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          [00:00:05]
          IS 6:00 PM 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
I'M GONNA CALL. 
          OH, HELLO. 
          WE LOST THE LIGHTS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          JUST GOT BIE IN HERE. 
          AND WE'RE OUT. 
           . 
          THE TIME IS 6:00 PM WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST GETTING STARTED, UM, WITH THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, IT IS WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1ST. 
          WE ARE AT THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER ROOM 1405 AT 6 3 1 0 WILLAMINA DELCO DRIVE, AUSTIN, TEXAS. 
          AND WE'LL START BY ESTABLISHING QUORUM WITH ATTENDANCE. 
          AND I WILL GO ONLINE TO CHAIR BRISTOL. 
          CHAIR BRISTOL. 
          CAN YOU DENOTE IF YOU'RE HERE? OKAY. 
          I WILL SKIP HER FOR NOW. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER FLURRY HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER LUKEY? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER RESI? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER MORRISON. 
          PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER BRIMER? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER RETO. 
          RE HERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND I'M VICE CHAIR KRUGER. 
          GONNA TRY AGAIN. 
          CHAIR BRISTOL. 
          CAN YOU HEAR US? OH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU THOUGH. 
          I CAN'T HEAR YOU THOUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          REGARDLESS. 
          WE DO HAVE QUORUM. 
          OH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          SEE IF WE CAN WORK OUT THE AUDIO ISSUES. 
          CAN YOU TRY AGAIN? CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING? WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          OH, NOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN SEE THAT. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE QUORUM, I THINK WE'RE OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD FOR NOW. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, 
          [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
IS THERE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMUNICATION CHAIR? WE HAVE CORBIN GRAHAM HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. 
          CORBIN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          GREAT. 
          AND COMMISSIONER BRIER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TURNING OFF YOUR MIC SO WE DON'T GET THE FEEDBACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EVENING. 
          UM, ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, THIS BODY PLANNED TO PASS A RESOLUTION TO TEST THE LEACHATE ENTERING THE WALNUT CREEK NATURE PRESERVE. 
          BUT POST POSTPONE THE VOTE. 
          BECAUSE I WAS IN LITIGATION WITH THE POLLUTER, I THEN PAID FOR THE STUDY MYSELF. 
          ST. 
          EDWARDS UNIVERSITY STUDENTS WILL CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY WITH THE STATE OVERLAYING IT WITH DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT LINKS POLLUTANTS TO SOCIAL EQUITY CONCERNS. 
          I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. 
          ALLOCATING FUNDING TO UNDERFUNDED AREAS OR UNDERREPRESENTED OR OFTEN BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS IS A POLITICAL PROBLEM BECAUSE IT TAKES FUNDS THAT WOULD'VE GONE TO RICH NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND THIS IS A WELL KNOWN, UH, SOCIAL ISSUE AND POLITICAL ISSUE IN AUSTIN. 
          AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR. 
          AND, UM, I'M ADVOCATING THAT WE FIX PERMANENTLY A LANDFILL THAT IS KNOWINGLY DUMPING TOXIC MATERIAL INTO AUSTIN. 
          ITS PRIVATE PROPERTY, ITS WATERSHEDS. 
          SO NOW THAT THAT LITIGATION IS OVER, UH, SINCE IT WAS DISMISSED RECENTLY, AND UH, I WANT TO ASK THIS BODY TO PLEASE, UH, REQUEST A BRIEFING FROM CITY STAFF ON THE NATURE OF THE LANDFILL LEACHATE LEAKAGE, AND TO REVIEW STUDIES THAT WE HAVE COMMISSIONED FROM ENVIRONMENTAL COMM ENGINEERS ON HOW TO SOLVE IT. 
          WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IT IS NOT POLITICALLY PALATABLE TO DO A PERMANENT SOLUTION 'CAUSE IT TAKES TOO MUCH MONEY. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          WE HAVE A CLEAR PATH TO WHAT TO DO. 
          I'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO PLEASE ASK FOR A BRIEFING ON IT. 
          SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO IGNORE THE CITY ATTORNEY WHEN THEY TELL YOU DON'T DO THAT. 
          THAT'S THE WRONG THING TO DO. 
          INFORMATION IS GOOD. 
          AND WE SHOULD HAVE OPEN DEBATE ABOUT TOXIC WASTE COMING INTO THIS WATERSHED. 
          WE SHOULD BE INFORMED. 
          AND THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM AND APPROPRIATE PUBLIC FORUM TO DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I HOPE THAT YOU DO SO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIR. 
          WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER. 
          SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. 
          ROY WHALEY. 
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ROY, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          I HAVE THIS THING ON. 
          OOH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYWAY, HOW DO Y'ALL, MY NAME IS ROY WHALEY AND I AM UNAFFILIATED, ALTHOUGH I AM A MEMBER OF SIERRA CLUB AND HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES. 
          I WANNA SPEAK TONIGHT JUST QUICKLY WHILE I HAVE A CHANCE ABOUT THIS UPCOMING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CENTER WATER HOG THAT'S GOING TO BE DECIDED BEFORE TOO LONG. 
          ELON MUSK WANTS TO DO THIS. 
          WHAT THE HECK? WHY NOT? HE'S RICH. 
          HE'S GOT MORE MONEY THAN ANY OF US PUT TOGETHER. 
          HE WANTS TO DO IT. 
          GO AHEAD AND LET 'EM SUCK ALL THE WATER OUTTA THE EARTH. 
          LET 'EM SUCK ALL THE WATER THAT WE NEED FOR CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES HERE IN AUSTIN AND LET 'EM JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND DO IT. 
          I MEAN, WHAT THE HECK? HE'S RICH. 
          UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. 
          AND, AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE AQUIFER, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE FARMERS IN BASTROP COUNTY, ET CETERA. 
          DON'T WORRY ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE HERE. 
          HE'S ELON MUSK, HE'S RICH. 
          HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT. 
          AND THE GOOD NEWS IS PROBABLY BY THE TIME IT GETS THAT BAD, I'LL BE DEAD. 
          I WON'T EVEN BE HERE. 
          I WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY OF THIS. 
          AND RIGHT NOW, MY KIDS DON'T LIVE HERE. 
          MY GRANDKIDS DON'T LIVE HERE, SO IT WON'T IMPACT THEM. 
          SO WHAT THE HECK? LET 'EM DO IT. 
          LET 'EM SUCK UP ALL THE WATER. 
          AND, UH, THE REST OF MY FAMILY THAT DOES LIVE IN THIS AREA, THEY'RE OUT OF THAT AQUIFER. 
          THEY'RE OUT OF THAT, THAT AREA. 
          SO MY, MY NEPHEWS, NIECES, ET CETERA, WILL SURVIVE. 
          UM, YEAH, HE WANTS TO DO IT. 
          WHO ARE WE TO SAY? NO, I MEAN, HE WANTS IT. 
          MY GOSH, HE WANTS THIS. 
          SO WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND SAY ELON, BY GOLLY, YOU GO DO IT. 
          I MEAN, I, I I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. 
          I BARELY HAVE, UH, ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE MYSELF. 
          AND THAT MIGHT BE THE REASON I'M SAYING ELON. 
          GO GET 'EM BUDDY. 
          WE NEED THAT. 
          DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE THE RICHEST. 
          OH, I ALMOST SAID A BAD WORD. 
          OH, THAT WAS REAL CLOSE. 
          ANYWAY, LET 'EM DO IT. 
          I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT CAN GO WRONG? WHAT COULD GO WRONG? THANKS Y'ALL. 
          I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. 
          I'M GLAD Y'ALL ARE HERE AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE ON THIS AREA HERE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          AND I'M GONNA HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          IT'S JUST THAT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          AND THAT MEANS THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE. 
          SO THANKS AGAIN, Y'ALL. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. 
          I'M GONNA RUMBLE MYSELF ON BACK. 
          ADIO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WOULD YOU MIND TURNING OFF THE MIC, ROY, BEFORE YOU LEAVE? THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST WANNA NOTE FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CHANG, SET AND COMMISSIONER FI ON THE DAIS. 
          SO NEXT I WILL ENTERTAIN 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
A MOTION TO APPROVE LAST MEETING'S MINUTES. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, SECONDED BY BRIMER. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          I SEE UNANIMOUS THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          UM, AND LET'S TRY AGAIN. 
          CHAIR BRISTOL, IS YOUR MIC WORKING? UNFORTUNATELY, NO, NOT YET. 
          WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON THAT QUIETLY. 
          IT WORKS ON WEBEX. 
          IT WAS VERY FAINT. 
          OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON THAT. 
          THE PHONE YOU CAN USE . 
          UM, ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE ARE 
          [2. Name: 1404 East Riverside PUD, C814-2025-0111  ]
GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          SO FIRST UP WE HAVE, UM, 1404 EAST RIVERSIDE, PC 8 1 4 DASH 2025 DASH 0 1 1 1. 
          THE APPLICANT IS AMANDA SWARNER. 
          GROUP LOCATION 1404 EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE, UM, FOR STAFF. 
          FIRST UP WE HAVE SEAN WATSON, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR. 
          AUSTIN WATERSHED PROTECTION. 
          PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TO PUT UP? I LIKE THAT. 
          UH, I GET TO SIT TONIGHT. 
          IT'S KINDA NICE. 
          [00:10:19]
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION. 
          I, YEAH, THAT COULD BE THE APPLICANT'S. 
          WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO TAKE A RECESS TO WORK OUT SOME OF OUR AUDIO AND TECH ISSUES? I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME. 
          WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? OR YOU THINK YOU GOT IT? NO, I GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF WINDOWS, SO TRYING TO CLOSE TO HAVE THE RIGHT ONE OPEN. 
          OKAY, NO WORRIES THERE. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE A CLICKER OR DOES IT SAY NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. 
          OKAY. 
          ONCE AGAIN, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. 
          I DO APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, MY NAME IS SEAN WATSON. 
          I'M ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR FOR AUSTIN WATERSHED PROTECTION. 
          AND THIS EVENING I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON 1404 EAST RIVERSIDE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT REFERENCE NUMBER C 804 2 2 5 0 1 1 1. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          OKAY, SO THIS NEW P IS LOCATED IN THE AUSTIN CITY LIMITS. 
          IT'S OUTSIDE THE EDWARDS AFER RECHARGE ZONE, UH, JUST EAST OF I 35, NORTH OF RIVERSIDE AND SOUTH OF LADY BIRD LAKE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE SITE. 
          YOU CAN SEE LADY BIRD LAKE TO THE NORTH. 
          UM, IT'S UH, 2.62 ACRES. 
          THERE ARE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AS WELL AS WETLAND RIM, ROCK AND SEEP CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE. 
          IT'S IN THE IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR, UH, ALIGNS WITH IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, ZONED EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR, UH, CORRIDOR MIXED USE SUBDISTRICT. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE DISTRICT OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. 
          UM, THIS, UH, SITE DOES HAVE AN APPROVED ACTON SCHOOL REDEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER SP 2 0 2 104 51 C. 
          AND, UH, THE APPROVED SITE PLAN PERMITS 222 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO HERE, HERE'S A, A LAND USE PLAN WITH SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT DARK. 
          THE DARKER DASH LINE THAT RUNS ALMOST, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH THE SITE IS THE 150 FOOT STANDARD WETLAND SETBACK. 
          UM, THE SMALLER DASH LINE ABOVE THAT IS WHERE 
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THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE SETBACK AND THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY PRIMARY SETBACK COINCIDE ALONG WITH THE APPROVED SEEP AND RE REM ROCK SETBACKS THAT WERE APPROVED UNDER THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN. 
          UM, THERE ARE EXISTING HERITAGE TREES ON SITE WHERE THREE HERITAGE TREES ARE TO BE REMOVED AND ONE IS TO BE RELOCATED TO THE BUFFER AREA AT THE NORTH OF THE OF THE SITE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO THE PROPOSED PUD WOULD INCLUDE AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED ACTON SCHOOL REDEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN. 
          UH, SO 381 MULTIFAMILY RES RESIDENTIAL UNITS INCLUSIVE OF THE 15 ON SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. 
          SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ON SITE. 
          APPROXIMATELY 44% OF THE SITE AREA OR 1.17 ACRES WAS DEDICATED, UM, AS PARKLAND TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN PER THE APPROVED SITE PLAN. 
          AS WELL AS FISCAL PAYMENT OF ROUGHLY $109,000 FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS 504,370, LET'S SAY FOUR ADD A PENNY PAID FOR ADDITIONAL FEE AND MOVE, UH, APPLICANT REQUESTS BUILDING HEIGHT OF 180 FEET MAX IMPERVIOUS COVER OF 75% OUTSIDE OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY AND 45% IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR THE OVERALL SITE. 
          SO NOW BACK TO THE HERITAGE TREES. 
          UM, THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE REMOVAL OF HERITAGE TREES. 
          AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE WAS GRANTED WITH THE APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THE REMOVAL OF A 26 INCH AMERICAN ELM TO BE MITIGATED AT A RATE OF 150%. 
          SO THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL FOR REMOVAL OF A 37 INCH LIVE OAK, WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS DEAD DISEASE AND IMMINENT HAZARD. 
          UM, AND, UM, A 32 INCH LIVE OAK WHERE MITIGATION WILL BE 400% OF TOTAL INCHES. 
          UH, I ALSO LIKE TO ALLOW FOR THE REDUCTION OR REQUIRED SETBACKS AND RIM ROCK SEEP AND WETLAND CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON A PROPERTY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL. 
          AND WE'LL COMPLY WITH THE APPROVED WETLAND MITIGATION PLAN THAT WAS PART OF THE, UH, APPROVED SITE PLAN, UH, THAT IN 2021. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, CODE MODIFICATIONS, THERE'S A FEW CODE MODIFICATIONS FOR BUILDING HEIGHT. 
          YOU SEE MODIFICATION OF 25 2 4 9 2 SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. 
          SO CS BASE DISTRICT LIMITED TO 60 FEET MAX HEIGHT. 
          THE P'S ASKING FOR 180 25 2 7 3 4 D EAST RIVERSIDE SUBDISTRICT REGULATIONS. 
          UH, MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS A LOWER OF 96 FEET, OR THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED IN THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT PUT IS ASKING FOR 180 FEET, UH, 25 2 7 3 4 C EAST RIVERSIDE SUBDISTRICT REGULATIONS FOR AN AREA NOT INCLUDED IN A PRIMARY SETBACK OR A SECONDARY SETBACK AREA. 
          THE MAXIMUM PREVIOUS COVER IS 50%. 
          THIS PUT IS ASKING FOR 70% MAX, UH, 25 8 6 4 2 C. 
          ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE IS AMENDED TO ALLOW APPROVAL FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE, UM, HERITAGE TREES. 
          ONE IS DEAD DISEASE IMMINENT HAZARD. 
          UM, SO THERE'S NO MITIGATION REQUIRED FOR THAT. 
          AND A 32 INCH LIVE OAK WOULD HAVE 400% MITIGATION. 
          AND THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ELM, UH, WOULD HAVE 150% MITIGATION RATE. 
          AND THAT SAID BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, CODE MODIFICATION OF 25 8 2 8 1 C ONE A, WHICH IS TO, UM, ALLOW FOR THE REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED SETBACKS TO CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          OKAY, SO THIS IS THE WETLAND MITIGATION PLAN. 
          UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AND IT HAS SOME SUPERIOR OR SUPERIORITY ELEMENTS ADDED TO IT. 
          UM, SO WE'LL START THE MITIGATION, WETLAND MITIGATION. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THESE, THE STANDARD 150 FOOT WETLAND SETBACK. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND THE PRIMARY OVERLAY SETBACK TO THE NORTH OF THAT. 
          THAT IS ALSO THE SETBACK THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE SEEPS AND RIM ROCKS. 
          SO THERE IS A MODIFICATION OF THE WETLAND, PRIMARY SETBACK IF YOU CAN SEE IN RED. 
          SO BASICALLY THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THESE, UM, ENHANCED OUTFALLS. 
          AND THIS WAS, UM, DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, OUR GEOLOGISTS, SEA OF AUSTIN GEOLOGISTS WORKED WITH THEM TO, TO LINE UP THESE OUTFALLS TO LIKE, FOR HAVING LIKE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF EFFECT ON RIM 
          [00:20:01]
ROCKS AND OTHER CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          SO PART OF, UH, WHAT GOES ALONG WITH MITIGATION IS 6 0 9 S SEATING, SO NATIVE SEATING IN THE PINK AREAS. 
          UM, YOU ALSO HAVE IN THE MIDDLE IN THE ORANGE AREAS OF BIOFUEL POND. 
          AND UP TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS A RAIN GARDEN, WHICH IS JUST KIND OF TO THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THAT OUTFALL ON THE TOP RIGHT. 
          IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          BUT, UM, THERE'S ALSO THE YELLOW ARE ENHANCED OUTFALLS SO THAT THE TWO OUTFALLS HAVE ENHANCED, UM, OUTFALLS. 
          THERE'S LIKE PLANTING BUNCH GRASSES AND, AND CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT TO DISSIPATE, UH, UM, STORM WATER FLOW. 
          THEN YOU ALSO HAVE IN THE MIDDLE COMING OFF OF THAT BIO FILTRATION POND, THERE'S A MODIFIED STEALING BASE IN GA BEYOND, UH, BASKETS. 
          SO BASICALLY BUNCH GRASS IS THERE TOO TO KIND OF DISSIPATE FLOW. 
          UM, YOU ALSO HAVE THE BLUE, UH, TO THE NORTH THERE. 
          YES, THOSE ARE, UH, PLANTINGS IN THE BUFFER AS PART OF THE MITIGATION. 
          AND THEN THE GREEN CIRCLE THERE, THAT'S THE HERITAGE OAK. 
          THAT'S TO BE, UH, RELOCATED, UM, AS PART OF ENVIRONMENTAL SUPERIORITY. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOWER LEFT, THAT RED HATCHED AREA, THAT'S MANLOVE STREET. 
          AND SO THAT'S A, UH, AN AREA THAT DOES NOT GET TREATED. 
          IT FLOWS STRAIGHT INTO LANEY BIRD LAKE. 
          SO THE APPLICANT HAD CAME UP WITH A, UH, UM, INNOVATIVE STRATEGY TO, TO BASICALLY INSTALL A JELLYFISH FILTER, WHICH WOULD FILTER ALL OF THAT WATER COMING OFF OF MAN LIVED STREET. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MORE TO THE WETLAND MITIGATION PLAN. 
          SO HAVE ENHANCED OUTFALLS. 
          AN ENHANCED OUTFALL IS BENEFICIAL FOR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT BECAUSE IT TRANSFORMS LIKE A STANDARD PIPE DISCHARGE POINT INTO AN ENGINEERED SYSTEM THAT REDUCES POLLUTION, PREVENTS EROSION, AND IMPROVES WATER QUALITY BEFORE RUNOFF ENTERS A NATURAL WATER BODY. 
          SO IT'LL BE 6 0 9 S NATIVE, UH, SEEDING ENHANCEMENT AND AS I SAID BEFORE, RAIN GARDEN. 
          AND THAT WILL TREAT RUNOFF FROM, UH, THE ROOF AND THE FIRE LANE. 
          UH, THEY'LL INSTALL A BOWEL FILTRATION POND TO TREAT THE ROOF DRAIN RUNOFF AND MODIFY STEALING BASIN ENLARGED GAON LEVEL SPREADER WITH TWO TO FOUR ROWS OF TALL NATIVE BUNCH GRASSES, ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTINGS AS YOU SAW IN THE EXHIBIT. 
          AND ALSO THERE IS INVASIVE SPECIES REMOVAL. 
          UH, IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE SITE, THERE'S A BIG PATCH OF GOLDEN BAMBOO. 
          UM, AND THERE'S BERMUDA GRASS IN CHINA BERRY THAT'S ALSO PART OF THAT, UH, MITIGATION PLAN. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, ENVIRONMENTAL SUPERIORITY, AS I SAID BEFORE, THE UH, PUDDLE PRO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OFFSITE WATER QUALITY CAPTURE OF THE 7,000 SQUARE FEET THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT BEING TREATED OFF OF MAN LEFT STREET WITH A JELLYFISH FILTER, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO MAINTAIN THE FILTER. 
          AND AS I SAID BEFORE, A 54 INCH LIVE OAK, A HERITAGE TREE WILL BE RELOCATED TO THE REAR OF A PROPERTY IN THAT BUFFER AREA. 
          UH, THEY'VE AGREED TO THREE STAR AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING RATING. 
          AT A MINIMUM, THE PROJECT SHALL COLLECT CONDENSATE FROM AIR CONDITIONING UNITS TO SUPPORT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF GROUND LEVEL IRRIGATION. 
          UM, THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH LEAD PILOT BY COLLISION DETERRENCE CREDIT ST SEVEN, LIGHT POLLUTION REDUCTION, AND COMPLY WITH DARK SKY REGULATIONS. 
          ALL REQUIRED TREE PLANTING SHALL UTILIZE NATIVE TREE SPECIES SELECTED FROM APPENDIX F OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL. 
          THE PROJECT SHALL UTILIZE METHODS TO SUPPORT LOCAL AWESOME BIODIVERSITY THROUGH INNOVATIVE NA NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPING AND OR ROOFTOP INSTALLATIONS. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF REQUIRED STORMWATER WILL BE TREATED USING ONSITE WATER QUALITY MEASURES. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT WILL INCLUDE SEVERAL LANDSCAPE SOLUTIONS THAT'LL BE ACHIEVED WITH THE INSTALLATION OF RAISED TARIFF GREEN ROOF MEDIA TO BE PLANTED WITH A FOCUS ON PO POLLINATOR FRIENDLY SPECIES. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ROOFTOP PLANTING SHALL BE NATIVE TO THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, EDWARDS AQUIFER, EDWARDS PLATEAU REGION, AND THE, AND THE BLACKLAND PRAIRIE ECO REGIONS. 
          A MINIMUM OF 10% OF THE ROOF TERRACE SHALL BE DEDICATED TO LANDSCAPE INSTALLATIONS. 
          THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE WILL REMAIN FREE OF DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT FOR THE APPROVED, UH, STORM DRAIN OUTFALLS AND RESTORATION. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ALL NON TURF PLANT MATERIALS WILL BE NATIVE OR ADAPTED SHADE. 
          TREES THAT ARE, THAT ARE NOT INFLUENCED BY UTILITY CONSTRUCTION SHALL BE UPSIZED TO FOUR INCH CALIPER 
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WITHIN THE P AND AS I SAID BEFORE, 1.17 ACRES OF THE PROPERTY IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKLAND, UM, WHICH IS ABOUT 44% OF THE PROPERTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO STACK STAFF, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PL OF THE PUD WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PUD WITH ENVIRONMENTAL SUPPORTY ELEMENTS AS CONDITIONS AS OTHERWISE, SPECIFICALLY MODIFIED BY THE PUD. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT WILL COMPLY WITH CURRENT CODE AND NEXT SLIDE IN THE HEARING SCHEDULE. 
          SO THEY ALREADY WENT BEFORE THE SMALL AREA JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY ON MARCH 10TH. 
          UM, WE'RE HERE WITH ALL YOU LOVELY FOLKS HERE TODAY ON APRIL FOOL'S DAY. 
          UM, AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION IS SET FOR APRIL 14TH. 
          AND THEN CITY COUNCIL IS TO BE DETERMINED. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU. 
          I THINK WE'LL GO NEXT. 
          UM, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE A PRESENTATION? CHECK, CHECK. 
          UM, YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL GO NEXT TO THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION. 
          WE'LL CALL YOU UP AGAIN LATER. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE AMANDA SWORE FROM THE RENER GROUP. 
          HELLO. 
          IT STILL ON? HI, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU I HAVEN'T MET, I'M AMANDA S SWER WITH RENER GROUP. 
          THANKS FOR LETTING US BE HERE WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT. 
          I'VE PRESENTED IN THIS ROOM A TON OF TIMES, I'VE NEVER DONE IT SITTING DOWN, SO IF I GET FIDGETY, UM, UH, BEWARE IF I COULD GRAB MY PRESENTATION UP. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA START WITH THINKING STAFF. 
          LIKE WE, THIS IS A, UM, REALLY EXCITING PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY YEARS, BOTH WITH THE ORIGINAL 2001, UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, AS WELL AS GOING THROUGH THIS PUTT PROCESS AND THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT, WHICH HAS, UM, BEEN NO SMALL FEAT. 
          AND SEAN GAVE AN AMAZING PRESENTATION. 
          SO I'M GONNA VERY MUCH ABBREVIATE MINE. 
          UM, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SO THAT I'M NOT GOING THROUGH THE SAME SLIDES THAT, THAT HE JUST DID. 
          BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE PIECES THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I MENTION. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF NEW COMMISSIONERS, BUT WE SAW, UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOU GUYS BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2005. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT WE WERE, UM, ABLE TO INCORPORATE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THIS COMMISSION AND THEN SOME CHANGES THAT WE MADE AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS WITH STAFF. 
          SO I DO WANNA MAKE SURE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE CHANGES SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES. 
          AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          SO, UH, AT WITH THE AERIAL ON THE SITE, AS STAFF POINTED OUT, THIS IS, UH, A LITTLE OVER TWO AND A HALF ACRE SITE. 
          WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING AND UNIQUE ABOUT IT IS THAT IT IS ALONG WHAT WILL BE A FUTURE RAIL LINE. 
          IT IS A 10TH OF A MILE TO THE BOARDWALK. 
          IT IS LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE TO A RAIL STATION. 
          UM, SO THERE IS A, A VERY ACTIVE, UH, ROBUST BUS SYSTEM THAT SITS THROUGH HERE. 
          IT IS A AREA IN THE CITY THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO BE DEPENDENT ON AN AUTOMOBILE. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SEAN REALLY COVERED ALL OF THESE PIECES. 
          UH, THE ONE THING THAT I WILL STATE IS AS, AS THEY MENTIONED AND, AND WE'VE MENTIONED BOTH PREVIOUSLY AND NOW, THERE IS AN APPROVED SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          THERE WERE A LOT OF ITEMS WORKED THROUGH WITH THAT, THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO CARRY FORWARD. 
          WE DO NOT INTEND TO START WITH A NEW SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HE SAID WILL MAINTAIN IN PLACE. 
          WE WILL DO A CORRECTION TO THE EXISTING SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT SO THAT WE ARE, UM, ALL OF THOSE MITIGATION ITEMS, THE WETLAND ITEMS, UM, WILL ALL STAY IN PLACE AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS ZONING PROCESS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          NOT NECESSARILY THAT Y'ALL CARE, UM, NOT THAT YOU DON'T CARE, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS GOING ALONG WITH THIS. 
          SO WE HAVE THE P THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          THERE IS ALSO A CODE AMENDMENT THAT WAS INITIATED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT WILL PULL THIS PROPERTY OUTSIDE OUT OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. 
          UM, YOU CAN'T HAVE A PUD IN THE ERC. 
          THE REGULATIONS JUST DON'T MA MAP MIX. 
          SO THAT IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THIS. 
          THAT WAS INITIATED BY CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY. 
          AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. 
          THERE IS ALSO A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WILL CHANGE THE DESIGNATION TO, UH, MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. 
          SO THOSE ARE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE, BUT THEY, WHEN YOU SEE IF YOU'RE CHECKING THIS PROJECT OUT LATER AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHY ARE THERE THREE AGENDA ITEMS, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          THE SEAN COVERED 
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THE MAJORITY OF THESE ITEMS VERY WELL. 
          AGAIN, A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT TODAY THAT'S 222 UNITS. 
          WE WILL, UH, PROPOSE 381 OF THAT 15 WILL BE ONSITE AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, TOTALING A LITTLE OVER 8,500 SQUARE FEET. 
          I HAVE WORKED ON A LOT OF POS IN A LOT OF PLACES. 
          THIS IS THE, UM, FIRST PUT THAT I KNOW OF THAT'S BEEN APPROVED IN RECENT HISTORY. 
          THAT'S NOT A MASSIVE MULTI THOUSAND ACRE PUD THAT WILL HAVE ANY ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UM, ALMOST ALL OTHER PUDS PAY A COMPLETE FEE IN LIEU. 
          THIS WILL HAVE THE, UM, 15 UNITS ONSITE AND A EXPONENTIALLY LARGER FEE IN LIEU, UH, ALL OF OUR PARKING. 
          A COUPLE THINGS WE DIDN'T MENTION. 
          ALL OF OUR PARKING IS STRUCTURED WITHIN THE PROJECT. 
          IT IS, UH, THERE IS ENVIRONMENTAL OR EV PARKING THAT WILL GO IN ON DAY ONE. 
          THERE WILL BE WIRED FOR MORE OF THAT, UM, PARKING. 
          IF YOU WERE TO PARK THIS PROJECT TODAY, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE SOME 600 AND OVER 620 PARKING SPACES. 
          WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT. 
          WE'RE PARKING AT A 1.25 RATIO FOR ALL UNIT TYPES. 
          I REALLY HOPING THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITHOUT A CAR AS, AS THE WORLD CONTINUES TO EVOLVE IN THIS AREA. 
          AGAIN, THE 1.17 ACRES HAS BEEN DEDICATED AS PARKLAND ALREADY. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          OH, AND A LOT OF BICYCLE PARKING. 
          THAT'S ONE THING THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY END UP IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES, BUT THIS IS A PLACE THAT YOU WILL, UM, LIKELY BE ABLE TO, TO SUFFICE WITH THE BICYCLE IS, IS YOUR MAIN POINT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          SO, UM, REALLY INCREASING THAT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          I WANNA GET JUST THROUGH TWO MORE AND THEN I'LL LET Y'ALL, UM, OH, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE? I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE. 
          THAT ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THIS A PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. 
          SO THE GREEN AREA ON THIS PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE IS WHERE ALL OF THE PARKLAND IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY. 
          WE HAVE WORKED WITH PARK STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THEY, THIS WAS DEDICATED WITH THE ORIGINAL SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          THEY ARE STILL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HOW THIS LAYS OUT ON THE PROPERTY, WHERE THE ACCESS IS, HOW, UM, SIGNAGE ET CETERA WILL BE HANDLED HERE. 
          THE YELLOW AREA THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS, THAT'S REALLY WHERE ONE OF OUR, UH, LARGER CHANGES FROM THE EXISTING SITE PLAN TO TODAY IS, IS THAT WILL BE AN ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN AREA. 
          RIGHT NOW, TODAY, IF YOU WALK BY THIS, THERE IS A LOT OF OVERHEAD POWER LINES. 
          THERE'S A KIND OF A FUNKY WALKING AREA. 
          THIS WILL ALL, THIS WILL LET THE BUILDING SET BACK. 
          IT WILL ENHANCE THAT PEDESTRIAN AREA ALONG RIVERSIDE. 
          AND THEN THE PURPLE, UM, THAT IS TO THE RIGHT IS WHERE THE FIRE LANE IS. 
          YOU, I I POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE WHILE IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S A CURB CUT ON RIVERSIDE, THERE IS NOT A CURB CURB CUT ON RIVERSIDE. 
          THAT IS KNOXX BOX AND BO AND BALLARD IT FOR EMERGENCIES ONLY. 
          UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY ALL THE POWERS THAT BE . 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY, SO THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED BETWEEN WHAT YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          SO WITH REGARD TO CODE MODIFICATIONS, THERE, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT CHANGED. 
          UM, AS STEPH SAID, WE ARE ASKING FOR A MODIFICATION TO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE PRIMARY SETBACK. 
          WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CAME TO YOU, WE WERE ASKING FOR AN IMPERVIOUS COVER OF, UM, A MAXIMUM OF 65%. 
          THE SITE PLAN THAT EXISTS TODAY HAS A PERVIOUS FIRE LANE, UM, THAT A LOT WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE BUILT AS IT IS PERMITTED. 
          UM, SO WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT REEVALUATING THAT FIRE LANE TO MAKE IT A A TRUE FIRE LANE AND ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THAT. 
          WE ARE ALREADY TREATING ALL OF THE IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          THERE'S NO, WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR EVERY PIECE OF THAT. 
