Dec 10, 2025 Tourism Commission

ALRIGHT FOLKS, WE'RE MOVING ON TO A STAFF READING FROM MS. BURLESON WHO HAS SOME IN CRITICAL NEWS FOR US TODAY.

ANNA? UH, OCION.

COMMISSIONER OCION.

AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

UM, SO IS ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THE ITEMS? NO DISCUSSION.

SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THE MINUTES IN TOTAL AS IS EVERYONE VOTE? AYE.

IN FAVOR? EVERYONE IN FAVOR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

GREAT.

SUPER DUPER.

[2. Staff briefing from Staff Liaison, Felicia Burleson, regarding commission board recent vacancy filled and status, deadlines, resources, and updates.]

GOOD NEWS.

ITEM NUMBER THREE ON HERE.

UM, I WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE TODAY.

UM, WE HAVE THE AGENDA IN THE MINUTES.

WE HAVE THE ROADMAP WORKSHEET.

WE HAVE FOR THE WORKSHEET.

WE HAVE COMMISSIONER WEBB'S INPUT SINCE HE'S NOT IN TODAY.

WE HAVE THE BYLAWS FOR THE TOURISM COMMISSION BOARD, JUST AS A REVIEW AND THEN A REVIEW OVER WHAT THE ROBERT RULES OF ORDER ARE.

UM, I DO WANT TO ALSO MENTION THAT I HAVE YET TO HEAR FROM CITY CLERK'S OFFICE REGARDING OUR REQUEST FOR MEETING SPACE.

SO AS SOON AS I HEAR FROM THEM, I WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE CHECK YOUR, UM, BC ACCOUNTS AND BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, 1ST OF JANUARY WOULD BE GREAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE HAVING OUR MEETING.

IF WE DO NOT GET THIS SPACE, I WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME THAT WE REQUESTED.

AND I WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION IF, IF AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED.

UM, I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT TODAY WE WILL BE HAVING ELECTIONS FOR YOUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

UM, THIS IS BECAUSE OF AN EMERGENCY CALL REGARDING DANIEL'S DEPARTURE.

WE ARE HAVING THIS TODAY.

UM, WE WILL STILL HAVE TO HAVE ONE IN APRIL AS PLANNED.

UM, THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD FROM ALL COMMISSIONERS, UM, COMMISSION BOARDS I SHOULD SAY.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY ROLE, AND THEN YOU'LL, UM, HAVE TO VOTE AGAIN IN APRIL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT REMINDER TO YOU AND, UM, HAVE A GOOD MEETING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, MS. BURLESON.

UM, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

SO, UH, AS FAR AS HAVING TO VOTE NOW, AS, AS A STOP GAP, JUST TO GET, MAKE SURE WE HAVE ARE IN COMPLIANCE AND THAT WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE ANNUAL, UH, OFFICER VOTE AGAIN IN APRIL.

SO, GREAT.

UM, I SEE WE HAVE DISCUSSION

[3. Discussion regarding the Tourism Commission Board vacancies.]

I WANNA JUMP TO THAT.

UH, JUST TO REITERATE, WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES CURRENTLY ON THE COMMISSION.

THEY REPRESENT DISTRICT FOUR AND DISTRICT NINE.

UH, MS. BOEN CAN, IF YOU CAN REMIND ME, WERE THERE ALREADY COMMUNICATES IN MOTION BETWEEN, UH, CHAIRMAN RONAN AND BOTH OF THOSE COMMISS COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT FILLING THESE POSITIONS? I, I, I KNOW I WAS COPIED HERE AND THERE ON A FEW, I JUST KIND OF LOST TRACK ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT.

YEAH, THE COMMUNICATION HAS HAPPENED, BUT THERE'S NO NO BEEN ON DECISIONS.

NO DECISIONS.

THE FIRST YEAR WHAT ROLE I GUESS I SHOULD PLAY IN LEADING OUTREACH SOMEHOW WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE, TO, TO, TO HAVE A FULL COMMISSION, ALL THE SEATS FILLED.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND I'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AT

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SO, UM, WE'LL KEEP THAT, WE'LL KEEP THAT WITH OUR AGENDA, I THINK MOVING FORWARD UNTIL WE ACCOMPLISH IT.

THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE HAD SOME VACANCIES FILLED AND WE'VE GOT SOME NEW TEAM MEMBERS, WHICH IS GREAT.

FRESH BLOOD, FRESH THINKING.

WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT.

UM, SO, UM, I GUESS NOW WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA

[4. Conduct officer elections for the Chair and Vice Chair.]

GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND IT'S CONDUCTION OF, UH, OFFICERS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AGAIN FOR THE TEMPORARY GAP BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL.

SO WE'LL CALL THIS ABOUT A FOUR MONTH TOUR OF DUTY FOR THOSE ELECTED.

AND I GUESS I WOULD JUST WANNA START IT OFF WITH KIT.

DO I HAVE, WE WANNA DO, LET'S START WITH THE VICE CHAIR POSITION AND THEN GO TO CHAIR IN THAT SEQUENCE, IF THAT'S OKAY.

AND I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR ANYONE WHO HAS A NOMINATION IF YOU WANT.

ANYBODY WANNA NOMINATE ANYBODY? UH, COMMISSIONER PENOC.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MASTERS IF SHE WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO TAKE THAT ROLE.

WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A RECOMMENDATION FOR VICE CHAIR FOR COMMISSIONER MASTERS.

DO WE HAVE ANY, ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS, UH, INTEREST IN APPLYING FOR THAT POSITION? GOING, GOING, GONE.

WELL THEN I GUESS WE NEED OFFICIAL VOTE ON THE MATTER.

UM, SO DO I SECOND THAT MATTER? WELL, I'M JUST GONNA ASK FOR A MOTION NOW.

A, A FULL MOTION.

SHE DID A MOTION TO RECOMMEND HER.

I'M BASICALLY MOTIONING DOING A MOTION TO A APPROVE THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER MASTERS TO FILL THE VICE CHAIR POSITION.

YOU ACCEPT, I GUESS.

I ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.

YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.

I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SAY A FEW WORDS AFTER OUR VOTE, IF THAT'S OKAY.

UM, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF, UH, COMMISSIONER MASTERS, UH, STEPPING UP INTO THE VICE CHAIR POSITION, PLEASE AFFIRM BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THAT HAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THIS GROUP AND WITH SOME AMOUNT OF ENTHUSIASM I SEE ON EVERYONE'S FACE, SO, SO THAT'S AWESOME.

WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS.

BUT I, I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER MASTERS A LITTLE BIT LAST WEEK, AND I, I'VE LEARNED SOME REALLY COOL THINGS ABOUT HER THAT I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW AND I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, UH, BEING ALREADY IN THE ROLE HERE.

BUT, UH, I, I THINK SHE'S GONNA BRING SOME REALLY GOOD, UH, BALANCE TO THE POSITION AND WILL HELP HER SKILL SETS CERTAINLY OFFSET MINE.

BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE A WANNA SAY A COUPLE WORDS ABOUT WHY YOU, REMIND US WHY YOU CAME TO COMMISSION AND WHY THIS APPEALS TO YOU TO GO AHEAD AND STEP INTO THIS ROLE? THANKS.

WELL, THANKS EVERYONE.

UM, AND, UH, SO I GET SOME OF THE, THE BACKGROUND THAT ED AND I TALKED ABOUT.

UM, I DON'T COME FROM THE INDUSTRY.

I THINK MOST FOLKS KNOW THAT I COME FROM GOVERNMENTS, BUT ALREADY SO FAR, AT LEAST IN THE SIX OR SO MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, I THINK WHAT'S BEEN THE MOST HELPFUL IS THE FACT THAT I HAVE COME FROM GOVERNMENT.

UM, I'VE WORKED AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL.

AND SO, UM, ALTHOUGH, UH, WE ARE FAM GOVERNMENT STAFF ARE KIND OF FAMOUSLY EXPERTS ON NOTHING.

UH, THE THE BENEFIT IS THAT I KNOW WHO ALL THE EXPERTS ARE AND I CAN AT LEAST CALL AND FIND OUT WHO THAT PERSON IS OR THAT PERSON CAN REFER ME TO THE PERSON.

AND, UM, OF COURSE OUR CITY IS, UH, RUN ON POLITICS.

AND SO I HAVE THE ADDED BENEFIT OF KNOWING A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WORK IN THIS TOWN, UH, AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS.

AND I'VE ALREADY BEEN ABLE TO PUT THAT TO USE, UM, DURING MY TIME HERE.

SO, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S, UH, FAITH IN ME AND, UH, REALLY LIKE BEING HERE.

PRACTICES ARE AND HOW THEY SET THEIR AGENDAS.

AND I, I JUST WANNA WRAP AROUND.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY, UM, IMPRESSED ME AND GOT MY ATTENTION IN OUR CONVERSATION WAS SHE, UH, HAD A SUGGESTION BY A CONVERSATION SHE HAD THAT WE SHOULD FIND OUT WHAT OTHER TOURISM COMMISSIONS ARE DOING IN OTHER CITIES.

AND I SAID, WOW, WE SHOULD, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND I SAID, I HOPE THAT IF THIS PROCEEDS THE WAY THAT I HOPE IT DOES, THAT YOU WILL LEAD THAT INITIATIVE.

BECAUSE I THINK AFTER HAVING BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION AS LONG AS I HAVE, THAT IS A, A NOVEL IDEA FOR US TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A EXCHANGE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN SAN ANTONIO.

MAYBE HOUSTON DALLAS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL THE BIG HITTERS, BUT THERE, THE BIGGER THE CITY, THE BIGGER THE CONVENTION BUSINESS IS.

PROBABLY MORE LIKELY THERE'S GOING TO BE COHESION AND THEY'VE GOT GAME AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THINGS AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STUDYING HOW THEY PROCEED AND WHAT THEIR

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SO THIS, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DIVE IN INTO THAT.

ENOUGH OF THAT.

WE HAVE ONE MORE ELECTION.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE A CHOICE OF, OF A CHAIR FOR THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW.

I'M CURRENTLY SITTING HERE AS A HOLDING THE SPOT.

UH, UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE I SEE COMMISSIONER CHANIN HAS A COMMENT.

I NOMINATED ED BAILEY TO BE OUR TRACK.

UM, I AM OPEN TO CONTINUING TO THREAD THE NEEDLE HERE AND MAINTAIN WHAT PARTS OF DANIEL'S, UH, WORK THAT WE CREATED TOGETHER AND KEEP IT MOVING.

BUT I WILL SAY I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN EVERYBODY ELSE'S OPINION HERE.

SO I WILL NOT BE, IF I AM VOTED, I WILL NOT BE MANAGING IT EXACTLY AS DANIEL DID.

I HOPE TO HAVE MORE INCLU, MORE TIME FOR INCLUSIVITY.

SO, UM, DO I MAKE A MOTION FOR MYSELF? DO I ASK FOR A SECOND? DOES SOMEONE NEED TO SECOND? WE NEED A SECOND ON I SECOND DENOMINATION THAT DOESN'T, YEAH.

COMMISSIONER MATHIS HAS SECOND IN THE MOTION, WHICH MEANS WE'RE UP FOR A VOTE.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF, UM, ME MAINTAINING THE CHAIR ROLE, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL, PLEASE AFFIRM BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS WELL.

THANKS FOR MAKING IT EASY, EVERYBODY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

ALRIGHT, DANIEL, THAT'S DANIEL.

WAVE .

AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THAT NOW? YES, THERE, GO.

THAT WAS FOR YOU, MAN.

IF YOU'RE WATCHING, I HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING .

LOOK HOW WE'RE BLASTING THROUGH THIS MEETING.

FIX SHOES.

, WE BELIEVE IN YOU, BUT YOU WERE ALL THOSE OF YOU THAT WORKED WITH HIM.

YOU KNOW, I, I, ONE THING THAT I SAID ALSO, CHRISTINA MA MASTERS SAID IN OUR CONVERSATION, SHE SAYS, I THINK I'M GONNA MISS HIM.

I, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON HERE VERY LONG, BUT I, I LIKE TO STYLE AND I GOT TO KNOW HIM AND I THINK I'LL MISS HIM.

AND I SAID, GREAT.

