS US IN MORE CONTROL. 
          AND IT SEEDS THE ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE FINANCIALLY IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO IT, IT MAY BE THAT WE DO INVEST IN THOSE SITES. 
          UM, IT MAY BE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO INVEST IN THOSE SITES BECAUSE THE USER IN THAT SPACE IS USING IT AND IT'S PERFECTLY FINE IN GREAT CONDITION. 
          UM, IT MEETS THEIR NEEDS, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE, UH, AND THEN THAT HELPS TO SUPPORT THEIR AFFORDABILITY ON THE SITE. 
          UH, WE WOULD WORK THROUGH WHATEVER TYPES OF AGREEMENTS NECESSARY JUST TO, TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE SPACES. 
          AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT AS WE ACQUIRE, AS WE ACQUIRE PROPERTIES, THAT GIVES RALLY THE ABILITY TO BE FINANCIALLY GIVES OUR ASSET, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BALANCE SHEET ASSETS FOR US TO, UM, ISSUE DEBT AGAINST. 
          'CAUSE IT GOES AGAINST YOUR BOTTOM LINE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO, SO IF WE'RE GONNA BE USED AS A FINANCIAL TOOL, AS WE SHOULD BE, AND AS THE OTHER CITIES THAT DAVID MENTIONED AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THE MORE FINANCIALLY SOUND WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO BE A BETTER FINANCIAL TOOL FOR THESE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND THEATERS AND ALL, ALL THE APPLICANTS, THE OVER 50 THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE, WE CAN BETTER SERVE THE CITY IN MULTIPLE CAPACITIES. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR PRESENTERS FROM RALLY? UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS? UM, SO YOU HAVE ACQUIRED THE MILLENNIUM, WAS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD? NO, WE'VE ACQUIRED, WE'VE TRIED TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THE PROPERTIES. 
          WE HAVE NOT ACQUIRED ANY TO, TO DATE. 
          UM, MILLENNIUMS IS A CITY FACILITY AND IT REMAINS THAT WAY. 
          WE JUST MADE AN INVESTMENT OF THE 2018 BONDS. 
          WE MADE AN INVESTMENT INTO THE MILLENNIUM. 
          [00:55:02]
SO THE SEATS ARE FROM, THE SEAT COSTS ARE RELATED TO THE 2018 BOND. 
          THE MONEY USED TO BUY THOSE SEATS, AND THEY'VE USED SOME OF THE MONEY TO DO UPGRADES TO THE THEATER. 
          THE LAST THING REMAINING THAT, UM, CHAIR HOUSTON MENTIONED IS TO PURCHASE THOSE SEATS, UM, TO, TO, FOR THAT ONE TO BE COMPLETE. 
          WELL GOTCHA. 
          COMPLETE WITH A 20 YEAR OR 40 YEAR AGREEMENT IN PLACE. 
          SO IS THERE ALSO A PLAN TO ACTIVATE THE SPACE? IS THERE A PLAN TO EVALUATE THE UTILIZATION OF IT, THE COST OF IT, UM, COMPARABLE TO OTHER, UM, RECREATION CENTERS AND FACILITIES THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS? YES, AND I WANNA GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO KIM WRIGHT, WHO'S RUNNING THAT THEATER AND HAS AN AMAZING BACKGROUND IN RUNNING VENUE SPACES, PRIVATE VENUE SPACES. 
          UM, HER TEAM AND OUR TEAM HAVE WORKED TOGETHER. 
          UM, SHE HAS A PLAN FOR THAT. 
          AND SO YES, THAT, THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO, TO BETTER ACTIVATE AND, AND HAVE THAT SPACE USED ON A MORE FREQUENT BASIS THAN IT CURRENTLY IS. 
          AND IS KIM WRIGHT WHO'S CURRENTLY BEEN MANAGING IT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE, SO WHAT CHANGED BECAUSE, UM, I'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR, FOR THE LAST FIVE, SIX YEARS, AND THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AND EXTREMELY OVERPRICED FOR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SO I'M WONDERING WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THEM SINCE SIXTH GRADE ATTENDING AND THEN ACTIVATING IN THE SPACE AND GETTING, UM, MONEY DONATED TO THE SPACE, UM, FROM LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS JUST FOR THEM TO BE PRICED OUT OF IT. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE STRATEGY IS OF HOW TO ACTUALLY ACTIVATE IT AND BRING PEOPLE BACK IN THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          LET ME REACH OUT TO KIM AND GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WHAT IT IS YOU JUST ARTICULATED IS THE TOPIC OF FOCUS FOR PHASE TWO OF THE CREATIVE RESET, RIGHT? LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMMING WITHIN THESE PUBLIC SPACES, NOT JUST THE MILLENNIUM, BUT OTHERS THAT ARE NOW BEING BROUGHT. 
          UH, I THINK THERE'S LIKE 13 TO TO 15 MAYBE, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT ARE COMING UNDER ACME'S PURVIEW. 
          UH, SO WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH ACME, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO SUPPORT THEM HOWEVER WE CAN, UH, TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT SPACE OF EXPERTISE, BUT ALSO TO THINK MORE STRATEGICALLY ABOUT HOW IT IS WE CAN BEST UTILIZE THESE SPACES. 
          MAYBE HAVING CREATIVE CENTERS OF EXCELLENCE, UH, SO THAT OH, PLEASE SUPPORT, OH, I ACTUALLY SENT THE DOCUMENT OVER TO, UM, DIRECTOR MEANS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO MM-HMM . 
          THAT HAD MAYBE 20 DIFFERENT IDEAS OF HOW THE SPACE COULD BE UTILIZED. 
          I'D LOVE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS WELL. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK IT COULD BE USED A LOT BETTER, UM, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ANY, LIKE, I'VE HAD LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS COME TO ME BECAUSE THEY'VE KNOWN, I BROUGHT OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO AFFORD IT AND THEY'VE SINCE BEEN, UM, PRICED OUT AS WELL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LOOKING INTO THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          UM, YEAH, I, I WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY BASED ON THAT COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER KEYS IN THE, I GUESS THE EARLY PIPELINE DAYS OF THE, THE CULTURAL TRUST, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO ENSURE THAT THE SPACE IS THAT OUR FUNDED BY THE TRUST ARE TRULY AFFORDABLE. 
          AND A AND A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, PARTNERSHIPS BEING KIND OF PART OF THE CONTRACT RESIDENT COMPANIES BEING PART OF THE CONTRACT MM-HMM . 
          OR A REQUIREMENT AT LEAST THAT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE STAGE TIME OR PROGRAMMING TIME BE ALLOCATED AT A BELOW MARKET RATE TO COMMUNITY GROUPS, ET CETERA. 
          AND I JUST WONDER IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS EVER BECAME POLICY IN ANY OF THE CONTRACTS AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU FOUND UNENFORCEABLE, MAYBE OR IMPOSSIBLE TO WRITE INTO ONE OF THOSE LEGAL AGREEMENTS THAT IS COSTING YOU ALL THAT MONEY ON LAWYERS , OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW, HOW DID THAT EVER WORK OUT? BECAUSE IT IS GONNA BE A LITTLE SILLY IF WE END UP WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE PLACES THAT NO ONE CAN AFFORD TO RENT. 
          IT'S GONNA BE LIKE HAVING LOTS OF LITTLE MINI LONG CENTERS ALL AROUND. 
          AUSTIN, THANK YOU. 
          NO, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, I, I DO THINK WE WERE TOLD THAT COULD NOT BE WRITTEN INTO LEGAL AGREEMENTS, AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA CHANGE OVER 20 AND 40 YEARS, RIGHT? OF WHAT'S AFFORDABLE. 
          UM, I DO THINK WE NEED TO, I MEAN, THAT MIGHT BE ONE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO START BACK WITH THE CULTURAL TRUST ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE RATES AND WHAT'S AFFORDABLE AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DEFINE AS AFFORDABLE? 'CAUSE I THINK THAT DEFINITION VARIES FROM EVEN ARTISTIC GENRE TO ARTISTIC GENRE. 
          UM, SO THAT IS A CO A CONVERSATION WE NEED, UM, TO CONTINUE FOR SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT, IT ALSO HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE SOURCE OF FUNDS AS WELL. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WHAT IT IS YOU'RE ABLE TO FEASIBLY NEGOTIATE WITH THOSE FUNDS. 
          I THINK WE ALL KNOW IT'S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER PROJECTS WITH BOND DOLLARS. 
          UH, BEYOND THAT, WE ARE NOW MUCH BETTER AWARE OF WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO BE REQUESTING 
          [01:00:01]
ON THE COMMUNITY'S BEHALF FOR THE BEST STRUCTURE OF DEBT THAT WOULD BE COMING FROM THE CITY. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF BONDS. 
          UH, SOME ARE TAXABLE, SOME ARE NON-TAXABLE. 
          THEY ALL CREATE DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES FOR STRUCTURING THESE DEALS THAT WE THEN WERE GETTING INTO BEHIND THE SCENES, RIGHT? OR, OR AFTER IT IS, WE ALREADY HAD THE FUNDING SECURED. 
          SO THERE WERE A LOT OF LIKE WORKING THROUGH THE ARRANGEMENTS, THE SOURCE AND USE OF FUNDS WHILE WE ALREADY HAD THE RFP AND THE, THE, THE RESPONSES COMING IN. 
          AND THEN WITH SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS JUST WITHIN THE MARKET AS WELL. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, AND CERTAINLY WE'LL SEE THAT REFLECTED AS WE TURN TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN ACQUIRING SITES AND HAVING CONTROL OF THOSE SITES OURSELVES. 
          AND MY LAST QUESTION, I JUST, I JUST OCCURRED TO ME, WHAT IS THE HANGUP WITH THE RUDE ME IN THAT PROPERTY ON MIDDLE FISHVILLE? SO THAT PROPERTY REQUIRES, BECAUSE THE CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY AS WELL, SO THAT REQUIRES A SUBLEASE TO RALLY AND THEN, UH, OR A LEASE, I'M SORRY, A LEASE FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO RALLY AND THEN RALLY WOULD HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND SUBLEASE TO RU MAX. 
          AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET THE LEASE FINALIZED. 
          SO THAT, THAT HAS PREVENTED US FROM GOING INTO THE SUBLEASE WITH RU MAX. 
          SO THE LEASE BETWEEN THE CITY AND RALLY HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND TERESA, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE, AS CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY CAN DO TO HELP BRING ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN YOUR WAY? WE WANT NAMES OF THE STAFFERS OR WHOEVER IS IN YOUR WAY SO THAT WE CAN TALK LOUDLY ABOUT THEM IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY FEEL  INSPIRED TO PUSH YOUR PROJECT TO COMPLETION. 
          ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? CAN WE DO THAT? CAN YOU DO WHAT REACH OUT TO CAN, CAN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ROADBLOCKS ARE AND HELP BE REALLY LOUD TO HELP GET THEM OUT OF THE WAY? I, I THINK BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE CITY HAS DONE THIS, HAS MADE IT, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TIME YOU DO SOMETHING, IT'S THE HARDEST, RIGHT? SO MY, MY HOPE IS ONCE WE HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE PROVEN THAT THESE PROJECTS CAN BE DONE, WHICH ORIGINALLY WE WERE TOLD MANY OF THESE COULDN'T BE DONE, RIGHT? SO WE'VE HAD TO PROVE OURSELVES AND SAY, NO, THIS IS, THIS AGREEMENT CAN BE STRUCTURED THIS WAY. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, SO IT, THE INITIALLY, THESE HAVE TAKEN MUCH LONGER THAN I WOULD'VE HOPED, MORE THAN I'M SURE YOU ALL WOULD'VE LIKED. 
          I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY, UH, SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THE 2018 BONDS AND GETTING THOSE ON THE BALLOT. 
          UM, SO MY HOPE IS THAT GETTING THROUGH THESE FIRST TYPES OF PROJECTS, AND ONE THING THAT WE DID IS REALLY CATER TO EACH TYPE OF ORGANIZATION AND NOT SAY, WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS AND EVERYBODY HAS TO FIT INTO THIS BOX. 
          WE REALLY TRIED TO RESPOND TO OUR CREATIVE COMMUNITY IN A CREATIVE WAY AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA RESPOND TO YOUR NEED AND STRUCTURE THIS. 
          SO THE ROOT MAX DEAL AT PDC ON CITY PROPERTY LOOKS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN MILLENNIUM, THAN HOLE IN THE WALL AND, AND WHATNOT. 
          SO THEY'RE, SO, THEY'RE ALL VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEYS AND OUR ATTORNEYS ARE LIKE, WAIT, THIS, THEY DON'T HAVE A TEMPLATE TO GO OFF OF MM-HMM . 
          AND I THINK WITH THE 2026 BONDS, WE NOW KNOW WHAT WORKED AND WHAT HASN'T. 
          AND, AND THOSE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN CREATED. 
          WELL, WE'RE CLOSE TO, WE DON'T HAVE THE LEASE YET, AS, AS, UM, CHAIR HOUSTON JUST MENTIONED, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT'S COMING VERY SOON. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, CITY STAFF IS, WANTS US TO GET THERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VELA, WHO THAT IS IN HIS DISTRICT, HE'S, HE'S ASKING WHAT HE CAN DO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE REALLY HAVE RALLIED AROUND  THESE PROJECTS TO SAY, HOW DO, AND I HEAR YOU IN THAT QUESTION, BEING SUPPORTIVE OF, TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU WITH THESE YEAH. 
          ROADBLOCKS MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND IF I, UM, KNEW WHAT YOU COULD DO RIGHT NOW TO, I WOULD'VE ALREADY DONE IT. 
          YES. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF I HAD THE ANSWER TO THAT, UM, I, I WOULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, WELL, I HAVE ONE REQUEST AND I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN TAKE OUR VISION FOR BEING A FINANCING PARTNER TO THE, TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          RIGHT? AND, AND THAT LONG-TERM PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD BY HAVING CAPACITY UNDER RALLY, IF YOU CAN HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND TURN THEM TO US SO WE CAN HELP TO LIKE BUILD A CHAMPION OUT OF THEM, THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S NECESSARY. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE, WE ARE POSING A NEW WAY OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE SAME OLD RESOURCES, RIGHT? UH, AND THAT MEANS A LOT TO VOTERS RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY, UH, AS WE'RE ALL GRAPPLING WITH THIS IS A PLACE THAT'S INEXPENSIVE TO LIVE AND WORK. 
          UM, AND HOW IT IS RALLY CAN TAKE THOSE RESOURCES AND CREATE ECONOMIC BENEFIT. 
          REDUCING BURDEN ON THE CITY IS SIGNIFICANT, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GETTING THE, THE ATTENTION IT NEEDS. 
          [01:05:01]
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY. 
          WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, RIGHT? UM, I THINK WE NEED HELP ARTICULATING THE LONG-TERM VISION AND WHY IT'S, IT'S NECESSARY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, I REACHED OUT TO MY COUNCIL PERSON THIS WEEK AND SAID, HERE'S ONE PROBLEM. 
          CAN YOU AIM SOMETHING AT IT? RIGHT. 
          THE CHAIRS RIGHT. 
          SO MY HOPE IS THAT THE MORE SPECIFICS WE CAN KNOW, THE MORE WE CAN HELP BY TALKING TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, BY TALKING TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE STAY IN TOUCH WITH US. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER ZIMAN. 
          THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN ON THIS TOPIC FOR A BIT, SO I DON'T, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE TO GO TO, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE RECENT PARTNERSHIP WITH A ISD AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, OR WHAT YOU'RE ENVISIONING FOR THAT? UM, SO YES, VERY BRIEFLY. 
          A ISD SITS ON OUR BOARD, LIKE ARTS COMMISSION NOMINEE DOES. 
          AND, UM, THEY HAVE TWO SITES, UM, THAT IT'S A REAL ESTATE SITE ASSESSMENT. 
          SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT, UH, TWO SITES. 
          ONE IS DELCO IN EAST AUSTIN AND ONE IS BURGER IN SOUTH AUSTIN. 
          AND JUST DOING A SITE ASSESSMENT. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, SPEAKING WITH INTERNAL A ISD OF WHAT'S WORKING IN THOSE SITES, WHAT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT SELLING THE LAND, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT TO SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEEDS THAT A ISD HAS. 
          WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THOSE SITES OR NOT. 
          IT'S JUST, AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE ON THE LAND. 
          I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE, UH, BOTH OF THOSE SITES ARE, ARE QUITE LARGE. 