          IF ANYONE NOTICED, WHY DID YOUR PERCENTAGE CHANGE? THAT IS WHY IT IS JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT FIRE LANE CHANGING. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER PIECE IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE, AND I'LL, I'LL SHOW A PICTURE OF THIS THAT SHOWS IT BETTER. 
          BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERMISSION TO REMOVE THE TWO HERITAGE TREES THAT ARE ALONG RIVERSIDE. 
          ONE OF THOSE HAD ALREADY BEEN, UM, CATEGORIZED AS DDI THE SECOND ONE AFTER A RECENT VISIT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED TO BE DDI. 
          SO WHILE WE STILL ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THOSE TREES HAVE, UM, I CALL 'EM THE TREE SONOGRAMS, THE TOMMIES, THEY ARE VERY, UM, THEY, THEY ARE NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. 
          THEY'RE COVERED WITH ALL THE BAD THINGS, ALL THE, ON THE, ON THE ROOTS THAT, THERE YOU GO. 
          UM, SO THEY, BUT WE STILL ARE PROPOSING TO MITIGATE AS WE, UM, HAD MENTIONED, WHICH WAS AT THE SUGGESTION OF THIS COMMISSION TO REALLY INCREASE THE MITIGATION ON THAT TREE. 
          SO IT WENT FROM ONE 50, UM, TO 400% MITIGATION IS WHERE WE WERE AT FOR THAT. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND THEN WITH THE SUPERIORITY ITEMS, THIS JUST PROVIDES A LITTLE, UM, BIT OF CLARIFICATION ON RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM YOU ALL AND FROM STAFF. 
          SO WE HADN'T MADE THE COMMITMENT TO COLLECT THE AC CONDENSATE, BUT THERE WAS NO DECISION ON WHAT THAT WOULD DO. 
          AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THE STUDIES AND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO IRRIGATE ALL OF OUR, UM, GROUND FLOOR. 
          UH, SO THAT IS WHAT WILL BE, UH, IRRIGATED THERE. 
          THAT IS CONFIRMED IN THE POD. 
          UH, I DID GET A QUESTION ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 
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LANGUAGE OF FUNCTIONAL GREEN. 
          UM, WE, THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AS FUNCTIONAL GREEN WAS NEVER PASSED. 
          SO THE ELEMENTS THAT WE WERE, UH, THAT WE WERE CONTEMPLATING ARE STILL IN THERE. 
          THEY JUST NO LONGER THE WORD FUNCTIONAL GREEN HAS BEEN REMOVED. 
          AND THEN AS SEAN TALKED ABOUT THE JELLYFISH, WE HAD COMMITTED TO THE TREATMENT OF THAT AREA AS A SUPERIORITY ITEM. 
          UM, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE HOW WE WOULD DO IT AND THAT IT WOULD BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, BUT IT WOULD TREAT THAT AREA THAT CURRENTLY RUNS INTO THE LAKE. 
          AND THEN WE DID, UM, AT THE SUGGESTION OF STAFF MAKE SOME CHANGES TO AND CLARIFICATIONS TO THE TYPES OF SPECIES THAT ARE THERE. 
          I'M GONNA DO, CAN YOU GO FORWARD TWO FOR ME? THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS JUST HELPS ME FROM A TREE PERSPECTIVE. 
          IT'S THE, IT'S THE CLEANEST VERSION. 
          SO THE TREE THAT'S FURTHEST TO THE NORTH, THAT IS THE TREE THAT'S STAYING THERE TODAY. 
          THE TREE THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, UM, THAT, THAT IS THE TREE THAT WILL BE RELOCATED, UM, INTO THE PARKLAND. 
          SO ON SITE, NOT NEVER LEAVING THE SITE. 
          UH, AND THEN THE TWO YELLOW TREES THAT ARE CLOSEST TO RIVERSIDE ARE THE TWO THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, DEEMED TO BE DDI. 
          SO YES, WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE. 
          WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE PUD, BUT THEY, UM, ARE NOT IN A CONDITION. 
          AND THEN THE TREE, UH, THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE IS, UM, STILL NOT IN GREAT CONDITION, BUT THAT IS THE ONE THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE WAS APPROVED WITH THE EXISTING SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          I HAVE A LOT MORE SLIDES THAT TALK ABOUT REALLY EVERYTHING THAT SEAN DID, SO I'M NOT GONNA RUN THROUGH THEM IN PAINSTAKING DETAIL FOR YOU ALL. 
          BUT I DO HAVE, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE, THE ARCHITECT, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, THE ENGINEER. 
          I HOPE WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN, REALLY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. 
          NICOLE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CHAIR? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PAUSE REALLY FAST. 
          I JUST WANNA CHECK AGAIN WITH CHEER BRISTOL TO SEE IF HER MIC IS WORKING OKAY. 
          STILL NOT. 
          UM, LIZ, I'M WONDERING ABOUT TAKING A FIVE TO 10 MINUTE RECESS TO WORK OUT THE AUDIO. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT MAKES, MAKES SENSE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WITH THAT, THE TIME IS 6 38. 
          WE ARE GOING TO RECESS UNTIL 6 48 TO WORK OUT OUR AUDIO AND TECH ISSUES. 
          THANKS FOR HOLDING TIGHT, Y'ALL. 
          THE ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED. 
          THANKS FOR BEARING WITH US. 
          SO WE HAVE THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          SO NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND I WILL START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER MORE. 
          PARDON ME? CHAIR? YES. 
          OH, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? OH, DO WE DO THAT BEFORE? I THOUGHT WE DO THAT AFTER QUESTION OF THE DELIBERATION. 
          I THOUGHT, OKAY. 
          , WE CAN, WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE PROCEDURE. 
          UM, USUALLY I BELIEVE WE DO QUESTIONS SO WE CAN TALK TO THE APPLICANT. 
          'CAUSE ONCE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT KIND OF PRECLUDES US FROM DOING THAT. 
          COOL. 
          THANK YOU THOUGH. 
          PLEASE ALWAYS SPEAK UP. 
          LET ME KNOW ABOUT PROCEDURE. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER MUTA OR THANK YOU. 
          I THINK I'M, I JUST, I JUST HAVE ONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER BETTER IF THE CITY OR YOU, BUT WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF SURVIVAL OF RELOCATED TREES? WHAT IS THE, DO WE KNOW? SO WE KNOW, I, I KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND I KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW. 
          RIGHT? AND I'VE GOT FOLKS HERE. 
          SO CLIFF, IF I MESSED THIS UP, PLEASE TELL ME, OR CORRECT ME. 
          SO THE RELOCATION OF THIS TREE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ITEMS ON THIS RIGHT TREE. 
          TREE RELOCATION AND SURVIVAL RATE HAS INCREASED EXPONENTIALLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, IS AS THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO DO IT. 
          KEEPING THIS TREE ON SITE, UH, AGAIN, EXPONENTIALLY INCREASES ITS CHANCES OF SURVIVAL. 
          UH, WE HAVE TO START, AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          IT HAS 90 DAYS OF PREP, RIGHT? AND THEN IT TAKES 30 DAYS TO MOVE IT, THE 30 FEET THAT IT'S GONNA MOVE. 
          UM, IT NEVER GETS ON A TRUCK. 
          IT NEVER HAS ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A TREE CARE PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO DO BEFOREHAND, AFTER HAND PERCENTAGE OF SURVIVAL. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          I KNOW THAT OUR, WE ANTICIPATE IN DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE LIKE A FIVE YEAR TREE CARE PLAN THAT HAPPENS AFTER, UM, IT'S RELOCATED. 
          WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ALL OF THE KIND OF LIKE, HERE'S WHERE WE DO IT, HERE'S HOW WE DO IT. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, KEEPING IT ONSITE EXPONENTIALLY INCREASES ITS CHANCE OF SURVIVAL VERSUS TRYING TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION. 
          DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER, WE ALSO HAVE TAYLOR HORTON WITH THE CITY ARBORIST, UH, WHO CAN HELP ANSWER. 
          OH, YAY. 
          HI, UH, TAYLOR HORTON WITH, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          AND WE DO, I THINK THE, UM, TRANSPLANT WAS APPROVED WITH SITE PLAN. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND IN THAT PROCESS, THERE'S A, A, YOU KNOW, REAL EFFORT TO ANALYZE THE TREE. 
          HAVE A, UH, 
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CERTIFIED ARBORIST OR THE, USUALLY IT'S THE COMPANY THAT WILL BE MOVING THE TREE AND THEY, UM, THEY STUDY IT FIRST TO SEE IF IT'S A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR, FOR TRANSPLANTING. 
          NOT EVERY TREE IS, BUT THIS ONE WAS APPROVED FOR THAT. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WITH ANY TRANSPLANT, BUT WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD SUCCESS WITH THE ONES THAT WE VETTED AND APPROVED. 
          JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN IT GOES FROM LIKE A HUNDRED TO 400 MEDIATION? UH, LIKE PERCENT, 400% MITIGATION? LIKE, I THINK I SAW THAT IN HIS SLIDES. 
          YES. 
          WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? SURE. 
          IT'S, UM, IT'S BASED ON THE CALIPER INCH OF THE TREE, UHHUH . 
          SO, UM, STANDARD MITIGATION FOR A HERITAGE TREE IS 300 OR THREE TIMES WHAT THE INCHES. 
          UM, BUT THEN THIS TREE, I THINK THERE, THERE WAS A MITIGATION, LIKE A, A HIGHER, FOR A STANDARD HEALTHY TREE, IT'S AT 300. 
          THIS TREE WASN'T DEEMED TO ORIGINALLY BE HEALTHY, SO WE WERE ANTICIPATING 150% MITIGATION. 
          UM, AT THE RECOMMENDED OF THIS COMMISSION, WE WENT BACK TO FULL MITIGATION PLUS TO THE 400%. 
          SO IT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE LARGE SITES, IT'S A, IT'S A TREES THAT GO BACK INTO THE GROUND. 
          THE SITE ISN'T LARGE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE INCHES BACK IN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT IS A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT GOES INTO THE TREE CARE FUND THAT GOES TO THE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER BRIMER. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, VERY GOOD PRESENTATION BY THE CITY STAFF AS WELL AS YOURSELF, AMANDA. 
          UM, SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS MAY BE, MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED, I MAY HAVE MISSED THEM, BUT, UH, A, THE, UH, THE APARTMENTS, HOW MANY ARE GONNA BE ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM? DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THAT YET? UH, HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATES, UM, IT HASN'T BEEN FULLY DESIGNED, BUT IT'S LIKELY SOMEWHERE IN LIKE A 60 TO 70% ONE BEDROOM AND A 30 TO 40%. 
          I GET THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT. 
          UH, TWO, TWO PLUS BEDROOMS. SO LIKELY, UH, HEAVY ONE BEDROOM GIVEN ITS LOCATION. 
          THE REASON I ASKED WAS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE WHAT WE REALLY ARE MISSING IN THE CITY IS NOT SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, ONE BEDROOM AND STUDIO APARTMENTS. 
          WE'RE MISSING, YOU KNOW, MULTI BEDROOM UNITS FOR FAMILIES AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND IF I READ THE, THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION CORRECTLY, UH, THESE ARE GONNA BE FLOATER UNITS, SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE DEDICATED UNITS. 
          IS THAT THAT'S ACCURATE. 
          WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AT A MINIMUM THAT 86, 75, I THINK IS THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OF AFFORDABILITY AT ALL TIMES ON THE PROJECT. 
          BUT SPECIFIC UNITS ARE NOT DESIGNATED AS AFFORDABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT COULD BE THAT THERE W RANDOMLY SPEAKING, THERE COULD BE THREE OR FOUR, THREE BEDROOM UNITS AVAILABLE FOR, IT'S NOT LIKELY NOTABLE HOUSING, WITHSTANDING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          AND THEORETICALLY, BUT AT THIS PROJECT ISN'T LIKELY TO HAVE ANY THREE OR FOUR BEDROOM UNITS IN IT. 
          IT'S LIKELY TO BE MOSTLY ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS. UM, THE WAY THAT WE ANTICIPATE THIS IS THESE WILL MOSTLY BE ONE BEDROOMS, IS HOW IT'S DESIGNED. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE ONLY PROJECT PUD THAT I'M EVEN AWARE OF THAT HAS ANY ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND SO THAT WAS THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WERE, UM, PUT INTO PLACE AS WE GOT THE EXISTING SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PUT TOGETHER. 
          WE HAD THE ABILITY TO TAKE THOSE OUT AND DO ALL FEE IN LIE. 
          UM, BUT WE MAINTAINED THE COMMITMENT TO KEEP THE, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE BEING 15, BUT THE, THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF AFFORDABLE ONSITE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THESE ON SITE 'CAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AND MAKES IT AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK THERE AS OPPOSED TO BEING RELOCATED TO WHEREVER THAT IS. 
          UH, BUT OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          UH, THE, UH, PARKLAND, WHERE'S THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PARKLAND GOING TO BE? IS IT JUST GONNA BE, I IF I CAN YEAH, I CAN, I CAN PUT A PRESENTATION UP. 
          I CAN SHOW IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET MY PRESENTATION PUT BACK UP, I CAN SHOW YOU. 
          BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE ACCESS OFF OF RIVERSIDE IS, IS MANLOVE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC ROAD. 
          THE PARKLAND WILL COME ALL THE WAY UP TO MANLOVE AS PART OF THE PUD. 
          WE DO HAVE SIGNAGE FOR HOW A PEDESTRIAN WALKING ALONG RIVERSIDE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO AND ACCESS THAT PARKLAND AREA. 
          AND I ASSUME THERE'S GONNA BE SIGNAGE OR SOMETHING THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE, KNOW THAT THERE'S PARK THERE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY MOST OF THE PARK IS 
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GONNA BE ADJACENT TO THE LAKE AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE VISIBLE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IS THERE GONNA BE ANY, UH, PARKING AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA TO ACT, YOU KNOW, TO DRIVE UP AND, UH, PARK IS THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE VEHICLE PAR VEHICULAR PARKING. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OR FORWARD PROBABLY TWO OR THREE SLIDES TO THE ONE THAT HAS THE PURPLE, YELLOW, AND GREEN ON IT. 
          THE, WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT ONE'S PERFECT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER BRIER, THE GREEN AREA IS WHERE THE PARKLAND ACCESS COMES UP TO. 
          SO THAT IS THE TERMINUS OF THE SOUTHERN PIECE OF THE GREEN IS THE NORTHERN TERMINUS OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO THAT IS WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINTS WILL BE. 
          UM, SO YOU WOULD LIKELY COME FROM THE YELLOW AREA, WHICH IS OUR ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN AREA TO THE GREEN. 
          UM, AND WE DO HAVE, AS A REQUIREMENT OF OUR PUT THAT ALTHOUGH THAT IS A CROSSING FOR VEHICLES TO GO INTO THE GARAGE, THAT THERE ARE ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ACROSS THERE. 
          SO THERE'S CHANGING IN, UM, PAVEMENT TYPE, ALL OF THAT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT A PEDESTRIAN KNOWS THAT THEY'RE CROSSING, UH, AN AREA THAT A VEHICLE IS ALSO IN. 
          AND THEN YOU ASKED ME ABOUT PARKING. 
          UM, NO, THERE'S NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE VEHICULAR PARKING FOR RESIDENTS, BUT THERE IS BICYCLE PARKING THAT WILL BE THERE AND, BUT THERE IS AMPLE PARKING ABOUT A QUARTER, LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY. 
          THAT STARTS WHERE, UM, THE LINE IS WHERE SOUTH SHORE CONNECTS, WHERE THERE IS ON STREET VEHICLE VEHICULAR PARKING. 
          UH, THAT'S PUBLIC PARKING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NOW I BELIEVE IN THE LAST MEETING BACK IN SEPTEMBER INDICATED THERE'S, UH, TRAILS ALONG THE LAKE AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, A BOARDWALK YES, SIR. 
          OR SOMETHING THAT, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE MAINTAINED AND ALL THAT OTHER SORT OF STUFF. 
          STUFF YES, SIR. 
          THAT IS OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE CITY AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO, TO BE IN ITS EXISTING LOCATION. 
          NOW, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, THE ENHANCEMENT YOU WERE DISCUSSING PUTTING, THERE WAS GONNA BE A DOG PARK. 
          WILL THERE BE ANY, ARE YOU, FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU GONNA BE CONTINUING MAINTAINING THE, THE IDEA OF HAVING A DOG PARK THERE? YES, SIR. 
          THAT REALLY SITS ON THE FAR WESTERN SIDE OF WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE. 
          UM, SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THERE WILL STILL BE A DOG PARK IN THE AREA AS WELL AS AN OVERLOOKING AREA. 
          AND THEN AS YOU CONTINUE FURTHER NORTH, THAT AREA WILL BE, UM, MORE OF THE NATIVE, THE RESTORED WETLANDS, ALL OF THAT WITHIN THE PARKLAND. 
          IS THIS AN ON LEASH OR OFF LEASH PARK? I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THE ON OFF THIS MAY, THIS MAY DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE OR NOT. 
          AH, BECAUSE, UH, IT'S KIND OF A CONTR, IT'S FENCE, IT'S FENCED. 
          SO ONCE YOU GO IN, YOU CAN GO OFF OF A LEASH INSIDE OF A FENCED AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL  TOPIC IN THE CITY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND WILL YOU BE PUTTING ANY OTHER, UM, IMPROVEMENTS IN THE, IN THE PARK? SO THERE'S THE DOG PARK AND THEN THERE'LL BE AN OVERLOOK AREA. 
          THIS HAS A REALLY PRETTY VIEW THAT GOES BACK TOWARDS DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, BUT THEN AS YOU CONTINUE TO PROGRESS NORTHERN, THAT WILL END UP BEING MORE NATIVE PARKLAND AREA THAT WON'T HAVE IMPROVEMENTS IN IT. 
          UH, SUCH AS, SO THAT'S WHERE THE TREE WILL BE RELOCATED TO. 
          THERE'S, UM, SIGNIFICANT SLOPE THAT STARTS HAPPENING BACK IN THERE. 
          THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENTS ACTUALLY GO. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE SEEP, THE RIM ROCK, THE WETLANDS ARE WHERE WE'LL BE, UH, RESTORING AND PROTECTING THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY, UH, I'M JUST THROWING THESE OUT AS EXAMPLES. 
          SO DON'T PUT TOO MUCH WEIGHT ON ANY ONE ITEM. 
          SURE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, SWING SETS OR, UH, YOU KNOW, BENCHES OR PICNIC TABLES OR AS YOU PROGRESS NORTHERN NO. 
          INTO THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, YOU WOULDN'T WANT THOSE, UM, AREAS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT ANY CLOSER BACK TO ON OUR SIDE, THERE WILL BE AMENITIES AROUND THE DOG PARK. 
          THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WALK AREAS, ET CETERA. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ONE OF THE PHRASES I SAW IN THERE SAYS, UH, AUSTIN BIODIVERSITY THROUGH INNOVATIVE NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPING, WHAT DOES THE WORD INNOVATIVE MEAN? I CAN GIVE YOU THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION. 
          . 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT, UH, WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY PLANTING SOMETHING? I, I'M GONNA LET OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
           AS FAR AS, SO WE WORKED, OH, I'M GONNA HAVE TO MOVE. 
          THEY STRAP IT DOWN. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME'S CLIFFORD SAFER. 
          I'M WITH KW LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. 
          UM, AND WHAT WE MEAN BY INNOVATIVE IS JUST TAKING WHAT THE CODE IS REQUESTING AND REALLY AMPLIFYING IT. 
          SO THE CODE ALREADY, UM, HAS A HEAVY AMOUNT OF INFLUENCE ON USING NATIVE AND ADAPTIVE PLANTS FROM THE EDWARD EDWARDS AQUIFER PLATEAU, UM, BLACKLAND 
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PRAIRIE MIX, BUT IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          UM, AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DO, YOU KNOW, PLANT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE, UH, PLANT SPECIES. 
          EVERY BIT IS IN, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S PREFERRED PLANT LIST OR GROW GREEN GUIDE. 
          AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE, UM, IS DIRECTLY ON THE PREFERRED PLANT LIST. 
          UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE'RE FOCUSING ON A LOT OF POLLINATOR FRIENDLY, UM, PLANTS AS WELL, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, BIODIVERSITY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE GONNA BE PUTTING UP, UH, ON THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING, GREENERY PLANTING STUFF UP THERE, AND YOU, AT THE TIME YOU COULDN'T COMMIT TO GREEN WALLS. 
          THAT THAT IS STILL THE CASE. 
          SO WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE GREENERY ON THE ROOF, BUT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE GREENERY ALONG THE WALLS OF THE PROJECT. 
          UH, ANY PARTICULAR REASON. 
          IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WORKS WITH THE, WITH THE PROJECT AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BUS STOPS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE. 
          YES SIR. 
          SO ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT IS NOT A PROBLEM. 
          UH, FLOODPLAIN, YOU'RE IN THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, BUT THE PROJECT, THE BUILDING IS NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE, UH, PROPERTY SIR, TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT EXIT ROUTES AND ALL THAT OTHER SORT OF STUFF? YES, SIR. 
          WELL, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE EVER BEING AN ISSUE 'CAUSE THERE'S OVER 40 FEET OF, UH, HEIGHT BETWEEN THE LAKE OF THE, THE LEVEL OF THE LAKE AND THE BLUFF. 
          UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE PUTTING TOGETHER AN EMERGENCY EGRESS PLAN IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WERE TO BE A CATASTROPHIC FLOOD AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I SAW THAT YOU WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO TRAFFIC STUDIES, THAT'S ACCURATE, BUT YOU ARE GONNA BE DUMPING, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR OR 500 PEOPLE ON THE ROAD EVERY DAY OR CLOSE TO THAT. 
          UH, HAS ANYONE DONE AN ANALYSIS, HAS THE CITY DONE AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT? SO AT THE TIME OF SITE, UH, PLAN REVISION, WE WILL BE SUBJECT TO STREET IMPACT FEES. 
          WE HAVE COORDINATED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS PROJECT CONNECT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING HERE MEETS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE HERE. 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC PATTERNS WILL BE LOOKED AT AGAIN, AT THE TIME OF SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, BUT WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH EXTENSIVELY  WITH EVERYBODY, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, THAT YOU WOULD USUALLY HANDLE AT THIS TIME HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS IS STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL, SIR. 
          YOU DON'T PLAN ON ON HAVING ANY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IN THE NO, SIR. 
          COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          AND YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE, UH, ACROSS RIVERSIDE IN THE YES, SIR. 
          WE HAVE HAD A MEETING WITH THE CONTACT TEAM AND WE HAVE A, A CITY FACILITATED A MEETING THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR THE 27TH, I BELIEVE OF APRIL, THE LAST WEEK OF APRIL TO REENGAGE. 
          BUT WE HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS. 
          AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE NATURE OF THE AREA, I MEAN THE CURRENT ZONING CALLS FOR 60 FOOT BUILDINGS IT CALLS FOR, THAT'S THE BASE HEIGHT AND YOU CAN BONUS UP FROM, THERE'RE UNDER EXISTING, IT SEEMS TO BE TRENDING TO 180. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT ENTIRE AREA IS GOING? YES, SIR. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED, UH, AND REZONED TO THAT 180 ALONG THAT NORTH SIDE OF RIVERSIDE, UH, WITHIN THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN. 
          OKAY, SO, UM, WHEN YOU'RE DOWN ON THE BOARDWALK, UM, AND I'LL ADMIT I WAS THERE, UH, EARLIER TODAY, BUT IT WAS ON GOOGLE EARTH PRO, NOT IN PERSON . 
          UH, BUT I HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE MANY TIMES AND IT'S, YOU, YOU CAN'T SEE ANY BUILDINGS AS YOU GO ALONG THE BOARDWALK BECAUSE OF ALL THE TREES THAT ARE THERE. 
          SO WOULD WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO THERE, WILL THOSE, ANY OF THOSE TREES BE REMOVED OR WILL IT STILL BE LIKE A WALL OF TREES ALONG THE BOARDWALK ON THE, THAT YOU PASS BY ON THE, OUR INTENT IS NOT TO REMOVE THOSE TREES. 
          SO IN THAT AREA THOSE WILL STILL BE, YOU WILL, YOU WILL GO DOWN THE BOARDWALK AND STILL SEE THE 40 FOOT BLUFF THAT WILL STAY IN ITS NATIVE CONDITION. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAD. 
          COMMISSIONER FIERRO, 
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I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER MORRISON. 
          UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE THOUGHTFUL, UM, MITIGATIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PROPOSED. 
          THE, MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IS SIMILARLY ABOUT PARKLAND AND ACCESS, WILL THERE BE ACCESS FROM THE TRAIL? NO, THERE, SO JUST FROM THE STREET. 
          THAT'S ACCURATE. 
          SO IF, CAN YOU GO TO AN AERIAL FOR ME PLEASE? THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          IT'S, IT'S WHEN YOU CAN'T CLICK. 
          SO THERE, AS I SAID, THE, THERE'S OVER 40 FEET OF FALL YEAH. 
          FROM THE PROJECT DOWN, SO YOU COULD NEVER SAFELY GET SOMEBODY THERE AT WHERE THE BOARDWALK IS. 
          AT THIS POINT, IT IS ON THE LAKE BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE CEFS THAT ARE THERE. 
          BUT IF YOU COME FROM THE EDGE OF OUR PROPERTY AND GO WEST, IT'S LESS THAN A 10TH OF A MILE TO AN 80, A ACCESSIBLE ACCESS POINT THAT TAKES YOU DOWN TO THE TRAIL. 
          THE ONE AT 35 THAT YES MA'AM. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL ACCESS, UM, OR YOU CAN GO ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE TO THE EAST AND ACCESS, UM, THROUGH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND IT'S THE, THE PARKLAND IS PUBLIC, NOT JUST FOR RESIDENTIAL? YES, MA'AM. 
          USE. 
          COOL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER LUKI. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS, UH, ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, HOW, HOW ARE PEOPLE GONNA KNOW THAT THERE'S A PARK THERE WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE SIGNAGE THAT INDICATES THAT THERE'S, UM, PUBLIC PARKLAND? IS THERE GONNA BE ANY KIND OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH TO LET PEOPLE ABOUT? IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN ONE OF THE HIGHER, UM, TOPICS OF CONVERSATION WITH THE INTERESTED PARTIES IN THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN MAKING SURE THAT PARKLAND DOLLARS AND PARKLAND STAYS IN THE, IN THE VICINITY OF THE CONTACT TEAM VERSUS GOING OUT. 
          SO, UM, 100% WE'VE LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S ONSITE PARKLAND THAT WILL BE THERE AND WE'VE COMMITTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ADDITIONAL PARKLAND DOLLARS, UM, TO WORK WITH THEM WHERE WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT THEY STAY WITHIN THE CONTACT TEAM AREA. 
          BRILLIANT. 
          UM, AND ONE CURIOSITY, WHAT IS A JELLYFISH FILTER? OKAY, I'M GONNA DO MY BEST, SAM, TELL ME IF I REALLY MESS IT UP. 
          UM, SO IT, IT ESSENTIALLY IS A FILTER THAT GOES WITHIN INTO THE MANHOLE AND IT TAKES ALL OF THE MATERIALS AND THE SUSPENDED SOLIDS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE JUST GO STRAIGHT THROUGH AND GO INTO THE LAKE AND IT CAPTURES THEM AND FILTERS THEM. 
          AND THEN YOU COME IN AND YOU CLEAN 'EM OUT. 
          AM I RIGHT? ISH? CLOSE, CLOSE. 
          DO YOU WANNA COME TELL THE REAL REASON OR IS THAT, ARE, ARE THERE ANY JELLYFISH INVOLVED WITH IT?  OKAY. 
          I I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT, PLEASE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          LIZ JOHNSTON, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. 
          SO THESE ARE, UM, CONSIDERED INNOVATIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ADOPTED BY OUR CRITERIA MANUAL, AND WE DON'T, THEY DO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THEY DO NOT MEET OUR POLLUTANT REMOVAL REQUIREMENTS FOR STANDARD PONDS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY MEETING ITS WATER QUALITY TREATMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OF THE PROPOSED IMPERVIOUS COVER AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A BETTERMENT. 
          SO WE, UM, AND THEY'RE MAINTAINING IT, NOT US, WHICH IS ANOTHER ISSUE. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE ALLOWED IT BECAUSE THEY, THEY DO HAVE LIMITED SPACE TO TREAT THIS SECTION OF UNTREATED IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING. 
          IT DOES OKAY WITH TSS, UH, ZINC AND LEAD, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER POLLUTANTS IT DOESN'T REMOVE, BUT IT IS BETTER THAN NOTHING. 
          SO. 
          BRILLIANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER FLURRY. 
          UM, I THINK MY QUESTIONS MIGHT BE MORE FOR CITY STAFF. 
          UH, SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW. 
          THE OVERRIDING PLAN FOR THE, THIS RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. 
          YOU KNOW, I HEAR AUSTIN, UH, IMAGINE CORRIDOR EAST RIVERSIDE. 
          UM, THIS PUTT IS ITS OVERRIDING PLAN, BUT IS THERE, WHAT'S THE LARGER OVERRIDING STRATEGIC PLAN GUIDING DEVELOPMENT ON RIVERSIDE? IS THERE ONE? YEAH, SO OUR CASE MANAGER, JONATHAN TOMKO, WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS HERE. 
          HE MAY BE BEST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          HE'S ONLINE. 
          YES, I'M HERE. 
          JONATHAN TOMKO WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THERE WAS A PLAN DEVELOPED THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN FOR THIS AREA. 
          AND THE REASON WHY STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT REZONING OF THIS CASE IS THAT, UH, UNDER THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, REZONING, UH, WE CAN GET SUPERIORITY. 
          THERE'S SEVERAL ASPECTS OF THIS CASE THAT, UH, ARE SUPERIOR. 
          I THINK SOME OF THOSE ARE, UH, THROUGH PARKS AND THROUGH SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. 
          BUT ONE OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE WOULD HIGHLIGHT IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THE FEE IN LIEU UNDER THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN IS A LOT LESS THAN WHAT IS, UH, ACHIEVED UNDER A PUD. 
          UM, SO UNDER THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN, UH, THIS SITE WAS, UH, CATEGORIZED AS CORRIDOR MIXED USE AND IT HAD A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 60 FEET WITH, UH, A DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE 
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OF 120 FEET. 
          UM, WITH THIS REQUEST, THE BASE WOULD BE 60 FEET WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 180 FEET. 
          AND BECAUSE THE SITE IS, UH, APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER MILE FROM THE, A PROPOSED PROJECT CONNECT RAIL STOP AT EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND SOUTH LAKESHORE BOULEVARD, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREATER DENSITY, UH, TO SUPPORT TRANSIT AS WELL AS, UH, GREATER ONSITE AND V IN LIE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, APPROXIMATE TO THE TRANSIT. 
          AND I, I GUESS NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THEIR OWN PODS OR, UM, UH, PUDS THAT HAVE LARGER, LARGER ACRES THAN JUST A COUPLE ACRES? WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL CASES WITHIN THIS CORRIDOR SEEKING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN. 
          THIS IS NOT UNIQUE IN TERMS OF THAT. 
          UM, THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN WAS ADOPTED MANY YEARS AGO. 
          UM, THAT REGULATING PLAN, LEMME SEE THE LAST TIME IT WAS ADOPTED OR LAST TIME IT WAS UPDATED. 
          IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2013 AND IT'S BEEN AMENDED IT LOOKS LIKE CLOSE TO 20 TIMES SINCE THEN. 
          SO IT'S, EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT DID IN 2013. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS MORE CONCRETE PLANS AROUND TRANSIT AS THERE ARE TODAY WITH PROJECT CONNECT. 
          UM, AND THE LOCATIONS OF THOSE STATIONS WERE ALSO NOT CLEARLY WELL KNOWN AT THAT TIME, UM, AS THEY ARE TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SOME OF THE ENTITLEMENTS AND FEES AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THE PLAN, UH, ARE DATED, UH, IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY WITH REGARD TO TRANSIT AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE AREA. 