YOU BE HIM .

I, I SAID, I SAID, IF YOU, I MEAN, SHE SEES WHAT SHE SAW AND I THINK THAT THAT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO RESPECTED WHAT DANIEL BROUGHT TO THIS AND I CERTAINLY DID.

UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN ALL TAKE A LESSON FROM THAT AND PARTICIPATE AT THE, THE LEVEL HE DID.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

SO, ALRIGHT,

[5. Discussion and possible action to create the road map for 2026 Tourism Commission Meetings.]

IT'S, UH, 2 46 AND, UH, BASICALLY OUR NEXT ACTION ITEM OR DISCUSSION ITEM, EXCUSE ME, FOR SAYING IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

AND IT IS, UH, THE TALK ABOUT THE, THE POSSIBLE ROADMAP AND TO CREATE THE ROADMAP.

AND I HOPE TO HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION.

I HOPE SOME OF YOU HAVE HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE TOPICS I'D LIKE, I MEAN, AS, UH, MS. BURLESON BROUGHT UP, WE HAVE THIS COMMUNICATE FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER WEBB, IT'S IN YOUR PACKET.

HE'S MADE A SUGGESTION MAYBE WE CAN START THE ROAD BACK CONVERSATION SINCE HE TOOK THE TIME TO, TO PUT HIS DOWN IN WRITING IN THIS WAY TO AT LEAST, UH, PERUSE, UM, HIS, HIS ISSUE AND HIS SUGGESTION, WHICH I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO READ.

IF YOU HAVEN'T, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU JUST A FEW SECONDS HERE TO CATCH UP TO THAT AND HAVE A LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT IT.

SO PLEASE DO.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE REALLY GO, GO MUCH DEEPER INTO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AROUND THE, THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT.

I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT ALL SPEED READERS, BUT I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT SOME OF YOU READ IT.

UM, SOME OF YOU MIGHT STILL BE IN IT, BUT JUST TO GET TO THE, TO THE THRUST OF, OF HIS POINT HERE IS HE, HE'S, UH, SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD DIG INTO WHAT THE, THE VISION PLAN IS FOR WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT AS THE CONVENTION CENTER REACHES COMPLETION.

WHAT OTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE DISTRICT, WHAT OTHER, UM, ASSETS AND, AND, AND COULD BE, UM, EITHER ON THE TABLE, WHAT THE TIMELINES AND WHO THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE THAT ARE GONNA BE HAVE IMPACT? IT IS A VERY DYNAMIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, COMMERCIAL INTERESTS HAPPENING ALL OVER THAT RARE AREA.

I CAN SAY PERSONALLY THAT I DRIVE THROUGH IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.

THAT INTERSECTION TAKE, I MEAN LITERALLY EVERY DAY.

AND SO I'VE WATCHED IT, UM, BLOOM INTO WHAT IS BECOMING, UH, QUITE A BIT.

AND I, I WILL ALSO SAY THAT, UH, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY FOR THE PUBLIC WHO WILL WATCH THIS, UM, THE SUGGESTION FROM COMMISSIONER WEBB IS THAT,

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AND TO THE DEGREE THAT THE TOURISM COMMISSION, UM, CAN PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT AND COUNSEL TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE VISITOR FRIENDLY, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS THE QUALIFIED SAFETY THAT IT'S BEING DONE TO WITH THE CITY'S DESIGN IN MIND AND, AND BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW AND ALL, ALL OF THAT.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY AN IMPORTANT PART OF A SUCCESSFUL, UM, RECREATION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT.

HE MAKES A NOTICE, A, A NOTION IN HERE THAT NASHVILLE AND HIS ESTIMATION HAS DONE A, A PRETTY CREDIBLE JOB OF DESIGNING ATTRACTIONS AND CREATING OTHER ANCILLARY BUSINESS INPUTS THAT ALL TIE AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND SO I THINK THAT I RECOMMEND HEARTEDLY THAT WE FIGURE OUT TO HIS, TO, TO HIS ENCOURAGEMENT HERE, UM, WHICH ORGANIZATIONS WE SHOULD BE INVITING TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT THAT WHAT, WHAT WE COULD SEE HAPPENING.

AND I DO KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD SOME CONVERSATION EARLY ON IN SOME OF THE MASTER PLANS FOR SOME OF THE EARLY RENDERING AND DESIGNS FOR THE AREA.

COMMISSIONER CHAN, I SEE YOU ARE WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO THIS? NO, I, YOU'RE ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO TALK TO.

I, I'D RECOMMEND SOMEBODY FROM STREAM REALTY.

HE'S UNDERTAKING, DOING MAJOR REDEVELOPMENT ON SIXTH STREET STEAM REALTY.

THERE, 'CAUSE AT SIXTH STREET IS THE MOST, THE, THE MOST AMOUNT OF REAL ESTATE IN THE WHOLE REGION RIGHT THERE.

THAT WHOLE SIXTH STREET AREA IS UNDER, YOU KNOW, PLANNING FOR COMPLETE REDEVELOPMENT.

SO I I AGREE WITH YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANNON, THAT THAT STREAM IS PROBABLY A, AN AN ABSOLUTE GOOD CALL.

I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHERS.

UH, COMMISSIONER PENOC, UM, I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE, UM, HAVE THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE FOLKS COME AND SPEAK TO US.

I KNOW THEY'RE, UM, ON TOP OF THIS, UM, ISSUE WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER BEING DOWN AND ARE COMING UP WITH, UH, THINGS, IDEAS AND THINGS TO DO.

AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME REVAMPING OF AREAS GOING ON IN THEIR WORLD, UM, TO KIND OF HELP THE SITUATION WHILE THE CONVENTION CENTER IS DOWN.

SO I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THEM COME AND SPEAK ON THIS.

I, I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL.

I, I ACTUALLY, NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE CITY EMAILS THIS WEEK, I THINK THEY POSTED A POSITION FOR SOME DOWNTOWN STRATA STRATEGIST FOR DOWNTOWN PLANNING.

DID ANYBODY ELSE SEE THAT IN THE EMAIL? IT WAS, IT CAME FROM THE, IT, IT WASN'T, IT WAS CAME FROM THE WHATEVER THE EMPLOYMENT.

WE, WE GET THOSE NOTICES WHENEVER THEY'RE POSTING FOR A POSITION.

SO THERE WAS A POSITION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO POST FOR, UH, REPORTS TO, UH, ONE OF THE DIVISION MANAGERS, ONE OF THE DOWNTOWN MANAGERS.

IT'S ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING AND DOWNTOWN AND COHESIVE PLANNING.

SO I GUESS IT KIND OF ANSWERS PROBABLY TOUCHES ON WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WEBB WAS SAYING, LIKE IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY POSTING FOR A POSITION FOR SOMEONE WHO'D BE INVOLVED IN MORE STRATEGIC PLANNING OF THE DOWNTOWN COURT OR YEAH.

SO I THINK, UH, READING THIS AND I KIND OF HAVE SOME OF THESE SIMILAR THOUGHTS.

CHAIRMAN BAILEY SHARED AS WELL.

ALSO, I WANT TO, SO IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S TWO POINTS, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A, A, A MASTER PLAN OR MAJOR PLAN AROUND THE AREA AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, A FUTURE VISION, IF YOU WILL.

SECONDLY, WHAT I'M PICKING UP FROM THIS, AND, AND I THINK WE ALL NOTICE IT A LOT, UH, THE CITY IS DIRTY.

CONSTRUCTION SITES ARE, ARE, ARE DIRTY.

AND NOT JUST COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO I THINK THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS BODY.

TO MAYBE TAKE A LOOK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, UM, THERE'S WAYS FOR, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, FEES AND EXPENSES AND FINES, UM, ON, ON BUILDERS AND ON THE INDUSTRY SIDE.

BUT THAT, WHAT HE'S HINTING AT, I THINK IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

HE TALKS ABOUT NASHVILLE BEING CLEAN, SO MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, LIKE, LET'S MAKE AUSTIN CLEAN AND MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK INTO SOME, SOME WORK SERVICES WHEREVER THAT'S PEOPLE HELPING WITH, WITH TRASH AND RECYCLING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

HAVING PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT, BUT ALL THAT HOST OF EVERYTHING.

AND THEN TYING IT BACK TO OUR ROADMAP.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THIS BODY IS, RIGHT, WE WANT TO FILL OUT FOR EACH MONTH.

SO PERHAPS WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT LIKE, FORMALIZING AND HAVING THE DOWNTOWN CONVENTION CENTER, AND THEN SECONDLY MAYBE A MONTH TOPIC AROUND, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

SOMETHING LIKE OF THAT NATURE.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD OUR ROADMAP FROM THEIR, UH, THOUGHTS.

UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, COMMISSIONER PENOC YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? YES.

I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD, I THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD ADD THE HOMELESS

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SITUATION AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE CLEANLINESS AND JUST THE APPEAL OF GOING TO SIXTH STREET ISN'T THERE ANYMORE.

UM, AS HE NOTED IN HIS EMAIL, IT SEEMS THAT EVEN DURING THE DAY, IT'S NOT A VERY SAFE PLACE TO BE RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE ALSO, UM, IS THINKING ABOUT THAT AND THEY DO A LOT OF CLEANUP AS WELL.

THEIR STAFF GOES OUT AND CLEANS UP THE CITY.

SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING HERE.

YES.

UH, I THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.

AND I WANTED TO ASK, I WAS GONNA NOTE THE DAA HAS THE, THAT THE RED SHIRT PEOPLE, I KNOW THEY'RE REALLY HEAVY UP AROUND REPUBLIC SQUARE PARK.

I I SEE THEM REALLY DOWN IN THE SECOND STREET.

MY QUESTION KIND OF IS WHAT'S THE RA, WHAT'S THE B WHAT ARE THE BOUNDARIES FOR THAT SERVICE FROM THE DAA? UH, THEY, IF ANYBODY KNOWS THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST, WE CAN DO IT NOW, BUT WELL, MAYBE THAT'S A TOPIC, RIGHT? OKAY.

WE'LL GET TO, THEY DO, THEY DO HAVE A .

UM, THEY CAME AND PRESENTED TO THE, UH, GREATER AUSTIN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND, UM, THEY DO HAVE A MAP.

IT STRETCHES, I THINK, ALL THE WAY UP TO CAMPUS.

AND I, I DON'T REMEMBER HOW FAR SOUTH IT GOES.

UM, BUT, BUT I THINK NEEDLESS TO SAY, IF THEY COME AND PRESENT TO US, THEY'RE GONNA SHOW US THE BOUNDARIES MM-HMM .

AND TELL US THEIR INITIATIVES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO I THINK MAYBE THAT CAN BE A JANUARY ITEM, STARTING THE NEW YEAR.

GREAT.

UM, UM, I DO WANT TO GET TO, ONCE WE GET SOME OF THESE, ALL THESE IDEAS OUT ON THE TABLE, I DEFINITELY WANNA FOCUS IN ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING FOR JANUARY.

AND THIS MIGHT BE VERY, WELL BE THE MOST APPROACHABLE.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

I WANNA HEAR THE OTHER IDEAS, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER PRUITT.

SO I WAS CURIOUS IF, UM, VIRTUAL PRESENTATIONS FROM GROUPS THAT ARE INVITED ARE LIKE ALLOWED MM-HMM .

UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IN REGARDS TO ALL OF THIS, AND ALSO COMMISSION MASTERS, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT LOOKING INTO WHAT OTHER TOURISM COMMISSIONS ARE DOING.

LIKE LET'S INVITE THE NASHVILLE TOURISM COMMISSION POTENTIALLY TO SPEAK, UM, TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE, ESPECIALLY AS FAR AS DOWNTOWN AREA AND BEING A CITY FOR MUSIC AND KIND OF LIKE, I THINK BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THEN ALSO JUST ASKING THEM WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HAVE THEM PRESENT FOR US TO HAVE MORE IDEAS AS WELL.

AND MAYBE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A PRESENTATION.

