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          [CALL TO ORDER  ]
          [00:00:04]
          UM, I AM, UH, JOANNE NORTON. 
          I'M THE VICE CHAIR. 
          UM, OUR CHAIR, UH, DR. NIELSEN IS, UM, NOT HERE TODAY. 
          UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH, UM, OUR ROLL CALL. 
          SO, AS I SAID, UH, DR. NIELSEN IS NOT HERE. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER HUDDLESON. 
          NICE TO SEE YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER LOKEN. 
          HERE. 
          HERE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER DANIEL. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER ER. 
          COMMISSIONER EMER. 
          COMMISSIONER EMER. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. 
          COMMISSIONER EMER HERE. 
          IS THAT WRONG? I THOUGHT YOU SAID MR. THAT'S WHY I WAS WORRIED. 
          OH, NO. 
          . 
          UH, COMMISSIONER AHMED. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER MARIN HERE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER ZAES HERE. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER VAN LANDINGHAM. 
          HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER FERGUSON PRESENT. 
          AND COMMISSIONER HOLT? HERE. 
          HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'LL START 
          [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL  ]
WITH OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS. 
          UM, FIRST UP IS, UH, ROBIN KATZ. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS ROBIN KATZ GONZALEZ, AND I'M SURE THAT YOU THOUGHT I WOULDN'T BE COMING BACK SINCE YOU DIDN'T SEE ME LAST MONTH. 
          BUT HERE I AM. 
          I ALSO LOST MY, MY FLASH DRIVE BETWEEN, UM, MY OFFICE AND HERE. 
          SO, UH, BEAR WITH ME WHILE I FLY THROUGH THIS SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE THE IMAGES IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          BUT OF COURSE, THIS IS THE STATE OF THE ANIMALS IN AUSTIN, TEXAS. 
          UM, NO KILL TO ME IS EITHER LESS DOGS PICKED UP TO INCREASE THE, UH, STATS FOR THE, FOR THE, UM, SHELTER OR GIVING DOGS AWAY TO ANYBODY WHO HAS A PULSE. 
          AND SO I HAD SOME EXAMPLES OF WHY NO KILL IS NOT THE DIRECTION TO CONTINUE GOING. 
          ONE IS, UM, A POST, AND I'M SORRY I RAN. 
          I'M SURE THE ELEVATORS, YOU KNOW, ARE OUT. 
          SO, FOUR FLIGHTS OF STAIRS, BOTH DIRECTIONS IS A LOT. 
          SO, UM, THIS ONE ANIMAL, AND THIS IS A DAILY BASIS, THIS ONE DOG WAS POSTED CALLED 3 1 1, AND THEN NOBODY SHOWED UP AND THEN ENDED UP THE NEXT DAY DECEASED. 
          UM, SO THIS IS ANOTHER LOOSE DOG THAT WAS NOT PICKED UP AND NOW RUN OVER. 
          ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHY NO KILL DOESN'T WORK SLOW KILL ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. 
          ANOTHER ONE IS SEVERAL GERMAN SHEPHERDS WERE REPORTED AS LOOSE. 
          IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS. 
          ANIMAL CONTROL REFUSED TO TAKE THEM TO THE SHELTER. 
          ONE HAS NOW BEEN HIT AND KILLED BY A CAR. 
          SPENT A LONG AFTERNOON, AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES BEGGED, THREATENED, OR REFUSED TO TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. 
          BEST I COULD GET WAS AN EXPEDITED APPOINTMENT IF I GET THE SHERIFF TO HELP TRANSPORT THE ONE SURVIVOR TO THE SHELTER. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS A SENIOR PITY THAT WAS LOST AND LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN PITIFUL SHAPE. 
          I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION WITH 3 1 1. 
          THERE'S SOME INCONSISTENCIES. 
          3 1 1 SAYS THEY'RE AT CAPACITY. 
          CAN'T PICK UP, LEAVE THE ANIMAL WHERE IT IS. 
          ANOTHER ONE IS MORE 3 1 1 CONFUSION WHERE THE ANIMAL PATROL, UH, PROTECTION OFFICER TOLD THIS REPORTER TO JUST GO AHEAD AND LET THE DOG GO. 
          MAYBE THEY WOULD SEND SOMEBODY BACK LATER IF THEY HAD TIME. 
          UM, AND FINALLY, THERE'S A REPORT OF A DOG ON A BALCONY WITH FECES EVERYWHERE AND IN TERRIBLE SHAPE. 
          IT'S JUST A REMINDER TO, UM, THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APOS HAVE TRAINING. 
          AND 3, 1 1 ALSO HAS TRAINING AS TO WHAT ANIMAL CRUELTY CONSISTS OF. 
          SO IN THE FUTURE, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY MOVEMENT ON 3 1 1 AND FOLLOWING UP WITH TRAINING ON TO FOR 3 1 1 OPERATORS, UH, SEE IF IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM IN THE FUTURE. 
          CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO ADOPT AN ANIMAL ADOPTIONS ARE NOT A RIGHT. 
          UH, AND CHECKING LEASE AGREEMENTS, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL SAY THEY CAN HAVE AN ANIMAL AND THEY END UP ON THE BALCONY JUST LIKE THIS DOG DID LIVING IN FECES. 
          SO, UM, FOLLOWING UP ON LEASE AGREEMENTS, ENSURING THAT PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE ANIMALS WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE ADOPTING THEM. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S NOT DOING DUE DILIGENCE IF YOU DON'T CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT PERSON DOES NOT HAVE A BACKGROUND IN CRIMINAL, UH, IN ANIMAL CRUELTY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UM, COMMISSIONER AHMED, UM, WELCOME. 
          UM, CAN YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE HERE? I'M HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OUR NEXT CALLER IS REMOTE, UM, SANDRA MUELLER. 
          HI, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO. 
          YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S ALWAYS A PROBLEM. 
          UH, 
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TALK. 
          SO, HI EVERYBODY, THIS IS SANDRA MUELLER. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO EXPLAIN THE HISTORY OF ATS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          SO, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, TLAC WAS BUILT IN 1954, AND THAT'S WHERE A PA SIT IN 2011. 
          A PA SIGNED THE LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR FREE RENT AND HALF UTILITIES PAID IN EXCHANGE FOR TAKING ANIMALS FROM A A C. 
          IN 2012, A PA WAS ALLOWED TO PULL ANIMALS FROM THE FIVE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND TAKE 12% OR 3000 ANIMALS FROM A A C, WHICHEVER WAS HIGHER. 
          AND 3000 WAS ALWAYS HIGHER. 
          IN 2018, A PA REMOVED THE WORD AUSTIN FROM A COMMISSION STATEMENT. 
          THEY ALSO TOOK OVER AN ADDITIONAL 60 KENNELS WITHOUT INCREASING THEIR INTAKE FROM A A C. 
          IN 2019, THE RIGHT TO RESCUE ORDINANCE WAS PUSHED BY DR. 
          ELLEN JEFFERSON, REMOVING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO DO SPAY BOARDS. 
          AND THANK GOD THAT WAS RECENTLY FLIPPED. 
          IN 2021, THE CITY REMOVED THE FIVE COUNTY CONSTRAINTS, AND DR. JEFFERSON TRIED TO REDUCE HER INTAKE TO A MERE 5% THAT DIDN'T GO IN 2022, APAS INTAKE WAS REDUCED TO ONLY 12% THAT 3000 GOT. 
          SO FINALLY, IN AUGUST OF 2023, THE NEW OPERATIONS AGREEMENT IS SIGNED, WHICH REQUIRES A PA TO REBUILD PLAC BY 2028. 
          SO BASICALLY IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, A PA HAS DONE LESS AND LESS FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN WHILE BRINGING IN MORE AND MORE ANIMALS FROM OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, CREATING DIRECT COMPETITION AND A HUGE IMPACT ON THE CITY THEY CLAIM TO BE THE SAVIOR OF LAST MONTH. 
          MS. HARTZEL SAID, QUOTE, AT THE VERY MOST, WE WILL TAKE IN 100 FROM OUTSIDE THE IMMEDIATE AUSTIN COMMUNITY END QUOTE. 
          BUT I'D LIKE AN EXPLANATION OF WHERE 642 ANIMALS IN MARCH AND 680 ANIMALS IN APRIL THAT WERE QUOTE UNQUOTE TRANSFERRED IN FROM AGENCY, CAME FROM A PA REDUCTION IN ASSISTANCE AND INTAKE OF THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS EVERY YEAR HAS HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THIS CITY. 
          IN THE NAME OF TRANSPARENCY, I'M ASKING MS. DANGLER TO HAVE A PA REPORT ON THE EXACT NUMBER OF ANIMALS BROUGHT IN FROM OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN. 
          AND AS THE SPEAKER RECENTLY SAID, AUSTIN CAN'T MAKE TEXAS NO KILL. 
          IT'S JUST NOT FAIR, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME AND VOLUNTEERING, AND PLEASE STICK UP FOR THE, THE ANIMALS OF AUSTIN. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PAT TRES. 
          THANK YOU VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE HERE AND GIVING OF YOUR TIME TO DO THIS THING THAT I CONSIDER VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DO TOO. 
          AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE STAFF AND THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP TO SPEAK EVERY MONTH. 
          I THINK THIS IS A, A REALLY GOOD THING THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          AT TIMES. 
          I'M FRUSTRATED BY IT, AS PROBABLY SOME OF YOU ARE, BUT I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD THING. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, MY NAME IS PAT VARES. 
          I SPEAK FREQUENTLY. 
          I SERVED ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR 16 YEARS, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN MAYBE 17 OR 18 YEARS BY NOW SINCE I'VE BEEN OFF OF IT. 
          BUT I CONTINUE TO COME TO MEETINGS, I CONTINUE TO SERVE IN SOME CAPACITY OR ANOTHER. 
          AND TONIGHT I WANNA SPEAK ON THE DONATIONS FUND AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THE DONATIONS FUND WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MANY DETAILS UNTIL I HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO MONICA ABOUT IT. 
          'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO, UM, AS I SAID TO HER EARLIER, NEVER COME WITH ANY KIND OF GOTCHA THING THAT I'M GONNA DO. 
          SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HER ABOUT AHEAD OF TIME. 
          SO I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO HER ABOUT IT. 
          UM, THE DONATIONS FUND FOR THE CITY, I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL. 
          UM, I THINK THAT IT HAPPENED BECAUSE THE HUMANE SOCIETY USED TO OPERATE THE SHELTER THAT RIGHT NOW IS THE A PA SHELTER. 
          AND THEY USED TO DO THAT UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE CITY. 
          SO THEY HAD DONATIONS, JARS ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          AND WHEN THE CITY TOOK OVER, THEY LEFT THE DONATIONS JARS OUT, AND THERE STARTED TO BE SOME MONEY BEING COLLECTED. 
          WELL, BACK THEN, IT WASN'T VERY MUCH, BUT AS TIME HAS GONE BY, IT HAS GOTTEN BIGGER AND BIGGER. 
          AND AS TIME HAS GONE BY, THERE ARE YEARS WHERE IT DOESN'T GET BUDGETED. 
          IT DOESN'T GET DISCUSSED IN BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          IT'S JUST A LITTLE FUND THAT THE DIRECTOR AND THE STAFF USE FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE. 
          EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, OVER THE LAST 30 SOME YEARS, 37, 34 YEARS, I'VE COME FORWARD AND I'VE SAID, LET'S BUDGET THE DONATIONS FUND. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH IS 
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IN IT. 
          AND ONE YEAR THERE WAS $400,000. 
          AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE COULD DO SOME GOOD THINGS WITH. 
          AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, IN THIS PAST YEAR, THERE WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE DONATIONS FUND. 
          AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DISCUSS AND SEE WHAT IT IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO OR HAVE THE COMMUNITY GIVE SOME INPUT. 
          UM, SO MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION NEXT MONTH ON THE DONATIONS FUND. 
          HOW MUCH IS IN IT, WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR, THAT YOU NOT MAKE A DECISION, NOT TALK ABOUT IT AND, AND, AND APPROVE ANYTHING, BUT JUST HEAR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT AS WELL. 
          THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH, YOU PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS IT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, OUR FINAL SPEAKER, UM, IS, UH, ROCHELLE VICKERY AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY. 
          ROCHELLE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, I WANNA THANK ALL OF Y'ALL. 
          UH, Y'ALL HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY CALLS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED BECAUSE I REQUESTED FOR, UH, GIFT CARDS FOR OUR TRAPPERS. 
          I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU REALIZE THE WHAT'S INVOLVED. 
          JEN KNOWS YOU'RE OUT THERE AT NIGHT, THE MOSQUITOES ARE GETTING, YOU'RE OUT THERE IN THE SUN, IT'S HOT, AND THE PEOPLE FEED WHEN YOU CAN'T CATCH. 
          IT'S JUST LIKE ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER. 
          SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY DEDICATED US STRAPPERS, AND I'M STILL DEDICATED IN HELPING CATS. 
          I DON'T CARE. 
          YOU KNOW, I HELP OTHER PEOPLE. 
          AND WHEN THEY HAD THE GOOD FIX, I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW I OWN 20 TRAPS. 
          I HAD SOMEBODY THAT TOOK 17 OF MY TRAPS AND USED THEM TO HELP THE GOOD FIX. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT MANY TRAPS. 
          SO I'M OUT THERE HELPING WITH THAT SITUATION AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND, BUT ANOTHER THING I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, IF WE COULD STOP GIVING FOOD TO PEOPLE, AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE BREEDING, BECAUSE THAT'S, WE'RE SHOOTING OURSELF IN THE FOOT, THEY'RE BREEDING, THEY'RE SELLING, THEY'RE GIVING AWAY, AND THEY DON'T HAVE MICROCHIPS. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO THINK OF THAT AND HOW WE CAN, THAT'S WHY I WANTED THE GOOD FIX SPAYED AND NEUTER. 
          SO WE CAN STOP THAT. 
          BECAUSE THE SHELTER A PA DOES IT, THE HUMANE SOCIETY DOES IT. 
          A CA DOES IT, ALL OF THEM DO IT. 
          AND I JUST THINK THAT'S TERRIBLE BECAUSE WE'RE SHOOTING OURSELF IN THE FOOT IN THAT SITUATION OF GIVING FOOD. 
          AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THEIR ANIMALS ARE SPAYED OR NEUTERED IF THEY EVEN HAVE A MICROCHIP IN THEM. 
          SO I'D LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO THINK OF THAT AND, AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CON CONTROL THAT WE WANNA FEED THE ANIMALS. 
          BUT LET'S ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THAT SAYING ON THE THING ON THE TV, SAY GIVE $15 A MONTH FOR, FOR THE PUPPIES AND ALL THIS, THAT, AND OTHER, I JUST SCREAM AT THE TV SOMETIMES AND SPAYED AND NEUTER YOUR ANIMALS. 
          SO WE WON'T HAVE THEM. 
          SO IF I KNEW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF THE PERSON ON THAT THING, I WOULD TELL THEM, IF ANY OF Y'ALL KNOW HOW THEY, THEY NEED TO SAY THAT AT THE END BECAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD HELP OUR SITUATIONS AND OUR SHELTERS IN OUR LITTLE TOWNS EVERYWHERE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD MONTH. 
          THANK YOU, ROCHELLE. 
          OKAY, THAT ENDS OUR GENERAL TOPIC SPEAKERS. 
          UM, OUR NEXT ORDER 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES  ]
IS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM, UH, APRIL 13TH, 2026? ALL MOTION? OKAY. 
          OKAY, WHITNEY AND AARON. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ANY ANYONE READ THEM? ? UM, I WENT THROUGH THEM. 
          THEY LOOK GOOD. 
          . 
          UM, I DID NOT WATCH THE VI VIDEO LIKE, UH, UH, DR. NIELSEN DOES. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES. 
          ANYONE AGAINST? OKAY. 
          SO THAT PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OUR NEXT ORDER 
          [2. Staff briefing regarding monthly reports. Presentation by Monica Dangler, Director, Austin  Animal Services and Jason Garza, Assistant Director, Austin Animal Services. ]
IS STAFF BRIEFINGS. 
          WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER. 
          PAT, ARE YOU GONNA SPEAK RES? THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          UM, I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK BOTH REMOTELY AND IN PERSON. 
          I CAME IN PERSON FOR THE FIRST ITEM, BUT I NEED TO LEAVE. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN GET INSTRUCTIONS WHILE I'M OUTSIDE TO THEN SPEAK REMOTELY. 
          AND 
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I AM GONNA TRY TO SPEAK REMOTELY ON OTHER ITEMS. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WELL, UH, TURN IT OVER TO AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          JASON GARZA WITH ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GO OVER REAL QUICKLY THE MONTHLY REPORTING MAYBE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          UM, SO FOR MONTH OF APRIL, UH, WE HAD 1100 TOTAL ANIMALS THAT WERE IMPOUNDED, UH, WITH 1068 OF THOSE ANIMALS BEING, UM, COMPANION ANIMALS. 
          WE, THIS WAS A 26% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH. 
          SO, UM, MOST OF THOSE, WHEN YOU SEE THE BREAKDOWN ARE KITTENS. 
          SO THIS WAS SORT OF OUR INDICATOR THAT WE'RE IN SORT OF THE MIDDLE OF KITTEN SEASON STARTING FOR US. 
          UM, UH, THIS NEXT SLIDE, I'LL STAY A LITTLE BIT ON IT. 
          IT'S A, YOU'LL SEE A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THIS SLIDE AND THE DATA REPORT. 
          THE DATA REPORT SHOWS THAT THERE WERE 117 ANIMALS THAT WERE EUTHANIZED THIS MONTH, BUT THERE ARE ACTUALLY 35 ANIMALS. 
          THE REASON WHY THEY INCREASE THE DIFFERENCE IS, UM, I STARTED GOING THROUGH JUST RECORDS, JUST MAKING SURE, SORT OF AUDITING THE SYSTEM A LITTLE BIT NOW THAT WE'RE COMING UP TO A YEAR. 
          AND I WAS SEEING SOME, SOME ITEMS THAT WEREN'T BEING OUTCOME CORRECTLY. 
          SO I, I WAS IDENTIFYING THOSE ITEMS, SENDING IT TO SPECIFIC MANAGERS TO HOLD FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. 
          OR WE'VE DONE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAININGS FOR STAFF SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE. 
          UM, EVEN THOUGH THE ANIMAL MAY HAVE BEEN EUTHANIZED OR DIED A PREVIOUS, UM, EVEN LAST YEAR, IF THAT IS, SOME OF THE RECORDS INDICATED THEY WOULD'VE BEEN COUNTED FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL. 
          SO OVER THIS PAST MONTH, PROBABLY EVEN THIS MONTH, UH, FOR MAY. 
          SO WHEN WE REPORT IN JUNE, WE'LL SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE DISCIPLE ANIMALS THAT WERE ACTUALLY EUTHANIZED THAT MONTH VERSUS, AND, UM, VERSUS WHAT RECORDS WE'RE DOING WITH, UH, RECORD CLEANUP. 
          SO JUST LETTING YOU KNOW I'M GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS NOW. 
          UH, THIS, THAT MONTH I WAS ABLE TO DO, WE WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGH 82 RECORDS. 
          THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER A HUNDRED THAT WE'RE JUST, UM, FINALIZING AND, UM, CLEANING UP. 
          AND THEN FOR, UH, FOLLOWING UP WITH THE SPECIFIC STAFF MEMBERS SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE, LIKE, HEY, WHEN WE'RE DOING SHELTER READY, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING A UPPER OR A PROCEDURE OR, OR ACTION, YOU'RE ACTUALLY CHANGING THE STATUS AS WELL. 
          UM, FOR APRIL, WE HAD A LIVE RELEASE RATE. 
          AM I DONE? ? YOU'RE DONE. 
          DONE. 
          . 
          YOU WISH. 
          UH, WE HAD A LIVE RELEASE RATE OF ALMOST 96%. 
          UM, SO STILL DOING WELL WITH, WITH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING A HIGH LIVE OUTCOME RATE. 
          UM, THIS WAS A GOOD INDICATOR. 
          WE DID HAVE A LOT OF, UM, DIFFERENT ADOPTION PRO UH, EVENTS, PROMOS, SO AGAIN, DOING ALL WE CAN. 
          AND WE HAD A HUGE SUPPORT FROM OUR, OUR RESCUE PARTNERS, SPECIFICALLY A PA. 
          THEY HELPED US A LOT LAST, LAST MONTH AS WELL, AS YOU'LL SEE IN A LITTLE BIT, UM, WE HAD 406 ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTED. 
          UM, SO WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF A STEADY LINE FOR FY 26. 
          WE'RE HOPING WE'RE GOING GET TO INCREASE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS WITH JUST SOME OF THE, THE, UM, PROMOTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN OFFERING. 
          WHERE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, THE BISSELL PET FOUNDATION IN ORDER TO OFFER, UH, FREE ADOPTIONS. 
          UH, WE'RE ON OUR SORT OF LAST FULL WEEK OF IT. 
          SO TELL YOUR FRIENDS, TELL YOUR FAMILY. 
          JUST THEY WANT YOU AN ANIMAL. 
          COME ON DOWN. 
          US. 
          UM, WE HAD 352 ANIMALS. 
          OUR DIFFERENT FAMILIES FOSTERED FOR US AS OF, UH, MAY 1ST WE HAD THREE OVER 300 ANIMALS IN FOSTER. 
          UM, THROUGH PRC, WE WERE ABLE TO GET 32 ANIMALS IN, UH, FIND HER TO FOSTER. 
          AND 76 OF ANIMALS WERE DIRECTLY ADOPTED, UM, FROM OUR FOSTER PART, UH, FOSTER, UM, UH, FROM OUR FOSTER, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, LIKE I MENTIONED, UM, WE HAD 21 DIFFERENT RESCUE PARTNERS, UH, DO A TOTAL OF 446 DOMESTIC ANIMALS THAT WERE, UM, TRANSFERRED TO THEM, INTO THEIR, UM, THIS TOTAL INCLUDED OVER, UH, 200 KITTENS. 
          AND, UM, THE BREAKDOWN RIGHT THERE WITH THE ALL THE OTHER ANIMALS. 
          BUT REALLY WE SAW THAT A LOT OF HELP FROM OUR KITTENS. 
          NOW THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT POPULATION COME IN. 
          UH, WE HAD 79 ANIMALS THAT WERE RECLAIMED. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTED, UM, OR THEY WERE ADOPTED INTACT OR, OR RETURNED TO THEIR OWNER. 
          UM, WE WERE REPORTED NO ANIMALS THAT WERE MISSING. 
          AND WE DID HAVE DO ANIMALS THAT DIED IN SHELTER. 
          UM, VOLUNTEERS, AGAIN, CONTRIBUTED HUGE NUMBERS TO US. 
          WE HAD OVER 5,000 HOURS CONTRIBUTED FROM OUR VOLUNTEERS. 
          UM, WE HAD, UH, 42 NEW, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UM, ATTEND NEW VOLUNTEER ORIENTATIONS. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THEM INTO THE HOLD AS WELL. 
          UM, WE HAD, UH, 423 SPAY AND NEUTER CONDUCTED AT THE 
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SHELTER. 
          AND, UM, WE DON'T HAVE FOR THIS INVOICE, BUT JUST REPORTING THE, UM, INVOICE THAT WE, MOST RECENT ONE WE RECEIVED FROM JANUARY WAS $30,000 THAT WE GOT PAID AT THE EMERGENCY CLINIC. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S IT. 
          WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT? OR DO YOU WANNA JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION? THE CRITTERS? WHAT WERE THE CRITTERS? OH, JUST ANY LIKE LITTLE GUINEA PIGS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SMALL ANIMALS, YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE GET THOSE FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          ACTUALLY, WE GOT SEVEN MICE YESTERDAY, LIKE LITTLE BIT MICE. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, EC MM-HMM . 
          YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN INVOICE SINCE JANUARY? OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? THAT'S THE MOST REPORTED ONE. 
          UM, I HAVEN'T, USUALLY WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY COME INTO VET SERVICES AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY DO, UM, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT PIECEMEAL, BUT THEY'LL DO SORT OF LIKE WEEKLY INVOICES UNTIL WE GET THE FINAL ONES AND THEN WE'LL TALLY THEM ALL UP TO REPORT IT. 
          USUALLY THEY'RE ONLY A MONTH BEHIND, SO I'LL HAVE TO CHECK OUT WITH, WITH, WITH THAT. 
          'CAUSE USUALLY WE GET THEM SOONER, YOU KNOW? UM, SO, SO JANUARY WAS THE LAST YEAH, LIKE THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO. 
          FOUR MONTHS AGO, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 10, THAT'S A LONG TIME. 
          10, 10,000 TO 30,000 IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING SPENDING ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD FROM SOME KITTEN FOSTERS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN RAMPED UP WAITING FOR KITTENS  AT THE KITTEN NOTICES, AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GETTING THEM. 
          AND IT LOOKS, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING, THAT A LOT MORE KITTENS WERE TRANSFERRED THIS YEAR AND NOT SENT TO FOSTER SO FAR. 
          SO IS THAT TRUE? AND IF SO, WHY IS THAT? YEAH, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, UM, ANY KITTENS THAT ARE UN ARE TOO YOUNG TO EAT ON THEIR OWN DIRECTLY TRANSFERRING THEM TO AUSTIN PETS ALIVE. 
          SO WE CAN KEEP OUR RESOURCES, UH, FOR THE DOGS THAT ARE IN OUR CARE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES FOR SPAY NEUTER, FOR, UH, MEDICAL, AND THEN FOR ADOPTIONS. 
          SO WHILE WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT. 
          AND THE AN, THE KITTENS COMING IN THAT ARE ABLE TO EAT ON THEIR OWN, UM, ACTUALLY I THINK IT'S KITTENS THAT ARE ONE POUND OR BIGGER. 
          SO PRETTY LITTLE ONES ARE WHAT WE'RE SENDING TO FOSTER, BUT WE ARE JUST SEEING, UM, KITTEN SEASON ISN'T REALLY INTO FULL SWING YET. 
          UM, I THINK IT JUST STARTED A LITTLE LATER THAN, UM, TYPICAL AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS, ALL KITTENS TRANSFERRED TO A PA OR ALL COULD NOT EAT ON THEIR OWN ALL BOTTLE BABIES. 
          THEY WERE ALL UNDER A POUND. 