          THANKS FOR THAT. 
          I, I WAS, UH, JUST ON THE WEBSITE TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS A, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS GEO DATA OR GEO APP, BUT A, THE BEST, A WEB MAP VIEWER TO KIND OF SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WOULD LOOK LIKE 20 AMENDMENTS, 20 ADJUSTMENTS TO PUD, BUT JUST HOW WE COULD SEE, JUST AS YOU LAID OUT THE, THE CHANGE OVER TIME. 
          UH, UH, THE SUBDISTRICTS WITHIN THE PLAN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF REZONINGS, I WOULD COUNT AT LEAST 12, MAYBE CLOSE TO 20, WHERE PEOPLE ARE CHANGING WITHIN THE SUB-DISTRICTS TO MORE INTENSE SUB-DISTRICTS WITHIN THE PLAN OVER THE LAST, I'D SAY TWO OR THREE YEARS. 
          UM, BUT THEN THERE'S SOME WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE HIGHEST INTENSITY SUBDISTRICT AND LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD BE A MAXIMUM, UH, HEIGHT WITH A DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE OF 120 FEET. 
          UH, WHICH MAY BE SHY OF WHAT'S TRANS, WHAT'S CONSIDERED TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE FOR A FIXED RAIL LINE. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE SEEKING TO, TO LEAVE THE PUD UH, AND, AND, UH, I'M SORRY, LEAVES THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN AND SEEK ALTERNATIVE ZONING. 
          AND SOMETIMES THAT INCLUDES A P LIKE IN THIS CASE, SO THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ACTIVE MAP VIEWER TO SEE HOW MANY PLATE, UM, PROPERTIES HAVE LEFT THE EAST RIVERSIDE. 
          THE, THE PLAN, SO IF YOU WENT TO THE PROPERTY PROFILE MAP, UM, YOU COULD SEARCH FOR RECENT CASES AND I GUESS YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH CASE. 
          UM, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, SOUTH SHORE AND RIVERSIDE THAT'S GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND JUST WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT'S GOING TO COUNCIL. 
          SO I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OR TWO WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY AND THEN SEVERAL OTHERS FURTHER DOWN RIVERSIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK I PICKED UP THE PROPERTY PROFILE APP MIGHT BE THE BEST ONE TO KIND OF PERUSE AND SEE THESE, THESE CHANGES. 
          COOL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THE LAYER YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR IS YOU GO INTO REVIEW CASES AND YOU COULD GO TO, UH, ALL ZONING REVIEW CASES OR ZONING REVIEW CASES WITH ALL IN SES AND THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO CLICK ON INDIVIDUAL CASES. 
          UM, YOU COULD ALSO TURN ON THE ZONING LAYER, UH, ON TOP OF THAT AND YOU COULD SEE IF THEY'VE BEEN FULLY REZONED, UH, TO, TO SAY PUT OR SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR THAT WOULD SHOW UP. 
          WELL GREAT. 
          THANK, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RESOURCE, UH, TO LEARN ABOUT. 
          UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO, I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT I WANTED TO UPDATE KIND OF THE TIMELINE FOR THIS CASE. 
          SO IT DID GO TO SMALL AREA JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION AND WAS UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT MEETING ON THIS CASE ON APRIL 27TH AS THE APPLICANT RECOMMENDED OR, UH, MENTIONED, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, THERE IS ALUM CHANGE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE FROM THE SPECIFIC REGULATING DISTRICT TO MULTIFAMILY. 
          AND THEN AFTER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT MEETING, IT WOULD GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON MAY 12TH AND, UH, POTENTIALLY COUNSEL ON MAY 21ST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK ALL MY OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHANG. 
          OH NO. 
          WHOA. 
          OKAY. 
          NEW MICS. 
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UM, THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          UM, MY FIRST IS, WHAT IS THE CURRENT IMPERVIOUS COVER OF THAT SITE? I KNOW THAT IT USED TO BE A LITTLE LIKE THAT BUSINESS SCHOOL AND NOW IT'S JUST EMPTY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF GREEN. 
          THERE IS A FAIR, I, I DON'T KNOW AN EXACT NUMBER. 
          UHHUH , BUT THERE IS STILL A PARKING LOT AND A BUILDING PAD YES. 
          ET CETERA ON THE SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY, MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE ACCESS TO THE PARK. 
          SO, UM, ANECDOTALLY THAT INTERSECTION SLASH THE ENTRY POINT TO BERKSHIRE RIVERSIDE, YOUR GUYS' NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR CLOSER TO I 35 MM-HMM . 
          UM, THAT INTERSECTION GETS SUPER CRAZY AND UM, MANLOVE IS LIKE A SUPER SMALL STREET THAT BASICALLY ONLY LIKE EXISTS TO ENTER BERKSHIRE RIVERSIDES LIKE GARAGE. 
          UM, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED. 
          SO RIGHT NOW IS THE PLAN FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE WALKING ALONG THE SIDEWALK AND THEN GO INTO THE MANLOVE STREET, WHICH WILL THEN ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR PARKING LOT. 
          THEY'LL BE ON OUR, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, A MANLOVE SITS THERE AND IT IS, IT BASICALLY SERVES AS A DRIVEWAY FOR THE TWO PROPERTIES, UHHUH, BECAUSE IT, IT CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE, . 
          UM, AND AS IT SITS TODAY, EVERYONE JUST COMES IN AND GOES TO THE LEFT. 
          WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE, ON OUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS WHERE THERE WILL BE A SAFE PEDESTRIAN PATH TO GET THROUGH. 
          SO WHILE THERE'S, THERE'S SOME IMPROVE, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH HOW, HOW A PEDESTRIAN GOES ON, ON THEIR SIDE OF THE SITE, BUT ON OURS YOU WILL BE ABLE, IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN RIVERSIDE AND YOU CROSS MANLOVE IN EITHER DIRECTION ON THE EAST SIDE OF MANLOVE, THERE WILL BE A SAFE PEDESTRIAN PATH TO GET TO THE PARKLAND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN, UM, MY OTHER QUESTION IS, SO IF THEY WERE SORRY, I LIKE LOVE THE TRAIL, SO IT'S LIKE MY, THE BACK OF MY HAND. 
          UM, BUT SO IF YOU WERE TO GO THE OTHER WAY THEN RATHER THAN TOWARDS, UM, I 35, YOU'RE GOING AWAY FROM IT. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          UM, HOW WOULD YOU ACCESS THE PARKLAND THERE? SO SAY YOU WERE TO PARK ON EAST RIVERSIDE NEAR, YOU KNOW, THE ORACLE COMPLEX AND ALL OF THOSE APARTMENTS AND STUFF, UM, BECAUSE THE TRAIL BECOMES THE BOARDWALK THERE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S NO ACCESS AT THAT POINT TO THE LAND UNLESS YOU'RE COMING FROM THAT LITTLE CORNER NEXT TO BERKSHIRE RIVERSIDE. 
          UM, SO HOW WOULD YOU ACCESS IT COMING FROM THE OTHER WAY OR WOULD THE ONLY POINT OF ACCESS BE OFF OF MANLOVE? SO THE, THE ACCESS, THE ACCESSIBLE PORTIONS OF THE PARKLAND WOULD BE FROM RIVERSIDE AND MANLOVE. 
          SO IT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, NOT FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          CAN I, CAN YOU THROW ME A MAP BACK UP THERE? SO IF, SO, IF YOU WERE COMING FROM EAST OR WEST, RIGHT? UHHUH,  ALONG RIVERSIDE. 
          EITHER, EITHER WAY, ONCE YOU GET TO OUR PROPERTY, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO THE PARKLAND, BUT BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHY CHANGES, IF YOU WERE ON THE BOARDWALK ET CETERA, NO  YOU HAVE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK UP TO RIVERSIDE TO GET TO THE PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT EITHER DIRECTION, IF YOU WERE COMING EAST OR WEST ON RIVERSIDE ALONG THE SIDEWALK, YOU WOULD, AS SOON AS YOU GET TO OUR PROPERTY, YOU'D JUST BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE PEDESTRIAN PATH TO GET THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, IF YOU WERE WALKING ALONG THE TRAIL, WHICH THEN GOES UP AT THAT POINT TO GO UP TOWARDS FURTHER TO THE EAST, THE LITTLE BRIDGE ACROSS RIVERSIDE OR UP ONTO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT, I GUESS THAT IS RIVERSIDE ALSO. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU WERE TO FOLLOW THE TRAIL RIGHT THERE, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE ACCESS POINT THERE? BECAUSE LIKE, ARE YOU GUYS COORDINATING WITH BERKSHIRE SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK ACROSS THE PROPERTY TO, SO THE TOPOGRAPHY DOESN'T ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN? SO TO GET, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK UP TO RIVERSIDE, THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH GRADE CHANGE AS YOU PROCEED TO THE NORTHERN SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S A 10TH OF A MILE EITHER DIRECTION YOU GO TO GET TO EITHER THE, THAT GOES THROUGH THE SOUTH SHORE PROJECT OR THAT GOES THROUGH, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BERKSHIRE. 
          BUT THERE'S NOT A SAFE WAY TO GET FROM THE PARKLAND DOWN TO THE BOARDWALK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WILL THERE BE SIGNAGE ON THE ACTUAL TRAIL TO ADVERTISE THAT SMALL PARK OR IS IT 
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MORE LIKE IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE FROM A, IT'S MORE FROM A RIVERSIDE PERSPECTIVE, IT'S MORE FROM THAT SIDE. 
          THAT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT WE HAD BEEN ASKED. 
          IF YOU WOULD PUT IT DOWN THERE, I GET MY ANSWER WOULD LIKELY BE NO. 
          UM, WE, WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE BOARDWALK IS MORE KIND OF CONTINUOUS WHERE IF YOU'RE UP ON THE, THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF SIGNAGE UP ON THE RIVERSIDE SIDE, BUT WE HADN'T, IT HADN'T BEEN ASKED OR CONTEMPLATED TO PUT ANY SIGNAGE DOWN ON THE BOARDWALK. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN CROSS THE RIVER RIGHT THERE ON THAT LITTLE SPOT AS YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE EAST. 
          AND SO THERE'S LIKE A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND IT LEADS UP TO THE WALKWAY THAT YOU CAN GO DOWN TO THE TRAIL OR UP ONTO RIVERSIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WALKING RIGHT THERE PARTICULARLY THAT CHOOSE NOT TO GO ONTO THE BOARDWALK. 
          IT MIGHT BE NICE IF THEY CAN KNOW THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND THEN, YEAH, MY OTHER QUESTION, I THINK YOU ANSWERED, YOU'VE NOT DONE A TRAFFIC NO MA'AM. 
          ANALYSIS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN LASTLY THERE IS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, A BIKE LANE ON RIVERSIDE RIGHT THERE, UM, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF LIKE PROTECTION OF THE BIKE LANE AROUND WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MANLOVE, LIKE BE A LITTLE MORE BUSY? SO THAT'S ALL PROJECT CONNECT. 
          THEY ARE REDOING ALL OF RIVERSIDE. 
          UM, SO THEY HAVE WORKED WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABLE TO GET THEIR ENTIRE PROGRAMMED DESIGN IN THERE. 
          SO HOW THEY HANDLE THAT THROUGH, THERE WILL BE A COORDINATION BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION AND PROJECT CONNECT, ET CETERA. 
          BUT OUR JOB HAS BEEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO DO, WHICH WE HAVE. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AWESOME. 
          UH, THANKS. 
          I KNOW THOSE WERE SUPER SPECIFIC . 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          NO MORE QUESTIONS. 
          SECRETARY RESI. 
          HEY Y'ALL APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          I GUESS TO UH, PIGGYBACK OFF OF COMMISSIONER CHEN'S QUESTION. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, CITY OF AUSTIN OR PROJECT CONNECT WILL BE HANDLING ALL OF THE BIKE LANE STUFF, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD INCLUDE MANLOVE AS WELL THEN MA MANLOVE AS WHERE IT SITS MANLOVE TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY REALLY SERVES MORE AS A, IS A DRIVEWAY, IT DOESN'T CONNECT ANYWHERE MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST IN ITS CURRENT, UH, YOU KNOW, WIDTH, ET CETERA. 
          NO ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN ASKED FOR OR IS NEEDED THERE. 
          ESSENTIALLY ONCE YOU TURN NORTH, YOU'RE EITHER GOING INTO THIS PROJECT OR THE PROJECT TO THE WEST WEST. 
          YEAH. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, YEAH, AND I HAD SOME, UH, SOME THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, UM, I COME FROM WINDSOR PARK, WHICH HAD A BIG, UH, PROJECT WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOME COMMERCIAL LAND WAS TURNED INTO RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS. 
          SORT OF SIMILAR TO THIS ONE. 
          UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT IS SORT OF PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US AS, YOU KNOW, PURELY RESIDENTIAL. 
          BUT I DO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, GIVEN SORT OF THE, THE URBAN DENSITY OF THIS DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE SENSE TO DO A MIXED USE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, BUT HEY, THAT IT'S NOT MY MONEY, SO, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL DO WHAT Y'ALL WANT. 
          UM, I ALSO HAD SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS LIKE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME, SOME PRETTY LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW THIS THING IS LIKE BASICALLY LIKE ZERO FEET, RIGHT? COMPARED TO UH, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRED HEIGHT OF, OF THIS CORRIDOR. 
          UH, WHAT'S THE PROPOSED HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO LIKE THE NEXT DOOR, UH, DEVELOPMENTS? THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS 180 FEET IS WHAT WILL BE ALLOWED. 
          FINAL DESIGN ISN'T THERE YET, BUT IT'LL BE, UH, IT'LL BE ON THE HIGHER SIDE OF THAT. 
          IT'LL BE NEAR THE 180 FEET. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN APPROVED OR ARE APPROVED THAT ARE THE SAME ON THAT NORTH SIDE. 
          I AM GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY HAVE TO TELL ME, 'CAUSE I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON THE EXACT HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, 1 21 20. 
          I'M LIKE, LIKE, I KNOW IT'S OVER A HUNDRED, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA BE WRONG . 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, I GUESS LIKE, WE'LL SAY LIKE 33% TALLER THAN THE BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY NEXT TO IT. 
          33 TO FOUR, WHATEVER THE MATH WORKS OUT TO. 
          I I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY 25. 
          I CAN STAY IN THE SPACE, BUT 25%. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M TRYING TO DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD, BUT LIKE I SAID, 2025 TO 33%. 
          SOME, SOME SOMEWHERE IN THERE. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK I ALSO AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER CHET ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY HAVING SIGNAGE ON THE BOARDWALK. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU, UH, THINK ABOUT THE LORD, I FORGET BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS ON BREATH WHEN I'M ON THE TRAIL, BUT I WANNA SAY THE SOUTHWEST, UH, PART OF THE BOARDWALK, UH, OF THE BROOK TRAIL, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE LIKE A SIGN THAT'S LIKE SOUTH CONGRESS THIS WAY OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? SO MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING REALLY NEAT IN THE PARK THAT YOU COULD HAVE AS LIKE YOUR LITTLE, YOU 
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KNOW, IMAGE SIGN OR WHATEVER FOR, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING, UH, VISITORS ON THE BOARDWALK. 
          UH, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TRAIL FOUNDATION WOULD BE RETICENT TO LET ANYBODY ADVERTISE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE TRAIL. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET EDDIE EVERY DIME THEY CAN. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I HAD A QUESTION I WAS SORT OF GOING THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS DOCUMENT HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL SAY THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE DOING, YOU KNOW, LIKE ROOFTOP UH, GREENERY STUFF. 
          SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE AREN'T, THERE ISN'T GONNA BE ANY LIKE SOLAR ROOFTOP AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE LIKE PLANTINGS UP TOP. 
          NO, WE, WE DO, NO, WE, IT IS PLANTINGS AT IN, UM, CONDENSATE CAPTURE AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND THEN, UH, I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION. 
          UH, I SEE THAT Y'ALL WILL PROVIDE ONSITE LONG-TERM BICYCLE PARKING AT 150% OF CODE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS WHY I WAS KIND OF ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BIKE PROTECTIONS ON MAN LOVE, IF THAT'S LIKE AN ENTRANCE, UH, THAT PEOPLE WILL BE BIKING INTO, INTO THE PROPERTY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LOVE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPING THAT WE DON'T GET HIT BY CARS WHEN WE'RE RIDING OUR BIKES. 
          SO WHATEVER PROTECTIONS WE'VE GOT. 
          SO WE, WELL, I DID MENTION IT, BUT THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, CHANGES IN PAVEMENT TYPE, ET CETERA, IF SOMEONE IS MOVING TO WHERE A EITHER A PEDESTRIAN OR A BICYCLE IS GOING TO CROSS A VEHICLE CROSSING AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN I ALSO SEE HERE THAT IT SAYS, UH, THE POD WILL ALSO PROVIDE ELECTRIC CAR CHARGING FOR 10% OF TOTAL SPACES WITHIN THE ONSITE PARKING GARAGE. 
          AND WE'LL WIRE 25% OF THE VEHICLE OR PARKING SPACES. 
          BUT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THERE, THERE'S NOT ANY VEHICLE PARKING, RIGHT? NO, THE THE QUESTION WAS, THERE'S NO, THE QUESTION I SAID THERE'S NO VEHICLE PARKING IS DEDICATED TO THE PARKLAND. 
          AH, SO ALL OF THE PARK PARKING IS FOR THE PROJECT. 
          IT IS ALL DECOUPLED, RIGHT? YOU HAVE, YOU LIVE THERE, YOU HAVE TO RENT YOUR PARKING SPACE SEPARATE, YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEED A PLACE TO GO. 
          UM, AND SO THAT IS ALL THERE, BUT WE ARE MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR SPACES. 
          SO THE, UH, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AS IT EXISTS TODAY HAS ZERO, UM, EV PARKING. 
          SO WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THE, THE 10 THAT HAS TO BE THERE THE DAY THAT IT OPENS WITH THE 25% WIRED TO BE CONVERTED. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A DEPRESSING EMPTY PARKING LOT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          . 
          UM, AND SO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE LIKE, IS THAT UNDERGROUND? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I REMEMBER Y'ALL SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT LIKE A SEPARATE GARAGE. 
          IT'S ABOVEGROUND, SO IT'S SEPARATE GARAGE TODAY, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS, IS A MIX. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THERE IS A REALLY, REALLY LARGE DRAIN THAT GOES UNDER THIS PROPERTY AND THE, IT IS ACTUALLY MUCH BETTER ENVIRONMENTALLY TO PULL THE PARKING ABOVE GRADE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IN THIS SCENARIO, WHICH WE, I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING IN PUBLIC, BUT, UM, , IT, IT IS ACTUALLY BETTER FOR THE PARKING TO BE ABOVE GRADE HERE AND WE HAVE PROVIDED A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION. 
          SO IT IS THERE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK THOSE WERE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. 
          UH, APPRECIATE IT CHAIR, BRISTOL. 
          HI THERE. 
          I'M GLAD WE GOT THE TECHNICAL ISSUES WORKED OUT. 
          SO I WANNA STICK WITH THE, UM, UH, PARKING REALLY QUICK, SO. 
          SURE. 
          UM, WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, THE PARKING IS ON THE BOTTOM LAYER AND THEN THE LIVING IS, UH, ABOVE THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND, AND SO I GUESS HOW MANY STORIES WILL THE PARKING GARAGE BE? FOUR. 
          INCLUDING THE FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, UM, SO KIND OF TO ANSWER, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, COMMISSIONER KURESHI OR SECRETARY KASHI'S, UH, QUESTION OF, OF HAVING MIXED USE, UM, IT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'LL BE TAKEN UP BY PARKING GARAGE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S JUST NOT ANTICIPATED IN THIS LOCATION WE WORKED WITH. 
          UM, AND THE STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT TOO. 
          IF THE RETAIL THAT IS TO THE EAST OF THIS HAS STRUGGLED EXPONENTIALLY RIGHT THERE, UM, THE ZONING ALLOWS FOR IT IN THE FUTURE, SHOULD ANOTHER PROJECT COME IN, IT COULD HAPPEN. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT IT THERE. 
          ALL THE RETAIL SPACES THAT HAVE GONE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THIS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE. 
          AND SO THIS IS NOT A LOCATION THAT WE FEEL THAT RETAIL IS VIABLE GIVEN WHERE IT'S, OKAY. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, THAT I'VE OBSERVED, AND I I CHALLENGE EVERYBODY TO, UM, TO LOOK FOR WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND AUSTIN, UM, IS, UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIGHT POLLUTERS, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE METRO AREA ARE PARKING GARAGES. 
          UM, AND, UH, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME SORT OF LIGHTING SCHEME WITHIN THE PARKING GARAGE THAT REALLY ADDRESSES, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTS BEING ON ALL NIGHT LONG. 
          THEY'RE, THEY DON'T, THEY, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHIELDING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDERNEATH THE PARKING GARAGE. 
          BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THEN IT HITS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT BRIGHT CONCRETE AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, FLOWS OUT IN EVERY DIRECTION. 
          SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT 
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ADDRESSED. 
          THE, THE PROJECT IS FULLY, IS DARK SKY'S COMPLIANT. 
          AND SO WE, AXEL LET MAKE, LET ME LET OUR ARCHITECT COME AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR ON THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          WHEN YOU CAN SEE. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS AXEL . 
          I'M WITH ZIGLAR COOPER ARCHITECT. 
          WE'RE THE ARCHITECT OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT REALLY BUGS THE ARCHITECT TOO, BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE THOSE LIGHTS. 
          UH, THERE'S A VERY HIGH CONTRAST WHEN YOU LOOK UP AND IN THE PARKING GARAGE AND YOU SEE THOSE LIGHTS. 
          SO WHAT WE DO IS, UM, A NUMBER OF THINGS TO, TO, TO ELIMINATE THAT. 
          THERE'S A WAY TO PUT LIKE BAFFLES ON THE LIGHT, SO THEY ONLY REALLY SHINE DOWN ONTO THE GARAGE AND YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THEM FROM THE STREET. 
          WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE THEM FROM THE STREET EITHER. 
          UH, AND WE ALWAYS TRY TO SCREEN THE GARAGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          THERE'S DIFFERENT METHODS TO DO THAT. 
          UH, ARCHITECTURALLY WE COULD HAVE SOME, UM, CORRUGATED PANELS, WE CAN HAVE SOME PERFORATED PANELS, UH, SOME LOUVERS. 
          AND, UM, UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO, TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF DIRECT LIGHT SOURCES. 
          YOU SEE, WE LIKE TO SEE THE LIGHT ON THE BUILDING AS IT'S CAST ON THE BUILDING FROM LIKE A SCAN SLIDE OR SOMETHING THAT SHINES DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, COMPLIES WITH THE DARK SKY ORDINANCE, BUT WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL LIGHT SOURCE. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YEAH, AND I, I WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND THAT, UM, THE TEMPERATURE OF THE LIGHT, UM, IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES FOR BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN WITH THAT TEMPERATURE? YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          SO LET'S LOOK AT, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN REALLY QUICK. 
          YOU ARE, UM, ON AN IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT, UM, BIRD CORRIDOR, UH, WITH, UM, WITH THE RIVER RIGHT THERE. 
          UM, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE TOO MUCH GOING ON, UH, WITH, UM, HAVING ANY KIND OF BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN WITHIN, UM, WHETHER IT'S THE FRITTED GLASS, UM, SOME DECORATIVE SCREENING, LONG AWNINGS, UM, ANYTHING FROM THE BEST, BEST PRACTICES THAT YOU KNOW OF. 
          WE ARE MEETING THE LEAD PILOT PROGRAM AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE OUR ARCHITECTS, IF YOU LIKE TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I CAN, UM, PUT THAT IN. 
          BUT WE ARE MEETING THE, UH, LEAD BIRD PILOT PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I THINK I MISSED THAT, SO, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF OKAY WITH THIS PROJECT WHEN IT WAS AT 96 FEET, THEN I THINK IT WENT TO ONE 20 AND NOW IT'S 180. 
          UM, THAT SURE IS HIGH. 
          UM, THAT'S REAL HIGH. 
          AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE NEXT TO IT, OR AT ONE 20, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BACK DOWN AT ONE 20. 
          AND I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING DOLLAR SIGNS RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE, THE, THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BEHIND YOU, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR VIEW CORRIDOR, UM, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT HEIGHT A LOT, BUT, UM, 180 IS, IS PRETTY DARN HIGH. 
          180 FEET IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, A LARGE NUMBER OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED ALONG NORTH, NORTH, THE NORTH SIDE OF RIVERSIDE. 
          UH, SO THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY AT 96 FEET BECAUSE OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. 
          UM, WITH THE PUTT, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE CONTEMPLATING THE 180 UH, FEET. 
          AGAIN, IT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE HEIGHTS THAT ARE PROPOSED ALONG, UH, THE NORTH SIDE OR ALONG THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. 
          BUT SPECIFICALLY THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST RIVERSIDE. 
          THIS IS ALSO, I MEAN, IN ONE OF THE FEW CITY PARTS OF THE CITY THAT TRULY WILL HAVE BUS, BIKE AND TRAIN ACCESS WHERE IT DOES MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE AS MANY INDIVIDUALS AS WE CAN. 
          SO, UM, YOU WENT FROM, FROM 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER TO 70% IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          AGAIN, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LOT OF HEIGHT AND, AND, UM, A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THINKING, SO I'M SO SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT THAT. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA PROVIDE A QUICK OH NO, GO AHEAD. 
          QUICK CLARIFICATION ON THAT. 
          SO THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE PROJECT IS 46%. 
          THAT 65 TO 70 IS ONLY FOR THE AREA THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PRIMARY SETBACK OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. 
          AGAIN, WE WERE COMMITTED TO THE 65% AND CAN GO THERE. 
          WE WERE ASKED BY STAFF TO, UM, CONSIDER CHANGING OUR FIRE LANE AND MAKING IT IMPERVIOUS. 
          UH, IN, IN 
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DOING SO, WE WERE ASKED TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER, SO WE WERE ALWAYS TREATING THAT AREA AS IF IT WAS IMPERVIOUS. 
          SO WHILE THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IS IS CHANGING, WE HAVE ALWAYS ANTICIPATED AND ARE COMMITTED TO TREATING THAT. 
          AND AGAIN, THE OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE SITE IS 46%. 
          THAT IS JUST FOR THE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE PRIMARY SETBACK OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          UM, SO, UM, I KNOW, I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT THE TREE, BUT UM, I, I THINK, I THINK I HEARD YOU, AND I THINK I READ THAT YOU'RE MOVING AT 30 FEET, IS THAT CORRECT? THE HERITAGE TREE? UH, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE TO, I MEAN, 30 FEET, SO WITHIN WHERE IT SITS TODAY, THE PROJECT IS NOT DEVELOPABLE. 
          IT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FLAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND IF YOU COULD PUT THAT, I CAN SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHERE IT IS. 
          SO WE WORKED TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE IT ON SITE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE POSSIBLE. 
          AND AS, UH, AS TAYLOR MENTIONED AND, AND CAN CHIME IN IF NECESSARY, WE, AS WITH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WE MADE SURE, NOT AS YOU KNOW, NOT ALL TREES ARE CANDIDATES FOR RELOCATION, BUT THIS ONE IS A HEALTHY SPECIMEN THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH ARBORISTS ON TO RELOCATE. 
          UH, BUT WHERE IT SITS TODAY, IT WOULD RENDER THE PROPERTY UNDEVELOPABLE. 
          THEREFORE WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE IT ON SITE VERSUS ASKING FOR THE PERMISSION TO REMOVE IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
          I HAVE LOTS OF THINGS TO SAY, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEM. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          UM, SO, UM, ON THE DOG PARK, UM, ARE Y'ALL PUTTING, UM, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF DOWN ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND I GOT THAT RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S SOME, SO IT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
           OKAY. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE REALLY TALKED ABOUT AT THE, UM, AT THE COMMISSION. 
          AND WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP, UM, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY, TO REALLY DIG IN AND, AND LOOK AT THE TOXICITY BASICALLY OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS ART ARTIFICIAL TURF AND, YOU KNOW, WITH IT BEING THERE SO CLOSE TO THE LAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, ANYWAY, I I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST THAT. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE NO ART, ARTIFICIAL TURF HELPFUL USE ON THIS PROJECT AT ALL. 
          SURE. 
          AND ANOTHER ISSUE TOO IS THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF IS CONSIDERED TO BE IMPERVIOUS COVER, SO YOU WOULD BE ADDING TO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER BY ADDING ARTIFICIAL TURF. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WIGGLE IN THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHRIS SULLIVAN, . 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, WELL, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND REALLY MY CONCERNS, UM, YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I, I GET IT. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S, UM, THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO EVERYTHING, BUT THIS ONE SEEMS LIKE IT'S ASKING FOR A LOT. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS. 
          THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE QUESTIONS. 
          MY FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT THE JELLYFISH, WHICH WE TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS, FROM A WATER QUALITY STANDPOINT, A DIFFERENCE FROM HOW A RAIN GARDEN OR POND WOULD FUNCTION IN COMPARISON TO A JELLYFISH. 
          CAN YOU QUANTIFY THAT DIFFERENCE AT ALL OR DELINEATE IT IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF POLLUTANTS? UH, YES, WE CERTAINLY CAN. 
          I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT, IT DOES WELL FOR A COUPLE OF METALS, ZINC, AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER ONE IS LEAD AND THEN COMES CLOSE TO MATING TSS REQUIREMENTS. 
          BUT A LOT OF THE OTHER POLLUTANTS, UM, ARE NOT, IT, IT DOESN'T MEET OUR STANDARDS. 
          WHAT ARE THE TSS REQUIREMENTS? UH, IT'S IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL OF HOW MUCH IT NEEDS TO REMOVE. 
          SO I THINK, UH, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, UM, THE, THE, THE JELLYFISH IS LIKE AROUND 70 OR 80% REMOVAL OF WHAT A POND WOULD BE. 
          AND SO GOT IT PONDS FUNCTION BY TAKING THE FIRST FLUSH OF, OF STORM WATER. 
          UM, SO THE FIRST TWO INCH PLUS HALF INCH, SORRY, HALF INCH PLUS. 
          UM, AND SO, AND THEN THE REST OF THE STORM WATER AFTER THAT FIRST FLUSH IS SUPPOSED TO BE CLEANER, AND SO IT DOESN'T USUALLY GO TO THE WATER QUALITY POND. 
          AND SO IT HOLDS IT THERE AND ALLOWS THE SEDIMENT TO, YOU KNOW, FALL OUT. 
          UM, AND THESE DON'T FUNCTION QUITE AS WELL AS A POND WOULD. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND ARE, ARE OPTIONS PONDED OR JELLYFISH? WAS THERE 
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ANY INBETWEEN OPTION THAT WE COULD HAVE CONSIDERED? YEAH, KNOW FOR A, A FLAT SURFACE LIKE THIS, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THE OPTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T CAPTURE IT IN A CISTERN FOR EXAMPLE. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD JUST, IF I MAY ADD JUST ONE QUICK THING ON THAT, IT JUST AS A NOTE THAT THIS IS TRULY A SUPERIORITY ITEM TREATING AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY UNTREATED. 
          SO WE ARE TREATING THE ENTIRETY OF OUR REQUIREMENT ON SITE IN A POND. 
          SO THIS SITE PLAN IS OLD ENOUGH THAT IT ACTUALLY COULD HAVE BEEN A SAND FILL POND IN THE BOTTOM OF THE GARAGE, BUT WE ARE DOING A FULL, UM, GREEN BIOFILTRATION POND. 
          SO EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED, REQUIRED TO TREAT IS GOING THROUGH THE POND. 
          THIS JELLYFISH IS ONLY TREATING, UH, WHAT IS A SUPERIORITY, THAT IS A HARD WORD TO SAY, SOMETIMES SUPERIORITY ITEM, WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE CONTINUE TO FLOW DIRECTLY INTO THE LAKE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT MIGHT BE UNTREATED NOW, BUT LIKE YOU ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY. 