MAYBE IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT HELPS US BUILD OUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE DO NEXT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, I THINK ALSO AS FAR AS REALTY GOES, UM, PARKING, WHOEVER OWNS PARKING, LIKE LA PARKING, UM, SEEING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, WITH THEIR SPACES AND ALSO WITH THE DOWNTOWN BEAUTIFICATION, UM, AS CORPORATE, YOU KNOW, STAKEHOLDERS, WHAT THEY CAN DO OR WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO COMBAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE'VE HEARD FROM LIKE THE, UM, RED RIVER DISTRICT AS FAR AS LIKE PARKING AND BECOMING EXPONENTIALLY EXPENSIVE FOR THE FOLKS THAT WORK DOWN THERE.

UM, AND SO LIKE AS THEIR SALARIES OR INCOMES MAY BE DECREASING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH WALK-IN BECAUSE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY, WE COULD WORK ON, UM, TO KIND OF HELP THOSE, THE SERVERS AND INDUSTRY FOLKS THAT WORK DOWN IN THAT AREA? I, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONER PRUITT.

I, I THINK AS YOU WERE SAYING THAT I WAS, MY BRAIN WAS SCOPING OUT GOING, IT'S, IT'S THE WHOLE, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.

IT, IT TIES BACK TO COMMISSIONER WEBBS.

THIS GOES ALONG WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT THERE IS A, THERE IS A JUGGERNAUT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THAT WHOLE AREA.

AND THROW I 35 ON TOP OF IT, THE I 35 EXPANSION ON TOP OF IT.

AND IT IS REALLY QUITE DYNAMIC DOWN THERE.

AND IT, I SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE IT'S NEVER THE SAME PLACE TWICE WHEN I COME THROUGH, I FEEL LIKE IT'S, OH, THEY GOT ANOTHER LANE DOWN OR SOMETHING NEW HAPPENING.

AND I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING EXACTLY TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PAYING ATTENTION TO THE BUSINESSES THAT FEED AND WHERE OUR TOURISTS ARE MOST COMFORTABLE, FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE GOING.

IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING TO YOUR POINT TO SEE WHAT, HOW SOUTH BY HITS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE FIRST ONES GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

AND BY MARCH WE'RE GONNA SEE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT, HOW RED RIVER IS CONTENDING FOR ITS ROLE.

I I, IT'S GONNA BE AN INTERESTING YEAR WITH THAT.

AND THAT RAISES A THOUGHT ABOUT SOUTH BY IN GENERAL, , SINCE IT'S SUCH A BIG EVENT, WE WE MIGHT WANT TO YEAH.

TO HEAR FROM THEM DIRECTLY.

THE TOURISM AND FOR SOUTH BY STUFF BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS GREAT SKYLINE AND THEY'RE ON THE RIVER.

VERY CURIOUS WHAT SOUTH BY PROBABLY AFTER AND SEE WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED AND HOW THEY WORKED AROUND SOME OF THOSE SPACES.

UM, AND THEN I ALSO FEEL LIKE THE LONG CENTER MIGHT BECOME A BIGGER PLAYER, UM, FOR

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UM, SO I'M CURIOUS IF ANY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, UM, BUSINESS WILL BE GOING THAT DIRECTION AS FAR AS MEETING MEETING SPACES AND MEETING LOCATIONS.

THANKS FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

I, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF I FEEL LIKE VISIT AUSTIN TOUCHED ON THEIR STRATEGY WHEN THEY WERE HERE, BUT BY NO MEANS DID IT, DID THEY GET GRANULAR TO SAY THIS? WE COULD, WE CAN ASK THE LONG CENTER OR WE CAN ASK THE DIRECTOR CORY BOOKER TO COME IN AND, AND, AND HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THE CENTER HAS FARED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEW GAME HAPPENING.

YEAH, SURE.

SO DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA ADD? OH, YEAH.

I, I, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER CHAP PLEASE.

SO THANK YOU CHAIRMAN BAILEY.

UM, I THINK WE ALSO SHOULD INCLUDE HOT TAX DISCOVERY, UM, UH, IN TERMS OF RIGHT, BREAKING THAT DOWN, WHERE DOES THE HOT GO? HAVING A, A DEEPER DIVE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

UM, A COUPLE MORE BACK TO CONVENTION CENTER THAT, THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO HAVE A COUPLE MORE TIE-INS WITH THIS AUSTIN RATHER THAN THE ONCE A YEAR.

GO THROUGH THE DECK, SHOW US THE MM-HMM .

THE DATA, BUT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE OPERATIONS, PARTICULARLY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AS IT IS A DISPARATE MEASURE.

AND IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE THE CITY OF AUSTIN STRUGGLES TO MANAGE THINGS IN GENERAL, UH, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS BODY IS KIND OF TRYING TO PUT ITS ARMS AROUND THAT PERIPHERY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE VISITORS SEE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S OUTSTANDING FOR US.

BUT JUST FOLLOWING UP SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO PUT ON HERE.

AND THEN JUST TO GROUP THINGS TOGETHER.

SO I'M HEARING LIKE BEAUTIFY AUSTIN, UM, OTHER TOURISM COMMISSIONS, RIGHT.

INDUSTRY FEEDBACK LOOP WHERE IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE LIKE, WHAT CAN WE LEARN, BUT JUST MORE OF A, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE INDUSTRY SORT OF THING.

AND SO WE CAN KEEP IT AT THAT AUSTIN INDUSTRY IN SERVICE.

AND OBVIOUSLY SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, UM, KIND OF CONVENTION CENTER GROUPED TOGETHER AS A WHOLE.

ADDITIONALLY, WE WOULD HAVE THE HOT TAX.

UM, I STILL LIKE TO KEEP PUSHING FOR, UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS IN TERMS OF RESTAURANTS.

I'M HESITANT RIGHT NOW DUE TO THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS TO SAY LIKE, HEY, HERE'S ANOTHER, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE COST TO PUT ONTO A, A STRUGGLING, UH, BUSINESS MARGIN LINE.

UM, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING FOR, FOR FUTURE PLAY, UH, AS WELL.

UM, , COMMISSIONER MATHIS.

WHAT HAVE, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE RECURRING TOPICS MM-HMM .

I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST MAYBE COME.

UM, TYPICALLY IT SEEMED, AT LEAST FOR MY HOTEL CONTRACTS TYPICALLY GET SIGNED.

WELL, THEY DID SOME IN THE PAST BEFORE THIS BIG CHANGE.

THEY WOULD DO MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENTS AND THEY PROBABLY STILL DO, WELL ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE NOW EVEN WITH THE BIG ANCHOR HOTELS.

UM, AND THEY RATES AND, AND FINE TUNING THOSE AGREEMENTS AND SIGNING THEM USUALLY COMES LIKE, UM, SPRING, SUMMER, AND THEY LIKE TO GO LIVE WITH EVERYBODY COMMITTED AND CONTRACTED IN END OF SUMMER.

THIS YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT LATER BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES, UM, THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER IS WHEN THEY WENT LIVE YEARS BEFORE WHEN THEY, LIKE THE LAST DECADE, THEY WOULD TAKE A FEW WEEKS OFF AFTER SOUTH BY, THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE OFFICE BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING CRAZY HOURS TO MAKE THIS EVENT GO LEADING UP UNTIL THE EVENT.

SO IF WE COULD HAVE THEM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR FROM THEM LIKE EARLY SPRING, LIKE HOW DID IT GO? WHAT WENT WELL AND WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO YOU TO COMMIT TO COME BACK? BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY HAVE NOT COMMITTED TO ANOTHER YEAR YET.

BECAUSE IN YEARS PAST, I COULD GET A CALENDAR THAT HAD THE DATES OF SOUTH BY ALL THE WAY, LIKE, I MEAN, MULTIPLE YEARS OUT.

AND I MENTIONED IT TO SOMEBODY BECAUSE I HAD A CLIENT LOOKING AT SPACE FOR NEXT YEAR, AND I SAID, I BELIEVE THESE ARE THE DATES THAT WERE ON THE CALENDAR.

AND THEY RESPONDED BACK, WE DON'T HAVE DATES ANY BEYOND THIS YEAR.

WE NEED TO SEE HOW THIS GOES.

SO OF COURSE WE WANT IT TO GO WELL.

AND IF IT IS, IF THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO BETTER AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THE EVENT, WE DEFINITELY WOULD WANNA KNOW, KNOW, I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT EVENT TO AUSTIN.

I AGREE.

AND YOU KNOW, I I, AS I WAS LOOKING BACK THROUGH THE, UH, AGENDAS FROM, I, I LITERALLY WENT BACK THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE YEARS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT ARE OUR, WHAT HAVE BEEN THE TOPICS,

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WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE HEARD FROM THE THIS THAT WE ADDRESSED THIS TOPIC IN OUR, IN, IN OUR MIX.

AND SO I MADE SOME NOTES ON THAT.

AND ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I THINK DANIEL MADE IN THE LAST MEETING, AND I CAPTURED THAT AS I, YES, FESTIVALS ARE SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE DRAW OF TOURISM ACTIVITY IN THIS TOWN THAT I DON'T SEE HOW WE'LL EVER HAVE A YEAR WHERE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT SOME PORTION OF WHAT WE'LL CALL THE FESTIVAL ECONOMY IN AUSTIN.

THE, THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ACL AND, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF, WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT FOOD FESTIVALS.

I THINK HIS SUGGESTION WAS WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE TEXAS BOOK FESTIVAL MM-HMM .

WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, TRIBUNE FEST AND I THINK WITH SOUTH BY COMPLETELY REMODELING ITSELF.

AND IT REALLY IS.

I THINK SO.

EVEN, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HEARD FROM SOUTH BY BEFORE, I THINK HEARING FROM A COUPLE NEW OTHER PLAYERS ABOUT HOW THEY BRING PEOPLE TO TOWN AND THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THEY BRING TO TOWN AND MM-HMM .

WHERE THEY FIT INTO THE CALENDAR.

'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY MOVE AWAY FROM SOME OF THOSE OTHER FESTIVALS.

I THINK SOUTH BY FOR SURE IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO STUDY.

IT'S IT, I WAS TELLING THE STORY TO SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN DELL WORLD LEFT TOWN, THERE WAS OH, IT WAS, IT WAS, YEP.

UH, COMMISSIONER MASTERS, I WAS GIVING HER AN UPDATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE HAD, DELL BROUGHT THE BIGGEST CONVENTION TO TOWN AND IT WAS, IT WAS SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST DELL WORLD.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A KELLER WILLIAMS CONFERENCE THAT WAS PRETTY BIG WHERE THEY BROUGHT IN, UH, REAL ESTATE EXECUTIVES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

AND OUR BUSINESS HAS BEEN CHALLENGED.

AND BACK IN THE, IN THE ERA WHEN DELL LEFT, IT WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTEL ROOMS. IT'S BEEN ALMOST 10 YEARS WHEN IT WAS SPACE, BECAUSE WHEN EMC TOOK YEAH, I THINK EMC BOUGHT DELL OR MERGED WITH DELL OR VICE VERSA.

IT WAS A, THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR THEM.

CORRECT.

SO AT SOME POINT WE HOPE TO GET, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS LIKE THAT BACK.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

I THINK THAT, THAT TOM NEWAN FROM VISIT AUSTIN SAID THAT WAS A PROBLEM WE HAD, BUT WHERE OUR INVENTORY ON SPACES LEAPED SINCE THAT ERA, AND NOW IT'S THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT CORRECT.

IS, YOU KNOW, AND NEEDS TO CATCH UP TO THE HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS AND ALLOCATIONS.

SO I, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S HAVING PAYING ATTENTION SOUTH BY IS GONNA BE THE NEXT CANARY IN THE COAL MINE.

I MEAN, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO SOUTH BY THAT, THEY CHANGE THIS.

WELL, SOUTH BAY'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CONVENTION.

MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.

HERE'S WHY.

YES.

IT'S COMPRESSION BRINGS RATES THAT ARE TWICE AS HIGH.

AND THERE'S NO OTHER CONVENTION THAT'S EVER BEEN IN THIS CITY THAT IS THIS LONG.

IT'S A VERY LONG CONVENTION BECAUSE IT STARTS WITH EDU AND THEN HISTORICALLY IT WAS INTERACTIVE, I THINK IT'S CALLED INNOVATION.

THERE'S FILM, THERE'S MUSIC, THERE'S WAVES OF PEOPLE COMING IN.