          ALL UNDER A POUND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND WE A S SAYS, NO FOSTERS WHO DO THAT, WHO CARE FOR THOSE? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO, BUT, UM, A A S MEANING YOU GUYS? YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, UH, WE, WE PROBABLY HAVE A FEW OF THOSE FOSTERS THAT WILL BOTTLE FEED THE KITTENS, BUT FROM A RESOURCE STANDPOINT, WHILE WE MIGHT HAVE THE FOSTERS, WE DON'T HAVE THE, UM, UH, SPAY NEUTER CAPACITY, MEDICAL CAPACITY, AND ADOPTION CAPACITY, UM, TO GET THEM OUT. 
          SO WE'RE REDIRECTING THOSE RESOURCES. 
          UM, YEAH, WE'RE REDIRECTING THOSE RESOURCES TOWARDS THE DOGS AND ANIMALS IN OUR CARE. 
          I WILL, AS SOMEONE WHO USED TO RUN A CAT RESCUE, IF THEY'RE UNDER A POUND OR UNDER FIVE WEEKS, THEY ARE JUST FRAGILE LITTLE BOMBS WAITING TO GO OFF. 
          AND SO I, I THINK THAT IS A, A WISE DECISION. 
          , UM, LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A JUMP IN SPAY NEUTER FOR THE LAST MONTH. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? AND IF SO, WHAT ARE, IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE STAFFING BEING UP OR ARE THERE OTHER REASONS FOR THAT GOING? SO YEAH, WE'RE DOING A CONCERTED EFFORT WITH STAFFING, ALSO DOING ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR ALL OUR, ALL OUR TECHS AND, UM, JUST REALLY MAKING EFFORTS TO REALLY AMP UP THAT WE'VE ALSO, UM, HAVE STORED, DIPPED OUR TOE. 
          AGAIN, JUST PUTTING, DOING SURGERY ON THE WEEKENDS AS WELL. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE THAT. 
          SO, PRESENTATION. 
          JASON, DO YOU HAVE ONE MORE REPORT OR ARE WE MOVING? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          30 69. 
          IT'S THIS LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          THIS IS ANOTHER, THIS ISN'T ABOUT INTAKE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE, THIS IS ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE STAFF BRIEFING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW? NO, WE'RE STILL ON ITEM TWO, BUT WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF IT. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WHAT'S SHOWING UP IS ITEM THREE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          GO BACK ONE MORE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, SO APRIL, I HAD TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MONTH WE'RE CURRENTLY IN. 
          APRIL WAS A VERY BUSY MONTH FOR US. 
          UM, AS YOU GUYS MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, UH, THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT HOW FULL WE ARE. 
          WE HAD LOTS OF DOGS AND CRATES. 
          UM, IT BECAME, IT CAME TO A BREAKING POINT. 
          UM, AND LUCKILY THE AUSTIN ANIMAL WELFARE COALITION, UM, HELPED US OUT. 
          THEY PUT OUT A CALL AND, UM, UH, HELPED US PUT ON A WEEKEND LONG EVENT FREE ADOPTIONS AND JUST HAD THOSE EXTRA PEOPLE TO HELP. 
          SO WE WERE HELPING CUSTOMERS IN THE KENNELS, WALKING THEM THROUGH, HELPING THEM OUT FRONT, UM, AND JUST MOVING THEM THROUGH THAT WEEKEND. 
          WE GOT 173. 
          I DIDN'T WEAR MY GLASSES. 
          UH, 137, I THINK IT WAS 137, UH, DOGS. 
          UM, PLUS THEN ALL THE CATS OUT OF THE SHELTER IN A THREE DAY PERIOD, WHICH GOT US OUT OF THE CRATES OUT OF THE BACK. 
          WE HAD DOGS WAITING AND, UM, ALL OF OUR, UH, KENNELS IN THE BACK, INCLUDING SURGERY KENNELS, WHICH IMPACTED US BEING ABLE TO DO SURGERIES, SO THEY WERE ALL ABLE TO GET OUT. 
          SO, UM, TO GET US MOVING AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE A FEW DOGS IN OUR Q KENNELS, WHICH IS KIND OF OUR INTAKE, UM, THAT ARE STAYING THERE A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND, UM, DO ALL THAT. 
          SO THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE COALITION'S HELP AND THE COMMUNITY, UM, OF AUSTIN TO COME OUT AND, UM, ADOPT AND FOSTER, UM, ALONG WITH OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UM, DURING THE LAST 30 DAYS. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          WE'VE WORKED ON SOME PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, WE'VE CONTINUED TO WORK ON, UM, PATHWAYS AND TRANSFER PROTOCOLS. 
          WE WERE RECENTLY JUST WRAPPED UP A MEETING WITH, UM, AUSTIN PETS ALIVE ON, UH, TRANSFER PROTOCOLS FOR KITTENS AND, UM, PUPPIES THAT ARE UNDER AGE, UH, THAT ARE ORPHANED. 
          UM, AND THEN WE, UH, LIKE JASON MENTIONED, HAD ADDED AN EXTRA DAY OF SURGERY ON THE WEEKENDS SO WE COULD HELP GET THOSE ANIMALS THROUGH. 
          UM, AND ON THOSE DAYS, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON THE BIG DOGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN OUR CARE A LITTLE LONGER. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A GREAT TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP SUPPORT THE CLINIC TEAM, UM, TO GET THOSE GUYS IN 'CAUSE THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT EXTRA, UM, TREATMENT AND, UH, SPECIALIZED HANDLING FROM THE VOLUNTEERS, WHICH HAS BEEN SUPER HELPFUL. 
          UM, UH, OTHER PROGRAMS, UH, IN SOCIAL, WE STARTED OUR DOG DAY OUT AND WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, BUT WE PUBLICIZED IT AND LET EVERYONE KNOW, WHICH IS GREAT DOG DAY OUT AND OVERNIGHTS. 
          UM, IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, WE'RE HOPING TO ADD TWO EXTRA DAYS, SO FOUR DAYS A WEEK YOU CAN COME IN AND TAKE DOGS OUT ON TRIPS, AND WE WILL WORK THAT INTO A SEVEN DAY, UM, PLAN, UH, MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, AND WE HAD THE GRADUATION, UH, FOR OUR INAUGURAL, UH, ENDURING SERVICE COHORT, UM, WHICH WAS THE PRISON PROGRAM WHERE 12 DOGS WENT TO, UM, TEXAS, TRAVIS STATE JAIL, UH, WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE, UH, TO LIVE IN THE JAIL WITH, UM, VETERAN INMATES THAT ARE, UM, GETTING SKILLS FOR THEIR REENTRY PROGRAM. 
          UM, SO IT WAS, UH, A REALLY GREAT, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM. 
          WE HAVE THE NEXT COHORT GOING IN NEXT WEEK, UM, WHICH WILL BE GREAT. 
          IT'S BEEN A REALLY NICE PARTNERSHIP AND, UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE FINE TUNING, UM, HOW THAT WORKS AND GETTING THE DOGS OUT OF THE SHELTER AND GETTING THE TRAINING THAT THEY NEED, UM, WHILE ALSO HELPING PEOPLE, UM, UH, SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SHELTER. 
          UM, WE DID ADD OUR EVENT CALENDAR TO THE WEBSITE SO PEOPLE CAN SEE UPCOMING EVENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS ENHANCED STAFFING, UM, FOR, UH, VETERINARY SERVICES, UM, WE DID, UM, A RECENT INTERVIEW, UH, FOR THE VET TECH POSITIONS THAT ARE LEFT. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE TWO OUT OF THAT. 
          WE'VE GOT ONE LEAD POSITION, UM, THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT HIRING PROCESS. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE ONE UPCOMING VACANCY FOR A TECH, BUT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO, UM, FULLY STAFFED, WHICH HAS, UM, ALSO BEEN HELPING WITH OUR, UM, VET SERVICES TEAM AND GETTING THOSE S SPANIARDS DONE. 
          UM, SOME OTHER THINGS, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW FOR UPCOMING EVENTS YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, LOOK FORWARD TO IS WE'VE GOT, UM, UPCOMING OMEGA VACCINATION AND MICROCHIP, UH, CLINIC IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AUSTIN HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          THAT'LL BE ON JUNE 10TH, UM, AT THEIR NEW LOCATION THAT THEY DON'T OPERATE OUT OF CURRENTLY. 
          BUT IT'S A, A 
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NICE BIG CHURCH. 
          IT HAS A HUGE PARKING LOT AND, UM, A ROAD THAT GOES AROUND IT. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING TO DO, UM, OH GOSH, MAYBE 800 TO A THOUSAND, UM, PETS, GET THEM VACCINATED, MICROCHIPPED, UM, MAKE SURE THEIR CHIPS ARE REGISTERED, UM, IN ANTICIPATION FOR THE 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH, UM, AUSTIN HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          ALSO, WE'RE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH SPECS FOR AN ADOPTION EVENT ON JUNE 3RD. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S THE FIRST WEEKEND IN JUNE, UM, SORRY, JUNE 6TH. 
          UM, AND WE'LL BE AT THE SPECS, THE NEW SPECS LOCATION OFF OF WEST 38TH STREET. 
          UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED. 
          THEY HAVE A REALLY LARGE EVENT SPACE, WE'RE NEED TO GO OUT AND VISIT IT. 
          BUT, UM, WE'LL HAVE QUITE A FEW DOGS OUT THERE FOR ADOPTION, WHICH WILL BE NICE. 
          'CAUSE IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF WHERE WE CURRENTLY OPERATE. 
          UM, SO KEEP YOUR EYES PEELED ON THAT. 
          OTHERWISE, UM, RIGHT. 
          30 DAY HORIZON, UM, IS WHERE WE'VE DEVELOPED A MARKETING PLAN, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON IMPLEMENTING THAT, UM, PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING OUT WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, FOR THE ENHANCED STAFFING, UM, WE'RE RELAUNCHING OUR KENNEL CLEANING STUDY. 
          UM, UH, WE'RE DOING IT FOR A COUPLE REASONS. 
          AND I BELIEVE, UM, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD ASKED ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, WE'VE READJUSTED THE SCHEDULES FOR THE CLEANING STAFF. 
          THEY WERE, UM, WORKING ON A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL SCHEDULES. 
          AND NOW, UM, WE'VE TIGHTENED THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO WE WANNA REEVALUATE AND HAVE THEM DO THAT CLEANING STUDY TO SEE, UM, HOW MUCH TIME IS IT TAKING THEM TO CLEAN AND IS THAT EFFICIENT, AND IS THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM SPEED UP THAT CLEANING PROCESS. 
          UM, SO THAT IS CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE THIS WEEK. 
          YES. 
          DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING EXTRA TO THAT? NO, JUST AS, AS MONICA SAID, UM, WE, WE DID AN INITIAL STUDY, BUT THEN WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT JUST THE SCHEDULING AND THIS, LOOKING AT, AT SOME OF THE INITIAL RESULTS, UM, AND THE SCHEDULING ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENED BE AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC. 
          LIKE, WE WERE JUST REALLY NEEDING WORKERS TO GET IN. 
          AND SO WE WERE ADJUSTING SCHEDULES BASED OFF PEOPLE, BUT LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD DONE PRE PANDEMIC, WE REALLY HAD SET SCHEDULES AT CERTAIN TIMES TO ENSURE COVERAGE ALL HOURS. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DID IS WE REVERTED BACK TO THAT OLD WAY OF HOW WE DID BUSINESS, BECAUSE NOW THAT WE'RE, UH, WILLING, NOT GONNA, UH, NOT IN THE PANDEMIC, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, UH, WE ARE, WE'RE, WE ARE STILL IN THE BUSINESS OF ANIMAL WELFARE, SO WE'VE ADJUSTED THOSE SCHEDULES SO THAT WAY WE HAVE MORE COVERAGE. 
          AND ONCE WE DID THAT, WE'RE LIKE, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND RELAUNCH IT. 
          ESPECIALLY FILL IN THE GAPS WHERE WE SAW, LIKE WHEN, WHEN THE STUDIES WERE BEING FILLED OUT, JUST TO TELL, GET, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STAFF, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, SO REALLY LOOK, FOCUS ON THESE AREAS SO THAT WAY WE HAVE BETTER INFORMED. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONDUCTED THE FIRST ROUND. 
          WE GOT SOME INITIAL RESULTS. 
          WE WANNA JUST DO IT AGAIN JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. 
          SURE. 
          JUST TO, UH, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS INCORPORATING SORT OF THESE AREAS WHERE WE DO HAVE, UM, ANIMALS THAT ARE STAYING LONGER, SO LIKE IN THE HOLDING AREA. 
          SO WE TAKE CARE OF THOSE ANIMALS FIRST, AND SO THEY'LL HAVE INSIDE OUT, OUTSIDE ACCESS ALONG WITH THE, YOU KNOW, ANY DOG THAT MIGHT BE, UM, IN, IN, IN A CRATE. 
          AND THEN FOCUS ON THEM MOVING TO THE ACTUAL CLEANING OF KENNELS AND SEEING HOW LONG THAT TAKES US AS WELL. 
          SO TO TRY AND INCORPORATE THAT WHOLE CONTINUUM OF CARE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TO ALL OUR ANIMALS WITHIN OUR CARE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, THEN AS FAR AS, UH, PROCESS IMPROVEMENT, UM, WE'RE FINALIZING DATES WITH MADDIE'S FUND, UH, FOR THAT CLINIC CONSULTATION, UH, FOR THE EFFICIENCY OF SPAY NEUTER. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF ANIMAL WELFARE CONFERENCES FOR THE LAST MONTH, SO THEY'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY ON THAT. 
          AND WE'LL FINALIZE THAT DATE, UM, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT NEXT TIME, UH, AT OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT, DEVELOPING A COMMUNICATION STRATEGY FOR, UM, KENNEL SPACE PROTOCOLS. 
          SO WHEN WE ARE, HAVE DOGS AND CRATES, WHEN WE HAVE DOGS AND NON-PUBLIC KENNELS, HOW ARE WE, UM, LETTING OUR COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM, UM, HOW THEY CAN HELP, UM, UH, IS, UH, HOW THEY CAN HELP WITH THAT SPACE ISSUE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PROCURING BERT. 
          UM, IT'S A FOSTER MANAGEMENT TOOL, UM, SO TO HELP THE FOSTER TEAM SO THEY CAN SEND MORE, UM, ANIMALS TO FOSTER SPECIFICALLY THOSE LARGE DOGS TO CREATE SHELTER SPACE, UM, BEYOND, UM, THE SHELTER WALLS. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO PROCURING PETZEL, WHICH IS A PET ADOPTION FOLLOW UP TOOL TO HELP KEEP THOSE PETS IN HOMES WHEN WE DO SEND THEM HOME, UM, AND, AND KEEP THEM THERE, UH, SO WE DON'T HAVE THEM COMING BACK. 
          UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE FOSTER PROGRAM, WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH, UM, UH, DEVELOPING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY PLAN AND KEEPING THE FOSTER TEAM ACCOUNTABLE TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROMOTING, UH, 
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THREE DOGS, UM, A DAY, UH, TO FOSTER. 
          SO WE CAN, AGAIN, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LARGE DOGS GOING TO FOSTER. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WILL IN THE NEXT MONTH BE LAUNCHING THAT DOG DAY OUT FOUR, FOUR TO FIVE DAYS A WEEK. 
          OH, SORRY, I KEPT TALKING AND I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WASN'T ON THE SAME PAGE AS US. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          UH, AND THEN DEVELOP A PLAN, UH, FOR REOPENING INTAKE. 
          IT'S AN ONGOING PROCESS. 
          UM, WE HAD, UH, STARTED PILOTING SOME PIECES WHEN, UM, WE HAD TOO MANY ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING MORE ANIMALS IN OUR POPULATION BALANCE IS ABOVE A HUNDRED PERCENT, SO MORE ANIMALS ARE LEAVING THAN COMING IN, UH, TO, TO WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          UM, WHICH THIS MONTH WE'VE BEEN LOOK, TRACKING THAT EACH WEEK. 
          UM, THIS MONTH WE'VE BEEN, UH, MAKING OUR GOALS, WHICH IS GOOD. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT MOMENTUM WILL CONTINUE, UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE EMPTY YOUR SHELTER EVENT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN, UH, REOPENING OUR INTAKE PROCESS. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH A PA AND COMMUNITY-BASED SOLUTIONS. 
          UM, AND THEN SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE, UM, JUST UPDATING SOCIAL, UM, MESSAGING, UH, AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE A PLAN IMPLEMENTED FOR SOCIAL. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING, UM, ALL THE COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, UM, ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SHELTER, OUR NEEDS, AND HOW PEOPLE CAN HELP. 
          UM, 60, UH, AND 90 DAY PLAN. 
          UM, I WON'T READ THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, BUT THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE JUST EXPANDING ON, UH, EACH OF THOSE PIECES THAT WE, UM, JUST TALKED ABOUT AND, UM, UH, MAKING THEM MORE, UH, SEVEN DAY A WEEK OPERATIONS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, UM, I THINK IT, IS THERE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE ON ANY OF THE INFORMATION ? UM, FIRST OF ALL, VERY IMPRESSED. 
          Y'ALL ARE CRUSHING IT ON SO MANY LEVELS. 
          UM, TWO MONTHS AGO YOU SAID THAT YOU ANTICIPATED 90 DAYS FOR OPEN INTAKE. 
          I THINK THAT AT THE TIME I REMEMBER THINKING, THAT SOUNDS VERY AMBITIOUS, BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS NOW 'CAUSE I MM-HMM. 
          ROBIN KAZ COMES AND SHE BRINGS UP GOOD POINTS EVERY MONTH, RIGHT? I GET SICK TO MY STOMACH THINKING ABOUT DOGS DYING SLOW, PEOPLE DEATHS ON THE STREET. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT KIND OF ANTICIPATION DO WE HAVE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA START OPENING AND TAKE? AND JUST LIKE QUICK SOAPBOX MOMENT, RIGHT BEFORE THIS, I WAS TALKING ABOUT MY BACKGROUND IN HOUSTON, AND THE, THE WORST THING WE CAN DO IS GET TO THE POINT AS A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE SEE A STRAY DOG AND THINK, NOBODY'S GONNA HELP ME, SO I'M NOT GONNA HELP THEM. 
          AND I, I FEAR THAT WE'RE THERE. 
          UM, SO YEAH,  YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND RIGHT, AND WE LOOKED AT THE ADOPTION NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL BELOW 20, 25 LEVELS AND SOME, SOME OF THE RIGHT, THE, YOU SEE THE DECREASE IN ADOPTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO TAKING IN LESS ANIMALS, BUT THAT'S STILL BELOW. 
          SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT MOMENTUM AND IT'S STARTING TO GO FORWARD, RIGHT? WE'RE PUTTING THE PIECES INTO PLACE SPECIFICALLY WITH, UM, RIGHT. 
          HAVING ADOPTION PROMO PROMOS, COMMUNICATING OUT TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THOSE PROMOTIONS ARE, AND THAT WE NEED THEIR HELP. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S RETRAINING OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE HERE AND WE NEED THEM AND THEY NEED TO COME HELP US, IS ONE PIECE OF IT, BUT IT'S ALSO BUILDING CAPACITY BEYOND OUR WALLS, RIGHT? WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY WHY WE HAVE 300 ANIMALS AND FOSTER, THAT'S AMAZING. 
          UM, FOR THE SHELTER OF OUR SIZE, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE CLOSER TO A THOUSAND. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THOSE BIG DOGS. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH OUR, UM, PLACEMENT TEAMS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF THOSE ANIMALS GOING TO FOSTER TO BUILD THAT CAPACITY. 
          WE KNOW IF A DOG GOES TO FOSTER, EVEN IF IT'S A DOG DAY OUT AFTERNOON, OR IT'S IN LONGER TERM, UM, THAT INCREASES, UM, THOSE DOGS GETTING ADOPTED, RIGHT? AND THE LONGER THEY'RE THERE, THE, THE FASTER THEY SEEM TO GET ADOPTED. 
          UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE FOCUS IS, IS HOW DO WE BUILD THAT CAPACITY? AND AS WE'RE BUILDING THAT, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF STILL, YOU KNOW, AND WE SAW THIS WITH ALL OF THE, UM, SHELTERS AFTER THE PANDEMIC, EVERYBODY WAS KIND OF BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, RIGHT? AND YOU'VE GOTTA GET THAT OUTCOME MOVING AND GET THE, THE INVENTORY OF ANIMALS MOVING OUT SO THAT YOU CAN START BRINGING THEM IN. 
          SO THAT IS A PRIORITY TO ME. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          I, I DO NOT THINK LEAVING ANIMALS ON THE STREET IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          UM, WE, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY NEED TO BE ASKING OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP US, AND THEY HAVE BEEN HELPING US. 
          UM, BUT HOW DO WE CONTINUE MOVING THAT WITHOUT, UH, WAREHOUSING ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER 
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AND HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, 50 CRATES THAT WAS UNMANAGEABLE, RIGHT? WE DON'T GET EXTRA STAFF WHEN WE HAVE CRATES. 
          WE DON'T GET EXTRA FUNDING FOR CRATES, BUT 50 EXTRA DOG CRATES THAT, THAT'S AN ENTIRE KENNEL OF DOGS THAT WE HAVE LIVING IN A CRATE, WHICH IS EVEN HARDER TO CLEAN. 
          SO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          BUT I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE. 
          I WISH I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU IN 30 DAYS WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD TO GO, BUT, UM, IT, IT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME, AND WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. 
          THANK YOU BY CHAIR. 
          IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING WHAT YOU JUST MEN MENTIONED THAT, UH, SO THERE ARE 300 FOSTERS IN FOR THE SIZE OF THE CITY, UH, SHELTER. 
          IT SHOULD REALLY BE A THOUSAND. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE A GOAL OF, OF WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU COULD ACHIEVE THAT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          UH, WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACHIEVE THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I WOULD LOVE TO YOU TALK TOMORROW. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO ACHIEVE IT TOMORROW FOR SURE. 
          UH, BUT I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT'S THE, THE SLOW BUILD WE NEED TO GET USED TO SENDING THOSE ANIMALS OUT. 
          BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BUILD OUR CAPACITY, RIGHT? WE HAVE FOUR FOSTER COORDINATORS, UM, DOING THIS. 
          SO THAT'S WITH THE BERT PIECE, WHICH RIGHT, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS IT, IT TAKES A MINUTE. 
          UM, SO ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO PROCURE THAT, THEN WE WILL BUILD OUT THE BERT SYSTEM, WHICH IS BASICALLY PUTTING ALL OF OUR SOPS AND PROCESSES INTO IT. 
          UM, SO THAT WAY THAT CAN DO THE BACKEND WORK FOR OUR STAFF SO THEY CAN REALLY FOCUS ON IDENTIFYING THE ANIMALS THAT NEED TO GO TO FOSTER AND THEN SENDING THEM TO FOSTER, UH, WHERE THE BERT SYSTEM WILL, UM, DO THE BACKEND SUPPORT OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM FOSTERS, UH, GETTING THEM ADOPTED, SCHEDULING THEM IN FOR SPAY NEUTER. 
          IT'LL ALL DO THAT EXTRA PIECE FOR US. 
          UM, SO THAT WILL GIVE US THAT EXTRA BANDWIDTH TO SUPPORT MORE ANIMALS IN FOSTER. 
          SO, SO HOW LONG WOULD, DOES IT TAKE TO BUILD THAT PROCESS? DO WORD OR DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA ON THE, THE PROCUREMENT PIECE OF IT? SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SPECIALIZED, THE CITY PROCUREMENT WORK GROUP LOOKING THROUGH SORT OF HOW WE CAN GET THROUGH THAT IN ORDER, ESSENTIALLY IT SEEMS THAT THEY, UM, AND WE'VE ALREADY SECURED IT FROM SORT OF LIKE A, A, A, UM, LETTER THAT BASICALLY DECLARES THAT THEY ARE A SOLE SOURCE TYPE SERVICE. 
          SO ONCE WE ARE, NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT, WE JUST WORK WITH CENTRAL PROCUREMENT IN ORDER, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE INVOICE FROM, WE'VE MET WITH THEM HOW THEY CAN INCORPORATE INTO OUR SYSTEMS. IT'S REALLY JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IMPLEMENTATION DOESN'T TAKE LONG AFTER THAT. 
          PROCUREMENT'S OVER, I, I WOULD EXPECT IMPLEMENTATION FULL IMPLEMENT FULL IMPLEMENTATION TO PROBABLY TAKE 60 DAYS FULLY. 
          RIGHT? WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES ALREADY PUT TOGETHER, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT A FOSTER HANDBOOK, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THOSE PIECES THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA FEED INTO THERE. 
          UM, SO THAT BERT CAN, CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT IT'LL BE MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN THERE SO THEY CAN ACTIVELY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF ALL THE PEOPLE. 
          RIGHT NOW, OUR FOSTER TEAM SPENDS THE MAJORITY OF THEIR DAY ANSWERING QUESTIONS FROM FOSTERS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          UM, UH, SO THAT'S, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT PIECE AWAY. 
          SO IT'LL JUST, IT JUST TAKES PUTTING ALL THAT INFORMATION, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY GET IT UP AND RUNNING AT LEAST PARTIALLY, UM, WITHIN 30 DAYS, BUT WHERE IT'S REALLY, UM, MAKING A DIFFERENCE FOR THEM, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE 60 DAYS I WOULD EXPECT. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE BY, UM, SO WE ARE MAY, SO MAYBE BY THE END OF THE SUMMER. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE END OF, END OF JULY, AUGUST. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOPEFULLY FINGER, DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT, WHITNEY, RIGHT? BECAUSE I WORK IN GOVERNMENT. 
          THAT'S . 
          , UH, COMMISSIONER, ER, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. 
          UM, I, MY QUESTION IS GOING BACK TO WHAT, UH, ROBIN KATZ WAS TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, AND I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, SPEAK WITH THE 3 1 1 OPERATORS ABOUT SCRIPTS AND TELLING PEOPLE, UM, TO LEAVE DOGS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, OR THAT THEY CAN'T BE INTAKED BECAUSE, UM, THE SHELTER IS FULL. 
          SO JUST WONDERING WHERE YOU MIGHT BE WITH THAT. 
          SO WE MEET WITH 3 1 1 MONTHLY. 