          NOT, NOT THE FACILITIES THEMSELVES THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED BY A ID BUT THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF LAND AROUND THERE. 
          SO WE'RE JUST DOING A SIMPLE SITE ASSESSMENT. 
          THEY HAVE THEIR HANDS VERY FULL RIGHT NOW WITH OTHER, UM, ISSUES GOING ON. 
          , THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I THINK COMMISSIONER KEYS HAD HER HAND UP IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          COMMISSIONER KEYS, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HELPING OUT IN EVALUATING THOSE CENTERS AND FACILITIES BECAUSE I THINK THE ISSUE HAS BEEN, HISTORICALLY WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE OPEN TO DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY, BUT I THINK IN EVALUATING THAT IT ALMOST GIVES YOU LIKE A TIERED SYSTEM OF WHAT THINGS CAN COST OR, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF HELPING YOU GET THAT ROADMAP. 
          BUT I ALSO REALLY, REALLY, REALLY ENCOURAGE CAPACITY BUILDING. 
          UM, THERE WERE JUST TWO PEOPLE WHO SPOKE BEFORE WHO TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITIES. 
          I USED TO MANAGE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE FACILITY AS, AS ONE AND A HALF EMPLOYEES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE HAD MISS, UM, WE HAD AN ASSISTANT AS WELL WHO WAS PART-TIME RETIRED AND CAME BACK. 
          AND THAT WAS FOR TWO YEARS THAT I WAS THERE BEFORE IT WAS ONLY ONE EMPLOYEE. 
          AND SO I DON'T, I REALLY WANT US TO CONSIDER AS WE ARE DOING THIS AND AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE LARGE SCALE FACILITIES, THE CAPACITY BUILDING OF WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE FOR PEOPLE TO BE IN AND, AND OPERATE IT, UM, WHEN THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IT. 
          THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. 
          AND NONE OF THE BOND DOLLARS CAN BE USED FOR OPERATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A ANOTHER ISSUE THAT ONCE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. 
          I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR TODAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOW MOVING ON TO 
          [12. Approve nomination to the Rally Austin Board]
ITEM NUMBER, NEW ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS APPROVE THE NOMINATION TO THE RALLY AUSTIN BOARD. 
          WE HAVE TWO NOMINEES. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO APPROVE THE NOMINATIONS, DO WE? WE GOT THOSE OVER EMAIL. 
          RIGHT? OKAY. 
          WE'VE GOT TWO NOMINATIONS, UH, FOR RALLY AUSTIN, KATHERINE MEEHAN AND SARAH VANDERBEEK. 
          HAVE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEIR BIOS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO, UH, CALL THE QUESTION, WE HAVE TWO NOMINATIONS FOR, UH, A BOARD MEMBER ARTS COMMISSION MEMBER TO THE RALLY AWESOME BOARD. 
          UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF SARAH VANDERBEEK, WOULD YOU INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND? WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. 
          THOSE IN FAVOR OF KATE MEHAN. 
          AND WE HAVE TWO, SO THAT'S GONNA BE SARAH VANDERBEEK WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE RALLY. 
          AUSTIN BOARD. 
          DOES THIS NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE NEED TO INITIATE THAT TO COUNCIL? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          WE, SO WE HAVE A, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, OUR LIAISON WE'RE, IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A DECEMBER 11TH COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM. 
          UM, SO THAT, AND THEN, YEAH, SO, SO YOU DON'T NEED TO INITIATE IT, BUT IT'S, YOU'RE, YOU VOTED ON THE NOMINEE COUNCIL VOTES ON THE, ON THE APPROVAL 
          [01:10:01]
TO OUR BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE JUST PUTTING FORTH THE NOMINATION. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? UH, THE COMMISSIONER SCHACH, JUST A LITTLE PLUG THAT BOTH OF THE CANDIDATES SEEMED REALLY GREAT AND WELL QUALIFIED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, RALLY AS YOU NEED NEW MEMBERS, MAYBE CONSIDER, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR NOMINEE THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE SHE ALSO SEEMED TO BE A REALLY WELL QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WHO WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO RALLY'S BOARD. 
          AGREED. 
          AND THANK Y'ALL FOR PUTTING SO MUCH, UH, TIME AND EFFORT INTO THOSE NOMINATIONS. 
          SO WE ARE DONE WITH YOU . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, NEXT WE'RE IN FOR, UH, NEW ITEM NUMBER FOUR, 
          [3. Presentation on Art for All by Raasin McIntosh, Founder & CEO, and Mike Kim, COO of Raasin in the Sun. ]
PRESENTATION ON ART FOR ALL BY RAISIN MACINTOSH, FOUNDER AND CEO. 
          AND MIKE KIM, COO OF RAISIN IN THE SUN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MISSION BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. 
          I AM SORRY. 
          BRAZEN. 
          YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OH GREAT. 
          THAT'S EVEN BETTER. 
          JUST MAKE IT GREEN. 
          ALRIGHT, AWESOME. 
          10 MINUTES WOULD BE FANTASTIC. 
          RAZOR, WE'RE GONNA WORK. 
          WE'RE GONNA WORK. 
          . 
          UM, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. 
          THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. 
          UM, THE CITY STAFF, UM, UH, SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO COMMISSIONER MALDONADO FOR GETTING US CONNECTED SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO REALLY JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THIS PILOT INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE ART FOR ALL, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY ASKING FOR MUCH. 
          WE JUST WANT TO INCLUDE YOU GUYS AND, AND SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN BE INFORMED AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, SUPPORT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIFE OR DEATH HERE. 
          IT'S JUST MAINLY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          UH, AND THIS IS JUST IN OUR, UM, IN OUR PATH TO DO THIS. 
          SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE US TODAY TO EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, ART FOR ALL, WHAT IS IT? UM, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE MIKE KIM. 
          CAN YOU SAY HI? HELLO, KRISTEN? YEAH, HE'S A LITTLE PLEASURE. 
          I'LL HAVE TO BE . 
          JUST YEAH, BEAR WITH HIM. 
          SO PART OF MY NEWBIE IS IF I DO THINGS, IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE I'M TRYING TO DO THINGS THAT ARE FROWNED UPON, BUT IT'S JUST MY NEWNESS. 
          SO, ALL GOOD. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE. 
          ART FOR ALL. 
          AT, AT THE CORE OF THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY, UM, UNHOUSED ASSISTANCE, UH, PAIRED WITH MURAL ARTISTS TO TRANSFORM THE PUBLIC CENTRAL PUBLIC LIBRARY GARAGE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S AT THE, AT THE VERY CORE OF IT. 
          UM, IT'S LOOKING TO IMMERSE ART WITH THE UNHOUSED AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN BECOME A SOLUTION WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, I WILL, I WILL GO MORE INTO DETAIL. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL TO GO INTO THAT, BUT I THINK, UM, BUILDING INCLUSIVE TRAUMA-INFORMED PROGRAMMING, UH, THAT SUPPORTS BOTH THOSE COMMUNITIES IS FOR ME, UM, LIFE WORK, RIGHT? THIS IS, THIS IS, I MEAN, WE HEAR SO MANY PEOPLE TALK OFTEN ABOUT THE UNHOUSED SITUATION, AND I DON'T HEAR A LOT OF CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          UM, I BELIEVE I KIND OF WROTE THIS VISION MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO, INSPIRED ALSO BY, UH, MURAL ARTS PHILADELPHIA. 
          I SPENT THREE YEARS IN THAT INSTITUTE, UH, LEARNING THE ADMIN, UH, COMPONENTS OF PUBLIC ART, UM, AND ON BOTH SIDES WITH THE COMMUNITY HOW TO ENGAGE, UH, IN THAT WAY. 
          WE, I GOT INSPIRED BY THE COLOR ME BACK PROGRAM, UM, AND THEN WAS ABLE TO CUSTOMIZE A VISION FOR AUSTIN. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS ABOUT. 
          SO, UM, THE ORGANIZATION RAISING IN THE SUN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRANSFORMING SPACES. 
          WE'RE A PLACEMAKING ORGANIZATION CULTURALLY, CREATIVELY, AND ON THE COMMUNAL LEVEL. 
          UM, AND I AM THE FOUNDER. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT MISSION FOR OUR FOR ALL, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WORK THAT WE DO ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. 
          THIS IS OUR TEAM CURRENTLY. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT MIKE KIM HERE, TIFFANY, THAT'S OVER PROJECT MANAGEMENT. 
          WE'VE GOT A WAY FINDING ARCHITECT, UH, NALA. 
          WE'VE GOT CODY AS A COPYWRITER. 
          CHRIS TOBAR IS A LOCAL ARTIST AND A GRAPHIC DESIGNER THAT DOES ALL OF OUR BRANDING. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A WEB DEVELOPER AS WELL, UH, JENNIFER. 
          SO THE ART FOR ALL VISION REALLY IS TO ENVISION A CITY WHERE EVERY SPACE REFLECTS SPIRIT. 
          UH, IT REFLECTS VIBRANCY, INCLUSIVENESS, AND ALIVE WITH CREATIVITY. 
          AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PRESENTATIONS TODAY THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, IS ALIVE WITH THAT VISION. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT. 
          WE ARE GONNA GO PRETTY FAST HERE. 
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YOU KEEP GOING. 
          SO THE ART FOR ALL VISION IS ENVISIONING MURALS, CREATIVE SPACES THAT GO BEYOND BEAUTIFICATION. 
          THIS IS MORE ABOUT CULTIVATING CONNECTION, REDUCING STIGMA, AND BUILDING TRUST ACROSS AUSTIN'S DIVERSE COMMUNITIES. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS, I'VE DONE THIS FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. 
          THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLE ON THE GROUND WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMBINE THE COMMUNITIES OF THE UNHOUSED AS WELL AS THE ARTIST COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. 
          SO WE ARE BOASTING, UM, A, A VERY STRONG LIST OF PARTNERS. 
          UM, WE'VE, UH, TOOK A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO TRY TO CURATE THIS. 
          WE COULDN'T IN INVOLVE EVERY SINGLE BODY WE WANTED TO. 
          WE, WE, WE WANTED TO DO THAT. 
          BUT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A, A HUGE AND STRONG PARTNERSHIP ON THE CREATIVE AND CULTURAL VISUAL SIDE, AS WELL AS THE UNHOUSED SIDE. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE OTHER ONES FOUNDATION, THE HUNGRY HILL FOUNDATION, CARITAS, UM, AND ART FROM THE STREETS THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY EVERY DAY FOR THE UNHOUSED, AS WELL AS CULTURAL, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE VISUAL ORGANIZATIONS, UH, UM, INCLUDING MOSQUE CURA, UH, THE CATHEDRAL OF COLOR, FUTURE FRONT RICHES ART GALLERY, THE MOSAIC. 
          UH, WE ARE POWERED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF ACME. 
          UH, SO THIS IS, UM, OUR LIST OF STRONG PARTNERS. 
          UH, WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM MONTHLY. 
          THEY ARE INFORMING AND GIVING US FEEDBACK, HELPING US SUPPORT, UH, SUPPORTING US ON THE PROMOTION SIDE AND JUST REALLY DIVING INTO THE PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE NEEDED THE MOST. 
          SO I REALLY AM PROUD TO KIND OF SAY THIS IS WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH. 
          IF YOU DON'T KNOW, AND YOU PROBABLY DO, THESE MURALS WILL BE CENTRAL LIBRARY AT THE PARKING GARAGE RIGHT NEXT TO THE GOOGLE BUILDING. 
          SO RIGHT OFF OF WEST STREET. 
          SO YOU SEE CHAVEZ, UM, WE ARE LITERALLY TRANSFORMING THAT TONAL THAT YOU TURN THAT RIGHT INTO GOING IN DOWN TO THE FIRST, UH, LEVEL PARKING GARAGE, TRYING TO PAINT IT UP, UH, AND REALLY TURNING THAT DUNGEON IN SPACE INTO SOMETHING VIBRANT. 
          KEEP GOING. 
          UM, SO, UM, I ASKED TOWAR TO KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND. 
          SO I CAN THINK FROM, FROM, FOR US IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THIS INITIATIVE, THIS STORY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT AUSTIN CAN BE PROUD OF. 
          AND I THINK I WANT MORE PEOPLE TO KIND OF TALK TO OTHER FOLKS ABOUT IT SO THAT WE CAN GROW THE INITIATIVE IN THE PILOT SO THAT WE CAN GO OTHER SPACES, RIGHT? SO AT THE HEART OF IT, UM, IT'S, UH, CREATING PUBLIC ART, PARTICIPANTS EXPERIENCING, UH, HOUSING AND ECONOMIC INSECURITIES, COLLABORATE WITH LOCAL ARTISTS ON MURAL INSTALLATIONS. 
          THE KEY TO THIS AND WHAT MAKES IT REALLY AWARD-WINNING IS THE FACT THAT AFTER WE, AS WE, UM, WE DO A CALL FOR THE UNHOUSED, THEY COME IN AND WE'RE ABLE TO PAIR THEM WITH THE MURALIST ON THAT DAY. 
          UM, WE GET TO PAY THEM SAME DAY PAY. 
          ALRIGHT? SO THEY WORK UP TO SIX TO EIGHT HOURS ASSISTING THE ARTISTS, AND THEY WILL RECEIVED ANYWHERE FROM 200 TO $250 IN CASH THAT DAY. 
          UM, WE ARE UTILIZING A LOTTERY SYSTEM FOR THIS AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. 
          UM, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY, UM, THE HUNGER HILL FOUNDATION. 
          UM, THEY'RE MODELING SYSTEMS, UH, ON THE LOTTERY END ARE USED MANY TIMES HERE IN AUSTIN AND THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. 
          SO BASICALLY WE HAVE DATES AND SCHEDULE DATES, UM, AND WE JUST KIND OF DO A CALL, UM, WORD OF MOUTH. 
          AND THE FIRST 20 TO 30 PARTICIPANTS IN THE UNHOUSED LINE WILL BE ABLE TO BE RECEIVED FOR THAT PARTICULAR DAY. 
          UM, WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON, BECAUSE WE WANT EVERYBODY POSSIBLE THAT WANTS TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE, THAT THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITY, WE ARE GOING TO DO, UH, PRE-REGISTRATION. 
          SO PRE-REGISTRATION JUST GIVES THEM THE FOLKS THAT DO ATTEND THE LIBRARY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THOSE DATES WILL BE, AND THEY CAN BE PREPARED TO BE THERE AS EARLY AS AN HOUR OR TWO BEFORE IN THAT LINE. 
          UM, ALSO VERY POWERFUL ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS THAT, UM, ON THE DAYS THAT WE ARE INSTALLING, WE WILL HAVE, UM, ACCESS TO SUPPORT SERVICES, UM, COURTESY OF OUR PARTNERS. 
          UM, WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING WITH ALSO INTEGRAL CARE. 
          UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE SERVICES ON SITE FOR FOLKS, UM, AS THEY ARE IN THE LINE AND THEN ALSO THROUGHOUT THE DAY, UM, ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. 
          I WILL POINT OUT, UM, THAT THERE'S THE ARTIST SIDE OF THIS, THE CULTURAL ARTIST SIDE OF THIS, WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY WITH ABOUT 45 ARTISTS. 
          UM, WE HAVE DONE TWO ARTIST KICKOFFS, UH, HAPPY HOUR FOR COMMUNITY WITH THE, WITHIN THE ARTIST. 
          WE'VE DONE, UM, UH, A PARTNERSHIP KICKOFF AND WE DID OUR FIRST PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN ARTIST MEET AND GREET, UH, THIS PAST 
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SATURDAY. 
          UH, IT WAS VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, THE ARTISTS ARE VERY EXCITED. 
          WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING, UM, UH, DEESCALATION TRAININGS AND PARTNERSHIP WITH INTEGRAL CARE FOR THE ARTISTS AS WELL TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE THEM FOR NEXT YEAR'S INSTALLATIONS. 
          UH, AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER SERVICES FOR FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, BEGINNER TO INTERMEDIATE MURALISTS. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING DOWN MURAL ARTS PHILADELPHIA NEXT MONTH, UH, THE 14TH, 15TH AND 16TH OF NOVEMBER TO DO, UH, UH, PUBLIC, UH, ART PRODUCTION 1 0 1 AS WELL AS, UH, UNDERSTANDING HOW TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND STORYTELLING, UM, TECHNIQUES AS WELL. 
          MURAL MURAL ARTS PHILADELPHIA WILL ALSO BE DOWN HERE ON THE 16TH AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY TO DO A PUBLIC WORKSHOP FACILITATION. 