SO IT'S A VERY LONG CONVENTION.

UM, AND IT IS IMPORTANT.

AND ANOTHER REASON WHY IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TALK WITH THEM IS THAT I'M SURE YOU'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S, THE LAST TIME I HAD, I SAW A PRESENTATION FROM SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE SPEAKING AREN'T THERE ANYMORE.

THEY HAVE A WHOLE NEW SET OF PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, MAY MAYBE A DIFFERENT SET OF EYES, A DIFFERENT SET OF PRIORITIES THAN THE ONES THAT WERE SPEAKING TO US THE COMMUNITY BEFORE.

COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

THOSE ARE ALL PO REALLY, UH, ACUTE OBSERVATIONS.

AND I APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER MATHIS YOUR CONTRIBUTION.

'CAUSE YOU REALLY GIVE US THAT, THAT THAT A STRAIGHT VIEW OF HOW IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE HOSPITALITY ECONOMY.

I MEAN, NOT JUST WHAT IT MEANS TO OUR CREATIVE SECTORS AND TO OUR FILM INDUSTRIES, WHAT HAPPENS AT THE CONFERENCE, BUT LITERALLY WHAT IT MEANS.

AND IT'S AN AUSTIN BRANDED EVENT, REALLY.

YOU KNOW? THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, AND THEN I WOULD HAVE JUST ONE OTHER THING.

SURE.

UM, AS FAR AS MAYBE TOPICS, UM, THE RESTAURANT, THE CULINARY, THE, THE FOOD AND WINE THAT TOURISM IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMPANY.

I'D LOVE TO LIKE MAYBE GET ONE OF THE RESTAURANT GROUPS, UM, TO COME IN AND SPEAK WITH US.

UM, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN IS NOW ON THE MAP.

UM, WE HAVE MICHELIN STAR RESTAURANTS IN THIS CITY NOW.

SO LOVE TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON, UM, HOW, UH, THE CONVENTION BUSINESS AFFECTS THEM.

WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEIR CHALLENGES, UM, AND WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER TO SUPPORT THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE, UM, THOSE ARE VERY, JUST LIKE THE HOTEL INDUSTRY, THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE IN AUSTIN IS A VERY IMPORTANT EMPLOYER.

AND IF PEOPLE AREN'T AT THOSE TABLES OR AND SLEEPING IN THOSE BEDS, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF JOBS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE DEPENDING UPON THAT.

GOT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST, WHICH WILL DEMONSTRATE CANON DISPARATE CONVENTION.

COMMISSIONER MATHIS, UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPEL, YOU WANNA ADD ON WRAP, WRAP ONTO THAT? YEAH, NO, I THINK IT'S, IT'S EXCELLENT.

AND SO I THINK RIGHT AS I HEAR THAT AND KIND OF VIEW IT AS FROM THIS BODY WE'VE

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WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UH, NOT BEING UNDER, UH, ONE ROOF.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO REPORT BACK.

BUT OUR, OUR CONVENTIONS AND OUR FESTIVALS ARE RIGHT.

IT'S B2B AND THEN CONSUMER FOCUSED.

SO LIKE, WHERE DOES, LIKE I WAS AT THE WIZARD RODEO THIS LAST WEEKEND.

BILL CALLAHAN WAS PLAYING RIGHT? AND IT FELT LIKE I WAS AT RADIO OR I WAS AT A HOUSE PARTY.

HOW, HOW DOES THAT, GOOD QUESTION.

IT WAS OUT TO, UH, EAST, EAST, EAST AUSTIN, TOWARDS DAKOTA.

UM, BUT WHERE DO THOSE FESTIVALS FALL? RIGHT? IN THE ECOSYSTEM AND RIGHT SOUTH BY IS CLEARLY, CLEARLY IMPORTANT, BUT A LOT OF THESE OTHER FESTIVALS ARE IMPORTANT.

AND SO TO HAVE DISTINCTION BETWEEN RIGHT.

COMMERCIAL AND CONSUMER OR, OR TOURISM.

THAT DISTINCTION THERE.

UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT WE MISS.

'CAUSE WE'RE SO FOCUSED ON KIND OF THE BIG THINGS THAT ARE JUST OPERATING WITHOUT US.

WHEN I THINK OF SIXTH STREET NOW, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT IS EVERYTHING THAT DANIEL WAS MENTIONING IN, IN THAT NOTE TO US.

AND UNLESS SOME OF THAT IS ADDRESSED, I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, STEAM IS REDEVELOPING.

WE'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME AREAS, LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR MARQUEE RESTAURANT GROUPS LIKE MCGUIRE MORMON WOULD BE LIKE, KIND OF PROBABLY WARY OF COMING IN AND PUTTING, YOU KNOW, A, A FANTASTIC RESTAURANT ON CERTAIN PARTS OF SIXTH.

YOU KNOW, THEY'VE KIND OF MADE IT CLEAR THEY'RE DEVELOPING MORE DOWN LIKE LAMAR AND SIXTH THAT IN THE AREA OVER THERE.

UM, SO, AND WE NEED WALKABLE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE FABULOUS LIKE THAT CLOSER TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MANY OVER ON THAT END OF TOWN.

IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

I, I'VE, UH, IT'S, I'VE BEEN REMINDED THAT WE NEED TO, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN A CONVERSATIONAL KIND OF BRAINSTORMING SESSION HERE, THAT I'M, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDERS THAT WERE SET OUT, WE NEED TO, I NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU TO, SO YOU SPEAK AND I NEED, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU WHEN YOU DO MAKE AN, NO, NOT YOU, IT'S ALL OF IT.

I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU SPECIFICALLY.

COMMISSIONER MATHIS.

I'M BEING REMINDED THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF JUST FREE STYLING RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M, I'M GUILTY 'CAUSE I'M NOT REIGNING IT IN BECAUSE THESE ARE MY, THESE ARE MY BLIND SPOTS, YOU KNOW, SLOW.

I LIKE TO JUST GET EVERYBODY TALKING.

BUT YES, SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MATHIS.

COMMISSIONER CHAN, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.

YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS.

PLEASE DO.

COMM COMMISSIONER, MASTERS.

SO I THINK, UM, IN RELATION TO WHAT BISHOP RECOMMENDED ON OCCUPANCY TAX, UM, IS THE RULES FOR WHAT CAN AND CANNOT OR OCCUPANCY BE OCCUPANCY TAX BE USED FOR.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS ON OUR COMMISSION AND, UM, DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE HELPFUL TO EDUCATE THEM ON WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T USE OCCUPANCY TAX FOR.

NO QUESTION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UH, SHANNON, I, I ACTUALLY MADE A NOTE MYSELF THAT, AND I THINK WRAPPING INTO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I I THINK THERE'S A, A PIECE OF WHAT WE ARE WHAT COMMISSIONER MATHIS MASTERS WAS SUGGESTING, THAT THERE COULD BE SOME VARIANCES IN HOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS.

AND IF THEY ARE, WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST KNOW HOW THEY CAME TO THEIR CONCLUSIONS.

THAT THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO SAY IS I WAS THINKING ABOUT, UH, THE TEXAS HOTEL LODGING ASSOCIATION AND THE DIRECTOR, SCOTT JOSS LOVE, WHO REALLY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE, THE, THE BEST PERSON TO EXPLAIN THE, THE STATE STATUTES IN THEIR, THEIR BREADTH AND IN THEIR LIMITATIONS.

AND I KIND OF AM INTERESTED IN WHAT'S ON THEIR LONG-TERM PURVIEW FOR THE LEDGE WHEN IT'S IN SESSION NEXT AND FACING WHAT'S TAKE FACING THE BROADER HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY.

AND MY GUESS IS THAT THIS TOPIC PROBABLY IS ANNUAL OR ANNUALLY UP FOR DISCUSSION.

THERE'S PROBABLY CITIES THAT ARE LOOKING FOR LOOPHOLES OR LOOKING FOR NEW, MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.

SO I THINK YOUR, YOUR POINT AND YOUR SUGGESTION ALONG WITH BISHOPS THAT WE SHOULD GET INTO THE HOT TAX THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SCOPE OUT AND GET THE BROADER WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE STATE WITH IT, AND THEN BRING IT BACK HOME.

SO I, I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE THAT THIS SHOULD BE A TOPIC THAT WE GET INTO.

I SAW YOUR HAND UP PLEASE.

HAS STARTED TO REACH OUT TO ASK, UH, FOR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OF THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS.

I, SAME THING.

I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT COMMISSIONER CHAPEL AND SHANNON HAS SAID THAT I THINK IF WE ARE ABLE TO COORDINATE THIS FOR JANUARY, I THINK THAT WOULD SET A GREAT TONE FOR THE REST OF THE TIME.

AND IN ADDITION TO YOUR COMMENTS, CHAIRMAN, I THINK IT'S ALSO TIMELY BECAUSE THE CITY

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UM, WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THOSE.

SO I THINK THE SOONER THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, ABOUT HOT AND START UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO BE ASKING AND WHERE THE GAPS ARE.

I KNOW TYPICALLY THE STATE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT LIKE TO TOUCH THAT PART OF, UH, UM, OUR LAWS WITH A 10 FOOT POLE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY TOUGH TO TAKE ON.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT WORTH HELPING TO TRY TO DIRECT THE CITY TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING.

UM, UH, AND SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT ON THAT.

UH, .

I KNOW I LIKE THE MORE I TALK, MAYBE IT'LL ALL KIND OF COME BACK TO ME .

UM, BUT OH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST I THINK THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE WOULD BE A GREAT ENTITY TO INVITE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

I'VE ACTUALLY, UM, THEY HAVE A REALLY GREAT, UH, PRIMER ONLINE ALREADY ABOUT ALLOWABLE USE FOR HOT TAX THAT I THINK EXPLAINS IT REALLY WELL.

AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SUGGESTED SPEAKER TO COME TALK TO US INSTEAD OF MAYBE, ALTHOUGH SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN I'M SURE COULD ALSO BE USEFUL.

THE MUNICIPAL LEAGUE IS AWARE OF WHAT OTHER ENTITIES HAVE DONE TO, UM, POTENTIALLY ADDRESS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR CREATIVE USE OF HOT TAX.

EXCELLENT.

THANK, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MASTERS.

I, I, YOU KNOW, I ALSO WANNA DRAW A DISTINCTION THAT, THAT BOTH, UH, COMMISSIONER MASTERS AND MYSELF, UM, SAW THE ARTICLE THAT WAS, UH, PUBLISHED IN, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT PUBLICATION? FREE, FREE FREE PRESS.

AUSTIN FREE PRESS.

AND IT, IT WENT A, A LEVEL DEEPER ON THE ANTONE'S, UH, CLUB 50 YEAR, UH, EXTENSION OF ITS LEASE AND, AND SOME AVAILABLE FUNDING THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING FROM RALLY THAT RALLY AUSTIN, THAT APPARENTLY THERE IS HOT TAX.

I MEAN, FROM READING THAT ARTICLE, THERE IS HOT TAX THAT HAS BEEN A PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS COMES THROUGH HOT TAX.

AND I'D LOVE TO, I, AND I, I ACTUALLY SENT, UH, A MESSAGE TO THE OWNER WILL BRIDGES YESTERDAY, UH, GIVING HIM A NOTE OF CONGRATULATIONS.

HE SPOKE TO US RECENTLY.

I SAID, THAT'S A BIG OUTCOME.

I SAID, WE'RE, ALL OF US ARE CURIOUS TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE BEHIND THE SCENES ON THAT.

I'D LIKE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH YOU, OR I COULD GO DIRECTLY TO RALLY AUSTIN, BUT I DON'T WANNA BRING THEM NECESSARILY BACK HERE TO DO IT.

BUT I THINK IT, IT'S PART OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO BUILD OUR ROADMAP AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING ALL OF OUR MEETINGS APPROPRIATELY.

I WANNA, I'M PERSONALLY COMMITTED TO TRYING TO TAKE THAT ONE SUBJECT AND FIND OUT MORE.

'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S MORE OF THAT COMING.