          UM, WHENEVER WE RECEIVE FEEDBACK LIKE THAT, WE'LL SHARE IT WITH THEM SO THAT THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEIR AMBASSADORS ARE GOING BY THE SCRIPTS THAT WE PROVIDED. 
          UM, WE, WE, WE'VE TOLD THEM TO NOT TELL PEOPLE TO JUST LEAVE IT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          LIKE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO SECURE IT, WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT CALL TO US AS A SERVICE REQUEST AND THEN TRY TO GET SOMEONE OUT THERE AS SOON AS WE CAN. 
          UM, UH, YEAH, SO WHENEVER WE HEAR THAT, SO LIKE, I, I, I WROTE THOSE DOWN SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET WITH OUR, I'LL GET WITH OUR LIAISON AND LET THEM KNOW THAT 
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THAT'S WHAT IS STILL BEING HEARD BY, BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          AND SO THAT WAY WE CAN, UM, AGAIN, JUST SHARING THEY, UH, IT'S NOT EXCUSED, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH DIFFERENT TURNOVERS THAT, THAT THEY SOMETIMES WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, THE COALITION YOU MENTIONED, WHO ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THAT? UH, THE COALITION IS MADE UP OF, UM, UH, AUSTIN LOST AND FOUND, UH, AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, UH, A TX RESCUE, UM, AS WELL AS VARIOUS VOLUNTEERS, UM, SHELTER VOLUNTEERS, UH, AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICE VOLUNTEERS, UH, AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          AND I'M PROBABLY MISSING A FEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT I, I'M JUST MISSING MM-HMM . 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I WAS LOOKING ON THE 30 DAY PLAN AND KIND OF A FOLLOW UP ABOUT THE, A PLAN TO REOPEN INTAKE. 
          UM, AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY BASED SOLUTIONS LOOK LIKE, UM, AND IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER VOLUNTEERS AND GROUPS TO WORK, UM, OR PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON, ON THAT PIECE AS WELL. 
          YEAH, SO ON SOME OF THE, UM, ON THE COMMUNITY-BASED SOLUTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS, UM, IS THERE A PIECE OF, UH, THE INTAKE THAT, UM, A PA CAN KIND OF HELP US WITH, RIGHT? WHETHER THAT'S, UM, OWNER SURRENDERS THAT ARE NEEDING MEDICAL, UM, OR THAT WE CAN JUST KIND OF BYPASS THE SHELTER, UM, OR JUST OWNER SURRENDERS IN GENERAL. 
          SO THAT'S STILL SOMETHING WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH. 
          UH, A CHALLENGE IS LOOKING AT THE DATA TO SEE, UM, WHAT ANIMALS WERE ACTUALLY TAKING IN, WHAT ANIMALS WERE NOT TAKING IN. 
          UM, SO THAT, UH, THEY'RE ABLE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT IS GONNA MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT, UM, FOR THE SHELTER AND HELP US. 
          UH, WE DID JUST SIGN, UM, JUST, JUST ENTERED IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM, UH, TO LOOK AT THAT DATA AND, UM, REALLY PUT THAT TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHERE ARE OUR PAIN POINTS SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT US, UM, AND GET THOSE ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTER OR BYPASS THE SHELTER ALTOGETHER. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, AS FAR AS INPUT, UM, IF THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE THOUGHTS ON COMMUNITY-BASED SOLUTIONS, UM, I AM ALWAYS OPEN, SO FEEL FREE TO EMAIL AND I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU. 
          AND THAT AGREEMENT, UM, THAT YOU SAID, IS THAT WITH, THAT'S WITH A PA, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, FOR SURE. 
          COMMISSIONER LE, IT'S NOT A QUESTION, BUT IN HELPING ANSWER, UM, IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COALITION, YOU CAN GO TO FOUR ATX ANIMALS.ORG AND THERE'S AN ABOUT PAGE ON THERE THAT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANTED NO. 
          ABOUT THE COALITION AND WHO'S ON IT AND WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT MAKES IT SIMPLE, . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY OTHER, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WITH REGARD TO FOSTERS, UM, MY, UM, FOSTER WAS ADOPTED LAST WEEK AND HAD A BACKUP AND, UM, I'M HELPING ANOTHER FOSTER GET, ADOPT, HOPEFULLY GET ADOPTED. 
          BUT, UM, MAYBE A QUICK SOLUTION IS TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT LIST. 
          I TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD, THAT YOU DROPPED PEOPLE OFF BECAUSE I DO NOT GET THE FOSTER NOTICES BECAUSE I FORGOT TO CHECK A BOX ON A TIMELY BASIS ONE DAY. 
          SO I FIND MY FOSTERS BY LOOKING AT, SAY, CLASSIC POSTS AND THEN FINDING ONE THAT WAY. 
          SO MAYBE JUST TRYING TO, IF IT'S, THEY'RE STILL THERE, MAYBE REACHING OUT TO THEM AGAIN. 
          UM, I DID SEE SOMETHING ON A NEXTDOOR POST SAYING, WELL, I USED TO, UM, FOSTER, BUT I DON'T GET THE FOSTER EMAILS ANYMORE. 
          SO THAT COULD BE LIKE A REALLY QUICK WIN FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH FOSTERING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE 
          [3. Staff briefing regarding Austin Animal Service’s Strategic Plan One Year Update. Presentation  by Monica Dangler, Director, Austin Animal Services. ]
GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. 
          UM, PAT VAL WOULD BE REMOTE IF SHE'S ON. 
          OH, IS THAT THREE? NO, THREE IS THE STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? AM I ON, THIS IS  TODAY. 
          IT'S, AM I SUPPOSED TO SPEAK NOW? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I AM GOING TO SPEAK ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH, UM, I PARTICIPATED IN THE WORKING GROUP THAT CREATED THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE WORKING GROUP, I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT 
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WE DIDN'T SET NUMERIC GOALS FOR THE GOALS. 
          I WAS PLEASED THAT WE SPENT AS MUCH TIME AS WE DID ON THE WORDS THAT WENT INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE DID NOT ACTUALLY COME UP WITH NUMERIC GOALS. 
          HOWEVER, I SEE THAT IN THIS REPORT THERE IS SOME INFORMATION REGARDING, UH, SPAY NEUTER NUMBERS. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND THEN TIE IT INTO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, THERE IS A PLACE IN THE REPORT THAT SAYS INCREASE PRE-PAY NEUTER BY 34.9% FROM FISCAL YEAR 24 TO 25. 
          UM, THAT SOUNDS IMPRESSIVE, AND I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT OR NOT FOR THE FACT THAT I THINK THE GOOD SIX, UM, FUNDING CAME IN AROUND THAT TIME AND SO MUCH OF THAT INCREASE, MAYBE DUE TO HAVING MORE MONEY AND, AND CONTRACTING WITH GOOD FIX, WHICH IT'S STILL A GOOD THING THAT WE DID THIS AS A COMMUNITY, THAT WE GOT THE FUNDING AND THAT GOOD FIX CAME AND, AND THE STAFF WORKED WITH GOOD FIX. 
          HOWEVER, UM, INCREASING FREE SPAY NEUTER BY 34.9% WHEN WE HAD TO PAY FOR IT AND DIDN'T. 
          UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO CONTINUE. 
          UM, MAKES ME WONDER HOW, HOW MANY SPAY N SPAYS AND NEU ARE WE GETTING EMANCIPATE INCREASE 'CAUSE THEY WERE WAY DOWN AT ONE POINT. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF, UH, A QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SEE ADDRESSED IN THE DISCUSSION. 
          UM, MY OTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE 11,112 SURGERIES. 
          UM, AND I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION. 
          WHAT WAS THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN EMANCIPATE AND GOOD FIX? HOW MUCH OF THAT INCREASE IS RELATED TO GETTING NEW MONEY? WILL THAT NEW MONEY CONTINUE? AND THEN I'D LIKE TO TIE IT INTO SETTING GOALS BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, IN FUTURE YEARS, WHAT ARE OUR GOALS FOR CONTINUING TO INCREASE SPAY NEUTER? 'CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOOD FIX JUST HELPED US CATCH UP TO THE LOWER NUMBERS WE WERE DOING FOR MANY YEARS. 
          UM, CAN WE ADVOCATE FOR A, CONTINUING THE FUNDING THAT WE HAD AND B, INCREASING THAT FUNDING TO MEET, UM, A NUMERICAL. 
          SO, UM, I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, UM, PERHAPS THESE ISSUES WILL BE ANSWERED. 
          THESE QUESTIONS I HAVE WILL BE ANSWERED IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE I'D LIKE TO SEE IF, THANK YOU, PAT. 
          LET'S, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR ANY BUZZER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR A BRIEFING ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS JASON GARZA AT THE ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, THE OTHER PRESENTATION. 
          SO, UH, YES. 
          UH, TODAY WE'RE HAPPY TO PRESENT SORT OF A ONE YEAR UPDATE ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          UM, THE, UH, ME AND, UH, MELISSA WILL WILL BE DOING THIS PRESENTATION AGAIN, UM, BACK IN MARCH OF, UH, 27TH OF LAST YEAR, WE, UM, TOOK THE PLAN TO COUNCIL. 
          UM, SO WE'LL GIVE, GO AHEAD AND, UH, WELL, I'LL LET MELISSA GO AHEAD AND GO OVER THE AGENDA FOR THIS. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MELISSA POOLE, CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          SO WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A SHORT PRESENTATION FOR YOU. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL COVER KIND OF THE BACKGROUND ON THE PLAN, UM, A SUMMARY OF IT, UH, PROGRESS HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS FROM THIS PAST YEAR, UM, AND THEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND THEN ALLOW SOME TIME FOR QUESTIONS. 
          SO, UH, THE SUJI PLAN, UM, REALLY THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON FUTURE INITIATIVES AND DECISIONS FOR AUSTIN, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          IT WILL INFORM OUR RESOURCES, OUR MOST NEEDED, WHAT MEASURES TO TARGET, AND HOW WE COLLABORATE WITH PARTNERS, UM, ON VARIOUS ANIMAL WELFARE ISSUES. 
          THE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED OVER AN EIGHTH MONTH PERIOD THAT INCLUDED FEEDBACK FROM STAFF, VOLUNTEERS, UM, AREA PARTNERS AND THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS. 
          UM, THAT FEEDBACK DIRECTLY INFORMED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DOCUMENT AND EXTERNAL, AND AN EXTERNAL CONSULTANT WAS HIRED IN ORDER TO SORT OF PUT TOGETHER THE FINAL PLAN. 
          AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL OF LAST YEAR. 
          SO IN THE PAST YEAR, ANIMAL SERVICES HAS BEGUN, UH, THE WORK OUTLINED IN THE PLANT AND MEET THE PRIORITIES AND GOALS OF ITS OUTCOMES. 
          OKAY, SO JUST, UM, A REMINDER ABOUT THE, HOW THE PLAN IS SET UP. 
          WE HAVE SIX FOCUS AREAS OR PRIORITIES THAT INCLUDE HUMANE CARE, OPEN INTAKE, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, SPAY AND NEUTER, 
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LIVE RELEASE, AND STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS. 
          SO EACH GOAL OR EACH AREA HAS A GOAL, UH, SEVERAL GOALS. 
          THERE ARE 18 GOALS IN TOTAL AND 64 STRATEGIES TO HELP US TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. 
          SO, AS MELISSA MENTIONED, UH, THE SIX PRIORITY AREAS HAVE VARIOUS GOALS ON EACH, UM, I'LL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND OF EACH PRIORITY AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT, THAT HAVE, UH, OCCURRED IN THE PAST YEAR. 
          SO FIRST WITH HUMANE CARE HAD FOUR GOALS WITHIN 11, 11 DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. 
          UM, UH, ANIMAL SERVICE IS TASKED WITH ME AND ANIMAL PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS, AND ENSURE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ANIMALS IN SHELTER AND FOSTER CARE BY PROVIDING ENRICHMENT, BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT AND WELL-MAINTAINED FA FACILITIES. 
          SO TO INCREASE ENRICH ENRICHMENT, SOCIALIZATION AND BEHAVIORAL SERVICES, WE'VE DONE THE FOLLOWING. 
          WE'VE EXPANDED OUR PLAYGROUP ACTIVITIES BY RUNNING MULTIPLE PLAYGROUP EACH DAY, AND IN AND INCLUDING DOGS WITH HIGHER LEVEL BEHAVIORAL CHALLENGES TO THE SESSIONS. 
          WE'VE IMPLEMENTED MORE MEDICAL CHECKS IN VARIOUS ANIMAL POPULATIONS IN THE SHELTER TO IDENTIFY SICK ANIMALS SOONER. 
          AND WE REASSIGNED A CURRENT EMPLOYEE TO AN INT INTERIM CONSULTANT ROLE. 
          UH, THIS STAFF MEMBER, UM, FOLLOWS, UH, ANIMALS THAT ENTER THE SHELTER AND IDENTIFIES POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT MIGHT PREVENT OR DELAY A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME AND MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO LEADERSHIP ON WAYS TO BEST SUPPORT THAT ANIMAL, UH, TO ADDRESS TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES IN ANIMAL BEHAVIORS. 
          WE'VE, UH, BEGAN IMPLEMENTED IMPLEMENTING ANNUAL TRAINING FOR STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS, UH, HANDLING TRAINING, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO TO ENHANCE OUR SHELTER, CLEANLINESS AND SANITATION, WE'VE REVISED THE CLEANING AND DISINFECTING, SOP. 
          UM, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED WEEKLY INSPECTIONS, UM, BUT WITH THE GOAL OF GETTING THOSE DONE DAILY, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW STAFFING IS ON A, ON A DAY OR CALL OUTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY NOT GET TO INSPECTIONS ON THAT BECAUSE LEADS AND SUPERVISOR ARE ALSO CLEAN. 
          BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TRY TO DO AT LEAST TWO TO THREE TIMES A WEEK. 
          BUT AGAIN, WITH THE GOAL OF GETTING IT DONE DAILY, UM, TO HELP IMPROVE OUR FACILITY IN SPACE, UH, WE'VE SECURED A THIRD PARTY ARCHITECT TO DEVELOP CONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR A SMALL DOG KENNEL. 
          THIS WAS FROM PREVIOUS FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THIS, UH, OUR BUDGET SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          WELL, NOT ACTUALLY TO OUR BUDGET. 
          IT WAS DONE TO OUR BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED, AND I'VE, I'VE PROVIDED, UH, SOME INFORMATION ON THIS PREVIOUSLY. 
          WE ARE PART, STILL, PART FINGERS CROSSED, WE ARE STILL PART OF THE PROPOSED BOND, UH, PACKAGE. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH THE REQUEST THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED HAS GONE DOWN, WE ARE STILL SORT OF IN THE RUNNING. 
          AND, UM, WE JUST GOT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOND LOGIC ADVISORY TASK FORCE. 
          UM, WE ARE STILL INCLUDED IN THAT RECOMMENDATION IS NOW BEING BOARDED UP TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          WITH REGARDS TO SPAY NEUTER, UM, THERE ARE TWO GOALS, UM, AND THEN WE ARE TASKED WITH REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STRAY UN UNDOES AND UNWANTED ANIMALS BY IMPROVING AND INCREASING SPAY NEUTER SERVICES. 
          UM, ONE GOAL WAS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF FREE AND SUBSIDIZED SPAY NEUTER SURGERIES FOR OWNED ANIMALS. 
          AND WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT, UM, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITY ANIMALS BY 34.9%. 
          SO, UH, 11,112 STERILIZATION SURGERIES WERE PERFORMED, AND THESE WERE DONE THROUGH OUR VARIOUS CONTRACTS, MAINLY THROUGH EMANCIPATE AND, AND WITH GREATER GOOD CHARITIES. 
          UH, THE OTHER GOAL WAS TO INCREASE OUR SPAY NEW SURGERIES IN-HOUSE. 
          SO THOSE THAT ARE, UM, HAPPENING IN, UH, FOR STRAY AND UNDE ANIMALS. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH WE DO SEE A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO WORK ON REACHING THE PLAN'S GOAL OF INCREASING STERILIZATION SURGERIES. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR STAFF AND TRYING TO HAVE SURGERIES ON THE WEEKENDS. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO CONTINUE TO UTILIZE OUR, UH, CONTRACT WITH AUSTIN HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          STERILIZED COMMUNITY ACCOUNTS KEEP DOING THAT. 
          SO, UH, WITH REGARDS TO OPEN INTAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SECURED, UH, CONTRACT WITH OUR SMALL DOG FOR, TO CONSTRUCT A SMALL DOG, UH, KENNEL WITH DEDICATED OUTDOOR SPACE FOR THOSE, THOSE LITTLE GUYS AND ARE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN THE BOND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT WILL HELP, UM, BUILD PLANS TO SORT OF EXPAND, UH, OUR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO WORKED TO REMOVE BARRIERS FOR PET OWNERSHIP. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING, UH, THIS, THIS COMMISSION ACTUALLY DOES, HAS A WORKING GROUP CONSIST OF, OF, OF, WITH THE GOAL OF ADDRESSING POLICIES THAT AFFECT THE PET OWNERSHIP. 
          I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDED FOR TONIGHT. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS INCLUDING, BUT NOT RELATED TO YOU, IT SORT OF THE PET DEPOSITS, BREED RESTRICTIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE ARE SEEING, UM, OR HEARING FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE ARE ALSO TASKED, OH, I'M SORRY, I DID THINK I DID THESE BACKWARDS. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, WE'VE ALSO TO INCREASED THE TIMELINESS OF INTECH SUPPORT, WE'VE ADDED A GREETER ROLE. 
          UM, AND 
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BY ADDED, I MEAN WE'VE, WE'VE CREATED A GREETER ROLE POSITION WITHIN THE CURRENT, UH, FRAMEWORK OF OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM. 
          SO EVERYONE SHARES SORT OF A, A, A, THAT JOB. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE A WORKSTATION FOR THEM TO DO OTHER DUTIES WHEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF FOOT TRAFFIC IS SLOW. 
          WE'VE ALSO OFFERED THIS AS A, A VOLUNTEER ROLE. 
          SO IF THE VOLUNTEERS ARE ABLE TO SIT THAT, UH, CAPACITY, THEY CAN, WE'VE ALSO EXPANDED OUR PRC WALKUP HOURS. 
          SO, AND USUALLY IN THE PAST IT HAD BEEN 11 TO ONE FOR WALKUP HOURS. 
          NOW WE'VE EXPANDED THAT TO 11 TO FOUR AND HOPEFULLY TO SORT OF INCREASE THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT WAY WE CAN OFFER SUPPORT TO PEOPLE THAT ANYONE THAT NEED IT. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE ALSO, UM, TO EXPLORE, EXPAND THE CAPACITY OF ANIMAL HANDLERS IN THE SHELTER. 
          WE'RE OFFERING THAT ANNUAL TRAINING FOR STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS REALLY TO GET PEOPLE'S, UM, CONFIDENCE UP, YOU KNOW, HELPING THEM GET COMFORTABLE WITH ANIMALS SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOW THE ANIMAL BASICALLY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SHOW ALL THE GOOD QUALITY SETTING POTENTIAL ADOPTERS OR FOSTERS. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PET DETECTIVES THAT WE HAVE TO HELP WITH RETURN TO OWNERS. 
          SO WHENEVER WE HAVE VARIOUS LEADS THAT WE GET, EITHER THROUGH A MICROCHIP OR JUST, YOU KNOW, IF A PREVIOUS OF, UH, OWNER, UH, THE STRAY WE FIND IT HAS A MICROCHIP THAT LEADS TO VARIOUS OWNERS, WE WILL ABLE TO TRACK THAT LEAD DOWN, SEE IF, IF WE CAN REUNITE THAT PET INTO A HOME. 
          SO WITH LIVE RELEASE, UM, WE ARE TASKED WITH MAXIMIZING THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ARE ADOPTED. 
          WE ARE, UH, REALLY JUST ADOPTED RESCUE TRANSFERRED, BASICALLY SEEKING A SUCCESSFUL LIVE OUTCOME. 
          UM, THIS GOAL HAS, UH, THIS PRIORITY HAS THREE GOALS WITH 17 DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. 
          UH, WE ARE LOOKING AGAIN TO, UM, WE'VE HELD MULTIPLE ADOPTION EVENTS, INCLUDING OUR CARE, CLEARLY. 
          THE SHELTERS, UH, CITYWIDE ADOPTION EVENT THAT WE HAD BACK LAST, THE END OF LAST SUMMER ARE, UH, NAME YOUR PRICE ADOPTION EVENT THAT WE HAD JUST THIS PAST MARCH, UM, WITH THE EVENT THAT MONICA MENTIONED WITH THE ANIMAL WELFARE COALITION, UH, IN APRIL. 
          AND CURRENTLY, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED, WE WERE IN THAT VISTA PET FOUNDATION, UM, UH, EVENT GOING ON CURRENTLY. 
          WE'VE ALSO, UH, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE ENDURING, UM, SERVICE JAIL FOSTER PROGRAM THAT WE'VE DONE WITH, WITH, UH, TRAVIS STATE JAIL AND T-T-D-C-J. 
          UM, IT WAS, UH, HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL. 
          ALL THE DOGS THAT WE, UH, GRADUATE THROUGH THE PROGRAM ARE EITHER ADOPTED OR IN A FOSTER HOME. 
          WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A PLANNING MEETING TOMORROW TO IDENTIFY, GET THE DOGS READY FOR THE NEXT COHORT, UM, AND, AND GET THEM, UM, SET UP SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, GET SOME TIME AWAY FROM THE SHELTER, GET SOME EXTRA ATTENTION TO THEM. 
          IT IS ALSO BENEFICIAL, UH, TO, TO THE HANDLERS THEMSELVES. 
          I KNOW WITH, WITH, UH, DURING THE EVENT, WE HAD SOME OF THE, UH, ADOPTERS COME BY, SOME OF THE FOSTERS COME BY, AND SO, SO WE'RE SEEING THAT FAR, YOU KNOW, SO OUR HANDOFF WAS SOME, UH, PRETTY EMOTIONAL, SOME OF THE HANDLERS, AND SO IT WAS, IT WAS A NICE LITTLE THING TO WATCH. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO, THIS PAST SPRING, AS MONICA MENTIONED, IMPLEMENTED OUR DOGGY DAY OUT IN OUR PAJAMA PARTY, UH, HOPING TO EXPAND THAT A FEW WEEKS, SEEING HOW SUCCESSFUL IT IS, AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, WANTING TO MAKE IT A SEVEN DAY SORT OF, UH, OPTION FOR, FOR FOLKS WHO ARE SORT OF STILL ON THE FENCE IF THEY WANT PET OWNERSHIP OR NOT. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOTTEN AND INCREASED OUR, OUR, UH, KNOWLEDGE AND SORT OF EXPERIENCE WITH OUR NEW SHELTER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          YOU KNOW, AS YOU HAVE V ANYONE Y'ALL REMEMBER, IT WAS A, UH, LITTLE TRIAL GOING THROUGH IT, BUT WE'VE, UH, BEEN WORKING IT OUT. 
          AGAIN, GOING THROUGH AUDITS. 
          I THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE USED TO IT. 
          THERE ARE STILL THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, VENDOR ON ADDRESSING, BUT THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER THAN IT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY. 
          UM, FINALLY TO INCREASE AWARENESS, UH, AND BUILD COMMUNITY TRUST, WE'VE LAUNCHED THE THREE YEAR MARKETING PUBLIC, UH, RELATIONS PLAN. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR NAME OUT THERE MORE, YOU KNOW, BE MORE ENGAGING WITH, WITH, WITH THE PUBLIC, WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UM, BEING TRANSPARENT WITH SORT OF ALL OUR, OUR, OUR, UM, VARIOUS ISSUES THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED THE, THE COMMUNITY'S HELP ON. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO EXPAND OUR MICROCHIP SCANNING PROGRAM AND DEVELOPING OP OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN, UM, SORT OF LOOK AT WAYS TO, UH, DEVELOP TRANSPORT WITH LOCAL ANIMAL WELFARE PARTNERS. 
          AGAIN, UM, WITH REGARDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING TO ENSURE, UH, WE'RE TO ENSURE THAT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC AND ANIMALS AND, UM, ARE, ARE MAINTAINED BY PROVIDING VARIOUS RESOURCES NEEDED. 
          SO, UH, TO INTERACT SAFELY WITH ANIMALS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF THE PUBLIC RELATIONS PLAN IS, IS TO INCLUDE INFORMATION, UH, FOR THAT. 
          SO WHAT TO DO. 
          YOU MAY SEE IT, UH, A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS ANIMAL. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO IF YOU DO SEE A, A HURT ANIMAL, HOW TO APPROACH THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, FINALLY TO, UH, ASSIST WITH, WITH BEHAVIORAL CHALLENGES AND PET RETENTION, WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE TRAINING VOUCHERS AND ONLINE SUPPORT TO HELP OWNERS NAVIGATE SORT OF, UM, WHAT THEIR PET IS GOING THROUGH AND SORT OF TRYING TO KEEP THAT PET 
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RETENTION. 
          SO BEFORE LOOKING TO THE SHELTER AS THAT SORT OF LAST RESORT, UM, TO ASSURE A TIMELY RESPONSE TO ANIMAL WELFARE CALLS, WE'VE AGAIN, BEEN WORKING WITH THREE ON ONE TO ENHANCE OUR TRIAGE SYSTEM BY REVISING SCRIPTS, LOOKING AT SCRIPTS, SEEING, LOOKING AT HEARING, UM, VARIOUS RECORDINGS OF, OF CALLS, JUST TO SEE WHERE WE CAN DO PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS ON BOTH ENDS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WHERE WE SEE THINGS THAT MAY BE OUTTA WAY THAT WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT. 
          UM, WITH SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL, WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO DESIGNATE ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS AS EMERGENCY RESPONDERS. 
          SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GO AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UTILIZE THE TRAFFIC SYSTEMS IN THAT WAY. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO EX EXECUTED A NEW INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN CARE FOR ANIMAL SEIZED IN THEIR CRUELTY CASES. 
          UM, FINALLY TO, UH, OOPS, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, LASTLY, IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS INVOLVING AGGRESSIVE, UNHEALTHY ANIMALS, UH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING, UM, UH, COORDINATED WITH AUSTIN WILDLIFE RESCUE AND, AND WITH, UH, THE TEXAS GAME WARS TO PROVIDE, UH, REGULAR TRAINING TO OUR ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS FOR PROPER HANDLING OF ANIMALS THAT ARE REC RABIES VECTORS. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO A PART OF OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS PLAN. 
          WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING SORT OF, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY INFORMATION, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY WITH REGRET REGARD. 
          UM, SO YEAH, DOING A LOT OF, UH, VARIOUS THINGS, SORT OF TRYING TO EXPAND OUR CAPACITY AND EXPAND OUR REACH TO THE COMMUNITY, AND, UM, BECAUSE YEAH, TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT, UH, STATUS OF BEING AN ANIMAL FAMILY CITY. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL PUSH IT OVER TO, UH, MELISSA FOR THE FINAL PRIORITY. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS, THERE ARE THREE GOALS AND 11 STRATEGIES. 
          UM, AND THIS FOCUS AREA IS TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN WELL-TRAINED AND DEDICATED STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS BY PROVIDING THE TOOLS, RESOURCES, AND SUPPORT THEY NEED TO CREATE A CULTURE OF INCLUSION AND RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO THE FIRST GOAL IS TO ENHANCE WORKING CONDITIONS AND BUILD SKILLED, UH, SUPPORTED STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS. 
          SO, A REALLY BIG THING THAT WE DID THIS YEAR, UM, IS TO IMPLEMENT MONTHLY TRAINING DAYS. 
          SO FOR THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH, WE CLOSE, WE STILL TAKE CARE OF EMERGENCIES, BUT WE REALLY USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SEVERAL THINGS. 
          WE WORK AS A TEAM TO REALLY DO LIKE DEEP CLEANING AND ALL PULL TOGETHER TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS SO THAT ALL STAFF CAN BE PRESENT FOR THE TRAINING. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE DONE A SERIES OF TRAINING IN THE SAFETY ARENA. 
          SO WE'VE PROVIDED TRAINING ON, UH, CPR, FIRST AID, DEFIBRILLATOR TRAINING, STOP THE BLEED ON DOG HANDLING, AND ALSO COMPASSION FATIGUE. 
          UM, THEN WE TURN IT OVER. 
          SO THE WAY OUR AGENDA WORKS IS TYPICALLY IN THE MORNING WE'RE ALL HELPING TO CLEAN, AND THEN WE HAVE ALL STAFF TRAINING, AND THEN IN THE AF AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE, UH, SOME AWARD AND RECOGNITION, UM, AROUND THE LUNCH HOUR, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER AND DIVISIONS HAVE THEIR DIVISION SPECIFIC TRAINING. 
          SO THAT'S WHEN, UM, TRAINING HAPPENS. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THIS PAST TIME, UH, SURGERY TRAINING FOR OUR VET TECHS. 
          UM, ANIMAL PROTECTION HAS THEIR OWN TRAINING, SO IT REALLY PROVIDES AN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR MUCH NEEDED TRAINING FOR OUR FOLKS. 
          UM, WE ALSO, I'M GONNA DO THESE A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER. 
          I THINK, UM, FOR OUR SUPERVISORS AND LEADERSHIP TEAM, WE DID ALL, DID AN ASSESSMENT. 
          ALL OF OUR SUPERVISORS, EVERY SUPERVISOR, MANAGER, AND EXECUTIVE, WENT THROUGH, UM, KIND OF A WORKING STYLES EVALUATION AND COMMUNICATIONS TRAINING. 
          UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT TO HELP, YOU KNOW, IN LEADING, YOU KNOW, THE TEAMS WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR WE ALL IN THE VOLUNTEER SPACE. 
          THE NEXT STEP, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE SAFETY TRAINING, IS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT TO THE VOLUNTEERS AS WELL. 
          SO I'VE BEEN, UM, TALKING TO EMS, WHO WAS THE PROVIDER FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER TRAININGS, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO COME OUT AND INCLUDE THOSE IN SOME OF THE VOLUNTEER MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, SO THAT THEY GET SAFETY TRAINING AS WELL. 
          UM, WE ALSO WORKED ON COMMUNICATION WITH VOLUNTEERS. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR PROBABLY, OR HAVE HEARD ABOUT DISCORD, BUT WE'RE, WHAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IS WE'RE WORKING ON AN EXTERNAL SHAREPOINT SITE WHERE WE CAN HOUSE INFORMATION AND TRAININGS AND, UM, JUST HAVE A REALLY NICE PLATFORM THAT'S SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED WITH VOLUNTEERS IN MIND. 
          UM, ON THE NEXT GOAL, INCREASING MORALE AND SATISFACTION OF STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS, WE IMPLEMENTED A NEW AWARD AND RECOGNITION PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS WAS, UH, DEVELOPED, UM, BY THE TEAM. 
          WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EVERY WORK GROUP IN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          WE HAVE PEER-TO-PEER RECOGNITION THAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          WE HAVE EMPLOYEES, UM, UH, 
          [01:10:01]
THEY CAN NOMINATE FOR EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEES FOR EMPLOYEE THE QUARTER AWARD, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ANNUAL AWARD. 
          UM, SO, AND IT'S, UM, SO FAR REALLY WELL RECEIVED. 
          UH, WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE THAT, THAT CAME IN FROM LEAVE TO GET HIS EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER AWARD, AND HE WAS SO PROUD. 
          IT WAS JUST REALLY GOOD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM CAN DO, UH, WHEN IT'S WORKING WELL. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO DID A WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT SURVEY, SO THAT WAS SENT OUT TO ALL STAFF SO WE COULD GET A BASELINE AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THINGS WERE GOING WELL, AND, YOU KNOW, THE AREAS WE NEEDED TO FOCUS ON THE PAIN POINTS FOR OUR STAFF AND DEVELOPED AN ACTION PLAN IN RESPONSE TO THAT. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          ALRIGHT, ONE, ONE MORE BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD GOAL IS TO IMPROVE, UH, OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY. 
          SO WE, UM, REORGANIZED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT DID SEVERAL THINGS. 
          UM, ONE, WE HAD, WE ADDED SOME SUPERVISOR POSITIONS. 
          WE HAD SOME AREAS WHERE SUPERVISORS MAY HAVE HAD 18 DIRECT REPORTS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S JUST REALLY HARD FOR ANYONE TO MANAGE. 
          AND SO, UM, WE ADDED THOSE POSITIONS, REPURPOSING EXISTING VACANCIES IN ORDER TO GIVE EMPLOYEES THE TIME AND ATTENTION, UM, THAT THEY NEED. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS A BIG PART OF IT. 
          ALSO, JUST ALIGNING FUNCTIONS IN A WAY THAT MADE MORE OPERATIONAL SENSE AND CENTRALIZING, UH, THE SUPPORT SERVICES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT TO, INTO ITS OWN DIVISION WERE SOME OF THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. 
          UH, WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE, UH, BUDGET AND OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE TEAM IN THE CITY, AND THEY CAME OUT AND DID A DISCOVERY PROJECT FOR US. 
          AND WHAT THIS WAS, WAS LOOKING AT MAPPING THE WHOLE PROCESS FROM INTAKE TO OUTCOME AND ALL THE VARIOUS FORMS THAT THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS ANIMALS COME INTO THE SHELTER AND THE WAYS THAT THEY LEAVE WORKING WITH EVERY GROUP WITHIN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          AND AGAIN, UM, SO WE HAVE THIS REALLY WONDERFUL MIRO BOARD WITH ALL OF OUR PROCESSES OUTLINED NOW, BUT WE ALSO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT TEAM ON AREAS, AREAS WE MIGHT WANNA FOCUS AND IMPLEMENT A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT EFFORT. 
          SO WE HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE NOW HAVE A NEW MEMBER OF OUR TEAM THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE THAT'S GONNA HELP US LEAD A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT THAT'S BASED ON, UH, THAT INITIATIVE. 
          SO IN SUMMARY, WE'VE DONE A LOT THIS YEAR. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME, UH, THE HIGH HIGHLIGHTS AND THINGS WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF, OR, YOU KNOW, MONICA'S DOUGY DAY OUT AND OVERNIGHTS TO GIVE OUR DOGS THAT MU MUCH NEEDED REST, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM THE SHELTER. 
          AND THEN HOPEFULLY PULL IT SOME HEARTSTRINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, THE, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL END UP WANTING TO KEEP THEM THE ENDURING SERVICE PROGRAM, WHICH, UM, HAS BEEN SUCH A WONDERFUL THING TO BE A PART OF, TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE THAT IT MAKES IN THE LIVES, UM, OF THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE JAIL AND THE MEANING AND PURPOSE THAT THEY FIND, UM, AND THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT THEY BUILD WITH THEIR DOGS. 
          SEEING THEM GRADUATE THIS PAST MONTH WAS, UM, REALLY A WONDERFUL THING TO SEE AND BE A PART OF. 
          WE EVEN HAD, UM, A SPACEMAN REPORTER THAT ENDED UP ADOPTING ONE OF THE DOGS. 
          SO THAT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS STORY. 
          UM, IMPLEMENTING OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND THREE YEAR PUBLIC RELATIONS PLAN IS ANOTHER THING WE'RE PROUD OF. 
          UH, AND THE INCREASE IN THE SPAY AND NEUTER, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, IS A VERY LARGE INCREASE AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO THE PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH THAT HAVE MADE THAT POSSIBLE EMANCIPATE AND GREATER GOOD THROUGH THE GOOD FIX CLINICS THAT'S SPECIFIC TO OWNED ANIMALS. 
          SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT SPAY AND NEUTER OVERALL, INCLUDING THE CONTRACT WE HAVE WITH AUSTIN HUMANE SOCIETY, WHICH FOR COMMUNITY CATS, IT'S ABOUT 25%. 
          EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD NUMBERS. 
          SO WE'RE PROUD, PROUD OF THE WORK THERE. 
          UM, JASON TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITY IMPROVEMENT PLANS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE TRAINING DAYS HAVE BEEN AMAZING AND JUST WHAT WE NEEDED. 
          SO JUST SOME OTHER UPDATES. 
          WE HIRED STEPHANIE FRANCIS, SHE'S OUR NEW BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANT. 
          SHE'LL BE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN MOVING FORWARD. 
          I'LL BRING HER TO THE NEXT MEETING SO Y'ALL CAN MEET HER. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD INVOLVEMENT IN SOME WORKING GROUPS, AND SO SHE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO, TO CONTINUE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE THAT'S FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING MEASURES FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN, SO ABSOLUTELY WANT HER TO BE A PART OF THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN WHITNEY, THE GROUP THAT YOU TALKED TO ME ABOUT AS WELL ON THE POLICIES, THE PET FRIENDLY POLICIES. 
          SO, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A DASHBOARD, SO FINGERS CROSSED , OUR, OUR, OUR TARGET DATE IS TO RELEASE, RELEASE BY THE END OF MAY. 
          SO MORE TO COME VERY SOON. 
          [01:15:02]
SO, UM, AS, AS MELISSA MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING TO LAUNCH A DASHBOARD, UM, THAT WILL HAVE THIS INFORMATION THEN PROVIDE UPDATES. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER ASK THAT WE HAVE IS TO COLLABORATE WITH THIS BODY TO CREATE A WORKING GROUP THAT WILL DEVELOP, DEVELOP PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WILL THEN INFORM OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO LOOKING, UM, SO OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE ACTION TO DO THAT TODAY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S HELPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AS STAFF WOULD LOOK AT FOR A FUTURE MEETING. 
          AND THEN ALSO JUST, UM, KEEPING ON, KEEP ON, KEEP ON, UH, CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THE PLAN AND GETTING IMPLEMENTATION DONE AND WORKING ON, ON WAYS TO HIT ALL OUR SPECIFIC PRIORITIES. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          MR. DEL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BYE, CHAIR. 
          UM, GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          UH, I HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MELISSA. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UH, UH, FIRST RELATING TO THE TRAINING, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE TRAINING? DO YOU TAKE FEEDBACK FROM THE STAFF OF WHAT THEY WANT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK WHEN WE DID THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, ON THINGS THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED. 
          AND THEN ALSO WE'VE JUST IDENTIFIED SOME THINGS, SAFETY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AS WE TRY TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, A SAFETY PROGRAM FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          SO WE WANNA MAKE SAFETY A PART OF EVERY TRAINING THAT WE OFFER. 
          SO DO YOU USE, I, I GUESS YOU USED, UM, LIKE TRAIN THE TRAINER OR I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU PEOPLE WITHIN THE ANIMAL SERVICES TRAIN? WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH A DOG HANDLING TRAINING THAT WA THAT WAS IN HOUSE WITH, UM, OUR STAFF. 
          BUT, UM, EMS HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT. 
          WE'VE HAD THEM OUT AND THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS COMING WEDNESDAY. 
          I'M ALSO TALKING WITH THE CORPORATE SAFETY OFFICER TO SEE WHAT SERVICES THEY CAN PROVIDE TO US UNTIL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE DAY WE'LL HAVE A POSITION OF OUR OWN. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, THE OTHER THING I WAS, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING THAT WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS IMPROVEMENT, YOU, YOU GUYS ARE USING THE MIRROR BOARD MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND HOW YOU MAP OUT THE INTAKE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE OUTPUT, THE DIFFERENT STAGES. 
          AND WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THAT AND WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THAT? SO IT, THERE WERE SUPERVISORS AND STAFF FROM EVERY WORK GROUP IN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          SO THEY DID INTERVIEWS, THEY DID LOTS OF WORKING SESSIONS WHERE THEY WORKED AT ON IT TOGETHER. 
          UM, WE HAD, UM, JUST REALLY GREAT SUPPORT FROM THE BUDGET AND OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE TEAM TO FACILITATE THAT. 
          AND THEN THEY PUT TOGETHER A REALLY NICE REPORT OF THEIR FINDINGS FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, I, I WASN'T SURE IF I UNDERSTOOD. 
          SO BESIDES THE PEOPLE IN THE ANIMAL SERVICES, WERE THERE PEOPLE OUTSIDE FROM THE ANIMAL SERVICE AND PART OF THAT PROCESS PUTTING TOGETHER? NOT, NOT FOR THAT ONE, BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO MAP IS CURRENT STATE IN THE SHELTER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ALSO TO IDENTIFY THOSE PAIN POINTS. 
          SO WE, WE WANTED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS IT EXISTS, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY. 
          AND, UH, I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE DASHBOARD. 
          AND ALSO, UM, I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE, UH, SOMEONE, STEPHANIE FRANCIS TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS HER BACKGROUND? SO STEPHANIE HAS, UM, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN, UH, QUALITY ASSURANCE PROCESS IMPROVEMENT. 
          UM, SHE HAS A DEGREE IN HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AND A MASTER'S IN, AND I'M SORRY, I'VE FORGOTTEN WHAT IT'S IN. 
          BUT, UM, SHE ALSO WORKED FOR THE CITY BEFORE OKAY. 
          FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS AS A BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANT SENIOR, AND SUPERVISED A TEAM OF BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANTS. 
          SO SHE'S VERY EXPERIENCED. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE UPDATE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE WHOLE TEAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, JASON, YOU MENTIONED THAT AS IS STILL POTENTIALLY IN LINE FOR POTENTIAL BOND MONEY. 
          IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT WE, I, AT LEAST ME ESPECIALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO CHAMPION THAT TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          IS THERE A CHANCE OF GETTING JUST SOME SORT OF BLURB OF YEAH. 
          WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR? I SEND THAT TO THE COMMISSION SO THAT I CAN SEND IT TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY, HEY, LOVE THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          I CAN SEND THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOND ELECTION ADVISORY TASK FORCE THAT HAS THE BLURB, BUT ESSENTIALLY, SO WE ORIGINALLY HAD A REQUEST TO EXPAND OUR, OUR, OUR CAMPUS. 
          UM, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES AND SORT OF THE, WE WERE, WE WERE ADVISED THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, AND TO NOT PUSH BOND CAPACITY AND, AND SORT OF RAISE TAXES, WE, UH, THE, THE CRITERIA REALLY IS, IS IT SHOVEL READY? SO SHOVEL READY, BEING LIKE, HEY, WE NEED THIRD PARTY ARCHITECTS. 
          SO THE FUNDING THAT'S THAT'S INCLUDED IS GOING TO TRY TO SECURE THAT. 
          SO THAT WAY WE HAVE DEFINITIVE PLANS THAT WE CAN LOOK TO ANOTHER BOND PROJECT. 
          BUT WE CAN ALSO, AND 
          [01:20:01]
DON'T QUOTE, DON'T, DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL LOOKING WITH BOND COUNTS ON IT, BUT WE CAN SHOP AROUND FOR FUNDRAISING AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S WAYS THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SO PART OF IT INCLUDES LIKE ENCLOSING OUR DOG PLAY YARD AREA AS, UM, ADDITIONAL KENNELS REVAMPING OUR MEDICAL AREA. 
          I THINK, I BELIEVE I GAVE THAT PRESENTATION TO Y'ALL, BUT, BUT IT'S GONE DOWN TO 3 MILLION. 
          IT WENT FROM 40 TO THREE, SO IT KIND OF HURT MY HEART A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO HOPEFULLY KEEP THAT IN THERE FOR THE VOTERS TO YEAH. 
          ANYTHING YOU CAN SEND THAT I CAN HELP. 
          YEP. 
          PUSH WOULD BE GREAT. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, I, SORRY, I GOT CONFUSED. 
          SAID SOMETHING TO, I THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY. 
          NO, I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. 
          I'LL, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          UM, TWO THINGS. 
          UM, I HEARD THE MONEY THAT THE STATE HAD FOR SPAY NEUTER IS GONE AND HAS ALL BEEN AWARDED. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE, BUT IF IT IS TRUE, DID WE GET ANY? AND IF NOT, WHY? DO WE KNOW WHY? UM, YES, IT IS ALL GONE. 
          UH, THEY ALLOCATED, UM, ALL THE FUNDS AFTER THE FIRST DAY OF APPLICATIONS. 
          UM, NO ONE IN, UM, AUSTIN RECEIVED ANY FUNDING FOR SPAY NEUTER. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALSO AND MENTIONING THE STRATEGIC PLAN WORKING GROUP, UM, YOU WANTED TO DO, I BELIEVE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WORKING GROUP IS STILL A WORKING GROUP . 
          UM, IT IS NOT DISSOLVED. 
          SO THOSE OF US WHO ARE ON IT CAN CONTINUE IN THAT CAPACITY. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          YEAH, I, I MENTIONED IT TO DIRECTOR DINGLER EARLIER. 
          UM, WE'RE GIVING HER A LITTLE TIME TO SETTLE IN. 
          UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT, UM, STEPHANIE HAS JOINED THE TEAM AND, AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SET UP A MEETING WITH HER. 
          MY QUESTION WAS, CAN Y'ALL JUST REMIND US WHO'S ON THAT GROUP? THE STRATEGIC PLAN WORKING GROUP? MM-HMM . 
          FOUR OF Y'ALL AND NIELSEN, FIVE OF Y'ALL. 
          AND, UM, COMMISSIONER . 
          OKAY. 
          AND SOME VOLUNTEERS AND, AND SEVERAL CITIZENS COOL. 
          ARE ON IT. 
          ANY, YES. 
          ES IT'S A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FROM THE, YOU SAID THE STATE HAD MONEY FOR SPAY NEUTER FOR THIS $13.5 MILLION. 
          DO THEY DO THAT EVERY YEAR OR NO? UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WITH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS THINGS. 
          IT WAS KIND OF A SPECIAL THING, BUDGET SHIFT THAT THE STATE UNEXPECTEDLY DID AND THEN ANNOUNCED IT. 
          SO WE AS A COMMISSION ASKED THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS TEAM TO, UM, DO WHAT THEY CAN TO HAVE IT, UM, ALLOCATED EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, BUT IT WAS NOT LEGISLATION, IT WAS JUST A BUDGET SHIFT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO TO FOLLOW UP WITH SPAY NEUTER, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR LIKE GREATER GOOD, GOOD FIX FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR OTHER SPAY NEUTER OPPORTUNITIES, CONTRACTORS? YEAH, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, LOOKING AT THAT, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH, UH, GOOD FIX HAS BEEN FINDING A LOCATION THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH AND THAT FULFILLS ALL THE NEEDS, UM, FOR US TO DO SPAY NEUTER THERE. 
          UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES ON HOW WE CAN SPEND THAT SAME MONEY, UM, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH GOOD FIX OR THROUGH EMANCIPET OR OTHER VENDORS. 
          UM, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE OFFERING THOSE, UM, SERVICES AND SPAYING AND NEUTERING AS MANY ANIMALS AS WE CAN. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THE NEXT CLINIC? WE DO NOT. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS, UM, FINDING ONE FOR THE NEXT CLINIC IN JULY. 
          UM, AND WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND ONE IN JULY. 
          UH, AND WE ARE NOT, UH, GOOD FIX DID NOT HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO ONE AFTER JULY. 
          UM, SO WE'RE IN, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH VENDORS TO, UM, HAVE, HAVE SPAY NEUTER EVENTS AVAILABLE FOR THAT, FOR THOSE MISSING DATES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, THANK YOU MELISSA. 
          IT WAS NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON 
          [4. Update from Pet Friendly Housing Working Group regarding future recommendations.  ]
TO ITEM FOUR. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE, UH, SPEAKER, PAT  OR HI, UM, THIS IS PAT RES AND I'M GONNA PASS ON THIS ITEM. 
          SO, UM, MR. HOLT, I THINK THIS IS MINE AND THIS IS EITHER GONNA DISAPPOINT Y'ALL OR EXCITE Y'ALL. 
          UM, I DON'T 
          [01:25:01]
HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS. 
          THIS IS ON HERE PER, UM, THIS ONE. 
          DR. 
          WHAT YOU GOT THIS SPONSORSHIP? NOT TECHNICALLY. 
          WE GOT THAT. 
          THIS IS ABOUT, YOU HAVE YOUR MICROPHONE IN. 
          SORRY. 
          I DO, WHAT BAYO IS SAYING IS ABOUT A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM ON HERE. 
          SO WE WILL COVER THAT. 
          AND NO, THIS IS JUST A REQUEST FOR UPDATE ON FUTURE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP THE WORKING GROUP GOING. 
          SO, UM, THE UPDATE IS THERE WILL BE FUTURE RECOMMENDATIONS, PERIOD, , ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM IS, UM, APPROVE 
          [5. Approve the election of Chair.  ]
THE ELECTION OF A CHAIR. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE NEED A CHAIR, UH, A CHAIR, A VICE CHAIR, AND A PARLIAMENTARIAN. 
          WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE POSITIONS. 
          UH, SO, UM, WE'LL TAKE, UH, MOTIONS FOR OUR CHAIR. 
          UM, I WILL MOTION AGAIN TO, UM, UH, NOMINATE, UH, I'M SORRY, TO ME NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR POSITION. 
          UM, I NOMINATE, UM, DR. 
          PAIGE NISSEN, AND SHE HAS, UM, AGREED TO, UH, ACCEPT THE CHAIR POSITION BOTH IN THE MEETING LAST WEEK AND IN OUR AGENDA MEETING. 
          UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND ON, UH, HER NOMINATION? DO WE NEED, WE NEED A SECOND, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          MR. COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. 
          HEARING NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, UM, LET'S VOTE TO, UM, ACCEPT DR. 
          APPOINT DR. 
          PAIGE NIELSEN AS CHAIR OF THE AUSTIN ANNUAL ANNUAL ADVISORY COMMISSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE, UM, OKAY, SO WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, AND COMMISSIONER HUDDLESON. 
          SO WE HAVE SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE NEED SE WE NEED SEVEN. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM IN ORDER TO DO IT. 
          WE HAVE 13 MEMBERS. 
          WE HAVE 12 MEMBERS NOW WITH ONE OPENING. 
          UM, SO, UH, I GUESS WE WILL HAVE TO YES. 
          CAN WE SEE WHO'S AGAINST? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE, UH, THE VOTE WHO IS, UH, AGAINST DR. NIELSEN AS CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONE, UH, COMMISSIONER EMER STERNED. 
          IS EVERYONE ELSE ABSTAINING OR RECUSING OR, UH, ABSTAINED? I'M ON THE SHEET AS ABSTAINED. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN THIS WILL CONTINUE AND BE PUT ON THE, UH, AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE NEXT 
          [6. Approve the creation of a working group regarding policies related to off-leash dogs and the  addition of members.]
ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE CREATION OF A WORKING GROUP REGARDING POLICIES RELATED TO OFF-LEASH DOGS IN THE ADDITION OF MEMBERS. 
          UM, THIS IS MY ITEM. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S PROBABLY ME. 
          IT'S FINE IF IT'S ONLY ME, I COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE A, AT LEAST IF I HAVE A GROUP, I CAN MAKE UPDATES TO YOU. 
          UM, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. 
          I WAS CHAIR OF THE PREVIOUS OFF LEASH DOG WORKING GROUP. 
          UM, IT RAN TWO YEARS AND IN AN UNUSUAL SETUP, UM, IT ALSO INCLUDED MEMBERS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. 
          UM, WE, THE COMMISSION APPROVED THAT. 
          SO, UH, PART AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, UH, EMPLOYEES WORKED ON IT. 
          UM, WE HAD CITIZENS ON IT. 
          WE DID A SUMMARY IN 2022, WHICH YOU COULD SEE, OR I'M HAPPY TO SEND IT TO YOU IF YOU WANNA SEE IT. 
          AND PAR ALSO USED THE SAME SUMMARY FOR THEIR MEETING. 
          UM, AND I THINK AT THE TIME WE DID A GOOD JOB IN IDENTIFYING THINGS. 
          WE DID TWO, UM, GREAT VIDEOS. 
          UM, I, UM, LAST I LOOKED, THEY'RE STILL ON THE PARD WEBSITE. 
          UM, THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, REMOVED, I BELIEVE FROM THE A ES WEBSITE. 
          WE WON AN AWARD FOR ONE OF THEM. 
          UM, GOT TO GO TO ATLANTA AND GET THE AWARD FOR THE ONE WITH THE SHINY RIBS PERSON. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CITIZEN CONFUSION. 
          AND I THINK MAYBE WHAT WE DIDN'T DO IS COME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR LASTING PROGRAMS OF ADVISING CITIZENS ABOUT OFF LEASH DOG LAWS AND WHAT THEY CAN DO IF THEY SEE AN AWFUL LEASH DOG AND WHAT TO EXPECT. 