          SO WE ARE, UM, WORKING AROUND RESOURCES TO HELP ELEVATE OUR, OUR CREATIVES TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN PARTNERING WITH THE UNHOUSED. 
          AND THAT MAKES ME REALLY, REALLY EXCITED. 
          'CAUSE NOW WE'RE STARTING TO TAKE THE WORK OF THE ARTS AND, UM, THE CREATIVITY AND WE'RE PUTTING IT TOWARD A SOLUTION. 
          AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY CAN BE VERY, VERY, VERY PROUD OF. 
          WE ARE WORKING ON THE STORYTELLING SIDE AND THE PR SIDE. 
          UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH JUICE CONSULTING, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT OUT CITYWIDE AND ON THE GROUND. 
          BRANDON, BRANDON AND AARON IS GOING TO BE LEADING OUR, UH, STORYTELLING INITIATIVE ALONG WITH TOWAR TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TV SHOW THAT YOU GUYS CAN WATCH AND BE ABLE TO BE INFORMED AND ACTUALLY WATCH THE LIVE PAINTINGS HAPPENING, AS WELL AS THE STORIES OF OUR PARTNERS, UH, AND THE ARTISTS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC RIGHT IN, UH, THE LIBRARY GORES AND, AND MOST OF ALL THE UNHOUSED THAT WILL BE PARTICIPATING. 
          WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THOSE STORIES AND HOW THIS TYPE OF, THESE TYPES OF INITIATIVES AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS HELPED TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE. 
          ALSO TO, UH, JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT RAZIN WAS SAYING, UM, WE'RE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PR TEAM AND MARKETING TEAM. 
          SO WE WANT TO NOT LIVE IN SILOS, BUT TO HAVE A, A COLLECTIVE APPROACH TO SOLVING, UH, SOME OF THESE, UH, MOST CHALLENGING IMPRESSES AND CHALLENGES IN, IN AUSTIN. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER ADDED BONUS OF WORKING WITH JUICE CONSULTING AS WELL. 
          ALRIGHT, LOVE IT. 
          SO JUST LOOKING AT KEY DATES AND TIMES, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GO HIGH LEVEL. 
          HOW ARE WE DOING ON TIME RIGHT NOW? MAYBE THREE MORE MINUTES. 
          ALL RIGHTY. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, I KIND OF MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN REALLY EXTENDING THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO REALLY DIG DOWN INTO THE, UH, LIBRARY GOERS AND THE USERS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THOSE STORIES SHOULD BE ONCE PAINTING BEGIN. 
          SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR SECOND OR THIRD MONTH NOW, WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT DECEMBER OF 2025. 
          UH, WE'RE ON OUR FIRST WORKSHOP, WE ALREADY DID THAT. 
          WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING IN NOVEMBER AND POSSIBLY ONE IN DECEMBER. 
          UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO REALLY GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE, UH, BETWEEN DECEMBER AND JANUARY, A LITTLE BIT OF FEBRUARY, AND TO REALLY GET, UM, THE ARTISTS EXCITED, UM, AND, AND CREATING DESIGNS THAT ARE NOT ONLY, UH, IMPACTFUL BUT ICONIC, RIGHT? SO EVERYBODY'S COMING TO THE LIBRARY TO SEE THESE INCREDIBLE STORIES, UM, UH, WHAT THE LIBRARY HAS TO OFFER. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THROUGH THAT DESIGN APPROVAL PROCESS, WE CAN GET OVER TO INSTALLATION. 
          UM, AND THE PAINT TOUCHES THE CONCRETE OF THAT DUNGENESS PARKING GARAGE BY MARCH. 
          SO THAT IS THE GOAL. 
          UM, AND WE WANNA KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED OF THIS. 
          UM, IT'S GONNA BE ALL HANDS ON DECK, UH, AS WE WILL MOVE THROUGH, UM, THE PROCESS OF ENGAGING THE UNHOUSED AS THE INSTALLATIONS BEGIN. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, UM, THE REST OF THE YEAR. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT INSTALLATIONS THROUGHOUT 2026. 
          SO PROBABLY BY THE BEGINNING OF 2027, WE CAN UNVEIL THE INCREDIBLE, UH, ACHIEVEMENTS OF 2026. 
          SO THIS IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TOO MUCH IN THIS, JUST KNOW WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE DUNGENESS AREAS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PAINTING STAIRWELLS. 
          WE'VE GOT ELEVATOR SHAFTS, WE'VE GOT THE PERIMETER WALL THAT YOU SEE BEHIND THERE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, PRETTY MUCH MAKE IT A MURAL ART GALLERY THAT YOU CAN WALK UP AND SEE THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF ART WE'RE GONNA BE TOUCHING. 
          UM, THE COLUMNS, UH, RECTANGULAR AND CIRCULAR COLUMNS. 
          UH, WE HAVE ACCENT WALLS AND, AND BIG, UH, THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IS REALLY TRANSFORMING THAT TUNNEL. 
          SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT TUNNEL, YOU'RE GONNA BE WANTING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT IS, UH, GOING TO BE REVEALED IN THE REST OF THE, UH, PARKING LOT, UH, LEVEL OF, OF PARKING LOT ONE. 
          I ALSO WANNA ADD IN THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, LOOKING AT AN APPRENTICE PROGRAM 
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FOR THE UNHOUSED ARTISTS THAT ALL DON'T REALLY NEED ASSISTANCE, THEY CAN JUST DO ART ON THEIR OWN. 
          AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, UM, HAVE AT LEAST A HANDFUL, 15 TO 20 UNHOUSED ARTISTS THAT CAN WALK ALONGSIDE OF THE ARTISTS AND DO THEIR OWN ART. 
          SO THAT'S COMING. 
          UM, WE'RE STILL, UM, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DRAFT OUT THAT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, AND THIS IS JUST, UM, A HIGH LEVEL MAP OF HOW WE'VE BREAKING DOWN AND WE WILL BREAKING DOWN, WE WILL BREAK DOWN THE CANVASES TO BE ABLE TO SIGN EACH ARTIST. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 45 ARTISTS ON THE ROSTER, SO WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, REALLY MAKE THIS GARAGE AND TRANSFORM IT INTO PRETTY MUCH A MURAL DESTINATION NEXT. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE JUST GO HIGH LEVEL. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DISTRIBUTING, DISTRIBUTING $250,000, UM, OVER THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS, UM, THE ASSISTANCE THAT WILL BE GOING ON NEXT YEAR, UH, BY THE UNHOUSED. 
          OUR GOAL WAS TO ENGAGE A HUNDRED PLUS, I THINK WE'LL CLEAR THAT NUMBER, NUMBER FOR UNHOUSED PARTICIPANTS. 
          AND WE WERE, WE DID HAVE AN ORIGINAL GOAL OF 20 PLUS ARTISTS. 
          WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED THAT BY 25 ARTISTS. 
          SO WE HAD, WE ARE AT 45 ARTISTS. 
          UM, AND THEN ACTIVATING OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          I I PROMISE YOU, THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THIS MAP, WE WERE UNDER THAT AND WE RE UH, DESIGNED, UH, THE CURATORIAL SPOTS WHERE WE WERE GOING TO, UH, ASSIGN THE ARTISTS. 
          AND WE'RE WELL OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET NOW. 
          SO, UM, YEAH. 
          SO I THINK, UH, ALL IN A NUTSHELL, WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT, UM, UH, DOING IT. 
          WE'RE UNDERWAY ALREADY AND JUST WANTED TO BRING IT IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY DONE IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT IT WAS HARD TO GET ON Y'ALL SCHEDULE, Y'ALL BUSY. 
          UM, BUT I, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF OPEN IT UP IT, MIKE, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, THINGS TO ADD BEFORE THEY OPEN UP. 
          NO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR JESUS AND LAURA AND MAYA AND THE TEAM AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN BEEN SUPER INCREDIBLY HELPFUL FOR US TO PUSH THROUGH NOT ONLY THE TRANCHES OF FUNDING, BUT UH, ENSURING THAT OUR SCHEDULES ARE IN STEP WITH Y'ALL. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THIS WONDERFUL PRESENTATION ABOUT A FABULOUS PROJECT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER ESMAN, AND THEN COMMISSIONER SMALL BOX? YEAH, I JUST WANNA GIVE MAJOR CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH CITY STAFF AND RAISING YOUR TEAM. 
          LIKE I REMEMBER THIS COMING UP AND US TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE VERY EARLY PHASES OF CONCEPTION. 
          IT'S JUST REALLY EXCITING TO SEE IT COME ALL THE WAY AND TO SEE IT LIKE WE WERE GONNA GET SOME ART IN THE LIBRARY, UM, THE DUNGEONS PART OF THE LIBRARY. 
          UH, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR MAINTENANCE FOR THE MURAL? HAVE YOU GUYS STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT WITH EITHER CITY STAFF OR, UM, THE LIBRARY STAFF? I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCESSIBLE THE PARKING GARAGE IS TO THE PUBLIC, BUT LIKE, OBVIOUSLY GRAFFITI ABATEMENT, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, SO WE'VE BEEN, UH, TALKING WITH JAIME AND SEAN OVER AT A IPP. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REALLY ROBUST PLAN. 
          UM, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE DIRECTION I KIND OF WANNA MOVE IN GENERAL IS TO KIND OF HELP MAINTAIN A LOT OF, UH, THE ARTWORK THAT IS AROUND THE CITY. 
          BUT I THINK FOR ME, THIS IS PROBABLY ON THE EASIER SIDE. 
          UH, WE'VE DONE MANY, MANY PROJECTS. 
          UM, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE ANY UV EXPOSURE. 
          UM, AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON COATINGS THAT MAKE, IF, IF AND WHEN THERE IS, UH, ANY TYPE OF VANDALISM, WE'RE ABLE TO KIND OF WASH IT OFF, RIGHT? SO WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT AN EASIER STREAMLINED APPROACH TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THESE FOR THE LONGER TERM. 
          YEAH. 
          BEING IN A QUESTION ENCLOSED AREA WITH GARAGE, LIKE I JUST IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, FUMES AND EXHAUST REALLY STARTING TO COAT THOSE WALLS OR CARDS LIKE, FOR THAT MATTER, HITTING A WALL . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT AND WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT DIFFERENT OTHER THINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE FOR ART THAT WOULD BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE TO THAT EXTENT. 
          SO. 
          GREAT. 
          COMMISSIONER ALBA. 
          YEAH, DITO WHAT COMMISSIONER ZIMAN SAID AND EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE PROJECT. 
          CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE ON A REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT PROGRAM. 
          MY IMP AND I LOVE PHILLY MURAL ARTS. 
          I THINK THEY'RE SUCH AN INCREDIBLE EXAMPLE. 
          MY IMPRESSION OF PART OF WHAT HAS MADE PHILLY MURAL ARTS SO SUCCESSFUL AND SUSTAINABLE OVER THE YEARS IS THEY DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF, UM, DOCUMENTING THEIR IMPACT. 
          AND SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU, AND, AND I KNOW YOU SPOKE ABOUT STORYTELLING AND THAT'S CERTAINLY PART OF, OF THAT, BUT, UM, ON THE PARTNERS LIST, DO YOU HAVE ANYONE WHO COULD KIND OF PUT ON A RESEARCHER HAT AND DOCUMENT WHAT, YOU KNOW, THINKING THROUGH? AND I IMAGINE THAT PHILLY, MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY PROVIDED YOU WITH SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY'VE 
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EVALUATED SIMILAR PROGRAMS AND JUST THE KIND OF METRICS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. 
          UM, CERTAINLY THE QUALITATIVE AND STORYTELLING ASPECTS, BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE ABLE TO REALLY DEMONSTRATE IN MULTIPLE WAYS THE IMPACT THAT I'M CERTAIN THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO HAVE ON, ON, UH, THE PARTICIPANTS, THAT'S GONNA MAKE IT EVEN MORE SUSTAINABLE AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR ABILITY TO, TO FIND MORE RESOURCES TO DO THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 
          SO I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, IF YOU HAVE THAT ALREADY OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED AND, AND IF WE CAN HELP WITH THAT, THAT'S EXCELLENT. 
          I, I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR US. 
          UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE PUT UP GREAT PROJECTS ALL THE TIME. 
          OUR PARTNERS PUT UP GREAT PROJECTS, BUT I THINK THIS TIME AROUND IS ABOUT THE IMPACT, RIGHT? AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO PROVE THE IMPACT AND ARTICULATE THE IMPACT IN A WAY. 
          WE HAVE CONSULTANTS ON DECK, WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT ARE ABLE TO WALK US THROUGH THIS AND WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE TEAM. 
          SO I THINK FOR ME, IT'S JUST ABOUT DATA IS IMPORTANT. 
          LIKE, YES, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO THE WORKSHOP, BUT WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE COMING TO THE WORKSHOP, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND WHAT ARE THE ISSUES IF THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY A DA ACCESSIBLE? ARE, ARE THEY WHAT ETHNICITY? ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHO IS USING THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? UM, SO TO THAT EXTENT, I, I LOVE THAT QUESTION AND YES, WE ARE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ARTICULATE THAT IMPACT IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN BE HANDED A, A REPORT AND YOU'RE ABLE TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER CITY AND TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR CITY IS DOING. 
          SO YES, WE ARE WORKING IN MURAL ARTS IS GOING TO BE HELPING US ON THAT END AS WELL. 
          AND, UH, I JUST BELIEVE, I THINK THIS IS ALSO GREAT, REALLY GREAT TO KIND OF BRING UP TO THE PARTNERS TO SEE, UM, WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UM, HELPING US OR WHO COULD WE LEAN ON ON THAT PARTNER LIST. 
          YEAH. 
          AND TO TOUCH ON THE METRIC LIST, UM, SO I CAME FROM THE TECH SIDE OF, OF THE WORLD, AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, GOING BEYOND THE VANITY METRICS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE. 
          UM, BESIDES WHO CAME, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME, WE WANT TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THE VALUE AND THE QUALITY THAT WE ADD TO THE CITY AND THIS PROJECT. 
          SO WE WANT TO, UH, REALLY THINK ABOUT NOT JUST THE RETURN ON LIKE INVESTMENT, BUT WHAT'S THIS RETURN ON IMPACT, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THAT FEEL LIKE? AND WE WANT TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER IN THAT. 
          SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO ASK AND IF THERE'S A NEED, LIKE IF, IF YOU FIND YOURSELVES NEEDING, UM, YOU KNOW, FURTHER, LIKE A DEEPER BENCH ON THAT, UM, PLEASE REACH OUT. 
          'CAUSE I WORK WITH, I'M AT UT AND I WORK WITH A LOT OF RESEARCHERS AND I THINK LIKE THERE ARE FOLKS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN POTENTIALLY WORKING WITH Y'ALL ON THAT, OR AT LEAST LIKE PROVIDING SOME IDEAS ABOUT METHODOLOGY AND HOW YOU MIGHT APPROACH THAT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW LIKE THE PORCHLIGHT PROGRAM AT PHILLY, MURAL ARTS DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB. 
          YES. 
          LIKE BEING ABLE TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, REDUCTION IN STIGMA AROUND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE, LIKE, WE ALL KNOW THIS AS, AS ARTISTS AND ARTS ADVOCATES AND PARTICIPANTS, BUT LIKE BEING ABLE TO TELL THAT STORY WITH CONVINCINGLY IS GONNA BE SO POWERFUL. 
          NOT JUST FOR YOUR PROGRAM, BUT FOR ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT, UM, SO MANY OF US ARE ENGAGED IN. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          COMMISSIONER HUSSEI. 
          HI. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          AND BEFORE I ASK THIS QUESTION, BECAUSE IT IS A QUESTION, KNOW THAT I'M NOT ACTUALLY ASKING THIS QUESTION ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. 
          I'M REFERENCING DIFFERENT PROJECTS I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST MM-HMM . 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT BEFORE BECAUSE IT, MY QUESTION IS GONNA SOUND LIKE A CRITICISM. 
          IT'S NOT MEANT AS THAT. 
          SO I'M JUST CLARIFYING TO BEGIN WITH. 
          UM, I LOVE THE ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY THAT IS UNHOUSED, RIGHT? AND THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF RESOURCES, EDUCATION, SUPPORT, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THEM BE TRAINED AND COME OUT AND DO WORK AND GET PAID. 