          SO I THINK THE RUNOFF WE CAN IMAGINE WILL BE DIFFERENT. 
          SO THIS TREATS THE MAN LOVE STREET, RIGHT? IS WHAT THIS TREATS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE TREATING OUR ENTIRE, LIKE ALL OF OURS IS ON SITE, BUT THIS IS TREATING MAN LOVE, WHICH WE OTHERWISE WOULDN'T TOUCH AND WOULD OTHERWISE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE POND. 
          SO THERE WILL BE RAIN GARDENS FOR THE BUILDING. 
          100%. 
          I SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, THERE WILL BE, YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, WHAT IS MAINTENANCE LIKE FOR THE JELLYFISH? LIKE HOW OFTEN DO YOU HAVE TO REPLACE PARTS? HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GUYS TESTING THAT YOU HAVE TO CONTACT? ANYBODY KNOW THEY, THEY DO . 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          SAM PFEIFFER. 
          I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. 
          I'M WITH KIMLEY HORN. 
          UM, THE JELLYFISH PRODUCT IS RELATIVELY SIMPLE. 
          IT'S BASICALLY JUST A, A PRECAST CONCRETE MANHOLE WITH FILTERS IN IT FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT. 
          REALLY ALL THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SHOW UP, LIFT THE LID ON THE MANHOLE, PULL OUT THE FILTERS, RINSE 'EM OFF WITH A HOSE, PUT 'EM BACK IN. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND HOW OFTEN SHOULD THAT HAPPEN? I THINK IN THE FIRST YEAR IS KIND OF LIKE A TRIAL BASIS. 
          THEY CHECK IT EVERY COUPLE MONTHS AND THEY FIGURE OUT A, A MORE PERMANENT, UH, MAINTENANCE PATH AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR. 
          THEY BEING LIKE THE JELLYFISH COMPANY SPECIFICALLY? OR WHO'S IN CHARGE OF MAINTENANCE? THE MAINTENANCE COMPANY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, THE COMPANY THAT MANUFACTURES JELLYFISH, IT'S CALLED CONTECH UHHUH, THEY ALSO, UM, BASICALLY TRAIN AND APPROVE PEOPLE WHO MAINTAIN THESE SYSTEMS. SO IT WOULD BE, UH, THOSE CREWS DECIDED BY THE ENTER. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND THEN I'M CURIOUS FROM CITY STAFF, LIKE HOW OFTEN WE'RE DOING WATER QUALITY TESTING IN THE LAKE SLASH COLORADO RIVER RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE HARD TO MEASURE THE IMPACTS OF LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT OR THE JELLYFISH BEFORE, AFTER, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAVE A BASELINE AND THEN AS THIS AREA DEVELOPS, IF WE SEE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, WHAT COURSES FOR REMEDIATION? WE POTENTIALLY HAVE QUESTION. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LIZ JOHNSTON, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. 
          UM, WE DO ROUTINE MONITORING OF, UM, OUR RESERVOIRS LIKE AUSTIN, LADY BIRD LAKE, WALTER E. LONG, AND WE SHARE DATA WITH THE LCRA, WHO ALSO DOES MONITORING OF HIGHLAND LAKES IN THE COLORADO RIVER. 
          SO WE DO HAVE VERY GOOD BASELINE INFORMATION. 
          UM, I WANNA SAY THEY GO OUT SIX TIMES A YEAR, IF I'M NOT COR INCORRECT THERE. 
          UM, AND SO THEY, THEY HAVE CERTAIN POINTS UPSTREAM, MIDSTREAM, AND DOWNSTREAM. 
          SO WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE, UH, BASELINE FOR THE LAST, UM, I DON'T KNOW, 20 YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THEN MY NEXT QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT THE HERITAGE TREES. 
          SO THE TWO THAT ARE GETTING REMOVED ARE THOSE TWO, THE LIVE OAK LIVE OAKS, YES. 
          AND THEN THE ONE THAT'S GETTING MOVED IS THE AMERICAN ELM, IS THAT RIGHT? SO THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE HERITAGE TREES ON SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S THE ONE THAT'S THE FURTHEST TO THE NORTH, THAT ONE IS STAYING WHERE IT'S AT. 
          THEN THERE'S THE OTHER GREEN ONE THAT IS BEING RELOCATED. 
          THE TWO YELLOWS THAT ARE ON RIVERSIDE, THOSE ARE BOTH, UM, THE OAK TREES THAT ARE NOT IN GREAT HEALTH. 
          AND THEN THE AMERICAN ELM IS THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED FOR REMOVAL AS PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          DANG. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MIGHT HAVE JUST MISSED THAT AGAIN. 
          SO , WHAT, WHAT SPECIES IS GETTING REMOVED? UH, GETTING MOVED. 
          LET'S START THERE. 
          THE ONE THAT'S GETTING MOVED 30 FEET OR WHATEVER. 
          LIVE OAK. 
          A LIVE OAK. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND THE MITIGATION FEE IN TOTAL IS 400%. 
          SO THE, THERE'S THREE, THERE'S THREE TREES ON SITE, RIGHT? UHHUH, , THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED FOR REMOVAL WITH, AS PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT 
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PERMIT IS AT 150%. 
          THE ONE THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN DEEMED DDI DOES NOT HAVE MITIGATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE OTHER ONE THAT WE ORIGINALLY CAME TO YOU ON, WE WERE AT 150, BUT AT Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION WE INCREASED THAT FROM 150 TO 400%. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO YOU HAVE A FEE TOTAL FOR BOTH 150% AND THE 400% LIKE IN DOLLARS? WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO? THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION THAT I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M GONNA SEE IF SOMEBODY ON MY TEAM OVER THERE CAN FIND ME AN ANSWER WHILE I ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I'M WONDERING ABOUT STREET TREES. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A LOT UP IN THE AIR THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED HERE WITH PROJECT CONNECT I 35. 
          I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. 
          WHAT POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR STREET TREES IN TERMS OF HOW THIS IS BEING DEVELOPED? I KNOW I THINK CHAIR BRISTOL BROUGHT UP SETBACKS, BUT SO CAN YOU GO TO THE SITE? THE ONE THAT HAS THE YELLOW ON THE FRONT OF IT? IT'S BACK, UH, BACKWARDS. 
          A COUPLE THAT ONE. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, PROJECT CONNECT TREES, BUT THEN THERE'S GONNA, UH, ALSO BE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IN OUR AREA. 
          WE REALLY PULLED OUR BUILDING BACK SO THAT WE COULD CREATE THAT PEDESTRIAN AREA AMONGST, AMONGST OTHER THINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE LAST THING THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO DO IS, UM, HAVE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T WORK ALONG THAT PROJECT CONNECT AREA. 
          SO A LOT OF OUR SUPERIORITY THAT SEAN WALKED THROUGH AT THE BEGINNING IS REALLY INCREASING WHAT OUR LANDSCAPING IN THAT AREA LOOKS AT LARGER CALIPER TREES, ET CETERA. 
          SO WE CAN'T CONTROL ESSENTIALLY WHAT PROJECT CONNECT DOES, BUT WE CAN CONTROL EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR SITE. 
          AND WE HAVE WORKED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SPECIES ARE WHAT STAFF WANTS. 
          WE HAVE INCREASED THE PERCENTAGES OF THEM AND WE'VE INCREASED THE CALI FOR INCHES OF THEM. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          AND HOW DO YOU ANTICIPATE PROJECT CONNECT AND THE I 35 EXPANSION IMPACTING YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND IN PARTICULAR, ACCESS TO THAT PUBLIC PARK? I DON'T THINK IT'LL IMPACT THE PARK AT ALL BECAUSE, UM, WHERE, WHERE AS, WHERE MANLOVE IS, THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THE ACCESS TO OUR SITE. 
          SO THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TAKE IT AWAY. 
          UM, BOTH AND IF IT WAS JUST OUR SITE, MAYBE THEY COULD DO SOMETHING, BUT WILL ALWAYS BE, BE THE PRIMARY ACCESS BOTH TO THE BERK, BERKSHIRE AND TO OURS. 
          SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THERE IS A, A WAY THAT THAT GOES AWAY. 
          COULD IT POTENTIALLY BE MODIFIED AT SOME POINT IN TIME? YES, BUT IT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE. 
          UM, WE, YOU KNOW, STARTED THE COORDINATION WITH PROJECT CONNECT AND AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION VERY EARLY AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOES AS SEAMLESSLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE'VE ENSURED THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THIS PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING IMPACTS ON PROJECT CONNECT AS THEY MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ABLE TO STAGE WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR PROPERTY SO THAT WE'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN MAJOR AREAS OF RIVERSIDE. 
          THAT WAS, UM, PART OF THE REASON FOR THIS PUD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE SO THAT WE CAN CREATE THAT ENHANCED AREA AND NOT HAVE AS LARGE OF AN IMPACT AND ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THE PROJECT THAT'S GONNA BE SO GREAT FOR THE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO THE LANDSCAPER. 
          IS IT KW LANDSCAPING? IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO LIKE TALK PERSON TO PERSON AND LOOK YOU IN THE EYE. 
          'CAUSE I, I HAVE A BONE TO PICK JUST WITH, WITH LANDSCAPING GENERALLY. 
          SURE. 
          SO I WANTED TO ASK PLEASE, WHEN YOU DO THE NATIVE PLANTING, CAN IT NOT BE A LARGE AREA OF MULCH AND THEN LIKE A SINGLE LITTLE PLANT AND THEN A LARGE AREA OF MULCH? I WANT DENSE PLANTING BIODIVERSITY. 
          CAN YOU COMMIT TO THAT? BECAUSE I THINK WHAT, WHAT GETS AWAY FOR NATIVE PLANTING HERE IS LIKE KIND OF AN EMBARRASSMENT AND I DON'T THINK IT LOOKS GOOD IN THE END. 
          I THINK THE PROPERTY WOULD LOOK A LOT BETTER WITH DENSE GUILD PLANTING. 
          AND SO I'M SO EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE AS A LANDSCAPER. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE ON THE SITE, YOU KNOW, MANAGING FOLKS, BUT JUST WANTED TO RELAY THAT MESSAGE TO YOU DIRECTLY THAT I'LL BE LOOKING FOR THAT . 
          YEAH, NO, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY COMMIT TO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU SEE THAT, I DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL LA BUT I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THE PLANTS WILL GROW AND HOPEFULLY FILL OUT THAT SPACE, BUT WE NEVER INTEND TO LEAVE A LOT OF GAPS FOR MULCH MM-HMM . 
          UM, PARTICULARLY FOR THIS SITE, UH, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UM, KIND OF ROAD FRONTAGE AND PEDESTRIAN AREAS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BE UTILIZING A LOT OF, UM, SMALLER PLANTS UP AT THE FRONTAGE. 
          UM, JUST SO WE DON'T INTERFERE WITH, YOU KNOW, VISIBILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S ACCESSIBLE. 
          IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO CUT ACROSS THEY CAN. 
          UM, AND SO THAT SHOULD LEAD TO A LOT OF DENSE PLANTINGS. 
          WE ARE ALSO, UH, GOING BEYOND THE TYPICAL, UM, DIVERSITY REQUIREMENT. 
          AND SO WE'VE COMMITTED, I BELIEVE IT'S 10 OR 15%. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA PLANT MORE THAN 10 OR 15% OF THE SAME SPECIES, SO MM-HMM . 
          THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DIVERSITY, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLANTS AND WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE VERY FULL AND, UM, 
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AND NICE GOOD LANDSCAPING. 
          I'LL BE COMING BY AND LOOKING FOR IT. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN REC HAS SOME LIKE ADAPTED PLANTS THAT THEY RECOMMEND. 
          I'M MORE OF A PURIST. 
          I'M LIKE, PLEASE KNOW, PRIDE OF BARBADOS. 
          I DON'T CARE IF THEY'VE BEEN ADAPTED. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO I WANTED TO JUST GET YOUR 2 CENTS ON LIKE WHAT YOUR PERSONAL PHILOSOPHY IS WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE THE NATIVE VERSUS ADAPTED BALANCE, AND IF I COULD CONVINCE YOU TO GO WITH ALL NATIVES. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, WE DEFINITELY PRIORITIZE NATIVES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, 100%. 
          THE ONLY TIMES WE TEND TO DEVIATE IS IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR CERTAIN POPS OF COLOR INTEREST. 
          UM, SOMETIMES THE NATIVE PLANTS DO WELL, UM, BUT NOT YEAR ROUND. 
          AND SO WHEN WE GO WITH ADAPTIVE, IT'S TO KIND OF GET THAT POP OF COLOR MAYBE IN WINTER MM-HMM . 
          UM, FALL AND JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE A LANDSCAPE THAT ENDS UP APPEARING DEAD OR EMPTY, UM, AT THOSE TIMES OF THE YEAR WHERE IT MIGHT NOT, YOU KNOW, PERFORM AS WELL. 
          I'D LOVE TO CHANGE OUR THINKING AROUND WHAT WE EXPECT THE WORLD TO LOOK LIKE IN WINTER. 
          LIKE IT'S HOUSING BUGS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DEAD, DEAD PLANTS ARE SERVING A PURPOSE TOO, AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY FALL BLOOMERS. 
          BUT ANYWAY, I'VE, I'VE CONVEYED MY DESIRE, WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE ALL NATIVES, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU GUYS? UM, GO, I, I DID WANNA TOUCH ON JUST, UH, THE, THE AMOUNT FOR THE TREES THAT YOU HAD A QUESTION ON. 
          YES. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT THE STANDARD MITIGATION RATE IS $200 PER INCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, SO THESE STANDARD HERITAGE TREE FEE SHOULD BE $600 PER INCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT ONE 50 THAT'LL BE AT 300 PER INCH. 
          THAT'S FOR THE TREE THAT IS NOT DOING WELL. 
          IT'S A HAZARD THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, BUT THEN THE OTHER TREE THAT IS NOW BEING DDI, UM, INSTEAD OF MITIGATING THAT ONE AT 150% WE ARE WILL BE DOING 400%, WHICH IS UP TO $800 PER INCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN I KNOW OTHERS ASKED FOR A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ONE. 
          ARE WE JUST, DO WE NOT KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS THERE ARE GONNA BE? WELL, SO IF WE WERE TO PARK IT TO WHAT USED TO BE CODE, IT WOULD BE 628, BUT WE'RE PROVIDING FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN, FOUR SEVENTY SEVEN THAT, AND NOW THAT, THAT IS WHAT IT'S DESIGNED. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT COULD SHIFT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO SEE FEWER. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOWN FROM WHAT YOU COULD DO, BUT I THINK FEWER FOR THIS AREA WOULD BE GREAT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR EITHER STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? YEAH, COMMISSIONER KSI. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO I HAD A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT PROJECT CONNECT AND HOW, YOU KNOW, THIS DEVELOPMENT SEEMS TO BE INTERTWINED WITH THEM. 
          YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING IT UP, PROJECT CONNECT SEEMS TO BE DONE, UH, WHICH I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GRAIN OF SALT HERE, BUT THEY, THEY SAY IT WILL BE DONE IN 2033. 
          SO ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING GETS DONE ON TIME WITH Y'ALL'S DEVELOPMENT, WHEN WOULD YOU EXPECT IT TO, TO BECOME ONLINE AND WITH LOTS OF TENANTS, HOPEFULLY RIGHT? 2030? YEAH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THREE YEARS, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DUMPING, LET'S SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, GRIDLOCK, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC HOUR, UH, RUSH HOUR, RIGHT. 
          UH, ABOUT 0.3 MILES CLOSE TO I 35. 
          AND THIS IS ALSO TO PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I THREE FIVE IS ALSO GONNA BE EXPANDED AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          AND THEN ALSO TOO, SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, UH, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IF THIS BUILDING COMES ONLINE 2030, UH, PROJECT CONNECT COMES ONLINE 2033, YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, UH, ABOUT A 10 MINUTE WALK FROM THAT PROJECT CONNECT STOP, UH, OVER ON LAKE SHORE DRIVE, AND THEN ALSO TO BABY ACAPULCO, RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS OFF RIVERSIDE AND LAKE SHORE. 
          UH, THAT IS ALSO GONNA BE DEVELOPED INTO, UH, AN APARTMENT WITH A HUNDRED PEOPLE, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. 
          UH, THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE ABOUT A 10 MINUTE WALK FROM YOUR PROPERTY AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THIS SITE DOES PRESENT SORT OF, UH, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL LENDERS AND THAT WAS IT. 
          APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER LUKI. 
          I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE DOG PARK. 
          I WAS LOOKING AT THE, AT THE, UH, DRAWING HERE AND I CAN'T FIND IT AS, UH, YOU ACTUALLY GO BACK. 
          THAT WORKS TOO. 
          OH, LET ME SEE HOW GOOD MY DIRECTIONAL SKILLS ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAR WESTERN SIDE, IT'S THE SO FAR WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN YOU COME ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH OF THAT. 
          SO IT'S AT THAT CORNER ALONG THE YES, IT'S THAT AREA THROUGHOUT 
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THERE. 
          UM, OUR PARK IN WINDSOR PARK, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT ADDING A DOG PARK, UH, TO IT AND, UH, THE, THE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY CAME BACK AND SAID IT WAS A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE CREEK WAS RUNNING RIGHT NEXT TO THAT SPOT. 
          AND SO I REALIZED THAT A DOG PARK IS NOT NECESSARILY A VERY GOOD THING NEAR A WATER. 
          AND I WAS WONDERING HOW IT IS YOU'RE GONNA CONTROL THAT FROM GOING INTO THE, UH, THE RIVER THERE. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO, UH, BEING A PROBLEM. 
          IS ANYBODY, SINCE THIS IS GONNA BE A PARK, IS AUSTIN PARKS DEPARTMENT INVOLVED WITH THIS DECISION? HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          THEY, THEY REVIEWED IT AS, SO THE DOG PARK THAT SITS THERE TODAY WAS CONTEMPLATED AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL SITE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO EVERY, EVERYONE HAS LOOKED AT THIS. 
          IT'S NOT A NEW ADDITION AS PART OF THE P IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THIS LOCATION. 
          AND I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A FENCE AROUND IT? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, COMMISSIONER RETO, , . 
          I LOVE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT IS JUST, IT'S LIKE, I'M JUST IGNORANT, EH, ABOUT THE YELLOW FISH. 
          UH, SO YOU SAID THAT THE, UM, MAINTENANCE INCLUDES JUST TAKING THE FILTER OUT AND GETTING A HOSE, OR HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THAT? HOSE. 
          HOSE AND THEN JUST LIKE SPRAYING IT AND THAT'S IT. 
          BUT IF IT KEEPS THE, WHAT WE ARE TRYING, LIKE WE'RE PREVENTING TO GO AND THEN YOU'RE JUST SPRAYING IT BACK, LIKE HOW, MAYBE, MAYBE, YEAH. 
          THEY PUT IT IN A BUCKET AND THEY HAUL IT OFF. 
          SO SAYING THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, SAM, IS THIS ACCURATE? SO THERE'S, THERE'S AN INSERT THAT GOES INTO THE MANHOLE AND IT WILL COLLECT PIECES. 
          SO THEY'LL TAKE WHAT THEY COLLECT AND THEY HAUL THAT OFF. 
          BUT AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE OF THE ACTUAL APPARATUS, THAT IS JUST CLEANED OFF. 
          SO THEY, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY STOP AND COLLECT, THEY REMOVE, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T REQUIRE EXTENSIVE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. 
          THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT OKAY. 
          IS SIMPLER. 
          YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          I WAS LIKE, WHY, WHY, WHAT, WHAT'S THE POINT? RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          STOP. 
          WE JUST SLIPPED IT. 
          NO. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          WITH THAT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO MOVED. 
          MOVED BY SULLIVAN. 
          SECONDED BY BRIMER. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          LUKEY, ARE YOU SORRY. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          I JUST WANNA CONFIRM. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS MOTION PASSES. 
          PUBLIC CLEARING HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. 
          UM, AND NOW WE HAVE TIME FOR DISCUSSION AND A RECOMMENDATION. 
          WELL, WHAT, BEFORE WE READ A RECOMMENDATION MM-HMM . 
          I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSIDER SOMETHING ELSE TO BE PUT IN THERE. 
          SURE. 
          UH, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE PARK AND LACK OF ACCESS, UH, OR CONS, POSSIBLE LACK OF ACCESS BECAUSE IT'S RATHER SET BACK FROM THE ROAD AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VISIBILITY FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          AND IN A WAY THIS IS CAN BE MITIGATED A LITTLE BIT BY THE DEVELOPER, BUT IN THE END IT'S RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARTS DEPARTMENT TO ADVERTISE THEIR OWN PARTS. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT A NOTE IN THERE REQUESTING THAT THE DEVELOPER, I DON'T KNOW IF PUTTING UP A BILLBOARD IS THE RIGHT SOLUTION, BUT YEAH, THERE THE KIOSK THAT WAS JUST APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT WE VOTED AGAINST BE PUT UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR ADVERTISING THAT. 
          BUT THE SECOND THING I WOULD SUGGEST, AND I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE A AGAINST THIS IDEA, BUT, UH, FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE OLD FASHIONED AND GET AROUND BY CARS, UH, I FIND THE LACK OF AUTOMOBILE ACCESS TO THIS PARK TO BE INCONVENIENT. 
          UH, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING THAT WE ACCOMMODATE 500 VISITORS THE WAY ZILKER OR WALNUT CREEK OR ANY NUMBER PARKS DO IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE FIVE CARDS. 
          YEAH. 
          I GUESS. 
          'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY WANT TO GO THERE WHO MAY NOT WANT TO WALK ACROSS RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN ORDER TO GET THERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN THE PARLANCE OF THE CITY. 
          YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, 
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DISTRICT PARKS, REGIONAL PARKS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 
          AND THIS PARK WOULD SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. 
          AND THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA PUSH THEIR BABY CARRIAGE ACROSS A BUSY STREET LIKE RIVERSIDE. 
          THEY MIGHT FIND IT SAFER AND MORE CONVENIENT TO TAKE THEIR, UH, F 2 53 MILE A GALLON TRUCK ACROSS THE STREET AND PARK IT THERE WITH THEIR, THEIR KIDS IN THERE. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE A COUPLE OF CARS AND AN A DA PARKING SPOT OVER THERE SOMEHOW. 
          THE NUMBER, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO PUT IN 50 SPOTS OR SOMETHING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK SOMEWHERE WE CAN PUT FIVE SPOTS AND AN A DA SPOT THERE TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE FOR THAT. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS I HAVE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AREA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S NOTED. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, I HAD A, A THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, DOES ANYONE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT, LIKE THE COMPARABLE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN CITY PARKS OF THAT SIZE, THAT ACREAGE HAVE AS PARKING SPOTS? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I LIVE OUT BY BULL CREEK DISTRICT PARK AND THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THEY HAVE OUT THERE IS MAYBE 30, AND THAT'S A DISTRICT PARK AND IT'S GOTTA BE EASILY FIVE TIMES THE SIZE OF THIS ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S CONSTRAINED BY A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT LIMIT IT, BUT THAT'S NOT UNLIKE THIS ONE THAT'S CONSTRAINED BY THE PROXIMITY OF THE LAKE RIVERSIDE DRIVE OTHER PROPERTIES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          BULL CREEK DISTRICT PARK IS CONSTRAINED BY LOOP 360 BULL CREEK ITSELF. 
          UH, SOME PROPERTY ON WHICH THERE'S OFFICE BUILDINGS BUILT. 
          SO EVERYONE HAS PROBLEMS. UH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I I I, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS LITERALLY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARKING OVER AT DON BAYLOR PARK, WHICH WAS JUST REDEDICATED RECENTLY, THAT'S OVER ALONG MOPAC BY INFIELD. 
          THE PARKING THERE IS VERY SMALL. 
          THE, THE PARK IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME SIZE, IF NOT A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THE PARK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          BUT, BUT THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          ANY OTHER NOTES? UM, OUTSIDE OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS? YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONER C***K SET. 
          I, UM, LIVE IN SOUTH AUSTIN AND SOME OF OUR LIKE LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS DON'T HAVE ANY LIKE DEDICATED PARKING. 
          UM, WHICH PERSONALLY I FIND ANNOYING. 
          BUT, UM, I AM WONDERING WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE FOR, UM, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO LIKE, MAYBE RENT A COUPLE OF THE SPOTS THAT ARE IN THAT RETAIL. 
          SO LIKE NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S UM, ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL WITH, UH, RETAIL BELOW AND IT HAS RESTAURANTS AND STUFF LIKE THEY HAD MENTIONED. 
          THEY'RE NOT SUPER LIKE SUCCESSFUL, BUT THERE, THERE'S A TON OF PARKING THERE. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD GET SOME SORT OF ALLOWANCE FOR PEOPLE TO USE A FEW OF THOSE SPOTS. 
          OR MAYBE ON, UM, MANLOVE THERE COULD BE LIKE THE DEDICATION OF AT LEAST ONE A DA PARKING SPOT OR SOMETHING. 
          WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I, A AGAIN, I, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE, SO I DON'T LITERALLY REMEMBER THE WAY MANLOVE IS SET UP, IT'S LIKE A DRIVEWAY BASICALLY. 
          YEAH, IT'S LIKE A GLORIFIED DRIVEWAY. 
          IT'S PROBABLY LIKE THE LENGTH OF THIS BROOM. 
          LIKE IT'S SUPER TEENY. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE COULD PHRASE IT IN A MANNER THAT SAYS THE DEVELOPER WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MAKE ALLOWANCE TO HAVE AVAILABLE FIVE PARKING SPOTS. 
          YEAH. 
          AM I ALLOWED TO? AND LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, IT PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          LIZ IS THERE. 
          USUALLY YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BUT IF, IF THE CHAIR, UH, ALLOWS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN PROVIDE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND FOR, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. 
          SO AS PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT I WAS CONFIRMING WITH THE TEAM, UM, WE DID WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ON WHAT THEY WOULD WANT. 
          UM, THEY DID NOT INDICATE THAT AT THIS LOCATION THEY WOULD WANT PARKING. 
          THEIR BIG DESIRE WAS FOR SIGNAGE. 
          THEY ANTICIPATED THAT THE SIZE OF THIS PARK AND THE PART PARTS OF IT THAT ARE MORE USABLE ARE DESIRED FOR KIND OF THE PEDESTRIAN AS THEY GO THROUGH. 
          UM, THEY DID NOT ASK FOR ANY PARKING. 
          THEY SPECIFICALLY DID ASK FOR, UH, SIGNAGE AND DIRECTIONAL USAGE. 
          SO THAT'S, 
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THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER NOTES OR COMMENTS BEYOND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY, WITH THAT, I, I WANNA, YES. 
          CHAIR BRISTOL. 
          UM, SO, UM, COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, UH, VICE CHAIR KRUEGER, I REALLY WANNA ECHO YOUR SENTIMENT AND I THINK, I THINK THIS IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN AS A RECOMMENDATION IN THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT, UM, THAT THERE ONLY BE TEXAS NATIVE PLANTS ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS THAT CAN BE PLANTED THAT ARE EVERGREENS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A POP OF COLOR TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S ALIVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE, THERE'S MULTIPLE PLANTS THAT CAN SERVE THAT PURPOSE THAT ARE, THAT ARE NATIVE PLANTS. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, UH, UH, I, I DON'T WANNA SEE ANY ADAPTIVE PLANTS ON THAT PROPERTY. 
          UM, TO, I, I WOULD ECHO YOUR, YOUR SENTIMENT, UM, ON THAT. 
          I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, MAKE SOME SORT OF NOTATION, UM, UH, THAT THERE NOT BE ANY KIND OF ARTIFICIAL TURF ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'VE GOT THAT NOTED. 
          ALRIGHT, WITH THAT SECRETARY RESI, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION HERE. 
          RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 2 0 2 6 0 1 0 4 DASH 0 0 1 AT 1404 EAST RIVERSIDE POD CASE NUMBER 8 1 4 2 0 2 5 0 1 1 1. 
          WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZED THE APPLICANT, MANWAR GENERAL GROUP IS REQUESTING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED 1404 EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE SITE IS LOCATED IN URBAN WATERSHED, LAY BIRD LAKE WATERSHED, HARPER'S BRANCH WATERSHED DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE. 
          AND WHEREAS, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS THIS PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE UH, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE 1404 EAST RIVERSIDE PUD WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. 
          UH, THE STAFF CONDITIONS ARE THAT THE PUD WILL PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL OFF WIRE OFFSITE WATER QUALITY CAPTURE OF CURRENTLY UNTREATED STORM WIRE FOR MANLOVE STREET OF A MINIMUM OF 7,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          USING INNOVATIVE JELLYFISH FILTER, A 54 INCH LIGHT BULB CARRIAGE TREE WILL BE RELOCATED TO THE REAR PROPERTY PER APPROVED SP DASH 2 0 21 DASH 0 4 5 1 C. 
          THE PUD WILL ACHIEVE A THREE STAR ENERGY AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING RATING. 
          AT A MINIMUM, THE PROJECT SHALL COLLECT CONDENSATE FROM AIR CONDITIONING UNITS TO SUPPORT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF GROUND LEVEL IRRIGATION. 
          THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THE A LEAD PILOT, UH, BIRD COLLISION, DETERRENCE CREDIT, ST SEVEN LIGHT POLLUTION REDUCTION, AND COMPLY WITH DARK SKY REGULATIONS. 
          ALL REQUIRED TREE PLANTING SHALL UTILIZE NATIVE TREE SPECIES SELECTED FROM APPENDIX F OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL. 
          THE PROJECT SHALL UTILIZE METHODS TO SUPPORT LOCAL AUSTIN BIODIVERSITY THROUGH INNOVATIVE NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPING AND OR ROOFTOP INSTALLATIONS. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT OF REQUIRED STORMWATER WILL BE TREATED USING ONSITE WIRE QUALITY METHODS. 
          THIS PROJECT WILL INCLUDE SEVERAL LANDSCAPE SOLUTIONS THAT WILL BE ACHIEVED WITH THE INSTALLATION OF RAISED TERRACE GREEN ROOF MEDIA TO PLANT IT WITH A FOCUS ON POLLINATORS FRIENDLY SPECIES, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ROOFTOP PLANTING SHALL BE NATIVE TO THE EDWARDS PLATEAU AND EDWARD AND BLACKLAND PRAIRIE ECO REGIONS. 
          A MINIMUM OF 10% OF THE ROOF TERRACE SHALL BE DEDICATED TO LAND LANDSCAPE INSTALLATIONS. 
          THE CRITICAL, THE CRITICAL WIRE QUALITY ZONE WILL REMAIN FREE FROM ALL DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT APPROVED STORM DRAIN OUTFALLS AND RESTORATION. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ALL NON TUR PLAN MATERIALS WILL BE MADE OR ADAPTED. 
          SHADE TREES ARE NOT INFLUENCED BY UTILITY CONSTRAINTS WILL BE UPSIZED TO FOUR INCH CALIPER WITHIN THE PUD. 
          UH, 1.17 ACRES OF THE PROPERTY IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS PARK LANE, WHICH CONSTITUTES APPROXIMATELY 44% OF THE PROPERTY. 
          IN ADDITION, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION ARE BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN PRACTICES THAT EXCEED DARK SKY REGULATIONS AND LEAD PILOT BIRD COLLISION. 
          DETERRENCE CRAY, IN PARTICULAR, UTILIZATION OF WARM LIGHT AND MOTION SENSOR LIGHT ACROSS THE PROPERTY. 
          NO ARTIFICIAL TURF OR NON-NATIVE TURF GRASS, NO REDUCTION IN THE SETBACKS. 
          ENSURE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PARKLAND THAT MIRRORS ACCESS TO OTHER CITY PARKS ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND DAYS OF THE YEAR. 
          INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN, UH, SIGNAGE AND TRAFFIC ELEMENTS TO ASSURE SAFE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WITH VEHICLES, UH, ALONG MANLOVE STREET OF THE PARKING ON SITE. 