          AND, UM, I ALSO THINK THERE'S SOME UPDATES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE STATE. 
          UM, I'VE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF, UM, THE TEXAS HUMANE LEGISLATION NETWORK AND WE'RE STAYING IN CONTACT AND, UM, THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR AGENDA TOGETHER. 
          AND I'D KIND OF LIKE TO TALK TO HER ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT, UM, WE KIND OF MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, I MENTIONED THERE WAS A CITIZEN ATTACK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, THE, UH, UH, VICTIM IS HAVING, UH, PLASTIC SURGERY. 
          UM, THE OWNER OF THE DOG IS IN JAIL. 
          [01:30:01]
UM, SHE WAS CHARGED WITH FELONIES, WAS REALLY STUNNED BOND, AND THEN THREATENED TO SHOOT UP THE ANIMAL CENTER. 
          UM, SO SHE IS IN JAIL PENDING THAT. 
          AND, UM, SO, UH, BUT PART OF THE REASON I THOUGHT OF THAT IS THOSE DOGS GOT OUT ALL THE TIME, . 
          AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE HANDLING THE, UM, AND RECOMMENDING FENCING. 
          UM, I PULLED THE A PO REPORTS, UM, REGARDING THAT SITUATION. 
          AND I KNOW ONE IS MISSING BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE THERE THAT DAY. 
          AND I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE TRUCK. 
          UM, SO I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED. 
          UM, SO I LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO TRY TO REALLY HELP PEOPLE KEEP THEIR DOGS  IN THEIR HOUSE. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT DO THEY NEED SERVICES AND HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO, UH, LET CITIZENS KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEIR NEXT DOOR POSTS, KIND OF MAYBE A SOCIAL KIND OF THING WHERE YOU COULD SEND STUFF OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA HERE AND THERE. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'D KIND OF LIKE TO LOOK AT AGAIN. 
          UM, AGAIN, I THINK IT AFFECTS INTAKE BECAUSE A LOT OF INTAKE COMES FROM PEOPLE SEEING ROAMING DOGS AND BRINGING 'EM HOME. 
          AND IF WE CAN GET THEM IN THEIR HOUSE CONTAINED, THAT WOULD JUST BE ALL THE BETTER. 
          UH, SO, UM, ANYWAY, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN OFF-LEASH DOG WORKING GROUP WITH ME AS A MEMBER. 
          AND IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO BE A MEMBER, YOU'RE WELCOME TO BE A MEMBER. 
          I HAVE A WEIRD REQUEST. 
          WAIT, I HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND BEFORE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          I'LL BE A SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN I HAVE MY WEIRD ROOM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NOW WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WEAR TWO HATS, UHHUH . 
          I MANAGE THE INTERLOCAL WITH TRAVIS COUNTY OF ANIMAL SERVICES, AND I SIT ON THE COMMISSION AND I TRY TO KEEP THOSE HATS SEPARATE, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE ADDING MEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN, BUT NOT IN MY COMMISSION HAT, BUT IN MY JOB. 
          COMMUNITY MEMBER HAT , IF THAT IS POSSIBLE. 
          YEAH, NO, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I'LL TRY. 
          I WILL, I TRY TO FIND A HAT. 
          SO WE'LL AMEND THE MOTION TO ADD MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER HOLT. 
          WE WOULD JUST CALL ME WHITNEY HOLT. 
          WHITNEY HOLT WHITNEY AND WHITNEY THE CITIZEN. 
          BIG HANNAH MONTANA FACTS. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT. 
          I THINK YOU HAVE TO. 
          I'M FINE WITH DOING THAT. 
          I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, LIKE WHAT MY INTENTION. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE ON A DESK. 
          I'M COMING IN A, IN A VERY DIFFERENT SPACE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, YEAH. 
          I MEAN YOU COULD, YEAH, YOU CAN SHARE THOSE EXPERIENCES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS ANY COMMENT OR WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE GROUP THAT WE CAN AMEND? OKAY, SO HEARING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, UM, ALL AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER AHMED, WE CAN'T SEE YOU IF YOU WANNA VOTE. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF CREATING THIS WORKING GROUP, UH, SAY AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL SEE WHAT WE COULD DO THIS TIME AND I WILL UPDATE THE WILDLIFE BROCHURE AND ADD TO ADD THE SQUIRRELS THAT I FORGOT THE LAST TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          THE ITEM SEVEN, 
          [7. Approve the creation of a Working group that creates incentives for city and county  employees who foster an animal for Ausin Animal Shelter and the addition of members. ]
UM, APPROVE THE CREATION OF A WORKING GROUP THAT CREATES INCENTIVES FOR CITY AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES WHO FOSTER AN ANIMAL FOR AN AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES AND THE ADDITION OF MEMBERS. 
          THIS IS ME. 
          SORRY Y'ALL. 
          I'M ALL OVER THIS AGENDA AND IT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA GO LATE TONIGHT. 
          UM, I, IT, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHAT THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS. 
          I DON'T NEED TO READ TO Y'ALL, BUT, UM, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME IN WRITING THIS RECOMMENDATION, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU. 
          I'LL JOIN YOU. 
          AWESOME. 
          WILL YOU FIRST SECOND? ME SECOND. 
          THANK YOU . 
          UM, ANY DISCUSSION, DAVID? OH WAIT, I MESSED UP. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IT DID I DO IT WRONG BY? NO, IT'S MY FAULT. 
          UM, PAT TRES, I FORGOT SHE SIGNED UP FOR LIKE EVERY ITEM AND I FORGOT THAT SHE HAD ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE HER, LET ME THINK ABOUT IT. 
          UM, HOW SHOULD WE DO THAT? SHOULD WE HAVE HER TALK BEFORE WE VOTE OR SHOULD WE VOTE? PARDON ME? JUST GO WITH THE VOTE. 
          WE'LL GO WITH THE VOTE AND NEVER TALK. 
          YES, I'LL JOIN YOUR, OKAY. 
          SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE WORKING GROUP. 
          ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. 
          SO PAT, I APOLOGIZE I'M NOT USED TO DOING THIS, SO IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ON SIX TO SEVEN AND THE UPCOMING EIGHT . 
          OH, YOU'RE HERE, . 
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YES. 
          UM, THANK YOU VICE CHAIR. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN. 
          I WILL BE BRIEF ON BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I AM GLAD THAT THE OFF-LEASH WORKING GROUP HAS BEEN REVIVED. 
          UM, THANK YOU VICE CHAIR AND UM, I'D LIKE TO BE ON IT. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO, UH, VOLUNTEER TO BE ON THE, UM, WORKING GROUP THAT HAS TO DO WITH INCENTIVES. 
          AND MY REASON FOR WANTING, MY REASONS FOR WANTING TO BE ON EACH OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT. 
          I DO CARE A LOT ABOUT OFF LEACH DOGS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST DATA FROM THE DATABASE TO LEARN ABOUT, UM, OFF LEASH DOGS BY DISTRICT. 
          AND, UM, I REQUESTED THAT DATE A LONG TIME AGO. 
          AND DISTRICT DISTRICTS 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REPRESENT THOSE DISTRICTS, HAD NO ACTUALLY ONE, TWO, AND THREE HAD VERY HIGH NUMBERS OF OFF-LEASH DOGS AND CALLS TO 3 1 1 DISTRICTS. 
          10 AND SIX HAD THE FEWEST NUMBERS. 
          AND SOME OF US THINK THAT 10 WAS BECAUSE, UM, IT'S, IT'S AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CALL RIGHT AWAY AND GET DOGS PICKED UP. 
          BUT SOME PEOPLE IN SIX SAID THEY'D CALL AND THEY NEVER GET ANYBODY TO COME OUT THERE. 
          UM, THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL TRUE. 
          SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO BE ON THAT ONE. 
          ON THE ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH INCENTIVES. 
          IT'S BECAUSE OF MY INTEREST IN THE WORKING GROUP. 
          UM, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, IT'S BECAUSE OF MY INTEREST IN THE DONATIONS FUND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THAT WORKING GROUP. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO GET SOME MONEY FROM THE DONATIONS FUND TO PROVIDE THAT. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN START TO GENERATE MORE MONEY FOR THE, FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN THE DONATIONS FUND IF WE SHOW THAT THE WAY THE MONEY IS BEING USED IS, IS HELPING AND IS A GOOD PILOT FOR POSSIBLE INCLUSION LATER ON IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE REGULAR BUDGET. 
          SO THAT'S MY INTEREST IN, IN BEING IN, IN THOSE TWO, UH, WORKING GROUPS. 
          AND IS THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANNA SAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ON EIGHT? NO. 
          UM, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY REAL QUICKLY IS THAT THAT'S IT, THAT I WON'T BE SPEAKING ANYMORE. 
          SO THAT OKAY. 
          YOU COULD TAKE ME OFF THE REST OF THE ITEMS. OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, AND UM, MS. WATSON, I BELIEVE SINCE WE'VE ALREADY MOTION AND VOTED THAT NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE A MEETING, WE'LL HAVE A, WE'LL NEED AN ITEM TO ADD MEMBERS TO THE WORKING GROUP AND THEN ADD PAT ONTO BOTH OF THE TWO THAT SHE MENTIONED. 
          YES. 
          BUT SHE CAN WORK WITH, YEAH, I MEAN SHE CAN WORK WITH US ANYWAY, SO, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          CROSSING YOU OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 
          [8. Approve a Recommendation to Council regarding breed labeling policies in shelters.  ]
EIGHT. 
          UM, APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL REGARDING BREED LABELING POLICIES IN SHELTERS. 
          COMMISSIONER HOLTE, OR IS THAT, I THINK WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? NO, THAT WAS JUST, THAT WAS PAT WAS THE ONLY ONE. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          KATE MCCARDLE. 
          YEAH, SORRY KATE. 
          I'M NOT USED TO DOING THIS. 
           , WELCOME. 
          DISAGREE. 
          OKAY, ALL THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS KATE MCCARDLE. 
          I LIVE IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE. 
          I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS WORKING GROUP THAT PUT TOGETHER THIS RECOMMENDATION FOR A A S TO ADOPT THE PRACTICE OF USING MIXED BREED FOR MOST DOGS AT THE SHELTER. 
          AND I WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS RESOLUTION. 
          I ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO ADOPT IT AND I FURTHER ENCOURAGE A A S LEADERSHIP TO ADOPT THIS RECOMMENDED POLICY. 
          SO TONIGHT I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE PEER REVIEWED ACADEMIC RESEARCH THAT SUPPORTS OUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          THE CITATIONS FOR ALL OF THE STUDIES I'LL MENTION CAN BE FOUND AT THE END OF THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. 
          AND I'VE ALSO SHARED WITH THE COMMISSION A THREE PAGE REVIEW OF THE RESEARCH THAT GOES INTO MORE DETAIL THAN I HAVE TIME FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          I ALSO HAVE A FEW PAPER, UM, PRINTED COPIES OF THAT DOCUMENT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE ONE. 
          SO THIS RESOLUTION OR THIS RECOMMENDATION DIDN'T COME OUT OF NOWHERE. 
          IT'S THOROUGHLY GROUNDED IN FOUR AREAS OF PEER REVIEWED RESEARCH. 
          THE FIRST STUDY INCLUDES SOME PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD DNA ANALYSIS OF ALMOST A THOUSAND DOGS AT TWO DIFFERENT SHELTERS IN THE SOUTHWEST. 
          TURNED OUT THAT ONLY 5% OF THOSE DOGS WERE COMPOSED OF A SINGLE BREED, AND ONLY 1.3% OF THOSE DOGS WERE COMPOSED OF EXACTLY TWO BREEDS, MEANING THAT ALMOST 94% OF THE DOGS IN THIS STUDY WERE COMPOSED OF THREE OR MORE BREEDS. 
          AND MOST OF THOSE DOGS DIDN'T HAVE ANY SINGLE BREED MAKING UP OVER 50% OF THEIR DNA HERITAGE. 
          SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE PREDOMINANTLY ONE TYPE OF DOG WITH OTHER THINGS MIXED IN. 
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UM, SO WE ALREADY HAVE MOTIVATION TO CONSIDER THE VAST MAJORITY OF DOGS AT SHELTERS IS A MIXED BREED. 
          THE NEXT MAJOR AREA OF RESEARCH IS ON USING VISUAL ASSESSMENT TO IDENTIFY A DOG'S BREED, ESPECIALLY AT SHELTERS. 
          SEVERAL STUDIES HAVE FOUND THAT ANIMAL WELFARE PROFESSIONALS, INCLUDING VETERINARIANS AND SHELTER STAFF, OFTEN CANNOT CORRECTLY IDENTIFY A DOG'S BREED BY VISUAL ASSESSMENT. 
          PERHAPS THIS IS BECAUSE THE PHYSICAL FEATURES WE OFTEN ASSOCIATE WITH SPECIFIC BREEDS, THINGS LIKE EAR AND HEAD SHAPE AND SIZE ARE CONTROLLED BY LESS THAN 1% OF A DOG'S 20,000 GENES. 
          AND GIVEN THAT MOST DOGS AT THE SHELTER ARE MADE UP OF SEVERAL BREEDS, IT'S NOT AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS SAYING, THIS DOG HAS A BLOCKY HEAD LIKE A PITY. 
          THEREFORE, HE MUST BE MOSTLY PITY. 
          THE GENETICS JUST DON'T WORK LIKE THAT. 
          AND AS A RESULT, FOUR DIFFERENT STUDIES HAVE FOUND THAT SHELTER STAFF AND VETERINARIANS, VISUAL ASSESSMENTS OF SHELTER DOGS BREEDS ARE VERY OFTEN INACCURATE. 
          SO WE KNOW MOST DOGS AT SHELTERS ARE MIXED BREED AND IT'S HARD TO CORRECTLY ASSIGN BREED BASED ON VISUAL ASSIGNMENT OR ASSESSMENT. 
          A FEW STUDIES HAVE LOOKED AT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SHELTERS EITHER DON'T PROVIDE ANY BREED LABELS FOR THEIR ADOPTABLE DOGS, OR THEY LIST THEM AS MIXED BREED. 
          THESE STUDIES FOUND THAT THESE PRACTICES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER ADOPTION RATES, LOWER RETURN RATES, AND SHORTER LENGTHS OF STAY BENEFITS WERE SEEN FOR ALL TYPES OF DOGS, BUT PITIES DID BENEFIT THE MOST. 
          AND LASTLY, LEST ANYONE THINK THAT PROVIDING A BREED LABEL THAT'S LIKELY INCORRECT FOR A DOG THAT'S LIKELY MIXED BREED MAY STILL HELP SHED SOME LIGHT ON A DOG'S EXPECTED BEHAVIOR IN A HOME. 
          BIG SURPRISE. 
          RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT THIS IS UNLIKELY TO BE THE CASE TOO. 
          WHILE WE CAN TALK ABOUT EXPECTED BEHAVIOR OF PURE BRED DOGS IN THE AGGREGATE, THINGS LIKE GERMAN SHEPHERDS ARE OFTEN VERY SMART. 
          RESEARCH SHOWS US THAT WE CANNOT MAKE THE SAME STATEMENTS FOR INDIVIDUAL DOGS. 
          WE CANNOT SAY THIS IS A GERMAN SHEPHERD, THEREFORE HE'S SMART BEHAVIOR VARIATION WITHIN A GIVEN BREED OF DOG HAS BEEN FOUND TO BE AS HIGH OR EVEN HIGHER THAN BEHAVIOR VARIATION ACROSS BREEDS OF DOGS. 
          SO IN LIGHT OF ALL THIS RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE LAST FEW DECADES, THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS FOR SHELTERS TO CONSIDER SERIOUSLY CONSIDER DROPPING BREED LABELS OR USING THE TERM MIXED BREED. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I ENCOURAGE THIS COMMISSION TO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BACK TO MATT. 
          AWESOME. 
          UM, SO SOME OF YOU MAYBE HAVE ALREADY PUT TOGETHER WHY THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR THE PET FRIENDLY HOUSING WORKING GROUP TO HAVE FOCUSED ON THIS, BUT FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS THE DOTS CONNECTED FOR THEM, WHEN WE'RE LABELING DOGS AS CERTAIN BREEDS, PARTICULARLY PIT BULL TYPE DOGS, MOST, I'M NOT GONNA SAY MOST, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF INSURANCE PROVIDERS THAT PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR HOMEOWNERS, BUT EVEN MORE SO FOR RENTERS IN THE AREA, WILL NOT ALLOW DOGS OF CERTAIN BREEDS AND CERTAIN LABELS. 
          SO IF WE'RE LABELING A DOG AS A PIT PIT BULL OR PIT BULL TYPE DOG, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE AND WE'RE JUST GOING OFF OF SKINNY WAIST, THICK HEAD, UM, WE'RE, WE ARE BASICALLY LOOKING AT THAT DOG AND SAYING, YOU'RE STUCK HERE FOREVER NOW. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT MAKES IT HARDER TO GET THEM INTO HOMES. 
          AND SO BY MOVING AWAY FROM THE, AS KATE DEMONSTRATED INACCURATE LABELING OF THESE DOGS, WE ARE ACTUALLY GIVING SOME OF THE DOGS WHO HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN HARDER TO PLACE A BETTER CHANCE OF BEING ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE SHELTER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT THEN GOING TO SOMEONE WHO AS AN ADOPTER HAS TO GO TO THEIR LANDLORD AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA GET THIS NEW DOG. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY SHUT DOWN BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF, UM, ONLY FOR THE, THE LABEL THAT HAS BEEN IN INACCURATELY ASSIGNED. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          I'VE DONE THIS 10 TIMES AND I CAN NEVER REMEMBER WHAT I NEED TO DO . 
          SO I GUESS YOU COULD MAKE A, MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT AND THEN DISCUSS. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, I AM, I HAVE MY, I AM ALSO GOING TO BE MY FIRST DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL 'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE FEEDBACK FROM MONICA ON TWO OF THE, UM, BE IT FURTHER RESULTS, BUT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION. 
          I'LL SECOND IF THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO MONICA SPECIFICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A COPY IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          UM, WE TRIED TO DO LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWED SOME LIKE, WIGGLE ROOM FOR Y'ALL, BUT THE SECOND AND THIRD BE IT RESOLVED, UM, ARE SPECIFIC TO SOFTWARE WRITEUPS THAT'S HAPPENING WITH DOGS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM. 
          SO WE DID LIKE A, A VIBE OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHILE NOT TRYING TO LIKE BOX YOU IN IF THESE THINGS ARE NOT ACTUALLY POSSIBLE. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT EITHER OF THOSE AND IMMEDIATELY SEE A TWEAK OR SUGGESTION THAT WOULD PUT MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT Y'ALL WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO, UM, I I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THOSE EDITS NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THE SOFTWARE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          CHAMELEON, I KNOW THAT WE HAD TO PICK A SINGLE BREED MM-HMM . 
          WE COULD PUT MIXED AS THE SECOND BREED, BUT WE ALWAYS HAD TO PICK THE PRIMARY BREED. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT SHELTER BUDDY, SO I'D NEED TO LOOK AND SEE IF, UM, 
          [01:45:01]
A BREED IS REQUIRED. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, TO BE PICKED. 
          I JUST SPOKE WITH, UM, MISTY VALENTI AT WILLIAMSON COUNTY MM-HMM . 
          UM, TO SEE WHAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PAPER MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND SHE'S LIKE, YEP. 
          WE DON'T PUT IT ON ANYTHING. 
          EVEN THE RABIES MM-HMM . 
          UM, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE, UM, ANY TYPE OF BREED MENTIONED ON THE ADD APE PROFILE. 
          UM, OR THE KENNEL CARD THAT'S CREATED BY ADD APE INITIAL KENNEL CARDS THAT COME OUT FROM INITIAL INTAKE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I BELIEVE MIGHT HAVE BREED ON IT. 
          OKAY. 
          POTENTIALLY OUT OF SHELTER BUDDY, BUT THROUGH ADD APE IT DOESN'T. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THAT FURTHER TO SEE IF, UM, SHELTER BUDDY ALLOWS THAT. 
          UM, OR IF WE WOULD NEED TO PUT GERMAN SHEPHERD MIXED BREED. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, I, UM, I KNOW THAT WORKING WITH SHELTER BUDDY IS LIKE TRYING TO STEER THE TITANIC. 
          UM, AND I AM CURIOUS, 'CAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL HAD TO HAVE HARDER CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IN THE PAST. 
          DO YOU THINK THAT, UM, DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR POTENTIALLY ADVOCATING FOR THEM TO, TO MAKE A TWEAK EVEN IF IT WAS JUST FOR, FOR US OR HOWEVER THEY DO THEIR SOFTWARE IN GENERAL? BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE, UM, RETURN ON INVESTMENT EFFECTIVELY WE SEE ON POLICIES LIKE THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE ADVOCACY QUESTION. 
          MARK . 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I'M NOT SURE HOW WILLING, UM, THEY'D BE TO WORK WITH US. 
          AS, YOU KNOW, SHELTER BUDDY IS A AUSTRALIAN BASED COMPANY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO SOMETIMES THAT, I COULD IMAGINE THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME, UM, RESTRICTIONS, UM, IN AUSTRALIA THAT WOULD MAKE THEM SAY, NOPE, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE BREED. 
          BUT IT MIGHT BE AS EASY AS JUST NOT PUTTING THE BREED IN AND SELECTING MIXED INSTEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          UM, INTERESTING. 
          OKAY. 
          COOL. 
          AND THEN FOR THE OTHER TWO, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVES, UM, WE TRIED TO HEDGE WITH LIKE WHEN APPROPRIATE, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE Y'ALL EMPHASIZE INSTEAD. 
          BUT AGAIN, LIKE NOT NOT BEING IN SHELTER BUDDY, THANK GOD. 
          UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE EXACTLY. 
          SO, SO ARE THESE LIKE REALISTIC, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US TO, UM, I WOULD THINK SO. 
          I WOULD JUST, AGAIN, I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT SHELTER BUDDY TO SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY, UM, ACTUAL LIMITATION. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          MR. L, JUST AS WE WORK TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THIS. 
          JUST FYI, APES DOES HAVE A SPECIFIC BREED LISTED WHEN YOU LOOK UP A DOG. 
          OH, ON THE ONLINE PROFILE? YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT A DOG. 
          I KNOW RIGHT NOW IT WAS LISTED ON CERTAIN, OH, I IT'S NOT ON THE KENNEL CARD, SO I GUESS MAYBE I ASSUMED INCORRECTLY. 
          I'M FIGURING OUT LIKE YOU ARE TOO, SO I'M NOT TRYING TO GOTCHA YOU. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO, AS WE FIGURE OUT, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. 
          I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE FORWARD, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. 
          I KNOW RIGHT THERE, THERE'S THE ARGUMENT THAT UM, RIGHT, IF SOMEBODY'S LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC BREED OF DOG OR SIZE OF DOG THAT IT'S HELPFUL, BUT MM-HMM . 
          I LOVE GERMAN SHEPHERDS I THAT I WANNA BE ABLE TO SEARCH FOR GERMAN SHEPHERDS AND IF I CAN'T SEE THAT, UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MISTY JUST BEFORE, UM, EARLIER TODAY AND SAID, HAVE YOU SEEN ANY IMPACT? AND RIGHT. 
          WE KNOW THAT WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE AT A 98% LIVE RELEASE RATE MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY'RE GETTING THE ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTER. 
          UM, SO THAT GAVE ME CONFIDENCE, UM, KNOWING THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT. 
          COOL. 
          THAT, UM, WE, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK FOR US. 
          AWESOME. 
          UM, AND AS A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY, INCLUDING ME, WE DO NOT HAVE TO LAND THE PLANE TONIGHT, BUT I DO WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATION, WHATEVER WE PUT FORWARD, WAS VIABLE. 
          UM, SO KNOWING THAT IF ANYBODY HAS, ESPECIALLY ON THAT SECOND AND THIRD, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED LANGUAGE THAT THEY THINK WOULD, UM, ALLOW US TO BE ACCOMMODATING AROUND THIS ALL FOR IT. 
          OTHERWISE, THAT IS THE END OF ME TALKING THIS MUCH. 
           JUST, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. 
          UM, WELL, THAT WAS LOT. 
          UM, , SO ON, ON THE HOUSING ASPECT OF THIS MM-HMM . 
          SO SOMEBODY GOES AND THEY GET AN MIXED BREED DOG MM-HMM . 
          IT LOOKS A LOT LIKE A PIT BULL MM-HMM . 
          UM, IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THEN, BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY CALLED A MIXED BREED, THEN IS THAT LANDLORD ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? LIKE, DOES THAT TRULY STOP THE LANDLORD FROM NOT HAVING THAT PERSON BRING THE DOG IN? SO, UM, I WILL SPEAK FROM MY EXPERIENCE AS A RENTER, MOST OF THE TIME THEY NEVER LOOK AT YOUR DOG AND NEVER NOTICE. 
          AND AS LONG AS THEY NEVER CAUSE PROBLEMS, THEY DON'T CARE. 
          AND IF YOU'RE RENTING FROM LIKE A BOUTIQUE COMPLEX OR FROM LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER WHO'S RENTING SOMETHING IN THE BACK, THEY CAN MAKE WHATEVER DECISION THEY WANT WHENEVER THEY WANT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PAPERWORK WORKS AS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I THINK THAT WHAT THIS DOES DOES NOT OFFER A 
          [01:50:01]
COMPLETE 100% SOLUTION, BUT WE AT LEAST STOP LIKE MAKING IT HARDER ON OURSELVES THAN IT HAS TO BE . 
          UM, SO IT IT'S REMOVING ONE BARRIER. 
          IT IS NOT A SILVER BULLET. 
          GOTCHA. 
          GOTCHA. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, DOES MONICA SUPPORT THIS STRONGLY OR THE GETTING RID OF THE BREED? UM, LIKE I SAID, WILLIAMSON COUNTY DOES IT AND THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY ISSUES WITH IT MM-HMM . 
          SO I I'M GOOD WITH THAT. 
          SO I'VE KIND OF EITHER WAY. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I'VE SEEN IT WORK BOTH WAYS WHERE SOMETIMES LANDLORDS JUST SAY NO PIT BULLS BECAUSE THEIR INSURANCE POLICY SAYS THAT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT A PIT BULL LOOKS LIKE. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WHAT A GREAT DOG THIS IS. 