          PREVIOUS PROJECTS THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF WHILE SERVING OR PROVIDING SUPPORT TO THIS CONSTITUENCY DID NOT TAKE THEM INTO ACCOUNT AS STAKEHOLDERS, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE AND FIND THEM? HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY PAY THEM IF THEY DON'T HAVE AN ADDRESS OR A BANK? THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND YOU'VE BEEN SO THOUGHTFUL ON ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT'S MANAGED. 
          AND I'M NOT, YOU DON'T NEED TO GO INTO LIKE EVERY DETAIL, IF YOU WILL. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM, THIS IS JUST MY REFLECTION OF HAVING WORKED WITH OTHER GROUPS. 
          NO NEED COMMISSIONER. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          I THINK FOR US, IT'S VERY SIMPLE. 
          UM, WE WANT TO TAKE AWAY BARRIERS, UM, THAT MOST FOLKS, UM, MIGHT HAVE TO DEAL WITH. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO COME TO US AND SAY, HEY, I'M UNHOUSED, AND YOU KNOW, GIVE US YOUR NAME IF YOU WANT. 
          GIVE US YOUR LAST NAME, A VERY FEW THINGS, UM, AND BE WILLING, YOU'RE NOT, UM, UNDER THE INFLUENCE IN TERMS OF ANY DRUGS 
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OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE HAVE A VERY SIMPLE LIST, UM, THAT WE ARE INVITING PEOPLE IN. 
          AND WHEN WE GET TO AND WHEN THEY GET TO US, IT'S A SIMPLE YES, RIGHT? THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU'RE TURNED DOWN IS IF YOU, WE CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING DOWN VERY SIMPLE INFORMATION, UM, UH, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, NAME, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY HOUSING, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE DOWN INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN GIVE TO US SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE BACK END FOR, UH, IMPACT AND REPORTING. 
          UM, YOU ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE ARE RECRUITING. 
          I THINK IT WAS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW ARE WE FINDING THE UNHOUSED. 
          UM, I THINK FOR US, WE'RE GONNA LEAN ON OUR PARTNERS, UM, THAT ARE ON THE GROUND EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          UH, HUNGRY HILL FOUNDATION, KARITAS, UH, AND THE OTHER ONES FOUNDATION AMONGST OTHERS INTEGRAL CARE. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAN ON WHERE THESE FOLKS ARE. 
          WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LEAN ON THEM SPREADING THE WORD. 
          AND I THINK THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT IS, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO'S BEEN TO THE LIBRARY IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, BUT THE LIBRARY IS FULL OF FOLKS THAT ARE, HAVE UNHOUSED OR HOUSING INSECURITIES. 
          UM, THEY LEAN ON THE LIBRARY A LOT OF TIMES TO CHECK THEIR EMAILS. 
          UH, THEY LEAN ON THE LIBRARY TO COME IN JUST FOR A PLACE WITH AIR CONDITIONING AND A PLACE THAT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES AROUND THEM. 
          SO I THINK THIS, IF, I MEAN, IF THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE NO BETTER PLACE FOR US TO DO THIS PROJECT, UM, THAN THAN THE LIBRARY OR THE CENTRAL LIBRARY. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH SPREADING THE WORD ONCE WE GET, BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE LIBRARIES MARKETING TEAM TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITIES OUT TO THEM ON THE DIGITAL DISPLAYS. 
          UH, WE'RE TALKING, I MEAN, WE GO EVERY WEEKEND AND WE'RE JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE, RIGHT? LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING DOWN. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE PROGRAM IS ABOUT. 
          SO WE'RE ON THE GROUND. 
          UM, I'M NO STRANGER TO THAT. 
          I'M A DOOR KNOCKER. 
          I'M KNOCK ON THE DOORS AND I SAY, HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? UM, I'M HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER, SINCE UH, THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS I'VE BEEN AT THE LIBRARY, I MEAN, I LITERALLY, IT'S LIFE CHANGING THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD, UM, WITH, WITH FOLKS THAT ARE HAVING HOUSING INSECURITIES. 
          AND SO I THINK THIS DOESN'T STOP. 
          IT JUST CONTINUES TO GO. 
          AND NOW I CAN HONESTLY SAY WE AS A CITY CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR THEM REAL TIME, UM, AND NOT TURN THEM AWAY, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK FOR ME, UH, IT'S ON THE GROUND. 
          OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT ANSWER. 
          AND I BELIEVE YOUR SPIRIT IS THERE OF, AND, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THE QUALIFICATIONS YOU MADE EARLIER, WHILE I APPRECIATE THAT THE DIRECTION WAS MORE, HOW DO WE REDUCE THE FRICTION FOR THEM SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE MOST OUT OF, OF WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING, RIGHT? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE, AND I'M JUST GIVING THE EXAMPLE BECAUSE I THINK THE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE HELPS, RIGHT? LIKE IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT, DO WE DO PREPAID CARDS THAT THEY CAN HAVE SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEPENDENT ON TECHNOLOGY OR LIKE THE INSTITUTIONAL THINGS THAT ARE, THAT MOST PEOPLE ASSUME, RIGHT? UM, SORRY, WAS SOMEONE SAYING SOMETHING? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          OKAY. 
          I HEARD SOMETHING AND SO I'M, I'M JUST LOVING THAT AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THE WAYS THAT WE ENSURE THEIR DIGNITY IN THEIR PARTICIPATION HERE AND MAKE IT COMFORTABLE FOR THEM TOO. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND SO I I APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF CARE AND CONCERN ON ALL ASPECTS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND REAL QUICK BEFORE I KNOW WE  STAYED 15 MINUTES, I WANT, I WANT TO CLARIFY TOO, WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE NEED TO GIVE THEM CASH, WE COULD DO THAT. 
          IF WE NEED TO GIVE THEM CASH MONEY, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          THE CITY ALREADY SAID WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, I DON'T, I DON'T FORESEE ANY CARDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT GIVING THAT TO THEM IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BANK ACCOUNTS. 
          SO TO ME IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY THOSE BARRIERS, UM, WE'LL HAVE SECURITY ON SITE, UM, SO, UM, FOLKS CAN BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THEIR PAYMENT SAME DAY. 
          UM, MEAN WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT ANY BARRIERS IN FRONT OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          COMMISSIONER KEYS A RAY. 
          HI KE. 
          UM, I ALSO WAS JUST GONNA SUGGEST, UM, THE HOMELESS STRATEGY OFFICE AS WELL. 
          UM, AND WORKING WITH THEM, PARTNERING WITH THEM, REACHING OUT TO DAVID GRAY AND HIS TEAM, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE DOING A PRETTY BIG UNDERTAKING RIGHT NOW WITH SOME OF THE SHELTERS AND FACILITIES AND AS THEY PREPARE FOR THE WEATHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT MIGHT ALSO BE A WAY TO CONNECT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ALSO MIGHT JUST BE EXPERIENCING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING, A LITTLE BIT OF UNCERTAINTY OF WHERE THEIR TEMPORARY HOMES HAVE BEEN. 
          A LOT LIKE, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY BIG MIGRATION IN THE NEXT COUPLE 
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OF WEEKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PE UM, THAT PEOPLE HAVE, UM, MORE COMFORTABLE SPACES AND WE'RE, THE CITY IS PREPARED FOR SOME OF THAT WEATHER, IMPENDING WEATHER. 
          SO I ALSO WOULD JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, WORK WITH THEM. 
          I KNOW, UH, DAVID GRAY IS GREAT WITH STRATEGY AND HE WORKS A LOT IN THE COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THE UNHOUSED. 
          SO JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CLOSING THE LOOP ON THAT. 
          THAT'S EXCELLENT KEY. 
          WE HAVE, THEY'VE BEEN ON THE GROUND WITH US. 
          UM, DAY ONE, UH, DAVID IS, UH, BELIEVING IS CHARLES, UM, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT US WITH KEY PARTNERS. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST ALONG THE WAY, ANYTHING THAT WE NEED. 
          SO I THINK THAT WAS A EXCELLENT POINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE ITCHING TO SPEAK. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, MIKE AND RAISIN, WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL. 
          YOUR WORK YOU'RE DOING IS GREATLY APPRECIATED FOR THE CITY. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          SUSAN. 
          THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON IS GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE US AT EIGHT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 AND 11 TO NOW. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND. 
          SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GRAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE AGENDA 10 AND 11 UP. 
          SO LET'S START WITH ITEM 10. 
          SUNSET 
          [10. Sunset the Community Feedback on most recent release of the Cultural Funding Programs Working Group]
THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON MOST RECENT RELEASE OF THE CULTURAL FUNDING PROGRAMS WORKING GROUP. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON CHAIR, DID YOU HAVE ANY REPORT THAT YOU WANTED TO GO? NO, LET'S GET RID OF THAT GROUP. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO SUNSET THAT COMMITTEE. 
          I MOVE, I'LL MOVE. 
          I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER, SMALL COMMISSIONER MALDONADO. 
          SECOND. 
          I, YES. 
          ALL ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? SO THAT GROUP IS SUNSETTED UNTIL IT IS NEEDED. 
          AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER THAT THE GROUPS WILL NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A REPORT, LIKE A FINAL REPORT TO SAY WHAT THE, WHY THEY WERE CREATED AND WHY WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED AND BEING DONE. 
          THAT WILL COME AROUND . 
          YEAH. 
          IT'LL BE SHORT. 
          SO WE'LL GET A REPORT, UM, A FINAL REPORT ON THAT COMMITTEE AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING, SHOULD IT BE THE FIRST VERSION, BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DID STUFF, DEALER'S CHOICE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S LIKE A STRICT DEADLINE FOR THAT. 
          I JUST REMEMBER THAT THAT'S WHAT WE USUALLY DO OR THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DO WHEN WE'RE CLOSING A GROUP. 
          I'LL GET WITH NGA VALLEY AND WE WILL WORK IT OUT. 
          I MEAN, COMMISSIONER CHARLA . 
          MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 
          [11. Establish a Working Group to review/update Arts Commission Bylaws]
11, ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP TO REVIEW, UPDATE ARTS COMMISSION BYLAW. 
          THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON THAT THE BYLAWS WERE OUT OF DATE. 
          I ALSO RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM COMMISSIONER GARZA THAT HE WAS TOLD IN 2019 THAT THE BYLAWS WOULD BE UPDATING AND ON THE WAY, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING. 
          SO I THINK THEY WERE UPDATED SINCE 2019, BUT ONE THAT DOESN'T NEGATE THE POINT THAT  SHARON'S MAKING, I WOULD SAY A WORKING GROUP'S WELL IN ORDER, JUST THE GAP IN UPDATE. 
          AND THEN ALSO THE LAST RETREAT THAT WE HAD, WHICH WAS MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WAS NOT ALL THAT SUCCESSFUL IN TERMS OF FINALIZING PILLARS AND OUR CORE VALUES. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN DEFINITELY BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT IN THE BYLAWS WE SOMEHOW, UH, GIVE A SUGGESTED TIME FRAME FOR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I, AS A CREATIVE PERSON, LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE FEELINGS A LOT, BUT I GET VERBOSE AND OUR MEETINGS ARE REALLY LONG. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST WE HAVE A LINE ABOUT SUGGESTED TIMELINE FOR COMMISSION COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK. 
          CAN WE MOVE FORWARD TO ESTABLISH WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WHEN WE TALK DETAILS AT ANOTHER TIME? SURE. 
          SURE. 
          SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP? JESUS. 
          OKAY, I'LL MOVE THAT. 
          WE ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP TO UPDATE THE BYLAWS. 
          I'LL SECOND COMMISSIONER GRAY SECONDS MOVED AND SECONDED. 
          ANY, ANY DISCUSSION? I KEEP FORGETTING TO ASK FOR DISCUSSION. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? CALLING THE QUESTION TO START A WORKING GROUP TO UPDATE THE BYLAWS. 
          COMMISSIONERS, YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO IDENTIFY THE MEMBERS OF THAT WORKING GROUP. 
          OH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO'S WILLING TO WORK WITH COMMISSIONER? UH, COMMISSIONER SHARON. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON ON UPDATING THE BYLAWS. 
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SINCE I HAVE SPECIFIC REQUESTS, I WILL VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THAT WORKING GROUP. 
          , I WOULD SAY REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER GARZA AS WELL. 
          HE SEEMED TO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST. 
          COMMISSIONER GARZA DID SEND ME AN EMAIL, SO WE'LL PUT HIS NAME ON THERE. 
          COMMISSIONER KEYS, ARE YOU VOLUNTEERING? UH, YEAH, I DON'T MIND. 
          BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, IS THIS GOING TO, WITH ACNE AND US NOW HAVING MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT AND ARTS AND CULTURE ALL UNDER ONE? LIKE, DOES THIS IMPACT THE COMMISSION AT ALL? BECAUSE I ALSO DON'T WANNA DO DUPLICATIVE WORK IF WE'RE, IF THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE WITH THE COMMISSIONS OR DRASTICALLY IN HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS NOW. 
          SO OUR, OUR, OUR BYLAWS ARE BASED ON THE INITIATING, UH, PROPOSITION IN THE CHARTER. 
          AND THE CHARTER SAYS THAT WE, WE, WE ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          OUR BYLAWS ARE JUST HOW DO WE DO THAT? IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER ACME EXISTS AND WHAT ACME'S DOING. 
          IT'S JUST HOW, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF ADVISING THE COUNCIL AND THAT ISN'T OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          I VOLUNTEER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AT THE MOMENT, THE, THE BYLAWS DO SAY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING TO CHANGE. 
          SO WHATEVER ELSE YOU GUYS WANNA CHANGE COULD BE A VERY SHORT MEETING. 
          THAT MIGHT BE IT. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, COMMISSIONER GARZA, COMMISSIONER HOUSTON, COMMISSIONER KEYS. 
          DO YOU ALL, UH, DO YOU AGREE WITH THESE PEOPLE? COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AND COMMISSIONER AM MALDONADO TO ADD TO YOUR NOMINATION TO YOUR MOTION? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER MALDONADO, YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          CALL ON THE QUESTION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON WILL COMMUNICATE WITH YOU ALL ABOUT WHEN AND HOW AND WHAT FOR NOW. 
          WE ARE MOVING ON TO COMMISSIONER. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, DISCUSSION ON COMMISSIONER KEYS REQUEST NEED FOR PUBLIC CITY PUBLIC AND PUBLIC PRIVATE SPACE UTILIZATION REPORT TO ACCESS THE CURRENT STATE USE AND COSTS OF SOME PUBLIC AND PUBLIC PRIVATE MULTI-USE, CREATIVE AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND SPACES. 
          THIS IS INITIATED BY THE SITUATION AT THE CARVER, BUT IS TRANSLATABLE TO ALL OF OUR SPACES AND DOWN COMMISSIONER KEYS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          DID YOU SAY NUMBER FOUR OR NUMBER FIVE? YEAH, I THINK NUMBER FOUR NEEDS TO COME FIRST. 
          DISCUSS, THAT'S NUMBER. 
          WELL, IT MOVED BECAUSE WE, I I HAVE MY NUMBERS MESSED UP, SO, SO 
          [4. Discussion on Commissioner Keys’ concerns coming from artists and arts advocates and discuss some quicker payment processes ]
WE CAN DO CONCERNS COMING FROM ARTS AND ARTS ADVOCATES AND DISCUSS QUICKER PAYMENT PROCESSES FIRST, IF YOU LIKE. 
          UM, SURE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, BASICALLY I'M JUST GONNA READ THE STATEMENT THAT I TYPED BEFORE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT WILL GIVE THE MOST CONTEXT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I ALSO HAD TO GO THROUGH INVESTIGATING A LOT OF IT. 
          UM, BUT LET'S SEE, UM, WHERE I'LL START. 
          BASICALLY, I'M WRITING THIS WHILE ON VACATION BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROCESS AND COMMUNICATION REGARDING THE ISSUE, IE THE CARVER AND PAYMENT PROCESSES SPECIFICALLY. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW, UM, SOME OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF POSITIONED, UM, WERE POSITIONED TO MAKE OR INFLUENCE DECISIONS ABOUT A MEETING THEY WERE NOT PRESENT FOR WITHOUT INFORMING COMMISSIONERS, UM, WHO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS MATTER OVER TWO MONTHS. 
          UM, I ALSO, UH, WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, UM, IT WAS VERY APPARENT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER I HAD TO DO TWO MONTHS OF INVESTIGATING, UM, AND ASKING LIKE ARTISTS GETTING RECEIPTS, TIMESTAMPS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE DISCUSSION WE HAD SHOULD NOT REPLACE A TRANSPARENT PUBLIC FACING RESPONSE. 