          RESERVE AT LEAST 10 SPOTS INCLUDING A DA ON THE GROUND LEVEL FOR PUBLIC PARKING. 
          ENSURE PUBLIC BIKE PARKING ACCESS FOR THE PARK, NO TREE REMOVAL DURING CRITICAL AVIAN NESTING SEASON, WHICH IS FEBRUARY TO JUNE, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 120 FEET. 
          AND ENSURE DENSE NATIVE GUILD PLANTING NO ADAPTED SPECIES, UH, EMPLOY NO MO AND LEAVE THE LEAVES PRACTICES. 
          ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY BRIMER. 
          ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE 10 PARKING SPACES. 
          WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT IT? 
          [02:00:01]
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY, I'M PICTURING, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. 
          I'M PICTURING THAT OF THE 467, THEY ALREADY HAVE 10 ARE RESERVED FOR THE PUBLIC ON THE GROUND LEVEL. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY ALREADY HAVE A GARAGE WITH FOUR LEVELS OF PARKING, SO I ALSO WOULD NOT, I I DON'T WANNA DISCUSS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION. 
          I JUST DON'T LIKE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT. 
          THESE SPACES ALREADY EXIST THOUGH, RIGHT? THEY EXIST FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING. 
          SO THE IDEA IS TO THE YES. 
          THE, THE PARKING SPACES ALREADY EXIST. 
          WE'RE NOT CREATING, AT LEAST I'M NOT PROPOSING TO CREATE NEW PARKING SPACES. 
          IT'S OF THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, RESERVE 10 OF THOSE FOR THE PUBLIC AND NOT JUST HAVE ALL OF THEM BE PRIVATE ACCESS. 
          I'M GONNA WEIGH IN REALLY QUICK HERE. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED, UM, THAT THEY BE PART OF THE EXISTING, UM, PARKING SPACES. 
          UM, IF YOU WANNA KEEP THAT IN THERE. 
          I, I, I GOTTA BE HONEST, I'M, I'M WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN ON THIS ONE. 
          SO WE AMENDED IT TO SAY, OF THE EXISTING PARKING ON SITE, REVERT RESERVE AT LEAST 10 SPOTS, INCLUDING A DA ON THE GROUND LEVEL GARAGE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC PARKING AND PARK ACCESS. 
          MAYBE WELL JUST ASK A QUESTION HERE TO CLARIFY THINGS. 
          WHEN THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS IN THE GARAGE, UH, THE ASSUMPTION GENERALLY WAS THEY ARE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE BUILDING, BUT NOT A DAY GOES BY THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE VISITORS. 
          BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY VISITORS WE'RE GONNA HAVE AND HOW MANY OF THOSE SPOTS ARE GONNA BE TAKEN UP BY VISITORS. 
          UH, MY INTENT BY HAVING THE EXTRA SPOTS, AND I DIDN'T MENTION 10, I SAID FIVE IS SIX IF YOU HAVE ONE FOR THE A DA, BUT WE WANT THOSE SPECIFICALLY LABELED FOR PARK USERS. 
          WE DON'T WANT THEM FOR VISITORS TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE, UH, IN THE BUILDING. 
          SO WE WANT THEM, YOU KNOW, I, MY INTENT IS THEY ARE FOR THE PARK VISITORS, FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO CROSS RIVERSIDE BY WALKING BECAUSE THERE'S NO ADEQUATE TRAFFIC CONTROL. 
          SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC THERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND YOUR INTENTION WAS NOT TO INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND CREATE SIX ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS. 
          IT WAS, OF THE 467 THAT ARE ALREADY THERE FOR PRIVATE USE RESERVE SIX FOR PUBLIC USE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? FOR PUBLIC PARK USE AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE PARKING THERE AND MAYBE WALKING DOWN THE STREET TO THE COMMERCIAL STORES OR I, WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING ON? OKAY. 
          WELL, LET'S, LET'S READ THE LANGUAGE AS WE HAVE IT AGAIN NOW, AND TAKE A TEMPERATURE CHECK AND WE CAN ALWAYS MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE IT OF THE, OF THE EXISTING PARKING ON SITE RESERVE, AT LEAST 10 SPOTS, INCLUDING A DA ON THE GROUND LEVEL GARAGE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC PARKING AND PARK ACCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SOME, SOME HEAD NODS. 
          UM, OF COURSE THIS IS A DEMOCRACY. 
          IF ANYONE DOESN'T LIKE IT, PLEASE DO. 
          MOTION TWO, I'LL, I'LL MOTION IN. 
          I'M HAVING A HARD TIME BEING A PARK PLANNER, NOT THINKING THIS THROUGH . 
          UM, ONE ACRE IS VERY SMALL. 
          UH, IF YOU THINK ABOUT 10 CARS, THAT'S GONNA TAKE UP A QUARTER OF THAT LAND. 
          AND IT, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM THE APPROPRIATE SIZE. 
          WHAT DOES SEEM RELEVANT IS THE ACCESS TO THIS PARKLAND IS VERY CHALLENGING ON MAN LOVE. 
          AND THAT WE JUST HAVE TO ASSURE IT'S SAFE. 
          IT'S CONTINUED. 
          YOU CAN GET THERE 24 HOURS, YOU CAN GET THERE SMOOTHLY. 
          I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF THAT IS TOO DANGEROUS? AND SOMEONE DOES WANNA SHOW UP IN A VEHICLE THAT THE CITY THINK THROUGH THAT POINT OF NO VEHICLE ACCESS. 
          MAYBE THIS ONE'S UNIQUE, BUT ONE ACRE OF PARKLAND IS VERY TINY. 
          UM, AND, AND TO THINK JUST 10 CARS SEEMS, SEEMS TOO MUCH. 
          BUT THE, THE 0.1 EMPHASIZES ASSURING SAFE AND SECURE ACCESS FROM RIVERSIDE ON MANLOVE AND MAYBE A VEHICLE ACCESS PLAN IS NEEDED, BUT, OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOTION? UM, IF ANYTHING THAT WE, THE, THE, THE KITTY, THE, THE CITY EXAMINE VEHICLE ACCESS TO THIS PARKLAND. 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT MAKING SURE THERE'S SAFETY ELEMENTS SO THAT PEDESTRIANS CAN GO SMOOTHLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHICH I THINK IS THE NUMBER ONE WAY FOLKS ARE GONNA ACCESS THIS, BUT THAT CITY CONSIDER VEHICLE ACCESS TO THIS PARKLAND. 
          ALTHOUGH, TO BE FAIR, I THINK THEY DID STATE THAT THE CITY DID LOOK AT IT AND SAID, YEAH, WE DON'T NEED ANY PARKING SPOTS. 
          MAKE YOU RECONSIDER THE CITY RECONSIDER VEHICLE ACCESS IF WE THINK, OR JUST, OKAY. 
          DO YOU WANT TO, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, YOU WANT A MOTION TO AMEND THE EXISTING LANGUAGE TO SAY, SO THE LINE IN QUESTION, LET'S SEE. 
          [02:05:01]
SO OF THE EXISTING PARKING, YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          THERE. 
          RIGHT NOW IT READS OF THE EXISTING PARKING ON SITE RESERVE, AT LEAST 10 SPOTS, INCLUDING A DA ON THE GROUND LEVEL GARAGE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC PARKING AND PARK ACCESS. 
          WOULD YOU MOTION TO AMEND TO STRIKE THAT LINE AND INCLUDE OTHER LANGUAGE? UH, WHAT IF WE JUST TOOK OUT THE NUMBER 10 AND SAID, UH, CONSIDER SOME VEHICLE ACCESS. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY NUANCES OF NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. 
          I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. 
          I GUESS A SECOND. 
          THAT CUT BACK TO . 
          OKAY. 
          HOLD ON A SEC. 
          LEMME JUST MAKE SURE I HAVE THE LANGUAGE CORRECT. 
          SO, OF THE EXISTING PARKING ON SITE, COMMA RECONSIDER OR JUST SAY RESERVE OR POTENTIALLY JUST SAY, RESERVE SOME SPOTS. 
          RECONSIDER RESERVING SOME SPOTS, SOME SPOTS, INCLUDING A DA ON THE GROUND LEVEL GARAGE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC PARKING AND PARK ACCESS. 
          DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? COMMISSIONER FLURRY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN HEARING THAT LANGUAGE CHAIR, BRISTOL, ARE YOU WANTING TO SECOND THAT STILL? YEAH. 
          UH, YES, I WILL. 
          I WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          UM, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT. 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT AMENDMENT, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND BEFORE WE VOTE. 
          I'D LIKE TO OKAY. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WITH REGARD TO THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER ABOUT NOT PARKING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, IF YOU HAVE A PURELY RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT CAN BE REASONABLY EXPECTED. 
          PEOPLE CAN WALK THERE WITHOUT A LOT OF TROUBLE BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL AREA IS RELATIVELY SLOW AND YOU CAN PUSH YOUR LITTLE BABY BUGGY AND CROSS THE STREETS WITHOUT A LOT OF TROUBLE. 
          AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT LARGER STREET, THE TRAFFIC ISN'T THAT IMPACTFUL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING PARKING IS NOT A MAJOR ISSUE. 
          THE DON BAYLOR REDIRECTED PARK, WHICH HAS VERY LITTLE PARKING THERE, ALTHOUGH IT'S ADJACENT TO MOPAC, AND YOU CAN SPIT AND HIT THE CARS OF THE GO BY MOPAC, UH, IT'S EMBEDDED INTO A VERY TIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND SO YOU CAN MAKE A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU DON'T NEED A LOT OF PARKING THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN WALK THERE AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING THERE. 
          BUT FOR CONVENIENCE, SOME PEOPLE MAY NEED TO DRIVE THERE. 
          I WOULD ARGUE THIS IS DIFFERENT. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH SIDE OF RIVERSIDE, IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, HEAVILY DEVELOPED AREA AND THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT IS SERVICING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTH OF RIVERSIDE, THEN YOU MAY HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO USE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. 
          CROSSING RIVERSIDE IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST DO BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DO IT. 
          AND WALKING UP TO WHERE THERE IS A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND A CROSSWALK IS NOT REALLY AN OPTION. 
          IT BECOMES A CHALLENGE TO DO THAT BY PROVIDING, AND SOMEONE MENTIONED 10 SPOTS. 
          I DIDN'T SAY 10, I SAID FIVE. 
          SO SOMEONE DOUBLED THE AMOUNT I MENTIONED. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO FIVE BECAUSE I THINK OKAY. 
          THE, THE THING ABOUT 10 IS, YOU'RE RIGHT, 10 IS A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER. 
          FIVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          BUT MY POINT IS, THE POINT OF HAVING PARKING IS TO ALLOW PEOPLE THAT CANNOT SAFELY ACCESS THE PARK SOUTH OF RIVERSIDE TO DO THAT. 
          IF YOU SAY IN THERE, ASK THE CITY, CONSIDER, WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS THEY GET THE PIECE OF PAPER, POINT OF ORDER, CRASH IT MM-HMM . 
          I'M SORRY, THE CHAIR IS CALLED THE QUESTION FOR A VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S VOTE ON THIS AND THEN IF THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          THE LANGUAGE, AGAIN, READS OF THE EXISTING PARKING ON SITE, RECON, RECONSIDER RESERVING SOME SPOTS INCLUDING A DA ON THE GROUND LEVEL, GARAGE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC PARKING AND PARK ACCESS. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND I SEE, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          LEMME READ OUT THE NAMES. 
          BRISTOL CHANG, FLURRY, LUKI, RESI, KRUGER, MORRISON, FIERRO, SULLIVAN, RETO, OR ALL THOSE AGAINST, UH, BRIMER. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND ANY ABSTENTIONS? NO ABSTENTIONS. 
          SO MOTION PASSES. 
          SO THIS IS THE LANGUAGE. 
          SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE FULL RECOMMENDATION. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE FULL RECOMMENDATION CHAIR, BRISTOL? 
          [02:10:01]
UM, YEAH, SO I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M ABOUT TO SAY THIS. 
          I I REALLY AM, I'M LIKE, CAN'T BELIEVE I'M ABOUT TO SAY THIS. 
          HOWEVER, UM, WE HAVE ASKED FOR, SO ONE OF THE VARIANCES IS TO GO UP TO 180 FEET. 
          IN ORDER TO GET THAT VARIANCE, THEY HAVE TO GIVE CERTAIN THINGS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ASKING A LOT TO GET THAT, UM, THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. 
          UM, I, I FELT STRONGLY, I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT KEEPING IT ONE 20. 
          BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA GET ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO TAKE OUT THE 120, UM, STATEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE BASICALLY WE'RE, BASICALLY, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GETTING ALL THESE THINGS TO GIVE YOU HEIGHT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME AS WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO ANY, ANY OBJECTIONS TO STRIKING, MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHT OF 120 FEET FROM THE RECOMMENDATION? ANY OBJECTIONS? COMMISSIONER BRIMER? I, YEAH, I OBJECT TO IT. 
          OKAY. 
           ALL. 
          SO CHRIS? NO, I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S A FAIR REQUEST. 
          YEAH. 
          CONSIDERING, I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY, OKAY, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S 180 FEET. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOT A HUNDRED. 
          AND I THOUGHT I HEARD, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AMEND IT TO. 
          WELL, THEY ARE ASKING FOR 180. 
          WE SUGGESTED 120. 
          AND NOW CHAIR BRISTOL IS SUGGESTING WE REMOVE THE ONE 20 BECAUSE ONE 20 IS ALREADY ALLOWED. 
          OH, WELL, I'M, YEAH, NO, I, I'M GOING WITH THE 180. 
          YOU'RE GOING WITH THE 180? YEAH, I GO WITH THE 180. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR WHEN HE READ UP ONE 20. 
          I DIDN'T. 
          OKAY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. 
          SO THEN YOU DO NOT OBJECT WELL TO THE ONE 20, WE'RE REMOVING THE ONE 20. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          REMOVE THE ONE 20. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO HERE, NO OBJECTIONS THEN. 
          I THINK GOOD TO REMOVE THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I HAVE ONE. 
          WOW. 
          I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC IN THE PART OF THE NA NATIVE PLANTS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY, I DON'T KNOW IF LIKE, WHAT IS CONSIDERED LANDSCAPING? LIKE, IS IT JUST LIKE THE FIRST LEVEL, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE NEXT TO PARKING LOTS? AND BECAUSE WE DID, THEY, THEY SAID NO TO LIKE LATERAL, UH, GREEN AREA, BUT THEN THEY SAID YES TO THE TOP ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IS THAT ONE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF, UH, I GUESS YOU CAN ANSWER, BUT I, I MEAN, IF THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS FOR IT TO ACUTE, UH, THEN BEING UP THERE, WHEN ARE THEY GONNA DO DURING THEIR SUMMER? I THINK THERE'S LIKE THE HIGHER CHANCE OF THEM TO LIKE, GO WITH NON-NATIVE IF THEY ARE GOING TO LIKE, FOR THE TOP ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST FOR LANGUAGE. 
          I'M SAYING LIKE, IF WE SHOULD JUST, I THINK IN THE, I THINK IN THE, THE POD AGREEMENT, IT DID SAY THAT THE ROOFTOP GARDEN WOULD BE NATIVE. 
          OH, EVERYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          I BELIEVE SO. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION. 
          WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION AS IS. 
          UM, AND I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE FOR THIS CHAIR. 
          BRISTOL? UH, YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CHIN? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER FLURRY? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LUKI? YES. 
          SECRETARY KREI? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER MORRISON? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER FIERRO? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER BRIMER. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS HAS THE 180 FEET IN IT, RIGHT? IT JUST SAYS NOTHING ABOUT FEET. 
          SO THE DEFACTO IS 180? YEAH. 
          OKAY, THEN YES. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER RETA ES. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I ALSO VOTE FOR, SO THAT IS UNANIMOUS. 
          MOTION PASSES ALL. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'RE 
          [3. Name: Rundberg Multifamily, SP-2024-0381C.SH]
GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          RUNDBERG MULTIFAMILY, SP 20 24 0 3 8 1 C POINT SH. 
          THE APPLICANT IS SIDNEY BARR, WGI. 
          THE LOCATION IS 2 0 4 EAST RUNDBERG LANE. 
          THIS IS IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. 
          WE'RE GONNA START WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION FROM JOHN CLEMENT ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION PROGRAM MANAGER AUSTIN WATERSHED PROTECTION. 
          IT IS WORKING. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          OH, SO THAT LIGHTS UP BACK THERE. 
          UH, JOHN CLEMENT WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION, UH, DEPARTMENT IN ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY. 
          [02:15:01]
UH, THIS CASE IS FOR 2 0 4, UM, EAST RUNDBERG, UH, RUNDBERG MULTIFAMILY. 
          AND COULD YOU BRING UP MY PRESENTATION? UM, UH, SO YEAH, THE GENERAL INFORMATION, UH, CASE NUMBER SP 20 24 0 3 8 1 CSH. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          IT'S IN THE LITTLE WALNUT CREEK WATERSHED, WHICH IS AN URBAN WATERSHED. 
          UH, THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON SITE, AND IT'S IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, SO THIS, UH, AND I'LL SHOW A, A CLOSE UP, UH, LOCATION MAP IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES. 
          BUT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. 
          THEY'RE PROPOSING 199 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ALL AFFORDABLE, UH, THROUGH BOTH AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED AND, UH, SMART HOUSING PROGRAMS. AND MORE THAN 50% OF THE UNITS ARE PROPOSED TO BE, UM, THREE OR MORE BEDROOMS PER UNIT. 
          UH, IT'S ALSO ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR, RUNDBERG LANE, UH, BETWEEN LAMAR AND UM, I 35. 
          AND IT'S, UH, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          UM, SO THEY, THERE'S CHALLENGES, UH, WITH THEM MEETING THE PARKING RATIOS FOR THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S, UM, NO OFF STREET PARKING DUE TO THE PRIVATE DRIVE TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND FRONTING DIRECTLY ONTO RUNDBERG LANE. 
          UM, SO THAT IS NECESSITATING THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO, UH, PLACE A PORTION OF, UH, STRUCTURES IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND TO MODIFY THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, SO THAT TRIGGERS TWO REQUESTS. 
          ONE, TO ALLOW FLOODPLAIN MODIFICATION IN A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, UH, WHICH IS 25 8 2 61 G. 
          AND ALSO TO, UH, MODIFY THE FLOODPLAIN OUTSIDE OF THE CRITICAL, UM, FOR A LOCATION THAT IS DETERMINED TO BE IN GOOD, UH, CONDITION BY OUR, UH, ASSESSMENT OF FLOODPLAIN FUNCTIONAL HEALTH, WHICH IS 25 8 2 63 C3. 
          SO HERE'S MORE OF A A, OH, WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT. 
          YEAH, WE'RE READY FOR THAT. 
          UH, UH, THIS SITE, UH, LAMAR IS TO THE LEFT AND I 35 TO THE RIGHT. 
          UM, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS THE, UH, WHITE ROOFTOPS TO THE BACK. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL PHOTO, THE PURPLE THERE IS THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE OF, UH, THE TRIBUTARIES LITTLE WALNUT WRAPPING AROUND THE SITE. 
          UM, THE FLOODPLAIN ISN'T CURRENTLY MAPPED IN OUR GIS BUT IT COVERS A PORTION OF THE BACK OF THE LOT THERE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, SO THIS IS THE FULL SITE, AND THIS HAS BEEN ROTATED NINE DEGREE DEGREES, SO IT'LL FIT. 
          SO RUNDBERG IS NOW ON THE LEFT IN THE PRIVATE DRIVE TO THE NORTH. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER, THE LITTLE BIT WHERE THE CRITICAL CROSSES ONTO THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND HERE'S THE, THE, THE HOW THE FLOODPLAIN IS PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED. 
          UM, THE RED THERE AND THE RED HATCHING THAT YOU SEE THAT GOES THROUGH IT. 
          AND THE PURPLE COLOR IS ALL EXISTING FLOODPLAIN THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPERS MAPPED SINCE THERE ISN'T CURRENTLY A CITY MA FLOODPLAIN THERE. 
          AND, UM, SO A PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE IS GONNA BE PUSHED INTO THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          UH, ONE THING, UM, THE FLOODPLAIN OFFICE, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERS THAT REVIEW THE FLOOD PLAIN MODELS AND EVERYTHING DON'T ALLOW YOU TO, UM, INCREASE THE FLOOD ELEVATION IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          AND ALSO THEY DON'T ALLOW YOU TO DECREASE THE FLOOD VOLUME. 
          SO IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA GO INTO THE FLOODPLAIN, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE FLOOD ELEVATION THE SAME. 
          BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PUTTING FILL IN THE FLOODPLAIN BY CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING THERE. 
          SO THEY SAY YOU ALSO HAVE TO CUT A PART OF IT OUT. 
          SO THE PORTIONS OF THE FLOODPLAIN THAT ARE BEING MODIFIED, THE RED IS THE FILL, WHICH IS THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THEN THAT PURPLE PORTION IS WHERE THEY'RE DOING A COMPENSATORY CUT. 
          SO THEY'RE TAKING OUT THE SAME VOLUME AS THEY'RE PUTTING IN. 
          SO EVERYTHING BALANCES OUT, UM, FOR, UH, FLOODPLAIN REVIEW. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, IF A FLOOD PLAIN'S IN GOOD CONDITION, UH, YOU NEED A LAND USE COMMISSION VARIANCE TO DO THE WORK THERE. 
          UM, THIS, UH, GOOD CONDITION IS DRIVEN PRETTY HEAVENLY, UH, IN OUR ASSESSMENT BY THE PRESENCE OF TREES. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF CANOPY AND A LOT OF UNDERSTORY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          UM, HOWEVER, 
          [02:20:01]
UH, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE UNDERSTORY HERE IS INVASIVE AUGUST, WHICH IS NOT IDEAL. 
          IT STILL COUNTS TOWARDS THAT GOOD CONDITION. 
          ALSO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS A DRY CHANNEL. 
          UH, IT'S GOT VERY INTERMITTENT FLOW. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE GOOD BASE FLOW. 
          UH, THE VEGETATION THAT IS AROUND IT, IT'S A LOT OF TREES, BUT IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE ASSOCIATE WITH, UH, CREEKSIDE HABITAT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, CEDAR ELMS AND HACKBERRIES AND, UM, EASTERN JUNIPER. 
          UH, AS YOU GET A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CREEK, IT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, COTTONWOODS AND PECANS AND WALNUTS AND ALL THESE NICE THINGS THAT YOU'D SEE, YOU KNOW, DOWN IN THE ONION CREEK FLOODPLAIN OR ALONG THE RIVER OR SOMETHING. 
          UM, AND, UH, SO, UH, IN ORDER TO, UM, MITIGATE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL RISK OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO, UM, DO A FEW THINGS, UH, AS A PART OF THE RESTORATION. 
          IN ADDITION TO KINDA THE STANDARD THINGS WE DO WITH, UH, NATIVE RESTORATION, WHEREVER THEY CAN DO IT, THEY'LL ALSO BE MANAGING THOSE INVASIVES AND, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING, UH, THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. 
          CUT, I'LL EXPLAIN IN THE NEXT SLIDE OR TWO, IS, UH, PROVIDING, UH, A FLOODPLAIN BENCH THAT, UH, IS, UH, LOWERS THE FLOOD. 
          EL LOWERS THE GROUND ELEVATION CLOSE TO THE CREEK, SO YOU GET MORE FREQUENT INUNDATION, UM, OF THAT AREA THAN YOU DO CURRENTLY FOR THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          UH, AND ALSO FOR THE STORMWATER OUTFALL, THEY'RE PROVIDING SOME MITIGATION THAT HELPS, UM, REDUCE EROSIVE FLOWS AS ALL THE STORMWATER COMES OUT OF THE, UH, DETENTION POND. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UM, SO, AND THIS SHOWS, UH, THE AREAS WHERE A LOT OF THE RESTORATION WORK IS BEING DONE. 
          UH, THE TOTAL AREA THAT IS BEING, UM, MODIFIED IN THE FLOODPLAIN IS, UH, 0.72 ACRES. 
          THEY'RE PROVIDING 0.66 ACRES OF KINDA THIS ACTIVELY MANAGED RESTORATION AREA. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE, UH, IN THAT, UM, TO MEET ALL THE RATIOS THAT THEY NEED, UH, FOR RESTORATION FOR MODIFYING THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, BY PAYING INTO THE RIPARIAN ZONE MITIGATION FUND FOR, UM, ROUGHLY $120,000. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS, UH, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION IN THE AGENDA MEETING, UH, FOR, UH, THIS MEETING ABOUT, UH, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH CUT AND FILL, WHICH IS, UH, WHY I SPENT SOME TIME, UH, DESCRIBING THAT EARLIER. 
          AND THIS, THIS SHOWS, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GREEN LINE THERE IS OF THE EXISTING GROUND NOW AS IT RISES UP OUT OF THE CREEK AND HEADS ON OUT, AND YOU CAN SEE FAR TO THE RIGHT THERE WHERE THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN CURRENTLY MEETS EXISTING GROUND, THE GREEN LINE. 
          AND THAT CHUNK OF, UH, CONSTRUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FLOODPLAIN, THAT'S THE VOLUME THAT NEEDS TO BE DUG OUT, UH, UH, ELSEWHERE IN THE FLOODPLAIN TO PROVIDE THE COMPENSATORY VOLUME. 
          SO ALL THAT FILL WILL GO IN THE RETAINING WALL WILL BASICALLY MOVE THE FLOODPLAIN OVER TO THE EDGE OF THE WALL. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO INCREASE THE ELEVATION OF THE FLOODPLAIN THROUGH THERE AT ALL. 
          AND, UM, THAT CUT, AS I SAID, UH, PROVIDES, UM, FLOODPLAIN ENGAGEMENT OR FLOODPLAIN BENCHING WHERE, UM, THAT AREA WILL GET INUNDATED MORE AND WE'LL BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF RIPARIAN OR, UH, CREEKSIDE HABITAT. 
          AND ANOTHER THING WE WORKED WITH THEM ON, UH, FOR THIS IS HOW EXACTLY THAT CUT WAS DONE. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S CLOSER TO THE CREEK, BUT ALSO THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE CREEK, THE MORE RISK THERE IS, LIKE DURING CONSTRUCTION OF, UM, YOU KNOW, STORMS COME THROUGH, EROSIVE EVENTS COME THROUGH, UM, DURING CONSTRUCTION AND EVEN AFTER THE WORK IS DONE, THAT'S WHERE THE HIGHER VELOCITIES ARE. 
          SO THERE'S POTENTIAL RISK THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE CREEK WITH YOUR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, EVEN JUST GRADING LIKE THIS. 
          SO WE WORKED WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THAT GRADING THAT BENCH FOR THE CUT THAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT KIND OF WORKS FOR US ON THE MITIGATION SIDE. 
          AND ALSO WORKS, UM, FOR FLOODPLAIN SO THEY CAN MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT IS COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF THE INNER HALF OF THE CRITICAL. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING RIGHT UP ON THE CREEK BANKS. 
          THEY'RE STARTING THAT BENCH JUST OUTSIDE OF THE HALF CRITICAL, UH, JUST OUTSIDE OF THE INNER HALF OF THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
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AND THIS IS, UH, THE KIND OF STORM WATER, UH, MITIGATION WE TRY TO ASK FOR, UM, WHEN IT COMES UP, EITHER THROUGH PROJECTS LIKE THIS OR ALSO, UM, WHEN, UH, WE NEGOTIATE, UH, WETLAND MITIGATION, UH, FOR PROTECTING CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. 
          UH, WE ASK THAT THEY PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT THE STORMWATER OUTFALLS. 
          IT'S A HEDGE ROW OF TYPICALLY, UH, SWITCH GRASS OR GAMMA GRASS THAT HELPS, UM, DISSIPATE THE VELOCITIES OF, YOU KNOW, RIP WRAP DOES ITS JOB, BUT, UM, DOESN'T ALWAYS DO AS WELL AS GOOD A JOB AS IT COULD. 
          AND THIS PREVENTS, HELPS PREVENT EROSION, UH, AS THAT WATER MAKES ITS WAY THE REST OF THE WAY TO THE CREEK. 
          AND, UH, PROVIDES INFILTRATION, PROVIDES HABITAT AND SO FORTH. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE NOT, UM, PECANS OR COTTONWOODS OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY'RE STILL NICE, UH, WETLAND AND, UH, FLOODPLAIN PLANTS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THESE KINDS OF HABITATS. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, SO IN SUMMARY, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MODIFY 0.66 ACRES OF FLOOD LANE OUTSIDE OF THE CRITICAL AND 0.06 ACRES INSIDE THE CRITICAL, UH, FOR THAT CUT AND, UM, FOR THE AREA. 
          SO THE AREA'S ALL IN CURRENTLY GOOD CONDITION, BUT AS WE DISCUSSED, IT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY GOOD GOOD CONDITION. 
          UH, JUST KINDA CHECKS THE BOXES, UM, IN OUR ASSESSMENT. 
          AND THEY'LL BE PROVIDING 0.55 ACRES OF RESTORATION OUTSIDE THE CRITICAL AND 0.12 ACRES INSIDE THE CRITICAL. 
          UM, THEY'LL ALSO BE INCREASING FLOODPLAIN CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS THAT ENGAGEMENT THROUGH THE, UH, FLOOD BENCHES, UM, MANAGING INVASIVE SPECIES, UH, ON THE, IN THE REMAINDER OF THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL STORMWATER PROTECTION WITH THE HEDGE ROWS, UH, INCREASING, UH, NATIVE DIVERSITY THROUGH, UH, PLANTING AND SEEDING IN THE, UH, REMAINING FLOOD PLAIN. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL MAKE UP THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE RESTORATION RATIOS BY PAYING INTO THE RIPARIAN ZONE MITIGATION FUND. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. 
          UH, THE CONDITIONS, AGAIN REFLECTING THE, UH, NATIVE SEEDING THROUGHOUT THE 0.67 ACRE AREA, UH, INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT, UH, PLANTING IN THE 0.22 ACRES, UM, THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UH, THAT ARE CURRENTLY LACKING IN CANOPY, UM, WITHIN THAT AREA. 
          AND INSTALLATION OF, UH, BUNCH GRASS HEADROW FOR THE STORMWATER OUTFALL. 
          UM, AND THE MODIFICATION SHOULD MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE CRITICAL, WHICH, UH, THEY'VE WORKED WITH US TO DO BY STAYING, UM, OUTSIDE OF HALF CRITICAL. 
          AND, UH, MUST IMPROVE ENGAGEMENT OF FLOODPLAIN DURING SMALLER STORMS, UH, WHICH IS THE BENCHING THAT'S PROVIDED, AND THEN PAYMENT INTO THE MITIGATION FUND. 
          AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS A PRESENTATION ALSO. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL BRING UP SIDNEY BARR FROM WGI. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          I'M CASSIE COLANDER WITH WGI, AND I'LL BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR RENFORD MULTIFAMILY. 
          SO WHO IS THE CLIENT? THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT IS ELLINGTON CAPITAL GROUP. 
          THEY ARE THE NATIONAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FIRM FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          UH, YOU NEED TO SAY NEXT SLIDE. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT IS EDMONTON CAPITAL GROUP. 
          UM, THEY ARE A NATIONAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FIRM FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING AND HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE DELIVERING MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE US INCLUDING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS. 
          THEY'RE ALSO COMMITTED TO COMMUNITY FOCUS AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE FOR PROJECT OVERVIEW. 
          THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT 2 0 4 EAST RUNDBERG LANE ON APPROXIMATELY 6.45 ACRES, AND IS PROPOSED AS A MULTI-FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES 199 UNITS AND PARTICIPATES IN THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED AND SMART HOUSING PROGRAMS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          FOR SITE CONSTRAINTS. 
          AS JOHN MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THE SITE IS HEAVILY CONSTRAINED BY BOTH THE FLOOD PLAIN AND THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LITTLE WALNUT CREEK. 