AND IF THERE IS, I WANT US TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

UM, SO I'M JUST, UH, I MADE SURE THAT WE, THAT FELICIA SENT THAT LINK TO EVERYONE, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT YET, IT'LL PROBABLY GET YOUR WHEELS TURNING IF YOU GO READ IT.

I, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DO.

UM, WHAT ELSE, WHO ELSE HAS GOT, UH, SUGGESTIONS? ANYONE? YEAH, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER AHEAD.

I THINK, I THINK THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DEMEZ, I'M JUST GONNA GAVE, HE'S JUST VERY SLIGHT WITH IT.

HE, HE GAVE ME A FINGER, LARRY WAVE, BUT I THINK HE GOT YOU.

I'LL GET RIGHT BACK TO YOU.

I'M, I'M JUST GONNA LIST SOME THINGS THAT, UM, I MEAN, BASED ON SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS ALREADY, I KIND OF PULLED THESE FROM THERE.

BUT, UM, JUST GOING DOWN THE LINE, FAMOUS FOODS OR WINE, I THINK, UH, FRANKLIN'S BARBECUE, MAYBE SOME OTHER, LIKE REALLY WELL KNOWN THAT MAY BRING PEOPLE HERE.

UM, SOME OF THE AUSTIN ICONS THAT WHEN I THINK OF AUSTIN, UM, THE BATS ON THE BRIDGE, UH, ZUCKER, BARTON SPRINGS POOL, THE CAPITOL, UH, ESTHER FOLEY SIXTH STREET, AND THEN UT FOOTBALL.

I KNOW THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC, BUT I DO THINK THAT BRINGS A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.

I AND I, AND, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE READ ARTICLES THAT THERE WAS SOME SIGNIFICANT MONEY INVESTED FROM MARKETING DOLLARS FROM THE CITY TO BUILD TO GET MICHELIN HERE.

UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

SO BY SOUTHWEST IS A REALLY BIG, IT'S A HUGE DEAL.

AND, AND MAYBE IF WE WERE GONNA TALK TO THEM, IT MIGHT BE NICE TO CHAT WITH THEM TWICE, ONCE BEFORE TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAYS TO HELP.

AND THEN AFTER WHEN THEY RECAP AND WE CAN SEE HOW DID IT GO, WHAT CAN WE DO SO THAT, UM, WE CAN HELP THEM TO KEEP THIS ALIVE UNTIL THE CONVENTION IS BACK AND RUNNING IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

UH, CODA RODEO, ACL, AND THEN I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN ABOUT THE OCCUPANCY TAX AND HOT TAX.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

THOSE, THAT'S IT.

JUST GONNA LIST OFF SOMETHING I APPRE I I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW YOU'RE THE ONE OF OUR NEWEST MEMBERS TO THE BODY.

SO THE, THE, YOU DESERVE TO, TO GET FULLY EQUIPPED, UH, WITH SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE SEEN.

WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THESE, UM, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BEFORE US LIKE CODA, BUT JUST AS SHEER AS A MATTER OF FACT.

BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT THE FRANKLIN THINKS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

I I I, I'VE BEEN, WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER MATHIS TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HER INTEREST IN THE MICHELIN STARS, I HAD THAT ON MY LIST.

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AND IT WASN'T JUST IN AUSTIN, IT WAS THE, THE ENTIRE STATE.

SO I DO THINK IF, IF THE, IF MULTIPLE REGIONS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO COMMIT BUDGET DOLLARS TO GET MICHELIN HERE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ON HOW THEY UNDERSTOOD THE ROI FOR THAT INVESTMENT.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD THAT YET.

WE'VE HEARD ALL ABOUT WHO WON AND WHO WHICH CITY WON THE MOST.

THAT'S BEEN RARELY WIDELY CIRCULATED IN THE PRESS.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE GOT A REAL GOOD BEHIND THE SCENES.

AND I KNOW THAT VISIT AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE THEIR DECISION, BUT THEY, IT TOOK MORE THAN ONE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU OR CITY TO CONVINCE THE MICHELIN ORGANIZATION TO BRING TO COME TO TEXAS.

SO IT WAS A COMBINED EFFORT AND I'D LIKE, I THINK WE ALL DESERVE TO LEARN MORE FROM THAT.

I, I, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTION ON THAT.

UM, COMMISSIONER EZ, I, I THINK ANY, YOU'RE HEARING SEVERAL OF US HAVE SIMILAR FEELINGS ABOUT THAT, SO THAT'S GOOD TO SEE.

WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING A ROADMAP TOGETHER AND WE'RE FINDING CONSENSUS ON SOME OF THE HOT TOPICS.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A FULL YEAR YET, SO, UM, BUT I DO THINK WE'RE GONNA BREAK UP SOME OF THESE.

UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE BEFORE I THROW SOME OF THE OTHER ONES I'M HIDING ON MY LIST THAT I'M LISTENING MORE THAN TALKING.

SO ANYONE ELSE HAVE A, ANY COMMISSIONER? OH, I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET BACK TO YOU.

I APOLOGIZE TO YOU.

COMMISSIONER PENOC, PLEASE.

CHAIR.

UM, I HAD ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR SPEAKERS.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE HEARD, BUT THERE'S AN AMUSEMENT PARK THAT'S GOING TO OPEN AT, UM, THE FACILITY AT CIRCUIT OF THE AMERICAS, SOUTH AUSTIN.

AND, UM, THEY'RE SLATED TO OPEN, I THINK AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER SOMETIME, OR, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING OF SECOND QUARTER.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE FOR THEM TO COME SPEAK AND PRESENT TO US.

UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA, THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THEY'RE GONNA CREATE A LOT OF JOBS.

BUT ALSO WHENEVER YOU HAVE A NEW SHINY AMUSEMENT PARK, IT DOES BRING PEOPLE FROM NOT JUST THE STATE, BUT I WOULD GATHER, UH, SAY SOME FOLKS FROM OUTTA STATE TO COME VISIT THE AMUSEMENT PARK.

AND IF THEY DO THAT, THEN THEY'RE GONNA STAY IN A HOTEL.

UM, MY SECOND POINT, UM, IS ONCE WE'RE COMPLETE WITH THE SUGGESTIONS, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE A FULL YEAR, BUT AT LEAST IF WE HAVE A GOOD THREE, FOUR, MAYBE SIX MONTH, UM, TOPICS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD KIND OF PICK THE ONES THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT.

JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, KIND OF TIMELINE IT OUT TIME.

LINE IT OUT.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR WORK TOGETHER TO CONTACT THE, UH, RESPECTIVE FOLKS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD SPEAK.

BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD, UH, A BIT OF A CHALLENGE ON TIMING AND SCHEDULING OF SPEAKERS.

AND I THINK THE MORE ADVANCED NOTICE WE CAN GIVE THEM AND GET ON THEIR SCHEDULE, THE BETTER OFF WE'LL BE AND HAVE LESS CANCELLATIONS.

GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE.

UM, I WILL TELL YOU, JUST TO VALIDATE WHAT YOU JUST SAID BEFORE YOU ARRIVED, UH, COMMISSIONER MASTERS AND FELICIA AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT JANUARY'S CANCELED LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET SPEAKERS.

AND I FEEL LIKE COMING OUT OF THIS MEETING THAT WE GOTTA JUMP ON JANUARY BECAUSE THE CLOSER IT GETS TO THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY AND THE VACATIONS AND THE PEOPLE THAT TAKE OFF OFTEN FROM THAT HOLIDAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH NEW YEAR'S AND THE OTHER SIDE, YOU CAN'T, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET A REACTION FROM THE PEOPLE WE WANT.

SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

AND YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT TO THROW ON THE TABLE WHAT WE, WHAT WE WOULD ATTEMPT TO DO FOR JANUARY, FEBRUARY AS FAR AS TOPICS, AND THEN HAVE THE LATITUDE TO PIVOT AS WE NEED TO.

AND SO BY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE PORTAL ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO EVERYONE.

AND JUST SO YOU, YOU'RE AWARE, AND THAT ALSO ALIGNS WITH, UM, MS. BURLESON NEEDING TO TELL US WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING.

SO WE'RE UNLIKE MOST OF OUR MEETINGS, I I MEAN, NOT EVERYBODY SPENDS A LOT OF TIME IN THE LEAD UP AS FAR AS I KNOW, BUT WE MAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BE, UH, REQUEST THAT YOU ALL GET INTO YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNTS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS OR RIGHT AROUND CHRISTMAS JUST TO CATCH UP WITH WHATEVER'S GOING ON.

AND, AND WE'LL TRY TO KEEP YOU INFORMED.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR FEELING THE URGENCY BECAUSE I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

WHO'S NEXT? I THINK WE'VE GOT ALMOST EVERY OH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

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I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

COMMISSIONER PRUITT RAISED HER HAND AND THEN WE'LL GET TO YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INVITE, UM, THE NEW ACME OFFICE TO COME CHAT WITH US, OUR NEWLY FORMED OH, THAT WAS ON YOUR HIDDEN LIST, .

I DEFINITELY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR IT'S THE, UM, ARTS, AUSTIN ARTS CULTURE, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT IS A NEW DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, SO I IMAGINE THEY'LL BE USING SOME OF THE, UM, HOT FUNDING FOR, UM, THEIR RESOURCES.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW.

SO I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO, UM, HAVE THEM HERE AND IF, UM, THEY, THEY MIGHT BE A GOOD PERSON FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR ALREADY BEING A CITY OR IF, UM, OTHER FOLKS ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, WHEN IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE'RE ALL ON BOARD TO ASK SOUTH BY, TO KIND OF GIVE US A RECAP AT SOME POINT IN THE YEAR, UM, I THINK THAT A GREAT PARTNER, UM, CONVERSATION TO THAT WOULD ALSO BE WITH TEXAS BOOK FESTIVAL, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF HOW SPRAWLING THEY ARE AND HOW MANY SPACES THEY USE.

I'M ALSO CURIOUS, UM, HOW THAT PARTNERSHIP WORKS WITH THE CAPITAL.

I MEAN, I KNOW LAURA BUSH FOUNDED IT, SO THAT PROBABLY HELPS QUITE A BIT.

UM, BUT THEY DO A LOT, USE A LOT OF CHURCHES IN THE AREA.

AND AGAIN, LIKE HOW ARE THEY USING THOSE DOWNTOWN, UM, SPACES THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT OTHER, UM, CONVENTIONS OR OTHER LARGE, UM, FESTIVALS THAT COME INTO TOWN.

BUSINESS TRAVEL, UM, EX EXPEDIA WOULD HAVE SOME GREAT DATA FOR US.

THAT'S A, UM, I LOVE THE OBSERVATION ABOUT THE CHURCHES IS VERY ASTUTE.

THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS NOT A REVENUE BEARING, UM, EVENT.

YOU KNOW, UH, OF ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE, WE TALK FESTIVALS, THAT'S A FREE EVENT.

AND SO YEAH, THEY'RE REALLY SCRAPPY IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIND ALTERNATIVE SPACE USE.

I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE NEED FOR THERE, THERE ARE A FEW OCCASIONS WHEN THEY HAVE A BIG FAMOUS OFFER AND THEY NEED A BIG ROOM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CAPITAL COMES IN.

BUT, UM, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT'S WORTH DIGGING INTO, NOT, NOT JUST TO STUDY, YOU KNOW, UH, THE CONSUMER OR THE TRAVEL DATA, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, BUT TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF IT.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE VERY USEFUL AND GOOD TO DISCUSS.

UM, I, SORRY, I HAVE COMMISSIONER CHAPEL IN, IN THE INBOX.

SO , THANK YOU FOR, UH, CLICKING ON MY EMAIL.

THE, UH, I THINK ALSO FOR TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION TOURISM, WE SHOULD INCLUDE THE AUSTIN TECHNOLOGY COUNCIL AND GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER MATHESON'S CONVERSATION EARLIER, RIGHT SOUTH BY AND THE TECHNOLOGY IMPACT BOTH AS A FINANCIAL DRIVER FOR THE CITY, BUT ALSO AS A TOURISM DRIVER, UH, FOR THE CITY.

SO EXPANDING OUR KNOWLEDGE BASED IN THAT AREA, I THINK WOULD BE GOOD USE IN INCORPORATING THAT TIME IF WE DID LIKE A FOLLOWUP SOUTH BY IN JUNE OR JULY, PROBABLY JUNE.