          TO BE CANDID, THE HANDLING OF THIS ISSUE FEELS LIKE MANIPULATION AND DAMAGE CONTROL. 
          EACH TIME I TRIED TO ADDRESS WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE CARVER, ONCE IT, I I, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION IN AUGUST, THE GOALPOST SEEMED TO BE MOVED TO AVOID ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          ACME HAS BEEN AWARE OF THE SITUATION SINCE, SINCE JUNE, WHETHER THE LACK OF ACTION BEFORE THE COMMISSION INVOLVEMENT WAS A FAILURE OF PROCESS OR WILL. 
          THAT RESPONSIBILITY DOES NOT LIE WITH THE ARTIST OR, UM, I'M SORRY, WITH THE ARTIST OR THE ARTIST COMMUNITY. 
          THE FACT REMAINS ARTISTS WENT UNPAID FOR NEARLY A YEAR. 
          ARTISTS AND ORGAN ORGANIZERS WERE RETALIATED AGAINST WITH DELAYED PAYMENTS, NON-PAYMENT AND PAYMENTS REDIRECTED TO THIRD PARTIES. 
          THEIR CONCERNS WERE DISMISSED UNTIL PUBLIC SCRUTINY BECAME A FACTOR 
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AND AN EMPLOYEE WAS ALLOWED TO CREATE AND SUBMIT A FRAUDULENT INVOICE TO HERSELF, WHICH WAS THEN USED TO CLAIM PAYMENT THAT HAD BEEN MADE, THAT HAD NOT BEEN MADE. 
          THE DELAYS IN ACKNOWLEDGING AND ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES CAUSE UNNECESSARY HARM THAT ALSO SPILLED OVER INTO OTHER COMMISSIONS AND CONFUSION WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED WITH CONTRACTS AND PROPER PAYMENT PROCEDURES AND JUST ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT INSTEAD ESCALATED INTO A LARGER ISSUE AFFECTING PUBLIC TRUST. 
          THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FROM ACNE IS DEEPLY HURTFUL TO THE ARTS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CONTEXT. 
          THIS SITUATION OCCURRED IN A HISTORICALLY BLACK INSTITUTION WHERE A NON-BLACK STAFF MEMBER WAS ALLOWED TO EXERCISE POWER IN A WAY THAT HARMED THE VERY COMMUNITY THIS SPACE IS MEANT TO SERVE. 
          WHEN BLACK WOMEN ARTISTS AND CURATORS RAISE CONCERN, THEY WERE IGNORED, UNDERMINED, AND OR FRAMED. 
          AS UNTRUTHFUL RENAMING DEPARTMENTS ARE SHIFTING. 
          THE OVERSIGHT BETWEEN PAR EDD OR OTHER CITY ENTITIES DOES NOT REBUILD THE TRUST WHEN PATTERNS LIKE THIS HAVE CONTINUED AND BEEN DOCUMENTED FOR AT LEAST A CENTURY IN THIS CITY. 
          THIS IS BIGGER THAN INDIVIDUAL PAYMENTS. 
          IT'S ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY AND RESPECT FOR THE CULTURAL WORKERS WHO MAKE AUSTIN'S AUSTIN ART ECOSYSTEM THRIVE. 
          UM, AT THIS POINT I FEEL LIKE I'VE DONE MY DUE DILIGENCE AND ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I CAN PROVIDE. 
          I APPRECIATE MARJORIE, UM, BEING ON THE CALL AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, I, LIKE I SAID, I SPENT ABOUT TWO MONTHS INVESTIGATING AS WELL, SO I'M SURE I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED AS WELL. 
          COMMISSIONERS, DID YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS INITIALLY? COMMISSIONER SMALL. 
          I GUESS THE QUESTION IS FOR THE ACME TEAM IS, IS KIND OF WHAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SERIOUS ACCUSATIONS AND SOME SERIOUS DOCUMENTED ISSUES THAT HAVE NOW BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD BY COMMISSIONER KEYS AND OTHERS, AND JUST, I THINK IT'S, WE NEED TO HAVE A, SOME IDEA OF LIKE WHAT, WHAT STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN, WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR REMEDYING, ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, AND WHERE, WHERE, WHERE Y'ALL ARE IN THE PROCESS. 
          I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OUT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYONE'S PRIVACY AND THE CITY HAVING TO COMPLY WITH CERTAIN CONFIDENTIALITY OBLIGATIONS, I CAN'T. 
          MS. FLANAGAN, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE YOURSELF A TITLE AND EVERYTHING? THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS MARJORIE FLANAGAN. 
          I'M THE DIVISION MANAGER OVER CULTURAL EDUCATION AND PROGRAMS. I'VE BEEN IN THIS ROLE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW, AND, UH, YEAH, SO I'M NOT GLAD TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT GLAD TO BE HERE AND, AND TALK TO EVERYONE. 
          UM, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO CERTAIN CONFIDENTIALITY OBLIGATIONS, AND SO I CAN'T SPECIFICALLY, UM, SPEAK TO A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL OR EMPLOYEE FOR AN ONGOING MATTER, BUT WHAT I CAN SHARE IS THAT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO HR AND ARE INVESTIGATING THE SITUATION THAT'S BROUGHT FOR, BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. 
          SO THERE IS GONNA BE AN ONGOING, UM, INVESTIGATION BY HR COMMISSIONER MALDONADO. 
          UM, SO I BELIEVE THIS HAS HAPPENED MORE THAN ONCE, WHETHER IT'S AT THE CARVER OR OTHER INSTITUTIONS, OR LET'S JUST SAY OTHER ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, PROJECTS WHERE SOMEONE IS, UH, WHERE AN ENTITY IS AWARDED THE MONEY, AND THEN THE ACTUAL ARTISTS OR CURATORS GO A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITHOUT GETTING PAID OR NOT GETTING PAID AT ALL. 
          SO I THINK FOR ME, I JUST FOR CONTEXT, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THAT MONEY IS DISPERSED, WHAT IS THE CHECK AND BALANCES? WHAT IS THE AUDITING, WHAT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY? AND IF YOU CAN'T SPEAK ON THE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, BASED ON THIS INVESTIGATION, WITHOUT GOING INTO, YOU KNOW, THE PRIVACY OF WHO THIS PERSON IS, WHAT DO YOU SEE THE OUTCOME BEING TO MAKE A CHANGE TO ENSURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN? WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR OCCURRENCE, THERE WASN'T A CONTRACT IN PLACE, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THE POLICIES OF THE FACILITY. 
          UH, SO A CONTRACT BEING IN PLACE WOULD BE THE FIRST OUTCOME OF ANY SORT OF INVESTIGATION. 
          BUT THAT, THAT POLICY HAS NOW BEEN REVIEWED AND IMPLEMENTED BY ALL OF THE STAFF AT THE SITE. 
          SO IN REGARDS TO THIS, THAT PARTICULAR ONE, UM, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A CONTRACTING PROCESS THAT IS IN PLACE. 
          I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE POLICIES OF A IPP OR ANY, UM, DIVISIONS, BUT FOR MY DIVISION, ALL OF 
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THE OTHER SITES USE THE CONTRACTING PROCESS AND ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SIGNATURE BY ANYONE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE PAYING. 
          UM, AND THAT, THAT WOULD'VE PROBABLY CLEARED UP ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY. 
          COMMISSIONER KEYS? UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS CLEAR THAT IT WAS, UM, ABSOLUTELY NOT A ONE-OFF AT THE, UM, CARVER. 
          IT WAS SEVERAL CONTRACTS OVER SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          UM, SO I, I DO ALSO WANT, WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT, YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WERE HERE A YEAR, BUT I'M JUST LIKE, FOR, FOR THAT TO HAPPEN TO WHERE IT IMPACTED CATERERS, IT IMPACTED THE CURATORS, IT IMPACTED THE ARTISTS TO WHERE ARTISTS SAID THEY NO LONGER, THEY DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO PROGRAM AFTER THEIR RECEPTION IN THE CARVER. 
          THEY DID NOT WANT TO COME BACK TO THE CARVER. 
          THEY DID NOT FEEL SAFE IN THE CARVER. 
          THEY DID NOT WANNA WORK WITH SPECIFIC PERSONNEL IN THE CARVER. 
          I THINK THAT TO ME WAS WHAT REALLY, UM, HIT HOME. 
          AND I, I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AND NOT JUST TO THE CARVER, BUT TO THESE CULTURAL CENTERS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE FEEL SAFE AND WELCOMED AND, AND ADVOCATED FOR IN THOSE SPACES. 
          TO ME, IT'S SO FRUSTRATING TO KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAD EMAILS SINCE JUNE AND NO ONE SAID ANYTHING OR RESPONDED TO REALLY ANYTHING UNTIL IT WAS, UNTIL I GOT INVOLVED AND I'M NOBODY. 
          AND I'M JUST LIKE, WHY, WHY DID IT TAKE ME GETTING INVOLVED FOR SOMEONE TO SAY SOMETHING, UM, TO, YEAH, TO ME THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST HURTFUL. 
          AND I'M LIKE, NOW WE'RE OUTSIDE OF A YEAR. 
          LIKE IT'S ALREADY BEEN THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          LIKE THEY WEREN'T PAID. 
          AND THE INVESTIGATION, IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH EASIER. 
          LIKE WE, THE DOCUMENTS WERE SENT IN, THE INVOICES WERE FRAUDULENT. 
          I HAD TO POINT THAT OUT ON THURSDAY ON THIS JUST MOST RECENT THURSDAY. 
          SO THE, THE PAYMENTS WEREN'T ACTUALLY, THEY WEREN'T MADE WHOLE UNTIL JUST THIS FRIDAY. 
          AND SO I DO WANT THE RECORD TO STATE THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, SO TO ME, JUST BEING A CURATOR, HEARING SOME OF THE STORIES, UM, WHERE SOME PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GET MONEY WERE APPROACHING THE CURATORS AT WORK WITH THREATS. 
          UM, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S SCARY. 
          AND A, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU'RE WORKING AND ACTIVATING THOSE RECREATION CENTERS, THEY'RE WITH PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE YOU. 
          AND SO TO BE EXPERIENCING THAT TRAUMA AND THAT HARM FROM YOUR OWN COMMUNITY AS A RESULT OF THE INSTITUTION NOT HAVING THEIR STUFF TOGETHER, LIKE THAT'S, TO ME, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT COOL. 
          AND I JUST HOPE WE REALLY TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY. 
          NOT JUST WITH THE CARVER, BUT WITH ALL OF OUR INSTITUTE, ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. 
          I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S BEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND I PERSONALLY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. 
           COMMISSIONER HUSSEI? YEAH. 
          UH, MARJORIE, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND ANSWERING SOME QUESTIONS. 
          I, UH, APPRECIATE THE, THE COMMENT ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          I APPRECIATE, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER KEYS IS SAYING ABOUT HOW IT SOUNDS LIKE THINGS WERE RESOLVED AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PUTTING THINGS ON, ON THE RECORD FOR SOME PAYMENTS BEING MADE AS OF, I THINK LAST WEEK ON FRIDAY IS WHAT YOU SAID. 
          UM, MARJORIE, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS THIS, AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT THE THING I'M THINKING IS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS WENT ON FOR OVER A YEAR AND MAYBE UNTIL SOMEBODY CONNECTED TO THE INSIDE GOT INVOLVED, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF MOVEMENT. 
          WHAT DO COMMUNITY MEMBERS DO WHEN THERE'S A CONFLICT OR ISSUE AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT CONNECTION TO SOMEONE ON THE BOARD? LIKE, WHAT OTHER RECOURSE IS THERE? ARE THERE OTHER WAYS FOR FOLKS TO GET INVOLVED? BECAUSE ISSUE LIKE THIS, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE WASN'T A ONE-OFF, WAS GOING ON FOR A YEAR, IT FEELS LIKE A VERY LONG TIME. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS EVEN LOOK LIKE, LET ALONE PREVENTING IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? RIGHT. 
          IT HAS TO DO MORE WITH LIKE, THE WAY WE ADDRESS PROBLEMS IN GENERAL, INSTEAD OF JUST DOING A RETRO ON WHAT WENT WRONG THIS TIME. 
          I'D LOVE TO SAY REACH OUT TO ME PERSONALLY. 
          UH, I HAVE NOT KNOWN ABOUT THIS SITUATION FOR A YEAR. 
          I HAVE NOT KNOWN ABOUT THIS SITUATION FOR SIX MONTHS. 
          I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS, THIS SITUATION FOR LESS THAN 90 DAYS. 
          AND AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, I ADVOCATED TO GET THE ARTIST PAID IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF MY FACILITIES, THEN I WOULD SAY REACH OUT TO ME. 
          BUT IF YOU REACH OUT TO ANY CITY STAFF, I WOULD PERSONALLY WORK TO GET THE SITUATION RESOLVED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE FROM ACME, 
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UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MORGAN MESSICK HERE? UM, I JUST WANNA ECHO WHAT MARJORIE SAID. 
          YOU KNOW, WE VALUE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE HOPE TO BE A REALLY PROACTIVE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, OUR TEAM IS REALLY COMMITTED TO WORKING ON THIS. 
          AND LIKE MARJORIE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE RUNNING IT UP THE PROCESS TO INVESTIGATE INTERNALLY. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITY PROCESSES, PROTOCOLS AND PROTECTIONS FOR STAFF, AND ALSO THINGS THAT RELATE TO OUR PROCESSES THAT WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW BEFORE WE CAN BE AS RESPONSIVE AS WE KNOW YOU'D LIKE US TO BE. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO ELEVATE ONE MORE THING IS THAT, UM, ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS WELCOME TO PUT IN A CONCERN THROUGH THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE. 
          UM, THAT IS A, AN AVENUE THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY. 
          UM, IF YOU GOOGLE THE CITY OF AUSTIN CITY AUDITOR, THERE'S A WHOLE WEBPAGE ABOUT IT. 
          UM, AND THEY HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF THAT CAN TAKE ON INVESTIGATIONS IF YOU FEEL LIKE, NOT, NOT JUST FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THE RESPONSE THAT YOU'RE SEEKING, UM, WHEN ENGAGING WITH THE CITY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT IN CASE YOU WEREN'T COMMISSIONER KEYS AND THEN COMMISSIONER MALDONADO. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE, THAT THEY WEREN'T PAID AS, AS SOON AS IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION BECAUSE IT WAS DOUBLED DOWN ON TWO OR THREE TIMES THAT THE ARTISTS WERE PAID. 
          AND THIS IS OVER TWO DIFFERENT SHOWS, THREE DIFFERENT ARTISTS THAT THEY WERE PAID AND WE WERE ASKING FOR INVOICES. 
          AND THEN IT WASN'T UNTIL I INVESTIGATED AND JUST LOOKED AT THE INVOICE. 
          SO I DO WANNA STATE THAT THEY, THE CITY COULD HAVE DONE WHAT I DID, DID, I'M NOT EVEN IN THE DEPARTMENT, ASKED QUESTIONS, TALKED TO THE ARTISTS, NONE OF THAT WAS DONE. 
          IT, THE, THE FACE VALUE WAS TAKEN AND IT WAS LIKE THREE ARTISTS WHO WERE NOT PAID THAT WE, I'M SEEING EMAILS WHERE IT'S, OH NO, THEY WERE PAID. 
          WE PAID THEM, WE PAID THEM. 
          AND IT'S NOT UNTIL WE ASKED FOR INVOICES THAT THEN THIS SITUATION CAME UP TO REALIZE THEY WERE NOT PAID. 
          SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT 90 DAYS FOR THE SITUATION TO BE RESOLVED, IT WASN'T RESOLVED UNTIL WE HAD OUR CALL ON THURSDAY. 
          AND THEN I POINTED OUT THE INVOICE THAT THEY ASSUMED HAD ALREADY BEEN PAID, THAT IT WAS FRAUDULENT. 
          SO I DO WANNA STATE THAT IT WAS DOUBLED DOWN THREE OR FOUR TIMES THAT THE ARTISTS WERE PAID MULTIPLE ARTISTS AND THEY WERE NOT. 
          I JUST WANNA GO AHEAD AND SAY THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THE HR LEVEL WHEN THEY DO THEIR INVESTIGATION. 
          I AM NOT AN INVESTIGATOR, I AM NOT TASKED WITH INVESTIGATING THESE THINGS. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT SIDES TO THIS STORY, AND IT'S GONNA BE HRS JOB TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED. 