          A LARGE PORTION OF THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH DRIVES THE GRADING DESIGN 
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AND LIMITS WHERE DEVELOPMENT CAN OCCUR OCCUR. 
          IN ADDITION, THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE RESTRICTS DISTURBANCE NEAR THE CREEK CORRIDOR. 
          WE'VE ALSO PRIORITIZED PRESERVING EXISTING VEGETATION WHERE FEASIBLE ALTOGETHER. 
          THESE CONSTRAINTS RESULT IN A LIMITED FOOTPRINT AND REQUIRE A COMPACT AND EFFICIENT SITE LAYOUT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS, THE DESIGN APPROACH, FOCUS ON MINIMIZING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WHILE MAINTAINING SITE FUNCTIONALITY. 
          WE'VE BALANCED GRADING WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN TO MAINTAIN ITS CAPACITY WHILE MINIMIZING THE OVERALL DISTURBANCE FOOTPRINT. 
          GRADING IS ALSO DESIGNED TO BEGIN AT THE HALF CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, WHICH HELPS REDUCE IMPACTS CLOSER TO THE CREEK. 
          THE LAYOUT IS COMPACT AND EFFICIENT, ALLOWING US TO WORK WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS SIDE WITH MINIMIZING IMPACTS TO VEGETATION AND SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          IN ADDITION TO MINIMIZING IMPACTS, THE PROJECT PROVIDES SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTAL AND PUBLIC BENEFITS. 
          THESE INCLUDE REMOVAL OF INVASIVE SPECIES AND RESTORATION WITH NATIVE PLANNINGS, UH, PLANS TO IMPROVE ECOLOGICAL HEALTH AND SUPPORT POLLINATORS. 
          THE PROJECT ALSO MAINTAINS FLOODPLAIN FUNCTION THROUGH BALANCE GRADING AND A REDUCED DISTURBANCE FOOTPRINT. 
          WE'RE INCORPORATING SUSTAINABLE FEATURES SUCH AS ADDITIONAL BICYCLE PARKING AND EV READY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ACCOUNTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THE TOTAL PARKING. 
          A COMMUNITY GARDEN IS ALSO PROPOSED TO SUPPORT SUSTAINABILITY AND RESIDENTS WELLBEING. 
          AND ALSO, VERY IMPORTANTLY, THE PROJECT WILL CLEAN UP AND RESTORE AN EXISTING UNMANAGED AREA WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, IMPROVING BOTH ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          OVERALL, THE PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO WORK WITHIN A CONSTRAINED SIDE WHILE MINIMIZING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND PROVIDING ME MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CHAIR? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WITH THAT, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER CHINETTE. 
          I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER FLURRY? NO, I JUST APPRECIATED THE PRESENTATION, THE CUT AND FILL DIAGRAM IN PARTICULAR. 
          THAT WAS, UH, HELPFUL TO, TO SEE THE TIME THAT WENT INTO THAT. 
          UM, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THE CUT AND FILL IS, IT IS BALANCED IN SIZE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE NEW FILL IS IMPERVIOUS AND THE THE CUT IS LIKE REMOVAL. 
          AND SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT'S STILL, I'M JUST GONNA RELY ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERS HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR. 
          UM, BUT IT, NO QUESTION THERE. 
          UM, THE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME MOST WAS HOW MUCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE HERE, AND THEN THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND ANOTHER, UM, UH, PROPOSAL THAT WE JUST SAW, UM, IT IS STRIKINGLY, UH, DIFFERENT AND I DIDN'T HEAR TOO MUCH ON CONNECTIVITY TO THE SCHOOL OR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ON, ON ON THE PLAN, BUT IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAIN ACCESS TO THIS UNIT IS THE SAME DRIVE THAT THE SCHOOL WILL USE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I MIGHT LATER. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LUKI. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MORRIS? UH, COMMISSIONER MORRISON. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, JUST CURIOUS, UH, WHY I, WHY THE IMPACT IS JUSTIFIED IN A FLOODPLAIN THAT'S CLASSIFIED AS GOOD CONDITION. 
          UM, JOHN CLEMENT WATERSHED PROTECTION. 
          UM, IT IS, SO AGAIN, THE, OUR, OUR FUNCTIONAL ASSESSMENT OF FLOODPLAIN HEALTH IS DRIVEN PRETTY STRONGLY BY WHEN THERE'S, UM, FIVE CATEGORIES AND THREE OF THEM ARE BASICALLY, UM, SOME WAY OR OTHER OF ASSESSING THE PRESENCE OF TREES AND SHRUBS. 
          RIGHT? UH, AND THIS HAS TREES AND SHRUBS. 
          UM, ANOTHER PART, I GUESS, COULD WE PUT UP THE CROSS SECTION AGAIN FROM MY SLIDE? ONE THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT I, I FORGOT TO MENTION IS, UM, SO THE WAY, 
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SO IT'LL BE EASIER TO TALK ABOUT ONCE THIS COMES UP, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SMALLER STORMS HAVE LOWER FLOODPLAINS, LARGER STORMS, THE FLOODPLAIN EXPANDS AND EXPANDS. 
          AND, UM, WHEN YOU'RE OUT AT THAT FAR POINT WHERE THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS MEETING NATURAL GROUND, YOU KNOW, THAT LITERALLY ONLY EVER GETS INUNDATED. 
          YOU KNOW, WATER ONLY TOUCHES FLOOD WATER TOUCHES IT IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM, YOU KNOW, IN THIS SORT OF MODEL STORM OR WHATEVER. 
          WHEREAS THE CLOSER YOU GET, THE MORE INUNDATION YOU GET. 
          UM, AND THAT WHERE YOU ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND THE SHAPE OF THAT FLOODPLAIN, WHETHER IT IS LOW, CLOSE TO THE CREEK AND WIDE AND THEN COMES UP, OR WHETHER IT COMES UP RIGHT OUT OF THE CREEK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE NATURAL GROUND, UM, AFFECTS THE, UH, AREA THAT IS INUNDATED. 
          SO BASICALLY THE, YOU KNOW, THAT BUN BENCH THAT IS THERE NOW IS GONNA GET, UM, INUNDATED WITH WATER, UH, MORE FREQUENTLY THAN HARDLY ANY PART OF THE FLOOD PLAIN CURRENTLY DOES, UM, BECAUSE THAT PORTION OF THE GROUND IS COMING DOWN. 
          SO THE, WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE IN THESE RARELY INUNDATED AREAS WITHIN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN, YOU START LOSING A LOT OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A HEALTHY FLOODPLAIN IN THE SENSE OF, UM, UH, FLOOD WATERS. 
          THE, THE STORAGE THAT YOU GET FROM FLOOD WATERS AND THAT WATER SOAKING INTO THE GROUND. 
          AND THEN THE TYPE OF VEGETATION YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HACKBERRIES AND CEDAR ELMS OUT HERE. 
          UM, WHEREAS IN A MORE LOWER LYING FLOODPLAIN, YOU'D SEE, UH, LOTS OF PECANS, COTTON WOODS, UM, AMERICAN SYCAMORES AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          SO THE FUNCTIONAL ASSESSMENT SAYS THAT IT'S GOOD BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TREES. 
          THOSE TREES AREN'T NECESSARILY ONES THAT WE ASSOCIATE WITH, UM, FLOODPLAINS AND REALLY, UH, DYNAMIC HEALTHY FLOODPLAINS. 
          AND ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF INVASIVE COVER IN THERE, WHICH, UH, SO THE GUS UH, UH, GLOSSY PRITT IS AN EVERGREEN, UH, NON-NATIVE SHRUB THAT COMES IN, IS VERY AGGRESSIVE. 
          IT'S EVERGREEN, SO IT'S CONSTANTLY SHADING THE GROUND. 
          UH, IT DOESN'T OPEN UP IN THE WINTER, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO, UH, WALKING, UH, AND GREEN BELTS, UM, IN THE WINTER, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, YOU CAN SEE QUITE A WAYS, UH, THROUGH THE VEGETATION, UH, UNTIL YOU HIT THESE PATCHES OF INVASIVES WHERE YOU'RE THEN JUST CLOSED IN BY ALL THIS. 
          SO IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT CHANGES HOW THESE ECOSYSTEMS FUNCTION AS WELL. 
          UM, SO ALL THAT CONTRIBUTES TO, AGAIN, FORMALLY BY THE FUNCTIONAL ASSESSMENT, IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION, UM, BUT BY THESE OTHER METRICS THAT AREN'T CAPTURED BY THE FUNCTIONAL ASSESSMENT, IT'S NOT IN THIS GOOD CONDITION. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER FIERRO. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          COMM SULLIVAN? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          COMMISSIONER BRIMER? UH, NO, THAT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION FROM BOTH OF YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          COMMISSIONER MORTA OR I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SECRETARY RESI. 
          HEY, Y'ALL APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS, UH, PROJECT IS LOCATED SUPER CLOSE TO THESE TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, I WAS WONDERING WAS THERE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RUNDBERG UH, GETS PRETTY CRAZY BETWEEN LAMAR AND I 35 AND THE TRAFFIC GETS PRETTY WILD TOO, SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST, UH, CURIOUS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, ACTUALLY NO, A TIO WASN'T WARRANTED ON THIS PROJECT, SO IT WAS NOT, A STUDY WAS NOT DONE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I JUST FIGURE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTS WERE ON THE, UH, LAST PROJECT THAT WE JUST HEARD, UH, TONIGHT, AND IT'S GONNA PLAY A LOT MORE CARS ON THE ROAD. 
          OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEAR TWO ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT PEOPLE WILL RAVE ABOUT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, A MARKET NEED, UH, IS BEING MET HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, UM, OBVIOUSLY DEVELOPING, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS GREEN SPACES IS SOMETHING THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, UH, ALWAYS WINCES TO SEE. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SO I APPRECIATE STAFF DOING A, A GREAT JOB AND THE APPLICANT AS WELL OF TRYING TO, UH, BALANCE THAT. 
          UM, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, UH, APPRECIATE IT. 
          CHAIR BRISTOL. 
          I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THIS ONE. 
          UH, THE, THE, THE CUT AND FILL IS JUST, IS JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME TO GET BEHIND AND BUILDING ENOUGH FLOOD PLAIN. 
          I'M ALSO JUST CAN'T 
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REALLY GET BEHIND THEM. 
          NO QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          COULD YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE RETAINING WALL IS GONNA BE MADE OUT OF? UM, LIMESTONE BREAKING. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YEAH, I'M, I'M CURIOUS HOW THAT RETAINING WALL WILL IMPACT THE RIPARIAN HABITAT AND THE EROSION BELOW IT. 
          'CAUSE I IMAGINE IT PROTECTS TEXTS THE AREA ABOVE IT, BUT COULD CAUSE FURTHER DEGRADING DOWN BELOW. 
          AND SO I GUESS I'M MOSTLY LOOKING TO CITY STAFF ABOUT HOW, HOW DOES A RETAINING WALL LIKE THAT IMPACT THE RIPARIAN HABITAT, EITHER POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY. 
          AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UH, JOHN CAN MAYBE FOLLOW UP, UH, IF HE HAS MORE TO SAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING ITSELF IS GOING TO REMOVE ALL OF THE REPAIRING HABITAT FROM WHERE THAT FOOTPRINT IS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE RETAINING WALL IS BASICALLY THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          UM, AND THERE WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH, THE, THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER WILL ENSURE THAT IT, IT'S, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS FINE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THESE STORMS COME THROUGH, THERE IS OF COURSE OFTEN EROSION WHETHER THERE'S A BUILDING THERE OR NOT. 
          SO FLOODPLAINS DO HAVE, THEY, THEY MOVE, THEY'RE DYNAMIC. 
          THERE'S, UH, EROSION, THERE'S DEPOSITION. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD HAVE SOME IMPACT. 
          I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD NECESSARILY BE, WHETHER IT WOULD BE MORE EROSION OR DEPOSITION. 
          UH, MY THOUGHTS. 
          YEAH, THERE'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT, UM, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, EROSION, UH, EROSION ANALYSIS. 
          UH, BUT IT'S TRUE THAT, YEAH, WHEN YOU HAVE A VERTICAL WALL THERE, THE FLOODPLAIN IS NOW, YOU KNOW, A FOOT UP OR SO ON IT, THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR, UM, WELL, YOU'LL HAVE HIGHER VELOCITIES AND THAT IT'S A QUESTION OF, UH, UH, IF ANY ANALYSIS AND MAYBE SIDNEY KNOWS IF, UH, ANALYSIS WAS DONE TO SEE WHAT THE VELOCITIES ARE THERE OR, AND HOW STABLE IT WOULD BE, OR I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS DONE. 
          NO. 
          AND SO, AND DO, THERE MAY BE VELOCITIES THAT WERE CALCULATED IN THE FLOOD PLAIN MODEL THAT COULD INFORM THAT MM-HMM . 
          AND THE RATIONALE FOR PUTTING IN THE RETAINING WALL IS FOR ADDED PROTECTION F FROM, UH, THERE'S A LARGE DEVELOPMENT BEHIND IT. 
          IT'S THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IS ELEVATED, UH, ABOVE THE FLOOD PLAIN AS WELL, SO, OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT WAS TO TRY AND ELEVATE THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, OR AT LEAST TO BE HIGHER UP IN IT, SYDNEY COULD DESCRIBE KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          MAYBE YOU CAN SHOW THAT PICTURE THAT YOU CREATED. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH, OR THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN SHEET ITSELF THAT KINDA SHOWS THE WHOLE LAYOUT. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S THE PARKING UP ON TOP OF THAT NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S ABOUT EIGHT FEET HIGH. 
          SO IT'S JUST LIKE, UM, YEAH. 
          THE BORDER OF ITS OKAY. 
          ONE BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I GUESS, I MEAN, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE IMPACTS NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF EROSION, BUT ALSO JUST THE PLANTS THAT GROW THERE. 
          LIKE YOU SAID, TYPICALLY WE WOULD FIND COTTONWOODS OR SPECIES LIKE THAT ALONG, UM, RIVER BANKS OR STREAM STREAM BANKS. 
          AND WHEN YOU PUT IN A, WHATEVER IT WAS CONCRETE, UM, RETAINING WALL, LIKE I, I IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD AFFECT THE ECOLOGY OF THE AREA TOO, WHERE THE PLANTS THAT BEFORE WERE CLOSER TO THE WATER SOURCE ARE NOW ELEVATED FURTHER AWAY FROM IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT WILL BE RETAINING WALL AND THEN PARKING LOT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THOSE RIPARIAN PLANTS WOULD BE GONE FROM THAT AREA. 
          UM, HOWEVER, THE RESTORATION AREA WOULD REMOVE INVASIVES AND PUT BACK SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF PLANTS. 
          SO WE DON'T SEE COTTONWOODS NOW WITH THAT VEGETATIVE BENCH THAT JOHN WAS MENTIONING. 
          IT SHOULD, IN THEORY, INUNDATE MORE OFTEN AND SO COULD HELP SUPPORT MORE RIPARIAN, UH, TREES AND OTHER PLANTS, UM, THAT AREN'T THERE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ACTUALLY, THIS IS A GOOD SLIDE TO HAVE UP THIS STORMWATER PROTECTION. 
          IS THAT GOING TO COUNT FOR ALL OF THE PARKING SPACES AND LIKE THE, THE ELEVATED LEVEL? OH, THEY HAVE IT. 
          SO THIS IS THE, UH, OUTFALL FROM THE POND AND THEY HAVE STANDARD, UH, UH, SAID FILL, UH, THEY'RE MEETING THE SAID FILL REQUIREMENT FOR THEIR WATER QUALITY BONDS AND, UH, HAVE A DETENTION REQUIREMENT THAT THEY'RE MEETING ALSO FOR DISCHARGING FROM THE SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE YOU ALL GOING TO HAVE? UH, 276. 
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OKAY. 
          FOR HOW MANY UNITS? UM, , I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED THAT ONE UP TOO. 
          UH, WELL, 199, BUT, UM, IT GOES FROM ONE BEDROOM TO FOUR BEDROOMS, SO, UH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, LOOKING AT, AT THE PLAN ITSELF, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF PARKING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I DON'T WANNA MAKE LIFE MORE ONEROUS ON ANYONE, BUT, UM, AND THEN 32 OF THOSE LOVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          I'M REALLY BUMMED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING AND IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT THAT BRINGS. 
          SO THERE ARE NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR I KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE RATIONALE? LIKE CAN THAT NUMBER BE LOWERED AT ALL? UM, YEAH, WE HAD LOOKED INTO THAT, BUT IT WAS MORE BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE TEXAS QUALIFIED, UH, APP ALLOCATION PLAN, THE QAP REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND TYPICALLY THEY REQUIRE THE 1.5 SPACES PER UNITS FOR DWELLING UNITS FOR THE NON ELDERLY DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE KEPT IN MIND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THERE'S A STATE REGULATION THAT SUPERSEDES THE REMOVAL OF THE MANDATORY PARKING MINIMUMS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF IT SUPERSEDES, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE HAD WENT BY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, INTERESTING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT FOR THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YES. 
          I ASK FOR IT ALL THE TIME. 
          , UH, YOU'RE ONE OF THE VERY FEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'VE SEEN WITH IT. 
          I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE SO GREAT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. 
          AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THAT. 
          SO I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN IN THE AGENDA MEETING, I THOUGHT I RECALLED A NUMBER OF ASH JUNIPERS ON SITE, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT I FEEL LIKE I DIDN'T REALLY HEAR MENTION OF IT IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          'CAUSE LAG STRO, YEAH, LET'S TAKE 'EM OUT. 
          BUT THE ASH JUNIPERS, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, I WOULD GUESS THAT THEY'RE EASTERN JUNIPER THERE, BUT THEY MAY BE ASH JUNIPER, AND THOSE ARE GENERALLY FURTHER UP OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. 
          UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE BEING REMOVED OF THE ASH JUNIPER? MM-HMM . 
          OR EASTERN, WHICHEVER THEY MAY BE. 
          UM, I DO NOT. 
          DARCY . 
          YEAH. 
          I ALWAYS TRY NOT TO FALL ALL, THEY WON'T ALL BE REGULATED TREES EITHER. 
          'CAUSE A LOT OF 'EM WON'T BE EIGHT INCHES. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S PART OF MY CONCERN. 
          OH, GO AHEAD. 
          WELL, AND THEY'RE ALSO, UM, AS JOHN MENTIONED, MOSTLY OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          SO THESE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE IN THE UPLAND AREAS THAT ARE NOT TRIGGERING THE VARIANCE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GOT IT. 
          OH, SO BEYOND THE SCOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THE TREES, I DON'T HAVE, I AM, I'M DARCY EFFER, I'M THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT, AND I DON'T HAVE THE TREE PROTECTION PLAN PULLED UP. 
          UM, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO ANY LANDSCAPE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE OUTSIDE OF, UM, THE ONES THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I'LL JUST ADD WHAT I SAID TO THE LAST PROJECT, WHICH IS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE DENSE PLANTING, DENSE NATIVE PLANTING, GUILD PLANTING. 
          I WILL MENTION THAT THIS PROJECT IS A 100% NATIVE PLANT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          ANYONE ELSE? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LUKI. 
          I FINALLY THOUGHT OF A QUESTION, UH, REGARDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UH, HOW MANY, WOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE, OF THE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THREE BEDROOM, FOUR BEDROOM, REAL FAMILY ORIENTED UNITS? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? UH, YES. 
          UH, 35% FOR TWO BEDROOMS, 49% FOR THREE BEDROOMS, AND 8% FOR FOUR BEDROOMS. FANTASTIC. 
          AND THAT'S THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF THREE BEDROOMS I'VE EVER SEEN COME ACROSS HERE. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU DOWNTOWN. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. 
          WITH THAT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          MOVED, MOVED BY SULLIVAN, SECONDED BY BRIMER. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          ALRIGHT, I SEE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. 
          SO THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. 
          WE'RE NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO ANY THOUGHTS FROM THE GROUP BEYOND THE STAFF CONDITIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED? OKAY, WITH THAT, WE'LL HEAR THE MOTION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 2 0 2 6 0 1 0 4 DASH 2 0 2. 
          BERG MULTIFAMILY SP DASH 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 3 8 1 C SH. 
          WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE APPLICANT SIDNEY BAR WGI IS RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE REQUEST LOCATED AT 2204 EAST RUNDBERG LANE. 
          AND WHEREAS 
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THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE SITE IS LOCATED IN LITTLE WALNUT CREEK AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RE WALNUT CREEK WATERSHED IS PROBABLY MORE CORRECT, UH, WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE BERG MULTIFAMILY RATES REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. 
          THE STAFF CONDITIONS ARE RESTORATION OF 0.67 ACRES OF FLOOD PLAIN TO INCLUDE NATIVE SEEDING THROUGHOUT THE RESTORATION AREA. 
          INVASIVE PLANT REMOVAL THROUGHOUT THE RESTORATION AREA, PLANTING OF 0.22 ACRES OF THE RESTORATION AREA WITH NATIVE TREES AND SHRUBS TO IMPROVE CANOPY COVER INSTALLATION OF A A BUNCH GRASS HEDGE ROW AT THE STORMWATER OUTFALL TO REDUCE EROSION RISK AND FACILITATE INFILTRATION AND A PAYMENT OF $119,000 403, UH, $119,403 INTO THE RIPARIAN ZONE MITIGATION FUND. 
          IN ADDITION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION ARE A REDUCTION OF PARKING SPACES BY 5% AND THE USE OF WARM DOWNCAST LIGHTING WITH MOTION SENSORS AND ALL OUTDOOR LIGHTING AND OTHER BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGNS. 
          ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ALL SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LUKI. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, HEARING NONE, LET'S TAKE A VOTE. 
          WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE STARTING WITH CHAIR BRISTOL A KENS COMMISSIONER CHANG. 
          SET FOUR COMMISSIONER FLURRY FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER LUKI FOUR. 
          SECRETARY RESI FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER MORRISON FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER FIERRO FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER BRIMER FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER RETO LES FOUR. 
          AND I'LL ALSO VOTE FOR, SO THAT IS A TEN ONE OH VOTE. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL. 
          SO NEXT WE'RE 
          [4. Approve a recommendation to Council regarding the impact of data centers and their energy  consumption and water usage. Sponsors: Commissioners Fleury and Sullivan. ]
GOING TO GO TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. NUMBER FOUR, APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL REGARDING THE IMPACT OF DATA CENTERS AND THEIR ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND WATER USAGE FROM OUR VERY OWN COMMISSIONERS, FLURRY AND SULLIVAN. 
          WELL FIRST, UH, ALLOW ME TO APOLOGIZE, UM, FOR HOW WORDY THIS PRESENTATION IS. 
          I'M GONNA TRY TO SPEED THROUGH IT. 
          I GOT 33 SLIDES HERE AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE TEXT FROM DIFFERENT, UH, JOURNALS THAT ADDRESS THIS. 
          UH, SO THE VERY FIRST POINT HERE IS THAT, UM, AND ALSO LET ME POINT OUT TOO, THAT I GAVE THIS PRESENTATION A YEAR AGO TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT I'M A MEMBER OF, AND I'VE UPDATED IT AS BEST AS I COULD TO 2026. 
          BUT, UM, THIS IS A QUOTE FROM, UH, THE A PA, UH, ADMINISTRATOR, ADMINISTRATOR LEE, UH, ZELIN, IN WHICH HE SAID THAT, UM, AS WE RAPIDLY ADVANCE IN THIS AGE OF AI, IS IT IMPORTANT THAT THE US LEAD THE WORLD IN THIS FIELD? THOSE LOOKING TO INVEST IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AI SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO IN THE US WHILE WE WORK TO ENSURE DATA CENTERS AND RELATED FACILITIES CAN BE EMPOWERED AND OPERATED IN A CLEAN MANNER WITH AMERICAN MADE ENERGY UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LEADERSHIP. 
          I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE WILL BECOME THE AI CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. 
          SO, UM, THIS IS FROM THE HEAD OF THE EPA, UH, BEING IN FAVOR OF DATA CENTERS, BASICALLY. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M, HOW I, WHY I, I TITLED IT IRONICALLY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, UM, EZRA KLEIN, WHO WRITES FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES, UH, HAD WRITTEN A COUPLE OF ARTICLES ABOUT THIS AND I QUOTED HIM ON THIS. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT THE POINT IS, YOU GUYS GOT THIS IN YOUR BACKUP. 
          AND THE POINT IS, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ENTERING A NEW AGE IN HUMAN HISTORY. 
          THAT'S THE ONE QUOTE UP THERE. 
          I SHOULD HAVE UNDERLINED IT WITH AI. 
          AND ONE OF THE POINTS IS THAT SO MANY OF OTHER THINGS HAPPENED ON A VERY SLOW PACE, BUT THIS IS HAPPENING IN FRONT OF US, UH, AS, AS I SPEAK, CHANGES ARE HAPPENING. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND AGAIN, HE TALKS ABOUT THE FACT TOO THAT, UH, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE HERE WITH AI. 
          SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, CAME ALONG IN THE 20TH AND EARLY 21ST CENTURIES WERE PAID FOR BY THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. 
          SO LIKE THE SPACE PROGRAM AND, UM, EARLY DAYS OF THE MICROPROCESSOR AND LARGE SCALE AVIATION RADAR, GLOBAL GPS, ET CETERA, CAME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, BUT NOT AI. 
          UM, AI HAS COME FROM THE 
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COMPUTER COMPANIES AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, AND I LOVE THE QUOTE THERE, IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO LAY DOWN ELECTRICITY. 
          IT TOOK A REALLY LONG TIME TO BUILD RAILROADS. 
          AI IS COMING ALONG REALLY QUICKLY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, WE CAN SKIP OVER THIS. 
          THE POINT IS THOUGH, THAT HE DOES CREDIT THE PEOPLE IN TRUMP'S, UM, TRUMP'S, UH, HENCHMEN THAT THEY'VE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS. 
          UM, AND I'M SURE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO IT TOO. 
          BUT STILL THERE ARE, UM, A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT HOW MUCH ENERGY AND WATER WE'RE USING. 
          SO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THERE ARE THREE BOOKS THAT, UM, I'VE LOOKED AT ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE LITTLE, THERE'S SOME SUMMARIES HERE. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THIS, BUT, UM, THESE GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AI FIELD. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER GUY WHO I FOLLOW, UM, WHO TALKS ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON IN MODERN, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, AND I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS. 
          I GUESS I UNDERLINED, UM, THE LAST SENTENCE HERE. 
          FOR MANY PEOPLE, AI BECAME SYMBOLIC OF A WAYWARD AND OVER POWERFUL TECH INDUSTRY. 
          AND MANY PEOPLE WHO ADMITTED OR ENCOURAGED THE USE OF AI, ESPECIALLY IN CREATIVE FIELDS, WE'RE SUBJECT TO INTENSE CRITICISM. 
          AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT HEAVY INTO, UH, TECH, TECH FIELD. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, YEAH, SO I DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THIS EITHER. 
          WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          I WANNA GET TO THE DATA HERE. 
          OH, I THIS, LET ME JUST POINT OUT THIS LAST ONE. 
          UH, 'CAUSE IT'S RELATIVELY SHORT, IT'S AN OFF THE CUFF IN, IT'S AN OFF THE CUFF INTERVIEW AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE TOO MUCH OF IT, BUT I THOUGHT, AND I, THAT'S THE WRONG TWO UP THERE. 
          UM, BUT I THOUGHT I WAS, IT WAS INTERESTING THAT EZRA KLEIN'S IMMEDIATE ILLUSTRATIVE EXAMPLE DIDN'T INVOLVE A WAY THAT AI MIGHT REPLACE HIM, BUT A WAY THAT IT MIGHT REPLACE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR HIM. 
          WHATEVER ELSE YOU MIGHT SAY ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY, IT HAS A WAY OF MAKING PEOPLE THINK LIKE BOSSES. 
          IF YOU SAW THE AMERICAN STATESMAN TODAY, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, A LARGE TECH COMPANY HERE IN AUSTIN JUST LAID OFF A LARGE NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS, IN PART BECAUSE AI COULD DO THEIR JOBS. 
          I'M JUST GONNA POINT OUT THAT IT MAKES PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE BOSSES, NOT THINK LIKE BOSSES, RIGHT? SO THEN, UM, THIS, UH, ANOTHER, UH, ARTICLE THAT I READ WAS BY THIS GUY WHO TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU CAN HELP TO MITIGATE, PERHAPS WE CAN HELP TO MITIGATE CLIMATE CHANGE USING AI. 
          MAYBE AI CAN LEAD US INTO MAKING BETTER DECISIONS ABOUT CARBON REMOVAL OR, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER WAYS TO, UH, PRODUCE, UH, LAB GROWN MEAT, ET CETERA. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          IF I'M GOING TOO FAST, TELL ME. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I PUT A LOT OF, AND YOU GUYS GOT ALL THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON OUR, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          I PUT ALL THE URLS THAT I ACCESSED IN MOST OF MY SLIDES HERE. 
          AND SO THERE IS THIS SLIDE THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE DATA CENTERS ARE IN THIS AREA, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM ALL OVER AMERICA. 
          BUT THIS IS A PICTURE OF, UH, 54 DATA CENTERS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALL IN AUSTIN. 
          THEY RUN AS FAR NORTH AS KILLEEN AND AS FAR SOUTH AS, UM, I GUESS I, I FORGET HOW FAR SOUTH THAT, I CAN'T READ WHAT IT SAYS UP THERE. 
          BUT THE POINT IS THAT I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          I ZOOMED IN ON AUSTIN, AND THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHERE THE DATA CENTERS ARE IN AUSTIN. 
          AND THEN, UM, I ZOOMED IN AGAIN ON THE NEXT SLIDE TO ILLUSTRATE THAT CLUSTER. 
          THIS IS THE CLUSTER THAT WAS DOWN IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN, AND THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE MOST HEAVILY, UM, LOCATED DATA CENTERS AROUND, UH, JUST TO THE E JUST TO THE WEST OF, UM, A BIA. 
          AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM THERE. 
          AND THAT'S IN PART BECAUSE OF THE LAND IS FLAT AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE UTILITIES THAT THEY NEED. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, SO I HAVE A FRIEND OVER AT THE TEXAS COMPUTING CENTER. 
          I'M UP AT THE PICKLE RESEARCH CAMPUS AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME IS THE TEXAS ADVANCED COMPUTING CENTER. 
          AND, UM, 
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I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE ENERGY USE AND WHATNOT. 
          AND, UH, THE RESPONSE I GOT BACK WAS THAT, UH, FROM NATIONAL DATA THAT YOU'LL FIND HORRIFYING NEW DATA CENTERS FOR AI BUILT THIS YEAR ALONE. 
          AND THAT WAS IN 2020. 
          THAT 2025 WILL CONSUME 650 TERAWATT HOURS PER YEAR. 
          AND A TERAWATT HOUR IS A MILLION, UH, MEGAWATT HOURS. 
          THIS IS LIKE ADDING A NEW TEXAS IN TERMS OF POWER USE EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, MORE NEW DATA CENTERS WITH MORE COMPACT, DENSER PROCESSING SYSTEMS, UH, WILL CONSUME LESS SPACE, BUT THEY'LL STILL USE ENERGY AND WATER. 
          UM, MORE EMPHASIS, UH, IS GETTING ON IS, IS GETTING ONLINE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AS OPPOSED TO HIGHER EFFICIENCY OR GREENER RESOURCE USE. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PROBLEMS. NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, SOURCE WHERE YOU, THIS IS A COMPARISON BETWEEN HOW MANY DATA CENTERS THERE ARE BY COUNTRY. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE US HAS OVER 4,000 DATA CENTERS IN. 
          NEXT UP IS THE UNITED KINGDOM WITH, WITH 499. 
          SO WE'VE GOT ALMOST 10 TIMES MORE THAN THE NEXT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IN TERMS OF DATA CENTERS HERE IN THE US. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, SO THIS IS ANOTHER SOURCE I GOT TO ABOUT, UH, WATER USE. 
          UM, THE, UM, 24 7 OPERATION OF THESE DATA CENTERS. 