BUT I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD TOPIC TO PULL 'EM TOGETHER FOR SPEAKERS.

UM, I, I SALUTE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION, COMMISSIONER CHAP AND I WILL DEFINITELY SAY TO THE WHOLE BODY TRYING TO PINPOINT INSIDE OUR VAST TECHNOLOGY SECTOR, WHAT, WHO WOULD BE THE, WHO WOULD HAVE THE BEST ABILITY TO LOOK AT WHAT, HOW THAT MIGHT TOUCH THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.

I THINK IT, WE NEED TO BRING THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN TO HELP US EXPAND THAT TOPIC FOR SURE.

WELL, AND I ALSO THINK THERE'S RIGHT CONSUMER TOURISM AND THEN THERE'S BUSINESS TOURISM AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, RIGHT.

WE'RE ATTRACTING WITH OUR CONVENTIONS AND WITH THE B2B AND ALSO, RIGHT.

YOU ENJOYED HAVING THE CONVENTION HERE, MOVE YOUR BUSINESS HERE, BRING YOUR WHOLE OPERATIONS HERE AS A SECONDARY CAT SECONDARY CATEGORY.

SO, SO IF I HEAR, YEAH, IT'S JUST DOING AN INVENTORY OF HOW MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONFERENCES TAKE PLACE HERE THAT HAVE TOUCHED THE TECHNOLOGY SECTOR.

I BET YOU COMMISSIONER MATHIS, WHO'S GOT HER HAND UP, BUT SHE PROBABLY EVEN HAS A HALF OF AN OPINION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY HOST SOME OF THEM .

UM, WELL, NO, LIKE, MAYBE NOT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS MAYBE GET A MARKET MANAGER FOR EXPEDIA, BECAUSE WHEN THEY DO PRESENTATIONS TO THE HOTELS ONCE A YEAR, THEY HAVE EXCELLENT DATA AS FAR AS ALL OF THE, UM, THE MARKETS THAT ARE COMING INTO AUSTIN AND WHY.

AND THAT ONE WILL HAVE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE AGENCIA, WHICH IS MORE OF LIKE A BUSINESS TRA TRAVEL MODEL.

UM, THAT'S PART OF THEM.

BUT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST INDIVIDUAL TRAVEL, LEISURE TRAVEL,

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UM, WHAT I RAISED MY HAND UP BEFORE IS, HAVE WE DECIDED ON WHAT THE TOPIC IS IN JANUARY? DO YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO GET RESTAURANT PERSON HERE? AND IF I DID IT, WHAT'S A DIFFERENT MONTH? 'CAUSE I WILL TRY TO DO THAT.

I'M, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE THERE YET.

WE HAVEN'T JANUARY, BUT I, I MEAN, DO WE, WE DON'T, I THINK I WANNA WAIT TILL THE END TILL WE GET, AND WE'RE ALMOST TO THAT.

I MEAN, WE COULD BE CLOSE TO THAT POINT AND KIND OF AUDIT BACK THROUGH ALL THE, THE, THE BIGGER TOPICS.

I THINK SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA BE CONSOLIDATED RIGHT INTO A THEME AND SOME OF THE IDEAS COME UP CON OKAY.

SOME OF THEM TUCK NATURALLY TOGETHER.

I, I DON'T, I WASN'T FEELING NECESSARILY THAT WE NEEDED JANUARY.

I FEEL LIKE WE MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE STATE, STATE ACTIVITY THAT MM-HMM .

UH, NO, I DON'T MIND.

I JUST WONDERED IF YOU WANTED ME TO TRY TO WRESTLE SOMEONE FAST BECAUSE RIGHT.

NO, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S HELPFUL 'CAUSE I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAPPING THE EXPERTISE OF THIS BODY AND THAT WE WILL, THAT WE CAN COUNT ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS HERE.

THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I MEANT DANIEL KIND OF WAS REALLY GOOD AT BEING SELF-CONTAINED.

AND HE DID, HE, HE WENT AFTER THINGS AND OCCASIONALLY HE MIGHT CALL ANY ONE OF US AND SAY, WHO DO YOU KNOW THAT DOES THIS? AND THEN HE WENT AND DID IT.

I, I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE, UH, MORE OF OUR MM-HMM .

COMMISSIONERS TO DO THE OUTREACH.

IT ALL THE, ALL THE OUTREACH DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME FROM THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR.

IT CAN COME FROM A COMMISSIONER WHO KNOWS SOMEBODY AND SAYS, I'M WRITING ON BEHALF OF THE TOURISM COMMISSION, COPYING THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.

BUT YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE AT TEXAS RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION THAT SUPERSEDES ANYTHING.

I HAVE.

YOU HAVE ONE.

WE SHOULD USE YOUR RELATIONSHIP.

UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER THING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, CLEANLINESS, AND SAFETY, LIKE, WOULD WE INVITE LIKE MAYBE SOMEONE FROM A PD OR, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I JUST KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS ON THEIR MIND SOMETIMES.

'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU'LL DRIVE THROUGH SIXTH STREET AND YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, THAT'S ALL CLOSED UP.

AND THEN, HEY, I CAN GET THROUGH AND THEN HEY, LOOK AT ALL THESE CRAZY BARRIERS.

YOU KNOW, LIKE, I GUESS THAT'S GOOD FOR SOMETHING, BUT IT SURE ISN'T ATTRACTIVE.

BUT LISTEN, I MEAN, BOY AM I GRATEFUL FOR THE, THE, UH, THE A PD AND HOW THEY KEEP US SAFE.

I'M NOT WANTING TO BE CRITICAL, BUT SOMETIMES THINGS MAKE MORE SENSE WHEN YOU KNOW WHY THEY'RE HAPPENING AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLAN AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THEM JUST WONDERING.

I I I'M GLAD WE'RE, WE KEEP CIRCLING BACK TO SOME OF THESE TOPICS AND RECONNECTING TO SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, IDEAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER.

AND THAT I THINK THAT ADDS ANOTHER DIMENSION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND SAFETY AND THAT MAY JUST BE A TOPIC, YOU KNOW, THAT LEADS, WE MAY HAVE TO COVER TWO OR THE MASTER PLANNING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MASTER PLANNING FROM A CREATIVE AND CULTURAL AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO SIT NEXT TO A SAFETY AND TRAFFIC.

IT, IT MIGHT BE, WE MIGHT WANNA SPLIT THOSE INTO TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS.

SO EVEN KNOWING THAT THERE IS A HOLE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS HOW THESE ALL COME TOGETHER AND MAKE AUSTIN TO MAKE AUSTIN BETTER.

THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL.

EVERY, THIS IS A HEALTHY CONVERSATION.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPEL, I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, I THINK WE COVERED, YOU COVERED IT.

PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT AND SEND AN EMAIL TO, TO, TO, TO FELICIA, ME AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MASTERS SEND IN THE INSIGHT SAYING I JUST FOUND OUT, UH, YES.

UM, I, I WANT COMMISSIONER SHANNON, THANK YOU.

SO I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT I THINK THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN ADOPTED SOME SORT OF STREET MOBILITY PLAN FOR SIXTH STREET, UM, LAST, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

MAYBE.

UM, I JUST BRING IT UP.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE WRONG.

SOMETHING POPPED OFF IN MY HEAD TOO ABOUT LIKE THE, THE, THE NEW PROCESS OF CLOSING THE STREETS DOWN ON THE WEEKENDS AND ALL OF THAT, THAT THEY'VE, AND I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THAT RAINY STREETS IN THAT BUCKET AND I'VE HEARD THAT THERE ARE POTENTIAL OTHER THOUGHTS MAYBE EVEN GOING INTO RED RIVER, THAT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THESE STREET CLOSURES MAY BE THE WAVE OF THE NEXT, THE NEXT WAVE OF HOW THEY MANAGE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND AROUND ALL THE OTHER STUFF'S GOING ON.

IS THAT, SO I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF AP AP, I'M SURE THAT A PD HAS SOMEONE THAT'S IN THAT CHUTE, BUT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER DIVISION OF THE CITY THAT SOMEONE'S AWARE OF THAT, THAT FROM TRAFFIC AND THAT, THAT MAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EXECUTING OR GETTING THESE PLANS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A-P-D-A-P-D IS PROBABLY COM FOLLOWING THROUGH ON WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE NECESSARILY MASTER PLANNING IT EITHER.

SO WE THAT'S A GOOD, ANYBODY HERE JUMP BALL IF YOU, IF ANYBODY FEELS PASSIONATE ABOUT,

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COMMISSIONER CHENIN, PLEASE.

SO THE, THE ASPECT THAT A PD COULD TALK ABOUT IS, UM, JUST SAFETY DOWNTOWN.

'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT THEY HAVE IDEAS ABOUT SAFETY AND THINGS THAT THEY'VE TRIED TO IMPLEMENT, THINGS THAT HAVE WORKED, THINGS THAT ARE NOT WORKING.

UM, I, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN AT SOME PRESENTATIONS WHEN, WHERE THAT'S HAD SOME OFFICERS COME AND TALK TO US.

THE NEW POLICE CHIEF EVEN, UM, IS VERY ACCESSIBLE.

UM, SO I, I THAT'S FIRST, I MEAN, I'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THE, THE, THE NEW, UH, POLICE.

YOU SAID THE POLICE CHIEF? CORRECT.

WE HAVE A NEW POLICE CHIEF.

GOOD SUGGESTIONS.

UM, I WANTED TO, SINCE I'M, WE'RE IN BETWEEN, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER PRUITT'S COMMENT ABOUT, UH, ACME.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE FORMED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, AND THEY CAME AND ADDRESSED THIS BODY ON MARCH 12TH.

IN OUR MARCH 12TH MEETING, THE DIRECTOR CAME AND SPOKE TO US.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS LOOKING AT WHEN I WENT BACK THROUGH TODAY, AND I SAID, I LOOKED BACK THROUGH AGENDAS AND I WATCHED A COUPLE VIDEOS, BUT MOSTLY I WAS JUST CHECKING AGENDAS.

UH, I DID GO TO THE ACME SITE AND THEY HAD LAID DOWN THEIR, LIKE A THREE PRONGED PROCESS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO, UH, UH, PUT IN PLAY.

AND I, I WAS THINKING, WELL, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD TIME TO CHECK IN AND SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING, RIGHT? BECAUSE I YOU, YOU COULDN'T BE MORE RIGHT.

THAT ACME THE COLLECTIVE ACME THE THINGS THAT WERE COLLAPSED TO MAKE ACME A AN A NEW DEPARTMENT ABSOLUTELY TOUCHES OUR, OUR INTERESTS AND THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.

AND, AND IN, IN, IN MOST DIRECTLY IN THE FACT THAT, UM, LIKE THE HERITAGE DOLLARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT KIND OF FLOW THROUGH THEM, HOW, AND SO WE'RE PUTTING IN OUR HOT TAX AND THEY'RE DOING THE PROCESS.

AND I NOTICED GOING IN THERE THAT, THAT TOMORROW IS THE FINAL DAY THAT YOU CAN SUBMIT FOR A HERITAGE GRANT FOR THE NEXT 2026 BUDGET CYCLE.

SO THAT WE'RE ONE DAY OFF FROM THEM CLOSING, UM, APPLICATIONS.

SO THEY DEFINITELY HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING.

I WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THE, THE, UH, RECIPIENTS WHO RECEIVED DOLLARS FROM THE HERITAGE FUND LAST YEAR.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE TO GO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT, IT SHOW, I MEAN THAT THAT 15, IS IT $15 MILLION? UH, CORRECT ME.

DOES THAT ABOUT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? COMMISSIONER SHANNON? SO THERE'S $15 MILLION IN THAT BUDGET AND YOU CAN GO THROUGH AND SEE WHO GOT WHAT.

AND IN SOME CASES I DEFINITELY CAN SEE, I DEFINITELY CAN SEE, UM, MANY OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS AND THINGS BEING A PART OF, UM, OUR BROADER, UM, TOURISM INFRASTRUCTURE AND INDUSTRIES.