          AND THERE WILL BE A REPORT THAT COMES FROM THAT. 
          OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT THEN WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THE PAYMENT IF, IF YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE, IF THEY WERE ALREADY PAID, WHY WAS A PAYMENT MADE FRIDAY? THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THIS. 
          IF, IF THEY WERE PAID OUT THEN, THEN THAT MEANS ON FRIDAY THEY WERE GIVEN EXTRA PAYMENT. 
          BECAUSE I SAW, I GOT THE EMAILS ON FRIDAY WHEN I WAS ON VACATION SAYING THAT THE ARTIST HAD JUST BEEN PAID AS A RESULT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WHERE I POINTED OUT THE INVOICES. 
          SO I'M JUST SAYING BETWEEN YOU AND I, YOU THAT, LIKE, IF YOU WEREN'T GOING TO INVESTIGATE THE INVOICES, WHY REQUEST THEM THEN IF YOU WEREN'T, IF THEY WEREN'T LEGITIMATE, IF YOU WEREN'T GONNA USE THEM AS SUPPORT? 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THOSE WERE TAKEN INITIALLY AS TRUE. 
          AND THEN IT WAS MADE TO SEEM LIKE THE ARTISTS WERE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY OR THAT THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN PAID WHEN THEY HAD NOT BEEN PAID. 
          I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND DEFER THIS TO HR. 
          I'LL, I'LL HOP INTO AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROACTIVE VEIN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH, LIKE WE, WE CHOSE TO MAKE GOOD FAITH PAYMENTS AS WE WORK THROUGH TO RESOLVE THIS. 
          WE HAVE A BUDGET AT OUR DISPOSAL. 
          AND WHILE WE CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE, THE CALL WE WERE RECEIVING WAS, PLEASE MAKE US WHOLE. 
          WE DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE. 
          AND WE TOOK SOME ACTIONS TO DO THAT WHILE WE ARE EVALUATING, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS HAPPENING INTERNALLY AND, YOU KNOW, WE ABSOLUTELY RECOGNIZE THE ISSUES. 
          UM, AND AS MARJORIE SAID, WE DO TAKE THEM VERY SERIOUSLY. 
          AND, AND IT WILL TAKE US A BIT OF TIME TO WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          BUT WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND ENSURING THAT ALL STAFF AND ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, UM, ARE USING THE PROCESSES IN PLACE AND THAT WE HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY MATRIX THAT HELPS US DO THAT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          WELL, I DIDN'T SEE THAT CONTEXT ANYWHERE. 
          AND I THINK THAT CONTEXT COULD HAVE DEFINITELY WENT TO THE ARTIST BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THAT MEANS THAT THOSE FEES COULD POSSIBLY BE THEN TAKEN BACK OR RESCINDED IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THIS HAS MADE THEM GOOD FAITH WHILE YOU INVESTIGATE. 
          SO I WOULD REALLY, I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMMUNICATION OR VERBIAGE ANYWHERE. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO, TO MITIGATE MORE HARM IF THAT IS THE CASE IN COMMUNICATING THOSE THINGS. 
          AND SECONDLY, THANK YOU FOR 
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COMING TODAY. 
          UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          UH, I DON'T, DON'T APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING FOR ME, UM, IN A MEETING THAT YOU WERE NOT PRESENT FOR. 
          AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO, WE CAN TAKE THAT OFFLINE, BUT, BUT YEAH, I, MARJORIE WAS IN THE MEETING. 
          THERE WERE OTHER CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF, BUT IF YOU WEREN'T IN THE MEETING AND THE MEETING WASN'T RECORDED, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY FAIR TO SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, WE WILL NOT BE RESCINDING ANY PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED. 
          THAT'S A ZERO SUM SCENARIO THAT WILL NOT BE HAPPENING. 
          UM, THE EMAIL YOU'RE REFERRING TO, UH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO REREAD THE WORDS THAT I PUT, BUT I, I BELIEVE I SAID A MEETING TOOK PLACE WITH YOU AND A MEETING TOOK PLACE WITH CHAIR HOUSTON TO REVIEW THE AGENDA. 
          UH, BUT FORGIVE ME IF I MISSPOKE. 
          I WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT IN THE MEETING. 
          I HAD TO BE PULLED INTO ANOTHER REQUIRED MEETING FOR THE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF, IF THAT'S HOW YOU FELT. 
          NO WORRIES. 
          I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE WAS THAT WE WERE ALIGNED IN ALIGNMENT. 
          THAT STATEMENT WAS, WAS NOT TRUE. 
          SO IT WAS A VERY SHORT EMAIL, BUT SAYING THAT WE WERE IN ALIGNMENT WHEN O OBVIOUSLY BASED ON THIS, WE, WE WERE NOT. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT, WHAT WAS OUTTA LINE FOR ME, BUT THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MALDONADO. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          IT'S TRYING TO PROCESS ALL THIS. 
          WHEN I READ THE LETTER, I WOULD, HONESTLY, IT'S REALLY APPALLING WHEN I STARTED READING A LOT OF THE STATEMENTS THAT THE CURATORS AND ARTISTS PROVIDED. 
          I THINK, UH, IF WE SET ASIDE HR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I WORK IN CORPORATE AMERICA, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PROTOCOL, THERE'S HR, THERE'S PRIVACY, WHATNOT. 
          BUT I THINK WHEN THERE'S THIS, UH, VOLUME OF COMPLAINTS COMING IN, AT SOME POINT, UH, A INTERVENTION HAS TO HAPPEN JUST SOONER AS FAR AS LIKE, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? UM, SUSPENSION TRANSFERRING SOMEONE, BRINGING SOMEONE IN TO SUPPORT THE FACILITY AND THE STAFF OR WHATNOT. 
          UM, BUT OVERALL, I THINK JUST AT SOME POINT UNDERSTANDING OR BEING INFORMED OF WHAT THE, UH, IMPROVEMENT OF THOSE PROCESSES ARE GONNA BE. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          IT'S UH, IT'S HONESTLY, IT IS EMBARRASSING TOO BECAUSE REGARDLESS, ARTISTS AND CURATORS ARE GONNA LOOK AT THIS AS THE CITY. 
          THEY DON'T WANNA WORK WITH THE CITY IN REGARDS TO ART. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND TO RESTORE THAT ALSO, WHAT IS THAT PLAN GONNA BE? HOW DO YOU RESTORE THESE RELATIONSHIPS? UM, SO, UH, I'M REALLY INTERESTED AND, AND REALLY WANNA FOLLOW THROUGH AND SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF ALL THIS IS AND, AND SUPPORT, UH, THE ARTISAN CURATORS AND KEYS ON THIS. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY THAT WE WANNA SUPPORT THE ARTISTS AND CURATORS AS WELL. 
          WE ARE WORKING ON ONGOING PROCESSES. 
          WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A CONTRACTING PROCESS THAT WILL SUPPORT THE PAYMENT PROCESS. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THEM TOO. 
          THE ISSUE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK AND MAKING SURE RELATIONSHIPS ARE MENDED, THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME. 
          AND I'M COMMITTED. 
          ACME IS COMMITTED TO MENDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. 
          WE'RE EIGHT MONTHS IN. 
          THE CARVER IN PARTICULAR HAS NOT HAD A MANAGER IN A YEAR OR SOMETHING. 
          UH, THEY ARE GETTING A NEW MANAGER. 
          THERE WILL BE NEW PROCESSES IN PLACE WITH THAT MANAGER AS WELL. 
          I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SORT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPOUNDED, THAT HAVE AFFECTED ALL THINGS, BUT AS SOON AS WE CAN POINT TO THIS REPORT FROM HR, I THINK WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS TO THE NEXT STEPS MOVING FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE ARTISTS HAVE BEEN MADE WHOLE. 
          THERE ARE STEPS IN PROCESS TO PREVENT THIS FROM OH, I'M, GO AHEAD. 
          NO, THERE'S ONE ARTIST WHO I HAVE CONTACTED MULTIPLE TIMES VIA PHONE AND EMAIL THAT I AM NOT ABLE TO PAY UNTIL SHE ISSUES AN INVOICE FROM A SPECIFIC SYSTEM, UH, FOR PAYMENT. 
          AND THEN I CAN PAY THAT INVOICE TO HER. 
          BUT THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. 
          AS SOON AS IT HAPPENS, I WILL REMIT PAYMENT, THE DEPARTMENT WILL REMIT PAYMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AND YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THAT ARTIST, SO YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR A RESPONSE? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER STEPS FOR THE CONTRACTS HAVE, ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF THING FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. 
          I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HAD TO LEAVE 
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THE MEETING. 
          COMMISSIONER GRAY IS OFF THE DAIS. 
          WE'RE NOW MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE 
          [5. Discussion on Commissioner Keys’ request/need for a City public and public/private space utilization report to access the current state, use, and costs of some public and publicprivate multiuse, creative, and recreational facilities/spaces. ]
AGENDA, WHICH IS THE LONG PIECE THAT I TALKED ABOUT REQUESTING A NEED FOR SOME WAY TO GIVE AN ALLOCATION OF PUBLIC PRIVATE SPACE UTILIZATION FOR RECREATIONAL, MOSTLY PRIVATE, MULTI-USE, CREATIVE AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND SPACES. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS IF YOU'D LIKE TO START. 
          UM, YEAH, I JUST THINK IT'S ESSENTIALLY A, A COMPOUND OF A LOT OF THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, EVEN SOME OF THESE BEING MAYBE SYMPTOMS OF THOSE. 
          UM, I THINK WHEN FACILITIES ARE UNDERFUNDED AND UNDERMANAGED THEN, LIKE THEY'RE UNDERUTILIZED. 
          I MEAN THAT, THAT ONLY MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK ONE IN STARTING TO EVALUATE HOW, UM, OUR F LIKE THE FACILITIES ARE RUN, UM, THE COST OF THEM, UM, THE COST OF RENTING, RENTING THEM, AS WELL AS JUST HOW, UM, THEY SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE, BE USED IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK THAT IS WHAT ESSENTIALLY THE EVALUATION REPORT SHOULD BE, BOTH QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE INFORMATION, UM, ON REALLY EVALUATING THESE FACILITIES BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH. 
          THEY ALMOST ALL OF THEM SERVE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, AND WE CAN'T HA GO INTO IT WITH THAT SAME THOUGHT. 
          AND SO I THINK AT LEAST EVALUATING THEM AND ASSESSING THEM GIVES US A GOOD PLACE TO KNOW HOW TO BEST, UM, USE THEM AND WORK ON SOME OF, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN POSE ANY DISCUSSION. 
          COMMISSIONERS I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, AND I THINK MORGAN, YOU'LL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. 
          THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DID A CULTURAL ASSET MAP IN 2018. 
          THAT IS FANTASTIC. 
          IT'S JUST ALMOST 10 YEARS OLD. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN UPDATE THAT? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT STARTING POINT FOR DOING EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER KEYS IS REFERRING TO. 
          YEAH. 
          ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MORGAN MESSICK, UM, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND REVAMPING THAT PROJECT AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE OF THE CITYWIDE STRATEGIC PLAN GOALS. 
          THAT IS THE NEW CITYWIDE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT OUR CITY MANAGER HAS PUT IN PLACE, UM, THAT HAS METRICS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT REPORTS UP. 
          THIS IDEA OF SPACE UTILIZATION IS NOT JUST SOMETHING WE ARE INTERESTED IN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP AT ALL LEVELS OF THE ORGANIZATION ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT AND LIKE WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          UM, WE HAVE LONG WANTED TO UPDATE THE CAMP SURVEY. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY KNOW LAURA ODEGAARD HAD BUILT SOME BUDGET AND TO HELP US WITH THAT. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A TOOL, LIKE A TACTIC THAT WILL HELP US. 
          BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A, AT A BIGGER STRATEGY TO HELP ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE THIS TOOL COULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AS A WHOLE MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO WE WANNA BE THOUGHTFUL, UM, HOW WE APPROACH IT AND BRING THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO THE TABLE TO GET THAT DONE. 
          BUT YES, AND AN IDEA HAS BEEN FLOATED SOMEWHERE ABOUT ACTUALLY CREATING A DATABASE OF SPACES THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS AND JUST SAY, THIS SPACE IS THIS BIG AND IT COSTS THIS MUCH TO RENT. 
          YES. 
          AND WE'VE SEEN THAT KIND OF ON A MICRO SCALE AT LIKE DIFFERENT PLACES. 
          LIKE THE LIBRARY MIGHT HAVE IT JUST FOR THEIR EVENT SPACE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND FOR THE ROOF. 
          AND THEN PARKS HAS IT, UM, FOR SOME OF THEIR SPACES THAT ARE FOR RENT, SOME OF THE BIGGER SPACES THEY RENT UP FOR EVENTS. 
          UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A WAY TO, TO BRING THAT TOGETHER. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL EXACTLY BE LIKE AN APP OR A PLATFORM OR IF THERE'LL BE A CENTRALIZED PLACE OR LIKE, I, I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW WHAT THE BEST VERSION IS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT 'CAUSE THAT IS A USEFUL TOOL AS WELL. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CUES? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO CLOSE OUT? NO, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS. UM, 'CAUSE I DO THINK THEY'RE PRETTY RELEVANT TO THE TIMES AND THE SITUATIONS AND THINGS WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US, UM, TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER. 
          NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS, 
          [6. Staff briefing regarding an update on the Hotel Occupancy Tax by Jesús Pantel, Cultural Funding Supervisor. ]
STARTING WITH STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING THE UPDATE ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX BY JESUS PENTEL, CULTURAL FUNDING SUPERVISOR. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          JESUS PANTEL CULTURAL FUNDING SUPERVISOR. 
          UM, I WILL BE GIVING AN UPDATE ON THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          UM, UH, MY NAME IS JESUS PANTEL, AGAIN, THE CULTURAL FUNDING SUPERVISOR. 
          MY PRONOUNS ARE HE, HIS, I'M A LATINO WITH LONG GRAY HAIR AND SALT AND PEPPER BEARD, WEARING A BLUE SHIRT AND A BLACK SPORTS COAT. 
          UH, WITH THIS PRESENTATION AGAIN, I WILL BE SHARING OUR LATEST HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTION NUMBERS, UH, THROUGH 
          [02:15:01]
SEPTEMBER, 2025. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO THE TOTAL HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTION IN SEPTEMBER WAS $978,315. 
          THIS MEANS OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX CULTURAL ARTS FUND COLLECTION NUMBERS FOR SEPTEMBER WERE $98,571. 
          WITH THESE SEPTEMBER NUMBERS, WE ARE APPROXIMATELY 95% TOWARDS OUR FY 25 APPROVED BUDGET. 
          AND AS A REMINDER, THERE IS A DELAY IN HOW HOT REPORTING HAPPENS. 
          THIS PRESENTATION SHOWS FUNDS COLLECTED IN SEPTEMBER FOR HOTEL STAYS IN AUGUST. 
          UH, AS PART OF OUR ONGOING EFFORT TO STRENGTHEN ANALYSIS OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS, UH, SIGNIFICANT EVENTS IN AUGUST, 2025 ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE. 
          UH, WHILE THIS LIST DOES NOT CAPTURE THE FULL SPECTRUM OF TOURISM DRIVING EVENTS, IT HELPS ENHANCE OUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOT REVENUE TRENDS. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE WE HAD AUSTIN CITY LIMITS HALL OF FAME. 
          THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, UH, BENEFITS, UH, FOR THE CENTRAL TEXAS FLOODS THAT HIT THE AREA. 
          UH, BLUES ON THE GREEN WAS BACK, UH, THE Z OR SUMMER MUSICAL. 
          UM, SOME EVENTS AT CIRCUIT OF THE AMERICAS, WE HAD PBR GAMBLER DAYS AND AUSTIN PRIDE PARADE. 
          UM, IN ADDITION, UM, ACCORDING TO AUSTIN BERGSTROM INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT REPORTS, TOTAL PASSENGER TRAFFIC IN AUGUST, 2025 WAS 1,772,810, WHICH REPRESENTS A 2.74% INCREASE, UH, COMPARED TO AUGUST, 2024. 
          UH, THIS GRAPH SHOWS OUR MONTHLY PROGRESS TOWARDS THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. 
          OUR HOT CULTURAL ARTS FUND, UM, ACTUALS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 ARE $15,430,791. 