          THEY NEED TO RUN COOLANTS TO, UM, KEEP THE COMPUTERS, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO COOL THINGS OFF. 
          AND THEY DO GENERALLY, UH, REUSE THE WATER. 
          THEY USE A, IT'S NOT JUST PURE WATER. 
          THEY USE A A COOLANT, UH, IN IT ALSO. 
          BUT THE POINT IS THAT THE HEAT GENERATED FROM THE SERVERS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. 
          AND SO THEY USE A LOT OF WATER, BUT THEY TEND TO REUSE IT OVER TIME. 
          BUT GENERALLY THEY WILL LOSE THAT WATER AND THEN HAVE TO REPLACE IT. 
          AND THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE IN OREGON WHERE THERE WAS A LENGTHY LEGAL BATTLE ABOUT A GOOGLE DATA CENTER THAT, UH, WAS GONNA CONSUME A WHOLE LOT OF WATER. 
          AND THAT WHAT KEPT GOING UP AND UP AND UP AND, UM, THE, UH, I, I FORGET WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU CLICK ON THAT LINK, BUT THAT'S THE ARTICLE THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT BATTLE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THEN A FRIEND OF MINE AT AUSTIN ENERGY, UH, SENT ME THIS ABOUT ON WATER IMPACT DATA CENTERS USE A LOT OF POWER, WHICH DEPENDING ON TYPE USE, LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER LIKE NUCLEAR, UM, AND USE COOLING SYSTEMS THAT ALSO USE WATER. 
          THE AMOUNT PER DAY WILL VARY DEPENDING ON GENERATION SUPPLY, COOLING SYSTEMS AND SIZE, MORE EFFICIENT COOLING SYSTEMS ARE BEING TESTED AND IMPLEMENTED. 
          SO HE WAS A LITTLE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO I GOT THE DATA FROM ERCOT, THE ELECTRIC ELECTRIC RELIABILITY COUNCIL OF TEXAS ABOUT PEAK ENERGY USE BY YEAR. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENED IN, UM, IN, UH, THE TWO YEAR, THE TWO YEARS FROM, UH, 2021 TO 2023 WAS THE LARGEST JUMP IN TWO YEARS IN HISTORY OF TRACKING THIS. 
          AND, UM, I, I, BECAUSE BEING A MY DAY JOB, I'M A DATA ANALYST, I COULDN'T RESIST, YOU KNOW, DOING A REGRESSION ON THE DATA THERE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH STEEPER THE SLOPE IS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          SO I, I DIDN'T UPDATE THIS FROM WHEN I GAVE THE TALK ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THEN THIS SHOWS WHAT THE SOURCE OF THE GROWTH IS. 
          BUT THIS IS PROJECTING OUT INTO THE FUTURE. 
          AND SO WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT EARLY ON DATA CENTERS WERE VERY LOW, BUT THE LITTLE GRAY PART UP AT THE TOP IS DATA CENTERS. 
          AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE OTHER? CRYPTO? CRYPTO. 
          OH YEAH, WELL, CRYPTO, BUT WHAT'S THE VERY TOP ONE THERE? YEAH. 
          SO ANYWAY, THERE'S A BIG GROWTH IN OTHER AREAS THAT DIDN'T EXIST IN THE PAST AND OUR CONSUMER GROWTH IS RELATIVELY SLOW, BUT THE GROWTH IN THOSE, UH, TECH INDUSTRIES IS VERY RAPID. 
          UM, SO ANYWAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, TEXAS TRIBUNE HAS BEEN WRITTEN A LOT ABOUT THIS AND SO I QUOTED SEVERAL, I GOT SE SEVERAL QUOTES FROM, UM, THEIR, THEIR, UH, NEWSPAPER ABOUT, 
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UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT STORY WHEN NEW, UH, NE NEXT FEW SLIDES HAVE THIS ABOUT, UM, WHEN NEW DATA CENTERS WERE GONNA BE OPENED AND HOW MUCH ENERGY THEY WERE USING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, I JUST, AND ALSO THE AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL, JUSTIN SAYERS, WHO WRITES FOR THE AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL HAS BEEN TRACKING THIS VERY CLOSELY. 
          SO I CREDITED HIM FOR A LOT OF THE QUOTES THAT ARE IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. 
          YOU CAN GO THROUGH THESE AND YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEM IF YOU WANT LATER. 
          BUT, UM, THIS IS A ONE QUOTE ABOUT THEM PROLIFERATING THROUGH AUSTIN SUBURBS AS WELL AS IN AUSTIN. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, MORE ABOUT IT, UM, THAT AS THE LOCAL MARKET GROWS CHALLENGES SUCH AS THE AVAILABILITY OF ELECTRICITY AND WATER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, LAND AVAILABILITY, ET CETERA, PROBLEM BECOME PROBLEMS. UM, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE, HAVE PUT IN THEIR OWN LITTLE POCKET NATURAL GAS, UH, UH, AND, AND POWER PLANTS NEXT TO THE, UM, DATA CENTER. 
          AND SOME HAVE EVEN USED, UM, SMALL NUCLEAR PLANTS NEXT TO THE, TO THE DATA CENTER SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON SAY, AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          BUT NOT ALL OF THEM DO THAT. 
          AND SO IT'S PUTTING MORE OF A GRID ON OUR UTILITIES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UM, YEAH, SEE, I THANK JUSTIN FOR THIS, UH, THIS, UH, FROM HAVING QUOTED HIM IN SEVERAL OF HIS, UH, ARTICLES IN 2024, BUT NOW IT'S 2026. 
          SO MOVE ON. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER POINT, UM, THAT SHOWED HOW IT WAS, UM, THINGS WERE GROWING HERE, UH, WITH DATA CENTER RAPID CONSTRUCTION IN, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE MOST RECENT YEARS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, THIS IS SOME OF THE NEGATIVE POINTS ABOUT IT FROM, AGAIN, FROM JUSTIN SEA'S, AUSTIN ENERGY, I MEAN, UH, AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL ARTICLES ABOUT, UM, THE DATA CENTERS, UH, CARBON FREE SUPPLY, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, JUST GEN BURNING NATURAL GAS AND LETTING IT GO INTO THE ATMOSPHERE IS CARBON DIOXIDE OR THEY'RE RELYING ON AUSTIN ENERGY TO GENERATE, UM, ENERGY FOR THEIR DATA CENTERS AND, UM, THAT THE INCREASE IN GREENHOUSE GASES IS PROBLEMATIC. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND YEAH, THIS IS ANOTHER, THIS IS ONE OF THE NEW SLIDES I PUT IN FOR THIS TALK HERE. 
          UM, THE FACT THAT, UH, THE, THERE'S A WEBSITE NOW, DATA CENTER DYNA DYNAMICS IN WHICH YOU CAN FIND A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT DATA CENTERS. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, AN OLD SLIDE FROM MY TALK LAST YEAR ABOUT SIX NEW DATA CENTERS THAT WERE REPORTED IN THE AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE GROWING OUT INTO THE SUBURBS, WHEREAS THE MAP I SHOWED FOR THE EXISTING DATA CENTERS, AND NOW IN NOVEMBER OF 2025, THERE WAS A BIG CLUSTER OF THEM IN, DOWN IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN OR, YEAH, SOUTHEAST AUSTIN. 
          OKAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UM, YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE ANYMORE, THESE A BJ QUOTES. 
          UM, OKAY, SO THIS IS, UM, A POINT ABOUT THE, UM, WHY DID I PUT THIS IN HERE? THE AUSTIN INDUSTRIAL MARKET GROWTH. 
          UM, OH YEAH, WHY DID I PUT THIS IN? I FORGET. 
          LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          YOU CAN TELL I GAVE A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I MAKE UP, I MAKE UP SLIDES LIKE THIS FOR WORK ALL THE TIME. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THIS, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL END OF THIS PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTIONS WHERE WILL DATA CENTERS GET ELECTRICITY? SOME MAY USE THEIR OWN NATURAL GAS GENERATORS, BAD OTHERS MAY USE SMALL MODULAR REACTORS, UM, LIKE MINI NUCLEARS, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOOD, WHICH ARE SMALL AND SAFE ADVANCES IN BATTERY STORAGE, TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY ARE ALSO BEING MADE. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE, MANY OF THOSE ARE 
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AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. 
          HOW ABOUT WATER FOR COOLING? MOST USED CLOSED LOOP SYSTEMS WITH H2O, BUT ALSO AT PROPYLENE GLYCOL OR OTHER COOLANTS, BUT IN A CLOSED LOOP. 
          AND THEN THE QUESTION, BIG QUESTION IS, IS ANYONE IN CHARGE OF RESOURCE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OR PAYING ATTENTION? WELL, THAT WAS GONNA BE THE END OF MY TALK. 
          THEN THIS MORNING I GOT A COPY OF THE MARCH 27TH LA TIMES AND I GOT THREE SLIDES HERE FROM THIS WRITER, UH, TAMMY WEBER WHO WAS WRITING ABOUT, UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES THAT WE RELY ON, LIKE GOOGLE AND MICROSOFT AND, UM, A COUPLE OTHERS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, SIX YEARS AGO, GOOGLE WAS CONFIDENT THAT BY 2030, IT WOULD POWER ALL OPERATIONS WITH ELECTRICITY GENERATED FROM CLEAN SOURCES, INCLUDING WIND AND SOLAR POWER, AND REMOVE AS MUCH POLLUTION AS IT PRODUCED TODAY, IT CALLS THOSE GALL GOALS A MOONSHOT. 
          MICROSOFT SAYS IT'S STILL AIMING TO REMOVE MORE CARBON THAN IT CREATES BY 2030, BUT NOW DESCRIBES THE EFFORT, EFFORT AS A MARATHON, NOT A SPRINT. 
          THE RACE TO DEPLOY AI IS COMPLICATING TECH COMPANIES COMMITMENTS TO GREEN TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, MOST OF WHICH COME FROM BURNING OF GAS, OIL, COAL, AND DRIVE CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          THEY SAY THEY MUST BE FLEXIBLE AS THEY RUSH TO BUILD SPRAWLING DATA CENTERS THAT CAN CONSUME MORE POWER THAN ENTIRE CITIES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, TECH COMPANIES, UH, BOUGHT RECORD AMOUNTS OF CLEAN ENERGY IN 2024 AND 2025, ACCORDING TO THE CLEAN ENERGY BUYERS ASSOCIATION. 
          BUT THEIR TOTAL EMISSIONS ARE GOING UP OVER ROUGHLY THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF THEIR CLIMATE COMMITMENTS, GOOGLE'S EMISSIONS JUMPED 50%. 
          AMAZON'S ROSE 33%. 
          MICROSOFT'S MORE THAN 23%, AND METAS MORE THAN 60%. 
          DATA CENTERS USED 4.6% OF TOTAL US ELECTRICITY IN 2024. 
          A SHARE THAT COULD DOUBLE BY 2028. 
          TRIPLE, TRIPLE, YEAH. 
          SOME ANALYSTS PREDICT NATIONWIDE ELECTRICITY USE TO RISE AS MUCH AS 20% IN THE NEXT DECADE WITH DATA CENTERS BEING A BIG REASON. 
          NEXT, LAST SLIDE. 
          NEXT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE. 
          NUMBER 33. 
          GETTING ENOUGH ELECTRICITY WAS CHALLENGING EVEN BEFORE, WHAT'S HIS NAME? TOOK OFFICE LAST YEAR AND TOOK AIM AT RENEWABLE ENERGY. 
          HE'S CANCELED GRANTS AND PERMITS FOR SOLAR AND WIND PROJECTS AND TAX BREAKS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY, WHICH ADVOCATES SAY CAN BE BUILT LESS EXPENSIVELY AND MORE QUICKLY THAN NATURAL GA GAS OR NUCLEAR PLANTS, WHILE ORDERING THAT SEVERAL COAL FIRED POWER PLANTS SLATED FOR RETIREMENT, KEEP RUNNING. 
          MANY COMPANIES SET GOALS EXPECTING FEDERAL TAX CREDITS WOULD SUPPORT WIND AND SOLAR DEVELOPMENT, SAID RICH POWELL, CHIEF EXECUTIVE FOR THE CLEAN ENERGY BUYERS ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY WERE STRIPPED AWAY BY THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS AND TRUMP. 
          TRUMP, WHO HAS CALLED CLIMATE CHANGE A HOAX, HAS ARGUED THAT GREEN ENERGY IS UNRELIABLE AND EXPENSIVE AND COULD HARM NATIONAL ENERGY AND INDEPENDENCE. 
          SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT. 
          THERE YOU HAVE IT. 
          I MEAN, I PUT THIS TOGETHER. 
          I PUT THESE LAST THREE SLIDES TOGETHER TODAY BECAUSE I JUST GOT THE, I JUST SAW THE ARTICLE, UM, FROM FIVE DAYS AGO TODAY. 
          BUT, UM, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, THIS IS THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN AND THAT DATA CENTERS AND AI ARE JUST CONSUMING, GROWING AMOUNTS OF ENERGY AND WATER. 
          AND, UH, RICK, UH, PROPOSED, THEY WROTE UP A RESOLUTION, WHICH, UM, I THINK WE CAN ACT ON. 
          IT IS THE CASE THOUGH, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ALREADY DID TAKE SOME ACTION ON THIS, BUT NOTHING HAS REALLY COME OF IT. 
          AND SO THIS WOULD BE OUR CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, RESTART THE DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING AND SHOULD WE BE ASKING COMPANIES TO USE, UH, CLEANER FORMS OF ENERGY OR, UM, WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN ASK THEM TO DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS, I WANNA MAKE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, CHAIR, WE HAVE BOBBY LAVINSKY SIGNED UP FOR THIS ITEM. 
          BOBBY, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, BOBBY LAVINSKY, UH, ATTORNEY WOULD SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE. 
          UM, WANTED 
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TO SAY THANK YOU TO DR. SULLIVAN FOR, UH, RAISING THIS ITEM. 
          UM, I AM ALSO SPEAKING AS A SAN MARCOS RESIDENT WHO'S BEEN DEALING WITH THIS, UM, ON A DAILY BASIS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          UM, I ORGANIZED WITH THE DATA CENTER ACTION COALITION, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS, UM, GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS, I WAS THINKING, OH, WELL WE CAN TWEAK, UH, A CENTER HERE OR THERE, MAKE IT MORE WATER EFFICIENT. 
          AND IT REALLY WAS EYE-OPENING, JUST THE SCALE AND THE VOLUME OF THE PROBLEM. 
          UM, AND WE REACHED A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO PUT UP OBSTACLES AT EVERY POINT BECAUSE WE CAN'T HANDLE WHAT'S COMING TO US. 
          UM, LUCKILY WE WERE ABLE TO STOP ONE DOWN THERE BECAUSE WE HAD ZONING. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS WHAT, WHAT STOPPED THAT ONE. 
          UM, I WANNA JUST MENTION A COUPLE THINGS TO MAYBE ADD TO YOUR RESOLUTION. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE SEEN IT YET OR NOT, BUT, UM, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO LIKE, PARTNERING WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES AND COUNTIES, CITIES AND COUNTIES. 
          I'D ADD WATER DISTRICTS IN THERE. 
          UM, THAT'S BEEN, UH, A BIG PROBLEM. 
          THEY'RE TARGETING AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE THERE ARE SMALL WATER DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO HANDLE, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE EVEN THE STAFF TO REALLY, UM, MOUNT MUCH OF A FIGHT. 
          UH, I'D ALSO RECOMMEND THAT, UH, THE CITY SHOULD INCLUDE, UM, CONSIDER COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR LARGE SCALE, UH, SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW THAT ONLY HAPPENS OVER THE, THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE. 
          AND ME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT MORE EQUITABLE. 
          UM, BUT ALSO I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT, UH, WAYS TO TAILOR HOW MUCH WATER WE'RE GIVING AWAY, UM, INCLUDING A POTENTIAL BAN ON THE POTABLE WATER USE FOR COOLING TOWERS. 
          UM, TRANSPARENCY IS A HUGE ISSUE. 
          WE FILED PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST ON WATER SERVICE APPLICATIONS. 
          AND WHAT WE GET BACK IS THE EPSTEIN FI FILES VERSION OF, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST, ENTIRE BLACKED OUT PAGES UNDER HOMELAND SECURITY CONCERNS. 
          THEY'RE NOT TELLING US HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE GOING TO USE BECAUSE OF HOMELAND SECURITY. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT LEGAL STRATEGIES TO, UH, TO TAKE THAT ON. 
          UM, THE RESOLUTION MAKES A DISTINCTION BETWEEN LARGE SCALE DATA UNIT USERS AND SMALLER ONES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          THE ONES IN THE PAST WERE MUCH SMALLER. 
          THERE ARE ONE TO FIVE MEGAWATTS. 
          UM, MAYBE YOU'D GET UP TO A 20 MEGAWATT ONE. 
          THE ONES THAT ARE COMING ONLINE ARE, ARE BASICALLY HYPERSCALE AND THEY'RE USING UP TO 75 MEGAWATTS, A HUNDRED MEGAWATTS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S A, THEY'RE MUCH LARGER FACILITIES AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GOING TO THESE SMALLER COMMUNITIES AS WELL, WHERE THEY'RE, UM, THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LACK OF REGULATIONS. 
          UM, I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT, UH, ONE THING WE'RE DOING IN SAN MARCOS IS WE'RE PUTTING IN A DEFINITION IN THE CODE FOR DATA CENTERS, AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT APPLIED TO ONLY THE HIGHEST INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY AS A CONDITIONAL USE THAT CAN PUT AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION THAT CAN, UH, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MAYBE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, AND THEN ADDRESS OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, LET ME JUST END WITH ONE THING. 
          UM, THE NATIONAL SIERRA CLUB RECOMMENDED A REQUIREMENT FOR 75% COVERAGE ON ROOFTOPS FOR SOLAR PANELS. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THIS, THIS BODY MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AS WELL. 
          WE'RE HERE AS A RESOURCE IF THERE'S EVER, EVER YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT. 
          WE'VE GOT WAY MORE THAN, UM, POSSIBLE TO CONVEY IN THREE MINUTES. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR PUTTING THIS FORWARD. 
          WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT SOUNDS LIKE COMMISSIONER BRIER LARGELY WROTE, I KNOW OTHERS HAVE ADDED TO IT, UM, ADDITIONALLY FROM BACKUP. 
          SO I'M WONDERING IF WE WANT TO READ OUT WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITH SOME OF THE EDITS. 
          IS THAT OKAY? AND THEN COME BACK? WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          BE BEFORE WE REAPP. 
          SURE. 
          I WROTE IT UP BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THAT COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN PROVIDED PLUS ADDITIONAL STUFF I FOUND ON THERE. 
          AND I FELT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE PLACE TO START. 
          SO I BELIEVE IT CAN BE IMPROVED. 
          AND SO I'M OPEN. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS WAS JUST A KIND OF A STAKE IN THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS LIKE, UH, BOBBY LEVINSKY MENTIONED ABOUT DEFINITION OF DATA CENTERS. 
          UH, THERE'S ONE IN THERE THAT, UH, DESCRIBED THE SIZE. 
          MY DEFINITION IN HERE, UH, DESCRIBES TIER ONE, TIER 2, 3, 4 DATA CENTERS BASED UPON A INDUSTRY STANDARD. 
          BUT REGARDLESS, THERE ARE WAYS THAT I AGREE WITH BOBBY THAT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS ARE IMPORTANT. 
          THEY DEFINE WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT ADDS CLARITY TO THINGS. 
          BUT, UH, I KNOW THAT I SPOKE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORY ON THE PHONE TODAY. 
          HE ADDED A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THERE, WHICH I CIRCULATED AROUND AS WELL THAT, UH, I THINK NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED. 
          SO I'M INVITING PEOPLE TO ADD THEIR LITTLE BITS 
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OF STUFF IN THERE. 
          SO DO NOT BELIEVE FOR A MOMENT THAT WHAT I PUT IN THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL WORD. 
          IT WAS JUST A PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO GET THINKING AND, YOU KNOW, BE CREATIVE AT WHAT'S IN THERE. 
          I THINK IT CAN BE IMPROVED. 
          IT'S JUST EIGHT HOURS OF, UH, WAY TOO MANY, UH, CELSIUS . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK I WAS TIRED AND WAS JUMPING THE GUN A LITTLE BIT. 
          I WANNA GO AROUND FOR, FOR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. 
          SO I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER CHANG SAID, YEAH, I'M, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK, UM, I'M LIKE PRETTY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          UM, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY LIKE IMPACTING MY FIELD. 
          I'M A BIOLOGIST. 
          UM, I DO ALSO THINK THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT IN THE SLIDES, LIKE IT IS SO WEIRD TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS HUGE PUSH WITHIN BIOLOGY TO USE MORE AI AND IT'S INCENTIVIZED BY OUR GOVERNMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, FUNDING FOR A POST-DOCTORAL FELLOWSHIP, WHICH IS FUNDED BY NSF, UM, HAS BEEN CUT EXCEPT FOR THOSE BIOLOGY PROPOSALS THAT USE AI IN THEIR WORK. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY LIKE A WEIRD TIME. 
          UM, MY BOYFRIEND WORKS IN TECH AND HE HAD A MEETING JUST THE OTHER DAY WHERE THE CEO OF HIS COMPANY BASICALLY TOLD THEM, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT LEARNING HOW TO USE AI AND BASICALLY LEARNING HOW TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, THEN YOUR JOB IS IN DANGER AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PLACE IN THIS FIELD WITHIN A FEW YEARS. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I DEFINITELY, I FEEL LIKE  AI IS LIKE BREATHING DOWN MY NECK, LIKE AT HOME, AT WORK. 
          UM, AND MY MAIN CONCERNS ARE, ARE THE ENERGY GRID AND THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON WATER, WHICH ARE TWO THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE CONSTANTLY DEALING WITH HERE AS A COMMISSION. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          'CAUSE A HUGE PROBLEM IS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE, UM, A CLOSED LOOP, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE APPLYING HEAT TO WATER, THERE'S, UM, EVAPORATION THAT YOU CAN'T GET RID OF. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE 75%, UH, COVERAGE FOR SOLAR PANELS. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY COOL. 
          AND I'M, YEAH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING, UM, WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN UP. 
          'CAUSE YEAH, IT'S, UH, KIND OF SCARY. 
          COMMISSIONER FLURY, I JUST SAW A MOVIE CALLED THE THINKING GAME. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT. 
          IT WAS ABOUT AI'S USE IN SOLVING AND FOLDING OF PROTEINS. 
          UH, VERY EXCITING. 
          I THINK YOU MIGHT LIKE IT . 
          UM, IT DOES COOL STUFF. 
          YEAH, NO, IT, IT, IT, UM, JUST MAKES YOU CHERISH THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY ON THE GOOD SIDE TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. 
          IT, IT FOLLOWS SOMEBODY THERE. 
          SO IT'S, UM, IT ALSO WILL SCARE YOU. 
          UM, AWESOME , BUT IT JUST WAS A FOCUS ON AI AND BIOLOGY THAT I SAW, UM, LIKE A WEEK AGO. 
          UM, TO COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS, UH, TAKEN A, A FEW COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS ON THIS. 
          I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION REFERS TO AN APRIL, UM, RESOLUTION, UH, THAT, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HIGHLIGHT IS THEY MANDATE A REPORT, UM, FOR VARIOUS CITY, UM, PROGRAMS TO SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND PROJECTED IMPACTS OVER 10 YEARS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WANT TO BE AWARE OF AND HAVE A VOICE ON THAT. 
          I, I CAN IMAGINE THOSE PREDICTIONS, JUST SEEING HOW FAST THIS TECHNOLOGY IS GROWING, THAT A SINGULAR REPORT DONE NOW IS GONNA BE VERY DIFFERENT IF IT WAS TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS. 
          AND SO I WANNA LEAN INTO THAT REPORT AND ALMOST JUST USE IT AS A MECHANISM TO KEEP US INFORMED SO WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT'S CHANGING, WHAT WE'RE HEARING. 
          UH, AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS. 
          AND, UM, STRATEGIC PLANNING STANDS OUT. 
          SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD ABOUT BETWEEN COUNTIES, BETWEEN WATER DISTRICTS. 
          I THINK, UH, YOU POSED A QUESTION, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO? UM, OTHER THAN LIKE, THINK ABOUT WHERE THESE ARE LOCATED, YOU, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT'S THE STRAIN OF WHEN THEY'RE CONSOLIDATED TOGETHER ON THE WATER TABLE? UM, DO WE NEED TO SPREAD THEM OUT? UM, HOW IS IT LOOKING WHEN YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE INDUSTRY CORRIDORS. 
          SOUTHEAST AUSTIN I THINK HAS A FEW, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, AN EQUITY LENS 
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TO LOOK AT WHERE THESE ARE BEING PLACED IN THE EXTREME RESOURCE INTENSITY THAT IT'S HAVING ON THOSE SITES? SO I THINK I WAS RALLYING BEHIND STRATEGIC PLANNING, UM, COMMENT AND JUST THIS HEIGHTENED PUBLIC INTEREST. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S GOTTEN, UH, KIND OF QUESTIONS ON WHAT CAN WE DO TO SOLVE THIS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUR ROLE IN SLOWING DOWN THESE DATA CENTERS? YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD, OH, DELETE YOUR, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE PHOTOS WE HAVE STORED IN THE CLOUD. 
          YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PHOTOS DO WE HAVE OF US OUT THERE? THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO TURN AI. 
          I THINK I HEARD YOU SPEAKING ON THIS. 
          TURN AI OFF IN YOUR GOOGLE, GOOGLE SEARCH SO YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY 20%. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST STARTING TO HEAR THESE LITTLE WAYS. 
          IT FEELS LIKE THE INSURMOUNTABLE TASK OF RECYCLING. 
          LIKE IT'S REALLY ON THE INDUSTRY TO CHANGE, BUT WHAT'S OUR TINY ROLE OF REDUCING THESE DATA CENTERS? 'CAUSE WE NEED TO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A, A, A FIGHT IN THIS. 
          AND SO, UM, THIS MIGHT BE, AGAIN, A GOOD FORUM FOR THIS ANNUAL UPDATE TO HEAR LITTLE QUIPS ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THROW AWAY YOUR PHONE, WHICH SEEMS LIKE THE MAIN SOLUTION. 
          UM, THAT, THAT, THAT HOPE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IS A GOOD FORUM FOR HEARING LITTLE WAYS WE CAN HELP. 
          UM, . 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT HAS STOOD OUT TO ME IN RESEARCH, THERE WAS A, TEXAS IS LEADING THE WAY, RIGHT? WE ARE BY FAR, YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THAT POINT, BUT IT'S LIKE OVER THE TOP, UH, HOW MUCH MORE WE HAVE HERE. 
          SO THE, THE PROBLEM IS UNIQUE. 
          UM, AND THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THERE'S TO SAY ABOUT SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE OF DATA CENTERS. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S LARGE TRANSMISSION LINES AND ROADS CONNECTING ALL, ALL OF THEM. 
          UM, NPR HAD A REPORT FOR HOW MUCH, LIKE THE BUSINESS CATERPILLAR HAS PROJECTED OUT MULTIPLE DECADES NOW BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH CONSTRUCTION THEY'RE DOING OF DATA CENTERS THAT THE MARKET, YOU KNOW, IS LOVING THIS. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO SLOW IT DOWN. 
          UM, AND I, I KNOW SOME OF US ARE ALREADY TO SAY NO DATA CENTERS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THEY CLEARLY ARE, ARE, ARE HURTING THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT HOW DO WE STOP THEM? UM, THAT'S ALL. 
          JUST A FEW COMMENTS. 
          COMMISSIONER LUKI. 
          I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH HEAT THESE THINGS CREATE JUST AS A GENERAL RULE PER SQUARE FOOT OF THEIR EXISTENCE. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY CREATING? AND, AND, AND THE MITIGATION OF THAT IDEA OF THAT, OF THAT HEAT SEEMS TO BE ONLY ONE THING. 
          UH, TREES, PLANTING TREES THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT ANY OF THESE OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO BUILD, THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN THERE, THAT THEY NEED TO PLANT X NUMBER OF TREES PER SQUARE FOOT, UH, UH, THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THAT, THAT WE SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THEM THINK BEYOND THEIR DOLLARS AND CENTS AND, AND, UH, THINK ABOUT HOW IT IS THEY'RE AFFECTING, UH, UH, NOT ONLY THE PLACE WHERE THEY ARE BUILDING, BUT ALSO THE ENVIRONMENT ITSELF. 
          AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO ENCOURAGE, UH, GREENING OF THE PLANET IN ADDITION TO, UH, IN, IN ADDITION TO BUILDING THESE THINGS. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO STOP THEM. 
          I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SLOW THEM DOWN, UH, IN, IN ANY WAY WE CAN. 
          AND IF WE'RE FORCING THEM TO, TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE TO, TO GIVE BACK, UH, IN A WAY THAT THE PLANET REALLY COULD USE. 
          AND THAT IS CREATING MORE SHADE, ESPECIALLY  IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'VE GOT COMING AT US. 
          WARMEST MARCH EVER, I THINK JUST OCCURRED. 
          YEAH. 
          WARMEST FEBRUARY EVER JUST OCCURRED. 
          UM, THE, UM, WHAT IS IT THAT THERE'S A RECHARGE ZONE NOW THAT IS, UH, IN CRITICAL DROUGHT CONDITION. 
          NOW YOU DO THE MATH ON THOSE THINGS AND FIVE OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE IN REAL TROUBLE. 
          UH, SO I THINK ALSO WE NEED TO, JUST LIKE WE TALKED IN OUR LAST MEETING ABOUT HAVING A GOLF COURSE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ITS OWN WATER. 
          I THINK THESE GUYS NEED TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN WATER. 
          SO TREES AND WATER IS MY REACTION TO THIS. 
          COMMISSIONER MORRISON. 
          UM, I, WELL I, I'LL DISCLOSE FOR THE RECORD THAT I, UH, AM EMPLOYED BY META AND WORK IN POLICY AND A PORTION OF MY WORK IS DATA CENTER POLICY. 
          SO, UH, I SHOULD PROBABLY ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE, BUT I, 
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MY, MY TWO SORT OF REACTIONS AND NOTES TO THE PRESENTATION AND, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT NUCLEAR WAS A, LIKE, CORE PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION OR, OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT IT CAN BE, UM, LIKE PLAY A PIVOTAL ROLE IN THE TRANSITION TO A CLEANER, MORE RELIABLE MM-HMM . 
          UM, ELECTRIC GRID. 
          AND I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE RECOMMENDATION THAT, SO MAYBE WORTH INCLUDING THAT AS, UM, IN THE, IN THE BUCKET OF RENEWABLES AND YEAH. 
          CLEAN OPTIONS. 
          IT IS ONE OF THE FAST GROWING, UH, TECHNOLOGIES ABOUT HOW TO MINIATURIZE A NUCLEAR PLANT JUST TO PROVIDE POWER FOR ONE BUILDING. 
          AND SO, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANCEMENT IN THAT, WHICH DOES, NUCLEAR DOES ALSO REQUIRE A LOT OF WATER, I THINK, AS YOU, UM, NOTED. 
          BUT MAYBE EXPLORATION OF NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGIES THAT DO PRIORITIZE, LIKE NEXT GEN, UH, LIKE LOWER, UM, LOW WATER SORT OF COOLING TECHNOLOGIES. 
          SO THAT COULD BE CONSIDERATION. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER IS IT MAY, I MEAN, I, I I THINK THAT, UM, ESTABLISHING LIKE A FRAMEWORK FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OR FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO, UM, PARTNER WITH DATA CENTER OPERATORS TO, UH, ENCOURAGE THEM TO INVEST IN MODERNIZING THE GRID, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK I SAW MENTIONED IN THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT COULD BE INTERESTING TO CONSIDER. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I, I KNOW YOU'RE NEW. 
          UM, IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, WHAT WE DO IS WE USUALLY INDICATE THAT ON THE SIGN IN FORM AND THEN WHEN THAT ISSUE COMES UP, THAT PERSON TYPICALLY STEPS OUTSIDE UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THE VOTE. 