SO, BUT I, IT'S BEEN ON MY MIND AND I, I KNOW WHEN YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPEL MADE THE COMMENT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE DISCOVERY OF THE HOT TAX DISCOVERY, IT WAS THAT IN MY MIND, WHAT POPPED UP IS I WANNA MAKE SURE I, WE SHOULD INVITE A COUPLE, MAYBE MORE OF THOSE RECIPIENTS WHO GOT THE MONEY AND THERE'S A BUNCH TO COME IN AND TELL US HOW'S IT GOING, HOW'S THAT MONEY HELPED YOU? HOW DID THAT GROW TOURISM FOR YOU? I'D LIKE TO START IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN, LIKE THE SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK AND THE DARTY CENTER.

THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER CULTURAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE COME TO US MAKING APPEALS AND TRYING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CONTRIBUTE.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOME BIG DOLLARS BEING GIVEN OUT THROUGH THE HERITAGE PROGRAM TO, TO MANY WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CONNECTED TO HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR TOURISM ECONOMY AND WISH THEM WELL.

AND, AND I DID, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT 24 AND IT SAID, IT'S ALL THERE.

ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS GO TO THE HERITAGE SECTION AND YOU CAN SEE WHO GOT AWARDS IN 25, 24, 23.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A BIG OVERHAUL THAT HAPPENED IN 2019, WHICH CHANGED THE WAY IT ALL OPERATES.

AND I THINK THAT WAS ALL NECESSARY.

BUT I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE GOING AND, AND THERE EVENTS ARE ALSO IN, UM, THERE ARE HERITAGE EVENTS ARE QUALIFYING FOR THAT AS AS WELL.

I DIDN'T SEE AS MANY.

I WAS HAVING, I HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY.

IT SEEMED MORE OF THEM SEEMED TO BE FACILITY INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIRS AND EXPANSIONS OR FIXING THINGS.

UH, BUT IT, IN FACT, THERE ARE EVENTS DO QUALIFY IF YOU QUALIFY THERE, A, A HERITAGE TYPE EVENT, WHICH COULD MEAN A FESTIVAL.

UM, OKAY, WE'RE AT 3 38 IN OUR MEETING AND I KIND OF HAVE GOAL TO GET US OUTTA HERE BY FOUR, IF NOT SOONER.

YEP.

SO WE GOT 20

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MORE MINUTES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE USE IT THE WAY THAT Y'ALL WANNA USE IT AND WRAP THIS TOPIC UP.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT, COMMISSIONER STEIN? YES.

I WAS GOING TO, UH, SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE, UH, I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TOPICS NOW WE CAN MOVE INTO, UM, CONFERRING ON WHO TO PRIORITIZING YES, PRIORITIZING AND WHO TO INVITE IN, UH, JANUARY AND OKAY.

UM, ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A, A PLAY FOR WE'RE ALL LISTENING AND HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION.

DOES ANYTHING HERE SEEM TO JUMP OUT MORE NOW? I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER MASTERS, YOU ACTUALLY PUT A, PUT A TITLE ON JANUARY ALREADY.

WHAT OR NOT TITLE, BUT THE TOPIC.

WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR FLAVOR ON THIS? I HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SNAZZY TITLE, WHICH DANIEL, I THINK WAS VERY GOOD AT .

UM, SO I DON'T HAVE A SNAZZY TITLE YET, BUT, UM, HAVE IT CONNECTING WHAT OTHER FOLKS HAVE SAID ABOUT USE OF HOT FUNDS, KIND OF THE FIVE WS.

UM, WHERE IS, WHERE HAS OUR MONEY BEEN SPENT TRADITIONALLY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENT KIND OF OVERSEES ALL THAT FINANCE, SOME FIGURING THAT OUT, CONNECTING THAT WITH LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND THEN HOPEFULLY, OR POTENTIALLY ALSO, UM, POTENTIALLY, UH, TALKING TO ANOTHER CITY MAYBE EITHER IN THE MEANTIME OR TO GET ANOTHER IDEA FOR A SPEAKER.

COMMISSIONER PININE? YES.

SO, UH, DID, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MASTERS FOLLOW UP FROM YOU.

I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK THE CITY'S, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO TIE INTO THE, UH, DISCUSSION AROUND THE FIVE WS AND, UM, HOT TAX.

SORRY.

AND THE FINANCE AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR, FOR THAT SUGGESTION.

I THOUGHT I, I THOUGHT MY PERIPHERAL SAW A HAND FLASH OVER HERE.

SORRY, I FLIPPED OVER HERE REAL QUICK TO SEE.

WAS IT YOU? IT WAS YOU.

I DID SEE ONE.

SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I'VE KIND OF BEEN ORGANIZING AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING, UM, AS WELL INTO LIKE OUR, OUR BUCKETS RATHER, WHETHER THAT'S THE HOT TAX, DEEP DIVE IN COMPLIANCE.

UM, BUT IF WE DID JANUARY, I THINK IT DOES WORK FOR SERVICE INDUSTRY AND WORKFORCE CHALLENGES IF WE WANNA DO THAT.

OR WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT THOUGH, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN KEEP A WORKING LIKE A, A WORKSHEET OPEN AND DISCUSS THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT THE AGENDAS RIGHT UNTIL A CERTAIN DATE.

SO WE DON'T NEED TO FINALIZE MONTH BY MONTH RIGHT NOW ON THIS DIAZ.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO.

CARE ABOUT WORKERS AND THE CONDITIONS AFFECTING, UH, THE WORKING CLASS THROUGH THE HOSPITALITY AND THE SHIFTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE TOWN.

I I, I, NOT ONLY DO I WANNA, UM, VALIDATE AND AMPLIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, COMMISSIONER CHAPEL, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO LOCK IN AN ENTIRE YEAR.

I, I, I THINK COMMISSIONER POSI MIGHT HAVE MADE THE STATEMENT THAT IF WE CAN GET THE FIRST SIX MONTHS KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED AND THEN WE, WE WE'RE LEAVING OURSELVES FLEXIBILITY TO BUILD OUT NEW THINGS THAT OCCURRED TO US.

AND I, AND I, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT WILL BECOME NECESSARY.

SO I I AM, I'M AGREEING WITH IT.

WE CAN KEEP THIS KIND OF LOOSE AND WE CAN MOVE THINGS AROUND.

WHAT, AND AND SO THE GOAL NOW IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT JANUARY, FEBRUARY IS AND THEN, AND IT COULD BE THAT JANUARY, FEBRUARY END UP HAVING A FLIP FLOP.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ALMOST EQUALS COMING INTO THIS CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BACKUP PLAN.

IF WE START TO STRIKE OUT ON OUR A PLAN FOR JANUARY, WE CAN DROP INTO B PLAN, WHICH IS WHATEVER WE ALL SAID FEBRUARY AUDIT COULD BE.

SO, UM, I KNOW THAT I DIDN'T, I KNOW THIS, THIS IS REALLY, IT WAS A PIECE OF A CONVERSATION.

I I THINK THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER PRUITT TOUCHED ON IN ONE OF HER EARLIER COMMENTS, BUT IT WAS ALSO A COMMENT WE HAD AFTER OUR LAST MEETING OR DISCUSSION WE HAD.

BUT I, I HAD, UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD UNIONS.

WE HAD THE LOCAL I-A-T-S-E-A-F-F-M, BOTH OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS CAME TO SPEAK TO US, THE HOSPITALITY WORKERS IN NOVEMBER 23.

IT'S BEEN SINCE NOVEMBER 23 THAT WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN, FROM THE WORKING.

AND THAT TO ME, YOU, YOU MENTIONED HOSPITALITY, YOU'RE, SO, I, I AM WONDERING WHETHER THAT TOPIC COULD BE THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY IF, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT, UM, WHAT WHEN WE DO THE INVITATION, DANIEL TYPICALLY WAS TRIED TO BE AS SPECIFIC AS HE COULD ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND SO WE DON'T GET THE USUAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE ALWAYS WILL GET IS THEY'LL GIVE US A 1 0 1 ON THEIR ORGANIZATION.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS ON THIS COMMISSION THAT

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SO, I MEAN, MAYBE WE WON'T NAIL THAT PRECISELY HERE.

I'M THROWING IT OUT THERE IN CASE SOMEONE HAS A QUICK ANSWER.

BUT GOING BACK TO HAVING AN OPEN DIALOGUE THROUGH THE WEBSITE, UM, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT, UM, WE SHOULD BE AS SPECIFIC AS WE CAN ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM THOSE TRADE ORGANIZATIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, I'M SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, UM, COMMISSIONER P, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU, YOU HAD SOME SPECIFIC THOUGHTS.

I MIGHT BE CATCHING YOU OFF GUARD, I APOLOGIZE.

NO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FINE.

UM, I, THERE'S JUST BEEN, SINCE THE PANDEMIC, WE'VE ALL SEEN SUCH A HUGE SHIFT, UM, IN HOW ANY OF US PARTICIPATE IN GOING TO SPACES WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE.

UM, AND SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE ARTS AND PER THE PERFORMING ARTS INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN HAS SHRUNK QUITE A BIT.

UM, EVEN THOUGH LARGE CONCERT HALLS LIKE BASS CONCERT HALLS ARE HAVING TROUBLE, UM, NOT ONLY, UM, WELL GETTING PEOPLE TO BUY TICKETS TO THINGS, UM, BUT ALSO FINDING, UM, THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO WORK THEIR SHOWS BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 200 TO 300 PEOPLE THAT WORK ALL OF THE EVENTS IN THIS TOWN.

AND SO, IN MY EXPERIENCE, UM, WHEN IT WAS LIKE ACL WEEKEND, WE ALMOST DIDN'T EVEN HAVE EVENTS AT BASS CONCERT HALL BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FIND HOTELS, , WE COULDN'T FIND CARS AND THEN WE COULDN'T FIND PEOPLE TO WORK IT.

AND THEN DURING THE PANDEMIC, A LOT OF PEOPLE LEFT, JUST LEFT THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING STABLE FOR THEM TO DO AND THEY DID NOT RETURN.

SO I THINK THAT FOR AUSTIN BEING A PERFORMING ARTS CULTURE AND FOR BEING A, I'M SURE IT'S A SIMILAR STORY IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY, ASKING THEM WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST LIKE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS FOR THE SCENE.

UM, AND THE PERFORMING ARTS COMMUNITY IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A BIG DRAW TO, UM, OUR CITY, UM, TO BE HERE.

YOU COME FOR, YOU KNOW, THE CONVENTION 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR BOSS PAID FOR, BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA GO OUT AT NIGHT TO GO SEE THE LIVE MUSIC AND GET THE GOOD BARBECUE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO CURIOUS REALLY HOW THAT HAS CHANGED.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE IE 2 0 5 AND OUR RESTAURATEURS ARE GONNA HAVE A BETTER IDEA TO SHARE WHAT HAS HAPPENED THAN I DO.

I JUST KNOW THAT IT EXISTS.

UH, UH, MS. BURLESON, ARE YOU BACK CENTER COURT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MESSAGE FOR US? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SHARE A FEW REMINDERS WHEN WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AN AGENDA.

ONE, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO COMMISSIONERS AND CONSENT WITH EACH OTHER SUPPORTING WHATEVER ITEMS ARE GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA.

SO NOT JUST ONE SINGLE HANDED PERSON, UM, CAN PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

IT NEEDS TO BE SECONDED BY SOMEONE.

TWO, UM, WHEN YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT INVITING SOMEONE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO USE ME AS YOUR MIDDLEMAN IF YOU LIKE.

UM, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH INVITING THOSE WHO YOU WANT TO INVITE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.

BUT DEFINITELY TRY TO, UM, CC EITHER MYSELF OR ANOTHER COMMISSIONER THAT'S IN AGREEMENT TO WHEN YOU DO INVITE, IT IS BEST PRACTICE TO SHARE WHAT, WHAT, UM, QUESTIONS YOU ARE WANTING TO SUBMIT TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS OR DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.

WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON DEPARTMENTS, IT'S VERY MUCH EXPECTED AND APPRECIATED THAT YOU GIVE THEM AT LEAST TWO WEEKS NOTICE.