          AND AS A REMINDER, THE FUNDS COLLECTED IN FY 25 WILL BE USED TO FUND PROGRAMS IN FISCAL YEAR 2026. 
          I'M ALSO INCLUDING OUR CULTURAL ARTS FUND, HOT COLLECTIONS BY QUARTER FOR THE PAST FEW FISCAL YEARS. 
          UH, THE $15,430,791, UH, FOR FY 25 IN GOLD IS $138,145 LESS THAN WHERE WE WERE THIS TIME IN FISCAL YEAR 24, WHICH CAN BE SH UH, SEEN IN GREEN OR IN GRAY, EXCUSE ME. 
          AND THEN IN COMPARISON, AS A TREND, HOT COLLECTIONS ARE, UH, ALSO $216,570 BELOW THIS TIME IN FY 23, UH, SHOWN HERE IN ORANGE. 
          AND THAT IS THE PRESENTATION COMMISSIONERS. 
          AND I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR SEPTEMBER? UM, SO WE ARE, UM, ABOUT 95% OF OUR WAY TO THE, UM, UH, TO THE GOAL. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, THAT'S A DIFFERENCE. 
          I DON'T, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE PRESENTATION, UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE IT'S SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, UH, RIGHT THERE. 
          SO IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED, UH, WAS, UM, 18 $16,217 AND EIGHT 16,217,879. 
          WE COLLECTED 15.4 MILLION. 
          UM, NOW SINCE WE ARE MOVING SOME OF OUR ACTIVITIES TO A CALENDAR YEAR, UH, THERE ARE PLANS TO, UH, COLLECT, UM, ADDITIONAL HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, BUT WE ARE, UM, A LITTLE BIT DOWN, UH, THAN WHERE WE WERE AGAIN, BOTH, UH, THIS TIME LAST FISCAL YEAR AND THE FISCAL YEAR PRIOR TO THAT. 
          SO IT'S ABOUT 800,000 THAT WERE SHORT. 
          YES, THAT SEEMS TO BE RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          SMALL BOX, SMALL BOX COMMISSIONER. 
          SMALL QUESTION. 
          SHE'S HAD HEADER, SORRY, I CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN. 
          HI, JESUS. 
          HELLO. 
          I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION I ALWAYS HAVE, WHICH IS, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN AT SOME POINT OF HOT COMING FROM CO UH, HO STR COLLECTIONS VERSUS TRADITIONAL HOTEL STAYS AT SOME POINT? UH, SO WE CAN FOLLOW THAT PROGRESS. 
          IT'S THAT PLAN IS IN COLLECTED DIFFERENTLY. 
          YES, THAT PLAN IS IN THE WORKS. 
          UM, AS YOU WERE NOTING, THANK YOU. 
          IT IS INCLUDED, UM, IN THESE NUMBERS HERE, BUT HAVING A DISTINCT, UH, BREAKDOWN, UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME TO DO THAT YET, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S ON OUR RADAR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND JUST REITERATING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE 
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WE GOTTA TRACK LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE COMMISSION CENTER CLOSURES AND START TO SEE THOSE TRENDS. 
          AND IF THE GAP IS BEING FILLED AS IT APPEARS TO BE POTENTIALLY BY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GUESSING BY THE NEW UNIFORM COLLECTION OF STR HOT, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO KNOW AND HAVE A PLAN FOR. 
          'CAUSE IT DOESN'T, YEAH, THEY'RE, WE'RE STILL BELOW EVEN THOUGH WE'RE COLLECTING, UNIFORMLY COLLECTING FROM STR WHETHER THEY'RE REGISTERED OR NOT. 
          SO THAT I WOULD THINK WOULD BE MAKING A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO, IN THE DATA THAT WE SEE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GRAY? YEAH, I JUST WANNA ADD REALLY TO, UM, UH, TO COMMISSIONER SMALL BUCK'S POINT. 
          I THINK THIS IS EITHER THE THIRD OR FOURTH MONTH THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THOSE NUMBERS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT IS, IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO WE KNOW WHERE THE CITY IS GOING AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT. 
          NOTED, ARE THOSE NUMBERS BROKEN OUT SOMEWHERE? IS SOMEBODY TRACKING THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER? DO WE EVEN KNOW? YES, THERE ARE SOME KIND OF BREAKDOWNS THAT I HAVE SEEN BEFORE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AGAIN, IT'S A BIT COMPLICATED AND WITH THE LAUNCH OF THE PROGRAMS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT YES, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT IS IN OUR RADAR. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, JESUS. 
          MOVING 
          [7. Staff briefing regarding update on the Cultural Arts Funding Programs by Jesús Pantel, Cultural Funding Supervisor. ]
NOW ON TO STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING UPDATE ON CULTURAL ARTS FUNDING PROGRAMS BY JESUS PENTEL, CULTURAL FUNDING SUPERVISOR. 
          ALL RIGHT, AND I'M STILL HERE FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION. 
          AGAIN, I WILL BE GIVING AN UPDATE NOW ON THE CULTURAL ARTS UH, FUNDING PROGRAM. 
          AND I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS AND PAYMENTS AS WELL AS GRANT FUNDED ACTIVITIES, UH, FOR CONTRACTS AND PAYMENTS. 
          UH, WE ARE, WE'VE CLOSED OUT A FEW MORE, UM, FINAL REPORTS, UM, THAT ARE OVERDUE AND ARE IN THE FINAL STRETCHES OF THOSE THAT REMAIN. 
          UM, SO WE ARE ON TRACK TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE DONE IN TIME FOR, UM, UH, THE NEW ROUND OF ELEVATE, UH, THAT IS OPENING TOMORROW, WHICH, UH, LAURA ODEGAARD WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT, UM, IN A BIT. 
          UM, SO JUST A HANDFUL REMAIN AND WE ARE IN GOOD PROGRESS, UM, WITH, UH, GETTING THOSE, UH, FINALLY CLOSED OUT. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE NUMBERS HERE. 
          UM, IT'S JUST A HANDFUL, 97, 90 8%, UH, COMPLETION. 
          SO ALMOST THERE. 
          AND THEN FOR GRANT FUNDED ACTIVITIES, UM, WE HAVE, UM, A FEW, UH, THIS GO AROUND. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THINGS THAT OCCUR, UH, BETWEEN, UH, THIS ARTS COMMISSION MEETING AND YOUR ARTS COMMISSION MEETING IN NOVEMBER. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE EVENTS BY FOLKLORE, MOS DE PANAMA, AUSTIN LATIN DANCE CULTURAL HERITAGE PROJECT, UH, GROUNDWORK MUSIC PROJECT, AS WELL AS URBAN ECHO. 
          AND I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER GRAY, I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY FOR THE FIRST STAGE OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS OF GETTING INFORMATION IN AND HOPE YOU GET SLEEP TONIGHT WHEN IT LAUNCHES TOMORROW. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THE PROCESS. 
          THAT IS GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF THERE'S NOTHING MORE FOR JESUS, WE'RE GONNA LET YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. 
          [8. Staff briefing regarding an update on the AACME Funding Programs Application Cycle by Laura Odegaard, Acting Division Manager, AACME. ]
MOVING ON TO STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING AN UPDATE ON THE ACME FUNDING PROGRAMS APPLICATION CYCLE BY LAURA ODEGAARD, ACTING DIVISION MANAGER, ACME. 
          HELLO, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          HAPPY TO BE BACK WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT. 
          UH, MY NAME IS LAURA ODEGAARD. 
          I AM ACTING, UH, DIVISION MANAGER OF THE, UH, NEW DEPARTMENT AUSTIN ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. 
          SO THAT'S EXCITING TO COME BACK TO. 
          UM, SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON THE CULTURAL FUNDING OR THE ACME FUNDING PROGRAMS UPDATE. 
          I'M WORKING ON MY LANGUAGE, BUT WE'LL GET THERE. 
          UM, SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE WAS A MAJOR INITIATIVE THAT WAS IN THE SPRING AND SUMMER AFTER ACNE WAS FORMED CALLED THE CREATIVE RESET PHASE ONE. 
          UM, THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO KIND OF LOOK AT, UM, SOME OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE AROUND THAT, WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY EXCITING. 
          YOU ALL KNOW I'M A VISUAL PERSON. 
          UM, SO WE HAD OVER 11,000 COMMENTS THROUGH COMMUNITY INPUT. 
          UM, EVERYTHING IS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, UM, FROM OUR PHASE ONE, SO EXCITING LINKS HERE. 
          UM, AND ALL OF THIS COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THEN LED TO OUR FUNDING PROGRAM GUIDELINES. 
          UM, AND THESE GUIDELINES INCLUDED CLEAR DEFINITIONS, CLEAR 
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CRITERIA, UM, MORE SIMPLIFIED PROCESSES AND MORE ACCESSIBLE RESOURCES ACROSS ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS IN ACME. 
          SO NOT JUST CAD PROGRAMS, ALL OF THE PROGRAMS. UM, SO YOU CAN LEARN MORE AT OUR WEBSITE, WHICH IS THE LANDING PAGE FOR ALL OF THE ACME GRANTS. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO LINKS HERE, QUICK LINKS TO THE ENGLISH GUIDELINES AND THE SPANISH GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          UH, SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE IN PROGRAM LAUNCH PHASE NOW, WHICH IS EXCITING. 
          SO WE HAD THE MEMO TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT WENT OUT ON OCTOBER 8TH, AND I FORWARDED TO YOU ALL LAST WEEK. 
          UM, AND THEN THE FORMAL LAUNCH OF INFORMATION HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF DIRECT COMMUNICATION LEADING UP TO THIS POINT. 
          UH, ONE THING THAT'S NEW THIS YEAR THAT HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS AWARE OF NOW, IS THAT THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS MULTI-STAGE. 
          SO FIRST THERE IS THE INTAKE FORM AND THEN THE ELIGIBILITY FORM AND THEN THE APPLICATION FORM. 
          SO PLEASE DO NOT START YOUR INTAKE FORM AND THINK YOU HAVE COMPLETED YOUR APPLICATION. 
          THERE IS MORE TO DO. 
          UH, SO THE INTAKE AND ELIGIBILITY FORM, THEY WENT LIVE ON OCTOBER 14TH AND THEN TOMORROW, AS JESUS JUST MENTIONED, THE ACTUAL APPLICATION OPENS. 
          UM, SO FOLKS THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE THEIR INTAKE FORM WILL THEN GET, UH, IN THEIR ELIGIBILITY FORM, WILL THEN BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR APPLICATION STARTING TOMORROW AT 10:00 AM. 
          UH, AND THEN THE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION INTAKE FORM IS ON DECEMBER 4TH AT 6 59. 
          AND YOU ALL KNOW, AND WE WILL SAY THIS, UM, NEXT MONTH AS WELL. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE START EARLY WITH YOUR APPLICATION. 
          DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT. 
          UH, JUST A QUICK VISUAL THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE RIGHT NOW. 
          JUST AS A REMINDER ABOUT WHAT THIS TIMELINE IS ABOUT. 
          THE INTAKE OPENED ON THE 14TH, UH, APPLICATION OPENS TOMORROW. 
          UH, INTAKE FORM FOR THE APPLICATION CLOSES DECEMBER 4TH, AND THEN JANUARY WILL BE SPENT DOING THE EVALUATION AND SCORING. 
          FEBRUARY WILL BE THE AWARD NOTIFICATIONS. 
          AND THEN MARCH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING FIRST PAYMENTS FOR AWARDEES. 
          AND I WILL NOTE, UM, SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TIMELINE RIGHT HERE, WE HAVE A BUILT IN APPEALS PROCESS. 
          SO FOR YOUR JANUARY MEETING, YOU'LL WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ESTABLISH AN APPEALS WORKING GROUP. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT FOR YOU CHAIR. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, AND THEN SINCE PART OF, UH, PART OF THE NEW PROGRAM LAUNCHES, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CALENDAR FOR, UM, FOR COMMUNITY WELL IN ADVANCE. 
          SO THE NEXT THREE YEARS WORTH OF, UH, GRANT LAUNCHES FOR ACME IS ON THIS SLIDE. 
          UM, SO AS I JUST MENTIONED, TOMORROW IS WHEN WE HAVE ELEVATE LAUNCHING, UH, AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND, THE CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT. 
          AND THEN NEXT YEAR IN 2026, NEXUS WILL BE LAUNCHING IN MARCH. 
          IN JULY, WE WILL HAVE THE NEXT ROUND OF ELEVATE AS WELL AS THE NEXT ROUND OF THRIVE, AS WELL AS HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT AND AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC FUND. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND ROUND OF NEXUS NEXT YEAR WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER. 
          AND THEN SIMILARLY IN 2027, IT MIRRORS A COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO THINGS WHERE THRIVE WILL NOT BE OPEN, BUT CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WILL BE OPEN IN JULY. 
          AND SO YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE JULY, UM, APPLICATION DATES ARE EARLIER THAN THE OCTOBER, UM, WHICH WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS YEAR WE WERE, UH, WELL INTO THE CREATIVE RESET PHASE ONE. 
          UM, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO LAUNCH THE PROGRAMS UNTIL THIS MONTH, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO LAUNCH THOSE EARLIER IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE JANUARY TO DECEMBER, UM, AND FOLKS ARE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE YEAR STARTING. 
          UM, ALSO WANTED TO MAKE NOTE TO YOU ALL TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD, UM, THAT WE HAVE A VARIETY OF WORKSHOPS, UM, PLANNED AND MORE TO BE COMING SOON. 
          UM, SO OUR FIRST WORKSHOP IS VIRTUAL, AND TOMORROW EVENING IT'S 6:00 PM. 
          UM, THE WORKSHOP HEADING THERE IS A HYPERLINK AND IT WILL TAKE YOU TO OUR EVENTBRITE, UM, WHICH IS ALSO LINKED FROM OUR LANDING PAGE FOR THE ACME GRANTS. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WILL SHOW YOU THE WHOLE COLLECTION OF, UM, SCHEDULED SO FAR. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE TWO IN-PERSON EVENTS THIS WEEK AND ONE VIRTUAL EVENT THIS WEEK. 
          SO PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD. 
          THERE WILL BE STAFF FROM THE ELEVATE CULTURAL FUNDING TEAM, AS WELL AS STAFF FROM THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION TEAM AND STAFF FROM THE MUSIC TEAM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL FOUR OF THOSE GRANT PROGRAMS. UM, ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE DOING OFFICE HOURS, OPEN OFFICE HOURS EVERY TUESDAY DURING AN OPEN, UM, 
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APPLICATION PERIOD. 
          SO EVERY TUESDAY, UM, THROUGH DECEMBER 11TH, WE WILL HAVE OUR OPEN OFFICE HOURS FROM 10 TO NOON AS USUAL. 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S A LINK THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE ZOOM ROOM. 
          UM, AGAIN, THAT'S ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE'LL ALSO BE HAVING THREE ALL DAY SESSIONS, UM, WHERE FOLKS CAN, CAN MEET WITH STAFF AND TALK THROUGH THINGS. 
          SO THAT'LL BE DECEMBER 4TH, THE NINTH, AND THEN THE 11TH. 
          UM, YES, CHAIR, THE NINTH AND THE 11TH, OR AFTER THE APPLICATION CLOSES. 
          SO THE FOURTH IS WHEN THE INTAKE FORM CLOSES. 
          SO FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T STARTED, THEY NEED TO GET THAT INTAKE AND ELIGIBILITY FORM IN BY THE FOURTH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE SYSTEM WILL SHUT DOWN. 
          BUT EVERYONE THAT HAS STARTED AND HAS DONE THE INTAKE AND ELIGIBILITY FORMS AND ARE WORKING ON THEIR APPLICATION, THEY HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER 11TH AT 6 59 TO COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATION AND FINISH THEIR UPLOADS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE NEW THIS YEAR, UM, WE HAVE A BOOKING LINK. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A, AN APPOINTMENT DIRECTLY WITH STAFF IN ANY OF THE PROGRAMS OR JUST TO TALK IN GENERAL, UM, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE BOOKING LINK AGAIN ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT MADE HERE FOR EASY ACCESS, UM, AND SCHEDULE A MEETING AND IT'LL JUST SLAP IT ON STAFF'S CALENDARS. 
          UM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. 
          WE'LL JUST SHOW UP AND BE READY TO TALK ALL THINGS FUNDING PROGRAMS. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR PARTNERS, UM, THE LONG CENTER. 