          UM, I DID NOTE IT ON THE SHEET. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BUT I WASN'T SURE WHAT THE PROTOCOL WAS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, NO WORRIES. 
          UM, SO MAYBE JUST WHEN THE VOTE HAPPENS, IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON RECUSING RECUSING, YOU CAN STEP OUT FOR THAT PART. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER FIRO. 
          UM, YEAH, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 'CAUSE UM, MY HUSBAND IS THE ENERGY REPORTER STRAIGHT AIR NEWS. 
          SO I'M LIKE, I HEAR ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME, UH, . 
          AND, BUT ALSO SINCE, UH, AS PART OF LIKE MY ORGANIZING WORK, HE GOES AS A REPORTER AND I GO AS THE ORGANIZER. 
          SO I FEEL LIKE, UH, ONE THING THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IS ALSO, UH, NOISE POLLUTION, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE CLOSEST TO IS THE FOLKS IN REBURY, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF, UH, SOUTH DALLAS. 
          AND IT WAS PRETTY BAD. 
          UM, IT'S AN AREA THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY RURAL, UH, SO IT HAS A LOT OF VEGETATION AND THEY BASICALLY JUST MOVED IN 'CAUSE TEXAS IS PRO, UH, INDUSTRY. 
          AND NO ONE WAS GIVEN A HEADS UP, NOTHING. 
          NOW THEY'RE EXPANDING. 
          UM, AND THE NOISE WAS SO BAD THAT, UH, EVERYONE'S PETS WERE LIKE, THEIR HAIR WERE FALL WAS FALLING OFF. 
          OF COURSE, YOU HAVE VETERANS WHO THAT'S A CAUSE OF PTSD UH, RESPONSES. 
          AND SO THAT'S LIKE ANOTHER BIG THING. 
          AFTER THEY ADVOCATED FOR LIKE, AT LEAST HAVING SOME TYPE OF NOISE CONTROL, THEY GOT JUST THIS BIG, UH, BULKY WALL THAT ONLY COVERS LIKE A CORNER OF IT. 
          AND LIKE, IT DOES REDUCE SOME OF THE NOISE, BUT IT'S JUST UGLY AND IRRELEVANT. 
          AND THEY GOT THE WALL AS THEY WERE ALSO GETTING THE NEWS THAT IT WAS GONNA BE EXPANDED TO HAVE LIKE THREE OTHER, UH, IT'S CALLED WOOD HOLLOW. 
          UH, SO NOW THERE'S LIKE TWO OTHER UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY. 
          SO, YEAH, JUST, UH, JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FROM WHAT I KNOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WELL, I GUESS COMM COMMISSIONER BRIAN ALREADY GAVE YOUR 2 CENTS. 
          DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, UH, BASED UPON WHAT HAS COME AROUND, UM, I BELIEVE MAYBE A YEAR AGO WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS GOING TO, UH, MODIFY A PUD THAT HE HAD. 
          AND I ASKED A QUESTION 'CAUSE HIS ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO BUILD A SURFACE, UH, SOLAR, UH, ARRAYS. 
          AND HE SAID HE WASN'T GONNA DO THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE SURFACE SOLAR ARRAYS, YOU KNOW, MOUNTED ON THE GROUND WAS COUNTED BY THE CITY AS IMPERVIOUS COVER COVERED. 
          SO I THINK WE MAY NEED TO RETHINK THAT. 
          NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO THAT 
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SUPERFICIALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF A DATA CENTER WHERE THE ALTERNATIVES ARE WORSE THAN IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM SOLAR CELLS, MAYBE AN EXCEPTION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT PARTICULAR THING. 
          UH, I DIDN'T MENTION POWER ON PURPOSE BECAUSE, AND THIS IS A, A, A THING, THIS IS A ME THING. 
          YOU CAN GET POWER ANYWHERE. 
          SOME WAYS OF GENERATING POWER ARE MORE OBNOXIOUS THAN OTHERS. 
          UH, BUT YOU CAN GENERATE ELECTRICITY LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MENTION NUCLEAR ENERGY AND THEY TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE THE SIZE OF A, YOU KNOW, A A MF AND RADIO AS BEING A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. 
          I'VE SEEN ONE OF THOSE YET. 
          BUT THOSE ARE THE TALK OF, UH, EVERYONE. 
          AND, UH, WHAT WHAT I DO REMEMBER IS, UH, THROUGH MY ISLAND, UH, THE TENNESSEE VALLEY AUTHORITY, F*K JIMA, AND ALL THESE THINGS WHERE, UH, WE HAVE THESE ACCIDENTS AND WIDE SWATHS OF THE PLANET ARE GONNA BE UNINHABITABLE BECAUSE OF NUCLEAR ACCIDENTS BY PIMA. 
          UH, I REMEMBER IN THE EIGHTIES WHEN REAGAN WAS PRESIDENT AND HE WAS ADVOCATING NUCLEAR POWER, AND A COMPLAINT WAS THERE WAS NO PLACE TO STORE THE WASTE. 
          AND HIS ARGUMENT WAS, WELL, IF YOU CONCENTRATED ALL THE NUCLEAR WASTE, IT COULD BE PUT IN A CUBE UNDER HIS DESK. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, HEY, GO FOR IT. 
          PUT IT ALL UNDER HIS DESK. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH DISPOSING OF NUCLEAR WASTE. 
          SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY IT'S CLEAN ENERGY, IT'S LIKE, WELL, YEAH, YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN YOUR HOUSE, IT'S PERFECTLY CLEAN UNTIL IT'S IN YOUR HOUSE. 
          BUT I'M NOT GONNA GO DOWN THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS KIND OF WHY I DIDN'T MENTION THE SOURCE OF THE POWER, BECAUSE YOU QUICKLY GET INTO PREJUDICES. 
          PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          MY CONCERN IN CENTRAL TEXAS IS THE WATER, KIND OF LIKE COMMISSIONER FLURY MENTIONED AND OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE. 
          ONCE YOU USE THE WATER, IT'S GONE. 
          YOU CAN'T REGENERATE WATER. 
          YOU CAN DECIDE ON NUCLEAR POWER, GAS POWER, COAL POWER. 
          YOU CAN DO SOLAR, WIND, WHATEVER IT IS, AND HAVE POWER. 
          THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS TO GET POWER. 
          ONCE YOU DRY UP AN AQUIFER, IT'S GONE FOREVER. 
          IT'S NOT COMING BACK IN ANYONE'S LIFETIME. 
          OKAY? YOU DROP THE HIGHLAND LAKES, IT'S GONE. 
          NO DRINKING WATER, YOU CAN'T WATER YOUR PLANTS, YOU'RE DONE. 
          SO MY PERSONAL ISSUE IS THE WATER CONSUMPTION. 
          SO OUT OF ALL THIS STUFF, IT'S WATER PRESERVATION IS THE KEY ITEM PERSONALLY TO ME AND HOW WE DO THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY I, I, YOU KNOW, I LEAN ON STUFF. 
          SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO. 
          BOBBY MENTIONED WATER DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THE SMALLER ONES AND ROPING THEM IN. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO, TO PUT IN THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REASON I, YOU KNOW, I PUT IN THERE NOTIFYING PEOPLE A MILE AWAY. 
          CITY CODE REQUIRES WHENEVER YOU DO A ZONING CHANGER STUFF 500 FEET FROM THIS THING, WELL, AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, UH, THE SOUND GOES A MILE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA GET PEOPLE NOTIFIED IF ONE OF THESE SUCKERS IS GOING IN A LOT FURTHER AWAY THAN PUTTING UP A BUILDING OR A SHOPPING MALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          I CALL OUT NOISE REGULATIONS. 
          WE GOTTA BE REALLY AGGRESSIVE WITH THIS. 
          THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. 
          THAT THING ELON MUSK PUT UP IN MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE WITH THE PORTABLE GENERATORS, YOU KNOW, THE GAS GENERATORS, IT WASN'T JUST THE POLLUTION, IT WAS THE NOISE FROM THEM AS WELL. 
          THAT WAS ANNOYING PEOPLE. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES IN HERE THAT I TRIED TO COVER. 
          I DON'T CLAIM IT'S ALL COMPREHENSIVE, BUT I TRIED TO HIT ON WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE MAJOR ONES. 
          BUT THIS IS WHY I DIDN'T ADDRESS THE POWER, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, TO ME, A PERSONAL ISSUE ABOUT, LIKE, I REALLY, I HATE TO SAY I WANT COAL MORE THAN NUCLEAR, BUT NUCLEAR WITH A HALF LIFE OF A COUPLE OF MILLION YEARS, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF FOREVER. 
          YOU KNOW, I CAN CLEAN COAL OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE SMOKES STACK. 
          TOXIC WASTE CHAIR IS, UH, 
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CHAIR FOR YOUR REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA JUMP IN. 
          I WANNA REMIND THE COMMISSIONER WE HAVE 10 MINUTES LEFT AND WE STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF GROUND TO COVER. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER RETA OR DIAL? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU SECRETARY RESI. 
          UM, YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE LONG MAINTAINED THE VIEWPOINT THAT WE SHOULD BE SINKING THE DATA CENTERS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN OR SHOOTING THEM OFF INTO SPACE. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BEYOND MY PAY GRADE. 
          UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION AFTER WATCHING THAT PRESENTATION IS WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DATA CENTERS IN THE UNITED STATES? YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I CAN SPEAK FOR TEXAS, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST A HORRIFICALLY CORRUPT STATE THAT WILL CONSTANTLY BEND OVER, UH, FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S BOTTOM LINE. 
          UM, BUT IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THE UNITED STATES HAS SO MANY MORE DATA CENTERS THAN, SAY, A COUNTRY LIKE CHINA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, ANY ANSWERS, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, SINCE YOU SEEM TO BE THE DOMAIN EXPERT OR COMMISSIONER MORRISON SINCE YOU SEEM TO DO THIS FOR YOUR DAY JOB?  ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA, REAL QUICK, UM, BEFORE COMMISSIONER MORRISON, UM, ANSWERS THAT, I, I, I DO THINK, UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA ABSTAIN FOR THIS, YOU YOU PROBABLY NEED TO GO AHEAD AND STEP OUT. 
          SO I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION OF IS IF IT'S A RECUSAL OR AN ABSTENTION, IF, UH, PLANNING ON ABSTAINING YOU CAN STAY. 
          IF YOU'RE RECUSING BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO LEAVE. 
          WHAT DO YOU GUYS RECOMMEND? WOULD YOU GET IN TROUBLE TOMORROW IF THEY KNEW YOU WERE IN THE, IN THIS DISCUSSION? I COULD ALSO ALSO BLANK IN THE VOTE A MONETARY INTEREST TOO. 
          LIKE IF YOU, YOU PERSONALLY COULD EITHER COULD BE IMPACTED MONETARILY BY THIS VOTE, THAT CAN BE ANOTHER BAROMETER, BUT NOT FOR US TO SAY, FOR YOU TO SAY. 
          THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES TO THAT ON THE ATTENDANCE SHEET, UM, ON THE BACK OF IT, IF YOU WANNA READ IT REAL QUICKLY, BUT I'LL, I'LL JUST STEP OUT FOR THE NEXT FEW MINUTES. 
          YEAH, THAT MIGHT AS WELL JUST LEAVE AT THIS POINT. 
          , IT'S EIGHT MORE MINUTES. 
          DID YOU SIGNED? OKAY. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO SECRETARY RESI, I THINK WAS ASKING A QUESTION OF COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN. 
          YES. 
          WELL, NOW COMMISSIONER MORRIS IS PERSONA NON GRATA FOR THE NEXT, UH, UNTIL THE NEXT, UH, COMMISSION MEETING. 
          SO I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'VE JUST BEEN SUCH A LEADER IN TECHNOLOGY IN MANY FIELDS, THAT THAT'S WHY THE US IS OUT IN FRONT. 
          YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, CHINA'S SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS TOO, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT BUILDING AS MANY DATA CENTERS AS WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE A, I THINK A COMPARABLE LANDMASS. 
          I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY GEOGRAPHICALLY HOW BIG IT IS, BUT I MEAN, A LOT OF THOSE COMPANIES THAT I MENTIONED THERE, META, UH, MICROSOFT, UH, GOOGLE, ET CETERA, ARE HOUSED IN, IN THE US AND SO THAT'S PARTLY WHY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UH, HAD THIS ARTICLE THAT, UH, HAS LIVED RENT FREE IN MY BRAIN SINCE, UH, I READ IT. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY AN ARTICLE FROM LAST YEAR WHERE A TWITTER, UH, COMMENTATOR SAID, I WONDER HOW MUCH MONEY OPEN AI HAS LOST IN ELECTRICITY COSTS FROM PEOPLE SAYING, PLEASE, AND THANK YOU TO THE, UH, LLMS. AND, UH, THE CEO OF OPENAI ACTUALLY COMMENTED TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WELL SPENT BECAUSE YOU'D NEVER KNOW, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, UM, LET'S JUST SAY ANYWHERE FROM LIKE ONE FIFTH TO ONE 10TH OF ALL THE DATA CENTERS, UH, IN THE COUNTRY, UH, OR JUST, YOU KNOW, BY OPEN AI OR IN TEXAS, RIGHT? THAT MEANS THAT IN TEXAS WE WILL HAVE POTENTIALLY SPENT ANYWHERE FROM $500,000 TO A MILLION DOLLARS TO, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UH, ON ELECTRICITY, UH, YOU KNOW, AND OTHER UTILITIES JUST FROM STUFF THAT'S RELATIVELY MEANINGLESS, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR PEOPLE OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK OF AI AND DATA CENTERS, YOU KNOW, WE THINK, OH, WE'RE SOLVING THIS PROBLEM OR WE'RE HELPING THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD. 
          BUT A LOT OF IT IS JUST LIKE PEOPLE MAKING VIDEOS OF LIKE CATS, UH, BEING NINJA TURTLES, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF, UH, MONEY AND UTILITIES THAT'S, UM, BEING WASTED ON FRIVOLOUS THINGS. 
          SO CERTAINLY THIS IS, UH, AN ISSUE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO PLAGUE, UH, HUMANITY MOVING FORWARD. 
          CHAIR BRISTOL. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M GONNA TAKE A STAB AT THE, UM, THE QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHY DOES THE US HAVE SO MANY, UM, DATA CENTERS? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ANSWER IS, UH, OTHER COUNTRIES VALUE THEIR FARMLAND. 
          UH, THEY VALUE FEEDING THEIR POPULATION. 
          CHINA ESPECIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE 
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REALLY PUT A CLAMP DOWN ON, UH, WHAT CAN BE BUILT, WHERE IT CAN BE BUILT, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, UH, SUCH A HIGH NEED TO FEED THEIR, FEED THEIR POPULATION. 
          UM, AND, UH, OTHER COUNTRIES ESPECIALLY THAT ARE LISTED ON THIS LIST RIGHT HERE, UH, ARE ARE EQUALLY THE SAME IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          UH, WE DON'T CARE. 
          UH, WE, WE THINK THAT WE HAVE, UH, ABUNDANT AND ENDLESS FARMLAND, UH, BUT WE DO NOT. 
          AND, UM, ALONG WITH THAT, WE THINK WE HAVE ABUNDANT AND ENDLESS WATER, AND WE DO NOT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND, AND OF COURSE THEN THERE'S, THERE'S THE, THE MONEY BEHIND IT. 
          UM, I, UH, I, I, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU DEEPLY TO COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN AND COMMISSIONER FLORY FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR COMMISSIONER BRIMER, UH, FOR, UH, WRITING, UH, A RESOLUTION. 
          I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE, UM, ALL OF THAT. 
          UH, UNFORTUNATELY, TECH IN TEXAS, UH, MOST OF THE, UM, BIG TECH COMPANIES, UH, HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO BUILD OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, UH, IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND UNTIL THE COUNTIES GET SOME SORT OF REGULATORY, UH, AUTHORITY, THEN WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, ISSUES WITH THIS. 
          UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY MAYBE THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL GROW UP HERE, UH, AND ADDRESS THESE THINGS, UH, AS THEY COME UP SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT OUR FARMLAND AND PROTECT OUR FARMERS, UM, AS, AS WELL. 
          UH, I WANNA, UM, ALSO REITERATE, UM, THE, THE CONCERN WITH NOISE POLLUTION. 
          UM, THESE THINGS ARE, ARE, ARE TERRIBLE FOR NOISE POLLUTION AND, UM, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE IN A RURAL AREA OR THEY'RE IN AN URBAN AREA, UM, THEY ARE LOUD. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY LIVE NEAR ONE. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE AT, AT THE CORNER OF BREAKER IN THE MAR. 
          UM, AND IT, UH, IT'S NOT AS NOISY AS SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT I'VE VISITED, BUT IT'S QUITE LOUD. 
          UM, I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, UH, TO CONSIDER IN THIS, UM, MOTION, UM, IS, UM, UNDERSTANDING OR RECOMMENDING THAT DATA CENTERS BE BUILT VERTICAL, UM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS INSTEAD OF A SPRAWLING DATA CENTER. 
          UM, THE LAND USE OF, UM, FOR THAT, IT'S JUST, UM, IT, IT'S NOT OKAY. 
          UM, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY, THEY CAN CERTAINLY BE BUILT VERTICALLY, UM, AND, AND ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES OF, OF HEAT AND WATER AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, IT'S JUST THAT LAND IS MORE EXPENSIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS THAN IT IS IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE, IIII, I KIND OF, MY PREDICTION IS, IS THAT, UM, THE NEW ELON MUSK, UH, DATA CENTER WILL BE JUST OUTSIDE THE ETJ, BUT THAT'S THE JEN BRISTOL PREDICTION ON THAT ONE. 
          UM, ANYWAY, I, I JUST WANNA SAY DEEP THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IT AND, AND THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          I'M ALSO GONNA MAKE A MOTION, UH, REALLY QUICK TO EXTEND OUR MEETING TO NINE 15 BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO VOTE ON OFFICERS 10 15. 
          10 15. 
          HOW ABOUT 10 15? YEAH. 
          IS THAT ABOUT IN TIME? HOW ABOUT, YEAH. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          HOW ABOUT 10 15? OR WE GO BACK IN TIME? EITHER ONE SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AS SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10 15? RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          THAT IS UNANIMOUS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MEETING TIME EXTENDED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WITH THAT, I'LL JUMP IN. 
          I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF. 
          SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT DATA CENTERS POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO HUMANITY, TO OUR SURVIVAL, TO OUR WORKFORCE, TO OUR OWN BRAIN POWER, TO OUR WATER SUPPLY. 
          I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HOW TERRIFYING AND DANGEROUS THIS IS. 
          AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN IN YOUR REPORT TALKING ABOUT HOW RAPIDLY THIS IS HAPPENING. 
          WE'VE ALREADY SEEN HOW OUR REGULATORY BODIES HAVE NOT KEPT PACE WITH TECHNOLOGY. 
          THIS IS SURPASSING ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN BEFORE. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO ACT NOW AND WE HAVE TO ACT BOLDLY. 
          SO I PERSONALLY SUPPORT THE NATIONAL BIPARTISAN CALLS, UM, AND THE FEDERAL BILL THAT'S BEEN PUT FORWARD BY SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS AND CONGRESSWOMAN A OC TO INVOKE A MORATORIUM ON ALL NEW DATA CENTERS. 
          I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR US TO TRY AND TIPTOE AROUND, WELL, IF YOU BUILD VERTICALLY, WELL, IF YOU DO THIS, NO, NO NEW DATA CENTERS, PERIOD. 
          WE KNOW ENOUGH. 
          WE KNOW ENOUGH THAT THIS IS A CRISIS. 
          WE'RE ALREADY UNDERWATER WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND THOSE ALREADY SLATED FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO I THINK MY FEELING IS WHATEVER WE HAVE HERE CAN BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE DATA CENTERS THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE TO TRY AND KIND OF CATCH UP. 
          AND THEN I SUPPORT ADDING AS A LAST LINE IN ALIGNMENT WITH BIPARTISAN NATIONAL CALLS, INVOCA MORATORIUM ON ALL NEW DATA CENTERS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, CITY LIMITS AND THE ETJ, 
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OF COURSE, I WOULD SAY THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IF THAT WERE OUR JURISDICTION. 
          BUT, UM, ALSO A LOT OF GRATITUDE TO YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT. 
          UM, SOMETIMES QUITE LITERALLY. 
          'CAUSE THEY ARE NOISY. 
          UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YES, I DO HAVE ONE, ONE MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A FEELING THAT COUNTIES HAVE NO LEVERAGE BECAUSE OF LACK OF SONY, BUT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY TRUE. 
          ELON MUSK BUILT HIS LITTLE FACTORY OUT IN TRAVIS COUNTY LARGELY BECAUSE HE GOT TAX BREAKS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I PUT IN HERE IS DON'T GIVE THESE PEOPLE TAX BREAKS. 
          THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE STATE IS FAMOUS FOR TRYING TO ATTRACT BUSINESS BY GIVING THEM TAX BREAKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOW THE TRUTH IS, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT SAY THEY'RE GONNA BRING ALL THIS MONEY TO YOU. 
          WELL, IN REALITY, THE MONEY FROM A DATA CENTER IS, WELL, YOU BUILD IT AND THEN EVERYONE GOES HOME AND THEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE BUILDING PEOPLE GO HOME. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF DOZEN PEOPLE WHO MAN IT ON A 24 BY SEVEN BASIS. 
          SO REALLY THE LABOR THAT YOU GET, THE INCREMENTAL DOLLARS YOU GET OUT OF THIS, THAT FUND SCHOOLS AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, CLEAN STREETS, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING IS SMALL. 
          AND IF YOU GIVE THEM TAX BREAKS, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY TAXES, THEN YOU'RE GIVING AWAY ALL THAT INCREMENTAL MONEY THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GET BECAUSE YOU LET THEM BUILD THIS GARGANTUAN BUILDING AND YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA GET THIS MONEY. 
          WELL, IF YOU DON'T GIVE PEOPLE TAX BREAKS, THEN THE INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO BUILD IN TRAVIS COUNTY ANYWAY GOES AWAY FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          NOW WE CAN'T STOP THE STATE FROM GIVING THEIR MONEY AWAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NOT OUR PROBLEM. 
          WE CAN MANAGE WHAT WE CAN MANAGE. 
          WHAT WE CAN MANAGE IS STOP, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL CAN STOP GIVING AWAY TAX BREAKS THAT WILL DO MORE TO DRIVE THIS BUSINESS AWAY FROM HERE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. 
          IF WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO QUIT GIVING TAX BREAKS, THAT WILL PUSH THE BUSINESS OUT OF TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          SO THE COUNTY HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE LEVERAGE INDIRECTLY THAN WE THINK AND I'VE TALKED TO MM-HMM. 
          AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE STICKING THOSE TO ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL HAVE A LOT TO SAY ON IT, BUT I AM JUST MINDFUL OF THE TIME. 
          UM, I WANNA KIND OF STAY FOCUSED ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR TONIGHT. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, AND GIVEN THE ALIGNMENT THAT I'M HEARING IN OUR COMMENTS, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD, UM, AND HEAR THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          INVITE COMMISSIONER FLURRY TO READ IT BECAUSE I KNOW HE HAD A HAND IN IT. 
          THE, IT IT IS IN BACKUP. 
          UM, SO I THINK WE CAN SKIP ALL THE WHERE AS IS THE NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED IS LARGELY THE SAME, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF ADDITIONS MADE AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING. 
          SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND READING FROM THE NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED. 
          THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE FOLLOWING POLICIES, MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY, CONSISTENCY WITH COUNCIL RESOLUTION 2 0 2 4 2 15 2 4 AND 2 2 5 4 2 4 5. 
          AND RESOLUTION CONSIDERED DURING THE APRIL 24TH, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING, ESTABLISH WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH ADJACENT COUNTIES, WILLIAMSON, BASTROP, CALDWELL, HAYES BLANCO, AND BURNETT CITIES, BUTTA, CEDAR PARK, VILLE, GEORGETOWN ROUND ROCK, TAYLOR, ELGIN, AND WATER DISTRICTS TO DEVELOP CONSISTENT POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND STRATEGIC PLANS TO MANAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OPERATION AND GROWTH OF DATA CENTERS WITHIN CENTRAL TEXAS. 
          PUBLISHED THE REPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER REQUESTED IN APRIL, 2025 OF THE PROJECTED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND RESOURCE USAGE OF LOCAL DATA CENTERS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          AND PRESENT THE REPORT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REQUIRE TIER TWO AND HIGHER DATA CENTERS TO GENERATE POWER ON SITE VIA RENEWABLE RESOURCES, WHICH MAY INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO SOLAR, WIND, AND BATTERY POWER. 
          THE POWER GENERATED SHOULD AMOUNT TO AT LEAST 50% OF THE AMOUNT NECESSARY TO OPERATE DATA CENTER. 
          REQUIRE DATA CENTERS TO CURTAIL OPERATIONS DURING PERIODS OF ELECTRICAL EMERGENCY AS DECLARED BY THE GOVERNOR OR THE STATE OR LOCAL AUTHORITIES. 
          MANDATE COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR LARGE SCALE EXTENSION REQUESTS. 
          DEFINE DATA CENTER AND CITY CODE MANDATE 75% SOLAR POWER COVERAGE ON ROOFTOPS, RECYCLE WATER FROM AQUIFERS. 
          PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS AND RAINWATER CAPTURE REQUIRE THE DATA CENTER TO USE 
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RECLAIMED WATER AND INVEST DIRECTLY INTO EXPANDING THE CITY'S PURPLE PIPE PROGRAM VIA THE OPERATION OF A WATER USE MITIGATION FUND. 
          OR SIMILAR COMPLY WITH NIGHT SKY AND BIRD FRIENDLY REGULATIONS REQUIRE MITIGATION EFFORTS TO OFFSET EXCESSIVE HEAT PRODUCTION FROM DATA CENTERS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, REQUIRE TREE PLANTING IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TO INCREASE CANOPY COVER. 
          COMPLY WITH CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          NOISE REGULATIONS REQUIRE AUSTIN ENERGY TO COORDINATE DATA CENTER SUPPORT WITH OTHER UTILITIES WITHIN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO BLUEBONNET ELECTRIC. 
          RELIANT ENERGY, TXU ENERGY. 
          CENTRAL TEXAS ELECTRIC CO-OP AND PAYLESS POWER REQUIRE PLANS FOR HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL PLANS FOR POWER PLANTS. 
          BYPRODUCTS USED TO PRODUCE POWER LOCALLY REQUIRE PUBLIC NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE OF A DATA CENTER PROHIBIT THE USE OF TAX BREAKS OR OTHER FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE DATA CENTERS TO LOCATE WITHIN AUSTIN. 
          UPDATE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION ANNUALLY ON PROGRESS AND UP UPDATES RELATED TO THE REPORT MANDATED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT STUDIES CURRENT PROJECTED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND RESOURCE USES OF LOCAL DATA CENTERS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH BIPARTISAN NATIONAL CALLS, INVOKE A MORATORIUM ON ALL NEW DATA CENTERS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN LIMITS AND THE ETJ. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MO MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY PRIMER. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY AMENDMENTS? OH, THAT'S EXCITING. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE. 
          WE'LL START WITH CHAIR BRISTOL APPROVE. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER ETT. 
          COMMISSIONER FLURRY APPROVE. 
          COMMISSIONER LUKI APPROVE. 
          UH, SECRETARY KSI APPROVE. 
          COMMISSIONER FIERRO APPROVE. 
          COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN APPROVE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER BRIMER. 
          YES. 
           COMMISSIONER. 
          MORE APPROVE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I ALSO VOTE. 
          YES. 
          SO WITH THAT, IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          HALLELUJAH. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. 
          UM, SO MOTION PASSES. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD AND BRING BACK COMMISSIONER MORRISON IF WE CAN. 
          AND WE JUST HAVE ONE FINAL ITEM, BUT LET ME WAIT FOR HER. 
          CAN SOMEONE GRAB HER? OH, SHE LEFT. 
          YEAH. 
          SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T REALIZE. 
          OOPS. 
          WELL, YEAH, YEAH, SHE, I THINK SHE LEFT THE BUILDING. 
          OH, . 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT, TAKE . 
          ALRIGHT, SO WITH 
          [5. Conduct officer elections for the Chair, Vice Chair, and Secretary.]
THAT WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONDUCT OFFICER ELECTIONS FOR THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND SECRETARY. 
          SO NOMINATIONS CAN BE MADE ONE AT A TIME. 
          AND I, I WILL RECOGNIZE CHAIR BRISTOL IN JUST A SECOND. 
          UM, IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE NOMINATIONS, AGAIN, WE'LL VOTE ON EACH ONE AT A TIME. 
          AND CHAIR BRISTOL, I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, RECOMMEND THAT COMMISSIONER KRUEGER BE CHAIR AND THAT, UH, AND THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER CRUSHY, UH, CONTINUE TO BE HIS SECRETARY. 
          AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER KRUGER HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THE PAST THREE MEETINGS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO IF WE TAKE THAT ONE AT A TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT NOMINATION FOR CHAIR FIRST, I THINK FOR ME. 
          UM, WHICH I APPRECIATE. 
          AND THEN DO WE NEED A SECOND? OKAY. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          OH, YAY. 
          THANK YOU . 
          OKAY, SECOND ADVICE. 
          KURESHI THE NOMINATION DO NOT REQUIRE A, NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE SECOND SONS OR UNDER ROBERT'S RULES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO HAVE A NOMINATION. 
          THE NOMINATION DOES REQUIRE A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL AT LEAST WE GOT IT. 
          UM, OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ARGUE ABOUT THIS SOME OTHER TIME. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, LET'S JUST GET IT DONE. 
          WE HAVE A NOMINATION. 
          ALRIGHT, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, GO AHEAD AND RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. 
          THAT REALLY MEANS A LOT. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE A, A NEW CHAIR. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER RESI TO CONTINUE ON, CONTINUE ON AS SECRETARY AGAIN AS, UM, STILL CURRENT CHAIR BRISTOL MENTIONED. 
          UM, HE'S JUST DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND, UH, HAS BEEN ON THE COMMISSION A LONG TIME, SO I NOMINATE HIM SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND IF WE NEED A SECOND, WE DO HAVE IT. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT IS ALSO UNANIMOUS. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          UM, AND THEN NEXT I'LL ENTERTAIN, UH, NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR, UH, NOMINATE COMMISSIONER OR CHAIR. 
          UH, WHAT, WHAT IS EVEN THE TITLE, I GUESS? CURRENT CHAIR, BRISTOL FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, AND I'LL SECOND IF WE NEED A SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE A NOMINATION AND A SECOND. 
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JEN HAS BEEN AMAZING AND ALL THE THINGS, HER LEGACY WILL FOREVER BE BIRD FRIENDLY BUILDING DESIGN AMONG OTHER THINGS. 
          I'M GRATEFUL THAT SHE'S WILLING TO CONTINUE ON IN AN OFFICER CAPACITY. 
          I THINK SHE ADDS SO MUCH TO OUR MEETING, SO WOULD WOULD LOVE TO KEEP HER AS AN OFFICER IF POSSIBLE. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A NOMINATION, A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          AND THAT IS ALSO UNANIMOUS. 
          ALL MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. 
          OKAY, THANKS Y'ALL. 
          YES. 
          SO WITH THAT 
          [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]
WE GO TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK PEOPLE ARE TIRED. 
          OH, NOPE. 
          COMMISSIONER BRIER,  LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE ON. 
          CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR MIC? FORESTRY, MIKE? YEAH, WHOEVER MIKE IS. 
          UH, ALL THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE NEED THE URBAN FOREST TO MY, UH, YOU KNOW, EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING BEFORE MID-MAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY SOON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THAT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM OR JUST LIKE A NOTICE? THAT'S A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR US TO GOT. 
          OKAY, GOT IT. 
          ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ALRIGHT. 
          UM, ANY OBJECTIONS TO ENDING THE MEETING? CLOSING THE MEETING. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:11 PM THANK YOU GUYS.
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