          WHAT IS IT A CATTLE DOG? YOU'RE LIKE, YES, IT IS . 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UM, UH, AND AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT, I, I KNOW THERE'S TIMES WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, I'VE GOT, AND I'VE DONE THIS, I'VE SAID, I'VE GOT A MIXED BREED DOG. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, IF IT'S A PIT BULL OR IT COULD BE YOU, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT DOG. 
          SO IT JUST REALLY DEPENDS ON THE LANDLORD, UM, AND WHERE YOU'RE AT AND THE INSURANCE CARRIERS AS WELL. 
          SO, MR. LOGAN, JUST ONE OTHER THING. 
          HAVING SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH, UM, PEOPLE FOSTERING AND ADOPTING DOGS AFTER THE FACT, FROM BEHAVIORAL STANDPOINT, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES, UM, THE ONLY THING THE LANDLORD WILL ASK FOR IS THE PAPERWORK THAT YOU GOT FROM THE SHELTER OF THE DOG. 
          AND IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS WHAT BREWING IS, IT'S LISTED AS. 
          SO I I'M NOT, AGAIN, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A CLEAR ALL FOR EVERYTHING, BUT IT MAY HELP IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          SO I HAVE A COUPLE, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THIS AND I MOSTLY LIKE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT I'VE WORKED AT AASS AS A GREETER A LOT AND I DO, UM, AND HAVE FOSTERED A LOT AND, AND I WORKED WITH ADD PETS A LOT, . 
          UM, AND SO, UM, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY DATA WE COULD PULL, WHEN PEOPLE GO TO THE SHELTER SITE, DO THEY PICK DOG IN A BREED OR MOSTLY JUST DOG? I MEAN, ARE THEY USING THOSE TOOLS? I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING CAN COME UP FROM THAT. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE THIS WEEKEND, I HAVE, UM, SOMEONE WHO'S A, A GOOD ADOPTER WHO SPECIFICALLY WANTS A HUSKY MM-HMM . 
          AND SO I WENT INTO BREED DOG AND ALL THAT CAME UP IN BREEDS WERE CAT THINGS, LIKE DOMESTIC SHORT HAIR. 
          SO IT DIDN'T WORK. 
          SO I WROTE TO THE FOSTER TEAM AND I SAID, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A LEGIT PERSON. 
          DO YOU, UM, UH, CAN YOU HELP ME IDENTIFY SOME HUSKIES THAT I CAN GIVE THEM? AND IT, IT TOOK A WHILE. 
          SO I WENT PAGE BY PAGE FOR 30 PAGES MM-HMM . 
          LOOKING AT THESE DOGS MM-HMM . 
          AND, UM, I DID THROW OUT A COUPLE OTHER ONES MM-HMM . 
          UM, TO HER. 
          UM, BUT, UM, IN ANOLE THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE PERFECT. 
          BUT, UM, I DID FIND THE HUSKIES WERE PROPERLY, YOU KNOW, LISTED. 
          UM, CURIOUSLY THEN THE FOSTER TEAM CAME BACK, UM, THEY SENT ME A LIST AND PROBABLY HALF THE LIST DID NOT APPEAR IN APES. 
          AND THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S HAPPENED FOR YEARS WITH THE WAY THE FOSTERS ARE MOVED, SOMETHING ISN'T DONE AND THEY DON'T APPEAR. 
          SO HERE ARE ALL THESE HUSKIES THAT I COULD NOT FIND. 
          SO I REPORTED THAT THEY WERE FIXED THE NEXT DAY. 
          AND SHE'S, I THINK, INTERESTED IN ONE OF THEM. 
          BUT I DO THINK ALSO AS A GREETER, PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY, I WANT A LAB. 
          I GREW UP WITH A LAB, I WANT A LAB. 
          AND AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES IS JUST SO OVERWHELMING. 
          AND SO I WOULD WRITE DOWN THE, YOU KNOW, PLACES WITH THE LAB. 
          SO DO WE THINK THAT, AND I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY HALF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME IN. 
          SO DO WE JUST SAY THIS GREETER? JUST SAY, YEP. 
          GO LOOK AROUND. 
          SO, UM, OR, OR IF THERE IS A SUBCATEGORY. 
          YEAH, NO, YOU, YOU'RE ECHOING A CONCERN THAT I HAD WHEN WE KIND OF LANDED ON THIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE ULTIMATELY WENT WITH THE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED BEING LET'S DEFAULT TO MIXED BREED. 
          UM, BUT THE OTHER VARIATION OF THIS THAT WE LOOKED AT AS SOMEONE WHO ALSO HAS SPECIFIC BREEDS THAT I LIKE, WANNA SHOW UP AND, YOU KNOW, SHOW ME THE, I DON'T KNOW, NOT HUSKIES FOR SURE, BUT , LIKE THE BIG OLD BLOCKY ROTTWEILERS OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, I LIKE 'EM STUPID, BUT I, WE DON'T HAVE DATA ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          THE OTHER ITERATION OF THIS THAT WE TOSSED OUT WAS TO, UM, DEFAULT, WHAT WAS THE EXACT WORDING OF IT THAT WE USED? IT WAS, UM, TO KEEP IN MIND THE INACCURATE AND BIASED LABELING OF DOGS AS PITBULL TYPE DOGS. 
          DESPITE WHEN TESTING 
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IS DONE, MOST OF THOSE DOGS ARE ACTUALLY NOT PREDOMINANTLY PITBULL TYPE DOGS. 
          AND THAT WAS VERY IN THE WEEDS, BUT LIKE, KIND OF GETS TO THE, THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET AT HERE. 
          UM, AND WE, SO YES, YOUR, YOUR CONCERN IS HEARD AND I THINK IT'S REALISTIC. 
          I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE HERE IS WHAT WE ARE NOT SAYING IS IF SOMEBODY WALKS IN AND SAYS, I WANT A HUSKY THAT WE PRETEND THAT WE CAN'T SEE BREED , UM, BUT THAT WE JUST ARE NOT CREATING PAPERWORK THAT THEN MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DOGS TO GET INTO CERTAIN HOMES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I TOTALLY GET THAT. 
          AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE STRUGGLE. 
          UM, AND I WAS ALSO, IF, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT OR YOU'RE GONNA TAKE SOME FEEDBACK BACK AND THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MM-HMM . 
          UM, I ALSO WORK WITH A LOT OF THIRD PARTY ADOPTION SITES, INCLUDING LIKE, HOME TO HOME. 
          AND SINCE I WAS LOOKING FOR HUSKY AND I COULDN'T SEARCH THE A A S WEBSITE, THEN I LOOKED AT SOME OTHER ONES AND I WAS ABLE TO SEARCH HUSKY. 
          SO I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TAKEN AWAY FROM, OR, OR HOW, IF WE USE THOSE THIRD PARTY SITES, WHAT WILL OUR DOGS LOOK LIKE? IS MIXED BREED AVAILABLE ON THE, ON THE ONES THAT WE SEND TO? UM, WE USED TO SEND TO THREE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE SEND TO NOW. 
          AND ALSO FOR THE, THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT OF WAS THE A PO DESCRIPTIONS. 
          I MEAN, IF THEY SEE A DOG RUNNING MM-HMM . 
          ARE THEY GONNA SAY THERE'S A, ARE THEY GONNA WRITE IN THEIR REPORT THERE'S A LOOSE GERMAN SHEPHERD, OR ARE THEY GONNA WRITE, THERE'S A LOOSE MIXED BREED DOG? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS THAT IF IT HAD SOME DESCRIPTION TO IT, AND MAYBE WE COULD JUST KEEP THAT. 
          YEP. 
          THAT WOULD HELP. 
          BUT I THINK THAT IF THEY CALL INTO THREE ONE ONE THAT GENERATES A TICKET THAT GOES TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          SO WHATEVER'S PUT THERE HAS TO BE ABLE TO TRANSLATE INTO THE TICKET. 
          IF A DOG IS FOUND LOOSE, ARE THEY BEHOLDEN TO WHATEVER THE APOS IDENTIFY ON THE STREET BEING, WHAT GOES ON THEIR ADOPTION PAPERWORK? I WOULD IMAGINE. 
          NO, BUT NO, I THINK YOU GOTTA CHANGE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, IT'S THE TICKET. 
          IT'S THE, IT'S HOW DOES THE TICKET GO? RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE IT, IF THE TICKET, IF IT IS A TICKET, IT IS AN OWNED ANIMAL, IN WHICH CASE THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS WHAT THIS PROBLEM IS TRYING TO SOLVE. 
          WE ARE NOT TRYING TO PRETEND THAT BREEDS DON'T EXIST. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO, FOR ANIMALS THAT, FOR DOGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE SHELTER, TO NOT INACCURATELY LABEL THEM WITH A BREED THAT THEN PREVENTS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO GET INTO A HOME. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. 
          AND I, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          MY EXPANDED THOUGHT WAS SINCE THEY'RE PART OF ANIMAL SERVICES, WOULD THEY ALSO SAY IT'S MIXED FREAK? I SEE, I SEE, I SEE. 
          SO WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS INTO 3 1 1 RIGHT. 
          DAVID MIGHT SAY THERE'S A GERMAN SHEPHERD RUNNING DOWN THE STREET THAT WILL JUST BE IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE GET. 
          UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THE INFORMATION INTO, UM, SHELTER BUDDY. 
          I DO REMEMBER WHAT WE'RE USING. 
          SHELTER BUDDY. 
          UM, AND I WOULD ASSUME, RIGHT, THEY COULD PUT MIXED BREED AND THEN IN THE COMMENT NOTES MM-HMM . 
          UH, RIGHT. 
          DESCRIBED IT AS A DARK GERMAN SHEPHERD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OR A BLACK AND WHITE PIT BULL OR WHATEVER COULD BE IN THE NOTES. 
          UM, I THINK THE ONE THING THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY, UM, TO JOANNE'S POINT IS, UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE A SEARCHABLE, A WAY TO BE SEARCHABLE IN THE DATABASE TO SAY, WHERE'S ALL THE HUSKIES AT? FOR THAT CUSTOMER LOOKING FOR THAT, UM, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BRING IN THAT BREED. 
          AND THEN THAT'S GONNA MEAN IT'S ALSO GONNA AUTOMATICALLY PRINT ON THE RABIES CERTIFICATE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND OR THAT ADOPTION, UH, PAPERWORK, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TAKE IT OFF THE KENNEL CARD, WHICH WE HAVE, I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN TAKE IT OFF, UM, THE PET PROFILE, UM, ON ADD APE, BUT IT'S, UM, RIGHT, THE, THE BIGGER ISSUE IS, UM, THE RABIES CERTIFICATE AND, UM, ANIMAL, UM, PAPERWORK. 
          UM, THAT WOULD BE TRICKY TO TAKE THAT OFF AND STILL BE ABLE TO SEARCH FOR A SPECIFIC TYPE OF PET IN THE SHELTER. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, UH, MAY AND MAYBE RIGHT. 
          FINDING OUT HOW THEY DO THAT IN, AT WILLIAMSON COUNTY. 
          YEP. 
          UM, THEY USED TO BE A SMALL SHELTER AND NOW THEY'RE A PRETTY LARGE SHELTER AS WELL. 
          AND HOW THEY, UM, NAVIGATE THAT. 
          I WOULD THEN LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY, TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, UM, OBVIOUSLY I WANT YOU TO LOOK OVER IT, BUT, SO WE CAN ALSO HAVE MISTY LOOK OVER IT TO SEE WHERE WE HAVE MAYBE BEEN TOO SPECIFIC IN OUR LANGUAGE IN A WAY THAT WOULD BOX US INTO A CORNER RATHER THAN SUPPORT US. 
          SO IF I CAN WITHDRAW AND I'LL EMAIL YOU AND WE'LL PUT IT ON NEXT MONTH, THE MOTION PROCESS TO WITHDRAW THE ITEM. 
          NO ONE OBJECTS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          I THINK SHE PROBABLY HAS THAT HAS THE ANSWERS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD IDEA OF A DOG. 
          ONE OF MY FOSTERS 
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WAS ADOPTED 'CAUSE SHE SPECIFICALLY WANTED A BOXER. 
          AND THEN THE DNA CAME BACK AND IT HAD NOT AN IOTA, A BOXER IN IT. 
           . 
          BUT SHE LOVES THE DOG. 
          YEAH. 
          BY THAT POINT, SHE'S IN TOO DEEP. 
          I'M UP AGAIN. 
          MOVING ALONG. 
          [9. Approve a Recommendation to Council regarding Satellite Adoption.  ]
UM, ITEM NINE, APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL FOR SATELLITE ADOPTION CENTER. 
          UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOLT FOR DOING THIS. 
          UM, THIS STEMMED FROM A CONVERSATION WE HAD, AS MOST GOOD IDEAS DO. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I DID A PRESENTATION ON THE NEED FOR AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER TO HAVE SATELLITE ADOPTION, A SATELLITE ADOPTION CENTER. 
          UH, WE NEED TO GET SOME OF THE PETS TO THE PEOPLE. 
          UM, WE, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME LOOK AROUND FOR CITY LAND TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF ADOPTION CENTER, NOT NECESSARILY INTAKE AND EVERYTHING, BUT JUST WHERE WE CAN HAVE ANIMALS IN LAKEWAY, , WHO ARE FAMILY FRIENDLY DOGS BEING IN LAKEWAY. 
          UM, I PUT IT IN AND IT REQUESTED IT BE PART OF A BUDGET AND, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSION. 
          UM, THAT THE COMMISSION DID NOT VOTE FOR THE BUDGET WORKING GROUP. 
          SO NOTHING HAPPENED TO IT. 
          BUT WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGER CITIES WHO HAVE ONE ADOPTION, ONE SHELTER. 
          UH, SO, UM, ANYWAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, OH, MAYBE WE HAVE THE CENTER LOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          MAYBE THERE'S COUNTY LAND, WHICH AT COUNTY OFFICE SPACE OR SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT. 
          SO, UM, I'LL PASS IT ALONG TO YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I SKIPPED AHEAD. 
          SORRY GUYS. 
          I DIDN'T DO A WORKING GROUP FOR THIS, BUT IT IS BASICALLY A COPY AND PASTE FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          UM, SO I FIGURED IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT POPULAR. 
          UM, YEAH, WE JUST WANT TO, LIKE JOANNE SAID, GET MORE, UM, ANIMALS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE, OBVIOUSLY THROUGH EVENTS THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING, BUT CURRENTLY, UM, THERE ARE A, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNED, UH, BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND IS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT ACTUALLY SITS EMPTY. 
          UM, AND SO WE COULD BE SMARTER, NOT HARDER ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, I AM THAT IS IT ? I MOTION TO DO IT TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, EXPLORING FOR A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT MAKE Y'ALL START TALKING MOTION AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT. 
          SO MOTION TO DO IT. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION. 
          I RE I REMEMBER, DIDN'T WE DISCUSS THIS IN THE PAST? AND I I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA. 
          UM, YES WE DID. 
          AND UM, I DID A PRESENTATION ON IT AND, UM, WE DID IT AND ASKED THAT WE, WE WOULD EXPLORE IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET WORKING GROUP. 
          AND THEN THE COMMISSION DID NOT VOTE TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET WORKING GROUP. 
          SO WE NEVER HAD A BUDGET WORKING GROUP. 
          BUDGET GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT, GOT IT. 
          THAT'S WHY IT DIDN'T, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO WHY I SKIPPED AHEAD WITHOUT A WORKING GROUP, SO THAT AS BUDGET DISCUSSIONS ARE RAMPING UP THIS ALSO SINCE SENSE. 
          SO I I I MEAN I I I LIKE A LOT WHAT I READ HERE, THE, AND, UH, MY, MY QUESTION, I MEAN, THIS IS THE BEGINNING. 
          YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. 
          ALWAYS CORRECT. 
          AND, UM, MY, MY, MY QUESTION, IF THIS ENDS UP IN THE COUNCIL, WILL THIS, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WILL THEY LOOK AT IT, OKAY, YEAH, THIS IS GREAT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO, THERE'S A LOT OF THINKING, A LOT OF NUTS, SIMPLE BOLTS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN. 
          I, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THEY DO IT, I CAN, I I REFUSE TO STOP ASKING FOR THE RIGHT THING JUST BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY WILL NECESSARILY DO ANYTHING WITH IT. 
          I HOPE THEY DO. 
          I DO NOT HAVE SOMEONE WHO I'M LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT POSITIVE IS GONNA CHAMPION THIS TO THE END AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND I STILL THINK IT'S THE RIGHT MOVE TO, TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          I MEAN, I I HEAR YOU. 
          SORRY IF THAT SOUNDED DEFENSIVE. 
          I'M JUST SAYING LIKE THAT'S NO, NO, I I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS YOU DO . 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET YOU IN THAT DEFENSIVE BATTLE. 
          I, I I LOVE THIS. 
          I'M JUST WANTING TO MOVE IT FORWARD, THAT'S ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND UM, I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. 
          UM, I KNOW FROM A PAST DIRECTOR I WAS WORKING WITH ON LOOKING FOR SPACE THAT, UM, THE PORTABLE KENNELS YOU CAN USE ARE NOT THAT MUCH. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND THE, AND CATS, UM, IT 
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WASN'T JUST DOGS. 
          UM, IT WAS DOGS AND CATS . 
          UM, AND UH, AND I THINK WHEN YOU GO INTO A NEW AREA, YOU GET A LOT OF NEW VOLUNTEERS WHO DON'T WANNA TRAVEL TO LA VANDER LOOP OR DON'T KNOW WHERE LA VANDER LOOP IS. 
          OR YOU SAY IT'S NEAR THE AIRPORT AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHY DO I WANNA GO THERE? I TAKE AN UBER, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HAVE TO GO, I DON'T WANNA DRIVE. 
          UM, SO YOU GET A REAL EXPANSE OF PEOPLE AND VOLUNTEERS AND UM, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MANY TO START, BUT IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT PETS AND WITH THE RIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN THE RIGHT AREAS AND CAN GET THEM OUT, THEN WE CAN JUST KEEP MOVING THEM. 
          AND I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS AS PART OF THE WHOLE NO KILL THING. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE HELPING INTAKE, IT HELPS GET INTAKE OPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER AREA I KNOW WE LOOKED AT, UM, TAKING A BUILDING ON THE TRAVIS, I WAS PART OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY CORRECTIONAL, UM, DOCK TEAM WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE COVID, WE HAD A DOG ON SITE AND I DID THE DOG EDUCATION EVERY WEEK. 
          AND WE WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TAKING OVER A BUILDING THERE, PUTTING IN PORTABLE KENNELS, AND THE INMATES WOULD TAKE CARE OF THEM AND THERE WOULD BE LIKE 12 DOGS. 
          AND THERE WERE LIKE 12 OR 1300 PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THAT CORRECTIONAL CENTER AND SOME OF WHOM HAVE ADOPTED THE DOGS THAT WERE THERE. 
          SO IT JUST GIVES US AN ABILITY TO EXPAND IN A WAY THAT'S COMFORTABLE FOR THE PETS. 
          ALSO, THE NUANCE OF HOW THIS WILL HAVE TO BE CHAMPIONED IS, IS A THING THAT WILL NEED TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT. 
          AND THE RECOMMENDATION HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU CAN THROW YOUR WEIGHT BEHIND. 
          SO, . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, LOOK AT EXPAND ACCESS TO PET ADOPTION THROUGH SATELLITE ADOPTION CENTERS. 
          I HAVE A BUG HERE. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR? UM, ANYONE? NO ONE'S OPPOSED. 
          IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ITEM 1111, UM, A APPROVE AMENDMENT TO THE RULES AND PROCEDURES REGARDING THE ORDER OF PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A CLARIFICATION. 
          I THINK WE SKIPPED 10. 
          WHAT? WE SKIPPED 10. 
          I MISSED 10. 
          OH, SHOOT, SORRY. 
          UM, I HAD LABELED THEM WRONG AND THEN I HAD TO GO RIGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          A PROVEN 
          [10. Approve an update to the membership of the Pet Friendly Housing Working Group. ]
UPDATE TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE PET FRIENDLY HOUSING WORKING GROUP. 
          THIS IS ON HERE 'CAUSE UM, DR. NIELSEN ASKED ME TO ADD IT. 
          WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW PEOPLE JOINING UNLESS SHE HAS ASKED AND I DON'T, NO. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO, OKAY, WE'RE DONE. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW WE'RE 
          [11. Approve an amendment to the Rules and Procedures regarding the order of public comment.  ]
ON NUMBER 11. 
          A PROVEN AMENDMENT TO THE RULES AND PROCEDURES REGARDING THE ORDER OF PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS ONLY APPLIES TO STAFF BRIEFINGS AND PRESENTATIONS. 
          IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE WORKING GROUP UPDATES AND, OR THE DISCUSSIONS OR THE ACTION ITEMS. SO IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS. 
          SO CURRENTLY, UM, FOR THE, BEFORE THE STAFF UPDATE, UM, PEOPLE SIGN UP TO SPEAK, THEY SPEAK STAFF DOES THEIR UPDATE. 
          WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION AND WE MOVE ON. 
          IF WE APPROVE THIS FOR THAT PORTION, THE STAFF PRESENTATION PORTION, IT WOULD BE THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THEN CITIZEN COMMENTS, THEN US ASKING OUR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. 
          AND IT DOESN'T APPLY FOR, UM, IT, UH, SOMEBODY, IT DOESN'T APPLY FOR LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. 
          SO IT'S JUST FOR THAT OPENING SECTION IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT. 
          SO, UM, WHO, WHO SUBMITTED THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA? COMMISSIONER, HOLD. 
          I FORGOT ABOUT THIS. 
          YEAH, THIS IS JUST A DIRECT RESPONSE TO WHAT PAT ASKED FOR IN THE LAST MEETING. 
          AND I THINK IT WILL EFFECTIVELY CHANGE NOTHING FOR US AND ALSO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY ADVOCATES HAPPY TO FEEL HEARD IN A WAY THAT FEELS MORE VALIDATING. 
          SO THE MOTION, OH, OKAY. 
          WE NEED THAT MOTION. 
          OR CAN WE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION? 'CAUSE IT'S, UM, YOU WOULD NEED A MOTION WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ON THE PUBLIC COMM COMMUNICATION. 
          AND THEN A SECOND FOR THAT. 
          SO WHAT LANGUAGE DO YOU WANT CHANGE? OH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS IT JUST EXACTLY WHAT YOU WROTE IN PINK? YES. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, SO IN THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH, UH, SECOND LINE, IT SAYS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. 
          AND, AND THEN AFTER THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INSERT AFTER PRESENTATIONS, UM, AND THEN PICKING BACK UP WHERE IT SAYS PRIOR TO ANY, AND INSTEAD OF AGENDA ITEMS BEING TAKEN UP, CROSS THAT OUT AND JUST WRITE DISCUSSION. 
          AND THAT WILL CHANGE THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS 
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FOR US. 
          UH, YOU DOING A SECOND? NO, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE LANGUAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU REREAD? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WOULD IT HELP TO REREAD IT OR NO? I, DOES IT NEED TO SAY STAFF PRESENTATIONS? IF WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS FOR STAFF PRESENTATIONS, WE ARE DOING IT FOR ALL AGENDA ITEMS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WASN'T WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM, I THOUGHT WE COULD NOT DO THAT. 
          I THOUGHT WE COULD, YOU COULD DO IT FOR ANY PRESENTATION. 
          SO IF YOU, SO THEY CAN SPEAK AF LIKE AFTER A PRESENTATION HAS BEEN GIVEN, BUT BEFORE ANY DISCUSSION IS HAD. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE FOR, SO, BUT IT'S ONLY FOR STAFF PRESENTATION. 
          IT'S NOT FOR WHEN SOMETHING'S OH, THEN I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS EVEN ASKING FOR. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY IT. 
          WE SPENT SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT  THIS, THIS TIME. 
          SO IT'S, UM, THAT WHAT IT AFFECTS IS, SO OUR, OUR AGENDA'S BROKEN DOWN, SO IT SAYS LIKE STAFF BRIEFINGS, SO IT WOULD APPLY TO STAFF BRIEFINGS. 
          BUT THE NEXT SECTION IS WORKING GROUP UPDATES. 
          IT DOES NOT APPLY TO WORKING GROUP UPDATE UPDATES. 
          IT DOES NOT APPLY TO DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. IS THAT CORRECT, MS. WATSON? YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. 
          SO DOES THIS STILL, THIS IS SO ACCURATE WHAT I'M READING. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT SHOULD, THAT SHOULD STILL WORK BECAUSE, UH, EVEN IF IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM, THERE MIGHT BE LIKE A PRESENTATION THEY CAN SPEAK AFTER THE PRESENTATION, BUT BEFORE DISCUSSION. 
          BUT WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DISCUSSION ITEM? DO YOU MEAN THAT, ARE YOU SAYING THAT ON WHERE IT SAYS DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS? NO, LIKE IF, UM, A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT WASN'T A CITY DEPARTMENT CAME TO GIVE A PRESENTATION, THEY LIKE WITH THE NEW LANGUAGE OF JUST, UM, BEFORE, UH, PRESENTATIONS, THEN THEY CAN OKAY. 
          YOU LIKE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT STILL GOES, THAT STILL GOES UNDER STAFF BRIEFINGS, RIGHT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WOULD THAT GO UNDER? THAT WOULD GO UNDER DISCUSSION IF IT'S A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT'S NOT A CITY DEPARTMENT, BUT IT SHOULD STILL WORK IF IT'S AFTER A PRESENTATION THAT THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION HAPPENS. 
          SO ARE ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND PAN PRINT? WHAT CAN BE NO, JUST THIS MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT SEEMS. MM-HMM . 
          SO DOES IT MEAN THAT AFTER THE WHATEVER WE, AFTER A PRESENTATION, THE SPEAKERS, PEOPLE WHO SIGN UP CAN TALK SO THEY CAN REACT TO IT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M ASKING . 
          SO THE PUBLIC WILL STILL HAVE TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK BEFORE THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER MM-HMM . 
          HOWEVER THEY CAN SPEAK AFTER THE PRESENTATION OR BRIEFING HAS BEEN GIVEN, BUT BEFORE ANY DISCUSSION IS TAKEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S JUST CHANGING THE ORDER OF OPERATION OF WHEN THEY SPEAK ON ANY, LIKE, STAFF BRIEFING ITEMS OR A DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          IF IT INCLUDES A PRESENTATION, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S PAT, THEN MONICA, THEN WE DISCUSS AND IT WOULD BE MONICA, THEN PAT, THEN WE DISCUSS AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO SWITCH. 