BEF UM, IF YOU ASK THEM THE WEEK BEFORE, YOU PROBABLY WILL GET DENIED ONLY BECAUSE IT MAY NOT FIT THEIR SCHEDULE.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GIVE THEM AT LEAST TWO WEEKS NOTICE IN ADVANCE AND WITH WHAT QUESTIONS ARE WE ACTUALLY ASKING THEM.

UM, NOT FOR THEM JUST TO COME AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

UM, AND THEN THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE BLINDSIDED BY WHAT QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

SO THEY WON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS FOR YOU IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENTS WHEN YOU ARE STARTING TO PREPARE YOUR AGENDAS.

THOSE ARE ALL HELPFUL.

THANK YOU FOR THE OFFER AND FOR CLARIFYING.

ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE DOING THIS TRANSITION, IT'S GOOD TO TO TO BE REMINDED BEST PRACTICES AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR OFFER.

UM, I PERSONALLY INTEND TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH FREEDOM TO DO INVITES AS I'M, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY.

I'M, I'M

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I KNOW THAT DANIEL WAS VERY, UM, HE FELT VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT MAKING THE CONNECTIONS AND I UNDERSTAND WHY AND, BUT I THINK THERE ARE TIMES THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, WE COULD COVER MORE GROUND IF WE CAN GIVE YOU A HIT LIST AND WE CAN DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

UM, COMMISSIONER PRUITT AND I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I'M HAPPY TO, UM, CONDENSE WHAT I SHARED AND THAT TO BE ABLE TO PASS ALONG TO WHOEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE ASKING TO COME SPEAK, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF ROUNDED OUT FOR EVERYBODY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT OFFER.

AND I WAS, I WAS GONNA GO EVEN ONE BETTER IS THAT IF YOU SPECIFICALLY KNOW, LIKE OF A POSITION OR IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE HAVE THE MOST COMMAND OR THE BROADEST PURVIEW FOR WITHIN SOME OF THESE, UH, THE, THE, THE UNION AREA, BUT ALSO I HEARD YOU MENTION PLACES LIKE BASS.

THERE COULD BE A PERSON WHO'S IN A, IN A, IN A FUNCTIONAL POSITION THAT HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND CAN GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A LONG-TERM VIEW OF THE SHIFTING LANDSCAPE OF WORK IN, IN THESE FIELDS AND WHAT THINGS HAVE IMPACTED THEM.

WE, WE WANNA HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND INVITE THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

SO ANYBODY WHO KNOW, IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE WE'RE ZEROING IN ON THE RIGHT ASKS SURE.

THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT INVITATIONS.

UH, COMMISSIONER CHAPEL.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN BAILEY.

UM, SO IF THE, THE CITY HAS A PARKING PROGRAM, RIGHT? SO MAYBE WE COULD HAVE THEM COME TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.

HOW EFFICIENT IS THE PROGRAM? WE COULD ASK THEM TWO POLICY UPDATES THAT THEY WOULD CHANGE FOR THAT PROGRAM AND GET, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THE TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROGRAM.

BUT THEY COULD GIVE US, YOU KNOW, AND OF THEIR USERS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY.

AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHAPPEL.

AND THEY DEFINITELY DID A, YOU KNOW, THEY DID AN OVERHAUL.

I'M JUMPING INTO, I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SAYING THE, UM, THEY DID CHANGE THE FINE STRUCTURE LAST YEAR ON PARKING IN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WAY.

AND THEY LAUNCHED THE APP, THE PARKING APP, UH, PARKING A TX OR WHATEVER.

SO LAST YEAR THERE WAS SOME, SOME MOVES IN THAT ARENA.

I MEAN, BY OPENING UP THE APP AND TRYING TO MAKE MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE WITH PARKING AND BY BASICALLY DOUBLING UP THE PARKING FINES, UM, THOSE WERE ALL PART OF A CONCERTED EFFORT.

SO I THINK IT DOVETAILS INTO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT HEARING WHY, HOW, HOW THEY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION.

AND THEN THERE'S THE PIECE ABOUT ALL THE THIRD PARTIES WHO ARE TAKING OVER SPACES UNDER CONTRACT AND HOW THOSE ARE BEING MANAGED AND WHAT THOSE FACILITIES MEAN TO CONSUMER AND TRAVELERS.

I MEAN, PART OF THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT'S THE RENTAL CAR STRUCTURE LOOK LIKE? DRIVE IN RENTAL CAR UBERING.

I, I DARE SAY THAT I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A MA MAJOR SHIFT IN THE RENTAL CAR INDUSTRY THAT'S RESHAPING HOW PARKING WORKS FROM, AT LEAST FROM A TOURISM PERSPECTIVE, THAT A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO UBERS WHO ARE TRAVELERS.

AND I, I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT VALIDATED.

I'M SURE VISIT AUSTIN HAS STATISTICS ON THAT.

WELL, UH, YOU HAVE TO CALL ON ME.

DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH.

OR YOUR PHONE'S GOING OFF? NO, YOUR PHONE'S GOING OFF TO COLIN.

UM, , YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I HAD A COUPLE, I HAD, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY, UH, LOOK AT THE AIRPORT.

I WANNA PUT THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, BUT I THINK THE AIRPORT'S A BIG TOPIC.

UM, AND I THINK THEY CAN ALMOST OWN A MEETING, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE GO WITH THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF IT.

I MEAN THERE, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE TOP IMPACT SHIFTS THAT ARE GONNA IMPACT OUR TOURISM INDUSTRY IS HOW THEY, HOW THE AIRPORT, WHAT THE AIRPORT'S SHIFTING PLANS AND EXPANSION.

SO, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT CLOSE IN NECESSARILY, BUT NOT BECAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS, BUT I, I DO WANNA SAY, I WANNA PAY ATTENTION TO, LIKE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT COULD WE GET SOUTH BY TO COME IN AND TALK TO US BEFORE THEY, THEY DO THEIR EVENT IN MARCH AND I'M, I'M INCREDULOUS FROM WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR GAME PLAN TOGETHER.

I I THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO FILL POSITIONS THAT, ALL OF THAT.

UH, I'M ALMOST CONVINCED IF WE COULDN'T DO IT IN JAN, WE CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER GET 'EM IN FEBRUARY.

THERE'S NO WAY WE WOULD GET HISTORICALLY THEY'RE TOO BUSY IN FEBRUARY THAT TO COME IN HERE WHEN THEY'RE READY TO PULL OFF THEIR VET IN MARCH.

THEY'RE ALL WORKING LIKE 70 HOURS A WEEK IN FEBRUARY TO GET READY FOR MARCH.

IT.

SO I I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I KNOW THERE'S A SUGGESTION THAT WE GET 'EM BEFORE, GET 'EM AFTER.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE WORTH OUR BANDWIDTH TO TRY TO GET 'EM IN BEFORE, BUT I ABSOLUTELY THINK WE NEED TO GET THEM IN HERE AFTER AND GET A

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DEEP, DEEP DEBRIEF ON WHAT SHIFTED.

'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE STILL MAKING IT UP AS THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE WHAT THEY SAY, BUILDING THE WINGS, CHIP IT OUTTA THE PLANE AND BUILDING THE WINGS ON THE WAY DOWN.

I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON OVER THERE RIGHT NOW THAT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM INTEL, THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY QUALIFIED TO COME IN AND SPEAK.

ALTHOUGH IT DID CA CAPTURE MY ATTENTION THAT THEY ANNOUNCED.

UM, THE LUCK REUNION, WHICH IS ALL THE WAY OUT IN PER ALICE IS NOW GONNA BE OFFICIALLY A PART OF SOUTH BY 2026.

SO SOMETHING'S GOING ON THERE.

I'D LET, UM, SO I I, WITH MY DESIRE TO TRY TO GET US OUTTA HERE IN FIVE MINUTES, UM, I DON'T WANT EVERYBODY HERE TO FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE AGENDA.

I THINK FELICIA, UM, COMMISSIONER MA, MASTERS AND MYSELF CAN TAKE ON THE WORK OF ORGANIZING ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS AND STRUCTURE THEM INTO A DRAFT THAT WE CAN REVIEW AND, AND SEND OUT.

THE MAIN THING IS WE NEED TO LOCK IN ON JANUARY AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A DIRECTION.

DID I GET, I THINK FEBRUARY? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY VERBALIZED WHAT WE THINK THE BACKUP TOPIC IS.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE, SO I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING AT THESE IN, IN MY OWN MIND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE CO LAND I THINK CAN PROBABLY WAIT.

ALTHOUGH WE'RE REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT UT FOOTBALL.

I THINK THE WHOLE SPORTS THING IS GONNA BE REALLY INTERESTING AND I THINK WE SHOULD DIG INTO THAT.

AND UT SPORTS IS THE THIRD LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR UT FOOT HOME FOOTBALL GAMES.

IT'S ACL FEST.

IT'S THE FORMULA ONE, ACL FESTIVAL AND UT FOOTBALL GAMES AND THE AUSTIN RADIO, THOSE ARE THE TOP FOUR PERFORMERS.

SO EIGHT, EIGHT NIGHT, EIGHT HOME GAMES DELIVERS A WALL TO THIS.

WE NEED ANOTHER PLAYOFF GAME NEXT YEAR.

SO WE COULD JUST SIT BY AND NOT DO ANYTHING YEAH.

ON THOSE ONES BECAUSE THERE, I DON'T, SO FOR JUST GOING BACK FOR YES.

SCHEDULING, RIGHT? SO MAYBE WE DO FEBRUARY BECOMES MORE OF A HOT TAX CONVERSATION AND IF WE DID JANUARY ON SERVICE WORKERS AND AFFORDABILITY, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE PARKING AND PERHAPS THERE'S A WAY THAT THERE'S A PERCENTAGE OF HOT TAX THAT CAN BE ESTABLISHED TO CREATE AN OFF PEAK PARKING LIKE SUBSIDY PROGRAM.

SO THAT WOULD BE AN ACTION ITEM ALSO FOR JANUARY THAT WE WOULD HAVE KIND OF A GOAL THAT WE'RE DRIVING TOWARDS RATHER THAN JUST LEARNING ABOUT THESE THINGS.

RIGHT? SO IF WE HAVE THE PROBLEM AND THEN HOW TO ADDRESS IT WOULD BE ONE.

AND THEN ALSO SAFETY WOULD BE THE SECOND PART OF THAT FOR WORKER SAFETY.

AND I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT I KNOW THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE NEWS WITH CITY COUNCIL AND PERHAPS, UM, NEW TECHNOLOGY AND CAMERAS AND THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD TIE IN BACK FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, AN AREA THAT THIS BODY SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE AN AWARENESS AND A CONNECTION POINT IN AS, AS IT COULD CURTAIL INTO OTHER THINGS.

BUT JUST THESE ARE SMALL AREAS AND I THINK THOSE WOULD WORK FOR JANUARY TO DO PUBLIC SAFETY, AFFORDABILITY, HAVE IT FOCUSED ON PARKING, UH, AND SAFETY.

THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING AS WE GO.

I MEAN, YOU'RE GOOD AT THAT AND I APPRECIATE WHAT I, I APPRECIATE IT FOR SURE.

I WILL.

I'M SURE THAT FELICIA HAS GOT ALL THIS LOCKED AND LOADED AND WE'LL GET IN THERE, BUT , BUT WE WILL, UM, FEEL FREE TO SEND SOME OF THESE COMMENTS BACK AND YOU CAN SEND THEM TO US, SEND THEM TO FELICIA.

BUT COMMUNICATE, I, I MEAN IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURE AND DON'T NEGLECT ONE OF THOSE TOPICS.

I MEAN, YOU, THAT WAS A GOOD LIST.

YOU JUST RATTLED OFF, BUT I, BUT I DIDN'T MAKE NOTES ON ALL OF IT, SO PLEASE STAY WITH US.

YEAH, I GOT HIM.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH THIS MEETING TODAY OR ON THIS TOPIC? DID YOU, DO WE ALL FEEL LIKE WE GOT AMPLE USE? OKAY, I SEE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

IS THAT I'D SECOND THAT.

IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR MOTION? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER CHAPEL FOR THE MOTION.

AND COMMISSIONER GOMEZ, YOU SECOND THE MOTION.

I SAW YOU DOWN THERE WITH A HEAVY TIE.