          THEY HAVE, UM, THEIR DEDICATED EMAIL AND DE DEDICATED PHONE LINE HERE. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR ASSISTANCE IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, AND ANOTHER THING WE'RE TRYING REALLY HARD TO DO AS THIS NEW ACME DEPARTMENT IS TO BE IN COMMUNITY MORE. 
          AND SO AS PART OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE US, UM, OUT IN COMMUNITY AT EVENTS THAT ARE AT THE DIFFERENT CULTURAL CENTERS, UM, AND OTHER EVENTS, UM, JUST IN GENERAL WITH LITTLE POSTCARDS SAYING, PLEASE APPLY TO THESE PROGRAMS. UM, SO HOPE TO SEE YOU LOTS IN THESE NEXT FEW MONTHS. 
          UH, AND THEN FINALLY, JUST WANTED TO HAVE A SEPARATE SLIDE FOR LANGUAGE ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND SO THIS IS IN, UM, THE DECK THAT STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING AT WORKSHOPS AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT JUST TO POINT OUT WHERE THERE ARE ENGLISH AND SPANISH ASSISTANTS ALREADY BUILT IN. 
          UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE SPANISH SPEAKERS AT THE LONG CENTER ARE HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH ANY TECHNICAL ISSUES, ANY APPLICATION ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, WE'RE PRE CREATING EDITABLE FILLABLE APPLICATION FORMS IN SPANISH, CHINESE, VIETNAMESE, KOREAN, UM, AND OTHERS CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE UPON REQUESTS. 
          SO JUST LET US KNOW IF ANYONE NEEDS A LANGUAGE BEYOND THOSE. 
          UM, WORKSHOP RECORDINGS WILL BE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. 
          AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT FOLKS WANT, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THOSE RECORDINGS AND OTHER LANGUAGES. 
          UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE, UM, DIFFERENT RESOURCES ON THE LONG CENTER'S WEBSITE. 
          SO THAT'S THE CREATE AUSTIN.ORG/RESOURCES. 
          AND SO THAT WILL HAVE THINGS, UM, LIKE HOW TO WRITE AN ARTIST INFO STATEMENTS. 
          UM, AND SO IT'LL BE SOME TIPS AND, AND THINGS FROM STAFF THAT THE LONG CENTER HAS THEN TURNED INTO RESOURCE GUIDES FOR APPLICANTS. 
          SO THOSE WILL BE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. 
          UM, AND ALSO JUST HERE IS HOW, UM, FOLKS THAT NEED A SL INTERPRETATION CAN GO ABOUT GETTING THAT ASSISTANCE. 
          AND WE'RE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON IDENTIFYING A DATE FOR AN IN-PERSON, UH, WORKSHOP WITH A SL INTERPRETER AND ALWAYS OPEN, UM, TO SUGGESTIONS FROM YOU ALL AS WELL. 
          AND THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL TODAY. 
          IT'S EXCITING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS WAITING FOR THE SCREENS TO COME BACK UP SO I CAN SEE PEOPLE ONLINE. 
          I DON'T SEE ANY. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE. 
          UM, FIRST WE NEED THE, THE, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE WORKING GROUP BY THE JANUARY MEETING OR WE NEED TO HAVE IT SET UP BY THE JANUARY MEETING. 
          SO WE NEED TO VOTE IT ON IT IN DECEMBER. 
          YOU NEED TO VOTE ON IT IN JANUARY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HERITAGE PRESERVATION IS UNDER ACME, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER GOTTEN ANY REPORTS ABOUT THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANTING PROCESS. 
          IS THAT OUR PURVIEW? I AM NOT SURE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO INVITE, UH, OUR COLLEAGUES IN NEXT MONTH TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          WILL YOU TAKE BACK TO THEM BEFORE YOU DO THAT? MM-HMM . 
          THAT, THAT I GOT FROM MY COUNCIL OFFICE. 
          UM, SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE STRICTURE ON THE FINAL REPORT, HAVING TO BE IN BEFORE THE NEXT APPLICATION CAN BE 
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APPLIED FOR, BECAUSE SOMEHOW THEY STACK THEIR STUFF AND IT'S GONNA CAUSE A PROBLEM. 
          I, I TOLD 'EM I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD  HI. 
          HI, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MORGAN MESSICK, THAT, UM, IS COMING OFF OF OUR FUTURE CONTRACTS. 
          THAT IS AN EDIT THAT WAS MADE, UM, GOING INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO THAT CHANGE HAS BEEN MADE. 
          WE GOT THAT FEEDBACK FROM SEVERAL OF OUR CONTRACTORS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE COMMISSION'S ALWAYS WELCOME TO GIVE FEEDBACK. 
          WE TAKE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WORK THROUGH THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. 
          UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER COMMISSION. 
          WE DON'T STAFF IT DIRECTLY. 
          UM, THE PLANNING OFFICE DOES, BUT WE, WE TAKE ALL OF OUR MATERIALS THROUGH THERE AND PARTNER WITH THEM, UM, AND THE SAME WAY THAT WE PARTNER WITH YOU, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. 
          ALWAYS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I DID. 
          I I KIND OF NUDGED MYSELF. 
          I THINK THAT THAT MAYBE LANDMARK, YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK WITH THEM. 
          . 
          I JUST, I DIDN'T WANNA TAKE THAT ON. 
          AND THEN, UM, IF YOU WOULD UPDATE THAT, UH, KEY DATES TO SHOW THAT INTAKE ELIGIBILITY CLOSES DECEMBER 4TH, APPLICATION CLOSES DECEMBER 11TH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE AS I WAS CONFUSED, PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE CONFUSED. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          , ANYONE ELSE? I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL TODAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS. 
          SERIOUSLY, YOU GUYS JUST WANTED TO ECHO THAT. 
          LIKE REALLY PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK. 
          IT WAS REALLY A JOY TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AND SEE EVERYTHING SO CLEARLY LAID OUT. 
          UM, THE, UM, AND I APPRECIATE, I KNOW THIS IS HAPPENS OFTEN, BUT THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS AT THE BASE OF THAT PAGE, I THINK WAS A LOVELY, WITH A LINK TO THE CULTURAL FUNDING REPORT, LIKE, WAS JUST NICE TO SEE THAT LIKE THE NEEDLE HAS BEEN THREADED ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND EVERYTHING JUST FELT REALLY INTENTIONAL. 
          SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR WORK. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WE ARE NOW MOVING TO, OH, SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER GRAY. 
          JUST A REALLY QUICK POINT. 
          UM, THE DETAIL OF THE DEADLINES FROM THE FOURTH TO 11TH MAY HAVE BEEN AN INTENTIONAL BUFFER. 
          I'M NOT SO SURE IT WOULD BE SMART. 
          YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU THINK THE DEADLINE'S TRULY EARLY OR IT MAY BE A SMART THING TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. 
          THIS IS TRUE. 
          THIS IS TRUE. 
          YEAH. 
          TRICK YOUR MIND. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE STAFF 
          [9. Staff briefing regarding an update on Art in Public Places by Jaime Castillo, Art in Public Places Manager. ]
BRIEFING REGARDING AN UPDATE ON ART AND PUBLIC PLACES BY JAIME CASTILLO, ART AND PUBLIC PLACES MANAGER. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          JAIME CASTILLO, MANAGER FOR ART AND PUBLIC PLACES FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN AUSTIN'S ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION IN MARCH ASKING US TO DO A PROGRAM ASSESSMENT THAT, THAT MET A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT PROGRAM ASSESSMENT. 
          WE HAVE FORMED A, A CROSS DEPARTMENTAL WORKING GROUP. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE A IPB PANEL. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT MY UPDATE THIS MONTH IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS MONTH . 
          WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. 
          WE'RE STILL GETTING THAT THOSE FINAL, UH, CHECKS ON, ON THE RED LINE DOCUMENTS THAT DRAFT RED LINE DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH, WITH OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR TO FINALIZE THOSE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, BRING THOSE FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT SINCE I'M HERE, I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, UH, OF THE TDOT MEMO THAT THAT GOT RELEASED, UH, RE REGARDING STREET MURALS, STREET MARKINGS, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THAT MEMO. 
          AND I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO KNOW, BE AWARE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH AUSTIN'S TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, TO FORMULATE HOW WE WILL RESPOND TO THAT MEMO. 
          WOULD YOU E THAT ELABORATE? 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING FROM TRANSPORTATION. 
          OH, UM, OCTOBER 8TH, TEXT DOT SENT A MEMO OUT TO, I GUESS TO ALL MUNICIPALITIES AND, AND COUNTIES REGARDING STREET MARKINGS TO, UH, REMOVE ANY-ANYTHING THAT'S NOT, OH, YOU TAKE THE BLACK ART MATTERS AND, AND OKAY. 
          YES. 
          THAT ONE AND THAT COUNT AND THE, THAT IT COUNTS FOR UT AS WELL. 
          ALL THE STREETS. 
          YES. 
          THE STREETS ARE, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, SO, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT ENOUGH? ENOUGH ELABORATION NEEDED? I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I I DID HEAR ABOUT THAT ONE. 
          YES. 
          ANY QUESTION? WAS THAT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION? THAT, THAT'S MY BRIEFING? YES. 
          ABOUT THAT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAIME ON THE BRIEFING? ? SHORT AND SWEET. 
          OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE, RIGHT? AND YOU JUST STAY RIGHT THERE JAIME. 
          WE'RE GONNA APPROVE 
          [13. Approve the recommended two new members to the Art in Public Places Panel]
THE RECOMMENDED TWO NEW MEMBERS TO THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PANEL. 
          HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW COMMISSIONER DE GRAY? I WOULD JUST ACTUALLY LIKE 
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TO MOVE TO APPROVE 13 AND 14 ON CONSENT. 
          UH, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE MEETING SCHEDULE. 
          WHERE'S THE MEETING SCHEDULE? UH, COMMISSIONER GRAY, COMMISSIONER GRAY HAS MOVED THAT 13 AND 14 AS WRITTEN, BE APPROVED ON CONSENT. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SIMAN. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? EVERYONE GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MEETING DATES AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD. 
          SO EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE AT EVERY MEETING. 
           THE BEST. 
          OKAY, CALL IN THE QUESTION TO APPROVE THE TWO NEW MEMBERS OF THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PANEL AND THE 2026 ARTS COMMISSION MEETING. 
          SCHEDULE ALL AND CONSENT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SEPARATE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? I SEE NONE OPPOSED KEYS IN SCHACH. 
          ARE YOU, UH, UH, IN FAVOR, SCHACH? I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE MEETING SCHEDULE. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING TOO, SORRY. 
          I'M GONNA TRUST, I'M GONNA TRUST EVERYONE ELSE. 
           AND GO. 
          HOW ABOUT THEY'RE PRETTY STANDARD TOO. 
          HOW ABOUT WE DO 13 ON CONSENT AND JUST LOOK AT 14? LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE JUST DOING 14 ON CONSENT. 
          TWO NEW MEMBERS TO THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PANEL. 
          AN ARCHITECT AND AN ARTIST. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? YOU GOT TWO NEW MEMBERS OF YOUR PANEL. 
          JAIME, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NOW LOOKING AT THE MEETING 
          [14. Approve 2026 Arts Commission Meeting Schedule]
SCHEDULE FOR 2026. 
          IT IS IN YOUR BACKUP UNDER ITEM 14. 
          WE'RE MOVING JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS. 
          WHAT'S HAPPENING ON MARCH 23RD SOUTH BY FOR THE 23RD? OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE DATES. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT LOOKS STRANGE? SEEING NO OBJECTIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DATES. 
          I SEE. 
          COMMISSIONER HUSSAINI. 
          CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? I JUST, I CAN'T NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          MARCH 20TH. 
          UM, THAT WEEKEND THERE'S A MUSLIM RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY AND SO I THINK THE 23RD AFTER THAT IS A MONDAY. 
          SO IF WE CAN MOVE THAT ONE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO MOVE THE 23RD? YEAH, JUST BECAUSE UM, THERE'S A RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY THAT WEEKEND AND SOMETIMES IT'S A THREE DAY LONG THING AND THERE'S A LUNAR CALENDAR AND SO IT'S JUST EASIER TO HAVE IT ON ANOTHER DAY. 
          I CAN EXPLAIN MORE IF YOU NEED MORE CONTEXT. 
          OH, NO, NO. 
          IF IT'S EITHER RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS OR RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS, 16TH WAS A PROBLEM. 
          I THINK THAT ONLY LEAVES, THAT ONLY LEAVES THE 30TH IN MARCH. 
          YEAH, THAT ONLY LEAVES THE 30TH UNLESS WE MOVE IT FORWARD TO THE NINTH. 
          BUT THAT'S SOUTH BY, ISN'T IT SOUTH BY TWO WEEKENDS? YEAH, TWO WEEKS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          LEAVE IT ON THE 23RD AND MAYBE I WON'T COME. 
          WE ACKNOWLEDGE RELIGIOUS CONSIDERATIONS IN BEING ABSENT FROM A MEETING. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE TO BE ABSENT, WE UNDERSTAND. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UHHUH. 
           FOR SURE. 
          ALSO, WE FOLLOW THE LUNAR CALENDAR SO IT'S HARD TO PLAN SO WE CAN KEEP GOING. 
          , RIGHT? . 
          SO WHICH IS THE MONDAY FOR DECEMBER? UH, WAS IT DECEMBER IS THE 21ST? THAT'S THE THIRD MONDAY THE THIRD CAN BE, IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THE DATES THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED SO FAR? ACKNOWLEDGING THE COMMISSIONER? HUSAIN MIGHT BE OUT. 
          I DO THINK FOR DECEMBER, THAT'S THE WEEK OF, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK THAT'S A WEEK WHEN PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION OR PTO OR SCHOOL'S OUT AND ALL THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          LIKE, SO UNFORTUNATELY FOR DECEMBER, THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN MOVE IT IS THE 14TH BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE IT TO THE 28TH. 
          'CAUSE THEN THAT RUNS INTO, I 
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I THINK THE 14TH SOUNDS MORE REALISTIC. 
          UH, BESIDES THE 21ST, MY 2 CENTS. 
          IS THAT A MOTION? YES, THAT IS A MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND MOVE THE 21ST OF THE 14TH IN DECEMBER. 
          MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MAL MALDONADO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GRAY TO MOVE DECEMBER MEETING TO THE 14TH. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? CAN WE GET THAT ON THE CALENDAR? JESUS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, SO WE WERE CHANGING DECEMBER TO THE 14TH. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, I'M GONNA CALL THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? AND WE'VE GOT OUR SCHEDULE FOR THE 2026 MEETINGS, LAST TWO. 
          AND WE ONLY HAVE 
          [15. Update from joint Arts/Music Commission Working Group on Urban Core Issues with Commissioners Schmalbach, and Gray(chair).]
ONE  UPDATE FROM JOINT ARTS COMMISSION, MUSIC COMMISSION WORKING GROUP ON URBAN CORE ISSUES WITH COMMISSIONER, SMALL BLACK AND GRAY GRAY CHAIR. 
          UH, YES, WE'VE JUST HAD A MEETING ON THE 16TH AND THERE WAS OBSERVATIONS AND INFORMATION GATHERING SESSIONS AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE STR, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT PERCENTAGES OF HOT FUNDS THAT CAME UP EARLIER IN THE MEETING, AS WELL AS THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, RELATIVE TO HOT FUNDS AND DEBT RATIO TO THOSE HOT FUNDS AND DEBT. 
          AS WELL AS A LITTLE, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CAP AND STITCH AND WHERE THAT SETS. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE. 
          THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE NO ITEM 16 BECAUSE WE HAVE SUNSET, THAT WORKING GROUP AND THAT WORKING GROUP HAS NOT MET. 
          SO WE DO NOT HAVE AN ITEM 16. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE GOOD OF ART IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? I DON'T SEE ANY, Y'ALL. 
          SO BEFORE WE GO, I'M REMINDING YOU THAT THERE IS AN ELECTION COMING UP. 
          YES, EARLY VOTING HAS STARTED AND WE'LL CONTINUE THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST. 
          YOU CAN VOTE RIGHT HERE IN CITY HALL AT MOST CITY LIBRARIES AND AT MANY GROCERY STORES AROUND TOWN. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE VOTE EARLY OR VOTE ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE FOURTH. 
          IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT TO THE WELFARE OF OUR CITY THAT YOU VOTE. 
          PLEASE DO SO WITH NOTHING FURTHER FOR THE GOOD OF ART IN THE CITY. 
          I'M ADJOURNING THE MEETING AT 8 52. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.