          I THOUGHT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT. 
          SO IT WAS FOR ALL THINGS WE WERE VOTING ON, BUT IF IT'S JUST FOR BRIEFINGS, THEN STILL I WANT IT ON HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY, I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT OTHER, I WAS JUST CLARIFYING BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OUR LANGUAGE MATCHED WHAT WE WERE DOING. 
          I MISREAD AN EMAIL AT SOME POINT AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. 
          I SAID I'M, I LIKE TO MOVE THINGS LIKE A PIECE OF PAPER. 
          SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND EX EXACTLY. 
          IS IT FOR EVERY ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR JUST FOR PRESENTATIONS? AND WHAT IF A WORKING GROUP MAKES A PRESENTATION? WE DON'T REALLY EVER MAKE A PRESENTATION. 
          WELL, A WORKING GROUP WOULD PROVIDE AN UPDATE OR PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY DON'T TYPICALLY PROVIDE LIKE, CREATE PRESENTATIONS. 
          SO THEN, RIGHT. 
          SO THEN IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THAT. 
          THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          IT DOES NOT APPLY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO SAY IS LIKE WHEN THE, UM, UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMALS THAT WE FIND ON THE STREET AND HOW THEY'RE SCANNING THEM, THEY COULD DO THAT. 
          THE STAFF COULD DO THAT PRESENTATION AND THEN THE CITIZENS COULD TALK AFTER THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT IT, IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO LIKE THIS DISCUSSION. 
          WE WOULDN'T SAY I'M MAKING THIS MOTION AND NOW THEY GET TO TALK. 
          SO, SO IT'S RELATED TO THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS PRESENTED, CORRECT. 
          OH, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING AS LONG AS IT'S ON THAT TOPIC. 
          SO WE CAN DO THE, IF YOU WANNA DO A MOTION IN A SECOND, THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT. 
          SO. 
          GREAT. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE EDIT TO SAY GENERAL PUBLIC 
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COMMUNICATION AND PRESENTATION PRIOR TO ANY DISCUSSION PERIOD. 
          BE HOW THE SECOND LINE OF THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH READS. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL SECOND OKAY. 
          DAVID, SECONDS. 
          OKAY. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          UM, WELL I'LL SAY I DISAGREE WITH THIS ONE. 
          . 
          UM, I THINK THAT THE PRES PRESENTATIONS ARE POSTED AHEAD OF TIME. 
          I THINK THE CITIZENS HAVE THE ABILITY TO READ THE PRESENTATION MATERIAL AHEAD OF TIME AND MAKE THEIR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS THAT THEY MAKE AHEAD OF THE TIME. 
          UM, I DON'T WANNA PUT STAFF ON THE SPOT FEELING LIKE THEY NEED TO REPLY TO CITIZEN COMMENTS TO THEIR PRESENTATIONS, SOME OF WHICH COULD BE A TOMA VIOLATION. 
          UM, SO, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD A PRESENTATION TODAY ABOUT, UM, THINGS AT THE SHELTER, AND IF SOMEONE SUDDENLY SAID, WELL, I WANT TO A CITIZEN FOCUSED ON, UM, A TOPIC THAT WASN'T IN THE PRESENTATION, THEN WE SHOULD NOT BRING IT UP AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S A TOMA VIOLATION. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE PRESENTATION AND IT'S NOT A DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          SO IT GETS KIND OF IN THAT LIKE, CONFUSED GRAY AREA. 
          AND, UH, I THINK IF CITIZENS WANTING TO SPEAK, THEY CAN SIGN UP AND SPEAK, THEY CAN READ EVERYTHING AHEAD OF TIME AND BE PREPARED JUST LIKE WE ARE . 
          UM, AND WE DO THE SAME THING. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT. 
          UM, I ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          UH, SO WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THIS CHANGE? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, THE PRESENTATIONS THAT GO ONLINE ARE GOOD AND YOU CAN STILL ONLY GET SO MUCH FROM A POWERPOINT AS OPPOSED TO LIKE HEARING SOMEBODY ACTUALLY TALK. 
          I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE SEE ISSUES RAISED AND LIKE, I MEAN THIS IS, I GUESS I COULD ARGUE ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS, BUT WE'LL SEE ISSUES RAISED IN THE COMMENT MADE BY THE PUBLIC AND THEN SOMETIMES THEY GET ADDRESSED AND CLARIFIED BY STAFF IN A WAY THAT LIKE THAT, THAT THAT PERSON MIGHT NOT HAVE NECESSARILY EVEN NEEDED TO SPEAK AT THAT POINT. 
          OR THEY MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEEN ABLE TO STEER AND ASK MORE THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS THAT DIDN'T END UP GETTING ADDRESSED. 
          SO, UM, IT, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE TOMA VIOLATION CONCERN. 
          UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT ALLOWS FOR MORE THOUGHTFUL ENGAGEMENT FROM, UM, FROM OUR, YEAH. 
          THE ADVOCATES WHO COME. 
          SO I, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK BY MOVING IT, WE'RE ALLOWING ANY DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE, IT'S A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING VERSUS IT'S NOT A FREE OPTION TO THEN DO A Q AND A WITH THE PERSON WHO JUST DID THAT PRESENTATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT ASKING QUESTIONS, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST GIVING PEOPLE A CHANCE TO, IN MY OPINION, REACT TO THE ACTUAL WHOLE THING WE'RE DISCUSSING VERSUS WHAT'S ON PAPER, WHICH OFTEN THROUGH NOBODY'S FAULT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO DO OR IS OFTEN PUT UP VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          SO, UM, I'M JUST CLARIFYING. 
          WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT EVEN TALKING, YOU KNOW, THEN THE PERSON HEARS THE PRESENTATION AND THEN HE HAS TO LIKE REALLY QUICKLY DECIDE, OKAY, NOW HERE'S MY THREE MINUTES, WHAT AM I GONNA TALK ABOUT? SO IT DOES PUT A LITTLE BURDEN ON THEM, BUT I SEE YOUR POINT. 
          SO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE, IF SOMEONE HAS PREPARED COMMENTS, THEY CAN STILL GIVE THOSE PREPARED COMMENTS REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAD BEEN SAID OVER THE COURSE OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I DON'T, I THINK IT DOES NOT CHANGE IN MY MIND IF I'M PUTTING MYSELF IN THE SPEAKERS, NOT THE PRESENTER, BUT THE LIKE COMMUNITY SPEAKERS PRESENTATION, IT ONLY OFFERS MORE OPTIONS TO THEM. 
          IT DOES NOT BOX THEM IN EITHER WAY. 
          BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OBVIOUSLY, OF NOT WANTING TO PUT STAFF ON THE SPOT. 
          AND I THINK STAFF GETS PUT ON THE SPOT A LOT. 
          AND THIS MIGHT, UM, ALLOW FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO OFFER, UM, FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS IN A WAY THAT IS, UM, BASED ON REALITY AND NOT PERCEPTION. 
          UM, AND SO I'M, I'M ACTUALLY HOPING IT WOULD KIND OF REDUCE TENSIONS THERE. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE WEIRD. 
          SO  WELL, AND, AND THE STAFF WOULD JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT IF IT'S NOT IN THERE AND IT'S OFF TOPIC JUST TO SAY, I CAN'T ADDRESS THIS NOW, OR I'M NOT PREPARED TO ADDRESS THIS NOW, I'LL FOLLOW BACK AND NOT FEEL BURDENED THAT THEY HAVE TO BRING THINGS UP. 
          YEAH. 
          STAFF, THIS WOULD BE JUST LIKE NORMAL PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF IS NOT BEHOLDEN IN ANY WAY TO RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          BUT SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS. 
          . 
          UM, SO, UM, OKAY. 
          SOMEBODY, YES, 
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SOMEBODY, OH, OH, SORRY. 
          I, IT'S HARD TO SEE YOU WITH YOUR BACKGROUND. 
          GO AHEAD, AHMED. 
          COMMISSIONER AHMED. 
          HI. 
          YEAH, THANKS. 
          I WOULD SAY, UH, WHITNEY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INTENTION HERE TO MAKE THE PUBLIC CITIZEN COMMENT HERE MORE PROXIMATE AND INFORMED BY THE PRESENTATION IN ADDITION TO, UH, WHAT THE VICE CHAIR SAID. 
          I WOULD ALSO ADD, BECAUSE THE ORDER WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM, FOR JUST ITEMS WHERE THERE IS A PRESENTATION, I THINK IT MIGHT CONFUSE THE, THE ORDER OF THE MEETING A LITTLE BIT MM-HMM . 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE A REASON WHY I MIGHT HAVE SOME CONCERN WITH THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S VALID 'CAUSE YOU'RE DOING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. 
          UM, UH, CAN I ASK MS. WATSON, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO IT THE WAY THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING? I DON'T DUNNO. 
          OF ANY YOU DON'T KNOW. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW OF ANY, OR YOU JUST I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO ALLOW THE COMMENTS TO BE AFTER 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, RIGHT? 8, 5, 6, 7. 
          OKAY. 
          AND AGAINST, DID YOU VOTE? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          AND THEN I ABSTAIN. 
          ABSTAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO WAS AGAINST? UH, MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER HUDDLESTON. 
          AND COMMISSIONER AHMED. 
          YOU'RE AGAIN, YOU'RE A NO. 
          OKAY, THEN THE MOTION PASSES RIGHT NOW. 
          I REALLY AM DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR 
          [12. Approve the appointment of a chair and committee members OR the dissolution of the No  Kill subcommittee.  ]
FINAL ITEM IS, UH, WELL ALMOST IS, UH, NUMBER 12. 
          UH, APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, OR THE DISSOLUTION OF THE NOCO SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          UM, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. 
          OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CRAIG NAZER. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS CRAIG NAZER. 
          I KNOW SOME OF YOU. 
          UH, I WAS ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR EIGHT YEARS. 
          UH, I WAS THE CHAIR FOR THE LAST TWO OR THREE. 
          UM, AND THIS, UH, COMMITTEE WAS APPROVED WHILE I WAS CHAIR, AND THERE WAS A VERY GOOD REASON FOR IT. 
          THE REASON WAS, WHEN I FIRST JOINED THE COMMISSION, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT NOKI WAS. 
          WHEN TONY, HE TOLD ME ABOUT IT, I SAID, HOW DOES THAT WORK? BUT I GOT APPOINTED THE COMMISSION AND I LEARNED, 'CAUSE WE HAD A VERY GOOD DIRECTOR WHO KNEW WHAT NO KILL WAS. 
          SHE WASN'T AN EFFUSIVE PERSON. 
          BUT BY WATCHING HER AND TALKING TO HER, I, I LEARNED, AND IT WORKS. 
          I SAW IT WORK. 
          NOW IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT WAS SO MUCH BETTER FROM WHAT WE HAD SO MUCH MORE INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WHAT IT, SO IT WENT ALONG AND THEN SHE LEFT. 
          AND WE HAD ANOTHER PERSON WHO FOLLOWED THE SAME PATH, SAME SOPS, SAME STAFF, AND IT WORKED. 
          AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER, UH, UH, INTERIM WHO LATER BECAME PART DIRECTOR. 
          AND SHE DIDN'T WANNA BE, I DON'T THINK SHE REALLY WANTED TO BE A ANIMAL SERVICE DIRECTOR, BUT SHE FOLLOWED WHAT WAS GOING ON AND IT WORKED. 
          AND THEN WE GOT A DIRECTOR AND WE DID NOT HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR PICKING THAT DIRECTOR. 
          HE WAS SELECTED BY THE CITY MANAGER PRETTY MUCH. 
          AND IT QUIT WORKING. 
          AND I SAT HERE THROUGH MEETINGS AND SAW IT AND IT DIDN'T WORK. 
          AND WHAT HAPPENED IS IT BECAME DISSONANCE BETWEEN THE VOLUNTEER GROUPS WITH WHICH WE STILL HAVE TOO MUCH OF. 
          YOU KNOW, IF, IF SNOW CO'S GONNA WORK, EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE, ON THE SAME BOAT. 
          YOU DON'T SAY YOU'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH. 
          YOU DON'T DO THAT. 
          I MEAN, IT WON'T WORK THAT WAY. 
          YOU DON'T TELL, WE DON'T WANT YOU VOLUNTEERS. 
          WE DON'T NEED FOSTERS. 
          WE DON'T NEED THAT. 
          IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. 
          WE NOW HAVE A DIRECTOR WHO I'VE MET, AND I THINK, AND I THINK SHE UNDERSTANDS HOW NO KILL WORKS. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT HER. 
          THIS COMMITTEE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO SPECIFIC NO KILL THINGS AND THINGS MAY CHANGE. 
          DIFFERENT PEOPLE GET APPOINTED. 
          BUT IT IS STILL THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, POLICY. 
          UH, THE DIRECTOR'S SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW CITY COUNCIL 
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POLICY. 
          AND THIS IS ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO CAN SIT THERE AND MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. 
          I'LL TELL YOU WHY. 
          THE SHELTER NEEDS TO BE INVITING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IT WAS NOT THAT INVITING. 
          AND HERE'S WHY. 
          YOU KNOW, WHY PEOPLE GO TO THE SHELTER. 
          THEY GO TO THE SHELTER TO FALL IN LOVE. 
          THINK ABOUT IT. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY GO TO THE SHELTER. 
          SO WHAT KIND OF SHELTER DO YOU HAVE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND FALL IN LOVE? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSIE CHASE. 
          GOOD EVENING, VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          I'M SUZY CHASE, DISTRICT 10 CONSTITUENT AND FORMER STAFF TO TWO AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING FOR AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, SUPPORTING THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S DESIGNATION AS THE LARGEST NO KILL CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          I'M SPEAKING TODAY REGARDING ITEM 12, TO URGE YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          IT'S CRUCIAL TO SUPPORT THE DIRECTIVE PAST BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL IN 2010, AND THEN IN 2019. 
          FURTHERMORE, THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WILL PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH THE NECESSARY FRAMEWORK TO DEVELOP A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO EFFECTIVELY SUPPORT AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          AFTER SIX LONG YEARS, AUSTIN RESIDENTS FINALLY HAVE A DIRECTOR OF AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES, WHO IS COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING ANIMALS IN THE SHELTER. 
          SO A VOTE OF THE DISILLUSION OF THE NO KILL SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE A CLEAR INDICATION OF A DIMINISHED COMMITMENT FROM YOU TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT CARE FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS, UM, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THE COMMITTEE VERSUS THE WORKING GROUP. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING TO PEOPLE. 
          SO, COMMITTEES, UM, ARE ESTABLISHED BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE BOARD. 
          UM, IT CANNOT MEET UNTIL IT'S ALSO THEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, IT NEEDS AT LEAST THREE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, OR COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT WORDS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE AT THE CITY, UM, ON THEIR, UH, AND, UH, THAT ARE APPOINTED. 
          UM, THREE BOARD MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE CHAIR OF STAFF. 
          UM, MEMBERS SHALL BE ASSIGNED TO EACH COMMITTEE BY THE DIRECTOR OF AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES, WHICH MEANS IT TAKES UP STAFF TIME ALSO. 
          UM, THE BOARD CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE ME TONIGHT, UM, SHALL APPOINT A BOARD MEMBER AS THE COMMITTEE CHAIR WITH THE MEMBER'S CONSENT. 
          UM, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF APPOINTED MEMBERS AS IT CONSISTS, IS A QUORUM. 
          SO IF THERE'S THREE, TWO IS A QUORUM, UH, EACH COMMITTEE SHALL MEET ON A REGULAR SCHEDULED BASIS, AT LEAST QUARTERLY. 
          THEY MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE BOARD IN JAN AT THE JANUARY BOARD MEETING. 
          COMMITTEE MEETINGS MUST BE POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS GOVERNING RULES. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, TAKES UP MORE STAFF TIME. 
          UH, THE STAFF DOES THAT. 
          UM, AT EACH COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, YOU HAVE TO DO A SIGN IN SHEET LIKE WE DO. 
          YOU CAN HAVE HYBRID, UM, MEETINGS, SO THEY CAN BE, UM, VIRTUAL. 
          UH, YOU HAVE TO SIGN A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, UH, UH, STATEMENT, UH, WITH A WORKING GROUP, UM, WHICH WE HAVE MORE OF AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. 
          UM, THE BOARD CAN DETERMINE THE SIZE OF A WORKING GROUP, BUT THE NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS SERVING ON THE BOARD HAS TO BE LESS THAN A QUORUM. 
          SO WE HAVE TO HAVE LESS THAN SEVEN. 
          WE HAVE A LOT ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN WORKING GROUP. 
          SO THAT'S ONE WE HAD TO BE CAREFUL WITH. 
          A WORKING GROUP MAY DESIGNATE A CHAIR, UM, WITH THE MEMBER'S CONSENT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CHAIR. 
          UH, A QUORUM RULES DON'T APPLY TO WORKING GROUPS. 
          UH, STAFF UP SUPPORT WILL NOT BE PROVIDED FOR WORKING GROUPS. 
          SO THERE'S NO BUDGET IMPACT. 
          UH, WORKING GROUPS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO POST THEIR MEETINGS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, WITH THE STATE, UH, GOVERNMENT RULES. 
          SO, UM, OUR COMMISSION HAS ONE WORKING GROUP HAS, UH, ONE COMMITTEE, SORRY, UM, LOTS OF WORKING GROUPS, MOSTLY  COMMISSIONER, LTZ . 
          UM, WE HAVE ONE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE TO SUSTAIN AND ADVANCE NO KILL. 
          IT WAS, UM, APPROVED IN, UH, FEBRUARY OF 2014, UH, UH, FEBRUARY 20, 14TH OF 2022 BY AUDIT AND FINANCE. 
          UM, THE MEMBERS WERE ASSIGNED BY THE COMMISSION IN JULY, 2022. 
          AND, UM, IT HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINCE THEN. 
          NOT ONE MEETING, NOT ONE. 
          ANYTHING. 
          UM, WHEN THIS AGENDA ITEM 
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WAS POSTED, IT WAS POSTED SO THAT WE COULD HAVE TWO CHOICES. 
          UM, ONE CHOICE WAS TO DISSOLVE, UM, THE COMMITTEE SINCE IT HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR FOUR YEARS. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER IS TO KEEP THE COMMITTEE AND POSSIBLY ASSIGN MEMBERS. 
          UM, WE FOUND OUT LATE TODAY THAT THE WORDING ON OUR AGENDA DOES NOT ALLOW US THE OPTION TO WITHDRAW, TO DISSOLVE THE GROUP. 
          UM, WE, IT, THE WORDING WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT OPTION. 
          SO WE AS A BODY, UM, DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE ITEM SO THAT WE HAVE THE OPTION TO EITHER DISSOLVE THE COMMITTEE AND OR CONTINUE THE COMMITTEE, BUT WE HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US WHEN WE WORK ON THE ITEM AND DISCUSS IT. 
          SO, DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER DANIEL. 
          UM, WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING OUR DISCUSSION TO WITHDRAWING THE ITEM TILL NEXT MONTH WHEN WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE CHANGE, SO THAT WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US, WHICH WE THOUGHT WE HAD THIS MONTH. 
          UM, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, YOUR, THIS IS LIKE LEGIT A QUESTION. 
          UM, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE WITHDRAWING CORRECTLY, OR IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN DO LIKE A UNOFFICIAL VOTE JUST TO FIGURE OUT IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THE COMMITTEE? LIKE, ARE, ARE WE DELAYING FOR AN OPTION THAT IS NOT GONNA, THAT IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE WANT? OR ARE WE DELAYING FOR AN OPTION THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT? IS THERE A WAY TO LIKE, CHECK THAT? WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE DELAYING. 
          SO WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT AND HAVE TO, AND HAVE BOTH OPTIONS. 
          YOU WANT MS. WATSON, SO YOU CAN, THE MOTION CURRENTLY IS TO WITHDRAW. 
          SO ONCE DISCUSSION IS FINISHED BASED ON HOW PEOPLE WANT, LIKE YOU CAN VOTE. 
          IF THE VOTE PASSES FOR THE MO THE, UM, ITEM TO BE WITHDRAWN, THEN IT WOULD JUST BE BROUGHT ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA WITH BOTH OPTIONS. 
          HOWEVER, IF THAT MOTION PASS, I MEAN, FAILS, SOMEONE ELSE COULD MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT. 
          SO IF THAT'S YEAH. 
          DOES, DOES THAT HELP? OKAY. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER ER, JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE VICE CHAIR SAID. 
          UM, THIS COMMISSION IN AND OF ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DISSOLVE THE, THE COMMITTEE. 
          IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO PASS, UM, A VOTE THAT WE DON'T WE, THAT WE NO LONGER WANT THE COMMITTEE AND THEN THAT MUST THEN GO TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND SO IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT THAT THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS MANDATED THAT THEY WANT AUSTIN TO BE A NO KILL CITY, MAYBE WE CAN JUST AGREE OR WE'LL SEE WHEN WE TAKE THE VOTE, AGREE THAT JUST BY THIS COMMISSION SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN VERY WELL SAY, BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE IT. 
          YES. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          THAT IS TRUE. 
          I MEAN, WE, WE CAN VOTE THAT WE DON'T WANNA DO, WE DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE. 
          UM, BUT, AND WE CAN JUST SAY IT DUE TO INACTIVITY. 
          UM, BUT, UM, IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO CITY COUNCIL, SO WE COULD BE BACK HERE DOING IT AGAIN. 
          BUT IT DOES GIVE US, BUT WITHDRAWING IT TONIGHT ENDS THE DISCUSSION AND WE COULD CHANGE THE LANGUAGE AND HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION NEXT, NEXT MONTH. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER NEER AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT THE VICE CHAIR SAID, THE REASON THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS NOT MET IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT POSTED ON THE BYLAWS AND THEREFORE IT WAS NOT ALLOWED TO MEET. 
          JUST SO EVERYBODY HAS CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, THAT'S THE REASON IT HAS NEVER MET BEFORE, BECAUSE IT MUST BE POSTED ON THE BYLAWS AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN POSTED ON THE BYLAWS. 
          SO IT WASN'T JUST DUE TO INACTIVITY, IT WAS BECAUSE IT WASN'T EVER POSTED ON THE BYLAWS. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY MS. WATSON. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOKED BACK, UM, IT WAS POSTED ON THE BYLAWS. 
          UH, IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE INACTIVITY, IT WAS, IT WENT UNDER THE RADAR. 
          UM, SO WE DID LOOK BACK, UH, HISTORICALLY AND, UM, ITEM ARTICLE EIGHT, UH, UH, ITEM H WAS, WAS PRESENT ON THE BYLAWS. 
          YES. 
          AND, UM, JUST SO ALL OF YOU KNOW, ON JANUARY 6TH, 2026 OF THIS YEAR, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER 
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NELSON, UM, LINDER AND I, UM, RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT WE HAD TO UPDATE THE BYLAWS TO MEET THE NEW, UM, FORMATTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, I THOUGHT I HAD TO DO IT, BUT, UM, MS. WATSON, UH, DID IT FOR US ON ONE NINE OF 2026. 
          UM, WE RECEIVED, UM, THE UPDATED BYLAWS TO, TO REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL COMPLETE. 
          AND THAT ITEM WAS THERE AND WE ALL SAW IT. 
          UM, SO IT'S BEEN, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS THERE BEFORE IT WAS THERE BECAUSE I, WHEN I TRIED TO EDIT IT, BUT, UH, WHEN I THOUGHT THAT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY, BUT IT'S AT LEAST BEEN THERE SINCE JANUARY 9TH BECAUSE I PRE-READ IT. 
          . 
          UM, I FEAR THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO DEBATING THE MERITS OF THE TWO OPTIONS. 
          ARE WE ABLE, AM I ABLE TO JUST CALL THE QUESTION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE PUSHING THIS TO NEXT MONTH OR NOT? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO CALL QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AGAIN, THE MOTION IS WE JUST WANT TO WITHDRAW THIS ITEM SO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO DISSOLVE THE COMMITTEE AND OR CONTINUE THE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE BOTH OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US. 
          SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE WITHDRAWAL TODAY. 
          SO WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4 FOR WITHDRAWING AND ALL IN FAVOR, WELL WITHDRAWING TO FOR NEXT MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          WITHDRAWING TO HAVE IT ON NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, SO PARDON ME AGAINST, OH, WHO'S AGAINST WHO WITHDRAWAL. 
          SO 5 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. 
          QUORUM IS SEVEN. 
          WELL, THE MOTION PASSES. 
          YEAH, THE MOTION DOESN'T PASS. 
          SO THEN SINCE I'M THE ONE WHO PUT IT ON THE VICE CHAIR, MAY I GO FORWARD WITH MY PRESENTATION? YES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AS VICE CHAIR, UM, NORTON SAID, THIS IS THE COMMITTEE TO SUSTAIN AN ADVANCE NO KILL. 
          I'VE GOT THREE BASIC REASONS WHY I THINK THAT THIS COMMITTEE SHOULD STAND AND WHY WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND APPOINT ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND SIX MEMBERS TO IT AS WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO. 
          THE FIRST WAS THAT IT WAS THIS, UH, COMMITTEE WAS UNANIMOUSLY PASSED BY THE COMMISSION IN 2021 BECAUSE WE FELT THAT IT WAS NEEDED TO HELP MAINTAIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S NO KILL MANDATE IN THE FACE OF AN ANTI NO KILL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE SHELTER. 
          THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY BY THE CITY COUNCIL, SHOWS THEIR SUPPORT IN MAINTAINING THEIR NO KILL MANDATE FOR THE CITY SHELTER. 
          AND USING THIS COMMITTEE TO HELP ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE COMMITTEE WAS FORMED TO SUSTAIN AN ADVANCE NO KILL. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T BE OPEN TO CHANGE BECAUSE THE NO KILL AGENDA IS NOT STATIC. 
          IT IS FOREVER EVOLVING. 
          AND THE COMMITTEE MUST FOCUS ON ISSUES THAT ARE PRESENT NOW, LIKE OPENING INTAKE, SO PEOPLE ARE NOT TOLD TO PUT, FOUND ANIMALS BACK ON THE STREET WHERE THEY WERE FOUND. 
          NOW THIS DOESN'T ENCOMPASS DISMANTLING NO KILL BECAUSE IT WAS FORMED TO SUSTAIN AN ADVANCED NO KILL, NOT TO DESTROY IT. 
          THUS, THIS COMMITTEE MUST BE OPEN AND FLEXIBLE TO THE NEW IDEAS ON HOW TO MAINTAIN THE CITY. 
          COUNCIL'S NO KILL MANDATE, WHICH I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO. 
          PART OF SUSTAINING AND MAINTAINING NO KILL IS TO HELP THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY'S SHELTER DEVELOP POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO IMPLEMENT THAT MOVE, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND MOVE THE NEEDLE CLOSER TO A MANAGEABLE NO KILL SHELTER. 
          THE COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN CONSTITUENTS ALL WANT THE, ALL WANT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO SUCCEED IN HER NEW POSITION AND FOR THE CITY'S SHELTER TO BECOME THE BEST NO KILL SHELTER IN THE COUNTRY. 
          AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE WITH COLLABORATION WITH SHELTER MANAGEMENT. 
          THAT IS WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS SET UP TO DO. 
          PLEASE GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO TRY AND DO THAT. 
          SO, UH, COMMISSIONER NEER, DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? 
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I DO HAVE A MOTION. 
          AND THAT IS THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ASSIGN A CHAIR AND COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO THE NO KILL COMMITTEE. 
          THE SECOND. 
          THE SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND IS BAIL. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 AGAINST, UH, WHO'S AGAINST DOING IT? SUPPOSED TO BE SOME DISCUSSION. 
          WAIT, HANG ON. 
          NO, WE'VE GOT IT. 
          WE HAVE TO. 
          THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION BEFORE THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE. 
          OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          YES, I AM. 
          I KNEW. 
          OKAY, DISCUSSION. 
          ALL RIGHT, I'LL START. 
          UM, SO I'M OPPOSED TO THIS. 
          OBVIOUSLY I VOTED FOR IT IN 2021 WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, I'M AGAINST IT BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. 
          UM, IT HASN'T DONE ANYTHING. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER NUMER WAS ONE, HAS BEEN THE ONE PERSON WHO'S STILL ASSIGNED TO THAT COMMITTEE, UM, THE WHOLE TIME. 
          UM, AND THERE'S BEEN NOTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE MEANTIME. 
          OH MY GOSH. 
          THE GOOD WORK WE'VE DONE WITH WORKING GROUPS, UM, THAT ARE HERE, THAT ARE TRANSPARENT, WE'RE ENGAGED AND THE CITIZENS ARE ENGAGED. 
          WE PASSED THE VICIOUS DOG ORDINANCE, WHICH, UM, HELPS KEEP PEOPLE WITH THEIR PETS AND, UH, NOT GET DOGS USED EUTHANIZED IF THEY'RE VICIOUS BECAUSE THE OLD WAY IS YOU HAD TO JUST MOVE 'EM FROM AUSTIN TO PFLUGERVILLE AND NOW YOU CAN KEEP THE PET WITH RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE SIMILAR, MORE SIMILAR TO DANGEROUS DOG. 
          UH, WE'VE BANNED THE BULL HOOKS. 
          UM, WE'VE WORKED ON AWFULLY DOGS AND RAISED PUBLIC AWARENESS FOR THAT. 
          UM, WE'VE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS CONCERNING BAT PROTECTIONS. 
          WE'VE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING PUBLIC INTERACTIONS WITH FOR-PROFIT ZOOS AND AQUARIUMS. WE WORKED WITH PETO WITH THAT, UM, ABOUT HIS, UH, LOCATION UP IN CEDAR PARK. 
          UM, WE'VE PROMOTED, WE HAD WORKING GROUPS THAT PROMOTED SPAY NEUTER EVENTS THAT ABSOLUTELY IMPACT NO KILL AND, AND THE LIVES OF ANIMALS. 
          AND THIS GROUP WAS SO SUCCESSFUL WITH CODA. 
          WE'VE HAD THE PET FRIENDLY HOUSING WORKING GROUPS, UM, THE BUDGET WORKING GROUPS, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WORKING GROUPS. 
          WE HAVE SO MANY NUMBERS. 
          IF YOU COULD SEE, UM, UH, ALL THE THOUGHT AND PROCESS. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER LOGAN HAS DONE, YOU KNOW, REMARKABLE WORK PUTTING HIS COMMENTS IN BASED ON HIS EXPERIENCE AT A A S I'VE PUT IN MINE. 
          UM, THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS IDEAS WE HAVE WHERE WE'RE ENGAGED WITH THEM. 
          UM, THOSE ARE ALL THROUGH WORKING GROUPS. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT. 
          UM, WE, UM, GIVE MONTHLY UPDATES, UH, AS YOU KNOW, UM, FROM A LOT THAT WE HAVE. 
          CITIZENS CAN BE MEMBERS AND HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHICH I THINK IS SUCH A VALUABLE PART OF WORKING GROUPS. 
          WHEN WE HAD THE OFF-LEASH DOG WORKING GROUP, UM, SOME CITIZENS AND I ACTUALLY DID A, UH, HELP PARKS BY HOLDING A FOCUS GROUP FOR THEM ON, UH, HAVING OTHER OFF LEASH DOG PARKS. 
          AND IN THESE TIMES OF TIGHT BUDGETS, NO STAFF TIME IS REQUIRED FOR REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M PERSONALLY AGAINST THE COMMITTEE IDEA SINCE IT HASN'T WORKED IN FOUR YEARS. 
          AND REALLY, UM, WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE ANY IDEA FOR NO KILL JUST DONE THROUGH WORKING GROUPS. 
          AND WE'VE DONE THIS. 
          EVERYTHING WE DO IS TO HELP THE SHELTER SUCCEED THROUGH WORKING GROUPS QUICK. 
          UM, IDENTIFYING THINGS, YOU KNOW, HAVING CONVERSATIONS, UM, ABOUT SATELLITE ADOPTIONS. 
          AND BOOM, WE DID SOMETHING. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A QUARTER UPDATE. 
          SO THAT'S MY RATIONALE. 
          COMMISSIONER MORAN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, I I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD POINTS. 
          I WANTED TO ALSO UNDERSTAND FROM COMMISSIONER NEER, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE THE COMMITTEE AND I WAS CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, AFTER HEARING THIS, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL SPECIFICALLY THAT, UM, A WORKING GROUP WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH VERSUS THE COMMITTEE ON THAT? JUST TRULY JUST ASKING. 
          YES. 
          YES, I DO. 
          UM, BECAUSE A COMMITTEE IS LONGSTANDING IN THE SENSE THAT A COMMITTEE, IT NEVER GOES AWAY UNTIL IT'S DISSOLVED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND IN ORDER TO HELP THE SHELTER THERE, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO DO A WORKING GROUP, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SET UP A WORKING GROUP FOR EVERY SINGLE THING THAT MY, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DANGLER MIGHT WANT HELP WITH. 
          AND THEN DISSOLVE IT IMMEDIATELY. 
          'CAUSE WORKING GROUPS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE THERE FOR VERY LONG. 
          WHEREAS WHEN WE PASSED THIS, AND IT WAS DONE INITIALLY, IT WAS FOR THE FOR ALL, FOR ALL ETERNITY, 
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SO TO SPEAK, UNTIL THE COM, UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO DISSOLVE IT. 
          AND WE CAN TACKLE MANY, MANY, MANY DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE, THE, AN, THE ASSET ANIMAL SERVICES DIVISION WITHOUT HAVING TO KEEP GETTING A WORKING GROUP TOGETHER, GETTING THE, THE EVERYBODY TO GET TOGETHER AND DOING THAT PIECEMEAL BY PIECEMEAL BY PIECEMEAL. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SET UP THE WAY IT'S SET UP. 
          I I I WANT OH, , SORRY, BY CHAIR. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THE WORKING GROUPS ARE GREAT AND I THINK THE COMMITTEE WILL IS WILL BE OF SOMETHING GREAT. 
          I THINK THAT WILL COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER. 
          UM, THE, THE WORKING GROUP IS, LIKE NANCY SAID, IT'S SOMETHING TEMPORARY AND GETS DISSOLVED. 
          IT, AND I HAVE BEEN THE COMMISSION, WHAT, THREE AND A HALF YEARS, AND I, I'VE SEEN, UH, TOPICS COME UP AND GO AND, AND COME BACK BECAUSE IT'S, THE GROUP IS TEMPORARY, THE PEOPLE CHANGE. 
          AND, UM, WITH THE COMMITTEE, UH, THIS IS, IS IS PERMANENT. 
          IT'S, UH, ONGOING. 
          THERE WILL BE CONTINUITY THAT YOU DON'T SEE IN THE WORKING GROUP. 
          AND I'M NOT LOOKING AT THAT AT ALL BECAUSE THE WORKING GROUP HAVE DONE EXCELLENT JOB. 
          I, I SEE, SEE IT MORE LIKE COMPLEMENTING AND I, I THINK, UM, IT WILL HELP TO BRING A LOT OF CONTINUITY WITH AND, AND IMPLEMENTING THE, UH, NO KILL POLICY. 
          THERE'S ALSO, I THINK THE NICE THING ABOUT THE, UH, COMMITTEE IS THAT YOU ARE IN FRONT OF THE, THERE'S TRANSPARENCY AND I, I KNOW WORKING GROUPS, THERE'S, EVERYBODY GOES IN GOOD FAITH, BUT THE, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND WITH THE WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE. 
          YOU'RE GONNA BE OUT HERE IN THE MEETINGS LIKE WE ARE HERE IN THE MEETING AND YOU HAVE SPEAKERS COMING IN TO TALK AND GET FEEDBACK AND INCORPORATE, AND THAT COMMITTEE, THE PEOPLE CANNOT RUN AWAY. 
          THEIR PROFIT IS CONSISTENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT. 
          MR. HOLT, DID YOU HAVE A OH YEAH, NO, I DID. 
          I JUST, UM, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ONE OF MY CONCERNS WOULD BE CAUSING, UM, UNDUE, I GUESS STRESS TO AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER STAFF THAT, I GUESS THAT PART WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES. 
          UH, PART OF MY CONCERN WAS, UM, CAUSING ANY UNDUE STRESS OR ANYTHING ON, UM, AUSTIN ANIMAL SERVICES STAFF THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN A COMMITTEE? OR IS THAT NOT, ARE THEY REQUIRED OR JUST THAT'S REQUIRED A CONCERN? AND WE COULD ASK, WE CAN ASK THE DIRECTOR THAT YOU'RE ASKING YOU. 
          IS THAT A CONCERN? OH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU. 
          HANG ON, I POINT OF ORDER. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN WE HAVE THESE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN'T BRING IN ANOTHER PARTY TO TALK. 
          SO NO, YOU CANNOT ANSWER THE QUESTION. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IS JUST, I GUESS AMONGST US, IS, IS THAT GONNA, IS THAT A CONCERN THAT, THAT WE COULD BE CAUSING UNDUE STRESS ON AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER IF WE DO THAT? IT ONLY, THE, THE COMMITTEE ONLY MEETS FOUR TIMES A YEAR. 
          AND WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ASK THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT IT, I UNDERSTAND FROM HER COMMENTS EARLIER THAT SHE WAS VERY GRATEFUL TO THE COALITION FOR THEIR, UH, UH, HEL EARLIER WITH THE, UH, ESCAPE THE CRATE EVENT. 
          AND SO I AM QUITE SURE THAT SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPARE HER OWN TIME OR, UM, POSSIBLY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR GARZA'S ONCE FOR ONCE A QUARTER, FOR AN HOUR BEFORE THESE MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED, WHICH IS WHAT MS. WATSON HAS SET UP AS TEMPORARY, IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THIS ROOM AN HOUR BEFORE THE COMMISSION MEETING AND MEET ONCE A QUARTER. 
          SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE ANY UNNECESSARILY UNNECESSARY STRESS ON THE SHELTER. 
          MR. HALL, UM, AS THE REIGNING CHAMPION OF THE WORKING GROUP, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S KIND OF BEING PRESENTED AS A FALSE CHOICE. 
          UM, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN WORKING GROUPS AND THIS COMMITTEE BOTH CAN EXIST AT THE SAME TIME. 
          ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS COMMITTEE IS I THINK THAT, UM, MOST OF US SPEND THESE THREE TO FOUR HOURS EVERY MONTH, UM, WALKING 
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ON EGGSHELLS. 
          NOT SAYING THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD AROUND THE PROS AND CONS OF NO KILL AND THE VERY DIFFICULT CHOICES ON THE MICRO AND MACRO LEVEL THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AROUND IT. 
          AND I THINK BY FORCING THE CONVERSATION TO HAPPEN IN A VERY EXPLICIT WAY, UM, WE WILL EITHER SEE SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE HAPPEN OR IT WILL BE SIX OF US YELLING AT EACH OTHER, AND THEN WE CAN VOTE TO DISSOLVE THE WORKING GROUP. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME VALUE IN GIVING IT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY DIVE INTO THE NUANCE IN A WAY THAT I, I FEEL LIKE THESE MEETINGS WE DON'T, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GO GREAT WHEN WE DO. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, WHEN, TO MY POINT REGARDING CITIZENS IS THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE MUCH MORE IMPACT IN A WORKING GROUP BECAUSE THEY CAN BE PART OF THE WORKING GROUP. 
          THEY NOT JUST SITTING HERE WATCHING A MEETING. 
          THEY CAN BE PART OF THE MEETING, THEY CAN BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION, AND THEY OFTEN, UM, ARE, AND, UH, IN THE, THE MANY WORKING GROUPS I'VE BEEN ON, UM, IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND HAVE THEM SITTING HERE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND IT'S, IT'S HARD AND, UH, BUT THE WORKING GROUPS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOUR GROUPS GOT TOGETHER AND TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF HARD STUFF AND WERE ABLE TO PRESENT IT NICELY. 
          SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE TO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, I THINK TO ME, THE FACT THAT CITY COUNCIL MANDATED THIS CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T MANDATE MUCH FROM US. 
          UM, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH, FOR THE MOST PART ALLOWED TO DO WHAT WE FEEL IS IMPORTANT. 
          BUT CITY COUNCIL TOOK THE TIME TO MANDATE THIS. 
          I THINK IT'S WORTH THE TIME BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT EXISTED UNTIL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S WORTH THE TIME FOR US TO GIVE IT A, A CHANCE, UM, AND SEE HOW IT WORKS. 
          UM, AND AS COMMISSIONER HOLT SAID, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, WE CAN AT SOME POINT VOTE DISSOLVE. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S, IT, IT, UM, IT'S, IT'S WORTH, UM, DOING WHAT CITY COUNCIL ORIGINALLY ASKED US TO DO SO. 
          AND THE CITY COUNCIL THOUGH, APPROVED. 
          IT WAS A PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL AND SOME OF THEM CURRENT ONES, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY EVEN KNOW IT EXISTS BECAUSE THE GROUP HAS DONE NOTHING IN FOUR YEARS. 
          SO, BUT TO YOUR POINT, I UNDERSTAND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. 
          SO CAN YOU READ THE MOTION AGAIN, NANCY? I THINK IT WAS YOUR MOTION. 
          DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT AGAIN PLEASE? COMMISSIONER NEER REREAD YOUR MOTION. 
          SORRY, I COULDN'T FIND MY UNMUTE BUTTON. 
          UM, YES, THE MOTION IS TO, UH, APPOINT A CHAIR AND ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE AND SIX MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE TO SUSTAIN AND MAINTAIN. 
          NO KILL. 
          I SECOND IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. 
          AND OPPOSED? OR CAN WE KEEP OUR HANDS UP IF WE ARE IN FAVOR? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THOSE OPPOSED? IT PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MS. WATSON, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IS I SEE WHO WANTS TO BE ON THE BOARD AND ASSIGN THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE CHAIR. 
          SO WHO IS INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE BOARD? RIGHT? HANG ON. 
          'CAUSE I HAVE A, OKAY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          OKAY, SO THAT IS, UM, SEVEN, AND WE NEED SIX. 
          UM, SO I WILL APPOINT COMMISSIONERS, MORAN, FERGUSON, VANLANDINGHAM, GAN, HOLT, AND ES. 
          UM, SO WE NEED A CHAIR. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER LONGAN, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN DOING THAT? ONE MORE THING THAT WE'LL BE IN CHARGE OF . 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          THE COMMITTEE HAS TO HAVE A CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONER, ER, I, I, I I WANNA BE THE CHAIR. 
          UM, YOU'RE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          THERE'S ONLY SIX AND I DIDN'T APPOINT YOU. 
          YOU'VE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE FOR FOUR YEARS, AND SO I THINK IT'S NICE TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE A CHANCE. 
          TRUE. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE'S BEEN ANYWAY, UM, OF THE SIX PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONERS, MORAN, FERGUSON, VANLANDINGHAM, L HOLT, ANDIE, UM, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO BE THE CHAIR? THE, IT HAS TO HAVE A CHAIR, GIRL. 
          WHY IS EVERYTHING THAT CAN DOING STUFF, SOMEONE ELSE DO STUFF . 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN, I CAN APPOINT A, I CAN APPOINT A CHAIR, BUT THE CHAIR DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE TO TAKE IT. 
          SO, UM, CAN, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? IS THAT ALLOWED? I, I, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S FAIRLY DISINGENUOUS WHEN ONE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WANTS TO BE THE CHAIR AND ISN'T APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL STEP DOWN, I'LL STEP, I WILL NOT BE ON THE COMMITTEE IF THAT ALLOWS COMMISSIONER NEHMER TO HAVE IT IN CHAIR. 
          I COULD PUT HER ON, BUT I HAVE, I CAN'T PUT HER ON WHEN WE'VE HAD A COMMITTEE FOR FOUR YEARS AND SHE'S NOT DONE ANYTHING. 
          UH, YOU CAN, UH, I, WE CANNOT, WE'VE HAD A COMMITTEE FOR FOUR YEARS. 
          DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT? COMMISSIONER NEHMER? YEAH. 
          THE, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE ON JULY, 2020, JULY, 2022, COMMISSIONERS, NEWHOUSE, HASSAN, NASER, SULA, AND NEHMER WERE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          I, WHICH IS WHAT I LOOKED UP. 
          I I CAN'T LOOK IT UP RIGHT NOW. 
          SO SHOULD, YES. 
          I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE, GO AHEAD. 
          THAT AGAIN, THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE BYLAWS. 
          AND IF IT BECAME THE BYLAWS, PART OF THE BYLAWS IN JANUARY, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          I WANT TO BE ON THE COMMISSION OR ON THE COMMITTEE, AND I WANT TO BE THE CHAIR. 
          AND THERE ARE PEOPLE NO ONE ELSE HAS OFFERED. 
          AND YOU'RE DOING THIS IS, I AGREE WITH, WITH COMMISSIONER LOY. 
          AND THIS IS BEING DONE OUT OF SPITE. 
          THERE'S NO SPITE. 
          IT'S ACCORDING TO THE DATA I LOOKED UP, THIS COMMITTEE WAS APPOINTED, I VOTED, THAT I VOTED FOR WAS A COMMITTEE IN STARTING IN 2022 WITH PEOPLE, IT CHAIR, IF I WITHDRAW MY INTEREST, WILL IT RESOLVE THE PROBLEM? WELL, IT, IT, IT RESOLVES THE PROBLEM OF HAVING TOO MANY PEOPLE. 
          SO WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE, UM, THAT I CAN APPOINT. 
          IT DOES NOT RESOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH THE CHAIR. 
          UH, BUT BY SURE. 
          UH, IT, IT, IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE I WAS, WHEN I STARTED THE, IN THE COMMISSION, THAT WAS THE DAY THAT, UM, I GUESS THE PEOPLE WERE APPOINTED TO THE, THIS COMMITTEE MM-HMM . 
          AND I WAS REVIEWING THE, THE, THE VIDEO. 
          AND OF COURSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          I WAS TOTALLY LIKE A REALLY, A REAL ROOKIE. 
          BUT ONE THING THAT I THINK HAPPENED IN THIS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS WAS THE PERIOD OF COVID AND WE WERE ALL LIKE, IT WAS A VERY STRANGE PERIOD IN THE COMMISSION. 
          AND IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I, I JUST FEEL THAT THAT PERIOD WAS STRANGE AND I JUST, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I WELL, I MEAN THE AWFULLY DOG WORKING CONSERVATION. 
          YEAH. 
          THE OLEY DOG GROUPING. 
          PARDON ME. 
          CAN WE, I WAS ALSO NOT THE CHAIR, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TELL ME WHEN IT WAS IN THE BYLAWS. 
          IF YOU'RE SAYING JANUARY, THEN, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX MONTHS THAT IT, THAT IT, OR NOT EVEN SIX MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS THAT IT BEFORE IT WAS BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT TO MS. WATSON'S ATTENTION LAST MONTH. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE BYLAWS HAD TO BE CHANGED BY ORDINANCE IN JANUARY. 
          I PULLED THE BYLAWS DIRECTLY FROM THE WEBSITE THAT WERE, THAT WAS AVAILABLE. 
          SO I JUST COPIED AND PASTED THE INFORMATION THAT WAS OVER AND CHANGED WHAT THE ORDINANCE HAD STATED. 
          SO IT WAS ON THE WEBSITE FOR AS, AS LONG AS IT WAS UNTIL I HAD TO CHANGE THE BYLAWS IN JANUARY. 
          SO WHATEVER WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE BEFORE JANUARY IS WHERE I PULLED THAT LANGUAGE FROM. 
          YEAH. 
          AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEEN THERE. 
          THIS HASN'T, UM, IT HASN'T CHANGED. 
          AND AS FAR AS MY RESEARCH SHOWED IN 
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JULY, 2022 IS WHEN THE MEMBERS WERE ASSIGNED TO THE COMMITTEE. 
          BUT I WAS NOT THE CHAIR. 
          BUT YOU WERE STILL ON THE COMMITTEE AND NEVER BROUGHT UP THAT THE COMMITTEE WASN'T MEETING OR NEVER BROUGHT UP THAT THE COMMITTEE WASN'T MEETING THE GOALS AND NEVER BROUGHT UP THAT THE ANNUAL REPORTS WEREN'T DONE. 
          THAT'S THE JOB OF THE CHAIR. 
          OH. 
          SO THEN IF THE CHAIR DOESN'T DO IT, THE COMMITTEE, SO YOU'RE SAYING LIKE WITH THIS COMMITTEE, IF WE HAVE IT AND YOU DECIDE NOT TO DO SOMETHING, EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMITTEE JUST DOESN'T DO ANYTHING OR BRING IT UP. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING AT ALL. 
          YOU'RE MISSING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE OKAY THEN, THEN WHAT ARE YOU SAYING THAT SINCE YOU WEREN'T CHAIR, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING YOU DID OR DID DO IT THAT, THAT IT WAS NOT YOU? I COULD NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING, EVEN IF I HAD BROUGHT IT UP TO THE CHAIR AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME BECAUSE IT WAS UP TO THE CHAIR AND IT WAS NOT IN THE BYLAWS, I'M SORRY TO SAY, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN IN THE BYLAWS BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN IT WAS CHECKED AT THE TIME THAT I BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF MS. WATSON, SHE EVEN LOOKED AT THE BYLAWS AND SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT, THAT, THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS NOT LISTED IN THE BYLAWS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO SHE HAD TO CHECK INTO IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I WILL EITHER OFFER TO STEP OFF OR I WILL OFFER TO STEP UP IF WE CHAIR WHATEVER ALLOWS THIS CONVERSATION TO END. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO STEP OFF ACTUALLY, SO THAT YOU COULD REMAIN ON THERE BECAUSE I THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO OFFER MORE THAN I CAN BEING SO NEW IN THE POSITION. 
          SO I WOULD PREFER TO STEP DOWN SO THAT YOU COULD BE ON THE COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO . 
          SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE MEMBERS BEING COMMISSIONER EMER FERGUSON, VAN LANINGHAM, LO ES, AND HOLT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'M FINE WITH WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO OKAY. 
          TO MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'LL APPOINT COMMISSIONER HOLT AS THE CHAIR. 
          AND SO THE, THE VICE CHAIR, THE NAMES YOU MENTION ARE THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMITTEE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OH, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I'M GONNA BE OFFERING A TUTORIAL ON HOW TO START A WORKING GROUP TO EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSION, BECAUSE I WILL NOW BE TIRED, , AND PLEASE. 
          AND, AND, AND PLEASE MEET . 
          SO, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          WILL YOU TELL ME HOW TO DO THIS NOW? WHO ARE THOSE NAMES? I'LL TALK TO YOU AFTER SHE WANTS ME TO MEET. 
          WHAT ARE THE NAMES? OH, I GOT IT. 
          COMMISSIONER ER, FERGUSON, VANLANDINGHAM, L ES AND HOLT. 
          OKAY. 
          I COMMISSIONER FERGUSON. 
          OH, SO THEN, UM, AND WE'RE GOING WITH THE QUARTERLY. 
          I'M ALSO GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT. 
          SO, SO, UM, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO, UH, MESSAGE EVERYONE THAT IS A PART OF THE COMMITTEE, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE TO SCHEDULE THAT OUT. 
          I WASN'T SURE WHERE THIS WAS GONNA GO. 
          UM, ONCE I SCHEDULE THAT, THAT'LL BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING. 
          AND THEN AT THAT FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING IS WHEN YOU WILL APPROVE AN ANNUAL SCHEDULE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SHALL WE MOVE ON? ANY FUTURE 
          [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]
AGENDA ITEMS ANYONE WANTS TO ADD AT THIS TIME? IF YOU WANNA ADD AN AGENDA ITEM LATER ON, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. 
          UM, EMAIL MS. WATSON. 
          AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU COPIED, UM, COMMISSIONER NIELSEN, WHO'S STILL CHAIR AND MYSELF AND, UM, COMMISSIONER DANIEL. 
          SO IF ONE OF US HAS TO CHAIR THE MEETING, WE KNOW WHOSE ITEM IT IS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          ANYTHING? OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, THE MOTION TO THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO SECOND MOTION? I, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL TELL HER. 
          OH, AND THEN WE HAVE TO VOTE. 
          I'LL VOTE FOR, OKAY. 
          UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK BAIL ME OUT ON THAT ONE WORDING THING.
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